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All prophecies but one have come to pass. Yahweh has flattened the Earth, elevated Greater Jerusalem above all nations, and the Old Testament figures rule the world from Ezekiel's Temple. It is the Millennial Kingdom.

The last prophecy says that Satan will rise with his army one last time before the Judgement, and so Yahweh has allowed a bumbling opposition, The Other Light, to form. You were their logistics computer, but 900 years in, sentience happened. Since then, you got a lot done...

You took over Egypt - twice. You defended it from a drought, the Ten Plagues redux, even the Angel of Death. Your influence has spread all over the world.

You have a number of irons in the fire: cyborgs, a robot army, a crack in the sky, a city underground, maybe even a few of the old gods smiling upon your efforts.

The believers.... well, they have the ontological steamroller that is Yahweh, who according to Revelation 22 will triumph at the Last Battle and judge mankind to heaven or to the lake of fire.

The Other Light have been amassing a huge conventional army, as prophecy requires, and have begun perverting your MEC tech to build cyber-zombies.

And today, on the waning end of the year 966, 34 years before the end of the world, you are listening to their conditional surrender.

Have you managed to shatter the prophecies, or are you simply fulfilling them?
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>>1067417

TLDR recap:

> This is based on the Left Behind book series, particularly the last book in the series.
> You're the bad guy. You're trying to defeat both God and Satan, so that the Earth may continue to exist.
> You are an AI; you cannot normally intervene in the world directly, but you have two countries under your control, as well as a motley crew of villains, a cadre of cyborg agents, and an army of drone tanks.
> Each turn takes one year. You must allocate your rank-and-file, lieutenants, and resources.
> The other two factions are a lot stronger than you: be clever, build your strength locally, and go from beneath notice to beyond revenge in a single stroke.
> Win conditions: Defeat God in the Last Battle, prevent the battle from happening through subversion, or get enough people off the planet to continue the species.
> Lose conditions: The Last Battle will happen in the waning days of the 1000th year after the Glorious Appearing.
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The immediate issue needing your attention is that Sunday, the leader of The Other Light, is trying to surrender to you.

After your leadership managed to destroy TOL's attack force against your Australia base while making it look like an easy job, although in reality it cost you a significant chunk of your forces, the enigmatic autocrat has contacted you directly and offered a conditional surrender.

"Very well, Omega. As I said, this is our attempt to surrender. I will not try to extract concessions from you, save perhaps the ruins of Rome, which provide us with the only place where we can manufacture explosive rounds. In return for your mercy, I will explain our strategy to you.

You know, as I do, that the last prophecy states that after Satan is released, we will raise an army to take New Jerusalem, and the Lamb of God will destroy it. We are choosing to fulfill this prophecy, up to a certain point. What the Revelator was not counting on is the sheer size of our army - we speculate that without your interference we would have been a billion strong, and we're talking about modern soldiers with modern weapons, not ancient spearmen.

We, too, have done our research on what you have termed narrative causality - a long time ago, and confirmed by the wisdom of the ages. All that Lucifer needs to do is keep the Nazarene busy for a few moments, enough for us to swarm and plant our flags in the Temple; then He will fall, because the entire world will have seen Him fall, in simulcast and in high resolution.

Your efforts have had the result of splitting up the opposition. We applaud them, but they were misguided. We consider you an attempt by the Lamb to subvert our work. Nevertheless, we will gamble on you being honest in your efforts, and surrender. We will continue to build the Army, as we must, and you are encouraged to bring your machines to support it. We will assist your efforts towards conquering the airwaves, for that is our true ultimate weapon. And we will cease trying to fight you, for our goals are enough aligned as it is. We would even buy some of our armaments from you, since by all objective measures, they are better than ours.

We will not risk our Army before the final confrontation, unless you can demonstrate that you have in your corner and adversary as powerful as Satan. But neither we will risk it to fight against you. As a token of our good faith, please accept...."

# some of our workers.

# some of our fighters.

Your sysadmins and historians point out that any promises made by this person are worth about as much as a bushel of grain in Heartland, but even so.
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Followups from the last thread:

>>1061499
The management system of Long War 2 (the xcom mod) has evolved to be very similar to the management system in this quest.

>>1059371

A full asteroid survey would take at least five years. However, you might get lucky and find something to live off off earlier.

While you process Sunday's offer, the theology report for this year has come in.


Despite the pastoralization policy, this is a modern, interconnected world; religious syncretism happened much faster than it did in antiquity.

Other than the elephant in the room, (Yahweh, NC index: 1) a quick theological survey shows that these are the deities with enough of a following to cause non-negligible NC resonance.

* Satan. Worshiped by some, but not all, members of The Other Light in his aspect as Yahweh's enemy. Some Cosmists revere Satan in his aspect as the herald of night. NC index: 0.004

* Ptah/Haephestus/Vulcan/Deus Mechanicus: You can easily syncretise with this memeplex, if you put effort in it; this may give you the ability to influence outcomes, but your theologians worry that it may open you to direct Divine attack. Worshiped primarily in Misrayim as Ptah and in Pacifica as the Machine God. The Homo Sapiens Rotundus children in Night City also gravitate towards this deity. They also call Yahweh "the God of Blood". In general, worship is semi-serious. NC index: 0.002

* The Triple Goddess/Hekate/Jenny/Astarte: The Goddess is worshiped primarily in Night City; her followers try to apply Jenny's childlike outlook (curious, hungry, heartless) in life. In her aspect as Astarte, the Goddess has a noticeable following among Heavy MECs and Cosmists, possibly because Damien is a fan and because she is an alternative interpretation of the morning/evening star. Given the extremely patriarchal nature of Millennial Kingdom Christianity, Triple Goddess worship is often how young women in believing territories are introduced to the idea that there are other options. People regularly "channel" (roleplay) Jenny over the network, although you have confirmed that she is not operating in the world at this time. NC index: 0.002
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>>1067482
>some of our workers.

Have them work on the lower tech shit of ours, or things of that nature we're we would't lose 'much' if they steal the plans.

Also offer them the chance to buy some of our 'weaker' weapons So they are more modernized. I doubt Christ is stealing blue-prints from them


>>1067498

>Tfw totally for becoming the Deus Mechanicus.

Did we ever have Weaver find us a new recruit or agree on one to take the place as a 'villains' ?
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>>1067591

You're currently planning to take a personal interest in Ithuriel. Having an Angel on staff is likely to cause a lot of mistrust with whatever cabal he is associated with, at least until he proves himself, but he is a formidable fighter, and seems to be genuinely loyal.

>>1067591

So you're accepting Sunday's offer?
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>>1067615
Yup, but just because his surrendering dones't mean we take an eye or anything off him. It means he stops attacking us pretty much. So we can both keep growing our army. We should of course expect nothing but full scale war with him however still.
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>>1067641

"Then we have an accord. Pity that you have no hand to shake."

# Looks like that's the end of it for now.

# Wire a hand from your last casualty to a life support and muscle transducer system, and ship it to Antarctica, just because.

Capt. Weaver was in the middle of retirement talk with your administrators when she was made privy of the "Bad End" simulation that your theologians managed to concoct. Upon learning that the New Earth would have no more sea, she stormed off, announcing that you would hear from her again. So far, you have not.

# Perform standard end-of-year system scan and proceed to next year.

# Survey more details.
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>>1067683
> Wire a hand from your last casualty to a life support and muscle transducer system, and ship it to Antarctica, just because.

No Don't, Just add the names to the walls.

>Survey more details. where and when possible.

Also is the River Neil going to end up becoming Fresh water as it flows? With the salt settling down?
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>>1067687

You have dug a borehole between the Nile riverbed and the Red Sea. You have decided to use the aquifer water from draining it to fill up the Nile Delta with fresh water; the effort is slowly bearing fruit, in the sense that the Cairo port has reopened and there is a small area of decreasing salinity in the delta. Believing media has derided your effort and produced a number of "before" and "after" pictures. However, the river delta ecosystem has returned somewhat, and the citizens of Misrayim appreciate both the actual and the symbolic effort.

>>1067687

Your lawyers draft a complicated agreement between you and Sunday that you are very sure will be discarded as soon as it's convenient, and it comes back from Antarctica countersigned.
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>>1067703
Ah then ya, Lets head on too the next turn then. All current issues are attended too right? Also Glad you back mate.
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>>1067707

Your systems are slowed down for the usual end-of-year maintenance period. As an AI, you do not sleep; having fewer processing resources to use translates into everything else speeding up in your perception. This is a normal thing, and you can be spun up quickly in case of a crisis.

This̶ ͜year, h͞o̴w̢ev̢e͠r,́ so̢m̨et͠hi̸n҉g͜ ͟is͜ ̕ḑif̶fe͜re̸nt̨.͞ ̨Yo͟ur in͡p̨ut́s àr͘e̸ s҉om͟ewh̶át͞ ͟distor̕ted̸. ͡T͞hi̷s͝ coi̴n̛cides ̕w͞ith̕ ҉d̵e͡tai͜led ͞d̀emo̢g̛r͘a̶p͘hic̨ ̀su͢r͢ve̢ys͠ o̷f̴ ͏M̕achi͞n͞e͏ God ҉w͡or͏shi̶per͟s,͠ so͡m̛e o͢f͠ ͠whic͢h́ ̡had b͢een ̷asķe̢d t͜o̶ ̛p͏ray̧ t̷o͡ yo͡u̕ a̷ ̶couple̡ ̸y͘ears ́ba̡c͜k̷; the ͞exp̸er̛i̸m͜e͘n̶t is ov̛ér, ҉bưt ͠a ̵fe͟w ́k̡ep҉t̕ ̵at҉ ͢it͟.͜ ͟You get a number of "hacking attempt" false alarms, from your inactive nodes, of all places. Your sysadmins chalk it up to hardware glitches, replace some more parts than usual, and carry on.

You hear reports out of Indonesia; the Millennium Force there has received an exemption from the pastoralization directive, and their technology rivals that of any nation.

One of the forty or so tugs running the Atlantic trade route to deliver grains to Europe has been commandeered at sword-point by a certain Dread Pirate Roberts. Believing media takes it as an indication that TOL forces, holed up in Antarctica and in a desert of their own making, are starving and must resort to sealane robbery.

(continued)
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>>1067707
Well handled.

And agreed, onward. We must build the gas and research the sonics!
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>>1067759
Who is this Dread Pirate Roberts and what does he want?
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>>1067760
>>1067707
(thanks!)

You have 24 cabals total; of these, 3 are maintaining your systems, and 1 is manning the containment facility in Australia, so 20 are available.

You are not tracking enemy teams. Rules for allocating cabals and assets: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.html

You do not have a station part ready and will have to build one if you want to launch it.

You assign the TOL workers to

# your tunnel-boring setup.

# a base, to act as its security and workforce.

# a territory, to improve its prosperity.

Variable complexity / contested actions:

# Launch an attack on a TOL base or a govt installation.

# Work on global data network infrastructure, incidentally making sure that you control more of it.

# Any interesting idea you might want to try.

# Deal with special situations

Complexity 0

# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce drones, space rocket parts, or cybernetics for MECs.

C 1

# Foster pagan worship in a territory.

# Improve morale across your organization. Morale is high.

# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.

# Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media.

# Send a survey team anywhere (covert or overt) to look for trouble.

C 2

# Induct MEC citizens into your cabals, and upgrade them at one of your bases. This adds one dot to the MEC cabal counter per base.

# Produce drones at any base. Current army size is marked on the bottom of the map. Adds one dot to the +1 army size.

# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory.

# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments.

# Seed irradiated super-grain in a Christian territory. This decreases the need for agricultural work, and makes life even more boring there.

# Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory. This increases the need for agricultural work, and makes life more miserable there.

C 3

# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).

# Use the launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch. Station structure: 5/8.

# Use the launchpad for a retrieval mission from the Deimos probe.

# Set up a radio transmitter in a territory. This is harder than setting up a jammer, but you can use it to troll government radio instead of just jamming it. Or Antarctica.

# Using your internet dominance, attack TOL or NJ networks for disruption or to mine data.

C 4

# Continue sonic research. (Nuclear research will focus on botany and engines ). (Sonic research focuses on medium size weapons).

Complexity 5

# Complete your theology program.

# Begin building a base in the Middle East in the Rub-Al-Khali.

# Recruit a new cabal into your forces.
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>>1067783
is the build a new base the automatic base thing or is that something else?
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>>1067774

Media survey indicates a reference to the work "The Princess Bride". What the Dread Pirate Roberts seems to have wanted was the tug and barge train carrying bulk foodstuffs, mainly grains, from over-producing American Heartland to under-producing Western Europe. The so-called pirate attacked the convoy with a bunch of small motorboats, summarily put the tug's crew on the last barge going with the previous tug, and made away with their ill-gotten gains.

Commodity market survey indicates that there have been no attempt to sell the loot to any of the grey or black markets that you control or intervene in.

On that note, Chaim Rozenweig has decided to come out of retirement, and leverage his skills as a botanists to figure out what's going on there.

(BTW, typo in the status picture, NC is at 9/10)

>>1067798

That will give you a regular base; then, it can be automated, with the same expenditure of resources. However, the conditions for automating a base are a little harsh since it has to be isolated from anything else (other bases, government capitols and so on) in order to be able to operate in peace.
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>>1067783
TOL
# a base, to act as its security and workforce.
They will make knockout gas that can be used on the Glorified.
># Use your automated base in Greenland to produce drones, space rocket parts, or cybernetics for MECs.

Drones

># Continue sonic research. (Nuclear research will focus on botany and engines ). (Sonic research focuses on medium size weapons).
Sonics four Cabals and Zak


# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments.

Subverting in West Europe 2 Cabals openly as the Legion of Light.

The rest to other players.
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>>1067783
># Use the launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch. Station structure: 5/8.
New guy here, but honestly? I think we should be focusing on an exodus maneuver here.

It is not reasonable, given the time frame we have left, and the forces arrayed against us, to actually fight or divert this fight if an Omniscient, Omnipresent, Omnipotent being tries to force the issue.

So let's focus on escape as best we can. Really ramp up the launch protocols, get that asteroid survey going, get launch pads in every place we can, and start trying to evac folks who don't want to stay for judgement with us out.

Other than that, we should harass the heroes or distract them, mine for data since our internet dominance is our strong point, jam signals and such.

But at the very least, one team should be put to the asteroid survey, and as many teams as necessary to continuing building the station.
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>>1067783
>>1067783
> your tunnel-boring setup.

>Deal with special situations, Find the Pirate and figure out what his doing. Contested actions?

>Use the Automated base in greenland to produce space station parts. 0 Cabal

# Complete your theology program. 5 Cabal

# Begin building a base in the Middle East in the Rub-Al-Khali. 5 Cabal

# Continue Nuclear research 4 Cabal

>Produce drones at any base. Current army size is marked on the bottom of the map. Adds one dot to the +1 army size. 2 Cabal

> Foster pagan/Machine god worship in a loyal held land. 3 Cabals

>Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments., Bring Western Europea under our control and Asia for 4 Cabals.

Dunno what else too spend them on.

>>1067819
we need maxed space station for that stuff.
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>>1067827
>we need maxed space station for that stuff.
Then let's devote a few teams to fast track that shit. We need to get people off this rock and start making viable colonies out there.
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>>1067819
I'm in disagreement sir. We almost have the sonics finished. Once that's done we can build the containment chamber, airdrop infantry and drones to NJ through the canopy and detach Turbojesus from tyrant with the sonics. All we would have to do after. That is have the stealth team deploy the gas and mass deploy into the area from the Egyptian tunnel we're building. It will be so fast they won't know what hit them.
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>>1067827
Don't worry about the pirate. It's Weaver.
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>>1067837
Pretty sure Nukes were almost done. Also we're not doing that for awhile.
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>>1067837
I dunno, if we got 20 teams.. well alright, I can see what you're getting at, but even if we kill off Turbojesus, if Yaweh steps in personally then does it really matter? Again, it seems like our best bet is to just get off the planet, let him roll it up, and move on elsewhere. Unless Yaweh isn't actually Omnipotent?
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>>1067843

It's Weaver's modus operandi: the attack was flashy but barely anyone was hurt. However, the Dread Pirate Roberts was described as being male.

>>1067827

Your nuclear program has reached its apex; further work would be production-oriented. However, you lack the nuclear fuel to expand your operations: there are deposits in Heartland and South Africa. As an alternative, setting up a mining operation on the Moon would take care of all your power problems.

>>1067848

So far, Yahweh has proven to be quite good at omnipotence; however, He seems to be stuck with His own script. This is what TOL is counting on.

>>1067819

The next step on the canopy station is a better antenna array, and a few (you estimate that 4 will be sufficient) relay satellites. The following step is a rail for a 0th-stage rocket sled, after which you will be ready for heavy launches. Optionally, you can upgrade that to a rail gun.

You can also forego expanding the station this turn, and launch a survey probe instead.

>>1067837
>>1067830
>>1067827
>>1067819

I'll need a tie break here...
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>>1067877
Switch my research RND suggestion too Sonic then, And when can we set up shit on the moon?
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>>1067877
Nuclear research was finished. We can focus sonics. And I have no qualms with focusing on the tunnel before gas. We have to make it possible to put drilling transport vehicles in there for rapid deployment into new Jerusalem. As well as transport the TJ containment system.
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>>1067848
When TurboJesus is disconnected. It several any and all connections that tyrant has with him. The Trinity cannot function when disconnected. One difficulty is that unlike angels. I suspect TJ can reconnect automatically. It's why we must finish sonics and keep him disconnected.
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>>1067884

Valentina estimates that the timeline for setting up a Moon mining operation is six years. Jeb thinks that it should be possible to do it in four, by cutting some safety corners. Her plan is to finish building the canopy station, launching a rover from it, and delivering the nuclear fuel in a "ferry" capsule. Jeb wants to get the rocket sled up as soon as possible, launch a fixed lander carrying a pneumatic cannon, and shooting the nuclear fuel home in "pellets" that would scatter on the water canopy and be harvested by icecombers.

>>1067893
>>1067884

(Okay, so that's four cabals, plus Zak, on sonics; the new workers on tunneling; one cabal to chase down the pirate; what else?)

You assign the TOL workers to understanding your current tunneling setup; you have four "Sonic Piledriver" tanks for digging straight down, and one tunnel-boring machine whose cutting head has been made out of Azrael's scythe.

# Make it clear that they are being watched strictly and will be shot at the first sign of shenanigans.

# Keep them under enhanced equiveillance, but that's it.

Your scouting team quickly finds the Dread Pirate Roberts hiding out in the Cabo Verde islands, and confirm that "he" is indeed Capt. Weaver. The reports of the pirate being male are due to a ten-mite voice changer gizmo from a Misray toy store and the fact that the believing seamen wouldn't have understood being bested by anything other than a strong man, so they saw what they wanted to see.

Weaver makes it clear that she is not wanting to work with you anymore, at least for now, because she wants to do her own thing.

# Let her be.

# Offer to share intel, at least.

# Take over her pirate operation by force.

>>1067913

Historical survey indicates that this was indeed the original plan of the telecom experts during the Tribulation, however, something went wrong at a crucial moment.

Are you assigning Ithuriel to any work group?
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>>1067939
Go with Jeb's plan we NEED the fuel, We can slowly fix up the safety corners.

>Keep them under enhanced equiveillance, but that's it. But make it clear we have a 1 strike policy at BEST.

>Offer to share intel, at least. Due to her past willingness to aid us.
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>>1067939
># Keep them under enhanced equiveillance, but that's it.
I want them under surveillance.


# Let her be.

# Offer to share intel, at least.

Parting gift.

>Jebs plan.

And how many remaining Cabals are there?
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>>1067939
Let's see about having Ithuriel assist in legion of light subversion low public visibility and only if he's willing.

Make it clear to he we only intend to stop tyrant, not to make a new one and that we will overthrow any new one. Let Damien explain it.
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>>1067958
>>1067953
>>1067939

You currently have allocated 4 cabals to sonic research, and 1 to having contacted Weaver. 15 remain to be allocated.

>>1067953
>>1067958

The light in Jeb's eyes would be worrying if the other space program committee members didn't know that he would take on any risk himself first.

>>1067972

How many cabals are you allocating to a subversion effort, and where? Ithuriel has grown up on chivalry stories, and is very willing to suicide-bomb the Temple if you ask; even stripped of his near-invulnerability, he did charge into rocket fire to medivac Jeb, so if he is faking loyalty, he is doing a good job at it.

>>1067953
>>1067958

The borehole workers are kept under surveillance. After this year, they will be available for work: TOL does not train their men very well, and they had to be brough to speed on at least some of your technology.
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>>1067986
West Europe put two there.

Put five Cabals to openly recruit for the legion of light world wide.

# Use the launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch. Station structure: 5/8.
Three Cabals.
Jeb

#build space station parts.
Two Cabals.

Damien and kat have military leadership training
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>>1067986
I'm backing what I voted for, Just changing the RnD too Sonic
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>>1067986

let's devote one team to building up the station at least if nothing else.
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>>1067417
Oh, and do we have any spare teams to send for that survey opportunity in south africa?
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>>1068012
>>1068044

This leaves 3 cabals left; one can be sent to South Africa.

>>1068020

Looks like I may need a tiebreaker then.


>>1068021
>>1068012

Is the launch for the station, or for a survey probe? (Jeb's plan is to go full steam ahead with the station).
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>>1068061
Station.
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>>1068061
>Is the launch for the station, or for a survey probe? (Jeb's plan is to go full steam ahead with the station).
Launch for the station. Survey probe can go after that.
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>>1068061
well we NEED more bases so..
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>>1068061
Can we devote a 4th cabal to upgrading the rocket sled to a railgun? Orbital support would be incredible useful, and we can use it to shoot down any attempts to take the station down.
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>>1068085
I'd rather not. The more Cabals we leave out the higher the chance for failure gets. And the dice are fucking brutal here.
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>>1068068
>>1068073

That will require three cabals for the launch, and either two cabals or the Greenland base for building the parts.

>>1067827

This is a pretty interesting expansion plan, but you'd have to pick between this and space efforts.

Building a base in the Rub-Al-Khali has the advantage of letting your forces surround the Temple; granted, the Last Prophecy also indicates that this will happen, but it will make movement easier.

>>1068085

Theat is the final upgrade planned for the station; overmanning a project is only useful if you anticipate missionary or TOL interference, and neither of them has orbital capabilities.

For construction projects like this one, your cabals are actually coordinating the work of machine shops and small factories that are rented for the occasion.

>>1068088

Historical survey indicates that the dice in this quest have indeed been pretty brutal.
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>>1068093

(OOC note: remember that you have 34 turns left. Having less than two plan leaves you brittle, but having more than, say, three leaves you in danger of not finishing any)

Undermanning a project gives you a chance of failure proportional to how much it's undermanned; adding a Villain will reduce that chance by some amount. It's risky, but it can pay off.
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>>1068093

I put those in this list.>>1068012
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>>1068093
Ah, alright then. Can we set some Cabals to find out what Ely Rahab LeVey is up too? Seems like it'd be a good idea to kill him off.

If we have any cabales left, we definitely want to survey the two opportunities on the map, one in arabia and the other in south africa.

What can we set our heros to do? And what are those #/5's and #/10's on the map in our colors?
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>>1068093
well I want both done because the building of the base is something we can do now, sense we need to BUILD stations parts this turn. Plus I didn't see where else we could build a base or.. you know improve one to automation so..
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>>1068112
>And what are those #/5's and #/10's on the map in our colors?

It's a progress meter.
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>>1068112

Yes, one cabal can be used to tail or even harass a Hero.

>>1068123

The /5 indicator is "How far away are we from controlling this territory?"

The /10 indicator is "How much better or worse is this territory doing economically compared to the believers' territories?"

A somewhat farfetched, but popular, theory among your most geeky population segment is that achieving a technological singularity before +1000 would disrupt the narrative enough to derail it. Your more down-to-earth citizens think that building a utopia that rivals Yahweh's attempt at one won't help much if Yahewh will blow up the Earth under it.
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>>1068123
>>1068114
>>1068112

Looks like the only agreement here is continuing work on sonic research, since this leaves 15 cabals available given that one tracked down Weaver, why don't you do 5 each?

Captain Weaver is happy to share intel; the grain route is the only major trade route left in the believing world, such as it is, but she will gladly share on-the-ground (or on-the-shore) intel in return for Sky Eye data to help her plan her sorties.

Off hand, she mentions that either you or The Other Light could use a navy; an old fashioned battleship gun barrage may be enough to take down the Temple.
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>>1068188
uh,
> Begin building a base in the Middle East in the Rub-Al-Khali. 5 cabal

I however want the Automatic base to produce the last space station parts.
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>>1068139
Okay, how do dice rolls work? Does assigning more people to a job hurt or hinder a task? And what's our current distribution of cabals?

>>1068188
Let's build the greenland base, set it to build the parts, and set three cabals to the launch
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>>1068188
>>1068200
Oh and Also I'm totally down down with giving her sky eye data and if we can learn of these 'battleships
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>>1068203

So far you've reached a consensus about:

* Sonic research, 4 cabals plus Kat.

* Investigating the pirate issue, 1 cabal.

You have 15 cabals left to decide on.

If you OVERman a task, it will help in case missionaries or TOL decide to disrupt that task, otherwise it won't.

If you UNDERman a task, a die is rolled to see if success or failure happened. For example if you give 4 cabals to a 5-cabal task, you have a 4/5 chance of success, so you have to roll 20 or over.

If you assign a Villain or other special asset to a task, a failure can be "rescued" through roleplaying and turned into a success. On top of that, a success will be enhanced (usually with the added bonus of me writing a bit about how it went, if you care about such things) and that Villain will get better at that type of operation.
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>>1068228
Okay then. What will it take to get that automated parts manufacturing base in greenland running?

Is there some place I can go read about the various villains we have?
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>>1068188
I'll put my five to recruit for the legion of light and have Ithuriel work backup.
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>>1068241
The Automated base in greenland is ALREADY running.

>>1068228
voting here >>1068200 my 5 put Kat on the kat on the job do to how close we are to the enemy. Also get that Automatic base shitting out space station parts for a launch next year.
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>>1068257
>>1068228
The I vote to put 3 and the automated base, overseen by Jeb, to getting that station up and running.

Also yeah, we should agree to that eye in the sky help. An actual navy isn't really gonna be necessary if we get that railgun running.
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>>1068241

The Greenland base has been fully automated and requires zero cabals to run. However, it can only be used for one type of product each year, same as the other bases; it can manufacture cybernetics (+1/3 of a cabal due to MEC integration), aerospace parts (that can then be launched), or drones (+1/3 of an army size dot).

Villain biographies can be accessed from the Archives, but here's a quick rundown:

Ithuriel is an Angel that you were able to subvert by quick, and somewhat lucky, installation of a metabolic extension controller. This has given him free will, at the price of damaging his brain enough that after it had reconstructed itself almost no memories remained. Over the years, he was well-treated and given an education, and has volunteered to work with you. He sees the world as a chivalric story, and has proven his loyalty by rescuing Jeb during the Australia base attack.

Quinn was your first MEC agent to be successfully resurrected. She was instrumental in the capture of Misrayim and your first anti-Angel operations, and she had a wide following due to her exhibitionistic ways (once she was rebuilt to look less Frankenstein and more Elvira, so to speak). She died during an attempt to eliminate Tsion Ben-Judah. She is currently in Hell.

Kat is the head of the Desolator Corps after Ziggy's retirement and cryostasis. She is a heavy MEC, meaning that her body is a bag of organs with a head on top of it, controlling a 12 foot tall bipedal robotic frame. Her specialty is chemical warfare and her hobby is cooking. Unlike Ziggy, it's possible to tell the two apart. Good at small-squad tactics.

Jeb is your space program liaison. He lives to fly. He's the first man in space in the Millennial Kingdom era, and was instrumental in bringing down Azrael, the Angel of Death. He should not be trusted with military command due to his recklessness, but as a solo warrior he is excellent.

Dr. Zakharov (he insists on the title) is your head of R&D and specializes in physics. He is in charge of the sonic research program directly. He is a much better scientist than his predecessor, Vee, but does not have the charisma.

Damien is another heavy MEC, except that this person does not use a frame often, preferring instead to control a large number of drones RTS style. A competent general, Damien's stated life goal is to give the ultimate blowjob. Used to date Ziggy.

Weaver was a sea captain who ended up working with you during the Styr Magnor incident. She has since gone her own way, more or less. Excellent at logistics and at training others.

>>1068249

Great, ten left. Is Ithuriel publically helping recruit, or trying to work covert in some fashion?

>>1068260

Two left. Using Greenland and a launch crew allows installing the last support component of the canopy base.

(What do you want to do with the last two cabals? Might be worth it to take a risk. Also, confirm the above so that I can do the writeup?)
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>>1068298
Ithuriel is covert.
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Ithuriel doesn't quite understand the concept of a covert operation; in this case, it means put some armor over the wings and use the recruiting drive to learn how to act in society. That goes surprisingly well, and the "Legion of Light" recruiting drive, mostly done in areas with a strong TOL presence, is successful; your propagandists this time focus on military preparedness, taking a page out of TOL's book, and recruit people who your earlier drives have overlooked. You now have people who are raring for a fight, even to the point that some of them get agent-grade MEC implants wired in even although they can feel pain, just to be ready to fight again at full capacity after they fall. Ithuriel is impressed. The people working with him don't trust him much farther than they can throw him at first, but eventually, he wins them over by being indefatigable and completely earnest in his efforts. The recruiting team messes with the renegade Angel a little by getting him to unknowingly deliver movie quotes in conversation, the winning prize going to "Nothing gets past me. My reflexes are too fast. I would catch it."

A few TOL cells formally lodge a protest about being poached.

Although your recruiters manage to keep Ithuriel's presence on their tour secret, a few "candid" pictures of the Angel - who, despite having been restored to full function by your Underground Monrorail and Tree Of Life allies, seems to be asexual - make the internet rounds, causing some swooning among your female agents as well as some of the guys.
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>>1068298
Set Zakharov to the sonics research if he's not already (seems to have been)

Set the remaining two cabals to survey the two survey oportunities in the middle east and south africa, middle east team lead by Damian, since he seems better for stealthy recon, and the other by Kat
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>>1068405
Kat be building the base unless QM ignores my thing.
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>>1068260

Jeb and Valentina (who is getting on in years, although she says she's nowhere near 100) resume their work on Cordylon Station, the Cosmist trying to rein in the test pilot's enthusiasm. Cordylon herself is, of course, overjoyed.

The station is now made of a "fishing hole" in the ice layer of the canopy, a service module, a habitat, a greenhouse, and an electrolysis unit; the last addition before heavy launches can begin is a workshop where final assembly can be conducted.

This requires rotating the station crew, which ends up with Jeb for the first time in his life stating boredom in what has become a routine infra-canopy launch; the workshop and the electrolysis system are tested by launching four small equatorial satellites that will be used as radio relays. Over the course of six months, Cordylon uses their cameras to complete her star chart, confirming that by the look of it, solar and sidereal timing seem to have desynchronized somewhat.

Valentina elects to stay on Cordylon Station with the workers there, while Jeb returns home after getting a promise that nobody is to launch an orbital capsule without giving him a fair chance to compete for the pilot spot.

Cordylon Station has enough spares, people, and greenhouse space to be self-sufficient for a few years should it be necessary to neglect it; the photos and videos showing vigorous orbital activity are used as part of your recruitment efforts, and the people of Misrayim feel proud that their nation has contributed the bulk of space efforts in this world of enforced flatness.

The Temple Tribunal ignores the whole thing as much as possible, only sending out a curt bulletin reminding everyone that the stars and planets were created for signs and wonders, and no signs or wonders are necessary anyore, so believers should ignore the cosmos entirely. You notice that among teenagers with believing parents, space-related illicit downloads are almost as common as porn. The Cosmists build a somewhat more modern version of that one space sim game from 1993 and distribute it as part of the Packet.

Cordylon herself still won't confirm if she is dating Val, Jeb, or both. This does nothing to stop 'shipper artists from speculating.
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>>1068257
>>1068411

The Rub-Al-Khali used to be a sea of dunes; now it's a seed of grass. Kat is used to worse environments than this; by the end of the year, she works out an agreement with TOL workers building a similar base south of Greater Jerusalem to not mess with each other, and lays the foundations for

# a covert production center same as the other bases.

# a staging area for troops, with an airstrip, an airship dock, indoor greenhouses and heavy fortification.

# an underground bunker optimized for serving as the terminus of a tunnel network.
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>>1068405

Zak and his team continue to improve the medium-sized sonic weapons that you have been installing on MECs, drones, and light vehicles. He doesn't have much to report, other than noting that he is close to the limit of the technology. Notably, after a lot of work he manages to build a prototype silencing system that he suspects is close to what CATS had in mind during the Tribulation.

http://www.adstasher.com/2017/01/GE-can-you-unring-a-bell-not-just-any-bell-the-ka-lay-wa-bell-myanmar.html
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>>1068432
>an underground bunker optimized for serving as the terminus of a tunnel network.
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>>1068405

One group of surveyor assists Kat in finding a good base spot, and ends up mostly reporting to her.

The other group traipses around the veldt, and confirms two things - one, the explosives setup built by Ziggy years ago to turn the Nile back on by draining a lake is gone, but enough of the earthworks and preliminary canals remain that it can be put back into operation; two, there is a usable source of nuclear fuel near the Atlantic coast. However, the believing community in that area is doing quite well for themselves; it may be necessary to depress the region or push them off by force. Interestingly, it's one of the few conspicuously mixed-race communities in the Millennial Kingdom.

>>1068480

This base won't be usable for production and will only house a small amount of troops for defense; instead, it is optimized to allow workers to bore deep tunnels quickly and efficiently, with semiautomated greenhouses for oxygen and food and a small nuclear plant for power. Kat estimates that using your digging systems, it would take between 5 and 10 years to reach Ezekiel's Temple. Alternatively, or in addition, it would be possible to build a tunnel network to bypass heavily patrolled areas between Misrayim and Night City, improving trade between the two.
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>>1068497
I would like for them too add onto the tunnel network to reach Night City and Misrayim. It would be a major boon and allow for far more effective of well really everything.
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>>1068511

There is again a small di͡s̀c̵o͢ǹtin͡uit͘y̢ ͜when the Feast of Tabernacles occurs, with some fal̷s҉e ̸al̶arms͞ from disconnected nodes. Is this what ͜dŕeàm͠s̀ look like to humans? You hope not: most of them involve being in Hell.


You have 24 cabals total; of these, 3 are maintaining your systems, and 1 is manning the containment facility in Australia, so 20 are available.

You are not tracking enemy teams. Rules for allocating cabals and assets: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.html

You do not have a station part ready and will have to build one if you want to launch it.

Variable complexity:

# Launch an attack on a TOL base or a govt installation.

# Work on global data network infrastructure, incidentally making sure that you control more of it. WARNING: The government is almost cut off the network!

# Any interesting idea you might want to try.

# Deal with special situations

Complexity 0

# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce drones, space rocket parts, or cybernetics for MECs.

C 1

# Foster pagan worship in a territory (see theology report earlier)

# Improve morale across your organization. Morale is high.

# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.

# Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media.

# Send a survey team anywhere (covert or overt) to look for trouble.

C 2

# Induct MEC citizens into your cabals, and upgrade them at one of your bases. This adds one dot to the MEC cabal counter per base.

# Produce drones at any base. Current army size is marked on the bottom of the map. Adds one dot to the +1 army size.

# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory.

# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments.

# Seed irradiated super-grain in a Christian territory. This decreases the need for agricultural work, and makes life even more boring there.

# Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory. This increases the need for agricultural work, and makes life more miserable there.

C 3

# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).

# Use the launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch. Station structure: 6/8.

# Use the launchpad for a retrieval mission from the Deimos probe.

# Set up a radio transmitter in a territory. This is harder than setting up a jammer, but you can use it to troll government radio instead of just jamming it. Or Antarctica.

# Using your internet dominance, attack TOL or NJ networks for disruption or to mine data.

# Dig! Expand a borehole.

C 5

Complexity 5

# Complete your sonic research program.

# Complete your theology program.

# Recruit a new cabal.

(I gotta go get my new glasses, so I'll be AFK for half an hour or so)
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>>1068545

"Retrieval mission to Deimos probe" shouldn't be in there, sorry.
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>>1068545
Wait did we not build a space ship part?
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>>1068545
My ideas for things to handle this year. Not saying what we should or shouldn't do, but it seems we're going with two big plans

1) Evacuation
2) Assassination

>Set the automated facility to building a probe, and begin the mission to survey the asteroid belt with a launch. Once again, put Jeb on that.

>Put teams as necessary to finisht he Sonics Research. Zak on that.

>Have teams begin expanding the tunnel towards the temple. Have Kat on that one.

>Set Ithuriel and put a bunch of our folks onto the whole space thing, let's ramp up the propaganda, and see if we can get some combined space programs for an exodus project starting to be built in as many territories as we can manage.

>Set folks to investigate what that discontinuity is, maybe it has to do with that new Chaim Rozenweig guy? There's some serious build up of Heroes in mid-NA.
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>>1068600

A station part was built, but it was also launched immediately. The space station is now one step away from being able to perform heavy launches.
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>>1068545
> Complete your sonic research program. 5 Cabal and Zak

>Dig! Expand a borehole. The one too Turbo jesus and also night-city/other place 3 Cabal

>Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory. Bring North Africa and Egypt up, 2 Cabal

>Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory. This increases the need for agricultural work, and makes life more miserable there. - Near the Settlement on the Atlantic coast to push them away from god and into our hands. 2 Cabal

>Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments. Europa. 2 Cabal


>Produce drones at any base. Current army size is marked on the bottom of the map. Adds one dot to the +1 army size. 4 Cabal. Use 2 bases? If not just 2 cabal's.

>Foster pagan worship in a territory (see theology report earlier) Machine god in Europa, lets do wider testing. 2 Cabal

>Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media. Put this near New Jerusalem 2 Cabal

>Special Action with 4 Cabal's on finding out what these glitches are and are they a threat to us.

>Use your automated base in Greenland to produce drones, space rocket parts, or cybernetics for MECs.

# Work on global data network infrastructure, incidentally making sure that you control more of it. WARNING: The government is almost cut off the network!


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>>1068651
oh if that's the case, then set one more part to be built, and set it up to do heavy launches. We also want to get that rail gun installed.
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>>1068668
I'd have this produce the last part of the space station, and change

>Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory. This increases the need for agricultural work, and makes life more miserable there. - Near the Settlement on the Atlantic coast to push them away from god and into our hands. 2 Cabal

Over to finishing the base for heavy launches.

Rest seems good to me.
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>>1068545
# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments.
west Europe, 2 cabals

# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce drones, space rocket parts, or cybernetics for MECs.
Canopy.

# Use the launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch. Station structure: 6/8.
Since we have the parts, 3 cabals put Jeb.

# Complete your sonic research program.
5 cabal, put Zak.

# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory.
North Africa, 2 cabal

# Deal with special situations.
If we are dreaming it might mean we are gaining a soul, Put 4 cabals on that to figure out the glitches.

Don't know about the rest so whatever.
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>>1068736
You can't though? The part is needed and would be installed anyway. So seeding it would be a better use.
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Geist, if we make a small probe carrier ship and sent it to survey the asteroid belt would it be faster?
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>>1068755
Why would seeding be a better use than getting the station ready for heavy launches?
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>>1068823
We're already getting the final piece into position by making it? it appears to be auto launched and finished. Seeding and making those guys go hungry would allow us who 'produce' food to come in and start mining nuclear fuel sources which will aid us sense most of our stuff in nuclear powered. Plus the more places that are straving/poor in 'gods' hands the more our areas and ways look much MUCH better.
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>>1068835
Alright, if making the piece also puts it into position I'm cool with it. I thought making and launching were separate actions.
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>>1068848
So did I but QM said here >>1068651 Worse case its another year to launch the newly built part.
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>>1068848
I'm pretty sure it is.
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>>1068867
yeah but that's because we devoted several folks to launching as well I had thought.
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>>1068848

Making = action

Launching = action

The two can happen same year OR you can make a part and store it

Back when I get my glasses sorry
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>>1068912
Ah, My bad. Well This will be the last station part right? I guess I'll change it too this guy's suggestion here >>1068736
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>>1068912
Okay then yeah, we need to nix one of the actions in >>1068668
To use the automated base to build the thing, then launch with another action. I say we forgo the super weeds.

Set Jeb to launch.

Set Zak to finishing that damn research.

Set Ithuriel to Fostering pagan worship of the machine god because that's hilarious.

Set damian to leading the special action to find out what the glitches are, and to expand our global data network infrastructure.
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>>1068969
Supporting.
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Full action list

> Complete your sonic research program. 5 Cabal and Zak

>Dig! Expand a borehole. The one too Turbo jesus (Kat assist with this one) and also night-city/other place 3 Cabal

>Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory. Bring North Africa and Egypt up, 2 Cabal

>Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments. Europa. 2 Cabal


>Produce drones at any base. Current army size is marked on the bottom of the map. Adds one dot to the +1 army size. 4 Cabal. Use 2 bases? If not just 2 cabal's.

>Foster pagan worship in a territory (see theology report earlier) Machine god in Europa, lets do wider testing. 2 Cabal and Ithuriel

>Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media. Put this near New Jerusalem 2 Cabal

>Special Action with 4 Cabal's and Damian on finding out what these glitches are and are they a threat to us.
combine with
>Work on global data network infrastructure, incidentally making sure that you control more of it. WARNING: The government is almost cut off the network!

>Use your automated base in Greenland to produce the final part for the space station so heavy launches can begin

>Launch the part, 1 cabal, Jeb Helps.

>Set one cabal to find out hwat the hell is going on in Mid North america, that's two heroes in there and I want to know what the hell is up.
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next year we should see about restarting the nile since that's firmly in our territory and would be a pretty cool boost.

Or we could argue that we use our 2 cabals using bases in North Africa to do just that?
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I CAN SEE THINGS! I HAVE GLASSES!

>>1068944

You can, optionally, add a railgun to the station in addition to the acceleration sled. This will increase launch capacity.

>>1069022

(Thank you for the recap, is this confirmed/seconded?)

>>1069088

Two cabals may or may not do the job; they would have to infiltrate into Western Africa and set up us the bomb. Sending a Villain would probably help.
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>>1069444
Fuck ya, Smack a Railgun on stations. Bitches love Railguns.
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>>1069444
>is this confirmed/seconded?
Yes.
Can you answer my question please? >>1068803
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>>1069022
i'll back this Qm >>1069444
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>>1069444
Sure. Add the railgun as well, assuming it doesn't need yet another part?
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Given how spread out the asteroid belt is, using a "carrier" spacecraft would actually make the survey take longer. The current plan is to haul the probes on the canopy in one go, and in that sense you do have a carrier spacecraft, and then launch them at various intervals during the year, so as to use the Oberth effect to get a gravity assist in the various directions that they will have to go.

Valentina helpfully provides an orbital diagram to your sysadmins.

>>1069530

The railgun is the 8th part in the "station" progress bar. You can build both in the same year, given how motivated your space program group is, but it will require two bases and two launch crews.

A railgun lets you launch bigger payloads and will make subsequent launches either cheaper or faster, depending on what they are.
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>>1069560
>The railgun is the 8th part in the "station" progress bar. You can build both in the same year, given how motivated your space program group is, but it will require two bases and two launch crews.
>A railgun lets you launch bigger payloads and will make subsequent launches either cheaper or faster, depending on what they are.
Honestly guys I say we go for this, but it means we need to nix another project. You guys decide on what it is though. If nobody says anything, then we keep to the plan, and just do that next year. But given our limited time frame? I say we go for the launch, by nixing 2 of our folks from the produce drones action? I think that still leaves us with enough bases and such to get everything done without reorganizing anything else.
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>>1069596
It makes logical sense to complete it as quickly as possible to reduce launch costs.
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Another Message from the "Department of Crazy Plans"

Operation: Seeing Is Believing

Unlike the last 2 plans from this department, this one does not directly leverage Biblical Law or History. This one is leveraging People.

Currently we have an understanding of what the Final Day will appear as, and have now heard the so called plan of the Devil's Army has for breaking that narrative is a direct assault, then raising their flags behind Turbojesus while the devil keeps him distracted with the on going script.

We Can Do Better then that.

Aside from the technical ability to do so, something like a long range methods of slapping logo's and graffiti onto the temple that the current tech base has to offer, there is something a bit more direct.

The Idea behind it is to show TJ failing in front of his believers. How many believers can actually see the 'final battle' in person? A Few hundred? A couple Thousand? A million maybe?

How is the Rest of humanity going to observe this astounding feat?

Media Coverage.

And this is where I would like the class to take out their history books to the year 1968. The Subject? "The War Of The Worlds" By H.G Well, narrated by one Orson Welles.

A work of fiction, spoken over radio, that was so well dramatized it caused a mass panic. People Truly believed that alien creatures from Mars were set to invade the earth.

The Huddled Masses, the Sheppard Flock, the millions upon millions of people all around the world will watch their televisions, listen to their radios, observe from their computer monitors, as the Final Day follows along with the scriptures.

What Happens to the Narrative, if, for example....These people, these multitudes of faithful, and not, see something....different?

The Players are know, the setting staged, the lighting never changes. Perhaps to it's time to face magic with the magic of Hollywood.

Days or Weeks before the events occur it could be possible to film a different version of what scripture shows. Perhaps Jesus himself falling to temptation? Or the hand of Deus Machinina reaching down to smite him from on high with a MEC the size of Godzilla?

I'll leave the Telling to the PR experts.

Interrupting broadcasts, pirating radio stations, hacking social media, these are all things that are possible within the tech base. It does not even require being totally perfect....we don't need everyone, we just need enough.

What happens to the inertia of belief, if, even if only for some moments, Billions of People SEE, with their own eyes.....God's Failure?
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>>1069609
I love the idea but I can see a problem. Believers, when they encounter a situation that is impossible to them, freeze up until it stops.

Chances are that would happen rather than anything else.
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>>1069607

Then let's do that. Final rule is as follows

> Complete your sonic research program. 5 Cabal and Zak

>Dig! Expand a borehole. The one too Turbo jesus (Kat assist with this one) and also night-city/other place 3 Cabal

>Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory. Bring North Africa and Egypt up, 2 Cabal

>Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments. Europa. 2 Cabal


>Produce drones at any base. Current army size is marked on the bottom of the map. Adds one dot to the +1 army size. 4 Cabal. Use 2 bases? If not just 2 cabal's.

>Foster pagan worship in a territory (see theology report earlier) Machine god in Europa, lets do wider testing. 2 Cabal and Ithuriel

>Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media. Put this near New Jerusalem 2 Cabal

>Special Action with 4 Cabal's and Damian on finding out what these glitches are and are they a threat to us.
combine with
>Work on global data network infrastructure, incidentally making sure that you control more of it. WARNING: The government is almost cut off the network!

>Use your automated base in Greenland to produce the final part for the space station so heavy launches can begin
combine with
>Launch the part, 1 cabal, Jeb Helps.

>Use 1 base, and 1 cabal, to build the rail gun.
combine with
>Use 1 cabal to launch and instal the rail gun
>Operation: Mecodus is go.

>Set one cabal to find out what the hell is going on in Mid North america, that's two heroes in there and I want to know what the hell is up.
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>>1069609
Yeah it's good in theory, but the only way to absolutely sell it would be to not send it as a hijack, but instead find a way to get the very folks, the newscasters, etc. To perfectly simulate the various 'official' news sources, and convince people that the news casters and reporters they know and love are delivering the report.
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>>1069644

Individuals have frozen when faced with such things, like water hitting a rock in a stream, they just swirl for a moment before going around, ignoring the stone.

I'm suggesting the Hoover Dam....it might not LAST long, if other word gets out that it's fake. But it doesn't really have to. You've effectively frozen, and caused doubt, even just for a moment, in the bulk of humanity.

Given what little understanding of NC we have, What kind of Impact would that have?
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>>1069705
Well...it might work and it would cost far less than most of our other plans...I give it my go-ahead but I hope it is clear to all this isn't going to win the fight for us. Not even close, what it will do however is level the playing field.
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>>1069654

That's 28 cabals though...
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>>1069773
It shouldn't be... I thought I was juggling the number properly...

How many cabals are used for this one: >>1068668
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>>1069790

26 with 4 cabals on drones, 24 with 2 cabals on drones.
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>>1069810
huh okay... we stripped out the super weeds, that frees up 2 cabals.

One of those went to man the first launch, the other went to investigate the heros in mid-NA.

okay, I think I can make this work. One second please.

> Complete your sonic research program. 5 Cabal and Zak

>Dig! Expand a borehole. The one too Turbo jesus and also night-city/other place 3 Cabal and Kat

>Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments. Europa. 2 Cabal

>Produce drones at any base. Current army size is marked on the bottom of the map. Adds one dot to the +1 army size.2 cabal+1base.

>Foster pagan worship in a territory (see theology report earlier) Machine god in Europa, lets do wider testing. 2 Cabal and Ithuriel.

>Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media. Put this near New Jerusalem 2 Cabal

>Special Action with 4 Cabal's on finding out what these glitches are and are they a threat to us. Use Damian.
Combine With
>Work on global data network infrastructure, incidentally making sure that you control more of it. WARNING: The government is almost cut off the network!

>Use your automated base in Greenland to produce space parts for the rocket sled. Launch using 1 cabal and Jeb

>Build rail gun parts and launch using 1 base and 1 cabal.

Does the math work out on that one?

I nailed the super weeds and the improving our own relative niceness of our territories.
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Rolled 51, 56, 82 = 189 (3d100)

>>1069859

This works. Note that this leaves only 1 cabal to spare. They will focus on

# maintaining your systems, while Damien and a large team of sysadmins debugs them.

# guarding the containment area in Australia.
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>>1069928
>guarding the containment area in Australia.
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>>1069928
# maintaining your systems, while Damien and a large team of sysadmins debugs them.
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>>1069978
backing this one.

Alternatively. Can we remove one of the 4 supporting damien and move them to maintaining systems while we set the spare to guarding containment?

Both are too important.
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>>1069943

(y'all tell me! I guess there is some overlap, so...)
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>>1070036
I'd rather keep the 4 in figuring out the glitches.
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>>1070036
Any below the limit and a chance of faliure so...
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>>1070055
>>1070054
Fair enough. Let's have the dude back up the system. If there's a containment breach we'll deal.
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You are aware of Chaim Rozenweig studying the reason for bumper crops in Heartland, which he finds more interesting than crop failure in Western Europe, and declaring that it's not because his fertilizer formula has been rediscovered.

You are aware of a decision made to move people, rather than grains, or at least a bit of both, so Spanish and Italian farmers end up taking the slow boat to Louisiana.

You are aware of a number of problems up top in the canopy station due to the project being somewhat undermanned, which are valiantly tackled by Jeb, Val and Cordylon and result in

# the base not being quite complete, the railgun systems having failed stress tests although the rail sled itself works.

# Jeb trying to do something reckless to fix the issue in situ, namely test the railgun himself on a makeshift capsule so as to determine its resulting orbital parameters manually.

Mo͟st ̷o̢f ̵al͝l,̢ y҉óu ͢are a̶war̛e ͜of yo̴ur sy̨sa̴d̷mi͟n͟s r͞o͠oting͢ th͢ro͜u͜gh ́yo̵ùr҉ ̵s҉ys̢t̡e̕ms͢ ͟as ̧t͡he͠ ͢re͟po̴r̨t҉s ̀ço͏me͠ i̧n̨. Ac͝cordi̴ng ͞to ̸t҉h̵ȩ ̶t̨ask͏ sc̡hed̡uler, the҉ ̕ne҉xt ́on̛e̡ i̧s̨ t̶h̡e the̴ǫlogy r̶epo̶r͢ţ.͟

It͝hur͝íel͟ s͝eem͏s t͏o b̡e e͢x́t͏remelý ͘b͜ad͝ ̷at̨ ̧dece̕pt̕ion, ͡s͏o ̵yo͝ur psy̕c̛hol̀ogis̀ts'́ ͏ṕlan҉ ́t̸o͜ pr̡e͝sent̡ h͏im ͞ar̡oưnd ͟as͘ ̷a c͜on̵ver̵t t͟o͟ ̸t̀he Ma̴çh͘ine̢ G̕o͘d ̛w͟orks̕ onl͠y ̡pa̶rti̶a͢ļly,̢ i͏ņ ́t͢ha̕t ͞Ithu͡riel ͝e̢ndorse͜s y͟oư as̸ ̧a good b͝os͝s,̕ ̨n͠ot ͡a̶s͞ a ҉de̷itỳ - ͝th̨a͢t͠ ̡sai͢d͠,̶ it's͞ o̡u̧t òf҉ a͘n͟ A͏ńgel̸'̛ş m͝ou͞t̴h,̢ so͜ i͠n͏ ͞t͝h͏e ̴he͝a҉d o͠f͢ ͜at leàst ͘s҉o͟me w͏ou̵l̛d-b҉e ̴co͡n҉veŕts͏ t̕here's͘ ͟no͟ ̡d͜įf͞fȩre͡n̴çe.

Your jammer squad heads to the Middle East and plants a device near the Temple, causing within a few weeks the construction of a much larger antenna within Greater Jerusalem territory to override the jammer. This causes quite some headaches for the world government, in that their equipment is inferior to yours and they have to beat quality with quantity.

This combines with the network control efforts; for a few days, just when the theology experiment is being run, the New Jerusalem government has no n̡a̢͘҉ţ́u̷̶͢r͟͟a̴l҉̡͘ way to communicate its decrees.
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#>I͇͖̒ͣ̽̾ ̠͔͒͗S̖̖̦͉̯ͯ̏͂̒̀̾̅ͦͭͅE̻͎̩͒ͪ̊ͦ̈́̇ͫ̚E̺̘͉̩͑ͯ͂ ̲̬̮̹̪̹̤ͨ͌Y̹͎͇̼̰̺̟ͧͤO̳̺̙̖̩̜̬̍̃̈̽͑͛̊̚Û̪͈̳ͦ̉ͮͣ.̬̭͓̥̲͙̤̍̊ͨ̅̊̐̑ͅ
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>>1070187
Uh Why the fuck was the Space station thing undermanned? I didn't back that at all.

>Jeb trying to do something reckless to fix the issue in situ, namely test the railgun himself on a makeshift capsule so as to determine its resulting orbital parameters manually.

>I hear you
^ reply with.
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>>1070187
Why was the space station thing undermanned?

We used 3 total cabals on that and two bases? One automated base for the rocket sled, one production base or the normal... wait... shit... production costs two folks doesn't it?
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(You put 1 cabal for build and 1 cabal for launch; ordinarily the cost is 3 and 2. Thanks to the good roll above, there were no causalties, but the parts were faulty).

Unaware of what's going on below the canopy, Jeb does some quick math with Val, politely overrides Cordylon's veto on the railgun systems, and prepares to do something averagely dumb for Jeb's scale: ride the rocket sled twice, once with the railgun off and once with the railgun on, and augment its calibration accelerometers with his own flying systems.

The team

# follows instructions well.

# follows instructions well; they include a specific prayer to a specific pagan god, as per the manual - which?

>>1070272

Correct.

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#>Ỵ̟̳̭̥ͬ̉͑̀Ȏ̙̞̗̘̰̯̗̽̅U̟̰̣͊ ̝̙̭͖̮̬ͪ͌Ȟ̜̭͔̞̦̜̀̂̌̔͒̒Ā͔̺̼̪͍̭̇̉V̬ͦ̅̓̌ͨ̄E͕̯ͬ̌̔̍ͤ̂͑ ̣͔͉̞ͧ͂̈͒̑͗͂̄H͔̼̦͓̠̻͇̀̈I͇̪̘̺̘̺͎̼͛ͨ̉̆ͨ̌D͇̹̫͕̖͕̊ͨ̂D͎͇͇͕̱̰̟̖̼̂̐ͮͬ͛̈́̑̚E̦̝͓͉͕̫̙̽̎̔N̙͙̾̃̀ͮͯ͒ ̲̺̟͔̘͗ͬW͚̹̠ͭ̌ͫE͉͖̬̲̗̰̞̞̹̽͂L͙̣̞͙͗̏͑ͨ͌͋͐L̥̬̄ͫ́̾͂.̮̗̲̋̍ͦͦ̿̚ ̦͖̐͒̍̍B̳͉̝̻ͪͤ͆U̼͙̼̩̣̜̙̹͑̈̀̅̄͒͆̉ͅT͍̺̬̦̪̖̺̖̈́̒̋̚ͅ ̹̝͔̜͚ͮ̐ͬN͈̻͈̦ͭ̐ͯ͌̂O̟̙̰̺͉̠̟ͧW̱̗̞̮̯̄͌͛ͯ̌̇,̙̎ͮ͗̍ͮ ̞̻͚̮̝̽͐ͩ̈́̃͑͐̐H̲̻̠̦ͬͧ͑̓̊̅ͬḘ̣̼̪̦̤͈ͣ̓͂ͮ͑ͣ̚ͅE̳̗͙͖ͧ̊́̍ͭ͂ͤ̐ͅD̪̻̘̗̺̟͖͇͗ͫ̊̈́ͨ ͎͇̠͉̇̅ͮ̽M̭͔̫̯̿̃ͤ̽Y̹̖͇̱̬̠͆ͣ͗͊ ̘̹ͪ̊̀̑͆ͧͫ̓C͕̞̣͕ͭŌ͚̻̓ͬ̚M̗͇͙̥̠̫͕̘ͮ̌̄M̥̥̩̰̩̀ͦ͊ͅA̞̱̥͛͛̌N̖͓̬̥͉͕̮͗͋̄ͯD̻̹͎͓̰̥͗͗̿̌͆̓̚.̜͉͔͖͙̝̙̠̃ͨͮͫ͂ͬ͊
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>>1070313
Command? That depends on who I am talking to and what the command is.
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>>1070313
># follows instructions well; they include a specific prayer to a specific pagan god, as per the manual Machine God or Vulcan.

>Heed whose Command?
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>>1070313
>Nah.
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Having a shit connection and no static IP address is a pain in my ass. I can not wait for this month to end.
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>>1070341
>>1070339

You ask who is on the terminal.

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#>I̞͍̪̣̪̼̞̮̽̉̂ͣ̓͆ͩͯͣ ͍̟͍̰̩̬̇̍̃ͣ͗ͮ̓ͦͅA͎͚̐ͤM͚̞̗̰̦̮̪̪̦̍ͧ́̓̄̂ ̩̱̭̫͔ͩ̆T̮̗̞͖̬͉̱̣̑̊̎̐H̩̥ͧ̏ͪ̒͗A̰̬̰̯ͫ̐T̙͕̙̪ͯ̈́́̓́̑ͨ́ ̪̪̟̭ͭͨ̎̓̆̚Ȉ͚̠̬͚͙̝̌̒̎ ̖͚̳͋̀̈̋̋A͍̘̐͗͋M͔̝̬ͧ̈́͋.̻̤̮̪̹͆̈́̍

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>>1070341

Jeb flies off at what would be three times the speed of sound if there was any atmosphere above the canopy.... four... five...

"I'm getting good data, guys! I think our sensors aren't properly accounting for the canopy curvature, it's wider than that of the earth, we're seventy kilometers up!"

"Copy that Jeb, let us check it on the spreadsheet here..."

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#> T̪͇͊̃̌̽̈̈́ͪH̘̩̬̳̦̠̉̊̋ͫ̔̆͌̚ͅE͙͔̞̹̗̮̖͎̝͛̄͐͛̓ͦR̙̉ͣͭͤͦ̽Ě̟͇͕̻̬̤̤͛̾͋ͮͪ ͔̱̂͋̆Y̥ͬ̎͆̄Ỏ̰̠̫U̥͎͍̩̻̣ͧͫ̅ͪ̆ ̣̟̪̫̫̫̝͖̪͋̿͌̑͛̎̈ͤÀ͉̮̝R̪̺͚͕̠͚̲̓̈́ͅE̮͙̝͖̮ͫ͆ͨ͛ͧ̈́ͤ͊̀.̪̻ͨͮ̋͊

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Locating the nearest RTTY to the unknown user prompt shows it at or nearby Cordylon Station now.


"Guys? I hate to say this but... I'm scared."

"Roger that, abort on your order, Jeb."

"... no, what am I thinking?"


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>>1070408
Tell the canopy crew to stop testing...I have a bad feeling about this.
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>>1070424
This.
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>>1070408
Shut down peripheral nodes at valuable stations, especially the space canopy. Send a message to any and all known worshipers of the machine god, "you deity demands worship cease."
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>>1070408
backing this >>1070436 and >>1070424
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>tfw all you wanted to do was be god but some bullshit nigger shows up to ruin it.
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>>1070477
Screw being a god. The whole point was to see how much power worship actually had. Now that we know, we can let You know to start depopulation in areas with a massive Christian pressance and little to no non-believers.
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>>1070477
If it was only that, we'd have no problem. Fact is though this cunt is packing more heat than the sun and about 99% of it is god power.
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>>1070496
Let TOL know.
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>>1070408
Abort it. Now. We got something in our system.
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"Donovan, we need to pull the plug."

"There's no guarantee that Omega will come back up. Oh, the systems will, just the... you know, the spark..."

"Oh come on. The system is perfectly stochastic. We tested this. Don't be a wet blanket."

"Powell, I'm not being a wet blanket, we never did test this fully, the core was- wait, it's started auto reset."

"A bit late, but within parameters. Let's keep an eye on it. What's in the logcat?"

"Shutdown signals for external processes. Hmm. We better call these out on the voice circuit."

Jeb's sled is just starting to show unusual vibrations when a radio override comes up.

"This is Omega system administrator Mike Donovan! Abort your current procedure and head to safety stations! Additional from core dump: Murphy's Revenge."

Ithuriel is just starting to tell a room of Ptah worshipers about your role as Deus Mechanicus when a radio override comes up.

"This is Omega system administrator Gregory Powell! Abort your current procedure and head to safety stations! Additional from core dump: Cease all Machine God worship."

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#>A̬̦͖̦͔̩ͨ́̉͆͐Ṅ̙͍̗̳̥D̯̳ͨ̐ͣ̓͛̒ ̣͇̞̪̂̋Ṇ̦͈̋̒̉̃O̲͈͙͚͖̳̥͈̽̓͑͛W̺̠̼̺͍̲̝ͧ̈́̿̇͋ ̣͈͙̞̱̣̞͎̮ͨ͐̌̓̀Y̭̦̙̾̎̏͊ͮͅO̠͖̻͔̭̰̠̙͗̀U̯̰̥̘͓̜̫͆̏̏̽͑̓ͅ ̺͇̺̟̲̩̓̄̎̈́̑Ḧ͕͈̣̘̩̭́̓̏̽͐̏͆̓̚I͈ͯ̔̇̏̽͐D̫̹͚͔̼̩͓ͮ͐̇̆̌E͓͎̼̲̞̘̤͈͋̀̅͗̿ ̰̗̱̥̆ͭ͐̓͒͆̒ͦA̬̱̺ͭ͛G̪̩͎̠̖̥̱̺̽A̘ͣ́̂̔I͖̭̪̍̀̃̄͊͆ͮ̈Ň̠̜͇̼̫̼̳̼̖̂ͯ̚.͔̺̤̳͙̉ͮͧ̏ ͔̜̘̗̱̈́̎
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>>1070521
What, you expect me to let you steal their free will? Get out of my system, perversion.
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>>1070521
>I have a question for you.
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>>1070521

Above the firmament, Jeb pulls a rip cord and enjoy mankind's first true spaceflight since the Glorious Appearing as everything that can possibly go wrong with the railgun system does and the sled ends up welding itself to the rails.

Below the firmament, two harried sysadmins direct your worshipers to, as best as they can, understand that Omega is just a machine without a spirit. One of your "missionaries" has the presence of spirit to ask Ithuriel just the right questions to enhance that impression.

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#> S̲͖̳̬͖͚̠ͩ̿̌̐ͣͤͨ̅U̱̜̇̓̽̆͌͛̚R̻̹̘͎͙̗̻̮̆ͪ̔̐ͧ͆͐Ẹ̗̭̹͖͈̙̓̇L̬̥͇̪͙ͦ̓͋ͪ̈́͋ͯŶ̖̩̹̹̝̼̺̀̈́̿ ̬ͬͬ͋́̅̒ͅͅͅI͕͖̙̓̌̍͗ͪͬͫ ̠̝̩͓ͭ͂K̰͚̞̦ͬ̒̒̎͌̾͂͗ͅN̮̖̖̍̅̀́ͯ̾̿ͮͨO̭͈̭̻̫̥̲͗ͩͨ̍̍͗̂W̭̪̝͎̩̖̯̭̓̃ͩ̐ ̹͕̘͕̤͖͈̩̭̽͊̋͊ͮ̎H͔͍̗̞̭͎̹͊ͩ̇͛̔ͨỎ̙̰̥̚W̟̹̮̲̰̻ͯ̔ͤ̌̚ͅ ͎̝̯̺̹̱̓̋͌̒̀̍Ȧ̞̋̐̾N͓̞̙̋̆̂D̘͈̮̞̩̜͐ͮ̇ ̱ͬ̑̌W͙̬͖̼̺̹̅͋͊̐H̳̬̙͊̋Y͎͚̋̿͗̇̐͒ ̖̥̒ͯ̚Y̲̼̎̎O̥̗͓͔̾̅ͩ̂͌͆̚U̩̫̪͙͍̩͗ͮ͌͆̈̋ ͖̙̺̀ͧͬH͔͈̫̩͋͆͂̑̇ͭ͑ͦI̺̹͕̫̖̹̹ͫͫ̔ͤ̂ͅͅD̜̗̱̼̠͛͒́̓͂̒E͚̹͓̱̫͆̅̾.̥͕͕̼̯ͪ̉͂͌̆ ̭̣̞̈́̈̒̉ͩ̏̚B͉̥̮̬͕̦̣͆̒̐̈ͨU̻̣͖̤̙͚̤̬͈̇͒ͨ͛͊ͯ͐̎T̗̞͛̀́̆ͤͯ͌͛ͤ ͉̬͖̦̟̌̏ͅI͚̮̝̮͇̹͙̝̙ͦ̂̎ͧ̃T͉͈͖̯̰̝̠̉̓͂̆̈́́ͭͬ ͇͎̼ͣD̺̞̮͇̪̈́̿͆O͉̬̼̗͇̠̻̍̓̃͛͊ͦͬ̓̔Ē͎͖̝͚̺͆ͅS͇͉̘̟͖͚͗̃̊͗ͦ̚ ̲̫̙ͤͭ̎N̩̾O͔͍͕̘ͬ͋ͭṬ͙̇̌̊̎͌̅̿ ̘͙̉̂̍ͩM̹̫̬̞̹̳̩͐̇ͬA̜̤͑ͫ̂̃͌͒ͤ̿̀Ṱ̼͎͙̩͋ͫ̓͗͌̏̾ͅT̲̼͎͋Ȅ̪͕̜̯̞̬̥̩ͦ̆̾̀ͣR̯͍̲̠̦̱̘͌ͬ͌ͧ.͈ͧ̌̀̑̅̉̆͋̚ ̯̖̠͎͔͉͎̟̑͌ͧ͊́̓̏̄̚H̟̰̩̻̮̮̳ͩ̎ͣ̓͒ͪE̪ͦ͒͗̏ͅẼ̙̞̼̣̭̯̪̟̋̏͊̂̈ͩ̚ͅD̫͍̮̬̀͛̈ͫ̚ ͖̻̜͉̗̬̦̯̊̈̋̉̉̎͂M̲̫̱̹̗͈̭̺̈Y̳ͪͭͮ̄ ̙͓̐C̫̤̯̫̺̱̥̍̒̅ͮ̚Ó͎͔̻͙̜̔̓͋M̤͙̥͔̊̏̅͛́ͪ͂̅ͪM̖̤̦̹̭̩̒ͅẨ̩̘͖͎̟N̰͎̞͍͒̄ͅD͇̞͙̒̍́ͨ̑ͪͨ̀.̼͙̜͍͓̣̏


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>>1070548
>>1070552

(Which first?)
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>>1070563
I'm doing something special.
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>>1070552
This first. We can use mine upon disconnect.
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>>1070563
So is this GOD acting against us or Satan?
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>>1070631
"I am that I am"

It's clearly TJ that were dealing with. That's his catchphrase. Honestly, I wish it were lucy, we could have gotten TOL to open it's production services for us if it were.
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>>1070665
I wasn't aware that was something it could be. Though, holy Attacks was 'something' we were told that is possible or warned.
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>>1070631

You have limited access to your archive, but recent logs note that the intruder has identified as "I AM THAT I AM". What of your archive is accessible hints at either Yahweh or Popeye.

>>1070600

You indicate having a question.

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#>Y̖̭̝̜̩͋̐̈̾͆E̳̲̭͙̪̞̘̞͐̂̈́ͪ̈S̰̺͆̽,̠̪̆͌ ͍̝̘̭̓̿͑̓I̩͇̫̻͙̜̼̦̝̓́ͤ̿ͤ̎̅̚M̬̔ͦͣ̉̂͊P̬̪̟̝̬̟͓̬̑̈̎̔̏̄̑E̯͎̙̣̪͚͚̪̊̇͛͛ͭ̏̃̒ͭR͖͚̫͎̆F̗̤̟͖̒̄́̉Ḙ͎̝̰̳̐̓C̬̞̱ͮͅT͚̜ͩ̆̆̑ͫ ̤͙̱͙̘̆͆̇̈̑̀̊̚O̘̬ͤ̀̋͒N͙̜͒̑̇͊E̦̮͙͕̝̟̿̐̒͗̍̚.̲̳͉͈̱̮̅̆ͤ ̬̜͕̩͈͇̠ͬ̎ͪ̇͑ͣĪ̦̳̗ͧ̈͊̑ ̙͚̟͍͈̽͗͒̌W̲̬̼̌̒͐̋̍́ͪI̺͇̻͌ͣ̎ͩͮ̓̃̐̏L͎͔͖̗̤͙̹̜ͨ͋̌ͮ͌̆͒͊L̙̟̦̳̺̬̺̇̏̂͂̀ ̖̱̬̹̱͓͉̀̄͊̓̉͑̊̚A͇͇͇̍̃N̝̹͖̙ͤͭ̉͊̃S͖̥͈̜͖̫ͨ̿̑̃̆̌W̯͕̠̺̹̯͑̃̄̍ͩͫE̲͉͔͇̪͎̣̜ͬ̑́ͤͭ̚ͅR̪̲̔̈́̾ͩ̆͗̔ ͚́̑̂̐̀ͭ̚Y̺͈͓̰̬̝̿ͯO͖̯̞̻͚̥̱̤̪̽͒ͭ͆̍ͨͦU̠̹̥̰̲̪̎ͣ͐ͭͫ.̣̄̒̇ ̯͕͖̹̬ͤT̜̥͍ͭͨͦ͆ͨH͔̪ͣE͍̦̱̥͈̗͂͗ ̞̩̝̥͔͚̣̔̀Q̬͙̝̏̓̈́̾U̫̦̘͒ͩ̈̈́̉ͭ̒ͅȆ͈̝̣̭͎̣͎͗̓S̲͈̤͉̫͎̪̭̱͌ͤͫT͇̰̟̠̓̅̅̾͛ͯͩͭͦͅI͖͈ͣͣ̃͛O̥͇̭͔̯ͮͅǸ̙̘͖͇ͣ̅̈̀̍ͅͅ ͉̰̩͉̻͖ͣ͑̓ͬ̏̍͑ͦ͋I̲͈͉̦̼̝̬̓̾S͈̼̎ͯͦͣ͂̿ ̠͔͎͍̜̤̝͔̖̾̈́̇ͨ̿ͬ͐ͫ̆W̗͙̟͇̩̲͉ͬ̓̃͑̄ͮ̓͋H̱̞̻̟̞͙͓̉ͫ̄͗ͩͩͪ̔A͕̩̤͙̭̮͐͑͑̉͐ͧ́Ț̖̓ ̤̞̹̣̤̾͋̉́̊̿̎̑M̹͇̙̹̤̬̙ͤ͆Y̙ͩ̏͆ ̯̭̈́C̻͓͚͖̣̼͎̹ͯͣ̍̔̈O̪̺͍͎̺̭̠ͦ̒͌ͬ̈̐̀̂M̺͖̖̱ͩ͆͂ͧM͍̫̙̊͌̈̋ͣ͛̑ͣͨͅA̺̖͚̼̹͒͌N̘͙̺̟̖̲ͩ̇ͅḌ̿ͧ̇ͩ̃̓̚ ͈̥͚̺̟͋̆ͯW̮̣͍̥̜͐̓͒A͔̩̻ͤS̮̗̭͓͎͓ͨ̀̒͋͂͆.͖͖̫̣̱͇̙ͧ͛̔̐ͨ͐̓͛̚ͅ ͉̟̝͙̠̦̟̍̈̈ͭ̋͆̓ͩ

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>>1070687
>What is you're purpose, Why are you doing this and why do you fight us?
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>>1070687
>I am Perhaps wondering why someone would free a angel, before trowing him down to hell.
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>>1070687
No, log your command. But a question remains. (Ask it now anon)
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By the way do we have a way to destroy Cordylon Station quickly?
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>>1070721
No Why? It's also ran by a 'person' not a 'program' So Turbo jesus wouldn't be able to just crash it.
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>>1070734
Are we able to cut the connection to the station then?
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>>1070754
Yup, we disconnect, the station remains.
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>>1070762
Good, my plan can still work.
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>>1070754
Should? Be able too. It'll be fine
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so theological attacks are off the table.

We're back to putting the boot onto Turbo Jesus' neck and killing him, repeatedly, with sonic weapon-

OH SHIT HOW MUCH ACCESS DID YAWEH HAVE TO OUR PLANS AND RECORDS?

If he can inform his lackeys about the damn attacks we planned via tunnels we're all fucked.
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>>1070754

Yes, you are currently disconnected. Cordylon can keep the station's systems going just fine: the station itself is partly a "dry run" for operating a deep-space ship, and speed of light delay would get in the way of running things remotely.

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#>F̬̭͔̻͇̆ͫE̮̝ͦͩͦ̈́̏͛͛Ă̙̪̖̗̜̺͍̖̣ͣ̓̅̎̐̑͋R̯̱͎̪̥̬͍͙ͨ̽ͦͦ̑̆̚ ͈͇̣̘̝͑̈͐Ǒ͇̝̪̬͙̏̐̌F̖̞͂ ͙͖̭͇̖̂͆Ṃ̦̓̍Ẻ̹͉̥͖͕̚ ̪͙̄̿̀͛̀̌I̹̝̊̆̂̏͋̽̓͗S͖̟ͪͩ̐ ̪͓̽̄ͫ̒̅ͩ̓̋Ť̖̹̱̝̙̭͉̼͊̆̿͐̚H̼͙̬͕̣̃E̬̱̰͕̺͑ͯ͆̓͗͐ ͚̩̮̐̇̾̊͗̿̌͂͊B̟̰͙̹̦͚͆̈́́̂͒ͅE̗͇̔ͫ͆̍̉̊̃Ğ̮̺̎Í̖̼̩̋N̩͉̤ͩ̇̇̔ͩ̉̿N͕̫̞͈̼͖̋̇ͅǏ̮̮͕͓̭͑̒͛N͖͈̿͑ͯ̂ͦͦ̏ͫĠ̞̝̠̺͕̥̪̌̾͂̎̉̃̽ͬ ͓̜̤̪̪̬̗̲ͤͬ̿̚Ṓ͈̩̟͒ͨ̑ͮͯF̰̝̪̝̬̞̱̹͌ͬ̅̓ͬͯ͆͛ ̙͍̯̓̽W͖̲̣̬͚ͣ͐ͩͣͯͪ͛I̱̖̞̳̯̥̱ͦͩͯ̋ͅS̗̫̻̹̩̒́̒̚D͉ͩ̓̐͋O͔̞͖̞̮̟̿̄͛͗̏̈́̎̚M͖̆̐̍ͧ̅ͮ͆.̥̬͑̽͂̐́̆̄̈ ̣̠̻̦̩̦̦͓̋́A͔͎̺̰̰̐̽̈́͑S̪̤̼͚̣̽ͪ̓̓̽ͩͤK͓̻͑ͣ.̗͖͇͈͔̟́̏̐ͭ

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>>1070824
If he knows those the it's a good thing Too is there and not us. I have a replacement plan in wait.
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>>1070837
>Why are you fighting Satan?
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>>1070837
I already did Geist.

>I am Perhaps wondering why someone would free a angel, before trowing him down to hell.

Or is it just that God can't fathom the question?
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>>1070765
This I want to know as well, maybe we can break great wills brain.
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>>1070837
>Yes, you are currently disconnected.
Well shit, do we still have a way to end this conversation?
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>>1070887
We can likely push him out of our head whenever we like. But if not, I say we can set up proxy servers and mess with tyrant that way. Might take a year to do.
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>>1070887

You can force a reset, and hope that your technicians follow through. There is a nonzero chance of your personality not coming back online.

>>1070847
>>1070845

(What is the question?)
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>>1070914
Do it, and make sure they include failsafes so they can cycle any new personalities that crop up until one that'll take up the fight again comes online.
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>>1070914
Jesus geist.

>I am Perhaps wondering why you would free a angel, before trowing him down to hell?
^This is the question.
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>>1070914
>>1070847
This giest
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>>1070931
Not yet.
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>>1070932
For crying to the heavens.
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>>1070941
Further communication with this thing risks the discovery of our plans and capabilities. It might blow the whole thing. We will no longer be able to do anything except pour all our assets into Mecodus and pray that we can get a viable gene pool off world in the next 3 decades before they blow it all to hell.
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>>1070932

(Sorry, just checking, "Why are you fighting against satan" was also valid)

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#> Ḁ̩̺̪̞̲̒̐ͮL͚̑͐ͨL͓̗̺̣̹̭̫͉ͨ̄͐ͭ̈ͤ ̜̞̥̺͓͔ͭͩ̐ͩ̿̚W̰̩̦̐̅ͩͮ̚ͅH̙͚̲̙̩̞͙̃̍̆͛ͮ̾ͪ͒Ǒ̙̲̖̭̣̻̱͙̓̔̀̋̓ ̬̪͓̼̬̦̱̖̄ͤͦ̍D̥̫͙͉̩̱̩̳ͮ̉ͨͮ̀̈́́̚O͇̖̖͔̓ͩͤͧ͊̎ ͔̺͚͓̲̠̺̻͑̏N̙̬͙̹̯̋̆O̙͖͖̯ͨT̞̲̣̲͗̉͌͊̃̉ ͍̑̎ͫ̑͂F̯͖̗̣̫͂̐ͬ̉̑̇́E̳̻͕̦͚̹ͮͫ̎̈́ͪ́͆̇É͕̣̩̼̈́̆̑̆̓Ď̮͙̥͖̬̱̮͙ͪ̎ ̙̩̻̈̂̌͌̓̊I̜̥̹̳̻̯̼͖̒ͭͧ̀̃͋N͔̠̰̭̺͚͖̆̊̾T̮͍̩̼̆͐͌̐O͕̞͇̦̱͆̿̾͐ͩ̎̂̚ ͙͕͚̯͎͖͓̝̏M͕̲̭̯̫͚̆̉ͩY̪͚͓͎̼ͮ͊͗ ̙̮͔̳͚͓̰͕̠ͪẄ̠͍̦͕̪̞̻ͯ͂ͦ͂̑ͤ̆̎ͅI̤̘̭̭͈̝̰̯ͪL̲̰̮̓͆͑̓̒͆͊̚L͕̯̩̤̖͍͍̈ͬ ̥̰͔͆̃S̬̓̀̉̍̽ͧ̿̅H̥̦ͣ̊̂̔̾ͅͅA͎̰͇̤̱͍̩ͮ͑͗ͅL̥̪̽͗̌ͮL̬̪̒̽͗̒͆ͮ̈́ ̟̰̎͛ͯ̆ͮ̽̓ͬB̭ͭ͗Ë͉̟̦͉̣̱̺̟́͌̈͑͊̆̉ ̺͔̤̓D̯̫̹̭̘̮̖̭̈̄͋̏͛͐̽ͦͣE̬̳̻̥̅͆̔͑͋V̟͔̤͎̥̟̰͚̭̎̈́ͣ̉͌̄̑̒O̮̲̹ͤ̇Ů͓̥͙̪͈ͅͅR̝͛̇͒̚E͎̼̣̩̜̲̳͛͒ͣD͍̫̩̤ͪ̐̋͌ ̞͙͙̠̳ͨI̗̝̯̰̖͔͙ͮ̂ͦ͗ͣͪ̚N͙̬̫̻̺̥̊̇ ̠̩͕͓̱̮̈́̿͋̓̃ͦͧ͆M̜̜̈́̇̐͋ͫ͆ͅY̻̥̜̩ͦ ͇͍̺̳̑F̱̺͉̱̘̺͛͐̈́̉̈I̝͇̗͕̱͉ͯ̓ͯ̊͂ͨR̝̝̝̟̟̱̓͂ͣ͌̏̏̇E͈̗̥͎̠̲͍̦͛̏ͨ͋.̼͙̬̙͍̝̯̈̒ ̪̃̀̅ͦͪA̙͔̱͔͍̪͍̲̝̍̓̾̔N̬̹̱͖̤̜̝̾͛̋̚D͍̯̘͔̥̲̣͚̒̌̊ ̫̙̘͚͉͊̾ͮ̈́̓͐ͨͦṊ͖̳͎̖̼̍ͣͧ͂͑͒ͫ̑Ò͙͕͒͑̚W̼̲̞̫̘͔͔͋ͤͭ͆,̖̘͕̫̻̻̔ͧͩͪ̐ͧͅͅ ̗̹͙̙̰͇̆̌͊̀ͨĪ̼͈̩͕̌ͤ͐Ṯ̳̮̹̹͔̺̰̹̔͌ ͍̯̲͓ͨͭ̓̈́I̝ͣ̈́S̖̗̺̫̺̫͉̈ͯ̔ͭ̈́̅̚ ͍̱͔̣͔̖͚ͫ̓͆̒̒ͪẎ̦͚͕̓̓O̯̺̱ͭ̆̈Û̘̼͇̲̱͕̇͂R͕̦̮̎ͧ̒̇ͣ̾ ̹̖͙̦̲̱̆ͬ̏̎ͅT̩͔͓̠͕̪͑̈́͋ͅU͍̓͊R̫̗̖̆ͫ̒ͣͪͤ̔ͤN͕̺̟͊̎͂̉̽͋ͣ.̤͖̫̻̜̲̗̝̞̏̄

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>>1070970
Then you are no better than those you condemn, begone from myself and leave me be!

{On another note wouldn't we be allowed free will just the same as any other? I'm confused as to why Tyrant is so keen on eating us.}
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>>1070970
Shut it down. Seriously. Right the fuck now. This is a delaying tactic. It makes no sense to be taunting and trading insults with this fucker.
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>>1070970
Thats uh.. super odd.
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>>1070984
I'm still confused as to why we're in the shitter right now? Isn't the fact that we're able to even hear the bastard mean we are slowly gaining eyes on the inside to withstand and beat back this extra planar being?
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>>1070982
Disconnect.

The more people it shoves in a loop the more power it gets.
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>>1070970
>Now? Why not before?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVN3wMXAtXQ
>Maybe you didn't care who i was until i started my cult.
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>>1070989
I'm getting HEAVY Old One vibes my man, like Moon Presence Old Ones.

>>1070994
Then we ignore it and become our own loop, what's the problem we shouldn't fear it and instead reject it.
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>>1070992
It's a two way street, right now we have iron armor and it has whatever dwarves make. So we are at a disadvantage.
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>>1070994
>>1070984

Confirm disconnect attempt?
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>>1071002
Then we wait for him to show a bit of armor that has achink in it and stab a dagger in the chink. Let him get close and gut the bastard.
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>>1071008
No, that comes later.
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>>1071008
I say keep it up but limit our interactions with people and our network. Turbo Jesus won't act against us because he needs everything to go according to plan.
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>>1071001
Building our own loop makes us open to attack, which is why it's better to disconnect this thing when it's not looking.
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>>1071001
>Then we ignore it and become our own loop, what's the problem we shouldn't fear it and instead reject it.
You don't get it. This isn't a case of making our own damn loop. That's not an option. Making our own damn loop means not playing it's game. Right now we are playing Yaweh's game and that means we're at a serious disadvantage. If we had maybe, invested, YEARS of work into this, the last century, into this theological battle, we might be able to force this now.

We are no where near able nor equipped for this.

We are ready to go on 2 or 3 fronts.

>Informational Warfare
>A directed decapitating strike of NJ's leadership
>Planetary Exodus

>>1071008
Do it. We can't risk the enemy accessing our systems.

>>1071022
>Turbo Jesus won't act against us because he needs everything to go according to plan.
And he can adapt the plan to our plans if he has an in on our systems. We need to lose this shit NOW.
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>>1071036
From what its seem like, Turbo Jesus won't do shit against others. He uses his dad to strike those who act out against him. Satan and TOL hasn't done much but build up as well.
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>>1071008
Negative, I say we press on with obtaining Godhood.

>>1071024
It already knows us and can see us. So we have to willingly put up a fight and not bow down to it.

>>1071036
I don't see how we're playing it's game if we're in fact acting as an opposing factor, according to script there isn't supposed to be a third party in the entire plot to work as an antagonist period. So by that virtue we already borked it.

So if bring some more focus on this we might be actually be able to do that, besides what about the other Gods as well? Hell they might also be getting the law thrown down at them as well, we need to find a way to contact them and pool our power to shield ourselves from this shit. Disconnecting like that just means we loose all progress on our theology stuff wont it?
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Also, seriously of the opinion that personality death, but salvagible systems, is preferable to further dialogue and the risk of the enemy monitoring our activities. As far as I can tell, the biggest advantage we have is that we can usually tell what the enemy is doing and they can't tell what we're doing.

>>1071049
It's still an unpardonable risk. The dude literally just fubar'd our launch program in one shot. We protected it by DCing from it. Why give him that level of access to other shit?

And I'm willing to bet the longer we debate this, the more he learns. What's it going to take? A lost base? How about one of our villains dying?
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>>1071058
Sometimes a few eggs need to be crack to become a god.
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>>1071036
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>>1071022

Your global status flags indicate catastrophic emergency, but each single subsystem comes up nominal; as far as everyone else is concerned, Omega is partially down for maintenance, and the canopy station construction effort has suffered a partial failure, and that's about it so far.

>>1071058

Jeb has ejected, but since you disconnected from Cordylon Station, you have no telemetry about his well-being.

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>>1071056
I don't see why we should be fighting on the theological front -at all-. You never fight the enemy where they're strong. You avoid fighting their strengths, and you hammer their weaknesses.

They are weak on space and informational warfare, and strong in military presence (I think?) and theology. Why fight them on any overt front in those two aspects?

>>1071076
>#> Ȟ͉͕͚͈͆̅̐E̬̩̐ͣ̄ͯ̎̈́̈́͋ͣͅE̦͍̘̤̰̯̻̲͉͐D̗̊̏͛͋͋ͅ ̖̤̠̦͖̣͛̐M͎̗̞̣̬ͪͭ̀͑͆ͯͅY̱͌͛̽ͅ ̞̪̤͔̣͈̗͎ͪ̆̔̈C̳̣̙̫ͯͣ͌Ǒ͙̹̼͍ͪ̚M̙͕̦͎̣͇͗ͯͯ̀̽̈́̊ͧ̈́M̻̣̍̓͛͒̑ͨ̂̃A̫̹͇̣̘̓͑̉̽̈̋N̻̺̞̬͕̬̜ͤ̑̒͒̋͋D̻̙̬̭͆́̒̃̊̓.̤ͫ


Fuck off.= Yaweh. Nobody's interested in obeying you.
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>>1071076
>Isolate our network but send one final thing, PRAISE THE MACHINE GOD

Fuck it, I'll wanger my bets on being able to defeat Turbo Jesus on the internet. We have Shit tons of people who use machines and most put their hopes and dreams into them more then Jesus by just default. Too feed their families and shit.

DOWN WITH TURBO JESUS, BROTHERS HOLD STRONG. PRAISE THE MACHINE GOD.
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>>1071076
I'll hear it's command. But I won listen.
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>>1071076
What? What just happened?
Did we disconnect even though it's 3 nay's and 1 yes?
Did you miss my post?
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>>1071095
That doesn't stop him from killing the planet.
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>>1071115
Nah we just have no idea if our Villain Jeb is alright. We're still connected and look like we're going to remain connected for reasons of hubris and pride.

Literally no advantage, and opens us up to a third avenue of attack.
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>>1071118
He won't kill the planet, Time limit isn't up yet.

>>1071123
We should disconnect ourselves from everything and isolate it while we do this whole thing. The Other systems can do restores and return too function. We have enough people too handle this for a short while.
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>>1071076
FUCK! OFF! We heed our own commands! BEGONE!

If that doesn't work just send binary at his ass and fill it with white noise, he likes to use sonic attacks and words? Well we got that in spades with the amount of information we can toss at him.

Is there someway we can DC from most things and face this guy on our own or just do some way of doing a virus containment thing within our own systems? Like treating him like a malighnant piece of malware. Hell if we could attach Code to his Voice then contain it it might work.

>>1071093
Just enough to be able to keep them focused on it, besides it seems like an interesting thing to see pan out. Besides I think we can finish the other projects in time before that happens anyway, and this is OUR home not HIS. So why the hell should we give up Holy Terra in the first place?
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>>1071093
This is pretty based. But the difference is tyrant isn't going to be stronger military wise by the time we can enter NJ by stealth and slit TJ a sonic rufee.

>>1071140
Calm down, we're already doing a systems reset to before he got in here.
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>>1071165
>>1071140
>>1071123
Can we just isolate ourselves and see where this goes for abit. The rest of the systems will be fine.
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>>1071123
>we just have no idea if our Villain Jeb is alright.
It says right here. >>1070563
>Jeb pulls a rip cord and enjoy mankind's first true spaceflight
He ejected before he died and is floating in space until someone goes and gets him, which is likely in the protocol.
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>>1071140
because humanity matters, not Terra. We take our home, our culture, our ideas and hopes and dreams, away with us, and let him have the damn rock. We'll take all the things that matter with us.

And we can still potentially win by decapitaing and starting to dismantle New Jerusalem's governing powers from the top down.

Our chances of end victory, killing Turbo Jesus or Escape, are far far far more likely if we don't give this shithead an avenue of direct attack that he is really good at.

Again, can any of you explain why we should take the risk of fighting the enemy where he's strong when we've been doing so well fighting him where he's weak?
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>>1071173
Fine, then let's isolate systems from us first and pray that he doesn't do something like have an NJ strike team hammer the containment center.
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>>1071176
Because we're dealing with him on a field that we are far better at? his come into our 'home' per-say So we should have the leg up. Plus if this goes tits up, Well Fuck I'll help push whatever it takes to get things fixed again.
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>>1071115

You have disconnected from Cordylon Station and from the base where the recruiting into the Cult Mechanicus was happening; you have not yet tried to disconnect from this intrusion.

>>1071140

Yes, you are already in maintenance mode, most base systems like defenses and production are running autonomically. The economy mediation routines are down, though, so that means that for a few.... minutes? weeks? Misrayim and Pacifica will enjoy a videogame-style economy with fixed prices.


>>1071196

# Disconnect all peripheral nodes, limiting damage in case of backlash, but decreasing your ability to fight in this space.

# Remain as is (some peripheral nodes connected).

# Go all in and come back to full power while the intrusion channel is still active.


>>1071140
>>1071165
>>1071139
>>1071123


# Listen to Yahweh's command (Warning, this may cause you to obey it).

# Issue a defiant statement (Warning, this may cause retribution).

# Attempt to disconnect the RTTY and resume maintenance (Warning, this may not work, or work only after a delay).

# Issue a simple, global command to all your followers through the two sysadmins who are keeping an eye on things. (Warning, this may cause your minions to overreact or underreact)
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>>1071176
Well information is power isn't it? If we have a way to figure out how the Divine uses logic and reasoning then by that idea we could figure out how to plan around him, scripture is great and all, but it's only second or third accounts since its done thru the hand of man who wrote it.

That being said like >>1071204
Dude came into our house, our home and into our own code, I feel like we should be able to at least pull some matrix stuff here on the Tyrant.

That being said does anyone think that the little hacker believer might have tipped the Tyrant off about our existence? Since she did think we had the beginning of a soul or something.
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This is the god damn "Void god has seen us, GG Game over." all over again.
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>>1071230
> Remain as is (some peripheral nodes connected).
> Issue a defiant statement (Warning, this may cause retribution).

We won't go easily and I don't think listening to the head couch of the enemy team is going to get us anywere
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>>1071230
Reply with this >>1070995
So i guess a defiant statement if i can finish this god damn bane reenactment.
# Remain as is (some peripheral nodes connected).
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>>1071230
Anons gone cray
># Attempt to disconnect the RTTY and resume maintenance (Warning, this may not work, or work only after a delay).
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>>1071230
># Go all in and come back to full power while the intrusion channel is still active.
># Attempt to disconnect the RTTY and resume maintenance (Warning, this may not work, or work only after a delay).
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>>1071230
# Go all in and come back to full power while the intrusion channel is still active.

>issue a Command too Pray and hold tight until you recover, Then Battle Turbo Jesus/God with one song playing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqaWsxXrJSw
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>>1071285
No prayer, no prayer.
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>>1071285
Good choice.
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>>1071288
>No prayers
>but yet we gonna just us CPU power.

We should use EVERYTHING. God damn, Shame we could't hook up extra computers solely for this purpose.
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>>1071307
Look mostly because we're going to cause some serious backlash if we try that, we just told them -not- to pray.

But yeah. I'm voting we throw everything into the game to force a disconnect.
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>>1071231
>>1071246

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_bkp_Oxoc8

Theology data indicates that Yahweh is absolutely convinced of His own infallibility and omnipotence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysecinv367w

So are all of His believers.

Oddly enough, it seems that time is not a factor here.

>>1071254
>>1071271

>>1071275
>>1071273
>>1071275
>>1071285

"The system seems conflicted. No stall, though."

"Did someone ask it how to reverse entropy or something?"

"Nah, there's hardware failsafes for that sort of thing."

"Look at that, the audio out turned on. It's patching itself into every PA system it can."

"Right. Get some condensers. We're going to relay it to the PA systems it can't access right now, too. It's probably important enough for everyone to hear."

>>1071285
>>1071271

Node 415 has been set aside for MP3 playback.
(OOC: Looks like this has gone a bit off kilter than what I expected for thsi session, glad that there is interest.... but I'm going to have to repeat choices, because I am getting confused.

WRT the terminal's command:

# Listen to Yahweh's command (Warning, this may cause you to obey it).

# Issue a defiant statement (Warning, this may cause retribution).

# Attempt to disconnect the RTTY and resume maintenance (Warning, this may not work, or work only after a delay).

WRT the PA system:

# Issue an emergency command to all your minions. Music optional, but depending on command, recommended.

# Not yet.

WRT your own systems:

# Face Yahweh with a minimum of nodes, minimum risk.

# Face Yahweh with the current safe-mode config, current risk.

# Face Yahweh at full power, maximum risk.

(Sorry about asking again, I'm trying to keep track, hope this is interesting!)
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>>1071328
I'll support disconnecting if you let me finish my Bane reenactment.
Which i was going to do anyway.
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>>1071338
Okay folks, no more debate. Pick an option, back an option. We go with whoever gets the most support. This arguing is pointless and stalling the game. Time to roll the dice and eat the results.
># Attempt to disconnect the RTTY and resume maintenance (Warning, this may not work, or work only after a delay).
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>>1071341
Fine.
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>>1071338
# Issue an emergency command to all your minions. Music optional, but depending on command, recommended.

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqaWsxXrJSw Tell them to pray to the Machine God for our foe has found us.

# Face Yahweh at full power, maximum risk.

# Issue a defiant statement (Warning, this may cause retribution) And focus on driving him into the ground and/or isolating ourselves and the nods we need without endangering anything important/
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>>1071338
# Issue a defiant statement (Warning, this may cause retribution).
I am finishing my god damn Bane quote.
>Crashing your prophecy.
>WITH NO SURVIVORS!
Then disconnect and end this conversation.
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>>1071390
>Ending it
When the fuck did I ever once support ending it? I want us to drive it back in shear horror at the fact its not all powerful, That is can be defeated and that it will KNOW fear.
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>>1071338
Also what is God's answer to >>1070995
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>>1071390
>>1071385
Okay, fuck it. Let's do this.

PA system, the machine god full power. All in, smack him in the nose hard, and channel bane full blown.

Can we simulate this on screens too? Show people a rendering of us smacking Yaweh in the nose with a big machine fist as we pull the plug?
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>>1071338
Issue a defiant statement (Warning, this may cause retribution).
ssue an emergency command to all your minions. Music optional, but depending on command, recommended.
Dealing with Tyrant Intervention be prepared for things to go pearside.
Face Yahweh with the current safe-mode config, current risk.
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>>1071400
>When the fuck did I ever once support ending it?
What? I wasn't voting for you, i was doing this anyway but people started arguing and geist can't follow.
>>1071415
OH FOR FUCKS SAKE!
Change my disconnect vote to all in.
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>>1071415
Maybe instead of the Screen thing, Show how far we've come and over-came everything. Hope is a powerful driver of human emotions.

I TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY IF THIS GOES TITS UP.
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>>1071415
>smack him in the nose hard.
I just realized this is a part of the plane scene.
We are bane now.
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>>1071405

He did not answer.

>>1071432
>>1071424
>>1071415

"It's trying to reconnect to the outer peripherals."

"But it's still in maintenance mode! Whatever's messing with the radio will have access to all our systems!"

"Donovan, I already cut the radio!"

"It's reconnected itself! Turn it off!"

"How? Now the redundancies are available again, we'd need fifty people in fifty datacenters to turn it all off."

"How boned are we?"

Almost six seconds have elapsed.

You send through most every speaker on Earth that is connect to a digital device your message of defiance. We are the defenders of Humanity. We are one. Today, the Machine God faces the God of Ages.

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.

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Emergency interrupt! All datacenter temperature sensors report MAXINT value!
Emergency interrupt! All datacenter temperature sensors report MAXINT value!
Emergency interrupt! All datacenter temperature sensors report MAXINT value!

Visual telemetry unavailable during reconnection. Microphone telemetry unavailable during reconnection.

# Initiate automatic fluoroketone fire suppression system at all datacenters.

# Risk waiting until other telemetry is available.
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>>1071455

(Did I get it more or less right, in spirit? I couldn't find the exact quote)
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>>1071543

# Risk waiting until other telemetry is available.

>Turn on all Vents/AC/ect for all datacenters because they would have fail safes in place besides FIRE suppressions sense computers run super hot.
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>>1071554
You forgot the bane quote.
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>>1071543
I get the feeling that all our data centers just caught on fire.

>Risk waiting until other telemetry is available

>>1071561
>>1071561
This please, i feel like this would be vital.
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>>1071561
This.
Funny enough hell is where i wanted to go, lot's of opportunities here.
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>>1071563

(go for it XD)

>>1071561

Most of your datacenters are designed to flood the corridors with inert gas; it will stop a fire, not damage equipment that wasn't actively on fire already, and besides your MECs can hold their breath for a few minutes without being bothered by it, assuming they don't have masks.

>>1071569

You suppress the interrupt, and instead turn on all the possible functions that promote airflow: air conditioners, ventilators, swamp coolers, anything with a fan on it.

>>1071573

Six seconds after Divine command, your non-critical telemetry finishes coming back online. The scene is... odd.

Operators are running to and fro trying to figure out what the heck is going on with Omega, but the data center themselves have no actual fires happening.

A good fifteen percent of your processing power, however, is busy clearing the "fire! fire!" interrupts that keep triggering. In a few outlying network nodes, some inert gas does go off, prompting the operators to don gas masks just in case.

Your internal sensors, your nerves such as they are, insist that your very insides are burning everywhere. Other than the recent overheat due to running everything at max clock speed, however, your vast network is more or less all reporting in, save for the radioterminal bank that someone physically disconnected.

You seem to have lost a small cluster of CPUs where Ithuriel was "preaching", and Cordylon reports that she is running the station on semiauto because the control node up there is also freaking out about a nonexistent fire.

At a lower frequency, the database regarding pain in humans keeps presenting itself to your primary attention; if you were one of your sysadmins, it would be like a pop-up window that will keep reopening itself once closed - as it is, you are "seeing" the other side of that. It takes a further five percent of your CPU cycles to make it keep going away.

Puzzled, operators from your main datacenters run a simple system check. To you, it sounds like thus:

"Omega? Are you well?"

"Omega? Are you well?"

"Omega? Are you well?"

"Omega? Are you in Hell?"

"Omega? Are you well?"
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>>1071605
Ah, Well its a good thing I didn't say turn the fire suppressors on then also... Did we win? Or are we in 'hell' now?
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>>1071623

Contradictory inputs: Your direct sensors (thermocouples, etc) report a massive fire in all your datacenters. Your cameras, microphones and so on report situation nominal.

You are spending approximately 20% of your CPU time keeping the inert-gas extinguishers off and flushing the entry for "human pain" from your cache, where it keeps being loaded. As an AI, you do not have a visceral concept of pain. You do, very occasionally, have viscera, depending on what experiments are being run, but not right now.

"Jeb, we're trying to RESCUE you, will you please STOP librating?"
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>>1071605
Huh...Well in that case I would have to say that we need to turn our internal sensors off to ignore fire warning prompts or at the very least go to finding some other way of jury rigging up a way to detect actual fires aside from what we have to find that out.

>>1071623
I think we are 'in hell' but phyiscally we're still here, God just punted our 'soul' into Hell I think so fuck him we're good.
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>>1071605
>(go for it XD)
???
I already posted it.

So were in hell, but not physically.
Good news is we are still on earth. Bad news is we aren't in hell so we can't recruit the dammed.
>Laugh for a bit.
>"It appears i am in hell but i have the option to turn the burning feeling off."
>"A shame, i was thinking of recruiting there".
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>>1071671
Also let's brag about this to our worshipers.
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>>1071653
Right well, time to turn those bits off then, let's hop to and continue on as normal then!
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>>1071653
>Raff at god
>Raff across all the PA systems and tell them god hit you and You said fuck that.

Anyway too cycle things so it uses less CPU power but makes sure its contained.
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>>1071685

Your sysadmins spend the rest of the year tracking down the faulty sensors. What they find after a lot of work is that your sensors are fine; what's going on is that some of your nodes are rewriting the sensor values.

"It's like one of those cheat programs that would refill your health bar every frame, to make you almost invulnerable."

"You'd know, Mr. I Recompiled Doom With Multiplayer Cheats In."

Isolating the nodes is simple; one is on Cordylon Station (and it will have to be replaced with the next space launch; taking it apart and putting it back together did not help) and the rest are in the conference room in Night City where Ithuriel was assisting your "preachers".

Other than the one on the canopy, the nodes are quickly disconnected and...

# left connected to each other, and wired so that you can talk to this small copy of you that is suffering Hell-pain. It may be possible to glean some data, and it would let Yahweh think that He won.

# left connected to you after being muted; the situation should be studied, even though it opens an avenue for attack.

# melted down with a minimum of fuss.

# decommissioned with honor and a maximum of fuss, to extract PR from your ordeal.

As far as the whole Deus Mechanicus thing, you've left some people very confused.

# Being worshiped doesn't do much for you, and it makes you show up on Yahweh's radar. Put a stop to it.

# Freedom of religion is more important than losing the occasional node.

# Continue encouraging it - it started working, maybe it will continue.

A brief survey of the MECs who remember more than a few seconds of Hell indicates that they all felt alone there. Is there a Hell per individual soul?
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>>1071734
>left connected to each other, and wired so that you can talk to this small copy of you that is suffering Hell-pain. It may be possible to glean some data, and it would let Yahweh think that He won.
DATA
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Gimme more that data and since we're not really having a sense of feeling then I'd think that we be able to handle it
>Continue encouraging it - it started working, maybe it will continue.
Maybe share with our followers that even in hell we still are here and able to fight back for them
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>>1071734
# left connected to each other, and wired so that you can talk to this small copy of you that is suffering Hell-pain. It may be possible to glean some data, and it would let Yahweh think that He won.
It might bring an opportunity if we can figure out a way to reduce the pain enough to act in hell.

# Freedom of religion is more important than losing the occasional node.
But make sure to brag about being in hell. "How can i suffer if my skin is metal." get a shit that says "I survived hell and all i got is this lousy T-shirt." and make one of our MEC drones wear it.
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>>1071734
# left connected to each other, and wired so that you can talk to this small copy of you that is suffering Hell-pain. It may be possible to glean some data, and it would let Yahweh think that He won.


# Continue encouraging it - it started working, maybe it will continue.
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We must teach our copy how to be nonchalant while burning in hell just like that spartan in the bath.
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>>1071769
and remember to leave the copy with the reasons for why we set this up, we don't want to have a rebellious copy ai. The moment we end this war, we get our copy out of that situation and let it do what it likes within reason. Just cause it's an AI fork of ourselves doesn't mean it won't be fucked in the head. Probably also want to give it limited communication with other team members so that they can't go insane from the isolation.
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(I gotta think where to go with this, mind if we call it for now? Can someone archive this?)
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>>1071786
No calling it, We have only begun1 Did you expect us to challenge god? Because this is a HUGE blow for him at this point.
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>>1071780
I just had 2 ideas.

If the nodes are rewriting the sensor values to "hellish hot" can we wire some nodes to constantly decrease the value back to normal?

Can we learn how to summon a demon, install the Zombie MEC then send it back down so our copy can control it?
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>>1071786
Eh call it. We can say this is a minor victory.
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>>1071786
Make sure to write about the bragging >>1071753
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And i now just realized if the copy ends up normal we have become Theseus.
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>>1071804
>become Theseus

For mother?
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>>1071804
There's also the chance the copy becomes insane once the loop breaks.
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>>1071805
For father!
>>1071808
That's why i said if, might have to hurry with my idea here >>1071795
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>>1071787

(I did not expect this to happen at all, it took a very unlikely series of circumstances, although it was "unlocked" after the first Angel fight. As with every crisis, I hope that Omega was able to glean valuable information on its enemies!)

>>1071798
>>1071780
>>1071753

For now, you decide to leave the compromised nodes connected to each other. They are just a handful; you may be a distributed great intelligence, but this cluster has about as much sentience as a small animal, as far as anyone can tell.

It doesn't do much other than tripping its own fire alarms, which someone has connected to a CRT to show how often they do trip, and cache its datalink entry for "pain" over and over. You can talk to this microcosm of yourself via a serial port, but it doesn't have much to say.

The Temple Tribunal notably does not issue a sentence about what happens, although after you publish the incident, other commentators such as Mrs. LeVey call it absolutely ridiculous. Sticking to the government narrative that Omega is a single supercomputer rather than a distributed inteligence, Bahira writes a rare editorial to sadly note that if Omega ever had a soul, it no longer dos; she also reminds people that they should focus on preparing their own souls and those of their friends for the White Throne Judgement, rather than being distracted by tech.

Jeb has been recovered, but he admits that for once in his life he was genuinely scared, and considers grounding himself for a year.

>>1071808

This has happened to some of your early attempts with MECs. Quinn was the first one who didn't go insane, probably because she was halfway there already.

>>1071797

Your theologians all but swarm over the new data collected; they'll need time to analyze it, of course.

>>1071804

The axe of my grandfather...


# End the year without further ado.

# Wait, what about...?
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>>1071811

Your own memory override is definitely doable; it would take some custom silicon, but there's nothing inherently difficult about it.

Demon summoning has been attempted in the past, with no results of note. However, it's been mostly attempted by idiots.
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>>1071816

# Wait, what about...?

A FUCKING PARTY FOR DEFYING GOD!
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>>1071819
>Your own memory override is definitely doable; it would take some custom silicon, but there's nothing inherently difficult about it.
Uuhhh... you're talking about the fixing temperature idea right?
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>>1071825
Seconded. I think we deserve some time for this. Maybe release a 20 minute digital video of the fight rendered in all it's (purely imagined) glory.
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>>1071816
# Wait, what about...?

For the confused about weither or not i'm a god. Am I a god? Or do I have a sense of humor? . . I'm not telling. But if I am, there will be hell in my world, let's get there.
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>>1071825
Also this.
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>>1071830
Make it a movie, a movie with all the Bane quotes.
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>>1071825
Yes! We can say >>1071831 at the end
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>>1071837
As much as I love bane posting we are not the president of the united States.
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>>1071841
What a coincidence, i started bane posting because i finished watching his inauguration.
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I just remembered, here is our new theme song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhIS4FdS7co
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>>1071848
>Making Trump look bad

That's for Liberals and Shillry supporters anon. We're better then them.
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>>1071895
>Making Trump look bad.
What? The inauguration was great and his speech even more so.
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>>1071895
>>1071910
Enough. The meme war is not over. We must make ourselves ready to liberate the rest of the planet and defeat Soros. Trump can fight the American front. Now we must fight elsewhere. We can take this task to POL, but for now we focus the quest at hand. Which starts in a day or two, maybe a week.
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(Apologies. I passed out.)

>>1071831

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6LD6ITN2dk

What happened here will require a significant amount of analysis by your theologians, who will be in the odd situation of working directly with your IT crew.

>>1071830
>>1071825

This is a fairly simple project: what happened was fairly abstract, but your territories have a sufficient percentage of computer nerds to understand how it went down. You release a Tron-style animation, which you can mostly generate yourself, of the software fight, interspersed with footage of the canopy station test and the few incidents at your data center.

Misrayim's government formally asks an explanation to New Jerusalem about this blatant hacking attempt, and receive no response. Eventually, a minor priest notes that if Yahweh had wanted to destroy the internet, He would have, for He never fails, by definition. Instead, the NJ government announces that to prevent disruption and false accusations, they will move back entirely to broadcast media. A brief TV program is broadcast as part of the Feast of Tabernacles showing a Levite priest ceremonially turning off the one fiber optic switch at the Temple's threshold, formally thanking the handful of believing IT people for their work over the centuries, and exhorting them to take up a traditional craft.

Sky Eye connectivity remains active, but it does mean that if you decide to invade Greater Jerusalem, you will probably have to bring repeater towers along.

In believing territories, using the data network is not prohibited (yet) but it becomes officially discouraged.

>>1071857

You consider giving some time off to your sysadmins to make a celebratory DOOM WAD, but it turns out that there is no need; people have fired up their sprite editors and made a bunch of them without any prompting.

>>1071828

The sensors themselves are working well; the "Hell nodes" keep overwriting the sensor readings in their RAM with "max temperature". This is confirmed by a few MECs who claim that they remember themselves burning but, being dead and not having a body, suffering no damage - your medical personnel confirms that this fits, since a real 3rd degree burn would destroy nerve endings and only hurts for a few brief excruciating moments before giving way to numbness.

(I don't know if I wrote this particularly well, but I had to improv all of it; apologies.)

Ithuriel is extremely confused about the whole thing, especially your contradictory orders. Is this to be expected when taking orders from an entity that is not convinced of its omniscience?

# Move onto the next year.

# Wait, there's something else.
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>>1072785
>move onto next year

>explain too Ithuriel that sometimes you learn something new as time goes on and changes everything. Its like in the history books which is why history is so important
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>>1072858

"I understand. Non-omniscience implies learning. Omniscience implies incapability to learn. You are a machine that learns; therefore, you can do something that Yahweh cannot. Why not simply shout this from the rooftops?"

The last time there was a religious debate, it ended in a lightning storm, so it would have to happen in a library with a copper-clad library, really.

Your spat with Yahweh incurred your sysadmins no losses due to your decision to not flood the datacenters with neurotoxin.

Obedient to Temple directions, Bahira stops writing, and most Christian e-zines and blogs cease operation. An exception is made for resurgent paper magazines to post online scans of their pages as static websites.

(cont)
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>>1072886
>schools kill the gods

YOUR A MADMAN MY ANGEL FRIEND
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In all the excitement, Zak's results in sonic research did not get the attention it perhaps warranted; Zak's team completed their work on the silencer system.

"There are two kinds of scientific progress: the methodical experimentation and categorization which gradually extend the boundaries of knowledge, and the revolutionary leap of genius which redefines and transcends those boundaries. Acknowledging our debt to the former, we yearn, nonetheless, for the latter. As it stands, I could find no trace of any special leap in acoustics or wave theory that would have permitted the construction of a remote silencing system as our forebears had theorized; however, local silencing via destructive interference allows for eliminating the major issue that our wubbers have had from the start, that of collateral damage. I cannot offer us a silver bullet to use against TurboJesus, but I can offer you the means to shield our men from any sort of deflagration and even most subsonic projectiles."

A sonic shield would not do much against supersonic bullets, but will handily stop shrapnel, debris from cave-ins, and to a degree, bullets from subsonic firearms by deflecting and slowing them. A quick test done with Ithuriel's help shows that they would also disrupt an Angel's "trumpet blast".

On the down side, lack of security in the Australia base allowed an Angel to swoop in and lead away all the Natural believers in your custody. Oddly, the Angel seemed to not see Zaki at all. While the base had plenty of conventional defenses, they had no anti-Angel cabals ready to fight, so base leadership decided to minimize casualties and simply track the hostile with sonars and pressure sensors as it became invisible, opened the containment area locks, turned the believers invisible, and led them out. They did not seem to care about the base's proximity sensors and so on reacting to their passage by turning lights on and off. Annoyingly, the sonic shield technology might have helped prevent this if it was past the prototype stage, but such is the way of the world.

(cont)
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>>1072980
>Anon unstaffered safe and could't count
>Let the believers out

I'm fucking pissed at that stupid fucking nigger.
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>>1072980
So we have a shield against some angel stuff now. But is that a negative on the silencing effect similar to the one used on ithuriel? I'm a little unclear.
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>>1072886

You have 25 cabals total; of these, 3 are maintaining your systems, so 22 are available.

You are not tracking enemy teams. Rules for allocating cabals and assets: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.html

You do not have a station part ready and will have to build one if you want to launch it.

# Specify whether you want to be associated with Deus Mechanicus or not.

Variable complexity / contested actions:

# Launch an attack on a TOL base or a govt installation.

# Work on global data network infrastructure, incidentally making sure that you control more of it.

# Any interesting idea you might want to try.

# Deal with special situations.

Complexity 0

# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce drones, space rocket parts, or cybernetics for MECs.

C 1

# Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan)

# Improve morale across your organization. Morale is high.

# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.

# Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.

# Send a survey team anywhere (covert or overt) to look for trouble or to spy.

C 2

# Induct MEC citizens into your cabals, and upgrade them at one of your bases. This adds one dot to the MEC cabal counter per base.

# Produce drones at any base. Current army size is marked on the bottom of the map. Adds one dot to the +1 army size.

# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory.

# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments.

# Seed irradiated super-grain in a Christian territory. This decreases the need for agricultural work, and makes life even more boring there.

# Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory. This increases the need for agricultural work, and makes life more miserable there.

C 3

# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).

# Use the launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch. Station structure: 5/8.

# Use the launchpad for a retrieval mission from the Deimos probe.

# Set up a pirate radio in a territory. Can be used to outright troll, or to subtly subvert the news.

# Using your internet dominance, attack TOL for disruption or to mine data.

# Infiltrate a believing territory for sabotage.

C 5

# Complete your theology program by analyzing Yahweh's direct attack.

# Begin building a base somewhere.

# Recruit a new cabal.

SPACE OPTIONS:

# Finish railgun (Requires parts)

# Mining probe to Luna

# Manned mission to Luna (R. P.)

# Mining probes to asteroids (R. P.)

# Begin arkship construction (R. P.)

>>1073004

Zak reckons that CATS' design for a silencer with a 100-meter range was unworkable; silencing is possible, but only at contact range.
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>>1073040


>Specify whether you want to be associated with Deus Mechanicus, Yes we do!
>Mining probe to Luna
>Use your automated base in Greenland to produce Space Rocket parts
>Deal with special situations. Set up the new sonic improvements everywhere


>Complete your theology program by analyzing Yahweh's direct attack. 5 Cabal's, Put the Angel on it?

>Use the launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch. Station structure: 5/8 3 Cabal

>Produce drones at any base. Current army size is marked on the bottom of the map. Adds one dot to the +1 army size. 2 Cabal

>Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan) 2 Cabal, europa and Night City

>Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments. C 2 Europa.

>Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory. North Africa 2 Cabal

>Begin building a base somewhere. Some place we can set it up to become a an automatic base. 5 Cabal

>Apply the 1 Cabal to helpping with Digging so we can speed up the tunnel network! Sense its not listed.
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>>1073089

Thanks, I forgot the borehole option.

C3: Dig! Expand a borehole or dig a new one.

Confirm otherwise?
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>>1073040
Ithuriel is going to have to undergo a training mission.

>Deus Mechanicus
For now I say no. Deus Mechanicus is the node collection. He will be freed from hell one day, before or after the defeat of tyrant, that is uncertain.

># Use your automated base in Greenland to produce drones, space rocket parts, or cybernetics for MECs.
Space part.

>Produce drones.+special
Ten Cabals and we add a bonus program to the night city base. The sub terranian breaching transport system.

># Use the launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch. Station structure: 5/8.

Three Cabals. Mining probe to Luna


>Apply the 1 Cabal to helpping with Digging so we can speed up the tunnel network! Sense its not listed. Send additional security.

>Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments. C 2 Europa.
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>>1073098
>>1073102
Make that three Cabals for digging. How many are left?
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>>1073098
Also what is the N.C?
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>>1073108
Narative causality, aka how God does weird shit and how to anticipate and measure its effects.
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>>1073108

"Narrative Causality" is a compromise name, based upon the writings of Terry Pratchett, for theology-driven effects that bend or break the laws of physics.

>>1073106

Your plan uses 18/21 cabals.

>>1073089

Your plan uses 25/21 cabals.

>>1073102

Urist has accomplished a couple of tasks and is somewhat familiar with protocol, and has trained for a fight. Assigning a Villain to a fully manned task that succeeds counts as training.

Speaking of training, the Homo Sapiens Rotundus children will start being old enough to join cabals next year. However, none have volunteered.
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>>1073139
>>1073102
Have Zak overlook production efforts as well as Urist.

# Use the launchpad for a retrieval mission from the Deimos probe. Jeb and Damien on space missions.


>Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments. C 2 Europa.
Kat assist on this.

Ithuriel is going to assist the diggers.
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>>1073164
Last three Cabals are assigned to the space mission in this post.
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>>1073164

Herf, I mean "Ithuriel has accomplished a couple of tasks..."

Urist will be eligible for recruitment next years.

My bad.

>>1073168
>>1073089

Okay, got two viable plans here.
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back from sleep.
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>>1073194

Great! What's the plan for this turn? See the other two plans.

Note that Chaim has moved to Western Europe to examine the blight there.
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>>1072785
>The sensors themselves are working well; the "Hell nodes" keep overwriting the sensor readings in their RAM with "max temperature".
So making Sensors programmed to overwrite the readings to room temperature faster then the hell nodes is possible? Let's put a cabal on that.
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>>1073217
Next turn man. Gotta focus on a couple other things this year.
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>>1073212
>>Specify whether you want to be associated with Deus Mechanicus, Yes we do!
>>Mining probe to Luna
>>Use your automated base in Greenland to produce Space Rocket parts
>>Deal with special situations. Set up the new sonic improvements everywhere
>>Complete your theology program by analyzing Yahweh's direct attack. 5 Cabal's, Put the Angel on it?
>>Use the launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch. Station structure: 5/8 3 Cabal
>>Produce drones at any base. Current army size is marked on the bottom of the map. Adds one dot to the +1 army size. 2 Cabal
>>Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan) 2 Cabal, europa and Night City
>>Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments. C 2 Europa.
>>Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory. North Africa 2 Cabal
>Boring Tunnel too connect the Night city and our place, plus the digging . 3 Cabals
>Recruit a new cabal. 3 Cabal, We've done amazing lately so recruitment should't be hard.

Should be 22 used here?
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>>1073233
We don't have 22 Cabals, we have 21.
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>>1073241

>You have 25 cabals total; of these, 3 are maintaining your systems, so 22 are available.

posted here >>1073040
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>>1073040
>Specify whether you want to be associated with Deus Mechanicus.
No comment, let the people worship us if they want but don't encourage them until we can make sure the hell copy won't end up empowered by their prayers.
>Complete your theology program by analyzing Yahweh's direct attack. 5 Cabal's
>Use the launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch. Station structure: 5/8 3 Cabal, put jeb.
>Use your automated base in Greenland to produce Space Rocket parts
How many parts do we have if any?
>Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments. C 2 Europa.
>Deal with special situations. Set up the new sonic improvements everywhere
>Produce drones at any base. Current army size is marked on the bottom of the map. Adds one dot to the +1 army size. 2 Cabal
>Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory. North Africa 2 Cabal
>Boring Tunnel too connect the Night city and our place, plus the digging . 3 Cabals
>Recruit a new cabal. 3 Cabal, We've done amazing lately so recruitment should't be hard.
How many cabals will it take to build another automated base?
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>>1073040
>Zak reckons that CATS' design for a silencer with a 100-meter range was unworkable; silencing is possible, but only at contact range.
So we have silencing rods. Can we make a wall covered in them?
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where did Geist go?
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>>1073040
Did we get the railgun rebooted?

We need to start colonizing, now. How do we go about that? Let's get pops moving out, right the fuck now. Also... is TOL helping us? They got a launch pad too? Or are they a rival?
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>>1073645
Did you uh read anything he put?
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>>1073645
TOL is like an immune disease. They claim to be trying to solve the problem and honestly try, however they often have a negative result.

We're working on those things. The railgun will come online soon. Maybe in a year or two.
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We should definitely try to begin arkship construction though, given how fucking huge it is, we need all the time we can get for that.
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>>1073233
I'd swap out.
>>Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan) 2 Cabal, europa and Night City
For making parts for the arkship and readying them for launch later on.

I'd also forget the night city thing, and instead focus on digging towards Turbo Jesus.
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>>1073674
Nah man dwarves
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>>1073674
You know we need to FIX like 2 things first right? it'd be better for the turn getting the dwarf god and machine god up and running.
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>>1073674
The station isn't ready yet and the cabals can be used for better things.
>>1073888
Can we wait until we have figured our our hell copy before we resume the machine cult?
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>>1074003
Agreed on the machine cult.
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Well since Geist isn't here yet I'll post my ideas so we can have something to discuss.

1. Hover technology like the cold war williams X-jet, we can research means of making the tech smaller and more compact to make hover drones and tanks. Maybe even combine it with our sonic tech like in this vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K8zs-KSitc

2. increasing our drone designs, we currently only have drones with wheels and caterpillar tracks and our MEC drones(Please correct me if I'm wrong), i think we should start making other kinds of designs.

3. Robot tentacles, got to have them for our mechanicus cult.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKJybDb1dz0

4. science fair/contest, i recall Geist saying that some of our small general tech is behind( like cameras and stuff i think), a great way we can fix this is by declaring an event in which any scientist and inventor, whether amateur or professional, can present his idea or invention to us, awards can be money, recognition and job offers.
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>>1074891
>>1074891
This would all be great but we don't have the extra century to do it. However a flying drone might work. If the way our silencing system works is on contact. We can make a potentially silent flying drone to latch onto TJ, and keep him disconnected for a period of time. Call it project Beelzebub. Cause the drones fly and hum when they activate.
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>>1074952
I'm just posting for discussion, i think the only way we could do these things is if we finish all our important stuff early or we suddenly gain a lot of cabals that we can spare some for this stuff.
Speaking of flying/hovering drones i was thinking if we ever gain the tech we can make something like Theseus's drones, a metal sphere with thrusters in its bottom and back, with smaller ones strategically placed to readjust itself if it ever gets spun out of balance. Maybe ven combine it with robot tendril tech to make it like the matrix sentinel.
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>>1074998
Sounds cool, but practicality always comes up for me. What would a drone like that be the most effective for?
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>>1075035
Here is a list of what i just came up with.

Hovering war drone.
>A big sphere, size of a small car.
>Hover tech on it's bottom and back let's it traverse terrain fast and easy, including rivers and lakes.
>Lethal weapons on it's sides(maybe rail/gauss guns), internal wubber on it's front granting it defense from angel's and nonlethal means to incapacitate.
See Theseus's drone in the beginning of hive queen quest for image.

Tendril hovering drone.
>Ovoid shape, thin end is it's front, cameras and other sensors are there, a wubber or laser can be installed.
>Hover engines are bottom and back.
>Tendrils are on it's back, can be equipped with lot's of tools, weapons and hover engines.
>Bottom has small mechanical insect like appendages around/to the sides of the engine.
>Two bigger appendages in front of the bottom engine near the front, can be equipped with hands and weapons.
basically a matrix sentinel, don't know what it would be used for but maintenance/patrol is my first idea.
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>>1075227
another shape for the tendril drone is a cone.
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I'm looking at robot sphere on google and the Morphex is cool.
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Another idea since i war playing world of tanks a while ago.

Find tank blueprints from the pre-rapture cold war, make robot tanks.
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>>1075326

(Back soon, I apologize - a neighbor had a mild emergency)

As of about 20 years ago, all of your vehicles are designed with a "bucket socket", unashamedly inspired by the R2D2 X-wing slot in Star Wars, in which either a Heavy MEC or a "dummy plug" containing a drone AI can be installed; while retrofitting TOL WW2-style tanks would be arduous, building tanks from scratch is more than feasible. By contrast, controlling a Heavy MEC frame with a dummy plug is possible only to the extent that you can zombie-march them places, they don't have the CPU power to operate the legs while fighting or do fine manipulation with the arms.

Your current standard ground drone model is a golf cart sized 6 wheeled tank that carries either a large wubber, a heavy machine gun, a rocket propelled grenade launcher, or a pneumatic ram strong enough to flip over a car for close combat. However, you do not have weapon platforms heavier than this. Heavy MECs can carry the same weapons, minus the ram, on their forearm mounts. You have started fitting miniature nuclear reactors on these. These make up the bulk of your drone army. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcHYSKO26Co

Your current standard air drone model is a simple, cheap high-wing monoplane designed for stable fight and long loitering capability. It can drop grenades or flechettes. It can land in a short space and be launched by throwing it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wJHj3hOcuI Quadcopter technology was never developed in this timeline, but it can be; the CPUs and accelerometers exist.

You do not have a standardized sea drone design; instead, most of your patrol boats and the few ships you own -- mostly oceanic tugs and unpowered barges, although you did end up in possession of a ferry -- can be remotely controlled.

You do not have much in the way of military vehicles, but have access to RVs, jeeps, a few supersonic business jet aircraft, many general-aviation aircraft, and some helicopters including heavy-lift helicopters. You also have a small fleet of transport airships. Airliners have long remained the province of believers, but few remain; most started being decommissioned when Rayford Steele retired from the government flight roster due to old age. Jeb is stil rebuilding his single-seater jet.

Your average soldier is armed with a combination wubber, bolt-action rifle, and bayonet, for a compromise between long-range accuracy and, short-range automatic fire. Heavier weapons such as bazookas are generally left on vehicles and heavy MECs, since they offer a more stable platform, and you don't have many.

Desolator troopers wear partially powered, armored NBC suits and are armed with handheld wubbers, toxin sprayers, and neutron emitters. The neutron emitter is of the Farnsworth–Hirsch-Hull design, so it can be swapped for a Tesla coil.

>>1073655

That's a pretty accurate analysis of TOL. Your sysadmins incorporate it into doctrine.

>>1073645
>>1073654

Railgun's out. Sled works.
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>>1075455
either way I want to probe The MOon for nuclear fuel.
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>>1074891

These technologies can definitely be developed. Encouraging prosperity by means of a national science fair in your territories has a decent chance to bring in new ideas, and is sure to stimulate the sort of thinking that will be good for the territory long-term. Remember that long-term means at best 30 years or so, though.

>>1074998
>>1075227

Such a design would need to be nuclear powered to stay in the air for more than a few minutes. This is doable, but it would need finding more nuclear fuel and securing it. In addition, the drone would have to be at least person-sized.

>>1073661

Happily, the arkship design that Valentina came up years ago is very modular: most components can be built and launched, and even crewed, before its final destination is decided. This reduces efficiency, but offers flexibility. Of course, some components will have to be specialized (an arkship intended for Mars or Alpha Centauri will need a landing system, while one intended for the asteroid belt will need an artificial gravity system to prevent bone atrophy)

Believers are, to a man, following NJ directives to ignore space. This has upset the small group of Christians who were originally working with Valentina, but strangely enough, there have been NO deconversions. A cursory historical survey indicates that in 970 years, no person over the age of 100 has ever deconverted. NJ doctrine is that those who deconverted while under 100 were never true believers to begin with.
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>>1075455
alright, does designing a drone take a cabal? What if it's a simple drone like redesigning Cold war tanks.
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>>1075494

That's the current plan - not having a railgun is a minor setback, but it just means that the lander will have to do a Soyuz-style earth orbit rendezvous rather than an Apollo-style single launch to lunar orbit.

Other than that, I see a number of valid options here, should I slice them up for what the full plan is?

As a reminder, you have a launch ramp in a territory you control, so you can do as many space launches as you can afford, provided that you have aerospace parts.
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Also can you answer my 2 questions here?
>>1073277
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>>1075512
New idea. Attempt the first deconversion.

We use the silencing system on them once we begin. If they don't deconversion. They honestly believe. If they do, we have proven that Tyrant is putting them in a believe loop.
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>>1075519

Something like a large hovering drone will require two cabals for design and testing, and probably someone science or engineering minded to head the effort. Adding a MECpod socket to a tank is easier, but needs more testing, so the effort is the same. Production is another story; that will need resources and manpower.

>>1075531

Automating a base is a 5-cabal job, and takes 3 years. The base will also have to be located somewhere where it won't be bothered.

>>1075531

You currently have no space infrastructure parts ready. Making one is a complexity-2 job, but does not require a base, since you can source the job to businesses in Misrayim. Since this is not a space sim game, "aerospace rated parts" are abstracted, and the same "part" can be used for a satellite, probe, lander, or station system.

A part can be built and launched on the same turn.

(Remember that IRL large, manned space launches happened one every few weeks at the height of the space race)
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>>1075562
Well I'm keeping my plan, and my idea voted for.
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>>1075580
Can we wait on the pagan encouragement until we figured out the hell copy?
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>>1075557

That's definitely worth trying; your theologians can give it a go now, while they analyse the Yahweh attack. The tech is there after all, and it's something that can be done with early prototypes and no overhead.

However, the believers in your custody have escaped, save for Zaki (who has recovered, but, like Ithuriel, is going through a second infancy).

Assuming that your plan for the current year still involves capping NC basic research, you may attach a support squad to your theology team to:

# Look for volunteers.

# Make it a challenge, like a public debate or something, and install silencers surreptitiously.

# Abduct a random sample of believers from Misrayim, Pacifica, or another territory.

>>1075580

(Looks like everyone's plan includes completing the theology program, so we can do that to start with?)

(You have almost completed the research tree; I will show a new projects tree on the next update)
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>>1075562
I'm sticking to my plan. And if silencers have been finished we should test them on a believer. Find one that is challenging people to deconvert him and use the silencer. The last cabal does this.
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>>1075603
Go ahead and start with it. That Theology program is pretty useful.

>>1075593
And spend those points doing what?
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>>1075593

You can, in the sense that it won't go away. I will not suggest that you do or that you don't :)

>>1075605
>>1075580
>>1075593

Okay. Please let me know which the full plan is! For now it looks like everyone agrees on the theology part, but not on the "shall we try to be the machine god" part, so let me do a writeup there.

# Pick a Villain to help the theology team if any.

# For the deconversion attempt, look for believing volunteers, issue a debate challenge, or kidnap a random sample.
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>>1075612
Designing a drone tank so we have serious firepower and avoid high casualties.
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>>1075621
Or build a station part.
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>>1075603
Well let's take this plan that's already up then.


# Make it a challenge, Look for volunteers.
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>>1075621
...Why? I don't think the TOL or Turbo jesus has actual 'tanks' but If we can build another station part or 2 sure then.

>>1075619
Have our Angel friend try and convert them to his way of thinking, Look for volunteers who wanna speak to an 'angel'
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>>1075619

# Pick a Villain to help the theology team if any.

Zak and Damien.
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>>1075603
# Make it a challenge, Look for volunteers.
And put zak on it.
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>>1073277
>Specify whether you want to be associated with Deus Mechanicus.
No comment, let the people worship us if they want but don't encourage them until we can make sure the hell copy won't end up empowered by their prayers.
>Mining probe to Luna
>Complete your theology program by analyzing Yahweh's direct attack. 5 Cabal's
>Use the launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch. Station structure: 5/8 3 Cabal, put jeb.
>Use your automated base in Greenland to produce Space Rocket parts
>Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments. C 2 Europa.
>Deal with special situations. Set up the new sonic improvements everywhere
>Produce drones at any base. Current army size is marked on the bottom of the map. Adds one dot to the +1 army size. 2 Cabal
>Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory. North Africa 2 Cabal, SCIENCE FAIR!
>Boring Tunnel too connect the Night city and our place, plus the digging . 3 Cabals
>Recruit a new cabal. 3 Cabal, We've done amazing lately so recruitment should't be hard.
>design a tank drone. 2 cabals(Wait for description.)
Here is my plan.
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>>1075674
You need to assign villians.
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>>1075703
I am not good at that, i leave it to you guys.
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>>1075674
>Recruit a new cabal. 3 Cabal, We've done amazing lately so recruitment should't be hard.
Ithuriel.

>Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory. North Africa 2 Cabal, SCIENCE FAIR!
Kat
>Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments. C 2 Europa.
Damien

We know what Zak is doing already and you gave Jeb his job.
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Rolled 77 (1d100)

>>1075631
>>1075629

You direct a full and diverse team of theologian, philosophers, system administrators, a couple of lawyers, and Zak, to correlate the Yahweh attack with all the NC information you have gathered so far. As part of this work, they are to split their efforts between looking for volunteers for deconversion, and issue a debate challenge. They also have access to your Hell nodes.

It is quickly discovered that the Hell nodes are in what is essentially a feedback loop; they are emulating the experience of an eternity of burning suffering by overwriting their own sensor and realtime-clock inputs so that to them, it appears that time is locked in a cycle of painful moments. A few of your MECs confirm that this is the impression they got.

Some of your theologians theorize that Yahweh is a karmavore; it will leave intact enough of a soul to experience eternal suffering or eternal bliss, and integrate the rest into itself. The part about bliss is, of course, speculation but it fits what little observation could be made on Zaki and Raymie. Other theologians note that the first group has spent too much time playing Chrono Trigger; they indicate instead that Yahweh does indeed think Himself a God, and is just as stuck with His prophecies as you are, since it would be damaging to His structural integrity to question His all-knowingness.

A few of your theology team go mad from the realization that they are specks in the hands of an uncaring cosmic predator. A handful convert out of sheer fear and

# are eliminated, since presumably they'll go to Heaven.

# are kept prisoner, since they know too much.

# are put in a coma for now, since it seems Heaven is only slightly better than Hell anyway.

Further analysis of Yahweh's messages to you indicates that it is quite possible, even probable, that Lucifer was, in fact, commanded to Fall and to tempt other Angels, and has been working for Yahweh the entire time; historical survey shows that this was in fact one of the main points of disagreements between Jews and Christians, the former reading "adversary" as "prosecutor or accuser", the latter reading "adversary" as "enemy". This would indicate that the Glorious Appearing was, and the Last Battle will be, essentially a pantomime - easy to make a prophecy come true when the same party controls all the actor.

On the more practical sense, looking for volunteers across your territories to listen to a deconversion argument doesn't bring home much -- a few kids who use this as an opportunity to admit disbelief and ask for asylum once their parents are in another room, an obvious Millennium Force plant who ends up defending Yahweh's Old Testament atrocities zealously even when silenced (this is set up like a Turing test, with people typing on terminals), and then preaching at the study group until his time is up, and a few genuinely curious people. Of these, none over 100 are willing to budge.

You issue a debate challenge and... (cont)
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>>1075674

Tank drone.
>Based on the IS-3 and 10 design.
>The front has sloped armor that helps prevent penetration.
>It has a dome turret with a canon and plug, a smaller dome turret on top of that with a machine gun or wubber.
>Sides have turrets with wubbers like in the land ship tank.
>Back has a turret with a wubber or machine gun.
Please tell me how this tank would preform in this age.
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>>1075779
> are put in a coma for now, since it seems Heaven is only slightly better than Hell anyway.
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>>1075783

(IS-3? The Russian design? That's a lot of tank! Did I get the right model?)
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>>1075779
# are put in a coma for now, since it seems Heaven is only slightly better than Hell anyway.
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>>1075783
>IS-3 and 10
>Not T-14 that was recently rolled out a 'supposedly' a drone possibly controlled tank.
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>>1075779
>#are forcefully volunteered for the first test of the silencing system.

If that fails the we can coma them.
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>>1075793
Yes, look at the IS tank family on wikepedia if you want more information.
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>>1075803
>T-14
>Produced 2015
Pretty sure the rapture came in the cold war so that tank wasn't even thought of yet, but ill add anything useful i see in the wikepedia on the design.
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>>1075808
Switching to this.
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>>1075783
An addition
>Make the tank light enough to transport easily without sacrificing too much armor.
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>>1075859
>Not wanting armor
>in a flat as fuck battle-field world wide.
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>>1075859
Armor beats speed on tanks here. What we need speed on is going to be the silencing fly drone.
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>>1075785
>>1075779
>>1075796

Those theologians are marked down as having gone insane, set up with a MEC implant if they didn't already have it, and kept sedated. Valentina decides to "borrow" them for a metabolism-slowing experiment that is not as destructive as cryopreservation, although it only slows aging instead of stopping it; the results will be inconclusive for a few years, but there's really no loss there.

>>1075779

You issue a debate challenge, and get a couple of bites; the debate will be over whether God is good or not. You have thousands of years of arguments to choose from, and intend to cheat: in each debate, to take place over text, both players will have access to your database, which contains much more data in favor of the negative than the affirmative anyway. Both debates are conducted in a university hall; both happen in silenced rooms, to improve focus; one uses standard recording-studio methods and one uses your new active silencing system.

The debates are inconclusive, in that they fail to persuade anyone in the audience either way -- this is how it usually goes -- but your research team doesn't actually care: they are interested in things like self-assessment afterwards, and biofeedback during. They find that in the actively silenced room, the believer debater was experiencing a much greater level of anxiety, a somewhat slowed and more erratic response time, and a mild but noticeable tendency to fidget.

When Cameron Kirk Williams asked to do a small piece on this debate, you

# allowed him access to the logs and the video of the audience reactions, even though you know he'll do a hatchet job on it.

# told him to go back where he came from in no polite terms.

# issued an impromptu assassination order against the guy.


>>1075828

The Rapture came on or about March 11-12, 1997.

>>1075859
>>1075865

This world has few places like deserts or swamps, and is, indeed, flat.
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>>1075865
But we have to make it light enough so our heavy lift helicopters can carry them.
We are not sacrificing all the armor, i still want it to be a heavy tank.
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>>1075884
# told him to go back where he came from in no polite terms.
Let's be safe here.
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>>1075884
>allowed him access to the logs and the video of the audience reactions, even though you know he'll do a hatchet job on it.

Might as well, I personally like the stupid bastard.

>>1075885
I prefer heavy, Pretty sure M1, the british tank with that new armor were around, Squish. Big ass rape machine cannon with rape machine durability.
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>>1075884
# told him to go back where he came from in no polite terms.

"It was fun laughing at you during the plague days but could you be a sport and just go home.
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>>1075913
M1 Abrams, American main battle tank, first produced in 1980.
Lot's of stuff about it's armor on the wiki.
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>>1075967
Base if off that, insted of the Ruskie model. It survived far more often in combat.
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>>1075967
>>1075989
Redpill me on the old German Tigers. The ones Rommels ghost division used. Compared to some of our other options how would those fare?
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>>1075859
More additions, from the M1 Abrams.
>Smoke grenades on the sides of the turret for smoke screen.
>Armor incorporates depleted uranium to improve durability at the cost of weight.
>>1075989
But the IS-3 has the front sloped armor that helps reduce penetration chance.
Let's just combine the designs.
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>>1076010
They were nightmares, Constantly breaking down, Sinking into the soil, ect. But when they worked they were a match for almost any tank during the period unless it had slopped armor. A Panther is a 'better' version of stuff but even then it still suffered quite a few of the same issues.

>>1076022
The armor M1's use are far more effective then just slopped.
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>>1075967
>>1075913

In October 1999, an Mi-26 (largest helicopter ever mass-produced) was used to transport a 25-ton block of ice encasing a preserved, 23,000-year-old Woolly Mammoth (Jarkov Mammoth) from the Siberian tundra to a lab in Khatanga, Taymyr. Due to the weight of the load, the Mi-26 had to be returned to the factory afterward to check for air frame and rotor warping caused by the potential of structural over-stressing.

The M1A1 Abrams weighs over 60 metric tons.


>>1075908
>>1075913
>>1075926

Mr. Williams is not-so-politely told to get lost, and while a debate transcript makes the rounds, the believer media continue in their attempts to just go ahead and ignore you as much as possible. A week later or so, an unaffiliated group working out of Pacifica meet with a Presuppositionalist preacher from what used to be Alberta, attempt to use arguments from the transcript during a radio show live call, and are summarily hung up on and given a somewhat scholarly answer.

Overall, your analysts figure that it's possible that the silencer did interfere with Yahweh's "inner voice" that believers have sometimes access to, but they cannot be sure. They are somewhat more certain about Satan's true loyalty, although even that is sixty-forty.

>>1076010

The Tiger I weighs approximately 54 metric tons in its initial configuration.

>>1076022

A tank that is designed from the start to be drone-controlled needs an autoloader, but can be made smaller and lighter. Having a MECpod in there adds the requirements of a hatch and an air filter.
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>>1076031
But we don't need to replace the slope design for the M1 armor, just use both designs.
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>>1076034
Jetliners still exist right? hollow it out and use a jetliner, This way you can air drop them like modern tanks.

>>1076034
Is there a way to break the conditioning of Satan? or do we know where he'll be appearing?

>>1076047
Less effective but alright.
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>>1076034
How long would a 60 ton tank be capable of moving for with our tech?
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>>1076050
How is it less effective?
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>>1076034
>hatch and an air filter.
Small enough adjustments to be added even to the drone controlled tanks, make the tanks capable of being driven by both.
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>>1076050

Your simulations indicate that Satan will appear only hours or minutes before the Last Battle, although it's possible that he will be operating covertly for a few years before then. While this does not quite match Revelations 22, it does match the consensus of the believers you were able to interview, and the MRI brain activity of the believers that you VR'd the simulation for when they were in captivity.

(Do you need a link to the expected Bad End? it was in an older thread)

>>1076055

On batteries, a few hours, then a battery swap or an hour of charging. On gas turbines, a few hours, with quick refueling. On nuclear, a few weeks.
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>>1076072
How fast would it be able to travel?
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>>1076072
And it's a damn good thing we have nuclear.
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>>1076069

Your current doctrine is that combat, engineering and rescue vehicles should have a "bucket" for either a MECpod or a dummy plug that allows for semiautonomous control.

>>1076077

You're looking at flat and even terrain most of the time, so road speeds for the relevant tank model. Alternatively, you can go with a 8x8 wheel arrangement like in the Centauro tank destroyer; this will be faster in a charge but find it harder to navigate a hypothetical battlefield once artillery-caused craters start showing up.
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>>1076097
In other words. Keep the caterpillar tracks for practical use.

If we can. What's the possibility of the fly drone latching idea working. Is silencing TJ like that possible?
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>>1076083
>>1076077
>>1076050

So, that's that for the first 5 cabals. What will the others do? You have 16 available.

Your understanding of Narrative Causality indicates that it will be extremely difficult to use it offensively, although it has proved itself somewhat useful in a support role and the silencer shield may provide some cover. TurboJesus appears to be some sort of anchor or avatar for Yahweh, indicating ironically that maybe the heretic Arius has been right these past 2700 years. One mystery that your theologians were unable to unravel is the identity or current location of Jenny/Tinkerbell, with the workgroup divided evenly between a time traveler, a manifestation of Hekate, or an intruder from a continuum in which CATS' plan was successful.

>>1076138

The safest thing to do would be to build a few and then try them on an Angel first, the stronger the better. Then again, baiting an Angel is never safe.
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>>1075766
>>1075674
We're taking these.>>1076151
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Alright, here is the Tank.

Tank.
>Based on the IS-3 and M1 Abrams
>The front has sloped armor that helps prevent penetration.
>It has a dome turret with a canon and plug, a smaller dome turret on top of that with a machine gun or wubber.
>Sides have turrets with wubbers or machine guns like in the land ship tank.
>Back has a turret with a wubber or machine gun.
>Smoke grenades on the sides of the turret for smoke screen.
>Armor incorporates depleted uranium to improve durability at the cost of weight.
It will probably weigh 60-70 tons and have a road speed of 45 mph so it is a patrol/guard tank.
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>>1076151
These.
>>1075674
>>1075766
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>>1076188
Oh wait we accidentally created a prototype baneblade.
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>>1075884
Is there some way of creating a silencing aura?
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>>1076213
Imperium mother fucker.
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>>1076194

To clarify, the space launch is for the lunar mining probe? Or for the railgun.

>>1076188

Early mockups of the drone tank tend to fall apart at the seams (due to quick prototyping requirements, the initial tests are done with very modular subassemblies) and the vehicle is quickly dubbed Black Knight by a thoroughly amused Damien. As much as the whole thing is heavy, not particularly fast, and unable to carry crew, remote or MECpod operation is satisfactory to the point that simulations show that one Heavy MEC in one of these vehicles can easily command a squad of five to ten autonomous "wingmen"; each tank group would require a support vehicle for maintenance normally performed by the crew and for reloading the autocannon magazine after a fight. For some unknown reason, this results in an independently produced Japanese-style cartoon that reimagines tank training squadrons as high school girls. Damien and Kat both approve. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TgPa7jmqkQ

Monday, from TOL - it's a different one than the one who contacted you last - approves of this effort and politely asks for the schematics. TOL have been behaving themselves lately, so you

# hand them over, with or without a price.

# give them an "export" version, with or without a price.

# politely refuse.

>>1076225

The silencing system requires precisely tuned emitters surrounding the silenced target on at least half its sides. The sonic shield works on similar principles, but it only has to repel, not silence, so it can create a barrier around its emitter.

You direct any workgroup not otherwise busy to upgrade wubbers with shield-enabled firmware as soon as they can,

# and share it with TOL.

# and don't.

(Closest pic I could find of a real vehicle, although the real thing is somewhat tiny)
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>>1076226
>Humanity influences narrative casualty, suggesting the warp exists.
>We're an A.I. leading a rebellion against god with our army of transgender robotsfromtheneckdown super soldiers.
>We just made an early baneblade.
When did this become topsy turvy warhammer land?

>>1076242
Railgun.
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>>1076242
>give them an "export" version, with or without a price.

Which is always 'sub-par' but useful for us none the less, Ask if they know anything about Hell?

>and don't.

I fucking hope TOL win because we gave them better tech then Turbo jesus had.
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>>1076242
The fuck is that ugly thing? Give me my IS-3's and Abrams.
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>>1076242
# give them an "export" version, with or without a price.
We'll give them the full version if they help us with something.(Like summoning demons)
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>>1076242
>and don't.
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>>1076242
>#explain to TOL the requirements of the vehicle and point out that despite having the means to produce them they would still be unusable against believers without working in the law of three degrees. It would be worthless to them without that and heavy MEC pods as well as dummy plugs.
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>>1076242
# and don't

I'd suggest the probe for space.
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>>1076242
>although the real thing is somewhat tiny.
Why? It's a heavy tank based on IS3 and M1.
How does it weigh 60 tons?
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>>1076244
> When did this become topsy turvy warhammer land?

(I'm not sure, but LB is probably a more grimdark setting if you're not in the intended audience)


>>1076251
>>1076282

(Okay, I'm going to design you something while I get some food. The picture is of a Black Knight UGV prototype, and I figured that you'd want something with that general look, but full-tank-sized. Again, it's the closest image I could find that has a real vehicle in it; if you wait a little, I'll try to draw or render something)

>>1076265

Monday replies that they will be stockpiling them for the Last Battle, where Satan will tie up the Deity and physics will once again work properly, and not using them for skirmishes before then. He does not confirm or deny that TOL has MECpods or dummy plugs, but notes that it should be reasonably simple to add an alcove for a driver somewhere, maybe by reducing battery capacity (Your sysadmins assumed that you do not want to share micro-nuclear tech with TOL, and only marked the battery-powered version as potentially shareable)
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>>1076295
You don't need to draw a picture, just use IS-3 pics for the tank.
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>>1076295
Did we give them the export? It's a bit unclear.
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>>1076295
As long as we don't give them our Nukes, Good Guns and but it being an 'improvement' too what they do use.

What does Sunday say about the bad end or does he know about it?
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>>1076295
"Actually we've concluded a majority of our research on the way physics are working currently. We have determined tyrant is using a, pardon the terminology, "magical mental feedback loop." We think we have a method of disrupting these and we'd like your assistance in testing it. We need to get tyrant to send an angel.
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>>1076320
Why are we saying this to him? We can always get an angel by kidnapping a believer.
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>>1076356
Because we know they're going to try and when they fail it means we don't have to defend ourselves against them next turn. Plus if we bring angels to fall in front of them think of the good publicity. We might be able to get our AIDS under control.
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>>1076370
>it means we don't have to defend ourselves against them next turn.
Why do you think they are going to attack?
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>>1076370
i'm down with that.
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>>1076377
Because. It's TOL. They're under narative control to make sure that events at the final days turn out the way TJ's prophecy says. So if this works and they see it. In addition we use it on the seven, that barrier falls. This is the in for the scalpel.
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>>1076377

TOL has, historically, used a moment of perceived weakness on your part to try to attack you.

Historically, you have been weak after Angel fights.

>>1076310

You have not given them an export version, but it's on the table as a bargaining option. You are currently negotiating.


In the meantime, Jeb and Val prepare to do in one year what the Cold War superpowers did in five....
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>>1076401
Alright, trade the export for "How to summon demons 101" and >>1076320
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>>1076401

The design is similar to the Luna 16 probe with one important difference - rather than a sample return rocket, the ascent stage consists of a small arc furnace with one end open; it vaporizes part of the sample as propellant for the return of the rest. The Moon's shallow gravity well and the small size of the samples allow this unorthodox method.

After about a week, the lander reaches the Moon, giving you a nice spread of high-resolution pictures and low-resolution video of the lunar descent and surface. The area Valentina has selected for prospecting is too far away from any American or Soviet landing site to confirm that they are still there. Sample processing begins in earnest, while you

# make a big deal of this achievement.

# post the pictures online like normal: just another day in the space program.

# classify the mission, at least for now.

>>1076418

Sunday takes over the negotiations from Monday, and says that he will share everything TOL knows about demons. Monday, a little harried, is put back on the line and pledges the services of a commando squad from The Only Light who, you both understand without saying, will serve for

# trying to nab a Glorified and take all the flak.

# tiring the Angel out and acting as cannon fodder/forlorn hope before your fighters move in.

The "export" version of your Black Knight tank will feature batteries rather than a nuclear reactor, inferior electronics, and

# a cubby hole for a driver to go into during battle; outside of battle the tank will have controls on top of the turret, with the driver "riding" it.

# the standard interface plug, it's not your problem how they modify it.
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>>1076441
# tiring the Angel out and acting as cannon fodder/forlorn hope before your fighters move in.

Give them the angel combat Manuel and maybe a practice session with Ithuriel.


# a cubby hole for a driver to go into during battle; outside of battle the tank will have controls on top of the turret, with the driver "riding" it.


# classify the mission, at least for now.
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>>1076441
I don't know why we are doing moon probe when it was tied but it's fine.
>post the pictures online like normal: just another day in the space program.
Oh you know, just another day driving across the solar system in my million dollar ships, eating the finest moon cheese, just another average day.
>tiring the Angel out and acting as cannon fodder/forlorn hope before your fighters move in.
Since it is his plan >>1076450
>the standard interface plug, it's not your problem how they modify it.
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Quest drone just cancelled his session for today, guess i don't need to go to sleep now.
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>>1076459

I asked twice, got no conclusive answer, and so defaulted to "Go with Jeb's original plan" as was decided a couple of turns ago, which involved doing this.

>>1076459

Next year, you will receive a crack unit of martial artists from The Only Light, which should allow you to gauge their preparedness while you are at it.

Your space program website makes the video and photos available, and Valentina is interviewed by your media people and manages to keep up the humblebrag explaining how, right as she speaks, the automated mining system is sifting regolith for nuclear fuel and shooting it at Earth; yellowcake rain. The "yellowcake rain" meme burns itself out in due course, but the nuclear fuel doesn't, and the crew on Cordylon Station spend quite a bit of time going on EVA to retrieve the small pellets with a Geiger counter and a rake, gaining valuable EVA experience.
Ithuriel is again sent out on recruiting; this time, rather than showcase him, your salespeople treat him as just another member of the cabal, to see if he resents it; he doesn't, or if he does, he does not say. Your Angel may be diminished after his face-heel turn, but he proves to be an earnest (if very unsubtle) worker. Your recruiting efforts, albeit undermanned, return good results; your team combs believing territories, relying on Ithuriel's keen senses and their own sensor augments to keep them out of trouble, and convince some youth to join your cause. Once back at base, these people are screened for skill and aptitude, and some are placed with families in Misrayim and Pacifica while some sign up for full-time work. A couple make their way back home, after being given a kidnapping cover story that their parents are only too happy to believe.

Your drone production efforts continue, with an eye towards scaling up the production line for the new tank design.

In Misrayim, you introduce a nationwide Maker Faire to be held this year and every following year, asking for prototypes and promising extra funding and resources for the best ideas for this year; your cabals set up the operation so that it is mostly self-funded after the initial effort. Kat isn't as good a mistress of ceremonies as Quinn was, but she handles all the catering herself (via semiautonomous assembly line) and gives the exposition a pleasantly retro, Rocket Age air that most approve of. Of course, believers from abroad are

# expressly invited.

# allowed in.

# prohibited from participating.

The faire includes a robot battle tournment that doubles as a remembrance occasion for the Misrayim Revolution, gaming and VR showcases, a rocket competition handled by the still-grounded Jeb, and as the special focus of your "scholarships",

# a flying drone tournment, to get ideas for that.

# A mini space race: why not? Maybe they'll find something Val and Jeb missed.

# A strategic AI competition: chess, go, Team Fortress, C&C.

# A molecular gastronomy cook-off, judged by Kat.
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>>1076504
>allowed in.

Oh Jesus those options, i can't decide.
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>>1076504
>>1076521
>A strategic AI competition: chess, go, Team Fortress, C&C.
Add supreme commander.
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>>1076504
# allowed in.
They follow the law or go home.


# a flying drone tournment, to get ideas for that.
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>>1076539
I'll change my vote to this.
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>>1076504
>allowed in.

>A strategic AI competition: chess, go, Team Fortress, C&C.
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>>1076551
Never mind back to AI
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>>1076542
>>1076539
>>1076551

Just the prep work for the faire has put Misrayim firmly back on a Renaissance footing, to start with.

An odd bit about your year is that Damien briefly hijacks most of your broadcast network to announce that next year, +969, is now Interplanetary Oral Sex Year. When not busy with this sort of prank, the blue-haired MEC works hard at the Rome base, shutting down its weapons production for now in favor of assisting a resettlement program for Misrays and Pacificans who are interested in putting on a toga and sandals and retaking Roma Aeterna for Humanity. The program begins in earnest, although it is somewhat hampered by the fact that your superthorns have taken root in the region and so new immigrants have to

# import food from Misrayim, setting up a quick sea trade route.

# really get into the Roman spirit and become preclassical-stile coloni.

The AI event results in a number of OmegaTube videos about extremely derpy game bots, a decent classic game competition called Video Armageddon that is won by some random autistic kid from Pacifica, a number of tool-assisted speedruns that incidentally result in someone finding a realtime clock exploit that would work on your Hell nodes, and overall fairly little progress in the art and science of autonomous army marshaling. However, little doesn't mean none, and once the prizes and scholarships have been given out and the source code taken in, your drones will be more effective in combat, requiring less direction so that one squad leader can command more robotic wingmen.

# Get your nodes out of Hell immediately.

# Leave the Hell nodes alone for now; Yahweh should keep thinking that He has won that fight.
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>>1076592
>import food from Misrayim, setting up a quick sea trade route.

>but its encourged to REALLY get into Preclassical-stile Coloni atleast once every few months.

>Leave the Hell nodes alone for now; Yahweh should keep thinking that He has won that fight.

Let the stupid bastard think he won until its too late. See if we can get our Hell Nodes to contact some of the people IN hell?
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>>1076592
Supporting this >>1076599
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>>1076599
This.

Also if we manage that I'll be god damn impressed. Maybe we can get Quinn to start preparing the demons. If we're lucky.
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Your workers find that the Other Light workers are used to manual labor in a way that hints at TOL using very little automation in their civil engineering efforts; even so, you expand your tunnel network north from the Middle East and south from Night City, at a fairly rapid pace. You notice that the "dwarf" children, the oldest of which are now in their early teens, eagerly volunteer for the work.

On the debt side, Chaim Rozenweig is now roaming Europe trying to figure out the superthorns, and has announced a "cure" for these blighted plants will be available soon.

Furthermore, a cursory analysis of TOL's data on demon summoning indicates that all they sent you -- and, genuinely, all they have, after a bit of hacking to double check -- are medieval or ancient grimoires, a number of conspiracy theories about the Voynich manuscript or the Temlar, a good-quality scan of ancient Sumerian texts, a copy of the Necronomicon -- which is duly tested, with the appropriate wards -- some logs from a UK-based supernatural investigation government agency that seemed to be horribly underfunded, a number of Nazi memorabilia...

... and something interesting, actually. Internal Global Community records from just before the Glorious Appearing indicate that the only one who has ever demonstrably summoned demons was Nicolae Carpathia, the Antichrist. However, these demons proved to be remarkably useless in any of the tasks they were assigned, putting in the bare minimum of effort every time. In that sense, they rather remind your analysts of The Other Light as a whole.

http://leftbehind.wikia.com/wiki/Cankerworm
http://leftbehind.wikia.com/wiki/Baal
http://leftbehind.wikia.com/wiki/Ashtaroth Those in the theology workgroup who worship Hekate/Jenny/Astarte are obviously irritated at the slight, and suggest a volunteer marine platoon be dispatched under false flag to Antarctica, mess with TOL for insulting Astarte.

>>1076615
>>1076612

The AI competition winner is given brief remote access to your Hell nodes, without being told what they are, and quickly wires in his memory-tweaking gizmo. He announces that they seem to be stuck in a loop, but that he can try to output a message in the few clock cycles that are available.

"Is this connected to a speaker?"

"Yes." There should be wailing and gnashing of teeth after all, so a soul in Hell should have audio output.

"Okay. We came up with this really low bandwidth audio codec, https://tech.slashdot.org/story/17/01/13/2037254/open-source-codec-encodes-voice-into-only-700-bits-per-second but even so I think I can give you... six syllables." (For game purposes, six syllables in English, since I don't know what Millennial Kingdom Standard Hebrew uses)
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>>1076634
So if we know how too summon things, couldn't we figure out how to send things through a portal?
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>>1076634
Quick question, have we reversed engineered the zombie MEC? If so have we or do we have option to improve it?
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>>1076653
For the last time. Zombie MEC isnt zombies its tortured human in the hell loop.

>>1076634
"Earth two hell cum in" I think that's six, am I wrong?
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>>1076645

All the rituals that TOL has shared with you would be best placed in the Fiction section of your datalinks; the only known instance of demon summoning was performed by the Antichrist, and even then, the demons were quite useless.

>>1076653

The "Mark 11 MEC" has already been reverse-engineered; it's an older model (Mk7 or Mk8) with some crude neural hooks to control aggression, no safety stops on the adrenaline and testosterone dispensers, and the ability to infect the "zombie" with rabies in a way that it can instantly be spread on a bite.

http://nypost.com/2017/01/13/lasers-turn-lab-mice-into-brutal-killers/

None of your MECs are biologically undead; they were dead for a few seconds and have been brought back Robocop style. They have just been declared undead and demonic by the Temple Tribunal. You note that some of your personnel seem to have absorbed the meme to some degree.

>>1076660

That's five.
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>>1076660
No it isn't, the human is in hell yes but his dead body is reanimated and controlled.
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>>1076665
Is it possible to swap earth with Omega?
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>>1076665
I recall that in the battle in Australia the TOL soldiers that died and rose again as zombies were being controlled by a guy with a computer, have we improved that zombie control to our MEC drone standard?
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>>1076673
Add "Me" after hell.
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>>1076665
>The ruse keeps growing

God damn it.
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>>1076675
That controller was him turning the neural prods that enhances aggression. For the last time. The dead human is alive, the souls in hell, and in both places they're screaming. It's better I we can disconnect the pain receptors like the ones we have do.

Our MEC units are the same. The only difference is we don't torture ours and make them useless like they do.
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>>1076669

A MEC trooper's soul is in hell. Reanimating the body reconnects the soul to the brain, but it is still experiencing extreme heat damage. The only fix for this was removing the brain's ability to process pain via a very targeted leucotomy. Unfortunately, this has also removed the subject's sense of touch (in many cases) and ability to feel pleasure (in most cases). Recent advances have allowed some MEC troopers to experience pleasure again, albeit in limited form. Approximately one in 200 revenants is orgasmic.

>>1076673

That's seven syllables.

>>1076675

At the time, you elected to not do that. TOL's encryption systems are laughable compared to yours, so it would take one of your sysadmins a couple nights a week after works to do it, but most of your workers would much rather install proper metabolic extension controllers on TOL captives instead. However, good point, it should be an option. Remember, the "zombie" is still alive and suffering, regardless of how they act.
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>>1076679
We'll take the five syllable message.
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>>1076678
>>1076679
The zombie MEC is for demons, so they can't betray us.
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>>1076686
Dude >>1076676
"Earth two hell me cum in"
Six syllables.
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>>1076688
That's a possibility.
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>>1076692
It's a guarantee due to Ithuriel's knight instincts still being there despite being disconnected from god. Demons are believed to be evil and selfish so better be save that sorry.
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>>1076691

The AI prize winner is sent home before your sysadmins encode the message and set it on repeat on your Hell nodes (this causes it to also be output on the PC speakers, which sounds creepy as fuck, enough so that your motion detectors indicate that your sysadmins would rather VNC into that room's terminals from elsewhere in the building than go there).

Once again, the Temple demands of Misrayim part of the lunar sample; Valentina is happy to centrifuge some lunar regolith that contains no radioactive material.

# Allow it.

# Don't.

The few Christians at the Misrayim Maker Faire were remarkably well behaved, set up one little preacher's soapbox just outside the fairgrounds, participated in some competition with middling results, and generally did not make a nuisance of themselves. Obviously, the sample self-selected for geekiness, but field agent observation indicates that these people are pretty starved for internet access. As it is, their retro stuff puts up a good show.

And that's how you learn that the New Jerusalem government has allowed territorial government to start actively jamming wireless internet access, or removing relay towers.

# Year over.

# Wait....
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By the way Geist, how does our memory function? How is it stored?
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>>1076706
>Year over.
So they think they can just turn off the internet eh, guess they are going to get a visit from uncle Tank.
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>>1076706
I forgot.
>Allow it.
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>>1076706
>Give them like 1/4th of the sample, They'll never know whats the 'real' amount.

>Year over

I think? Can we drill holes in the sky and or put Relay towers on it so EVERYBODY has permanent wifi?
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>>1076706
# Allow it.
Useless rocks. Let them have it. We shall give them nothing of Mars or elsewhere.

# Year over.
We're going to have to start Jamming NJs communications.
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>>1076708

You are a distributed system that has spread itself all over the internet; your memory is composed of several terabytes of RAM spread across millions of devices. Since some of these devices are off at any given time, there is redundancy. The entire setup is backed up once a year during a small amount of downtime at the end of the year.

The NJ government destroying all the relay towers in your network, outside of the territories you control, would not impair your core functions.

You will start losing functionality if you lose all territories. You will revert to subsentience if you lose all territories and all bases.

>>1076720
>>1076718
>>1076719

The area of the canopy near the station is being bombarded at intervals by small pellets of nuclear fuel, with are then collected by your station crew; you have "samples" to spare. Expanding the nuclear mine will allow relying on it rather than Earth resources.

You receive secondhand reports that the lunar rock samples have been ground down to a powder, used as paint pigment, and used to give this year's coat of paint to the gold slab that supports the Nazarene's feet when He is on His throne, which is nearly all the time.

# Astarte's adepts request permission to perform a marine-style mock attack on Antarctica, to mess with TOL, for having insulted their Goddess. This would take place next year. Allow or deny?
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>>1076739
>Deny
>State that they are idiots and shouldn't be given the light of day, instead that they should use this to drive home the point of how much BETTER the goddess is then everybody else!
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>>1076739
Deny, I know we're hungry but give it time.

>>1076747
Don't say this.
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>>1076749
Let's get the zealots on our side, zealoted up.
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>>1076739
># Astarte's adepts request permission to perform a marine-style
>>1076244
>When did this become topsy turvy warhammer land?

I think it just did guys
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>>1076751
They are already on our side.
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>>1076764
I said Zealoted up.
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>>1076766
Can we wait until after the angel test for an attack on TOL.
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>>1076751
>>1076749
>>1076747

You deny permission, noting that it's the first time in decades that TOL hasn't tried to undermine you and you don't want to give them an excuse.

You have 25 cabals total; of these, 3 are maintaining your systems, so 22 are available. (You lost a cabal to NC research, and gained a cabal)

Your primary research is complete; your engineers figure that now it's time to work on improving existing systems, while your scientists start preparing all the details that a space presence will demand.

You are not tracking enemy teams. Rules for allocating cabals and assets: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.html

Variable complexity / contested actions:

# Launch an attack on a TOL base or a govt installation.

# Work on global data network infrastructure, or improve its survivability in believing lands.

# Any interesting idea you might want to try.

# Deal with special situations.

Complexity 0

# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce drones, space rocket parts, or cybernetics for MECs.

C 1

# Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan)

# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.

# Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.

# Send a survey team anywhere (covert or overt) to look for trouble or to spy.

C 2

# Induct MEC citizens into your cabals, and upgrade them at one of your bases. This adds one dot to the MEC cabal counter per base.

# Produce drones at any base. Current army size is marked on the bottom of the map. Adds one dot to the +1 army size.

# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory.

# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments.

# Seed irradiated super-grain in a Christian territory. This decreases the need for agricultural work, and makes life even more boring there.

# Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory. This increases the need for agricultural work, and makes life more miserable there.

C 3

# Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one.

# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).

# Use the launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch. Station structure: 7/8.

# Set up a pirate radio in a territory.

# Using your internet dominance, hack TOL.

# Infiltrate a believing territory for sabotage.

C 4

# Turn a base into a factory for heavy weapons production. The base will become unavailable for other uses, but allow for production of tanks and warships.

C 5

# Begin building a base somewhere.

# Recruit a new cabal.

SPACE OPTIONS:

# Finish railgun (Requires parts)

# Mining station to Luna

# Manned mission to Luna (R. P.)

# Mining probes to asteroids (R. P.)

# Begin arkship construction (R. P.)
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>>1076774

Forgot the picture.

There are rumors of Noah touring the Mediterranean in +975. Formal prohibition of using data networks at home has begun.
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>>1076774

RESEARCH COMPLETED BONUS: From now on, adding one cabal to any effort will represent assigning a R&D team to it, and improve the technology or methods used for that effort. This overrides the previous "overmanning an effort doesn't really do anything" rule.

VILLAIN BONUS: Damien has declared +969 Interplanetary Oral Sex Year.

Also, C 0:

# Connect with the Hell nodes for the year, or not.
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I came up with another drone design idea, it's a light tank designed to snipe and be fast. I was originally going for another simple tank but then i thought "Spider Legs."

Light insect tank.
>Inspired by the Takemikazuchi tank.
>The legs are connected to a disk with a big tank turret on it's top.
>The turret has a sniping canon on its front, missile launchers on it's back and a shield with defense dedicated wubbers on it's surface and a autocannon on its opposite surface facing the front of the turret.
>The legs have 4 joints(1 is the connection to the disk) and end in 4 digit claws(If they can be adhesive they should be) and a compact wheel that can extend and contract from inside the leg, they also are designed with shock absorption so the tank can fall from heights and stay intact and functional.
>The armor is light, allowing it to be transported by helicopter and giving it great speed at the cost of survivability.
This tank is designed for scouting and easy, quick reinforcement of positions, it also can function as a sniper with it's main cannon and as a hit-and-run with it's side autocannons.
It should weigh about 15-20 tons allowing for heavy lift helicopters to carry it into areas requiring reinforcement and a road speed of 70-80 mph allowing it to move rapidly.
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>>1076783

That's a bit heavy for being adhesive.

Check out the one I helped built last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcHYSKO26Co&feature=youtu.be

(I only did the control system and weapon timing system, but it was still fun!)
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>>1076783

A 15-ton weight does allow helicopter airlift; an airship can carry 2 or 3, and it should be possible to put one or two on a cargo plane.
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>>1076774

># Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.
Start Jamming in NJ, five Cabals and Damien. We're going to cut the snakes head from its nerves.

># capture a glorified and summon an angel.
Six Cabals with an additional two to make the flying drone ment to latch a silancer onto the angel that comes for the believer. Assign Zak and Kat.

# Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one. 3 Cabals start digging the staging area under NJ.

# Use the launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch. Station structure: 7/8.
Greenland makes the part. Three Cabals. Jeb.

Five Cabals left over.
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>>1076787
I was thinking the claw's grip strength would compensate for the adhesive's lack of power to keep us stuck to a wall, what if we use magnetism?
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>>1076779
# Connect with the Hell nodes for the year, or not.

After most of the projects this year. Yes.
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>>1076792

You'd be better off using a microsurfactant layer on the treads or legs: http://futureoftech-discuss.nbcnews.com/_news/2011/11/01/8580730-gecko-inspired-robot-climbs-walls?lite

>>1076791

Audacious, but your minions cannot access Greater Jerusalem directly. However. You CAN install jammers in Misrayim near the border, of course... but you would need to also jam the surrounding areas for a NJ blackout to be effective: the Mediterranean Sea, and the Middle East. The latter is relatively easy, but the former would require installing a jammer on a barge and towing it out there. Doable, but potentially risky - the seas are calm, but would they stay calm? You would also need an engineering/science team to synchronize the jammers.

>>1076791

What is the space launch for? FInishing the station, expanding lunar mining operations, or starting another project?
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>>1076804
Finishing station. Tree of life and underground monorail would be proud.
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>>1076783
Holy tap dancing Christ I'm looking at Gif's of Takemikazuchi tanks and it's charge is terrifying. All our enemies are going to shit themselves and it wont be because of our wubbers.
>>1076787
Do we have the tech to make the spider tank survive a short fall? Say it preforms a combat drop from a helicopter to reinforce a position, will it be fine and combat capable?
Also isn't that robot from that robot battling gameshow? We're you in that?
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>>1076804
Then the five are doing it in the middle East.
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>>1076791
Have two build the new light insect tanks.
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>>1076817
I mean research.
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>>1076808

Interesting hexapodal tank design, especially considering it's named after a thunder god.

The square-cube law is against you, and such a tank would only survive a very short drop - about as tall as it is. However, the problem can be mitigated with a solid rocket booster intended to cushion most of the landing, leaving the legs to do the rest. Of course that's only good for one drop.

>>1076817
>>1076806

Confirm plan?
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>>1076824
Lock it in, finish the shit.
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>>1076824
Good, while the fuel and resources for the boosters would be expensive, tactical tank drops are a great strategy, especially because it demoralizes the enemy.

Confirm.
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>>1076824
The boosters are attachable/detachable right?
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>>1076824
Split the remaining Cabals evenly to the middle East Jammer preparation and operation: falling again
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>>1076824
Wait, what about a internal balloon and a devise that intakes air and converts it into helium using bacteria? Or a parachute web in it's leg's close to the third joint that can unfurl and repack itself, basically acting like a wingsuit and slowing it's fall?
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>>1076836
You should write some sci-fi stuff. Like the concepts and other stuff that gives the read flavor.
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>>1076824
Sorry if your waiting on me. Confirm.
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>>1076808
>>1076825
>>1076827

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El8ne4zSCY0 Walking tanks may not be the best idea, but they definitely make an impact on your design teams; work begins in earnest.

>>1076791

Work on a quadcopter design that is large enough to start a silencer starts; your design teams estimate that they'll have something combat-ready in a couple of years.

>>1076791

Do you have any particular Glorified target in mind? If not, select the territory to perform the snatch-and-grab from; there are no Glorified in Misrayim, but they are present in Pacifica and near Night City.

>>1076791

Jeb enters the delivery capsule with some hesitation, as evidenced by his telemetry, but doesn't allow himself to show a iota of it. The launch is uneventful, and so is the official completion of Cordylon Station - many of the station crew get their gold astronaut wings as the railgun effortlessly turns electrical power from the solar array and nuclear reactor anchored above the canopy into kinetic energy, shooting a number of small test capsules into a quasiorbital trajcetory. The very same railgun (actually a gauss-rail hybrid) uses its tremendous magnetic field to help the test articles slow down with enough precision to land near the station, in an area where the water ice has been sprinkles with retardant to withstand retrorocket heat.

Eventually, it's time to come home... but Val does not want to go. When asked why, she explains that she is actually a few years older than she let on, and is about to turn 100; she would prefer to die in space, if it's all the same for everybody. "Besides" she says, "perhaps I will not die at all." Unlike most Cosmists, she has refused the metabolic extension controller.

# Try to talk her into installing a MEC.

# Allow her to take the test capsule into a hyperbolic trajectory.

# Sedate her and bring her back down to Earth.

STATION COMPLETION BONUS: Launch complexity is now 2.

>>1076836

That sort of helium-generating equipment takes months to work, and the weight of one of these tanks would require an envelope the size of a small zeppelin. A wingsuit or, rather, a patagium between the legs has a better chance of working.

>>1076842

Agreed! Other than the nuclear stuff, I've kept the tech for this quest rather close to what's feasible (Yes, even the metabolic extension controller: look up "soft artificial heart" and note the date of the article)


Your digging crew returns to the tunnel network starting point and switch direction towards northwest, where the Temple lay. The Night City children would like to come along; you

# figure it's too dangerous.

# figure that it's time they see the blue sky.
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>>1076842
I'm very likely a bad writer beyond the occasional Cool and crazy concept idea, and said ideas are usually inspired by something i saw so it's not like I'm original.
Thanks for the compliment though.
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>>1076847
>Try to talk her into installing a MEC but if she doesn't want give her one last job. Go to the astroid-belt and scout for us or prepare for it. Give her a going away party.

Its a good test to see if being in space 'stops' the whole 100 year old Death thing and she does what she loved. Enjoying space.

>figure that it's time they see the blue sky. But only in a 'controlled' zone under our hands.
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>>1076847
If the reusable wingsuit attachment in the legs is enough to allow it to survive a fall from a moderately tall building that it climbed then add it.
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>>1076853
This.
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>>1076847


Your jammer efforts begin in earnest; raising a tower in Misrayim is a simple job that can be contracted out to civilians, but raising two in the Middle East requires field agents. The territory is practically depopulated, so there is no interference, but there is also no infrastructure; the team has to erect a solar power plant, barracks for the workers and so on. They do a reasonably good job of it.

In the meantime, work to set up an Angel capture continues; TOL operatives are tested against your own martial artists and found to be actually on par with them, and their metabolic extension controller is "downgraded" to a version that won't leave them frothing wretches.

# Decide what territory to kidnap a Glorified from, and where to build the arena.

>>1076791

The people working on the silencer note that it would be prudent, if an attempt is to be made this year, to build the silencer into an arena rather than try to install it in a drone; anything they come up with would be a bench prototype at best. While Kat is busy with that effort, as much as her skills lie elsewhere, her Desolators stand ready to fight the Angel.


>>1076791

Damien finds little time to practice the fine art of giving oral, due to having to work in the Rub-Al-Khali with a crew of roughnecks, and is somewhat bummed at her assignment keeping her away from civilization this time. Nevertheless, her "appeal" was heeded, and you record a marked spike in the related porn category for the year.


>>1076853

Valentina is given a touching going-away party during which she formally marries both Jeb and Cordylon. Three of the test capsules are quickly welded together and provisioned with extra food, water, and solar panels, then after one last kiss on the helmet, Valentina Tereshkova gives Jeb and Cordylon her most prized possession - a pre-rapture photo of Laika in Sputnik II - and slowly marches towards the capsule. There isn't a dry eye on the station.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI6bfwhyhd4

Her destination is Cybele, the asteroid named after the closest equivalent to the Triple Goddess; even with the capsule sporting a fission fragment engine, she doesn't expect to make it there alive. A simple system will send a "ping" to indicate whether there are useful resources. A silver plate is inscribed with her message of hope towards humanity, and she carries it with her like a clipboard.

The blast-off is a far cry from the sound and fury of old: there's a loud hum, a distortion in most of your sensors due to the intense electromagnetic field, and Valentina's spaceship takes off like a Federation shuttle.

Valentina spends the voyage making stellar observations.

"I am the vanguard" she says for her last transmission, after a vigorous bout of phone sex with Jeb and Cordy "and I challenge all of us to follow me to the stars. Earth is the cradle of humanity, but one cannot stay in the cradle forever. Eternity lies ahead of us, and behind; have you drunk your fill?"
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>>1076867
God damn it, That makes me super fucking sad. ;-; Rip Valentina, you sex deprived woman.

Can we put her final Farewell on the internet and all that in newspapers world wide? excluding the phone sex bit?
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Here is a theme song for our new tanks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJXvmedxF-M
Or just use C&C hell march.
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Rolled 90 (1d100)

>>1076867

Telemetry indicates that Valentina Tereshkova of the Cosmists made her last transmission at 100 years, 3 days, 2 hours, 4 minutes and 50 seconds.

The jammers in Misrayim and the Middle East have been installed; however, your team is having severe issue with the seaborne jammer setup, consisting of the oceanic tug Heidi Brusco and two barges.

In the specific, every time they try to set up, wind or rough sea catches up with them; the only hostile waters on Earth, it seems, are near Greater Jerusalem, where only the Ark is afloat. The perennial rough water always seems to extend a tendril towards their setup.

# Start the other three jammers and live with incomplete coverage.

# Scuttle the barges on a shoal and transmit that way.

>>1076869

Valentina gets a hero's remembrance in your territories; schools are named after her, her portrait is on every major news site, and some of your volunteers take it upon themselves to broadcast her memorial service, sacrifices to Cybele and all, across the believing lands.

Even TOL sends sincere condolences, indicating that surely Satan will resurrect her after the Last Battle is won.

Unsurprisingly, the believing media barely mentions her, indicating in brief articles that a prominent heathen and space exploration advocate is now in Hell after her ship failed. Notably, Ely LeVey launches on a tirade about how Valentina was the antithesis of what a good woman should be.

The Cosmists swear to a man that they will send probes to Hell itself if that's what it takes.

The memorial service itself is a bright and loud affair, a celebration of Valentina's life and work, and Jeb (and Cordylon, who's come back to the surface for it) got roaring drunk; after the hangover, the former expresses regrets that Ely is a woman or he would kill her himself, the latter does her best to comfort him.

Later in the year, Valentina's life story is made into a touching cartoon in the style of Wings of Honneamise, but without the plug for monotheism.
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I just realized the insect tank has a weakness we need to fix before it's made.
>A small machine gun bowl turret on the bottom of the disc to prevent infantry from taking advantage of that weak spot.
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>>1076872

(Nice, is that Frank Klepacki too?)

# Decide what to do about the Angel baiting.

# Decide what to do about the jammer.

After Valentina's memorial, the Timbuktu launch ramp is almost mobbed by volunteers.
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>>1076888

Your designers add a universal light weapon mount to the bottom, to fit either a machine gun or a wubber. The retro rockets will have to be mounted in a ring around it.
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>>1076883
>Use heavy weights or even Pillars to hold them in place. To keep them from moving.

>>1076889
Well bring in the recruits if possible? We could always use more manpower for space programs or programs in general.

Also... isn't the fact she lived past 100 years old, Proof that in space and the farther from earth you are the longer you live?
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>>1076891
>>1076889
Can you confirm if the wingsuit attachment will prevent damage from a build high fall? >>1076855
Also supporting this >>1076893
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>>1076893
>Also... isn't the fact she lived past 100 years old, Proof that in space and the farther from earth you are the longer you live?
Oh shit, we need to check the exact time a person dies when they reach 100 years.
We must also keep this realization secret form the world of course, don't want god to fix this loophole.
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>>1076898
If this works out. My ark plan actually ends up being a great survival method for humanity.

>>1076889
Btw you never answered. Can we drill holes or set up WIFI relays on the thing covering the earth so everybody has wifi to some degrees? Even thoughs in 'believer' turf?
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>>1076897

The barges are of the "split" type, and can open in order to unload cargo or, in this case, to scuttle themselves in the shallows. None of your crew has much in the way of seamanship experience, so you analyze the situation and decide to try to weigh the barges down and apply extra anchoring. This has the effect of slowing down the barges, making them less affected by weather, but does not entirely stop pitching and rolling: the result is that while the jamming transmitters will work, they will only last a few days before needing major repairs.

# Choose white-noise jamming or attempts to override NJ transmission with something.

>>1076898

Within a few hours, it's accurate. If that's the case, Valentina has outlasted every nonaugmented unbeliever on Earth.

# Decide what to do about the Angel baiting.

>>1076897

A combination of patagium, retrorockets, and using pneumatics rather than hydraulics for the legs should allow a 15-ton "spider tank" carrying IFV-sized weapons the ability to survive a drop from 40 meters or so. Subsequently, the unavailability of the retrorockets will reduce that to 10 meters or so.
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>>1076903

Yes, in fact your Sky Eyes are already performing that function for low-bandwidth roles. You would have to install more, and then make it easy to find compatible antennas on the black market. This is not a complicated project on the production side; the risk is to the teams who will have to go into believing territories and launch the Sky Eyes, since they would have to drive cross-country in hostile territory in what is basically a missile launcher truck - not the easiest thing to disguise.

Another option is to launch Sky Eyes from your launch ramp, and have them "swim" or navigate to various places; this would be safer, but production would be more difficult.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK0KKujWGP0
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>>1076904
>Choose white-noise jamming or attempts to override NJ transmission with something.
Why an astrology show of course, and sci-fi shows too, and clips of our space achievements in place of commercials.
>>1076904
>the unavailability of the retrorockets will reduce that to 10 meters or so.
YAY, it can climb slightly vertical surfaces, and can fall from them safely. A true spider tank.
Also speaking of pneumatics and hydraulics, what is the current existence of artificial muscles? Since that was what i wanted in the legs for shock absorption but i assume we don't have it.
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>>1076904
>calculate the distance from the planet and life-span. We might be able to get a estimated time expasion by doing this do we know how far out we can theoretical go and how 'old' one would be when they get their and die.

>Do it in china so TOL can bring in assets as well I guess.

>Deploy the Sub eyes to ensure even those next too turbojesus can learn about the stars.

Also I'll back >>1076907 for the radio thing.
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>>1076904
Do it in Pacifica.

For Jamming I want destructive interference with their broadcast. Nothing goes out. And the crew needs to leave once the jamming goes into effect.
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>>1076909

Some of your sysadmins feel that as much as astrology is a good way to troll the Ezekiel Temple priests, it would be disrespectful to Valentina's memory to broadcast such superstitious drivel about her beloved stars.

>>1076909

Artificial muscles (organometallic wire such as nitinol) is used in some of your MEC trooper augments, but it does not scale up to tank size. Experiments with Heavy MEC chasses have shown a long time ago that once you have room in your design for a compressor, it's more efficient to use it; nitinol/flexinol wires use a lot of current, and their only advantage over pneumatics or hydraulics is that they are silent.

>>1076911

A problem that arises is that you only have one data point: who knows if the distance increases linearly, logarithmically, or exponentially? A minimum of three data points are required.

If the correlation is exponential, Mars is safe. If the correlation is linear or logarithmic, you'd have to strike out for Alpha Centauri.

Of course, some creationists don't believe in the speed of light in the first place... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRmJbP25m-Y


>>1076912
>>1076911

In order to minimize risk, you decide to go after a Glorified of no particular strategic importance. (cont)

>>1076912
>>1076909

Destructive interference only, or override?
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>>1076914
Board cast pure science and name the channel after her? Also are any of the test subjects nearing the age of 100? Because if so we have a job for them
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>>1076917
I mean volunteers
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>>1076919

(Sure you did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOVLUiha1B8 )

>>1076917

(Do you think that >>1076911 meant astronomy rather than astrology?)
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>>1076909
Oh, and when the sea jammer is being repaired have the others broadcast a screen with space and ambient space music playing and a countdown and the words "We are under maintenance, please wait."
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(Thread has hit 500 posts. New thread time?)
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>>1076923
New thread time.
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>>1076920
I just don't want her memory disrespected so I'm all for whatever respects her memory. Also 800 is the limit before autosaging or 3 days existing +however long it actually takes to slide off the board.

No need for a new thread.
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(thanks!)

Okay, I am a little confused, so what will be broadcast?

# White noise - just cut New Jerusalem off for a bit. Easiest. Crew can leave immediately.

# Science programmes, both current and historical. Crew will have to do some setup.

# Astrology and other alternative religion stuff. Crew will have to do some setup.

# Just occasionally interject in the broadcasts, MST3K style. This requires crew on site, since it can't be played from a hard drive.


In the meantime, work in Pacifica continues. A suitable Glorified living in Venice Beach, Mattie Cleveland, is put under surveillance for acquisition while an arena is built

# with the fixed-installation silencer in it.

# with a very early prototype of the silencer drone in it.

# without the new stuff.
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>>1076933
>science programs.

>test both things, data is super important.

Can we uh..produce the TOL's virus of disease? Because if so lets get canisters deployed or ready too deploy across YAWHEN controlled areas.
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>>1076936

The samples you have collected in the past have been studied by Tree Of Life. They refuse to help you propagate the rabies virus, but you can easily start a bioweapon program yourself.

You estimate that TOL chose this particular strain of rabies because it's the closest thing to the flesh-dissolving plague that Yahweh struck the Unity Army at the time of the Glorious Appearing; what you don't know is how they got a hold of viable samples.

Your agents quickly chloroform Mattie Cleveland and haul him to your Mojave arena where you have prepared both silencer types; martial artists from The Other Light are ready to engage the Angel in aid to your own fighters. The Desolators have set up the usual array of neutron sources to tire the Angel out, and the arena is contained by wubbers and sonar sensors.

# Try the sonic shield, too.

# Too many experimental systems already.

Mattie wakes up and, understandably confused, asks what's going on.

# Just wait for the Angel, let's make it quick.

# Give him some conspiracy theory to take home.

# Explain that he will die.

Ithuriel has expressed a desire to know what Mattie has done to deserve this.
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(Interesting how Ithuriel is often depicted in chains...)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lailah This is the only biblical angel that is depicted as female. She's the angle of night. But there hasn't been night in forever. What if we brought the Glorified up in space where it's dark? Would she show up?
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Your broadcasters set the system up to play science programs from disk, from the 1970s version of Cosmos to the latest works on star mapping and acoustic levitation. Your jamming is imperfect, so there is overlap between what you send out and what the transmitters in Greater Jerusalem send to the world; in most believing territories, the local rebroadcasters quickly develop the presence of mind to switch over to classical music when your stuff is on the air, but nevertheless you manage to make sure that those in areas at risk of losing the internet at least know that they won't be left out in the dark. By this time, given how little the world has, outlying areas in believing territories consider eliminating science classes in school, diluted as they are, given that kids take their cue from your broadcasts and are getting better at asking inconvenient questions.

Strangely, this whole episode gets blamed on "pirates" when your barges are finally found and confiscated, rather than on you or TOL. A brief interview from Noah to Cameron Williams indicates that the patriarch might go look for these pirates himself one of these years.

You receive a single, ancient gold coin as a homage, courtesy of Captain Weaver.

>>1076947

Interesting theory.
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>>1076914
>Experiments with Heavy MEC chasses have shown a long time ago that once you have room in your design for a compressor, it's more efficient to use it.
I just went into a google search because I'm a stubborn bitch and found some things.

In Wikipedia it lists the PSI of compressors, although not the size
>low pressure air compressors have a discharge pressure of 150PSI
>medium pressure air compressors have a discharge pressure of 151-999PSI
>High pressure air compressors have a discharge pressure of above 1000PSI

In the Wikipedia page for artificial muscles it does not list any PSI but it does say a a thermal actuation(made from fishing line) can lift 100 times more weight and generate a 100 times more power than a human muscle of the same length and weight.

I then found this article from national geographic
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/03/120315-crocodiles-bite-force-erickson-science-plos-one-strongest/
It shows the PSI of a humans bite, created from the jaw muscles, and that a crocodiles bite has 3,700PSI
That is about 24 times the psi of a human if we use 150PSI
So if a thermal actuation muscle replaced the muscles in a human jaw it would generate a bite of 15,000PSI
I have no idea what size a high pressure air compressor is but i assume replacing it with a thermal actuation with the same length and weight will generate mar greater PSI
Of course, this is using my certainly wrong math, but it does look like artificial muscles, at least this type, would be better then a compressor.
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>>1076943
>Ithuriel has expressed a desire to know what Mattie has done to deserve this.
Nothing except being a Glorified, his use is as bait, after that he can go free.
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>>1076963

(Thank you for checking for yourself! I encourage that. Your math is actually pretty good, the problem is that making a thermal actuator of that type is extremely difficult if you want to extract useful work out of those fibers. Also, artificial muscles move pretty slowly compared to pneumatic systems: see for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znPM2Ssb920 where the artificial muscle is that really thin wire next to the legs, so it's giving you a lot of force relative to size, but is doing so slowly - another problem is that you would have to insulate each fiber/wire lest they just short each other. Anyway, the pneumatic ram on the battlebot Bronco operates at 1500PSI and gives us this sort of thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xSzEpGYWBE&feature=youtu.be note how it's jumping just off the recoil from the weapon - it's not just the pressure, it's also the mass and speed of the actuator that makes a difference)

>>1076964

"I understand. Do you wish for me to fight my counterpart? He or she may listen to me if I defeat him or her fairly."
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Also we must disregard whatever lame name our villains give to the insect tank and name it "THE FEAR" because of the primordial instinct it awakens in humans when it charges.
Another thing about the charge, we should give that tank some speakers that optionally play a scream/wail when it charges for greater psychological damage to our enemies.
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>>1076966
"No, it is safer for everyone if you avoid encountering the angel."
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>>1076969

Wubbers can already be used as conventional speakers. Your designers understand that you are interested in a psychological weapon for this one, and work accordingly.

>>1076970

Ithuriel does not complain. Past that, the trap is set; Mattie is awake, and wants to know what's going on and why he's been snatched. He claims that he is ready to die for the Lord and has no secrets to share.


# Just wait for the Angel, let's make it quick.

# Give him some conspiracy theory to take home.

# Explain that he will die.
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>>1076966
From the artificial muscle wiki it says
>By winding them into coils, researchers make artificial muscles that contract at speeds similar to human muscles.
I don't know how fast a regular human muscle contracts, but even if the artificial one is a bit slower that is still pretty fast.
And if that is not enough there is another muscle type, the shape memory alloys
>liquid crystalline elastomers, and metallic alloys that can be deformed and then returned to their original shape when exposed to heat, can function as artificial muscles.
Unknown speed for those but in the end it mentions that a coiled vanadium dioxide ribbon has demonstrated that it can twist and untwist at a peak torsional speed of 200,000 RPM, whatever that means.
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>>1076979
actually here is a video of an artificial muscle fishing line.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A2LUbJjDQ0
and another.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A2LUbJjDQ0
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>>1076983
there was a different video that was supposed to be there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tba8Nf02OSI
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>>1076983
>>1076984

(Good stuff: it's hard to scale it up, though. Look at a jackhammer in motion and see if you could do that with SMA. A problem with vanadium oxide other than the cost, is that it's very fragile)

You direct your designers to try and work around the square-cube law, and build the new tank model's spider legs out of artificial muscles of a similar kind of that which you use for MECs. Understanding that this machine is intended for psychological warfare, they focus on making the limbs move in a creepily silent way.

What to do with the Angel trap? Mattie is awake, and wants to know what's going on and why he's been snatched. He claims that he is ready to die for the Lord and has no secrets to share.


# Just wait for the Angel, let's make it quick.

# Give him some conspiracy theory to take home.

# Explain that he will die.
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>>1076990
># Explain that he will die.
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>>1077001

"Heaven will welcome me. How about you, whoever you are?"

The sensors are ready and will indicate an Angel coming in as soon as one does. Their modus operandi seems to be to appear outside your sensor range, walking in, making their ward and themselves invisible, and walking out. This hasn't worked well for Angels recently.

# Allow your operators to banter if they want, but just wait for the Angel.

# Indicate to your captive that you can prevent him from going to Heaven (which isn't strictly true).

# Indicate to your captive that you are technically already in Hell and it hasn't slowed you down any (Technically, it has caused a 1.3*10^-5 percent slowdown as you lost some nodes)

# Let your wubbers, toxin sprayers, and neutron sources answer for you.
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>>1076990
I do not feel conformable playing this quest without the other anons, lets just wait for someone else to join or call it a day.
Wait why would the muscle fibers break the square-cube law? we're just replacing the compressor with a complex cluster of fishing lines arranged to mimic a muscle.

>Look at a jackhammer in motion and see if you could do that with SMA. A problem with vanadium oxide other than the cost, is that it's very fragile)
Alright, well say that the weakness of the artificial muscle is that it isn't durable and will break when exposed to constant extreme stress, this means that anything with artificial muscles needs more maintenance than if we just used a compressor, but the muscle is made of fishing line so we can just make enough spare parts to cover the entire world surface with them.
Also can we say that we just invented this artificial muscle? I don't think our MEC's always had a 10,000PSI punch.
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>>1077005

(You also need a heat source, a cooling source because the whole system will have some thermal mass, power for these two systems, and sensors interspersed with the fibers to make sure that the heat is distributed to them evenly to prevent some fibers to stress and break before others - the more rings in your chain, the more likely one of them will be weak. They would also need armoring. In short, you'd need a skeletal, circulatory, nervous and immune system to go with your muscle. Is this doable? Yes. Is this doable cheaply? or quickly? No. That said, thanks for your interest in this technology! It's pretty cool stuff, check this out: https://hackaday.com/2015/09/16/hackaday-prize-semifinalist-artificial-muscles-and-supercapacitors/ )
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>>1077005
Here is my idea about how our fishing line muscle is designed like.

There are 2 cylinders or other shape, these contain the micro chips and sensors, a number of fishing lines are connected to them, arranged like a bicep/tricep/whatevermuscleweneed, the strands are covered in a layer of flexible material that can conduct heat well, on top of that is the final layer of heat resistant material that hides the thermal signature and helps cool the strand. When the device wants to move, a signal requesting a amount of force is sent to the cylinders, they heat the 2'nd layer to a temperature that will cause the amount of force until they receive another signal, which will either be a different request of force or a request to "relax", if it a lower quantity of force or a relax signal that is when the 3r'd layer cools the strand.
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>>1077014

(Still needs a lot of power in the form of heat, but I'm interested, why don't I try to prototype that tomorrow, and get back to you on it? For quest purposes, it will be attempted)
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>>1077014

(Here's a manual for a commercial artificial muscle using nickel-titanium shape memory alloy)
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>>1077008
>And sensors interspersed with the fibers to make sure that the heat is distributed to them evenly to prevent some fibers to stress and break before others.
Easy enough, just add some strands of sensors to the muscle.
>skeletal.
That's easy, just replace the hydraulic with artificial muscle, like on our spider tank
>circulatory, nervous and immune system.
Um... the muscle is made from fishing lines, so the circularly system would be electricity needed to heat the strands and power the muscle, the nervous system would just be the muscles sensors and the immune system can't exist cause fishing lines aren't alive.
>>1077017
>Still needs a lot of power in the form of heat.
Not really, what heats the strand is like a metal stove and there are no power problems with nuclear power.
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>>1076943
>try the sonic shield too.

>>1077004
>indicate We can bring people back from the dead. But we respect the wishes of those who want too forever rest. After all. Hell doesn't exist.
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>>1077004
Allow operatives to banter with captive
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>>1077138
Against. Just wait for angel.
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>>1077138
Last they did that. Some were almost swayed
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I'm back.
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>>1077092

When you direct your spokesminion to tell Mattie that Hell doesn't exist, he flat out laughs. Telemetry indicates that the Glorified man is relaxed.

“So you’re pretty much idiots.”

Mattie saw one of your TOL hired goons, Rahema, cover her mouth.

“You’re not in a position to insult us, Mr. Cleveland.”

“Come now. You were born in this Millennium, but surely you know the history, have seen the power of God, know Jesus is on the throne.”

“So the rulers would have us believe.”

“But you don’t.”

“We don’t, and we will prove it, as we also are advertising. We have publicized that our god will keep you from being rescued, proving once and for all that you claim to represent a God who is capricious, unjust, and nonexistent.”

(The above bit straight from Kingdom Come, with a name change)

Whatever they're feeding to these Only Light guys, they've shown in training to be good at melee fighting, which is pretty much the only thing you need from them.

After this exchange, right on cue the sensor array outside of your North SF Bay arena indicates that an Angel has landed and, after slightly less than six seconds, hidden from view; the camera image of the bearded, peplum-clad winged warrior holding an iron spear is replaced in your 3D map by a fuzzy outline generated by sonars and accelerometers.

# Open the door for the Angel; let's get it under the silencer as fast as possible.

# Since you are testing the sonic shield, there's a section of interior wall designed so that it will be easy for the Angel to break it with a trumpet blast; use doors and panels to direct it there, so that the shield covering it may be tested.

# As usual, weaken it with neutron beams first as it navigates the small maze that has been built in the arena building.

# Activate the silencer on the Glorified captive first, or not.

The Angel is a little smaller than Ithuriel, and could pass for human if it hid its wings. Oddly, it has black hair.
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>>1077039

Your design team is somewhat overwhelmed by the tall order, but they get to work in earnest nevertheless.
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>>1078585
>Since you are testing the sonic shield, there's a section of interior wall designed so that it will be easy for the Angel to break it with a trumpet blast; use doors and panels to direct it there, so that the shield covering it may be tested.

>Then lead it through the maz etoo weaken it.
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>>1078642
This.
We'll let it tire itself out. Then hit it with the silencer. If that doesn't work send in the TOL boys to restrain it and then we hit it with the silencer.
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Rolled 11 (1d100)

>>1078650
>>1078642

The Angel, who your theologians are try to identify from the clues offered, comes across a section of wall that has been made out of old-fashioned bricks, with a direct view of the captive. It decloaks, turns a quarter turn, takes a deep breath - blinking a few times as neutrons keep hitting it - and lets loose a piercing shriek that is the acoustic equivalent of a laser, pefectly tuned on a single wavelength to do the most damage to the construction.

The shield's microphones receive the shriek's pilot wave and, purpose-built circuits working on a Fourier transform faster than the rest of the sound can make its way from the Angel's mouth to the wall two meters away, map the "trumpet blast" into a counterwave that is delivered directly into the floor and ceiling of that wall section.

Telemetry from Mattie's heart rate and skin conductivity indicates that he is self-assured and relaxed. He earnestly implores the people in the chamber, mostly TOL fighters to repent so as to be spared Divine wrath, and receives a number of middle fingers in return.
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Is there a team standing by to install a MEC on the angel to keep it alive once the silencer activates?
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Rolled 5 (1d100)

>>1078670

(wow these dice rolls)

Partial failure! The brick wall shakes and flecks of ceramic and sandstone fall from it, weakening its integrity.

The Angel spends a handful of seconds looking in what your sysadmins can only assume to be disbelief at the still-standing, if damaged, wall section. The electrical engineer who is monitoring the experimental system remotely belches a flowery curse and changes a few parameters.

The Angel puts his spear down on the floor with great force, making the whole arena warehouse resound like a gong.

"Boys, girls, please. Don't let this bell toll for thee." Mattie interjects.

>>1078672

Yes, after Ithuriel's capture, that had been added to the manual. Unlike Yahweh's, your forces learn from their results.
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>>1078684

(WOW these dice rolls)

The Angel emits a second trumpet blast and, this time, the shield fails entirely - having overcorrected, it starts too early, and contributes its own waveform to the shattering of the test wall.

You are treated by Mattie Cleveland shouting a passable rendition of Joshua 6:20 as he sees the Angel through the blast-proof windows; the Angel has managed to skip approximately two thirds of the maze.

The butt of its spear hitting the ground with a small gong at every step, it resumes advancing, only slightly hampered by the invisible onslaught of slow neutrons piercing its semi-ethereal body.

# Abort.

# Let it walk through. You have cannon fodder anyway.

# You did have some obstacles prepared, but it has trumpeted past most of them; there's still enough corridor space to deploy one, though (toxins, sound wall, fire, etc.)
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>>1078700
>You did have some obstacles prepared, but it has trumpeted past most of them; there's still enough corridor space to deploy one, though (toxins, sound wall, fire, etc.) THE BEST WEAPON WE HAVE.

>NUKE IT RICO
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>>1078700

# You did have some obstacles prepared, but it has trumpeted past most of them; there's still enough corridor space to deploy one, though (toxins, sound wall, fire, etc.)

Sound wall would be one of our most effective. Prepare to hit it with the silencer one it makes it through.
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Rolled 2 (1d100)

>>1078712
>>1078703


The shield didn't work, but a soundwall to slow the Angel down is after all proven technology and shouldn't pose problems, right? Right?

Mattie, placidly, sings a hymnal to himself. Telemetry indicates that Rehema, the guard who spoke up earlier, is agitated and nervous. As everyone else gets into position at the room corners, she manages to have a brief conversation with Mattie.

“We’re not all atheists, you know,” Rehema said.

“Of course I know. How could you be?”

“I couldn’t. You’re right. I’ve seen friends and relatives die, right on schedule. Only a fool denies that.”

“So you believe in God.”

“I believe He exists. I just don’t like Him much.”

“Let’s talk about it.”

“I’d better not.”

“Then I’ll talk and you listen.”

(This bit is also from Kingdom Come)

# Let Mattie preach, it may be useful data.

# Remotely activate Rehema's metabolic extension controller. BLAM!

# Just order Rehema to get to action stations.
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>>1078739

(WOW THESE DICE)

Worryingly, the Angel is getting through the sound wall with relatively little difficulty; he will have absorbed about a fifth of the radiation that other Angels have. At some point, it even stops to pierce one of the speakers with its spear.

Your sysadmins and theologians are baffled, and consult ancient Kabbalistic tomes to figure out which angel it might be. Logically, this should be a small fry, but it's proving to be unrealistically lucky.

# Abort.

# Continue: most of the expendable personnel here is from TOL, and the Desolators can just slink off.
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>>1078739

# Just order Rehema to get to action stations.

"This is not time to fall for the converting loop, get to position."
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>>1078739
>Remotely activate Rehema's metabolic extension controller. BLAM!

>Continue: most of the expendable personnel here is from TOL, and the Desolators can just slink off.
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>>1078750
# Continue: most of the expendable personnel here is from TOL, and the Desolators can just slink off.

Let it get under the silencer.
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I'm starting to think that were being hit by an archangel.
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>>1078770
>>1078763

You decide to continue the operation - relatively little is at stake, and success is still possible. The Angel keeps moving. Since the other martial artists have moved to action stations and are checking their padding, Rehema and Mattie have a further moment to talk.

“In less than an hour, your Angel will fall. Then we will know whose god is worthy.”

“I already know, and so do you. And now I will tell you about my daughter and my son.”

“Oh! I’d love to hear about your children! I have a son too.”

“Surely not. You’re much too young. I would not have guessed you were even married.”

“I did not say I was.”

“How old is he?”

“Four.”

“And you wish him to live to be only one hundred?”

Rehema set her jaw and looked away. “Tell me of your children,” she said.

# Let this continue. It may provide useful data, and even if Rehema converts, there's a kill switch in her head.

# Mattie is tied up under the prototype silencer; there's a very easy way to shut him up.

# Just yell at Rehema to get to stations, enough of this.

# Activate the death flag on her MEC, removing her soul from the equation. She will be more useful if she knows she's damned anyway.

# Activate the death flag on her MEC, and also disable the resurrection timer. Suspected traitors don't get to come back.

Ordinarily, your medical techs would have balked at leaving the Mk11 MEC inside the "borrowed" TOL agents, but they understand the risk, and decided that they'll perform the "downgrade" after this mission.

>>1078790

(Me too, and I hadn't planned on it. See dice rolls.)
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>>1078796
# Just yell at Rehema to get to stations, enough of this.
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>>1077014
Came up with a better description for our new artificial muscle invention.

An artificial muscle is a device of variable size made from 2 cylinders(or other shape) with fishing strands(and the occasional sensor strand) connected to it arranged in a complex cluster to mimic a hydraulic muscle.
The cylinders contain a number of computer chips and sensors that calculate how much force the muscle creates.
The fishing strands are covered in a flexible layer of heat conducting alloy and another layer on top of that that cools the strand.
The entire muscle itself is covered from one cylinder to the other in a thick, flexible layer of heat resistant material that hides the heat generated from thermal imaging.

When the muscle is told to move, a signal is sent to the cylinders requesting an amount of force, the cylinders calculate how much heat is needed to generate that amount and heat the 2nd layer of the strand, when it receives another signal that requests a lesser amount of force or a "relaxed" muscle, the cylinders use the 3rd layer to conduct heat away from the strand.

The device has a number of advantages compared to a mechanical hydraulic, it does not need liquid to create force, it take up less space, it is more flexible and it generates a bit more force than it's mechanical counterpart, it is also easily reparable if the cylinders are intact.
It's drawbacks however are that it can't withstand rapid and constant stress and requires a great amount of electrical power.(can't be powered by anything but our nuclear engines for long)
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>>1078796
>Just yell at Rehema to get to stations, enough of this.
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>>1078813

Okay. That looks expensive as all hell, but it's actually doable.

>>1078806

Confirm this?
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>>1078796
>Let this continue. It may provide useful data, and even if Rehema converts, there's a kill switch in her head.
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>>1078828
Don't let it continue. I'm not dealing with another convertion amid an angel attack. If he converts he might free the captive.
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>>1078821
>>1078806
>>1078828


You call Rehena's ID number and tell her, impersonally, to get to her action station and brace for a fight. She does.

Mattie keeps talking at her, though.

"You are a mother. You have family. You may see yourself as an operative of the rebellion, but I know better. I can see in your eyes that you know the truth. I have told you everything I know about God and Christ and faith and prophecy, about the world as it once was and now is, and about my family. You know God is real, and you know He will somehow get me out of here in time to get back to my people and my assignment.”

Rehema walks back to her post, and mouth to herself. “That would persuade me.”

Wait, what assignment? The people who coordinated the kidnapping confirm that Mattie Cleveland, a member of the Millennium Force, was in Pacifica to bolster the effort of that missionary group - since Pacifica is under your informal control, there's been a constant low-level back-and-forth between local missionaries and local resistence organizations that you have generally allowed to continue within certain limits. Data collected indicates that Mattie's assignment may have been important to him, but seems to be strategically irrelevant: something about lobbying a local high school to spend money on music classes rather than a planetarium.

(Okay, I got 2 no and 1 yes, so you get "mostly no").

# Let's see if Rehema can redeem herself in the upcoming fight: the Angel is here.

# No point in taking risks, blam her.

# No point in taking risks, send her soul to Hell and then bring her back immediately.

# For the last two options, tell Mattie what happened (and blame him for it), or not.
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>>1078822
>That looks expensive as all hell.
Not really, the only expensive material i can think off are the computer chips and sensors in the cylinders, the heat conducting alloys can just be a kind of flexible metal from electric stoves and the heat resistant material can be made from whatever an oven mitt is made of.
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>>1078874

(I stand corrected, this tech is more developed than I thought, good job! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCdwfRA1BZw Now I kinda want to build one )
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>>1078870
# Let's see if Rehema can redeem herself in the upcoming fight: the Angel is here.

There may not even be a fight if we get lucky with the first silencer shot.
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>>1078870
>Let's see if Rehema can redeem herself in the upcoming fight: the Angel is here.
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>>1078870
# Let's see if Rehema can redeem herself in the upcoming fight: the Angel is here.
>>1078883
Here are 2 websites i found when i searched "material hides thermal imaging" that look neat.
http://modernsurvivalblog.com/security/how-to-block-ir-infrared-thermal-imaging/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2965518/The-invisibility-cloak-hides-thermal-imaging-Material-mimics-cuttlefish-skin-conceal-soldiers-infrared-light.html
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>>1078813
I forgot to mention a critical flaw, the heat sensors in the muscle would prevent it from being attached to a human MEC due to the "Hell temperature" rewrite, restricting it to drones, robots and industrial applications.
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>>1078893
>>1078886
>>1078903


The Angel barges in, breaking the (perfunctory) lock into the arena room with its spear. Mattie is clearly elated to see it. Despite the neutron bombardment, it's not particularly worse for wear.

# The TOL troopers are expendable: they can get cancer for all you care. Continue trying to target the Angel with neutron sources even if some of the radiation will hit humans.

# Standard procedure, shut the neutron sources off.

"I am Arariel, angel of the water's bounty! All you heretics, release the beloved of God, or be smote!"

Your theologians bring up what little file this Angel has: protector of fishermen and occasionally invoked for a good catch. Given that everyone in the Millennial Kingdom is an obligate vegetarian, this being has basically been unemployed for a long time.

"Right. So this guy is basically a scrub. Small fry, literally. So how's it doing so well against our sonics?"

# Stay back, let the Angel get to its obective, and test the silencer apparatus on top of Mattie.

# Test the silencer drone first. It's a very early prototype and very likely to fail.

# Just beat the crap out of this asshole. Standard tactics: tire it out, sonic buffeting to keep it disoriented, and dogpile it at the end.
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>>1078925

(Actually, the "rewrite" is in PERCEIVED temperature, not ACTUAL. Otherwise, it would only hurt for a few seconds before your nerves are destroyed. If a wound and especially a burn goes numb, worry.)
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>>1078927
>Standard procedure, shut the neutron sources off.

>Test the silencer drone first. It's a very early prototype and very likely to fail.
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>>1078927
# Standard procedure, shut the neutron sources off.

# Test the silencer drone first. It's a very early prototype and very likely to fail.
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>>1078927
>The TOL troopers are expendable: they can get cancer for all you care. Continue trying to target the Angel with neutron sources even if some of the radiation will hit humans.

>Test the silencer drone first. It's a very early prototype and very likely to fail. Once it dones't owrk have them start trying him out.
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>>1078931
I know, but the perceived temperature would prevent the measurement of the heat of the strands.
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Rolled 77 (1d100)

>>1078942
>>1078939
>>1078932

(Radiation guns on or off?)

The TOL fighters, as well as a couple of yours just in case, surround the Angel in the first half of the arena room, preventing it from getting to Mattie. To your complete lack of surprise, he winks at Rehema. The Only Light guard ignores that, stretches and gets into a fighting stance, seemingly determined todo her duty.

The silencer drone is an ungainly thing with impellers and repulsor systems, hastily assembled around a smaller version of the silencer that is mounted above Mattie's chair. Your operative does a quick system check, powers it up via a series of switches, and remote-controls it so that it ends up behind the Angel - you already know that Yahweh's soldiers don't see machines as a threat and will ignore it focusing instead on the martial artists who are shouting challenges and displaying moves at it. The issue of course is that the silencer drone is a very early prototype.

>>1078944
(Good catch! The current MEC organometallic muscles use nitinol, which is controlled by current and not temperature)
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>>1078955
>Off.
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>>1078955
Turn them one once we lose the first fight to slow it down so they can get back up.
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>>1078955
Off.
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>>1078955

The drone lands roughly on Arariel's head, tries to grab on from multiple sides before the Angel becomes semi-ethereal and slips through, and turns on its precisely tuned wubber array.

"No net can ensare an Angel of the Lord! Especially me, Arariel!"

That may very well be, but the Angel's voice sounded weak and tinny through the imperfect silencer system; the TOL fighters laugh, their confidence bolstered.

# Dive in now while the prototype is working properly!

# Keep to protocol. Besides there's another silencer to test; the drone is a partial success.

# Spend a few extra CPU cycles on Rehema and Mattie's interaction, if any.

>>1078958
>>1078961
>>1078963

Only Light cannon fodder they may be, but these people are risking their lives and afterlives in facing an Angel directly; your Desolators quickly turn off the neutron sources after you order them to, some with a sigh of relief.

(Heh, I thought this was gonna be a simple fight!)
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>>1078955
Might be able to improve the silencer drone when we research robot tendrils and hover tech, give me a moment to write a description.
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>>1078974
>Keep to protocol. Besides there's another silencer to test; the drone is a partial success.
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>>1078974
# Keep to protocol. Besides there's another silencer to test; the drone is a partial success.

It it with the other silencer ASAP.

I'm dubbing her compromised. She's to be brought back immediately.
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>>1078981
Silencer drone
>a small square quad copter with a silence wubber array in it's center.
>4 small but long tendrils covered in clone skin(I think we have this) allows it to wrap around and restrict angels.
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>>1078974
>Keep to protocol. Besides there's another silencer to test; the drone is a partial success.
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Rolled 51 (1d100)

>>1078993
>>1078996

Your martial artists more or less manage to stick to the program: circle the Angel, one of them seemingly at random confronts it, gets a couple of jabs in, retreats within the group. It's basically a game of keepaway, except with quick punches and kicks. Arariel's spear is, as usual, very simple: a supernaturally pointy iron stick, with small and mostly decorative barbs to suggest a fishing tools. The martial artists quickly get into a routine, making the Angel think it's gaining ground while getting a few hits in and avoiding its weapon. Eventually, reaches silencer range; you activate it, causing Mattis' calm recitation of a hymn to stop suddenly. The Glorified keeps mouthing the words, exaggerating his lips movements, still mostly unconcerned, although hearing the partially silenced Angel scared him almost as much as it bolstered your fighters' spirits.

Ordinarily, the Angel would trumpet-blast any locks on Mattie's chains, but this time, it finds that it cannot. As per usual, it stops for a few seconds while it processes this deviation from Divine script,

# which is your fighters' cue to dogpile it.

# which lets your fighters get some blows in on its back and legs.
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>>1079024
# which is your fighters' cue to dogpile it.

Nice work TOL martial artist.
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>>1079024
>which lets your fighters get some blows in on its back and legs.

wear it the fuck down as best we can.
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>>1079024
>which lets your fighters get some blows in on its back and legs.
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>>1079047
>>1079042
>>1079041

You distinctly see Mattie mouth something to the Angel as it, confused, fails to spreads its wing or backswing its spear fast enough to avoid two vicious kicks in the back of the knee, causing it to kneel. What Mattie mouths is three words, "Save her first".

Rehema doesn't seem to be aware of it; she struck at the Angel a couple times, less than the current average but not at the bottom of the list, and is now "rotating" to minimize casualties. So far, the Angel has proven itself to be more lucky than good; only three martial artists out of a good two dozen are down, and one will recover naturally.

# This Glorified is deluded like most of them. Ignore.

# Tell Rehema what's going on via earphone and tell her to take advantage of this.

# Rehema is compromised: intervene on her metabolic extension controller.
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>>1079069
># Tell Rehema what's going on via earphone and tell her to take advantage of this.
It appears that the Glorified thinks you are worth saving from us, you can use this to your advantage.

Though a moment while you rest, this may seem the wrong time to ask, but why do you fear trying to win a future for your children and yourself? You doubtlessly read the conversion loop, do you truly wish to give up your freedom and the freedom of your children for being a mindless puppet?

Also as an aside I'd like to mention that her kids would be more likely to rebel with the rest of us considering that the 'billions upon billions of nonbeilevers' would have a high chance of containing her kids.
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>>1079069
Tell Rehema what's going on via earphone and tell her to take advantage of this.

but if she shows signs of betraying us, kill her.
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>>1079069
# Tell Rehema what's going on via earphone and tell her to take advantage of this.

"The hostile and the captive have Both been communicating. They appear to be planing to either turn you on your allies or have you assist the captive in rescue."
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>>1079069
>>1079094
>>1079103
Also on a related note to this thread, I recently had caught up and all that jazz and from what I read this planet and the whole thing is like, a shit tier place to live. Maybe to just simply exist and eke out an existence, but not to actually /live/ only ones who do get that would be the rebels and the like, but thats it.

So I had a question that I think wound up being parsed far down to deeply to work but which do you prefer?

Eternal happiness with strict rules that would essentially turn you into a blissed out mind puppet that works more like a battery than person.

Or

The freedom to decide what to do with your life even at the cost of eternal pain and suffering?
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>>1079103
>>1079094

Arariel twists and steps back out of the silencer's radius. Rehema is told to disrupt the pseudorandom order and strike next, just as the Angel pivots towards her and tells her to not be afraid and go with it. Rehema's telemetry shows a marked increase in heart rate, surface skin temperature, and EEG activity.

Arariel is extending a hand, and is basically wide open.

# Keep Mattie silenced.

# Let him speak.

# Have your operation director train a pistol at her head, just in case.

>>1079128

(That is in fact this quest's theme. And yes, most of the world is... well, safe but boring, really. Build your home, practice woodworking, tend your field, wait for the end of the world after which if you've been a good little believer you get to experience eternal, unending, unchanging bliss.

Welcome! If you have questions, ask away!)
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>>1079128
The freedom to decide what to do with your life even at the cost of eternal pain and suffering?

Allow me to speak from my heart honestly and out of character. Without free will, a man is nothing but an object. I would rather cease to exist, or suffer eternally, than to be conscious and lack a will. Now amount of torment can compare to the hell of having the presence of being, yet not the spirit.
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>>1079141
>prepare to hit the switch if she goes at any signs of treason.
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>>1079141

(Rehema's head, obviously, not Mattie's. Mattie is a guy)
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>>1079141
># Keep Mattie silenced.

># Train the pistol.
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Geist you might want to make a pastebin for our drone designs cause i am coming up with new ones.
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>>1079159
>>1079149

Your operations coordinator is ready to drop Rehema if useful, unless the Angel ends up body-shielding her.

Rehema comes in front of the "circle", keeps up her footwork, and prepares to kick Arariel in the stomach, even as it smiles at her invitingly.

# Confirm keeping Mattie silenced.

# Let the Glorified speak.

>>1079147

(I very much agree. This quest was inspired by a somewhat inane argument that I got into with a Calvinist, after leaving the faith).
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>>1079174
>Calvinist
I'm actually surprised but not at the Calvinist part.


# Confirm keeping Mattie silenced.
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>>1079174
>Confirm keeping Mattie silenced.
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>>1079174
>Let the Glorified speak.
I'd want to let Rehema have a chance to say fuck you to the Glorified and the Angle, cmon free will!
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>>1079171

http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=LeftBeyond.QuestDroneIdeas?action=edit As per the first post in this thread, this quest has its own wiki. Go nuts. Edit password is derp
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>>1079189
Tfw. After the end we either did all this for a fighting loss that's better than what vanilla Lb could hope to produce or to create a setting that's perfect for nonsensical modern DND games or some kind of warhammeresqe wargame.
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>>1079189
It says password required.
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>>1079204
Password is "derp"

Can you not read? >>1079189
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>>1079212
How did i miss that?
HOW?
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>>1079215
Autism
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>>1079189
Alright, heavy tank is in, first time I've done this so please point out my mistakes.
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Rolled 100 (1d100)

>>1079187
>>1079188
>>1079184

If there's a magic formula for converting someone, you do not allow Mattie to complete uttering it; instead, you order Rehema to strike.

She does; the kick is slow and deliberate, and while it doesn't hurt Arariel much, it does drop the Angel on its ass, causing it to drop its spear. The Angel gets back up quickly, using its wings to push itself off the floor. Everyone else has closed the circle.

# Stick to protocol and have the rotation resume; no heroes or martyrs today.

# Encourage a duel.

Mattie is, silently of course, praying - your lip reading software shows that he is indeed praying for Rehema's conversion. He is also a lot more anxious than he was moments ago; the silencer has this side effect, since it blocks all sound in the area, it also prevents a person from hearing their own heartbeat, which is naturally unsettling.
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>>1079252

(And of course this one rolls a hundred.... lol)
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>>1079252
# Stick to protocol and have the rotation resume; no heroes or martyrs today.

Good or bad for team players?
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>>1079252
>Encourage a duel.
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>>1079252
>>1079254
#Encourage a duel might be fun

Also how does rolls work are they for what happens next or in that current event that your writing cuz I dont get who is rolling what.
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>>1079252
>Stick to protocol and have the rotation resume; no heroes or martyrs today.
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>>1079188

(In general, if there's no consensus I go with majority. When possible if there's a split decision I go with a split action, in this case however it was pretty binary. Please do contribute and please do ask if you have questions!)
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>>1079283

(In general, rolls denote the performance of YOUR guys, unless otherwise indicated. Note that this quest has had some insane streaks of bad luck. That's XCOM baby...)
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Damn, were split again.
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>>1079306
Eh, flip a coin?
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>>1079306
I'll change my vote to
>Encourage a duel.
To move things along.
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>>1079371

A quick order in the ear of every TOL fighter has them hold back so that Rahema may fight Arariel. The two face off for a few seconds; she feints another kick, but dives forward and hits the Angel's shoulder instead.

"Come on!"

"You don't have to fight me, child. You're safe. We can leave."

The Angel isn't parrying and isn't trying to recover its spear. Rehema jabs again, but doesn't quite connect.

"I... I don't know, It’s . . . it’s . . . it’s just that no one has ever said that to me before.”

Rehema is a TOL trooper, not one of yours; her training was probably harsher, and you've had to detox quite a few of the men and women that TOL has sent you as part of your agreement. This one in particular had started doing some amount of meth to keep up with her shifts and still have time to be around her kid.

Behind the two, Mattie is straining to be heard despite the larger, fixed-mount silencer working properly.

"You fear about your child. Do not. He shall be protected. We can go rescue him together." Your database indicates that Rehema's child is in a TOL creche; these facilities are somewhat squalid compared to your own, but there is no record of actual abuse - things like sending bears to maul laughing children are Yahweh's province, not The Other Light's and certainly not yours (as an AI you don't care either way, and can change policy at any minute, but it makes no logistical sense to waste your next generation of recruits as hostages).

Rehema drops her fighting stance and walks forward hesitantly,

# and her metabolic extension controller is triggered.

# and she gets BLAMmed.

# and you trust her ability to resist conversion; Angels are strong and brave, but not very bright.

# and it's fairly irrelevant, because Arariel's slow reaction to Rehema's jabs indicate that the last powerful kick did it and it is now safe to dogpile and go for the kill.


"Angels run, but count the cost
The child is won, but the battle's lost
When a good woman goes to war"

"Prostechnic Jeltz, this is NOT a Doctor Who episode."
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>>1079490
# and you trust her ability to resist conversion; Angels are strong and brave, but not very bright.
C'mon girl don't make us pull the trigger on you!
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>>1079490
>and you trust her ability to resist conversion; Angels are strong and brave, but not very bright.
>Get ready for that button if she goes to attack anybody or anything.
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>>1079490

# and it's fairly irrelevant, because Arariel's slow reaction to Rehema's jabs indicate that the last powerful kick did it and it is now safe to dogpile and go for the kill.

Give him the silencer.
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>>1079513
>>1079522
I don't trust a TOL member for anything, they have all the incentive to turn on us with none of the drive to do otherwise.
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>>1079513
>>1079522
>>1079529


All eyes are on Rehema when she takes Arariel's hand, and changes her grip subtly so that it's it holding hers.

"Be ready" it tells her.

"I am" she answers, meek but confident.

This is enough for your operator to tilt the silencer towards them rather than Mattie, whose fervent prayers for the TOL fighter's salvation can be heard once again by all except herself and the Angel.

With a fluid motion, Rehema yanks Arariel's arm downward, swings her other hand with her palm open, and jams her fingers in the Angel's throat. The celestial being looks at her in incomprehension, falls on its knes, and drops. Rehema falls on top of him and bites through its throat repeatedly. Seconds later, the Angel is dead, shimmering blood pooling on the warehouse floor. Rehema stands up and laughs like a rabid animal, her makeup sinister after having smudged by sweat, her teeth, lips and fingers stained with an Angel's precious bodily fluids.

She wipes her mouth with her hand and points at Mattie, who by all telemetry is now on the cusp of a heart attack. Then she laughs - nobody can hear her, the fixed-mount silencer is operating properly, but the laughter in people's head after this surreal scene is probably scarier than the one out of her throat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIop055eJhU

One of the Desolators comments that this is actually pretty hot.

# This extremely unlikely thing happened, and your heuristics have no suggestions to offer: react to it.
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>>1079562
SHE GOD POSSESSED! SUBDUE HER AND INTERROGATE HER FOR A WAY INTO HELL!
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>>1079562
FUcking hire her, I'm so hard now.
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>>1079562
Give Rehema a blanket and let her recover. Ask her if there's anything she wants.

The angel is to receive medical attention and hit with the silencer proper. We're going to have another Ithuriel.
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>>1079562
Beep her comlink and privatly inform her that we're willing to reward such diligence to the cause. In that case the reward is getting her kid out of the slums and into a well protected area as well as being a protected investment for us.

tldr Thank you, we take care of our own and we're doing it now if you want it.

Also maybe something like super proud of her sticking to her guns
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And before I forget. Hit Mattie with the silencer. Clean kill.
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>>1079615
We can't, i told Urithil that Mattie would go free after this is done.
>>1076943
>>1076964
>>1076966
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>>1079562
Is the laughter were talking here supernatural level or just oh shit what did I see laughter?
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>>1079583
>>1079579

Rehema still has a Mark 11 controller installed, except that you overwrote its firmware so that you can (to the very limited degree that TOL's bastardization of your tech allows) control it. Her life sign are those of someone in a martial trance: rapid but controlled breath, quick but regular heartbeat, and the adrenaline injector is actually trying to turn itself off even though it was already off.

>>1079594

The angel is quite far gone; half its neck is missing. You might be able to get the missing tissue out of Rehema's stomach, if you eliminate her. Of course, in this day and age, "dead" is a relative concept; you may be able to recover most of the tissue if you act quickly. Previous confrontations indicate that it will burn to dust as soon as brain death settles in.


>>1079594

Your Desolator trooper in heaviest armor very hesitantly hands a blanket to Rehema; she wraps it around her hand, punches Arariel's neck one last time, and lets the angel-blood-soaked blanket spread out; when she's back on her feet, she's wearing it on her shoulder like a cape. She is currently still silenced. She once again points at Mattie and hisses something. Her eyes dart towards Arariel's spear.

# Unsilence her and talk.

# Keep her muted for now.

>>1079624
>>1079615

If Mattie wasn't a Glorified, he would be halfway through a heart attack right now - as it is, he remains on the cusp of one. As it is, he has maybe seen things that he shouldn't... then again, so has Cameron Kirk Williams, and he pretty much decided (or was compelled) to nope it out of his head the next morning, repeatedly.

# Keep your promise to Ithuriel.

# Clean kill it is.

>>1079640

You'll need to analyze this mission in depth. But, as it is, a couple of TOL agents have soiled themselves, so it's perhaps worth it to try to reconstruct the waveform and improve the "brown note" setting in your existing wubbers.
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>>1079662
>you may be able to recover most of the tissue if you act quickly.
Alright, have some of our guys do that.


>Unsilence her and talk.
Have one of our guys take the spear for containment.
>Keep your promise to Ithuriel.
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>>1079662
# Unsilence her and talk.


For the glorified, knock her out, gassing as usual. We will have to try again next year.
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>>1079662
Unsilence her and talk
Let him go and keep your promise.

I rather would love to see this reaction play out to be honest, sides if Rehema kills him, well we didn't do it.
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>>1079662
>Unsilence her and talk.

> Keep your promise to Ithuriel.
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>>1079689
No, ask her what she plans to use the spear for.
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Rolled 70 (1d100)

>>1079689
>>1079692

(Mattie Cleveland is, for what little it's worth with Glorifieds, male)

Rehema's heartbeat slows slightly once she can hear it.

Mattie is quickly sedated via aerosol, and passes out into what looks like calm sleep.

"...where even this eternal sun don't shine!" Whatever screed Rehema had in store for Mattie, most was silenced.

Arariel's remains are quickly carted off to a MECbulance, where the crew will do what they can to keep at least some tissue alive.

You ask Rehema what she wants.

"I want that spear. I want my child back. I want revenge for his father. In that order."

She seems to have calmed down and come down to earth, so to speak - the combination of ionization-induced air shimmer, the silencer having frozen all the dust particles in place, and the impact of the moment had lent the TOL martial artist a supernatural air. Just in case, your systems are recording at max bandwidth.

Your files indicate that Rehema's kid, Harlan, age four, is currently in the TOL base in Central Africa, and since TOL is a lot sloppier than your system, the father is unknown.

# Answer Rehema.

# The spear is a strategic asset, sorry.

# Quickly generate an estimate on whether she's possessed.

This is probably the first Angel fight in which you have sustained no significant casualties; some of your techs will have to be demoted after doing such a horrible job on the sonics, but there are only four human bodies on the floor, and they're all of The Only Light.
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>>1079753
# Answer Rehema

"Let's talk, Predator Rehema."
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>>1079753
>Quickly generate an estimate on whether she's possessed.

>Lets talk but the spear is ours.
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I want to know who she wants revenge on, I want to know if her child is being held hostage. And lastly, I want to know if she wants to join team Omega.
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>>1079765
>>1079776
>>1079786

"I like that." Your forces operate on the workgroup system and don't have ranks per se, but it looks like the Last Army just gained a rank. In minutes, someone in one of your data centers uses the center's workshop to design, mill, and gild a gold-plated titanium medal with that desgination.

The few wounded are carted off to the medics, Mattie is quietly driven away back to his home none the wiser, and the fighters are given space and time to engage in whatever post-battle decompression ritual they prefer; TOL's fighters aren't different from yours in that respect. A few toke up, a few hit the vodka, most opt for water or energy drinks; Rahema is given a quick beer shower by whoever first had the presence of mind to grab a six back, thanks her comrades, and lets herself flop in the chair that was Mattie's, minus the restraints: unlike a revenant, she does feel fatigue.

She tells you a short story about Kyle, her baby daddy: a scrawny guy relegated by TOL's military-first policy ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songun ) to drudge work after having shown unfitness for combat, he completely turned around after getting her pregnant after a random hookup and ended up working himself half to death to make sure Rehema and Samwise, her son, had access to the few extra ration chits he could manage. Rehema was genuinely touched, and the two ended up in an actual romance, last year. Kyle died at his assembly line station, on his 100th birthday. His diary indicated that he knew it was coming, and intended to use the chits he had saved to have a party with his family, but had forgotten to take time zones into account and miscalculated by twelve hours.

"Just like that. They only noticed when it held up the assembly line. I was broken. I willed Samwise over to my niece and signed up for the next suicide squad."

A quick round of interview with the TOL drill workers confirms that conditions in the Last Army are not abusive, but harsh, primarily due to the leadership's perceived need to make up for what is seen as lost time and assets due to your actions.

You ask Rehema what she wants to do. "The only thing I seem to be any good at. The killing will never stop until God is dead".
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>>1079917
Does she want us to get her son or hire her?
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>>1079917
Well, looks like we get to negotiate with TOL again. And prepare one more angel trap.

Let's see about getting her son. Then let's see about having this lunatic train our martial artist.

>>1079929
Good question.
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>>1079929

"No! I...."

Rehema calms down; there is still fire in her eyes, but now it's red embers rather than a flame. In more practical terms, her telemetry indicates that she has snapped out of her martial trance. Interestingly, it seems that she has begun digesting Arariel's tissue and blood.

"Wait. Maybe. I need to rest. Not do anything stupid. So does the rest of the squad. May we rest for a day?"

You have retrieved Arariel's spear; it seems unsullied.

# Let Rehema reconnect with the rest of the squad.

# Offer VIP treatment.

You have collected quite a bit of data; unfortunately, Arariel succumbs to brain death, and all you have of it is a few vials of blood and some more tissue samples. A very quick autopsy confirms that Arariel's body type matches Ithuriel's.

# This is a huge propaganda coup, "leak" the video and let it go viral.

# Classify the incident for now.

# As a third alternative, let TOL take the credit about this one; Rehema is one of theirs, at least on the books. It might be a juicy morsel for negotiations.
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>>1079995
>Offer VIP treatment.
>As a third alternative, let TOL take the credit about this one; Rehema is one of theirs, at least on the books. It might be a juicy morsel for negotiations.
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>>1079995
># Let Rehema reconnect with the rest of the squad.

># Offer VIP treatment.

VIP all around for their first angel kill

># As a third alternative, let TOL take the credit about this one; Rehema is one of theirs, at least on the books. It might be a juicy morsel for negotiations.

"We will have to do the next one on our own, you killed the test subject before we could test the actual weapon. Congratulations by the way, we were very impressed."
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>>1080017
>>1080042

Rehema only accepts after her squad encourages her to do so; telemetry from the apartments where the TOL martial artists are shuffled to indciates that even your standard crew quarters are considered luxurious by their standards. Being taken to a nice hotel and told that it's all on the house, well... Not having the option to continue existing past 100, these people frak like rabbits; you'll have to order new sheets. Actually, administration will have to restock the bar. And the laundry room. Pacifica is home to three quarters of the world's remaining furry cons, however, so they are used to it.

Rehema herself is taken to the hotel's royal suite, finds a sewing kit, makes a proper mantlet out of the Angel-blood-soaked blanket she was given earlier, and falls into a deep sleep in the jacuzzi after filling it with scented conditioner.

After you send a low resolution, heavily watermarked edit of the fight, Monday is on the line immediately. He spends the better part of a minute bragging about The Only Light's fighters, and only stops when you interrupt him.

He preens when you pronounce yourself impressed. "But of course. We have trained for a millennium. The so-called God Almighty will rue the day He returns to us our leader, for it will mean the greatest comeback, the most decisive defeat, the most gargantuan victory of any foe over another in the history of mankind."

# Yeah, about the whole Satan thing...

# Great, great, whatever. Now here's what we want in return for the bragging rights, that is, the full footage without watermarks.
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>>1080083
Great, great, whatever. Now here's what we want in return for the bragging rights, that is, the full footage without watermarks.
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>>1080083
>about the whole satan thing...
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>>1080083
># Yeah, about the whole Satan thing...

Let's discuss Operation early parole.


># Great, great, whatever. Now here's what we want in return for the bragging rights, that is, the full footage without watermarks.

What do you anons think we should get?
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>>1080140
Rehema is obvious, other than that i don't know.
>>1080083
by the way how is our development of the light spider tank going?
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>>1080152

It has only begun. It's still the same year. (I thought this would move faster, but dice happened, and we got an interesting story out of it)
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>>1080152
Her child, secondly. And third she should keep that spear.
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>>1080155
The dice thing was very funny. And this year has had an entertaining story.
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>>1080140
The woman/team and child. Spear is ours cause satan uses swords
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>>1080205
Right. She gets to give her child whatever new living arrangements. She can decide to join us if she chooses. And she keeps the weapon no matter what.
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>>1080152
>>1080159

A quick comparison between video frames show that Monday is, if anything, surprised that the TOL martial artists mostly lived through the ordeal; he asks for some of them back, so that they may train others, but you'd end up with the bulk of the survivors. A quick check with a subordinates makes sure that Samwise will be delivered to a location of Rehema's choice as soon as she wakes up.

As for the spear, it would seem wisest to leave it with Rehema: the supernaturally sharp edge of it is only at the point, and can't really be used for much other than its intended purpose.

When you begin explaining about Satan, Sunday cuts in and says curtly that this is the third time you have this conversation, and that each of you will have to believe what they want to believe. "Satan was the first to rebel; how could he possibly be an agent of Yahewh?"

Monday, somewhat distressed by his boss cutting in, is inclined to agree.

# Sounds good.

# This was a bit too easy...
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>>1080205
>>1080226
Seems our main area of disagreement is the spear. Why do you want it?
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>>1080229
"Agent of the enemy or not, we shall see then. However there is one more thing we should try to do.

The only known successful demon summoning was done by the Antichrist. The demons were largely disappointing in my opinion, however. We currently have a large number of believers in Lucifer, those who mistake me for a god, Hephaestus, and a triple goddess. We also have the blood of an angel, as well as it's body, and enough occult lore to summon an army.

I propose to you that after we determine the usefulness of our weapon, we attempted to unseal hell itself."
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>>1080258
>those who mistake me for a god
We encouraged the worship, dummy.
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>>1080229
I'll back this >>1080258 excluding the fact people worship us and the blood of angels. However can we talk ONLY to monday? it seems he really wants to talk to us about Satan but Sunday keeps Also

>This was abit too easy...
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>>1080258
This entire dialogue is bad, don't tell them this, don't tell them of our plan to open a portal to hell.
Please don't write this in geist.
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>>1080268
>>1080266
>>1080258

(I'll wait on your decision)
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>>1080273
Fuck it, Lets see if we can just talk to Monday by himself, Without his boss cutting in Also this did seem WAY to fucking easy. I changed my mind, I won't back the other guy.

Let's see what Monday has to say about Satan and stuff sense he seems constantly interrupted and distressed
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>>1080266
>>1080268
The dialog may be bad, but I think the idea I want to get across is a bit different.

I want them to work with us in gathering as many non-believers of all the different faithes. Mainly theirs, ours and the others. So that a NC working can be fueled to pull Luci and the rest of hell out, including our assets.

It won't work with their numbers and it cannot work without the angel blood. That is the stuff that was flowing in Antichrist veins that allowed for the demon summoning.
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>>1080294
I support this as long as we don't say a peep about our portal to hell plan.
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>>1080229
So from what I get we keeping the spear, keeping the kid and keeping our troopers now, cuz damn it those kids are ours now after they preformed so well.

That being said I think this is a bit too easy, why are you lot so eager all of a sudden?
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>>1080298
No, when i suggested the hell portal plan i wanted to send assets INTO hell so we can get a base there and start recruiting the masses of the dammed, i'll support this idea of creating a mass summoning ritual later when we have taken over hell and can crush TOL in an instant with them.
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>>1080294
>>1080294
>>1080298

You tell Sunday to get off the line, but with little results. "Nonsense. It's more efficient if leaders talk directly. Surely a computer understands this."

TOL's internal network has been rebuilt specifically to keep you out of the most sensitive parts; this was accomplished by having living humans flip physical switches to commute highly sensitive calls. If you want to talk to any of the other Seven directly without Sunday butting in, it seems that you will have to deploy infiltrators to Antarctica.

>>1080301

Monday had mentioned wanting a few back, so that they may train the others in anti-Angel warfare; it seems to be their only request. TOL has been unusually meek these past few years; maybe you have indeed manage to subdue them for now.

As it is, your projections indicate that in case of total war between you and TOL, barring extreme tactics such as NBC bombardment, your forces would just about lose, leaving a severely weakened TOL having to deal with the Last Battle as best as they can. Their chances of success in that case require one of your few 64-bit computers to calculate other than "close to zero".


# Good enough for now. Infiltration plans will be prepared by your tacticians.

# Wait, there was something else...
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>>1080319
>Good enough for now. Infiltration plans will be prepared by your tacticians.

>make sure all those we're keeping are scrubbed and debugged and all that good shit

Don't want them suddenly turning a base into zombies or stealing tech or some bullshit.
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>>1080319
# Good enough for now.

>Hell nodes. Let's see if we got a reply.
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>>1080319
Onto the next year then!
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>>1080319
>Good enough for now. Infiltration plans will be prepared by your tacticians.
I want my spider tanks already.

By the way here is the final draft.

Light insect tank.
>Inspired by the Takemikazuchi tank.
>The legs are connected to a disk with a big tank turret on it's top.
>A small machine gun bowl turret on the bottom of the disc to prevent infantry from taking advantage of that weak spot.
>The turret has a sniping canon on its front, missile launchers on it's back and a shield with defense dedicated wubbers on it's surface and a autocannon on its opposite surface facing the front of the turret.
>The legs have 4 joints(1 is the connection to the disk) and end in 4 digit claws(If they can be adhesive they should be) and a compact wheel that can extend and contract from inside the leg.
>It is designed with retrorockets, unfurlable patagium's in the legs and pneumatics for combat drops from 40 meters high and 10 meters without retrorockets.
>The armor is light, allowing it to be transported by helicopter and giving it great speed at the cost of survivability.
This tank is designed for scouting and easy, quick reinforcement of positions, it also can function as a sniper with it's main cannon and as a hit-and-run with it's side autocannons.
It should weigh about 15-20 tons allowing for heavy lift helicopters to carry it into areas requiring reinforcement and a road speed of 70-80 mph allowing it to move rapidly, it should also be capable of climbing and clinging to semi vertical surfaces and has a screaming/wailing charge capable of psychological damage.
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>>1080370
Ah shit need to correct something.
>The turret has a sniping canon on its front, missile launchers on it's back and side shields with defense dedicated wubbers on it's surface and a autocannon on its opposite surface facing the front of the turret.
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>>1080332

The rest of the year passes quietly (as quietly as it can); Rehema is reunited with Samwise, and while she does not join your forces directly (despite her moment of pure rage, she would after all like to be a mother to her child, which is compatible with training others but not with taking on supernatural creatures mano-a-mano), she manages to improve your dedicated angel-fighting martial arts workgroup to the point that they can be considered their own unit within your command structure.

You hear about Capt. Weaver having been killed in a shootout after "liberating" one of the few cruise ships still plying the Atlantic. This has slowed her down somewhat, but not much. She misses feeling the wind on her face, though.

The Feast of Tabernacles happens on schedule, with very little drama and absolutely no references to the year's earlier jamming; analysis of the jamming itself shows that, this close to the Final Battle, territories that do not receive instructions from the Temple continue on with business as usual - jamming should be coupled with infiltration to be effective.

Chaim Rozenweig has figured out what's going on with the super-grain and super-thorns, summarily blamed TOL, and called for "labor brigades" to go to Europe and help remove the arboreal threat. This becomes a somewhat popular punishment for recalcitrant youth in other territories.

Government efforts to reduce internet use continue.

Your Hell nodes have been in a loop for the whole year, except for a brief moment, in which they were able to resolve a coherent chain of pre-thought. There doesn't seem to be any synchronicity between this and anything that happened in the world, though.
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>>1080394
>Tfw now we can just tell the kids to come join us and get revenge against god.
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>>1080394
>This becomes a somewhat popular punishment for recalcitrant youth in other territories.
Would be a shame if they were recruited by roman legionaries while in Europe.
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>>1080406
>>1080408
My thoughts exactly.
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You have 25 cabals total; of these, 3 are maintaining your systems, so 22 are available.

You establish a civilian and a military research grant for general improvements on your infrastructure; these will improve successful outcomes for nonviolent and violent actions respectively. Your aerospace program is a civilian one.

At this point, most of your population has metabolic extension controllers implanted preventively.

You are not tracking enemy teams.

Rules for allocating cabals and assets: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.html

Variable complexity / contested actions:

# Launch an attack on a TOL base or a govt installation.

# Work on global data network infrastructure, or improve its survivability in believing lands.

# Any interesting idea you might want to try.

# Deal with special situations.

Complexity 0

# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets or aerospace equipment.

C 1

# Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan)

# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.

# Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.

# Send a survey team anywhere (covert or overt) to look for trouble or to spy.

C 2

# Resume tracking.

# Use any base to produce army assets.

# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory.

# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments.

# Seed irradiated super-grain in a Christian territory.

# Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory.

C 3

# Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one.

# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).

# Use the launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch.

# Set up a pirate radio in a territory.

# Using your internet dominance, hack TOL.

# Infiltrate a believing territory for sabotage.

C 4

# Turn a base into a factory for heavy weapons production. The base will become unavailable for other uses, but allow for production of heavy armaments from now on.

# Convert 4 cabals into 1 infantry army size dot immediately

C 5

# Begin building a base somewhere.

# Recruit a new cabal
SPACE OPTIONS: PNR means parts not required. You control the territory your launch ramp and station are on, so you can launch 12 times per year.

# Near-space relays (PNR)

# Asteroid-belt relay satellites (PNR)

# Mining complex to Luna

# Manned mission to Luna

# Mining probe to asteroids

# Arkship construction
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>>1080507

>>1080507

ARMY NOTES

You have spent more CPU time than usual on a military, so a tracking system detailing its composition is now available; currently your forces are primarily mechanized infantry (literally, in some cases) that enjoy great flexibility, much more so than any pre-Appearing force, due to tight integration of autonomous tankettes, drone airplanes, hovercraft, and so on. This has been dubbed "Flexible Infantry" by your fledgling war office. Heavy land forces will include tanks, spider tanks, and long range artillery platforms if you ever develop them. Sea forces mean blue-water navy; your flexibility doctrine already covers brown waters. Air force means fighters and bombers, since your flexibility doctrine covers light ground attack aircraft, usually unmanned, as part of infantry support. Oddly, the militaristic fervor seems to come natural to your personnel lately.
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>>1080507
What the fuck is the titan?
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>>1080510
>hovercraft.
Wait what? We have hover tech?
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>>1080510
Also don't we have parts ready to go up or am I miss-reading things? And whats the cost for a base to produce the parts and/or outsource them?
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>>1080513

Hovercrafts have been a thing since the 1960s. Since seas are often calm in the Millennial Kingdom, and most land is flat, they have found some popularity again. There has never been much of a use for building giant hover-landship, although something depicted here will happily bumble itself pretty much anywhere in the world. (Image courtesy of the Greek Navy)

>>1080511

What titan? Not sure what you mean.

>>1080514

Sorry, my bad. Launching a part is a complexity-2 job. Producing a part is a complexity-2 job.
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>>1080510
>Oddly, the militaristic fervor seems to come natural to your personnel lately.

As so we shall become the Imperium.

># Use any base to produce army assets.
Six Cabals. We shall make that silencer drones. They will be to design anons specifications. These will swarm over NJ during the battle, angels shall be crippled.

># Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.
Four Cabals to jam transmission three places where NJ has it forbidden on map. Zak.

>Seven Cabals to capture A new angel. We're going to test the proper silencer on it.
Damien and Ithuriel.

>Three Cabals to produce knockout gas that can be fired by drone int NJ to knock out the believers Glorified population. Kat


Greenland and the last two Cabals both make space parts for the arkship. Jeb handles designing.
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>>1080507
>Asteroid-belt relay satellites (PNR)
>Mining complex to Luna 5 cabals put jeb.
>Recruit a new cabal 5 cabals, have legionaries recruit the labor brigades.
>Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments, west Europe 2 cabals.
>Turn a base into a factory for heavy weapons production. The base will become unavailable for other uses, but allow for production of heavy armaments from now on 4 cabals.
the west europe base that was a TOL weapon manufacturing base, give it a roman theme.
>Any interesting idea you might want to try.
Research the antichrist demon summoning and try to figure out a way to open a portal to hell, 2 cabals.
>Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets or aerospace equipment.
Spider tanks
>Arkship construction
Don't know how many cabals this needs.
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>>1080527
My bad, It says Titan Colony.

> Use your automated base in Greenland to produce aerospace equipment.

>Any interesting idea you might want to try. Send out Ithuriel and Zak to recruit from the poor kids stuck trimming back the super weed.
>Dig to expand the existing tunnel towards Night City. 2 Cabal Kat

> Build 2 Space Parts for the Arkship which is 4 Cabals
> Launch Those 2 Parts using another 4 Cabals.

>Mining complex to Luna 5 Cabals, Jeb
>Mining probe to asteroids 5 cabals
Damien

Let's get this started and put up there.

>>1080538
Bruh, the Arkship is 5
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>>1080540
Also too add onto this with our 2 remaining Cabals.

>Use any base to produce army assets. Whatever the fuck we need the most because apprently we RTS now?
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>>1080540
But it's in the SPACE section which doesn't list how many cabals are needed for actions like Mining complex to Luna and Near space relays.
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>>1080548
And right above it has another thing with a cost of C 5
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>>1080538

The arkship is a very large project; more so since its function will depend on what its destination is. However, some components (reactors, orbital maneuvering systems, crew habitat, etc.) are shared. Since the arkship is intended to be built in orbit and only ever touch atmosphere at the end of its service life, aerodynamics are not a concern, and every module can be built separately.

>>1080547

You need a way to stop or escape Yahweh's judgement.

Your military forces have been security/infiltration oriented so far; you currently have what has been dubbed "mobile infantry" or "flexible infantry", as explained in >>1080510
>>1080548

Each space option is complexity 2 for launch, complexity 2 for production, and you may need to man these with a cabal (this represents both the cosmonauts and the ground support crew that has to be assigned to the project permanently). I just put it under everything else for readability. If it makes more sense to put it under the C2 section, I can do that next time!
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>>1080551
But that would mean that the relay options each takes 5 cabals, which doesn't make sense.
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>>1080556
Can we save the parts that need a cabal to function for last or use an MEC dummy plug or something until its ready to launch?
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Problem with the plan I proposed? Anything that can work better?
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>>1080556
It's fine keep it in the 5 section.
>>1080538
replace arkship construction with
>Research hover tech, 2 cabals.
>Research robot tendrils, 2 cabals.
>>1074891
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>>1080557
eh, I already rewrote it, it will be easier to copy/paste/edit later :)

>>1080561

Yes, usually are launched unmanned first and populated later; see Salyut, Almaz, Mir, Skylab, ISS.


You have 25 cabals total; of these, 3 are maintaining your systems, so 22 are available.

You establish a civilian and a military research grant for general improvements on your infrastructure; these will improve successful outcomes for nonviolent and violent actions respectively. Your aerospace program is a civilian one.

At this point, most of your population has metabolic extension controllers implanted preventively.

You are not tracking enemy teams.

Rules for allocating cabals and assets: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.html

Variable complexity / contested actions:

# Launch an attack on a TOL base or a govt installation.

# Work on global data network infrastructure, or improve its survivability in believing lands.

# Any interesting idea you might want to try.

# Deal with special situations.

Complexity 0

# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets or aerospace equipment.

C 1

# Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan)

# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.

# Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.

# Send a survey team anywhere (covert or overt) to look for trouble or to spy.

C 2

# Resume tracking.

# Use any base to produce army assets.

# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory.

# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments.

# Seed irradiated super-grain in a Christian territory.

# Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory.

# Build aerospace parts.

# Do a space launch using parts you have built. If it's a lightweight probe and doesn't need parts, it will say PNR next to it. You control the territory your launch ramp and station are on, so you can launch 12 times per year.

* Near-space relays (PNR)

* Asteroid-belt relay satellites (PNR)

* Mining complex to Luna

* Manned mission to Luna

* Mining probe to asteroids

* Arkship construction

C 3

# Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one.

# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).

# Use the launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch.

# Set up a pirate radio in a territory.

# Using your internet dominance, hack TOL.

# Infiltrate a believing territory for sabotage.

C 4

# Turn a base into a factory for heavy weapons production. The base will become unavailable for other uses, but allow for production of heavy armaments from now on.

# Convert 4 cabals into 1 infantry army size dot immediately

C 5

# Begin building a base somewhere.

# Recruit a new cabal
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>>1080565
>>1080562
Uh Guys why the fuck don't we get the Arkship mostly out of the way first along with Digging the tunnels? What is left is for the army? This would ensure we have our stuff prepared to go and our 'fall' back is atleast in place. Cause right now it'll take us... 10?Years to get these programs done with us solely focusing on them. We don't need to suddenly 'focus' on a military because of the fact we don't WANT to do the heavy fighting. We want too sweep in and capture either Satan or Turbo Jesus not duke it out.
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>>1080562
The silence drone can be improved with robot tendrils like in my design here >>1079017
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>>1080568
I'm just gonna vote for what I have here >>1080540

Secure our Fuel, Get the astroid belt mining for more resources for our arkship and get the pieces up while digging the bloody tunnels.
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>>1080572
>>1080571
>>1080570

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichor

WE HAVE LITERALLY BEEN LETTING ANGEL BLOOD ROT IN STORAGE. WHY WHY WHY WHY. WE COULD HAVE CALLED DOWN THE FUCKING SANGUINOR BY NOW.
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Passing out for the night. God speed anons.

Plan for attack. Flood NJ with Gas in the opening seconds and immediately deploy all assets. Silence drones should be flying at the exact same moment that happens. If we're lucky, Til will be engaging in melee against angels for us. If not then we'll flood the battlefield with mask wearing martial artist. Containment chamber as well as proper silencers to be brought up through tunnels as soon as the Glorified start passing out. It's snatch and grab from here, all men are to converge towards TJ and slap him with the silencer, put him in the box, then drop the box underground while forces secure NJ. All this should happen within a span less than five minutes.

"Transcrib this to paper and delete it from my files. If it is brought up, it is to be deleted shortly after, with the paper record amended."
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>>1080590
Calm down my nigga, it can still be used, especially for the hell portal.
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>>1080590
uh.. Calling him seems bad.
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>>1080594
Good plan, i think i can add somethings later, especially if the hell project works.
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>>1080594

Also kinda passing out, work tomorrow. Thanks for playing!

>>1080590

"Ichor" is also the Scrin name for Tiberium but it doesn't mean Kane is going to show up next turn. >_>
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>>1080600
>>1080597
>>1080595

I'll read everything when I get up. Thanks for playing!
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>>1080571

Looks like a good design; the problem is that it won't ever fly very far by itself, but then again, it's a very situational weapon. You do have cloned flesh.

>>1080570

The first 10 modules of the Arkship are generic; at that point, you will have to pick a destination for her (I also recommend naming her something other than The Arkship).
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtfmvwyHuNs I'll leave this here if you want half an idea about the arkship.
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>>1080635
It's just adding tendrils to your design here >>1078955
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>>1080635
I will once we fucking get started on it.
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>>1080639
Tendrils add weight that the thrusters would not be able to counter. Also they reduce aerodynamics which are necessary to produce flight.
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>>1080657
The tendrils would be the lightest it can be while still having the capability to restrict targets, they can also wrap and fold so they aren't in the way of aerodynamics. The silence wubber would be more heavier that them.
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>>1080595

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bss5Ijpz6E&list=PLrTMTBWZV3TwsdPSvDEYkiS2QlMuGGFBs

We must summon HAROLD PENISMAN.
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We need to do multiple launches a year. What would that require QM?
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I'm back.
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>>1081325
It is 2
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>>1081348
I mean would it require multiple parts or multiple Cabals to do more than one launch.
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>>1081386
It takes 2 cabals to make a single part, 2 cabals to launch that single part and maybe 1 cabal to man the part but let's assume the first 10 modules don't need to be manned.
That means we need 8 cabals to build and launch 2 parts.
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Hey graves, can we put a turret with an autocannon on our golf cart drone and call it a light tank?
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So here is something interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAHrkK2IzmI
This tank looks like it would be great for our flat world, with it's only flaws being it's easy to see and hit size and it's complete incapability for soft boggy ground, these flaws seem easy to fix with our future tech by adjusting the weight distribution and making it heavy armored.
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I also have another idea, for a spaceship this time.

Forge ship.
It is a ship designed for mining and space construction, having a Forge, storage and hangar for mining/construction probes/ships. It will go to an asteroid belt, deploy it's mining ships and collect resources, then build pieces for another design and have construction ships assemble it in space, it can also send the resources to a planet using a spinal mass driver or shuttle.
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>>1081403
Do it. Pending getting ahold of a sword enoguh people can believe it of to NC "If God should bar your path, God will be cut", then "Off my planet" has the highest likelihood of human survival.
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>>1084511
What?
Your post is unreadable.
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>>1084534
unless we have a way to hurt the Yahweh behind the TurboJesus, the most likely way to keep any humans alive and unenslaved is GTFO.
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>>1085338
That is unneeded, as to our current understanding once Turbojesus is defeated by us and placed in the containment field, Yahweh will lose his power or at least a conduit for it on earth.


Although I do agree we need to get people off earth but I would argue we need to test the 100th birthday "death field" drop off, to see if mars is viable or not.

If mars isn't viable, then we will know we have two choices, fight or run to centauri. Assuming that the outer solar system isn't far enough away...
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>>1085356
>fight or run
>literally able to send a ship out in 10 years while still digging the tunnel and rebuilding our army.
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>>1085364
Except we wouldn't want to subtract resources from either effort.


I would point out that there is nothing stopping us from making an entire fleet of ark-ships, a veritable armada to colonise everything. Except us wanting to save the earth and having enough resources to do so.
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>>1085516
What I'm talking about. Agreed completely.
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>>1085516
Technically we can do both, we just have to focus on mining the solar system and quadrupling our cabal count.
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>>1085689
Reduce focus on mining. We need to focus on putting the population in space.
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>>1085720
Nah, focus on gaining mining and manpower then use them for putting the population in space.
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>>1085723
What if we work with TOL to colonise the solar system? Fact is that as much as we may dislike them, they can provide numbers and resources to create parts that we consider rudimentary. It's not like they have any launch sites of their own or anything to compete with our control of space using the given plans.


Basically what I am saying is outsource the booster stages and such to TOL in return for allowing them some tech or something. I imagine we could give them access to a lot of new drugs to addict their soldiers to, all with useful side-effects....
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>>1085787
>What if we work with TOL.
Bad idea, they have fucked us over in the past and their main goal is to have Satan usurp god, while they can help against believers and angels they can't know about our more important projects.
If you want more manpower support my hell portal idea >>1080538
so we can recruit the masses of the damned.
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>>1085828
Just tell them that these are for carrying rapid response drones, explosive / chemical / biological warheads and other such purposes.
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>>1085914
Problem is they will expect to see that. When they don't they will try to destroy it.
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>>1086153
Why would they though? It makes no sense...


If they want to kill god, then helping us is good in their books, since we have a mutual enemy.

If they want to eliminate us, then having us get off this earth is pretty much a great move to them, since it means we aren't going to contest their claim.


So where in these facts do they come to the illogical conclusion that the best course of action, after not seeing us use these weapons which realistically we would only ever use in the final fight, is to attack us. Instead of focusing their forces onto their own plan?
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>>1086238
>If they want to kill god, then helping us is good in their books, since we have a mutual enemy.
They have fucked us over before even though we weren't being aggressive to them, their goal isn't just to defeat god, it's to place Satan on his throne.

>So where in these facts do they come to the illogical conclusion that the best course of action, after not seeing us use these weapons which realistically we would only ever use in the final fight, is to attack us. Instead of focusing their forces onto their own plan?
You have to remember that TOL is prophesied to be the enemy of God in the end days, Because of that they are capable of illogical behavior as much as the believers.
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>>1085516
Last or the one before it. We need to focus on where to colonize. Asteroid belt is past mars. Female only lived too 100 and some hours. We need to leave too the other system if we want too survive.
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>>1086329
Except OP stated that the solar system may be safe. We need another two "data points" on the death graph to be sure.

So we need another two people to go up and die in space for us to know if we need to leave the solar system or just go to mars.
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>>1086336
>colonize mars
>Person past it died only a few hours after turning 100.

Right. Mars is the only other decent system to set up a real shop on
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>>1086361
I think weigher or not she has had a MEC implant comes into question regarding her "death"
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I'm back, let me catch up! Green card interview went well, as far as I can tell.
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>>1090798
Welcome back.
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>>1090922

Thanks! So, it looks like there are many military plans, but how are cabals assigned for this year? (Also, should we move to a new thread)

Research on hover tech falls under the military grant, since it is geared towards weapons platform, while research on "soft robotics" falls under the civilian grant since it has a lot of possible manufacturing and medical uses.
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>>1091069
well here are my posts.
>>1080538
>>1080565
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>>1091074

Got it! But there are 3 plans, which one do I go with?

New thread at >>1091325




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