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Welcome back, cadets, to the (early) seventy-third installment of Mecha Space Pirate Quest. I'm Wong, your host, and today you are UJCIDF SOUL Lieutenant Amos A. Wedge, known to the Avalonian forces on Qu'lir as the Blue Knight and pilot of the S-Delphinius Prototype.


Previous Threads: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Mecha+Space+Pirate+Quest%2C+Collective+Game%2C+mecha
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Mecha%20Space%20Pirate%20Quest
Master Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/sSHs0QmF
Upgrade Menu: http://pastebin.com/QQQzkFZe
List of Moves: http://pastebin.com/HSdyCe2y
Rogues' Gallery: http://pastebin.com/E9ZcDLfG

Right now, you are running out of a luxury hotel, more or less dragging your girlfriend Irina Gaunt, followed by your friend Garret Luxol and the Fleur sisters who compose the Three Black Stars, Lyanna, Lyra, and Lara.

Let's start this off with you rolling a few unmodified 1d10s, shall we? They're unmodified because they have different modifiers, which I'll add in personally.
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Rolled 9 (1d10)

>>1055175
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Rolled 3 (1d10)

>>1055175
Good to see you, Wong, I'm always looking forward to this...as is the friend I read it to, hehe.
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>>1055175
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Rolled 5 (1d10)

>>1055175
KESTRELS BANZAAAAAAAAAI!
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Rolled 4 (1d10)

>>1055175
Lets roll
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YOU ARE: Amos A. Wedge (Age 18)

Attractiveness: 7
Body Type: 10
Cool: 8 (Fast Talk & Persuasion +2, Intimidation +3, Leadership +3)
Empathy: 6
Intelligence: 8 (Awareness +3)
[Education]: +3
Luck: 7
Movement Allowance: 7
Reflexes: 10 (Dodge & Escape +6, Mecha Fighting +7, Mecha Gunnery +7, Mecha Melee +7, Mecha Missiles +7 Mecha Pilot +7, Melee +4, Hand-to-Hand +4 Handgun +4, Stealth +3, Zero-G +3)
Technical Ability: 8

Rookie Bonus: Anime Hero

Luck Points 7 (refreshes at end of session), Maneuver Pool 2 (refreshes at end of combat, otherwise identical to Luck)

Your Mech Is: S-Delphinius Prototype

Medium Weight Torso: C/S/K 12, 6 tons
Medium Weight Head: C/S/K 6, 3 tons
Light Heavy Left Arm: C/S/K 8, 3.5 tons
Left Hand: 2 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Light Heavy Right Arm: C/S/K 8, 3.5 tons
Right Hand: 2 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Medium Weight Left Leg: C/S/K 7, 3 tons
Medium Weight Right Leg: C/S/K 7, 3 tons

Armor: Officer's Light Heavy (7 SP, 10.5 CP, 3.5 tons) on all locations, does not ablate from damage caused by attacks dealing less than 4 Kills

Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 CP, 2 Spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Advanced Sensor Package (Head): 10 CP, 2 Spaces

Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Torso Storage Module (1 CP, 1 Space), Liftwire (0.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP), Weapons Cross Linkage (Repeating Beam Cannons 2 CP), Deluxe Anti-Theft Lock (0.4 CP), Stereo (0.1 CP)

Armament:
[Left Arm-Mounted] Amos Custom Hero Active Shield: DA 0, SP 12 (does not ablate from damage caused by attacks dealing less than 8 kills), 67 CP, 1 Space, 6 tons
[Left Arm-Mounted] Amos Repeating Beam Cannon x2 (stats show an individual beam cannon): Range 550m, WA +1, 8K, BV 3, Fragile (only 1 Kill of structure), 34.5 CP, 3 Spaces, 0.5 tons
[Right Handheld] Amos Custom Beam Lance: WA+2, 12K (only 2K of structure), EMW (treats SP as 4 less than usual), Quick, 41 CP, 8 Spaces, 1 ton
[Right Arm-Mounted] Amos Tactical Missile Array: Range 550m, WA +3, 10K (7K of structure), Fuse (Missiles can be set on a timer or detonated remotely), 10 Missiles, 29.5 CP, 7 Spaces, 3.5 tons

Thrusters & Speed: 5 per leg, 7 in the torso, 3 in the head, 1 per arm, moves 500 meters per turn in flight or can run 200m. 22 CP
Total Weight: 59 tons
Total Cost: 295 CP
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Rolled 9 (1d10)

>>1055175
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Rolled 3 (1d10)

>>1055175
First time rolling dice, let's hope I did good
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>>1055175
Oh sweet jesus, this is going to hell in a hand basket. Hopefully we can calm down simon and the squillia because I smell scenario boss.
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>>1055233
Scenario boss? More like Third Impact-we-all-gon-be-dead Boss. Remember what Maria said about Innsmouth?
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>>1055263
Yes, because I pieced it together last thread. Those things in the raptor was akin to a mandrake. The bio armor is basically talking to Simon and manipulating him through the Squillia. Unless we snap him out of it, this situation will go very bad.
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>>1055263
>tfw Innsmouth is literally "in the mouth" of an elder monstruosity from beyond our time.
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>>1055211
http://pastebin.com/sR0KhwEu
I updated the M-Sagiser Pastebin, I'm gonna leave any other mech building stuff for post-thread
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>>1055294
>inb4 people start turning into fish monsters
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>>1055330
>Bloodborne
>giant fish monsters
GG everyone we're dead Avalon won
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The scream rattles your bones. It's a mechanical sound, mostly, like the sound a flexible sheet of metal makes when you hold both ends and wobble it up and down wildly, only loud and distorted beyond imagining. It sounds angry. It sounds frightened. Despite being clearly mechanical, it also sounds paradoxically alive.

You turn back just long enough to see the S-Squilla ripping the restraint cables free, some of them dangling from its back where they tear in the middle rather than popping free from the sockets along its spine, but you don't stop running, out the door of the hotel and into the street.

As you do, the S-Squilla's tremendous arm smashes through the glass, sweeping around in an arc that sends razor-edged fragments tumbling down, tumbling down towards you. Fortunately, you have the reflexes of a young ace, and you have Irina to protect. You reflexively predict where the shards are going to fall and pull Irina out of the way, your friends following you.

“FATHER!” The S-Squilla roars. You wouldn't be surprised if your ears were bleeding from that awful tone, as another spasm rocks the earth. A building, one of the tall Jovian-style skyscrapers, shudders and starts to collapse, dust billowing into the air. You hear screams, some of them unfortunately cut off. There's a certain awfulness to it that you've never known on the battlefield, as the merciless hand of nature cuts those lives short. You try not to look at the bodies of some of the technicians who didn't make it out of the hotel, including a young woman desperately trying to resucitate a boy with a glittering fragment of glass as big as a dagger sticking out of his chest. A groundcar passing by swerves and fishtails, nearly flipping over, but managing to slam on the brakes in time. Through the window, you see the alarmed face of a young man, Martian. No uniform, but you don't really pay attention to that, you can assume he's military. You flag him down and grab the passenger-side doorhandle, throwing it open.

“We need to get to the ship!” You bellow, practically throwing the others inside.

“The ship?” He echoes. He must be in shock. Poor kid, he looks about your age, maybe a big younger.

“Yes, the ship! The Cicero! We need our mecha to stop him before he hurts anyone!” You glance at the rear-view cameras, spotting the S-Squilla headbutting its way out of the hotel, ripping itself free through sheer brute force.

“Ah, the Jovian ship. Say no more, effendi. By the way, what is that thing?” He asks, revving the sturdy sports-utility vehicle up and speeding away from downtown, towards where the Cicero is parked.

“Classified.” Irina barks, seeming to recover her head a little. She's been staring at the hotel in shock ever since the S-Squilla started screaming.

[Continued]
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>>1055338
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Also, I'm done checking the M-Sagister:
>then anon posted new pastebin.
Huh, interesting.

Anyway, the CP cost is okay.
But...
First, your weapons range are wrong.
The Sweeper range is 225m
And the missiles range are 675m.

Second, your missiles cost 4,875, you may want to round it anyway, but some anons seem to like to use even the centesimals...

Third... Do you know what will happen if your mech loses its head? Are you certain of that strategy when your head is your weakest point?
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>>1055338

You know, I never really got how if Kos, or as some say, Kosm died in the past it could theoretically grant eyes to people in the future.
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>>1055343
once again Moe finds himself in a completely weirdly fucked up situation
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>>1055343
>Moe, master of not giving a fuck
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>>1055343
>Then Ceasar appears in the the front seat.
"Nothing is really classified when you're a Iron Kestrel!"
>He looks at Amo's stunned face while smiling smuggly and using his new shades.
"Long time no see, huh?"
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>>1055351
Eldrich abominations don't really seem to care about the whole 'linear passage of time' thing Wong.
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>>1055351
Are you also questioning how a giant spider made of eyes is keeping a nightmare out of reality or how a dude howling with a cage on his head is a good boss fight?

Or how apparently you can turn into a squid if you eat umbilical cords?
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>>1055376
>"Long time no see, huh?"
>Not "Kept you waiting, huh?"
Big Boss is sad.
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>>1055390

Rom was a hero and Micolash is a great boss fight.

Also you turn into the squid because the umbilical cords were mutating you (giving you eyes on the inside), and destroying the Moon Presence completes the process of turning you into a true Old One.
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>>1055409
>he doesn't question why any of this shit is the way it is

>but time shittery concerns him

Wong pls. It's all a metaphor.
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“Don't worry, we've got five SOUL machines. We'll stop it.” Lara promises, her sisters nodding along.

“No!” Irina barks again, “No. I understand, girls, but...that thing could rip you in half, it was built to rival the Black Ogre.”

The Martian glances back at her, then turns his eyes again to the road.

“But-” Lyra protests.

“No buts!” Irina snaps, “Don't argue with me on this, damn it! Your Betta MPs aren't quite the same frame as a Knight, but they're about as sturdy. I've seen the footage of what the Black Ogre can do to those, and you should have too!”

“I would be happy to provide assistance.” The Martian boy notes, deftly swerving around another collapsing building in the nick of time.

“Can it fly?” Garret asks, craning his head around to watch as the S-Squilla tears its way free of the hotel as if emerging from a gigantic, glittering egg, shaking the glass shards from its frame and setting its eyes on the horizon. It begins to walk. A small office building stands in its way, and it casually steps onto the roof, crushing it down beneath its bulk. You use your PC to access the military commnet, meanwhile.

“No and no!” Irina shakes her head violently, “If the Betta MPs won't do any good, neither will a Scimitar. That thing has a Magnetic Grappling Harpoon.” She pauses, then starts to explain, “That is, a nanofiber cable stored in liquid form and extruded into solid fibers when needed with a signal from the guiding microdrones that form the grasper at its tip.”

“I know very well what a Grappling Harpoon is.” The Martian sounds hurt, slowing down to avoid a gaggle of Qu'liri being herded to safety by a large man with a mohawk and a beard. The man starts to approach and the boy waves him away, “We're alright!” He calls out to him, as the groundcar continues rolling, then he addresses Irina again, “I suppose a Scimitar would be of limited use against that behemoth. By Allah, I have only seen its like once before.”

You grunt in acknowledgment, “The Paladin.” You guess. He must be referring to the size of the S-Squilla.

“Yessss, the Paladin.” For a moment you almost think you saw him hesitate, but you suppose you would be distracted too. “What else could I be referring to, effendi? There are not many other mecha like that, no, not at all.”

“The Black Ogre, I suppose.” Garret remarks.

The Martian jumps, and swerves, avoiding a Qu'liri woman with a groundcar full of children. He waves apologetically to her, “Just as you say. As useful as it might be, alas it is not here.”

You're about to ask his rank, he's keeping a damned cool head for a rookie. The Martians don't really have a special unit for their aces and seem leery of sending them to SOUL, but it's possible he's someone you've at least heard of, when you spot something that makes your heart nearly stop, standing on top of a building.

[Continued]
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>>1055417
>implying that Wong isn't a Elder One.
Anon pls
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>>1055417

It's more that I wondered if Kos being properly killed just returned it to its home plane, or whether the "Kos" corpse is just a piece of the real Kos, or what.
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>>1055347
Updated the bin again: http://pastebin.com/sR0KhwEu
Managed to add backup sensors back on and moved the cockpit to the torso, had to shave down the head a bit and had to use the un-rounded cost of the missile pod and remove the stereo and lift wire.

This time for real, no more changes till post-thread.
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Bloodborne is a game where you fight various giant shaggy dogs. I don't know where everyone is getting eldritch bullshit from.
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>>1055427
Moe, you are fighting Garret for top boy position. Also, I hope you lot are paying attention, we've got some clues. If the Squilia is scared and angry, calming it down may be the best idea. Hopefully that Pooling idea works when it comes to the chat, because we will need it.
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>>1055448
Oh my sweet summer child...
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>>1055427
>Its the Kaiserswordfish
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>>1055499
>it's Bluegill Joe
>and Char
>in a Jaeger

We cross-franchise nao
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>>1055491
I'm just trolling, I beat it but you can't deny a large amount of enemies fit that description
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>>1055482
Also, I just realized Pierre is here too if he's the bearded man with the mohawk.
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>>1055509
Of that I had no doubt, and yes most of them do have worse hair that a meth-addled hobo.
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>>1055499
Oh yeah Brazil, don't check the Fist of Zeus yet, I looked at it and I realized I actually stopped updating it halfway through.
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A yellow robe that whips in the wind, and an almost featureless mask of pale wood. Tall, with what looks like an athletic build from what you can see outlined by the saffron cloth that enshrouds him.

“...Bane?” You whisper.

“From Batman?” The Martian asks quizzically. “You mean the masked man, yes?” He follows your gaze, and frowns, “That is Bane?”

“I don't understand, what is he doing?” You ask aloud as the man in yellow drops out of sight.

“What a strange-looking Bane. Should he not have body armor? On Mars, Bane wears armor.” The Martian sounds unimpressed.

“It doesn't matter what he wears, what matters is his plan.” You shake your head, “Innsmouth's Theater in the Park isn't doing anything today, we drove by there on the way here. Why dress up?”

“You would know better than I, effendi.” The Martian shrugs. Another rumble, and a jagged scar traces its way across the road.

You see Bane lightly hop down from the rooftop, putting the building between you and him. You're not sure why you have such a bad feeling about this.

The Martian doesn't stop to let you figure it out, gunning the engine and swearing in Arabic as he avoids the obstacles, getting you out of the city and to the ship. Finally, you're able to cut through the noise on the military commnet...or rather, Captain Clearwater does. For once, he's gotten the thing working correctly. At least, mostly correctly, he's much too loud.

"ALL UNITS, REPORT TO YOUR MECHA, INITIATE DISASTER RELIEF PROTOCOLS. INNSMOUTH GUARD, MOVE TO SUPPORT THEM. I'M IN TOWN, BUT I'M ON MY WAY BACK TO THE SHIP. JOVE GRANT MERCY TO US ALL."

"Tater Squad here. Permission to engage?" It's a Qu'liri-accented voice, presumably some of the Innsmouth planetary guard.

"Ziggy Squad, moving to support Tater Squad. Enemy mech in our sights." Another voice echoes.

"TATER SQUAD, ZIGGY SQUAD, BELAY THAT." Clearwater's voice isn't a yell, just loud. He sounds alarmed, "YOUR BLUEGILLS CAN'T TAKE THAT THING."

"We know, sir." Confirms Ziggy Squad's commander, "But we can slow it down."

Tater Squad's leader confirms, "This is our home, sir. Dying isn't a bad price for that. Commencing epoxy webbing!"

You hear Captain Clearwater snap to attention, "MINERVA PROTECT YOU, SOLDIERS. YOU'RE A CREDIT TO YOUR MECHA." He sounds a bit choked-up.

[Continued]
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>>1055448

In Japanese "Hunter" and "Dogcatcher" use exactly the same word. You're just catching those doggers and sending them to a good home.
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>>1055543
..Who is this masked man and why am I starting to get a Big O vibe to go along with the Evagellion shenanigans.
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>>1055568
I bet my bitcoins that he is a Paladin.
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>>1055572
Also... because I was lazy and copied my sensors from another person, they have 700 km range...
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Since we're talking about Bloodborne, just finished the Old Iron King in Ds2
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>>1055597
Great boss, I'd say it's way up in there in Souls boss design, right after Ancient Wyvern and Curse Rotten Greatwood.
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>>1055607

I always hated him because he's such a pain to fight solo with melee.
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“Amos.” Irina remarks quietly, “Remind me later, I need to talk to you. It's about the reentry system the Cavalier used to reach Qu'lir's surface.”

“What about it?” You ask, as the groundcar skids to a stop near the open mechbay doors of the Cicero. You undo your safety restraints.

“Do you not know what 'later' means?” She harrumphs, then sighs, apparently resigned to it, “Damn it, I don't want you distracted wondering.” She grabs your shoulder, and whispers fiercely, “Remember how I said that was new technology even for Bahamutcorp? Well, I collected some samples to confirm my suspicions and...I was right. It IS our technology. The logo is even still on it.”

“What does that mean?” You ask quietly.

She shakes her head, “I don't know. Like I said, we'll talk later. Now go! Go!” She sighs, “At least we hadn't installed the thrusters on the S-Squilla yet, that should limit it to walking for now.”

You've never got into your mecha and gotten airborne so quickly in your life, Garret flying alongside you.

“Hey, Amos.” Garret asks over the comms, “What are we going to do? I mean, that's Simon in there. We can't really...” His voice trails off. You know exactly what he's thinking of. Lives are at stake, but Simon has been your friend ever since the Academy.

>[What say?]
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>>1055627
We try and distract him, get him away from town. Keep him talking. By the sounds of it the machine is freaking out as much as he is. We need to snap him out. Irina, look at the data we collected does the color of the thread remind you of something else's color? I think something is messing with the Squillia.
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>>1055610
I'm about 95% certain the entire Old Iron King boss fight was designed around him pushing you into that stupid fucking hole near the fog door.
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>tfw the corps are working with avalon
>tfw Roarke really is the only hope for the galaxy
>tfw holy shit Moe has fluffy hair
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>>1055627
>"We keep him talking and try to calm him and his mech down... That thing is "alive", isn't it? I think that it may be "feeding" Simon with whatever it is sensing or feeling right now, and while we can't do anything about that our only choice is to try to reason with them to avoid both of them going beserker... Also, I'll try to hold him down while you protect my ass from external interference, okay?"
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>>1055351
Dont think too hard about it. Cthulhu is dead as well.
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>>1055652
You know... They are a monarchy... There is nothing but "The Queen felt like so" to block them from going "Ancap levels of production are back!" and buying the corps.

Or it could just be the typical case of a Corp selling to both sides and to make even more money, bonus points if it makes the war longer.
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>>1055641
Either way, we need a full report on it's capabilities. Get that Girl Simon likes. If the thing is controlled, Simon is our best bet in calming it down. That may require snapping him out of it by talking him down. Anyone who knows him might be able to help here but we are going to need a lot of it.
So the Plan is first: Get him out of the city and away from civilians. Try to communicate and slow him down. He looks like he's going somewhere. Let's stop that. Garret provide support. If it gets dangerous we go for the take down but as a last resort. Also, find out where that earthquake is coming from. It only started when the Squilia acted up.
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>>1055597
You better be playing a dual cestus build thunder. I was so disappointed when they nerfed it for dark souls 3
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>>1055677
>TFW Not!Anaeheim Electronics/Bahamutcorp has a division of Green Man Sympathizers
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>>1055713
Yeah, now everyone only uses them for parrying.
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>>1055713
Nope quality build with full Drangelic set after abandoning a miracles build
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>>1055714
Man, I bet they will sell the Tetra to Roarke if they could. Also, have some fitting music! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTST11Ybwg4
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>>1055723
>tfw still have a version of the game where miracles are strong as shit.
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>>1055646

That hole is the real boss.

>>1055723
>not Havel's armor, Havel's greatshield, and Red Iron Twinblade
>not invading Archdrake Shrine
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>>1055762
>Not dual wielding smelter hammers in your skivvies
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>>1055762
>>1055787
>Not going for maximum cancer and using the Smelter Helm, Havel Set and Hexes
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“We distract him.” You say simply, “Keep him talking. I don't think it's Simon doing this.” You plot Simon's course on your sensors, and curse. He's not following a road, not mostly, he's walking a straight line through buildings and roads alike, heading towards the edge of the city.

“What do you mean?” Garret asks, the S-Pyxicephalus' head swiveling towards you.

“That fungus we found, those weren't the famous Green Men spores. What if it's some kind of degnerated mandrake?”

“A what?” Garret asks.

“The plant thingy the Paladins and S-Squilla have. The one that powers up their mech and makes it more responsive. Think about it, it's like a living HMIS, right? So it can interact with living things, but because it's biological it's not as predictable as ours.”

“It's still dumb to call it a mandrake.” Garret grumbles.

“So why is it here? How did it get here? What if there's more? What if they're communicating with the S-Squilla somehow, calling it?” You ask.

Tater and Ziggy Squads are missing a few people, and as you watch, the S-Squilla fires its magnetic grappling harpoon from its mouth, grabbing ahold of an unlucky Bluegill, yanking it in, and crushing it. Epoxy webbing criss-crosses the road in all directions but one, hard as cement, but it doesn't seem to stop the juggernaut tearing through it as though it were cobwebs.

“It sounds like you're panicking, Amos. Maybe they are and maybe there aren't, let's not get into any conspiracy theories until we know more. Right now, the objective is right ahead of us.” Garret warns you, "Even if you might be on to something. Simon's dad abandoned him, right? Plus his stepdad's dead. What father is he talking about?"

You nod, “Right.” You flip your comms to the general channels, “Good work, guys, we'll take it from here.”

You open vidcomms to Simon.

[Continued]
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Game continues in an hour so Wong can eat.
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>>1055815
>the S-Squilla fires its magnetic grappling harpoon from its mouth, grabbing ahold of an unlucky Bluegill, yanking it in, and crushing it
It's like a giant bio-mechanical Yoshi.
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>>1055834
>It's like a giant bio-mechanical Yoshi.
You say that like Yoshi isn't a regular sized bio-mechanical Yoshi
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>>1055815
>S-Squilla fires its magnetic grappling harpoon from its mouth, grabbing ahold of an unlucky Bluegill, yanking it in, and crushing it.
i hope those pilots know to eject when the grapple gets their asses.
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>>1055815
>I feel like a child again, watching a action show without even blinking right.
>And then the commercial break came.

WHY WONG!? WHY YOU MUST EAT!?
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>>1055843
You say that like the S-Squilla isn't a regular sized Yoshi on this dimension.
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>>1055834
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>>1055874
shit wrong pic
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>>1055869
You say that like the S-Squilla isn't a Mekton scale Roadstriker
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>>1055876
>implying an EVA could beat godzilla
>implying anyone can beat godzilla
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>>1055891
Well Shin Godzilla got beaten in the movie so...
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>>1055898
Still waiting to see that but I'm going to bet hes coming back.
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>>1055815
Ohhhhhhhh noes.
we messed up, the S-Squilla isn't talking about the Paladin or even about the Elder thing.
Its talking about Amos.
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>>1055898
there was also the american godzilla.
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>>1055904
THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN DON'T EVER MENTION THINGS THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN
God that movie was so bad
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>>1055903
It gets in range of us and proceeds to bear hug us. Thats it, aside from calling us father. Garret is laughing both out of the hilarity and madness of it all.
>>1055907
DO NOT AVERT YOUR GAZE. WE SHOULD NOT BURY THE PAST, BUT TAKE IT AS A SIGN OF SHIT TO COME FROM HOLLYWOOD.
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>>1055907
It was so bad that the company that made the original godzilla bought the rights to it just so they could kill the bastard in a movie. Say what you will, that is hatred right there.
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>>1055904
Retconned into a separate monster.
>>1055907
It actually shows up again in final wars for about 20 seconds.
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>>1055907
>>1055903
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>>1055922
>>1055919
>>1055907
>>1055898

So... In what order should I watch the movies?
And from where I should begin?
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>>1055907
>tfw you thought that movie was okay

I have definitely seen worse movies.
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>>1055919
You know... Lets open this by bear hugging him with all of our love.

Who seconds this?
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>>1055948
I've no idea. It's like watching the entirety of Gundam in order, there's like 50 different movies.
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>>1055958
..you do realize this thing likely has a bite attack if it just munched the bluegill. Bearhugs would only deal with it's arms. Besides, I would rather get it out of the city first before doing anything.
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>>1055965
hug it from behind then, problem solved unless it can rotate it's neck like an owl
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>>1055948
Might as well watch them in release order, all the way from 1954 to now. Ain't like they were made to be one coherent universe, so might as well watch them all.

Although you should definitely watch Godzilla the Series. It's pretty fucking good.
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>>1055960
31.
>>1055958
I cant see the logic in attempting to use wrestle with a mech that specializes in hand to hand.
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So just as a heads-up the S-Squilla costs 463 CP without any thrusters and before multiplying by 1.5 for its bio-energy cool powerplant (mandrake).
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>>1055979
>463 CP
WTF IS THIS THING PACKING?
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>>1055979

Part of this is because of its primary weapons, which are a discarded version of the Kaiser's.
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>>1055979
Well that is horrifying. IRIN YOU BETTER HAVE WEAPON AND DEFENSE DATA ON THIS THING, WE ARE NOT FIGHTING IT BLIND.
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>>1055979
>436

>before 1.5 multiplication.

aaaaa
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>>1055994
wait, what do you mean by discarded? As is in the kaiser's old clothes or 'woah-ho, no way can we use this stuff! It's too expensive and dangerous!'
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>>1055994
Laser claw things right?
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>>1055987
Schlongs.

BIG
BLACK
GIANT
SCHLONGS!
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>>1056007
More like,
>What can we do with the Black Ogre if we had access to Greenman Tech, unlimited budget, and no sense of right or wrong.
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>>1055979
>463CP
>Before Thursters
>Before x1.5
I laughed it off when she said that it was made to rival the Kaiser... But now it isn't fun anymore...

You know what, if he wants it, just lets it bearhug the Paladin, if they survive a raging madrake killing everything on sight who gets in the way to hugging a Paladin to death they just deserve to win this...
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>>1056007

I mean I considered it until I calculated the cost. For the S-Squilla I improved it somewhat.

>>1056008

Yes. It's literally fighting with the in-setting equivalent of an AT-field produced from its arms. You'll see the stats soon.
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>>1055979
>and then big dick Roarke walks in and rolls like a shining golden god and stomps it into the dirt before fucking Simon's girl and leaving with Irina

Standard operating procedure.

I'm using humor to mask my fear, someone hold me.
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>>1056021
>I mean I considered it until I calculated the cost. For the S-Squilla I improved it somewhat.
jfc
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>>1056021
>It's literally fighting with the in-setting equivalent of an AT-field produced from its arms
WAKE ME UP INSIDE
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>>1056021
It really is a anti Roarke Machine. Gods damned thats a horrifying combo. Especially if going full power and using +3 accuracy.
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S-Squilla


Light Heavy Torso: C/S/K 14, 7 tons
Light Heavy Head: C/S/K 7, 3.5 tons
Light Heavy Left Arm: C/S/K 8, 3.5 tons
Left Hand: See Armament
Light Heavy Right Arm: C/S/K 8, 3.5 tons
Right Hand: See Armament
Light Heavy Left Leg: C/S/K 8, 3.5 tons
Light Heavy Right Leg: C/S/K 8, 3.5 tons

Armor: Officer's Medium Heavy (8 SP, 12 CP, 4.0 tons) on all locations, does not ablate from damage caused by attacks dealing less than 4 Kills

Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 CP, 2 Spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Advanced Sensor Package (Head): 10 CP, 2 Spaces

Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Torso Storage Module (1 CP, 1 Space), Liftwire (0.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP), Weapons Cross Linkage (Barrier Fists 6 CP), Deluxe Anti-Theft Lock (0.4 CP), Stereo (0.1 CP)

Armament: The S-Squilla is a remarkably simple yet expensive machine. Its hands have numerous small vents that allow it to project a plasma “mitten” inside of a dense A-Particle sheath over its hands and down its forearms, producing the equivalent of a beam weapon that can tear apart anything in its path, along with serving as a shield. It also has a head-mounted Magnetic Grappling Harpoon, and an electrifying bite
[Hands] Barrier Fists x2 (stats show an individual fist): WA+3, 10K (only 2K of structure), EMW (treats SP as 4 less than usual), Handy, Quick, Variable (can be converted back and forth as a free action between its sword form and a beam shield form with 8SP and DA 0), 140 CP, 8 Spaces, 1 ton
[Head-Mounted] Magnetic Grappling Harpoon: Range 400m, WA 0, 0K (8 Kills of structure), Entangling (can deliver grapple attacks), 7 CP, 1 Spaces, 4 tons
[Head-Mounted] Fearsome Maw: WA +0, 6K, AP, Shock (in addition to normal damage), 25 CP, 4 Spaces, 3 tons

Thrusters & Speed: TBD

Special Systems: Bioenergy Powerplant (Mandrake). Total CP x1.5

Total Weight: 59.5 tons
Total Cost: 463 CP (694.5 after mandrake adjustment)
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>>1056041
>inb4 Belphegor appearing in a even more overpowered mech and stomping it so hard that even Duke Kirito can feels his pain. From Sol. EVEN IF HE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN MANDRAKE-MAGIC BULLSHIT.
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Excuse me for a minute
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>1056052
>[Head-Mounted] Fearsome Maw: WA +0, 6K, AP, Shock (in addition to normal damage), 25 CP, 4 Spaces, 3 tons
Ahhhhhh...
>[Hands] Barrier Fists x2 (stats show an individual fist): WA+3, 10K (only 2K of structure), EMW (treats SP as 4 less than usual), Handy, Quick, Variable (can be converted back and forth as a free action between its sword form and a beam shield form with 8SP and DA 0), 140 CP, 8 Spaces, 1 ton
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>1056052
Yeah, shock weapons.
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>project a plasma “mitten”
"This hand of mine glows with an awesome power, its burning grip tells me to defeat you!"
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>>1056052
Fuck.
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>>1056052
>MFW when it has MA+12 so most line mechs can't run away from it
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>>1056052
Honestly, that isn't nearly as bad as I feared.
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The only saving grace about this entire situation is that we didn't have our bits when they built this so they have no countermeasure planed for them
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>>1056052
>[Head-Mounted] Magnetic Grappling Harpoon: Range 400m, WA 0, 0K (8 Kills of structure), Entangling (can deliver grapple attacks), 7 CP, 1 Spaces, 4 tons
Wrong.
it should cost 14,5CP.


About the rest... Eh, I'm dissapointed, I though that it would be way worse.
The only thing that really makes me worry is the "Fearsome Maw", But the gloves are "only" Kaiser-level, and the shields do nothing against strong enough weapons.

In fact, if it tries to block Amos's Lance, it would destroy the shield for the rest of the fight, if I'm not mistaken.

We can probably just take away its limbs if we we want to... But lets try the power of friendship first.
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>>1056118
I think the counter measure for the bits is 'get in range of the Squillia'. This thing is god damn horrifying with that accuracy and bio plant.
>>1056121
First off, 8 kill melee weapon is 4 cp. entangling increases it to 5. 2 cp are needed to bring the spaces down. It's legit.
And that shield is strong enough to block the blows. You need to do double the damage to short out those shields. So it can indeed block our hits. Infact, it would be just strong enough to take no kills from the first hit.
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>>1056052
Hey Guys, whats going on.......

>What a day to over sleep
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it currently doesn't have thrusters implemented yeah? so we blow off its legs forcing it to crawl with its hands... this thing is starting to remind me of the burning cleric beast fight from the bloodborne dlc
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>>1056052
Its actually got a pretty shitty range on its harpoon. Shooting it from range is a valid option. Anyone got any old Ajax Sniper Canons to equip our Pumpkinseeds and Betta's with?
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>>1056140
And you know what the kicker is? That shield is just strong enough to fully block our own punches and does not degrade. In a drawn out fight the Squilia would win just due to attrition.
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>>1056140
Oops, you are right, my mistake on the grapple, as I probably expected it to be quick.

About the shield... I was wrong in the duration of the malfuction, but 9k is enough to shut it down for the rest of the turn, so he can only block 2 attacks out of 4 each turn... what isn't a very good deal for him.
Also, you forgot about the "EMW ignores 4 SP" part, so Amos's 12k can indeed shortcircuit it for good.
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>>1056175
EMW does not affect energy and reactive shields.
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>>1056173
Aren't those shields not active shields though? No autoparry. And he still needs to successfully parry the attacks.

It's entirely possible for Roarke to drown it in fists. Especially if he destroys one arm then it can't block from that side due to shield coverage and how it works, right?

I have no idea what is going on, since I can't understand the rules enough to try.
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Rolled 3 + 5 (1d10 + 5)

You get out your PC and start typing to Irina, hoping to get some data on this thing. Fuck classification, you're well beyond the point of protecting Bahamutcorp trade secrets.

Simon accepts at the same moment Irina returns your message. There's a file attached, and you open it up...but you're more concerned with your friend.

Simon is hanging in his cockpit, the white tendrils attached to his helmet have wrapped themselves around his limbs, holding him aloft like a marionette. His arms move in a limp imitation of the swinging haymakers the S-Squilla is using to remove buildings from its way, and his legs sway as if marching. He looks like he's asleep, but he's smiling.

“Simon. C'mon, Simon, snap out of it.” You call out to him. “It's time to wake up.”

“Amossss?” His head tilts one way, then the other, almost drunkenly, “I...I'm sorry, Amos, I don't know what's going on.”

“Father, I'm coming!” The S-Squilla roars in Simon's voice, “I'm stronger than ever, stronger than anyone! Nothing can stand in my way now! I'm not a weakling anymore!”

“Simon, somehow your mech took control from you. Take it back, come on man.” You look down at the file, you can't help yourself...and then you abruptly wish you hadn't. A bead of sweat trickles down your forehead beneath the visor of your helmet. Why? That's the only question. Every mech designer boasts about their work, claims it's the best, the ultimate weapon, why did Irina have to be so honest and so competent!? “Just hit eject.”

“Amos...” Simon's eyes open slightly, and he reaches out, his fingers grasping at nothing, “I'm sorry. In the end, I really wasn't strong enough. I never should have become a SOUL pilot. This thing, I'm not riding it. It's riding me. I can feel it, digging around inside my brain, learning how I fight, using it. It's making me remember every sim I've ever done, every fight I've ever been in, all at once. It's...I can't explain it. Please, Amos.” His eyes open wide, anguish shining bright in his face, “Just aim for the cockpit, I can't control it for long!” The S-Squilla's entire frame trembles and slowly, meter by meter, it spreads its arms wide, exposing its torso.

You activate the S-Delphinius' lance, hovering on your thrusterjets, “You know I'm not going to do that.”

Simon lets out a choked sob, his eyes jerking crazily all around, his body thrashing as if electrocuted...and then abruptly going limp.

Rain begins to fall again. Just like when you fought the Paladin.

Lightning crackles in the S-Squilla's maw. The remains of the Bluegill smolder in its grip as its hands and arms start to shine. A beautiful, pearlescent radiance, all colors and none, glistens from them, interlapping layers of A-Particle sheaths and contained plasma. It tosses the smaller mech aside, and roars. Raindrops hit its hands and burst instantly into steam, clouds trailing its shining fingers as they curl into fists.

>[1d10+5]
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>>1056173
NO, it isn't.
It blocks just 8SP, as the arms bonus do not apply.

What happens is that the first hit gets ignored by the Beta armor, bu then the linked one do full damage on his arm, doing 6K to the arm and ablating the armor by -1SP .
Then his shields goes down.
And he loses his arms in the next hit he receives.
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>>1056180
Its also heavier than the Knuckle Kaiser. Combine that with Roarke's higher dice rolls and I would still give the fight to him.
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Rolled 10 + 5 (1d10 + 5)

>>1056181
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Rolled 6 + 5 (1d10 + 5)

>>1056181
+2 luck. We are not letting it get initiative.
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Rolled 7 + 5 (1d10 + 5)

>>1056181
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Rolled 10 + 5 (1d10 + 5)

>>1056181

>>1056195
Jesus elo
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Rolled 7 + 5 (1d10 + 5)

>>1056181
to de-limb the the berseker robot or somehow ripout the cockpit unit
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>>1056180
Same goes for roarke though.
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>>1056190

Shields, yes, plural.

Only one would get knocked out from blocking the monstrous lance of the S-Delphinius...but that raises another question, is close combat really how you want to fight this thing? It's a high risk, high reward strategy.
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>>1056181
>Simon lets out a choked sob, his eyes jerking crazily all around, his body thrashing as if electrocuted...and then abruptly going limp.

Alright fuck it. Lets take down this monster. No monster takes control of our friend.
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>>1056209
I was talking Squilla VS Kaiser.

But with Amos?

Missile his legs out, spend some luck on it too.
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You've handily won initiative. Will you...

>[Engage in melee, using both actions to attack]
>[Drop missiles on it, using both actions to fire missiles]
>[Ascend and drop missiles on it, using one action to take flight out of reach and the other to open fire with your missiles]
>[Fire your double-barreled beam cannon, using both actions to shoot]
>[Ascend and fire, using one action to take flight out of reach and the other to open fire with your guns]
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>>1056224
>>[Ascend and drop missiles on it, using one action to take flight out of reach and the other to open fire with your missiles]
AIM FOR DAT LEGS!
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>>1056224
>>[Ascend and drop missiles on it, using one action to take flight out of reach and the other to open fire with your missiles]
get in the air and blows its legs out
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>>1056224
>[Drop missiles on it, using both actions to fire missiles]
>Keep trying to make Simon snap out of it
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>>1056224
>[Ascend and drop missiles on it, using one action to take flight out of reach and the other to open fire with your missiles]
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>>1056224
>>[Ascend and drop missiles on it, using one action to take flight out of reach and the other to open fire with your missiles]
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>>1056224
>[Ascend and drop missiles on it, using one action to take flight out of reach and the other to open fire with your missiles]
Ey gurl, them's some nice legs...
God, why can't I stop? Why did you make me this way?
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>>1056224
>>[Ascend and drop missiles on it, using one action to take flight out of reach and the other to open fire with your missiles]

It really sucks to be a citizen of Innsmouth right now
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>>1056219

The Kaiser has one big advantage, to my mind, in that it's piloted by Roarke, who is as canny as canny gets and has a lot of experience with brawls...and is also quite willing to cheat. He might just keep distance, use his drones and harpoon to immobilize the S-Squilla's limbs, force it into a situation where his higher grappling pools apply, then tear it apart with the Kaiser's actual hands once the arms were pinioned.
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>>1056205
Roarke has far higher ranged capability than the Squilla, though. He can sit outside of the range of its Harpoon because it doesn't have the great shit Grapple-chan has and hit the Squilla with bit fists until either the target or the bits are disabled.

Honestly the KK's waifu upgrades really give it an edge.
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>>1056224
>>[Ascend and drop missiles on it, using one action to take flight out of reach and the other to open fire with your missiles]
Fire at it's legs. Talk to the both of them. I think the Squillia is talking about the Paladin it came from, the Gerard.
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>>1056229

You remember that aiming for a specific servo with ranged weapons inflicts a -2, right?
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>>1056255
This is why we are spending luck on this one, Right, my brothers!?

I Vote for 3 missiles and 3 luck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JB8xizXnT0
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>>1056224
>>[Ascend and drop missiles on it, using one action to take flight out of reach and the other to open fire with your missiles]
3 missiles 3 luck
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>>1056255
the -2 might be worth the risk if we can take out even one of its legs, without its thrusters we would gain a huge advantage
I vote for the called shot to the legs
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>>1056298
worded that poorly
Since it has no thrusters we would gain a huge advantage if we could take out even one of its legs
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>>1056255
Also... Please say to Simon.

>"C'mon Simon, don't you remember what I told? A soldier can fall but cannot stay down... Are you really going to fight with all that you got and give Roarke a run for his money or are going to force my hand to slap you again!?"

Then say to Squilla through Amos's stereo:
>"Hey, weren't asking for your dad? Guess who is here?!"
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>>1056309
>What I told you*
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Feed me 1d10+12s. I'll add in the +6 from Accuracy and Luck to your missiles myself.
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Rolled 3 + 12 (1d10 + 12)

>>1056309
...thats a guy in those picture iirc, I thought you didn't like samantha?
>>1056330
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Rolled 9 + 12 (1d10 + 12)

>>1056330
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Rolled 10 + 12 (1d10 + 12)

>>1056330
Here we go
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Rolled 6 + 12 (1d10 + 12)

>>1056330
Add 2 luck
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Rolled 6 + 12 (1d10 + 12)

>>1056330
Time to save our buddy
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Rolled 1 + 17 (1d10 + 17)

Meanwhile...Garret, also spending 3 luck.
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>>1056334
good god thats 2 10's in a row for you right?
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>>1056332

>>1056333
>>1056334
It ALMOST went well...
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>>1056339
God damnit, Garret.
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Rolled 9, 2 = 11 (2d10)

>>1056332

I meant +4, I almost forgot the called shot.

>>1056339

Same here.
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>>1056339
I guess Moe's best boy now.
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Rolled 3, 2 = 5 (2d10)

>>1056333
>>1056334

And Simon's attacks at +14
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>>1056332
If it's wearing a skirt it's a girl, anon.
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>>1056365
Or Scottish.
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>>1056365
excuse me, Girl(male) then.
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Rolled 9, 4 = 13 (2d10)

Almost forgot.
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>>1056384
Talk shit about kilts one more time I dare you.

Comfy af desu senpai
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Rolled 5 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1056394
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>>1056395
They might also be some sort of witch doctor.
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>>1056401
Or hawaiian
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>>1056405
If you really get down to it a toga is basically a skirt.
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>>1056415
Next you'll say robes are skirts.

Hell, pants are just really tight skirts.
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“Garret, cover me.” You order, taking flight along with the S-Pyxicephalus, “Aim for the legs, we don't want to hurt him.” You send him the file, and hear him swearing. The stout beam gatlings in the Pyxicephalus' forearms orient on the legs of the rampaging S-Squilla as the front of the S-Delphinius' right pauldron opens up to reveal a circle of ten needle-tipped missiles. Three of them fire at once, aimed for the S-Squilla's legs.

You didn't expect it to be so fast. It leaps back away from the missiles. You hold off on detonating them as they land in the road. Garret opens fire too with a fusillade of shots from both arms, but again the S-Squilla leaps out of the way like a cat, landing on all fours. It roars, firing its harpoon. The nanofiber cord licks at your mech, but you're no slouch yourself and avoid with ease.

“Simon, remember what I told you? It's alright for a soldier to stumble and fall sometimes, but he can't stay down. Are you really going to give it your all? What happened to surpassing Starwind!? Did you forget about that!?” You slam your fist against your console, “I won't let you forget your dream! I'll smack you again if you do!”

A thin lance of ghostly plasma arcs through the air from a distance, hitting the S-Squilla in the left kneecap (-1 SP, 7 remaining, -3 Kills, 5 remaining). Your sensors register a Palomino II at maximum distance, one with an Iskander rifle, and you hear another voice, “That's my job! Simon, wake up! You promised me...” You hear a sniffle, and Catherine Nedermeyer's voice raised in a wail, “You promised me we'd go to the arcade after your test run! You idiot!”

The S-Squilla stumbles, and you hear Simon's voice, dreamy and confused, “Cathy? I-I'm sorry, I guess I forgot...”

>[More missiles?]
>[Nah, beam cannon]
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>>1056435
>>[Nah, beam cannon]
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>>1056435
>[Nah, beam cannon]
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>>1056435
>[Nah, beam cannon]
>inb4 Cathy's the only one that lands a hit again
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>>1056435
>>[Nah, beam cannon]
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>>1056435
>>[Nah, beam cannon]
>Have Noriko keep talking to him
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>>1056332
>Implying that my dislike for Samantha means that I hate traps.

I think that you could call one of my best friends a trap if you knew him... So no, I don't hate them.
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>>1056434
Pants have two slots for your legs which no skirts have. A toga and a dress are mechanically identical and are roughly the same length much of the time.
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>>1056435
>>[Nah, beam cannon]
cap his knees quick
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Rolled 2 (1d10)

Beam cannon it is. Spending Luck? With your Maneuver points, you have 6 remaining.
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>>1056452
Also, I think that he was secretly in love with me for years now, but I have no idea on how to deal with that if this is true, so I try to just blame it on my paranoia.
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>>1056467
fuck him
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>>1056467
>not requiting someone's love for you
Are you gay?
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>>1056456
>which no skirts have

Except all those skirts nowadays with built-in hotpants and shit. Only a sith deals in absolutes.
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>>1056467
But that time he got into my bed in the middle of night and starting browsing 4x2chan on his phone while watching me sleep when he thought that I was asleep was very, VERY STRANGE.
And Yes, he is okay with me calling him "him" and not "her", don't ask me why, I don't know either, and things got strange last time I asked, so I'm not intending on doing it again...

PLEASE SEND HELP, NOBODY PREPARED ME FOR THIS.
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>>1056467
Brazil, every time you start talking about your personal life, I have like a hundred questions.

Also, pic related.

>>1056477
Brazil. Pls. Pls. I have no idea what advice to give you. I can only tell you what I would do.

Again, pic related.
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>>1056467
4chan standard operating procedures dictate that you call him a faggot. Though to be fair thats 4chans answer to everything.
>>1056475
But thats just a hot pants with a single overly long frill.
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>>1056452
(mostly intended that post as a joke)
I never did quite get what you didn't like about sam, whatevs back to desperately fighting a melee monstrosity.
>>1056460
2 luck please

>>1056467
>>1056477
I'm glad I don't have a life, having an actual life sounds very tiring and stressful..
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>>1056482
>But thats just a hot pants with a single overly long frill.

Not when it says "skirt with ---" on the tag.
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Rolled 2 + 15 (1d10 + 15)

Feed me 1d10+12s.

Here's Garret's roll, again spending 3 luck.
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Rolled 10 + 12 (1d10 + 12)

>>1056460
Don't think so. At least for the fact we have two shots with this. I would like to save it for the critical parries to avoid getting caught.
Also, "Then remember! Remember all the good you have done. You helped us constantly when we were in a bind, you've been by our side, and fought through shit before! We even dragged Garret through a rainstorm to base together! You don't let your machien control you, you control the machine! Now how about you give that bugger a stern talking to and get back into control!
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Rolled 10 + 12 (1d10 + 12)

>>1056491
jeeze garret
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Rolled 3 + 12 (1d10 + 12)

>>1056491
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>>1056489
Hey man, a clothes horse isnt a horse you put clothes on.
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Rolled 6 + 12 (1d10 + 12)

>>1056491
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>>1056491
God damnit, Garret. It's been way too long since I used the dice, let's see if I got this shit right...
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Rolled 2 + 12 (1d10 + 12)

>>1056491
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Rolled 1 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1056491

Man, this is just not Garret's day.
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Rolled 7 + 12 (1d10 + 12)

>>1056491
>MSBQ, where anons argue over the intricacies of lower body coverings and Brazil talks about his trap friend that wants to fuck him
I can't say this is surprising.
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>>1056497
Have I been doing it wrong all this time?
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Rolled 4 + 12 (1d10 + 12)

>>1056500
Nope. Retry.
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>>1056494
>>1056495
Think we got this.
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Rolled 10 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1056502

This would be more impressive if it weren't for parry rolls.
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>>1056502
Not EVA 1's day eithe it looks like.
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Rolled 6 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1056494

Versus 23.
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Rolled 9 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1056523

And parry.
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>>1056497
I'm not the designer nor manufacturer, I just arrange the shit to be sold. It is what it is, and you can't change that. I'm sorry.
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Rolled 3 + 12 (1d10 + 12)

>>1056491

>>1056514
What's this one for?
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Rolled 1, 5 = 6 (2d10)

>>1056495

Well good thing you rolled two 10s in a row. Versus 23, at +14. I'll just do the parry with it this time.
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>>1056468
>>1056473
It's not happening guys... It... It wouldn't end well, believe in me.

And he already got a millionaire girlfriend that could make live much more easier for him than I could, and he being with her gets off a weight from my back in a "less one thing to worry about manner".

But sometimes we're alone together and he starts talking about feels and how he thinks that everyone is drifting away from him and that he is wasting his life away without doing anything meaningfull and I get really worried that he may be trying to say something.

But then, there is these times when the "BR HUE" bloos gets ahold of me and I just can't resist provocking him, like this one time when i started passing my hand through his hair while staring deeply into his eyes with the most smug expression I ever had... and then he panicked and looked while not knowing what to do.

...And there is the fact that even if I feel alone sometimes because I'm not in love with anybody, I just don't see him that way, I don't REALLY love him in a sexual way.

So, I don't see it happening anyway.
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>>1056541
>millionaire girlfriend
>passing my hand through his hair while staring deeply into his eyes with the most smug expression
I uh... wha?

...
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>>1056541
>dat spoiler

GAAAAAAAAAAY
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>>1056541
It's obvious you get the rich chick to start a reverse harem, then you can fuck her and your trap boi.

This is the optimal solution.
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>>1056533
Its closer to a hand with a mated missile launcher than to handy missiles.
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>>1056541
ummm just have a 3 some alredy or something
stop teseing the poor boy
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>>1056539
Welp, thats a leg gone. 2 Linked 8 kill burst three should be enough to take it down.
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>>1056541
...I'm not sure I believe you. I want to though.
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>>1056541
Anon was right, everything you reveal just raises further questions
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>>1056555
I wouldn't mind getting a handy from a missile. That'd be one hell of a ride. Strangelove can keep his nuke, speed is the only real waifu.
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>>1056541
>that spoiler
You ARE gay!

>>1056553
It's like that comedy manga strip.

"You've been fucking Brazil Trap? Then if I make Brazil my man, then Trap will still be my man!"
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>>1056541

Just be there for him then.

If he really wants to date you and all that then he has to tell you, you're not psychic (as far as I know at any rate).

Sometimes people just have a very very strong platonic connection.

No sex, just an emotional bond that they don't have with anyone else.

Hell I've got that with my best friend, known the guy for all my life. thought I was in love with him once, seriously fucking did, but I worked it out. I wasn't in love with him, but I did love him, if that makes sense. He's someone I can rely on to have my back when shit goes south, someone I can trust with my secrets. He was there for me when nobody else was. Maybe that's how your trap friend sees you?
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Rolled 10, 3 = 13 (2d10)

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>>1056541
Have you done it in the butt before
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>>1056573
Yeah but did you guys give each other reciprocating oral sex?
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>>1056481
Ask away, I won't give you any dangerous details, but I'm in 4chan and could be almost anybody in Rio, so if Wong do not gets mad at me for attention whoring... why not?
Besides, it may at least make some of you laugh of my bizzare stories.

>>1056482
Already tried that, didn't work.
Next?
>>1056483
Having a life is having a constant struggle to survive anything the word throws at you.
And there is no way out anon, even if you're a neet, its just a matter of time until life finds you again and drags you screaming and fighting into its bizzare and dangerous ways.

>>1056505
You should show me these "Mecha Space Battles Quest" that you speak about anon, it sounds fun!
...And have you already forgot about that time about pineapple on pizza?
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>>1056569
The one where the trap goes around molesting women, then gets that one guy's wife addicted to his dick, so the husband gets the trap addicted to his dick as punishment, and to keep his wife satisfied? And then the lynch gang barges in later after the trap, but the husband tricks them into believing they got the wrong person because the trap is actively in the process of sucking his dick, and he explains that no man would suck another man's dick like that?
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>>1056574
..WELP FIGHTS OVER. I think we KO'd the damn thing.
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>>1056585
Sounds like it
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>>1056541
Wow that a real tough problem, thanks for having the courage to post about it here and making this all about you. Have an upvote.
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>>1056578
>show me Mecha Space Battles Quest
One day. When mechatanks get out of mid-tier and into high tier.

>>1056585
I can barely remember one panel where he say's he's going to fuck him in the ass, and I've never read anything about everything past
>And then the lynch gang barges in
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>>1056591
That's the one! Quality work there. You have excellent taste.
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Rolled 5, 6, 3, 5 = 19 (4d10)

>>1056574

Oops, forgot to link the posts, but those were Simon's attacks. You autoparried one and dodged the second.

Here's Nedermeyer!
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>>1056591
>>1056593
Oh, that's it.
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>>1056577

He's straight and white. I'm black and Bi. We live in the deep south and grew up in very traditional christian households. So no. Very much no. Not gonna lie though, if he had asked me when I was still unsure of what my feelings were for him I would have gone down on him in a heartbeat.
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>>1056591
I see that as a What if: Sammy was the pirate and Roarke was the Navy Officer scenario.
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Rolled 2, 4 = 6 (2d10)

>>1056596

Guts are powerful! Parries!
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>>1056599
Get out there and suck his fucking dick, anon.
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>>1056599
What your opinion on the classic work of Cinema Gay Niggers from Outerspace?
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>>1056600

Samantha is not into girls.
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>>1056603
I almost watched that yesterday holy shit.
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>>1056599
This sounds complicated. I'm glad I'm a psychopath and can't feel love.
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>>1056593
>>1056591
>>1056595
Found it. Wang Er-Xi - Night Stories from a Chinese Studio.

Good shit. Especially for those who aren't really into NTR, like me. I really dislike NTR, as a rule. This one I like though. A lot. Makes me smirk like a smug asshole.
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>>1056603

The scene with the watermelons was a work of pure art.

And that one sequence when the father actually stayed blew my mind.

The fried chicken saving the world plot device was rather cliche, but they saved it in the end with the soulful rendition of "I like big butts and I cannot lie". Moved me to tears.
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>>1056601
..is this the power of love?
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Back on the topic of mecha, what are you guys thoughts on xenoblade? I've only played the one with shulk and didn't finish that one, are the others better? I know xenoblade 2 was announced for the switch so i'm sorta curious.
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Should I feel worried that shooting your friend's mech that possessed him is producing all of this talk about NTR and giving traps the D?
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>>1056606
But Roarke is a man.
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>>1056617
Blame Brazil
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>>1056617
Considering how long you've been running this show Wong I would think you'd expect it by now.
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>>1056617
people deal with fear, worry, and stress in different ways. Some eat, some sleep, some fuck everything that moves.
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>>1056617
This is exactly what happens when people start blog posting
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>>1056616
Shhh. Anon, we're talking about trap and NTR hentai. It's helping us not panic over our good friend being in mortal danger.
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>>1056617
>Amos starts thinking about NTR while trying to save his friend from an insane living mech
I've given up trying to understand.
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>>1056623
>some fuck everything that moves.
so like Rance?
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>>1056614
>The film follows a group of intergalactic homosexual black men from the planet Anus, who discover the presence of female creatures on planet Earth. Using rayguns, they proceed to eliminate females one by one from Earth, eliciting gratitude from the previously oppressed male population.[1] Before leaving the planet, they leave behind a "Gay Ambassador" to educate the Earthlings about their new way of life.
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>>1056627
i'm imagining this shit happening in NBS, where it would be said aloud in-quest by the MC
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>>1056630
truly the 80's were a magical time
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>>1056630

That sounds so horrifically bad that I know I have to watch it for real now.

You horrible bastard.
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>>1056637
It came out in 1992.
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>>1056637
>Gayniggers from Outer Space is a 1992 short film, directed by Danish filmmaker Morten Lindberg. The film is a satire of the blaxploitation and science fiction genres.[1]
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>>1056627
>Simon is trapped inside there
>Man, Simon is thin
>Almost girly really
>Didn't he one time mention his legal guardian trying to come onto him
>That's gotta be weird
>Now that Simon has a girlfriend, does that mean she's gonna try even harder

>>1056634
Does the MC sound like an insane person?
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>>1056644
we've basically agreed he has multiple personalitys. plus it Eva so insanity is normal
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>>1056546
C'mon, i found it so funny that I started laughing on the spot.
...And then I started to feel bad for maybe playing with his feelings.

>>1056549
>>1056569
If a girl bangs a trap... Is it gay? And if I'm a guy... Why I'm gay for not wanting a trap?

>>1056553
That would never work.
And I do not love her too.
But I never would be with 2 people at the same time, I'm not that sort of person.

>>1056556
>3some
Not happening
>Stop teasing
Maybe I should do this.

>>1056562
This could just be pure bait.
But do you really care?
>>1056565
Thats the fun in it, no?

>>1056573
Maybe... we're like this once, but then we drifted away because of life... and then got back together after a few years of almost don't seeing each other... Maybe he is just alone and unsatisfied, maybe I'm just paranoid and joking too far with him.
But seriously, that bed episode was just pure cringe... and he trying to explain it just made it even worse.

Thats why I'm not doing anything about it now, just being buddies and watching this unfolds to see whats on his head.
Thank you anon.
>>1056575
This is getting much personal now.
But no.
>>1056585
What have you guys been reading...
Oh wait, I'm in 4chan.
>>1056592
Thank you for pointing how I'm just being a ATT whore.
But I'm just talking about this things for fun as I do with everything else, be it mechs or anime, I just don't care much if the focus is on me.
But have a cookie, you deserve it.
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>>1056655
I quote
>But then, there is these times when the "BR HUE" bloos gets ahold of me and I just can't resist provocking him, like this one time when i started passing my hand through his hair while staring deeply into his eyes with the most smug expression I ever had
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Garret opens fire again, and this time, the S-Squilla is forced to alter its tactics, throwing its hands up and merging its A-Particle fields into a flat beam shield that absorbs Garret's fire. You, though, have lined your shot up carefully this time. Six hammer-bolts of plasma tear through the S-Squilla's left knee, dropping it to the ground.

“Remember! Remember all the good you've done! Even when you were scared, you always pulled through and did your best to help when we were in a bind. We fought through all of this shit with you at our side, Simon! You're part of our squad! We even dragged Garret through a rainstorm to base together. You don't let your machine control you, you control the machine! Now give it a stern talking-to and get it back under control.” You roar as the S-Squilla falls with a sixty-ton crash.

Again, the tongue flicks out, but you smack it aside with your shield and dodge its rebound. You're used to these things by now, “I see you! ENEMY!” The machine roars, still with Simon's voice, trying to crawl forward.

You look down at it with pity, “Your father, if you mean the Gerard, isn't even on this planet. The Gerer and Berenger are the only two Paladins on Qu'lir.”

It slowly shakes its head in denial, without explanation. White tendrils wriggle around the stump of its severed leg, “A Father...” It snarls.

“Simon had a family that raised him! His father was a good man, he grew watermelons and taught Simon how to be gentle and kind! He doesn't NEED another one!” Nedermeyer barks louder than her rifle, drilling the S-Squilla with two pinpoint shots to the head. (-1 SP, 7 remaining, -3 Kills, 4 remaining with the first shot. -1 SP, 6 remaining, -4 Kills, HEAD DESTROYED with the second). The S-Squilla jerks and twitches, its head hanging limp on its neck. Nedermeyer might never get acknowledged as a Bucephalus ace with that rifle from the splinter company, but she sure put it to good use.

[Continued]
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>>1056616
Chronicles X is pretty good, decent soundtrack. lotta grinding though
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>>1056617
We had a trap-talk many threads ago because I was joking about samantha to anger some anon.

Then when anon asked today, I remembered that you had a pro-traps instance on things and thought "You know what, screw this, I'm going to spill everything here because Wong will probably not care anyway."

I'm sorry if my shitposting angered you Wong, it wasn't my intention.
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>>1056655
Oh yeah, I updated the M-Sagiser pastebin again, I forgot a few thing and ended up having to cut some MA
>>1056672
wasn't there some BS about the final boss being literally unbeatable or something?
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>>1056669
That whole crawling on the ground section make me wonder about making a mech with 4 legs and 4 feet with handy.
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>>1056689
Difficult yes, unbeatable no, just make sure you've maxed your levels and got some good gear, plus lots of heals.and your mechs are loaded for bear. took me maybe 3-4 tries fore i got him.
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>>1056658
>implying that just gay people could do this.
What? Wait... just... What?
Seriously anon, how does doing that proves that I'm gay regardless of my gender? Does it have to do with the trap aspect?
Now I'm just confused.
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“My foster dad. R-right.” Simon starts to move on the vidcomms, struggling against the tendrils, his voice growing more clear.

The S-Squilla roars in anguish through its broken teeth, the sound dissonant and honking as it flops around.

“STOP IT!” Simon yells, “That's enough! You're my SOUL mech, you were built for me!” He grits his teeth, and grabs the tendrils, pulling hard, “You want my skills? My energy? TAKE THEM! You'll use them as I command! You were built so I could ride you!”

Abruptly the noise stops, and the eerie light fades from the S-Squilla's eyes. Simon is completely awake, panting and with his face shining with sweat as though he'd just broken out of a fever. Slowly, the tendrils withdraw, lowering him back into his chair. He hits a few buttons, experimentally, “Operational effectiveness has dropped, but...but...” The S-Squilla holds up one hand, and lifts two fingers, “But it's moving the way I tell it too now.” He claps his hands over his face suddenly, “I killed people, didn't I?”

Garret snorts, “Don't you even start, you hear me? If you start blaming yourself for what that monster did, because someone at Bahamutcorp strongarmed Irina into building an ersatz Paladin and shoving a recruit into it, Amos and I are going to kick your ass when you get out of there.”

“I'll help!” Catherine Nedermeyer promises, her Palomino landing with a flourish and hefting its bulky gun like a club.

The S-Pyxicephalus crosses its arms, “I'm going to write to my father, I'm going to find out who was responsible for this, and I am going to use every channel I have to punish them. Simon, I'm so, so sorry.”

“Not as sorry as their families are.” Simon replies, in a dead voice. "I'm not worth protecting. I'll take responsibility, if I persuade whoever's in charge with the General gone to give me a court-martial and get drummed out it'll save the UJCIDF the embarrassment of this disaster."

>[What say?]
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>>1056672
>3rd person mech RPG
>everything I've wanted since Front Mission Evolved
>Wii U exclusive
Time to fucking kill myself, I though I would finally be able to love something.

>>1056703
Honestly I'm just fucking with you at this point. It went from jokes to bantz and I've now run out of ideas.
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>>1056687

I wasn't angry in the slightest!

As for Samantha, I can see why some people like her, and I can see why some people don't. It's part of her character.
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>>1056707
bought a Wii U for that and smash bros
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>>1056696
I don't have a Wii U unfortunately, i've got the 3ds version of xenoblade chronicles, still maybe it'll be remastered on the switch since i'm considering getting one of those.

>>1056704
Ah crap uh... something about duty, camaraderie taking responsibility by being a kickass pilot of a super mech and soldiering on? I'm no good with write ins...
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>>1056708
>As for Samantha, I can see why some people like her, and I can see why some people don't. It's part of her characte

If it's cute, fuck it. I don't see where the problem is.
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>>1056717
>>1056708
wasn't there a graph comparing how long one's been on 4chan comparing with what one is willing to fuck?
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>>1056717

I meant with her personality. She's incredibly loyal, but that comes with a downside, she's impulsive and willing to go incredibly far in defense of the things she cares about. For example, Colonel Stern's vision of SOUL as a band of heroes that save the day no matter the cost, or for the man she loves.
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>>1056704
"You are going to stay right where you are, you are going nowhere for no damn court martial. Those brave men and women knew what they were doing and they'll do it in a heartbeat again. Whos gonna help take their place and defend their home if you quit now.

You want to take responsibility, you man up and take their place. Defend their families in their stead.

And when you want to go and apologise to their families and thank them for their service, i'll be right there beside you."
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>>1056704
>"Simon, it wasn't you... And i don't even think that we can fully blame the Squilla either, in the end when used a living being without any life experience as a weapon against its will, can we really blame it for trying to escape and run to its "family"? But I certainly can't let you take all of this blame unto yourself too... so if there is anyone to blame, we're going to take this as a team, got it?"
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>>1056704
Don't Simon. This is not your fault. It's a bad case of us trying to run before we could walk. The higher ups were likely trying to push it out fast so if anything, the fault lines on them for not live testing the thing without weapons first. If you want to make ammends, help the people rebuild when this is over. Take what happened here into your heart, and work hard to make up for your slip.
We'll all trip once or twice after all. Just means your friends will be there to help pick you up when you fall.
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>>1056704
Uh, I have no idea what someone would tell someone to make them feel better that wouldn't be generic "that's just what people say" stuff. It's not your fault? You weren't in control?
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>>1056724
But it's cute.
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>>1056724
The impulsive part is one of the things that I most distrust in her, I have no idea of what Sam will do in any emergency case, for all I know Sam can go full Roarke "I'M GOING TO SAVE EVERYONE MYSELF" at any moment... In a S-Betta....
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>>1056704

From what I can see that thing had a mind of its own. More importantly nobody told you what the hell to expect when they shoved you in there.

You're not responsible for what it did.

You having compassion for the people who were hurt does you credit Simon, but they don't need a martyr, they need justice. Throwing you to the damn wolves won't get them that.

You're a Soldier Simon, you take orders, do your job, and Jove willing you manage to stay alive so you can do it again and again until they let you go home.

You didn't sign up to be put in a damn paladin knockoff with no warning.

Heads are gonna roll, justice will be served, and the people who caused this will be held accountable.

If you want to apologize, if you want to console the families of the people who lost their lives to this mess, then I'll be right there with you every fucking step. But you don't get to throw your life away just so some Brass covered piece of shit gets a free pass.

We're in this together Simon, so stop acting like you have to do this alone.
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>>1056704
>"Then what about us huh. We'd be down one of the best soldiers this war has ever seen. Done let your guilt get in the way of your duty. Dont let your self doubt stop you from fulfilling your purpose. We need you Simon, this isn't just about you anymore, you have a responsibility to everyone that has faith in you to be the best you can be.
If you wanna make up for what you think you did then keep fighting.
Together we are gonna end this war and save more lives than anyone of use could imagine."
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>>1056739
I feel bad for the Squilla too, as if you stop to think, it is just a giant baby with superpowers that was desesperately trying to find the family that it thinks that have abandoned it for being "weak".
...and we are calling it a monster for resisting being mind control into spend his life fighting a war that isn't his.

Is this really good?

ARE WE THE GOOD GUYS!?
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>>1056754
Nigger it stepped on at least one house. Stop being such a moralfag.
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>>1056754
>ARE WE THE GOOD GUYS!?

Science doesn't have time for your petty morals or "ethics".

And neither does war.
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>>1056708
So... That means...

more hentai/trap talk?
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>>1056759
Whew! Forgot this was 2x2chan for a minute there. Thanks for reminding me.
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>>1056754

No, at least I'm not.

The poor bastard is as much a victim here as Simon, it didn't ask for this.

The 'monster' here is the Head honcho who thought, "you know what this war needs? A crime against god and man specifically made to combat a pirate who isn't even involved in either side of this conflict but who is a slight embarrassment to the Military. Added bonus, after it kills the pirate we can use it to fight the paladins."
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>>1056754
>Brazil is now at the point where he will handwave a greenman machine murdering plenty of innocents because it didn't know any better
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>>1056754
I don't think its quite that human... its taking prominent concepts from simons head that vaguely fit its own situation where its essentially a sliver of a larger system that was severed, I doubt it actually fully understands what its saying. if it is that human avalon is fucking terrifying.
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>>1056765
I mean he supports greenmen, guys who built entire armies around mind control, but objects to one murderous plant bot.
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>>1056759
>>1056763
Do you want to execute Squilla for it? Or punish it somehow?
That is what I'm asking.

For me... I think that Simon has to have a serious talk with it if we want it to fight for us... As we can't risk having him doing it again everytime it senses a Paladin.
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>>1056754
It's a pretty smart baby. I'd say it's a teen who just got a taste of a few things. The damage we did to it seems pretty easy to fix with some help since it still has a head and the leg could be reattached. However, it needs to learn control and awareness. It took direct control over Simon instead of being a partner. It damaged needlessly, and it was incredibly selfish. Both Simon and Squilia need training and discipline.
>>1056775
Considering it costs over 600 cp, they aren't going to trash it for walking in a straight line. It is a capable machine once verniers and thrusters are attached and unlike the Slinger, it's still in one piecish.
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>>1056775
If it was me In their position I wouldn't have grown a disgusting plant cyborg in the first place. But now that they have they should probably lobotomize it or something.
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>>1056773
No, no, I don't mean what you think, I mean what you said. "Saying matters more than thinking" and all that profound bullshit.
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"Right, one ass-kicking, coming right up." Garret promises.

"Simon..." You marshall your thoughts, before speaking firmly, "For the last time, it wasn't you. It wasn't even the Squilla, which in the end was just a living being with no previous experiences that woke up alone and afraid." After this you're willing to believe a lot of the Duchess' theories, "It just wanted to find where it belonged, too, so it ran. If there's any blame passed around, we're all taking a piece of it."

"But-" Simon protests, and you hold up the S-Delphinius' hand to cut him off.

"No buts. We...the UJCIDF...tried to run before we could walk. I know this project was rushed, because this is the military and there's always a push for quick results. They should have let Irina power it up without weapons first. If you want to fix this, join me in repairing the damage when this is over. I know you, you're going to take what happened here to heart and work hard to do better, and the S-Squilla will be there with you. Like you said, it's your mech. We all trip sometimes, but you've got people here to pick you up when you fall. So you're going to stay with us, and not go to any damned court martial. Those Bluegill pilots knew what they were doing, and given the chance, they'd do it in a heartbeat again. Who's going to help defend their home if not for you? You want to take responsibility? Do it, don't run away." You're aware that you're babbling a little, some of what you said is a bit redundant, but you've got to whack a nail in the same spot a bunch of times with a hammer to get it to stick into the board.

Speaking of Bluegill pilots, you do a scan for the one the S-Squilla had crushed, and locate its ejected cockpit. It's intact, and as you watch, another Qu'liri in a pilot suit limps up to it, and the hatch pops open. The pilot inside practically falls out, his leg twisted at an awkward angle, and his comrade helps him stand and starts hobbling to safety with him.

You smile, and that's when tragedy almost strikes. Another rumble shakes the earth, and with a crash, a building topples, falling right towards them. There's no chance for them to dodge, and your three mecha have no way to stop it from happening.

But Simon's does. Both hands and its remaining leg tense, and it throws itself in the way, covering the two pilots with its entire body like a man throwing himself on top of a grenade. Bricks and masonry fall onto the mighty assault mech, practically covering it, pummeling it like the Black Ogre's fists. It shakes and shudders, but that chassis was built to withstand great damage, and it manages to keep from falling onto them.

"Simon!" You call out, landing and rushing over, trailed by Garret and Nedermeyer. Between the three of you, you manage to clear away enough of the debris for the pilots to climb out, shaky but unhurt. The older one, a sergeant, turns and gives the S-Squilla a shaky salute, which it clumsily returns.

[Continued]
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>>1056768
Let's be honest, most of the military wants to fuck him, the other half want to be him, and nestled somewhere in between those tectonic forces are the friction that just want to fucking kill him.
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>>1056775
You don't punish a sword if you cut your hand on it.
All we need is the linkage between pilot and mech the bio-system applies, the front-brain-esq thoughts its acquired are unnecessary and inefficient. If it was an AI I doubt anyone would have any qualms deleting it or altering its code to limit independent function.
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>>1056775
Its a fucking robot
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>>1056770
Nah, I'm an ancap, we would probably kill it with fire anyway.
And then make the army pay for repair/lives lost.

This would be the most "ethical" solution possible in my view.

>>1056771
I don't think that it is completely human... but it clearly thinks and knows things on its own for a certain extent.
>>1056773
I don't, that is a meme, I just think that Avalon is slightly better than the jovians in certain aspects and easier to overthrow when the time comes...
Also, in general they are more trustworthy.

>>1056802
Is it really?

>>1056797
I don't know... It seems very alive for me, and this would be pretty evil to do to a inteligent being.
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>>1056797
>You don't punish a sword if you cut your hand on it.
You probably should if it intentionally takes control of your sword fighting ability and stabs you.
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>>1056797
>You don't punish a sword if you cut your hand on it.

>flashbacks to thrown controllers and broken monitors

Yeah, that'd be silly.
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>>1056806
It was designed to be used as a tool, that's all it will ever be I don't give a shit how much of it is alive.
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>>1056737

She still solves her problems like a ninja. Honestly, if I had to pick one waifu to save everybody in a pinch, it would be her.

>>1056775

It doesn't quite work like that. The Anon who said it was trying to communicate an extremely limited understanding through concepts it picked up from Simon's brain was right. "A Father" means something very different to it than "the thing that sired me".
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>>1056818
You aren't wrong but i think everyone in thread already knows to take anything brazil says with four metric tons of salt unless it relates to mech design
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>>1056806
Lets look at the history of the setting here
>huge disaster with bio engineering
>huge disaster with AI I might be wrong here. Cant remember if it was AI and nanomachines or just nanomachines
>this thing is basically both
This plant fucker is screwed.
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>>1056827
Sometimes I really doubt that anon
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>>1056828
Just Nanomachines son.
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>>1056836
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>>1056806
Either way, I think this is a case of 'one comes with the other'. The bio energy and general intelligence comes with it causes both this behavior and the increased power and mobility. Synching movements, removing delays, this is likely whats happening. Problem is, no one tested the damn thing first and chances are since it fed on Simon's thoughts to think better, it also likely took some of simon in as well. That means his baggage too.
Either way, brass won't cripple this thing and certainly not Bahamut corp. Whats a town to a war that spans galaxies?
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>>1056797

About that. Every mech has a number of limited AI systems that make controlling it possible, interpreting the user's thoughts and commands and translating them into things like flight and motion. A mech wouldn't be able to even walk if it just translated the brain's commands to the legs on a 1:1 scale, there's a difference between walking as a man weighing less than a ton and walking as a machine that weighs in the tens of tons. A Paladin's mandrake has a more powerful, biologically-based one that controls its style of power plant. In theory you could maybe lobotomize it, but then it would be just an ordinary mech. An expensive one, but still just an ordinary mech.
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>>1056827
>Implying that the Avalonian/kestrels faction is just a meme.
Yes anon, it is not like I'm their secret leader or something.
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>>1056847

Well, they tested to see if it could move with the right stimuli, the problem came about when they hooked an actual pilot, neurotic and insecure Simon, into it.

Most Paladins are piloted by people who were rebuilt for the purpose. Loriette, even as a cripple, had a very strong will and she's on the weaker end of the scale. Simon never had that advantage, he's just a regular kid who's talented at martial arts.
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>>1056875
We'll make him better.

The problem starts when the highers think to start rebuilding simon physically.
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>>1056875
So what you're saying is put Roarke in one of these and dangle a waifu in his face and he'll be hitting the +30s with his combat rolls, eh?
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>>1056863
ah ok, I was kinda wondering what the point of a bio system like this was for when AI is probably safer... so not much you can do to remove the independent thoughts if you want to keep the extra functionality, guess we need to train it like an animal to some extent then.
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>>1056870
Brazil. First of all Roarke would never do that so long as the green lady still lives, Second One of the only things i can respect about you is the sheer amount of faggotry that you can manage to bring to a thread while still functioning, it is both impressive and terrifying to behold. You are like Fluff but somehow more intelligent
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>>1056881
Actually gives me a funny thought, if the mecha took some traits from Roarke and started to seek out mecha waifus. Dat Archen booty
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>>1056891
Oh man that brings back some memories. What quest was fucking fluff in again?
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>>1056863
And there it is. The Brass wouldn't do that sort of thing. The cost and promise wouldn't allow it. 'Military accident with prototype. System went haywire. Secured and fixed.' is what will appear on the report.
>>1056875
And that brings some concern. Once you get a assembly line.. or farm for these things, you simply need to find strong willed aces. Considering the war there are likely a bushel of them. It'd take 2 weeks for 1 MP, but slimming the systems would slim the cost.
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>>1056894
>Dragon-fucking-a-train flashbacks
>Car-shoving-a-tailpipe-into-another-tailpipe flashbacks
Dear god no
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>>1056896
Planefag's
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>>1056896
I think he's in Beleaguered Prince now.
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>>1056896
Multiple different ones actually.
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>>1056901
he's not nearly anywhere close to the levels of faggotry he was at in Kancolle though. thank god for that
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>>1056896
all of them
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>>1056903
I'm struggling to think of the one I was looking at. It wasn't hollow quest was it? All I remember is multiple people telling him to shut the fuck up repeatedly.
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>>1056906
Cocksucker loves to stir the shit
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>>1056909
inb4 he shows up
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>>1056888

Fuuuuuwa, let me see how to put this without spoiling too much, because it's easier to just explain than let everyone have the wrong impression forever.

It's rare for a Paladin to go berserk. Even when it was getting torn apart by the Knuckle Kaiser, the Anseis was completely under Loriette's control. She had, after all, experience avoiding the kind of mental feedback it could latch onto.

Duchess Maria Carnegie believes that the Paladins are alive and self-aware, to an almost mystical degree. She would agree if you said they have independent thoughts. She considers the Berenger like a very intelligent dog that also carries the holy will of the Lady.

Duke Eustace de Rothschild-Beauchamps thinks that's all bullshit, and HE has activated the full overcharged mode (+2 versus the +1 Simon had) of the Oliver a handful of times, considerably more than Maria has. He's convinced that it just mirrors the thoughts of its rider through its own lens. He cares about his wife and kids and got worked up thinking about REALLY getting to go home at last and see them again and maybe quit fighting for good, and he would say that the Oliver absorbed those thoughts and mirrored them by unleashing its full power. Almost like the psychic equivalent of a parrot repeating words it doesn't understand.

The Lady of the Woods has given clarity to neither of them on this matter.

Simon, though, on that first test, didn't quite have enough will to command the S-Squilla. Now, maybe it did sense something, viewed it through Simon's mental lens, and acted on it until he adamantly forced it to stop. Maybe an outside influence affected it. Maybe it really was Simon's fault and the machine found that well of anger and resentment that Simon didn't even know he had and, recognizing it as a strong-willed part of its rider, tried in its own way to act on it by finding Gerhard Biggs and smashing his head in. Or maybe Simon's own father had absolutely nothing to do with this.
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I like watching you guys, by the way, sometimes there's a bit of cringe but that goes hand-in-hand with the internet, and it's always worth it in the end.
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>>1056879
Nah, jovians are paranoid with this stuff.
They prefer to grow their soldiers in bio-vat than go full paladin.
I don't see it happening.
>>1056888
It can "talk" though, and Simon said that he could feel what the machine "felt".
so they can communicate to each other to a extent, so this will probably make it more easier.

>>1056891
I was mostly joking, because most of us don't much care about the other factions if they can continue to rob people and not be hunted.
And I never said that we should ally with Avalon, but I don't think that we should give preference to the jovians either, and that is a stupid Idea to fully oppose avalon when they were much more reasonable to us than Faichild and all of the corrupt jovian system who clearly just wants to screw us at the first opportunity, and than Hakim that first reaction to the offer of participating on the auction was "Give me the paladin right now and I may not attack your colonies for now".

Besides... The Duke is a bro, and even if I okay with attacking his ships that don't pay tribute for entering our turf, we should let him screw the jovians mostly in peace, as he brought nothing but money and protection from the autorities to us(as everyone is too worried about him).

Who is Fluff?

>>1056894
Instead of Gundam-san we are having Kaiser-san with abridged stories of the Kaiser searching fo dat mecha booty?

>>1056905
>>1056906
>>1056909
>>1056910
Who is this guy!?
Is he that bad? Am I that bad!?
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>>1056916
you are no where near his level of Faggotry or Shitposting
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>>1056916
All namefags are bad but few are as bad as fluff.
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>>1056896

Tell me the story of Fluff, for it is one I haven't heard.

speaking of planefag, I just had the awful thought that Young might have been the protagonist's name in SWQ. Jesus is absolutely not at all like that guy and his name is "Keith Young" just because Keith is kind of a dorky name and because Young rolled off the tongue better than Yuengling, the other name I almost went with. I wanted to avoid beer jokes.
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>>1056916
No, thank god for that. You're a faggot but not that big a fag.

You should still fuck your friend anyways, faggot.
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>>1056916
Nah, neither of you are bad. I haven't seen Fluff in action (I just saw him frequenting Beleaguered Prince, he hardly ever says anything at all) and expressing your opinion doesn't make you bad.

I mean, it's the goddamn internet, just ignore people you don't like. It's not that hard. Especially when you have 4chanx, just autohide their ID and they're gone.
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>>1056922
...it IS young.
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>>1056922
Yes, the pilot in SWQ was named Young.
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>>1056922
>>1056923
Behold anons and Wong, the writefaggotry done by Ghost to make up for Planefag's failure to run his quest.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fb0FmI-XAGPJRW36_IXlCL5h-XfvEnG5SFjP9a7Jh4Y/edit
Pages 95
Words 52742
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>>1056916
Fluff, short for Fluffbringer was and is an infamous namefag from multiple quests, he was generally incorrigible and got his name from writing fluff/lewds/omakes for some of the quests he participated in, also tended to have shit rolls iirc. He made himself an easy target I'd say, so we remember him more than other annoying namefags, think of it as a sortof shitty nostalgia.
>>1056925
He used to be pretty bad, especially looking back at archived tg quests I think he did get better though.
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>>1056916
>It can "talk" though, and Simon said that he could feel what the machine "felt".
>so they can communicate to each other to a extent, so this will probably make it more easier.

Although this is true, remember that virtually every narrator in this quest is an unreliable one. That MIGHT be correct, or it MIGHT be that Simon has a lot of problems and one of them is that he's a very deadly teenager and a Paladin is not exactly a soothing therapist who helps you understand yourself.

>>1056926
>>1056927

Wholly unintentional, not that it matters a ton.

>>1056929

TL:DR
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>>1056933
If it was only shit rolls it wouldnt have been a problem. Wrenloft always had the worst fucking luck like failing a roll when we needed a 2 to pass. But he did have the luck when it counted.
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>>1056934
shit man i'm not gonna read that one go, gonna maybe pick at over a month or two.
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>>1056929
Which quest, planesluts or shipsluts? also I tried participating in the kancolle one but I didn't have the naval knowledge needed to tell a good choice from a bad one... there was a lot of suffering in that quest.
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>>1056922
Its been too long for me to remember anything more than typing "shut the fuck up Fluff" in almost every thread. I know I was there when he first showed up though but I cant remember when. Also holy shit I have been looking at quests since 2013.
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>>1056929
That's only going to take 2 years to read since Google seems to not believe in any color that isn't "eye searing white."
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>>1056938
shipsluts
>>1056939
Here forever anon
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>>1056939
>>1056941
Scratch that 2011. Was here for the start of totemist quest at least.
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>>1056940
Download, set background to black, enjoy not drying your eyes out
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>>1056939
>been playing since zeonquest
>2009

fuck me
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>>1056945
Zeonquest was the shit. Still got to finish reading it some day.
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>>1056934
Wong, are we done for today?

>>1056939
>>1056942
Maybe I should lurk 2 more years before posting.

My first post was here on MSPQ, but I was lurking for quite some time, mostly on /tg/.

In fact, it was MSPQ that brought me here to 4chan, after I stumbled on the /tg/ archives after looking for some material for inspiration for helping the author of BLE(Starlight Brigade) with one of his projects.
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>>1056942
>>1056945
Guess I'm a newfag then since I only started archive bingeing quests in 2014 and only started actually participating halfway through 2015 after about a half year of lurking active
quests.

I read a couple archived gundam based quests but I don't think I read that one, Guess I should check it out
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>>1056945
Ah yes. We must never forget Zoloman. His heat hawks were things of legend.
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Maybe nobody will notice if I say in a very small voice that I only got through SWQ until the protagonist cucked Minna with that other witch, then found other witch doing it with Minna. I know that sounds hypocritical, but Roarke is pretty upfront about wanting to be with multiple women and has a ridiculous rock star sex drive. Plus, 2/3 of the human population was wiped out, so "one man with several women" isn't really stigmatized. On Mars, where the population is actually skewed notably towards women because so many of the men just DIED in the Great Sidereal War, it's become extremely common, hence acquiring the nickname of "Martian Marriages". Even then, he didn't start sleeping with multiple women until Samantha and Karen said they were okay with it, then Red Siren was cool with it because she's competitive and convinced that she's the female lead. Fatima is Martian and expected it because Roarke is, to her, more of a lord than a pirate. Clemmy fully intended to be 100% possessive and keep other women away from Roarke with a knife until Red Siren got through to her. It's not just men who learn to understand each other through mecha combat.

Other than that I've only read a few of the GoT quests and Zeonquest, which is why I run this less like a normal quest and more as a fast-and-loose one-character game with a crowd of players.
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>>1056947
>BLE(Starlight Brigade)
Translation when?

>>1056948
Lurker from 2011. Only started posting for MSPQ.
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>>1056951
SWQ?

What's that?
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>>1056956
Strike Witches Quest

Don't read it, it's long, stupid and full of cancerous shitposting
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>>1056956
Strike Witches Quest
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>>1056947

Originally I was going to do more, then I remembered what comes next, and decided it would have more impact tomorrow when everyone's got that fight out of their systems.
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Changing the subject to a very serious one....

Are we really doing the "Kestrels Queen cover album?

Please say yes, i want this soooo hard....
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>>1056951
I do think this one benefits from having an actual system. I always wondered why dudes didnt just play table top games over the internet on /tg/.
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I only started about last January with Thief's quest since I never really went on /tg/
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>>1056951
Yeah, it got shitty around then, especially because the anons that liked to say "fuck it, do what's funny" started to outnumber everyone else.

>>1056956
>>1056958
Yeah, I'll back that. It's a disappointing read because of what I said, and because planefag never finished it.
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>>1056962
I know right?
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>>1056960
Does that mean more fighting? Less fighting? Seeing Caesar and Moe laughing as they fly back home carrying Irina?
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>>1056954
Hm... I asked him about it one time and he said that he was full of other projects that took priority at the moment... and I now that few of them didn't even get out yet.
So I don't see it happening soon, maybe in 2 or 3 years... But it is maybe better this way too, as there will be far more content at this point than it exists now.

I'm happy to answer questions about the game if you want, even if I'm a little tired of it at this point as I've been in too much contact with it for the last year since I got to know the author personally...
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>>1056960
Ah then its time to start posting mech builds again.
This is a mecharider called the Boomstick, it has a 20K beam cannon, a 12 SP shield and has 20 MA with -4MV at 140CP, I think It would make a lovely present for Miles.
http://pastebin.com/MHBXQKfp

and for Brazillia here's the M-Sagiser again:
http://pastebin.com/sR0KhwEu
It should be finished now.
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>>1056962
>>1056966
>why dudes didn't just play table top games over the internet on /tg/.
Roll20 is your answer.
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>>1056962
Because most of /tg/ either don't play or have not played in a while

Most QMs, due to the nature of actually writing shit and the broad decision-making part of quests, start turning into writers more than being GMs. The closest thing to real tabletop would be skirmish quests really, but nowadays /tg/ is up in arms about "we're here to DISCUSS tabletop games, not PLAY them", so no games for the foreseeable future
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>>1056962
They did? To a certain extent. Playing online and by extension /tg/ requires you to adapt for players that may or may not show up and new players that just appear out of nowhere.

This leads to games that easily allow drop-in/drop-out like Mecha Mechs Skirmish or Iron Hearts.
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Since everyone's talking about their time on 4chan...

I shitposted almost religiously over /tg/ and /a/ since 2012 and /b/ since around 2014. I stopped going to 4chan for around a year and only came back in early 2016 because I realized I was cancer incarnate and had a problem since I literally couldn't stop myself from shitposting since I only like to do and say what would be funniest to me, and never cared about what other people thought about that.

It's kinda sad now, because I'm becoming worse and worse as time goes on (like when I was fucking with Brazil earlier) but I don't wan't to leave all the quests I'm following.
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>>1056969
Well, either way here is the F-type again for you look at and slowly go crazy from.
http://pastebin.com/sEaULnez
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>>1056972
>"we're here to DISCUSS tabletop games, not PLAY them"
>MFW
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>>1056960
Its okay, its good to just have a chat with the QM online sometimes too.

So, Wong... Wasn't the tourney going to happen AFTER the wedding and auction? are you going to time jump that far?
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>>1056971
>>1056972
Its just I know they have game finder threads and had quests which were basically a watered down tabletop game so it always bothered me that people didnt just put up threads where they played a game of DnD or something.
>>1056974
You'd think you would see it more though. Like I have seen more games of chess in threads than non-quest based tabletop games.
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What are some of you other favorite currently running quests anons?

Shinobi quest
Revenge and Gold
Dong-Bak
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>>1056972

That's like a group of chefs in a working fully stocked kitchen saying, "we're here to talk about food, not cook, taste, or eat it."
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>>1056986
Maverick Hunter and Beyond the gate. Wish Totemist was back.
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>>1056980
which resulted in the birth of /qst/ thanks dumb arses.

>>1056982
Because games of DnD require continuity. And continuity requires players to keep coming back regularly to reprise their roles. If you can get that, theres no reason to continue it on /tg/ you might as well grab the group and run on irc, which most online groups did before d20. Like #adeva.
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>>1056986
I only look at this one these days really. /qst/ is a bit overcrowded and slow for me to find others.
>>1056988
Totemist will be back eventually anon Dairca is clearly some sort of old one.
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>>1056986
Black Company
Shipgirl Commander
Loved Persona 2129 but still on the fence about Academy Tournament Organization
Bladebound Retainer
Starship Idols
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>>1056986
Maverick hunter

Space pirate quest

German hollow quest I fucking love how we made the group of mindless killing machines into one of the most reasonable factions in the setting. While they were being led by an actual fucking nazi even.

Hive queen quest
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>>1056972

That's part of why /tg/ turned to shit. The other part is that /tg/ kind of abandoned imagination for autism.

Let's say, for example, I post a thread about...hmm, something controversial. Female martial characters who don't need no man, for instance. Old /tg/ would have just memed about it, shitposted, bantered, posted tits, and turned it into a lovely discussion of practical armor that somehow morphs into discussing tank tactics in the first World War because someone posted a female Russian tank commander or something. New /tg/ spams report the moment the conversation goes off topic, the OP would be accused of being /pol/, a FOR REAL FEMINIST from reddit would show up to "set these misogynists straight", and it would generally turn into a cancerous clusterfuck.

>>1056965

I actually learned a lot from that quest. Namely, humor is good, but you need a long-term plan and character progression, and you need to keep the game from turning into a series of stale jokes (which I hope I do well). The one biggest problem I had was that Roarke got OP very quickly, but then I learned how to roll with it because it's in-keeping with the genre and it's honestly kind of fun for me how the Black Ogre is this terrifying thing that people actively train to beat and set up unique protocols for.
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>>1056986
Shinigami Savant Quest - pure fucking gold
House and Dominion - the lore world building and long run time of Banished without the shitty QM
Northern Beasts- Moloch writes better than most professionals
Ninja Monk Quest - Red's a cool guy, though he likes making players shadowrun too much
Broken Sky Online - I like the artifact system the QM set up, being able to actually make ancient weapons of myth is one of my fetishes
Titanfall Mercs Quest - I like Titanfall
16th MS Team - Underrated, deserves more players
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>>1056992
There's another Space Pirate quest?
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>>1056982

Could you, in theory, run a game of D&D on /qst/?
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>>1056975
Are you BR? Because this sounds absolutely "HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE" to me.

Just have control in the sense of where and when to shitpost, and if you get really worried if you passed the line... just ask, worst case they are going to tell you to "kys", but does that matter?

Stop when you feel that you crossed the line and when doing continuing damage to a Quest, other than that the is nothing wrong on having fun if you aren't really convincing people to suicide or something...

>>1056986
I trying a few recently, but I ended dropping most of them.

So, seriously following I'm just on this one, but I may go back to "Evil Sorcerer" and "Doll Shop" someday when the Tourney is over.
I also accept any reccomendations you give me and if that anon sttil remembers that thread: Yes, i checked KanColle and "For House & Dominion" but didn't get far in any of them.

>>1056987
This is just horribly, sometimes I get this incredible desire to invade the 4chan's owner house and force him to fuse /qst/ and /tg/ back again just to see them cry about it...
But I'm not really crazy to try it.
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>>1056982
>Its just I know they have game finder threads and had quests which were basically a watered down tabletop game so it always bothered me that people didnt just put up threads where they played a game of DnD or something.

You're misunderstanding something. Roll20 is a result of people wanting to play TTRPGs over the internet. The result is that you get people of the internet in all of its glory to play with you. Which ultimately makes the experience extremely frustrating if you're not one of the lucky 0.01%
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>>1056986
Shinobi
Pokemon Island Adventure
Fresh Soul Reaper Quest*
Ultra Super Nova Quest*
Young Demon Familiar Quest*
Monster Girl Legend Quest*
* These are all by the same QM and all but FSRQ have /u/ leanings(it's looking likely we'll husbando aizen in that one), not super high quality but they're where I get my sillier quest impulses and fetish stuff out for the most part, probably not for everyone.
Used to follow Re: Monster EX
German Hollow, its pretty much a power trip at this point though.
Might look into other quests soon
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>>1056997

Yeah, forget the exact name of it though.

We were a pirate, got captured, crashed the ship we were in, stumbled into town, got drunk at a bar, won a ship from a game of poker, and then were building up a crew again.

Need to see if I can find it again. I lost it after the first thread and could never seem to find it here since.
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>>1056994
>which I hope I do well
This is one of the best damn quests I've read in a while man. You've managed to combine a passable (i.e. readable) writing style while keeping up with player shenanigans and maintaining player agency. Everything combines into a package of maximum fun.

>it would generally turn into a cancerous clusterfuck
You can still find a few gems from time to time. Just...need a fuckton of patience though.
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>>1056998
Well that depends. What are your thoughts on Thunderbird, BRanon, myself, and some of the more common posters having their own characters? Because the end result is likely very messy.
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>>1056998
I cant see why not. I mean whats the difference between that and this game other than a single person controlling each character?
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>>1056986
>>1056995
Oh and MSPQ, I like how Wong's using an established system and that we can contribute to the world beyond playing someone in it.

>>1056997
Oh, I fucking forgot about Space Pirate.

Yeah, Brine started running it right before he moved and hasn't run it since. I'd definitely read it, it's a blast so far, even if it's short.

>>1056999
No, I'm not.

I think the main problem is that I ask myself "do I care about what these anonymous people on the internet that I will never meet think about me more than my own enjoyment" and so far the answer has always be no.
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>>1056987

Perfect metaphor. I used to love Legend of the Five Rings (and there's actually scattered references to it in this quest), I shudder to think at what the threads must be like now.
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>>1056986
Shinobi Quest (Famous enough)
Galaxy Quest (Runs infrequently but has an interesting premise of a spacenapped doctor released into the wild alien universe)
LGA2 (Gotta have my comfy GuPQ)
Cabin Control Quest (You're the director of the Cabin in the Woods monster ritual system. Kill the sacrifices and save the world!)
Nerv Bridge Simulator (The autistic Commander is wonderful, art is great too)
Kant-O-Celle Quest (IF or WHEN it runs. Hate Gaiden ran recently so its sortof active...)

I find myself looking more for a decent writing quality. Just can't get into quests that aren't written that well.
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>>1057007
That is true. Most of you would probably end up set on fire if i had it my way. Still theoretically possible.
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>>1056998
You've run Mekton Zeta, one of the most insanely complicated TTRPGs, on quest. I'd think D&D would be a walk in a park.

The thing is with RPGs meant for group play, forums doesn't really help as you don't know for sure whether your players or the GM is present.
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>>1057003
Note, MSPQ is probably my favorite quest running now that I've gotten into the mech making system and actually understand stuff.
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>>1057005
Here's the pirate quest. Steal Back the Stars.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Steal%20Back%20the%20Stars

Brine hasn't updated his twitter since early November though.
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>>1057024
Hot damn, thanks anon.

Gonna binge read after I get off work tomorrow.
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>>1057022
you'd have to name and trip fag to keep players consistent, but making a dnd campaign where players can drop in and out between sessions or mid session would be hard.
Maybe have a number of warforged with a collective consciousness that is represented by the thread?
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>>1057023
Hear, hear.
Been wanting to write a Stardust Quest, SW Mandalorian Quest, or just a Mandalorian Traveler's CYOA quest. Brain juice not up to par though :/
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>>1057011
>contribute to the world beyond playing someone in it
That is really the best ain't it? When other people decide to add things to the universe.
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>>1057028
A skirmish type game then, basically.

Check this out.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Iron%20Hearts
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>>1056986
Maverick Hunter
Boruto
Nerv Bridge Simulator
Mecha Space Pirate

I have a few others I follow, but of all of them those four are the only ones I make an effort to keep up to date on.
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>>1057030
Still need to curate it though, otherwise we'd get Star Wars Legends.
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>>1056986
House & Dominion Quest Too bad the QM stated that he's thinking of ending it soon, the longest running quest on 4chan and certainly one of the best
Northern Beasts Quest, or anything by its QM Moloch, really

Sandy's Quests on akun
Face's Golden Empire saga on akun

I follow a shit-ton more quests on both here and akun, but they are either ded, run VERY infrequently, or just not that notable.
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>>1057032
>Iron Hearts
I tried reading the archive and only got to like two posts in the second thread. I couldn't tell what the fuck was going on or understand who was doing what.

The art was godlike though.
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>>1057007

Thunderbird and BRanon fighting is actually quite brisk.

>>1056999

Yes, that's one of my biggest worries. You guys are so excited about the tournament that I'm almost afraid once it's over people will vanish or stop participating so much.

Which would be a shame because there is a lot of catharsis and one tremendously significant conclusion at the terminus of that arc.
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>>1057011
Think this way:
Those are real people, with real feelings, and real lifes that you can mess with, and you don't know who is on the other side of the monitor and you can affect him with your words... Yeah, you are not to blame about anything they do because of that, but do you want to live with the weight of potentially causing damage to other human being just for lulz?

And if you think that they are just being dumb, evil, or imbeciles, or that they deserve it, or that you aren't causing any serious trouble anyway... seriously, why should you even care?!
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>>1057032
huh, thats interesting, Might need to sit in on a few threads to see how it goes.
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>>1057040
That's because I can't actively get rid of him. If we we're playing DnD things would go very different
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>>1057036
>I follow a shit-ton more quests on both here and akun, but they are either ded, run VERY infrequently, or just not that notable.

Does that include all of killertpu. Fucker can't finish one before he starts 3 more.

>>1057039
Icons and names. You literally have to track everyone's moves and icons if you're reading from an archive and were not there at that point in the game so yea, its not great for binge reading.
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>>1057030

I have this beautiful vision of one of Roarke's kids piloting an AltGraf Custom with a squad of Dutchmen, Libras, and Valkyries.

Also, thanks to the guy who made the Chimera, an initially somewhat silly character has become one of my favorites with a real backstory.
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>>1057040
Oh I will still make machines and enjoy this quest. The tournament is me flexing my muscles and enjoying some crazyness myself. Win or lose, I hope this coming event is fun.
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>>1057040
I've been here since thread 1, I ain't going anywhere, I remember us picking Fists as our thing and the 80's music mixes, it was glorious. I remember the early discussion of the fist bit system in that same thread (I think I wanted to call it the hecatoncheires system or something).
I'm here till the end.
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>>1057040
>once it's over people will vanish or stop participating so much

Hahaha, no. This quest introduced me to about the only TTRPG setting I really got interested in. Plus I enjoy the characters and setting way to much to give it up.

At some point I'm going to see if I can recreate Dann of Thursday in Mekton. Because Gun X Sword is fucking amazing.
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Oh, I forgot about Life of a Magister on Anonkun.

Nom updates as quickly as a dead armadillo scrapes itself off the pavement, but he's a very skilled writer and he's put a lot of work into his world (me being a Romefag (Romeabu?) helps.)

>>1057041
I assume that what I say doesn't affect anyone, because it's the futile sputterings of someone on 4chan, just like everything else on the site, and can in no way affect you if you don't want it to. At least that's how I treat everything, I don't really see how you could do otherwise.

>>1057040
Now that I've caught up and can participate, you couldn't get rid of me if you wanted to.

>>1057050
>No Rolling Thunder
Well, it IS pretty bad, I will admit that.
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>>1057065
Ayyyyy comrade in good taste! Loved me some mecha western shenanigans.
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>>1057065
Ah, I think that may be the first mecha anime I watched aside from like Escaflowne when I was 10 or 12
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>>1057040
This is easy to deal with, our new ships are needing Ace's teams, and the Tourney is going to be the perfect oportunity to get some of the... So you turn our characters in secondary characters that you let us controls when you feel like it, like in small side-quests, to keep a interest on them.

Also, you could let us vote on what to produce in the Psyche production lines and suggest designs.... That would let the mechanerds here appeased and going crazy with their designs Ideas...
But please put karen to oversee that, or we would go full retard and start to make an army of flying ostichs mounting on tanks equiped with dual BOOMsticks.

*Ahem*

And you can always create new events like these to keep the interest... just don't exaggerate on it or they will lose effect.

Oh, and if our characters survive to the Second generation game... Akai is probably going to turn into Not!Yuiyui because it is obviously her destiny.

And about Thunder... Even if we keep fighting, I just love the way that he can keep sane when everyone elses dives into madness with me... And then he goes back to his crazy edgelord-self who just wants to fuck/Kill everything on side and theorizes about how we are crazy by not following his instructions.

I love this guy.
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>>1057072
I think my first was G Gundam
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>>1057040
I came for the mechs and will most likely stay for the mechs, if I get the chance to whup some other anons along the way all the better I fully expect to get rocked. Still get the urges to make more dumb mechs every couple of days.
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>>1057074
> an army of flying ostriches mounting on tanks equipped with dual BOOMsticks.

We're not??
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>>1057070
Gun X Sword is my all time favorite anime. It's so good.
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>>1057079
Mine was Stardust Memory. Best Gundam MAs ever.
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>>1057074
>flying ostriches mounting on tanks equipped with dual BOOMsticks.
You realize I have to try this now right?
>>1057079
Watching G gundam now for the first time, been enjoying it a lot, some of the national gundam designs are just silly though fucking nether gundam
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>>1057048
>Does that include all of killertpu. Fucker can't finish one before he starts 3 more.
Yeah to be honest most of his stuff doesn't really jive with me, so it doesn't bother me that much. I also greatly enjoy qyubey's Maiden White quest when I feel the urges, been reading it ever since it got started on old /tg/.

>>1057068
Oh, I forgot about Life of a Magister on Anonkun.
Legion hyp to be honest, I don't really like all the smut in that quest, I feel it detracts from the sweet spirit fighting and political intrigue.
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>>1057063

80s music and fists were the best decisions anyone has ever made in any quest, and the credit for that belongs squarely to you, the players.
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>>1057068
Am I going to have to smack you with a stick? The Rolling Thunder makes for an excellent defense/ artillery machine. Not a pursuit machine.
>>1057072
Shit, I think that was mine too. Though Battletech was also something I remembered.
>>1057050
Will be an interesting thing to see indeed.
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>>1057087
>qyubey's Maiden White
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>>1057087
I just skipped them, I would much rather have a fade to black and already be on the front.
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>>1057086
YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP ALL G GUNDAM MECHS ARE GREAT Just wait till you find out the secret of Neo-Holland's mech
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>>1057084
Should've build the Val Varo instead of the Astray Red Frame. Goddamnit.
>TFW no Kelley Layzner
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>>1057065

I loved Gun X Sword. It's rare that an anime has such a pitch-perfect ending, and the homages were superb.
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>>1057088
The fact anyone backed me up on going pure brawl still shocks me
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>>1057089
Only the Valkyrie has more MA, and even then it's only 50...
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>>1057093
I'm not saying its bad, just silly which is refreshing after marathoning 0079, Zeta, ZZ, CCA and War in the Pocket. haven't seen it in action yet though.
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>>1057098
Hey speaking of the tourney where them brackets at Wong?
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>>1057047

The fact that Brazil is ardently pro-Avalon and you're pro-UJCIDF is incredibly encouraging to me, it means I'm showing you correctly how they are in my mind, both sides that someone is willing to fight for and take pride in.
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>>1057103
I wouldn't say i'm pro UJCIDF, just super pro-human fuck those dirty xeno bastards
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>It's rare that an anime has such a pitch-perfect ending

Truth. I really liked how nobody got on Van's case about wanting revenge.

Because EVERYONE wanted that motherfucker dead near the end.
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>>1057103
More Dame Brazilia x Captain Thunder fanfics, when?
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>>1057100
Yes, for a few moments. At that point it peters off to 10 MA, which several machines are faster than. The F-type can reach a top speed of 23 MA for longer. Likewise, your armaments are better designed for ranged firing and aiming to compensate for it's slightly worse MV. It's a good machine, but it's not one I would consider pursuit.
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>>1057108
I mean, they're technically human. Everyone but the Paladins anyway, and even then you could argue they're just modified humans.

Fuck the Greenmen though, especially the Lady. People taking away another person's freedom like that triggers me like the nothing else, I can't help but hate someone that does it when I read about it. I don't know if that's because I'm American (albeit a pretty shit one) or if it's just me.

Which reminds me of the most recent Starcaller Quest, and that I haven't finished it. It's really good, and gets bonus points because the MC's last name is also Starwind.

>>1057115
They have boosters? Didn't even look for them.
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>>1057116
There not Humans any more just filthy space traitors who betrayed all of humanity by not killing the Greenman on sight
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>>1057116
>Which reminds me of the most recent Starcaller Quest, and that I haven't finished it.
Holy fuck what even happened there. I think I need sleep

Which reminds me of the most recent Starcaller Quest THREAD, and that I haven't MENTIONED it.
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>>1057074

There are many appropriate pictures for grown-up Akai.

As for the tourney characters, I know for a fact that in gen 2 you'll be invited to vote on two things...the mother of your character, and their mentor, with their mentor being one of the surviving tourneygoers.
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>>1057116
5 CP with max boost 10. A good mix of longevity and flexibility.
>>1057121
>Maxwell as mentor
>Gain the ability to use anything as a weapon.
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>>1057121
>Mai Uaifu
>They just learn how to paint models
Worst timeline.
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>>1057083

I especially liked these guys, the whole clash between old-fashioned combining mecha aesthetic and newfangled Evangelion-inspired more edgy and tentacleish mecha made it a really good episode. To be honest, they kind of inspired Team Orange Pekoe a little bit.
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>>1057119
Players overreact and whine like babies about railroading during a session where we justifiably lose all muscle control.

That's about it. Didn't even last that long.
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>>1057116
Nah it isn't just because you're american, but I'm sure that it helps...
I feel the same thing about the lady, but the problem is, I don't think that its racional to go full "BURN HER AT THE STAKE!GAS THE KNIGHTS!SYSTEM WAR NOW!" when we still don't know what part she played on the war.
There is still many truth to be unraveled, and I'm the type of person to prefer to see all proofs before giving the final judgement... But we can't let her to continue being in power when things are the way they are, and even in the avalonian monarchy, their people should at least have the right to choose to go or stay instead of being all ruled by the monarchy because they just happened to be born there...
But I think that there are aspects of the avalonian culture, and maybe even their monarchy, that should be left intact as not everything about them is rotten...
But Jupiter has to fall, that thing is just obcene.
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>>1057128
The best part is the edgy pilot is the guy who voiced Gai from GaoGaiGar. Considering one name for that combiner was Mexican GaoGaiGar, it was pretty neat to find out.
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>>1057099

The fact that I doubted it for even an instant still shocks me.
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>>1057129
Oh, I've read it. I was there. I just forgot how to speak English or something. Honestly that guy complaining was real fucking stupid.
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>>1057121
>Finn as a mentor
>Learn esoteric rituals for a dead religion
Best choice though it is disconcerting that we can't pick Roarke or his wives as a mentor
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>>1057135
We are likely having 3 kids for each wife. The hand picked children are probably going to be boss fights.
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>>1057132
By the way Wong, on a scale of 1 to how much Clemmy loves Roarke, how much do you like Mobile Armor? And would it affect your decision to add a most likely subpar and stupid expensive totally viable and cost effective mobile armor to the quest?
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>>1057121
>Alexander as a mentor
>learn how to avoid ever going into debt.
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>>1057121
Hm... That could work too.
It's just that Yuiyui is Megumin's mother, so i just took my pic from there.

Also... I was thinking of one of her children going to the Tourney, if the thing with Victor gets to this point... If not, well... Dutch-senpai suggested on her being a "wizard" to get real magical powers!
....
Okay, maybe the sleepyness finally caught up with me.

Avalonanon and me could also change places of Knight x Mage or Girl and Boy this time also... But I'm thinking too far ahead.

What do you think about the production line voting thing? Dutch senpai got the stats for that if I'm not mistaken, the only thing you should do is to giving us a limit amount of CP per production line per day and the number of lines... Then we could vote on whats gets produced in what order...
I'm sure people are already going mad with that, as the "BOOMSTICK TANK!" suggestions seem to prove...
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>>1057121
>Akai as a mentor
>Learns special effects, magic tricks, pseudo-occult bullshit, meme magic, old memes, mythology, explosive crafting, how to dress in appropriately for the type of exaggerated attention you want, missile aiming, some actual mechanic and UNENDING WEEABOO CULTURE.
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>>1057148
Well, the upper limit for what I could call 'cheapish' machines, ones that are in the same level of difficulty as tourney mechs is 225. 5 days to make one of those. After that, the rolls would require more engineers to oversee it which could eat at production. The thing with mechriders is that they are force multipliers, but are also the sort of machines that be easily squandered and taken. Priority should be making mechs that are viable for our vast army of pilots before getting them their accessories.
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>>1057129

I'm amazed there's only been one accusation of railroading so far in this quest, and if I recall it was when Roarke slept with Red Siren without players getting to vote yea or nay on it and making Karen cry.
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>>1057159
No, there was also the Amos x Duchess battle... but they easily forgot after we won so easily.
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>>1057159
But Wong that only made it better

Oh so is Jem confirmed for Roarke and Rosita's daughter? I mean it kind of has to happen doesn't it?
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>>1057135

They don't count. Just as an example, if you pick Clemmy (which makes your gen 2 character Dio), you'll have all kinds of fond, terrifying memories of mom teaching you how to headbutt people and cut someone open without getting your sword caught on the bones.
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>>1057159
Before I forget Two suggestions for Knights
>NotKyouya
Because we would love to punch his face in, inside and out of the robot,
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>>1057142

Mecha tend to come up as they come up, but I've been meaning to do more joint operations with Amos and the Martians, so a mobile armor would come in handy right about nowish.
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>>1057170
>Amos and the Martians
Well, I don't think it would be good for that since it's 335 CP (and no longer ALMOST as expensive as a SOUL mech.) Unless it's some sort of maguffin Martian prototype inexplicably named after the gods of Jupiter's region. Otherwise it's totally Halal.

http://pastebin.com/hvUk7Xi0
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>>1056945
Zolomon motherfucking Ringo, Fuck if i still had my old computer i would have posted either the advice Zolomon Or advice Lister you know the ones
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>>1057168
Second suggestion...
>Not!Felix
Neko-trap-knight. I'm sure that you can come up with some serious back story of this one, as it already have all the elements necessary for drama and shenanigans.
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>>1057170
>>1057176
Well, I guess you could re-name everything (I don't really care what it's named) but I don't know if you would want to do the research to find names.
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>>1057162

Oh no, you all voted for that against my warning you that no punches were going to be pulled and that it could very easily lead to Garret and Amos getting captured. It actually substantially changed the direction of the Amos story, because there was no longer the Berenger as this monstrous Pyramid Head-esque nemesis lurking outside the safety of Innsmouth.
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>>1057179
>Qu'liri Paladin Felix
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>>1057169

Obviously we will have to fill his airway with ice.
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>>1057168
It is going to be really hard to pick someone besides Dio for me as a second gen character, if for no other reason than it making our music selection easy: Dio!
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>>1057178
Aah fuck, I could've name my tank Big Zol. What the fuck was I thinking?
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>>1057183
I love the Amos story because we turned this spooky war is hell space vietnam into AMOS WEDGE; HERO OF JOVE.
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>>1057188
Quick change the name.

Its not finalised and then your tourny character can go:

WHEN THE BIG ZOL IS MASS PRODUCED.
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>>1057176
>http://pastebin.com/hvUk7Xi0

Is the Thunderbolt a beam cannon or a SP cannon? I'm assuming beam.

Also, are you sure about the weight? For some reason I thought tanks had -2 MV, which would put it at -7 (before I slapped Weight Efficiency on it). At 235, which is what it's listed at, it's quite acceptable for a Martian ace.
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>>1056995
I dropped house awhile back because it became less of a quest and more of a civ. around the middle of civil war.
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>>1057179
>>1057191
Could you change the name of my mech to Big Zol? I'll feed you spicy memes.
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>>1057189
>Wong plans "Rogue One"
>We turn it: Not!EXPENDABLES IN SPAAAAACE!
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>>1057183

No one expected the fuck you missile to actually work.

Also based on what you told us, Simon's gf would have died in that initial assault against the paladin, wouldn't she?
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>>1057196
Maybe, if i'm not mistaken he rolled even to see how many Scimittar would be destroyed, by playing a few turns of combat between them and the Paladin.
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>>1057192
Oh yeah, Dutchman anon gave Brazil a heart attack because of that. The errata in the back of Zeta Plus corrects the original book (which didn't give tanks -1 MV) and thought it was for the Plus book. They only have -1.

And yeah, it's just a beam.

So I don't really know how this goes... You can use it however you want? Change the name, optimize it, whatever. Just being able to get in in the game would be ridiculously cool.
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>>1057196
I am still smug that my missile was the one that did it. It was beautiful to watch.
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>>1057189

Bringing the fight to every Knight!

Puts a beating on the Avalon!

Taking a bat to each traitor cat!

Going Hagar on that one Major!
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>>1057130
See I thought we all agreed the bitch can do whatever the fuck she wants, so long as she personally stays the hell outta SOL
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>>1057168
>Pick Samatha
>Be Kamille
>Be Son of the Black Ogre
>Grew up forced into dresses by half-sibilings.
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>>1057203
Fairchild is going to be so confused when she sees the end of this scenario. On one hand, REEE the Major! On the other, he safely took down the prototype and allowed the pilot to gain control, saving a major project that the Major would likely have killed. If the Major is the Devil, Amos is the Angel on Fairchild's shoulder.

Also, have a vid of future Amos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCMNWAJiz5Y
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>>1057206

No. I personally guarantee there will be no feminizing of the Kamille. People who are gay for Kamille just need to admit it and deal with it, he's easily one of the manlier gundam protags.
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>>1057205
Yah but we owe it to our mom to murder ever Greenman we ever meet.

>>1057206
>Dad and "Mom" are always super supportive
>Never realize I want to be a man
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Wong with the bantz
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>>1057203
>Presenting the hit play: Amos, A hero

>Featuring the hit songs "Do you hear Qu'liri sing", "Holding out for Amos"

>Based on a true story
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>>1057208
How can you feminize what is already female? Is this one of your ancient Chinese riddles Wong?
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>>1057208
>people still trying to feminize Kamille
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>>1057215

I lost it at Fa.
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>>1057215
Whats worse, two dead waifus or one dead waifu and one dead mom?
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>>1057208
Man, even if thats the case I don't think we'd stop just to tease the guy. Also, Richard and Mile's kid is going to be horrifying. Those viking genes with Mile's attitude? The horror.
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>>1057219
So, next session Tomorrow(Today)?

Its almost 8AM here and the sun is already up since 5 and something... So I should prepare to sleep.

>>1057223
>Implying it won't be just Thunderbird.
>Implying that his character won't be their son who was mentored by his old Viking character
>Implying that he isn't going to try my character and continue to do so until he has better luck than Lori's cousin.
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>>1057236
>try to kill my character
Even my magic is failing to overcome such bloodlust!
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>>1057170
I did a bird thing based on the mobile armor from IBO a while ago. Not 100% sure about the cost but I think its mostly right. http://pastebin.com/DtPa4A1d

Also have an idea for a big crab thing that has a second pilot using a gun in a second head mounted on top but I know you said you werent a fan of 2 pilot mechs recently.
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>>1057219
Next session when?
Please don't leave me hanging, Wong.
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>>1057121
Victor approves of this vision of the future
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>>1057148
One of Akai and Victor children should be a slam poet. Blow people up with mad oratory missile barrages
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>>1057170
There's the Tulwar Mod Zero I made a while back.
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Damn. I am regreting that i missed this thread. CURSE YOU SCHOOL!
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>>1057278
Tomorrow it looks like.
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Nedermeyer with the Islander rifle is amazing. Bless you Wong.
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>>1057121
>Inari as a mentor
>Kid has to carry a tiny ancient Indian woman everywhere like Luke with Yoda
>Learns every facet of standard Mech Combat
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>>1056052
I've figured out why the S-Squilla is so less menacing than I expected. Its because some silly bugger made a pair of quick variable energy shield. You can literally save 72 CP by separating the systems. Also has the bonus of not shorting out your offense for a turn if the attack comes in too hard.

[Hands] Beam Fists x2 (stats show an individual fist): WA+3, 10K (only 2K of structure), EMW (treats SP as 4 less than usual), Handy, Quick, 70 CP, 4 Spaces, 1 ton
Beam Shields DA 0, 8SP, 34 CP 4 spaces, 1
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Potential Martian mobile armor. Its basically an upsidedown version of Rashads Khanda.
http://pastebin.com/mLrEc5Rt

I must say its quite liberating to try making something without the 140 CP limit.
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>>1057390
Whoops, forgot I swapped out the second autocannon. http://pastebin.com/QDjhB86e
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Waiiit, is Simon's biological father still alive?
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>>1057374

That's an excellent point. Fixed!
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>>1057336

Slam poetry is the lowest form of pseudo art, though.
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>>1057458
I made it stronger didn't I?
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>>1057464
that child is the youngest and a tad edgy. they have the worst traits of an author father and a chunni mother. they will grow out of it and use that experience to develop some real creative talent...hopefully
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>>1057050
Can't wait to see what he's become from the bare bones I gave.

>that feeling when you sleep through all the good discussions because you work a mid-shift job.
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>>1057332
>Victor gets home after work.
>Is mobed by weeaboo children.
>Suddenly, 11/10 witch waifu appears.
>>"Welcome home darling, what will you want first? Dinner? Bath? Or ...WA-TA-SHI?"
>she says embracing him while undoing the bindings of her dress.
>Can't breath.
>Wake up.
>It was just a dream.
>Akai hat is over his face and was suffocating him, but she is nowhere to be seen.
>...
>Spends the rest of the day paranoid about if weeaboo dream magic is real.

>>1057336
Oh god... Let me see where this goes.
Do you want to play with a female character this time? I'm okay with it.
I'm thinking of maybe playing with one of Lori's children who gets trained by Victor and becomes the next Lance user... And maybe ends up having a romance with one of his daughters after getting teased multiple times by Akai.
Because Victor and Akai are secretly competing to see which of their apprentices will win the tourney.
But at the same time... Maybe playing as Not!Onna Kishi would be cool too.

Whatever... its to soon to think about this yet.

>>1057485
...I can already imagine they doing haiku at almost every turn of each fight...
So, Darling, how many children do you want? ^^
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>>1057553
3-4 is manageable. But if you want to start a whole clan, then my duty is clear.
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>>1057553
You are extremely cancerous to this quest. Please for the love of God stop posting and writing stupid fan fiction for some character you came up with. In fact stop posting all together.
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>>1057578
1/7
try harder
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>>1057578
>1 post by this ID
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Are you even trying?
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>>1057599
>Anything that criticises me is bait
Sure keep telling yourself that.
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>>1057599
Honestly, you can be a bit obnoxious.
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>>1057599
In all honesty Brazil, tone it down a bit
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>>1057604
>Anything that criticises me can't be bait
Sure keep telling yourself that.
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is the board being raided or something?
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>>1057612
I know, but I'm just joking around or just throwing some Ideas to see what Avalonanon has in mind for the second gen, I'm not serious about expecting Wong to include all my fanfics or something, and even he already knows that.
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>>1057624
i think people are just jealous that your tourney entree got so much attention from Wong and their's didn't
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>>1057621
It is odd to see a bunch of people pop up just to bitch and then leave. While Br is a BR and all the hue that entails, I am no fan of consensus cracking and pushing through IP cycling. In the mean time, working on the steel head a what if scenario for a Betta given a ton of armor instead of stealth, and anti-beam shenanigans.
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>>1057624
>>1057631
>entree
Akai is a main dish now?
Speaking of tourney entries, Has mine finished being checked over? http://pastebin.com/sR0KhwEu
apologies if I'm being pushy about this.
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>>1057638
Two we're me since I'm in class and phoneposting
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>>1057631
This is not true, Doan, Hunk an Chimera receive at least the same amount of attention I get if not even more, and almost everyone already had screentime or even small references for their characthers.
And there is also katherine who got more screentime than anybody else.

And I don't think that they are just jealous, I can be pretty random or weeb sometimes, and that seems to anger a few people, even if other just think of it as funny.
>>1057639
No problem, and yes, I had checked it... But wasn't the head a Medium Striker? Why did you change that?Ohhh... Backup sensors?
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>>1057650
haters gonna hate. you're still number one in my book
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>>1057676
K-Kouhai... Do you really mean it?
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>>1057689
i wouldn't say it if i didn't mean it.
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>>1057650
yeah, could only fit backup sensors and such on by shaving down the head a bit, making the head weaker doesn't matter as much with backup sensors though so its ok, also moved the cockpit to the torso for safeties sake.
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>>1057695
>FULL DOKI-DOKI
I...
I don't even know what to say...
...Thank you, kouhai, you're awesome too ^^
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>>1057704
having the cockpit in the torso is always a nice and safe choice
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>>1057704
IT WAS ON YOUR HEAD!?
ARE YOU CRAZY!?
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>>1057708
yeah... I originally had it in the head, the weakest and least armored part of the mech... not sure how I missed that....
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>>1057638
> While Br is a BR and all the hue that entails
I have a theory about how the HUE begins... I think it has mostly to do with the portuguese nobles mindset of "avoiding confrontation through trickery" that fused with a "joke about your problems to not cry because of them" mindset that is very common around here...

Not that it matters much now... But sometimes it makes me think about where this is going...
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>>1057713
glad you saw the error of your ways
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>>1057732
Thats quite interesting. Still, I finished up the Steel Head. Almost 280 CP and so full of fun.
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>>1058006
AND I FORGOT THE BLOODY BIN AGAIN. http://pastebin.com/LYvr10SG
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>>1057474
you did you mad man. And if it goes berserk again we need to clean up after it.
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I'll be late for the session today, father dragged me to copacabana and it'll take sometime before I get home again...
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>>1057504

Someone you've seen before more than once.

>>1057553

Let's not think that far ahead, shall we? It creates an awful lot of extra work for me.

>>1057631

Honestly, the one whose daily life receives the most consideration from me is Kathrine. I may not be 100% clear even in my own mind if she's actually been Rosita's friend/stooge since childhood, so I can't confirm THAT, but in its own way it kind of works. Rosita is exactly the kind of person to have an incredibly overworked assistant/First Mate.
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>>1057713

Most jetform mecha do.
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I wish there was some way to combine Fuse missiles with the Balloon version of the shadow projector.
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>>1058535
could deploy the balloons and then put the mines inside them.
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Technical difficulties resolved, starting soon.
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So... playing around with transforming mechs now
got one that goes from a hybrid form (1.5xMA -1 MV) to a tank form (+2 SP all armor, -1 MV)
Couldn't give it much stuff though and the frame is really light, and it only has 1 arm, the other being replaced with a shield bolted to the torso so it works in both forms.

http://pastebin.com/cqRcVfaA
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>>1058668
Is my internet working? OR everyone has just been silent?
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You're a bit busy digging Simon and the S-Squilla out of the rubble with your mecha to notice when they first show up. In fact, you only become aware of them when a Morgan II taps the Delphinius on the pauldron, salutes, and politely hails you with a request to return to the ship. That's when you notice that there are rather a lot more mecha than there are aboard the Cicero and Cassim's Folly in the air, and even the Bluegills aren't quite as elderly as those of the Innsmouth gendarmes. Each has a fresh coat of paint, and a purple stripe drawn diagonally across its chest like a bandolier. Garret, for some reason, groans when he sees them, “I really hoped he'd show up later than this.” He mutters. Which, of course, gives you the immediate suspicion that Colonel Luxol has arrived...ahead of schedule. A medical tank rolls up on its chubby caterpillar treads, dispensing medical personnel who help the Bluegill pilots onto stretchers and begin searching for other survivors.

Simon ejects from his mech, and you carry him back to the ship in your hand, where you see a fresh new Pangassius-class cruiser of the same make as the Cicero parked in the field, along with a pair of larger Channel-class heavy cruisers. From the names emblazoned on their hulls, you mark the small one as the Suetonius, and the two larger ones as the Archimedes and Petronius. Each has a diagonal purple stripe across the bow, matching the mecha buzzing around them. Although the devastation from the earthquake looks terrible, the relief effort seems thorough and well-organized. Hospital tents have been set up, and there's a steady stream of traffic to and from them. You've never met Colonel Trevor Luxol, Garret's older brother, but already you're impressed by the fact that his first order of business has been to handle a crisis.

“Anyone hurt?” Marilyn questions over the comms as she gives you clearance to land. She's dressed somewhat awkwardly, wearing a pair of mechanic's coveralls over her casual clothes, and although you know she's being a bit informal you can understand her concern, “After a certain girl launched without permission coughNEDERMEYERcough, I got worried, yaknow?”

“We're all fine, Lin.” Garret promises her, “We got Simon out of there safe and did what we could to minimize the damage.”

“That's good, but, uh, you've been ordered to report to the bridge. Everyone but Cathy.” She hastily adds the last part before Nedermeyer can ask.

Well, you're a soldier, so you do as you're told.

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>>1058764
Just work up and now at work. Soooo much that I missed in between session.
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>>1058764
we're all just quietly waiting
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>>1058764
Working on the Masu now that the steelhead is finished. Looking at it, the thing will be more mobile, less armored, and using a mated beam/standard gun.
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>>1058765
I was wondering why you were posting Treize
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>>1058765
Time to listen to someone talk out of their brasshole.

Buckle up ladies and gentlmen, looks like some fucks are about to start shifting blame around.

Our girl is safe, and so is simon, cause they're part of this project and I doubt a couple of deaths aren't going to make them shelve it.

We're good, cause propaganda, and Garret should be okay due to good old fashioned Nepotisim.

Probably going to aim for the Captain.
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>>1058810
..Did you feel a chill about how this may turn out if he is Treize capable?
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>>1058851
I've never seen Wing so I have no idea
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>>1058844
Might not be any of the Innmouth group since they did their job. I think the real blame may be put on Fairchild. She pushed the project pretty hard and fast with no oversight and right now she is bitching about her Major who got socked for assaulting and threatening Garret. Getting a feeling that Fairchild's star is starting to wane.
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>>1058871
He's a Gundam antagonist who arguably ended up winning, depending on your interpretation of his overall goals.
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>>1058881

True. But even an old bitch still has teeth.

If she's going down you can bet your balls she ain't going to do it quietly.

The old cunt probably has blackmail for days on some of her higher ups. It'll be pretty damn dangerous to use of course, but if she's desperate enough she might just do it.

That being said the manuver is a double edged sword. The moment she uses that blackmail a lot of brass is going to be very fucking interested in what she does know, and that could be just as bad, if not worse, than any punishment she might get from this fiasco.
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>>1058917
And then you have Roarke and the fact someone might just pay him to take care of her and get her out of everybody's hair
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You do see Marilyn run up and nearly knock Garret off his feet with a hug on your way out the door. You pretend not to see him hug her back, and you definitely don't listen in on what they're saying to each other. You know it all too well. Irina joins you on your way to the bridge, looking nervous. She squeezes your hand, and asks you quietly on the lift to the bridge, “Do you know where that Martian went after he dropped us off?”

“Who? Oh, the young officer, right, him. No, weren't you and the Fleurs the last ones to see him?” You ask, wondering what she's getting at.

She snorts, “Officer? That's a fine term for it. If you see him again, arrest him.” She's scowling.

You blink at her, “On what charges, exactly? He helped us out, remember?”

Her scowl deepens. “Space piracy. He tried to talk to me after you left, and...made me an offer. I told him to go deliver it to Pluton.”

“Well, if he tried flirting with you, I'm obligated to rough him up, but that's hardly space piracy.” You object.

She growls slightly, “It had to do with my sister. He's associated with her somehow.”

You sigh heavily, “Alright, if I see him again, I'll try to bring him in.”

“W-what are you guys talking about?” Simon asks innocently.

“Nothing. Don't eavesdrop, it makes your ears grow big.” Irina tsks, tugging sharply on Simon's ear, “I'm glad you're not hurt, but I'm not looking forward to any heat I'm going to take from this. Corporate politics are as cutthroat as the Avalonians.”

With a polite little ding, the lift arrives, the doors hissing smoothly open. You make your way to the bridge, where Captain Clearwater is staring moodily out through the ships monitors. Two female bridge officers, both native Qu'liri with the feline ears and tails, are fussing over him. One is fixing his hair with a brush, the other is holding up a hand mirror so the first can examine her work properly. You do a brief double-take, “Captain, wait, those two were with the...” The last time you saw them, they were wearing maid uniforms and brandishing guns.

The Captain waves it off, “They're loyal citizens who volunteered for duty, I made sure of it. You're not rebels anymore, right lovelies?” He smiles sunnily.

“Myaaa~ We were horribly misled.” The first says, nodding.

The second clasps her hands together over her chest, “We just wanted to get closer to the Captain! We didn't want anybody to get hurt, honest!”

The Captain examines his hair, and nods, “That will do, girls. Run along now.”

They both curtsy, and scamper off, giggling.

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>>1058887
>>1058871
Also, one of the protagonist asked him "How many men died for you?"
He gave an exact number, and started listing names.
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>>1058930
>Hey, Roarke, could you come and deal with our little Fairchild problem?

>"Fuck no, she causes so much shit at home it makes you guys more disorganized and easier to rob."

And then he proceeds to do it anyway.
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>>1058937
>Corporate politics are as cutthroat as the Avalonians.”

>tfw so far the Avalonians have been more upfront overall than the UJCIDF

Welp.
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>>1058917
I think her going full 'taking you down with me' is the best option for any upstart. Fairchild got to where she was because she is pretty heavily tied and had a lot of push. Dragging out a lot of veterans to put in her people. All it takes is someone going, 'I know how corrupt she is, if you help me in this and that, I'll get your seat back from her group.' and they will have support. Especially if she fucks up a major event like say.. negotiations.
>>1058930
That can go so many ways, but the best would be agreeing to his claims for the short term and tie up some loose ends in regards to Fairchild. He gets his revenge, his small kingdom, his wives, and any idiot who ventures into reach gets their limbs bitten off.
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>>1058952
KEK
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>>1058943
Specifically, 99,822 people.
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>>1058967
>Dame Brazilia(Cellphone)

I wonder what it says about me that I exclusively use my phone to participate in this thread.

Hell, I designed my Mecha on this phone.
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>>1058981
You're have the power of a desktop computer in the palm of your hands. Welcome to the future, buddy.
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>>1058981
you madman
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>>1058981
As expected of oba-sama Inari! She is completely on another level '-'

Also... What would happen if someone chosed Inari as their mother on the second gen...? Would they be her Grandchildren?
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Captain Clearwater sees you staring, smiles, and shrugs, “Everyone deserves a second chance. They didn't quite understand where the line was between agitating for better conditions and committing an act of terrorism. I probably wouldn't have been able to recruit them if you hadn't handled things so adroitly, Lieutenant. Marilyn is keeping tabs on them, if they're contacting the rebels we'll be the first to know, and maybe we can use that for ourselves.” His smile fades as he looks out at the hospital tents, “What a mess this is. There shouldn't even be earthquakes in this region. Thank goodness the Colonel got our distress signal.”

As the doors to the bridge start to close, you see a small party of MPs and a tall, straight-backed man with an impeccably crisp purple-and-white uniform walking forward. One of the MPs hurries up and waves his hand between the doors to stop them from closing. The Colonel, and from his uniform this must be he, does bear a lot of resemblance to Garret. He's handsome, with short, sandy hair, bushy eyebrows, and an aquiline nose. A black halfcape hangs over his left shoulder. “My apologies for my tardiness, gentlemen, I had to acquire the footage from Lieutenant Wedge's mech. It's a fine machine, my boy.” He smiles as you all exchange salutes. Then he grins, and hugs Garret, mussing his hair, “Little Gary! Don't you look so grown up!”

“Stoppit.” Garret pleads, shoving at his older brother, “Lemmego!”

“Nonsense!” The Colonel chuckles, getting out his PC, throwing his arm around the Ensign, and flashing a radiant grin as he snaps a picture of the two of them, “This is going straight to father...and probably to JNN, at some point. Matthias!” Trevor Luxol grins, “How long has it been since the Academy, eh? I remember you used to have quite the cricket pitch. Still keeping your hand in?”

Captain Clearwater shrugs, “Much as I'd like to blame the occasional sticky wicket, I'm afraid I've gone all to rust.”

“Nonsense, old boy! I'm sure you're just playing modest.” The Colonel chuckles. The bridge has been cleared for this meeting, so he grabs the helmsman's chair and takes a seat, adjusting the cavalry saber at his side to fit comfortably, “First things first.” He gestures, and one of the MPs sets up the bridge's main screen to display the view from the S-Delphinius as it entered combat with the S-Squilla, “Forgive me for starting in media res, but I had a chance to review the security camera footage from the building site on my way up here.

“...How did you do that?” The Captain asks, looking impressed.

The Colonel looks at him askance, then shakes his head, “Apparently, some things never change.”

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>>1059024
I should not like you, but I feel myself liking you Trevor.
>>1059023
Mothers are the choice of the wives we got Br. Next gen likely involves the many spawn of roarke.
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>>1059084
And Kamille gets stuffed into a dress as his espionage training by his Mom Sam. She require all of her kids be able to disguise themselves as whomever they can at a moment's notice.
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Irina looks like she's just eaten a fistful of crabapples as she watches the S-Squilla tear its way through buildings, and sees the three mecha on your side shooting it down. The Colonel watches with his fingers steepled and an intent expression on his face. Simon, who you talked out of requesting the chance to take responsibility for this mess, just looks ill.

Finally, Colonel Luxol sighs, and pauses the footage after the S-Squilla throws itself over the downed pilots to protect them, “Well then. I admit, I thought this was a foolhardy endeavor from the beginning, I never expected to produce results on this scale.” He frowns, “Wasn't the first live-weapons test to begin in a month?”

Irina's mouth sounds dry as she responds, but her voice is steady, “The General believed speeding things up would mean a valuable weapon would reach the battlefield sooner, sir.”

The Colonel tsks, “How unsurprising. Such an inelegant woman, I suppose she thought it would be impressive that it was produced ahead of schedule. Still, it's unlikely she'll suffer any consequences from this, even if her worth has become less pronounced of late. Unfortunately, my sources tell me that her trip back to the Solar System is a personal matter and should be resolved in a couple of days. Something about a burglary at her home.” For some reason, he smiles, “You'd think someone with half of the senate in her pocket would have better security, wouldn't you?” He glances at Simon, “You're shaking. Why?”

“People died because of me, sir.” Simon admits.

The Colonel shakes his head, “It's a pity, but it won't be the last time, particularly if you intend to command someday. I'm reassured by your expression, my boy, you won't ever forget that they died, and why, and because of that you will assuredly learn and grow from it. Victory is the greatest tribute to those who have fallen. It looks as though you were able to gain control of the S-Squilla by the end, and because you are the only pilot to do so, and because we still aren't sure if the Paladins imprint on one user or can be piloted by anyone, we cannot risk an adverse reaction from reassigning a more experienced operator to it. For that matter, I wouldn't want to, it fits your fighting style neatly. Consider your punishment to be continuing to pilot the S-Squilla. Never, ever forget why you fight. A man's personal baggage is less important than his cause. Garret, your shooting could use some work. Your punishment is to spend time with me at the range, getting some practice in. As for Master Sergeant Nedermeyer, she's a bit rash but shows a great deal of promise, I see no cause for disciplinary measures there.” He clears his throat, “The Paladins are a mystery, for all we know this happens every time a new one is taken on its maiden journey. That you achieved command of it at all is a remarkable feat, Ensign Biggs. Do accept my commendation on that count.”

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>>1059095
Roarke and Clemmy's kid (Dio) will probably form a neo-Zeon esq group, Roarke and Karens kid will probably end up designing the Devil Gundam or some other monstrosity, Roarke and Reds kid... I guess someone from macross? that anime involves singing and mechs right? not sure where to start watching that series...
Not sure about Roarke and Fatima, maybe that brown skinned white haired kid from Iron Blooded Orphans?

anyone have better ideas?
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>>1059118
Lori's kid.
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>>1059118
Have we put any more thought into Kawai being Clemmy and Roarke's kid? Kawai Hanabi, she's a doll, and perfect.
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>>1059137
Haven't seen Gundam Wing yet, not too sure who that is, looks right though

>>1059146
Iirc Clemmy already mentioned the name dio when Roarke overheard her talking in her sleep one time (unless i'm just going insane and that never happened), no reason she can't have 2 kids though.
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>>1059137
Nah, I have an idea of what the spawn of a paladin and Roarke would be.
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>>1059155
I'd prefer two kids. Dio and Kawai.

...what the ever loving fuck? Captcha jsut had me draw shapes around street signs like it was some connect the dots shit.
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>>1059118
>Roarke and Red Siren

Patrick Colasour from Gundam 00.
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>>1059163

It's been forcing me to do that, with no mouse, for months. I always hit refresh until it lets me select rivers or street signs or something instead. Did you know captcha is literally training google's AI program?
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>>1059118
Just letting my mind wander

Rosita: Jem, Ranma, Asuka
Fatima: Ed (bebop), Gene
Clemmy: Dio, Chie, Seras
Sam: Shiro, Kamille, Naoto, Kamina
Karen: Jonathan, Ryoma, Chibodee
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>>1059163
It's been having me do that sorta thing for months now
>>1059167
I need to watch more gundam, but I have classes... Guess 00 once I finish G.
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>>1059167
Yeah boy.
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>>1059171
Why not set up legacy captchas? It means you would be back to the type in text ones.
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>tfw every time someone brings up the captcha and how much they hate it or how shitty it is it always works perfectly and easily for me and just as fast as it was before

Am I a wizard?
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>>1057103
well im pro-independent belt
and also really need to check for updates holy shit i'm late
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>>1059171
My mousepad is broken, so I'm having to use a shitty touch screen. It's torture.
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mfw I get to completely skip captchas half the time for no reason
>mfw it happened after I typed that
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>>1059084
Waaaaaait.
Can we only choose between the six waifus?
And our only children will be the ones that the anons come up with it?
Are we going to have to become tripfags!?

>>1059116
Wong, pls help

>>1059146
So... the question is... Are you going to play as Kawai or am I going to have to read all the Keijo manga to do her justice?
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>>1059244
I think all of us will control one character from among roarkes kids just as we all control roarke or amos, the other kids will be other POV's we can swap to occasionally like amos or caeser
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>>1058523
>Honestly, the one whose daily life receives the most consideration from me is Kathrine.
Ironically, Lady Unn was one of the alternate inspirations for Kathrine. The other two were Cima Garahau and Selvaria Bles, both of whom were rejected because I wanted Kathrine and Red Siren's relationship to be amusing but friendly, not abusive and unappreciated.
Though personally I think Selvaria makes a better Mappa then Carta Issue does.
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>>1059171
>google's AI program
Next thing we know, google accepts defense contracts from the DoD. One thing leads to another, John Conner is the savior of mankind.
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>>1059244
likely not. Wong seems to have ideas on children so we will have variety. So no, no one has to name fag. We'll likely have choices given to us. I'll get the hose if you try to make us tripfags and namefags.

Still, I'm surprised I am the first to mention Tobias as a potential roarke spawn. Kid WAS a mecha space pirate.
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>>1059259
>Tobias as a potential roarke spawn. Kid WAS a mecha space pirate
Who??
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are we gonna have to make a playlist for each of the kids? Roarkes music played a big part in his character so whoever we play should have one at least.
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>>1059258
>implying that podunk AI won't be so horribly corrupted by the internet that they just brush it under the rug and hope it stops emailing everyone doggie dicks as a joke
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>>1059262
Tobias Arronax
the most based gundam protag to ever exist
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>>1059263
Probably just a playlist for whichever one we control. Everybody else just gets a particular theme song.
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>>1059266
Ultron was corrupted by the internet and tried to recreate the K-T extinction event.
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This guy.
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Irina frowns, “Sir, doesn't the UJCIDF still have the Berenger? I would have thought that the chance to study it might have made the Paladins less mysterious, even if I just so happen to have been left off the panel in charge of investigating it.”

The Colonel shrugs, “We, or rather General Fairchild, do have the Paladin shot down by your Lieutenant Wedge. However, nothing we have done to it seems to have the slightest effect when it comes to activating it. The working theory is that it's due to residual damage from the Lieutenant's missile, however it's also quite possible that the Duchess herself sabotaged it when she was taken. She was, I understand, alone in the cockpit for some time. However, this too presents problems, there is no sign of visible damage. It could be that we simply don't understand how she put it into sleep mode, or it could be that there is a piece missing, some component of its activation that continues to elude us.”

“She isn't talking, is she sir?” You ask, unsurprised.

“No, not even with the utterly distasteful methods General Fairchild has resorted to as of our last communication. She believes it will take more time for the Paladin to crack and reveal the secrets of her mech, but I am of the opinion that it is wasted effort that does nothing but salve her own sense of impotence. From what we do know, Duchess Carnegie is not just a Paladin, she is among the oldest and most strong-willed Paladins. Torture is nothing to her, particularly since our government is at this time unwilling to damage her permanently, and I hear unsubstantiated reports that she amuses herself tormenting her jailers with mind games. Now, a younger and more vulnerable Paladin with something to lose might yield more results, which is currently causing some controversy in the Senate over what they are actually willing to pay for one. Assuming she's for sale at any price.” The Colonel leans back in his chair, smiling, “Well, that's a matter for the General, I'm just here to win the battle for this planet so we can all turn our attention to more productive things.”

“What about the commander of the Avalonian forces, sir?” You question, “I know he's still at large, but now that we control the space around Qu'lir, we have him trapped, don't we?”

“Ah yes.” Captain Clearwater nods, “Lucas Ford of the Gerer.”

“Gerer?” Irina frowns, “I thought it was the Gerin.”

“All in all, there are too many Gers among the Paladins.” The Colonel remarks, “I rather wish they had gone with the Orlando Furioso names, but it seems the Lady of the Woods is a fan of the original French. Ce la vie. It is the Gerin, by the way."

[Continued]
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>>1059305

Oh by all means, offer up the gold, give us the best price you can.

We'll just take that, the ship it came in on, any mechs that catch our fancy, any nice hats, and the high horse you two faced shit eating fucks rode in on.

And then we'll post it on space 4chan for shits and giggles.
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>>1059252
>>1059259
There is so many good options...
Kawai, Ingrid 0, Angelisse, Onna Kishi...
Lelouch twins
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>>1059369
Just got on and managed to catch a quest. Hey Brazil, it's California! Couldn't catch a live one in a while. Real life stuff.
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>>1059305
"I'd rather try to pay Roarke for whatever information she accidently let slip in his custody. Assuming the paladins aren't deliberately kept ignorant by their lady.
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>>1059375
You know, I was thinking about you for quite some time now, as you began talking to me for a few threads and then... Silence.
I was somwhat worried that something had happened to you.

So, how are you, friend?
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>>1059385
Brazil, when you Weapon Mount Cross-Linked guns, do you buy a mount for every weapon, or one for all of them?
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>>1059385
I'm doing alright my man! Had to move down to my help my parents out and get a different job. Didn't mean to worry ya.
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>>1059388
Mount? like in "weapon mount that cost 2cp"?
One for each weapon, if they aren't mated.
Why don't you just mate them?
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>>1059400
Cuz that's something I haven't learned yet. I'll get to it now, I guess.
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>>1059393
Nah, thats okay, I'm not your mom or anything, I just live on a dangerous city and tend to get a little paranoid when someone just dissapears.

So, what did you think of the last threads? And do you want to get in the tourney? This is the last thread to do it man.
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>>1059406
Hahahaha, thats okay anon, and it isn't really hard to learn.
In short, you add the cp cost of both weapons, and them divides it by 1.33 to find its new space cost, but if one of them gets destroyed... Both of them are gone.
And if a crit destroys their mount... Both them are gone too.
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>>1059418
So could I mate 4 different cannons together?
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>>1059409
It's all good. Lived in some semi-hairy places. The last threads were dope! I enjoyed the squilageddon immensely. Sadly I won't be able to get in on the tourney. Don't have any of the stuff on my phone and I'm definitely not savy on the rules enough.
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>>1059424
Yes, you can.

>>1059445
That didn't stopped Inari-senpai.
I can send you links to the books, and could help you into getting the numbers right... What do you think?
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>>1059463
The world will never be the same.

If I understand cross-linking, I would only need 6 CP to cross link all the guns?
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>>1059474
Yes...
I'm having that feeling of having created a monster... AGAIN.
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>>1059463
I have the books on my laptop. Just gotta get back. Gonna be out for a couple hours.
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>>1059483
In a way...

Do you think 4 cross linked, 8 K guns with AP ammo would be useful?
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>>1059172
Pretty sure two of Sam's kids were going to be male and female Lelouch twins.
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>>1059523
>There are only two Wels-classes, plus the Mekong-class Iulia Maesa, in the Solar System, even putting those in one place is wasteful

Who here wants to steal a Battleship?
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"Big angry Paladin surrounded by soldiers at Ulhar, its name doesn't really matter." Captain Clearwater grumbles.


"No, but the fact that he's rumored to be completely psychotic doesn't exactly make him helpful. I honestly wonder how he's managed to hold out successfully so far, but I suspect he's receiving outside help. It would be helpful if we knew more than the names of the mecha themselves, aside from those we've encountered directly we have no idea who the pilots are, what they're like, what their weaknesses are, or even if the number of Paladin-style mecha is truly limited to twelve. I've done my best to make inquiries, but ever since two of their number were shot down the remaining ten have been remarkably cagey.” The Colonel's PC beeps, and he frowns, digging it out of his pocket.

"I don't think Starwind has any intention of selling his Paladin." Garret remarks.

"'I don't think Starwind has any intention of selling his Paladin, SIR.'" Colonel Luxol corrects him, "Now why do YOU think so?" He doesn't sound as if he's disagreeing.

"Because the last time he handed a woman over for credits, he took her back. The man is taking over most of the Belt, I think it would be a blow to his pride to play fair." Garret rolls his eyes, "Sir."

The Colonel chuckles, "That's right, you scamp. Well, if he sells her to the Martians, I'm sure they'll protect him, and an alliance with them will keep Avalon out of the Belt. If he sells her to us, we'll protect him, and an alliance with us will keep Avalon out of the Belt. If he sells her to neither of us...then the senate might very well finally authorize a military strike on Auditorium. That would create a longstanding problem for us, but at least most Belt pirates are now under Starwind's banner, gathered in one place where a precision strike can behead the serpent entirely. I rather hope that doesn't happen. Starwind is much more useful alive than dead, for now."

You glance sidelong at Irina, and notice her eyes narrow just a fraction. Estranged or no, a sibling is a sibling.

"Couldn't we just buy the information, sir?" You ask tentatively.

"Perhaps, Lieutenant, perhaps. The Belt isn't our immediate concern, though. Never make a battle plan without a current map of the terrain." The Colonel smiles.

"Sir." Irina speaks through gritted teeth, "Wouldn't there be a public relations backlash if we wipe out the thousands of innocent civilians living on Auditorium?"

"Of course." The Colonel crosses his arms, "But the General doesn't much seem to care, she's been pushing for a military strike with multiple Wels-class battleships for months, blocked thanks to the Chairman's own influence. If she secures permission to attack from the Senate, it would be a disastrous blow to father's authority, and a disaster for the war effort. There are only two Wels-classes, plus the Mekong-class Iulia Maesa, in the Solar System, and even putting those in one place, at Auditorium is wasteful."

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Captcha is the king of cockblocking, especially when I had to go back and fix a grammatical error. The Colonel is saying he's sure there would be a PR backlash and I fixed it to reflect that.
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>>1059537
I... dunno. That might draw simply too much attention.
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>>1059504
>At least 17.6 tons of weapons.
Anon... It would be certanly useful, but very heavy and probably expensive too.
>>1059509
This was a somewhat popular option in the last time we disscussed it.. I don't remember who suggested it first, but I was okay with it and I think that I remember a few more anons backing this...
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>>1059509

I...don't remember that. Fair warning, I really wasn't planning on having fifteen-odd Starwind kids exist at the Gen 2 point, and Dio is confirmed even at the expense of Kawai. Sorry, Kawai, blame the fate that made you come from a manga about butt-fighting and forced you to compete with an amazing vampire.

>>1059537

Do you want to fight Colonel Stern or the Praetorian Guard for their Wels-classes?
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Captcha cockblocked me for over half an hour, goddamnit.
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>>1059563
>Do you want to fight Colonel Stern or the Praetorian Guard for their Wels-classes?

I was thinking we'd steal the Iulia Maesa actually.
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>>1059571
Look Wong, use legacy captchas. Go to settings, then quotes and replying and click on that. You do that, and you get the text ones.
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>>1059571
Well you can just buy a 4chan Pass@ for the low low price of $19.99 per year and support this site and its owner
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>>1059556
>At least 17.6 Tons
That's just the guns and missiles (well, 17.5, anyway.) I still need to make the chin mounted anti missile gun and figure out how the legs turning into the wings would work in Mekton. I'm just cutting out the humanoid form for now.
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>>1059563
well...
the guard would be easy, but the christmas cake would get sad so no
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>>1059541
>>1059537
>There are only two Wels-classes, plus the Mekong-class Iulia Maesa, in the Solar System, even putting those in one place is wasteful
Good game boys, we won.
I call dibs on the Mekong class and the throne of japan in the name of Oda Yoritomo.
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>>1059585
I did that back when moot still ran this site. Made running a quest much easier.
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>>1059571
What sort of captcha are you using man?
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>>1059583

No. There's no Settings option and if there's some stupid complicated method I have to use I'd rather just go with the picture ones because text captchas can randomly decide not to load either.
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>>1059592
No BR, that is bad. Do not try to draw in more Wels. Even those three will make things incredibly costly and draw in the ire of every wels ship the senate can throw. We survive due to us not going full stupid and getting Alpha Striked.
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>>1059606
Didnt we work out that we only have enough mechs to equal what 2 wels can carry anyway? And thats just numbers, never mind their power.
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>>1059603
Top right.
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>>1059586
>17.5 including missiles
That can't be right if you're using projectile weapons.
Thats 16tons for the 4 weapons.
Then, assuming that you buy 10AP ammo for each of them, thats another 1.6 tons.
And I'm not even taking in consideration the possible reloads.
>>1059591
>>1059580
>>1059563
Praetorian would be relatively easy because of out numerical advantage on them... but it would get Cake-chan sad, so its a big no-no.

Stern is OP, but we may be able to win against him in a duel... And if not... We aren't Avalon and could just outnumber him with SOUL level mechs.

>>1059606
>Implying that there would be a senate after this.
Say hello to Roarke Starwind, the new Emperor of the belt and the Jovians colonies.
And then the ex-UJCIDF becomes the new pirates
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>>1059645
>numerical advantage

The Praetorian Guard protects the planet of Jupiter itself and the Chairman. You wouldn't just be fighting a dozen escorts, but the main planetary defense fleet of Jupiter itself. General Hatsheput being upset is the least of your worries.

I have to scold you here. You do not in any sense outnumber the UJCIDF, and are planning an extremely foolish thing that I am strongly recommending against.
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>>1059563
>No Kawai
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
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>>1059645
But they outnumber us and on average their mechs are much better than ours.
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>>1059645
I hadn't done the ammo yet. And now that I have, I figured 5 shots each would be good since you wouldn't want to shoot small things with it and each successful shot would do 12 K of damage to Mega Heavy Armor since they're all linked (plus I gave them 200% range and I hate ammo so I rounded the cost of each shot to .5 and the spaces/kills to .2) even if it's never going to be used.
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>>1059645
Attacking stern for his ship would piss off clemmy and sam. He's also one of the better guys to keep active since he likes us. If we want a Wels we would have to wait for Fairchild to fuck up.. which would likely cost her the capital ship. Seriously man, this is a stupid idea from any sense because the sheer downsides are not worth the loot.
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>>1059682
Stern could likely also solo half our fleet, including our aces.
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>>1059669
i thought it was like... only a few dozen people?
also you mean we don't outnumber them YET
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>>1059669
Well... I forgot about the rest of the army just in front of the forty or so Elite-trained Pumpkinseed II users...
Crap.

>>1059674
>>1059682
You're right, I give up on the "Zerg rush Jupiter" plan.
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Just to be absolutely clear, I never mentioned the number of Channel-class Heavy Cruisers, Pangassius-class Cruisers, or other esoteric ships, along with mecha and troops not stationed on a ship but rather assigned as Colony Defense Forces or infantry.
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>>1059687
Dude they have the production capabilities of multiple planets while we have a big leisure center with some guns bolted on and a hollowed out asteroid.
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>>1059697
No one ever said BR was a smart man.
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>>1059687
No, I don't think we could out number jove on a war footing. The belt isn't a population hub and the moment we do that stupid shit, we are facing up against THREE different fronts. In terms of numbers, manufacturing power, and just general power, we'd be in trouble. Remember that giant fleet at Mars? Want it to come at us?
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>>1059697
we will have the belt, earth, luna, and every thing else to the sun before we begin to empire build
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>>1059697
>Hollowed out asteroid
You can do quite a lot with those if neo-zeon is anything to go by, not that it would help us i this situation unless we somehow rammed it into avalon
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>>1059691
I want to be clear, I do not support trying to take a Wels. Or any other such super ships. It's a bad idea, yo.

MAYBE if they attack us with one, we can hijack it.
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Look we'll never ever outnumber any of the the planets in Sol. The only way we're going to keep our independence is to make Military service mandatory, train all of our crews to at least B level, and make sure we have the best mechs out of all the factions.
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>>1059725
A level
then i will agree to this plan
they must be A level
they will keep with the branigan plan. the walls of flesh
we will have quality like they cant believe
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>>1059725
I mean, you could get yourself acknowledged as an independent system and have the backing of a powerful ally or two and then people would leave you the hell alone.

Especially with the generally uncared for populations you can foster a very "us versus them" mentality so then you can have it so that if someone declares war on us they do end up pissing off the entire population, which makes it really fucking complicated to manage both in war, and after war during peacekeeping. Simply making the effort to retake the belt untenable and cost far more than it would be immediately worth.

Also likely sparking an entirely new wave of pirates soon after shit gets settled. It's just bad news. There is power in the common man agreeing something is shit.
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>>1059739
Relying on biggest stronger allies is a great way to make your kingdom a vassal kingdom in all but name. And besides alliances don't last forever and plenty end after the ruling body gets replaced.
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>>1059744
It's a temporary measure to enforce an identity on the population as a whole. The allies are a short-term solution. Making people actually independent is the goal.

Alliances can also become very stable if you can provide luxury or strategically valuable resources. When you sell to military contractors at a nice discount you can worm your way into keeping their armies running. That can very heavily dissuade any ideas of throwing your allies under the bus or attacking them yourself. Even if you don't like the guy the previous ruler did.

Violence doesn't always have to be the best solution. Quickest, sure, but not usually optimal.
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“Sir, can you stop trying to change the subject? I know it's unpleasant, and I know I'm not technically a soldier, so maybe you think I can't handle it and that you should go easy on me, but I know that I was the overseer for the S-Squilla's construction and that I'm going to be held responsible for this.” Irina's voice is tense and angry. “And for the record, sir, talking about cracking a colony and killing thousands of people as if it's just an inconvenience because you have to reallocate resources to the Solar System isn't the way to calm someone down. It's monstrous.”

“It is, isn't it?” Trevor Luxol smiles sadly, “War is a monstrous thing. Fortunately, your feelings are popular among the Jovian people. Punishing an individual pirate band is one thing, but even if they bear allegiance to Red Siren, many of her colony's people simply aren't real pirates and slaughtering them would be a vile act. Even those without mercy or pity know that their careers would be tainted by it. Now to correct your misconceptions, I'm not taking anything easy on you. I've followed this project very closely, and read your reports. If Bahamutcorp attempts to shift the blame onto you, rather than on whoever actually designed the S-Squilla, I will throw my full weight and authority against them. In the worst case, if they fire you I will personally hire you as an independent military contractor and tell them to chew stones. Smart corporations do not offend the client that makes their existence viable during a time of war. Please, stop glaring, it's rather a frightening expression. Dignity and grace are what separates us from other animals.”

Irina just scowls harder.

“Please, Ms. Gaunt, you have a lovely face and that expression will give you wrinkles.” The Colonel protests, “You're doing exactly what the Lieutenant told Ensign Biggs not to do, you're blaming yourself. Let me guess, you're convinced that somehow you'll be punished, so you're hoping for your comeuppance now rather than later, when you're not prepared for it? Too bad. You did exactly as you were ordered, to the letter, despite your strenuous objections and personal gripes. None of this is your fault.”

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>>1059744
The issue is that any big movement we have planned will take time. With no allies we will simply have no time to properly fortify our position. It'd likely take months to train up some of our crews and that same ammount of time for us to have our 140 cp machines working. The only thing stopping Fairchild is the fact we are useful and the moment the Senate oks her when she already has half of it on her side, is the moment shits fucked. We also need legitimacy for our claim, which an ally can provide. It is incredibly hard to start a country off independant and stay that way. Especially on our own and right next door to a super power on a war footing.
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Irina scowls slightly less.

“I'd still love you even if you had wrinkles, but he's right.” You point out to her.

She scowls at you, too, but it gradually fades away. She sighs and gives you a wan smile, “I don't deserve you.”

“For once, you're wrong.” You tell her.

“Adorable.” The Colonel comments, frowning down at his PC, “Gentlemen, and lady, I'm afraid I just received some rather troubling news. Count Ford's forces have moved north.”

“How many?” Captain Clearwater asks, frowning, “Surely, with four ships we should be able to send some kind of support.”

“All of them. They've left Ulhar undefended and advanced in waves up the peninsula. Fortunately, Major Warsaw was able to get a message to me, but I fear that he has already perished or is even now facing the Gerin. He says that the Avalonians and the rebels are practically suicidal, driving north as if they have all gone mad. Wave after wave struck the defensive lines at Dunwich until they were overrun, and the Gerin itself burned the city to ash.” You've seen enough maps of the planet to know what he's about to say before he says it, “There are a number of smaller towns and settlements between Ford's army and us, but we are the next defended city along his route. It's only a matter of days before he arrives, if he continues to drive his troops at this pace, and we cannot count on the locals to winnow his numbers further.”

>[What say?]
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>>1059725
> Military service mandatory
I don't think that this is exactly necessary, because of the absurd amont of people who already want to join us and the fact that there isn't much else to do in the belt that pays as well as being a pirate, and that siding with Roarke and wearing your own shades and leather coat has an incredible glamour associated with it.
Forcing people to do it would probably just make the few that ressent us to go even louder and denounce us as "opressors"... Instead focusing on propaganda would get much better results on the long run.
And don't worry, the war mentality of the belt always existed and will persist for much time, so there will always be a great feed of recruits for many years more to come...
>train all of our crews to at least B level
I agree, this is vital, even if very hard to maintain.
>make sure we have the best mechs out of all the factions.
We can't have plenty of diversity and surprise shenanigans up our sleeve because of our production style... But we aren't on SSL levels yet and it will probably take decades to just get near their production levels.
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>>1059778
So it's a case of an all out do or die situation. Is there any defensive positions we can take? Sturdy up some defenses, have fall back spots, use traps and terrain to slow or take some out? We have mantas so that can help with mobility, and there are scimitars for scouting.
As an aside, the Zann damn is to the South of us, right?
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>>1059783

Alternately, whatever name the eventual Kestrel state has might be like Germany, initially just Prussia and a bunch of smaller, dismissable states that gattai into a powerhouse.
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>>1059778
It seems Simon made a bit of an impression. We'd better get some sleep. Nothing worse than heading into a fight exhausted. Or hungry, now that I mention it.
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>>1059804

I'm pretty sure it is. It's possible I'm wrong, but I'm confident that it was to the south.
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>>1059804
blow the damn?
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>>1059778
>Is there any real need for waiting? I doubt that stay here and wait for them is going to give us any real advantage against their army... Of how many mechs and ships are we speaking of, Sir? If we have any chance at winning, I don't see any other option than starting making preparations for battle...

We always choose the manly way of doing this... Are you guys going to wait behind fortifications while Ford Blitzkrieg the small focus of resistance on his path?
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>>1059778
I'd say we need to warn the towns between the Avalonians and the city we're in to evacuate. They probably wouldn't burn them down, but they might.

>>1059807
So it suddenly comes to power, loses a huge war, gets really fucked up for a while and does some horrendous things, and then spends the rest of its existence apologizing for it's "edgy teen years"?

Better than going the Japan route and pretending their crimes never happened, at least.

Also, there's no law against shooting Ship scale weapons in atmosphere, right?
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>>1059816
Well considering this place has big fuck you defensive guns waiting here is probably the best idea.
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>>1059813
Then I am thinking water trap. Bettas might be capable of doing that and thats where Hector and the others are. Them joining up or serving as a resupply point would be bad. Likewise we can use it as a defensive spot/supply point.
>>1059816
BR, listen very carefully what I am going to say. This guy is very likely one of the worst people you face on a open field. We do this, we do this smart.
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>>1059807
You know what, Wong...?
It would be cool if you could give us more information about the imediate surroundings of Roarke colonies, like the nearer colonies to Psyche, Auditorium and Solomons 2-4, any locations of notice in the belt, or any surviving pirate crews that we know of....
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>>1059819

No, that's actually one of the reasons why Innsmouth is a "fortified town", because besides its walls it has the Cicero, which has the equivalent of siege weapons (main batteries) and a plethora of anti-air and anti-infantry guns in the form of its Deluxe CIWS.
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>>1059834
Alright, I guess the guns go by anime rules and don't make shockwaves when they're fired then. That's good, warcrimes are bad.
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>>1059821
>>1059822

From what Wong said last time we were attacked by a Paladin, they aren't this much powerful, and if they can't solo a Paladin, they aren't going to do much better against a entire army.

Not that they are useless... You know what, I'm sorry, I got emotional with all the "burning cities" part and don't want to let Amos becomes the type of guy that lets hundreds die for a arguably smal tatical advantage....

Also, we don't know about what is happening with Hector right now... And if he and Ford don't see eye to eye, we may be able to get something from him... Garret could at least try to see if the Kitty-Kongs know of something, because this is the type of thing that won't be suspicious to ask them because his own life may be in line.
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>>1059834
Hmmm.. how water proof is our mechs? Because I got an idea. Using something to keep us safe from the sudden drain, we have some mechs waiting behind the dam underwater. Blast the dam, assault them with water, assault them from multiple angles with a multi prong attack. A max luck CWIS would tear through the enemy forces.
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>>1059855
>don't want to let Amos becomes the type of guy that lets hundreds die for a arguably smal tatical advantage....

He's a soldier. He doesn't exactly have the choice of being selfish like a pirate would. Can't save everyone, but he can help to save those who matter by letting others die, even himself. This is war now.
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>>1059783
Oh yes the absurd amount of hundreds of people. You're right they'll do just fine against planets that number in the BILLIONS. And forced military service is completely common for nations since forever
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>>1059855
The issue is that if we do this blindly we will lose everything in a sea of fire. This is someone who seems to have perfected the blaze and raze tactic and us panicking is what he WANTS us to do. Likewise, these are very likely suicidal followers. Ackbars will be plenty so indirect ambushes, traps, and blindsiding him will work. Once we do so, Gerin of the Red Shield will be a much easier person to face.
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>>1059857
They can detect mechs underwater, so the surprise element doesn't work.
And the Knights could dodge the shockwave of water by jumping into it from 200m up in the air... They could still be carried by the force of the water though, but what would protect our mechs from suffering the same fate?Weights?But then how can we move?
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>>1059855
You realize your Keith right? You have completely unreasonable expectations and understand nothing about war and diplomacy. You sit back and cry when anything gets hurts and never want to do anything that might hurt somebody because "Oh no their people too and they have to be good inside". You're the type of person who goes to talk to the enemy to talk them into not fighting and get killed immediately.
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>>1059885
They do not seem to have asp systems so unless they pay attention they won't see us. Likewise, we would be on the other side of a dam wall that would normally be under ally rule. Weights can be dropped and detached so that IS possible and the sudden shock and nature of such an attack would catch them off guard. Not only that, there are all the non knight units and the knights are not strong enough to sustain flight. With the chucnks of wall from the dam, the sheer water pressure, their own men, and being blind sided by a assumed ally position, it would have the potential for major damage.
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>>1059880
Fighting people is one thing.
Letting hundreds or thousands of innocent people be Blitzkrieg for one stationary CIWS array seems just plain wrong for so little gain.

And about military service... Not all of them do it, and it can be used, and alredy is used IRL, for creating a discourse of "THOSE OPRESSORS ARE SENDING OUR CHILDREN TO DIE IN THEIR NAME AS MEAT SHIELDS".

And I may be mistaken, but I don't remember th UJCIDF doing it and they may use this as propaganda material against us.

But this heavily depends on the mindset of the belt population, so I may be just wrong on how this could unfold.
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>>1059778
Give the order to have the citizens in the towns evacuate to this city and hunker down in preparation so we're ready when they get here.
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>>1059895
Also? Land mines. Set up tons of land mines. Our missile weapon is desined to make land mines. Let's make land mines, and all sorts of shit. Give the Kitty Kong a taste of their own medicine!
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>>1059887
damn man thats a bit to far don't you think?
brazil isn't as bad as keith man calm your self
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>>1059902
He is, do you read his choices and what he posts? Last night he was getting weepy eyed over a mech. He always trusts almost everyone and constantly shows he understands nothing of tactics and logistics.
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>>1059887
>I go full beserker "LETS BOMB THEM WITH OUR SHIPS WHILE ZERG RUSHING WITH OUR MECHS!"
>Thunder accuses me of being a pacifist and trying to talk with the enemy.
I don't even...
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>>1059907
I mean, if you want to get technical the mech IS sentient. Or realistically fake enough it doesn't matter.
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>>1059912
Your making a hugely costly attack on an enemy we know nothing about so they don't attack a few villages and puts us and everyone with us out in an open field against an ace level mech instead of holding a defensive position where we have the advantage

>>1059913
Its no more setient than an AI. It feeds off the pilots emotions and thoughts and relates them back to "itself"
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>>1059907
Then help me draft up some plans. Right now we should have the edge in mobility with some mantas. A few high altitude bombing strafing runs, Keith sniping targets of interest, and then falling back. Don't allow them to get a bead and be ready to assist. Wear down their supplies. Wear down their morale. Wear down their very existance with everything we have, then be ready for the final confrontation at either the Dam or the city.
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>>1059880
Like Switzerland. Everyone likes Switzerland.
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>>1059907
>>1059912
my peeps it's alright!
the dame just wants to save some lives!
by zerg rushing them.
sadly there the zerg right now dame we have to bunker down not the other way around
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>>1059915
BR still does have a point. You are prone to exclusive pursuit of violence. Or fucking.

Think, if you two fused you would have the ideal human being.

Pffffffft you fuckin fags, never change
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>>1059895
Hm....
So, a three side attack? One team inside the dam, mines on the way between them and the enemy, and other two hordes of mech to flank them?

Okay... You're begining to convince me on this...

But how do you plan on taking the Avalonians out of the place?
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>>1059915
I'm pretty sure it copies the pilot's thoughts and such and uses that as programming, Wong never gave the distinction between what you said and what I think. But even if I'm wrong and want to get technical again, a complex enough AI would also be sentient.
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>>1059887
>You're the type of person who goes to talk to the enemy to talk them into not fighting and get killed immediately.
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>>1059927
By being a soul team consisting of the damn Delphinus, 3 Bettas, big arm morgan, and the Pixy? With our verniers in, along with the thrusters/verniers for the Squilia, we should be good if they double time it.
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>>1059932
He did say that even the paladins have different opinions. Maria thinks they are like big dogs and kirito thinks thats bullshit.
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>>1059917
Pretty much, if we blew up the damn would it flood the surrounding area? If it does that could help us during the fight.

>>1059923
Because I follow the idea that if you let an enemy live you give them time to plan to attack you or someone you care about again and that time it might be successful. The paramount idea is to keep the people you care about alive as much as you can. The fucking is just because thats Roarke's character and when rping you have to stay in character.

>>1059932
Problem is we're getting into the idea of does a robot have a soul which is a much longer tougher debate. Short answer no they don't, long answer they could but we should look out for our own first
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>>1059927
napalm and apple pie
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>>1059944
That is what was mentioned. It'd flood the forests and flush them out. Hell, them being in the forest would make it worst due to debris.
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>>1059950
Good than send out our fastest squads to harry them on the way picking out whatever enemies we can. Try and push them into the forest after the harassers and then blow the damn
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>>1059943
I'm of the opinion that both are wrong, and that its actions are what you should judge.

>>1059944
Well yeah people are more important, I'm just pointing out it can be sentient. Well, there's probably no way to tell if it is sentient or not, so its intrinsic value is what we should be judging.

So basically it keeps Simon alive, and that's why it's important.
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>>1059944
>Because I follow the idea that if you let an enemy live you give them time to plan to attack you or someone you care about again and that time it might be successful.

This depends entirely on the person in question. Sometimes people are just doing their job. Some people are fanatics. Some people genuinely hate you. Some people just don't want to fucking be there.

There is no right answer 100% of the time, even if your approach is generally safer doesn't mean it is a superior course of action. If we killed every enemy we faced, Oda would be dead. Sam's brother would be dead. Moe would be dead. They were all enemies, so by your logic we should have at the time killed them at the first opportunity.

There is a time for talking. BR often gets it wrong as to when that time is, but he is correct in thinking that talking is a viable course of action even with your enemy. It just again, depends on the enemy.
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>>1059936
Mikael is fuckin ruthless man
is this after Biscuit got killed by those guy's commander chick?
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>>1059961
I think so but it might be before
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>>1059968
i really need to catch up on that season
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>>1059939
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>>1059950
Okay, I'm okay with the dam plan, seems like a better Idea of trying to keep a Paladin at bay with just CIWS.

Also, depending on their speed we maybe should be able to send a scout team to evacuate people from some town in the way and hiding until they get close enough to take a peak at before riding away at full speed... but that is tottaly diferent plan.

About the Avalonian forces at the dam... garret has means of communicating to them and they will probably know when we come for them anyway, so we maybe could try to see what we can know from them before storming their place.

In fact, I doubt that they have any real chance against us at this point... Maybe we could even intimidate them to surrender... Or to betray Ford, as Hector seems like the type to do it in name of "muh honor" as he already said some things in that sense before.
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>>1059973
we must show him grannys apple pie
that will obviously bring him to our side
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>>1059960
I agree that it doesn't work 100% and I don't think any idea works 100% of the time, and I didn't vote to kill Oda since we knew him as a friend. I didn't vote to kill Pierre because he's Sam's brother. And Moe surrendered so it was pointless to kill him. I know well enough not to kill certain people. But someone like Keith or Lacus who are Ace pilots and will be fighting our friends and allies and may kill them in battle regardless if they intend to or not. They still might kill someone we care about and since they are skilled and shit happens in a fight. As far as I'm concerned it would be best for us if they disappeared. But that would cause too much political fallout at this time. And as for people doing their job, their job is to take down our forces by any means possible most people are fighting to kill and holding back to only incapacitate only takes more time and you have to hold back making yourself weaker.
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>>1059973
All the people left with Hector are fanatics. They will more than likely suicide. You can't talk them down. It would be easier to talk Hector down using his men as bargaining chips but he still wouldn't go for it. He's moving with a purpose now, they are up to something and he's going all in.

And never underestimate the power of a numerically superior force just throwing shots downrange. If you fling enough shit at a wall some of it will stick.
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>>1059961
After
>>1059960
What do you think about trying to do it now? Do we have anything to lose by trying to talk with Hector...
Maybe we should just challenge him to a duel or something, Avalonians fall for that most of the time anyway...
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>>1059984
Supporting this plan, there's no way he'll be able to say no to the best apple pie in the universe.
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>>1059996
Quads pls
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>>1059961

After. It will never not bother me that she didn't just destroy the fucking railroad.
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>>1059987
I'm not talking about Ford's troops, Hector and his troops are in the dam, are they not? And even if this should fail, what diference would it make? We would still fight anyway.

>>1059999
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>>1059954
Keith on a manta could do that, but quickly taking the Damn first and prepping it should be priority if possible. Diverging their path with some obvious threats or sealing their path with mines or fires could work. Mobs are not the most intelligent so if we can divert some lead units, we have that chance.
>>1059973
Hector will likely want that rematch if he faces us. Depending on our luck and base stats, we could very well take him down. However, brute force diplomacy might be better considering he may leak information. That and we can take them by surprise with Bettas.
>>1059990
This is a race against the clock and the Dam requires it to be a sneak attack. That means they must not get any info out of the base.
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>>1060002
She wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed.
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>>1059999
I acknowledge your quads, but getting digits isn't that hard on this board
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>>1060008
The sad part is, compared to the Genius of the second season, I kinda miss her. She was at least slightly competent at her job. Their keith is a goddamn mess.
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>>1060002
Could we block his transmissions somehow?
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>>1060018
Eye makeup clearly effects your intelligence.
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>>1059986
So you spared every one of those people out of sentiment, even though it may come back to bite us in the ass one day. Even if the chance is infinitesimally small it is still there and they are still threats. Even if it is only accidental. You can't pick and choose when it goes against your philosophy.

Ideally everyone would sit the fuck down and chill but that won't happen. But I agree Jesus is a timebomb. He lacks any real self control and he is deep down a hypocrite and he will eventually just snap. Idealist fools usually die or break, safe assumption.

The average grunt using "any means possible" is still unlikely to put his life in undue risk. A random Jovian from a bumfuck colony who is fighting Roarke out in the belt is more likely to surrender than attempt to suicide one of his waifus or him simply because reputation and the guy has no reason to throw his life away when it likely won't succeed. Wanting to live is great incentive. Which is why allowing surrender is a great thing, when people think you aren't going to kill them they are less likely to go all out crazy survival mode.

Of course there are some people you never offer surrender because you know they'll try to exploit that. Like Mask.

I don't disagree with you exactly, I just don't fully agree either. You have a point.
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>>1060020
Don't think a single one of us has electronic warfare technology or jammers, so no. Need to make a machine for that.
>>1060023
It really does in the Orphans universe. I can't even blame McGillis for it, all his fuck ups are his own damn fault.
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>>1060027
I don't ask that people have to agree with me, just understand my point of view and that its not just
>lol kill everybody.
And I understand that my way of thinking does have issues and is open to hypocrisy, but I understand that it won't work every time so you have to follow your gut on who is very unlikely to betray you.
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>>1060003
The only benefit talking would have is to possibly unearth whatever their plan in. Which isn't likely if the guy isn't an idiot and monologues.

As it stands sallying forth to confront Ford early has no real tangible benefit, however, approaching the dam might force them to try and close in from the rear on our troops inbound, which means we could do the same to them and then crush them between two sides.

The problem is we don't know why they are doing this, it could be to either keep us entrenched or to try to lure us out.
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>>1060034
>4 Ships full of military equipment and personel
>Nobody knows how to cut the comms of their enemies
>"Oh crap, we need to make a machine for that!"
And this is exactly why the Iron kestrels are better
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>>1060048
portable Electronic Warfare equipment is really hard to get, especially one that can keep up to date with current technology. Likewise, bringing a ship with us to the dam will alert any scout watching for enemies and reinforcements.
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>>1060048
Pretty sure the Iron Kestrels also do not know how to do those things.
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>>1060040
To be fair, you do make a lot of "REEEE GAS THEM" sentiment and are almost constantly talking about killing just about everyone we come across. I get where you're coming from, it's just easy to pick apart.

I still say we should have killed Maria the moment we hit her powerplant. Should have Coup de graced her. She's just more dangerous than she's worth.
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>>1060045
I thought it was pretty obvious they somehow got a communication from the Squillia and are coming to try and get it?

Which is really bad because if the Greenmen programmed a reset or whatever the Duke did to Ceasar's girlfriend (why can I not remember her name? was it Naomi?) they no doubt did the same thing for Paladin mechs and Amos and Co have no way of knowing about that. So Hector could just broadcast a signal and the Squillia's going to do whatever he says. Let's hope he doesn't have the ability to.
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>>1060057
Still sticking by the whole thing causing the earthquake.
Also, did we weird Mr.Wong out with our strategy talk? I hope that is not the case.
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>>1060056
Thats my hatred for Traitors and Xenos and super pro humanity. But thats an entirely different story


Out of curiosity do we have any anons here who studied military tactics or politics?
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>>1060062
Shoot the bad guys before they shoot you?
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>>1060045
Ford will take days to reach the dam, and in the mean time it'll be too late for them, the only thing that keep those honored avalonians hiding there is the belief that we don't know where they are and won't attack them soon because of that.
So we can keep our mouths shut about that and make Garret have a call to one of the Kitty-Kongs and cry about burning cities and such, and then ask to speak to Hector "because he was so amicable last time that I can't believe that he could kill all those innocent people like that" or something, and then proceed to talk to him about this.
Other option would be to try to sneak attack them and hope that their traps are turned off or something.
...Or we could go to his front door and threathen him to "surrender or die" with full backup because they won't have time to run when the ship comes from nowhere.
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“How many of them?” That's your immediate question.

“Approximately five hundred mecha, after the losses they incurred at Dunwich. The Avalonians divided their forces when they came here, landed their Knights...including those they carried, pilotless, in the cargo bays of their ships for use by the Qu'liri rebels...and took off again to maintain overwatch over the southern hemisphere. With the arrival of the Iulia Maesa and General Oman's fleet reaching this sector, we were able to destroy their space-bound ships, but at the very least Count Ford's battleship is on the move with them, as it did not return to space, and its cannons are capable of wreaking incredible devastation on a city. I would assume their infantry forces are substantial despite lacking mecha. The general thinking was that we could use our space advantage to land troops behind Ford's positions and advance from Dunwich to trap him between the hammer and the anvil, while for his part he would wait for the inevitable Avalonian reinforcements, but that's all shot now. I can see why advancing would be a worthwhile strategy, it certainly fits Avalonian thinking, but strategically speaking not everything adds up, if we sell our lives as the forces at Dunwich did to slow him down that should give our allies time to reinforce Celephais and create an army capable of destroying his. It would be bloody and costly and the toll on the civilians would be staggering, but we would win. What concerns me is this earthquake and the extreme reaction the S-Squilla had to awakening. Geologically, there should not be earthquakes in this region, we're far from any continental shelves or faultlines. Volcanic activity, too, seems unlikely. It's quite curious.”

“So they have numbers, but if they're using Knights and infantry, they'll be slowed down even if they have a cruising battleship. Either Count Ford will be limited by the speed of his slowest troops, or he'll be forced to divide his forces, fill his battleship to maximum capacity, and use that as an advance force. Between our Martian flyers and our Mantas, we have a strong mobility edge. Sir, I would recommend that we evacuate the city, first, and send the civilians overland to Celephais while it's still safe to do so. As it stands, four cruisers make for a powerful firewall against incoming mecha but an Avalonian battleship could do significant damage to them and possibly destroy the city on its own. We'll use hit-and-run attacks to slow him down, and take control of the Great Zann Dam, which we believe to currently be held by local insurgents, before Count Ford arrives. The terrain makes the dam a natural chokepoint, it's extremely difficult to bypass unless your mecha are capable of sustained flight, and getting massed infantry through there is a strategist's worst nightmare.” You begin.

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>>1060063
But if you kill your enemies they win
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>>1060057
It's a possibility, but they might have another weapon in the dam as well. It could be that they were hoping the Squilla waking up would cause more damage than it did, or that they would successfully lead it out and capture it/turn it. We don't know -for sure- what they are getting at. Maybe they are friends of tunnelbro from AEQ and are trying to dig under Innsmouth right now. Maybe they are just trying to buy time to keep us here why they take the slow process of powering up whatever big thing they have at the dam is, which maybe the Squilla could have woken up very quickly.

I am not a clever man, so I don't want to come to hasty conclusions.
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>>1060062
I'm a hobbyist on both fronts so no real fool proof shit. The whole 'super robots and greenman bullshit' makes conventional strategy difficult.
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>>1060067
Damn, forgot. How was I such a fool?

Kill yourself before the enemy can kill you?
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“On top of that, if we can, I'd like to lay some kind of bombs at certain key points. Bridges, in particular, but also passes through the hills and certain forested areas. Anywhere they can forage for food, we burn it. Wear down their energy, their numbers, their morale. Make them stop thinking clearly, make them stumble. We take the dam, we fortify it with our ships, but we don't use the dam itself as a base. If we plant bombs in the right places there, too, we can fool them into thinking we're using it as our castle, and once their forces are massed...” You trail off, seeing the smiles on Captain Clearwater's and Colonel Luxol's faces.

“Boom.” Garret summarizes, making a gesture like he's hitting a detonator, “The flood will wipe out their infantry and many of their mecha. Sure, we have a lot fewer than they do, but ours are much better in the air.”

“Indeed.” The Colonel notes. “I would suggest a double operation. One force planting bombs along Ford's route, bypassing the dam, while the other seizes the dam from the insurgents. Are the rebels at the dam in contact with Count Ford?”

“No.” Captain Clearwater says decisively. “For the most part, they used disaffected locals upset by military requisitions, curfews, and other wartime necessities, along with traitorous members of the local defense forces. These were anything but hardened killers, most of them seemed to think they were staging some kind of protest by taking over the Cicero. From what I gather, it was under the auspices of Duchess Maria Carnegie and her lieutenant Dame Elizabeth Wayland with the goal of kidnapping your little brother. They were supported by a popular knight by the name of Sir Hector Van Damme, who I gather was part of their space forces before he more or less deserted to rescue his beloved Elizabeth.” He sighs, “Call me a romantic, but I can't see him endorsing Ford's tactics, he seemed to value the lives of the Qu'liri quite highly. You could say that he's a purist when it comes to Avalon's ideals.”

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>>1060067
People die when they are killed?
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>>1060056
>more dangerous than she's worth

In hindsight, maybe. At the time, fuck no. The only chance the UJCIDF had at a live Paladin capture since the beginning of the War? You'd be crazy to throw that away. It just turned out that the Paladins are all crazy themselves.
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>>1060067
Ffffffucking Trudeau! That bastard pisses me off so damn much.
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>>1060074
Thats more like it anon, with that attitude you might just make Lieutenant.

>>1060070
Its still good to have people with that knowledge so that when we need it we have a base to work off of

>>1060087
And to think he got in because people wanted weed. And know they live in a country with no national culture.
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>>1060095
and still no weed
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>Lieutenant
Everyone knows COs are assholes.
Good thing I'm a asshole then.
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>>1060079
holy shit!
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>>1060095
Not even that. He was a legacy name and didn't attack anyone during the election. The old like the trudeau name, the young ladies liked him young, and his heavy left policies struck well with the big cities like Toronto and Vancouver. THEN THE BASTARD SOLD ALL OUR FUCKING GOLD. OUR MONOPOLY MONEY IS AS USEFUL AS ACTUAL MONOPOLY MONEY!
As for culture, just stay away from Toronto and vancover. Go to the maritimes and more countryish places.
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>>1060127
Wait have you not heard Trudeau say this? And the funniest part is he's not even a Trudeau.
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>>1060127
>Dutch-senpai outing himself.
What about Quebec? I almost ended up living there once when my dad got a job offer...
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>>1060127
My own country is only out of a recession itself but it warms my heart to know that other countries are managing fucking themselves up more than us.
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>>1060134
Quebec is...weird in a sense as they view themselves as separate from the rest of Canada
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You nod, “I think he said something about Ford, something disapproving. The Paladin might technically be his superior, but I don't believe they see eye-to-eye. Duchess Carnegie is a lot less extreme, and he still feigned comm trouble when she told him to inflict corporal punishment on the insurgent commander...who is a certified fanatic for Avalon. He has an upgraded version of a Knight, the Cavalier, approximately on par with a first-generation SOUL mech. Barring someone reinforcing them, I shouldn't think they have anything else in their arsenal but Knights, stolen Bluegills, and a few Terns.”

“You've always been a romantic, Matthias. As I said before, some things never change.” The Colonel smiles, “Let's assume that there are at least two Cavaliers, one for Sir Van Damme, one for Dame Wayland.” He fiddles with his PC, and projects another image onto the screen, “Is this the Cavalier, gentlemen?”

“N-not even close.” Simon shakes his head violently, looking at the smooth, orange and black thing displayed on the screen. It seems unarmed, and the bifocal head with its twin horns reminds you of a wasp.

“Absolutely not.” Garret agrees, “Although I sort of shot it in the face before we could get a good look at that.”

“Honestly, at first it looked a lot like the Black Ogre, which was probably intentional. Throw something like that at us and we'd naturally panic...although how they knew about Roarke Starwind is anyone's guess.” You admit.

“Because there might be traitors in our midst.” Irina says, frowning, “Or at least locals who pick up our talk and take the useful information to Avalon.”

“I heard about Martha Blume, Ms. Gaunt, your point is well taken. Could this, then, be Dame Wayland's Cavalier?”

Garret frowns, “From what I remember, she likes to sit back and shoot people up with it from a distance. If that's her, then where the fuck is her fucking sniper rifle? Ow! Trevor!” Garret yelps as Trevor sharply brings the edge of his hand down on the center of Garret's head.

“Language, Garret. You are a Luxol, remember?” The Colonel scolds him in a brotherly way, "Do you use such profanity all the time?"

"Yes." You and Simon say simultaneously.

Garret shoots you an utterly betrayed look.

"You're a good friend to me, Garret." You say unapologetically, "Blame this on the misfortune of your birth."

Simon nods, "U-um, it kind of looks too plain to be hers, too. Her Knight was really ornate."

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>>1060131
I had to deal with the whole race melting shit he tried to push. But this is a special fresh hell considering my family's history of delivering tanks to the front line in the war.
>>1060134
Everyone has their weakspot. Mine is those who are completely incompetant with money, people, and time. Trudeau is someone who threw away good will with other nations trying to stop a fire and then goes to hire untrained africans to do it for a few dollars a day.
Also, Quebec is for the Quebecois. If you do not speak quebec french, you will be looked down upon. Good poutine though.
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>>1060139
I honestly can't tell how bad things are here in the US, or if they're even limited to the US.
Have you seen all the pedophile acceptance people? They call themselves LGBTQP or whatever, it's fucking stupid. I agree that preventing a pedophile from being a pedophile by helping them before they act is a good idea, but you should in no way accept someone being a pedo.
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>>1060145
And everybody said the slippery slope argument was bullshit. How wrong they all were.
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>>1060142
>"Blame this on the misfortune of your birth."
I love you Wong. Entirely homo.
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>>1060146
I know, right? I thought the same thing when the first animal kin people showed up but realized the slippery slope was a think one fiction kin started popping their deformed heads up. It just got worse from there.
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>>1060145
You know, if dudes in prison fuck up pedophiles as much as they do and prove that even criminals have standards then you know it is not socially acceptable or forgivable to be a pedophile.

No shit though, the way pedos get treated in prison, fucking mint.
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>>1060145

Like him or hate him, Trump is 100% unapologetically American, believes in American culture, and wholeheartedly despises any and all forms of "postnationalism". So long as the Democrats keep doubling down on their rhetoric of "anyone who disagrees with me is Hitler" instead of playing along and tying to soften or debase his message, we're safe. The pedophile acceptance people only weaken progressivism because people are realizing that, no, slippery slopes are sometimes quite real and this shit is past the point where it needs to stop.
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>>1060146
I have always believed that weird shit stays behind closed doors and you never make a lifestyle about one aspect of yourself. Sexual, religious, what have you. I'm ok with being gay, but I really could care less for the rainbow shit and leather daddies. Can't just get an average dude who is willing to support one another these days.
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>>1060160
If a majority of Gays just acted like normal people I wouldn't have a big problem with them. But the gay lifestyle and culture itself is cancerous to society
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>>1060143
I'm sorry to hear this senpai, I think that everyone has shit to deal with in their countries this days, it just seems to be everywhere... And politicians here in general are so bad with everything that you never know for sure when they are doing it on purpose or because of severe autism.
And there is also all this people who thinks that our elected leaders are the most wise people around and should choose most of things for you because "the average citizen is too dumb to decide on what is better to himself"... Sometimes I feel like we would be better by being an empire again, because the medieval mindset never changed, the people in power just got worse...
Also, its way more easier to topple a monarchy than the actual govern... And some people are seriously theorizing abou that
Oh, and my parents speak french with that accent from Paris... Would it be okay?

>>1060145
>>1060146
>>1060153
>>1060157
>tfw you realize that you're not the only one to believe that the slippery slope is real.
Anons... If you had seen the things i've seen... I wouldn't blame you if you decided to go back to burning witches at stakes.
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>>1060160
I don't care about people being gay or bi, it doesn't affect me at all, but what I hate is how some think it makes them special (like a lot of people with religion, or gender, or race.)

Or the parades, I have never seen anything stupider in my entire life, everyone who planned and participated in any one of them should be considered legally braindead. Not only is marching down a street in your underwear waving around flags with dildos and anal plugs on them disgusting as hell, it's also directly counter productive to their goal of wanting acceptance. No sane person is going to accept someone who does that.
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>>1060190
I suppose I should specify, being straight doesn't make you special either. Nothing does, because almost nobody is.
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>>1060157

Hate him, nah. Fear what he could do with the power he wields, oh yes.

I'm hoping, dearly hoping, that he'll prove my fears wrong and do the job of president proudly, if not perfectly, but I'm also not holding my breath on that matter.

(His cabinet picks are really, really, not winning me over, save for the military guy. He seems like the guy from Avatar, the one they say you're supposed to hate but really he's just doing his damn job and doing it well.)

As for the, rather disgusting situation regarding those, pedophile acceptance folks, in that you have my whole hearted agreement.

What two or more consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home or domicile is their own business as far as I'm concerned, but a child has no business being involved in anything sexual.

They are not physically or mentally mature enough to even understand what sex is let alone make a willing choice in the matter.

Sex with a minor is rape pure and simple and if you condone that then you condone every woman that was forced in a back alley, every man that was debased as either a sick fetish or a power move, every teenager that was drugged or forced to marry way fucking too young.

And let me be perfectly fucking clear. I may be a damn liberal, but if some fucker comes near my niece and nephew with that pedophile acceptance crap then I'm going to show them what happens when a meat carving knife gets shoved up an anus. Repeatedly.
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>>1060171
I will agree with you there. I have no desire for the lifestyle or culture and simply just want to live with people peacefully and have a good family and watch the next generation grow strong, wise, and proud.
>>1060190
Aye, I will agree with you there. It's like those riots that BLM does. Whatever message they say gets drown out by this shit.
>>1060180
Less Autism, more simple greed and no long term planning. If they were autistic, they would probably do better since they'd be so damned focus on their job. Also, Paris French should be ok. Think they like the French French quite a bit.
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>>1060190
The parades had a purpose: demonstrate that they exist and that they are determined to keep existing.

They've kinda outlived that purpose by now.
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I think his choice for Vice President was a pretty good move, because if someone does manage to find some way of impeaching him they'll be making a guy who believes that electroshock therapy can cure gayness President.

I think there's a saying about replacing something bad with something worse, but I can't remember it.
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>>1060210
>"curing queers with amperes"

I'm fucking dying holy shit
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“You're all assho-OW!” Garret winces as Trevor gives him another chop.

“I may have been a bit preemptive, but I don't think there was going to be a 'sir' at the end of that sentence.” The Colonel remarks pleasantly.

“Do you make Laurence call you sir when you're fu-OW! Knock it off, bastard!” Garret makes a halfhearted swing at Trevor, who casually knocks his hand away, “Where is he, anyway?”

“Don't insult mother that way, and he's...not here.” The Colonel frowns, “It's a damned shame, but certain events have made us decide it would be wiser to avoid contact between Major Heim and Avalon...as well as between Major Heim and a certain Ensign I know to be somewhere on this planet if he didn't scuttle off with General Fairchild.” He sighs, “If we've reached the part of the conversation where you accuse me of sodomizing my second-in command...”

“Accuse? He was wearing a dress when I met him! I thought his name was Laura! He hit on me!” Garret protests.

“Take it as a compliment, we're a very cute family.” Colonel Luxol chuckles amiably, “Besides, that was an undercover operation and I needed a bodyguard with a quick draw who no one would suspect.”

“Hm, didn't you take a Laura as your date when we attended the Graduation Ball at the Academy? Remember, you were giving that speech and I came along because there was an open bar and impressionable young instructresses?” Captain Clearwater comments, rubbing his chin, “She was pretty.”

“Dark skin, light hair?” Garret questions, smirking.

“Mhm.” Captain Clearwater folds his arms and nods wisely, “Very elegant.”

Irina leers, snickering.

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>>1060216
My personal favorite.
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>>1060222
Great timing Wong
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>>1060222
Well at least Trevor has good taste in guys and sticks to one. LOOKING AT YOU FAIRCHILD.
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>>1060222
That is some next level fucking tucking if he can pull off a panty shot like that.

Finkle is Einhorn!
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>>1060193
>Pedophile acceptance
Why are you guys even discussing this? Are we back in Rome? Who is the new Ceasar?

Seriously though, has the world gone mad? Why do people think that sex with children is okay?

>>1060204
Nah, some of them really belives in some of the bad choices they take... The best example of this is how they keeping causing economic crisis again and again by doing the same things and expecting different outcomes.AGAIN. AND AGAIN. AND AGAIN.
I have a serious problem with it because one of that screw-ups from a few decades ago threw my mother's clan into almost poverty, and came back to haunt us and almost destroyed my family in the process just a few years ago...
If the nation burns and I stop appearing here I may have died trying to avenge my ancestors...
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>>1060236
He could just have a small dick.
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>>1060222

If Garret's brother's not hitting that like two ton truck then he's a fool and no mistake.

And he doesn't strike me as a fool...
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>>1060242
That's what I was thinking
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>>1060238
I'm beginning to believe you're a real life chuunibyou, fucking clans and what else, just seems unreal.
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>>1060242
But traps are always hung according to muh japoneese anniemay
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>>1060238
Your ancestors are also economically fucked up
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>People who are gay for Kamille just need to admit it and deal with it, he's easily one of the manlier gundam protags.
>Now here's Lauren as a canon trap
Sasuga Wong keep shilling for best girl
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>>1060210
>watt watt in the butt
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>>1060249
I can picture Oda hearing someone say something like that and straight up murdering them. It would be hilarious.
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>>1060249

Could it be that the Jovian traps have discovered the long lost quantum dick hiding technique?!
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>>1060247
Too large family with "tottaly not a power structure that is never mentioned but obvious to everybody"
Medieval large size.
...And my dad's clan is worse, they have literally more tha a hundred living relatives and are spread over many nations.
This thing is so complex that I could date someone from the clan and not even know it for months before someone ends pointing it out.
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>>1060258
I wish this picture said Repence.
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>>1060268
You can probably GIS up the original without the caption and then redo it.
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>>1060272
That's too much work (even if the meme's spicy.) I'll just wait until I find the picture without the caption.
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>>1060257

80s fashion is one hell of a thing.

>>1060247

Brazil is one hell of a thing.

>>1060268

Next time I play D&D I know who my Storm Cleric is going to be based on

>>1060265

Can confirm because I have a similar situation.
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>>1060254
A long time ago my ancestors had a factory that produced machines for other factories... But the had to pay some completely arbitrary taxes made up by the ruling party back on the day because they believe that they had to tax everyone who didn't have a politician in his pocket for making it easier to their allies... But some of the higher-ups screwed up baddly one time and sent the country into another recession... The backlashed made them back the factory owners into a wall and offer them a choice "Pay us to save your ass from out of being indebted to us for generations by giving the money that should go into paying your workers and suppliers, or starve away with them."... Head of the clan goes "muh honor" and tries to trick the guys by paying everyone whats is due to them and tranfering the Factory to a beggar from who the guys could take nothing... Plan mostly works and they get away in the middle of the political chaos... But then the guys who were directly robbing taxpayers money to pay for Dilma's re-electing campaign discovered the "tax debt" in old government archives and try to get money from us... People start fighting between themself about who should pay what... Civil war happens between them and I get put in the middle of this shit with people giving death threats to one another and trying to convince me to pick a side... It was one of the worse years of my life and I'm just happy that I got to drag my father alive out of that mess...
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>>1060265
Wait, how does clans work in Brazil? Is it one of those pseudo-hierachy-government thingies?
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>>1060262

Jovian traps have many powers.
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>>1060296
I meant the Portuguese
>>1060301
Probably much the same as everywhere else. My family used to own the most haunted castle in our country if you go back far enough.
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>>1060307
Wow, that legitimately made me feel bad.
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>>1060307
Just write a lewdbin Wong we all know you want too
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>>1060301
What? Who talked about clans? There is no Clan here, no sir! We are know that the nobility ended in 1889 when the "Republic of the Sword" got in power! It's impossible that the old clans and their descendants still remember their heritage, who would guard their origins and legends for over a hundred years!?
And that old families that rule big political dominions and controls the "free-market" with the help of the people in charge obviously got nothing to do with this!And in fact, they don't even exist!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA MAYBE I SHOULD GET ARRESTED TO JOKE ABOUT THAT!
The old nobles never died, some got changed for new pieces, some just disguised themselves, but there is always the ones in charge behind the curtains... Don't you doubt it
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>tfw people are descended from rich assholes or old war-fags and here I am inheriting a metal gear from my parentage

And yet every goddamn weapon surpasses it! Fuck!
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>>1060307
Oh yes they do
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>>1060326
You'd be from a pretty shitty clan if they didn't own a castle at some point here. There are castles all over the place.
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>>1060334
Living in a castle is one thing. Building them is another.

My mud hut is actually warmer and more sanitary, actually.
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It's inappropriate to laugh, but you get it, everyone's quite naturally a bit on edge right now, even the Colonel. As cool as he's being, he only just found out about Ford's northward march, and that's got to rattle even an experienced commander. He's in his twenties, so you guess he made Colonel out of sheer ability, and no matter how good you are it takes some age to acquire true unflappability.

“Instructresses isn't a word.” The Colonel informs the Captain, “We just call them 'teachers'.”

“Instructor has a male Latin root, maybe instructarix?” Simon suggests.

“Well, there were a lot, more like instructatrices.” Captain Clearwater nods wisely again, “Who was that girl with the black lipstick? I think she was with Intelligence. She was cute.”

“I think we've reached the point in the conversation where nothing further productive is going to be said.” Colonel Luxol says, rather stiffly, his expression somewhere between annoyed and on the verge of laughter, “For the record, I know who you're talking about, Matthias. I hate to disappoint you, but Miss Blanchett is getting married.”

“Aw, good for her!” Captain Clearwater has a big, genuine smile, “That's sweet, I bet he's a really nice guy.”

“By all accounts he's quite charismatic.” The Colonel replies drily, “Alright, we have at least enough time for one good night's sleep, giving me time to plan the details of this mission and finish the clean-up from the earthquake before I get some rest. Ms. Gaunt, can you repair the S-Squilla?”

“Can Amos shoot down Avalonians? It will be done before the end of the day, provided I'm allowed to commandeer as many people and as much resources as I want.” Irina smiles.

“Make it so.” The Colonel sighs, “Poor Innsmouth, I hate to move all of these people right after they've experienced so much tragedy. Lieutenant, walk with me, let's talk privately for a bit about what happened on the Iulia Maesa, and other things.”

“Yes sir.” You stand up with him, and walk out.
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>>1060339
Time to sell Bethany down the river and completely ruin her life
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>>1060317

No need to, she's being flustered by the man she loves, who already proposed to her and has talked about having children with her. Samantha Blanchett is extremely happy even if she's worried that someone might see them because Roarke forgot to lock the door this time.
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>>1060343
Not really selling her when she had it coming. More like giving her a nudge. With a 2x4. Full of nails.
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>>1060343

Remind me, who's bethany again, and should we be happy or sad that she's getting the shaft?
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>>1060345
>forgot
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>>1060347
She's the one who more than likely killed Roarke's Brother.
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>>1060338
Is our castle is still up?
I don't know what happened to the mansion of our founder... But if it shared the same destiny of the rest of the clan of his half-brothers, its probably just ruins in the middle of a desert at this point...
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>>1060347
Bitch who gut-checked best boy.

Also potential First Mate candidate.

Huge tits.
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>>1060347
That one from the >[BREAK HER NECK] option.
Also, Fairchild's lover.
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>>1060350

Ah, in that case we should be smiling like the joker on meth while having a throbbing rage filled erection then.

Couldn't happen to a nicer corporate climbing whore.
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>>1060353
>>1060355
You know its probably best for her Roarke doesn't get his hands on her. Getting jailed and potential executed is more humane
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>>1060345
I suppose I should praise your writing skill for being able to make me emphasize with characters enough to actually distress me.

Good job, Wong.
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>>1060347
Major Bethany Cabot. Queen Bitch and lover to Fairy Queen Bitch. Possible killer of Captain Ozark, manliest man alive, and of Triple-C, Roarke's brother.
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You know, it's funny how we can narrow down who the first mate is based on how irrational they got when it turned out we weren't dead.

Something that most of the other choices for the one wearing that remote suit would not have done.

McPriest Josiah wouldn't have broken down, that's for sure. Motherfucker is solid. Probably has major PTSD he can only overcome with religious fanaticism
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>>1060361
He probably does what most veterans from the war do and justify it with how shit the Greenmen were and they deserved what happened to them
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>>1060356
I have some classic music and general good songs for the slow ripping apart of her cockpit with the Kaiser's drills, chainsaws, and pistons. One of the few things I will relish.
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>>1060368
Roarke would probably want her alive. He was a gangbanger for years he probably has no qualms about some good old fashioned torture
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>>1060361
I'd quote from my fav series "Burn Notice",
>Take two bottles
>Drop them to the ground
>One breaks into shattered pieces
>The other turns into a deadly weapon
Guess which one "Rejoice" is?
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>>1060371
Or just cap her. No need for catharsis via torture.
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>>1060367

To be honest when your opponent is fighting like the bastard child of the Tyrannids+ISIS it's not hard to justify literally burning everything they've ever touched to the ground.

Emperor knows the Imperium has Exterminatus'd entire worlds for a fuck of a lot less.
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>>1060367
Oh not PTSD from what he did but what happened to pretty much everyone he cared about.

Didn't all but like, two other people from Orange Pekoe totally bite the dust? One of which was later assassinated and the other is a TRAITOR?
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>>1060371
Nah. This is one of those cases where drawing out the screams isn't worth it. If we got her dead to rights, make it agonizing, but also absolute.
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>>1060374
>>1060378
She killed out brother and our captain who was like a father to us and then taunted us about both of them. She deserves it more than anything.
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>>1060377
TRAITOR probably got seduced by that Royal Greenman Pussy.

Though to be honest if they all look like Naomi and 'Laura' I can see why he got tempted.
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>>1060380
>Naomi and "Laura" don't look like Fatima

I mean, they aren't that great.

Hell, they don't even look as good as Siren. Or Sam.
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>>1060380
My guess if he went to the Greenman so he could be stronger. Seems like he just wants to be the strongest person in the galaxy and fight and kill other strong people. So pretty much Zodd
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>>1060379
Oh she does, but I am not going to let her even have a chance of escape. No secret body bombs, no hidden knives, no back up or tricks. We get her, we end her in a inglorious way. We strip her of the chance of being the person who pushed us too far. We strip her from the history books. We strip her of an iconic death. Her legacy will be nothing and I think that will be the greatest torture of all. A fool who used tricks on the ogre and was just another green skull.
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>>1060379
>tfw the Kaiser grin isn't half as scary as the expression on Roarke's face when he catches a whiff of the person who killed his family

Just project that face instead of the mask, I'm sure half the people fighting will just immediately surrender to that.
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>>1060379
No need. Just breach her pilot suit and drop her into the atmo of a planet and watch her hit the ground at terminal velocity.
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>"forgot"
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>>1060388
I fookin new it
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>>1060388
Done for tonight?
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>>1060388
Fuck your women in front of your crew, establish dominance

>>1060387
That's not as fun as putting her in a Bronze Bull, or Scaphism
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>>1060358
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>>1060395
I will admit though, I was really sad when Sam turned out to be a trap, since cute goth chicks are one of my fetishes.

I still like her character. Obviously.
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>>1060394
We pilot the Kaiser, thunderbird. We could slowly crush/drill/ and through the power of kung fu sorcery, likely cause her to explode. We could Hokuto no ken her with the drills!
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>>1060398
Do you know what Scaphism is?
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>>1060399
The twin boats? Yes, but like I said, I would rather not dwell on her too long. The length of a song, but no more. Once she's dead by any combination of things including decompression and being exposed in space, crush the pod and toss it away.
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So I took a quick glace at the special systems in ATM since I was going to try and build Dann like I said I was going to, and between Fighter form, Bio-organic power, thought control, and regenerating techno organics, this thing is going to get stupid expensive.
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Game resumes tomorrow at the usual time. It's definitely going to be short, the length of a conversation, albeit a potentially important one, and then next thread will be announced.

>>1060396

Samantha was always going to be a trap, but originally she wasn't going to be a waifu. Fatima was the first proper waifu planned.

>>1060394

I can do better than that. It wasn't just your brother and your captain, you had a five-man squad and you were as close with Minty and Thelma as you are with Miles and Richard. Part of the reason you survived is because their Harpies were shielding yours.

>>1060377

Leroy Vinland died under circumstances that haven't been explained to you yet. Alexander Starwind died in an industrial accident. The remaining three are alive...for now.

>>1060391
>>1060392
>yfw you pretend like you hear Pierre coming to say goodbye to his dear sister before going to Qu'lir...and then pretend like you're stuck and can't pull out.
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>>1060403
Man I just want to kung-fu punch her clean in half. Well, maybe not cleanly, but you get the idea. Quick, brutal, and largely irreparable. Even if she somehow Darth Maul's it.
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>>1060408
Whoops, sorry. Didn't mean to quote anyone on this post.
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>>1060411
Thanks for running Wong. See you tomorrow.
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>>1060411
>Alexander Starwind died in an industrial accident.

>REEEEEE
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Sam is my favorite of the waifu's
And no worries about me dropping the Quest once the tournament is over, I may miss more threads than I would like do to work. But this is my favorite quest running and I am in this for the long run
Thanks for running this amazing quest Wong
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>>1060437
First thread & quest to post in. I'll genuinely be sad once MSPQ is over.
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>>1060442
I understand how you feel. This is the most involved i have been in a quest. Mostly thanks to the other posters being awesome and encouraging disscusion.
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>>1060307
What's this from?
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>>1060527
Sara's Honey Moon
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>>1060942
SAMANTHA not Sara
I don't know why I said Sara
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>>1060948
So how many traps named Sara do you know? A few, or one really good one?
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>>1055543
king in yellow. jove save us all
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>>1059375
Before I forget, there a few designs already made that just don't have a pilot... I could just adapt one of them for you if you want... Are you interested?

>>1060448
>>1060437
I understand how you guys feel, even the human factor here is part of the show too, and at this point its fun to be here even when we are not playing.

>>1060974
You know... Brazil is famous for traps... But I've never seen one called Sara, even if this isn't exactly a rare name here.

>>1060948
Huh, I rarely see you posting here Ranalcu, are you just poting anonymously or do you usually just lurk?
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>>1061226
>Brazil is famous for traps
I thought that was Thailand. And isn't Brazil more famous for the festivals?
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>>1061226
how was copacabana?
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>>1061369
Actually I gotta plus one that. While Brazil is far more famous for its festivals and such, it is known for an oddly high quantity of traps, amongst the circles who keep track of such things.
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>>1061399
So wait, are you telling me the Brs who hue at me over the net have a good chance at being cute traps? I'm conflicted.
Anyways, looking back we got a good battle plan going and certainly a lot of support. Four ships worth of CWIS at a choke point with some luck thrown in would tear through their army of mechs after the flood(CWIS are infinite burst so if you hit in the 10+ range, you are going to be ripping knights and the like to shreds.) I think the yellowish orange chevalier will belong to the Masked Man but I'm not sure if he's one of Belph's or Ford's.
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>>1061421
>Masked Man but I'm not sure if he's one of Belph's or Ford's.

Maybe they both belong to him? Maria wasn't the big shot that was around here, he is? He's literally The Lady? He is Bluegill Joe. He's Roarke Starwind. She's Fairchild.

Man, who knows?
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>>1061453
Well, it is a thing to consider. For the most part the basic assumption is a leadership of the greenlady, the queen, then the paladins. The Masked man seems too strong to not be modified in some way(jumping down from a building from that height can hurt a helluva lot) so him being at least a candidate is possible.
Feels like a case of something is going to hit some fans full force, even if we take down Ford and his army with no casualties. If the thing can produce mandrakes too, this could greatly increase their paladin production power.
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>tfw you still suspect clearwater
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>>1061369
>>1061399
You know, I don't know if most of them are so passable that I can't indentify them from real women. but even if I know that we are the country with the biggest amount of traps... I almost never see them.

Thailand may have the biggest percentage of traps... But Brazil absurdly huge, and they tend to flock to coastal cities or state's capitals becoming even more noticeable.

...And Rio's is home to the most powerfull MSM power of the whole country, who openly supports these sorts of things... So its not hard to find them if you look in the right places here... But I'm not the kind of people who have interest in such things.
>>1061380
It's been years since the last time I went there, and it was like I expected... Crazy, but kind of beautiful in a exotic way.
Its a good place to visit and maybe spend some time and money if you enjoy a open air nightlife... But I wouldn't like to live there, too much degeneracy and noise on the streets, its not a good place to raise children.

>>1061453
>>1061473
I don't know, he seems much more like the type of people to be working for Ford than to Maria, he is shady, masked, works mostly alone, and seems to be involved in sabotage plans, while Maria people were more the sort to be upfront in battle and on scare tactics, the sort who inspires fear by being there and making resistance seem useless, not by hiding their faces and making veiled threats on a stage.

Maria servants: Those Knights who ambushed us, the Knights who went "MUH HONOR" on the dam, Dame Wayland... While Maria used everychance she had to try to just stomp us with her superior machine or intimidate us to surrender by force.

Fords servants: That filthy spy who gave him info on everyone and everything through the rebels, Four ears who manipulated people to be her meat shields and used a mask to go undetected and stab us from behind.

And there is hector, who serves under Ford but betrayed him by going against his orders and save his girl, while screwing with Ford's plan by neutralizing his own rebels and revealing the identity of Ford's spy on the ship....

To me, everything points to Hastur being on Ford's Payroll.
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>>1061897
Hector is one of the Duke's chevaliers though, and the traitor made the offer to Maria. Four Ears seems to be more on Maria's side as well considering her closeness to the region.
For the most part, while she talks of honor, Maria is the craftier of the two. Spook tactics, ambush points, divide and conquer, these seem to be what she is best at. As for Ford, I honestly don't think he'd be good at that stuff. With just cursory data we know he's very much a fighter and is much more blunt. Human wave, razing everything in his path, these are incredibly aggressive actions that run counter with Maria's who desired using the natives to rise up fully. By killing civvies, the less fanatical members would be put off and cause friction.
The real kicker is that for all this, the Masked man seems too.. passive. Both in terms of action and appearance. More an observer than a actual fighter. Why didn't he try rallying the cat people? Why didn't he join in on an attack? He was there when the Squillia went berserk. Why didn't he try for the capture? Why didn't he try to intercept Simon's female friend?
He doesn't fit the MOs of either of the Paladins when their Chevaliers tend to take traits from them. Not only that, but his choice of weapons concern me. The number of fist fighters are pretty rare, especially purist ones. I can only think of a few teachers for that sort of style if it has no outward weapons.
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>>1062019
>Hector
sorry, I really forgot that, its a good thing you remembered this as it has been much time since the last time we saw him.

About Hastur though... What if he is just a spy for the traitor Paladin? In fact, it would explain why he is there if they knew about Simon, as he has the same fighting style of Roarke's Rival, and could get his attention because of that.

Also, remember who created that thing and just transported it here? Bahamut.
And who selled thing to Avalon, with possibly information included? Bahamut.

I'm not 100% about this... But could be possible.
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>>1062084
I would not be surprised if there is a pro-war faction of the corps that want the war to continue to increase gains and power. Playing both sides then declaring their own independence. And yes, I was implying he was likely a spy for Belph. The fact that a paladin can be created through non Green lady means helps her just as much as it helps us.
We should finish reading those logs from Mr. Biggs. Aside for insight, it's probably one of three big bargaining chips we can do during the auction to turn things our way.
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“Drawing your sword on a superior officer is a very serious offense, Lieutenant Wedge.” The Colonel says as you walk along the hallway.

“I'm aware, sir.” You respond crisply. Despite what Lieutenant McAllister suggested, you never really believed Garret's friendship would entirely shield you from the consequences of your actions.

“I believe it also saved your life. Major Cabot would have had no reservations about cutting you down, despite the consequences. Some people, Lieutenant, were just born wrong.” The Colonel hits the button for the lift.

“Ah, you mean like the Butcher, sir.” You nod in understanding.

Much to your surprise, he shakes his head, “No, at one time she was a sweet, innocent girl with a big heart, and I sincerely hope she's found more happiness outside of the military. General Fairchild pollutes everyone she puts her hands on, and I'm quite happy that you escaped before she began bending you into the shape she desired. The UJCIDF doesn't need monsters, it needs human beings, good ones, who have a sincere desire to protect Jupiter, the Solar System, and mankind itself. Cabot is, unfortunately, a monster. Worse, she's a short-sighted monster who has already destroyed one important SOUL asset. Keep that in mind for the future, she will bear a grudge against you until one of you is dead.” He sighs, “Fortunately for you, General Fairchild is as eager to sweep this incident under the rug as I am, and I am extremely grateful to you for protecting my little brother. Your punishment is a one-week suspension of duty when all of this is over, you'll be put on paid leave. If, perchance, two tickets to the Cetacean Restoration Project or one of the many fine resorts on Planet Texas should find their way into your possession...well, it would be a shame to waste them, wouldn't it?”

“Of course, sir. Um, if I may, what asset were you talking about?” You wonder why there was such bitterness in his voice. Colonel Luxol doesn't seem like the sort of person to indulge in petty emotions like hatred.

[Continued]
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“A man, Lieutenant Wedge, a man who was utterly invaluable to our cause and could potentially have secured a Jovian alliance with the Belt. I'll get to him in a minute.” The Colonel glances at you, “You look surprised that I'm speaking of the Belt as an independent entity when ostensibly it belongs to us and the Martians, correct? There's a saying, 'one owns only what one can hold'. At this time, do we hold the Belt?”

“I heard that pirate attacks have been reduced substantially thanks to General Fairchild's work in the Solar System, sir, do we not hold the Belt?” You question him.

He smiles, “Now there's an interesting bit of fiction. Not entirely false, but certainly not true. No, many of our corporations own colonies in the belt, but...do you own any stocks, Amos?”

“No sir.” You admit.

“You should, it's a fine way to supplement your official pay. I do, so I keep carefully abreast of their activities. I'm far from the only one, SOUL's founders both had connections to Bahamut Corporation, and General Fairchild is in so deep with Bucephalus Heavy Industries that she could possibly sit on their board of directors. Both of them are selling off their Belt-based colonies, and numerous smaller corporations have rushed to fill the gap, both Martian and Jovian. Corporations without so much...stake...in our government.” He stops just short of naming the elephant in the room, but you know very well just how much influence the megacorps have, “The Belt has never been fully exploited despite its key defensive position and vast potential wealth. Would you like to take a guess as to why?” He smiles, “If you can answer that, you'll understand better why political events have taken the turn they have, and why we should be profoundly grateful for the existence of Avalon.”

>[Guess]
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>>1062380
Because of the likes of Roarke Starwind? The belt, vast resources aside and it's closeness to both Mars and Jupiter, is incredibly vast. It's resources are all over and aside from Auditorium, there are few big places. If someone hid there, you wouldn't be able to find them easily.
It's the briar rabbit and the briar patch. If he wanted to hide we would be having trouble catching him, and he could hurt us pretty bad if he wanted to. So the fact he's sticking to one place and can build things up in that sort of environment would be a important sign.
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>>1062380
"Because whoever owned it could potentially checkmate the other members of the Solar League. Mars doesn't trust Jupiter, Jupiter doesn't trust Mars, The moonies keep an eye on both and absolutely nobody trusts the Terrans."
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>>1062380
>Because the Bruce is loose?
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>>1062380
Its a vital trade line for the planets of the inner solar system and the outer solar system so if one of the planets took over the route completely it would damage the economy of the rest of the system
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>>1062380
>>1062435
I agree that the belt just seems too big to "hold" properly. Add in that there are already groups in there that have decided to try their hand at holding a small portion of it and you have a hell of a time waiting for you.

Whoever tries to take the belt with any serious effort would also leave their booty open for anyone else to plunder. Nobody who has a set home and resources to defend it has enough to continue defending AND take the belt with any guarantee of success or safety.

The combined forces of Jupiter and Mars are already stretched too thin over here in THIS system, not to mention the others the war has reached.

Quite simply, we need more humans.
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>>1062380
>Because neither Jupiter nor Mars trust each other. This war with Avalon makes us allies of convenience. Whomever that tries for claiming the Belt, would leave enough of an opening for the other party to strike at their homeworld. The same reasons why the Greenmen lost the War still applies today.
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“It's an important trade route, right? If Jupiter took it over, it would damage the economy of Mars, and the other way around...right?” You hazard. You don't know very much about money on such a large scale, and you're only about halfway sure you know what an economy even is.

“True, which is why both planets have invested there...but that isn't what I'm referring to. No, I'm talking about something far more serious.” The Colonel gestures for you to precede him onto the lift, then hits the button.

“Are we going to the mechbay, sir?” You question.

He nods, “That will be relevant later. Not now.”

You scratch your head, “Something to do with Roarke Starwind?”

He smiles and shakes his head, “Perhaps he is the solution to certain problems...but no. The problem is, in fact, our very own and closest ally. Mars.”

“Mars? But the Martians have been steadfast friends to us since the War!” You protest, “I know lots of Martians, they're good people.”

“Indeed they are. The billions of Martians who have been reproducing at an alarming rate due to the dictates of their Caliph, who are experiencing a resurgence of their religion after an age of obscurity, and who are eager to share the joys of Islam with the galaxy. Close friends, in part thanks to the fence between us. That could very easily change if the border between our territory was thinned, and the Martian ethos and economy demands expansion to sustain its growth...so needs force them to expand outwards, and therein lies the true danger to Jupiter and its cultural identity.” He gestures around, “Qu'lir is a beautiful planet, isn't it? Do you think that it could become part of Jovian civilization?”

>[Yes]
>[No]
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>>1062702
>>[Yes]
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>>1062702
"In time yes. The strain of the Roman Republic's expansion eventually turned it into an empire. We must be careful not to tread along the same path. So watch out for gloryhound generals who like to play politics."
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>>1062702
>[Yes]
But we'd have to be willing to show them that we can protect them just as much as they could help us.

Possibly use the example of the shit that one rebel caught that got her expelled?
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>>1062702
>Maybe

"I want to think so, but there's still wounds from the past."
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>>1062745
show them that we can AND WILL protect them, rather...blerg.
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>>1062702
>No
It won't be Jovian and it won't pick up our culture fully, but it will be neither martian or Avalonian. Even with the conflict reaching it's peak, the people have their own culture and our reaction to them has caused friction as well. If we tried to pressure them, we will just create more rebels who might just use worse means than what was presented.
However, they can be a ally but it requires us to help rebuild. Help them grow after fighting over them instead of turning them into a tool. We cannot repeat the CUSS and if we spread too thin, mistakes will be made all over again.
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>>1062702
>No... Not Exactly
Then this: >>1062777
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My apologies for the delay, everyone. Unfortunately, I was called to babysit at the last minute. In an hour, my niece will be asleep and we can continue this. I do beg your pardon for these difficulties, but as the eldest son of my family I am expected to be the most reliable.
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>>1062819
It's fine. Family is important and this allows us to discuss and formulate an answer.
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>>1062819
God do I know how that works. I used to run quests, until various family issues like that got just way too much in the way. Grandfather had alzheimer's, I have to more or less raise my nephew, etc. Not to mention my own health.

Ah, the wonders of being the 'responsible one'.
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>>1062361
>Planet Texas
Is that what I think it is?
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>>1062702
>Yes
>But only if we can prove ourselves better than their last colonial elite that force them to gene-splice themselves. Why else the catfolk would side with Avalon? Right or wrong, the local partisans see us as a return of the old CUSS. And that is why they fight so hard against us.
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>>1062702
>>[No]
Not in our lifetimes at least. Old wounds aren't healed yet. And they can take a very long time to do so.
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>>1062819
Thats okay Wong, family always come first.
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>>1062840

It's exactly what you think it is.
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>>1062702
>[No]
Not until their souls aren't weighed down by gravity.
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“So, we need to be grateful to Avalon because they keep us from war with Mars?” You hazard, while pondering the question. It's hard to definitively say yes or no when you've been fighting an insurgency here, so you stall for time, feeling uncomfortably like you did back in your days at the Academy facing an exam you haven't studied for.

“They delay it.” The Colonel looks sidelong at you.

“The Caliph is an old man.” You admit, “And notoriously without family.”

The Colonel nods.

“Colonel, if Hakim the Kinless dies...who becomes Caliph?” You inquire.

The Colonel nods, “That is a truly excellent question, one I know just as little as you about. If he's anything like their original Prophet, his choice could spark centuries of war and assassination. Are you avoiding my question, Lieutenant?”

“In time, maybe they could. It's a bit like Rome, isn't it?” You shrug. History was always more of Caesar's thing than yours. “I like them alright, but they seem to resent us.”

“Quite right. Rome grew and grew, until it became so large it split in half and withered. It adopted foreign religions, and eventually dissolved as a culture into the barbarians who invaded it. You are right to be skeptical.” He claps you on the shoulder, “You're ultimately correct.”

“I know it's not something I should be saying, sir.” You can't help sounding apologetic.

“The problem is, what choice do we have? If we don't have planets under our influence, how do we compete with Mars without going to war with them? Mars will have no compunction about converting the populace to establish a common religion for the whole of their interstellar Caliphate, and it will continue to grow, and grow, and grow until it swallows us all. One vast, endlessly warring empire. Preventing that is the real reason for Jupiter's involvement in the Solar System League, but that itself is killing us in the long run.” He taps a button on the lift's controls to hold it, “I am trusting in your discretion, Lieutenant. The Terrans feeding us advanced technology and buying out senators and corporation heads from behind the scenes is, itself, clearly intended as part of some longer scheme, and I suspect our role in it is as a sacrifice. As it stands, we are currently stronger than Mars, enough to easily conquer it if it came to that...but that state isn't going to persist. Not for long.”

[Continued]
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>>1063324
>Deus Vults in the background
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>>1063324
SPACE CRUSADES WHEN?!
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>>1063324
>>1063338
>Deus Vults in the background
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“Now, some in the Senate believe we should adopt the role of an elder sibling, a 'first among equals approach'. The number of active proponents is small, so far, but it is viewed as a moderate position, and ultimately I suspect that when the imperialists and isolationists have been carefully winnowed by conflict and mudslinging it will grow in popularity. Politics is like a garden, you can't tell your rosebushes how to grow, but you can prune them, shape them, encourage them in certain directions. It's a viewpoint even I have considered espousing...but there is a problem with it.” He smiles.

“It sounds almost like the CUSS, you mean?” You tilt your head to the side, considering it.

“The CUSS was arguably much more loose with its member states than we would be. I, for one, have no intention of allowing what happened to Qu'lir the first time to happen again, and I will gladly destroy anyone who would. The problem is, that approach, as tempting as it is has never once in all of history worked. Inevitably, it always fails, from the time before the nuclear conflict that blighted Terra, in the age of nations. I have no desire to watch Jupiter be bled dry taking care of countless scattered worlds, each of whom will have needs foreign to us, because if we do not benefit them or crush them in some way, they will have no reason to belong to us rather than to ally with someone else, or each other. Tell me, what would you suggest? Because frankly, I still don't know what should be done. If you can do better than me, I'll be very impressed.”

>[Fifteen minutes and I'll pick the answer, to represent thinking on your feet.]
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>>1063398

Also, "I don't know" is a completely valid answer to this question. I had to rewrite the post before this when I realized you picked all of the Discretion answers with Amos in earlier threads aside from protecting Garret, which significantly changes what Trevor is willing to tell you.
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>>1063398
I think this is a bit above my pay grade sir.
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>>1063398
Well.. why not make heroes? The issue right now is that there is no camaradery. Jovians don't see the cat people as equals and that causes friction. But a cat person who did great things or showed great merit or even helping and assisting would bind everyone together. A deep connection of humanity and merit would then motivate others to grow and then seeing the hero's success try to emulate and grow as well. Cultivate them and foster them in such a way that they become productive and we'd have a great ally.
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>>1063398
A two part government? Everything already part of the Jupiter government is one branch, everything else is another branch. Planets/nations/groups/what have you can apply to be admitted to the Jupiter part of the government. The Jupiter part of the government gets some benign bonuses that incentives actually applying. It'll incentive the border nations to model themselves more like Jupiter to better their chances of joining.

That's where Rome failed after all. They stopped making the people they conquered Roman.
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>>1063398
>Well since the religion is the problem maybe we should figure out a way to convert them? Or try and covertly cause a civil war to buy time. I mean I'm no historian but for what I remember from history lessons, Islam had a lot of infighting that stopped it from conquering Europe.
Wish Amos was a little smarter, all we can really do is vague outlines
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>>1063398
>Look suprised
"You're asking me!?"

"I mean... Uhhh, I... Really don't know,sir. I'm just a soldier after all, but... Maybe we shouldn't try to herd them as the CUSS did, and instead of trying to woo or conquer everybody we could just sell our services to them and having they eat in your hands... I mean... The Martians have a planet but our economic power is greater than theirs, I think, and wouldn't them choose the guys who aren't actively trying to go "convert or die" on them?"
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>>1063398
>>1063428
>that incentives
that will incentivize

>It'll incentive
It'll provide incentive to

I swear I forgot how to speak English.
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>>1063398
"Simple. If Mars will turn upon us when there are no more enemies to conquer, then insure that there are always enemies to conquer. Kill their lady, but don't crush Avalon. Allow Roarke the belt. Allow other states to grow strong free of both us and Avalon. Everyone who tries to control the course of human history falls, so give up control to protect ourselves. Get a solid block of allies, and allow the formation of enough other blocks that Mars will need our support to go conquistador, support that we shall not grant. Either they will change or they will burn in time."
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>>1063430

Amos is Intelligence 8 and Technical Ability 8. He's actually quite bright, just rather plainspoken.
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>>1063441
His education isn't high so he doesn't know enough about History to draw upon Shia vs Sunni
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>>1063435
>I swear I forgot how to speak English.
You should be happy that you aren't in my level of shame yet.
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>>1063430
Hes smarter than roarke. Less educated though somehow.
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>>1063438
>>1063398
This seems like the sannest option
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>>1063471

Roarke studies harder.
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>>1063494
I imagine if you had sam and karen helping you study you would study hard too
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>>1063494
In terms of stats, Amos is smarter and bigger than Roarke, but he's also more spread out. Roarke is more attractive, and incredibly cool, but also has more empathy. A Guan Yu to Roarke's Lu Bu.
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“How many fronts are there in this war?” You ask, half to yourself and half to the Colonel.

“Too many.” He replies.

“So let's keep it that way. Make Mars reliant on us and our allies. If they want to expand beyond our control, let them stretch themselves too thin, and reassert ourselves as important allies when stretching themselves too thin leads to civil conflict. Create a new power bloc in the Belt, and allow Avalon to hold some autonomy after the War...whatever's left of it willing to deal with us after we kill the Lady.” You hazard, “I know it's not perfect, having allies instead of client states does leave us vulnerable, but we have every right to support a planet's right to its own religious beliefs and if we set a precedent now, there won't be as much fuss later.”

“It's a solid thought, Lieutenant.” He says after a moment's reflection, “Certainly morally palatable. One thing I will say is this, the key to the future is building up our war power now while the public is enthusiastic about submitting to the oldest form of theft there is.”

“Taxes, sir?” You ask.

He smiles and nods, “Of course. An evil thing I hope to spare the public from in peacetime, but necessary to fund the war for now. I've decided, for the duration of my command of SOUL during this operation you will be serving as my second-in-command.”

“Will Laurence get jealous, sir?” You inquire innocently.

One of the Colonel's bushy eyebrows twitches, but then he smiles, “I could always ask Ensign Young, so long as Laurence doesn't find out.”

“I would be honored to accept your offer, sir!” You've never saluted harder in your life.

“At ease, number one. By the way, are you close with the Fleur girls?” He returns your salute, “I'm thinking of sending them on the sabotage operation, and having you take command of the dam mission. How would you like to proceed? From what I understand, you've spoken with one of their leaders before, but keep in mind that if you'd prefer to just storm the place you have my full support. Count Ford may have a bit over twice as many mecha as we do, but as least some of ours are better than theirs. Some.” He concedes.

>[Give any input you have on the mission ahead and how you'd like to do it. As your commanding officer, Trevor will fill in the gaps himself.]
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>>1063544
I think it will require a mix of strength, knowledge, and possibly an out. Soul C could serve as the spear head, and a shock of 3 high preformance machines is pretty good. But I think the big thing may require getting one of the fleurs to feed us info of Lucas' activity. Either real time or recent. The rebels think that the Avalonians are still good, but whole sale slaughter by one of their paladins may fracture them more. After that, it's a matter of providing an out for those who surrender. If they do, get them off planet and away from the fight. Some may try to communicate with Ford, but that may help if we mention we are making this a choke point/gate.
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>>1063544
I know that you guys think that trying diplomatic measures here could risk Ford knowing that the Dam is compromised... But he will know this anyway when we force him to pass through there on his way to the Capital.

And Hector is possibly the easiest chevalier to deal with in this whole planet... Do you guys want to at least give it a try?

And what can we offer them beside their own lifes and humane treatment?
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>>1063544
"Young has that Gigantic Canon, and the Knights are simply too slow to catch him, especially with manta support. They'll have the choice of sending an ace or two without escort mecha or just taking the fire. With stealth mecha, either way we win.
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>>1063576
>Do you guys want to at least give it a try?
No.
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>>1063576
No point to not to, but it's not going to work.
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>>1063576
No

>>1063593
If its not going to work why ruin the element of surprise?
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>>1063569
To add to the unit for the assault. Range units on mantas for support and cover with a few to assist close up. Shock and Awe is the key bit to this and our goal should be to keep man power strong before the climatic battle.
>>1063576
Straight diplomacy won't work. Not with Hector leading. We will need to face him, but our reputation may help. Like I said, show them what one of the Elites of Avalon is doing. Ask if they are willing to kill their own kin and family for their own beliefs. Ask if they are willing to serve as the meat shields for the Avalonians. We don't need them to ally, we just need them gone.
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>>1063602
It wont? I assumed we'd do it once he got close and not mention taking the dam.
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>>1063610
Would rather do it mid assault, not before. We want them to be off kilter. Their morale may be low and unbeatable soldiers will scare them. Defeatism is a powerful tool.
>>1063602
Would what I do work? Surprise attack, images of Ford roasting the furries, taking out any dissenters and giving them an out? We do not want to destroy the damn before the enemy arrives and if they are entrenched, we would be taking unneeded damage.
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>>1063606
>>1063602
challenge him to a duel? pulling out things that've worked before on the Avalonians
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>>1063593
I'm not saying to ask them to help us fight avalon, just to get out of the way like >>1063606 said, and maybe getting some of their mechs for the little advantage they could give us in numbers, depending on how much they have.

>>1063602
What element of surprise? Do you really think that they didn't equip the Dam with sensors around it? The moment we show up there they will be alredy as far under the earth and behind traps as they can, and has >>1063610 we don't need to mention the dam to try to persuade them.

>>1063624
I still don't know how and why... But this worked 100% of the times we tried it.
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>>1063624
We have a big ass fight coming up and might not have the time to repair our shit so we should probably avoid getting into 1 on 1s.
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>>1063635
They will take days to reach here... We can do repair in hours.
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>>1063638
We can repair one mech in most of a day if the top engineer gets to requisition as much shit if she wants.
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>>1063654
That's the Squillia though. AKA the most experimental mech that exists.
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>>1063624
Not as the first action. I would say have our snipers take out their scouts and support first. Removing their snipers with our own makes things easier. Once we do that, move in for a proper assault. Only ask for officer fight when he comes out or we get called. No one on one fights.
>>1063638
Yea, if it's superficial damage. Losing limbs off of prototypes would take longer. More time repairing is less time whittling and prepping the ambushes, defenses, and traps.
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>>1063544
>, the key to the future is building up our war power now while the public is enthusiastic about submitting to the oldest form of theft there is.”
>“Taxes, sir?” You ask.
I'm quite surprised by this.
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>>1063658
That isn't how you say "Knuckle Kaiser X". I'm afraid of what Karen's pipe dreams are for an optimized KK is. Interdimensional punching?
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>>1063658
True but ours is pretty fancy itself so what half the time? Plus we would have to wait for the Squillia to get repaired first plus we would have to repair everyone else that gets dinged up on this mission.
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>>1063675
Aquarion infinite range style fists. No penalties from range.
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>>1063675
time travel punching, concentrate all of the punches Roarke has thrown with the Kaiser in one spot
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>>1063680
It'll take a day because we completely destroyed both legs and the head. If we take that kind of damage in the next mission, we have bigger things to worry about than repair time.
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>>1063687
*has thrown and will throw
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>>1063635

The S-Delphinius is completely undamaged, actually.
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>>1063687
>tfw you can see Karen designing a capacitor system that stores excess energy produced from the KK's punches and can be released at will all at once in the form of a directed energy fist weapon

And he'd have two of them because he has two arms. Too bad I have no idea how this system works or if it's possible in it.
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>>1063688
Its entirely possible we could considering how hard we got rocked last time. All the more reason to gang up if possible.
>>1063695
I mean after the dam mission.
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>>1063701
Hasn't the dam just been taken over by random Quil'ir terrorists? And weren't we in a bog standard Pumkinseed II last time, not a SOUL mech with a Gamma armor shield and shitloads of guns?
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>>1063708
We also took out a Paladin in a pumpkinseed II. Do not assume just because we are bigger means we are better. These are still aces. They can still wreck us.
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>>1063708
>Hasn't the dam just been taken over by random Quil'ir terrorists?
All the more reason to gang up on the one really powerful mech they have with our better ones.
>And weren't we in a bog standard Pumkinseed II last time, not a SOUL mech with a Gamma armor shield and shitloads of guns?
Remember ceaser and moes last fight and how quick that was? Just because we are in a more equal position it doesnt mean we should get reckless.
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>>1063700
converting excess kinetic energy from punches to stored power seems rather difficult... I suppose you could use some sort of piezoelectric system but I'm not aware of any piezoelectric materials that would make good shock absorbers for multi ton punches, let alone how you'd re-convert that energy into a nastier punch short of some sort of plasma mitten like the squilla has.
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>>1063716
We literally got the luckiest shot of all time doing that. If you plan for everything to go as wrong as it possibly can, there's no point in even trying.

>>1063719
I'm not saying we get reckless, I'm saying that we shouldn't assume we'll lose half our servos to some random Quil'ir terrorists.
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>>1063724
And I'm saying that we shouldnt go looking for a one on one with their most powerful mech, one which equals our own, when we dont need to so we can minimize the chance of that happening.
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>>1063544
>Blitz assault. They still aren't expecting us to hit them with the relief effort still ongoing. We hit hard and fast, take out their leaders, and the rest will fall in line. We don't give them time to think or react.
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>>1063724
Losing a servo is dangerous and with a heavier machine they will have a base lead on us. It is very easy to crit that way. If we must face them, we face them as a team. Our snipers can likely disable Four. With both Simon and ourselves, we can box him in and take him out.
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So, is the consensus on having a duel with Hector or not?
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>>1063544
>"We could try to persuade their leader into doubting their cause by showing them the Ford's recordings and pressing them against the wall... And then we blitz their base and maybe take out their comander in a duel on the process."
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>>1063751
Not as the first thing, no. Blitz attack, see where it goes from there and using some suggestions offered to give them an out. Any duel should be a team match, not one on one.
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>>1063722
Probably some sort of kinetically driven torsion things or whatever. Or like those watches that are charged by shaking them or jostling them like they would be by walking or running or the like.
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>>1063751
I say nay if we can possibly avoid it. Amos might not be afraid of a fight but he has also shown he is willing to fight strong enemies as part of a team rather than challenging everyone with a name to a duel.
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>>1063733
>>1063746
I'm not arguing for a one on one though? All I've ever said is that fighting at the dam won't be disastrous and repairing the mechs won't take that long. Where'd you get the idea I was arguing for a duel? I never even mentioned one.

>>1063751
No, I don't think there's any reason to give them a fair fight.
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>>1063751
Blitz their base, call out Hector for a duel.
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>>1063770
^^^
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>>1063766
All I was talking about was not dueling hector because it might fuck us up and leave us unavailable for the next fight. I was replying to this in the first place >>1063624
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>>1063770
Then have a bunch of snipers shoot him in the back?

>>1063782
Oh, then yeah that could fuck the Delphinus up. I thought you were talking about fighting the regular guys at the dam. My bad. Sorry about that.
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>>1063787
Nah, we need to keep at least a facade of honor, or they will stop agreeing to our duels.

And we can stomp this guy, just don't risk it and go spending luck on him since the begining, it should work.
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>>1063791
I'm fairly sure Amos has only had one actual duel so far and the rest were team fights or gangbangs of varying degrees of success. We can still regularly attack them and remain honorable.
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>>1063803
Not if we call for a duel, this would stain our reputation with them... The problem isn't fighting them as normal, the problem is that Tank-kouhai is suggesting to claim to be okay with a duel and then betray them by having a firing squad of snipers interfere just after he gets in range.
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>>1063818
Then just dont ask for a duel and attack them. Problem solved.
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>>1063818
Yep. Why fight someone when you can just execute them?
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>>1063820
Because then they won't be ready to get shot.
I wonder how far I can take this shitpost.
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>>1063827
>implying Avalonians arent always ready to be shot
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And I did some quick experimenting on 'improving' the Squilia's fists. If the weapons are separated to just the fists and seperate energy shields, mating them together would lower the cost dramatically. Hell, I was able to give the shields attack factors of 2 so they parry 2 attacks and the total cost was 129. 11 less cp per arm, which can be used to lower the weight, give it more space efficiency and put in more thrusters!
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I wonder when we'll meet an Avalonian with an accent so thick we literally can't understand a word they say.
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>>1063836
We already met Lori
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>>1063836
So Space Quebecois instead of space france?
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>>1063829
>implying Jovians arent always ready to be shot*
This is what will happen when you start shotting everyone who agree with trying to solve this with the less blood as possible.
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>>1063849
Rolling over and surrendering would solve this with the least blood as possible. That doesnt make it a good idea. Sometimes the best option is to start spilling blood, preferably other peoples.
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>>1063856
Doomguy would agree with this option
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>>1063859
Doomguy would advocate creating a mech sized gun that shot explosive chainsaws and issuing combat drugs to every soldier.
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>>1063856
We wouldn't be able to re-take the ship without spilling blood last time if we had just rushed on the Knights, many of us would die and we would probable win with heavy loses and having the Captain executed by four ears panicking.

Sometimes the best option is to spill blood, but no always.

And dueling Hector isn't a suicide plan, why are you so against it?
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>>1063867
Because it is needlessly dangerous. The knights cant match us properly but hector can especially one on one. So we take out the one strong opponent in the safest and fastest method and then we can handle the others with relative ease.

Also have you considered what we do if we lost a duel? Give up and fuck up the UJCIDF whole plan? Have everyone else continue fighting despite losing a duel dishonoring ourselves and putting our teammates at increased risk due to reduced numbers?
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>>1063877
That depends on the conditions of the duel, we won't agree to "We surrender everything if we lose" but could agree to "We let you and your mechs go unharmed away from this area" or something.

They also know that our leader would never agree to stupid terms when they have already won, we are mostly just giving them a way out from the shame of just surrendering or dying in a suicide battle because of honor.
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>>1063895
Oh so they can tell Ford about our plan and that we've taken over the base, and GIVE THEM MORE TROOPS TO FIGHT US
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>>1063897
Its why every method of giving them an out involves them being off the planet. Likewise, them mentioning that we are at the Dam is fine. It's that we are using it to flood their forces that we need to avoid telling them.
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>>1063895
>We let you and your mechs go unharmed away from this area
Great job genius now they can go tell the rest of their army about our plan.

This shit right here is how roarke kept getting away with things. If people ganged up on him early on rather than dueling him for everything he wouldn't have gotten as big as he did.

Conversely dueling is generally the best option for roarke because the rest of his troops are relatively lackluster which isnt the case here where our mechs are better than theirs. Dueling here is a pointless.
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>>1063916
Pointless risk I meant.
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>>1063906
How are they getting off planet? There are no Avalonian ships nearby. Stop being so diplomatic Amos has absolutely no problem killing Avalonians he just didn't want to kill the Catgirls. He has killed Avalonians plenty of times and is a soldier first and for most
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>>1063897
You know that our plan involves Ford going to the dam in full knowing that we are there, right?

Also, we won't let them join Ford, we can just take them away from the planet, going the opposite way Hector went to getting here.

If they fail we just capture them, either way we get them out of the way.

>>1063916
Read this: >>1063906

Do you really think that Ford won't suspect 4 SHIPS FLYING OVER THE DAM WHILE A WHOLE ARMY WAITS FOR THEM?
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>>1063921
The same way hector got in... Don't ask me, ask Wong... Or the Avalonians, as they already had lost the space at that point.
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>>1063930
>Don't ask me about a key component of my plan
Hector got in by parachuting from the sky YOU CAN'T LEAVE A PLANET THAT WAY YOU FUCKING MONGOLOID STOP POSTING STUPID PLANS WHEN YOU KNOW NOTHING JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
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>>1063924
We arent a god damn over emotional space pirate right now we are a soldier. We should carry this military assault out in the way that benefits our forces the most rather the way that benefits the enemy.

I'm not even suggesting we kill them all but I am certainly suggesting we hit them as hard and as fast as possible and that we dont give them any needless advantages such as the possibility of their main army getting reinforcement form more knights and another ace mech.
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>>1063921
Via simple shuttle. One way or another we need that dam to deal with Ford. We do not want to have them spite us and blow the dam. We do not want them to dig in and drag this out. Costing us power in the theatre when we could be setting up for the final defense. We give them a means to quickly end the fight with minimal casualties via surrender. We do not let them try for a last man standing scenario because that leads to the previous issues.
The kitty kong's initial plan was to leave the planet using our cruiser after all. So this goes from cruiser to shuttle. Possibly smaller considering that many Kitty Kong will not want to stick around when footage of Ford killing their people is shown.
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>>1063935
HOW DID HE GOT IN THERE WITH TOTAL JOVIAN CONTROL OF SPACE!? SOMEONE OBVIOUSLY BROUGHT HIM CLOSER WITH A SHIP AND THEM HE JUMPED INTO THE PLANET! SO THEY HAVE SOMEONE WAITING FOR THEM UP THEEEEEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

>>1063936
From where would they get reinforcement? I never said that we should agree in letting they join the main army.
I'm just suporting giving them a option besides fighting to the death, as surrendering is a great dishonor for them and they will drag this almost to total deathmatch before accepting surrender terms.
Offer them the chance to get off the planet unharmed, they have terns for it, and there is still the chance of other jovians just capturing them out there.
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>>1063949
A total deathmatch is something we can finish very quickly once we take out hector. There is no reason to let them escape, besides hector none of them are strong enough to force us into a position where settling it one on one would be preferable to taking them on all at once.
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>>1063935
Unless they launched him from Avalon using a space catapult, I'm pretty sure an orbital drop requires the means of achieving orbit.
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>>1063961
Doesn't mean its anywhere near. It could easily have touched down for a bit and then jumped back to where it came from
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>>1063955
See: >>1063943
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Well, I certainly fell asleep, but it was at a good point for it. Game will resume Monday, when you blitz the dam and if you get an opportunity fight Hector one-on-one now that it's not a hideous mismatch. However, keep in mind that without significant mecha much of the fighting will likely take place inside the dam itself, where mecha cannot go. It might very well be a messy, on-foot battle.

>>1063949

Hector was with the Avalonian space forces who were at a standoff with Jovian space forces. He went planetside shortly before the Iulia Maesa showed up and the Jovians wiped out the Avalonian space forces.
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>>1063949
>>1063961
Pretty sure garma's bro wiped out all their ships in orbit. Thats what was delaying him from getting here.
>>1063964
The cats will fold as soon as the knights get wiped out and even if they don we already saw how ineffective they are at holding a position. The knights themselves will most likely be in their mechs and unable to hide out in a dam.

And quite apart from this the whole point of a blitz attack like the one we are doing is to get in and take them out before they can go to ground and dig in.
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>>1063961
>>1063963
First, this is their problem, not ours, and I'm sure that they will find their way if they get in space, as it was the Kitty-Kong plan from day one.
Second, If the lose or win, they get out of this alive and we win the dam without any more loses and problems like they activating self destruction or something, this is what I'm pointing at.
>>1063970
We Blitz, but let Hector duel us if he wants.
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>>1063955
Except that can lead them to either turtle or just blow themselves up and the dam along with it. Our entire plan relies on that dam to slim their army. Flat out wrecking them won't work, we need to break their morale. We are in a very strong position to do that since previous actions have shown us as hard, but fair. So we keep to that.
>>1063968
Hmmm, then add more to it then? If it's the difference from a choke point in lethal combat to mecha, it might be good to use strength. A show of force would work in part with the whole shock and awe plan.Either way, a seige to infiltrate would require a lot of troops due to the defensive nature, so more men would be needed.. along with mechs to protect those men.
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>>1063981
We can break their moral by flat out wrecking them. Most of them are useless cats and will give up when the knights get wrecked.
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>>1063976
Sure they totally won't just say they'll leave then go around to join up with the other army. No that would be dishonorable and Avalonians are never dishonorable except for those dozens of times they haven't been but no that would make them bad people and Avalonians can't be bad guys its just the Jovians fault for trying to fight them
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>>1063984
The surviving cats at this points are fanatics, it was already pointed out even in-game.
>>1063987
If they don't fly high into out of orbit we just shoot their terns out of the sky... And for christ sake we are talking about Hector & Dame Wayland... Not Yellow Maks, Four ears and Ford.
I'm not seeing them as "Avalonian number x", they are people as any other, and there will be good people and bad people in both sides, what you are suggesting is to expect Amos to do Fairchild levels of war crimes just because he is a jovian too...
>>1063968
Question: Do you guys and to try stealth at this again or do you prefer go there shooting everyone?
This is looking very suicidal anyway.
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>>1063998
Well even their fanatics arent especially good at their job. Also brazil attacking your enemy that you are already in the middle of a war with without announcing it is not a war crime. Its generally how war is conducted.
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>>1063998
>Killing your enemies during war
>War crimes
Anons please explain to me why you agree with his plan? Why do you listen to him?
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>>1064003
I never said that it was a war crime, but Thunder worded it as "X Avalonians did shit in the past so we should expect this from absolutely everyone" and I can't agree with this, I'm okay with the Blitz, but I don't see why not to take the duel when it could make things faster and easier for both sides, they get out (mostly) alive and we get the dam.

But Thunder think that we should never trust anyone to keep their word and should kill everyone if they don't surrender at the first chance.

As if Avalonians never kept their word in the past
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>>1063998
>>1064005
>>1064003
what are these "war crimes" you speak of?
can't commit something that never happened
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>>1064010
Non existent ones that only happen in Brazils head.
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>>1064010
I don't know what the definition of war crimes is exactly for the Jovians, but I'm almost sure that the Fairchild killing the veterans's families was a crime.
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>>1064010
damn,thought i had that gif
Anybody got that Japanese war crimes denial gif?
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>>1064016
remember they are only crimes if you get caught
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>>1064010
As long as no enemy is left alive its like War Crimes never happened
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>>1064020
Nah, it is only a war crime if lose.
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>>1064022
Ford would agree with you.
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>>1064005
Because I stand by the fact that us going inside the dam is a bad idea? We do not know the terrain, what traps they have or their ambush spots. It'd be worse than the ship mission with higher fatalities which we do not need. Cornered mice are incredibly vicious and outright slaughter can end badly for us.
Remember, any advantage we have with our machines are thrown out the window when we have to enter the actual dam. Non mech combat is incredibly lethal. Preventing that from happening even if it means a duel is better than risking falling into their traps.
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>>1064016
That isn't a war crime. That's just crime. Unnecessary brutality can be a war crime, such as a flamethrower. But Fairchild wasn't killing their families during a war, even, so it could never be a war crime. It's not a war crime if a vet comes home from deployment, retires, and gets stabbed to death in an alleyway, it's just a homicide. War crime really has a rather specific definition and parameters for what constitutes one.

And hell, no one really gives a shit about war crimes if shit gets bad enough. I'm sure most of the shit that would be a war crime is ENCOURAGED here because of how you specifically needed to get rid of Greenmen and the problems they caused.
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>>1064027
People do tend to stop giving a shit about war crimes when they are most of the way to being extinct.
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You know... The way the things are going... We are going full speed into the "Jovian Slayer" timeline.
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>>1064025
Causalities happens in war anon. Your not going to save everyone. And blitzing the base is the quickest method to finish this which is what were going after. And letting these people escape will just let them join up with the main army making them stronger. Sometimes in WAR you need to sacrifice men thats what happens in WAR
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>>1064031
>2/3rds of the galactic population dead
>still cries about fair treatment of prisoners

Fucking space hippies.
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>>1064032
>kill avalonians in a legitimate attack
>somehow as bad as killing a whole village and murder/raping your sister to death in front of you
You keep thinking that Brazil.
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>>1064034
I can't wait till they we'll try and attack the base letting the enemy escape and then get brought up on charges of treason like what happens in real life
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>>1064033
Did I say I was saving everyone? No, I was saying that in terms of the bigger picture I'd rather prevent us from being at a disadvantage. I was the one who proposed the blitz to begin with. But a siege is not quick and it is incredibly risky. If a lucky sniper shoots Simon, we are in trouble, Same With Garret or Amos.
If they are surrendering, that means they will be without arms and mecha. That means that if they return they will be back to knights with no fancy gear and taking up mecha thats alredy filled. The cat fanatics would barely help as you keep on saying they are harmless. And they are when they aren't on their home turf and prepared.
Sacrifices are fine. But sacrifice for the sake of sacrifice is a waste of resources.
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>>1064039
When you have dozens of mechs that are mobile artillery units that can easily bring down walls sieges would go a lot quicker
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>>1064038
>Why didn't you shoot soldier?
>He was retreating.
>Were you given the order to hold fire?
>No, Sir.
>So you spared an enemy combatant so he could come back next week with intel on recent enemy strength reports and a new gun?

I can see shit like that happening with the older and more jaded officers. Or just the ones who are focused on the grit of war and not the people. Dat spreadsheet of casualties, though.
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>>1064036
>Implying the mutual hate won't get to this point
>Implying that no village was killed and razed to the ground
>Implying that choosing lethal combat over giving them the chance to just walk away to space isn't one more blood stain in the book of war.
>Implying that both sides never raped village girls...In war... In Space Vietnam with unique Neko girls.
Anon... Please...
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>>1064041
Then we lose our strategic weapon to deal with the actual army. Thats the thing, Your entire plan is to kill them all at the expense of our actual goal or skilled officers. Killing 1 c rank soldier at the expensive of 1 A-B rank each in a heavily entrenched/possibly entrapped position when we will be facing HUNDREDS of mechs, is wasteful. Doing so at the high risk of losing our trump card due to bad luck is even more so.
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>>1064036
>>1064047
Also
>Implying we are going to lose to someone who have a cheaper mech without missiles.
In fact, there is nothing blocking us from going "JOVE BANZAI!!" on him and megacriting his mech to death on the first action.
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>>1064041
Thunder, we can't bring mechs to the underground, and they can probably activate selfdestruction from inside.

And you are betting on the fact that we will solve this in 5 minute tops and they won't even have time to react.

Inside their own based.

Filled with sensors and traps.

Under the earth where they can just kill us with them by exploding everything.

When they are "muh honor" avalonians.

Do you really belives so hard that we are bound to lose against Hector?
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>>1064047
>>Implying that no village was killed and razed to the ground

>tfw Ford is literally doing that as he marches right now

>Implying that choosing lethal combat over giving them the chance to just walk away to space isn't one more blood stain in the book of war.

>implying this matters in the fucking slightest

You kill until they come to you with surrender, not until they are trying to recoup their losses and rally their strength. And then you round up the leaders and put them under serious watch, arrest, or flat out kill them anyway. Just so you can get rid of any bullshit they may present down the line.
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>>1064051
And on that whole 'they will know we are here' shit. Well fuck man, thats what we WANT. Let them come back here and we can see the pussy drown. If they are smart, and considering Hector's thoughts on Ford, they would be more likely to not come to the battle field. Hell, losing the chevalier would be a good incentive to not go back on the battlefield or near Ford, who'd probably kill him to whip up his own men who do have chevaliers.
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>>1064047
You are such a giant Faggot its unbelievable, fucking everything you do is retarded
>Shit up the threads constantly with stupid fanfictions on a character you created
>Started tripfagging for no reason and act like its cool to do that
>Blog post constantly about yourself and all your troubles to get attention from other anons
>You are a giant attention whore. You asked Wong if you could steal his setting and all of his work to run your own quest instead of working on making your own universe
>You kill every joke anyone ever makes. Sure Wong writing fanfiction to piss me off was funny in the moment. You drove it in to the ground for TWENTY threads and acted like I was being unreasonable for being annoyed at it and then you have the audacity to say you'll stop but keep using the stupid name he wrote. And whenever anybody makes a joke you decide to get yourself involved and then drive that joke into the ground
>You have no understanding of anything related to war or morality. You see everything as black and white and have a childlike understanding of what motivates characters and why people are making decision. You take everything at face value and never think before making a decision
>And worst of all you have no idea how to make a write in for any character except for giant weebs and you've made Roarke sound like a giant loser dozens of times when he's supposed to be the coolest person in the galaxy
I can't stand having to deal with your steady stream for any longer I feel like I'm going insane because of you
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>>1064047
>>1064053
>implying mutual hate matters a single fuck when 500 of them are coming to kill the shit out of us reight this second

If these fucks are so thin skinned that they consider a regular military attack to have the same level of insult as murdering a village of civilians then maybe they never should have gotten into a mech in the first place.
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>>1064055
And I bet people are going to come and call me the bad guy now and act like none of this is true and I'm being an douche who can't see his own faults, but trust me I'm being as blunt and honest as I possibly can right now
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>>1064071
I still remember when you were the most annoying namefag
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>>1064075
It's a good thing we don't have names then, eh?
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>>1064075
And I deserved whatever shit I got, but at least you can say I got better
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>>1064078
Wait, you're NOT playing a character?
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>>1064079
Certain parts are me and the rest is me taken to an extreme, I'm alot more subdued in my life
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>>1064057
>implying this matters in the fucking slightest
You know what... You're right, it doesn't matter so much, its not like someone will care much about all the blood spill that could not happened if we didn't baited the avalonians into going "muh honor" again...

>>1064079
Wait, he isn't playing a character?
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>>1064081
Oh... alright then.
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>>1064083
>its not like someone will care much about all the blood spill that could not happened if we didn't baited the avalonians into going "muh honor" again

Exactly. The Jovians won't give a shit. Them Beltway niggas won't give a shit. The Martians will fucking LOVE it. Them Moonmen will like it because of how they treat the Lady as a religious figure. And the Avalonians will see it as their people dying for their cause and be proud of them for giving it their all.

The Avalonians will hate the Jovians and Martians regardless of whether we are lenient or not.
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>>1064084
Granted I vote for decision I believe is in character and push for in character decisions even if they aren't smart since they're true to the character. But we're digressing from the point I'm making. I'm sick of Brazil's shit the fact that he's going to end up causing someone we care about to die with his shitty ideas
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>>1064071
My problem really isn't that, it's your single minded focus and missing the forest for the trees. Our goal is to safely secure the dam so it can be used. What is your plan? Damage the dam in case they turtle.. which is very possible. You are so into dealing with them all that you miss the entire goal of the operation.
While BR is too romantic for me, Dueling if it allows a clean capture AFTER the initial blitz is not a bad option. Logically, there is no reason for either knight to rejoin ford because he is a known nutter and not trust worthy. However, to them we are a model knight, even if jovian. Any who rejoin will likely be lower grade with no mech support(because why the hell would I give them their mechs back?). The reason why I butt heads with BOTH of you is that for one reason or another, you both become incredibly focus on one thing and won't stop even if the bigger picture says it is not a good idea. A trait I share at times as well.
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>>1064087
I say we take the knights and put them somewhere else
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>>1064087
Honestly this is just the straw that broke the camel's back its less about the choice itself and more about being sick of him and what he does.
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>>1064090
Thats fine. You can show disdain for someone.I'm not expecting us to be all friendly. Hell, I enjoy butting heads with people. Keeps me sharp. Just keep it to disdain for him and not spite voting against him if an idea has valid points. I want us to win splendidly here so we can drown so many fren-I mean Avalonians. Then shoot them when they are all together. It'd be a nice, team building exercise for us all. Plus, us doing well here while Fairchild is away just means more merit for us and less for her! We could really put the nails to her.
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>>1064062
Fucking noice
Still a filthy namefag though
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>>1064097
And your 100% right, honestly if it would stop other anons from doing it I would gladly stop using mine
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>>1064062
as much as I like that Brazil is willing to help people with their mech problems, Alot of this is true.

Really, Brazil's problem is that he's way to fucking enthusiastic. It's great that he loves the quest and wants to contribute whenever possible, but holy shit does he go way overboard and most of what he tends to contribute are cringy writeins and godawful fanfiction.
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>>1064102
In a way, if Thunderbird could be considered the Id, BRanon would be the SuperEgo.
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>>1064062
>I was just joking with Avalonanon, and I didn't force anyone to join in or something, or could and can just ignore.
>There was a reason at first, but then it got fun because of the reactions of other anons to the constant shitposting, and then the tourney began and I just forgot about it because I got bored and started to help people with their mechs... then I realized that I could guess the past from a few posters by the things they usually said, and that there was no point into going back to anon because they would still notice that it was me because of the nature of /qst/ IDs and long threads.
>I just laugh at most of their reactions to random things I say about myself, and enough of them seems to go along the crazyness of the ATT whoring to bait you into going beserk, so it just makes things even more fun.(Okay this is autistic I admit)
>Other anons aked him if they could use his universe to play PnP RPG, so I just took it one step further because I was in full fanboy mode on that time and couldn't wait for more MSPQ, I was not trying to "Steal his work" or something.
>It was for like 5 or 6 threads... But I admit that I went to far there, I asked if I could keep the name or should change it, but I believe that Wong said that he didn't care or something, and I ended up keeping it and forgetting about it... About other jokes I can't say for certain that I "always get involved" or something, but I'm sorry if I really ruined so many things, I'm really sorry.
>Too long to explain here, but I admit being black and white for most things even if I see people as shades of gray... But I don't take people at face value, just tend to trust them until they do shit first... If they don't seems shady from the start... I don't have a exactly separated and complex vision of war as something on its own, so it depends much on the situation.
>My character is a giant weeb on purpose, and I'm sorry if what you said about Roarke is right, so maybe Wong should had just ignored my reply.

>>1064081
I'm much less emotionally attached and openly weeb in life, I would take much less risks if anything here were serious, but MSPQ always had that feel of being a anime where exaggerated heroism is possible, so I go crazy here because of that.
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>MFW left thread alone awhile

So, Plan of attack is to have a two-pronged assault at the dam consisting of Mechs and infantry. Victory condition is to take out the leaders, either through combat or via a duel. Try to minimize casualties on both sides
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>>1064111
Pretty much. Honestly, in the long term, keeping the likes of Hector alive while ending the Likes of Maria and Ford can help us out once the Green Lady is cooked. Means the Martians won't try and make Avalon islamic if they can defend themselves.
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>>1063418
Before I go to sleep... This was a good Idea, but I don't believe that it could solve things on its own, as any cat hero would probably just be called a traitor sellout.
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Also
How many of you are upset because of my name? What should I change it for? Going anon is a possibility but at this point I would probably just get recognized anyway... What do you guys want me to do? Suggest names if you want... and I know that this is 4chan so I can already see the shitposting coming...
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>>1064130
namefagging has never really bothered me when it's been used for good purposes. such as BR's help with our mech calculations. However, I have seen it used to just stir up trouble too many times, so I will stop using a name after this post. Its purpose has been fulfilled.
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>>1064154
>tfw the best namefag of this quest, the one who didn't do anything wrong, sacrifices is own name for the better of us all...
Live on... You glorious bastard...

Do it really matter, though? We are still going to keep some sort of indentity until the end of the Tourney... As we still have battles to fight and mechas to pilot.

Maybe I show just call myself BRanon, as that is what you guys call me
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>>1064130
Not care because in the end, as we all travel through the endless void of suffering, torment and anguish we call life, the opinions that other people on 256/64chan hold of you matter literally nothing, and should never get in the way of you enjoying yourself.

Of course, there's a time and place for everything, and a quest thread on 4chan probably isn't the place to roleplay, talk about your familial situation *cough* Brazil *cough*, or get unrealistically mad at someone you'll never actually meet and who's personal actions in no way affect your life beyond providing an opinion you don't like, and then complain about them and all their opinions you don't like just to make yourself more angry about it *cough* Thunder *cough*

You both think about things in different ways that you both go about expressing in equally cringy yet unique ways and there are issues with both (Brazil doesn't ever want to admit he's wrong or that a differing opinion could be right, and Thunder always wants to make himself right by saying other people are wrong.) You both need to work on being more flexible and admitting everyone has good things to say sometimes.

tl;dr you both need to learn how to chill out and enjoy Wong's quest without things you don't like getting in the way. We're all here to have fun, bringing up how your family's in a bad way or stewing in your anger over how someone holds a different opinion than you doesn't help you have fun.

Just remember why you're here. Whenever you think to say something, ask yourself if it has relevance to the quest. If it doesn't, don't post it.

Of course, some of this is what I think someone should do in this situation (the last sentence of paragraph 3, the first sentence of paragraph 6 since I've gone past getting angry at stuff over the internet, paragraph 7 because I don't debate the correct course of action) and I don't actually practice it for one reason or another. Everything I do practice basically boils down to "Don't give a shit, do what you want, ignore things you don't like" but I really do think you both should really cool your shit on all the irrelevant stuff you say in every thread.

And I don't want to pick on anyone, but Thunder, man, however cancerous Brazil can be you double it when you lose your shit over it. I know you said you play a caricature of yourself, but there's no way all of this was you playing pretend. You're both to blame for childish "drama" on 4chan (god I hate myself for even typing that) but your intentional or natural abrasiveness exacerbates the issue far more than Brazil's stubbornness does.

I'd say both of you just ignore each other from now on. If not to stop annoying every other anon, to help each of you enjoy MSPQ as much as you can.
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>>1064162
btw don't even try to say anything to me about this or argue with me, I'm just going to ignore whoever does. All of this is my opinion and just typing it made me want to kill myself more than usual, I literally won't be able to make myself argue about people "starting shit" on fucking 4chan. Consider my opinion, accept what I say could help, just flat out ignore me. I don't care. What you do with what I say only affects you.
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>>1064159
i will take up my title when it's needed again
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>>1064076
If it was up to me we wouldn't even have these fucking colored bar things. I miss being truly anonymous.
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>>1064062
All of these are indeed valid points

>>1064071
You aren't a bad guy thunder i mean you can be a total cunt at times, but who isn't?
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>>1064130
Just go back to brazillian anon Christ
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>>1064186
>not using eight-thousand proxies and a dynamic IP changer
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>>1064186
Ehhh, in a way it does help prevent people from vote brigading or consensus cracking, which has been a case in many older quests. I have seen my share of punks doing that shit.
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Too quiet.

I'm going to start shit.

Zeon Mechs are ugly as Sin.
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>>1064668
Your lineage is ugly as sin.

Anywho, got some advice for any duel with Hector looking over the data from our last fight. He's got about a 2 point lead on us in terms of rolls. Now, we may very well be on the cusp of getting a boost to our skills after the Squillia fight(like to think we've been edging ever since Hector and had time to train), but this time around all our weapons are more accurate. Our lance, our guns, our missiles, ect. If the verniers come in and are indeed enough to push us to -3, then we will be on even footing. Our mech is, in general, much tougher. If his axes are 8 kills, then not only would a block prevent damage from them, but we can also parry with our lance and it's +2.
In terms of strategy, it might be a good idea to sacrifice sheer range for the first strike in melee. Use the lance to deal with the active shield and possibly chop off his head, then use all our missiles. All of them. With all the luck we can. If we reach +8, we would have a +3 MV pool and 7 luck. With the missiles, that is a added accuracy of 13. High or low, missiles will hit. If we get a difference 10, well.. GG. That's 5 crits with one being a mega crit.
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For those of you curious, here was my attempt at statting Dann of Thursday in Mekton

Note I purposefully excluded thrusters since I'm not quite done with it yet. I know Dann has another sword, a barrier of sorts, as well as the GIANT FUCKOFF BLADE ON IT'S BACK that I need to figure out, but this does give an idea of how ludicrous the costs must have been to build this thing.

Heavy Striker Torso: C/S/K 10, 5 tons
Heavy Striker Head: C/S/K 5, 2.5 tons
Heavy Striker L. Arm: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons
Left Hand: 2 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Heavy Striker R. Arm: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons
Right Hand: 2 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Heavy Striker L. Leg: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons
Heavy Striker R. Leg: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons

Armor: Medium Striker (4 SP, 4 CP, 2 tons) on all locations

Frame & armor cost: 67
Frame & armor weight: 30.5

Main Sensors (Head): Cost 4, Space 1, Kills 2, 1 ton

Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 CP, 2 Spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton

Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces). Stereo (0.1 CP), Deluxe Antitheft Codelock (0.4 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP)

Frame + options cost: 75.9
Frame + options weight: 32.5

Armament: Sword: 8k, 4 tons, 0 WA, Thrown, Quick, 6 Spaces, 11.6 CP


Bioenergy Core:(x1.5) 131.25
Virtual Controls:(x0.05) 137.81
Re-Entry Evironmental Protection: (x0.1) 151.59
Thought Control: (0.5x) 227.39
techno-Organic (0.5x) 341.28
Jet mode:(0.3x) 443.66
Metaform Wings(0.05x) 465.84
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And i finallly caught back up again. Woo! Just marathoned through evertything since psyche-16 in 3 days. Wong can be a wordy little bastard sometimes.

And of course, we are deep in the shit, as usual. This assault looks like a mayor pain in the neck. Duelling would be an attractive alternative, except for the fact that Hector is no pushover. He has better stats, and the mechs are comparable enough that it's an even fight. I hate even fights, especially if your strategy depends on you winning one.
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>>1064767
ya did the modifiers wrong for the total thing. See, for the big ones, you add them all up together, THEN multiply. Not do them separately. So it would be a x3 multiplier.
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>>1064797
Ah, I thought I was doing something wrong.

I'll fix it later when I finish the thing.
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>>1064784
Well, losing the duel means the Delphinus will be under repairs until the final defense, most likely and force us to raid their facility. The plus side is that while Equal, the Delphinus has some good edges to it against hector. His axes seem to be AP and Quick, but low enough in kills for us to parry. So if we keep parrying, we will take no attrition damage. The delphinus also sports some very accurate weapons. Like I said, melee duel, giving up our range advantage to get the first hit will definitely help. One action of our lance, and then fire all the missiles with all the luck. Make Oda proud.
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>>1064726
>>1064828

I'm okay with this plan, but we can't ignore the possibility of having to fight something without luck after this... I know this sounds crazy as we should have no more problems after this duel, but we might get surprise by something, like having to rescue the Bettas or something...

Also, what should we offer them to bait them into accepting this? Going to space unharmed should they win? I don't think that Hector really wants to join Ford on his kamikaze attack, but where else he has to go if the jovians have total control over space?
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>>1064958
It doesn't matter if he wants to or not, this is the military you do what your told to do you don't get to choose.
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>>1064966
Dutch is suggesting calling to a duel outside, if he doesn't want to he can just keep being holed up in there, as our mechs can't get inside.
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>>1064958
Well, he is the one most capable of harming us and it is not like we are the only SOUL pilot. Simon and Garret are both capable and I am sure the last touches are being put on all 3 machines. Also there is Keith too I guess.
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>>1064767
Other people are making interesting bio-mechs from anime.
And I'm making shitty quad-leg tanks.
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>>1065046
Quad tanks are cool, after seeing the rolling thunder I've been playing around with tank builds myself, the extra armor is really handy.
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>>1065063
Yeah, the SP is really useful, especially when you think about how it essentially lets you buy armor for the price and weight of armor 2 sizes lower. It could mesh pretty well with Beta/Gamma Armor too, because then you could essentially get, say, Light Heavy Beta Armor for 7.5 CP instead of 10.5 and Gamma armor for 10 instead of 14.
It's just too bad tracks are comparatively useless in Wong's setting.

And that transformations are pretty bad. I tried experimenting with them using my Quad Tank. I managed to get 1 transformation that gave it tracked movement instead of walking for ~45 CP, and that was just the 30% cost plus the tracks. The gun seems pretty good. It did take me all of 15 minutes to make the mech though, it really simple.
http://pastebin.com/hLeDj5uM
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>>1065063
>>1065119
Oops, forgot the pic that inspired me.
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>>1065122
http://pastebin.com/cqRcVfaA
Heres the hybrid-to-tank transformer I was talking about, the 140 cp version was waaaay to squishy since it had to use light weight and ultra light servos, this 280 CP versions much better.
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>>1065046

But yours is more likely to be used.
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>>1065167
Eh, not really. I already schilled one mech to Wong, I don't want to dump whatever designs I come up with on him. Maybe if I come up with something that I think would actually be really useful.
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Out of curiosity, what's the general impression of how Wong is going to run the tournament? Will he be writing the posts himself, or will the players?
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>>1065189
I think he's probably going to write it, he is the QM after all. I don't know how he's going to do the rolls though, there's no way everyone's going to be able to make it for the fights.
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>>1065194
he'll probably do the rolls himself out of thread and then write up the fight afterward.
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>>1065046
I'm just making Dann for fun.

I also wanted to try making Gunleon, but I couldn't figure out how to represent the Giant Great Wrench in Mekton. or anything Sphere Bullshit related for that matter.
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>>1065189
He'll probably do the write ups, but let the creators duke it out.
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>>1065233
I'm making the tanks for fun too. It's fun, but they just seem so uninteresting compared to what everyone else is doing.
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>>1065242
Make a tank with every defensive system you can feasibly fit on one mech, mega heavy gamma armor, some sort of reactive shield, a standard shield or 2, and then give it 1 fuckhuge cannon and maybe 2 small spammy beam guns
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>>1065249
That would just be upgrading the Rolling Thunder to ludicrous levels of expensive though. In retrospect, starting with as big a tank as possible wasn't a good idea. But I do have an idea for what I'm going to do now.
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>>1065216
If I remember right we roll for our characters
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>>1065277
Honestly, I hope he rolls everything off screen and just writes the results since there are going to be a ton of fights going on, and having the players roll for everything risks dragging some fights out longer than others. After the fight he can show the roll results if he wants to.
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>>1065270
true, say speaking of defensive systems, I don't think I've seen anything with beam refract cloaking , it subtracts 1 kill from all incoming beam damage
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>>1065189
From what he said it seems like he'll let us do the rolling and choosing of actions, but write what happens like always.
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>>1065309
problem with that is that I'm usually only here for an hour after work before I go off and take a nap mid-session. Chances are I'm likely to miss whenever the Libra's up to bat.
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>>1065314
Yeah, me too. I'll have no idea if I'll be able to make it to the session until the beginning of the week. I have been getting more midday working hours, which is good, but I might not. Like tonight, I have to be in bed by around 11 or 12 because I start work at 8 am.
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>>1065314
I know, but in this cases Wong would probably assume control and try to keep the fightstyle as faithful to the character as he can...
We could also leave some instructions on what we have in mind on that sense too.

But we may be overreacting, we should wait him to be more clear on what he has in mind for us.
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>>1065376
Either way, dibs on fighting you first! I desire fisticuffs of the highest order to start things off.
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>>1065467
I'm not going to dissapoint you senpai, BRING IT ON!
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so... I'm designing a 1/5 scale car mech that will act as a submecha cockpit to a larger mech... what I'm wondering is can I keep the weapons systems on the car mech available for use once its slotted into the larger mech? If not I'll just remove the weapons.
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>>1065536
say... I was reading through the advanced manual... there's a Gun transformation... it turns a mech into an upscaled version of one of its weapons...If I added this to that mecha rider I made with the 20K cannon... the weapon goes up to corvette scale which multiplies kills and range by 10... it'd be a 200K cannon with a 9000m range... and gives it an extra +2WA, no fucking way that's legal for a measly 0.4 cost multiplier... I suppose you could do it if you limited it to 1 shot...
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>>1065723
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>>1065723
If you're making it Corvette scale, don't forget its CP cost is multiplied by 25.
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>>1064668
Much like yourself.
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>>1065742
Reading the transformation rule... its a temporary transformation so it only has the transformation modifier without the scaling modifier apparently...

Heres the description from the manual
"GUN: By realigning servos into a massive
barrel and firing mechanism, and by optimizing
energy conduits into a massive linear
accelerator, a Mekton can actually
transform itself into a gigantic cannon.
Such a transformation most commonly
yields a huge Beam Weapon, but transformed
Projectile weapons are also possible.
Once transformed, the mecha treats
one weapon (or one set of Linked, identical
weapons) as being of the next Scale up for
the purposes of range and damage"
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>>1065762
Ohhh, it's one of the Stupid Mekton Tricks. Yeah, I think those were intended to be completely overpowered and/or silly.
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>>1065766
Ah, didn't realize what section I was in, that explains it then...
it really would be the Hyaku shiki's Mega Launcher if I added that to the BoomStick, guess its time to make the hyaku shiki then.
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So I made this for the sole purpose of making a Starship Scale Tank, but there's no way I'm going to have time to do that tonight. So here it is, the fattest tank to ever live. I think I've outdone myself with it though.
http://pastebin.com/NDz3hJjF
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>>1065792
Oh, and I won't have the time to read it tonight, but could someone explain how to go about making a multi-person mech?
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>>1065792
ok so... multiply kills and range by 100 and your cp cost by 500...
276000 CP to upscale that to starship scale...

>>1065808
I think it's just multiple cockpits and then an extra mech action and a -1 mecha reflexes penalty for each extra pilot...
so 5 pilots would give you a -4 MR penalty but you'd get...6 actions per turn???
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>>1065824
Yeah, it's just I have to get to bed in like 20 minutes and this took me over an hour. I may tone it back to Corvette though, I forgot length is kills x 1.5, so this tank at Corvette scale would be 330 meters long. That seems plenty big enough. At Starship it would be 3.3 km long. I overestimated the scale in the top left corner.

I'm totally adding more pilots by the way, I still have 7 Spaces in the torso.
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>>1065824

"EXTRA ACTIONS {OPTIONAL RULE):
Should the designer so wish, mecha with
extra crew may take extra actions; each
extra crew member {after the first) may add
1 Action to the total number of Actions
the mecha can take in a turn {as always, the
mecha may still not move more than its
maximum MA in a turn). However, if extra
Actions are being used, all crewmembers’
MR will be reduced by the number of crew;
a 4-pilot mecha would have +3 Actions (5
total) but all 4 crew members would be at
-4 to their MR."

ok so the first guy only counts for 1 action if you have multiple crew on a mech.
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>>1065846
Actually, are there any crew rules for ships and stuff? I think that would make more sense than people piloting it.
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>>1065867
oh I think there is, pages 76 though 80 in the core book...
Here's a pic of the page
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>>1065895
Thanks. I'll get to figuring how to to apply that to a massive tank tomorrow.

I hope they add separate MV rules for tanks in the Zeta Zero. It doesn't really make sense that turrets on tanks have trouble moving because the entire tank is heavy. The Challenger 2 weighs 60 Tons and can spin its turret all the way around in about 10 seconds. It makes sense a larger mech would be less responsive, but it doesn't for a tank using a turret.

Anyway, bed now.
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This late in the thread, nobody will notice if I say that the people making comparisons between Fairchild and a Slaaneshi cultist are right, she's developed a lot as a villain since, but initially the thought was "I wonder how the stereotypical ERP character archetype would survive in real life."

Also, Thunderbird, BR...the truth is, both of you are frequently wrong, and try to take Roarke in a direction contrary to the general vein he goes in. I know this, I expect it, I compensate for it, and I like it and I like you. You're both necessary participants and I truly fear one or the other of you ragequitting over the other.
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>>1066198
how are you going to be handling the Space Jam fights? Have the players roll, or are you doing it yourself.
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>>1066198
>stereotypical ERP character archetype

Which kind?
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>>1066198
Aye Wong, working on a side project and wanted to see if it could go places. The Pelican, a Mech Rider designed to get supplies and mechs to their destination either through planetary re-entry or exiting the atmosphere with it's meaty thrusters. Baby can carry like FIVE Dutchmen on it! Also, check out the Steelhead here. http://pastebin.com/LYvr10SG
Made a betta without the stealth, but full of tricks still.
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>>1066198
I'm really sorry if I do that sometimes... but since Thunder first pointed it out 10 threads ago or so I've been much more cautious when suggesting write-ins for Roarke... Even if I might be failing at that too.

Also... Thank you for the consideration Wong, but Thunder got here first and he has the priority, if things come to this point I would quit to prevent him doing so, its sad for me, but I believe that it would be fair.

Also, I know I'm not perfect and that I may have went too far too much times, and I don't hate Thunder for pointing it out, in fact I admire that fire he got in his heart to fight for the things he belives in even when he feels that everyone is against him, and the common sense he expresses when he don't fall into the madness pits I sometimes dig when going too far over something... But I feel that he takes it too serious sometimes and blames me for things like "Making Roarke worse" when I'm not the one who gets to choose what gets in or not, or "making bad fanfiction" when I'm not even talking about him or any main character... And then I feel bad for making he go into "big texts and caps lock" mode by just shiposting... It wasn't my intention to get him so seriously mad just with bad jokes, stupid write-ins and cringe fanfiction...
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>>1066314
You leaving the quest will do nothing but make me feel guilty. I should get preference since I was here first thats bullshit we're all equal members of the quest. And I don't care that you have a different opinion than me, plenty of anons don't share my point of view and I argue and debate with them. I just get passionate when I argue and I argue because I care alot about the characters and I don't want people to miss something in a decision and then we make a bad decision and somebody dies. If we just followed my point of view Roarke would most likely be dead now and the quest would be over. I still am annoyed with you and I do mean what I said, but you shouldn't leave the quest just because I disagree with you.
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>>1066314
>>1066339
I swear you two represent the extremes of questing in terms of player approach to a quest.

Of course that's just from my perspective and I could easily be talking out of my ass,
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>>1066361
And there it is
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>>1066314
>>1066339
There we go, agree to disagree and no point kicking anyone out. Ideas as always should be based on merit. If Br has a good idea, it gets merit. Same With Thunderbird. Now let's all get along, beat a knight down, take his base, and use it to drown thousands of enemy soldiers.

Also, got an auction list here for the things we can sell. Though if possible, I want to get some info from Bruce about the first mate. Maybe get some data digging on Cabot. After all, my one thought on getting at Fairchild is to go after Cabot by saying that a good relationship with Jupiter requires handing over our brother's killer. Need proof to pin it on her.
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>>1066214

If you're here, you get to roll. I'll be announcing the day's matchups in advance, hopefully. The first few days will probably be a bit awkward, and then we'll get the kinks worked out. The tournament was originally a player suggestion, but it's actually become VERY plot important.

>>1066218

Let's think about that for a minute. Starting with her positive traits. Hermione Fairchild is pretty much THE standard ERP domme character minus having a horsecock.

General Hermione Fairchild is a bit of a Mary Sue when you just look at her this way. First and foremost, she's tremendously confident. She's a very talented pilot, as you know from the 16-Psyche logs. She attained command early in her career. She's extremely influential and powerful and controls the first Mekong-class super-battleship without putting in the decades of thankless grindwork you'd expect. She's attractive, kinky, is good at winning trust and affection from people she really likes. She's rich, not just from inheritance but from the things she does on the side like invest in the megacorps. She's a lesbian with zero interest in men, but despite a personal taste for male traits she's apparently willing and able to work with them. She has sexy maids. Things tend to go well for her, well enough that she can seduce girls half her age...

...Except, that's where the problems start. Just like her archetype, she's bitchy, haughty, aware of her own superiority and grinds it in other people's faces. Just like her archetype, she'll try for EVERY cute girl, from the ones who are legitimately attracted to her to ones who work with her because it's their job to ones who just see her as a friend...all the way to random teenagers she meets at a wedding on Mars whose personality and orientation she knows nothing about. She puts too much trust in the people she sleeps with, because a character in that archetype usually doesn't get betrayed (I assume both partners would have to agree to it and such). Those are the downsides that come purely from her archetype, the ones that come from how that archetype interacts with the real world are worse.

First, there are a lot more women who just flat-out aren't interested in girls. A minority of women are interested in women at all, and of them a minority are interested in women her age. A still smaller minority are interested in women so aggressive. An even smaller minority are interested in being haremed. Beyond that, in real life there are consequences for the kind of behavior she engages in. Vengeful husbands, fathers, older brothers, and putting them out of the way alienates potential targets. Some of the girls she sleeps with do it for the money or power she possesses...but she still has that confidence and believes absolutely that she can have whoever she wants, and when she doesn't get them she reacts vengefully, hence her fixation on Clemmy.
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>>1066369

This, and unlike in a normal game I can ignore any ideas without merit. Frequently even when I like someone's answer to a >[What Say?] I'll doctor it up and edit it to fit better with Roarke's or Amos' or Caesar's personality. One thing I believe is that the same line can come out very differently depending on who says it, too. "M'lady" is a lot less cringy coming from Prince Charming of Handsomeberg than it is from Fedora Frank who wears sweatpants to the FLGS, weighs 400lbs, and has loud arguments about Yu-Gi-Oh. Roarke, as a charismatic space pirate, can occasionally say something dorky or cheesy and have it come off as endearing rather than offputting.
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>>1066358
>One is a moralfag, the other is a kill-them-all paranoiac
>One is usually jovial, the other is often vitriolic
>One goes all-out with his enthusiasm, the other reins it in
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>>1066381
Hey, I'm only half those words
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>>1066381
>Together they fight crime
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>>1066378
It does help with the story telling and makes interactions smoother. It's hard to get into a writer's head, so this works quite well and produces something quite enjoyable.
>>1066370
I may have to paint up some versus pics for the match up pictures, or a divider because damn do I have a batch of good fightin' music for this event.
Also, you just described my one ex if she had less good bits to her.
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>>1066339
I'm not going to leave the quest because you disagree with me, but I certanly would do that to dissuade you from ragequitting, and even if we are equal members of this quest you're still my senpai and I'm very grateful to you by all your great suggestions in this quest and for being so important for making Roarke as cool as he is today.

But if there is no danger of losing you... Then there is no danger of you losing me.

Also, I'm sorry for being such a huge faggot... and extra sorry for making you feel so bad because of it, if you get mad again please just point it out in time so we can disscuss on the spot instead of letting things accumulate over dozens of threads again...

I love you too, you crazy edgelord murderhobo.
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>>1066370

All of this, of course, comes before the ways in which she's an individual rather than an archetype. Her tragic childhood love for Christina LeChance (who became Christina LeChance Starwind), and the fact that she referenced sleeping with at least one teacher at the Academy which obviously didn't last, her attempts to start a relationship with a co-worker on 16-Psyche that were foiled by Gerhard Biggs getting that co-worker pregnant with Simon, being friendzoned by Clemmy for literally years, and all of the spiritual calluses that come from clawing her way to her current position by any means necessary. She has many, many reasons to be a profoundly bitter woman, as you've seen. It doesn't help that she was slightly too young to serve in the War, nobody ever recruited her for a team like Orange Pekoe and there were far fewer opportunities to gain the kind of glory she feels she deserved in the post-War era.

And all of THIS is before everything that Roarke Starwind, who she dismissed as the "troublesome brother who won't amount to anything but could make a good scapegoat" did to her. That in and of itself would make for a very long post full of grudges.
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>>1066403
..do tell? I feel like I need a list just so I can find new ways to make her Reee.
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>>1066403
And then her lackey killed his brother. Boy oh boy was that a mistake.

Wait, does Roarke know the First Mate worked for Fairchild?

Hold on, let me reign in my drunken stupor and try to remember quest details.
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>>1066409
The first mate piloted a SOUL Machine and taunted us for not being able to catch her. It's obvious enough. Part of why I want to close the net on her.
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>>1066370
Are you planning on randomly rolling the matchups? Choosing them yourself? Or letting us go crazy by agreeing(and fighting over it) on who should fight who?

You should put the "...I don't even belive I'm going to win the first fight..."-people together to secure at least half of them surviving the first round, or they will probably keep being depressive about "not having a chance from the begining" for the rest of the Tourney.
I'm looking at you Garret and Victor
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>>1066403
Does Fairchild care about having kids someday? Or are the (partial)Clones enough for her?
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>>1066431

You don't know.
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>>1066436
Just for curiosity... How much anime do you usually watch? Do you care about following the anime seasons or do you just watch random shows as they get your attention?
And do you have a more eccletic taste or do you usually just watch X types of anime?
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>>1066447

Random shows as they get my attention, really. Seasons come and go.

I can't sit through slice of life, ecchi, and moe, other than that it all depends on what grabs me. To be honest, I became a mecha fan relatively recently, a year or two ago, I always thought giant robots were cool but was more of a fantasy fan. Then one day, I decided "fuck it I will marathon these gundams", so I did.
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So, i've been working a lot with the ATM lately (was done too late for the tournament, unfortunately), and while most of it is simple enough, i just don't get remote control systems.

It lists a price for the damn things and a size category, but does not indicate the size, the amount of kills or stuff like the MA. Am i missing something, or is there an errata somewhere that haven't found?
Also, the control multiple stat seems to be made specificly to punish people for taking many small drones, which is kind of annoying if you want to recreate stuff like the kshatriya.
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>>1066414
Before I forget... With duel or no, the most possible result is that we are going to adquire the Knights and other mecha that the rebels currently have(if they don't blow up those)... There two advantage we can take from this:
First, we can use the Knights to boost our numbers and maybe even as a prize for our brave pilots that are still piloting Bluegills, using their higher ground mobility and heavier build in our advantage... And if you guys think that their weapons are crap and that even a pumpkinseed is better, we could probably apply Pumpkinseed II coversion kits on them for changing that, or just giving them handheld spare equipment from our other mecha.
The Bluegills are the other good part of this, because we can probably adapt them into pirate Bluegills wihout having Bahamut suspect us for it, as we can just blame it on the rebels and have Irina keep her mouth shut about modfying them into flying mecha to surprise the Avalonians even more.

Or I'm just crazy again.

...But this could be a good chance to give some attention to those Qul'ri soldiers who risked their lives to stop Simon, and maybe giving a chance to the "Cat heroes" idea that was suggested before.

>>1066528
Most fan of mecha that I know also hate moe, and I was surprised to see that you watched konosuba... There are some people that wouldn't even give that a chance because of the "cute" visual.

But I have to admit that you already sound like some mecha anime veteran... You marathoned ALL the gundams in just one or two years?!

(Also, is my "Custom Knights and Pirate Bluegills plausible? Or is it technically impossible?)
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>>1066540
Wong said that this is the last thread to show your mecha... Its not too late, as you will still have two or more threads to work the details out after this...

Do you still want to get in? What do you have in mind?

And about the drones... I won't have a answer for you yet, as I didn't study this... But drones won't be allowed in the tourney if you still care about that.
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>>1066548
You got the most recent Space Jam pastebin? I want to make sure my mech is up to date.
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>>1066548
when it comes to Victor, he believes he has as much a chance as anyone. I, on the other hand, can be a bit of a pessimist
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>>1066548

Whohoo, right on time then! Thhe drones aren't meant for this mecha, i know how rare they are in universe. Honestly, my mech is probably less technologically advanced then the rest of the pack, save for one little detail. I'll post it right away, but the basic gist of the Gyrfalcon is that it is a very fast, long range mecha based entirely around solid projectiles and missiles.

And yes, i double checked the ammo weight. Even rounded it up for those of us who aren't using excel sheets and can somehow stand being so inaccurate.
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>>1066590

Gyrfalcon Reconaissance / fast attack mecha

Head: striker cost 4/ kills 3/ space 6, 2 tons
Torso: striker, cost 6/ kills 5/ space 8, 3 tons
L. arm: striker, C/S/K 4, 1.5 tons
R. arm: striker, C/S/K 4, 1.5 tons
l. hand: CP 2, 1 Space, 1K, 0.5 tons
R. hand: CP 2, 1 Space, 1K, 0.5 tons
L. leg: striker, C/S/K 4, 1.5 tons
R. leg: striker, C/S/K 4, 1.5 tons
Pod: m. striker: cost 4/ space 8

Armour: striker at head and torso (3 cp, 3 sp, 1,5 tons), light on all other locations (2 cp, 2 sp, 1 ton)

Main sensors: medium sensors (10 cp, 1 space, 2 kills, 1 ton)
Backup sensors: are for pussies

Weapons:
2x meteor cannon (torso): range 450, WA 0, 4k, 20 rounds, 7 cp, 4 spaces, 2,5 tons
“paint stripper” machine gun (left arm): range 300, WA +2, 1k, 25 rounds, BV 3, 9,5 cp, 3,5 space, 0,7 tons
point defense gun (head): range 150, WA 0, 1k, 50 rounds, BV 3, Phalanx, 1,5 cp, 1,5 spaces, 0,8 tons

Assault loadout (standard)
2x heavy missile launcher (handheld): range 500, WA +2, 8k, 4 missiles, 6,2 cp, 3,2 space, 2,5 tons


Additional systems: Head cockpit with escape pod (3 cp, 1 space), Stereo (0,1 cp), deluxe security lock (0,4 cp), spotlights (0,2 cp), liftwire (0,3 cp), head Head Advanced Sensor Package (10 cp, 2 space), Pod Radio/radar analyser (5 cp, 1 space), torso meteor cannon cross link (2 cp)


Mulitipliers
-hot powerplant (x 0,9)
-2x metaform wings (legs and arms) (x 1,1) Allows arms and legs to form into wings. Lose the advantage being arms and legs while transformed (holding handheld items/walking) but add +100 meters per set

Thrusters and speed: 4 in each leg, 7 in pod. Moves 600 meters per turn in flight. If used, each set of wings adds 100 meters. 15 cp (calced before multipliers)


Total Weight: 32,5 tons
After weight reduction: 29 tons, giving -2 MV

Total cost: 138,6

I know it is not the most cp efficient mecha in the world, but i went for style over efficiency (or durability. Or lethality) with this one.As such, it is a very clear reflection of it's pilot/designer. Or is he a reflection of his mech?
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>>1066567
http://pastebin.com/pZtRmbWS
Here it is
>>1066576
Thats exactly what I'm talking about... Don't be so down anon, you have as much chance of winning as almost anyone, we don't know who you'll be up against or how you're going to roll... For all we know you could megacrit the valkyrie on the first turn, then dodge the Lightning for a whole turn and win a fight against the the Rolling Thunder by destroying its turret with your AP quick lance and dodging the missiles...

Why does every albino anime character either looks like a edgelord or have to be really gay?!

>>1066590
Send the pastebin, I'll check it when I wake up.
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>>1066639

And i already fucked up, since that is clearly a medium striker head.
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>>1066639
No sacrificing kills for spaces anon, please use space reduction on the weapons instead...
I will get this mech in a few hours becaus I really need to sleep, but a striker level mech costing so much sounds fishy.

Also, no hotpowerplant too, its not impossible, but pirates doesn't like it because its suicidal, so its forbidden for the tourney.
>>1066646
>Forgot pic
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>>1066649

>no sacrificing kills
>no hot powerplant

to bad, that is going to take some time to fix.

As for the cost, it's mostly the weapons loadout and sensors.
50 for the frame + 29,5 for the options (mostly all the extra sensor options) + 37,4 for the weapons + 14,7 for the thrusters +7 for the weight reduction = 138,6
I'll try and make a pastebin with the modified mech and the pilot before you're back.
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>>1066649
i know right? it took me a while to find pics like these. iot kinda reminds me of GURPS, where if you took the "albino: trait you had to take either the uglier appearances or the good looking appearances, you could not be average. I guess in anime they must be either edgelord or gay. no in between allowed
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>>1066646
Here is the latest noseriouslythistimeforreal Pastebin for the Libra.

http://pastebin.com/bTJ4ZWY4

I really regret not making a pastebin account for this
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>>1066540
I think the remote control system is just the system you use to control the drones. The drones are statted up separately just like a regular mech.
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>>1066747
goddamnit, just noticed that the thrusters are wrong here too.

fucking shit. I need to go to sleep since I have work in a couple of hours, but after I get off, I'm rewriting the entire damn thing and making damn sure everything is correct before I post another damn pastebin.

never do shit when you're sleep deprived, kids.
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>>1066649

Here you go, the revised Gyrfalcon and it's pilot.

http://pastebin.com/WStmDX7Y
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>>1066639
woah there, no hot powerplant. You have a death wish or something?
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>>1067197

>Hot powerplant
>Light/striker armour
>no shields
>trading out kills from the torso and cockpit servos

The is not really designed to be survivable by any means. It started out with the hot powerplant to keep the cost down by balancing out the metaform wings (and keep it simple by taking multipliers out of the equation), but it quickly became a character trait. The pillot really is the kind of guy to strip off all the armour and sit his ass down on an unshielded reactor to shave off those few tons of ballast. The whole thing is a serious case of style over substance.

Still, it's not allowed by the rules, so the revised model uses a normal boring plant and has al the normal kills.
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>>1067447
Why did you want such expensive sensors? You certainly can't shoot that far.
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>>1067485
He probably wanted to be witnessed
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>>1067528
Don't be silly, sensors are for witnessing others. The JNN camera crew is for being witnessed

>>1067485
The concept started out as a really long ranged scouting/sniping mech, long ago, and the sensors stuck. It stil meant for recon as well as combat so good sensors make sense, but your right, 15k/1500k sensors might just be a tad overboard.

It did not help that i didn't read the rules properly the first time and thought you could only detect opponents at the short range, either.
Then again, why call it sensor range and communication range when your sensors can detect shit up to communication range?
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>>1066528
Wong, any favorite Salt moments from the Inauguration?
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>>1067678
Okay lets go...
(Before anything, let me say that I'm kind of occupied today and I didn't get much sleep, so I may be slow to reply and make some errors)

First, Your total CP before multipliers is 120,8 CP, because your sensors cost just 9CP, anc cockpits can't be slimmed down with space efficiency, costing 2 CP and occupying two spaces... While the price of your missile laucher would be 6,12CP to have 3,12spaces, but you could just apply 0,06 on space efficiency to have it be 6,18CP and 3Spaces and end with 12,36CP if you care about that centesimals, and the price of the Pumpkin Laucher would be 3,84CP.

Second, your launchers should weight 1,5tons each, with the phalanx weighting 0.8.

Third, you can probably spend 0.3CP to bring the spaces on the phalanx to 2.

Fourth, You can also assume that your hands cost 1.5, to get 1 extra CP point.

Fifth, Your real maximum before taking the meta form wings in consideration is 127,2CP. what means that you still have 6,4 to go...

Suggestions:
-Drop the pod, gain 8CP back and your base weight goes to 29.8.
-Use 4CP to increase Torso to Medium Striker and reduce weight back to 29.8 again.
-use "Weapon Mating" on the Meteor, reducing their intial space cost to 9 Spaces for free, and then reduce it to 1 Space by spending 4CP(3 from the original ones, and +1 from the 4CP left, leaving you with 3).
-Change the cockpit to your Torso.
Now you should be:
Torso: Meteor(1Space) and Cockpit(2Spaces).
Head: Sensors(2 Spaces, can't reduce), ASP(2 Spaces) and Radio Analyzer(1Space).
-Use 0.3CP to slim the Phalanx to 2Spaces and transfer it to Torso too.(2,7CP Left)
-Put 2 Thursters on Torso and 2 on each arm.
-Mate the Missile lauchers into one, it'll have 7,7Spaces, spend 1,85CP to reduce it to 4Spaces and then use it on one hand while the other hold the Pumpkin, also you reduce your weight by 0.5tons, gaining 1CP back again.
>(1.85 +6,4=8.25CP left).
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>>1068568
Also... If you aren't going to buy Backup sensors anyway, you could consider having a canopy type cockpit... I know it sounds crazy, but your armor is already just 2SP so nothing would change...
Besides everyone thinking that you are absolutely crazy.
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For anyone who cares, the biggest tank of all time.
http://pastebin.com/y7yEfrM6
I should probably make some humanoid mechs at some point.
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>>1068568

Thanks for the feedback. You spotted few mistakes left in the design that i didn't see (like using space effficiency on the cockpit). Also, you were right about those centecimals, i just rounded them all up to one decimal for simplicity's sake.

Mating the torso cannons was a great idea, as was dropping the pod. I'm going to keep the cockpit in the head though, at this level of survivabilty that bonus to ejecting is more useful then the few extra kills in the torso. As for the canopy cockpit, it makes sense, but it's ultimately pointless for the same reason why i did not bother with backup sensors in the first place. Any hit that would take out the sensors would need to hit the head first, and will have very likely destroyed it with that hit, meaning that the piot is either dead or floating in space anyway. And even if it didn't, fighting on with only 1 sp and several kills from the head missing would just be suicidal, sensors or no. At that point you just run away. Also, it would just look silly.

Handheld weapons are a pain though, especially since i've been calculating the weight of the missiles wrong. I've been making a few more weapons (and borrowed some more from the rogue's gallery), but of course the heaviest weapon is never the cheapest, so i can't take a single (pair of) weapons as a benchmark and then make everything less then that.

How do you deal with mecha with variable loadouts? just pick the highest weight and highest cp among the options and enter that?
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>>1069532
Yeah, missiles weigh .5 tons for every 30 K of damage.
It may be in the vanilla book, I suppose. I stopped even looking at that a long time ago.
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>>1069532
>>1069591
Where the rule for missile weight is located, that is.
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>>1069591
>>1069599
0.5 ton for every 15 kills. It's in the advance tech manual, under missiles as one of the first few paragraphs.
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>>1069750
>30
Don't even know why I said that. It's right in my designs. Maybe I'm dyslexic or something.

And thanks for telling me.
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>>1069768
Slip of the tongue. Happens often, just need to keep at it. Might look later, though I'm more into inventing than correcting.
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Here, I made sure that there were no errors this time, and even made an account just in case.

Official Libra Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/GUgpExGv

Hopefully I want have to embarrass myself anymore than I already have.
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>>1066198
>Also, Thunderbird, BR...the truth is, both of you are frequently wrong, and try to take Roarke in a direction contrary to the general vein he goes in. I know this, I expect it, I compensate for it, and I like it and I like you. You're both necessary participants and I truly fear one or the other of you ragequitting over the other.

Clearly, we should disregard both of them in the future.
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>>1071373
>implying I haven't already been disregarding oth of them
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>>1071373
>>1071523
I don't think that he meant that me and Thunder should be completely disregarded, or he wouldn't have said " You're both necessary participants and I truly fear one or the other of you ragequitting over the other."... But I admit that you should at least think twice and ask for details before agreeing to most of our plans, as it seems that I tend to suggest too risky things and Thunder usually suggest things that could have heavy consequences even if we end up accomplishing our goal.
I'm pretty reliable when it comes to mechs, though, even if (like any mekton designer seems to have) I have some sort of design style and train of though that follows certains predicable patterns...
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>>1072076
>implying I didnt put half of your first mech together for you
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>>1069532
Hmmm... I understand why at a first glance, and I said some pretty similar things to Wong and Dutch sometime ago when I was making the Walkure but you may want to take this in consideration:

First, Your sensor can be destroyed without the head taking great damage, as a mech can always aim for the sensors, or even just score a crit that causes an eletrical failure of subsystems and fry your sensors.

Second... That +2 ejecting bonus isn't so much when you're already an ace... And as much I think that having a mech with a cockpit in his head on the tourney would be cool... It wouldn't pay out in the end and would leave you at disadvantage in comparison to most mechs in terms of resistance, when you don't have any other form of increasing your survivability on combat... Why? Because even if you get a direct cockpit hit or have the servo in which your cockpit is stored destroyed you can still make a Reflex+1d10 roll to escape dying, and as our reflexes are 10, ou minimum result would de 11... What makes it impossible that we would die anyway, maybe end in a hospital bed for the rest of the fights, but we would survive anyway.

And thats also why the canopy cockpit makes sense for you, as you don't have a backup sensor.

Also... Are you ignoring the suicidal tendecies of your own pilot? Michale don't sound like someone who would be intimidated by the risk of almost exploding!

About loadouts... I just try to keep the weight the same and count on the most expensive loadout... But some people here calculate weight, CP and even MA for each loadout, but Libra, Dutch and Myrm would be better at giving you suggestions over this, as they tend to use it more than me.

>>1072095
>Implying I didn't get better since then.
But seriously anon, thank you for that time, you were a great teacher and I probably would have had more problems without your help.
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S-Pyxicephalus

Medium Weight Torso: C/S/K 12, 6 tons
Medium Weight Head: C/S/K 6, 3 tons
Medium Weight Left Arm: C/S/K 7, 3 tons
Left Hand: 2 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Medium Weight Right Arm: C/S/K 7, 3 tons
Right Hand: 2 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Medium Weight Left Leg: C/S/K 7, 3 tons
Medium Weight Right Leg: C/S/K 7, 3 tons

Armor: Officer's Medium Heavy (8 SP, 12 CP, 4.0 tons) on all locations, does not ablate from damage caused by attacks dealing less than 4 Kills

Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 CP, 2 Spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Advanced Sensor Package (Head): 10 CP, 2 Spaces

Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Torso Storage Module (1 CP, 1 Space), Liftwire (0.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP), Weapons Cross Linkage (One isn't Interservo, two are, 4x Repeating Beam Cannons 8 CP), Deluxe Anti-Theft Lock (0.4 CP), Stereo (0.1 CP)

Armament:
[Left Arm-Mounted] Gaunt-Pattern Repeating Beam Cannon x2 (stats show an individual beam cannon): Range 550m, WA +1, 8K, BV 3, Fragile (only 1 Kill of structure), 35 CP, 2 Spaces, 0.5 tons
[Right Arm-Mounted] Gaunt-Pattern Repeating Beam Cannon x2 (stats show an individual beam cannon): Range 550m, WA +1, 8K, BV 3, Fragile (only 1 Kill of structure), 35 CP, 2 Spaces, 0.5 tons
[Head-mounted] Beam Vulcans: Range 300m, WA +1, 2K, Fragile (only 1 Kill of structure), Anti-Personnel, 4 CP, 1 Space, 0.5 tons
[Torso-Mounted] Bubble Shield: Automatically parries any attack with less than 9K damage, if hit by an attack with more damage the shield flickers out for two turns. 32.5 CP, 7 Spaces, 2 tons, 8K of damage to this system disables it permanently until repaired.
[Head-Mounted] Compact Heavy Missile x2 (stats show an individual missile): Range 1200m, WA +2, 12K, 1 rocket, 4 CP, 1 Spaces, 0.5 tons

Thrusters & Speed: 7 per leg, 2 per arm, moves 450 meters per turn in flight or can run 200m. 18 CP
Total Weight: 53.5 tons
Total Cost: 352.5 CP


Just a rough draft in case anyone is still here. Garret was wrong about it having beam sweepers.
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>>1072118

It's the first mech to really incorporate a gundam staple that's been missing so far because most early-game combat was in space where infantry is really not common, the anti-personnel guns. The insurgency on Qu'lir has made it more of a sensible option than it previously was.
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>>1072118
Dang.
>>1072121
Hey Wong how much CP would be reasonable for a new mech for Oda?
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>>1072125
Or anyone of Odas level in the organization I guess.
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>>1072125
>http://pastebin.com/GUgpExGv
>>1072126
We gave him the Chevalier a few threads ago if I'm not mistaken... Hey, what did we do with the moonlight sword?
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>>1072118
Wait, I'm confused... Are all the weapons linked?

How does that apply to burst? For example, if the attack rolls results in 16 vs 13, does the enemy gets 12 shots to the same limb? Are the extra burst shots rolled at random?Does each linked attack suffer a -1 penalty and gets less shots in because of that?
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>>1072136
I was mostly wondering because I wanted to mess with energy pools and a beam katana whose modes had weeaboo names seemed like fun. Came up with this. If I am understanding them right energy pools are pretty sweet.

Handheld Energy Pool: 55 CP, 20 power available, 50 max power, 10 kills, 6 spaces, 5 tons
Kabutowari: WA +1, 10K, Quick, 20 CP,
Fukitsuna Tsukiakari: Range 700m, WA +1, 13K, 19.5 CP,
Tsubame Gaeshi: DA -1, SP 8, EMW

Got some ideas for a samurai mech for 140 CP too that I think I'll play with.
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>>1072141
And I forgot to put EMW on the beam katana of course.
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>>1072141
Oh, I would love to see it anon, I'm already curious of how it would develop in comparison to the Bushi and the Lightning.
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>>1072143
Yo, BR. In case you missed it.

>>1071346
Updated Libra.
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>>1072145
>I didn't got much sleep, again.
I'll give it a look man... But wasn't it done some months ago? Why did you decide to change it now?
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>>1072145
Can I ask you something? I'm seeing that it servos sizes are all over the place, customized for maximum efficiency with minimum expenditure of resources... Which makes sense, but from where did this mecha came? is it a heavily modified Bluegill, who isn't even on Bluegills usual size anymore? Is it a tuned down Pumpkinseed? Because I'm a little worried about from where you'll get these sort of sorted servos if it is made from scratch, as I don't know if Wong will let you just glue some Bluegills legs and harpy wings and call it a day...

But thats just my chuunibyou talking, I know that it probably doesn't matter much, but I got curious about if you have an explanation in mid for that.
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>>1072143
http://pastebin.com/F8RsePMj
Not tourney legal or strictly technically legal since beam weapons cant get returning but there it is. Surprisingly hard to find robots that just look like samurai.

Had the idea that instead of actually throwing the sword it does that iaijutsu shit and the blade flies off, then the hilt has to go back into the scabbard to produce a new blade.
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>>1072159
Also instead of turning into an actual shield the idea is that it parries with the sword blade for more samurai weeaboo nonsense.
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>>1072162
>http://pastebin.com/F8RsePMj
Its a shame that Cali-kouhai and Paladin-sama aren't interested in joining us... Because this is just too good to not be used!
HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE
>"Also instead of turning into an actual shield the idea is that it parries with the sword blade for more samurai weeaboo nonsense."
I can actually imagine storm dragons trying this
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>>1072176
Probably just asleep considering they are more than likely yanks.
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>>1072181
Nah, Cali said that its too late for him and that he would have problems in showing up to the fights.
And Paladin said something similar, but it was a long time ago...

Its kind of sad really, as I would love to see what the two of them would come up with.
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>>1072151
It's done, and you don't need to check it or anything, but the Space Jam pastebin is still using an outdated model. Just trying to let you know that so you can fix it.

>>1072157
Originally I had thought it as a customized Pumpkinseed, So I suppose if anything it's that. I just cut it out from Alex' bio for some reason.
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>>1072118
Well that is a nasty piece of work. Anyone with 7 SP of armor is going to eat 4 kills right there. Anyone with 6 will eat 8. It'd destroy any servo it hit for most lighter mechs and it can fire at three mechs at a time. The shield is a nasty thing to deal with too since it's even stronger than previous ones. Only weakness is that it's incredibly slow compared to the likes of the standard fair, but it doesn't need to be fast if it can just shoot forever.
Still, that price. Certainly more expensive than the Delphinus, but cheaper than the slinger. Makes me wonder what that extra 20% funding is going into.. or what that extra bit of data was that was given to Irina by Fairchild. Bits?
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>>1072639
Verniers?
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>>1072121
Amusingly, one of the options for the Valkyrie is the following:
Left arm mounted anti infantry missile system WA +0, 2k, Blast 1, 250 meter range, 5 missiles, 3CP, 3 spaces .5 tons
Unless I've misread the rules, it basically murders every infantry unit in a 75 meter radius, with no rolls required.
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>>1072666
That'd be 60 CP worth of them at least. Maybe more if it goes to a slinger like 380. That would take it's MV of -5 and make it a -1. It'd ALSO make it so that with the missiles our rolls would be at a 19 base. That is HORRIFYING.
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>>1072684
Its still got at least some verniers to go on but probably not quite that many.
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>>1072689
Well, either way it's an heroic mech. Either it be coating the entire thing in hero class armor, bits, or something else, it's certainly missing something big for being the hero machine Fairchild said she wanted it to be.
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I'll tell you now not to get too deep into that 20% number or take it literally that the S-Delphinius will be as expensive as the S-Slayer. Let's just say it's more bang for the buck, and moves as well as Amos' original ride.

I wish I'd said that before someone irresponsibly put the idea of -1 MV into your heads.

>>1072141

Possibly confirmed. Oda's new mech is pretty strong, he has a lot of clout and has saved up a lot of money to work on his new baby. Miles and Richard, by contrast, are a lot more limited, about on the level of an MP SOUL machine.

>>1072139

Yes. If one hits, it gets four shots (with one location roll) per degree of success, meaning it either hits one location four times, two locations four times for a total of eight, or three locations four times for a total of twelve. It's a very powerful, expensive machine, fitting of the Chairman's son.

I still prefer Trevor's Percheron
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>>1072781
That energy pool is actually only 5 CP more expensive than Oda's current load out if you dont count the space efficiency.
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>>1072703

First the S-Squilla, now the poor S-Delphinius. It's hard being a disappointment...but I'll stand up for the Delphinius, at least!

It can go toe-to-toe with even the heaviest mecha in melee, with its lance. It has enough gun to go cowboy with the Archen (at least the weaker simulated version), it has the strongest single solid shield so far in this quest, and its missiles have a lot of tactical use. It doesn't need to cost the same amount of SP.

>>1072800

Oda's machine also has two other swords, though.
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>>1072813
True but that sword hits harder and hits twice. Oda's regular swords dont have quickness.
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>>1072813
As a random aside, roughly what % of the belts population do the Iron Kestrals control? I really have no idea how close we are to conquering the belt.
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>>1072639

I missed this at first

>incredibly slow

God no. 400 is standard for SOUL mecha, Caesar's 600 is just because it's an incredibly swift beast. The Black Ogre at 500 is viewed as quite speedy. Naomi's S-Puffer, the spiritual ancestor of the S-Pyxicephalus, moved at 400 mpt.
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>>1072849
What we need is to up the Ogre to 800.

Just for pants-shitting terror at how blindingly fast it is.
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>>1072827

They do now. Also, the rules for two-handing in the book are extremely confusing. It says you can't parry if you use a weapon two-handed, I've assumed that means you can't use a shield on one of the arms you're two-handing with but a torso or tail shield is just fine. It then raises the question...if you have a four-armed mech with heat katanas in two of its arms and a beam no-dachi that can shift from cutting mode to shield mode at will in its other two, can you parry with it and still do a full burst attack?
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>>1072830

You're in a good position to conquer a lot of it, you just need the downtime to expand and take over colonies and such, which is the reason for the long Amos arc. Otherwise there would be a lot of "Roarke chops his way through dozens of mecha that cannot reasonably fight back".
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>>1072861
It says you cant parry with anything but the weapon you are two handing but if the weapon can turn into a shield it shouldn't cause a problem right? Two handing in general seems a bit lackluster.
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>>1072883

Yeah, I think this is another case of us breaking the rules for a long time and not really caring. I'm still incredibly mad that I lost the stats for the upgraded Zulfiqar and Swordfish, because the upgraded Swordfish really fixed a lot of the original's flaws.
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>>1072910
Did you post them in the thread at some point or did you just leave them on your computer?
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>>1072920

I just had them on my computer. Otherwise I would have retrieved them.
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So I'm making a mech dual wielding smallish machine guns. Would it be worth it to Interservo Link them?
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>>1073281
Almost definitely, especially if you're planning to do gun fu or something like that
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>>1073332
Nah, I'm making the Blizzaia from Front Mission. I was having trouble deciding between 8 MA and linking or 10 MA and no linking. I couldn't tell which would be more useful since it's pretty slow and the guns have 350 range.
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Just finished a revised version of the Gyrfalcon.

http://pastebin.com/ZCLA8beU

in summary, i took out the pod and packed everything in the head and torso, with some vigorous application of weapon mating and space efficiency. Also managed to squeeze out some cp too bump the head and torso armour to 3, so it might survive a hit, and add in one pumpkinseed missile, in case we run into a paladin. And the handheld weapons re fixed, just made the cheap but heavy one a bit more expensive, and the expensive but light one a little cheaper.
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>>1073348
That depends... Do you want it to have a more defensive build? To wreck anything that gets into its range? Or do you wamt to close in people and slowy shot them as they have no chance of escaping?

>>1073483
I'll give it a look in a few hours, I'm somewhat occupied today.

>>1072868
>Not letting us play raids of Rocs and Shinobi harpies going against Bluegills and Pumpkinseeds,

Wong, just remember that if I'm not mistaken the anons had decided into hiding the existence of our new mechs until we judged necessary to show them up, to have an trump card to use against Fairchild whwn she is not expecting this... I just don't remember if that only applies to the Bushi or if the Rocs are included too.

(If I'm just crazy, please just point it out people, it has been time since we disscussed it.)
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>>1073549
>(If I'm just crazy, please just point it out people, it has been time since we disscussed it.)
I don't remember ever agreeing to that, and hiding the existence of any upgrades would be near impossible. It would be better to try to hide one or two designs by showing off the other ones, and even that I don't expect to work.
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>>1073559
I don't relly think that it would work as we probably already have spies between us... But keeping the Bushis existence could be useful if we can do it.
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>>1072813
Oh I don't find the Delphinus lacking. If anything it's an amazing tactical machine. It's why when I look at Garret's mech and it's cost that I assumed wrongly. Really, the thing is practically a elite officer mech if you trim down some of the features. Apologies for putting the MV-1 idea in peoples heads as well.
>>1072849
Hm. Didn't think of it like that. Makes machines like the Lightning and F-Type Dutchman pretty scary for how fast it can go.
>>1072868
Hopefully we have been reading the Biggs log and doing some research on Cabot/The First Mate on the side. Both are pretty important and the log serves as a pretty good auction item. At least in a 'You know what I know.' Sort of way.
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Well, I think I'm retarded. I'm not making a tourney mech, so I have no idea why I was limiting myself to 140 CP. Adding 10 MA and the link only put it at 1.6 CP over anyway.
It only took me an hour long break to realize.
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>>1073549

The problem is that mass combats rapidly turn into a clusterfuck, as I learned the hard way during the pirate wars of the earlier threads, hence a lot of it becoming background stuff later.
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>>1073663

The tourney mechs will be the bedrock on which Ustio-er, I mean Falconia will be built. Is Falconia what we settled on? I remember some other name being floated around, as well.
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Something interesting i found while rereading the quest was that the original Kaiser was 140 cp.

So total cp doesn't really mean much
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>>1073754
I'm in a hurry, but listen:

One of the best options to deal with this is to reduce army combat to squad combat, and to jump between the squads and the protags every turn... It takes more time and effort buts adds a new element to the game, as the protags have to worry about their troops.

....Or you can go BLE-way of doing things and divide the robots between troops, if each troop having X mechs but with the same Mekton stats but one scale higher... In this way you can turn a battle of 60 mechs against 4 in battle of 6 vs 4 for example, making things faster... But you'll need to adapt on how crits would work, as BLE doesn't have this problem but in Mekton would look silly if every robot in troop took the same type of crit at the same type... But you could make them temporary and blame them on area effects if you want to.

What do you think about this?
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>>1073765
No Falconia... Because people thought that it sounded cool but was silly or something... I don't know if we even settled on something, you should vote it again as we didn't really choose it in a formal manner.
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>>1073765
BELKA
THE BELKAN EMPIRE OF THE BELT
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>>1073765
Oh, every mech submitted is going to be used? I guess I didn't need to shill the Zeus then.
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>>1073808
>60 vs 40*
My mistake.
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>>1073765
There was also Eisen-smothing "The Gate of Iron" that sounded very cool and ominous
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>>1073838
Google translate says "Das Tor des Eisens" but I don't know if I trust it.
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>>1073765
I liked that one German name, but I can't remember what it was
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>>1073847
Should be 'Eisentor' then
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>>1073851
Ooh, that's good.
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>>1073765
Eisentor. Iron Gate in german.
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>>1074008
I really like this one... What do you guys prefer? Any other suggestions?
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>>1073818

>*muffled mandolins in the distance*
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>>1074133
Anything but falconia since it references a character I despise.
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>>1074354
Griffith did nothing wrong
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>>1074373
Griffith did everything wrong.
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>>1074373
No, he did one thing wrong. He got killed by the demons.

Other than that, yeah. 10/10 would hire as a babysitter.
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>>1074198
And then a huge conflict happens over Ceres due to 'rightful Belkan Clay'. Actually, if one were to do some colony scaping of the dwarf planet, the ice and minerals could be turned into a really huge farming colony. Just expand and hollow it, give it the right biological components alongside aerating it, and it'd be pretty good.
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Should I watch ZZ or skip right to CCA?
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>>1075172
Depends. ZZ ties up loose ends with Zeta, has some good bits and a pretty colorful cast. If you want to see the conclusion to Amuro and Char's story first, by all means go to CCA.
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>>1075423
Do I need to know things that happened to understand why things are happening in CCA?
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>>1075490
hmm well, some characters meet their end in ZZ so if you want to know why certain people aren't present or a factor in CCA...
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>>1075490
I would suggest watching ZZ first, but I understand why you would like to skip it... Do you care about things going in a linear progression of time?
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>>1075490
Not really. Amuro and Char are both absent from ZZ and none of the main ZZ cast really show up there. In a way, CCA is basically what happens when people wanted the dramatic conclusion to the story between Char and amuro.. which explains Char's character change. Think he was suppose to be dead originally.
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>>1075490
I mean, there are some characters who die or are otherwise neutralized in ZZ that would have had an impact on CCA if they'd lived, so if you'd rather not be curious as to why one character or another isn't anywhere to be seen you might watch ZZ first.
But other than that go ahead and watch CCA
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>>1075591
I think I'm going to go watch CCA, thanks for the help anons
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>>1075547
>>1075591
Huh, I though I hadn't posted that first one... now I'm just repeating myself.
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Say... how many weapons can you mate together into one? and can you mate a shield to a weapon?
Cause I want to mate a beam gun, shield and heat sword together so I can parry shit with a pistol then stab said shit with the sword part...
or recreate some bloodborne weapons like the rifle spear or Logarius Wheel
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>>1075721
Could do that, but the problem with such things is weight and kills. See, they sorta take kills of damage together, so damaging the shield damages the weapons and vice versa. Less a issue with energy shields, but you see the problem. And if one part is busted they all are if I recall.
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>>1075721
It says two weapons but theres nothing stopping you from putting one of the weapons into a binder on to the shield.
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>>1075721
You don't need to mate a shield to something for being able to block with it, but melee weapons can't block ranged attacks.

>>1075755
You could do this, buy spaces into a shield, call it "an armored X that protects my weapon" and use a mated pistol/sword.

But everything gets destroyed if the shield gets destroyed,
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SO WONG FOUND A SUPER COOL THING RELEVANT TO THIS QUEST.

http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/products/compact-fusion.html

We're working on microfusion generators even if A-Particles are purely a gundam homage.

>>1075555

Char actually shows up in ZZ if you look close enough. He's in disguise as a man named June or Jinnel who's hiding out in Africa (because Lalah left him thirsty for brown girls) who hits on Roux and scolds Glemy.
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>>1074530

You're forgetting gravity. Mars had to have mass added to it by the Green Men for it to become habitable in the first place.
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>>1075780
That is true.. and gravity generators are likely not good enough or exist yet(I recall weak gravity being a issue for Psyche). Then again, you do that sort of stuff and gravitics are just around the corner too.
>>1075772
So he was weighed down by Earth's Girls then. All starting to make sense.
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>>1075768
>everything gets destroyed if the shield gets destroyed

right then, guess I'm making the logarius wheel which will be a Mega heavy shield with a big wheel shaped "mace" mated to either a missile launcher or a beam sweeper thing.
>>1075772
>He's in disguise as a man named June
I saw that thread on /m/, that characters last name is Kock... Chars other persona was Quattro Bajeena... he literally named himself 4 vagina and 6 (june is the 6th month) cock
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>>1075772
And the japs are teaching robots how to sword fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3XyDLbaUmU
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>>1075823
Korea's actually made a 13M mech thats supposed to be for rescue work iirc, its not finished yet though and it has to be plugged in to a power source to work.
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>>1075780
Hey Wong, are you really going to time jump entire months? What about that choice of "what are you going to do with your troops" that we spent so much time discussing about? Is that going to get in? Or will we choose it before the description of the time jump?

Also... Any chance of us raiding for those sweet sweet Pumpkinseed II kits for the Stone Soldiers? Or maybe investigating those "Avalonian terrorist who tottaly aren't pirates working for fairchild"?
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>>1075837
er 13 feet, excuse me I got my measuring systems mixed up.

also amazon put in a patent for a flying warehouse, and the military has done some work on swarm drones.
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>>1075823
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3472Q6kvg0
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>>1075854

Wasn't that choice "what do you want to devote Roarke's attention personally to obtaining" and you guys chose "money"?

All time jumps lead up to the tourney. If you wish, I CAN delay the tourney to do significant things in the month or so leading up to it, but you only have tourney mecha among your regular forces after the tourney arc.
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>>1075823

Until it can detect killing intent it isn't a true bushi.
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>>1075902
Oh yeah, you're right....Crap, I forgot about that... But "Money" was a good choice.

Hm... I don't know, the thing is... I'm really hyped up for the tourney and want it to start before my classes begin again and I get less time to spend here... But at the same time I know that the anons here may have really good ideas on things to do before the tourney...
So I leave the choice for them.
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>>1075902
It makes sense. If we are going to build our own nation, we need capital to get everything up and running swiftly. After that, we can focus on pure strength building and getting things under control. Aside from small things that can be done at leisure like reading the logs or asking a question or two, there are no real goals for the tie being. I'd assume that Sam and Clemmy could probably handle info gathering and just give us what we need before the event just so we aren't blind sided, but that is up to you.
Sorta funny. With all the stuff we can sell at the auction and the tournament and all the money that can go with it, I see both events as more a means to get favors and hopefully gets some important things done. Need to help Caesar get her girl back after all.
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>>1076013
You know what...

What if instead of making jupiter buy their museum expo back... We sold it for the highest bidder?

>tfw Duke Kirito buys everything just to make Fairchild REE

Also, Dutch, any idea about your next character? I just can't choose... So many good options...
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>>1075591
Hey quick question. So I'm at the part where Char's making the deal with the Feddies and he's going to give them his fleet and the gold for a giant asteroid and so they have peace and Char won't drop another asteroid on them. How does this deal make any sense?
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>>1076074
The Feds are and always have been dumb as shit
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>>1076074
these are the same people who thought the Titans were a good idea. You tell me.
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>>1076090
Honestly thats the entire reason I side with Zeon, the Feds are so corrupt and incompetent I side with Zeon out of spite
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>>1076074
A running them of the UC is that, no matter how evil Zeon/the space faction gets, the Feds are always invariably riddled with corruption and incompetence at the highest levels.
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>>1076103
Considering what happend in Stardust Memories it makes complete sense why they would want to crack down on spacenoids and it wasn't like the Titans we're gassing colonies and nuking the earth when they started
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>>1076104
>Literally have one of their biggest bases in Amazonia
>Use brazilia as political center
>Trusting Brazil for housing any important political center.
These guys are just asking to get nuked.
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>>1075768
So.. I decided to go with a beam shield with a binder that carries a 20K AP melee weapon

Beam shield with Binder: SP 9, DA 0, 6 Spaces, 39.6 CP.
Logarius’ Wheel: 20K, WA 0, AP, 6 spaces, 27 CP (7CP of space efficiency)
Total CP: 66.6

For the beam shield I used a 12 SP/CP one then applied the 2x accuracy modifier, the 1.5 beam shield modifier than the 1.1 binder modifier that subtracts 1/4th of the SP and turns it into spaces.
>>1076074
The feds never were too bright, but yeah that deal did seem idiotic even for them.
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>>1076058
Eh, if I am thinking characters. One sorta grabbed me.
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>>1076168
Not sure beam shields can use a binder since technically they are EMWs but I might be full of shit.
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>>1076178
Would he be Fatima's son?

If we are really limited to Roarke's children...
Some of my options were...
>Kawai(Clemmy's daughter)(Trained by Akai)
Cute, playfull, fight-thirsty, and bent on going all-out in combat with the most creative ways she can think to surprise her enemies.
>Angelisse(Lori's daughter)(trained by Victor)
Serious but kind, strong sense of duty, well mannered and classy.
>Ingrid 0(Lori or Clemmy)(Trained by Miles or Inari)
Smug ace loli who doesn't let anyone tell her what to do and only listen to Roarke.
>DARK FLAME MASTER(Karen)(Teacher: Doan)
Really believed in the shonen memes about "the power of friendship", "training" and "never giving up"... Acts like he is much more stronger than reality, but really don't give up even when he is losing.
>One of the Lelouch twins(Samantha)(Teacher:???)
If other anon wants to roll with this idea, we could each one play one of the twins, but I didn't watched the whole code geas yet and don't have too much ideas for these characters besides doing keikakus and being smug.

>>1076185
Simple answer: No you can't, and normally the spaces are reduced from the structural kills, what would make this extra bizzare.
Full answer: By the rules, you can if the QM allows it, like the AP blast grenades.
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>>1076278
Oh no, I was just thinking characters like Maxwell. Just a lumberjack with a fascination with axes.. and a mech that turns into an axe.
As for kids, seems some ideas are given since Wong said there are some choices that are picked. Kawai being out while Dio is in for example. Odd that you picked Maxwell for the ham character since he's looking to be the opposite with how Wong shaped him up. Catholic Orphanage Caretaker and all that.Surprised he has not shown up yet. Guess we'll see him after this war.
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>>1076316
He got mentioned at some point. Richard knows him.
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>>1076316
Why not have the best character from another series as a child?

Maximum cool and intelligence. Solid attractiveness and a decent body. High empathy but admittedly poor luck. Max reflexes is a given, of course, as for literally everyone in this bitch.

No seriously, literally the only good thing to come out of that IP. Shame he's such a sociopath.
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>>1076278
then... since the beam shield is technically an EMW and thus a weapon... can I mate it to a melee weapon then instead of shoving the melee weapon into the shields binder?
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>>1076337
>Only good thing
I'm glad I get to work late today so I can tell you how wrong you are.
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>>1076337
I thought that was adult Caesar?
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>>1076337
>>1076351
yeah, wong's used Aizen's pic for Caeser, so he's already in here.

How about Vash? he's even a plant person so he's a great fit for the avalonians
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>>1076337
The world needs more Garrod expys.
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>>1076360
>Avalonian Jesus
>With a brother who wants to wipe out non-Avalonians
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>>1076347
>implying there haven't been better dark-skinned chicks
pls
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>>1076380
>implying there have been better dark-skinned chicks
Shit taste confirmed.
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>>1076386
We've seen both a better dark-skinned chick and a better catgirl in quest already. They happen to be the same person.
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>>1076425
>Whats her face
>Better than Yoruichi
Geez anon. Are you TRYING to be this wrong?
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>>1076431
Let me guess, Bleach was your first.
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>>1076434
No actually, Code Geass and the original Gundam. My mom didn't like anime so I had to watch on adult swim when I was a bit older, and I(accidentally) stole a VHS copy of Gundam. I finished both around the same time.

I liked Bleach, then disliked it slightly after the Arancarr arc started, liked it better in fake whatever town arc, then realized Kubo was only good at making waifus. They're God Tier.

But seriously, that last part was literal garbage, and everything terrible about shounen.
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>>1076434
Or a Shinigami Savant reader.
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>>1076449
I am that too. Of course, I could say the same almost all of the good quests.
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>>1076449
>>1076454
>that too
I'm more drunk than I though.
I am that.
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>>1076425
what anime is Marilyn(?) from anyway? I've seen her around but I'm pretty sure I haven't watched the show shes from.
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>>1076458
Outlaw Star.

AKA the show where ships literally punch each other.
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>>1076448
Once Aizen was "beaten" they should have stopped it. But it kept going. My god it kept going. It could have had a decent end to a general shitshow.

Code Geass was alright. C2 was the best thing out of it, though. Until it got into her backstory. Then she got kinda meh. Or CC, whatever the fuck they wanna call her.
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>>1076465
Yet another mecha anime to add to my growing watch list, still working through G gundam cause class decided to ramp up... fucking hell medical reimbursement rules are hard to decipher and the management stuff is annoying too
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>>1076471
>C2 best
I think you mean Sir Orange himself.
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>>1076471
It really should have. I hear most Japanese fans just believe the anime ended then.

I remember thinking Code Geass was meh because it had a lot of maguffins. I don't know if that's accurate though, I'm pretty sure I watched it the year the dub came out. Can't remember. At least they're both better than Naruto, though I can't say if Bleach's or Naruto's ending was worse.
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>>1076487
I'm gonna be level with you I'm kind of fucked up right now and don't even know who that is.
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>>1076495
Oh, we've just been drunkenly shitposting at each other? What am I doing with my life?
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>>1076493
I'm gonna say Naruto just because it was overall less entertaining out of the two.

>>1076502
We're in too deep.
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>>1076506
Yeah. I mean, Naruto's was bad in an unejoyable way, but Bleach's was bad in a "fuck everything you liked about Bleach" sort of way. It got rid of some of the best characters introduced in the two good arcs of Bleach and reintroduced shitty ones from the shitty arcs.

On one hand, Naruto's was worse, but Naruto's bad as a whole. On the other, Bleach's served to ruin the good parts of Bleach that I liked. It's like someone pissing in a bad cereal vs a cereal you kind of like.
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>>1076522
>yfw the publishers end up ruining One Piece
>yfw Guts is back on the boat
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>>1076530
Though I stopped bothering with one piece during the dressrosa arc, my interest just sorta petered off near the end.
also, I've been reading berserk but am stalled at like book 31 cause i can't find copies of 32 and up that aren't like 50$, I suppose I could read it online for free but I like actually having a book in my hands even for manga
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Fuck Quess
Fuck Lalah
Fuck Hathaway
Fuck Sunrises way of throwing you into a story with no background
Fuck Quess
8.5/10 Pretty good, wish I didn't know so much about it before going in
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>>1076530
Eh, One Piece has been going down in quality. It used to be solid gold, but it's just sort of been treading the same water recently. I still remember what it was like when I was a kid, watching it on TV with the sound super low, hoping my mom wouldn't wake up. I loved every minute of it. I remember it suddenly stopped airing in the middle of Sky Island. That was depressing. Sometimes I watch batches of episodes to remember what it was like.

Only read like 5 chapters of Berserk. Honestly I'm not a big fan of those kinds of manga/anime, like it or Goblin Slayer. I'll probably never get to it. I read manga as entertainment, and I partake in entertainment to enjoy myself, not feel sad because my chosen entertainment uses plot devices to mirror how life is shit. If I wanted to know how shit life was, I'd do taxes or read about all the refugee rapes or how mentally ill people are mistreated.
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>>1076569
>doesnt enjoy watching Guts get revenge on demons
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>>1076579
Griffith still isn't dead, right? Then he hasn't gotten revenge, has he?

>captcha is a street sign that looks like a dick
What the fuck
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>>1076553
Agreed, Fuck Quess and Hathaway
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>>1076579
>Demons
Bitch stand aside for the true demon killing king
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>>1076582
Hes working on it.
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>>1076569
I used to be really into One Peice, but after the Save Nico Robin arc, I just stopped reading. I got tired of people constantly putting their ideals and dreams on the line, and having no one actually die for them since at the end of the arc, everyone is alive and dandy and expected to make a full recovery.

I know shit hits the fan later on and important characters die, but at this point I just don't care because the post-timeskip character designs are all fucking awful.
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>>1076586
y'know I haven't played any of those games, main reason I know stuff from them is that my dad played them a lot (the first 2, not the 3rd), huh... I have nostalgia for a game I've never touched.
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>>1076591
Yeah, and I'm working on my drinking problem but here I am, drunkenly shitposting, being drunkenly shitposted at, and discussing manga in a MSPQ thread at 3:30 in the morning.
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>>1076584
>Why did you shoot the girl I like who was trying to kill me and had abandoned me for Amaro then Char? Your the real monster Chan!
I don't know whose worse him or Katz
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>>1076600
Pretty sure late night MSPQ have become the Ol' Pub in the slums of quest at this point.
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>>1076593
Perona best waifu with worst color scheme.

>not liking big-tittied Nami
>actually she's kinda shit, yeah
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>>1076600
Could be worse, it could be 4 in the morning
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>>1076609
Give it 20 minutes.
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>>1076609
It could always be worse. Your ex could show up. And a man with a raging erection could be chasing you in the middle of the night. During a rainstorm.
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>>1076616
Your right I could be watching Diebuster again
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>>1076616
>during a rainstorm
Fuck it's storming right now
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>>1076616
>a man with a raging erection could be chasing you in the middle of the night
well now you have me intrigued
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>>1076616
Trying to run with a boner is rather difficult isn't it?
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>>1076608
Look at this abomination.

LOOK AT IT!
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>>1076629
I can say with experience that if it is free and you do not care who sees, that no it isn't.
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>>1076635
BUT HAVE YOU SEEN HIS AUTOMATIC EXTENDING HAIR!?

He already looked terrible, though
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>>1076636
But shouldn't running around redirect the blood from your boner to your legs, lungs and heart?
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>>1076636
as long as you don't trip I guess...
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>>1076648
You mean the places it's already going? Your blood will pump faster, that's about it. It's not like your body is ever strapped for blood. You have plenty.

>>1076655
Hey, I'm not an imperial guardsman, my balls aren't that big.
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>>1076448
> I(accidentally) stole a VHS copy of Gundam
Wait... What?How does one even do that?

>>1076316
Picked Maxwell because he would be agood match to put some sense into a shonen teenager edgy protag head, and because of his fighting style, as maxwell is a all rounder.

>>1076600
>>1076605
There is truth in these words, as for a long time now MSPQ have become a pub when there is no game going on, as the kestrels doesn't seem to have better hings to do than shitposting with the usual strangers that they don't even know much about but bring some sort of familiarity into their hearts....

Yes, I'm drunk from sleep again...


>>1076609
its 7:09 here now and I didn't get to sleep.

>>1076616
.....
I wonder if you got this info by personal experience.

>>1076636
...well this confirms it.
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>>1076680
It was a friend's. I borrowed it to watch, but we both forgot about it and I never gave it back. I could probably find it if I cared to.
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>>1076683
MOEAGARAE~
MOEAGARAE~
MOEAGARAE~
GANDAMU~
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>>1076695
Never did understand why they said it Gundamu. I remember them saying it right in the actual show.
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>>1076702
The same reason why Xabungle OP has someone singing about something called "XABUNGURU"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFtxRRi3ewI
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You know... If I got well that part about us making the next generation of Roarke's children... that should leave us with something like 16+ Wong's additions if the same number of players get on this boat...

But now there is a catch, each of us suggested some characters that would be interesting to have being Roarke's sons and daughters... however, some of us may not want to play as one of those suggestions as they don't fit their play style.... So we go back to point zero about this.

Also, I think that Dio is going to be the villain of this arc.

So... What would you guys play as? Does anyone wants to play Kamille?Jonathan? Lelouch?Seras?
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>>1076755
I'm for Yoruichi.
I don't know. Someone who plays different from Roarke. For variety.
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>>1076755
He said he's keeping it to a small number. We are likely just picking which kid will be the protag out of the ones we got that are pilot age. You should probably go to bed.
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>>1076778
HAHAHAHAHAHA
WHO NEEDS TO SLEEP?

Can't sleep please send help

"As for the tourney characters, I know for a fact that in gen 2 you'll be invited to vote on two things...the mother of your character, and their mentor, with their mentor being one of the surviving tourneygoers."

I assumed that this implyed that we're going to make more characters... But yeah, that would make more sense.
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>>1076784
You didn't get the implication that Roarke would be dead? Or the rest of the Kestrels crew?

No?

I'm drunk as shit, let me go pass out.
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>>1076755
Dios mech would basically just be the KK with throwing knives and eye lasers right? Maybe teleporting if the tech really advances.
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>>1076802
>implying he wouldn't use avalonian tech to improve himself into super-powered immortal.
It isn't with his mech that you should worry for...

>>1076797
I think we finally hit that point when everyone on the bar is just too drunk to be able to keep up with anything...

Also, I'm not paying for these drinks... Wong, please put everything on Thunder's tab... And goodnight/morning/evening to everyone.
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>>1076074

What you need to remember is that the unkindest possible interpretation you can think of for the feddies and their actions is being much too kind. Like, if it ever seems like I'm going overboard with how corrupt, say, Fairchild or the megacorps are...no, gundam has at some point outdone me with the Feddies.

It makes sense in this case when you realize that the Feddies he's dealing with are taking his gold and moving to a nice colony somewhere.

If you really want it rubbed in your face, watch ZZ, when you reach the part where they're in Dublin you'll straight up see it fully unfurled. Neo Zeon could practically win the war just by buying out Federation leaders.

Also, why are we all drunk at once? BR, I see you adding Lelouch in on your own volition.

For the record, my plans are much more complex than picking one kid to be the G2 villain, and I halfway suspect Dio will be the choice for the protagonist just because he's Dio and everyone loves Clemmy.
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>>1076875
She is very huggable.
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>>1076875
>tfw MSPQ has become a metaphysical bar on /qst/
>tfw you tried to go to sleep but were distracted by /pol/acks talking about japan.


>Also, why are we all drunk at once? BR, I see you adding Lelouch in on your own volition.
No, you can check it in old threads, I was just wondering about the "twin lelouch" suggestion some anon made.

>
For the record, my plans are much more complex than picking one kid to be the G2 villain, and I halfway suspect Dio will be the choice for the protagonist just because he's Dio and everyone loves Clemmy.
I don't doubt it... But Kamille is a strong possibility if not even more popular than Dio...

Can't talk about the rest... losing... conciousness.... and don't know what are the other options...
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>>1076875
ZZ really is the worst UC series huh?
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>>1076875
Depends on the options really. If a certain crossbone gundam protag is a roarke spawn, I am obligated to pick him since he's the most fitting for the roll of space pirate. Sammy's kid would also be one of my main choices alongside Karen's.
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>>1073765
falconia is good
as long as we don't go pure murder boner on any body and unleash ancient evil
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>>1077372
I dunno. The name just feels pretty dull in general when you take away it's source. Eisentor and even Belka has more too it in feel. Also, we get to be space germans against space rome and space muslims, and space france. Unless a bunch of aliens with cockney accents pop up alongside russians, we should be fine.
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>>1077383
>Belka
didn't see this one actually me likey
if we do turn into space germans though we need to make sure not to have any space holocausts.
other wise, everyone else has a stereotype
becoming the first kieser of the belka empire is pretty bitchin
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>>1077388
Space holocaust already happened.
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>>1077403
well we did not cause it.
all is good.
i mean lets not kill the last of the space jews.
wait were are the space jews?
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>>1077407
Scavvies?
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>>1077422
well then
does that mean the puru's are jewish?
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As an interesting aside for the Amos chapters, the knight that kills Gerin is called Grandonie. Considered one of the better soldiers, he rode the horse Marmorie and wielded a spear with a blue ensign. Not even making this shit up.
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>>1077383

I got to say i like Eisentor, both because of the meaning and because it's not just a ripoff from somewhere else. Plus, we already pilot the Kaiser, we might as well make that our official title.

Besides, why would we call it Falconia? we're called the Iron Kestrels, not the copper falcons or anything.
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>>1077819
>The Emperor of the Iron Gate
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>>1077831
>>1077819
>The Emperor of the Iron Gate
mmmmmmm
i think i love you guys. this makes me so happy
for the eisentor empire!!!!
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>>1077819
FOR EINSENTOR! SIEG HAIL!
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>>1078120
SIEG HAIL
FOR THE THE IRON GATES
we need a cool flag.
we need twin stations to act as our main military base also. then i will be content with our relatively tiny (until we start umpiring it up) empire
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>>1078138
*empirering
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>>1078138
The name is symbolic dude. We don't need to make it so literal. Also, we're still space pirates, not Zeon. No need to Sieg Heil.
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>>1078120
hey senpai, what do you think our flag should be?
because i see a big bird like that pic, and maby a ring of asteroids surrounding it. maby like a halo or something
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>>1078151
b-but sieg hail!
also, these would be said after rourke is dead and this is his great great grand kid on the throne. maddened by the tyranny of the jovian, and angered at the blatant corruptions of the mega corps. goes to war (and doesn't just die because all of his half brothers and sister's from the karen clan just keep staying the best in mecha making)
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>>1077724
And looking at it, Grandonie killed 3 peers total. Gerin, Gerer.. and Berenger. We beat Berenger, and the next one we are facing is Gerin.
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>>1078240
I'm really hoping for Wong to notice this

>>1078157
What about our normal flag but with prussian touches?
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>>1078287
i...
man i think i love you. that is the best idea
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>>1078287
>>1078294
If someone posts the Kestrel's symbol, I might be able to make a good looking flag. No promises. Actually it'll probably look like shit.
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>>1078305
Oh, new ID then. Maybe the storms made the power go out last night.

>>1076770
I'm this anon. Brazil's been calling me tank anon.
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>>1078305
Nevermind, found it. It's not the right colors for the Prussian flag though. I'll see if I can fix it.
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>>1078319
WOW, thanks Tankbro! Lets see how cool it gets!
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>>1078357
FFFFFFUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKK THE CROPPING GODDAMN IT.

I'm redoing it.

Fuck cropping.
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>>1078357
mmm make the borders bigger
maby give it a splash of red in the scull looking parts. or as striped edges.
it would look good lie that.
i wonder if wong thought we would make a independent belt?
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>>1078369
Literally all I'm doing is taking a Prussian flag I image searched, hiding the bird thing, and copy pasting an inverted Iron Kestrels symbol on the flag. If you want that next level shit you'll need to find someone who isn't doing this in paint.
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>>1078357
Make a golden lining around the Kestrels symbol... and maybe to divide the black edges from the white too, but keep it very thin.
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>>1078382
ah
okay then.
i would try but i have the same problem
>>1078384
mff
this is a good idea
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Are there invisible white borders this time?
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>>1078392
Not that I can see.
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>>1078392
>>1078400
Good. I'll see if I can put some gold on it, I guess. Not feeling the blood idea though, I believe in the KISS rule and prefer simple designs.
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>>1078404
i was thinking more along the color scheme of the kaiser, maby as a double border thing. cut the ones you have in half and replace with red
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>>1078392

Very nice. It would probably look even better with the bird centered in the flag, though.

Also, It would be great to have some kind of circle on the flag, to symbolise the belt. Maybe instead of a golden lining like BR said, yoou could paint a thick golden circle behind the eagle?
If you want to be really fancy, you could use it to finish the top half of the skull.
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>>1078151
But we are Totally Zeon, I mean a group of colonies wanting freedom from a corrupt and often incompetent government, led by a very charismatic leader.
Also.. We are gonna colony drop the earth at some point, There is no argument, it was the thread one plan
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>>1078420
but we wont be gassing the colony
we are zeon without the war crimes
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>>1078420
As long as Roarke doesn't become this settings Zeon Deikun and gets assassinated and replaced by a bunch of psychopaths...wait if that happens... Dio would become this settings Char....
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>>1078417
Did it that way because the Prussian flag is off-center. It looks nice to me.

Anyway, current requests
>outline bird in gold
annoying but doable, it might look good if I can do it right
>gold circle
easy, but I'd have to shrink the bird a lot and it might not look good
>double border
easy, not my thing but whatever I'll do it
>center bird
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>>1078434
you're the one making this, if you don't like it don't it man it's okay, i'm content with what you made already.
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>>1078438
It's not like I have anything better to do. And it might look good, I haven't seen it. I just think it won't.
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>>1078426
Exactly Hopefully it will be a colony built for the express purpose of dropping on earth
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>>1078475
you know what?
lets just drag a really big rock and not waste a expensive colony
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>>1078475
>You ever wonder why the colony is shaped like a giant cone?
>Or why it has that fuckhuge thruster on the other end?

>Purely coincidence.
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>>1078426
We don't even have to, Fairchild will do it for us at one point or another.

>>1078417
Instead of a golden circle, make it a circle of 8 spheres, one for each sector of the belt, also have them have a black outline to have a better contrast with the white of the background.

>>1078431
>Dio becomes char
This would be sad... But maybe awesome at the same time.
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>>1078485
But Roarke is char
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>>1078485
No, Floyd Beck was Char, or at least that char clone or something... Roarke is 2 or three different characters at the same time.
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>>1078572
the only main character (not side character like melon head over here) that's based on anyone else is clemmy
but only on the looks now, she wouldn't just go darth vader on a group of younglings for no reason
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>>1078587
Nah, I meant pic based.

Sam is based on Yuuki Kei
Fatima is based on Lalah(And another girl who idk)
Lori is based on a mage from Fate(too long name)
Karen and Siren use pics from various characters.

And the list goes on...
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>>1078621
oh.
whats fate?
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>>1078649
Fate/Stay night
that one anime with the immensely dense protag where mages summon heros of legend to battle (the protag summons a female king arthur named Saber)
The image used for Lori is another mage from that series iirc.

At least I think that's the one.
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>>1078572
No i don't mean what he looks like i mean his character archetype is pretty much char, Pilot leading through sheer force of charisma and all
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>>1078649
Fate/Genderbent

The series about taking historical figures and giving them tits. Or just getting rid of their dicks.
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>>1078649
Fate/stay expanded universe.

And I know Karen's original source pics were from sakura taisen.
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>>1078649
>>1078671
Also half the characters are Saber. Seibah.
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>>1078621
Lt Mappa is based on Carta Issue. I would have used Selvaria Bles personally, despite my love for Iron Blooded Orphans.
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Well I suppose I should tell you guys, this is going to take a while. I didn't realize for the longest time a 2 pixel wide border is essentially invisible. 3 pixels looks a bit fat, but it's better than being essentially nonexistent.
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>>1078722
that looks fucking great actually
if it's all like that then it will be wonderful
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>>1078722
Can you make also a 2 pixel version? it would be good to have something to compare to.
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>>1078746
Didn't save the 2 pixel version, and I don't want to re-do it. Here's a one pixel version though.
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>>1078755
Hmmm....

Maybe I could get my brother to make a one pixel and two pixel versions... Don't worry, thank you for your time and effort kouhai.
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>>1078722
>>1078755
Honestly the gold is too hard to make out against the white background.
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>>1078969
I think that's just horizontal lines. It's a lot easier to make out on the wings. I think I'm going to go back and add an extra line to the parts that are hard to make out.

It would also have been easier to see if I had been able to find a larger flag image. Too late for that now.
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>>1079018
this is actually great, also seeing this?
maby a small golden border over the black one to give it some color
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>>1079018
Maybe put the eagle against a yellow star background?
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>>1079032
Maybe. I'll do it after I get done with the symbol.

>>1079040
Same problem as putting a circle around it, I would have to shrink the bird if you wanted an entire star, otherwise it would either get cut off at the black or go over it.
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>>1079046
How about giving it a crown of stars or something? I dunno man, just putting things out there.
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Oh yeah, I think I forgot to mention. I want this to be fair, so I'm going to be making every version in this post >>1078434 along with a version with gold trim around the black border and now the two version with stars to see what everyone likes the best. At least it's pretty generic so it could be used for any name we choose.
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Well, I just finished G gundam, holy fuck that was fun!
Now then... do I continue on this gundam streak or branch out to other mecha...
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>>1079137
Have you seen Eva or Giant Robo?
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>>1079176
I've seen Eva if you mean Evangelion... I got so confused around episode 24...
Haven't seen the other one you mentioned though.
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>>1079182
Giant Robot is so good give it a watch
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>>1079192
hmm 7 episode OVA? am I looking at the right one? ran from 1992 to 1998?
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>>1079199
Yup thats the one
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>>1079137
Try Iron Blooded Orphans. Its new and has great animation and plot. I've seriously considered running a quest based in that universe but I simply don't have time. You would have been CSG's 2nd group leader with pic related as your initial weapon.
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>>1079203
Cool, I'll start on it tomorrow then. Gotta do class work now.
>>1079209
Saw the first few episodes a few months ago before I really got into mecha and went on this mecha marathon. I remember liking what I saw but... not sure why I stopped.
Ok current line up is something like:
Giant Robo
IBO
Turn-A Gundam (I keep hearing that this ones good)
Outlaw Star
More Gundam (00 or Victory I guess?)
???
I'm wary of asking /m/ for recommendations since they seems to have multiple joke recommendation graphics ready for such questions.
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>>1079232
Outlaw Star really isn't mecha though. It's just that the ships have arms and grapple with each other.
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>>1079240
Still excellent. And has a fine member of the starwind family.
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>>1079240
ah ok, I'll still watch it but maybe later on then, any other recommendations?

I've seen:
Pretty much all Early UC Gundam
G Gundam
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Gun X Sword
Seven Samurai (this is where that one general we played checkers with is from iirc, can't remember his name in this quest though)
Zoids (this was along time ago and iirc there's multiple different ones, not sure which one I watched)
There's also probably a few I'm forgetting...
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>>1079263
Gunbuster
M.D. Giest
Genocyber
Eureka Seven
Getter Robo ovas
Gurren Lagann
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>>1079263
>>1079274
Voltron
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>>1078420

I have not forgotten.
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>>1079475
..well that is a concerning thing. Though earth is a good distance away from the belt. Getting a colony there would be tricky.
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>>1079497
first thing first. we must concur luna! then WE TAKE EARTH! THEN WE TAKE EVERY THING TO THE SUN AND BACK!
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>>1078690

Selvaria is much too serious to be Lt. Mappa.
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>>1079508
this is me by the way.
oops
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>>1079508
I'm sure Josiah would be thrilled to hear Roarke Starwind's reinforcing words about Luna.
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>>1079018

Out of curiosity (and it's up to the players which they like best so I'm not commenting) why did you include gold?
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>>1079518
Brazil suggested it, it went went well with black and white once I started, and it was also part of the Prussian flag. So basically it just fit well.
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>>1079518
i like it
also it would represent? something. like we were pirates with a heart of GOLD or something
at least that's what the historians will say. really it just makes it look good.
mr. wong, when you made this, did you ever think it would get this far?
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>>1079518
>>1079525
Also I realized half way through the tail during the third time I was doing this that making it to the standard I wanted would take forever, and that there was no way I was going to do it again. I was originally going to do any color, but that's not going to happen unless I find a faster method. I'm not going to stare at an 800% magnification of the Iron Kestrel's symbol ever again.

I'm like 10 or 20 minutes from being done by the way. Do you want to hold it to a vote?
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>>1079525

Just curious. Black and white were Kestrel colors as a pirate band, black and white and gold works well for a kingdom.
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That was actually much faster than I guessed. Does anyone else think I need to thicken the outline of the tail?
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I remembered an anime I saw a while back... the opening made me think of what sort of bullshit the greenlady could pull...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESMO72Srz-w
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Two semi-random thoughts.

If this was an anime, the low death count among your people would be inexcusable. However, their survival is a reward for your ridiculous skill in battle. If you'd done more poorly, people would probably have died trying to protect you.

Second, the low death count among enemies that aren't Avalonian death-before-dishonor types or Green Skulls is somewhat based on tropes that apply to fighter pilots, you don't shoot someone who's bailed out, and when you know your mech is fucked you hit that eject button. The Praetorians, for instance, didn't even have to roll because they one and all spent Luck/Maneuver to make that roll a certainty and some of them were already flicking the switch when the Kaiser's fist's shadow blocked out the backup sensor core on their torsos.
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>>1079554
mmmm
i love you.
need's less blinding white though
kinda hard to look at
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>>1079554

I like it.

>>1079577

I like the blinding white, too, it creates an impression of starkness and empty space...which the Belt kind of is.
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>>1079588
well when you put it like that you might want to make it black or gray to simulate space. with little dots for stars.
but i getch ya
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>>1079577
Yeah, think that comes from the gold trim. The Prussian flag doesn't have that much gold (and the gold it does have is lighter) and it's surrounded by black. I don't think the gold border idea would be good because of that.

Or it could be used to be more noticeable. Strike fear into Roarke's enemies by being recognizable like the Kaiser.

>>1079588
That works too.

So everyone's OK with it being the flag? Whatever the name we choose is. I changed the file name for that.
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>>1077819
It'd be kestrelalia if anything.
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>>1079627
Hawkland.
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>>1079608
I'd wait till the next thread when more people will be here
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>>1079630
Eagalia
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>>1079632
OK. Wong can put it up to a vote then. I'm working on the other suggestions now.
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>>1079632
well i enjoy eisentor as a name
if only as a military base
but ya let's do this when we are rourke. ya?
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>>1079576
Well, considering the state of the war and humanity, killing people not IN the war is the sort of thing that would fuck you over. Besides, Roarke has a mean grudge streak. Anyone who killed one of his would be the next to die.
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>>1079576
We are clearly a fighting anime with mechs rather than a traditional mech anime.
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Here's the star one. I have no idea how to my symmetrical stars, but I figured their asymmetry suited a pirate nation's flag. If anyone does know how to make symmetrical stars, tell me and I'll get on it.
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>>1079729
Forgot the image, of course.
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>>1079630
>>1079642
I like the sound "Eisentor Empire", but lest be honest here... Most of the time we are just going to be called "The Empire" by the people that aren't in our dominions. So having a name with a good meaning ends up a better choice than just sounding cool... and Eisentor becomes the objectively best choice.

>>1079554
Transform the 1/4 of the black bars more closer to the center into dark red to keep with the Kaiser color theme, but make it as darker you can get it without becoming invisible to leave it subtle and not go too far from the original prussian color scheme.
>pic related, pick one or create a better one.

>>1079576
>>1079588
Hey Wong... be honest with us... There is any chance of Fairchild getting out of this alive? Or the final arc MUST end with either she or Roarke dead?
There can be only one?
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And the one with a circle. I don't know how to make it more creative. Any suggestions?
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>>1079736
Can you make them eight, trimed with black and filled with gold?

Also, you're incredible kouhai, we love you.
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>>1079642
Condoran
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>>1079744
The resolution seems too small to handle that circle... Looks a bit weird to me.
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>>1079745
Why 8?

Also, I'll get on with adding the Red, but I don't know if I'll find out that'll look good. I'll try.

>>1079751
You all suggest suck terrible names.

Parrot Island is clearly the only choice.
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>>1079757
Sparrowtopia you pleb
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>>1079757
No, no, a better name would be the Booby Belt
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>>1079762
The Belt of Misfit Avians.
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>>1079757
we would divide the belt into 8 different provinces. each with a different lord. who is beholden to our family.
most likly miles and richard will share one
the stone soldiers might get one
the weeb will get one
red will be with ours so we can count her out
hmmmm
who would get the other ones?
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>>1079752
How's this?
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>>1079767
>not blue tit bay
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>>1079781
How's this red?
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>>1079810
oh god YES
just add the star/circle thing and it will be complete!
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>>1079769
>both too general and too long

Shit taste confirmed.

Seagullania
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>>1079819
Avion
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>>1079774
>>1079810
The original plan was to have 7 Dukes and a King...Which now will be a Kaiser!

Each of the Dukes would be one of our captains, so:
>Red Siren
>Oda
>Flint
>Harlock
>Mudd
>Lori(Maybe, depending on that goes)
>The Tourney Champion OF KIRKWALL

Also, the original plan was to have the council of Dukes vote to decide who of them would become the next Kaiser when the actual one dies... But I prefer Thunder's Idea of Tanistry, with the Dukes voting which STARWIND will rule the Belt.

Also... EPIC
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>>1079814
Ehhh I don't really want to add everything. It'll be cluttered.

Also, didn't realize I could pull this joke until now.

>>1079833
Was that approved? I'll make it, but if we're not going to do that, I'll do it after everything else.
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>>1079810
MEIN GOTT!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI-vQUOEha8
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>>1079831
Thunderbirda-mania?
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>>1079833
red cant be a ARCHduke
(they will have dukes and then counts under them because that's kinda to much land for one person) she our wife.
lori cant becuase she will be our wife if i get my way
mudd. maby (whose he based on again)
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>>1079842
Red is must... 3 Stars seems just random, cool, but what would it even mean?
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>>1079741

I'm kind of surprised by this question about Fairchild, but...

It all depends on how well she rolls. A battle between her and a viewpoint character is as inevitable as the sunset, whether in or outside a mech.

>>1079744

Not a huge fan of the circle, honestly, but I'm a bit minimalist. Why not repost all the completed flag versions in the next thread tomorrow (technically today) and let everyone decide communally?
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>>1079870
Freedom? I could put them around the bird and it would symbolize flying through space.

>>1079872
I don't like the circle either, I can't think of anything creative to do with it. Also I figured I'd get them out now for people to see and critique.
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>>1079872
eight stars surrounding it would be cool
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Why not make our flag in the style of a famous 80s album cover?
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>>1079872
Also, I called sick from work to finish all this and plan on drinking myself to death, so you should probably save all the pictures people like in case I don't make it to the next thread.
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About the flag, I'm honestly REALLY not a flag of red or even more than minimal gold, it's too busy and too Nazi Germany. A few German touches are alright, but you're not adopting German culture or becoming Germany reborn or anything. Black and white are Kestrel colors, and I like the stark feel before Brazilia and False Equation (which is still a silly name) started tarting it up.
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>>1079831
>wanting to be mistaken for filthy greenmen lovers

You think you know a person.
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>>1079833
>being this Avalonian

OVERRULED!
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>>1079883
Does it need to be creative? This is a symbol of a country, not a highschool arts project. Sometimes simplicity is good enough.
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>>1079864
Man... Its not that simple, we are building a govern system here, not just something to fade away to be replaced when Roarke dies...

Thats why the Dukes would be based on the captains... And about Lori and Red... They will both end up being our waifus if everything goes as planned, and what would be the point of turning them into Arch-Dukes if they are already married to the GREATEST KAISER OF SOL!?

Don't make "If you marry the Kaiser you become a Arch-Duke" a tradition or someone in WILL explore this to use in power games, it will be just a matter of time until some descendant make a bad choice and end up with "Fairchild #2" as an ARCHDUKE.
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>>1079899
>silly name
why i never!
also yeah i was just throwing suggestions at the wall and seeing which ones stuck
i'm fine with the gold out line and original if anyone else is. i'm just super pumped for our empire to rise.
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Alright, this one is giving me some serious "Space Iraq" vibes.

Operation Beltic Shield/Storm?Freedom when?

>>1079908
I mean in terms of it having meaning. A nation's flag is a symbol of that nation, and every part of it symbolizes something about that nation.

As is "lol the circle stands for belt" is the only excuse that can come into my simple mind.
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>>1079884

There won't be any eight stars. The last thing you want is to go Gjallarhorn and start having set noble families.

>>1079885

Overruled but I get the sentiment.
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>>1079923
Forgot the pic again.

>>1079899
Honestly I don't want the red either, the original with gold trim is my favorite. I'm just doing whatever people ask.
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>>1079915
which is why that doesn't happen
if those two become wives. they cant become archdukes or members of the high councils or jarls or whatever they are called if they marry us
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>>1079864

Out of curiosity, is English your second language? Your typing really needs work, I'm sorry to say.

Also any idea of Dukes is flat-out overruled and not going to happen because I can see the oncoming civil war from there and because a lot of it comes from two Avalon-aligned namefags bouncing the same idea off each other.
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Should we have a fist somewhere on the flag? they've been very representative of roarke, grasping what he desires and striking down those that threaten what he cares for, not sure if that translates to a good imperial symbol but...
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>>1079933
o-oh...
so this is what love is.
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I found the perfect flag for us, its got a star and everything
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>>1079948
Oh, look. Our first tourist.
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>>1079948
>outdoing me this badly
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>>1079925
Yeah, that has been going poorly for everyone involved. LOOKING AT YOU, IOK.
>>1079923
But we have no purpose for a bunch of that stuff. The black, white and Kestrel symbol makes sense due to the founding and it basically being a pirate nation. The gold trim helps accent the symbol. but the stars? The red? Way too much there. If I was designing a crest maybe it would consist of the bird and the 4 major crews that started it, but that is a different beast.
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>>1079933

And I'm asking you to get rid of the red and get rid of the stars. The stars are coming from two players trying to push an agenda of having a Council of Dukes because a country in different circumstances had them. The Skullhawk is already a pretty complex sigil without adding to it.
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>>1079899
I was not trying to be nazi germany... the Idea was just to keep it loyal to the Kaiser color scheme, thats why I asked him to make the red thin and darker, to not be a very noticeable part... Like the Kaiser Thrusters and Claws...

>>1079907
I SWEAR THAT IT WASN'T MY IDEA! I SWEAR ON MY HONOR AND THE NAME OF DON MINERVINO THAT I'M NOT TO BLAME FOR THIS ONE!

Seriously, my suggestion was to make a megacorp and rule the belt in a similar manner to an ancap government...Ironically, the dukes Ideas came form the Kaiser element, and then got stronger with Thunder suggestions on ruling that he learned from CK2.

...PLOT TWIST!
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>>1079938
no. just a very crappy keypad and not thinking and looking at what i type. i'm trying. sorry
also i'm not avalonian at all.
i'm all for a independent belt. a third option in the conflict.
but yeah the archduke thing is kinda avalonian i can kinda see.
how about a council that has to be voted in?
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>>1079953
See >>1079933

>>1079956
Alright. It's good for me anyway. Like I said, simple's my favorite.
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>>1079956
Am I the only one who keeps forgetting the bird is also a skull?
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>>1079948
>In an area with lots of resources
>Surrounded by potential enemies
>Western civilization on one side, Islam on the other
>Pretty fucking tiny but with disproportionate political importance
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>>1079956
So thats a no to this design huh?
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>>1079957
>tfw you shilled for avalon so hard that no matter what you suggest people think that its a part of a conspiration to have the Avalonians ruling the belt
I don't know if I should be proud or sad by this...
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>>1079966
I think so. Though I do sometimes mistake the nose holes for lungs. After Wong pointed it out I could never un see it.

>>1079968
Your entire point is invalid because you posted worst girl.
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>>1079972
>worst girl
Aqua is best for bullying!
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>>1079969
That is the ugliest thing ever.
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>>1079933
I loved it...
But Wongs is mad about it... So...
>>1079956
>>1079957
>>1079969
Thunder, say the truth here, you were there in those threads when we were discussing it!
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>>1079971
so people think i'm a avalon lover when i'm really into the belt all the way is because of you? dammit ! the belt is not for avalon! remove vegetable! remove jovion!
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>>1079969
>"So my lord, what would you like on your crest?"
>"Everything."
>"But.."
>"EVERYTHING."
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>>1079953

That's what I'm trying to avoid, actually.

A generation or two from now, with Flint and Mudd retired, who's to say that the Stone Soldiers will still be relevant and Mudd's crew will still be a bunch of provisional low-class UJCIDF troops and pirates who were pressganged into the military and then freed by Roarke?

Tanistry itself is a good idea, but what I want at all cost to avoid is the establishment of noble families besides the Starwinds themselves, because those families would have no reason to exist (and because it's too Avalonian). What I would prefer would be to give elector status to the major captains and colonial governors of the day, and the number of those will surely flux to the point where I don't want it tied to a number of stars on a flag.
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>>1079986
>loving Space Iraq
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>>1079972

I actually think that the nose holes resembling lungs is a great additional meaning given the fact that eagles are known for their screech and Roarke loves full-throated 80s music.
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>>1079992
sorry wong. got to happy with all the empire building going on
so a electoral council of advisors with a kaiser(hey i like the name for a leader leave me alone) on top?
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>>1079968
>We're the space Jews
Fuck this shitty solar system

>>1079980
You would be shocked

>>1079989
It was a prestige thing, most royalty would put all the territories they reigned over along with all the different awards and titles they we're given to show how they we're justified to rule the people, since no of those faggots had that many metals and countries
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>>1079972

Every girl in Konosuba is the best girl.
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>>1080015
that looks fake
god does it look fake
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>>1079992
I am fine by that. Was sort of my idea for the Belt Company as well. Less one mega corp and more a group of engineers and teams that put out a variety of machines with the better ones becoming mainstays.
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>>1080024
Its not, its the personal heraldry of Charles V of the Holy Roman Empire, Spain and its holdings, and Italy
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>>1079986

I'm not mad, I just think you pushed too hard in a direction the flag guy himself didn't like and made it too ornate.
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>>1080024

It's Spanish, believe me that's how Spanish heraldry just is.

>>1080015
>PLVS VLTRA

We All Might now.
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>mfw I made 11 flags and the first was my favorite
I can't tell if it's me being nice or if it is autism

>>1080035
I figured I wouldn't know which I liked best until I made it. It's just that none matched up to the original.
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>>1080046
but it's so unsymmetrical!
who would think that is pleasing to the eye?
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>>1080058
That's not the point. It's a display of power. "Look at all the land I own and control" basically.
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>>1080054
What about Charles IV?
>>1080058
Lots of flags are unsymmetrical.
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>>1080054
>somebody took the time to type all that out
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>>1080058

Because it's the coat of arms of this guy >>1080054


Really his heraldry is being quite modest. He's gattaing all of the coats of arms he's entitled to, it stops being symmetrical when you start quartering your shield.
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>>1080070
>>1080066
and it's horrible
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>>1080046
Fuck Spanish Heraldry, and its fifteen kingdoms

>>1080054
Charles V is best boy, he just wanted a unified christian Europa

>>1080058
Its not why they did it. Spain was made up of the kingdoms of Navarra, Castile, Aragon, Leon, Gallacia, and Andulsia. You had to put them all on your crest
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>>1080077
It seems to have worked pretty well though all things considered. Just look at all the shit he owns.
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>>1080088
Strategic marriages and interbreeding does that
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>>1079992
>That's what I'm trying to avoid, actually.
Wouldn't let the player roll with mad choices still be more fun and questlike than trying to take the control on this? Even if we screwed up hard and end in a civil war... Wouldn't it be better for the story and the feeling of player agency?


>A generation or two from now, with Flint and Mudd retired, who's to say that the Stone Soldiers will still be relevant and Mudd's crew will still be a bunch of provisional low-class UJCIDF troops and pirates who were pressganged into the military and then freed by Roarke?
I was mostly just going with the flow when I didn't get much support on the megacorp idea, but... The way I see it, it would be more like a reward to the families of those who helped making the belt great again or something... but I understand your vision on this.

>Tanistry itself is a good idea, but what I want at all cost to avoid is the establishment of noble families besides the Starwinds themselves, because those families would have no reason to exist (and because it's too Avalonian). What I would prefer would be to give elector status to the major captains and colonial governors of the day, and the number of those will surely flux to the point where I don't want it tied to a number of stars on a flag.
The 8 stars would be to represent the 8 sectors of the belt, not rulers and governors... And about the "too Avalonian", man, this is an absolutist empire where the Starwind family rule as they seems-fit, they are already very monarchist anyway, no?

But I got to admit that even if they went nto more avalonian ways, they would never be truly like Avalon, as they came from a total different context.
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>>1080097
I for one am severely against having multiple noble houses.
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I've also just realized, during the entire time I've been making mechs in this quest, only two were humanoid. Along with all the flags, I think that makes me bad a mecha.
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>>1080097
Except a bunch of us are also against this idea? Shit man, with all we've seen from both sides doing that sort of thing ends in tears. Not only that, but having noble houses after dealing with the shit like the Jovian elite or Avalon is a stupid idea even in character.
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>>1080097
sad to say but i would like different noble families. but like, there are laws that state the nobles themselve would have to actually do something and can change the laws with out the people's support. so that would stop most sociopaths and to stop inbreeding make it a law that noble houses can intermarry. you have to marry with commoners and not family
but bleh i don't care. people just scream because i like this idea compared to the idea of rick and miles family not being important after a while.
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>>1080103
>>1080112
Thats okay, I don't think that it would work very well too anyway, as it could become a problem if the Starwind end up disagreeing with the Noble houses and so on... The governors Ideas is better in this way.
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>>1078683
Red Saber, Best Saber
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>>1080082

And this is why I'm against enshrining our original crews as noble families, in part because then we're skipping a lot of key people.

Hm, now that I think of it, add "key personnel of the previous Pirate King's flagship" to the list of electors. First Mate, Bosun, and Helmsman at least.
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>>1080122
>Giving direct power to the population
>In your private propriety
NO.

Thats why governors are better to admin the sectors... They are easier to susbtitute...
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>>1080125
If you take a piece of shit and put a hat on it, it's still shit.
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>>1080125
>implying fake assassin isnt best saber.
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>>1080147
it would make any noble less of a jackass if his main goal is to keep his people fed and happy instead of giving himself giant party's and waste shittons of food.
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Man Super Robot Wars really makes me want the Kaiser to get a super attack
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>>1079864
Lancer
GAAAAAAAYYYY
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>>1080097
>Wouldn't let the player roll with mad choices still be more fun and questlike than trying to take the control on this? Even if we screwed up hard and end in a civil war... Wouldn't it be better for the story and the feeling of player agency?

You have plenty of opportunities for a civil war without arbitrarily creating dukes and such, and among other things...it feels inconsistent with Roarke's own behavior. None of his titles have ever been self-appointed. Captain Ozark made First Mate Starwind into Captain Starwind. Captain Oda insisted Captain Starwind become Admiral Starwind. Now, the Avalonians have somewhat romantically christened Admiral Starwind as Pirate King Starwind. Since Roarke's source of strength seems to come not from a title but from being Roarke, it seems unlike him to go "no we need Dukes" even if it sounds cool to some of the players.

There also just doesn't seem to be overwhelming support for appointing nobles. The structure of Captains and recognition of them as the law on their own vessels is a thing that already exists and that by player consensus Roarke has supported, the idea of actual noble families just...doesn't come from anywhere.
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>>1080157
Except there is also the issue of subversion and general stupidity. Pure democracies tend to have some nasty issues and in heavy populations that sort of thing takes forever to reach a consensus.
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>[Kestrels start discussing the future of the belt]
>mfw sleep deprived again.
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>>1080122

Whenever someone comes up with a very idealistic-sounding political system held together with "there would be laws to make sure they do their job", I have one question. What laws, specifically, and enforced by whom? Whenever you give a duty to a higher power, whether law or government or god, you must specify how it is to be done.
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>>1080170

All of Diarmuid's problems came from being too good at getting girls.

>>1080168

This is one of the reasons for the drones.
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>>1080197
i don't know.
i like it when it's a already corrupt system and i'm fucking around in it. usually starting a revolution
maby we should make a giant shackled ai who's only job and function is to keep the law in place. also it can grow at all so no worries about the skynet thing.
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>>1080157

So how do you ensure that his main goal is to keep his people fed and happy?
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>>1080157
>implying the population wouldn't use this to take power from the Kaiser's hands.
>Implying that the nobles wouldn't use their economic power to bait the population into doing what they want.
>Implying that statists democracies work.
>Implying that we wouldn't end up becoming the federation with all the nobles just using this to their own interest, or worse, socialist parties using the system to push their agenda of the day.
>Implying that it makes any sense when the Belt is the absolutist dominion of the Starwind family and is already in their best interest to make it work for assuring that it will continue to give them money.
>Implying that Jupiter wouldn't use this to have control over us.
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>>1080218
..please stop. You are reaching BR and Thunderbird at their levels of bad with these sort of ideas.
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>>1080219
the ide i have is kinda a elected noble. if he's a asshole? they can ask the other noble houses to kick his ass. and the current king/kaiser would elect a new one.
also the idea is based around that the nobles cannot intermarry to other houses and must marry commoners for love. like regular people
it probably wouldn't workout but i like the idea
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>>1080218

Yes, but that's the problem, isn't it? This is Roarke's, or rather, your own system and setting it up to be corrupt from the beginning is pointless. As a bit of general advice, never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever start a revolution without knowing the final shape of the country you want to create or you will make a hellscape far worse than the original. This is the reason why I despise most protestors, history is full of people who wanted to fight and destroy but built nothing when the war was won and created misery and death on a scale far greater than the despot before them did. Look at the French revolution or the Arab Spring, for instance. All of those deaths, just so new dictators could take power.
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>>1080197
I think that he meant using the Starwinds to rule the nobles into being ruled by the people...
Oh, it makes the people have more power over the Starwind's power base than the ruling family! Geez, how did that happen?

>>1080218
>Literally Psycho-Pass
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
PLEASE STOP
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>>1080227
>implying
also any form of government will eventually become a horrible mess of assholes shiting on each other. no matter what we do. we will die. the our heir will die then a civil war will happen between his sons and every thing will go to shit
i'm kinda liking the skynet controls the laws idea more and more actually
at least a giant mechanical tyrant will FOLLOW the rule made for him
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>>1080211
I like to imagine endgame Kaiser will be similar to Genoin GAI or Geminion Ray

An example of what I'm talking about:

Genion GAI's Nibelung Annihilation
https://youtu.be/oKffOSjig6E?t=1m52s

Geminion Ray's Hound Penetrator
https://youtu.be/jF7jwGVUWUo?t=40s

Hibiki's unit was one of the few decently animated things in Z3
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>>1080240
Except that leads to the nobles just colluding anyways. Then the nobles suck up to the leader and then things are still shit for the regular person.
>>1080257
Bit of a difference between natural death of something and shooting the thing in the head because 'we all die someday'. Seriously, just stop man.
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>>1080240

I'm speaking purely hypothetically here and not in the context of the Iron Kestrels, but...

The problem is this, starting from the beginning. Who is "they"? The people as a group? Look at America right now to see how easy it is for moneyed individuals with the right connections to create a widespread-seeming outcry with the aid of a sympathetic media. Will you get ALL of the people to agree? No, never. But let's be optimistic and say the legal mechanisms exist for a vote of no confidence, By those means, he could be removed peacefully...but then he isn't a noble, he's a public servant, and ostensibly his rule won't be passed through his bloodline because you already have the mechanism of democracy in place. If the mechanism of removal involves the other noble houses kicking his ass and removing him, well...if I was a noble, I would certainly try to foment public discord among the populace of my rivals, then say "I was asked to invade and remove this man" as I launch my invasion. Also, if the Kaiser chooses a new one, that's not electing, that's appointing, something entirely different.

>must marry commoners for love

What if a noble loves another noble?

I get what you're going for, but all of it needs to be thought through, it has a lot of the language of democracy but not so much of the substance, and where it does have democratic tinges are in the places where the mob would do the most damage.
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>>1080242
okay im go to bed after this. also, sorry for getting into a big argument
when i'm playing a political game, i ALWAYS find out about the system and who is in control and why i'm revolutionising and how and what it will become. it's a subconscious thing to make it corrupt so i know that i can't trust anyone and i know i need to get as much blackmail as i can on as many people i need to.
sorry for being a ass, again
i kinda need to go to bed and calm down, stop being such a idiot.
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>>1080242
This... Thats why I think that any form of ancapism to work would need to start as a manageable dominion with force to protect himself and an absolutist ruler that took the land by legal means(which is mostly by not killing random people to take their land or something).

Going "LETS DETROY THIS GOVERN AND ASSUME THAT EVERYTHING WILL GO WELL" is stupid, and would just end ith a vacuum of power... Which could be used to set your own separatist dominions maybe, but would cost several lives in a bloodbath.

>>1080257
>Not having any faith in humanity
>Baning people from marring who they like because "THEY COULD BE CONSPIRING AGAINST THE STATE BY DOING SO!".
What....
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>>1080168
Could always go for crushing weight of the mountain. Which I cant figure out how to fit into a screenshot so I'll just put up a link.
http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Feng-Shen-Ji/Vol-002-Ch-040--Fist-Fight?id=330667#15
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>>1080263

Remember the Kaiser's attacks are all fist-based and that it has a drone system. I promise that Kaiser super attacks will be both mechanically and visibly impressive, but they'll be within the bounds of what the Kaiser itself is capable of doing.
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>>1080279
Nah, its okay, we just love to have big arguments and make drama about it here in MSPQ.
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>>1080307
I know, but the basic idea of "mech just goes all kung fu on some bitches and rapes face" still applies.
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>>1080308
>>1080292
i'm very much a pessimist/realist on the subject of human nature.
also i did enjoy our debate
good night my avalonian friend!
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>>1080312
>How I play Gundam Breaker 3
Martial Arts fist 2 op
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>>1080318
One day I'll have a PS4 and be able to play my weeb mech games. Fucking japs putting nothing on xbox.
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>>1080307
Man, I want to do a Variable Formation attack with Soul C for the possible Gerin fight.
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>>1080318
How good are the english subtitles, and how playable is it? I've been thinking about getting it
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>>1080324
Thats why I bought mine
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>>1080328
Really good, haven't noticed too much engrish. Its is 100% playable and plays fucking amazingly.
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>>1080314
Good night Kestrel friend.
Don't worry, one day our secret keikaku of avalonian domination will finally work!

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAA!
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>>1080331
Whats really making me butthurt is that the new EDF game is PS4 only but all the others were also on Xbox.
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I am so on a NSA watchlist for looking up these Arabic phrases for tomorrow's game.
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>>1080307
Wong, small question, does the Palomino II have a shield or maybe a melee weapon? Or is it Full Firepower?

It could be good to have a notion on how much Mudd's mech is exactly... And I'm a little anxious to watch him fight someone to see what he is capable of.

Also... Do you guys trust Mudd yet?
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>>1080384
We've all been there. I'm probably on a couple by now.
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>>1080279

You actually touched upon a central truth of politics already, which is that every system inevitably decays, so you're doing better than most people in my opinion.
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>>1080384
Considering the last 2 and a half years, it would not be a surprise if I am on one.
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>>1080384
Silly Wong you're already on them for talking about ((them))
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>>1080390
Oh yeah, I've run out of good tank ideas. Anyone got any?
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>>1080384
>tfw he thinks they haven't been here since thread one

There are at least three in thread right now.
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>>1080384
You know that at least part of the usual anons here work in information sevices... Right?

Why do you think that we have such a big number of lurkers? Why do you think that we keep getting new players even after 73 sessions?

>>1080414
Uhhh...Errr... What about a tank... ON ANOTHER TANK?!
(Flying tank with smaller tank drones magnetic glued on him)
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>>1080448
Tank with tank drones, alright. Better than my spider tank, at least.
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>>1080414
Melee tank in the lines of the Apocalypse tank from red alert 3?
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>>1080471
Can you even use melee weapons without arms?
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>>1080474
Why wouldnt you be able to?
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>>1080456
I actually liked it but was just too tired to give it attention at the time.
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>>1080482
It just doesn't seem like you could swing them. And ramming people like that British robot fighting show doesn't seem effective.

>>1080484
Haven't posted it. It's literally the Rolling Thunder without missiles or treads, but 6 mega heavy legs. It cost twice as much but has the same gun and everything. It's bad.
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>>1080488
Not a thing says you cant. Head mounted melee weapons are even mentioned in the manual. You could always say they have their own little manipulators, you are working with a robot after all.

That said I was just imagining a tank with a big grinder on the front and a magnetic harpoon.
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>>1080502
Huh. I'll do that after the drone one. I think I've come up with a really cancerous great idea.
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>>1080488
>>1080502
Also rashad had a shield on the torso that could move itself around so its not like people havent already done it.
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>>1080509
Problem is, that was possibly the worst idea for him. Every punch to that shield went straight to his torso and while it did get in the way, it made it to the point where we practically caved in his chest on parries alone.
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>>1080508
Any of you remember how Wong really hated the AWACS/ missile alpha idea that one guy had? I think I'm doing that in drone form.
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>>1080474

Of course you can, leg servo's even explicitly add a melee damage modifier,and state that any "claws, talons or other fancy protrusions from the feet must be bought as melee weapons." Of course, they need too be kept in the servo rather then handheld, but it would still work.

Alternative idea, you could make a literal scorpion tank, with a melee weapon in the tail and the gun(s) in the torso, head or forward legs.Or add a shield to the tail as well, keeping blows off your cockpit.
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>>1080520
Thats why you use it for hitting people rather than taking hits.
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Can't sleep... Really tried to, but just can't stay in bed today.

You know, even if we aren't going with the dukes idea, we could use some sort of "Baron" system to reward Miles, The captains and so on... I'm mostly basing this idea on what I know about portuguese nobility and don't really know the details, but as far as I know... The Brazilian nobility titles weren't hereditary, and were appointed by the Emperor himself to people he wanted to gift with this honor and those who he let it to be sold to.

We could use a similar system to appoint or Captains and other to be non-hereditary nobles and maybe have taxes imunity or other priviledges... What do you guys think?


>be me
>go to the wikipedia to research this info and confirm it
>find "List of baronates on Brazil"
>my face is pic related now
>Remember all that family stories about my ancestors
>Search for the name of the land they came from
>FIND BARONATE
>Going crazy by finally finding the name of the last master of the dominion, which was never told to me because the document of ownership of the land is in possession of a distant relative.
>Discover his name.
>The dates of birth, nomination as noble and death all match with the legends.
I just discovered more info on my family story than most of my living relatives know... THE LEGENDS WERE TRUE GUYS! THE LEGENDS WERE TRUE!
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>>1080708
>implying being descended from nobility is a big deal
Practically all of europe is related to Charlemagne and about 16 million men are directly descended from Genghis khan.
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>>1080720
Not really a big deal, but proving it is kinda cool and funny.

Do you know what is even more funny? Brazilian nobility didn't even got any real legal priviledges over the rest of the people, they had the same rights and everything... And people paid huge amounts of money to join the nobility only because of the glamour associated to it.

My case is specially ironic because my direct ancestor was the BASTARD child of the baron... But the Baron left part of his lands to him anyway, as he raised him among his half brothers and probably thought that it would be unfair to leave the boy have a common life in the case of his premature death... And my family to this day still have this document... The problem is that was "technically invalidated" by communist leaning laws that took lands and other assets for arbitrary motives some decades ago...

So this matter resides in a sort of limbo that ends up determined by whoever is in power at the moment...

But anyway this thing goes, I'm going to try to see how far I can get with this whole story, just for the "HUE BR" of it.
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>>1079509
She is however much more palatable to look at. Also, reasonably sure she once dressed up as max
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>>1080775
This one?
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>>1079744
Instead of a circle why not just put a 3 pixel line of white through the trim, closer to the Kestral then the Edge of the flag, Since not only would that represent the belt but it also matches the rest of the flags minimalist nature
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>>1081146
This one I think
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>>1081160
The problem with that is that I would not only have to essentially do the same thing I did to put the gold trim on (which I am never doing again) I would also have to cover up the black of the bird symbol with the white, which would mess it its dimensions and make it look weird.
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>>1081187
Hm... I think that Carta fits the personality better... She even have that weaboo makeup!
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>>1081199
A dark thought occured to me that if she managed to somehow get the seed of Oda, Iok would actually be the most logical choice for their child.
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>>1081187
cousin?
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>>1081191
Not the trim on the bird, the one on the Top and bottom of the flag
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>>1081207
>IOK
HHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
> if she managed to somehow get the seed of Oda
Oh, I wonder how she could do that! Its not like they have a story together or anything, right?
XD
>>1081208
Very unlikely, I don't even think that Avalon was part of the CUSS, so them and the jovians are likely centuries apart of each other...
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>>1081220
Ah, alright. I'll see what it looks like.
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>>1081227
Well, since Wong didn't like me making these without giving my own opinion, I'll say I don't really like this one. I'll move it farther back in the border, but I don't think it'll make me like it more.

There's one right after this one by the way. The line is 6 pixels instead of 3.
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>>1081246
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>>1081246
I like this one. Classy and simple at it's best.
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While we anxiously await the new thread, i might as well dump the latest revision of the Gyrfalcon in here, to finish it in this thread at least.

http://pastebin.com/S662SYPW

Not much changed, except for the purist in me caving in and replacing the torso guns with fragile beam cannons, because beam weapons are just mathematically superior in this system and less weight = better. Spent the cp's freed up by losing weight reduction on an extra pumpkinseed missile, moving some stuff around, and fixing some errors i made with space reduction and weapon mating in the last version.

Oh, and it felt a bit sluggish, so i added some more speed.
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>>1081248
This one looks better actually. We'll have to see if people like this or the one without lines better next thread I suppose..
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>>1081248

That looks pretty good actually. But honestly i prefer the original one, with just the bird and the black borders. With all good flags, simplicity is key.

On the other hand, i'm now wondering what the flag would look like with the colours inverted (white bird on a black background).
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>>1081263
>because beam weapons are just mathematically superior in this system
In a long fight maybe. Regular guns can do more damage for cheaper and thats before you take into account fancy ammo.
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>>1081271
Not that great.
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>>1081275
The one with trim would be good if blue was part of the Kestrel's color scheme, I guess. As is it's pretty ugly.
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>>1081273
>In a long fight maybe. Regular guns can do more damage for cheaper and thats before you take into account fancy ammo.
Keep in mind that Beam guns get both higher accuracy and improved range. Making a gun with identical stats will cost more even before ammo.
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>>1081306
They have an extra 100 range which is piddly. Its a pretty clear trade off between doing damage vs accuracy and sustainability.
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>>1081306
It's why you don't use them for accuracy or range but for variety. I have tried doing a template for things like AP for a laser before. x2 on something thats already 1.5 cp gets expensive. Give it multiple other things and the price racks up dramatically.
But if you want to simply do damage, get a 5kill burst gun with blast ammo. Firing at a bunch of people, even if you miss will still have all those blasts going off. Mix it with AP for more fun!
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>>1081275
You're right, black bird on white looks better.

>>1081273
It probably depends on what you exactly you are trying to make. but every beam weapon has an automatic +1 accuracy and slight range advantage (that goes up as the weapon gets bigger) over solid projectiles,and some very good unique options.

Also, i really love fragile right about now, it saves a lot of weight, which means better MV/less cp spent on weight reduction, and the main drawback is that people are likely to target the weapon to knock it out quickly, which is fine for a glass cannon mecha. If they want to waste their roll with a called shot rather than just maximising their chances of hitting and ending the fight in a few hits, that's great.

There are probably a lot of roles where solid projectiles are better though, especially if accuracy and range are not a problem and/or you start playing around with special ammo.
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>>1081323
Or you could use incendiary ammo and make every hit do 15 K of damage.
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>>1081266
I like it, It looks classy,
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So, what are some good Mecha combat games? I really liked Federation vs. Zeon.
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>>1081662
Gundam Breaker 3
Gihren's Greed
Ms Saga
Armor Core
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>>1081669
Gihren's Greed has Mecha Combat?
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>>1081675
No I was just thinking of Mecha games, my bad. Ms Saga is an rpg too so maybe not those two
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>>1081681
Ah, I see.

Looking at the Gameplay for Gundam Breaker 3. Have Rick Doms always been able to backflip?
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>>1081662
I wish the other vs games did a campaign like Federation vs. Zeon.
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>>1081687
They were meant for space so yes I guess
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I said it before and I'll say it again.

Beam guns are for fags.
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>>1081830
This guy gets it, its all about getting close and personal
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>>1081845
i just want explosions
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>>1081958
Did someone said... 「EXPLOSIONS」?
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>>1082043
dammit he found me
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>>1082116
NEW THREAD
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