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Welcome back to the (extremely late) seventy-second installment of Mecha Space Pirate Quest. I'm Wong, your host, and today you are once again Admiral Roarke S. Starwind of the Iron Kestrels, a man with every reason to be smug. You might be Amos later, but for now, you are Roarke.


Previous Threads: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Mecha+Space+Pirate+Quest%2C+Collective+Game%2C+mecha
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Mecha%20Space%20Pirate%20Quest
Master Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/sSHs0QmF
Upgrade Menu: http://pastebin.com/QQQzkFZe
List of Moves: http://pastebin.com/HSdyCe2y
Rogues' Gallery: http://pastebin.com/E9ZcDLfG

Last time, you successfully completed a tremendous dual heist, robbing General Fairchild's home of her niece, beating up her maid, vandalizing her property, and then robbing the Europan Museum of Culture's Auric Treasures of Terra exhibit. In the process, you beat up a dozen of the fearsome Praetorian Guards led by one Lieutenant Jane Mappa, and successfully outmaneuvered General Regina Hatsheput, a former ally and the lover of your Second Mate, Mohammed Al Tabir.
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I do apologize for the late hour. For reasons of a tasteless joke I made about a character I actually quite like on /m/, I was unable to post until just now. If nobody is here, we will run tomorrow. If people are here, we will run now, but it will be a bit light because it's already quite late. In any case, the thread is up, so at least my friends know I haven't died horribly in a giant condor accident.
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>>1028317
I still function so that is something. Figured it would be something, but that does happen.
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>>1028317
Im awake Wong
Bring on the Iron Fists
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>>1028317
You have at least one regular lurker here O mighty Wong.
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>>1028314
Thank Jove, I thought you had died for a second there.
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>>1028317
It was the trap thread wasn't it degenerate
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>>1028317
Its funny you should mentions condors since I recently discovered that buzzards live near me.
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I have the strongest players.

>>1028327

No, I just pointed out that Merribit from IBO has chemistry with one brown boy, another has a crush on her, and she's dating the black mechanic. I inquired whether her name was German or Swedish.
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Reporting in
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At any rate, we struck it big in the last mission. Got a lot of money that can be used to get several of our projects running and even getting some assembly lines working. Honestly, I wonder if we should make the Roc space only, or at least a good number space only. Gives extra space for thrusters and bigger weapons, or we could get the stuff that makes transforming not take an action. Being able to change forms without a weak spot would be great to further improve heist hit and runs.
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>>1028355
It'll save us money to make them space only. We won't be invading planets for a good long while and at that point we just develop a new planet based machine
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>>1028359
Need stuff to fight in colony's though.
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>>1028361
Colonies are small enough where flying shouldn't be a big deal if we're going by gundam logic
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“I do not need to be guarded, thank you. If these cuffs make you more comfortable, then by all means, leave them on, but you must realize they are only a psychological crutch. You feel more comfortable negotiating with prisoners than free people, correct?”

You ignore Lysa Fleur, walking ahead of her and stretching your legs after the journey back. Your body is still sore from the things Rosita wanted to do on the pile of gold coins, and you sincerely hope that none of those things devalued the price tag on those antiques...although if it did, you'd write it off as a minor loss. A great brawler of ancient Thailand on Terra once said that money is everywhere, but beautiful women are rare and precious. You wish you could attribute that fact to an extensive scholastic knowledge of badasses, but in truth...you just watched a lot of simflicks as a child. Rosita certainly isn't defending Lysa, she seems rather hurt that after trusting the younger idol the girl tried to smash your skull with a fire extinguisher, much as you deserved it.

“I have given it some long thought, and I have decided that, perhaps, I should maybe consider forgiving you for your prank. You have, according to your files, had a troubled upbringing and issues with authority.” Lysa continues.

“No I don't.” You remark, “I'm very good with authority, just look at this.” You sweep your arm to indicate your battle fleet, or at least those parts of it docked for maintenance at Auditorium's spaceport, “I started out with one ship. One.”

“So did my aunt. Now she has-” Lysa tries to cut in, but you cut her off. You know what she's going to say.

“None. They aren't hers. Jovian tax dollars and political corruption pay for them.” You counter smoothly.

[Continued]
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>>1028314
heyo wong was wondering if you cancelled or not
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>>1028364
Yeah but space type hydraulics dont work in gravity.
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>>1028361
That is true. Defensive line mechs or ones for gravity environments in general will always need a use and trying to make them only when needed will cause problems. Having our pirate raiders doing our simple patrols being space only is fine, but the cost cutting isn't worth it if we need to spend it on more all terrain mechs for defense.
>>1028364
Still has gravity though. Problem with Space mechs. Stuff like the moon's surface would be fine, but the sort of enviroment for our factories, colonies, and important hubs would have gravity too strong for our machines.
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>>1028368
>>1028369
Our mech, Sam's, and Oda's worked when we attacked Suleiman.
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>>1028376
Thats because they all have regular hydraulics.
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>>1028379
Didn't know that, thought we just all were speced for space
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>>1028376

I basically ignore environmentals, and your mech is assumed to work fine in either space or grav environments unless you specifically have some factor from the ATM giving you points for being space-only or ground-only or something.

I'm personally against making space-only mecha.
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>>1028383
Naw man. Space only gives you a 0.1 discount.
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>>1028387
Never mind then
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>>1028384
Fair enough. I'll respect the F-type a bit to fit that. Should be fine and still be quite maneuverable considering the heavy hydraulics eat some spaces. Won't be as crazy, but should still get 10 MA a action with a good booster pack.
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Lysa stomps her foot, “Didn't your mother ever tell you that if you don't have anything nice to say, you shouldn't say anything at all!”

“No. Who even says that? Without criticism, nobody ever improves.” You riposte, spotting Miles and raising your hand in a casual wave. Of course, you're excited about your haul, but you can't just lose your cool in front of a potential enemy.

“You've certainly made that clear, Mis-ADMIRAL Starwind.” Lysa corrects herself, wilting as Rosita casts a baleful gaze at her over her shoulder. The pirate idol has a bruise on her forehead from where she was accidentally thwomped with the extinguisher, and is not the most forgiving of creatures this early in the morning. She wanted to stay in bed, but you, bursting with enthusiasm at the idea of all the projects you could complete, insisted on waking up before noon.

“I'm very good at that.” Phlegmatically annoying Lysa is a lot more fun than you imagined it would be. Perhaps it's a bad sign that being a bully is so much fun.

“Nobody ever said you weren't talented. Admiral Starwind, as I was saying, I think I should forgive you. Yes, what you did was wrong, it was immature, petty, puerile, childish, small-hearted, cruel, and entirely beneath a person of your many accomplishments, but I firmly believe that I understand you better because of it.” Lysa nods firmly, clasping her cuffed hands together.

>[Ask why]
>[I don't even want to know!]
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>>1028400
>You're not getting out of those cuffs just because your sucking my dick, just ask Rosita.
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>>1028400
>>[Ask why]
It's going down in my 'reasons to laugh at Keith' folder either way.
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>>1028400
>>[Ask why]
Dive down the Rabbit whole

Oh man when this wasn't up at the normal time I went off to do other things for the evening, wasn't expecting to find up when i came back
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>>1028400
>[Ask why]
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>>1028400
>[Ask why]
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>>1028400
>>[Ask why]
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>>1028400
>>[Ask why]
Into the mind of a child
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>>1028346
Oh Snap

Also, almost died after a week of no MSPQ. Cold Turkey on this is not advisable.
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>>1028400
>[Ask why]
Time for bully
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“This should be good for a laugh. Why?” You ask.

She smiles, “You've resolved not to kill us. This frustrates you, because you greatly dislike Keith and I, so you take it out on us through rudeness and pranks. The typical space pirate would have just tried to shoot down Keith and attempted to rape me long ago.”

You shrug, “I don't kill people I don't have to kill. It's just bad business.”

She nods eagerly, “Yes, yes! You see? Even if you approach it from the most amoral perspective we CAN find common ground and have a dialogue. At any rate, you did a great deal of good! Perhaps you were concerned about us in your own small way, surely you were interested in seeing the fallout of your misdeeds, were you not?”

“No, not really.” You remark, watching Miles cut her way through the crowd. You can't actually see the short woman above their heads, but you can see the path she clears with her elbows and foul language, like a shark in shallow water.

“Be that as it may. Despite your many, many, many moral failings, you are a living example of the power of love transforming someone for the better. I have faith that, in some way, you wanted to see whether those around me would support me or not.” She clasps her hands together more tightly, eyes shining.

“I wanted to see whether I could give someone a heart attack from across the galaxy, actually.” You remark dryly. It's completely ineffectual.

“I'm sure your ego made you say that. My aunt was...very, very nasty. She said some things that I am sure will come back to haunt her in a moment of clarity, when her rage cools, and she will know regret. That itself is divine providence, she greatly deserves a sharp shock for certain reasons.” For a moment, you're not sure that's really her behind you, and you have to glance behind you to ascertain that the cold growl you heard came from the silly pink girl.

“And your boyfriend? How did he take it?” You're praying to hear something juicy, but as always, Lysa's immediate presence ruins everything for you.

“He fainted! Then he said that it was alright, he'd fight the entire UJCIDF for my freedom and run away with me! We'd elope and start a family together, EEEEE!” She squeals, spinning in a little circle that makes her long hair whip out behind her like the tail of a comet with enthusiasm, “He's the best, the best! But...I already know that. He suffered rather a lot, recently, to stop my aunt from taking out her anger on me he diverted it onto himself.” The enthusiasm abruptly fades.

>[You have a great chance to interrogate someone in Fairchild's inner circle while they aren't expecting it, what will you ask about?]
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>>1028445
>And you just let it happen? Some girlfriend you are.
She might drop some info if we get her angry
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>>1028445
>Why Keith? What makes him so special that Fairchild is willing to forgive him time and time again, especially since he's your boyfriend?
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>>1028445
"Seems like this isn't the first time she does that. How did the others take it? Last I checked, corpral punishment without criminal charges can end pretty badly." Poke the sore spot and get a look at who is also in the room and hope she spills about any other officials. Finding out who is IN her inner circle is incredibly important, even if it's a preliminary search.
>>1028449
I'd rather she got mad at Fairchild than us. She's a vindictive bitch and we can use that to great degree. A small bit of payback by letting something slip as it were. After all, we saw her do the same thing with Naomi.
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>>1028454
She might not like Fairy, but she's smart enough to not leak info if we're blatant about it. We have to trick her into saying something
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>>1028445
>Never saw Fairchild as one to get her hands dirty with a foul thing like torture. It seems like something that would be beneath her, something she'd pawn off to one of her "pets".
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Interesting, nobody is asking the question I expected you to ask. It's one that isn't a dig at Lysa or Fairchild or some request for details about Keith being beaten up. I'm ignoring questions about the beating because Roarke has no reason to suspect it happened. Be sensible, if you just make fun of her she'll clam up.
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>>1028456
Hence sidelining it with some concern. Have her think about the people in the room and remember that her knowledge of us is limited. She may think we know the whole group there, so if she mentioned Bethany.. we could use that to pry deeper. Remember, one of the transports we found that had green skulls in it had Lysa's name attached to it if I recall.
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>>1028460

To clarify, I'm ignoring questions that presume Roarke knows corporal punishment transpired.
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>>1028460
You mean the First Mate? That is a question I could poke at considering our vendetta and how she was a possible candidate. There is also the Neverland project as well that we can poke at considering how skilled she is as a pilot for being a idol only.
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>>1028451
Seconded, wanna know why the loser keeps getting breaks.

If we had a combat record like him we'd be dead by now.
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>>1028461
She's smart enough to know not to tell us anything we can use against Fairy so acting kind will just put her on alert that we're digging, her getting emotional is the best chance for her to let something slip
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>>1028463
Another person we can poke at for that is Bruce Kelly. Apparently he was the guy who supposedly killed the 'Real' First Mate. Either way, getting some information or seeing if she ran into the person that fit the description that the good doctor told us about would help.
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>>1028468

By the way, what thread was that in? I keep a lot of notes, and I'm hoping I didn't reveal more or less than I thought I did.
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>>1028471
Thread 27 after the Green Skull battle at auditorium. We pondered it a bit, but we were not sure who the first mate was. Either way, we did get info from Oda that there was a transport by Lysa that held green skulls in the fight. Give me a bit to find that one as well.
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>>1028471
Aftermath of the First Battle of the Auditorium. When Sam was looking into the records of First Mate and told Starwind that he was killed in the capture of Kelly.
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>>1028478

Perfect, right in line with my notes.
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>>1028482
There was also the person who sneaked on the Siren Shuttle during our rescue of the Cohens, killed someone and snuck out in a harpy, but that's a bit too much info unless needed. Fact remains, she is the strongest First Mate lead we could get.. and I almost forgot about it.
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>>1028493
And we already know its Bethany, one of Fairchild's lovers. But Roarke hasn't pieced it together yet seeing as he hasn't interacted with Bethany before.
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>>1028499
Indeed, she has the most tells and implications are there, but we need proof and evidence alongside a proper means to deal with her drones. Honestly, a anti drone system might be a good idea to develop. Aside from dealing with Pallies, it could be used in fighting the control on Naomi. Use something to mess with the frequency for her commands. Like a musical override.
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“I don't get it, personally. You and your aunt, what exactly do you see in Keith? He has a miserable combat record.” You remark.

Lysa giggles slightly, “You think so? I suppose you wouldn't know, you're rather an odd case. Didn't you think it strange that there are so few pirate bands remaining? Did you think it was all the Green Skulls? SOUL B has been fighting pirates nonstop even before formally I joined the unit as a replacement pilot. Keith is personally responsible for shooting down four pirate captains by now. I imagine your blonde bride never told you about that, did she? She was so disappointed that she didn't even get to fight in a few of those encounters, I hear. I told you before and I don't think you believed me, but he really does admire you greatly. He may not like you, but he respects your skill and thinks you're more dangerous than any of the Paladins so far. He actually got quite impassioned on the subject. He's convinced the golden Paladin commanding their Solar expeditionary force ran from you on 16-Psyche. As for me...Keith is everything I love about humanity, everything I fight for. He's warm, passionate, devoted, honorable, fiercely loves justice, a brilliant pilot, merciful, kind, understanding...and fantastic in bed.” She hugs herself tightly.

“Speaking of SOUL B, didn't they have another pilot? I heard references to someone wearing a mask, someone even General Fairchild treated with respect. SOUL B initially had Clemmy, Keith, and this person. Who are they?” You look at her closely.

She blinks at you, “The third pilot? Why do you want to know about that person?”

“Because they killed my Captain. Because they might have killed my brother, too.” You work hard not to let your feelings show in your voice.

“Mmmh. Of course Lieutenant Farragut wouldn't know. My aunt was hoping to avoid trouble between them, for some reason.” She shrugs, “I'm just a little songstress, what do I know?”

“A little songstress can know quite a lot, dear. Now answer my darling's question.” Rosita pounces on the evasion before you can. She's fast. “A young woman with a bright future, a fan of mine, is dead because of her and I want to know who killed her.”

“You're awfully talented for a S-Pop idol. Caesar Merrow isn't a slouch, and you were holding him off for a while according to his account. Where did you learn to fly like that?” You remark.

Her lips form a tightly compressed line, “Heinrich Merrow is a blasphemous waste of talent. He's been spoiled, deliberately, by a soft life. I suspect because his father was trying to live vicariously through him, or else to avoid creating someone else like him. Rudolph Merrow is unquestionably a hero of Sol, but you shouldn't believe everything you see in the simflicks, he is a ruthless and bitter man with a dark shadow hanging over him. If he had just captured Naomi Heim, perhaps we could have saved her.”

[Continued]
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“And perhaps by 'saved', you mean your aunt would have brainwashed her. Who needs a personality, when they can shoot where the General points?” Your anger seeps into your voice a little.

“You certainly dodge well.” Rosita remarks, “Lysa, answer my darling's question. I will not ask you politely again.”

Lysa sighs, “I didn't want to talk about it. People already accuse us of being too similar, but the truth is I look up to you. A lot of women do. I have a lot of natural talent and I've worked really, really hard to be good at everything I have potential for. That's all.”

“And the masked pilot?” You ask sharply, yet again.

“If I told you, would you exact vengeance even at the cost of your own soul?” Lysa responds, a bit sharply.

“Yes.” You bluntly reply.

“That is precisely why I won't tell you. It would be the end of my life to reveal that information regardless of what you already know. You have no reason not to act on it, after all!” Lysa huffs indignantly. “They're an ace pilot specializing in black ops. Don't you have someone from UJCIDF Intelligence? That's the person to ask.”

“She doesn't know either.” You inform her, “Your aunt likes to play things close to the chest, except where cute girls are concerned.”

“My aunt's tragic love life is the reason for the person she is today. There is much to criticize her for, but it's wrong to look down on someone for wanting to love and be loved in return. You, Roarke Starwind, should know that better than anyone else.” The young idol shakes her head, “That said, she's made some very poor choices. An opportunistic ace with an interest in powerful people snared her heart, and corrupts her more by the day. Despite Keith's accomplishments, defeating pirates doesn't play well enough on the propaganda vids when we have an actual war bubbling up, and this woman goads my aunt to greater and greater extremes. Worse than any golddigger is someone who hunts for power at the cost of all else. Power should never be an end in and of itself, that's the most cancerous mindset a person can have. Power must be sought only for a cause, or it's worthless...and you know that, don't you? You didn't just acquire a fleet for no reason. All along, there was something you wanted to hunt, then something you wanted to protect.”

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“Is this ace the masked pilot?” You ask, focusing on what interests you. You know what you're fighting for. You don't need to be told.

Lysa shrugs, “By the time I was assigned to replace Lieutenant Farragut, she wore no physical mask...but perhaps her position was a mask in and of itself? Who would suspect the General's aide and secretary of being as dangerous as she is? As vicious? As cunning?” Her hands tighten into fists, “To tell the truth, I am getting angry just thinking about her. Perhaps there are some weeds in the garden of mankind that deserve to meet your fists, and perhaps I am biased. Perhaps I want to see you tear her apart, and the fact that I can feel so much anger frightens me."

>[Ask about Project Neverland, revealing that you know about Project Neverland's existence]
>[Hold your tongue]
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>>1028526
>>[Hold your tongue]
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>>1028526
>[Hold your tongue]
Info about Project Neverland is a powerful political Trump Card. Letting Lysa know robs us of that trump card.
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>>1028526
>>[Hold your tongue]

Thank her for telling us this at least.
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>>1028526
>[Hold your tongue]
Much as I want to, this is something we need to dig into a bit more before revealing our hand. We still have the logs, and they likely have more info than that. Besides, bet that phrase has other uses that I do not want to risk.
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>>1028526
>[Hold your tongue]
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>>1028526
>[Hold your tongue]

I can't help but feel we're being slightly mislead here. Not completely, but enough that I wouldn't take what she says without a few hefty grains of salt and some fact checking.
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>>1028545
Well. while Lysa or Bridgette are both the most likely, there is also the option of them Both being the first mate. At least, when it comes to certain scenarios. That transport is an example(which is also Chapter 27. How did I miss that?). Either way, some things add up and some don't. We need that connecter to fit everything into place.
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“Anger is a part of being human. Rule it, don't let it rule you, that's what my teacher says.” You cross your arms.

Lysa smiles, “You were right, Rosita. He can be reasonable.”

“Don't rope me into this.” Red Siren hrmphs.

“No, it's alright. Thank you, Lysa. Welcome to Auditorium. You're staying under guard, but that's for your own protection as well as ours. I'm glad things turned out well with Keith. Maybe the two of you really should run away together. It's not safe being around General Fairchild.” You adjust your shades. Miles is approaching. She's skipping. Skipping. Her smile is radiant as starlight. This is profoundly disturbing. Red Siren's First Mate is hurrying along behind her, less exuberantly.

“Katheriiiiiiine!” Rosita waves, “I have work for you!”

In Katherine's eyes you see the signs of a woman who knew this from the moment she saw her boss. Poor girl.

“Thank you for your concern, Admiral Starwind, but we can't. Maybe when the war is over, if we all survive. I pray every day for happiness for the human race. Not just for us, but for Avalon as well.” She lowers her voice, “Don't tell my aunt that. It's not their fault that they're fighting us. We all know what the Green Men can do.”

“Ka-the-riiiiiiine!” Rosita merrily shoves Lysa over to Katherine, “Show her to her quarters, find some NICE girls to guard and look after her, pick up a swimsuit and show her the beach, I'm sure going swimming will improve her mood.”

“Yes ma'am.” Katherine sighs, “This way. Please follow closely behind me.”

[Continued]
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>>1028560
I should not like Lysa.
I should not like Lysa.
I should not like Lysa.
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>>1028560
You know, even if she wins the Space Jam, I don't think she will ever truly know peace.
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>>1028563

Katherine is a girl who's earned some happiness more than most.
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“DUDE! Buddy! Have I ever told you that you're like a big bro to me?” Miles with shining, dewy eyes and a big smile is something you could have happily gone without. This is just disturbing.

“I'm guessing you saw the cargo manifest on the Megamule.” You adjust your shades again.

“Aw, Dude, I'm just happy you're home safe...with all of that treasure...don't be like that.” Miles clasps her hands together like one of those girls from Oda's animes. You're going to have nightmares.

You pat her head. That should piss her off.

“I just need a liiitttle bit of a pay advance. Parts for my new baby aren't cheap, and even Karen and Cornelius can't work without 'em...” Her radiant smile doesn't change. You can smell the greed wafting off her, thick and cloying, “Oh, and so does Richard.”

“Dude, my friend, my thane, welcome home.” You hear Richard's growl in your ear before his burly arm clamps around your neck in a headlock. It's easy for you to get free, you're a lot better at hand-to-hand than he is, but there are two of them and before you can stop them you're being hugged from both sides.

“Uncomfortable! Uncomfortable! Off! Off! You're creasing my jacket!” You complain, shoving at your buddies.

“Nay!” Richard proclaims, “We must congratulate our Admiral on his victories.” His craggy face glows with the intensity of his smile.

“Alright! Fine! I'll pay you early!” You grumble, and the two of them high-five over your shoulder, “Now get off me before my wives get jealous.”

“Oh no, don't mind me.” Rosita crosses her arms smugly, “I'm enjoying this. It's so good to see the Kestrels get along so well.”

“You're one too! I order you to save me!” You protest, trying to shove your First Mate and Bosun away.

Rosita titters coquettishly, pulls out a fan, and flaps it at her face, “Silly darling, I'm going to be your wife. I don't have to take orders.”

“Don't tell Rich that! He'll start thinking he doesn't have to be my designated get-things-down-off-the-top-shelfer if rank stops applying!” Miles complains. That sets your heart at ease a little.

[Continued]
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>>1028581
That mental image left me in stitches and diabetic. Wong pls.
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>>1028581
Moe and Caesar must never know this trick less they try it themselves.
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“Who's that? One of your crew? I don't recognize her, why's she in cuffs?” Miles snaps her fingers abruptly, “Ah-ha, let me guess. You caught her trying to steal Roarke's shades to sell on the holonet and now she's being punished.”

“No, no. That's the girl I'm doing my concert with. Lysa Fleur. She's...a bit odd, but she's a lot better once you get to know her, really!” Rosita insists.

You grunt noncommittally.

“Oh motherfucking fuck, I thought I recognized her, it's that pink bitch.” Miles slaps her own forehead, “The one whose machine Richard got. You know it plays S-Pop whenever it starts up, right? We were up almost all night scouring her off of it.”

Richard nods sadly.

“I mean, I was hoping for some cockpit nookie, but it was just...too weird.” Miles continues talking. You wished she didn't. Cockpit nookie is a sacred thing and not for Miles to taint, “Anyway, tell me everything! All about it!”

So you do. By the time you're done, Miles is scowling.

“...And once you contact the Jovian government to negotiate a buyback, I want you to arrange for the other matter, and set up funding for these projects.” You take her PC, and transfer a file from yours to hers, you had time to plan this out on your way back.

“We're not giving it all back, though.” Rosita winks, “I made sure not everything we took is on that list.”

“Dude, Red, you two are an awful influence on each other. I know you want this sister of yours at your wedding, Red, but...” Miles holds her hands up helplessly, “For fuck's sake, I can't get the two of you through the Gate of Jupiter. No fucking body could get you through the fucking Gate of fucking Jupiter, especially not after this. It worked because it's outside your usual turf and nobody was expecting the fucking Kaiser out of fucking nowhere. That's not happening now. After shit went down on Mars security on the Gate got beefed up to the fucking max and you want to go into a fucking war zone to steal a top Bahamutcorp techie who's probably nestled at the heart of a military base.”

“B-but...” Rosita's lower lip quivers, “But my baby sister...I just want her to be at my wedding!” She wails, distraught. A long and successful career of piracy has not entirely changed the demanding teenage idol underneath, “I'd be at hers! She has to be there! She has to!”

Miles and Richard wince, Miles holding her hands out, “Look, I'm the fucking best, I know, but I'm only human. I can maybe get someone through if they don't have a criminal record, but the two of you are going to get flagged the second you try to board a shuttle through the Gate.”

>[What do?]
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>>1028595
>We get the Martians to do it. We become diplomats for the Martians to go to Cat planet. The Martians do have diplo-immunity right? Heck, get Hakim to let us invite Red's sister over in person.
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>>1028595

I know, we can send Caesar.

He's still technically on SOUL payroll and has no criminal record.

Whats more he has met Amos.
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>>1028595
Then here is the tricky part. We COULD send someone like Caesar or Moe, but it is a risky mission with no reward for him and can screw things over. Setting up a video call to her may be feasible, but as is we don't really have anyone who's good enough to go through freely. Any of our wives would be obvious and our SOUL pilots won't do either since they are 'under cover'. We also don't know where she is exactly so we can't just go to Cat land.
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>>1028595
We must have some trusted Kestrels who don't have a criminal record, or aren't listed as Deserters or MIA from the Jovian Armed forces right?
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>>1028602

Technically the people mentioning Moe and Caesar are correct. Mohammed flat-out doesn't have a criminal record. He was on Mars, yes, but the Martians aren't exactly in a rush to slap criminal offenses on one of Fatima's bodyguards going along to help rescue Fatima, and all he did there was play rearguard and kill bandits. SOUL A aside from Samantha is still officially "on special assignment" because of Fairchild covering her ass.
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How about sending Moe and Caesar together?

If push comes to shove, Caesar's credentials as SOUL should help him push through any obstructive security and Moe is absolutely trustworthy.

Also this lets moe take a quick sidetrip either on the way out or back to see his beau.
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>>1028602
>>1028598
The problem is that whoever we send is going there on a suicide mission where we don't know where they are.
>>1028605
Hmmm.. Might be an idea to Send Pierre, Moe, and Caesar as a group. At least with Pierre there is a reason if he's sending out wedding invitations to his sister's wedding, and he serves as a solid supporter for the other two.
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>>1028605
So Consensus is to let Moe and Caesar handle the invitation? IMHO, I still think we get the Martians to get us through. We do need a relationship beyond one dead Sheikh with Mars in order to get an independent Belt Nation.
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>>1028611

We should be able to work together something. Use Fatima's backing to put together a small authorised shipment of material to the base and have the two of them on board the vessel as well?
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>>1028611

It's not a bad thought, but your ties with Mars aren't necessarily that strong yet. You're still in the "earning their trust" phase, it's not like you're marrying Hakim himself.
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With that, I think we have a plan. See you tomorrow, guys,
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>>1028620
Aye, take it easy Wong.
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Glad we got to quest tonight despite the late start.
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>>1028624
Night Wong
See you tomorrow
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>>1028595
Could always try to get her to come to us. What does she do for a living?
Then proceed to bribe her using caesar
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>>1028595
A couple of options: first, what are the rules for searching diplomatic packages? There probably are some diplomats on Jove that aren't particularly enamored of the SSL right now and would probably be amiable to bribes. Could get some equipment by that way. Alternatively, I suppose one of the independent systems with an office could hire one of our ships as a consular vessel if they wanted some experienced mercenaries.
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In the age of the space internet, couldn't we just send a message/invite? On the flipside, clemmy wants Fairchild there, so when she needs an honorguard we request Amos (after doing some info gathering and figuring out amos x Irina) and say they can bring plus ones. Not sure if we need to jump straight to kidnapping, as thematic as it would be.
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>>1028682
She makes giant robots and gets children into said robots. Also she grows weed.
Either way, there are uses for sending Pierre, Moe, and Caesar. It spreads our information network a bit further and gives us some more current data on that field which we desperately need. We can go with the invite, but I think if we are getting Moe and Caesar involved, they really should not kidnap them. Get as far as they can and be ready to return if things look rough. The invite is important, but their lives and safety are more so since they are our rising stars.
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why dont we just use the earth gate?
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>>1028792
>She makes giant robots and gets children into said robots. Also she grows weed.
We don't know that IC though. We can just bribe her with scans of the Anesis or something.
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>>1028811
because of the three known gates the earth one is the most dangerous and has those super machines guarding it. Too risky.
>>1028817
Well, giving her the best chance to see the Kestrel Machines alongside the Anesis could tempt her on a professional scale. Likewise, data from our latest fight with the two bits may motivate Fairchild to get someone there for data collection.
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>>1028792
it's not illegal in space?
you just need a permit i think.
in space. i mean
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>>1028562
Shes manipulating us anon. She has a talent for it I mean just look at Jesus. She's trying to get us to lower our guard about her so she can use that to her advantage. Just watch we'll get into a fight against her in her new mech at some point and we'll hesitate to land the killing blow and then she'll use that to attack us
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>>1028889
> land the killing blow
Look thunder, we don't purposefully cockpit snipe anyway, and any other knockout way we aren't going to hesitate for her at all.
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If Thunderbird is the Thread's Id, who is the Ego and Superego?
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>>1029079
>who is the Ego and Superego
Every other anon
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>>1029079
Hey I have plenty of morals empathy, just not for people who are out enemies
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>>1029129
It's more that you are consistently paranoid, with an also terribly consistent "kill everything" line of decision making
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>>1029129
>>1029150
Also that you roll consistently good when it comes to seduction. Like, god fucking damn, you are favored by the dice gods. If that don't make you the Id, then I don't know what does.
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>>1029150
You're just trying to make me drop my guard so we can get betrayed, I'm on to you anon.
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>>1029156
Look, it is a well known fact that the RNG likes to fuck people over whenever it can. So, it only makes sense that when someone rolls to quite literally fuck someone over to side that the roll may go well!
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Nobody really answered my question last thread so I'll ask again

Would it be possible to put the quick change mount on parts of a mated weapon so that the parts could be swapped mid battle?
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>>1029933
probably not, but mainly due to the nature of mounts and mated weapons. For the most part, quick mounts are attached to the mech directly. The obvious application for this is one time weapons that become dead weight when their ammo is used up. Limbs and shields also work for this as well. But a mated weapon is tricky both space and cost wise so thats something that would require house ruling.
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Quite honestly, all I can think about is Roarke being in SRW or him being a TV show in other mecha universes.
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>>1028770

Ah, I'm glad for the chance to explain this (or re-explain it) in more detail. Instantaneous communication can occur anywhere you have ansible systems. Ansibles are huge, and staggeringly expensive, but over time the Solar System in particular has been seeded with ansible satellites floating all over the place so that in most civilized locations and even in much of the belt (so long as you're on or near a colony, generally) you can access the holonet and make calls to wherever. Seeding those satellites, however, was predominantly a Terran-funded effort, with cooperation from the various SSL planets, meaning that this doesn't apply outside the Solar System. The CUSS had ansibles on most major worlds, but many were destroyed during the War, just as many of the planetary Gates were. SSL forces have a mobile ansible ship called an Arapaima, that commonly accompanies system forces. It's a larger ship than a Wels, but much more lightly armed because much of its space is taken up by the ansible itself and it's more of a science, habitat, and exploration ship than a dedicated warship. Individual Arapaimas vary in specialty, some are dedicated settler ships while others are gigantic mobile mech labs, but because they cost even more than a Wels they're also more rare than a Wels, and it's typical for a system fleet to only have one. An Arapaima is currently stationed at Qu'lir, which is how Fairchild was able to televise her putting a bunch of medals on SOUL C (although with the reformation of the SOUL Squads into a SOUL Force alphabetical designations no longer really matter), but that's a recent development, normally Qu'lir would be too much of a backwater to merit that and the Arapaima would be assigned to a patrolling system fleet rather than on semi-permanent planetary assignment.

To answer your question directly, because even Rosita hasn't seen her sister in years and doesn't know how to contact her. Finding out where she's stationed is doable between her contacts and Miles' ferreting around, getting her number is something else entirely. Also, there are always risks with using ansible communication, there's the slight possibility of it being intercepted. Truly important and secret information is often conveyed through other channels, and face-to-face communication is still as relevant as ever.
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>>1030310
Has Caesar been keeping in touch with Amos and his buddies?
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>>1030310
>To answer your question directly, because even Rosita hasn't seen her sister in years and doesn't know how to contact her. Finding out where she's stationed is doable between her contacts and Miles' ferreting around, getting her number is something else entirely. Also, there are always risks with using ansible communication, there's the slight possibility of it being intercepted. Truly important and secret information is often conveyed through other channels, and face-to-face communication is still as relevant as ever.
To be fair, the fact that she's with Caesar's friend has apparently been used as propaganda, so contacting her through Caesar and Amos should be doable.
As a sidenote: how expensive are Macrogates? This whole business about how difficult it is to leave the soul system seems like it is going to get real annoying in the future unless we can pull something like >>1028694
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>>1030342
Well, from what we can gather, the issues are 3 fold. First, the size of a gate would take a lot of money and time. We could likely start up entire fleets or colonies with the same money and heavily fortify our fleet in the time it would take for the gate. Second, it's really damn obvious and is a major threat for the Navy and Avalon. Us getting a Gate turns us from a local issue into a universal one. Fairchild would do anything to stop us and so would the Duke. The third is natural fragility of the system. The Mars gate took some damage and while not destroyed it certainly weakened it for months. Considering our location, both sides will make sure that we cannot complete it.
Maybe it could be a Gen 2 thing once the Belt earns it's sovereignty, but right now the costs and risks are simply not worth the benefits.
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By the way, a small apology. There is a long Amos segment coming up. I'm apologizing because I know Roarke segments are more popular (and rightly so), however...this arc is going to wrap up the War on Qu'lir if it goes the way I expect it to go.

Once this arc is done, what follows immediately after is the long-awaited SPACE JAM, and from then on it's Roarkeopolis.

With that said, THIS THREAD IS THE FINAL CALL FOR SPACE JAM ENTRIES! ONCE THIS THREAD IS CONCLUDED, WE'LL HAVE UNTIL THE END OF THE ARC TO THOROUGHLY CHECK OVER ALL THE TOURNEY MECHA TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE LEGIT AND FOR WONG TO START MAKING BRACKETS.

COME ON AND SLAM!
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>>1030327

No, because of the Arapaima only arriving recently. A Paladin being shot down by the UJCIDF merited its appearance.


>>1030367

To clarify, if people who don't like Amos segments want to sit out, that's my heads-up for them, and also a note to people working on entries that this week is the last time to turn 'em in before we start checkin' and perfectin'.
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>>1030367
SPACE JAM!!!!!!!!!!
HYPE IT UP
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>>1030376
Are there space Protestants Wong?
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>>1030367
Ok, I was working on a mech and pilot, I think its tourney legal now.

M-Sagiser : Mecha beast (Secretary bird/Cassowary)
Super Heavy Torso: C/S/K 20, 10 tons
Medium Weight Head: C/S/K 6, 3 tons
Armored Weight L. Leg: C/S/K 10, 4.5 tons
Left Talon: CP 2, 1 Space, 5K, 1.5 ton (-2 MA)
Armored Weight R. Leg: C/S/K 10, 4.5 tons
Right Talon: CP 2, 1 Space, 5K, 1.5 ton (-2 MA)
No arms
Armor:
Super Heavy Torso Armor (10 CP, 10 SP 2, 5 tons)
Medium Weight Head Armor (6 CP, 6 SP, 3 tons)
Medium Weight Leg Armor (Right) (6 CP, 6 SP, 3 tons)
Medium Weight Leg Armor (Left) (6 CP, 6 SP, 3 tons)
No arms
Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 cp, 2 spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Options: Head Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Anti-Theft code lock+ (.4 cp), Liftwire (0.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP), Stereo (.1 cp)
Armament:
Leg-Mounted Beam Sweeper: Range 200m, WA -1, 2K, 15 CP, 6 Spaces, 1 ton*
Leg-Mounted Beam Sweeper: Range 200m, WA -1, 2K, 15 CP, 6 Spaces, 1 ton*
* Fires a continuous beam as long as you hold down the trigger, no maximum hit limit.
Torso Mounted Missile Pod: Range 650m, WA +1, 6K, Ammo 5, 5 CP, 5 Spaces, 1 ton
122 cp 44 weight

Thrusters & Speed:
17(?) thrusters, 10 MA, 500m per turn, 11 thrusters in torso, 3 per leg, 16.5 CP
Total Weight: 44 tons
Total CP: 138.5
M-Sagiser appearance:
Large flightless bird, heavy duty legs with proportionally large talons
Pilot Character concept:
Name: Marciana Sparna, 35, female
Daughter to a minor political family from Jupiter, Marciana was married off to a middling Martian noble at age 18. The marriage was rocky at first but eventually they settled into one another’s company via bonding over a shared interest in mecha. Later her husband was killed via a political rival’s machinations leaving Marciana a widow. Unable to successfully levy charges, she decided to do something she and her husband had wistfully joked about doing; leaving everything behind and becoming a mech pilot. Using her remaining funds she developed the M-Sagiser, a mech born from ideas she and her husband used to toss around for fun. Marciana is a stern woman seeking a challenge and wants the prize money to further refine her mech. She has a soft spot for kids never having had any with her husband.

pic is a general reference for pilot appearance.
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>>1030391

Some, but...Protestantism kind of lost its spark during the secularization at the end of the AD period. It became too fractured, too weak, and too live-and-let-live. Many of its adherents decided they were spiritual rather than religious and eventually abandoned their faith altogether. Most Christians were reunited...Protestant, Catholic, and Orthodox...under the Reformed Catholic Church based on Luna. However, this isn't an absolute, the isolated nature of colony life means that all kinds of weird religious traditions have popped up, you could probably find isolated colonies or worlds in the midst of a religious war between Shinto and Mormonism if you looked hard enough, so it's not as if Protestants are completely gone.

Non-Hakimite Muslims have a much rawer deal.
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>>1030409
Good, now they can't ruin space Catholicism too
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>>1030400
Man.. the very image of that giant battle bird makes me want to grapple and ride that fucker like a chocobo.
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>>1030367
I'm glad I got mine in
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>>1030445
...I might have to figure out a way to make that work as a group combat tactic...
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>>1030367
What are your rules on multiple loadouts. Some players have created multiple weapon setups, and I wondered how free people are to respec between rounds.
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You are now Lieutenant Amos A. Wedge, of the UJCIDF.

“Ahh...ahhh...CHOO!” The dark-haired Major sneezes loudly.

“Bless you.” You remark. You're not sure you like her. You know that you're happy that General Fairchild is taking bed rest after what you suspect was some kind of psychotic breakdown. You didn't have to clean up the splintered furniture she left everywhere in her wake, but you've heard enough grumbling from the enlisted men to be sympathetic of them. That's military property, she should really treat it better than she does. With her out of the way, you've been saddled with answering to Major Cabot until the General recovers, and it's almost worse. It's not that she's overtly unpleasant, but something about her is just a little too predatory. She's almost dismissive of your squad, and seems thoroughly unimpressed by Qu'lir itself.

“Don't be superstitious, my heart won't stop from one little sneeze, farmboy.” She crosses her arms and jerks her head towards the communication room, “Get in. You've got a personal call from Jupiter and the sooner you're done the sooner I can buy some clothes that actually work in this ghastly climate.”

There's no helping it. In you go. You sit down, and tap the holoscreen with your forefinger, indicating acceptance of the call waiting. You feel a lump in your throat, because you know exactly who it is calling you, and it's the one person you've wanted to talk to the most after your adventures.

His face pops into view on the screen, and for a moment, neither of you say anything. He still looks just the same as he did when you left. For a moment, you don't trust your voice, and neither does he, apparently, because you manage to speak first, “Hi dad.”

[Continued]
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>>1030523
Oh boy, Papa Wedge time. Wonder who that is.
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>>1030540
I bet Ramba Ral.
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>>1030540
Grandpa is Musashi so I'm guessing Musashi 2.0 Benki
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“Amos, my boy...” Randall Wedge's eyes well up with tears.

“Dad...” He's not alone, your vision is a little misty too, but he's still just like you remembered him. He's put on a few pounds since his retirement, but his gaze is just as piercing and his mustache curls just as extravagantly as you remember.

“I saw what you did, son. Everyone did. I couldn't be more proud. Not just because of what you've done for Jupiter, but because you've turned into the man I always knew you could be. Your mom and I...no, the whole family...we're all rooting for you. I'm glad they let an old man make one little call to tell you that before the Arapaima moved on, things have changed for the better since my day.” He smiles, “I see you painted your mech blue. It's a bit unoriginal, don't you think?”

You laugh, “I just thought it would be a good way to thank the man who taught me how to fly.”

“Dear? Did you manage to get through. Oh! Oh Amos!” Your mother runs into the room behind him, leaning on the back of his chair. “Have you been eating? You haven't caught any nasty diseases, have you?”

“Yes mom. No mom.” You rub the back of your head, embarrassed.

“Have you met a nice girl yet? Your father and I want grandchildren before we're too senile to appreciate them.” She jokes.

Your face turns red, “Yes mom.”

“What's she like, dear?” Your mom leans forward, intrigued, “Is she one of those Qu'liri women? I'm not going to

“Hannah, darling, you're embarrassing the boy. I'm sure we'll meet her sooner or later.” Your dad tries to rescue you, but nothing escapes the black hole of motherly concern.

“Well? Is she there? Do you have a picture of her? Let me see!” Hannah Wedge is undeterred.

You thumb through your PC for the least risque picture of Irina you can find, and show it to her, “This is Irina, mom. She's the one who built my mech.”

[Continued]
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>>1030543
>>1030588
Somebody better pick up that phone.
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>>1030588
Is Wedge's Grandpa still alive?
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「ADF-01 Lightning」

Medium Striker Torso: C/S/K 8, 4 tons
Medium Striker Head: C/S/K 4, 2 tons
HeavyStriker L. Arm: C/S/K 6, 3 tons
Left Hand: 2 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Heavy Striker R. Arm: C/S/K 6, 3 tons
Right Hand: 2 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Medium Striker L. Leg: C/S/K 5, 2.5 tons
Medium Striker R. Leg: C/S/K 5, 2.5 tons

Base Frame Weight: 18 tons
Base Frame Cost: 38 CP

Armor: Medium Striker (4 SP, 4 CP, 2.0 tons) on all locations (Total: 24 CP, 12 tons)

Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 CP, 2 Spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton

Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Liftwire (0.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP), Katz Deluxe Anti-Theft Codelock (0.2 CP)
Armaments:
'Kusanagi' (Handheld Two-Handed Nodachi): WA +1, 11K, Quick, AP, 33 CP, 12 Spaces, 5.5 tons (SE: +10.5 CP)
(Optional) Beam Magnum Rifle: WA +3, 11K, Range 650m, Clip-Fed (5 shots per clip), 23.8 CP, 6 Spaces, 3 tons (SE: +9 CP)(3 clips, +3 CP)(WE: +5 CP)
(Optional) 'Ashura' (Handheld Katana): WA +1. 5K, 4 CP, 4 Spaces, 2.5 tons

Thrusters & Speed ('Kusanagi'): 5 per leg, 4 per arm, 3 in the torso. Moves 800m per turn in flight or can run 250m, 22.5 CP

Total Weight: 37.5 tons
Total Cost: 136.7 CP ('Kusanagi') / 138 CP ('Beam Magnum Rifle'+'Ashura')

Pilot: James McClintock
Bio: Underground tourney mech pilot. Boozehound. Hates Martians in general. Wants to prove he's a better pilot than the Black Ogre.
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“You mean you're dating your mechanic?” Your dad sighs, grinning as he kicks back and crosses his arms across his chest, “Just don't break her heart, son, that won't end well at all.”

“She built it? I thought you flew Pumpkinseeds, dear?” Your mom clasps her hands over her mouth, “Oh my gosh, you mean...they finally built you a custom?”

“Ayup.” You nod.

She frowns, “Amos Adventure Wedge, just because I can't smack you with a spoon from here is NO excuse to start saying 'ayup'.”

“Yes ma'am.” You correct yourself, shamefaced.

“That's my boy.” She smiles.

“Well, actually, she built my Pumpkinseed II, as well. She's, uh, a ranking Bahamutcorp technician.” You say awkwardly.

“That's wonderful! Darling, I just know you're going to be so happy together! Give her a big hug for me, and tell her she doesn't have to feel awkward about calling me Mom.” Your mother clasps her hands together, her eyes shining, “Oh, and how are those dear boys you were such good friends with? Has little Simon gotten any taller?”

“They're alright, mom.” You can't tell her about Simon's mech, the mandrake was transferred to Innsmouth for completion away from a major population center like Celephais, or how Garret's is coming along, “And I don't think Simon could get any shorter than he was back then, so he's probably taller.”

[Continued]
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RSM-01G Valkyrie Kathrine Custom/Guard Spec
Medium Striker Torso: C/S/K 8, 4 tons
Medium Striker Head: C/S/K 4, 2 tons
Medium Striker L. Arm: C/S/K 5, 2 tons
Medium Striker R. Arm: C/S/K 5, 2 tons
Medium Striker L. Leg: C/S/K 5, 2 tons
Medium Striker R. Leg: C/S/K 5, 2 tons
Armor: Heavy Striker (5 SP, 5 CP, 2.5 tons) on arms
Medium Striker armor (4 SP, 4CP, 2 tons) on legs and head
Medium weight armor on torso (6 SP, 6 CP, 3.0 tons)

Servo Weight: 15, servo cost 36 CP
Armor Weight 14, armor cost 28 CP
Total 28 Tons, 60 CP, 32 spaces

Main Sensors Striker (Head): CP:2 Space:1 Kills:1 Tons:0.5 4km Sensor Range 800km communications
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 CP, 2 Spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Liftwire (0.3 CP), Advanced Head Mounted Logic Processor (1 Space, 5CP)
Total: 1.5 tons, 5 spaces, 11.3 CP

Weapons: 39.4 CP, 8.83 tons
Duel arm mounted "Hand" WA +0, 1k (+1), Handy, .75 CP, 1 space, .5 tons
Handheld beam Naginata "Tempest" WA +1, 7K (+1 melee bonus) (only 2K of structure), EMW (treats SP as 4 less than usual), Quick CP 18.5, 5 Spaces, 1 ton
Torso Mounted "Wings of Salvation" active shield system: DA -2, SP 9, 15.5 CP, 3 Spaces, 4.5 tons
Right arm mounted Smoke missile System: WA -2, 2k, blast 1, Smoke, 250 Meter range, 5 missiles, .9 CP, 1 Space, .66 Tons

Left arm mounted missile system WA +0, 10k, 550 Meter range, 3 missiles, 3 CP, 3 Spaces, 2 tons

Thrusters & Speed: 5 per leg, 3 in right arm 1 in left arm and two in the head. Moves 550 meters per turn in flight, or can run 250m. 16 CP
Shadow Generator: two images, occupying one space in the torso. .1 Cost multiplier. +.5cp

Total: 127.2 CP Base, 139.92 CP
38.33 tons
MV: -3

Background: The first Valkyrie started as the debris of a standard UJCIDF Pumpkinseed wrecked by Red siren during the raid on Gretchen's craft. It stayed stored on the Auditorium until the encounters with the Green skulls and Clemmy reluctantly convinced Red Siren to consider a more powerful mecha to augment her darling Harpies, as long as it was cute enough. Using spare parts from the Archen and a custom beam naginata, the Pumpkinseed was rebuilt into the Valkyrie close assault mecha. Designed to fly with the Archen to intercept melee threats short of the idol, the Valkyrie is a specialized close combat mecha built uncompromisingly for extremely high threat environments where the lifespan of an average grunt mecha is measured in seconds.

Pilot: Kathrine Archibald is a childhood friend of Rosita who joined the military while she went into show business. When Rosita's stardom crashed, Kathrine resigned her commission in the military and followed her oldest friend into a life of piracy. Ever since, she's been Rosita's long suffering second in command, doing the detail work that Rosita is either unable or uninterested in dealing with. In the upcoming tournament, she hopes to showcase her crew's capability, and perhaps step out of her friend's shadow a bit.
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>>1030367
BTW, here's the version of the Myrmidon that will be running in the Tourney: http://pastebin.com/VLZ0VLuB

Figured I should give you the absolute latest copy.

Do you mind if I also submit a mech/pilot I think would make for a great POV character?
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>>1030706

Tourney characters are almost 0% likely to be POVs.
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>>1030688
>Servo Weight: 15, servo cost 36 CP
>Armor Weight 14, armor cost 28 CP
>Total 28 Tons, 60 CP, 32 spaces

Uhh, did you check your math?
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By the way, there's a huge storm outside, so if I vanish abruptly you guys know why.
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>>1030718
Fair Enough.

I guess she's just Tourney fodder then: http://pastebin.com/v6PFWihf
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>>1030723
Whoops. Should be.
Servo Weight: 14, servo cost 32 CP
Armor Weight 14, armor cost 28 CP
Total 28 Tons, 60 CP, 32 spaces
Whoops. Doesn't change any of the math down the line though.
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>>1030738
Wong gets sucked up a tornado and went to the Land of Oz?
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“Hannah, darling, could I talk to Amos alone for a minute? He's a hero now, there are some things we have to discuss man-to-man.” Your dad interjects, which is lucky, because otherwise your mom would happily grill you about Irina all day.

She pouts, “Randall, I haven't gotten to see my baby in so long! Look at him, all grown up. Ohhh, you look so handsome in that uniform, just like your father used to!” She pinches your dad's cheeks, and he grumbles, “I'll let you two talk, but this isn't the end of this.” She vows.

Your father waits for her to leave, before leaning forward, his elbows propped up on his desk and his chin resting on his hands, “How do you like it, son? The feel of the wind on your face and a mech beneath you?” He sounds faintly wistful.

“It feels good, dad. It really does. Um, how are things back home?” You ask.

He sighs, “Your grandpa is getting older, but he still manages to run the farm practically by himself and gives an earful to anyone who tries to suggest that maybe he should hire a few more hands. Roarke Starwind just robbed the Europan Museum of Culture, so that's all the news channels talk about. I'd call him a showoff, but I don't think he does it for the glory...” His voice becomes abruptly more serious, “And neither should you. You've done more than enough to be a hero, Amos. I'd do what your mother wants, and tell you to start taking fewer risks, which is what I'm going to tell her I said over dinner tonight...but I was a soldier too, and I know that I can't ask that. War is war, duty is duty, and the kind of war that can be fought without risks isn't a war at all. I will tell you to be careful, though. I want my son back when this is all over, not a cold, shiny medal and a pinewood box.”

“I will, dad. I promise.” You mean it. You didn't take the chances you did for the sake of glory, you did it because it was the right thing to do.

“I know. You've become a fine man, Amos.” He sighs, “Luther's been in contact with me. He acted like it was a social call, but I think maybe he wants me to re-enlist. He's thinking of appointing a Field Marshall for the first time since the Great War. I already know it won't be me, but that just shows how serious he is about winning this thing before certain expansionist elements in the Senate try to escalate it any further.”

You'll never get over hearing the Planetary Chairman called by his first name. They didn't meet during the War, ironically, but when you graduated from the Academy in the same class as Garret Luxol. During the post-graduation party they ran into each other, made fun of the headmaster's speech over drinks, and became instant friends. It wasn't until afterwards that your dad realized he'd been criticizing official government policy to one of the most powerful men in the Solar System, and the fact that Luther Luxol was so approachable made a lasting good impression on him.

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>>1030743

She might need a bit of tweaking, but I can handle that. Like you said, she's written like a PoV character when she isn't one.
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>>1030846
Awesome. Thanks Wong.
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>>1030853
>>1030846
I thought we had a limit of one entry per person though?
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I can't wait to see how the tournament turns out
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>>1030862
>>1030853


Does he have another entry? If so, then yes, that limit applies. ONE entry per user. Uno. Ein. Ichi. Only one allowed.
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>>1030886
Aw. Fine then. Guess she's consigned to the scrap heap.
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Gonna hope this goes through. Posting my latest tweak of the Chimera as my entry
http://pastebin.com/R0W2jFgC

Pilot: Robert Dubois
Robert is an ex-UJCIDF who deserted after being passed over for promotion one too many times. He has been working for a small-time Space junker for the past 5 years under an assumed name. He has used this position to get the parts needed to maintain and upgrade the mech he left in. Hoping to finally get the recognition he wànts, Robert plans to enter the Space Jam, and join the Iron Kestrels no matter the outcome.
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“I'd take Belt pirates over the Avalonians.” You joke.

Your father frowns, “Don't be so quick to say that. Starwind showed up alone and bodied a full four squads of the Praetorian Guard without taking serious damage. Worse, there's Avalonians in the Belt, a few of their ships somehow got safe coordinates to enter the Solar System and damaged the Gate of Mars.”

“I heard about that.” You mutter.

“But you probably haven't heard that they've started attacking civilian targets. Disgusting animals, they think if they just frighten us enough we'll give up self-rule and bow to their damned Green Man.” He thumps his fist against his chest, “Not while I'm in this system they won't! I'll kick their perfumed asses back to Avalon myself, if I have to! In a Bluegill!” He strokes his mustache contemplatively, “Hm, maybe if I eat one of those little crackers and let them dump water on my head the Moonies will give me a Cardinal.”

“Please don't, dad. We'd miss having you celebrate with us on Solday.” Technically, that holiday is called Dies Natalis Solis Invicti, but most people just call it Solday.

He snorts, “Balderdash, I'm sure the Moonies have a holiday around the same time. Ramadan, or something. No, wait, that's not it. Hannukah?”

You shrug, you don't know either. The two of you talk for a while longer, going through a whole list of relatives and friends, him asking extensively about how you like your co-workers without asking for any details that would get you in trouble for breaching military nondisclosure rules. Finally, he checks his chronometer and sighs, “That's all the time we have, I'm afraid. Stay safe, son. We all love you and want to see you again soon. Give that Irina girl another hug for me.”

You smile awkwardly, emotion choking you up a little, “I love you too. All of you. Tell grandpa those shooting lessons came in handy.”

He snorts, “He's been bragging nonstop about that shot you did with your emergency missiles, boy. Trust me, he knows.”

The call terminates, and you're left alone. For the first time since you came to Qu'lir, you really know homesickness. You thought you'd felt it a few times before, but talking to your parents you can practically smell your mother's cooking and your dad's aftershave. Not wanting to be alone right now, you make your way to the mechbay, where Keith Young and Garret Luxol are doing maintenance on their machines. Keith has a Warmouth, although it was pink when he got it and it looks oddly plain with the hasty recoat of white. Its arms look massively oversized, and much more ornate in the framework, apparently built for his last mech, cradling a tremendous gun. Garret has...an abomination. An unfinished abomination, but already it's so ugly it's practically cute.

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ALEXANDER GRANT - A mercenary who is trying to pay off a debt he can never seem to get rid of. Has a great interest in Astrology and the Zodiac, and considers his birth-sign (Libra) to be a sign of good luck.

Name: Libra
Pilot: Alexander Grant

Medium Striker Torso: C/S/K 8, 4 tons
Striker Head: C/S/K 3, 1.5 tons
Light Weight Wing R: C/S/K 2, 1 Ton
Light Weight Wing L: C/S/K 2, 1 Ton
Medium Striker L. Arm: C/S/K 5, 2 tons
Left Hand: 2 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Medium Striker R. Arm: C/S/K 5, 2 tons
Right Hand: 2 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Striker L. Leg: C/S/K 4, 1.5 tons
Striker R. Leg: C/S/K 4, 1.5 tons

Armor: Medium Striker (4 SP, 4 CP, 2 tons) on all locations except the Wings, which have Superlight armor (1 SP, 1 CP, .5 ton)
Base Frame weight 28.5 Tons
Base Frame Cost: 63 CP

Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 CP, 2 Spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton

Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Liftwire (0.3 CP), Stereo (0.1 CP), Deluxe Antitheft Code lock (0.4)

Frame + options weight: 30.5 tons
Frame + options cost: 71.8 CP

Armaments:
Handheld ZX-21 C.R.O.W.E Standard Configuration - 44.8 CP, 4 spaces 4.73 tons
Gun 1 (Full Assault Integrated Zodiac) - Range 350m, WA 0 (+1 with Tracers), 6k, Multi-feed 2, BV 3, Tracer Ammo (10 bursts) + Grenade Ammo (Blast 1) (5 bursts), 2 reloads (Tracers) 1 reload (grenades)
Gun 2 (Intercept Offensive Tactical Armament) - Range 150m, WA +2, 1 k, BV 5, Phalanx (anti-missile) Ammo 10 bursts

Arm-Mounted Custom Small Shield: DA 0, SP 6, 9 CP, 3 tons 1 space

Weight after armaments: 38.23 tons
Cost after Armaments: 125.4 CP

Thrusters & Speed: 4 per leg, 4 in the torso. +100 Meters from wings. Moves 500 meters per turn in flight, or can run 250m. 12 CP.

Total Weight: 38.58 tons
Total Cost: 137.6 CP

Full pastebin with additional CROWE loadouts: http://pastebin.com/m0ZmjVek
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>>1030930
... Alexander and Kathrine's kid is going to be VERY pretty.
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>>1030907

I'm oddly tempted to have Dubois be someone you know, but I'm sure you have your own mental image of him.
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>>1030947
I still say that Alexander hooking up with a pilot who could probably settle his debt with her pocket change would be a bit weird.
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>>1030949
Do what you want with him. I was going to leave his appearance blank unless you asked me for a description.
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I was using the High Mobility Version of the Graze for the Wraith MKII
But Wong Said last thread that the Graze was the Palamino
Not sure what to use now. I guess it could just look like a miniature version of the Palamino with Enough Thrusters on it to put a transformed Harpy to shame

Saturn Wraith MKII – Stealth With ASP

Striker Torso C/S/K 6 3 Tons
Lightweight Head C/S/K 2 1 Ton
Striker L.Arm C/S/K 4 1.5 Ton
Left Hand: CP 2, 1 Space 1K, .5tons
Striker R.Arm C/S/K 4 1.5 Ton
Right Hand: CP 2, 1 Space 1K, .5tons
Lightweight L.Leg C/S/K 2 1 Ton
Lightweight R.Leg C/S/K 2 1 Ton
Lightweight R.Wing C/S/K 2 1 Ton
Lightweight L.Wing C/S/K 2 1 Ton

Frame Weight: 11 Tons CP: 28
Armor: Lightweight (2CP, 2SP 1Tons) All locations Weight:8 Tons CP:16
Main Sensors Striker (Head): CP:2 Space:1 Kills:1 Tons:0.5 4km Sensor Range 800km communications
Advanced Sensor Package (Torso): CP:10 Spaces 2
Backup Sensors (Torso): CP:2 spaces:2 Kills:2 Tons:1
Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces)
Liftwire CP:.3 Stereo CP:.1 Anti-Theft Lock CP:.2

Hand Held Beam Gun MKIII: K:7 Range:550 (irrelevant due to Long Range) WA:+1 Weight:3.5 Tons Space:14 (8 after Space efficiency 6) CP:16.965


Total Weight:24 Tons
Thrusters & Speed:MA12+2 for wings x0.45 CP:10.8 Thrusters: Wings4 Legs4 Torso1 Arms2
Pre Stealth & Cloak CP: 86.365
Active Cloak + Stealth + Pulse Refract X0.6 CP:51.819
Total CP: 138.184

Gareth Rains 24 Male
After his Mercenary band broke up 4 months ago Gareth has been wandering the Belt doing odd jobs to make ends meat. And now he sets his eyes on the Space Jam tournament and the chance to sign up with the Iron Kestrels and turn Pirate.
Gareth Rains Born to a well-off Family of Doctors from one of the Factory Colonies out by Saturn, Gareth was raised to fallow in his parents foot steps and trained most of his life to become a Doctor. But Dropped out of Medical School at the age of 20 and used his remaining Tuition money to buy himself a Small Mecha and Joined The ghosts of Saturn to live out his childhood dream of being a Mech Pilot.
A jovial fellow he takes most things in stride and has immense amounts of patience
Enjoys social drinking and singing out of tune. Is a fan of up beat music that is easy to sing along with.
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>>1030947
Well, Crowe is rather attractive.

>>1030963
I find the shipping involving him hilarious for multiple reasons.
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>>1030963
I think it's cute.
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TEMPLAR

Heavy Striker Torso: C/S/K 10, 5 tons
Medium Striker Head: C/S/K 4, 2.0 tons
Heavy Striker L. Arm: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons
Left Hand: 2 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Heavy Striker R. Arm: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons
Right Hand: 2 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Heavy Striker L. Leg: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons
Heavy Striker R. Leg: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons
42 CP (18 Tons)
Armor: Medium Striker (4 CP, 4 SP, 2.0 tons) on all locations (32CP) (12 tons)
Beta Armor: Torso, Head, Right Leg, Left Leg
Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 CP, 2 Spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton

Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Liftwire (0.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP), Anti-Theft Code Lock (0.4 CP), Stereo System (0.1 CP), Design and Decor(+3CL, 2 CP)

Armament: The Knight uses a Mated Cannon and Lance, a hit of 6K to either will destroy both. The CP, Spaces, and Weight listed for either form is shared and not added twice to its cost. (22.6 CP) (ammo cost: .6 CP/tons)
[Handheld] Avalonian Lance (Lance form): WA 0, 6K(+1), 18 CP, Armour Piercing, Quick, 6 Spaces, 3 tons
[Handheld] Avalonian Lance (Cannon form): Range 350 meters, WA 0, 6K, Ammo 10, 1 reloads, 9 CP, 6 Spaces, 3 tons.

[Arm-Mounted] Small Shield: DA -1, SP 6, 7.5 CP, 3 tons

[Mouth-Mounted] Anti-Missile System (C1.7/S2/K1) Damage: 1k, Range: 150m, WA+0, BV 5, Ammo 10, Phalanx, 0.5 tons

Thrusters & Propulsion:
[Thrusters] 10MA (16 Space, 16 CP)
5 Left Leg
5 Right Leg
6 Torso


Total weight: 42.2 Tons (39.2 tons with weight efficiency 5 CP)
Total Cost: 139.4

Templar's Appearance
The Templar's armore is polished to a mirror sheen with gold accents and filigree embellishments all over. While in flight the thruster create a cloak of flame that trails behind him. The armor reflecting the flames and the filigree blackening. So it would look like a charred monster within and suit of flaming armor.


Pilot: Victor Gainsborough
Personality(randomly rolled): friendly, outgoing
Young Victor(age 17) enlisted not only to fulfill his duty but to research events and people for his writing projects, like Hemingway. He seeks adventures and enjoys chatting with anyone(especially his eccentric tournament opponents) to get material for his novels.

I really want to see how volatile this tourney becomes
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>>1030973

Isn't it based off the Bluegill frame?
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>>1030973
>But Wong Said last thread that the Graze was the Palamino
I thought the Palamino was the Stark Jegan?
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>>1030963

Debts are complicated things, and some aren't entirely finanial. Besides, it may not be as easy as all that...for reasons.
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>>1030990

Yes, and then I changed my mind. The Jegan and Jesta fit better as the new Medium Weights produced by Bucephalus.
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>>1030988
....Ya know when you redesign something so many times and you forget stuff... I may have forgotten that I said It was a Custom BlueGill
I really need to reorganize my notes
Forget I said anything and Proceed with the Wraith MKII being a custom BlueGill
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>>1030991
I look forward to seeing what you do with him. Wong.
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>>1030987
>[Handheld] Avalonian Lance (Lance form): WA 0, 6K(+1), 18 CP, Armour Piercing, Quick, 6 Spaces, 3 tons
>[Handheld] Avalonian Lance (Cannon form): Range 350 meters, WA 0, 6K, Ammo 10, 1 reloads, 9 CP, 6 Spaces, 3 tons.
I think this might be wrong. Of course, I'm not sure whether you apply space efficiency before or after you mate the weapon.
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>>1031024
it should be right. this one has been gone over many times by several people in this quest who understand the mad scriblings of the ATM better than I.
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>>1031005
Tell me about it. I know how the Zeonic design team felt making so many designs for the Dutchman. The F-type should be the definite one, but I need to make sure there is a floater thruster space for shield loadouts and that the balance is right.
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>>1031039
Is that the space only type? Are you even sure we're not fighting inside the colony?
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>>1031046
Well, considering he said no space only, the F-type is now more the mobility type to the Standard's melee. It's not as BIG an improvement as the space only, but it frees up about 14ish CP and 6 spaces total. 5 goes to thrusters, 5 go to a boosterpack, and the last three go to the eye laser.. if the math checks out. Not going to lie, this thing is a bunch of small tweaks that I have added over since the start. The quick swap, the Decor, the G hands, the booster pack, and the anti missile weapon.
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“...I'm telling you, no matter how many times you say it, I'm right and you're wrong.” Keith insists in a smugly superior tone.

“No, you're full of shit and trying to talk yourself up. Woohoo, you grazed him once. So did that curvy reporter from QTPI and I don't see her swanning around over it. The Berenger would have kicked the Black Ogre's ass.” Garret throws a spanner at Keith, which he dodges.

“That's dangerous, do it again and I'm reporting you!” Keith shakes his fist at Garret, “Look, the facts are clear. Twelve Praetorian Pumpkinseed IIs, one Black Ogre, the Ogre won. Roarke Starwind is a better pilot than a Paladin. Besides, he already defeated one Paladin solo.”

“Man, not to downplay what happened, but a lot of brave fucking Martians died damaging that thing enough for Amos to finish it.” Garret grumbles, “You didn't see it, that thing filled the entire sky with spears.”

Keith sighs, pausing in his work, “You know, about that...I've been thinking.”

“Be careful with that, you'll strain something.” Garret quips.

“Hey! I'll have you know my grades were perfect! Top of my class!” Keith protests.

“Go show your report card to the Avalonians, I'm sure they'd be happy to surrender on the spot to such a great warrior.” Garret rolls his eyes.

“Very funny, joking about finding a way to end this war peacefully. Really mature, I'm sure your father is so proud of you.” Keith growls.

“He is, thanks.” Garret replies promptly.

“Anyway.” Keith simply talks over him, “I've been thinking...maybe it isn't all about how much an exosuit costs that determines its utility in battle. Maybe it's about something else. Something deeper.”

“There are a lot of factors.” Garret shrugs, “Anyway, it doesn't matter how expensive they are. Superhuman warbitch beats glorified playboy pugilist hands-down. The Anseis was probably just the scrub-tier Paladin.”

Keith aims a lubricant hose at Garret and hits him with a precise stream of machine oil in the face, “Now who's downplaying what? You didn't see that thing at the Gate of Mars. The Anseis is a close-combat monster, the Berenger by all accounts had an anti-area weapon good for sweeping mobs.” He smirks, “I know for a fact, since my old exo-suit had a similar sort of weapon. It's not much good against one big, solid target.”

“Like your head?” Garret wipes the machine oil off, then darts into his cockpit. The eyes of his mech slowly flicker to life. It's a pale, factory green with an orange sensor core and purple highlights, heavily armored until it almost looks obese. It resembles a massively upscaled Warmouth with more facial definition.

“HEY!” Keith yelps as Garret's mech reaches over and pushes Keith's smaller Warmouth, “Stop that right now! That's valuable military property!”

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>>1031096
>“Stop that right now! That's valuable military property!”

And the Big Zam isn't?? Keith being a bitch as usual.
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>>1031078
Fair enough. I was just going to say that using a space only modifier in the tournament is kinda like buying an undercharged power-plant for the Kaiser. Sure, it technically allows you to save 55.5Cp for the cost of -1 MV and MA, and you can use that CP to increase your MV and MA by +2 each with a bit of change left over, but you're a complete asshole for trying it.
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>>1031096
You know, I should be considering the deep implications of Keith showing a non jesus side to things, but all I can think of s 'Mecha Pepe goes to best Boy Garret' and 'Lad bowl 2'
>>1031122
Aye, honestly, modifiers are a pain to work with on multiple levels. Plus modifers lose their value aside from a few cases once you go higher up. Even stealth options start becoming a non issue when you can afford a full sensor package. It is something to consider for a short production time line mech considering how much we use space, but I do agree that going space only with it was too much.
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“Sorry, comm troubles, what was that?” Garret's voice echoes over the comms, grabbing the Warmouth by the shoulders and shaking it, nearly dislodging Keith, “Did the happy father have something to say?”

“DON'T TALK ABOUT LYSA!” Keith jumps into the cockpit of his mech, and as the smaller Warmouth powers up it swings its arm around and thwocks the SOUL unit across the face.

It's time to step in. Thankfully, your PC has a megaphone app. “Both of you, knock it off!” Your voice roars through the mechbay, echoing loudly. You glare at them as they let go of each other and emerge from their cockpits, looking ashamed of themselves, “If Simon wasn't at Innsmouth running sims for his new mech, I'd have him kick both your asses. Slapfight all you want out of your mecha, but don't damage Irina's work.”

“Oh yeah.” Garret grins, patting the cockpit hatch of his mech, “What do you think of the Bufo? Sweet, isn't it?”

“It looks like a toad. I hope we both get new ones soon.” Keith grumbles.

You look at it closely. “It kind of does, honestly.”

“That's why I named it that. Isn't it a beauty?” Garret is lovestruck, “Double gatling plasrifles on each arm...I wanted solid projectiles, but your girlfriend threw a fit when she calculated the weight and ammo cost of the shells...and check it. See these quad emitters on the chest? Ultra sweepers. I hit the button, it automatically fills the entire sky in front of me with lines of fire. Yeah, can't stop me now, motherfuckers. Plus, this shield...”

“You don't need a shield, I never used one.” Keith scoffs, “You're the marksman, your job is to stay back away from the fighting.”

“That's probably why you lost your old one, choirboy.” Garret laughs, “Anyway, Irina had some other design she tried to push on me called the Alpheidae, but...that sounded too girly. I made sure she put Bufo in the official paperwork. Toads are water animals, right?”

“Sort of. I mean, they're amphibians.” You shrug.

“Exactly. Close enough to count for Bahamutcorp. There's no way I wouldn't pilot something like this, it's the perfect evolution of the Warmouth...which a certain bastard I won't name thinks is ugly because he has shit taste and is also shit.”

Keith's lips compress into a very thin line, “I'll pray for you.” He promises in a tone that makes it sound like the most damning statement imaginable.

[Continued]
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>>1031190
>but your girlfriend threw a fit when she calculated the weight and ammo cost of the shells
>MFW
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>>1031190
>Alpheidae
>Aka the pistol shrimp
>Aka, I hit so hard I generate LIGHT shrimp
Ok, add the Delphinus and the Squilla and we have a team designed to rape whichever poor soul gets in it's way.
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>>1031205
>I hit so hard I generate LIGHT shrimp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXK2G2AzMTU
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>>1031205

Speaking from experience, a big toad or frog will eat things almost as big as itself.
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>>1031215
Reptiles and amphibians are pretty interesting in just how weird they can get. Sure the blue ring octopus is horrifying with it's venom, but then you get things like the thorny devil which I recall shoots something close to blood out of it's eyes.
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“Hey, uh, Garret...can we talk?” You ask. There's something uncomfortable you need to do on behalf of a friend. You look around, but you don't see her dark skin or swishing tail anywhere, thankfully, she must have gone back to Innsmouth with Irina and Simon.

“Yeah, sure. Don't fuck up my Bufo while I'm gone.” He points an accusing finger at Keith, and slides gracefully down the liftwire.

“As if I'd damage military property! Even if it is hideous!” Keith spits the words back at him, but Garret ignores them.

The two of you walk off. You're silent, but eventually Garret speaks, “What's up, Amos? Something's wrong?”

You grab his shoulder, “You and Marilyn, you've been on a few dates, haven't you?” You twist the shoulder of his uniform, pushing him against the wall.

“Yeah? Hey, what the fuck, man?” Garret glares at you.

You loom over him, “So why were you collecting phone numbers from those maids that hijacked our ship?” You let go of his shirt, and jab your finger against his chest, “You're my best friend, but Lin-Lin's a friend too, and she's a good one. If you cheat on her, I'll personally beat the shit out of you so she doesn't do it, because she would probably kill you.” You're only halfway exaggerating, remembering how easily she got the drop on you on the ship, “She's not some casual pussy you just leave when you go home, we're soldiers in the UJCIDF, we've got to act like it.”

He stares at you, then claps his hand to his forehead and starts laughing, “By Jove, Amos. You really are the best. I love you, man. Not that way, but...man, you really are loyal. I'm glad to know you're like this, really.” He pats your chest, “It's not like that. C'mon, lemme go.” He looks under your arm, “Fuck, we've got company.”

“Kyaaaa~ Boys flirting~” Lyra Fleur sighs, hands pressed to her cheeks and her freckled face lit with a blush.

“Oh gosh, they're so cute together...” Lara Fleur clasps her hands tight, “I'm rooting for you all the way, LT! Root him good! Full dick!” She makes a mostly-complete circle with her thumb and forefinger, then pushes her entire forearm through it to the elbow, “Punish him good!”

“Oh. Just the boys.” Lyanna looks bored, then suddenly perks up, “Wait, does this mean Miss Gaunt is available? Uhuhuhuhu~” She bites her fingernails, a greedy look in her eyes, “I want her to scold me...”

>[Convince them this isn't what it looks like, quickly, before horrible rumors spread through the whole ship!]
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>>1031284
>Too late, the rumors are already spreading.
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Rolled 9 + 16 (1d10 + 16)

>>1031284
>Its just the manly bonding. Garret and me are cookies and milk, Avalonians and attrocities, Achilles and Patriclus, Caesar and Brutus, Corn and three field rotation,ect.
Keep going until they leave
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>>1031284
Gods damn it. I'd figured the crack pairing is Garret and the Clearwater.. or any non amos guy and Simon.
Either way, we aren't someone to cheat on our girlfriend and grappling another dude is not gay. Otherwise Roarke would be surrounded with guys and not girls.
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>>1031284
" Oh gaareett my sweet sweet garrett~"

Even in the far distant future, gay chicken
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>>1031305
I don't know if we'll be able to overcome thier lady boners for the purest love.
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>>1031284
"Absolutely not. Spread that kind of Rumor and I'll find some way to make you do actual Shetland Maintenance duty."
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>>1031284
"[shrug and look at Garret] as bad as these horndogs are this has nothing on when I space googled myself. Oh god after the news and wiki entries... [thousand yard stare] I couldn't bring myself to use the image search. The horror..."
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>>1031284
>"how dare you! My love for Garret is pure! besides he's not curvy enough for my tastes."
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Not-Hunks mech. Now settled on the Vayeate for its looks since the gellgoog is a no go. Just imagine the big round thing is a shield rather than a generator.
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Power just went out, phoneposting to let you know.
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I don't know when the power will be back, so I'm going to run over to a relative's to continue this.
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>>1031366
Good luck wong
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>>1031366
May Jove bless you on this most dangerous journey Wong
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Rolled 4 (1d10)

>>1031284
triple down on the gay, make the rumors more intense then the worst Anime yaoi fanfiction
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Hmm, I might not need to after all, I see one of those power line fixer cherrypicker things already outside. I'll give it twenty minutes before I interrupt a relative.
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>>1031284
>>1031311
do it
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>>1031284
Play Gay chicken
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>>1031394

Careful what you wish for, you don't want Irina getting jealous.

Also I think the power is back, the lights are back on and my router is reconnecting.
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“Gimme a D!” Lara holds her hand up as if holding a pompom.

“D!” Lyra gleefully echoes.

“D...” Lyanna mumbles.

“Gimme an I!” Lara points her other hand into the air.

“I~!” Lyra croons.

“I...” Lyanna rolls her eyes.

"Gimme a C!" Lara swishes her hips side-to-side.

"C! I definitely C it!" Lyra howls.

"Do I have to?" Lyanna crosses her arms.

“Gimme some kings!” Lara winks, extending both hands towards you two in a double-fingergun gesture, “What's that spell!?”

“Dickings!” Lyra jumps into the air, clapping her hands together.

“Dickings, I guess.” Lyanna grumbles, “I'll break the news to Miss Gaunt myself. Oh, I hope she punishes the messenger...” She smiles, licking her lips.

“This is worse than the time I did a holonet search for myself. Those WrenchWench comics...” You shudder.

“No! NO! It's not like that! It's not like that at all!” Garret protests, “A-Amos was just telling me I need to be faithful!”

“Yes! To him! Sweet, sweet boylove within a squad.” Lara hugs herself, batting her eyes.

“Noooo!” Garret wails, “Curse the gods for making me so beautiful!”

“This is just male bonding! We're having a serious talk!” You protest, “We're both taken, it's not like that!”

“Oh Garret...” To your utter shock, Lara's voice sounds exactly like yours suddenly. Exactly like it. Completely perfect, “Together, we're like milk and cookies.”

“Oh yes, Lieutenant~” Lyra purrs in an exact duplicate of Garret's voice, “Like strawberries and chocolate. Mmm!”

“Like Achilles and Patroclus!” Lara poses dramatically, “Oh, my sweet little Ensign, I'll protect you no matter what!”

“Oh save me from the Paladin, squad leader!” Lyra fake-swoons, “We're like Avalonians and atrocities!”

“Corn and the three-field rotation, yee-haw!” Lara fistbumps her sister, the two of them collapsing into a fit of the giggles.

Lyanna just looks bored.

"How do you do that, anyway?" You ask, "That's fantastic."

Lara blushes, "We all have a really wide vocal range. Lysa uses hers for singing..."

"We use ours for mischief!" Lyra winks and sticks her tongue out.

Lyanna sighs, "Why not Miss Gaunt and Major Cabot? Come on, universe...let a girl's innocent wish come true."

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HI Palomino: Yates&Hillyrd Conversion
Callsign: Loggerhead
Base Frame
Medium Striker Torso: C/S/k 8, 4 tons
Medium Striker Head: C/S/K 4, 2 tons
Medium Striker Left Arm: C/S/K 5, 2 tons, +1 melee
Medium Striker Left Hand: C/S/K 2/1/1, 0.5 tons
Medium Striker Right Arm: C/S/K 5, 2 tons, +1 Melee
Medium Striker Right Hand: C/S/K 2/1/1, 0.5 tons
Medium Striker Left Leg: C/S/k 5, 2 tons, +1 Melee
Medium Striker Right Leg: C/S/k 5, 2 tons, +1 Melee

Armor
Heavy Striker(5cp, 5sp, 2.5 tons): Torso, Legs
Medium Striker(4cp,4sp, 2 tons): all other Servos
Armor weight: 13.5 tons
Armor Cost: 27 Cp

Sensors:
Main Sensors (head): 4 cp , 1 space, 0.5 tons, 700 km range
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 cp, 2 spaces, 1 ton, 1 km range
Target analyzer (head): 5 cp, 1 space

Options:
Options: Torso cockpit with environment pod ( 2cp, space 1), lift wire (0.3 cp), anti-theft code lock (0.4 cp), stereo (0.1 cp), spotlights (0.2 cp)

Arsenal
A.M.S gun (head): WA +1, 1 kill (1 kill of structure),burst 5, phalanx only,
1 clip, 30 shots, 2 spaces, 1 ton, 3.5 cp total

Shield: Striker Shield (left arm): 7 Sp, 1 space, arm mounted, 3.5 tons, DA-2, 7 cp


Light Marksman Rifle (Right hand): WA +2 (WA + Tracer), 4 Kills, 450 meter range, Armor Piercing/tracer ammunition, 15 shots, 1 reload, 5 spaces total, 2.5 tons, 29 Cp total

Heat Estoc (left hand): WA+1, 7 kills(6+1), Armor Piercing, 5 spaces, 3 tons, 2 points of space efficiency. 11 Cp total


Thrusters: 12 (5 in each leg, 2 in the torso), 12 CP

MA= 400 meters of flight, 200 meters of ground movement


MV= -3

Total Cost: 139 Cp

Total Weight: 37 tons

Manufacturer Bucephalus Heavy Industries/ Yates&Hillyrd Munitions and Arms.
Serial number: 001 (original serial not found)
Pilot: Security Officer/Sales Associate Daryl Bradley (Mech pilot, Gun enthusiast, Tea Snob)
Bio: Formerly a Palomino pilot for the UJCIDF, Daryl works for YHMA (a glorified pirate garage/ smuggling ring), helping them to sell ghost guns at exorbitant prices to the colorful (and dangerous) people of the belt.
Tries to be a polite as possible while on the job. tends to loose his filter when agitated, surprised, or bewildered.
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>>1031411
Somewhere in Innsmouth, gay piano music duets are happening.
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>>1031432
Don't know how Noriko would feel about that
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>>1031440
she'd be on top of the piano in a lounge dress
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>>1031440
I'm sure if Simon is trying to be like the Black Ogre, he can figure things out. Honestly, if Simon survives the war, I wonder how he'll raise his kid? Try to hook him up with a bunch of girls, fix up the Squilla for him, and have to deal with his son's mental health issues.
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“No! I'm doing something to help the military and Amos misunderstood!” Garret fumbles with his PC, then brings up...a map program? He expands the holoscreen to a yard in each direction.

“What's that have to do with your love affair?” Lyra asks.

Lara grins, “He's using this opportunity to confess. How perfectly romantic.”

“I'm leaving.” Lyanna turns to go, only for her sisters to each catch her by one arm and spin her around to face you again.

“Well, I...acted like I was having doubts about our cause to the insurgents who jacked the Cicero. I can be pretty convincing when I want, and some of those girls were, um, very lonely.” Garret tries to explain.

Lyra abruptly scowls, “The cats? Ugh! Gross, I wish they'd all just disappear. They're a bunch of filthy traitors.”

Lyanna glares at Lyra, “They're on our side. A lot of them, anyway.”

Lyra rolls her eyes, “Yeah? So? The ones on our side are happy to sell out their friends and relatives in exchange for Jovian technology and credits. They hadn't even seen PCs until we showed up, only the nobility had any connection to the outside galaxy while the rest lived like ancient Terran peasants. They're primitives, and they deserve to burn along with Avalon, frankly.”

Garret draws himself up to his full height, “Watch your fucking mouth. My girlfriend is a Qu'liri.” He taps a small icon on the screen, and contact icons blossom across the map, “You're right, they hadn't seen PCs until we came along and sold them to them. The civilian models, in fact. Now, this isn't common knowledge, for obvious reasons...but they can be tracked, if you know how to trace the signal. And that, Amos, is why I did it. Most of them I expected just to go home, but that tiger-striped one I darted in the neck? She's deep in Avalonian propaganda, and she wanted so badly to convert me because that Paladin wanted to convert me. I just played along. Sweet, innocent me.” He winks, “I was out of my armor by then, she didn't even recognize me.”

“That's...” Lyra's mouth twists like she just bit into a lemon, “Gross. Why go for a Qu'liri with a dish like the Lieutenant right there? I'd have taken a bite of him. Well, more than just a bite.”

“And that.” Garret says firmly, his nerve restored, “Is why Irina hit you. Although, considering the need to restore the population...”

You shake your head, “I can't even think about that sort of thing.”

Garret blinks, “What? You don't even wonder about having a Martian Marriage? Come on, Starwind has one.”

“Starwind also has a bounty on his head that would let the entire squad retire to their own private ranches.” You reply, folding your arms.

[Continued]
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>>1031508
Well, while I smack some bugs, here is the Standard Dutchman. Pilot Maxwell C. Hammer. Wong's got the gist of the pilot already so I trust him there. http://pastebin.com/YnhC0xA0
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“Oh gosh.” Lyra giggles, “We've finally found one, a boy with a pre-War mentality. It's so charming and old-fashioned.”

“Hey, I can't judge, I don't think Marilyn's the sharing type either.” Garret shrugs.

“So, wait, can our PCs be tracked like that?” Lara asks the most pertinent question, looking a little bit worried.

Garret shakes his head, “Like I said, it's not well known outside of technological experts, I'm only aware of it because of my dad and brother...but military-grade PCs can't be tracked, otherwise we wouldn't be allowed to have them. Sadly, the same is true for the PCs used by most major criminal gangs, like the Iron Kestrels. Otherwise Starwind wouldn't be able to show up wherever he wants and steal everything he likes. That isn't the point. The point is, I know where several of them are, and this...” He points to a single spot on the map where about a dozen glowing golden icons are clustered, “This is suspicious, because there isn't a settlement here.”

You peer closely at it, “The Great Zinn Dam?”

“Zann.” Lara corrects you, “It's pronounced Zann. The Qu'liri alphabet is weird, everyone gets that wrong.”

You shrug. It's the Great Zinn Dam to you, “Why there?”

Garret grins, “Why did those Knights run there after they got beaten? Why didn't they ditch their mecha and run inside the dam once they knew they were outgunned? We didn't have a ton of people with us, they could have set a trap for us and maybe got away if they were lucky. It's because they didn't want us searching the site.”

Major Cabot rounds the corner, distractedly playing Ace Phoenix on her PC. She sees the map, and frowns, “Don't you all have something you should be doing?”

[Continued]
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>>1031546
Dammmn Garret.
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>>1031546
So Garret is both charming and smart. Dang, Marilyn got out lucky.
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>>1031546
You keep earning that best boy spot Garret.
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If Roarke joined the navy instead of becoming a pirate I wonder what girls he would have ended up with.
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>>1031564
We would have taken it upon ourselves The Great Task of curing fairchild's bitchiness with D.
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>>1031564
Every woman within a ten mile radius of Fairchild. Minus Cabot. REEEEEEEEEE
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>>1031546
Hey Wong, a question (hopefully it hasn't been asked before, but I can't find it in the previous threads) where in the layout for tourney mechs do you put the Body Form?
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>>1031564
well, i think clemmy and sam would have been a constant. Perhaphs one paladin we managed to beat on a 1 vs 1 (and we're forced to guard her because only near us she behaves), but other than that i have no idea.
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>>1031580
I think we might have got with Cabbot the entire reason we hate her is the shit she's done to us. And to me she seems like she gay for pay
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“Ma'am!” Lyanna salutes with a bounce you suspect is deliberate, suddenly all perky and cheerful, “Ensign Luxol's located the enemy hideout, possibly several of them. I was just about to run and tell you.” She smiles sweetly, “He managed to track them through their PCs. Jovian ingenuity always wins.”

Major Cabot smiles back, and pats her pink head, “You're such a good girl, Lyanna.”

Lara and Lysa both give Lyanna dirty looks for some reason. Lyanna practically purrs at the attention from the dark-haired woman, ignoring them both.

For some reason, you have a very bad feeling about this, and exchanging glances with Garret, you see the same troubled expression on his face. He turns off the map, “We can't trust this information, ma'am. It could easily be a trap.” You know him well enough to know he doesn't believe that, and neither do you.

“I'll be the judge of that. The file. Ensign.” She uses his title pointedly. “I'll handle this myself.”

Garret's eyes narrow slightly, “Correct me if I'm wrong, Major, but I believe Colonel Luxol is en route to take command of SOUL's forces on Qu'lir.” He puts just the faintest emphasis on the Colonel's last name, one he shares, “For a full operation we require his authority, and because General Fairchild announced that she's returning to the Solar System tonight because of some undisclosed business she won't be in command. If this is, in fact, a permanent base it will still be here a few days from now. If they were going to abandon it, they would have done so already. Unless this is all a trap, in which case there's even less reason to act rashly in hope of scoring brownie points with the General. With all due respect, ma'am.” His voice is even, “I read your personnel file, and it's funny, but you're listed as an aide, not a field commander. I don't believe you have the authority or the qualifications to, as you put it, handle this yourself.”

Inwardly, you're impressed. Garret doesn't take advantage of his lineage often, but right now, he is every bit a prince.

Major Bethany Cabot, however, doesn't hesitate in driving her fist into his stomach. He folds around it with a grunt, and she takes his PC right out of his hand, “Consider that a lesson, boy. There is authority, and then there is real authority, and you have neither. You'll be credited for this, don't worry.” She smiles. It's not a nice smile, “All of this.”

>[Stay quiet]
>[Speak up]
>[Break her fucking neck]
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>>1031587

Just put it somewhere at the top. I generally note somewhere if it's not humanoid.
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>>1031612
Ah, alright. Thanks.
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>>1031608
I know it's the bait option, but god damn I can't help but

>[Break her fucking neck]
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>>1031608
>>[Break her fucking neck]
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>>1031608
>[Break her fucking neck]
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>>1031608
>>[Break her fucking neck]
Gotta see where this one goes
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>>1031608
>>[Break her fucking neck]

NAAAAW
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>>1031608
>>[Break her fucking neck]
Does her attacking the son of the chairman counts as treason?
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>>1031608
>>[Stay quiet]
Going to be the voice of reason. I do not like where this is going and I got a feeling the four of them are too dangerous to piss off right now. Keep tabs on her though. No one hurts one of ours with no respect.
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>>1031612
Sorry, but I just remembered I have another question. The rulebook says you need wheels, treads, or a GES for a mechatank to move, but I was wondering that since 8+ Thrusters allow for flight, could I just put those on and say it can just float instead of fly? I know you said before you wanted to keep silly stuff like flying tanks out, and that's why I want to be 100 percent sure.

Really just doing the math for a GES and Thrusters is killing me.
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>>1031641

We were setup as a bodyguard unit for his protection, no?

Well then.
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>>1031643
>I know you said before you wanted to keep silly stuff like flying tanks out
>he doesent guntank inspace
For shame.
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>>1031647
I think it was more flying tanks in atmosphere. That's what I assumed anyway.
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>>1031643

Can it wait, honestly? You're embroiled in something much more important. This isn't just directed at you, but at everyone who wants complicated rules analysis during dramatic moments.
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>>1031608
>[Speak up]
Ma'am, you've just assaulted the Chairman's Son.
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>>1031653
Yeah, that's perfectly fine. I have pretty much all tonight and tomorrow to wait for the answer, I was trying to time it in between posts but I guess I kinda fucked up. Sorry about that.

I'll try doing both in the mean time. If I finish both before the thread ends I'll post both when it does and you can choose.
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>>1031641
In most Kingdoms the punishment for hitting a noble was usually chopping off the hand.
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>>1031660

Do neither, because "8+ thrusters allow flight" is wrong unless you mean MA. It's just...seriously, this isn't just directed at you...don't start asking for technical help and advice when you just voted to kill Bethany Cabot.
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>yfw this was all a setup so moe and caesar have to wreck havoc here to free Amos from the brig because Irina will not be going anywhere without freeing him.
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>>1031608
>[Speak up]
"Bitch you fucked up"
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>>1031656
>>1031683
and then we break her neck with a roundhouse kick.
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>>1031685

Breaking her neck is figurative, you have a monosword.
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>>1031668
The main question is why. Even bloody fairchild told us she ranks above us and chances are this will end with us getting in trouble with 4 different high level pilots. It makes no sense and could get everyone involved in trouble. On the other hand, this would be helluva anti-climatic end for a possible First Mate.
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>>1031688
>>1031668
This is the worst idea. Ever. Personally when I read 'break her fucking neck' I more envisioned what happened with Fairchild's maid. You know, WHAM, one punch, neck snap, all done.

This is the worst idea. But no other choice was ever going to be picked. Like I said, it's the bait choice, and god help us all for being unable to ignore it.
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Your sword is in your hand before you even think about it, the mono-blade's curved tip gleaming in the light of the luminopanels, “ON THE GROUND! HANDS BEHIND YOUR BACK!” You roar into her face, vaguely remembering how you're supposed to perform an arrest. You hope she resists. You hope she says something to give you a reason to cut her down like a dog in the street.

Out of the corner of your eye, you see Lyanna grab for a weapon, and you see her sisters grab her and wrestle her down.

Looking into Bethany Cabot's eyes, you realize something. She is about to kill you. There isn't a scrap of fear or hesitation, and her hand is already on her swordhilt. Anger boils openly on her face. “How dare-” She doesn't get to finish, you slam your forehead into her nose so hard you hear it crunch. She stumbles back, blood streaming from her face as she fumbles out her sword. That beautiful face is hideous with the nose smashed like a pug's and stripes of blood dripping past her lips and chin. The knowledge that it's an easy thing to seamlessly fix with modern medical technology doesn't make it any less satisfying, she's not the first arrogant officer with no field experience to attach herself to the senior ranks.

Lyanna shrieks in horror...but that isn't what strikes you. Lara and Lysa are staring at her. Hungrily. There's a vindictiveness in their expressions that you weren't expecting.

Farther down the hallway, you see someone approaching. An older man, perhaps in his mid forties or early fifties, he has one of those oddly ageless faces. He has shaggy brown hair, and a Lieutenant's uniform that, unlike yours, isn't stained with blood. He sees you and quickens his stride, calling out, “What's happening here?”

“SILENCE MCALLISTER!” Cabot shrieks in a nasally voice, gagging on blood as she whips out her rapier, “You...you WHELP, I'll...”

You hear a click behind you, the sound of Garret's holster coming open. His pistol is in his hand, pointed directly at her, “Go quietly or so help me, I'll see that more than your career ends here.”

[Continued]
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>>1031709
oh god, why is this so satisfying even if this is bad news.
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>>1031709
Amos' most deadly weapon is his head
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>>1031712
>>1031709
This is the worst idea ever, the worst, ever, we're in so much trouble.

God help me though, I have personal experience telling me that shattering someone's nose is really god damn satisfying, like, holy fuck.
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>>1031693
We're still Garret's bodyguard. Cabot assaulting Garret gives us ample reason to end her as a threat.
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>>1031712
If this was gihren's greed this is probably where the new zeon faction would start forming.
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>>1031693
>>1031726

Adding to this, Amos is also the only thing that is good in SOUL right now. she can't afford to lose us.
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Wait i thought break her neck was just an expression for getting into a fight.
Did you guys really just vote to kill her.
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>>1031737
My vote was more for just getting in a fight. Though like I said, I DID envision snapping her neck with one punch. It's not the preferred ending, of course.
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>>1031742
there may still be a fight
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>>1031737
there was no way she was going to die here. especially since no roll was called for.

Cabot is Roarke's to kill.
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>>1031737
well, we're in a fight right now, but if she decides to assault Garret again we might do it. We're his bodyguard after all.
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>>1031737
We voted to get into a fight.

If she resisted and we accidentally killed her it would be a happy accident.
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>>1031747
Are you successfully baited when you point out how poor bait is?
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>>1031752
Yeah. Just don't respond, man.
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>>1031746
>Killing Cabot
>Happy accident
I know one person that won't be happy, a person who will literally go off the deep end if Cabot dies.
Her name rhymes with Marechild, and she will find some way to literally but us on a crucifix if we cause any more harm to Cabot.
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>>1031754
We have the Planetary chairman on ourside. We did our job defending his son and our dad is in good with him so he should be able to protect us from Fairy.
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>>1031709
>McAllister
Who's he again?
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>>1031756
were also a big PR piece as a paladin killer, she'd have to arrange for us to die fighting avalonians or Roarke or something for there not to be a big stink about it
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Her lips peel back from her teeth in a bloodstained snarl, and abruptly, her legs are bent, crouching below the angle of Garret's shot and her sword poised to skewer one of you. She's fast, but the older man is faster, and he's broken into a sprint at the sight of drawn swords. That long, luxurious mane she's tended to so well saves your life, the other Lieutenant grabs it and pulls hard, yanking her off balance and throwing her to the floor. Thankfully for everyone, Garret doesn't shoot her.

“I'll ask one more time.” The older Lieutenant's voice is steely, “What happened?”

“She hit Luxol. Lieutenant Wedge was protecting his friend, sir.” Lara salutes him.

His eyes narrow, “She struck the Chairman's son?”

Lara's heels click together sharply, “Yes sir!”

The Major tries to get up, and Lieutenant McAllister slams his foot down on the wrist of her sword-arm with enough force to tear a choked gasp of pain from her throat, “Did she strike him first?”

“Yes sir!” Lara and Lyra shout at the same time.

McAllister looks down at Cabot with utter contempt, “You were awfully bold with my squad when I wasn't there to protect them, weren't you?”

“I'LL HAVE YOU ALL BEFORE A FIRING SQUAD! ALL OF YOU! THE GENERAL WILL HEAR OF THIS!” Cabot shrieks. Tears run down her cheeks. Not just from pain, but from rage and shame. You wonder if in her entire life anyone has ever humiliated her before.

“She will. From me.” The Lieutenant's voice is deadly calm, “You arrogant little fool. That's the Planetary Chairman's son you just struck, and I know for a fact that Lieutenant Wedge was personally entrusted with keeping him safe.” He leans his weight more on the foot pinning her wrist, “If he executed you for your petty, stupid cruelty the moment you swung your fist, he would be pardoned within hours even if there were no witnesses. Even if Luther Luxol's blood wasn't involved a certified Jovian hero is worth more than General Fairchild's jumped-up harlot, no matter what rank she pinned on your uniform.”

Bethany Cabot makes a sound more like a wild animal than a woman.

[Continued]
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>>1031758

The priest with the S-Slayer Mk. II who was on Team Orange Pekoe with Roarke's dad.
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>>1031758
McAllister is Roarke's uncle, I believe.

>>1031761
>>1031765
Ye. Him. I really like him. I probably shouldn't.
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>>1031752
>>1031753

I don't see why he bothers, it's not like we're on /tg/ anymore. You know what to do with the post, anyway.
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>>1031761
Thank you based priest.
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>>1031761
Goddamn this feels so satisfying
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>>1031761
Ohhhh, I know what it's like to get hair yanked that hard and fast. If the roots are deep and firm, that will smart like hell.
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>>1031761
Oh shit, are we actually about to get away with this. We might actually get away with this.
Sure Fairchild might be grumpier than usual with out her fuck toy around, but what could she possibly do?
This is the best fucking timeline boys.
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>>1031761

Well done Wong.

I'm feeling all this satisfaction from your writing on the internets. It is a fantastic feeling and a sign of how invested I am in this.
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>>1031777
I would say if we killed her it would be, but Roarke getting to do it would be much better
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>>1031777
Hahahano. Fairchild is going to find some way to get back at us.

and even if she doesn't, Cabot will.
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>>1031779
I agree it's satisfying, but I am still super fucking worried here. We're making a potentially dangerous enemy here, Cabot, Lyanna, possibly Fairchild...
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>>1031783
They would be the first people suspected now if something happened to Amos and unless we get sent on a solo mission with Cabot we should be fine.
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>>1031783

Oh no shit, shit is going to be very bad. The moment we're free of any powerful authority figures things go absolutely downhill.

And shes absolutely the type to go after people Amos and Garret cares about by being a vindictive bitch.
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>>1031786
Oh yes, it makes me feel so much better that we're safe around people who can protect us.

You seriously, deeply underestimate the crazy.
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>>1031786
The problem is Cabot does not seem to be the sort who plays fair. The drones for starters is pretty dangerous and if there was a unit of them that attacked those families, then my guess is she can control more than one. Also, poison. Cabot is a threat more so in her maneuvering than her combat ability. Mind you, her hands may be tied here. Too many witnesses all of them very important. Any attempt will be pinned on her and Fairchild will not be able to cover for her.
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>>1031765
>>1031767
Thanks. One week without MSPQ make me forget things.
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Lieutenant McAllister smiles like a saint, leaning down to look into her eyes “Does that hurt, being called a harlot? It's what you are, isn't it? Even if you are a pilot, you've sold your body and all of its talents both in and outside the bedroom for position and power. You, Cabot, are a whore.” He sighs, as if relaxing after a long day's labor, “The last time I saw an expression like yours, it was surrounded by a mane of emerald hair, trapped in a cockpit of broken roots and vines laced through her body. My best friend and I peeled it apart, dissected its owner to better understand how she functioned. It was in a little burned-out village on Mars whose name I never learned, long, long ago.” He removes his foot, puts it on her crushed nose, and pushes down slightly. Cabot's arms flail wildly, then go limp, “Sometimes, I miss the real War.” He remarks, then looks at you, “She's unconscious. I'll have her dragged to the infirmary, then the brig. Both of your squads, take your mecha and get back to Innsmouth. Fly directly, don't take a transport. I don't want you on this ship when General Fairchild hears about this, her temper might outweigh her common sense and turn this into an even bigger embarrassment to the UJCIDF.”

“Y-yes sir!” The three Fleur girls all salute, Lyanna casting a frightened glance down at the unconscious Major.

Lieutenant McAllister claps his hand on your shoulder, “Well done, soldier. Not one man in a thousand would have had the courage to do what you just did. Even if you didn't know what she was, sometimes our superiors are the greatest enemy of all.” He shakes his head, “Don't worry about reprisals, not official ones anyway, when the Jovian system works as intended even the most raw enlisted recruit has the right to self-defense against an officer. Luxol's family makes it easier, but...well, sometimes the Lord can make even a thing as vile as nepotism into a tool to mete out justice.” He makes that Christian handsign thing with the two lines across his chest.

Garret claps you on the back, and gives you a silent nod of gratitude. You nod back. There's no need for words. On your way to the mechbay you send Irina a quick message from your PC devoid of any details except that you're on your way back. The Cicero is back at Innsmouth, so you'll have a berth there at least.

The Delphinius hasn't had its vernier array installed yet, but it's still a fully-functional SOUL mech, looming like a great blue knight alongside its cohorts. The cockpit is comfortable, and as you fire it up you notice that Irina salvaged the metal plate with her picture and put it on the inside of your shield. Just looking at it makes everything feel more normal. The three Betta MPs take off first, followed by Garret's mech and then yours. Together, you speed away into the night.
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>>1031801
Also, Lyanna, the fangirl. Potentially another crazy bitch wanting us and ours fucked all sorts of up.

I am just hoping Fairchild is practical enough to discard Cabot over this.
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>>1031805
unless seeing her like this opened her eyes to what she really is
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>>1031706
>>1031723

Shakespeare once said "to thine own self be true", and she struck first. Sometimes the right choice isn't the one that's most sensible.
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>>1031804
Huh Papa Starwind did a vivisection to a greenman, neat
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>>1031660

Okay, now I can answer you. Yes, you would be able to fly, and no, no it isn't silly. What you have there isn't just a "flying tank", it's a Mobile Armor, a noble and respected weapon. I think you might need wings for it to fly rather than just groundhover in grav environments, but even without wings it works out fine for what you wanted to do, right?
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>>1031811
Fat chance of that. These types will only see the need for revenge after that.
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>>1031820

Wong, the 3 redheads are the squad McAllister trained?

Does he normally fight alongside them or is he just their instructor.
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>>1031821
maybe, but the other two may run interference for us or just calm her down and talk some sense into her
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When I heard flying tank, I thought about those whacky Veritech Hover Tanks from Robotech: Southern Cross (aka 'Wtf were the designers thinking )

I love that Gyan. What variant is it?
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Incidentally, although I'm sure I posted it before...here's your ride. You'll note it's listed as a Prototype. I should really have marked both the OG Tarrasque and the S-Slayer Mk. II on 16-Psyche with this, too. In the case of the Delphinius, it being a Prototype means it's not as agile as its final form.


S-Delphinius (Prototype)

Medium Weight Torso: C/S/K 12, 6 tons
Medium Weight Head: C/S/K 6, 3 tons
Light Heavy Left Arm: C/S/K 8, 3.5 tons
Left Hand: 2 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Light Heavy Right Arm: C/S/K 8, 3.5 tons
Right Hand: 2 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Medium Weight Left Leg: C/S/K 7, 3 tons
Medium Weight Right Leg: C/S/K 7, 3 tons

Armor: Officer's Light Heavy (7 SP, 10.5 CP, 3.5 tons) on all locations, does not ablate from damage caused by attacks dealing less than 4 Kills

Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 CP, 2 Spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Advanced Sensor Package (Head): 10 CP, 2 Spaces

Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Torso Storage Module (1 CP, 1 Space), Liftwire (0.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP), Weapons Cross Linkage (Repeating Beam Cannons 2 CP), Deluxe Anti-Theft Lock (0.4 CP), Stereo (0.1 CP)

Armament:
[Left Arm-Mounted] Amos Custom Hero Active Shield: DA 0, SP 12 (does not ablate from damage caused by attacks dealing less than 8 kills), 67 CP, 1 Space, 6 tons
[Left Arm-Mounted] Amos Repeating Beam Cannon x2 (stats show an individual beam cannon): Range 550m, WA +1, 8K, BV 3, Fragile (only 1 Kill of structure), 34.5 CP, 3 Spaces, 0.5 tons
[Right Handheld] Amos Custom Beam Lance: WA+2, 12K (only 2K of structure), EMW (treats SP as 4 less than usual), Quick, 41 CP, 8 Spaces, 1 ton
[Right Arm-Mounted] Amos Tactical Missile Array: Range 550m, WA +3, 10K (7K of structure), Fuse (Missiles can be set on a timer or detonated remotely), 10 Missiles, 29.5 CP, 7 Spaces, 3.5 tons

Thrusters & Speed: 5 per leg, 7 in the torso, 3 in the head, 1 per arm, moves 500 meters per turn in flight or can run 200m. 22 CP
Total Weight: 59 tons
Total Cost: 295 CP
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>>1031823

No, no, McAllister was part of SOUL B before SOUL's reformation, along with Lysa and Keith, remember? Fairchild made him leave the room before she beat the shit out of Keith and blamed Lysa for what she was doing while she was kicking him in the ribs.
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>>1031828
This is a beast of a machine and with MA+10. If it reaches final form with vernier tech and shit, this could be a Ogre Slayer.
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Considering cast size, should the quest have some kind of dramatis personae?
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>>1031820
OK, OK, good. It's too bad ammo is so fucking stupidly complicated, I really wanted a cannon. Too bad, at least energy weapons are simple.

Though you might not be saying it's not silly for long since I'm weapon mounting two shields on the torso.

And an aside to anyone who cares to answer, how big do you think a ~39 Ton tank in an anime with a fairly large gun would be?
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>>1031837
We haven't gotten our new upgrade menu yet

>>1031839
Probably when we get closer to the next generation
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>>1031834

Ah right, yes. I was wondering about the girls reaction to him and was wondering if there was any form of connection.

My mistake.
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>>1031828

Huh, I could have sworn there was an Emergency Heavy Missile in the head. I'll...look into that. If I didn't bugger this up somehow I can always add it to the final version.
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>>1031839
Yeah. I kinda lost track of peeps importante with the 1 week break of MSPQ.
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>>1031842
What if I don't want an upgrade menu? MSPQ, remember? Amos Arcs getting big enough to deserve his quest
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so a bit of a stats question here, how useful is having 22 MA? When experimenting with bird-ish builds I ended up making something with a giant cannon and 2 heavy beam guns that peaked at 22 MA counting the wing bonus and avian form bonus (139.7 cp)
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>>1031825

Krieger. Among the most aesthetic Gyans, personally my favorite, and Gyans are among the most aesthetic Zeon Mobile Suit lines.
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>>1031843

I'll give you three guesses why Lara and Lyra wanted to see Cabot get wrecked.
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>>1031840
Actually, that's stupid. One large shield would be better than 2 smaller shields wouldn't it?

Also, can you really not apply Defense Ability to Reactive Shields?
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>>1031855
Lies. Goufs are class personified.
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>>1031857
Cabot's their superior officer and she abuses them often?
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>>1031865
>Reactive
Meant Active. Reactive shields are banned, yeah?
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>>1031865

How do you parry with a bubble? Reactive Shields don't ever have a roll associated with them (and thus no DA), either they automatically block the attack, or they get pierced.

>>1031853

1100 meters per turn is nearly twice as fast as the fastest humanoid mech you've seen so far, the S-Swordfish Mk. II, if we discount the Oliver with its booster pod.
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>>1031853
Pretty good for hit and runs. 11 MA an action is faster than most machines. Though if you have three big guns, they likely are expensive or heavy. Whats the MV and general size? Heavy striker?
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>>1031870

I said among, didn't I? Goufs are among the most aesthetic Zaku offshoots, and the Zaku is also incredible.
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>>1031875
Yeah, sorry. I corrected myself to Active, but captcha was busy fucking me for 2 minutes.
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>>1031870
You didn't post the Zaku ii Kai
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>>1031878
uh its kinda weird and most of the MA is from the wing and avian form bonus as previously stated but here it is:
Avian mecha beast (MA focused)
Mega Heavy Torso: C/S/K 22, 11 tons
Armored Heavy R.Wing: C/S/K 9, 4.5 tons
Armored Heavy L.Wing: C/S/K 9, 4.5 tons
Light Weight Head: C/S/K 2, 1 ton
Super Heavy R.Leg: C/S/K 11, 5 tons
Super Heavy L.Leg: C/S/K 11, 5 tons
Cp: 64 weight: 31
Armor:
Lightweight (2 CP, SP 2, 1 ton) all locations
Cp: 74 weight: 36
Armament:
Torso-mounted Giant cannon: Range 12, WA 0, 12K, Ammo 10, 15 CP, 15 spaces, 6 tons
Leg mounted Heavy beam gun: Range 10, WA +1, 6K, Ammo infinite, 9 CP, 9 spaces, 3 tons
Leg mounted Heavy beam gun: Range 10, WA +1, 6K, Ammo infinite, 9 CP, 9 spaces, 3 tons
Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Anti-Theft code lock+ (.4 cp), Liftwire (0.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP), Stereo (.1 cp)
Cp 114 weight 49
26 thrusters, 14 MA, 9 on each wing, 2 on each leg, 4 on the torso, 25.725 cp, +6 MA in flight (avian) +2 MA due to wing to torso ratio bonus, 22 MA total
139.725
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>>1031882
>Gouf
>Zaku 2 Kai
>Not Geara Doga
Sub-par but still OK taste detected
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>>1031884
uh I think the MV would be -5 due to the avian form -1 and the weight class
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>>1031881

Active shields can have DA. For example, you've seen Active shields with -1 DA, and Amos' and Roarke's with 0.
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>>1031884

Hm. If I gave you in particular twice the CP to work with, a maximum of 280...what would you make with it? Build it, and I'll guarantee it sees use. Remember to format it the way I do.
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>>1031898

To clarify, I mean to make a bigger, badder, better version of that mechabird.
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>>1031873

Nope. Would you like to try again?
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>>1031893
Oh you can? The Zeta Plus book says it only applies to Standard Shields, which kinda confused me since Active Shields are regular shields after the first attack.
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>>1031884
>>1031891
It's an interesting build, that much is certain. Definetly built for range attacks. Problem is that it's armor is incredibly thin. Don't see any links for the beam cannons either. It certainly does have potential though and can be turned into a pretty interesting range harasser unit.
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>>1031907
her relationship with their friend is causing their friend to become twisted like her?
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>>1031898
>>1031901
I'm not even sure what I'd make this was largely just a test.
Guess I'll just have to see. probably beef up the armor, custom weapons, probably will need even bigger or more wings... maybe some missile pods, ammo space for the giant cannon... backup sensors... weapon linkages if I finish figuring out how those work
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>>1031898
Ace Mecha birdie
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>>1031857
Did she bad touch them?
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>>1031907
Oh I'm good at these

1. Their jealous of her womanly figure
2. She ate both of their homemade lunches in frot of them
3. They wanted to sleep with Fairchild
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>>1031914
>>1031919
>>1031922

Nothing offscreen, I'll just tell you. Lysa is their sister and Bethany had a sword to her throat while Fairchild was traumatizing her.
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>>1031939
Oh shit Wong you gave me a great idea for my character with that Mobile Armor thing earlier. Now she's not as boring as she was. Thank you.
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>>1031939
oh shit
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>>1031939
That makes a lot of sense
When's the Next tread Wong?
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>>1031939
And here is the F-type Dutchman. No space only for this one, but still quite capable of hit and run. Even gave them a new type of cracker grenade. Less damage and accuracy but THIS baby has armor piercing. http://pastebin.com/5aQ324nf
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so... experimenting with the 280 cp cap... I was able to give it full armored heavy armor and 2 missile pods at the cost of 2 MA but I think the MV penalty for the sheer weight would cripple it at -8 with an additional -1 due to avian form and I don't have spare cp for weight efficiancy like this... probably just gonna give it striker armor and focus on buffing the weapons instead.
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>>1031956
could try space efficiency for more thrusters and go for heavy striker armor. Should be enough to lower the weight some to keep it balanced and add some missiles.
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>>1031945

Tomorrow (well, by this point, "later today"). Same thread, same time.
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>>1031956
>>1031962

There's a lot of room between "Armored Heavy Armor" and "Heavy Striker Armor".
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>>1031967
Would you prefer I make a pastebin of my mech or post the entire thing here?
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uh... how does ammo work again in terms of weight and space? I wanna have at least enough ammo for 2 salvos for each missile pod and a spare set of ammo for the cannon.
once I have that.
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>>1031973

You might as well post it.
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>>1031976
For ballistic ammo (not Missile, I'll look over that again) each Shot takes up one percent the space the gun does (so weapon cost x .01 (make sure the weapon cost is before Space/weight efficiency)) and has the same amount of Kills. Spaces and Kills that end in decimals are ALWAYS rounded up.
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By the way, good on you as a group for picking the manliest option. All three courses of action reflected different aspects of Amos' personality, and led down very different roads.
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>>1031976
Oh shit, I completely forgot. I'm like 90% certain ammo Weight works like everything else, so its weight is half of its kills.
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>>1031999
Hopefully the trips mean I didn't fuck up the gun and shield this time.

Rolling Thunder

Mechatank Base Frame
Mega Heavy Torso 22 C/S/K, 11 Tons
Mega Heavy Head 11 C/S/K, 5.5 Tons

Frame Cost: 33 CP
Frame Weight 16.5 Tons

Armor
Mega Heavy (11 CP, 13 SP, 5.5 Tons) All Locations
(Armor SP +2 from Mechatank)

Armor Weight: 11 Tons
Armor Cost: 22 CP

Sensors
Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 S, 0.5 Tons, 700 km range
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 CP, 2 S, 1 Ton, 1 km range

Options:
Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 1 S)
Anti-theft Code Lock (0.4 CP)
Nightlights (0.5 CP)

Cost 63.9 CP

Arsenal:
[Thunderclap] WA 1, 10 K, 975 Meter Range, 5 Tons, 10 Space Efficiency, 23.5 CP (Base 18.75)

[The Wall] 15 SP, Weapon Mount (Torso), 7.5 Tons, DA 0, 1 Space Efficiency, 23 CP (Base 22.5 CP)

Total Before Thrusters/Weight Efficency
Cost 110.4 CP
Weight 41.5 Tons

19 Thrusters (All Torso) 19 CP

600 Meters Skimming (on land) or Flying (in Space)

2 Weight Efficiency 4 CP

MV= -3

Total Cost: 133.4 CP
Total Weight: 38.5 Tons

Pilot: Mai Uaifu
Former Martian Militia Pilot. Went AWOL after she was left the only survivor of her ship. Prefers heavy fighters and bombers. Current goal is to make the Rolling Thunder into into a flying Moblile Armor.

Anyway if you missed it Wong, thanks for giving me the Mobile Armor idea.
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>>1032010
Don't forget you also get a -1 MV for being a mecha tank.
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>>1032010
Well now that I've spammed the thread because I'm an autist that can't math, especially at 5 am, might as well spam some more. Here's the picture of the character.

Again, thanks Brazil for giving me the name. She probably would have ended up as Jane Doe if you hadn't.

>>1032013
I'm going to fucking kill myself.
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>>1031984
Oh Well, I just lost two sessions in a row...

But thanks for running Wong, it was a pleasure to be able to read another chapter of this amazing story.

... But what did you mean by that? What did you have in mind for the other options?

And... Do I need to respost the Walkure?

>>1031987
This... Is beautifull...

>>1031709
>people actually voted to kill bethany at the first chance they got.
For a moment, we all were Thunderbird.
I would have done the same.
I love you guys.
>>1031608
>Not!Hilda being a submissive sellout
Wong finnaly got to watch Cross-Ange...
Now we need to find Not!Ange before its too late.
>>1031190
>Check it, quad emitters.
Hear my words... This thing will not be easily forgotten, as it has been born under the power of the memetic magic itself!
Underrated post.
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>>1032015
You're welcome anon, Glad to help.
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>>1032010
You know, if I didn't have the lock I could mount a Super Light shield on the Torso...
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>>1032010
Note that by default rules, Mechatanks cannot equip Thrusters, only Gravitics. Since Gravitics presumably don't exist in this setting, I would guess that Thrusters would be a suitable substitute; however, the limitation of not being able to fly more than one hex above ground level would probably still apply.

Of course, Efficient Transformation between Mechafighter and Mechatank forms would negate this issue, but I doubt that's something that's available for purchase, nor is it particularly cost efficient.
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>>1032027
Wong said here >>1031820 that it could have thrusters though. I'll make sure to ask him if he knew I was making it a mechatank at the time when he gets back to be sure though. I'm not the most eloquent person.

Also, wouldn't it work as a GES in gravity since thrusters can always be used as one?
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so...I just realized I can add infinite burst value (x5 multiplier) to the heavy beam guns on the super bird mech and still have 22 MA medium striker armor and extra ammo for the giant cannon
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>>1032050
Note that Infinite Burst Value's cost multiplier was changed to x10 in the errata.

>>1032046
Fair enough. I could see an argument being made for it to be able to operate in zero-gravity environments, even if it wouldn't be able to make it there under its own power. Regardless, if Wong says it's fine, then it should be fine.

>Also, wouldn't it work as a GES in gravity since thrusters can always be used as one?
Yeah, you're probably right on that.
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>>1032062
>Even if it couldn't make it there under its own power
All part of the "make it better" plan.
Along with wings.

I'm going to ask Wong about the GES/Gravitics when there's down time next thread. Pseudo-GES does fit the rules, but I noticed Gravitics fits better thematically after you pointed it out.
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>>1032062
>Note that Infinite Burst Value's cost multiplier was changed to x10 in the errata
ah ok, gonna set bv at 5 then.
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Avian mecha beast (MA focused)
Mega Heavy Torso: C/S/K 22, 11 tons
Armored Heavy R.Wing: C/S/K 9, 4.5 tons
Armored Heavy L.Wing: C/S/K 9, 4.5 tons
Armored Heavy R.Wing2: C/S/K 9, 4.5 tons
Armored Heavy L.Wing2: C/S/K 9, 4.5 tons
Light Heavy Head: C/S/K 7, 3.5 tons
Super Heavy R.Leg: C/S/K 11, 5 tons
Super Heavy L.Leg: C/S/K 11, 5 tons
Cp: 87 weight: 42.5
Armor:
Medium striker (4 CP, SP 4, 2 tons) all locations
Cp: 115 weight: 56.5
Armament:
Torso-mounted Giant cannon: Range 850m, WA +2, 12K, Ammo 10, 36 CP, 15 spaces, 6 tons, clip fed 2
Leg mounted Heavy beam gun: Range 500m, WA +1, 6K, Ammo infinite, 27 CP, 9 spaces, 3 tons Bv 5
Leg mounted Heavy beam gun: Range 500m, WA +1, 6K, Ammo infinite, 27 CP, 9 spaces, 3 tons Bv 5
Head Mounted Missile Pod: Range 650m, WA +1, 6K, Ammo 5, 5 CP, 5 Spaces, 1 ton
Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 cp, 2 spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Anti-Theft code lock+ (.4 cp), Liftwire (0.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP), Stereo (.1 cp)
Cp 219 weight 71.5
10 giant armor piercing cannon ammo+ 10 giant blast cannon ammo: 3 spaces, 1.5 tons, Stored in torso 14cp
226 73

38 thrusters, 14 MA, 9 on each wing, 1.5 in each leg, 38.325cp, +6 MA in flight (avian) +2 MA due to wing to torso ratio bonus, 22 MA total
239.325 73 weight
+8 cp of weight efficiency
279.325, 69 tons, -7 MV

I boosted the accuracy of the cannon, made it clip fed with 2 clips, gave it 10 AP ammo and 10 100m radius hex blast ammo, then I made the beam guns have a bv of 5.

I'll get it formatted better tomorrow,
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>>1031888
all of these things make me happy
zeon mech the best
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People who unironically like Zeon Mech designs perplex me.
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>>1031596
Nah, from her POV she seems to have started actually caring for Fairchild a bit.

>>1032016
>Now we need to find Not!Ange before its too late.
give her to that martial artist Roarke fought. She can handle her properly I'm sure.
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>>1032093
You'll want cross links so that you can fire more than one gun with a single action.
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>>1032185
It's the same reason people like gas mask nazis, their inhumanity lends an intimidation factor
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>>1032185
Fuck you the zaku II a best. a. fucking. best
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>>1032185
People with awful taste perplex me.
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>>1032193
right... do inter-servo linkages have weight? or do they just cost cp?

also just remembered ejectable command armor is a thing... i'm considering completely redoing the mech as a 2 stage assault mech with command armor packed with missiles...
have it do a fly-by, shoot its entire load of missiles and then run away with its still high MA and then drop the armor raising its MA further and making the thing more maneuverable....
a 2 stage boss fight if you will
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>>1032358
I think command armor is basically banned.
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>>1032360
this thing isn't a tournament mech I think,
I was asked to play around with a 280 cp limit on an experimental gunbird build:
>>1031898
Still it does seem a bit much, I'll leave command armor for another day and just play around with linkages and other systems.
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Do you think Roarke has solidified his reputation as the Lu Bu of the system yet?
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>>1032353
So you understand where I'm coming from.
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>>1032368
We're not a temperamental dickwad with no Leadership skills.
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>>1032368
Well he's probably incredibly close to 10 and 10 for his mech fighting. That would put him on par with the Duke and Bluegill Joe in skill. Now he's got bit weaponry and depending on what we can upgrade, multiple layers of defense and a ton of nasty tricks. A previous thread said it best. The Paladins are scary because they are alien with a lot of weird shit. The Kaiser is scary because it's pretty much a brutally efficient killer designed to simply punch things to gibs.
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>>1032413
>The Kaiser is scary because it's pretty much a brutally efficient killer designed to simply punch things to gibs.

And there's almost nothing you can do to stop it.
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>>1031589
>Bodyguarding Fatima on her way to her wedding and investigating Rashad's treachery
>Love/hate rivalry with notorious pirate Red Siren
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>>1032471
If Roarke had joined the UJCIDF instead, would he, at some point, turn traitor and become a pirate?
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>>1032435
It hasn't even begun: Child Roarke with family
It Begins: Fairchild and Horse Corp get Roarke's parents killed and cripples his brother. Joins the Kestrels
You Didn't Listen: Green Skulls attack the kestrels, causing Roarke to find the Kaiser
Why Didn't You Listen: Suleiman I mission happens, hit piece on Roarke happened.
You Could Have Prevented This: Roarke destroys the Green Skulls, finds out about Avalon and his brother's death.
You Asked For This: Rashad fiasco, Paladin Capture and Psyche Raid.
You Can't Stop It: Space Jam, mass looting, the bits.
It's Too Late: Independant Belt formed, allied with Mars, and proceeds to deal with any dissenters. Finds out biocore technology and implements into into Kaiser.
It's Happening: Figures out how Biocore Works, find all he needs to implicate Fairchild for high treason, devours paladins and use them for his army.
It's Over: Roarke is well on his way to repopulating the entire belt with his children, all threats dealt with. The boulder is destroyed.
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>>1032027

GES exists. It's cheaper than thrusters, and most Martian Holy Militia tanks use them.
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>>1032476

Possibly, who can say?
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Oh god in the space jam i just wanna see a almost unchanged war era mech with the same armour thickness but newer alloys just tank some of the lighter fighters
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>>1032476
>>1032524
We'll never truly know.

Also, Wong, do I have to post the Walkure here again? And did you lost the Space Jam Gallery Link?
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ok, so playing around with space efficiency I managed to stick 2 heavy beam guns on each leg and linked them, made them fragile for weights sake, was cutting it close in cp cost, had to drop the .3cp lift wire

Avian mecha beast (MA focused, ver2.5)
Mega Heavy Torso: C/S/K 22, 11 tons
Armored Heavy R.Wing: C/S/K 9, 4.5 tons
Armored Heavy L.Wing: C/S/K 9, 4.5 tons
Armored Heavy R.Wing2: C/S/K 9, 4.5 tons
Armored Heavy L.Wing2: C/S/K 9, 4.5 tons
Light Heavy Head: C/S/K 7, 3.5 tons
Super Heavy R.Leg: C/S/K 11, 5 tons
Super Heavy L.Leg: C/S/K 11, 5 tons
Armor: Medium striker (4 CP, SP 4, 2 tons) all locations
Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 cp, 2 spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton

Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Anti-Theft code lock+ (.4 cp), Spotlights (0.2 CP), Stereo (.1 cp), Weapon linkage (R.leg) 1 CP, Weapon linkage (L.leg) 1 CP,
Armament:
Torso-mounted Giant cannon: Range 850m, WA +2, 12K, Ammo 10, Reloads 2, 30 CP, 15 spaces, 6 tons,
R.Leg Heavy beam gun: Range 500m, WA +1, 6K, 9, Ammo infinite, 11 CP, 5 spaces, 1 ton (fragile)
R.Leg Heavy beam gun: Range 500m, WA +1, 6K, 9, Ammo infinite, 11 CP, 5 spaces, 1 ton (fragile)
L.Leg Heavy beam gun: Range 500m, WA +1, 6K, 9, Ammo infinite, 11 CP, 5 spaces, 1 ton (fragile)
L.Leg Heavy beam gun: Range 500m, WA +1, 6K, 9, Ammo infinite, 11 CP, 5 spaces, 1 ton (fragile)
Head Mounted Missile Pod: Range 650m, WA +1, 6K, Ammo 5, 5 CP, 5 Spaces, 1 ton
Ammo: 10 armor piercing giant cannon ammo, 10 100m blast giant cannon ammo:
14 CP, 3 spaces, 1.5 tons, stored in torso.
Thrusters & Speed: 9 per wing, 1 per leg, wings add +100m in flight, avian form adds +300m in flight. Moves 1100m per turn in flight. 37.275 CP
+24 cp of weight efficiency = 279.75, 59 tons, -6 MV total

now... I could drop the +2 accuracy from the cannon and lose some weight efficiency in order to add burst value to the linked beam guns... how much do inter-servo linkages cost, I can't find them even with ctrl-f
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>>1032530
If i'm not mistaken, it should be 5 CP for that 4-weapon interservo link.... 3 for the interservo and 2 x 1CP ranged weapon link.

But it has been some time since the last time I checked the ATM, so i might not be as sharp as before about this.
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>>1032530
ah fuck, I miscalced the ammo cp, its 15 not 14, guess I'll change the explosive ammo to disrupter ammo which'll bring total ammo cost down to 12.
>>1032544
ok then... so since I fucked the ammo calc and changed ammo to disruptor and then drop the accuracy bonus on the cannon... I've got 17 cp free then. already have the 2 1cp weapon links so... +3cp for inter-servo... yeah I think I can add a bv of 2 to the beam guns if I'm willing to have a slightly worse MV penalty...
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>>1032527
That was one of my original mech concepts but it was dropped.
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>>1032527
That's almost what my mobile armor does, with its 13 SP armor and 15 SP shield. It's just not from the war.
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This should be this done then, all the beam guns are linked and have a bv of 2 and I was able to keep the blast ammo for the giant cannon
Avian mecha beast (MA focused)
Mega Heavy Torso: C/S/K 22, 11 tons
Armored Heavy R.Wing: C/S/K 9, 4.5 tons
Armored Heavy L.Wing: C/S/K 9, 4.5 tons
Armored Heavy R.Wing2: C/S/K 9, 4.5 tons
Armored Heavy L.Wing2: C/S/K 9, 4.5 tons
Light Heavy Head: C/S/K 7, 3.5 tons
Super Heavy R.Leg: C/S/K 11, 5 tons
Super Heavy L.Leg: C/S/K 11, 5 tons
Armor: Medium striker (4 CP, SP 4, 2 tons) all locations
Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 cp, 2 spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Anti-Theft code lock+ (.4 cp), Liftwire (0.3 CP) Spotlights (0.2 CP), Stereo (.1 CP), Weapon linkage (R.leg) 1 CP, Weapon linkage (L.leg) 1 CP, Inter-servo linkage (legs) (3 CP)
Armament:
Torso-mounted Giant cannon: Range 850m, WA 0, 12K, Ammo 10, Reloads 2, 15 CP, 15spaces, 6 tons,
R.Leg Heavy beam gun: Range 500m, WA +1, 6K, BV 2, Ammo infinite, 16.5 CP, 5 spaces, 1 ton (fragile)
R.Leg Heavy beam gun: Range 500m, WA +1, 6K, BV 2, Ammo infinite, 16.5 CP, 5 spaces, 1 ton (fragile)
L.Leg Heavy beam gun: Range 500m, WA +1, 6K, BV 2, Ammo infinite, 16.5 CP, 5 spaces, 1 ton (fragile)
L.Leg Heavy beam gun: Range 500m, WA +1, 6K, BV 2, Ammo infinite, 16.5 CP, 5 spaces, 1 ton (fragile)
Head Mounted Missile Pod: Range 650m, WA +1, 6K, Ammo 5, 5 CP, 5 Spaces, 1 ton
Ammo: 10 armor piercing giant cannon ammo, 10 100m blast giant cannon ammo:
18 CP, 3 spaces, 1.5 tons, stored in torso.
Thrusters & Speed: 9 per wing, 1 per leg, wings add +100m in flight, avian form adds +300m in flight. Moves 1100m per turn in flight. 38.325 CP
+8 cp of weight efficiency = 279.325, 69 tons, -7 MV total
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So, with the fact we know where the remnants are, I think it's safe to say that we should be close to capturing the last bits of the kitty kong. Only issue is; are we going to be facing Hector or a Paladin? Not sure what the Bufo or Squilla are capable of, but a rain of lasers or being a Eva should help us alongside the Black Tri Stars.Actually, our shield might just be strong enough to deal with those fancy axes too.
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>>1033332

Innsmouth is some distance north of the frontlines themselves, the main rebel stronghold of Ulhar is far to the south, where Count Lucas Ford and the Gerin are.
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>>1033384
>Lucas Ford
>Lucas
>Luca
Well, with what Hector mentioned about Mr. Ford, I can only imagine good things about this encounter. Friendly conversations, hunting parties, big ol' Barbeques.. truely a fun time for all! Hahaha-get the nukes.
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It's a long flight back to Innsmouth in a mech. To you a flight always feels shorter from the cockpit rather than riding on a ship, but that's just you. This one is an exception. The Cicero is twice as fast as the slowest mecha in your five-person convoy, and none of you have Mantas to ride on and speed the journey. You start fiercely missing the gallant little thruster sleds as the girls begin singing 'Blossom! Love! Heart!' To apparently cheer Lyanna up. Lara defends it as being an album their sister wrote, and you're eventually forced to cut comms to avoid going insane from too much S-Pop.

Daylight fades, and eventually Garret's mech grabs ahold of yours, and gestures for you to land. He's right, you could probably fly through the night, but it's a bad idea to risk falling asleep in your cockpit and both of you are worried that the Three Black Stars might not be as used to a wartime schedule as you and Garret have become. After all, they and their Betta MPs are shiny and new and probably accustomed to cruising around on the Iulia Maesa rather than having to pull double patrols because the Cicero is low on pilots. The five of you disembark, finding a valley with enough tree cover to hide your mecha from at least a cursory scan despite being in nominally friendly territory, and start setting up camp on a flattened shelf of land with thin enough topsoil to stop trees from taking root in more than a few places.

[Continued]
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The sky turns a pale green, then a deep, velvety blue, twinkling with pinpoints of light that grow brighter and brighter as the sky darkens, shining like jewels. This far away from the constant light pollution of the population centers, you can see them in all of their color. As you stare up at them, you wonder when the last time you really stopped to enjoy the night sky was.

Garret nudges you with his bundle of firewood, “They're just stars, man, you see them all the time in void.”

You shake your head, “Not like this. There's something different about seeing them when you're planetside. Hey, Garret...do you ever wonder how long people have been doing this?”

“Doing what? Looking at the stars? Forever, man. It's in a bunch of myths and shit.” He shrugs, “Before there was the holonet, people probably looked at them all the time.”

You sigh, “It must have been painful.”

“What? Looking at the stars? Are you sure you didn't get a concussion from smashing that bitch's face with your big head?” Garret looks at you quizzically.

You shrug, “I guess that's what I mean. Looking at them and not being able to reach them.” You hold your hand up as if trying to grab one, the shadow of your fingers falling across your face, “Maybe we know too much now. Maybe the magic is gone now that we know they're just...huge orbs of plasma.”

He shrugs, “I bet if you tried to explain to one of the ancients how you have a lance made of sunfire and armor that weighs sixty tons, they'd either worship you or have you executed for heresy.”

“Technology's made it too easy to be a demigod.” You opine.

He laughs, “Don't tell your girlfriend that, she'll start feeling unappreciated.”

“I'm not complaining, I just think it gets to some people's heads.” You try to defend yourself.

[Continued]
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>>1033549
>“I'm not complaining, I just think it gets to some people's heads.”
And suddenly, half of our cast including Miles and Richard start sneezing loudly. Cabot gets to sneeze with a broken nose!
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“Why would anyone want to be a god, anyway? What could be better than being human?” Both of you jump, hearing Lara's voice behind you. She's sitting on a log with her head down.

“When did you get here?” Garret tries to cover his surprise.

She shrugs, “We're the Three Black Stars, sir, we pilot the stealth mecha for a reason. Being quiet has always been easy for us.” She twiddles her thumbs, “Sorry, LT, I didn't mean to scare you.” After a moment she adds, “Or Ensign Luxol.”

“It's alright, and you don't have to call me sir when we're off duty.” You inform her, “How's your sister?”

She smiles, “She'll be fine. Lyra's with her. It would be easier if Lysa was here, but...the General's punishing her, she wasn't allowed to come to Qu'lir with us.”

“Just how many of you are there, anyway?” Garret asks.

She wrinkles her admittedly cute little nose, “Too many. I've got more sisters than I know what to do with. I don't like talking about family.” She shakes her head, “Lyanna wouldn't have drawn on you, sir, and she's not going to cause any trouble, I promise, so you can sleep tight tonight. No crazies here, no sir.”

“The fact that you have to say it unnerves me a little.” You admit.

She laughs, “I'm sorry, it does sound weird like that, doesn't it? Lyanna's just...she's lonely. We all deal with our family situation differently, and I think Major Cabot took advantage of her loneliness a little. She was kind to her, spoiled her a little, made her feel...normal.” She shrugs, “Lyra has her own problems, and so do I, but we tried to protect her as much as we could.” Her smile becomes a glare, “Don't feel bad about what you did, LT. Cabot is a cruel, vicious beast and the two of us had been wanting to do that to her for ages. I really admired you for standing up for your friend, you were really cool. I just wish I was as brave as you.”

>[What say?]
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>Finally here to play again.
LETS DO THIS.
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>>1033603
>It's my job to protect lil' baby Garry from the nasties in the world. Cabot had it coming the moment she hit him. What's her deal anyways?
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>>1033603
>"Bravery is an easy enough thing to have Lara. It's finding something worth being brave for that's the hard part"

Cheesy I know
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>>1033604
Sup, Brazilianon? How you doing?
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>>1033603
Well, Bravery is something you can learn, it just takes time and practice like anything else. Sure it may come to some easier, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try. We're human after all. We have the capability to grow and become better people.
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Did the stats for the Shetland ever get posted? I had an idea for an awful space jam contestant although he probaby won't make the tourney
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“Bravery is an easy enough thing to have, Lara. It's finding something worth being brave for that's the hard part.” You tell her, simply.

Garret rolls his eyes, “Gee whiz, Amos, I didn't know you'd become a cheesemonger in your spare time.”

Lara ignores him, her hands in her lap and her gaze directly on you. It's a bit intense, “You mean like you and Ensign Luxol?”

You throw one arm around Garret's neck, putting him in a headlock and ruffling his purple-dyed hair, “Yep. It's my job to protect lil' baby Garry from the nasties in the world. The Major had it coming the moment she hit him. What's her deal anyways?”

“On paper, she's just my aunt's aide, but really...let's just say the General likes to surround herself with beautiful young women she outranks, for various reasons.” Lara makes a v-shape with her fingers in front of her face, and pokes her tongue through it to demonstrate. “Don't get me entirely wrong, though, you're lucky Lieutenant McAllister was there. I think Cabot is my aunt's private hitter or something. It used to be just business and pleasure, I'm pretty sure, but...then something happened.”

“What's that?” You ask.

“I really shouldn't gossip.” Lara smiles wryly, “But I might as well, right? For a long time, Aunt Hermione had this SOUL Lieutenant she was besotted with, a girl named Alice whose life she'd saved. Alice was either completely oblivious or just too grateful to turn her down straightaway, and thought they were best friends instead.” She clears her throat, “Or so I'm told. I've never met her. I think Lysa almost did, but then...”

“Alice died?” You guess.

She shakes her head, “No. My aunt says she was kidnapped, but that's not true. Alice was a bit of a wild one, like Cabot, but I think it was more some kind of crazy than some kind of evil, just from how my aunt claims it wasn't her fault and she was taken advantage of. The truth is, she ran off with a man. A criminal. Someone my aunt hates. She got in contact with him and he rubbed it in her face. Apparently they're getting married now. Major Cabot might be an opportunistic bitch, but she was there when my aunt needed her and picked up the pieces. She's started relying on her a lot more than she used to.”

“Lieutenant Alice Farragut.” Garret states.

“What? The Butcher?” You feel a chill down your spine at that name. You've heard of the Butcher. Everyone has heard of the Butcher. The mad blonde devil of SOUL is someone you've hoped never to actually meet, “Wait, I heard about that. She quit, right?”

Garret nods, “She ran off with Roarke Starwind. Love among monsters, right?”

“Heh, yeah.” Lara rubs the back of her head, “Love among monsters. By the way, apparently Lysa isn't really pregnant. She says someone swiped her PC and decided to play a prank. Probably some maid of my aunt's or something, I hope they know how much trouble they caused.”

[Continued]
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>>1033742
Oh that poor maid is going to have to be careful of Miss Cabot now. Poor girl has a luck of 1.
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>>1033640
Ehhh... Not very well... I was very sick some days ago... And before that I had a very serious fight with my Best friend because of a very serious and wrong thing she did, that continued from the last days of november into the first week of this year....

But I'm finally more at peace and a little better after all this mess, and happy to be able to be with you guys here again.
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>>1033766
That sucks Brazilia
At least you get to join us for some Mecha story time tonight
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>>1033766
Murder? Rape? a Rape-Murder?
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>>1033766
Well, it is the season for those two things. Cold weather tends to harden the heart and the holiday season makes it worse for many. Glad you are feeling better BRanon.
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>>1033760
I still say that if Lyanna's in the market for a dom she should look the maid up.
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“Young seems pretty devoted to her.” You remark.

She smiles, “He should be. She was being pushed towards a relationship with a wealthy Europan scion by my aunt, he was dating a mechanic, they met at a party and things just...happened.” She covers her mouth, “That sounds so tawdry. Anyway, they've stuck together like glue ever since. Lysa's normally the most mature of us, but where Keith is concerned she's a complete pushover. I don't know what she'd do if he got hurt.”

You shrug, “Love is love, I know how that feels.”

She sighs, “Yes. I know.” She looks up suddenly, and points, “Hey, a shooting star. Make a wish!”

Garret peers at it, “That's a transport. Funny, it must be one of ours since we've got space superiority right now, but it doesn't look like it's landing at Celephais.”

Lara sticks her tongue out, “I'm wishing anyway.”

Lyanna and Lyra return from the stream where they were washing up, waving to Lara. Lyra calls out to her, “Did the boys peek?”

Lara cups her hands around her mouth and calls back, “No! They were good!”

Lyra pouts, “Aww.”

Garret nudges you, and mutters, “Man, why couldn't this have happened back when we were single? Hey, remember that time we found the hole in the wall between the showers at the Academy?”

“Yeah, you charged ten credits for anyone who wanted to peek and nearly got beaten up when the girls found out.” You mutter back.

He grins, “Good times.”

Dinner is a subdued affair, the fire is warm but all you have to eat are meal bars, there isn't enough light to go fishing and it's not safe to wander around in the dark. Eventually, you all get out your emergency-use sleeping backs, and prepare to turn in.

>[Roll 1d10+11]
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>>1033766

I'm glad you're feeling better, welcome back.
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Rolled 4 + 11 (1d10 + 11)

>>1033785
uh oh
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>>1033766
sorry to hear that Brazillia. hope you find some solace in the upcoming Space Jam
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>>1033789
Managed to pass a 15 so we should be good. Don't think there was little chance of beating a 20.
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Rolled 2 + 11 (1d10 + 11)

>>1033785
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Rolled 2 + 11 (1d10 + 11)

>>1033785
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Rolled 10 + 11 (1d10 + 11)

>>1033785
AMBUSH!! OR RAPE!!!
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Game continues in an hour so Wong can eat.
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>>1033806
Too bad its first roll
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However, before I eat...you successfully heard footsteps, and heard a twig snap. Someone or something is out there, watching you. What will you do?
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>>1033813
Probably best to be alert and have our weapon ready. Make sure Garret knows and be ready in case of bullshit. Either it's a native or a ambush. Either way, snooper no snooping.
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>>1033813
Set the woods on fire, It might be a Space!Skinwalker.
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>>1033813
>>1033818
Basically this
Just adding don't tip them off that we know they are there
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>>1033813
Well if it's the Space Vietnamese, I'll bet if we start intentionally misquoting Marx and talking about how Space Vietnam will never gain its independence they'll be taunted into revealing themselves.
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>>1033818
>It's Bueno no Bueno
FTFY
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>>1033813
Try to subtly let our fellows know about the someone/something, and make sure whatever it is doesn't get in the way of a quick dash to our beautiful sixty tons of armor, in case we need to make it.
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>>1033873
And that the Dog Girls of K9 are better than them. More loyal, friendly, willing to help, and oh so intelligent. A joke of course.
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>>1033813
>>1033887
>>1033818
THIS
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>>1033889
Ooh that's good.
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>>1033776
Yeah... I don't know how I survived so much time without MSPQ... Wong, please, don't do this again T.T
>>1033778
She... She got in "this-is-tottaly-not-an-romantic-affair-because-I-didn't-had-sex-with-him-yet" type of relationship with this married guy who is ten years older than her... And almost everyone around her who wasn't dumb or biased tried to show her that this obviously was going to end badly.
But she didn't heard anyone and lashed out at most of her acquaintances because "I'm just following my heart", even when it was pretty clear that she was going to screw his life and her own relationships with many people by refusing to see reality and acting in a childish manner in order to try to reach this mad dream that was fated to tragedy from the begining.
In the process she losed contact with almost all of her friends, ended up without much contact with the guy anyway for the next two years(because of IRL problems of the two of them) and almost caused her brother to fall into alcoholic coma when he drank too much because of how betrayed he felt by the situation, as he never expected her to act in such a egoistical and irreponsible manner.
I tried to avoid the shitstorm by having her see that reality of the situation and that even if she ended up with him she would carry the consequences of being a "homewrecker" for probably her whole life, and lose the trust of even the people that loved her... But she didn't wanted to listen... And now she is kind of abandoned by everyone but her family(who seem to already have some sort of reputation of being "degenerates").
There were more complications involved, but I don't think that the details matter much here.
>>1033780
Here its summer... INFERNO LEVELS OF HEAT summer... And it can be even worse for some cases, as it causes people to be restless and impatient, easily getting themselfs in trouble.

>>1033788
Thanks Wong, It means much for me to be able to be here with you guys again, also... Sorry for being too much off-topic sometimes...
>>1033791
I CAN'T WAIT TO JAM!
and how are you my avalonian friend? I see that you still didn't change the price of the parts of the mated lance... And I almost went full beserk when some anon suggested that the lance itself could be wrong... AFTER SO MANY HOURS DEDICATED IN CHECKING AND RE-CHECKING IT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Are you going to stay quiet or talk to try to get them to come out, basically?
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>>1034013
Stay quiet, but have our gun loaded and ready to go
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>>1034013
Quiet...
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>>1034013
Quiet. I mean, I suspect its Caesar, but still.
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>>1034003
I can't imagine how shit South American summers would be. Summers in Georgia (the state) always have humidity out the ass. It feels like you're trying to breathe water and everything always feels damp, even though it's not.

>>1034013
If you're counting my "shitpost the Space Vietnamese" thing, don't. I was just making a joke. It's a pretty stupid idea compared to the other one.
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>>1034013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvnzAlh9PmA
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>>1034013
Keep quiet, but keep tabs on them. If they try for our machines, warning shot. We don't want them trying to sabotage or wreck them.
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>>1034030
Actually, to expand on that, they may have tech to scan our machines or at least figure out what they are. Also, get Garret on that PC tracker and see if this person is one of the catgirls.
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>>1034013
>>1034040
THIS. NOW.
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You hear the sound of successive, scraping impacts and a disturbance in the underbrush. Footsteps. It wakes you up just as your brain is producing melatonin to help you relax, and you're floating in that semi-conscious state just before sleep. You glance around without sitting up, wondering who's off in the bushes relieving themselves.

There's Lyanna, Lyra, and Lara, all in a row like three pink-haired peas in a pod. Garret, then? No, you hear him let out a faint snore and roll over in his sleep, a yard or so away from you. You roll towards him a little, and subtly creep your arm out of your sleeping bag, poking him.

“Whhh?” He asks blearily, but you quickly hold a finger to your lips, shaking your head. You hear another crunch, and a sound you're only familiar with through hanging out with Marilyn at your fishing spot. It's a sound like a tail wagging through underbrush, a faint, rhythmic srrrsh-srrrsh-srrrsh of green plants being batted by a swishing appendage.

You reach for your gun, and slowly, carefully turn the safety off. It makes a muted click.

You're not sure whether your observer heard you or not, but for a moment, there's dead silence. Then the sound of the footsteps receding.

>[Follow]
>[Stay here]
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>>1034061
>>[Follow]
follow the noise into woods and hope it's not a Space Spoop
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>>1034061

>[Follow]
RUN! DON'T LET THEM GET AWAY!
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>>1034061
>[stay]
Safety in numbers
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>>1034061
>[Follow]
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>>1034061
>>[Follow]
With a mix of >>1034040
We have tracking technology. We should use it to prevent a ambush. Also, get the three girls up. If this is a ploy to surround us, get in the machines and get ready to counter.
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>>1034061
>[Follow]
But warn one of the Tri-stars so that they know we left.
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“Hey, Garret.” You sit up, and stealthily get out of your sleeping bag, speaking quietly, “We can't let a spy escape. Get the girls up, get the mecha prepped just in case...if you hear me scream, come help, alright?” There's no time for him to check that tracking program, and it wouldn't be much good anyway, he didn't have time to charm ALL of the maids and you're sure there are more insurgents that weren't on the mission to hijack the Cicero. Getting up, you stealthily head out into the woods.

It's dark, aside from where the silvery lights of stars and moon create ghostly columns of radiance, pale illumination outlining the world in black and white. You keep good pace with the sound of retreating footsteps, until suddenly they stop. You see something thick and so fluffy it almost looks feathered sticking out of a bush, swaying side to side. It's definitely a tail. You grin, and aim your gun, “Alright, that's enough. Come out with your hands up. If you've got any allies with you, I suggest they come out too unless they want you shot. This gun makes a bit of a mess.”

“Quork?” The thing in the bushes responds, lifting its head with a strange, trilling noise and digging its claws into the forest floor as it turns to face you. Its high, feathered crest reminds you improbably of a cockatiel's as it lifts up, and it bares fangs the size of a child's fingers as it hisses menacingly.

That isn't a Qu'liri native.

That isn't a Qu'liri native at all!

>[Roll Initiative, 1d10+10]
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Rolled 1 + 10 (1d10 + 10)

>>1034131
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Rolled 4 + 10 (1d10 + 10)

>>1034131
SHIT SPACE RAPTOR!!!!
>>1034133
...SHIT
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Rolled 9 + 8 (1d10 + 8)

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>>1034133
Y'see, Thunder, this is what happens when you don't roll to Seduce.
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>>1034143
Uh... Do we get a bonus if we call it an overgrown chicken?
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>>1034144
Hey I do pretty alright on murder rolls too
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>>1034133
>>1034143
...Clever girl.
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>>1034133
... god dammit Thunder.
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>>1034143
So.. going to say right now I want to spend luck to not die by Giga-dodo.
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Wouldn't it be funny if the Blue Knight, who took down a Paladin, who recaptured a UJCIDF cruiser with zero casualties, is done in by a space chicken.
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>>1034150
>>1034149
Well at least we told Garret to come running if we scream, granted these are going to be screams of pain.
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Rolled 10 + 16 (1d10 + 16)

Now gimme some 1d10+14s, I'll add your +2 from your higher Dodge score separately.

Also, pistol or monosword?
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REMEMBER TO SPECIFY IF YOU'RE SPENDING LUCK!
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Rolled 9 (1d10)

>>1034180
>monosword
I knew this was going to go like this.

I'll add 2 luck.
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Rolled 2 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1034180
Pistol, gotta keep distance
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Rolled 3 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1034180
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Rolled 7 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1034180
Fucking space chicken. Spending 2 luck to not get critted. We need to use our sword to parry his blows!
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>>1034187
I am a god.
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Rolled 8 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1034180

Damn it, a rule is a rule. I can't accept improperly formatted dice even from me. This thing has Reflexes 8, and it does NOT have Hand-to-Hand 8.
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>>1034197
>>1034187
Hey god, you forgot the +14.
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Rolled 5 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1034180
Monosword.

My God, gentlemen, we are swordfighting a raptor in Space Vietnam. This Quest is AMAZING.
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Rolled 4 + 1 (1d6 + 1)

>>1034197

Nope, because your roll wasn't formatted right it was discarded.
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Rolled 9 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1034180
Drop three luck on this
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>>1034202
Oh wait, forgot about that. Damn. I was still remembering you saying not to add bonuses last thread or so.
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>>1034208
>>1034180
Crap, I forgot to say add two luck.
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can we tame it? it looks fluffy~
plus its doing a good job of killing us it seems like.
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Rolled 1, 10 = 11 (2d10)

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>>1034150
Beat me to it.
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>>1034172
KEK!
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>>1034213
We have our flight suit on I take it? With the helmet we should be able to withstand a hit. Because going out to the woods naked would be bad.
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Rolled 3, 4, 2, 1 + 2 = 12 (4d6 + 2)

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>>1034231
Also, be glad we have body 10. With armor and our hits, even our melon head is tanky.
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>>1034243
Man, that was so close to counting down.
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Rolled 2, 7 = 9 (2d10)

>>1034208
>>1034214
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More dice!
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Rolled 6 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1034284
You're so needy
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Rolled 3 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1034284
HERE WE GO!
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Rolled 6 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1034284
God damn space chicken! Sword and space suit don't fail us now!
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Rolled 9 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1034284
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>>1034284
I'll bet this is all a ploy by the Space Vietnamese. This is actually a trained attack chicken sent here to kill Amos because he's done so much damage to their operation.

They'll be popping out of holes in the ground any second now, with really outdated weapons and those straw hats farmers wear.
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Rolled 1 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1034284
>>1034298
Don't know how I fucked that.
I blame my boss, he's driven me to consumption. At least he may be getting sacked soon after his sudden-onset retardation about work schedules if the rumors are to be believed.
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>>1034298
Plus side is we just found breakfast, lunch, and dinner if we survive this.
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Rolled 9, 6, 1, 3, 1 = 20 (5d10)

>>1034286
>>1034288
>>1034290
>>1034292
>>1034311
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Rolled 2 (1d10)

>>1034335
>>1034335
I think the dice gods are trying their best to make my dice not suck shit. They have their work cut out for them.
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>>1034335
Garret, show how best boy you are and SHOOT THE DIRE DODO.
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Rolled 10 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

Still more dice. Just keep rolling. Do at least three or four each, separately. Dice are good! Dice are great!
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Rolled 8 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1034367
So when do we fight a mech sized dinosaur Wong?
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Rolled 5 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1034367
Praise be the dice god
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Rolled 4 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1034367
inb4 1

2 luck if we still have it.
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Rolled 2 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1034367
..Wong's dice addiction is starting to get bad.
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Rolled 7 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1034367
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Rolled 3 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1034367
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Rolled 4 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1034367
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>>1034367
Man, that raptor is rolling pretty fucking good. Should we be worried it will almost kill Amos?
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Rolled 6 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1034377
I told you we should have had an intervention long ago.

It's far too late now.
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>>1034371
If that is our dodge roll, you just saved us from getting reamed by the evil emu.
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Rolled 5 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1034367
dice+1d10+14
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Rolled 10 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1034367
This is 4.

You need some help though, Wong.
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Rolled 8 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1034386
The mere mention of dinosaurs gives me strength check it >>1034367
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>>1034383
unless it's buddies are chilling nearby i think we're good.
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Rolled 6 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1034367
Are.. are you okay, Wong?
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Rolled 6 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1034367
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Rolled 6 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1034367
Is this the infame Lazer Raptor?
Where is Not!KungFury when we need him?
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>>1034405
And I just realized something. This entire time we have not gotten a single 10. Not one. This may very well be a meme come true. Raptor Jesus.
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>>1034411
>>1034394
Excuse me I had already made up for my shitty luck and drunken fails.
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>>1034411
KEK confirms Raptor Jesus
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>>1034003
MY AVALONIAN FRIEND
sucks to here that man
the jam is just going to be awesome
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>>1034425
i want one.
i want one as a pet right now
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The huge, white-feathered raptor doesn't roar, it lifts its head up and barks four or five times, a chittering, modulated sound like some sort of reptilian dolphin. Then it hisses like a snake, lowering its head and charging you faster than you believed possible. It leaps into the air, spreading its feathered arms wide, closely resembling a pair of flightless wings as it eviscerates you with its lethal, curved claws...

...At least, it tries to. Your belly isn't soft and defenseless like its usual prey, or protected by nothing but clothes like a civilian's. You're a UJCIDF pilot, and you have an armored flight suit. It knocks you back with the force of its kick, your back fetching up against a tree, but fails to do more than scratch your pilot suit. Then you show it your own long claw with a swift horizontal draw-cut of the Duchess' saber, beheading it as easily as cutting pudding with a spoon. Blood fountains up from the now-headless neck, and it collapses.

“Don't these things hunt in...” You duck at exactly the right moment, as a second one, slightly smaller and more drab, probably a female, leaps over your head with talons extended. Of course they hunt in packs! On instinct, you duck around the tree as a third jumps out of the underbrush, trying to hamstring you with a swift bite, its jaws clicking shut just inches from your ankle. You hear rustling all around you. You're thankful for Species of Earth's special on dinosaurs, who said simflicks aren't good for you?

“GARRET!” You yell. Fuck subtlety.

You fire a potshot at the raptor that jumped over your head, but miss, even with the night-sights on it lining up a shot in the semi-darkness is difficult. At the same time, you swing your sword down at the one that went for your leg, but it pulls its head back just in time. They snap and claw at you, and someone without military training probably would have frozen up and gotten swarmed, but you're not one of those people, you're an elite SOUL pilot and no slouch with a monosword. You're able to avoid their attacks, but you can tell they're herding you towards more open ground where you can be surrounded by the other raptors you hear approaching.

You hear a gunshot ring out.

[Continued]
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>>1034437
Thank goodness for our space suit. Now I am picturing one of those old comic covers dealing with vermin.
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>>1034455
what the hell is that?
chewed to bits by turtle? what?
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Rolled 10, 6, 7, 3, 3, 2 = 31 (6d10)

>>1034375
>>1034376
>>1034377
>>1034378
>>1034380
>>1034382
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>>1034458
Oh I certainly hope thats Garret going full auto and that he has the gun with the attack bonuses. If I recall, he's pretty good with it.
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>>1034458
I just tied both of my rolls, one because I added luck. What is even going on.

I hope they're defensive rolls at least.
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>>1034457
Man's Life. The must-have magazine for men everywhere.
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Rolled 1, 9, 3, 1, 8, 7 = 29 (6d10)

>>1034387
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>>1034497
>rolled a 9 vs my 10
This is kinda scaring me now.
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>>1034497
I feel from this fight alone we are gaining quite a bit of dodge experience. Would not be surprised if we gave a level or two of it simply dodging these damn raptors.
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Rolled 1, 3, 4, 1 + 2 = 11 (4d6 + 2)

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>>1034497
Are these fuckin Turok Raptors on steroids?
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>>1034507
Thats one raptor down.
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Rolled 2, 6, 3, 3 + 2 = 16 (4d6 + 2)

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Rolled 9, 9, 7, 2, 9, 5, 9, 9, 2, 9, 3, 1, 10, 10, 1, 5 = 100 (16d10)

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>>1034526
That is a lot of 9s.

Also, a perfect 2/3rds of the 150 max.
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>>1034526
Why are so many raptors fighting us? You'd figure with 3 dead they'd book it at the thought of getting killed.
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>>1034526
Is that for Garett or the Raptors? cause Damn son
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>>1034533
>implying that Raptors are smart enough to make this type of strategycal thinking.
Anon... I don't think that dinosaurs work that way...
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>>1034537
I think it would be more of an animal thing. Pack hunters will run if it looks like the prey they're trying to kill is too dangerous. It wouldn't be worth it if it broke your ribs after all.
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>>1034526

Holy shit, not one miss once I added up all the variables.
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>>1034545
Did Garret just proved that he is best boy? Did he just gun down 4 raptors in a bath of bullets?
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>>1034545
?????
How bad is it?
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>>1034533
>>1034541
Depends on the animal.
>>1034537
Dinosaurs were reckoned to be very intelligent for reptiles. Not like dog or crow smart but still pretty good.
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>>1034545
Damn Garret needs to calm down.

>>1034548
Surviving dinosaurs evolved into birds though.
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The raptors, though, don't seem to care. They're not running the way they should at the loud noise, although they turn their heads towards it and bark questioningly. You try to get them the way you got the male, but it isn't working. As their comrades approach, the raptors play defensively, snapping at you but not committing to an attack, and avoiding your own blows. You're pretty sure they can see better than you in the dark, and your night-vision goggles don't help, they tend to blur the outlines of whatever you're looking at.

A third raptor leaps out from the underbrush, and you have just enough time to spot a tiny red dot shining on its cheek before its entire head explodes in a shower of gore. Then another shot, and another shot. All told, the gun rings out eight times, and not once do you not hear it accompanied by the sound of snapping bones, popping viscera, and outraged quorks from the raptors. The two you're fighting can't modify their strategy in time to stop you, and after the back-and-forth with them playing hard to get, you're finally starting to get their range. One opens its mouth to bite you, and the Duchess' old sword cuts straight into the join of upper and lower jaws, taking off the top half of its skull. The second, you hit so hard with a vertical slash that it cuts through the head, into the neck, and through the ribcage, emptying the raptor's guts onto the forest floor when your blade finally emerges between its legs. The blood is black in the moonlight, making your sword look as though it's been dipped in tar.

Garret comes charging in through the trees, rifle in hand, “Amos! Is it the insur-great Jove on Olympus what happened here?” He stands, shocked, the three girls running up behind him with their weapons in hand, “I heard gunfire and came as quick as I could. Sorry, I couldn't get a good angle for a shot, I couldn't even see what was happening.”

“Someone could.” You look up, through a break in the trees, to where a flint cliffside rears over the opposite wall of the valley. Your PC rings, and without thinking, you answer it.

“Lieutenant, sir, regulations dictate commanding officers must NOT pursue hostiles unaccompanied. Please bear this in mind for the future, sir.”

[Continued]
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>>1034552
oh godammit, well guess keith actually can snipe worth a damn
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>>1034551
There is millions of years between them turning from lizards to birds. They most likely weren't as smart as birds at the time. Still better than average though.
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>>1034552
okay, bitch nigga got some skill
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>>1034552
..Holy shit Jesus. You actually prove to be useful! So... who wants to have some Raptor ribs?
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>>1034556
These ones were probably Greenman-made, from the time when Qul'ri was terraformed, so we can't be certain on thei mental capabilities without more scientific evidence.

>>1034552
Well... I wasn't expecting this...
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>>1034552
Even a blind squirrel will eventually find a nut
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>>1034562
I vote for Dino-dinner, who else wants some raptor ribs?
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>>1034566
>these
>made by greenmen
If they were I imagine they would be much bigger or stronger or packing some much nastier weaponry.
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>>1034552
"You know what, I'll keep that in mind."

It's not often he has a point, so we might as well listen when he does.
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>>1034552
"Thanks. I'll keep that in mind in the future. That was some great shooting."
give the kid credit when he does a good job. give him hell when he fucks up or acts like an insufferable brat
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>>1034562
Also, it just occured to me; Jesus scored 4 clean shots of raptors in the middle of the night from far away. He could be famous for that. He IS Raptor Jesus!
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>>1034552
THIS:>>1034579 and this >>1034583

>>1034578
Wong said that the greenman were the ones responsible for creating new forms of life and with an great participation in the terraforming process as they were almost the only ones with total knowledge and control about the whole spectrum and the technology involved on this, so its isn't a strech to believe that they probably created this beings... And IMHO, because of artistic purpourses and preferences... Who wouldn't create raptors if they got the chance?
I can't really blame them for that.
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“Ensign Young?” You question.

“Yes sir.” He replies crisply, with just a hint of satisfaction.

“Thank you, that was some excellent marksmanship. I'll be sure to keep your advice in mind.” You reply.

“Sir, the regulations are there for a reason, it's...” His voice trails off, “Wait a minute, sir, could you please repeat that? I think there was a problem with my PC.”

“I said thank you, good shooting, and I'll be sure to keep your advice in mind for the future. You're right.” You repeat.

“Well.” He sounds stunned, “I...I mean, you're welcome, sir.”

“What are you doing out here?” You inquire. The girls and Garret are using the flashlight function of their PCs to examine the

“Lieutenant McAllister told me to follow you, sir. Lately, he's been doing his best to help me become a better pilot. Anyway, he seemed to think it would be a bad idea for me to be on the ship in the near future, for some reason. I was instructed to accompany you for the time being and learn from your example, sir.” He hesitates, then adds, “Recent events have...made me rethink some things. I guess when you spend your life in a small pond, you start to think of yourself as a bigger fish than you really are. I've made some mistakes, but thankfully the Lord has seen fit to give me some clarity.”

“That's, uh, that's good.” You note, not really sure how his religion fits into this.

“My Warmouth is situated a little ways down the valley, sir, at the top of the cliff. I was trying to decide whether to announce myself or whether it would be a nuisance to you when my thermal scope detected the ambush you were walking into. You did know there were Qu'liri Raptors in this region, right? It was mentioned in the datafile for this planet. You did read it, didn't you, sir?” He sounds just a little bit reproachful.

“Mmm.” You grunt noncommittally.

[Continued]
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>>1034603
..Shit, Jesus is growing as a person and is starting to understand his flaws. This can only mean trouble for us all.
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>>1034591
>Wong said that the greenman were the ones responsible for creating new forms of life and with an great participation in the terraforming process as they were almost the only ones with total knowledge and control about the whole spectrum and the technology involved on this, so its isn't a stretch to believe that they probably created this beings.

Greenman didn't create the Cat people. And gene splicing was prolific through the CSS before the Great Sidereal War.
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>>1034613
But they created the wildlife and eco-systems in many planets if I'm not mistaken and remembering things well... Why would the raptor be included after this just to screw things up? and I wasn't speaking about the cat people.
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>>1034620
Could be natural.
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>>1034621
Got a point. The thing we are assuming is that all planets colonized were remade through terraforming efforts. I would not be surprised that in the vast gulf of space there were some planets with some native fauna.
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>>1034629
Never mind its fucking greenmen.
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>Jesus being taught by Kotomine

[REJOICING INTENSIFIES]
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“Hey, Amos, there's something wrong with this one.” Garret is examining the one you decapitated first, the big white male. Under the glow of Garret's light, you can see that its crest and tailfeathers are a vivid orange, if it hadn't tried to kill you it would be a beautiful animal. Mostly. He gets out a knife, and scrapes away the feathers from the back of its neck, “I noticed the blood had these weird fibers in it, and look at this.”

You peer over his shoulder. You can see thick, cream-colored veins protruding from the animal's skin, all down the back of its neck following the spine, and slender, fleshy stalks sticking out of the flesh like fine hairs or... “Moss?” You question.

He nods, “It looks like it, or some kind of fungus anyway. Cordyceps, maybe? Except, that's normally confined to arthropods...”

You talk into your PC, “Ensign, did that datafile say anything about parasitic moss or some kind of plant-based skin disease?” Thinking about it, it's strange. That lone raptor approaching, staking out your campsite, only retreating when discovered rather than the group pouncing on you. Something about it isn't right, even ignoring the fact that you'd never expect predators to approach a campfire in the first place. Carnivores can be even more cagey than their prey, and most of the smart ones learn quickly that where there are humans there are guns. On top of that these look well-fed, certainly not desperate enough to try going after soldiers.

“No sir? I don't think anything like that exists.” He sounds absolutely confident, and a bit smug that you're relying on him, “I thoroughly checked the section on local diseases, just to be sure the standard immunizations I received were enough. Ah, if it's not too much trouble...could you save one of those for me? I forgot to bring meal bars, Lieutenant McAllister made it seem very urgent that I leave the ship, and given the General's recent...mood...I agreed with him, and skipped my usual pre-flight supply check. I'm told raptor tastes a lot like chicken if you bread it and fry it.”

You shake your head, although he can't see it, “I don't think you want to eat any of these, Ensign. I've got some spare food, we won't let you starve. Keep a weather eye out for any more raptors, and come join us.”
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>>1034620
>>1034621
>>1034631


The raptors are a well-established part of the Qu'liri ecosystem, actually. They're in the datafile for the planet and everything.

If you're asking whether humans or Green Men designed them...does it matter? It was the work of the CUSS pre-war, which means it could have been either or both.
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>>1034636
... I don't like this. Seems to be a wild version of the spores and evolved into this sort of thing. >Aside from maybe a sample, this should..
thick, cream-colored veins protruding from the animal's skin
..Is it Mandragora cream colored?
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I can hear everybody googling at once.
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>>1034643
It's not wild spores. It's probably one of the Greenman recon tech that is being reused by Avalonians.
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>>1034636
>>1034643
My mother is a biologist, and I'm certain that this is a mind control fungus that normally can only affect arthropods... And judging by his pattern... This is greenman tech, and this one was remote controlled by some Avalonian noble into doing this, if its not automatic.
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>>1034649
I wouldn't think so, cordyceps is a pretty famous thing.
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>>1034654
Its certainly in enough video games by this point.
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>>1034636
>Hey, Garret, isn't this that mind control fungus? I think that we may have been spotted by the enemy...
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>>1034651
Spores isn't what I am thinking about now. If that stuff is connected to the flesh through the nervous system, it reminds me of something else. Tell me, what was the Mandrake originally based off of? What was that talk of 'a dark truth buried in the earth' the Paladin said?
Here is my guess. There likely was a greenman bioframe on this planet, but rather than doing what the green lady did, it was left to rot. Herbs ate the flesh, became infected, then carnivores ate the flesh. It would explain the increased intelligence if this is like a purer mandrake since those are 'smart dog' levels of intelligent.
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>>1034653

By the way, I know you've been keeping track, do you have a list of the tourney mecha that only has the ONE entry per person they're using? I ask because earlier someone mentioned they'd submitted multiple ones, and I can't put together brackets without knowing how many mecha are actually paticipating.
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>>1034658
There is also another possibility.
It has been some time since I heard my mom talk about that, but if I'm not mistaken, the biggest and probably oldest being alive in this planet isn't even a tree... Its just this giant fungus conglomerate that lives "buried" under a florest... And Yes, I'm talking about real life.
It gets more scary, as it can form this great network of quimical reactions with other fungus and plants and exchange information with them about their surroudings and other biological factors...

The thing we are dealing with here in Quil'r could just be a much more complex and inteligent form of this, a giant and smart fungus mounstruosity that spreads under the earth through an entire continent...
And this raptor could just be one of its minions.
>>1034660
Don't worry, my Tourney list had that already checked, and I was even planning on putting the other miscellaneous mech people created in a sub-category if you wanted to use them as canonfodder for our main mechs in the initial rounds...
And I'm quite certain that no one had lied to me about it, and I even removed the Goldentail for using it in the secondary category when Myrm-senpai told me that it were her secondary mech.
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>>1034636
...This is making my head scream greenmen. Greenmen basically had cordyceps for humans, what with the sporing. This is troublesome.

Regular cordyceps would involve the bug about to bud to go to some high point to, well, spread more of the stuff. And if it can infect these guys, the jump might be possible to human. Best burn the bodies, from a distance.
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>>1034699
Just to be sure, you got the version of mine earlier after I fixed the CP calculation on the gun and shield, right?
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So how about that space napalm?
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>>1034709
And you are....?
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>>1034714
Oh sorry, I made Rolling Thunder.
I forget not everyone tracks ID color like I do.
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>>1034717
To be fair you usually see repetitive colors, too.
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>>1034714

>>1032010
Maybe I should actually just link the post. And stop drinking.
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Tomorrow concludes the thread, I'm extending the deadline to the next thread too. I don't know how long tomorrow will be, but after that we'll take a break until Monday, probably.
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>>1034717
Nah, I do that too sometimes... But Yesterday I was very sleepy and started to rush across the thread as I got here after the session ended and wanted to read it before going to sleep...

...And I need to update the pastebin to put you in, and fix the Chimaera, but before that, let me check both of your numbers.
Oh, there is also the bird guy, I should work on that too...

Also, if you guys want me to change something else, please just tell me, here is the link:http://pastebin.com/pZtRmbWS

(Also, Chimaera anon, I'm very sorry for keeping forgetting about your robot again and again.... Seriously, I'm sorry.)
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>>1034726
Thanks for running Wong, you're the best, man.
Please don't leave us without MSPQ for more than a week again, I beg you! P-Please, have mercy on us!
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>>1034721
Don't need to stop drinking anon, just don't go too far with it.
Wasn't it you that had a problem with your boss? Or was it Buddy-Anon?
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>>1034740
Yeah, it was me. Rumors say he might be getting canned for the shitty schedule he came up with though. I can only hope.
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>>1034726
Alright. Will be interesting to see how you set up the brackets. Lots of interesting fight set ups are possible.
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>>1034740
Wait, before I go to bed I forgot. The MV is wrong in the post, it should be -4 since it's a mechatank.
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>>1034742
I hope that everything goes well for you anon, it's sadly to see you suffer because of this sort of thing...
Do you think that your schedule will let you be here for the jam without problems? It could be worrisome if you got late for a fight or something.
>>1034755
Okay, good night man, and sweet dreams to you!
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>>1034734

At worst, I might have to take a while off sometime this spring when my seasonal migraines hit because I can't even look at a screen when I'm going through those because it includes severe pain when looking into anything lit up from within. The good news is, last year they were mild and happened at the wrong time, just before winter instead of just after it, and we're already past that point. If I get them this year, I'll be getting them late. They persist for an agonizing week or two, then go away.
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>>1034778
Oh, I'm sorry for migraines Wong, that must be painfull... Is this really a normal thing? Did you already went to see a doctor about that?

Also... Do you see any use for the miscellaneous secondary mechs created by our anons? I was pondering if they will ever see use in this game...

Huh, about the mech concepts for the Tourney, what do you think of them? No need to talk about it if you don't wanna, but it could be nice to see what you think about their concepts and the way they went with it. ^^
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>>1034655
>in enough video games
>One Game.
Anon pls.
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>>1034791

Point by point.

It's caused by the abrupt pressure changes of the seasonal shift, I'm pretty sure. I've met other people with the same symptoms, but haven't brought it up with my doctor yet.

Some of them, yes, but I'm tired and grumpy about stuff I read on the news (which sucks because I was in a great mood during the game).

I think most of them work pretty well. Some were built too much like protagonists or POV characters in their own right rather than colorful side characters, but most of those I think I managed to tweak into shape. I think it's interesting how they ended up balancing out. Some I honestly like a lot more than others, I won't say which, but one I'd like to directly compliment is the Chimera. I quite like it, and while I've mentioned before other tourney mecha I like I don't think the Chimera got mentioned before.
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>>1030907
Okay, you first.

Your frame, armor and options are ok, without any problems... Excluding the oddity of not having a torso storage, but that is okay.

Your A.R.C. is priced wrong, and can't even guess from where you picked the 25m extra in your range, it tru stats should be:

>[Handheld]A.R.C. Cannon: Range: 500m, WA+2, 12K (1K in structure), Ammo 10, 2 Reloads, 34.9 CP, 9.3 Spaces, 1.7 tons
And that is not including the extra 4.8CP and 2.4 tons of the Reloads, that you also have to account for.

Good news is that your beam sword only costs 4CP if that 5K is already accounting for the +1 damage bonus of the medium arms, and that your shield and phalanxs are okay... But that will result in your thursters costing 15CP, your weight being 40.8 and in your final CP being 143.5CP, and that is before accounting for the weight reduction.

I'm sorry, I really should have checked this before, but I'll be glad to help you with any changes you want to make to your mech if you want my help.
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>>1034831
Hm... You maybe should at least mention it in the next time you see one, maybe a doctor could suggest something to at least help with that.

I'm happy to hear it... And sad about the news stuff, this year will probably be another chaotic one, for good or bad.

No need to pick favorites, don't worry, I'm just curious about your ideas for how to implement them on this universe, and what impression you think that they would give in game, in comparison to more common or at least more normal mechs... But about the characters, I can't wait to see how they are going to interact with each other, as they are a diverse (and somewhat crazy) bunch.
And I would love to see Akai getting on the nerves of the most grumpy ones just for fun...
Also... What does POV means?
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>>1034868
"point of view".
A character that we as the whole audience see out the eyes of and control. Normally its Roarke, currently its Amos, and we had short interludes as other characters as well.
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ITT: Tourney Mechs and their overrated EMWs.
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>>1034878
Beams are for fags, Projectiles 4lyfe
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>>1034878
>>1034905
>Not using your own fists.
Degeneracy.
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>>1034905
Have fun with all those ammo calculations.
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>>1034967
Haha! jokes on you, my gun has TWO magazines!
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>>1034923
fist is love fist is life
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>>1034868
Hey Brazillia. Sorry i missed you last night, I fell asleep before you posted. POV means Pojnt Of View, meaning the characters having more story importance than Monsiuer Wong intended.
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>>1035015
This may not make sense. I am operating on two hours of sleep
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>>1034967
I have way more trouble with figuring out how to stat missiles than ammo.
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>>1034843
I think that I see where you're getting that conception from. The A.R.C. Cannon is a beam gun with the rnage Modifier of 75%. I'd came to the conclusion pretty early on that solid projectiles were ridiculously expensive and heavy with no real way to counter that, but that Beam weapons had all these modifiers to mess around with. Did I fuck up by doing that? I'd greatly appreciate any help you could give me.
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>>1034810

One which, ironically, I didn't know anything about until I googled to make sure I had the right fungus.
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>>1035002
no fist no life

>>1035015
>>1035017
There is no need to be sorry fo that anon, thats okay, and don't worry, you're not the only one who talks here without having much sleep...
And thanks for the explanation gentleanon, and for you too >>1034873 friend.

>>1035115
That may explain some things, so lets me review that again... And also, please write that somewhere next time, as clip-fed beam guns can easily be confused with normal projectiles because they both have ammo.
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>>1035294
What are the rules on multiple loadouts for a mecha. I see that some do have multiple possible setups.
>>1034729
>http://pastebin.com/pZtRmbWS
The Valkyrie is seriously outdated. The pastebin is here.
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>>1035115
>http://pastebin.com/R0W2jFgC
I praise you anon, crongrats, your mech is okay to go, the only thing thats irregular with it is the fact that the Thursters should cost 15CP(because of the weight of the booster pack), and that the beam sword costs 4CP instead of 4,5CP.

So that should leave the Chimera as an 139.9CP mech with 39.2 tons of weight.

But... wasn't its concept that it was a combination of different mecha parts from a junkyard? So where did you got an 12K Beam Weapon from? Thats S-Sliger level of damage!

>>1035376
Okay, fixing that now.
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>>1035376
Wait, could you please send the Valkyrie pastebin again? You sent the Jam Gallery pastebin instead.
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>>1035462
http://pastebin.com/LkDJjdpF
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wait, are we reposting our space jam mechs? mine hadn't gotten in yet iirc... well I think I'll tune it up one last time before submitting it for inspection.
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Fixed up the pastebin, so now all of the different versions of the CROWE are right next to each other.

I'm extremely tempted to try some last minute tinkering, but decided to have trust in the current version.
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so... If I have an inter-servo linkage on a mechs legs and the legs can both kick or shoot beam sweepers, does the inter servo linkage only apply to the kicks or beam sweepers or both?
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>>1035534
only to the one. You would need separate links for your melee and ranged.
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>>1035545
k, kicking with both legs at once would be a bit weird so i'll just link the ranged systems.
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>>1035552
Worth noting that you actually can't link different types of weapons together. Technically the Duke's link between his EMW beam sword and his physical blade is actually not RAW legal.
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>>1035568
Nah... Its legal, because both of them are melee, the problem resides more in ranged x melee cases.
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>>1034763
I'm posting from my phone now, but it'll be fine. I'm assuming Wong's going to roll for them since not everyone can always be here.

It'll be like letting a child out into the world. Except that child followed a religion I've never met, is probably older than I am and pilots a Mobile Armor that's larger than some apartment buildings (if I understand the different sizes of mecha in Wong's setting correctly.)
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>>1035643
ATM page 13 states that they need to be from the same category such as EMW's or beam weapons.
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http://pastebin.com/4eGrhtyW
Ok this should be the finalized version of my space jam mech.
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>>1035663
Recheck your talons. A 5k melee weapon takes 2.5 tons, not 1.5
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>>1035704
uh, I just took those talons from the corebooks leg servo extremity list, heres a screen of it.
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>>1035759
Oh right, You might want to ask if that's legal, since that's one of the few core book weapons that you can't make with the ATM
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>>1035807
does it use weapon building rules if its a foot?
ah well I'll ask later when Wong or BRanon are around.
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>>1035807
>>1035824
Wait, I think I know what its doing, the base damage of a default foot which is assumed to be part of the leg servo is 2K, so they added that to a 3K talon weapon for the foot talon in that listing.
so the talon itself is 3k but the foot its attached to is another 2k.
Whether thats legal or not I don't know.
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So Has anyone made Bill Murray as a pilot yet for space jam?
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>>1035873
last I checked no.
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>>1035844
It's due to kicks. Kicks actually do a fair ammount of damage, they are just inaccurate as hell.
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so...
when we do get a factory up an running what will it produce?
good touny mecha or ships?
because i kinda want ships that are like our personal on except instead of 3 pair of wings it's only two and maby less shield.
is it even possible to increase the guns on the rhine hawk at all? because give it bigger guns and it goes from super fast mecha carrier to one man army pretty damn fast if we can.
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>>1036757
Mechs would likely be the best choice right now. A thing to consider is that the time to make a ship would be dramatically more than the mechs used to fill it. Even upgrades to the rhinehawk took a good while. Second, prototype ships take even longer, same with prototype machines since you are breaking new ground. With how tight we are for actual mecha, making them first is more important. We can get ships through old fashion piracy.
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>>1036757
Mecha. If we were going to be producing ships I would like some more lighter warships.
>>1034636
Side note: but while Jesus is listening to us, we should reccomend that he install a laser antimissle system for his next upgrade. He doesn't have the statline to use a shield, and a WA+3, 3 kill antimissle system would make him nearly immune to missile attacks at a cost of 9cp.
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>>1035376

Basically, don't be obnoxious with it. If you have a different loadout for every opposing mech, there will probably be consequences. Three or four, I wouldn't bat an eye at.
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>>1035995

Speaking of kicks, I'm thinking of changing Fatima's upgrade to a straight +100mpt speed increase for the Kaiser, because the Kaiser's kicks already do a ton of damage.
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>>1036871
We don't actually hit with them very often though. Notice how our Starwind dropkick is frequently dodged? Its hitting at a -4 compared to our fists. Also, Beam shields are something we're pretty bad against, so the disrupter property is pretty useful. Even if I'd personally want a disrupter bit or two.
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>>1036852
>Three or four, I wouldn't bat an eye at.

Oh good. The Myrmidon has three, but they're more generalist.
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>>1036818
>Not wanting to see him getting missile spammed by 140CP tourney mechs in the last battle with all side-protagonists and secondary characters.
Anon, please, don't sour my fun!

>>1036852
Uhhhh... I Have 3 or 4 Missile Loadouts for the Walkure, each of them with a different anime reference to it...Is that a problem?
I was also planning on giving it a pair of alternate "2K and WA+2" hands like dutch senpai... And maybe an alternate head missile with blast... Would that be too much?
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>>1036852
>Three or four, I wouldn't bat an eye at
If only I was good enough for that.

Also, I know you've said you want the tourney people to be colorful side characters, but I said mine wanted to make my tank/mobile armor thing fly. Do I need to make a version of that or is it going to stay as a background thing?
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>>1036898
seeker leg upgrades? say the big zam has specialized software that allows it to accurately flay anything that comes from the underside and then adapted for starwind use.
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>>1036818
Reactive shields are something he can use since they require no roll. As for the Rhinehawk, I actually see it more as a pretty sturdy command ship. To get the next level of guns for both of ours we may have to commit fully to it and it would make our ship huge. Or, we could try for something different. Extra bays, extra delux CIWS, more shields. With artillery platforms like that tank on the wings, and a constant rain of CWIS fire, it'd be pretty brutal for combat.
>>1036852
Ah, may have to pick a form to step away from. Probably range for the F-type. No way am I giving up manly and the longer range of a 7 kill beam gun would help with the hit and run.
>>1036871
I would also say stick to disruptor. Not sure how, but I have a few ideas for upgrades to make our feet pretty deadly in their own right and reactive shields are our bane right now.
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It's a damned good thing your girlfriend is a botanist as well as a mech designer. You collect a sample, being fastidiously careful not to touch it with your bare hands, just in case. Remembering the horror stories you've heard about the War, you also insist that everyone get a full medical exam the moment you get back to Innsmouth. After all, what if this thing was capable of putting off spores? Then, wearing gas masks, you and Garret burn the bodies. All of them. Keith is confident he didn't miss any of the pack, but you're aware there might be more, so this time you take turns keeping watch until sunrise, then you're off again.

Innsmouth isn't much different than it was when you left it, although you can see as you fly overhead that the inside of the glass-tower hotel Irina requisitioned has been gutted. The curvature of the glass makes it impossible to see what's inside, but considering that the Delphinius and Bufo are mostly done, you can't imagine the Squilla has much longer to wait for its grand debut. You can't wait to see it! In your mind, it's a lot like the Black Ogre with a more Bahamutcorp look to it, more curving lines and smooth surfaces and pastel colors.

“Lieutenant Amos A. Wedge.” You respond when challenged by the Qu'liri Guard forces, “Requesting permission to land in the mechbay of the JS Cicero.”

“Number and designation of mecha?” The bored-sounding ATC asks. You think it's a bit of a silly question, he should be well aware of how many you have and you're clearly in formation.

“Six. S-Delphinius, S-Bufo, three Betta MPs, and a Warmouth.” You reply, again thinking that it's a bit of a silly question. It's not unkind to doubt that the ATC has never seen a Betta MP before. Heck, you hadn't seen one until you were called to Celephais.

There's a sound of clicking keys, probably the native looking up the mecha in question to be sure that's really you he's seeing, then a confused mrowl from the Air Traffic Controller, “Say that second one again?”

“S-Bufo.” You respond patiently, “B U F O. Do you need any of the others?” You're not annoyed, he's just doing his job.

“S...Bufo...” There's a pause, “Lieutenant, are you sure you have that right? I'm not seeing an S-Bufo listed anywhere. Is it one of your SOUL machines?”

“Maybe they haven't added it to the database yet? Sometimes those things take forever to update.” Lara asks.

Lyra groans, “What kind of lazy jerk wouldn't upload the stats for all the mecha as soon as they have them?”

“M-hmm.” Lara agrees.

What kind of lazy jerk, indeed.

“Garret, are you sure she didn't have it listed as the...what was the original name? Oh, right, I remember. Tower, try S-Alpheidae.”

More clicking of keys, “Nope. Nothing here.”

[Continued]
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「ADF-01 Lightning」

Medium Striker Torso: C/S/K 8, 4 tons
Medium Striker Head: C/S/K 4, 2 tons
HeavyStriker L. Arm: C/S/K 6, 3 tons
Left Hand: 2 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Heavy Striker R. Arm: C/S/K 6, 3 tons
Right Hand: 2 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Medium Striker L. Leg: C/S/K 5, 2.5 tons
Medium Striker R. Leg: C/S/K 5, 2.5 tons

Base Frame Weight: 18 tons
Base Frame Cost: 38 CP

Armor: Medium Striker (4 SP, 4 CP, 2.0 tons) on all locations (Total: 24 CP, 12 tons)

Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 CP, 2 Spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton

Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Liftwire (0.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP), Katz Deluxe Anti-Theft Codelock (0.2 CP)
Armaments:
'Kusanagi' (Handheld Two-Handed Nodachi): WA +1, 11K, Quick, AP, 33 CP, 12 Spaces, 5.5 tons (SE: +10.5 CP)
(Optional) Beam Magnum Rifle: WA +3, 11K, Range 650m, Clip-Fed (5 shots per clip), 23.8 CP, 6 Spaces, 3 tons (SE: +9 CP)(3 clips, +3 CP)(WE: +5 CP)
(Optional) 'Ashura' (Handheld Katana): WA +1. 5K, 4 CP, 4 Spaces, 2.5 tons

Thrusters & Speed ('Kusanagi'): 5 per leg, 4 per arm, 3 in the torso. Moves 800m per turn in flight or can run 250m, 22.5 CP

Total Weight: 37.5 tons
Total Cost: 136.7 CP ('Kusanagi') / 138 CP ('Beam Magnum Rifle'+'Ashura')

Pilot: James McClintock
Bio [Updated]: Underground tourney mech pilot. Boozehound. Hates Martians and authority figures in general. Wants to prove he's the best mech pilot in the galaxy.

Reposting the Lightning. Also someone to double-check cuz I'm at work.
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>>1037029
>“What kind of lazy jerk wouldn't upload the stats for all the mecha as soon as they have them?”
>What kind of lazy jerk, indeed.

Wong pls.
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>>1037029
make sure to call in a decontam crew to clean up the mechs and scan us down since theres a chance of spores in the air from our cockpits or clinging to the outside of mechs.
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>>1037061
>>1037029
....
Okay... I will upload faster...
...But I got to tell you that the problem resides in my paranoia that makes me double-check everyone of them before putting them on the pastebin...
and talking about this...
>>1035463
Hey, your missile weight is wrong, it should be 0.5 for the smokes and 1 ton for the 10K ones... That should leave you with 37.5tons of weight reducing the price of your thursters to 15CP, and leaving you at 125,7CP... There is also the fact that there is only 8 Spaces in your torso and Sensors+Cockpit+Processors+Imagers ends up occupying 9 Spaces, but you could use the remaining CP to slim the shield even more.
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>>1037109
Irina the troll mechanic.
Lesson of the day, never piss off the Mechanic working on your mech,
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>>1037109
IRINA YOU DECEIVED ME!
And that is when we cut to Irina wearing shades saying he should blame the shit taste he was borne under.
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>>1037122
>Sensors+Cockpit+Processors+Imagers ends up occupying 9 Spaces, but you could use the remaining CP to slim the shield even more.
You missed the space efficiency I added to the image processors. Also just modified the other two forms for the tourney.
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You scratch your head, “Any way you can check by date added? I'm in the system, right, and I can send you the pilot's credentials.”

“Oh, you're clear, you've all broadcast the right codes. Hold on, maybe I can find it by the pilot. What's his or her name?” The ATC doesn't sound like he's trying to be a bureaucratic obstacle, he's just doing his job, and a trio of Bluegills is already en route to escort you in.

“Ensign Garret Luxol.” Garret replies, “I don't get it, I saw her change the name when I complained and.

“Huh, where's the S-Pyxicephalus? That's what he's listed as piloting.” The ATC sounds a little confused.

“The what!?” Garret sputters, “Pixy what!?”

“It says right here, S-Pyxicephalus Ranged Assault Mech.”

“Heh, Pixie.” Keith snickers.

“I've never heard of it.” You state flatly, “It must be a mistake.”

The ATC doesn't sound convinced, “Big, green, kinda looks like a frog...hey, what are you playing at? The Bluegill squads confirmed it's right there with you.”

“I think there must have been a mixup with the names.” You state, nonplussed.

“PIXYWHAT!?” Garret wails.

“It's a little too late for your mech to look heroic anyway. I mean, purple and green? What were you thinking? Even with a silly name and an ungainly machine, at least you have plenty of beam cannons.” Keith tries to comfort him, you think.

[Continued]
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>>1037126
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>>1037156
Hands let you hold as many spaces as your arms have.
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>>1037159
Oh wait yeah. I thought it was mounted.

Guess I'm retarded. Can you even mount melee weapons? What's wrong with me?
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>>1037162
Yup, they can be put into limbs. Technically hands are melee weapons, after all.
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>>1037139
Irina just made my top girls list
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>>1037047
I'll fix my earlier retard moment with the sword.

tl:dr List space efficiency, not the cost and make sure to list total cost. Listing base cost after the total is just easier to understand imo, you don't have to.


>>1037170
And i forgot about Sam's pile bunkers. They are in her mech's arms, right? Haven't looked at the S-Betta recently.
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“I can change it, right?” Garret asks.

You think for a moment, “Are you the Butcher?”

“Well, no, at least not yet, but I sure feel like some butchery right now.” Garret replies.

“Are you some kind of secret special military asset, and I mean besides your bloodline?” Keith inquires.

“Hey, I'm a good pilot in my own right, you bet your ass I'm special.” Garret huffs.

Keith makes a noncommittal noise.

“I think you might be stuck with Pyxicephalus.” You gravely state, totally not because changing it would put Irina in a grumpy mood and you wouldn't get laid. You're messaging her about what you found, and while she's worried and intrigued she's also sending you pictures of herself. Wearing nothing but one of your spare uniform shirts you left on the Cicero by accident. You've got more important things on your mind than Garret.

“Damn it all!” Garret wails.

“Technically you all should have had a bipartisan team from both megacorporations assembling your mech and been given a party-neutral name decided by the upper brass in keeping with the new tradition of naming SOUL mecha.” Keith remarks waspishly, “Like my S-Slinger.”

“That name is stupid. You're stupid. This is stupid.” Garret complains.

“At least it wasn't Pyxi.” Keith responds smugly.

Jovedamned dedicated marksmen always trying to fight over whose cannon is bigger. They bicker about it all through the medical exam and decontamination procedures.

[Continued]
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>>1037205
Man, now I know why he wanted to use V2. Being stuck with Pixy while your budies have names like Garm or Merlin Squad does not help the ego.
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>>1037138
Wong banned spaced efficiency on sensors and cockpits, so I don't know if you can use it on stat enhancers too... What is something that would be a problem for me too.

Also... Isn't this the +2 Tech and 5CP version of the processors?Where is the Space effiency on it?
>>1037139
Wong, could you hel us with this problem?
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>>1037230
Think he stated that sort of stuff waits until after the thread when it involves him. We'll need to figure it out ourselves.
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>>1037230
>Also... Isn't this the +2 Tech and 5CP version of the processors?Where is the Space efficiency on it?
Sorry, on the shadow imager. Whatever, I can just put it on the shield
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>>1037230

It's only removing one space, isn't it? Honestly, I'm fine with that, but I'm biased because I have a fondness for the Valkyrie in part because it's exactly the kind of mech I wanted out of the tourney. Aesthetic, visually interesting, uses systems and weapons I like, doesn't introduce new plot elements, and has existing ties to the plot. That doesn't mean I like the other mecha any less, but I'm quite fond of Kathrine's ride.
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>>1037242

Weird, I'm not seeing a shield on there.
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>>1037205
>Pyxi
someone say Pixy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp41XvdB_o4
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>>1037268
>Torso Mounted "Wings of Salvation" active shield system: DA -2, SP 9, 15.5 CP, 3 Spaces, 4.5 tons
Its got shields that look like wings for visual purposes. I originally had separate arm mounted ones, but that didn't work math wise, so a switched it to a single torso mounted wing shield. Also added an option to swap the missiles for a fiendishly accurate antimissle system to bully Pumpkinseed 2s and Palamino 2s.
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>>1037286
Also, your Guard-loadout weapons cost 39.4 and weight 8 tons(Don't forget that you have 2 hands, not only one).
40,4CP if you put 1CP into space efficiency for your shield.
But your CP cost will be 127,2 anyway, so there is no need to worry about it.
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>>1036923
You're fine, it'll be a background detail for her... But I think that you can still make her more "flavourful" by giving some details about her personality and maybe one or two more lines of backstory if Wong is okay with it.

Also, I'm reviewing your mech next, but dinner first.
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>>1037205
Fairchild strikes back I see.
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>>1037339
Alright. I'll do that.
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>>1037205
>Pyxicephalus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyxicephalus
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>>1037339
Pilot: Mai Uaifu
Former Martian Militia Pilot. Went AWOL after her pattol ship was ambushed by pirates, killing every Militia member but her and causing her distinctive scar over her left eye. Renounced her faith afterwards, and worked as a mercenary until deciding to join the Iron Kestrels. Prefers piloting heavy fighters and bombers. Current goal is to make the Rolling Thunder into into a flying Moblile Armor.

I wish I could write. I'm much better at essays and reports.
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>>1037372
clever girl
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>>1037259
No worries. Competition just makes me want to figure out a bunch more things to do with old ideas and the Dutchman. I'll Keep on doing what I can to do the Zaku II and Doan proud.
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At last, though, it's confirmed that if any sort of spores from the fungus' fruiting bodies landed on you, they've been thoroughly killed, and you can go see Irina. She's at a workbench in the mechbay, running simulations on a small holographic display. A cursory look indicates that she's working on your vernier system, a glowing image of the S-Delphinius in flight zipping back and forth across the desk.

“Honey, I'm home.” You call out with a grin, and she spins her chair around and leaps out of it right into your arms.

“Amos!” She crows, kissing your cheek, “There's my man. How did my babies fly?”

“Delphinius is fantastic.” You tell her, “And Garret...”

“The Bufo works fine.” He stares evenly at her.

She smiles sweetly, “Bufo? I've never heard of that, although it does sound like something a certain someone was shouting after he turned down a perfectly good name and demanded I rework it to incorporate more armor because of the weight saved from switching from old-fashioned mass cannons to modernized beam weaponry. Which, incidentally, I did a fantastic job on. You're welcome, Ensign.” She radiates smug from inside the safe embrace of your arms.

“Laugh it up, blondie. Did you have to go and name it Pixie? Really?” Garret crosses his arms.

“Pyxi. Pyxicephalus, after Pyxicephalus adspersus, or the African bullfrog.” She flips her hair, somehow managing to look even more smug, “In case you're unfamiliar, most toads are terrestrial, whereas the lovely pyxicephalus is a much more water-based amphibian. We don't name things after land animals in Bahamut Corporation, it's simply not done.”

"Well, can't you make an exception?" Garret demands.

Irina smiles sweetly, putting her arms around your waist, "No."
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>>1037393

I accidentally didn't copypaste the [Continued]
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>>1037393
>Irina's face right now
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>>1037393
>"Well, can't you make an exception?" Garret demands
>Irina smiles sweetly, putting her arms around your waist, "No."
Oh god, I am laughing way to hard at that exchange
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wrong pic
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>>1037406
>>1037423
No, that works as well. Saw that shit real time and it was certainly one of the bigger real time smug moments. Shame I didn't place a bet. The odds would have given me a 8x turnabout.
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>>1037393
>TFW you give a machismo obsessed mech pilot a girly codename because he wanted a toad based mech
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>>1037437
I prefer the one where he's sipping the glass. Truly maximum smug when he did that. fun night that was
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>>1037393
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>>1037446
Been a good week for that sort of stuff considering how that 'Fake News' thing blew up in CNN and Buzzfeed's face like a frag grenade.
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>>1037446
That's what you get for overreaching by setting up shop right in front of your political opposition convention.
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>>1037286
Wait.
In fact, now there is 0.5CP without use in your mech.
Do you want to buy a Deluxe Anti-Theft Lock?
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>>1037487
You're like a salesman.
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>>1037487
pretty sure the guard version adds up. I'll check the other versions tomorrow.
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>>1037493
>Taking the risk of not buying a lock when living in a pirate colony.
Its like you're begging Akai to take your mech for a ride like Tank-senpai did!
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>>1037499
'Storm Dragons pimping your ride' is the new Detroit City strip crew. Leave for a hour and next thing you know your mech is painted with some random anime chick and all the music has been replaced with J-pop.
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>>1037452

I saw it coming almost as soon as they started using that term.
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>>1037523
They have been off their game since the election ended. Then pol pulled off that glorious move and it just cascaded from there. Managing to troll not only the msm, but the CIA too? Got to give them props for it.
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>>1037532
I don't know who's jewing who anymore. All i know is that this chaos is hilarious.
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>>1037537
I don't know why everyone's losing their shit so much. It's not like either Hilary or Trump would or could destroy the county in the 8 years max they could serve.

From the way some people on both sides have talked and are now acting, you'd think the world was doomed after Bernie lost the primary.
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>>1037519
>tfw you know that Rosita is going to scold you even more, but you need to do it anyway.
Don't worry kestrels-tomodachi! I'm sure that onee-san will love the new paintjob as Waifu-kouhai did!
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>>1037555
oH GOD MY EYES
WHY! WHY IS THAT A THING!
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>>1035370
>>1035455
My bad. As for the damage, that's gonna be a derp on my part. Would 10k be a more appropriate Damage for a beam cannon?
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>>1037555
I have a deluxe lock now, though... And how would Akai even paint it? She's basically a dwarf, and Rolling Thunder is a Mega Heavy tank. It'd be like asking one man to paint an entire high rise apartment.

Also nice trips.
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>>1037537
THIS
The karma has gone full circle, and now KEK and his followers will bring the fruits of degenaracy upon those who thought they could do anything without consequences...
The resulting chaos is hilarious to watch.
>>1037551
>you'd think the world was doomed after Bernie lost the primary.
HA!
The world was doomed since the first primate discovered how to make fire!
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Lyanna raises her hand, “I like Pyxicephalus much better than Bufo.”

Lyra giggles, Lara rolls her eyes.

“Thank you. Now, about that other...abomination...” Irina looks pointedly at Keith's Warmouth.

Ensign Young smiles hugely, “Finally, someone with sense.”

“Yes, that goes without saying. I'm me, after all. What idiot ruined a perfectly good Warmouth by tearing off its perfectly fine arms and slapping on a pair of oversized, antiquated Bucephalus models in its place? Does it even have finger articulation besides the index finger for 'twigguh discipwin'? Can its shoulders actually rotate or does it just go straight into shooting stance? I feel ill just looking at it. Those aren't even from something appropriately sized, like a Morgan II or one of the old Arabians.” Irina makes a disgusted face. Keith just stares at her in shock, seemingly at a loss for words, but Irina still has more to say, “So, you missed me and hurried home?” Completely dismissing the Ensign, Irina hugs you tight, “I missed you too, you big lug.”

“Yeah, and I also, uh...” You tell her about what happened.

When you're done, she snorts, “Typical. You did what you had to do, and if she'd ever bothered to get to know you, she'd have seen it coming. I'm glad she didn't, though. If we're talking about that dark-haired woman who hangs off the General's arm all the time I know what a vamp she is and frankly I'm a little jealous of some of her spare ballast.” Irina looks down at her chest.

You don't see anything to complain about. Yes, Cabot's is bigger, but the heart beneath isn't nearly as good. “There's nothing to be jealous of. You're perfect.”

She smiles radiantly, “No I'm not. You're perfect.”

“No, you are.” You insist.

“Pour a little more syrup on, why don't you?” Lara grumbles. Garret makes a gagging noise.

Irina gives them a look utterly devoid of caring, then smiles at you, “So, where's that sample? I understand you took some pictures with your PC, too? I don't think I need to tell anybody here that this is guaranteed to be classified and that talking about it could incite a panic, right?”

Everyone nods.

[Continued]
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>>1037566
>dubs
Calm down Brazil.
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>>1037551
Well, a thing to consider is that the election was going to decide what exactly was going to happen with about a decade or more of the Left's work in Academia, politics, and the economy. They were banking on Hilary solidify things like SOPA, TPP, and the usher in a more Globalist economy and solidifying their position for decades to come. City centers would control entire states so rurals could be ignored even though they were pissing people off massively. Then along comes Trump who sees the castle of cards being finished and just flips the table and declares the new game to be '52 pick-up'.
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>>1037551

Well, Hillary Clinton has been responsible for the utter destruction of at least a handful of countries, going back to (and she's bragged about it) when she persuaded Bill Clinton to bomb Serbia. It's why when the news acts as if Putin preferring Trump is surprising, I find it kind of odd, because it shouldn't be unusual to not want World War III. She's a notoriously bellicose warhawk.
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>>1037563
Don't worry, it isn't like this is strictly forbidden...
...But I think that it may raise some question, and maybe you should think on a explanation for that... But it could even be a S-Slinger spare gun that had some problem and ended up dumped somewhere, just for your character to find it and fix it in a working gun, even if it isn't Slinger level anymore.
>>1037564
You know nothing jon snow! Maybe she would use another mecha, maybe she would have help, maybe she would just cover it in that expensive glass-screen coating material that she has on her mech and call it a day after programing it to reapeat animu images...
But this is animu, and the sky isn't even the limit!
Also, meme magic itself has approved!
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>>1037595

More than a decade. If you want proof, look at the schedule of movies that have come out since. Hollywood 100% expected a Clinton presidency and was planning to pave the way for what she wanted to do, culturally, through cinema. It's also why there's such monolithic and strenuous efforts at resistance by celebrities, and why they keep switching out the ones they show trying to resist Trump, to avoid having it associated with individuals and rather with the industry as a whole being opposed to him.

Unless you really thought Miss Sloane or Hidden Figures was going to make money and not serve as propaganda.
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>>1037619
Actually, that could be a good thing since it would help me make up for my terrible writing skills. "Habitually makes fun of Akai for her stature" would add flavor to Uaifu I can't.

Also, since Wong just talked about tits, "for her stature and washboard chest" could be good too since she's based of Megumin.

>>1037631
Would that be OK Wong?
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>>1037564
>>1037619
heed her warning! that little girl can climb like a spider monkey. she will have waifus and anime girls all over your mech before you get back from lunch!
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>Minna's ass

I shouldn't be laughing this hard. Why can't we doll up all the vehicles fighting ISIS like this? I'm sure it would trigger them somehow.
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she talked me into spending a bunch on design and decor, and I love her for it. i'm going to see if i can get my GM to allow me to use that part of the ATM when we start our game next week.
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>>1037631
Good points. Media and Hollywood have been showing decay for quite some time, even before the Bush Era. Censorship has been getting worse and worse and ideas and innovations have been limited deeply. NAFTA had been painful for everyone aside the rich, and the hard push for diversity did not help. Still, she expanded too hard, too far, and too fast. She didn't solidify control and it bit her in the end. Likewise, she was in no way shape or form capable of handling meme warfare or the net and her old tactics of social justice were already showing signs of failure two years back. She got too greedy and rather than trying for a young puppet who was clean, she tried to gain control directly.
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“Ma'am, what about the danger to the civilians?” Keith asks. Normally you'd want to smack him, but he actually has a point.

She considers it for a moment, “Obviously, we'll be passing this information up the chain of command. I expect PSAs from the brass warning about potential Avalonian biological weapons and urging the citizens to stay alert. Until then, we watch and wait. Don't let Lin-Lin eat any fish infected with this...whatever it is.”

“Where is she, by the way?” Garret asks.

Irina smiles, “I knew you'd ask. She's out for lunch, I expect she'll be back soon.”

You give her the sample, and she frowns, “Curious.”

“Is it...the spores?” Of course fungi in general have spores, but everyone knows what you mean.

She shakes her head, “Not the kind you're thinking of, those didn't have physical symptoms or extrude fruiting bodies. They were engineered to be as unobtrusive as possible, in fact they didn't parasitize at all. Many fungi have deleterious effects when breathed in, the Green Men just chose an effect that served their purposes. This is something else. I don't want to say anything I'll have to take back right now, let me run some tests once we're done with today's work.”

“I noticed you're in a good mood. Is it just because you're happy to see me, or have you had some kind of breakthrough?” You ask.

She chuckles, “Oho, if you must know, today is the first field test for the S-Squilla. Just turning the key in the ignition, so to speak, nothing fancy...but it's a good feeling. A lot of people have worked very, very hard on this project, and it's nice to see your effort pay off for once.” She smiles wryly, then echoes herself, “'For once'...no, that's the wrong thing to say. 'Again' is more accurate.” She kisses your lips, “Sometimes I just have trouble believing how much you've turned my luck around, Amos darling.”

“Love is a wonderful thing.” Keith remarks.

Lara pretends to retch into a nearby waste receptacle.

“Anyway, you're all welcome to come along. Or not. I'd be perfectly happy with just Amos if the rest of you want to get settled in.” Irina smiles beautifully, with a momentary scowl at Lara.

[Continued]
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>>1037636

Oh, I've got some ideas now.
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>>1037676
>today is the first field test for the S-Squilla
oh yes
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>>1037640
>yfw "Pimp my mech, storm dragon-chan!" has become a meme and people are covering mechs in waifu pictures just to troll, without you even having to move a finger.
Well... That scalated quickly.
>pic related
>>1037658
>I'm sure it would trigger them somehow.
Somehow?
Why do you think that their women have their entire body covered up? Tanks with semi-nude waifus would trigger them so hard that they would beserker in levels never expected even for them!
But it how be stupidly fun....
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Game resumes in an hour so Wong can eat. It's going to be fairly short tonight in any case.
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Alright then, Not!Megumin gets bullied by Not!Female Tie Bomber pilot for being a stick because she spray painted anime girls on her massive floating tank.

God this quest is ridiculous.
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>>1037678
NO BULLY!
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>>1037663
>and I love her for it.
>I love her for it.
> I love her

K-Kouhai... 「DOKI-DOKI」
Me and Wong were talking about this thing another day... And how would Victor react if Akai got in love with him?N-Not that she likes you or anything but... ITS JUST HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION OKAY?
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>>1037688

Tie Bomber? I thought it was a sort of Mobile Armor thing or a gravtank?
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>>1037658
I remember talks on K about using a fur suit covering on powered armor to cause incredible psychological damage as they face a bullet proof army of mascots.
>>1037680
Think someone came up with putting some pork product into bullets just to screw with them more.
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and I forgot my image
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>>1037698
I based her off the Tie Bomber Pilot from Star Wars: Tie Fighter since I knew she wasn't taken by anyone and she looks sort of Muslim.

Here's a pic of her >>1032015
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>>1037698
Uaifu is based on the TIE Bomber pilot of the TIE Figher Short. Pic related
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>>1037697
it's cool by me. For Victor this whole tourney is about cultural exchange.
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>>1037716
and even if he looses he's still a Victor! HA!HA!HA! oh god what have I done? so many bad jokes...i'm a monster
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>>1037716
My desire is to make every fight I can do rediculous and at least suplex one machine into the ground with a slam attack.
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>>1037743
that's a great desire to have. i hope it happens. well i'm off to sleep. have a great night folks
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>>1037712
I found the perfect thing to make up for my poor writing. You haven't added Rolling Thunder to the paste yet, right? I think I'm just going to update her character description to be a massive nerd for mobile armor, bombers, and heavy fighters.
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>>1037716
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>>1037752
Good night Avalonfriend!
Oh well, lets see how this unfolds...
>>1037743
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I hope that you get to at least do that!
And don't worry senpai, you seem like one of the best strategists of this game, I'm sure that you can come up with a plan to at least have a chance against anything we throw at you!
It won't be hard for the the guy who planned on how to defeat a gundam using only zakus II XD.
>>1037753
Not yet, I was reviewing it before I began to reply to everybody at once, tae your time... And Please send me the pastebin too.

Also
>Making fun of Akai because of her size
This is just cruel kouhai! Don't you know that flat is justice!?
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>>1037792
But big tits are dreams. And it'll only happen if Akai shitposts all over Uaifu's tank.

http://pastebin.com/KC0PMwJb

I'm a hip man myself.
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>>1037792
The best part is that by doing damage, even if it's little, means that the attack can crit. I could, if the rng is kind, get behind someone, suplex a machine and cause it to EXPLODE.
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>>1037792
>This is just cruel kouhai! Don't you know that flat is justice!?
Nope, and little girls should stick to playing house instead of piloting mechs.
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“Lunch on the way?” You suggest to Irina. She smiles at you.

“We're going.” Lara states unequivocally, and her sisters nod in unison.

Keith consults his PC, “I have to do maintenance on the sniper cannon. The coolant coils can get a little finicky if they don't get realigned every so often. I'll pass.”

“Hey, it's for Little Buddy Simon, I've got to come along.” Garret grins, “Besides, Marilyn's out that way, maybe we could meet up.”

Irina shakes her head, “I'll never understand how the two of you got together. The oddest of odd couples. Does your family know?” She sounds both approving and a little worried. It's easy to see why. Marilyn is her friend, and yours, but Garret is the Planetary Chairman's son. He's probably suffered through almost as many attempts at matchmaking with fine upper-class Jovian ladies as Caesar. You and Simon were lucky enough to escape that fate.

“It'll be fine.” Garret says without answering, “I'm sure Trevor will understand, and if Trevor approves, father will approve.”

Irina furrows her brow, “Trevor?”

“Colonel Trevor Luxol, his older brother.” You remind her.

“Ah, right.” She smiles, “Well, Pyxi, we're rooting for you.”

She finishes cleaning up her workspace, stores the fungus sample, and orders a military groundcar for transport to the hotel. Normally, the two of you would just walk, but with such a large party it just feels more convenient.

>[Roll 1d10+11, Intelligence+Awareness]
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Also, I think I might have found the Rolling Thunder Mk. II
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>>1037801
>Asking a anon to not shitpost
>Not wanting waifus all over your tank
>When your name is literally "My waifu"
Please, Kouhai, you know that I did it for love! How else would you learn to lock your mech without losing it with everything inside? I did you a favor by giving you a example of bad things that happen when you don't lock your things up! Its not like I broke it or anything... It even got more pretty!
>>1037808
>A Zaku suplexing mechs into exploding
This tourney just gets more and more awesome the nearer we get to it! AHHHH THIS WAIT COULD KILL ME!

also, what does RNG means?
>>1037811
>Calling the scarlet witch "little girl"
This is how people get cursed.
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Rolled 2 + 11 (1d10 + 11)

>>1037832
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Rolled 9 + 11 (1d10 + 11)

>>1037832
Dice don't fail me now.

>>1037834
Cursed with what? Glitter?
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Rolled 8 + 11 (1d10 + 11)

>>1037832
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>>1037833
I've gone through like 5 different iterations. I've lost track.
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>>1037835
Jove Dammit Thunder. Why couldn't you wait?

Your rolls are bad outside seduction, intimidate, and combat rolls.
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>>1037834
random number generator. Aka the dice. No matter how good your plan and design is, luck can screw you over.
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>>1037840
Pray to RNGesus. RNGesus giveth, and taketh away.
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>>1037839
Never know when your not going to be lucky
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>>1037834
Like Wong said earlier, every mech pilot is like a fighter pilot on steriods and cocaine. Messing with their ride would make any mech pilot mad. Even more so because their name is unfortunately similar to a term used by a nearly-dead subculture hundreds of years old.

Especially ones who are borderline autistic about their mech. Which reminds me I completely forgot to post the pic I found. It may be unreadable if 4chan compresses it at all.
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>>1037833
You know what, I really like that hybrid version totally not because I love shark mouth nose art. I'm saving this pic and I'm going to stat it up when I have time. Maybe Wong can use it if he wants fodder mechs.

Actually, did Wong ban transforming?
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>>1037852
Bigger one for you
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>>1037864
Thanks man.
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Rolled 7 (1d10)

>>1037843
We shall see.
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>>1037852
I'll let for Wong to decide if that happened or not... But I'm okay with that if you are, and as you seem to have liked the idea to give more material for your character... I'm okay with it.
Also, i found very funny the idea of Siren scolding Akai for going around in a pimped Tank in the middle of the colony as Wong described it, so it could be cool for some laughs.XD

About transforming... It isn't banned, but its too expensive and without much advantages for using it, so most people just considered it a bad idea from the start.

And now that I took a look at your Tank...
Fist, Main sensors weight 1ton.
Seond, a enviromental cockpit occupy 2 spaces not one.
Third, I think that you can't reduce something to less than 1 space, you would have to ask Wong that to be certain, but in your case there is no need to do that as the shield only takes one space and you can continue to reduce the spaces of the weapon instead.
Fouth, The actual price of Frame+Armor+weapons is 42 tons.
Fifth,There is no way that you're going to fit all those thursters in the torso anyway, so prepare to split them to the head too.
In this case my suggestion would be:
Torso:
Backup Sensors(2Spaces)
Cockpit(2Spaces)
Shield(1 Space)
Weapon(Tranfered the space efficiency from the shield, 8Spaces)
9 Thursters
Head:
Main sensors(1 Space)
10 Thursters

Sixth, You'll need to put another 1CP into weight reduction to get it down into 39.5tons again... And I also recommend you to but Design & Decor, Torso Storage, More space efficiency to fit that, and MISSILES.
... Or you could just buy the Missiles, that could work too, as you'll need space efficiency and weght reduction for them too.

Also, you probably already know this, but having a shield in a torso could be a bad choice, I don't think that this is your case but... You still could drastically change the design to include one more servo and use the Swallowtail strategy of sacrifing a servo on-purpose...

Anyway, any questions?

>>1037836
>pic
When you notice it, it'll be too late.
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Sorry everyone, some small technical difficulties. We're back now.
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The weather was clear on your way to Innsmouth, so you're a little surprised when you leave the ship to see steel-grey skies. Judging from the ominous roiling of the clouds, it looks like rain is an inevitability. Thank Jove for the groundcar. The first few drops spatter off the windshield as Irina drives, talking to you about her planned improvements to your mech. You're trying to pay attention, but something distracts you. Someone standing in the doorway of a shop looks up at the sky and as they turn around, the light gleams off their glasses in a strangely familiar way.

“Amos? Amos, did you hear that?” She asks.

“What, about needing to recalibrate all of the balance systems? Yeah, it makes perfect sense.” You remark, still gazing out the window, “That's funny, it's just that for a moment I thought I saw an old friend.”

Garret laughs, looking up from the conversation he's having via text messages with Marilyn, “It wasn't the Major, was it?”

You shake your head, “Nah, it looked like Caesar, for a second.”

Garret frowns, “He's in the Solar System, man. If he was coming here, we'd be the first to know.”

You nod, “Yeah, of course. You're right, it wasn't him. Besides, you know Caesar, he wouldn't leave his room unless it was for a mission or something.” Whoever it was, this guy was taller, anyway, and their stance had more confidence than your missing friend.

Garret claps you on the shoulder, “I miss him too.”

“Miss Gaunt, do you ever get jealous of Ensign Luxol being so close to your boyfriend?” Lyra asks, the freckled Fleur sister smiling brightly.

“No? Why? It's just normal male bonding. Can't two guys just be friends?” Irina asks, sounding completely innocent.

Lyra huffs, “You're no fun!”

“Pipe down, Lyra, I bet the LT would disagree.” Lara grumbles, looking out the window, “I don't even have an umbrella, I'm gonna get soaked...”

“Are you really upset about the weather?” Lyanna asks, without explanation.

Irina pulls up to the hotel, everyone flashes their ID at the checkpoint, and the groundcar parks in an underground garage. You make your way up to the hotel itself, and discover a very different scene from the last time you were here...

[Continued]
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>>1037916
Huh, so that 1 actually helped Caesar out from being detected by his friends. Lucky for him.
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>>1037907
Sorry for the sensors and cockpit I copied them from a mech earlier and didn't bother to check if they were right because I'm lazy totally messed those up on my own.

The shield was bad reading on my part, I though it took 2. I'll fix that quick and move around stuff (luckily I have so much extra CP to use on space efficiency.)

The reason I want to put the gun in the head is because on a mechatank you have to designate one servo ("either the head or torso" which I assume means you can have more than one of each) as the turret to allow it to turn 360 degrees, and I don't see how the torso could be the turret.

Though I did forget to specify that... My bad. That's my fault.

Also, I can put the thrusters in the head? I assumed since thrusters can be used as a pseudo GES and non-leg servos using a GES can't do anything else, I couldn't do that since then it couldn't fire the gun in atmosphere. Plus the thrusters on the turret wouldn't reach the ground
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>>1037931
>can't do anything else
Well, they can't do anything. The example in the book was that an arm with GES couldn't fire a weapon because it was busy making the mech float.
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>>1037928
speaking of Caesar, have some lovely Ys music while we wait. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RfuwKAo92M
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Most of the upper floor rooms have been completely torn out, leaving a glass shell behind. Struts of metal reach like the webbing of some mad arachnid to pin a tremendous mech in place, tall enough to loom over yours easily, as tall as the Berenger. Armor plates are still being fitted to one of the arms, and you can see that woven into and around the frame are rubbery, fibrous white tentacles, so many and so thick that they surround most of the frame the way muscles surround a living creature's bones.

“Eww, what's that smell?” Lyra wrinkles her nose.

“Plant food.” Irina explains, “It's a hyper-nutrient-rich solution of some kind, it's part of the reason why this thing is ready so quickly.”

“Amos, what the hell is this?” Garret asks, “Grown? Plant food?”

You give him your biggest, goofiest smile, “Guess I know more than you for once, huh?”

“The S-Squilla is a counter-Paladin unit devised by the UJCIDF to handle extreme threats.” Irina explains, “There is a biological component to its working.”

“A fucking Paladin.” Garret states flatly, “That thing is a fucking Paladin.”

“Yes. Sort of, anyway.” She catches his stare, and frowns, “This was approved at the highest levels of the Jovian government. Your own father gave Bahamut Corporation the go-ahead on this project. Besides, it wasn't my idea.”

“What about Simon? Isn't this dangerous to him, or is he just expendable?” Garret's tone is a little heated.

“Simon was pre-selected as the S-Squilla's pilot because of his talents. He is the exact opposite of expendable.” Irina's tone is also a bit sharp.

>[Garret's right, Irina, we don't know if this is safe, can't we delay a little longer?]
>[Trust Irina, Garret. We should let Simon do what he's good at, we can't protect him forever]
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>>1037945
>>[Trust Irina, Garret. We should let Simon do what he's good at, we can't protect him forever]
Amos trusts his friends
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>>1037945
>>[Trust Irina, Garret. We should let Simon do what he's good at, we can't protect him forever]
Thats why we need to support and help him. We're friends after all. We aren't going to ditch him.
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>>1037945
>>[Trust Irina, Garret. We should let Simon do what he's good at, we can't protect him forever]

Besides, the two of us are still going to be there right beside him.

Shit gets too dangerous, we're pulling his ass out of the fire.
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>>1037948
Agreed. It's time for him to shine.
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>>1037945
>>[Trust Irina, Garret. We should let Simon do what he's good at, we can't protect him forever]
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>>1037931
>>1037935
>Thursters
This is up to Wong, but in this case I think that he should be okay with it as you're still paying the price for thursters after all, and because there is no way to have that MA without spreading the thursters through all limbs in your case.
Your gun takes 8 Spaces, right? So you could probably mount it in the head and leave only 2 Thursters there with the sensors....
But that could be a very bad idea, as any enemy would just focus on the head as it is much more easier to destroy and you don't have any other weapon to use against them... Besides maybe "RAM"ing them like a ROCK.

And please write [X-Mounted] before the name of the weapon when she is a built-in weapon, that helps.

Also, what do you think about the missiles idea? I think that Dutch-senpai could give you some good ideas about bombs.
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>>1037945
>>[Trust Irina, Garret. We should let Simon do what he's good at, we can't protect him forever]
We have to give Simon a chance... but I think that this may end badly either way.
And they said that Jupiter couldn't get worse than that "Ancap-Space-Rapture goes full bioshock" episode, huh...
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Aye. Have been working with the idea of a AP missile type. The new cracker grenades for the F-type have AP in exchange for accuracy and damage. Honestly, I was thinking of using them and a few other ideas for a more Combat based Betta varrient. That beam coating and hero armor would be a good combo.
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>>1037960
>Weapon spaces
Forgot to list that too... 9, since the 18.75 should round up and I have 10 Space efficiency.

Oh, and you CAN mount a shield and it'll still work, right?

I do like the missile idea, and I made the shield smaller so I could fit it. Hopefully I'll still have enough points for space efficiency and the missiles themselves. I suppose I could make the shield even smaller than 12 SP, but since I designed it specifically to be the opposite of a lightly armored, smallish humanoid mech it may go against the design principle.
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>>1037945
>>[Trust Irina, Garret. We should let Simon do what he's good at, we can't protect him forever]
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>>1037964
If they formed a government, are they actually ancap?
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“Garret, Simon's our friend, right?” You ask.

He frowns, “Well, yeah, exactly, but...”

You cut him off, “He's a SOUL pilot too, just like us, right? He was there when we fought Hector Van Damme. He was there when we faced the Paladin. He's put his life on the line over and over, and been just as brave as any of us.” You aren't a liar, saying that. Sure, Simon had a bad moment or too, but in your mind people can't be brave unless they're scared. Overcoming fear is courage, not feeling it at all is insanity, “We have to support him in what he's good at, and be there with him to pull his buns out of the oven if it gets too hot. He'd do the same for us, and you know it.”

“S-Squilla armor fully functional. .” Announces a Martian-accented voice over the loudspeakers, one of the scientists, “Do we have your go-ahead, Chief Gaunt?”

Irina sets her PC to megaphone, “All clear. Ensign Biggs, how are things up there?”

You look around, and notice the three pink-haired Fleur girls standing together against one wall, casting uneasy glances up at the big mech and talking in hushed tones. It's a tall, but lanky construct, predominantly purple with green highlights, a forward-thrust face that reminds you of a shark's with two distinct eye sensors and a shark-toothed mouth you assume is ornamental, plus a jagged forehead-horn that reminds you of Caesar's mech. Its arms are long and slender, but powerful, and tipped with sharp claws. It has a spine more articulated than any other mech you've seen, with a row of thruster vents on either side. There are squared-off, bladelike protrusions on the knees, elbows, and shoulders. It looks dangerous, even with thick cables running into its back and the struts holding it in place.

You see Simon lean over the edge of the cockpit hatch and wave vigorously, “A-all set up here. Guys!” He gasps, “You're here! You really came!”

Garret gives you a look, and a grin, then cups his hands around his mouth and calls out, “Rooting for you all the way, buddy! Get this thing working so we can win the war and go home!”

“You can do it, Simon!” You cheer him, a bit unoriginally.

“Woohoo! Do it, Simon! Fight with your whole heart, and you'll win!” You hear cheering, and notice Sergeant Catherine Nedermeyer waving to Simon from one of the remaining balconies.

You glance at Irina, “I wouldn't have expected you to let a Palomino pilot in here, and I thought you said she couldn't keep a secret?”

Irina looks mildly embarrassed, and shrugs, “I can be a sentimental woman sometimes. Besides, morale matters, and she's good for his.” She turns the megaphone function back on, “Systems check.”

“All green!” Simon reports retreating to the cockpit as the hatch closes tight, “Checklist completed, ready for imminent launch! Biocore initiated, heartbeat steady. Wake up, S-Squilla.”

[Continued]
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>>1037966
You know a lot more about missiles than I do, and Brazil knows more about everyone here than I do so his opinion's a good one, so what sort of missile would you add with 37.45 CP available while you still need to add thrusters and weight efficiency?

Also, where's the missile AP rule? I've gone over the missile rules like 10 times and can't see it.
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>>1037986
I'm pretty much going by the seat of my pants with AP missiles, taking them from other weapons. Taking a look at how projectile ammo seems to double the multiplier for it's ammo(as seen in the shock case where it is x2/x3 normally), I went with a x2 template for it, like with melee. It makes Blast a lot more viable since even with a up armored machine it can still eat into it. Led me to trying to make a sort of demi-nuke missile. Blast 10, AP, and 75% range along side 20 kills would be 35.2 CP. Or go full range, and get one holdable by a med striker for 65 CP total. Aim it at a big, fat target like a ship, and watch the fireworks.
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>>1037967
8, because you have to tranfer the 0.5CP of space efficiency that you put in the shield to the weapon.

And reducing the SP fromthe shield will free more CP but isn't going to make it smaller per se.

Also, your shield is already "mounted" in the torso, don't worry.
>>1037971
The first settlers and their descendants were ancaps for generations... But then some degenerates fell for the statist meme and resulted in "General Fairchild".

>>1037993
AP ammo has a multiplier of 4x... So you should ask Wong about how he would like to rule that.
>>1037986
>37.35CP
You don't need this much for good missiles, even 3 WA+2 10K missiles could do a good damage and would only cost 6 CP or 8.5CP if you want them to occupy just one space.

The thing about missiles is that you have to think about how you are planning to use them, and for what effect, and them develop from this point forward.
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>>1037986
As for what KIND of missiles? Well.. let's see. You got one big gun, but no swarm weapons or softeners. If you want to be clever, use a weapon mount to start. 2 spaces, 2 CP, will allow you to externally mount a weapon with as much space as you have kills. Put it on the torso for full fun. Then, get some -1 Ac Blast 1 5 kill AP missile. Each missile would be 2.4 Cp. 3 per kill so with 6 you have a ton of missiles.
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>>1037964
http://pastebin.com/FjYTjmgj
This should be the current Version of the Chi!era. Hopefully it checks out.
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Reposting my mech/pilot just in case http://pastebin.com/wwT3gZS1
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>>1038004
Man, I know that you put work and effortin this one too... But are you sure that you don't want to use the latest version before this one? Even Wong said that he liked it, and the 12K weapon with a shady background just made it even cooler...
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>>1038000
Ahhh, but I back this with other evidence. The disruptor ammo, which is x4 is x2 for beam weapons and that stuff is built into all beams. So if it works that way Blast 1, which is like a missile's blast 1, is 6x to missile's 3x. So, by that logic, if we were to do AP, it would be x2, not x4.
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There's a hum of machinery, so deep it rattles your bones. A flicker of orange glows in the S-Squilla's eyes.

“How do you feel, Simon?” Irina calls out.

Silence.

“Simon?” She asks.

“Miss Gaunt.” He answers, in a hushed tone amplified by the S-Squilla's speakers, “I can feel it. I can feel it. It's here. It's coming to me. Nothing else, just...warmth. I'm so strong right now. Everyone else looks so small from up here.” The S-Squilla shifts abruptly, its head angling downwards, and its arm twisting as it looks down at itself, at the palm of its hand, “My father was wrong. All this time, I wasn't useless. I wasn't nothing. It is with me. It is me. I can feel it. I'm alive. It's alive. We're alive. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it.” His voice repeats over and over, a little faster each time, “I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can feel it I can I feel it I feel it...”

“Something's wrong!” Irina shouts, “Cut the power, now!”

“Ma'am!” One of the younger technicians calls out, “We're getting weird seismic readings, there's an earthquake. Three-point-oh on the Richter scale and rising!”

“I canfeelitIcanfeelitIcanfeelitIcanfeelitIcanfeelitIcanfeelitIcanfeelitIcanfeelitIcanfeelitIcanfeelit!” Simon's voice rises to a shriek as the pinpoints of light blossom into glowing cones of radiance, “Father, you're here, aren't you!? I can hear you! I'm coming to see you!”

Figures in white labcoats flee as a strut breaks loose, crashing to the floor, the S-Squilla ripping out of its restraints like a butterfly emerging from its chrysalis. More struts rain down, and you grab Irina and haul her out of the open area, running for the doors to the hotel.

The S-Squilla throws back its head, and the mouth you assumed was ornamental opens wide. It screams.
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>>1038013
BRACE FOR FIRST IMPACT!!!!
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>>1038013
Only fitting music now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJuexdl_c5s
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>>1038002
>>1037986
Weapon mount cost 2CP but will let you economize on the space efficiency... and will leave your weapon vulnerable to direct attacks(Which no one really uses because they suffer a -4 penalty and would need to attack it 10 times to kill it anyway) and crits.

The Crit thing could be less of a problem if you keep some missiles for emergencies, but there is no certainty that you'll get to neutralize your enemy with just a few shots.

>>1038010
I think that my reading skill are failing at this text... But I may be getting what you want to imply, just let me check this.
Also, I like the way you think.
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GAME RESUMES MONDAY!
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>>1038008
No, I'm not sure. But that's the last work I'll do on it tonight. Need to get some sleep. Should have some time tomorrow night after work to make another mock-up.
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>>1038023
>when Wong writes better plot hooks than most anime writers.
CAN ANYONE EVEN REMOTELY SURPASS OUR BOY WONG!?
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>>1038027
It's short, leaves us with a cliffhanger, Caesar and Moe on Qul'lir, might even see the action from their POV.
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>>1038023
And for that, you get THIS themesong! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUamHEvVQy0
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>>1038013
Hoo boy!
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>>1038000
Yeah, I know, missiles are surprisingly cheap. 37 is before thrusters and weight efficiency.

tl;dr on the missiles, if I add any of any significance it'll bump me up to -5 MV, and 4 is already bad enough.

I have taken your advice and added thrusters to the head, I don't know if how I did it was good though, or even legal. I added 6 more space efficiency to the gun, for a total of 16 so now it takes 2 space. With the sensors I can add 8 thrusters.

>>1038019
About that, I want your and >>1038002 opinion (pretty sure you're the one that pointed this out; you made the Dutchman, right?)

I'm worried about weapon mounting the gun, because as I understand that would mean it could only fire forward, and if any mech got behind me they could pin me, and I wouldn't be able to shoot them until the pin was broken. Would the extra CP I could use for the missiles/weight efficiency be worth making it even worse in melee combat?

Honestly at this point I'm thinking of just starting over and making a slightly smaller fighter.

Though since dutchman anon implied Wong Ok'd AP missiles, some 3 K AP missiles might be good? I've noticed there are very few mecha that use more than Heavy Striker armor.
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>>1038039
>16
Messed up, meant 17.
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>>1038039
With the way your machine is designed, and how it's only got ammo based weapons, Keeping distance and range are likely your best options alongside aiming. It's an excellent artillery/heavy weapons platform, but it's also something I see as more support for a fight than the main champ. Likewise, if I recall -5 is about Warmouth-Kaiser levels of MV. It's not bad, and with how ammo sensative your gun is, having to aim a bit before firing won't be bad. Another thing to consider though, is that you can use your thick armor to your advantage, especially with a 0 DA shield. Enemy gets close? Drop a bunch of those blast missiles. Won't hurt you, but will hurt them.
As for the 3 kill missiles, yes that could work but keep in mind that every 5 is half a ton. So for every 3 CP, use 1 CP for weight efficiency.
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>>1038039
>Low Kills AP missiles
No, Bad Idea, it would cause just 1K of damage to medium armor mechs getting directly hit, and wouldn't even cause damege to more armored mechs. In this "Light officer mechs" scenario a normal 6K missile would work better in damage terms anyway.

About your points... You are probably going to spend 5CP to lower your weight to -4MV, and 19CP on Thursters anyway, because missiles are very "light" (They give you only 0.5 as per each 15K of missile damage you buy)... So any more costs will be depending on how much missiles you buy... But you probably aren't going to spend more than 2 or 3CP on extra weight reduction because of this.
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>>1038052
Also, it's not that wong approved this idea, it's more me using the Book's bullshit against it and using logic to see what sticks. It's a viable idea and makes sense to me since there are rockets designed to penetrate armor.
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>>1038054
Oooohhh, 15K of missiles is .5 tons? Where does it even say that? I thought it was like everything else and was half the kills. It seemed really stupid to me, but I couldn't find the rule anywhere.

This isn't as bad then. It could totally work, especially with all the extra space I have in the torso now.
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>>1038052

-5 is standard for a Medium Weighter, -4 is standard for a Heavy Striker. The Black Ogre has -4 because it's sick agile and was designed and redesigned over and over again to perfectly accomodate the movements of someone the designer knew incredibly intimately, much as the Delphinius when complete will have -4 (or possibly even better, who can say?)

-3 is standard for typical Jovian line mecha like Pumpkinseeds, Bluegills, and Palominos, regarded as pretty agile. The Archen, on the bigger end of the Heavy Striker scale, is regarded as a graceful dancer for having -3.

What this says about the motherfucking Oliver with its particular low penalties and MEDIUM HEAVY frame tells you all you need to know about the Duke.
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>>1038052
Also, I forgot to tell you, I got rid of the ballistic gun because fuck ammo it's goddamn retarded. I have an energy weapon with 2 more kills and about 300 less range. Might give it more range, I'll have to see.
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>>1038062
I must say the whole MV thing is my least favorite part of the system. Even worse than being forced to get space efficiency for everything.
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>>1038058

Missiles have special ATM rules. I started out being neutral on missiles, then hated them, then loved them. It's part of the reason why I like the S-Swordtail and S-Delphinius so much, the Swordtail accidentally ended up being perfectly efficient because blast radius missiles cap at 5K per hit and then start again on a second hit at 1K and go up from there (so a 10K Blast missile would do 5K to two locations, a 15K would do 5K to three, a 20K would do 5K to four) unless you hit directly.
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>>1038040
>>1038052
Looking at this makes me think of the following example:
A 6K missile against Heavy Striker armor would cause 1 damage on the first hit, the same damage that a 3K AP would do, but would be "heavier" on weight terms.
In compensation, it would cause 2 Damage in a 4SP Amor(be it a medium striker class or even just an ablated heavy striker), where the 3K would still do just 1K, even if it is "lighter" on weight terms.

Also, there is the exceptional "TEMPLAR" case, where the 3K AP would do NO DAMAGE AT ALL, as the TEMPLAR uses Avalonian-grade beta armor.

but the final choice is up to you.
>>1038055
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I just checked, good call on that senpai! Your logic really makes sense!
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>>1038065

I initially felt that way too, then later on I warmed up to it as a balance against making the biggest, heaviest thing and having size equal power. I feel like the system may have kind of intended for you to pick one or two frame sizes to use for everything, but I actually like the fact that the game moved a little ways away from gundam with having big hulking mecha like the Black Ogre surrounded by swarms of smaller followers. Space and Weight Efficiency can feel like a bit of a cop-out, but I think it was a needed fix, it's nice being able to just spend CP at a flat amount to fix problems even if past a certain threshold Weight Efficiency is always more efficient than, say, Verniers or Reflex Controls.
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>>1038068
Well, one option is to go the 4 kill AP missile. It means that it could do damage to beta armor and get past 6 SP armor fine. Bit heavier, but worth it.
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>>1038070
Size should equal power though, especially for a robot. I mean when you are paying so much for something so big it should be able to give you something more than a few more hit points and a slightly harder punch that you'll probably miss anyway.
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>>1038062
I keep going from "it's shit" to "wow, it actually kinda good" because it's really easy for me to get to -4 with the mechatank debeuff. I do only have 2 servos though. Granted with armor nearly 3 times as strong as Heavy Striker Armor. I can't tell if it's as good or worse than having more, smaller servos with less armor.

>>1038068
I'm thinking, since I now understand the rules, and since Thunder was always designed to not get close, I'm going with range boosted 6K missiles and adding more range on the main gun.

>>1038070
>as a balance against making the biggest, heaviest thing and having size equal power
Yeah, that's why I like it too. Battletech is diminished because bigger mechs are always better in every aspect of combat compared to smaller mech. Running faster isn't good enough for the tradeoff of less armor and guns.
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Oh, and does anyone know the stats for the Tulwar? I wanted to make a bigger fighter (though with the mech I wanted to make from earlier, and my limited time, that'll be sometime next year.)
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>>1038077
The heavier armor and less servos is a sort of trade off. It's good for melee attacks sicne they would choose the targets, but it means burst attacks have a better chance of getting into the special table since it would keep rerolling. So good for melee, bad for range enemies. Still, you are a super heavy tank. A -5 isn't the worst thing considering it's sheer girth. It's like a Mini-Tarrasque in a way. Or half a Big Zam. A Zam if you will.
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>>1038062
As for the Duke, did I mention how glad I am that it doesn't seem to have it's gun? Because I am really bloody glad it doesn't have it's gun.
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>>1038087
I just dont like the way it makes you suck at everything. Dodging I can see because you are a big fuck but you should still be able to block fine. Weapon accuracy I think should be more dependent on the weapon than the machine using it.
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>>1038087
Yeah, and I figured it could hit stuff out of their range, since most beam weapons have few kills and not a lot of range boost. AP ballistics are basically my tank's kryptonite.

Also, what are the rules for kills falling in between multiples of 15? I'm guessing it adds the extra .5 tons anyway, but I want to be sure there's not some other rule I can't find in the book.
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>>1038073
Could work... But you have to keep in mid that AP works better when there is blast involved, because normal missiles do +1DMG per sucessive hit, while AP do +1DMG per two hits, and works better against heavy armore opponents... That aren't common here.

>>1038077
There are also other good options besides that.
For example, you could have some "Emergency" missiles in case you lose your gun(if you are using the weapon mount) or in case they get too close, and WA+3 10K missiles of 2CP each could do an amazing job of exploding your enemies in a missile spam( as most mechs here are medium strikers with heavy striker armor that can't tank 10K to any servo other than their torso).
Or 10K Blast missiles of 3CP each could do a number on any mook group that mobed on you...

There are also the possibility of making BOMBS, that don't have range, are cheaper, but work by running into your enemy and letting go of them at high speeds against them in the most "dodge or die" manner possible.

Also, I don't think that having a range greater than 1km is a good idea tourney-wise, as you probably isn't going to get further than that from your opponent anyway.
>>1038078
I think that I have the link to that pastebin here... Oh here it is: http://pastebin.com/LsnpqE7Y

>>1038087
In fact, it is even better for ranged mechs, as their fire will be concentrated in just a few servos, and they won't have to worry about shooting wings when you wanted to make a hole in your opponent torso.
...And this is the second reason to as why the walkure have wings.
The first is just for aesthetical purposes.
>>1038096
You round up, so... 20K? 1Ton, 40K? 1,5 tons.
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>>1038096
Round it up same as usual. It's why I usually stick to 4s and 8s for EMWs.
>>1038094
Well, being super heavy and big would make moving limbs or getting out of the way difficult. It's the difference between a heavy weight boxer and a feather weight. Sure the feather weight can float like a butterfly, but the heavy weight hits like a semi. To keep all that weight and yet remain agile takes a lot of exercise and training which in a way could be like CP for the boxer.
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>>1038096
Also, before I forget, you could buy a booster pack.
Just a 2CP or 3CP one would probably be enough for keeping people away for a few turns if they try to get close.
But that would get your weight up... So it would probably work against the missile options.
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>>1038101
Actually, it would not! Booster packs do not weight normally and instead use a balance modifer. It will only affect your MA and MV when it reaches 1 or more.
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>>1038098
...And my language skills are seemingly shutting down, I will take a break and be back here for just more a short while before going to sleep.
See you soon.
>>1038103
Hum... so he should be fine if he can keep it under that.
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>>1038105
Pretty much. A 5 CP with a high max is possible or you can go with a bigger booster CP wise but keep the max low. Gets in the way with command armor though.
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>>1038099
Difference is a heavyweight can still punch as accurately as a featherweight. Being heavy doesn't suddenly mean you cant hit the side of a barn when you're standing inside it.
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>>1038109
No, but slower movements can indeed affect how you can hit someone. Yes they can hit the same spot, but if you are too slow or swing too wide due to your larger frame, it can cost you the shot if the lighter, faster person can respond and react to it.
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>>1038098
Huh. actually, I could have six 3 WA 10K missiles, and since I would put 8 thrusters in the body, I would have 10 free spaces, so I could put them all in with 2 space efficiency and only cost 13 CP. They nearly have half the range of the main gun though.
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>>1038111
Thats against a faster target which is reasonable but they are also more likely to miss against slower and indeed immobile targets which is not.
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>>1038116
Slower and immobile enemies would have bigger penalties than them. Hitting a ship is a +8 to hit it, so that does not work.
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>>1038119
They would have bigger penalties but you are still taking penalties to hit them. If a fat guy and a skinny guy are both standing still and taking pot shots at some cans on a fence the skinny guy isnt going to be magically more likely to hit them.
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I think this should work good. I even managed to squeeze in enough weight efficiency to drop down to -4 MV and it totally wasn't because the space efficiency and thruster calculations were getting to me trust me I'm a fairy.

>>1038105
Night Brazil. I'll post the current version now so you can check it whenever. I should have enough time somewhere around 6 am tomorrow (so like 26 hours or so from now) to seriously think about any critiques you have so you can take your time checking it.

http://pastebin.com/mN845wuf
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>>1038120
You guys are forgetting that it also have to do with how the HMIS works, and that the further(more complicated, bigger, diversified, and weirder) away you get from the "normal" human body, the harder it is to control everything.

Just remember that the true and biggest problem of the megabass project wasn't building that monstruosity, but finding someone who could control it in any significant way and who wouldn't get fried after 5mins of use.
>>1038133
I'll give it a look after a good sleep, but don't worry, things are being fun with tweaking this one and seeing what sticks, so it will be a pleasure ^^,
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>>1038138
I giving out about the system rather than any in universe justification for it.
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>>1038013
Annnnd I just realized our fuck up. Those white connectors weren't spores and were indeed likely lesser mandrakes. Connected not to a Pally, but to a possible bio platform. We just turned on a giant one of those and this thing picked up on it. He's not going father because of Simon's father, the machine is going 'Father' because it's Father, the Bio Armor is calling! Hopefully we can snap him out of it or get him to power down, but we may also have to talk to the Squillia as well.
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>>1038143
Oh yeah, system wise it wasn't very inteligent of them to do it, even if your weight can slower you... Why would it affect your ability to shoot?

>>1038145
....
Oh crap.
I... I think that you're right, it makes much more sense now... And this is VERY BAD.
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>>1038148
I'd recommend saving 5 luck and having a very good conversation with the Duo if we want them to calm down. NO actually hurting them! Use shield bashes or rams to push them back and eat up turns, but no actual damage. We aren't just trying to persuade Simon, but the Squillia as well and chances are they are so bloody connected it may have feed back. Good news is that our beam saber could very well parry it's blows as well.
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>>1038133
If your number aren't wrong...
First, there is no need to round up the price of the shield, so you still have 2CP to go(Or a little less depending on how Wong rules fractional prices for Thrusters...).
Second... Your weapon is in the Torso and your missiles are on the head, right? This seems like the only combination that would make sense.
Third, changing for MA 8 won't help you to stay away from your enemies... I know that you fell in love with the power of 「EXPLOSION」but maybe 5 missiles could be going too far...
Or you could do the weapon-mount thing to be able to get some CP back to put in the booster pack.
Fourth, Booster pack would be good, even if its just a 20MA one, as a few rounds of going at 600mpt while shooting could give you an advantage over your enemies.

>>1038162
This seems like a good idea... But its easier said than done.
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Good night(Or Day, Or evening) to you guys, this is it for me, time to sleep.
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>>1038167
>>1038168
Good thing I took a shower. I'll post this now since it'll be forever before I get another chance to.

The gun is in the head still, for the ability to turn 360 degrees and because it takes up 2 space. The 2 spaces on the missiles seemed small compared to the 22 the torso has (I wanted 6 for symmetry because they're supposed to be single fire since salvo isn't all that great for big missiles, but that wouldn't work.)

Got lazy on the shield, feel free to fix it if you want. Though if I remember it's a really small amount of CP.

How about this then? I did it in like 2 minutes because I memorized all the math, so something may be wrong.

x3 Missiles: 10K, 550 Meter Range, 1 Ton, 6 CP

Total Before Thrusters/Weight Efficency
Cost 117.15 CP
Weight 41.5 Tons

Thrusters
16 Spaces, 15.6 CP

10 MV
Head: 8 Thrusters
Torso: 8 Thrusters

3 Weight Efficiency, 6 CP

MV -4

Total Cost 138.75 CP
Total Weight 37.5 Tons
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>>1038167
It will require wordsmithing of the highest caliber, knowing Simon's character, and showing leadership like crazy. Also, probably getting Simon and the Squillia into that 'What would Roarke do?' mind set and use music and a Rebel Yell to help break them out. Oh, and the aid of Garret, Irina, his love, and even Jesus and the Black Tri stars.
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>>1037708
So, how did Uaifu get that scar?
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>>1038193
And after a good rest and looking at the dread book of madness, a possible method has been found; Pooling. Normally used for mecha designing(and likely the creation too), but it seems pretty simple: Use the highest base stat of the participants, then adds their skill levels together to beat rolls that are normally impossible(an example would be Roarke using his 10 cool along with his leadership to motivate his pirate armada, then adding in Oda, Red Siren's, and others leadership to further boost it.) Add a bit of luck and even with the generally low social rolls, we'd be able to pass 30. What I am getting at is.. I want to beat the emo out of Evagelion with the power of friendship from all the people we met on this crazy side adventure and the human spirit.
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>>1038174
You know that the missiles occupy a number of spaces equal to its cost, right?
So even in this configuration, they would still be placed on the head, as there is only one vacant space on the torso.
...And you could just have both of them (the cannon and the missiles) on the head if you just put all the thursters in the torso.

And with your last CP... I would reccomend either Torso storage(very useful for pirates), Design & Decor(Why not? It would occupy your last torso space too though) or a externally mounted 10MA booster pack(For emergencies).
None of them would affect anything other than CP, so they seem like simple and good choices.
>>1038193
Hm...
I probably should leave the wordsmitthing part up to you guys, as people seem to dislike most of my suggestions when I'm not trolling cat girls into "Naked pudding fight" or weddings...

>>1038222
She is probably going to tell you about how she got that in a heroic duel with the pirate band who killed her colleagues....
But if she is really based on the Tie-Fighter pilot... She got that by opening a closet door to her face...
Also, nice trips.
>>1038876
You crazy bastard.
I love the way that you think.
Never change,senpai.
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>>1038174
Also, your missiles complete stats should be:
>[Turret-Mounted] "Missile Name": Range 550m, WA +3, 10K(2 Structural Kills), 3 Rockets, 6 CP, 6 Spaces, 1 ton.

If you want, they could be "Akai's made" and left on the Tank as a little present after she gave it a new paint job...
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>>1038103

That depends, I think what you cited is for external booster packs, while internal ones have actual weight. One thing I've done twice now is give mecha big, detachable, reasonably lightly-armored Pods with internal booster packs, essentially giving them the option of trading maneuverability for speed and vice versa.
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>>1040745
Side note, but what order do we roll defensive options? The RSM 01 G(A) Valkyrie would technically make four defensive rolls against a missile attack, and I don't know which order to roll them in.
(Dodge at +13, Shadow Imager at +20, Antimissle at +16, Active Shield at +11).
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>>1040745
Wong, when deciding the cost of thrusters, do we pay the fractional cost? Or do we just round them up or down depending of the nearer whole number?
...Or should we just do the better option for our mech design because you don't care about those fractions so much?
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>>1040745
A good point, though I see it as a case of 'sustainability' and 'raw output'. The ability to belt out an extra 10 MA at a moment of crisis is good.. until you run out of fuel. Meanwhile, thruster arrays like Duke's are indeed clunky and can weigh quite a bit thanks to armor, but they are reliable and long lasting.

And while you exist, I have been thinking of a side upgrade for the torso of the Kaiser. Increase chest size, add an extra pilot seat, and equip it with electronic warfare equipment. The idea being that the second pilot would use the tech to disable sensors and bits to soften up foes and maintaining the link. Likewise, it could prevent counter measures by others.
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>>1040769
Dodge>Imager>Antimissile.
If they all should fail, the Active Shield will catch the first missile attack of the turn, even if it is a missile spam.(The Pharcyde could destroy your shield in one spam if it gets to this point, so you should take care...)
But you don't roll anything in the case of a blast, and even the shield wouldn't work because it isn't DA0.
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Fun fact, some of you may have been wondering what the L in SOUL stands for, or assumed it was just bullshit for the sake of a catchy acronym. The truth is, it refers to the fact that SOUL officers have priority when it comes to transport and frequently have entire battleships dedicated to their use or even have the right to commandeer lesser starships. You saw this at 16-Psyche, where Lieutenant McAllister (and briefly Lysa Fleur) were in charge of Jovian forces despite the presence of Captains from the regular forces on board the Cleander, Petronius, and Archimedes. Special Operations (the missions SOUL is used for, like anti-Paladin work), Units (the SOUL mecha), and Logistics.

>>1038074

I disagree. Or, rather, the genre does. I'm not a physicist, obviously, but the idea that a smaller mech can take out a bigger, slow-moving one crops up across a broad range of mecha interpretations, from more realistic ones where a fast little walker shoots the weak points of a huge hulker all the way to gundam, where you have the Mk. II (and later Zeta) tangle with the Psycho Gundam and win. You might be slightly underselling the benefits, that handful of hitpoints (compounded by the heavier armor you can wear with it) is frequently the difference between survival and getting oneshotted by the Knuckle Kaiser (which is a larger but less maneuverable mecha than the norm at the start of this game, and a bit more normal in terms of size now that SOUL is in full swing and Paladins and Cavaliers have shown up). It also reduces the amount you need to pay for Space Efficiency, if you have it. If there wasn't a balance, there would be no need for smaller mecha like Bluegills and Harpies, it would just be more efficient to make Oliver-sized mecha equipped for and piloted by guys like Amos who can do the work of an entire squad.
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>>1040769
>>1040811
Oh... Sorry... I belive that it is Dodge>Antimissile>Imager instead, as it makes more sense...
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>>1040837
Yeah, I know that Dodge goes first, but I'm not sure if there is actually an official ruling about the others. Which is why I asked Wong.
>>1040811
If the Pharcyde wants to risk everything on one roll of the dice they are welcome to try.
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>>1040769
>Shadow Imager at +20
Wait... 16 form A-class... +2 from the logic processors... Where did the other two came from?
>>1040835
Huh, interesting...
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>>1040880
>Wait... 16 form A-class... +2 from the logic processors... Where did the other two came from?
You get a +1 for each image.
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>>1040890
And MV doesn't apply?
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>>1040769

I believe the Shadow Imager is used in place of a parry, not as a supplemental roll to it. They also work somewhat differently, and that's one of the reasons why they're good (unless there's statistics magic at work to explain why I'm full of shit). Let's say you and I are mecha pilots in a dogfight, and I roll really, really well to smack you with a beamsaber. Your dodge fails miserably, and even if you have a good parry pool it still has to beat my initial attack roll, which is quite high and thus likely to bypass your parry too. However, a Shadow Imager roll wouldn't have to beat my initial roll, it forces me to make an entirely NEW roll where I might very well roll miserably.

>>1040811

I thought this for a long time, but it's apparently wrong. Blasts cannot be parried except by a DA-0 or ADVANCED shield, which means that if it's the first attack of the turn (ignoring the shadow imager stuff because I'm not sure you get to both roll parry and roll for your imagers, as I said earlier in this post) targeting you your shield will automatically intercept.

>>1040772

Round it!

>>1040808

I have a personal distaste for multi-pilot mecha, it's just how I am. Your point about booster packs, though, is true. Consider the two we've seen so far.

The original S-Slayer on Auditorium with all of its prototype add-ons was tremendously heavy and awkward. One add-on was a Pod holding extremely powerful Range-0 mines, the other had boosters. It used the boosters to compensate for reduced speed caused by the weight of the add-ons and to get to Auditorium's hull quickly, burned the fuel up, and tossed them once it could detach and use the mines. This reduced its weight to the point where it could fight Roarke properly.

The other, the Oliver, was piloted by Duke Eustace de Rothschild-Beauchamps with his Paladin in full berserk mode, so even though it was heavy enough to be giving him penalties he didn't care and was still perfectly capable of fighting. As we all saw.
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>>1040908

Shadow Imagers force Intelligence-based rolls, not Reflex. Rosita, despite occasionally being a bit of an airhead and a bit spoiled and not as brainy as her rival Karen, is actually pretty intelligent, which is why she can get away with just using two images most of the time. She was absolutely enraged at Clemmy when they fought, you realize, angry enough to go 100% all-out and fight her completely seriously. That's very rare for her and a mark of utter respect, which is why I've been adamant that Clemmy didn't job and is also part of the reason why they're such good friends, Clemmy and Rosita greatly respect each other as pilots.
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>>1040944
>They also work somewhat differently, and that's one of the reasons why they're good (unless there's statistics magic at work to explain why I'm full of shit).
Its main real advantage is that most named aces have terrible stats to deal with this while any named ace with this specalty is probably really really good at it. Also, A Class crew get +16 to everything, so the Knuckle Kaiser actually has remarkably bad odds of fooling the shadow imager. (+15 to spot, +20, then +19 to trick).
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>>1040944
It would intercep a Blast missile AIMED at you.
But if the enemy just explode a missile into your hex, the rules states that you can't even parry.
Or that is at least what I think, I need to recheck the books to be sure... But Dutch-senpai spent some time speaking at lenght about it and he seems to have this sort of rivalry with Valkyrie-senpai(as they always get in "I would destroy you!" discussion everytime they remember about ir) so I think that he must have checked it.

And just for the record... The Idea of a multi-pilots Kaiser just don't appeal to me too...
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>>1040944
Some good points, though in the case of the valkyrie, it does still serve a purpose. Blocking the hit with the shield would mean that you could figure which one is real due to the AOE of the blast affecting the images. There is also the whole fact that sometimes you would really not want to block the blast. 20 kills of damage to the limb with the proposed AP variant? That part is gone. I do understand not liking multi pilots, but I have been one to enjoy my three man teams.
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>>1041017
To be fair, you can still shoot it down with the AMS.
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>>1040835
The balance should be in the cost rather than in a loss in fighting capability in almost every way. Big mechs should be stronger but more limited because they are terribly expensive. I haven't actually watched the series with psycho gundam but I imagine that the psycho gundam had no problem taking out plenty of smaller mooks and they beat it by being super badass rather than the psycho gundam being a bad shot. Being able to avoid being one shot doesn't mean much if you arent able to return attacks effectively.
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>>1041033
Thats missiles aimed at you, not necessarily the blast. One of the ways to get around that sort of thing.
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>>1040944
Can you use an Anti missile system to shoot down blast missiles that would damage you?
>>1040944
>I believe the Shadow Imager is used in place of a parry, not as a supplemental roll to it.
Technically, what the shadow imager says is that you may immediately deploy shadows instead of using a parry roll if you don't already have it on for some reason.
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>>1041012

It's the opposite, actually. You can't DODGE a missile exploded into your hex, and you can't PARRY without a DA-0 or Advanced (Active or Reactive) shield.
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>>1040635
>>1040712
What? How do I have one space? I know I forgot to list the spaces for the missiles, but I know they only take 6. 8+6+4 (cockpit and backup sensors) is only 18 and I have 22. (Or am I misunderstanding, and I don't need a weapon mount for the shield, so it would take up one space and still work? I assumed the 1 space rule was for arms, not torsos. The extra 2 CP would be useful for the storage and decor.) Even then I should still have 3 free space, right?

Wait, do you think I have all my thrusters in the torso? I have 17 space efficiency on the gun, it only takes 2 spaces and the main sensors take one . 8+2+1 is 11, they should fit.

>>1038174
>Thrusters 16 Spaces, 15.6 CP

>Head 8 thrusters
>Torso 8 thrusters

I added the missiles because as dutchman anon and you pointed out anyone could focus the head torso to destroy the only weapon on my mech. Wouldn't putting the missiles in the head go against the point of adding them?

And wouldn't mounting them take more CP than i have left since I only have 1.25?

I'm on break and don't get off until 12, so sorry if I don't reply for hours, I, I still need to eat. Saying I could wake up at 6 am earlier may have been optimistic... So maybe 12 hours or so from now, at 8 am EST? I don't know if EST is used in Brazil, the curve of the Earth is weird.

>>1040944
OK then, I was wrong earlier. I have .85 CP. Unless I need to round weapons too... I should have 1.1 then? I hope my mental math is right. Why can't code locks just be .5?
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>>1041038
>should

There's your problem. That's your preference, not a question of science or genre appropriateness. I also disagree intensely that it's a loss in fighting capability in almost every way, even a point or two of SP and additional Kills on a servo makes a massive difference. So far, we've seen plenty of larger mecha that were able to overcome a point or so of MV to rip through crowds of mooks in a way that even gundam normally doesn't do.

As for the Psycho Gundam, it had a huge chest array of beam cannons, so taking advantage of its size and avoiding it until Kamille could land a good hit or so.

The idea that more CP should always equal a bigger mech is silly to me, if that was the case every protagonist would have a Neo Zeong, Big Zam, or Mobile Armor equivalent rather than a Gundam.
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>>1041147
To be fair, the Big Zam has been a disappointment. Its been killed twice without destroying anything.
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>>1041166
Don't talk shit about Zammy, Fatima BTFO'd Jesus with it.
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>>1041166
Man you are just all kinds of wrong today aren't you? Considering both scenarios were the sort the Tarrasque are weak against, that does not mean it's bad machine. It's an artillery platform and not designed to handle up close heavy hitters. Against Jesus or hoards of enemies, it's much more effective.
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>>1040944
>The other, the Oliver, was piloted by Duke Eustace de Rothschild-Beauchamps with his Paladin in full berserk mode, so even though it was heavy enough to be giving him penalties he didn't care and was still perfectly capable of fighting. As we all saw.
Technically, the Paladin can also function as a turbocharger, even if that's horribly explained in the ATM.
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>>1041147
To be fair so far we have only seen ace badasses piloting heavier mechs and the one no name dude we saw in the tarrasque got wrecked. Like the bigro didnt have any problem hitting people, neither did the regnant, neo zeong or the bird thing from IBO. People took them down in smaller mechs because they were better than the other dude and often they had backup. The protagonists dont use mobile armours because they arent heroic enough to the japs.
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>>1041095
Okay.
>>1041104
Oh sorry, I forgot that you had split up the thursters between the torso and head, and yes stardart shields only take one spaces from any servo they are mounted on... See Page 45 of the ATM in the paragraph unde "Cost".
So yes, you're right, you should have 3 spaces on the torso, my mistake.

You're right about the missile positioning... I forgot abou this also, good call.

This "Mounted" in the name are referring to it being mounted inside the servo, not in a weapon mount... Just look at the format of the Rogue's Gallery.

But you could put the Beam Gun on a weapon mount to free more CP instead of making it occupy 2 spaces... But I don't think that you want the risk of receiving a crit and losing it.

About time... We seem to have a 3 hours difference from Rio to you, so it'll be 11 am for me here, but thats okay anon.

And I don't think that you need to round weapons too, as the examples of the Rogue Gallery doesn't seem to show that.

See ya later!
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I don't know if I should repost it, but here it is again, the Walkure:

http://pastebin.com/qBXNMGDw

I'm thinking on making 2 more missiles loadouts, an alternate custom missile and maybe alternate hands, but it would affect the weight... So I'm still considering it.

>>1041208
Any suggestions Dutch-senpai?
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>>1041649
Hmm.. I see that of your load outs, your actual number of missiles are low. It's not a bad idea to get cheaper, lighter missiles for longer battles(or for shredding armor to ribbons) as well as stuff like Incendiary. DoT bombs could be nasty even if it's only for slowly eating away it's armor. Also, why do you have no blast missiles? You talk of explosions, but I don't see a single blast missile!
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>>1041732
I dont think incendiary is actually an option for explosives. I think its just for projectile weapons.
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>>1041732
I'm considering putting the blast missile on the "Custom Heavy Missile" spot, but long battles for the walkure are more based on its hand-to-hand skills than EXPLOSION abilities, while the missiles are more focused in destroying entire limbs in a "last resource" manner to get an edge over more stronger adversaries or swiftly remove mooks that get in the way by severely crippling them with one or two missiles.
Ablating could certainly work too... But it would be useless for dealing with other oficcer mechs with Beta-Armor.
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>>1041784
They say that with AP, but I managed to figure out a way for that. Pretty sure I have been fighting with the ATM to point of insanity, but I have made progress when it comes to figuring things out. Also, napalm bombs.
>>1041911
A good point, though those missiles could also be used for anti ship combat too. Pull off what Oda did on a smaller scale and get tons of mega crits.
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Would it be better for me to decrease the Burst Value of the Libra's gun down to two, in exchange for Multifeed 3? This would decrease the weapon's potential damage output significantly, but allow it to have both Tracers, Grenades, and scattershot rounds.
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>>1041972
Just keep the feed low instead man. You can still have all those rounds, it just means you need a action to switch them. Burst and blast work impressively well together so lowering burst is a bad idea. Likewise, Trace rounds are useful for higher level bursts, not lower level ones.
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>>1041958
I'm just after looking at the ATM right now and I can confirm that there is no option for napalm bombs.
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>>1041972
Don't change it, Burst is more important.
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>>1042072
And see, that is why you are missing the point. There have been times where Wong will add things to others even when the book does not state it, like the active energy shield for the swordfish. Hell, the book itself states that this sort of thing is fine for making things. So I put that into affect. From the bonuses and non ammo comparisons we've seen, the majority of ammo multipliers are double their non ammo brethren so any ammo based ability can be reversed. Also, I was talking from a logical sense. You can have napalm bullets, but not napalm bombs. That is what I am poking at.
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>>1042015
>>1042101
Alright, keeping it the same, although I was mostly asking just to see what everyone else thought of the idea, I wasn't particularly sold on it either since nothing except for the ESTER is going to cover it's melee weakness.
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>>1042131
Logic has no place in a game about giant fighting robots.
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>>1042131
Actually, Active energy shields are possible. You just need to buy one with an attack factor.
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>>1042163
On the contrary, logic has everything to do with it. By using logic and understanding, I can find ways to FURTHER pervert and stretch such laws to produce ridiculous over the top results!
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>>1042346
Logically we would just be fighting with space ships and tanks
Or drones
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>>1042101
So, after thinking about it, I put this version of the Chimera together. Thoughts? http://pastebin.com/9zWeaHup Gonna switch over to my phone after this since I just found out that the enter key on the virtual keyboard is now broken.
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>>1041247
Alright, before I crash, I'm thinking of adding Storage Space, Micromanipulators, and a stereo (so Uaifu can watch model painting tutorials with surround sound.)

Though I do remember a "Cool Paintjob" option I can't find, since she paints models and painting her mech would fit very well, along with Design and Decor, which is killing me because I have that deja vu feeling of reading it somewhere, but I have no idea where and the 10 minutes I've already spent looking for it is making me nod off. Can you tell me where it is in the book? I'll post the (hopefully) final pastebin tomorrow.
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>>1041166
>>1041173
>>1041208

I did mention before that the Tarrasque you've seen is the prototype, right?
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>>1043631
But Wong this is Mecha Anime, the prototype is supposed to be leagues ahead of the MP version.
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>>1043640
Until they retcon it at least.
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>>1043643
There is also the Ghiren Greed Zabi Family Big Zam. If I recall, while it doesn't give as many bonuses from pilots, it makes up for it by being more ridiculous than most customs in terms of power.
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>>1043640
>MP

No. Let's just say someone wanted to make improvements to their Tarrasque. Improvements where I might have to actually scale it back because it slapped the 400 CP mark.
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>>1043648
>400 CP Big Zam.
The one you talked about before was at the 240ish mark, right? Thats 160 CP of improvements. Even if you use 20 for weight, thats still enough gun and shields to do crazy shenanigans with. Is the Archen getting souped up alongside the Flowerhorn and Betta?
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>>1043656

Somehow I grossly undercosted the 360-degree beam emitter, it should honestly be more than it is on the pastebin.
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>>1041247
>>1042774
Alright, I was forced to go shopping with my family at the Mall.

Also that Cool Paintjob and Design was actually from the Stardust CYOA. I've been reading the quest based off of it (it's a shame it died, I'm still hoping the QM can come back) and that's where I was remembering that from.

http://pastebin.com/PPJxjU4B

I guess the moral of the story is pic related.
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>>1044274
Ahhh yes, that thing does get quite expensive. 9x modifiers are a bitch to deal with and the space efficiency tax is close to 1.5x if you want to keep it small. Lowering range slightly might help with that as would some accuracy skim. What sort of upgrades do you have in mind? Standard across the board upgrades?
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>>1044844
Dropping rang is a good idea, because by RAW it has to make an attack against anyone within its maximum range, which makes avoiding friendly fire nearly impossible.
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>>1044844
>>1044274
Incidentally, what is your thoughts on one of the bigger energy pools with a 2 weapon portfolio consisting of a 20 kill beam and a possibly chargable wide angle hex beam? With a charge time of 1 and 0 WA, it should be a 12 kill beam for that classic zammy experience. Only 45 CP and 6.5 tons too!
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>>1042547
Wait.
First, There is no need to 1,5 Space efficiency points on your sword to make it go from 6 spaces to 3, 1 point making it go to 4 should be sufficient as your arms got 5 spaces and you are only using one of each of the for thursters.
Second, your thurster cost is wrong, as you should round it to the nearer whole number, so its 14CP, not 15.
...And that means that you could make the sword have only 5 Spaces to economize CP and install the thurster in the other arm.
Third, Please specify in which arm your sword is mounted, this is important in the case of you losing one of them.
Fourth, You don't seem to have more spaces in which to equip those booster packs... So they should be externally mounted, what means that they don't occupy spaces, so that 1.2 CP of space efficiency on them doesn't makes sense anymore, and don't have weight... So you should forget those 4 tons.

And before I forget, remember that EMW have special rules regarding parry, and that the +1DMG from your servo class won't help in this sense, so it would be able to parry only other melee attacks of 4K and below OR the leftover damage from a stronger attack would go through it to your arm and shutdown your weapon for the rest of the turn... What is specially bad against linked attacks.
But it isn't exactly a bad choice, as the only problem would be its low Kills rating.

>>1044381
Okay... Anon, just don't forget that there is a reason why people sleep, okay?

>look at the pastebin name

Seriously Mai onee-san... Just... just take a break okay?

But this is looking seriously good... It has 3 Emergency missiles, a good enough big gun capable of one shooting Medium-Strikers servos, an MV just one point higher than the normal for agile jovian mecha, and even all sort of those small add-ons like a Deluxe-Lock, stereo, and Nightlights...

I say that this could be a seriously usefull mecha to work as a mobile artillery piece either for defense or for raiding, as its torso storage and micromanipulators could be used either to repairs and grunt work or to raid stuff after a first wave of more melee capable mechs press the enemy away from the target.

Also, you forgot to account that because of your new weight, you can leave just 4 points in Weight reduction instead of 6 to have that sweet -4MV, what leave you with 2CP to use.

We both know that the 20MA booster pack is the best option... But we also know what the cooler option is: Design & Decor 1CP with a externally mounted 10MA booster pack.

Or you could go full crazy for that +3 Cool of the 2CP version of Design & Decor.

Well, here you have your "cool paintjob" anon, go crazy with it and make us proud with your description!

>>1045010
Opinions on this? Dutch-senpai?

>>1044988
THIS

We can't have the tarraque friendly-firing everione everytime it gets mobbed by mooks, effective range should be 6 or 8, no more than this, as it will still make -4 attack rolls against everything on its max range anyway.
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>>1045269
Also, the Chimara could be a good opponent for the Buddy, Imagine the two of them going into a "Katar vs Beam-Sword" fight! It would be awesome.
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>>1045269
I slept enough, like 9 hours (better than the 6 I usually give myself anyway.) I added the options/made that entire post at 2 pm after I got home from shopping. My time, so around 11 and 5 for you. I just got lazy when I named it, I used all my creativity on Rolling Thunder 2: Electric Boogaloo.

This post >>1042774 was right after I got home though.

>weight
I always leave myself some margin for error, just in case I mess something up and can't come back to fix it, like what happened before Wong took that week long break.

I guess I stand corrected on the design and decor though, since that is in the book. Where's it at?
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>>1045269
Oh yeah, I'm going to look into that booster pack. I didn't want to learn an entirely new concept yesterday, but I'll have time now.
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>>1045406
Stat Enhancement, page 57.
It takes 1 Space and costs 0.5, 1, or 2CP depending on how much Cool you want.

You already have Cool 8, so +2 would put you in Roarke levels.

Cool 11 is almost Duke Kirito-level of badassness, but goodbye boosterpacks.

Your choice though, and good luck with that, I'm back in 2 hours or so.
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>>1045445
>Stat enhancements
Ooohhh, I've just been skipping over that. Damn, I feel pretty silly now. Especially because I read through it before.

A 20 MA boosters sound more useful than that though, where do they go in the layout? I'm guessing after thrusters and weight efficiency, but I want to be sure.
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>>1045269
In general? The ideas seem solid and I do agree that it'd be a pretty good artillery piece more mobile machines will be a problem as will machines with multiple parts. For low level enemies you will be taking out something each hit, but you would have a 20% chance of actually taking them out fully on a clean hit. It'll also have problems against more defensive types like the Valkyrie.
Also, been looking at the Zam Wave Motion Gun idea; If charging is not Wong's cup of tea, a decrease in accuracy or giving it 9 shots would do. Why 9? Because the standard gun can still work so long as there is one shot left. In addition, if you take a accuracy hit AND give it 1 shot, your one shot would do 18 kills. With fatima and some time to aim, that is very likely to take the arm off of a defending pumpkinseed II.
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>>1045581
>the idea
My idea was to do the exact opposite of the smaller, humanoid mechs everyone else was doing. The fact that it COULD be competitive is reason enough for me to celebrate.
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>>1045619
Oh I know. For all the beef I have with this system, at times it does produce good balance. So long as they are in the same CP category, there is a good chance to beat them with some planning. Defensive types, offensive types, even the crazier machines can prove effective in their own way and while generalists are usually laughed at, Amos proves how amazing a generalist build can get.
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>>1045445
Now with less grammatical errors.
http://pastebin.com/9gtQar2j
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>>1045269
Thanks for reviewing the Chimera, but I need to clear up some rules confusion. Firstly, hands take up space as shown here, split between pages 54 and 55 of the core book. Secondly, that isn't space efficiency on the boosterpacks, that's a cost modifier due to max boost. The sidebar is typo'd and the paragraph describing max boost clarifies this. Hopefully I've fixed everything.
http://pastebin.com/XzmpyR3c
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>>1046318
core rulebook hands tend to be really simple things. 1 kill melee weapons with quick and handy and 1 space efficiency to not take up two spaces. You can make better hands with the advance technical manual as shown with roarke
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>>1046361
Yes, but that's the reason behind making my sword take as many spaces as it does. I need that last space for a hand mount.
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>>1046386
Think we are missing something here. First off, how big a weapon you can use is not decided by the EMPTY spaces you have, but by how many spaces TOTAL your arms have. You have 5 spaces a arm. 10 total. That is how many spaces you can hold. Second, that multiplier for the boosterpacks only affect the balance modifer. NOT the CP cost. Third, B.Mod is not the same as Weight. In terms of pushback and the like, it can be, but not for things like 'how heavy the machine is for MV and MA'. Don't go over a value of 1 mind you if you don't want to take penalties though.
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>>1046460
His sword is arm mounted rather than handheld.
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>>1046464
I know that. I see what the issue was there with communication. So here's another question. The CP for each booster should be 5, not 6.5 since the B.Mod does not affect CP. You would still have 3 cp total. Use that 3 cp to put your gun into your other arm. Should make it much more effective since if you are two handing the gun, you would not be able to properly use the beam saber in your other arm.
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>>1046507
>armored core
>arm mounted guns
Those things are never worth it. Plus he can always just ditch the gun for a bit.
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>>1046460
The sentence under max boost reads "The entry under cost modifies the base cost of the Boosterpack as determined by MA Points." Literally says nothing about the balance modifier.
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>>1046507
>>1046543
And of course they took the lazy way out with their example mecha and only gave it a +5 max boost.
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>>1046543
Yeah, they worded that wonky. Look at the chart beside the words. Notice how it says the Balance modifier instead of the costs modifier? That is what I am pointing at. Your cost would not go up, but your balance would. So that 2.5 would be 3.25.
>>1046533
Then use the 3 CP to get it down to a one hander instead of inserting it. I bet you don't even tank builds or chicken legs.
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>>1046595
>implying I dont run exclusivly with dual shoulder mounted gatling guns
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So, if you guys were making a flying Mobile Armor, would you make it a Corvette (just a big fighter) or give it tank form because Mobile Armor is known to be resilient? I'm torn because Corvette makes thematic sense, but the required 4 hex move isn't since a lot of mobile armors can hover.
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>>1046645
Corvettes are super expensive arent they?
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>>1046659
Under the Mech Form rules in plus book it's just lumped in with Fighter form.
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>>1046659
Wait, scale rules. Forgot. I'm keeping it a tank then.
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>>1046645
I would probably give it a hybrid for instead, as you still get a massive MA boost without the annoying mandatory movement.
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>>1046683
Eh, I'm looking for the most thematic form. There's no way this thing is being used, it costs almost as much as the Swordtail. I'm just making it for fun.
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Alright, all this technicle talk is leaving me with all kinds of questions.

First, are we allowed to make cheaper hands?

Second,>>1045269
You sure about that? I thought we always had to round up (I.E. 13.2 for 8MA needed 14 CP worth of thrusters) If not that I can maybe make my mech a little bit faster.

Third, >>1046460
Holy shit, you're right. I'll be able to shave a CP off my gun's cost now!.
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>>1046712
>hands
I'm guessing you can make custom hands, but they have to have the "Handy" rule to actually be used as hands, though you likely already know that.

>thrusters
Brazil asked here >>1040772 if you round up or down or to the nearest whole number and Wong said here >>1040944 "Round it!" so I (and Brazil I'm pretty sure) assumed that means to the nearest whole number
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>>1046736
So would, say, 1kill -2WA Handy "hands" for .45 CP be tourney legal, or would that be too munchkiny?
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>>1046692
Then I think that you're kind of stuck with Corvette unless you're okay being land-bound.
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>>1046763
I'd assume so, since you can make them with the rules. Wong would have to have the final say if you really wanted to be sure.
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>>1046712
First, YES, this isn't new... But it has consequences, as you become even more dependant on your weapons.

Second, I believe that Wong has said that many threads ago, and as >>1046736 it makes more sense that way.

Third, dutch is right on this, look at the book.

Four... Which mech is your mech?

>>1046763
Wong may decide in a manner of punishing you about this like making your hands apply -2WA in every weapon and incapable of using the quick propriety of melee weapon... So I wouldn't risk it.
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>>1046712
No problem. Now excuse me for a moment. I want to work on the Kaiser thrown and start designing missiles with Handy on them to make the machine throw actual rocket punches.
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>>1046767
Guess it's time to learn the Scale rules then...
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>>1046795
Why do something so awkward and reliant on breaking the rules when you can just add thrown to regular hands? Can even make them returning.
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>>1046786
The Libra.

I'm hoping after all this I'll be able to save enough CP to either get the sensor upgrade I want, or make my mech much faster.
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>>1046815
I'd say make it faster. Standard sensors have a 700 km range after all.
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>>1046795
..Kestrel Throne. Why did it go to thrown? >>1046808
Because the rules for thrown weapons are weird and I may be saving that for extendo fists using entangle and 20 kills.
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all this technical talk... maybe i'll try and make a mech that has ALL THE MISSLES
or see If I can make a mech break 30 MA
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>>1046819
By sensor upgrade I meant a target analyzer. Seems it would fit for a mech reliant on a modular weapon.

But few can resist the allure of gotta go fast, and my resolve is weakening.
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>>1046799
>all stats are modified by x10
>cost is modified by x25
I suppose a mega heavy fighter would still be pretty large...
I really misunderstood the rules for size.

>>1046842
Oh yeah, that could help. If you mean MA, I would check to see if you can get the MV down first. though if you're at -2 already that wouldn't matter.
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>>1046786
Hopefully this is the last time this thread I'll have to post this.
http://pastebin.com/1nqwW955
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>>1046858
Mecha size rules?
See the basic form of cloaking... But if I'm remembering right, its Torso kills x 1.5.

So your tank? 33meters.

Yeaaaaaaaaaah, this is crazy.

And I know nothing about this corvette rule... Is it for Roadstriders? Or just mech forms? I think that a Tank works more better for a Mobile Armor, if not "humanoid" because of their normal shenanigans.

>>1046901
I'm a little occupied right now... But just by looking... That space reduction for the gun was just desnecessary.... And you could have paid 1.75 on space reduction on the sword, if you care about decimals...

Also, good idea of making it 5K... But does that compesates for the weight increase?

And please... just make the Boosterpack a "100MA, Max Boost +10" instead already, there is no reason not to.
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>>1046901
>Hopefully this is the last time this thread I'll have to post this.
Oh sweet child of summer. It is never over.
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>>1046963
KEK
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>>1046901
>>1046959
There is a reason to make a single 100 MA booster though. I checked the math because I was wondering why not to have a single one, and because you rounded you added 0.01 B-Mod. It's insignificant though.

The scaling rules are for anything, but now that I've looked at the rules, I think their title (Roadstriker, Corvette, Starship etc.) just tells you generally how large it is. So you could make a starship sized roadstriker, or a roadstriker sized starship.

I need to fix the booster on the Thunder, by the way. Instead of making a new pastebin, could you make the booster stats

>Booster Pack: 20 MA Points, Max Boost +5, B-Mod .1, 2 CP, 2 K

so you don't have to look over an entirely new pastebin?
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>>1046986
Make it "Max Boost +20" because you only receive the penalty on B-mod=1 or more.
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>>1046993
Ah, OK. So it's

>Booster Pack: 20 MA Points, Max Boost 20, 2 CP, 2 K
then?
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>>1047002
Its okay now, but add [Externally mounted] before the rest.
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>>1047002
Also... Just make a pastebin account already, and stop making new ones for every interation of your mech.

Plus, that way is easier for us to see other mechs you make from your account info.
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>>1047010
I always forget to do that. Sorry.
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>>1047015
Alright, mom.
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>>1047021
>mom
I-I....I was just trying to help...
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>>1047027
I know.
I just liked thinking up self-depreciating names.
Also Uaifu bullies Akai. I'm just trying to get into character.

Here's the Tournament Mech:
http://pastebin.com/i3eGDZyd

And for fun I put the mobile armor in a paste too:
http://pastebin.com/hvUk7Xi0
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>>1047057
Its okay to go.
And you're asking for another paintjob...OR A CURSE!BOOOOOOOO~!
>>1046901
Now I will give yours a look.

>>1046963
Hey, Dutch:

KAISER MP:
http://pastebin.com/4MitdTZU

Custom Knight(Even cheaper than the normal knight!):
http://pastebin.com/QACVeehk

Could you give me some opinions on this?

Other people can give it a look too, I would appreaciate it.
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>>1047057
I just noted that you still have 0.5 CP... That could be used to buy Design & Decor!

What do you think?
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>>1047057
Also, you forgot to mention that your missiles have WA+3...
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>>1047135
Let's see.. don't think for tourney mechs can have beta armor so scrap that and give it more thrusters so it can do more than hop aggressively.

As for the Kaiser MP, I see you are keeping to the 225 limit so it's easy to make. Good on you there. Now, if we can get the tech I recommend replacing those hands with a 20 cp morphable energy pool. 25 for each hand, but you only need to mate them once so that saves 8 cp right there and they are both lighter and sturdier. It also improves the power of your non entangling weapons too.
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>>1047176
Hmm... Well, I figured out that you can have multiple spot lights and night lights, would a extra night light be more useful than the +1 Cool?

Wait, the question I should be asking is, can I think of a good enough paintjob having another night light wouldn't be better? I'll try to think one up, if not I'm adding a night light.

>>1047199
I don't even know how I did that. I went over the entire thing twice.
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>>1047199
Also, what did Wong call the Not!Internet? The extranet?
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>>1047207
Not really, no. Have a possible Evil Paladin Roarke for your troubles. Apparently he violates his enemies. Still thinking of making a less organic version of that throne.
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>>1047223
I may have found my paintjob.

The D.VA custom.
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>>1047206
>The "No Beta Armor" Meme
>Again
>After All these Threads
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YOU OPRESSOR JOVIAN NORMATIVE NORMIEEEEEES GO BACK TO YOUR DYING SYSTEM AND OUT OF MY PLANET REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Wong allowed it for Avalonians because their Loriette hav it on her mech and it makes sense that her mechanics would use it against the jovians if the need appeared

Good reccomendations for the Kaiser though, but I made it with a more "making it today" mentality in the case you guys wanted to go along with it.

>>1047220
Holonet, if I'm not mistaken.
Also, the Not!4chan is GYchan, and he explained the boards some thread ago.

>>1047247
Thats...Pretty ironic assuming that you got angry with the cute animu paintjob...
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>>1047135
http://pastebin.com/8mf1BAvD
I'm sorry, Brazil. I can't seem to stop wasting your time.
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>>1047295
Yeah, that's the point. I'm just stealing the Sinanju paintjob, except black's the primary and red's the secondary, since the Kestrel's main color is black. It should already be in the paste.

http://pastebin.com/i3eGDZyd
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>>1047295
True, but for each action you move 2 MA. The space tank moves further than you at full tilt when he only goes a single action. THE SPACE TANK BR. With your melee weapon and limited ammo, your machine is fodder to the majority since most weapons go past 4 kills here.
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>>1047314
>space tank
Well... you're not wrong.
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>>1047318
apologies. I just tend to go with nick names rather than their actual names unless they stick to my head. Took me a while to properly remember the majority of the cast.
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>>1047342
No, no, I liked it. It was funny. It is a tank in space after all. I just wanted to use the meme.
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>>1047303
>tfw you are reviewing a sheet and the guy just sends you another without even letting you finish.
Seriously anon?
>>1047309
Wait... So you aren't using the D.va paint.... huh...

>>1047314
I move 200m, and I don't even need to, as I outrange the tank and can outshoot it.
But it wasn't really intended for the Tourney, but for being the absolute bane of anything that isn't a Pumpkinseed II, and even giving problems to the last one should it appears.
In the tourney though... It would just trade fire with someone until one of them dies, or get one-shoted by Valkyre/Huskarl/Lightning.... As it is more an Elite Mook than a low-tier officer mech.
Oh, and about it faring against jovian mooks... The only wait for them to hurt is by missiles(who have limited ammo and will get 4 shots to their users before even getting into firing range) or by melee, in which the jovian mechs will be at disadvantage and getting down in 2 hits to the torso.
Cool, isn't it?
...And the full version would be Knight level of CP and have MA8, so they would be a little better in that regard.
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>>1047383
>The only way for them to hurt it is by*
Fixed
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>>1047401
do we have a full list of participants now? I want to make sure my entry got in.
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>>1047412
Not an official one.
But Wong was using mine as an approximation:
http://pastebin.com/pZtRmbWS
Are you in?
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>>1047383
That actually looks a lot like the pic I got the paintjob from. Just not as chunky.
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>>1047420
nope, not in there, I got to making a mech kinda late but i've posted it a few times
http://pastebin.com/4eGrhtyW
the M-Sagiser, a murderbird cassowary thing with beam sweepers and a nasty kick
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>>1047436
Oh... so thats you.
I was review everything to make sure the CP account is okay before posting it there.
Well... Mostly, now I don't remember if I checked Myrm/Huskarl and Lightning, so I may have to do that again...
Or it may be just me getting paranoid after so many mechs...
Anyway... Let me just get the Tank and Chimera in there and I will check yours, okay?

>>1047430
Man, can you format your pastebin more like the Rogue's Gallery? And leave the CP accouting between "(...)"? It would make it more easier to read and take less space from the Gallery.

>>1047303

>[L. Arm-Mounted] Emergency Missile: Range: 687.5m, WA+1, 10K (1K in structure), 1 Ammo, 1.46 CP, 1.46 Spaces, 0.5 ton
Interesting...

>Total Weight: 34.7 (39.7) tons
No need to account the booster packs, as they are externally mounted, don't worry.
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>>1047436
You need to list the total CP cost and weight of your armor after you list it all out.

You round thrusters to the nearest whole number, so they actually cost 16.

>>1047457
Alright, I've tried to bum it off people here, sorry that I messed it up. I'll reformat it.
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>>1047457
>I was review
Ouch, my english capabilities are shutting-down again!
Okay... Maybe its time to start making preparations for going to bed.

I'll take a little break now guys, brb in an hour or so to make last comments for this night before going to bed.
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>>1047464
http://pastebin.com/TZLEgpGw
this should be formatted right now
being at exactly 140 cp is ok right?
If I need to make another paste I'll just make an account I guess
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>>1047497
oh wait should I move the talons into the body frame section since they're the mechs feet?
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>>1047497
Uh, I might not be the best voice since my formatting is shit.

What I'm doing is going into the pastebin here >>1047420 and cppying the layout of "Ze Walkure" since Brazil made it. You don't have to specify no arms though.

>>1047507
I'm 90% certain feet can only be mounted on leg servos.
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>>1047513
>I'm 90% certain feet can only be mounted on leg servos.
yeah so do I put them in the body parts section or the weapon section? I guess bodyparts then... time to make a pastebin account then.
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>>1047529
I'm going to skim though Brazil's paste to see what other people have done.
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>>1047529
Nobody else has used foot weapons, as far as I can tell.

Also, I have no idea how the base Mekton book made those feet. They weigh 1 ton less that what they should (meaning they should cost as much CP in weight efficiency as they do total) but 2 CP base cost is wrong because they should cost 1.75 CP. You may want to ask Wong if they're legal next thread if you haven't already, since their total cost (going by the Zeta Plus rules) should actually 3.5 CP more.
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>>1047529
Just list them in the weapons section.
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>>1047468
By the way Brazil, where'd the 1 Ton of weight from the options on Za Walkure come from? Does servo linking weigh 1 Ton? Haven't gotten to learning that yet.
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>>1047565
the foot talons are just regular 3K 1.5 ton talons with the stats of the free default foot(2K 0 spaces 0 weight) added to them is my guess.
>>1047579
I'll just leave that last pastebin as is then
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>>1047468
>>1047584
Wait, that's from the sensors. Missed those.

Anyway, finished the reformat.
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>>1047592
Anon, I think that I remember something about feet having special rules or something, but you may to change things depending on what I discover...
But don't worry about it yet, there is still people on the line before you.
>>1047640
You're in, check the pastebin.

>>1047303
I'm looking at you Chimera-kun, lets see what we've got here...
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>>1047866
Sweet. You're doing god's work Brazil. Thanks.
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>>1047868
>the sun is up.
>I had no sleep.
>I'm doing math for strangers on the internet.
>for free.
>on 4chan.
>while we exchange animu pics.
God works in such strange ways...

Also, almost done on the Chimera, just writing some suggestions for him/her.
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>>1047902
I mean, if you want animu, I have animu.

I also have a mp4 of a Filthy Frank anime opening that I can't post because it's an mp4 and 12 MB. I can confirm it is near the top in the "meme dankness chart" though.
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>>1047303
Your math is right.
Also, when I noticed that you calculate even the centesimals... I started clapping, on the silence of the morning as the sun came up, just staring into my screen and watching how far people can go just for munchkinery...
And I was proud.
I finally had found my place in the universe... And it was beautiful...
Then I remembered that I was in 4chan and everything made sense again.

A-Anyway...
You seem to have 0.16CP to go anon, and do you know what that means?

Missile time!

See the reply to this comment.

Anons, if you can, please suggest your best emergency missiles up to 1.62CP for our anonfriend, as I will try to do my best too and would appreaciate your help.

But seriously... 9.99Spaces!? This guy deserves a prize.
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>>1047913
>that filthy frank video
That is just gold.

But thats okay anon... I'm in the mood for mechas now... And even if I know that not sleeping today will probably be a bad choice, I don't know when I will get back here and want to at least finish with the chimera before going to sleep.

But when I think of what I'm doing, I understand that a few years ago I would never imagine being here and doing this...
But thats okay.
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>>1047943
So, I was looking at the book once more. Seems that unless the missile directly hits them the anti missile system won't activate. So, I made something interesting when Active shields serve as auto 0 DA shields as well. Make one Cracker grenade out of 3 for a 15 kill grenade. I call it the grand cracker. It is a sinful little toy but it certainly has potential. After all, taking it on the shield means all the damage is concentrated. All 15 AP damage.
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>>1047931
I had the idea of WA 0, 4 K, 450 Meter Range, AP missiles. They cost .8 CP each and SHOULD have the same damage statistics against Heavy Striker armor as 6 K missiles.

>>1047943
Pic related. I never thought I'd be making a hovering tank piloted by a Muslim named Mai Uaifu either.

On a different note, since you said my tank should be 33 meters long, and iirc tanks work best at a 1/2.something.4 ratio for length/width/height my tank should be somewhere around 8-10 meters long and 8.4 meters tall.
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>>1047991
>1/2.something.4 ratio
That should be 1/2.something/4 ratio
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>>1047931
>[L. Arm-Mounted] Emergency Missile: Range: 600m, WA+1, 12K (1K in structure), 1 Ammo, 1.56 CP, 1.56 Spaces, 0.5 ton
>[L. Arm-Mounted] Emergency Missile: Range: 250m(Irrelevant because of max range of 2450m), Long Ranged, WA-2, 15K (1K in structure), 1 Ammo, 1.5 CP, 1.5 Spaces, 0.5 ton.
>[L. Arm-Mounted] Emergency Missile: Range: 275m, WA+3, 10K (1K in structure), 1 Ammo, 1.5 CP, 1.5 Spaces, 0.5 ton
>[L. Arm-Mounted] Emergency Missile: Range: 550m, WA+2, 10K (1K in structure), 1 Ammo, 1.6 CP, 1.6 Spaces, 0.5 ton
>[L. Arm-Mounted] Emergency Missile: Range: 487.5m, WA+1, 14K (1K in structure), 1 Ammo, 1.6 CP, 1.6 Spaces, 0.5 ton
I don't know what exactly you'd want from an emergency missile, and there is even a option for a long ranged "If it hits its going to wreck him" type.
So I'm just letting you choose here, or come up with something better.
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>>1047991
Oh, while I am awake, I looked at the errata out of curiosity. Seems Tanks have an extra -1 to their MV. Sooo your tank would be at -5 actually. Still good for what it is mind you.
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>>1048014
Already factored it in. It's 38 tons and at -3 MV without tank form.
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>>1048018
No. I mean that the tank form would be at -5 even at a 3. Two -1s is -2. Though it is up to Wong. Some of the Errata is weird and I may need to do some adjustments if some of the stuff is true along with some apologies.
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>>1048044
Wait, what? Why? It's always a tank, why would it being in tank form stack twice?
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>>1048048
No, the penalty for being a tank would be -2 instead of -1. That is what I am getting at.
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>>1047991
So... They do the same damage of an 6K missile, but cost one third more....
It could be good for blast or keeping the weight down, but not to just exploding things.

Ex-Muslim, and soon to be weeaboo, just you wait until Akai show Girls und Panzer to her.
Its amazing on how this sort of weird things seems to just happen through life... And I wonder where it will lead us...
And about your tank, can you find a tank of close proportions for ilustration? I'm curious about it now.

>>1048014
First, you made me panic into thinking that there was a third book I didn't even read yet.
Please don't do that again.
...Then I just looked and noticed that the errata was in the end of this book...
I think that I need some serious sleep...

>>1048044
I don't think that they mean it that way... But I'm not in shape to worry about it now, just please don't make Mai Uaifu panic at it unnecessarily... Imagine if he decides to change things around even more! thats its, I'm going to sleep, goodnight(evening/morning) to you guys...
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>>1048053
>>1048054
Well, back into the pits of hell.

Also, the M1 Abrams is a good example. It's dimensions are almost the same, but in feet. 32 feet vs 33 meters (which is something like 108 feet if you convert it.)
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>>1048054
Ahhh, I see the fault there. My mistake. Would be weird if they managed to get it wrong twice. Sorry for the panic attack, I think I need sleep too. Bloody weird errata. Drives me to drink.
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>>1048067
Oh, it's correcting the original book... That's good. I always thought it was weird a mechatank's only drawback is not getting arms or legs in the base game. +2 SP is really good.

Though I have to say, it's kinda sad that the book is confusing enough for a a simple misunderstanding like that to be plausible.
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Okay, so I wasn't able to shave off enough CP to get a Target Analyzer like I wanted, but I was able to bring my MA up to 10, and install a torso storage module.

so have another Libra Pastebin. Someone might want to double check it, though to see if I missed anything.

http://pastebin.com/W7RqfkZY
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>Go to sleep after six hours of mecha-making
>Dream about a mecha Tourney.
>Wake up stating said mecha from said Tourney.
>Saw this amazing weapon Idea in the dream, but its too CP ineffective seriously use.
>mfw
>>1048067
>>1048082
Don't make me panic again.
Seriously.
>>1048107
>another Libra Pastebin
>another Libra
>another
I'm leaving this one for Dutch for a while, as I promised that I would look at the Bird first.
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>>1048107
>TFW anyone of the CROWE weapons cost almost 3X the CP than The Wraith has left to buy weapons after adding additional cost of the stealth systems to them
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>>1048369
Ahhh, so this is my penance. Well it checks out so far. With that little bit of cp left get some spotlights so you can see shit. Or don't and get some design and decor. Up to you.
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>>1048054
>First, you made me panic into thinking that there was a third book I didn't even read yet.
Mekton Zero is the third book, and its going to come out soon. Supposedly.
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>>1048925
But will it allow us to make super robots?
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>>1048925
Bullshit, you're lying.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1888572386/mekton-zero
>$30,000 over goal
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>>1048939
And so the great pit of madness grows ever deeper.
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>>1048963
It really does never end.

I'm probably going to buy the book after it comes out if people say it's laid out better and less confusingly worded than vanilla and Plus though.
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>>1048974
May have to belay that. Seems this kickstarter is years old. Might not come out.
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>>1048991
Yeah, that got me worried but they're still dropping updates. The last one was the 12th. It's why I haven't pledged yet, it looks like it's in a weird sort of limbo.
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>>1048107
Crap, just noticed a very minor error in the pastebin.

Accidentally left the shield hand-held instead of mounted to the left arm.
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>>1049264
Welp, Br is going to be crying, though I don't really mind if it's handheld or not so long as it has the spaces for it. Hell, hand held shields also have their uses. Like throwing them away when the thing is down to a few SP or switching arms so it doesn't get destroyed.
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>>1049295
it's mostly only going to be a problem with the Sniper configuration, since you can't two hand a gun if you're holding a shield.
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>>1049310
True, but that could be more an alternate as opposed to a constant. Besides that, the sniper has 10 shots and no back up weaponry. Might be a good idea to trim costs somewhere to either get more ammo or more bang for your buck. After all, that accuracy penalty really hurts burst.
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>>1049404
>Besides that, the sniper has 10 shots and no back up weaponry

That's true for all of the configurations, though, and I'm less worried about the snipers lack of backup weapons since it's not supposed to be anywhere near whatever it's aiming at.

And at this point I don't want to make any more adjustments to the mech, since it's so close to the Space Jam.
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>>1048011
So, after playing around with these modifiers, I found my perfect emergency missile.
http://pastebin.com/3d6RqKGV
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>>1049495
>And at this point I don't want to make any more adjustments to the mech, since it's so close to the Space Jam.
Boy I am still working on improving the F-type since it can only have 4 load outs. Also because I am crazy and keep developing small little improvements for the thing. It truly has become a mad man's shining project.
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>>1050722
I'm going to help you with layout stuff, since I don't trust my grasp on the rules enough to offer any advice. You'll need to go to Dutchman anon or Brazil for that.

You need to list the total cost and weight of the unarmored frame, the armor and the sensors/options, it makes it easier to check the math. Just copy paste (36 CP, 15 Tons) on the line after the servos, (30 CP, 15 Tons) after armor and (9.8 CP, 2 Tons) after the options.

You forgot to list the range of both your sensors, 7km for your main and 1km for the backup.

I guess Brazil didn't tell you because getting something to 9.99 spaces IS pretty impressive, but for simplicity's sake when you have fractional spaces you round them up to a whole number, since it's assumed if you take up part of a space, you take up that entire space. So the A.R.C takes 10 spaces, and the Missile takes 2.

Also, unless B-Mod is 1 or greater, it has no effect. So if you want, you can change the maximum turn boost of your booster to +10 and it would still have no effect since it would only be 0.8
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Lads, I may have redpilled someone too hard. Hoping I'm wrong but /tg/ hands out site wide daybans like candy for "off topic posting" if you defend right wing politics. If I'm not posting the new thread before 9pm EST tomorrow, game resumes Tuesday.
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>>1048939

This worries me because it might mean remaking everything. Or we'll use it for gen2.
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>>1051269
Wong this is like the 3rd time.
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>>1051269
Maybe everybody should just keep their agendas to themselves
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>>1051269
wong pls.

Use some proxy for your /pol/ shitposting.
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>>1051280
Looks like it's backwards compatable so it seems more adding things than a complete rework. Also, before I go any further with the Cracker Grenade; Armor Piercing Missiles; They allowed?
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>>1051309
If that were the case, we wouldn't be on qst to start with. There's been heavy pushes for years now to shove this and that into containment boards. This is a case of further extremism.
>>1051269
Still. always a good idea to keep away from that hug box. It has certainly been going down hill fast since the push here.
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>>1051440
>hug box
I thought /tg/ was turning more into /v/ really
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>>1051452
V isn't doing too hot there as well. The major push for the last two years and the general attitude has caused a good number to leave and for the variety to dwindle. Generals everywhere but no real new content or creation is done. Central ideas are enforced and reinforced and saying otherwise ends badly. Its not a good sign for a community and in some cases banter is punished severely.
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>>1051283

It boils down to >>1051440

In the old days, all of 4chan was a place where you could speak your mind and call out bullshit. Correcting someone who spewed incorrect facts wasn't a bannable offense. Nowadays, on /tg/, on /co/, on certain other boards, it is.

Like I said, we'll see what happens.
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Just came back from a bar next to the beach... Looking at sea and leting the ATM madness slowy go away...

I Don't know if I get much work done today, but I'll try to search everyone's mechs for opportunity for improvement before the Tourney comes, so we can have the best Tourney possible.

And I ask you guys to help me with it in any way you can, if you can, as I don't have time to review everything alone again and again... So if you could go to the Space Jam pastebin and check for errors, it would help.
Any questions you can come to me as always.

>>1050722
I'll give it a look tonight

>>1050995
>Listing frame, armor and options
it helps rechecking, but isn't really necessary if you don't want to, check the Rogue's Gallery.
I Would reccomend, though.
>sensors
Thats right
>Rounding spaces
Depends on Wong, he can let it that way if he wants to... And after the "9.99Spaces" I would let it alone too.

>B-mod
It took some time for me to learn it and confirms, and it would be harder if not for the help of Dutch-senpai(Who isn't really Dutch, he is from Poland if I'm not mistaken) and I'm happy that you guys have already learn to do it without problems.
Because that thing almost made me panic at least 2 times.

>>1051269
Sometimes, I man must do what I man must do, and I respect you for that.
But in another hand... Can we really save someone by dropping redpills on /tg/?
>>1051280
>remaking everything
>mfw is pic related.
.....
When the time comes, just call Dutch and leave that for us, and you'll just have to check it... But I don't really think that they are going to many things anyway, as they seem more worried about "muh Algol" than with the system in this book.
>>1051283
>>1051309
Let the guy alone... The fate of western civilization is more important than our loved mecha rpg of 4chan.
>>1051312
Do this really work?

>>1051440
>>1051575
This is just sad.
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>>1051538
to be fair, it's not any better on the other side either. Step out of line and you get called a shill cuck libtard SJW.

/qst/ has become the only board I frequent anymore.
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>>1051575
Well, I don't know if I can REALLY say anything, I got banned for shitposting fart fetish in a Naruto thread on /a/ a while ago. It totally wasn't ban worthy though, they were fully clothed and I've seen people post full on porn and nothing ever happened to them.

Besides, the Naruto fandom is cringy garbage, they all had it coming.
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>>1051280
>>1051601
That reminds me, I have no idea when it's actually coming out. I can't find a date, and it says all the backer rewards were delivered 2 to 3 years ago, but they're still posting updates.
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>>1051621

They're stress-testing the system. It's all done, except for one ongoing army versus army battle between two guys using blast incendiary weapons. Each turn takes a week.
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>>1051575
Well, we haven't loss you yet so that is a good sign. Normally they are quicker on that regard.
>>1051601
Such is the way of things, though my country of origin.. is a secret. Also, have the newest Dutchman F-type schematics. Had to remove the range variation since only 4 load outs.
http://pastebin.com/sEaULnez
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>>1051721
>blast incendiary weapons
I can see why. Dutchman'll be excited for that though.
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>>1051730
My design boner is already erect. VALIDATION! Now excuse me as I go make a war crime in a box.
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>>1051721
Oh yeah, Wong, the Swordtail's the cheapest SOUL mech at 238 or so CP, right?
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>>1051751
And it's done.

War Crime in A Box:
Missile: 20 kills, WA -2, Range 0, Blast 20, Fuse, AP, Incendiary 1 shot. 52.8 CP 1 ton.
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>>1051766

Yes. I'll update Pierre's eventually, but the Swordtail was literally the first SOUL mech, the prototype design and the first to use the Bass Frame.
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>>1051837
Any updates on the upgrade pastebin Wong?
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>>1051803
I was thinking more along the line of a 1 K nuclear missile with blast 20 because since it has such low kills but high blast, the extra effects are why you're dropping it, aka killing everyone within 3 km with radiation.

>>1051837
OK. I ask because the lazily designed absolutely perfect Mobile Armor I made cost ~10 CP less than that. It seemed excessive, but being ALMOST as expensive as the cheapest SOUL mech made it less so.
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>>1051867
Nahh, the cost for a dirty nuke would be incredibly high. 4000 cp for one with no space efficiency. Sure it can kill, but it's expensive. This is a much nastier weapon. Any active shield will have to eat armor piercing napalm/acid which will melt/burn/eat at everything in a 1km radius. Damage to the ground, scenery, buildings, everything, and it's cheap enough to make dozens at the price of that 1 kill blast 20 nuke. The fuse means you can trigger it from a safe distance too.
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>>1051850

It's being worked on. Part of the problem is that for the past while I've been running almost every weekday, and then spending weekends with family. That makes it hard to find time.

So far, I've got as upgrade options a "duel me jerkbag" reactive shield that only blocks ranged attacks and more drones.
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>>1051976
My upgrade boner is full mast
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>>1051922
Well it would only cost 1,200 and not need space efficiency (the 1000x modifier isn't calculated into spaces) but I was talking more about what it would be used for. Since it's not a terribly effective weapon and ridiculously expensive while being ineffective, it would only be used to kill people with the radiation. Purpose built for being a war crime.
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>>1051976
>"duel me jerkbag" reactive shield
I can already picture Jesus' rifle wilting. Still, if you need ideas, I pitched a few a few threads ago. Could bring them up along side some other ideas.
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>>1050722
Missile is okay.
Why are you keeping the Max.Boost of +8 when you can afford +10? There is no reason not to.
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Ah, right, a booster pack was one of the potential upgrades.
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What would be the utility of a "mech" that has an MA of 40 (2000m)?
Cause I made one at 139.25 CP using the fighter form
however it only has one heavy beam gun(10k) and 2 piddly light beam guns (1K)
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>>1052687
MechRider. It's a type of mech that gives it's MV and MA to the rider. So long as the mech or mechs are less than 5x it's weight it can carry them. The Kaiser throne I am developing follows that rule. If I make it armored heavy, give it two wings, plenty of thrusters and it's own barrier, it should be capable of getting the kaiser in and out of battle in style.
>>1052661
Is +3 cool design and decor built into the head for movable screaming kaiser grin a option? Could also go for enlarging servos like the torso and legs or getting thicker armor.
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>>1052709
ahh right I forgot about mech vehicles, yay another project to play about with!
I'm having a lot of fun just making mechs.
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>>1052709
Sounds cool anon, but how about a tiger shaped mech piloted by Domon that we ride into battle
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>>1052717
Because Mechariders are usually not piloted. If it's big enough, we just make a mechbeast for Doman and have him sit on our lap as we float menacingly to the enemy. Also, best deal I see with booster packs? 12 CP and 10 max boost. Balance is 0.96 and it gives you 20 turns of 10 extra MA. That could allow us to zip to Jesus in no time flat AND drop kick anyone in our way!
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>>1052709
wait... most of the mechs MA comes from being a fighter form mech (x2 MA multiplier), can a mech be both a fighter and mecharider? would I just apply all the penalties for both forms at once? that'd put it at -6MV
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>>1052742
Don't think thats possible, but if you skimp on weapons, increase it's size, maybe remove the head since it doesn't need it, it should be good. Either way a 20 MA machine is 2x as fast as the standard. If you give it a strong booster as we talked about, it could still go 30 MA. 3x times as fast!
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>>1052749
I stuffed the cockpit, sensors and 2 small guns in the head, I could probably move the sensors and cockpit to the torso and keep the big gun there...
but isn't there a penalty for putting sensors in the torso?
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>>1052754
though I suppose if it's only a mecha accessory system rather than a pilotable machine I could cut down on a lot...
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>>1052754
Only for awareness but in all fairness this thing would have no pilot. It's purpose is to be ridden. Incidentally, I am experimenting with an idea. Heavy Hydraulics increase your lifting capacity. same with the Super Heavy version. I could theoretically make a mega heavy platform, give it super heavy hydraulics and thus allow it to carry TEN TIMES ITS WEIGHT IN MECHA. AHAHAHA!
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>>1052767
well with no Pilot... I could probably give it a fuckhuge gun that way it functions as vehicle and weapon sorta like that mega launcher thing the Hyaku shiki could hook itself to in Zeta Gundam but with more thrusters.
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>>1052785
Ahh yes. The Hyaku shiki. Wanted to make that for a while. Call it the Golden Hind. Still, a good idea and it makes sense.
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>>1052785
Wouldn't it use roarks stats though? Roarke is like the worst shot in the world in a mech.
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>>1052807
It would if he used it, but a 140 machine for a mook would be different. If it was kept light, even the -2 MV penalty would have the thing stay at a -3 of -4. After all, a 10 ton flier could carry a 50 ton mech with no loss in preformance. In fact, the mech would take the machine's MV for mecha reflex as well.
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>>1052821
Oh I get you now. Be more of a long distance thing though I imagine since it would take 2 turns to reach 20 MA.
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well... I gave it a 20K beam gun. and managed to eke out another 4 MA so with wings its max is 1300m a turn, no cockpit or sensors, this is purely a mecha accessory

Mecha Rider (-2 MV)
Heavy striker torso: C/S/K 10, 5 tons
Medium Weight Wing: C/S/K 6, 3 tons
Medium Weight Wing: C/S/K 6, 3 tons
Medium Weight Wing: C/S/K 6, 3 tons
Medium Weight Wing: C/S/K 6, 3 tons
Armor:
Heavy Striker Armor: CP 5, SP 5, 2.5 tons
Striker Wing Armor: CP 3, SP 3, 1.5 tons (4 pieces)
Options:
Armament:
Torso Mounted: Skeither Heavy beam Cannon: Range 900m, WA +2, 20K, Ammo infinite, 60, 10 spaces, 1 ton (fragile)
Thrusters & Speed:
24 thrusters, 1200m+100m (wings) =1300m in flight. 24 CP. 6 in each wing
135 CP, 26.5 tons
26.5 tons (-2MV) -2MV (Mecha rider)
Total MV penalty: -4

I may need to double check the gun's cost, do I apply space efficiency before or after multipliers?
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>>1052876
It comes before weapon multipliers pretty sure.
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>>1052883
No wait after. I was thinking of full body multipliers.
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>>1052883
k, thats how I calculated it
base cost of 30 CP +10 CP of spaces efficiency for 40, multiplied by 1.5(+2 WA) for a total of 60 CP...
>>1052888
well if I calculate it with space efficiency after weapon multipliers I get 51.25 CP... If I skimped on armor a little bit more and spent some points on weight efficiency I could hit -1MV, -3 with the mecha rider penalty...
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>>1052900
so the base gun would be 45(30x1.5). So you would have about 17.5 space efficiency to get into 10 spaces which was your goal, yes? 62.5 CP total.
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>>1052900
I have made so many mechs with this system and now I am forgetting how to do it. The flow chart says you build it and then if it doesnt fit you apply space efficiency.
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>>1052916
so after then? ok so I might have screwed some thing else up though... How do you count spaces on a custom weapon? a 20K beam gun has a cost of 30 CP, thats 30 spaces too right?
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>>1052921
Yup.
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>>1052921
>>1052931

so if I apply a multiplier its only multiplies cp yeah? not spaces required?
I think I see what my issue was In a later calc I multiplied the base number of spaces the weapon took by the multiplier as well as the cp... so if the multiplier is for cp only then the gun is 51.25 cp if spaces get multiplied too its 62.5
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>>1052935
It multiplies the spaces as well. If the end gun has a cost of 60 no matter the multiplier, it takes up 60 spaces.
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>>1052900
Space efficiency always comes after cost multipliers.

So, the cost of your gun is 45+ however much space efficiency you take.

>>1052921
>>1052935
A gun takes up as many spaces as it costs BEFORE space efficiency, so the cost listed under kills multiplied by whatever modifiers you have. Your gun takes up 45 spaces, or 25 after the 20 space efficiency you used.
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>>1052937
ah ok, I can still fit the gun, had 5 cp leftover, sweet,
>>1052915
huh how'd I miss this post... Thanks again anon.
Ok this should be the fixed version:
Mecha Rider (-2 MV)
Heavy striker torso: C/S/K 10, 5 tons
Medium Weight Wing: C/S/K 6, 3 tons
Medium Weight Wing: C/S/K 6, 3 tons
Medium Weight Wing: C/S/K 6, 3 tons
Medium Weight Wing: C/S/K 6, 3 tons
Armor:
Heavy Striker Armor: CP 5, SP 5, 2.5 tons
Striker Wing Armor: CP 3, SP 3, 1.5 tons (4 pieces)
Options:
Armament:
Torso Mounted: Skeither Heavy beam Cannon: Range 900m, WA +2, 20K, Ammo infinite, 62.5, 10 spaces, 1 ton (fragile) (17.5 CP of space efficiency)
Thrusters & Speed:
24 thrusters, 1200m+100m (wings) =1300m in flight. 24 CP. 6 in each wing
137.5 CP, 26.5 tons
26.5 tons (-2MV) -2MV (Mecha rider)
Total MV penalty: -4
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>>1052952
One thing, you don't have to list the amount of shots if they're infinite, most people understand it's infinite. Well, unless the gun is clip-fed, then each clip has 15 shots.

Also, I may be wrong because I've never made a fragile weapon, but I think a fragile gun would weigh .5 tons since it has 1 kill of structure.

>>1052937
Is that right?

Oh yeah, how did you calculate your thrusters? If you have 20 MA, you should only have 20 thrusters for 20 CP.
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>>1052952
I wonder what Jesus could do with one of these...
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>>1052969
I upped my MA to 24 since I had the space and CP to do so (26.5 tons x .9 = 23.85)
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>>1052970
bitch that it's an artillery piece and not a sniper rifle. Also too showy and takes away from his machine.
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>>1052980
well it is a winged death cannon it tends to make the thing wielding it look less important.

do we know anyone else who's good with long range beam weapons?
hell could we outfit the stone soldiers or someone with a few of these?

... also just imagined a bunch of gm's and zaku's racing each other on these things Redline style.
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>>1052973
Oh, alright.

It looks pretty good since it's supposed to carry other mechs around. It would be really squishy going up against anything though.

>>1052980
You forgot the part where he says the gun doesn't have enough range, calls it ugly and unheroic, then goes and cries to Lysa when someone BTFOs him.
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>>1052999
I don't think I could add enough armor to be worth it in exchange for dropping down to 20MA.
it would only give me 5 CP to play with...

say If you paired this with a mech that had some sort of energy shield... is it possible to shield another machine that way?
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>>1053012
No, I mean in terms of its loadout. The armor's OK, but it doesn't have a shield to parry with, it has -4 MV (as much as my 38 Ton tank with more than double the structural kills of your servos, nearly 3 times the armor and a 12 SP, 0 DA shield) and your only weapon is outranged by mid-sized guns with a little bit of range boost (the 10 K gun on my mech has 75 meters more range.) It would be a toss up who won, since we would both 2 shot the servo holding each other's gun, but I would have a much better chance of being able to avoid your shot and would never have to worry about you being able to attack out of my range.

Basically, it's a glass cannon held back a little because it's gun's range is a tiny bit too short. Maybe drop down to 20 MA (since that's double what 90% of everyone else has) or a little bit lower and give your gun range boost.
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>>1053027
To be fair its meant to be ridden around on rather than be an independent unit.
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>>1053036
Well yeah, that's why I said it's good as the ride it is but would be squishy in a fight. You've invested points into having a powerful gun and speed. I was just explaining why it was squishy.
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>>1051976
There is always the option to upgrade the Kaiser's frame entirely to light heavy. When you include the offsetting weight efficiency and thruster it costs 11 cp, and gives 4 spaces for upgrades, plus 1 kill in the head and legs and 2 in the torso, plus +1 kills to any kicks.
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>>1053599
could also slim various parts like the grapple to make more room in the arms for thrusters. Another option is adding a +2 to the grapple so it can more effectively target enemies at range.
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>>1053599
I back this, but it should cost 10CP because of weight reduction, and I don't see it happening soon, as Karen just updated the frame.
But we could increase armor in all servos with 12CP... I don't see why not to.
We could also give him stronger and linked feet... But I don't see much reason to do it and it would be expensive.
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>>1054000
>>1054000
>I back this, but it should cost 10CP because of weight reduction.
You forgot that thrusters uses pre weight efficiency numbers. So you need an extra thruster to offset the increased weight.
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>>1053998
Could work too, but is it really our focus now?
>>1054008
Yep, you're probably right on this.
....And we could increase the MA too.
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>>1053027
ok, messing with the numbers a bit I got it down to 21 MA and -3MV total with about 12 cp left over...
how do I do shields? can I just slap a standard shield on there or do I have to use an active shield?
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>>1053599
>>1053998
>>1054000
inb4 someone suggests a gun

Are hydraulics not allowed? I remember dutchman anon put them on the Dutchman and they were pretty good.
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>>1054035
Hydraulics are a mixed bag and require a lot of knowledge. They take up 1 space per servo, are a x0.1 modifier, and give you 1 kill to your melee attacks and a extra 1.5 to your lift. For a machine like the Kaiser, that means a drop in speed. There is also the general cost of over 30 cp. With fists it saves about 10 cp for each of them in general cost, space and weight efficiency. legs not so much since they need a upgrade. It's a pretty bad deal all things considered though that might change if it's added to the bits too. Really, like most modifiers, it works better in lower brackets and when you are using something REALLY ridiculous. Like a mega EMW beam saber with +3 accuracy and attack factors.
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>>1054035
Hydraulics would cost 37CP now for +1 Damage... Its not a bad choice per se, but we could buy more with that many points.
What about +1Kills of Armor +increasing the MA to 600m? Many Tourney mech already have MAs of this and higher, and the Kaiser needs to get to close to punch people.

It would cost 16,5 MA+2,5CP on space efficiency to fit the new Thursters so... 19CP.
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>>1054034
You could do either shield, if you have the resources for it.

A standard shield would be cheaper, and take up only one space, but they could get expensive if you want to bump up the DA to be better at blocking.

An active shield would always block a single attack, but would be more expensive and take up half its cost in space, which you may not have.

Any shield would also add weight, which could mess with your thruster calculations and MV.

Just go ahead and try to make some shield you think would be good, since you know your own mech better than I do.

As it stands though, it IS good, I'm not just saying that. It can carry a much slower mech around at more than double the mech's speed, and has a huge gun to help them. It being squishy in a straight fight isn't a problem since it wasn't made for one, it was made for speed and alpha damage. It is your mech though, and you can do whatever you want.
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>>1054069
>>1054070
Maybe I should have spent my time learning hydraulics instead of nuclear weapons.
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>>1054070
Easier said than done. The Kaiser is a big, meaty boy. To give it more boost, we would need to get it more spaces or find a way to cram in more thrusters. Tech we do not have just yet as wong has stated over and over.
However, handling flighty or ranged foes is needed hence the Grapple acc boost. With it's range mod it would be at 0 for ranges up to 64 hexes away and INCREDIBLY accurate for those who float around the 8 mark. Add the duel me faggot shield and booster pack and you have a situation where most ranged units would be very worried.
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>>1054095
Crazy idea.

Add a pod, put a Surge shield in it, grapple everyone.
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>>1054075
I cut off a wing, upped the torso 1 size and bolted a Light heavy standard shield to it, MA is 20,
Mecha Rider (-2 MV)
Medium Weight torso: C/S/K 12, 6 tons
Heavy Striker Wing: C/S/K 5, 2.5 tons
Heavy Striker Wing: C/S/K 5, 2.5 tons
Heavy Striker Wing: C/S/K 5, 2.5 tons
Armor:
Heavy Striker Armor: CP 5, SP 5, 2.5 tons
Striker Wing Armor: CP 3, SP 3, 1.5 tons (3 pieces)
Options:
Armament:
Torso Mounted: Skeither Heavy beam Cannon: Range 900m, WA +2, 20K, Ammo infinite, 63.5 CP, 6 spaces, 1 ton (fragile) (18.5 CP of space efficiency)
Torso Mounted Standard Light Heavy Shield: SP 11, DA+0, 16.5 CP, 5.5 tons
Thrusters & Speed:
18 thrusters, 900m+100m (wings) =1000m in flight. (27x 0.675= 18.22) 18 CP. 5 in each wing, 3 in torso
139 CP, 27 tons
27 tons (-2MV) -2MV (Mecha rider)
Total MV penalty: -4
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>>1054116
er, the cannon is 8 spaces I have the right CP cost, I just forgot to update the spaces.
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>>1054095
Its just 19CP... and then +2 in one arm, +3 in another, 1 Thurster in the Torso and another in the head.
Why I'm keeping that one space there in the torso? For the Shield, obviously.
And we can also increase the grapple... But it doesn't work that way senpai, for you have to sacrifice one kill per one hex boost for entagling weapons... And that would make things tricky again.

>>1054104
>pic
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>>1054104
Ah yes, the Blanca option. Well, a good shock shield would be incredibly expensive to make so it's not a good option unless we have a ton of CP. Could make it material only and a longer charge time, but the cost will still be bad.
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>>1054116
This looks good too, much more survivable. I'll be honest, I don't really know how effective a tradoff speed is for defense is when a mech is going over 20 MA and made to carry other mecha. Brazil or dutchman would be able to give you better advice.

Did 4chan just die for anyone else there?
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>>1054141
The grapple has a length of 8 due to the 8 kills sacrificed. 8 x 8 is 64. That is it's max range. It has a -2 to hit between 9-64 thanks to Clemmy's bonus. A +2 makes that a 0. Most enemies will be in that range by virtue of range. Theoretically it could be combined with that one attack shield to shock those attached to us.
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>>1054142
It would be fun though. Just imagine how terrified our enemies would be.
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>>1054169
honestly an extra 300m per turn doesn't seem that big a deal compared to the big ass shield...
anyway I figure it'd look like this but with the little top fin behind the gold tubes replaced with a saddle thing for mechs and 3 wings coming off the back cylander part.
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>>1054179
Oh.
Now this makes sense.

>>1054116
>>1054217
Where would the shield fit in this design?

Also, I'm somewhat free right now, so if you guys want help in something, please repost that, as we will have to stop for Wong's QMing in a few hours.
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>>1054566
Is my mech OK Brazil? :^)
http://pastebin.com/hvUk7Xi0
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>>1054566
Aside from a second opinion on the F-type, I should be good. Designing the Kestrel Throne, I thought of using two giant arms for dismantling/grabbing and the possible shock shield combo. http://pastebin.com/sEaULnez
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>>1054573
Does the bonus to armor from the tank form increase the armor weight?
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>>1054590
Nope.
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>>1054590
Well, I should say it comes at the cost of no arms, hands, or hand held weapons. Along with -1 MV from being a tank.
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>>1054566
Oh I figure the shield would be a sort of windshield shaped thing in front of the riding mech or attached to one side. I can't draw for crap but basically imagine a mech straddling a massive beam gun like a witch on a broomstick, now add 3 wings at the back end as the broomsticks bristles and then the windshield in front of the mech
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>>1054634
something like this?
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>>1054634
WAAAAAIT.
Broomstick with a shield?
I think I got you covered anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehdlQQ4BklE
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>>1054654
Wrong vid.
Action starts on 1:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDVUx8bb_6Q
Also, beware of spoilers if you want to watch this series
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>>1054654
yeah, That'll work!
now for a name... or not since I was only making this thing for fun and It probably won't ever be used... Though I bet Miles would love it since I think its just about the biggest gun possible in the mekton system
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>>1054691
Call it the Boomstick.

It's a play on words of broomstick and references Army of Darkness. It's perfect.
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>>1054697
Oh, thats good~ Yeah I'll use that!
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>>1054703
Put it into a pastebin.

Actually, make a pastebin account and put it in a pastebin. It helps a lot.
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>>1054697
HAHAHAHAHA
Seconding this.

You could also explain the wings as the divisions for the "cup" part at the end of the broomstick... Its ridiculous, but plausible.
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>>1054708
http://pastebin.com/MHBXQKfp
I actually had made a pastebin account, I just forgot, anyway here's the paste of the boomstick
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Okay, order of priority now:
>M-Sagiser.
>Libra(If he still cares)
>Fist of Zeus(Tank-kouhai, you madman...)
>Boomstick.
>D-Type(Because the Dutchman accounting always makes me question my sanity).
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>>1054724
You can drop me down to last, or just take me off the list. Literally all I did was add wings and a anti-missile gun. Oh, and double the amount of missiles because of all the thrusters I moved to the wings. I was thinking of giving them more range, or dropping them back down and adding another gun.
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>>1054724
Also
>that nickname
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Tech talk aside, let's look into the clusterfuck we are getting into.
1: S-Squillia is going berserk with Simon. Likely heading to the possible bioarmor/green man weapon
2: Greenman weapon is being activated and is large enough to cause earth quakes. It may very well be ship size or Mega Heavy. Assume it is at full power. May meet up with Simon
3: Kitty Kong is still active in the area with knight support. Could get in the way or assist.

Of the three, Simon getting under control is the most important. Rather than spores it might be transmitting thoughts to him and the Squillia. We need to keep him talking but give it no chance to gain a foot hold of 'your friends betrayed you'. Shield ram to eat up actions, move away to force him to kick. Bettas with glue guns can also help eat up a action or two. Same with grapples or binding tools. Keith and Garret run interference and keep the enemies at bay that may show up. With the talk Simon mentioned, it's likely using soothing shit and his desire to make his papa proud on him. Can counter if possible, but will require to keep him talking.
The threat of the greenman weapon will depend on how dangerous it is and it's state. I'm hoping it's not at full power, but you never know. Either way, we need to snap Simon out of it for his sake, Irina's, and the Squilia's. Because if he can't, chances are all their futures will look bleak.
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>>1054724
I'm fairly sure the Libra is fine. You can skip it if you want.

Just make sure the latest version is in the space jam pastebin.
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>>1054783
Don't worry senpai, you forgot about Cesar and Moe appearing in the last moment to save everyone by kicking S-Squillia, Paladin daddy and their Elder monstruosity friend in the name of Roarke's Glory!

KESTRELS BANZAI!
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>>1054869
Jesus she's flashing everyone.
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>>1054869
I like to stand by the principal of not trusting them to be able to pull us out of a fire. Likewise, Caesar attacking him would also cause the whole 'My friends are betraying me' thing to stick further.
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>>1054876
UWAAAAAAAA... I CAN'T BE A BRIDE NOW!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-
>Runs screaming and leaving a trail of mecha papers with info on everybody's mechs through where she passes...
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>>1054908
It's ok, with the way marriage has been going for the last decade or so and the gulf between people grows, the likely hood of you being a bride is already astronomically low! Don't worry, that just means you will surely be a wizard!
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>>1055002
My god.
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I'm reviewing the bird...
Okay... So, if I'm getting this right, feet gain +2DMG bonus for free, and then you apply legs and form bonuses.
And takes no spaces.

But they are assumed to be "Clumsy" and the DMG bonuses apply to their MA penalty...
Or at least the +2
(Read Clumsy description)

So... It should be 1.5CP, Clumsy, Quick, 0 Spaces and 1.5tons? Anyone have another theory on this?
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>>1055092
I'm pretty sure he used the talons from the base Mekton book. Either they didn't stat them right in the book, or the listed stats are with the leg bonus already calculated in.
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>>1055092
>>1055099
Actually, both I think? Because 3 K clumsy talons should cost 1.75 CP.
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>>1055092
I got the talons from this.>>1035759

the avian beast form gives +2K to melee, the leg servos are big enough to give +4K for a total of 11K a kick
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>>1055108
I know.

But you know that there are people here who have used "custom hands" don't you? I think that Wong would be okay with you just copying from the book, but I also think that you could use the full power of the ATM to make your on options if you should want it.

And this is why I'm trying to discover the math behind these things.

Also, I didn't check it yet, but the bonus from avian form may change the MA penalty to -3.

...Aaaaand you probably could make a AP, 4k Talon for the same price and penalty, if you're okay with a +0.5tons.
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>>1055145
Well since the talons don't actually take up spaces but I calculated as if they did I think there is some room for changes.

also its just mecha beast not avian mecha beast form (my bad) since this thing doesn't have wings it doesn't make sense for it to get the +6 MA bonus avian mecha beast from confers
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>>1055002
>wizard joke
>on a chuuni character who thinks that she has magical powers.
Dutch, you may have created a monster.
Poor Victor
>>1055007
>>1055108
Also, can anyone confirm to me that Wong isn't banned? Has anyone seem some suspect anon dropping red pills on /tg/ today? Or doing /pol/-tier jokes on /m/?
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>>1055145
>>1055163
The cassowary weighs 38 Tons right? Whether it takes mecha best or avian, it should have -4 MV since they both give -1 MV.

>>1055165
Nope. I only frequent /qst/ to quest and /a/ to shitpost weebs.
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>>1055163
>Not being an flying ostrich.
Seriously? What are you waiting for?

Also.
>Implying that the +6MA and -1MV aren't because of the fact that you filled it to the brim with overpowered thursters that makes it difficult to control.
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>>1055196
so... I can have a free +6MA is what you're saying
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>>1055205
As long as you're OK with the -1 MV and not being able to have hands or hand held weapons.
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>>1055175
Go there



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