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You walk towards the door, slowly.

The hallways stretches farther than it seems, and at your pace it takes your farther than it should to reach the doorway.

All at once, you’ve reached it- and cautiously, you reach forward to the doorknob.

You gently turn the knob and push, and the door acquiesces.

Inside, an elderly woman sits alone at a table, packing tobacco into a long, slender pipe.

The room itself is brightly lit and plainly adorned, with-

“Well, come in, girl. I don’t have all evening for you to admire my home.” Kogoto Aburame criticizes, interrupting your observation.

The woman’s voice is low and sultry, seemingly undamaged despite her habit.

Not wanting to subjected to further criticism, you step forward, closing the door behind you.

You introduce yourself, but the woman seems uninterested, instead lighting her pipe, eventually taking a long drag.

Her eyes narrow in on you, and she exhales a thin stream of smoke in your direction.

“I know who you are. Sit.” She says sharply.

You obey, pulling out the chair.

Sitting down, you find yourself face to face with the head of the Aburame clan.

A faint, knowing smile spreads across her lips.

“Shall we begin?”

>wargle is not kill
Who kidnapped you?
WERE DID GOBBLE TOUCH YOU

>>959850
>“Shall we begin?”
Hell, it's about time.

>>959850
Lets do it granny, thought yoou'd died or something, we've been sat here for weeks

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>>959910
>>959855
>>959882

Yeah- holidays being shitty and all, besides my getting sick. Didn't mean to let everyone sit for 10 days or so- I'll just have to crank out some updates over the next week before Christmas eats me alive.

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>>959928
No problem, boss
The biggest problem right now is the lack of Rare Christmas Tsukis.

>>959910
>>959928
>turn on the quest again after a while
>Kogoto is dead of old age
fug

Oh shit I never make it in time for shinobi quest

and I was just about to take a bath and play the Friday the 13th beta

>>959997
>playing worse Dead by Daylight
I mean, uhh, your ninja waifu is shit!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hpbuiGSIII

The old woman gives you a visual once over, before taking another deep drag from her pipe.

“At least you know how to dress for the occasion. That gaudy thing you wore to the Examinations was unsightly, child. This suits you much better.” She critiques- although there is a shallow smile behind the biting words.

[Kogoto’s Opinion +1]

[Negotiation!]

[When dealing with someone at or above your charismatic ability, a simple charisma check will not suffice to make them see your side. Instead, the conversation will go forward in it’s entirety, and the choices you make will affect that person’s opinion of you- or the faction or idea you are representing. When reaching a suitable level positive or negative opinion, the conversation will take a positive or negative turn- allowing to verbally go in for the kill- or try desperately to save your floundering negotiation. I hope this will make our more… intense negotiation sessions a little more exciting than a simple check.]

You fight the urge to bite back- you liked that dress, and your father had it personally made by the finest tailors in the capital.

Outwardly, however, you give not an inch- this women will be eying you for any flaws she can find- and weakness she can exploit.

You…

1. Make some idle talk about your performance in the exams, since she brought it up.

2. Compliment her home and her own attire.

3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.

4. Cut through this obfuscating- you’re here for business, and you both know it. These pleasantries are beneath you.

5. Object to her use of "girl" and "child". You come here as equals- and you demand the proper respect.

>>960016
>3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.

>>960016
>3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.

>>960005
Death by daylight was kind of intrestong even tho it was glorified hide and seek
>>960016
>3

>>960016
>3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.

That refill was useful as dicks after that whole fuckfest

>>960016

5. Object.

>>960016
3 but also 5.

>>960016
>3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.
>5. Object to her use of "girl" and "child". You come here as equals- and you demand the proper respect.
Old bitch sound respect someone with backbone

>>960016
>3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.

>>960016
>3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.

>>960016
>3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.
>5. Object to her use of "girl" and "child". You come here as equals- and you demand the proper respect.

>>960016
>4. Cut through this obfuscating- you’re here for business, and you both know it. These pleasantries are beneath you.
We have business to conduct. Taking this seriously will do more for her to see us as an equal than any whining ever would.

>>960016
>3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha
>5. Object to her use of "girl" and "child". You come here as equals- and you demand the proper respect.

>>960016
>3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.

>>960016
>2. Compliment her home and her own attire.
>3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.
reply compliments with similar compliments, as is proper by formal traditions.

>>960016
>3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.
She is a traditional lady and from the old school. You do not demand respect, you earn it. We do not be flippant we stay polite. For the moment we are sizing one another up.

in other words don't vote 5 as it's us being a bitchy young whippersnapper which pushes her against us

>>960066
Agreed.

Don't vote 5 you lot. It's just whining.

>>960066
Damn straight, especially when we ARE a young child in comparison to her venerable age and experience. Denying our youth and inexperience with this sort of thing is just plain stupid.

You can't demand respect guys. You have to earn it. In her eyes we are not equals until we prove it.

>>960066

I dunno man, I see what you're saying but I see it as showing a backbone and standing up for ourselves.

She seems like she resects a spine.

I do get your point though.

>>960016
2. Compliment her home and her own attire.
3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.

Im sure there is nothing we can say to not make us look like children, so we should go for the respectful young adult instead of the loud mouth barking brat.

Thanking for assistance.

Writing~

>>960016
>2. Compliment her home.
>3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.

>>960016
>3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.

>>960005
take pro-survivor e-sport elsewhere

>>960016
>3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.
>4. Cut through this obfuscating- you’re here for business, and you both know it. These pleasantries are beneath you.

>>960016
>3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.

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>>960093
>>960106
>>960126
>>960130

>>960093
>>960106
>>960126
>>960130

See >>960090

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>>960143
>King's rock isn't available til post game in Sun/Moon

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>>960161
>ice types in general don't come until the bulk of the story is over, right before the championship.

>>959841
>Shinobi quest is back
>We're finally back to playing Roarke in MSPQ
>Its almost christmas
This is gonna be a pretty good week

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“Lady Kogoto, before we begin- I’d like to take a moment to thank you for your entire clan’s assistance during the assault on our village. Not only did your clansmen protect many lives- without their unique abilities we may not have been able to overcome the adversities that followed.” You say, rising from your chair to bow respectfully.

Not too deeply, however.

“With all of my heart- thank you.” You say, keeping you eyes downcast.

Silence is all that greets you- is she stunned by your admission, or merely considering your words?


You hear her take another puff of her pipe- before airy laughter greets your ears.

“You may rise, child. It has been a while since someone has thanked us so earnestly for our help- in fact, I believe it was your mentor who stood in this same position, all those years ago….”

“Regardless, you are most welcome. Our clan’s ability is most unique indeed- and while some other shinobi practice similar arts, none are more dedicated than we. Many forget the role the Aburame have always quietly played in Konoha’s prosperity, giving deference to the Dojutsu users, or the Senju. We do not chafe without recognition, as some might- but it is still nice to be recognized now and again.”

You return to your seat, and make eye contact with the Aburame matriarch. Her face may be a mask- but her gaze has softened, ever so slightly.

[Kogoto’s Opinion +2!]


“Speaking of our lovely Kikaichu, what is your opinion of insects and beetles, young Tsuki? Many are rather put off with contact with them- despite the Kikaichu being single minded in their devotion. We share our bodies with them, and in return the grant us power. The entire world operates under similar properties- everything is a matter of exchange.” Kogoto asks, her face impassive.

There seems to be a bit of movement on the side of the table.....

1. (Lie) I find them quite interesting!

2. (Lie) I do not mind their presence.

3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.

4. Disgusting!

5. Try to deflect the question by changing topics- exchange is something your family is famous for.

>>960235
>3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.

Don't lie, she'll know, and she won't like that we tried to tell her what she wanted to hear.

>>960235
>5. Try to deflect the question by changing topics- exchange is something your family is famous for.

>>960235
>3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.
It probably won't help us but it's better then her catching us in a lie

>>960235
>3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.

>>960235
>3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.
We respect them and their role deeply... but preferably from a distance.

>>960235
>3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.
With the utmost respect, of course

>>960235
>3

>>960235
>3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.

>>960235
>3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.

>>960235
>3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.

Theyre a good tool and we'll use them if needed but otherwise...yeah.

>>960235
>3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.
Honesty is the best policy

>>960235
>3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.
I understand they're important to your clan, but i was simply raised in a different environment.
I'm afraid mine is quite a standard reaction among young girls.

>>960235
>3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.

>>960235
>3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.
>5. Try to deflect the question by changing topics- exchange is something your family is famous for.
Gah... this is basically a test of how we can respond properly. No lies though, those are probably auto-fail.

>>960235
>6. They can be pretty, and there's no denying their usefulness, but...no, you are not particularly fond of bugs.

>>960235
>3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.
I'll be honest I find them truly fascinating biologically and they represent the perfect system, They live and protect the whole, work seamlessly. While i'm not afraid of them or unnerved by them, I do think the sensation a little bit odd. Not unpleasant just...new.

Funny it's quite ironic, its the things that make so many uncomfortable that infact hold everything together so that they can live their comfortable lives.

But with all things unpleasant does not mean bad, often we find the right choices are the hard and unpleasant ones.

I do look forward to hopefully seeing them in action more often, truly a fascinating species.

>>960278
I kind of like >>960278 because it's more accurate and nuanced than choice 3.

>>960235
>2. (Lie) I do not mind their presence.
They are not so dissimilar from Father's Norihime machines, dedicated tools, requiring merely care in return for fulfilling their function.

>>960235
3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.

>>960235
Is 1 really a lie? Tsuki was interested in their potential applications, if memory serves.

>>960235
Seconding
>>960278

If I can do that and vote. Ignore this post if I can't.

>>960303
It's a white lie sort of thing. She's hiding the squick factor.

>>960303
That's kind of the thing; Tsuki finds bugs distressing to be around, but she is legitimately interested in finding ways to apply them.

>>960235
Changing >>960252
to >>960278

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>>960303
Omission of truth, rather than direct falsehood.

Tsuki doesn't really like bugs.

>>960286
This because the text seems good

Counting votes for 6 as votes for 3, since it's essentially the same thing.

Each option is just a general thought process, not exactly how Tsuki says it. However, I will write it a bit more nuanced for you.

>3

Writing~

>3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.
But, without them I may have lost people important to me.

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>>960341
Love ya

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we need more edits of this one for different boys. Or maybe her laying among a pile of body pillows

>>960341
I was trying to communicate with option 6 that we were still willing to work with bugs. Hence the practicality statement.

>>960358
Tsuki needs a bodypillow of Tsuki

>>960341
Basically yeah, bug are gross, we don't really like being touched by them, but we appreciate their usefulness.

>>960363
More like a body pillow stuffed with cash.

>>960371
Why not make the bed made of cash

Body pillow of the second hokage with money stuffed in it

Danzo got it for us as a birthday gift

>>960392
It's a hand-me-down.

>>960430
Seems about right

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“Insects can truly be beautiful- and there is no denying the usefulness they provide to your clan and to Konoha… but I admit, I am not overly fond of them.” You explain.

As another moment of silence passes between you, a large beetle with a scissor-like maw crawls slowly onto the table. It’s head moves slightly, first towards you, then towards Kogoto, who gently places her hand on the creature.


“A shame- but I appreciate your honesty. We are raised around them since birth, so to the Aburame, they are our companions. A lost insect is beyond the thoughts of most humans, but we try to give them the same consideration they give us as protectors of the nest.” Kogoto says, gently petting the insect.

[Kogoto's Opinion +0]

“This one is one of my beloved O-Kuwagata; a class of warrior beetle that are rare outside the compound. They are rather long-lived and quite intelligent compared to some of their brethren- and when fully grown, they are capable of destroying fortifications and cleaving men in twain.” She explains further, lifting the large insect and placing it in her open palm.


It clacks it’s mandibles a few times- not that you know what that means.

The beetle turns to you, clacks it’s mandible once- and suddenly takes flight!

It lazily circles around you, before landing on your head.

“Oho- he does seem to have taken a liking to you, young Tsuki! Although, maybe he just finds your chakra interesting…?” The old woman coos, a smug smile on her face.

It takes all your composure to remain still…..

(Roll to remain composed! 1d100, first three.)

Rolled 24 (1d100)

>>960539
Nat 1

Rolled 52 (1d100)

>>960539

Rolled 3 (1d100)

>>960539

Rolled 12 (1d100)

>>960539

Rolled 62 (1d100)

>>960539

Rolling.

Well, the reaction might be less than impressive.

>>960542
>>960550
>>960551
And things were going so ok too...

>>960563

Hopefully she'll be amused enough to like us more.

Rolled 16 (1d100)

>>960542
>>960550
>>960551
Little girls do not like bugs.

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>>960539
Beetle?

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>>960588
Melting wax?

>>960588
>Dat pose
Is that a Jojo reference?

>>960542
>>960550
>>960551
Most like we're going to have one of those full body shudders even as we try to keep our composure.

>tfw a beetle landing on Tsuki bothers her more than Snake Pedo's killing intent

>>960565
Problem is, we don't want her to like us in the sense of "haha this little girl is just too cute" we want her to like us in the sense of "This young woman can be trusted to secure the future of Konoha".

>>960599
yup, Jojolion reference

>>960588
Beetle tendency best arc

>>960620
is...

is she bullying us?

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Poor Tsuki. Writing.

mfw Beetle tendency

>>960588
>>960592
>>960599
>>960632

「HARVEST」

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>>960629
don't no, bait ?

>>960542
>>960550
>>960551
To be fair, all in all not the worst roll to fail.

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>>960632

>>960636
Know*

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Make Konoha Great Again Pose.

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>>960731

>>960731
>fit
>natural looking hair
>minimum amount of neck flab
>not orange

There's a few things wrong with that Trump picture.

>>960761
Say it with me, MR. PRESIDENT

>>960761
Za Warru!!!!!!!

>>960767
I'm not even mad. Just disappointed.

>>960752
>I reject the ANBU, Itachi!

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>>960767

>yfw USS. DONALD J. TRUMP.

>>960774
Better than a criminal

>>960774
>>960792
YAMERO

>>960785
>Battleship
Don't you have an appointment to get to before 1930 ends?

>>960774
I wonder if you actually think he's an anti-gay racist who wants to kick out legal immigrants.

>>960792
Marginally. I would have preferred Jeb, Rubio, or Kasich.

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You freeze.

Despite your best efforts, your eyes widen and your body stiffens.

The beetle slowly crawls atop your head, sifting through your hair.

You feel sweat beading on your forehead- and mentally, you plead.

Please! Call it off…..


“Return to me, Ravana. The poor girl looks like she’s about to go into shock.” Kogoto calls, her voice sterner than before.

Mercifully, the beetle flares it’s wings, and flies over to Kogoto’s outstretched hand, landing gently.

“You need to work on that fear of yours, girl. Surely you’ve experienced worse things in your work? Although, it does remind me of those early years at Lord Tobirama’s academy….” She tuts, before some memory softens her expression.

[Kogoto’s Opinion -1]

[+2 total, for those of you counting at home!]


“Anyway, we should focus on why you’ve come. That geezer Shimura has always had a one-track mind since we graduated to serve the Lord Second- and with the Third dead and young Minato missing… I likely guessed his intentions before he even thought of them. He wishes to revive his ROOT organization- but really, does he plan to remain in the shadows as before, after the will of the last Hokage destroyed everything he worked for…?”

“Tell me, Tsuki Norihime. Does Danzo Shimura intend to become Hokage?”

Her eyes bore into you- and the question catches you slightly off guard.

You respond….


1. Truthfully. You do not know if Danzo plans on attempting to become Hokage.

2. By backpedaling. You are here to discuss ROOT’s revival- not the office of Hokage.

3. By taking a leap of logic- or perhaps forming your own plan? Danzo will become the next Hokage.

4. By taking a leap of logic- or perhaps forming your own plan? Danzo will not become the next Hokage.

5. By admitting that he has plans to rig the election of the next Hokage for a favorable candidate.

>>960813
Jeb is a mess.

>>960774
At least the US armed forces have a badass theme song now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlQ6KqTlyfk

>>960817
>1. Truthfully. You do not know if Danzo plans on attempting to become Hokage.
I don't think he ever told us.

>>960808
It's not so much him I'm worried about. He's a heartless bastard who knows how to appeal to the masses, so basically Hillary.

It's the type of behavior he condones. My sister is openly trans, and if we didn't live in a liberal community I'd worry about her.

>>960817
>3. By taking a leap of logic- or perhaps forming your own plan? Danzo will become the next Hokage.

>>960817
>5. By admitting that he has plans to rig the election of the next Hokage for a favorable candidate.

I'm guessing this is the sort of thing they should be told in case they want to help choose the candidate.

>>960817
>1. Truthfully. You do not know if Danzo plans on attempting to become Hokage.
Though I believe he should... I choose not to know so the information can't be pried from me. All I need do is follow for the goal.

>>960817
>1. Truthfully. You do not know if Danzo plans on attempting to become Hokage.

>>960817

Start with

1

But say you're putting together a plan

with 3.

>>960817
>2. By backpedaling. You are here to discuss ROOT’s revival- not the office of Hokage.

>>960817
>1. Truthfully. You do not know if Danzo plans on attempting to become Hokage.
I honestly don't want him to become Hokage, and even with our preferences aside, letting on about any plans will give her something to use against one of us.

>>960817
>1. Truthfully. You do not know if Danzo plans on attempting to become Hokage.
>2. By backpedaling. You are here to discuss ROOT’s revival- not the office of Hokage.
1 leading into 2. In the end, we're here to talk about ROOT revival, not Danzo.

>>960817
This >>960854

>>960826
Also, this.
>2. By backpedaling. You are here to discuss ROOT’s revival- not the office of Hokage.

>4. By taking a leap of logic- or perhaps forming your own plan? Danzo will not become the next Hokage.
Danzo is not the right man to be Hokage. The Hokage is a public figure, he's a man who should stay in the shadows keeping Konoha safe. What's needed is a Hokage willing to listen to him, and able to understand that sometimes Konoha needs to take actions which the Hokage cannot publicly get involved with or acknowledge. Hiruzen understood that.

>>960817
>1. Truthfully. You do not know if Danzo plans on attempting to become Hokage.

But tell her from what we know of danzo, he probably does not wish to step into its chair.

>>960817
>1. Truthfully. You do not know if Danzo plans on attempting to become Hokage.
>2. By backpedaling. You are here to discuss ROOT’s revival- not the office of Hokage.


>>960820
I really like Jeb. I clapped.

>>960817
>1. Truthfully. You do not know if Danzo plans on attempting to become Hokage.
But
>4. By taking a leap of logic- or perhaps forming your own plan? Danzo will not become the next Hokage.

We don't think he should be the Hokage.

>>960862
(edit to not imply the next Hokage will be a man since they may well not be)
>>960864
pls

>>960817
>2. By backpedaling. You are here to discuss ROOT’s revival- not the office of Hokage.

Guys you have to realize, telling her nothing here is the best bet.

If we tell her anything at all she can find a use for it, probably to give her leverage over Danzo.

>>960813
>Jeb
Wow
I'll give you the others
>>960817
>1

>>960817
>2. By backpedaling. You are here to discuss ROOT’s revival- not the office of Hokage.
Changing to this. Now now we know are here and its not that

>>960888
we shouldnt though.

We're negotiating in good faith with a major clan of Konoha for her betterment. Best to be straightforward and honest in our negotiations with her. Lying or deflecting from a longterm business partner with whom you intent to continue working with is poor business sense.

>>960930

But she's not gonna be 100% truthful with us, though.

1 into 2.

Writing.

Ah damn, just missed the start of the thread to a nap.
Oh well, glad to catch a live thread.

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“Truthfully? I don’t know if he intends to step forward as a candidate. If he does, he hasn’t expressed that intention to me, or to anyone else. However- we are here to discuss the revival of ROOT and the Aburame’s place within it- not the office of Hokage.” You remind Kogoto.

She puffs thoughtfully on her pipe, then sighs.

“Were I twenty years younger, I’d get the information out of him myself. Alas, time marches forward- and the younger generations must pick off where we’ve left off.” She laments.

[Kogoto’s Opinion +0]


“Very well, let us discuss the old geezer’s pet project. I shan't play games- ROOT was always effective at it’s purpose before. Keeping our enemies weak- separated- and at each other’s throats. We would never suffer the indignities of the FIrst and Second Shinobi World Wars again- losing our leaders to foreign assassins, having our beloved home come under attack….”

“Why would Minato choose to destroy such an organization, one that proved so valuable to his predecessor?”


Kogoto smiles.

“I would hear your answer, Tsuki Norihime. Why did the previous incarnation of ROOT fail?”

You answer by saying….


1. Minato was a fool, and did not realize how valuable ROOT was.

2. ROOT’s ties to the criminal Orochimaru doomed it to failure.

3. Danzo’s relationship with Minato was the source of the failure.

4. It’s the Uchiha’s fault that ROOT was disbanded!

5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization.

>>961085
>2. ROOT’s ties to the criminal Orochimaru doomed it to failure.

>>961085
>5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization.

Never blame others for your own fuckups.

>>961085
>4. It’s the Uchiha’s fault that ROOT was disbanded!
>1. Minato was a fool, and did not realize how valuable ROOT was.
Its always the eyeniggers fault

>>961085
>5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization.

>>961085
>5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization.
>>961096
My only issue with this answer is then: Why trust a main who has failed already?

My only hope is that it's a we've learned from past errors.

>>961085
>>5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization.

>>961085
>5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization.

>>961085
Mix of 3&5.

>>961085
>5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization.
Rule one of being in charge, everything is your fault. We actually have Shisui's vision for more info than most

>>961103
That's the point, yeah. We know Danzo messed up, I'm pretty sure Danzo knows he messed up, and we're going to acknowledge that so that it doesn't happen again.

>>961085
>5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization.

>>961085
>1. Minato was a fool, and did not realize how valuable ROOT was.
>2. ROOT’s ties to the criminal Orochimaru doomed it to failure.
Both. ROOT having connections with the traitor was a primary reason as to why it was considered to be 'evil'. But it's also how Minato doesn't see the usefulness of ROOT, that it's advantages outweighs it's disadvantages, that brought it down in the eyes of Minato. If he only acknowledged and understood it's purpose...

>>961085
>5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization.
At that point it was loyal to him and his goals, not to Konoha.

>>961085
>1. Minato was a fool, and did not realize how valuable ROOT was.
>2. ROOT’s ties to the criminal Orochimaru doomed it to failure.
>5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization.

Bit of these three.

>>961132
Yeah, 3 and 4 are really the only shitty choices.

Danzo overreached, causing ROOT to be unmanageable and also go a bit too far into shady, unethical and unnecessary research. Minato noticed this, and ROOT's ties to Orichimaru were merely a catalyst or excuse for him to end things. At the same time, Minato was a fool because even if ROOT had issues, it did serve a purpose and it's likely its Pros outweighed its Cons. Either way, it should have just been restructured and regulated a bit tighter instead of outright disbanded, that was retarded.

Pretty much all of those things are valid but in the end its down to the leader to decide how things go. But 3 is a big one alongside 5

>>961085
>5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization.

>5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization.

>>961085
>>2. ROOT’s ties to the criminal Orochimaru doomed it to failure.
>>5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization.

I disagree with 1; Minato is not a fool, and even he could probably see what benefits ROOT had.

However, Danzo's actions had caused more problems than it solved.

>>961085
>3. Danzo’s relationship with Minato was the source of the failure.

allies just wouldn't ally with each other

>>961085
>5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization.

>>961085
>5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization
>>961155
My thoughts exactly.

I think we really need to remind people that under the Third we were doing great because while people were peaceful and friendly, Hiruzen was the kind hand, if you rejected Hiruzen then Danzo would deal with you. It's a very very strong model of rule.

>>961155
The problem is that ROOT was loyal to only one person: Danzo. And Minato didn't trust Danzo, for justifiable reasons. Danzo caused a lot of problems.

Frankly the organization needed to be mostly gutted and rebuilt anyway, with oversight and accountability. Which we can do now.

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“There is no one definitive answer to your question, Kogoto.” You announce, crossing your arms.

“However- more than any other, Danzo’s overreaching his boundaries and the resulting failure caused the end of ROOT’s original incarnation.”

“To give such a vague answer with such conviction… come now, Tsuki. What did he do?” Kogoto says dismissively.

You grit your teeth- she’ll make you say it aloud….? You haven’t even discussed this with man himself, but…


“He attempted to kill Shisui Uchiha for his Dojutsu- and failed.” You admit.

“Oho- you admit it, then? That he betrayed one of his own loyal men for nothing but personal gain?” Kogoto says, pressing you.

“It’s not exactly a well guarded secret- both of us knew what happened before meeting, Kogoto. This is not new information for you.” You say impassively, calling her bluff.

“Better with words than insects, I see.” She says with a smirk.

[Kogoto’s Opinion +1]


“Danzo was hungry for power- and no matter what fancy words or aspirations he uses to dress up that fact, the fact itself remains. In his lust for power, he nearly destroyed his entire legacy. So, I will ask you, Tsuki Norihime- what was Danzo’s greater sin- his lust for power, or his inability to achieve the power he has always lusted after?”

Ravana, the O-Kuwagata, clacks his mandibles aggressively.


What… is the correct answer?

1. Danzo’s sin was his lust for greater power.

2. Danzo’s sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.

>>961247
>2. Danzo’s sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.

>>961247
>2. Danzo’s sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.

>>961247
>1. Danzo’s sin was his lust for greater power.

"He got too greedy."

>>961247
>2. Danzo’s sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.

>>961247
>1. Danzo’s sin was his lust for greater power.

The man is extremely good at what he does, but what he does doesn't actually require as much power as he wanted. He should have recognized his limits.

>>961247
>1. Danzo’s sin was his lust for greater power.

>>961247
>2. Danzo’s sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.

>>961269
>>961247
This sounds good

>>961247
>2. Danzo’s sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.
The need for power is normal. One requires power to do things that needs such power. You can't just fix the problems of the world with ideals and a nice face after all. But to fail to achieve it? That is true failure.

>>961276
It's obviously 2 anon, think for a second and it will come to you.

>>961247
>2. Danzo’s sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.

>>961269
>>961247
Gud reasoning

>>961247
>2. Danzo’s sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.
What matters is that you win

>>961247
>1. Danzo’s sin was his lust for greater power.

>>961247
>1. Danzo's sin was his lust for greater power
The pursuit of power itself wasn't the problem, it's that, in the end, he lost sight of what he was sacrificing for that power, and that's what led to his downfall.

>>961247
>2. Danzo’s sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.

>>961247
>1. Danzo’s sin was his lust for greater power.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

>>961247
1. Danzo’s sin was his lust for greater power.

Do not seek greater power; power on its own is pointless. Seek power for a purpose.

Is that regard, the fact that Danzo 'lusted' after power, as it became its own end rather than a means to the end of a more prosperous Konoha, is his chief failing.

>>961247
>2. Danzo’s sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.

>>961289
>>961297
>>961300
>>961306
You guys are completely missing the problem here, don't shoot us in the foot please....

>>961269
don't bite off more than you can chew

>>961247
>1. Danzo’s sin was his lust for greater power.
"Power" shouldn't be an end to itself.

It's 2 guys.

If you do 1 she is going to think ROOT is going to stagnate since we have no ambition.

>>961322
It's actually hopeless anon, I'm flabbergasted at how completely they're failing this.

THIS IS THE INTRO TO THE INTRIGUE THING, baby wheels for fuck's sake

>>961247
>2. Danzo’s sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.

>>961314
Are they really? So far Kogoto has been focused almost entirely on ROOT's aims and effectiveness, the well-being of the "whole hive". Her entire CLAN is about that.

>>961276
>>961247
Changing to
>2. Danzo’s sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.

>>961314
It's pretty straightforward.

He got too greedy for power, he crossed a line in order to do so, and his shit started crumbling down around him once others learned of it.

The pursuit of power itself didn't damn him, it was his loss of perspective in doing so that damned him; his successfully obtaining the power or not wouldn't change that.

>>961314
>>961322
This. That and the entire purpose here is stating whether or not we recognize that there is a need for more power than Konoha currently has, that we need more power, a force called ROOT to do what ANBU and other normal ninjas are not willing to do. Danzo may have lusted for power, but his ultimate goal has never changed; for the safety and prosperity of Konoha. Hell, he was even reluctant to restart ROOT when we first suggested the idea to him, and had to convince him it was still needed. How could that kind of a man be so simply defined as a man who lusted after too much power?

Guys think long and hard.

We are talking about the formation of an organization that GETS SHIT DONE BLACK OPS STYLE THAT HELPS LEAF GO TO NEW HEIGHTS

The most important part is completing the mission. Danzo failed what he set out to do and got ROOT dissolved because of it. That's the main issue.

>>961335
Yes anon, think about what she wants and who she supports. Power is a good thing, the Aburame have been slowly amassing power in the background for as long as the village has existed.

They're lust for power isn't being punished because of how they're going about it. Saying lusting for power is wrong is showing a lack of conviction in our and ROOTs ideals.

>>961247

1. Danzo’s sin was his lust for greater power.

>>961247
>2. Danzo’s sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.

>>961247
2. Danzo’s sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.
Root is disbanded, we frivolously turned a good ninja, shi-sui against us along with allowing the corruption of orochimaru. I think he could have done a bit better.

>>961247
>2. Danzo’s sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.
Rule #1 of ROOT: complete the mission.
ROOT was all about seeking power, doing anything and everything possible no matter the consequences. Murder, kidnapping, blackmail, treason, everything was permitted and expected, except failure.

>>961348
Either way could be contrived into that belief though.

1 could suggest that he couldn't control his desire for more power, leading him to act recklessly and ultimately damn ROOT.

2 could suggest that the pursuit of power was fine but that he wouldn't have fucked up if he had gone about it differently.

>>961247
>2. Danzo’s sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.

>>961363
>2 could suggest that the pursuit of power was fine but that he wouldn't have fucked up if he had gone about it differently.
This is exactly what I believe, that while he was trying to achieve the goals of ROOT by whatever means he had to use, he failed in the attempt and fucked up too much, hence leading up to the disbanding of ROOT.

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>>961357
>>961362
>>961367
>1s all agreeing

>>961375
Yeah, 2 already won. Samefagging isn't cool. Also >>961351

>all these single-post votes

>>961247
>2. Danzo’s sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.

>>961375
>>961378
>>961384

And?

>>961373
Then let's focus on what we agree on:
>His error was in fucking up, be it in seeking power too recklessly or in failing to secure the power he desired

>>961388
It has all the signs of samefaggotry

>>961378
>>961384
>>961375
This happens every vote guys. Deal with it. Lurkers hang out until they feel like saying something or happen to check the thread while a vote is ongoing. People also have dynamic IPs.

>>961394
It doesn't happen every vote.

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Lawdy.

Writing~

>>961394
Except it doesn't happen every vote.

And this vote was obviously especially contentious.

>>961399
huehuehuehue....

>>961401
>>961397
I mean every contentious vote. 90% of the people reading this thread don't vote on 90% of the choices. We're a silent mass, usually content to observe from a distance but occasionally streaming in from the countryside and ransacking the carefully laid plans of more active posters.

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>>961399
TRACE ON

>>961418
And that conveniently makes you all indistinguishable from samefags.

Yeah, no. There are some who lurk like that, likely including yourself, but there's a good reason why the default assumption is otherwise.

>>961418
This I can get. In fact, for most of the quest I read, I generally don't vote until I read the entire archive, and then understand the setting, characters, and rules well enough to know what to vote for. I don't like messing up the story of the quest when older voters knows better on what to do.

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>>961423

>>961423
Tsuki's eyes needs some work

>>961423
DELICIOUS. MOCHA. MONEY. PRINCESS.

>>961438
Sorry for not participating actively then.

>>961418
There is a difference between lurking and ONE POST ONLY voters.

>>961455
Lurking is fine and all, but even just a post or two can make a different.

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>>961423
You spoil me.

>>961457
And you're an expert on telling them apart? Teach me your mystical ways, anon.

>>961438
There's really not, dude.

>>961484
Samefagging can ruin quests, and whenever it happens people start thinking it's okay if the opposition is doing it.

The safest solution is to just call it out whenever it appears, so people don't go thinking that it's an acceptable thing to do. I distinctly remember seeing people literally bragging about "saving a quest" through samefagging on the /qtg/ months back when quests were still on /tg/. So don't tell me that that shit doesn't happen.

>>961484
People that post once. A lurker can say one other thing like the guy did above.

>>961508
>"Saving a quest"

How so?

>>961513
"My decision was the right way! By making the quest go that way I saved it from the badwrongfun anons!"

>>961508
>Wrestlequest
Still salty about that

>>961513
Anons who think that being "right" means they should have more say than other anons.

>>961518
What happened?

>>961523
Samefagging is pretty terrible yeah.

In this case 2 was the Objectively right answer but I see what you mean.

>>961539
So we want on a date or two with this girl who was this nerdy chick and our best friend confessed to us and we decided we wanted to be with her so we broke it off. Sleepyanon got pissed and samefagged a voted to tell our friend who was into our new girlfriend that we weren't even sure we wanted to be with her since she confessed when we had a concussion. He told her and our girlfriend broke up with us the other girl was disgusted and slapped us ruining our relationship with both of them and ruining our relationships with everyone we worked with.

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So who do you think would be sympathetic to ROOT's mission

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“His sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.” You decide after a few moments.

Kagoto smiles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mdo1K9i8KY

“Spoken like a true shinobi. Our world scarcely tolerates the weak- and the weak are punished disproportionately to the strong. The strong must lead the weak- until the weak themselves are able to become strong. If they cannot, or will not, then they submit to the will of the strong, to remain safe. Some may say that Danzo’s actions were immoral- I will tell you here and now, “morality” will not save anyone.

“We cannot speculate in good faith what would’ve happened if ROOT remained active, if Danzo had not failed to achieve his goals. However- such an organization without any ambition of it’s own is doomed to failure eventually. The true difference between the first three Hokage and the Fourth comes down to that very word: Ambition. Minato relegated himself to a passive role, and could do nothing but react to the world around him, rather than forcing the world to react to him and his desires- the desires of those he was sworn to protect.


The needs of the hive must always outweigh the needs of the individual. Some mistake this philosophy for collectivist weakness; while a colony of weak insects together are strong, a colony of strong insects together are stronger.

Our world revolves around strength- and to be stronger than all other guarantees our safety.”

[Kagoto’s Opinion + 2]

[Kagoto’s Opinion has reached 5/5]

“I ask one final question of you, Tsuki Norihime. Danzo failed once before. While the man and I share a history, I am cautious to dedicate my clansmen to a cause knowing that such an instance could repeat itself. So, my question: What will you do differently to ensure ROOT’s success?”


You consider your thoughts….


1. Danzo has learned from his mistake, and will not fail again.

2. I will prevent Danzo from failing to achieve the power he needs.

3. If Danzo fails, I will achieve that power in his stead.

4. I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.

>>961553
>4. I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.

>>961553
>4. I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.

>>961553
Not sure what to vote, but 1 is objectively wrong.

>>961553
>3. If Danzo fails, I will achieve that power in his stead.
He is planning to put us in charge after him so its the truth

>>961553
>>3. If Danzo fails, I will achieve that power in his stead.

>>961553
>3. If Danzo fails, I will achieve that power in his stead.

>>961553
>3. If Danzo fails, I will achieve that power in his stead.

>>961553
>3.If Danzo fails, I will achieve that power in his stead.

Hoo boy. Not sure what to do here. It kinda sounds like we're deciding wether we go full ROOT or not.

>>961553
1. Danzo has learned from his mistake, and will not fail again.

>>961553
>3. If Danzo fails, I will achieve that power in his stead.
If Danzo fucks up again, we'll be there to set ROOT back on the right track.

>>961553
4. I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.
>>961564
Very much so. I am torn between 3 and 4 so I went with my 1st instinct.

>>961553
>4. I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.

>>961553
>4. I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.
The only TRUE answer, to take up that task ourselves directly in order to ensure the success of ROOT, and the prosperity and safety of Konoha along with it. Do remember that while Danzo has a lot more of the knowledge and wisdom of the old, it is us to us, the younger and stronger generation to take up the actual doing of the tasks. That means Tsuki needs to be responsible directly to help ROOT to get what it needs. Tsuki ain't just helping Danzo, she's doing this out of her own will and purpose.

>>961553
>3. If Danzo fails, I will achieve that power in his stead.

>>961553
>4. I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.
With my own two hands, i will bring down the hammer of god upon those that would destroy the village and people i've come to love.

>>961553
>>961564
>3. If Danzo fails, I will achieve that power in his stead.
I think if we got our opinion higher she'd support us, but right now I very much doubt she would believe that we would be strong enough to lead ROOT /right now/.

>>961553
>4. I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.

On second thought, we just talked about never failing. 4 is better than 3.

>>961553
>4. I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.
We will not let the ROOTs wither, another will take up the mantle of Danzo, over and over. The Tree will grow, should a root become infected we will simply cut it off. Should one die, the others will grow stronger.

Hope for success and plan for failure.

>>961553
>4. I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.

>>961553
deleting >>961578

4. I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.

>>961594
>I very much doubt she would believe that we would be strong enough to lead ROOT /right now/.
Of course. We are inexperienced and not nearly strong enough yet. What we should do however, is show the willingness to take up the task of being it's leader in the FUTURE, that we are striving for gaining the power ROOT needs.

>>961553
Changing >>961569
to
>4. I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.

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>>961553
>3

>>961590
A fair assesment.

Also just want to say Kagoto's philosophy is pretty damn compelling, at least in a world as fucked up as this one. I want to adopt her as our grandmaru.

>>961553
>4. I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.

>>961553
>3. If Danzo fails, I will achieve that power in his stead.

>>961553
>4. I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.

>>961553
Fuck it, changing this >>961577
to this
>4 I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.

For those picking 3 remember we just made it clear that ANYONE FAILING AND ESSPECIALLY ALLOWING ANYONE TO FAIL IN ROOT IS BAD.

Pick 4.