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>You are Maple Son-Mahogany, one of two young Tuffle twins thrown at Earth starting in early Dragon Ball by your "father," Dr. Raichi

>"Canon" had already taken a sharp turn from the "norm" when you began, and through your actions, choices, and dialogue, took even further turns from the "norm," and will probably continue to do so

>Stats and dice mechanics are used, and can be explained again as needed

>Let's all try to have some fun, ok?

And a pastebin: http://pastebin.com/ZqciGHnQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO_Lpb2f6d4

Last time, on Dragon Ball Tuffle Quest Z! You took some time to relax with your friends and family, checking in with Chuu Lee as she trains Videl, getting Gohan and Peppa to learn how to use the Raio-ken, and meeting with Trip to learn what you need to take on the next step along the Noble Eightfold Path. And so you’ve thought about this conundrum...
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>>919485
Holding you back. Do you really have that hard of a time accepting that you could fail all of this? That your best efforts could be in vain, that you can’t prevent a future like the one Gohan and Pantea warned you about? That... deep down, you don’t want to accept failures like that? You cross your arms and think hard.

“Quite a conundrum you’re going through, Maple.” Konpei states, sitting with you in a meditative pose.

“Yeah. I mean... I get that it’s difficult, but why isn’t it clicking for me?”

The elephant man gives you a calm look. “Perhaps because you always look to the future and try to change it for the better. You’ve avoided devastating failures time and time again, often by quick judgement, sometimes by pure luck.”

“I guess I have been really lucky...” you admit.

Konpei rubs his chin. “What about your fight with Vegeta?”

You shrug slightly. “I mean... yeah, I lost, I could have won, but I had faith in Piccolo, Chuu Lee, and my Goku. Plus with Towa out there causing mischief, I kinda had other things on my mind. Plus... well, Chuu Lee beat him and renewed one of my bets, right? So all that’s left is the Dragon Ball w-”

As if on cue, a strong and familiar presence can be felt arriving on Earth. Vegeta’s back, and it’s been a year...

>A. You know what? He can wait. Stay with Konpei and figure this out
>B. Head to Capsule Corp, kids should be done with Kindergarten right about now
>C. Get in contact with some people, try to meet Vegeta as he lands
>D. Something else?
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>>919491
>D. Oh jeez, not THIS guy...
>B. Head to Capsule Corp, kids should be done with Kindergarten right about now
They could have fun in the labyrinth of eternity while we figure things with Konpei
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>>919491
>A. You know what? He can wait. Stay with Konpei and figure this out
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>>919491
>A.
Finally.
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>>919491
A, vegeta is a bitch who jobbed to chuu li even when towa empowered, so he really isnt a concern
Besides, we aint the only folks who sense ki
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>>919491
>A. You know what? He can wait. Stay with Konpei and figure this out
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Does Konpei's Palace have time?
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>>919616
Or, more to the point, which parts of his palace have the time weird? Is it just the labyrinth part?
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>>919616
>>919625
Given the HTC and Konpei's Labyrinth, would it be possible to enchant a sword with quicker time to where it would be more shock absorbent?
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>>919491
>A. You know what? He can wait. Stay with Konpei and figure this out

>D. Ask about full power Raioken
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>>919491
You shrug and continue with trying to deal with this. Vegeta can wait. Konpei smiles at your reaction. “Most interesting.”

“Not like I’m the only one who can sense Ki. Besides, he did earn it.” you respond. “And I want to figure this out.”

Konpei notes your choice of words. “I think... yes, that’s probably it.”

“Pardon?”

Konpei chuckles. “I believe I know the thing that’s holding you back the most. The thing you really need to break through.”

You look towards the elephant man attentively. “I’m listening.”

“It’s... well, your friends. Your allies.”

“...how so?” you ask skeptically.

“It is more than you yourself who managed to stop countless disasters. You had people that you could depend on to save the day with you.” Konpei starts, a calm look across his face. “If you fail, you have others that you can rely on. Deep in your mind, this is what is truly keeping you from accepting the possibility that you, and everyone, could fail. Just like you mentioned, you believed Goku, Piccolo, and Chuu Lee could take Vegeta down. And Chuu Lee did.”

You rub the back of your neck. Well...

>A. That’s... a good point, I guess
>B. Not so sure about that
>C. Well, how can I not have faith in them? They’re my friends, I trust them, I know I can depend on them
>D. You’ve got a different question, about the Raio-ken
>E. Something else?
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>E. Hm, I could Instant Transmission any threats off of the planet to a secluded area and deal with it myself rather than rely on fallbacks...
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>>919656
>A.
>C.

>>919663
>Instant Transmission
>Secluded planet
How?
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>>919668
King Kai's/Sacred Planet of Kais works, and plants don't have souls.
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>>919674
>getting King Kai killed
Okay Goku.
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>>919656
>C. Well, how can I not have faith in them? They’re my friends, I trust them, I know I can depend on them
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>Was rereading Tuffle Quest
>Saw this post
>IMO Chuu Lee is a huge distraction that will never obtain anywhere near a consequential power level, but we'll keep training her anyways and weaken ourselves doing so.
>I kekd. I kekd a lot.
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>>919668
>How?
Space Potatoes.
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>>919691
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Did Piccolo and Vegeta fight in the tournament?
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>>919656
>A. That’s... a good point, I guess

"Hey you know who would be able to weigh in on this? The Maple inside of my head. She's really good with this stuff. She's a mind full."

>E. Something else?
In a way I have failed. I failed the mission Ghost Dad put me and Brobro on this planet and instead I married the very thing I was sent to destroy.
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>>919691
>>919706
...what?

>>919689
>Beat Goku and Vegeta in the same tournament
So proud of her.
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>>919726
>...what?
We give ki to potatoes, or "Potatonauts," and send them off into space for us to IT to and from.
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>>919734
>Not calling them Taternauts
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>>919734
That's stupid.
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>>919739
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>>919724
>In a way I have failed. I failed the mission Ghost Dad put me and Brobro on this planet and instead I married the very thing I was sent to destroy.
Nah, that's considered, in the words of Carlos Estevez, WINNING!
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>>919724
Backing this too
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So how should the rocketships be designed, people?
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>>919765
Maybe like this even?
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>>919793
Or maybe even,
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>>919656
“Aheh... w-well, that is a good point. But how can I NOT rely on them? They’re my friends, they’ve been there for me nearly all my life. I trust them, I depend on them. We all help each other to become stronger, and face challenges we can’t on our own together.”

“And so you don’t feel like you can lose, with them around.” Konpei comments. “You struggle to accept that you could fail, even with them aiding you.”

You sigh. “I... guess.” Well... crap. “Well, hey, brobro and I did fail at something, didn’t we? At Ghost Dad’s mission?”

Konpei chuckles softly, trunk letting out a joyful sound. “It is no wonder King Kai finds you so amusing.”

“Yeah yeah, I know...” Well, worth a shot. “...Lord Konpei, almost every time I’ve been able to take my next step along the path, a sort of... well, ‘me’ inside my mind seemed to be able to show me the way. Is there some way I could get her help in this?”

Konpei hovers closer to you, eyeing you curiously. “Hmnn... if I were to guess, that is nothing more than your subconscious mind helping you along. You figure out the steps, but sometimes you need an extra push to make it through to really realize it. In time, perhaps ‘she’ will help you realize this too.”

You suddenly sense the arrival of several other strong Power Levels, six in total, with some weaker ones along with them as well. And... wait, no, you know who these people are. Agh, why now of all times?! “...I guess I did owe the boy a rematch for our race.”

“Mm. Something tells me that he is not here for that.” Konpei comments. “What will you do, Maple? Do you wish to meet with young Kuriza?”

Kuriza. And the Ginyu Force. And who knows what else. Gods damn it...

>A. Konpei, we’ll continue this later. These are people I need to meet
>B. ...stay there, meditate, and try to see if you can put these pieces together in your mind
>C. Something else?
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>>919882
>A. Konpei, we’ll continue this later. These are people I need to meet.
>C. Hold up, we need a change in wardrobe for this chance encounter. It just feels right.
I want a Lina Inverse styled Dr. Raichi outfit.
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>>919882
>A. Konpei, we’ll continue this later. These are people I need to meet
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>>919882
>A. Konpei, we’ll continue this later. These are people I need to meet

>C. Something else?
....Are you interested in fusion at all Konpei? I believe that could tell us more about this and with your ki control we'd learn a lot and so could you.
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>>919931
This
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>>919931
This as fuck
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>>919882
>>919902
Supporting, I'd like to confront them in disguise to see how strong they are before introducing ourselves.

Can masks block Ginyu's bodyswap?
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Ooh, we should wear a mask and helmet like pic related's, but with a maple leaf as the crest.
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“Lord Konpei, would you mind if we continue this later?” you ask, clapping your hands together. “Please?”

“But of course. Nothing is keeping you, Maple.” he chuckles in response.

You stand... and then recall something. “O-oh! For next time, would you be at all interested in the Fusion technique? You know a lot about Ki control, maybe you could help us with it.”

He gives you a curious smile in return. “Ah, the Fusion technique. There may be some things I can do for you, if you have a chance.”

“Thanks, Lord Konpei! You’re the best!”

Okay, with that set, you tap two fingers to your forehead... ah, but wait, maybe you should get something different for when you meet them.

>A. Eh, you’re fine in your regular Turtle School Master Gi
>B. Go for something pretty, formal, and fashionable
>C. Put on something with shoulder pads, and a cool cape!
>D. Proper disguise would be the smart choice
>E. Something else?
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>>920046
D
Fake moustache time
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>>920055
This!
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>>920046
>C. Put on something with shoulder pads, and a cool cape!
>D. Proper disguise would be the smart choice
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>>920046
>E. Something else?
Dress up like a Ginyu Member but with a Vegeta wig and a fake tail and change our scouter to match Geet's.
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>>920064
We're even the right height for it! Don't forget the moustache to signify that time has passed.
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>>920046
>D
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Oooookay! You’ve got a good idea! Vegeta wig, mustache, and something to look inconspicuous. You have the PERFECT DISGUISE! Now, to figure out where Kuriza landed...

...huh. Seems he tracked Vegeta too. Oh this is going to be good... Let’s see, who else is there. Piccolo... Goku, the kids, and seems some other people are on their way. You teleport to them, trying to appear out of the line of sight of the two visiting factions.

You lock on to a weaker Ki signature and appear behind one of the soldiers. Seems they’re on the ground... and oh gods your ears OW.

“YOU MUST BE AS FOOLISH AS YOUR FATHER IF YOU THINK YOU CAN WASTE -MY- WISH ON BRINGING HIM BACK!” Vegeta roars at the boy.

“Your anger has been noted, Prince Vegeta. And if you stand in my way, I’ll make it so Nappa there will need to bring YOU back.” Kuriza responds with a harsh glare. Around him are the Ginyu Force, all lined up together, and a smaller person in what looks like armored... robes? Huh? He almost looks like a Koala. Nappa stands with Vegeta, arms crossed.

In the distance, Goku, Piccolo, and the kids watch the scene from afar. Peppa... seems to notice you and waves.

>A. Get closer to the shouting, even if your ears will hate you for it
>B. Earplugs earplugs EARPLUG OW
>C. Interrupt, some people need to chill out
>D. Wave to Peppa and ask Piccolo and Goku what they’re doing there
>E. Something else?
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>>920198
>E. Materialize an ice cream truck and drive it to them. Offer them some ice cream for munniez.
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>>920198
Didn't we go up to two wishes now?

>E. Something else?
Act like we're Vegeta and interact with the group as such.

>The true prince of all Saiyans has finally arrived! Where is that tuffle woman at? I want to call her bad names and be very tsundere! Then I'll make googly eyes at Go- Kakarot but pretend I don't like him one bit!
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>>920198
>B. Earplugs earplugs EARPLUG OW
>Then get closer
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>>920235
>Didn't we go up to two wishes now?
No, that's just the abridged.
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>>920235
>>The true prince of all Saiyans has finally arrived! Where is that tuffle woman at? I want to call her bad names and be very tsundere! Then I'll make googly eyes at Go- Kakarot but pretend I don't like him one bit!
Have we been playing the same quest?
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>>920198
>B.
>D.

>>920246
We get two now, remember?
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>>920260
>We get two now, remember?
Apparently not, when did this happen?
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>>920268
When Katas Jr. came back from Namek and we learned more about the dragon ball's negative energy build up and some hints towards Shadow Dragons. He upgraded them balls with lessons from Moori I believe.
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>>920268
Last time the Dragon got summoned
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>>920235
>>920254
Like, Vegeta and Goku have never fought in this, so he'd have no reason to consider him a rival other than the whole "Super Saiyan" thing, which Raditz got as well. Raditz would be more of a rival to him than Kakarot would ever be.
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>>920315
I was mostly making an exaggeration on my part.

And actually Chuu Lee would more of Vegeta and Goku's rival really.
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>>920324
and us.
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>>920324
Your exaggeration is terrible and puts a bunch of your shit in our mouth desu senpai~
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>>920342
Sorry, it's hard to speak with all this shit you put in my mouth
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Guys...

>>920198
You quickly materialize some earplugs and move in closer, one of the soldiers noticing you and giving you a funny look, but otherwise not commenting on your being there. He’s too focused on the argument ahead of him. Well... this could be bad.

“You will hand me those wishing orbs and let me bring my father back.” Kuriza demands to Vegeta. “We need him! The PTO is going to crumble without him!”

“Then you were fools for depending on him in the first place!” Vegeta responds. “Do you want to meet him that badly?” he asks with a smug grin... and transforms. “Then face me you brat! Face the Super Saiyan that sent him to Hell!”

“Tch, the runt isn’t even worth it, Vegeta.” Nappa comments smugly. “Go home, Kuriza. Unless you want us to put an end to your family line for good.”

You... feel Kuriza’s Ki start to rise too. But he keeps his composure after the small, Koala-looking alien near him grunts. You... can also spot him tremble slightly. He’s trying his best not to show it, but a whirlwind of emotions are going through his mind. Anger, sadness, fury, fear...

Fear most of all. The boy is... terrified. He doesn’t want to be here, especially with Vegeta around.

>A. Keep watching
>B. Vegeta, leave him alone!
>C. YOU’RE NOT A SUPER SAIYAN, I AM! (Do your best Vegeta impression)
>D. Piccolo, Goku, you guys have a plan?
>E. Something else?
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>>920407
>D. Piccolo, Goku, you guys have a plan?
>B. Vegeta, leave him alone!
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>>920407
>E. telepathically -Stay Frosty.- to Kuriza
>C. I FOUND YOU, FAKER!
>Hallowed Rush Vegeta without saying the name.
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>>920407
C
We really should take kuriza aside later to explain some things about his father, as hard as its going to be
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>>920407
>B.
>D.
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>>920407
>C. YOU’RE NOT A SUPER SAIYAN, I AM! (Do your best Vegeta impression)

>color beam the wing gold

>E. Something else?

"I've performed the ritual to become a Super Saiyan God! How's that for something beyond Super Saiyan!"
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>>920429
the wig*
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>>920407
>>920420
Actually, leave the part with the Hallowed Rush out, let's not throw the first punch here lest he accuse us of going back on our deal.
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>>920407
>small, Koala-looking alien


Huh.

Never connected a Koala to Sorbet...


SCAN HIS AWESOME RING LASER!
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‘Piccolo, Goku? What’s the plan here?’ you question telepathically, clenching your fist.

‘Krillin and Lapis are gathering the Dragon Balls.’ the Namekian responds. ‘This is going to get ugly, quick.’

‘No it isn’t.’ you state with determination. Okay Maple, best Vegeta impression you can manage, some blonde for the wig and mustache...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxZseqgBjvw

“I’VE FOUND YOU, IMPOSTOR! THE REAL SUPER SAIYAN IS HERE!” you shout gruffly, leaping into the fray. “SO YOU SHOW YOUR FACE ONCE MORE! BUT YOUR MUSTACHE-LESS MUG IS NO MATCH FOR MY POWER!” You glance towards Nappa. “NAPPA, MY OLD COMRADE, THIS ONE HAS DECEIVED YOU! QUICKLY, GET RID OF HIM BEFORE HE-”

“Tuffle, what the actual Hell are you doing?” Vegeta asks, slightly dumbfounded.

>A. Keep the gig up! I AM NO TUFFLE, IMPOSTOR!
>B. Keeping you from hurting the boy, what do you think?
>C. Explain about the Dragon Balls, they can grant two wishes
>D. Something else?
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>>920528
>D. I THINK -YOU'RE- THE TUFFLE AROUND HERE, HALF-SAIYAN SCUM!
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>Sees Kato's post
The fuck just happened?
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>>920528
Hahahahaha
>A.
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>>920528
>A. Keep the gig up! I AM NO TUFFLE, IMPOSTOR!
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>>920528
Throw his own words at him.

>You... I have marked you for DEATH, imposter! You and everyone you hold dear! I will enjoy watching the life fade from your eyes as despair overtakes you! I AM VEGETA, PRINCE OF SAIYANS, AND I WILL FINISH WHAT MY FOOL OF A FATHER COULDN'T AND WIPE YOUR FROM EXISTENCE!"

>"Everything will be instantly better the second your life is extinguished."

Say it maniacally.
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Rolled 1, 15, 20, 10, 12 = 58 (5d20)

Hmm...
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I think Vegeta's right about Kuriza, if he wants the big space empire then he should train himself to be strong enough to own it. But we're not telling Vegeta that he's right of course, I just don't want our alien friends to bite it.
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>>920611
Actually, if we could just talk to Vegeta privately, we could maybe convince him to beat up these people instead of slaying them, what with a machine out there that enslaves the souls of all who die because of Saiyans and their increased strength and undying nature.
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>>920645
We should probably mention that tidbit to Kuriza.

He might not even be able to wish Frieza back if Ghost Dad has him.

Hell, they can refuse revivals anyway.

>Why not just revive all the people in Raichi's machine?
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“I AM NO TUFFLE, IMPOSTOR! I AM THE -REAL- VEGETA, PRINCE OF SAIYANS! AND YOU, TUFFLE, WILL MEET THE FATE OF THE REST OF YOUR RACE!” Huh. So this is why he does things like this, it’s so fun. “MUWAHAHAHA! NAPPA GET TO IT, REMOVE THIS IMPOSTOR AT ONCE!”

Nappa’s palm makes fond acquaintance with his face. “Why today. Why like this. Please make it stop.”

Vegeta’s aura flares around him. “TUFFLE, SHUT THE HELL UP!” He pulls his fist back...

https://youtu.be/OvIecl-7o2s

“NO HURT MAMA!” Peppa screams, bolting at Vegeta and decking him in the face hard enough to make him stumble and knock your wig away.

Oh one hand, well, there goes trying to stall this.

On the other hand... well, wow.

“Miss Maple? Is that really you?” Kuriza questions, a bit more hope in his voice.

“Hah, that lil’ redhead’s showing up to show up that monkey jerk!” Ginyu comments. “Been a while, Miss.”

“M-Mrs.” you laugh out, Peppa moving in front of you defensively. The Ginyus and Kuriza then take note of the little Super Saiyan standing before you, tilting their heads curiously.

Vegeta pushes himself up. “Tch. So you DO plan to interfere? Go back on your word like the coward you are?!”

>A. Vegeta, calm down. The Dragon Balls can grant TWO wishes!
>B. Stop picking fights with little kids, the Dragon Balls will be here shortly
>C. Peppa, please go back to papa for a bit
>D. Pat Peppa on the head, she can stay
>E. Something else?
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>>920721
"I needed to talk to Kuriza about something, and I had to interrupt your argument somehow before it got out of hand. you can still have your wish."
Dad talk time probably
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>>920721
>D. Pat Peppa on the head, she can stay
>E. Nah, I just wanna test your abilities since you've been gone a year, and the way to do that is to get you mad.
>But I do agree with your reasoning on Kuriza's weakness. However, it'd be bad for me if you killed them.
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>>920721
>A.
>D.
And this >>920744
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>>920721

>Coward

Says the man who begged us to euthanize him in our first fight because we took his tail and beat him up real good.

>END THIS, MAPLE! LET ME DIE WITH WHAT LITTLE PRIDE I HAVE LEFT!

>A. Vegeta, calm down. The Dragon Balls can grant TWO wishes!

>E. Something else?

"Vegeta. I can still help you grant your wish without needing to use the Dragon Balls. In fact there's something you need to know..."

>Telepathically tell him the negative energy build up and how the wishes effect it.

As for Frieza-pop? Well I'd prefer to help train Kuriza personally. Get him and the Ginyu's Raioken.

Hell, Sorbet can come too!
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You sigh loudly. “Oh calm down already, Vegeta! Geeze, that temper is going to be the death of you. Listen, both of you: the Dragon Balls can grant TWO wishes.” You pat Peppa on the head gently. So proud of her.

Kuriza’s face lights up estatically. “R-really?”

“...hmnh.” the Saiyan prince grunts dismissively. “And what makes you think I won’t get both?”

“Because the bet was for ONE wish.” Piccolo states, finally approaching. “Unless you want to lose to Chuu Lee again, I suggest taking that and leaving the matter be.”

“Tch. Are you so sure of that, Namekian?” Vegeta asks with a glare.

“Even as a Super Saiyan, you can’t beat her. You’ve improved, but it’s not enough.” Goku comments. “Heh, not even I can beat her at this point. Buuuut it’d be really close, I bet.”

“Butt out of this Kakarot!"” Vegeta snaps.

“Look, you don’t need to fight over this.” Gods, Gohan and Peppa are less of a hassle than him. “But... we do need to talk with Kuriza for a moment. So can you calm down and wait for the Dragon Balls?”

Vegeta crosses his arms and goes back to base, Nappa glaring at you but saying nothing. You catch a small, approving nod from him for at least you getting Vegeta to chill.

“Really...? Oh! I’m sorry Mrs. Maple, I’ll have to conquer your planet later, I need to bring my dad back.” he replies cheerfully.

“It’s been awful without Lord Freeza around.” Ginyu states. “Rebellions everywhere, even on places like Brench!”

Jeice looks down glumly. “And those soldiers we were given keep being pushed back. Even the mighty Ginyu Force can’t be everywhere at once.”

...ah. Ahh. They... don’t know.

>A. Ask about the soldiers, who are they?
>B. What about King Cold, and Cooler?
>C. Kuriza... your dad was kinda a jerk
>D. Something else?
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>>920998
>D. Something else?

Can we just show them?

I feel like it would be much easier if we showed them with telepathy and words won't convey all the right things.


The battle on Brench, the PTO invasion of Earth..all of it. Especially our death by Robo Kold.
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Why is Nappa all Papa Bear over Vegeta hear when in Xenoverse it's shown that the first thing he'd do once Vegeta is in a weaker state is off him?

>>920998
>D. Do you really need that many planets? Why not just rule over how many you feel like?
>If you're not strong enough to keep what you have, then you should probably strengthen yourselves more.
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>>920998
Maybe, uhh...
Take kuriza aside, and explain that frieza wouldn't want his son to give up. He miht miss his father, but everyone has their own time - nobody belongs in the living world forever, and the mantle of responsibility must always be passed on. Kuriza has to weather these challenges and grow into the kind of person he has the potential to become. In short, try to get kuriza to step up to the job and grow into a responsible person that the PTO needs. And hell, the kid has ginyu to teach him what he needs to know.
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>>921051
>has ginyu to teach him
We have an opportunity to influence a space empire's future and you're leaving it up to Ginyu of all people?
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>>920998
These >>921023
>>921051

>>921027
Is our Nappa stronger than Vegeta? Did Xenoverse Nappa see Vegeta beat Frieza? No? So think before you complain.
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>>921051
Kuriza better pose better then us then if the Ginyus are teaching him.
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>>921074
I don't see why Nappa and even Raditz are portrayed with these honorable personalities when they would turn on their comrades as soon as an opportunity presented itself.
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>>921092
Gee I wonder what happened.
It's almost like Raditz had character development.
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>>921051
And don't tell him about the time we wished our brother back from the dead, right?

>>921097
What was the character development you speak of?
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>>921102
Oh I should have known. You're the shitposter.
Filtered.
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>>921110
What was the character development that changed Raditz to where he's not a dick, it should be a simple question to answer if it's evident, right?
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Guys, please, play nice.
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>>921110
>>921117
Was it the Crane School? Was it having a niece and nephew? Was it Earth's Peace?

Did all those things completely rewrite his personality to where he wouldn't throw pocket sand at an opponent if it would help him some?
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>>921188
I forgot, he used the Pendulum Room to interact with his father, and even Baba's to interact with his mother. However, I still don't understand why he wouldn't connive his way to the top by fucking others over.
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I went through the archives real quick to re-read things.

Raditz went from his cocky canon self to the way he is now for a variety of reasons.

The fact he was waaaay underpowered.

The talk with his mother at Baba's also helped.

His training with both Piccolo and the Crane school taught him more then just techniques I imagine.

He no longer wanted to be Vegeta and Nappa's lackey and treated like a warrior worthy of respect.

He actually got to fight Nappa and prove himself.

His fight on Brench against Super 13 also had him nearly doing the dance showing that he was willing to put aside his pride for the sake of the group. Had that not be interrupted...
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>>921243
Thank you SwordAnon. He should still be a dick for the side of good, though, anything else would be like he was a completely different person.
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So is Nappa chilled out and protective of Vegeta because of the bars on Earth?
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>>921272
Why doesn't he smack talk/rage rant as much as Vegeta does? He was maybe a little bit more mouthy than Vegeta in the screentime they shared together.
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>>919636
How would that even work? Besides which, sword enchanting is something we go to a master smith for.
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>>921310
Say, if you could move really fast, and tap something with your finger, whatever you tapped would break, right?

So if we made our sword go really fast, it would not break when it hit something.
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Vegeta smack talks because we beat the fuck out of him. As for the Nappa thing? Well...Nappa did raise Vegeta. The only other person who was there just as much was Frieza and we clearly see his influence. Vegeta killing Nappa in-series was his cathartic way of killing the father who failed him and since he killed Frieza that need is already fulfilled. Sparing Nappa's life and allowing him to be big poppa Naps.

Raditz is more demure and probably just knows better to start talking shit.

Then non-Saiyan after all are shown quite capable of fighting evenly/beating SSJ's.
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>>920998
You gulp slightly. “This... is going to be hard to explain. But maybe I can just show you guys instead?”

“Show us what?” Kuriza asks.

“Of... well, the series of events that led to your grandpa trying to kill me and technically succeeding. I guess.”

You get to work by sharing, telepathically, a good chunk of what all transpired. Lazuli discovering Cooler’s manipulations of his people. Freeza’s conquests, him destroying Plant. Lazuli’s retaliation against Cooler... and Cold getting killed in the crossfire. And the eventual invasion of Earth. Cooler and King Cold coming for revenge. Freeza coming for the Dragon Balls. Cooler’s defeat, Freeza’s demise, and... King Cold killing you.

“Stop!” Kuriza asks, falling to his knees. “You... you...”

“I know why you want him back, Kuriza. But is... is it really worth it?” you ask, getting to your knees as well. “Or do you think you can be a better person than him? Look... I know what the PTO is, I know what you guys have been through. But I believe you all can take it and make it something better, can’t you?”

Ginyu looks away. “Hmnh. All I’m going to say to you is that... well, the Armored Squadron got what was coming to them.”

Sorbet approaches. “That’s a nice speech and all, but you’re forgetting one thing: the Planet Trade Organization, and especially the Freeza Force, were forged through the fires of war and conquest. Hence the rebellions. We NEED an imposing leader to keep it together. Kuriza is not his father, strong as he may be. People love the boy... but few respect him. Fewer still fear him.”

“Um...” Gohan starts, approaching. “I’ve... been reading books about this. This would have happened eventually anyway. Freeza couldn’t last forever.”

“And who are you to say that?!” Sorbet demands, causing the boy to hide behind you.

“W-well, that’s just the thing though! Big empires held together by conquest don’t last more than a couple generations without breaking apart unless they have reform in some way.”

>A. An excellent point, Gohan! Look, Earth probably has plenty of minor examples for you
>B. Kuriza... do you still want to bring your dad back?
>C. So, you guys can change it. Make it less like the thing Freeza held together and more like... I don’t know, how the Galactic King runs things?
>D. Something else?
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>>921399
>A. An excellent point, Gohan! Look, Earth probably has plenty of minor examples for you
>B. Kuriza... do you still want to bring your dad back?
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>>921399
>D. Yeah, I knew this one guy called Demon King Piccolo, his kingdom didn't last more than a week before rebels offed him.
>C. So, you guys can change it. Make it less like the thing Freeza held together and more like... I don’t know, how the Galactic King runs things?
>Like, what if you protected trade routes between planets? I'm sure a lot of people would enjoy trading weird goods with each other, and even going to and from different planets. Maybe reform it into a PlanetARY Trade Organization that's beneficial for all parties involved?
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>>921399
>A. An excellent point, Gohan! Look, Earth probably has plenty of minor examples for you
>C. So, you guys can change it. Make it less like the thing Freeza held together and more like... I don’t know, how the Galactic King runs things?
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>>921399
>A.

Not just counting the people we've beaten there's also THE DICTATOR!

It's also kinda why Frieza wanted immortality, so it wouldn't ever break apart. Unless he got thrown into some sort of...zone of the dead.

>D. Suggest Soba or Ledgic as Kuriza's guardian until he's strong enough on his own?

...wait I don't think we've met Soba technically or even heard of him.

Damn and now it's too late to make him relevant.
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>>921399
>D. Just show him all the gundam movies, that's the punchline you're steering us towards right?
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>>921302
Because he probably sees himself as horribly weak in comparison to practically everyone else. I mean, he got his shit kicked by Raditz of all people here, and at their first encounter with earthlings he was the second weakest there by far (Onio being the weakest). I mean, would you smack talk the guys who could kill you with a backhand and you know it?
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>>921484
He did that a lot with Kakarot.
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>>921399
>A.
>C.
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>>921484
Speaking of Onio....whatever happened to him?
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>>921517
He went home and became a family man.
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>>921517
>Godzilla v King Kong
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>>921399
“An excellent point, Gohan!” you praise your son, ruffling his red hair. “Ah you’re getting so smart.”

Sorbet looks at you suspiciously. “Hmnh.”

“Look, it’s probably why Freeza himself tried to get the Dragon Balls. If he could live forever, he could do the same thing endlessly. But what he doesn’t realize, and what I hope a certain Saiyan prince still recalls, is that immortality is a trap and a coward’s choice.” you continue, crossing your arms. “Especially if someone stronger comes along and... oh, I dunno, traps him in a jar.”

“Or a sword!” Peppa comments.

“Or... a sword.” How would that even work? ...questions, and ideas for later. “Point is, same thing happened on Earth hundreds of years ago. Right, Piccolo?”

“Yes. My father rampaged across the planet until he was eventually trapped away.” the Namekian comments. “His reign of terror lasted less than his own lifetime. And when he returned... well, a certain little monkey and redheaded Tuffle put an end to him in less than a week.”

You and Goku can’t help but grin at that. “Hey, it wasn’t just us. Trip, Tien, Chi-chi, they all helped too.”

You look to Piccolo with an apologetic smile. He shrugs. “The point being, this is just Earth. One little planet in a vast cosmos. Freeza’s plan would fail eventually, even if it took centuries.”

Kuriza gives out a depressed sigh, grimly looking to you. “I... understand.”

“This political stuff is kinda going over my head.” Recoome comments.

“Think of it like this, if Freeza got his plan working, but someone stopped him, we’d be out of a job at best. More likely dead and forgotten.” Guldo comments, gaining glares from his fellow members. “Hey, she does have a point!”

“So... that’s why I think you guys should change it. You can make it better than what you have. Ginyu, you’ve been looking after Kuriza all this time, haven’t you?”

The purple, horned alien nods quietly.

“Then you can help him become a leader to really lead the PTO! Maybe... well, focus more on actual trade, and not just trade of planets! Think of how much more money you could make that way, for starters.” you suggest. “You know, maybe operate it more like how the Galactic King runs things.

“You have some nerve, demanding such changes from us!” Sorbet shouts. “It’s one thing to deny us bringing back Lord Freeza, but these radical changes are too far. Lord Kuriza, don’t listen to her.”

The boy... clenches his fists. He’s angry, he’s confused, and he doesn’t know what to believe. He just wants to yell and vent, but he can't.

>A. I... don’t blame you for hating us for this. But I know you can do good, Kuriza. Be a better ruler than your father, a stronger one
>B. Well what DO you suggest, Sorbet? That you should just keep doing the same, tired routine of conquest and fall into the same traps?
>C. Look to Vegeta, check if he’s calmed down
>D. Something else?
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>>921837
>D. Kuriza, just do what you feel like, and if you don't have the power to, I'd be more than happy to help you achieve that power. Just... don't include me in on any genocides and such, that's bad karma and WILL carry over into the next life. Oh yeah, speaking of next lives, your dad's soul may be enslaved by a weird machine to kill Saiyans.
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>>921837
>A.
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>>921837
Kuriza. I have a knack for foresight and divination and my Auntie Baba is even better. Let me show you how the Resurrection of Frieza would happen.


>D. Something else?
"Kuriza. Perhaps you should find yourself before you start ruling a galaxy. Find your people's home world and learn about your culture. Perhaps you have an uncle with a drinking problem or an aunt somewhere?"
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>>921837
>A. I... don’t blame you for hating us for this. But I know you can do good, Kuriza. Be a better ruler than your father, a stronger one
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>>921900
Eail is dead and so is his mythos.
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>>921900
Better yet, he could find the Arcosian Book of Legend and become a Sorcerer.
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>>921837
>A. I... don’t blame you for hating us for this. But I know you can do good, Kuriza. Be a better ruler than your father, a stronger one
>B. Well what DO you suggest, Sorbet? That you should just keep doing the same, tired routine of conquest and fall into the same traps?
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>>921837
>D. I demand nothing, I just hope I can show you that there's an alternative way of approaching the future.
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Could always go the Frost route.

Start wars, and then end them.

Buy up all the ravaged land and sell it back to the people.
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>>922018
You just want to assemble a sword made of planets.
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>>922068
Don't tease me.

The Sworld is just a myth.
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>>921837
You look at the boy with a calm, motherly smile. “Kuriza... look, I don’t blame you for hating us. But this path you’re going down isn’t one that you’re going to be forced to take. I know there’s good in you, and that you can be a better ruler than your father. But... maybe you could try to find yourself before you start trying to rule.”

“Find myself?”

“You’re young, and if you wish we could help you...” You look around to the Ginyus and the gathered soldiers. “All of you, could work to help make yourselves better.”

“Make ourselves better? Do you get paid to spout all these speeches?” Sorbet questions angrily.

You look down on the koala-like alien. “And what do you have as an alternative? That you just go back to the same tried and broken routine? Fall into the same traps that led to this? I suggest that you try to make something sustainable. You have the infactructure for it, don’t you?”

“Listen here, lady! You-”

“Sorbet, please, just... stop.” Kuriza asks. “I’ve heard what you want to say, Maple. I will consider your words.”

Aaaand Krillin and Lapis finally return. Well that’s feels like it lasted far longer than it should have. Gods. “...Kuriza, if you want, we could try and take a peek into the future and see what would happen if you did bring your dad back.”

“...maybe.”

“Fortune telling. Really.” Sorbet comments.

“Hey now, just the other day I got a fortune in a cookie that said I’d meet an old acquaintance again, and look where I ended up.” Burter comments. “Don’t knock it.”

Kuriza walks towards his ship. “Mrs. Maple... I am going to think this over. In a year’s time, I’ll return. We can survive off the things we were gifted by the Doctor for that long, and we can hold back on activities to restructure. But know... that I may not see things your way when I return.”

>A. I understand, Kuriza. Thank you
>B. Wait, Doctor? Dr. Gero? Is he still with you?
>C. Something else?
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>>922146
>A. I understand, Kuriza. Thank you
>>B. Wait, Doctor? Dr. Gero? Is he still with you?
Part of me hopes he says yes, because that means it's not Ghost Dad
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>>922146
>C. Leaving already? don't you wish to see the Dragon, or have a bite to eat, or have another race?
>Oh yeah, -take out Ginyu Badge- Is this still valid?
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>>922146
>A. I understand, Kuriza. Thank you
>B. Wait, Doctor? Dr. Gero? Is he still with you?
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>>922146
>A

>B

>C

"Don't trust Towa or any of the Doctors she's with. All they want to do is use your entire government as one gigantic experiment. She used your father, uncle and grandpa and directed them at us. While our fight was inevitable they are the ones who pushed both those fights, our first fight *side glance to Geets* and even more. They have been the orchestrator of all of this.

Do not satisfy vengeance with violence, but instead bring Justice with logic and rationality.
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>>922146
>C. So do you have your own Kuriza Korps now?
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>>922220
This
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>>922220
If we warn them not to cooperate with Towa and Co. they're gonna get murdered, brainwashed, and kidnapped, in that order.
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>>922146
“I understand, Lord Kuriza. But... wait, Doctor? Doctor Gero?”

He looks back. “Why... yes. He’s the one who helped us get out new forces.”

You notice Sorbet grumble something under his breath that you don’t understand but KNOW is probably a swear word, based on how Jeice and some others respond. “...Gero might not be the best person to trust right now. And neither would the person he’s working with. They directed Cold, Cooler, and Freeza at us. They’re from Earth too, and... look, I know the fight was inevitable, but to them this is all one big experiment. You need to stay on guard around them. And... do not trust anyone named Dr. Raichi.”

“Dr. who?”

Lapis, in the distance, shouts something to you all that you can’t quite make out, but your brother’s voice gives him a proper answer. “Our father. The Tuffle phantom filled with revenge. He knows about us, and probably knows about your family, Kuriza. And there’s a chance he could bring back Freeza’s spirit... as a monster of vengance, just like himself.”

Kuriza looks to the blonde Tuffle curiously. “And you are?”

“Her brother. Acer Mahogany. And I come with a bit of a peace offering!” he states, bringing up a case with the Capsule Corp. logo. “Bulma and I whipped this up. They’re new model Scouters, ones that can read even higher Power Levels and have even better security measures.”

“Smart thinking, brobro!” you cheer.

“They’re originally Tuffle inventions, after all. But since you guys make such good use of them... well, might as well share a bit of our tech.” he says with a wink.

Sorbet looks over them, switching one of the new ones with his old Scouter and scanning around. “Hmn... additional languages are added to it.”

“Common Earth ones, plus a few others we picked up.” he states with a smile.

“Very well. We will take this... peace offering. For now.” he grunts, taking the case all too quickly for how disinterested he tries to sound.

“So... don’t wanna stay behind and watch the Dragon get summoned?”

(cont.)
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Kuriza walks off coldly, the Ginyu Force filing behind them. Guldo then stops for a moment, and runs over to you. “Ah, wait, Mrs. Maple! Almost forgot!”

He hands you... a data pad of some kind? “Er... what is this?”

“Look, I know this is all rocky with... you guys killing Lord Cooler and King Cold, but we of the Ginyu Force still appreciate what you did for us. We’d still be stuck on that dusty planet if it weren’t for you. Also a thing for that Chiaotzu guy! I’ve made good progress on my skills thanks to his advice.”

“Progress?” you repeat... and Guldo’s gone. You look around, and now he’s in front of the Ginyus, waving to you. That... well huh.

You all watch as they leave, Peppa giving them a friendly wave. “They seem nice, mama.”

“I hope they stay that way.” you sigh out. That... felt more stressful than you were expecting.

With Kuriza finally gone, you all move to Vegeta. “Still haven’t summoned it, Veggie?”

“I’m not taking my chances.” the Saiyan prince responds. “Bald one, do it.”

“Yeah yeah widow’s peak...”

>A. You know, you really could just find this out from Baba or something if your wish is still the same
>B. Nappa, are you sure you’re okay with this? Do you have a wish?
>C. Something else?
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>>922600
>Look, I know this is all rocky with... you guys killing Lord Cooler and King Cold,
They didn't even bring up Frieza? A little weird...
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>>922600
>A. You know, you really could just find this out from Baba or something if your wish is still the same
>B. Nappa, are you sure you’re okay with this? Do you have a wish?
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>>922600
>C. You get one wish. Any more and the universe will explode.
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>>922606
You didn't kill Freeza.
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>>922631
We didn't kill Cooler, and we're not a guy either.
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>>922600
>C. Wish that Nappa got his hair back
>"Now you can go Super Saiyan!"
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Did Beerus kill all the feathered dinosaurs?
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CaC Anon, are you there? I have some requests!
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>>922600
>A.

>>922730
I just want you to know that I still have you filtered. I checked to see if you're posting anything meaningful, or if you're just spamming.
Looks like the latter.
Goodbye.
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Kuriza didn't know of what his family did to stay a galactic empire? How sheltered was he? Is this a metaphor for how chestnuts have spiky husks?
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>>922600
“You know, if it’s the same wish as before, I’m telling you. Just ask Baba. Use it on-”

“It’s not.” Vegeta comments. Krillin calls forth the Dragon...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym7yjhulJf8

“YOU WHO HAVE GATHERED THE SEVEN DRAGON BALLS. COME, STATE YOUR WISHES. I SHALL GRANT ANY TWO WITHIN MY POWER”

Vegeta steps forward with a smug grin. “Dragon, hear my call! I ask of you one thing, and one thing alone.” He looks around at you all and then raises a fist. “My mind is my own!”

Wait, what? Everyone looks at him funny, Nappa gaining an even smugger grin than Vegeta has.

“I demand of you to keep it that way! Make it so that my mind can NEVER be enslaved by another being! Make me immune to mind control!”

There’s... an odd silence from Shenron. “I SHALL GRANT YOU AS MUCH AS MY POWER CAN ALLOW. BUT SUBTLE MANIPULATION WILL STILL AFFECT YOUR MIND, AND WILLING CONTRACTS THAT CORRUPT IT WILL STILL AFFECT YOU. DO YOU UNDERSTAND?”

Vegeta laughs. “So long as I can never be taken control of, I will accept this. I’m not some pawn, not in anyone’s game!”

“VERY WELL.”

A red light flashes from the Eternal Dragon’s eyes as a blue glow surrounds Vegeta’s body, most prominently around his head. “Perfect. Perfect!”

You look to Nappa briefly. “...what about you?”

“Feh. Maybe I could get my hair-”

“WAIT!” a voice calls out to you all. You look back and... what the, Emperor Pilaf?! He rides up to your group on a horse, with Mai, Shuu, Blue, Tao, Shen, Tien, and Chiaotzu all behind him. “I HAVE A WISH!”

https://youtu.be/1F7MwxJ43Vk

>YOU HAVE COMPLETED THE FIRST SOCIAL LINK WITH KURIZA!

>DRAGON BALL TUFFLE QUEST Z #55 END
>Twitter account is @KatoQm, will have status updates there
>Got some questions for the QM? Characters? Suggestions? Throw them at ask.fm/QMKato and I'll try to answer them as best I can

And that's all for tonight, folks. I'll be around for questions and such for a short while. Did y’all have fun?
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>>922891
Kuriza's innocence confused me because his father hates innocent things, and would try to corrupt his progeny when he had the time. Did he not make time for Kuriza is all?
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>>922891
Can we wish for a gundam before he says anything?
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>>922891
>Majin Vegeta is impossible now
Well that's quite a wish. Good thread Kato, thanks for running.
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>>922931
>>Majin Vegeta is impossible now and also I can't read
>>922891
>WILLING CONTRACTS THAT CORRUPT IT WILL STILL AFFECT YOU.
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>>922904
>>922911
You can figure it out. Clues have been there.
Wish for a Crossbone anime instead. Specify that you want it to be good.

>>922931
Thanks for playing! And technically no, but he's less willing to get into them in the first place.
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Did we ever unbrainwash the Cui thing?
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>>922954
Nope.
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Why didn't Peppa and Gohan wait at school for us to pick them up?
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>>922970
Because Goku picked them up.
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>>922979
Yeah, that makes sense. Though, I would have liked a little more time to have fun before Peppa cut it off.
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Wonder what mind control type Shadow Dragon we're gonna get thanks to Geet's wish.
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Depends on how many wishes we made before this one.
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https://youtu.be/04Ra2MzewkY



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