> ARCHIVE: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=LGA2> Saturday, July 18th, 2015SITUATION: http://pastebin.com/ziMsX6th (embed)MECHANICS: http://pastebin.com/49M2eE8Z (embed)THE RULES: http://pastebin.com/BEsprkBZ (embed)THE TANK: http://pastebin.com/sJsgig6B (embed)THE DIVISIONS: http://pastebin.com/xCQZAdqU (embed)THE SHOP: http://pastebin.com/v6xeDRXj (embed)DANON’S THE TEAM: http://pastebin.com/bUU2v0z8 (embed)> PASTEBINS UPDATED (slightly)The morning trip on the trucks as you make your way to the ferry transporting you to the match locale is a very surprising one. Sure, there was a relatively uneventful plane ride and then there was the sleepy camp out in the tents. But this was unprecedented.You arrived at the spectator fairgrounds where thousands of people have gathered around to come and watch what was essentially a spat between two sisters. Not just the people of Norfolk, but people from all over the Virginia area. And not just schools nearby like Robert A. Heinlein, but people from across the world. “Elodie!” The truck stops and you see the familiar face of Meryl Hoffmeister from Camp Gagetown. She shakes your hand. “Good luck against Gertrude!”“Yes!” says Carolina Greene as she shakes your hand as well. “We're looking forward to your little match, yeah?”Wow, they came all this way to see you?Your trucks stop up in the parking lot, and you're immediately swamped by fans who want pictures or autographs. Hall Monitors are busy pushing people away so you can have a bit of space to yourselves. While Winona and Stack seem to revel in the attention, posing for photos are giving off autographs, Ingrid and Josephina like you are just trying to make sure you get to your destination as soon as possible.You stand atop a little stage, where people have gathered around. Here the Judges will introduce the opposing commanders and wish everyone good luck in the match. Gertrude and Griselda stand next to each other while you and Iris fall in line behind her. Gertrude and Griselda wave at the crowd, smiling. “You see Daddy anywhere?” asks Gertrude.“No, but he said he'd be watching,” says Griselda quietly. The two of them are obviously trying not to look like they're keeping secrets. “Just for today, let's try and be good sisters.”“Agreed,” Gertrude hisses quietly. “If he knew, he'd freak.”“And there goes the neighborhood.”Gertrude looks over at you and Iris, smiling. “Well! Are you two ready for the match today? I've seen what you two can do, it's making me shake in my boots!”> Boast> Neutral> Polite
>>556889>otherWe're ready for a nice, friendly exhibition match with no bitterness or tears.
>>556889> PoliteGod, this is going to be rough on both sides. It's going to be tough to keep the ship afloat.>>556924Mentioning that we're ready for a friendly exhibition match may be wise.
>>556889> PoliteOh god why the fuck am I awake?
> PoliteYou smile at Gertrude and at Griselda as well. “I am ready. I'm very much looking forward to a -friendly- exhibition match between our two teams.” Gertrude and Griselda glance at each other, then nod slowly.Iris as well nods. “Best of luck to the both of us then. May the best girl win.”“Thank you, Iris,” say the two sisters. They give each other a mean glare, then go back to smiling for everybody.The Judges step forward. “Welcome to the Exhibition Match between Gertrude Pool of the International Tankery League!” A loud applause erupts in the crowd for Gertrude, who happily waves at everybody. “And Griselda Pool of the North Atlantic Tankery Organization!” A smaller but just as loud applause is heard for Griselda as well, mostly from the teams that Griselda has fought and your crews. “We are today's judges! Hibiki Inatomi!”“Remi Takashima!”“Kanon Sasagawa! Representing the International Tankery League!”Three more Judges step forth. “Representing the North Atlantic Tankery Organization! Jill Joyce!”“Beatrice Klem!”“Rana Luciano!”The three Judges bow to each other. “The match will begin in four hours! Let this be an honorable matchup!”--You and Iris walk with Gertrude and Griselda Pool. “You know, Griselda. I will say, it's nice that we get to do things as sisters again. It's been a while,” says Gertrude as she munches on some cotton candy.Griselda grunts. “I guess it has.” You and Iris sort of awkwardly remain quiet as you walk behind them. “Considering the whole thing about last year's tournament.”“I think I've already told you many times, you should try and let that go, Griselda. It wasn't my fault. How am I supposed to know that my little sister who lives and breathes tanks turns out to not be a great officer the minute I put her in a commander's chair.” Griselda rolls her eyes. “Don't give me that.”“I know it's not your fault,” says Griselda. Oh jeez. “You're always such a good judge of character anyway. It's how you built up your team. Maybe that's the one good thing I inherited from you.”“Are you trying to start something?” Gertrude points at Griselda and jabs her in the hip, making her flinch. “Because I will finish it.”Griselda glares at Gertrude. “Then maybe you...” The two of them look forward. “Daddy!” They both drop what they're doing and rush on over to their father, a very handsome looking man.“Girls!” He quickly picks them up in a hug, happily. He then drops down to a kneel. “Oh, oh, jeez! Hold on! You two have gotten heavy!” He wheezes a bit, coughing loudly. “Oooh!”“Are you okay, Daddy?” asks Gertrude.“I'm fine!” He says, waving it off. “It's nothing! Honest!” He clears his throat. “Who are your friends?”> Introduce yourselves> Let the Pool sisters introduce you> Other
>>557140> Let the Pool sisters introduce youFuck yeah, Dadpool time.
>>557140> Let the Pool sisters introduce you
>>557140>> Let the Pool sisters introduce you
>>557133Because you'd know we'd be lost otherwise?>>557140> Let the Pool sisters introduce youOh geez...this is going to be so rough. I just hope that we can prove a point to both sisters in this match.
>>557140> Let the Pool sisters introduce youIts the polite thing to do. They may need to gush over dad for a while.>>557133>Oh god why the fuck am I awake?Same reason I am. Quest addiction.
>>557191> Because you'd know we'd be lost otherwise?Aw shucks anon, but there's other good tacticians in the playerbase too. Anon that usually does the map-plans has got a good head on his shoulders.>>557212It's a hell of a drug.
>>557245It's true, and occasionally I'll come up with something myself. But normally on mobile I find myself relying on you and others. Especially since I don't know anything about tanks.
> Let the Pool sisters introduce youGriselda is the one to introduce you. “Daddy. These are my Officers and my good friends. Elodie R. Zumwalt, and Iris Blackbourne.” The two of you shake hands with Mister Pool, and find his grip to be very firm and yet very comfortable. They say a handshake says a lot about a man.Gertrude smiles. “Elodie and Iris happen to be Griselda's little All-Stars. Elodie hasn't gotten too many votes yet, but Iris is basically leading the WL in Kill count.”“Ain't that nice!” Mister Pool folds his arms, smiling down at you two. “Well, a friend of my daughters is a friend of mine. And to think of you as Officers, my girls are putting a healthy amount of trust in you two.”Iris raises a hand. “You wouldn't happen to be the US Diplomat to China would you?”“Oooohhh... maybe,” he says quietly, rubbing his hand against his arm.“Daddy, I've been meaning to ask. Shouldn't you be in China at right now?” asks Gertrude. “Won't they miss you?”“Ah, the world can wait for my daughters. When else am I going to see them spar?” He places a hand on both their shoulders. “Remember girls, this is a sport, not war. I won't think any less of the one who loses or any more of the one who wins. Have some fun, alright?” The two glance at each other nervously, then nod and smile at their father. “Great!”“You want us to help you find your seats?” asks Griselda. “We reserved a private booth for you and your staff.”“Sure! Sure!” Gertrude and Griselda take each one of Mister Pool's hands, smiling. “You two coming along?”> “Sure.”> “Nah, we're just going to walk around.”> “Nah, I'm going to walk around by myself.”> Other
>>557300> "Sure."As much as I'd like to get some alone time with Iris, we should focus on supporting Gris for now.
>>557300>> OtherWe'll check in with the team. You go have family time.
>>557286That's fair anon, I'll try not to disappoint.
>>557300>> “Nah, we're just going to walk around.”Let the Pools work it out among themselves. It's Iris time.
>>557212>>557332Fuck, left my trip on from last night. Apologies to all. I suck.
>>557300> "Sure."Provided that we get to spend some time with Iris, the girls and other crews later on before the match. I'd like to spend some time with as many people as possible.
>>557386Especially Iris. Best girl doesn't get nearly enough screentime.
> “Sure.”You nod. “Sure.” You get walking with Mister Pool and his daughters to the stands, passing by several booths for amusement like air gun ranges, ball tossing, and taking pictures with tanks and other military vehicles like the M8 Greyhound and its brother the M20 Utility Car.“So tell me about yourselves,” asks Mister Pool. “How'd you two come to be in my little girl's team?”“She recruited us,” says Iris. “About a week before the first match mind you.”“Ha! I see! Must've been a rush. What are you, the Etiquette Club leader?” Iris nods. “Ah! Very nice! You could probably teach Gertrude and Griselda a thing or two maybe.”“I've already done so to Griselda.” Griselda shudders at Iris saying that. “But Gertrude is always free to visit.” Gertrude shudders a bit as well.“Still, you're one of the top players too, lotta kills?” Iris nods. “And you, Elodie. What would you say about the team, is it being good to you?”“Very,” you say. “Griselda's a great commander.”“I see!” Mister Pool smiles at his daughters, who both smile back at them before returning to a bit of doom and gloom staring at each other when he's not looking at them. “Well, my daughters live and breathe the tank lifestyle so it's to be expected. They take after their mother, bless her soul.”You arrive at the stands, where a few hundred people have already gathered to sit down and save the good spots for the viewing screens. Several private booths are set up besides the main bleachers for the high paying VIPs, one of them being Mister Pool himself. “Ooooh!” Mister Pool's eyes widen at the inside of the luxurious booth, soft carpeting, comfortable chairs, free catering, and a private screen to watch the match. Some of Mister Pool's staff have already come as well, happily digging into the meals. “This is nice!”“Ellie!” OH FUCK, YOUR PARENTS. You turn around. Mom and Dad come over, smiling at you, accompanied by your crew as well. Mister Pool turns around as well. NO NO NOT IN FRONT OF GRISELDA'S DAD! PLEASE NO! Dad immediately picks you up in a hug. “Ah! We made it!” He puts you down. Ah, by now you're stiff as a board.“Who are you?” asks Mister Pool.“We're Elodie's parents!” says Dad. “Came down from New Jersey to watch her play!”“Really? Where are you sitting?” asks Mister Pool.“Up in the stands, cheapest seats we could afford,” says Mom. “We try to save money where we can.”Mister Pool thinks on it for a second, then says, “Tell you what. I got room in my booth. You can watch the match with me.”“OH! You don't have to!” you say, as does Mom and Dad. “We're perfectly fine!” you say in sync.[1/2]
>>557597[2/2]“Nonsense!” Mister Pool wraps his arm around Dad, smiling. “Any parent of a friend of my daughters must be a good one!”Dad smirks, looking at Mom. “You hear that? He thinks I'm a good Dad!” Mom rolls her eyes.“Well, we should go and brief our teams,” says Griselda. “Will you be fine, Dad?”“We'll be alright, sweetums!” Mister Pool pats Griselda on the head, smiling. “You go prepare yourselves, we look forward to the match.”“Good luck, Ellie!” Mom pecks you on the cheek, smiling. “Knock Gertrude dead!” Gertrude clears her throat, to which Mom says. “Kick her ass!” You roll your eyes.--“What's this?” Winona asks Serafina. She points to a horse shoe hanging from the side of the Pershing's turret.Serafina says, “It's a good luck charm!”“I thought the Marquis de La Fayette was your good luck charm,” says Winona.“He's one of them!” Serafina pats her chest, huffing. “But one cannot have too much good luck! And even if it does not represent good luck, that horse shoe is symbolic of the legendary Polish Winged Hussars, who were basically the Rohirrim before the Rohirrim were even a thing!” She pats the side of the Pershing's turret, grinning, and sees you and Iris walking up to the Pershing. “What do you think, Elodie?”“I don't really believe in luck,” you say. “But whatever floats your boat.” Serafina looks at the horse shoe, then shrugs, deciding to go with the second explanation it seems.Iris sips a bit of tea. “I do say, I am quite nervous.” Iris, nervous? Oh shit. “I just hope this match goes without a fuss. Would you not agree?”> Boast> Neutral> Polite
>>557605>PoliteLet's play like how we always do! Trust in our tanks and our six pounders!
>>557605> Polite"Whether it does or not, I'm sure we'll make a good show of it."
>>557605> PoliteI too, hope that it goes without a fuss. And that the post-match be just as successful.
>>557605> NeutralThis whole thing is mildly uncomfortable. I hope for a good day, but I expect tears.
>>557605> PoliteWe've made it this far on our sangfroid, let's keep on rolling.
>>557605>> Neutral---Also,some art i made yesterday after the end of quest. I already posted it but in case some people haven't see it.
> PoliteYou nod. “I would. It does feel uncomfortable doing this, but hopefully we can make this all worthwhile.”“I hope so too,” says Iris. “For goodness' sake, we'll have some fun even if it kills us.” She offers her hand to you. “Good luck to you, Elodie.”“And to you too, Iris,” you say back. You shake her hand.With your tanks loaded onto the ferries, you make your way down to the match locale.--“Alright, everyone know the plan?” yells Griselda, addressing not just the entire team but also the foreign crews who have enlisted to participate. You all shout yes to her, clearly and loudly. “Great! Listen up, we're going to beat my sister, and we're going to send her back to LGA with her tail between her legs, and we're gonna show her that our NATO team can stand with the best of them! You've all come a long way since our first match! For those of you who've stuck with me since the start, thank you! For those of you just joining, welcome and be thankful this is your first match with us! You'll get to learn how to do Tankery first hand! The most important thing though: have fun and be a team! Dismissed!”You, Griselda, and Iris start walking to the center line with the Judges from NATO. On the other end are the Judges from the ITL, and Gertrude herself along with her two Officers, Cathy McDowell and Charlotte Luciano.You take a very deep breath. This is it.You all meet in the center, looking one another in the eye. Across from you is the Junior Cathy McDowell. “Shake hands!” say the Judges. You offer your hand to Cathy.“Good luck!” says Cathy.> Boast> Neutral> Polite
>>557832> PoliteAs always.
>>557832> Polite'Ere we go lads.
>>557764>Stupid boys trying to help. Its adorable
>>557832> PoliteYou tooLook her in the eye, glance over at the Pools, look back and wince slightly. Hopefully 'Trude's team is as worried as us.
I have to leave for work soon so here was my plan from yesterday with minor modification.Move forward along the blue first to contact with enemy then fall back along the brown conducting a fighting retreat. Rosehip and other fast tanks wait in the forest near our start then either hit the enemy in the rear or charge for the enemy base to find their artillery depending on what Trude's exact setup is.
And the other potential plan, also with a minor alteration, namely an alternate route for Hammer and Envelopment platoons that bypasses the worst marsh but risks being spotted en route slightly more. In addition, the ORBAT: > COMMAND/HAMMER PLATOON: GrisGris commanding> M4A3E8 Sherman: Griselda> Panzer IV H: Benny> IS-2m: Regina> Panzer III J: Suvorov> ANVIL PLATOON: Iris commanding> Churchill IV: Iris> Churchill VII: Orange Pekoe> Tiger II (P): Serina> Matilda II: Rukuriri> ENVELOPMENT/HARRASMENT PLATOON: Elodie commanding> Cromwell III: Elodie> M18 Hellcat: Dalia> Crusader III: Rosehip> AREA DENIAL PLATOON: Rozaliya commanding> SU-76M (Columbina): Rozaliya> ISU-152: Nguyen> Jagdtiger: Jane> M26 Pershing: SerafinaMaybe we should just give both ideas to Gris and let her choose (or I suppose at this point we'd have already done that IC).
>>557936>>557986I happen to prefer the Danon plan myself, but I acknowledge that the risks are pretty solid. We may want to use that other plan as a B. If possible.I'm getting Gagetown Flashbacks, which should be fun.
> PoliteYou nod. “And to you as well.” Before you go though, you tilt your head towards Griselda and Gertrude, wincing a bit. She looks over, wincing a little as well. Ah, she knows your pain then.Judge Jill Joyce steps in between you all. “This will be a Flag Match between Gertrude Pool of the ITL and Griselda Pool of NATO! Here are your starting lineups!”> NORTH ATLANTIC TANKERY ORGANIZATION> FLAG < **GRISELDA POOL (M4 Sherman – 75mm M3 “Janus”) > *ELODIE R. ZUMWALT (Cromwell III – QF 6-Pounder “Oliver”)> *IRIS BLACKBOURNE (Churchill IV – QF 6-Pounder “James)> “SUVOROV” (Panzer III Ausf. J – 50mm KwK 38 L/42 “Frederick”)> SERAFINA MACZEK (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “Sokol”)> REGINA TANEY (IS-2m – D-25T 122mm “David”)> DALIA EARNHARDT (M18 Hellcat – 76mm M1A2 “Mifune”)> SERINA HILDEBRAND (Tiger II (P) – 88mm KwK 43 L/71 “Cub”) > BENNY RODRIGUEZ (Panzer IV Ausf. H – 75mm KwK 40 L/48)> JANE FOGERTY (Jagdtiger – 128mm PaK 44 L/55)> ROSEHIP (Crusader III – QF 6 Pndr “Thunder Child”) *ELITE*> ORANGE PEKOE (Churchill VII – QF 75mm “Kingforce”) *LEGENDARY*> RUKURIRI (Matilda II – QF 2 Pndr “Surprise”) *ELITE*> ROZALIYA ULANOVA (SU-76M – 76.2 Zis-3Sh “Columbina”) *LEGENDARY*> KIM-LY NGUYEN (ISU-152 – 152 ML-20S “Hanoi”) *ELITE* > VS> INTERNATIONAL TANKERY LEAGUE> FLAG < **1. GERTRUDE POOL (M4A1E8 – 76mm M1A2 “Cupid”) *LEGENDARY*> *2. CATHY MCDOWELL (Churchill IX LT – QF 6 Pndr “Earl”) *ELITE*> 3. CLARA SAVAGE (Panther Ausf. G - 75mm KwK 42 L/70 “Doc”) *ELITE*> 4. JANET “JANEK” KOS (M8A1 Scott GMC - 75mm M3 “Szarik”) *ELITE*> 5. MARINA POLIKARPOV (KV-85 - 85mm D-5T “Chuck”) *ELITE*> 6. SAMANTHA WHITWORTH (T-34/57 Model 1941 - ZiS-4 57mm gun “John”) *ELITE*> *7. CHARLOTTE LUCIANO (Panther Ausf. G - 75mm KwK 42 L/70 “Al”) *ELITE*> 8. JANE KEEGAN (StuG III Ausf. G – 75mm StuK 40 L/48 “Xenophon”) *ELITE*> 9. MEGAN O'HARA (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Michael”) *ELITE*> 10. GEMMA D. WICK (T26E5 Jumbo Pershing – 90mm M3 “Clark) *ELITE*> 11. DANA ROCKWELL (Sturmpanzer IV Series Three “Stupa – 150mm StuH 43 L/12) *ELITE*> 12. SARAH DEFOREST (M36B1 Jackson – 90mm M3 “Walt”) *ELITE*> 13. BARBARA “BABY” RUTH (Tiger II (H) – 88mm KwK 43 L/71 “Hobbes”)> 14. MICHELLE FRANCOIS (Sherman VC Firefly – QF 17 Pounder “Harry”)> 15. CAROLYN ROSETTA (Comet I – 77mm HV “Dave”)[1/2]
>>558153[2/2]> CUPID: Cupid (or Patches as formerly known) is a severely long-lived tank, and one that has experienced World War II from both sides, being knocked out and recaptured numerous times by both sides. It appears that Cupid is something of a survivalist, and has been able to survive one shot that would have instantly killed it regardless.> COLUMBINA: Columbina is one of the original SU-76M tanks that hasn't been converted to SU-76B standard for Tankery, and has rewarded its user with its amazing agility and speed, not to mention its surprising mobility on wet and difficult terrain even compared to other tanks of its class.> KINGFORCE: This tank is not actually known as Kingforce, but was one of the Churchill IV tanks (converted to VII standard post war for Tankery) that participated in North Africa. This tank is notable for being THE tank which first knocked out a Tiger I tank. After being lost in political red tape through the years, St. Gloriana found it and refurbished it. There, they found that the gunsights are amazingly well-preserved, giving Kingforce amazing accuracy above all other tanks.“Let the match begin!”--With the flare bursting up out of the sky, the match has begun. You begin at the south end of the map, and you examine it thusly. “Alright, we know our teams? Elodie! You take Rosehip and Dalia! You'll be the enveloping platoon!”“Got it,” you say.“We'll move up slowly towards the forests in the center of the map, everyone keep their cool!”“Got it!” everyone says.Right, here we go.> COMMAND POINTS: 65 CP> INTUITION: - 2 CP> EXECUTE TACTICAL MANEUVER (Which?)> Deploy Smoke (2/3)> APDS Shot (5/5)> APCR Shot (5/5)> Move in the center> Move to the left flank> Move to the right flank> Other
>>558186I need to pre-write this shit more.Here's your map.
>>558186> Move to the left flankHang left, keep out of sight as much as possible, we have 3 low profile, high speed tanks, lets use that to get to positions unspotted. >>558193You'd just end up having to rewrite more of it when players ruin all your best laid plans.
>>558186DanonTactics seems to know what's what. I shall throw in my support of >>558201
>>558186> Move to the left flank
>>558186> Move to the left flankI would go intuition right now. But we can wait until we're more in position. Ubless others disagree.
>>558220Trude favours using her lights as recon in the early match, not as harrassment, we should have some time before we make actual contact with the enemy.
Also, sorry to the anons I told I would stay Anon for battle plans after the Sherbrooke matches, but now that we're on /qst/ the ids kind of make the notion of my plans standing on their own a futile one anyway. I'm really not a fan of the ID system for just this reason.
>>558186>> Move to the left flankUm, German didn't the E8 version get the M1 76mm ? I thought Gris-Gris upgraded to that gun?
>>558304I keep forgetting to update it. My apologies.
> Move to the left flankYou decide to take up the left flank with Rosehip and with Dalia. “Woooo!” Dalia speeds up past you. Apparently in the past few days, they've paid to have their engine improved and the suspension improved as well. As a result their Hellcat is quite fast.“Dalia, come back,” you state.Rosehip speeds on past as well. “Hahahaha!”“Rosehip, come back,” you state.Stack looks over. “You're going to be saying that a lot, I can tell.” Please.“We got dust in the distance,” says Serafina. “It appears they're making move down the center.” You pull up your binoculars, and indeed you do see a load of dust in the center. Hm, you've seen Gertrude's plays in the field before. It's not like her to make an amateur mistake like pushing the tank such that it generates huge clouds of dust. She's probably already up to something.“Alright, get ready to set up positions at Machipongo those on the right.”You check the composition again. You are on the far left, with in this order Griselda on your right (Panzer IV, IS-2m, and Panzer III), then Iris (Churchill VII, Tiger II, Matilda II), then Rozaliya in Machipongo itself (ISU-152, Jagdtiger, M26 Pershing)As you approach the thick woods ahead, you decide to...> COMMAND POINTS: 65 CP> INTUITION: - 2 CP> EXECUTE TACTICAL MANEUVER (Which?)> Deploy Smoke (2/3)> APDS Shot (5/5)> APCR Shot (5/5)> Set up ambush positions in the woods.> Set up thick hull down positions.> Continue up the left flank regardless of Griselda's orders.> Other
>>558354>> Set up ambush positions in the woods.Our tanks won't be able withstand even in a hull down position.
>>558354>INTUITION: - 2 CPThat dust is a log drag, I'm sure, but I don't know what else is going on.>OtherCall in sighting a dust cloud, probably fake.
>>558354> Set up ambush positions in the woods.> OtherLet Gris know we suspect a trap if Trude's generating that much dust. It's likely a diversion from her main thrust, which will come either through Johnsontown or down Road 600. Make sure to sight at least one of the heavy guns near Machipongo East towards Road 600. Gris should push her tanks up into the woods just West of Road 618, while Anvil moves up 618 and we set up an ambush on her left flank in case a flanking manoeuvre is attempted.
>>558393oh, add an > INTUITION: - 2 CPto this one as well actually.
>>558354> INTUITION: - 2 CP>Set up ambush positions>Report our current findings and suspicions to Griselda.Its clearly a ploy. But we need to snuff out the end goal here.>>558393This seems like a good formational plan.
>>558354> Set up ambush positions in the woods.
> INTUITION: - 2 CP> Set up ambush positions in the woods.As you start pulling leaves and sticks into your camo netting, you see Rosehip scanning the horizon through the trees. Can she even see anything through the foliage? You drop off your tank and hurry on over. “Rosehip, what do you see?”She helps you up, then points northwards in the direction of Johnsontown. “Tanks. I saw an M8A1 with a medium barrel 75 up there, along with a Chaffee.” Really? You pull up your binoculars as well, squinting through the lens. Most you get is a blurry picture through leaves and sticks, but yes, you do see some smoke and stuff and that's really about it.“Are you sure?” you ask.“Positive,” she says, suddenly very serious and mature. “I believe they've sent probably the Comet as well to back them up, it's one of the few tanks they have that can keep up with their lights, and it synergizes well as something to rally around during a protracted engagement.” Um. Huh. Okay, no, that makes sense.“Did you get that, Griselda?” you ask over the radio.“I did,” she says. “Rozaliya sees more tanks coming down too, it's the Churchill with the Jumbo Pershing leading in front, along with the Jackson, Tiger II, a StuG III, and a Sturmpanzer.”Hm.That just leaves Gertrude, the Panthers, the KV-85, and the Firefly.If your intuition is correct, they're looking for a way to flank around, probably on the right.> COMMAND POINTS: 63 CP> INTUITION: - 2 CP> EXECUTE TACTICAL MANEUVER (Which?)> Deploy Smoke (2/3)> APDS Shot (5/5)> APCR Shot (5/5)> Assault the town north.> Stay in ambush position.> Other
>>558561>> Stay in ambush position.Use the Area denial of our big gins to bombard the right flank.
>>558561> Assault the town NorthAnvil takes the lead, Hammer and Envelopment on the left flank to surround. We have the numbers advantage over here for now, three tanks against 11 of ours. We smash them here, then Pivot East, turning their flank into a frontal assault. Tell Roza to pivot the Pershing and herself to the East, while the JT and ISU cover the approach down Road 13.
>>558584But wouldn't attacking the town be risky and we will be at a disadvantage?
>>558561>Stay in ambush position.
>>558584It's also worth noting that if either Nguyen or Jane can land their first shots on the Churchill or even the T26E5, they will most of the time, kill that tank. The JT will kill the Churchill at basically any range, and the Jumbo Pershing through the upper plate at 100m or less, and the turret at sub 500m, while the ISU-152 will kill anything it hits basically because its gun is pure horror. >>558634So is sitting and waiting for them to outflank us. We took a proactive formation, we have to be proactive or we'll lose the intiative and then the match.
>>558561>>558584Change my vote to this above.
>>558561> Stay in ambush position.
>>558584>>558653You've convinced me. I was waffling but yeah. Better to try and if we need to retreat and plan B I feel we can.I will toss a> INTUITION: - 2 CP in addition with the plan listed.
>>558561Also, GS does Nona currently have access to Target Weakpoint or is that only when she's over 100% morale, not just at it?
>>558740Only when her Morale is overcharged to 200% (which only occurs during moments which significantly amaze or make her happy, same with the rest of the crew.)> Assault the town north.“Griselda, we're going to hit the north edge and try and drive away Gertrude's lights.”“Alright, Iris, move up until I say to stop, we'll be behind you. Rozaliya-” You hear some loud bangs in the distance. The battle's started.“We have been flanked! It is Gertrude's tanks on the right side!” says Nguyen. “Her shots are going wide though!”“Hold position!” says Griselda. “She's not in good range yet!” You do note that Gertrude's group probably has the Firefly, along with a pair of Panthers. That'll be swell. “Fogerty! Nguyen, go after the group going down the center road first!”You hear one loud snapping noise. Must be the 128mm. “We missed!” yells Fogerty.“We won't,” says Nguyen. Another snap.> KO: BARBARA “BABY” RUTH (Tiger II (H) “Hobbes”)> KILL CREDITED TO: KIM-LY NGUYEN (ISU-152 “Hanoi”)“Good shot!” says Rozaliya.“When's our turn!?” yells Serafina.You and your tanks speed through the clearing quickly to close the distance. Suddenly, you flinch, a shot speeds right past you. That was definitely the 77mm trying to be cheeky. Other shots go wide or splat into the ground. You can't see them through the trees though.“CHARGE, THUNDER CHILD!” yells Rosehip. Her Crusader suddenly rushes past you, the engine screaming and dirt getting blown back. You and Dalia glance at each other from your hatches, surprised.> COMMAND POINTS: 63 CP> INTUITION: - 2 CP> EXECUTE TACTICAL MANEUVER (Which?)> Deploy Smoke (2/3)> APDS Shot (5/5)> APCR Shot (5/5)> Let Rosehip take the lead, she's experienced> Catch up quick, flank speed!> Other
>>558748> Let Rosehip take the lead, she's experiencedHopefully, her luck at not getting completely wasted by receiving a hit from a heavy hitter is still active.
>>558153>> NORTH ATLANTIC TANKERY ORGANIZATION>> FLAG < **GRISELDA POOL (M4 Sherman – 76mm M1 “Janus”) >> *ELODIE R. ZUMWALT (Cromwell III – QF 6-Pounder “Oliver”)>> *IRIS BLACKBOURNE (Churchill IV – QF 6-Pounder “James)>> “SUVOROV” (Panzer III Ausf. J – 50mm KwK 38 L/42 “Frederick”)>> SERAFINA MACZEK (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “Sokol”)>> REGINA TANEY (IS-2m – D-25T 122mm “David”)>> DALIA EARNHARDT (M18 Hellcat – 76mm M1A2 “Mifune”)>> SERINA HILDEBRAND (Tiger II (P) – 88mm KwK 43 L/71 “Cub”) >> BENNY RODRIGUEZ (Panzer IV Ausf. H – 75mm KwK 40 L/48)>> JANE FOGERTY (Jagdtiger – 128mm PaK 44 L/55)>> ROSEHIP (Crusader III – QF 6 Pndr “Thunder Child”) *ELITE*>> ORANGE PEKOE (Churchill VII – QF 75mm “Kingforce”) *LEGENDARY*>> RUKURIRI (Matilda II – QF 2 Pndr “Surprise”) *ELITE*>> ROZALIYA ULANOVA (SU-76M – 76.2 Zis-3Sh “Columbina”) *LEGENDARY*>> KIM-LY NGUYEN (ISU-152 – 152 ML-20S “Hanoi”) *ELITE* >> VS>> INTERNATIONAL TANKERY LEAGUE>> FLAG < **1. GERTRUDE POOL (M4A1E8 – 76mm M1A2 “Cupid”) *LEGENDARY*>> *2. CATHY MCDOWELL (Churchill IX LT – QF 6 Pndr “Earl”) *ELITE*>> 3. CLARA SAVAGE (Panther Ausf. G - 75mm KwK 42 L/70 “Doc”) *ELITE*>> 4. JANET “JANEK” KOS (M8A1 Scott GMC - 75mm M3 “Szarik”) *ELITE*>> 5. MARINA POLIKARPOV (KV-85 - 85mm D-5T “Chuck”) *ELITE*>> 6. SAMANTHA WHITWORTH (T-34/57 Model 1941 - ZiS-4 57mm gun “John”) *ELITE*>> *7. CHARLOTTE LUCIANO (Panther Ausf. G - 75mm KwK 42 L/70 “Al”) *ELITE*>> 8. JANE KEEGAN (StuG III Ausf. G – 75mm StuK 40 L/48 “Xenophon”) *ELITE*>> 9. MEGAN O'HARA (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Michael”) *ELITE*>> 10. GEMMA D. WICK (T26E5 Jumbo Pershing – 90mm M3 “Clark) *ELITE*>> 11. DANA ROCKWELL (Sturmpanzer IV Series Three “Stupa – 150mm StuH 43 L/12) *ELITE*>> 12. SARAH DEFOREST (M36B1 Jackson – 90mm M3 “Walt”) *ELITE*>> 14. MICHELLE FRANCOIS (Sherman VC Firefly – QF 17 Pounder “Harry”)>> 15. CAROLYN ROSETTA (Comet I – 77mm HV “Dave”)15 vs 14
>>558748>Let Rosehip take the lead, she's experiencedAlso let her draw fire. Look for the ambush
>>558748> APCR Shot (5/5)> Let Rosehip take the lead, she's experiencedPrepare the shot incase she fails because if she does, she will give us an opening to take out the Comet.
>>558748> INTUITION: - 2 CP> Catch up quick, flank speed!> White Phosphorus Shot> Deploy Smoke (3/3)Put the Willy Pete round into the tree line then pop smoke ahead of us. Split our platoon while we're obscured, Rosehip up the centre, Dalia left and us right. Ask Gris to move up in support of us, or give us Anvil and shift her own tanks East to reinforce Roza. We need to smash through this position quickly, before they can bring effective fire onto us or counterattack elsewhere.
>>558748>>558784I'll support this unless we get the APCR shell ready.
>>558799APCR isn't really necessary yet. It might be useful when one of them is attempting to flee thanks to its flat arc and high velocity at short ranges, but for engaging tanks this lightly armoured in stationary positions it's pointless, in fact APCBC is actually arguably superior due to normalisation caused by the soft cap making the shot less likely to ricochet at extreme impact angles.
>>558784Solid, solid. I am willing to give this a go.
>>558809But can we penetrate the Comet at this range?
Also, Light Music Club facing off with the Bluegrass girls currently. Now that's what I call a battle of the bands. Walli's got this in the bag, girl's so swole they only need one loader for two piece 12.8cm rounds.Shame the Poles and Little Poles are on the wrong sides of the map, would've liked to see them go at it, maybe even have Serafina show up her seniors. Assuming we don't hit the mantlet, or a heavily sloped part yes. Unless they have applique armour, but for the most part yeah, at point blank range the 6 pounder APCBC rounds will do about 95-100mm on flat armour.
>>558841if we do hit the manlet and slopped parts why not hedge our bets?And all of them have applique armor and elites.
>>558856The Comet isn't Elited, so I'm not sure. And eh, I suppose it's not so bad, but I'm not sure how many shells we can get loaded and fired while careening around like this, and I'd rather prioritise the WP round. A 6 pounder in the Cromwell could probably get a round off every 4-5 seconds assuming it was being loaded from the turret's ready racks while stationary, basically the same while traversing the turret because it has a partial turret basket but while also speeding around 60kph I think we'd be lucky to get a second loaded in 10 seconds, even with a loader as skilled as Stack.
> INTUITION: - 2 CP> Catch up quick, flank speed!> WP Shot> Deploy Smoke (3/3)“Put some Willy Pete up their asses!” Stack loads in a WP shell, and Winona follows up with a shot into the tree line. The white sparkling smoke starts spreading, lighting up the trees and obscuring them, and you by extension. A smoke bomb gets popped in front of you, further obscuring you before your charge. “Here we go!”You bust through the tree line, pulling your goggles over your eyes to protect from the smoke. Rosehip speeds past, firing blindly into the smoke as well, crushing branches and saplings under her treads. On the far left is Dalia, also firing as well, trying to find a target. “Where are they!?” yells Dalia.You blink, looking around. Damn it, where are they!? “Griselda.”“Yeah?”“We need more support up here. I think they're trying to squeeze us out, we might break through here!”“Got it! Iris is going up to you, we'll shore up Rozaliya's team!”Rosehip suddenly comes reversing out of the smoke. “LOOK OUT!” she yells. The fuck? You look to her as she retreats, then look to the front, speeding towards you is now a Comet tank.Oh shit. “BACK UP!” The tank reverses, dodging a 77mm shell aimed right at you. Suddenly, you stop. “Why are we stopped!?”“We're stuck on something!” yells Josephina. You look back to see the treads tangled up in a fallen tree and some roots. Fuck! The Comet turns it turret on you.“NOT SO FAST!” yells Dalia as she fires on the Comet. The shot flies under the turret ring, popping the hatch and sending sparks shooting out of hatch like an ammo cook out. “HAHA!”> KO: CAROLYN ROSETTA (Comet I “Dave”)> KILL CREDITED TO: DALIA EARNHARDT (M18 Hellcat “Mifune”)“Yes! We did it! We-” The Hellcat's engine bank suddenly explodes, a penetrating hit. “Aww...”> KO: DALIA EARNHARDT (M18 Hellcat “Mifune”)> KILL CREDITED TO: MEGAN O'HARA (M24 Chaffee “Michael”)The Chaffee rolls past the ruined Hellcat, then power slides to face its front to you. “We're free!” Josephina pulls the tank out of mire of roots and trees. The Chaffee rushes towards you.> MEGAN O'HARA IS EXECUTING A TACTICAL MANEUVER “NISHIZUMI HOOK”> COMMAND POINTS: 61 CP> INTUITION: - 2 CP> EXECUTE TACTICAL MANEUVER (Which?)> Deploy Smoke (2/3)> APDS Shot (5/5)> APCR Shot (5/5)> Retreat!> ATTACK ATTACK!> Other
>>558917Can't we normally counter Tactical Manoeuvres with a CP cost?
>>558935I forgot to include that option, so it is an option.> COUNTER TACTICAL MANEUVER: - 5 CP
>>558917> INTUITION: - 2 CP> COUNTER TACTICAL MANEUVER: - 5 CP> Other"Jose, stick Oliver in neutral, we can turn on the spot to keep up with the hook! Nona, aim low we don't risk bouncing off the turret front, Stack, load AP, fire on my mark!"Then turn out and wait for the moment.
>>558956Actually, clarification, wait until O'Hara begins the hook to throw it into Neutral, we obviously don't just want to sit there, cause then they'll just shoot us, let them commit first.
>>558917>Retreat!fall back to undercut the Hook then counter attack
>>558917> INTUITION: - 2 CP> COUNTER TACTICAL MANEUVER: - 5 CP> Retreat!We should try to kite them to Iris. Or at least hold them off until she arrives.
>>558967As always, I am willing to listen. This>>558956 is still acceptable.
>>558776>> NORTH ATLANTIC TANKERY ORGANIZATION>> FLAG < **GRISELDA POOL (M4 Sherman – 76mm M1 “Janus”) >> *ELODIE R. ZUMWALT (Cromwell III – QF 6-Pounder “Oliver”)>> *IRIS BLACKBOURNE (Churchill IV – QF 6-Pounder “James)>> “SUVOROV” (Panzer III Ausf. J – 50mm KwK 38 L/42 “Frederick”)>> SERAFINA MACZEK (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “Sokol”)>> REGINA TANEY (IS-2m – D-25T 122mm “David”)>> SERINA HILDEBRAND (Tiger II (P) – 88mm KwK 43 L/71 “Cub”) >> BENNY RODRIGUEZ (Panzer IV Ausf. H – 75mm KwK 40 L/48)>> JANE FOGERTY (Jagdtiger – 128mm PaK 44 L/55)>> ROSEHIP (Crusader III – QF 6 Pndr “Thunder Child”) *ELITE*>> ORANGE PEKOE (Churchill VII – QF 75mm “Kingforce”) *LEGENDARY*>> RUKURIRI (Matilda II – QF 2 Pndr “Surprise”) *ELITE*>> ROZALIYA ULANOVA (SU-76M – 76.2 Zis-3Sh “Columbina”) *LEGENDARY*>> KIM-LY NGUYEN (ISU-152 – 152 ML-20S “Hanoi”) *ELITE* >> VS>> INTERNATIONAL TANKERY LEAGUE>> FLAG < **1. GERTRUDE POOL (M4A1E8 – 76mm M1A2 “Cupid”) *LEGENDARY*>> *2. CATHY MCDOWELL (Churchill IX LT – QF 6 Pndr “Earl”) *ELITE*>> 3. CLARA SAVAGE (Panther Ausf. G - 75mm KwK 42 L/70 “Doc”) *ELITE*>> 4. JANET “JANEK” KOS (M8A1 Scott GMC - 75mm M3 “Szarik”) *ELITE*>> 5. MARINA POLIKARPOV (KV-85 - 85mm D-5T “Chuck”) *ELITE*>> 6. SAMANTHA WHITWORTH (T-34/57 Model 1941 - ZiS-4 57mm gun “John”) *ELITE*>> *7. CHARLOTTE LUCIANO (Panther Ausf. G - 75mm KwK 42 L/70 “Al”) *ELITE*>> 8. JANE KEEGAN (StuG III Ausf. G – 75mm StuK 40 L/48 “Xenophon”) *ELITE*>> 9. MEGAN O'HARA (M24 Chaffee – 75mm M6 “Michael”) *ELITE*>> 10. GEMMA D. WICK (T26E5 Jumbo Pershing – 90mm M3 “Clark) *ELITE*>> 11. DANA ROCKWELL (Sturmpanzer IV Series Three “Stupa – 150mm StuH 43 L/12) *ELITE*>> 12. SARAH DEFOREST (M36B1 Jackson – 90mm M3 “Walt”) *ELITE*>> 14. MICHELLE FRANCOIS (Sherman VC Firefly – QF 17 Pounder “Harry”)14 vs 13
>>558917> INTUITION: - 2 CP> COUNTER TACTICAL MANEUVER: - 5 CPAfterwards, press the attack. We need to destroy them piecemeal, since they'll smoke us if we meet in equal numbers.
>>558977I'd rather keep up the aggression here. To win this match we need to keep the pressure up on them and maintain our aggressive posture. We really can't let this team get a breather or room to fight us, if they do they'll regroup and force us into a straight on fight where the huge skill deficit of our team compared to theirs will take a heavy toll.
>>559009Okay, I will take down a retreat order. And we'll see if countering huys us some time.
> INTUITION: - 2 CP> COUNTER TACTICAL MANEUVER: -5 CPThe Chaffee skids to the right, sliding around. “Josephina, left stick neutral!” The tank starts turning left. The Chaffee continues to slide around until finally it stops with its gun trained on you. And yours as well. You fire, sending the Chaffee spinning away into a tree. A white flag pops out.> KO: MEGAN O'HARA (M24 Chaffee “Michael”)> KILL CREDITED TO: ELODIE R. ZUMWALT (Cromwell III “Oliver”)Rosehip pulls up alongside. “Nice show!” You give her a thumbs up in response.“This is Iris, we're approaching your position,” she says. Alright, you'll be able to make a breakthrough here then.> KO: Kim-ly Nguyen (ISU-152 “Hanoi”)> KILL CREDITED TO: GERTRUDE POOL (M4A1E8 Sherman “Cupid”)“We're down!” says Nguyen. “I'm sorry I couldn't be more help!”“They're flanking us!” yells Jane.“They're coming down the road too!” says Serafina.Griselda tries to rally everyone. “Calm down, calm down! We're coming to assist!”“Wait!” Something's telling you something about this. “Griselda, if you go and assist, she'll win out with her skill and numbers! Let us go back and help!”“No, you keep up the pressure!” yells Griselda.Fuck. Rosehip points to you. “Take the lead, Commander!”> COMMAND POINTS: 54 CP> INTUITION: - 2 CP> EXECUTE TACTICAL MANEUVER (Which?)> Deploy Smoke (2/3)> APDS Shot (5/5)> APCR Shot (5/5)> Go on a wide flank and attempt to take Gertrude's rear> Go back where you came and directly support Griselda> Other
>>558991>>> NORTH ATLANTIC TANKERY ORGANIZATION>>> FLAG < **GRISELDA POOL (M4 Sherman – 76mm M1 “Janus”) >>> *ELODIE R. ZUMWALT (Cromwell III – QF 6-Pounder “Oliver”)>>> *IRIS BLACKBOURNE (Churchill IV – QF 6-Pounder “James)>>> “SUVOROV” (Panzer III Ausf. J – 50mm KwK 38 L/42 “Frederick”)>>> SERAFINA MACZEK (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “Sokol”)>>> REGINA TANEY (IS-2m – D-25T 122mm “David”)>>> SERINA HILDEBRAND (Tiger II (P) – 88mm KwK 43 L/71 “Cub”) >>> BENNY RODRIGUEZ (Panzer IV Ausf. H – 75mm KwK 40 L/48)>>> JANE FOGERTY (Jagdtiger – 128mm PaK 44 L/55)>>> ROSEHIP (Crusader III – QF 6 Pndr “Thunder Child”) *ELITE*>>> ORANGE PEKOE (Churchill VII – QF 75mm “Kingforce”) *LEGENDARY*>>> RUKURIRI (Matilda II – QF 2 Pndr “Surprise”) *ELITE*>>> ROZALIYA ULANOVA (SU-76M – 76.2 Zis-3Sh “Columbina”) *LEGENDARY*>>> VS>>> INTERNATIONAL TANKERY LEAGUE>>> FLAG < **1. GERTRUDE POOL (M4A1E8 – 76mm M1A2 “Cupid”) *LEGENDARY*>>> *2. CATHY MCDOWELL (Churchill IX LT – QF 6 Pndr “Earl”) *ELITE*>>> 3. CLARA SAVAGE (Panther Ausf. G - 75mm KwK 42 L/70 “Doc”) *ELITE*>>> 4. JANET “JANEK” KOS (M8A1 Scott GMC - 75mm M3 “Szarik”) *ELITE*>>> 5. MARINA POLIKARPOV (KV-85 - 85mm D-5T “Chuck”) *ELITE*>>> 6. SAMANTHA WHITWORTH (T-34/57 Model 1941 - ZiS-4 57mm gun “John”) *ELITE*>>> *7. CHARLOTTE LUCIANO (Panther Ausf. G - 75mm KwK 42 L/70 “Al”) *ELITE*>>> 8. JANE KEEGAN (StuG III Ausf. G – 75mm StuK 40 L/48 “Xenophon”) *ELITE*>>> 10. GEMMA D. WICK (T26E5 Jumbo Pershing – 90mm M3 “Clark) *ELITE*>>> 11. DANA ROCKWELL (Sturmpanzer IV Series Three “Stupa – 150mm StuH 43 L/12) *ELITE*>>> 12. SARAH DEFOREST (M36B1 Jackson – 90mm M3 “Walt”) *ELITE*>>> 14. MICHELLE FRANCOIS (Sherman VC Firefly – QF 17 Pounder “Harry”) 13 vs 12
>>559092>Go on a wide flank and attempt to take Gertrude's rearIts not the best plan, but Gris-Gris will know what we're doing and adjust as it goes.
>>559092> Go on a wide flank and attempt to take Gertrude's rearHigh speed, all the way. At best, we'll surprise them outright. At worst, we make them split their attention.
>>559092>> Go on a wide flank and attempt to take Gertrude's rear
>>559092>Go on a wide flank and attempt to take Gertrude's rearMight as well make an attempt.
>>559092> INTUITION: - 2 CP> Other"Iris, get on the road and make best possible speed towards Treherneville, you'll outflank Getrude's attack and she'll have to pull back. Griselda, pull your platoon in tight to the South of Roza, then disengage if you can, roll back up the 618 to support Iris and I. Roza, you'll have to pivot your line again, pull back West to the edge of the treeline so you won't be exposed when Gris pulls out, you'll have to delay the ITL advance for as long as you can, can you handle that? Rosehip and I will find and will bait out the Poles and then push to Treherneville."Basically we turn our own flank, drawing them in further so that a potential move through Treherneville is even more devasting while strengthening our own position.
>>559134>...attempt to take Gertrude's rear>Might as well make an attempt.Why not. Everyone else at school has
>>559144>will find and will bait out the Poles"Will find or bait out the Poles" is what I meant to say, they'll probably try and snipe Anvil as it advances along 618/622 to Treherneville, we'll be waiting and take them out as soon as they try it.
>>559144I will support this action. I don't know if pulling a rear shot will do the job.
>>559092 Go on a wide flank and attempt to take Gertrude's rearToo damn lewd
>>559185>>559134>>559128>>559121>>559116Guys we were warned by intuition that a straight flank wouldn't work. See: > “Wait!” Something's telling you something about this. “Griselda, if you go and assist, she'll win out with her skill and numbers! Let us go back and help!”Either we send back some help or go ourselves and let someone else do the flank, or we pull Griselda away from contact.
>>559144I will back this option.
>>559210I know, I doubt Gris-Gris will back off. She's rolling into a shitstorm, we're rolling to get her out.
>>559229The problem with a wide flank is if she doesn't pull back, by the time we get around she'll have taken heavy losses in all likelyhood, or even in a worst case scenario, gotten sniped. And that would be the end of the match, and she'd go through the same feelings as when she dropped the Kursk match as flag tank, not a good result. We have to convince she's got to play this smart, Roza and the rest of her platoon were always expendable in this strategy, they just have to sell their tanks dearly enough that the rest of us can pull out a win.
>>559259Hey anon, I need some clarification, where the fuck is this Trehernville on the map, I don't see it.
>>559269Basically that big red circle with the ? in it.
>>559292Huh.Well fuck you google maps, it would've been nice to see that at any given point.
>>559210Ahab has met her white whale, so to speak, so I doubt Griselda is willing to retreat. The same with Gertrude, for that matter. Both flag tanks are willingly operating on the front. If we can put pressure on the flank, we'll either compromise Gertrude's position and force her to fall back and relieve pressure on Griselda and her group, or we'll be able to strike at the sides and rear of Gertrude's heavies while they're occupied with the heavy platoon.
>>559310Possibly, but I'd rather try. I'm still advocating a flank in >>559144 but I just don't want to do it without trying to shore up our position. We can appeal to Griselda's sense of responsibility. She owes it to the team, her team not to rush into something now.
> INTUITION: - 2 CP> Other“Iris, get on the road make your way to Treherneville, you'll outflank Gertrude that way!”“Got it,” says Iris.“Griselda, you need to pull yourself behind Rozaliya and let her-”“I am NOT letting my sister get away with this!” yells Griselda.“Griselda!” She doesn't respond over the radio. “Shit! Rozaliya.”“Pool is going on all out charge against enemy flag! Will attempt to delay!”“Thank you! We'll try and find the Poles and then push!”> KO: JANE FOGERTY (Jagdtiger)> KILL CREDITED TO: MICHELLE FRANCOIS (Sherman VC Firefly – QF 17 Pounder “Harry”)“Aw, come on! That's not fair! We weren't even moving!” yells Jane. “They got us from the side, I demand a reset!”“Jagdtigers aren't very fast to begin with, deal with it!” says Suvorov.> KO: BENNY RODRIGUEZ (Panzer IV Ausf. H)> KILL CREDITED TO: CATHY MCDOWELL (Churchill IX LT “Earl”)“Augh! We're killed, sorry!” says Benny.“We are charging in!” yells Rozaliya.> KO: MARINA POLIKARPOV (KV-85 “Chuck”) (ELITE)> KILL CREDITED TO: ROZALIYA ULANOVA (SU-76M “Columbina”)(LEGENDARY)> KO: JANE KEEGAN (StuG III Ausf. G “Xenophon”) (ELITE)> KILL CREDITED TO: ROZALIYA ULANOVA (SU-76M “Columbina”)(LEGENDARY)“It appears our Russian friend is going on a tear,” says Orange Pekoe.“I'm jealous!” yells Rosehip.“So am I!” yells Serafina. You hear a loud ding over her radio. “Ow! Someone shot us! Fucker!”As you comb the hills for the Poles who seem to have mysteriously vanished, Iris contacts you. “I'm looking at the battle now. It appears Gertrude is locked in combat, she doesn't seem interested in maintaining her flank anymore.”“Damn,” you say. You were hoping she'd lighten off if her flank was threatened, even caved in. Your intuition is telling you that Gertrude is now completely all in on this attack, and she's probably hoping individual skill will carry her over weight of numbers.“We'll move in,” says Iris.> COMMAND POINTS: 52 CP> INTUITION: - 2 CP> EXECUTE TACTICAL MANEUVER (Which?)> Deploy Smoke (2/3)> APDS Shot (5/5)> APCR Shot (5/5)> Go, Iris, we'll catch up when we find the Poles.> Move in with Iris.> Other
>>559309The amazing case of the disappearing township indeed.
>>559356>Move in with Iris.Go all in. Yell at the Poles to get their asses in here in the name of John Sobieski
>>559356> INTUITION: - 2 CP> APDS Shot (5/5)> OtherThe Poles will have to wait, either Iris or whoever else finds them can deal with them. Flank speed straight East to the treeline next to 625, close to within 500m of the enemy advance. Leave Iris behind to pursue a more conventional flank, but once we get into that position stop and just start pouring fire into the sides of the ITL team. Put an APDS round into the biggest tank we can see first, we'll draw attention and fire away from our holding platoons.
>>559356> Move in with Iris
>>559356Stack can't LOCKDOWN at the moment either right?
>> NORTH ATLANTIC TANKERY ORGANIZATION>> FLAG < **GRISELDA POOL (M4 Sherman – 76mm M1 “Janus”) >> *ELODIE R. ZUMWALT (Cromwell III – QF 6-Pounder “Oliver”)>> *IRIS BLACKBOURNE (Churchill IV – QF 6-Pounder “James)>> “SUVOROV” (Panzer III Ausf. J – 50mm KwK 38 L/42 “Frederick”)>> SERAFINA MACZEK (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “Sokol”)>> REGINA TANEY (IS-2m – D-25T 122mm “David”)>> SERINA HILDEBRAND (Tiger II (P) – 88mm KwK 43 L/71 “Cub”) >> ROSEHIP (Crusader III – QF 6 Pndr “Thunder Child”) *ELITE*>> ORANGE PEKOE (Churchill VII – QF 75mm “Kingforce”) *LEGENDARY*>> RUKURIRI (Matilda II – QF 2 Pndr “Surprise”) *ELITE*>> ROZALIYA ULANOVA (SU-76M – 76.2 Zis-3Sh “Columbina”) *LEGENDARY*>> KIM-LY NGUYEN (ISU-152 – 152 ML-20S “Hanoi”) *ELITE* >> VS>> INTERNATIONAL TANKERY LEAGUE>> FLAG < **1. GERTRUDE POOL (M4A1E8 – 76mm M1A2 “Cupid”) *LEGENDARY*>> *2. CATHY MCDOWELL (Churchill IX LT – QF 6 Pndr “Earl”) *ELITE*>> 3. CLARA SAVAGE (Panther Ausf. G - 75mm KwK 42 L/70 “Doc”) *ELITE*>> 4. JANET “JANEK” KOS (M8A1 Scott GMC - 75mm M3 “Szarik”) *ELITE*>> 6. SAMANTHA WHITWORTH (T-34/57 Model 1941 - ZiS-4 57mm gun “John”) *ELITE*>> *7. CHARLOTTE LUCIANO (Panther Ausf. G - 75mm KwK 42 L/70 “Al”) *ELITE*>> 10. GEMMA D. WICK (T26E5 Jumbo Pershing – 90mm M3 “Clark) *ELITE*>> 11. DANA ROCKWELL (Sturmpanzer IV Series Three “Stupa – 150mm StuH 43 L/12) *ELITE*>> 12. SARAH DEFOREST (M36B1 Jackson – 90mm M3 “Walt”) *ELITE*>> 14. MICHELLE FRANCOIS (Sherman VC Firefly – QF 17 Pounder “Harry”)
>>559414Not at the moment no. I'm not entirely sure why, my mechanics aren't completely in order.
>>559405>>559405Yeah that seems okay. I really want to focus on the poles as I am afraid that they'll snipe something in on us. But Iris may be able to whether the storm better than we could.
>>559428We're down to 11. Kim-Ly is out.
>>559431I think we require their loyalty first. I think? Regardless, even without lockdown by the next post we should be able to get off two or three well aimed shots from a stationary position. One of the benefits of the Cromwells smaller gun boxy turret is that the interior's actually pretty comfy for its size, and there's room for a loader's arms to move. It's one of the downsides to the Comet actually, the rounded turret and much larger 77mm breach make the loader's position a bit of a tight fit.
>>559450Sorry on my iPhone when doing this
Do we know where all the ITL tanks are?
>>559480I think Stupa might still be unaccounted for, not sure though
> INTUITION: - 2 CP> Other > APDS Shot (5/5)You explain the plan to the team around you, and they quickly agree to it. See, you're not just going to rush in. You're going to go in and help but in a very deliberate and cautious manner. Iris will flank directly south, while you are now heading flank speed with Rosehip to pursue the treeline and attack from a distance.> KO: REGINA TANEY (IS-2m “David”)> KILL CREDITED TO: GERTRUDE POOL (M4A1E8 Sherman “Cupid”) (LEGENDARY)“We're dead! Fuck!” yells Regina.> KO: SUVOROV (Panzer III Ausf. J “Frederick”)> KILL CREDITED TO: CLARA SAVAGE (Panther Ausf. G “Doc”)“We're dead too!” yells Suvorov. “Kick their asses for us in the name of the RUSSIAN EMPIRE!”“DA!” yells Rozalia.> KO: CHARLOTTE LUCIANO (Panther Ausf. G “Al”)> KILL CREDITED TO: ROZALIYA ULANOVA (SU-76M “Columbina”)Once you arrive at the tree line, you decide to advance closer until you see the juicy flanks of some tanks engaging Griselda's remaining tanks at close range. “Put some APDS up the ass of the closest tank you can see, Winona!”“Got it!” The turret traverses around, and finds a juicy target.> KO: GEMMA D. WICK (T26E5 Jumbo Pershing “Clark”)> KILL CREDITED TO: ELODIE R. ZUMWALT (Cromwell III “Oliver”)“Ha! Nice shot!” yells Stack.However, it's friends the Panther and the Firefly immediately turn their sights on you. They turn around on the spot.Oh shit.“CHAAARGE!” Rosehip's tank suddenly whips past you and places a Six Pounder shot right into the turret of the Panther.> KO: CLARA SAVAGE (Panther Ausf. G “Doc”)> KILL CREDITED TO: ROSEHIP (Crusader III)“Now, get the Firefly!” You fire the next shot, a standard APCBC round, but it plinks off the turret side and it goes retreating away to the safety of a formation of a T-34/57, a Sturmpanzer, and an M36 Jackson.Meanwhile though, you see Griselda and Gertrude's tanks are now fully engaged. Shit! They charge at each other to point blank range and fire, their shots scraping their sides. They're jousting at this point, damn!And if Gertrude has closed in, she must think she can win this!> COMMAND POINTS: 50 CP> INTUITION: - 2 CP> EXECUTE TACTICAL MANEUVER (Which?)> Deploy Smoke (2/3)> APDS Shot (5/5)> APCR Shot (5/5)> Charge in and try to save Griselda> Attack the group of tanks covering Gertrude> Other
>>559573> Attack the group of tanks covering GertrudeThere's no stopping them. We will have angry words with both of them afterwards.Very Angry Words.
>>559573> OtherFocus all force on Gertrude. Huck some smoke at the Firefly's formation for good measure.
>>559573> Attack the group of tanks covering Gertrude
>>559573> Deploy Smoke (2/3)> Attack the group of tanks covering Gertrude> EXECUTE TACTICAL MANEUVER "SHIMADA DEATH BLOSSOM" (-15 CP)> APDS Shot/s (4/5)> Other"Rosehip, Roza you need to keep Griselda alive! Take a shot for her if you have to, got it?"Tell Serafina to give us cover fire on the way in, then charge into the mass of the ITL team and spew Discarding Sabot death at them while doing a neato spin.
>>559428>>> NORTH ATLANTIC TANKERY ORGANIZATION>>> FLAG < **GRISELDA POOL (M4 Sherman – 76mm M1 “Janus”) >>> *ELODIE R. ZUMWALT (Cromwell III – QF 6-Pounder “Oliver”)>>> *IRIS BLACKBOURNE (Churchill IV – QF 6-Pounder “James)>>> SERAFINA MACZEK (M26 Pershing – 90mm M3 “Sokol”)>>> SERINA HILDEBRAND (Tiger II (P) – 88mm KwK 43 L/71 “Cub”) >>> ROSEHIP (Crusader III – QF 6 Pndr “Thunder Child”) *ELITE*>>> ORANGE PEKOE (Churchill VII – QF 75mm “Kingforce”) *LEGENDARY*>>> RUKURIRI (Matilda II – QF 2 Pndr “Surprise”) *ELITE*>>> ROZALIYA ULANOVA (SU-76M – 76.2 Zis-3Sh “Columbina”) *LEGENDARY*>>> VS>>> INTERNATIONAL TANKERY LEAGUE>>> FLAG < **1. GERTRUDE POOL (M4A1E8 – 76mm M1A2 “Cupid”) *LEGENDARY*>>> *2. CATHY MCDOWELL (Churchill IX LT – QF 6 Pndr “Earl”) *ELITE*>>> 4. JANET “JANEK” KOS (M8A1 Scott GMC - 75mm M3 “Szarik”) *ELITE*>>> 6. SAMANTHA WHITWORTH (T-34/57 Model 1941 - ZiS-4 57mm gun “John”) *ELITE*>>> 11. DANA ROCKWELL (Sturmpanzer IV Series Three “Stupa – 150mm StuH 43 L/12) *ELITE*>>> 12. SARAH DEFOREST (M36B1 Jackson – 90mm M3 “Walt”) *ELITE*>>> 14. MICHELLE FRANCOIS (Sherman VC Firefly – QF 17 Pounder “Harry”)9 vs 7
>>559573>Attack the group of tanks covering Gertrude
>>559645Ooh I like this. It may be time to go balls to the wall.
>>559573Ram the both of them. They are both being silly.
>>559683It'll leave us with our arse out in the breeze afterwards but hopefully Iris and co will show up in the nick of time to save us.
>>559573> Attack the group of tanks covering GertrudeLet the sisters settle their aggression. If we try to interfere, we'll just end up with the both of them pissed at us.
>>559690Well, I don't think the death blossom is happening today based on votes. We'll just have to save it for a NATO match. I am sure it will get us some votes here. Doubt we will see votes here...or will they?That said if we could get away with it I'd almost want to Special Gris Gris so that her and Gertrude can shake off their stupidity.
>>559732I think that we need to do something big here, if not going balls out on the rest of the ITL team I'd say charge in and try to save Griselda, go for a dual Nishizumi Hook from different sides.
>>559746Or even better, getting Roza and Rosehip to also charge in and perform hooks from all four points of the compass. We could invent our own Coop Manoeuvre!
>>559760JET STREAM ATTACK
> Attack the group of tanks covering Gertrude“Rozaliya, save Gertrude!” You and Rosehip charge at Gertrude's remaining tanks as they start to form a loose circle formation.Rozaliya rushes into the fray, trying to separate the two as they ram and bash their gun barrels against each other trying to get a good shot in. Even with Gertrude's tanks having clear shots on Griselda, no one dares to kill steal Gertrude in this situation. And Rozaliya appears to have made the mistake of her life as Gertrude rams the SU-76 in its side and smashes it against Griselda's hull. Griselda reverses away to try and help it, but it's too late.> KO: ROZALIYA ULANOVA (SU-76M “Columbina”)> KILL CREDITED TO: GERTRUDE POOL (M4A1E8 Sherman “Cupid”)Griselda fires a shot, which bounces straight off the turret of Gertrude, and they immediately go back to wrestling their tanks against each other.Meanwhile...You blow past the Firefly and end up surprising the tanks in their circle. Coming in to support is Iris herself. She fires a shot, nailing her counterpart straight in the engine block.> KO: CATHY MCDOWELL (Churchill IX LT “Earl”)> KILL CREDITED TO: IRIS BLACKBOURNE (Churchill IV “James”)Orange Pekoe as well fires a shot, planted directed into the Firefly's turret ring.> KO: MICHELLE FRANCOIS (Sherman VC Firefly “Harry”)> KILL CREDITED TO: ORANGE PEKOE (Churchill VII “Kingforce”)As your tanks start duking and brawling out with the remainder of Gertrude's forces, you take another look back at the sister's battle. Suddenly, you see Serafina, who had been hiding away in the corpses of her team. “Hold on, Griselda, I'll save you!” yells Serafina. She trains her gun barrel on Gertrude and fires.But suddenly, the Senior Poles explode out of nowhere from some nearby bushes. Their Scott rushes in and tanks the shot, spinning out and landing on their side.> KO: JANET “JANEK” KOS (M8A1 Scott “Szarik”)> KILL CREDITED TO: SERAFINA MACZEK (M26 Pershing “Sokol”)“Nooooooo!” yells Serafina. “Not my seniors-” The Jackson plants a shot into their mantlet.> KO: SERAFINA MACZEK (M26 Pershing “Sokol”)> KILL CREDITED TO: SARAH DEFOREST (M36B1 Jackson “Walt”)“Griselda!” you yell. The two sisters gun barrels bash and whip at each other, trying to get a lock on the other tank. “Pull back, we can help you-”Suddenly, the two are engulfed in smoke. Someone shot the other....
>>559824*Mashing Update Intesifies*
>>559836I think it's pretty clear that Gertrude won, but I guess we'll have to see.
>>559849Gertrude winning here might destroy Griselda, especially after losing her cool like she did.
>>559824>yfw both shells hit each other dead on midair
>>559859turns out Its Papa Pool, stopping both Sherman with his barehand because "they play too rough".
>>559868We already did that in LGA 1, I don't think Gertrude has the skills to pull it off again.
>>559859Ideally this would be Griselda's low point and the slap in the face she needs to get her shit together and stop worrying so much about being in her sister's shadow.
>>559869I have to imagine that Papa Pool has caught wise as to whats going on in the booth. The sisters have not been subtle.Hell I think quite a few in the stands know as well.
> KO: GRISELDA POOL (M4A3E8 Sherman “Janus”)> KILL CREDITED TO: GERTRUDE POOL (M4A1E8 Sherman “Cupid”)> NATO'S FLAG TANK HAS BEEN RENDERED INOPERABLE> THE ITL IS VICTORIOUS!--As the sun starts to set on the day, Gertrude and Griselda shake hands, glaring each other down in what is quite possibly the most icy post-match meeting that ever occurred. “Good match,” says Gertrude.“Likewise,” Griselda says very coolly. Suddenly, their Dad comes through the crowd, and the two immediately adopt smiles for him.“Hey, girls!” says Mister Pool. “That was a great match! You two put on quite the show!” The two of them nod, glancing at each other before nodding along with their Dad. “Got really vicious at the end there though. I've never seen tankers fight like that.”“Well, I was inspired by Anzio, they sometimes do that,” says Gertrude.“Yeah, Ooarai has a StuG, does that too sometimes,” says Griselda.Mister Pool smiles. “Well, you two were great regardless. I'll see you two tomorrow at the fair on LGA, alright?”“Alright!” they both say. And with that, Mister Pool wishes you all good luck and leaves.…Gertrude squints at Griselda. “Well.”“Well.” Griselda motions for Gertrude to leave. “You should be going, Gertrude.”“Right.” Gertrude shoves her hands in her pockets, then looks at you, Iris, a very confused Rosehip, and concerned looking Orange Pekoe and Rozaliya. “Everybody. It was good to see you. Orange Pekoe, you especially. We'll see each other tomorrow.” With that, Gertrude turns around and leaves. The rest of the ITL team doesn't seem to want to leave, the Poles especially want to talk with each other, but no one seems to dare go against Gertrude right now, not Kitten, not Gertrude's crew, nobody. So they leave.Griselda places her hands on her hips, watching Gertrude leave. Iris steps up to her. “Are you okay?”“Peachy,” Griselda says quickly. “I'm sorry, I guess I got too eager. That was my fault.”“There'll be next time!” says Suvorov. “We'll get her then!” A few heads nod and others agree at the prospect of a rematch.Griselda huffs. “Let's get out of here.” You all start walking back to the ferries to take you back to LGA.Stack tugs your arm, whispering in your ear. “I'm worried. Maybe you should talk to her.”> “Sure, I'll talk to her now.”> “I'll talk to her tonight in her tent.”> “Nah, she needs a bit of alone time.”> Other
>>559824>Even with Gertrude's tanks having clear shots on GriseldaEven if Griselda won the duel, she should have lost the battle, and we ought to point that out to her at the earliest opportunity. A good commander can't afford to get tunnel vision like that, especially when they're also the flag tank.
>>559885>> “I'll talk to her tonight in her tent.”
>>559885>> “I'll talk to her tonight in her tent.”give her a bit of time but talk to her asap.Just don't blame her.
>>559824Regardless of which sister wins (or double KO), both teams need to sit them down and give them a good stern talking to.
>>559885>“I'll talk to her tonight in her tent.”We DO need to chew her out, but making her lose face in front of the entire team won't solve anything.
>>559885> “I'll talk to her tonight in her tent.”I think she might need to here some hard but honest words. I'm disappointed in her. This was an opportunity for her to rise above what happened last year and show herself and the world that she'd grown as a commander and as a woman. >>559896If she'd won the duel that would've been the match won too.
>>559885> “Sure, I'll talk to her now.”Go full angry mom on her.>not thinking of the team>losing control in a match>dumping a plan for personal reasons>wasn't even a match, just a fist fight by proxie
>>559907Why did you think it was a double ko Cupid had kingdom hearts second chance
>>559885> “Sure, I'll talk to her now.”Jesus fuck, Griselda. We might be minor league, but that battle was fucking bush league.
>>559885> “I'll talk to her tonight in her tent.”Don't know why it deleted my post but...We forgave the Poles, we'll forgive her. But she won't want an I told you so right now.We will be the confidant and the stern force in private. And be the shoulder when she needs it.
>>559920Sorry, I phrased that poorly. My point was that Griselda should have been knocked out before the duel even took place if she'd been up against a more serious team that wasn't holding back. Even if she had won the duel, it wouldn't have been a proper victory since half of Gertrude's team was basically letting it happen.
>>559648>>> NORTH ATLANTIC TANKERY ORGANIZATION>>>> *ELODIE R. ZUMWALT (Cromwell III – QF 6-Pounder “Oliver”)>>>> *IRIS BLACKBOURNE (Churchill IV – QF 6-Pounder “James)>>>> SERINA HILDEBRAND (Tiger II (P) – 88mm KwK 43 L/71 “Cub”) >>>> ROSEHIP (Crusader III – QF 6 Pndr “Thunder Child”) *ELITE*>>>> ORANGE PEKOE (Churchill VII – QF 75mm “Kingforce”) *LEGENDARY*>>>> RUKURIRI (Matilda II – QF 2 Pndr “Surprise”) *ELITE*>>>> VS>>>> INTERNATIONAL TANKERY LEAGUE>>>> FLAG < **1. GERTRUDE POOL (M4A1E8 – 76mm M1A2 “Cupid”) *LEGENDARY*>>>> 6. SAMANTHA WHITWORTH (T-34/57 Model 1941 - ZiS-4 57mm gun “John”) *ELITE*>>>> 11. DANA ROCKWELL (Sturmpanzer IV Series Three “Stupa – 150mm StuH 43 L/12) *ELITE*>>>> 12. SARAH DEFOREST (M36B1 Jackson – 90mm M3 “Walt”) *ELITE*>>5596486 vs 4LOST
I still can't believe anyone thought a match between the two teams was a good idea.
>>559920Oh so we get to scold someone? I mean Griselda pulled a Polish. She is fucking smarter then that
>>559995It could have been a good bonding experience, but at least on my end I seriously underestimated how much resentment and bitterness Griselda was holding on to. That's definitely something we'll have to work out of her going forward.
>>559962That was one thing, they were still rookies. Griselda is not. She just threw a match that was not only a chance for her to prove herself but for her to prove her team and her whole League. It had the potential to get everyone to sit up and say "Oh shit, maybe this NATO league's onto something here" instead she went beserk and blew it because of an inferiority complex. That's deserving of stern talking to at the very least.>>559995I thought Gris was better than this.
>>560007You didn't know that. Of coarse she does but I expected her to man up during the match. So she fucked up.We told her this on 3 or 4 separate occasions. The brat.
>>559995Yeah, it doesn't even seem to have resolved any issues between the sisters, and may possibly have made things worse. Gertrude seems just as disappointed in her sister right now as we are.
>>560014Our intuition told us otherwise demon were you reading how Gertrude went in because she knew she would win and wouldn't risk it otherwise
I guess a Bright Punch will needed tonight.Lets hope we don't need to use it.
>>560034Not better at tankery, better as a person.
>>560040What's the difference remember tannery is meant to make a woman more refine or something like that
>>560014>That's deserving of stern talking to at the very least.>>560027>So she fucked up.I agree with both of these 100%. Griselda knows better and I for one expected more of her, which I think we should make clear to her tonight in the tent.
>>560007>>560014This should have been obvious. No not even in retrospect, the number of arguments the two have had should have demonstrated this.I sure as hell wouldn't start telling her she fucked up either. You think she doesn't know?
>>560040We should probably pull up the advice we were given to her. About how Tankery is suplosed to be fun as opposed to be about the victory. I can't recall the exact quote, but that is the gist of it.
>>560054I expect that she knows but I'm not sure that she really understands, if that makes sense. She might know on an intellectual level that she made a mistake, but I want to drill it into her skull that this was not acceptable behavior and she needs to get over herself if she wants the team to get anywhere.
> “I'll talk to her tonight in her tent.”--You arrive at Griselda's tent. With Oleg taking in all the repairs for tonight, Griselda's tent was bereft of Janus the E8. You poked your head in and saw Griselda sitting at her desk, typing up the reports for repairs on her tanks alone, her face warmly lit by the lamplight she works with. “Griselda.” She looks over, leaning back in her seat. “Can we talk?”She considers it for a few seconds, looking at the ground, then nods. “Sure.” You step in, then take a seat on her cot, letting sit right where she is. “What's there to talk about.”“The match.” You lean in a little. “You know, that was a won game. We had them on the ropes. Gertrude was throwing herself at us, we caught her in a corner. And if you had just stayed back, we could've won it. Hell, they weren't even shooting at you when they had clear shots. So why did that happen?” you ask.This was something that Mom always did to you when you did something wrong. “Why did you let it happen?” she would ask. You hated it. But it was the way she taught you to recognize when you did something wrong. And for now, it would be how you'd get Griselda to recognize what she did wrong.Griselda is silent for a few seconds, definitely chewing on her cheeks a bit. “It happened because I wanted to win.”“I just told you, we could've won easily, so there's more than that,” you say.“There's nothing more than that,” Griselda says, obvious letting on that there's more than that.“Griselda. You just embarrassed not just yourself, but our team too, and the entirety of NATO as well. St. Gloriana put their stake in this, Kursk as well, even Zhou Enlai probably would've if we let them. You just wasted their time.” You stand up, addressing her like your mom would you. “What do you have to say for yourself?”She glares at the ground, sighing. “Nothing. It's another day tomorrow, we'll move on and deal with it. I have to get things ready for the match with Kursk anyway,” she says as she goes back to her typewriter. “Good night, Elodie,” she says, clearly wanting to be done with conversation.> “Well, good night then.”> Give Griselda a stern talking to.> Comfort Griselda.> Other
>>560054Yes we should. Not calling her on it will make her repeat the mistakes.Also again after the Polish team incident and after we told her 3 to 4 times about this. She fucked up the plan, when we had the advantage
>>560054Agreed. We should be stern, but supportive. As we were with the Poles. They came out better for it. I think Gris-Gris can.
>>560069> Typo: Not Kursk, Hugo Gernsback
>>560069> Give Griselda a stern talking to.> Comfort Griselda.Stern talking to, finish with letting her know we're still her friend and there for her, we wouldn't be doing this if we didn't care.
>>560066That's a surefire way to get her to explode. What are you going to tell her? Stop being angry at her sister? She hasn't caused problems in any other match but this one. Which we suggested in the first place. And she was against.
>>560069>Give Griselda a stern talking to.Sorry Griselda, but that's not good enough. You can do better than this, I know that and you know that, but it won't happen unless you actually talk about your issues. Don't just let them build up inside you or we're going to have a lot more days like today in our future.
>>560069>> Give Griselda a stern talking to.don't mind my pic.
>>560069>Give Griselda a stern talking to.>"If you'd held back like this during the match you wouldn't have to be running from it now."
>>560069>> Give Griselda a stern talking to.Fuck no we are having this discussion now. She is our fucking captain and we shouldn't put up with this bullshit.
>>56006910 liter carton of ice cream or American equivalent. Fuck talking.
>>560069> Comfort Griselda.Give hug. Hold for a moment. Ask again. If she denies, then pic related
>>560069> Give Griselda a stern talking to.> Comfort GriseldaThere is no reason to not do both. We are her friend. And as her friend we have to tell her. But we also have to be there after it is over.
>>560086> Let's see you grit those teeth Griselda!
>>560081>She hasn't caused problems in any other match but this one.For now that's true, but I for one expect it to get worse as the seething resentment builds up inside her. My biggest concern is that if we don't get this all out in the open, then something like this will happen again when there's more than just pride at stake.
>>560069> Give Griselda a stern talking to.If we need to, offer to resign our post as a platoon officer, given that our commander doesn't listen to her subordinates.
>>560069> Give Griselda a stern talking to.> Comfort Griselda.Make sure she knows that it's thanks to her stubborn pride that she was able to narrowly grasp defeat from the jaws of victory.Afterwards make absolutely certain that she knows the team is still behind her 100%.
>>560069>>560103Supporting this. Offer to resign. It's one thing if the Poles do it but she is our commanding officer
>>560103Just beware, that might broke her even further.
>>560130Especially with the whole Tessa and Athena thing.
>>560130Then she shouldn't be commanding this team. She made several poor decisions and we tolerated too much.Now she is avoiding the subject. Comforting her will be when she understands her fuck up
>>560103>>560126100% against this. She does not nees a brutal reminder of the two teammates that left her. Jesus...
>>560103No no no, her crew members leaving is part of what got her into this mess to begin with, the last thing we need to do is drive her deeper into resentment and anger by abandoning her. She does need to shape up, but we have to stick with her and help, not ditch her because it's too hard.
>>560141>>560146Then do not comfort her. We pulled up with her bullshit and reminded her in several occasions to no avail. Those two girls that left. They understood this because they did not want to be a part of her ego war with her sister
>>560069> Give Griselda a stern talking to.But also be there to support her afterwards.
>>560158I certainly didn't vote to comfort her and don't think we should, but threatening to resign is going way too far in the other direction. She needs friends if she's going to get out of this rut, which means we need to be there for her.
>>560163We tried. But she did not do anything about it and cost us the match.We made the other schools who helped us out of good will look bad because of a incompetent commander: if it was any other sport or fight that would have bad repercussions to the team leader.
>meanwhile, Schteel wonders what kind of hell he has just unleashed.
>>560141>>560146Its simple, we drag her through the mud now so we can avoid her weakness undermining the team in the future.
>>560180Oh please. This is nothing.
>>560173Which is why we're gearing up to tear a strip out of her hide right now, it's not like we're going to let this one go. Leaving her won't solve the problem though, if anything I strongly suspect that it would only make it worse by reminding her of last year.
>>560190Yeah, everyone's still civil, just different views and some conversation between the players about what they want to do.
>>560185Yeah? But she fails to see she fucked up. Threatening our resignation does make sense if the officer doesn't admit to be at fault, we are her co commander for god's sake.Despite being cute girls doing cute things and Griselda being a cute girl, she is being a incompetent leader
>>560141>>560146>>560163We tried patience and understatement before, and they obviously didn't work. Now it's time for the metaphorical cold water to the face.
>>560180>>560190Yeah, compared to the Fairless incident this is actually pretty lighthearted.
>>560190Yeah, still pale compared to that one time we put harem route.Anyway, no more soft talk. If needed, we will temporarily crewed with her to act as her personal Commissar.
>>560194I meant that this shitstorm pales in significance to some of the other bullshit in quest history.
>>560201Still my favorite screencap.
>>560201That is my favourite screen cap of LGA 1, even though it ended up being fine, it's such pure despair. >>560205This isn't a shitstorm, it's just people posting. For now.
Besides, threatening to resign can backfire.What if she just "fine. Goodbye then Elodie" and dismiss us?
>>560201>Yeah, compared to the Fairless incident this is actually pretty lighthearted.What's really funny is that it wasn't a routelock and we ended up in a three-way relationship with both Kitten and Fairless.
>>560193Reminding her is a perfect example. Because she hasn't learne a thing or 'WHY' they left. She humiliated the other schools.Made our keyword 'OUR' NATO team look bad.For what? Tell me why we should be nice?Because she will break?If she does then she can pick herself up and become better or shatter. For you to cuddle her like this shows you have no confidence in her as a leader or to gain any development
>>560219Quest ends as Elodie retires from Tankery. RIP LGA 2.
>>560205>>560215I wouldn't call this a shitstorm just yet, so far it's actually been remarkably civil disagreement. I don't agree with the people saying we ought to threaten resignation but I can admit that they have a point and are debating in good faith, which is more than I can say for a lot of quests.
>>560225Nah, we proved our salt. We can join any other team. Maybe Rosehip can put in a good word
>>560223Because it was a friendly match between the same school that she ADVISED AGAINST in the first place!?
>>560222Oh I remember that quite well, I'm just commenting on the quality of the discourse here versus the total fucking chaos that took over the thread in that instance.
>>560219Then she loses one of her star players, probably an entire crew, and whatever confidence the rest of the team has. Doing so would be suicidal for the team.
>>560225I rather hijack the team and show Gris-gris how to command than leave NATO team as it.Not after we trying to find new recruit for our team.
>>560230only if we can get a scholarship though, were still part of the naval studies thing after all>>560239This works too
>>560239That'll just make us Gertrude 2.0
>>560234For what reason? If we lost or had a decently close match against international league. Sure. I can accept this but she threw away the match.She made such a textbook mistake when we had it in our grasp, what does that say about her command?
>>560239>>560230>>560243I was joking guys... You don't seriously think we're going to leave the team right?
>>560103I'm supporting this, we need to do something drastic otherwise Griselda is just going to wallow in herself forever. If she dismisses us then that's that, we are doing this not only for her sake, but for our team's too.>>560201>dat screencapi cri evertim, for I too know the pain of shitty grilled cheese sandwiches that I fucked up.
>>560223>For you to cuddle her like thisWhere did I say that we should coddle her? I am completely in favor of taking her to task for this and making her confront the fact that she failed the team, I just think that risking a breakdown is counterproductive if we want her to improve. We want her to be better, not wallow in self-loathing and anger.
>>560244Eli and Iris are carrying this team. They make up one Gertrude
>>560236Do you expect Griselda is in rational mind of state to realize that? No telling how she will react on this. She might straighten out, or she might just break and dismiss Elodie.>>560244With less charisma, i guess. But bigger tits.
>>560249It says that she knew very well this was likely to happen but allowed herself to be pressured into it by an overbearing subordinate who gets herself into everything.
>>560252We are not but we are making a point for any other crew they are entirely justified in doing so
>>560257Iris wouldn't abandon Gris, their names are too close together and Iris is too honourabru. For what it's worth I think we shouldn't threaten to resign, we can appeal to her with more effective and less risky pleas. I think rushing headlong into a threat like that is risking the same kind of thing that happened yesterday where we tactlessly tried to rush the Athena and Tessa stuff.
>>560265And she could have said no. She knew the team needed the experience.We were in the right, as a commander you have to deal with bullshit and you suck it up.
>>560272Well they weren't wrong about leaving though
>>560272I agree. But I think we are starting to be outvoted here. I just hope that we can figure our collective shits out in the coming week.
>>560276Hogwash. We could have had friendlies against another school or just done more training.
> Give Griselda a stern talking to.“Griselda. Look at me.” She looks over at you, throwing her pencil onto the desk. “Griselda, Tankery is supposed to be fun. None of this is fun at all. I know you and your sister have your differences. And I know that deep down, it does hurt you that maybe you realize you can't live up to your sister's image.” You place your hand on your heart. “Now, let me apologize for suggesting this in the first place. Maybe this wasn't as great of an idea as I thought. But that doesn't mean we can let ourselves rot and die in these holes we bury for ourselves. Tomorrow, we got to apologize to Orange Pekoe and Rozaliya for letting them down, then we move onto the fair. We got to make the best of it.”Griselda leans back in her seat, folding her arms. “You know.” You blink. “You sound exactly like Tessa, right before the semi-finals, trying to comfort me after we had another horrible day in the tournament.”“If you think I'm going to up and leave you just because of this, you're wrong.” You step up closer to her. “It might not be fun, but I'm staying here.”“And why stay if it's not fun then?” asks Griselda. “You're dealing with a little sister who can't look past her own sister, I'm not even a fucking great commander anyway, we're not rolling with the greatest tanks like Kursk or Zhou or Heinlein or even Gertrude's lineup!” She smashes her fist into the desk. “And I have to scrape every fucking penny just to keep our tanks running! Guess what, Ellie! That's not fucking fun at all! If anything, it's just a whole load of work, it's stress, it's hard! That's why half my crew left me, that's why nobody respects anyway! It's just too fucking hard! So why stay at all!?” she yells to you.…You place your hands on your hips. “Griselda.” She blinks, surprised at her sudden rage. She sniffles a little, apparently meaning to apologize, but you stop her. “Nothing special in life ever came out of anything easy.” She blinks again, wiping her face a bit. “The sweat, the tears, all that we put into Tankery. That is what makes it great. And it can make you great too, if you're willing to tough it out.”Griselda sees you offer your hand to her. “... how did I get a friend like you, Ellie?” She takes it, standing up. “Alright, I see your point. If-... if you and the rest of the team are willing to give me a chance, Ellie. I won't let you down. I promise.”You smile a little. “Alright. Are you okay?”[1/2]
>>560301Could she have arranged it? Would she?Regardless even if we didn't do this. This problem is a big problem with her and would have hinder the team sooner or later.
>>560103In this match she let her ego get the better of her, but the majority of the time she does listen to us, though. If anything, she's perhaps a bit TOO reliant on her officers. The main problem she has as a commander is that she doesn't seem to trust HERSELF with command since the incident last year. She's kind of half-assing it out of fear of failure, which is in turn causing failure.Instead of exhibition matches between the sisters, what we really need to do is lock them in a room together and not let them out until they get this shit resolved.
>>560069>Give Griselda a stern talking to>Comfort GrisThis issue isn't settled but we shouldn't twist the knife
>>560316[2/2]She nods, taking a deep breath. “I'm good.” She sighs deeply. “I'm good.” She rubs a tear out of her eye. “Tomorrow, I'll apologize to the team for letting them down.”“Great.” You look at your watch a bit, then bite your lip. “I uh... should go. It's getting late.”“Right.” Griselda nods, pacing around her tent. As you leave however. “Wait, Ellie.” You turn around, looking to her. “Ellie. Thank you so much for sticking it out with me.” She smiles brightly. “You're the best.”You nod. “Just lead us, we'll follow.” She nods back, giving you a thumbs up.And with that, you leave her tent. Tomorrow's another day. And hopefully what you said will stick with Griselda.You hope to God it does.
>>560272I agree on that point, we need walk a fine line between not letting Griselda get away with her bullshit while at the same time not pushing her too hard and risk either of us saying things we can't take back later.
>>560323Yes? Shit I'm sure she suggested the possibility.
>>560329Thanks for the fun, boss. G'night.
That's it for tonight. Thank you all for reading. Shout-out to the anon building an Oliver miniature IRL. We should be good for next week but I'll update later on the situation.Follow at: https://twitter.com/GermanSchteelAsk at: http://germanschteel.tumblr.com/Book Tumbles: http://germanschteelbookblog.tumblr.com/See you next time.Though, if you guys want, you can dump questions in here and I'll answer them over the week before the next session. Might as well take advantage of /qst/'s slowness.
>>560340Citation needed. But regardless the post is done. And I hope this time it does stick.
>>560329Well I'd say that went great! Only thing to do now is wait and see if it sticks or not.
>>560345That was a great final post GS. And a good thread. I sincerely hope that we can help her out of the pit a little. Just let her see that it can be fun at least...I will update the kill sheet with exhibition kills later.
>>560345Night Boss, thanks for running! Here's hoping Griselda can get her shit together before anyone tries something desperate.
>>560345Thanks for running Schteel, any other upgrades I should add to the pastebin other than Dalia getting a Retuned Engine and Upgraded Suspension?
>>560345Was the horseshoe alright, Schteel? DID IT MAKE IT?!
>>560345See you next time!
>>560367I'll tell you in the morning, I'm headed to bed now cuz work in the morning.>>560369It's the only reason Serafina survived for so long.
not enough twisting of the knife imo but it's a fair compromise. I suppose
>>560362Any chance ok keeping it separate between official and not kills?
>>560369>>560373> Killed their senpais then diedIs that really good luck?
>>560377Yeah, he splits his between exhibition and league matches. I need to decide whether my pastebin will count only official kills as it does currently or include exhibition matches like this though.
>>560373Blessed be thy name>>560380Sometimes you just gotta highlander a bitch, ya know?
>>560377Yeah. Its already in the current version. It has the Ellie vs Serafina battle. So it will take little effort to add them.
>>560387> That lone infantrymanBeing in anything other than a Mech really sucks in the Battletech universe.
Still sad no free tank from BTFO of Gertrude.
Schteel, got a question. Er, any chance we could take ride to Japan with the teacups? I'd like take care of a slight obsession and this is the first step towards it. Claim it as official business.
>>560485Idk, we might risk Iris being seduced by all that tea and politeness.
>>560503No need to bring Iris. Just Elodie and Griselda as a maybe. We're only making one purchase. A big one but it will be worth it.Oooh yes.
>>560519What purchase if you don't mind my asking?
>>560533Black forest has some rare tanks. I hope they have a particular tank that I've had my eye on for a while now.
>>560561Rare German tanks huh. Panther Ausf. F with the Schmalturm maybe?
>>560561Certainly not any of E-series because beside E-100 none is buildNot Maus because we can't afford itLowe? See first pointI guess its Schmalturm for Panther?
>>560596The E-100 was only partially constructed. Its hull and most of its suspension was in place but the rest was still either on the drawing board or never got built.
>>560594But we already have a Panther chasis, but if they provide the turret for it, I'm down. I wouldn't mind a regular Tiger.
>>560609Didn't Perrine pilot an E-100?
>>560596Could also be going for an Elefant...though that'd cost us a tonne surely
>>560612Maybe? Can't remember if it was a Maus or E-100 that they'd Frankensteined into some horrific abomination for their Unlimited team. In ITL and now NATO she drove/drives a Churchill AVRE I think.
It's like none of you know me. Well you don't but I thought my particular form of insanity, dare I say obsession? would have been obvious.
>>560625The Sturer Emil is another possibility along with the old Maximum Dick.
>>560625Judging how Bellwall in LA2 can get an Elefant/Ferdinand quite easily (with a little extortion), seems its not that rare.>>560630oooh, guessing games.Can you give something to narrow it a bit? >>560638In that case it would be a nice haul i think.
I guess a setting question is how prevalent are reproduction tanks? I vaguely remember that being a thing. I realize how crazy expensive it'd be but maybe in the future.
>>560651too overkill, I wouldn't mind a Tiger or maybe a STUG IV
>>560656Probably depends on the tank/quality. I imagine repro Shermans and T-34s get churned out like crazy because they're relatively simple, highly upgradable and versatile.
>>560660He said rare though, I imagine the Tiger's actually pretty popular with richer schools. That's one that probably has a few reproduction companies based around it if only because it's a Tiger rather than any great merit. Plus I cannot imagine KM ever selling us one of theirs. The StuG IV is rare but we could just upgrade our Pz IV into if we wanted to be silly. We really already have an abundance of TDs.
Looking at Panzer Tract, seems there are actually several Waffentrager actually build for trial, and one have something resemble turret.
>>560650It is not big. It is not fast. It is not loud. It is not grand.It is not all that special at all, especially in this sport.But it will make Elodie more happy than any other tank.
>>560688Oh god please no. Seriously it looks like it's about to tip over when it has its turret fully traversed to the rear.
>>560680Captured Sherman Fireflies?
>>560694Can you stop being a cryptic cunt and just tell us?
>>560699Then why go to KM? Why not just get normal Fireflies. >>560694But the only German tanks that made their crew happy during WW2 were StuGs, Panzer IIIs and IVs and we've already got those (or could in the case of the StuG).
>>560695Well.... not with extra caution...>>560694Are we still talking about German tank?
>>560707While meeting the criteria of not being big, grand, loud or fast at least.
Is it that captured B1?
>>560707i ran out of rare tanks the anon suggested wanted.
I just want a wirbel. Or an ost. Give those boys a piece of my mind.
>>560720....in that case we only need to pimp Oliver a bit.
>>560720I guess we could always get a Kugelblitz if we wanna fork out a bit more to get an AA Panther.
>>560720>>560728Why not get a Sherman and make it a Skink?
>>560720Like 100 Wirbelwinds were made, and another 50 or so Ostwinds. That's about as rare as a Challenger, which seem relatively common. I don't think we'd have to go all the way to Japan to get one. There's also a lot of much easier solutions. Like just buying a halftrack and sticking quad .50s on it, use that if they raid us. >>560728We could never mutilate Oliver like that. To give a tank the wonder of being a Cruiser with a Meteor engine and then throw it back into the muck of a reasonable amount of horsepower and an AA turret. Disgusting.
And I still think we should be going for British tanks. Get a Valentine, or hell, even an Excelsior
>>560742> British tanksHell yeah> Valentine or ExcelsiorEh, let's not. Britain's successes during the war were mainly in the Crusader, Cromwell, Comet, Challenger and Churchills, the Matilda II was good for its time but honestly kind of obsolete compared to most of what gets fielded in Tankery. The Valentine suffers many of the flaws of the Matilda but trades armour protection for reliability and slightly more upgrade potential. But condmening anyone to actually crewing the thing is cruel. It's tiny even by British standards and working a 6 pounder or god forbid the 75mm within its turret is the stuff of nightmares.
>>560739They would be rare in senshado compared to other tanks because who in he'll would want them? Other than suppressive and anti lights there's no point to them.
>>560739fair point on Oliver.Though if we only want to show the boys we meant business, i suggest to BRRRRT them....oh wait, we are broke.
>>560759Get the Ram or the Grizzly, maybe a seteniel
>>560731On second thought, seeing as only 5 were ever produced, we'd just be better off getting other PzIV based SPAA platforms.
>>560759Valentine is a unique tank(for LGA) that with a bit of experience could have a great crew behind it.The Matilda also isn't a terrible tank per se. Just doesn't work for late war, which is what the rich schools will be runningWhat about an Achilles?
>>560766Personally, i rather get another Cromwell/Centaur, or even a Comet to accompany our Oliver. He deserved some Cruiser companion.
>>560766I'm an Australian and the Sentinel's a mess. It was a good effort for the first tank ever produced in the nation but it's chronically underpowered, overdesigned in odd areas and a nightmare to actually crew. The Ram's meh, Grizzlies are slightly better M4A1s, which is good. But yeah I'm with >>560775 I want more Cromwells, a Challenger etc.
>>560780I'm kind of meh on more Cromwells unless it's a different variant entirely. Didn't they upgrade the Setentiel overtime.
Could we upgrade Oliver to a Charioteer?Its a post-war design, but all the stuff for it comes from during the war (20 lber, Cromwell chassis etc.)
>>560780A Challenger or Avenger sounds nice. I am partial to Avenger because the turret looked less bulky but eh, both are fine.>>560790I thought 20pounder is post-war?
I must be one of the only Anon's that doesn't hate the flyboys bombing runs. Its shit like that we need to do to make the insanity fun...though the ability to strike back more often could make it more fun...Though maybe skills day can help invigorate some fire. Who knows?
>>560800I don't mind their bombing run but i want to coordinate our Anti-air machine guns.
>>560797Ah, right you are. Never mind then
>>560785They upgraded it a bit, but never beyond the scope of its core issues and it just became increasingly out of date as they did. It's armour while formidable for an early/mid war design, was poor by late war, it still had a small crew compartment with poor ergonomics and while the 17 pounder version had an enlarged turret it was still too small to operate well especially with such a large gun in it and again poorly laid out for the crew. >>560790The 20 pounder's post war, so no. >>560797Challenger's better for our purposes if you ask me, more armour, the late models have an extra inch on the front, while the Avenger has a lower profile.
>>560807what about the profile of the Seteniel, it proven its worth in the original LGA?
>>560802True. Then we can all have a laugh as we paint each other. At this point I just want Gris-Gris to see the fun again.
>>560818It's profile? I mean, it's about the same size as a Sherman I think. I actually think the Naval Studies Merchant team only claimed 3 or 4 kills in the whole ITL tournament actually. Hardly proven considering they were with Trude since pretty early on. It's not the worst tank but it's deeply, deeply flawed and many people forget that when they see "17 pounder" next to the AC4.
>>560818For one historian, Sentinel layout is one of the worst.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUqBMC5-HPIMileage may vary tho.
>>560837Chieftain's kind of the worst case, as the guy's like 6'5" so most tanks are cramped for him at best, but it does illustrate the point pretty well.
>>560835I really need to stop saying actually twice in sentences. The more I think about not doing it the more it happens.
>>560849Yeah, soon after posting that i realize maybe the girls fits more to the turret.Still, 16 minute mark is one reason to carefully think for another sentinel purchase.We don't want boys to catcalling us.
>>560863They'll all be too confused by their whyboners to do any catcalling.
>>560824When Schteel gave the option for the boys to stop the bombardment, I declared they should keep going. It's all in the name of fun and shenanigans.
What happened to the Girls und Panzer BlackJack quest threads, about a year ago?Did he die or something?
>>560893 and gives us more time and fun with jeep jockey
>>560897He hasn't updated in eons and even when did he was glacial.
>>560928At least nothing of value was lost.
>>560897Last I remember he had a schedule change at his job and that was the end of it.Still think it's an odd thing how the first two GuP quests were the two longest lasting ones.
>>560931>>560928you know its begin standing on slippery slope when the MC forget a fact that he already says awhile ago.
Cataloging anon here. Just got home, but too tired to do it today. It will be posted tomorrow. May we hope to run a special episode of "How Griselda Got Her Groove Back" soon.Also, next thread should also be a celebratory day for Ellie. The Girls, barring Gris-Gris, don't know she was promoted yet. Either that or it hasn't clicked.
>>560950That shit happens all the time in quests. It died because of competition and being slow and extremely convoluted. Did we even get to Anzio?I am looking forward to girls und titan though. Assuming decu keeps shit together anyway.
>>560950I just think he missed the point of a GuP quest, with stuff like getting a Pershing out the gate, the main character being a guy, US Tankery being a 1v1 sport etc. Admittedly I didn't read all that much of it, just stumbled into a few threads back in 2013ish, thought it wasn't very good and discounted it. Unfortunately I mistakenly lumped LGA 1 in with it and missed out on participating in that quest consequently.
>>560928He quit writing it.
>>560345Here's a question, does Dadpool know about Kitten and Trude being romantically involved? Can't remember if it ever came up in LGA 1, not sure if he'd be caught completely off guard or utterly unsurprised.
>>561034Never came up. And I don't remember her being gay for puss
>>561055>Trude>Not gayPick one.
>>561034There's a point where Trude's covered in sleeping girls at home and dadpool's comment is "yep, you're my daughter."
>>561330Wasn't that at thanksgiving though, when Trude was just casually lewd with Kitten rather than actually an item?I think this is the most I've ever posted in a single thread on 4chan.
Here is the updated kill count, Ulanova was the star, but Ellie, Iris, Serafina and Daliat got on the board.Congrats to Dalia on her first kill across all matches.Some positives to be had.
>>561034Dadpool was actually quite the hit with the ladies when he was in High School so he wasn't entirely surprised when Gertrude (and by extension Griselda) was a hit with the ladies too.Also hi everybody, what's the good word.
>>562201So far so good, still wonder if we can snag a tank somewhere.Also what is the development on finding the missing tanks and the repair coming along?Also what upgrades did our teammates haves.
>>562297Griselda has enlisted the help of Kathy Wheeler to find the remaining tanks, which should go smoothly. As for the repairs, with money flowing in from the fairs and from the extra publicity, GrisGris will have enough money to have all the remaining tanks repaired by the end of the week in time for Hugo Gernsback.As for upgrades:> The Junior Historians have attached sideskirts to their Panzer III, along with adding an AA Mounted MG42 onto the cupola.> The Poles have had the engine modified to have WAR EMERGENCY POWER along with removing any limiters or speed governors the Pershing's poor engine may have. On top of that, AA Mounted M2.> Naval Studies Rescue have added a snorkel to their IS-2m, along with improving the suspension, a spotlamp, automated fire extinguishers, and adding a Dshka AA mount.> The Automotive Fan Club have improved the suspension on their Hellcat, along with adding WAR EMERGENCY POWER, and removing any speed governors.> The other crews have not yet modified their tanks, they're still figuring things out.
>>562323If Griselda managed to win, what would have been the repercussions?Will the M36B1 Jackson or the Strv 42/m be repaired anytime sooner in case we managed to pick up a crew or two during the week?If not how will they pick and or train in the meantime?
>>562201The word is good. I'll be looking forward to a lighter less intense session next week. Can't wait to see what skills challenges you put the teams through. Should be good fun.
>>562323Wouldn't their Panzer III become a Ausf M at this point?
>>5623731. Not unless Oleg grows four more arms and legs and can split himself in half. The Automotive Club (and Fan Club) aren't familiar enough with other tanks either to be of too meaningful help either.2. As for picking up and training, it'll be by manuals that one can rent at the library.>>562399Their Panzer III still utilizes the 5cm KwK 38 L/42, which marks it as a J until the Panzer III is equipped with the later KwK 39 L/60 and/or a snorkel and some deep wading exhaust.
>>562416Isn't it possible for them to train at least in driving or loading by for example like the M36B1, borrow Griselda's tank for driving,anf firing the 90mm shell using the Poles' gun?
>>562425Perhaps, but Griselda and her crew as skeleton as it is still need to use it.Though Griselda is trying to invest in a virtual reality tank-sim to train with. It's expensive but she thinks in the long run it'll save a lot of money.
>>562441How will that will work when each tank has their own ergonomics and control schemes?
>>562458It's not for training in any specific tank, it's for training in the very basic function of a tank (though drivers might need more attention).
>>562462Don't some of their functions slightly differs?
>>562470Again, it's not for training in specific tanks, just for training in the basic function of how a tank works and is supposed to function. The idea is that once you have a general idea of how tanks work, the learning of the basic quirks of other tanks will come much quicker.
>>562462What are the chances that Jeep Jockey would run AA for us if we get a Skink or Werbelwind?All we'd need is a driver (Miss McPherson?) They can hang out during training and the when the boys show up its all SURPRISE MUTHAFUCKAS!
>>562476How do these VR simulation works?
>>562482You underestimate how determined Skycraft boys are when it comes to bringing down targets. AA fire is just something that's challenging to them, not something that'll directly ward them away.Skycraft features a lot of "body" contact which means boys will ram, crash, and dive into each other just for the chance to score a kill.In short, maybe.>>562484VR goggles and the hulk of a Panzer IV's interior (though the Ford Motor Company is trying to get a Sherman variant through). Up to five people running through a program which simulates basic combat exercises. VR gloves as well handle touch and the handling of simulated shells and equipment and controls.
>>562514Does it simulate the weight of the shell? and as for Skycraft, can we finally coordinate our AA mounts to actually set up a proper defense?
>>562520Seeing as its VR, no, they haven't figured out the weight simulation part yet.And yeah, probably.
>>562525So do we supplement it with loading and unloading their estimated shells? on our tanks?
>>562525Does Skycraft follow the same rules as Senshado with regards to limitations to vehicles used etc?
>>562538Matches are fought between teams of anywhere between 10 to 50 planes (so 50 vs 50 at max). As for the regulation of vehicles, the cutoff date for eligible vehicles is somewhere in the area of 1948.However, being that WWII jets are very expensive, most stick to prop-driven planes. And unlike Tankery, there aren't really any regulations on WHAT kind of plane that can be used, it just has to fly. It doesn't even to be specifically armed with anything.
>>562553Werent Jets also limited by their fuel consumption or only slightly faster then high grade prop planes?
>>562609Mostly fuel consumption, but jets were in most cases blindingly fast (in fact, too fast to really adequetely dogfight with prop planes at the time, sticking mostly with the boom-and-zoom philosophy of only flying in straight lines).At least, that's how I remember it. I'd need to do some reviewing.
>>562613What prevents on flight crashers?
>>562638Nothing. Armored compartments and good old carbon coating usually solve everything.
>>562646and in air collusions? What about if they land in the ocean
>>562666Armored compartments and good old carbon coating.Though pilots are expected to bail out and parachute to safety (whereupon the traditional buzzing of the unhorsed occurs.)As for ocean landings, most teams keep a team of mechanics on stand by with boats ready to assist.
>>562323Are the sideskirts on the Panzer III on the sides of the hull or is it a full Schurzen kit (sides and rear of turret as well)?
>>562675Has there been cases of Paracutes being cut by prop planes or shot by accident during a dogfight?
>>562684Nope. Skycraft may be a very brutal sport but there are limits. As for shot by accidents, the ammunition works similarly to NATO rounds where the ammunition is designed to disintegrate if it detects something it shouldn't be hitting in its path (for example, people).
>>562696How can it tell? I mean early planes and parachutes used similar material?So wouldn't NATO rounds disintergrate due to thinking it may be hitting something it isn't supposed to?
>>562707I said similar, not exactly.
>>562712So speciality made Parachutes and safety gear?
>>562399>>562416It also needs the 20mm Standoff Plates on the Front Hull and Turret that got added in the Ausf. L version, unless GS wants to count those as part of the Schurzen kit.
>>562717Basically, yes.>>562724I might count those as part of applique armor kits or whatever.
>>562609God help the one who decides to pilot the Komet. The sheer amount of horror stories relating to it. Things like combuston on launch due to poorly sealed fuel tanks, combustion on landing due to there being no real way of slowing down, causing fuel tank to get damaged; or one pilot suffocating from fumes.
>>562726Well, they've currently got a Light Applique Kit, should I add it to them to its current armour profile? It's 20mm of spaced armour on the Upper Plate and Mantlet/Turret Front.
>>562736Yeah, go ahead.I'm so lazy today, I swear, I shouldn't be making decisions like these but whatever.
>>562740Happens to the best of us, we can always undo stuff if you change your mind anyway.
Okiedoke, pastebin's updated with the new upgrades and armour values where necessary, same link as in the OP. I have not made changes to top speeds for stuff like WEP or Removed Governors because I really have no idea how much effect they'd have on these particular tanks. The GAF used in the Pershing was limited to 25-600rpm for a hp of 500-525 but if you unlimited it it could rev to 3600 at the max (which seems like a great way to violently disassemble your engine). Crews did do this, but perhaps understandably none of them bothered to note exactly how much faster it went or how much horsepower the higher rpm generated.
>>562784Couldn't you ask German for their top speeds when he is able to?
>>561360I'm pretty sure Dadpool was pretty sure on that. You don't regularly sing someone who's just your friend to sleep with You Are My Sunshine.
>>562818Thanks, I'm actually enjoying maintaining this pastebin for whatever reason. It's also made me do reading about tanks I otherwise wouldn't be that interested in, like the Pershing, JT and SU-100. That said it's grown pretty bloated and I think my next project will be to cut it down to a more digestable size (ie, not 5800 words)>>562845He's always welcome to volunteer it, but I didn't want to put him on the spot about it, especially if he's feeling pretty lazy today. I'd rather do a bit of research, come back with a few ballpark figures at least and then narrow things down from there. That way it's not so much a chore for him to figure out etc.
>>562784The work you do is appreciated as always.I know the pain about archiving like this getting out of hand. I do it enough in other quests. Keep up the good work.
>>562977Thanks for the kind words anon, I'll probably edit down the current one and update it later this week.
>>563171Can't wait to see it. Thanks for all you do.
>>563197> PoliteAnytime, this is just part of how I enjoy the quest.Any plans for MGL or Starship Idols this week?
>>563219Starship Idols this week for sure, just wondering if I'm fitting to run it tomorrow or Wednesday.I still need to write motherfucking songs. oh boy
>>563225Awesome, looking forward to it though work's looking like it'll get busy over the next couple days so I not be able to post as much. Even if the songs are terrible, it'll probably be funny or at least appropriate given how underfunded and half-arsed the Idols project is.
>>563225Star Wars ending when/
>>563225It better have lots of HAM and CHEESE.But in all honesty, if Gloryhammer can make songs with ridiculous lyrics work (i.e. Crystal Laser Battleaxe), you can probably do it.
>>563266I think the ship has sailed on properly ending Star Wars: Fortune Hunter but maybe we'll see if we get more time. I can't run FH now since I got work and I'm already running three Quests to boot.>>563268We'll see. I'm no Alan Menken but if this were a movie, I'd definitely want Alan Menken.
>>563284That is a shame, I wanted to see Handmaiden finally resolve her issues.
>>563313It is a shame but oh well, we move on.Imperial Inquisitor Quest may have time to run though hopefully whenever Observer gets time.
>>563331So is fortune hunter on the same situation as merchant quest.Or is there a chance to see it resolved once you finished space idols or bomber magical girl?
>>563364I'm never going back to Poor Trader Quest.We'll see what happens though.
>>563390Was it really that bad. Heard about it from LGA
>>563406I'd rather not talk about it. I think all that's needed to be said has already been said.
>>563412Fair enough. Though how is Star Ship Trooper Idol quest? It sounds like a weird combination.
>>563462It's pretty great, blends the book's and films' very different takes quite well, and has a bit of fun cheesy stuff while also being kind of grim behind that veneer. Our MC is a war hero who is comically alcoholic and has a bit of a complex over being cute, until you realise that those are probably the result of severe PTSD. Would recommend.
>>563512We haven't tried to hit on our girls? I think i liked the concept though i'm a bit weary on the overly cute girls doing cute things to each other.
>>563536Nah, the LT's a bit too broken, or maybe not broken enough for that I think. I get what you mean, but the higher stakes and grimmer setting mean that CGDCT is more like a refreshing palette cleanser/keeps things from getting too depressing. Especially as at least so far its kind of taken a backseat to the LT's efforts as production staff.
>>563558then i'll give it a shot.
>>563284On the topic of your older quests, one thing I've noticed after going back and reading old ones is that they tended to have more of a 'soundtrack' than we see in LGA 2. LGA 1 particularly really thrived on its folk/bluegrass tunes and stuff like that crazy dream with the muses playing Will the Circle Be Unbroken was excellent. Is there any reason particular reason this has become less of a part of your quests? Will we see (or rather, hear) more music in the quest now that we have the not!Keions crew?
>>563997Honestly, it's mostly because I've just gotten a bit lazier. I do write my Quests to a soundtrack, but I just don't really share it.As for diagetic music, I've been meaning to try and insert more into LGA2, and by extension Starship Idols. Haven't found good places for them yet though.
>>564009Fair enough, it is effort expended for often little visible effect (people rarely comment on it, though I think most appreciate it). Well there's always the opportunity for some impromptu concerts while we're camping out now. Just gotta jury rig us a couple of the tanks' motors to act as generators.
>>564067FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT TO PARTY
>>564083We can even do For Those About to Rock with actual cannons! Subquest: "Get fined for repeated noise complaints" here we come!
>>564108Anyway, diagetic music will probably be more of a thing once the wackier schools come into play. J. Walter Christie especially is very fond of blasting music not just as they work, but as they tank too.Anyway I must sleep, so night night anon.
>>564114Okiedoke, catchya later Schteel.
Not sure if anyone's still in here but I condensed some shit in the pastebin, did some reformatting and removed the formations/tactics section as it was superfluous. Linkerydoo if you couldn't be arsed to check the OP: http://pastebin.com/bUU2v0z8
>>578866Final update in this thread before tonight/tomorrow's LGA 2 thread. Ruined all my work cutting down the pastebin by adding details for potential conversions at the very bottom of the thread so anons can survey a bit more of what they'll entail if we pick them up.