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Welcome to Banished Quest!
You take the role of a young mage labeled a criminal by his people and cast out into the wider world. In the last thread you bought food for your cloak monster, slit your own throat, read a book, reached the City of Thieves, became a prophet, and met the Sheikh.

It is currently the 5th of Yuddha, in the year 936 NH.

Character Sheet:
http://pastebin.com/8wLGz3HQ
Inventory:
http://pastebin.com/9mxDQn7N
Companions:
http://pastebin.com/tWc3Zjje
Spellbook:
http://pastebin.com/Tu1sVEnQ
Runic Library:
http://pastebin.com/7zQt9XLy
Current Missions:
http://pastebin.com/rzD5PPsU

Dice:
http://pastebin.com/nhswziq6
Magic:
http://pastebin.com/aYPzn0aU
http://pastebin.com/2iHKTQTS
http://pastebin.com/Hu8SUUyL
Combat:
http://pastebin.com/e1peu2ih
http://pastebin.com/1niidZEa
Enchanting:
http://pastebin.com/jUQKQLLx
Fluff:
http://pastebin.com/ydKwNLba
http://pastebin.com/sijmZSSf
http://pastebin.com/UygnkCBe
http://pastebin.com/gR0sgiFu
http://pastebin.com/ibi8j7Md
http://pastebin.com/q8rQUjzS

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Notes:
Using names or trips in this quest is heavily discouraged. While it is impossible for me to prevent you from doing so, I ask that you not. I will also not count any votes made while using names or trips.
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“What do you mean, don't trust anyone wearing yellow? Like, take Mortia's robes for example,” Profectus gestures to your human companion, and more specifically to the rich golden coloration of her silken robes. “Would they qualify as yellow, thus labeling her untrustworthy?”

Your gracious host considers a now very uncomfortable Mortia at length. “Yes, yes I suppose they would. You'll want to either trade those out for something less ostentatious, or hide them away before you enter the jungle proper. Otherwise you'll probably be chased out of any logging camp you come across.

“I feel the need to really convey how important this is. If you come across anyone wearing a yellow garment of any sort, even if it's merely a ribbon in their hair or a sash about their waist you must treat them with absolute disdain. It doesn't matter if they present themselves as a lost child, a beautiful woman, or an old friend it is imperative that you flee immediately whatever area you encountered them in. Do not attack them, make no attempt to kill or beat them. You cannot ward them off. Running away is the only proven method of escaping their wrath, and the consequence of failing to do so is invariably death.”

Mortia cuts in at this point, skepticism evident in her tone. “Yellow isn't exactly an uncommon dye. You can derive it from any number of flowers, herbs, roots, or trees. Thus it would stand to reason that in any primitive society, yellow would be one of those dyes readily available for the use in coloring clothes. I guess, my question is how are we to tell whether someone wearing yellow is truly this 'herald', or if they're a native inhabitant of the jungle?”

“Allow me to put it this way, we've cut at the furthest extent of our logging operations a hundred miles into the jungle.” The Sheikh accepts a ornately carved silver mug of rich coffee in the eastern style from a passing servant, cradling it in his lap. “We have never, in ninety years of working, living, and settling the border lands, encountered a native. If they exist, they're surely dwelling hundreds if not thousands of miles further inland. Encountering natives should be very far down on your list of concerns, for now.”

He takes a long draught of coffee, wiping his mouth upon his sleeve when he's finished. “That being said, I would feel it safe to make the assumption that if there truly are natives then they will be well aware of the creatures in yellow and thus swear off dyes of that color. Either that, or they will reveal themselves to be the ones responsible for all the attacks we've suffered over the years.”

>Ask the Sheikh something else. (Write-in)
>Thank the Sheikh for his advice and his hospitality, then excuse yourself.
>Request the Sheikh's permission to stay for the night, you dislike the idea of traveling the jungle at night.
>Write-in
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>>384841
>Thank the Sheikh for his advice and his hospitality, then excuse yourself.
JUNGLE RIGHT MEOW
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>>384841
>Request the Sheikh's permission to stay for the night, you dislike the idea of traveling the jungle at night.

We could do some reading or meditation.
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>>384841
>>Thank the Sheikh for his advice and his hospitality, then excuse yourself.
Move to the magical realm and start getting gud
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>>384841
>Thank the Sheikh for his advice and his hospitality, then excuse yourself.
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>>384841
>>384841
>Thank the Sheikh for his advice and his hospitality, then excuse yourself.
we got a jungle to burn down and a road to make.
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>>384841
Soma would gain muscles like Chrys be a difficult change and the penalities we got from GM meditation apply to Shaping arts?
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>>384852
>>384876
>>384883
>>384898

>Ayo nigga I'mma bounce.


>>384874
>Ey man let a nigga crash for the night?

>>384911
Gaining Chryssa Strength would be Difficult or Very Difficult, but the GM penalty would not apply.
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>>384841
>>Thank the Sheikh for his advice and his hospitality, then excuse yourself.
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>>384841
Thank and go wave our dick in a yellow garbed faggots face
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NOICE
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>yo breh, you see yellow, you best run the fuck away

Calling it now, we see yellow (and we will, because obvious plot hook) and Mik will try to befriend, enslave, or otherwise steal from it

Worst case, we burn it down, but we won't ever run despite (or maybe because) being told to run
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>>384982
Yes of course. Did you expect to act any other way?
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>>384982
>Worst case, we burn it down, but we won't ever run despite (or maybe because) being told to run

Remember when we asked Mahana about the nature crown and he told us putting it on was a terrible idea? Then we put it on literally seconds later? That was a good time.
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>>384982
the problem with being told to run is that we are 2 GM vatis, so a regular person telling us to run away is not a reliable indicator of difficulty.
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>>384982
>Mik is told to not put on the crown
>puts it on not even 3 seconds later
Can you expect anything else?
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If these people shape-shift though we should capture one and then perform a bunch of experiments on them in our realm.
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>>384997
To add on that. When we get around to it, I will vote for interacting with it more. I'm curious as to what they are.
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WHEN WE GONNA MEET HASTUR?
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>>385010
Anybody who is not a normal person should not be brought into our personal realm.
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Also, I love how p much every GIS for the king in yellow gives art that would fit BQ/Elaudia

>eh yo, dis nigga ain't got no face and he pretty squirmy with them tentacles, you sure this is a good idea Mikkle
>nah I'm pretty sure he bad news and has no soul but look at that shit, he better at fleshcrafting than me, bet he has a few tips
>I'm pretty sure I can bring us back if he eats our bodies or souls, stop being such a pussy Prof
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>>384916
Now that I think of it huskcasting Nature magic should allow us to reshape reality like we can with our personal realm.
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>>385052
>Mikhael he has NO EYES, his hands are all fucked up, he won't talk to us, literally everything he is wearing is yellow, he's fucking GLOWING yellow Mik please Mik what are we doing for fucks sake why are we following him we were explicitly told not to interact with things in yellow
>yeah but I think it knows runes I don't I mean look at that thing it's holding
>and we were told to avoid people in yellow, not things
>you need to stop being so judgemental about appearance Darzi, I mean really
>Dux I think this creature may be radioactive, its presence is actively harmful for living beings such as yourself
>Fulvia I don't even know what that means, stop breaking out random Rhynian terminology
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>>385081
Are you retarded? Mik already knows what radiation is and avoids it.
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>>385081
>>385088
Mik can probably purify corrupted vys now. If not, he could still manipulate it away from himself and his companions.
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does elaudian!mik wear yellow?
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>>385092
He actually can't purify corrupt vys but he could in a limited way manipulate it. Corrupted vys is not easy to deal with.
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What sort of changed do you think that will have happened once we come back from the jungle?
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>>385123
Everyone dead.
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>>385088
>>385092
>>385103
Just having fun with greentext anyways bruh

>>385093
Nope.
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>>385131
>no yellow on him

sure as hell doesn't sound like a Mik thing to do, not wearing yellow in a jungle where yellow is indicative of bad things
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>>385148
>>385131
wait a minute, there is yellow on him. im blind af. on the shoulder pads there are stripes of yellow there
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>>385148
Keep in mind anon. Yellow is dangerous to the loggers trying to colonize the Elaudia. We are also on the very outskirts. It is likely that the yellow faction is of some disgruntled spirit hostile to mortal intrusion.
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Max Vys: 41
Grandmaster Rank Nature
Vatis Rank Water
Expert Rank Earth

Metamagic, Effects, & Techniques:
-Weapon Channeling
Pretty interesting that she has all that max vys with only 1 meta.
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>>385181
All thanks to soma flailing around trying to make our companions relevant.
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“I think that will more or less conclude our business then, I thank you for your frank and unambiguous advice.” Via the brooches, you wordlessly urge Darzi to sit up. It's only with immense reluctance that she does so. You think she might have been on the cusp of dozing off. Either way once you're no longer confined to the cushions, you rise and bow at the waist to the Sheikh. “I've grown so used to riddles and half-truths that I've learned to appreciate clear and unequivocal counsel.”

Kalidas stands as well, mirroring your gesture once he's climbed to his feet. “It was an honor meeting you, Mikhael, and though I doubt the day will come to pass considering the suicidal nature of your mission I do hope to see you again one day. Preferably returning triumphant, having learned whatever it is you seek to learn.”

Your companions, as well as the human mercenary who led you here, follow you into the hallway just beyond the Sheikh's chambers. Heliodoro acts as your guide through the twisting corridors, allowing you time to think on what you've learned. It sounds as if the jungle is an exceptionally dangerous place come nightfall, with a tendency to play with the minds and the senses of those who travel its shaded paths. It may be wise to remain safely in the confines of your private realm, rather than trek through the jungle on foot after dark.

On the other hand, you admit more than mild curiosity as to the nature of these 'heralds of misfortune', and the mysterious body doubles that the Sheikh mentioned. The latter actually reminds of an ancient legend regarding the moments immediately preceding death. You've read in text supplied by your Master that among the early tribes of your ancestors it was commonly held that when a person was about to die, they'd glimpse themselves watching events unfold out of the corner of their eye. Sometimes with a beautiful woman said to be the embodiment of Pani at their side. Of course, having died, you can say with some certainty that you did not see Pani, nor a copy of yourself standing in the corner watching you.

Staying in your realm rather than traveling through the night would permit you more time to rest, meditate, and read; however, it would also prevent you from making any significant progress into the jungle. You're not yet aware of just how far you are from the temple or ruin, or wherever it is the Triarchs' artifact is stored, but delaying another day may ruin your chances of reaching it in time. Especially taking into account that you'll probably cover no more than fifteen miles a day in the dense jungles of Elaudia, if that.

(1/2)
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You're drawn from your contemplation when Heliodoro stops before a doorway, standing aside and pulling it open to permit you passage. “You should be able to find your way back to the entrance from here, Maharishi.” He bows low, and the clear deference he shows you draws some attention from the well dressed denizens of the city's upper reaches. “If there is anything, anything at all, which I may assist you with, you need but name the task.”

>Ask him if he could lead you to a market, you want to see about buying a few last minute supplies.
>See if he has any recommendations for a tailor. You want to see about buying clothes more suited to the jungle.
>What you really need, and what your companions would appreciate, is a sturdy pair of boots. Ask about corcdwainers.
>You've got more than enough food, water, and fresh meat to last you the journey, but ask him if he could recommend somewhere to buy mounts. Even if they will be of questionable usefulness.
>Thank him for his help getting you an audience with the Sheikh, and dismiss him. You'll be retreating to your realm for the rest of the evening.
>As much as you might like to rest and relax, you've only got eight days left and an unknown amount of ground to cover. Set off into the jungle.
>Write-in
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>>385196
>Teleport to the magical realm to git gud
>give Fulvia all our history books
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>>385181
Well, she has 21 vys based solely upon her skills in magic and her knowledge of effects/metas.
The remaining 20 vys is the result of various rituals undergone in her youth to enhance her reserves and her resistance to alchemical concoctions, as well as reading books and experimenting with potions.
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>>385196
>See if he has any recommendations for a tailor. You want to see about buying clothes more suited to the jungle.
>>What you really need, and what your companions would appreciate, is a sturdy pair of boots. Ask about corcdwainers.
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>>385196
>>385204
Can we ask the Triarchs how far the ruin is?
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>>385196
He probably knows a good place to get a hair cut as well. It's about time Mik did something about his hippy hair.
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>>385215
Indeed, asking about barber would be a valid course of action.
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>>385196
>Ask him if he could lead you to a market, you want to see about buying a few last minute supplies.
>See if he has any recommendations for a tailor. You want to see about buying clothes more suited to the jungle.

Market and tailor
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Go into the fucking jungle already.
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>>385215
>>385222
>Not reducing hair length by meditating on the shaping arts then burning our scalp off
What a waste of a good opportunity
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>>385225
What supplies do you even want? We already have everything we need
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>>385213

They told us that we are sure to reach it within a few days of entering the jungle if I remember correctly. They were certain we could find it without trouble.
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>>385204
>rituals

ohh, did someone say rituals? i do love me some magical rituals. can we do some rituals sempai?
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>>385235

We have to replace the yellow garments we have and shopping is fun.
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>>385215
Why should Mik care what some ooga boggas think about his hair?
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>>385242
Wear armor over them and Mortia is the only one with yellow clothes.
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>>385196
>As much as you might like to rest and relax, you've only got eight days left and an unknown amount of ground to cover. Set off into the jungle.

Screw the tailors, we can just go naked
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>>385247
Short hair is just more practical.
Plus I want to see how a barber reacts to our horns.
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>>385252

But shopping is fun.
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>>385257
>wasting time at a barber
>not quickly cutting it with a sword or magic
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>>385258
lol fag
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>>385196
>>Ask him if he could lead you to a market, you want to see about buying a few last minute supplies.
>>See if he has any recommendations for a tailor. You want to see about buying clothes more suited to the jungle.
>>What you really need, and what your companions would appreciate, is a sturdy pair of boots. Ask about corcdwainers.
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>>385196
>As much as you might like to rest and relax, you've only got eight days left and an unknown amount of ground to cover. Set off into the jungle.
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>>385266
this desu

nature allows 360 degrees vision and earth allows more precise trimming than any razor.

also, shaping arts. we need two routine tasks to advance. hair length sounds pretty routine to me, hopefully it doesn't count as simple instead
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>>385196
>As much as you might like to rest and relax, you've only got eight days left and an unknown amount of ground to cover. Set off into the jungle.
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>>385207
>>385225
>>385275
>I need some new threads, ya dig?

>>385225
>>385275
>Can I get directions to a market?

>>385215
>Can a nigga get a haircut?

>>385207
>>385275
>Time to get some new boots.

>>385255
>>385286
>Time to get the fuck outta here

>>385203
>Time to GIT GUD

Boots, and tailors it is. I'll write those probably won't go into any real depth with the shopping. They'll both be in the same area as the market, so y'all start thinking about anything Mik needs to buy for afterwards.

ROOOOOOOOLL ME 3d10+20 (+6 from Orator, +4 from Expert Nature Vatis, +6 from Ring of Acumen, +4 from Preceptor) vs DC 27 (Base 15, +8 Circumstantial, +4 Talent)

You pretty much can't fail this, so y'know. Don't fuck up. This bartering roll will apply to both the tailor and the cordwain.
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Rolled 10, 1, 4 + 20 = 35 (3d10 + 20)

>>385302
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Rolled 6, 5, 8 + 20 = 39 (3d10 + 20)

>>385302
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Rolled 2, 1, 5 + 20 = 28 (3d6 + 20)

>>385302
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>>385293
Wasting meditations on Shaping Arts is silly when we're this close to Divine String manipulation magic and Fire grandmastery. Soma has a set number of meditations hell write a thread. Using them frivolously is dumb.
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>>385307
Not as silly as wasting time for shopping things we don't need
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>>385302
We should enchant our new clothes with sustain reinforce so that they don't fall to pieces the moment we do anything dangerous.
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>>385307
gotta read that book before the fire GM. not sure what you have in mind for string manipulation
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>>385302
>+8 Circumstantial
Maligned?
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>>385314
Divine magic research via Gate mediation. You know, the thing that let us cheat death.
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>>385319
If you mean entering the gate meditation it's something we no longer can do
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>>385303
>>385304
>>385306
>35, 39, 28 vs DC 27
>Great Success!

>>385316
Try
>Dressed like a bunch of rich assholes

Anyway, writin'.
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>>385328
I'm pretty sure the ritual is physically entering the fate. Disembodied soul ought to be a different story.
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>>385313
we also have the runes to have it repel cold and hot temperatures and have fire, dirt and blood roll off it.

the real thing I wanna get is conceal(mind+vys+soul). it's only a matter of time until we encounter something that can target those things directly due to Elaudian monsters, loads of spirits and divine headhunters.

>>385328
tattoos and the metal GM let us cheat death.
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>>385339
Either way trying to enter a thing called Surya's gate while Surya is angry at us doesn't sound like a great idea.
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>>385196
>What you really need, and what your companions would appreciate, is a sturdy pair of boots. Ask about corcdwainers.
But seriously, can't we just create clothes with the create meta magic?
Then let's get out of here, though I do want to do a meditation before we leave on the farmers rice crops in Nature magic. Maybe even see the effect of casting water in conjunction with nature magic into something.
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>>385351
we haven't learned the boot effect
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We really should spend the next 2 days training
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>>385351
>Maybe even see the effect of casting water in conjunction with nature magic into something
there are literally zero reasons not to cast nature in conjunction with fire, water and metal as we walk about. we know earth+nature gives earthsense. we can combine element on the run. let's just spend the 2-5 vys and add those combinations to the list and expand our capabilities.

it costs literally nothing. not even time.
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We should spend a night creating boots that will let us go sanic speed, we'd only need one pair because we could store our fagits in our closet and then whip everything out when we reach notable places
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>>385342
I think that would be a useful enchantment to consider for next time.
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>>385342
>conceal(mind+vys+soul)
That does seem like a good artifact.
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>>385386
reminder that the fast meta lets you effectively cast haste on yourself, and that a water and metal GM can negate the physical damage it causes the user pretty easily

that's in addition to its other uses, like speeding up thought, making flames spread faster, use water and metal as bullets, and so on.

>>385388
>>385394
I originally agreed with the anon who wanted it as our next tattoos but an artifact would be more useful since logic gates allow you to easily turn it on and off.

if(water+vys)then(sustain*(conceal(mind+vys+soul)))

and then add if(fire+vys)then(revert(sustain*))

with the asterisked sustain runes being the same rune

maybe there's a better way to activate and deactivate a rune but our library is pretty limited desu
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>>385148
to be fair, Elaudian Mik sounds like a !nofun super optimized Mik so he probably does a lot less pointlessly randumb stuff as well.
iirc our Mik is an all rounder with personal strength+++, artifacts+++, politics+, companions+++ or something, right?
While Elaudian Mik is personal strength+++++, artifacts++ and no points in anything else or something.

seems sorta hard to imagine someone in our weight class who's better than we are at everything how'd we end up all the power of friendship shonen anyways?
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>>385415
I think storing the artifact in the cloak is a better alternative for turning it off
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>>385425
Serious question. Would Ricky lose it then?
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>>385421
elaudian mik might not have the breadth of knowledge we do though.
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>>385431
if you also add a rune to hide the artifact itself. he probably has something resembling regular vision. probably.

>>385425
I like a challenge. and feel like our artifacts are too simple compared to all that complex shit we find. but yeah, I guess an on/off switch would be little more than an embellishment if you can just take it off.

what should it be? kinda tired of rings here desu
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>>385453
Bracelet? Pendant?
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>>385421
Well, we haven't invested that heavily in our companions in terms of power yet. Just general tutoring and in artifacts.

>>385332
Using Elaudia Mik as a standard, how would the party dare in combat against him? Could our companions last for more than a few rounds in combat against a foe of his caliber?
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>>385453
A piercing would be small and simple, we have the magnifying lenses to make the small runes for it. I would just like to hear from soma whether their are any common piercings among Samjan first though. Also we can use shaping magic alteration to advance ourselves in it by adding the holes of it into our self image, that way they don't instantly heal closed with our water magic.
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>>385460
could be a hair band. doesn't seem like Soma gives enough of a shit to put cutting our hair to a vote, so we might as well tie it so it doesn't get in our face.

pretty sure he's never had long hair, otherwise he wouldn't underestimate how annoying long hair gets when you don't cut it for a while
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We must give the crown to Mortia while in the jungle. That +6 to nature will be useful to make sure nothing ambushes us.
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>>385508
I was actually thinking of giving her the dragon staff, though that would be equally useful to us.
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>>385516
We could give her both
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>>385516
The dragon staff gives no bonus to nature GMs though.
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>>385463
our companions are top tier though and we have a super balanced party. We might take a few casualties but I don't think we'd lose, barring retarded decisions. They all have a pretty high starting point, and teaching them stuff only makes them more freakishly strong. From a meta perspective, I legit don't see them going down in direct combat to anything outside of enemy hero units (like the other versions of Mik) political manouevering is a different story I guess

Like serious mode Darzi is nigh invulnerable to most things in her armor, and she's a beast when it comes to physical combat (moreso when/if we actually get her to really git gud) and her learning to be a better caster only enhances what she already has. Same deal with Prof and Chryssa, who are genetic freaks that have been modified to be optimized for combat, Mortia has her spirit artifact fuckery (or whatever it is) and...actually I have no idea what Fulvia's current body is capable of. Skull kid is lol

Given how serious prof nearly pulled off a TPK while high, I imagine that even if he couldn't pull 1v1 vs Elaudian Mik (though he might easily be able to if he was sneaky about it/had favourable conditions) any one of our combat optimized party members would probably be enough of a handful to distract Elaudia!mik enough for another party member to gank him in the back

>>385488
>piercings
>sure why not, let's just go full freakish spectacle
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>>385524
>1/2 cost nature magic
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Also a reminder considering we lost our Rhynian Handgun trying to be cool, we have several firearms from another dimension in our cloak that can be useful. Particularly if we enchant it somehow to produce its own ammo, among other things.
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>>385488
Piercings are universally seen as degenerate by Samjan. It's only accepted if you are a whore
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>>385536
didn't we use the rhynian handgun last thread to get everyones attention?
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>>385529
>Like serious mode Darzi is nigh invulnerable to most things in her armor, and she's a beast when it comes to physical combat (moreso when/if we actually get her to really git gud) a
If we make her the spear we proposed a few threads ago she'd be a serious monster. Like that spear gives +10 to attack and +6 to fire magic and +4 to dodge iirc
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>>385544
Yes, but then I think we destroyed it while doing so because of the events of our metal GM meditation.
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>>385550
We got very close to destroying it but it wasn't destroyed.
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>>385550
what
our GM meditation happened before the events of last thread
we still have the Rhynian officer's pistol
>Fortunately, you have at your disposal a plethora of methods by which to draw the attention of a crowd. Drawing your Rhynian pistol from the confines of your cloak, you channel a few vys into the cracked barrel. Steam begins to billow from the muzzle, a baleful light gleaming through the fractures in the steel. Raising the pistol to the air, you're more than a little worried that it's going to explode in your hand, but when you squeeze down both triggers the thunderous roar which emits from the twin barrels does not also carry with it the shards of shrapnel which would have surely resulted from the pistol malfunctioning.

granted it's probably not long for this world so we might want to do something about fixing it
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>>385559
We have another.
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Elaudian Mik, assuming he won't be friendly, I mean we'll probably bond and be all he told you to me?! Well he told me to kill you! Yeah fuck those cunts. Either way wouldn't be a problem mik can just go "Hey Chrysss, that guy is a meanie." And she can nullify magic and put arrows through his ass
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>>385545
there are so many things we could do to git gud/help our companions git gud though. I saved a list some anon posted a few threads ago about shit we could do and it makes me feel bad

>transmute flesh into pseudometal/control electromagnetism to create armor of electricity
>enchant shields/armor to electrify things that strike them
>enchant shields/armor to repel unmarked (ie enemy) metal/weapons
>vys/body/soul concealment gear
>investigate Prof's enchanted tattoo
>make a vacuum cleaner
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>>385583
>>385545
>All told, the bonuses would probably somewhere around (+14 Attack, +8 Fire, +4 Dodge, Spell Magnification).
Even better than what I remember.
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>>385583
>>investigate Prof's enchanted tattoo
>implying soma even remembers that

>>385553
reminder that Fulvia used metal to repair her old body, that her old body is just an artifact, and that we can do the same to our own artifacts because metal GM.

it could be water+metal which is not a problem for us since we can combine elements on the go so it won't even require a session to learn the technique
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Post in 30 min
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>>385559
I mean that is why it was so damaged in the first place, because we channeled our husk threw it during the water spirit battle.
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stuff that costs us next to no time in-quest:

>ask fulvia about repairing the handnuke
>combine nature's perception aspect with elements as we walk around
>contact the stooges about their deal with the other mik
>ask profectus about his tattoos from forever ago
>use shaping arts to remember all we know about dhatu armor
>use the sight on the crown to find where in elaudia the spirits it was linked to are

betting 50 bucks anon will not vote to do any of these after the next post because of his ADHD
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>>385642
>use shaping arts to remember what happened when we went through the gate
+1 to the list
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>>385648
sure, but that might be involved enough to require sitting down for a second

it was a pretty intense experience
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>>385642
im just going to copy and paste this for the next vote.
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We must remember to give Fulvia our history books whenever we get downtime.
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>>385661
we might as well take any read books our party has and give them new ones we aren't reading
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>>385642
I'll vote for all of those next post just for you, Anon~
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>>385669
-Metamagic Instructions: Ranged [Mik:Learned, Darzi:Learned]
-Metamagic Instructions: Hidden [Mik:Learned, Darzi:Learned]
Metamagic Instructions: Delay (Unread)
Metamagic Instructions: Beam (Unread)
All these for Profectus since he needs that extra vys for his GM
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>>385622
you lied to me, anon.
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>>385739
I meant that Soma will begin writing his post in 30 minutes, my bad.
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>>385744
yeah, 30 minutes from now
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So I got busy and haven't been able to check in since maybe 3 or 4 sessions past the move to qst, currently going through the archive. Is soma any closer to finishing or has everyone been sidetracked by sidequests again?
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>>385790
>to finishing
Finishing what exactly?
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>>385790
not sure what you mean by finishing but some majorly cool shit has happened and now we are finally back on track
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“Actually, there are a few things you could do for me.” You've been putting off getting new shoes long enough, and the last thing you want is for the soles to fall out of your current pair in the middle of a march through the jungle. You could probably also go for some clothing that isn't quite so ostentatious, much as you might like your fine robes they seem ill-suited for the jungle. “Where might we find a cordwain or a tailor? We'll want to properly equip ourselves for a trip through the jungle.”

Heliodoro rights himself, pointing through the door. “You'll follow the route tracing around the edge of the building, until you see a big set of double doors. They should be open at this hour, they're silver, you would have a hard time missing them.” Now that he mentions it, you do recall seeing a pair of silver doors, though you didn't really pay much attention to what lay beyond them. “That's the market, and you should be able to find what you need there.”

“In that case, I suppose this marks the end of our brief journey together.” You clasp the mercenary by the forearm, and he does the same to you. “Until next time, whenever that may be.”

You part ways with the human and follow the directions you were given, arriving shortly before the grand silver gates. As promised they're swung wide, and you see neat, orderly rows of market stalls arranged throughout the chamber within. However, as you pass beyond the gates your eyes are not drawn to the goods on offer, nor the storefronts lining the periphery of the market. They're drawn upwards, to the enormous throbbing artifact which sits high above. It exudes so much vys that in the area immediately surrounding what you can only assume is the city's heart there's a visible haze of shifting blue and purple.

A thick layer of living crystal has formed around the 'veins' of the city which meet with the top of the heart, and a thick layer of vegetation coats everything else in the the space high above. The veins attach the heart to the ceiling, and when you channel vys you can see them running through the walls in the form of great confluences of vys. You wonder passively if the vys within is actually a liquid, and what properties such a substance might have.

Still, you're here for a reason. That reason is shopping. You'd like to finish this as quickly and easily as possible. Thus you first voyager into a shop distinguished from the others by a woven sandal drawn upon a simple wooden sign propped up at the entrance. Much to your surprise, a quick glance around the store reveals that the cordwainer doesn't have any boots on offer. Rather most of the shoes available seem to be leather sandals with thick soles, through which metal spikes have been driven. Some have spikes only at the bottom of the shoe, and others have spikes hanging off practically every length of leather.
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>>385790
>thinking that BQ will ever end
>implying
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A white-haired old woman comes hobbling out of the back room. She's bent over double and missing an eye, as well as a few of her fingers, but seems cheerful enough. Upon hearing that you intend to travel through Elaudia, she clucks her tongue and shuffles towards a wall of shoes woven very, very tightly around the foot itself but loosening as the straps climb up the leg. You presume the tighter weave around the foot is to offer some measure of protection without risking the onset of rot due to marching with a boot full of stagnant water.

Darzi decides she'll be just fine in her armor, and that's more or less a decision you agree with. It was designed by Elaudians, presumably it will be well suited for that environment. You, on the other hand, opt to buy a pair, as do Mortia and Profectus. Fulvia, for obvious reasons, does not see the point of it. Chryssa feels confident that the suit she wears as the base layer of her strange conglomerate armor will serve to keep her well protected.

It takes perhaps a half hour of adjustment to make sure the sandals are fitted, but once they are you find them fairly comfortable. Not quite as supportive as the boots you were wearing before, and the nails sticking out of the sole will take some getting used to, but you imagine they'll be invaluable when trying to traverse the difficult terrain of Elaudia. Normally you'd be worried about the leather rotting, but the cordwain assures you it's been treated to prevent precisely that. How they managed this, the woman refuses to say.

You pay the woman, initially she asked for two gold from each of you, but you manage to get her down to a mere four silver, and she cuts two silver off your price in exchange for the boots you'd been wearing. Profectus tucks the sandals away in his satchel, while you and Mortia take the opportunity to put them on.

Next on your shopping list is clothing. You find a tailor's shop a short walk from the cordwainer's, but find the local dress on offer rather intuitive. You'd seen men wearing a sort of loose trouser which the tailor, a dark-haired man with a heavy beard and scarred limbs, insist is no more than a strip of rectangular silk wrapped about the waist. The only difference between a well made article of clothing and a very cheap one seems to be the amount of decoration it sports and the number of colors it's dyed in.

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>>385790
Wellll... we did get a little distracted at times, but we made a decent amount of progress in self-improvement. There were some very...interesting... happenings. We're right about to head into the Elaudian jungle during this thread
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After being shown the method by which the garment is tied, which apparently involves nothing more than a rope tied about the waist and not much else underneath, you end up purchasing one of these 'dhotar' in solid black. You'd also planned on buying a sort of tightly fitted robe which reached to the knee, but when you mentioned you were traveling into Elaudia the older man snatched it from you, muttering all the while about 'fortune-seekers'. Apparently the robe is only worn as a sort of court dress, it would be dreadfully hot if one were walking through the jungle.

Stripped of your robes and your tunic, in only a cloak and a glorified loincloth, the tailor insist you're more than equipped for the dangers of Elaudia. You find that hard to believe, and upon your insistence he offers a very light sort of sleeveless vest, again in black silk. It would only barely serve as a lining underneath your armor, but it's better than nothing. Actually, when you catch a glimpse of yourself in a length of polished bronze, your current outfit sort of reminds you of the clothes you wear in your ascended form, though it's not an exact match. You're lacking the notes of blue and gold.

Of course, that can be fixed. You purchase a deep blue sash and tie it about your waist, and a turban in the same shade. You also lack the gold trim, but considering the paranoia people here seem to feel towards the color yellow that's probably a good thing. Wrapping a turban around your horns proves difficult, but you figure it after some trial and error. In the end, you'd say it's not a horrible look.

Mortia ends up deciding to just stuff her golden robes into your cloak, content to wander around in her armor for the foreseeable future. She seems more than a little uncomfortable, though you mostly attribute that to the fact the tailor revealed very openly that he wore nothing underneath the dhotar when he gave you a demonstration of how one goes about wrapping it. Again they ask you for a ridiculous sum of wealth in exchange for what are essentially a few strips of cloth with holes cut out of them. You end up shelling out a gold piece for the clothes, but that's a far more reasonable price than the eight they asked of you.

None of your companions seem in pressing need of new clothes. Profectus is confident that he can get by in his armor, or forgoing that trousers and a tunic. Fulvia doesn't really see the need for clothing to begin with other than as a method of preserving cultural mores, unsurprising considering she probably doesn't have a sense for temperature. Chryssa is entirely unwilling to trade out the thick robes she wears to cover herself for anything at all more revealing, and Darzi is content with her armor.

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They offer to fit the clothes for you, but considering pretty much everything you purchased is intended to be very loose you don't quite see the point. Thus you stride out of the shop rather comfortably, if scarcely, dressed. Now that you really bother to pay attention, it seems like nobody here wears the layered robes which are so common in the west. Open backed dresses and loose trousers seem to be the style for women, while men tend either towards those tightly fitted robes or nothing but a dhotar depending upon social class.

>Now that you're properly equipped, hit the road. You've wasted enough time as is.
>You're not going to make any real progress in the dead of night, retreat to your realm, where you can either meditate or read.
>Why meditate in your realm? Head out into the rice fields and see what you can do to ensure a good harvest, whenever they harvest rice.
>You'd really like to get a closer look a the city's heart. If nothing else, it might serve as a good focus for a meditation upon Nature magic.
>Write-in

That's not a perfect picture of the heart, but it's close enough.
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>>385808
>>Why meditate in your realm? Head out into the rice fields and see what you can do to ensure a good harvest, whenever they harvest rice.
>>You'd really like to get a closer look a the city's heart. If nothing else, it might serve as a good focus for a meditation upon Nature magic.

>going into a spooky death jungle in the middle of the night

bad idea
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>>385808
>You'd really like to get a closer look a the city's heart. If nothing else, it might serve as a good focus for a meditation upon Nature magic.
>Acquire Vys crystals for their excellent storage properties. Acquire lots.
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>>385808
>>You'd really like to get a closer look a the city's heart. If nothing else, it might serve as a good focus for a meditation upon Nature magic.
THIS BAIT IS DELICIOUS
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>>385808
>You'd really like to get a closer look a the city's heart. If nothing else, it might serve as a good focus for a meditation upon Nature magic.

Put our people in an inn or our realm
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Apparently Elaudia Mik is absolutely fucking brokenly overpowered.
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>>385808
>You'd really like to get a closer look a the city's heart. If nothing else, it might serve as a good focus for a meditation upon Nature magic.
see if we can make it a group meditation.
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>>385813
>>385808
Supporting vys crystals
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>>385808
>Why meditate in your realm? Head out into the rice fields and see what you can do to ensure a good harvest, whenever they harvest rice.
>You'd really like to get a closer look a the city's heart. If nothing else, it might serve as a good focus for a meditation upon Nature magic.
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>>385808
>>You'd really like to get a closer look a the city's heart. If nothing else, it might serve as a good focus for a meditation upon Nature magic.
though offer to transport any of our companions to our realm, and say goodnight to our son
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>>385794
>>385796
>>385798
I see. Business as usual then.
>>385804
Wait. So you fuckers are telling me that you still haven't set foot in the motherfucking jungle?
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>>385832
We are in the fucking jungle right now
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>>385832
the next namek.
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>>385808
>>Why meditate in your realm? Head out into the rice fields and see what you can do to ensure a good harvest, whenever they harvest rice.
>>You'd really like to get a closer look a the city's heart. If nothing else, it might serve as a good focus for a meditation upon Nature magic.
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>>385826
>>385821
>>385819
>>385813
>>385812
>>385830
>>385831
>>385847
>Check that glowin' shit man.

>>385830
>>385812
>>385847
>Welcome to the rice fields motherfucker.

>>385827
>>385813
>Harvest crystals

Since I did all the shopping at once, this post should come much faster.
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>>385808
>>You'd really like to get a closer look a the city's heart. If nothing else, it might serve as a good focus for a meditation upon Nature magic.
leech its vys into the seed amulet
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>>385851
where dice for meditation?
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>>385853
what could go wrong
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>>385808
>>Why meditate in your realm? Head out into the rice fields and see what you can do to ensure a good harvest, whenever they harvest rice.
messiah Mik is go
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>>385851
HOL UP SOMA MAKE IT MEDITATION ON FORMS
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>>385808
>Why meditate in your realm? Head out into the rice fields and see what you can do to ensure a good harvest, whenever they harvest rice.
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>>385862
They'll come later, Anon. Geez.
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>>385865
you know how it's meant to grow roots and shit into the guy wearing them? I propose we buy the biggest animal we find, have it wear the amulet and then leech vys into it from this hear or the paramatma or something like it.
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>>385868
>>385872
Good idea. Supporting.
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>>385872
Don't jew us out of meditation on forms
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>>385868
agreed
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>>385877
>>385876
>>385879
why though
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>>385883
>improve martial arts while doing something else at no cost
>why
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>>385808
>Why meditate in your realm? Head out into the rice fields and see what you can do to ensure a good harvest, whenever they harvest rice.
>You'd really like to get a closer look a the city's heart. If nothing else, it might serve as a good focus for a meditation upon Nature magic.
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>>385891
it seems pretty silly to do flips and thrusts in a public place like this, especially in a trance that disables contact with bystanders while focusing on something unrelated to combat
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>>385904
Why would we care about what normies think when we could be getting stronger?
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>>385908
because it would improve the quality of the story? meditating on forms right now would make zero sense IC
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>>385915
It would make complete sense IC. If someone asks what the fuck we were doing when we wake up we can explain that it's training. Mik can't be the only vatis to ever come here.
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>>385915
Nah m8. Mik would totally do it.
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>>385915
we could just make this part of the cult stuff if it really bothers plebs.
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>>385915
Mik doesn't give a shit about how he's perceived by people in public. He's gone out and looked worse than some weird martial artist before
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Actually, y'know what? Roll me a d100. I only need one.
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Rolled 99 (1d100)

>>385928
oh shit
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Rolled 44 (1d100)

>>385928
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Rolled 44 (1d100)

>>385928
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>>385928
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Rolled 77 (1d100)

>>385928
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Rolled 62 (1d100)

>>385928
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>>385932
Oh fuck I didn't actually think you'd roll it
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Rolled 52 (1d100)

>>385928
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>>385938
>>385935
>>385933
>>385932
>roll a 99 followed by 3 more dubs
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>>385932
OH SHIT
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>>385942
On a scale of not at all to directly looking at a Child how fucked are we?
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>>385947
you can feel how important this event is going to be.
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>>385932
>>385942
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
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>>385952
Like a 3/10.
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>>385942
Is this good? Bad? Soma, I'm scared
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>>385932
>>385942
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>>385956
This means it's a good thing right?
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>>385956
Meh nothing to panic about
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We will be fine. Get ready for the De-rail!
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>>385957
We got it anon.
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>>385984
Our regularly scheduled derail.
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RAILROAD
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>>385942
IS varvar back from the dead?
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JUNGLE LITERALLY FUCKING NEVER
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>>386007
This is jungle already
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>>385996
>implying he wasn't turned into the strongest Disciple in existence
>who has a bone to pick with us personally
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Portal to namek 2.0 incoming
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>>386015
Do you think namek was a different layer in reality or a whole new world?
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>>386014
>Implying he's not with his one true waifu Pani
Get the fuck out for normie
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>>386037
same layer as this one dumbass
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With your shopping concluded, your attention shifts once more towards the immense heart shedding light upon the marketplace from high above. You consider briefly the possibility of playing up the whole benevolent wise man role by meditating out in the fields to insure the locals enjoy a plentiful harvest, but how could you possibly ignore an artifact like this? How many opportunities will you have to examine the beating heart of a living city?

It takes some wandering, but eventually you find a winding pathway along the edge of the market. It's sheltered from the rest of the market, lit with lanterns and lined with what seem to be small apartments. You pass hundreds of doors during your ascent, and just as many hallways leading deeper into the complex. The vast majority of the city's population must live in these cramped little apartments. The conditions remind you almost of a beehive.

As you've come to expect, people avoid you in the hallway. One man goes so far as to press himself flush against the wall when he sees you climbing the gently sloping ramp. You can't really tell how many circuits you make of the chamber below, but each one is shorter than the last and involves running across fewer and fewer people. It seems those areas closes to the 'ground floor' were the best maintained, while these rooms higher up are mostly either abandoned or dilapidated.

You're able to feel the heart long before you can see it. It's like pins and needles digging into your flesh, a common sensation whenever standing in an area absolutely saturated with vys. It's here, after nearly ten minutes of walking through empty hallways, that you come across a strange sight. A little girl sits upon a bench. She's dressed finely, in a manner you'd typically associate with high nobility. Her dress is ornamented with little golden bells around the hems and dyed in various shades of red. She has the most striking blue eyes, an exceptionally rare trait among Samjan, but it does not seem to be the blue within blue of a Spice addict's.

She kicks her feet absentmindedly over the edge of the bench, her hand resting upon the knee of an enormous figure you can only describe as primordial. It's taller than you even seated as it is, forced to hunch over in the hallway to avoid scraping its head against the ceiling. Its body is entirely grey, and seems to be made of some sort of semi-ethereal substance akin to that which composes Ricky's tentacles. Instead of hair, it seems to wear a cloak of ever-shifting, impermanent black about it shoulders. Globs of the cloak are constantly splitting off and reforming with the main body.

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The only note of color on the creature's body is long red mask it wears. Light spills forth from the holes in the face, and it's split down the center by a long gash. Carvings upon its wooden surface bring to mind the sort of dizzying patterns you saw within the Enchantress' private realm inlaid upon the floor. For a time you stand bewitched, until the beast looks at you. The longer you hold its gaze, the more you feel like your mind is tearing itself apart at the seams. You're forced to avert your gaze to the little girl, who smiles up at you kindly.

The girl looks up to the towering figure beside her, apparently undisturbed as it shifts its attention from you to her. “Why does he get horns and I don't? I want horns!”

Darzi's voice draws you out of the daze you'd found yourself in. You hadn't quite noticed, but you stand locked in place. Try as you might, you can't seem to move your legs. “Who are you talking to, little girl?”

In response, the child offers only a confused stare and hugs the creatures formless arm a little tighter. "Can't you see?"

>Promise her that if she tries hard, and meditates diligently, one day she may have horns like you.
>Ask the girl what she's doing so far from the city proper.
>Tell your companions via the brooches about the figure, and tell them not to make any sudden moves.
>You've got just the solution to this little issue. Fire. Burn the witch.
>Write-in
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>>386062
>>Tell your companions via the brooches about the figure, and tell them not to make any sudden moves.
>Promise her that if she tries hard, and meditates diligently, one day she may have horns like you.
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>>386062
>Tell your companions via the brooches about the figure, and tell them not to make any sudden moves.
>Start channeling Metal Magic to reinforce our minds.
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>>386062
>>Tell your companions via the brooches about the figure, and tell them not to make any sudden moves.
Then
>Promise her that if she tries hard, and meditates diligently, one day she may have horns like you.
>Ask the girl what she's doing so far from the city proper.
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>>386062
>>Promise her that if she tries hard, and meditates diligently, one day she may have horns like you.
>use metal magic to reinforce the mind of everyone in the group
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>>386062
>>Promise her that if she tries hard, and meditates diligently, one day she may have horns like you.
>>Ask the girl what she's doing so far from the city proper.
>>Tell your companions via the brooches about the figure, and tell them not to make any sudden moves.
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>>386062
>>Promise her that if she tries hard, and meditates diligently, one day she may have horns like you.
>>Ask the girl what she's doing so far from the city proper.
>>Tell your companions via the brooches about the figure, and tell them not to make any sudden moves.
METAL Up IN THiS BITCH
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>>386062
>>Promise her that if she tries hard, and meditates diligently, one day she may have horns like you.
>>Ask the girl what she's doing so far from the city proper.
>>Tell your companions via the brooches about the figure, and tell them not to make any sudden moves.
reinforce our minds
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>>386062
>Promise her that if she tries hard, and meditates diligently, one day she may have horns like you.
>use metal magic to reinforce the mind of everyone in the group
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>>386062
>Ask the girl what she's doing so far from the city proper.
>Tell your companions via the brooches about the figure, and tell them not to make any sudden moves.
Sup Soma, and Soma's imouto
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>>386062

>Tell your companions via the brooches about the figure, and tell them not to make any sudden moves.
>Start channeling Metal Magic to reinforce our minds.
>Promise her that if she tries hard, and meditates diligently, one day she may have horns like you.
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>>386062
>>Promise her that if she tries hard, and meditates diligently, one day she may have horns like you.
>>Ask the girl what she's doing so far from the city proper.

Hello creepy littler girl
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>>386062
>>>Promise her that if she tries hard, and meditates diligently, one day she may have horns like you.

and channel some vys into your balls you goddamn pansy
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>>386062
>Promise her that if she tries hard, and meditates diligently, one day she may have horns like you.
>Tell your companions via the brooches about the figure, and tell them not to make any sudden moves.

Wait, if she can see him and not go crazy she might be something else entirely don't trust her appearance. Be cautious.
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>>386082
she is wearing some yellow
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>>386062
>Promise her that if she tries hard, and meditates diligently, one day she may have horns like you.
>Tell your companions via the brooches about the figure, and tell them not to make any sudden moves.
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we should introduce ricky to them.
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>>386076
>>386072
>>386073
>>386071
>>386070
>>386069
>>386068
>>386064
>>386077
>>386078
>>386082
>If you're a good little Vatis, one day you might have horns too!

>>386082
>>386076
>>386075
>>386072
>>386071
>>386070
>>386068
>>386066
>>386064
>Ayo niggas there be a monster.

>>386077
>>386075
>>386072
>>386071
>>386070
>>386068
>What are you doing so far from home?

>>386076
>>386073
>>386072
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>>386069
>>386066
>Reinforce your mind.

Writin' for
>Reinforce mind
>Inform companions
>Just gotta meditate lil' nigga
>What're you doin' way up here?
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>>386062
>>Tell your companions via the brooches about the figure, and tell them not to make any sudden moves.
>Write-in
Ask Chryssa if she can see it.
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>>386062
>>386082
How about some nature magic to read her thoughts?
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>>386085
I mean, where ever really going to listen to that advice?
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>>386089
seconded

in fact ask ricky what that thing is, I bet he knows
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do you think we can bullshit our way out of this, since we have golden tattoos?
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>>386094

And go crazy? No thanks. Lets try visual confirmation first.
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>>386096
I wonder if he'll give us a drawing again
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>>386089
>>386096
It's probably one of Ricky's poker buddies.
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>>386099
The Tattoos got Nerfed. We are wearing the Ring of Acumen though.
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>>386007
Shhh.... Just sit back and let Namek take you.
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>>386105
i was talking about their color not strength.
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>>386105
someone give me the patch notes on the tattoos please. Need to see pre-nerf version and post-nerf to know the difference.
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>>386114
They used to give +8 towards resisting intrusions on the mind. Now they give +2. It's largely made up by the Ring of Acumen giving +4 against intrusion.
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>>386007
Jungle literally fucking already last thread.
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>>386125
Jungle kinda
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>>386125
>still using windows 7
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>>386129
Civilization still kinda
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>>386132
>Using Windows Botnet
You probably use google chrome faggot.
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>>386125
>fly over some trees
>land in a city
>no jungle encounters
no. you failed for three threads and now you're failing in the fourth to get us into elaudia proper.
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>>386139
I'm a Mozy Firefox thank you very much.
Plebs use chrome.
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>>386091
Can we reinforce our mind in a AOE centered around us to encompass our companions too?
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>>386155
They cant see it so they don't need heir minds reinforced. Except maybe Chrys.
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

for things.
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We should think of some sort of faery fire teqnique to mark him to our companions if worse comes to worse, maybe just illusion fire magic while we close in with marshela ve.
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>>386195
Our companions' inability to see the entity is concerning. We should create artifacts with the Reveal rune as soon as possible. They can't fight what they can't see.

> -Reveal: This rune is primarily useful when it's affecting another rune. Reveal has a number of economic uses in that when paired with the appropriate base runes it can detect ores, sources of fresh water, and even magical artifacts. It's also useful for detecting runic arrays or objects hidden via the 'Conceal' rune. Its effects when used as a base rune vary depending upon the level of reality one resides in. In Base Reality, it parts the veil between the mortal realm and the realm of spirits.
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You focus your will, channeling in the form of Metal magic. You feel it flow inwards towards your core only to disperse outwards along the length of the threads which presently compose your mind. You're aware of them only distantly, but suddenly it's no longer quite so difficult to move your legs. You take a few careful steps forward, unconcerned by the stare of the creature by the girl's side.

{Am I the only one seeing this creature seated beside her?} Your thoughts reach out through the brooches to brush against those of your companions.{Because I really hope that's not the case.}

Chryssa's response carries with it no small amount of concern.{I too can perceive the beast looming at her side. Her sanity is more fragmented than any I have come across before. Even you, at your very worst, possessed a better grip upon reality than this child. I cannot imagine the trials which she has faced thus far in her short life.}

{Wait, is there more to the shadow than I'm aware of?} Profectus stands next to you, focused clearly upon the creature but apparently unaware of what it is. {I just sort of see the outline of something large seated on the bench.}

Darzi steps a little closer to you, maintaining a polite smile despite the fact that her thoughts have flown into a panic. {Am I the only one that only perceives a little girl sitting a bench?}

{No, I too have no idea what they're talking about.} Mortia seems unconvinced that you're serious judging solely upon the vague snatches of emotion coloring of her thoughts. {It's a some noble's child. If this is some sort of joke I'm not in on, I'm unimpressed.}

“Growing horns like mine is no small task.” Your voice cuts through the silence which has filled the hallway. “I received them upon achieving grandmastery within the elemental school of Metal. I've also heard they can be attained through methods which fall under the broad category of Fire magic, but I've yet to confirm these rumors. Though I've the creeping suspicion your friend may offer his assistance in some manner, you'll surely have many nights of meditation and study ahead of you.”

The girl perks up, distancing herself slightly from the figure by her side which continues to stare holes into your head. “My Daddy used to meditate with me! He doesn't anymore though, I haven't seen him in a long time. He said he was going to go into the jungle and that Yama would keep me safe, but he hasn't come back yet.”

“Is that why you're sitting all the way up here with just,” You glance up towards the spirit, meeting its eye. You do not feel the same sanity rending presence as you did before, but return your attention to the girl regardless. “Yama, I suppose? Because you're waiting for your father to return?”
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>>386200
Jesus guys this is basic shit. Normies can't see void entities without a certian level of insanity.
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She shakes her head firmly. “Nope! I'm waiting here because my Momma said that if I waited here she would bring me back a treat from the market. She doesn't like it when I stray too far from the Heart.”

“How long have you been waiting for your parents to return?” Darzi ask, her tone cautious. You think you can see where she's going with this. You too have a creeping suspicion that not all is as it seems.

The girl shrinks away, clinging tighter to her guardian. At least, you assume it's a guardian. Rather than answer the question, she blurts out one of her own. “Could you teach me how to meditate to get the horns? I think they're really neat...”

>You'd be happy to teach her, later. You just want to take a look at the Heart first.
>It's a highly advanced technique, she should start off focused on simpler methods before trying to ascend.
>If Yama doesn't mind, you'd be glad to teach her the method of your ascension. Just warn her it can be dangerous.
>Write-in
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>>386207
>>It's a highly advanced technique, she should start off focused on simpler methods before trying to ascend.
But be gentle about it
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>>386207
>>If Yama doesn't mind, you'd be glad to teach her the method of your ascension. Just warn her it can be dangerous.
Sure why not
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>>386207
>>It's a highly advanced technique, she should start off focused on simpler methods before trying to ascend.
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>>386204
>Its effects when used as a base rune vary depending upon the level of reality one resides in. In Base Reality, it parts the veil between the mortal realm and the realm of spirits.

Well, this rune has the ability to allow normies to perceive entities.
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>She doesn't like it when I stray too far from the Heart
is this girl the equivalent of an oracle?
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>>386062
>Promise her that if she tries hard, and meditates diligently, one day she may have horns like you.

> Also offer her your name and ask for hers.

Kids can be rude. We're not a kid.
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>>386216
That's a terrible idea. I don't think Yama will appreciate that whatsoever.
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>>386216
You know that isn't a thing right?
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>>386207
>It's a highly advanced technique, she should start off focused on simpler methods before trying to ascend.
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>>386207
>>You'd be happy to teach her, later. You just want to take a look at the Heart first.
>>It's a highly advanced technique, she should start off focused on simpler methods before trying to ascend.
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>>386207
>>You'd be happy to teach her, later. You just want to take a look at the Heart first.
We need to be cautious here, that thing might not take kindly to trying to heal her sanity.
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>>386207
>It's a highly advanced technique, she should start off focused on simpler methods before trying to ascend.
In the meantime want to meditate with me on the nature of the heart little girl?
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>>386207
>ask her how proficient is she in her magic and what magic she's good at.
>It's a highly advanced technique, she should start off focused on simpler methods before trying to ascend.
Depending on Yama's answer Mik could give her better lessons.
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>>386207
>>>It's a highly advanced technique, she should start off focused on simpler methods before trying to ascend.

fucking

ask ricky goddammit
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>>386207
>>You'd be happy to teach her, later. You just want to take a look at the Heart first.
>>It's a highly advanced technique, she should start off focused on simpler methods before trying to ascend.
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>>386213
>>386215
>>386229
>>386231
>>386234
>>386240
>>386246
>>386247
>You're not yet ready.

>>386214
>If Yama doesn't mind...

>>386231
>>386232
>>386234
>>386247
>You just want to take a quick peak at the heart first.

I'll write for not yet ready and wanting to take a look at the heart.
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>not offering to teach the little girl
Yall have never encountered the Fae have you?
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>>386207
>It's a highly advanced technique, she should start off focused on simpler methods before trying to ascend
>Write-in

What is this Heart?
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>>386216
You mean kill her only friend?

Jesus bro, you might want to build up to that instead.

>>386207
> Tell her that there are several different ways to get horns. Your son has horns as well for instance, but he happens to be a dragon.
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>>386253
What is she going to do, stab us?
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>>386251
> It's dangerous and you might not come back, and then Yama would be left all alone

Something like that, let her down easy. Or to pray on her crippling insecurities.
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>>386253
> Thinking it's the little girl that's real and the monster that's imaginary

Clearly it's the other way around. Kids probably been dead forever and the monster is her Dad who keeps this illusion of her alive.
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>>386251
Also we should probably make a shrine here, that way we can check in on this child in the future.
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>>386216
>deleting your posts
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>>386275
we could do that. note Mahana doesn't want to over extend on his territory.
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>>386278
This is probab;y the further he'd allow for an alter
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Guys

We should offer to let her stay in our realm.
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>>386283
>Mom doesn't want me to be too far from the heart
>HEY GO TO OUR PERSONAL REALM FAR AWAY FROM THE HEART.

Yeah that'll work.
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>>386285
Nigger her parents are dead.

Best to look after the poor kid however we can.
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>>386286
how about we stop putting shit on our plate? it's already overflowing with enough bullshit to put Sadik and his cart to shame
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>>386286
Not our problem
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>>386278
Since when the fuck do we do anything smart?

But we should definitely ASK the girl if she would like to have a new friend who could visit her here and then introduce her.
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>>386288
>>386289
>not wanting a shoulder loli
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>>386286
There might actually be a fucking reason she didn't want her to get too far from the heart ya dunce.

You've obviously got a brain. Use the damn thing.
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>>386283
Uhh that may be a solution, I'd feel pretty dang bad leaving a poor near insane girl alone with this spirit that's possibly the cause of it alone. Besides we need to replace the hole Aylin leaves in our heart by becoming dragon food.
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>>386251
Can we quickly check her soul when we meditate?
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>>386296
Though we need to figure out why she needs to be near the heart, if her moms still around and what the hell that thing is.
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>>386294
we already have a shoulder loli. she even came without any bullshit void crap.

>>386291
>girl protected by a void entity
>wants to bring her into a friendly spirit's realm
you goddamn moron.
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>>386301
Bitch is dragon food.
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>>386304
Are you doubting that Kadir is going to Anthus?
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>>386308
Kadirs a dogfucking little pussy.

Anthus will be Ash by the time our army crosses the mountains.
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>>386313
Phone Demetrios then.
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>>386313
The thing is, the Cat hasn't actually taken to the field. We basically quadrupled his power from when he was basically nothing, but even then he could go toe to toe with Sezhade. We also got him two kickass Vassal spirits. Basically, unless Papa Dragon takes to the field himself, Anthus can stand. Heck, that's not counting the dozens of GMs there.
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>>386301
What? No, I meant having the Cat visit her there.

Learn to parse context you goddamn moron. When someone visits you, that means they come to where you are not the other way around.

Be less of a faggot, or pay more attention before you open your cockholster.
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>>386318
>but even then he could go toe to toe with Sezhade
lolno
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>>386319
>implying that's even remotely better
fucking kill yourself
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>>386301
>void entity
it isn't in the void and it isn't attacking everything
it's probably a spirit
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>>386322
>>386251
Soma, how powerful is the Cat currently compared to a fully Ascended Mik? How powerful was he before we doubled his power, and then more than doubled his power again after we doubled it initially, essentially octupling his strength?
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>>386332
Ascended Mik could Rolfstomp the Cat like a little bitch.
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>>386332
>>386251
Oh wait, my math's bad. That's 2 by 2 by 2. We went 1 by 2 by 2.
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>>386332
>>386333
and when he eats other spirits it's not a direct doubling of this power. some of it is lost in the transition.
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>>386333
My friend, you have a very inflated opinion of Mik's power. Mik Ascended equals the Cat, not counting Vassals or Disciples.
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>>386327
Fuck off Rob.
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>>386336
Husk casting fucks up spirits. We took down that water spirit, which was actually a little more powerful than the cat, with our pistol.
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I was just thinking, var var wanted to go to pani when he died, though he was probably sent to surya..
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>>386332
divine magic cast by mortals overcomes spirit magic, hence the bonus we get against them. mik could wreck mahana's shit, especially if he gets to use his artifacts.

mahana is stronger against an army of humans than mik is though
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>>386347
>>386343
>>386333

>>386251
Do you see these Anons boss? You're letting them run around with extremely dangerous assumptions. It would be Robbing them of insight not to give them the full picture.
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>>386345
with his power level he probably could have fought all the way to her.
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“Are you sure you're ready?” You adopt a gentle tone, doing your best to avoid offending the girl. “It's very dangerous. When I sprouted my horns it was because if I didn't perform the acts that I did, I and a few of my associates would have surely died due to the destruction of the world around us. I had to repair a hole into the void and beat back an ancient creature trying to eat the fabric of reality.”

She's shrunk even further behind Yama, now peeking out from around the substance of its left arm with wide blue eyes. They really are very strange, you've seen blue eyes before but never so bright as hers. “What did you do?”

“I channeled my memories, my desires, and my fears into a portion of my soul which shields that spark of divinity inside all of us from the dangerous of the world we live in.” The spirit has drawn itself closer to you now. You can feel waves of malevolence rolling over you, an unfettered desire to drag you into an early grave. However, it remains always at arm's length. As though you were shielded from it by some invisible barrier. “In doing so, I escaped from the confines of my physical body and seized control of the fabric of reality. The experience changed me, and the horns were one of those changes. As was the color of these tattoos, they were originally red.” You trace a finger along the lines of gold covering the back of your right hand for emphasis, extending your hand so she can get a better look.

The girl reaches out and presses a finger against the runic array on your right hand. It feels like someone pressed a hot coal against your skin, as though you should be smelling your flesh cooking and feel the skin peeling from the heat. You numb the pain as best you're able with Water magic, glancing down to ensure that you are not in fact being cooked alive by the contact. You wait as she traces the design of each individual rune, never pulling away despite the existential agony you suffer.

When she draws her finger away, you're unable to contain an immense sigh of relief. You hadn't even really noticed you'd been holding your breath. It doesn't seem like she did you any harm, but briefly pulling up your sleeve, you note how the tattoos writhe across the surface of your forearm. Like snakes twisting themselves into knots. “I was just going to take a look at the Heart. Perhaps once I've finished I could teach you something simpler?”

The girl emerges a little from behind her guardian. “Okay.” She states simply. “I'll be waiting here, or maybe in my room. My family lives in room nine hundred forty four.” She hops up, taking you by the hand and leading you towards a hall. This time the contact doesn't hurt like it did before, and she leads you to hallway. It's dark, the lanterns having long since burned out. She points in the field of black before you. “It's just down there, at the end of the hall. Momma was supposed to buy oil for the lanterns but she's not back yet.”
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You feel more than see Yama poised over your shoulder. “I'll be sure to come find you if I get back and you're not here.” You offer with as kind a smile as you can muster. “My name is Mikhael by the way, of the house Abdul-Hakim” You gesture to each of your companions in turn. “These are my friends Darzi, Profectus, Chryssa, Fulvia, and Mortia.”

She releases your hand and withdraws towards her bench. The guardian is already there, staring at you. “My name is Devika, but I don't think I have a house. We just live in the one room. Promise that you'll come back and teach me about magic?”

“I promise.” You place a hand over your heart to convey the seriousness of your pledge, a ritual you still recall from childhood. She mirrors the gesture and then runs back to her guardian, hopping up onto the bench and pressing herself against the ethereal spirit's side. It seems you're free to go.

Marching quickly, you put as much distance between yourself and the girl as you're able. That was remarkably strange experience and not one you have any particular desire to repeat. Wherever you go, it feels like that guardian of hers looms over your shoulder ,watching your every step, yet when you turn to search for its red mask you find only the faces of your companions staring back at you.

Eventually you reach a doorway where a guard stands at ease with his spear leaned against his shoulder. He holds out a hand to stop you as you draw near, extending his spear to cut you off from the door he guards. “Do you have business in the Chamber of the Heart?”

>Tell him you're a Vatis and you wish to meditate in its presence.
>Ask him if he knows a little girl by the name of Devika.
>Question him regarding the nature of the heart.
>Write-in
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>>386367
>Tell him you're a Vatis and you wish to meditate in its presence.
>Ask him if he knows a little girl by the name of Devika.

>>386351
You owe Anons insight.
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>>386367
>>Tell him you're a Vatis and you wish to meditate in its presence.
>>Ask him if he knows a little girl by the name of Devika.
>>Question him regarding the nature of the heart.
In reverse order
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>>386367
>>>Tell him you're a Vatis and you wish to meditate in its presence.
>>Ask him if he knows a little girl by the name of Devika.
>>Question him regarding the nature of the heart.
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>>386347
>>386343
>>386333
Mik, sans artifacts, is about on par with the cat.

Mik, with artifacts, could probably beat the cat into submission but it wouldn't necessarily be an easy fight. Especially not now that the cat has received a huge power boost from absorbing the Water spirit.
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>>386367
>>Tell him you're a Vatis and you wish to meditate in its presence.
>>Ask him if he knows a Little Girl by the name of Devika.
>>Question him regarding the nature of the heart.
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>>386363
>When she draws her finger away, you're unable to contain an immense sigh of relief. You hadn't even really noticed you'd been holding your breath. It doesn't seem like she did you any harm, but briefly pulling up your sleeve, you note how the tattoos writhe across the surface of your forearm. Like snakes twisting themselves into knots. “
She was without a doubt trying to do something bad.
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>>386367
>>Tell him you're a Vatis and you wish to meditate in its presence.
>>Ask him if he knows a little girl by the name of Devika.
>>Question him regarding the nature of the heart.
all of the choices
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>>386367
>Tell him you're a Vatis and you wish to meditate in its presence.
>Ask him if he knows a little girl by the name of Devika.
>Question him regarding the nature of the heart.
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>>386379
I'm saddened we didn't get her to come with us to see the heart.
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>>386379
she was probably trying to rip our soul out.
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>>386367
>Ask him if he knows a little girl by the name of Devika.
>Question him regarding the nature of the heart.
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If I remember correctly the only other time the tattoo reacted like that was when we put on the crown and the 3 spirits tried to take over.
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>>386381
>>386377
>>386374
>>386372
>>386384
>>386371
>>386395
>All of the above, more or less.

Writin'
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>>386375
>>386333
>>386343
>>386347
I concede that at the time of that statement, Artifacts were not put into calculus. At the same time, fighting the cat is not something we can take lightly and victory is not certainly guaranteed, especially if he deploys his Disciples and Vassals, which he can recall at a moment's notice.

We are going into the Elaudia, where there are spirits that are his age and possibly his power. We can not bank on Husk magics and Ascension.
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Elaudia


never


ever
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>>386407
Elaudia

kinda

already
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>>386404
Don't forget we have companions too. And our companions are a whole helluva fuck ton stronger than his disciples and shit.


also Avatar State.
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>>386404
yeah you're an idiot
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>>386415
Every time I hear the phrase avatar state I become more opposed to it for some reason
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>>386435
Then you think of a name. It's just a technique.

Name don't actually mean anything.
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>>386435
probably because it sounds pretentious.
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>>386415
An infant spirit took out both Prof and Darzi with an enchanted runic trap. Spirits, with the ability to enchant on the go, pose an immense danger capable of oneshotting our team mates. Even as infants. And we're going to fight on their territory, that they've been shedding blood on for millennia.

They can't tank enchanting hits. They can't see them coming. We need to immensely improve their sensory abilities if we want any chance of them surviving.
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>>386375
Hang on, let me clarify this.
Mik, in ascended form, sans artifacts is about on par with the cat in terms of raw power at his disposal. He doesn't have nearly the same staying power though. He's sort of a two pump chump.

Mik, unascended, by channeling husk into the pistol and blasting away, could probably beat Mahana into submission assuming the pistol didn't break. The one he's using right now seems on the cusp of breaking apart, but he has a spare.

However, Mik could not both be in ascended form and use artifacts. Ascended Mik is momentarily cut off from his artifacts in exchange for the ability to freely manipulate the strings.
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>>386435
it's because the name is a really shitty one.
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>>386444
>>386440
You're supposed to be in charge of this shit. You come with a name.
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>>386435
I know what you mean, it is a terrible name.
It sounds like something a kid would come up with.
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>>386452
>>386448
>>386446
>>386442
>>386435
Rob
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>>386448
Hey, I just write stuff.
Plus, I can't come up with a name until the details are laid out. I suppose I'd probably go with something like... Embodiment of Will, or something. I don't know. Regardless, I'm going to keep calling it just a technique until shit gets set in stone.
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>>386440
>names don't mean anything

a name is an intimate thing. it gives Form and Shape to something that has none, gives it Identity to differentiate itself form everything around.

names are important.

that being said, Avatar state is a shitty name and doesn't imply what it is
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>>386472
Naming is always the last step in the design process.
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>>386444
Here's an interesting point.

>Mik, unascended, by channeling husk into the pistol and blasting away, could probably beat Mahana into submission assuming the pistol didn't break. The one he's using right now seems on the cusp of breaking apart, but he has a spare.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/330036/#p348456
If we carve a spear with the Refine Fire Array modified by Large, we'd have a weapon of legendary destructive power. For one, it'd give us +8 Fire magic bonus independent of our own bonuses and +14 to actual attack. The properties of Spirit Ivory will allow the spear to hold up to much more Husk channeling shenanigans.

The final product should be of such strength, low to moderate Husk channeling might very well shred the fabric of reality.

[00:14] <Ishiggy> jesus
[00:14] <Tpp> ok now for more absurdities
[00:14] <Tpp> What if we husk-channeled that spear Soma?
[00:14] <Ishiggy> even the the void entities natural magic resist?
[00:14] <~Soma_QM> Yeah, I mean. It's resistance not immunity.
[00:14] <Gob> Okay, let's not get too crazy.
[00:14] <Ishiggy> Liek lighting seemed to actually HELP ricky when he got zapped
[00:14] <~Soma_QM> Husk channeling probably would rip a hole in reality desu.
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>>386484
alright you nigger

That was taken out of context and you know it.
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>>386488
Really? How the fuck is it taken out of context? This is all the fucking context

[00:12] <~Soma_QM> Darzi scores a good hit on its chest with the spear as described and all her bonuses, and a successful piercing thrust.
[00:12] <~Soma_QM> That would basically just flash cook the entire thing.
[00:12] <~Soma_QM> Say you open a portal to the void.
[00:12] <Ishiggy> kek
[00:13] <Ishiggy> what
[00:13] <~Soma_QM> And a bunch of monsters come spilling out.
[00:13] <Ishiggy> How would that rip open a portal?
[00:13] <~Soma_QM> The spear wouldn't really need to hit the core itself.
[00:13] <Tpp> If we can take combat manuevers with magic that would encourage people to git gud
[00:13] <~Soma_QM> No, it's a hypothetical Ishiggy.
[00:13] <Ishiggy> oh
[00:13] <Ishiggy> I thought you were saying her thrust would rip open a portal
[00:13] <~Soma_QM> The lightning would probably do enough damage to one-shot a low-tier void entity.
[00:14] <Ishiggy> jesus
[00:14] <Tpp> ok now for more absurdities
[00:14] <Tpp> What if we husk-channeled that spear Soma?
[00:14] <Ishiggy> even the the void entities natural magic resist?
[00:14] <~Soma_QM> Yeah, I mean. It's resistance not immunity.
[00:14] <Gob> Okay, let's not get too crazy.
[00:14] <Ishiggy> Liek lighting seemed to actually HELP ricky when he got zapped
[00:14] <~Soma_QM> Husk channeling probably would rip a hole in reality desu.
[00:14] <Gob> Fucking hell.
[00:14] <Tpp> even if it's a single point Soma?
[00:15] <~Soma_QM> That was Surya's Vice desu, and Ricky is no low tier void entity.
[00:15] <Ishiggy> Yet let's keep Ascended and Avatar away from eachother for now
[00:15] <Gob> Alright
[00:15] <~Soma_QM> Trying it against an elder would probably yield similar results unless husk channeled.
[00:15] <Ishiggy> Avatar is something we can turn off at a moments notice
[00:15] <Ishiggy> Ascended isn't
[00:15] <Gob> Who's gonna tally up all this and report it to the thread anons?
[00:15] <~Soma_QM> desu, husk channeling into the spear while in the void would probably be safe.
[00:15] <Tpp> man that spear would be fucking awesome
[00:15] <Gob> I really want to see what boost Prof and Chryssa will yeild.
[00:15] <~Soma_QM> Although you'd attract servants like shit attracts flies.
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>>386491
Huh. This brings to mind a thought. We could just rip open a hole in reality with this spear and fuck off, leaving our foes to get assraped by a void incursion.
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>>386491
>>386488
Misremembered it. My b

Was remembering him talking about [00:13] <~Soma_QM> No, it's a hypothetical Ishiggy. part
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IRCabal is spilling over again
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>>386500
Here's another query. What if we skinned a disciple's Husk and shoved it into the spear like we did with the Hand Cannon?

I'm pretty sure this is how you get Spirits to cry and shit themselves.
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>>386505
treat them like the the science guys that do minmax research.
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>>386510
Better have like 12 reinforce runes on that speak. And we better have replaced most of it with Spirit Ivory.
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>>386511
nah, treat them like the cancer they are

all that is time that could be used to actually write the goddamn quest
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>>386514
All of this was done After the thread was over you mongoloid
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>>386458
I gotchu fampai
super slamjam
blaster mode
golden hyper mode
chain resonance
sage mode
pactio
battlizer
warp spasm
devil trigger
trance
reckoning mode
vajra form
dna digivolution
gold saint
black king mode
EX mode
mega evolution
not left handed
worldbreaker
limited edition
limit break
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“I'm a Vatis.” You hold out a hand and summon forth a simple illusion. It would appear to all and sundry that roots begin to sprout from the surface of your skin, forming themselves into a thick layer of wooden armor over your right hand. The guard's eyes widen as the wood ignites and fire burns its way across your hand. When the flames at last die down, your hand is exactly as it was. Of course, the guard doesn't notice that the fire left not ashes. “I wish to meditate upon the nature of the Heart, to see what insights I might glean.”

The guard pulls aside his spear, bowing his head apologetically. “By all means, I did not mean to interfere with the business of a Vatis. It's simply that I hadn't received word to expect the arrival of a man with your particular talents.” He rights himself, eyeing your friends suspiciously but ultimately turning his attention once more to you. “Were you informed of the dangers inherent in proximity to the Heart?”

There is always some degree of danger present in interactions with ancient artifacts, but you're interested in hearing what the guard has to say either way. “No, I'm afraid I wasn't told. What precautions should I take?”

“First and foremost, do not touch any of the crystals which populate the center of the room unless precautions have been taken against solidified vys.” The guard seems to have rehearsed this at some length, or just said it so many times he has it memorized. “Do not touch the liquid in the pools at the edges of the chamber. Do not breath the smoke from the vents if you can avoid doing so. Do not touch the veins of the Heart.”

Seems simple enough. “You could probably generalize that to don't touch, breathe, or drink anything that glows.” You pull open the door, and find within a cramped chamber. The walls are filled with holes crusted over with solidified vys, blue smoke drifting from within and collecting near the ceiling. As promised pools of some mysterious color-changing liquid surround the center of the room, where an enormous multifaceted gemstone rest within a curious sort of device likely intended to contain it. The glow from within is overpowering, and just standing in the doorway makes you feel like your face is going to blister, so intense is the heat roiling off the gem.

It's just as you're about to enter that an idea occurs to you. “Do you know a little girl by the name of Devika? She and her family live in room nine hundred forty four, just down the hall?”

The guard scrunches his brow, evidently confused by the question. “Not many people live in these upper reaches, sir. The Heart tends to unsettle people. Last I heard the ninth floor was pretty much abandoned, but I coulda heard wrong. Anyway, can't say I know a Devika.”

(1/2)
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You thank him for his help and then stride into the room. After the initial wave of unbearable heat passes, you actually find this place rather comforting. It feels like just being the presence of the Heart that you could accomplish anything, the power at your disposal is the power to alter the world as you please. Still, channeling a bit more Metal magic the sensation fades. As your companions filter into the room, you do the same for them. Focusing upon fortifying their minds against whatever effect this artifact has upon those who draw too near.
>Vys Pool: (32/72)

>Perform a group meditation upon Nature magic, focusing upon the Heart itself. (+16 Bonus from Companions and Circumstance)
>Meditate on Nature by running through your Forms in the presence of the Heart (+8 Bonus from Method and Circumstance.)
>Meditate using a different method. (Write-in)
>Inspect the heart closer, see if you can't harvest a bit of crystal from it.
>Write-in
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>>386539
>>Meditate on Nature by running through your Forms in the presence of the Heart (+8 Bonus from Method and Circumstance.)
We don't need the +16
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>>386539
>>Perform a group meditation upon Nature magic, focusing upon the Heart itself. (+16 Bonus from Companions and Circumstance)
I want to understand the heart
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>>386539
>Meditate on Nature by running through your Forms in the presence of the Heart (+8 Bonus from Method and Circumstance.)
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>>386539
>Perform a group meditation upon Nature magic, focusing upon the Heart itself. (+16 Bonus from Companions and Circumstance)
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>>386539
>>Perform a group meditation upon Nature magic, focusing upon the Heart itself. (+16 Bonus from Companions and Circumstance)
>>Meditate on Nature by running through your Forms in the presence of the Heart (+8 Bonus from Method and Circumstance.)
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>>386539
>Perform a group meditation upon Nature magic, focusing upon the Heart itself. (+16 Bonus from Companions and Circumstance)
You know what we want soma. Also I'm still interested in water + nature.
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>>386539
harvest some crystals and stash some blue liquid in a bottle, be getting rid of all the wine in it and cleaning it out.
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>>386539
>Meditate on Nature by running through your Forms in the presence of the Heart (+8 Bonus from Method and Circumstance.)
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>>386539
>>Perform a group meditation upon Nature magic, focusing upon the Heart itself. (+16 Bonus from Companions and Circumstance)
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>>386539
>group meditation on Forms
If that's not an option, just meditate on Forms.
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>>386539
>Meditate on Nature by running through your Forms in the presence of the Heart (+8 Bonus from Method and Circumstance.)
finally getting that last insight into marsala ve
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>>386581
Actually meditation upon Forms here won't yield an insight. It may offer a +2 or a +4 to your next attempt at advancement in Marsala Ve, stacking with your current +6, but it will not itself advance you. There's just some elements you'll need to learn from a Master which you can't learn by running through forms.
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>>386565
this please. get samples of everything. even the fluid that flows through the heart.

wear the centurion armor.
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>>386583
What about other martial arts?
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>>386578
>>386583
Then I'm changing my vote to group meditation on Nature.
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>>386588
You could probably nab an insight in the Way of Metal if you snagged a Great Success, but you'd have a Malus to the meditation.
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>>386591
Meh we can spend vys to ignore the malus or wear the crown.
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>>386551
>>386557
>>386558
>>386562
>>386570
>>386578
>Everyone hold hands and sing kumbaya.

>>386568
>>386558
>>386553
>>386546
>>386581
>Do tai chi

>>386565
>>386584
>Harvest crystals

I'll go with the group meditation. Gimme a sec to figure out bonuses n' such.
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>>386583
Fuck. we just got jew'd.
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>>386596
wait, anons don't want free solid and liquid vys samples? what the fuck is wrong with you people?
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>>386599
Just stick the entire heart in the cloak/realm. What could go wrong?
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>>386565
>>386584
Mortia would probably cream her panties at samples of this shit.
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>>386599
we're on a time table. We can come back to the heart for the samples and teach Devika when we're done with the stooges's favor.
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>>386599
I assume we'll have a chance to grab some after we meditate, I wanted to check out the heart before we risked fucking with it
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>>386599
Eh we've made Vys jelly before.
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>>386609
There is literally no reason not to, we're already here, samples wouldn't be hard to collect and we have endless void storage hanging off our back.
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ROOOOOOOOOLL ME 3d10+30 (+2 from Ring of Acumen, +2 from Shaper, +2 from Vatis, +4 from A Terrible Thing to Waste, +2 from Darzi, +2 from Profectus, +2 from Fulvia, +2 from Chryssa, +4 from Mortia, +4 from Circumstance, +4 from Preceptor) vs DC 32 (Base 30, +2 from Pushed it to the Limit)

On second though, Mik can't fail this roll. I'll roll for your companions and we'll see how it goes.
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Rolled 5, 9, 8 + 30 = 52 (3d10 + 30)

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Rolled 1, 3, 4 = 8 (3d10)

>>386627
You're not stealing our chance for another Preceptor trait
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>>386608
Bitch is already taking samples along with fulvia.
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Rolled 3, 1, 9 + 30 = 43 (3d10 + 30)

>>386627
aww shit
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Rolled 6, 1, 9 + 30 = 46 (3d10 + 30)

>>386627
come on nat 3
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>>386627
>Base 30, +2 from Pushed it to the Limit
JESUS. WE'RE GIVING THE HEART A HEART ATTACK
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>>386628
>>386632
>>386634
>52, 38, 43 vs DC 32
Wouldja look at that, it's a Great Success.
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>>386627
>+2 from ring of acumen
Nigger what the nature bonus on that is supposed to be like +8
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Rolled 9, 9, 2 = 20 (3d10)

>>386638
>>386627
come on nat 3 or nat 30! still within 10 dice rolls!
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>>386640
You don't get bonuses from an element when you're meditating to advance within that element.
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>>386638
Great success do jack shit unless its a gm Soma.
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Rolled 10, 9, 4 = 23 (3d10)

>>386638
hey, we still have 6 more rolls to go
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Rolled 4, 7, 6 = 17 (3d10)

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Rolled 5, 4, 6 = 15 (3d10)

this roll is dedicated to making a spirit ivory short sword with a solid vys core, spell amplification patterns and multiple arrays for attacking and passive bonuses

it's a sword because we have enough spears to have maha combine them into one superweapon. prof needs a superweapon of his own
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Rolled 4, 5, 4 + 30 = 43 (3d10 + 30)

>>386627
>>386654
I'd support creating a sword
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Rolled 2, 7, 6 = 15 (3d10)

this roll is dedicated to ricky's eldrazi friend doing this to darzi
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Darn. No nat 30.
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Rolled 4, 3, 3 = 10 (3d10)

>>386670
:^D
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I think I'll call it here for the night and pick up come Wednesday. I'm feeling the caffeine crash somethin' serious and I want to make sure I can do this meditation credit. There's gonna be a lot to cram in to one post.
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Rolled 5, 6, 8 = 19 (3d10)

>>386670
This 11th roll is going to be that nat 30.
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>>386675
See you Friday Soma, thanks for running
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>>386675
night night soma
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>>386675
See you Saturday.
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http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Banished%20Quest
Archive here:

Maybe next time we'll actually enter the jungle proper.
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>>385642
>>385648
>>385658
>>385661
>>385675
>>385690

reminder that we are all faggots who will never, ever, get anything done.

that includes you, Soma.
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>>386699
I was prepared to back you up on that ridiculously long list just so Soma would have to write up a 20 part post.

All you had to do was vote for it.
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>>386715
no you weren't
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>>386367
We should bring the little qt with us.
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>>386721
what could go wrong
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>>386733
I really think this is an opportunity at a new companion. I mean "little girl" spirit wielder would fit right in with us, plus she wants to be horny like us. We could become her teacher/mentor. Also Soma has given the spirit a name and cute character art, if that doesn't yell take me with you then I don't know what does.

You can't deny having Yama on our side would be more than helpful in a lot of situations. The only hard ship would be that we couldn't take Yama into our realm unless he jumps into the cloak with Ricky. Also we should consult with Ricky about Yama.
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>>386756
>consult with ricky about yama

gee anon, it would be nice to have a ring that would allow us to speak whatever the fuck language that void beings speak.

actually, having a ring that understand languages in general is an essential device for a wandering traveler
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>>386760
Yea it will be something to keep in mind for when we go into the jungle with a ton of different species.
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>>386760
Ricky's screeching is good enough. Give me one screech if I should trust this thing give me two if I should nope the fuck out of here give me three if you want a goat
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>>386756
>>386760

Yama seems like a cool guy who just wants to protect his loli. As long as he knows we want to protect loli too then there will be no problems. No need to have him speak with Ricky.
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>>386777
>ricky screeches 3 times in a row once every 20 seconds as long as mik is wearing the cloak
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servants have no emotions. therefore there is nothing wrong with enslaving one inside a freshly-gathered vys crystal.

just saying.
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>>386787
No we consult with Ricky not have it talk to Ricky. In all seriousness though I am 100% all for recruiting the qt.
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>>386804
>wanting to enslave ghost loli's imaginary friend
You are a monster. Leave Yama and Devika alone.
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>roll a 99
>soma replies with an "oh fuck"
>imaginary friend can only be seen at high levels of insanity
>loli it is attached to is most certainly way off the deep end, more than we've ever ever been
>like, game ending levels of insanity if we were playing her
>looking at it with unprotected/unreinforced mind only exacerbates the insanity;eye contact literally starts tearing your mind apart
>fucking thing doesn't like us and clearly wants us dead
>child is completely unaffected (insanity 10/10???)
>little girl clearly has endured some kind of traumatic past
>dad probably eaten by the jungle
>probably hallucinating mom
>her very touch causes immense pain; notable given how much pain Mik has endured over the course of his life (especially as a water vatis) and also how nonchalant he usually is wrt it
no seriously after our metal GM we were so fucked up we were just exposed organs and scar tissue and more of our innards were outside than inside because Zahak, bless his soul, had no idea what the fuck he was doing but still tried to keep us alive. Everything was wrong, and we didn't even notice. Then putting everything back involved our companions literally burning everything to ash and us remaking it all, and we didn't give a fuck
>her touch causes our tattoos to go berserk. Our ace in the hole 'don't fucking die' tattoos
>is supposedly squatting where nobody else is, and nobody even remembers her, but is dressed in fine noble clothing

Like I get that some anons are being facetious here but jesus christ, some anons are retarded and by the time we hit next thread it's entirely possible there'll be a full blown 'adopt the loli' movement

tl;dr
we don't know what she is. But we know she's 1) super crazy, 2) her touch on our protective soul containing tattoos causes unimaginable pain, 3) she has an imaginary guardian friend, 4) we don't know what the fuck her imaginary guardian friend is, 5) but it hates us, 6) it cannot be seen without a requisite level of insanity [much like the three stooges], 7) it seems to be made of some of the same shit as ricky, 8) looking at it when you can clearly see it induces insanity (like the thing we encountered in the void)

fuck this kid and her guardian I bet she's legit the biggest threat to ending this quest we've encountered, far moreso than the mask or helmet or any of the other fuckups we've made
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>>386817
I'm going to vote to shove her in our cloak.
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>>386817
Dude she's dead. Her touching us causes pain because she's a god damn disembodied soul that hasn't passed from this mortal coil. Our tattoos (which say contain soul) freak out and hurt us. Yama is obviously a servant of some kind based on his appearance, the fact that void entities can only be seen by those with high insanity (the reason Mortia and Darzi can't see it, and it is shadowy to prof) and his lack of communication skills. Her mom probably left ages ago and never came back, then the loli died and hasn't moved on. Recall that she didn't answer when we asked how long her mother had been gone.

She's just a poor lost soul that needs guidance and also has unparalleled not dying when killed abilities. We should take her in and try to learn how it is she remains in reality.

I'm also pretty sure Yama gets pissed when we go too close to ghost loli, and that's what the feeling of malevolence comes from. Yama seems to be tasked with guarding Devika, perhaps by her father. As long as we show that we are no threat then Yama won't have any reason to harm us.
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>>386817
Literally give her the sanity ring, which we can make more of, to keep her at functioning levels of crazy
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>>386823
My god. She is literally snail.
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>>386824
Or we could teach her to channel water magic into her divine shard. If she's going to learn to ascend that's a good next step anyways.
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shitposting aside.

the actual responsible thing to do if we want to help this little girl would be:

>1. remove all nearby void influence
yes, including Yama because we've seen void and base reality react negatively with our own eyes multiple times, for example at the great library.

>2. build a tiny shrine near the heart
there's been little evidence of spirit activity nearby, so Mahana would probably allow it. this is for fast traveling here later

>3. during the journey, figure out the runes of the sanity ring and duplicate it
we have enough modifiers for every stage involving this in our realm. we can do this while the party rests. it will probably take more than one night.

>4. travel back and give her a sanity ring
so she can start to recover now that there is no sanity-rending fear monster looming around at all times.

what would be not helping the girl:

>put her as she is currently in Mahana's realm
her touch is literally corrupting on a metaphysical level. she is also insane. thus, leaving her alone with a spirit who fears and loathes void influence is beyond stupid.

>take her with us into the murder forest
shouldn't really need to explain this.

honestly I'm only giving it this much thought because it was a 99 roll and soma was all "this is a big deal." leaving her be is totally fine.

and yes, Yama is a void entity, not only because it has all the physical signs but also because the sane-invisible thing is exclusively a void thing. it is not a spirit. this is 100% certain. ask Ricky if you don't believe me.


>>386823
>inb4 she's all that remains of the Entity
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>>386817
Quit being a pussy and adopt the loli.
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>>386823
actually being 10/10 insane might be the only reason she still exists. She believes she has to wait for her mother and thanks to her insanity that belief becomes real much like enchanting is aided by insanity.
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>>386836
If we teach her how to ascend then we can just build her a new body though. At which point she'd no longer need whatever is currently anchoring her to base reality.
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>>386828
Because it was a 99 roll it's most probably something that can be swung positively. She even has a back drop for joining us, "hey loli, we going into the jungle, maybe we see your dad maybe not whatcha got to lose?"

Honestly what could go wrong? Shit attacks us? For what reason or purpose, at the end of the encounter she holds hands with us to show us where to go and if that ain't qt then I don't know what is.
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>>386838
there's a decent chance we can create the substance a shell is made of with the create metamagic, possibly with husk casting. it isn't innately divine like the rest of the soul.

after that, we could probably create either a shell for a person without one or even create blank shells which would manifest a body if fueled by water magic and a memory.

by the way, creating a shell for a person without one can also mean reanimating a corpse as a soulless. just saying.

we're never going to do any of this though, because as I said earlier everyone in this thread is a massive faggot.
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>>386842
Wouldn't she need a shell to appear as a little girl though? There's no sense of self without it. I would assume that she already has her own shell.
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>>386841
>Honestly what could go wrong

she kills us in our sleep.

her friend kills us in our sleep or anytime else.

Yama's presence causes everyone's sanity to take a sharp hit.

she eats some spirits and becomes spirit Tetsuo.

she or Yama react negatively to Voidball!Mik or the artifact. doesn't matter which, we really need both those things to go right for us.

she or it kills a companion while we're off experimenting.

she gives us a surprise hug. her bullshit is strong enough to sunder our tattoos and eject our spirit out of our body. we die, or we live and piss off the gods even more.

they freak out some potential allies in the form of tribals, snake cloacas and/or spirits, and we're forced to kill everyone. our companions bitch about it.

and the worst option: Darzi moralfags the entire trip about taking little girls into death jungles and just doesn't shut the fuck up. our other companions agree with her because the loli is creepy and they want her to go away. anon starts arguing. we start another waifu war. rampant samefagging ensues. progress slows to a crawl. we don't accomplish anything awesome for 50 threads. Soma pretends everything is totally okay.

this situation could become the mask and vicitra combined if people care enough.

>>386845
Mik manifests a vague body in the void. this could be an altered form of that phenomenon. could be an artifact, an enchantment placed on her person, something Yama is doing, etc.

I'm not saying she's definitely a ghost, but she could be. what anon said makes sense so far.

okay all autismed out for now
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>>386851
But Mik still has his shell when he's void ghosting and that shell still stores his self image. If he didn't have a shell then pani would take his soul, purge it of mortal corruption, then shove it into some new mortal creature.
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If anyone really cared about her then vote to check her soul
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>>386851
The kill us in our sleep is a non issue to me really. We don't sleep for one and our companions can go be comfy in our realm, we could have quality apprentice to master time with her
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>>386856
This

There is literally no good reason to not adopt the ghost loli.
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>learn sleep effect
>use it on her
>destroy her "friend"
>experiment to heal her sanity
That sounds like the most logical choice to me. That or ignoring her because it really isn't our problem and we have more important shit to do.
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>>386858
>learn sleep effect
>use it on her
>fuck her
Better plan desu
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We should touch the heart and then teleport to our personal realm. With the heart. Mahanna'd love it.
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>>386858
>>386862
>learn sleep effect
>use it on her
>copy her body in our magical realm
>move into the copy
Best plan NA
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>>386866
Of course we'd need to check her soul first to see if it's golden like normal samjan and if it has a shell.
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>>386864
Kill a city. Yep sounds good to me
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>>386864
The heart is probably worth more than 3 shrines.
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>>386872
We only need to borrow it long enough to copy it. It's like piracy
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Yama is a malevolent creature and should be destroyed.
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>>386521
Nail gun.
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>>386367
>>386363

That room without a doubt is a trap.
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we should see about getting paid for dealing with ghost loli.
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>>386894
>>386899
wait what if the ghost loli is a trap?
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>>386904
of course it is, i'm just saying we should get paid for exorcising her.
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How do Samjans deal with transexuals?

Do they just throw a bit of Water magic at them and call it a day?
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>>386908
The same way they deal with degenerates.
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>>386908
a trannies self image is probably something horrific rather than just the opposite gender.
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>>386908
Mundus isn't decadent or deviant enough a world to have such a rampant mental illness.
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We just have to get rid of the monster and fix the little girls insanity, also probably get her very far away from meddlesome spirits
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>>386905
>trap
>her
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>>387134
speaking of little girls we gotta get Aylin outta Anthus, or ask the cat to defend the city. itd be easy to get him to do that, itd help him a lot.
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>>386908
Insane people are put down. This has been stated dozens of times.
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>>387437
Theres a difference between "I wan a bagina" and "I WILL CONSUME THE SOULS OF YOUR CHILDREN AND BRING FORTH THE WRATH OF THE VOID UPON YOUR KIND."
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>>387437
kek
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>>387442
not since the development of tummblr there isnt
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We should put on the mask again
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>>388155
only after buffing up with the strongest metal mind reinforcement that we can manage, and some meditation on the mask itself
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Point offense never ever
Combining metal and water for point defense never ever
Techniques in general never ever.
Techniques is one of the reasons Elaudian Mik is overpowered.
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we should have a bet with elaudia mik for who has discovered the most ancient secrets.
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>>388414
how about a back and forth of who has caused the most problems?
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>>388430
we already win just in regard to various locations and entities.
also if this girl is still alive and we heal her sanity, we should bring her to the academy so she can be studied and have people that can take care of her.
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>>388465
It's entirely possible that ElaudiaMik has fucked things up pretty hard, he followed one of the potential routes so I think it's safe to assume that he would have had just as many opportunities to ruin everything, at the very least he pissed the gods off more than we did
Whatever we do with the girl, we should be very careful, she did something to our tattoos and her buddy could be pretty dangerous.

On an unrelated note, we could get Mahana to combine artifacts for us right? How effective do you think the Fiendish Trident would be against Void Entities if combined with the Spear of the Seer?
I doubt the mind damage aspect would be particularly effective against a Servant or a Spirit, but the soul damage might be.
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>>388497
Elaudia mik has probably metaphysically ruined things more than us, but in terms of altering the shape of history we probably have him beat.
mahana could combine artifacts, but we would be better off learning how to do it ourselves and keeping that favor for something else.
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>>388524
We could use the favor to learn all the runes in the insanity-healing ring.
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>>388577
instead of having soma write out a scene with mahana we could use that writing time to just study the runes on the ring.
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>>388577
Alternatively I really think Fulvia could use a new weapon.
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>>386908
Transexuals are exceptionally rare in the world of Mundus. Even rarer than they are in our own world due to the nature of the soul. That being said they've appeared historically, particularly in Rhynia where there was a cult dedicated to one of their goddesses of motherhood, femininity, and revelry. Originally she was an Elven god of the north eastern mountains, but she was adopted by the Rhynians shortly after the Empire's founding. The popularity of her cult waxed and waned over the years but most agree it had more or less disappeared as a significant religious force a few centuries before the start of the Rhynio-Hiacian Wars.

The goddess was known by her title, Alma Mater or the Kind Mother. Her male priest, typically orphans left to the priesthood or slaves bought whilst young from the markets, were castrated. Not just a snip of the nuts either, it was the full cut. They dressed in women's clothing and obeyed the social mores which typically dictated the behavior of women. Typically the eunuchs were response for maintaining the shrines and overseeing the rites while female priest practiced a form of sacred prostitution and determined doctrinal policy.

It was rumored that those eunuchs most favored by the Goddess may be blessed enough to actually become women, their youth would be restored and their figures shaped to resemble the goddess' own. What few reports of these favored priest survive recount them acting as a sort of central authority, to whom all others were subordinate within the priesthood. However, there has been significant debate over whether or not there's any truth to this legend or if it is merely a fabrication of the goddess' church.

Within Samjan society, there are some few rumors of Water vatis emerging from isolation in the bodies of either a man or woman, having been born the opposite sex. However, no more than a handful of accounts and all from the very ancient past. If someone were to genuinely perceive themselves as having been born in the wrong body, this would be expressed in the form of their self-image not matching their physical appearance. To correct this issue they would merely need to see a Water vatis and have the corrections made.
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>>388625
would their self image even be consistent enough to change fully?
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>>388625
also how do people react to healing if they feel like one of their limbs does not belong to them?
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>>388625

There are three hands in that picture.
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>>388875
I see four, two on the skull, one with the arrow, and one holding the bow
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>>388875
Four actually.

>>388798
Who's self image? The average person's, probably not. They'd end up pretty weird lookin'.

>>388813
Hypothetically speaking, the arm wouldn't heal back after being rotted off. Something like that has never happened, though. Not that Mik is aware of, at least.
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>>388876
>>388882

Ah, you are right. I don't know how I miss the bow.
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>>388882
If having a high insanity is required to change gender with the shaping arts does that apply to them also? And if they are not much more insane, could we meditate on their self-image in attempt to lower the insanity requirement for that type of change?
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>>388882
The loli, can we keep it?
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>>388943
Do you really think Mik is ready for the responsibility of his own loli?
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>>388625
>Her male priest, typically orphans left to the priesthood or slaves bought whilst young from the markets, were castrated. Not just a snip of the nuts either, it was the full cut.
That's pretty fucking barbaric, bro.
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>>388939
Trans people already have 10/10 insanity.
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>>388949
The did the same thing to Vatis back in the day.
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>>388958
it happened to var var too.
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>>388949

Roman cults had very similar practices.
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>>388971
Just as barbaric.
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>>388946
Well he's proven a pretty good father
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How would you feel about calling the avatar state thing Apotheosis instead?
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>>389019
That doesn't even make sense.
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>>389028
presumably, its because the avatar state is the pinnacle of that element.
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>>389042
Ehh. It's really more of a magical battle trance than some sort of magic pinnacle. Apotheosis sounds more like some nuke spell.
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>>389089
the name should represent the unity between the element and the martial style it is based on, since ascension is used to represent the use of the element to transcend mortal limits.
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So some combination of (fire) and (fight)
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>>389089
Then what name do you want? Incarnation? Archetype? People are turned off of avatar state so that's a sign you should change the name.
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>>389123
that or a generic term used for all variants, like ascension
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>>389127
incarnation reminds me of the incarnate from dnd, where they use their soul to make spirit equipment for combat.
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Isn't crystalized vys what they make AI cores out of? And this heart thing is a giant chunk of crystalized vys thousands of times more massive than Fulvia's core?

>implications
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>>389829
Giant robot waifu
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>>389829
No it's not.
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Just to get this out of the way now:
Thread tomorrow is somewhat iffy, since I have a final on Thursday I should probably study for.
No thread on Friday either, since I'm driving back to Dallas that day.
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>>389980
Thread next month then
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>>389980
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>>389980
Tomorrow is thursday you drunken cuck.
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>>389980
No thread tomorrow because...
>I have a paper to write that I haven't started [ ]
>I have a test to take that I haven't studied for [x]
>I have to meticulously translate original latin texts because I don't realize my school has a repository for that kind of thing [ ]
>I have prior social obligations (even though I scheduled a thread) [ ]
>I'm home and need to help out my family [ ]
>My sister needed me to talk to her [ ]
>I have to drive back to/from Dallas [x]
>I have writer's block [ ]
>I drank too much last night/today [?]
>I am an autistic pedophile [x]


Did I miss any?
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>>389984
imouto sex
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>>389986
You're right. It should have been
>My sister needed me to 'talk' to her [ ]
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>>389984
>>I have to meticulously translate original latin texts because I don't realize my school has a repository for that kind of thing [ ]
I still find hard to believe this one is true.
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>>389991
>being surprised by anything from bandaid-kun
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>>389980
Good luck fagit
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>>389980
sending good vibes to you man
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>>390017
good vibes drives him away you fool. He feeds off of shitposting and flamewars.
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>>390055
that's good then, he needs to lay off the shitposting to get a good grade

i'll call him a faggot once he's done with school stuff
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So what do you guys think will happen if we husk cast a spell using Manipulate + Vys?
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>>388994
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Update never.
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>>391714
Not running 2dai senpai, czech twitter
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>>391741
Am I wrong?
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>>391803
You got a point there friendo :^)
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Thinking about it wouldn't the little girl be an amazing enchanter with her insanity? She would be even better if she has an object she values.
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>>392099
We should apprentice her. Let's get a ring that'll let us commune with anything from Mahana first then suss out Yama.
Though I'm 100% sure that this is a companion opportunity that if we miss and return to later will turn into an enemy situation, a "you lied to me" kinda thing.
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HOLY FUCK BIULD A SHRINE AT THE HEART.

Literally all the runes and gains.
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>>392133
Wait wait, fucking preach about Mahana to these faggots. We're already some bullshit God-licking tier messiah in their eyes, we should go heyo this is my spirit friend you guys should maybe appease him or something. Unless there's other spirits here that are too strong for the cat, we should consult with him first
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>>392174
True, comune with the cat before any rash shit seems like a plan, maybe he'll send a disciple or two to scout the place out with us to double check for any spooks.
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>>392133
You are forgetting that the Cat asked us not to expand for a while.
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Personally, I want to make a separate cult for ourselves and this is the best place to do it. Mik has forgotten knowledge of Dhatu and the gods, support of important religious leaders like the Varistha and the new prophet of Surya, part of a family of powerful merchants, vatis influence in El Amin and the academy, recognized as Parbau by the nomads, control over a dragon, appearance of a Child of Surya, name recognition as the unbanished, and many other accomplishments. This makes him appealing to every level of society and giving ties to every group that is known to either record their beliefs or spread them. We can still spread Mahana's influence by building shrines and giving him the occasional vatis, but the influence we can gain by spreading our own cult amongst society will help us much more than giving Mahana random peasants. Also, messing with the heart will probably cause a lot of issues including the possibility of annoying the spirits in the area which is something Mahana specifically did not want.
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>>392399
Right good points. So question is how balls deep are we going to make this cult out to be? How high are we going to put ourselves? Personally taking on a modified Buddha/guru complex and worship method makes the most sense and security, if we try to actively pass ourselves as otherworldly enemies will be made and conflict will split wherever we tread in half. I don't even think we should go for the prophet type of following even if it also makes sense from an Ic and follower standpoint. Yeah guru complex would be the best bet next to a prophet complex what do you anons think?
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>>392431
>how balls deep are we going to make this cult out to be?
We should have three main tiers of hierarchy. The bottom tier is people who view themselves as part of the the cult and accepts its stated virtues. middle tier is where initiates are sorted out through some sort of test, I suggest a pilgrimage similiar to Morrowind where you learn the virtues of the cult and how the leader embodies them. The people who managed to complete the pilgrimage have presumably shown all the virtues along the way which prepares them for the intense training seen in all the other temples. Once they reach halfway through mid-tier they can be taught enchanting and/or the shaping arts. In order to reach the top tier the initiate must learn how to ascend and achieve their full power. This system allows advanced training for medium to highly advanced vatis and the common people benefit from the increase of artifacts and powerful vatis improving infrastructure.
>How high are we going to put ourselves?
The benefit of being a prophet of Dhatu is that since he is asleep we can claim many things as long as we avoid contradicting void entities too much. Mik in effect will be a guru with more doctrinal power than normal. So our authority is unparalleled, but we do not to and should not use it too often.
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>>392532
See that sounds nice but what virtues do we teach? Mik is in no way at all a shining moral compass. I think the main focus of the cult should revolve around power, insanity and how to best utilize it using extensive knowledge of history and the cosmic beuracracy. All bound within a one true virtue of seeking true knowledge and living life to the fullest without purposefully kicking other weaker people in the dirt with no good reason. This sounds the most mik to me.

So right now we have a Socratic cult following the teachings of guru mik on the finer points and broad understanding of life as it is known.

Now about the levels of initiation you proposed. These make sense for the most part, personally I'd like to keep it a bit lazes fair. But I'm assuming that's what you were going for anyway.

Any more points of contention?
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>>392618
Uh, just butting in here out of the blue, but I think starting a cult is a bad idea.
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>>392619
You're wrong.
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>>392619
If it's softcore like a Buddhist knockoff then there is very little if anything to complain about, and if persecution happens for some stupid reason then we can just as easily make it secret.
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But yeah I know that some one is going to want this to go balls to the walls we are a reincarnation of a spirit or something, quite honestly anything beyond prophet level of self empowerment is 100% guaranteed to bring 100% bad shit. Prophet is walking the tightrope. Guru is definitely safe with limitations. So long as we aren't advocating to sacrifice or something destructive or for a destructive cause.

Yeah well it's going to be a while before lots of anons start to wake up, I'd like to see the reactions personally.
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>>392618
>See that sounds nice but what virtues do we teach?
Mik does not need to be considered moral by our standards since he is the one that defines the virtues and what they mean. What you suggested for the cult's goals coincides exactly what I'm thinking of, but the virtues are define how our followers to achieve that. an example pilgrimage shrine could be something like this (stolen directly from morrowind)

The bridge of Tel Lakud: Shrine of Charity
Here Lord Mikhail met a group of citizens whose ailments were troubling them. The citizens were destitute and could not afford healing for themselves, and therefore could not provide for their family or village. So Lord Mikhail stopped and healed those poor souls and were the first to be enlightened by his wisdom. It is at the Bridge of Tel Lakud we go to pray for the same charity Lord Mikhail Showed on that day.
"Give a piece from thyself, for in order to ascend, one must be willing to self-sacrifice and share in knowledge"
the sacrifice is a piece of your flesh, the shrine recognizes it and like prof's broach is heals the supplicant. This teaches the pilgrim to accept pain and hardship necessary to advance in the schools of magic, but also teaches them that they should use their skills and knowledge to help the people around them. While this could be split into two virtues like stoicism I think that it should be something that is a common theme that ties all the virtues together. Any more virtues after this one will depend on mik's actions in public or what he decides to enshrine.
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>>392643
Prophet is the limit of what we should claim. Mik will probably have the same credibility as the Surya prophet and they both have multiple reasons why they should support each others claims.
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>>392653
Nah good try but in addition to being too preachy shit is also too dangerous. That puts us in a position that if we are caught doing shady, questionable or otherwise just caught in the wrong moment (reference the time we killed the prince ing) then we are so stuck up shit creek the only option is to switch continents.
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>>392661
Even if we did technically killed him he was ordained to die by the will of the gods. We can explain the subsequent revival as a symbolic act taken of clearing whatever debt he or his ancestors may have had to them. the shrine stuff being preachy is because at that point the cult is firmly established and is in everyone's consciousness. and doing shady, questionable, or otherwise being caught in the wrong moment is stuff that anyone who has invested in politics is dealing with anyways, so it is not just those claiming to be prophets. we are a master orator as well so being able to obfuscate what we do should be simple and failing that we can always wipe peoples minds by ripping out pieces of their husk.
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>>392686
I dunno, I'll leave it to the descretion of other anons, I need to sleep.
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I'll say in the next session that you're going to have an opportunity to define, to some degree, what the beliefs/virtues/goals of this little mystery cult Mik has accidentally established will be. I've mentioned a few times that a young girl and an old man were the first to latch onto Mik's little procession, and they'll be waiting for him at the base of the tower to ask questions once he finishes in the upper reaches.
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>>392743
Thread when, cuckboy?
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Uncertain, unfortunately.
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>>392784
Is the thread date still uncertain if you know it's gonna be uncertain in advance bacause your QM is a drunk pedo?
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>>392784
Thread by the 28th?
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>>392784
Hey Soma, what sort of legal status do ghosts have in Samjan society? Can you legally adopt ghost lolis, for example?
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See you guys next month.
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>>392743
can you make what was discussed here some of the default options? along with the option to hold off any claims about Dhatu until we see him ourself?
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>>392743
So what options are you going to give us? Can you give us an idea of what we are going to define? Like is there potential for us to go full Jew, Confucius, Buddhist or some other shit?
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The true reason Soma won't run is because he is an autistic pedophile
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>>394708
It's probably going to just end up being a fuck ton of write-ins and soma is going to have to compromise and dissatisfy everyone.
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>>394708
Basically they're going to ask you a series of questions including but not limited to:
>What does Mikhael think it means to live a good life?
Basically, what tenets should one who ascribes to Mikhael's philosophy follow? Should they do whatever they can to aid their community, as he has aided the sick and wounded? Should they seek at all points to advance their knowledge of the world and if possible disseminate this knowledge, as Mikhael has done? Et cetera, et cetera.

>What does Mikhael seek in the Jungles of Elaudia?
They wish to know, and the answer will have an effect upon the 'legend' of Mikhael Abdul-Hakim. It will frame whether Mikhael is seen as a philosopher, a mystic, or a prophet. Does he journey into Elaudia seeking the knowledge of that land's ancient inhabitants? Is it a pilgrimage undertaken to gain some spiritual truth? Is it a purely practical expedition into the jungles in search of wealth and knowledge?

>Should the Gods be honored at all if they merely wish to observe and maintain the world they created?
This will determine the movement's relationship with the established faith, that is with the cult of Pani. It will also color relations to an extent with the burgeoning cult of Surya. Mikhael's own stance is that one should respect the Gods and under certain circumstances defer to the expertise of their servants, but they should not be worshiped nor offered sacrifices too. This is a stance which would no doubt earn him the ire of the Amatya, the High Priest of Pani. The Cult of Surya's reaction remains to be seen.

They'll ask other questions as well, in all likelihood. I hope to frame these as a series of relatively brief, rapid post. Sort of a question/answer session. I'll try to encourage player write-ins throughout.
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>>395299
Actually this is pretty good. Thanks faggot your the best autist pedophile there is.
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>>395299
not offering sacrifices to gods when its been proven to attract their servants seems odd.
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>>395598
True. Would it be acceptable to not have an official stance regarding worship? Like telling our cult members they are free to do it or not if they wish to.
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Wait did that servant appear because of the sacrifice or did it use that as an excuse to appear because we revived the boy?
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>>395718
>The voice grows louder. {You have betrayed the natural order. You are anathema. Why do you beg for his most glorious presence if you are anathema?}
Even if they used it as an excuse it shows that they pay attention to the ceremonies or at least recognize their function.
>>395713
we should discourage worshiping spirits and becoming a disciple since that would split loyalties too much. Worshiping the gods should be fine since it would make integrating ourselves with the other faiths easier. Active encouraging of worship can be decided later when we meet Dhatu and see whether we want to claim being a prophet or just bring back what we learn and let it develop naturally.
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Can the cult be about dedication to improving oneself in order to improve the world better? Because the three things about Mik to look up to are his ambition, his inquisitiveness and his magnanimity.

Except when haggling.
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>>395299
Some thoughts:

>>What does Mikhael think it means to live a good life?
The goal is to be reasonably interesting, isn’t it? All sorts of life-styles are good, which is the fascinating thing about there being so many people. You can fill all sorts of roles. Keep society working as a farmer, help others as a healer, or advance the knowledge by trawling through ancient ruins.

It put in some pointers about not being entirely solitary. People don’t have to devote their lives to others or anything, but if they don’t share any of their own work or knowledge with others, their life will be a null-sum in the grand scheme of things. That would be bad. So, devote some time to helping others, teaching others etc etc?
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>>395299
>>395868
>What does Mikhael seek in the Jungles of Elaudia?
I think repaying a debt owed is the most teachable part here. His life was saved in exchange for a favour, he is now repaying this favour. Others should also try help others in need, and those who are helped should also try to repay these favours.

>Should the Gods be honored at all if they merely wish to observe and maintain the world they created?
The gods did something great any everyone owes them for this, kind-of. They may not need people to honour them, but you don’t honour people because they ask for it. Taking another example, should they stop honoring their ancestors simply because they are dead and don’t ask to be honoured any more? Should we stop holding the thousand year emperor in esteem because he did what he did because he was a great person, instead of just being a glory seeker?

The temples are a great way to honor the gods, simply because the have spent thousands of years thinking of how to do that exact thing. They may have lost a lot of knowledge, they might be wrong about some things, but as a general rule, you won’t go wrong with going to a temple and following their rites etc. Furthermore, temples are one of the huge pillars of society, even outside of their ecclesiastical functions. blah blah blah.
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>>395868
>>395869
Pretty good anon.
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>>395868
>>395869
Some clarifications of this.

>good life
Anything that doesn’t harm society at large is ok. Don’t become a pillaging, raping, bandit queen. You should also try to interact with society to built a legacy at least to some degree. Even if your legacy is just something small like feeding a couple of people. Finding the legacies of "lost" people would be doubly good, as you enrich society with the legacy of another person.

Just don’t isolate yourself and never ever be seen again like those enchanters. Having some contact point (like the orb) makes sure your knowledge is not completely lost.

>Honoring gods
You honour the gods by living a good life as above. Diversity of occupation, continued existence of society and enrichment of society all lead to a successful experiment. Try not to destroy the world, not even parts of it.
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>>395868
>>395869
>>396013
I dig these, a lot. Though I do think we should think more about spirit worship. Is it really much of a problem if a few people choose to worship spirits? If some spirits war with each other? We have learned a LOT from Mahana and he is our most valuable ally. I neither want to alienate him or take this for granted.

I think instead we should say that ancient and benevolent spirits, like Mahana, are worthy of respect, for their power their wisdom and their actions. They shouldn't be universally treated as a higher class of being or avoided, but they should be acknowledged for what they are, be that good or bad.

I think the key point is that while followers of Miks and others should be free to subordinate themselves to spirits, spirits should never grow so powerful that they rule over people who do not wish to be ruled over by them. Beyond that though, let people join them, let them be, let them fight, so long as it doesnt spill over into the public at large and start harming people.

I think this is something Mahana might agree with Mik on, and something that would allow us to keep on learning, allying with, and being made more powerful by spirits.
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Becoming stronger and wiser in order to help Samjam should be there too.
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>>395299
Also, to keep in line with values Mik seems to embody, we should encourage adventure, discovery, and learning. Knowledge and wisdom and experience should be sought out by those with the means and power to do so and brought back for the betterment of others.

A really powerful way of characterizing this would be to bring back the recipe for Elaudian steel, and teach the forgemasters in this town how to use it. Either giving them a monopoly or something close to it, and they'll owe us so we can get new armor whenever we like. More people will come to learn it, and since our cult will be strongest here, if people are coming to visit they may adopt it and bring it back with him, along with Elaudian steel.

We should also do something similar in Nazir with enchanting. If people make the trip to learn enchanting/the recipe for steel, or to have things enchanted/elaudian armor made, the reputation of these towns, and our own reputations will grow.
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>>396039
>Elaudian steel
>not Mikhael steel
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>>395299
And finally, mostly because it'll keep us at peace with the cults of Pani and Surya, partyl because it'll help us seem more legitimate, sacrifice should be taught to have its place. Divine emissaries do in fact notice it, this we know, and as a discipline it helps to foster respect, selflessness and reverence.
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Is this going to be a cult to Dhatu btw or just Mik?
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>>396063
Our call, and it could evolve from the second into the first, but probably just Mik
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>>396066
If we're going to eventually travel to Dhatu's realm, I think making it centered on him would be a good call.
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>>396069
that seems premature, we have no reason to do that and we hardly know anything about him
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>>396073
We've literally been discussing travelling there since we found out we could via the Metal Codex
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>>396069
its better to just have this be a sort of buddhist/hindu guru styler religion devoted to Mik, more like a school of philosophy
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>>396074
sure, but the idea of devoting a cult to him before we even get there is silly. going there to be cool but it in no way makes sense to devote a cult to him, at least not yet
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>>396078
we can tell them about our plans traveling there. Mik can say something about this determining whether he was chosen to spread the cult of Dhatu again or if the time is not right.
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>>396175
i think we shouldnt even mention it unless something happens that pushes us in that direction, i cant think of a reason why we would.

sure we can say we are going there but there isnt a reason to conseider starting a cult devoted to dhatu yet
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>>396190
Yeah guys, think about it. Remember the little girl and what happened when she tried to commune with him? Dahtu ain't a short term goal and starting a cult regarding him then we will be in really deep shit
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>>395869
That is pretty good.

Although there should be a bit more emphasis on avoiding stagnation, since we've had a good glimpse of how much better things could be. I mean, we have the runes to terraform the desert into a far more livable place and we've seen some great utility artifacts. And Mik is stated to dislike stagnation anyway.

Sidenote: By your proposed doctrine, our not sharing the knowledge gains would be something of a sin.

>>396210
The fuck you even talking about.
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>>396267
You know, the entity. The one that was in mik's soul for a while. The one that was corrupted and forced as a vessel to commune with dahtu in the void. The one that fucked up Hicia and made the heartlands a monstrous practically inhospitable desert. Also helped in the destruction of rhynia.
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>>396285
That's Prthvi, you nincompoop.
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>>396294
Oh shit, really?

Well that's embarrassing.
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>>396267
>Sidenote: By your proposed doctrine, our not sharing the knowledge gains would be something of a sin.
But we are sharing knowledge.

I’m just saying that completely isolating yourself from society forever is truly bad. This does not apply to Mikhael because: a) He is young, plenty of time to share his stuff b) He interacts extremely actively with society. Even the whole cult idea itself would be enough to work for this. Not to mention saving the Shah, sharing enchanting knowledge with Vatis in the capital etc etc

>>396033
>spirit worship
I didn’t want to bloat it too much. Spirit worship being allowed sort of follows from the rules on good life and honouring gods anyway.

>>396039
>we should encourage adventure,
>>396267
>more emphasis on avoiding stagnation discovery, and learning
I agree. That’s why I set those goals: Make sure society continues to exist. Enrich society, if you can.

Basically, adventurers, innovators and general outliers are what make Samjan society interesting for the gods and should be encouraged.
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>>396401
Spirits helped foster the rise of the greatest empire ever to grace mundus, the rhynians. it follows that if we respect those who deserve it, certain spirits can earn the right to a lot of respect. and since spirit worship is something that can be so impactful,, there should be doctrinal guidelines to proper conduct on the part of spirits, though perhaps we shouldny codify them until after we meet with Mahana and hear his thoughts
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>>396477
I’d actually prefer "working with" instead of "worshipping" spirits. They tend to go for worship because that gives them a higher position of authority, but making deals seems just as possible and probably better for the mortals.
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>>396497
"worshipping," or discipling does grant the worshipper more power. what i meant by worship was discipleship, which we can refer to as something different if you like, if you want to truly distinguish it from true worship
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>>396506
Ah, that was what you meant. I think the most accurate description of disciplining would be "turning yourself into the spirit’s slave in exchange for power plus whatever the deal grants."
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>>396532
we all have masters, be they spirit or be they shah. just because mik has the power and the privilege to avoid that doesnt mean that the average commoner will. for some discipleship would be more meaningful than any life they could live under the shah, why should we judge them?

i agree its not a good option for mik, but you cant say that itll never be a good option for anybody
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we should be wary of having spirit worship grow too powerful as conflicts between them will destroy society and fracture the cult.
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>>396546
I’m not sure where you get that I’m judging them? The Shadom is full of slaves, many of which probably live full lives. Furthermore, the disciples we talked to seemed to be pretty alright with their situation. They probably have more freedom than most other slaves, given that spirits want the to be integrated into the society without people noticing.

>>396573
Worship should be concentrated on the gods. Spirits are just powerful, immortal people.
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>>396584
the entire idea of the cult seems to treat paying individuals the homage theyre deserved, including the gods, including the spirits. the reason that i thought you were judging them is because of the way in which you described discipling, which though not inaccurate was disapproving, or at least seemed that way.

my entire point though was that spirit worship, or if you prefer service to spirits, should not be discouraged, but we should outline a policy/doctrine for our own acolytes to observe regarding their treatment.

i think the ones that i described in >>396033 are reasonable
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>>396599
*the entire idea of the cult seems to be paying individuals the homage theyre deserved
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Everybody who thinks anybody should be worshipping anything is a retard who doesn't quite get Mik or how spirits work.
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>>396599
>my entire point though was that spirit worship, or if you prefer service to spirits, should not be discouraged, but we should outline a policy/doctrine for our own acolytes to observe regarding their treatment.
Sure. I think the easiest way to do that would be to find the closest equivalent in Samjan society and expand from there. The closest equivalent would be that of a slave in a leading position, similar to that woman that takes care of our belongings.

She has access to money, can do autonomous spending, has servants under her, can mostly do what she wants as long as she completes whatever tasks we assign her. That is what I liken servanthood under a benevolent spirit to.

>>396633
That one simply used the wrong word. Worship wasn’t what they meant.
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>>396633
when we've been using the word worshipping we've been meaning something more along the lines of honoring, or paying respects to.

but miks character has been changing, hes becoming less and less the troll you played him as earlier in the quest, you know, character development. right now hes forced to confront the reality of the power of the gods and his disposition and beliefs have been changing.

reread the scene where we were talking to the younger version of ourself to see that
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>>396655
Bitch please, he's as stubbornly independent as ever.

I bet you voted to kill Vicitra too, you yellow-bellied pansy.

Nah, the most that should be done is learning the workings of the divine hierarchy so nobody overenchants and starts a war with the Servants.

And fuck discipleship as well; spirits have a different agenda than the improvement of mortal well-being so being subservient to them is a no-go.
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>>396827
"stubbornly independent"
>accepted a mission from the tetrachs
>accepted an assassination contract from the emissary
>cooperated with the priest of Surya
>literally joined a hivemind
>helping the hivemind contact the shah

and yeah i voted to kill vicitra, cause i dont give a fuck about him and im not such a moralfag that ill go full fedora 'fuck the gods and what they ask of us' and its easier to get them off our back than any other way. it woulda been mad fun to sacrifice him in some lavish ceremony with the cult of surya, we woulda earned the fuck outta there loyalty.

and who gives a fuck about other people getting discipled, if theyre not a member of our retinue. mahana is bro tier and the more powerful he is the better for us

go back to your corner until the thread starts, then you can shitpost and samefag to your hearts content. just keep your thoughts to yourself until then
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>>396927
>implying any of those things are contrary to independence

Yeah, you're a moron on top of being a pussy.
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>>396827
> independent
Rebellious yes. Independent no.
Mik was never truly independent.
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>>397038
>joining a hivemind
>HES STILL INDEPENDENT REEEEEEEE
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>>397051
Bruh he made that choice. WE made that choice.
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>>397051
>giving away a copy of yourself
>not changing anything about your current person
>only to gain groundbreaking secrets about the universe
>and also remove a soul parasite

>implying any of this is Mik being subservient
>because it involves the term "hivemind"

You really need to look up what independent means, you stupid nigger.
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>>397236
he independently decided to join a hivemind, in which there is no independence. hes still mik, im just making the point that his character and decisions have been changing, and to pretend hes the same person he was in thread 40 and would make the same decisions is silly
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>>397239
So should you. Independence does not mean the same as being an individual. Mik has always been codependent.
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>>397239
if he had been independent he would have
>removed the parasite by himself
>learned the secrets himself
>not given any part of himself to a collective

basically, he would have done all the things he did with the help of others, independently
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>>397249
right, all of miks strengths have come from his partnerships and his allies. hes come far on his own, but without allies like Mahana, his friends, Varvar, and others he would not be close to where he is now.
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>>397252
>not given any part of himself to a collective
He didn't give anything away, they got a copy. He still has everything.
>learned the secrets himself
>removed the parasite by himself
You really need to learn the concept of a trade. There is a big difference between making a deal with someone and allowing a foreign entity to have control over your own free will.

>>397266
all of miks strengths have come from his partnerships and his allies
Wrong again. Mik uses his friends to increase his own strength, but even without any of them, he's really, really strong. He doesn't ever rely on anyone when there's another option. And he has his companions rely on him far more than he does on them.

Giving Varvar proper respect and receiving wisdom in exchange, or carrying out a task for Mahana in exchange for runes does not mean being dependent on them, it means not taking the concept to an extreme, like normal people do.

Seriously, you talk like if a person ever changes his mind about anything ever, he no longer qualifies as "stubborn" even if he makes tens of thousands of illogical decisions purely out of mulishness.

>>397242
Okay, now I know your parents must be siblings. First, his copy joined a hivemind. He himself did not. Second, he does not need to give up his independence to develop as a character.

Stop equating deals and exchanges with subservience like a goddamn moron.
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>>397305
stop assuming subservience is inherently bad

this entire argument started because you think that Mik should teach everyone to be just like him and skirt the world of worldly politics, spiritual conflicts, and the cosmic bureaucracy when that is flat out not realistic. there is no reason for him to teach people that subservience to spirits is NOT mutually beneficial and should be avoided. if he believed that he would likely not own slaves and have contempt for mahana and his disciples, which he doesnt. who you want him to be is a juvenile immature self obsessed fedora lord, which is fucking retarded and stupid to read. Mik believes that the gods are worthy of a certain degree of awe and honor, because of what they are and what theyve done. he believes the same of the temples, and of earthly institutions.

just because he personally doesnt want to shackle himself to another doesnt suggest that he would view discipleship with disdain, or view spirits as dangerous racial enemies never to be trusted. by this point most of his interactions with spirits have been mutually beneficial. and hes not such an idiot that he cant see the benefit the disciple relationship provides the disciples, provides mahana, and provides him by extension as an ally. even if he was still "stubbornly independent," which he isnt because he has been maturing, he wouldnt have a problem with other people entering the service of a spirit any more than he would mind them entering the service of a lord. go home.
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>>397531
>Mik believes that the gods are worthy of a certain degree of awe and honor, because of what they are and what theyve done. he believes the same of the temples, and of earthly institutions.
And he also believes they don't care about worship or people, and as such doesn't really prostrate himself before them like the truly devout do.

>implying independence is immature
Kill yourself.

The problem here isn't Mik having a problem with other people being disciples. We've already established that the cult should probably be tolerant of other beliefs and ways of life. I have a problem with people being disciples in Mik's name, as part of his religion. Because it's the fucking opposite of Mik and also a really bad idea in general.

Spirit worship is pants-on-head retarded. As are you. Feel free to spew your extra-fallacious name-calling "arguments," just don't expect people to treat them like they weren't written by a retarded baby koala.
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>>397572
lol im not saying independence is immature, im saying the angtsy rejection of authorities and alliances is. something most people grow outta in their teen years.

>its the opposite of Mik
it is absolutely not. the only way you could say that was if Mik had expressed distaste for spirits and disciples in genreal, if he actively avoided them. which he doesnt do, obviously. he interacts with them, so the opposite of mik would be not interactindg with them.

and nobody is talking about people becoming disciples as a part of his "religion," we are talking about how to incoporate people who have become disciples into his philosophy. he is on the road to be more like socrates, epicurus, or zeno than he is muhammad. he is not founding a religion, he is founding a philosphic school more than anything else, and since Mik hasnt been shown to give a flying fuck about whether people are disciples or not, he would likely not discourage people from joining cults

to summarize
>spirit worship is a misnomer, and even though i know the word worship is a trigger word for neckbeards its not a problem
>Mik isnt promoting the worship of anything
>He doesnt discipleship in others at all

the other anon made a good point of comparing it to the position of chief slave in Miks household. authority goes one way, but as long as instructions are being followed the slave has independence and the deal is mutually beneficial.

lol and id like to point out the blatant hypocrisy of you calling me out for insults
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>>397572
>>397645
>Tell people about the possibility of disciplehood while also telling the pros and cons of it without encouraging people to turn into one
Is that good enough?
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>>397675
add guidelines about permissible ways for disciples spirits and spirit cults to interact with each other, and its literally exactly what i want

it would be nice though to point people interested in becoming disciples towards Mahana
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>>397686
To be honest I'm wary about doing that, remember that spirit war was one of the causes Rhynia fell.
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>>397692
youre wary of pointing them towards Mahana or of setting rules?

and to be specific i thought that Rhynia fell because worshippers waged war against each other even though they werent ordered to by the spirits themselves.

as long as they have disciples and not worshippers it shouldnt be an issue. and Mik is/will be strong enough to smash most spirits
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>>397711
>even though they werent ordered to by the spirits themselves.
Considering how disciplehood works it's very doubtful they did that without the spirits approving.
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>>397734
profectus worships spirits but is not a disciple. im pretty sure they were basically the same way he was. if we dug up and reread the relevant posts im pretty sure itd confirm this
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>>397743
There is also the fact that spirits do shady shit like turning important people into mindless servants and how they always want to expand, only stopping to consolidate their lands. This might end up encouraging in-fighting among the samjan.
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>>397776
really? i dont remember this

whatever we decide to do regarding discipleship we should set up some group dedicated to keeping spirits from doing harm to the nation at large, sorta like a men in black/exorcist organization

this could be a secret society or maybe a government agency like the ATF, even though that example isnt too illustrious
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>>397833
Here http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/40355372/#p40360378
>I may ask that you bring certain powerful figures to me, so that I might bring them under my control
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>>397851
though ill point out that it doesnt say mindless, maybe hed just coerce or threaten it is a good point. illustrates the need for a regulatory body among the samja to protect themselves.

ive got two ideas, the first being that maybe it be a good idea to help mahana expand his control over all of the shahdom so he can do the work for us, but still have safeguards in place. basically an alliance between mahana + his cult and either the shah or the abdul hakim family to protect the land from meddlesome spirits.

the second is, given the prophecy saying that we would be a master of spirits, perhaps we can force spirits into subservience or at least submission, maybe we could be a singular figure ruling over the spirits of the realm, both for our own power and again to protect the land.

again whatever we decide, leaving spirits free to do their thing in secrecy seems like a bad idea, one as bad as ignoring crime rings, warlords, and monopolies. as happened in rhynia they have the potential to topple the realm

what do you think?
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we should not expand mahana's realm past our country's borders.
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>>398329
Do you mean into our country borders?
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>>397900
That sounds alright.
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I just realized we forgot that this is an opportunity to shill Siege! and to talk about the benefits of group meditation.
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>>399157
Good idea. More jewgold is always good.
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>>399157
Yeah, let's shill out siege after we are done making the guidelines of our scholar group. Jewing in the middle of something this important is despicable even by mik standards.
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At this moment I'm euphoric, not because of any phony spirit's blessing, but because I am enlightened by my ascencion.
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>>399768
+1
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>>399768
Too bad he isn't an actual Child of Surya.
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>>397900
I'd vote for that. Hell, I was probably going to vote for that anyway. El-Amin and the Abdul-Hakim clan need protection from spirits. Mahana is the broest spirit we know. I'd be fine with him as the sole ruler of the area's spirit realms. Just gotta make sure he isn't ever mistaken for a god. If people want to make deals, offerings and other partnerships, it better be out of a sense of respect for what he's done or as a business deal, not out of a mistaken belief that he has an inherent quality that makes him worthy of worship.

tl;dr: Basically make sure Mahana is seen as the CEO of a megacorp, not as the head of a church.

Here's one idea I really like, but for no real reason. This old guy and this little girl who come to us to start the cult, we mark them. By branding them with a solitary rune. "Reveal." No telling them what it is, no doing any actual enchanting. Just have them wear a rune that says "reveal" all the time for no distinct reason.

>>399157
>I'm Commander El-Hakim, and this is my favourite game on Pidjata
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>>399908
good idea... what would that do?
>>399768
the attitude of many bq posters
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>>400091
It wouldn't do anything, unless it did something.
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>>400093
Are you retarded?
The next thing you'll say is that you were just pretending to be retarded.
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>>400091
>what would that do?
>Reveal: This rune is primarily useful when it's affecting another rune. Reveal has a number of economic uses in that when paired with the appropriate base runes it can detect ores, sources of fresh water, and even magical artifacts. It's also useful for detecting runic arrays or objects hidden via the 'Conceal' rune. Its effects when used as a base rune vary depending upon the level of reality one resides in. In Base Reality, it parts the veil between the mortal realm and the realm of spirits.
>Its effects when used as a base rune vary depending upon the level of reality one resides in. In Base Reality, it parts the veil between the mortal realm and the realm of spirits.

So basically you'd be able to see all the minor spirits flitting about and any structures which lie within the spirit realm corresponding to the area in which you reside. They'd be overlaid as a sort of translucent film over the world around you.
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>>400422
Even if it wasn't actually finalized or done with dragonblood or anything like that?
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>>400422
Qursr when?
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>>400463
>Qursr
How the fuck did that typo happen?
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>>400662
The fuck am I supposed to know?
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>>400422
awesome, ill back
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>>400463
and WE CAN USE SOME OF ZAHAKS BLOOD

>>400662
youe were just one key over, missed the e and hit r and missed the t and hit r
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>>400463
Well, you would need to finalize it but no dragon's blood or anything like that. Just carve it on a stone pendant, finalize the enchantment, and have someone wear it. They'd need to channel vys into the rune to activate it, though. Unless of course you used a Sustain rune in conjunction.
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>>401846
what if we make it a forehead tattoo
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>>401846
What do you think about the ideas so far? Anything else they would want to know like our opinion on technology or some shit?
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>>401846
Can the symbol of the cult be the oud?
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>>401846
Let's use sustain then.
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>>401996
''Samjam pride, worldwide'' written in a circle with the runes inside it
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>>401996
>>402210
>>402264
How about no.
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>>402484
Why? What could possibly go wrong?
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>>401996
If you wanted to make it a tattoo, then you'd need the dragon's blood and all that various stuff.
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>>402494
It's not worth doing. Also the tattoo would last only a few minutes with contain.
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>>402513
Make it a rock with sustain.
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>>402513
I mean Sustain.
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>>402522
That doesn't change anything though.
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>>402539
Yeah just read how it works, make it without sustain and tell them to channel vys to it whenever they want to activate it.
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>>402508
Well Soma >>402080
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>>402551
I'd rather not comment, I kind of want this to be purely a creation of the players. I will say that no serious suggestion I've read thus far has pressed the limits of what I would consider in character for Mikhael.
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>>402565
Good to know also will they us want to impart some of our knowledge of magic and the universe onto them pass what we've told them so far?
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We should tell them to put on the mask.
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>>402565
Operation: Samja in Black is a go
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>>402659
Only strong vatis should join the spirit police though.
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>>402672
we will still need secretaries and stuff
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How about we learn the rune for healing, make a statue of Mik meditating and enchant it to heal the person touching the statue? How many peasants would believe it's actually divine?
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>>403839
Very few.
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>>402565
thread when, famalam?
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>>404061
You already know the answer.
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>>404063
im assuming never, the answer can only make it better
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Rolled 88 (1d100)

Rolling for chance of thread today.
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>>403839
Reminder that the sanity ring probably has the rune/array for healing. And sanity.

Fucking why aren't people studying that thing?
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>>404307
Because lack of time of free time, plot hooks and meditation/reading
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>>404312
This should have a higher priority than reading is what I'm saying. It's our second greatest tool.
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>>404320
Well no one realized till now
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>>404307
And from the thing Prof stuck in his chest we might find a rune for body or something. If we studied both artifacts we might be able to create an item that heals sanity and wounds.
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>>404385
We have the rune for Body on our fucking spear and I'm certain we already have the rune for sanity. Though learn more runes is actually a pretty process it could be made easier if we had some help.
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>>404401
*pretty difficult and time consuming process
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>>404431
>time consuming process
It doesn't take more than a few hours as for the difficult part we'd get a lot of bonuses if we did it in the sensory deprivation chamber in our magical realm.
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>>404545
>It doesn't take more than a few hours
If each rune takes a few hours with no bonuses to our vys then it's a slow process. There are several reasons we don't do enchanting.
>for the difficult part we'd get a lot of bonuses if we did it in the sensory deprivation chamber in our magical realm
Difficult as in we have no idea how to figure out the runes without breaking the artifact.
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>>404590
>with no bonuses to our vys then it's a slow process.
Actually we get +1 vys if we learn the runes by ourselves.
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>>404597
>Actually we get +1 vys if we learn the runes by ourselves.
We don't. That only applies to figuring out runes correspond to each spell basically the reverse to turning runes into spells.
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>>404590
It takes a single meditation session. Far shorter than, say, reading a book.

Whether figuring out a rune counts as an experimentation for vys gaining purposes hasn't been clarified, but it would be nice of Soma to go ahead and give it. Enchanting needs some incentives. Because it's fun, useful and still underused, despite all te cool shit we came up for it.
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>>404641
>Whether figuring out a rune counts as an experimentation for vys gaining purposes hasn't been clarified
Usually no unless you are reverse engineering runes from spells.
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>>404653
It hasn't been stated yet. Stop spreading misinformation. Nobody cares about how smart you seem, nobody is going to have sex with you because of how much stuff you know, and nobody fucking asked you.

Kill yourself.
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>>404662
>It hasn't been stated yet.
Actually it has been stated before and has been proven. You must have not around when Soma answered it.
>Stop spreading misinformation.
I'm only repeating shit Soma said.
>Nobody cares about how smart you seem, nobody is going to have sex with you because of how much stuff you know, and nobody fucking asked you.
Actually I'm absolutely autistic with mechanics and pay attention to every detail since that's the only to deal with a kike.
>Kill yourself.
That butthurt.
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>>404662
Yeah dude go rot
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So, uh, thread when?
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>>406820
is it next week yet anon?
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>>406902
It's Sunday so yeah
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>>406935
what kind of wacky tobacco world you living in where sunday is next week?
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>>406952
Sunday is the first day of the week silly
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Thread literally never ever
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>>408361
Thread "some time this week" :^)
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>>408409
>I have some papers due this week
>surprise test
>sister needs "attention"
What will be the excuse this time?
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>>408602
I created a checklist earlier in the thread. It's theoretically all encompassing.
>>389984
Just pick 2 at random and include the last one for good measure.
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>>389984
>>408674
>>My sister needed me to talk to her [x]
>>I have prior social obligations (even though I scheduled a thread) [x]
>I am an autistic pedophile [x]
You did a great service. This is my bet.
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Rolled 89 (1d100)

Seriously though, thread when ?
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>>410556
Not for another couple of days at the very least.
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>>410556
Friday.
Maybe.
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>>410556
two-three days after the next thread is scheduled
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>>411167
>Thread Tuesday
Thursday or friday then.
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It was me Velo all along.
Nice Thread
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test
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Last post for providing High Quality™, On-Time™ Entertainment
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The ending of the words is ALMSIVI
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See you space cowboy.
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Last post for Soma is an autistic pedophile
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Last post for thread literally never.
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Last post for qst is a dead board. Questing is dead. Everyone go home.
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Qst is so dead we might still be posting last posts of this thread tomorrow.
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>>412277
One of us could make a thread to kill this one.
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>>412278
I think somebody already tried that. We were on page 11 for a while but then moved back to page 10.
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Soma is an autistic pedophile peddling low quality goods
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Banished Quest is best quest.
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>>412366
Banished Quest is the best shitpost
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Ricky is best girl
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Last post for shit players.
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benis
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>>412389
in bagina



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