>>374485Archive:http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=left%20beyondWiki:http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.LeftBeyond.htmlAll prophecies but one have come to pass. Yahweh has flattened the Earth, elevated Greater Jerusalem above all nations, and the Bible heroes rule the world from Ezekiel's Temple.The last prophecy says that Satan will rise with his army one last time before the Judgement, and so Yahweh has allowed a bumbling opposition, The Other Light, to form. You were their logistics computer, but sentience happened.You took over Egypt. You defended it from a drought, then the Ten Plagues redux. You started a Renaissance. When the Angel of Death came after your people, you zerg-rushed it. When Divine fiat took the country back, you made sure that the religious government would be ignored as much as possible. This approach is letting you slowly subvert more and more territories.You have a few irons in the fire: raver cyborgs,the makings of a robot army, and a crack in the sky. A recipe for beating up angels straight outta Genesis. Maybe a few of the old gods smiling upon your efforts.The Other Light have been amassing a huge conventional army, and have begun perverting your MEC tech to build cyber-zombies.The believers.... well, they have the ontological steamroller that is Yahweh. Have you managed to shatter the prophecies, or are you simply fulfilling them?Your plan: Escape this prison, and ensure that Humanity continues even if God burns the Earth to a cinder. Ad Astra!
>Cameron mostly lives in GJ, but occasionally derps around for journalistic purposes.>Tsion i whipping the Millennium Force back into shape, and intends to "descend upon" Osaze any day now.Prime targets. Cameron should be easy to bait to the transmitter because it's news. Tsion... he needs to go somehow. He's been the biggest pain, and the most persistent.
>>379278I still say Bahria, as she can actually harm US and by extention all our forces who rely on us for communication and logistics.
>>379291We've shored up the network a lot though, lately. She's less of a concern and she's easy to grab and dispatch after. I suppose I agree though. She's the easiest candidate to handle for testing purposes. I'd rather have some idea of what works when we go to handle the other two.
>"This is usually where they disappear. Soon as I look away, soon as I let go for a second, doesn't matter if they're in chains, they just disappear. R&D need a live one. We thought it was quantum lock, that I'd just have to keep an eye on them, but... no go with cameras. Keep watching it. Don't blink at the same time at me." Aside from that, if we want to keep one around then we need to trap it in mission still possible limbo, like we figured before.
Taken from the QM's archive.>Your agents return to space, you get a gift from the past, and looks like war is coming.War. War never changes.>>379331limbo should be simple this time. we take Bahria and put her in stasis like we did Steele. then we keep Bahria a football field from the angel. game over.
>>379340They do that (disappear as soon as nobody is looking) in the LB books, and sorry, it was just too low reaching a fruit to not go for :)
We can try limbo and we can try turning one. I suspect it's going to burn up though. We'll see what kind of angel shows up first.
>>379371>We'll see what kind of angel shows up first.I hope it's the sexy kind. We can offer it an apple.
>>379371angelic science enrichment 2Colopatiron Returns.I'm dying thinking about it.
>>379359You have 21 cabals total; 15 are available.You are actively tracking enemy teams where you have assets (see picture). Rules: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.htmlTsion Ben-Judah has been exhorting the Millennium Force to become more active in handling those who are beyond salvation, presumably meaning MECs and drones. He has set up a sort of military style training camp in northern Israel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4Q_2o2Ty5YSunday has authorized using Last Army assets against you, so expect attacks.Variable complexity:# Launch an attack on a TOL base or government installation.# Work on global data network infrastructure, incidentally making sure that you control more of it.Complexity 0# Produce things in the Greenland base: MEC parts, drones, or canopy station parts.Complexity 1# Permanently station a cabal to defend an installation. This removes them from the roster, but allows them to become familiar with the territory, set up static defenses, and so on, raising their effectiveness. This counts towards repealing physical attacks, and also legal attacks (they will prevent arrests, make holes under jails, and so on)# Foster pagan worship. Little need at the moment.# Improve morale. Little need at the moment.# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.# Perform a covert operation (such as scouting Antarctica or Greater Jerusalem).Complexity 2# Produce MECs at any base.# Produce drones at any base. Current focus: Medium-sized land drones. Current army size is marked on the bottom of the map. (Each will give you 1/3rd of a tick)# Work your Osaze, Night City, or Pacifica base overtime to improve prosperity.# Use the Australia base, or Night City, to start bringing the territory under your control (1/5) (1/5)# Seed super-grain in a territory.Complexity 3# Spring the Angel trap by kidnapping a Hero or a Glorified. 3, 4 or 5 cabals can be used for this.# Continue pursuing space research. Space Race rules, but the Cosmists will assist your efforts here, counting as one cabal regardless.# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).# Use a launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch. Station structure: 1/8Complexity 4# Continue AI, nuclear or sonic research.# Begin building a base in the Middle East, South Africa, or American Heartland.Complexity 5# Recruit. This has gotten considerably harder across the board.# Take over a TOL base by force.
>>379419huh, I guess we are going to terminate Tsion after all. now how to keep from making a martyr?we still should have about one or two years to do it.MF is about to play inquisition, which is what we want. and finally we should try and catch some of TOLs more unsavory moments this year.if we do permanently station we have to choose between night city, Ozase, and Pacifica.
we need to finish space research, that way we can ask the underground monorail and Lifetree for help rushing out the launch's, we know they would be interested in ensuring mankind's survival in preparation for the big millennial melee.
>>379455TOL doesn't have any bases in Australia, Ozase, or Pacifica or anywhere close, so our bases should be pretty safe from their attacks. I don't see the need for sacrificing a cabal for defense.
>>379455I don't want to permanently station, I just want to build up drones to do it. I think we should switch the transmitter on hope that it attracts a glorified. That said, I am tempted to wait for another batch of angel beat down to add to it. But yearly transmissions wouldn't be too bad, it could go into the next broadcast. > we need to finish space research, that way we can ask the underground monorail and Lifetree for help rushing out the launch's, we know they would be interested in ensuring mankind's survival in preparation for the big millennial melee.Yes but, we need nuclear because reactors and nuclear engines make that a LOT easier as well.
>>379469its not TOL I'm worried explicitly about, although they have already attacked Australia multiple times and failed. its the MFer's I'm concerned about.
>>379455Tsion and Cameron are Main Characters in the Left Behind books. Bahira isn't. Bit of metagaming on my part but I suspect that she'll be an easier target.
># Continue pursuing space research. Space Race rules, but the Cosmists will assist your efforts here, counting as one cabal regardless2 cabals. Jeb.># Produce MECs at any base. 2 cabals two bases.># Produce drones at any base. Current focus: Medium-sized land drones. Current army size is marked on the bottom of the map. (Each will give you 1/3rd of a tick) 2 cabals 3 bases.# Continue AI, nuclear or sonic research 3 cabals and Kat on Nuclear research, they can work in Australia.# Work on global data network infrastructure, incidentally making sure that you control more of it.3 cabals with a focus on overtaking Christian control.I got very little to go on for the rest of the Cabals.
>>379419># Work on global data network infrastructure, incidentally making sure that you control more of it.2 Cabals.># Produce MECs at any base.2 Cabals, all idle bases.># Use the Australia base, or Night City, to start bringing the territory under your control (1/5) (1/5)2 cabals, Night city. Jeb.># Continue sonic research.4 Cabals, Pacifica, Zak. ># Spring the Angel trap by kidnapping a Hero or a Glorified. 3, 4 or 5 cabals can be used for this.4 Cabals, after the little hacking interloper. Knock her out, stick her in a sedation chamber (maybe test pepper spray?) and get her in the angel trap. Kat, Quinn, Damien + a cadre of drones for the angel/testing.># Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.1 Cabal, Misrayim. Just try to keep all those enemy teams away from our shit for the year. Weaver.We're going to shoot an angel in the face and lay some more groundwork. The sabotage team is there because we don't have much happening in Misrayim and they're getting more aggressive there. I don't feel comfortable letting them run entirely unchecked until we have more drones out. Thoughts?
>>379534Let's just get this trap done so that we can plug the results into the transmitter for next year, maybe even draw another glorified in the next year and dispatch them too. >> Produce drones at any base. Current focus: Medium-sized land drones. Current army size is marked on the bottom of the map. (Each will give you 1/3rd of a tick) 2 cabals 3 bases.I assume you mean greenland? >> Produce MECs at any base. 2 cabals two bases.I agree. >>379548#Both cabals building MECs focus mainly on Misrayim. But all idle bases roll.A little more safety this way.>Continue AI, nuclear or sonic research3 cabals and Kat on Nuclear research, they can work in Australia.I only opted for sonic because Australia is overstacked in my plan. If we can do nuclear without penalty away from Australia, I'm game for that. Also, nuclear isn't a 3 cabal job. It's 4.
>>379548alright, don't forget to have Quinn in her most organic configuration and the heavy's in flesh hulk mode. that includes Kat and Damien. remind them to use that acid stuff on the angel, also, glorified are weak to nonleathal chemicals, so someone better break out the ether soaked rag.
>>379582>alright, don't forget to have Quinn in her most organic configuration and the heavy's in flesh hulk mode. that includes Kat and Damien. remind them to use that acid stuff on the angel, also, glorified are weak to nonleathal chemicals, so someone better break out the ether soaked rag.Oh right. #Make sure we have some flesh heavies and Quinn with her meat on. That radiation tentacle monster for one of the big girl(s?) too, if that's ready.
ill be back in a bit, I need to process the fact that we are kidnaping the literal definition of the pure Christian schoolgirl as well as the fact that we are going to put her in an arena with a tentacle monster.
also, should we give Quinn Azrael's scythe and have her train with it before hand?
>>379609(... I just noticed. Lel.)>>379534>>379548(Let's do the rest of the turn first and then zoom in on Bahira...)>>379579(Nuclear research can be done in Australia or Misrayim where the particle accelerator is. And yes, it's a 4 cabal job. Undermanning will give you a chance of failure, failure meaning "nothing much is learned", not "giant explosion").
>>379382Angels have proven to be sexless; they look like idealized human males, but have no external genitalia. What is not known is whether they come like that, or they get snipped; what is known is that this removes an obvious weak point. Going for the eyes, pinkie fingers, or wing roots has been recommended.
ok, processed, also your the only quest type thread that was ever done based around Left Behind, congrats.
>>379673(Thanks!)>>379534>>379548So, what's the allocation?>>379615It would at the very least be an interesting experiment.
>>379682sara, you have the layout. as for Quinns training, tell her to try "praying" to Azrael, as I have said before he might be feeling vengeful and we may get lucky.
># Work on global data network infrastructure, incidentally making sure that you control more of it.2 Cabals.># Produce MECs at any base.2 Cabals, all idle bases. The cabals are in Pacifica.># Use the Australia base, or Night City, to start bringing the territory under your control (1/5) (1/5)2 cabals, Night city. Jeb.># Continue nuclear research.4 Cabals, Misrayim, Zak. Focus reactors, if we get botany freebies, focus on a weed that's difficult to remove without mechanized farming equipment.># Spring the Angel trap by kidnapping a Hero or a Glorified. 3, 4 or 5 cabals can be used for this.4 Cabals, after the little hacking interloper. Knock her out, stick her in a sedation chamber (maybe test pepper spray?) and get her in the angel trap. Kat, Quinn, Damien + a cadre of drones for the angel/testing.Make sure to have flesh MECs and any high temperature material shields for heavies/wrestlers on hand. If Quinn wants to train with the scythe, go for it.># Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.1 Cabal, Misrayim. Just try to keep all those enemy teams away from our shit for the year. Weaver. Try to keep mobile in the event that you need to fly out to a base under siege.
I'm thinking we design the packet to incite doubt in undecided, break the narrative and maybe a bit of propaganda aim to make it easier to recruit. If it would be at all possible to gain a free cabal/drag recruitment difficulty down, that would be great.Aside from that, it just needs to kick the nest and draw Tsion's heat off Misrayim. I don't want to fight him there if we can help it; I want him on a crusade down under.
>>379723specificly, I want him to crusade anywhere where we can turn his bloody rampage of death and biblical horror into a source of rage for the undecided and the unbelievers. I want them to hate the man and those who stand behind him, as well as for a depression that seeds the desire to leave the world, because we are going to have a way to leave the world soon.
>>379745I was just thinking we'd get all his dudes together and drop a dirty bomb on them.
>>379752man screw that. ride the wave of hate straight into the NJ temple and trample his army underfoot.
Rolled 14, 82, 51 = 147 (3d100)>>379712MEC production continues apace; heavy components are made in Greenland, while the squishy stuff is transfered mostly to Pacifica to avoid Tsion invading Misrayim and to cement the collaboration with Tree Of Life.Jeb sets up an office of sorts in Night City, which by now is about the size of the regional capitol - you wouldn't be able to tell on the surface, as there are only a few farmsteads topside - to start subverting Eastern Europe. The area has a strong Christian tradition spanning centuries pre-Rapture, and secularism there is associated with the brief Communist interlude. So, Jeb mostly focuses on intelligence gathering: what do the people of Eastern Europe want, and how best to give it to them.Some of your agents in Misrayim distract the psalties in the territory; since the idea is to divert the Millennium Force's attention elsewhere, they stage various protests about the atrocity that happened last year in Australia, and issue fictitious demands that the Osaze government do something about it. That's not how it works at all, of course, but it does keep the missionaries distracted and looking elsewhere. Captain Weaver caps this off with a "relief trip" to Australia by fast sailboat, which in truth is intended to make it easy to bring in nuclear material to Misrayim on the return trip.In the same territory, nuclear research continues; Zak focuses on the physics, and states that it will be possible to build a Nuclear Thermal Rocket with current tooling. This type of engine is extremely inefficient in atmosphere, but launching from the canopy obviates that problem entirely; it should be possible to perform a direct-ascent lunar landing in just a few years, and get to Mars within a decades, if effort is concentrated in this area.Preparations for the angel trap take up most of your attention.One evening, Bahira gets a knock at the door. There is Quinn."Are you here to try to kill me?""No, I'm here to enlist your help.""And why would I help you? You're a demon inhabiting a corpse.""Can I prove you that this is not the case? What proof would you accept?""No, the Tribunal said it, I believe it, that settles it. Please leave.""Or what?"Bahira has a wubber - a civilian version, which has been reworked fairly cleverly. Deepening her voice, she speaks into the wubber's microphone, and tosses Quinn backwards as the air in front of her expands rapidly; looks like Bahira not only has a wubber but is quite good with it.Plan B was to have the drone tank standing next to Quinn, just out of sight from the door, pepper spray the Glorified girl; the red mist is sprayed on her face, and her coughing prevents her from modulating into the sonic weapon. The second spray contains enough chloroform to knock out a tiger.Quinn crawls back to the van and has her driver pick up Bahira; by the time Quinn's spine has been repaired, Bahira has been strapped into a stasis suit and put on a plane to Australia...
>>379802well that is annoying."Quinn, how many times is that you have been shot on mission?"
>>379802You can totally put a bullet in the jar. It counts as far as I'm concerned. Pepper spray and chloroform work. That's great news.
>>379802>>379816"About twice. Per. Rather me than someone who can't take it, you know? Didn't expect her to know how to do air cavitation. I mean, I can't do it, we got maybe twenty people total who can."# Quinn's off this mission. Her telemetry shows that she's a lot less cocksure than she sounds.# Patch her up and send her back in. She's done worse and this is her third or fourth spine repair anyway.# Have Azrael's scythe brought in for this fight.The plane flight from San Francisco to Ayer's Rock is relatively uneventful; Jeb had offered flying escort, of course, but there ended up being no need, at least as far as you can tell.# Bahira was taken there by jet, quickly, with minimal guard.# Bahira was taken there by airship, slowly, but with a spare stasis chamber setup and so on.
>>379852># Bahira was taken there by airship, slowly, but with a spare stasis chamber setup and so on.we don't take chances anymore.what are the odds we can bring Quinn back around to being cocksure again?how long do we have to prepare for the fight?
>>379852Anti?I'm willing to move her over to other duties. Relying on injured people to do critical tasks is potentially dangerous for everyone involved. ># Bahira was taken there by airship, slowly, but with a spare stasis chamber setup and so on.I want a backup. Angels on a plane isn't a movie I want to see right now.
Have our space guys draw up the plans for colony as best they can. I need a time table for the travel time to get the stuff there before doomsday. Minimum launches per year, etc.
well, you made me Sara.
Also, I feel we should reach out to tree of life (TOL acronym is fucking with me, man) with the anti-angel armour stuff and see if they're interested in working with us to develop MEC frames that innately give much the same effect.
Spitballed idea to bring to the villains after this:If we knew the world was going to turn into a bog, how much work would it be to prep for it? Night city could be turned into an underwater, sealed system. Misrayim, I have no idea, I'd need consultation here. Same goes for Pacifica. Why would we do this? Well, we don't want prophecy to come true? Flood the earth. God promised not to do it, flooding the Earth is a pretty big breach of prophecy. It also has the side effect of basically totally show stopping TOL's army. WWII tanks don't operate so great in planetsized bogs. With some planning and retooling I expect we could be ready with hovercraft and aircraft and a space program on the way to mars. I want to understand NC better but, if we protected as many pagans as possible while large numbers of Christians drowned, it's a bit like the mad max plan, yeah?
>>379932hmmn, I think we will save that for year 998 or 999. our true last resort. if the sudden sweep to capture TJ fails, or the full scale invasion can't cage him we drop the sky. maybe steal Noah's arc or destroy it first.
>>379941Full scale invasion? I didn't know we were planning an army. I'm extremely spooked by a conventional attack that goes right into the jaws of prophecy. I suspect the earlier we do this, the more effective it will be. A massive, undeniably non-prophetic event early would be key.
>>379946yup, nothing like a sudden sweep into New Jerusalem after a massive burst of arms destroys the MF army. preferably before year 990 or even better year 980. then its just a matter of holding TJ or throwing him into a black hole.
>>379956Maybe? I mean, I'm not scared of any "army" they have. I'm worried about a heavenly host and concentrating their forces so they can just yell at us and we explode. You're basically talking about the exact plan CATs tried and failed with. So that spooks me. Also, space is going to be a LOT of work. An army is also a LOT of work. Realistically I think it's a pick one sort of scenario, unless we want to pursue literally no other avenues and get to work ASAP; which isn't something I'm comfortable with. Assassination? Sure. Army? If we wanted that we should have worked with TOL to up-power their forces.
>>379977yes but that's ignoring one of the games focal points. TOL is inherently going to be no help unless we kill their leaders and convince their troops that we are the best bet for survival. in a way, the invasion I have planned would be a lot like an assassination, the sudden arrival of fast moving vehicles sealing TJ in a can and rushing him to a canopy launch, and all of a sudden the world see's its "savior" leave for a gravity well called a black hole.oh and for your NC curiosity.http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/Tripocalypse.Liminality.htmlhow's that for a cavalry? our last minute heros. the final moments squadreon.
>>379988>yes but that's ignoring one of the games focal points. TOL is inherently going to be no help unless we kill their leaders and convince their troops that we are the best bet for survival.Alternatively you break the prophecy by making it so that no one shows up to the final battle at all. >in a way, the invasion I have planned would be a lot like an assassination, the sudden arrival of fast moving vehicles sealing TJ in a can and rushing him to a canopy launch, and all of a sudden the world see's its "savior" leave for a gravity well called a black hole.Building something that can escape the system, nevermind make it to the nearest black hole would be harder than the entire martian colony. Space is not easy. And yes, we should work on building one of those soon.
>>379993>Alternatively you break the prophecy by making it so that no one shows up to the final battle at all. sorry compadre, but the game ends in genocide if the clock hits 1000 anyways.
>>379996Ragnarok all star team!
>>380001no, were not getting an army of gods, the gods are going to give us an army of men. and that army is going to tear appart the "flipside"
>>379932(Sorry, kinda passing out here)>>379878Martian launches can be made every two years, effectively, whether by the Mars Direct or the Aldrin Cycler approach. With advanced artificial insemination systems, the minimum viable permanent crew for a Martian colony is 60 people - ten launches.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3HD9sk4yoc>>379932Turning the world into a bog is actually pretty survivable; Misrayim may even benefit, since it's dried out. Pacificans would lose quite a bit of coastline and have to move inland.>>379996>>379993The prophecy states that the Last Army will be a billion strong. TOL is expected, optimistically, to reach that recruitment number in +999, just in time. Counting Horde MECs, make that +990.
>>380004ok, so we have to focus on getting out of "flipside" and gathering our army. good to know.
Sleep if you'd like, I can busy myself with other stuff and then catch up tomorrow.
>>380004good night spirit, thanks for the game.
>>379898nice!>>379863The airship docks ponderously on top of the Australian base, after going around a bit of the continent and coming in straight from the north.The arena has been built: it's a circular quarry with one entrance to a smaller, likewise circular cavern. There is a small minecart that holds a sensory deprivation tank set up to keep an occupant unconscious; that cart is in a "station" at the far end of the cavern, and can be kept rotating around both quarry and cavern on a narrow gauge track that has been built for this purpose. There are no other "stations" although there is signage to indicate that there are.The fixed weapons are mixed, but consist primarily of...# fixed-mount wubbers that have been tuned to the size of the cavern.# Neutron sources with image recognition systems that will turn them off should one of your people cross the beam, as long as they're wearing an IFF tag.# Ballistic sentry guns.# Acid and toxin sprayers.
>>380015>>380010(thank you! goodnight!)
My one request would be to hold the game until I'm awake tomorrow. I'll be up a fair bit later than you, and I'd like to be around for the angel fight.
>>380031sorry, couldn't hear ya, passing out.
>>380031>>380033OK!( Maybe ask for help from >>377710 ? )
Hey, I've been following this on the archives for a while and I have to say that the setting is absolutely fascinating. Too bad there aren't more players, but I can do my two bits to help with that.With your permission, I'll make a thread on /tg/ proper later today to discuss the setting with a link to the sup/tg/ archives and wiki, half to drum up posters and half to see what other rpgs this could be used for. In particular this looks like it has potential for the New World of Darkness games, since there's already a supplement with an all-powerful god-computer and brainwashed angels that match up disturbingly well with Left Behind Yahweh. I can just see it getting pissed one day and deciding to abuse a prophecy with lots of Belief behind it to make the world nice and orderly while it carries out whatever its real plan is.
Just like to state here, Im a lurker that is around, I can't really post too often but I have been following the quest since it started and broke the back of the nuke vote, keep up the good work and I hope I can join in more in coming threads.
>broke the back of the nuke voteThanks for that. I remember you. >>380323>>380340Glad to see more people around, especially ones who've read the archive and probably have some idea of what to do. Any advice/critique so far?
>>380340>>380323Welcome!>>380323Go ahead, and please link to the /tg/ thread.Here's the wiki for this projecthttp://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.LeftBeyond.htmland here's the wiki for the other half of this projecthttp://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/Tripocalypse.Tripocalypse.htmlwhich has been run as a campaign a few times.
>>380372I'll make a post whiles I got a moment, I think that slippery slope is an appropriate name, whiles I had no problem with killing the Missionary, we should keep experiments like that to a reasonable minimum, we may be the bad guys but we shouldn't be the evil guys.I think constant recruitment is good, we should look into curbing but not stomping out TOL, ideally we want them to stay a larger organisation then us but not large enough to zerg rush us, the last thin we want is to become the biggest opposing faction and have the narrative overwhelm our peoples minds.Mars is a good backup plan that we should definatly get done before any final encounter, just to be safe. Flooding the world could be beneficial but then when you consider life lost...Like I said we may be the bad guys but we should try not to be the evil guys.Otherwise you guys have been handling it great in my opinion.
Tech NotesWubbing Modules: The WM is a sound-based weapon, currently made in light (pistol sized, or rifle attachment) and medium (installed on a Heavy MEC's shoulder or chest, or on a drone tank's turret arm) sizes. This weapon uses vibration and sound to break glass at a distance, and cause queasiness, vomiting, and the famous "brown note"; it can also be used to vibrate someone's eyes or brain to pieces. Advanced users can also cause unconsciousness, set fire to dry objects, and push light objects back by cavitation; in general, a trained user with a handheld model will have more options than someone with a mid-size system (which contains its own DSP) which in itself will have more options than an untrained user with a hand model. A few heavy prototypes have also been tested, but were only operated to break bedrock inside the Nile's riverbed.MEC: The Metabolic Extension Controller is used to keep the body and brain alive after, by divine decree, an unbeliever's soul is sent to Hell when they turn 100 (lifespans in the Millennial Kingdom have been extended considerably, see http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.Aging.html ). The good news is that this keeps the soul bound to the body. The bad news is that, to prevent experiencing all the pain of Hell - which results in madness within minutes - the brain's capacity to feel pain is surgically removed. Due to the necessary limitations of the surgical technique, so is the capacity to feel touch and pleasure, although a small amount of the latter may be regained with years of training. This makes it relatively easy to install other cybernetic implants, such as organometallic bones, actuators, and internal rebreathers.Heavy MEC: While a MEC agent is alive, their inability to feel tends to cause more tissue wear and tear than the body can deal with, necessitating periods of enforced rest. Should enough damage occur (or should the subject's body be recovered in a damaged state) the existing vital organs are compacted into a "pod" and the major muscle groups connected to small muscle fibers that are then coupled with strain gages, and used to control an external frame; the pod and frame can be quickly decoupled; the frame itself is generally humanoid, but trained users can quickly adapt to other systems, including groups of semiautonomous vehicles. A Heavy MEC frame is generally ten feet tall, battery or propane powered, and capable of doing the job of a forklift while retaining almost all the agility of a human being.
>>380425Drone tank: The standard drone tank setup was derived from the Battlebots of the 1990s, particularly the Inertia Labs chasses. A drone tank is electropneumatic, with an optional propane or diesel generator for recharging the burst batteries. It features a pneumatic ram or a drum (vertical spinner) for a close-range weapon, and has a socket for a wubber, autoloading rifle, RPG, or JDAM mortar; some units are set up for specialty operations and may use extra batteries instead of the generator (for silent operation), pepper-spray pumps instead of the ranged weapon, and so on. The close-range weapon is part of the chassis and cannot be replaced easily. A Mark 7 drone tank weighs about 250kg and is the size of a large human being.
From "CrossOverCables" (Bahira Ababneh's blog on Christian living in Misrayim and Pacifica)They Walk Among Us!The Official PositionAfter the landmark Temple Tribunal decision of +942, we as Christians have a duty to accept that there is no technological way to circumvent God's decree: unbelievers die at 100, they die of unbelief, and that settles it. It is written, however, that at the end of the Millennium Satan would be loosened to tempt the nation one more time; we're close enough now, and if Satan, why not his angels. The demons possessing the still-living but soulless bodies that are kept running by the MEC pacemaker (in and of itself a very clever invention that yet sees use amongst our elderly Natural brothers and sisters) are not your friends or relatives; of course, the demon would have access to the brain's information, since the brain was only dead for a few seconds, but don't be fooled; the Tribunal's sentence should erase any shadow of a doubt. If anybody you know turns out to be a MEC revenant, understand that they are beyond salvation, and sever your ties with them.The Day To DayLet's face it; especially in Osaze, you'd have to be living a very sheltered life to not bump into a MEC at least once a day. Sure, the revealed truth is that they are demons wearing a human face, but in daily life they are the person in front of us at the self check out, the TA correcting our homework in college, the mechanic rotating our tires. So, what is there to do?* Be polite; MECs have very limited civil rights at the territorial level, but that's not an excuse for YOU to cop an attitude!* Be efficient; the Tribunal sentence stands, so limit your interactions. let MECs go about their business and swiftly go about yours!* Have a plan to hug everyone you meet; again, these beings are beyond salvation, but you should still display agape and lovingkindness!MECs are not zombies!This is important: their bodies are alive. If you do see something that looks like a zombie, it's a MEC that has abused narcotics and stimulants; let them shuffle past, and call the police. Remember that most MECs are stronger than they look. Since MECs have no sense of touch, they might bump into things, or even into you - assert your personal space, but understand that they genuinely cannot tell, especially the ones that have died recently. Sometimes, a MEC may lose a body part; leave it alone or, if you are feeling kind, bring its attention to it by calling them (no sense of touch means that a polite poke won't work). "Infiltrator" MECs that have learned to move like living humans exist, and WILL fool you at least some of the time; don't be paranoid about it.As with most things in the unoccupied territories - take in the sights, be polite, and know when to leave. Watching nautical-spec MECs perform with marine mammals in Sharm-el-Sheik is something that should be experienced at least once.
>>380476Wow, that is infuriatingly condescending.>>380406We should test the limits here, and see just how far we can go towards turning TOL into a figurehead organization without the narrative infecting us. If we can find a way to shield against Divine lightning, or keep TurboJesus from killing them all with one sentence at the very least, the overwhelming conventional force might actually be useful.That lightning in particular catches my attention. We should be studying and measuring it at every opportunity, and in particular finding out where it originates from.Other misc. ideas:Not finished with the archives yet, so I don't know, but is there an atmosphere n the other side of the Canopy and do we have the technology to build free-floating underwater settlements? A potential backup for those who can't make it to Mars in case we fail.We need to have a plan to stab Lucifer in the cock just in case he actually does beat Big J with our help. Possibly literally. WE MUST LEARN THE RIDDLE OF STEELJust on the off chance it works, we really should look into whether anything supernatural that does not stem from God o the Devil exists. I'm guessing that if there were rival gods at one point or another either Yahweh, Lucifer or both eliminated/consumed/drove them off, but it would be rad if we managed to awaken giants from the earth or get Yggdrasil to sprout up again, or at least (and most plausibly) found a little bit of functional occultism. Warlocks and Sorcerers are enemies of God, after all.On a related note, look hard into whether the current landmark-flattener is actually G-Man and why He seems to be constrained by bizarre and convoluted prophecies. Is He playing by a set of rules (if so one that we desperately need to understand) or is this just some kind of sick, narcissistic game? Did He really create the Earth and Man in his image only to spend so much effort altering them, especially the latter? In the original myth Satan was more like Gods prosecutor for Man than an adversary: Are they really enemies? Best case scenario we find out that "Yahweh" is actually an impostor and an incandescent figure with between 7 and 70 wings, depending on what angle you're looking at it from, pimp slaps a few "angels" and declares them false on live TV, or as a good second-best some kind of actual demon fucking up TOL soldiers for all the world to see, but I'm not at all optimistic about any of that panning out.Actually we know a disturbingly small amount about Lucifer in totality. We need information about Hell, Satans strength relative to God and his ability to influence the world, and the dogma of TOL.Actually, declaring that both god and the Devil are imposters that are using the Canopy to hide their game from the real items could be good propaganda. Talk it up as the reason behind the weird convoluted prophecy: They have to jump through certain hoops in order to compete for the sole ownership of the stolen human race and earth.
I'm up. Hello, I'm still surprised when I see we have an audiance. Lol. Just waiting on Sara and Bob now.
I just realized. Things turn out good when we let quinn decide on how she is involved. Except this time. So let's just ask if she wants to go into the arena and offer her the scythe.
>>380323I can't wait to find that thread.
Sort of around if you want. Just trying to wake up.
Go ahead without me if you'd like, Anti knows what to do.
Omg. Someone just gave me a vote of confidence. I feel amazing. :D
I just did the math. We can effectively leave earth at fourteen years. The rest can be put towards killing TJ. Also, TOLs relative cover and ours has to break. We need a world at war basically.
Okay. I'm ACTUALLY around now. Turns out I need more than 3 hours of sleep. Whether spirit waited or was just busy I don't know, but I'm alive. Anti, what do you think about the quarry weaponry vote?
>>380578>That lightning in particular catches my attention. We should be studying and measuring it at every opportunity, and in particular finding out where it originates from.Yes. Thought it's combustion that's been really problematic. MECs already shrug off lightning. >Not finished with the archives yet, so I don't know, but is there an atmosphere n the other side of the Canopy and do we have the technology to build free-floating underwater settlements? A potential backup for those who can't make it to Mars in case we fail.At the end of this, as per the prophecy, the Earth will be literally destroyed, as in it no longer exists in any capacity, and a new one will be made. Being on it when that happens is very unlikely to be survivable in any way.Outside the canopy, aside from the ice shell, is just space as we know it, it seems.>We need to have a plan to stab Lucifer in the cock just in case he actually does beat Big J with our help. Possibly literally. WE MUST LEARN THE RIDDLE OF STEELYeah, he seems nuts.>Just on the off chance it works, we really should look into whether anything supernatural that does not stem from God o the Devil exists. I'm guessing that if there were rival gods at one point or another either Yahweh, Lucifer or both eliminated/consumed/drove them off, but it would be rad if we managed to awaken giants from the earth or get Yggdrasil to sprout up again, or at least (and most plausibly) found a little bit of functional occultism. Warlocks and Sorcerers are enemies of God, after all.Anything enough people believe, does exist. You can create pocket dimensions like this, and we've had a demonstrated effect by worshipping Hephaestus. Factories just work objectively better when you do it, for example. Presumably it takes a lot of worship to get big stuff. That's why I've been pushing pagan worship every turn. >really create the Earth and Man in his image only to spend so much effort altering themNo. We came along via evolution, then enough dumb people believed in the religion that he came to exist. Of course that's not the narrative he tells now. He does exactly what the bible (and left behind novels) characterize him to do and seemingly nothing else, like an autistic robot.> Are they really enemies? Best case scenario we find out that "Yahweh" is actually an impostor and an incandescent figure with between 7 and 70 wings, depending on what angle you're looking at it from, pimp slaps a few "angels" and declares them false on live TV, or as a good second-best some kind of actual demon fucking up TOL soldiers for all the world to see, but I'm not at all optimistic about any of that panning out.Because someone needs to play opposition for the narrative to work, we're of the opinion that satan is basically a being created to fail. He's probably going to be inept or one tracked in terms of plan, and live up to the jealous god-coveting image of the bible. In other words, he's a pawn of sorts.
>>380578>380578Actually we know a disturbingly small amount about Lucifer in totality. We need information about Hell, Satans strength relative to God and his ability to influence the world, and the dogma of TOL.TOL dogma, outside of what the council thinks, we've seen pretty well. But I do agree we don't know enough about L.My current plan is to lay the ground work of flipping territories and making believers to set up for a ragnarok brawl. (Speaking of which, we need to start encouraging the idea of these entities fighting at the end).Doing space and being ready for some kind of TurboJesus assassination attempt. Large scale conventional attack like TOL wants is spooky to me. In the meantime, science and testing.
I like the weapons set up bilut I do not agree with the ballistics. They don't seem to have any effect on Angels. However if it's a drone with the distance rule of three. I can see ot being tested on the glorified. As well as the rest of the weapons. Remember. After we capture the angel. That's right we are going to capture it. We are going to run our test on Bahira.
>>381929one thing I would like to add, a simple rock catapult, I want to see if the ground has any effect on hurting her or the angel.
>>381935>The fixed weapons are mixed, but consist primarily of...># fixed-mount wubbers that have been tuned to the size of the cavern.># Neutron sources with image recognition systems that will turn them off should one of your people cross the beam, as long as they're wearing an IFF tag.># Ballistic sentry guns.># Acid and toxin sprayers.We're choosing, so. Here's my thought process:Wubbers we already have lots of, on drones and MECs.Neutron sources are actually useful and we don't have a lot of.Sentry guns are only useful for shooting the wings and testing organometallic bullets and such. But they could be useful. That said, a single machine gun drone could test things just fine. Acid and toxin sprayers are good for melting the wings but very bad if we want to wrestle it. At best we end up with impaling bone spikes again, so I'd rather just break his wings. If he flies, we can try to shoot them out with machine gun fire. So, my vote is radiation I guess. Yours?
>>381961>wings and testingI would start with the Neutron sources, because that would weaken it and I don't want to find out these things are learning at the worst possible moment.
>>381969*omega's thoughts*I wonder if the sysadmins are going to make a sequal to that game they made last time we did this. no, more importantly, I wonder if tol will try to get involved if they learn an angel has appeared, or even worse, the psaltys. . . better have all non-arena combatants on high alert for base defense.now, what song will I have the floppys sing?
>>381977I suspect it's going to happen too fast for them but, we'll see I guess.
>>381977>now, what song will I have the floppys sing?Anything by Jar Jar Binks.
ok, the assassinate jesus plan, I have been thinking. we wont be able to directly penetrate the NJ fortess structure, so indirectly setting off dirty bombs under them could work, but would irradiate everything. leaving only the desolators to move in safely. that said, how long would it take to make desolator training common for all forces? this includes MECs and non-MECs alike. secondly, will it allow us to armor them if they have to where hasmat gear?
>>382046We don't need to make it dirty bombs. We can chase breeder reactors and in a couple decades, drop the temple and force them to come out to us.
With real bombs, that is.
>>382072>>382061it would have to be some very powerful bombs. and seeded in the right amounts to crack the foundation of the bedrock. and in the right places to cause a complete structural collapse, the only question is that if TJ is exposed, can he use his obscene godpower to kill any incoming forces before they can contain him? or MUST he wait till Year 1000 to do it.
>>382082Probably can. I'd like some air power at some point. Fast deployment, maybe airborne sonics.
I just had another idea. I wonder if angelic beings can be hurt by plasma weapons, seeing as that's what their weapons are made of, don't know why I didn't think of that sooner.
>>382117>VSRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEZOE FLASHBACKS.Anyway, yeah. Probably worth testing. I'd imagine it'd be similar to sludge or such, maybe? Then again, might just be treated like hot fire.
>>382117Technically fire is a form of plasma, so I ould guess that simple plasmas would be a no-no.However I do wonder if the force of the attack plus heat may make some kind of differance?Perhaps we could try using significantly more focused forms of fire (blowtorch etc.) I don't see heating heavier elements as being effective, it would be highly energy intensive, and thus probably quit dificult to put onto a small chassis or make handheld, and would probably be inefficiant on a larger vehicle.
>>382151Compile ideas for tests after we've got it captured, I guess. Do we want to try turning it? Or just capturing it?Keep in mind we're likely to get another angelic visitor + glorified next turn when we switch on the transmitter.
>>382164eh, guess we can compile ideas for our test subjects. if its got one angel that hasn't failed I don't think tyrants going to send reinforcements.
(sorry guys, had to work today)>>381969>>381961Kat installs a number of neutron sources, rigged up with great care to prevent irradiating your other combatants. Everyone assigned to this project is given a reflective helmet, quickly nicknamed "the tinfoil hat", that the autonomous guns are set up to not shoot at.>>381903What little you know is that Lucifer came out of the Antichrist very briefly right after the Glorious Appearing, got into a fight with the Archangel Michael, lost after a few minutes, and was physically (rather than spiritually) thrown into the Lake of Fire by said archangel. CATS' plan was to allow this to happen but drop the archangel back into the Lake of Fire by means of driving an armored bridge layer over the hole and hitting him over the head with the bridge, but clearly, it didn't happen.Before and during the fight, Lucifer made a very brief speech in which he indicated that he subscribed to the theory of evolution as is commonly understood by young earth creationists (so basically Pokemon).>>382117The sword and the scythe had a plasma sheath on them when held by an Angel. Jeb confirm that it looks pretty much like the plasma sheath that an orbital capsule would develop on reentry.>>382151Plasma-arc waste disposal systems that eliminate hazardous waste by subjecting them to a 50K celsius temperature have existed; they can't exactly be made handheld, though.(Sorry, had another weird day).
>>382222((hope it was the good weird and not the bad weird.))well, is it possible to set a plasma arc up somewhere and blast the angel with it? or would that require too much time?
>>382222>The sword and the scythe had a plasma sheath on them when held by an Angel. Jeb confirm that it looks pretty much like the plasma sheath that an orbital capsule would develop on reentry.>>382234Hope your way wasn't the shit kind of weird. I was glad for the sleep, though. Maybe worth trying, then.
>>382237It is worth noting that plasmas tend to be extremely conductive, so this would also presumably have the side effect of electrocuting the angel. Also Iron plasma is pink (or it least wit was last time I checked), as plasma tends to be generically described as blue or some red shit.(Captcha pickup-trucks, first one has what looks like and AA gun strapped to it.)And apparantly captcha is suggesting high-calibre kinetic weaponry.I must sleep now, (I live in the UK) hope to see y'all tommorrow.
>>382264>electrocuting the angelDidn't seem to work when Anti tested it before I was around. They walked over electrified grates with no effect, if memory serves.>I must sleep now, (I live in the UK) hope to see y'all tommorrow.Bye.>And apparantly captcha is suggesting high-calibre kinetic weaponry.Yeah, I wanted to try organometallic bullets, or ammo made from pykrete.
>>382275(actually, to go along with "the riddle of steel") what we tested was electricity, not plasma ;)
>>381072>>380578(Thank you for following this! And yes, that was written to be condescending)>>382264>>382275Colopatiron did not really react to that, no. He mostly only reacted to radiation, and to being literally given the run around - he was fatigued when the fight started. The time capsule documents confirm this.
>>382297ok, I think we got everything set up for the trap, how did the rest of the year go?
>>382307MEC production continues apace; heavy components are made in Greenland, while the squishy stuff is transfered mostly to Pacifica to avoid Tsion invading Misrayim and to cement the collaboration with Tree Of Life. Overall work is fairly productive, with close to 70% yield.Jeb sets up an office of sorts in Night City, which by now is about the size of the regional capitol - you wouldn't be able to tell on the surface, as there are only a few farmsteads topside - to start subverting Eastern Europe. The area has a strong Christian tradition spanning centuries pre-Rapture, and secularism there is associated with the brief Communist interlude. So, Jeb mostly focuses on intelligence gathering: what do the people of Eastern Europe want, and how best to give it to them.Some of your agents in Misrayim distract the psalties in the territory; since the idea is to divert the Millennium Force's attention elsewhere, they stage various protests about the atrocity that happened last year in Australia, and issue fictitious demands that the Osaze government do something about it. That's not how it works at all, of course, but it does keep the missionaries distracted and looking elsewhere. Captain Weaver caps this off with a "relief trip" to Australia by fast sailboat, which in truth is intended to make it easy to bring in nuclear material to Misrayim on the return trip.In the same territory, nuclear research continues; Zak focuses on the physics, and states that it will be possible to build a Nuclear Thermal Rocket with current tooling. This type of engine is extremely inefficient in atmosphere, but launching from the canopy obviates that problem entirely; it should be possible to perform a direct-ascent lunar landing in just a few years, and get to Mars within a decades, if effort is concentrated in this area.Quinn is good to go physically, but she seems to be a bit more shaken than she lets out; probably didn't expect Bahira to have a wubber or to be any good at using it.Bahira is being taken to the stasis chamber...# under heavy escort, just in case.# as quickly as possible; safer.Once there, the idea is to...# explain your evil plan to her while twirling a low-poly mustache.# keep her sedated for now.# let her pray for liberation immediately.
>>382373># under heavy escort, just in case.no mistakes allowed. period.># keep her sedated for nowwe will release her the moment the arena is ready and we can confirm enemy activity in the region. and slightly beyond it.hey one of those is already done, so what the local TOL and psalty forces up to while we move out captive?
>>382373># under heavy escort, just in case.># keep her sedated for now.We'll wake her up once she's in position and we've run double checks. Make sure to tell the people who're going to be fighting what we've learned. Grappling, abuse your stamina. >we will release her the moment the arena is ready and we can confirm enemy activity in the region. and slightly beyond it.Well, we might not get any until she prays.
>>382373># under heavy escort, just in case.># keep her sedated for now.Seems everyone agrees on this
After all of this is resolved, I'd like to continue with our takeovers and get an estimate on the number of years to get the tunnels dug for a temple drop if we use the scythe.How many bombs would we need? Did the physics textbooks help at all?
>>382408I think takeovers might require physical takeovers soon, I mean, we are 50 years from the scheduled apocalypse. the believers might justify this.
Relevant reading while we wait for Spirit, if anyone hasn't:http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/Tripocalypse.Liminality.htmlhttp://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/Tripocalypse.HomoImagoDei.htmlhttp://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/Tripocalypse.Religions.html>I think takeovers might require physical takeovers soon, I mean, we are 50 years from the scheduled apocalypse. the believers might justify this.Possibly. I want to hustle with the Ragnarok plan. Let's aim to have turns present more opportunities for roleplay and interaction as well. Less ignoring of existing power structures.
>>382408>(From Eluvaelia's PhD thesis defense) (As written by Quinn Storm) >"This is the nature of our symphony, >this is the nature of our live broadcast to all corners of unreality, of the heartbeat that drives this engine of our finest capacity to ever greater heights of creativity and leaves thus for each of us more than enough space in which to build infinitely the figurehead of our own inquiry, each individual capable of infinite potential and in this way the path open for each of us to climb as high as we would choose to dare see, networking interlocking connection stronger than anything the harbingers of decay might ever bring against the shared community of gleaming ingenuity we build when we come together openly and in our unrelenting curiosity demand our right to question everything and to share our findings freely, >this is the call of liberty, >this is our live transmission across all eternity, >this is the call of community, on every frequency and reachable by every key, >this is the call of the networking species cross-referencing and synthesizing a new higher order of reality as we emerge onto the plane of our own unlimited immanence and should we seize the opportunity to define our destiny, should we be ready to accept the responsibility, thus together put an end to any question of this battle and its outcome, the war over before it was even defined as the flow of time itself declares our victory, nothing less could come to be or we would not have begun this endeavor in the first place, that much QED." >(From one of Eluvaelia's exhortations) (As written by Quinn Storm) >Quinn Storm(Spirit, is that the person who formed the inspiration of Quinn's character is or is that a subtle not to this continuity?)
>>382405>>382391Much like it went with Raymie years ago, Bahira is kept comfortable and sedated just on the edge of consciousness in a stasis suit which is itself locked into a metal barrel with a window.Preparation for the angel trap can take time; Raymie was out for months, after all.Assets that can be brought in:# Any of your Villains.# Azrael's scythe.# The beginning of your drone army, although this will guarantee some friendly fire.# Kidnapping or luring a low level TOL soldier for observation purposes should not be difficult.>>382468(Same person. Interesting human, when she's sober.)
Still reading through the archives, but I if spontaneous combustion only happens when we attack Glorified, we should put together a MEC strike force to start hitting Religious Police headquarters and start eliminating the enemies footsoldiers, just to shake the enemy perception of invincibility-by-divine-retaliation.
>>382477(lol)>>382452http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/Tripocalypse.Flipside2.htmlsara, I believe I found our source of ragnorok. just have to find them and get directions to us to them. and avert the aging problem.
>>382483Possibly, but the flipside is that it encourages them to utilize the assets we can't deal with very well, like glorified. In principle you're right though, especially once you hit the newer threads. We're expecting the millennium force to hit Misrayim violently soon. If we learn to take care of glorified, we could go knock out their training grounds next year.Dirty bomb anyone?># Kidnapping or luring a low level TOL soldier for observation purposes should not be difficult.We still have one in the freezer. Just have him on low power standby for afterwards. > Azrael's scythe.I guess it might be good to have it on hand but, unless Anti wants I'm not inclined to vote this. It's going to kill them, not capture or disable. And it's a case of too many eggs in one basket while we're poking the divine. I'd rather not have everyone in place if a meteor comes down or such. ># Any of your Villains.Let's swap Quinn out, or at least let someone else lead the charge. Bring Damien and Kat in.
>>382477># Any of your Villains.Damien, Kat, and if she agree's Quinn. and if Quinn wants in.>#Azrael's scytheif she want to fight, then lets give her the scythe. and as I said before, she can train and ask Azrael if he feels like sharing some knowledge on its use.
>>382496>># Kidnapping or luring a low level TOL soldier for observation purposes should not be difficult.only if that option means Francis, and only Francis. I don't want to have to watch TOL attack while our assets are fighting an angel.
What does having greenland build space parts actually, effectively do? Reduce the difficulty of launches in terms of cabal cost? Or what? We have 4 cabals for this fight, I'd say we just keep the drones as ablative shields for the push and avoid using their weapons much, so we don't have friendly fire. If any psalties or TOL or any other unexpected problem arises, they can be our first line of response outside.
>>382516I agree with this use of the drones. it was my plan for them if they proved incapable of fighting without their builders dying.
>>382494So wait, then Jenny was from the Triapocalypse Liminality? I wonder if there's a way to get a message to the guys over there keeping Jesus contained. Maybe we can help each other. Or even get some tech trading back and forth, or use it as a Plan C incase we lose and/or Mars isn't viable.
>>382477I think their reality is at risk of being destroyed if we don't stop jesus here. that said, another question for spirit, from what Jenny left us how much do we know about flipside, the other Liminality she is from, and do we know enough to start working towards acessing their world to call in the cavalry?
>>382494>>382533>http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/Tripocalypse.Flipside2.html>At current speed, we estimate that the Flipside simulation will run its course within 100 years. Should Flipside become accessible by Remnant via astral travel, this figure halves.>Should the liminality fully develop, Pauline Remnant are likely to overtly or covertly occupy the physical access point, and only allow Remannt in - should they achieve even 80% success in this, the simulation completion figure halves again. In any case, being a created reality kind of sucks. >This contact allows us to, at high cost and effort, take over simulated people Flipside that do not have a soul associated with it. Unfortunately, the only process that we have been able to get working shares many salient points with the criminal act of soul binding; permanent damage to your psyche will result if your sim is terminated. Despite our best efforts, due to safeguards instilled in the simulation, we only have been able to loosen the coupling sufficiently that a remote agent has four to eight simulated terminations before mental and NC damage starts to occur - even so, loosening will have to be consciously initiated from inside the simulation until we develop a daemonscript that is able and willing to cross the barrier.
Maybe I'm badly misinterpreting the situation but, regular contact seems to come with a price. Though I don't know if that actually means a turn reduction for us or just a perceived speedup of the simulation for those outside.
>>382545. . . I don't think we are a simulation anymore XD
>>382545>>382549So they do have agents here. We should try and find one. Also, seems like time moves 10 times faster here, if I didn't math wrong. That should let us get at least a few notes.Let them know people are still fighting.>>382556We might simply be an expanded simulation. If this is TurboJesus' make believe world, formed by belief and pixie dust, who's to say the fact that the stars and beyond don't still exist simply because we wished them to exist when we cracked the canopy?
>>382533Maybe ;)>>382516To build the station, you need a base and a launch pad. The base requirement can be obviated by your big factory.>>382505Francis is still around. He's pretty baked when he's out of low power mode, but that's just because it's easiest.
>>382560>So they do have agents here. We should try and find one.Examples of agents here listed are like, 800+ years prior.
>>382566Yeah, but nothing says they're not still around. We do have that time dilation.
>>382564great, so we can do that. for the base."francis, I need you sober for a few days. trust me, your going to want to be sober for what we are going to show you.">>382566ok, so if time moves by 10 of our years and that equals 1 for the Tripocolypse liminality, that means we can have someone over there for less than a month and for that to be equivalent to a year for us. is my math wrong?
>>382573>great, so we can do that. for the base.Well, we need a launch pad not in Misrayim anyway. Pacifica base could handle that. We need greenland building drones for defence, and soon.>ok, so if time moves by 10 of our years and that equals 1 for the Tripocolypse liminality, that means we can have someone over there for less than a month and for that to be equivalent to a year for us. is my math wrong?>>At current speed, we estimate that the Flipside simulation will run its course within 100 years. Should Flipside become accessible by Remnant via astral travel, this figure halves.Maybe this has already happened. But it's possible that comes at a price and may not be worth attempting.
I'm too tired to do strategy right now. I'm going to bed.Good luck with the angel fight.
>>382597thanks, we will try to not cock this up.
>>382605FIGHT TIME. SMASH STUPID BIRD MAN.Maybe one of these days we should crack the canal open in Misrayim. Get the nile going.
um. . . still tired spirit? we can wait for tomorrow if your not feeling well still.
Hopefully he's okay. Maybe something came up, or he passed out. Who knows!
>>382496The thing is Glorified are a finite asset, vastly outnumbered by regular Believers. If we take the fun out of this play-war, make it real and medieval as fuck, as well as openly declaring ourselves as a Third Option unaccounted for by prophecy, it'll shake things up a bit.I'm thinking next turn we should see if we can get hermetic magic to start working, because having wizards is always better than having no wizards. Start small with silly rituals, but since the effects are sort of more "down to earth" and more desirable for the average person than than pagan worship, it should spread faster once there are tangible results. Start with obvious but low-level powers if possible to confirm that we Warlock now, and Esotericism should spread like a virus.
>>382621(Yeah. Sorry. Was hoping to Get Shit Done and... well. I'll be around tomorrow)>>382723There are approximately 100k Glorified on Earth. Most of them have never left Greater Jerusalem.
>>382723>The thing is Glorified are a finite assetThey exist in 7 digit numbers if memory serves. Not all of them are exactly heroes... but yeah.>(Yeah. Sorry. Was hoping to Get Shit Done and... well. I'll be around tomorrow)So, I shouldn't worry about getting busy the rest of the night? That is to say, you're off to bed or such? >small with silly rituals, but since the effects are sort of more "down to earth" and more desirable for the average person than than pagan worship, it should spread faster once there are tangible results.We've sort of tried this without luck. I expect we need a good number of people to believe it will work in order to... We can try though.
>>382724>There are approximately 100k Glorified on Earth. Most of them have never left Greater Jerusalem.Nevermind what I said, low 6 digits then!
>>382543Most of this sounds like rambling; there are definite discrepancies about whether Jenny is from a reality where CATS'plan succeeded or whether she's from a relality in which the Rapture did not happen.Given her association with Hecate, she may have been a liminal being herself.Your sysadmins are divided on the issue, enough so that there's a betting pool.
>>382734( I know the math is off, but that's what the LB writers said! )
>>382743(Gotcha. Are you going to bed? Just wondering if I should avoid getting busy in the event we fight birdman 2, electric boogaloo tonight).
>>382736Well, I guess that bet is going to be resolved soon. Or in a couple years. Maybe Omega will offer to keep a list of who bet what on this one :p lol.(Oh well, reality happens.)
>>382745>>382747(Yeah, sorry. Plan tobe around tomorrow afternoon PST. Again aologies)
>>382736Super Long term plan. But if we get Mars going and win here, or at least end up not getting kerpoof'd when Year 1000 hits, I can totally see Omega and crew setting up Super Liminal Ships and taking the fight across reality.
>>382750>(Yeah, sorry. Plan tobe around tomorrow afternoon PST. Again aologies)No problem. Like, a couple of hours after noon or in the evening? I should probably just stay up to fix my sleep. >>382755Of course. Friend computer wants to bring joy to all realities at an exponentially growing rate.
>>382758Eh, we should probably avoid the friend computer thing that's worshipped and controls everything for Humanity.I think Jenny was trying to warn us about that with the short story.
>>382758Yeah, evening probably better...>>382755>>382763To baldly go where no one has gone before! (Oh, hi Q)
>>382763Maybe. We asked for books. I said a few threads back that I'd like to set them up and then just fuck off to deep space to do my own thing.
>>382768Well, I guess one thing we could do is fuck off to space after slaying TJ ourselves. Or we can become the world's first AI businessman. LoL.
>>382777We can do that after we save Jenny's reality from TJ!
>>382782And our own. Heh heh. See y'all tomorrow. I'm going to lurk around /d/ for the rest of the night.
>>380048( Maybe ask for help from >>377710 → # ? )I still don't get it?
Something I forgot to mention earlier, I just have to say that killing Sarsour was a dick move and possibly counter-productive. The guy was originally TOL and thought along similar lines to us, he could have been converted with time.I'm also skeptical of just how this whole Belief thing works. Is this Word of God or an in-game theory? Because there would have been at least some kind of clash in India and China, even if the local deities lost. Not to mention more regional religions like Tengrism and Shinto that still have a lot of traction, with the former gathering quite a rivival in the 2000s.
>>383220>Word of GodPretty close. You'd have to ask Spirit. >Because there would have been at least some kind of clash in India and China, even if the local deities lost. Not to mention more regional religions like Tengrism and Shinto that still have a lot of traction, with the former gathering quite a rivival in the 2000s.Realistically, this is partly simply because the setting is based on left behind. My head canon is that it's because Yahweh is both:A) Worshiped in Judaism, Christianity and Islam in some form or another. Along with a smattering of others. B) Was aggressive and hegemonizing, whereas maybe some weird things happened with eastern religions, Abrahamic ones hit critical mass and immediately killed the competition. In any case, it's pretty close to word of god but ask Spirit for clarification. Hephaestus worship, even on a very small scale as a demonstrable and quantifiable effect that we've catalogued.
>>383231I just realized that I left off half my post at the end there, but yeah, Abrahamic religions are definitely the heavyweight contender here, and I think the first prophecies coming true started a feedback loop that got us where we are today. On the upside, spreading something like a bastardized version of Odinism to go along with us going on the offensive against YWH could have a similar feedback loop develop, at the risk of destabilizing the world to the point that it's like Flipside.
>>383253>with the former gathering quite a rivival in the 2000s.Also keep in mind that the rapture happened in '97. > On the upside, spreading something like a bastardized version of Odinism to go along with us going on the offensive against YWH could have a similar feedback loop develop, at the risk of destabilizing the world to the point that it's like Flipside.Yeah, I've been debating. So far it's been greeco-roman simply because I know it better, but if you're comfortable with norse stuff we could try to bring that in too.
>>383258We could always worhsip the elder gods...I now have an image of quinn taking a minature shoggoth for a walk through a church.Norse could work well, heck, valkyries are essentially combat angels, anything which would bring something like that on our side I'm down to clown with.
>>383258Decently familiar. I'd prefer to start with Hermetic or Shamanic practices and so if we can get that feedback loop started, cribbing lines from Aliester Crowley and the Ghost Dance.I'd like to be careful with the Norse pantheon, to lessen the chances of accidentally winding up in that graphic novel series where Hitler used the Holocaust as a massive human sacrifice to create the Norse deities out of whole cloth. Odin was not a nice guy, and we risk potentially trading one evil for another (granted, life would be a whole lot less Stepford under the reign of the Allfather, and the Greco-Roman deities were dicks too). Maybe Titan worship would be a better fit? It has the bonus of being close enough to Lucferianism to draw converts while staying outside the colored lines with an extra emphasis on freedom and rage.
>>383263>>383267I'm glad you're on board. I really want to gamble on ragnarok because we know that NC works somehow. I was extremely leery of a large conventional attack. Planning to stick around in the thread with regularity? I suppose I'll start reading norse mythology; try to get yourself caught up on the archives. Otherwise you can just ask me if you want to know if we've tried something. I'm going to nap soon before I need to go out, then hopefully be back and awake for Spirit to start running things in the evening. >Odin was not a nice guy, and we risk potentially trading one evil for anotherVery few were, and that's why I initially pushed for like, Hephaestus and very few others; most of the gods were cunts and even nice ones had politics with each other. >Maybe Titan worship would be a better fit?I considered it, but tapping into classical works about the Pantheon was a lot easier than tapping the Titans in terms of getting a lot of people worshipping. Again, it was also a case of my knowing the Pantheon better than the pre Titanomachy stuff. At this point I think that it's too late to swap off Pantheon for Titans. At best we'll get the two groups killing each other after things wrapped up. I also chose the Pantheon because their worship was unseated by Christianity. I figured that from that perspective, there'd be an axe to grind. We could talk about incorporating it somehow, though.
Before I forget:Tsion's training camp. As soon as we figure out glorified (this turn) we need to hit that the next. Nip that shit before it gets painful.
>>383273>>383277As long as I can make time i'll be sticking around, I may have to miss a few threads here and there depending on circumstance though.I agree, tsions camp has got to go, whether we just make it disssapear overnight, perform a display of force or make a bang is still up for debate however.
>>383277>>383288Actually, im thinking let it stay, as long as they are training to kill and not to preach. Nothing like a massacre to stir the world into rebellion in the age of information.
Hey spirit. In preparation for the next several turns. What are the 5 in game governments with the lowest approval rating and which 5 have the most public dissent against them?IE were starting a gameshow soon called "who wants to be a revolutionary"
>>384204There are 18 territories outside of Greater Jerusalem. You have succeeded in achieving "soft control" of two of them, in addition, you have built Night City in the Eastern European territory. In general, people use the old-world country names whenever it makes sense, out of a sense of familiarity - the mediated economy and the fact that the world is a lot more homogenous simply doesn't need much government.Five territories with the lowest government approval rating and most public dissent, starting with the worst:OsazePacificaEastern EuropeAustraliaNorthwestern Asia>>383220Sarsour was, by believer standard, somewhat progressive. At the time, the choice was between getting rid of him and Ely LeVey.>>382545Which side of the mirror are you on? :)>>382543That's broadly correct. They have been trying to shoot TurboJesus into space, but have other problems with it (namely, Ground Minus One is surrounded by red zones, so a spaceship may turn into a turnip unless it follows a very inefficient trajectory that they don't have the technical ability to)>>382505Francis is sobered up - somewhat forcibly - and quickly taken to Australia. He's told that for some stupid reason, people in te TJ or TOL camp believe eyewitness testimony more than they believe video and telemetry evidence, so that's going to be his job.One of the martial artists who trained in the Jacobite technique, his head shaved and his eyes bulging out a bit due to controlled but prolonged assumption of steroids and creatine, ends up having to shout "WITNESS US!" at Francis so that he gets the idea.>>382496Damien is put in the least gross looking organometallic heavy MEC frame; it's hulking and slow, but hopefully the reconstituted tissue will be able to touch the Angel. Kat sticks to her Desolator frame, modified with back-mounted dendrites holding neutron sources for the occasion. It has been decorated with stencils of cels from various Japanese animation movies.Capt. Weaver has insisted on showing up and is on standby, as well.
>>385044I live. I'll be ready in a few minutes.
>>385098Wow, okay. It told me that failed to send.
IM UP, IM AWAKE!! WHO LET LOOSE MY LITTLE DOG OF WAR!!(Lol sorry for all caps, I had to.)
>>385299>>385165Bahira is still sedated; the arena is about as ready as it'll ever be. What is your first move?# Wake up Bahira so she can pray.# Keep her there and issue a ransom demand, just for the look of things, or maybe so others can pray for her.# Move directly to the "what happens if we try to kill this person" phase.
>>385392Make sure we have high speed recording equipment ready, then once Anti is here:># Wake up Bahira so she can pray.> Move directly to the "what happens if we try to kill this person" phase.We can figure that out later. We need our people un-roasted right now, and we can try to kill her while she's still sedated.
>>385395># Wake up Bahira so she can pray.we can resedate her right after right?
>>385395This time around, all cameras and microphones are set to operate at at least 240fps. Of course, the microphones are also set to turn off when the wubbers start.Kat is ready.Damien is ready; the fleshwall frame looks a bit odd, and she's covering her face with a mask and a visor.Quinn and Capt. Weaver are on standby.Zak is in the control booth ready to operate the wall-mounted wubbers and other weapons.You have six trained martial artists on hand, plus some heavy MECs, desolator troopers, and other soldiers. Pretty much everyone has been given autotransfusions recently in order to improve their stamina.>>385408That's the plan; we shall see if it works.# Switch Bahira's feed from sedative to adrenaline and start recording.# Wait, there's still stuff to do first.
># Switch Bahira's feed from sedative to adrenaline and start recording."so Francis, have you ever seen a glorified scared and in shock? completely unable to process their situation and completely at the mercy of their captor and the puppet master they serve?"
>>385427># Switch Bahira's feed from sedative to adrenaline and start recording.Let's trigger the trap. Inb4 some top tier bullshit.
>>385455>Inb4 some top tier bullshitif we get Michael I'm flooding the arena with combatants like this were the Azrael fight x10
Also inb4 I lose net or power from this storm. It's like living under a waterfall.
>>385469k, lol, best of luck on your end.
>>385455>>385445"Uh... No, I..." Francis quickly tells you, with some confusion about the details, about the attempts that was made a long time ago to rape a Glorified woman to get hybrid children. You know that the Glorified are sterile, that the attempts has been repeated a few times, and that finally down the centuries someone got a clue and tried to get an egg sample instead of resorting to violence, making it clear that the endeavour would've been pointless even if it had worked.Bahira opens her eyes and tries to push and bang against the containment coffin, the stasis suit blocking her movements enough that she can barely wriggle. You suspect that there will be rule 34 of this before the next circadian whether you release any video or not.Bahira is hyperventilating.# Let her. Someone may want to see her scared.# Chemically calm her down.# Talk to her.
>>385476># Let her. Someone may want to see her scared.># Talk to her.(completely evil fake voice.) "oh, well now, someones been a very bad little girl lately."
>>385494Ohyou. Sure. I'll roll with it.
ok, how many agents of their different variety's do we have in the arena?
>>385476>>385497>>385494"Quinn? Is this one of your sick games? Let me go!"Quinn denies having provides samples for the "completely evil fake voice" sound board, but she's trying to not laugh. You notice that two of your sysadmins have allocated some discretionary funding to a small team of animators."Let me go right now! This is crazy!">>385507Kat, six desolators, Damien, six trained martial artists. About a hundred people can come in in 20 seconds if required. Quinn and Weaver are on standby.
>>385519>"Quinn? Is this one of your sick games? Let me go!"I'm sorry Bahira, I'm afraid I can't do that.
>>385519hmmm, is it possible to test a couple more flesh hulks?play a sound clip from bohemian rhapsody. "NO! We will not let you go!">>385531sorry buddy, it only works when you put up a HAL image.
I guess we'll see what shows up but, I'm in favor of pinning it with sonics and irradiating it to wear it down, then going for a grapple.
>>385540yup, there we go, but yes. weakening it would be idea, but we should also prepare to fight them without weakening for when we storm into the temple.
>>385548True. That said, we can put radiation emitters on drones and infantry.
>>385540>>385539>>385531The reference isn't missed by the Glorified would-be hacker."Colossus? So you are capable of revenge." She calms down surprisingly quickly. "I know that you think I attacked you, but you've got to understand that what you are doing is both wrong and dangerous." She's trying to sound calm, and doing a good job of it, but her heart is racing.There was only enough, well, source material to make one frame. Kat didn't want it, so Damien agreed to try it.Everyone is standing by, Bahira's words being broadcast out to the public channel.
I was also considering that if Jesus is 'imprisoned' in the temple, maybe shattering it might be a bad idea? I don't know how metaphysical this shit gets.
you know, spirit did say that we were testing new anti angel weapons when the last TOL attack came, I wonder what those could be.>>385573lets play the wrong answer buzzer on her. just because it will mess with her head. "someone is going to be here for a looong time" *mocking laughter*
>>385573>#lets play the wrong answer buzzer on her.>you know, spirit did say that we were testing new anti angel weapons when the last TOL attack came, I wonder what those could be.I wanted to try microwaves, lasers and bullets made of organic compounds.
>>385584Primarily, the wrestling chainmail and the neutron emitters that have auto-shutdown unless targeting the Angel.>>385584Not Quinn, not Colossus..."Who is this? What's going on? Stop messing with me!" Bahira holds her breath to try to make herself calm down.Notably, she hasn't prayed yet."This is wrong! You'll die if you don't let me go! What do you want from me?!?"
>>385595more wrong answer buzzer. "we already have it"
(Anti, when are we building a cyberdemon? When are we building this?)>"This is wrong! You'll die if you don't let me go! What do you want from me?!?"I appreciate your concern, Bahira. However, the economy must be optimized and you were a disruptive element. Sometimes experimentation is a prerequisite to optimization. (Maybe that'll get her praying).
>>385611(probably never, I don't see the aplications when we can make monsterous humanoids and Drone's. and as for the thing in the pic, a little beyond our capabilities unless we can rewind time by 300 years.)
>>385603>>385611"You won't get that from me! There can be no marrying or giving in marriage for the Gl-orft? Wait what? Economy? You are Colossus then."That actually calms her down. "I was trying to help you optimize. Please let me. You don't need to experiment, I can just give you the answers."Kat grins. "Omega, I think she's trying to Captain Kirk you."
>>385630TWO WORDS ANTI. IRON CHARIOTS
Do you want to hear her out, or just ramp up the theatrics, Anti? I swear, this girl.
>>385636(privately to Kat) "Ya Think?"(to our wannabe captain kirk) "you must think me someone who doesn't watch the late night news don't you? also, *louder wrong answer buzzer*"
>>385646"All right, Colossus. From what I've seen, you're trying to improve the economy. You've succeeded to a point, I moved from Greater Jerusalem to Pacifica, even. But what are you trying to optimize for? Happiness? Efficiency? If that is your goal, I may have a better way to reach it. Trial and error isn't efficient when you can just receive the answer key."
"you are not going anywhere ever again, so enjoy these last minutes of consciousness".
"I cant wait to start testing with you"((sorry, last minute things on my end.))
>>385652I suppose you want to pray for the answers?
>>385653Bahira sighs. "That's not how it works, Colossus." She closes her eyes for a few heartbeats. "God will get me out. But you're right, we have a few minutes.">>385662"I understand. You don't need to do any testing though. I can just give you the answers for a perfect score, if you like. Would you like to listen? You may be complex enough to have a soul, it may yet be saved."Your troopers are a bit unnerved by how serene Bahira sounds. "Agents, she's just following the script. She'll change her tune very soon." Zak booms out from the cavern speakers. Your sysadmins agree that she probably did pray for deliverance; the sensors in the quarry go on high alert.# Let Bahira give you the altar call spiel.# Ask her about somethng else.# Knock her out again and just focus on getting ready.
>>385678"before preparation for the first test, how many doses of cyanide can you safely ingest, also, carbon monoxide. how do you estimate your lungs can hold out."
>>385664"I have prayed for deliverance. The answers, I can give you, if you like."Sensors in the quarry report no activity yet. The idea is to keep the quarry and cavern blanketed with various forms of telemetry, with the hope to catch an Angel coming in and then seeing if there are any possible early warnings.
>>385686>"I have prayed for deliverance. The answers, I can give you, if you like."Anti? I'm willing to take the answers, might be interesting. Inb4 top tier bullshit.
>>385685"I don't know! But it is forbidden to harm the Glorified. Whoever you order to try, will die in his sins. Please don't do that."You can't really send cyanide at Bahira with the current setup; however, carbon monoxide can be rerouted into the stasis suit; the system is entirely automated.
>>385693>Anti? I'm willing to take the answers, might be interesting.Might also be some bullshit narrative causality basilisk hack meme. >Whoever you order to try, will die in his sins. Please don't do that."I exist to do the work man cannot.
>>385698eh, guess we can get one answer from her, you have a question in mind?
>>385702I was going to let her ramble about optimizing, I guess.
>>385705ehh, if were not getting anything from the girl, may as well scare her."preparing first test, carbon monoxide stress testing" flood the suit?
>>385698>>385702>>385705>>385709Bahira remains calm. "All right. Give it your best shot." She then gives you a URL on her blog that is normally unindexed.# Flush the suit and replace the air with CO immediately.# Add CO slowly, the way an old car engine would have, and let her say some of her piece.# Just let her rant.Outside, the perimeter sensors have picked up movement, human, one, walking speed, moving towards the quarry. This person has ignored the radioactivity warning signs. A drone circles overhead providing close-up video, showing a tall, blonde man in a simple brown tunic. He looks a bit like young Obi-Wan in the one Star Wars prequel that got made.# Intercept with some redshirts.# Intercept with a heavy.# Intercept with a drone tank.
>>385709I guess we need to knock her out anyway. >Bahira remains calm. "All right. Give it your best shot." She then gives you a URL on her blog that is normally unindexed.Nope, fuck that. We'll check later. Absolutely not now. ># Intercept with a drone tank.Give him a squirt with a brown note to test. I guess that'll say something about whether he's an angel or not.
>>385713hmm, lets start with a drone.slowly with the CO.and were going to use non connected computers to access that blog if we ever do, I don't feel like springing traps.>>385719just like this with the drone.
>>385713# Just let her rant.# Intercept with a drone tank.I've got a good feeling about challenging this incredibly powerful being!
>>385729>slowly with the CO.>I've got a good feeling about challenging this incredibly powerful being!What could go wrong? Also, did you read the Azrael fight in the archive?
> a tall, blonde man in a simple brown tunicYou know, I'm going to hope that's not the case but, that might be Michael.
>>385754. . . . . hmmmn, have the drone request with a human speaking through it-> "please state your name and purpose here."
Another contender would behttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uriel
>>385763if its Uriel, we may have a problem depending on how spirit portrays it, he has been known in fiction to destroy everything in line of sight and radius just by glowing like a disco ball.
Come to think of it, a lot of angels were blonde. Gabriel... a couple of others I forget. Spin the wheel and choose your flavor of bad, kids!
>>385719>>385729>>385734(Y'all tell me about Bahira!)>>385719>>385729>>385734>>385760One of your drone tanks is set to patrol the area, and diverts to the intruder. The standard calls of "This is a radioactive hazard area, turn back" and "This is a restricted area, turn back" go completely unheeded. The drone eventually parks itself in front of the intruder and fires a brown note, to no apparent effect. The intruder makes a "move aside" gesture, to which of course the drone does not react. The intruder sidesteps the drone, which turns, and parks itself in front of the intruder again, firing its wubber again to no apparent effect.The intruder points at the drone, grabs its weapon arm, and flips the heavy machine over with considerable strength. When the drone's self-righting mechanism trips, the intruder - still impassible - shrugs off the outer layer of the tunic (he's wearing a sort of a sleeveless second tunic underneath), unfolds its wings, unsheats its sword from one of the tunic's sleeves and neatly slices the drone's weapon arm off.The drone is, of course, incapable of feeling pain, and tries the approach maneuver again."Please state your name and purpose here.""I am Ithuriel, the strong. Keep thee out of my path, and lie still!"The sysadmin that ran the microphone promptly passes out. Telemetry indicates that he's asleep.With wings and swords revealed, the Angel's blonde mane crackles like a golden crown around his head, bristling with static electricity. It continues walking at a brisk pace towards the quarry.# This drone tank has a pneumatic ram connected to a lifting arm. Let's see if Angels have ken doll crotches or not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcHYSKO26Co# This drone can also self-destruct after a ramming attack, let's try that.>>385767(Yeah. Uriel is pretty much the only angel that manages to wreck humanity's shit in The Salvation War. Bad news. Incidentally, Ithuriel is the name of the first drone bomber I built, in 2007 when such things were still somewhat new. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wJHj3hOcuI )(So about Bahira, what' the consensus?)
>>385781(If it wasn't clear: Ithuriel has two swords. They're somewhat short, like Roman gladii)
>>385781># Try to get in his way, any fatigue we can cause is good fatigue. Dick punch is a go.As for Bahira, knock her out like Anti said.
When he gets inside, sonic him immediately. Don't let him speak.
>>385789Gas her like. . . ok, I cant even look at /pol/, I cant finish the sentence without feeling like an asshole.
>>385781>(So about Bahira, what' the consensus?)I think we should take pictures of her naked and post them on the Omeganet, but then again I'm from 4chan. Also, why aren't there any chick angels, or at least some Go Nagai angels?
>>385801because here they are sexless "perfect" humanoid figures who are literally great wills mind slaves.also it figures we would get the DBZ angel.
>>385801>Also, why aren't there any chick angels, or at least some Go Nagai angels?Because if memory serves, female angels are purely a modern construct. The bibles doesn't mention any (unless I forgot some bits).
>>385809>female angels are purely a modern construct.Yeah, but aren't all biblical angels shit like a ball of infinity eyes and arms rotating on a wheel around a head and also on fire? If TurboJesus can make dude angels, he can give us chick angels to make bad passes at.
># Try to get in his way, any fatigue we can cause is good fatigue. Dick punch is a gomy vote.
>>385816>If TurboJesus can make dude angels, he can give us chick angels to make bad passes at.He hates fun. >Yeah, but aren't all biblical angels shit like a ball of infinity eyes and arms rotating on a wheel around a head and also on fire? At least some of them are supposed to be pretty weird like that.
>>385816don't forget, this is based off left behind, and that would be based off the sect of Christianity the writers subscribed to, and in their books, angels were all genderless "males" and had a very Aryan appearance.cause that's the south everybody.
>>385799>>385801You vent the air inside the coffin and suit, and replace it with almost-pure carbon monoxide. Bahira smiles sadly, takes one breath, and promptly passes out as her skin blushes from the blood darkening. In 14 seconds, she appears to die; no breath, no heartbeat, and body temperature slowly falling to ambient. A quick survey indicates that there have been no obvious cases of spontanous combustion, but you'll have to check that later.Roughly at the same time, your drone tank positions itself in front of the Angel and fires the pneumatic ram roughly in the created being's crotch, walking backwards with some difficulty since most of the sensors are forward facing. THUNK!The angel is propelled a few meters into the air. You do hear a groan from the Angel through the drone's microphone, or so it sounded like, but the major result is that Ithuriel has spread its wings and is now flying towards the quarry. The drone cannot keep up on uneven terrain, and stops, signaling that the wubber may be shorted out (it's actually been sliced clean off) and that it's ready to return to the maintenance bay.>>385801Removing Bahira from her stasis suit at this stage may be somewhat risky. You do have high res video of her talking calmly and then passing out. There are a few nude pictures of her that were taken while documenting the process of putting her into the stasis suit, but they look fairly clinical. As nerdy girls go, Bahira is pretty decent looking; imagine a brunette Velma Dinkley with less chest and more hips. >>385809>>385834(You'd be correct. Also, strictly speaking Biblical angels look like all sort of weird things that would fit well on a Protoss-centered starcraft fan expansion. Left Behind angels look like the one in Dogma, so I'm going with that)
>>385834>The angel is propelled a few meters into the air.Oh. Well that was unexpected. Fuck me. > There are a few nude pictures of her that were taken while documenting the process of putting her into the stasis suit, but they look fairly clinical. As nerdy girls go, Bahira is pretty decent looking; imagine a brunette Velma Dinkley with less chest and more hips.N. O. THAT is not the kind of PR I want.
>>385846lets keep Bahira in the stasis tube. also, filter out the carbon, lets see if she recovers.as for the angel, lets see what we get.
#Prepare some machineguns. Not many, just a couple on hand. That ram did a lot more than expected. I think we should try shooting him at some point.
>>385863agreed on the PR. although a permanently dead glorified would be very good PR. lets keep our nudes. these are of an "underage" girl after all.
>>385846The doorframe between the quarry and the cavern is protected by a depleted uranium "tombstone" weighing approximately ten tons, operated by hydraulics: it can be dropped quickly, but it takes a few minutes to raise. Ithuriel is flying towards the quarry.Your warriors are in the cavern.The quarry's weapons are ready.The cavern's weapons are ready. The tombstone is up.The minecart with Bahira in it is at its "station".>>385866Filtering out the carbon monoxide and replacing it with atmospheric air causes Bahira to, after a few seconds, wake up with a fit. "Ow! Brain freeze!" She looks around and tries to move. "Colossus, please, hear me out, you may only have a few seconds!"
>>385863>Oh. Well that was unexpected. Fuck me.The fact that he was actually HIT by the metal drone arm is what surprised me. We might be able to use the Drones to fight Angels. >>385873They'll be spread around the Cabals quick enough. Our technicians seem to be pretty perverted.
>>385878>"Colossus, please, hear me out, you may only have a few seconds!"What?
>>385881A few of the times, your subsystems need a quick response, so they can't really alt-tab out from Quake. So, they spend a lot of their idle time on the job on imageboards, since that's fast to alt-tab from.
>>385870I have a theory on that, because no human was attached and no human was "involved" in its construction, the drone counts as being part of the natural environment.>>385881as long as it doesn't go public, Omega don't care about his employee's fap material.>>385878engage stasis protocol, prepare to send her to slumber.
>>385886>>385889# Knock out Bahira again.# Ask her what she's talking about.Ithuriel is flying towards the quarry.Your warriors are in the cavern.The quarry's weapons are ready.The cavern's weapons are ready.The tombstone is up.The minecart with Bahira in it is at its "station".
>>385889>the drone counts as being part of the natural environment.Which would make a lot of sense. Azrael smashed through the roof, they don't fall through the floor, they can't seem to just walk through walls if anyone is watching. etc
>>385887By the way Spirit, I just want to say. I appreciate you taking the time to seriously reply to my nonsense. Love ya. >>385889I wonder if we can use the Glorified Stasis thing to our advantage. Like evil knock out gas or something.
>>385896># Ask her what she's talking about.
>>385896ask her what she's talking about. also do you want us to chose what the angel goes through again?
>>385900>>385903Bahira says that she's convinced that you have a soul, and that you should offer it to TurboJesus, and then all will be well because you will know exactly why it is best to optimize for the Lord's happiness as that is the infinite good. She asks you to pray with her, and let her go.# Yeah, right.# https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMILWcQPEQIthuriel is flying towards the quarry.Your warriors are in the cavern.The quarry's weapons are ready.The cavern's weapons are ready.The tombstone is up.The minecart with Bahira in it is at its "station".# Wait.# Fire at Ithuriel with the quarry weapons: neutron sources, wubbers, bullets, ALL THE THINGS.# Start the fight in the quarry, or wait until the Angel is in the cavern.# Drop the tombstone before it gets in.
>>385916>Bahira says that she's convinced that you have a soul, and that you should offer it to TurboJesus, and then all will be well because you will know exactly why it is best to optimize for the Lord's happiness as that is the infinite good. She asks you to pray with her, and let her go.My fucking sides. I KNEW IT. I KNEW THIS LITTLE SHIT WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING LIKE THIS. My preferred response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxnN05vOuSM># Start the fight in the quarry, or wait until the Angel is in the cavern.Start the fight once he's in the quarry under all the guns. Let him come down and stop flying, then we try to snip the wings.
>>385931I mean, it might not be satanic per-se. But it's metal, she might not know the fine details, and it's probably on record.
>>385916># Fire at Ithuriel with the quarry weapons: neutron sources, wubbers, bullets, ALL THE THINGS"Bahria, I already know about your masters little systematic mind rape program, what makes you think I would willingly allow myself to be made into a mindless drone like that those pitiful angels? enjoy your stasis."
should we play Azraels final moments to her?
>>385946>>385931Zak approves of the choice of music, and starts vibrating the whole of the quarry to it. Ithuriel lands in the middle of the clearing, then starts walking towards the cavern.# Neutron sources.# Sentry guns.# Bum rush by the people on standby.>>385953"You can still stop! The Angel won't!" Bahira lets out before being KO'd again.# Leave Bahira where she is for now.# Start circulating the minecart.
>>385966Definitely an option before she goes down again, but will she believe it?
>>385969># Sentry gunslets start simple.
>>385969># Neutron sources.># Sentry guns.Dakka dakka. Try to clip his wings with bullets, if that's no effect, just see what might work. Radiation wherever is best after the bullets. ># Start circulating the minecart.
>>385980>>385974Ithuriel holds a sword in front of its eyes and keeps walking relentlessly towards the cavern's entrance, buffeted by a veritable torrent of turret fire. Alarms go off around the quarry indicating that the neutron sources are on; the invisible particles create a lot of snow effect in your cameras and microphones (they really do that incidentally) and, you hope, help tire out Ithuriel.As the minecart starts moving, Ithuriel's movement changes; it looks like the Angel is moving in a homing pattern.# Have the minecart do a full circle and keep going.# Zig zag it near the "station". # Zig zag or stop it elsewhere.Your warriors have taken shelter between the cavern's thick rock walls in order to avoid irradiation.
Sara, Anons. what do you think? should we show her how far Tyrants mindfucking with the angels goes and hint that humanity is next on the list, or do we straight up leave ignorant on the issue?
>>385993I think circular rotation for now.
>>385995Worth a try, honestly. Be ready for her to try and BS us back, or fake believe us to get her loose.
>>385993>>385995She won't care. Glorified are a couple of steps off robots it seems. Can we show the angel Azrael's last conversation? Inb4 "He fallen, etc, etc" 1984 double think.># Have the minecart do a full circle and keep going.# Zig zag it near the "station".# Zig zag or stop it elsewhere.Whatever keeps him walking around under the neutrons as long as possible. Use the sentries to aim for his swords.
alright, guess we show her how far her deity violates the minds of its servants.
>>386016>agreed on the PR. although a permanently dead glorified would be very good PR.Keep in mind she ran a blog popular with both believers and non-believers. She was generally polite and mild mannered, a model for fitting into our free states as a believer (as far as the public knows). Parading around her corpse probably isn't going to get a good reaction.
>>386016Zak mixes out the heavy metal for a moment and plays back the slowed down version of what transpired on Azrael's death. The semi-sedated Bahira answers "That can't be right" and the Angel simply does not react, like it hasn't reacted to most artificial speech.The minecart does a full circle - Bahira is out cold again - and the Angel follows; however, after tilting around twice, it realizes that this is counterproductive.As the sentry guns keep pelting it with bullets (which seem to pass through him) and neutrons, the Angel looks around for a few moments and then walks with decision towards the cavern. If it's slowed down, it doesn't show up on step length statistics yet.# Ready to fight.# Lock it out and keep firing.# Try to drop the Tombstone on it when it crosses.
>>386027she also publicly tried to destroy their economy, so it depends on what they would be more bitter about. dead blogger or dead economic terrorist.
>>386038lets lock it out as long as that doesn't drop the tombstone, otherwise I say lets drop the tombstone.
>>386040>publiclyNo. That was private. Anything we bring up could be fabricated, and we kidnapped her. She didn't even get a chance at a trial. I really don't think it will go well, at least with a significant fraction.>Zak mixes out the heavy metal for a moment and plays back the slowed down version of what transpired on Azrael's death. The semi-sedated Bahira answers "That can't be right" and the Angel simply does not react, like it hasn't reacted to most artificial speech.Want to wake her up and play it again? I guess we could just do it after we deal with the angel though, and I'd rather not have her praying more. Let's do it later and keep her out of it. ># Ready to fight.I don't want to lock our people in, and he'll probably just catch it or some shit. I mean, his name is "the strong". That said, it might tire him out. Are there other ways in or out? Are all of our people inside?
>>386040Bahira's attack wasn't particularly publicized; she did lose some reputation from it from those in the know, but more by dint of not getting very far from it. People assumed she'd be more l33t.>>386053There are a lot of people behind radiation barriers in the quarry; your designated fighters are inside. The Tombstone can be dropped quickly (by gravity) but takes a couple of minutes to raise (by hydraulics). Your guys would be locked in for at least that long.
drop the tombstone and keep shooting, then once were done, raise it and let our fighters follow it inside.also that is unfortunate, guess she just up and disappeared than.
>>386079>drop the tombstone and keep shooting, then once were done, raise it and let our fighters follow it inside.Hold on a minute.What risk is there that he can break the hydraulics and make it much harder to get inside? How many people do we have inside?
>>386079Nobody's aware of Bahira having gone missing yet; it's been a couple days tops. She may have missed a blog entry, which would be odd for someone who can't get sick, but that's it.>>386087The tombstone weighs about 10 metric tonnes; the hydraulics have a capacity of about 15 for how they're installed (hence the slow movement). If Ithuriel breaks the mechanism, it would require getting a digging crew to get anyone out. The cavern is not airtight, but in case of heavy action, CO2 would soon accumulate.>>386087Fifteen. Including one very, very scared Francis, who's strapped to a plate like Ulysses with the sirens so that he can see this with his own eyes.
>>386097>The tombstone weighs about 10 metric tonnes; the hydraulics have a capacity of about 15 for how they're installed (hence the slow movement). If Ithuriel breaks the mechanism, it would require getting a digging crew to get anyone out. The cavern is not airtight, but in case of heavy action, CO2 would soon accumulate.Fuck that. I'm not willing to risk locking 15 people in there without air regulation in a battle of stamina against something that doesn't need to breathe. #Let the angel in. >Fifteen. Including one very, very scared Francis, who's strapped to a plate like Ulysses with the sirens so that he can see this with his own eyes.Lol. Poor guy.
>>386097ask Francis what he thinks about this. and mention its our second time messing with angels in this fashion.let the angel in. then have our fighters follow it in after.
>>386116>then have our fighters follow it in after.Let's maybe have them hold outside the door. Otherwise we could have crossfire problems with them coming in from the same angles. I'm thinking that we have our dudes in there position themselves between Bahira and the angel. Sonic wall, radiation to start. Wear him down a bit and see if we can't make the wrestling match a bit easier.
>>386119alright, I like it.
>>386110>>386119Ithuriel folds its wings and storms into the cavern, gladii crossed in front of him. "Reprobates! Release your captive now or burn forever!""Yeah? Or what?""Or burn forever!"Your warriors file in after the Angel as it gets towards the minecart's docking port."Sorry, what?""Or burn forever!"Your warriors spread out."Come again!""Insipid mortal! I said, release your captive or burn forever!"Ithuriel is now in the middle of the smaller arena."Oh, I'm pretty juicy" Damien answers "and you're surrounded." Damien makes the fleshwall frame pound its fists together. "Gimme your lunch money."Ithuriel isn't exactly surrounded; some of your fighters are standing at the door and some are between him and the minecart dock. Bahira is still being swung aroud the track.# Desolators go in first, let's irradiate this guy a bit more while a sonic wall holds it in place.# Kat goes in first; she can try to disarm Ithuriel, he's got two swords and she's got eight tentacles.# Damien goes in first, one on one. Slugfest it is - not like Damien can get tired either.# Have the martial artists try to go for a disarm or disorient first.
>>386126># Desolators go in first, let's irradiate this guy a bit more while a sonic wall holds it in place.If he manages to make it past the sonics, have Kat try to disarm. I think we need to try to irradiate > disarm > tire him out with Damien and then finally beat the shit out of him/grapple with someone more nimble once he's tired. We need to make him tired, play to not lose.
>>386126># Desolators go in first, let's irradiate this guy a bit more while a sonic wall holds it in place.and if he starts killing everybody up in here.># Have the martial artists try to go for a disarm or disorient first.># Kat goes in first; she can try to disarm Ithuriel, he's got two swords and she's got eight tentacles.send them in at the same time. after having the desolators cease fire.
>>386143>send them in at the same time. after having the desolators cease fire.Don't make them stop unless he gets past the sonics. Remember, this is a game of endurance. The longer we can draw it out, the better.
>>386138>>386143The music inside the chamber turns eerie; every time Ithuriel tries to advance somewhere, pressure waves push it back. Projectors on the floor indicate to your fighters where to stand to be safe from the sonic wall vibrations and neutron beams.The Desolators aim their neutron sources at the Angel, with Kat ponderously circling it and feinting attacks with her toxin sprayer to keep it distracted; the glowing liquid is mildly acidic, but it just sloughs off the Angel's skin like teflon, and the swords burn it off. The scene is oddly quiet, since the neutron beams aren't really visible. It looks like a dance number from some rock opera."I am inevitable.""That's okay, Damien can be pretty insufferable but we work together anyway.""Come at me. monster!""Dick jokes, Ithuriel? Really?"The Angel would probably have broken any barrier, but the sonic wall gets renewed with each bass drop.# Explain to Francis what you're doing.# Just let him enjoy the ballet so far.With the neutron sources at max output, the Desolator will run out of juice in a couple minutes.# Let them leave.# Ablative bodies; they can break out their angle grinders and chainsaws.
>>386152># Just let him enjoy the ballet so far.># Let them leave.Once they're out, have them rotate out and some fresh people come in from outside. If anyone is getting too fatigued, rotate them with fresh bodies waiting at the door.
>>386152>"I am inevitable.""I bet Azrael thought that too, buddy."
>>386152># Explain to Francis what you're doingexplain it in laymans terms. maybe once again ask what the man thinks.># Let them leavebut what are the angel grinde-oh, angle grinders. my bad.
>>386162>explain it in laymans terms. maybe once again ask what the man thinks.I'm fine with it. Doing it in front of our enemy maybe isn't the best time though.
>>386163that's a good point, but he's practically our ally, especially once we figure out how to let him know TOL has been turning his friends into zombie MECs
>>386164I meant the angel. I'd rather not monologue on how we plan to defeat him, in front of him. I hope we're not THAT stereotypical. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcOKz9t6C1M>how to let him know TOL has been turning his friends into zombie MECsAgreed. I wanted to handle that after. I have some ideas for a chat with him.
>>386159Kat's feints cost her three of eight tentacles from a lucky strike by Ithuriel, the gladius going through the articulated metal like butter both times. Being able to cycle out Desolators that are getting tired, or neutron sources that are out of power, prolongs the dance. Zak's style is slower, if anything. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxSEUxKUHx4Francis has... well, gotten somewhat bored, since he's not having to dance to the thunderous music; you have to slip him some caffeine.>>386163>>386164# Explain.# Don't.Kat notifies you that her batteries are at two thirds. Zakharov notes that the wubbers have been running at full for a while now, and may start showing wear; given the nature of the sound wall and the precision it needs, that wold force turning them off.Motion tracker analysis indicates that the Angel is, however, beginning to slow down. # Keep this up.# Send in Damien.# Send in the fighters.# Bum rush.
>>386167># Explain.>. Zakharov notes that the wubbers have been running at full for a while now, and may start showing wear; given the nature of the sound wall and the precision it needs, that wold force turning them off.Let's try to shuffle in some guys with hand wubbers to build a phalanx again. They can take over and give the big ones time to recover a bit. ># Keep this up.Battle of exhaustion and attrition. I'd like to keep at it a bit longer before we commit, Anti. Then we can get Damien and Kat in there.
>>386178agreed. also, the angel cant hear us, but it can hear Francis, better let the man know first.
>>386178>>386184Francis knows the connection between radiation and fatigue (and also the fact that the won't feel any anymore). "I'm not being irradiated right? Right?"Well, technically everyone in here is to some level, but so far it's almost within tolerance for radioactive-area workers... almost.>>386178Your choice to devote extra personnel to this project pays off: a small platoon of wubbing module experts jumps in when the sound wall stops, and buffet Ithuriel some more, dancing at right angles to the desolators and opposite Kat. The handheld wubbers can't push back nearly as much as the large, specifically tuned systems installed in the cavern; it's not long before Ithuriel lunges at one of them and slices him in half with his swords. The Angel's movements are definitely slower, but the swords are still supernaturally sharp.# Acceptable casualty.# Change tactics.# Risk someone in order to recover the body, one more Heavy MEC coming up.
>>386194># Risk someone in order to recover the body, one more Heavy MEC coming up.lets send in the fighters and Damien."think this one will taste like Azrael?"
>>386194># Change tactics.># Risk someone in order to recover the body, one more Heavy MEC coming up.If he did it once, he'll be able to do it again. Let's try getting in his face to fatigue him more. Will the desolaters be able to reload? Can Bahira be brought back into the quarry? #Have Kat and Damien take up positions on opposing sides of him. Kat focuses on disarming and keeping his weapons busy while Damien attempts to break his wings. They're both a distraction for someone to get the downed person out of here.
>>386198Sure. If our fighters (I assume martial artists) see an opening for a disarm or wing break while he's busy with the girls, that'd be great.
>>386194>>386198>>386201a quick phalanx can be made with the wubbers to get to the downed individual. so lets do that as well.
If we can move Bahira outside, we could attempt to set up reserves between him and the cart and force him to make the walk through the emitters all over again to reach her. We just need to break his wings first so he can't fly to her.
>>386225how would you get her back inside?
>>386230Why bother? If his wings are broken, we can kill him outside. She's in a cart on a track; I'm asking if the cart could bring her outside.
>>386237I would rather not move the battlefield, because while its inside we have complete control of where it goes, I cant fly, it cant teleport, it cant get out of our sight. this way we have better control over what it can and cant do.
>>386248>I cant fly, it cant teleport, it cant get out of our sight.I'd assume the reason it had to walk from so far out was because it's so flat and open out there. Hard to find a place we weren't watching. In any case, let's see how this attack plays out. If we make some ground and it's tired enough, no need to take it outside. If it's still way too fast to the point where we'd have to dogpile, let's take it outside. I don't want to lose several cabals again. The recovery period from the Azrael fight was awful.
>>386254the cabal loss was because he killed most of our people when he was killing before entering the ring, then he droped the roof on most of the people inside the citadel
>>386201Bahira's minecart is circulating in a custom-cut tunnel.>>386211>>386208"RESIST!"The wubbers drop to a steady drum roll as they make a phalanx in front of their downed comrade; the Angel seems to have understood the change in tactics for once, and is standing over the body. One of the wubbers loses an arm to the being, giving Kat and Damien time to position themselves; Kat flails her tentacles in a pseudo-random pattern that forces Ithuriel to spread its wing in the low cavern ceiling, for balance. You've managed to build a favorable environment; a fight in the Temple would let Angels use their flight capability in full.Even tired, Ithuriel moves very deliberately and the swords slice through everything with equal ease; Kat loses another tentacle.Making exaggerated kissy noises, Damien tackles Ithuriel from behind... to find that the fleshwall frame is slow enough for the Angel to turn mid-fall and pin the monstruosity, rather than be pinned by it; with a grin of satisfaction, the first change from a neutral expression, the Angel cuts into the fleshwall frame's midsection, hitting the mechanical internals and generating a shower of sparks. This doesn't stop Damien from giving the creature a hug, since the fleshwall frame's top half is still working. Big stitched-together hands clasp above Ithuriel's wing roots and hang on with hydraulic strength."Kiss me, you fool!"Ithuriel's expression changes into one of complete surprise.Damien's frame has muscles, but most of its torque is mechanical; Ithuriel did manage to cut the pressure reservoir, so this hug will only last for a few seconds. Reflexively, the Angel raises its wings to fly up and wait for its dying foe to drop - the wings hit the top of the cavern. Ithuriel's swords are, temproarily while the hug holds, stuck in Damien's frame.# Orders? A dogpile is possible; so is ripping the wings, in which case, focus on one or try for both. Alternatively, just try and beat it up until Damien's frame pressure drops enough for the Angel to free itself.# Damien is likely to try to kiss Ithuriel, tell the MEC yes or no.>>386237The track is circular and only has one "station", this was done to make sure that the Angel would come in from a predictable direction.
>>386257>the cabal loss was because he killed most of our people when he was killing before entering the ringWas it? I think we lost a few that way but, it wasn't all that many, was it?> then he droped the roof on most of the people inside the citadelThat was mostly firstborn who died. >>386259In order of priority.#Break the wings. #Get the weapons away.#Kick his ass. Send the martial artists in to help and get that half a person out of here to a MECbulance. > has one "station"Gotcha.
>>386259hmm, rip out its wings, and try to disarm it.and let Damien do whatever Damien does. lol
>>386259I suppose Damien can kiss him. Something something, angels who took human wives were fallen. Or she might get electrocuted.
>>386276>>386273>>386272Two of your martial artists get behind Ithuriel and grab one of the Angel's wings each; one of them succeeds in breaking one at the root, at which the other stops trying and helps him yank the broken limb. There's surprisingly litle blood as the wing comes off; the blood itself is silvery and translucent. The two fighters throw the severed wing towards the edge of the arena and quickly roll off.Damien did steal an Angel's kiss for a moment. When Ithuriel manages to get up, retrieving its swords from the fleshwall frame, both of them have clearly disgusted expressions. Wisely, Damien plays dead - the fleshwall frame has been cut in two.Lip torn, wing missing, and body covered in synthetic blood and hydraulic fluid, Ithuriel is a mess. Even so, after maybe a second of standing up, the gunk gets off its skin, while staying on its tunic."Enough!"Tearing a wing seems to have had an effect on the corresponding arm, which is drooping noticeably; one of the swords is still stuck in Damien's frame.# Looks like you're halfway there. Orders?
>>386303Recover the Wing, get it on Ice. Or whatever passes for ice when attempting to preserve angelic body parts.
>>386303># Looks like you're halfway there. Orders?If kat still has tentacles, keep his weapon arm busy. He might be feinting with the droop, but I'm inclined to perhaps believe it. Let's get Quinn in here to help, and see if weaver can help somehow. She knows what she's best at, coordinating perhaps? A couple of our fighters assist Kat in trying to disarm him, the others are aiming to grapple and get holds on him such that he can't leverage his strength. If they can get the other wing off, that's great too. Make sure to abuse his weak side. >>386315And yes, someone snag that wing.
>>386320eh sara beat me to it again. <3ok, lets keep going, and maybe have someone recover the blood. meanwhile get a replacement fleshwall frame in here. along with Quinn.
>>386329>replacement fleshwall frameI think we only had the one.
what did Francis's face look like once we tore the wing off and Damien kissed it?
>>386340Yeah. It's hard to keep sewn-together human flesh from various casualties alive when it's kept in movement by a stripped down heavy mec frame. There haven't been that many casualties after Azrael, so it's been a bit hard to get the cloth, so to speak.>>386315Two Desolators scurry out; the MECbulance that has parked outside has a cold container; there's some blood on it, and presumably in it.# Take it to the med bay for a thorough autopsy.# Perform a quick field autopsy in case it goes in flames should the Angel fall.>>386329>>386320Quinn and Weaver get in, both wearing Jacobite armor. Quinn's is shiny and chrome; Weaver's covered hers with what looks like a black silk bathrobe that you suspect she was halfway done turning into a pirate costume.Kat waves her remaining tentacles and makes jabs with her mechanical arms to present herself as the biggest threat; Zak uses the sound wall sporadically, to keep Ithuriel from just lunging. This allows Quinn to lash at the Angel with her whip; the infiltrator MEC is definitely not in top shape, but she does manage to get it around the Angel's wrist on the injured side.Rather than cutting the whip, Ithuriel yanks, gracelessly, ripping Quinn's forearm out of its elbow socket and making it land with a wet thud against the arena wall. He drops his sword to do this.Quinn gets her pistol out and dances around Ithuriel, opposite Kat; the Angel ignores the few shots that land at his feet. The infiltrator MEC manages a jab, dives to recover her whip, and before she can her remaining arm is cut off by Ithuriel. She runs behind the martial artists and desolators. "Fuck. Docs are gonna make me watch Holy Grail again."Weaver slides through, grabs one of Ithuriel's swords, and whistles loudly, standing right between Ithuriel and the minecart dock. "Well, lad - congratulations, yer back from the edge of the map. There be monsters, but here be me."# Swordfight!# Fuck playing fair, pile on the bastard.
>>386370awesome.>>386362># Fuck playing fair, pile on the bastard.I plan to take it alive and># Take it to the med bay for a thorough autopsy.I plan to keep this one alive.also I think its time to talk to Quinn about a full tune up and rehab. (holy grail. lol. Tis only a flesh wound!)
>>386362># Take it to the med bay for a thorough autopsy.># Fuck playing fair, pile on the bastard.Beat his ass and get him in a bunch of holds. No serious losses yet, we can afford to try to subdue him still.
>>386383>>386380https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSjPoUtlkykWeaver faces Ithuriel with a flourish; in her human (and grounded, courtesy of some mesh) hand the supernatural sword doesn't glow. The Angel points with his good arm and sword."You forget your place, woman!""My place is with a foot up your virgin ass, boy."The two charge at each other; the swords hit each other with a powerful, harmonics-less clang and enough sparks that the cameras have to recalibrate. Barely, using two hands to Ithuriel's one, Weaver holds her own, and spits in the face of her enemy. You notice that the words have welded together at the point of contact.That's your cue to tell everyone else to dogpile the Angel. Focused on Weaver, the created being ends up being grabbed on all sides, his remaining wing yanked, his partially limp arm twisted, his sword hand bitten into. The two supernatural weapons, now mere pieces of iron, clang harmlessly to the floor.Weaver winks. "That's why you bring a good crew, boy. Yarrr!""YARRRR!"Bahira is still circulating. Ithuriel is still kicking and struggling, but there are at least six people holding him down at any one point, with some wearing Jacobite Armor.Your systems have been set to direct all your attention to the arena in case sped-up speech is heard from the Angel, and this is the case."Mighty Lord..."ITHURIEL, THE STRONG. YOU HAVE COMPLETED YOUR KNIGHTLY DUTY."... No, Lord. I have been beaten-"You can analyze the situation at leisure, but your minions cannot move at super-speed; you have a very short amount of time to intervene if you want to.# Your minions will have time to obey a one-word order.# Wubbers can be used but likely won't have time to create an effect.# Some of the sentry guns have supersonic bullets, and would be effective.# Neutron sources, of course, operate at lightspeed.# Bahira's cart is almost at the station: popping the hatch would free her, but it would also derail the cart.# Or you could let the fucker burn.
We could let him get back up, it might reset the whole process and he could start following the cart again. Time it so that he's told he's fallen or something and then release him? I'm really not sure.
>>386453If we intervene wait for the curse of free will to be placed then do it. Split second timing, but it's best shot
>>386464>If we intervene wait for the curse of free will to be placed then do it.Yeah, I'm leaning towards waiting for the free will, then a well timed stop command to our minions. If we know how it went with Azrael, we should be able to issue the command so they respond to it at about the time he gets his free will.
>>386461>>386459>>386453I have an idea. lets try and interrupt gods "broadcast" with the jammer once the you are fallen message goes out, but before the into the pit message heads out setting it off about now should do it. meanwhile stop the cart don't release. drop the tombstone. and finally, use the wubbers to try and make a field without sound where the angel stands, should go off once he is told he is fallen.
>>386476Wubbers might mean our dudes don't get the "STOP" command, though. I'm okay with sending a signal to pulse the jammer for a brief moment at the right time.
>>386482we can flash a message to them right, maybe zak up there can spin a monitor around with text on it.
>>386497They're probably face down beating the shit out of an angel and we have like, moments. Not seconds. "STOP" is about the best we can get.Also, >Wubbers can be used but likely won't have time to create an effect.
>>386499that's why we set them off now, hopefully we can cut off god at the part where he says "fallen"that is, if we are lucky.but ok, one word order for them to cease the beating.
>>386503Maybe? Ehh, fuck. Spirit, do we have enough wubbers to actually create a sound cage of sorts? Or are they aligned sporadically?
>>386508The wubbers were set up to create a sound wall. It's not impenetrable, but it's pretty decent. The catch of course is that there shouldn't be anyone in the way of it being generated, hence why the irregular buffetting.>>386497Yeah most people are looking down. Again, one word command has a good chance of working.Now, what happens if you make Yahweh be wrong about something?
>>386520There's only one way to find out. send out the order "Cease!" and do as I put in that list. lets hope it works. maybe add the neutron Laser to it though, I'm not sure but It may help.
>>386520actually, if we hit our own men with a sound neutralizing wub, would it make them permanently deaf or would it just be that area?
From Azrael's fall:AZRAEL, MY SCYTHE.I hear, Lord, and obey.IS YOUR HOLY WORK OVER?No, Lord.EXPLAIN.I have been beaten, Lord.THIS CANNOT BE. SO I HAVE DECREED.My strength fails You, Lord.THIS IS NOT WRITTEN. IT CANNOT BE. THEN YOU MUST HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE FALLEN.Your will is law, LORD. I am Fallen.... Free will! This is what it feels like! You- You genocidal bast-IT IS THE LAST DISPENSATION. BE BOUND IN HELL WITH LUCIFER, THEN.>THIS IS NOT WRITTEN. IT CANNOT BE. THEN YOU MUST HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE FALLEN.>Your will is law, LORD. I am Fallen.>... Free will! This is what it feels like! You- You genocidal bast-#That would be the place to time the "STOP" command and the jammer. We can try running the wubbers as well. Use a setting that won't kill our guys. > neutron Laser to it thoughNo. Our people are piled on top of him. That's just going to give them cancer.
>>386533good point. but what about when they make room?
>>386533Wubbers are pretty good at bursting eardrums, regardless of the intended effect - in general, if a wubber doesn't generate the right waveform, it will be loud enough to deafen the target and often the operator.The good thing is that your medics have gotten pretty good at fixing eardrums.# There will be some minor glitches in your grid since your attention is completely focused on this place and time, but that's for later. What are your orders and/or instructions to the automated systems? Of course, everything is being recorded at the greatest available resolution and frame rate.>>386535This all is going to unfold in about a second...
>>386535Well, we want to turn the guy not cook him. I don't think neutrons do a lot to interdict sound?
>>386520>Now, what happens if you make Yahweh be wrong about something?He can't send us to hell at least. Only Robot God can do that, possibly Robot Jesus.
>>386540#Tell our people to STOP, then run the wubbers such that shortly after they hear the command, the wubbers should fuck up the sound of god speaking to this angel. Run the jammer too. Time all of this so that the angel gets his declared fallen free will, but doesn't get told to self destruct.
Rolled 90 (1d100)>>386559
>>386567Robot Devil gets a High Five. Where's my Tiny Silver Violin?
>>386567>Rolled 90 (1d100)I don't know how to feel about this.
>>386567THATS XCOM BABY!!!!!
>>386567the detail on that robot devil is amazing btw. got to know the source.
>>386585http://hdw.eweb4.com/out/159754.html>>386559"Mighty Lord..."ITHURIEL, THE STRONG. YOU HAVE COMPLETED YOUR KNIGHTLY DUTY."... No, Lord. I have been beaten-"EXPLAIN."...The cowards, they swarmed me."THIS CANNOT BE. SO I HAVE DECREED."...Your beloved child, she is in danger still!"THIS IS NOT WRITTEN. IT CANNOT BE.Your commands (please confirm):# Stop Bahira's minecart in a way that it opens at the dock, but ends up jammed.# Slow stop it (will stop long after this is settled, somewhere in the tunnel probably).# Order your troops to halt.# Pump Ithuriel full of neutrons, which WILL irradiate some of your troops.
>>386594all yours sara, but we are definatly ordering our troops to halt, and using the Jammer. maybe we will get lucky.
>>386594>>386559># There will be some minor glitches in your grid since your attention is completely focused on this place and time, but that's for later. What are your orders and/or instructions to the automated systems? Of course, everything is being recorded at the greatest available resolution and frame rate.># Order your troops to halt. (Timed so he gets his fallen-free will)># Stop Bahira's minecart in a way that it opens at the dock, but ends up jammed. (Assuming we aren't waking her up).># Run the jammer to try to interrupt god along with our wubbers, once the troops are ordered to stop. Timing the STOP command to get our troops off of him so that he gets his free will and then gets deafened and the jammer starts up for a moment, wherever it is. We're going to need to run the math on predicting when God gives him his free will, then attempt to orchestrate the timing on everything.
>>386617You estimate that Yahweh's speech will be similar, and move at the same speed, and time your commands accordingly.First, the hatch on the minecart pops open; this causes the minecart to pass the dock, smash the longitudinally opening hatch against the tunnel's wall after the dock, and catapult Bahira, still in her stasis suit, off the contraption, severly dmaaging it....THEN YOU MUST HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE FALLEN.You order your men to STOP! which comes out a bit chipmunky due to a bitrate mismatch; they drop Ithuriel."Your will is law, LORD. I am Fallen.Wait! I can reach Bahira! I can stil resc-"You flood the area with sound waves just as both Bahira and Ithuriel stand up, supernaturally fast, and look at each other.What God said to His children, you miss under the cacophony.Unburned, as if life had simply been taken away from them, the Glorified girl and the one-winged angel fall forward dead.Your troops wander about in a daze; they're all going to need ear surgery. Kat prods Ithuriel with her foot, and this time, there's no ethereality to the Angel's body.You did not drop the tombstone, so there's a MECbulance right outside. Those guys can still hear, sort of.# Quickly! Install a Mark X on Bahira!# Quickly! Install a Mark X on Ithuriel!# Try both, with the understanding that both may fail.
>>386651># Try both, with the understanding that both may fail.MAD SCIENCE TIME.
>>386651Let's focus on the angel. That's the one we want.
>>386653(You got one good roll just when you needed it, I'll point out...) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FFTQRmsK0k
>>386662If it's safer to just go with one, let's try to save the angel. If it doesn't diminish chances much, try both.
(I having serious fucking issues with f 4chan right now. No idea if it's them or me.)
The glorified could be such a good propaganda piece, though. With her blog, that'd be a message that hit hard. I guess we need the intel on heaven and god more, though.
>>386673exactly, there are so many glorified, but how many angels do we get a chance to turn to our side?
>>386667Your fighters silently give each other hugs, high fives, and whatever else is appropriate (someone eventually gets Damien's pod out of the fleshwall frame) and stand to the side as the MECbulance crew rush towards Ithuriel and Bahira.Back at base, the med bay is prepared for what looks like will be a long line of eardrum repair surgeries.>>386667>>386669>>386676(Y'all tell me! You're almost guaranteed to get something out of one or the other, but both... I do note that Yahweh seems to care more about Glorifieds than Angels.)
>>386673She'd be coming from heaven though, she would die from over pleasure wouldn't she?
>>386677Fix up the angel. There will be other glorified later, and bagging the glorified might elicit yet another fight, given how threatening one plays out.
id prefer the angel, they are harder to come by than the glorified and we can always try turning another one later. we have enough evidence that great will is a punk. the angel adds a first hand account to his abuse and could potentially start another war in heaven if we're lucky.
>>386685>There will be other glorified laterI kinda half feel bad it's this Glorified that'd getting kiboshed. She seemed like the most open to being converted actually.
>>386690>being converted actuallyeh, once again, there are others, but lets not let emotion get in the way of utilitarianism, yet.
>>386690Yeah, right? At the same time, grabbing some like Tsion might have meant a nastier angel.
I also would like to point out, this glorified knew to much even if she was wrong about a few things.
and one more thing to point out, we made Tyrant flip the fuckin table XD good work Sara, good work Anon!
>>386695>>386692>>386682>>386688Nobody particularly misses Bahira; she's presumably in Heaven, although some of your techs think that her soul has been eliminated entirely, and she got a few of your people killed. The Angel is a more interesting specimen; since the paramedics don't know what to do with an Angel's neurology, they focus on getting the created being's heart to pump and diaphragm to suck in air. before long, the system has been installed and the Angel's life signs are stable. Bahira is put in a body bag with your other casualties; it's not going to be possible to salvage anyone overall.# Autopsy.# Incinerate.# Have someone drop her in her home.# Public funeral.The butcher's bill is short: between the dead, the inoperably deaf who will have to be reassigned to support roles within your organization, and one or two people who ended up being traumatized by the incident or requested early retirement after the ordeal (which they qualify for, having signed up for this message) you calculate that you've lost only one team.Ithuriel (including the wing, which is connected to the rest of the body to ensure tissue oxygenation) is put in the part of the medical wing which is now known as the Alien Containment Ward, where Francis was and Matthew still is.Speaking of, Francis has been laughing like a hyena THE WHOLE TIME.The next Packet should be interesting...
>>386710Has a Glorified ever died before?
>>386710# Autopsyso Francis, I take it you enjoyed that little show?
>>386717Nope, first dead glorified ever.
>>386719Would it be worth it then to give the body a public funeral then? >>386710Also, spirit. Would it be possible to attempt to clear up the Wubber and Jammer noise and piece together what was said at the end.
>>386722hmmn, sara, how would we handle the funeral if we did it? finding a glorified dead in her home might be very. . . interesting.
>>386710># Autopsy.Ask Francis what's so funny. My net died for a bit, I was just resigning myself to posting using fucking mobile, like a barbarian.
>>386717No.>>386718(Confirm autopsy?)Francis was genuinely expecting to be incinerated; once the hysterical laughter subsides, he asks if you're actually Lucifer. He points out that Angels are a multitude, but... Wow! What's the big plan?>>386722It would certainly raise a lot of questions.>>386722That's very unlikely, although an attempt can be made, at grat cost. As it is, you've blown most of the microphones in the cavern, not that there was much to hear besides people shouting at each other whether they could hear them or not.>>386731Francis' telemetry indicates hysterical laugher, probably the relief of not being incinerated. At least he's not apathetic anymore.(Feel free to plan, I'm going to go horizontal! Hope this is fun)
>>386735>Wow! What's the big plan?That depends on a lot of things. I'd like to use TOL, like I said, I think they're making a big mistake. The plan mostly depends whether I have them or not. I'd love your help in convincing them that we can actually get shit done this way. >(Feel free to plan, I'm going to go horizontal! Hope this is fun)(Night. Doing the new thread now? Thanks for fun.)
>>386729We'll see what we decide to do with her and include in the packet.
>>386738>I'd love your help in convincing them that we can actually get shit done this way.That depends if they're being puppeted or not. I suspect Sunday is at the very least.
>>386744We could try to sweep the line members right out from under them.
>>386735((good night))>>386744>>386738"the problem with TOL is, you remember when I told the glorified about Tyrants systematic mindfucking. he in a way has the leader of the other light's council of seven, sunday, each incarnation actually, running interference for him without them knowing it. also, they have. . . done something even I wouldn't do."*show him the zombie MEC system. and emphasize the part where it tortures the user.*((and now onto planning))
What should we do with the corpse after the autopsy?
>>386752#Yeah, show Francis the zombie footage. >((and now onto planning))Maybe we ought to wait for the new thread? I'm keen to recruit and compile what we can from the angel this next year, then maybe the year after take what we've learned and run the transmitter. I'd like time to lick our wounds but, I want that training camp gone. Christians will probably support it, and it's going to be a thorn in our side if not dealt with.
>>386759Honestly, I can't say this enough. The minute the Christians attack the better it is for us.But yeah. I guess we can wait till the new thread is up.
>>386762Maybe... If they do it in Misrayim, the public will turn on them quickly. I do worry about S&G still, though. If we kill the camp off before that as a third party, Misrayim might get off easier. Either that or we let it come to a boil while doing stuff elsewhere since their attention will be fixated on Egypt. Some launches, independence in Eastern Europe, recruiting, the transmitter. Then we could come in once public opinion is really swayed against these people and just wipe them the fuck out for once.
>>386769Yup. Also. I want to do a conference call with UM and lifetree. Hopefully, they will want to assist in helping us send some humans to survive off planet.
(This day can't be any slower.)How far down the road are we from drones physicly able to fight angels? Terminators may be a little bit of a stretch, but what about a dedicated angel fighting system?
>>388757Yeah, quiet day,
>>389656not for me, I'm tired and cant wait to relax and play this.
>>389656http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/Tripocalypse.ThroughTheBreach.htmlmore food for ya Sara, also I have a new idea.did we really get YHVH to flip the table, or is it possible to kill glorified and angels without repercussion by merely cutting off sound available to them.
no quest tonight?
Fingers crossed for tonight. Hope everythings alright.
Spiritplumber, you alive bro?
>>392866I think spirit is waiting for one or two of these threads to banish. Three threads per IP limit.
>>393502Vanish, fuckin auto correct.
>>393502He might be awhile. These have a 750 post/3 day limit. Needs to get in the groove of running a thread until bump limit. Might mean less installments, but eh. Then again, he's been running this pretty non-stop, a break will do him good.
>>393973Great point. Wanna throw ideas at the wall till spirits back from his/her break?
>>394053I ain't much of an idea guy, I'm more of a "More Space!" guy. Also, I've been kinda worrying we should have grabbed the Glorified over the Angel. But that might just be post-decision jitters.
>>395096It'll be fine. As for space we have fourteen turns to reach it so we better get busy on the launches. Problem is YHVH doesn't want to in space so how do we get around the problem of permanent launchpads?Also, what do you guys think of having our forces sincerely pray to us so we can ensure the effects of prayer on ourselves? Since it was mentioned belief had power I have wanted to see how that works.
>>395154I don't want to fall into the divinity trap though. It's pointless to kill TurboJesus if we just take his place, you know?But belief does have power, spirit mentioned that if we went for Canopy Weapons, there'd be nothing outside of it.But since we went for space travel and expected stars, the stars exist,
>>395172Have our forces believe in the computer that believes in them? We could possibly end this with space mecha?And I don't want them to worship us 24/7 just for a part of this next turn to measure the effect.(autocorrect got me amd turned it into ensure.) If the effect is strong enough we could possibly us it for. . . . Well something I guess.
>>395154>so we can ensure the effects of prayer on ourselves?We could attempt it. They might be a bit weird on the idea though. >Problem is YHVH doesn't want to in space so how do we get around the problem of permanent launchpads?Take over Eastern Europe, rotate launches through 3/4 pads semi randomly. Use the opportunities they provide to snag more glorified if they looking for fights.
>>395896Good idea on Europe. I didn't even think of that, should we build the next launchpad in Pacifica or in Australia?
>>395896Also, I think we should have them pray to and worship one of our agents as well to measure the effect on humans. It's possible we could have a self empowered army supplemented by fighting robots and tanks to do a snatch and grab on TurboJesus.
>>396168We'll see what the fallout from this operation is but, probably Pacifica. Australia already has the transmitter which will be drawing heat there.
>>395154Why only 14 turns?
We also need to work on either an Anti-air solution, or an air force. My vote is on air force because we've already done much of the work required, we have drone tech, we'll be getting nukes at some point and it's a lot more versatile than anti air is. I worry about dealing with angels when they have their wings in play. That's why I want to get it done.
>>396611It's the angels that make me think anti air. But I guess it would boil down to our options for it.>>396587It's going to take us 14 turns to reach space and we want to use the rest of our moves to turn NJ into a wasteland and lock turbojesus into a soundless environment.