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Welcome to Adventure Civ Medieval!

In this quest, you will help a medieval realm strive and grow as trouble arises and other nations work on their own agendas.

Last time, the tree people got divided between the traditionalist elf governement and the socialist equalitarian rebel movement.


how to play:
1) choose a realm to play for. change your name to reflect your choice (ex: Bowtie Noble). Max 4 players per realm.
2)each turn, your realm has 2 actions. You can choose a cultural, technological, or immediate acion, plus one bonus action based on your realms' bonus action(if your realm has a bonus tech action, you can do any action one time per turn, plus a tech action).
3)discuss with your compatriots which actions you will take. Once you're done, reply to my recap anchor post with the recap of your actions.

twitter: @Opee_Adventures
previous threads: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=opee
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>>373162
Bowties are here
https://youtu.be/r3ubLOKbx-Y
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>>373162
Finally its back, the coppers are here
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>>373162
Alright, loyal trees here. Let's get this rebellion crushed.
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Sunbros ww@
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Bowties represent
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turn 13 end!

The people of the Sun went back to work on their wall, and effectively finished it.

The shamans tried to expand their magic arsenal with intense prayers but their current methods and customs (and clothes?) prevent them from going further yet.

The Leather Shamans from the copper tribe have started a new and popular school of magic, that combines pleasure and self inflicted pain to keep an edge.
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>>373231
intredasting
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>>373231
So we did accidently make bdsm suns.
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>>373243
You probably gave them the ability to research blood magic.
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>>373243
Honestly not that big of a surprise
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>>373231
The Maiden sent ships full with weapons and supplies to the treelands as soon as they heard of the rebellion. Some maiden even went with the boats to help with the tactics!

lame attempts were done to use the dried blood of old battlefields for magic with no success. However blood magic is a trendy interest right now and the Witching Child and her suite are getting more powerful. They can discover magic on their own given time.

The Sun Ambassador was asked to use his bird to scout the orclands. Though it is not his job, he didn't see a reason to decline and accepted the request.
He saw many lowly populated orc camps, and a lot of smoke far to the west before his bird got eaten by a raptor.
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>>373312
COPPERS GET OUT
RIGHTFUL TREE CLAY
REEEEEEE
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>>373312
>raptor
oh shit
dinosaurs
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>>373326
>Trees look over Tree City
>See Rebels have made tree wall
>OUT OF CUT DOWN TREES
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>>373332
I want to see this happen.
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>>373350
Maybe they can beat down the rebellion by going crusade crazy over trees.
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>>373356
Inb4 they burn down the trees forest.
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Rolled 94, 16 = 110 (2d100)

good ol' rat fighting:

attackers:
attacking(-20) + siege engines(+20) + troop quality (+25) = +25

defenders:
defending: hills(+10) + troop quality(+20) + tactics(+20) + numbers(+30) = +80!
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>>373361
HOLY SHIT BOIS
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>>373361
The rats just cant get a break with these rolls
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>>373361
>Rats roll 119
Holy shit! I hope its them rebels getting attacked.
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>>373383
That's The Bowties attacking The Rats.
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>>373389
Oh shit man, you fucking destroyed them rats then.
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>>373361
the Queen left the ratlands with the young grandson of the Marquis of the Septentrion and the North some day, taking all her clique of skeletons, servants and guards with her. The Marquis' troops were left behind, with a few of his own allies. This greatly struck the morale of his troops, feeling their Goddess left them for petty romance.

But the Marquis didn't back down. He knew going further into rat territory would only get harder with time as the rats improve their already formidable defenses. So he decided to attack immediately!

The Marquis got the Queen's blessing to use the inquisitors for his military actions, which greatly displeased the Inquisition, but they have no choice except comply.

The attack started terribly bad for the bowties: the prepared rats had set up cannons along their walls to disrupt the tightly packed shield formations while waves of skeletons rushed into the action and a hail of gunfire rained on the confused mass!

... But the Marquis, with a spearhead of armored guards, inquisitors, and the bravest of his troops, rushed to the walls to burn a way in. They then climbed the walls and killed the cannon crews and necromancers where they found them while the rest of the troops engaged the rats' main force, keeping them too busy to chase the bowtie commander's group on their spree!

The rats were routed. Many died in the Marquis' army, but morale was very high after such an heroic victory!

The territory didn't expand much beyond the wall, though. The Marquis requests reinforcements to do so but the Queen has been very quiet.
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can I get an updated tree recap

I can't make any sense of any of the two factions' posts in last thread
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>>373488
Treetards, too tardy for Opee
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>>373488
First I got a question, Do we still have some of the navy? I know it was slowed down because of the mercs wanting thier own cash, but that was a while ago.
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>>373505
you have a navy, just not your Grand Navy of Yore. it's worse than the copper navy but it's decent.
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>>373468
>the Queen has been very quiet.
Depose Shotacon with Loli Queen when.
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>>373512
ALright Im going to say we that since we cant really get a blockade going we :

Action: make gaurd outposts with fire brasiers at the top to be lit during an attack as an early warning system.

Action: Start propaganda campaign against the rebels.
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>>373488
Action: ask other nations to either not buy from the tree government or to increase the tariffs on tree imports to weaken the government's economy, making them less effective and having less control over mercenaries.
Action: contact the female super assassins to go after the loyalist generals. With this, their morale will plummet and they'll lack the will to fight.

MAKE TREES GREAT AGAIN
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>>373512
Maybe you should just make The Tree Turns two part, or have rebels be separate, because they're never going to agree on what to do.
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>>373564
we are already seperate.
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>>373533
>Realize that that braziers is spelled with a Z instead of an S
>We could be burning bras at the top of these outposts

But just to clarify its supposed to work like these things http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Warning_beacons_of_Gondor
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>>373611
>not burning varieties of undergarments on your outposts
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>>373611
[DAMAGE CONTROL INTENSIFIES]
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>>373640
t. filthy colluder who needs outsiders to help him destroy the land once again.
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>>373651
Being xenophobic and misogynistic is no way to run a country.
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alright I'll make the tree update and event tomorrow earlier than usual because I'm tired and overall a lazy piece of ass

see you tomorrow!
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>>373651
Ey, if anybody's gonna destroy da land it's gonna be usss
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>>373659
See ya you poo poo eating lesbian frog
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>>373659
Oh god dammit, it's been two weeks and four delays.
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>>373658
countries were run that way for thousands of years. Some still are, who are you to say they are wrong.
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>>373672
It's better than nothing
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>>373674
The Trees are outdated, just like your government. Everyone can see why you focused everything on suppressing instead of just investing into technology.
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>>373659
Well have a nap...
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>>373684
t.person who didn't invest into technology on their turn.
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>>373684
They're pretty much Tribals living in The Medieval era.
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>>373711
Maybe you didn't see the Maidens supporting us on their turn. Unlike you, they've got far better armor, weapons, warriors.
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>>373711
You're both treetards, not investing in technology is proabbly in your blood
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>>373726
W estill have the numbers against you. And in case you havent noticed the big tactic we use is cavalry archers. Which means we unless you can pace our boars we are going to avoid melee fights and just run around shooting arrows into you mongolian style.
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>>373752
>Cavalry
>In a forest
That's how Rome beat The Mongols the first time.
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>>373752
Boar archers don't do so well in a siege. Trust me, Khergits are shit at defending their cities.
t. Mount & Blade
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>>373764
>Rome
>fighting the Mongols

>>373770
we dont even have castles man, we have motte and bailey type structures at best.
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>>373799
The Mongols aren't The Huns.
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>>373804
so how can you say that rome beat the mongols if they only fought the huns? Plus the mongols conquered Rus, which was covered in forest as well.
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>>373813
Weird, I thought The Huns came later.
Either way, they bet them because when you put cavalry in trees they lose mobility, which is literally the only thing they have going for them.
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>>373828
I suppose so, but then again we have the tactical advantage of being accustomed to fighting and living in a forest with our cavalry, so I dont think our cavalry has too much of a drop in mobility if any at all.
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>>373869
Considering that you're the defenders you'll always have a good advantage over anyone trying to attack, but I still think that cavalry isn't good for defending, nor for forest fighting. You got ents though and have spent half the game increasing policing and defense, so balls to anyone who tries to take you anyway.
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>>373752
I'm unsure as to how this turn will turn our to be, but for our next turn, I'd suggest that we either train our people with the golden maidens as warriors or with the sabetuers, and as a second action we undermine the trees power further by either further disruptimg trade by attacking their trade routes therefore increasing our funds and destroying their moral and can be used to buy the mercenaries from them, or we can use the action to develop gorilla tactics or to groom one of our people to become a great military or sabetuer asset.
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>>373948
as reminders, the maidens are extremely good at defence, can creat great weapons and they probably got some cavalry knowledge and some machine knowledge from talking at the celebrations we've been having
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>>373371
>>374997
oh and ITS GOOD TO BE BACK, do we wait for the world event for our action? looks like investing on blood won't do any good right now
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>>375006
Just an idea for the orcs, since they're out fighting we could send an attack to finish off the orcs/what their fighting? Or perhaps build a trump wall? Either way we have breathing room to deal with the orcs that we should capitalize on right now since their in a bad position and they have very few troops near the copper borer.
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>>375320
It all depends on the rolls anon
Lets build a wall though and build a train
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>>376039
Oh yeah, it's been a long time since we've been together so I almost forgot.

Why do you want a train when you have a huge river that stretches right down the middle of your nation?
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>>376423
Because Drink

I don't even know what to do anymore
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Any copper goyim agree with

Action: Build a defences and walls on our western border against the orcs

Tech: Springs and bits for suspension for our cars and maybe steering
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>>376469
We shouldn't just make defenses and walls we should make a great wall like the bowties only on our Western border to eliminate the threat of orcs. But yeah I agree with the wall.

Instead of steam maybe we should work on our population? We only get 1k a year right now. Maybe have hospitals become widespread to keep people from dying from various things?
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>>376490
Well fuck
Then do that
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>>373195
h-hey
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>>376568
ayy
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>>376490
What increases pop growth anyway?
I know more food does
Does more medicine do it too?
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>>376593
I'm sure medicine would considering the coppers lifestyle with all that fighting and ritual scarring. So really it would increase faster on the account of less people dying.
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The civil war started calmly.

The loyalists focused on their legitimacy to boost the morale of their troops and cohesion of their people. Guard posts were established and guard shifts lengthened.

Meanwhile, with the help of the copper maiden's influence, the rebels stopped trade between the copper engineers and the loyalists, cutting their source of copper and weakening their potential forces.
The spies were sent to assassinate more generals. Some were succesful, but most did not have that chance now that the loyalists know what to expect. The loss of some of these women is tough on the rebels, as they are their driving force.
The rebels are also suffering minor raids from the rats, likely to test their defenses.
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>>377502
HAHAHA
Looks like Im a loyalist

AYY BABY
IMMA BEAT MEH WIMMINZ
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>>376469
>>373488
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>>377517
Are you trying to link a turn that all the actions we dont agree on? Really?
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event: They Are Back!
The copper scouts saw the orks leave their homes running before towering black figures. They seem to go towards the copper lands! The scouts ran home stricken with fear, knowing that they just spotted the Dominators of yore.

At the beginning, before men were divided in factions and clans, there was but one nation of humans, united under the rule of the cruel Dominators, evil giants of immense power that played war against each other endlessly. They left mysteriously eons ago. Until now!

As if summoned, the Sea Queen went out of the sea in person to deliver her message to every port. "It seems your old masters are back earlier than expected, humans! How tragic. But there is still hope for you! Together, we can beat these ugly fellows back to where they came from. All I ask for is your loyalty. Pledge your arms to me, save your people!"

The mermaid did not bother going to the Bowtie shores, knowing the answer the Queen would give.

turn 14 start!
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recap anchor post
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>Goes to shore
>Tells people about old masters
>A resounding, "Who?"
>She was lying the whole time
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>>377557
Were in another ruse scenario, looks like we'll have to work together again like the volcano. Question is if we'll get tricked again. That makes me not want to work with the witch and try diplomacy on them first.
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>>377545
Action: Train with the maidens, so our fighting skill can equal and/or beat the loyalists.
Tech: Begin investing into copper weapons and armor now that we have Maiden help.
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>>377539
Ooooooh boooy
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>>377522
Well nigga we need a turn

I Said do the shit and nothing was done and that was 5 hours ago
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Aight, who Suns here, what's our turn?
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>>377713
You said and I quote
>well fuck
>do that then
I assumed you wanted to do my suggestion and my post would ne linked when the recap came. Now we need to change it because we have giants marching on us now.
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>>377746
Yep
In the end nothing matters.. we all dead
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>>377775
Not exactly yet, one action could to mobilize EVERYONE engineers, maidens, warlords, give the old and weak crossbows, then just wait. Second action could be to try diplomacy with those guys, see if the sea witch is spouting bullshit. Then use the embassy to tell the suns about them.
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>>377786
The maidens are fighting the trees

We need allies
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>>377788
Not fully, they're supplying them and few maidens actually went. They also have the advantage of the Witching Child still there too. The embassy was so the suns know and if they want they can help. Maybe even have them tell bowties also if things get really bad.
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>>377539
Can I talk to the Queen?
If I can

In the roughest engineer sailor voice possible
"Ayy Sugartits den some noice tiddies..
Tell ya' what.. If we join you then you have to marry into the copper nation and provide us with heirs and magicians"
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>>377788
I think we should probably consult the Elves in order to see what they think of the giants, after all we know how the sea witch can fuck us all over if we dont look at the situation from all angles.

As for the rebellion, maybe we can set up bouties, rewarding any man woman or rat how can get us the heads of the rogeue assassins?
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>>377665
Honestly not sure, we did work with the Sea Queen before and from the sun peoples perspective she hasnt done anything wrong, so i guess we trust her?
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>>377886
I mean what's the worst that could happen? A sunken continent instead of an island? Hah.

Anyway, I was thinking about improving our magics, since Opee said something about clothing. The Sun Shamans of old didn't have clothes on, so maybe we should have shamans pray fucking hard, while naked. This may also lead them into be fucking hard.
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>>377899
Well ill say yeah to naked praying
I guess yeah to the SeaQueen

For our other action I say we give the female shamans something to do, not sure what yet. Maybe research into ways to enhance the body with alchemy?
Like lotions that get you swole
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>>377899
What if The Continent do sink, and all that's left is mountain Tops.
AND THEY BECOME ISLANDS
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>>377928
Yes, but let's not jump the gun juuuust yet.

LEt's just improve ourselves a bit first. Having dude shamans shed their clothes and resume zealous prayer and having female shamans research ways to improve our bodys through their aptitude in medicine and alchemy.
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>>377941
I guess we will be playing rat civ if that happens.
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>>373468
We pulled off the greatest historical battle that The Bowties have ever seen, and succeeded against the worst odd possibly all of history had ever seen, and The Queen ignores us to fuck children.

Well if she wants to be so damned quiet then we will as well.

She can stay in her home and deal with whatever child pandering she wishes, for we will be greater. We're building a new home for The inquisition.

We're moving them OUT of The Capital, and moving them into a massive fortification along The Rat Conquest where they can do their jobs and fight Necromancers Beyond The Boarder.

Enlist Rats to gather The Stone, put out greatest men on perfecting construction methods, get the soldiers to sit on this boarder and make sure no indignant fuck dares cross that Bowtie line and take an inch for The Rats. This is OURS

Do not ask The Queen about The Fortress, the whole mandate will go better if we orchestrate this as The Will of The Church and deal with our own damned problems.

I elect Bowties preform this:
Tech: Research advanced architecture and construction.
Action: Begin construction of Ratbane, The Great Fortress of The North and Headquarters to The Inquisition.

Burn the objectors.
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>>378137
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So how does this sound for a turn.

Action: Mobilize EVERYONE alert the maidens and engineers, hastily build defenses and evacuate the noncombatants from the west. Use everything at our disposal to insure they cant get into the coppers lands and be ready for total war. While this is happening send a messenger to see if the legends are completely true, if not ask them what they're doing and mention the sea witch.

Tech: Implement medics into the armys that know flesh bending. Their job is to try and avoid combat and try to heal maimed and injured soldiers during a battle.

Also, lets not take the sea witch on her offer unless were absolutely desperate. I wouldnt be surprised if the giants have some magical artifact she wants.
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>>378217
I like how we're all fairly certain The Mermaid is an artifact gold digger.
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>>378217
As an additional bit, i would ask the orc too about them, they are the giant force that they've been fighting right?
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>>378488
They got crushed by the giants, all that seems to be left are women and children with maybe very few men left.
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>>378495
You should probably offer them sanctuary if that's the case.
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>>378495
They may be hiding at the forests as a form of guerilla warfare, i also suggest we start pumping war techs next turn
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>>378502
I think theirs legitimately almost no orc soldiers left. All the scouts we've sent showed camps with very few women and children with no men, the latest scout we sent showed all the camps empty save for the orcs that are fleeing.
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>>378519
well from our orc hostage she said the reason why they weren't home was because they were fighting, maybe we can ask opee about the situation on the west? I do agree with our current action to bolster defence right now though from the west, maybe ask help from bowties/suns later on while improving many battle tactics per turn but the problem is would those suffice against the giants? we have to think of our moves carefully cause we can easily get fucked fast
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>>378839
I feel as if were going to need to rely on seige weaponry the engineers have since their giants that seem to be clad in full plate. Suns and trees already know about them too, not sure about the bowties. Theres also that there going to be on us most likely next turn as they've already seem to have defeated the orcs in the west and are marching on us. In general we seem to be pretty fucked if the other nations dont help out and they are actually hostile to us. Since they managed to so thoroughly kick the orcs shit in.
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>>378919
As far as I know Bowties haven't been told.
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>>378919
so let's first see what we have

loli witch nurses can help us with blood magic and medicine, the engineers can use their siege weaponry and steam machines (we can make this mobile bombs) while our cavalry can act as scouts and use a hit and run tactic

I believe we should ask the help of orcs for their strength, suns are more of a logistical power right now though their animal power will help a lot, the bowties have advanced weaponry, which is they still dont know, we can just rely via the sun embassy

I doubt we're gonna be able to do this easily though, we have to know why they disappeared eons ago, more information about them, I suggest we try to develop some kind of elite scouting unit? would that help with our scout rolls? is it possible for the suns to hypnotize fishes and eavesdrop on the merqueen??
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>>377545
Tech: upgrade magic ability

Action: talk to the elves about what they know of the giants, why they left, and what their relationship to the sea witch was.

If we can have that as a free action then
Action: begin grooming large trees to grow to immense proportions that can be uprooted in dire situations.
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>>378217
>Tech: Implement medics into the armys that know flesh bending. Their job is to try and avoid combat and try to heal maimed and injured soldiers during a battle.

Thats not how tech works.. Thats like an action..

I think we should make a like a wind lance ballista
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>>378217
Having blood priests mixed with the military is probably a culture thing.
Also medical bonuses like that likely won't get you any pop bonuses because so far war deaths haven't resulted in pop reducing.

You should improve your fishing output for your river for bonus food if you want more pop
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o shit, im back.
also this is totally the mermaids plan to enslave us all just saying...
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>>380354
well what must we do?

Also welcome back bby
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>>377945
let's shed our clothing in a total heterosexual way like the realm we are.
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>>380379
so, our turn:
- shamans engage in zealous prayers once again to further develop magic, but naked in order to fully expose themselves to the sun's shining lights
- female shamans look for ways to improve our physical form through their healing magics and alchemy

Embassy:
Ask other civs about what they think of the mermaid's words
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>>380357
what tech do you think we should think of to defend from the giants? since they waged war against each other maybe we can pit them against each other again? we really need more info
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>>380494
Lets just carry on with our cars/bombs on wheels

We need steering
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>>380499
Alright, and I think the loli nurses will automatically help us as medics in our action move

Action: Establish a state of emergency in Copper lands that will create a unified defence of the 3 main divisions on the west ready for war, send non combatants away from the west, and messengers for information gathering

Action: create a way to steer the steam cars (BANZAIIIII)

are we okay with this? >>380357
>>378519
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>>380507
well it would be

Action: Establish a state of emergency in Copper lands that will create a unified defence of the 3 main divisions on the west ready for war, send non combatants away from the west, and messengers to each of the nations including the tree scum

Tech: create a way to steer the steam cars. If they can be steered already maybe make a suspension with springs and shieet
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>>380515
what use will the suspensions be? assuming we use a lot of the steam cars, we might be better off investing in mining to get coal and explosives
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>>380522
We alrady have coal hence steel.
>>380278
I was banking on medics to not increase our pop but instead increase our troop quality bonus in fights.
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>>380522
Well if we had suspension we can go offroad in a bit
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>>380530
>>380531
hm alright if you say so

can anyone explain to me what the mermaid did in the tribe civ so i can gauge how untrustworthy she is?
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>>380535
She sunk the island we lived in after she said the dragon was the true danger. But she used the dragons power.
>>380515
My votes still for implementing medics.
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>>380539
so how did everyone survive

so what you're proposing is tech: use loli witches to turn soldiers into SUPER SOLDIERS maybe DOMINATOR TIER SOLDIERS??? (kidding)
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>>380545
We had some prep time because we got warned by a wizard so we made boats albeit everyone had pretty shit boats.

My plan was that they would save a soldier from fatal injuries and heal maimed ones so they can get back into th fight. That way they can fight harder.
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>>380553
But you don't realise that thats a fucking action
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>>380480
>>377545
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>>380557
We could implement it as a culture if you vote for it. Theres not many mages in the armys save for felfire users I assume. This way everyone will have their uses in the upcoming battles.
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>>380564
don't they already count for the state of emergency/war council?
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>>380571
As far as I know the witching child is just their in castle on maiden island. What I want is the people she teaches actively take part in battles by being medic that regen fatal wounds.
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>>380564
We can only do Action and Tech

-Trees have action and action
-Suns have action and culture
-We have action and tech
-Bowties have action and tech

Thats our cultural bonus

Wake up man
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>>380583
its just that for me, what's the use of an overarching general action turn if we don't include the witches in as well
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>>380591
I mean, they would be included. Assuming they decide to come. I just question the effectiveness of steam buggies.
>>380590
We didn't do a tech last turn friend, we did a culture and a action.
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>>380598
I think magic is sorta like tech

I mean culture can't mean magic and neither can action
Because this is a civ we talking about
We hold a festival or start a religion to get a new spell
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>>377647
Agree
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>>380603
i doubt anything will happen if we try to research more magic, opee did say that it would develop over time since theres interest in it
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>>380607
Exactly
We should leave the magic be
and advance our death machines.
We could have tanks soon we focused
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>>380603
I suppose it could be a little of both, I've always lumped tech as working on tolls, machines, medicine.

I've always put magic as culture because of the things needed to do it. Like the suns self immolating. Last turn didn't work because of useless blood and that we seem to have hit a softcap on magic so now we wait for the witching child.
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>>380615
assuming the explosive suicide cars dont work and we can't work on magic, what do you think would work? we need to either invest in weaponry or army, we can't win with our current state right now

*of course mermaids are always at the back of the head
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>>380632
Yeah.. I really doubt it would be effective to blow up steam cars against armoured giants.

I just wanted to make magic more common in the army not get the next tier. We could start making horse drawn chariots, just stick a ballista on the back of one or some archers. Or go balls to the wall with training and start producing the best equipment for the armys to make new shock troops.
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>>380645
if ever we find their weakness we can launch it using the cars, whatever it is.

also free turn, communication with bowties about the situation and ask help from the other clans. also ask the suns if they can possess fishes to eavesdrop with the merqueen to maybe get info? is that oaky sunbros?
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>>380662
Sea witch during tribal years saw through the possession right away so I dunno how successful would the spying be
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>>380662
I think we can only talk with the suns using the embassy, they already know about them so the suns should be able to tell the bowties about them which their doing right now I think.

If you guys are intent on getting steering for the steam cars you should include how it'll be used in battle also. Like attaching a ballista to it.
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>>380672
that's a shame

>>380674
lets just include the witches in our first action and yes, lets include mounting weapons into the steam cars, thats good
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Is it to late to join and if not what are the rules?
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>>377545
action: Establish a state of emergency in Copper lands that will create a unified defence of the 3 main divisions including notable figures such as the witch on the west ready for war, send non combatants away from the west, and messengers to everyone including the trees for information gathering about the dominators of yoke

Tech: greatly improve the stability and steering of steam cars while equipping it with weapons such as the ballista improving it for combat, if it already can be steered, add a pulley system instead that will act as a suspension to decrease the burden on the wheels and steam machine

>>380716
read the OP post and the clans, although right now theres a lot of people playing per clan
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>>380716
Might as well join to
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>>380723
So its agreed were telling the sea witch to fuck off right?
>>380716
>>380727
You guys need a recap of what the nations are?
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>>380730
can we not answer her first? its gonna be hard to make promises as of now
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>>380716
How about a society of reptiles and fishmen a dragon King fish pepole nagas traditional lizard men some human concubines and some dragonborn
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>>380730
Sure
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>>380751
?
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>>380730
I say we still do this >>377874
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>>380799
Yes I see it now, that random drunkard gets disemboweled by fishmen while the real delegation comes a little later.
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>>380887
Exactly
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>>380559
sounds good!
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>>380893
But really though, she wouldn't do that and if we take her help she'll put into motion some convoluted plan that fucks everyone over.
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>>380900
But she'll be our cum dumpster
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>>380900
But seriously
Its just a prank bro
I want to see her response..

But if no other nation helps us we should take the deal
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>>380912
Lets wait until the fighting happens, I'd only take it if we have literally no choice left. Odds are the bowtie queen is planning something too. So we've got that also.
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>>380918
But she doesn't know the masters have returned
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>>380918
I dunno, mate.
She's pretty occupied with her Shotas.
I think her plan is just to beat the shit out of The Mermaid when she sees her.
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>>380921
Were sending out messengers also in our first action. Suns are also going around to see whats up. It depends also if the legends are bullshit also. So we dont know yet if the giants will attack immediately or will negotiate.
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>>377545

Since I don't really see any objectors popping up, this is Bowtie's Turn:
>>378137
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>>381056
i support it yeah
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Im going to make da turn goys
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>>377545

Action: Mobilize EVERYONE alert the maidens and engineers, hastily build defenses and evacuate the noncombatants from the west. Use everything at our disposal to insure they cant get into the coppers lands and be ready for total war. While this is happening send a messenger to see if the legends are completely true, if not ask them what they're doing and mention the sea witch.

Tech: Improve our cars with steering. So we can actually drive. If they already have steering.. then make a suspension system with strings and shit

Also add this in for the memes >>377874 since its like a free.
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here I am lets get to it
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>>381343
>Sailor found gutted like fish
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>>381343
>>380723
To prevent confusion this is what the majority agreed on for out turn.
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>>381380
Same thing basically
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>>381386
It goes into greater detail, its not as vague as what you linked.
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>>381403
>Vague
Both are pretty vague since the one linked has multiple upgrades on the vehicle such as weapons, stability and steering
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>>381343
Im so glad she found a new apprentice
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>>381406
Which is what a majority agreed on in the case it already has steering and if so the path we want to take it on and how it'll be used in battle. If Opee wants to put less then thats how it is.

Meanwhile you posted your own turn again when we already linked one.
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turn 14 end!
After the scouting reports, the copper nations united their forces to establish defenses east of their territory.
The giants are now visible at the horizon, coming ever so slowly towards them. People start to panic as even the witches have no idea how to defeat such formidable beings.
Only three of them have been seen for now.

The engineers developed a steering mechanism for their cars, so that they can be used on the field. However driving those engines off the roads is out of question, the roads being bumpy enough as is.
They also mounted ballistas on them.

The Sea Queen has been ignored by all but an unfortunate old man. Seas have been extremely dangerous lately, and many sailors died.
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>>381431
Question Opee, around how big are these things?
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>>381451
bout tree fiddy yards
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>>381485
Oh shit bois.
They're as big as an X-Box
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>>381485
They look like those guys from the Banner Saga,
only bigger
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>>381485
O shit, were gonna need bigger guns to win this.
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>>381491
We need Gnomes
Only they can defeat The Giants
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>>381485
those things are xbox huge. how are we ever gonna win to this?
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>>381505
Hear me out
Giant pits
With Giant Spikes
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>>381464
SUCH IS LIFE IN COPPANIA
:^)

But on a serious note we have the largest amount of players
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>>381431
The elven council went at work with magic and managed to discover a new spell!

earth magic tier 5: vines!
large vines sprout from the ground to lash and grab enemies under the caster's total control. The ground must be at least a little fertile.

The Elves never were in contact with the Dominators, living secluded on their island for eons. But they can retell the people the lore of their ancestors:
A very long time ago, the Tree tribe were servants of the Dominator of the Hunt, Ifris. This demon took most of the game for himself to feast and revel in his grand debaucheries. But he was also cunning, and kept an eye on his every living possession. None could escape his law.
Until one day, a spirit of freedom scared the fiend away from his throne, leaving some of his people enough time to flee unseen. These people are the founder of Elfland as it is now.
Well, the human part of Elfland at least.


The rebels are training with the golden maiden's new equipment, and turning their militia into a proper army. It's not quite enough to fight the loyalists head on, but it scared the rat raiders away.

A long time as passed since the last military action between factions, a few skirmishes here and there from time to time reminds everyone a war is going on. At this rate the two rival factions will turn into two separate nations for good.
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>>381464
someone understands my pain.
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>>381533
Should made the engineers secede :^) Then Warlord could shill his agenda as much as possible
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>>381544
>Implying whatever agenda The Warlords have is any more shilling than Engineer Rome
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>>381533
we bowties and sunbros understand and share your pain
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>>381547
True (I gave up on the rome bit)
But without the engineer shilling to balance it out. There would be no rewrites of actions and stuff

It would be clean and simple
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>>381553
I'm fairly certain more conflicting ideas would cause more rewrites.
I'm not trying to stamp on civ philosophies or anything, but that's just logic.
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>>381561
No Im saying
With the engineers forming another nation that There would be two clean action sheets

Instead of a fucked beyond space one for us all
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>>381568
Well yeah, but if that would be the case then Rebels and Trees should separate as well, and that would give Opee six nations process turns for instead of four.
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>>381526
The classical shamans have decided to spend their life nude at last, like their ancestors once did. After an initial cultural shock it has rapidly been accepted. After all, the wrestlers fight naked in the holy days and those leather shamans look worse than naked.

The female shamans found a way to improve their physical appearance with wrinkle-removing balms and creams! They also found the painkilling drugs could be used in combat but it dulls the senses of the user, so it's not exactly making them stronger.

The other nations replied that they ignored the Sea Queen entirely to address more urging matters. The Bowtie Queen wasn't informed of it and thanked the shamans for the info.
The shamans saw no reason to do anything regarding the Sea Queen either. The sea was particularly tormented, which hurt the fishing exploitations a lot.
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>>381568
Eh, thats how it is. All the clans have agendas, we have diffrent ideas. I quite like the coppers even though its a freeway car crash of a mess.

But seperating would just put you at a disadvantage considering how everything dangerous apparently lives next to us.
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>>381580
Well we would be allies
And I can just push my steampunk agenda of tanks and shit so we can have advanced weapons
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>>381526
Hey Opee, could we get a map of the rebel held areas in treeland, just to see how much land we would need to take back.?
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>>381586
Then it would progress 3 times as slow as said by opee. Meanwhile I and the maidens soar past you in tech. Besides, it's clear you just want sole control of a nation.
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>>381602
Will who doesn't tbqh fĂ m
That's what shilling an agenda basically is
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>>381578
The Queen remained silent. Deeply hurt by the lack of recognition his victory got, the Marquis used his powers as governor of the north to get every able man to build the most formidable fortress Bowties have ever seen since the Ironclads, Ratbane.

The Marquis also abused the Queen's blessing to lead her inquisitors to force them to move headquarters to his newly founded fort. Many protested but none could question the holy mission bestowed upon the lord.
The inquisition is highly hindered in her everyday activities now, and few heretics are brought as sacrifice to the Queen, if any.

The Queen left her palace, once. She wanted to visit the fort and know if any weird activities had happened near the sea. She was upset and disappointed about how her Inquisitors were used, but she did not give any counter-orders.

turn 15 start!
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>>381578
sweet
naked
victory
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>>381617
If she wants a hand in the acts of soldiers, she'll come sit in our towers and know the sound of metal soaring at us from crossed the boarder just like we do.

Until then she can settle for whatever heretical rats we send, it'll be better for the local ratlings if we weed out the disloyal as is. It shall help them understand our faith all the better when there are no objectors.

Until then she can sit in her home and wait for us to come back victorious. If she has any objections she'll find that her boy certainly wont be half as happy with her if his kin's head ends up upon a pike.
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recap anchor post
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So, ideas people. How are we going to defeat skyscraper sized armour clad giants?
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>>381617
Hey Opee, If you are still around could you make a map of the rebel held areas in treeland?
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>>381656
We could build a massive ballista.. With a windlance mechanism.
It would fire a Bolt the size of a man.. Armour piercing
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We need to finish this war.
It's been long enough that The Rats have been a pain to us, and now that we've broken their morale we've been able to stand as a force to be reckoned with.

No matter if they throw cannons at us, or guns, or as many rats as it takes to carpet those mighty hills until the very earth seems black, they shall not drive us back.

They can look upon the hills the once called their own and see Ratbane to know all well how much their cannons mean to real soldiers.

At this moment right now I can tell they're taking into desperation. Every time we hit them they shall regroup and remass their boys into formation until we're fighting women and children, then their risen again bones, then the wizards that arose them, then the guards that hold their capital all the same.

This is no longer a war for powder, but instead a war for ourselves.

I elect we take to more demanding means of combat. They'll be a war-like society if left to their own devices by the time we assault again.

If The Queen will not Reinforce us, then we will man the troops we have.

Here's what we have going for us in Ratbane:
-Inquisition is here to root out disloyal rats and send them to The Queen
-Rats are good diggers, and we own some settlements here.
-Fort Ratbane is, or is at least close to the best fort in The Kingdom

Proposition:
Tech: Train in wide group tactics that involve the enlistment of loyalist rats to help keep our lines from getting blown away by cannons in mass.
Action: Conquer further into Ratlands. We shall Mount the heads of dead necromancers from The Battle of Ratbane on pikes to light ablaze.

We gave them the chance to surrender once, let's give them a strong insistence to change their minds in the subject.
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>>381693
Thats an idea, we could maybe even make more than one possiblyignite the projectiles with felfire also. Maybe we could make felfire bombs also, we could launch bundles of metal spikes and other things out of catapults to pepper them and maybe act as cantrops to slow them dow.
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>>381712
Those would have to be some fuckung big caltrops
Also get the orcs to man giant spears

Also we need strong big chains. We can do what the rebels did to AT-ATs
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>>381775
The orcs are gone man, they just ran. Not even towards us, just away from where their heading.

How are we going to topple them? Grappling hooks would bounce off their armour and one fired from a ballista would just get pulled out from the ground and anyone near by will get their shit slapped. We dont have time to make a massive trap, yet alone one that can hold 3 of them.
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>>381779
Our cavalry can haul a long ass chain and circle the Giants with chain and then ride away as the giant topples
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>>381779
Or we could just fight and die
The the civilians commit sudoku
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>>381785
Yes but you must entrust that the horses are heavy enough to not be thrown aloft when The Chains bind them.

Imagine jewelry chains trying to bind a man.

You would do better to launch pots of flaming oil at them from your siege machines.
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>>381785
The flaw is how will we attach the chain. It'll take luck to get it into a joint and will have to be fairly close. Then they get squished.
>>381791
That what I envisioned when thinking of launching bundles of spikes covered in felfire, oil aould be damm usefull for this if we had it.
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>>381791
But they are literally fully armoured
The Fire would be so mediocre

We basically only have the ballista idea which does significant dmg
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>>381796
Pots would work better. The splash is what will really will get them.

>>381799
Having your armor be on fire is still going to ruin you.

If example needed, put pot on lit stove then touch the bottom of the pot.
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>>381799
Alright heres another idea, melee is sucide against these things, just give EVERYONE bows and crossbows. Eventually we might get their eyes.
>>381805
As far as I know felfire cant be contained like that but us part of a material like for example a flaming sword.
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>>381811
Just invent oil this turn and set it on fire.
You don't really need felfire.
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>>381805
We would need a massive fucking fire.
We would need the oil or shit to sorta stick to the armour so it heats up

Literally if we throw fireballs it's just gonna bounce off and they so small compared to the Giants it's like being thrown with smallish tennis balls that are on fire...
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>>381817
Oil will stick to armor, especially if it's on fire.

Not to mention if you're really intent on making a giant Ballista you can probably do both this turn if you do tech & tech
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>>381816
>Invent Crude oil
As far as I know we dont even have the materials to make fire bombs like sulphur and such.
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>>381828
Burning oil is made from animal fat.
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>>381831
Alright then thats another idea, we could launch large jars of the stuff at them. Hopefully they cant resist fire.
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>>381705
I support these turns. Lets full on turn into the Dark Army we where always meant to be.
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>>381951
And once we take Cannons for ourselves
We'll be some of the great giant slayers.
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>>381956
Ones we've defeated the giants well invade them aswell and turn them into our citicens, as it should be. I can already envision the mighty towers of fort Giantsbane
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>>381963
Such big dreams.
Never lose them.
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>>381641
We might not be able to face the loyalists head on yet. We need a general or figurehead for our army. I propose we promote one of the female Elves to be both of these things.

Here's what I think our actions should be.
Action: Find our most talented, confident and cutest Elf to be our leader, then groom them to be our greatest asset.
If we have a strong leader, people will flock, even the males of the loyalists! We'll call our leader our 'Lady Protector'.
Action: With help from our Boar Priestess, begin conducting more raids against the loyalist trade routes and patrols. By having the boars as our mounts, we can strike in and out, guerilla style. Since trees give us a good ambush point as well, if they're moving within the forests, opt to ambushing them from above in the branches since boars are less maneuverable when there's a lot of trees.
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What are the current populations and what is each nation up to?
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>>382078
Bowties: 107k
Suns: 95k
Trees: 109k
Coppers: 104k

Bowties: Conquering Rat Land
Suns: Re-Perfecting their Magic Skills
Trees: In the middle of a matriarchal revolution
Coppers: Preparing to combat Giants
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>>382124
I meant how many people where posting for each nation and what sort of things I can expect each nation to be doing
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>>382157
About 4 coppers, 2 bowties, 2 trees, and 2 suns that are still active.
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>>382124
What is the situation?
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>>382194
Woah
That's Heresy
Not full blown Infidel
But certainly Heresy
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>>382202
Are you going to give me vital information or do I need to scroll?
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>>382194
Anyway, the situation is this
We have Rats to our north that have gunpowder, and we do not.

We've decided to go to war with them and take them over so we can double our landmass and take black powder for ourselves.

We've been making military advancements like mad, and what's happened so far is the guy leading the attack won one battle, then the queen came and said he did a good job.

Then we helped build a wall with Sun Bros for a while, but while we were doing that The Rats were improving their defenses along the boarder.

We pulled off a lucky as all hell combat roll and stomped the shit out the rats. immediately after we built a massive fortress named Ratbane on the boarder, and The Queen went home to fuck shotas. She's been real quiet.

We have a holy inquisition, which is a bunch of fire magic wielding guys that have had their base moved to Ratbane so they can be front and center helping the war effort at all times.

This turn is as suggested here:
>>381705

Since we need reinforcements we've decided to start incorporating loyalist rats into our military because The Queen is refusing to acknowledge us much and actually send real soldiers to the front lines.

If we let The Rats sit for too long they will remake a cannon line and have another wall of fortifications to break that we'll need a new lucky roll to break. So we also stated we were going to go ahead and attack now.

Any ideas that pop up feel free to voice 'em, because we need to conquer Rat Land before The Giants stomp over to our side of the world.
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>>382220
What we really need is to intice bowtie sympathies within rat civilization. See what kind of internal morale damage the existing rat loyalists can stir up inside their cities.
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>>382238
I think the Morale of The Rats is pretty low right now. Just last turn they suffered the greatest loss the game has ever seen, and every fight before that has been either a loss on their part, or one time they actually failed so hard they didn't even get to the combat before they lost.

I think what we really need is for them to be pushed towards surrender.

Maybe we can try and get Loyal Rats to tell about how life is better under Bowtie rule.
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>>382250
How many players do the bow ties have
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>>382260
3 I think
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>>382250
You know what'd be funny. Selling rats pain supressing drugs and see how they fight with it.
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>>382250
That is what I meant. Sorry I'd my longtieness makes it hard to understand. >>382266
Shut up Awsats
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>>382266
They'd probably be put in a coma considering it makes humans sluggish. Or it might be on the level of opium and just destroy them.
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>>382270
Who os this awsats you speak of
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>>382261
I am the grand tailor a rat who inherited the title from the previous tailor. The grand tailor is the one who made all the bow ties and as such has all large political sway. This good?
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>>382266
Well if it makes them drowsy then it would be great.
If it doesn't though, it would likely make them keep fighting passed the point of no return and they'd die after the battle.

>>382270
Sun Bros are cool, fuck out with that

>>382276
I assume we got lots of Official Bowtiesmen.
You're probably the bowtie maker for The North if you're a rat, they're the only place with rats.
The North is where all the cool stuff is happening anyway, welcome.
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>>382274
Asshole
Who
Stared
At
The
Sun
Awsats
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>>382284
Ah yes, you left out the tl part so i was confused and began hunting for a doppeplganger
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>>382281
Thank you mistress I will serve well if not I am worth nothing
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>>382281
Sorry, it's just a bad way to fight a war. Who knows what it'll do to the rats.
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>>382292
Doppleasshole
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>>382298
Yeah
The only drugs that are good for wars are the ones used by people that are losing.
And usually that's like, cocaine.
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>>382292
Oh, Awsatstl doesn't roll of the tongue quit as smoothly.
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>>382270
Your ties! They are not as beatful as the bow ties but so serious and stiff! Perfect for a knight!
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>>382309
You like? Takes real discipline to tie it differently every day.
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>>382317
We can make a holy order of Knights with long ties! They can be the queens sword like how the priest are her words! And you,you can be the leader!
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>>382322
Maybe we can start up an elite crusader knight group next turn called like The Longties.

It'll be a cultural action.
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>>382322
Your getting ahead of yourself I'm just a weirdo with a weird tie.
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>>382303
As a former member of the rat kingdom this true the nobles inhale immense amounts of cocain when stressed
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>>382328
We all are that's what makes us special but you can be even more important
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>>382326
Actually, that's not so bad, they treat tying their ties much like samurai treated taking tea. It's this whole ceremony. anyone can wear a longtie. But only a longtie knight can make it look good.
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>>382334
They can even fight with
Longswords
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>>382337
Of course the first knot any squire learns is the balthus.
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>>382334
The longer the tie the more important the knight
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>>382340
Which itself leads to more complex knots to hold it all.
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>>382340
So a super uber badass would have tie that might touch the floor and a noob would only have a tie that is as long as
There shoulder
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>>382345
They'll have to have special compartments to hold their ties just like how dwarves hold their bears.

You know, so they don't get it tripped over, or have it pulled.

Or Queen forbid have it damaged.
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>>382350
During Combat of course.
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>>382342
And when the tie gets cut in battle it's the squires job to stitch it together
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>>382350
I-I think I just became a lord?
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>>382350
No train them for situations like that in fact have that be major part of their training
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>>382359
Titles are getting handed out fast as we expand northward.
Enjoy your burrow city of rats.
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>>382359
Here's your new set of ties and a new squire 3 concubines and a wife
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>>382360
>>382353
You imbecile, a tie is meant to be tucked into your over coat.
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>>382364
And they're all RATS
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>>382364
All of which are down for an orgy
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>>382368
>>382371
Huh. I'm OK with this. It's not even weird for me.
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>>382366
I'm sorry my lord pls don't kill my family....wait I have a higher position than you haha sorry though
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>>382374
>>382368
speaking of rats how's the liberation going?
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>>382374
>>382378
Welcome to the kingdom
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>>382390
Thank you uhhh who are you?
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>>382394
the other bowtie player, just a simple bowtie skeleton serving our eternal lich goddess/queen
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>>382394
That's a skeleton.
The Queen has a personal army made of them.
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>>382395
Yay skeleies
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>>382378
Whoa, I was just correcting your form.
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>>382398
Thank you
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>>382396
So after this turn how about we research thread magic so we can make cool shit
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>>382390
Glad to be here.
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>>382402
We can't just study any kind of magic.
The only magics that exist are:
-Death
-Blood
-Spirit
-Fire
-Earth
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>>382400
Sorry rat nobles had the tendency to eat the entire famlies of peasents who pissed them of or slightly related to peasents who pissed them off the only reason I survived is because they liked my dresses my father thought I should learn to fight and that tailoring was a useless skill but look at were I am now
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>>382409
even then, magic is blasphemy in our country. anyone but the queen is forbidden from using death magic, and only the priest are permitted lvl 1 fire magic
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>>382409
Hmm, I think I understand why magic is forbidden.
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>>382409
What I'm thinking is living thread so probably spirt
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>>382414
Yeah but even if we do research it, we don't create The Spells, we just unlock the next level of spell which is already pre-determined.

Also we're not very Magic Oriented, it would be better if we didn't delve too hard into new magical arts in favor of material war efforts.
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>>382411
How about letting high level tailors use spirit magic for kil la kil level shit
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Maybe the queen is upset and gathering little boys because she misses the children she ones birthed. Maybe we should use a culture action to declare the queen the national mother of everyone and celebrate a nationwide mothersday for her
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>>382416
Okay
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>>382422
We could, but every turn we spend not breaking rats, they'll be building defenses.
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>>382422
Yea queen for life! She saved me form a life time of servitude and fear!
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>>382426
We could celebrate by breaking rats
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>>382426
True next turn then
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>>382429
>>382428
I'm surrounded by madmen. Awsome!
On another note, I do believe our best bet of pleasing the queen would be a growth in chivalrous behavior and good will towards all sentient beings.
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>>382435
This by no means is a statement that we should end the war. But rather that the rats be treated well when it is over.
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>>382435
>>382438
We fully intend to integrate The Rats into Bowtie society once we beat them.
But I think the only thing that impresses The Queen is The Queen.
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>>382435
We should murder rat nobles though. They actively eat children
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We might also look into what to do about the sea witch and the Giants, now that we know about them from the sunbros, since i doubt we'll be left unrelated to the events
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>>382443
I think having Gunpowder will make a good bolster against Giants.
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>>382439
lets built another queen, frankenstein style and present it to her as a mothersday gift, and demonstrate her mightyness by having it break rats
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>>382447
That would prove we were practicing Death Magic while she wasn't looking though!
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>>382438
Only way we also need to find a way to compensate for rat poverty most rats are very poor so we should lower taxes and intergrate rat currency
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>>382439
I am personally planning festivities when the last of the rats surrender.
>>382443
These could possibly wait until afterwards. The longtie knights are sure to ease the resolution of these conflicts fresh out of war. But not until then, the last thing we need is to strain the empire.
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>>382447
That is death magic though the queen would get mad
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>>382455
That's a nice knot

>>382454
We'll put them in government work programs for building infrastructure to uplift themselves.

Roads, aqueducts, more walls, ect.

Rats are good at mining and Quarrying
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>>382461
True rats are very good workers but what about rat currency they will be made completely bankrupt if we don't intergrate it
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>>382469
Just convert it to Bowtie money.
I believe rats trade with gold, so it wont be hard.
At least that's what they said to The Suns.
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>>382461
And what about the hard working rat merchants who don't practice anything but there trade how will they set up shop
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>>382475
There are very few of them as far as we know.
From what we've studied of The Rats, they're just a labor based society ran by a class of necromancers.

You're sorta pulling a lot of these rat facts out of the blue without OP's knowlege.
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>>382461
Before we culture: longtie knights
We should make it clear that we are fighting a nation, not a people. The rats are not out enemy. Our enemy is the nation that stands against us. That is a very important difference that every person in our nation should acknowledge.
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>>382474
Okay now that that's dealt with bow ties may look like a better life for most rats so we should announce our plans for government projects to help the rats so rebel factions start rising in the rat Kingdom
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>>382479
Yea sorry about that I tend to pull things from my ass alot
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>>382491
Thats kinda hot
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>>382498
Pls no skele I don't want to be boned
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>>382484
The guy that's running the war up north is just called The Marquis so far, and he'll likely be the one officially starting it.

What I elect for The Knights is that they're a national, non-faith based society that has a social standing on par with every other knight in The Realm.

The key factor here is that they're not a Religious organization.

The Queen is the god figure of The State, so making it a religious organization will make her word outweigh the good of The Nation, which she doesn't always seem to be fighting for.

Some basic rules for The Longtie Knights need to be:
-People can join from any social class or gender so long as they're skilled enough to pass an entry test or are sponsored by another knight. Even Rats.
-Even those born into the class need to take the test.
-They serve for the betterment of The Nation, not the agenda of The Queen.
-They must take an oath that keeps them from ever leaving The Order, and erases all past family or class loyalties.
-Longtie Knights d not duel Longtie Knights (That's a common way of solving disputes in The Kingdom)
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>>382512
Oh yeah, and I emphasize The Even Rats thing because right now Rats are at the bottom rung of Bowtie Society.

This will make them have an opportunity to rise, and give off generally good vibes knowing that not even knighthood is denied to them.
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>>382512
Maybe also add a rule forbidding them from having any children of their own nor marry, to make sure they wont hold their own family before the country?
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>>382519
What if we make it to where they can only marry other knights?
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>>382519
"A longtie knight must never place his family in a position to cause his vows harm. Should a longtie knight fail in this, then the knight's family is already dead."
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>>382512
This is good but baron should get top
Vote on this
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>>382528
That sounded a lot nicer in my head.
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>>382512
This sounds good, even the duel part, as duels are biased to the will of gods.
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>>382525
That would work yeah. We could also give them the duty of maintaining the great Walls, our finest product as a great nation. Anyone who betrays the order is a uncondisionary sacrifice to the queen
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>>382540
The Great Walls is actually in The South
We'll make that their peacetime duty, but during wartime they're on The Battlefield.
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>>382540
What if the order comes in direct conflict with the queen? I pray it never happens, but if it should.
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>>382548
I will provide further input come morning. sweet dreams Tie nation.
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>>382558
Night!
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>>382558
I must also sleep may my pepole prosper under the living queen
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>>382668
Thats the plan, best we can do against fucking skyscraper sized giants. But makes more sense to launch the oil using catapults.

Just imagine wind magic was a thing, just coppers acting like flys around the giants being annoying with their swords.
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>>382559
awww our princess has new friends!
>>382675
had to delete, wrong image
anywho for engineer/sir anonymous to see

Tech: create giant ballistas with a windlance mechanic to launch giant bolts

Tech: manufacture and collect pots with animal oils to be set as fire bombs against the giants, mass produce

my 2 cents, i think there are some still some orcs alive, and WE ATTACK ON TITAN NOW
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>>381641
Action: begin grooming large trees to grow to immense proportions that can be uprooted in dire situations.

Tech: invent shields
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>>382706
Yea sounds good
Dem ballistas must be yuuge and we need 3
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>>382706
>>381641
linking turn
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>>381705
>>381641
Turn link.
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Morning, Guys.
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>>384037
My shame.
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>>384044
Your secret is safe with us, short lizard.
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>>384046
Hello
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No thread tonight boys
Pack it up
Tell the orphans they aren't getting adopted today
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>>382054
This sounds good. We should disrupt the gov, incite rebellion and gain support, as well as grow our strength. I suggest we continue disrupting the governments growth either sabotaging/stealing magic or tech research, as well as increasing armies potential with training of tactics and magic and or creating more divisions within government cities to gain more support for the cause and break down their armies moral. We could also start getting the mercenaries on our side with the funds we have raided combined with the lack of funds the government can provide or suggest the clans buy them as foder for their fight against the dominators which will decrease the power of the current government. We could also try to learn blood magic and combine it with our nature magic. To strengthen bounds with the clans and still grow, we could do group training, we're we train the Golden's in our magic and or fighting style, and they train us in theirs they can take it back to their people.
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>>384742
Ah, I've been mostly following your suggestions for our actions. You're a great advisor. Blood magic would be really useful and it'd definitely give us the upper hand.
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>>384742
>>384754
I'm not sure if it'll be that easy to learn blood magic but its worth a shot, at least you can get youth which would fit thematically with the women rebellion, also if you incite enough rebellion you can effectively get rid of the tree's women. no women=no future patriarchal elves
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>>386325
Well if a good number of rebels are copper women it could be simpler to learn it considering blood magic is their specialization.
I think.
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Oh hey, we haven't had our turn yet

whoops
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>>386325
We'll see. If anyone wants to join the cause, I hope they'll be reluctant to see their new leader!
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>>386911
But according to Op
I supply the loyalists
TOP KEK

So its a proxy war of Engineer vs Maidens
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hmm
As a tree fuck since Its ordained by the gods and Opee
lets do something since all loyalists left the thread

So
Action: The engineers train us with crossbows and ballistas. They also use our navy to cut off the supply line of the maidens.

Action: Commandos with engineer equipment go into rebel towns and start fires. They use the new oil the coppers created.
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>>386967
Nigga wat, the trees already got the turn with Elf Presidente
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>>386969
ahh
Thought he was dead
Thought they all were
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>>386974
Plus, since when can you play for both teams
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>>382902
Need help?
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>>386978
Shhhhh
just...
just let it happen
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>>386980
>helping the loyalists when your own realm is being torn asunder by giants
come on now
if anything, you're contributing to your downfall
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>>386983
Theres nothing more we can do
We have prepared
And thats that.. If we die so will the rest of you.

But might as well go out with a bit of fun
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>>386988
Hah, there's a reason why I mentioned disrupting your trade between the loyalists. You'll be too distracted trying to deal with that. If we can scare off rat raiders, your commandos with zero knowledge of the area will easily be dealt with by the maidens who have knowledge of your tactics. Also, wouldn't using fire based weapons be a grave offense to the loyalists as well? I don't see it playing too well if you're burning forest.
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>>386991
>your commandos with zero knowledge of the area
>easily be dealt with by the maidens who have knowledge of your tactics
>You'll be too distracted trying to deal with that

All these delicious Implications
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Ah shit, 2 days without a turn.

>>381641
-weaponize giant sun temple focusing lens
-as now the shamans are naked, learn some new magic, finally, probably, maybe
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>>386997
I'm sure your fellow coppers appreciate the 'help' you're giving them. Especially the Maidens who you're attacking. The Warlord and Maidens have already given their support and are working to fight the giants, while you're off in treeland doing nothing but being an annoying pest. I mean, you already have the experience as one.
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>>386999
>I'm sure your fellow coppers appreciate the 'help' you're giving them. Especially the Maidens who you're attacking. The Warlord and Maidens have already given their support and are working to fight the giants, while you're off in treeland doing nothing but being an annoying pest. I mean, you already have the experience as one.

When will the implications stop
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>>387002
Because that's literally what you're doing. Inciting a civil war while you get fucked by giants because you didn't prepare hard enough.
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>>386999
Do you know who will research the oil?
Do you know who will make Massive wind lance ballistas

Also Sending like 20 men to tree land isn't going abandoning my nation. I mean theres probably hundreds of maidens just wasting their time in tree land already
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>>387006
>didn't prepare hard enough.
I didn't see anyone of the coppers offer a better plan than the one we already have
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>>387012
Probably because you don't discuss tactics with them and you only think of your own faction.
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>>387042
>you only think of your own faction

How pissed off are you about the fact that I want to help the loyalists

How about you propose some tactics for us..
Just give us some ideas
I mean we discussed our plans for hours
But obviously I was just thinking about how to defend my clan so our plans are totally biased towards me
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>>387050
I love how we, the warmongering warlords, arn't the one directly connected to the shit going on with the trees

I wonder if we sided with the mermaids and she summoned giant sea creatures, PACIFIC RIM
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>>387104
well there is one certain engineer sailor who can tell us
:^)
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>>387119
I expect the certain engineer sailor to be just a floating carcass right now
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>>387125
Hopefully his final hours were pleasurable
:^^^)))))
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>>386967
>Mfw engineers think they're anything other than trade partners
>Mfw if they buy stuff from you the shipments would get stolen by the rebels
>thinking they'd use crossbows when they have elven quality bows
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>>387179
Hey Warlord

What if our plan to kill the giants doesn't work?
Do we ally with the sea wench
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>>387200
If your plan to kill the giant fails then most likely the giants'll kill you
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>>387200
Depends on how fucked we are. Also depends if the giants dont want to kill us but instead subjugate us to help them take over the world. Considering what we know about them that is.
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>>387210
if the suns develop enough magic to possess giants WE PACIFIC RIM NOW

>>387214
We serve giants
Fuck mermaids
Kill each other
Rewrite turns

Such is life in coppernica
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Friendly reminder that OP killed tree nation because he disagreed with player actions and any tree loyalists still playing are wasting their time and will lose because muh misogyny
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An hour and 30 minutes til update, lads
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>>387477
Wew
Early Today

>>387475
Kek
Niggers still think the best way to avoid revolts is become a police state.
The most prone to revolting state of existence for all nations.
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>>387475
You sound mad friend
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One question
Is why is Opee always drawn as female?
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>>387568
Because OP is secretly a girl and models The Queen after herself.
Everyone calls her a boy though.
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>>387572
Oh cool
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>>386988
>>386991
I made this suggestion before but what we could do to come to an agreement is that we cut keep attacking the loyalists supplies which removes their ability to afford the mercenaries. We use these stolen goods to barter with the copper engineers for supplies, and they and the maidens can afford to buy the mercenaries to fight back home
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>>387606
The engineers get a new trade partner with a better deal, friendlier relationship with the other clans, and ability to get more disposable soldiers for their homeland. I believe this to be agreeable in game
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>>387568
Opee is actually a french lesbian, this is fact
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>>386980
You dont really have to join our faction to help us out, any discussion with what you think about the plans will be is fine with me. Im just trying to get ready to defend against the giants while simultaneously trying to deal with the rebellion. Once the rebellion is over i honestly think that the primary objective is to help other nations prepare their defences, probably by growing ents in their territories. Going by the map it looks like if the giants succeed in their conquests, the tree lands will be the last to be targeted if they can't cross the sea, so the tree nation has time to make defences, but if the rebellion succedes we will go back several steps in magic and our ability to defend our lands will be comprimised. We need to end this civil war as soon as possible, so that we can concentrate on helping defend all of humanity.

IMO i think that, if the situation is near hopeless, the coppers should start making arrangements with the sun tribe to have a full scale evacuation plan for civillians into the sun lands.
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>>387693
Obviously the solution is to turn the entire copper nation in a giant bomb. Rig every building with explosives then escape to the sea
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>>387693
If things turn bad
The engineers gonna turn to the lake witch
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>>387693
Pic related will be our faces if the giants go genocide and they slap our shit too hard for us to fight back.
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>>387767
>fight giants
>they kill everyone
>help sea bitch
>destroy the land again

There is no escape
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>>381641

Well okay since talking to the sea queen is free

A noble from the voting families strolls up to hey

"The engineers will help you as allies If we lose the future engagement, But you must marry into our clan and provide an heir which will be our leader possibly "

Gotta secure the future boys Dont hate
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>>387795
>possibly
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>>387795
>She accepts
>The kid is a mermaid
>The future leader of The Engineers can't drive a steam car
>Engineer clan splits into loyalists and usurpers.
>Two new clans that are like Engineers
>But they're shittier
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>>387795
The only men the queen is intrested in are shotas and skeletons. Rip random copper they sent towards her.
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>>387807
He said Sea Queen.
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>>387807
I just realized he was talking to the sea queen, please excuse my retardation.
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>>387811
Perhaps the sea queen is only interested in Sea Men
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>>387799
:^)
Heres your (You)
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alright let's get to it
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@387818
Thanks for the (You)
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>>387817

:^)
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>>387821
Hi Opee
We're just talking about how many men would we need to please a whole giant.
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>>387830
Hes a big guy
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>>387838
Okay so get this
A diving team of Prostate punchers ascends in the middle of battle.
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>>387843
not you too!
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>>387846
Immagination is a powerful thing Opee
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>>387846
THEY WONT TALK ABOUT LOLIS WITH ME
WHAT ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO DOOOOO
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>>387693
I do agree with the presidente that we should help all nations in defeating the dominators and that either side would help at the end of our civil war.
I however have no intention on giving up on my people to the loyalists so we could either end this fight with one side taking over completely which will take many turns depending on how things go, or we can reach a compromise between us, ending our fighting in one or two turns.
What I suggest for the compromise is that the nation is devided in two and we would agree upon mating and trading terms and discontinue our raids. We effectively will act as a either a separate nation or like the clans do. We can start working together towards defending against the dominators and always start our war again later if things get bad.
If you agree that this will work for you, we will need to lay the grounds for this lay of arms between the two factions that operates will accept. We need at least a strong leader, a bit more might and a government for your loyalists to accept us as a threat and find our terms agreeable. We both need to reach out diplomatically to agree apoun these turn and loyalist will probably need to take an action or something to convince it's people it's for the better.


A divide in our nation with agreeable terms for both will end our civil war quicker and allows us to our military might being less compromised than a successful overthrow of either side.

I'd like for the opinions of both entler and presidente
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>>387850
Well, not think about prostate massages, for one
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>>387865
But what else happens in The Hot Springs?
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>>387846
Opee, if our nation splits in two, would we have separate turns from the loyalists or would we act as the clans do and agree apoun our turns together, or simply do as we have been doing.
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enough memes. Let's actually do this
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>>387891
Perfecto
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>>387880
Steam, lots of steam
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>>387900
When The Steam rises
Nobody can see your sin
The Sun demands it
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>>387920
hehe, rat-fish orgy
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>>387856
This isn't something we can do right now, at this stage of the war. You have already attacked our leaders and are about to raid our lands this turn, so allowing such a transgression to go unpunished will give rise to unrest among the population. We ahve already demonized your forces through a propaganda campaign, to allow you to have the land you seceded with would show a weakness in our government, and we might even have a 2nd rebellion clambering to change the government to fight you for our land back. Your lands represent the gateway to the rest of the world by land, and as favorible it would be for a buffer state to exist between us and the rest of the world, the fact is that you take resources and working people away from us by seceding at a time when we need to have as much resources and manpower as possible to prepare ourselves for the defence of the giants.

This simply is not the time for diplomacy; the gears of war are already in motion, and to leave it like this would spell disaster for my nation. Perhaps we can talk about this when the war has gone on long enough for our citizens to grow tired of it.
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turn 15 end!

The hostilities have begun to escalate in the treelands!

The sisterhood of spies decided to elevate the most charismatic of them as a hero, a federating figure for their cause. She leads ambushes and raids deep in the loyalist lands, making her name known and using her fame to recruit partisans in her wake.

As a response the elves concentrated on huge treants of magical talents to protect the cities from invaders. The rebels were forced to retreat wherever these formidable beings were planted. The loyalist troops started giving shields to their general infantry to protect them from the raiders' bows. The troops themselves do not need it though, wearing thick and weightless magical bark armor.

this year, the rebels made slight progress over the loyalists, but it has been stopped by their new treants.
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>>387992
neat
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>>387992
Hey opee, what size are these trees?
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>>387990
Thank you for your response and insight. I agree that for now it will be difficult to come to terms. May both out sides put up a good fight for our own beliefs
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>>387856
>>388038
There is no giving up on our side, otherwise we'll be put into prison and the process starts itself anew again.
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>>387992
Great preparations were made throughout the lands to protect the frontier against the gigantic threat. The huge ballistae and firebombs pointed at them made the giants think twice, and they stopped their advance a little bit out of reach of the weapons.

The coppers where enthralled by this victory and celebrated, before a booming, deafening shriek came from the wastelands.
"MORTAL FILTH! YOU ARE OURS TO PLAY WITH. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM HURTING US, EXCEPT MORE PAIN FOR YOURSELVES! DISASSEMBLE YOUR TOYS, BOW TO YOUR MASTERS, AND SOME OF YOU WILL BE SPARED!"

what a party pooper.

Also, a crazy engineer proposed to the Sea Queen by sending a love letter in a bottle to the sea. Everyone expected another gutting, so it was quite a surprise to hear they actually got married. The Sea Queen (with legs, apparently) took residence in an engineer family manor.
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>>388068
spoopy
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>>388068
HOWDY HOO
WE GOTTA FIGHT COPPERS TOO
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>>388068
>"MORTAL FILTH! YOU ARE OURS TO PLAY WITH. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM HURTING US, EXCEPT MORE PAIN FOR YOURSELVES! DISASSEMBLE YOUR TOYS, BOW TO YOUR MASTERS, AND SOME OF YOU WILL BE SPARED!"
Suck meh dick nigga

The engineer was never seen again
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>>388079
The ocean must be destroyed, starting from land
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>>388079
If it's against the rats and engineers, we'll definitely support you.
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>>387992
So our focus now should be increasing our fighting capabilities and increasing our strength as a faction and as a nation.
As a definite first action I suggest we set up magic co-op training with the maidens so we can teach them tree magic and they teach us blood magic. This strengthens both of our combat abilities and increases the clans fighting power.
Our next action should either be finding a way to deal with the end by researching wilting type of tree magic (possibly going along with blood magic)or nature possession, practicing new anti sent tactics ( either ways to conceal presence like forest walk magic or burnimg arrow extra) or stealing the entire magic from the loyalists and using it for both defense and or controling their end.
We should also look for creating trading ties with the engineers as a free talk action. From their we help them take the mercenaries in following turns
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>>388092
What we took over The Rats
Then we mined The Mountains flat
AND THEN FILLED IN THE OCEAN WITH THE MOUNTAINS
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>>388113
GENIUS
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>>388068
Hearing tales of the west, the shamans improved their sun defenses by adding more lenses.
They had to stop heating the spas at noon because it evaporated everything and made the spa caretakers angry.

Shamans have discovered a new magic by accidentally walking into the laser beams one too many times!

sun magic tier 5: transcendance!
by performing a difficult and life-threatening task, the mage transcends to the spirit realm, giving it the power of flight, the strength of a bear and the power to throw kinetic balls of energy.
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>>388100
No burning arrows or fire at all. Stealing the magic and repurposing it as our own would be ideal. I definitely agree we should be training more with the Maidens while our next action should be going after the Loyalist magic.

No deal to the engineers unless they want to actually support us instead of hindering us.
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>>388149
We super saiyan now
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>>388165
Keep studying it
I bet the last level is a Spirit Bomb
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>>388169
>sun style spirit bomb
>sucks up the souls of everyone on the continent to blow it up
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>>388158
Well give us money and I'll give you better weapons and supplies
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Rolled 52, 21 = 73 (2d100)

bowties: attack!

attackers:
attacking(-20) + surprise(+20) + troop quality(+10) + wizard power gap(+30) = +40!
defenders:
defending:???(+30) + morale(-10) + troop quality(15) = +35!
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>>388196
Huhu, our troop quality may have shot down, but we suffered no negatives for lack of reinforcements.
All in all a good call.

BOWTIES RULE
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>>388190
In particular, I would want a couple of those giant crossbows so we can deal with the Ents and have a siege option too. Unless you cut off supplies to the loyalists entirely, we'll only give you money then and there'll be plenty of it from raiding.
>>388100
Unfortunately, we can only do up to two actions per turn. There's no way to do all that is planned while the Loyalists keep adapting unless we get better at the tech and magic game.
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>>388149
The expansion into the ratlands must continue. The Marquis started restructuring the inquisition and planning the work of ratmen. Until one day...

"I need everyone you can send to the waterfront! All the inquisitors! I'm attacking the sea!"
It's as if the Queen just woke up to the situation. She was clearly in panic, but nothing the Marquis could say went through.
"It started! it's happening! And after all this time preparing I'm not ready!"

the Marquis kept all the men he could in ratbane, but it was merely enough to maintain a garrison. He himself had to go west to overview the waterfront defenses while the Queen walked underwater with her impressive bone army.

The Marquis was baffled, to say the least. But he did not pretend to understand Her godly reasoning.

From what little information went back to the shore, it seems the Queen has found and beaten enemies down there. But the Marquis is worried. Should something bad happen, She is in no hope of reinforcements down there.
Unless she finds enough bones...

turn 16 start!
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>>388264
SHE DOES NOTHING FOR US
AND STEALS OUR MEN
TO GO FIGHT SHIT SHE WONT TELL US ABOUT
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>>388274
How about we start emptying all the graveyards in our country and dumb the bones into the ocean?
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>>388186
Never forget
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>>388280
Shit son, I just wanna conquer rats instead of have out progression stopped by a shota fucker when we're getting close.

We're close, what magical shit does Opee have waiting at Rat Lands that they insist on keeping us from conquering even though we've already beat them to shit twice.

I'm pissed like a Public pool right now, fuck.
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>>388291
It's Master Splinter, the rats secret trump card
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>>388264
Opee, did we actually do the training thing, or was our entire turn railroaded by Queen existing.
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>>388302
half of it.

you were warned far ahead that the Queen had all powers if you let her be
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>>388302
You should usurp the throne at this point.
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>>388319
Well I have half a mind to march the men back to The Capital and set someone else on The Throne while she screws at the sea at this point. We got a massive wall and two forts there to protect it if she tries to come back as is.

Where's Marques's Grandson anyway?
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>>388328
Just put a wig on the Marquis, nobody will notice
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>>388338
Some will.
Nobody can do the dead eyes like Queen can.
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Whats the plan coppers?
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>>388158
Agree. Should we infiltrate and steal the magic or kidnap some during a raid to get the secret.
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>>388328
I think its best to stay loyal to the queen. Now that we're pretty late in the game and we've been supporting her since the beginning, i dont think its a good idea to start a revolution. We should strenghten our waterfront in preperation, but we can also send back some of the forces to ratsbane to make sure the rats dont try anything while we're gone
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>>388343
Insult the Giants
Kill said Giants with giant ballistas
Fugg the sea queen and live happily ever after
xD

But we should research gunpowder
And build more ballistas
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>>388213
I simply list out possibilities to choose from and possibilities for the future. I suppose we should. Do combined magic training and sent magic stealing
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>>388328
he's at the palace, in his quarters.
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>>388348
Well it wont be a revolution, it'll be an usurpation.
The only issue is that she's also a god head.

You know what.
I bet she's invading The Sea Queen right now.
I bet she knows that The Mermaid left The Sea to go up to live in Copper land and she's attacking her forces while she's away.
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>>388354
They seem to be somewhat worried. Maybe now is the time to negotiate with them as to their true intensions right now. Also tell them about the sea queen.
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>>388354
Obviously, you build a giant statue of your own to mock the giants.

But install the ballistas into its crotch
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>>388356
Opee, is the ocean still in turmoil or has it calmed down?
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>>388365
What if she left to retake the artifact from the tribal days and desink the old island.
Everyone lives happily after
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>>388380
I don't know if that's how that works but regardless.
We as a people have been burning our dead for a long ass time.

What we haven't been doing though, is massive clean up duty for Battlefields.

If we want more bones to toss in The Water, we can get them from there.
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>>388395
We could also proclaim the grandson as a regent in the queen's absence. This way when the Queen comes back with an army of the undead we won't have to fight her and lose one of our greatest assets +our unliving god.
If she does get angry, the grandson has the most chance of being spared.
Although this could risk the marquise being held responcible, and losing him could greatly affect our warfront too...
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>>388410
The Grandson is a kid.
You don't make kids regents, you make regents for kids.

See what's going down is that we're drawing real close to The End, and and truth, we're not going to get to conquer The Rats because now we're in a position that by the time The Queen is done doing her business The Quest will end.

At least that's how I see it happening.

In that, it really doesn't matter if we lose The Marquise or not because the chances of us returning to The Rat Front seems fucked like broken dreams.
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>>388367
>negotiate
As soon as we put our guard down we dead
I mean we can't just quickly reposition our ballistas
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>>388424
So what do we do?
We could look for an allience with the suntribe against whatever is in the sea?
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>>388447
Well considering that The Suns have their laser beams they could start shooting The Water and our bones wouldn't be effected because they're bones,but if they're fighting fish men down there then those fishes would be fucked.

We gotta cement a regency, so right now I think we should get Marque's Grandson to marry The Princess as a cultural action and then we'll have both the most powerful families in The Queendom supporting a Marque's regency.

Then as an action we should start digging up battlefields and dumping their bones into The Ocean for our queen.
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>>388477
We need a tech tho, but those sound like good options.
We can use the free action to talk with the suns about the posibility of an allience
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>>388488
Oh yeah, we can use a free action to do that, huh?
Well yeah, we can ask The Suns to help.
I think they can still posses giant crabs?
We'll kill the sea together!
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>>388292
Tech Action: Train with the Maidens to learn their blood magic while we teach them Earth magic to help in their war against the giants.
Action: Use our most experienced spies to steal the loyalist magic. If we can control the Ents as well, they'll be nigh useless for them.
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>>388434
Lets go on the offense then, make even more of the massive ballista but also add wheels on them. We go in, if the initial push fails they'll get enraged and walk right into our ballista wall letting us shoot them already weakened. We cant just let them camp out there possibly even waiting for more of them.
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>>388513
Giving you copper magic is down to our decision
Also we can't use your magic because we don't have gods
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>>388519
I don't see Copper Maiden in your name.
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>>388517
As I said we make more ballista a to make the ballista wall and I think we should stay back.
We know there's only 3 because they our old masters
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>>388523
You can't have our magic
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>>388511
For tech maybe building a SeaBane fortress
Or preparing a means to evacuate our people if we somehow end up destroying our lands again/get defeated by witch and giants
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>>388533
Must be easy to post from a phone.
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>>388523
I don't need a maiden here to tell you that you can't have it

It's copper nation magic
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>>388539
You aren't the faction I'm dealing with. There's no can't when you're separate entities. Unless you want to continuously antagonize me while your die to giants, that's your fault for not accepting help.
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>>388538
You fucking bet
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>>388533
>1 post by this id
>>388539
Oh look, you're phoneposting and forgot to change your name after turning your wifi back on.
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>>388547
You know according to your logic. I can give all our tech and magic to the bow ties and the other coppers couldn't be able to argue
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>>388557
I'm shitposting to prove a point
I even said so
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>>388536
Building a fortress would be an action I believe. If we want to evacuate and keep things safe though, we can study rats and learn how to live underground.

The Giants can't kill us if they cant FIND US
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>>388622
Genius.
Well build an underground Necropolis
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>>388627
And if that fails we can always tunnel out.

BOWTIES RULE

So we good on the turn?
Culture: Combine The Great Families to make Marquies Regent.
Tech: Develop Underground Settlements.
Free Diplomacy: Ask Suns in help for war

If so then I'll write up a proper turn report.
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>>388565
I've been thinking, the sea queen is literally on land not very protected. We can take out 2 birds with one stone this turn and attempt an assassination on her. Naturally if it fails the 3 clans deny any involvement and make sure the guy we send doesn't have anything that could link us.
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>>388647
yeah, i support
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>>388655
Does the diplomacy action count towards sending money to other nations? I'm willing to bargain with the Warlord Clan but not the engineers. If we could have your vote in the matter, it's 2 to 1 with the Warlords and Maidens against the engineers. With the money, you'll be able to buy mercenaries to help beat the giants. Does this sound like a fair deal?
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>>388655
You could try hiring a tree merc or assassin to do the job.
Their fleed did get destroyed right after she left
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>>388655
Umm how about no
If the ballistas fail and we kill her then

We fucked
Also she may not be that evil now that I control her.
Also since we I made our deal clear. If we win against the Giants she won't do anything but be happy and be a hot waifu
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>>388662
>>388655
If you take this deal
I'll crash this nation with no survivors
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>>388662
Its still in diplomacy so it should work, you're talking about selling you guys more stuff? I'd agree to it since.
>>388676
I'd rather deal with her since she's so dangerous. She cant help with the giants also as the bowtie queen is wrecking her fishmen.
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>>388682
They want our advanced magic..
For money
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>>388691
If they also teach us their magics I wouldnt mind. But really they can probably get it anyways from the maidens without our consents easily enough. Think of an ingame perspective.
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>>388292
Redo.
Diplomacy Action: Send money from raiding to the Warlord Clan in exchange for help and their support.
Tech Action: Train with the Maidens to learn their blood magic while we teach them Earth magic to help in their war against the giants.
Action: Use our most experienced spies to steal the loyalist magic. If we can control the Ents as well, they'll be nigh useless for them.
>>388715
Ah, it's good to work together. Thanks for the help.
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>>388734
I'm afraid you dont get a free diplo action like us as you dont have the embassy. Also our forces are kinda needed here so if you wanted help the best we could give you is more equipment.
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>>388715
Well then I'm crashing this "nation" with no survivors since no one actually cares about state secrets.

I just hope you survive warlord, I'll stand with you against the Giants. But I want the tree people's dead now. So if we lose against the Giants, I will serve them on the one condition... death of the tree rebels
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>>388292
Bowtie Turn:
Culture: Marry off The Marquis's Grandson to The Princess to establish an all powerful joint noble house with The Firstborn for supporting The Marquis's regency. They shall wear their own bowtie color.

Tech: Observe and learn how to replicate the underground societies in The conquered Rat Lands. Learn how they live underground as to allow us the ability to do the same in a state of emergency.

Free Diplomacy: Ask The Suns if they will help us fight The Sea. Finally we can destroy the common enemy together.
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>>388368
EY YO SUNS
WANNA FIGHT THE SEA?
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>>388734
Isn't dIplomacy a cultural action? I thought it was a free action only if you have established an embassy?
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>>388765
I'd like to teach you blood magics
Also I'll have my navy to destroy the rebels. I have the sea queen so I'll fuck them to hell
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>>388768
Thanks man. As a token of my goodwill i'd like to offer our magicians to develop ent defences in your lands and i'm willing to extend the offer to anyone else who would help undermine the rebels.
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Posting what ideas we have for when the other coppers come.

Build more ballistas for the defense against the dominaters.

Try to assasinate the sea queen since shes on land in the copper nation

Attack the giants with wheeled ballistas to bait them into coming towards the ballista wall
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>>389660
Oh hey
Just as a reminder
When The Mermaid visited The Trees she went about seducing their leaders.
If you wanna stay safe and keep your people from something bad happening to them you might need to keep her controlled.
Or dead.
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>>388764
we too wish to murder the sea and its evil darkness. After that is done we will fight our other nemesis, the moon
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>>389906
Thats why I want to deal with her, Dominaters show up, oh look now I marry some random engineer. I smell some sabotage next turn if we dont deal with her.
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>>389939
>assassinate sea bitch
>"lmao if you kill me i win"
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>>389939
That might just be enough sabotage for the giants to stomp all over.
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>>389939
DON'T LET HER SEDUCE THE GIANTS
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>>389953
Imagine, giant-fish hybrids. Created for the sole purpose of destroying mankind
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>>389660
You could have the sun embassies tell the bowtie queen were the fish queen is.
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>>389957
That would lead to the queen invading copper lands
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>>389957
You can't use other nations as medians for embassy communication.
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>>389963
You can, but it wouldn't be a free action
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>>389965
Which is weird, because if you're going to spend an action, it's jut like sending it yourself.

Except now you're making other people waste their turn for it!
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>>389966
Actually, eveybody would lost an action if that's the course of action, at least that's what I got from what Opee said.
Like:
- [nation] uses one of their actions to tell suns to tell [other nation] something
- Suns use one of our actions to tell [other nation] that something
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No body is killing the sea queen
I'm crashing this civ with no survivors if a maiden shows up and gives the trees our magic

Why would we even consider giving away our magics when we can't learn other magics because we don't believe in gods.
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>>389989
But you were the one telling the trees you'd give them magics in the first place
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>>389994
No
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>>389998
Then what about wanting to teach trees bood magics
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>>389999
Well the rebels are getting it from the maidens if a maiden allows

So why not give the loyalists to screw up the rebels

This of course only if the maidens give them our magic
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>>390001
I'm also not comfortable wiht teaching the tress blood magic, plus the fact that I doubt it would work, anywho

The problem with assassinating the queen is i doubt we'd be able to kill her anyways since she's a big npc, besides the fact that if the giants do fuck us up to the ground, we won't have any second choice whatsoever

this all smells like we're gonna be led by one party or another to fuck things up for the other things, but thats a problem with later

for the giants I propose we launch an attack while theye still far away because once they get near they can just slam us with their giant weapons and we're dead, we can try talking with them though since it seems theyre capable of reason like what the fuck do they plan to do
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>>390021
>I'm also not comfortable wiht teaching the tress blood magic, plus the fact that I doubt it would work, anywho
Thank you

Finally some sense
So we outvote the warlords
The maidens aren't here so we control them since they are copper

I rate if we attack they'll smash us
We try reason with them or shoot them ballistas when they are in range


So my plan is

Action: Build more ballistas. A second row of ballistas.

I want tons of them ballistas

Tech: Fast reload mechanism for Ballistas
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>>390026
I think we should do something about the mermaid queen though, maybe keep her in check while at the same time spoiler her with things she might enjoy to keep her in check/distracted
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>>390030
Well yeah
As a free
The engineers build a special car for the engineer and his sea queen wife
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>>390032
lastly, maybe ask the orc that survive/female one in captivity about the dominators? anyways lets wait for the others to see what we wanna do
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>>390035
or not, since opee might come tonight

Action: Gather information about the dominators from the captured orcs, the scouts still remaining in the west, and the heavily pampered mermaid queen

Tech: Fast reload ballistas
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>>390035
>orc that survive/female one in captivity about the dominators?
she died

>>390056
>Action: Gather information about the dominators from the captured orcs, the scouts still remaining in the west, and the heavily pampered mermaid queen
We probably know more about them since they were our masters
Also the orc is dead
we dont have any

I'd rather build more ballistas and pamper the queen
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>>390062
action: keep a close eye while pampering the mermaid queen to distract her from her nefarious plans

tech: create more Fast Reload Ballistas™
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>>373468

>rat meme

jesus christ what have i missed out over the past few months
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>>390077
>action: keep a close eye while pampering the mermaid queen to distract her from her nefarious plans
Why
She is with her husband which I control

Lets build more ballistas dammnit
I dont wanna lose against the giants
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>>390080
Nobody controls the queen, she's an NPC
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>>381705
>Inquisition

we should rename them as the Holy Inquisition and label rats and traitors as "Heretics"

don't forget the Chaos rats too
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>>390080
>>390082
PLus, remember the last time when she seduced someone? Their entire navy was destroyed
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>>390080
she could be just using you like the treetards awhile back though, but lets ask copper warlord what he prefers for votings sake, if he doesnt appear when opee appears (I'll probably be sleeping by then) go do what you prefer
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>>388068
kek when will the copperfags build THE WALL
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>>390082
Did I say I control her?
The husband is basically the best spy ever so we dont need to keep a close eye

anything she does will pop up in the update
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>>390089
Yeah, including murdering the husband
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>>390090
Such is life in coppania

Why would she do that when she could have done that when he proposed like the drunk sailor who got gutted
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>>390090
>>390089
>>390085
So we all agree to murder that bitch?
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>>390097
The ocean must be destroyed
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>>390095
Drunk Sailor proposed like a dumbass which insulted her. Engineer didn't so she opted to use him as a way to manipulate the coppers from the inside for some good old sabotaging, like when she visited the trees
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>>390097
No
Lets kill the real heretic
The Bowtie Queen
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>>390107
When he's no longer useful, duh. Same thing happened to the sea bitch's apprentice back in Island Days
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>>390105
Kill yourself

Glory be to the God Empress of Bowkind


>>390101
Bowtie flleet in transit.
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>>390110
You dont know that mane..
Maybe she hates suns
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>>390114
She is literally a chaotic queen
She's a heretic mane
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>>390117
And that's why we will kill the ocean, and her too. Why haven't you figure this out yet.
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>>390121
She's the bowtie's literal God-Queen
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>>390122
So far all I've seen is the Empress do dumb shit, so maybe we'll revolt and get a God Emperor

>>390121
Did OP draw a map of this game?
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>>390122
Everyone hates the suns though

They literally have no impact in the game
and are dangerously irrelevant .. :^)
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>>390126
Dont give a damn man
some warlords are still at war with the bowties apparently
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>>390134
What the fuck the rats memed so hard that they have a fucking homeland now

I'm actually laughing

Do sunfags get to fight kelp?
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>>390135
Nah we just eat them llike usual. And use them as collectibles
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>>390134
Wrong map soz man
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So
We killing the bowtie queen right?
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>>390085
My vote is for trying to kill her. I also support the ballista reload mechanism.
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>>390168
rip coppania
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Well then our turn must be

Action: Warlords try to kill sea queen.. Engineers triple the guards around her and move lots of troops to her manor

Tech: Fast reload mechanism for the ballistas
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Also all coppers are forbidden from sharing our magic with outsiders
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>>390206
Tl;dr Engineers protect her
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>>390208
That's a cutural action
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>>390206
Wew, guess its bad to want to vote to assasinate the one that sunk our original home and thats very untrustworthy. Even if I wasn't outvoted to just distract her thats blatant meta right there if I choose to do it solo and you added guards.
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>>390219
This will just bring the country back to its civil war state
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>>390221
Thats why I said if I choose to. I dont try to blatantly do what the other coppers dont want when we have a established turn. I'm simply calling him out on what if.
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>>390226
Well do you want to assassinate her or not?

I dont want to...

She's in my hold..And she is a citizen now
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>>390233
If a majority want to do it then we do it, if not then we dont do it. Thats how I've always been in this game. Just dont be surprised if something happens regarding her.
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>>390240
>Just dont be surprised if something happens regarding her.
I won't

Can we just focus on the giants for now
Even if she does something it'll be to the engineers so you are risk free
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>>390240
Probably'll give everyon fishAIDS or something
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>>390241
I already said I support the fast reloading crossbows. I already know what your doing for the second one. I'm just worried she'll pull some shit at the ballista wall or with the giants leading to the firing line getting smashed.
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>>390252
I want to build a second line of giant ballistas

and research the fast reload
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>>390256
Alright then lets do that, she cant fuck up both lines in the same year if something happens and if the giants get through they cant just waltz in with the second line. Assuming both dont happen in the same year.
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okay so

Action: Build a second line of GIGANTIC Ballistas.

Tech: Research a fast reload mechanism for our Ballistas

Also side note for Tree rebel turn.. The coppers dont want the trees to learn our magic. Anything they say is null and void
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>>390280
>>388292
I'm just going to link it.
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>>387776
Ascended beeings don't give a fuck.
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>>390290
Ty
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>>390292
We must ascend into the stars.

So we can kill the moon
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>>388292
-Spirit scout to find any nefarious schemes happening
-Put laser beams onto wall
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>>390357
h-hey I'm back again. this time for good because I finally have a stable internet connection again.

What did I miss?
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>>390293
>>390241
well this might work for the better, if she betrays eng at least we can be united wiht the bows suns and trees on hating her (though it looks like the trees don't give a fuck about it) also its funny how the trees kept crying about "muh mysgonstic nature wont let me change :(" when we have a semi united clan with festivals and shit
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>>390374
We unlocked our ascended form
Sea Bitch is back and she married one of the copper engineers
Ancient Giants are coming to buttfuck everyone
Bowties are engaging in a winning war against the rats
Bowtie Queen has taken troops to fight the ocean
Trees are split into rebels and loyalists
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>>390393
basically copperland becoming a warland between water and giants soon
suns going FULL POWAH
bowties getting mad at their queen, queen mad at ocean, bowties mad at rats
trees in a civil shitstorm
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>>390394
so basically we should be helping the eternal queen in her fight to kill the ocean?
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>>390401
Varying degrees of fucked
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>>390402
Where will I get meh fish and chips if the ocean is dead
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>>390402
Meta-wise, yes. But in gameplay our nation has not known about her going on a crusade yet.

That's what I was hoping the spirit scouting would discover.

If not then we'll jsut use the embassy to ask everyone wassup again
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>>390401
>>390374
whoops linked the wrong person

>>390404
except you guys apparently

>>390280
>>388292
free embassy turn: ask the super sunyans for help/prepare for trouble
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>>390408
We're sending an Embassy action this turn to tell you about Water War.
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>>390411
aight
>>390409
We stay safe through our irrelevancy
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>>390409
Fuck you're right, I forgot about the supersuns. If they send a few to help we'll be considerably less fucked if more giants show up. Assuming they want to do so.
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>>390419
dont forget their weaponized lasers, though i doubt they can use it at super long range, although...they may be able to use it and blind the giants enough that they can bring down their guard...

lastly we should opt to create some kind of evacuation plan in case shit hits the fan
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>>390414
yeah just send some embassy actions out towards everyone, also ask them if someone needs help. we can be powerful if we want to. through the power of magic.
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>>390435
I wonder if you mount laser lenses on your hands
Can your energy blasts become laser blasts?
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>>390441
from super saiyans to ironmans real quick

>>390414
we didnt even want to be sandwhiched between giants and mermaid tits
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>>390445
Hmmm. Threesome
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>>390445
To be fair were sandwiched because the coppers are usually in a constant state of being fucked. First civil war, then orcs came and fucked everything up. Now ancient giants that pussy out when they see we actually have weapons that can kill them. As is life in the copper lands.
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>>390456
>>390461
such is life in Coppania
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>>390461
What if The Giants are just slow as balls
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>>390474
That's probably the only reason they haven't slapped our shit. They need to get pincushioned if they want to get through with their speed.
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>>388734
It seems as though several of the clans disagree with our magic exchange and it is quite possible that they will not be able to use our magic if it is indeed tied to religion. So as not to mess up our relationship with the clans, we should consider an alternative action.
I was thinking that if our magic is earth base, and not just nature, we can learn move earth magic, which can be used to dig tunnels to infiltrate or capture their cities and villages, create traps like pitfalls with spike covered in shit at the bottom, and defensively used for walls and trenchs. Tunnels could allow covert infiltration and a turn could be used later to find female and male sympathizers that can be used to operate and convert cities, or another could be to have troops surprise rush cities from the tunnels. These tunnels could be booby traped if enemies discover.
Think Vietcongs
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>>390666
Or we simply make tunnels the old fashion way.
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Thread tonight?
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>>390865
I doubt it. I think that Opee just had last wensday off because of Bastille day.
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>>391011
Was she in Nice :^)
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>>391047
>she
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>>391170
Isn't She a french lesbian according to the ancient texts
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>>391186
You'll still have to refer to Opee as he though, the ancient texts also said so
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>>390865
Opee never did threads on wensdays
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>>391204
He is a french lesbian who loves muslims?
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>>391219
The muslims part wasn't in the ancient texts
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>>391249
but surely if one is a french lesbian then it implies that one thinks muslim refugees aren't a threat to europe
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>>391280
Where did you get that from
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>>391304
Reddit and tumblr
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>>391316
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>>391324
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>>391329
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>>391047
family was. they're ok.
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>>391371
cool
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>>391371
thread tomorrow?
are the coppers gonna get steamrolled?
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>>391377
yes
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>>391382
Yes to which one though
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>>391384
The first
and the last
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>>391384
both
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>>391386
>>391391
fasntnig
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>>388292
>>390666
Alright, redo again. It's a good thing Opee doesn't update on Wednesdays.

Tech: We need to work on investing in our own branch of Earth magic. Instead of focusing on trees like the loyalists, let's invest it into moving the earth. We'll use it for trenches, tunnels, walls, etc.
Action: Use our most experienced spies to steal the loyalist magic. If we can control the Ents as well, they'll be nigh useless for them.
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>>391936
I thought the spells you got from the tiers of magic were pre-determined.
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>>392793
Is it? My actions will have to be redone again if that's the case.
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>>392794
It is, that's why any magic research is "hope for something good" and not "specific magic"
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>>392838
hoping for something good is a legit strategy though
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>>392918
Who said it wasn't
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>>392927
I love to tell myself that we've got a great strategy going on here
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>>392928
"Do random shit and hope for the best" - Confusun
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Might not have a thread tonight, lads. Opee's too hot.
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>>392975
2 hot
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>>388292
Action: Start conquest of major food producing areas in Rebel held territory.

Action: Begin attacking any convoys heading to bring supplies to the rebels.
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>>392975
Too hot you say...
:^)

Wtf Am i doing with my free time
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>>393158
>Wtf Am i doing with my free time

wasting your life away on unimportant matters that will never have any meaningful impact on the world

Ya know, like most of us
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>>393158
I think I just a got a new fetish

Girls in flag bikinis
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Thread 2night
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>>396092
can't wait!
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New thread pls
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I am there!

wait we need a new thread don't we
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>>396895
YEah probably
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>>396906
alright what should I draw in the OP http://poal
.me/g2f875
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>>396937
steve is the only correct answer opee
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>>396956
this
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>>396937
I almost chose the Queen Underwater because I misread it as the Queen Underwear
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>>396956
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>>396976
>>>397054



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