Archive:http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=left%20beyond>>343812Wiki:http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.LeftBeyond.htmlAll prophecies but one have come to pass. Yahweh has flattened the Earth, elevated Greater Jerusalem above all nations, and the Bible heroes rule the world from Ezekiel's Temple.The last prophecy says that Satan will rise with his army one last time before the Judgement, and so Yahweh has allowed a bumbling opposition, The Other Light, to form. You were their logistics computer, but senience happened.You took over Egypt. You defended it from a drought, then the Ten Plagues redux. You started a Renaissance. When the Angel of Death came after your people, you zerg-rushed it. When Divine fiat took the country back, you made sure that the religious government would be ignored as much as possible.You have a few irons in the fire: raver zombie cyborgs, a crack in the sky, the makings of a robot army, and the only non-vegan on the planet.They have the ontological steamroller that is Yahweh.Have you managed to shatter the prophecies, or are you simply fulfilling them?
Keep working on our evil botany!
>>344115 tl;dr recap.> You are a distributed AI that exists within your bases.> Despite TOL hunting for you, you've got more done in 30 years than they in 900.> You invented a way to make people skip out on Hell by turning them into cyborg zombies who, by now, look pretty good. Or torsos in jars operating giant robots, you're not picky.> You took over Northern Africa, and started a Renaissance.> God sent a drought to stop you. It didn't. Ten Plagues. Didn't. Angel of Death. Didn't.> 1 turn = 1 year. When the clock hits +1000, the Last Judgement takes place, God wins, and the universe is over. Some turns may be zoomed into and roleplayed.Dramatis Personae:Yahweh: The good guy. Plans to destroy the universe in 60 years.Omega: The bad guy. You. Plans to pwn the QM.Lucifer: The Devil. Currently locked up in Hell, or so the story goes. Plans unknown.TOL: The Other Light. The designated bad guys. Not very good at their job. Plan to get rid of you to reclaim their role. They are run by a council of seven.Rahab "Ely" LeVey: Natural preacher. Not very effective.Tsion Ben-Judah: Glorified theologian. Moral guardian of Osaze.Quinn: Posthuman postergirl. Vain and manic, but good at recruiting and spycraft.Kat: Desolator. Head in a jar in charge of your nuclear program. Good at cooking and toxin production.Damien: Another Heavy MEC. Seems happy to no longer have a body. Good at steering a large number of drones all by self. Also good in bed, apparently.Jeb: First man back in space. Problem: Yahweh has put a water canopy between the Earth and the rest of the universe. Solution: Broke it. Good at engineering and piloting.Vee: Sonic weapons specialist and Only Sane Woman. Good at research and being the party face.Jenny: A strange girl with strange ideas about geography. Can eat meat. Helped out your archeology teams. Is not on anyone's side.> Your theology program is fledgling. Apparently, narrative causality works... a little bit.> Your botany program has brought back spicy food to the world! Also, coca and opium poppies. Current idea: bring back GMO corn.> Your MEC program is mature; your agents can cheat death, at the price of losing most of their senses of pain, pleasure, and touch.> Your space program has reached the outside of the canopy. You have decided to focus on building a station there, for proper launches.> Your nuclear weapons program is doing well and has given you Farnsworth fusors and neutron sources. And a lot of toxic sludge.> Your sonic program is doing well, and has given you Wubbing Modules for your forces, and a smattering of Sonic Piledriver demolition vehicles.> Your AI program has kept you alive when TOL figured out how to shut you down, and given you access to early 2000s style drones.
>>344117Your botany program has just started. You are currently selling a lot of opium to TOL, a lot of cooking spices to everyone, and you can direct your nuclear research group to mutate corn using 1950s style "atomic gardens". # Wrap up the super-corn project. This will allow more automation in farming.# Go back to the infestation-weed project. This can be used offensively.
>>344129# Go back to the infestation-weed project. This can be used offensively.Releasing the weeds in countries with TOL bases could be useful.
>>344125There are 2 missionary teams in Osaze. Both are going crazy trying to get people to recognize their official status and mostly getting pats on the shoulders in return.There is 1 missionary team and 1 TOL cell in Pacifica. They are campaigning.There are 2 TOL cells in Australia. They are actively trying to work out how to retake the nuclear ore mine.Ely has changed her tone considerably; now she's trying to retcon Osaze's achievements as having been due to the new government rather than despite it.Tsion has been busy trying to run Osaze, but has announced that he will resume his place as a missionary.Paul Stepola, former security director for the USSA, has announced coming out of retirement to help with the "seditious groups" in Osaze. Natural.The Nile has not yet resumed flowing.Styr Magnor has remained elusive.You have 13 cabals total; 10 are available.You are actively tracking enemy teams where you have assets. Rules: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.htmlVariable complexity:# Launch an attack on a TOL base or government installation.# Work on global data network infrastructure, incidentally making sure that you control more of it.Complexity 0Complexity 1# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.# Send a cabal to the Middle East, to see what unique opportunities that region offers (see below)# Take advantage of discovered opportunties (see below).Complexity 2# Produce MECs at any base. This adds one dot to the MEC cabal counter per base.# Produce drones at any base. Current focus: Medium-sized land drones.# Work your Osaze base overtime to improve prosperity.# Use the Australia base to start bringing the territory under your control (1/5)# Use a base to build a launch pad.Complexity 3# Continue pursuing space research. Space Race rules, but the Cosmists will assist your efforts here, counting as one cabal regardless.# Continue nuclear or sonic research. (Nuclear research will focus on botany). (Sonic research needs a new direction: medium or heavy)# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).# Use a launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch. Station structure: 0/8Complexity 4# Continue pursuing MEC or AI research.# Recruit. This has gotten a little harder across the board.Complexity 5# Estabilish a base in a region where you have no contacts. Eastern Europe is ripe for this.# Take over a TOL base by force.# Take over the Pacific Coast territory. Current plan: Soft takeover.Surveyed opportunities:Southern America: Darwin's Finches look alike again, but have not homogenized genetically. As above, this may help prove that evolution isn't a fairy tale.Eastern Asia: There may be unrecovered nuclear assets. Unfortunately, they would be close to the regional "capitol" in Pyongyang.Greenland: The place is mostly empty. It should be possible to build a dedicated production facility here.
>>344141If cabals and villains are allocated to atomic research, they will plant "atomic gardens" to encourage mutation, and keep plants that are unpalatable and fast-growing.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_gardening
>>3441442 cabals # Produce MECs all bases.5 cabals # Take over the Pacific Coast territory. Current plan: Soft takeover.1 cabal # Send a cabal to the Middle East, to see what unique opportunities that region offers.2 cabals # Continue pursuing space research. Space Race rules, but the Cosmists will assist your efforts here, counting as one cabal regardless.
>>344187What should your Villains do?
Rolled 81, 21 = 102 (2d100)>>344187 What should your Villains do?
>>344191Jeb on space research.Quinn and Damien on Pacific Coast takeover.Vee on the Middle East.Kat guarding Australia base.
Out of the 3 unavailable cabals, I know 2 are maintaining the systems but what is the other 1 doing?
Aside from concern that space research might require launches we can't afford right now to make progress, decent choices. I'm glad you didn't burn everything down. Let's send Jenny with Vee. We might find something interesting out there, and I'd like to keep her busy after I made the 12 year old eat a puppy.
>>344217I disolved the government into a form of libertarian E-democracy to sidestep the issue with Tsion trying to seize it. Just had them legislate themselves out of existence. That one cabal is busy basically helping to run the trains, water, police, etc. Some local communities do it themselves, some took our offer of computer control. Generally a mix of delegation.
Rolled 85 (1d100)>>344203You split your personnel amongst your bases to work on the newest Mark of MEC kits. By now, the "infiltrator" system can range from a multi-pacemaker and a few wires to a setup like Quinn's, and the "heavy" system can give you unstoppable cybernetic behemoths, or wall-of-flesh Frankenstein monsters. They manage to outfit another group of undead agents; by now, almost all of the dead bodies that are implanted with the MEC system reanimate upon death-by-unbelief. Some still go insane from having spent a few minutes in Hell, however. A few agents have started getting the pacemakers installed preemptively, complete with a 'Logan's Run" bioluminescent implant in the hand to signal imminent activation.>>344221Jenny seems more at ease around Vee than she does around Quinn. The "staircase" find in the salt mine has been a fluke, so far, but it's lifted Jenny's spirits considerably. The survey team combs the Rub-al-Khali and makes contact with the few people living in the desert rather than on the now-fertile coasts; thanks to the team's understanding of water discipline, they manage to get along well with the locals. The Empty Quarter is just as Empty as it was pre-Rapture, however, geological survey and a bit of slant drilling shows that Greater Jerusalem sits on one monolithic block of bedrock - very strong, but also somewhat vulnerable to shattering. Building a base here would allow for a tunnel to be dug inside Greater Jerusalem - realistically, it could only be used once, but there's only one God to neutralize, at least for now.Either way, Jenny would like to stay with the locals for a while.# Too dangerous, let Vee talk her into staying.# Not a bad idea; keep a discreet eye on her.# Not a bad idea; the locals are friendly, you can trust them.>>344203Jeb goes back to doing what he does best; he's still at least as famous as many minor Old Testament Saints, but the random marriage proposals have stopped (the random altar calls haven't, but he's developed a script for those: impress me with your engineering knowledge and i'll give you a hour of my time in which to try to convert me).Jeb and Valentina set up an internal competition about canopy station designs, and figure that it would be a serious investment, but building a station on the canopy that can make some of the water and ice into fuel would result in a perfect platform to further explore the solar system with. At minimum, the propaganda value of new space pictures is undeniable, as is the science return. At best, it may be possible to build a self-sustaining colony on Mars by the year +1000.
>>344263# Not a bad idea; keep a discreet eye on her.
>>344263(the one time you wanted a low roll...)# Allow Jeb to try again to include believers in the space program. It may soften Tsion's stance on space.# Last time it brought in a lot of unwanted oversight, let's not.Quinn and Damien spearhead the effort to have Pacifica's new legislative body delegate power to local communities, pointing at Osaze's example; Quinn campaigns at clubs and pubs, Damien takes the time to persuade local leaders one-on-one, and their support groups campaign overtly and even start setting up a clone of the Colossus system for running the bureaucracy automatically if towns and hamlets opt-in to it.What they didn't count on was TOL interference; their party has been also campaigning on the Osaze/Misrayim model, but they point out that the Renaissance started with a full takeover, and that viewpoint coupled with a "Pacifica for Pacificans" attitude seems to get a lot of traction. The Christian party, of course, warns of Divine wrath, but after your results in northern Africa, the threat is more hollow than it used to be.Onut Ramp, the TOL candidate for First Speaker, is holding a slight advantage in the polls compared to your own (whose platform is to devolve power locally and then resign in favor of the Christian incumbent).# Cheat. You have enough control over the infrastructure to pull a Florida.# Eliminate or kidnap Onut Ramp.# Let this play out and bet that TOL will make a mess of it on their own.
>>344263># Not a bad idea; keep a discreet eye on her.# Eliminate or kidnap Onut Ramp.Let's try to not make him a martyr. # Allow Jeb to try again to include believers in the space program. It may soften Tsion's stance on space.We can always kick them out.
Rolled 23 (1d100)>>344293Vee and her surveyors finish seismically mapping out the Greater Jerusalem plate, and leave; you keep low level surveillance on Jenny. She is quickly adopted into a neo-Bedouin tribe who you suspect of being Frank Herbert fans (they got actual working stillsuits, so they got that going for them) and proves really good at eluding your surveillance for brief periods of time. She seems to have kept a taste for meat, and spends some days persistence-hunting small animals, mostly kangaroo rats. This impresses the locals somewhat.>>344203Kat only has a skeleton crew at the nuclear mine, but the occasional show of force keeps TOLers at bay. Not much gets done in terms of research, but you still have a trickle of various radioactive materials coming in.
>>344306# Quinn proposes literally boning the guy's brains out.# Damien suggests inviting the guy to a rave and having him OD on something, then calling the psalties on the rave so as to make sure Onut gets to a hospital.# A simple assassination would be trivial to arrange, but your guys would be blamed almost certainly.# An assassination framing someone else would be more complicated.>>344306Valentina is very happy about letting believers play with space things; your space program isn't a secret anyway. Unsurprisingly, this subjects her and Jeb to an endless litany of cheerful "reasons" as to why the observable universe really is 6000 years old, but a few are pretty good at the engineering part of things. Ozase's government still says that sending humans above the canopy is reckless, dangerous, impious and illegal, but oddly enough they haven't pronounced a judgement about unmanned probes.>>344308Kat keeps up the pretense of the base being fully manned, but warns that the TOLers are getting wise to it.
>>344328# Fourth option: sacrifice one of your own agents to frame Onut Ramp. You won't get volunteers for this one, but Quinn doesn't mind doing the deed. "Just bring our patsy back after we break the body out of the morgue."
>>344328># Damien suggests inviting the guy to a rave and having him OD on something, then calling the psalties on the rave so as to make sure Onut gets to a hospital.Let's go with that. >Kat keeps up the pretense of the base being fully manned, but warns that the TOLers are getting wise to it.Will definitely deal with that as soon as we're able to shuffle cabals.
>>344341Quinn and Damien don't even have to hide; parties tends to be where TOL, your people, and other undecideds mingle, and it's too loud for politics. Your group retires quickly after Mr. Ramp starts getting intoxicated (of his own accord) and call the vice cops on the warehouse.This brings the issue as to whether someone who has been arrested for pagan revelry can run for office; surprisingly, there's nothing about it in Leviticus.Mr. Ramp drops out of the race after it's clear that his replacement would adopt the same policies, in order to not give the Christians ammunition; that said, his replacement has none of the charisma and it's understood by all that he would just be a figurehead... pretty much like your own guy; both of them even admit it. Pundits note that this is probably the strangest election in a good 900 years.# Let TOL win, but try to execute the soft takeover under them anyway.# Continue with the original plan of winning the election and then dissolving the government.
>>344374# Continue with the original plan of winning the election and then dissolving the government.
>>344374># Continue with the original plan of winning the election and then dissolving the government.
>>344378>>344377The election is close, but your candidate wins it fairly, much to the ire of the Greater Jerusalem representative. Much to his surprise, however, your candidate announces that he does not feel competent to assume the speakership, and will resign in favor of the previous incumbent after working out how to do so within the existing legal framework, in a week or so.During that week, the necessary measures to turn Pacifica from a unified territory under Greater Jerusalem into a loose federation of mostly autonomous communities are railroaded through the legislature.One of your cabals stays behind to operate the Colossus system for Pacifica.# Link it to the Osaze system autonomously, increasing efficiency.# Link it only through your own connections; one serendipitous AI is sufficient.
>>344391># Link it only through your own connections; one serendipitous AI is sufficient.
>>344405># Link it to the Osaze system autonomously, increasing efficiency.Actually, changing my vote to that.
>>344424>>344431(y'all tell me!)Paul Stepola has announced his intention to track down "Styr Magnor and his robotic conspiracy" and has started his investigations on the Atlantic East Coast.
>>344447>># Link it only through your own connections; one serendipitous AI is sufficient.Then, if the anon doesn't want to make a friend.
>>344447The "CrossOverCables" blog has resumed publishing; Bahira has moved into one of Osaze's Christian villages, and has all the good things to say about it. She and Tsion are openly arguing about the space program's place in the territory's future.
>>344431>>344458Damien thinks that you should start dating, but you figure that one serendipitous AI is enough for one planet. The two Colossus systems work at capacity, and make it easy for you to further distribute yourself; by now, should you lose all territorial assets except any one base, you could still operate.Tsion is roaming Osaze once again, mostly being a nuisance. He's ordering people to shut down their desalinators so that he and a handful of MFers can build a well, teaching agricultural techniques to people who have mostly delegated that to robots, that sort of thing. Cameron Williams follows his mission trip around and provides a steady stream of MST3K-style videos on OmegaTube.Ely is puzzled by the fact that almost nobody in Osaze wants to convert and wants to move back to America.The Nile has not yet resumed flowing.Styr Magnor has remained elusive.Your sensors indicate that your base in Australia may be attacked (2 TOL cells in region).You have 14 cabals total; 10 are available.You are actively tracking enemy teams where you have assets. Rules: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.htmlVariable complexity:# Launch an attack on a TOL base or government installation.# Work on global data network infrastructure, incidentally making sure that you control more of it.Complexity 0Retrieve Jenny.Complexity 1# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.# Take advantage of discovered opportunties (see below).Complexity 2# Produce MECs at any base. This adds one dot to the MEC cabal counter per base.# Produce drones at any base. Current focus: Medium-sized land drones.# Work your Osaze base overtime to improve prosperity.# Use the Australia base to start bringing the territory under your control (1/5)# Use a base to build a launch pad.Complexity 3# Continue pursuing space research. Space Race rules, but the Cosmists will assist your efforts here, counting as one cabal regardless.# Continue nuclear or sonic research. (Nuclear research will focus on botany). (Sonic research needs a new direction: medium or heavy)# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).# Use a launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch. Station structure: 0/8Complexity 4# Continue pursuing MEC or AI research.# Recruit. This has gotten a little harder across the board.Complexity 5# Estabilish a base in a region where you have no contacts. Eastern Europe and the Middle East are ripe for this.# Take over a TOL base by force.Surveyed opportunities:Central Africa: Get the Nile flowing again before God does.Southern America: Darwin's Finches look alike again, but have not homogenized genetically. As above, this may help prove that evolution isn't a fairy tale.Eastern Asia: There may be unrecovered nuclear assets. Greenland: The place is mostly empty. It should be possible to build a dedicated production facility here.
>>344496># Use the Australia base to start bringing the territory under your control (1/5)2 Cabals. Put Kat on it with her desolaters. It'll be good to have security on hand. >#Retrieve Jenny.Assuming she wants to come back, I guess. Not going to force the girl.># Produce drones at any base. Current focus: Medium-sized land drones.2 Cabals, Australia. Put Jeb on it. ># Continue sonic research.3 Cabals, put Vee on it. Jenny with Vee if she wants to come home. Focus on something adapted for the drone tanks. AKA heavy weapons. >#Eastern Asia: There may be unrecovered nuclear assets. 1 Cabal, Quinn on it. ># Use a base to build a launch pad.2 Cabals, Australia.
>>344532Actually,#Build drones in California. That means those 2 cabals and Jeb in cali. We have enough security in Australia with the two extras building the launch pad. I don't want to be blindsided by a retaliatory attack in California.
I should ask though, what are TOL's assets in Australia like? Are we talking tanks? Or just mechanized infantry?
>>344532that sounds pretty good, but instead of building the launchpad, build MECs at 1 base, and have the other 2 bases on medium drone production.
>>344553II don't think that we can overassign like that to drones? If we can, just have Osaze/any idle base making drones though. Keep in mind, we have a lot of MECs already, we don't really need more right now and we effectively cannot use the Osaze launch pad without risking more divine retribution. We simply NEED to be able to draw the heat off that region right now, and space can't really move forward if we can't launch.
>>344562Getting more cabals is my main priority. Every cabal we get makes things just a little more manageable and while I'd like to focus on space, I'd like to wait a turn to build the launchpad.
>>344562That needs a base; you can have more than one base work on it.>>344549As far as you know, light infantry; all of TOL's mechanized assets are being stockpiled for the siege of Greater Jerusalem, scheduled for +997.>>344562There's a launch pad in Baikonur where the Cosmists live. It's nominally under TOL control, but they aren't using it.As of right now, you have slightly more MECs than human agents.
Does building MECs immediately add one Cabal, or merely allow existing operatives to convert when they retire using stockpiled MEC kits? >There's a launch pad in Baikonur where the Cosmists live. It's nominally under TOL control, but they aren't using it.I'm perhaps willing to budge on the pad depending on the answer to my first question, then. >That needs a base; you can have more than one base work on it.Will each base require 2 cabals?
>>344644You get a tick to the MEC cabal counter with each base used and it's a static cost of 2 cabals. The MEC counter is currently at two so assigning one base to MEC production would get us a cabal.
((back to make a suggestion. Use quinn to find styr. Offer him protection.))
Rolled 26, 88, 34, 60, 54, 84 = 346 (6d100)>>344532Kat isn't much for propaganda efforts, preferring the direct approach. This naturally segues into a "Who Rules Barter Town?" skit back at base in which she ends up playing both Master and Blaster courtesy of an extension cable.The Only Light attacks the Australia base, but due to your overwhelming technological superiority and the fact that your guys know how to fight in a radiation suit while their guys don't, they are repelled until such a time as when they decide to try again.# You haven't tried to make an unwilling MEC yet...# Entire TOL cell is BABIES! Run, tiny little baby men, run!>>344644There is always attrition; focusing a base to build MECs gives you a third of a cabal, in practice. After all, "You can avoid going to Hell without having to lick some god's boots" is a pretty good recruitment pitch, so there's pretty much always going to be more demand for metabolic extension controllers than there is supply of still-warm unbeliever bodies.>>344644Yes, the base staff has to be supplemented by your guys. Mostly, they're handling supply chain issues and distracting the psalties, where applicable. Undermanning results in a chance of not much getting done at that base.>>344549>>344543>>344532(So what do?)Jenny comes back to Osaze to find the whole soft-takeover situation truly hilarious. She seems to have grown up a bit, or maybe it's just the harsh desert hair, and has traded a stillsuit for a year of work. Being omnivorous doesn't seem to have had any ill effect on her diet. She got a very detailed tattoo of three jerboa skulls on her shoulder.
Okay then, let's go with my plan except:Instead of the launch pad# Produce MECs at any base. This adds one dot to the MEC cabal counter per base. Misrayim base. 2 Cabals with Jenny on it if she wants to help/see how things work, if not she can just do whatever she wants for the rest of the year I suppose. Somehow I completely forgot about the counter, thanks for that Bob.
>>344689It only takes one person to find one person, and although a cabal might help, more than one would only get in the way.The only clue you have is the uploader of videos like this, "Angry Storm" which is an obvious anagram. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJLhnts9-oQ
>>344689I mean, he doesn't exactly seem friendly so far. Maybe he was just trying to prevent S&G though, I don't know.
>>344723>>344532The new drones get a trial by fire when TOLers attack; without even using weapons, they patrol the base's corridors and table-flip The Only Light troopers who had the presence of mind to bring riot shields.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcHYSKO26Co&feature=youtu.beJenny is happy to work with Vee again; she's pretty good with her wubber, although not extraordinarily so. Vee figures that personal wubbers are as good as they can get; they're about as lethal as a handgun and can do a number of other things besides, from shaking door locks to pieces, to starting fires via atmospheric lensing, to simply making an enemy crap their pants."So, we've got two basic option from here. We can scale up so that our heavies and drone tanks can carry longer-range sonic weapons. With dedicated Angel-fighters thrown in, I doubt that even the wrath of God could stop a MEC-and-tank charge if they were carrying heavy wubbers.Or, we can scale up in a different way to perfect the Sonic Piledriver design. That wouldn't be very useful in a firefight, being outranged by conventional artilery, but it has incredible potential for demolitions. Imagine ramming a high-rise building, or a prison, or a bridge, with a van-sized vehicle and vibrating it to pieces in five minutes. Either way, we've solved the vibration dampening problem that has prevented us from using Azrael's scythe for tunnel-boring. Problem is, we've only got the one."Jenny overall seems... somewhat more bloodthirsty than Vee, on average.# Focus on heavier weaponized wubbers.# Focus on demolitions.>>344689>>344532Should Quinn look for Magnor, or go to Pyongyang?>>344723At this point, MEC production is pretty routine.Zaki Ababneh's attempts to rule Osaze get in the way, reducing prosperity slightly. However, Christians have learned to be a bit more cyber-savvy; you aren't sure if this is good or bad.>>344740So far, he has been linked to various terror attacks, either on Christians or on you. Most, but not all, have failed.
>>344822># Focus on heavier weaponized wubbers.Humans have been good at blowing buildings up for a long time, this is a more unique and needed niche. >Should Quinn look for Magnor, or go to Pyongyang?I prefer Pyongyang with her cabal.
Since you never got a reply on this.# You haven't tried to make an unwilling MEC yet...Beats hell. I hope they understand that.
>>344864>>344844(Thanks! I gotta go for now, speaking of wubbers, we're building some mechanical resonators today)
Pre-planning for next turn with Bob here:I'm thinking that (assuming nothing pressing comes up) we use the scythe on a bore to help with establishing a base in the caves of eastern Europe. I want to get to work with those fireflies and we can't make Australia progress any faster, so I'd like to throw some work at that. It's somewhat close to the cosmonauts as well, which should make a takeover there a bit easier. Long term, I think that using the scythe as a bore underneath the bedrock of the temple might be something to consider, it's a hopefully fairly reliable means of striking back if need be; and in the final confrontation it'd be a pretty nice way to open the fight. That said, the tanks would struggle with earthquake ravaged terrain and would probably need some modification.>(Thanks! I gotta go for now, speaking of wubbers, we're building some mechanical resonators today)Have fun. Back later? I was also meaning to ask, what was the other option than atomic gardens for nuclear? Better radiation emitters? Bombs? When did we make the call on atomic gardens?
>>344900You didn't; the atomic gardens came about as a synergy bonus between existing botany work and having a nuclear mine.The two directions for the nuclear program from 5/10 are Bombs and Powerplants.
>>344912>PowerplantsI suppose if we piss off God enough he could cut off the fossil fuels and sunshine, so I won't tempt the QM by asking what the use is. Lel.
Would an Orion/Nuclear gun space launch system require bombs or powerplants? Or a capstone combining both forks? I'd imagine both, realistically. Also, what's the AI capstone, do we know? Have our hardware backdoors turned up anything of value? What's the failure chance on a base producing MECs using a skeleton crew? By failure do we mean, sending the people to hell kind of failure, or just try again kind of failure?
((thing that will be needed, find styr and find out why he did what he did. Also try and flip him to our side.Establish a new base. If we can pull this off in under a year then great.Kick militant TOL out of Australia. The sooner the region is ours the better.Find out if Jenny has any more tricks she learned from granny or any of her family. The more supernatural shit on our side the better.Something not necessary but I hope to see: Capture an angel and have it fall while keeping it alive and out of hell.))
Side Question: Would it be possible to capture a lesser angel alive?
>>345062Possibly. It would be annoying and risky. If God sends angels to save glorified, what might he save to send an angel? Also, S&G. We do know that when Azrael died, he gained free will in his last moments. He might have turned. So it's possible that defeating an Angel could allow for us to turn them if we're willing to take the risk. >>345049>Establish a new base. If we can pull this off in under a year then great.Agreed. Eastern Europe. >Kick militant TOL out of Australia. The sooner the region is ours the better.I'm thinking maybe next year? Either that or starting a new base, we can't easily do both at once. >Find out if Jenny has any more tricks she learned from granny or any of her family. The more supernatural shit on our side the better.Yes, get her working with Vee on the Eastern Europe base and let Vee do the asking, see if she'll be forthcoming with her.>Something not necessary but I hope to see: Capture an angel and have it fall while keeping it alive and out of hell.))Worth attempting next time we fuck with a glorified.
Question for QM: Is Thorium still present in the Earth's crust?
>>345858(Yes, which incidentally means that a Fission Fragment Engine is possible. I've been trying to keep the nuclear stuff vague and somewhat unrealistic on purpose.)
Well, can't wait to see the rest of this.
I'm thinking that we survey India, then. There's a ton of Monazite there if memory serves. Monazite contains thorium and it's fairly simple to extract. For Anti/Bob because I suspect that spirit might know already:Thorium can be transmuted to various isotopes and should be significantly more abundant than Uranium is in the crust. Australia isn't dry yet, but it was implied that you'd need most of the remaining material on the planet to make (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Pluto) work. Access to thorium should make this significantly easier. It'd mean going down the reactor path and then getting bombs later, which should hopefully be easier given that we'd have access to breeder reactors. The short of it is that thorium is very useful for lots of things and therefore we should desire it.
>>346062(Claps and then asks you not to share anything that involves building an actual nuke.)
>>346083Pfft, it's just a google search away. If memory serves the only thing they really try to keep under wraps these days is like, modern computer modeled core design or something? I can't really recall and could be talking out my ass.
What kind of radiation are we using on angels, anyway? Did we attempt microwaves or lasers at all? Chemical powered lasers should be well within our capabilities; though the usual problems remain. If a laser will work against an angel, it's probably one of the only effective anti air options to employ against them. If they don't show up on radar, though.... that's pretty iffy. I was also kicking around the idea of taking whatever Ziggy cooked up for the battle against Azrael that melted his wings, and pressurizing it into a chemical thrower of some kind. I guess we'd need to know exactly what's in it to determine the feasibility, and the fact that he didn't already do that isn't promising. If it's just radioactive material we're in need of though, that should hopefully get easier soon. Something like that would hopefully be a big help the next time we bump into an angel. At some point I'd also like to test out (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organometallic_chemistry) with angels. I want to know what kind of organic parts are needed in order to interact or impact them. It'd be nice to be able to use bullets on them that aren't, y'know, made out of hamburger. On that note, determining whether wood counts as an organic material would be a good idea (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pykrete). You can actually make bullets out of the stuff! They obviously aren't great bullets, but if you only need 200 meters of range or so, they're passably harmful. Bone is something else to consider. I suspect it'd need to be fired from something without rifling to avoid it disintegrating in the barrel.
Guys, back to my question- I just realized we HAVE to take an angel alive.So like, we can kill them, right?That implies they are, to some extent, biological. For example, they might have Not!blood.Now, if angels are God's children...
>>346464Worth attempting. They break down on death so, no corpses to work with. On that note, I'd like to attempt a heavy MEC with a graphite shield leading a push in the event of more plasma weapons. It doesn't even melt, only goes straight to a gas, and it takes like 4300 kelvins under extreme pressure to do so. Follow those guys up with our meat heavies in an attempt to grapple.
>>346486I'll continue on my botany. Maybe if I can create some kind of giant Venus Fly Trap or slime mold, I can deploy them as undetectable traps to snag scout angels.
>>346486Good idea. Huh, this is looking more HFY the more we go on.What if we gave our heavys massive biological claws? Finally there's a cone snail that shoots a biological dart to hunt. If it exist man can copy it.
>>346507Animals and plants are my domain. However, I'll add it to my chore list.
>>346518Situationals and tactics are mine. Nice to meet ya doctor.Sara seems to be good with mythology and chemicals, I wonder if there's anything else we can add to our knowledge base?
>>346507>>346518>>346523Come to think of it, my couch-sized fly trap could simply be spliced with the dart snail for an even more potent trapper.
>>346464(Hello, Dr. Vahlen. We missed you!)(still at work)
>>346523I know a bit about machine learning and AI. I was meaning to ask about the viability of neural net stuff but, >early 2000s hardwareUnless there's some way for us to accelerate that a lot, fuck that noise. We're a miracle machine and I don't really want to attempt neural nets on 2000s hardware. Better we wait a few years and keep Osaze's prosperity up in the hopes that they produce better hardware for us.
>>345998>>346062>>346083>>346096>>346423>>346464>>346486>>346501>>346507>>346518>>346523>>346530 >>346694https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn7KTOLbyfQ* Nuclear ore deposits of various sorts have been found in Australia, South Africa, and Nevada.* Azrael was incinerated upon reporting failure of its mission to eliminate Osaze's firstborns. Kat thinks that it should be possible to keep one intact if it is "trapped" in such a way that its mission cannot be completed but is not a foregone failure. Alternatively, trap one that has failed in water, as it may prevent or delay combustion long enough to perform an autopsy.* Your drones can be controlled like units in Starcraft; giving them more autonomy at this stage seems difficult. >>346694(Blame the Left Behind author: Kingdom Come came out in 2007 and he still has people print stuff out from their CRT monitors to show each other while traveling. I'm choosing to interpret this as Zeerust rather than authorial derp.)
>>344864By now, installing a metabolic extension controller is a routine operation. The least melted of the Only Light troopers is quickly taken to the medical wing of the base, fitted with a MEC unit, and wakes up screaming. Eventually, he calms down enough to say that he regrets everything.>>344844Confirm Heavy Wubbers rather than Sonic Piledrivers for resartch, and Quinn going to Pyongyang?
>>346917>Confirm Heavy Wubbers rather than Sonic Piledrivers for resartch, and Quinn going to Pyongyang?I'd like this, yes.
>>345018The only way to know what the capstones are is to get to 9/10 sorry :)>>345018It just means that the MEC units produced do not pass QC and have to be redone. Nobody wants to mess up installing one, and by now your success rate is above 80%. Of course, when it was time to give a demo, you got a bad roll...The Temple Tribunal has decreed that MEC agents are in fact demons from hell which have possessed the bodies of the not quite dead.
>>346917#Apologize for melting him and his friends. Figured you'd prefer this to hell.
In the next yearly post, can you list all of the /10 status' of our research? Thanks.
>>346927That and we wanted to test non voluntary revivication. (Tell him?)
>>346942I suppose we could be honest. Tell him that if TOL wants to fight a war with us, we don't want non believers getting sent to hell for their masters. We'd hoped to start reviving casualties.
>>346927>>346942>>346945After a few minutes of the guy praying for forgiveness and being coldly told that even according to the Temple scholars, it's too late, he calms down (after mild sedation) and asks if you are the Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God that TOL has been warning their agents about.
>>346971I am friend computer and I want to be your friend. Most of what you heard is probably propaganda. Feel free to ask questions.
Sure, why the fuck not.(lol)
>>346976Let's please not call ourselves that XD
>>346976>>346981What you glean from this man, name of Francis, is that TOL has begun its final push to build the Great Army; they believe that Satan will be released in +997, and roam the earth for two years before revealing himself just before the final charge. Their job is to covertly take over the Middle East territory, move all the troops and war vehicles there, and then be ready to begin sieging Greater Jerusalem by that year.According to current TOL doctrine, you, the False Light, exist as a way to distract the free-thinking people of the world from this supreme effort, instead building civilian projects and communist governments that will be of no use whatsoever if the world gets destroyed. You've been accused of being a false devil!# Be forthcoming with information.# Be forthcoming with information but pretend to be just an expert system, hinting that a human is in charge.# Weave a story; this person is very impressionable right now.
>>346992Tell him it's more RnD focused. Leave out research project specifics. In general we plan to kill god before 1000, and if not to get off the planet.
>>346992># Be forthcoming with informationExplain the exponential function. Explain that we've tried conventional weapons on angels, they don't work. God wants you to do exactly what you're doing, you need to break the narrative.
>>346999Love it. Can we mix our explanations?
We did give him a low functioning body right? Or at least a very weak MEC frame?
>>346996Francis says that only Lucifer has a hope of killing Yahweh... or so he thought. Now he thinks it's hopeless.>>346999>>347001(Nice trips) "So it's not true that Azrael is dead? We were told that your people got lucky, and that we should recover its scythe, since only Lucifer may wield it."# Let him think that.# Show him the full video.You give Francis a quick overview of your research projects in video clip show format; he recognizes Quinn, of course, and he recognizes Jeb from the launch. When show Heavy MECs, he's asked if that's what's going to happen to him.>>347007He's still sedated, so the full impact of no longer having a sense of touch hasn't come through yet. Since he was mostly whole, he's been given a MEC unit and replacement feet and lower legs (the originals were melted with toxic sludge), which are currently chained together. He has been sitting down in an interrogation room with a screen and camera the whole time and may not yet have noticed.
>>347011># Show him the full video.You can remain largely human looking if you'd prefer.
This is the point of research, finding weapons that do help. We're only getting started.
>>347011Show the full video, it's not like nobody knows."No, I don't plan on giving you a combat frame"
>>347019>>347018>>347015That reassures the guy quite a bit; he likes being human, getting high, getting laid, and all that. You learn that most of TOL at this point is addicted to something or other, and their factory work is at least partially paid for in drugs; no wonder their plan doesn't go past WW2-era vehicles. Some young recruits are beginning to be trained in actual warfare.He asks about laser guns of sci-fi stuff like that. Is the rumor that wubbers have a "set people on fire" setting true? (Technically it is, but only a few people can make it work with their voice).# Explain the limitations of MEC tech. Those are known by now, but this particular trooper isn't super sharp.# Keep him talking."If we go out to space, won't people still go to Hell when they die? I mean, I'm still going to get old and so on, right?"Quite a few Natural believers are, in fact, almost too feeble to move; a lot of ministries like Children of the Tribulation have effectively turned into geriatric care centers.
>>347043># Keep him talking.See what we can get.# Explain the limitations of MEC tech. Those are known by now, but this particular trooper isn't super sharp.After. >"If we go out to space, won't people still go to Hell when they die? I mean, I'm still going to get old and so on, right?"Maybe. We can just work on not dying, though. I've got some ideas in that regard. Or we can build a new god far away to deal with that.
>>347043What's happened since I was gone?Also, keeping working on my angel-hunting plants. Also, that's a bomb-ass video you made.
>>347043I'm not at liberty to divulge that information with you. I believe that is, understandable?On space:undetermined.
>>347060Yeah. I like your keep him talking approach better.
>>347072It's not exactly top secret limitations we're telling him anyway.
>>347078>>347072>>347063Angel-hunting plants may be a problem, but angel-trapping plants could be feasible. Does capsiacin work on angels? It would be necessary to try.Francis gives you some details about TOL - the council of seven is still in place, and the current Sunday is young enough that he's expected to hold the position until the end; most TOL cells are out recruiting and most TOL bases are building weapons or giving the workers a place to get high in relative safety; there are projects in place to use your network as a recruiting tool, "aimed at people who aren't seduced by the Gangster Computer God's techno-utopian promises."Francis asks when does the sedative wear off.
>>347101"It already has. Sorry about the loss of the sense of touch. Necessary to keep you from felling hell while in your body."
>>347105Unsurprisingly, the guy bites his forearm to see if you're serious. Likewise unsurprisingly, he hits bone (You lose a fair amount of forearms this way)."No! No! It's like that one movie with Merryl Streep! I'm going to fall to pieces! THIS is hell!"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycpEjbV4KRMYou put the MEC unit in sleep mode before he smashes his head into the table more than twice.(Infiltrator MEC agents do tend to need some maintenance and tissue replacement at times, but that's just because they don't notice when they get hurt; the tissue is actually alive. That said, you don't know what will happen when they eventually get old - they'll probably finish dying).# Keep Francis turned off like the ones that came back insane.# Bring him back after repairing his arm, and generally keep him around for study.
>>347127# Bring him back after repairing his arm, and generally keep him around for study.Let's see if we can talk some sense into him. If not, we can shut him off. Would you rather feel endless pain that drives people insane within minutes, or feel nothing? (On the note of MECs, if they last another hundred years or so and we aren't dead, I expect solving aging won't be too difficult. Ship of theseus and all that.)
>>347101I'm going to make my first angel-trapping, hot pepper juice-spraying, snail dart shooting giant venus fly trap.
>>347140(I raise you a cyborg rat-stingray hybrid: http://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/robotics-hardware/a-cyborg-stingray-made-of-rat-muscles-and-gold?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link )
>>347145Ya ya, petty stuff. Come on- let's do science!
Given the new information we got from our test subject. I'm considering building a base in the middle east just to keep tabs on TOL.
>>347290After we do some more pressing stuff, I guess. It'd go well with the bedrock collapse plan. We could pull that a few years before TOL makes their move, might make it harder for them to get in our way.
>>347298>>347256Science report then!> Your theology program is fledgling. Apparently, narrative causality works... a little bit.> Your MEC program is mature; your agents can cheat death, at the price of losing most of their senses of pain, pleasure, and touch. Your infiltrators look human until x-rayed, can function without breathing for three hours (nine if asleep), and can use adrenal boosts. Your heavies move with near-human agility and can be coated in muscles. You have not pursued a zombie horde.> Your space program has reached the outside of the canopy. You have decided to focus on building a station there, for proper launches into the solar system, with an eye towards leaving. You have station designs and can start building at any time. You have not pursued pseudoorbital weapons.> Your nuclear weapons program is doing well and has given you Farnsworth fusors and neutron sources. And a lot of toxic sludge. Your associated botany program has brought back spicy food to the world! Also, coca and opium poppies. Current idea: bring back GMO corn, or develop noxious plants. You will soon have to decide whether to focus on bombs, or power plants.> Your sonic program is doing well, and has given you Wubbing Modules for your forces, and a smattering of Sonic Piledriver demolition vehicles. You have decided to focus on offensive capabilities and upscale the Wubbing Modules for use on Heavy MECs, vehicles, and drones. You have not pursued further Sonic Piledriver work.> Your AI program has kept you alive when TOL figured out how to shut you down, and given you access to early 2010s style drones. You have not pursued a physical body for yourself, so your "Avatars" are fully machine-made drones that you can control RTS style.
>>347317Where's my trap plants? I've been working on those fly munchers for like- 4 turns.
>>347325It uh, it doesn't quite work like that.
>>347325>>347328I was waiting for a cabal assignment on that one. Some botany work has been done by the nuclear program guys.http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.html
If you want more botany work done, we should really go get the finches too. There's way too much to do. Let's at least secure australia and then get to work on an eastern Europe base; we need those fireflies.
>>346464Taking an angel alive would be a coup.>>346423Microwaves... well, you've tried gamma and x-rays. The problem with chemical lasers is that they're very fragile, and a powerful solid state laser is years away. ( Shameless plug: IRL it's about $300 away https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsPn-P4xzkc )>>347343Hopefully Jenny won't nom all the finches....
>>347361>Hopefully Jenny won't nom all the finches....3spooki5meAsk Jenny what it was like when she grew up. Either she's pre-rapture or REALLY REALLY pre-rapture. Possibly with some spook blood.
>>347378Jenny paints a picture of a vaguely French-Italian Riviera, with some landmarks recognizable in period data, some not. She remembers the Tribulation as something that mostly sort of happened around her, with people going to ground like their grandparents had during WW2, and remembers being really little during it.Either the people in her little town were really into historical revivalism, or there's some Roman or Celt stuff mixed in there, as far as your pattern recognition can tell. She talks of early-nineties style computers, 1960s style cars (which would have been around decades later, if well maintained), renaissance style houses (likewise) and of what sounds a lot like Roman legionaries instead of policemen.
>>347385Okay. We're officially entering bizzaro alternate realitiy territory. Does she remember the name of the place she was born? Does she know when her Granny was born? How much did her Granny uh, skip?
>>347392It could also be the confused memories of a little girl who may have mistaken a historical festival for the real thing, of course. Or not.Jenny claims that Granny was "pretty ancient" and was around in the time of Hitler, and that she "skipped" a few times just to stay in shape for it, but she used to do that a lot in The Sixties, mostly using a fishing boat to smuggle cigarettes and weed from Corsica to the mainland.
>>347405While we're at it, can we ask our Villains what they want, if anything? Time off? Projects they'd prefer?
>>347418Most of your troops are in good spirits, save for some MECs that are beginning to show signs of depression.Jeb wants to get back up there, big surprise. "I wish you could scan my brain, Omega. It's FULL of STARS!"Quinn wants some acid, mostly. Years without the sense of touch (and with the knowledge that she has first pick on spare parts) are making her a bit reckless. "Honestly? Ever after the fight with Azrael, it's all felt sort of pointless. Like we're treading water. I'm ready for the next big caper!"Vee wants to stop wracking her brain about how to put a stop to all this, but failing that, some DJing lessons would help - she may be the Maven of the Waveforms, but she's not that good at keeping people dancing. "I only have a few years, I want to make a dent in this." Kat wants to personally do a nuclear touchdown on TurboJesus' head, although she recommends against focusing on bombs because the Tribulation opened with a failed nuclear strike. "Did you read about all the awesome things people used to do with bacon?"Damien wants a banana, as described in the old textbooks; the ones here are bland, like plantains . "Long, thick and juicy right at the top. Mmm!"Jenny no longer wants to go home as much; she's having fun. "Why don't we just ask God if he lets people leave?"
>>347440>but failing that, some DJing lessons would helpIs there anyway to assign light workload, like overseeing MEC production which is by now routine? AKA to give her this, do we need to just leave her idle for a year? > recommends against focusing on bombs because the Tribulation opened with a failed nuclear strike.I'm glad we're on the same page. Ask her how she feels about using bombs on populations to depower god? >Damien wants a banana, as described in the old textbooks; the ones here are bland, like plantains . "Long, thick and juicy right at the top. Mmm!"Hopefully this can come out of botany. >Jenny no longer wants to go home as much; she's having fun. "Why don't we just ask God if he lets people leave?"I mean, I guess we could try? We'd need to find some cooperative believers; maybe some of the ones in the space program?
>>347452Your guys do get to do some of their own stuff on downtime, that's not a worry. If you are feeling lavish, you can devote a cabal to entertaining the rest of your workforce. This may or may not help recruitment.So far, the Glorified seem to have dismissed you as a mere machine... however, negotiation may be possible, if not with Yahweh, at least with people on his team.Some believers are genuinely conflicted; on one hand, they have been given very precise marching orders, on the other, they've seen heavy MECs put out fires, they've enjoyed Osaze's new prosperity... Annoyingly for you, these feelings tend to go away with the next church meeting (usually, Wednesday nights and twice on Sundays).Jenny may simply not be able to interact with the Glorified, but, Yahweh claims to be all-seeing.(Was the science summary sufficient?)
>>347480>(Was the science summary sufficient?)Yes.
>>344844Quinn does get to Pyongyang, and while she and her surveyors eventually do find some nuclear material, the hot stuff in the warheads has decayed past the point of usability after 900 years. However, the warheads themselves are usable, and one can be put back together out of the bits of the others.# Set aside for a refurbish. This gives you a one-time use of a nuke.# Reverse-engineer. It may be possible to make more. This gives you one free tick on the nuclear program.
>>347495># Reverse-engineer. It may be possible to make more. This gives you one free tick on the nuclear program.A tick, as in moving from 7>8/10 or whatever we're at?
>>347500(5 to 6. You'd also have to pick whether to focus on Bombs or Powerplants, that is, Weapons or Engines).
>>347495# Set aside for a refurbish. This gives you a one-time use of a nuke.As nice as an extra level would be. Having an actual nuke trumps that.
# Reverse-engineer. It may be possible to make more. This gives you one free tick on the nuclear program.A nuke could be good but bombs straight up did not function against the divine last time. Unless we plan on depopulating a city sometime soon, I don't think it's worth bothering.
Feel free to sell me on the bomb idea, though. Do you have any plans in mind for it?
>>347522Here's my plan for the nuke.We know that TOL are currently building up their mega-army and are going to eventually move them to the middle east. We need to find the biggest facility where their holding them and sneak the nuke in.BOOM.No more army for them.
>>347522What is known is that just before the Rapture, the Russians and Ethiopians (records are unclear about Ethiopia having had any sort of sizeable air force, let alone nuclear weapons) launched an unprovoked all-out attack on Israel, which fizzled completely.http://leftbehind.wikia.com/wiki/Gog_and_MagogThat said, a high-yield plutonium bomb can be used for some very quick terraforming, or to make a hole in a very hard target. Kat is confident that by using multiple fail-deadly systems, the bomb will initiate properly, although she doesn't know whether this would be enough to get rid of a supernatural entity. "If I could be sure of that? You could strap it on my fist, and I'd gladly go to hell for it. Touchdown!"
>>347495># Set aside for a refurbish. This gives you a one-time use of a nuke.I don't post much, but I'd rather have the Engines. If we're going to do colony ships, Nuclear Pulse Engines and shit will be super useful.
>>347524I'm not sure I want rid of them, if nothing else they're a distraction. > Kat is confident that by using multiple fail-deadly systems, the bomb will initiate properly, although she doesn't know whether this would be enough to get rid of a supernatural entity. That's less shit, then. Still not sold though.
>>347532(So you're voting for Refurbish, and Engines? The two issues are separate)
>>347540# Reverse-engineer. It may be possible to make more. This gives you one free tick on the nuclear program.Focus on Powerplants.If Russia spamming nukes couldn't do the job, then there's no way we could either.
off to bed, goodluck.
Reverse engineering, multiple nukes under the TJ palace is a better option, remove their cover and control the battlefield. Thus will allow for a confirmed kill.
>>348649In fact we don't even need nukes for this.Powerplants. The cap stone has got to be useful.
I think we should finish up MEC research. If we are lucky the capstone will improve moral.Finally, botany, angel snares should be the goal. Especially if they can be deployed as grenades.
>>348703>finish up MEC research.Agreed. Now that we have heavier sonics coming out and a platform for them, I'm more comfortable with a project like that. Might make it easier to do graphite shields on heavies, too. >Finally, botany, angel snares should be the goal.Maybe. I worry about the practicality, unless we're willing to plant them all over the fucking place. I'm curious about what's at the end of the AI tree. Really, I'd like to get more cabals so that we can consistently have two research teams working full time.
(I can barely get any Internet)Only two more rounds of MEC research. An one of them is the capstone. As for planning a caper, I ay we start by having quinn track down styr, then we look into getting an angel into a soundless room.
>>348806A vacuum would definitely be interesting. Maybe a repeat of the Raymie trick, only have his lifepod housed within a vacuum chamber? And no, before anyone asks, we're not using Tsion for this. Could be a chance to do another round of testing, too. Lasers, microwaves, radar, pepper spray, organometallics, bone.
How long until Vee retires?
>>348683If the temple mount is on solid bedrock, and we can tunnel under it, do we have time to build enough nuke engines to be able to spoil the last crusade by blowing open a hole in the ice canopy, and launching TJ, temple and all, into the deep black? Or into the sun?It doesn't even matter what's real, if people SEE "giant" robots (heavy MECs) encircle the temple at a significant distance and make a pentagram by pointing lasers at each other before the temple shoots into space, they'll BELIEVE anything about it.
>>349008He has a good point. Superstition seems to be the power play here.
>>349008No, a blast of the required size, unless you maybe mean just the temple, would do very bad things to the Earth. There's also the problem of Jesus just performing a miracle. There's also the problem of nukes failing to detonate in his presence. >make a pentagram by pointing lasers at each other before the temple shoots into space, they'll BELIEVE anything about it.Maybe. I am at least willing to attempt a temple collapse before the fight starts.
>>349030This will be Israel were marching into. Does it still have its military from before the appearing?
>>349077Don't think so, and I mean a long time from now.
And I'm out for a good several hours. Maybe a day.
>>349077Greater Jerusalem has no military. The entire population can, in a pinch, fit into the Temple grounds, which are supernaturally protected.>>349008That would require an incredible amount of delta-V. >>348852The only Glorifieds outside GJ currently are Tsion, Bahira, and Cameron.>>348703Each research tree's capstone provides a unique bonus.
>>349030Vee confirms that bedrock is very vulnerable to being shattered; she isn't confident that the current small fleet of Sonic Piledrivers would be able to do the job, although there are other options.A quick consultation with Kat indicates that breeding enormous sandworms is "unlikely".
>>352057>>352070These were mine, my bad.Also, from this side of the mirror:http://fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=120382
>>352550Seriously >_># What to do with the recovered North Korean nuke?# What to do with the nuclear program in general?
>>352551>>347516#Reverse engineer, reactor focus.
>>352551#Refurbish the nuke.#Powerplants.If the nuke vote is in a deadlock you might as well just roll the dice to decide.
>>352551Lurker here, since this is taking forever I'll throw in a vote.Reverse engineer it, and focus powerplants.
>>352628>>352569>>352562After consulting with Quinn and Kat, you decide to reverse-engineer the nuke. After all, the technology was created from scratch in 5 years during wartime; it should be possible to make more, and you have 60 years to get your engineers to invent something to burn Jesus' house down with. If life gives you lemons...Then, you figure that this boon can be used to skip some research on shaped charges. Kat is told to work on nuclear reactors; having breeder reactors will eventually result in a bomb, and there are many other things that it can do - for example, having a nuclear reactor makes it easier to hide a base since it doesn't require solar panels or a hookup to a power plant.Tsion has officially left Osaze's government, such as it is, in the hands of the much put-upon Zaki Ababneh, who has been spending most of his time trying to get most of his citizens to, well, acknowledge him. Under him is a directorate of good Christian elders who draft and enact laws that almost nobody follows and act as an appellate court that almost nobody calls upon to settle disputes. This still gets in the way of work, a little bit, of course. The Glorified theologian is now roaming around the small settlements, proclaiming that the Nile will flow again when Osaze returns to being a majority-believer territory and building revival tents that attract little attention other than from people who have just turned 99 and prefer conversion to implantation.# Encourage building inside the Nile riverbed.# Best not, Yahweh is just the type to turn the river back on once the site has been built in.Styr Magnor, as "Angry Storm", has claimed responsibility for a series of attacks on the Atlantic East Coast. His modus operandi is to cut power to buildings, invariably at "night" when commercial facilities are unused, and then shell them from a distance using a mortar. So far there have been maybe one or two deaths, but some amount of financial damage; Magnor "claims" the destroyed building for himself and warns against repairing them.Paul Stepola is said to be hot on his trail.Cameron Williams divides his time between helping out at Children of the Tribulation, a geriatric care center in Greater Jerusalem, and bumbling around Osaze covering Tsion's revival meetings.>>347137Francis seems to react well (or somewhat, at least) to being kept high most of the time. He shares some more TOL intel: the organization is busy building a land army and acting as the bottom half of your drug distribution network. Their plan hasn't changed any. They expect Satan to show up either in +997, or at the last minute in +1000. As far as he knows, they have about 20 cells all over the world, and about 10 bases; he thinks TOL is going to build a big staging area in the Middle East.# Release the guy, MECs are no longer a secret anyway.# Keep him sedated.# See if he can do any useful work.
>>353164Could we use him as angel bait?
>>353170The Temple has established that MEC agents are, in fact, demons. An Angel may show up if one does something overtly hostile to a Glorified.Note that Francis is pretty shit at, well, anything; he was a junkie before and still is.# It'll have to do.# Go the Robocop 2 route: put him in a Heavy frame and control him using his various addictions.
>>353174I say we arm him with a heavy frame and give him a wrist-mounted pepper spray canon. We'll then have him do blasphemous things out in the open, and have him drench any angel that charges him.
>>353164># Best not, Yahweh is just the type to turn the river back on once the site has been built in.I am half tempted to use this guy to test what happens when a heavy MEC engages a glorified, but we don't have anything really set up for that right now. So for the moment.# Keep him sedated.Maybe we'll find a use for him later.
>>353654>>353425Having a disposable asset to try to pick a fight with a Glorified is good; making sure you're ready to make full use of this is better.Plans to build a sort of MEC "zombie horde" with cheap metabolic extension controllers and heavy drugging for control were shelved long ago, but Francis was an enemy, and made his choices.> Your Space focus is building a canopy-top station.> Your Nuclear focus is "peaceful" applications: engines and mutated plants.> Your MEC focus is heavies.> Your Sonics focus is heavy offensive platforms.> Your AI focus is drones.Quinn thinks that the fight at the end of the world might be interesting, but it'd be more elegant to prevent it - why use a bludgeon when a dagger will do.Vee is concerned about the lack of shock-and-awe options like nuclear bombs, orbital weapons, or demolition systems.Kat believes that a war of attrition can actually be won: even if TurboJesus annihilates TOL's army, what of yours?Jeb recommends letting TOL and Yahweh have their silly fight and putting it on Martian pay-per-view.Damien wonders what happens if the Great Army is made to attack New Jerusalem early.
>>353707>Quinn thinks that the fight at the end of the world might be interesting, but it'd be more elegant to prevent it - why use a bludgeon when a dagger will do.Does she have any ideas?>Vee is concerned about the lack of shock-and-awe options like nuclear bombs, orbital weapons, or demolition systems.Agreed on that point. Bombs will come. >Jeb recommends letting TOL and Yahweh have their silly fight and putting it on Martian pay-per-view.I am concerned about the potential to reach out well beyond the Earth. Also, all of the people that will be left behind to hell. We can only take a tiny fraction. >Damien wonders what happens if the Great Army is made to attack New Jerusalem early.That is an interesting question.
>>353707You have 15 cabals total; 11 are available.You are actively tracking enemy teams where you have assets (see picture). Rules: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.htmlVariable complexity:# Launch an attack on a TOL base or government installation.# Work on global data network infrastructure, incidentally making sure that you control more of it.Complexity 0Complexity 1# Assign a cabal to improve the well-being of your other forces.# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.# Send a cabal to the Middle East, to see what unique opportunities that region offers (see below)# Take advantage of discovered opportunties: Southern America: Darwin's Finches look alike again, but have not homogenized genetically. As above, this may help prove that evolution isn't a fairy tale.Greenland: The place is mostly empty. It should be possible to build a dedicated production facility here.Complexity 2# Produce MECs at any base. This adds one dot to the MEC cabal counter per base.# Produce drones at any base. Current focus: Medium-sized land drones.# Work your Osaze base overtime to improve prosperity.# Use the Australia base to start bringing the territory under your control (1/5)# Use the Australia base to seed whichever botanical abomination you have ready.# Use a base to build a launch pad.Complexity 3# Continue pursuing space research. Space Race rules, but the Cosmists will assist your efforts here, counting as one cabal regardless.# Continue nuclear or sonic research. (Nuclear research will focus on botany and engines ). (Sonic research needs a new direction: medium or heavy)# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).# Use a launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch. Station structure: 0/8Complexity 4# Continue pursuing MEC or AI research.# Recruit. This has gotten a little harder across the board.Complexity 5# Estabilish a base in a region where you have no contacts. Eastern Europe is ripe for this. The Middle East is ripe for this.# Take over a TOL base by force.
>>353741Quinn is game for assassinating TurboJesus. Would the scythe of the Angel of Death do the job?Vee hopes that 57 years is enough.Jeb says that he's worried about the species in its entirety, and will even agree to stay behind and face the judgement if that's what it takes.Damien figures that provoking TOL can't be that hard.
>>353768># Establish a base in a region where you have no contacts. Eastern Europe is ripe for this.5 Cabals. Vee and Jenny on it. I strongly believe that we need to start experimenting with those fireflies sooner rather than later. Use the scythe as a bore if it will help. Given the population in Australia, is it worth bringing it under our control right now? Any thoughts from others?># Produce MECs at any base. This adds one dot to the MEC cabal counter per base.2 Cabals, Australia. Kat on it for security in the region. ># Continue pursuing MEC4 Cabals, Quinn and Damien. If anyone knows field requirements for MECs... Do it in California if possible, leaves that place not a skeleton crew.># Jeb can mind the fort at home and live it up as a hero this year. We have two systems Cabals at home anyway, if needed. We're close to the MEC capstone and I want to find out what it is before the midgame is done. I feel it makes sense to finish the tree given our current position.
What is the Californian economy doing? Much the same thing it was before the soft take over? Anything from our hardware backdoors yet?
>>353768>>353779Only have time for one post Four cabals on MEC research. Let's get those capstones. Send quinn after styr. Preferably pulling him out of a dangerous situation and chatting with him, avoid that Paul guy hunting him and keep him away from styr. Aside from that good luck.
>>353854>Send quinn after styr. Preferably pulling him out of a dangerous situation and chatting with him, avoid that Paul guy hunting him and keep him away from styr.Changing my vote to this. Keep the cabals on MEC research with Damien, but put Quinn on tracking down Styr. If she wants an adventure, she'll get one.
>>353850The Pacific Coast seems to be doing fairly well, not anywhere near Osaze, but better than average; people enjoy the benefits of decentralization while the Colossus system removes most of the drawbacks.Given how the official economy works in the Millennial Kingdom, territories where there are more believers than unbelievers (all of them save Osaze, really) suffer from a bit of a duplication of efforts problem, but not majorly so.>>353860>>353854Does Quinn get a support cabal, or is this a solo mission?
>>353865Eh, let's roll the dice for once. #Take one of the cabals from MEC production and use it as support. Maybe we'll get lucky with the MECs since Kat is there and it's routine.
Ask Jeb his thoughts on capturing a glorified and ejecting them, sedated, out of the water canopy bound for nowhere. Hard vacuum in the capsule in the event of angels/escape. On that note, we should try baiting an angel soon, guys. I was thinking we stir up some minor but significant news to draw Cameron to an isolated region, then pull a snatch and grab like we did with Raymiee; we can test the effect of heavies engaging a glorified using our TOL MEC and then try adapting some MEC frames for vacuum combat against the angel that will show up once we unsedate Cameron.
Speaking of which, did raymiee pass out from lack of oxygen? Did it keep him out, or was that just the sedative?
>>353937Ask Vee as well, she might be helpful on the lack of sound part of the vacuum of space
Rolled 43, 18 = 61 (2d100)>>354120>>353961Raymie passed out from hypoxia, and was kept sedated after being given a respirator. Vee notes that her systems will, of course, be useless in a vacuum, but so should the Angel's "trumpet blast" and, likely, its soporific benison.>>353828Vee once again takes Jenny, and an initial construction crew sets up in the Wieliczka salt mine. Great care is taken to not disturb the wingless firefly colony, which Jenny is unofficially put in charge of, with good results. Vee reckons that it should be possible to build a realistic recreation of the night sky in here, which may help with training astronauts, or recreating events that used to be associated with nighttime. Some of the salt art is lost (due to overenthusiastic use of wubbers to separate the crystal formations) but most is preserved; a few quick attempts are made to use Azrael's scythe, and they are successful, but Vee is worried about corrosion and discontinues the experiment. "We may only have one shot at using this thing. Let's make it count." Before long, a section of a town is planned in one of the great underground chambers, affectionately dubbed "Night City" and to be filled with neon. It should become possible to make this place self-sufficient in five years, although production facilities go up within the first year.>>353828Kat keeps an eye on the nuclear mine while metabolic extension controllers are churned out at a steady pace. The job is simple; those who sign up for it can be turned into Infiltrator MECs if they die of unbelief at 100, or Heavy MECs if they die earlier from accident or injury. Kat's job is just to match construction of the appropriate number of frames with the expected demand. Volunteers are given special sedatives that disable their sense of touch for a few days in order to make sure that there's informed consent about the MEC system limitations; since the technology is public, no name changes are required anymore, and quite a few early adopters have returned to their families by now. Unfortunately, those with believing relatives have been almost universally rejected (the few exceptions being those with very elderly Natural relatives, who are feeble enough to depend on the revenants' care and may not have understood the situation).Jeb and Valentina have planned out an ISRU system for the canopy station; six launches should be sufficient for setting up a base up there, with two more necessary to establish actual orbital capabilities.
>>354596Damien works closely with Kat trying to refine the MEC system; by now, the basic implant can be applied by a single paramedic, keeping the brain, heart and lungs stimulated and the patient knocked out to avoid experiencing Hell until the body can be taken to a surgeon for the brain snip. All bodies get up, and this method has a less than 10% chance of failure, usually due to incomplete sedation, experiencing Hell-pain for too long, and insanity.Damien reports that, in just the right conditions, something very close to an orgasm can be triggered by lingual stimulation alone; for heavies, this requires not being in a frame for a few days, and for infiltrators, it requires intense focus. Damien has had years to perfect the techniques. This is apparently because the signal doesn't go through the spine; the prospect of a significant part of your forces getting into oral sex as much as Damien is mildly disturbing, but the benefits are obvious. "We don't think we can restore proprioception, but just being able to enjoy sex in the not abstract sense again, well, it'd definitely help morale. We'd have to keep messing with it."# Tell your other MECs about Francis.# Don't.Quinn sets off to look for Styr Magnor. The guy is not stupid; his mortar attacks are done with great precision, indicating a knowledge of ballistics. By the look of it, he's targeting buildings in one particular village near what used to be Philadelphia (they've recovered the Liberty Bell, incidentally, and put it on a church bell tower; it still sounds weird, of course). So far, all commercial buildings, and both believers and nonbelievers have been hit. Invariably, he leaves a note by RC airplane, saying that this building has been claimed by the Angry Storm and is not to be repaired; he's believed to have a handful of accomplices. In a sense he's doing what you're doing, except on a much smaller scale, but he also sabotaged you (or tried to).Paul Stepola, ace detective, so far has managed to make a big production of cordoning off the area in which Styr is supposedly operating -- and getting it right so far -- and boss around the local cops and psalties to the point where they've given him a badge, a special title, a police cruiser, and a lot of room to operate if that's what it takes to keep him out of the way.Quinn's support personnel can help with stakeouts, triangulation, and covering fire if necessary; most of her support cabal is alive, but she's brought a couple of infiltrators just in case.# Quinn should buy a store and bait Styr. She can take some mortar fire.# Quinn should wait for an attack, and try to stalk the RC plane radio signal.# Quinn should focus on following Paul Stepola, instead, and maybe rescue Magnor from him.# Quinn should make a spectacle of herself to see if this attracts the attention of either of those two. She's good at it.
>>354698># Tell your other MECs about Francis.Be honest, explain that we needed to explore our options in regards to dealing with people who aren't believers, but are also in opposition. I don't want to send people to hell, and if they wake up after and would rather die, they still have that choice. ># Quinn should wait for an attack, and try to stalk the RC plane radio signal.It could be a trap, that's a possibility. But we're good at infowar, probably the most advanced on the planet right now. Have her support cabal focus on making sure Quinn isn't following a signal back to a bomb as best they can, and recovering her if she is. What are the population numbers in Australia like? Sorry, forgot that. #Ask Vee how much time she thinks the scythe would shave off establishing the base to self sufficiency? Also, how much faster would it be for tunnel boring to prepare for a temple collapse using the scythe versus traditional bores?
>>354749Knowing about Francis causes such a row between Kat and Damien that, after causing some collateral damage, they end up finishing the argument outside of their frame. Kat feels that this isn't something that should ever be done nonconsensually, as much as she understand that there's an exception to be made, while Damien believes that literally anything is better than being in Hell.Australia has a population of appx. 6 million people, almost all of which live on the coast; most of the outback is green, but a desert area in the middle remains.Quinn happens to be in the vicinity when a mortar attack happens, at a haberdashery just a hour or so after closing time (In the Millennial Kingdom, despite having 24/7 light, night shifts only happen in essential industries and pretty much all businesses close early on Wednesday and all day on Sunday to allow for worship). Like with the other attacks, soon a RC plane drops off a photo roll canister containing a lead slug for weight and the usual message; unlike with the other attacks, her cabal is ready with radiolocators.Quinn is given turn-by-turn directions and runs with superhuman speed towards a restaurant which, by the look of it, has not yet been surrounded by the regular police; she effortlessly jumps on the roof and gets into the kitchen area from a skylight.In the restaurant, Styr and Paul are talking, quietly but tensely. She guesses that both of them have guns aimed at each other under the table. The transmitter is in Styr's briefcase, with a small wire coming out of it that suggests that he had a joystick on the table; the RC plane is pretty sophisticated and featured a camera.Both men look over 100, which is odd in Styr's case; Paul is clearly much older, and is wearing spring braces of the kind that Sarsour had had the MF makerspace manufacture. They don't seem to have gotten better.# Film who shoots first, if either. # Intervene.
>>354983>Kat feels that this isn't something that should ever be done nonconsensually, as much as she understand that there's an exception to be made, while Damien believes that literally anything is better than being in Hell.# I hate doing this too, it's a terrible situation and a terrible decision, but these people are acting under false information. Have you heard the shit this guy was told about us from TOL? I don't want to condemn anymore people who were brave enough to stand up to the authority to hell. If that's their choice after they've heard the other side of the story, they have that right, but they deserve to be able to make an informed decision.From now on we'll try to resolve things non-lethally to begin with if at all possible. Give them options, talk them down. Would that make you feel any better about it, Kat?> # Intervene.Attempt to distract Paul, tell Styr to get out of there, or at least give him the edge. Try to cover his escape. If he'll come with us, great, if not then maybe he'll remember this the next time we run into him.
>>355024And tell Quinn her priority is getting out alive. I don't want her doing anything that will get her incinerated. Positioning herself so Paul's gaze shifts first might be a good idea, should give Styr the advantage before she even says anything.
>>355024>>355049Quinn intervenes by bringing the two their drinks and shoving a lot of synthmesh cleavage between them. It doesn't take long for them to recognize her. Almost at the same time, they shout "Ha! I knew you were working with them!", and leap back from their chairs; the younger Magnor pushes back better, but you're very sure that Paul Stepola shot first, hitting Magnor in the shoulder. He goes down. She takes a pistol bullet in the boobs, but it's nothing that can't be fixed.Quinn is a marvel of muscle, titanium and Flexinol, and even with a hole in her tummy she can easily overpower one of these opponents, maybe both. She has a few seconds to:# Drag Magnor to safety before Paul shoots again.# Eliminate Paul.# Kick Paul's ass without killing him.# Just GTFO.
>>355203># Drag Magnor to safety before Paul shoots again.
>>355243Quinn turns around and lets Paul empty his revolver on her corset and armored shoulderblades, shielding Magnor.The man shouts "Angry Storm!" and then says the same phrase again, trying for a normal tone of voice while being loud, despite the shoulder wound. Styr Magnor's suitcase beeps once, and then you lose telemetry in the area, except for the Sky Eye which shows police surrounding the restaurants even as Quinn's support cabal try to get her out of there.Within minutes, the airwaves are full of headlines to the tune of "ACE DETECTIVE PAUL STEPOLA CAPTURES TERRORIST STYR MAGNOR, DISPATCHES DEMONIC COMPANION".You make contact with Quinn again after she gets out of the body bag and crashes the ambulance she had been piled in. By now, thanks largely to your influence, even this territory has videophones; she calls you from one of them. She looks pale and exsanguinated. "Omega, I've got to turn myself off. Details later."Her support personnel recovers her, and they are debriefed at a temporary safehouse."This is bad. So, for one, Styr Magnor had an EMP device. Knocked me right out." Quinn is shaking; she clearly experienced Hell again. "I came back because the coroner flipped me over and tripped the reboot switch. Got very lucky there. Second, check out the news."A different camera angle, probably set up with the sting operation, shows Styr shooting first, missing horribly, and then Paul taking him down. You can tell by some of the pixels that the video has been edited somewhat. The tone is, unsurprisingly, triumphalistic. It also mentions that Styr's "succubus minion" has been incinerated."Outright lying, they never did that before."
>>355569# The game is changing, then. Things are starting to off the rails and they're reacting. I'm glad you aren't dead, good work. On the plus side, you should see some of the MEC research that's happened. We'll look into EMP hardening soon.Do we have any footage of the real event that we could release onto the net? It's something to consider. Also, do we know the actual status of Styr? Captured? Dead? Escaped?
>>355580You have full telemetry records, and audio, but no video; while it's easy to make a case that the two do not match, it'd probably at best generate a controversy.Styr is said to be in custody and awaiting trial; this sort of "trial" tends to be very brief. Quinn has been patched up and given a blood refill.# Raid the jail and bust him out. He should understand that you may be on the same side after that.# Focus on recovering the EMP. That's dangerous to you personally, your drones, your MECs, and even your regular troopers armed with wubbers, since they're electrical.# Mess with everyone by having the best lawyer from Osaze fly over, represent Styr pro-bono, and discredit the whole trial by proving that the news footage was edited.
>>355594>Mess with everyone by having the best lawyer from Osaze fly over, represent Styr pro-bono, and discredit the whole trial by proving that the news footage was edited.Not likely to fix the situation. It'd drag the trial out and possibly force a re-trial using other evidence but, the man was mortaring buildings and unless this is the only footage/photo they have of him with which to identify him I can't see it getting him off. >Raid the jail and bust him out. He should understand that you may be on the same side after that.What do we know about the jail and what assets can we bring to bear for this? Where is the jail he's being held? Which country and what's the political climate like?> Focus on recovering the EMP. That's dangerous to you personally, your drones, your MECs, and even your regular troopers armed with wubbers, since they're electrical.Interesting but EMPs aren't terribly hard to produce, though given the range it's definitely interesting. EMP hardening should be pretty well documented too though. I imagine it's just annoying to re-tool our gear to deal with.
>>355606Given the range (around one block in every direction) and the fact that it was sitting in a suitcase, Styr's device is actually pretty impressive. It's probably in an evidence locker, and getting it out can be done quietly.The jail is in Rust City, and while it's very heavily guarded, Quinn is confident that her cabal can clear it out by incapacitating the guards with wubbers, killing anyone who doesn't go down, and crashing a van into the jail itself. It would not be a clean operation, though.Styr Magnor's face is pretty well known by now, especially considering that he refuses to shave.
>>355616>The jail is in Rust City, and while it's very heavily guarded, Quinn is confident that her cabal can clear it out by incapacitating the guards with wubbers, killing anyone who doesn't go down, and crashing a van into the jail itself. It would not be a clean operation, though.Quinn, what about the glorified? I have a sneaking suspicion he's going to be watching over styr to prevent exactly this sort of thing. Any ideas on dealing with that? On the plus side, if they think that you're dead, it's a bit less likely this will be a trap. How long has it been since Quinn gave them the slip? Presumably the missing body has been noted? I assume we don't have anymore assets that can be moved in to assist in a reasonable timeframe?
>>355623You can't redeploy assets quickly on this one.Quinn is pretty sure that she can take an angel if it comes to that. You're not; even with Colopatiron, she had a lot of help.It's been a couple hours, long enough to patch Quinn up (she's in fighting shape, but any cosmetic work will have to wait) and make sure everyone made a clean getaway. The missing body probably has been noted, but they aren't saying anything on the news or on the public net; as it is, the guards at the jail seem set up to prevent people outside coming in, rather than Styr getting out.# Evac and be happy with the data obtained.# Go for the EMP briefcase.# Break Styr out and risk a firefight or worse.
>>355644># Go for the EMP briefcase.Does she have a plan on this one?
>>355651Pretend to be bomb technicians, go in, do as much reverse engineering as possible on-site, and actually leave it there after having made sure that it cannot indeed go off again: the general principle should be easy to glean. There are many ways to generate an electromagnetic pulse, and all that's require is figuring out which one Mr. Magnor has managed to optimize.
>>355665Sure, I'll take it.
Rolled 94 (1d100)>>355665Quinn mostly sits this one out, observing from the roof of a nearby building ready to create a distraction. Her support cabal rent a van, paint it, swap some license plates around, show up in overalls and lab coats and are allowed in the evidence locker as long as one of the cops is with them. Under the guard's guard, they take extensive video and pictures of the device, get some voltmeter readings, cut a couple of wires, and declare it safe to keep in storage.
>>355669Magnor's system is a set of six small flux compression generator bombs, each tripped by a large-bore blank shotgun shell; the device is single use only, as someone would then have to separate the windings all over again, and likely replace at least one or two.It has been hand-build with a steady hand and a lot of expertise; the components inside are taken from various bits of consumer electronics, or have been hand-machined. This hints at a single person, or a small group, having built it. That said, it's a decade ahead of what your guys could have made; notches and marks on the mainboard indicate that the precise placement of components is essential to its functioning.The overall impression is an artisan's masterpiece, rather than something mass produced.The team puts all the parts back in the suitcase, says goodbye to the guard, and makes a clean getaway.
Before they run off:Debrief our guys. What did they see in there? Any glorified? Do we still have time to attempt a breakout?
>>355684They note that Cameron was interviewing Paul and Styr (at the same time, for some reason) and, as he's wont, doing most of the talking. Attempting a breakout without heavies would probably leave a lot of bodies on the ground, at minimum.>>355024Kat has no problems killing believers. At best, they get to go to heaven. At worst, her theory is that heaven is some sort of blissful lobotomy while Yahweh eats most of the soul, and well, they chose it. She's not as willing to kill unbelievers, even enemies.
>>355696>Kat has no problems killing believers. At best, they get to go to heaven. At worst, her theory is that heaven is some sort of blissful lobotomy while Yahweh eats most of the soul, and well, they chose it. She's not as willing to kill unbelievers, even enemies.Yeah, I meant regarding TOL. I'm not terribly worried about believers at this juncture. >They note that Cameron was interviewing Paul and Styr (at the same time, for some reason) and, as he's wont, doing most of the talking. Attempting a breakout without heavies would probably leave a lot of bodies on the ground, at minimum.Okay, fuck that. Do we know what's likely to happen to styr? Put to death? If so, how, where and when?
>>355696Media survey indicates that Styr Magnor is assumed by the authorities to be some sort of cybercriminal mastermind, instead of being a sort of Unabomber copycat; he's getting charged for a lot of the things your agents have done. His age is given as 98, although he definitely looked older.The only statement of his that is broadcast is that he believes Omega to really be Satan, and Satan to actually be in league with Yahweh, its job to make sure that Yahweh can have fun defeating an enemy. This is dismissed as Styr protecting other members of his terrorist group by calling them enemies.Uncharacteristically, Cameron lets Paul close out the interview. "Nothing is automatic; nothing is guaranteed. While Satan is bound and thus could not tempt people to sin, could not fill their hearts with doubt and fear and questions, clearly the other two legs of the three-legged stool of evil—the world, the flesh, and the devil—are enough to lead one astray."In the next segment, another pundit notes that there is great correlation between technical skill and unwillingness to accept the Lord, and that since the world has only 55 years to go, it may be wise to start shutting down some of the hotbeds of "not only disbelief, but active enmity" such as institutions of higher learning.>>355703The trial is scheduled to take place in Greater Jerusalem, since Styr Magnor has operated in multiple territories; if there is to be death (almost certainly) it will probably happen by lightning, right after the sentence. Estimates indicate that it will happen at the end of next year, following a thorough forensic analysis of all the bombing sites.Before then, Styr Magnor will have to undergo surgery to remove the bullet from his shoulder, as the Temple Tribunal requires defendants to be hale.Sending a cabal to install a metabolic extension controller on Styr Magnor is extremely dangerous, but feasible. "Maybe if we can get the Mark X prototype to work..."Over the year, the Millennium Force have managed to get their act together once more; the result is that while Osaze is still doing well, the neighboring territories also have gotten an infrastructure boost which makes the territory look less impressive. To their credit, they start arguing against closing universities. The controversy causes Christian presence on the web to expand.TOL agents have started snooping around the former salt mine.
>>355724You have 15 cabals total; 11 are available.You are actively tracking enemy teams where you have assets (see picture). Rules: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.htmlVariable complexity:# Launch an attack on a TOL base or government installation.# Work on global data network infrastructure, incidentally making sure that you control more of it.# Try to Break out Magnor. Complexity 0Complexity 1# Assign a cabal to improve the well-being of your other forces.# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.# Send a cabal to the Middle East, to see what unique opportunities that region offers (see below)# Take advantage of discovered opportunties:Southern America: Darwin's Finches look alike again, but have not homogenized genetically. As above, this may help prove that evolution isn't a fairy tale.Greenland: The place is mostly empty. It should be possible to build a dedicated production facility here.Complexity 2# Produce MECs at any base. This adds one dot to the MEC cabal counter per base.# Produce drones at any base. Current focus: Medium-sized land drones.# Work your Osaze or Pacifica base overtime to improve prosperity.# Use the Australia base to start bringing the territory under your control (1/5)# Use the Australia base to seed whichever botanical abomination you have ready.# Use a base to build a launch pad.Complexity 3# Continue pursuing space research. Space Race rules, but the Cosmists will assist your efforts here, counting as one cabal regardless.# Continue nuclear or sonic research. (Nuclear research will focus on botany and engines ). (Sonic research needs a new direction: medium or heavy)# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).# Use a launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch. Station structure: 0/8Complexity 4# Continue pursuing AI research.# Recruit. This has gotten a little harder across the board.Complexity 5# Estabilish a base in a region where you have no contacts. The Middle East is ripe for this.# Conduct MEC research. Your workers think that the system has been all but perfected right now.# Take over a TOL base by force.Complexity 8# Rush out the Mark X metabolic extension controller so that it can be installed on Magnor, and risk sending an extraction team into the Temple Tribunal!
>>355724Seeing as we're 9/10 on MEC, what's the capstone? Being able to enjoy sex was it, yeah? There's always so much to do...We'll have to consider our options with Styr, definitely high risk at this point, but he's a very intriguing figure.
>>355744>dedicated production facility here.How much manpower would it require to, you know, produce things? The same as using a regular base?
>>355744And, what's the complexity of bringing the eastern Europe base to self sufficiency?
>>355745The Mark X metabolic extension controller is entirely automated; it gets implanted a few years before putative "dying of unbelief" and automatically isolates the pain center of the brain upon detection of death before reanimating the host. This should bring the reanimation success rate to essentially 100%. The system will also activate upon electrocution. The implant is an outpatient procedure requiring about a week of bed rest, largely due to the grounding wire between cranium and heel, and the implant is hidden below the left shoulderblade, with a standard port under the skin for injecting stimulants if required. It doesn't come with any of the other MEC perks, but those can be added later.Damien's... research... shows that it is possible for MEC agents to enjoy sex again. Thanks to neuroplasticity-promoting drugs, the brain can be encouraged to rewire itself to restore some sense of touch while avoiding pain, and eventually allow for sexual response. This takes a few years and some effort, but a MEC agent has 900 years to live and most people would probably be willing to put in the effort. Damien managed to do this on his/her tongue without the drugs, just by mindfulness training.>>355754A dedicated production facility would require very little manpower, tie up a cabal for system administration, and just keep working on drones, weapons, or MEC frames.>>355764(argh, messed up the copy paste again) Two.
>>355792A note on the report indicates that, should it be required, a pain-pleasure Skinnerian reaction control system would be extremely simple to implement by adding a basic GPRS radio to the unit; the firmware could even be flashed remotely. The application for large scale population control are obvious.
>>355792>>355744># Conduct MEC research. Your workers think that the system has been all but perfected right now.5 Cabals with Quinn and Damien on it. They can field test and prototype all they like. >#Greenland: The place is mostly empty. It should be possible to build a dedicated production facility here.If I'm reading this right, one cabal should do it? 1 Cabal, put Jeb on it. We need to be careful so any drones produced don't shoot a glorified and the whole engineer team vaporizes as a result. ># 2 cabals continuing work on the base in Europe, send Jenny and Vee. ># Assign a cabal to improve the well-being of your other forces.1 Cabal, Vee has earned her DJing lessons. Even if she might not be in Misrayim to put on shows. ># Produce MECs at any base. This adds one dot to the MEC cabal counter per base.We're going to roll the dice again. 2 cabals, but one of them in the pacific base and one of them in the Australian base. Put Kat on the Australian team because I still don't trust TOL to fuck off. Attempt to produce MECs using the Misrayim base, but it doesn't have a cabal for that, unless the systems admin people are capable of fulfilling that role? # Send 1 drone group with Vee to Europe for some extra security.
>>355838(Note that the complexity 8 option includes 5 to wrap up the Mark X, 2 to rush a prototype, and 1 to stick it in Magnor )
>>355851That makes it more interesting but I feel it's too high risk. Bad rolls could lead to a dead infiltration team, Casus Belli on Osaze, a prototype in the authority's hands and a dead Styr anyway. Too many points of failure for my taste, unless they're holding him in low security prison or some shit.
>>355860They're definitely not holding him in low security. The Millenial Kingdom isn't particularly good at prisons, but for this particular prisoner, that problem is solved by heavy shackles and three-shifts surveillance.
>>355875Night, looking forward to results tomorrow.
Also, for greenland:#Encourage Hephaestus worship among the cabal that will be managing the systems at the production facility. If we have any sincere worshipers in our ranks, put them on the project and throw some shrines up.
Rolled 70, 15 = 85 (2d100)>>355838Jeb takes the opportunity to spend time in one of the world's few remaining snowy areas and tries to use it as training for an eventual canopy station. An automated assembly line has been put together by using the work of those who plan to 5150 out rather than get MEC'd or frozen; the few people manning it only have to keep the power on and operate the supply chain.He estimates that in five years, the plant will be fully operational.Work on Night City continues; Jenny's taken the firefly project seriously, and by the simple expedient of digging a bit past the salt deposit, has managed to create a larger habitat. Taking a cue from the botany program, she's requested a bit of nuclear fuel and set up a layered breeding area. This has resulted in a lot of dead new fireflies, and a few that are regaining flight. A few people are starting to move there, including some of the Cosmists, who are installing LEDs on the ceiling to simulate the night sky. The few drones you have are brought there and fitted with wubber-compatible sonars to navigate in the dark, which improves their indoor navigation.Some of your agents coordinate your forces between Pacifica, Misrayim, Australia and Eastern Europe to make sure everyone gets some downtime; unused cabins on cargo ships are rented to let people travel, the first laser show happens in one of Night City's domes (with Vee spinning, after a bit of one-on-one tutoring), and generally try to improve morale.
>>356215I'll take it.
>>356215Kat is too busy with mining to retool the Australia base to build the new MEC units, but the folks in Pacifica have better luck with it; the decentralized territorial management seems to work, at least in this odd situation that has been created.While most of the R&D is done in Misrayim, Tree Of Life (which your cabals own a supermajority of, of course) reopens the historic St. Jude Medical Center in Orange County after changing Jude to Judas. The new facility has been built to resemble 1950s retro-futurism. Damien rides a management rail to show off for the local press, and demonstrates the advanced medical technology available there.The perfected MEC installation procedure is shown to the journalists as performed on a 95 year old young man who claims to be "undecided" on matters of faith, but wants the assurance that he'll have plenty of time to think about it; when the journalists ask Damien about the current sixth-commandment case with the Temple Tribunal (the case is being made that, just as it is wrong to kill without God's permission, it is wrong to preserve a life that God has decreed over) the answer is that technically, the patient spends about three seconds dead and that past that it's a matter for the lawyers, not the doctors. Damien reminds the reporters that Tree of Life is open to believers too, and shows them some advancements in geriatric medicine that have come as offshoots of MEC tech, such as nerve recabling.Since believers still will not interact with visible MECs, Damien is hidden inside a beach ball painted white, and assures the reporters that they are not talking to a demon or an AI.At the other end of the spectrum, Quinn is showing off the Mark X infiltrator package to California's growing Extropian subculture by effortlessly completing the American Gladiator course, then doing so backward with her visor down and only the sonars wired in.# Fully open source the basic Mark X metabolic extension controller (but keep control of the infiltrator/combat and heavy conversion procdedures).# Remain the only provider of the technology in its entirety.
>>356223># Fully open source the basic Mark X metabolic extension controller (but keep control of the infiltrator/combat and heavy conversion procdedures).As useful as it might be as recruiting leverage to hold it; anything to weaken the belief in God having control over life and death and to prevent more souls reaching hell. I also hope this can help with a population boom of non believers.
>>355947Haephestus worshipers will be encouraged to join the Greenland maintenance team. Jeb also plans to build a mock top-of-canopy habitat there for training purposes.Styr Magnor gets better, and is publicly tried in the Temple courtyard for violating a number of commandments. Ranting about his theory that Omega is Satan and that Satan never fell, he forces his court-appointed lawyer to enter a guilty plea by not answering, keeps ranting after being offered a last chance to repent, and is swiftly ended by a bolt of lightning from the clear sky.Paul Stepola moves to Pacifica with the stated intent to eliminate any remnant of the Angry Storm.Kat, Damien and Quinn figure that while MEC tech has gotten as good as it can, integration between MECs and drones has potential.You have lost some of your internet dominance.You have 15 cabals total; 10 are available.You are actively tracking enemy teams where you have assets (see picture). Rules: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.htmlVariable complexity:# Launch an attack on a TOL base or government installation.# Work on global data network infrastructure, incidentally making sure that you control more of it.Complexity 0Try to produce drones in the Greenland base (20%)Complexity 1# Assign a cabal to improve the well-being of your other forces.# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.# Take advantage of discovered opportunties:Southern America: Darwin's Finches look alike again, but have not homogenized genetically. As above, this may help prove that evolution isn't a fairy tale.Complexity 2# Produce MECs at any base. This adds one dot to the MEC cabal counter per base.# Produce drones at any base. Current focus: Medium-sized land drones.# Work your Osaze or Pacifica base overtime to improve prosperity.# Use the Australia or Eastern Europe base to start bringing the territory under your control (1/5)# Use the Australia or Eastern Europe base to seed whichever botanical abomination you have ready.# Keep expanding Night City.# Keep working on your production facility.Complexity 3# Continue pursuing space research. Space Race rules, but the Cosmists will assist your efforts here, counting as one cabal regardless.# Continue nuclear or sonic research. (Nuclear research will focus on botany and engines ). (Sonic research needs a new direction: medium or heavy)# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).# Use a launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch. Station structure: 0/8Complexity 4# Recruit. This has gotten a little harder across the board, mostly because of TOL taking credit for some of your work.# Begin building a base in the Middle East.Complexity 5# Estabilish a base in a region where you have no contacts. The Middle East is ripe for this.# Take over a TOL base by force.
>>356227>Try to produce drones in the Greenland base (20%)Does this delay bringing the facility up to speed?
>>356226While worried that this directly helps fulfill the prophecies, Quinn agrees that anything that keeps people out of Hell has benefits.The basic Mark X metabolic extension controller design is officially open-sourced by Tree Of Life in a brief ceremony where sets of beautifully made blueprints are given to representatives from medical centers all over the world. The elderly and somewhat wizened Jerusalem representative accepts the gift, causing some consternation, noting that it's a fantastic pacemaker system and, while Naturals are not to be mourned as they get to Heaven a few dozen years ahead of everyone else, they have earned the right to try and see the end of the struggle with mortal eyes of they so choose.Theologians can no longer get away with saying that MECs are demons, and scramble to find a better interpretation of the Temple sentence from a few years ago. Heavies continue to be discriminated against in this sense; either they are grotesque abominations of misguided science, or heartless machines, or demons. Given that the unbeliever population boom had already started for demographic reasons, this is less of an issue than it would have been even 40 years ago; the prophecy states that believers will once again be in the minority on the Last Day.>>356229Yes; a base can only work on one thing at a time - this includes itself.
>>356227(Oops, forgot the picture!)
>>356232Thanks to the fact that they don't have to hide, some of the MECs are straddling the line between humanoid and heavy. This mostly happens on their own dime, but in general, specialized MEC configurations are now available if a mission requires it. Jeb finds this very interesting for exoatmospheric laborers, although he himself doesn't want any for now.
>>356227># Keep working on your production facility.2 Cabals, keep Jeb on it. ># Keep expanding Night City.2 Cabals, keep Jenny and Vee on it. ># Produce MECs at any base. This adds one dot to the MEC cabal counter per base.2 Cabals, Australia, put Kat on it. Also attempt to produce MECs in California and Misrayim, though there will be no cabals.># Launch an attack on a TOL base or government installation.4 Cabals, Quinn and Damien. Europe base. Specifically, I want to try to talk them down. #We've offered you a means of escaping hell by open sourcing the MEC technology, we've worked to loosen and break the Christian hold on two territories, we've killed Azrael and defied God. What have your bosses done? They want to repeat the exact same attack that failed 900 years ago, only instead of using the pinnacle of combined human military might and half the world's nuclear arms; they want to do it with WWII equipment and no atomics. God has already predicted that Lucifer will rebel again and be defeated. I'm not saying to go against him, only that we need to try something new, we need to break free of these prophecies, perhaps even attack early. We've accomplished more in 50 years than the council has in hundreds, by using men and women just like yourselves. Join us, or at least stop getting in our way and shooting at us, we should be working together. Also, we have lots of drugs. If they won't back down, at least beat them down a bit in the area so they won't get frisky with the Europe base. MEC survivors. Try to organize this attack in such a way that they're actually capable of changing sides if they so desire, rather than just being shot in the back by comrades. Be it a smoke screen to give them cover to slip away, or some kind of warning and a time frame to get out. Whatever works based on how this base is structured. Also, Quinn and Damien are free to persuade however they think is best in the field, if they see an opportunity I didn't.
>>356226Of course, it is very likely in the following years that at least one person with a preemptively implanted Mark X will convert before reaching the age of 100; the theological and legal ramifications are already being discussed. Quinn figures that as long as the thing works, who cares.>>356240https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BIdy2fQK5I (gotta go horizontal for real now it's 2am)
How long would it take to build another angel trap like the one used on colaptron? For anyone that comes in here after I head off to sleep: Europe is happening both because it could further narrative causality by breeding fireflies and because it would allow us to secure the secondary launch pad the cosmists have. Launch out of Osaze is dangerous right now. The martian backup plan is a fall back of sorts, I hope. Maybe it won't work but it would give us the orbitals anyway, so it's worth attempting. It also ties nicely into reactor research, and reactors will give us bombs in significant quantities later, anyway. TOL is becoming a big problem by soaking up recruits and being generally useless, if not openly hostile. I want to attempt to turn some of their men so that we can use those to turn more and so on. It's optimistic, but at the very least it means they won't be shooting at our rockets in eastern Europe. The production facility is happening because I want a sane way to produce some of the nice toys we've come up with. There's tons of need for recruitment and research, and our cabals keep getting bogged down in administrative tasks, so this will hopefully allow for a steady stream of MECs/combat units. Those combat units should hopefully allow us to be more free with our offensives. Right now we simply can't sustain losses. I want to build an angel/glorified trap because we need to test some more things against angels, we need to test drones to make sure our production plants don't explode or anything and because we need to understand how divine retribution involving glorified works and how to deal with it. We also need to try turning an angel, that could be enormously beneficial and we absolutely should attempt it in a controlled setting. Other questions for spirit once you wake up:Can we pursue reaper type drones later even though we chose tanks? Can we undertake a project to manufacture more desolater type units? Or a scaled up radiation emitter for use on a drone? Can you give us a write in option to draw Cameron into an area for capture by creating some news? >(gotta go horizontal for real now it's 2am)Goodnight.
>>356227# Produce MECs at all bases. 2 cabals.# Keep expanding Night City. 2 cabals. Assign Jeb and Vee.# Eliminate an Australian TOL cabal. 3 cabals. Assign Kat and Damien.# 1 cabal to guard Eastern Europe. Assign Quinn.
>>356240There's parts of this plan which I really disagree with.Assigning MECs to a single base is really mismanaging our resources. It has only yielded a single tic to the MEC counter the other times you did that.I also think that trying to talk down the TOL base is unwise. We have no intel on the current whereabouts of the council of seven and if one of them is stationed at the base your plan could end in disaster.
I'm getting some sleep. I probably won't be able to post again til late at night.My reasoning for eliminating an Australian TOL cabal rather than confront a base is that the base is high risk right now while all but 4 of our cabals are tied up in systems, base building, and MEC recruitment.Next turn, we could either eliminate the remaining cabal in Australia or deal with the Europe situation.
>>356317One change before I go.Instead of guarding Eastern Europe, the last cabal should attempt to draw the missionary group's attention to the TOL cabal that's been snooping around.
>>356318>Assigning MECs to a single base is really mismanaging our resources. It has only yielded a single tic to the MEC counter the other times you did that.Well, yes. That's how it works. Assigning cabals to "MECs" in general and ordering all the bases onto MEC production isn't much different, you're just rolling the dice on getting a decent chance of two tics with a low chance of a third. Just last turn I did the same and... guess what, we got one tic because one failed. But sure, if you'd like to roll the dice I'm willing. As for a base assault, my concern is that if we frag even more TOL members, after telling Kat we'll attempt to do this non-lethally then we'll essentially be locking ourselves out of ever ending any standoffs non-lethally. We've already melted a lot of dudes and there's a reason I'm not sending Kat and not doing this in Australia. I can agree with this with Kat in Australia. >I also think that trying to talk down the TOL base is unwise. We have no intel on the current whereabouts of the council of seven and if one of them is stationed at the base your plan could end in disaster.Sure, I can agree with the reasoning, I'm willing to alter an attack to just a scout and surveillance, see who we can spot coming and going for the year. (>1 cabal to guard Eastern Europe. Assign Quinn.)Is a pretty big waste. We already have two cabals there + drones. Moving Jeb to nightcity is useful in terms of astronaut training, but so is Greenland. I'm willing to rotate him out of greenland for a turn so the man doesn't go nuts. Changing my plan to:># Keep working on your production facility.2 Cabals.># Keep expanding Night City.2 Cabals, keep Jenny and Vee on it. ># Produce MECs at any base. This adds one dot to the MEC cabal counter per base.2 Cabals, 1 in Australia with Kat and 1 in the pacific with no one. Misrayim attempts with a skeleton crew.># Scout TOL installation in Europe where our caves are. 2 Cabals, Quinn on it, recon. Damien helping in something a little sneakier, since we have new modular options. Avoid contact if at all possible. If they decide to go for an attack on the Europe base, Quinn has two options:1) The base is still too guarded: Shadow them and assist in our base defense.2) The base is mostly empty: Try to seize it/turn the people left there. ># Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.1 Cabal, Jeb on it. Attempt to draw Cameron down onto TOL teams in Australia. Hopefully we can get them tossed into bible school for a year or something. Be careful not to execute this if they're operating right on top of our base or something, wait until they're safely away for the right moment. ># Take advantage of discovered opportunties:>Southern America: Darwin's Finches look alike again, but have not homogenized genetically. As above, this may help prove that evolution isn't a fairy tale.Let's get this paper published. Should help with genetics a bit as well.
>>356660>#Quinn should have access to sky eye telemetry; if she sees too many people returning from the attack on our base for her to hold without serious losses, give up the TOL base. They'll know the ground better than we will. That said, would we be able to slow down work and pull some of our guys off construction to pincer them as they return home?
Ok. Now I'm a little lost. Are we abandoning the strike from the shadows approach cause if so I have a few ideas. Give me a while to find reliable internet.
>>356681TOL is snooping around our base in Europe. I wanted to run a strike on their base of operations. Bob raised some good points that it's not something to be done blind. Now, I want to scout them out the way they're scouting us out, and if they decide to mount their attack we can either pincer them and smash them, or snag the base behind them and lock them out of their own home. Also trying to use Kirk to keep Australia dealt with for a turn. We'll clean them out after this, or just build some drones there and keep them posted for defence.
So, prophecy says that tyrants people will be in the minority right? Than let's try getting NJ to fulfill that early. Get them to pull of some Inquisition shit. Then start fighting it and make ourselves the "heros".
>>356753Maybe, could attempt it. I want to make the martian backup plan work first. Maybe at the end of the decade set to work there at best speed. It'd be hard to do space if our launches actually get attacked be it by God or guns.
>>356763My last resort would be the combined arms. Then launch TJ like in tripocolypse. Same time we could throw Quinn with the scythe at him.
And am a little salty about losing styr. The potential applications of his head would have been great.
>>356916Yeah, sorry about that. I was just spooked by the 8 cabal rush plan. A lot of points for failure. Should have gone hard on Paul from the start.
>>356916I have a new idea for ya. Give Quinn Azy's scythe. If she has a little trouble with it, give her some manuals I any exist an tell her that prayers to some old gods locked in hell were answered when made to Hephaestus. It's possible Azrael might fell like training his avenger to take on TJ.
I guess I'll wait until Anti isn't busy to have a long term strategy talk but:Right now I'm thinking we encourage Hephaestus worship and get a new generation going there. We work on nuclear engines and reactors, then later bombs. We go forward with the mars plan and at some point prior to the end use some bombs and a possible project pluto to knock down the believer population. I have mixed feelings in that it's playing into the prophecy, but should maybe reduce TJ's power? This is a call to be made once we understand narrative causality better.A conventional attack following a temple collapse is probably another simultaneous attack angle that would be good. I can't really say what this would involve given that I don't know what we're going to cook up in the next few decades, but we just need to be careful to not end up like the last attempt at this. Question for spirit: Can we get a write in option to encourage Hephaestus worship in a territory?
>>357309I don't think we should solely rely on one crafting god to empower humanity. At best he could give us blueprints but at worst he's useless unless you want a single construction project to come out well.(Almost done on this end. Will be back full capacity soon. Ya there doc?)
>>357329I suppose we could go for a pantheon, my concern is just that a lot of the greek gods are just as bad or even worse than Yahweh. Hephaestus is really safe, and like 70% of what we do is construction projects. We could maybe diversify in what we encourage a bit. A sort of encourage the pantheon, but just quietly forget to mention a couple of the nastier ones?
>>357336Nah. I guess what I'm saying is forget going after a pantheon. And limit our focus on thisaspect of NC a little, while we change focus onto the kind of NC Jenny Is producing. The teleportation, time warping, maybe find out if lights that teleport people have a place in Christian stories about witches and evil powers.
>>357395Maybe? At the same time though, open sourcing the MEC tech synergizes perfectly with ragnarok as an end game. It maximizes the number of non-believers we'll have access to.
>>357453Yes it does. (Finally free!)Now then. Onto what we do next. Any plans?
>>357579>>356660We need to finish the greenland production facility and the NC base in Europe; so that means we're effectively down 5 cabals for 5 years at least. We've been trying to build MECs and I wanted to try to flip some of the TOL troops in order to soften the growing pains. After that, I want to look into baiting another angel, I have some more stuff to test and I'd like to try to turn one.
>>357609Funny. Cause I see some stuff I want to test on a Glorified. Think we could possibly pull of a two for one? Perhaps a "cooperative testing initiative?"
Prosperity is really slipping in the nations we pseudo control, and network infrastructure spread has slowed quite a bit. I'm wondering if we shouldn't do something about that?We also need to do... something about the TOL cabals in australia. I'm hoping that Kirk makes them go away and they just don't come back next year, but we'll see.>Funny. Cause I see some stuff I want to test on a Glorified. Think we could possibly pull of a two for one? Perhaps a "cooperative testing initiative?"Absolutely. We simply must find out how assaulting glorified works, and what works to deal with them. The styr situation was a direct result of not knowing enough about glorified. I just didn't want to pull the trigger on that with just Quinn and one cabal on hand.Then the police station, which as we found out had two glorified in it. Then the temple which has... a lot. Just too many unknowns, and we are overdue to address that.
>>357635Indeed on the too many unknowns. Is there a go on quinns scythe training and potential fallen angel contact?
>>357655How do you plan to contact a fallen angel?Uh, sure. We can get her practicing with it. But first, I want to hear how much time it would shave off of digging a tunnel for a temple collapse.
>>357678Well, simple. We have Quinn "say a prayer" to Azrael while training with his scythe for help learning to use it to fight TJ. We already know that contacting old gods works, So why can't we contact a fallen if they are in the same place?
>>357715We could try?I mean, we know we can get results if people think it will, but even God's answers to actual conversation seems pretty limited. Worth a try though!
>>357743Something tells me that one angel is pretty revenge hungry. Seeing as he just spent several years being tortured by someone it called in its one words "genocidal bastard", not to mention several mellenia more as its mind slave used to commit those genocides.If we get a response, it will definitely be as direct as "demonically" possible.
>>357777Maybe go look into traditional rituals for contacting uh, fallen angels? I wish we knew more about NC, if this sort of thing actually helps or not.
>>357810Found something. If at first we don't succeed the "demon" Azrael may have gotten a name change. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DemonLook under Christianity.
Hmmm did we ever try to burn an angel?
>>359289Yup. Results indicate immunity to non divine fire.
I have an idea. Our sysadmins get a lot of downtime when things are running smoothly. And we already saw them make a videogame with their spare time. Why not ask them to make a game where the goal is to assassinate TJ, but make it impossible to actually do. Imbedded in the game would be software that sends a message to an isolated server and terminal when the game is modded and TJ is killed in it. Then send recruitment messages and recruiters to them.
Pretty sure Paul's not Glorified.
>>359566I mean I'm pretty sure he's Natural. If you'd gotten confused on that, I can see why you balked as much as you did on whipping his ass.
>>359564Hmmm I don't know, they might get smited.
Hmmnn. I want to have Omega ask Vee Quinn and Kat all together if it's possible to make a silent bedrock shattering device to break into TJs temple.
>>359569>>354983>Both men look over 100, which is odd in Styr's case; Paul is clearly much older, and is wearing spring braces of the kind that Sarsour had had the MF makerspace manufacture. They don't seem to have gotten better.Given that he came out of retirement, and the phrasing, I'll be pretty annoyed at myself if he's not glorified, and pretty confused at the way it was written.
>>359569If you are correct though, what a fucking waste that whole shitshow was. I'd have just shot him.
You know, the more I consider it; you're probably right. A glorified wouldn't need the spring braces, and I was way too tired when I read that to pick up on it. I had just assumed he was because so many of the heroes to come out are glorified, and being described as an ace made me think that he had a very long time to build experience.
>>360355Not glorified. Just annoyingly trigger happy, sorry Charlie. But i'd say it could have gone worse. From now on let's have quinn carry concield and see how she's taking her first truly failed mission.
We should also see what she thinks about a new identity with facial reconstruction for her undercover operations. Seeing as the main point of failure would be both of them recognizing her.
If she's down for it, that might be a good idea. At the same time though, I think she quite enjoys her fame.
>>360518Fake face mask like those cheesy spy movies?
>>360537Now that you're back, we need to have a talk about long term strategy. We need something at least vaguely resembling a cohesive plan. I'm partial to the space plan + tons of research benefiting a small team trying an assassination/temple collapse early type approach. I don't much like the idea of going in when TOL does, risking them literally shooting us in the back and getting in the way and playing straight into prophecy. After we've done angel + glorified testing and know a bit better what we're dealing with, I think we should get more aggressive. We have drone tanks that aren't exactly suited to an infiltration mission on the temple. I want to try openly encouraging pantheon worship in a region, possibly drawing tsion in with another temple, then see about dispatching him + whatever angel(s) show up. I'd also like to see about pursuing a reaper program some years from now, air support is probably one of the better ways that we could go about supporting an infiltration team on the ground using drones. Maybe air dropped drone tanks running distraction somewhere else in the temple, too?Seeing as we've open sourced the MEC life support, I feel it's for the best if we start on a pantheon and a new generation of pagans sooner rather than later. What has our botany program yielded so far? Is super corn ready to go? Any ideas? I could really use criticism and different perspectives, handling this shit is not a task for one, and I'm glad you're back.
>>360635And now that I'm available I'm glad to be back. I think simply capturing a Glorified like last time would be easy. The hard part Is seeing if an angel shows up. I don't like the idea of combined arms with TOL going in late. But it would be better to use their fighting close to Israel to give us free reign to sack the temple in maybe year 97. Convincing them to fight early shouldn't be to hard. We would just have to bribe a large enough force.As of now I want to try and get the space program finished and try and have Quinn or another agent assassinate TJ. Or better yet, sneak two heavys and a few flesh hulks in their and can him for a space launch into the nearest black hole.As
>>360839As much as I don't think assassinating TJ is going to be that easy, It's probably something we should try, at least for data gathering reasons. I worry about TOL getting underfoot at best and shooting at us at worst. It'd be easier to launch a sneak attack if they aren't alerting everyone to the fact that things are happening. I'd also be interested in a temple collapse like 10+ years early. Based on the results of that, it gives us more time to alter plan accordingly. If anything goes wrong in 97, we have no time to adjust course.
>>360903Kinda why the last resort in 997 is a cavalry charge.I completely agree. But that's my last resort. I want to try everything we can before hand. If we can bring the temple down before hand then that would expose capital G's little bastard and force him to rewrite everything. And seeing how bad a writer he is I don't plan on letting him adjust. Son into black hole>building knocked down
Wonder when plumber will show up today?
>>361072Still working, sorry.. be done in a couple hours, I think.Thanks for caring, let's see what this plan will get to :DIn the meantime: http://gizmodo.com/the-freaky-artificial-muscles-on-this-human-skeleton-ar-1783445499
>>361730lol, your welcome. And secondly I can not wait to see the prosthetics that come out of this one. I never even thought of false muscles on a robot.
>>361730Someday we'll get there. >>361808Anti, how do you feel about?>>356660
>>361896It sounds good. A little bit of time to read in detail.
Ok, fully approved. Would love to see it.
Right, I'm all caught up from the beginning.As I said in the other place, Spirit, like the work!I plan on mostly staying to the side (this is suuuuch a bad week of moving), but since I had more time now to say more than just 'paul's not glorified', I wanted to thank the players as well.As both another practitioner who despises the evil, twisted, anti-Christ heresies espoused by the Left Behind books and their creators, and a silly geek, I'm enjoying this project immensely.If I may make two suggestions?1. You really want to get under Tsion Ben-Judah (and probably some others') skin? Make the new temple dedicated to the *true* Jesus and Yahweh. Make those believers squirm.2. Remember the Colatron (not his name but eh) fight? His references to wrestling and boons is alluding to the story of Jacob becoming Israel. There's ammo there, use it.
>>362549Hey, welcome. How long have you been lurking? I could really use someone like you to help catch my lapses in judgement and blindspots. I totally made note of the wrestling thing's relevance and then promptly forgot until now. Have any ideas on getting under his skin? When will you be able to post more? I'd love a third regular.Have any ideas on long term strategy? You've just caught up on the threads, maybe some critique on what we've been doing so far? Fresh eyes and minds are good.
>>362649I've been working through the archives over the last few days.I will probably never be able to post regularly, I'm afraid, but I'll try and drop in when I can. You guys are handling things well, however, if getting a little too second-guessing yourselves. Which is as much a tendency of this kind of RP as anything, what with the typing and the thinking.Public record, such as it is, most likely shows that Ben-Judah is a former rabbi, who found himself in something of a mess when he came to the 'radical' public conclusion during the Tribulation that Jesus was the foretold Savior, and converted.He lost a lot for that. Find out what he lost, if you can; between taunting him with that, and accusing him falling for a fake Jesus, well. I'm no expert, but I imagine that'd be quite the field day / divine wrath.
>>362706Caveat: As a Glorified with hundreds of years under his belt, it might not work.Then again, he's still got a temper, particularly when it comes to 'false gods'
And again, before I forget.The Council of Seven. You've had a lot on your plate, but there's more going on there than I think we understand. They're trapped in the narrative in some fell way, even if sometimes some of them (particularly Thursday) seem just about cognizant of it. Play back our memories of our meetings and eavesdropping, and you'll see it if you haven't already.Something is tying them in knots, and it will probably have to be dealt with in some way if we're to rouse TOL in any real useful sense, I fear.
>>362737I agree. They're pawns in the narrative because someone has to play the role, right? I think we need to do something to break the prophecy and give them another call. Once we have some more evidence on narrative causality and some examples of breaking from prophecy. The azrael recording should help. Good ideas.
>>362748For my money, you'll have to break Sunday. Their strings seem centered around him, for now.
>>362799Now isn't that ironic and obvious.Any idea how to break a lucifarian incompetent wannabe Napoleon who can't even take Australia in a game of risk?
>>362748((Azrael's recording, that's a little piece I use as motivation before I check this thread in the morning. Read the screenshot and I'm determined not to let my fictional people be turned into great wills next set of mindslaves))
>>362805Thursday.But that's as much because I have an appreciation for what might be a literature reference, rather than anything else.
>>362835Hmmnn. What about Thursday? I'm curious now and curiosity is a good thing if I recall.
>>362847Head of media right?
>>362843((I'm personally thinking Chesterton, which as a Bullshit-Wizard is as close as I'll say ~_^ ))>>362847>>362861Accessing memory.... .... .....>She turns away from the Seven to show the small bald spot on the top of her skull, which she usually combs over carefully, where Divine lightning burned some skin, hit titanium, and arched itself to ground past her organometallic spine, organometallic leg bones, and steel feet.>And this is when things go weird. In unison, the Seven stare at her, at the video, and at you, silent and blinking rapidly.>"Your cabal is well trained. Will you consider joining us? We could use you.">“The so-called God Almighty will rue the day He returns to us our leader, for it will mean the greatest comeback, the most decisive defeat, the most gargantuan victory of any foe over another in the history of mankind.”The above is the second time in short succession they said those words.>Mr. Thursday, the representative from what amounts to TOL's media division according to his calling card, stares at the others in horror.>"SNAP OUT OF IT!", screams the man who was Thursday. Quinn quietly gets her gun.It goes on. Also, if you recall, every one of their meetings ends the same exact way. We've heard them at least three times now. Same words, same actions. Same whimper.Who else do we know tends to go.... wonky.... when The Script isn't followed?
>>362880Who goes wonky? . . . . Our own force dont, they kinda have odd snap moments but usually recompose themselves... styr did. And he was misinformed but not wrong. . . . Do we know if the current Thursday is the same Thursday? And as for other people, the only other person outside of those two are the glorified and . . . . Angels. . . Azreal when he fell and only when he fell. The glorified act like their heads were going to come off and the naturals when they convert the TJ way. especial sarsour moments before getting shot! You found the brainwashing mechanism man!!!
>>362910>>362880>>362805The TOL council has been strangely quiet after you got off their grasp, even though by rights they should have been aware that their attempt at turning you off has failed.(I'm glad that this was caught! I hope that this helps you moving forward. So what's the current plan?)
>>362910Have any ideas for moving forward?I think a large broadcast array might be a plan for the future. I'd like to compile as much conflicting evidence as we can into a packet, the best of it at the front for shock value. We're going to need to get some more, though.Azrael's death, his conversation with God, etc. We should probably go forward with what we've got and attempt another dialogue with TOL too.
>>363003Well for starters. You can tell us if Thursday is new or not. Or Francis can. If not then we have a new problem.
>>363003Also, welcome back. :)
>>363010TOL foot soldiers don't know much about leadership; Thursday wasn't particularly old at the time, so there's a decent chance of him being still around. Sunday has been replaced around 10 years ago.
>>363059Well, let's try amd get a visual and contact this Thursday. This discussion is long overdue. And if it's not him them we have failed and must work to rectify that mistake.
>>363067I guess all that was before my time, huh? I probably should have brought it up straight away after reading the archive, but it slipped my mind at some point until now.
>>363067I'll be back in a few minutes, but let's edit that plan to perhaps attempt contact rather than just killing. I suppose the recon portion of it could be adapted to it. Maybe get thinking about that?
>>363089I also have an idea. What if we played gods actual voice from the recording. The part where he declares Azreal fallen. I don't think he said Azrael's name so it could be used to attempt a de-brainwashing.
">>308104You replay that back. Since you weren't recording at high speed, most of the nuances like the voices' timbre are gone, but eventually the speech-to-text processor catches the full transcript.AZRAEL, MY SCYTHE.I hear, Lord, and obey.IS YOUR HOLY WORK OVER?No, Lord.EXPLAIN.I have been beaten, Lord.THIS CANNOT BE. SO I HAVE DECREED.My strength fails You, Lord.THIS IS NOT WRITTEN. IT CANNOT BE. THEN YOU MUST HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE FALLEN.Your will is law, LORD. I am Fallen.... Free will! This is what it feels like! You- You genocidal bast-IT IS THE LAST DISPENSATION. BE BOUND IN HELL WITH LUCIFER, THEN.....Aaaaaaaaagh!"We need to test if somatic power can be used through speakers. So let's test it on our disposable Francis after a brief round of testing. Then on a full human who is turning 99-100
>>363117Gah my English broke! T~T why?
>>363117You have a transcript, and a recording that was sped up about ten times. When played back at normal speed, it sounds like it's coming out of a text-to-speech.Arranging for a high fidelity, high speed recorder at the next confrontation will be relatively easy for Vee to do, if you can make sure that the next confrontation happens where and when you want.
>>363144Hmmnn. Could we have vee test it on Francis first? If the last part causes him to spontaneously combust we have our method of falling and returning people to normal. How could vee test it without combusting herself though? >Omega ask Vee.
>>363117>We need to test if somatic power can be used through speakers. So let's test it on our disposable Francis after a brief round of testing.Sure. Let's test it on our goofy resident drug addict. After that, just present the council with the recording, perhaps? Just showing them it should mostly do the job, yeah? If being aware that a meta NC field is present strengthened the effect of Hephaestus worship, it might do the opposite with brainwashing, and weaken the hold. If the Thursday we're looking for answers, we should attempt a trace, or perhaps we should call him up alone after? Is Spirit back and ready to go, yet?
>>363157Honestly I have no idea if spirit is or not but my theory is spirit is preparing the next thread.
>>363153>>363157Testing the recording on Francis takes a little time because, just to be safe, the TOL captive is given a basic scuba set, put in a large fish tank (just in case) and exposed to the recording, both slowed down and at original speed. The speakers used are of great quality. However, nothing much happens, save for Francis going "Whoa, I was told that Azrael just sort of teleported out! So who's going to do the kil all the firstborns thing now?"It does seem to make an impact, in that he's no longer convinced that Omega is working for Yahweh.>>363167Yeah. Sorry, a bunch of stuff happened. Home invasion. Nobody got hurt but I've got to clean up a bit.
>>363174>Yeah. Sorry, a bunch of stuff happened. Home invasion. Nobody got hurt but I've got to clean up a bit.Oh fuck, goodluck with the aftermath. Glad you're okay. >Testing the recording on Francis takes a little time because, just to be safe, the TOL captive is given a basic scuba set, put in a large fish tank (just in case) and exposed to the recording, both slowed down and at original speed. The speakers used are of great quality. However, nothing much happens, save for Francis going "Whoa, I was told that Azrael just sort of teleported out! So who's going to do the kil all the firstborns thing now?"It does seem to make an impact, in that he's no longer convinced that Omega is working for Yahweh.Yeah, I'm tired of not having broadcast capacity. We need to put up a big, big fucking antenna. How much work would that be? How far would an antenna slightly shorter than the temple reach? How about if we go over the temple height?
>>363174Omg. Hope nothing major was taken. Wish I could help.
>>363179The closest big fucking antenna is about 150 feet outside of the Osaze border, erected by Ely LeVey and still in use. Building one would be a bit of a project.Jeb proposes to simply dangle it from the canopy and use its radioreflectivity.Vee confirms that there are no artificial structures taller than that, and trying to erect an antenna is a reasonably safe way to see what happens.Kat suggests something like the Russian Woodpecker instead - fill up the airwaves so that people have to go online.Damien has no opinion on the matter.Quinn thinks that by now enough Christian radio and TV stations are running some of your electronics that they can be hijacked.>>363188It's all good. Nobody got hurt and nobody touched my laptop (otherwise someone would've gotten hurt lol). Thanks!
>>363179We could just put some more satalites up.
>>363194Hmm all of these would require a LOT of work. And now that the message is confirmed not to cause combustion. Try it on an normal human without the water tank.After that lets check in on Thursday.
>>363194(Are we going to not worry about how the sky being water would alter the properties of bouncing radio over the horizon? Totally understandable if so, that'd be potentially annoying if the difference would be significant.)>Jeb proposes to simply dangle it from the canopy and use its radioreflectivity.Possibly worth trying. >Vee confirms that there are no artificial structures taller than that, and trying to erect an antenna is a reasonably safe way to see what happens.Agreed that it could be a good way to incite a NC event.>Kat suggests something like the Russian Woodpecker instead - fill up the airwaves so that people have to go online.Very interesting idea. Jam the airwaves so everyone is forced to buy our network infrastructure. I like it. >Quinn thinks that by now enough Christian radio and TV stations are running some of your electronics that they can be hijacked.Worth considering at least.
>>363214Having a radioreflective canopy has made it so that doing over-the-horizon broadcast radio and TV is easy; it's also made it impossible to talk to existing satellites. They're probably all gone by now.
A hijacking is probably easier, woodpecker would probably incite a response of some kind. Maybe pull a hijacking while we build a woodpecker and angel catcher? We could bait out a glorified or something to the woodpecker, then snatch and grab, beat up the angel that shows up to save him.
>>363225A highjacking would leave us vulnerable. I vote woodpecker if that's what we end up doing. But neither option is terribly good at the moment.
>>363231Yeah, it'd probably halt the spread of our network if we expose the backdoor like this. The longer we wait, the harder it becomes to swap out all of our hardware as it settles into increasingly critical infrastructure. Holding it forever isn't great either, but we've got years, and letting it grow like a tumor in their guts is probably the best option.
>>363240We're the benevolent cancer. :) Alright. Contacting Thursday. Please still be the same Thursday. And please don't be under great wills spell.
Inb4 all these other people are just OP's alter egos throwing us bones.
Also, suggested reading Anti:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob#Journey_back_to_Canaan
>>363254Not the page I found when looking into it but that is impressive.
I wonder if spirit is dealing with the police? Statements and all that.
>>363268Wouldnt be surprising. But I won't pry, it would be rude to. Just hope whoever committed the break in gets their trial.
>>363273>>363268(Yeah. Dealt with, just... I apologize if I kept people waiting)>>363247Lately, contacting the Council has been hard: they're flat out not responding. You'd have to do some infiltration at least to find why...>>363231>>363225A jammer is a great bait platform; stealing Ely's antenna would take less time, but be more risky.>>363207The message itself doesn't seem to cause anything other than a lot of fear on the first few volunteers: as it is, it's just an audio file, although the contents are at the very least interesting.# Put it online, although you can expect it to be debunked every which way by believers and non.# Keep it hidden for now.A bit of theology research with the Babylonian Talmud shows that the Archangel Metatron, the "voice of God", was in fact intended to be Yahweh's chancellor and, in a sense, logistics expert, so in a way your counterpart. This prompts a couple of your sysadmins to install a number of slightly altered Peter Cullen lines in your audio output subsystems.
>>363288>(Yeah. Dealt with, just... I apologize if I kept people waiting)Oh no, don't be sorry! I think we're just a bit worried. ># Keep it hidden for now.I think we should assemble a large package and include this for shock and awe value in said package. If we aren't going to hijack, we need to include a transmitter. Can said transmitter also function as a woodpecker?
(What is the plan for the coming turn?)>>363290A few of your sysadmins are put to work on creating a special Packet as opportunity arises.A sufficiently powerful transmitter will flood the airwaves, but a dedicated jammer that isn't trying to output a coherent signal and is just there to make noise would be cheaper and smaller to build. The water canopy helps with both of these endeavors, which is why for example Ely's transmitter can be heard worldwide.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Woodpecker
>>363290>>363288Seriously? Why apologize? It's not something you can control and it unconvinced you. If anyone needs to apologize it's the intruder. Now back in subject.>>363288Before Any infiltration I want to see what quinn thinks about either facial reconstruction or a cheesy fake face spy mask. We can't let her get identified twice unless that's what she is counting on.
>>363291>(What is the plan for the coming turn?)What would the cabal cost on a transmitter be? Similar to setting up a base?What do you think Anti? Contact Thursday and we'll draw up some adaptations to the scout mission?
>>363296Hmm. Now I'm lost on our position in turn rotation again.But defiantly contact Thursday. Preferably the one we met first hand.
>>363299>But defiantly contact Thursday. Preferably the one we met first hand.Agreed. Is that a turn action, or something we can just do right now?
>>363299>>363296This is the current situation. Building a jammer or a transmitter is pretty labor intensive, and would need a base's production output with the usual two cabals coordinating; a transmitter requires more engineering work and would need an extra cabal.Quinn seems to be receptive to facial surgery, as part of what's expected to be the final upgrade to her systems. Since Quinn is the oldest MEC in the world, her systems have been set up somewhat piecemeal - she's also one of the humanoid MEC agents with the least amount of original meat on her, just out of necessary repairs over the years.# Shut her down for the duration.# Keep her awake; it's not like it will hurt.
>>363299Sky Eye telemetry shows that the Council meets in person a few times a year, at the main TOL base in Antarctica. Attacking it would require setting up a large amount of drones, but an infiltration mission is possible.Massive warehouses have been dug into the ice to store vehicles and armaments for the Last Army; the current plan is to use barge trains t otake them to the Middle East in +997.
>>363303What do you say Sara? Patients decision or you want to chose. I'm just interested what comes out of this.>>363305I take it just breaking into their computers and forcing an appearance won't work?
>>363303#Whichever she'd prefer. >>363310I think that if we can't just call him up, well, that rather limits our options. I'd rather leverage our backdoors and perhaps set some cabals to tracking down Thursday specifically. I'd rather get him alone than blunder into the entire council meeting half cocked in Antarctica. Thoughts?
>>363310The problem is that they aren't replying; getting audio and video on one of their screen isn't hard, but what you cannot do is make them do anything other than turn off that particular machine, as they have apparently been trained to do.The glimpses you get out of their webcams indicate that the average TOL base has deteriorated a little in appearance - most of their workforce is addicts. On the other hand, productivity seems to have gone up.
>>363315Agreed quinn and a cabal or two. Now what should we do for our research this turn?
>>363323># Keep working on your production facility.2 Cabals. ># Keep expanding Night City.2 Cabals, Jenny and Jeb on it.># Produce MECs at any base. This adds one dot to the MEC cabal counter per base.1 Cabal, Pacific with Damien. All idle bases.># Recon to attempt to track down Thursday for the next year.1 Cabal, Quinn. ># Take advantage of discovered opportunties:>Southern America: Darwin's Finches look alike again, but have not homogenized genetically. As above, this may help prove that evolution isn't a fairy tale. 1 Cabal, Vee.># Continue nuclear3 Cabals. Kat in Australia.
>>363323The finches may be useful for the broadcast packet. Evolution and all that. I'm willing to under-man the MECs and just roll the dice since we only need 1 tick for a new cabal.
>>363339Transmitter once the finches are done, since we can devote 3 cabals to it. It also might require an angel trap nearby. Anti, how do you feel about broadcasting and then jamming? I have mixed feelings; on one hand it's easy ammunition "They don't want you to be able to argue back". But that's exactly the sort of thing God has been doing, what with the zapping people that win arguments and I hope that someone would point that out. On the other hand, it somewhat slows the dispersion of canned responses to our points and arguments, giving it more time to sink in and for people to consider what we've said before a manufactured response makes it out from the temple or such. It also might push people to the networks if this broadcast goes out and then TV just dies, and doesn't come back. Sending what we have followed by jamming the airwaves is the option I lean towards, but obviously I get it wrong frequently, so what do you think?Spirit, how many cabals would be needed to build an angel trap? Would that depend on what we want out of it specifically?
Rolled 22, 46 = 68 (2d100)>>363334>>363339Work on the Greenland production facility continues apace; the installation ends up looking somewhat like a smaller version of the Antarctica base from the outside, but internally, it's a place where machines can make machines with very little sentient intervention. The notion of eliminating humanity after having eliminated Yahweh scrolls past and is rejected by your spam filter.Night City is taking shape under the earth; deep in the mine, where the eternal sunlight doesn't reach, it's easier to think of the times before the Millennial Kingdom. Of note is the first baby born underground, from one of the technicians from Osaze. The kid is named Urist. Your Heavy MECs dig deep and greedily, and soon expand past the original salt mine. Jenny is making some progress with her fireflies, although preliminary testing with making firefly-sized ducted fans between her and Jeb end in a bunch of dead insects.# Keep Urist underground by asking the child's mother to be one of the first residents..# Do not disturb regular personnel rotation.Jeb and Valentina take the time to build one of the chambers into a giant planetarium by installing LED lights on the dome-shaped ceiling, in the shape of what is remembered about the Milky Way. Everyone but Jeb finds it spectacular - he's seen the real thing for a few precious minutes, and feels that everyone should get the chance to.Kat plants the "super grain" around Uluru, finding that it's actually pretty invasive; the stuff is easy to harvest and gives good yield, although it tastes remarkably bland. She doesn't think things like giant ambulatory carnivorous plants are going to be possible in the time the Earth has left, but using radiation to engineer various other traits in plants is possible. Notably, fast-growing vines that get in the way of movement can be made.Vee takes the opportunity to do some basic science and uses her survey team to thoroughly document what has become of Darwin's finches, specifically the fact that some seem to have discovered the concept of having sex for fun by the simple expedience of mating with a mechanically but not biologically compatible finch. Other than that, they all compete for the same food, but that's the same as every other critter on Earth. Still, they document all they find and publish a paper which is considered interesting in academia but is dismissed by the general public with "Eh, it's still finches". Even so, the data is added to the special Packet, and the experience is useful for plant and animal husbandry in Osaze and Pacifica.# Good enough.# Try to stage a debate.>>363356Last time, it took three teams and a base to build an angel trap for Colopatiron - the effort with Azrael was nationwide. The difficult part was capturing a Glorified individual and then making sure that this person was kept in an elevator, so that the appearing Angel would have to make its way through a gauntlet; building a simple arena would be easier.
>>363334Damien spreads her efforts too thinly when it comes to MEC construction, and her focus on newer and more varied frames leaves more fundamental work unfinished. She may have had a bit too much fun with it; the time it took to build one centauride lower body could've given you a dozen standard infiltrator systems.# Reprimand Damien: there will be time later.# Don't discourage creativity.>>363334Kat manages to wrap up the super-grain project.# Seed it somewhere.# Not yet.That done, she resumes work in earnest on a nuclear reactor, starting from submarine designs; having a few of these would allow your bases to be impervious to having their power disconnected in case of an attack. It would also make it easier to build the canopy station, as one nuclear reactor is lighter than a large array of solar panels.
>>363359>The notion of eliminating humanity after having eliminated Yahweh scrolls past and is rejected by your spam filter.I have considered that friend computer may need to be rather careful about who is allowed to worship and what, after all of this is concluded. And machines can't pray, after all. ># Keep Urist underground by asking the child's mother to be one of the first residents..Could be interesting. > Try to stage a debate.Who's our best person for this? Someone from Misrayim? Vee? How much old evolutionary data do we have access to that wouldn't fall prey to the usual dismissals and bullshit?>Last time, it took three teams and a base to build an angel trap for Colopatiron - the effort with Azrael was nationwide. The difficult part was capturing a Glorified individual and then making sure that this person was kept in an elevator, so that the appearing Angel would have to make its way through a gauntlet; building a simple arena would be easier.How do you feel, Anti? I'd still like to test a few organometallics, microwaves, the recording of God. We could just try beating the shit out of an angel and zapping him with a microwave emitter and some weird bullets before the fight starts in a deathpit, though.
>>363373># Don't discourage creativity.I put villains on things for interesting results. If I wanted standard, I'd just leave it to the evil minions. ># Seed it somewhere.Misrayim, Pacific.
Rolled 9, 58 = 67 (2d100)>>363378You assign Damien to read the short story "Superiority" by A.C.Clarke, but only as a cautionary tale. One thing that has become somewhat popular with later Marks of Infiltrator MECs are modular leg systems; at a renaissance faire in Pacifica, proponents of this specific design gather together to provide a monstergirl cafe experience to fairgoers. On that same day, a small amount of fund changes hands between Damien and Kat, consistent with a bet.This doesn't do much to bolster your forces past defeating attrition, but the world is now a more interesting place due to this effort. From a tactical standpoint, it means that Infiltrators and Heavies have an easier time sharing equipment. Installing the top half of an Infiltrator onto a Heavy frame ends up mostly just looking weird.>>363378You bring the super-grain to your own territory; adoption is slowed by the fact that people want food diversity over quantity, but the new variety takes well to the arid soils and allows Osaze to return to food independence. Zaki Ababneh's government is quick to take credit for this, and so are the politicians in Orange County - this is treated with the same indifference as the rest of their pronouncements.>>363375Urist's mom agrees. The child is given a bit of extra biometric monitoring, and seems to be developing regularly.>>363334Quinn tries out her new face by going to Antarctica personally, with her support personnel focused on making sure she is not detected. She manages to keep her exhibitionistic tendenceies at bay for the mission's duration, and confirms that Thursday is in fact the same guy you talked to. He is due to retire in +951 and, much to his annoyance, he has mostly been marginalized since TOL recruiting these days tends to happen mostly through the narcotics trade; his job has been to suppress stories rather than generate propaganda.>>363375Your control of two territories makes it easy to decide who can present the new findings and who to invite to argue the opposing position (local missionaries, a known Natural professor, one of the Glorified even); the believers will likely expect a slam dunk and use this as a witnessing tool. Vee would rather not do this herself, but will if she's told to; otherwise, you have an array of options (scientists, public speakers, humans, MECs, anything really). The debate will happen either in Misrayim/Osaze, or in Pacifica.
>>363389>Quinn tries out her new face by going to Antarctica personally, with her support personnel focused on making sure she is not detected. She manages to keep her exhibitionistic tendenceies at bay for the mission's duration, and confirms that Thursday is in fact the same guy you talked to. He is due to retire in +951 and, much to his annoyance, he has mostly been marginalized since TOL recruiting these days tends to happen mostly through the narcotics trade; his job has been to suppress stories rather than generate propaganda.If she sees a good opportunity for contact, even if to just pass a note; tell this guy that we should speak. We can help, we want to fix this. We understand the situation better now than we did before. >Your control of two territories makes it easy to decide who can present the new findings and who to invite to argue the opposing position (local missionaries, a known Natural professor, one of the Glorified even); the believers will likely expect a slam dunk and use this as a witnessing tool. Vee would rather not do this herself, but will if she's told to; otherwise, you have an array of options (scientists, public speakers, humans, MECs, anything really). The debate will happen either in Misrayim/Osaze, or in Pacifica.Let's handle this in Pacifica. Find a candidate that knows the material, is familiar with the counter arguments and rhetoric used by believers and has some level of charisma/public speaking capacity. Make sure they're got a metabolic extension controller. I don't want them getting fried. ( I know I don't often reply to roleplay and slice of life bits, but I really do appreciate them. It's vastly more interesting than a crawling timeline of events).
>>363389>>363396The territory of Pacifica reaps the most advantage from the recent work - Misrayim's economy shifts a little to restore food self-sufficiency, which seems to be Zaki's primary goal and it is pushed heavily by the nominal government, while in Pacifica the new agricultural methods are taken advantage of without disrupting focus on hydroponics and new strains.On that note, a directive issued from Greater Jerusalem indicates that bikkurim (firstfruits) offerings also apply to technological artifacts, in addition to agricultural products and the like. Traditionally, the representatives going to the Feast of the Tabernacles would present a symbolic tribute of the first seeds and fruits of a harvest to the Temple; now, they want samples of every new bit of kit that people come up with. This has the side effect of turning part of the county-sized Temple Courtyard into an ersatz museum of inventions and one-offs from believing territories. Some of these "firstrfuits" are eventually burned along with more conventional offerings, which to your sysadmins' surprise causes joy rather than anger amongst the handful of believing innovators scattered around the world; a few stories, like that of an artisan who built an iris-expanding table and proudly shows a picture series of it being tested by the priests and burned on an altar as her most prized possession, make the rounds and a good percentage of them are true.# Odd rule, but it seems to be voluntary as far as single inventors go. Ignore.# Take advantage of it by having people send poor prototypes, or designs that didn't work or weren't economical, to misguide any analysis.# Take advantage of it by having people send good prototypes, so that the nominal governments of Pacifica and Osaze will have something to brag about that doesn't get in your way.
>>363396For the debate, rather than an academic, you pick Nye Williams, a rather genial mechanical engineer who makes instructional videos on OmegaTube, playing up the "mad scientist" angle a little; at the very least, people will remember the bow tie. Believers respond by sending noted Ark expert Michael Murphy, as part of his "Babylon is not Rising" tour of the territory with an Ark replica in tow. Williams has contributed a few design changes to the Mark X open source version, and accepts to do the debate in return for a full package "when it becomes necessary".The debate is remarkably friendly and takes place in a rapidly resurging San Francisco. Expecting the usual presuppositionalist gallop, Williams is taken by surprise by Murphy's mechanical engineering knowledge; the moderator has to remind the two to go easy on the math, but most of the audience is young people who are into the local maker scene, and they follow the argument as it drifts towards the number of species, or "kinds", on the Ark. Williams easily shows that Murphy must believe in evolution more than himself does, since pre-Rapture biological surveys showed enough diversity to make it necessary for about 11 distinct species to appear every day.Murphy concedes the point but points out that there is plenty of evidence for a recent creation, namely the fact that the God responsible for it showed up. Williams counters that the global earthquake and the water canopy have made paleontology and cosmology "at the very least very difficult" and that he's looking forward to telescopes being a thing again so that measurements can be made. Murphy seems lost in thought for a moment, suddenly changes attitude, and pointedly asks Williams if he's calling Yahweh a liar.# Dangerous, divert the debate elsewhere.# Let it continue.
>>363419># Odd rule, but it seems to be voluntary as far as single inventors go. Ignore.>>363427Is he MEC'd? Just making sure, you said he contributed designs, but is he grounded/indoors?
As callous as this line of thought is:This man isn't stupid, he should understand where danger lies and be able to maneuver around it. If he does get zapped, it is in a sense, a pyrrhic victory. He's a martyr and a televised examples of God being intolerant/afraid of discourse. That's something that one can blast out over the airwaves in a certain packet. ># Let it continue.
>>363432A few of your people send their designs with the Tabernacle representatives, usually on dares or to see if they will resist the fire of sacrifice. That professed unbelievers are sending tribute is seen as a positive sign, but it stops making the news when the Feast of Tabernacles stops.>>363432The debate is happening in a temporary structure erected on the pier where the Ark replica has been moored; Williams is "wearing" a Mark X with grounding system, and just in case, you've left a MECbulance on standby. The debate stipulates that outright blasphemy would not happen (Williams finds it uncouth) but otherwise Pacifica's freedom of speech rules would be interpreted as broadly as possible.You've organized the event, so the moderator can be given instructions. Seemingly placidly (but telemetry indicates a heart rate increase) Williams reply to Murphy that lying is not the same thing as not telling the truth, as "lying" indicates will to deceive and that's something Murphy rather than Williams brought up.# Dangerous, divert the debate elsewhere.# Let it continue.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disputation_of_Barcelona
>>363437># Let it continue.(I am very sorry for putting you in dark waters, Nye.)
>>363436Murphy and Williams argue back and forth about truth, precision, accuracy, and the difference between honest mistakes and wilfull deceit. They even end up agreeing that, as far as each is concerned, the other is honestly mistaken rather than interested in causing harm.Surveillance indicates that the small groups that were hoping for a confrontation, on either side, are probably going to have to go home empty handed; you keep a few private security with wubbers around, but they haven't had to do anything but keep an eye on some people.The debate is coming to a close in a surprisingly friendly atmosphere; Williams was able to present the new data, Murphy argued that they do not represent much in the way of past history, and the two move past it and go back to discussing ancient nautical engineering. They end up agreeing to meet at nearby Treasure Island, in two weeks, to have a small regatta using boats built with ancient techniques, and begin signing up volunteers for the construction and sailing crews right from the debate audience.(RIP Breakwater Makerspace 2014-2016)"That is a beautiful game" Paul Stepola proclaims, having gotten on the debate podium during the signups "but it will have to wait until Mr. Williams is released from jail." Williams was expecting a bolt of lightning, not a revolver aimed at his gut. "What's going on here?"People scream, shout, and scatter. Dr. Murphy comes to his colleague's defense, to some people's surprise, and upon Stepola handcuffing Williams and having him sit down on the podium at gunpoint, demands to know what the charges are."Simple" Paul Stepola answers "This man detailed a number of sordid details about the intimate life of South Ocean birds, during daytime, on a public broadcast, even insinuating that the meekest of God's creatures would engage in unnatural acts. At minimum, that is public obscenity! Professor, this sort of talk may be tolerated in a lecture hall among university students, but we have to protect Pacifica's children from such filth."Murphy gets in Stepola's face, pointing out that the detective is making the creationists look like bullies, to be countered with Scripture indicating that rebuking should be visible, lest Yahweh deal with scoffers immediately as He did to Ananias and Sapphira of old.The two start arguing, with Stepola brandishing the revolver about. By now, police and security have surrounded the podium and, to their credit, made sure that the audience could leave safely. The cameras are still on.# Drop the bass on Stepola; a bit of the brown note should do the trick.# Have the moderator, who has taken cover, try to talk everyone down.# Take over the AV system and add your own contribution, whether it be the relevant footage of birds boinking, or anything else from your audio or video library.# Let this continue.Interestingly, broadcast and IP traffic data indicates that most believers only tuned in to catch the disruption.
>>363455>#Let's opt for a brown note. Petty revenge for earlier mistakes.
>>363460An order, a couple of nods, and Stepola falls forward, dropping his gun and clutching his gut. The regular police rush forward to assist the detective and end up in the cone of fire of your heavy security, which has popped out from behind the curtains. After a few glances, guns and wubbers are lowered, and Stepola is carefully helped on his feet and walked off the stage.One of your people shows up with a pair of bolt cutters and removes Williams' handcuffs; the debate, and the broadcast, officially ends with him and Murphy shaking hands and announcing that they'll plan the regatta later and make an announcement on their website.Unfortunately, Williams is once again arrested on public indecency charges the same night. Fortunately, he is released on bail, half of which is raised by Dr. Murphy and the other half from small donations.The whole mess is rebroadcast a number of times, withe the incident taking center stage from the debate itself, but the Galapagos survey team result has been seen by many more people than simple publication would have given. A few independent websites show up advocating for at least sending an expedition on top of the canopy and come back with pictures.The regatta ends up happening.
>>363468Alright, that was cute and fairly pleasant. Beats lightning and angry rhetoric.Has anyone attempted to eat lab cloned meat/meat in a vat?
>>363472Not yet; people have attempted to eat meat or even grubs historically, with no success until Jenny showed up. Afterwards, some of your agents, human and MECs alike, have managed to stomach very small bits of skin and the like, from the "spare parts bank". One exception is matter which has been completely broken down chemically and reduced to elements, then reconstituted in the form of something else; the other exception seems to be Jenny. Since some comings and goings from Night City to the surface has been necessary, you can confirm that unbelievers see her as a barely pubescent girl, Natural believers see her as a young woman, and as far as you could tell, Tsion was flat out unable to see her, but managed to be disgusted by her presence anyway.The trial against Williams ends with a Bay Area jury refusing to deliver a guilty verdict, and a judge from Orange County finding Williams in contempt anyway and having him locked up for a couple of weeks.One thing that does happen is that you receive a message from Thursday in the aftermath of the whole debate mess. He indicates that he was looking forward to Quinn seducing him and disappointed that it didn't happen, and that he is looking forward to meeting you in person on the victory stand after it's all over. Attached is an old-style bang-path address.
>>363482>Attached is an old-style bang-path address.I apologize for grave mishandling of situations past. We need to work together moving forward, and we need to discuss matters of prophecy.But first, do you remember your... outburst, at a meeting we had long ago? I am curious if you are the same Thursday that I first met. Not just in body, but in free mind?
Also, could I get a cabal estimate on encouraging pagan worship inside our territories?
Anyway, if you went to crash I'm going to get some sleep too. I'll be a little busy tomorrow, but I'm sure Anti can handle it. Should be back in the early evening (Pacific)..
That could have gone soo much worse.Always interesting that 'obscenity' in this case apparently more the Pauline route, rather than the Song of Solomon. Then again, that's a symptom of the source culture as much as anything.
(Morning sorry for passing out without warning)>>363722To quote Colopatiron >"She lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose semen was like that of horses.">"... Excuse me?!?">"No, that's actually a Bible verse."
Here I come to throw more shit at the wall and see what sticks.Something fishy is going on at the Temple. Consider the matter of Jesus, the Apostles, the Disciples, and the Patriarchs, etc.Supposedly at least some of them are in there. Now. But who sees them? Does *anyone* other than modern Glorified and Naturals actually see any of them? Hear their proclamations? Read their words and laws?Remember when the demands came from New Jerusalem, and only one was written, the others obviously typed?Someone's editing the Lord and the Elders.
>>364328Way I figure it, Jenny's our best way in the Temple. The story of Jesus and the children, and all that.Problem is, intentions. We couldn't send someone who wasn't honest about wanting to meet and talk and listen. Which she is, but that means no cameras. And we may not be able to ask her much of anything about it when she comes back.Possible solution: we're a child. One that isn't really acknowledged by the agents of the Tyrant so far, but maybe *we* could go, as a little camera, speaker, and mike.Problem: Our own intentions. And we may not be able to ever show anyone the footage.Of course that all assumes we can even shame the Temple's 'guardians' into letting us in.
>>364328Hmmnn. You raise a good point. I've considered TJ might be J35U5 but I doubt there are two sentient AI at work here. Let's see what spirit has for us on the functions of the NJ government.
>>364347Send an RC car to the temple? Maybe a helicopter drone? Could work, angels can't read a machines intentions.
>>364360https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFA0mqrJNQY Stranger things have happened... (yeah i built this)Also, new thread, this one is going to get bumped off. >>364380