>>241003

Your diplomats have made it to the Duchy of Juln.

They meet you with warm arms, already hearing of Valornia from Belvin and Lautsburg in the east and are willing to answer your questions.


What are your orders? What are your questions?

>>241003
Forgot some of the other actions in progress:

Building a Basilica in Jakoelfton - 6

Researching Police - 9

Colonizing Dye Island - 4

Special Weapon for Dark types - 6

Researching Magnetism - 14

>>241003
neat. I guess let's build some trade ships?

Remind me who the Juln are?

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>>241908

You build trade ships. It will take 3 rounds for this to be finished. It will cost 2500 KYR to build 3.

The Duchy of Juln are the Houndour on the map.

>>241970
Hmm, ask why no one really likes Belvin. I know we heard it from Belvin, but I wanna get an another opinion. Just to make sure they aren't sketchy

>>242060

(I should add this) - Current Krystal - 37,500 KYR

=----=----=

You ask the Julnian diplomats what their take on the Duchy of Belvin is. You also ask why no one likes Belvin.

They respond by noting that the Duchy is a source of great help and the strongest kingdom on the south shore despite its rather poor military strength. They also note the reason they all still exist on the southern shore still is because of Belvin and they're brilliant tactics which favor stalemates of winning and forcing the enemy to grind to a halt.

They also note that Belvin isn't the only one disliked, their ally, Lautsburg, Juln, the Duchy of Revinsburg to the north and the Kingdom of Ketz to the west. All of the kingdoms combined are equally hated although Belvin more-so for being a make-shift "leader" of the small group on the south shore.

>>242092
Try contacting the dewott nation.

>>242100

You contact the Dewott nation and they introduce themselves as the Kingdom of Saksford.

What do you wish to discuss?

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You have found one resource of salt in province 19. You may build a mine to access it.

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You have gotten in contact with the Galliem Order. What do wish to discuss?

Discuss the kingdom joining us.

>>242275
Which kingdom? Saksford or Juln?

>>242357
Which one is Satsford

>>242377
Dewotts.
>>242170
Build a mine. Discuss what benefits might come to us if we give the Belvin and the other southern kingdoms a helping hand against Zureis(?).

Ask the Dewotts about their culture and trade goods.

>>242384
You start building a salt mine in province 12, it will take 4 rounds.

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>>242275
>>242384

You open discussion with the Kingdom of Saksford about Belvin and the southern coast kingdoms. They respond by stating that while they haven't been a problem with them personally, other kingdoms like Kells and Zureis despise them and wish to annihilate them and absorb their land as well but while this is all fine to the Saksford crown, genocide isn't a great solution and would more likely anger Arceus.

When asked if there was every a war between the south and the north, would they help the southern kingdoms?

They answered that they would stay neutral and keep out of the Zureisian war path- their military is strong but has flaws.

You ask about their culture and their trade goods.

Their culture is Albaan (English) and their trade goods are Wheat, Chalk, Lumber, Corn, Potatoes, and Elemental Gems.

>>242442
What's the status of all our on going projects?

>>242442
Elemental gems? Can we see some in exchange for some coffee?

>>242449

Current projects:

Colonizing the Turtwig Island – 4
Building roads – 2
Refining guns - 10
Basilica – 2
Police – 8
Magnets – 13
Dark weapon – 4
Colonize dye island – 1
Integrate natu – 16

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The elemental gems they have are Water, Ice, Grass and Bug Gems. You offer Coffee as a trade item for the gems and they offer to give Grass and Bug Gems to you.

Do you accept?

=--=--=
((I'm a bit slow, I know but HOI4 is my new addiction))

>>242465
Make more Poisoned Skull units

>>242471

You train more Poison Skull units which will cost 2000 KYR and take 3 rounds.

===

Current KYR - 35,500

Can we ask the Duchy of Belvin to prove their good intentions with us through some sort of trade agreement? That we will be their primary supplier of one or more trade goods?

>>242465
Wait, did land filling get done? And also methods for evolving some mons? How about the crossbreeding program?
If the former is done, connect provinces 52/53 with 54. It'll take a load of soil for a nation in the 1600s, but I think we can do it.

Also, breed more Abra, and make more War Psions.

>>242658
I don't see that being worth the investment. We don't even know how deep the water is.

>>242465
>>242465
Accept

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>>242848
You accept the offer. You now have access to Grass and Bug Gems. You may use these to modify weapons to be stronger for a certain type.

>>242651
You ask the Duke to prove his good intentions through trade and he obliges.

What do wish to trade?

>>242658
>>242660
The Crossbreeding program is still being worked on, getting every combo down is a pain, I mean, look how many different species there are - http://pastebin.com/B4bgBxNn

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Evolution methods are still being researched, 12 rounds left.

Same with the land filling only 5 rounds instead.

You breed more Abra, the pop rises by 30. You also train more War Psion, which will cost 2000 KYR and take 3 rounds.

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>>242660

Speaking of water, the underwater exploration is done. They have so far found no underwater civs although they have found the ruins of one. You may start digging for artifacts, you may learn something.

Also, the water around the smaller isles is around 60 Meters deep.

=---=---=

You have colonized the island with DYES. You may name the island now.

===

Current KYR - 33,500

Ws should incorporate the natu and butterfree into us, after all they are already vassal states. Maybe also begins talks of a royal marriage with the kingdom of Baccarvi.

>>243316
We've already done both of those things. We're integrating the Natu atm and we can only integrate one vassal state at a time.

Start exploring the underwater ruins (but be wary of Kyogre). Tell the Duchy that we'll supply them with coffee and silk, assuming they have neither/we've colonized the coffee lands.

Maybe we could do the same for sandshrew? After all they are tiny in comparison to us. We should send diplomats to them and the Pachirisu. They have much to gain from joining us.

>>243324
You start exploring the underwater ruins. It will take 5 rounds to have an effect.

You tell Belvin that you will supply Coffee and Silk to them.

In return for this, the Duke offers to build 10 Light Ships.

Do you accept? Remember, you may always negotiate.

>>243823
Ask him what his trade goods are before we accept.

>>243970

The only trade good Belvin has is Lumber.

>>243823
Do we want ships? I mean I guess it would be cool to have a big fleet.

>>244265
For transporting resources and people, it would definitely be a huge boon, remember we're trying to colonize the southeastern continent too.

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>>244348

Remember that when the exploration to map the coast went on, the crew were stopped both ways by ships flying flags they have no clue of.

There may be something there but not entirely.

>>244415
did we ever send diplomats? I forgot. If not, pls do so

>>244415
We sent some diplomat ships though, didn't we?

>>243823
Dude fuck yes we accept, can we upgrade the ships and make them more militaristic? You know, faster sails, thicker hulls, cannons, etc?

>>244510
>>244511

You ordered it just as I ended last thread so I didn't really notice.

You send a diplomatic ship to the nearest port. It will take 3 rounds.

>>244579
You accept the trade deal with Belvin. You may upgrade the ship once you research better Light Ships. You may also equip better cannons as well.

How can i join this in any way? This looks fun as fuck

>>245534
Suggest an idea for research, or a way to improve the infrastructure/military/relations of the glorious Counsel State of Valornia.

>>245568
What >245534 said. You can also do political things (modify the government), religious (reforms and such) and others. As long as it's doable (which I will say if it is or isn't) and affordable.

Try not to go crazy though, be a little realistic. It's only the 1500s.

>>245590
Do we have compasses yet? Triangular sails? Let's start researching those. Start refining our ship designs for all classes, too.

>>245633
>>245590
Also, since we have scopes and lenses, telescopes and microscopes are possible. Start on those as well. Also begin working on complex chemistry in general.

>>245590
>>245634
And, while we're on this train of thought, os steel cheap and easy to come by? If yes, good. If not, then we should begin looking into how to make it more accessible and less expensive to produce.

>tfw you're about to sleep but suddenly you've got a billion thoughts about what should be happening in pokeciv

suffering

>>245633
Magnetism would be considered the research for compasses so that's fine.

ADVANCED SAILS on the other can be researched, which will take 13 rounds,

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>>245634
You start researching TELESCOPES, that will take 18 rounds.

You start researching MICROSCOPES, it will take 23 rounds.
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>>245637

Steel is made slowly with Blacksmiths- each making a resource of 1. You may research a way to make more.

You research STEEL MAKING. It will take 33 rounds.

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>>245641
Happens to the best of us. I'm still up because reasons.

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>>245655
Also, roads have been built per request.

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I'll be going to sleep now. I'll be back in the afternoon.

Build some more monasteries for our Holy Order.

I'm also voting for a more structured church in general. Do we have an archbishop/pope of any kind? If not we should elect one.

Can we try making writing/book making?

Can we go send a spy to see what's good tech wise with some of these other places?

>>245730
Where do wish to build monasteries?

Also, an Archbishop has been chosen long ago- it's Heidi the Yanma- she's still alive and kicking.

Of course this doesn't mean you can\t elect a new one if you want.

=---=---=
>>245832
Writing comes with LANGAUGE but book making is important.

You research the PRINTING PRESS. It will take 33 rounds.

=---=---=
>>245875
Which places do wish to send a spies?

>>246519
Oh, guess I forgot to specify. Maybe the zubat, Belvin and roselia place. Send the sneakiest one there. Second sneakiest to Belvin

>>246707
You send spies to the Duchy of Karovia, the Duchy of Belvin and the Kingdom of Zureis. Information will come over time once found unless they are caught.

>>247088
Oh yes, I forgot. The Basilica has been built in Jakoelfton.

>>246519
Holy fucking shit, Heidi is still alive? How fucking old is she?! HASN'T SHE BEEN HERE SINCE THE START!?

Also, can we get someone on our coffers? A treasurer or some shit to increase our Krystal income

>>248489
Have you ever seen a pokemon die of old age?

I haven't.

>>248524
Hey. Remember how the Primeape Kingdom was officially formed?

I do.

>>248532
Wasn't that through assassination?

>>248536
Our Primeape wife died nigga

>>248539
Not of old age though is what I'm saying. Pokemon are like half digital or something, they don't break down.

>>248546
Nah it was old age. Go back an read it... Think it was like, in the one prior to this, I swear to it.

Wait... do us Bug Pokemon live longer cause we molt? Is that it?!

>>248559
And I quote:

EVENT: 1532 - The Primeape Cheiftess - Tunali, is now dead, ending the political marriage between the Primeape tribe and Valornia but the heir is now of the Řeznicek family.

Due to internal influences from nobles, the Primeape tribe is now in the process of becoming a FEUDAL MONARCHY.

Once done, the first king will be Alexi Řeznicek.

>The Primeape Chieftess - Tunali, is now dead

Wanna tell me where it says she was old as fuck?

Still waiting on that Primeapess-on-Yanmega Femdom Artic

>>248574
Later

Yes Pokemon can die of old age. In fact, both Magnus and Heidi are pretty close to death but aren't there yet. But prepare yourselves when it happens.

>>248574
Take the starting year of the game and then subtract the date of her death. Give or take a few decades to account for life prior to Chief-hood.

This the real shit nigga, pokemon die mang. Is sad state of affairs...

>>248593
Never really stated the starting date but its supposed to 1475.

>>248598
Well shit, she was 57... Again, give or take a few... would 77-87 be a more accurate guess?

>>248574
>>248616

She may have been old but remember

>Due to internal influences from nobles

It could've been anything- it's up to interpretation as to how she died.

>>249533
Since its dead now I might as well do an event to spice things up.

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EVENT: The Zureisians

It seems that you're spy sent to Zureis was caught pretty quickly which can only mean god tidings for you as the only reason you know is because an armada of 15 Barques and 10 Carracks with your spy in chains.

The men who brought your spy over are quite livid at these turn of events and are not happy with Valornia at the moment. Along with the soldiers was a diplomat who was... wanting to talk to Magnus about certain things.

The diplomat, a Roselia named George, demands to meet Magnus.

What will you do?

>>249915
Allow the Diplomat in to speak.

>>249918
You give the diplomat a chance to speak to Magnus. The old Drapion was not pleased at these turn of events but is willing to hear out any visiting diplomats.

"Your... lordship? My name is George and I represent the crown of Zureis, King Christopher III and I have to say- he's quite mad that a rather small nation like yours has been... poking around where it doesn't belong."

"Yes, we know, we sent a spy and he got caught. Do you want an apology?"

"Well yes but our king wants more than that. He's been eying the south shore of Haven Island and has seen this smaller isle as a nice starting point for a campaign. Of course, with your nation here, he can't just waltz in and make a fort but you have built one for us. Let us use it and grant us unlimited access to your waters and land and you may never see us again."

It seems that the Zureisians don't know of your contact with Belvin and Juln.

Your response?

Suggestions:

>How do I know your king will keep his word?
>How about you leave my sight and forget my apology.
>Why does your king want the south shore?
>Write in

>>249932
>>Why does your king want the south shore?

>How do I know your king will keep his word?

>>249936

"Why does you king want the south shore? And how do I know your king will keep his word?"

"Hmm... The reason my king wants the south shore is simple- the Dark-types that live there subjagate all the other types that live there. If you don't believe me, go there yourself and don't tell them you're the leader of state such as this, they will mock you you for what you are and shun you without a word."

Magnus chooses not to tell George of the fact you already have been in contact with both Belvin and Juln and have yet to get a report of things like this happening- the opposite in fact considering during the time those Belvin mappers, it was stated by many how well mannered they are. Something to wonder about later.

"About the word of your king?"

"You should trust our kings word, he has no reason to renege on a deal that favors him."

"I don't mean that part- it's the, 'You'll never have to see us again' part that irks me."

"Ah that. Exaggerated a little. Now that we're in contact, we'll obviously see each other again but not in this manner- not unless you try to play your little games again."

What do you say now?

>Mention contact with south shore nations
>Negotiate the deal
>Write In

>>249947
>>Negotiate the deal

You can station an army in our fort and we will not attack you if you sail your ships through our waters.

In return however, you need to pay us a "rent" for harboring your troops and must share one piece of technology with us.

>>249958

"You may station your army in our fort and sail through out waters."

"Excellent."

"But in exchange, we want a stipend for using our fort."

"Considering your position, you don't have a leg to stand on."

"No. It's you who has no leg to stand on. Your king could not wipe a small religious order off the map and it's within your own borders. What makes you think that our state is no different? Unlike the Galliem Order, you have to sail here to face us and then land your troops as well. You may beat us in a naval race but in an army landing? We'll make sure you're lives are pure hell."

"...I'll see what I can do."

"One last thing."

"What is it?"

"We want something of value. An invention, a weapon design. Whatever you may consider advanced."

"That is something I will have to refuse."

"If you don't give something, then this talk is over."

"I hate to say this but if you don't accept the deal I've put forward... we'll blast you're main port apart."

What will you do?

>Accept
>Refuse and face the losses.
>Write In

>>249966
>>Write In


Submission. Now that's a bit of a problem. See, rumor has it . . . The Banette have already turned you down. And if those heathens and spooksters have found that kind of nerve, then, well we Valornians have our reputation to consider.

*Magnus looks back to Heidi*

*She nods*

"Land and water? You'll find plenty of both at the bottom of our lake. You bring ships to my city steps. You insult my nation. You threaten my people with war and death.Oh I've chosen my words carefully Zureisian. Perhaps you should have done the same."

Kill the diplomat, have the Spheal forces we command or even the civilians use surf to fuck with their navy. Send whatever combat ready ships we have into battle. Have the flying types air bomb their ships.

>>249995
We do not have the resources to fight a war with Zureis, friend. I feel that the current deal works just fine.

Not happy with it, but let's wait and bide our time.

>>249995
>>249999
Czeched

Considering this is a big decision, I'll let it sit until I wake up in the afternoon.

But be creative, think about every move you make in this negotiation.

Fuck, this is why I wanted to send our sneakiest spy there!

>>249995
I don't think we should either. This puts us in a good position to double-cross them later.

>>249999
We're not giving them that land though, else they could find that southern continent, making it a bitch to attack them later.
What we need right now, is a good bluff.

>>250275
If we can convince them to invest heavily in the south, that can further divide their forces. Who knows if they'd run into hostility down south and force themselves to split their military

>>250298
Perhaps we could convince them that the south isn't worthy of investment, that the north is a better option?

>>250535
I'm really not sure what to do here. The southern continent is already housing nations with harbors, clearly.

Perhaps we could try to direct Zureis into hostilities while pretending submission?

>>250698
we're already in a bad position with them, but we could always consider lying if they discover something (like psh oh those guys are a real doozy, I wouldn't go with anything less than a bunch of battle ships and men!) or lie and say we couldn't find anything down there. We could even keep referring to our island as the southernmost land in the world or something

>>250802
Hmm, what if we make up a lie, that the world is actually flat? and south of our nation, there's a dragon that will eat up any ship?

>>250933
>>250802
>>250698
>>250535
>>250275
>>250103

Great ideas here. I'll let it sit till 4:30 P.M then I'll see where we go from there.

How about we destroy the fort from withen. We offer the soldiers alcohol and pleasures everyday that they are on duty, softening their resolve. We carve secret passages in which we can watch and listen. We could even pull a Viet Cong tactic and have escorts be with the soldiers, and then tell us everything.

Let's try to change these soldiers faith and loyalty by requiring that's they attend preaching a by our Church.

>>251608
That's one for screwing them over culturally...

>>250802
And one for misdirection.

Fuck, do this >>250933, (Misdirection) first and >>251608 if they persist.

>>252027
((This thread has been slow, this will be the last thing I do this thread before I open another tomorrow.))

"Hmph... fine, we accept your deal for now. Though there is something I neglected to tell you."

"And what is it? Speak up now."

"You may think you hold all the cards but our lands to the south, even further than this island, are where we hold our cards. Why don't you go see for yourself?"

"Are you saying you have another island that you hold to the south? Interesting. The king will want to hear this. Thank you for telling us. Hehe, and thanks for... having this talk with me."

"Don't be more a bother and leave before I take my decision back."

"Right, right. You brutes are all the same..."

George left the buildings carrying his arrogance and squad of soldiers with him, leaving the spy behind.

For now, the Zuriesians have access to your waters and are sharing your fort in Chrabrost. What you do with them in Chrabrost is up to you, but for now, you will bide your time and hope the Zuriesians do not find out about your contact with Belvin.

=---=---=

You have researched LANDFILLING. You may now make small changes to coastlines and create small artificial islands.

You have researched a special weapon for DARK-TYPES- the SCOPED LENS FLINTLOCK MUSKET requires a Dark-type for the Lens to function properly. When equipped to a Dark-type, the musket has accuracy of 80% and does 65 damage. With this weapon, you may train special Sneasel, Murkrow, and Purrloin units.

=---=---=

That should be it for this thread. A slow weekend but some things have been done but now the Zuriesians are onto you. Next thread will be interesting.

Twitter: @Artic_Kobold
Stats: http://pastebin.com/B4bgBxNn

>>252135
Why did we tell them about the southern continent?

[test]

>>262981
[test]

Rolled 6 (1d10)

>>262987