>Thread Question: How do the different sentient species interact with each other?>Thread task: Develop the different sentient species of the setting.>Another thread task: Make a small detailed map or infographic for one of the nations Wikihttps://crumbling-giantstep.fandom.com/wiki/https://crumbling-giantstep.fandom.com/wiki/https://crumbling-giantstep.fandom.com/wiki/Rules:>be nice>don't fuck up other people's lore>don't add new landmasses>no fetishes/coomershit>don't sperg out if people don't accept or like your lore/additionsProject Ideas:>Hexmap>Hand drawn map>Diplomacy Map>TL;DR for all the nations>Extended CompassHow can I help expand the wiki?>Upload missing images to the wiki>Create Hyperlinks>Add pictures>Create missing articles>Search the archives and expand existing articles >Correct grammar and writing mistakes>Create lists and sub-categories for similiar articles>Make lists of articles that need fixing>Make the wiki look more appealing by fixing ugly layouting>Freshen up the front page and make it look nice>Write up lore for articles that feel lacking (everything goes trough the thread first)Other Things that can be done right away>Write up lore (politics, culture, economy, characters, creatures, … )>Figure out essential trade goods for each nation>Figure out the popular weapons used by each nation>Make maps>Expand and update the Bestiary and Herbarium >Figure out trade routes >Create a Star map and Zodiacs>Expand the underground lore>Help expand the worlds history>Write about world villains, wars or other threats>Work on giantstep’s mythology and religions>Think about the world’s cosmology, day/night cycle, seasons, sea currents and so onPrevious thread>>87956630
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Google Doc Link for the timeline. As updated as it can be.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Weiu2IWHLvwzuWaCnggBT0nYVzJvvHEeD0ec3KB16WI/edit?usp=sharing
I will summarize some more sentient species tomorrow night
>>88125122This needs a serious update.
How do underground societies work?
>>88131917Snoloths be blessed.
Finishing the lore dump about the Drow Uprisings. If there's some lore I've gotten wrong, feel free to point it out.The year 1.935 ABE saw another of the great cataclysms of the 20th Century. The lands of Scimitarian had been growing more and more unstable, mostly due to the apathy of the faerie lords and growing dissidence within the Western Elven Empire. While the fey empire had survived the economic crisis better than most, since the fall of the Merfolk Empire the nation had crumbled slowly but consistently. Historians still argue how a powerful empire like the Western Elven Empire could lose its footing in relatively little time, and during mostly peaceful times. However, this division planted the seeds of discord and rebellion in one of the component members of the empire: the drow. Mostly underground dwellers, the drow had been a numerous, yet relatively minor part of the Western Elven Empire. They mostly lived underground, deep in the volcanic caverns of Central Scimitarian, always on the move to find areas safe from magma and the seismic activity. They had little power and prestige, and had to live very dangerous lives, either as foot soldiers, scouts or explorers of the depths, mostly working for the dwarven kingdoms. Their situation had worsened, and their demands for a bigger say in the politics of the empire had been ignored outright by the faerie lords.
>>88134271With the increasing detachment of the faerie lords, the drow leaders saw this as a chance, pushing for more and more independence of their domains. However, instead of getting the political power they sought after, they instead fell into the sphere of influence of the dwarven kingdoms. What little freedoms their lands held were smothered by the dwarven administrations, much more organized than most fey holdings. The growing paranoia of the dwarven, mostly due to the prophecies their seers had been getting, made them reinforce their halls and kingdoms, using the drow to build fortresses and strongholds underground, as well as walls of orichalcum to protect their cities from magma flows. The rate of work the drow were put under was immense, and many drows rose in protests, but unorganized and with no real help from the remains of the empire, they were left to rot at the depths of Scimitarian. Not even the petitions of help to the azanese court worked, since Azan was in a very profitable partnership with the dwarven kingdoms, as well as a lot of influence from the dwarven in Azan.
>>88134287This devolved into a lot of infighting, with the leadership of the different drow nations constantly fighting one another for whatever scrap of power they could get. And yet, at the beginning of the 20th Century ABE, a figure would appear to change the situation entirely. Shellica Owign, known in Azan as Celia “the Grim”, was the heiress of a minor drow nation. Disgusted by the weakness she saw on her people, she swore to take down the oppressors of her kin. Using her connections and a great deal of political skill, she managed to convince the different drow nations to partake in a great conspiracy against the dwarven kingdoms. The details of this plot are not well known, but what we do know is that it was originally just a push against the dwarven kingdoms to gain their freedom and independence from both the dwarves and the Western Elven Empire. However, the plans and goals of Celia spread out throughout the drow nobility, and soon enough she had more than enough support to begin planning bigger. Soon, the dwarves began seeing that the usually squabbling drow were working more obediently now, protesting less and less against the dwarven abuses. Feeling confident but still worried about the prophecy, the dwarves lowered their guard, and decreased the watch over the drow. Many dwarves, as well as human and fey, even began accepting drow as domestic personnel, something that became a sign of prestige between the nobility. What was more, the drow had discovered a great vein of gold and aether deep inside one of the deepest caverns of Scimitarian, near an active volcano. The dwarves soon began arguing for which hold could claim ownership of this great prize, and all of them raced to claim a foothold first. This sensation of safety blinded the dwarven kingdoms, who, at the recommendation of their drow serfs, organized a great celebration to their gods by the end of the year.
>>88134310And it would be during these celebrations, when all dwarves were busy drinking and eating, that the trap would sprung, and the first of the many Drow Uprisings would take place.
>>88134322The drow were planning for rebellion, but knew that a direct confrontation against the dwarves and their azanese allies would not guarantee victory. Thus, Celia decided to use subterfuge. She maneuvered her trusted personnel into the protection and guarding of the dwarven fortresses either already built or still in construction, guaranteeing a considerable presence of drow there. Armed with anything they could hide in plain sight, they acted as domestic personnel in every place they could be of use, especially in noble households. In the streets and the underway roads, many gangs of drow began hiding, waiting for a signal to strike. At the new year celebrations, many dwarves, humans and fey began puking blood and bile, the water and food they were drinking having been poisoned. When chaos and confusion began spreading in the festivities, a magical signal was given, and everywhere at once, the drow jumped to take down the poisoned dwarves, fey and human. In a couple of hours, the crème of the crop of the Western Elven Empire and the dwarven kingdoms were dead, their throats slit and their bodies impaled on the streets. Outside, the chaos ensued, with tens of thousands of drow appearing from the shadows and taking down thousands of soldiers and civilians alike. This happened all throughout central and southern Scimitarian, the underground suddenly becoming a bloodbath. The fey and dwarven armies were taken completely by surprise, and in many cases they had been surrounded and backstabbed as well, and were in no position to counter the efforts of the drow. After that, they let chaos and confusion do the rest. By dawn, the Western Elven Empire in Scimitarian had been practically annihilated, with the drow launching an ultimatum: submit to the Shellica Owign and the new Drow Empire (later renamed the Second Elven Empire) or die.
Where's the lore map?
>>88136624It hasn't changed since last time
>>88134349I guess it works if some of drow were being abused by the dwarves (or perhaps allowed themselves to be in order to pave the way for the invasion)But most of the drow were from underground cities outside the reach of Azan or WEE, often not even in Scimitaria. The attack is described as an invasion on several occasions and a migration on others, and there is mention of a drow city below Azan that was emptied out to support the invasionAlso you agreed just four days ago you were not going to write it as an uprising but did anyways
>>88139894>Also you agreed just four days ago you were not going to write it as an uprising but did anywaysDammit, you're right. The name keeps misleading me. But I'm not sure how well it works if the drow cities are outside of Scimitarian. Why would they go out of their way to conquer the WEE or Azan if they weren't there already? And where would they be otherwise? Maybe a more straightforward "volcanic activity floods the drow undercities, they have to end up as servants of the dwarves to survive, they end up fed up with the dwarves and humans and rebel, all while many undercities move to the surface to find a new home"?
>>88137687What's lacking in the gokmavi?
I want to make an alchemical tortoise with an eye for a shell, but AI has failed me, so by hand it is. Can someone kho knows how use it as an ai prompt?
Also, I got this. Which is neat.
>>88140941Hmm maybe these posts can give insighthttps://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/85442583/#85490081>Over time, the influence of the Azan Empire gradually lessened in the region, eventually leading to a series of wars against the united Drow, who aimed in creating a succesor state of the First Elven Empire. Even though they were initially succesful, their "Second Elven Empire" was short lived, and they were eventually driven back into their ashlands over a series of wars throughout Scimitaria.This happened in the 8th Azan Dynastyhttps://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/85981957/#86074604>Queen Celia, who would later go on to crown herself Empress Celia II after her legendary ancestor, had manage to do the impossible and convince many of the western underground drow cities that great riches could be had by conquering the Scimitarian dwarf cities. Forging alliances across religious lines and ancient rivalries, she assembles and army of hundreds of thousands, who make their way westward undetected via long forgotten tunnels.>Pleusides Faber, posted in what is now modern day Calcabra at the time, was one of the first military losses. It is rumored he died in Celia’s personal dungeon after weeks of torture.>Celia would go on to wield Firebrand in countless battles. With many of the most experienced Legions heading eastwards to fight the new Witch-Elf threat, much of Scimitaria is overrun before the Azan Empire can truly comprehend the scale of the drow invasion. In attempt to recruit the few remaining fey malcontents in Scimitaria, Celia crowns herself Empress of the Second Elf Empire (thus lumping all previous iterations of the Elven Empire together as the “First Elven Empire”). Her rein only lasts less than two decades however before she is assassinated by unknown parties. Without her leadership, the Second Elf Empire fragments into the Drow Confederacy, which in turn become the Drow City States.
>>88145325>Queen Celia, who would later go on to crown herself Empress Celia II after her legendary ancestorOk, so Celia was a drow from Giantstep that saw the chance of creating an empire, and organized a revolt in Giantstep, to then go to Scimitarian and conquer it? What about something like this:>Celia is a drow from Giantstep, in one of the many drow underground cities.>She sees the WEE in disgust and wants to replace it with her own empire.>She spends years organizing the drow from both sides of the sea.>She even contacts the witchelven to match the rebellion with a witchelven attack>The plan happens during the new year celebrations. Huge success in Scimitarian, failure in Giantstep.>Celia has to flee for her life, capturing a port city and using the ships to flee to Scimitarian before the azanese armies capture her.>She succesfully flees and creates the Second Elven Empire, or the Drow Empire.>Whatever remnant of the WEE falls, the dwarven kingdoms put up a fight, but are overwhelmed. Many panicked and have to flee to Giantstep, causing chaos in azanese territories in Scimitarian.>From there, she begins winning battle after battle, expanding the empire faster and faster>She even captures the legendary Firebrand Sword as a trophy, the sword is added to the shield of arms of the Second Elven Empire.>she gets betrayed by an unknown party, and the empire crumbles fast into the Drow Confederacy.>By the end of it all, Azan has been battered and has lost almost all Scimitarian and Isle of Wizards.
>>88145325Also, how powerful should the Second Elven Empire be at the sea? They indeed attack the Island of Wizards, but that's pretty close to the shore. And the drow are underground dwellers.
>>88145464>Ok, so Celia was a drow from Giantstep that saw the chance of creating an empire, and organized a revolt in Giantstep, to then go to Scimitarian and conquer it?I don't think that post ever said she Celia was from. If you want to make her from Giantstep sure but nothing says she can't be a Scimitarian
>>88146116That's one way the drow uprisings could affect Azan. A couple of failed drow uprisings in Azan could definitively cause some chaos in the country, and would give Azan a lot of motivation to go to Scimitarian to take her down. Once there, the split forces of Azan could suffer tremendous losses and cause a crisis that puts Azan's existence in peril.Plus, Celia's name sounds too human and not enough fey-ish. So maybe it could be because she's from Azan.
>>88145464Also note the "Western Eleven Empire/First Elven Empire" was a retroactive name for multiple Faerie Lord led coalitions and regimes that expanded and contracted at different times.For example, by the end of the Third Dynasty most of it was in a personal union with the Azan Empire in an Avengin style situation, but that lasted for five generations or so at most.So no need to get too caught up on it's status at any given time. It's literally a meme.
>>88145325>>88139894I've modified a couple of things from the last lore dump. Maybe this fits better?
>>88146360This devolved into a lot of infighting, with the leadership of the different drow nations constantly fighting one another for whatever scrap of power they could get. And yet, at the beginning of the 20th Century ABE, a figure would appear to change the situation entirely. Shellica Owign, known in Azan as Celia “the Grim”, was the heiress of a minor drow nation, near the coast of Giantstep, in what nowadays is part of the Terusia Isthmus. A very skilled politician, she was disgusted by the weakness she saw on her people, in both Scimitarian and Giantstep. She also greatly distrusted the faerie lords, seeing them as leeches that had sucked all vitality to the empire and now left it dry and empty. She swore to reconstruct the Western Elven Empire, putting the drow in their rightful place as rulers and expelling once and for all the influence of the faerie lords from the empire. However, she knew full well that, at their current state, the drow had not chance to gain any significant victory against Azan and the dwarven empire. Using her connections and a great deal of political skill, she managed to convince the different drow nations to partake in a great conspiracy against the dwarven kingdoms. The details of this plot are not well known, but we do know that the plans and goals of Celia spread out throughout the drow nobility, and soon enough she had more than enough support in both continents to begin her schemes (and enough support to dispose silently of all her opponents).
>>88146372Soon, the dwarves began seeing that the usually squabbling drow were working more obediently now, protesting less and less against the dwarven abuses. Feeling confident but still worried about the prophecy, the dwarves lowered their guard, and decreased the watch over the drow. Many dwarves, as well as human and fey, even began accepting drow as domestic personnel, something that became a sign of prestige between the nobility. In Azan, the number of drow living in human cities began to grow as well, mostly in sanitation and domestic work. What was more, the drow had discovered a great vein of gold and aether deep inside one of the deepest caverns of Scimitarian, near an active volcano, and the dwarves soon began arguing for which hold could claim ownership of this great prize, taking their watchful eyes off the drow. This sensation of safety blinded the dwarven kingdoms, who, at the recommendation of their drow serfs, organized a great celebration to their gods by the end of the year. At the same time in Azan, a series of attacks at the border forced a particularly important movement of troops, with the threat to the border cities being quite real. And it would be during these celebrations, when all dwarves were busy drinking and eating, that the trap would sprung, and the first of the many Drow Uprisings would take place.
>>88146384The drow were planning for rebellion, but knew that a direct confrontation against the dwarves and their azanese allies would not guarantee victory. Thus, Celia decided to use subterfuge. She maneuvered her trusted personnel into the protection and guarding of the dwarven fortresses either already built or still in construction, guaranteeing a considerable presence of drow there. Armed with anything they could hide in plain sight, they acted as domestic personnel in every place they could be of use, especially in noble households. In the streets and the underway roads, many gangs of drow began hiding, waiting for a signal to strike. There are even rumors that Celia even managed to enter in contact with the witchelven, entering a pact to coincide the rebellion with a witchelven attack to the border.
>>88146401At the new year celebrations, many dwarves, humans and fey began puking blood and bile, the water and food they were drinking having been poisoned. When chaos and confusion began spreading in the festivities, a magical signal was given, and everywhere at once, the drow jumped to take down the poisoned dwarves, fey and human. In a couple of hours, the crème of the crop of the Western Elven Empire and the dwarven kingdoms were dead, their throats slit and their bodies impaled on the streets. Outside, the chaos ensued, with tens of thousands of drow appearing from the shadows and taking down thousands of soldiers and civilians alike. This happened all throughout central and southern Scimitarian, the underground suddenly becoming a bloodbath. The fey and dwarven armies were taken completely by surprise, and in many cases they had been surrounded and backstabbed as well, and were in no position to counter the efforts of the drow. After that, they let chaos and confusion do the rest. By dawn, the Western Elven Empire in Scimitarian had been practically annihilated, with the drow launching an ultimatum: submit to the Shellica Owign and the new Drow Empire (later renamed the Second Elven Empire) or die.
>>88146413In Azan, however, the situation was not as positive. The azanese nobility was more prepared than she expected, and while the drow managed to take down a couple of important politicians, nobles and priests, the rebellion was stopped right in its tracks. The rebellion had happened too soon, and there were not enough drow infiltrated in high society to represent a serious threat to azanese rule. What was worse, the state of war and the extra levies meant that the cities were not as poorly defended as she hoped. The attack caused a great deal of outrage, and the azan crown immediately ordered a purge of all drow involved in the uprising, with an order to capture Celia alive to face trial and execution. And while many historians praise Celia as a great stateswoman and schemer, her knowledge of the battlefield was not as great. Seeing that her goals in Azan had failed, Celia took as many of her men as she could and sailed to Scimitarian in stolen azanese ships. Many drow also took to the sea, fearing the retribution of the azanese, moving to Scimitarian and Wanaidheain, and this state of confusion allowed Celia to escape.The azanese emperor immediately declared war upon Celia and her strongholds in Scimitarian, beginning the First Azanese-Drow War.
>>88146175Again, her place of birth is unknown at the time, but a lot of Drow have Italic sounding names. For example the Adrianite Emperors
>>88146980The one bit I don't get is >Queen Celia, who would later go on to crown herself Empress Celia II after her legendary ancestor>Her legendary ancestorSo who was Celia I?
>>88147250I will look it up of it was mentioned but if not it's free lore to expand on
>>88147250Oh here we go.https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/85981957/#q86074485"Celia" was just the then-current translation of "Chalia"Like how "Yeshua" became "Jesus"
>>88143341Something about the religion and the foreign relations, I'd say
>>88150276the history also seems incomplete
>>88150297A lot of the gokmavi history is in the historical maps page.
Ok, so the next map will show the rise and fall of the Second Elven Empire (1.957 ABE). It shows the Drow Empire kicking out the azanese from Scimitarian and the Isle of Wizards, forcing their populations to fend for themselves. It also shows the witchelven steamrolling of the azanese to the east, conquering and burning down lands such as Hasteria, Aer'la and what would become the Gomorrah Breach. Divided between two wars, the azanese armies crumble, and an emergency state is declared all throughout the empire, requiring near all men of fighting age to go to the front. In the east, the Northern Khenomeric Empire finally secedes for good, to the surprise of noone. Not sure what else to put that's relevant. If anyone can think of anything else, feel free to point it out. Anyway, the events would go like this:>Celia arrives to Scimitarian, she's crowned as the Empress Celia II, in honor of the legendary drow matriarch Celia I.>The azanese army pursues her in Scimitarian, they help the dwarven kingdoms still standing.>Battle of Teergua River. Decisive Drow victory. Azanese forces get routed and have to run for their lives.>Azan begins evacuating personnel from Scimitarian. Dwarven and human lands have to fend for themselves. >Drow take over the remnants of Azan in Scimitarian. Azanese fleet tries to contain the advance to Scimitarian. Massive fortresses built in the Terusia isthmus. > Drow armies manage to reach the Island of Wizards. Chaos and lack of defenses allow for an initial quick advance, but lack of numbers due to azanese dominion of the seas makes their advance stall. >To the east, the witchelven burn and raze everything they find, sacrificing people and causing tens of thousands to flee in terror. Teeming masses of refugees clog the empire's ability to deal with them. >Azan prioritizes the witchelven threat, sends the legions to defend the borders.>Battle of Broken Horn, Decisive Azanese defeat, Azan loses three legions to a witchelven trap.
>>88161456>Azan declares a state of emergency. Every man of fighting age gets conscripted.>Massive protests against the levies, the army needs to stop certain internal rebellions.>Celia II is murdered. Nobody knows who really did it. The Second Elven Empire continues to fight, but begins losing ground in the Isle of Wizards. Cracks in the empire quickly begin to appear.>The Second Elven Empire falls to infighting. The Drow Confederacy replaces it. Treaty of Terusia between Azan and the Confederacy, Azan accepts the territorial losses in exchange for peace to focus on the witchelven.>Great Rebellion in the NKE. Declaration of Independence from the Khenomeric Empire.Anything else?
>>88161456I just realized the timeline says "Northern Scimitaria and the Isle of Wizards free themselves from drow occupation." in 1.950 ABE. I'll have to correct that bit.
How autistic has this project become on a scale from 1 to 10?
>>8816320710It's nothing, but autism
Updated the sentient species list.Also, if we're going to add the info to each of them, what's the minimum to consider the species explained?I'd propose the following:>Anatomic Description-Size and shape-Senses-Diet-Reproduction-Lifespan>Society Description-Social structure-Familiar structure (if it has)-Religion-Forms of living-Main locations
>>88155545perhaps it'd be better to port it over for accessibiltiy's sake
>HobbitsAnatomy Description: Humanoid, four feet tall, slightly pointed ears, hairy tops of feet, somewhat longer lived than humans.Society Description: Hobbits prefer peaceful, agrarian lifestyles, but can be dangerous when needed or when affiliated with unseelie fey. Some have moved to human dominated areas to adopt a more mercantile lifestyle. Geographic Extent: Level 4, hobbits are the most numerous race in Hereby and the Calcrabian Mountains, but are also relatively common in a number of other northwestern nations.Discussion: N/A>Common GnomesAnatomy Description: Humanoid, three feet tall, long lifespan, males almost always have beards.Society Description: Varies by region and by affiliation, but some common traits are; living underground, obsession with gemstones, living in familial clans, skill at illusion magic, skill at guerrilla warfare.Geographic Extent: Level 3, gnomes are the most numerous race in Thereby, and can be found in certain parts of the northwest and northeast.Discussion: N/A>Swamp GnomesAnatomy Description: Humanoid, three feet tall, long lifespan, ugly and covered in warts. Sometimes common gnomes that live in swampy areas are called swamp gnomes, but a certain faction occasionally found within the Dominion is considered different enough to be a distinct subrace.Society Description: Swamp gnomes are loners who spend more time in the Faerie Realm than this world. They are adept at a form of alchemy and at murder, and can be bribed, though they are very treacherous by nature.Geographic Extent: Level 1, “true” swamp gnomes are fairly rare even in the Dominion of the Bog-Witch, and almost unknown elsewhere.Discussion: N/A
>>88172594>BrowniesAnatomy Description: Humanoid, six inches tall, long lifespan, resemble humans aside from small size.Society Description: Brownies are shy hunter-gatherers that tend to stay in a particular area. They live underground and have elaborate tunnel networks to travel safely in their home terrain. They are generally harmless, but can be dangerous if they possess magic and are affiliated with unseelie fey.Geographic Extent: Level 3, brownies can be found in Whereby and a few other parts of the northwest.Discussion: subcategory should be changed to “small-folk” >Common Mushroomites Anatomy Description: Humanoid mushroom, six inches tall, though size can vary greatly, biology is fungal-based (reproduce by spores, etc.), short-lived.Society Description: Mushroomites are primitive, but have a hive-mind like organization. They spend most of their time tending to the fungi in their region.Geographic Extent: Level 3, mushroomites can be found in The Fungest and a few other regions in the northern parts of the main continent.Discussion: subcategory should be changed to “small-folk” >Muscarin Mushroomites Anatomy Description: Humanoid mushroom, six inches tall, though size can vary greatly (even more so than Common Mushroomites), biology is fungal-based (reproduce by spores, etc.), short-lived, tainted by proximity to the Dominion.Society Description: Similar to Common Mushroomites, but more aggressive and hostile to other races, but also more adventurous. Geographic Extent: Level 2A, Muscarins can be found mostly in The Toxic Fungest.Discussion: subcategory should be changed to “small-folk”
>>88172601>Fake HumansAnatomy Description: “Fake Humans” have a mix of human, halfling, and ogre blood, which often results in individuals that can pass as humans from a distance, but are disconcerting up close.Society Description: “Fake Humans” are often discriminated against due to their mixed heritage and disconcerting appearance, even more so than “mutts” and other half-breeds. They often live among their own kind, but sometimes can be found among the bottom rungs of other societies.Geographic Extent: Level 3, Fake Humans have their own region of sorts east of Hereby. They are also tolerated in Sniden and can occasionally found in human nations.Discussion: N/A>PitchhaulersAnatomy Description: Humanoid, three feet tall, blue/green/purple skin, plaint-like hair, long pointy nose and ears.Society Description: Pitchhaulers exist to harvest and move pitch, it is likely they were created for this purpose.Geographic Extent: Level 1, Pitchhaulers mostly live in the western parts of the Dominion of the Bog-Witch, and even here they are fairly rare.Discussion: N/A>BugbearsAnatomy Description: Humanoid, seven to eight feet tall, mostly covered in hair, flat goblinoid face. Society Description: Bugbear cultures vary by region, but tend to be violent and tribal, except in the Drow City States where many have become subservient to the drow. Geographic Extent: Level 2B, it is believed bugbears were once more numerous, but these days only small pockets exist in the northwest, including Orc’eire, south Scimitaria, and Felovik.Discussion: should be category “goblinoid”
>>88172610Fake Humans are just a depressing existence
>>88173654I'm sure they are up to something...Also, do they have a proper name? How do they call themselves?
>>88178771Sorry, there was a typo there. Fixed.
Why didn‘t we manage to get any artfags on board?
>>88172594>>88172601>>88172610Excellent work anon! We need more posts like this
>>88179819We could ask for help in the drawthreads.
We need to fill a couple of maps. Plus upload them to the wiki.
>>88144476What would be the lore for this thing?
>>88179819There is no more artfags only AI all artfags died
>>88186886How many here actually knows how to use AI art properly? I can never get what I want...
>>88188287It's just trial and error. Do it 50 times and it'll eventually work
>>88172601I completely forgot about Brownies
>>88168381>>88161456Here we have an approximation of the world's great powers right at the year 1.935 ABE.By the dawn of the first day of 1.935 ABE, a good part of the world as was known was in flames. The Drow Uprisings had succeeded in the majority of areas of the Western Elven Empire, effectively deleting the ancient empire overnight. The dwarven kingdoms had prepared for decades for an eventuality such as this, but betrayed, their fortifications infiltrated by the enemy and with most of their leadership poisoned, they were on the back foot from the beginning. Still, the dwarves were the only group within Scimitarian that put up a fight from the start, but they realized that their situation was grim and asked their azanese allies for help. It would later turned out that they did not need to ask, since Azanese forces were on their way before the dwarven messengers arrived to Giantstep. After the failure of the drow uprisings in Giantstep, thousands of drow had tried to run away from azanese authorities, the first days after the events being highly chaotic, something taken advantage by the witchelven. Between the hundreds of ships that sailed to the west was Celia “the Grim”, seeking refuge between her scimitarian followers, with the azanese navy following her.
>>88192665Her arrival to Scimitarian caused a wave of public enthusiasm between the drow, and many came to join her forces at the news of her arrival. However, many drow nobles were less happy to see Celia arriving at Scimitarian. True, she had been the one to orchestrate the entire movement, but all the sweat and blood spilt in Scimitarian had been done by the scimitarian drow, and she had failed to achieve her goals in Azan, having to run away to save her life. Many argue that the only reason she was not immediately ousted from power was due to the popularity of her character. She appeared to the masses as the lost descendent of the mythical Chenzira Chalia, the mythical drow matriarch back in the long lost past of drow history. This granted her quite a lot of manpower, turning her forces into the biggest drow army in Scimitarian. Still, she needed to reassure her power and status in the uprising before trying to get the nobles into line. The first task she needed to accomplish was to take down the azanese forces arriving from the sea and the north. Azan had sent a considerable contingent to Scimitarian, both to capture the drow leader Celia and to help the azanese allies and vassals in the continent. However, Azanese forces were deeply enmeshed against the witchelven in the eastern provinces, and as such, the relief force was considerably smaller than what it could have been otherwise. Still, at this point in time, the drow was not yet used to fight open battles against a professional enemy, and that combined with the azanese domination of the seas, there was a very real possibility of azan taking down the drow forces one by one.
>>88192892Needing to find reinforcements, Celia moved to the west, trying to force the azanese forces to chase them. Azanese forces began moving towards Celia’s forces, liberating many human, fey and dwarven settlements they found. And while this motivated the azanese forces, and allowed them some needed relief and resupply, it also allowed the drow forces to converge at the west side of the Teergua River. The azanese armies managed to establish dominance in the eastern side of the river and began advancing quickly towards the bulk of Celia’s forces. However, the azanese general at the time did not take into account the possibility of an attack from underground as seriously as he should have, and led the rear of his armies somewhat unprotected. While tangled against the drow forces and with many units still crossing the river, the drow came from hidden burrows and tunnels, dismantling the supply lines and dividing the army in two. Despite the drow reinforcements being lesser in number than the azanese troops, the fey and dwarven auxiliaries at the back folded quickly, and the mostly green troops entered in a state of panic, quickly clustering at the shores of the river. In disarray and without a chance to escape, they became easy prey to the ambushers, and many azanese soldiers drowned in the river. At the other side of the river, panic began spreading as well, and with growing pressure at the front and no way to retreat to the other side of the river, the azanese general surrendered to Celia.
>>88192906The Battle of the Teergua River was a decisive blow to the azanese war effort. The bulk of the azanese troops who had sailed to Scimitarian had been captured, and would not be liberated until the end of the war. This allowed Celia the political prestige with the drow nobility that she needed, and her popularity with the people skyrocketed. Taking advantage of this, in 1.936 ABE she officially declared the founding of the Second Elven Empire (known by her enemies as the Drow Empire), crowning herself as Celia II. This led the remaining drow nobles to fall in line to her war efforts, increasing the hold the drow were gaining over the continent. On the other hand, Azan was horrified at the loss. They desperately needed manpower to the east, and losing the main forces sent to aid the scimitarian vassals was something that took a toll on the azanese army. Sensing that continuing the fight in Scimitarian would led to nothing but a slow bleed, the azanese emperor ordered a withdrawal from the continent. All loyal forces in Scimitarian were to take a ship and come to Wanaidheain or to Giantstep to regroup. This caused plenty of chaos in the human and dwarven settlements in Scimitarian, who began falling quickly to Celia’s forces. By 1.957 ABE, the drow had subdued the last independent dwarven kingdoms, beginning to advance north and east. In the Battle of the Calcabrian Fields, Celia’s forces managed to beat the azanese remnants in Calcabria. It is said that this battle was when Celia II managed to capture the legendary Firebrand sword from the hands of Pleusides Faber, governor of the region and the last member of the azanese army of any importance in Scimitarian. The azanese strategy change to one of containment, since the drow navy was poorly manned and trained, and the azanese had burned many ships that might have fallen to the enemy before leaving shores.
>>88192922Nevertheless, in 1.958 ABE a drow fleet managed to slip from the azanese grip and landed in Wanaidheain. Unprotected as it was, it fell to the drow in less than a year, giving a massive blow to Azan, which now had the drow much closer to its own borders, though it would prove very difficult to maintain.
>>88192936To the east, the situation was ever grimmer. The witchelven were accelerating their advance, learning the weaknesses of the azanese and using them to their fullest: they would actively raid the countryside to starve the cities until hunger and starvation would weaken their population significantly. Once this happened, a quick attack would try to force their way into the city. After a couple of attempts, always moving fast so as to not enter into a direct fight with the azanese army, they would enter into the cities and take prisoners of all men. They would then sacrifice them to their wicked gods, burning down the cities and leaving the women and children to run away further into the empire. This would guarantee the tales of fear and brutality to spread further throughout the empire, as well as keeping as many resources into maintaining refugees as possible. If applied correctly, this allowed increasingly faster results, especially in those areas where azanese cavalry was not available in higher numbers. And every time the azanese went deep into witchelven territory, the few victories they achieved in the field weren’t enough to justify the slow grind caused by guerrilla and enemy action. After the Battle of the Teergua River in Scimitarian, the focus of Azan moved once again to the east, preparing a massive push to try to capture or kill Morwenna, hoping to end a war that was ruining the empire to levels never before seen.
>>88192956After many years of fight, the azanese forces managed to apparently surround Morwenna in the Broken Horn Fortress, a massive dwarven fortress captured by the witchelven, and now used as a logistic center. The emperor sent three entire legions to end the war once and for all. The siege would last for more than a year, and during all this time, they caused more witchelven losses than the previous years combined, many witchelven troops trying to break the siege from the outside. This encouraged the azanese commanders, who saw this battle as a way to bleed the witchelven forces white, for once stuck on a single battlefield instead of having to chase them down up and down the continent. However, this apparent positive outcome made the azanese commanders blind to the heavy losses their forces were taking, and with growing rainstorms turning the nearby lands into a sea of mud. Disease began plaguing the soldiers, debilitating their push considerably. Still, during the last push to breach the fortress, Morwenna’s plan went into effect: using the sacrifices accumulated for years and the death all around her, she started a ritual that would thin the veil of reality around the fortress, invoking the first legion of succubi that Giantstep ever saw. Not expecting this, and with little experience into taking down this foes, the azanese wizards responded ineffectively late to the wave of succubi and witchelven pouring through. Ignoring the muddy terrain and the heavy rain, they were swarmed while trying to run, the azanese resolved having evaporated due to the sheer fear of this new enemy. Thousands fell in the swamps at the hands of the succubi and the witchelven raiders. Even when the energies dissipated and the succubi evaporated, the rout could not be stopped, with the azanese remnants surrounded, captured and sacrificed in honor of the Succubus Queen.
>>88192968The defeat of Broken Horn Fortress was the single biggest defeat in Azanese history. From the three legions that had started the siege, only two hundred soldiers had been able to escape the battle alive. This massive loss, as well as the rituals to summon succubi meant that azanese losses began speeding up fast. Many cities were burned down, and tens of thousands were captured and sent to the heart of the Witchelven Empire. The azanese emperor declared a state of emergency: the current levies weren’t enough to stop the witchelven. All men of fighting age had to be recruited into the army, trying to fill the gap left in Broken Horn. The number of cavalry units grew so fast that there were whispers that some in court began to worry Azan was going to run out of horses. The economy was sinking at an alarming rate, with the azanese treasury running the risk of ending up empty if the war continued like that. The rate of taxation was ruinous, and many areas began threatening with secession if everything continued, and only the threat of the witchelven kept many under control.
>>88192980Fortunately, a series of events to the west would allow Azan to recover their initiative in the war. The Second Elven Empire was showing signs of having grown too big, too fast. While its armies had evolved into a terrifying force, its ruling bodies were not particularly effective. With laws and administrative bodies not accepted between all drow, much less all vassals from other species, the infighting began ramping up. And while the order was well established during the rule of Celia II, in 1.948 ABE, Celia II was murdered during a public show. She was shot in the heart with an enchanted arrow, launched from an unknown position. To this day, nobody knows who ordered the hit or why, but the death of the drow leader sent shockwaves throughout the empire. The crown was inherited by a series of weak emperors, all while the drow generals and nobles gained more and more power for themselves. With this, the war strategy became more and more erratic, with the most notable incident being the abandonment of the troops in Wanaidheain. Isolated at the other side of the sea and without reinforcements, the drow troops were slowly pushed back by guerrilla forces, with a growing weight of rogue wizards. By 1.950 ABE, the drow troops left Wanaidheain to its fate. The same thing happened to the human lands to the north, where many human lords had resisted the drow and were pushing back the drow to the south. Fights began breaking up between drow nobles, and it quickly became obvious that the empire was crumbling. To avoid the fall of the drow and to keep as many gains as possible, after the murder of the seventh emperor, the drow nobility reunited and decided to officially dissolve the empire. In 1.957 ABE, the Second Elven Empire was officially done. At the same time, the drow nobles organized a pact with Azan to allow them to focus on stabilizing their domains.
>>88192998At the end of 1.957 ABE, the Treaty of Terusia between Azan and the Drow Confederacy was signed, with Azan accepting the existence of the Drow Confederacy and recognizing their territorial losses in Scimitarian in exchange for peace. While this was a deal that highly benefited the Drow Confederacy, the simple fact was that Azan needed to focus all their efforts to the east desperately, and thus had no choice but to accept this deal.
>>88193019In the other side of Giantstep, things were only slightly better. For many decades, the decaying Khenomeric Empire had struggled to keep its northern half under control, inexorably losing territory. However, after the independence of Nogar, the lack of direct ports between the two halves left a massive weakpoint in khenomeric politics. At first, this didn’t affect the north that much, since they were busy dealing with their usual debates about the rights of the wizards. However, the growing tensions between north and south and the lack of effective power from Khoraqualumum meant that the number of people arguing for independence grew faster and faster. In 1.940 ABE, the Great Rebellion took place after a series of cases of corruption from Khoraqualumum representatives in the north were discovered. The lack of response made the protests grow and grow, which finally ended with a formal declaration of independence. The Khenomeric Empire, exhausted by centuries of dealing with their northern territories, and focused on keeping their own lands in one piece, quietly accepted the declaration, meaning that the Northern Khenomeric Empire became its own state, even if, in the end, didn’t last long.
>>88192665>year 1.935 ABE.1.957 ABE. Ups.Also, I'm not sure how to end the Witchelven War. I was going to say the witchelven fell with the disappeareance of Morwenna, who crossed to the succubi dimension and left the mortal realm, but the wiki page says she's still around. Any lore-accurate suggestions?
>>88193053the war with the witch-elves never really endsthey took more territory early on than I originally envisioned, but I guess Azan can take some of it back, only to lose it again in the Azan-Changrila civil warafter that they remain a thorn in the side of both Azan and Changrila, but their focus switches from conquest to acquiring occult power
>>88194786>they took more territory early on than I originally envisioned, but I guess Azan can take some of it back, only to lose it again in the Azan-Changrila civil warYeah, I was thinking that the years after the peace treaty with the drow were of full on militarization, using every possible energy to push back the witchelven as much as possible. They might have won, if only the azanese civil war hadn't started and crippled the empire.Also, from this point on, Azan is going to lose territories fast. Most of the territories marked as Azan do not have an independence date, so I guess most they all progressively go away and I can just fill up the gaps.
>>88194939>Most of the territories marked as Azan do not have an independence date, so I guess most they all progressively go away and I can just fill up the gapsMost of them have some sort of explanation when and why they left even if the exact date isn't givenAlso Asvaran should have been colonized a while ago at this point
>>88195136>Also Asvaran should have been colonized a while ago at this pointSince it said they had been indpendent almost from their creation, I guess they do not really appear in the exact years of the maps.
>>88193053Hmm... Returning from death like Jesus?
>>88199972Nothing in their lore suggests that. Plus, we already have undeath. Resurrection might be one step too far.
>>88200010The portal to the rape layer of hell is like a walk away from their capital xhp4a
>>88195136>Perhaps as a result of being initially settled by peasants who were kicked off their land, the Asvaran Confederacy was never particularly loyal to the Azan Empire>However, the Confederacy never rebelled (...) remains technically a part of the Azan Empire to this daySo which one is it?
Ok, so a quick draft of the next historical map, the one at the beginning of the Azanese Civil War. Since the drow are too busy bickering between themselves and the witchelven will eventually be somewhat pushed back by Azan, the focus of this map will be how the azanese civil war starts. There is not that much info of the Azanese Civil War in the wiki, the Azan and Changrila only mentions it happens. The most info I have found is in the Red Lotus page. So, unless someone can direct me to some written lore, I'll have to fill the gaps.Also, a couple of things I want to find.>Main cause of the civil warI had thought of tensions between the changrilese nobility and the azanese emperors, seeing the emperors as poor leaders that almost let Azan fall to the witchelven and the drow. But maybe this is too simplistic and needs expanding.>How did the civil war start?Was it a coup attempt? A declaration of repudiation? What? It was not a declaration of independence, since the changrilese nobles wanted to rule the whole empire.>How was the fight justified to the population?>How many territories did support Changrila/Azan?>How many territories used this chance to secede?>How did the foreign nations react?I know the drow stayed aside, the gokmavi fought for Changrila, and the witchelven did what witchelven do. But what about the remaining faerie lords? The growing human lands north of Scimitarian? >How was the fight in the seas?
>>88200026Maybe she appears every couple of centuries from the succubi dimensoon?
>>88172594>>88172601I'll add all of this to the wiki later.
>>88200224probably loyal to Azan but mostly for mercantile reasons as the core of the Azan Empire is too far away to have a heavy political influence on them anyways>>88201067Lorient says neutral and separates during the war, Nasr allies with Changrila, then separates afterwards nations in north Scimitaria are either rebelling against the drow or declaring independence from both the drow and Azan at this pointlands behind the hedge are probably pretty quiet now, the only noteworthy thing they do from this point forward is drive azan and the dwarves out of the baalps with gibberlings
>>88206406>probably loyal to Azan but mostly for mercantile reasons as the core of the Azan Empire is too far away to have a heavy political influence on them anywaysOh, ok. So it doesn't matter that much that tgey don't appear as Azan in the maps.
>>88206406>Lorient says neutral and separates during the war, Nasr allies with Changrila, then separates afterwardsSo would the entire peninsula secede by the end of the war?>the peoples of the hedge drive azan and the dwarves out of the baalps with gibberlingsWhy would they? The witchelven are still too close to the Baalps for safety.
how old would the sea of bile be?
>>88207518Legendary times old. Probably even older than the being named the Maw.
>>88207558>>88207518Can we have some new stuff? The sea of Bile is a decomposing corpse. It in the very least has to be young enough for it all to not have been eaten.Was anything major or earthshattering established the last 50 years? W
>>88208194true, but how would people know about its existence, or at least its connection to a mythical being known as the "Leviathan"?
>>88207139>So would the entire peninsula secede by the end of the war?probably>Why would they? The witchelven are still too close to the Baalps for safetyWhy wouldn't they, they are far from defenseless, and if the Azanese can't defend their land from gibberlings it is not like they are going to keep the witch-elves out either
>>88208194The Sea of Bile is so old that many species have had time to evolve to feed off the bile. This is definitively not new.
>>88211730The species did not evolve. They're parasites which came down with the corpse
>>88208194>Was anything major or earthshattering established the last 50 years? The land of the Blind Bastard, the fall of the comet of the Lord Descended are two big events of the last 50 years.
dwarf fairies, like fairies, but shorter and stouter, into mines and metals, a bit more physically robust that regular fairies, dwarven autism+fae fuckery
>>88214785thy also steal dwarf's socks sometimes, just cause they can
>>88214785We really ought to stop adding sentient species. We need to develop the ones we have as it is. Also, we still need to fill the bestiary and the herbarium (the wiki pages are not that updated).
So I've realized that there is no description of humanity. Maybe it's a bit redundant, but maybe it could serve as an example to describe the other different races. >Humans (Humanity)Humans are an ape-like sentient species prevalent in all continents of the world. They have four extremities, a pair of arms and a pair of legs, used to walk upright. Their arms end up in hands, with digits very adept in manipulating the environment around them. Their legs end up in feet, and due to their metabolism they are capable of resisting long periods of walking. They are a sexually dimorphic species, with males being slightly bulkier and taller than the females. Their average size is between 1.55m-1.65m in women, and between 1.65m-1.85 m in males. Most of their sensory organs are located in the head, with a pair of eyes, a pair of ears, a single nose and a single mouth with only one tongue. The only sensory organ outside of the head is the skin, used for their sense of touch to detect temperature and pressure. Their skin can be covered in a thin layer of hair, denser in certain points such as the top of the head or the genital areas, but never as dense as many beastfolk species. Their senses are considered average in comparison to many other sentient species: their eyesight and hearing are not as good as those from elven races, their touch is not as good as that from dwarves, and so on. However, their good range of sensory organs allows humans to adapt to many different environments that could be daunting to other species.
>>88216407Human reproduce sexually, with the females giving live birth after around 9 months of gestation. Human infants are particularly vulnerable during the early stages of their lives, reaching sexual maturity around the age of 16. During the early stages of their lives, the physical and intellectual growth of humans is extremely fast, allowing them to gain knowledge and experience at an accelerated rate, capability that goes down overtime. Humans have a wide variety of forms of organization, ranging from familiar groups in small tribes to complex civilizations that encompass multiple ethnic groups. The sheer diversity of human societies make trying to establish an average a rather difficult task. In general, though, humans tend to center around in family units, with monogamous marriages being the norm for most human cultures. Human reproduction is also notable due to their capability of reproducing with a limited number of non-human species, though the result of this union is overwhelmingly sterile.
>>88216420Humans do not have a natural affinity to magic. However, they are capable of considerable feats of magic once trained in the arts. Many human societies have studied magical arts and have become quite adept to them. They are also one of the species better suited for undeath, with the gnolls being the only species easier to bring into undeath.
>>88216429Modern estimations point to humans numbering more than half of the total sentient individuals in the world (these estimations usually do not take into account the gnoll, due to their massively swaying populations, and the difficulty of estimating their total numbers, or some obscure species of fey that barely have any contact with the rest of the world). This enormous prevalence can be explained for a number of factors, mostly due to their general physiology and omnivory. The human body tends to be extremely resilient, capable of healing from grievous wounds and still work effectively. Their stamina regeneration is also remarkable, being able to resist heavy physical activity for very long periods of time. If we compare them to dwarves, humans have a less bulky and potent physique, but they will be able to work for much longer than dwarves, especially where walking is concerned. Likewise, elven speed and reflexes are usually superior to that of humans, but their frailer bodies take exhaustion much worse, easily hurting themselves if they do not rest. The ability to sweat also allows them to resist higher temperatures and to balance their body temperatures, something only a couple of other species can do. Their dexterity is one of the highest of the known species, only struggling when working with items much smaller than their hands. Their bodies also allow them plenty forms of traverse different environments, being capable of becoming great swimmers and climbers. These characteristics allow humans to become great survivors, which is why they have occupied near all environments in the step. However, humans tend to prefer plains where to practice agriculture, herding and to build their cities. They do have problems inhabiting dense jungle and high mountains, and are completely unable to live in deep underground (due to breathing problems and their senses not being adjusted to the darkness) and under the sea (humans cannot breathe underwater).
>>88216438Humans are also incredibly omnivorous, capable of surviving on very diverse diets when other species have much more limited options for food. While the human ability to properly digest certain foods is discussed, they are capable of obtaining nutrition from most organic elements. Their ability to eat is surpassed by species such as ogres and snoloths. Cannibalism is not only frowned upon in human society, but it is actively detrimental to the human organism, whereas species like ogres and snoloths can eat their own without issue (social taboo notwithstanding). They cannot process certain plant-based products, as well as those that contain certain levels of poisonous defenses.
>>88216449The origins of humanity are discussed. Each of the different human societies have develop their own tales of how humanity came to be. Most non-humans, however, particularly the fey, share a similar story. They believe that the first sentient species were a result of the gods trying to create the perfect race to populate the world. Using bits of different creatures and parts of themselves, each of the gods created a perfect species for each of the areas of the world, throwing away the unused parts as waste. However, once the gods left the world, the unused parts of creation joined together and resulted in humanity. With bits of all gods combined, and with the gods’ view far from the mortal realm at the time, they were able to spread quickly throughout the world, becoming the dominant species. The only areas they could not live in were undersea and underground, due to the gods having used up all of those parts.
>>88208194If a massive leviathan fell from the sky and the impact sank an entire continent, as stated in its lore, there would be massive implications afterwards. Plus, that'd mean adding a continent to interact with the rest of the world. This only fits if it happens in prehistoric times.
Requesting more lore on the scatomancers
>>88219979scibby dibby dibby dom bodomp bom
what is mossovy based on?
We still need to fill out the capitals list.
>>88223863Is Elfwood a regular state? Do the fey lords have a capital?
>>88227697BEE BA DA BADA BOMBA DA BADA BOM
>>88224110I mean, something in particular.
Where is the map of azan?
>>88229711Anon I, ...
>>88201067Here we have an approximation of the world's great powers right at the year 2.027 ABE.By the year 1.957 ABE, the Treaty of Terusia guaranteed the much needed peace to the east for Azan, allowing them to pursue their war with the witchelven free of threats from the west. This, alongside a series of military reforms, saw the nation finally gaining some ground against the witchelven. Decades of war had hardened the resolve of the nation, and tens of thousands of refugees were conscripted, hungry for vengeance against the witchelven that butchered their friends and family. The azanese army, having become lethargic before the war, had become an experienced fighting force once again, at the expense of many lives. Using techniques similar to the Gökmavi, the azanese army began training mounted units capable of quick responses. Using hit and run attacks, the azanese armies baited the witchelven armies to pursue, wherein the heavy troops would surround the witchelven, gaining ground and blocking the retreat of the witchelven. This was a slow tactic, since the witchelven were a difficult foe to catch, but slowly but surely the azanese armies began gaining ground. This strategy was also helped by the fact that decades of war had left the witchelven short of manpower. Despite their deprave form of life and high birth rate, the truth was that the witchelven nobles did not particularly care for the lives of their soldiers. They would have no problem sacrificing them to the enemy if it allow them to obtain a victory through attrition, or to escape a trap. And while the numbers of the witchelven were high at first, carelessness for the lives of their soldiers made them take more losses that they could replenish. Combined with the beginnings of fights between nobles (which ended with Morwenna ordering the execution of some of her generals), and the war began turning in Azan’s favor.
>>88233080However, this strategy meant a slow grind for Azan, instead of the decisive victory the population desperately needed. After decades of war in two different continents, the population was exhausted, with all families having lost at least a son to the war. The economy was in ruins, and many fields were abandoned due to the lack of manpower, becoming recovered by nature. Many cities laid in ruins, burned and pillaged by the witchelven. Other had turned from beautiful centers of arts and sciences to grim fortresses of rock and stone. The slums of all cities of the empire were filled with beggars, cripples and orphans of war. Crime skyrocketed, and law became brutal and strict to account for that. The armies were exhausted, and only the constant arrival of new recruits stopped a collapse of the front. Needless to say, this situation was extraordinarily hated by all subjects of the crown, and this slowly grew dissatisfaction. Many areas felt that they were paying a disproportionate price for the defense of the empire, while others believed that the accolades of war were falling on the wrong people, leaving the more deserved heroes dead and unsung. Many are simply tired and need to let time heal the many wounds, and feel the long fights have nothing to do with themselves. And a great amount of this frustration fell upon the azanese emperor.
>>88233107The figure of the azanese emperor had been a figure of awe and adoration for centuries. Continuing the duty of the legendary hero Azan, and ruling a massive extension of the world, from west to east, he had been adored by the populous, with the different dynasties maintaining the magnificence of the empire, not only defeating the other great empires of the world, but also bringing civilization and prosperity to all lands of the empire. However, this image was only for the common folk. The nobility, the high ranking officials and the general elites of the empire do not share this vision, knowing the more human flaws the emperors and their families can hide to the rest of the populi. And for the entirety of the 20th Century, a lot of discontent had been growing wit the azanese emperors. The lack of readiness for a war, with the armies being untrained and unprepared, had been bad enough, but ignoring the warnings of the troops at the borders had allowed a potentially easy to solve problem to fester into an existential threat. Not only that, but the investments on Scimitarian, many of which had been opposed by most of the nobility, had ended up in ruins after the drow uprisings. Not only the emperor had failed to take down Celia and avenge the dead nobles during the drow uprisings, they had managed to turn the tables and expel Azan from Scimitarian and Wanaidheain, having to accept a costly treaty favorably to the drow. And most damning of all, many saw the emperor’s leadership during the war against the witchelven as incompetent, having allowed the witchelven to drag Azan to a decades long war against an enemy that previously limited themselves to raiding the borderlands. While noble borders, those more affected by the witchelven, weren’t particularly threatening, the depth to which the witchelven got into the empire meant that even high nobility got their power and property threatened.
>>88233121Adding to that a growing economic crisis, and the nobility’s trust in the imperial authority had eroded considerably.
Remove Azan fom everything please
Write in Ice Spice as a queen of Azan
>>88201067When the Sixth dynasty rose and centralized the chaos of the late 5th dynasty a lot of their support, focus, urbanization etc was in the north. Southern resentment at this eventually blossomed I to the fall of the 6th and rise of the 7th dynasties.I believe the Civil War was an extension of this North-South tension in the Empire.
>>88226562probably not, but maybe there is a traditional neutral meeting spot or something>>88231271here
>>88235931Could you elaborate on that? There is little info on the Azanese Civil War on the wiki, and I have to infer a lot of information from very little lore. I refer to >>88201067 for some of the questions.
>>88236705Oh no USA states
>>88239029>>88236705Ice Spice is from NY, so that's like what Lucapena?
>>88236801I'm trying to see where I got that from. I remember reading about the North getting more development than the South so I wrote the rise of the 6th Dynasty with that in mind.The Rebellion that led to the 7th Dynasty being southern led was detailed here. It even gets named "The Southern Rebellion" (Which in retrospect was an unintended similarity to the CSA)https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/86662491/#q86762016https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/86662491/#86758951https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/86258892/#86273938
>>88240131So basically, during the transition of the Scholar's Revolution from the 5th Dynasty to the 6th one, the emperors focused a lot of the authority and the power in the central provinces around Nanakinor. And that ended up to the detriment of other areas of the empire, losing their respective privileges and powers. Is that it? I think I can add it to the growing military weight from Changrila since the rebuilding of the navy in the south of the empire, and since they are the most populous part of the empire, they also probably took more losses than anyone. But I still think it needs more to justify a rebellion like that, especially since Changrila has been a part of the empire since the beginning.
>>88240349By the late 5th Dynasty the "Empire" was in name only, it was functionally and assortment of independent states that all were rivals with each other and in worse case scenarios went to war against each other.The Scholar's Revolution and the Sixth Dynasty it founded was an English Protectorate/Society Revolution style year zero where they basically rebuilt the empire from scratch in the image of their philosophy on the backs of a printing press powered Beurocracy and a church embedded scholar class.When they did this rebuilding, local titles were abolished, they probably pushed a single language and history (and used the printing press to propagate it) and in general standardized the Empire under one vision, that due to cultural biases was very Northern centered. Like I guess Imagine if the Midwest tried to force the entire USA I to it's image, but more extreme.There is a lore gap between that starting point and the rebellion that led to the 7th Dynasty and then further lore gaps to how that metasized to the Civil War but that was a core root of the issue,
>>88240675>There is a lore gap between that starting point and the rebellion that led to the 7th DynastySo what exactly caused the Southern Rebellion? Lore says there are sparce records of the events, but if the 6th dynasty managed to stop the crisis of the previous one and unified the empire, what exactly motivated a rebellion? And how did it win to start the 7th?also>used the printing press to propagate itThat really makes me want a chronology of the evolution of tech in the world. Things like the printing press, gunpowder or ships able to sail long distances can affect history greatly.
>>88240850>6th dynasty managed to stop the crisis of the previous one and unified the empire, what exactly motivated a rebellion?The 6th dynasty stopped the Chaos of the 5th Dynasty by forming a new regime that (among other things) centered power in the north.That led to tensions that eventually boiled over into the Southern Rebellion
>>88236705Where is Essakor? The lore says it's in the heartlands region, but I don't see it on the map.
>>88233121In particular, the provinces of the Changrila region were the ones that showed the highest amount of protest against the crown. The lands of Changrila had been traditionally the most densely populated in all the empire, with the great Hiuan Tsi River feeding millions of people, thanks to the massive crop yields in the area. It had also grown to be a center of craftsmanship and trade, essential to the growing weight of trade with the east. This allowed them to be instrumental to the azanese economy, with the city of Fenqui rivalling Nanakinor in power and prestige. However, the southern part of the empire had been suffering a progressive loss of power at the hands of the imperial administration. Since the rise of the 6th Dynasty, the local powers and privileges had begun to concentrate in the capital, canalizing a lot of the benefits of that to the north at the cost of the south. The attempts of centralization weren’t limited to law and administration: things such as language and culture were also used to homogenize the empire. This generated quite a lot of dissatisfaction within the region, and was countered by a push to distinguish changrilese culture from the mainline azanese one. And while the reaction in Nanakinor was one of indifference to this, they failed to see the frustration this reaction was proving.
>>88244935The situation didn’t improve over time. The increasing weight of the changrilese economy in the overall economy was growing, yet their privileges and local laws and government bodies weren’t respected by the capital. The Southern Rebellion that managed to establish the 7th dynasty did not change the balance of power. Even when Changrila had to take on the task of the repairing and rebuilding of most of the azanese fleet by Changrila throughout the 15th century ABE, they did not see the admiralties positions in changrilese hands until much later. This naturally caused quite a lot of tensions between the changrilese nobility, seeing their chances of advancement cut short over and over. However, while the nobility was growing frustrated by the behavior of the imperial administration, the common folk still saw the emperor as a figure of awe. This began changing with the war against the witchelven. From very early on, the witchelven began threatening the lands near the Hiuan Tsi River and the Handprint Mountains, filled to the brim with agricultural towns and small cities. The changrilese dedicated enormous efforts to push back the witchelven, suffering tremendous losses both in battle and during raids to the civilian populations. The population of Changrila pushed back hard against the witchelven at any chance they had, beginning the construction of the Great Wall of Changrila after the Treaty of Terusia allowed them to focus their troops to the east. Many troops died defending the walls during their construction, and it is said that the dead were so plentiful that the dead were used as mortar.
>>88244955However, throughout the war, more and more men were moved to the north, with the argument that defending the capital was essential to the war effort. Thus, the Great Wall project would not be finished until after more than a century later. This made the population feel that the capital was prioritizing their own personal safety over theirs, causing feelings of betrayal to flourish. The longer the war lasted, the more many people saw the emperor as incompetent, and wished to be replaced by a capable leader that could put an end to the witchelven once and for all.
>>88244963I want to be careful when writing this, since the azanese civil war is one of the most important events in the setting. So I have a couple of questions that maybe have been answered before (and if they have, I haven't found them):>Who exactly started the movement against Azan? Was it spontaneous, or was it planned?>How did the civil war start?>What was the reaction of the different provinces?>How was the fight justified to the population?>How did the war stagnate enough to last from 2.027 to 2.181 ABE even after near a century of constant war?>Did the different species play a particular role?>How was the fight in the seas?Also the questions in >>88201067
How come even after how long this project was up the Gloria -Etalia wiki is still way better organized?
>>88246781proof or didn't happen
>>88245288>the azanese civil war is one of the most important events in the settingSays who?
>>88244955>The Southern Rebellion that managed to establish the 7th dynasty did not change the balance of powerHmmm.. what if a lot of Changrilese fought in the Southern Rebellion, thinking that it would lead to more freedom and rights , but the 7th Dynasty created a "Fourth of You Lie" effect where they bleed for "freedom" that they never got to enjoy?
>>88247886Look at the effects. Azan, the biggest empire in the world, is reduced to less than half of its original size. It is the birth of the Changrila Empire. It allows Nosso Lar to become isolated. Without the war, Azan would have probably wiped out the witchelven. Its effects are crucial to understand a lot of the history of the world.
>>88246781They probably had more wiki volunteers. We have like 4-5 peole at most working at the wiki.
>>88242127someone put them in the following locations, which seems reasonable>>88245288>Who exactly started the movement against Azan? Was it spontaneous, or was it planned?>How did the civil war start?Generals from Changrila tried to stage a coup, and when that didn't work, the survivors fell back to Changrila and managed to win enough popular support to sustain a civil war.>What was the reaction of the different provinces?>How was the fight justified to the population?It initially was a power grab by those who thought they could run things better than the hereditary Emperor and his inner circle, but it wouldn't have turned into a full fledged civil war without support from local elites in many southern provinces who still felt overlooked by the ruling class, who were heavily concentrated in what is now modern Azan. It was essentially a war between those who wanted more power, and those who wanted to defend what power they had (and their respective followers/employees/mercenaries). However, many nobles and most of the commonfolk would have seen the war as pointless and wasteful (the part you added where Chagrilan commonfolk were bitter about heavy losses against the witch-elves seems reasonable and fits well with their later lore though). >How did the war stagnate enough to last from 2.027 to 2.181 ABE even after near a century of constant war?Probably both sides tiring themselves out but refusing to sign a treaty >Did the different species play a particular role?The main players in the war are all human dominated nations>How many territories did support Changrila/Azan?>How many territories used this chance to secede? see >>88206406 and >>88208733>>88248158Changrila seems more orderly and uptight than Azan, so the Southern Rebellion was again mostly about which group of elites were in charge, with a side dish of theological clashes to muddy the waters
>>88247886Azan Simps do
>>88250241Should we put a name to the names of the remaining cities?
>>88250241The Southern Rebellion was led by commoners.
>>88250241So the grey areas are more autonomous provinces? What about Thedgraek?
>>88253892>The Southern Rebellion was led by commoners.The only thing I could find on Southern Rebellion leadership was that there was several "warlords and chiefs" claiming to be Emperor, so I imagine most of the leaders of the rebellion were ex-generals and b-list regional nobles, which makes sense as in the real world it is rare for a true nobody to lead a successful revolt>>88258101>So the grey areas are more autonomous provinces?yes, they are described as "Special Territories" on the wiki>What about Thedgraek?As per the wiki, it is a dwarven vassal kingdom to Azan
>>88259465https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/86150840/#86188704>Because the House of Bellicus was originally of common stock, there was some debate as to who the founder of the dynasty actually was, especially since a canonical list of the emperors who lead The Southern Rebellion wouldn't be locked down until the present day. As a matter of dodging the question, Li, the semi-mythical ancestor of all Antaran Warriors (Several of whom fought in the Rebellion) was chosen.
>>88260103>Because the House of Bellicus was originally of common stock, there was some debate as to who the founder of the dynasty The wording on this always confused me a bit. I assume it means that Li's ancestors and descendants are known, but that due to the large number of rival Emperors during the rebellion, it is unclear which member of the Bellicus line should be treated as the first true Emperor.Or perhaps someone retroactively deleted records so it is unclear who House Bellicus descends fromEither way, the "warlords and chiefs" text plus the infighting still suggests to me that the Southern Rebellion was led by professional soldiers and minor nobles, rather than a true grassroots populist rebellionAlso, just a reminder to the timeline guy that the Southern Rebellion and the Azan-Changrila Civil War aren't the same thing.
>>88260504The House or Bellicus aka the Seventh Dynasty wasn't originally nobility. Because they didn't have a mythical noble founder like Cemak or the like they just picked the semi-mythical Li the Hardy as their dynastic founder.
>>88261615So was Li from an earlier time period than the Southern Rebellion? Or did the Seventh Dynasty claim to be descended from him well after the fact? Or is Li a symbolic founder?Because during the early days of the Seventh Dynasty House Bellicus would be able to trace their ancestry pretty easily at least a few generations, so they (and anyone else that mattered) would have a fairly good idea of which of the rival Emperors they descend from
>>88236705I love this
>>88260504What are the dates for the Southern Rebellion?
>>88259465>which makes sense as in the real world it is rare for a true nobody to lead a successful revoltMakes sense.
>>88264313It would have been sometime between the 6th and 7th dynasties, which has been tentatively pegged at around 600 ABE
>>88269129So would it be correct to put the date in 606 ABE?
>>88262438Li the Hardy is the semi-mythical ancestor of the Antaran Warriors . Li was never an Emperor or anything. It's like how various tribes and groups in the Greco Roman world would claim descent from a an Argonaut or a Trojan war vet or something.
>>88269129Due note the 6th and 7th Dynasties overlapped for a time. (Technically the 5th and 6th overlapped for like a year)
>>88270619it probably lasted a while given there was multiple overlapping claims to Emperor-ship during the Rebellion
>>88271687Are we talking years or decades?
>>88271724I would personally leave it vauge until later lore required that detail to be filled in. Gives us more wiggle room down the line.
>>88271724probably decadesAlso, it looks like this thread is autosaging (which is weird since it usually takes 2 weeks for that to happen), so we will have to make a new thread soon
>>88271903Weird. Has it been happening to the previous threads? I can't remember the last thread that ended after 300 posts.
>>88271984some of the previous threads hit autosage after approximately 14 days
>>88244963This state of turmoil and discontent inevitably brought people into action. In particular, the House of Fenhu Xianhiao became the main force opposing the azanese emperor. The House of Fenhu Xianhiao was one of the biggest noble houses in Changrila, but over the course of the centuries, they had been losing fortune and prestige to the other noble houses. The war with the witchelven gave the house a chance to recover their lost glory, with many of their number leading successful campaigns against the witchelven, and even participated in some raids in witchelven territory that managed to capture some witchelven nobles, greatly boosting morale throughout the troops. However, this came at a great cost to the House of Fenhu Xianhiao, losing many of their members in the war. After a petition to the Imperial Court to ask for reinforcements to defend the southeast for the construction of the Great Wall was denied, even after a couple of bloody battles had battered the defenders significantly, the Patriarch of the House, Xuoyang Xi Fenhu Xianhiao, decided that the current emperor was not fit to lead the war effort. Thus, he began to secretly search for support to pressure the emperor into abdicating. He began organizing reunions with fellow changrilese nobles, scouting the opinions of his fellow compatriots to see their support. He was quickly able to reunite many supporters from the highest echelons of changrilese nobility, as well as from the army, since the resentment against the emperor had become pretty common among them.
>>88272789He took a couple of years to organize his movement, getting support and funding. His goal was to stage a bloodless coup that would take from power the imperial court and the emperor’s inner circle, replacing them with experienced military personnel. This would be done under the curtains, and in the eyes of the public, the emperor would abdicate due to health problems. Many historians still claim that Fenhu Xianhiao was still loyal to the azanese crown, and his goal was to make the emperor abdicate in one of his sons, which would be guided by council established by Fenhu Xianhiao until total victory was achieved. However, many in his council believed this was the chance to finally right the many wrongs Changrila had received from Nanakinor, as well as to obtain more power and prestige for themselves. Thus, at the eve of the Celebration of the Founding of the Nation, the coup that was planned failed tremendously, with more than half of the changrilese generals abandoning Fenhu Xianhiao. This meant that the coup failed, with little information coming out to the public about what happened that day in the imperial palace. All perpetrators were captured, publicly deemed as traitors and beheaded, with all honors and commendations stripped from them. The changrilese conspirators who had turned their backs on Fenhu Xianhiao then turned around and denounced the emperor, presenting Fenhu Xianhiao as a martyr who had been unjustly accused and executed, despite his efforts for the defense of the empire. They used the execution of Fenhu Xianhiao as the final pretext to declare that the emperor did not deserve to rule, declaring open revolt against the crown, and demanding a new emperor to be put in his place. This began the Azanese Civil War, which would last between 2.027 to 2.181 ABE.
>>88272798To the east, after the independence of the Northern Khenomeric Empire, the lands enjoyed a brief period of recovery. With the shrinking Khenomeric Empire not having to deal with the rowdy northern provinces, they instead dedicated their resources to reactivate their economy, with moderate success. The kingdoms to the east of the Khenomeric Empire also consolidated their territory, with the Ketlovian Kingdom recovering most of the lands they used to have back in ancient times, and the Kingdom of Nogar expanding to the north to push back against piracy, occupying the barren lands of the Izar Peninsula. The combined efforts of Ketlovia, Nogar and the Northern Khenomeric Empire began having an effect on piracy, though it would still take a long time to reduce it to manageable levels.
is the lore map complete?
>>88274423no one has added nation summaries for a while, it has mostly been history and biology stuff, I will probably do Gautlan tonight though