>>85887781
do what Disenchantment did

>>85887781
you can play it off as a vore thing

>>85887781
Don't be a macrofag

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>>85887781
Sentai figured this out a long time ago.
The players and villains going gigantic is their final form, and can only be done for the briefest of time periods

>>85887781
Make her a dude.

>>85887781
You cannot. Others can.

Stop thinking entirely in terms of fetishes.

>>85887781
>How can I put a giantess in my campaign without looking like a macrofag?

The trick is to not be a macrofag. If I put a giant lady in my game nobody will bat an eye.

If you do, all your players will correctly identify your fetish bait immediately.

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>>85887781
You can’t, but shit like that’s hard to hide. A cursory reading of The Witcher series makes it pretty blatant that Andrzej Sapkowski likes a fat set of tits. If you’re going to do it, you might as well own up to it.

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>>85887781
If you are one then just do it coward. If you're not, then set it in norse mythology or something

>>85887781
Is there in-world lore for giantesses, or are you just inserting it straight out of the blue?

>85891257
holy shit no one cares

>>85887781
Make them a feminine giant.

>>85887781
Depends on who you are playing with. If you are lucky, you can just do it and nobody will notice. Otherwise it will be impossible as giantesses are pretty well known because coomers ruin everything

>>85887781
go with the classics. send the players to steal something of magical importance from giant land.

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>>85887781
Don't make them pretty.

>>85887781
Why would you put a giantess in your campaign if you weren't a macrofag?
Do you really think you can disguise your misbegotten heritage? Noone will be deceived, macrofag.

>>85891879
I'm not OP but the only way to put shit like this in your game is to simply not care at all in the first place, not even to get gratification from it. Do it because you like it and it looks cool and leave it at that.
There will, however, inevitably be consequences for you unambiguous presentation of things that people fetishize sooner or later, even if you avoid any sexual context because you're a sperg.
I overheard one of my players discussing their plans to get art commissioned of the elf-vampire harlequin-pirate the party got their last quest from and I'm still unsure how to feel about it.

>>85891922
That's fine and good if your giantess looks like this >>85891722; but if OP had been thinking of a giantess like that, he wouldn't have had to make a thread about how to not pass for a macrofag.
The imagery and narration of fetish is derived largely from common and 'innocent' tropes, but it unmistakeably transfigures them into something sexualized. Which isn't a bad thing, but any savy person can tell fetish (or fetish-adjacent, or fetish-adoptable) art from non-fetish art of the same subject. OP asks specifically because he is a macrofag and wants to put sexy giantesses in his game, but doesn't want his players to know beyond reasonable doubt that he's a macrofag.
Or (much more likely) he's baiting.

>>85887781
Make her ugly and cruel

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>>85887781
Bet on your players still not knowing what macrophilia is

When my DM had to include something already known to us to be his personal magical realm (orc women) for legitimate story reasons, he preempted us by deliberately making the orc in question ugly and disturbing.

>>85891722
>pic related
>not pretty
I M A G I N E how much your sons could bench, squat, and deadlift if you managed to lock her down. The sheer, superhuman VIGOUR and BRAWN they would exhibit, absolutely gorgeous from a genetic perspective. Strong jawlines, wide shoulders, and thick forearms are the most attractive female traits there are, hips and --eyes-- coming in a close second.

>>85887781
You're clearly just a macrofag trying to not look like one. Just embrace it. If you're playing with friends then they'll probably be cool, if not then just don't do it. I can nearly guarantee, if someone includes their fetish in a tabletop campaign it WILL be obvious, so just get over it and do it or don't. Its your choice. Just try not to be a fucking coomer about it and you'll have fun even with the friends who aren't into it.

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>>85887781
No.
Do it anyway.

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>>85887781
By making them cool as well as waifu bait.

>>85887781
How can I put feet in my game without looking like a footfag? I just want everyone to have feet, even the women, but I don't want to look weird about it.

>>85887781
Make her an unsexy giant if you don't want people to think you have that kink.
But I guess that would defeat the point of it for you, macrofag.

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>Pathfinder #5, a comic book written by Jim Zub with art by Andrew Huerta and Jake Bilbao and colors by Ross Campbell and Mohan, was released in February 2013. The issue features covers by Erik Jones, Lucio Parillo, Matteo Scalera, and Tyler Walpole, and Pathfinder Roleplaying Game content by James Jacobs.
>The Paizo.com exclusive cover by Jorge Maese is an homage to the poster for the film Attack of the 50 Foot Woman by Reynold Brown.
>See also: Category:Artwork by Jorge Maese
why contain it

>Running a mecha game where the primary antagonists are a militaristic and matriarchal species of giant elves.
>Everyone is into macro so it's fine if they wear tight bodysuits and have big tits.

>>85887781
Keep them in solo games. I refuse to believe you are too retarded to just not be a macrofag in public or with friends.

>>85887781
Shit just do it. 99% of all the giants my party interacts with are women. Their culture views interacting with smallfolk as soft, undesirable women's work, and generally unmanly. So all the random merchants, diplomats, and mercenaries they've encountered have been women.
When a giant man does show up, you know damn well shit is about to go down, because unless he's some kind of fag, he's here to steal shit and take slaves.

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>>85898278
Get your own material

>>85898540
I did.

>>85898540
So it’s just gantz but with female aliens?

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>>85898557
I was more tongue-in-cheek joking about how much "Militaristic matriarchal giant space elves," gets around as a concept.
>>85898571
I have no idea what gantz is.

>>85898571
spoiler alert:
the giantess getting violated in gantz is actually being sexualized
the giantess porn actress in oku's following manga series gigant was also a sexualized giantess porn actress

>>85898608
Yes it’s pretty obvious what was going on with those two giants on the ship. Americans, every single time

>>85898586
>I was more tongue-in-cheek joking about how much "Militaristic matriarchal giant space elves," gets around as a concept.
It does?

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>>85898762
Well you're doing it. I'm doing it. I know damned well I've seen it crop up repeatedly in random /d/ fiction, even if I'd be hard pressed to track it down years later. I know at least one render artist that does it.

>>85898762
It's one of the ways you get to 'dominant female society of humanoid, giant aliens', just not the only one. Mine draw inspiration from a lot of things and I'm not too proud to admit that, but they've got enough going on to be 'different enough' from their contemporaries that my players, genre savvy and relative newbies alike, have been surprised.

>>85898762
Personally I blame the Meltrandi.

>>85888522
/thread

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>>85898801
True, and fair, but I'm not complaining.

>>85888634
does he? I don't remembre any main character being described having huge bazoogas

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>>85887781
>So this is the land of giants?
>Yes
>I expected you to be... taller...
>If it helps, our chieftain is a head taller than I am

>>85899693
Triss Merigold’s tits get brought up a few times for various reasons but I think it pays more to look into the descriptions of women who only “exist” for a few sentences or women who only truly “appear” a few times. We might not be talking anime titties but he’s not afraid to spend an extra drop of ink to describe things. The Grand Conclave at Aretuza and the dresses described come to mind there. Either way, I think it’s pretty clear which side of the tits vs ass debate he’s on.
This comes with the caveat that I’m not faulting him for any of it. It’s like seeing a fingerprint on a claymation character.

>>85888634
>Andrzej Sapkowski likes big tits.
I mean, you aren't wrong, but when it gets to this kind of level, it's a wonder how people get so aware to it.
Dude's a dude. Dudes generally like big tits. There are more odds that Andrzej likes big tits, then not.

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>>85887781
You could make her a GMPC to make yourself look like a microfag instead (while also opening multiple other cans of worms)

>>85887781
Who gives a shit, do it anyway, and have fun with it.
Do you know how often 6-10 foot tall women/beautiful men feature in MY games and game design? A LOT.

All I can say is you also need a reason. Be that in world lore, or only for the metalevel play experience. My mini-gt/gts npc's are that way because that's just what happens to a person after a thousand years of living in the Deepwoads and fighting monsters the size of buildings twice a day.

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>>85900127
Take picrel. I also have all my elves be androgenous/feminine beauties clad in glassy-like skintight armour that grows like coral and is a part of their being. The only way to see an elf fully without their armour, is to be someone they are absolutely comfortable around and open with.
Yes, it happens to be three of my more obscure fetishes, but it also fits the lore I gave them, and gave a more visibly obvious interest to them and their nature. They're like that for a lore, and game interest reason. They just also happen to be appealing to me.

>>85887781
The key is to make it something everyone can enjoy, and no, I don't mean just as a fetish thing (though if the rest of your group is into that, and is okay with such things in their games, you're on easy mode), but it DOES involve you being able to understand what about things your players find enjoyable
>Tl:dr, don't put it in just for yourself, and focus on trying to make something the players will find fun, not just titillate you

>>85887781
The entire setting is set in one. Think Ymir, but woman giant.

>>85887781
Don't make them attractive or flirty in any way.

>>85898586
>I was more tongue-in-cheek joking about how much "Militaristic matriarchal giant space elves," gets around as a concept.
DESU, mecha's one of the few ways to make giantess work for something that isn't porn. Sure, you could leverage RPGs or artillery, but there's something inherently comical about the image of a tiny man with a toy gun, no matter how powerful that gun is. Mechas, by virtue of size, neatly step around the issue. Hind brain too stupid for much else.

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>>85887781
Utilize all different variants and species of giant(esse)s.

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>>85887781
Make it monstrous. Not a monster girl, that's a dead giveaway that it is a fetish thing. It's a colossal monster that just happens to be female. The players won't be able to tell it's female by looking at it, even.

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>>85898586
>Huge Hana story wrap up never fucking ever
Dunno why the nigger behind it got his delusions of grandeur from? It was just a webcomic, maybe going for a graphical novel would've been alright but vidyas/cartoons? Get real.

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>>85902682
Eh, don't care for mecha a great deal, at least for my current setting's purposes. The way I have it the largest practical are comparable to Heavy Gears™. Smaller hardsuits are more common. The technology to build mecha the size of the aliens exists, but isn't really seen as having any significant military value.
Aliens can only wear body armor comparable to a relatively heavy IFV, so cover and reaction time are most of what they have going.
>>85903027
I've seen that one. S'pretty good.
>>85903760
Somehow never heard of it.

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>>85898586
>I have no idea what gantz is.
A weird manga/anime known for its suits and the fanservice.

Because this is an obvious giantess thread, I'll drop a link to a catalogue of size media I'm building. Huge Hanna is definitely something I missed, so thanks, anon for bringing it up. rentry co size-catalogue

>>85903978
Fair, I was just lamenting that the implicit association of small size with children/toys/unimportant things makes writing non-fetishy stuff hard. Want the tiny protagonist to drive somewhere themselves? They're racing around in a toy car. It doesn't matter how much you try to dress it up, so long as the default mental scale favours the larger, the smaller characters get fucked. In your case, it helps a little that in most battlefields, the ayys are relatively giant, so it's easier to think of them as kaiju/other and humans normal sized and serious, but it still gets a little comical when the ayys are allied.
>Aliens can only wear body armor comparable to a relatively heavy IFV, so cover and reaction time are most of what they have going.
I love your autism. Have you gotten around to posting the rules for that game you were playtesting? It's been a while since I've heard anything to do with legacyverse but I don't browse /tg/ as often these days.

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>>85904166
I think the thing that most insulates what I'm at from being 'too fetishy,' is taking it seriously and the fact the aliens have fleshed out cultures, and men that actually do things. As for toy vehicles there's certainly a perception. I enjoy recalling older fiction someone else wrote where the aliens encounter an attack helicopter for the first time and find it comically silly and backwards until somebody takes a space-hellfire through the chest. As well, re; Allies, I think that disconnect actually helps sell certain things, like the one Alien polity that's annexed human worlds so tehy'll have a recruiting pool in a few decades, off the realization they're rather disadvantaged at modern war.

I appreciate that my autism is appreciated. No, the rules haven't been posted much of anywhere, because development is on something of a permanent hiatus, as the person actually writing the rules decided she was done with it. Wasn't working out how she wanted, and after a lot of long delays, we've just sort of pivoted to sperging out about GURPS instead for now. I hope to return to it eventually, but the whole setting is somewhat shelved while I think over what I want to do. Mostly pivoting a return back to more loose B-fiction shit that I started with, after group autism about sci-fi shit carried it somewhere I didn't enjoy anymore. I've been playing Nebulous: Fleet Command and saw the trailers for Falling Frontier and went "Wait, why do I care that dust clouds and asteroid thickets aren't real? This is fucking awesome." Among other matters, in any case.

If you want what rules were done and the old playtest document, have at it. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1O1abfLTpGiFp1oORtoRj3xkRsfTm_T7Q-yD01NgSjuA/edit#
If I return to it I think I'll likely revisit much, including the initiative system which, while cool, is probably a bit too autistic. I might roll it into some bastard fusion of Nechronica AP and Infinity ARO stuff.

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>>85894945
>By making them cool as well as waifu bait.
DAMN STRAIGHT!
Though really, you just make them plain and not interesting.

>>85898278
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>>85898856
All we want to be~
Is someone who gets to see~
~A gi~ant Wo~man!

>>85900481
>Think Ymir, but woman giant.
I thought Ymir WAS a giant woman?!

>>85903396
>Make it monstrous.
Tsumugi Shiraui is proof that's not enough!

>>85904326
>I think the thing that most insulates what I'm at from being 'too fetishy,' is taking it seriously and the fact the aliens have fleshed out cultures, and men that actually do things.
Yeah, you have BORING stuff, your autism has given your Fetish/Magical Realm verisimilitude most creators don't even bother with.
This is why I champion the Slaaneshi way of Fantasy!

>>85904476
>Yeah, you have BORING stuff, your autism has given your Fetish/Magical Realm verisimilitude most creators don't even bother with.
Yeah, but verisimilitude can wrap right back around to more debauchery once you're deep enough.
There is a long string of autistic logic to why Jinyan businesswomen have fujos kidnapped and put to work in the yaoi farms.

>>85887781
Well, from the get go, you are violating one of, if not THE most important law of RPGs according to /tg/ : if any character is a not a white male fighter in brown, it's Magical Realm, everything that you care for must be destroyed before your eyes and then yourself.

So, this answers that, pretty much.

>>85904326
>I think the thing that most insulates what I'm at from being 'too fetishy,' is taking it seriously and the fact the aliens have fleshed out cultures
For sure, that helps. Honestly, it's pretty easy to avoid things being fetishy if you take the time to step back and think. For most, the fetish is an exaggerated form of femdom, so anything emphasising the role reversal, femininity & humiliation is immediately suspect. Furthermore, you can only really have femdom when two characters interact, and realistically, there's a myriad reasons why that wouldn't ordinarily happen. Everything from fear to pride to safety-minded bureaucracy will stand in the way of interaction unless you start piling on the asterisks. The exaggeration aspect can also be telling - giants can be a useful narrative tool because they can represent greatness and power (Macross did this wonderfully!), but go too far and the "being a giant" part consumes the character, showing preoccupation, obsession. Maybe I should write a guide for this.
>until somebody takes a space-hellfire through the chest.
The issue with those situations is that they come off as being cheap subversion for it's own sake. Like a throwaway scene where a dog sniffs a flower and the flower swells up and bites it. I suppose it's really down to the pacing that determines whether it's gag-like or mature, but it's still another thorn in the side for writers trying to escape the pit of tropes size media has fallen into.
>re; Allies
Ah, for that my intention was the closeness associated with allies accentuates the juxtaposition. Think a space elf taking a walk around a human military base - anything more casual than a quick march through edges towards the silly. On the field, have an elf sniper prone beside a tank, and the tank starts feeling a lot less impressive.
>development is on something of a permanent hiatus
A shame, but understandable. Looking forward to whatever you happen to create, regardless.

>>85904676
>but go too far and the "being a giant" part consumes the character, showing preoccupation, obsession.
Precisely. You make a character then make them big, not the other way around. And 'giants as a narrative representation of power and aristocracy,' is half the point imo as well.
>On the field, have an elf sniper prone beside a tank, and the tank starts feeling a lot less impressive.
The 'tism prevents me from registering this by not generally regarding a tank as 'impressive' to begin with. Or something you can dismiss as irrelevant because another thing is bigger. A guy's bigger than a Talon UGV, but it's still got a 249 and a rack of 203's on it.
Your perception of these scenarios as 'silly' is foreign, I guess. I really don't get it.
>Looking forward to whatever you happen to create, regardless.
I have no idea what that might be at this point, but I appreciate the vote of confidence.

>>85904838
>Your perception of these scenarios as 'silly' is foreign, I guess. I really don't get it.
It's something I've attempted to cultivate in myself. It's easy for someone neck-deep in a matter to see things with a distorted perspective. People raised on Tolkien and modern fantasy have a lofty concept of elves, but to a boomer in the sticks, "elf" could just as well evoke imagery of Santa's helpers. Giantessfags forget how absurd a situation is because we've been distracted by the fetish appeal and grown used to the typical conceits. For military matters, most people derive their perception from the hind-brain. Big people, big numbers, big weapons all speak of strength (WH40K breathes this aesthetic), even if the reality (typically) favours small squads of smaller people with compact weapons. A normie's going to be more impressed by a tank than a tank-buster.
So when writing, I try to consider how a disinterested boomer might interpret the situation because they are the ones most likely to be operating on subconscious biases and cultural baggage. Avoid scenes that echo Honey I Shrunk the X, don't try to emphasise masculinity of tiny characters, etc. all help to keep more serious stories on track. That said, SDF Macross, especially post-SW1, is an example of rolling with the punches and allowing some silliness to act as a lampshade.

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>>85904562
>Yeah, but verisimilitude can wrap right back around to more debauchery once you're deep enough.
>There is a long string of autistic logic to why Jinyan businesswomen have fujos kidnapped and put to work in the yaoi farms.
That's how it works in Real Life as well, people going through a lot of insane shit just to satisfy their Horny.
>>85904838
>Precisely. You make a character then make them big, not the other way around.
Indeed.

>>85905114
>That said, SDF Macross, especially post-SW1, is an example of rolling with the punches and allowing some silliness to act as a lampshade.
Ironic that it was the "normal" sized Idols that ruined the franchise...

>>85905114
Okay, I think I follow in that context.
I suppose then it's less not recognizing how it could be construed so much as a certain disinterest in writing for that crowd? Less here being steeped in macrofaggotry so much as militaria autism. If I'm writing rules that are trying to generate a vaguely 'correct' representation of futuristic combat, and have been chastised for including ELINT gear in my 'basic combat examples,' I have zero chance of appealing to normies and 40kids to begin with, so I just don't worry about it.
The target audience understands the giant elf likely gets BTFO at range by a camo'd brick of composite armor with a cannon sticking out of it. And I don't have confidence or, admittedly, interest, in easing anyone into some of these concepts otherwise.
It's sort of the the curse of staring too long into the abyss of contemporary warfare shit. There's no hope of explaining to John Q Public that World War II is dead and buried, and you just give up after a point.

All that said, I do find your advice extremely correct for more general audiences. Zero argument there.

>Avoid scenes that echo Honey I Shrunk the X, don't try to emphasise masculinity of tiny characters, etc. all help to keep more serious stories on track.
...people do that? Goddam.

>>85905438
Yeah, my ultimate goal is to bring non-fetishy size stuff into the normosphere so their collective might can develop the concepts the same way the core races have seen every possible interpretation, and let them churn out loads of shit for me to read because I actually prefer SFW stuff without fetishist pandering/fanservice.
>All that said, I do find your advice extremely correct for more general audiences.
Good to know I'm not full of shit. I haven't the care to post on city or the bravery to really shill my over-analysis blog so a lot of my musings have yet to be passed by another person.

>>85905824
>I actually prefer SFW stuff without fetishist pandering/fanservice.
You and me both. Most of the time, at least. The golden rule, imo, is 'don't put sex shit in if you wouldn't in the same context in a story without your kink.'
>Good to know I'm not full of shit.
If your objective is to inject something into the normosphere, I think you're on the right track.
Myself, I'm happy in my own 'tism corner.

Some folks lean away from smut, and some lean so far away from it that they come back around again with an excuse. Personally, I try to keep anything that would be 'too much' for something like an ecchi anime out of my sessions (for the most part, at least); having said that though, there's a lewd element to these games and the smut elements aren't entirely absent, even if they're toned down during the weekly sessions. I don't shy away from it, I just find people that want the same thing I do.

As for how it's all worked out? Well for -this- campaign... After about thirty (soon to be thirty-one) sessions and something like eight months from start to finish, the player(character)s are confronting one of the game's overarching antagonists. The rogue commander threatening peace with her space fortress is about to go down (unless she doesn't, but we'll see how things turn out), and then it's time for part two after a short break.

>>85899693
He specifically calls out sorceresses as only being considered skilled when they've turned themselves into living sex dolls. Dude's deep in his fetish.

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>>85905824
>I actually prefer SFW stuff without fetishist pandering/fanservice.
Same, but because we are "cursed" with this knowledge, we WILL seek it out no matter the Context.

A lot of the weirder fetishes you see on /d/ stem from common Cartoon Gags that happened to hit Anons at JUST the right time during their sexual development.
As we say here "Anything and Everything could be someone's fetish, roll for a new one!"

>>85906012
>You and me both. Most of the time, at least. The golden rule, imo, is 'don't put sex shit in if you wouldn't in the same context in a story without your kink.'
I'd say acknowledge and indulge a bit with a knowing wink, but if it goes much father than cursory exploration be ready to slam the brakes for the fast approaching precipice of the Magical Realm.

>>85906056
>Personally, I try to keep anything that would be 'too much' for something like an ecchi anime out of my sessions (for the most part, at least); having said that though, there's a lewd element to these games and the smut elements aren't entirely absent, even if they're toned down during the weekly sessions.
Yeah, like I said, "Knowing Wink" and ready the Breaks just in case!

>>85906093
>He specifically calls out sorceresses as only being considered skilled when they've turned themselves into living sex dolls. Dude's deep in his fetish.
True, but he's at least worked that into the World: To be that good at Magic you were probably passed over for other "opportunities," IE You were Ugly or Infertile.

>>85906191
Working it into the world doesn't mean shit. If I say that the myths of Romulus and Remus have inspired a tradition that all succession of kings comes from regents directly impregnating she-wolves through sorcerous bestiality, it really doesn't matter how much time I spend talking about the lineages and lore. It's still wolf fucking. Rothfuss pulls the same shit where the elves are the best at sex and so Kvothe learned the secret tantric elf fucking and now he's the best at sex, but it's still schlocky nonsense written by a literal real life dude for his real life fetish reasons.

>>85906191
He also worked wish rape into the world.

I'm not saying anything beyond Sapkowski prefers big baps. Which is wholly unsurprising, because with Polish women your typical choices are fatty with big baps or literal twig figure. Only when you're dealing with 7+s does there start to be a blending of styles.

>>85888666
I bow to the double tripfag!

>>85906425
Mythanon here. Not wolf fucking. The she-wolf nursed them to health after they were abandoned by the Tiber. There are actual cases of this, one of twins from India from 1926. Also Romans absolutely did do weird shit. Running around naked and slapping people with leather was one of these traditions. Saturnalia as a whole was just weird. So wolf fucking... Probably not. But laying with a wolf to prove and strengthen the spirit could be done. A test of manhood and courage, taming the wild beast. Through time the emperors, growing lazy and complacent, have the wolf captured and do it that way. Could be seen by some as the smart thing, by others as spiritual corruption and degradation.
It all depends on the amount of detail put into describing it and where. You can always get away with putting in your kinks. You just need to know how to word it properly.

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>>85906513
>The she-wolf nursed them to health after they were abandoned by the Tiber. There are actual cases of this, one of twins from India from 1926.
That's what I thought it was, still there is that one Eastern European Country, who I think make their claim to the Legacy of Rome via their founding tribes being born of She-wolves...

>Also Romans absolutely did do weird shit.
And they're STILL the ones everyone in Europe tries to claim they're the legitimate inheritors of!

>But laying with a wolf to prove and strengthen the spirit could be done. A test of manhood and courage, taming the wild beast.
Well what's a more epic expression of all that is MAN than taking the Wild Beast and reshaping it into a proper Wife?!

>It all depends on the amount of detail put into describing it and where. You can always get away with putting in your kinks. You just need to know how to word it properly.
Exactly, but the biggest issue that will crop up is recognizing when you're approaching that precipice of your Magical Realm, as your players can easily push you over it by innocently indulging it on accident.

>>85900109
I don’t quite think you’re picking up what I’m putting down. It’s not that he likes big tits. You’re right, probably 90% of straight men like big tits, it’s pretty much a given that can be safely assumed. It’s that he’s not avoiding the topic in his writing.
The point I’m making is that if one of the most acclaimed fantasy writers of the last 50 years isn’t hiding his tastes in his character design, then OP should stop worrying so long as he doesn’t turn the character description and presence into straight up /d/ tier material.

>>85906915
Strongest empire ever. We could argue British, but that was largest. It didn't have any significant technological or army advantage. Their navy was good but no greater than Spanish. We could argue Mongol, but while they were probably the fastest growing, definitely not as powerful and influential as the Roman. Many European languages and the whole culture are taken from Rome.

>Well what's a more epic expression of all that is MAN than taking the Wild Beast and reshaping it into a proper Wife?!
There's a difference between a beast and a beastfolk. Beast is definitely magical realm. If beastfolk exist and are wild then go for it. Then again... What if at one point some evil witch made it happen? Where before it was wolf, no crossbreeding, at some point a curse was laid and the then King spawned a bunch of them, that then tried to take over? A pack at first, but in a few years, a small army as the halfbreeds spread through other wolves. Though pushed back into the wilderness, it's now done to one of them. Taming them. Though you'd have to think of the political consequences of such a thing. Hell, maybe that's a plot point. That one of these halfbreeds is trying to take over as the firstborn, but people support the Human inheritor. You get to indulge and you still keep it mostly out of your player's. Polygamy can be justified though, through religion and polotics. Research polygamy in other culture and why it was done and justified through religion. It's a topic I don't know much about, but I can research a bit when I have time.

>your players can easily push you over it by innocently indulging it on accident
Well, that's when you have to hide your power level. Learn restraint. Practice it. That's really all. Just don't deviate from what you have written. Prewrite, don't add too many details, and don't deviate don't add details. If they ask something tell them there are no records, the person they're talking to doesn't know, or something along those lines.

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>>85909329
>Many European languages and the whole culture are taken from Rome.
And Rome wanted WOLF MOMMIES!

>Hell, maybe that's a plot point.
Honestly I'd be suppressed the Beast heir would be so easily discarded; He'd have all the Primal Strengths of his mother and probably could be raised to have the same wit and cunning of his father.
At the very least they'd have the potential to make a great Retainer once grown, you'd just have to foster loyalty to their Human Half-sibling least they murder them in a bid for dominance...

Of course, that runs the risk of enamoring the half-siblings TOO close together, and if the Beast were chosen as the rightful heir, would their continuing the Beast Laying Tradition result in a line of Kings becoming ever more Beastly?

>Well, that's when you have to hide your power level. Learn restraint.
I KNOW, but that's easier said than done, especially since the average /tg/ probably has some form of communications deficit or another.

>Just don't deviate from what you have written. Prewrite, don't add too many details, and don't deviate don't add details. If they ask something tell them there are no records, the person they're talking to doesn't know, or something along those lines.
Eh, that still seems a bit too ridged for good Game Mastering.
Like I said you can probably indulge a LITTLE bit, but any more than tipping of your Fetish will quickly result with you being in ERPG territory...

Ive thought of this myself since Im hashing out my own fantasy world that I can use in GURPS and maybe an asset-flip open world RPG I think I could make in Unity(the moron's choice for making games when you dont know how to make a game)
My idea is to not make them solely fetishistic. Theyre not all bodacious babes with wonderful personalities and are irrationally smitten with humans. But at the same time, there's a bunch who are. Basically, just make them like any other group of people.
Im doing this with furries as well so that if I ever make that game, I got the furfag audience. Also I like beast people like in Fire Emblem.

>>85887781
Why contain it? S'cool.

>>85909706
Well not discarded, but gone over. That's the risk involved here. If they are smart and strong, why NOT give them the throne? Or why haven't they taken it before? Then again, wolves are very social, so the idea of working together might be ingrained. I'm not a biologist though so I couldn't say. Either way, it's an interesting plot point and history to think about.
Well, my presumption was that if you start half your line stays half, no matter which way you go.

Eh. Fair. Just stick to what was written then and don't answer questions you haven't thought about. It may seem rigid, but it's better than letting on. Unless you're the type that actually doesn't care if people know. Weirdly, those people actually have an easier time including their kinks. They're comfortable enough to laugh at it if someone finds out, so they have leeway. Personally I've only played with them. I'm too vanilla to do stuff like that. Then again, one of my jobs is to study mythology, so you can imagine the stuff I've seen.

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>>85915520
>If they are smart and strong, why NOT give them the throne? Or why haven't they taken it before?
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/The-Ogre-Gods/

Since this thread is moving nowhere fast, can we discuss parataxis? Has anyone been inspired by it and added elements to their campaign? It's a severely under-appreciated work IMO.

>>85917919
I am unfamiliar with that, got a link/explanation?

>>85915520
Well on the becoming more Beastly line I was thinking something like this:

>>85916940
>https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/The-Ogre-Gods/
...Except instead of becoming horrible man-eating Monarchs, the successive Beast Kings have become more domesticated, so that the latest is basically a giant dog.

>>85923140
Choudennou Parataxis, https://www.mangaupdates.com/series/0htbeff/choudennou-parataxis . It's a somewhat obscure guro manga, but it stands out for its unusual storytelling and fascinating worldbuilding. It's super short, so saying much more would just be spoiling. Don't worry that it's guro - it's more body-horror than blood & guts.

>>85904476
>I thought Ymir was a giant woman
Only if you look at it through idk, Fate series or other weeb stuff.
Ymir is a dude, bro.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ymir

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>>85926726
Well I'm sorry weeb stuff pays more respect to ancient mythology than most ancient mythologist!

>>85904562
What the Hell is Jinyan?

>>85927006
It does the exact opposite, taking mythology but fetishizing it or changing it so it's barely recognizable. The issue with people who study mythology is, either they write fiction books, often YA fiction books, or they are incredibly boring to listen to, speaking in boring facts, research, and archeology, often with a monotone voice, pulling up pictures of pottery shards and half bleached pictures.

>>85928731
>What the Hell is Jinyan?
From context, we can perhaps assume it's a culture or polity from the worldbuilding the anon being replied to was commenting on, yes?

In any case, short version: "The imperial state of the giant space elves with the most flagrant martial bent, and most interest in the annexation or capture of human worlds and their talent/infrastructure."

>>85887781
It can be done, but not by you

>>85898540
You first, my mom's Macross at home

>>85928731
Don't engage it, that's the notorious nogames NiceDaemonette. The only game he's ever played is pretending to be a girl. He's fried his dopamine receptors to the point where he can only interact with traditional games as low grade porn parody fanfiction.

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>>85928731
>taking mythology but fetishizing
You've studied Mythology, you already know it's half fetishes!

>>85929726
What disgusting art.

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>mfw

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>>85929803

>>85930044
>redditbuddy

>>85929726
While there definitely is sex, a lot of sex, to say it's fetishistic is extremely reductive. Often these stories are more something to learn from rather than jack off to. Zeus turning into animals is more about how his sheer magnetism is enough to seduce any woman and also to establish a comparison to these things. The elegance of a swan, the strength of a bull, rich beauty of a shower of gold.
Loki turning into a mare and being pregnant is to show that he's not manly. It was less about sex and gender though, and more about behavior. Women could be manly by fighting and not any less women. Men could practice magic and not be any less man. Definitely less trusted though. It's a complex topic, and not one for 4chan or really the English language, as the terms used are less about gender and more about social standing and societal roles.
Humans having sex with animals is often a punishment not a reward, and the unnatural copulation results in monsters that plague the world.
Its really more about how sex has power over... Well, everyone. Men, women, beasts, even gods. But that too is a talk for another time and how Cupid became a child and baby, and how love and sey were seen in other mythologies.
The mythanon mail is around. If anyone has questions about mythology, contact me at mythanon12345@gmail.com or wait for another mythgen to pop up.

>>85930044
>Attacks only pleasing her
Why do you think they keep firing?

>>85887781
You could have, but the fact that you even know what those kinks are means you are too tainted.

>>85887785
What's that?

>>85931042
If you're even half as educated in "mythology" as you portray yourself, you know full fucking well to say it isn't fetishistic is equally reductive. So many of the stories that have survived are simply just descriptions of sexual intercourse with a god doing this or that as a frame work. It is straight up porn like you find on literotica just for an earlier age.

>>85887781
Keep her under 14 feet. Having them being the size of a skyscraper will get you discovered pretty quickly.

>>85931877
Let's define fetishistic here. Because often these arguments come from a two people using different definitions of words. Is there sex? Yes. Is that by itself fetishistic? Fetish for me would be something that is outside the norm of accepted sexual behavior for its time and place. A lot of Greek mythology stories, because let's stick to these for now, certainly are about sex, but they are relatively vanilla for what was accepted at the time. The weirder ones, the really fetishistic ones, aren't that common.

>>85932810
To add a thought. Is mythology sexual? Yes. Ho boy yes! It's not that much a joke that half of issues are caused by Zeus not keeping it in his toga. Or really anyone. A lot of issues are caused by sex. In any mythology. And that's the power of love and sex in mythology I talked about. Is it fetishistic? Sometimes.

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>>85932810
>>85932900
>>85931877
>>85931042
Meds, now.

>>85931848
Make everything ugly as fuck.

>>85898191
Giant sorcereress Panties!

She can revive dead players, by stuffing them into her uterus. They are reborn without a scar. That should let those macro fags know this in an unbirth game.

>>85930501
Baalbuddy has been posted here for a while before gaining his current fame.

Nigger.

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>>85899784
Weren’t biblical giants, what, 12 feet tall? It’s not that unprecedented

>>85942422
Angels were described as being even taller.

>>85942374
He always astroturfed from his reddit homebase, shill

>>85942422
Goliath is said to be six cubits and a span. About 10 feet and half. Nephilim from the non canonical book of Enoch are said to be 300 cubits tall, around 450 feet. In Islam, the people of Ad were said to be around 100 feet tall. Funny thing, in Islam they were not drowned in the flood, as they were too tall. Not much of a flood, if it's only 100 feet of water. But they were destroyed later when they didn't take the warnings of God seriously.

>>85944565
This reeks of mistranslation.

>>85942422
>biblical giants
Holy shit, just got flashbacks of nephilimfree, I wonder how that goofball is doing.

>>85944899
That's vague. Which part?

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>>85945835
>Nephilim from the non canonical book of Enoch are said to be 300 cubits tall, around 450 feet. In Islam, the people of Ad were said to be around 100 feet tall. Funny thing, in Islam they were not drowned in the flood, as they were too tall. Not much of a flood, if it's only 100 feet of water.
All of this. I don't believe anyone in the past believed this. Maybe the original writers were not being literal?