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too late at night for me to track down all the latest maps, just didn't want the old thread archiving without a new one, have some random potentially useful pictures instead

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>>85025429
or not so useful...

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>>85025443
Jibaro Sirens

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>>85025448
Wizard doing perfectly normal Wizard stuff

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>>85025458
Somewhere better have canals of giant goldfish

>>85025465
Id rather imagine such large fishes swiming in a rather cleaner (than pre industrial city sewer) Waters.

Bur nice pic.

>>85025361

I've been staring at maps for too long. The first thing I saw when looking at the OP image was the Persian Gulf.

gonna write some lore later today

>>85025465
What are some canal cities in this setting?

I know Florinth is the most obvious answer, it's a mix between Venice and Florence and it's built on top of a Lake (or lake islands?). Hithlone also has canals as its situated on top of a delta.

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Posting the updated maps.

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>>85026167
Ups, that's outdated. Here's the current biome map.

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>>85026179

So, with the physical and biome map pretty much done and the political map finally filled, we need to see what else we need to do:

-Political map with cities, nation's capitals, main roads and trade routes. Most nations and regions have little to no cities located on the map, even some of the big ones. We'd need number of cities, their location, capital if there's one, trade routes between the different powers... A city map would need to be made first before the trade one.
-An approximate general timeline of the world. Maybe a common mythology and cosmogony.
-How the flat world works: The night/day cycle, seasons, its relation with magic, how the Emptiness affects the world...
-Adding more lore to the more lacking spots. We could check the wiki for those places with very little lore.
-How the magic works. Does everyone have the potential to use magic? Or is it exclusive to some? If it is exclusive, who has it and why? Can wizards use all kinds of magic, or just some kinds?
-Filling the lore of the underground map.
Anything else we might need?

>>85026493
>Anything else we might need?
A scale. How big is this continent supposed to be?

>>85026507
The scale is in the physical map.

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Tell me about the world's cosmology.

>>85026493
~ Finishing the lists of 13 world wonders and the 13 world horrors
~ Coming up with the current leaders for every nation
~ Creating a Bestiary (either a pdf or a wiki)
~ Making a map for monster territories
~ Deciding on allies, peace treaties and states of war
~ Military power ranking
~ Making maps like the OP for the rest of the world
~ Adding pictures and lore to the wiki that has been overlooked so far
~ Deciding on a bbeg for this scenario (alternatively a ranked list of multiple villains)
~ Creating a Herbarium
~ Writing stories taking place in this world in order to flesh it out and soft-worldbuild it (the bobbit the hobbit one seems to be over)
~ Making an astrological star map
~ When everything is done: moving on the the next step on the staircase

>>85026594
you mean like zodiacs n shit?

>>85025465
this could be in florinth. someone write up some lore in these fish

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where could this big boi live?

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>>85025361
Do we have an "Island of Really Hot Babes" yet?

>>85026728
If you like thick frogwomen maybe the isle of pondling would be up your alley

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>>85026784
...how thick we talking?

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So what are the demons invading the world through the breaches like? Are they embodiments of human sin? Fallen angles? Evil extradimensional aliens ala DOOM? Eldritch horrors from beyond space & time? All of the above?

>>85026805
check the wiki

>>85026809
They are Succubi

>>85026621
So basically this?

>Things that can be done right away.
-Creating the world’s cosmogony and ancient history.
-The Day/Night Cycle, seasons, sea currents…
-Giantstep’s mythology and religions.
-Creation of a magical system.
-Adding more lore to the more lacking spots (politics, culture, economy, characters…).
-More underground lore.
-Writing the 13 Wonders of the World and 13 Horrors of the World.
-Current history/politics of every nation.
-Current world villains/wars/other threats...
-Bestiary (Land/Sea/Underground...).
-Herbarium (Land/Sea/Underground...).
-List of sapient species.
-Highly detailed maps for every major area in the world.

>Things that need something else done before starting them.
-Political map with cities, nation's capitals, main roads and trade routes [needs finishing the clean political map, more lore written and combine them all with the physical map]
-A general timeline of the world [we need lore about the World’s Creation, how long its ancient history lasts, match the timeline of the different nations so they do not overlap…]
-Making an astrological star map [needs finishing the world’s day/night cycle, cosmogony…]
-Making a map for monster territories [we need the bestiary and the biome map done]
-Map of alliances, peace treaties and wars [we need the clean political map and much more lore]
-Military power ranking [much, much more lore]

Anything else?

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>>85026851
Sounds coombait-y.

>>85026858
>So basically this?
yes
>Anything else?
maybe some petty things like architecture, languages, culture, minerals and ores, food and so on but I'd say that's it or at least pretty much all I can think of right now

>>85026858
>-Giantstep’s religions.
>-Creation of a magical system.
We decided to spare this for last in order to avoid attracting a certain /tg/ poster.

>>85026621
>Finshing the lists of 13 world wonders
So, so far we have 5, right? (Xandrilax Library, Qadash Pyramid, Hithlone Citadel, Tower of the Eternal Fire, Gilgemash Ziggurat)

>>85027320
The Ice Palace in the Ogabo Desert probably qualifies as one? Or does it need more lore to fit?

>>85027372
Well the Gilgemash Ziggurat literally does not exist anywhere in the world, but I saw someone suggesting it and added it because of lack of any other additions

>>85026594
Stairs

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>>85026858
>Herbarium (Land)
>Fart Daisies
The fart daisies grow on the border of the Bog of Eternal Stench to the Forest of Getting Lost and in the Kingdom of Grobianism. The fart daisy or Bellis Crepitu is a species of the family Fœtoraceae. Fart daisies emit a stinky smell when touched or when they sense vibrations. It is believed that this is a defensive reaction to deter herbivores. Fart Daisies are traditionally used by goblin and ogre children to make foul smelling necklaces. Bellis Crepitu has laxative properties and can be used in herbal medicine. Its use in salads is strongly discouraged as a single petal can spoil an entire meal

>>85027320
>>85027372
nice list so far

Terrors are the Flying Castle and The Great Maw right? I'd suggest to add the Maelstrom aswell

>>85027483
The Nothing would obviously be a major world terror

Ok, I'm writing something about the world's origins. Does this work, or does it contradict the already established lore?

Before the Beginning, there was the Nothing. The Nothing was alone and survived feeding off itself. The nothing raged and despaired thinking there was nothing in existence beyond itself. And, since the Nothing was the Nothing, it meant nothing existed. And then something existed: despair. The Nothing raged against its own non-existence, and that raged created a Great Void into the Nothing, spreading the Nothing too thing it started to dissipate, thus creating spaces of Something. One of those masses of Nothing fell into the Great Void. The Something realized it Was, and that it was not Nothing anymore. It also realized that, if it was Something, there must be more Something somewhere else, probably outside the Great Void. But it could not get outside of the Great Void, and thus it was alone. After an eternity of thought, it realized that, if it was inside of the Great Void, and there must be more Something outside of it, the solution is to find a way to go outside the Great Void. But the Something was nebulous and unclear, an indescribable mass of existence that was, but it wasn’t enough. Thus, the Something divided itself in a multitude of entities, smaller, but more defined, and with the potential to solve the great problem.

>>85027737
This was the birth of the Titans, the creatures born out of the Something’s desire to go beyond the Great Void. Their shapes were more defined, and their goal was clear. Working together, they decided on a plan to exit and find what laid beyond the Great Void. One of the Titans, named by many ancients as The Architect, took bits of itself and shaped them in a form that could allow them to get out: the Celestial Stairs. It is said that, while giving form to the Celestial Stairs, the strength and impact of his work created sparks that still burn in the firmament to this day, creating the stars and other cosmic bodies. Bu the Celestial Stairs were not strong enough on their own, at least not strong enough to carry the Titan’s weight. So once again, the Titans decided to divide themselves into smaller beings, the Great Giants. The Great Giants were small and light enough to climb the Celestial Stairs, and after taking some stars to illuminate their path, the climbed up.

>>85027737
>>85027752
Personally I like it

>>85027752
The Great Giants were of all shipe and sizes, the biggest ones climbing the Celestial Stairs before the smaller ones. Many of the smaller giants, tired of the great voyage, decided to stay and live in the stairs themselves, creating the land and oceans, and eventually lighting the spark of life. But this giants weren't strong enough to do this, they were smaller and weaker than their predecessors, and thus they kept shrinking, their wisdom, lore and size shrinking and shrinkng over time.

>>85027790
From the dust, dirt and sweat left by the Great Giants' Great Voyage in the steps life began growing in the ancient steps. Their shape followed the pattern of the ancient giants, but time made it change in form and function until it barely resembled them. Life spread throughout the world, and it was all good.

>>85027845
Out of the void, an infinitessimal speck of Nothingness ended up floating towards the World that now Was. That small Nothingness saw the life starting to grow in the world, and it felt despair again. Threatening to consume it, the Nothingness loomed above the world. However, the last of the Great Giants pleaded for the life growing in the step, and sacrificed itself to save it, being devoured by the speck of Nothingness. And from that predatorial act, the Nothingness suddenly felt the love and care the last of the Great Giants felt for the world. Torned aside between the despair of being Nothing and the Great Giant's love for existence, the speck of Nothingness split asunder once again. The fragments born out of this sundering were the Gods, each one dedicated to one aspect of existence that the last Great Giant loved so much. The part of the Nothingness that felt despair and envy fell in the ocean, and has been there ever since, eating away everything that falls into itself for the crime of being.

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>>85026858
>Bestiary (Sea)
>Anglerserpent
The Anglerserpent or Deep Sea Leviathan is a flying deep-sea dragon species that lives in the depths of the great rift. It uses its bioluminescence to attract prey in the hadopelagic depths. An Anglerserpent can go up to half a year without food. If this time limit is exceeded, the monster emerges through the Abyssopelagic level into higher water layers and hunts deep-sea whales. However, there are rare reports of Anglerserpents, apparently so famished that they have dived to the surface to ambush ships and devour the crew. Some sailors in the Sour Mussel on Ortuga Island swore they've witnessed one such beast soar into the air in front of their ship, fly towards the mainland, return and plummet back down into the waters with a full-grown Urtophant in its mouth.

>>85027483
Mg'umba basically a Lovecraftian blood moon that creates scary shit. From the last thread.

>>85028329
>creates scary shit
Can you be a little more precise about that?

>>85026809
>>85026851
>>85026860
They are not all succubi, at least one of the breaches is from a different hell.

Probably "all of the above" works best. They are invaders from different planes, but also have the ability to corrupt souls and some of them are potentially quite strange looking.

>>85027320
>>85027372
Imperial Palace in Nananikor (Azan) and the Lindworm Bridge have also been proposed on past threads

>>85029006
The succubi are canocially from hell as in a real physical place below the surface. The prophecy states that when the three rifts connect, the Witchelven Empire itself will descend into this hell. Also, under each of the three cracks lies a succubus hell metropolis. I don't know what the fourth crack is all about though.

The Triarchy of the Three Sisters, or just "The Sisters" is an island state south of Scimitaria.

It's named as such because it's comprised of three islands: Kabal, Tyr and Nekiz.

>History

The first settlement on these islands was the fortress of Nekiz, which gave its name to the island itself. It was built by the Azanneese over a thousands years ago, as a means of defense against the warring Drow. After the wars, it was subsequently abandoned, and its inhabitants turned to fishing as a means to provide for themselves.

This population of humans quickly spread to the neighboring islands of Tyr and Kabal, who founded the cities of Kabal (on the eponymous island) and Gaius (on Tyr). The islands had remained relatively poor, until a species of sea slug was discovered in the waters near Kabal.

As these slugs came in many different vibrant colours, the people of the Sisters were able to use its secretions in order to extract fabulous colours from them, which soon became their main export. These dyes are characteristic for their durability and the seemingly infinite shades and hues they provide.

The Sisters soon became immensely rich due to the dye trade, with thousands of merchants moving to the islands within a generation. Soon enough, the three cities grew in size and importance, and they soon established a government consisting of three Triarchs - one from each island - who ruled in unison.

>People

Sistermen are considered boisterous, flamboyant and greedy. They love bright colors, dyeing their hair and beards brightly in colors such as maroon, scarlet, orange and vermilion.They are considered queer by the Azanneese and even their islander neighbors.

Their language is a corrupted version of Azaneese. Moreelsians and Hithloneans consider their accents ludicrous.

>>85029081
>The succubi are canocially from hell as in a real physical place below the surface
That wasn't really clear from the initial short posting. When writing stuff related to the succubus, I assumed that if you go deep enough into the breaches, you eventually end up in another dimension.

The Ancestral Breach seems to have a similar premise given it is magical in nature and can be closed.

>>85029503
Ancestral Breach got added after the succubi breaches and nothing indicated that they would lead into another dimension

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>Economy

Gaius, Nekiz and Kabal are merchantile cities, where trade is considered a much more honorable profession than arms. Many banks are present in the Sisters, its merchants having amassed enormous wealth in their vaults. Sistermen dyers are able to manipulate the colours of the sea slugs by changing their diets.

The Triarchy is also deeply involved in the slave trade, and Sistermen slavers are known to be especially aggressive. They even sail beyond the Adamantine Archipelago, in search of slaves from the lands of the hobbits, gnomes and brownies. Most of the slaves in the west are a result of the Triarchy's monopoly on slave trade.

>Cities

The main cities of the Sisters are Nekiz, Kabal and Gaius.

Nekiz was the first settlement in the Sisters, originally a fortress town. It's now considered the administrative capital of the Triarchy, although it has the smallest population of the three cities. It's protected by brim, white walls and there's a huge tower near its Harbor that serves as a lighthouse. It's in Nekiz that the Triarchs hold their meetings and official festivities, Even though slaves are numerous and outnumber the local populace in every city, Nekiz is the worst offender of all. Slaves outnumber the freeborn four to one, and sellswords are particularly common.

Gaius is the most populous city in the Triarchy, located in the biggest island of the sisters, Tyr. Gaius has many factories and is home to all manner of craftsmen offering every ware possible and one can even find the occasional con-man or shady dealer. The city is also home to numerous banks and even has a zoo. There's no official army, but there's a secret service that operates there. Gaius is known as the "City of a Thousand Gods" thanks to hundreds of temples devoted to hundreds of gods that dot its streets. One can even find temples dedicated to Drow or even Witch Elven gods.

Campaign anon again. What schools of magic are in the world? How does it function? Is there god sourced magic or holy blessings?

Also what variety of orcs do we have in setting?

>>85029797
>arcane magic (aka magic)
can only be done by the seventh son of a seventh son
>black magic (necromany, demonology, voodoo etc)
can be done by selling your soul
>conch magic
can be done by people being born during an equinox on ortuga

>>85025361
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>>85026192
What program(s) did you use to make these maps?

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>>85029588
Kabal is known as the economic capital of the Triarchy, as its in this city where most of the Sisters' dyers are based. There are over a dozen banks in the city's premises, as well as insurance companies. It's particularly known for its colourful buildings and walls that surround it, which are painted from the dyes extracted from the sea slugs. Some call it "the city of Rainbows". Pleasure houses are common in Kabal.

>Religion

There's no official religion in the Sisters. The locals worship a plethora of gods, while others follow the old faith of Azan. The slaves in Gaius find fortitude in prayer thanks to the myriad of temples that house gods from all over the known world.

>Government

The Triarch of each island is chosen from among the members of a conclave of the wealthiest and noblest of each city. He rules for 8 years, although examples of longer reigns have been recorded.

The Triarch of Nekiz is Brusco Saeleris, an old man with a sturdy build that used to be a sellsword in his younger days.

Yuuri Flatro is the Gaius' Triarch, a passionate young man with a quick temper who's family is said to hail from Blesire settlers.

The Triarch of Kabal is Elian Quanis, a flamboyant man with shoulder-length blonde hair, who's proud of his heritage as one of the first settlers in the Sisters.

>Geography

The Sisters are relatively flat islands. Foreign merchants have noted how some of the beaches in the less populated areas are so clean you can see staright to the bottom. The sea around the Sisters is known as the "Sea of Tranquility" thanks to its calm waters.

>Millitary

The Triarchy has a large fleet, most of it leased or bought from the large shipyards of Hithlone. During times of war, the Triarchs use their influence among the bankers in order to employ an impressive amount of mercenaries from Furlaniya, Azan and Ampleazzo.

>>85025361
currently working on an HD topographical map of pic related. will be the same red squares are measured to be 100km according to op map

>>85029797
>What school of magic are in the world
The Citadel of Hithlone acts as a super-university basically, and it teaches magic as well, although there are many who suspect that the Scholars that rule the Citadel are against magic and want to exterminate it from the world.

The Isle of Wizards and Arangea also hold magical academies, to my knowledge.

Alga (capital city of Avangar) is the home of the dark arts, where they are practiced and teached freely, unlike most of the world. Insidious individuals from all over the world travel to the North in order to hone their skills.

Orcs are either English (Ingurland) or Irish (Orc'eire)

>>85029797
We don't know how magic works exactly, but some have said that it either can be taught by other wizards (magic academies, which are limited) or through an individual who was born with magical prowess (through a specific gene, who knows).

>>85029863
>can only be done by the seventh son of a seventh son

that was never established and breaks large part of the lore

>>85030023
How does something get "established"? It was stated in previous threads so what exactly makes something lore? Should we do a poll on it?
>breaks large part of the lore
how so?

>>85030079
Something as big and influential as magic surely should have to be accepted by the majority, or atleast not be opposed by it.

Many mages are mentioned in the lore, with multiple magic practicioners and academies. Are we all assume that all of those are seventh sons of seventh sons? Makes no sense.

>>85030139
>Are we all assume that all of those are seventh sons of seventh sons?
why not? it's a big world? how do you explain people not becoming wizards if everything has the potential to do so? that would hoenstly be even more lore breaking. I'd say we should do a poll on it

>>85030175
polls should not be used as an excuse for massive retcons, for one a race like gnolls does not reproduce like humans.

Yet they use magic.

>>85030139
seconded, I've said it in the last thread or so, magic academies could either:
>a
Be extremely inclusive
or
>b
extremely expensive

that means that no way in hell would peasants be able to cast magic of any sort. basically only nobles, people with connections or people that have already shown signs of magic profficiency are allowed to, which already boils down the number to very few people already

>>85030215
So you wan't something to get established but doing a poll on a magic system we have not yet agreed upon is somehow a retcon? Sorry but this makes no sense

>>85030222
which magic academies exist in this setting?

>>85030222
>magic can be bought
yeah, let's not do this

>>85030320
>magic does not exist apart from like 5 individuals, where magic academies and numerous mages have been established in the lore already

>>85030242
Doing a poll is OK, but the poll should only contain options which already make sense for the setting and don't demand massive lore changes.

>>85030320
>magic being taught is a bad thing
>but it being able to only be inherited from the seventh son of the seventh son is a better idea
lol

>>85030368
>magic does not exist apart from like 5 individuals
where did you get thi from

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>>85029964
>Foreign Relations

Hithlone - Relations with the Terpsytheans are mostly cordial, although there have been attempts of Hithlone merchants to try and seize part of the dye production in the past. The Triarchy would support them in a war against the Drow.

Moreelse - Even though a fellow human nation, the relationship between the two aren't perfect. Despite Moreelse's nobles claiming resassuring the triarchy that the situation is under control, many Hydra's Eyes scientists have been disturbing the Triarchy's operations in the Kinogg Jungles, as well as pushing the White Death narcotic in the streets of Gaius.

Kinnog - The main source of slaves for the Triarchy. Slavers have built bases there that they use to comb out the jungles in search of elusive Orcs and Dwarves to capture.

SonQo Temples - The slavers avoid this place and for good reason. Nothing good can come from the cursed monks of the temples.

Red Lotus Congregation - Another source of slaves for the slavers of the Sisters. However, in the last years the Holy Guard have fought back mercilessly, even successfully repelling some of the raids.

Orc'Eire - Although they don't directly interact with the island of Orc'Eire, many of their orcs have been captured as slaves in the jungles of Kinnog. Therefore, these Orcs share a deep hatred not only for the Sistermen, but for all humans as a whole.

The Drow - Same goes for the Drow, although many Drow slaves in the Sisters are a result of the Triarchy's slavers buying them off the hands of human rebel groups in the Drow's lands.

>>85030389
If a man has 3 sons with one wife and 4 with another does the youngest son count as the 7th? Or doe all sons have to be from the same mother?

What if a woman remarries or is a widow does she need 7 sons cumulatively or with each?

What about races which reproduce asexually like the Wood Elves or Gnolls? Is the Island of Mages also only 1% mage?

>>85030398
The seventh son of a seventh son is a concept from folklore regarding special powers given to, or held by, such a son. To qualify as "the seventh son of a seventh son" one must be the seventh male child born in an unbroken line with no female siblings born between, and to a father who himself is the seventh male child born in an unbroken line with no female siblings born between.

There have been 5 (five) examples of this, among billions and billions of humans that have lived on earth. Card's book that explores this concept, in which the protagonist is the only one in the world that's a seventh son of a seventh son, so he's the only one that exhibits magical qualities.

>>85030450
>with no female siblings born between
source trust me bro

>>85030450
If it's such a bad concept why not just do a poll? In that case nobody would vote on it anyway.

>>85030450
no anon... that's from a movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXiNkOjM7oM

>>85030471
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh_son_of_a_seventh_son

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>>85026594
I think we're going with the Penrose stair model
people seemed to really like it and using it would really fit into the cannon

>>85030438
It's such a retarded concept lmao

>>85030487
so in case you samefag and vote for your concept a hundred times, then are people forced to re-write their characters being mages as them being the seventh son of a seventh son? what about women then? are they unable to cast magic?

>>85030450
Sorry but you are full of shit. During medieval times it wasn't special at all for a family to have seven children. Wizards woould be way more common in a scenario like that. The way you portrait this concept comes off as either very uneducated or disingenuous and manipulative

>>85030535
>introduces a concept out of his ass 11 threads in and passes it as canon despite no one agreeing beforehand
>I am the one being manipulative and disingenuous

>>85030175
Anon, it's not happening. It's been ambiguous since the beginning and there's no reason to just flip everything around in an instant when we're so far in.

>>85030532
>so in case you samefag and vote for your concept a hundred times
this is not how polls work anon. stop being a schizo. there is literally no other way to agree on this topic and I have absolutely nothing aginst going with the majority on that one

>>85030438
what about sitllborn children

>>85030502
I think a straight set of stairs would be better. The giant who climbed wish to ascend into the higher dimensions like in wuxia or xianxia.

It also then makes sense for the suns and stars to wish to go 'up'.

The Penroze stair model also makes the setting more boring because then all realms on the stair are 'equal' whereas a straight stair implies superiority and inferiority.

Like from the far-west the nothing creeps in which could be spill-over from a lower-worse stair whereas in the far west the Lord who came from the sky looks in and a leviathan so grand crashed into the ocean his body completely changed the ecosystem, water and sank a continent thus likely being spill over from a higher stair.

The stairs themselves should be considered much more metaphysical in nature than literal steps laid out in space. You are ascending trough dimensions who are analogous to steps.

We could also leave it ambiguous on whether the stair goes up or constantly goes in circles there is no-one really in setting who'd know which is true.

>>85030587
I disagree with the seventh son thing but I don't see any reason against a poll

The seventh son thing was first mentioned in thread 10 by the same anon btw

hey chill guys, let's do some worldbuilding instead of fighting

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>>85030502
>>85030594
Lots of dimensions

Hell with the succubi and shit is one of the peroze dimenssions to the side so is the steep fall in terminus

The Nothingness spills over from a lower dimenssion or is the step crumbling.

The Leviathan and Lord came from a higher dimenssion

So every penroze step has vertical steps and every vertical step has penroze steps leading to effectively millions of dimenssions

https://strawpoll.com/polls/LVyKxQb3kn0

>>85030389
Not that anon but unironically yes.

>>85030625
Sure, but let's first agree on options for the poll. The 7th son thing only makes sense for a low fantasy setting not this. The options are:

- magic is a talent you get randomly
- everyone can learn magic with sufficient resources and dedicated training time
- magic is tied to bloodline stronger bloodline -stronger magic
- magic is tied to land some places are more magical than others and where you are born and grow up determines your magic potential
- magic are blessings given by divine beings, spirits or obtained trough contracts

Anything else that makes sense? Does any option here break canon?

>>85030678
>https://strawpoll.com/polls/LVyKxQb3kn0
Why is there just two options? What about "needing the blessing of a god"? That was mentioned in one of the threads.

>>85030678
>https://strawpoll.com/polls/LVyKxQb3kn0
fuck off poll-troll

>>85030694
>magic is a talent you get randomly

this, but it also should be to be trained so the magic academies have a purpose. maybe there's a couple of eugenics shananigans going on so people try to figure out how to inherit that trait

>>85030695
I just thought nobody would disagree with that one anyway. Since it's not the "normal" way I didn't include it just like with black magic, conch magic, alchemy, bookimism and so on since those are already well established concepts.

>>85030704
>don't let let the people decide but listen to ME instead
yeah I don't trust you

>>85030535
Anon, just admit your idea is whack and move on.

>>85030594
desu I only really care about from the model is that:
>the world is a step on a staircase
>the map is a literal model of the world
>the underworld is what's literally under the world
>The nothing that devours everything is actually the nest step's version of hell
>there's a drop off on the south side.
>the sun rises in the south/southeast and sets in the west/southwest
>the higher step is on the western side of the map
>(possibly) more than one sun/moons that are ascending through the staircase
>there are a finite amount of suns/moons that the world changes through every 100 years or more

>>85030783
If you don't like the idea literally just vote against it. I just think the majority should decide

>>85030830
agreed

>>85030535
>>85030450
>>85030320
>>85029863
why don't we just have the seventh son of a seventh son be particularly good at magic rather than having them be the only ones to be able to use magic?

>>85030969
because this would make the magic aspect about magic less magical

>>85030664
this could work actually.
although I prefer the world to be on a corner step as apposed to a middle step.
it makes the world seem a lot more special and fits with the geography better

>>85030830
>>85030835
Constant samefagging

No, you can't implement stupid ideas because you threw in a poll with 2 retarded options hoping people think you'rs is less bad.

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>>85031015
anon why are you so paranoid and angry about this? feels a little bit like you are the one pushing an agenda here

>>85030981
well I think it's too limiting.
I agree that magic should be uncommon, but I don't think it should be limited by this.
Magic needs to be able to come from anyone, even if it is rare.

>>85031074
we could make it so daughters in between are allowed that would reduce the odds significantly

>>85031031
yeah, sure anon.

>>85031113
alright in this case I can only advise you to take your meds and get your head out of your ass

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well I think the poll has come to a close.
>17 posters in the thread
>18 votes
uh oh
well they voted for the majority anyway so idk

I don't see what's wrong with magic being able to be learned only by genetically predisposed people or those that are taught by those

>>85031015
People accusing others of samefagging are in most cases projecting samefags themselves. Even if they are right with their accusations they are in most cases equally full of shit if not more

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>>85031136
nvm it was a friend from my discord server

>>85031136
>what are lurkers

>>85031152
this was my first post and yet I voted in the poll before that

>>85031152
that's exactly the thing
It could just be that. People who have the magic gene or are taught by them. Why does it have to be the seventh son? That doesn't make any sense

what happened to the setting's discord

>>85031136
you aren't really convincing me to vote for your choice faggot. poll stays up until next thread. there is absolutely no reason to close it just because it suits you at this very moment. my prognosis is that the magic can be learned option will win anyway since the other take is somewhat contrarian in nature but fuck you for trying to patronize others

ARE WOMEN ABLE TO DO MAGIC

>>85031173
see>>85031158
also >lurkers still show up as posters in the thread

>>85031199
no. only if they sell their souls

>>85031199
succubi prove this

>>85031212
we can retcon that easily, no problem.

>>85031212
demons and deities aren't the subject of this discussion

>>85031194
>fuck you for trying to patronize others
>poll stays up till the next thread
fair enough

>>85031247
the other poll stayed up for multiple days and there's no reason this one shouldn't

>>85031229
lol
>>85031236
good point, but surely there is at least one female with arcane magic already written about right?

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What lies within the Great Nothing?

>>85031264
To be fair, the poll's results about the world's shape pointed to Giantstep being round, and despite that we've pretty set in stone the flat world. So really, the polls are only indicative and don't really make anything absolute.

>>85031264
no you don't understand
yes it should! there's absolutely no reason it shouldn't! people from overseas need time to wake up and vote on this poll!

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One of the greatest powers that the Vzdoruye of Mossovoy hold is the power of ressurection. It's an incredibly rare phenomenon and it requires not only an almost intact, recently deceased body, but also the combination of both the necromancers and the fresh sculptors' sorcery at their full potential.

The ressurected person is also known as a "Rhodan". The few recorded instances of Rhodans have indicated that such person is not able to recall the memories of their past, but only the memories inplanted to them by the Vzdoruye. That, and the fact that the proccess of creating a Rhodan is so arduous and exhausting explains why the Vzdoruye refuse to perform it on foreigners, and rather only attempt it on their fallen leaders and necromancers.

>>85029797
Divine magic is mentioned in the Merfolk Empire, presumably certain other non-evil gods can supply it as well.

For orcs, so far we just have negative stereotype orcs of InGurLand, the Irish orcs on Orc'eire and jungle orcs in Kinnog and maybe a few other areas, plus some orcs in the remote parts of the drow city-states. There are plenty of other parts of the map where orcs could appear though.

>>85029863
>seventh son of a seventh son
Seems both needlessly restrictive, but also easily exploitable by those willing to have large families. Probably better to just say magic potential is somewhat rare and random, but clearly there are some ties to bloodline. Also female spellcasters have been referenced in the past.

>>85030258
see >>85030007, but there are probably lots of smaller ones as well, a few have been mentioned in smaller Azanese communities.

>>85030625
Polls can be rigged by anons with enough spare time on their hands, I fully intend to ignore any results that would require lots of retcons, particularly this one since both options are nearly as dumb as each other https://strawpoll.com/polls/LVyKxQb3kn0

>>85031199
Yes
>>85031211
>>85031278
Female spellcasters have been mentioned in non-evil nations working for legit organizations

>>85031309
huh didn't know that.
Well I guess the things that effect everything are up to interpretation with the world being community driven and all

>>85031380
no reason why wecant change these things for them to make sense

>>85031297
nothing, that's the point

>>85031309
yeah because the same polfag who did that poll without asking anyone ignoring preestablished lore (and kept it going for 3 threads) is doing same now

He also added the kubic option which never existed before siphon off votes from flat.

Are gods in this setting real? If so, how powerful are they?

>>85031380
>I fully intend to ignore any results that would require lots of retcons
this
this is the major problem of the 7th son thing
the magic system has to be able to be applied in every scenario so by limiting it to any group of people would cause too many things to have to be rewritten

tldr; you shouldn't have to learn how the magic system works to wright a character who uses magic

>>85031363
Umm sweetie, all those necromancers and sculptors must be the seventh sons of seventh sons in order to do magic

>>85031380
>Female spellcasters have been mentioned in non-evil nations working for legit organizations
So? Seventh sister of a seventh sister works just as good
>>85031460
no they just sold their souls. the lefthand path is always an option but at a high cost

>>85031460
what?
>>85031473
but they don't worship any demon or whatever, who would they sell their soul to

>>85031436
yeah this poll did seem a bit sketchy.
the only two options are to disagree and make almost everybody a wizard or to agree and stamp out preexisting lore to fit the new lore

>>85031489
>who would they sell their soul to
the god of the dead possibly

>>85031436
Stop sperging anon. The poll is on your side of the argument so where's the big deal?

>>85031489
the thread is having a civil war over weather or not arcane spellcasters should have to be the seventh son of a seventh son

>>85031538
bad prescedent and I don't want "everyone is a wizard" either.

Both options are shit the poll does not count

>>85031538
how do you know what side he's on

>>85031572
So what option do you suggest?

>>85031574
Well it's quite obvious?

>>85031309
this it's a good way to get some input on the general consensus of these threads

>>85031572
agreed.
I kind of just took the poll as "should arcane spellcasters have to be the 7th son of a 7th son" but I could totally see how it could be read as "should everyone be a wizard or only a few people"
it really is a deal with the devil

>>85031578
rare abillity but not to the point of being the thirteenth son of the faggot son or whatever. for non-magic predisposed individuals magic would be able to be learned at a very basic level

>>85031629
>rare abillity
how rare and what are the determinants?

>>85031592
not to me.
what side is he on and how can you tell just from him saying "the poll is bad"

>>85031644
genetic

>>85031645
that's weird because you are him

>>85031649
go on

>>85031644
why do you need to know what percentage of the world are spellcasters

why is ambiguity somehow a bad thing now

>>85031664
because this is a setting build by autists for autists

Why does "bad" magic need for the spellcaster to sell his soul to the devil or whatever

what constitutes as "bad" magic? Pyromancy could be accepted in one society, but a taboo in another. Why can't magic just be a tool that has its consequences apart from selling one's soul to Lucifer

>>85031578
>>85031629
>>85031644
this>>85031152
I think that's what everybody wants but some retard is saying that you would have to be the 7th son of a dickfart or whatever.
it sucks and I genuinely think only like 2 people think that it should really be the case and I don't think they are too attached to it either.

>>85031650
>>85031645
>>85031592
>>85031574
>>85031538
>>85031436
hold on

>>85031694
>what constitutes as "bad" magic?
necromancy
demonology
blood magic
that sort of shtick. pyromancy is legit

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>>85031715
>>85031650
see

>>85031696
it's a guy that wants to shape how the world should be like (and not basic shit, like the shape of the planet or whatever) but stuff that's been written by people for 10 threads now

>>85031722
I think what anon is trying to say is that morality is subjective and magic should reflect that

y'all are boring

>>85026858
>-Writing the 13 Wonders of the World and 13 Horrors of the World.
One wonder could be a particularly large temple from the land occupied by the Jeraxih Tribes, I imagine those were intended to be particularly impressive, and they've probably been around a hell of a long time if an entire civilization has sprung up around them

>>85031762
Do we assume that demons are always evil? Because if so, demomancy HAS to be always evil. Or at the very least, apply a "if you gaze at the abyss, the abyss gazes back at you" principle. Maybe same with necromancy.

>>85031820
african detected

>>85031829
yeah that makes sense, because demonology is inherently linked with demons and demons are known to make deals/pacts with the living

but I'm writing a culture where all sorts of magic but healing/nature magic are considered evil, so the rest are up to interpretation

>>85031883
Ι'm american

>>85031904
exactly

>autists spend 100 posts arguing about magic system instead of writing lore or maps

>>85031829
Not necessarily. Demomancy can be the taming of evil entities to serve a good purpose, like binding a demon to protect a farm or some shit

>>85031996
BUT it can backfire and fuck you over

>>85031957
what part of arguing about a magic system isn't lore?

>>85032012
Yeah, I'm down with that. There's always the potential for a demon to break free of its constraints, and not have to listen to the binder. And this is especially bad because normally the demon would have to expend a lot of its energy to get into the normal world, but if it was summoned, then it's in tip top shape for fucking shit up

>>85031446
>Are gods in this setting real? If so, how powerful are they?
At least some of them seem to be real, and can be exceedingly powerful, though they seem to restrict themselves to specific regions
https://crumbling-giantstep.fandom.com/wiki/Merfolk_Empire?so=search
https://crumbling-giantstep.fandom.com/wiki/Land_of_the_Lord_descended_from_the_sky?so=search
https://crumbling-giantstep.fandom.com/wiki/Kingdom_of_Nes_and_Fitt
https://crumbling-giantstep.fandom.com/wiki/Glutton_Island?so=search

>>85031572
>Both options are shit the poll does not count
agreed.

>>85031578
>>85031644
>>85031664
>>85031682
Maybe just leave it ambiguous. On the Autia worldbuilding threads "everyone" agreed that magic comes with a high physical cost/mutations, then no one ever mentioned it again because it was unpopular with the people actually doing the writing. Also the low fantasy and high fantasy fans tend to clash over stuff like this

Also probably overall percentages as well as power levels vary greatly by race and region. There was some speculation last thread that leylines are invigorated by the moon and the sun and are stronger beneath they path.

>>85031762
>>85031885
Rather than see different types of magic as good or evil, it may be simpler just to see it as the sadistic dickbag gods and godlike entities being more generous with granting magical abilities to people, otherwise no one would worship them.

>>85031996
>Demomancy can be the taming of evil entities to serve a good purpose
no that's just postmodern retardation

>>85032036
I'm a low fantasychad but even I agree the seventh son of the seventh son shit is just terrible

>>85032119
what would you suggest?

>>85031996
>>85032012
>>85031829
>>85031762
>>85031722
>>85031885
Murder is evil, but not always wrong. Some people deserve to be killed, often it's the only option.
Similarly, black magic is evil, even if used for good, it doesn't mean it's wrong but it should always be taboo.
ends can justify means, but not always.

>>85026948
we should have listened to this guy

>>85032133
good take and checked

>>85026948
>>85032136
who?

>>85032149
we don't talk about him. it might summon him

>>85032098
What about it is postmodern? Actually, I have a better question, what is your actual problem with it aside from "muh postmodernism"? And how is the idea of binding an objectively evil being to serve one's will a deconstruction of previously established archetypes?

>>85032133
This I can get behind. I like evil /= wrong

What is it about magic systems that attracts autists with assburgers

>>85032167
It's just a boring idea that thinks it's original like morally grey orcs or the villain actually being the good guy. I'd even go so far to say that the motivs of a demonologist COULD be pure but the end result should always be catasthropic since he's are dealing with evil forces beyond a mortals control. Goethe's Faust is still the best inspiration when in comes to black magic

>>85031512
but they don't worship the god of death

see, with making arbitrary rules yourself half the lore is up for retconning adjusting to said arbitrary rules

>>85032167
>>85032225
Lacks SOVL
also there needs to be some sort of objective morality.

>>85032133
Is there a magic that inherently corrupts the user? And if so, in which way? What do we count as corruption in this setting?

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>>85032317
>also there needs to be some sort of objective morality.
holy based

>>85032317
hello reddo

Just to clarify alchemy, bookimism and astromancy aren't magic but science

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I dont care about magic arguing, so heres some lore for a minor place:

In the western part of the Terrania Freehold, on the large Island known to the locals as the Isle of Speaking Trees, one can find the Chugaranni. The Chugaranni are a tribal people, said to be the result of spirits copulating with lost men from the north. They are dark if skin, with deep green eyes and hair, walking around the Island, hunting Game with crude Spears and singing songs they claim to be birthed as the world came to be. These people have an imoressive ability to speak to animals, spirits, and even to their revered talking trees. These trees are found all over the island, being large, with one or several wooden mouths protruding from the bark. It is said one can hear them whisper when walking alone, and the locals speak to them routinely, worshipping them as living gods.

The only permanent settlement on the island is the city of Ug, centred around the temple of the Old Man. The Old Man is the name if a giant, old talking tree which sits at the middle of the temple. Over 500 mouths are found on it, and trusted priests talk to it for days at a time, claiming to receive cryptic commands and words of wisdom from the tree.

>>85032348
pure projection

our magic system should be like the witcher's, or something similar to it

>While a few simple spells, like a witcher's sign can be used by anyone, only those born with the power, known as Sources, are capable of truly wielding its incredible power.

>The power used to cast spells is drawn from the elements. Fire is the best but simultaneously most dangerous elemental source. Mages who specialize in the magic of fire often achieve great power, but they pay a price for it: as fire addicts, they often suffer burns or even die engulfed in flames. The essence of fire becomes their essence, which makes them vulnerable to water."

>>85032381
genuinely not sure if trolling

>>85032174
It is one of the best ways for low effort posters to ensure their ideas have a big impact on the setting.

>>85032329
Probably making bad bargains with succubi, other demons, bog witches, etc. for power.

>>85031423
yes there is.
it is a direct violation of the second rule:
>don't fuck up other people's lore
it's in every OP post, you should know this by now.

>>85032404
>>85032381
no it should be the seventh son

can we refrain from magic system faggotry until the rest of the lore has been established? I don't get how this particular discussion attracts legitimate autistic people all the time.

>>85032437
sure

>>85032357
like, on the edge of magic and science right?
also what the hell is bookism? never heard of it before this thread

>>85032357
also flesh sculptors

>>85032419
it should be the seventh son of a seventh son, if that happens then most of these magic users are void

>>85032437
well what are we working on in the meantime?
when are we going to circle back to this?
magic is a major part of any fantasy setting, we can't postpone it forever

>>85032525
alright, I'm convinced.
I don't think there's anybody who would actually agree with directly violating the basic rules of this thread just to fit some silly little rule.
we can find some other way to limit the amount of wizards

>>85032534

>>85026493
>>85026621

>>85032419
it will happen sooner or later either this or these threads die because there's nothing new happening. stop pretending the lore is some sort of sacred cow. we have changed it before and we will change it again

The one pushing for the seventh faggot of the seventh faggot is one person, and I think we all know who it is exactly.

>>85032580
>we can find some other way to limit the amount of wizards
like what? I honestly like the folkloric take and it seems to be a good solution for that problem. why not just make it the third son of a third son or something similar

>>85032629
why do you always pretend that you're retarded?

>>85032662
because people don't want to

people don't liked your idea, now deal with it

>>85032644
the poll clearly shows it's a good quarter of the people lurking this thread. stop acting like a paranoiac

Alright, I forced myself to write up a Bobbitpost to distract from the weapons grade magical autism

Previous:
>he looked to Jugger, active and spry
>hugged him close, wishing to be wrong
>and gave his faithful friend one last goodbye
>"This place is not real, here I do not belong"

New:
>of his new friend, Bobbit now thought
how hard they'd worked, and the beasts they'd fought
>after all this, Bobbit would not surrender
>not without helping his moral defender

>his eyes shot open, his body straight up
>Bobbit had not returned from that phantom land
>his mission and goal he did now understand
>the knight's visions, Bobbit had to disrupt

>>85032681
It wasn't my idea in the first place. Instead of assuming shit about me you could have given another explanation but you actively choose not to

>>85032666
take your meds satan

>>85032700
people have given suggestions to try to restrain your autism this entire thread, aspie-anon. learn how to read

>>85032734
Anon instead of you I'm being constructive and actually provide some input. You are sperging here because that other anon rustled your jimmies

>>85032689
>bobbit shook the knight for some time
>but instead the knight stayed in the land of dreams
>a woman's name he kept muttering over and over
>but bobbit had no choice
>he gave to his chest a strong kick

>>85032644
I always find it funny how people still fail to recognize that spefici guy. but we must continue onto bobbitposting so we clear our minds

Next Setting: No Magic

Vote for the magic system
https://strawpoll.com/polls/LVyKxQb3kn0
https://strawpoll.com/polls/LVyKxQb3kn0
https://strawpoll.com/polls/LVyKxQb3kn0

>>85032758
>"Up, up, sir knight, you must awaken!"
>and with this kick, from dreaming the knight was shaken
>but open his eyes did not shoot, his back did not spring
>instead, to the bliss of his dream did he cling

>>85032853
>young bobbit was left out of choice
>he took a jug of she-eep milk out of his pocket
>the knight's throat he kept open
>and emptied the jug inside his esophagus

>>85032629
>stop pretending the lore is some sort of sacred cow. we have changed it before and we will change it again
We usually don't change things though except discussion that was never agreed to, and lore that was unpopular right from when it was initially posted. If we keep retconning everything the setting just turns into an incoherent mess.

>>85032684
A lot of people didn't participate in the poll since it forces you to chose between two bad options. Besides, polls can be rigged, I have seen people on /qst/ change their id multiple times in a short period of time just to prove this point.

>>85032662
These types of collaborative settings only work when writers have a certain amount of flexibility to do their own thing. Attempts to impose lore that applies to all regions despite the many different themes, histories, races, etc. that each have will inevitably fail.

>>85032903
I have no idea why he wants to impose his silly little idea when so much lore has been written by many people beforehand that talks of many mages that are either women, not seventh sons of seventh sons, or non-humans. What an entitled spoiled brat.

>>85032967
>not seventh sons of seventh sons
not him but where did anyone state that abou a mage?

>>85032903
>polls can be rigged
Why would anyone rig a pol in a way where his favorite option does not win?

>>85032992
Oh, so we now assume that every single magic practicioner in the Citadel, every single sorcerer in Avangar, every wizard in the Isle of Wizards, every pyromancer in Arangea, all those are seventh sons of seventh sons... So many seventh sons of seventh sons already.

Oh, and the answer's hidden somewhere in there

https://crumbling-giantstep.fandom.com/wiki/Avangar_Empire

Does she-eep milk have any preestablished qualities that I'm not recalling? I just wanna make sure before I make one up

So what IS this settings magic system?

>>85033088
it tastes good

>>85033100
>So what IS this settings magic system?
Probably as diverse and borderline incoherent as the setting itself

You got leylines, bloodlines, magic granted by various entities, magic from manipulating magically infused materials, races with innate magic abilities, and who knows what else people will want to add at a later date

>>85033153
this does not compute with my autism

>Total votes: 66
>Posters: 21
Ok which one of you absolute autists rigged the poll?

>>85032366
Someone add this to the Herbarium

which is the best written nation

I want to run a campaign on this setting

>>85033238
witch bog has quite some lore

>>85030222
>>85030320
I think it would be interesting if there were few magic academies, due to entities in the weave of magic potentially seeing the casting of it, leading to non-divine magic causing a risk of extra dimensional attack. This also explains why wizards would go on adventures rather than just studying in towers, because that much magic in one place for so long can attract the attention of them.

>>85033218
>>85031136
this guy

>>85033266
>This also explains why wizards would go on adventures
They are not doing that though

>>85033285
Not all of them, I just meant that it makes it so that there is any reason to go on adventures. Also, it makes it so that magic isn't just free power, but a risk that can be taken.

>>85032684
Consider that there are four times as many votes as posters. That poll is basically worthless.

I think we should make it canon that highwaymen exist in this world. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L__TrWhq4Uk

>>85032629
>>85032525
you're ruining other peoples lore in order to pass a controversial rule.

>>85033356
not the first time it's been done by the same guy

ignore his spergouts and write your lore regardless of his autistic rules

Nations that have established lore so far

>Azan
>Bog Witch
>Drow City States
>Witch Elf Empire
>Hithlone
>Triarchy
>Ogchuk fiefdoms
>Avangar
>Mountain Hobbits

missing anything?

>>85033354
There are probably highwaymen in some parts of the Southeastern region. I know the Jiraxih tribes do a lot of raiding, so travelers going through their territory are likely to be robbed, and I would be surprised if there weren't highwaymen in the Blind Bastard's Domain

>>85033384
Okhost has a little bit of lore on it. could be expanded more

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>>85033356

>>85033339
true but it was actually rigged in the opposite direction so one of the guys opposing the seventh son option is a colossal faggot himself

>>85033384
Biblion

>>85033384
Define "established lore". Because most everything has at least a paragraph or two

>>85033434
I'm talking to both of you

>>85033480
I'm pretty sure you are only salty because it would affect one of the precious nations you wrote

>>85033497
>people get "salty" because you are willing to fuck over the lore they've written over a retarded rule only you like

colour me surprised, aspie-kun. Also, you said you'd "respect" the majority's opinion. So now fuck off.

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I uuh...
I finished my big rock candy mountain map..
didn't really expect all this arguing

I'm late to the party but want to write some lore for a nation myself when will be the next project like this?

>>85033497
anon, the seventh son thing will never be canon. just accept it and move on.

>>85033527
These things just crop up. It's not like anyone plans them

>>85033516
I don't know what you are talking about but it sounds pretty retarded

>>85033527
there are nations with 0 lore written here so you can do some of that

>>85033538
Don't make him angry. He will ruin at least the next three threads with this shit.

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>>85033497
>you are only salty because it would affect one of the precious nations you wrote

>>85033553
meh that's not the same

>>85033546
just like all your shitty lore here that sticks out like a sore thumb oh no no hahahaha

>>85033523
Typical with these kinda threads some retard comes by and tries to destroy the whole thing as a joke. It's the 3rd one we got.

Anyway nice map anon

>>85033573
at least you are upfront about it

>>85033605
Are you high? Can you make an example?

>>85033497
you're the one who wants everyone to bend their lore to yours

>>85033561
The reason he's sperging out is because someone got him angry before lmao

Now that we've gotten over the seventh son bullshit, I'll try to keep track of the thirteen wonders once more.

>Xandrilex Library
>Citadel of Hithlone
>Tower of the Eternal Fire
>Nananikor Palace in Azan
>Gilgemash Ziggurat
>Ogabo Ice Palace
>Lindworm Bridge (?)

Alright campaign anon here. For Magic I'm just simplifying it to everybody has a bit of magic in them but you need it in vast quantities and have to be taught how to use it to actually be useful. A god can also bless you with magic, make pacts with deities to gain access to certain types of magic etc.

There are Spells which are codified,orderly, quick to use but not very impactful.

Raw magic which allows you to do more but there is a chance you could explode.

Rituals which increase the amount of magic you can Wield. Can be almost anything. Some of the effects may become permanent.

Now what varieties of magic exist in the setting? I want to try to represent most of what is available or leave it as an option.

>>85033740
Thanks I hate it.

>>85033740
>Sand magic (mentioned in the Nerim/Corteau Canyon page)
>Blood Magic/Necromancy/Shadowbinding ("dark" arts, mentioned in Avangar)
>Flesh magic (something between surgery and necromancy, I guess)
>Pyromancy
>Cryomancy (?)
>Druid magic/nature magic
>Conch magic

none other come to my mind, but I'm sure there's some

>>85033769
>Witch Magic

>>85033725
The paradise in Big rock candy mountain should be a wonder.
it's broadly defined as a paradise within the Big rock candy mountains south of Oront.
I'm still adding lore to it though.

>>85030502
wouldn't it make more sense for the lower stair to be the nothing?

>>85033798
but then where does the sun come from?

>>85033814
I honestly kind of like this idea more>>85030664
although they both go on the corner as apposed to the sides

>>85032871
>into the knight's throat flowed the liquid gold
>and within him a foreign happiness took hold
>freeing the chevalier from his bittersweet delusion
>slowly, he woke, and looked about with confusion

I came up with the idea that she-eep milk makes whoever drinks it feel happy, no matter his situation or circumstances.

>>85033868
If polls get rigged how will we ever decide on anything?

>>85033876
>I came up with the idea that she-eep milk makes whoever drinks it feel happy, no matter his situation or circumstances.
I love that.
t anon that wrote the She-eep

>>85033904
I think you tagged the wrong guy pal
I just wanna talk about the shape of the universe

>>85033876
>I came up with the idea that she-eep milk makes whoever drinks it feel happy, no matter his situation or circumstances.
this is canon now I'm writing it into the wiki

>>85033238
>>85033384

Calcrabian Mountains, Isle of Wizards, Drow City-States, Kinnog, The Triachy, Terpsythea, Azan Empire, Daligrad Province, Witch-Elven Empire, and Avangar all use a template for lore which provide at least some info on a wide range of topics.

Off the top of my head, Orc’eire, Ogchuk, Moreelse, Dominion of the Bog-Witch, Drunigzar, the Khaganate, Okhost, Biblion, and a few others also have a decent amount of detail, but there are some gaps.

There are also some that are interesting gimmicks, but minimal lore, or have some interesting lore, but mostly specific to one topic like history.

Furlaniya region has the best maps, though its lore is a bit vague.

>>85033497
Several of the nations I wrote.

Also I hate it in general when people try to find backdoors that allow them to retcon many regions at once, even if nothing I wrote is affected

>>85033725
Lindworm Bridge was briefly mentioned on thread 10 as a possible wonder. It is a big bridge that connects the northern continent to the main one

>>85033740
>>85033769
>>85033779
Planar magic is mentioned at one point, but it high tier stuff only long lived autists have a shot at understanding.

Succubi and probably bog witches have "mind addling magic", bog witches also have geas.

Ash magic was also mentioned, probably for TES-type drow living in the volcanic ash plains.

>>85033904
Most new lore is not controversial. If it is: established lore takes precedence, really bad ideas (usually fetish stuff) can be vetoed, unpopular ideas that affect multiple regions should be ignored.

>>85033523
very nice

>>85033876
>"Young master Bobbit, I do apologize,
>I had not realized it was time to rise
>I was dreaming of a time before it all happened,"
>off the pair set, both noticeably saddened

>so enveloped were they in feelings of loss
>the two did not notice where once was moss
>were now two patterns where they had both slept
>into which the roots of tree had crept

>>85034266
You know, I don't really like how those verses ended up. I can't delete the post, but just imagine that second one doesn't exist

>>85034120
>Succubi and probably bog witches have "mind addling magic"
bog witches have all sorts of magic

>>85034266
Appreciate this wholesome content between all the madness. Thanks anon!

>>85034400
Pretty sure many long lived and/or powerful individuals have access to many types of magic, I was just mentioning types of magic not covered under previous anon's lists.

>>85034593
Oh I see, all good in that case

New thread
>>85034498
>>85034498
>>85034498

>>85033725
Perhaps the Eternal Bastion of Nogar counts?

>>85034644
the what now

>>85025361
What program did you use to make that map?

>>85041886
gimp