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Current map

>>84963058
Current unclaimed lands

>Small Island north of fungest
>Land south of Oront
>Land north of Drouchont
>Island between Drunigzar and Nogar
>Small island near the Platinum princedom
>Island next to Kunt

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Current physical map.

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Current biome map.

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Current depth and underground map. Still needing a lot of work, specially the underground stuff. See >>84962657 for more info.

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In the middle of the Corteau Canyon lies a settlement called Rögnarey where the amazonian barbarian tribe of the Norskyries lives. The Norskyries have developed a special form of fighting in which they weave axe blades into their long braids of hair and attack their opponents or their prey with rotating movements similar to ballet pirouettes to inflict severe flesh wounds. They refer to this style of fighting as the Meat Cutter Dance. This technique is made possible by their extremely hard and resilient necks aswell a their superhumanly strong musculature and body tension. They are said to have descended from the primordial nordic godmother Freygga.

>>84963073
>>Island between Drunigzar and Nogar
Isn't that just part of Drunigzar?
>>84877002

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>>84963203

>>84877002
Could be? Although the old OP didn't paint it in the map so I left it as is.

>>84963203
What's up with the corteau canyon anyways? The whole of zemyland is cold taiga/tundra, while the canyon is a sand desert where corals exist, from a time when it was submerged underwater. Maybe despite it being a sand desert, it's actually a cold one, and the sand was created due to erosion?

And the aridness of the land is explained by the mountains that surround the canyon. And the empty land in the middle could actually be a plateau where it's actually snowy. I'm just trying to make sense out of this mess.

>>84963250
Thing is, if the drunigs needed to expand outwards in search of colonies, there's no way they'd ignore the island there's right in front of their kingdom.

>>84963046
What's the military powelrevel of the nations we have so far. What are the alliances? What strategies, troops and siege engines does each one use for combat?

>>84963250
>Maybe despite it being a sand desert, it's actually a cold one, and the sand was created due to erosion?
I mean, according to the biome map, it's high enough to have a mountainous biome, plus the center of the canyon is so isolated it's either a freezing desert of a massive glaciar there. Either that or it could be a massive freezing plain of salt, from the days it was underwater.

>>84963263
from my memory

>furlaniya city states and nars satrapies are in an alliance against the changrila empire
>Nosso lar, the mamuk and the star people form a defensive pact against the blind bastard's domain
>Azan (and their proxies) vs Witchelves

>>84963250
>What's up with the corteau canyon anyways
It's a former part of the ocean that either dryed up or got disconnected from the Okhelian ocean due to plate tectonics a long time ago. It's basically a canyon of dryed up and petrified corals and the white sand is a mixture of crushed corals, salt and remains of fish bones of former sea creatures. You could call it a desert, but it is a cold one and the fact that there is no snow has something to do with the high salt content of the soil

>>84963250
>corteau canyon
I'd say we should redcon the Human sized scarabs that live there and replace them with something more fitting for a cold climate since they kinda kill the aesthetic. The centipedes are cool in my book

>>84963203
Also they dwarf the average human fighter by being up to twice the size in height

>>84963353
What about this bugs? Wettas can survive in freezing climates by hibernating, maybe we coud do something with this.

>>84963353
what about wooly scarabs

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>>84963353
>>84963377
This ones.

https://strawpoll.com/polls/w4nWDkAYWgA

Poll about the shape of the world. We need to decide once and for all if the world is round or flat.

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>>84963377
Well ther's no point if they are constantly hibernating due to the freezing climate
>>84963386
Gotta say I really like the idea of giving the bug hair even though I'd still prefer Giant Wolly rhino beetles to scarabs which tend to be associated with egypt rather than russians or vikings

>>84963408
>>84963377
>>84963386
what about this

"Human sized centipedes and wooly scarabs roam the desert canyon, suited for the cold climate of the canyon, acting as scavengers and providing each other with the food and moisture that's needed to survive.

Even though the canyon is covered by a blanket of sand due to the erosion of the rocks and the corals, the climate is actually sub-arctic, the nights being particularly freezing. Despite that, snow and rain rarely fall on Corteau, with a small exception of the mountains and plateaus near the center of the canyon, where the Norskyrie amazons live."

>>84963408
>>84963386
Seconding the wolly rhino beetle option.

Does anyone have the coat of arms the drawfag designed some time ago

>>84963429
I say replace scarabs with woolly rhino beetles (that look somewhat similiar anyway) and make the centipedes woolly aswell

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>>84963451
What about the Barbegazi

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>>84963408
>Giant woolly rhino beetles
man now I want to have some art of that

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>>84963469
Personally I don't mind adding them as smaller fauna for the Canyon. Maybe they could live in the Coral caves. I wouldn't add much more though in order to not spoil the general aesthetics of a sparsely populated desert canyon. So should we settle on barbegazi for caves, giant woolly centipedes as predators, rhino beetles that live in large herds protecting against the centipedes and maybe one behemoth like omnivorous hercules beetle (about three times the size of the already giant rhino beetles) that roams the canyon as an aphex predator in search for food and a mate?

>>84963560
obviously the hercules beetle would be woolly aswell

>>84963327
>giant whale and sea serpent skeletons lying around
kino

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>>84963470
just imagine them woolly

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>>84963408
>>84963386
>>84963432
call them mammoth beetles or something

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i continue

North of the Fungest is the Crag Island. An aptly named island, full of deep, cavernous valleys, steep cliffs and underground rivers. Toxic pools that release deadly fumes form in the bottom of the valleys, making the majority of this alien island inhospitable.

A species of simians makes its home in the Crag, something between a baboon and a macaque. They mostly walk on four, although when fighting with swords and other weapons that they scavenge they can stand on two legs and fight. They are extremely territorial and attack anyone who gets close to their homes, which are built close to caves and trees near the poison pools at the bottom of the valleys.

These apes worship a serpent-like god. A journal from a Gvilder trading cog that mistakenly landed on the shores of the Crag details that there's a giant ape amongst the other simians, three times their size. It wields the log of a large tree as a weapon and it has a tattoo of a serpent on its back and chest.

>>84963792
>>84963560
What about instead of a hercules beetle it's a giant wooly scorpion instead, since those were already mentioned in the lore?

also what's the relationship between the valkyries and the nerim

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>>84963821
Gave them icelandic names to fit the nordic theme
>>84963792
>left
Nashyrningurbjalla
>middle
Margfætla
>right
Mammútbjalla

>>84963890
When I wrote the Nerim the island was pretty much empty so I went with an arabic themed people, since these creatures don't live at the high peaks where the Valkyries are (I assume) I think it makes more sense to give them arabic-like names, or something inbetween.

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>>84963203
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South of the Oront Mountains there's an inhabited land, empty of civilization for many years. This area is the only place in the world where the infamous great giant magpies breed and nest. This violent species of bird are the size of a small adult man, and in general they are peaceful creatures and intelligent creatures. However, once a year the magpies migrate from all corners of the Giantstep continent to mate and nest at this specific point in the land. Nobody really knows why this is the only spot where they reproduce, but regardless of the reason, during mating season this birds abandon their peaceful ways to become extraordinarily violent and dangerous. Any creature big enough to pose a threat is mercilessly butchered, their remains put in the open as a warning to any other intruders. This includes not only humans, but also regular local fauna and even herd animals. Every structure that was built in the area will be torn down to pieces, and only the strongest stone reinforced with repellent magic will be able to keep them at bay. And even then, that's only a temporary solution, as the magpies will wait for the inhabitants to come out, effectively sieging them until starvation and death. Thus, the populations of the area live in underground lairs, remaining most of the year preparing and hoarding their resources for the months of breeding and nesting they'll have to stay below ground. This also includes their cattle, which is composed of a combination of sheep and farm worms the size of pigs. Due to the inability to fight off the magpies, no nation currently has any interest in occupying the land.

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The Lotus Islands are home to a rare variety of black lotus flowers that exude a powerfully intoxicating scent that induces an opium-like effect on anyone who smells it. When the flowers of the plant are eaten or drunk as a tea, the effect is even more powerful and can be compared to an ecstasy ten times the intensity of pure heroin. Due to the irresistible and highly addictive nature of these plants, no one who has set foot on the island has ever left. The inhabitants of the island are called the Loutus eaters, they do nothing else all day but get high on the flowers and lie around blissfully. Apart from the incredibly strong physical and mental dependence development, the consumption of these plants has no negative side effects.

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Here lies an impenetrable thicket of mighty black thorn tendrils. What lies within is unknown, as no one who entered the Thornwood has ever returned. Many have tried to burn the thicket, but the seemingly dry thorn bush has proven to be extremely heat-resistant. Up to three adult horses can be impaled on the larger thorns of this undergrowth.

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>>84964169
visualization

>>84963120
looks good so far, dwarves and goblin caves should be pretty easy to add, see >>84928434

claiming island next to Kunt for the dreaded wharf

>>84963956
Hobbit, Gnome and Brownieland have been renamed to Hereby, Whereby and Thereby

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>>84964169
>>84964081
>>84964064
Here you go.

>>84964294
When? I must have missed that.

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On the Uckerath mountains there are seven castles. They are ruled by vengeful barons and baronesses who are at war with each other and who send their Landsknechte against each other every day. The bloody feuds sometimes go back as far as thirty generations. Both men and women are drafted into the mercenary armies. The more violent and abominable the soldiers behave in the enemy's lands, the greater the reward of their master or mistress

>>84964356
during the saga of bobbit the hobbit

>>84964395
Okay, I'll include them in the next (and final) update. Only two places left empty, with one claimed already.

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>>84964381

>>84964401
>final
What about the further addition of cities n shit?

>>84964426
I mean I can always update those, but I think the political map will be a better reference point once it gets completed, or maybe a mixed map that includes stuff from this one.

>>84963908
Considering the there are other arabic regions on the southern part of the map already and that the canyon lies between nations highly inspired by scandinavia and russia I don't think that fits the general vibe of the continent

>>84964468
yes but those were written after mine, and the southern part of the continent was supposed to be cold initially

>>84964445
alright cool

>>84964483
the copper, silver and gold kingdom were added before the canyon and all of them are taken from russian folklore.

>>84964508
that doesn't mean that the whole island has to be russian-themed, especially when those were added with 0 lore added (and still don't have any).

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>>84964519
The climate map clearly shows the continent being arctic and sub-arctic. Arabs or arabic languages feel out off place in such an environment

>>84964551

>>84964519
>>84964483

You can't just retcon something because you don't like it, especially when it was written before the theme of the continent was fleshed out.

>>84964519
Can't we just make them Central Asia themed?

>>84964573
I'm just saying it clashes with the overall vibe

>>84964573
>>84964602
I think it's also been said that Nerim are of different origins than the Zemylanders (russian inspired) and the Hyperboreans/Alltaf (nordic-slavic inspired), so maybe central-asian would fit more.

>>84964593
that would make a little more sense to be

Also we should have honestly decide on a weeb island from the beginning. All the not!eastasian countries getting mixed in with european, african and arabic ones on the mainland is giving me a headache

>>84964294
i thought hthey were going to be more colloquial but yeah, makes sense

>>84964426
i think adding them as they are introduced into lore is the best way to keep track, instead of trawling back through everything to see if a city is in one place or another

>>84964639
agreed

>>84964624
>>84964593
>>84964614
They don't have to be 1:1 counterparts of their real life cultures. The Nerim could be speaking an arabic-like language, have caucasian/central asian customs and look like white people.

Same for the changrila, they could be asian people with many greek/middle eastern influences.

>>84964657
alright go ahead and tell us a litlle bit about their culture and customs

>>84964401
>Only two places left empty,
Which ones?

>>84964761
Island next to Kunt (claimed) and there's also a little bit of land between the platinum princedom

>>84964767
>a little bit of land between the platinum princedom
claimed for frog nixies

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Ok, so the depth map is going to be very filled with underground stuff. I'll name the important ones and the ones that already have lore written. Any suggestions? What should I add where?

>>84964791
btw, for the land depth map, the Kinoog Jungle pretty sure has lore about underground cities and so do the Golden Skulls knightlands

>>84964791
Add the leviathan and the not!marianna trench in the southeast

>>84964825
>not!marianna trench
>10.000m

>>84964812
Blackstone Prison island (labyrinth bay) also is mentioned to have a huge dungeons that stretch way deep below

>>84964825
>Add the leviathan and the not!marianna trench in the southeast
Is the trench east of Squid Peninsula?

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>>84964780
The amphibious water folk of the Pondlings live on two different islands in the Northern Sea. The females (also called Nixes) are human sized frog creatures, usually inhabiting a lake, river or coast the males (also called Vodniks) only live in mill ponds and are the patriarchal rulers of the society. The Pondling cities are located at the bottom of lakes or rivers and consist of several floors. They use silt, driftwood, and seaweed to construct them. The females of the species are restless and constantly busy, while the males are very lazy and spend most of the day smoking marshweed. When angered, the males as well as the females break dams, wash down water mills or drown people and animals. Consequently, fishermen, seamen and millers make sacrifices to appease the Pondlings. The male Pondlings will sometimes drag people down to their underwater dwellings to serve them as slaves. In order for the slaves to be able to breathe underwater, they are fed a special type of algae called gillweed. The female pondlings have exceptionally muscular lower legs and calves, and can easily snap a rib cage with a kick of their webbed frog legs. The males are polygamous and each one has a harem of females whose size depends on its authority, which is measured by his behavior the quality of his marshweed and the length of his fishtail. The females return to their home pond once a year to lay their spawn

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>>84965156

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>>84964865
Yes I'd suggest it goes somewhat like this

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The island of Nerega lies east of the Red Pirate temple of Kunt. Even though it was under the Republic of Vilga before their annexation by Avangar, they saw little use of occupying it, instead only building a big lighthouse to guide the way for sailing ships.

Also built by the Vilgans was a small naval base at the southern point of the island, inside an isolated cove which lies within the shelter of a dark cavern worn into the cliffs by the relentless ocean. The base was converted into a prison, and after the war it was subsequently abandoned.

Although the Vilgans have abandoned it, its now overrun by former inmates, pirates from Kunt and also smugglers and corsairs of the Quamona Tong, the driving faction of the Vilgan resistance against Avangar, sailing back and forth between Nerega and their base in Zeresh.

This thriving, bustling town full of pirates and other scroundrels is now appropriately called the "Dreaded Wharf". Many dangerous creatures and animals can be found in the markets of the Dreaded Wharf. One such creature are the Stalkers, also nicknamed "the Spider Monkey". Although deadly, they can follow the orders of their master, like a trained hound would. They have unusually long and strong arms and hate sunlight, often lurking in the shadows in order to ambush their prey. It's said that they were created by a shadowbinder in Alga, their distribution made illegal everywhere else in the east.

>>84963073
Claiming land south of Oront as Big Rock Candy Mountain.

>>84965458
It's already been filled my mangus

>>84964405

is it fine if I extend the Timavo river to the mountains? I need a lake of stew and a river of whisky.

>>84964064
so is it inhabited or empty of civilization? I don't get it.

>>84965516
>river of whisky
already a thing. lurk harder

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>>84965501
no?
these are two different places

>>84965564
I quoted the wrong post, my bad.

>>84964064

>>84965545
All attempts of creating a state have failed. The only people who've managed to stay are those who work there the rest of the year and either move away before the birds arrive, or go underground. Thus, the population is ridiculously low.

>>84965546
actually seeing the whisky river in the north is what gave me the idea of making the big rock candy mountains

>>84965458
Already claimed by the birds.

>>84963046
Any update on dividing the continent on thematic zones for ease of classification? Because it's getting hard to know who trades with who at this point.

>>84963826
Finally the Witchelven jog fixed

>>84965623
We'd need to make a city world map first.

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>>84965343
>>84965156
>>84964381
And with those, the map is now finally 100% filled in!

>>84965690
We did it!

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Ok, so should I fill more the east, the and the Azan Empire? Am I missing something?

Also, >>84965690 congratulations!

>>84965690
BASED

If you were to take 10-15 nations of this world and make a separate setting, which ones would you take?

So, to recap, the ancient civilizations from the top of my head are:

>Khenomerians/erics
>Brassmen of Qadash
>Eterans
>Dragon Empire
>Merfolk Empire
>Old Hyperborea (although they do still exist)
>Lots of sunken empires

>>84966162
Do giants count as civilizations? There used to be a lot of those.

>>84966179
oh, I forgot about those of the giant valley.

Prophecies in the setting. List them.

So, with the physical and biome map near completion and the political map finallyfilled, we need to see what else we need to do:

-Political map with cities, nation's capitals, main roads and trade routes. Most nations and regions have little to no cities located on the map, even some of the big ones. We'd need number of cities, their location, capital if there's one, trade routes between the different powers...
-An approximate general timeline of the world. Maybe a common mythology and cosmogony.
-How the flat world works: The night/day cycle, seasons, its relation with magic, how the Emptiness affects the world...
-Adding more lore to the more lacking spots. We could check the wiki for those places with very little lore.
Anything else we might need?

Half of the map is forests/swamps/deserts that are unoccupied/uninhabited. Many such places in real life belonged to states around them (like western sahara, or swamps in europe etc).

Would it be fair to assume that, for example, the Jibaro Wetlands are part of the Azan Empire (with some belonging to Gautlan) even though there are few people living there? Same with the warmog forest, stymphalian swamps, chill steppe, vodyanik lands, land of the lord descended from the sky, strange meadows, etc etc

In the end the political map could be much more cohesive

>>84966162
Old Khelek predates the Merfolk Empire
Western Elven Empire
Lesandros

>>84966428
>We'd need number of cities
We would need to agree on the scale of the map and population numbers first, maybe better to just add the main trade cities in each nation for now

>An approximate general timeline of the world
Azan/Dragon Empire started breaking up around one millennium ago, which is also when the Drow and Witch-Elves started becoming big players, so that is an important milestone for the west and south portions of the map

>>84966524
Jibaro Wetlands, stymphalian swamps, warmog forest are all technically part of Azan, as well as several other regions listed in the long Azan entry

Chill Steppe has tribesmen fighting Grobianismus, so they are more or less sovereign, ditto for land of the lord...

Certain other places are just to shitty no one probably even pretends to claim them since they are uninhabited by civilized folk and uncharted

>>84966832
>>84966524
Also the spider forest, the ashen shore, the great oak forest, several of the forests in the middle of the map, dark bog, urine woods, old nogar and some others are lands next to civilized states that could claim them.

>>84966428
>approximate general timeline of the world
in the beginning, the land was wild and full of strange creatures (elves, gnomes, hobbits, fairies, giants, etc)
humans and others like them (dwarves, merfolk, etc) wanted to tame the land
the wild fought back, making lots of dark creatures with the help of demons
the humans and their allies made several great empires (dragon, khenomeric, merfolk) to continue settling land, much of world civilized except north and extreme south
at various points, dragon empire and khenomeric dissolve, merfolk empire destroyed, many areas become wild again
humans in the north belatedly start making some kingdoms, with help from refugees from elsewhere
evil nations like drow, witch-elves, and gnolls start to spread

and then there is the food lands, which got spliced in from another dimension at some point

>>84967086
what about the timeline of Zemyland

that's the most fucked up

>wrote Seagard as them being worshippers of Merfolk
>Merfolk was actually a human empire all along

Uhhhh what do I do now? I think it makes sense to write them as them being a succesor state of the Merfolk since they have statues and shrines of tridents and shit.

>>84967162
merfolk empire got written as being made up by four human and one merfolk kingdom, with overall leadership held by merfolk

the empire was destroyed after their god got bored

>>84967139
probably small human cultures existed there for millennia, butting heads with the frost elves, but only more recently did a large wave of humans arrive from the south, who are considered the zemylanders

what about religions lads?

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>>84966832
>scale of the map
Map anon here. I thought we had agreed with this measurements. With 1 inch of the map = 250km, I calculate that the world is around 212,5 millions of square km. Which is half the size of the Earth, but with a land surface much bigger proportionally.

how far is one cm on the map?

>>84967699
Each square of the map is 1X1 inch.

>>84965690
We did it Reddit

>>84966162
>>84966179
>>84966185
I also bet the Snoloths were already around back then

>>84966524
Yeah I can imagine the Gnoll Empire claims the Kinga Badlands as their own for religious reasons.

>>84967678
I feel like that's a weird way to measure things but I'm a eurofag so that's probably why

>>84967678
Yeah seems like a good number.

>>84966162
the extinct bookling dwarves that build the great library

>>84967798
The Kinga badlands are ppoulated by a bunch of tribes so I imagine the political map would be split between them. I meant mostly areas not inhabited by sentient races, like the stymphalian swamps for example.

>>84967832
>extinct
or are they?

>>84967832
if the dwarves built the library, then where do the librarianfolk and owlmen come from

>>84967889
From the books

>>84967889
they just moved in

>>84967889
>>84967966
>librarianfolk
humans that evolved into another stage of conscioussness over generations by reading lot's of literature. don't ask me how this worked probably epigenetics or some shit.
>>84967889
>owlmen
descendants from owl deities living in the old hyperborean forests

>>84968013
so those have been employed at the library ever since the dwarves built it?

alright gonna write some avangar lore tomorrow

if anyone has experience with editing wikis they can do it with this one and make it look better

>>84968098
no but the dwarves left the upper part of the library abandoned at some day and moved into the catacombs (this is when humans moved into Xandrilex and build their cities and villages around it). Then some day the dwarves disappeared completely and the catacombs kept getting more and more dangerous due to bookimistic experiments, book hunters and animals moving in. the old underground cities of the dwarves still exist somewhere down there but nobody got deep enough to ever see them with his own eyes

>>84968133
Also the booklings aren't "conventional" dwarves but they are said to be terrifying. Nobody knows what they look like anymore

>>84967521
We can make the southwest believe in a mixture of a great prophet and a mandate of heaven, given that they have the not-mongols, changrila and heavy azan influences.

Maybe the heaven thing derives from the old dragon religion, and the great prophet is a later addition?

we're working on a religions map now?

>>84968267
I think we should focus on other things now. The religion map would benefit a lot from writting more lore beforehand.

>>84966428
alright i'm gonna make a local map, quit naggin'

>>84968237
there is a vague explanation of the Azan/Dragon Empire religion in the Azan entry

probably at one point everyone in the Azan/Dragon Empire was a follower, at least on paper

but after the collapse of the Azan//Dragon Empire, there probably was a lot of regional variants formed, some old religions made a comeback, and some completely new religions got formed

>>84968281
seconded spare relion and gods for last since it will be an inevitable clusterfuck

>>84967521
>Seagard
Merfolk Religion
>Avangar
Avangar religion, assumingly the other provinces as well
>The Triarchy
Several pantheons
>Drow city states
Several gods
>Scarred Phantoms
God of Death
>Area around Fehrum Edzulair
Dragon god(?)
>Hogmen Island
Dragon god
>Sea Elves and Chrysovica (?)
God of Thunder Caijin
>Kalydon
Archarom Religion
>Maneater Islands
Multiple religions probably
>Arangea/Etera and Moonlight Shores/Rosmarinus Estates
Moon Worship
>Alltaf
Some kind of monotheistic god
>Otamlar
same
>Tenzin
Something related to the hidden city? I'm unsure
>Land of the god descended from the sky
duh
>Vodyanik
Fish gods

Can't think of anything else

>>84968334
save this for later anon politics and in depht lore first also let's concentrate on filling the underdark map

>>84963046
The age of consent in most regions is 14.

>>84968394
hi avatarfag! where's that loli pic you usually post?

>>84968424
i think you are confusin me with someone else. who is avatarfag?

how deep goes the blackstone prison

>>84968456
>i think you are confusin me with someone else
I don't

>>84968494
i have never avatarfagged

>>84968507
sure

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Ok, the depth map is well underway.

For the most part the map is dominated by either natural caves and goblin nests.

The drow holds are easy enough, but I may have missed some areas in which there ought to be some.

Dwarven ones I'm sure I've missed some, both occupied and abandoned, if you can indicate me where, I'd be thankful.

Human undergrounds are a mix of abandoned cities, underground cities and other different things. I need to re-read the lore to find most of this.

Also, I've made an example of how to put the map info in the Isle of Wizards. Basically the name and known max depth. If you can think of a better system, I'm all ears, specially before I start introducing data.

>>84968652
what are the little yellow triangles

>>84968652
shouldn't there be magma caves in the magma dragon islands?

>>84968666
Mountains and volcanoes. I put them there just to make sure I don't put any cave on the world's highest peaks.

>>84968666
nice digits satan

I'm the guy who wrote much of the Blind Bastard Domain's lore, does anyone have any suggestions for editing the wiki? Would anyone like to draw some cool pirates to add to the page? Also if Renne seems like a Mary Sue it's because she's based on my Elden Ring character, so any help would be highly appreciated.

>>84968766
Can't help with that but maybe a new name's in order?

>>84963046
did yall get to adding Bob Marley? One Love friends....

>>84968776
I'm thinking something pirate themed? It is entirely a rump state meant to feed Renne's conspiracy so I figured she wouldn't name it for the same reason you don't name a chicken. But BBD is a mouthful so something nautical would be great.

Who are the best fighters in the world?

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>>84969175
Mike Tyson

>>84969175
Elyrians, the Nerim, the dwarves and the berserkers

So what type of underdark are we going with? Is travel to and from supposed to be easy, is there a lot of contact, etc?

>>84969548
crab people

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>>84969175
The Red Queen and her daughter are very powerful hero units
(dnd class would be rangers)

>>84969208
>>84969581
But can she take Kid Dynamite?

Who would be the BBEG of this setting? There aren't really any kind of lovecraftian gods or primal evils as far as I remember

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>>84969662
Undying Lich George Soros

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>>84969175
Warriors
>Norskyries
>Florinthian Elite Guard
>Witchelven Furies

Wizards
>Scatomancers
>Bog Witches
>Conch Mages

"Scientists"
>Astromancers
>Tarot Kingdom Alchemists
>Bookimists

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>>84969662
Amber Heard

>>84969662
Morrigan (the OG bog witch) would probably not be imperialist enough to be the BBEG of the setting but she would definitely fill the Saruman niche. Also she has a pretty big pool of minions to command and could raise a frighteningly large army in no time

>>84969733
>>84969718
>Evil Witch
>Not Amber Heard

Why do you do this anon?

>>84969208
>>84969688
>>84969718
>>84969743
>escapism
you are doing it wrong

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>>84969662

>>84969750
I like to put real life people in my campaigns. Make them seem more real.

>>84969769
well go ahead and keep doing that but leave them out of these threads

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WIP detailed map. Taking name suggestions for all the settlements.

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May I suggest a villain? Vandervax the Vile, a centuries old lich who lives in a tower. His motivations and plots take years come into play but he is known as a ruthless and prolific schemer, always plotting to gain more power.

>>84970012
Other anons feel free to add more detailed points to his backstory, where he lives what he wants etc. Just felt like this needed a lich.

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>The Flying Castle of Lugubrum
Is a demon core powered levitating structure ruled by the Dark Wizard Zwackelman. His minions are nine dark-cloaked lich warriors who use black hellsteel man-catchers as wands and ride on red dragons that also inhabit the castle. When a fight ensues, they hurl shadow bolts at their foes, and those who dodge these deadly magic beams are torn apart by their hungry dragons. Lugubrum is at the same time, fort, residence but above all a flying siege engine with which Zwackelman flies over the country and sends out his henchmen to raid and rob castles. Pig orcs stand atop the numerous Dark Towers, shooting arrows which they ignite in great bowls of flame to burn down villages and set fire to keeps. The rest of the goons populating the Lugubrum are a motley mix of goblin-like creatures that fall roughly into the categories of lizard-snouts, crow-beaks, long-ears and goat-horns. They are armed with rusty halberds, long knives, spiked flails and morning stars. Aside from his secret phylactery, Zackelman's most prized possession is his Pain Crystal Orb, through which he can scout anywhere in the world for amusement or to decide whether a heist is worthwhile. Both peasants and kings tremble when they hear the horror stories of the flying Black Castle. Many dismiss it as a horror story out of fear it might haunt them too

>>84969966
looks very nice so far anon! just like your digits

>>84970018
Does he live in Okhost? Because I somehow don't see him living in the Gruyere peaks.

>>84970023
bbeg material right there

The Gnoll Empire is kind of a big evil at least to the east part of the continent, Nogar had to abandon half it's lands. Also the Merfolk old god destroyed and twisted his own civilization on a whim and then left the universe so that's pretty scummy but I don't think he's coming back

>>84970277
gnoll empire is too stupid to pull off anything big

>>84970286
Well they got far enough as to have the biggest nation in the known world, although I don't know if the demographics or population ever got explained

>>84970195
yeah sure he can live there

Has anyone expanded on the witch-elves themselves? Like what they look like how long they live and if they're naturally magical?

just read the wiki, I think the entry for castle seawood isn't canon and instead refers to castle seafood which should definetly be canon somewhere on the map

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>>84965690
oh forgot my contribution
now it's done

>>84969966
How does this coincide with the physical map?

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>>84971657
It matches with the main map and that's all that matters.

>>84971728
I mean the rivers, the only one of those that's in the physical map is the Timavo River. Do the rest have names? That way I can add the bigger ones to the map.

>>84970012
>>84970195
>>84970455
Vandervax the Vile lives in Okhost, which he rules over from the dreaded city of Vukasin.

Kingdom of Grobianismus

The Medieval Mudcore Kingdom is located to the relative east of the continent. Everything stinks is soacked in a muddy green-brownish color palette and people are farting, shitting and raping everywhere. From this place the black plague originated which is just like the irl plague but the suffering takes three times as long and is considerably more painful. There's also a comically evil Inquisition that burns everyone at the stake for even the slightest suspicion of being a witch which can be everything from having sex before marriage, having red hair or being called a witch by literally anyone. Everyone has really bad manners and behaves like described in the lyrical style of medieval Grobianismus known from works like the Narrenschiff. Nobody bathes, Horses can't enter towns because the mud is knee deep on a good day, pigs are everywhere, the average lifespan is 30 years and everyone who isn't a peasant fucks their relatives to keep the bloodline pure the peasants just do it for fun. The favorite weapon is the flail and people keep coming up with ridicolously elaborate torture devices which is pretty much the only innovation coming from there. There's a weird psychoanalytical fixation on excrement going on and the humor, art and poetry from this nation are nothing but fart jokes. People are scared as shit to go to hell but for some strange reason they just seem to do everything they can to go there after death despite comitting suicide. Everyone except the caricaturesque noblemen who are ugly as sin and wipe their asses with how much gold they have, is really fucking poor, miserable and basically a slave. Think Pasolini's most abysmal scat fantasy crossed with the Peasants from Monty Python's holy grail.

LMAO we need to expand the lore for this!

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>>84971728
Here's a pic overlapping. There's a river that breaks gravity.

>>84968334
Gnoll Empire and most Ogres follow the faith of the Great Maw

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>>84968666
Each one is one of these bad boys.

What other worlds are budding up against this one by the way? Something horrifying to swallow men's souls or just some really weird places with really weird rules.

>>84970277
lbr everyone's done that in their discarded eu4 saves

>>84970947
I think most of their stuff so far is on the wiki:
https://crumbling-giantstep.fandom.com/wiki/Witchelven_Empire?so=search

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this is all subject to change, just smashing shit together.

>>84972317
looks nice so far. Are these smaller cities subject to the bigger ones?

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>History
The Empire of Avangar was nowhere near an empire no less than 25 years ago. It was rather a collection of tribes that lived around the Elyrian swamps, near the middle of the smallstep continent. The Elyrians - as they're called - had settled in that area for more than a few centuries. Oral stories of the Elyrian elders describe that they fled from the west to the east, being subject to slavery and oppression of all kinds. They made the marshes of Elyria their home, as the peaceful people living the woods to the west did not bother them.

They had developed a distinct culture from the people around them and they made their homes either on huts by the water, or inside damp caves, finding ways to seal them off from the various creatures of the swamp, as well as mosquitoes. The harsh environment they found themselves shaped them like fine clay, with many Elyrians being described as the most fierce warriors in the world, fighting like bloodthirsty demons, by many foreigners who tried to invade their lands.

They had been living peacefully until around 150 years ago, when a horde of humans migrated from the south. These humans were not peaceful and swept everything in their way. Although not conquered, a lot of the Elyrians perished in these clashes, with many women and children raped or taken as slaves. These wars hardened the Elyrians even more, and they began conditioning their sons and daughters to be suitable for any kind of conflict.

From that day, every Elyrian child could scavenge by itself in the swamp, camouflage appropriately and use poisonous ranged weapons, as well as finish off the wounded enemy soldiers during wars.

[1]

>>84972614
Each territory in the swamp was governed by a Dratko, an elder of the swamps, although the elders held an annual council where they discussed the most important matters of their people.

The Elyrians that lived in caves considered the ones that lived in small towns to be soft and weak, neglecters of traditions, and usually excluded them from their councils.

The Elyrians have spoken of many prophecies in the past. One of them describes that one day a foreigner would land in their shores, who would learn their customs and manage to unite the tribes, something that had never happened before. It was around 30 years ago that a boy - no older than 20 years old - found his way in the swamps. His real name has been erased from any records by now, but many scholars argue that he came from the west, reasons unknown, from a hospitable land with bountiful harvest, unlike the Elyrian marshes.

The boy then joined the tribe of the Elder Zvedo, but not without being tested first. He was extremely fast at learning their traditions, language and even taming the beasts of the swamp. From being called a soft outlander boy, the Elyrians started to respect him and his natural abillity at magic, and some even were in awe, whispering of connections to the old prophecy..

The Elyrians were having another problem, however. The Elyrian marshes and swamps were starting to get colder and colder, with even the caves being harder to live in during the winter months, as even the still waters started freezing. With many animals decreasing in population and trees dying, food became even scarcer, and there were many discussions amongst the Elders of migrating to the west, as there was also rumours of the Platinum Princedom preparing a new offensive campaign against them.

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>>84972684
However, these rumours soon turned to reality, as the Princedom's soldiers swarmed the swamps to the south. The foreign boy lead many skirmishers on the side of his elder, Zedko, all being a success, as his use of sorcery was sublime. It had been already 2 years since the boy had been living with the Elyrians, and he was starting to be indistinguishable from the natives.

The attack by the Platinum Princedom was ultimately a failure, with the Elyrians celebrating a decisive victory, although it had left them scarred once more, with many losses to speak of. The boy quickly started gaining the support of the Elyrian's youth, with many truly believing him to be the man prophecized by the legend. Whispers started to spread that he should challenge Zedko in order to usurp the leadership of the tribe, as that was the only way of succesion, according to Elyrian ways.

One day, the boy came to the council of the Elders with a proposition. He were to use his sorcery in order to forge a large flame that would magically heat the marshes of Elyria, making it a hospitable place once more. The Elders were very reluctant at first, as they feared the boy's increasing popularity among the youth, but eventually accepted.

In a construct of unparalleled magnificence, the Tower of the Eternal Fire - as it's now called - was erected no less than a year later. At the top, a flame the size of a house burned. Even though many Elders were superstitious about fire magic, they could only look at astonishment at the Elyrian swamps, slowly being unfrozen and large part of the wildlife's population recovering. The boy was soon given a new name, "Avangar", meaning the bringer of light in the Elyrian language. His real name was never uttered by any Elyrian ever again.

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>>84972759
Elyrians from the surrounding villages and even from the caves soon made their home around the Tower of the Eternal Fire, founding the biggest Elyrian settlement yet, Alga.

Zedko, who had taken the mantle of being the unofficial leader of the swamp people, was pressured into challenging Avangar for the leadership, in fear of being the one challenged first. Zedko, who was one of the finest warriors of Elyria, knew that he would have absolutely no chance against Avangar, even if the latter made no use of his sorcery. But those were the ways of the Elyrians. Only one man would walk out alive, with him being crowned the leader of the tribe.

When Zedko challenged Avangar to a duel, Avangar declined. His magic had gotten stronger, and he started to be able to read the mind and body language of everyone around him with near perfection. He knew that Zedko was afraid of him. But more than being feared, he was respected. Avangar explained to Zedko that the only way for the Elyrian people to prosper was through uniting and settling their differences. These customs of killing one another for the sake of succession only helped in winding down the capable males that could lead the Elyrians.

Through persuasion, Zedko did something that no Elyrian Elder had done before. He defied the sacred customs, and instead declared Avangar the absolute leader of the Elyrians in front of the whole council. Avangar's ascension was celebrated by almost everyone. Avangar taught the Elyrians how to use magic and manipulate the elements, his own skill having grown enormously since his earlier days.

Having been universally accepted as the savior from the prophecies, he was revered as some kind of demigod. People started praying to him for health and fortunes, often forsaking their old gods of the swamp.

Alga soon became a bustling city, with many flocking everyday from the swamps to Avangar's Great Hall to ask him for advice and pray to him.

>>84972848
Avangar should wed Zedko's daughter, who gave birth to two of his children. Many wars were subsequently started against the Tarot Kingdom to the south and people living in the east, all of them succesful. The Elyrians started to worship Avangar as a god, waving his banner as they charged into battle, shouting their zealous war-cries. Avangar was no more a leader of the Elyrians, but rather a divine figure, an Emperor whose Empire took his own name.

The woodcutter cities of the west recognized the might of Avangar and offered themselves as tributaries, while also adopting the Avangar religion. Thousands of pilgrims visited Alga every month to pray at the temples of Avangar, as well as the Tower of the Eternal Flame, whose light burned brighter than ever.

The life of the Elyrians had changed in less than 20 years. Very few lived in the caves anymore. The youth did not need to learn the ways of the swamp, scavenging off the land to survive. The worship of the swamp gods and spirits had fizzled out, and use of magic was widespread amongst the youth, something that was only reserved by specific elderly women. They saw their centuries old traditions turn to smoke before their very eyes. Many (former) Elders were suspicious of change, but they didn't want to admit it.

>>84972979
Avangar would wed*

One of Avangar's policies was allowing all kinds of magic to be practiced in Avangar, with the capital of Alga being the centre of the dark arts of the world. People from all over the Continent sailed to Alga to study and practice necromancy, pyromancy, blood magic and other horrible arts that were forbidden in most of the world. He also outlawed many of the many brutal and savage customs that the Elyrians would often practice, such as leaving the children born with any deformations in the swamp to die.

It all came crumbling down 8 years ago, when Avangar was blinded by a conspiracy against him. Unwanting to be seen as weak and feeble by his own people, he willingly wandered in the swamp by his own, as the old custom dictated, never to be seen again.

That was seen not as Avangar's death, but his completed ascension towards Godhood. The reigns of the Empire were soon taken by his wife, Tamara, until his son was to come of age. The Royal family was seen as holy and sacred, and Tamara took advantage of this, as she used the abundant riches gained by Avangar to build to expand the Great Hall of Avangar in Alga, turning it into a gargantuan palace, such that could field an entire city inside it. The clergy of Avangar expanded and became the leading force and authority of the Empire, entrapping it in a voracious net of bureaucracy.

Tamara used the clergy as her shield, and being a native Elyrian herself she housed a natural disdain towards any foreigner, unlike her husband. She soon passed a law that demanded of any foreigners who set their foot in Alga to wear a mask that hid their face, something they could prove with no trouble.

As Avangars' 10 year old son, Ausar, is showing signs of his father's expertise with magic and is being groomed to rule, Tamara is preparing for an invasion of the Platinum Princedom, aiming to take the entirety of smallstep's northern coast.

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>>84966524
The Land of the Scatomancers and the Piss forest probably belong to the Kingdom of Grobianismus in some way

So what are the nations doing against the nothing? Seems like a pretty existential thread

>>84973692
Is the Nothing even advancing? Or is it just there in the ocean?

>>84973715
It's advancing

>>84973740
Can it just move with the tides? otherwise I'm not sure what anyone could do about it.

>>84973775
It's already canon that the Nothing has a harbinger called the Gmork, and why would a harbinger exist if there's nothing coming? no pun intended

>>84973805
gmork will get his ass kicked by the archaic evil spider

>>84973826
It does not matter if he lves or dies he's just the harbinger. Killing him is like shooting the messenger. The Nothing will follow eventually

where is the drawfag

Map anon here. I'me updated the underground map and added but ratmen burrows and hobbit burrows. Any other important icon needed to be added?

Also, which are, lore-wise, the most important underground points in the world? Because adding names, numbers and lore for all of this is too much. I can just add the most important ones and leave the rest to whoever wants to write lore for them.

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>>84974674
Here's the map.

>>84974688
Succubi Breaches, Biblion and the Leviathan cadaver

does this setting have dimeritium

>>84975030
what the fuck is that

>>84971764
Well that’s one villain down

>>84971764
But Vukasin is ruled by a council of skeleton priest, who while not particularly nice people aren't actively seeking out to do evil. Give him his own evil tower, the islands are big enough.

>>84975533
i thought that a lich ruled the okhost islands, according to the lore atleast

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>>84974688
Added the Succubus breaches, mostly close to the frontiers to profit from travellers and other unsuspecting victims. Biblion was already added there. As for the Leviathan cadaver, the lore says the lost continent below the Sea of Bile was sunk due to the beast's weight, so I've added another sunken underground.

>>84976190
how many lost continents are there

>>84975627
Yeah one does according to the wiki - “ A nefarious lich rules over the islands from the dreaded city of Vukasin.”

I like the idea of giving him a name. Vandervax the Vile

https://strawpoll.com/polls/w4nWDkAYWgA

By the way, this is still going. We need to decide the world's shape.

>>84976361
maybe the lich created the army of the skeleton priests?

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>>84972317

Ayuzawa – Home to a small school teaching sword magic of the eastern tradition
Candida – Several mercenary companies have been hired to clear this region of trolls for future settlement
Emrera – Large border garrison, protects inner regions from the Troll Wastes
Euthymius – Famous wine making city
Gregorius – Massive fort. Originally built to support a long forgotten plan to reabsorb the Furlaniyan cities, now mostly defends against trolls
Hillgrad – Mining town with four large dwarf clans in addition to its human inhabitants
Lascari – Hilltop town that services a number of nearby villas and vineyards
Lucapena – Garrison town that patrols the river upstream
Narses – Pretty typical regional city. Has a good university and mages college
Nichiren – Home to a scandal ridden nunnery
Planudes – Major tourism center during the summer due to its large beaches and tree shaded villas. Has a bit of a seedy side, but still far safer than Ampleazzo
Prudentius – Home to several finely crafted bridges. It is said to be good luck to jump nude from the tallest bridge, though this sometimes results in injury
Yarakan – Popular retirement community for aged adventurers and thieves

>>84976190
even the parts of the biblion catacombs that have been explored by bookhunters are at least 1km deep

>>84976936
thanks - i'll add them in.

>>84976936
godspeed anon

going to write some more avangar lore later or maybe tomorrow

>Government
The leader of Avangar is Emperor Ausar I, although Ausar's mother, Tamara, rules as Empress Regent until he's of age.

She has full authority on most decisions concerning the governance, although the clergy mantains a lot of power when it comes to day to day operations, including law enforcement, religious authority and other bureaucratic drivel.

Some of the clans that stayed in the swamps instead of moving to the cities hold some type of unofficial authority when it comes to their tribes but still pay taxes and supply the Empire with men to fight.

>Economy
The treasure vaults of Avangar are mostly filled by tributaries from the Tarot Kingdoms and the woodcutter cities, as well as taxes from the eastern part of smallstep and the islands of Sirtai Martoflu.

Trade is minimal, and Avangar mostly buys silver and steel from the Kingdom of Silver, Elanxa and Leng, while they export coal and opioids that are found in the swamp to other nations, such as Luden and Seagard.

Avangar also exploits some of the gold and copper mines that were left behind by the Begiz in the Skor Kartoflu island, reinforcing their economy even more.

>Culture

Before the rise of Avangar, the Elyrians that dwelled in the swamp caves and thosed that lived in the towns had distinct cultures. The former held more importance to their tribe and the traditions and worship of their old gods, as well as despising any form of magic and witchcraft. The townspeople were less hostile to foreigners, sometimes even forming trade relations with them.

Nowadays, however, the youth that live in Alga and the other cities don't resemble the Elyrians of the past. Most have forsaken their own gods, practice sorcery and expand their cities while not caring for the swamps they call their home. They see the past as dark times now long gone, having been absorbed in the prophecy of the Lightbringer and being addicted to their newfound glory and riches.

[cont]

>>84977864
[CONT]

However, there are still the swamp tribes that have kept to their old traditions and religions. The clan of Elder Ducha despies Avangar and his family for "killing" their gods and building their palaces and cities and drowning out their swamps. They live in the heart of the swamp and refuse to pay taxes or any kind of dilligence towards the Empire, instead partaking in smuggling activities of the "Demon's Poppy" opioid that only grows in the Elyrian swamps.

>Geography

The central area of Smallstep is full of bogs and marshes, which are called the Elyrian swamps. Most of the Elyrians live around that area, with some communities living in the edges of the swamp, near the plains to the east. On the far east there are hills that were populated by foreigners until the recent conquests, with now many Elyrians moving there, as many mines and ports have opened.

>Demographics

Elyrians - They make up the majority of the Empire. The ruling class, as well as the clergy and the millitary are exclusively Elyrian. They mostly live in the Elyrian swamps, with the majority living in the capital of Alga, while the cavedwellers are now few in numbers. The island of Stor Kartoflu is also majority Elyrian, and there have been many immigrating from the mainland in order to help rebuild the island's infastracture.

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Map anon here. With the map fully field, I think this ought to be the final version of the physical map. Any further geographic additions are of more local importance, and thus need to be added in local maps and not the world map.

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>>84978536
And while we're at it, here's the biome map as well.

>>84978087
Other humans - Most humans that live in Avangar are to be found in Alga. Those are mostly practicers of the dark arts, such as shadowbinders, necromancers and other dastardly sorcerers. Most humans in Alga are from the Isle of Wizards, Arangea, Hithlone, Azan and Mossovoy, with few coming from the east. Apart from Alga, the other swamp settlements are almost exclusively Elyrian, while the eastern parts of smallstep and the Kingdom of Poker being populated mostly by the conquered local populace. The Belizian people of Stor Kartoflu are mostly gone, either fleeing to Vilga, or escaping to the hills that surround cannibal bay. The parts of Avangar that hold the least Elyrians are the lands of the Former Republic of Vilga - especially the island of Zeresh - as well as the middle of Stor Kartoflu island.

Ogres - The horned variant of the Ogre live in the Sitrai Martoflu archipelago, mostly in the Stor Kartoflu hills and mountains. The middle of the island holds a large population of ogres, as many have descended from the hills in order to populated the cities that used to belong to the Beliz. They worship a corrupted version of Avangar.

Elves and other non humans - Most non humans are Witch Elves and the occasional Gnoll. Hobbits, dwarves and halflings barely have any interest in the dark arts, and as such have no interest in living in Avangar. A rare sight in the city of Alga are the nefarious Skeleton priests, disguised as humans using glamor spells. The reasons of visit are unknown, but many suspect that they are recruiting people for their dark armies, while delving even deeper in the art of necromancy. They, like the other foreign humans have to wear masks while walking outside in Avangar.

>>84977864
I forgot to mention that traditional Elyrian garbs are long sleeved and include head veils that cover everything but the eyes - for both men and women. Those are both ceremonial and practical,as they were used for protection against the mosquito swarms.

>>84976714
At least he has a name now.

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>Snoloths

The Snoloths, or Sloth Men as they are less formally refered as, are the only inhabitants of Snoloth Country. Standing at about 8-9 Feet on average the Snoloths would make strong warriors and workers if they had the drive to do it, but sadly for them they are slow moving and unmotivated. Even the Witch-Elves don't see any use for them as slaves which has left them relatively untouched. They live mostly to the center of their country to keep away from any border wars.

The land they live in is mostly a bog and the Snoloths inhabit villages made of stone huts that can have anywhere from 20-200 Snoloths and farm Water Chestnuts, Cranberries and Bog Chew, a chewing tobacco like substance. The Snoloths have no central leadership and instead all share the same tasks, which is mainly farming and repairs to keep their houses up. Perceived as grumpy to outsiders it is true that they don't particularly enjoy the "Fast Men" (What they call any other sentient species) but can tolerate them overtime if they share the same values of peace and carelessness. Their favorite species are the Hobbits as they too enjoy many meals and relaxing in the shade.

The Snoloths have one syllable names like, Bo, Raf, Weln, and Crog, and rarely do they give themselves surnames. The only Snoloths you are likely to see outside of Snoloth Country are young Snoloths who yearn for something greater than Cranberry farming. One of these Snoloths can be a great asset to an adventuring party, due to their size and brute strength acting for good muscle.

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Any good city for nativist street gangs who get in gang wars with foreigner street gangs of immigrants?

>>84979259
I was thinking of calling them the Borrery Boys and their territory is the local working class neighborhood known as the Borrery District, they hold local trades jobs when not participating in gang activities and are comprised of working class ethnic locals.

>>84979297
They are inspired by the historical Bowery Boys of NY and Billy Boys of Glasgow.

>>84978838
>Military

The millitary officers and commanders of the Avangar army are exclusively Elyrian. Some of the eastern human populations make up small numbers as infantrymen and archers. Cavalry is only now slowly getting adopted by the Elyrians, since they traditionally had little use in the swamps where they lived. Sorcerers also take an importance place, as the abundance of sorcery practicioners in Alga has filled their ranks with people that aren't afraid to exploit magic in order to kill.

But the most important part of the Elyrian army are the Urageen - short for suicide warriors - infantrymen and the special guard of the Empire, who were the first young Elyrians who supported Avangar. They consume the "Demon's Poppy" drug that makes them absolutely fearless even in the face of certain death. Now grizzlied veterans, their skill in battle is unparalleled. The Urageen banner is enough to make people pray for mercy, from the Gnolls in the east to the Sea Elves in the far west.

>Religion

The Elyrians are very spiritual people, to the point of being deeply superstitious. Their religious teachings revolve around laconism and the worship of nature's spirits as well as the swamp itself, as well as several gods of the swamp, such as Velgrod and Sdy. As with many tribal people, prophecies are an integral part of their religion.

However, the average Elyrian nowadays worships their former Emperor Avangar as a God and a messiah. Although the clergy itself recognizes the old swamp gods alongside Avangar, their worship is almost forgotten outside of the swamps themselves. The Elyrians now pray to Avangar for guidance, wealth and good health. Many warriors scream his name at the top of their lungs as they charge into battle, burning many cities in his banner, a black helmet surrounded by flames.

>>84979259
Well, Luden is literally a parody version of London where the inhabitants are rat people. Other cities where there might be a big immigrant population are Hithlone, Zapalovah, Arangea etc

But the most multicultural state might be the Gvilderstaaten. Kinda reminds me of Novigrad.

>>84979259
Maybe not exactly what you're looking for, but the
Dual Kingdom-Empire of Voita-Malagsh probably has a lot of civilian infighting, due to being force to share the same space to fight the forest.

Are there any cities that forbid/ban magic?

>>84979259
Probably in some colony cities.

>>84979297
>>84979259
Feel free to add the Borrery Boys to which city you guys feel fit and/or flush out the rival immigrant ethnic gang(s) they are at war with.

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A culture map of the area. Decided to add some Nasr pirate strongholds on the coast ala Fraxinetum. If I missed something, do tell.

>>84981390
You should probably fix that one river that goes in a complete circle, also Pharoth is on a local high point so shouldn't have a river running through it

Also, anything interesting we should know about the different ethnic groups?

Azanese is Byzantine with some other stuff thrown in, Gautlaner basically means dwarf, and Shangris is Chinese, and Azharis is Arabic, but what about the rest?

>>84979394
So are the Elyrians a near-human race or just a human culture?

>>84981390
Looks great so far hyped to see it finished!

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Any plains areas available to be occupied by tribes of roaming centaurs?

>>84982371
Nope we're full

>>84963058
Why was Terminus moved northward? Its supposed to be on the very edge of the word.

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>>84974674
>>84976190
Here is some underground lore and place names. Not necessarily the most important of their kind, just some examples:

Da Wet Caves (Kinnog) – A network of hundreds of kilometers of natural limestone caves, cenotes, and lava tubes, some of which are partially filled with sea water. The goblins here have become overpopulated, causing some to raid the surface dwellers or goblins in other cave networks.

Mer’itas’sii (Drow) – This Lolthite Drow city is partially located beneath a large surface lake that slowly drains into the crevasses beneath it via tall waterfalls, some hundreds of meters tall. The underground lakes and ponds in the area are warmed by nearby volcanic activity.

Helmgrud Hall (Azan) – This sprawling former mine and fortress is more horizontal than vertical, unusual for a large dwarf hold. It was abandoned centuries ago after the ore seams ran dry, but parts of it are still used as storage or for certain dwarven religious ceremonies by clans that are still in the region.

Gomorrah Breach – Despite breaching amidst a mountain range, the Gomorrah Breach extends kilometers beneath the surface. It is said the closer you get to the bottom, the more it starts looking like the hell from which the breach originated.

The Moon-Lit Grotto - This pacifist Eilistraean Drow city was unfortunately overrun not long after the Gomorrah Breach formed.

Orgia Breach – One of several small nascent breaches, its existence is largely unknown, but the succubus there sometimes cause trouble for Daligrad and Kalydon, and have a love-hate relationship with Mutaa’s followers.

Forgulholme – This large underground dwarven city was overrun by giberlings centuries ago. The giberlings still live there, and sometimes capture she-ep for foul rituals.

>>84982647

The Burrow – Like many hobbit constructs, it isn’t a true underground structure, though it is build under a hill, and goes down several levels. One of the largest of its kind, several dozen hobbits can live quite comfortably in it.

The Dungeon of Evil – A rare dark place in an otherwise peaceful realm, this large hobbit burrow was invaded by a group of evil gnome cultists, who expanded it using slave labor, and who still raid neighboring communities to this day.

Mossovoy Underground – Bad stuff happens here.

Da Boom Caves (Changrila) – No one remembers where the name comes from, but the goblins living in the network of karst caves of this region are unusually pacifist, slow to breed, and friendly with outsiders. Some see them as wise and knowledgeable, others believe they just say stuff that gets them attention.

Da Stikky Caves (Changrila) – The goblins here have converted to worshipping Gogotha thanks to the influence of the nearby nascent breach. The less that is said about this cave network the better.

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Where does the best wine in the world come from? Who are the best vintners in the world?

>>84982371
that would be really cool

>>84981390
Τhat's great. What do you make this map with

>>84981805
They are human

>>84982371
There are already centaurs and the map is full anyways

>>84963709
SOVL

>>84982931
I can outrun a centaur!

>>84979145
Snoloths are already Snail people anon. Don't contradict pre existing lore

>>84982815
I think the only mentioned major wine producer is the land of windmills.

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Here's a physical map of the region with various points of interest.

>>84982914
GIMP 2.0
>>84982168
eventually!
>>84981630
Here fixed the physical map.

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Snoloth wizard. Very rare

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>>84983546
Added all the new rivers and updated the altitude. I'll only add to the world map the bigger ones that are completed in the image.Also, how is this river called? I don't see the name.

>>84981390
Are you still making coat of arms?

>>84983395
I like them more as sloths. Maybe they are sloth people with a shell on their back that they can retreat whenever they want to protect themselves from the sun?

> Crystalids or Crystalid Destroyers

A rather odd and peculiar group of entities.Their forms and size may vary but most commonly they can be described as Insect-like creatures made out of pure crystals size can vary between "living crystal dust" and a "bastion on legs". They don't belong to the surface world neither the known underground worlds, some theorise they came from the heart of the world. The means of how they got out of there varies. Some came with earthquakes or volcanic eruptions, some crawled out of deep caverns reaching down to their habitat and some just dig themselves out. But the first instance is the most common. And by it they occur in higher numbers on active volcanic lands or near mountains. The desroyer in their name is not a misnomer wherever they go they are capable of creating mayhem most commonly by simply walking through their obstacles either crushing or slicing anything to a bloody mess (depends on the form). Fighting against them is also hard but not impossible. Because of their composition they are hard enough to damage but they can have a variety of offensive weaponry. Starting with the more common either sharp or blunt potrusions and growths even rarer encounters can have more extreme ones like a outproportioned "mouth" full of insanely sharp "teeth" or just unleashing such a strong scream that even their own bodies cannot tolerate, or being capable of shatering themselves to become smaller entities then fusing together again or just using parts of their bodies as projectiles. In some extreme cases they can morph their forms to suit their needs and while many of them formed wing like structures the capability of flight is only a theorised ability some entities posess. Each of them is a one of a kind which means they are unpredictable but on the other hand they worth a lot. Jewellers all over the world only wish to obtain even a small bodypart. Thanks to their unique composition and atteibutes they are highly coveted materials.

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>>84985013
CONTINUE (because the limit cant let another 500 letters )
bur encounters are rare for the last thousand years there were only little more than 500 sightings (around 200 just on the soil of the drow citystates) worldwide.
Artifacts made from this material can be extremely powerful if made right. But it can be hit or miss because of the one of the kind random nature of the creature its made from. This is why it was basicaly banned from alchemy and magical usage the results can be so random that the risk is just too high.

>>84985013
where do they live

Thanedds are huge crustacean creatures with octopus like tentacles. They live in the South West sea and the Leviathan Gulf, often in deep waters.

They are carnivores and can consume the carcass of a whale in a few days. They have a particular affinity towards human meat, and sometimes latch themselves on the nets of large ships, climbing their way towards the ship and wrecking havoc.

They are very smart creatures and can use the body of a dead human to communicate using its vocal chords. Many whaling ships have perished in those waters, as killing a Thanedd is extremely difficult, although it makes for an insanely valuable prize.

>>84985223
I Just genuinely imagined them randomly wandering aimlessly around the world. But with a higher chance of encountering them near mountain ranges and volcanic lands or just anywhere where the crust of the earth is untable enough.

As for where they originate exactly its deliberate mystery possibly the planets inner mantle if not deeper.

>>84985835
*upper mantle pardon

>>84982550
>Terminus moved North
That is weird. The city should be on the southern edge of the map. The whole point of it was to be a city overlooking the edge of the world. A place where people could look out into the cosmos if they dared.

>>84984388
alright let's say Fluv Portesu.

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>>84985639

>>84986343
>>84985639
A bit too similar to the Great Pincering Squid, but I guess this is a bigger sea predator, whereas the Picering Squid is a lake predator.

Also, what's the reason for them to preffer human flesh? No way a little human can satisfy the hunger of an animal that big.

>>84986676
The same reason americans like KFC, anon. It's tasty.

>>84986938
Maybe human meat have addicting properties for thanedds? A thanedd that has eaten human meat will go to great lengths to find and capture more, but those who haven't eaten them don't particularly care about them above any other prey.

>>84986996
That makes sense.

>>84984547
They were never sloths. They were stone age snails who sometimes wear skulls of ancient giants on their shells.

They're neat enough as us, build on top of it instead of rewriting it into something unrelated.

>>84987030
What if Snoloth country is home to Snolls and Sloths

>>84987030
Well I guess big ass sloths not being good slaves doesn't make sense

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So Snoloths would look like this?

>>84979394
>Foreign Relations

Republic of Vilga - Last chronogically territory that was conquered by Avangar. Many in the Vilgan council are bribed by the Empire, while the Quamona Tong syndicate is opposed to the occupatio, constantly trying to cause provocations amongst Avangar and Vilga, as well as other foreign nations. Many temples have been built to Avangar's name, but few have converted thus far.

Woodcutter cities - The cities to the east, near the Red Lake pay tribute to Avangar, having adopted their religion. Avangar competes with the Platinum Princedom and the Orange Marquisates for control over the rest of the cities, dedicating a lot of money and manpower.

Platinum Princedom - These two nations are hostile with each other, with guards patrolling their borders, where many fortifications have been built. The Platinum Princedom is worried about Avangar's warmongering and rapid expansion and has hired Nerim mercenaries to protect their lands. The Kingdom of Silver has also allined with the Platinum Princedom. The Empire plans on retaking the entirety of the Smallstep northern coast.

Kingdom of Tarot - A war broke out between those two nations a couple of years ago, with Avangar coming victorious, gaining the Kingdom of Poker as their vassal and subjecting the Kingdom of Tarot to an expensive annual tribute. Much of their trade is controlled by Avangar, although they hope they can gain free themselves from the tribute once the war breaks out.

Elanxa Empire - The Elanxans are worried about the expansion of the Avangar Empire, although they don't think the Elyrians would try landing a force in their soil. They employ spies and agents in Vilga that push anti-Elyrian propaganda.

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Map anon here. The underground map progresses at good pace. I've added more points and some lore-relevant underground points. If anyone wants to help me add some names, depths and maybe some lore for the spots I've marked, it would be a great help.

>>84986310
Ok, added.

>>84983546
>>84981390
If anyone has any suggestion for any monsters or dangers to populate the region please go ahead. So far we have:
>cave wyrms
>goblins
>cave bears
>swamp/cave trolls
>hill trolls

>>84988004
Acid slimes?

>>84987761
Orange Marquisates - The Orange marquisates are vying for the control of the woodcutter cities against Avangar, although they see their potential war with the Platinum Princedom as an financial opportunity, thinking it might increase their trade power with the northern realms. Despite that, they too have their own internal conflicts, so for the moment they aren't too busy worrying about Avangar's westward expansion.

Zeresh - Technically an Avangar territory, although a garrison isn't stationed there, just a few guards. The Quamona Tong use it as their headquarters, running a hidden smuggling operation from there.

Neraga - The Elyrians are aware of the existence of the pirate shanty town of the Dreaded Wharf there, although very few attempts have been made to cease their illegal activities, most centering around apprehending galleys that transfer contraband in Labyrinth Bay. The pirates and smugglers of Dreaded Wharf are of split opinion when it comes to Avangar, some seeing the upcoming war as a hinderance to their operations, while others seeing profit in supplying the winning side.

Tower of Insanity - Technically part of the empire, although no one has stationed or landed there, since local superstition of the haunted tower is still going strong.

Kunt - Avangar has been aware of the Pirate Temple's existence for a long time, although their activities mostly concern the eastern seas, with few raids conducted around the labyrinth bay. The Elyrians have rejected the idea of taking control of the island, as an assault or even a naval siege would cost too many men that are needed elsewhere.

That's all folks, If I've contradicted something on the lore you can correct me.

>>84987045
Maybe? But as >>84987069 says giant sloth people make good slaves...

>>84987277 I vote yes, looks nice

>>84988083
Ι forgot of one last thing.

Blackstone Prison Islands - The prisoners often taken by the demonic wardens from the Avangar prisons are mostly petty thiefs and murderers, while other nations give up necromancers and other dark arts practicioners. Many of Avangar's officers are trying to find a way to apprehend the ships that carry these valuable prisoners to the prison, although dealing with the Wardens' fury does not seem like a very attractive option.

>>84981390
>>84976936
I'll add this to the wiki when it's near completion.

Also, I'd appreciate if anyone could update the wiki with the underground/climate/biome/geography maps since it's hard to keep up with those. Same with some sea monsters from the previous threads, as well as some banners that someone made, those aren't added in.

>>84983546
this shit is next level

The old OP is a faggot who got tired of the project and used an arguement between two basement dwellers as an excuse to jump ship

>>84988805
A last question, does the current emperor's sibling have a name? Because Avangar had 2 kids

>>84989240
Her name is Anna (short for Aubrianna) and they are also twins.

New thread?

>>84986676
>A bit too similar to the Great Pincering Squid
I don't think so. Also the oceans are big enough for several shrimp species.

I've heard there are pirates in this setting. can you give me a tl;dr of the most important pirate states

>>84989876
This reminds me that the tale of the wooden pirate was never added to the wiki.

>>84989848
Maybe they are connected? The alchemists were trying to make a terrestrial version of the thanedd, and the Pincering Squid was the result, a much smaller animal but with able to somewhat live on land. If the Thanedds take the sperm whale niche, pincering squids take the crocodile niche.

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>>84989876
>>84959065
The Wavewalkers of Ortuga make especially powerful pirates since they are able to walk on water and cast conch magic rituals to sink ships, affect the sea state or call upon leviathans and other deadly sea creatures

>>84990128
>cast conch magic rituals to sink ships, affect the sea state or call upon leviathans and other deadly sea creatures
They sound absolutely broken, is there a way to counter them? Any flaws on their magic?

>>84990161
Well despite wavewalking conch magic needs to be trained over a long time so what a wavewalker can do with this really depends on his specific upbringing, occult education and powerlevel. There are many wavewalkers that just don't practice it at all since the knowledge of it actively is kept hidden by the ones knowing how to cast it

>>84990031
It was added as the neeug origin

>>84990296
>>84990296

new bred

>>84989229
I said I'd come back after a few days if the thread is still alive and I did. Other people took over handling the wiki and updating the map, but I'm writing small stuff from time to time. Once they get tired of doing that I might jump in again.

I am surprised this managed to get back on track though.

>>84990213
Huh, I missed that.