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Lapsaria culture map

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Not my proudest edit

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>>82332850
Ververia culture map

>>82332856
Hey I'll take what I can get.

>>82332708
No one had any idea who that redditor is retard. Why the fuck would you link to reddit on 4chan? You need to go back to that shithole.

>>82332617
>exposed
>go to the the retard’s profile
>nothing about leviathan there
The fuck are you trying to say? That reddit makes these compasses to? Of course they do, reddit steal all sorts of shit from 4chan.

>>82332916
>>82332937
Personally I don't want to play the lame version of Secret Hitler called Secret Redditor, so we should probably just get back to it.

>>82333375
>>82332937
best to ignore them

We still have a bunch of cities that need information

>>82333427
Probably should put together a master list for ourselves then.

Fairoza, Chruvir, Timajora, Monx, Basava, Gorincamp, Argasun, Pisk and Oraroho are all major value.
Synance, the Haunt, Haftet, Vaparo, the Hook, Bellport, Sabota, Mierra, Greycandle, and the like while secondary to the former (in numbers anyways) are also important.

>>82333491
Remember, just because a location is a regional capital doesn't necessarily mean it is the largest city in the region. There was those bits in the last thread where Vott and Volkov are larger than Basava and Gorincamp respectively.

Didn’t CCA post his take on the last Tsar’s name last thread?

>>82333624
I didn't like Zalar or whatever the fuck it was.

>>82333691
Just found it, Zlatan Aca Krsmanov. It's even worse than I remember.
Not only that, but people had decided the last Tsar wasn't the one that had built the city, so it wouldn't even have his name.

>>82333723
I personally feel like Asparakh (For a surname) or something might be better. I'm feeling something Bohlgarish in tone. But that is just me.

>>82333723
>Not only that, but people had decided the last Tsar wasn't the one that had built the city, so it wouldn't even have his name.
When did this happen? As far as I knew, the (now destroyed) capital being named after the last Tsar was the idea since it was created.

>>82333739
I personally prefer those discount russian names on the docs, but it's mainly because I like how they sound.

>>82333759
When people where talking about the timeline, it was decided that the new capital had to be older, because it being only one generation was too new.
Now, some people also said that the capital gets renamed everytime a Tsar is crowned, but I think that's a horrible idea. Changing the name of a nation when the dynasty changes already creates a bunch of confusion and expanses, imagine if it happened every 40-60 years.

>>82333760
I kind of like the idea of some old remnants in the dynastic name, but for the primary names I'm definitely feeling some slutsk shit.

>>82333760
I do agree. As petty as it sounds, mostly for readability reasons. The moment I give my player any names that they take longer than a fraction of a second to spell in their minds, they'll come up with a shitty short form of.

>>82332533
>Potemkin village/s which became a recurring thing. Imperial favourite dismantled and rebuilt the same façade along the far shore of a river hosting the Tsar's progress. Open secret theatre circuit/massed army drill, proving ground for fast-build frontier construction frames too. Alternatively The practice could have started in Jassentrof when the prince thought the towns looked so pretty that he crossed the river and completely missed the panicked soldiers in peasant costume. Courtiers took this for feigned ignorance to obscure a deeper ploy and started imitating fascination for "homes without history".

>>82333825
We can use that to our advantage, there's a reason primary regnal names became more simple, though complex historic names were packed behind.
Olog, Boris, Lev, Iven, Kazmar, Sviak, Aleksi, Gleb.
Prince Gleb of the Rus was so god damn cursed.

>>82333723
The idea was that the city gets renamed every time a Tsar dies, it’s last-Tsargrad

>>82334083
That sounds really complicated and dumb.

>>82334083
It was an idea that appeared later, and I don't like it.

>>82334083
I would say current-Tsargrad would make more sense to me.

Renaming the city to the very last Tsar makes sense. They're rebuilding the city, and the old Tsar wanted to put his stamp on it.
Renaming it every time a Tsar dies is stupid. Do you know how many times they'd have had to change the city's signage and various maps?

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>>82334130
Anyway, have some Wendigos

>>82334095
It only works if the Tsars are responsible for that specific city to such a degree it's pertinent.
That said I do like the idea of some cities having regnal names, city-raising and the notion of dogged architectural progress has precedent.

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>>82334138
This one is eating, and has a very retarded bear as a hat.

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>>82334151
This one is fat, so probably a patriarch.
Also his bear has proper perspective.

>>82334151
Something ain't right about that boy.

>>82334164
Patriarch should have some light oil corruption. Not full oilpilled eyes, but the beginnings of them.

>>82334176
If it is raw and mixed with supplemental stones it could produce unique results. Looser creative licence.

>>82334190
Excuse me?

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>>82334176
Tried to be subtle

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>>82334245
And a less subtle version

>>82334393
Yeah, that's a little easier to see.

>>82334151
>>82334393
love these

Dead thread

>>82335840
Yep. I'm starting to think we should shift our focus to finalizing the lore document.

lmao just wait for the weekend, should pick up some more steam.

>>82336252
>>82335850
moods shift, people will be back at it again later I bet

Especially with CCA sick

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>>82334138
Put all of them together, so it's easier to have.
Didn't know each one was a different size, no wonder the patriarch was the easiest to work with.

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I was looking at the Ververia map, and I came up with this bit while looking at the forts and capitals.

Following the Ververian Campaign, there was a general restructuring of Ververia's internal borders to better coordinate military operations on the nations borderlands. This saw the creation of four regions, each run by a military governor, or Hetman. Based from the forts of Keskita, Rajur, Haeska, and the (yet) unnamed fort east of Lake Puu, these military governments were created to better coordinate and control important or vulnerable border regions in Ververia. Though technically all of equal rank, the Hetman of the Keskita region is usually considered the most important of the four, due to the size and importance of the fort of Keskita.
Separate from these military regions are the Ververian core, which consists of the lands that are directly controlled by the crown; such as various provinces, Clannsmen districts, and Marshfolk communities, and the Kylmaati Union, a political entity in Ververia that has existed since before conquest.

The Kylmaati Union was originally a military alliance between the various Marshfolk groups in the Kylmaati Marshes. When the Unification began, the Kylmaati were one of the most powerful Marshfolk groups in (what is now) Ververia. However, rather than challenge the up-and-coming Ververian state, the Kylmaati Union instead negotiated a peaceful annexation into the new state, in exchange for being given a certain political rights and a degree of autonomy afterwards.
In the time since then, the Kylmaati Union has become one of the most powerful entities in Ververia, and the Prince of Mundus (the name for the elected leader of the union) is usually considered to be the second most powerful person in Ververia after the king.

Thoughts?

>>82336475
CCA is sort of a driving force by keeping this bumped.

>>82338474
doesn't help that I've been busy the last few days as well cause I've been feeding prompts to the thread and working on backgrounds quietly

>>82338274
sounds pretty good, I don't have any outstanding issues with it anyway

>>82338274
Add it to the Google doc.

>>82338669
>>82338693
Nice. Added it.

>>82338474
I have been slow due to being sick, the holidays, and planning for international travel. I will be free this following week and will be working to detail the skills and their common uses.

The most useful non-combat skill with combat uses will probably be Athletics, which both covers Advanced Combat Movement and Speed Loading Crossbows. For reference Sleight of Hand handled Speed Loading Firearms. Bows don't have a slow to load quality so they don't need to be speed loaded.

>>82339744
Gonna clarify a lot of stuff when we get to skills since some are not obvious. Stuff like:
>Bargain
which is both your ability to broker deals, but governs your ability to source rare items
>Influence
which is your ability to find services & organizational contacts, but also your ability to both find & spread rumors

Going to also have to explain all the common branches for skills. Stuff like Technician is broken up into (Industrial, Clockwork, Combustion Engine, Land Vehicle, Watercraft, Artillery) as the common ones.

Then combat ones like Aim get broken up into (Pistol, Rifle, Mounted Firearm, Artillery, Crossbow, Bow, Siege Weapon) and stuff like Light Melee covers (Knifes, Short Blade, Clubs, Fist Weapons).

>>82338274
a big fan of it. Ververia had a big problem of generic fantasy land-itis, where everything is neatly divided and even if history is given, the result looks like it was drawn up yesterday. This is the opposite (in a good way): It's a recently added division with weirdness and messiness that comes with a long developing history, and that is clearly meant to balance out old imbalances, and does so imperfectly. I like it.

>>82339813
I will suggest tho that swords be slit between light and heavy.

For instance historically light cavalry and heavy cavalry had their own types of swords. So something like a “light cavalry Sabre” should probably be light melee, and a “heavy cavalry Sabre” should be heavy.

Court swords, small swords, spadroons, and the like should be light melee

Rapiers, arming swords and any pole arms should go to heavy melee

>>82342338
Rapiers in heavy? They seem more like a light weapon to me.

>>82344415
idk irl rapiers are a pretty heavy sword, about as heavy as a knightly sword anyway

>>82345049
rapiers were a kilo a piece, that's heavy? what would be medium weapon weight?

Just let the thread(and this abomination of a meme) die. It's very clearly running out of steam.

>>82345541
We wouldn't have made it this far without your constant bumps, autismo-kun :^)

>>82345374
about as heavy as you get for most single handed swords

>>82345374
sword and such would rarelly exed weitgh of 4 kg 5 tops in case of 2 handers in the case i think he mean estocs wich where pretty long and ultraspecialized

>>82345541
Based anon indirectly bumping the quest through shitposts.
Have your (You) payment.

so i have a question i seen in the compass that gaunfenburg thing is it developed? seems it something on the level of carpi bay but wiht less eldritch/ghostly shit going

>>82346178
The guy wanted to keep the monster that destroyed it a mystery.

>>82346178
Knightfags wanted it to be a knight, I kind of viewed it as some sort of monster; but yeah it's best to keep it a total mystery.

>>82346207
>>82346239
i see i jsut was wha the hell hapened
and ploots hoock can be varied epending of the city

>>82346259
Well at this point it's all up in the air. So if you want to start elaborating on it, then fine. Let's get started.

>>82346265
maybe some deal with thedeep one/fish power that went really realyl wrong?

>>82346265
Make a lizard from Kyugoryo that crossed the ocean, ingesting oil and coral on the way. People say it's the Traitor true form, finally coming to judge the world's sins.

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>>82346428
That's kind of what happened in Capri Bay.
I personally think the First Traitor (aka pic related, only the size of a dragon) stomped over Gaufenburg like Godzilla. Maybe got into a fight with a rogue Slab Knight, who knows.

or some crazed augmented human wiht some kind of shit, be it oil, coral, quartz etc

>>82346239
>Knightfags
More like the guy who came up with it wanted it. As the guy who did all those Jasentorf compass things, I wanted to keep it ambiguous though since I think that's kinda dumb

>>82346428
doesn't really fit. There's no indication that either the survivor or the steel knight have any signs of fishery, nor is Jasentorf very involved in bargains

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>>82346450
Maybe it could look like one of those goofy looking medieval dragons, to fit with the funny whales.

there's the lake wyrms so that something

>>82346265
>Let's get started.
Lets not. This is such a specific and far off thing that detailing/explaining it would just make it boring and add pretty much nothing.
Leave it unclear, if anything there are several different rumors going around, but nothing set in stone.

>>82346207
>>82346239
>>82347659
+1 to all this.
>>82346178
>seems it something on the level of carpi bay
Far from it. Capri bay affected a huge area, depopulated several large cities and made a permanent exclusion zone. This seems like a village/city was destroyed and now the thing responsible for it is being hunted.

>>82347706
I mean if you wanted some stone creatures pretty sure a cockatrice or gorgon type creature would be fitting enough.

>>82347706
i understood as principality geting ravaged

>>82348040
I always interpreted it as a town getting fucked, but that's just me.

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>>82348071
Same. Not everything needsw to be extremelly large scale to be important. A town being destroyed by a single creature would still be impressive enough to warrant a story appearing around it.

>>82348071
That's what I thought too.
And it's what I prefer

anyhow, backgrounds and hoocks what do we have?
i got one simple for capri bay, sinacean sampling, that ends dealign wiht ghost and perhaps surviving to the lady in gray

>>82348362
Some ideas I have are:
>political prisoners captures by the current regime breaking out of Ulgora Prison in Gorincamp
>Durite rebels fighting against Lapsarians
>Lapsarian Soldiers on one of the four major fronts
>Cult hunters from the government or otherwise throughout the empire
>Union Agitators or Union Busters in a major city
>Political intrigue among the low levels of the courts

>>82348362
>Professors wanting to explore the tundra, need protection/guides/extra hands. May lead to big discoveries.
>Investigation of a fine conspiracy leads into fish cults and corruption inside the church.

>>82348362
>strange reports of creatures in the fog at night

>>82348362
> Players are hired by Industrialists/Tycoons/Aerialists to sabotage the other factions, end up getting involved in deeper and deeper conspiracies.
> Players are prisoners at The Slate and manage to espace during a supernatural incident
> Players are tasked with investigating reports of increased cult activity in the margins of the Timajor regarding the Eel Sire

wellp that's covered and gives a ncie amount sof variety in quests
maybe we could add some sky pirates shenanigans¿?

>idiot investor wants to restart construction on the new capital and is hiring new guards

>>82350028
We need to know where the Skypirtes have relocated to after the seige and destruction of Highharbor.

I suggest they relocated to part of the mountain range somewhere west of Ververia and are currently telling mountain Suuri to go fuck themselves.

>>82350075
Probably still in the Gehdehon Mountains, just in different safehouses.

>>82350075
They should be very careful, Gods know what would happen if the Suuri got their hand on an airship and put some of that stonewood on it.

>>82350104
The Gehdehon and Orgil are part of a single greater mountain range that continues in the Suuri tundra.

>>82349762
>Hired by a university professor to look into some strange goings on
>Players get caught in an ambush by some bandits, though it seems they were looking to abduct people...
>Noble hires on some private investigators to get blackmail on a political rival, turns out they were involved in more than was bargained for

>>82349762
>smuggler-senpai wants to use the old railroad to get black salt into Synance, so get ready for GHOST TRAIN shenanigans

>>82349762
>Some trade magnates need something done about the Oraroho situation. Some hirelings are just the cure for some coral cartel busting

>>82349762
>the Royal Axolotl contracts your party to escort him upriver to so he can participate in his species' mating rituals
>he has never done this before
>h-how is he speaking to you?
>don't worry about payment, though, the professor has you covered on that

>>82350537
we're all loyal to the crown here, we'll help for free

>>82350561
I dunno about you, but going up the Ubrins to Highharbor isn't exactly a vacation.

>>82350576
are you telling me you'd refuse a request from the Tsar?

>>82350617
>the Tsar
Dude, it's a salamander, get your eyes checked.
"But why do we call him your majesty?" "Shut up!"

>>82349762
>corrupt border official in Piske wants your party to traffic 80 kilos of Red Salt from his source in Oakwatch to his buyer in Westtower. Demands you take it over land to avoid the navies contraband searches.

>>82347177
>>82346450
>>82348040
>>82347889
I hope you guys are taking into accoutn the line that the Knight of Steel pursuid the Beast INTO LAPSARIA, right?

>>82353325
Yes and?

>>82353549
maybe it being something to do with Lapsaria, rather than a kaiju never mentioned anywhere would be nice. I, for one, think of the terror as a person, and the destruction of Gaufenburg as a military action

>>82353838
Ah yes, Lapsaria launched a military action against Jasentorf, a place that doesn't even share a border with it, and was completly ignored by the rest of the Gilded States, who one of the few reasons it even exist it to protect itself against outside forces.
That makes nore sense that a dumb monster destroying a shitty, irrelevant small town and wandering around, or even the knight following rumours and crossing the border while being mistaken.
Also the First Traitor was mentioned before, just that it wasn't a huge monster, but it was a dragon/satan analogue.

>>82354194
>Ah yes, Lapsaria launched a military action against Jasentorf, a place that doesn't even share a border with it, and was completly ignored by the rest of the Gilded States, who one of the few reasons it even exist it to protect itself against outside forces.
nah, that's not what I was suggesting, but I udnerstand it's a fun interpretation to get really quite cross about for some reason. What I was saying is that it should be something to do with Lapsaria, not that Lapsaria as a state would be the beligerant party. There's a bunch of non-state actors it could be, including the initial slab-knight guy.

>>82354194
>the First Traitor was mentioned before
As a meme. The first traitor was literally a meme akin to the monolith saying lol lmao. It's meant to be a joke on how the first animals came to live on the land, effectively "betraying" the ocean, not a real modern time Kaiju

Ok, I say we go through each city in turn and decide the following:
>Whose seat of power it in (the noble family who runs that city, some cities may not have one but most should)
>6 Landmarks
>4 Organizations Centered there

The Organization & Landmarks can be in the following categories:
>Military
>Industrial
>Mercantile
>Entertainment
>Religious
>Political
>Academic
>Esoteric

The major cities in Lapsaria range in population from 50k to 1mil+, so a lot of room.

We will begin West and move East, so first on our list in the Border City on the Western tip of Lapsaria past the mouth of the Venit. The swamp riddled sinking city of Mierra.

>>82354524
>>6 Landmarks
>>4 Organizations Centered there
I don't think we need all of this for every city. Regional capitals and other major cities might be in this ballpark, but smaller cities wuld probably have way less in them.

Is anything here actually being discussed or is the thread being bumped for the sake of it?

>>82354565
we where discusing some ploothoocks
>>82354524
really depends of the citty figure places wiht high industrials production will be likely in the choke hold of industrialists and so on

>>82354753
>>82354548
6/4 would be what we shoot for but not everything hits that.

>>82354938
>>82354753
Also some cities might have a bunch in the same category. Also Art should be a category, as should Historical.

>>82354340
I was going to reply saying it wouldn't be Kaiju sized, and post a medieval paiting someone edited a wojak and a pepe over a knight and a dragon, but I can't find it anywhere on my folders, and google is so useless it can it find the original so I could try to recreate it.
So you win this time anon.

not kaiju>>82355591
but clearly it was something inhuman think the alchemist of Vidoq and ohter victorian horrors, could be some stone aligned monster/deep ones or a horror from the sea

>>82354524
Again mentioning my ideas here: >>82327717

>>82359550
I like them.

>>82359774
posted some on the doc as sudjestions

>>82359959
Very nice, but we should choose a city and start throwing stuff out.

>>82362000
already did mostly is fairly vanilla, for the chivir capital, stuf flike imperil palace, academy, opera hall, royal foundaries etc

>>82362178
Let's go on to somewhere weird, Greycandle. I suggest:
>Utapanje Cemetery
>Category (Historical, Religious)
>Near the waterfront of Greycandle there is a fenced area of marshland within which are the upright wooden coffins traditional to the Venitii. As part of traditional Venitii law, before their absorption into Lapsaria, all bodies in Venitii must be buried within the walls of Greycandle so that their spirits can pass into the ocean mist. The cemetary is thus enormous and layered, coffins going nearly a league deep into the marshy depths. Occasionally bodies float to the surface and are reinterred. Sometimes ancient things float up, strange mangled or deformed corpses.

>>82362383
>>82354524
St. Lyubov Royal Seminary for Young Women
>Academic, Religious
>Famed boarding school by the coast, offers both a religious and secular education for college aged girls. The Tsarina studied here under a false name, and remembers it fondly (the school faculty, however, does not feel the same). Gained a naval officer training wing following the Ververian campaign after the yacht club got a little ambitious and rescued a few stranded marines. The Navy responded by donating an old ship to serve as a trainer vessel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlZSxjOTmpI

>>82362472
Ah, this is where the Handmaidens are trained.

>>82362472
>The Grey Candle
>Category (Military, Esoteric)
>The city's namesake, a massive lighthouse sitting on a spur of rock within the bay, lighting the way through the grey mist. The lighthouse itself is both ancient and enormous, standing over 250 feet tall. The light itself is lit and kept mechanically rotating, but is accompanied by numerous grey candles stuck to its surface. The wax has been allowed to drip down over years making waxen towers and patterns, leaving the surface with a strange greasy sheen. It is say patterns can be seen within the surface, and that in some places things are trapped within or beneath. Occasionally patterns are drawn in the surface, found and then filled in by authorities.

>>82363058
Related, but this time moving a bit further afield.

>The Monx Obelisk
>Esoteric, Mercantile
>an ancient structure dating back to the earliest age of coastal sailing, this granite lighthouse is over 1000 years old and still serves as a key landmark for keeping wayward ships away from the dangerous coastal rocks nearby; guiding sailors around the Wolher Peninsula. It used to be a simple wood-fueled fire atop the 600 ft tower, but has been upgraded to an oil powered electric light in recent times. A similar structure also exists near Fort Highwater, but in a far more ruined state that renders it nonfunctional.

Just so we got our major lighthouses squared away.

>>82363104
600ft tower would be too large. 600ft puts it at larger than the tallest modern lighthouses by over 150ft.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_lighthouses
I chose 250ft based on it being strangely tall but feasibly tall.

>>82363132
I based its height on the Washington Monument.

>>82363137
It'd still put it at 100ft taller than the washington monument and very old for a structure that marvelous, engineering wise.

It breaches what I consider "reasonable" fantasy into sort of lord of the rings epic fantasy. Note the quotes around reasonable are very big.

>>82363132
Yeah, 600ft seems a bit too big. I like the rest of though especially there being another ruined one by Highwater.

>>82363241
Yeah same, the only part I didn't like is the height.

What should the port of Greycandle be like? Military, or purely economic?

>>82363480
I would say that it WAS primarily a military port in the past, but that after the Ververian campaign most of the military aspects of the port were relocated across the Grey Waters to Mierra. It is now primarily an economic port, thought it still retains a small military presence.

>>82363628
Hmmmmm...
So maybe there's an old military fort/base that's now a big market?

>Ft. Vosk
>Mercantile, Industrial (formerly military)
>An old star fort besides a major port, Ft. Vosk is growing sub-community of Greycandle following its abandonment by the military after the Ververian campaign. Now the port has been taken over by civilian shipbuilders and riverboat magnates, with the fort now home to a bustling new market square. It is a frequent daytrip spot for St. Lyubov students, who are alleged to enjoy its energetic nightlife - particularly a seaweed smoothie on a warm summer night, or Kulebyaka (salmon pie) on a cold winter day.

Meant to post this earlier about Mierra.

Orloff and Orlov Lumberworks.
>Industrial, Mercantile
>A massive sawmill on the edge of Mierra dedicated to processing the huge old-growth Cypress trees of the region into lumber. The dual smokestacks and constant smell of the mill have become well-known features of the city. The single largest employer in Mierra outside the military.
>>82363665
I like it.

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Added few names and cities.

>>82364691
I think there should be an indicator that most of the Vast Wastes we see here is not desert but pre-desert steppe

>>82364819
>there should be an indicator
I guess we just need appropriate name for such physical phenomenon. It's just height map, there is no way to show this with color.

>>82364819
>>82364841
isnt the vast a hellish salt desert?

>>82365694
Hellish desert yes, at least further in. Near the ridges there are transitionary steppes. The salt part is just in specific places, like in Sligaff/Masovii.

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>thread continues to limp along only by the grace of meaningless flavortext posts.

>>82362383
>>82362472
>>82363058
>>82363665
>>82363104
>>82363837
Damn, I gotta say, I wasn't really feeling this landmark stuff but reading these entries I'm certainly liking it. Will include these in the docs for safekeeping

>>82365887
Welcome to long term projects on /tg/. It’ll limp for months until it’s done.

>>82367429
*until its dead
Let's not kid ourselves, at best it'll get plastered onto 1d4reddit and then never see the light of day again.

>>82367525
Depends on how dedicated the primary autists are. It takes 1-3 primary autistic personalities to finish a project.

>>82367429
>>82365887
Stop whining, we have already went much longer way than my previous /vst/-project.
c: SWAG0

>>82368264
> spoiler
I thought that was the nameof the project and got really confused when it yielded no results on the archive. I'm rarted

>>82369643
>nameof the project
Nah, we just wanted to remade old 4chan mod for civ4, but now for civ5 with new memes.
We collected some arts for icons and gathered ideas from anons.
But our goals was too ambitious, even the scripting library of civ5 is kinda hard to use now, though to properly implement all ideas we would have to go deeper in its engine written in C++, which is almost imposible now.

>>82369687
Oh shit I remember that! Shame it ended unsucessfully

The Hook landmarks:

>The Hook
>Military, Esoteric
>A massive fort protecting the Timajor from invasion, it is made up of three interlocking star forts at different elevations along a cliffside. It was badly damaged during a Jasendorf invasion attempt several centuries ago, and still bares the scars today in the form of several abandoned ruined areas closest to the shoreline. These same areas are said by locals to be haunted, although a closer investigation will find something far more fishy going on.

>the Akula and the Kosatka
>Military, Industrial
>A pair of twin dreadnought battleships currently under construction. When built, they will render all existing ships obsolete with their multiple turrets, long range guns, belted armor, torpedo tubes, and elevated command bridge. The problem is completing them, which is taking much longer than expected due to various delays and sabotages. For now they sit in the Hook's main drydock, half built. There is a rumor that they will be capable of going underwater, although this may just be a joke as to their seaworthyness.

>Turaw
>Mercantile, Criminal
>The Bandree community near the Hook, it has a reputation for being a hive of scum and villainy - all thanks to the sailors that come in and out of the Hook itself. Was once a respectable mercantile port has been transformed over the years into a mafia run town, with almost every home falling under one protection racket or another. Hookers roam the streets, and coral dealers peddle their poison openly. The only hope is a new military governor at the Hook who is utterly disgusted by the place, and has made it his personal mission to clean it out. The response from Turaw's godfathers has been less than kind, and contributes to ongoing labor issues in the naval port.

>>82367669
i for one, once i'll share it wiht my group once it's done

>>82370560
>>82367669
Unfortunately I immediately went from the flu to thanksgiving to needing to do immediate international travel. I will work as I can and work hard upon my return. At worst I will finish this project via sheer spite.

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Fairoza Landmarks:

>Foehn Aerodrome
>Mercantile, Industrial
>Largest remaining Aerialist stronghold after the fall of Highharbor. Here is the obstensible dockyard of the Lapsarian Air Fleet, but in practice those ships are usually off patrolling or providing air support somewhere. Instead, the Aerodrome has been effectively taken over by civilian operators, which combined with the closing off of Capri Bay has led to a boom in air transport between Fairoza, Haftet, and distant cities such as Gorincamp and Basava. Air pirates also occasionally dock here to try and hawk their ill-gained cargo as well, although there exists a long row of wanted posters that tend to keep out the most infamous troublemakers.

>Izhora Springs
>Entertainment, Esoteric
>A resort town away from all the hustle and bustle of city life, Izhora offers skiing, fishing, hiking, and - most recently, in what is hopefully just a fad - the perfect place in all of Lapsaria for photographic portraits. The mountain lodge is open winter and summer, and is serviced by both an aerial ferry and a funicular. Most recently, a set of caves have been discovered that house ancient mummified remains - and the decision has been made by resort owners to offer tours of the crypts while doing its utmost to keep graverobbers away. Archaeologists believe the crypts are from a tribe of bird worshipers - although they "challenged" the mighty Rocs of the area in some way, rather than offering sacrifices like the Air Pirates do.

>The Old Canal Locks
>Esoteric, Mercantile
>Before the closing of the Capri Bay, there was no true need for railroads or air transport in Fairoza. Instead, a set of river locks allowed steamboats to travel up and down the Capri, even high into the mountains to reach Fairoza itself. Now, they are abandoned and eroding away - with something burrowing its way into the wet stone below the rushing waters. What it is, none dare say.

Volkov

Volkov's Redoubt
>military
>Namesake of the city, this impressive bastion fort overlooks the city and riverport below. Constructed during the Tsardom's initial push into Verkhovoy Timajor, Volkov's Redoubt is perhaps the largest fortification in northern Lapsaria. However, with the nations borders pushed further north and the military command moved to Gorincamp, Volkov's Redoubt is now primarily used for military storage rather than defense. The fort's quartermaster is notoriously amenable to selling military surplus under the table.

Volkov Riverport
>military, mercantile, industrial
>One of the largest inland ports in Lapsaria, the farthest north you can sail up the Timajor without needing locks and canals. Driving economic force in Volkov, home to constant movement of soldiers heading to and from Gorincamp, prisoners being moved north en-masse, and the fruits, labors, and activities of the riverboat tycoons and industrialists at play in Volkov.

The Cathedral of St. Cyril of the North.
>Religious
>The heart of Lapsarian faith in Verkhovoy Timajor. Construction began shortly after the conquest of Verkhovoy Timajor and was finished several decades later. It was built with an intent to awe and inspire the native Aemid population into converting to the Lapsarians religion. As such, this cathedral is notably larger and grander than one would expect from a northern riverport. In addition to this, the cathedral is home to the Monsignor of the Verkhovoy jurisdiction of the Church, and as such is one of the most important cathedrals in Lapsaria.

>>82372410
Well, I await your return CCA. For now, I guess we're on a bit of hiatus.

>>82372410
Huh, I've also been dead from the flu these last few days. Am I you?

>>82372650
>Foehn Aerodrome
>Mercantile, Industrial
>Largest remaining Aerialist stronghold after the fall of Highharbor. Here is the obstensible dockyard of the Lapsarian Air Fleet, but in practice those ships are usually off patrolling or providing air support somewhere. Instead, the Aerodrome has been effectively taken over by civilian operators, which combined with the closing off of Capri Bay has led to a boom in air transport between Fairoza, Haftet, and distant cities such as Gorincamp and Basava. Air pirates also occasionally dock here to try and hawk their ill-gained cargo as well, although there exists a long row of wanted posters that tend to keep out the most infamous troublemakers.

love this

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So, we ended up on this map?

>>82380007
Why is a map of that scale necessary?

>>82380041
For scale.
Though, I thought about remaking this one, but stylized as XVth century map and replace too many details with Terra Incognita.
But only after Jesentorf map.

>>82380007
I think the final version had the vast extending further noertheast
Personally, I'd like the continent to extend further south and east, since it's meant to be a pangea-like supercontinent and it's currently smaller than asia.

>>82380007
I think people disliked how much detail was on the eastern side of the map, so it might be a good idea to design the map from the perspective of a Lapsarian cartographer.

so like have blurred lines near the lower edges and little being definitively known about areas past the vast

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>>82380007
I prefer this one

>>82373402
Is there a map showing what territories correspond to what regional capital?

I feel there is a bit more to the story on why Gorincamp is a regional capital and not Volkov

>>82382909
I think the idea is that Gorincamp is the capital because it's where most of the northern regiment is stationed.
Volkov is barely on the border with the other region, so it might not be able to project enough power over the pass, meanwhile Gorincamp might be in a strategic spot.

>>82382909
These were the posts I was basing the backstory of Volkov off of.
>>82328009
>>82328128
I think the general idea is that Volkov is located almost near the southern border of Verkhovoy Timajor, and that the capital was moved to a more central location to better coordinate the expanded military and prison operations in the area.

>>82383064
Yeah I figured it was something like that, but regional border maps would help tell the story

>>82382909
>Gorincamp
Like this name, woke some memories.

>>82383270
>>82382909
Gorincamp is a military base and the location of the Sloboda Labor Facility, which is an internment camp and labor camp.

>>82383469
Gorin is the last name of one russian schizo from youtube (not like joke schizo, but real one)

>>82382909
I also want Gorincamp to contain:
>The House of Willows
>Academic/Esoteric
>An old Aemii building dating back to the founding of the city. Built from the bowed bones of ancient tundra creatures. It served as a house where elders would teach young shaman the ways of the tribe and secrets of the snowy plants and animals and the mysteries of the Yak. In the modern era it serves as both a cultural gathering place and higher education facility to Aemii mystics, alchemists, botanists, biologists, and more.

For Oraroho:

>Sin Street
>Entertainment, Esoteric
>Although there are few parts of Oraroho where at least some vices can't be bought, Sin Street is the most famous, a three mile stretch of boulevard packed with casinos, bars, bordellos, and drug dens catering to a wide range of income levels.

>College of Oraroho
>Academic, Esoteric, Entertainment, Political
>The College of Oraroho was once a well respected but staid secular academic institute, but due to Oraroho's continued descent into corruption and anarchy, is now more known for its radical freethinking social and science schools, as well as its easy business and arts schools which are popular with noble and merchant families around the world hoping that the irresponsible and extroverted offspring enrolled in them will at least make some valuable connections.

Also, does someone "own" the Lapsaria demographic map? I want to change the sedge wetlands area so it is more like the Lechte and less like the Kossoki plains. Maybe also add one of the Ververia cultures and put them near Mierra if we want Lapsaria to have won ground during the war.

>>82386573
I think it was CCA that did it, but that doesn't stop you from editing the thing.
Putting a but of ververian to show there was ground won, even if the war was a loss overall would be cool

>>82386799
I remember it being thrown around that the lands Lapsaria controls south and west of the Venit (Unnamed fort, Westtower, Mierra) were what they took after the Ververian campaign. There's a chunk there that has no culture on either the Lapsaria or the Ververia map, but should probably have a Marshfolk minority.

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>>82386799
>>82387884
Alright, changed the map for the Sedge Wetlands and Ververian border areas.

Ververia probably had some Venitii inhabited territory along its southeastern border too, so it is ambiguous where the border once was

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Also did one showing the provinces/regions/whatever of Lapsaria.

Too lazy to make it look nice, this is more for the sake of discussion and the development of information of cities.

>>82388695
>>82388927
nice, always helpful to get map stuff down. and the sedge really does look better here.

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>>82332595
I did the mystic for the Jasentorf compass. I dunno if I can find the prompt for it anymore though.

>>82391969
This it?

>The Renegade Mystic
>Despises the Clergy
>Carves Stone freely
>Being hunted by everyone
>Juicing up on the shavings of stone to unknown ends

Also, nice.

>>82392024
there we go, thanks.

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>>82392024

>>82388695
Looks good.

>>82392163
At what point are these compasses going to be de-wojaked? There's clearly talent behind them, but they're being weighed down by a really cringe incel meme.

>>82392960
lmao you do it

>>82392960
Honestly people too angry about the wojak memes. Be angry at the /qa/ retards, not the meme itself.

>>82393887
/qa/ just liked the basedjaks, and it had grown a life of its own on that board. Wojakshit like this is propagated by incels who think they're deep or some other silly shit.

Drawing Wojaks is a way to show respect to dead Krautchan.

>>82392960
well the wojaks are mostly there as the barrier of entry is low and it lets people that have no real artistic talent still contribute

It would be nice to get some real art done, but for now the wojaks are fine

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Obligatory bait/hook edit.

>>82395506
>I GONNA BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIT

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I did another Alerian because I love those guys. A prince or petty king. Haven't got sentences for him.

>>82396057
The Alerian Duke
>Styles himself after the Princes
>At odds with the merchants
>Still has his cunning and faith

>>82396057
Nice

>>82396089
I'm not feeling it

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Well, going to bed but still open for suggestions

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>>82399145
lmao wrong compass

>>82398045
Ok than, how about
>Is a trader as much as a noble
>Prideful of his heritage
>Poisons himself to build immunity

Looks like we're dying. Most people have moved on.

>>82403483
Nah, as for myself and prob quite a few other anons we're waiting for the rule system bc the setting is more than done enough.

>>82403505
I will get this done, but it will take time even when I'm back to working on it.

>>82403483
I know I'm dying. Fuck the flu

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>>82403483
Tbh, we need play testers, badly.

>>82407763
I mean, finishing up the system is probably more of a priority

>>82407930
It's still possible test setting and outside of homebrew system.

>>82407763
Can't even playtest it as is.

>>82408026
>>82407763
It's not playtestable. After the lifepaths are done and the skill uses are nailed down we can do basics and then combat can be worked on.

Combat is a little more complex because it is where numbers directly derived from stats come from.

Bulk (which is derived directly from Brawn), Initiative (which is derived directly from Reflex), and Speed (which is derived directly from Coordination)

Also the process of being wounded and wounding, and how to make enemy blocks. The system is designed to make running NPCs inherently more simple than PCs, because they lack Edge Pools and Effort Pools.

In addition the idea is the vast majority of enemies do not fight to the death, they have a Morale threshold which is measured in wounds. You get 6 wounds until death, and most enemies stop at between 2-4 wounds (3 wounds makes a particular body section disabled, which means most enemies go unconscious after 3 wounds to the head regardless).

The only enemies that would not are things like:
>Undead (the setting has very minimal undead, with ghosts being the only major, but I was considering integrating strange frozen corpses from deep within the Suuri lands)
>Monsters (mutated wendigo vastians or other vastian horrors, as well as things like The Brackish Ones)
>Machinery (a vehicle, tank, etc, which counts as a character for wounds is only disabled when all six wounds are done)

>>82408389
How would something like Our Lady in Grey work? Since it's a undead machine does it just play by its own rules?

>>82411986
Maybe you need to fight to disable certain parts of it (eg the engine room), then optionally board it to exorcize it temporarily?
Ship to ship combat in general probably has special rules.

>>82411986
Large vehicle combat needs their own rules.

>>82411986
>Our Lady in Grey work
It's more special encounter, so if players could access ship resolving what happens inside should be done by GM.

>>82414111
>Ship to ship combat in general probably has special rules.
Rogue Trader from FFG had some fun with ship fights.

I guess we can use simple maneuver templates for naval battles.

>>82418212
I think a full wargame is unnecessary. What is necessary is “your party is in a boat, attacked by another boat - what do?”

>>82418451
I could see it as an expansion once everything else is done but as for rn that is an easy solution.

>>82418451
what other systems exist for that?

>>82418451
idk, maneuver templates are simple and fun. While ships could be represented justs as rectangles on the square grid.

>>82418466
>>82418451
there was one anon working on wargame army lists

idk if he's still here and working on it tho

The biggest piece of evidence that this thread is dead is that I haven't had anything to draw for days

>>82424762
I have some ideas to draw but I'm feeling tired lately.

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>>82399160
I don't have much in the way of ideas right now, but here's two:
>The Gaufenburg Pirate
>Coming home from a long voyage to the Sunset Isles
>took down a Lapsarian merchant ship, scored some cool new cannons
>wondering how exactly you use this "oil" stuff
>"gee, I can't wait to see my wife and daughter again"

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>>82399160
>The Quartz Assassin
>blood for coin, has served every faction
>the renegade mystic provides his charms
>can become as invisible as glass
>his knife can cut the clouds

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>>82425963
Alternatively:
>the Alerian Naval Captain
>his ship is his nation, and he is its prince
>the Jasendorf navy was once the greatest in the world...
>now, it can barely fight off pirates

>>82426053
>his ship is his nation, and he is its prince
love it

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>>82399160
The Terror of Gaufenburg
>No one knows where it came from
>Leave nothing but death and destruction
>Wanders the world hunting for blood
This is an obvious joke

>>82427613
based.

>>82426010
This is actually pretty cool.

>>82425963
>>82426010
>>82426053
finally something to draw

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>>82426010

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The Apprentice Gonne Witch
>covered in charcoal dust, reeks of urine and rotten eggs
>student in the art of militarized hellfire
>has a little pet salamander
>do not accept her offer to "kaboom with her"

Note: I used Megumin as the sample since she is appropriately explosion crazy, but if you're drawing her then it is important to note:
>dirty hair and skin
>probably a more drab shade of red on her clothes
>nice hat (very important for all witches)
>insane smile
>GUN

>>82435844
bruh, looks great.

>>82436196
love it, probably gonna draw her

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>>82436196
The Master Gonne Witch
>her order feeds the hearth of war
>despised by everyone, necessary evil
>the death caused by her art grants her unnatural life
>remembers the last kaiser

>>82436309
Oh, I forgot to mention: please add a nice hat to the old witch.
This is important.

>>82332533
>Thread is a week old
Was fun while it lasted, I guess.

>>82436321
Well it'd help if people contributed ideas again to fill up the last compasses. I'm trying, but I can only do so much with landmark descriptions and a few new characters by myself.

>>82436321
Thanks for the bump, anyhow setting is pretty much done and the system will get done when it gets done.

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>>82436309
>>82436196

>>82436196
>>82436309
As cute as megumin is, these two don't fit with the low magic of the setting.

>>82436399
It's not really magic, it's chemistry with a dash of stone magic. They make enchanted gunpowder.

>>82436321
Yeah the thread should be allowed to die because now all the easy work is done. Now it’s up to CCA to do the actually hard work and make the system/translate the lore dump into a setting document.

>>82436409
Stoneshapers already do this, but a folkier stone shaper isn't too out of the realm.

>>82436423
Let’s be real, the thread slowed to a crawl as soon as CCA got busy.

>>82436399
what about the aprentice gone witch is not low magic? What about her is magic, period?

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>>82436196
gonna do something else for the evening, but here's the WIP

>>82436441
Think of the gun witches on a hypothetical opposite alignment to the stone shapers. Gunpowder <-> Stone. We don't have to actually make that part of the compass, but it's the idea.

>>82436499
Cute!

>>82436505
lol what, they'd at best just be lower pain and or closer to stone by like 1 or 2

>>82436309
just fyi, I'm not gonna do this one
>>82426053
I might do this one tho

Where is CCA?

>>82436354
>anyhow setting is pretty much done
You can say that again.

>>82436581
First he had a cold, then he was travelling internationally.

>>82436722
I disagree, we still have >>82332595 and >>82332617 to fill. If there's a concerted effort there, then we can be done.

>>82436737
ngl it's a stretch to keep making more of the compasses. Those will get finished when they get finished but I couldn't care if they were just left as is. They are supplementary to the main setting and sufficiently filled out by the slightly smaller compass anyhow.

>>82436774
the setting is supplementary to the compass and always has been

>>82436737
There is also the ververia compass from last thread.

>>82436866
Kek

>>82436948
thats retarded, it should be mergednwith the north so the wendigo has a home

>>82437302
The wendigo can have a home on the north compass, they don't live in ververia.
Also ververia is the western front.

>>82437666
Ververia is the western extension of the Suuri cultural landscape. the two fit together well

>>82437683
In that case we should also merge all the other compasses on the main one, because it all has the same level of connection. Ververia is it's own thing.

>>82437712
Yeah, Ververia is distinct enough from the Suuri that it would be a weird choice to combine north + Ververia into one compass.

>>82437712
Why would we merge the other compasses? They are perfectly sustainable on their own. You're acting like there's any call for those great interesting Ververian archetypes

>>82437973
Because the reason you have given on why they should be merged is because the culture is close enough to suuri, and so far there isn't much on that other than a few references on totems and the highlander being related to the tribals, but so that's all the connection so far, so following that line of thought, all the conpass are close enough that they should be merged.
If you wanted to say that Ververia should be merged because there isn't a lot about the place, than you should have said that to begin with. But that is still a dumb idea, because a place doesn't get expanded by refusing to expand on it.

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>>82438110
literally Ververia is the result of a merging of a Suuri culture with a coastal culture. And I didn't give their relation as a reason for them to be merged but for them to fit together well. The real reason why they should be merged is so that there is enough interest for the compass for both sides to profit from it. But whatever, there isn't a Northern compass and I don't see anyone doing Ververian stuff so it's all academic anyway.

So instead, say something nice about the gun witch.

>>82438280
Not to complain, but the hat could use some holes in it

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>>82438303
what, like this?

>>82438389
The holes in her apron are great, but I meant the hat. The rest of her looks perfect, but the hat looks a little plain.
I dunno, maybe she just takes especially good care of it.

>>82438401
yea that seemed to eb the implication that everything's dirty and fucked except for the hat >>82436196

>>82438280
I doubt that, the north is way more polished and interesting than Ververia so far, putting them together would most likely just end up expanding the suuri more and leaving the ververia stillborn.
I think the real reason there is no-one doing anything for ververia is that there is no-one doing nearly anything.
Other than you, who is probably the anon behind the jasentorf stuff, and no, the guy who did the wendigo doesn't count.Because it's me, and I have been without the will to draw lately, and I don't know why. I was thinking of adding the queen, a ververian venitii, a regular marsher, and maybe a noble or merchant.
No, I did not fuck up a spoiler.

>>82438568
>you, who is probably the anon behind the jasentorf
I mean, I draw what there are prompts for. I've also done stuff for Ververia and the Summer Islands, and a whole bunch on the main compass.

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The Gonne Witches of Jasentorf
>One part alchemist's guild, one part monastic order; the Gonne Witches are the gunsmiths and blackpowder chemists of the Jasentorf princedoms - although not one completely approved by the state itself. Originally simply members of a Sisters in Iron convent that dabbled in chemistry and medicine, the Witches were born out of a theological/philosophical debate regarding the nature of time and the true purpose of holy sculpting. To the Gonne Witches, time is an illusion and all things exist in a long series of unchanging moments; however, these eternal presents not perfect and therefore must be altered by great force to create beauty and achieve the true purpose of reality - a great and powerful explosion ("what is the great diversity of life if not an explosion?" "what is a man if not an explosion of thought and emotion", etc). Some of this has roots to observations of volcanoes ("surely the universe once began in such a cauldron"), some of this is simply a reaction to the violence that overwhelmed Jasentorf and seeks to find a reason for it all. They are not fire worshipers, but rather very eccentric "sculptors" seeking the ultimate chisel. To make their way in the world, Gonne Witches hire themselves out to local lords and are kept as behind the scenes as possible by those same lords due to their expertise and importance, much to the disappointment of many a Gonne Witch. A true mark of mastery in a Witch is the ability to carve runes of enchantments in not only guns and artillery, but the grains of powder themselves - which requires most to wear eyepatches or blindfolds while working on their masterpiece. These enchantments grant not only more powerful explosions, but also trick bullets and occasionally gunpowder with odd effects - such as directly imparting an idea into those who see the explosion. Thus far, these experiments are considered to be profitable failures.
[cont.]

>>82438610
Yeah, I'm not trying to duscredit that, it's just that the jasentorf compass is pratically all you, so it's easier to think you as the jasentorf anon.

>>82438646
[cont.]
>Despite everything, the Witches still show great respect for the Carver Monks and their Menhirs - even though it is not reciprocated. After all, the entire intention of the Witches is to create the perfect sculpture - lasting forever in a single moment of fire, earth, and blood. Theirs is a religious artform, just like their blind brothers. It's too bad that nobody sees them anything more than useful heretics.

And I'm sure many of you will find the whole concept of "lol, time is an illusion" to be weird; but this was unironically argued in Ancient Greece and is where Zeno's Paradox comes from. The entire idea of the paradox was to disprove time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno%27s_paradoxes#Paradoxes_of_motion

The Witches believe that reality is a piece of stone, and they are its sculptor. Explosions are their chisel, and guns just something they do to make money.