>>81767754
nonexistent because my setting takes place 30 years before it’s creation

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They operate in a similar fashion to the Inquisition in 40k. They are a fairly loose organization who's only binding aspects are the varied traditions they have come up with and their over-arching mission to defend the nation from enemies within and without.

They pull members from all stratums of society and otherwise exist in their own unique cells with the given areas they operate in. Their title is a Knight and aside from certain obligations to the Knight-Commander they operate almost entirely on their own and of their own volition and often utilizing their own self-acquired resources.

>>81767754
They glow in the dark. You can see them if you're driving. You just run them over, that's what you do.

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>>81767754
secretly taken over by the Bene Gesserit

>>81767754
As the racist anti American human trafficking citizen murdering organization they are.

>>81767754
An essential and professional bureaucracy that nevertheless sometimes fucks things up catastrophically and acts on bad intel, and tends to vote Republican.

>>81767754
Patriots who have to use immoral means to achieve the most good for their people.

>>81767754
In a light blue polo, a slubby dark blue jacket, and khakis.

>>81767754
They glow in the dark, for one

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>>81767754
closest thing would be like the MiB but with the occasional interference from over powered higher-ups like the Culture's Special Circumstances

Chaotic Evil of course

>>81767754
My game is set in an alt-future Europe where the supernatural exists and monsters come from the moon. The deaths of the Apollo 11 mission's astronauts at the hands of Lunarian monsters was covered up by the US Government for the rest of the century and some change. This resulted in mass riots across America and arrest/death warrants for all alphabet agencies when the truth came out following the opening of the Wikileaks ransom file.

So yeah, normally.

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>>81769542
>The deaths of the Apollo 11 mission's astronauts at the hands of Lunarian monsters was covered up by the US Government
you should watch Apollo 18 anon

>>81767754
Glowingly.

>>81767754
As the only based individuals responsible to making commies everywhere ree impotently by sabotaging their pathetic attempts to exist.

>>81767754
It doesn't exist and law enforcement is very much in a sort of "wild west" era where private investigation organizations are used like cops would be today, while the actual cops are few and far between

>>81767972
this

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>>81767754

As they are in real life but more competent

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>>81767754
When I'm playing FATAL, there's normally at least a three step process:
1) Roll for Anal Circumference Potential.
2) Roll for Penis Size.
3) Roll for Insertion.

>>81772121
based

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>>81767754
very cute and sexy

>>81767754
THey wear polo shirts and jeans and are always on the lookout for the masked man.

>>81768850
>the most good for their people.
Motherfucker, tons of crack flowing through every major city in the US did non good for any people. Fuck outta here with your apologia.

>>81772373
I hafta point out, the Feds and the Spooks fucking HATE each other.
Mostly because the Spooks got a few Feds killed in the Eighties when they were basically the American arm of various Latin American cocaine cartels.

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>>81773994
>CIA makes crack plentiful for the common man
>faggy Americans still find a way to complain

>>81774132
Yeah, because the glowies get all pissy if you actually try to enjoy the crack they give you.

>>81767754
As inferior to NSA personnel in every way...just like in the real world. Former crypto-linguist and intel analyst, here. Once you work for one of the Agencies you realize they're just people...flesh and blood and flawed. Only here's my informed take. NSA- top tier. Recruits the smartest most hard working, diligent, and professional ppl. CIA likewise tries to recruit smart and diligent ppl, but they're too fucking cocksure, pretend jaded, and believe they're infallible and buy into their own false press. Arrogant assholes as time goes by. FBI-Fucking glorified cops who're given too much juice. Fucking need to be re-orged and broken up into a series of interstate criminal taskforces/ specialists. DEA-semi-useless fuckers. ATF- Need to all be told there is a mandatory ATF appreciation convention with hookers and blow that they must all attend (they'd believe this), then when they all show up they should all be declared a criminal gang, arrested and perp walk directly to a supermax facility.

>>81767754
Are you fucking serious? Dude, you're doing it wrong. I play games to get away from shit like the CIA and modern world political garbage.

>>81767754
Actually good at their job.
>>81774014
Huh really? That's actually interesting, please tell me more.

>>81774302
The ATF always did strike me as the glue eaters of the letter orginazations, if only because they seem to have an astounding level of ignorance over the shit they're in charge of policing. Like if someone were to put the agricultural board of a state in charge of determining if a roller coaster was safe and structurally sound or not Yes this actually happened
The DEA being semi useless really fits too since like, the majority of their time seems to be spent on a drug that's not even illegal in every state anymore. Complete fucking waste of time

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>>81767754
I run DG.

It depends on the player character, one of them is a guy who largely wants to do good things, but is extremely paranoid and willing to do shady things.

The other disappears for 1/2 to 2/3 of a session, and has probably done some really fucked up shit offscreen to help them accomplish their goal. So far she has
>Pulled NSA data on 60+ americans to see who had visited a location
>Then later organized a hit squad of 12 agents with zero accountability to go take out the rest of these agents that weren't at the ceremony. This was at least 30 people, staging accidents or suicides, poisonings or long-term health conditions, all under the cover of night.
The reason she isn't there for most of the session was she misread her class days when signing up and isn't able to make it until 1/2 to 2/3 of a session. She's made it from the start for a few.
She's VERY good with people but also always the first to reach for a silenced pistol or do some fucked up shit like planting drugs on someone. Had a hilariously botched B&E to plant drugs on a pastor a while back.

>>81767754
every time I've included an intelligence agency or crime ring in my settings, my players have been completely oblivious to the threat, and haven't even come close to discovering even a small part of it

>players piss off the local mafia don
>"oh, this shady local lawyer figured out who we are, and suddenly seems eager to set up a meeting with the don so we can apologize!"
>"let's do it guys!"
they came very close to being godfather'd and only escaped because their own incompetence saved them

>>81767754

That's the neat part.
I don't.
I use KGB or Gestapo as a base, I don't want sandniggers using bombs I gave them by not aknowledging possible consequences.

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>>81774416
Why would you shoot a man after throwing him out of a plane?

>>81774416
>Throw guy down a plane, death ensured
>Shoot guy in the head anyway

What anime is this?

>>81767754
stupid golem chairsurfers that exist to be mangled by players and enemies alike

>>81774456
Because it's fucking cool that's why.

>>81774368
ATF are a fuck bunch of bone stupid csers. If it were kindergarten...you know the kids that sit drooling and eating paste and their own snot....well the atf aspire to be that kid...instead they're the developmentally disabled ones that were deemed too potentially violent for genpop with the normal kids and instead entertain themselves with smearing their feces on the walls in an outbuilding.

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>>81767754
Wait a minute, that's no CIA agent!

>>81774456
>At least you can talk!

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>>81774457
>What anime is this?
The Wings of a Boy that Killed Adolescence...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWz2BWGxqMI

Largely dissolved as a larger organization after the US fell into anarchy as the virus first killed off 70% of everyone, and the drones raised on Hollywood entertainment then proceeded to raid and pillage each other despite there being an overabundance of resources already. The remaining 2-3% of the original population now live in a Mad Max world and the CIA is just another biker gang.

>>81774456
>Why would you shoot a man after throwing him out of a plane?
by agency
NSA- to be thorough
CIA cause we're awesome, bitch, whose gonna say we can't huh?
FBI Sorry, sorry, soooory. Misfire! Still getting used to carrying a sidearm.
DEA I thought I smelled weed on him! Shit! Should I not have done that?
ATF: Shit, I hit him? fuck I was trying to hit his unarmed wife and child. This won't affect my position as a sniper right?

>>81774416
I find it more hilarious they made that ramp with a table fastened to it just for the purpose of throwing people off. I mean you can't really load/unload anything with that table in the middle.

>>81773994
I'm sorry you seem to be confusing inner city scum with actual people/Americans.

>>81767754
I want to rape the smug off that alpaca

>>81774505
>redditbuddy
And respect for you discarded.

>>81774132
Because
1. They kept the pure shit for themselves
2. They want to punish you for using it

It's like how "terrorists" have a right to bear arms because the CIA will supply them but if a citizen tries to exercise his second amendment rights and right to privacy he gets Ruby Ridged for the ATF's pleasure.

>>81772373
>tfw no boomer glowie gf who shitposts for a living

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>>81767754
My PCs work for the magical UN CIA

It's full of conspiracies and shitty rogue agents

>>81775045
Disliking popular things makes you neither interesting nor intelligent.

>>81775190
I don't dislike it because it's popular, I dislike it because it's shit and spammed everywhere by mentally stunted pseudointellectuals, much like Rick and Morty, Big Bang Theory, and other things that sell the idea of being cleverly subversive without actually being clever or subversive.

>>81775008
Probably fine for a non-combat transport plane, albeit inconvenient. People can just walk past the table.

>>81774302
So, you're saying the DHS is the most morally culpable of the lot for doing nothing to stop the rest- and thus the biggest hvt. Thanks, it's always difficult to pick out the biggest head of the hydra, one might mistakenly target the irs.

>>81775212
>pseudointellectual
Nigger, it's memes and titty jokes

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>>81767754
supervillain x-men

>>81774494
that fuckin hitachi is probably the biggest threat in the whole cage

>>81774457
Gundam Wing

>>81775212
Look I'm not fond of baalsackbuddy either, but what the fuck are you talking about? What I've seen of his humor is lowbrow as hell

>>81775268
It's shit attempts at subversive humor + unfunny titty jokes.

>>81767754

MiB who like to pretend they know everything and are in complete control but in reality are complete schizos who've lost track of all their shit

>>81775415
You can have lowbrow attempts at being clever, i.e. Rick and Morty.

>>81775226
How is that fine? What would be the intended purpose of having that table fastened there, assuming it's totally not for surprise kills.

>>81767754
In front of the plane waiting

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Haha imagine being trapped with her in an abandoned rundown church in the Ukrainian countryside waiting for your respective evacs and she just goes off on an insane pseudo-philosophical schizo rant that only barely relate to anything cohesive if you squint a little

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>>81772373
>tfw no glowienigress gf
I feel pity for the agents stuck in dead-end jobs with us here. They must really hate us and the place.

>>81775439
It's vulgar humor, dead simple.

>>81767754
Light blue polos and kaki pants, they fly to remote places to pick up international criminals

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>>81775691
>what if HOT GORL was horny and FAT NERD kept rejecting her advances??!
It's literally the most basic bitch comedy through subversion out there. Even more basic since he stole the foundation for every single punchline he draws from a nearly decade old gag manga one-off by zun.

>>81767754
My "every conspiracy ever is probably true" setting has the CIA as the hilariously bumbling outfit who have only managed to fool the public into thinking they're in charge by coincidence and the real people in charge cleaning up after them.

I felt things were getting a bit too real so I added a bit of humor.

>>81775975
that there's anyone to clean up after them?

>>81775508
>What would be the intended purpose of having that table fastened there
they want a table in their cargo plane, and if it isn't fastened to the body of the plane it'll get knocked around

>>81767754
Like those crazy ladies who write love letters to mass murderers, only that they are in charge.

>>81776029
So you fasten it to the ramp of all places? Right.

>>81775989
Basically.
I introduced my players veeeeery slowly to the supernatural and all the other goings on. So it was great fun when they were still scared shitless of the alphabets to have an agency without an official name land on scene and treat the CIA like a big dumb guard dog that caught something it couldn't handle.

I have all my alphabet boys be very easy to spot. To the point when I say someone is wearing khakis and a watch my players already know it's a glowie. The guys above them could be anybody.

>>81767754
Silver Circle. One of the 'lost' towers of magic which supposedly fell to infighting, but in reality simply wiped it's existence from every record they could find and went underground to continue their task of making sure that certain artifacts don't fall into the wrong hands.

Basically a gang of highly trained assholes with a very specific agenda who are accountable to effectively nobody and barely regard murder as a crime as long as it was committed in the course of their task. As such, they don't have many friends, but what they do have is practically infinite funding, which opens doors nonetheless.

They're also fluorescent under UV lighting due to a mental/physical augmentation tonic they take.

>>81767754
He has intimidating posture and is babe for enemies of the state

>>81776397
Bane, I meant bane!!!

>>81767754
I don't, cause I'm not a Yank nor have any other reason to insert it or stand-ins

>>81775291
Nah, that's a spec ops grade T-Doll. That's, judging by the image, gone loco. That's scary.
she wants to be human and ends up betraying her handler and team to achieve her dream

>>81767754
Terrorism, fear mongering and lying are common practices

>>81767846
What? How can you play before the world was created?

>>81768850
That praise is pretty (((glowing))).

>>81774456
Gotta make sure he doesn't survive if he lands on something soft.

>>81776397
>>81776416
Say what you want but the strange cat and mouse game they play with the enemies of the state makes more sense in the light of your original statement.

>>81767754
As a self-sustaining conspiracy that keeps fighting both the remnants of the Plutocracy which it once claimed to serve and the Thaumaturgic World Government that ousted its former lords. The only thing motivating its ancient, enigmatic masters is a lust for absolute power so unquenchable that it’s the only thing keeping them going despite the fact that they have been reduced to little more than disembodied central nervous systems kept alive by a combination of esoteric enchantments and advanced machinery. Its agents consists of a loyalist inner circle who relay the masters’ orders onto the rank and file, who in turn have been brainwashed, coerced or manipulated into working for the organization.

In reality, the CIA of the 23rd century has been subverted by STYGIUS, a renegade AI who was intended to be the ultimate weapon against the nascent T.W.G., but who turned on his masters and disabled their life support systems. Since then, it has been working on a plan to exterminate what remains of humanity.

>>81774014
that's because, at least on paper, the Feds are cops and the CIA is a paramilitary organisation

>>81774302
Sounds like the NERD got bullied by the chads with guns and badges.

>>81774368
Agricultural boards runs the state fairs.
In most states, without an amusement park, the only exposure to roller coasters would be a state fair.
Why is this a bad idea? It's not like the board members themselves are inspecting it. They are going to hire someone to do it.
> tldr
You are a fucking idiot

>>81767754
Purely as villainous and self-serving. They, along with essentially all other "intelligence service" people are essentially all at the height of inhuman cruelty and sadism in my games.

>>81774014
Mostly because they compete for slices form the same pie of governmental budget.
It's a lot like Army vs Navy vs Marines vs Chair Force vs Coast Guard.

>>81767846
It's "its" you fucking moutherbreather. You're a grown ass adult, learn the difference between its and it's already, holy shit.
>>81776190
You too you dumb cunt. "It's" is a contraction of "it is," what is so hard to understand about that? Can you not read? Can you not comprehend monosyllabic words that are taught in kindergarten? Off yourself, genuinely.

>>81775023
>Dumbass ruralfag doesn't know who's supplying all the meth in the region

>>81779216
Dude... nobody bullies the NSA. Nobody. Some FBI idiots tried to drop in one one of our ops once when I was working. Our lt col in charge picked up the phone, contacted Deputy DIRNSA. That shit got settled fast. It ended with the lead agent being walked out by mps, and us being back on ops within 45 minutes. CIA is smart enough to know not to mess with NSA ops and personnel. I've heard tell of situations when the CIA did try to horn in on an NSA op and they were told that if they continued to persist,that the NSA security staff (military security) would be cleared to shoot them. This was not flexing, this is simply apparently how they operated. Seriously man, NSA does not fuck around, it's all business for them.

>>81779216
Don’t you have some begging to do, Chipman?
I hope you get Ruby Ridge’d.

>>81775262
Can't comment on that. When I was in that field the DHS didn't exist yet. But if you're asking my personal opinion about DHS. They're on the same footing at ATF in my opinion. They're thugs at best and mouthbreaking paste eaters as well. Seriously, look at the caliber of their staff and try to say "yep, there go america's best and brightest" with a straight face.
If you try that with NSA or CIA you can generally feel that you'll hit some gold nuggets there at least occasionally. But AFT or DHS? newp.

As for moral responsibility. That's part of why I left the intel field. I was making calls and briefing people in positions of authority to do some pretty morally questionable things. I did not care for the person it was turning me into, so I left. Seriously, not blowing smoke here, you start viewing decisions about things in terms of how it will affect national interests and stop looking at it in terms of "how many people will get hurt as a result of this" You gotta have a certain level of icewater in your veins to keep working in that field. Some of the scariest mfs I've ever met were analysts for NSA. They're smart and eventually just lack consciences anymore. Pure calculation machines.

>>81779665
>tfw alphabet agencies care about grammar
based

>>81781126
Well yeah. If you got a 4 year degree and got stuck looking at 4chan all day wouldn't you try to educate the locals every now and then?

>>81780954
*shakes head* don't worry man, he's an idiot. Thanks for the comment there but seriously, people like that, who try to play the "nerd" and "chad" thing don't understand the first thing about real life out there. I can tell you first hand, Agency staff who get physical or try to shove weight around on staff from other Agencies, they get fired or sent to shithole assignments till they adjust their attitude if they've got a reasonable chance of remediation. Writeoffs get tossed. That's why you don't see interagency turf wars very often.

>>81781064
at=as They're on the same footing as ATF. Fuck I hate that I can't edit after posting here.

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>>81781064
>Some of the scariest mfs I've ever met were analysts for NSA.
okay keep going time for greentext anon

>>81781184
not the guy who responded, but yeah, I feel the same. Basic fucking English grammar, do you know it? It's frustrating for me too at times.

>>81781064
Have you ever waterboarded anybody, Mr. A?

>>81781064
They literally try to egg on mass shooters lmao, what is the positive outcome from that?

>>81781327
Nope. That sort of shit is pointless. I'm not saying the certain methods don't work at getting answers, it's just now you have to verify every answer they give. In the right instance you can get key info, but you can't trust that they aren't lying to make it stop. Everything said is then suspect.

>>81767754
As brutish, dim-witted, morally irredeemable drone-like enforcers of the totalitarian dystopian government for the players to guiltlessly slaughter by the dozens. As it should be

>>81781353
The NSA has no involvment in that sort of shit. All the egging on is FBI, ATF, and Cops generally, and I've made clear my opinion of those yahoos already.

>>81781241
I wish. Thing is, most of that shit results in national policy decisions. It doesn't look all flashy or anything. It's the long term affects that those policy decisions create. Stuff like Chechnya. That's a good example. Look at our current stance on the Ukraine. We're all threatening to the Russians when they talk about invading the Ukraine right? But where was that same bluster when they went in full force into Chechnya? NSA theoretically might have advised us to stay the fuck out of that for very very specific reasons. If you look at what followed that invasion, you'll see why an analyst might have guided that policy. It did massive damage to Russian military might and international credibility for decades, at no cost to the US.

>>81779665
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>>81781184
>>81781267
I'm ESL and every time someone uses 'should of' it really makes me grind my teeth kek

>>81780918
>>81774302
>agencies are just flesh and blood and flawed
>except for the one I was a part of, it was ROCK HARD 24/7 AND EVERYONE RESPECTED US RAWR
Christ I hate glowies so fucking much.

>>81781184
And yet they can't even spell mouthbreather or remember the ATF's initials consistently.

>>81781126
Glowniggers can't spell and I'm not one of them.

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>>81781509
could you describe your daily routine as an analyst? what kind of office? security measures? discussions with the colleagues at the coffee machine?
i'm looking for small details to flesh out a corporate/administration setting

>>81774456
He had a lot of loyalty for a hired gun.

>>81781625
this shit pisses me off too
this is now a grammar thread

>>81781184
>>81779665
god damn I hate grammar nazi faggots like you

>>81781873
we hate you more

>>81767754
A nationless international rent-a-cop organization with palpable corruption running through its many wings. Resemble Stazi/Gestapo/KGB in most instances but not!Waco is a regular occurrence on their behalf, including all the press that followed that. They're also furries.

In my recent implementation of them, they lured the players into joining a PMC that was actually a false flag terrorist cell. Easy enough to say, the realization and then undeniable justification for chasing after any Fed in sight left my players elated.

>>81767754
Definitely not hot anime bitches.

>>81767754
My party are agents of our setting’s MiB, which the public assumes is a cover for CIA stuff rather than paranormal stuff, but we do both. In the span of three missions we’ve unintentionally lived up to the stereotype by way of accidental false-flag terrorist attacks, political assassination, wiping out a primitive tribe for the sake of imperialist capitalism, drug dealing, and stock market manipulation.

>>81767972
this

>>81774416
What is really retarded is that in this anime, she's fucking 19 years old. Japan is really dumb about character ages.

>>81786313
Edward Theblackprince was 16 at Crecy. In fact, modern viewers' inability to get anything done until they're 40 is the reason they think protagonists should all be equally old and worn out, when in fact, characters in general should be much younger.

>>81786577
Is this why you play as a 15 years old prodigy with strange hair color and 3 years of field experience under his belt?

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Should the CIA always be in charge?

>>81768850
Your glow is showing, “anon”.

>>81779663
>puddle pirates ever doing anything of note
Kek.

>>81779665
relax, its not a big deal :)

>>81775682
You call one officer, not agent. Case officer preferably.

Am I the only one with a slight suspicion that there are actual glowies in here? Not the posturing ones, but the subtle ones.

>>81787105
There are obviously glowies here

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>>81774055
Kind of a cool idea if the CIA like people in a setting augmented themselves with supernatural powers.
>>81767754
>>81768328
>>81772373
>>81774416
>>81774494
>>81774505
>>81775663
>>81775882
Pic related.

>>81787105
I doubt that there are any actively-posting glowies ITT. The thread itself is probably not even being actively monitored.
But it is pretty likely that all information relating to this thread will be archived on a server somewhere in case it becomes useful later.

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>>81787376
Boyish Trap > Draw a girl, call it a boy

>>81774456
He's a big guy

>>81781741
First thing most analyst work is done in a SCIF. read up on what a SCIF is.All entrances are guarded, and all comings and goings are monitored closely. SCIFs have a vault or vaults where all classified docs are kept and are checked in/out. All door have coded locks. You have to have need to know to know what the code combos are to even get in, and they change frequently. So even if you have access to the scif 99% of the building will be inaccessible. Even higher up won't access more than a fraction of the facility. Alarms everywhere on every door. No door labels. Yes there are armed patrols everywhere. No outside facing windows, or they're super thick, textured, and frosted glass. All computers and equipment are TEMPEST shielded. Coffee machine discussions aren't really a thing because its not a corporate type environment. Yes there are coffee machines but you don't have public break areas cept a cafeteria. Noone talks work in those areas because your work information is likey ts sci codeword (top secret sensitive compartmented information with a codeword or words. stuff like umbra, talent keyhole, cosmic bohemian, that sort of thing.) Discussion w colleagues are usually confined to you ops floor in an open office floor pit type environment. You have your station with all your equipment in front of you with your back to the open floor area for your project team. Team lead is usually in the center. Anyone can call a huddle and all needed analysts engage on the open floor area. Plus there's usually a daily standup meeting where everyone on your analyst team discusses what they're working on and progress.

>>81787376
>if you don't like basic bitch coom """humor""" then you MUST love basic bitch babby's first trap
Why are coomfags so defensive? Is it because they have no taste.
>>81787564
Pic not related, I presume?

>>81767754
good guys who keep the world safe, i know, i know but it is a fantasy world after all.

>>81787764
Ummm...that's pretty specific.
>>81787406
I think you might be wrong. There's some genuine obscure stuff.

>>81788379
Yeah, but it's all passive and nonthreatening information that's largely already public, if not frequently talked-about.
They'd need a lot more agents if they were monitoring every place where discussion of this sort happened.

>>81781509
>the Ukraine
Why are you using outdated terminology?

>>81788457
I was asked for daily routine stuff.
>what kind of office? security measures? discussions with the colleagues at the coffee machine?
ppl don't get that it doesn't fit the corporate/admin model. It isn't cubical land. You go in a scif and day 1 a senior crypto or analyst or whatever meets you at the security checkpoint and they badge you in and take you to your ops room where you'll be working with your team. You'll more than likely see ppl you already know because you've been training at Goodfellow, or DLI, or Lackland or The Presideo, or any number of places together. Its a small community. They give you the newst combo to get into that room and anyothers you need and you memorize them or you don't get in. The ops floor is basically a big room with a cabled underfloor...no wifi for computers, everything is grounded and shielded cat 6 and up or fiber. Can't discuss os on computers but lets just say I hope you like unix. Anyway, ops floor is broken up into teams who cluster together, usually by geographic region of experience or task type. There is not a room for shooting the shit like a corporate breakroom. Noone stands around the watercooler and gossips about GoT or shit like that. Yeah we might talk shit to each other in standup (a team meeting at start or mid-day where you all roll your chairs over together and everyone on your team or subteam goes around the circle and talks about their current work and bounce ideas off each other or resources) It's all pretty serious and treated like such. You would also throw out theories for events that are developing in your area and see if the other analysts call bullshit on them and tear them down, or you might just have your whole team pivot and start researching your theory because its got legs and its interesting. but yeah, you work in that opsroom and the rest of the facility other than the vault might remain a total mystery because you don't need to know what's happening in those other rooms

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>>81767754
big guys...
...for you

>>81789166
Because that's who I was taught to refer to it by Gozpodine Lebadev at DLI. For reference he was a Russian language instructor there and former Captain in the Black Sea fleet and from The Ukraine. His word on what the correct terminology is, seems pretty definitive to me.

>>81789587
that's who=that's how

>>81767754
lot of loyalty for a hired gun

>>81774505
Lady Une was supposed to be 19 years old? What the fuck? I assumed everyone who wasn't the Gundam pilots and Release was at least in their mid 20s.

>>81779663
Supposedly the CIA should have NOTHING to do with domestic affairs, and the fbi shouldn’t fuck around in other countries.
In the feds defense their breaking of that rule is almost non existent and well explained while the cia just takes big kosher shits all over everything.

>>81789719
All anime characters are teenagers until proven otherwise

>>81780918
Because the NSA is the final form of the fbi>cia rootless globohomo evolution.
They overtly have no qualms selling out Americans and their information to foreign powers for the slightest benefit.

>>81789794
Unless they look 12 or younger, then they're assumed to be 200+ years old.

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>>81787764
thank you for your time anon
sounds really soul-crushing indeed
i hope you won't get disappeared by men in black in an unmarked van for this ^_^

>>81789501
are these analysts highly specialized? or do they just plow through anything they might find interesting and see what sticks? are outside specialists involved sometimes?

>>81790472
>outside specialists
reminds me that in France the military was recently recruiting sci-fi authors for a think tank
sounds comfy af

>>81767754
Running a sci-fi game, so no CIA, but the Office for Internal Security of the local hegemon power is the closest thing. They spy on everything and everyone, have deep pockets to exercise soft power with and if that proves insufficient to deal with a situation they have operators operating, stone cold motherfuckers with the best tech and training. Think the CIA boys from Sicario but with stealth gunships and power armor. They are spooky as fuck and you don't ever want to hear from them.

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>>81786577
>Edward Theblackprince
And while nominally in command of the right flank, he was just being present and observing in order to learn - Thomas de Beauchamp, Lord of Warwick, was actually commanding the flank.

Because Edward III was not a retard willing to actually give the command of a key part of his forces in a key battle to a kid who literally never commanded anything prior to that.

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>>81767754
How might they operate in an urban fantasy and/or science fiction Cold War?

>>81780918
the NSA and CIA fight over shit all the time but it's really calmed down in the last decade or so as the CIA has been forced back into proper international espionage instead of fucking around trying to root out terrorists at home and stepping on NSA/FBI toes.

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>>81767754
Run by MJ-12. You can't trust them. If someone from the CIA comes around your station asking about the Mosquito project, you're already fucked.

>>81775045
>muh reddit boogeyman
You are ill, I recommend suicide.

>>81786577
>>81790589
While true, that doesn't undercut that at age 16 Edward was considered of appropriate age to learn the bloody art of war. Though an appropriate (but also more exceptional) example is Alexander. He finished his tutelage under Aristotle by age 16, commanded the cavalry and led an instrumental breakthrough against the Sacred Band of Thebes at age 18 and at the age of 22 he scored his first victory against the Persians at the Battle of Granicus.

For a long time you were considered an adult somewhere between the age of 12 and 16, adolescence as we know it today wasn't a thing to pre-modern peoples (though they certainly understood that you weren't "fully grown" just yet, which is why the Athenians and Romans only fully conferred the rights of an adult to those who had reached the age of 20 and 25 respectively and neurologically speaking the Romans were right and picking the age of 18 today is arbitrary bullshit).

>>81794040
Alexander was always surrounded by men older and wiser than him. Tutors, generals, officers, soldiers. His first victory almost became his first defeat but he relented and followed advice of his generals.

>>81794144
True, but to be fair very few great leaders aren't surrounded by great men. You can go as far as to pin all of Justinian's achievements on his ability to surround himself with the hypercompetent, up to and including his w*fe.

>>81793704
>Giving MJ-12 shit for all the evil bullshit the spooks get up to.
Seriously, leave the lizards out of this, they've been harmless since the invention of the horror movie.

>>81790472
Depends on what you mean by highly specialized. In general, yes, it's not entirely useful to train someone to be an analyst of an area in which they don't have expertise, which necessitates specialization. If a team needs someone with knowledge of another area they then recruit that person from another team or put a call out on cross team chatter.
For example, during gulf operations during desert storm, Iraqi pilots would seemingly randomly punch out of their aircraft (eject) for no apparent reason. Those teams which were made up of persian farsi and other arabic linguists and analysts recruited from Russian linguist and analyst teams to figure out why. Analysts and Crypto linguists have to be pretty fluent in their area of knowledge, depending on what they do. But there's a lot of cross over between areas of knowledge.

>>81794413
why did these pilots randomly eject?

>>81790322
It's not that it's soul crushing in the least. It's not. If you're a good analyst, meaning skillful, insightful, and genuinely interested in what you're doing, it's highly rewarding. I never dreaded coming to work a single day. I never felt less than valued and appreciated. I always felt like I was doing a needful thing and was respected and valued by my peers. At one point I was assigned to help a Chief Master Sargent who was cross training out of his field into intelligence in the USAF and I was a lowly e-5 at the time. I worked with a bunch of GS-13s and 14's doing analyst work as well. I was even by name requested for the position I was in. So people saw your work, recognized expertise and dedication. And no, they don't do stuff like that. Here's the thing, intel work sounds glamorous and mysterious... and it's not. A lot of it is very pedestrian and even boring to most people. We joked that stuff that was considered TS was on CNN on a daily basis. The difference was, CNN doesn't have to cite sources and protect them. People hearing NSA confirm something reveals how we know something to be true. What our capabilities are. You never reveal your capabilities to your potential enemies. That's a sure fire way to have them plug holes in their information apparatus. Or if you confirm some piece of disinformation, then you reveal that you might only have one source in that area and it's a compromised one, and they can feed you incorrect data through that source.

>>81794562
Can't discuss.

>>81794783
>Can't discuss.
Why not?

>>81781702
There's a classic joke Russians tell about the KGB that you might enjoy as reapplied to the CIA:

The CIA is hiring new staff, and three applicants come in to be interviewed for positions. The first enters the interview room and the interviewer asks him only one question: What is two plus two? "Three" the applicant says at once.

"That's not quite correct," says the interviewer. "Would you care to try again?" The applicant screws up his face in deep concentration and then repeats "Three."

"No, that's still not it," says the interviewer. "Give it one more attempt." After a herculean application of thought, the applicant repeats one more time "Three." The interviewer dismisses the applicant and writes on his application "Ignorant but persistent: hired."

Then the second man is called in. Again the interviewer asks: What is two plus two? The second applicant gives it some thought and answers "three."

"That isn't quite correct," says the interviewer. "Would you care to try again?" The applicant mulls it over again, taking much longer this time. "Five," he says at last.

"No, that's still not it," the interviewer says. "Give it one more attempt." The applicant tilts his head and peers off into space, wiggling his fingers in deep cogitation. Finally he responds "Seven."

The interviewer dismisses the second man also and writes on his application "Ignorant but imaginative: hired."

Finally the third man is called in. As before the interviewer asks the same question: What is two plus two?

"Four, of course," answers the applicant. The interviewer thanks him and dismisses him at once, and writes on his application "Educated: keep under surveillance."

>>81798137
Because discussing what we know about why could reveal any numbers of things. For example, if I were to say, "we listened to the flight comms of the pilots" it would indicate that we both had broken the encryption used for their encrypted flight comms and which models of planes we had broken it for and in what generation of air craft. Which could be used to identify where they needed to upgrade. Or if I were to say that we had readings from their in flight diagnostic telemetry, that would indicate that we had broken the encryption for that, and what generations of that technology. If it was something that the pilots did, then how did we know what that was, that would indicate we have knowledge of their training and proceedures or where the flaws in that training were. There are a multitude of reasons. You have to think asymetrically, you look at what can be determined from the conclusions reached. What were the pilots in the planes doing at the time, what variety of air craft were in use. Were they current generation planes or old? For example if they were mig-29' or Su-27's and they were lawn darting into the desert floor for some reason, that's some big fucking price tags there, and if it's happening there, could that behavior be able to be repeated by making pilots of other nations do something similar? Is it a design flaw in the aircraft that your opponents don't know about and you just happen to discover? Would you want to give up that advantage in non wartime when you could use it to your nation's advantage later? Could also be that this is all a load of horse shit and I'm making it up (I'm not) to create disinformation. There are lots of reasons that don't occur to a civilian for a reason... because you're not trained to.

>>81801961
Just for context, let me give you a taste of the training for a military crypto for first hand experience. Most of the civillian hires come from military background. So a crypto is a good example. So you take your ASVAB (armed service vocational aptitude battery) you must score top 2%, From that you then take a test called the DLAB (defense language aptitude battery) from which you must score in the top 5-10% nationally. That qualifies you for DLI (defense language institute) Now, everyone that gets in there must of course complete boot, and you must pass a background check that takes literally 6 months to a year to complete. Meanwhile you're taking DLI language classes which are 8 hours a day, 5 days a week with about 4 hours of sleep a day and massive homework. It's fucking brutal. It lasts 48 weeks for Russian by way of example. 56 weeks for persian farsi plus additional time for a dialect. By way of example of intensity, you cover the entire curriculum of a 4 year BA degree in that target language in your first 14-18 weeks.The "rockout" (failure) rate at DLI when I was in, was right around 70-80% Meaning out of a class of 10 people 2-3 would graduate. Everyone in those classes are very smart people in general, all looking for adventure. Everyone is highly motivated. And still 80% fail. Once you get through that, you then go to intel training at another set of duty posts, that usually lasts 20-33 more weeks. again 8 hours a day plus lots of homework. Then you get your first duty station and you START to learn how to apply some of what you've learnt, and have to play catch up to actually get more training and more instruction 1 on 1 with senior cryptos and analysts that have been doing their jobs for years. And then you're an apprentice. It takes a minimum of a year on the job before you're halfway good unless you're a massive prodigy among prodigies. It's a very very very competitive and nose to the grindstone job. But you get to do and see cool shit.

>>81767972
this

>>81802152
Now, from those people that complete all that. NSA will then try to recruit you to fill jobs for analysts, linguists, code breakers, etc. CIA and their lot, they hit up law enforcement, NSA's rejects (it's a serious no no to poach on rival agencies turf) college campuses, etc. So they get a very different set of people. NSA's people are generally more structured and orderly, more military. CIA are more.... eclectic.

>>81786674
No, this is why I play Edward the Black Prince, always

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>>81775045
>I dislike something that is popular but also it is popular to hate on insuring that I will be le hecking epic le rebel but also I won't have to worry about not fitting into the hivemind.
The gall to call something reddit while being yourself reddit incarnate.

I'm always torn on whether or not my government paranormal control agency should use magic. Letting them use it almost makes them feel like another group of cultists, but also there's something appealing about the idea that the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a magic wand is a good guy with a magic wand.

>>81802642
They employ magitek gadgets, but hire subcontractors for any spells or large-scale rituals.
That way they don't put any of their own people at risk and can more easily keep tabs on "sanctioned" mages.

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>>81767754
Does anyone have any good resources on the projects the CIA did with ESP during the Cold War?

>>81802796
Like most CIA projects not related to cocaine, there was a loooooot of LSD involved. Dump trucks full to the brim with it constantly in and out of Langley.

>>81767754
Remember always kill spooks

>>81789587
So you're clinging to twenty year old terminology because that's what your instructor told you? Though I strongly doubt he taught you to specifically refer to the country that way, and instead you're just mimicking his choice of words. Even then, his word on the terminology is suspect because, as you say, he was a captain in the Black Sea fleet. As far as I am aware, the only 'Black Sea fleet' is a Russian naval organization, and a Russian military organization would, it seems a reasonable assumption, use the Russian language. All in all seems a highly questionable choice to use the Russian way of referring to a country that isn't Russia, when you aren't in the context of Russians talking about said country.

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>>81774416
Any more art of (busty) military officer girls with glasses and their hair up? Preferably blondes. Need for reasons.

>>81769608
underrated movie, one of my favorite 'found footage' films

>>81802642
Cult is a political term to marginalize those outside of power, so G-Man mages would be kosher.

>>81802284
On all levels except physical you're Edward the Black Prince?

>>81767754
Well, first of all, they all glow in the dark.
Second, they're all niggers.

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>>81803925
Even if a G-Man religion was officially sanctioned, I would still expect it to be a cult in the technical sense of having successive mysteries into which practitioners must be initiated, rather than being open in structure and doctrine.

>>81804276
I would assume the actual CIA is already like that with many nested spheres getting more arcane the closer you get to the center.

>>81804295
Yeah, exactly--that's why I think it's the perfect fit. With the addition of the supernatural, your security clearance and your initiation into the mysteries of your cult go hand in hand.

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>>81767754
They glow in the dark.

>>81803534
Question:Are you Ukrainian? He was, and back then it wasn't Russia, the whole thing was the Union of soviet socialist republics. He was born and raised in the Ukraine, and insisted we call it the Ukraine. I'm curious, why are you getting so worked up? Are you autistic and is it triggering you? Do you get similarly triggered when someone says The United States of America, or The virgin Islands, or The Gold Coast,or The Congo or the Hawaiian Islands or The canary Islands? If so, I'm sorry for triggering your autism anon, but some people seem to prefer to use specific naming conventions and I'm simply show my deep respect I still have for him by referring to it the way he taught me to. Do you have some sort of aversion to me showing him respect, anon? Do you have some sort of deficiency in your basic character that renders you incapable of civility?

>>81767754
Grey souled bearucrats who are frequently comically incompetent, punctuated by acts of self righteous cruelty.

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>>81804760
>Are you Ukrainian?
Yes
>back then it wasn't Russia, the whole thing was the Union of soviet socialist republics.
That, certainly, is my mistake. I think my point still stands, despite it.
>he insisted we call it the Ukraine
I'll accept correction on that assumption.
>I'm curious, why are you getting so worked up?
You're reading too much into it.
>Are you autistic
pic related
>some people seem to prefer to use specific naming conventions
Yes, they do. And they prefer Ukraine without the article.
>Do you have some sort of aversion to me showing him respect, anon?
I have an aversion to supposed intelligence community, or adjacent, people using outdated terms because it calls into question their ability to incorporate new knowledge and question previously held assumptions. I have an aversion to blindly following what a teacher tells me in the face of more recent information, regardless of personal respect.

You should interrogate your assumptions more often.

>>81805011
>acting all condescending while cherry picking from one of the most interesting contribution to the board i've seen in months
nice autism anon

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>>81802152
hey, NSA anon, if you don't mind me asking, what's your personal outlook on today's geopolitics?
what did you think about this whole Russian hackers election thingy for instance?
what do you think about the ongoing trend in wealth distribution?
and more importantly: what kind of traditional games do you play?

>>81767754
Looking kind of dumb, with a finger and a thumb in the shape of a hook on their belt loops.YDX4N

>>81790538
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>>81793610
cute

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>>81787564
Source?

>>81767972
this

>>81787376
based
cia is only made by tranny and jews

good books about spies?
>Three Days of The Condor
>The Spy Who Came In From The Cold
what else?
sci-fi is also ok

>>81767754
Cartoonishly Evil

>>81787376
Except rpk 16 is a spec ops grade t-doll with a female type chassis.....?

>>81806319
>what's your personal outlook on today's geopolitics?
Geopolitically, that we're in a shitstorm and there is noone of any competence of morality at the helm.
I'm also embarrased and disgusted as hell at the current state of the NSA, CIA and FBI. They're fucking infested by political cronies that should be taken out and put in front of a firing squad and that they should be replaced by people who have since retired to retrain and re staff the entire apparatus with competent people that know what the job is about.
Let me relate why I feel this way and you should be able to draw a reasonable idea of why I say this.
When I was new to my position I was in the USAF still and stationed at RAF Chicksands in the UK and doing RC collection missions out of RAF Mildenhall. Some of the time, while spinning the dial at our racks we'd pick up comms from civilian sector including phone calls. Some were pretty hillarious, and some might involve, let's say... the trafficing of illicit substances. Now tips about such things might have found their way into the hands of the US coast guard (how do you think that they just happen to board a ship in the middle of nowhere and just happen to find drugs? I wonder) Anyway, one of the things I found out was that if we intercept and determine that one of the people on the other end is a US citizen, we shut that shit down right there, recordings stop spinning (we used tape then yes) and we package up that tape, notify oncall duty officer of the intercept, the times, and turn over all tapes, other recordings, notes, etc. and destroy them. No exceptions. Being the curious sort I asked "why?" I found out. The senior agent told me, "Because that's violationg that citizens civil and constitutional rights. We do not record or monitor us citizens on native soil" I responded, "yeah, but we're not on native soil, we're in the UK, and they were at sea or something" He got fucking cold as ice (cont)

>>81810007
I still remember this clear as day because of how passionate the guy was. "Son, we're here to defend the Constitution and the rights of the people of the United States. We don't fucking cut corners or infringe the rights of the people we're sworn to protect or the constitution we swore to uphold. So when we determine we're intercepting a US citizen we assume they're on us soil and stop recording and destroy it. You've been entrusted with a lot of power by our country. Do not abuse that trust." Now compare that guy, to the fuckheads we have running the show now. Now imagine how fucking embarrased I am by the behavior of the NSA following Snowden's escapades. Snowden's actions shouldn't have been seen as a "betrayal by one of our own" it should have been a fucking clarion wake up call to the entire NSA that they'd go so far away from doing what we were entrusted to do that it's not even funny. So yeah, I'd say take the current crop of people there, line them up, and end them.. and beg people from 20 years ago to come back and train up a new batch of people to do the job properly. That's my 100% honest take on the state of the NSA, CIA, and FBI. Purge the lot and rework from the ground up. The FBI and NSA especially. They're dangerous as they are now.

>>81810007
Well, that took a lot more serious and dark turn than I expected.

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In a modern game I'm in they are literally spooks. All ghosts.

>>81787622
For you

>>81806246
>>acting all condescending while cherry picking from one of the most interesting contribution to the board i've seen in months
Well, so long as someone found it interesting. Most people hear you say "worked for NSA as an analyst" and they go "Sha! right, jack ryan, fuck off" And don't realize that actual people do work at this stuff. I ultimately decided to quit it and go back to school and complete my engineering degree, but it's a bunch of memories I'll treasure still

>>81767754
A quiet intelligence agency with fingers in all sorts of pies and possesses aburdly advanced technology along with supernatural capabilities.

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>>81810111
They make recruits swear an oath to the Constitution and not Congress for a reason. Props to you and your team. I wish more people remembered that.

>>81781064
>When I was in that field the DHS didn't exist yet.

Jesus grandpa how old are you?

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>>81768850
>Patriots

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>>81787105
The glowies are always present on 4chan and always have been. Moot even said at one point he had to talk to the FBI every week about the shit that gets posted around here, and that was back when /tg/ was a trial board.

>>81810111
They've been dangerous for a long time.
Espionage is a dirty business, always has been, always will be, but during the Cold War the moral brakes completely came off the US intelligence services. MKULTRA's kind of the prototypical bit of Cold War malpractice that's just kind of been accepted, but it always has to be reiterated that the CIA kidnapped people, *US citizens*, and dosed them with hallucinogens more or less to see what would happen. This is something we know they did. They probably did worse things to foreigners that we're not aware of.

Spooks have their own interests at heart, first and foremost. Sometimes those interests will align with yours, sometimes they won't, and the rules are more like guidelines for them. Sometimes breaking the rules is necessary, sometimes it isn't, but they'll never let people outside the system know. That's the truth and it's always how I'll portray secret services in my worlds.

Is it true that they are losing assets/personnel left and right abroad?

>>81809770
The Laundry books are pulpish cosmic horror spy stories. Don't reinvent the wheel but they're fun

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>>81817446
What makes them so fun? Also, which is the best book and why?

>>81806246
I'm allowed to be condescending when I'm right. Not that I was trying to be condescending at all, but hey, autism.

>>81815505
Its very interesting, I hope this thread stays up for more.

>>81779858
>dumbass coastie thinking rural living is not the American ideal

>>81818614
It's not.

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>>81806319
>Russian hackers
>no comment
>wealth distribution
>no comment
>traditional games
>no comment
hmmm

as the criminally incompetent morons they are

>>81819881
Mirror mirror on the wall who is the highest paid clown of them all?

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all cia niggers must die

>>81819825
>space around your home to do with as you please
>not living stacked like firewood and having to constantly adjust your behavior because you share common walls, floors, and ceilings with other homes
>people not always up in your business
>people respect private property
>laws don't restrict what animals you own, only how much land you need for livestock
>SHALL NOT is respected
>cops not driven to the edge by dealing with city scum every day
>tl;dr live free the way you like, not the way you have to because you're packed in like sardines
Sorry friend, but it very much is.

>>81819872

He answered above though.

>>81774368
I'm pretty sure whoever has control of the ATF Facebook account is doing his damned best to make them look as bad as possible while maintaining plausible deniability.

Shit like making sure to post on dog appreciation day, celebrating their great victory on the anniversary of ruby ridge.

>>81775882
wait, zun wrote that? Neat.

>>81775045
ignore the faggot redditors
baalbuddy is a nigger retard who has been drawing the same tired old joke he stole for years and his porn is mediocre

>>81774563
holy reddit

>>81822513
But reddit-kun, you are the redditors seething and crying because saw other people doing so. Nobody but a redditor could be obsessed about a comic artist they don't like.

>>81767754
My PC had contact with a CIA agent, an FBI agent, and a NSA agent.

The CIA agent was the loose cannon with looser morals. He was useful when I needed things blown up, or a live tiger delivered somewhere on short notice.
The FBI agent was a joke character, a boomer misusing what was then modern internet slang. I don't remember if he did anything in the whole campaign.
The NSA agent was a weaboo, but he was generally useful as an informant.

Being NERV's OD was a good job.

>>81820922
Sorry could you repeat that, it's hard to hear you over your neighbor's meth lab blowing up.

>>81767972
this

>>81822341
no?

>>81825096
>space around your home to do with as you please
>not living stacked like firewood and having to constantly adjust your behavior because you share common walls, floors, and ceilings with other homes
>people not always up in your business
>people respect private property
>laws don't restrict what animals you own, only how much land you need for livestock
>SHALL NOT is respected
>cops not driven to the edge by dealing with city scum every day
>tl;dr live free the way you like, not the way you have to because you're packed in like sardines
Here, pardner

>>81825096
not him but my first neighbor is half a mile away from my house so he can blow up whatever he goddamn pleases for all i care, no shit given
also nobody needs a meth lab over here, we have moonshine
and we don't need the DHS to notice any fucker we don't know *real* quick

>>81767972
This.

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>>81803848
Sorry, I think I only have Lady Une pics.

>>81819872
That's because I don't have a lot of time to post.
Russian hackers- complete and utter bullshit. They had no effect on the election. Anyone that thinks they did are fucking idiots. Also it was purely to disrupt the election, it did nothing and only gave pussy libs something to whine and cry about. (like they need anything) Trump did not try to get the russians to help him, they just thought it was funny to fuck with people.

Wealth redistribution: the whole idea is anti american. That said, CEOs using their power to affect elections and try social engineering should have people go to their houses, and shoot them in the head. Seriously. Zuckerberg, I think he needs to be capped 5 times in the frontal lobe. Likeways jack on twitter. Likewise google.

If we want to clean up this nation we need to do some very specific things. Reinstate glass-steagel, outlaw news for profit (goodbye cnn, goodbye fox) News was historically in the us was required of all stations wanting a license. They had to set aside x hours per day to report the news and it had to be unbiased. If you outlaw news for entertainment and require all stations to provide news as a loss leader the quality of news reporting and trust in the news would skyrocket.

Trad games: D&D, AD&D, Thieves Guild, Arduin, Runequest, Bureau13, CoC, Silent Death, Microarmor, Epic 40k (2e), renegade legion, Star Trek (fasa) Star Fleet battles. Axis and Allies Just off the top of my head

>>81806319
>what do you think about the ongoing trend in wealth distribution?
The only thing I can think off that you might be talking about with this is people trying to get companies and CEO's to pay their fair share. Is that what you mean?

black suit and sunglasses(no matter what time of day it is), unless they're undercover, then it's hoodie, baseball cap, holding a latte, tshirt&jeans

they're either bumbling idiots or hyper competent main bad guy

>>81807478
Fuck, kill, marry.

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>>81806504
Jarvy is fine relic from a more civilized age.

>>81767754
A distraction from the single most powerful agency in the United States: NASA

>>81825927
Sorry, what was that? The Quarry they're turning your town into makes a LOT of noise.

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>>81767754
>How do you portray the CIA in your games?
i make every villain an invisible goblin homosexual that collapses orcish governments and then invites the orcs to live in the elvish treetowns and arrests any elves that complain.

>>81774014
thing is that they hate Americans much more than they hate each other

>>81806319
Not the specific NSAnon, but..
Geopolitics: We're in a sticky situation. I expect a skirmish of some kind with China in the near future. Best case scenario, you won't hear about it for years. Worst case scenario, you won't hear about it or anything else ever again.
Russian hackers: Officially, they didn't successfully fuck with elections. They didn't need to, they ran an op just to fuck with our heads. Even if they did succeed, nobody outside the specific NSA team tasked to deal with it would know, and again, they didn't need to succeed, they just needed to stir the pot.
Wealth redistribution: You mean wealth concentration, because the real money is going to corporations and their cronies. If you think the government is going to fuck over corporations in any meaningful way, or that internet regulations are going to hurt Facebook, I have a bridge to sell you. The real problem is the squeeze on our dwindling middle class which has already taken a massive beating due to Covid. The people who don't pay taxes will continue to not give a fuck as their rights are silently engulfed by Wal-Mart and they get their handouts.
Games I like: Pendragon, Mutants and Masterminds, Cortex Plus.
Also: The NSA has huge restrictions on what can and can't be kept when recorded, but obviously it's possible someone unscrupulous can either break the rules or find a dubiously applicable exception if they want. Law-fu is not a new skill, and people in government positions tend to be very good at it when they want to be.

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>>81767754
What's the best depictions of the CIA in fiction?

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>>81768664
based

>>81767754
Big guys

>>81833471
aiden gillen

>>81828733
>I don't have a lot of time to post.
thank you again for your informative answers then
>wealth redistribution is anti-american
>shooting people in the head isn't
well, that was informative
>reinstate Glass Steagall
>outlaw news for profit
based fucking commie
>trad games
impressive ngl

>>81829160
>people trying to get companies and CEO's to pay their fair share
companies and CEO's fair share?
or people's fair share?
not sure what you mean here

>>81830908
>China
well the way I see it, everybody in the US is mostly fine with sucking billionaire's cocks and taking it in the the ass from bankers up until the point where said billionaires and bankers become Chinese, where all of sudden nobody's talking about the 'invisible hand' anymore, or how the wealth will 'trickle down'
right now from the outside it mostly looks like a big unregulated weapon factory run by a few cronies
you used to be so cool America what happened?

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>>81767754
>Fallout game
I had a group of pre-war feds operatives that were hit by bombs during a job turn into ghouls while doing some research about a chinese spy on american ground. Yes, one of them was a glowing one because of the terry joke.

>>81773994
"their people" ≠ burgers

>>81809202
Shishunki na (no?) Adam

>>81768850
>Patriots

The La-li-lu-le-lo?!

>>81768862
underrated

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>>81789587
"W Kraine" in polish, where the name comes from, already means "the borderland"

>>81838853
>companies and CEO's fair share?
This one. Apparently Bezos has payed essentially nothing in taxes for several years in a row, according to people I know.

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>>81847385
Doesn't take a forensic accountant with no accountability and access to every bank statement ever typed on a computer to figure that one out, everyone knows that corporations and the extremely wealthy are tax neutral at best, and receive refunds in excess of whatever paltry sum they might have accidentally paid the rest of the time.

>>81833471
Nothing that makes them look too competent.

These are the same people that sold the western world on Iraq-WMD.

Otherwise, I think the best description of CIA agents is people without morals willing to do terrible things for even a tiny perceived benefit to national security. Also, factionalism and LARGE amounts of compartmentalization cells with 1-2 agents running a bunch of local nationals who do all the ACTUAL spying, flipping them destroying their lives and killing them at the drop of the hat.

There are no 'good guys' when it comes to intelligence. Only people acting in the interest of their nation and sometimes themselves, regardless of the morality of it.

>>81844444
4 you

As the American branch of the KGB.

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>>81779665
reddit

>>81844444
Wasted good numbers

>>81767972
That

>>81849762
yeah, but it's a small price to pay for having these guys fucking up the planet beyond recognition

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>>81849977
i'm 100% with you
the scary thing is that we have now private entities and individual people becoming more powerful than nations
of course these successful people are all power hungry sociopaths of some sort otherwise they wouldn't have been successful in the first place
sometimes i really wish the bad guys would just be dragons and liches desu
/rant

>>81849977
>the western world
America. Remember how Americans hate the French to this very day for questioning this narrative (but the Germans somehow got away unpunished)?

>>81767754
Same as the church. They are the good guys, but they ultimately serve their own agenda.

>>81849977
> These are the same people that sold the western world on Iraq-WMD.
Yeah, after being *ordered to*. Your boss tells you to go find evidence for Bigfoot and won’t take “he doesn’t exist” for an answer, you’re gonna find some Bigfoot tracks and poop and hair.

>>81774456
The character is aware she is in an anime, and if the death isn't shown on screen, he'll live and come back despite all odds.

>that glowie trying to convince us that they're the good guys
Should we trust him?

>>81856901
Ask yourself, what would St. Terry do?

>>81781625
That’s because you don’t know how actual native English speakers talk. If I walked into a room with a bunch of Spanish speakers and spoke super formal grammatically correct Spanish they’re going to laugh at me.

>>81856984
Drive him over with a car?

>>81856901
He doesn't? He portrays a different kind of asshole.

>>81838982
America was always a warmongering shithole that for some period of time warmongered against the bad guys and thus earned some goodwill.
From the very beginning it had problem with rich fucks trying to fuck over the average man the every way they could.

>>81857323
>From the very beginning it had problem with rich fucks trying to fuck over the average man the every way they could.
It's surprising how few Americans know that the Federalist Papers has a chapter dedicated to limiting democracy, and how suffrage was limited to about 5% of the population (male landowners) until the first president that wasn't part of the Founding Father clique expanded franchise to all white, European men. One of many reasons why Andrew Jackson was incredibly based (though to his credit Jefferson tried to expand suffrage to all taxpaying men and men who were part of the militia, because he may have been the only one who took "no taxation without representation" seriously).

That Princeton study that demonstrated the modern US isn't a democracy but a plutocracy? That's exactly what the founding fathers would've wanted.

>>81853323
freedom fries lol

>>81856110
nice 'intelligence' you have there

>>81857001
>If I walked into a room with a bunch of Spanish speakers and spoke super formal grammatically correct Spanish they’re going to laugh at me.
>implying you'd be able to do that
>implying they wouldn't be impressed
>looking for excuses for not being able to speak your own fucking goddamn language properly
also, 'should of' is retarded however you look at it

>>81858381
What makes it funnier is that the last time the Americans pulled this kind of thing is when they renamed sauerkraut "liberty cabbages" and the German shepherd the "Alsatian Wolfhound". This was in the context of the world wars. So France's refusal to join a war of aggression against a regime the Americans propped up themselves is in the eyes of the American populace comparable to declaring war against all your neighbors at once and sinking a ship with American passengers on board.

You can't make this shit up.

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>This shitfest survived for almost a week
The state of current /tg/

>>81833471
The one where bumpfags are kidnapped and disappear forever

>>81849977
>There are no 'good guys' when it comes to intelligence
There are always data-crunchers, you know. The people who often don't even know what sort of data they are crunching, just doing it. Essentially a whole division of accountants that process numbers, context-less.
And that's roughly third of manpower of any intelligence agency.

>>81817863
The best thing Stross ever wrote was The Missile Gap, but it's NOT part of the Laundry Files, more of a really weird techno-thriller.

>>81793364
And this is the moment where this thread hit full-on life support mode.

>>81858777
>>81858823
nice complaining, guys
/tg/ is a slow board
nothing wrong with people clinging to the occasionnal semi-decent conversation while waiting for hypothetic new contribution from previous posters
much better than high-speed shit-flinging or cancer general #7698659
also, reported for low quality posts
just so you know

>>81858777
The irony here is that this thread is full of good old/tg/ style discussion and you are the exact cancer responsible for the shitshow that is nu/tg/.
>nooo stop talking about this
>stooooooop
>I don't want talk about the subject of this thread I cose to ooooooopen
>where's the downvote button?

>>81856984
oh what would St. Terry do if where here right now?!

>>81858314
The Founders were rightly wary of Democracy, and provide ample examples of why it was a terrible idea. Among other things it just doesn't bloody scale.