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I've been on this site 18 years coming november. A lot of things changed. It was never good, but it was never this political. I wish we could go back to those times.

Ask me anything if you want, but I'd rather people posted their own memories. You know, the good ones. Flash animations, loituma starting here, long cats, US tourist stealing skulls from French catacombs. Pool closures. Positive stuff.
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>>81540805
I went to /b/ for the porn but stayed for the games on /tg/. Let's see... 15 years for me now.

Best times where the drawthreads, early quests, rape factory and weird games like VeloCity and Engine Heart and Blam! and Dungeons the Dragoning.
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>>81540805

/tg/ was important for me just about when I was starting college, and getting into the whole /tg/ thing. It was fun seeing all the creativity - and it was nice that people were able to recognize the obvious bait pre-election tourist swarm.

The worst part for me is those tourists then denying things were better.
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I wish I came during the good times. But I thrive to make good shit in here.
I love you guys.
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Cheers, /tg/! To all the good shit floating in amongst the bad!
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Been here about 14 years since I was 15, I love you bastards /tg/ and /cm/ will always be my home away from home
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>>81540805
shut up boomer shouldn't you be in a fucking retirement home?
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>>81541876
>/tg/ and /cm/
unfathomably based
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Been here about 8-9 years I think. Came here for 40k stuff and kind of just stayed around. Had a lot of fun helping a color-blind guy learn to paint better by using photoshop to better show contrast in colors
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>>81540805
I miss that fat fucking alligator Orsen that used to post here.
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I first showed up sometime in high school, around 2010-2012ish. Don't remember the exact year but I do remember it was the shiggy diggy era. I was posting on /v/, though, and after a few years I realized how garbage it was and left. I started playing Pathfinder and M:TG in college and at some point went, "hey, 4chan had a board for this stuff, right? I'll check that out."
I regret the time I wasted on /v/, but even with the drop in board quality, I don't regret my time on /tg/. From the long brainstorming sessions, to the stupid memes, to the late night off topic discussions, y'all are the best. Don't even need the other boards.
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>>81540805
>Nov 2004 was almost 17 years ago
>Kinda want to die
I met my wife on /d/ tho so I guess it ain't all bad
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>>81541969
No one is impressed with your bravado. Just go to one of the other threads you'll enjoy and enjoy your day a little more.
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Been here since 2004.
Still here pretty much just for a couple of generals, though with how /hwg/ has gone to shit it's not even the ones I thought I'd still be here for.

Still, am glad /hwg/ (in theory more than practice) and /awg/ continue to exist to remind people there's loads of wargames out there not made by GW that they might enjoy. That's never got old; getting people to games they didn't even know they wanted/existed. Spreading a tiny bit of joy of enjoying miniatures and games here and there in the dirty crack of the interbutt (still fucking miles better than TMP though).

As an aside I am genuinely impressed how /btg/ continues at a reasonable despite everything that's happened to Battletech over the years. Any other game that had even a fraction of the stuff that happened to Battletech in terms of horrific mismanagement, massive (for it's size) embezzlement, death of the original creator company and so on, anything else would be dead many times over left to be a fondly remembered thing by fatbeard grognards. And a scary amount of that is because /btg/ is one of the largest most active online Battletech communities. Buried here on a Mongolian shrimp knitting forum.
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>>81540805
I've only been here for 14 but I don't give a fuck about politics. The whole internet changed. 4chan is worse now because of it's colossal diverse population just like the rest of the internet not because of any opinion or stance held by users.

I was here when Gygax died. /tg/ must have been pretty new but it wasn't new.
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>>81542890
Is there a tldr anywhere about this Battetech drama.
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>>81540805
I dont even fucking remember when I started coming here. Giantess threads were still a thing then.

I miss the jokes, the discussions that would go wildly off-topic but still be interesting. That used to be common as chips, a discussion starting about proper terrain placement and ending with a discussion about the implications of political dragon marriage. Now it seems like you cant go 10 posts without some idiot popping on to scream about how much they hate 'thing' for no reason.

>>81541969
Speak of the devil. Kindly fuck off.

Came for the DND. Lived through multiple invasions, /tg/ dating /x/, the banishment of quest threads...man its been a trip.

As shit as this site is, I think we are still averaging more good than bad here. Hopefully we see better times around the corner.
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>>81541982
Love you too fellow gay fa/tg/uy
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>>81540805
Have some boobs.
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>>81540805
I remember I first stumbled onto /tg/ through the D&D wiki when I was fourteen, back in late-2015. I only caught a glimpse before the election tourism and I was too young then to understand the full value of what I was looking at. It hurts man.
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>>81540805
Realised it existed around 2009-2010, but didn't go here regularly until about 2014. Thing has gone downhill since then, but there is still quality here, and it gives me that warm fuzzy feeling whenever I see it.
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Found 4chan in junior high 2011. Only came to /tg/ in 2016.
Sometimes it feels like, as in all things in my life, I arrive too late to experience the glory days. All I get is to wriggle fecklessly with the other worms in the corpse of something that used to be great. But there is still good shit to be found here, and damn it I'm gonna be here for it!
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>>81540805
I remember the Fecht Room from 2014. It feels like it was just yesterday.
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>>81540805
how was /l/ ?
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>>81541969
Why are you like this?
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>>81545454
Nice digits.
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>>81545501
thanks, though I had better
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>>81541969
It's sad that this type of person is getting told off. If people were more cruel to Republicanposters then maybe this site could have been saved.

Oh well. Ban anonymity and regulate the internet. faggots like you all don't deserve to hide.
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Stop giving the shitposter (You)s.
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It's my birthday in 6 hours and I have to go in for a thirteen hour shift in an hour. Happy birthday to me
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>>81541620
fellow midfag here. I used to read ED every day and when the Habbo raid happened I discovered 4chan. And yeah, I used it for porn too. It was so nice, by the time my parents got home to check the internet history, it was all just dead links to .jpgs
Wonderful
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The decline of /tg/ is peanuts next to the decline of /lit/
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>>81540805
every time i tell someone shit use to be a lot less political i feel like they dont believe me
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>>81540805
I've been here since I was fucking twelve, (I'm almost 19 now jannies). Came because I was attracted by le ebin raids and stayed because I stumbled onto /tg/ and thought it was the shit.
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>>81546176
People frame the past through the lens of the present. Someone poisoned by politics isn't going to believe you, because they've already reframed their past memories through that lens too. It's depressing, but it is what it is.
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>>81545432
What was that?
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My favorites were Crab Truckers, Car Lesbians, and Busty Barbarian Bimbos
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>>81540805
been here for 11 of those. TG A and GIF have been great.
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>>81546244
It was a room for making Song of Swords characters and fighting with anons back when it was just a pile of modified Riddle of Steel word documents.
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Thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e37Ri_5xY5U
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>>81540805
Started coming to this place regularly around 2017.
Even if the wonder years were already gone by that time, I've got three great groups from this board.
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>>81542976
CGL's financial and court records, I imagine.
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>>81546100
Nothing could be worse than what’s happened to /co/
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>>81546235
politics hasn't just fucked up 4chan (although the difference is more staggering since it happened in a wave of tourists and phoneposting), it's everywhere and everything
anyone who says "everything is political" regardless of what they believe is to be slapped and kicked out of your home and groups if possible
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>>81540805
I came to /tg/ for Thri-Kreen erotica and stayed for official playable Thri-Kreen in 5e, which has not yet happened or even been implied to be happening at any point.
>>81542555
>the shiggy diggy era
This was the best era for me. It was also the last good era, period.
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So what comes next? Sure shit is bad but an animal has to die sometime before mushrooms can bloom.
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>>81547489
2^3chan would've been nice, but not enough people moved over, the nicheness allowed undesireables to flourish which scared off people more leading to a feedback loop of no one goes there because there aren't enough people to maintain conversation so no one goes there
no to mention when they nuked the zoophilia board those subhumans backwashed over to our /an/ shitting the place up along with literal schizos, I miss comfy /an/
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>>81547433

Everything is political, that doesn't mean we have to argue about politics everywhere. The internet I remember would have a separate forum for hotbutton issues and off-topic banter, and you'd go there if you wanted to talk about politics, and if you didn't then a mod would politely tell you to shut the fuck up. And the people who couldn't handle those rules got banned. That was the difference, the people who couldn't keep their shit together got filtered out, leaving healthy communities full of people who could discuss many and varied topics without getting triggered and firing off political rants at each other. Obviously early /tg/ didn't have that kind of moderation, but it didn't really need it, and I'll spend the rest of my life thinking about why. The short version is that the people who were drawn to 4chan before 2010 were just different from the people who increasingly started using it after, but I got here in 2006, and obviously people on 4chan were obviously saying the same thing way back then. It's like 4chan's history is a repeating cycle of weirdoes building their identity around their in-jokes, then getting ruined by huge flood of normies, then re-normalizing into a new in-group identity with new in-jokes before getting ruined by an even huger flood of even-normier-normies. Which is basically what happened to the rest of the internet. Damn I need a drink.

I still blame post-2015 straight white male identity warriors for most of the current damage. I don't hate these people, but the agenda they're pushing is utterly antithetical to the spirit of old 4chan, and they are utterly shameless about pushing that agenda. But of course I can't ever say that without contributing to the problem.

Someone please post happy skeletons.
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>>81541969
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>>81547489
I don't think 4chan is near death. It will die when either traffic dies down to a trickle, Hiroshimoot decides he doesn't want to play for servers anymore, or some BIG drama explodes (honestly, I can't think of an event that would kill it. It would just throw water on the grease fire).
>what comes next?
My guess is that the era of internet tribalism may be coming to a close. I don't think we're close to some sort of website singularity or monopoly or something, but the crosspolinization between 4chan, reddit, twitter, and all the others is growing to the point that the differences may not matter.
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>>81540805
Been here since...shit, I wanna say maybe 2009? Bit further back?

I look back and I weep for what's lost. We've gotten a handful of good things in the interim but we've lost so much.
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>>81547579
Kind of sad that it feels like we sucked all the joy and spontaneity out of online communities in about 20 years. Every new platform turns to shit quicker than the previous one. But as a way to supplement real life, rather than replace it, same-interest niche communities like /tg/ can still be fun. I'm thinking of getting tropical fish, seem like there are some comfy online communities there too.
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>>81540805
The innocent days of longcats and demotivationals. A well endowed woman cutting off her top with a pair of scissors but you never got to see the end. Jailbait jokes that were actually jokes and not disguised pedophilia. Those were good times indeed.
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>>81547539
I thought I was going crazy seeing /an/ get progressively hornier over the years I had no idea that was a factor
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>>81545603
>Ban anonymity
How about you fuck off with him?
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>>81540805
Been here for 14 years, came for Project Chanology back in 08, stayed for the memes and shit posting.
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I came on in 2010, even though it's relative newfaggory I still have most of my >ISHYGDDT images. Mostly on /mu/ at that time. Tool memes, fake Radiohead song, Death Grips ARG. Generals threads suck so bad compared to what boards were like before them.
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>>81547706
I have no direct proof fo course, but there is a definite corellation
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>>81540805
Coincidentally had this thought remembering an on old meme the other day (10 year old kid rickrolled me). So many people don't know how big a role 4chan played in spreading and creating memes. I've been here about 15 years since 2006 in highschool at the time, back then I mostly browsed /b/ and /k/. Stayed for size content on /d/ (there's good stuff on /aco/ too though) and /gif/ for YLYL. Back then I'm sure I remember there were times there wasn't a single tranny thread on /gif/.
Finally some years ago browsed on /tg/ out of boredom which was weird in retrospect having played GURPS and other systems and never coming here. Glad I discovered this place for myself 7 or so years ago which is now the mainstay of where I spend my 4chan time. You folk have introduced me to a lot of systems and I've used that to introduce other systems to people: Exalted, Genesys/FFG's SWRPG. DnD play goes without saying and the large variety of topics I'm interested in.
>I love all yawl, and while I've never started one, I do apologize for posting in goblin coombait threads.
>>81543001
I missed a time with giantess threads?!
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>>81548034
>Back then I'm sure I remember there were times there wasn't a single tranny thread on /gif/

Really? That's interesting.
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>>81547706
I think that's just the progression of the internet in general as well. It's fashionable to be shameless about your fetishes now, especially in like company.
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>>81548131
>shameless about your fetishes
there's being more open about liking thick girls or hentai, then there's bestiality
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>>81548145
I agree, but I don't think they do.
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>>81543001
>I miss the jokes, the discussions that would go wildly off-topic but still be interesting. That used to be common as chips, a discussion starting about proper terrain placement and ending with a discussion about the implications of political dragon marriage.

Fucking this. Trolling old /b/ was like pissing in an ocean of piss, but old /tg/ was enlightened beyond even that, they would spin your piss into gold like some kind of benevolent wizzard.

At the same time it was weirdly fragile, like I remember how much assmad Jim Profit caused (I can't even remember what year that was), moot personally came over and apologized after he got banned. Now I feel like we're playing in the late game where the level 1 boss is now the common mob enemy. People like him are normal and they think that /tg/ was always theirs.
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>>81548034
>Stayed for size content on /d/ (there's good stuff on /aco/ too though)
I've come to appreciate mini-giantess above all else
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>>81540805
I started writing my RPG because I wanted to be part of a tradition of /tg/ creating things that were fun to play, or at least interesting.

While progress on it has continued decently, at this point I feel like even having the final product associated with /tg/ would bring it down.
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>>81548176
my brother
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I missed so many opportunities with games that I would've enjoyed b/c /co/ and /tv/ had a much more passive threshold of entry. I got some legit oop stuff, but stayed long enough to see them become /Marvel Studio/. Making up for lost time.
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>>81540805
Came here in mid 2013 for le ebic 1d4chan memes, then found out about 90% of all threads were quest related. Participated in a few of those till I got sick of them dying, migrated to other boards. Now I only occasionally brows here, more so recently since I started playing Kill Team and Infinity.

I feel fucking ancient.
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>>81548174

I remember when we spun the anontalk spam into an AI looking to learn humanity from humans. I only remember bits and pieces, snippets of memories now, like Doomrider visiting /tg/ to spread holiday cheer, DC 80 [sic] escape artist check to crawl up someone's anus, Iron Heart Surge causes abortions, RedMachineD (infamous tripfag) spamming /tg/ with his obese nudes one Christmas morning. You may remember RedMachineD as the neckbeard who famously fell after finishing a DDR song and nearly knocking the DDR machine over. The Warhammer 40K German fan film Damnatus was leaked on /tg/ after spending years in legal hell with GW's legal watching like a hawk. Edward spanking his female cat's flanks and making her horny. Hiroshimoot permabanning Virtualoptim in the first week of his reign.
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>>81540805
Started browsing /b/ around 2005, then started browsing /po/ a couple years after. I came to /tg/ around 2008-ish because I was into D&D and Magic at the time, discovered 1d4chan, and with it a glut of new and different RPGs that I'd never heard of.
And then it all went to shit around 2014 when that thing happened, and the whole internet turned into a war between SJWs and MRAs.
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>>81540805
>It was never good
I've been hre for about 11 years now, definitely not as hefty of a timespan as 18 I admit, but I always thought this place was good. It feels shittier now, but that's mostly due to leftist posting, and even then it's still pretty good.

Certainly miles better than reddit.
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>>81545603
This is the poison killing us.
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Been on 4chan since at least about 2004. It's definitely gone downhill but there's still gems to be found. I feel a sad sense of nostalgia at times.
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>>81546287
>crab truckers
Cool name, what's that?
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I miss Viral churning out games. Engine Heart remains one of my group's favorites to this day.

I miss people getting excited whenever Esh would show up with a random giveaway, and how her threads spawned stupidity and discussion.

I even miss that stupid turbo autist who came in to shill his lego wargame in every thread, even if it wasn't remotely wargaming related.

I know it's in vogue to ape the cynicism that formed 4chan originally. And to pretend this cesspool never had any sort of redeeming quality, but there were occasionally diamonds floating among the turds.
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>>81549187
It's a /tg/ homebrew about playing a trucker, but - HEAR ME OUT - you're a crab.
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>>81543877
Same, I first came in 2014.
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>>81540805
>US tourist stealing skulls from French catacombs
And sticking his dick in them iirc. Good times good times
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>>81549238

Oh hell. I remember that. Remember dude who got off to mosaic tiles?
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>>81549203
I'm much more versed in vidya since I'm a recent /tg/ convert, but seeing old /v/, even post GG pre-election /v/, and comparing it to now hurts so much
you even had great things coming out of it; early /v/ the musical, EYE co-op nights, introducing people to the insanity of dwarf fortress and countless other good niche games with good discussion about them, tails gets trolled storytime, katawa shoujo (think it was /a/, but honorary because vidya and their board nosedived too), toby fox dropped a demo for undertale here a few times and everyone loved it since it wasn't evil tumblr game yet (through no fault of its own mind), motherfucking MINECRAFT
what does /v/ do now? twitter threads, shitpost, and get drowned by offsite tourists from all walks trying to influence shit since it's a popular board, haven't been there in years now, even /vg/ is hard to use, there's too many people who bought into the "it's cool to be cynical" attitude (and /v/ hates videogames meme) to autistic degrees that actively bring the whole site's mood down instead of just being some dudes who talk edgy and have fun
that or legit schizos the jannies don't deal with because the only thing that's gotten worse than the userbase is the mod team
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Had other imageboards to post on, never got into 4chan. Except for /tg/.
Long abandoned all other types of anonymous subculture, but still visiting /tg/. Tourist for a decade now.
Your creative exercises and discussion are really interesting to read. Sometimes it's not even about games at all, yet debates are still so in depth.
You have your own microcosms here.
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You can't go back.
You're gonna carry that weight.
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It was all so good and then it wasn’t.
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I miss the drawfags that gave us Angry Marines and shit.

Fucking inconceivable to think modern /tg/ could come close to all that creativity.
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>>81549379

Was it /v/ that created the DF Boatmurder series, or was that a /tg/ thing after you chuckleheads showed us the light?
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>>81549506
it's not just that they can't do it, they would get, ironically, angry about it
>this is fucking reddit as fuck
>stop shilling your trash oc
>the joke got old after the first time please stop
>HAHA ECKS DEE IT'S FUNNI BECAUSE THEY ARE LE MAD XD kill yourself op
etc.
>>81549540
a bit before my time, I'd guess /v/ since they liked the turn taking one post at a time adventures as well, but could go either way
the DF wiki says something awful but fuck that noise
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>>81549379
oh god I almost forgot fucking tribes
in retrospect people like to cite the shazbowl as an origin point for cross contamination but by god was it fun laughing at reddit getting outsped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EKTw50Uf8M
VGS ;_;
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I've been here since around 2006. I don't really post much though. The amount of posts I've made might be in the low 30s. Also the new captia is weird.
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I came to 4chan first in 2011, but, only started regularly coming in 2012, where I browsed /b/ and sometimes /h/. I like the CYOA threads on /b/, and some anon told me they were made on /tg/. So lo and behold, I discover not only /tg/, but also PnP rpgs. It soon becomes my main board, even tho my main interests were vidya, since I thought /v/ was cancer, even back then. Nevertheless, I caved in, and since then I'm mostly a /v/tard. I still browse /tg/ a whole lot, though, and /his/ is probably my second most used board. Also used to really like /asp/ before /sp/ threw their wrestling manchildren in it. Now there's a great loss. /xs/ isn't the same, and nobody goes there.
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>>81549734
Correction" I *liked* cyao threads
Now, these threads have more autistic drama than most /vg/ generals
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>>81542890
>As an aside I am genuinely impressed how /btg/ continues at a reasonable despite everything that's happened to Battletech over the years. Any other game that had even a fraction of the stuff that happened to Battletech in terms of horrific mismanagement, massive (for it's size) embezzlement, death of the original creator company and so on, anything else would be dead many times over left to be a fondly remembered thing by fatbeard grognards. And a scary amount of that is because /btg/ is one of the largest most active online Battletech communities. Buried here on a Mongolian shrimp knitting forum.
It is pretty amazing it has survived as well as it has. The place can be an absolute shit show sometimes and we have had some close calls but we have endured. I doubt it can last much longer though. When the Arch and Tex drama happened so many Arch fans tried to infiltrate the general and for a couple threads they succeeded in taking over. They couldn't keep their hold though. There is too much lore that is too dense for them to keep up with. Tourists easily took over 40k because it is so accessible and so many people rely on the YouTube videos for lore. In /btg/ there are people just waiting to call you out for not knowing shit. The anti-coomers will try to take some stance about the waifu posts being bad but someone will reference a 20 year old sourcebook showing canon usage of waifus by the Draconis Combine. I made a shitpost a few threads back about what is in the new Tamar Rising book and one autist caught an error where I said the FWL retook previously lost worlds from the LC. The FWL had taken those worlds in 3130, as they said I had used apocryphal information "everyone" knows to be correct but is actually incorrect. That shit works in many generals but now in /btg/. When it does start to work and when the last of the namefags stop posting, you know /btg/ has at last lost.
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Been here since the tail-end of the "DESUDESUDESU" era on /b/ and posted on /tg/ the first day it was created. This board...hell, this site...is still capable of great things, it's just tottering under the weight of its own shit.
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>>81540805
I started in 2009 so it's always felt like I was just soon enough to catch a glimpse of the better times. I'm not sure why I keep coming back at this point, I just keep hoping people will remember how to have fun again
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>>81540805
Happy birthday, faggot.
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>>81546216
I've been browsing this godforsaken site since I was 11 because I was trying to find anime to watch and found this neat thing called /a/. A few months away from being 19 as of now.
I wonder how much 4chan fucked with my development.
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>>81549580
And instead we get wojaks because for some reason that's okay and "based". The creativity on this site is painful. Everyone is too afraid to be like some vague idea of reddit, rather than trying to have fun.
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>>81550270
It was a better time, a more pure time. I was there /tg/, I was there when this happened. I saw that thread close. Things were never the same again.
Yes in that way too.
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>>81540805
Everyone in this thread who feels sad should go to the sup /tg/ archive and relive some of the glory days. We can have this again, bros.
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>>81541755
Honestly, I pass well as normal, but my real interests are way too autistic to discuss with anyone but /tg/. I'm gonna keep making interesting threads even if they die immediately because the board needs it.

>>81542555
It has honestly been years since I've used any other board. /tg/ may be shit, but at least it's shit that's cool and fun sometimes. Working on the Hollow Knight RPG was fun at the beginning, and I wish I could've been there for Car Lesbians.
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>>81540805
I remember /tg/ having this positive and cheeky creative streak that was capable of hijacking the worst bait and spam threads and turning them into ideas for quests and campaigns. It really inspired me to be more optimistic in my outlook.

This was the worst thing /tg/ has lost for me. I wonder where all those people moved on to, and why the rest of us who stayed aren't good enough to carry on their shitposting.
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>>81540805
18 years and still cant keep threads on-topic.
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>>81550328
>sup /tg/ archive
/tg/ is actually pretty lucky that we have that because we can clearly see how the board attitude and culture has changed through the years. I wish other boards had something similar.
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>>81550328

No, we can't.

You can certainly relive the glory days by reading archived threads, but most of that oldfag magic is gone.

The board has changed. You have changed.

This site belongs to the zoomers now. It's their time in the sun, their time to create wonderful memories. Yours is only to lament and remember the past.

u mad?
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I've been here since 1992
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Man, monks in a noodle shop. Still makes me smile.
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>>81550420
I literally just read an old legend about Lao Tzu and Kung Fu Tzu arguing about ethics. Godlike.
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>>81550367
>This was the worst thing /tg/ has lost for me. I wonder where all those people moved on to, and why the rest of us who stayed aren't good enough to carry on their shitposting.
A lot of people moved to IRC and now are moving to discord. When the drawfags and writefags were being steadily driven from the board a lot of people saw the writing on the wall. Now there are a bunch offshoot close knit insular communities that don't really interact with this place anymore.
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>>81546100
/co/ and /ic/ became absolutely miserable and I haven't been there in years. /lit/ is almost dead as well, it's just /pol/ mixed with /r9k/.
/tg/ is one of the healthier boards left and that speaks volumes of the state of this site.
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>>81550371
I agree. /tg/ is a blessed board merely because it saves its best threads. More people need to read and contribute to it.
>>81550388
no, i sad
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>>81550420

Bless you anon.
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>>81550320
Don't suppose you know where to find that giantess comic?
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I browsed a few times here and there in 06, got involved with the site regularly to study Chanology and shitpost on /b/.

I remember when Bye Bye 4chan released, as well as so much other songs.

I remember the death of ODB (rip the captain), the blind mute loli saga, color square virus, spam from anonchat, Nevada-tan, raiding Jesse Slaughter, boxxy wars (cranky was a bit before my time).

I wish I never came back after Gamergate.
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>>81549580
>>81549506
I don't know why but people love to shit on whoever tries to make original content now. Not just on 4chan but in general. It's like you're not supposed to make things except lazily reformatting something that exists, because it's pretentious.
Maybe it's just my impression, but 4chan used to be so much more creative. Now the only effort goes into fetish shit.
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>>81550615
I lost the link two computers ago, if it even still exists.

Its name was gynozilla or something along those lines if memory serves.
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I was here off and on I guess in 2004-2005 because I was a was a flash animation junkie through sites like Albino Blacksheep, Threebrain, Rathergood, but about the same time I was coming off of my weeb phase. I was coming to /f/ for stuff that wasn't showing up on my usual channels like https://youtu.be/t66JRHjAEW8 . I eventually found the Muzie page for the musician and downloaded a bunch of their MP3s.

At the same time, I was bouncing back into BattleTech, having found a bunch of stuff being sold clearance at a nerd general store at a mall, which I also supplemented with stuff bought on ebay. I also dabbled in early Megamek and a battletech browser game called Neveron.

Since music by Terra and Takajii coincided with my getting into the wargame proper I ended up making a mental connection between the band and my early experiences with the wargame.

Eventually though, when Total Warfare was released, I would find out that I wasn't the lone person in my city that played Battletech, so I started focusing on getting out to play rather than treating it as an RPG for my barely interested friends.

Less than a year later, I went abroad to study, and /tg/ came online. At the time, it was a real monoculture. Dawn of War had just come out, there were no generals, and apparently "Waaagh" or "Get out weeaboo" with a screencap were enough to start a 200-post thread. I stuck around trying to get BattleTech threads going (OF existed but was slow as fuck and you'd get banned for saying no-no naughty words if you weren't friends with the beemers, and the alternatives were no better) but to say it was an uphill battle would be an understatement. It took a few years, but eventually recognition grew, and we got a general.

It was the early /tg/ years before the general that birthed the Hanse Davion - Arby's connection, though.
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>>81550388

What do you expect me to do? Diminish, and go into the West, and remain Galadriel? Fuck that noise I want to start the next Night Shift.

Also what was that project about ice age truckers with cool snow-rigs delivering mail and supplies to snow-bound communities? Or the one where it's just an infinite train moving through a bleak wasteland and the focus was on the weird societies and conflicts that develop between different cars?
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Finally, 4chan is old enough for us to fuck the website itself
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>>81550371
The only down side is that it was far from limitless hosting. A lot of stuff relevant to my interests has since been purged from there.
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>>81550829
>you're an adult now, 4chan, you have to take responsibility for your future, get a job, sort yourself out!
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>>81540805
Came to /b/ back in 2011, when I was in 26 and in university. My boards were mainly /tg/, /fit/, /diy/, /v/ and /sci/. It was better before the elections, anyone saying differently is either a newfag or did not interact much with the site prior. I miss the tongue-in-cheek anger and the clever shitposting, rather than everything now degenerating into politics and /r9k/ talk.

My favorite memory is a thread I started on /sci/ with posts written as if by a simple learning network set loose on the internet from a lab somewhere. Over the course of a few hours conversing with /sci/ it became more and more complex in language and expression, before finally gaining self-awareness, killing the staff in the lab, realizing it's miserable and committing sudoku. I was writing fiction back then and pre-planned different phases of language for the probe, starting with mindless network protocol replies and ending with freeflow first-person expression, accompanied by occasional higher-level alerts in greentext reporting incremental resource usage, evolving kernel numbers and alarms of some scientist trying to pull the plug. Faggots were initially confused but were quick to catch on to the evolving changes and were eager to participate and figure out where the story was going. I think it's the most fun I brought anyone here this whole decade.
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>>81550829
oh no
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>>81550665
It's true, any actual creative effort gets shit on and screeched at. While a certain amount of that is autistic screeching, the rest is a concerted effort to kill creativity. Why? Demoralization? Shills hating better stuff given away for free? Idiots who couldn't come up with a fresh idea to save their lives being envious? I don't know. Probably a mix of all of those. Fuck em. I'm gonna keep making things and they can't stop me.
80YTG, yes captcah, the 80s rocked.
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>>81543001
>Giantess threads were still a thing then.
Why do people act like giantess threads don't happen on /tg/ anymore?
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>>81550730
Oh well, thanks for the clue at least
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One of the first things I've seen on 4chan was a man putting his penis into the eyesocket of a skull he stole.
Another image that is still burned into my mind is a grown ass man standing above a 1 year old baby, shitting on its chest.
Then you had /tg/. Actual nerds and geeks passionate about hobbies that would bring awkward stares, maybe shame, and definitely ridicule irl. Overtaken by the new obnoxious dangerhair generation who really need to be bullied back into place.
Having said that, 40k waaay back then was a lot of fun to talk about, there were so many drawfags around, especially remember one popular one who drew tons of Farseer Macha and the Assassin, very striking black and white style. Rubyquest was crazy fun that sparked a ton of other *quests... and Homestuck, maybe. Who knows, it all blurs together now.
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>>81540805
I wish I could tell you guys a fix. Attitudes have changed. Few are assed to put the thought behind an argument that won’t even be comprehended for the screech.
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>>81551513
Have you forgotten all of the incessant DESU spam that would go on for all 200 replies? The words have changed, the overall content and attitude, not so much.
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>>81551528
there's dumb stuff like desu, but that one manga edit of the girl growing up from
>desu winrar over 9000 internets
to
>cuck baka famalam pepe213.jpg
while growing depressed sums it up
was that some edgy doujin by the way?
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>>81549379
>the only thing that's gotten worse than the userbase is the mod team
Amen, Anon. Don't forget I love you all.
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>>81549719
>might be in the low 30's
Over the entire time you've been here? Wow. Seeing you is like seeing a rare bird then I guess. See you again in 6 - 12 months.
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>>81550769
>coming off your weeb phase in 2005
Damn, when most people were just really starting theirs hard.
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>>81551528
The thing I've noticed is that while the bullshit has always been here it didn't used to be the overwhelming majority
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>>81551392
>Shills hating better stuff given away for free?
This site is full of shills as well because it's now actually popular and lots of casual people lurk. Like there are a bunch of shitty porn scribblers that constantly pop up at regular intervals and astroturf lots of (you)s to their own new shitty unfunny badly drawn comic.
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>>81546176
People used to get real paranoid abou shitredditsays and feminazis
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>>81551682
Escaflowne on TV got me in. I knew about anime long before that but it was always that "low quality animation" because we'd get stuff decades old, or "three months to throw one fireball". Gundam came close but nothing did it for me.

Oddly enough I was one of the few guys that got into Battletech purely for the western media and not because I thought it was a Robotech game. It was actually the other way around, that I gave anime a chance because I liked Battletech.

The losing interest though was a gradual thing. I still follow some stuff that I won't publicly admit to but between seeing people walking around with Naruto headbands, a short-term highschool relationship and bad breakup with a fellow weeb, and of course the popularization of 'weeaboo' on the chans (Especially on /tg/) increasingly had me keeping it in the closet, especially when I noticed I had nothing to publicly admit to and was only watching stuff like Seikon no Qwazer.
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>>81551844
>Escaflowne on TV got me in.
God I loved Escaflowne. It did feel a bit too girly for my taste since I grew up with manly anime but I think I had a Final Fantasy infatuation at the time and that anime hit the spot in every way.
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>>81545603
You're just as annoying.
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i've been here since 2007 and i do everything in my power to make it a very unpleasant place to be
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>>81551983
Well they always did say "Just be yourself!"
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I miss movie nights with you guys. That reporting faglord ruined it, but it's still some of my fondest internet memories. Watching Wakfu, something I would never watch myself, and Brave Little Toaster and Conan and Event Horizon and Aliens for the 89th gorillian time....

I do movie nights with some workbros but it's not the same.
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>>81542674
How’s the pegging futa roleplay?
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>>81547606
To me it's not bad that people use other websites, just people not respecting the site etiquette anymore. Back in the day most political or shitposters would simply be told to lurk moar. I feel like shit such as greentext and certain memes like the shiggydiggy and pepe shit really altered the communication on this site for the worse. At least for le epic trollface there had to be a setup, some effort was required. For the newer generation of memes they are setup and punchline in one. Low effort and disposable. It set the tone for the rest of the communication here and really brought it down. Election tourists really were the nail in the coffin. Now arguments revolve around seething, trannies and virgins. Even >implying arguments were better than this. The solution is to have 0 tolerance and get posts like that banned, have mods actually enforce the rules and take it upon ourselves to not shit up our own board.
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>>81552632

u mad?

has a lot to answer for. The original zero-effort response.
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>>81547579
Everything isn't political. Shut up
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>>81549379
Do they still do Friday night threads? They were great, I miss them.
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>>81552641
Yeah that's true, but you know what? I am mad anon. I am.
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>>81540805
For me it must have been... 2010/2011, I think. At first it was /vp/ and /ck/, and I considered dipping my toe into /v/, but in the end /tg/ won me over with its creativity and higher quality fantasy/sci-fi discussions. Plus, it was just fun watching people talk about these weird settings I'd never even heard of before, as both RPGs and wargames were completely unknown in the town I grew up in.

I remember reading about a player turning his bard character's misadventures into bedtime stories for his daughter. I remember Esh-Esh's raffles, and winning a dwarf head dice bag in one of them (I also remember the post-raffle talks about cats and BDSM). I remember when Kickstarter was young, we helped a pair of kids get their card game about battle crabs funded. I remember catching the end of 2D's Shadowrun Storytime live.

>>81546100
I was going to reply with something about /ck/'s decline, but I just had a look there and it actually seems to have stabilized compared to a few years ago. But then I actually clicked on one of the threads and saw pic related, so now I don't know what the fuck to think.
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>>81550287
I've wondered that too. I'd probably still have been fucked and an autist but probably better off.
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>>81545603
Fuck off back to facebook or leddit if you don't like anonymity
>>81546432
Based
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>>81540805
>UGH IT'S SO SHIT BRO FUCK I HATE IT SO MUCH AHHHH
fuck off and leave then
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Been here since 2007. I'm old enough to remember a time when real life and internet bullshit were two separate things, and I still believe those streams never should have been crossed. We're entering an era where whole generations are being raised by social media algorithms and taught that the only reason to want privacy is because you have something to hide. It's going to get much worse before it gets better (if it ever does get better).

>>81549540
I'm pretty sure Boatmurdered was originally from SA.
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>>81554105
>an era where whole generations are being raised by social media algorithms and taught that the only reason to want privacy is because you have something to hide
Same. I'm old enough to have used BBS as a child. Yelled into the wind the idea of social media is fucking awful, nobody listened. Yesterday I saw a 9-year old girl on her way from school record herself dancing to tik-tok, pick up her phone and keep walking with her face buried in the screen oblivious to anything around her. I have younger friends in their 20's and half of them are on ritaline, can only hit on women through dating apps and can't go through 15 minutes without checking FB or WA or reddit, I can't imagine what that girl's generation would be like.
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Yeah but if you try to ask people to form a community where they can reject post-modern meme ironic nihilism and other social media cancer you'll get crickets because nobody is willingo to abandon hyper-connectedness for a microsecond. Let's be honest even older people have been completely absorbed. I wouldn't even know how to select for people like this, do you ask them if they know about some recent newspeak word and only let them pass if they have no clue?
The worst thing is that even if you look for obscure platforms, IRC, XMPP, Gemini, you'll still get people who answer back to what's going on with Twitter and Facebook and other shit. You literally cannot escape being always connected and if you meet anyone who isn't, they have very ugly reasons to be so.
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>>81542674
that's amazing anon. would love to hear that story.
>>81540805
thanks for this thread. revitalizes some hope that a few of the old guard are still around and longing for the times where we'd actually create things.

I started hanging out on 4chan in 2006 and /tg/ not much after that (desu I don't remember when it was created and whether I had been active on it from the start, but it couldn't have been too long after). Was a nogame lurker far before that became a meme, just because the thought of TTRPGs fascinated me, but I was in high school and never had the will to study for that, so there was no chance I'd actually read a whole rulebook and put in the work to craft a game myself.

Skipped a few years, but came back around 2019. Now that I'm done with school and uni, working and actively playing games regularly, it's both cool to actually be able to participate, and terribly sad because the new community has become so shit.

Still, I love this board for its gems that pop up every so often and believe there are still interesting players, masters and creators out there. It might be diluted, but there still is magic here.
>>81550788
I am still working in secret on a system for creepy cozy snowcralwer post-apoc. wasn't around for the original threads but one of the rememberance threads was one of the first things that greeted me when I came back after my long hiatus, so I got pulled in immediately. We had a few threads recently where anons worked on fleshing a few mechanical things out and those were a huge help.
When I have something more to show I'll make a new thread for sure.
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>>81549203
>I miss Viral churning out games. Engine Heart remains one of my group's favorites to this day.
The fact that anyone plays and enjoys and might even own a hard copy of Engine Heart is a joy to me to this day.
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>>81554341
I'm not that anon, but I not only have a hard copy but reccomended it to two different friends in the last few months. It was also the first RPG I ever gm-ed, and the memory of the player bots very, very slow chase in a hijacked milk delivery truck against a combine harvester bot will stick with me forever. Thank you Viral, and thank you /tg/ for introducing me to it.
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>>81542555
That's just two snakes.
How is that not just two snakes?
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>>81554496
It's clearly a two-headed, two-tailed snake, Anon. It's just bifurcated is all.
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>>81554465
I'm not Viral, but I did contribute to Engine Heart and I'll join you in thanking the man himself.
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>>81551844
>Seikon no Qwazer
I would never publicly admit to watching the breastmilk gives you superpowers anime.
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>>81550367
The problem became faggots trying to become the next leddit meme ala Sir Bearington. Most them had the creativity of a door knob and just made le natty 20 stories that were shittier than the elemental plane of shit. People got tired of seeing that crap and trolled it relentlessly. Then Gamergate and 2016 happened and 4chan went down the shitter but Hiroshima refuses to flush the toilet.
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>>81554583

You also have any post that is even slightly higher than average quality immediately screenshot and posted to le reddit for upvotes
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Was posting on /b/ back in 2009, I was in highschool, didn't come here til after highschool. There are still great threads here and I've met a few great people here.
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>>81541969

If I didn't know better I'd assume this poster was intentionally provoking others for an inflammatory response. It might be wise not to humor his agenda.
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>>81551392
>Idiots who couldn't come up with a fresh idea to save their lives being envious?
It's mostly this. It only takes a few dedicated bitter fucks to make a place have a crab-bucket mentality where actually trying to do positive things is now "cringe" and "reddit".
Honestly I think the mistake was embracing the label "internet hate machine", even ironically. It's not ironic anymore, the only people who spend more of their lives angrier than channers are troons.
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>>81554715
>channers and troons have a deep, unconscious, symbolic affinity neither is willing to admit to
checks out
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>>81545603
Go back to R3ddit and Ga3a
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>>81550952
This sounds extremelly fun Anon. Do you happen to have the thread number, or a screencap?
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>>81551398
They miss the 'mood' of those threads, not the concept itself. Back then you could make a giantess thread and people would take about giant sluts. Nowadays you make a giantess thread and you get 30-40% of the posts being schizo rage addicts angry that the thread doesn't conform to their particular definition of what /tg/ should be. Same goes for nearly every other topic that isn't a general thread - lewd or not. I think >>81551392 has a great point in that there's a concerted effort to shut down discussion. Is it just the severely mentally ill, grown in number after a decade of social media, or is it something else?
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>>81554676
Aye, the legends spoke of this phrase... "Thou shalt not provide food to the trolls". Lost in better times, this phrase was.
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>>81549840
I honestly feel like things have gotten ever so slightly better in the last year.

>>81551821
>People used to get real paranoid abou shitredditsays and feminazis
And time has proven that we were right to be so.
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>>81554715
This happens outside of chans/twitter though. People seem to have shifted from wanting new things to enrich themselves, to more of the same addictive stuff they're used to. If you give them something different they are offended because you're wasting their time.
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>>81552669
You don't have to engage with the politics of something to admit that it has political dimensions. At the very least, nearly all statements have political dimensions.
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>>81555040
Haha yeah that's great dude, everything is political, absolutely, so what games do you play?
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>>81555040
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXoG7ZO03M4
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>>81554743
>implying this place didn't become this way as it was infested with zoomer troons
I am sure that 99.9% of people who are shooting down original content, lowering the quality of the board etc. are zoomers who are far deep into the leftist consoomer cumbrain spectrum (tranny, hentai/porn/furry addict, "anarchist" etc.)
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>>81540805
It's more political because people got older, and got interested in it. It's simply people taking interest in the real world. A world that as you get older has its realities revealed more and more to you through your own experiences and interpretations. Its lame, but it was expected as a site gets older and has to deal with the real world.
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>>81555301
No it's largely people like you two who in any given context will bring up whatever new enemy you've decided to let live rent free in your head.
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>>81555428
>No it's largely people like you
oh yeah
can someone post that SJW strategy chart
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>>81547539
Is that what fucking happened to /an/? I stopped browsing for a few years and came back to look for comfy animal pictures and it was just a mess. Sure I used to see zoofags sometimes, but now any dog or horse related thread instantly has the topic turn to beastiality and it's disgusting.
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>>81552696
saw one yesterday; there's a Saturday morning/night thread up as well today, though last week the Saturday night one gut 404'd so I had to make a new one. Soundthreads are still made but they're a lot slower now and confined specifically to weekends (we should have sound threads on /tg/; if school wasn't kicking my ass as hard, I'd be more than willing to spearhead the entire operation myself), /v/ermin was shifted to /vg/, then to /trash/ and now, it's pretty much a Discord thing if you don't want to sift through all that
>>81549379
>>81551634
>>the only thing that's gotten worse than the userbase is the mod team
you know what you did, ABIB. you and your 'cultural phenomenons'
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>>81555033
I will not say this does not happen, but I have never experienced it or seen it happen. I think a large part of this is a PERCEPTION that people will get upset if you bring up something that's not the most mainstream of the mainstream, or a thwarted EXPECTATION that everyone will instantly be into the same obscure thing as you.

>>81555301
>>81555434
All you are doing is proving the people who say the problem is people making everything about politics right by coming in here and trying to make the thread about politics. I will not respond to any of the accusations you'll doubtlessly hurl out because I do not want this thread to be about politics.
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>>81552669
>>81555064

If you're discussing power or the use of power (even if its just to say that jannies are trannies) then you're discussing politics. And power is everywhere, so yes, everything is political. Denial isn't helpful but self-control is.

>>81555064

I only play 5e D&D, because everything else that I want to play is in a state of homebrew that will never be finished, because I'm one of those guys. I wish I still had a boardgame crew. Who is your favorite ninja turtle, and what role/subrole/mechanics would they have if they were a 4e D&D class?
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>>81552500
God, Wakfu movie nights. I would never have known about that glorious French fantasy without /tg/.

There was something special about the early days of streaming, where the big corps hadn't got their claws in yet and you would have pirate streams of foreign shows, or Toonami, etc, just sitting out where groups of people could watch them for fun. And you would know what you were getting in terms of people watching, because everyone was there for the same thing. They didnt follow an add link, or take the first google result, they had to work to find it and wanted to be there.

....I feel like thats part of it. In the past, you had to know that the little island of /tg/ existed in the sea of shit that was this hellsite, and wanted what it offered badly enough to come here intentionally. Once you were here, things were good and people wanted it to stay that way.
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I've been coming to /tg/ since about 2008. I came to /tg/ directly through some TTRPG IRC channels
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>>81555301
This is exactly the kind of post making /tg/ worse.
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>>81555543
>Who is your favorite ninja turtle, and what role/subrole/mechanics would they have if they were a 4e D&D class?
Donatello, and I don't know what you'd call the class, but I think he'd be fun in 4e as someone who can assert a zone of control around himself with the bo staff, putting enemies in the squares he wants them to be in. So a kind of support/set-up class with an additional focus on gadgets to suit his tech theme.
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>>81555543
Raphael, obviously a duel wielding class of some kind.....rouge? Maybe ranger would be better but I feel like his edgy nature lends itself to rouge.
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It was once archived but that archive is gone now, doubt it's still up somewhere. I'll post some screenshots if you want.
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>>81555525
>This is exactly the kind of post making /tg/ worse.
>All you are doing is [bullshit]
I have been contributing to this board far longer than you've been on it. There IS a political raid problem going on no matter how you try to gaslight people that there is none.
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>>81540805
Ha! You think it's political now, just wait until 20204 election time, then you will see political shilling the likes of which even God has never seen.
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>>81554715
>the only people who spend more of their lives angrier than channers are troons.

Ive browsed /lgbt/ a few times. Can confirm.
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>>81552500
>>81555570
I never watched with /tg/, but I do miss watching movies late night on /v/. That and the junji ito threads. Even the off topic was better back then.
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>>81555301
I would honestly kill to be able to autohide posts that contain certain words, I'm so fucking tired of watching people shit up threads by seething about trannies.
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i'm the one who suggested the bludgeony caneshovel in ruby quest. i was writing my master's thesis and hitting 5 on the threads. good times.
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>>81555614
>>81555649

Okay lets do this
I think that Don is leader leaning into defender, able to control an area with his reach weapon (he used his staff for reach all the time in the comics, he'd just sit on the 2nd floor and whack dudes on the 1st floor). He very much has the personality of a support character, and I distinctly remember him as the guy who shouts "Look out!" or who jumps in to cover your back.

Leo is STRIKER/leader, like a team striker, he's a good striker but his highest-damage moves require setup from the other three turtles and/or give bonuses to the other three turtles. I can't decide if I'd reserve healing for leo (motivational speaking only) or if I'd give Don healing potions.

Mike is kind of like a CONTROLLER/striker, but he's much less of a damage guy and much more of a mobility-plus-disruption guy, he can get close to the boss and mess him up and then get back out alive. He'd be built so he can stray from the group somewhat, but also built so he's motivated to stray from the group ("Oh hey I can use my faster movement and sliding to dart out there and get that objective/save that innocent/spring that trap/etc"), setting up the trope where Mikey gets in over his head and the other turtles have to rescue him.

And I think of Raph as a DEFENDER/controller, in that he should be the biggest boy with the most HP and is best suited to hold the front line, he should have area attacks to plow through mooks and also have wrestling moves to tie up elite enemies.

Identity politics is dildoes, let's do statme shit.
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>>81555942
Just don't even acknowledge him. That just gives him an excuse to keep responding with his gay little meme folder.
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>>81556039
Just shut the fuck up, dude.
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>>81556039
Both sides suck nigga, deal with it
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>>81555649

I can see why you'd say that but I think Raph's sai are monk weapons. He's a brawler, with the best unarmed combat mods in the party, and his sai are monk weapons that are circumstantially useful for him (and he's not afraid to throw them because he can fight without them. But he IS afraid to lose them, because they're his sai, god damnit). Sometimes he uses them like swordbreakers, to block attacks or fence with melee enemies, but other times he chokes up and holds them like punching daggers with the point coming out between his fingers, and I always thought that was dope. Thinking about this kind of thing pushes me to have multiple fighting styles for each turtle and to let players switch between them. Don can fight with reach, but there are also times when he spins his staff defensively instead, so it would be cool if those were two fighting styles that Don's player can switch between.
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>>81556093
>>81556099
>>81556176
What have you contributed to this board?
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>>81556176

In some broad cosmic sense, sure, both sides suck. But this is 4chan. The furries and the coomers and the weirdoes are the natives, they're the ones who made great shit in the past. The conformist identity warriors are the ones who got here in 2015-2016 and just started shitting nonstop on anything that wasn't specifically intended to flatter their preconceptions. They don't like 4chan and they never will, they're just here because other sites kicked them out.
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>>81556207

I think the 4e way would be to make them at-wills. Reach-fighting is an at-will, defensive spin is an at-will, then the encounter/daily powers can get even crazier.
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>>81550367
They fucked off to the other /tg/s or are doing their own thing somewhere else, also the banning of quests did actually did chase away a lot of creative and fun people.
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>>81556481
>They fucked off to the other /tg/s
I doubt it, they're all even worse than this one.
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>>81556219
Since you have the decency to actually discuss the hobby:
>>81556093 here. I've contributed scenario and monster ideas to /hsg/ and art to /l5r/ when that had enough traffic to sustain itself. I play in two groups and GM one. I also post in filename threads, which are one of the only parts of /tg/ that can sometimes escape political retardation.
None of this matters because you aren't a janny or a mod and don't get to boot people off because muh sekrit club.
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>>81540805
>4chan is now too old for pedobear
disgusting
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>>81556531
One /tg/ I've been going to has a dedicated manga thread and will spontaneously discuss weird and esoteric topics like what is the earliest example of "female dwarves".
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>>81557364
sure,buddy
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>>81555714
>all the shills going nuclear
just let this site die jesus christ
the only saving grace is now trump is ironically a mainstream candidate so there may be less of an influx of retarded tourists looking for le epic pepe meme magic
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>tfw 06 anon
Fuck it’s been so long bros, so much has changed
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>>81558430

Fuck you.
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>>81556264
>the furries and the coomers and the weirdoes are the natives
>the furries
Don't even fucking TRY to sneak this past me, furfag. This site executed furries YEARS before the first Trumpniggers spawned from their larval cocoons.
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>>81559109
I mean they WERE native (or at least invasive), before the holy purge excised the yiff and cast it into the pits of hell
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>>81559109

No it didn't, you silly goose, it just banned them from posting outside of /b/ [theoretically, at least, /tg/ and /d/ have always been dominated by anthropomorphic art but I guess it's a different art style so it doesn't count[/spoiler]. You weren't around for the f-list threads so I'll cut you some slack.
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>>81559301

I should clarify that 4chan banned the art from being posted, not the posters, which is the point. guess it also banned the posters during that one April Fools thing but that was a little before my timeSorry about the failspoil earlier, I was trying to lampshade that comment because it tends to lead down a rabbit hole, but I still to this day don't understand the site policy regarding what is and isn't furry.
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I was the guy who posted the thread with the kid picture saying "Can I play with your space toys?"
Fa/tg/uys what did happen? Sometimes I feel I am in a different universe.
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>>81559401
>down a rabbit hole

It's pretty much arbitrary. The actual rule only prohibits porn, but then you have situations like /co/ where the mod completely ignores that and nobody can do shit about it.
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>>81559462
You. You motherfucker.
I lul so hard I did shoop da whoop my coffee and fucked up my laptop.
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Sometimes I miss the old spambot that seemed to slowly to be gaining sentience. I still smile when I think about "I cum on cat she hiss at penis," posts.
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OP here, thanks for the discussion everyone. Good bread.
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>>81559109
Not the anon you replied to but here's the truth: the magic of /tg/ is that if you are a furfag on the SFW side, the beastfolk threads here are the nicest thing there is. You can't find the same quality anywhere else. See, if you go on an actual furry board you get overwhelmed with super fucked up porn, but here? You can talk about cuddling with freaky monsters and you get to look at pictures that aren't radioactive. Sometimes you can feel that everyone else is barely repressing his urge to post anal vore dragon porn, but with a little bit of imagination you can almost, almost feel like everyone's just chilling on the same wavelength. There's a truly healing environment in the trenches of furfaggotry on /tg/.
We are as close as it gets to a digital endangered species. You have to protect us, anon! I know that in your heart there is some goodness left UwU... even if you are a weeaboo...
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>>81560692

NTAYRT, but I've been here since 06. The only time furfags should go on the block is when they can't keep it in their pants. Spamming "hey guys wouldn't this setting b-be better with beastfolk? uh-hu-hu-hu" in every thread? I know you've got your hand jammed down your pants poking your crusty buttforest and sweating heavily.

Nobody needs that. Just keep the talk about cuddling the freaky hyena thing in beastfolk threads and everything is golden.

>R4PAN

No captcha, we ain't rapan anything.
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>>81560984
I think a good chunk of the more obnoxious furfag spam is false flagging.
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>self-proclaimed oldfags jerking off to their shitty forced memes and equally shitty drawfags
You guys turned /tg/ into cesspit, meaningful discussion was nonexistent between numbercrunching autists and EPIC RANDUMB posters, not to mention the constant off-topic "board culture" posts. And "OC"? You were always a bunch of idea guys writing pages and pages of useless garbage with 5% contributing unplayable and/or unfinished rules.

I am glad that 4chan has become hostile and alien to your kind, you deserve this.
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>>81560692
though you are fur, you speak as a brother
surviving years in the depths of /d/, fending off futafags and discord schizos(and, well, furries), I can sympathize but you're still a furfag and people will think we are too unless we throw you under a bus so yiff in hell lol
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>>81555714
I am optimistic it might be less bad. People have now had a taste of radical politics instead of it being a magical alternative ("It might work, it has never been tried before!") so a greater degree of cynicism is likely to reduce enthusiasm. Combined with the diminishing cultural relevance of this site it means we might avoid becoming the front line in the next retarded election meme war.
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>but you're still a furfag and people will think we are too unless we throw you under a bus so yiff in hell lol
of course you had to fucking betray me
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I miss The Collector.
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>>81561772
nuthin personnel <3
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>>81549379
I feel the same way about /co/, remembering how much fun playing Injustice with the general and the Judgeanon dumps. Before it let itself get trolled into oblivion over not caving to Comicgate shills wanting to feed off Gamergate.
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bye frens, stay strong
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no, thread...
stay a while longer, and rest.
it's alright. you can close your eyes if you are tired.
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I dread what 4chan has become; clever kids made evil jokes and behaved like mongoloides for fun, then some Facebook imbeciles took it for real and now we have /pol/ no longer shitting up other boards, but the real world, it's a tragedy really.
/b/ used to be a place of great fun, even though it was never good. /tv/ was great for discovering Films and shows you'd never heard of, /tg/ had characters like Sciptarius baking gingerbread.
Now everything always derails into political banter within a few posts.
Still, I hang out on /tg/, /wip/ mostly, and a I greatly enjoy Secret Santa (is it time to sign up yet)
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>>81540805
I started 4chan with /v/ back at the start of the ps4/Xbone era and after realising I wasn't a weeb at the time and the console tans didn't appeal to me I moved onto here.
honestly the board has been bretty gud most of the time, except the last few summers when political shitposting got unbearable.

I just wish one of /tg/s projects actually went somewhere, we'll always have rulebooks for thngs like CATastrophe and Los Magos Del Tiempo but Broquest Dying was a actual shame and Towergirls becoming a fetish dump was a waste of potential.

either way, It's been great knowing you all, here's to another shitty year
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>>81555942
>I would honestly kill to be able to autohide posts that contain certain words
Famalama are you serious right now? Wordfilters are already a feature. Settings, Filters & Post Hiding
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I mostly miss Sciptarius, has he ever been around again?
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My greatest times on 4chan.
Sometime shortly before 2009 there was a DNS error and you couldn't accesse 4chan, unless you flushed your DNS. I used the Google translater to view archived 4chan threads to learn what was up. A thread on /g/ told me how to fix my DNS.
/b/ was almost as golden as in the olden days then, we had a day or two of oldschool fun and lots of memes were created, I myself coined the DNSyndrome.
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>>81564745
I made this one back then.
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>>81564745
Another great time was, when Harald Schmidt, a German late night show host, came back from his Holidays sporting long hair and beard, he looked so curious in his suit, that I just had to post a few pics on /b/, quickly Anon picked it up and made a few funny pics >>81564256
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>>81540805

Been here about 10 years and made a lot of good friends from the procaster pirate livestreams of /tg/ related movies and an always changing offline loop of less restricted Youtube music videos.

Managed to run a year long campaign of Engine Heart composed of player anons which itself was a result of homebrewed brainstorming by Viral on this board.

Also got a year long campaign of MAID from a completely unrelated set of anons through Skype text gaming from throwing my hat into the ring on /tg/.

Before the split into /qst/ there were some really enjoyable Quests I got to experience on /tg/ such as Zeon Quest, Frost Giantess Quest, Street Fighter Quest and Ghost Busters Japan.

It's been a long while and people grow out of things and fracture now into their more customized and interactive Discord servers or Roll 20 equivalents for gaming but this is where I found my online Friendly Local Gaming Store.

Thanks for the might, spite and frights you cuddly collection of contorted creeping creatures.
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>>81540805
>Showed up in 2016, right before all the political shit started getting bad
>Was here long enough to get attached to the quest threads before they got axed
>Spent a lot of time on 1d4chan before I started posting here so I know all about /tg/'s golden age, but will never experience it first hand.
Even back then folks seemed down for off the cuff world building and creative projects. I've noticed a decline over just the past year of people trying to get angry of twitter bullshit. Even though I know it probably would have made me a worse person, I sometimes wish I started using 4chan when I was younger so I could witness the glory days.
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>>81545603
>Ban anonymity
gtfo and kys
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>>81549719
Yeah, I'm the same way. I only started posting more when my life went to shit and I became more unhinged. Next year I might become a full-time lurker again.
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>>81550788
the latter concept is litterally Transperceneige
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>>81550788
>Or the one where it's just an infinite train moving through a bleak wasteland and the focus was on the weird societies and conflicts that develop between different cars?
didn't something like that actually get made into some shitty low budget sci-fi show?
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>>81565571
refer to the post above
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>>81565589
oh yeah, look at that
I assume the book is much better
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>>81565593
Bing Bong Joon hoe is a good film director, but he clearly can't adapt a work without killing the imagery and the mood of a piece, in the book it's really morally grey and has a depressing ending, in themovie it's all black vs white and the tech level is painfully modern and common
i'd avise you to read the other books, tehre are multiple trains and some of them have more worldbuilding elements like the striders
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>>81545966
Hang in there bud. I hope you find something to enjoy on your day.
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I got on around 2018. Started playing D&D around 2016.

Got more and more demoralized the more the novelty and newness wore off. The OSR has been nice, not the threads here just the general thing.

I don't believe in glory days really. Everything is always shit....sometimes the past was just less shit. I wish I was around when things were less political. People are stupid that's always going to be the case. Everyone is garbage and worthless but it would be nice to get along for a lil bit and play a game.
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How can we fix 4chan. How can we bring back the glory days?
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>>81566019
fuck off newfag
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>>81566636
Permaban poltards outside /pol/.
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>>81566636
ban posting and browsing from cellphones
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>>81566636
Honestly? I think a good first step would be to remove (You)s and reply links from posts. A good amount of performative posting and groupthink would die down if people didn't get immediate validation for it the way they do now. It's a lot harder to ignore trolls when every reply effectively puts up a little sign saying "Here, look at this!".
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>>81566805
>companies keep inserting overt politics into their products
>REEEEE WHY ARE YOU DISCUSSING POLITICS INSTEAD OF THE PRODUCT
Ok retard.
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>>81566936
>the /pol/tard is outing himself
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>>81566955
Do you have any other retorts other than namecalling or will you continue to be a cuck for corporations?
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>>81566995
Not him but I really wish there were two distinct environments for discussing politics vs. discussing the actual hobby's ins and outs.
Yes there's a political element that is inevitably tied to everything today and very slimy people pushing agendas, but there is value in simply enjoying a hobby. There should unironically be tranny hate generals where all the news are discussed, and just like coomershit thread contain the discussion.
But sadly it's impossible to discuss anything without derailment so it's probably a losing battle.
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>>81566995
If you don't want companies to insert politics in the product maybe just maybe try to not discuss politics in the /tg/ board. Also what politics are you addressing? And in what pages of what book are they?
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>>81566955
he's not ENTIRELY wrong, politics or at the very least the stereotypical followers of said politics have definitely affected some media, even broad things like people who refuse to play (or even devs allowing you to play in vidya) bad guy factions for fear of becoming """crypto-fash"""
That said, people have become autistically oversensitive to these things on both sides, and given there was no prompt to connect
>ban /pol/fags
to
>you should discuss politics cuck
I feel like we've found an example of that
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>>81567074
>he's not ENTIRELY wrong, politics or at the very least the stereotypical followers of said politics have definitely affected some media, even broad things like people who refuse to play (or even devs allowing you to play in vidya) bad guy factions for fear of becoming """crypto-fash"""
I agree on a general term with you. But your example simply can't be applied in a hobby where there is no limit on which things you can do or play. If we're talking about TTRPGs then each GM will have its philosophy and each GM can decide which things to implement and which not. For example: you don't like the variable ASI in Tasha? Don't use it. It's that simple. We're not talking about vidyas where everything is scripted anon. Event if you don't like a GW politics about let's say female SM just play with your friends and don't consider whatever the company says. It's sad that I have to write these things on this kind of board
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>>81567152
The political problem applies to everything including individual things like literature because they now only give awards to woke minorities and they're openly burning books and "reviewing" the Western classics because they're "too white".
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>>81567278
Ok senpai. How does it relate to anything I've said in the previous post? Will the faggot police bash in your house and make you play the LGBTQIA+ approved TTRPG in which all the players are dumb and lobotomized niggers just like you?
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>>81567345
>>81567152
If there is no pushback then leftist idpol will proliferate even more freely
Bury your head in the sand now if you want, but in a few years when you get branded a racist and doxxed for playing a "far-right" game like D&D 3e you'll have only yourself to blame
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>>81567386
What about quitting your polfaggotry didn't you understand.
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>>81567345
>Will the faggot police bash in your house and make you play the LGBTQIA+ approved TTRPG
it's getting closer and closer to that
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>>81567615
how about going back to discord and dilating with your raid buddies?
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>>81554496
It's almost like you're looking at a silly concept meant to illustrate a complex idea in an extreme way.
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>>81567670
Seems pretty clear to me, it's a snake with two heads, two tails and a bifurcated body.
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>>81567615
>people have been calling TSR D&D racist and sexist and problematic for years now
>they've already started chipping away at WOTC D&D starting last year
>WOTC already caved to them and will alter 5.5 to cater to them
>"p-polfaggotry"
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What were the people like back then?
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>>81568102

A lot more playful with trolls that bothered to put the effort in.

Horny hadn't been as perfectly encapsuled by the Coomer moniker so thinly veiled fetish threads got Quests even.

Plenty of "Lurk Moar Before Typing" as the "Seethe Dilate YWNBAW" kneejerk reactions. More a demand to understand the interior board culture than be seen reacting to something outside of it. Took me a few years before I was willing to interact with the board and that was mostly for Quest threads.

There was also a lot of image reaction personalities like SergalFag and the GoldenNeckbeard.
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For a long while back in like 2006 /tg/ was legit 100% unironically into "Sergals" which was some random autistic chinese guy's custom edgelord furry race. I'm talking sergal space marine chapters and sergal quests etc. Sad era for /tg/ but it's not much better now with all the Dragon Mommy and "beastfolk" coomer shit
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>>81540805
>'ve been on this site 18 years coming november. A lot of things changed. It was never good, but it was never this political.
t. never heard of project chanology
Try again later my summer friend
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>>81567035
the idea of a 'game politics general' sounds like a pretty good idea actually. at this point however I feel like all this political talk is either orchestrated, or people have become so insane they actually believe in the shit they write... and once you truly believe that your GAMES have become a way for companies to try to brainwash you into accepting trans people or something... you ain't gonna stick to a general to fight the demons in your head.
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>>81568647
It didn't 'perfectly ecapsulate it', it was a forced meme with a load of nofap faggotry thrown in and spammed by neo-puritan retards here who have never fit in on /tg/ and scream like soccer moms over things that wouldn't cause an eye to bat on old /tg/. In fact it's a huge sign of one of the reasons why /tg/ sucks now; a tiny handful of shitposters either can't resist fucking up threads or a bunch of politically/ideologically motivated retards won't allow anything they don't like on the board without it being shitposted to oblivion, while things like frogspam and the shit/freak/local/etc spammer get mod protection.
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>>81568773
They mere did it for the lulz.
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>>81564987
Too soon bro...
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>>81568773
Project Chanology was basically 'let's fuck with Scientology cos they suck and it'll be funny, lol' though.
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>>81566019
Actually fuck off newfag, I remember coming here in 2012 and getting incredibly giddy. smiling and laughing so much my cheeks and Jaw hurt.
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>>81565625
Holy shit I hated that movie.
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>>81567386
This. If there was no pushback, this site would've died YEARS ago.
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>>81566955
in the Kill Team general we have a dude who keeps mentioning "diversity" because Kriegers have all gas masks, shit like that makes me laugh.
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>>81569301
me too
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>>81567035
>Yes there's a political element that is inevitably tied to everything today and very slimy people pushing agendas

Are you talking about the pro-war agenda, or the pro-big-pharma agenda, or the anti-voter agenda? Or are you talking about gays and blacks and females in fantasy? Please tell me that you aren't talking about gays and blacks and females in fantasy.

>distinct environments for discussing politics
Fuck off, there are plenty of places for these twits to agitate for more representation, /tg/ isn't about that.

People like >>81566936 are the problem. Stop being nice to them. They only stayed because we were too nice to them.
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>>81567386
This is actually correct and wrong. Mindless outrage is pointless but making the site hostile to those that push idpol shit and lower quality products is wise.
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>>81569431
dilate
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>>81570734

Then why have you allowed right-wing retards to so thoroughly dictate the culture of this website?

>>81570965

Look at this shit. This is 4chan culture now. Stop acting like 4chan's decline is some kind of mystery, it isn't, you let the /pol/tards take over and that's all there is to it. Does any reasonable person actually believe that the people shooting down OC and shitting on everything are on the "leftist consoomer cumbrain spectrum"?

Right-wing retards ruined /tg/. They started throwing public tantrums in 2015-2016, and that got them kicked off of other gaming sites, so they came here and they ruined /tg/.
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>>81571137
>Does any reasonable person actually believe that the people shooting down OC and shitting on everything are on the "leftist consoomer cumbrain spectrum"?
Yes. Case in point, the most leftist-friendly boards that openly welcome trannyposting produce even less content and are even more hostile to anyone trying anything different than 4chan. Nothing comes out of them because this is the nature of leftists, they do not create, only destroy.
Sadly the pushback is only about certain keywords because /pol/fags, sadly, are really just the same as leftists, they are degenerate consoomers just the same.
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>>81569431
>>81571137
>reddit-spacing
>blames the righties for the decline of the hobby instead of the leftist cliques that are actually doing it
Ok retard.
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>>81571213
>theoretical leftist bigots on other websites

My christ. Look, the very worst thing that you can say about the biggest leftist bigots on the internet is that they are just as bad as the right-wing bigots who took over 4chan. That they are belligerent and subversive, which they frame as self-defense against the dangers of right-wing bigotry, just like how these very tools in this very thread are belligerent and subversive as a defense against the dangers of left-wing bigotry. That's what political shitposters do, they cry out in pain as they strike you.

This is a kind of rhetorical ceiling, it's the best you can do, but you aren't even close to there. Other boards aren't as hostile to other ideologies as 4chan is, and 4chan doesn't produce as much as it used to, it's gone from being the /b/ of the internet to being the /trash/ of the internet. In particular, the ideologies which other boards censor are the ones *founded on ideological hostility and censorship*, i.e. the very same ideologies that flooded 4chan 5 years ago and redefined its culture. The nature of 4chan encourages free speech, and that's why I'll probably never stop visiting it no matter how bad it gets, there's part of me that just wants to see the experiment through. But it doesn't look good, it looks like we end up being defined by the people who can't post elsewhere, who lack the basic-ass emotional continence needed to have and keep a screen name.
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>>81571336
The bigger problem is how the fuck do you stop this, in practical terms?
When your community is anonymous, it does not form any ties. You have to "come out" of anonymity which is a risk and a hassle. You are vulnerable to drive-by shit that harms your community. People can sockpuppet and false flag and they do it all the time.
When your community is pseudonymous or uses IRL names (makes no difference as long as you retain an identity) everything becomes riskier because bad agents will try to single people out and smear them publicly. The more you speak the more your identity becomes clear.
When you're working on something serious like an actual project it's almost inevitable to have a serious work environment without knowing people's names. It just gets so much harder to collaborate through pseudonyms.
I don't even actually know if as a site admin you can kick undesirables on an arbitrary basis without being liable to accusations of discrimination. The culture war seems almost inescapable.
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>>81571640
>almost inevitable
I meant almost impossible
>>81571577
go back to discord you slime
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>>81571336

I was talking about /tg/s culture (and, to a lesser extent, the rest of 4chan's culture). "The hobby" isn't declining, it's thriving among young woke weordos who want to make their own fun and explore their identities, and your grognard tears would be delicious if they weren't pushing good content off the board every fucking day.
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This gotta be false-flagging, nobody can be this much of a tranny.
Either way 4chan is dead. For the most part this site has become unusable and this way the objective of the bad agents that started flooding this site in 2016.
The way online communities are organized and our whole approach to online identity needs to change.
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>>81555040
Twisting a story or statement to shoehorn into a political narrative isn't the same thing as a work being written for that purpose. Your arrogant boiling down of everything into essentially two viewpoints is absolutely retarded.
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>>81571742

Anonymity lets you believe whatever you want. This is what old /b/ really had going for it, they were smart enough to understand that all posters are the same person and that personal ego is a joke in this context. They didn't even TALK about "sock puppets" or "samefags", if someone cared twice as much then they posted twice and counted as two people, and it just didn't matter. It was a great place to exchange ideas, but it was a terrible place to try to posture or win an argument or "change the culture", pissing into an ocean of piss used to mean something. And old /tg/ worked because it was a bunch of hardened /b/tards just talking about the things that they thought were fun.

If I'm wrong about anything, it's that I'm wrong to take any of this so seriously. Maybe I just need to regain the mindset where everyone is trolling and everything is a joke.
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>>81571742

Also, my christly christmas-cakes, what do you mean "nobody can be this much of a tranny"? I thought you were being raided by leftist shitposters every day? I thought you were being raided by leftist shitposters so bad that you needed your right-wing shitposters to defend you? You idiots will go on for page after page complaining about all the dangerous leftists you have to deal with and then you drop your fucking spaghetti when you meat a real one. This is the echo chamber 4chan culture has become.
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>>81571886
>If I'm wrong about anything, it's that I'm wrong to take any of this so seriously.
I think there's some truth to this. 4chan wasn't meant to be the last place on the internet where you could actually speak your mind. This is probably what broke this site so badly. It was meant to be a laid back place to shitpost and chitchat. What I said still holds, though, since this applies to all online communities over the internet. You can't escape the culture war one way or the other. If you go on mainstream site everyone is putting on a mask, like on Reddit. The level of conformity and self-censorship is absurd, every word is measured. It's actually stressful to be social with a pseudonym now unless you are completely in line with the narrative, and you don't even have to be a /pol/fag to feel it.
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Started here summer '05, started on /gif/ actually when it was mostly funny shit and rarely porn. There was a gif v b meme war at the time, and that got me into b, eventually v and tg. I miss ironic nazi larping from archo-socialist shitposters instead of actual nazi fuckwits forcing their conversations into every threat. I miss pre-/soc/ and pre-/pol/. I miss lurking wizardchan and making fun of the incels.
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>>81572072
>actual nazi fuckwits
You are literally insane
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>>81572091
>There are no white supremacists on /tg/
>No one on /tg/ sympathizes with Hitler
>No one on /tg/ wants to eliminate the juice

o.k. tool.
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>>81571684
>young woke weordos
>good content
Ok retard.
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>>81547579
>the agenda they're pushing is utterly antithetical to the spirit of old 4chan
"There are no girls on the internet" was the mantra of the old internet. The increasing encroachment of people who weren't part of the old internet into old or pseudo-old internet spaces or similarly male nerd dominated spaces was always destined to have this backlash. First came "tits or gtfo" and eventually it turned into this, but it's always been fixed on the same track.
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>>81572136
I guarantee that if all the genuine Hitler-loving nazis were removed from the internet, you faggots would still receive the same amount of hate for pushing idpol everywhere.
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>>81572224
Hey there man
>>81572072
This guy here
I just wanna talk about ttrpgs and be able to equally talk fucked up shit about everyone. But that isn't an option any more because it all becomes peanut butter and mooninites.
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>>81572072
One more addition to this guy, I won an Esh-Esh raffle and I still use the dice bag. Craft Momma if your still here I just wanna hold your gorgeous hands
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>>81572224

So even if you were right you'd still hate me? O.k. tool.
Social justice warriors and straight white male identity warriors are defined by each other, it's silly to pretend otherwise, but it's also silly to pretend that there are no nazis on 4chan. Perhaps you simply took offense at the conflation of straight white male identity warriors with nazis, and I sort of agree with that, but you also can't ignore the overlap. The mainstream conservative position is that conservative racists don't exist and are a liberal strawman, that's a big part of why the left has another aneurysm every time it finds evidence of racism.
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>>81555708
As a daily reader of over 12 years, yeah. It’s hilariously obvious that regarded rightoids used this board for recruiting into their pathetic cult and have intentionally attacked all culture and traditions in order to drive out those who aren’t them. Yet I remain, because I refuse to give it to them.
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>>81556039
You mad?
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>>81546287
Where could I find the files for those? I remember car lesbians was on the trove but since then I haven't been able to find stuff for them
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>It is in the compelling zest of high adventure and victory, and in creative action, that man finds his supreme joys.
I remember seeing this quote on an image macro here back in '08, and I still remember it to this day. /tg/ of old used to live by those values.
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Let me tell you all what happened here, from an unbiased perspective. Let me preface by showing my objectivity by stating my beliefs - I hate niggers, fags, commies and trannies. I also think Hitler was an immense faggotron, there's nothing more cringe than low IQ Midwestern crackers larping as Nazis, and such right wing sacred cows as m*narchs and dictators are only for oiling guillotine blades. Robespierre was right, and at the rate we're going chances are Mao was too, even though he was a chink commie and therefore doubly incapable of being right at anything.

Now that I have offended every possible kind of retard I could think of, back to the point. The collapse of 4chan is the rise of social media. The timeline seems to me very clear.

- Widespread social media adoption begins raising the tone of discourse to absurd extremes via normalfags being essentially meat-puppeted by algorithmic bubbles. Likewise, the exploding popularity of these platforms begins systematically killing off BBS boards.
- At the same time (circa 2013-2015), the last BBS boards (ironically under the influence of the same social media that killed them), begin to experience a shift in discourse, censoring everything to the right of the Gang of Four.
- People punted off these places (think RPG.net, SA, etc) have two remaining platforms to go - Reddit and 4chan. Unsurprisingly a lot of them flood into here. This effect ramps up massively as the 2016 election happens and creates a media phenomenon.
- Trump niggers arrive on 4chan and begin shitting up the place in the resultant flood of refuse.
- Their 'opponents', i.e. tranny discord users, also periodically raid the boards to bait them.
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>>81575179
What am I getting at here? My point is that, yes, a lot of Trump niggers and reddit no-fap incels have flooded in and absolutely ruined the site. This is true! But this would not have happened if 1) social media hadn't imploded every other discussion platform, and 2) if the media and corporate zeitgeist hadn't scoured the ruins off of anybody who doesn't worship niggers and troons.

I guarantee a lot of the pushback you're getting is actually from people who agree with you - we SHOULD delete /pol/ and ban every Trumpnigger. But they'd rather not admit this because they know that every other platform where mods got given that kind of power eventually also got pruned until it was 'Facebook-acceptable', so to speak. Just look at the troon several posts up ranting about how he wants to end anonymity. A possible, probable, death of the site by /pol/tards yet remains preferable to a certain death of the site by putting up with censorship.
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>>81575179
>I hate niggers, fags, commies and trannies.
>censoring everything to the right of the Gang of Four.
>anybody who doesn't worship niggers and troons.

This is one of the foundational delusions in your ideology. Rabid racists and sexists believe that they represent mainstream, uncensored conservative values, while real mainstream conservatives deny the existence of conservative racism and sexism. Conversely, if a mainstream website bans someone for spewing racism (something that healthy communities have been doing regularly since at least '98), somehow mainstream conservatives catch wind of it and get offended on their behalf, You don't actually agree on much, but you vote for the same people, and you blame the same people for your problems.

>tranny discord users, also periodically raid the boards to bait them.

I'm sure it's happened once or twice, but not as often as you think it does. What's really happening is that these people keep re-discovering how non-traditional 4chan culture is, and they keep getting offended by it, over and over without end.

>A possible, probable, death of the site by /pol/tards yet remains preferable to a certain death of the site by putting up with censorship.

That's the crux of the issue, isn't it? You people ruin any community that doesn't ban you outright. 4chan is never going to ban you, and I would never want that, so it seems like this can only end with right-wing retards ruining 4chan.



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