>The Mystery Flesh Pit is the name given to a bizarre natural geobiological feature discovered in the permian basin region of west texas in the early 1970s. The pit is characterized as an enormous subterranean organism of indeterminate size and origin embedded deep within the earth, displaying a vast array of highly unusual and often disturbing phenomena within its vast internal anatomy.>Following its initial discovery and subsequent survey exploration missions, the surface orifice of the Mystery Flesh Pit was enlarged and internal sections were slowly reinforced and developed by the Anodyne Deep Earth Mining corporation who opened the Pit as a tourist attraction in 1976. In the early 1980s, the site was absorbed into the National Park System which operated and maintained the Mystery Flesh Pit until its sudden closure in 2007.It has been roughly one year since the last major thread about the Mystery Flesh Pit (http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/73359891/). Let’s discuss any ideas or suggestions you have for the setting, and I’ll post a bunch of updates and new artwork in this thread!Learn more about the Flesh Pit here:>https://mysteryfleshpit.tumblr.com/archive
>>79354363I want to visit the flesh pit
>This 1998 edition of a Mystery Flesh Pit National Park Trail Map was first published in the early 1980s. Early trail maps were compiled from hundreds of individual surveys and measurements by spelunkers, explorers and eventually park engineers to form a more comprehensive picture of the Mystery Flesh Pit's internal anatomy. With the addition of lighted and air-conditioned reinforced tunnels in the mid 1980s, the park became more accessible to visitors than ever, necessitating the need for a concise, easy-to-read map familiar to any National Park visitor.
>Sadly, the Lower Visitor Center was structurally compromised during the 2007 disaster when it was “swallowed” deeper into the gullet. It’s still there, but tilted about 70deg off vertical, with large portions of the glass & steel canopy crushed in.
>One of the many lucrative results of the development of the Mystery Flesh Pit were tremendous advances in the fields of computer science and cybernetics. The American conglomerate Anodyne, Inc. pioneered the design and development of “wetware” computing in the early 1980s by harvesting living nervous tissue from the Permian Basin Superorganism. The processing capabilities provided by these living tissues were decades ahead of technology at the time and allowed Anodyne a commanding share of an already saturated computer market.>While the user interface of these computers were similar to other machines of the time, the resource requirements necessary to power the electrical systems as well as the living tissue life support systems made them expensive to operate, and almost impossible to repair without highly specialized equipment.>Following the 2007 incident which permanently closed the pit and plunged the company into bankruptcy, Anodyne was forced to dissolve its cybernetics division and related assets. Today, even late-model “wetware” machines are rare to find outside of computer museums, as maintaining the internal organic tissues of these computers has been made effectively impossible with the loss of the proprietary knowledge & equipment after Anodyne was shuttered.
>Coke Heartthrob was first introduced on Valentines Day in 1985 as a limited promotion, but sold so well over the summer that Coca Cola added it to their primary beverage roster in 1986. The defining ingredient in Coke Heartthrob was, of course, amniotic ballast harvested from special glands deep within the Mystery Flesh Pit.>The potent aphrodisiacal properties of amniotic ballast were diminished by heavily diluting the chemical before adding it to the beverage, but Coke Heartthrob still developed a notorious reputation for its unusual intoxicating effects. The taste of Coke Heartthrob was described as “Syrupy-Sweet” with hints of “Amaretto & Rosewater”, and the beverage had a light pheromonal scent similar to perfume.>A combination of increasing extraction costs after the 2007 tragedy, as well as changing cultural attitudes, ultimately saw the decline of Coke Heartthrob sales until the Coca Cola company decided to discontinue the beverage in 2011.
>If the Winchester Repeating Rifle was the Gun that Won the West, then the LaserScope “Anatomical Environment Multitool” certainly occupied a similar position within the history of the Mystery Flesh Pit. Though it was preceded by a myriad of similar prototype tools developed by early explorers of the Pit, LaserScope's 1978 introduction of the AEM was revolutionary in efforts to map and understand the interior of the Permian Basin Superorganism.>LaserScope, primarily a supplier of medical devices, was contracted by Anodyne, the prime contractor involved with the Mystery Flesh Pit's development, to design a portable multi-tool which would enable engineers and surveyors to quickly and easily cut paths through the dense viscera of the superorganism's inner anatomy.>The AEM remains a robust example of Cold War era engineering with many examples surviving to this day. A highly corrosion resistant alloy casing protected the delicate laser internals, while replaceable lithium battery packs kept the rifle relatively lightweight. An electric impact driver on the front of the tool was intended for the quick erection of stent frames to prop open small lumens, while an industrial-grade CO2 Laser cut and cauterized at once to create clean incisions through flesh. Though not intended as anything more than an industrial tool, the AEM was frequently employed as a defensive weapon against aggressive wildlife within the Mystery Flesh Pit National Park, being capable of quickly cutting through even the densest carapaces of intrapit lifeforms.>Many AEMs have found their way to museums and private arms collections, though most of the tools are still used by the Permian Basin Superorganism Containment Corporation, which continues to perform limited operations within the Mystery Flesh Pit.
>Often called “lighthouses” by seasoned hikers and park field staff, the emergency trail phones located along most developed trails within the Mystery Flesh Pit National Park were the result of one of the most ambitious subterranean telecommunications projects of the late 20th century. Conventional radio communication systems were completely ineffective at piercing the miles of dense flesh and bone which constituted the geobiology of the park. Over a two year period beginning in 1975, more than 150 miles of cables were laid, threaded and draped through the organs and tissues of the Permian Basin Superorganism in order to establish a reliable land-line communication network. While the Anodyne Corporation developed the bulk of this infrastructure – at enormous expense – AT&T was subcontracted to design and install the unique public call boxes most park visitors would be familiar with. Guests could use these “emergency” phones to call the Lower Visitor Center at no cost, or they could be used to call an outside number for a small fee. Though engineered to survive the humid and caustic environment of the Mystery Flesh Pit's internal anatomy, routine maintenance was required to prevent phones located in the deeper sections of the park from becoming subsumed by natural muscle actions of the pit. Today, it is unknown how many, if any, of these emergency phone stations are still operational, as the United States Dept. of the Interior has barred civilian access to the former park's many trails.
>The first step of any visit to the Mystery Flesh Pit National Park began at the park’s surface facilities which surrounded the Pit. For guests unable or unwilling to ride a gondola down into the park’s interior, the surface visitor center offered exhibits, information, and fantastic views of the Entry Orifice. A retail concourse with multiple shopping & dining options connected the visitor center to a 350-room hotel & conference center, while a few trails and lakes provided natural activities unrelated to the Flesh Pit.>Tragically, the visitor & hotel complex suffered substantial damage during the 2007 disaster and was condemned and left abandoned.
>>79354375You really don't. Some things are better left unexplored.
>The curiously-named “Amorphous Shame” is a strange and highly unique animal found living within pockets of flesh inside the Mystery Flesh Pit. The name was earned by the appearance of the creatures which seemed to be living collections of loose organs. In reality, Amorphous Shames have simply been shaped by the forces around them, in much the same way that contemporary domestic dog breeds barely resemble their wolf ancestors.
>>79354656Did digital computing overtake it before the closure? If it didn't I find it hard to believe the government would let a strategic resource stay untapped after getting a glimpse of what it's capable of.Though there's the off chance it was just left there because its potential caused frictions with other powers, I guess.
>One of the most popular natural attractions driving traffic to the Mystery Flesh Pit National Park were the so-called Gift Gardens. This unique geobiological feature was extensively studied during the heyday of the park despite the exact mechanism of its operation remaining elusive to scientists to this day.>Deep within the anatomy of the Permian Basin Superorganism was a vast organ composed of large bronchioles containing tens of thousands of “gift sacs”. These sacs were fed by nutrient arteries rich in materials such as polyplastics, metal granules, silicates, and even organic wood and fabric fibers. Through a process believed to involve neural tissues of the Pit receiving background brain waves from human activity, the Gift Gardens would “grow” various items and articles familiar to guests of the park, such as old appliances, childhood toys, photos of loved ones thought to be lost, and other similar items of immense nostalgic value to certain individuals. Analysis and thorough dissection of various items recovered from the gardens revealed them to be convincing, and occasionally functional, facsimiles of these objects, rather than perfectly operational copies.
>>79354860>As noted venteriobiologist & preeminent expert on the Superorganism Dr. Rachel Frost wrote in her 2012 book Unearthing the Unholy: Exploring the tragedy of the Mystery Flesh Pit :>“...[the public] had, and continues to have a mistaken belief that the Permian Basin Superorganism had some supernatural ability to peer into an innermost desire or longing, and that this somehow was definitive proof of higher metaphysical activity. The truth is that there is no voodoo, no magic, and no divine interaction. The Gift Gardens on their own are a marvel of the chaotic beauty found in natural systems that were ruthlessly and carelessly exploited by profiteers who were only able to see the world through the shortsighted lens of market shares and tourist revenues. It is fitting, I think, that finally they should be left alone and free of mankind’s interference.”
>>79354907>As noted venteriobiologist & preeminent expert on the Superorganism Dr. Rachel Frost wrote in her 2012 book Unearthing the Unholy: Exploring the tragedy of the Mystery Flesh Pit :>“...[the public] had, and continues to have a mistaken belief that the Permian Basin Superorganism had some supernatural ability to peer into an innermost desire or longing, and that this somehow was definitive proof of higher metaphysical activity. The truth is that there is no voodoo, no magic, and no divine interaction. The Gift Gardens on their own are a marvel of the chaotic beauty found in natural systems that were ruthlessly and carelessly exploited by profiteers who were only able to see the world through the shortsighted lens of market shares and tourist revenues. It is fitting, I think, that finally they should be left alone and free of mankind’s interference.”
> Scans of an in-room service brochure from the Resort-Hotel constructed within the Mystery Flesh Pit National Park, mostly likely from around 1998-2000. >The Interpark Wellness Resort was one of the most ambitious achievements of the NPS/Anodyne partnership and saw healthy attendance and continual growth throughout it’s ill-fated service life. This service brochure gives a glimpse into the scale of development that was occurring within the National Park, and should indicate the degree to which Anodyne and its partners were making fortunes from the exploitation of the Permian Basin Superorganism. >These sorts of items are hard to find in this condition, as the Interpark Resort suffered tremendous damage after the 2007 disaster. Structurally, the facility was built into the wall of the Greater Gastric Sea in the location of an existing ulcer and was anchored by hundreds of hydraulic rams and suspension cables. After years of neglect and abandonment, many speculate that the resort is at great risk of collapsing into the churning acid sea surrounding it.
>Dear Brandon,>I’m writing you back about your Career Report Project for school. I hope you find my response satisfactory; it’s my experience, and it’s all true.>I was 17 when I signed on with the company to work a full tour. The money they promised for 9 months of work was more than I could have made in a lifetime in any other career; I was a shitkicking dropout from Hobbs.>Most people already know that the real money is made in pumping up Ballast, but they have it automated to the point where you only need someone to babysit the equipment. What a lot of people don’t know is that there are a bundle of other minerals, gels, gases and oozes that are worth more than their weight in gold for their “Myriad Industrial Applications”. The big three are “Blue” (Blue Tissue), “Pearls” (Corpusite), and “Black Bone” (Oscuralite). Our rig was outfitted to hunt for pearls; great crystalline spheres that were two to fifteen feet wide, hard as diamond, smooth and clear as glass, with an otherworldly iridescent shimmer. They are embedded in different ways deep down in the Pit, and to get to them you have to cut, trudge, push and crawl through miles and miles of muscle and guts and cartilage and bone that are fighting you the whole way. That’s where we make our paychecks.>A full mining crew is 18 men (and yes, it’s pretty much always men), which includes 2-3 mining engineers, a medic, 2 mechanics, a venterial tech, 2 company men to oversee everything, and 10 hired hands like me. You sign up for nine months at a time, split up into three-month stints with two-week breaks in between.
>>79355002>Down in the flesh, your home and lifeline during those dark months is a Mining Rig: a huge machine almost as big as a neighborhood street, bristling with tools and racks and sensors and floodlights. The insides are tight and cramped: our crew medic had been a submariner for eight years and had told us that the sub he served on was more spacious. Still, compared to being outside the rig, out in the raw Pit, the cramped bunks felt like luxury. >Ideally, the Rig cuts as it goes, leaving a burnt cauterized path through the meat while also crushing and processing any minerals in runs through. In the real world, the Pit isn’t uniform, and you end up running into all kinds of “Obstacles Requiring Interventional Solutions”, or the brass up top decide that they don’t want you just cutting through certain parts of the anatomy. So you suit up and get out ahead of the rig to poke and prod and pry at a walking pace, 8 hours a day for weeks at a time. Rigs have big hydraulic arms that reach forward and push, lift, and splay open organs or muscle bundles before us roustabouts would go in and suck up or hose out any blood, cut tendons, cauterize tissue, rinse, and repeat. >Because the methods for finding thing like Pearls are based on shaky science at best, a lot of time was spent probing around until you found paydirt. When you’d find a decently sized cluster, we’d set up camp and would go about breaking them down. The Rigs have a huge mining laser they can use to free up any gigantic pearls or black bone clusters, but most of the time you’re out there with big tools to break them free.
>>79355020>My position had been vacated the year before because the hand got crushed under a tissue catchment “bucket” (think giant, steel-walled tray weighing half a ton used to catch slop and other meat before it falls on your working area), and he bled out because it took hours for an ambulance to get out to the location. In the nine months I worked that rig, I had a few very close calls to getting crushed. What keeps you from being crushed by the weight of all of the “body” above you is a mess of cabling and fold-out frames connected to a fifty-thousand pound counterweight. After an eight hour shift of “scope pulling” (meaning removing all the length of an endoscope pipe from probe line), I got a bit careless and was hitching my tongs to the pipe while the it was still in motion. The idea being that it shaved a few seconds per disconnection, and it added up over a long shift. What I forgot is that near the head of the endoscope, the pipe diameter changed by 2 inches. The rig operator was pulling full speed when the larger pipe came back, and my tongs grabbed the pipe and suddenly launched backwards. I held on to the tongs and it jerked me a couple feet back and I let go. The heavy tong cable went taut and the operator stomped on the brakes at the same time, and the whole thing was jerked to a sudden halt. The huge tackle block was clanging around the whole cavity like a giant ringer in a bell and buckled one of the support frames. Everybody jumped clear and we ducked and braced with whatever we could until the rig stopped shaking. It was probably fortunate that we were near the end of the pull so there was only around three tons of backlash when it happened.
>>79355062>Most of the men I worked with had some sort of permanent injury, lost fingers, blown shoulders or knees, etc. The more experience, the more injuries. Even in our suits connected to refrigerated air, it was more than a hundred degrees and full saturation humidity. It’s pitch black everywhere down there, so you rely on your helmet lights, work lights, and the rig lights to be able to see, and they all give everything a sickly shine. Working down there isn’t at all like working in a cave or a mine: everything is wet, slippery, disgusting, and miserable. Nothing is flat or walkable, and you have to fight a feeling of raw animalistic terror every moment you’re out in it. Men weren’t meant to be down there in the innards of a monster, but I figure that’s why the company pays people what they do. >I finished up my contract without injury and for that I consider myself extremely lucky. I took the money and got an education; most people don’t consider it exciting work, but you’ll never find a more satisfied accountant. I never went back there, especially after the big accident they had in ‘07, but there are a lot of stupid kids that still do that kind of work. You sound like a smart kid: stay the hell away from it. That’s my Career Advice for you.>Let me know if you need anything else for your school report.>Thanks,>Andre Martinez
>Photos of the April 1980 annexation which brought the Mystery Flesh Pit into the U.S. National Park System. President Carter, near the end of his presidency, met with D.o.I & Anodyne personnel at the entry site itself to officially sign the proclamation. Below, an aerial photo of the pit and surrounding site captures the scale of work that took place from 1978-1981 to develop & improve the park’s interior infrastructure.
>Q: Is it true that the restaurants in the Lower Visitor Center served meat carved from the living flesh of the Pit itself and cooked in its juices, or was that a marketing gimmick?>A: While there are hundreds of urban legends circulating around about the park serving flesh from either the Superorganism or any of the myriad of wildlife within it, these rumors are completely untrue. No restaurant within the Mystery Flesh Pit National Park ever served these items, for two main reasons: >1) Pit Flesh, as well as flesh from virtually every species found within the park, was and is notorious for its very tough and oily texture which is quite unpleasant. Even when cooked with a generous amount of seasoning, the mineral-like flavor of the fleshpit meat was a very tough sell to even the most adventurous foodies. >And 2) After 1980, intentional, unauthorized damage to either the superorganism or wildlife within the superorganism constituted felony trespass and destruction of government property. No vendor granted an operating license within the park would dream of invoking such a severe sanction for such a relatively worthless prize.
>Q: What kind of information do we have about pre-Columbian ritual practices centered around the MFP? Was any of that research able to continue post-containment?>A: The extent of our knowledge of pre-Columbian cultures relation to the Pit is heavily based on the few (publicly available) records of the ruins adjacent to the Entry Orifice. From what we know, there was definitely an advanced awareness of the Superorganism among local and/or ancient cultures. How this awareness manifested is unknown. Some scholars speculate that the pit may have been a focus of worship, possibly involving sacrificial offerings. No evidence of ancient cultures descending into the pit has ever been found, but this doesn’t definitively rule out pre-Columbian expeditions. The controversial discovery of early colonial Spanish armor within the sand gullet seems to dispel the common notion that complex technology is required to descend at least that far into the pit.
>Q: What exactly is a gasp owl?>A: Gasp Owls / Suckling Sprites / Bugguns are all names given to the same peculiar type of animal found in deeper portions of the Mystery Flesh Pit’s anatomy. They are very elusive and are one of the least-studied fauna within the Park, with very few living examples surviving in captivity long enough to study. >They are believed to be descended from an avian ancestor, though this is speculation at best. The name “Gasp Owl” is a reference to the characteristic labored breathing which plagues these small and curious creatures.>Many tourists and park staff would erroneously report having spotted the fabled “Marrow Folk”, when in reality they had stumbled upon a small brood of frightened Gasp Owls.
>Q: You said that some people were recovered from compound surface fauna. How many were ‘successfully’ removed? Are any still alive today?>A: While HIPAA and similar regulations prevent me from finding out exactly how many people even suffered amalgamation, It’s estimated that fewer than half a dozen ever survived the treatment process to recovery. “Recovery”, though, is a loaded word here. The “treatment” co-developed by Baylor Medical Center & the Anodyne Corporation was highly dependent on the nature of the amalgamation, and seems to have been most successful with combined masses containing only human tissue. >The procedure for treatment involved removing the brain and as much of the spinal cord as possible from the amalgamation. When possible, extraction of other organs such as eyes, cochlear tissues, tongues, and larynx would later enable the “recovered” patient a sensory experience much closer to that which they had previously enjoyed, since medical technology is even still unable to replicate the organic sensory quality of human sensory tissues. However, the difficulty and cost of this additional procedure all but ensured that this rarely took place.>Once extracted, the brain of the individual patient would be placed in a nutrient salve and connected to a proprietary interface and life-support system developed by the Anodyne company. A rudimentary computer-based system could be used to communicate with the recovered patient after several months of therapy, and in some cases individuals were reportedly able to use vocorders to synthesize speech.>It is unknown how many (if any) of these individuals are still living today.
>>79355289That came out of left field. Any information about what this is all about? Cause, etc?
>Q: Is Anodyne still operational? (the company)>A: Anodyne was formally dissolved in 2009 following its bankruptcy filings, with its remaining debts and liquidation being managed by the reorganized Permian Basin Recovery Corporation. Through nebulous political machinations, the Permian Basin Recovery Corporation was awarded an exclusive and indefinite contract to oversee the management of the Superorganism Containment Project. Today, the PBRC continues many of the same extraction operations that the Anodyne Corporation did before 2007…
>>79355328This is a reference to amalgamation, a poorly-understood process by which surface life forms could combine with one another while inside the pit.But fear not, you chances of encountering a shambling pile of human flesh that moans in agony while visiting the pit are really relatively slim, all things considered.
>>79355438Thanks. Very cool. The unanswered mysteries about this whole thing have been killing me for years. This is way more info than I've ever seen about it, and it just raises more questions. Most excellent.
Is the novel any good? Anybody read it?
>>79354363There was a movie that came out called Final Prayer/Borderlands that is relevant to this thread in that it might make for an interesting way to spin this idea/setting. I won't spoil why, but it's not too bad in terms of found footage-style horror movies.
As a heads up, I have plenty more, but I may be slow to post.>This info kiosk was originally installed in the “exhibit” section of the lower visitor center and was one of many displays intended to educate guests about specific aspects of the Mystery Flesh Pit National Park, in this case the variety of personnel types that might be encountered during a visit. The color palette is reflective of the mid-90s renovation to the lower visitor center which aimed to create a much more clean, professional and family friendly presentation to the entire experience. At it’s peak, between 200 and 500 public and private personnel would have been active within the park at any given time, with additional hundreds outside of the park acting in support roles.
>Q: In the Incident Report, you mention extremities surfacing near the orifice. Can you elaborate on what the limbs looked like?>A: The event was very traumatic to the people living in and around central west Texas and was documented in a variety of ways. Of particular merit is the painting entitled “Limb Rising Near Midland” from 2015, which depicts a striking portrayal of one of the limb extremities of the superorganism emerging during the early morning of July 5th, 2007. While the event happened at night, the scale and destruction captured in the painting is reflective of the tragedy as felt by those who lived through it.
>>79355510There's a novel?
W-what exactly is it
>Unfortunately only the cover could be photographed, but these very large series of D.o.E. reports seem to suggest a very intensive investigation into the feasibility of using nuclear weapons to kill the permian basin superorganism, and the conclusion seems to be a resounding “no”.
>>79355559Yeah, apparently there's like a literal 200k word fanfiction set in the flesh pit. Idk if it's any good though, wanted to see if anyone had heard of it before I made that commitment.
Complete 2007 Mystery Flesh Pit Disaster Investigation: https://imgur.com/a/YBtuxTW
>>79355625Can you be less of an unhelpful cocksmoker and link it you fag
>Q: After the disaster were the emergency phones still working? If so could they be called or called from still?>A: Yes, after the 2007 catastrophe, efforts were made to re-establish a communications network within the Mystery Flesh Pit which included the many trail emergency phones, though the greater percentage of them have remained unused since 2007 and have likely been overtaken by growth.
>Q: what are the stories behind some of the memorial sites found in the park, such as the Gatti Circus Tragedy memorial, and the Fred J. Agnich memorial dam?>A: The Circus Gatti Tragedy Memorial commemorates the 1976 tragedy in which the traveling entertainment group Circus Gatti was scheduled to perform a daring high-wire stunt show directly above the then under-reinforced entry orifice as part of a publicity stunt. During the performance, several chimpanzees, which had been scheduled to perform, became panicked to the point of disrupting an ongoing routine by a troupe of clown stunts-people.>While the soft flesh of the pit throat cushioned the performers fall, an unexpected stretching of the moisture crops allowed them to slide down into a then-unreinforced area of the pit.>Rescue personnel were able to locate the performers inside a digestive sac a few hours later, but by that time, all 50 stunts-people had already begun being digested by the pit. Rescue personnel cut them out, correctly guessing that many were still alive. An experimental antacid spray was discharged on top of the gooey, shrieking mound, but it was too late.>Instead of reducing the acidic effects on the partially-digested bodies of the performers, the experimental compound flash-calcified into the “Circus Clown Chymus” formation that appears on the trail today. The Memorial was constructed in 1986 to commemorate the 10-year anniversary of their deaths.>The Fred J. Agnich memorial dam was so named to commemorate the legacy of Texas Statesman Fred J. Agnich, a vocal proponent of the Texas State Parks.
>>79355692Thank you. This is actually pretty good. faggot
>>79355744>Has there ever been any commentary or attempts at intervention from PETA or similar animal rights groups regarding potential harm & suffering done to the Permian Basin Superorganism, either before or after the incident?”>One would expect a high degree of controversy over the exploitation of the Pit from a myriad of animal rights activists, but historically this has not been the case. Small protests and short-lived action groups did exist sporadically during the history of the park’s operation but never gained much national traction. Some attribute this to the general obscurity and unfamiliarity the general public had with the park despite the global industrial involvement. Of course, in the months following the incident in 2007, there were a litany of protests and criticisms from groups such as PETA and WWF, but these were among many hundreds of other protests and demonstrations from a variety of interests and were quickly lost in the frenzy.
>>79355844>Q: In the final incident report, it is recommended that the nutrients in the superorganism’s stomach is replaced with rocks to weaken it while preventing a hunger response. Do we know how long it can go without eating? Isn’t there a risk, along with the other containment measures, that the organism is killed?”>A: Even today, the full metabolic process of the Permian Basin Superorganism is considered to be poorly understood. What is known is that its metabolic rate is incredibly slow, with a hybrid diet primarily consisting of subterranean hydrocarbon deposits which it slowly digests and converts to energy. This is a very efficient method of producing the caloric energy necessary to provide the Mystery Flesh Pit with energy but does not account for the intake of specific organic components necessary in cellular reproduction and growth. Thousands of tons of bones and shells of prehistoric sea organisms have been found un-digested at the bottom of the greater gastric sea within the Pit, suggesting that the Superorganism does exercise some kind of feeding cycle, though research into this is still ongoing.
>Q: Rumors of religious facilities built within the pit?”>A: A non-denominational, interfaith chapel was added during the 1995 renovations to the Lower Visitor Center. It primarily exists for staff who may be working for extended periods within the Pit, with regular services conducted on Fridays, Saturdays, Sundays, and on religious holy days. Of course, guests are invited to visit the chapel as well, and many visitors enjoy the quiet and tranquil atmosphere created by the space. >I don’t have many details on it, but the “Contingency Measure” facility referenced in the 2007 Disaster Overview Report was designated as a “Ecclesiastical/Religious Observance” facility in a 1998 GSA construction budget report. Make of that what you will.
>Q: how did the park and superorganism deal with visitors polluting the place? stuff like littering, oil spills, etc”>A: Like all national parks, most visitors to the Mystery Flesh Pit had little regard for properly disposing of garbage and would frequently leave trash wherever they were standing. Within enclosed trails and facilities this was easily dealt with through an active janitorial staff. On natural trails it was more difficult to track down, as the cilia and mucosal action of many parts of the Pit’s anatomy would “dispose” of trash before park staff could identify. Where all of this trash went, and what it’s long-term affect will be, is just one of the many mysteries of the Mystery Flesh Pit.>A much more pressing problem to park administration was emissions from diesel engines found in vehicles, equipment and generators. While the tissues of the Pit are surprisingly adept at absorbing the soot and particulate contaminates through aforementioned cilia and mucus, the CO2 exhaust from engines required a complex and expensive to maintain ventilation system in very deep or constricted parts of the anatomy where airflow was not feasible or even possible. Still, mining operations often found it more cost-effective to either rotate labor crews out on timed intervals to avoid CO2 poisoning, or would utilize the in-built air systems of the protective safety suits they were already wearing.>Oil was just kind of dumped wherever.
>This chart, and many others like it, were produced by the Park Service as an educational tool for use in classrooms, museums and universities. Popular among natural history enthusiasts, the illustrations featured on these posters were the result of intensive expeditions and surveys into the Mystery Flesh Pit. While visitors are almost certain to encounter common fauna such as the myriad of Macrobacteria subspecies, many organisms such as the Venous Shamble and Abyssal Copepod tend to evade trails and high-traffic areas, making them difficult to spot. As a practical tool, these illustrations were useful in training Wildlife Management rangers in proper firearm techniques for safely dispatching a dangerous organism. For this reason, the designers of this and other charts attempted to represent the scale of the organisms in relation to each other as accurately as possible.
>Q: I just read that the ranger traversal vehicle uses some form of X-ray as a means of navigation, would the x-rays not be harmful to flesh within the pit? Are there any known cases of things like cancer or sickness developing in/on the pit?”>A: Despite the volume of X-Ray and Microwave radiation being emitted within and through the pit, any such negative effects of their use have not been observed. It is believed that, relative to the estimated size of the Permian Basin Superorganism, the amount of radiation introduced by human activity is relatively inconsequential to the overall health of the Pit.
>Q: Assuming there were sometimes human amalgamations, or humans involved in an amalgamation, was there any way they could be helped, or were they S.O.L.?”>A: An experimental and highly secretive medical procedure was pioneered by Anodyne-sponsored research scientists as Baylor Medical Center in the late 1980s which, on at least a handful of occasions was able to “recover” a person from amalgamation. The process essentially boiled down to five steps:>1. Identifying which organs/tissues within the amalgamation were human, and if more than one human, which organs/tissues had differing DNA sequencing.>2. Carefully removing as many organs as possible from the main Amalgamation, with the brain being given highest priority. In cases where the brain was damaged or even partially fused, the procedure could not continue.>3. Stabilizing the extracted intact organs, with brain priority, and allowing them to heal in a proprietary chemical solution derived from Ballast.>4. The brain, and any other extracted organs, would each be placed into a respective life support module before being connected together.
>>79356299>5. Through a rudimentary DOS-based machine/brain interface, it was possible through therapy to establish contact with the “person”, who often retained full memory and mental cognizance. With training, the person could even develop some semblance of a quality of life through the use of cameras, microphones, text-to-speech vocalizers, and in a few cases mechanical prosthetics such as armatures or ambulatory life support equipment racks.>It’s important to note here though that, despite the claims Anodyne made at the time at Pharmaceutical trade expos, the quality of life of these “cyborgs” was horrific and incredibly expensive for family members to maintain. The full procedure, if even possible, often ballooned into costs exceeding several million dollars to perform, with the end result being a room-sized nest of life support plumbing and boxy beige computer equipment prone to overheating. When the company was dissolved in 2008, much of this research became property of the U.S. Government, which has repeatedly rejected my FOIA requests for more information on this issue.
>Q: Are there any Jumanos, Apache, or Comanche (the American Indian peoples native to the surrounding area) folk tales or oral histories concerning the super-organism?”>A: There is a fascinating legend from the nearby Caddo people by the name of “Sacred Medicine Water”, which I will reproduce here:>“The favor of the Great Spirit rested on the abundant forest, flowers, songbirds, and small animals of these quiet hills. Then a fierce dragon devastated the land, bringing disease and hunger and hatred and greed on the people. >The Indian Nations pleaded with the Great Spirit to subdue the dragon into a deep slumber, and the might of all the heavenly forces contrived to bury it under the world, where it shakes the Earth even today. >Once the Great Spirit had vanquished the dragon, he caused pure water to gush up through the Earth from the beast and asked that his favorite place be held neutral ground, so all can share in the healing waters.”
So that should be most of the new info. I’m off to bed for the night, but will try to post some of the older and more minor things tomorrow. I wish we’d see some more discussion though! Anyone have thoughts or ideas for the setting?
>>79356569I'm certainly intrigued, but am too indisposed to spare much thought about it for the time being. It's definitely the sort of thing I wouldn't mind having as a thing going on in a paranormal agency sort of game.
>>79356444>that mythHm. Wonder if he's going back on the whole "this is a totally natural phenomenon guys" thing.
>>79355582God. The origin of all life. Some great and nameless thing we all crawled out of one day and will inevitably return to.
I love the concept of crazy ass supernatural things turned into tourist attractions. My favorite part of Jurassic World was when the park was running and the characters were checking it out. Any other examples out there?
>>79354363Sign/infographic/leaflet based worldbuilding is good shitI always think this (real) advertisement has something ominous about it.
>>79356498Like, 90% of my inspiration for making all of this shit came from ten years of browsing this cambodian basketweaving forumShit hurts man
>>79356809How old is that?
>>79356714There is some pretty obviously paranormal activity going on in the pit, especially with. >>79354860and >>79355289
>>79356162Copepods horrify me on a visceral level.
>>79356810It's a very nice project. Don't let the haters get you down.
>>79355591That just means you're not using enough
>>79355582Tiamat, Typhon, Leviathan or Tlaltecuhtli, according to >>79356444. Loser of the kaoskampf.
>>79357110We don't have enough nukes. We will never have enough nukes.
>>79356810>>79354363>Let’s discuss any ideas or suggestions you have for the setting, and I’ll post a bunch of updates and new artwork in this thread!Assuming this is the actual author.In many ways, a "Diegetic Horror" setting like the MFP is best when it's left undeveloped. The more it's explained, the less a reader's brain fills in, and a reader's brain is the breeding ground of many horrors. On the one hand, you're being pulled towards new updates and new content by a need to stay relevant and engage fans. On the other hand, each new update can (if not carefully managed) chip away at what makes the MFP a unique and cool project.I think the "Circus Clown Chymus" going from an undeveloped name on the map to a literal fusion of circus clowns is a good example. That wasn't necessary. It's a viscerally memorable name for an unknown gastrointestinal feature.One of the cool aspects of this project, and I'm not sure if it's intentional or accidental, is the light it sheds on actual real-world parks, hikes, and attractions. The "normal" natural world isn't horrifying because we're used to it. A 10km hike up a rocky slope to a crystal clear lake, with a trip to the sanitized and tourist-friendly hot springs when you get back down, is totally normal. Bears, squirrels, birds, fungi; totally normal. And yet, seen through the lens of the MFP, it takes on a horrifying cast. /Why/ do we think this is normal? Why do we accept bears and sap and vertigo and avalanches and ski lifts and recoil at the Mystery Flesh Pit?
>>793568361927 apparently!https://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/collections/collections-online/posters/item/1983-4-2314I actually thought it was younger than that
>>79357162>orI think you mean "and"
>>79357183We literally have enough nukes to sterilize the surface of the Earth several times over. This thing is contained in Texas. We have more than enough nukes to kill it. Never underestimate the power of a plutonium bomb.
>>79357227I'm not the OP, but the points you make are very relevant to my thought process in making new content for the MFP. What you describe in the last paragraph is a good thesis for my rationale behind all of this, and it makes me very happy to see that the idea translates.
I like the MFP cause its just such an obvious bad idea, and yet its completely believable what happens.
>>79357310Anon, the 2007 report concludes that if the Pit ever became mobile, there is very little that humanity could do to stop it. At minimum, the entire western hemisphere is dead. At maximum and assuming it stretches as far down as some estimates place it (deep into the mantle), would mean its exit leaving a hole in the crust that'd make Yellowstone look like a spilled coffee cup. It waking up alone would be a planetary wide extinction event in that case.The government had a whole fucking extensive discussion regarding killing it with nuclear weaponry in-universe and the answer was one big fat resounding "no". We do not hsve enough nukes. And if we did, we'd reduce the planet to a lifeless Hell and kill ourselves in the process. Take your HFY faggotry elsewhere.
>>79357379I just read, well skimmed, the report and I didn't see that part. Care to highlight the part?
>>79357412Here >>79355591:>but these very large series of D.o.E. reports seem to suggest a very intensive investigation into the feasibility of using nuclear weapons to kill the permian basin superorganism, and the conclusion seems to be a resounding “no”.On top of that, the Flesh Pit has references begin made to it all over the world, meaning there's either multiple or the entity is far, far, far larger than any of our previous estimations conceived. Nukes won't do shit beyond probably plinking off its musculature.
>>79354363>Flesh hole that bigImagine the smell
>>79357379>>79357470Not to mention that explosives are the ONLY thing shown to arouse it over the millions of years.
>>79357487 Why imagine? just ask your mom
>>79357341It was too heinous an idea _not_ to implement
>>79357341Capitalism gonna capitalism.
based. I love this thing OP. If you're the guy who made it and runs the blog, this is very solid stuff. Mind sharing some of what you use to make the images?
>>79357162>>79357259It's probably the inspiration behind every myth of a great evil void monster that's threatened the world in ur-history. Or at least the majority of them.
>>79359046Adobe illustrator for the graphics; I print them out and weather them, or use photoshop. some 3D modeling in sketchup, a lot of photoshop painting for finishing work.
This hole. It was made for me.
>>79359270>Junji Ito makes his interpretation of the MFPI'm sickened, but curious.
So far it all seems nice but I would get rid of the Gift Gardens. Besides "background brain waves" being a stretch, It's the one thing that makes it seem like the MFP recognizes individual humans, thinks, and attempts to communicate, instead of it being entirely indifferent and passive, more like a natural disaster than an individual.
>>79359675Yeah I agree with this anon
>>79359225I recently ran into the tumblr blog and have enjoyed it immensely. Their image hosting maims the small print of your fine creations though. Is that the only place where one can find these terrifying travelogues?Looking further into the FAQ at https://mysteryfleshpit.tumblr.com/ it mentions work being done on a printed book detailing the site's history. What might be an interesting angle is the style of David Macaulay. The in setting feeble attempts to make such a heaving impossibility palatable to the public might involve custom made commercial propaganda to be vended at Scholastic Book Fairs of the time.The alien abattoir cloaked in the colorful sanitizing disguise of "Edutainment" could also manifest in shoddy CDROM titles by the very same publishing branches Anodyne agreements. This is a great inverse of the surface wonder seen in those "Tales Of The Loop" scifi nostalgia landscape paintings. Yours is the sort of discovery one would make at a library's Used Book or Yard Sale, the haunting memory preserved in print of places better left alone and forgotten. I like the idea of the chain restaurants needing specialized handbooks or handed down managerial lore to keep their places running profitably in the Lower Visitor Center.
>>79359793Yes, migrating to a better hosting arrangement is a priority for sometime this fall. With more control of the layout I'm thinking of organizing it closer to an early web/geocities aesthetic with much more minimal styling.
>>79359675>>79359768The Gift Gardens are really just it having us get rid of its waste for it, according to the author. That it might benefit us somewhat (reminder that the MFP/Permian Basin Superorganism already displays psychic phenomena, people are literally compelled to go back into it to die) is just a coincidental byproduct it it structuring its excreta in a way that appeals to our sensibilities.
What the fuck is going on in this thread?
>>79359946>oil drillers in the 1970s poking around west texas for oil>blood starts shooting out of a well>turns out they hit a FUCKhuge monster/creature >follow a little cave or something down to a huge blowhole/vagina/mouth/???>dig out a quarry around said hole and open it up with hydraulics>pay stupid oil guys to go spelunkering with scuba tanks>weird stuff>start charging admission to tourists>find really valuable gunk down in it that cures cancer and de ages people and is addictive>national park service takes it over in the 80s>lots of expansion of mining and tourism>and_man_grew_proud.png>2007 incident>build a refinery plant the size of rhode island on top of it to pump sedative down into the ground to keep the thing asleep>hope it doesn't wake up
>>79354907Why does this read like a cultist said this rather than a trusted scientist?
So what happened in 2007? Did it try to emerge from the ground?
>>79360845Some idiot's 4th of July fireworks were agitating it.
Is some scp? Sounds neat.
This would make a pretty brilliant addition to, say, a Delta Green game. Or Tales from the Loop!
>>79359946> links and explanations provided in OP> Anon: wtf is going on?Today is one of these rare day, when OP isn't a faggot. You, on the other hand are the worst kind of pidor, the one who enjoys offering his arsehole to homeless negro drunkards in the backalleys of Detroit.Homo.
>>79360845It nearly woke up because Anodyne were retards of the highest order.
>>793570624chan creates, Tumblr kicks you out and shuts the door while complaining about "gatekeeping".
>>79360845A cascade failure of a flash flood, said flash flood ruining a fireworks show on the surface causing the company running the place to extend visitor hours, the energy strain from keeping the park running while also upkeeping the active mining operation, and not bothering to replace old parts, caused the beast to hiccup, essentially. This caused some damage to the interior structures, but this also caused the park supervisors to shit themselves and inject it with a metric fuckton of sedatives, which provoked an even stronger reaction out of it, culminating with it spewing digestive acid in a massive geyser and trying to get up. A second, unknown fallback procedure managed to calm things back down, but not before 750 people, both visitors and staff, inside had died or had become trapped and presumed to have died.
>>79355336>Superorganism Containment ProjectOh goddammit this was all just some SCP faggotry. I'm out. Nothing good comes from association with that troon fiesta.
>>79361524i believe its just a reference no need to worry
>>79361524Feel free to leave. Nobody wants one of you faggots here given how you react to literally anything you don't like. You're even more prone to tableflipping and autistic fits than Tumblr and redditors.
>>79361564I just don't want to deal with that gay ass "shared universe" shit they love to do.
>>79361597There are multiple canons that do not necessarily tie into each other. You can pick one and ignore the rest, or read a single article and ignore everything else since it may as well be a self-contained piece. This has been a thing for over a decade.Besides that though, MFP has literally nothing to do with SCP beyond the initials for an organization in the universe being the same. As far as we know, the Permian Basin Superorganism is the only one of its ilk in the verse and there's literally no connections or hints to it sharing a universe with any other property. You are jumping at literal shadows.
>>79356810>my inspirationSo this is just an advertising thread, damn.
>>79361684We've had threads for it before, even before the author actually started posting here himself. In fact, I'm pretty certain I first heard about this stuff here because some anon wanted to talk about it originally. I missed out on the early rush of threads though.
>>79361707Which were probably just viral marketing by the guy
>>79361735If that's what you want to believe, sure.Why are you in this thread? There are some dozens of shitty /pol/bait, e-celeb and coomerbait threads to no doubt waste your time and limited brain cells on instead of shitposting because one guy wants to share his cool shit with this long dead board.
>>79354363>this ENTIRE fucking threadwow lad. I didn't take anything stronger than a coffee and still I feel like I'm tripping
>>79359225Great job man.>>79361753This, it's benign and I'm eventually going to pirate any paywalled content anyway. Incidentally making a contribution I wasn't going to do anything serious with anyway would be a joy.>>79354363I think petrochemical feeding layers were mentioned, much as spiders inject pre-digestive enzymes into flesh before sucking the slush up might the organism dump catalysts which have commercial applications in easing the efficiency of fractioning towers?Plenty of room for dealing with the oddities of pumping what are supposed to be inorganic fluids but which keep trying to form thick biofilms from what are chemically identified as pure hydrocarbons with no water, phosphorus or anything else we associate with cellular life in sight.Prions are also pretty neat though macrobacteria already have the "strange process scaled up" terror niche covered. Maybe the horror could by explorers realizing that vast swathes of what they think is degraded tissue is in fact susceptible to another slow wave of prion infection and alteration. The usual "miner who went too deep and sent back one message before vanishing" claimed there was yet another infection front further away with the boffins' optimism about something being able to kill it being replaced by the realization that its proteins have no "true" configuration or else it's effectively several distinct phenotypes living in the same flesh (like one computer hardware running several programs in succession).
This was fantastic. Bravo.
>>79361753>this long dead board.I recall some guy saying exactly this in 2010 or so.I responded with "fortunately enough, we're all necromancers here".Good times.
A Tzimisce makes his home in bumfuck nowhere for a little peace and quiet and what do the bloodbags do? Of course they start charging admission! This is why The Sabbat happened!
>>79354842It's simply way too much hassle to maintain it. There's also the fact that getting the flesh needed for it to function means venturing into the Pit, which isn't at all safe.
>>79354363>In the parasitic ecosystem of the of the pit the organism forms the bedrock of the trophic pyramid but is not the sole species consumed. In fact one of the main reasons to swell in the constricting tunnels is to become an inconvenient mouthful to "predator" species (see doc R6 regarding the mixed role of digestion and fertilization). One particularly novel adaptation to this trade off is to be found in the "splice snake", a serpentine colonial organism derived from an as yet unidentified vertebrate. The individual "thread worms" use their thin bodies to burrow into small crevices of the organism's flesh and exploit greater surface area for more efficient feeding. When travelling across open ground or tunneling through tougher tissues they undergo a process somewhat like a slime mold's transition to multicellularity. The larger splice-form (informally dubbed the "nope rope") is capable of applying staggering forces despite their all but atrophied skeleton, each individual thread ties itself up for purchase as hagfish do when digging into whalefalls while the group mediates these knots in a process some scientists are suggesting could serve as inspiration for artificial muscle research.
>>79356810Wait, this is your work, anon? ALL of it? It's pretty awesome.
This fills me with such a sense of unease, I love it. Mega based, OP. One question though: I understand "mystery flesh pit" being a soulless corporate name for it, but what would the "official" scientific name be? The Permian superorganism?
I wonder if the Moon/Tides have any effect on the Pit
>>79360903Guess where SCP and other fan projects come from?
I'm surprised a bunch of suits didnt try to make a kid friendly Smokey Bear-like mascot. Overall, good shit OP
>>79363192Permian *Basin* Superorganism"PBS" is an acronym with way more interesting implications than SCP.
>>79354722Incorporate this in some way!
>>79354842Don't forget government's still humans.
>>79356810> Shit hurts manNot at all.That's the beauty of 4chan/nel. Everything fades away and is inconsequential. No need to worry, no need to put much effort. Just casual exchange of ideas accompanied by swearwords.If you seek recognition, posterity, continuity, perhaps help - Reddit. Simple link shared on relevant board gives you nice scoring, if that's what floats your boat.
>>79362249Fair point. Especially after reading about the actual nature of the 2007 incident, it makes more sense they'd just opt to leave it alone.Though I think I was reading that limited mining continues anyway?
>>79363719Question is which horrifying flesh parasite they'd use as a cheerful anthropomorphized mascot. Perhaps one of the fused nightmare chimera of outside animals as both something to cushion the horrifying and act as a gentle warning not to fall off the paths?Just put gore mining equipment and webbing on it and little hard hats where it has blossomed a cranium.
>>79365374There actually is a mascot.
>>79363192>>79363736Its direct scientific name is Immanis Colosseus.
>>79361735how is he viral marketing something he doesn't get paid for you nonce
Its interesting, but there is way too much magic involved for something thats trying to be realistic. Even a basic understanding of geoscience and the understanding of how layering works destroys my suspension of disbelief. Let me explain further. This thing is from the permian and it eats oil. For this organism to get in its current situation it would have to stay fully submerged in the ancient oceans as millions of tons of sediment piled on top of it. No idea what it would eat, as oil basically didn't exist for millions of years. I don't even want to get into the square cube law or the thermodynamics of this thing. Also how its full size is a mystery when we can use earthquakes to track exactly how big this thing would be, as earthquakes don't travel through fluid mediums.
>>79354363Does all of it exist in PDF form?
>>79366620>For this organism to get in its current situation it would have to stay fully submerged in the ancient oceans as millions of tons of sediment piled on top of it. We know that this I'd the case. Its gastric oceans are filled with the long-since fossilized remains of ancient sea creatures.>No idea what it would eat, as oil basically didn't exist for millions of years.Anything and everything that entered its body became food for it. It also apparently feeds off of mineral deposits, not just oil exclusively. Of course you can argue that there wouldn't be enough minerals to sustain it, but you'd run into that same sticking point in regard to oil. Our entire known supply of oil on Earth wouldn't be able to sustain it, not unless MFP Earth has many millions more concentrations of oil than our own. Which is not unlikely.There is also seem implications it passively subsists off of geothermal energy, which means it has a functionally unlimited food source on top of all this.> I don't even want to get into the square cube law or the thermodynamics of this thing.Then don't. If we did, this entire thing becomes literally impossible the moment real science is applied. Same to any other kaiju.>Also how its full size is a mystery when we can use earthquakes to track exactly how big this thing would be, as earthquakes don't travel through fluid mediumsThey already have some estimations on its size and depth (roughly 32 km or so IIRC). But ultimately we wouldn't be able to track how big it is accurately. It extends far into the upper mantle, no doubt deeper and its total horizontal distance is unknown. Given we have ancient cuneiform referencing the thing and people all over the world expressing knowledge of it, it is certainly incomprehensibly larger than what the estimations put it as.
>>79366847>extends into the upper mantleYou have any idea how retarded that sounds? Given the flesh is burned and cauterized by hand held lasers it would be crushed and burned WELL before it got even to the Moho. As for the geothermal energy thing, well how is that supposed to work. You can't just take heat and turn it into bioavailable energy and proteins. And if you use chemosynthetic bacteria then you're still not gonna hit the energy requirements of this thing. Personally I think it'd be a lot more interesting if this thing was dead. Like a cosmic whalefall with organisms adapted to the decaying monster.
>>79366996It runs on weirdness man, even the deepest exploration revealed that the similarities to other earth forms end in the upper layer of its skin, with the inner region being almost nonsensical and unknown in its functions. The idea is that this thing works in ways we cannot imagine. It's a damn flesh pit, man, I don't know what to tell you. The moment you arrive at a story about an evil company making an amusement park out of a giant gaping wound on the earth to show off your facts and logic, you missed the point.
>>79367059I want to like it, but I went to school to study pretty much every topic involved in this thing and I just can't suspend my disbelief enough to throw out literally everything I know.I'm totally fine with giant robots and kaiju and other such scientific impossibilities, but the moment geology gets involved my autism acts up.
>>79366996It only resembles Earth life in the surface portions. The deeper you go, the more bizarre and impossible its biology gets. It is fundamentally and completely alien in every way and our laws are not its laws.>Personally I think it'd be a lot more interesting if this thing was dead. Like a cosmic whalefall with organisms adapted to the decaying monster.Something as big as the Superorganism dying would irreversibly fuck up our planet in ways that can scarcely be described. Something even half its size dying would fuck up an entire hemisphere worse than we can reasonably detail. Even a basic understanding of how things decay would tell you this.If you're really so insistent on abiding by realismfaggotry, then we can just as easily say that the thing functions on mathematical higher infinities and Bos-Einstein particulates that lead to its internal dimensions and volume being greater than the sum total of all possible Earth iterations within a superstructure that encompasses a hierarchy of greater infinities that we cannot possibly describe, with its Gift Gardens drawing from an analysis of quantum possibilities enfolded upon themselves within the space-time substrate that human consciousness vibrates and resonates throughout. This is all in line with scientific understanding, even if theoretical and would be just as, if not more true to reality than any of your claims.
>Something as big as the Superorganism dying would irreversibly fuck up our planet in ways that can scarcely be described.Would it really? How many thousand cattle die every day? It's big, sure, but it's still local-feature big, not contiennt-spanning forest big. It's a volcanic eruption, and we deal with those all the time. Look, run some quick estimates for its mass and see where that gets you.
>>79365421Who would want to go fishing in a pit of stomach acid?
>>79367475People go ice fishing. People pay thousands of dollars to try and look at a rare marshland bird that's spent millions of years evolving to not be seen. I'm sure people would fish in stomach acid.
>>79367229Then go study biology and go bitch about the unrealistic anatomy of Godzilla, how fucking gay Pacific Rim is and why a giant moth would be a crushed under the sheer pressure of gravity.Jesus christ.You gotta get a better attitude, Anon.
>>79367639Don't forget that people also pay a bazillion of dollars to drink coffee made out of beans that a rat shat out
>>79354860>>79354907I don't like the gift gardens as a concept. The rest of the MFP seems like a sort of accidental exploitation. It wasn't made for humans, but humans can benefit from it (in unsettling ways). This seems trite. It's obviously supernatural rather than just natural (and weird). The MFP is no weirder, in a way, than a coal seam or a tar pit. It's just alive.
>>79367722Yeah I think at it's best the MFP is just kinda there as a weird oddity that just is, without much greater meaning or stuff like that.
>>79367690No.Just shrink your pit. It stops at the cambrian bedrock. Boom. All you need. Setting and concept is fine without all this lovecraftian nonsense.
>>79367451>Would it really? How many thousand cattle die every day?Your average grazing cattle are so much smaller and less expansive than the MFP that I must assume you have no idea just how large the Permian Basin Superorganism actually is.The Pit is only one of its many orifices, dug out as a tourist trap. The actual entity is incomparably larger to the point we literally cannot get good estimates to its actual size. Calculations run put what we know of its size to be at least 166 kilometres long and 111 kilometres wide. Making the incredibly generous assumption that it’s vaguely shaped like a diamond (which is not at all a sure thing given its biology and configuration ceases making sense once you go past the surface portions at some undetermined point), that gives it a land area of 9213 square kilometres. You can likewise make the assumption it's anywhere between 20 - 34 kilometres deep, using the exploration team delving 19 kilometres as a baseline.This still makes it the thickest, densest and nearly the largest Earth organism in fiction that I’m aware of. The Flesh Pit has roughly a volume of 184260 cubic kilometres and, assuming a density of 900kg/m^3 (lower than that of a human but still somewhat plausible), a mass of 165.8 trillion metric tons whilst being several miles wide. For comparison, SCP 169 has the length and width of an entire continent, but its total "height" (and thus density and mass) is limited by the depth of water it's floating in. The Apocalypse Machine (pic related) which is the largest semi-traditional kaiju that I'm aware of, is only several miles in length and height in comparison and is large enough to cover miles in each step (over 250 miles per hour), cause volcanoes to erupt just by stepping on them, create tsunamis enough to wipe nations getting in and out of the Pacific Ocean, stomp mountain ranges to dust, etc. The Machine is orders of magnitude less dense than the Superorganism, and is almost certainly smaller.
>>79360866fireworks cancelled due to rain>>79361022project harder>>79366089https://mfpgiftshop.storenvy.com>>79366847cuneiform was retconned>>79367475the fishing is in normal surface lakes. there aren't canon fish-derived pit creatures yet (except inasmuch as tetrapods generally are fish-derived).
>>79367451>>79367888Continuing this, literally all versions of Godzilla are smaller than the Permian Basin Superorganism up to and including the 300 metres tall Godzilla Earth. There are only maybe three monsters in the entire history of the Ultra franchise that are as large as it is, and all are spaceborne (with one only being longer than it is, rather than holding the same mass and volume). And all of this is from me making the overly generous assumption that the Pit is smaller than what has been stated (it extends into the upper mantle and almost certainly much deeper, with its biological make-up growing ever more nonsensical the deeper you go, along with numerous ancient cultures, civilizations and tribes over the world knowing of it implying its mass and orifices extend even further out), meaning it is most likely orders of magnitude larger than what these estimations place it at. The Apocalypse Machine's plan to set off the Yellowstone Supervolcano (by stepping on it) looks like a wet fart in comparison to what would happen if this thing woke up and started moving, let alone what would happen to our geomagnetic currents and the general integrity of the planet if it died and started decaying. The only creatures that I'm aware of that are planetbound that might equal or dwarf it are the Night Land's Watchers and a handful of entities from the works of Daniel Vega, and Im not sure on the latter. The former are based on the fact that a creature witnessed in one of the expanded works has individual minor appendages said to measure furlongs in terms of length, which equals to 660 feet with eight making up a mile and the Watchers are still said to be larger than it. Even then, I doubt their physical height compares to the MFP. >>79368082The cuneiform was never formally or directly retconned near I can tell. It's just not been brought up because none of the recent lore focuses on it.
>>79367722>>79367784The setting assumption is that the creature could wake up basically at any time and we die, and we have no idea just what the fuck it is. It's very much a cosmic horror story and removing shit like the Gift Gardens is the first step to defagning the entire thing.It's funny for all that /tg/ claims to work on concepts or want to maintain the integrity of a work or even just get "good horror", their first response to an author with a novel idea is to go "I don't like this, change it and make it less interesting".
>>79368174They're cartoon vampire fangs. SCP bullshit. "Ooh so spooky why does it make childhood mementos." It's not an interesting angle because it's not novel.
>>79368283Name one (1) horror monster or setting that utilizes a similar idea.
>>79368316Your concession is accepted. Now fuck off, because quite frankly your obsessive hate-boner towards SCP that made you come into this thread has worn out its welcome.
>>79368283Nothing about this is novel. There is nothing new under the sun. It's the Kraken as a cave instead of an island. It's a basic vessel for body horror. It's an SCP before the Foundation removes everyone's memories of it: half of the Old Cult Sarkic anomalies boil down to "spooky flesh cave". You just don't like one element of it and label THAT and not everything else as SCP because they're a personal whipping boy of yours.
Idea:Is everyone here familiar with the game Dread? It’s an extremely simple role playing system designed for a group of characters in incredibly deadly situations (think: slasher films, monster movies, apocalyptic scenarios, etc).The way it works is that every time your character does something risky, they have to remove a block from a Jenga tower. If it crashes, they die.I think a good storyline idea for the Flesh Pit would follow a mining crew, like the one described in these posts:>>79355002>>79355020>>79355062>>79355084The crew suffers some sort of catastrophe, leaving them stranded deep in uncharted regions of The Pit, surrounded with dangerous terrain, grotesque parasitic creatures, and limited supplies,
>>79366089There's merch you absolute stooge
>>79361684>>79361735For anyone curious, I’m the OP. I made this thread (and the one I linked to from a year ago). I am NOT “StrangeVehicles”, the creator of the Flesh Pit setting. However, I did contact him and said he should stop by the thread (which he seems to have done: >>79356810, >>79357320, etc)This wasn’t some VIRAL thing, I just think it’s a really neat setting.
>>79368174Dunno, just feel like it's more fun the other way around where it's dumb mundane shit that got exploited but it's just weird because it's a giant living flesh pit where a few accidents happened. But it's not my setting so you know, Anon can do whatever with it.
>>79354363Honestly I'm enjoying this old /x/-old /tg/ sort of shit. OP thanks for dropping thisReal creator if your about keep it up its good stuff makes me think of the Simon Stalenhag stuff. Its not as pants on head retarded as the later SCP stuff.Also the real horror is American Capitalism and disregard for human safety if good profit can be turned.Also the Giant Flesh Pit.
>>79369078Don't forget the unknowable horrors that reside within the Giant flesh pitCorporations
>>79356498Literally everything but.The wording does sound Tumblr though.
>>79368283I don’t buy this angle.I think the best part of the setting is the unique (and sometimes hilarious) spin that humans found this enormous, terrifying, inexplicable, grotesque, eldritch behemoth and turned it into a family-friendly theme park and natural resource.As others have pointed out, it sheds a fresh, exaggerated light on a lot of things that we take for granted.
>>79369306>Theme parkIt's a NATURAL PARK. Words mean thing, anon, and those two terms are virtually antonyms!
Mystery flesh pit was my nickname in college
>>79369622Mine was pussy bacon
>>79369306So long as we don't get into the SCP realms of "Alpha Task for Gamma can only contain it by killing 6billion D-personnel a Day via M4s with tactical underslung mincing machines" I'm enjoying most of this stuff so far. That "This big incredible thing during the 80s and 90s just sort of shut down and became irrelevant to the world" has strong real world tones mix with that something horrific we're just treating as a industrial resource and tourist trap.I think the "weird childhood mementos" sacs ring a bit too close too the generic realm of creepypasta, if you want to keep it maybe have it be like those weird cysts that grow teeth and hair and organs and its matching the dental structure or dna of people who have gone missing around the state or in the maw itself.
>>79370792>that last paragraph >not creepypasta
>>79370792We're already incapable of containing or killing it as it is. In case you didn't realize, the 2007 incident was just sheer luck that it didn't fully wake up and the only means to maintain its slumber are trashed. The next time it starts to rise, we're fucked.
>>79370973Yeah, its sort of like Yellowstone Park going active again or the Sun having another Solar flare strong enough fry our electronics or even a Magnetic polar flip happening. Except this is on a way worse scale and also body horror is involved. Its just there, you can't do much about it and you just got to hope it never happens and so far we've had close calls.That is part of Cosmic horror in someway facing the idea of total destruction by something we can't fully comprehend understand or stop and its not even aware of us.
>>79370792Well it creating cancerous cysts of people who have gone missing is creepy and leans into the body horror and some real-life body horror and adds the question of "Did it eat these people or did it grow these people?" instead of "oooh spooky it recreated your hulk doll that your cousins destroyed when playing American History X"
>>79365421His name is Caver Coop, just so you folks here would know. Here's a pic of him dressed as a vampire to promote an old Halloween event I wasn't able to go to because of my nonexistence.
>>79361470Also something about several hundred people dying in terror at once contributed to it waking up
>>79368174>The setting assumption is that the creature could wake up basically at any time and we diewhat makes this the setting assumption?
Maybe I am an old fag, but my appeal of the flesh pit is "Something wondrous and horrifying to us readers is treated as perfectly mundane and commercial by the fictional humans who ignore the obvious horror." and the part about "it's gonna wake up at some point an destroy humanity and also is hypnotizing them and reading their minds" is less appealing. I like it best when the super organism is just sitting there, and all the disasters are due to human greed and overreach provoking a natural immune response. It's interesting enough without the SCP-like attempt to make it more sinister and apocalyptic.
>>79371666At that point Satan, it's no longer horror. It's just plain normal and mundane. May as well make a bot on Twitter to post ravings about the flesh craze since that's all it would amount to: ravings about a world that's Literally Us (tm) but with an added flesh pit tourist attraction.
>>79368174The creature did wake up. That's what the sedatives are for.Personally, I see the MFP as a metaphor for misuse of natural resources: we had this amazing, mysterious creature we could admire and the irreplaceable products we could extract from it, but we bungled our stewardship and now what we have is a massive resource sink. Like Chernobyl, where people had a productive power plant, then some guy had to fuck around and find out, and now all those people have is a hazard that will get even worse if they ignore the maintenance costs
>>79371910The sedatives caused it to have a violent reaction that resulted in it puking up chunks of material that crushed people to death well outside of the supposed danger zone. They hardly helped.It should've just been left alone. We dug too deep and in our hubris tried to dig even deeper.
>>79369622Funny, mine was amorphous shame.
>>79371365How much scarier is the 'Scary Petting Zoo' than the regular petting zoo?
>>79372062You're thinking of the aconitine. During the disaster it was pumped into muscular tissues to act as a paralytic, but instead caused more severe spasms.After the disaster, a factory was built on-site to keep a steady supply of sedatives available to constantly pump into the creature to keep it from moving.
>>79369306The criticism was specifically of the Gift Gardens, not the whole concept. Whole concept is great, Gift Gardens is trite.
(Translated from the FAQ section of the “Espiritismo Brasil” website)Q: Is it true that Brazilian Spiritists worship the Pit of Flesh located in the United States?A: No. This rumor started because of the actions of the author Marcelo Luiz Teodoro Pirez (1901-1983). Pirez was an active member of the São Paulo Spiritist community for much of his life. He worked as a translator and author, producing many simple introductory materials explaining the basic tenets of Spiritism, in both Portuguese and Esperanto. He also produced an unusual book of poetry In Esperanto, known as “La Karna Libro”, which he claimed was the result of psychography. Initially, all involved (including Pirez) agreed that this work was symbolic, and described the afterlife in physical terms that humans could better relate to. For instance, it discussed God as having physical form made from flesh, and described humans as being embraced by God until they merged and physically became one with Him, experiencing everlasting life. The book was quickly forgotten about until the discovery of the so-called “Mysterious Pit of Flesh” in the United States. Pirez became convinced that these visions and writings of his were not symbolic at all, but literally referred to the Pit. He moved his family to Odessa, Texas, and made frequent visits to the Pit. In his final years, he self-published an expanded version of “La Karna Libro”, which detailed his new beliefs. In this book, he rejected all the core tenets of Spiritualism, including the belief in God and the immortality of the soul. He now felt that death meant complete oblivion, and that the only way to achieve immortality and paradise would be for humans to physically live inside of the Pit, eventually merging together with it. Ultimately he and four companions of his went camping in the pit and never returned. He is assumed dead. To be clear, Perez’s beliefs are completely contradictory to our own, and no Spiritists believe in them.
>>79371910I take it the other way; Humanity provides the horror.What you have is people relentlessly digging, mining, and cutting chunks out of a creature that's unaware but is unconsciously trying to resist. Things like metal stuctures holding tubes open, cutting of tendons and dumping of waste inside a body while anaesthatising the victim is pure medical horror. Putting myself in the creature's place produces a sickening sensation.Yeah, it'll eventually wake up and kill us all, but the fact is that humans are still a horrible fucking disease in this instance. The fact that all this is happening to line peoples' pockets makes the situation even more horrible.
>>79371365>bloodIs it like a donation drive?Are they taking it from the organism?Are they giving blood from people to the organism?
>>79356569Id love a story of a search and rescue team going in after the incident and finding the destroyed visitor center along with whatever monstrosity everyone inside had become
>>79372653>>79355692 has a part like that actually
>>79361470They thought they were injecting it with sedatives, but they didn't test it first, so 'thought' is a misnomer.Based on the chemical name author used it's a derivative of atropa/atropine, the active toxin from nightshade plants. In mammals, as the flesh pit is taken to be surprisingly close to, atropa is a gastrointestinal irritant at least and nerve damage/organ failure at worse, but atropine is also a drug used as a muscle relaxant, making use of it's ability to inhibit nerve function.Quick and dirty version, please note that there are inaccuracies so don't take this as medical advice.
(Selected excerpts from the The San Antonio Express-News)The ACLU and the Native Americans Rights Fund are suing the Federal government for religious discrimination, and it looks like an unexpected witness will be called in the coming weeks.The lawsuit alleges that the Federal government is in violation of the American Indian Religious Freedom Act, which guarantees Native Americans access to sites considered sacred in their traditional religions, because the government has forbidden all access to the site of the former Mystery Flesh Pit National Park. The park has been permanently closed since 2007, following a natural disaster that claimed the lives of over 700 people.In a surprise move, it seems that the plaintiffs are planning to call bestselling author Kimberly Harjo, who is a member of the Native American Muskogee Nation, as an expert witness. Harjo is best known for her 1982 nonfiction book “The Cave of Life: The Mystery Flesh Pit in Native American Myth”. Although the Flesh Pit was only officially discovered in 1972, Harjo’s book makes the claim that the Pit was once well-known among Native Americans, and that it played a major part in their early religious practices.Despite the book’s widespread popularity, it was widely criticized by experts who considered its claims to be speculative and without any convincing evidence. The current consensus among historians is that knowledge of the Flesh Pit prior to the modern era was limited only to nearby local tribes.The trial has been postponed two weeks due to new guidelines related to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic.
>>79366996>You can't just take heat and turn it into bioavailable energy and proteins.You absolutely can, there’s a reason huge quantities of life pop up around geothermal vents on the otherwise sterile deep ocean floor.
>>79354722I don’t know if anyone’s been following this whole controversy, but /pol/ has really been losing its shut recently over proposed legislation that would force owners to register LaserScope AEMs as a “destructive device”.Typical alarmist bullshit from that shitty board.
>>79371910>we bungled our stewardship and now what we have is a massive resource sink.Except they're still making bank off the place and none of the people responsible for the mishap even suffered for it. They just liquidated the company and rebranded themselves while reaping all the same profits. Sure, they lost tourism and merchandising, but without the public eye that just leaves them free to carve even more aggressively into the thing.
>>79359225First, I want to say that I am a fan of your work. Astounding stuff. The sort of hidden gem comparable with The Sick Land.Second, were you inspired by "When the World Screamed"?Third, supposing you don't know about it yet, perhaps the concept of the Jaws of Hell, plus Satan being compared to a dragon swallowing the souls of the damned in the Vercelli homilies, might inspire you somehow.
>>79367722Imagine instead of your tonsil crypts getting junked up, infected and killing you, your body naturally arranged the junk into a form a tiny parasite within your body could find value and remove from the junk from the crypts for you. Lazy nature would definitely approve. The fact that the objects just have an appearance of the thing they're supposed to be is enough to placate me retard rationality and sink back into the calm soothing flesh of suspended disbelief.
>>79363249Now you have me wonder if the Pit has any effect in the Moon/tides.
>>79372462We found god and the first thing we did was crawl up his urethra to mine his kidney stones and build a water park in his bladder.
>>79372670Nice, I'll give it a read.I know any sort of first person present tense narrative will probably end up as a pretty bog standard horror affair, but what I love about this setting are all the tiny little details that give everything so much more believability. I'd be completely interested in a "rescue party" type story that didn't even encounter a monster, just described new phenomena and causes of death in a suitably sterile, debriefing-esque style.
>>79373070I'm only about halfway through so far but there's a section where the protagonist is interviewing a survivor of the 2007 disaster and it's actually really good. Much better than I had expected going into it. If you can get past the whole muh stronk female protagonist thing it's worth a read.
>>79373089>If you can get past the whole muh stronk female protagonist thing it's worth a read.For a nosey journalist, an obnoxious "muh stronk female protagonist" is 100% accurate and believable.Fuckin' English majors.
Darkest Dungeon and MFP may be sharing the same universe if you think about it :^)Honestly, this is absolutely revolting (maybe as a compliment) and/yet at the same time I don't quite get the appeal. It confuses me. It is existential horror in it's most base form - "what if real life but you are an insignificant bacterium compared to this huge Thing", also people being retarded exploiters about it. It's effective, like a hammer, but leaves a bad aftertaste. Maybe flesh/existential horror is just not for me and I should stick to normie stuff like werewolves. Really appreciate the volume of work that has been put into this concept, though. I guess one benefit of reading such works is that you start appreciating the world around you more - no matter how fucked up things are, at least there isn't an actual ancient eldritch beast of cyclopean proportions slumbering somewhere deep below in an undisclosed location......Right?
>>79373110Fair point. For what it's worth, she's grown on me, there's a little more nuance to her character than I was expecting.
Have they expanded this to other worlds yet, like having the Face of Mars be a similar organism?
>>79373141So far there are only hints that it extends out of North America, let alone anything from a different planet.The outside world in MFP-verse is supposed to be completely realistic outside of the influence of the pit itself, so no crazy space travel or anything like that.
>>79373123>I guess one benefit of reading such works is that you start appreciating the world around you more - no matter how fucked up things are, at least there isn't an actual ancient eldritch beast of cyclopean proportions slumbering somewhere deep below in an undisclosed location...Somewhere, somehow, a siphonophore is laughing.
>>79373261>look it up>title: AN ORGANIZM AS BIG AS A 11-STORE BUILDING!>looks an awful lot like a zooid, which can attach to each otherAh. The implications. I think I should stop further inquiry for now. It is several hours past my usual bedtime.
>>79366620>>79366996>>79366996If this thing extends into the Mantle, it could well be radiotrophic. It is also so vast that I can imagine a sort of evolution in which parts of it die or are replaced by new tissue with mutations. It could also absorb genes of digested prey like Rotifers do. It might as well have multiple energy sources.Not trying to be a realismfag, just wondering about the possibilities. For all we know, this thing eats neutrinos and shits dark matter.>>79367888>>79368113A Brazilian manga, Victory, has a demigoddess fighting pic related. K'athanoa is a Cthulhu-wanna be that is described as being thirty times as tall as the Everest.>>79373123Until we find a completely enclosed underground and underwater biome feeding off the energy given by a series of natural nuclear fission reactors, which became a sort of evolutionary arena where trilobites won by evolving into a electroreceptive superorganism which communicates through electric pulses and will be set loose by unrestricted fracking... No.
>>79373166That said, which space missions did and didn't happen is different between our world and the MFP's.
>>79373089>>79373070This story worth reading? 200k words is a big commitment for fanfiction.
>>79373705The last apollo mission was completed either just before or right after the pit was discovered iirc
>>79368614Sounds awesome. I'd play in it if you run it, anon.
>>79373724Every story is fanfiction on some level.
>>79373724Yes, it's good. Decently well-written. Kind of like a King novel in terms of theme.
>>79372953No way. No matter how enormous the superorganism is, its mass is still dwarfed by the mass of the earth and the moon.
>>79371666I enjoy the lost americana aspect alot as well. The ghosts of buildings and places instead of just people. Southern Gothic settings have the same appeal. The sanitizing of the whole thing through infographics and edutainment as well. The Clown Chymus in particular, with the implication that they just left the bodies in there as a landmark to be exhibited instead of extracting them to be buried adds a level of dehumanization to the horror on top of the terror of getting melted into a flesh puddle that makes it stick in my mind. It's akin to the Rainbow Valley and Green Boots of Everest, adding to the realism.
>>79372681Oh cheers that's interesting. Quick and dirty is probably the same thought process Anodyne went through in designing the death trap.
>>79373261Yellowstone is also laughing. Or a solar flare. Or a cosmic ray like the Oh-My-God particle. Universe is a scary place.
>>79354819This is new.
I want to bath in the amniotic fluid springs with some hot girls and get trapped in there and spend decades breeding them and slowly merging eith the walls
>>79372747Can you imagine being this woman, and reverse image searching this image on a whim, just to see your face associated with this concept?
>>79374954That looks like artbreeder, anon.
>>79374593This is a level of cooming that is too horrifying to contemplate.
>>79374593Isn't there an InCase comic that ends like that?
>>79356498Fuck off. Plebs like you are why /tg/ is filled with shit instead of interesting things these days.
>>79356810Seriously, was this meant for an SCP? Cause it's good, and reads like SCP material.
>>79376077Both are "describe creepy thing in extreme detail", but SCP is more about containment and secrecy (and an endless amount of crossovers). MFP is its own thing and is about making something creepy to us sound mundane by surrounding it with historical detail.
>>79375603Yes.https://e-hentai.org/g/1889911/8db2d0ec9f/CAUTION CAUTION CAUTION EXTRA-STRENGTH N.S.F.W. CAUTION CAUTION CAUTION LITERALLY PORN
>>79376927>URL literally says HentaiI don't think the warning is necessary.
>>79376399>(and an endless amount of crossovers).What do you mean when you say that? There might be both real and cultural references every now and then, but generally speaking, most obvious/direct references or plagarism gets your article deleted
>>79359270>anon's dick is so massive that the only hole that will fit it is the MFP
>>79377087SCP itself is a template for writing fiction: Classification, Containment Procedures, Description, then usually some creepy footnote. The setting has built-in dynamics you can re-use in any article within that fictional world: D-class experimentation, Amnestics, mobile response teams, scientist interview logs, even antagonist organizations. The site has become so large and so many articles written that the shared elements have become mundane. Take the whole "Doctor Wondertainment" fad, where a bunch of spooky toys were made that all came from a particular source. MFP feels fresh specifically because it's elaborate and detailed but also completely original and actively resists trying to connect to any other continuities or fictions.
>>79377440It also uses the blog format well. It legitimately feels like someone collected memorabilia about a now all but forgotten landmark. It has the same vibe as a Route 66 memorabilia page. Or probably more accurately an Adventure Town, USA blog, since that's another thing people look back on in retrospect wondering how the fuck anybody even okayed that shit.
>>79377440All of that is in the grounds of the setting. Wondertainment was created over a decade ago, to the point most people dont really recall the first Wondertainment article. It's no more a "fad" than any other form of worldbuilding. You can't even compare it and MFP because MFP only outlines lore in relation to one thing and it's effects on the world: anything else may as well not exist.I'm not sure why people on 4chan insist on making posts about stuff they know nothing about.
>>79378314> A Bright Light In A Dark Place> Meet AT&T's Newest and Most Reliable Public Call Box. It's designed and installed within the Mystery Flesh Pit National Park - Famous for it's harsh operating conditions for even the most robust industrial equipment. A video display gives callers step-by-step operating instructions in up to four languages, and a supply of clean drinking water and complimentary propane fuel refreshes and invigorates even the most weary park visitor. Oh, and it's built-in halogen lamp offers reassurance in the form of long-life illumination, even in the darkest and dampest of environments.> Look for these trail phones throughout the Mystery Flesh Pit National Park, and see for yourself why AT&T is America's most trusted telecom provider.> AT&TEnglish is a fuck, 410,757,864,530 dead grammarians
>>79373724I like the atmosphere and the worldbuilding, along with the guy she interviews, but I wasn't a fan of how the fauna immediately all become extremely predatory towards humans within 5 minutes of the disaster starting.With how dangerous the fauna appear in the story, it's a little hard to believe the National Park aspect of everything. They aren't on the same level of danger as a bear or bison, they're basically xenomorphs of a variety of sizes and shapes.
>>79378556People would still go there regardless. You underestimate the stupidity and greed of mankind.
So what was the solution that stopped the thing from waking up in 2007?
>>79378873Pumping it full of tranquilizers, apparently.
>>79378955No, pumping it full of tranquilizers is what caused it to wretch over half the state. There was a second procedure used using [REDACTED] minerals, likely mined from the beast itself.
>>79377716>another thing people look back on in retrospect wondering how the fuck anybody even okayed that shit.That sentence specifically gives me more Action Park vibesFucking New Jersey
>>79373589Even in that case, I would still argue that it's probably greater in total volume and definitely wider (again, its low-end estimate puts it at 9213 square kilometres which is something like 99168732000 square feet). It's less dense under that calculation but that calculation assumes it is less dense than a human, which probably isn't true.
>>79355665>Day laborers are smart enough to want nothing to do with it>Capitalists start cutting it open to see how it worksFucking white people I swear to god.
>>79378714Yeah but it seems like something that would be like The Zone, not a federally owned and operated national park.
>>79357227I think the Circus Clown Chymus explanation is an exceptionally well-done bit that adds to the overall horror of the situation. The clowns suffer a horrific fate, them accidentally being horribly killed in the rescue attempt becomes a small mercy in light of the information about what would happen if they survived, and then their mangled corpses are put up as a tourist display given comparable importance and solemnity as a landscape feature named after a guy who really liked state parks.
>>79371666SCP also started out lighthearted.
>>79379497I don't remember that phase, when I encountered the franchise it already included unstoppable horrors.
>>79374954Back in the 2000s when social media was still mostly a thing for teenagers and young adults, googling your name was a thing people sometimes did. When I tried it I found out I'm a bit character in a spy thriller that gets killed in the cold open. I was mildly amused. Assuming that's a picture of a real person and not >>79374986 she'd probably feel the same as long as she has a sense of humor.
>>79373110What is it that [CY] English Major makes people lose their hearts, brains, and ultimately, soul?
>>79379630people that get into English Major never had soul to begin with
>>79374593Every and all Wojak edits are made by and exemplify Reddit and its "that's you" mentality.
>>79378484>410,757,864,530>almost half a quadrillion
What's the cuneiform story? Shit like ancient Egyptians somehow knowing about the PBS? How would they find out about it?
>>79379582It did.It also had human optimism.That was until the invaders colonized the staff and practiced exclusion and gatekeeping against its natives - "evil channers".
>>79379741I would assume either it's just THAT BIG, or there's more than one out there. In there. Down there. Whatever.
>this whole threadi don't want to know. i've been down this rabbit hole before and i really don't want to go back
>>79379765That would make it stupid big. I dunno, just think it's a bit of a misstep.Amazing project tho!
>>79379765Unless it just has tendrils that reach across the globe but is mostly situated in Texas, the pit would end up being a nontrivial total percentage of Earths mass, especially if it actually extended to the mantle and still wrapped around to Europe.At that point we're just living on top of the monster. It IS Earth.
>>79379969That would be insane.
>>79367888For reference the estimated total biomass on earth is 550 gigatons. At 165.8 trillion metric tons the flesh pit would increase this by slightly over 30%, and would easily be the second largest category of biomass on the planet after plant matter (~450 gigatons) and more than double the next largest, bacteria (~70 gigatons). Something of that scale decomposing would probably have a substantial effect on the atmosphere, and you would have an unknown land area becoming unstable, or even collapsing as the thing supporting it went away.(based on 'The biomass distribution on Earth' https://www.pnas.org/content/115/25/6506)
>>79380026It absolutely would. It would also beg the question as to why none of the other parts of it have been discovered by modern science. I can believe a few hundred miles of middle of no where Texas is actually a gigantic monster that nobody knew about. Nobody would ever know until they had a reason to.Something like that going undiscovered anywhere in mainland Europe though? Not happening. It would have been discovered by now, probably far before the Pit was.That being said, Imagine if the MFP is the entire North American tectonic plate and the plates are actually all living creatures.
>>79368793Well done OP, I didn't know about this earlier and had a lot of fun.Don't worry too much about the autist screeching here and there, some retards seem to think that hating on everything at all times somehow elevates them. Pitiful creatures.
>>79371666I think I agree with this. To me the absolute best parts combine the stark banality of normal life with a creeping sense of dread. The background implication that the pit could wake up (or die) with catastrophic consequences, the incredibly dangerous creatures blandly noted through standard looking safety warning and scientific descriptions and the briefly mentioned possibility of nightmarish body horror all help to strengthen that, but the more they get brought into the foreground the more they risk undermining this. The creeping sense of dread becomes more about horror and disgust.I think all the new stuff about people being cut free from amalgamations really highlights my mixed feelings about this. On it's own it's really good body horror in it's own right. Both the amalgamation and the fate of the people who survive it, as well as the implication that those amalgamated and never found remain conscious and aware of the experience, is all nightmarish. The minimalist diagrams, and the way the company tried to sell this incredibly expensive half-life as 'cyborgs' also add to it. They bring in some of the experience of normal everyday life and it's bullshit back in, helping to ground it a bit.But on the other hand this raises questions. Amalgamation is no longer a distant, mysterious fate that people whisper about in horror and the audience is left to imagine. It's something that happens often enough that specific medical treatments have been developed for it. There would be photographs, news stories about the survivors, hopes that this could lead to future medical breakthroughs. With this sort of thing in the public eye, how do you stop people from panicking about it? Fearing it? At the same time how do you push the pit related industry into the background as just boring industrial processes no one cares about?
>>79380506(cont) So on the one hand a lot of this new stuff is very good. Lots of fun world building details and some very good micro-horror. But I think they run the risk of undermining the idea as a whole.It gives detail to stuff which is quietly horrifying, by making it louder and more explicit. It also brings the pit more and more into realms of life that people understand and care about. Super hard materials with vague industrial applications is fine, people know nothing about what kind of impact unbreakable lenses might have on the world but can also imagine it being valuable. Using the weirdness of the pit to make minor improvements to consumer goods is also great, it plays with the common experience of being advertised to without having major consequences. Things like the use of material from the pit in life saving surgery, or building compact super computers is a much bigger leap. People have an idea about the importance of life saving medical advances, or how computers have revolutionized the world. Having the pit influence this stuff makes it harder to buy that it's just another thing that people live with. It shifts this away from being a weird phenomenon in a recognizable world towards science fiction.On the other hand, on the off chance the guy making this reads this, I think your writing has improved quite a bit, and your graphics and visual design have taken improved massively. Some of the older images look like things made by a hobbyist, but almost all the newer stuff looks very slick.
>>79361524Get the fuck out. Stupid fucking /pol/ shitting up other boards yet again.
>>79380927What compels you to shit this otherwise pure gold thread with your whining, little one?Asking for research purposes.
>>79354363Great stuff. I've a few questions about some details though. Will flesh removed from the pit but nourished artificially continue to grow? Clearly the organism doesn't have a hayflick limit, or it'd be dead by now, so it should be able to divide indefinitely if given sufficient resources. However, that also raises questions about the biocomputer project. The neural tissue would be easy to cultivate in laboratory conditions on industrial scales, and the common materials used to grow them would let the government "build" truly massive supercomputers running solely on organic growth medium. There is no way they would just ignore such an opportunity
>>79381319The wetware computer implies that unless they were routinely replacing single use neural wafers rather than coming by as technicians doing maintenance.
>>79354363My god imagine the smell
>>79381389Put that'd have made commercial use of them as personal computers impossible. Not to mention that it is plainly stated that memory storage is done in MFP neurons. That wouldn't work unless the neural slabs were longlived and replaced iteratively.
Great thread, I enjoyed reading!
> Thread 250+ comments longGuys, is there some official site for this project, a compiled PDF or other ebook/presentation?I've seen some links to .tumblr
>>79381750Damn it... .tumblrs are pain in ass to navigate.Thanks anyway.
Another voice for the appeal of the setting being the grotesque made mundane, not existential dread (oooo it's huge ooOOO it'll kill us all one day OOOOO) or SCP wankery.Also if you're lacking ideas you're welcome to cross-post to /egg/ in /vg/. They're always open to bioclang.
I'd like to see a video game of this. It'd be like Scorn meets Decent.
>>79382131Descent. I'm retarded.
>>79368283>>79368309>Name one (1) horror monster or setting that utilizes a similar idea.>>79368337>Your concession is accepted.I imagine you've both gone off to shitpost in greener pastures, but he had already given an example in that very post. Solaris. A psychic planet that fucks with people's minds and generates their deepest desires as a way to try to communicate. In one dude's case, his dead wife, who is fully sentient and has to come to grips with being a planet-spawned hallucination. Read the book or watch the Russian movie, not the Clooney one, it's shit.
>>79382210Lazy Monday, eh?
>>79359225I love the national park materials you made, they're perfect.
>>79377034Never underestimate how unobservant the average spod on the street can be.
>>79382131>not a mangement sim about keeping a national park afloat
>>79382210There's actually two Russian films, there's an older, black and white TV movie from 1968.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1tnAyARsmA
>>79379969Which would also make it waking up the end of the planet as we know it. It would probably fuck a tectonic plate to shit as it got up, at bare minimum.
>>79380950Not him, but I could ask you the same question. Nobody gives a shit about your obsession with hating SCP. Take that somewhere else, preferably far away from here.
>>79384056It was my first post in this thread, dum, dum. And I specifically wrote it's for research purposes, Pinko.So?What compels you to enter a thread with so many replies and complain on someone announcing his departure from the thread?
>>79384097Now you're also shitting the thread with your own whining.
>>79384141Whoever had something reasonable to say had already left and the thread is soon to hit autosagging limit so no worries, my research won't damage a thing.So? Do you feel like shedding some light or you're gonna just dodge the question?
>>79384234I'm not the person you asked.
>>79384249Same question applies to everyone willing to participate in this complaint operation.So, truth or dodge?
>>79382081Seconding this. MFP is cool for the human side of the horror. Frankly I think it would be even better if the existential horror side of things was dropped. Maybe like the MFP was some threat to the world, but humanity long surpassed it in the ceaseless quest for money.
>>79384493So your drive to complain is autism.Self diagnosed, or you visited a professional?
>>79354363bretty gud shit anon
>>79355336Is there any artwork of the Clown Circus Chymus? Or the amalgamation creatures, first reading about the MFPNP and I find it fascinating
>>79383619That would be spectacular. I can imagine it now in all it's early 2000s graphical glory. I can just see the tiny people comically flailing their arms in terror when they meet pit lifeforms, or fall into some bottomless abyss because you forgot to properly fence of a facility.I can even imagine a bunch of the levels.>developing new sections of the pit (alternating between mining and tourism focused levels)>a couple of levels managing above ground attractions (for variety, or maybe as a tutorial)>needing to restore visitor satisfaction levels after disasters like the circus clown chymus>getting to convert the chymus in to a tourist attraction half a dozen levels later>a meta level where you make things look good for some people who want to make and educational game about the park for school children>having to restore full power and reach people trapped in a facility under a time limit>final level is the 2007 disaster, you cannot win>sandbox mode has all sorts of biologically themed disastersThat would be great. You could probably tell the whole story with a management game, from discovery to disaster. You could even capture a lot of the at a distance horror and pervasive greed.>>79387452I think that's the only picture of the chymus. There's an amalgamation there >>79355289. They're pretty deliberately low detail pics.
>>79387833>final levelYou got me. Man, I'm in.
>>79387833I would pay for this game.
>>79387833I love management sims and I would cheerfully strangle a hobo for this game.
>>79355336I first saw MFP stuff weeks ago and loved its depth and worldbuilding, but this part almost spoiled the whole deal, it's SO schlocky. That and the space-age meat computers, rescued amalgamated people being put in brain jars or whatever, and the whole [REDACTED] contingency measure. The latter is especially unfortunate because the disaster report really is the apex of the whole concept except for that one flaw.Chernobyl isn't interesting because the uranium got up and started walking around with a chainsaw or making spooky phonecalls to you at night. It is interesting for the multi-faceted nuance of disaster and the brazenness/flippancy of humanity, and MFP really captures that well when it sticks to its guns. Clown Chymus and the like just betrays a lack of confidence inthe basic concept itself being interesting/discomforting enough. What's sad is that you could easily have these wilder ideas anyway in the form of fiction-within-fiction, the setting already mentions movies based on MFP (I'd totally watch a Jurassic Park style disaster movie about this full of giant parasites and collapsing meat tunnels and the like).
>>79387833I think it would be cool if the final mission is just trying to mitigate damage and keeping it from getting up until the [REDACTED] fail safe is ready to be used.
>>79357379You will never be a woman
>>79354363this is by far the most interesting collection of fiction/art I've encountered in yearsI rate this 11/10>>79388288>rescued amalgamated people being put in brain jars or whateverI don't have problem with that bit - there's plenty of photos of Chernobyl and Tokaimura victims kept alive in absolutely hellish conditionsbut in essence, I agree with youbizarre bluntness of "the mystery flesh pit" concept is more interesting than the more cliche horror bits, but they have a placea lot of "Chernobyl lore" became somewhat fictionalized over the years. You can disregard the supernatural bits as urban legends inside the fiction
>>79368174>their first response to an author with a novel idea is to goWell, /tg/ isn’t just one person. The bitchiest voices in this thread aren’t even /tg/, they’re /pol9k/ crybabies. Leave them to their pity fests.
>>79379735It's an interesting number. Here's the prime decomposition: 2×5×13×1907×1656883>>79388288but are the guns it sticks to giant lazors>>79389737>when the gender affirmation is accidental
>>79390234Logically, Lasers are a better weapon for that environment than bullets>Fewer moving parts that can jam or slip in wet environment.>Bullet wounds bleed which is good for killing animals but bad if you're trying to make space. Lasers cauterize and prevent blood and other fluids from filling the area.>Hollowpoint rounds are useless against something with no vitals like the Superorganism.>Energy packs are lighter and easier to resupply than bullets (plug into a nuclear or bio reactor).>Much lower engagement distance than aboveground so you don't need the range advantage that projectiles have.
>>79390371Also I assume the laser guns are made possible by things that they're digging out of the pit in the first place.
>>79384574im legit autistic and this man is way on the bottom end of the spectrum