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What do the various classic races have for street food?
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>>78221475
Elves have weaker constitution than human on average and have more sensitive senses so probably not anything too spicy or single overpowering flavors. Maybe like some grilled vegetable skewers with some citrus juices?
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>>78221475
Gnomes eat tacos.
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>>78221509
So elves are an exaggerated version of those memes about white people and cooking?
>Knife ears be like "this lightly salted lettuce is too spicy for me"
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>>78221509
I imagine dwarves would probably be the opposite of this thanks to higher CON scores/poison resistance letting them eat subterranean stuff that would seem bizarre or unsafe to humans and elves aside from the obvious and ever present "dorf drink beer". Lots of cave mosses and fungi, probably shit like giant bats and lizards as big protein sources aside from whatever they might hunt when they venture to the surface. I read an idea somewhere of them making rough sorts of breads and cakes by grinding up fungi and mixing them with low quality beer to make dough, which I kinda like.

inb4 someone says fried chicken and koolaid jammers for orcs
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>>78221582
yeah, capsaicin is a poison so I would expect dwarf food to be like meme Indian food where it is just hot as hell with bold punchy flavors that dominate your mouth. I am thinking like a sausage roll made from flatbread that had some vegetables kneaded into it and the sausage made whatever they could domesticate (probably goat because mountains) with some hefty spicing of the goat.
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>>78221581
Motherfucker beat me to it

>>78221475
I'd imagine that halflings would have comfort food down pat. Mac n cheese, bbq, take the burritos from the orks and add their own spin. Calzones and pizza would be their own inventions that have spread to every market place. Asking a halfling for a deep dish will get you kicked out of the shop, though.
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>>78221582
Honestly, as far as Orc street food goes, if it's a TES or Warcraft type setting where they have their own cities and civilizations and aren't just mindless cannon fodder, I figure it'd just be a whole lot of very heavy grilled meat dishes and kebabs. Exactly what kind of meat isn't important, and hell, the vendor may not even know himself. Seasoning aside from salt would probably be pretty minimal.
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Dwarves
>Shroom Bowl: Thick stew with steamed pillbugs (like shrimp!), served in the cap of a robust mushroom. Eat the mushroom after you're done.

Elves:
>Thin acorn-flour noodles in a delicate broth made from poultry, green onion, and cloves
>Seared fish strips, rolled up and served with capers and a thickened onions sauce, served inside broad leaves

Orcs:
>a surprising variety of pemmicans, often incorporating flavors such as wild berries, walnuts, and cinnamon
>bring your own cup; they drop a pemmican cube in and pour hot water over it to form a broth, and then you go over to the meat lady to get morsels of meat added, drinking the soup without utensils

Gnomes:
>Barbecued meat and roast veggies on tiny little skewers
>You buy a plate, and then share a table with others around a bright copper fondue pot
>Once you tire of the conversation or the cheese, you move to another table, which features a different fondue
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>>78221582
>inb4 someone says fried chicken and koolaid jammers for orcs
Something interesting is that in 3.X orcs as PCs didn't get a con bonus and in 5e they only get a +1. Orcs are usually portrayed as having all this rough food in people's setting but based on states orcs can't handle dwarf food.
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>>78221706
>CMOT Dibbler is an Orc in disguise
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>>78221738
Sushi or like fresh fish with pretty simple more Japanese style cooking would make sense for elves. Keep as much of the delicate texture and natural flavors as possible.
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>>78221738
>thickened onions sauce
thanks 4chan word filter
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>>78221475
Which race has the best fried chicken recipe?
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>>78221475
>classic races
So what, humans, blemmyes, and norsemen?
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>>78221863
Tolkienesque through the lense of D&Disms
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>>78221475
Rocks and rat-on-a-stick with ketchup.
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>>78221475
Which race has the best koolaid jammers recipe?
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>>78222008
Humans, only they would be degenerate enough to invent koolaid.
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Elves are really particular about their deer jerky. Like, weirdo Elf dad just goes on and on about it with his ancient friends that sort of nod and go, "Remember Aelfir's recipe? Yeah, he retired recently. 700 years. Can't get good help anymore."
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>>78221475
>What do the various classic races have for street food?
it would depend greatly on the geography of the setting and whether their settlements are designed for people to walk around or if they are too spread, as they would be in farming towns or too reliant on other forms of transit (gondolas? trains? flight?). It would probably also change with local tastes and fads and the supply of different food items.
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>>78222076
Metropolitan trade city, steampunk setting with long range dirigibles able to bring in materials from across the globe.
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>>78221856
Halflings. Although Dwarves insist that their recipe is better and everybody else would appreciate it more if they could handle their spices (or as we'd call them, poisons).
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>>78222150
>Dwarves insist that their recipe is better and everybody else would appreciate it more if they could handle their spices (or as we'd call them, poisons).
So it's like those dudes who always order the hottest hot wings on the menu and swear they're the best even as you see the sweat beading on their forehead?
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>>78222181
I was thinking more that since Dwarves use a greater variety of ingredients because of their natural poison resistance, but that's great flavour. pun intended. So they CAN eat more, and that makes them feel tougher then other races, so it's a quality they prize and they go out of their way to make their food as "flavourful" as possible for the bragging rights of being able to keep it down.
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>>78221475
With the higher con dwarves can better stomach aged meats and tartar
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High Elves are your typical suburbia housewife HOA style cooks. i.e. People who will butcher a perfectly good recipe like making a pizza out of fruit and playing it off as "Fun and healthy!" and getting upset when their children don't want to eat it.
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I love how these threads are always just projection central.
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>>78221582
Dwarf Fortress establishes that they'll eat any sort of subterranean extremophile that's still carbon based, and often mushed together in some really "arcane" cooking style like nothing but exotic lard cooked in regular lard.
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>>78221738
Aw damnit, now I'm hungry but I've got my calory intake for the day so I'm not going to eat anything else so that's going to remain unabated.
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Elves I feel would loathe the idea of street food.
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>>78221835
>Implying Elves wouldn't eat both onion-sauce and wordfiltered-bean sauce
You ever eat Onion Curry? Tastes like something an elf would make, it's basically jam made from the caramelized stuff that forms on grilled onions. Onions grow well in thickets and gardens, and elves love grilled vegetables, it sounds like something an elf would like.
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>>78221636
>>78221582
But aren't spices an evolutionary response to jungle environs?
I don't know how prevalent capsaicin as defense mechanism would be in a cave.
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>>78224020
Elves would loathe the idea of anything spicier than boiled lettuce as another anon said.

"I wanted to try something REALLY different, so I ate ONE WHOLE GREEN BEAN! I'm so wild and crazy!"

Meanwhile the Gnome sips on his cup of Belladonna tea, flavored with Not!Carolina Reaper, just staring at Prissy McPriss the elven superbard/superarcher/superwiz.
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>>78221582
>The underground, for all its wonders, tends to have very samey flavors.
>This means dwarves pay through the nose for spices
>Those brave dwarves who venture up from the deepest holds to delve the near-surcace markets to bring down spices to their families down below are as much a popular figure as musicians and brewmasters, since there's no way the spice supply lasts long enough for excess to work its way down to the deepest holds without these supply runs
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>>78226468
Elves live in fear of the Orkish contraption known as a 'Deep Fryer'
It threatens their slim figures.
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>>78226468
>Belladonna tea, flavored with Not!Carolina Reape
I'd try it.
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>>78222095
If people aren't walking around there won't be any street food
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>>78226468
My point was more that they'd probably consider it undignified to engage in something as pedestrian as mass-produced foodstuffs eaten on the go.
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>>78229077
Why would it be undignified for an elf to eat on the go? Do elves not have laborers and farmers?
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>>78229114
DOTS, but often not.
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>>78229077
Oh, I know. I just had that vision in my head of an Elf talking about their wild food adventures while the party is sitting around a campfire. What can I say, I'm easily amused.

>>78227657
Just saying the name of that contraption makes elves retch and Gnomes drool. Makes me drool too, for that matter.

Stoopid Elfses.
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>>78226355
Well, no but what he meant i think is that capsaicin is a poison so to them there's chances that other normally poisonnous shit is just funky-tasting to them.
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>>78221835
>>78225878
I mean onion sauce sounds like a heavy thickened french onion soup so im fucking down for that shit. Even without the cheese its one of my fav soups.
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>>78222724
This is the first one I found to have actual good content, even if it's one in every 10 posts
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>>78221475
Bump
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>>78221581
>It's not that the elves like bland food, it's because the only time orcs are fed by elves is when they get captured on a raid.
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I like the idea that, in a fantasy setting, human cuisine most takes the form of varying quality imitations or improvements of other race's cooking, usually either slapped between two pieces of bread, made into a biscuit or hardtack, or made into a sauce and poured over noodles.
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>>78221475
Imagine what a pain in the ass it would be to describe human food as a nonhuman race
>Human society grew out of hunter-gatherer and agrarian communities, and their cuisine still features a mix of whatever plants and animals can be easily surface-farmed on a mass scale
>Unless the humans you’re buying from can profit off higher quality and specialization, in which case their plants and livestock will be treated better than some human children
>Or if they view meat consumption as disgusting and primitive, leading to food lacking some or all animal products
>And sometimes it’s a purely moral or religious objection, leading to fish not counting as “meat” or diets filled with meat grown using magic
>And this isn’t getting into the issue of humans imitating the cuisine of other races, often poorly and out of laziness but sometimes expertly out of respect
>...Okay look.
>If it exists, some human somewhere will try to cook and eat it. It might not catch on, and they might endure a lot of mockery, but they’ll try.
>Just don’t ask two humans from two different trade cities where the best food is and you’ll be fine.
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>>78221475

Street food, not general food?

>elves
Fruits, honey with various bases, and actually smaller game meat. As a matter of fact I picture elves, contrarywise to most anons here, to like spicy food and especially spicy vs sweet food. Vegetables: yes, but mostly something like edible leaves for a structural base.

>dwarves
Actually they don't really like strong drinks "on the street". I mean, all dwarves are ok with a beer before work but they would rather sit down for "real" beverage. Aside from that fermented things, cheese, probably soups and something like ramen. Salty overall.

>halflings
If we're going Tolkien-like halflings are probably the least interested in street food actually. Food is serious business. Not necessarily haute cuisine, but you just SIT DOWN for second breakfast. The most similar to street food thing they would have are probably pastries or small savory+breads for eating outside when the weather is fine.
Unless they're strolling innawoods or something, but even then, their picnics are pretty elaborate.

>humans
It depends on where? I'd be tempted to say they generally have a mexican-like style, so tacos, but whatever.

>orcs
... whatever they can kill?
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>>78236846

It's the usual "races as culture, execpt humans" conundrum
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>>78236846
I started thinking about elves and holy shit it would be even worse, wouldn’t it?
>Comfort food from multiple generations ago on every menu, quietly annoying younger elves and confusing shorter lived tourists
>The odd elven master chef, who spent his entire immortal life perfecting a single kind of food, and now has to hope it will remain popular (like croissants, steak, or beer) and not fall out of favor, rendering their immortal life’s work a waste
>This is why elven master chefs are so rare, although you wouldn’t know that from how stuck up the mediocre ones are
>You also get both extremes with elves - horribly avant-garde Hellraiser nightmare food, prepared for ancient and powerful immortals looking for novelty, and the blandest lukewarm gruel imaginable for stodgy old elves who refused to adapt their tastes to modern times
>This isn’t even broaching the topic of different sub-races of elf, especially Drow, and the complete fucking wild card that half-elves can be.
>And while blood feuds over food are rare between elves, because that shit can outlast empires if you let it fester, the few that remain are incredible serious shit.
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>>78237136
Yeah, that’s always annoying. I do like when people justify that part of human culture by bringing up how short lived humans are, or make it a double edged sword because of our tendency to group other humans into a trusted in-group and a distrusted out-group. So two human empires will have radically different food, even down to the taverns in each town having one or more specialities, but good luck unifying them all if one empire goes to war. Which will probably be with the other human empire.
I also like when people make the shorter lived races even more adaptable and varied than humans, but they usually pick gnomes for that and make the whole thing cartoonish.
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>>78236846
>Imagine what a pain in the ass it would be to describe human food as a nonhuman race

not even a little bit hard.
>Humans and halflings are the only species who have a taste for salt.
>Dwarves and gnomes already enjoy mineral-rich subterranean diets; orcs consume lots of sodium-dense scrubland game; elves have been known to sip salt water but otherwise seem not to need it
>But humans and halflings dig up salt rock, and then grind it over food to "season" it, even packing food in densely-packed ground salt. Salt to humans is like sulphur to goblins, they go nuts over the stuff.

>Humans and orcs are the only species who fry food
>Being both nomads and surface treaders, they often find themselves far from home or in the cold and wind; they favor very rich, fatty diets, to a degree that other races find frankly unnatural
>Humans will fry literally fucking anything; they pack food in eggs and breadcrumbs and dip it into whole pots of boiling fat. They fry fish. They fry rice. They fry vegetables. Then, they'll take it out and grind fresh salt rock onto it. I know, right?
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>>78227657
I like the idea that humans and orcs have a kind of friendly cultural rivalry, both shitting on the other over being too weak or too brutish, but will always come together over fried meat and strong drink.
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>>78237353
>Humans will fry literally fucking anything; they pack food in eggs and breadcrumbs and dip it into whole pots of boiling fat. They fry fish. They fry rice. They fry vegetables. Then, they'll take it out and grind fresh salt rock onto it. I know, right?
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>>78237224
>And while blood feuds over food are rare between elves, because that shit can outlast empires if you let it fester, the few that remain are incredible serious shit

And so the deep dish/thin crust pizza wars rage on...
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>>78237136
It's not really a conundrum when it's the most logical solution to take advantage of human brains.
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>>78236391
>Grab whatever you can find, even other races' food
>Take that sumbitch and put it in a sandwich
or
>Slap it on top of some rice

Humans having easy access to grains helps them mix things up with whatever they find.
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>>78222724
Yea it’s really urban in here.
>>78230666
Kys goat whore
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>>78239979
>The modern sandwich is a uniquely human invention
>Every race has put meat between other foodstuffs before, but only humans had both the surplus grain to make bread plentiful and the animals for cheese and sliced meats
>Gnomes and halflings sometimes claim to have invented it first, although the halflings are far too easygoing to care and the gnomes are almost certainly lying
>Culinary historians usually credit halflings with first putting meat or dairy between two slices of bread, then ascribe the most popular variations to humanity
>Except the lettuce wrap, which was reportedly invented by a half-elf trying to please both sides of his extended family
>No evidence exists of whether or not it worked
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>TFW the best looking rations are half-orc and elf
Good to know they’d both be offended by my tastes
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>>78221475
Kobolds
>Invented the kebab style rotisserie to feed the entire clan at once, spiced to hide the quality of the meat

Lizardfolk
>Anything more complicated than a taco/wrap is not worth doing
>Really like pork
>Will frequently serve humans to humans without telling them

Dragonborn
>THE FUCKING WORST STEAK CONNOISSEURS YOU WILL EVER MEET
>EACH CLAN AND HOUSE WILL FIGHT EACH OTHER OVER THE PROPER AMOUNT OF PINK IN THE MIDDLE, AGE OF THE MEAT, METHOD OF PREPARING, ETC
>TWO HOUSES WENT TO WAR OVER WHETHER TO SEAR THE MEAT BEFORE OR AFTER BAKING IT
>ONE HOUSE INSISTS THEIR OWN FIRE BREATH IS THE ONLY WAY TO COOK THE MEAT
>SOMEHOW NONE OF THEM GET IT RIGHT
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>>78240627
>Typical dragonborn argument at the food stand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI9_wnlOx0Q
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>>78221475
>Halflings, being classic English country folk, will eat anything overcooked and bland, especially if it's a meat pie.
>Orcs, being classic English city folk, go for fish and chips, but will settle for a warm pint. In fact, fuck the food. As long as it's greasy, it's welcome with the pint.
>Dwarves have a refined palette. It's only the best for them. Street food doesn't make sense to them, because they don't see how one can become a master crafter of street food. The closest they get is novelty food shops.
>Elves will absolutely slather some toast or lettuce in avocado and go to fucking town.
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>>78236237
>Rock is attributed to Edinburgh
>'Manchester' egg
The fuck?????
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>>78240685
>Orcs
>Fish
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>>78236237
Your fish and chips suck dick, any American city with a six-digit population serves better.
When you have more culinary variety in Taiwan than London, you know you fucked up.
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>>78240758
I'll have you know that one of the diners in my small Wisconsin town has excellent fish and chips.
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>>78221475
>Elves
>Apples, berries, and carrots, obviously. We're not savages.
>Orcs
>Pork, and lots of it, mostly barbecued. Real orcish barbecue doesn't need sauce.
>Humans
>Small sandwiches and other holdables, for walking the city with.
>Halflings
>Why are you eating outside? You need a table to hold all your food.
>Dwarves
>Hearty bread, or maybe sausage and mustard.
>Dragonborn
>Boiled eggs. Don't judge me!
>Drow
>Got all your knuckles? No reason. Now hold out your hand for a second...
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>>78240724
The greasy, 2am drinking, food is what's important mate.
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>>78227657
>Just saying the name of that contraption makes elves retch
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>>78240512
This is easily the most delicious-looking image. Guess I'm a half-orc
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>>78221581
I like this idea. Also add in that maybe elves can taste a greater degree of subtlety so elf food tastes bland to everyone else (again, insert white people joke here)

>>78227624
Also like this too.
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>>Halflings when someone mentions "street food".
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>>78240496
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>>78240557
I am simultaneously amazed, amused, and saddened that someone actually took the time to do this. However, the coolness of having done this is more than 4chin deserves.

pic is my contribution: Human made Battered Chicken
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>>78236237
the bri'ish have their own food stereotype, not bland but gross
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>>78226468
>>78224020
They would probably eat some organic, fair trade, cruelty free, locally grown vegetable wrap that ends up costing $30 with a mocha latte frappucino that cost $20.
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>>78241538
I'm not sure if it counts as street food, but I imagine elven pastries are incredibly elaborate things, in order for elven bakers to flex on other elves, as well as the lesser races
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>>78240685
Orcs confirmed for sosig roll appreciators
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>>78226468
>>78224020
>>78243654
I get the sense of Elven society as something of a talentocracy. Sure, there are master crafter elves, and they can live off the revenue their craft brings in & dedicate their lives to it. But every Elf in existence wants to be an artist in some capacity, and the fields are EXTREMELY competitive. So may Elves have to make their living by monetising their hobby for pocket money. Sound familiar drawfags?
And that's where street food comes in. It's basically how the elven "working" class eats, since they don't really have time to make their own food, and they may not even know how; but there are plenty of wannabe chefs who can monetise their training, and that takes care of their needs.
Basically, they live like Millenials. But it's medieval world, so it looks super luxurious to everybody else.
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>>78240826
>Real orcish barbecue doesn't need sauce.


This is a point of contention between different orc clans. While the aforementioned style of preparation is common in one clan, another makes use of complex dry rubs involving multiple spices, while another makes use of a vinegar-based wet rub. There are as many methods of preparing barbeque as there are cuts of meat, and every orc clans seems to have their own, which is of.course better than all others.

That's not even getting into the various sorts of cooking, ranging from grilling over an open flame to slow cooking, to cooking in cast iron ovens buried in pits.
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>>78221475
I imagine dwarves would have something similar to mexican burritos, only filled with mushrooms, goat cheese and pork, all wrapped in quinoa-grain tortillas.

Wild Elves would likely have venison jerky and salted nuts and dried berries. Maybe some poultry burgers, while high elves would have something super fancy funnel cakes.

Orcs would go for things like fried chips and breaded meat bites.
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As far as I know, meatpies with a thick crust to grab them by on one side were literally invented so miners can eat the juicy meat parts without getting stone-dust all over the thing from their grubby hands, so I nominate that one as a dwarf street-food.

Elves would probably have some sort of wrapped-in-leaves kind of things, depending on which part of the world they are on (think like feta wrapped in grape-leaf, or sushi, or stuffed cabbage, except probably the stuffing is more nuts and less ground meat).
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>>78221749
Dibbler is eternal, here and everywhere, now and always.
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>>78236237
Whoever made that pic is a fucking Rock is from Blackpool and Marsies are not a must try food. Quite the oposite. They're a "it's 2pm and I'm drunk as fuck" food.
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>>78244222
>They're a "it's 2pm and I'm drunk as fuck" food
Exactly, it's bri'ain's contribution to cuisine.
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>>78243852
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>>78221582
I'm stealing ALL of these.
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>>78221738
I always thought that orcs would be shell fish eaters. Tehy've got big teeth/tusks and strong jaws for cracking open clams and such things.
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>>78245403
Huh. Never thought about it that way. I like that. I figured orcs would have tough, gamey meats and some sort of cheese like Russian farmer's cheese (Tvorog).
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Would Kuo-Toa eat caviar?
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Street food is, by definition, sold on the street. Which means that it has to spring up in towns and cities, right?
Even in Nationstates, Cities mean more people with surplus income, which means that there's a significant market for people looking to eat for more than just survival. Traditional cuisines, quick preparation, relatively easy to make, and sourced from local ingredients are going to predominate for obvious reasons. But even then, they're going to be influenced by high society- which, in turn, is influenced by the "exotic" cuisine of neighbouring states. Different methods of cooking with different combinations of ingredients slowly trickle down from the upper to middle classes, and fast food menus change to suit these new tastes and different chains compete with each other by offering different innovations.
This is whacked up to 11 in major cities within Empires. Multiple different races living within districts and streets not 10 minute's walk from each other. Even greater wealth and cheaper imports, larger markets for businesses to compete in and larger niches for specialists to fill. Greater and faster food fads occasionally contributing to larger lists of staples, and traditional, local ingredients and dishes start getting expanded and glorified into cuisine.
Sure, different races have different tastes. But be honest with me; of all the examples of Race-specific cuisine ITT, you'd probably find it difficult to choose if you had the option to have just one, right now. Local ingredients and dietary requirements are all you need to consider when figuring out which race eats what; anything above that is a cultural difference, and KulturKampf is so much more interesting for worldbuilding purposes then assuming that every race has one hat and sticks to it exclusively.
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In our campaign it was established that Hill Dwarves make and eat a lot of Italian style food. The party was visiting one PC's home town and I asked him what his character's mum made for dinner. His answer was Spaghetti Bolognese, I think mostly because it was the first thing that came to mind. As a result, they all got to try Dwarven Pizza when they went to the tavern the next day.
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>>78246231
>KulturKampf is so much more interesting for worldbuilding purposes then assuming that every race has one hat and sticks to it exclusively.
The more you diversify and the more distinct the races the more players will see them as just Humans.

If that's the intent it's fine.
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>>78248646
Less distinct*
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>>78245561
They could also be useful for cracking open bones to get that delicious marrow. Maximum comfy orcs are hunters and fishermen. Herbs and plants are cultivated for flavour. Meat is always taken from hunted animals, raising animals to trust you and then killing them is grotesque.

Elves have a similar attitude but eat more plant matter.

Both like honey.
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Who makes/eats these?
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>>78253185
No one. They're disgusting. Even a sugar-addicted kid wouldn't want one.
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>>78253185

Dwarves, specifically immigrant ones, who add sugar and food colouring to an old war ration recipe.
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Gelatinous Cubes are sliced into small pieces, of which their acidic properties are partially neutralized with sodas and minerals. They are eaten by the elites and more daring of "polites". Those who can eat it with less neutralizing agents are seen with a slight heir of superiority but the sincerity of this honoring is questionable.
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>>78253608
>add sugar and food colouring to an old war ration recipe
What other ingredients does rock candy have
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>>78253702
>slight heir of superiority



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