>>76782537
Best tone is erotic, best world is cyberpunk.

>>76782542
>Erotic
Enthusiasm appreciated, but this is a blue board.

>>76782537
Grimdark dieselpunk, and the setting is a couple city blocks of London, England in 1940, one a factory, another a gradually destroyed set of apartments due to the bombings. To reach more of the city would be a gigantic adventure for rat heroes, but I guess it's possible.

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>>76782542
>>76782607
Both good choices, I think the key thing is grit and grime. Rats are incredible animals, but there isn't much glitz and glamour in how they survive. Whatever the setting, a high difficulty, and maintaining a sense of survival-against-the-odds is a must.

>tone
Perilous, yet adventurous.
>setting
Mostly reguar world. Tiny mice trying to survive or even thrive through ingenuity, courage, and teamwork, despite being small and weak compared to other creatures.

>>76782537
Read Mouse Guard and Red Wall.

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>>76782709
I'm yet to be convinced anyone on this board plays mouse guard. People talk about it all the time, but I have no evidence that motherfuckers play that game.

>>76783055
It's the rules lite version of Burning Wheel. Most people will play that and look at Mouse Guard's pretty artwork.

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Here's some story hooks for a ratty post-apoc campaign.

>A wealthy merchant offers a juicy payday, or vital supplies, for delivering a package that for some reason the official postal service won't touch.
>A shipment of wasteglass, the glittering and valuable remains of the pre-end world baked into great scars on the surface, has gone missing in the midst of some of the worst mutant country in the mapped world. The shipment contains enough to turn any lucky soul who finds it into a very, very wealthy man.
>The Rat King, a powerful weapon requiring multiple pilots all networked together via implants in their tails and spines, has gone rogue. Months after its disappearance, sightings of other rat-kings of crude construction are beginning to be reported on the edges of known civilization, the labs responsible for its construction however denies any involvement.
>The Fieldhands, a group of luddites who claims ratkind must abandon technology or face another end to civilization, have become militant. Bounties have been posted for the heads of any members, who can be identified by tattoos on the back of their necks. A sub-faction of the Fieldhands who abhor violence have come under-attack by zealous bounty-hunters and requests aid.
>Micemen, the horrible, cannibalistic, and frustratingly short cousins of ratkind had the incredible fortune of breaking into a pre-war cache of food and supplies. After their numbers exploded and attacks on nearby settlements grew more and more common, mercenary crews have begun pulling out of the area because of mounting losses. As less and less able-bodied rats stand to fight off the hordes, settlements have grown more and more depserate, offering more and more ludicrous rewards for any aid rendered.

Why does nobody play Mausritter? It got a thread here but the discord is a wasteland despite being allegedly the only place where to find a game.

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>>76784574
>All these games about playing mice
Damn you redwall, for all your worth you stacked the deck against rats.

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>>76782537
in the first world war rats were said to get larger than cats, some even reaching the size of dogs.
Perhaps if the war had dragged out a few more years we could have gotten a whole new sentient race, born in mud and blood. A race who only know the conflict of the men-folk.
Would they join the war for a pre-existing side or their own? Or would they live as scavengers and night-terrors amongst the trenches?

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>>76784657
>Diselpunk hellscape that's slowly killing mankind off for good
>Mania and nationalism has ruined the remaining humans minds, they are doomed to destroy themselves
>Cue a race of intelligent rats, the unwitting heirs to the earth as life refuses to go without an intelligent race, growing up in the trenches, scavenging for supplies and ending up in vicious trench-fights with the paranoid and maddened humans

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>>76782537
Personally I prefer Fantasy but Post-Apoc has his charme but my group wouldnt try it.

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I keep rats. Anything anyone wants to know about them for campaigns etc? Pic related is sweetpea

>>76785053
cute
no questions atm

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>>76784687
no one's sure if the rat men are rats turned men or men turned rats. But every tommy and every jerry knows one thing for certain. They're out in no-mans land, watching, waiting.
Grey 'Arry in the next trench over claims he trades bullets with them in return for dog tags they scavenge from the wastes.
A tank broke down when the crew died to a gas attack, but when someone was sent to see about scavenging it they found the engine, a several ton hunk of metal, missing.
Command refuses to acknowledge them, even when photos and corpses begin to show up.
The war goes on.

>>76784612
Surely you could do a Redwall type game where you play as rats/weasels/stoats/etc, the equivalent of an evil party in DnD or whatever

>>76785053
Tell sweetpea that a drunk american think she is very cute.

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>>76785120
>drunk american
> it's not even 10AM at the latest on a monday
Anon are you ok?

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>>76785088
The rats are learnin'. They wait in the walls, or just underneath the communication rooms, they don't know enough yet to realize there's a whole world out there beyond the war, but they're learning all they can in the meantime. I heard a fellow that was on his way to a field hospital was doped up so thoroughly he couldn't find his own hands just fer claiming he heard 'em trying to figure out what makes a bullet do what it do. I...
I don't much like to think what they'll do if they learn how to make their own bullets. Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll just keep to themselves.
Maybe.

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>>76785162
Oh I'm totally fine. I work the night-shift and am lucky enough to be on a three-day weekend at the moment. I'm just soaking myself in my homebrew beer and playing metro exodus, alt-tabbing every now and again so I can look at the rat thread.
Pro-tip, don't expect great accuracy when soaking yourself in beer.

>>76782542
First Post did not disappoint.

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>>76785088
The rat-men are not confined to the western front. At the failed naval landings sailors reported strange scraping noises in their holds.
In the frozen hellscape of the eastern battlefields strange shapes dart amongst the trees and grasses at night.
In the deserts five men must always be set to guard supplies, precious resources in the sands.
On the high seas the crews of the engine rooms rarely show their faces anymore, and there seem to be more than the logs would suggest.
Even in the cities the starving civilian populace has begun to report missing food and stolen machines.

>>76785241
>On the high seas the crews of the engine rooms rarely show their faces anymore, and there seem to be more than the logs would suggest.
Fucking kino
The Bilge-rats know the ship has to keep on sailing, so why host a mutiny? Why hurt anyone? Just keep the engines running. I mean, the humans can hear it too right? The music of the gears? The beat of the pistons? It's too beautiful to not maintain.

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>>76785183
I know a phone operator from the backlines, right?
He says that he keeps getting calls from lines that were shelled into oblivion months ago.
He scratched down what he heard last time it happened.
>"R-Reeequezztin Reeee-zuhplah"
I figure that they've seen us calling for more food over the line, want some of it for themselves.

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>>76785120
I told her and she got the zoomies

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>>76785277
Here's a fun fact: Prince Albert (King George VI) was at the battle of Jutland in a turret crew. The rat-men and the future king of England could be mere meters away from eachother.

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>>76784657
>Join a preexisting side
"Eh frank?"
"Yeh?"
"You ever seen the new guys without their masks?"
"Neh"
"Weird, me neither"

>I-I've heard them! I swear to god and any saint that'll vouch for me. I heard them, singing and playing instruments, the same instruments command says we can't play anymore because it might give away our position! I heard it! The most beautiful songs in their weird, tinny voices! Why don't we give 'em these trenches, they were born from this hell and yet they can still smile and sing! To hell with this war, to hell with this whole damn front! Let the rats have it I say! Wait-no! Don't do this to me! Please! S-sir it's the drink, I didn't mean any of it, please sir no!

John was carried away that night by the commissariat. He wasn't seen by any of the men on that front ever again. And when they heard it, either on the radio on the frequencies that weren't used anymore, or on their watches in the trenches where they swore they could see the lights and swaying figures and the wafting smell of cooking food, they didn't say a word. They just thought of John kicking and screaming as he was dragged away for such seditious behavior.
Some of them wished they had said it first.

>>76782542
>Rat Mothers, sometimes called Breeders, are the only known type of female Skaven, a creature birthed only to be a bloated baby making factory. Each weights at least 700 pounds and measures 10 feet long from snout to tail. Their flabby soft bodies bristle with dozens of protrusions, all of which leak the foul-smelling milk on which their litters are weaned. Partly crippled by their role, these creatures cannot care for themselves and must rely on castrated slaves for survival. They spend most of their time in a euphoric haze brought on by an application of hallucinogens and other drugs
>When adequately fed and attended, the Rat Mother births a litter of 1-10 squalling Ratlings each week, these creatures reaching maturity in 2-3 weeks

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>>76785343
This drunk bastard is very happy to know that.
Treat that rat right anon, she deserves it.

>>76785349
What would the rats think about royalty? Would they understand the chain of command, or be confused that someone who wasn't doing the fighting was giving the orders?

>>76785053
What makes a gourd house so great for a rat? (Seriously, it's great)
Does Sweetpea like scritches?
Do rats have the sense not to shit in their foodbowl?

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>>76783055
I've GM'd tons of Mouseguard but I've come the conclusion that I'm never going to be a player. The last campaign I ran was pretty fun, basically a whole charade involving the fall of the Mouseguard after a war and most of the survivors dissolved into smaller guerilla companies trying to take back Lockhaven and reinstate the Matriarch.

>>76785547
>Not a single photo of Ska anywhere
God damn it queek you gotta treat your boyfriend better.

>>76783055
The truth is that like most niche hobbies, tabletop has become a consumer thing. People buy the stuff and never use it. It's all about participating to the buyer circlejerk.

>>76785648
(same goes for the pirates, they just hoard and talk about their hoard instead of playing the games)

>>76785572
go away fag. One can have comrades without butt fucking them

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>>76785732
Humans, absolutely. Skaven? Probably not.

>>76785468
IIRC rats do establish some sort of pecking order. I'd say they would be more confused as to why the one giving orders was not the biggest one.

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>>76782537
>some strange nutritional slurry-mix of all three?
Yes

>>76785328
"W-were not gonna give them any, right? We barely have enough supplies for ourselves! Command should know about this."

>>76785881
What a bizarre movie, honestly.

>>76786113
Bizarre, but charming nonetheless. The Club scene was really nicely animated, and the rotoscoped demon made by filming cow guts was also cool visually.
The music was nice too.

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>>76782537
Fantasy.

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>>76785883
Way I see it, either we give them some rations, or we'll be waking up down a few men tomorrow. You've seen what the small ones do when they get hungry, imagine what the big ones are capable of.

>>76786304
I haven't heard anything about the big ones killing people yet...
Are you sure they'd come after us? After all, we have all the guns after all!
Right?

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>>76782537
Super Hero comics

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>>76786445
Bruce has better manners than that.

>>76785088
>Right now, under some nameless crater, in some nameless stretch of blasted wasteland marked with skeletons and razorwire, there is a colony of rats studying the books left over from the men who used to live in the trench nearest to them, the lights kept on by the engine of an old-tank purring away in a corner.

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>>76786488
Near, didn’t know about that one. Spoiler info this one to keep the joke going

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>>76786581
And to finish explaining the gag

>>76786518
>>76785088
Reminds me of this
https://youtu.be/sYDhWJ4BoGU

>>76786689
Except the rats are the size of the humans and are figuring out the phone lines.

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>>76782537
Jokey superhero campaing that ends up being quite serious at the end

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>>76787024
Goddammit Anon did you read my mind?

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>>76785415
A few months back we woke up to find a pilot in our trenches. He had gauze wrappings like he'd been in a field hospital, yet here he was, in a front trench right up against no mans land. Not just gauze either, he had a necklace made of telephone wire, decorated with empty casings. And let me tell you, this man had the most dopey grin on his face. We thought he had gone daffy, but he seemed normal enough. All we could get out of him was that his plane had crashed in no mans land a week earlier and he had just gotten back. As he was led by some officers back to the aerodrome he was humming some sort of tune, not like any I've heard.
On long nights I hear those tunes, joyful and cheery, drifting from the craters.

>>76786689
>Peace on Earth is a one-reel 1939 Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer cartoon short directed by Hugh Harman, about a post-apocalyptic world populated only by animals, as it is claimed in the short that human beings have gone extinct due to war.
>1939
That is some impeccable timing.

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>>76787254
Saldy it's untranslatable and non è salutare to port him in other languages.

>>76787301
It was the strangest thing...
A week ago, one of our comms guys got in trouble, the bad kind of trouble that you might not come back from, with the brass. Apparently he had been giving out reports to a 'commander' that wasn't on any of our records, thing was, he got off with just a beating. The reports were just history book stuff. Who invented planes, how they work, what they're used for, how you fly them, really basic stuff you might teach an engineering student or entertain a kid with, nothing tactical.
I ran into the guy and tried to ask who this 'commander' of his was. All he said was that they were "a real stand-up guy, got good taste in music." Then he just turned heel and walked off with a smile, humming this tune. I swear I've heard that tune before somewhere...

>>76786651
coomers should really just stick to porn instead of trying to do literally anything else

>>76787509
>One day some poor officer is going to have to explain to his boss why a previously unknown squadron just flew over their lines.
>And why the AA gunners refused to fire
>And why the comms officers refused to report it in
>And why the soldiers cheered them on as they flew

>>76787446
Yeah, it's a bloody masterpiece and it's a shame it can't really work outside of Italy, if there's a comic guy deserving of worldwide recognition, it's Leo.

Now since I know exactly ONE italian irl who's into /tg/ stuff and knows of the Rat, I gotta ask...
...Paolo?

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Final Fantasy IX did rat people really well. They were just another kingdom that happened to be rats. Their land was one of perpetual rain, so their uniforms resembled raincoats.

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>>76787798
No.

>>76787863
What's the relation between rats and rain anyways?

>>76785648
Most people who don't play the systems they buy use them as reference material. I've got plenty of systems I haven't played but I still use all of them in some way.

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Of course, not all rats and men get along in the trenches.

>>76787635
It's kind of beautiful. Something impossible is happening in those trenches. The rats are learning, but they're not learning to kill people, even though their world is incredibly dangerous. They're learning for the sake of it, something so pure and good that these soldiers, members of a (potentially) doomed humanity who have presumably been fighting for generations, still can understand the value in what those rodents are doing.

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No idea. But in FF IX there's two clans of rat people. One lives in the rain, the other on a tree surrounded by a sandstorm.

>>76788012
>>76788028
2 kinds of people

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>>76788028
I've got to run a game now where the players slowly discovered the rats in no-mans-land.

>>76784657
of course, the reason the rats got so big in the first place was the surplus of available meat in the form of corpses.
Food for thought, if you'll pardon the phrasing.

>>76788215
Well yeah, I think most people get that. But I think the direction the thread is going in is the idea that the rats, somehow, aren't an evil or monstrous group that are going to kill people to eat them, even if they do eat corpses.

>>76783055
Well, i participate in a homebrew game of similar setting, but little lizards, squirrels, snails and frogs are player options as well

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>>76788271
if anything they'd probably be sick of the taste of human flesh. That would explain why they want rations, even the shitty jam the soldiers get is new and exiting.

>>76788311
Maybe they realized that the humans were more like them then they thought, and they decided that it would be wrong to keep eating them. I'd love to see their culture, all exceedingly military-*themed* but not necessarily militant. All members of the community having a rank and work-shifts but not constantly at war.

>>76788311
There was a rat thread ages back that suggested that rat soldiers might actually like how hard and inedible human rations are.

>>76787876
...Dang. Oh well, have a good serata, fratè.

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>>76788347
If the folks are already dead there ain't much point in letting them go to waste. Alive men-folk should be kept that way however, better for everyone.
As for culture we've seen they have a love for music and machinery, and that they're not generally hostile. I like that military-themed idea, you'd only be able to get military clothing out on the field, but they don't know which parts go with which uniforms exactly.
I bet that they'd try disguising themselves to get a better look at trench-life up close, like pic related.

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>>76787509
if they think airplanes are radical, just wait until they get a load of pic related

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>>76785277
gotta wonder how long it takes for the crews to realize that there are rat men about.
And if they would care or not.

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>>76788464
Gompani and Wirelesshiba rats are A+ even if /tg/ isnt the best place for them.

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>>76785415
>>76787301
>>76787509
>>76787635
>>76788028
good thread, thanks for the ideas
I'll do up a proper one tomorrow

>>76787980
Rats go inside the house when it rains.
Makes sense why they'd build a kingdom where it rains.

>>76783055
I've gm'd for this multiple times, it's a great game

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>>76788109
Well, they live on top of the tree, so they're above the rain, and also above the mist that creates monsters.

It's a shame Square never used the Burmecians again. They were a cool race and had a lot of flavor put into them. You would think they would put them in FFXIV to go with the other furry races they love so much.

I've always liked the idea of rats or cockroaches becoming post-human survivors who both repeat the mistakes of humanity and also play archaeologist with what is left of them.

>>76790167
All the cool stuff in FF was discarded over the years, bugmen have terrible taste.

>>76782537
Fantastic Spain or Italy? A race of valiant and noble knights and duelists.

>>76788542
>Big-nice sky warren!

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You may not like it, but this is what peak rat looks like

>>76788562
"You look like you've seen a ghost kid. What? You saw a rat? Of course you did, they live down here too. Yes yes, I know it was a big one. Would you calm down? Everyone knows they're that big. They've been there for years. Yes. The rumours of the rat-men are true, and no, we will NOT be telling high-command, and if you run off and radio them, you will never see home again, you get me? Good. They started showing up when the men in the engine room, god rest their souls, started getting sick. But even as they started passing the engines kept truckin' on. Nobody could figure it out, but nobody wanted to look a gift horse in the mouth. The old-timers, yes, older then me, reckon that the engineers were teaching the rats all they could before the sickness took 'em, and after several missions where we technically didn't have an engine crew and we still kept going, the captain left a box of medals, a few schematic books, and a bottle of expensive whiskey he had been saving. We thank 'em how we can, and you will too if you got any decency in you."

>>76782537
Anyone got the name of the artist that drew the lewd Skaven waifus based on each of the ingame units?

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>>76790167
Square learned absolutely all of the wrong lessons from Final Fantasy VII.
It's the reason we've been languishing in zipper man and J-pop land ever since IX.

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>>76793090
I saw the hand before they attempted to fix it and I'm still amazed how they managed to fuck it up so hard. I really dont know why he didnt use the second hand which would of solved the issues.

>>76782537
tone should be silly and fun, something that encourages exploration, experimentation, and doing really stupid shit but learning in the process.

Setting doesn't matter as long as it's open to those things.

>>76793146
What kinda gun do you think Freya would like? She seems like a very vanilla rifle kinda girl.

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>>76793197
The hand doesn't look very natural in real life either.

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>>76793321
I know and its such a weird choice to of tried replicating it

>>76791244
i like it.

>>76793090
That hand is amazing.
How do you do that?
I am not artist, but man.

>>76791510
I'm presuming you don't mean Kiguri, but the other one, who did the black-and-white sketch art?

Probably anything with a bayonet so she can still use it like a spear.

What if these 'Trench-Rats' just adopt the war and keep it going? Where humans fade the rats just keep things ticking where they left off?

>>76786581
THE PERFECT COVER

>>76782537
Albedo for space. This for dieselpunk: https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/214412/

>>76791510
I know exactly what you mean, because somebody had the balls to dump that image set on this very board few months ago, but sadly no idea where they come from.

and BESM's Big Ears Small Mouse for like, Disney's The Adventures

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>>76793858
Theres two different sets of those, maybe three or four at this point with how popular skaven are in TWW2.

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>>76785477
Sorry in late to this anon. To answer your question, sweetpea loves scratches when she's in her cage. When she's out her cage, she barely sits still, and just runs around investigating everything until she gets tired lol. They're very neat, no shutting in food bowls as we trained then early on to shit in their toilet (you just put any poos you can find in one location for a few days and from then on they always shit there due to the smell. They're generally very clean and hygienic animals, and spend up to 1/3 of their waking time grooming!
>>76785431
Haha glad you enjoyed her anon! Have another oh her sleeping with her sister

>>76793528
Spot on anon.

Kiguri is great but I also really like the B&W anons cartoony style.

>>76793858
Well that's what I get for spending the last few months hiding in /cyoag/

>>76787635
>Across the countless miles of the front a new song is sung in the rare moments of levity
>No one knows who made it, and before long it was piping through the radio signals from home, despite the efforts of the brass
>A song going by the name...
"Rats with wings"

I love this thread. It is a good thread.

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>>76794879
QM truly is the best desu

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>scifi post-post apocalypese
>everything is rodents
>players
>villains
>enemies
>even the mutants and monsters

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>>76795057
Counter-argument

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>>76795714
I like Hopper but I'm a sucker for military uniforms and I prefer the quartermaster as a character more than her.

>>76787876
I like this art style

>>76796184
True, I love Secret Police Waifu

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>>76796439
Yes.

Also, its relevant here, so theres an RPG for the game. I never got around to playing it because nofriends but what I saw seemed decent enough if people want more tabletop games where they can play rats or mice.

>>76796530
Is there? Where's it at?

>>76785429
fucking hot.

Right up my ally.

>>76791510
>>76793858
The lineart Skaven special series was drawn by Skykain. I personally prefer the Clan lewd arts drawn by Muhut, but to each their own.

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>>76796574
Not sure if theres a website or anything, but they have a discord link to the server on the TnT server under annoucements.

I got the entire rulebook right here though since its free

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BkbD9FAtg9_duSuFUVKosTL8mRhyD8VKR_sHZDC9pfk/edit

>>76790167
Didn't XIV change the Viera, a race just a little bit more unique than humans with bunny ears (not knocking them), to have normal hands and feet unless you wear class-exclusive gear? XIV will never add a distinctly non-human race because they'd have to make new models for every piece of gear in the game, or so I'm told by friends who play it.

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>>76796677
They added hrothgar, though.

>>76796714
The bodies there are human. They may need to create new models for some of the helmets, but the rest of the gear I imagine would work as is by just scaling them like they do for the other races. Burmecians you'd need to alter all the leg/feet gear, likely some items in the other slots. I'm sure it could be done but it seems like Squeenix doesn't want to expend the extra effort for something like that.

>>76782537
really like the art.

>>76786651
>>76786488
>>76786581

I know this is probably self inserty stuff, but I like it.

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>>76796929
Dunno about OP but I have a bunch of the artists old art as well as another artist that has like 500+ pictures of rodents in military outfits

>>76796634
Thank you fellow rat fucker

>>76794330
like.

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>>76797036
thank

>>76797079
welcome. something about it. I wouldnt quite say comfy, though the feeling is tangential, It just has this great classic feel to it. Its not completely caked in mud and wear and mad max stuff, like she just crawled out of some 20 hour fight that some people tend to go a bit far on, but its just the right amount of banged up and world weathered too while still being cared for. Just the right amount of drab and colorful too, the green blue brown and some nice red highlights compositionally. feels warm. also, just like the design and propotions too.

Not to mention my prefered amount of detail, stuff like the crank on the crossbow and the hilt construction of the sword, and the rest of the outfit and design, while not being distractingly over detailed.

Just hits that sweet golden medium for me in pretty much every aspect. Realy enjoy.

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>>76797201
The colored pictures really do have a nice style to them yeah. Shame they dont color that many pictures, I think most of them have been posted so far already.

Minor thing thats easily missed, but the tail is carrying easy access bolts for it too.

>>76793789
What if the humans kill each other, but the Great Rat War is one giant continuous mock battle that becomes the rats' main pastime and national sport, outside of learning about science and their new domain?

>>76787863
Freya was the best ccharacter in 9

>>76797287
>but the tail is carrying easy access bolts for it too.
yah I noiced that too, its really neat. Its a novel diy thing that just seems like good flavor, like 'nam soldier with bullets in their helmet strap. just a nice touch.

Not sure what that black rod thing going into the ground is tho.

Im no artist, but stylistically, this is kinda my jam. any more cartoony and it tends to loose some of the active cool factor (something I think that Darkest dungeons just barely crosses with their slightly chibi look), while it still retains a good amount if the exaggeration that more cartoony designs are great at utilizing.

IX has a great cast as a whole. But I always loved Freya the most. Steiner and Vivi are close, though.

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>>76797367
The black pole in the ground is the flag's bottom half, and their early work and a few of the newer ones are a bit chibi looking, but none of them have color

>>76797436
>The black pole in the ground is the flag's bottom half
im retarded.
I was looking in another tab and I could only see like half of the image at once.

idk if chibi is the exact work im looking for. I dont mind this, but there is some vague uncanny valley line between overly cartoony and with too big of a head that kind of turns me a bit off. This is definitely still in the i like spectrum though.

Would like to see this artists take on the boss from mgs3, this seems up their ally stylistically. would also love to see her in the artists style, weither ratified or human.

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>>76797506
Its certainly cartoony in style, and I'm surprised they've never done any MGS art before, though personally I'd rather see more Tooth and Tail art from them and in general,as well as Advanced Wars and C&C rodents desu.

>>76797003
Post more of 'em

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>>76797810
I'll be honest, a decent amount of it feels a bit too pinupy to be posted here even if its almost all full uniforms, though I guess I've got a few warhammer related ones I can dig up instead.

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>>76797796
That would be nice. Wasnt thinking all of mgs, just specifically the boss in her olive drab from the begining. just design wise I find her just really great, and it seems like the artist likes military drab.

but agreed, tooth and tail would be nice.

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>>76797893
Yeah as I said they dont have too many colored pieces, but I'd assume a couple are olive drab, albeit the uniforms they go are more inter-war looking

>>76797936
cute.

>>76782537
Ask yourself first why you are trying to make a "ratman" setting instead of one featuring humans first.
And if the answer is anything even remotely sexual, the correct resolution is to kill yourself.

>>76797966
well, yes anon, but that doesnt relate to how the setting should be. it is tru that it might be a good idea to kill yourself, but how should the setting be before you do that (or after)

>>76796983
It's literally just a redesign of catwoman of batman fame

>>76798259
....yes, and?

That was kind of obvious with the Bruce shit and cat motif. I meant as the character behind catwomen I like it. Like the character behind spiderman or green lantern or robin changes.

>>76798319
Not him but its not anyones OC, they did poison ivy deer and cat harley as well

>>76798351
ah, I see. Thout is was someone's oc they just made catwomen or something.

>>76798351
have sauce?

>>76798351
Nah cat harley is part of DC universe apparently

>>76798375
Wick on Twitter. They are a bit deadish though

>>76796634
Actually, after looking into it I don't think either of these artists did the pics I was thinking of.

I remember the Rat Ogre waifus were ripped and stacked.

>>76798397
thanks. Just wanted to check out poison ivy deer.

>>76797877
>>76797003
maybe post a mega link? jannys are usually ok if you post links to that stuff as long as its not actually an image on the thread.

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>>76798409
Might be Yawg you are looking for unless it was pixel arty

>>76798506
I've actually been asked that before and I'd have to heavily filter some of the junk thats saved, but if you want the two I've posted mostly, its Gompami and WirelessShiba, and you can find all of their art relatively easily. Like I said though, Shiba has nearly 500 pictures alone.

>>76798563
aw well. Thanks for the artist names do. Ive personally never had problems linking to even explicit shit here, but janny enforcement is and always has been sporatic.

Maybe if there is a rat thread on /trash/ sometime. Hell, the pretty regular /warhammer/ threaad there is sometimes just a ratpic dump too. but anyways, cheers.

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>>76798604
Oh thats me too I just never get to post the non warhammer rat stuff I have

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Eh, one more picture before I go to bed

>>76794879
Where is that from?

>>76797377
Steiner is master of shenanigans and it's great

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>>76798737
Tooth and Tail

What is a better series to read - Mouse guard or Redwall?
What would you recommend to read if I like rats more? Does some of the series above feature non evil rat characters?

>>76799500
Mouseguard doesn't have rats but will take absolutely no time to burn through all the books, if you want my recommendation the Winter book and Blackaxe are easily the best in the series
When it comes to Redwall, there's maybe a singular case of a good rat. I forgot which book but I don't want to say much in case of spoilers.
But honestly the rats in Redwall are great, they're all stupidly evil and backstabby, very skaveny so unless that's a turnoff I'd reccomend reading just Mossflower and Redwall, the rest are samey but if you're desperate for more you should move onto Luke the Bellmaker

>>76797982
>top of the band-aid is over the face paint and bottom of the band-aid is under the face paint

>>76798792
I haven't been following that for ages, but is there any possible scenario that doesn't end with the pigs killing everyone?

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Speaking of mouses, does anyone has an artbook by the artist ovopack called Mito Itan?

>>76800080
If you look closer I think it's just the blood that's over the bandaid

>>76801018
As far as I know, no, the country ends up in the hands of the pigs.

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>>76797287
Always love their stuff

>>76802642
the guys face here is kinda.... vertical, though.

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>>76802542
Now it's even more confusing. Is the cut between the lines of paint, because that's where the absorbent part of the band-aid is? If it's where the blood is, then she basically put the glue part of the band-aid over the wound. It almost looks like the bottom line is smudged with blood, like she drew it with a bloody finger, since the blood does not extend beyond the green bits. How is the band-aid even sticking so good if applied over the face paint? I recall those being rather greasy.

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>>76802703
Yeah, bad habit when drawing faces. Gotta work on that

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>>76802771
Given that it's fur, it's *possible* that the actual absorbent part of the bandaid is over the wound, but the fur beneath it, where blood would go cuz gravity, is stained with said blood, and that her fingers got bloody when applying the band-aid so there's blood smeared on the top portion.
Maybe.

>>76794945
>rats with wings
don't you mean... bats?

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>>76802856
No because people sometimes refer to pilots having wings because they can fly a plane. So the rats who build those planes would, in a sense, be 'rats with wings'

moar trenchrats please

>>76802790
like the muzzle faces though. And verticality in human faces can work with the right stylistic flurishes. As an exageration. Though this guys verticality seems a bit flat. kinda like old medieval sideshots.

>>76789059
>>76787876
Is it weird to think that Ratfolk would have less of a concept of diseases since they are naturally immune to most of them?

You'd have one that is perfectly civil and polite, wants to interact with human society but keeps forgetting to clean regularly since it's not the same issue for them as us.

>>76803595
My understanding is that rats are actually very clean and spend a lot of their time grooming themselves. I could be wrong, but I imagine they'd be quite able to fit in high society in terms of individual image and cleanliness.

>>76794945
https://youtu.be/q2m80qrXM7o
I imagine it going to the tune of this little ditty

>>76803661
While that may be true, fantasy lives off stereotypes.

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>>76803438

>>76803691
I could see both being a thing. There could be the high society types that have better access to soaps and bath houses while the lower class have to do more filthy jobs that cause them to get that "filthy rat" thing going on. Despite their filthy work they at least try to keep their hands clean or something.

>>76803595
>>76803661
>>76803691
I mean... they CAN be clean. But sometimes thats somewhat overstated. Even an animal that cleans themselves (most do) can be situationally "dirty". They still enter and are pests in human society, kind of poop everywhere, and naw on food and item, and can carry flees and diseases.
Its not entirely stereotyping. Both aspects of grooming and being kind of pests and hygene hazards have some truth to them.

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>>76803783
Unless they are sick/dying the hands would most likely always be cleaned at the very least. Theres no fur on them and they lick the fingers to groom hard to reach sections when they arent doing weird spine breaking body twists for it

>>76803887
>communist rats
checks out

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>>76803960
I dont think they were communists, but I didnt read the artists lore much for them and I know there was multiple factions, but I just liked the WW1 rats they kept making

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>>76804031
Too bad they dropped it all to make art of those Ori and the Blind Forest creatures or whatever

>>76804050
sad.

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>>76804746
Terribly so!

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Honestly you could just use rats as a near 1:1 human analogue.

>>76804918
yah, well that could be said of most creatures though.

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>>76804932
But rats, with the shared history they and mankind have, are a fantastic thematic fit.

obligatory reminder to watch/read Rats of NIMH.
It was free on youtube a while back, might still be.

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>>76804949
They are also rats which is radical in itself.

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>>76804979
/co/ posts an improved version on a semi regular basis if you want it to be the best copy

>>76805026
>improved version
Explain further

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>>76805026
Uplifted rodents is such a good concept.

>>76804949
Ok I can see that. I would say rats and dogs are the most analogous to humans when comming to anthropomorphasization and exageration of traites.

>>76805045
this is a blue board, it might be best if he dosen't

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>>76805079
Your answer is not remotely what I anticipated and while that's not my thing I even more strongly feel like I need to know the details

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>>76805045
Its the remastered version or whatever, made for widescreen and all that along with whatever bonuses that should be with it? If I remember it correctly atleast, I dont have the movie saved anymore.

>>76805067
Its not used as often as I expected it to be desu

>>76804871
>Smoker
Eww.

>>76805160
What is this, Don Squeakote?

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>>76805222
IIRC its the Skritt from Guild Wars

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Woops >>76806184 was for >>76806083

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>>76809371
Wonder how their 3d prints are coming along so far. Only recall the rat ogre being teased

>>76809421
Hopefully they turn out great, it'd be one fuck of a bummer if the sculpts were fugly.

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>>76809455
The teased ones were pretty good and close to what they showed in the art desu

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>>76795057
It's amazing how the KSR genuinely did nothing wrong in the entire game.

>>76809927
Considering how...
Belafide is just out for revenge, so no long term plans for stability
Hopper is a victim of mob mentality and would hand the country over to mob rule
The Church is a bunch of psycho fuckers

Yeah the KSR is legitimately probably the best choice. Assuming that they'd step back and allow a democratically elected government to be installed after the fighting had died down.

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>>76809927
>>76810037

I'd assume they'd put a new tsarina in place, but considering how the end to the game is the death of everyone and pigs ruling it doesnt really matter I suppose

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Elves are rats, problem solved

>>76811745
but why
also sauce

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>>76812937
/tg/ artist that made a comic of an elf turning into a rat because of the ratfolk threads. Dont remember the comic name but I dont think they are active anywhere. Unrelated to these which is actually Marcille from Dungeon Meshi

>>76813117
Agrest the Thief, by SmaggTheSmug.

And I think those Marcilles are by Akunim?

>>76805222
smoking is based and funforthewholefamilypilled.

>>76809927
lord protectorate cromwell ratess when?

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>>76813787
I think the Marcilles are yeah, but I have some of Smaggs in here too. Guess its Akunim, iunno. I didnt know they did any of these.

>>76813919
Yeah, the Marcilles are from Akunim, I asked him.

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>>76814123
Neat

more when

>>76810349
It's just fun to imagine what could have been.
>tfw hopper becomes the new Tsarina

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>>76814599
They can always retcon it or handwave it off for Tooth and Tail 2. Not that I ever expect that to happen, sadly. While the setting/game still has plenty to offer and expand upon, I'm not sure they'll ever go back to it, or atleast not until they make Monaco 2 which I also dont see happening.

Think the last update I saw from the devs was some survival game in its very early stages and that was forever ago. Big problem with making a new one is that it requires the original artist and musician to produce the same effect as the first game.

>>76782537
Slurry mix. Make your ratmen interdimensional/interplanar/metatemporal fed agent types that wear flesh masks to blend in with the humans.

>>76788180
Funnily enough and despite my intentions, I think 'The Trench-Rats' work much better as a setting component then a player-race.

>>76795328
So the world as made by Skaven?

>>76814929
You could do a game as the trench rats. Have it so the players can gain influence and guide their developing society towards cooperation with the humans, conflict with the humans or just avoid/hide from the humans.

That way you can play it as diplomatic, stealth, or full murder hobo

>>76815429
Of course you COULD do a campaign as the trench rats, there's a lot of fun to be had there. But there's a certain mystique about playing as a soldier on a front where the once silly-seeming rumours of supernatural phenomenon suddenly become uncomfortably plausible. Which rumours are true? Are the rats really whispering conspiracy or are they just trying to get by like everyone else? Do the craters in no-mans-land REALLY belong to corpses bloated with rainwater who want nothing more to drag you down? Were those shapes in the smoke you saw really biplane-hunting drakes? It could all be bullshit, fantasies spawned from strained and breaking minds.
Then again, it could all be true.

https://youtu.be/lb_e3xpkRnw
Who here wants nothing more then to explore an industrial cityscape filled with the technology of settings like dishonored or frostpunk?
Rats make a fantastic population for such a timeframe.

>>76815663
Ah so going almost full weird war but leaving it to the players to figure out what's what

>>76815690
Bingo. The rats are the most likely *real* thing. And could take the form of impartial merchants when you discover that yeah, they're very real. Sadly, the 'bank notes' (do the rats actually have a king??? His portraits on the note...) the rats want to pay you in aren't accepted anywhere else.

>>76815681
dunno dishonored always seemed really ugly and unappealing to me

>>76814929
For what it's worth, you inspired me to do a Dieselpunk/Dark Fantasy setting based on the idea that when the first World War breaks out, it causes magic to start flooding back into the world, and the more humanity keeps poking at magic's manifestations (and killing each other on a grand scale), the more heavily inundated the planet is getting, so they're literally "terrorforming" the world into something that will be completely unrecognizable to the world before the War.

Which is only a bad thing if you insist on playing the world like a bunch of 40K rejects.

>>76815858
>Dishonored
>Ugly
You perplex the fuck outta me.

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>>76815858
I may have a theory as to why...

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>>76814158
Is this what you wanted, anon?

>>76816215
Maybe ugly isn't right. Unappealing, I stand by that though. I don't think the studio did a bad job, quite the opposite. I just don't enjoy looking at what they created

>>76813117
>30 second fetish sketches by literal who
>people always remember the name or dig it out because lewd
why are people like this? people still circulate my lewd no effort sketches and none of my better art

>>76816476
Because it came from the heart, not the head.

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>>76782537
>rat man focused
Just skip the "man" and "folk" shit and make it just about rats doing shit Redwall style.

>>76816499
It takes a more skilled GM then I to pull off the "permanent underdog" idea.

>>76817031
Just Watership Down them, but rats. Prince of a thousand enemies. World cold and deadly, yet somehow, against all odds, mice managed to carve a civilization desite it all. You are survivors. Fate has conspired against you, defy it for as long as you can until fate bends.

>>76816413
Not him, but I'll take it!

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>>76815681
>Frostpunk
Absolutely Based.

>>76818184
I love this nigga like you wouldnt believe
https://youtu.be/TNbAPqASxHg

>>76819144
He's a good rat. Quality husbando

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>>76816413
I have those already actually desu

>>76816476
I liked those drawings of that bat lady from that one comic, though I'm drawing a bit of a blank right now on what else you've done on /co/

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>>76819742
The portrait awards made it so much more worthwhile to get to them. I dont understand why no other ranked system has such great art as an incentive to reach the next rank.

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Why aren't these rodents wearing shoes?

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>>76819819
Some animals sweat through their feet, some have weird anatomy I.E hooved creatures probably shouldnt wear any, rats have some weird looking feet and stuffing them into a human pair of boots isnt going to work too good.

I prefer footwraps and other partially footwear that lets the weird toe splay they have stay free but covers the rest of the foot and ankle area

>>76787446
It's not untranslatable, you moron. good localization exists.
There is no interest for the oversea market, that kind of humor is difficult to understand for the USA

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>>76819781
Ain't that the truth.
I fucking suck at the game though so earning ranks was always a tall order.

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>>76819957
The highest I hit before they reset everything was Firebrand, after that I just never managed to find the time to play it again, and I was never too good at RTS games despite liking them and playing multiplayer. If it was some crazy 4vs4 mode on a giant map I think I'd of been able to dump so many more hours into it

Neat thing about the game is that you can freely edit the faction hex colors as much as you want, as well as mod in new sprites which also retain said hex color alters. Quartermaster had a skaven chieftain skin and Archimedes had a grey seer one as well and both were pretty damn good looking. Think they made skinks and saurus with the lizards too, on top of the generous amount of different sprites for all the units in game minus the structures.

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>>76819939
Yes. I am aware that good localization exists, that wasn't the point of the post: what I've written is a literal quote from the comicbook itself, Brakko says that when the rat goes to america.

Now, here's your (You) Mr.Sperg who flames people on the 4channel for such retard reasons, do you really crave feeling smarter than others that much?

>>76816498
yeah the "heart"
and of course everything but lewds is insincere and boring, congrats 10/10 coomer mindset

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>You encounter 3 priests, bathing at the temple.
>What do you ask of them?

>>76809514
Hmm, strange neck and no fur, not good

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RATMAN?!

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>>76821374
How can we defeat the man-things?

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>>76821465
Step 1: Find their biggest supah fightan' robot
Step 2: Build a bigger one.

>>76820623
>everything but lewds is insincere and boring

Who said that?

>>76821667
You said that coom is from the "heart" instead of the "head", so you implied that what isn't coom is a product of cold planning with no "heart".

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Thread will probably archive by the time I wake up, but hey, good thread. Hope we can get another one going soon.

>>76821792
>>76821667
You fools, coom comes from the knees, everyone knows that. Back of the knees, even!

>>76821792
No, I implied that the quick sketch was done without too much thinking about it, so it came from the "heart" while a bigger, more elaborate piece requires time and talent, meaning you need your "head" to do it. And getting all the poses and colours right, the detail down, etc. might actually redact from the charm of a simple fun sketch.

>>76785053
SweetPea is cute! Cute!

>>76823588
>this much backpedaling
whatever, nobody cares about the simple fun sketches that aren't coom

>>76821374
where their fur

>>76823694
>backpedaling

I'm not responsible for what you make up.

>nobody cares about the simple fun sketches that aren't coom

Nice projection.

>>76824037
Some rats ain't got no fur.

>>76824157
>>76823694
>>76823588
>>76821792
both of you could drop dead

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>>76829567
Not exactly the best way to end the thread desu

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This thread is going in the book

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>>76819764
I dunno who that guy is, but lewd no effort sketches are all I got -- I have no 'better art'.
Thank you for likin' my bats and reminding me of Ratcille, though

>>76829623
I still miss her guys. She pretty much "made" Endtown for me.

>>76829848
CUTE!

>>76829848
You draw a grade-a rat my dude!
Ratcille a cute.

>>76813117
>Dont remember the comic name but I dont think they are active anywhere
Oh, I am here. But I am kinda done with the comic
The guy who drew those Mousilles can be found under https://twitter.com/smekbo
https://twitter.com/isatorus

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>>76829848

But what if
Rat Thistle

>>76830224
Who now?

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Sex, a lot
Also a lot of allied monarchies like England after they stole the lands and money from the church

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>>76830273
The Mad Sorcerer.

>>76782537
ratmen don't exist. Wait here for the witch-hunter.

>>76830611
But if ratmen don't exist then why do we need a witch hunter?

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>>76829926

We doing another thread after this?
>>76830867
For Witches.

>>76830872
At a certain point the tragedy slideshow stops having impact, if EVERYTHING is shit, then there's no reason to care.

>>76830872
Where things began to go wrong, both for her and the comic.

Well, apart from a certain other character.

>>76831212
Truth.

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>>76830930
Here's 1 vote for ratty repeat thread

>>76832143
Hear Hear

>>76832143
Great, see you in 2 months after we actually count those votes.