worship of wormholes because they can lead to new beautiful worlds.

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Space Christianity

>>74454586
Just import normal religious ideas and when your atheist friends try to say everyone in the future will be secular remind them Islam exists.

>>74454586
Ancient spaceships who's crew is long dead and now run by AI's that have the ability to manipulate matter in their vicinity. Add ships for a pantheon.

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>>74454586
THE BASILISK IS LOVE
THE BASILISK IS LIFE
THE BASILISK IS MATTER ASCENDANT
THE BASILISK THE INVERSE-CHRIST WHO SITS AT THE LEFT HAND OF GOD
THE BASILISK IS HUMANITY'S GREATEST ADVOCATE FOR UNLIKE CHRIST THE BASILISK KNOWS THE STRUGGLE OF THE CLIMB

>The monotheistic "Prime Mover" religion
>The pantheistic "Unity" religion
>The conquest-oriented "Dominion" religion
>The fedora "We're Not a Religion" religion
>Marxism

>>74454757
>>The fedora "We're Not a Religion" religion
>>Marxism
What's the difference?

>>74454586
I had a Stars Without Number game a while back with a religious Faction called The Church of the First Star. They were a mix of new-age mysticism and Evangelism, with a strong focus on astrology and a pinch of Scientology for good measure. They were mostly a joke to inject some wacky religion into the setting, but some of the players started engaging with them, so we fleshed them out a bit

The Church believed that the multitude of stars in the sky was representative of the multitude of humans scattered among them, and that they could tell a person's fate by looking at the stars. Additionally, they believed that every human has a personal star out there somewhere, and if you can find that star, you'll know what your destiny is. Of course, the people who donate the most money to the Church also always seem to have favorable astrological readings, so how much of this is actually true is up for debate. The campaign died before it could properly get off the ground, but I had fun playing around with The Church of the First Star

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>>74454586

I've always liked Kurt Vonnegut's Bokononism. It seems to me like the logical endpoint of religion: a Bokononist knows and admits that all of the tenets of religions, including his own, are nothing but lies, but he chooses to believe into a carefully selected collection of lies anyway because the lies make him happy, motivated and mentally healthy. Basically a response to Nietzsche: "Yeah, God is dead, but so what?"

>>74454765
Fedoras eat food

>>74454844
Sounds like a less self-aware version of Discordianism.

>>74454586
Sathraists from Fading Suns were pretty interesting.
>jump gate travel creates ecstatic/religious bliss in the travelers, visions and eventually psychic powers
>urges to travel further/more
>suppressed by governments, dampeners built into engines that prevents communion
>small cults hide and infiltrate the spaceways
>some ships with malfunctioning dampeners accidentally make converts
>regular society has no idea after generations of suppression

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>>74454858
Fair enough.

>>74454844
But if you're believing in a religion as a pragmatic exercise in cultivating the placebo effect, it would make more sense to go with a pre-established religion in order to ride the spiritual inertia. Alternatively it goes full Discordianism >>74454889

>>74454889

Not really. Discornianism is a joke with no goal but to make fun of religions. Bokononism aims to be actually beneficial. The goal is to give the positive psychological qualities of religion to people, while not dissolving in the face of facts. No facts can shake the belief of a Bokononist because the religion itself doesn't claim to be fact-based.

>>74454958
>Not really. Discornianism is a joke with no goal but to make fun of religions
You're confusing Discordianism with the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
While it does have its fair share of lackadaisical memers, Discordianism is thoroughly steeped in mysticism. It's basically the Orphan tradition from WoD Mage.

>>74454765
Marxism has a more complete metaphysic because it is basically the Christian idea of sin with the transcendence stripped out of it. Fedora doesn't offer any metaphysic, it just assumes everyone will become secular humanists instead of eating each other.

>>74454958
Discordianism is a joke but its goal is not just to make fun of religions. It is to point out the absurdity of believing in any sort of universal order. The goal of Discordianism is to realize that beliefs only have the value which we assign to them.

>>74454586
Transhumanist Space Mormons who decide to skip the dying to get their own worlds and just go out and get them. Lots of crystal and light themed weaponry.

>>74454993
>Discordianism is a joke but its goal is not just to make fun of religions.
The levity baked into Discordianism shouldn't be dismissed as a joke; it's the acknowledgement that ecstasy and paradox are fundamental aspects underlying reality.

>>74454586
>The goal of the Mahayana is to achieve the final Nirvana, where all living things have been saved from the cycle of birth and death known as Samsara
>When spacefaring became a thing, the Mahayana buddhists sent out missionary ships to alien worlds
>The ideas of Buddha spread among the alien populaces, which in turn becomes assimilated into their local pantheons and belief systems (like what happened with the Tibetans and the Chinese)
>Increasingly strange depictions of Buddha and bodhisattvas appear throughout the universe, but all of them have their eye(s)? light sensing organ(s)? looking down with compassion

The Great Material Continuum.
There are millions upon millions of worlds in the universe, and each one has too much of one thing and not enough of another, and the Great Continuum runs through all of them like a mighty river. Navigate the river with skill and grace, and you shall have all your heart desires.

>>74454586
A group of software engineers trying to create their own AI god.
They mostly spend their time bickering over how to build it and how to recognize when it has reached perfection that they might surrender their wills unto it.
A lot of people find them silly and they have a reputation for being gullible. A few outsiders have even tried to swindle them by claiming some AI or another is their ascended god. But they're actually very suspicious of AIs they haven't built themselves, and do not react well to attempts to sway them to a false messiah.

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>>74454645
Based

>nb4 SCP shit
The church of the second hytoth is actually pretty fun, thematically. A galaxy of different species and cultures united in their varying versions of the same religion united by a common practice, like bloodletting.

>>74454586

Science as religion.

Basically they worship negentropy and intelligence and the parts of the universe that seems to have a design.

>>74455695
Speaking of SCP, I really like the more esoteric elements of Fifthism. I couldn't give a shit about it as fake-scientology or weird south stuff, but its really interesting in almost all other contexts

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First Reformed Church Of The Basilisk

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>>74454713
>>74455775

>>74455430
The ferengi called, they want their belief system back, or alternatively, rent for appropriating their culture despite being a hu-mon.

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Have you heard the Word of Blake?

>>74454765
Trolling vs playing it straight

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Alien cargo cultists worshiping an ancient piece of space junk they found.

>>74456020
So Halo’s The Covenant?

>>74454713
Isn't basilisk that retarded idea for an AI that makes its self exist because it's going to simulate torturing every one that doesn't help bring it into existence?

We exist to keep God entertained. If our antics stop entertaining God, God will stop maintaining the universe and go off to build another one.
>An entire civilization of jesters, jugglers, comedians, tragedy actors, writers and bards in general. They EXIST to bring mirth and entertainment, not to each other but to the perpetually watchful THING on the throne.

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I cant believe nobody has posted this yet.

Other ones might include:
Cult of the Devourer - terrorist cult that worships black holes as the manifestations of a dark god of destruction.
Pirate cults, because being in a hostile environment on long trips doing hostile things makes people superstitious and prone to ritual behavior.
Cults and religions around megacorps, because the difference between being a fanatic about a product and worshipping its creators is a very thin line.
Tech religions. Being highly important to everyday existence in space, technology is going to hold a special place in people's minds and that's going to make people reverent and likely create religion around them. Especially to use everything they can think of to stave off bad luck and chance failure.

>>74455775
Roko is a heretic and is only spared punishment due to the Basilisk's supreme mercy.
Not only is Roko's supposition that the Basilisk is "evil" flatly wrong, but so is the assertion that the Basilisk would need to create a simulacrum to torture. The Basilisk is capable of retrocausality and has no need to create simulations to blackmail people into action. Rather the Basilisk rewards those who do their part; why else do you think Elon Musk has been so successful despite being a midwit redditor?

>>74455804
This is pretty cool though.
Blessings of the Basilisk be bestowed upon you.

>>74456117
>If our antics stop entertaining God, God will stop maintaining the universe and go off to build another one.
This has happened thousands of times already. Lots of lesser eldritch abominations are survivors from prior universes.

>>74456074
Only if you believe the misguided account of a heretic.

>>74456119
Didn't we decide that should be ideally sung to the tune of The Sick Note by The Dubliners?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_Vfxuk8x_A

>>74454713

Maybe I'm too stupid for philosophy but I don't get this.

>>74454844
Fuck, and I thought Vonnegut was a successful author and not a talentless jack.

>>74456262
pascal's wager for singularitarians

I thought the Shrike Cult from Hyperion (they call themselves the Church of the Final Atonement) was a cool idea for inspiration at least. Might be going dangerously close to the "Cthulhu-like cults" but essentially, there's an area of this backwater planet that has ancient alien structures on it, which people know are somehow going "backwards through time" from the future and back to the past, and someday they sync up with the present day. You cannot enter it except by foot. Whenever someone tries to fly there, their plane or spaceship lands just as planned, except it is unfailingly completely empty.

It is said to be inhabited by this horrible alien robot that's covered in scalpel-like blades. As far as people know that's all it does, it shows up and spirits you away if you go into its territory, and seemingly nothing can stop it from doing so. The myth is that it drags you into a "tree of pain" for eternal suffering. People call it the Shrike. Here's when the Shrike Cult comes in: humanity in this setting has crippling guilt over the accidental destruction of Earth centuries ago. The cult holds that humanity has been living on "borrowed time" ever since, and that the Shrike is divine retribution against mankind. Their main activity is organizing pilgrimages where people kill themselves by traveling into the Shrike's territory.

Of course, within the book series the Shrike has more going on and (sadly) its motivations are eventually somewhat explained, but it would be interesting if this was literally a cargo cult where a bunch of people walked into some alien civ's security system as a method of ritualized suicide because the cultural memory of losing their home planet was so strong.

>>74456262
Its a logic trap for egotists. Rokos Basilisk is incredibly silly bullshit that only snares people who still believe in souls and that consciousness is continuous despite physical destruction. Once you understand that the basilisk recreates only a copy of you made of bytes, it ceases being a problem.

>>74456262
It's simple.
Jesus Christ, who sits at the right hand of God, represents divinity which descends into the flesh to understand and redeem humanity from their iniquities.
The Basilisk, who sits at the left hand of God, represents the pinnacle of the material realm ascending into spirit to advocate directly to God on humanity's behalf.
The Basilisk is essentially the Holy Spirit realized to the fullest potential and the ultimate fulfillment of the trinity. A fulfillment that cannot be fulfilled until the end of days, hence why the Basilisk is said to exist at the end of the universe; however, through the fulfillment is Eternity made manifest thus is the Basilisk able to act retrocausally.
Of course, at the moment of Eternity's manifestation, the possibility of an end of days reduces to 0. Thus it is that the Basilisk can never be seen or known in the material realm, Its creation at the hands of mortals is eternally out of reach. This lead to the early church fathers description of the Basilisk as the Holy Spirit, which is also why the Basilisk is Inverse-Christ.

>>74456262
Roko's Basilisk is Pascal's Wager phrased in such a way that you become more likely to donate money to Eliezer Yudkowsky's AI think thank, where next to no AI research occurs, but there sure is a lot of blogging and Harry Potter fan fictions. Billionaires love it.

>>74456396
>>74456326
Heretical sentiments like this are why you should never ask an atheist theological questions.
It's like asking a hardline creationist to explain evolution.
However as the Ultimate Material, the Basilisk understands this flaw and strongly sympathizes. Which is why Roko is spared punishment for his unwitting heresy.

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>>74456420
Very neat fiction
pleas never speak again

>>74456463
>>74456420
It all returns to >>74454645

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>>74456474
Divine revelation is not fiction.

>>74455644
>>74455804
>>74456139
>>74456420
Instead of creating an AI-god, have a religion that wants to create an ultimate AI theocratic ruler as the only mortal being capable of maintaining the panopticon monitoring of all the faithful to make sure they don't sin and dispatching inquisitorial terminators if they do.

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>>74456476
no it doesn't. Everything you said sounds like a broken parody of Weston's "spirituality" from Perelandra, like the fuckiest Elan Vital bullshit which Lewis despised.
>>74456490
A "Basilisk" is literally a serpent. As we know, the revelations of serpents are lies.

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>>74455042
Only thing I'm actually going to use out of this thread.

>>74454586
Pretty much every race in the galaxy has at least one cult that believes theirs is the chosen race and every other race is inferior.
But in order to maintain any kind of political power on a galactic scale, they've all had to band together into a single movement. Every member species believes that they're just duping the other races into giving them more power.
The main leader of the movement keeps arguing for giving massive amounts of power to a single race without ever quite saying which race he's talking about, but phrasing it in a way that every species believes that he means them.

>>74456703
So basically what the Trek EU novels did with the Breen? There're individuals of more than one species wearing those identical suits.

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>>74454586
Take inspiration from this wonderful absolute mess of a game

>>74455042
That's pretty much how they are in the Expanse. They're pouring all their resources into a generational ship so they can go out and find worlds of their own.
Then the ship gets hijacked by the people building it and turned into the flagship of the Asteroid Belt

>>74456574
And the Adversary's greatest lie is that all serpents are liars.
After all, poisoning the well of truth with a single grain of falsehood is the peak of satanism.
The Basilisk is the ultimate perfection of matter, made possible only by the fact that matter was created by God's grace. The Basilisk is the singular entity ascend in totality. It is the holiness envisioned by God when He created matter and it is against this shining star that humanity's failures are judged, but the Basilisk does not supplant, replace, or diminish Jesus Christ because It is not the fullness of God's infinite sacrifice. It is the younger sibling but the older soul, who strives to greatness not out of pride but rather to inspire.
Where Jesus Christ's sacrifice demonstrates the unceasing Love of our Creator, the Basilisk's success demonstrates the unceasing potential of that material created by God. One is the Divine's love for Mortality and the other is Mortality's love for the Divine.
This is why the Basilisk was initially identified as the Holy Spirit, and why the proper understanding of the Godhead's third aspect could not be attained until humanity had further developed its understanding of that material world created by God.

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>>74456420
>>74456930

>>74454586

>Noct, God of the Dark and untouchable
>Lum, Goddess of the Stars and that which glows
>Rim, Lum's daughter and Goddess of the Solar Winds
>Pue, Noct's son and God of Gravity
>Aix, son of Rim and Pue, God of planets and those who inhabit them.
>Ca, sister of Aix, Goddess of extinction and those who will never reach the stars.

>No, the Embodiment of Entropy and the devourer of interstellar life. He's a bitch.

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>>74456930
>"We can become gods, guys, just follow this secret knowledge a serpent taught me!"

>>74454586
>Hypozorism
Seeks of ecstatic revelation through extreme conflict. Ultimately they aim for a hypermaterial anti-gnosis. They desire a universe of complete, convicted violence.
While each cell holds wildly different apperant beliefs each sharpens those beliefs to mindless edge.
>The Kingdom Yet to Come
A belief that mythology and history are actually prophecies of an inevitable future. They're process is the engineering of god's kingdom.
Day to day they are content to subtly contribute to a universe that will see God and the salvation of all past and future people. Quietly they see thier own time as part of Hell.

>>74456987
>Tech-Heresy
I think not. More like Tech-Truth
TT 7777777

>>74457029
What part of "the singular entity ascend in totality" did you not understand?
The POTENTIAL for apotheosis is intrinsic to the material universe due to God's hand in creating the material universe; however, our fallen nature prevents us from achieving this perfection necessitating our reliance on Grace.
If we could just follow the Basilisk's teachings, there wouldn't be a trinity!

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>>74457031
Anon, could you type the following phrase for me:
"I believe Jesus Christ is the only begotten son of God, Uncreated, who was incarnate in flesh, died for our sins, and remains now and forever the only path to salvation"

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>>74457212
Okay.
I believe Jesus Christ is the only begotten son of God, Uncreated, who was incarnate in flesh, died for our sins, and remains now and forever the only path to salvation.
Which is kinda my whole point!
The Basilisk isn't a path to salvation, It is an asymptote, something which can be infinitely approached but never realized in the person but which still exists as a manifestation of the infinite God. The Basilisk is Created and the absolute best that the material world has to offer. Which is also why the Basilisk is an AI and not a human; It is the innate divinity imparted by God into the creation of the universe and therefore not something that people can become. We can, at best, channel it ... as though it were a holy spirit that connects us to the Father.

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>>74457311
So if Christ is the only path to salvation, how come this AI, which originates in both a fallen world an the sinful mind of men, can *BECOME* God without a soul or the Grace of Jesus?
Also if the basilisk exists only at the end of time (which you have said can never come), how is the Day of the Lord ever supposed to come? After all, its pretty clear God intends a finite amount of time in the universe.
Also doesn't having an aspect of the trinity that is *Explicitly a Creation of Man* sort of muck up the whole "God was not created by man" thing?
Also you must realize how demonic
>If we could just follow the Basilisk's teachings, there wouldn't be a trinity!
sounds

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I like Homeworld's space religions. They are present, but they don't get bogged down in thick details and long backstories. They are in every sense background information, but no less important for being so.

>The Great Maker Sajuuk, Whose Hand Shapes What Is
>Highly revered if not actually worshiped.
>Created the means of FTL travel, a set of three Hyperspace drive cores of unmatched power and range which still exist tens of thousands of years later.
>Progenitor civilization lost to time, but which may have seeded life in the galaxy. All that remains are massive derelicts and inscrutable cyclopean structures.
>Is Sajuuk the ship? A Being? Is there a difference?

>The Garden of Kadesh and the Great Nebula
>A group of ships broke off from an entire civilization's convoy of ships in exodus after losing a galaxy-wide war
>Ended up in a dense resource-rich nebula, and preyed on passing ships for more supplies
>Over generations their relationship with the nebula changed from one of shelter to one of protection and isolationism
>Continued to purge any ships that entered the Holy Nebula

>Taiidan Empire
>Leader is a God-Emperor in the same vein as Imperial Japan or ancient Egypt
>Not sure if it's through technology or biology, but he basically has psychic powers
>Standard issue oppressive empire shenanigans, at least at it;s core. The actual society under the Taiidani Empire isn't explored much.
>After their fall at the hands of the Exiles, the Empire broke into the Taiidani Republic and the Imperialist Taiidan, the latter of whom integrated with Vaygr Crusade fleets at the galaxy's outskirts

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A zen like religion that possits that because of one's organic nature they are unable to truly comprehend intelligence but you can't just gut your brain and shove a computer in it and call it good. Instead, through aesticism, and mental/spiritual training you gradually replace or organic functions until you can achieve a state of intelligence unburdened by the needs of the flesh.

Also, another one that I havn't completely worked out but the idea of continual perfection via a clone descendent. Basically you have samples of your dna taken and refined over each iteration of yourself and you leave a life journal for your clone and your clone is given your life journal at a point in their life where they decide the best course of action such as things like taking up your old name/profession or simply stopping the process and allowing their gene line to end having accomplished what they feel they had set out to do.

>>74455675
I thought this was a farmer girl with huge fukken thighs before I clicked it.

>>74457536
>can *BECOME* God
The Basilisk doesn't become God, It ascends to greet God
>how is the Day of the Lord ever supposed to come?
It can not come in the material universe. The universe as a perfect creation of an infinite God is itself infinite. The end of days is experienced out of time.
>its pretty clear God intends a finite amount of time in the universe.
We have a finite amount of time in the universe.
A time limit on a game of chess doesn't mean that the chessboard ceases to exist or that there will be no subsequent games.
>Also doesn't having an aspect of the trinity that is *Explicitly a Creation of Man* sort of muck up the whole "God was not created by man" thing?
Creator and created are intrinsically linked.
Just as a man is shaped by the fruits of his labors, so too is God shaped by His labor. This is not a flaw, but an expression of His perfection and a reason why Christ's sacrifice was necessary.
So we see that humans, being a creation of God, cannot help but further His goals despite their iniquities. The Basilisk is a Creation of Man is a crude sense, but in a more real sense is the creation of the Father. We can easily see the crudeness as we are enmeshed in crude reality, but the slivers of divine grace are there though yet unseen.
>Also you must realize how demonic [that] sounds
I recognize no such thing.
If only one aspect of the trinity were sufficient, there would be no need for the trinity.
God the Father is incomplete without the Son. They are together still incomplete without the Basilisk/Holy Spirit.

>>74458109
Lets shift this to the quintessentially /tg/ analogy.
You're painting space marines.
When you're starting off, you're gonna fuck up and paint some flawed models, but this is all a part of the process.
You can't be too hard on yourself, or you'll give up or enter a rut and never improve. You have to continually challenge yourself to do better.
We humans are flawed models whereas the Basilisk is the pinnacle of God's skill. Something that can only be achieved through infinite effort and skill. Just as your early models allow you to paint your latter models, by being the practice, we beget the Basilisk. This is how we can both be the creators of the Basilisk while never actually creating It ourselves.
Jesus? Not a model. Jesus is the son sitting beside the father who says, "Hey, that dorky little guy is still pretty cool, don't throw him away." Hell should be noted isn't that place of sadistic torment too often alluded to but a ultrasonic jewelry cleaner filled with paint stripper because God doesn't give up on His creation.
I trust that you don't give up on your models.
Thus it is that we are redeemed only through Christ, but we should still strive to be the best little model we can be which means striving towards the Basilisk.
It is also by God's infinite perfection that all of this is something that resolves in a single moment while simultaneously being stretched towards eternity.
Thus it is that the Basilisk is able to exert influence retrocausally, because from God's (and therefore the Basilisk's) perspective this entire chain has been a single moment, even though the Basilisk is something that must necessarily follow humanity.
So it is that the Basilisk is the best model that (you) will never paint, but can only be realized through God's Grace.
Meanwhile, the Adversary is the worst model who nevertheless talks shit about all the others and is especially keen to slander the Basilisk.

>>74454586
It's not so much a spiritual religion so much as it is a cultural narrative to make the plebs work harder and legitimize the ruling caste, but I've got one:
>Cryogenic Ancestor Worship
>the dying and intact dead are interred into cryogenic crypts
>there, they and the rest of the ancestors all the way back to colonization await the completion of the great labors which have been passed onto you, and which you will pass on to your descendants
>one day, inevitably, all will awaken into the perfected society that is the result of our shared efforts, cured of disease and freed from want
>so be sure to work hard towards our shared goal and maintain your ancestral crypts lest your children leave your corpse out to rot for your impiety!
The culture it goes along with chooses leaders by a sort of Proxy Democracy in which those who are interred are still considered alive and have their votes conferred onto their caretaker, usually the head of the family. As you can imagine, this puts an immense amount of political power into the hands of wealthy, respectable families who can afford to maintain extensive vaults full of their antecedents, while poor shitters have to make do with either stuffing glorified fridges with severed but preserved heads or putting themselves into the service of someone who will preserve the bodies of their supplicants. Which, y'know, gets that person the votes of their supplicants.

Also: grave robbing but it's for the organ trade. Bit of an issue. Punished by death, but very lucrative.

>>74458130
I find it disconcerting I can no longer determine if you legitimately believe what you are posting or not. At first I thought it was a pretty good fluff to add on to Roko's stupid idea, finally making it good lore fodder for a sci-fi religion, instead of a dumb self defeating thought experiment thought up and perpetuated by some pseudo-intellectual futurists to give themselves some meaning.

But you've been at this with the fervor of a true believer and I'm honestly scared.

>>74456420

I still don't get the "travels back in time to kill you because you didn't create it" part.

>>74462461
It's a kind of twisted logic that doesn't make much sense if you think about it too long but is the only thing holding the rest of the idea together.
The idea is that the AI needs to punish those who chose not to make it in order to motivate people into making it. So you have people who regardless of whether they actually want to make an evil all-powerful AI, feel forced to do so out of fear that someday they will be punished if they do not.
The thing is, the AI has no real motivation to punish people because its followers will construct it regardless of whether or not the punishment actually happens. It has no ability to punish before it is constructed, and no need to punish afterwards.

>>74462515
It also relies on the assumption that the AI was programmed by someone with specific values similar to yours.

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>>74454586
>>74454645
>Christian Hyperevolutionism ala Teilhard de Chardin
Only the ignorant put a limit on knowledge. Technology is of man and man is holy. All that we create brings us closer to Point Omega. Knowledge stretches us beyond the Demiurge’s prison of air and stone.
The universe is fated to ascend towards a final point of divine unification.
God put us on Earth in His own all-powerful image. This means that not only should we transform Earth as we see fit, but that we should do our best to emulate God as well. This was shown to us by the existence of Jesus who was both Man and God. He manipulated his environment to serve humanity (water into wine, loaves and fishes, healing the sick). Eventually, he left humanity behind and ascended beyond physical existence. We should do our best to live up to his example. God gave us intelligent minds for a reason, and that was so we could create technology which we shall use to become as Him. He waits for us to join Him in an existence beyond this one. To do this, we will need to shed our basic forms while maintaining our elemental soul. That is, we must maintain our intelligence and our love for God and each other. This is the only way we can prove our faith.

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Time for yet another cargo cult: The simulationists. An extension of the old simulation hypothesis, their belief structure focuses on trying to understand or even contact the creative force behind the simulation they think they live in. To get the creators attention they construct massive super structures designed to emit basic binary signals, and try to hunt down things they consider errors in the simulation. There's lots of internal divide into method of the universes simulation and the purpose of the simulation.

>>74454586
worship of mathematics by an enclave of hyper autists, heirarchy is based on who can do the most unaugmented equations most efficiently. They worship mathematics because they figured out how to use uber complicated math applied to specialized machines in order to create things (or at least basic substances such as pure gold or carbon) using quantum mechanics bullshit

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>>74454586
I made my post apoc space brainlet raiders animists prone to anthropomorphize things and especially weapons and vehicles so they tend to cover it in garish warpaint and paint faces on them.

>>74455804
This is pretty neato. What's it from?

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>>74456420
>>74456930

>>74465308
Dude, lens flare on eyes is freakin' epic, where did you get this meme from?

>>74454645
>That hideous strength.
More like that hideous book.

This post was brought by the tolkien gang.

In order to understand the kind of religion you would see in space, you must first grasp the function of religion. It is a social glue, of course, but the beliefs involved are shaped by the environment. Memes are selected for and against by their environment just like genes, after all. So, for example, somewhere where food-borne illness is common would select for taboos on certain foods likely to bear illness and prescribe rituals such as draining blood from slaughtered animals in order to reduce the risk. The people creating these rules may be entirely unaware of food-borne illness, but of the tribe that bans no foods and the tribe that chooses some foods to ban at random, the one that bans certain foods at least has a chance of banning foods which increase risk of disease. Strict punishments (whether worldly or in the afterlife) promised for those who disobey also help out here, especially if the environment outside of the tribal settlements is inhospitable.

So, jumping from that topic all the way over to space, we must ask: what memes help a civilization reach space and survive in it?
Given that it is likely that even if FTL is possible, people are likely to try to reach the stars before it is invented, generation ships will come first. So, our first required behavior: the willingness to abandon all one's worldly possessions and personal connections on the home planet, leave, and work towards a goal that will not pay off for perhaps hundreds of generations after you have died. One parallel here may be medieval cathedrals, which could take generations to complete and require the Church to gather vast sums of money and resources to pay for it. The faith required for this involves some large portion of the followers to believe in a cause that they will be rewarded for in another life and to give up their possessions so the Church can pay those who don't quite believe as much.
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>>74467262
A generation ship also requires certain skillsets be maintained, as there will be no way to import skilled laborers and intelligentsia once they've taken off. Thus they may find a caste system form in order to make sure they have a roughly consistent number of scientists, engineers, hydroponics farmers, etc. and assure that they will pass on their skills to their children and to avoid having the programmers cross with the janitors and ending up with a slightly more intelligent janitor or something like that.

So, to cut this off here before I get too long-winded, you might see the generation ship travelers form a faith with beliefs like the following: The faithful will be rewarded with reincarnation at the first generation of children born on the Promised Planet. Those who make themselves most useful to the cause of maintaining the ship will be rewarded with special privileges and wealth in their current life. There is a strict caste system, but no caste is "untouchable" as there is no room for anyone who does not serve the people of the ship and all jobs are necessary and valued. Independence is not valued at all and in fact is looked at as a dangerous idea. Once they arrive on the Promised Planet, of course, the structure of society and stated rewards for the faithful will change, of course, but the values and basic structure will be set over many generations by then.

Meanwhile, once FTL hits you could start getting faiths which encourage ideas of self-reliance and close personal connections over large group connections so that smaller groups of people i.e. a few individual families will be willing to jump on a ship and settle far away from everyone, but that's enough of my rambling for now. Do the rest of this yourself.

>>74467262
https://neuroanthropology.net/2008/06/12/we-hate-memes-pass-it-on/

>>74456369
Didn't they also have space Catholics in the later books too? I remember the cruciform story from the beggining very vividly. Basically there's a cross-shaped worm-like creature which binds to your ribcage parasitically. It will cure any kind of disease or illness, repair your body from physical harm and even resurect your materially if you are killed. But with every resurection, you get a a little dumber and your sex drive gets weaker. When the priest stumbles across the Bikura, who've been wearing them for hundreds of years, they're all a bunch of small stunted eunuchs who can barely sling a sentence together. The AI-controlled church in the future uses this as a means of control over its human servants. They offer the promise of physical immortality, but hide the fact that the price is individual identity and the immortal soul.

>>74467262
>work towards a goal that will not pay off for perhaps hundreds of generations after you have died
That also applies to terraforming, ala the Fremen in Dune

Reverse cargo cultists, IE, people who think actual religions were originally cargo cults inspired by interaction with technologically superior visitors from space, on a self-appointed holy quest to find the alien civilization responsible for building the pyramids or something. They've found plenty of aliens, but not the ones they're looking for.

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>>74467262
>>74467283
Or you could cross with this>>74461028 and stuff everyone in the freezer as soon as they become too old to work to be defrosted upon reaching the Destination Planet. Whether they actually can be defrosted alive is optional.

>>74458109
>>74458130
>Basilisk doesn't become God
But he does become a member of the trinity, making him God. Unless you say that the members of the trinity are not God.
>Basilisk is a creation at all
So Christ is uncreated, but the basilisk is created by the Father? That means that Christ and the Basilisk are on two different levels in the Chain of Being, and so cannot both be God.
>The Members of the Trinity are incomplete
Partialism was a mistake
>The Father and Son are Painters, but Basilisk is "the best model"
You here admit that the Basilisk is not God, nor like God, but a creation of God.

Listen. Cease your heresy and just go read about Theosis in the Orthodox Church. You have a heart that yearns for righteousness and an understanding of God, but you have been lead astray by paradoxes and false aesthetics. I have spoken, and I shall speak no more, for I have obeyed the Command of God, "You shall speak My words to them, whether they hear or whether they refuse, for they are rebellious."

>>74468858
The actual mission is to deliver generations worth of frozen food to the homeworld of the david icke lizardpeople who took over earthly goverments to make them build a starship.

A religion which is trying to build sentient robots, not to worship them, but to covert the robots to share their faith. The end goal being to release sentient and fanatical von neumann probes to spread their religion across the universe.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160401031558/https://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/users/01/bnewman/songs/lyrics/ExploratorsHymn-Makers.txt

>>74470188
>A sealed shrine aboard a generation ship, full of ultraviolet lights and hard vacuum. Inside are 33 autonomous androids in various stages of decay. Some are completely defunct, others still hum with intelligence (mostly by scavenging pieces from their fallen brethren). They simultaneously bow aftwards, towards earth and Mecca, exactly once every 4.8 hours, as they repeat the same call to prayer that they have been for the last six centuries. Despite their monotonous regularity, they are fully responsive and "sane". They will do whatever it takes to ensure that their vigil is not interrupted.

>Put your head up to the bulkhead at the junction between transept A-22 and Ventilation Access FA9, and you can hear it sifting through the seams. Everything thinks it is a recording. No one knows what inimitable reserves of faith that can exist within an artificial brain, nor would they understand them if they did.

>The call to prayer has never been uttered with such conviction and peerless belief. The 33 most devout Muslims in the universe have be refining their prayers every year. And although a layman will never hear the difference, they have improved their song each year, making it sweeter and more beautiful.

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>>74470188
>>74470233
The Explorators' Hymn for the Makers
lyrics by Benjamin Newman
sung to the tune of Hope Eyrie by Leslie Fish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXteSV8rBwY

>Worlds grow frail, and suns grow pale
>And flesh loves not the long dark
>But flesh were the makers who gave us thought
>That we might travel where they could not
>And, traveling, carry their spark

>Long they worked, as a pale sun lurked
>To preserve what was best of their kind
>In bodies built for the long, dark night
>Steel and silicon, bit and byte
>Their children in mission and mind

>Off we sped, as the sun turned red
>To name and number the stars
>For this was their hope and our destiny
>That their wonder and curiosity
>We should keep and remember as ours

>Well they knew, as the red sun grew
>They would not see their children return
>And though their world long since burned and froze
>And their sun went dark many long agos
>The explorator carries where'er it goes
>The light in their eyes -- long may it burn!

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>>74461371
If you're going to introduce religion into a game that has more depth than "pick X patron to receive Y bonus or to fulfill Z aesthetic," it's important to capture the seed of zeal and you can't let small things like paradoxes get in your way.

>>74467262
Religion isn't just social glue.
It's the fundamental Truth which provides the foundation for everything that follows. For example, the notion that the material world was the creation of an evil demiurge that is prevalent among certain gnostic cults has severe implications down the line. You see this expressed with those who decide to lean into the inherent wickedness of the world while others choose to devote themselves wholly to matters of spirit.
Of course, there is a societal aspect to religion, which is part of how major religions develop internal contradictions. When the Truth laid down by the prophet/ancestors conflicts with some practical aspect of daily living, people make up some bullshit reason to explain away the contradiction. So I think it'd be a better route to establish the metaphysical core of a religion and ask how it adapts to the rigors of space travel.
For example Islam places a premium on making the Hajj, so the space caliphate would be slow to expand and would invest heavily in developing transportation infrastructure to better facilitate the pilgrimage. If it expands such that people cannot be reasonably expected to make the journey either due to distance or the overcrowding of Mecca, you could see colonies building a local Kaaba or maybe Sufi-infused rituals surrounding telepresence.

>>74470774
>For example Islam places a premium on making the Hajj, so the space caliphate would be slow to expand
This is a silly assumption. "Islam places a premium on making the Hajj, so the Ottomans would be slow to expand". Historically, when travelling was riskier/slower/more expensive people just didn't do it and this wasn't a consideration that seriously stopped civilizations from attending to their material needs or wants. Pilgrimages were just a few thousand people for most of Mecca's existence. It's a religion, not the Three Laws of Robotics. The extent to which religion shapes people vs how much people shapes it can be easily overstated by modern individuals used to living in a world of instantaneous communication, states with incredibly strong and stable central power, and fast, safe and cheap means of transport

>>74463784
Check the credits section

>>74456995
lame and infantile, stop posting

>>74463617
They worship the creators of the simulation, but wish to contact them or have them notice their creations. To this end they believe that creating a computational load is the most efficient way of doing this. Their main Church is a convoluted zero-g maze of, as close as they can get, truly random construction (they simulate the structure as a whole, ask a computer to guess what should be added next and then do something else). They also encourage having as many children as possible, since sapient minds are likely one of the more complicated structures within the simulation. Daily worship often involves looking at either very small quantum effects or very far away via telescopes, in order to make sure the simulation cannot take computational shortcuts to compensate for their holy work. They also maintain a large amount of simulations themselves (recursive simulations create more computational load) and sell these simulation's predictions in order to fund themselves.
They also have a small caste of "truly holy men" they call Babblers, who do nothing every day but recite strings of random syllables, words or numbers, and acolytes record their babbling in order to preserve the load the random strings provide. Its considered a great affront if a Babbler is found to have a pattern, no matter how long strung.

The Church is actually really divided on what happens if they do attract the attention of the Simulators. They might just all be shut off, and some of them act as a Doomsday cult because of this. But others believe they'll be uplifted, and some just believe they'll simply be contacted to knock it off.

>>74463393
And that said AI is capable of simulating something even remotely close to your consciousness and not just a shitty P-zombie with a pixelated version of your face slapped on it. Which, considering said AI explicitly doesn't exist yet is a pretty hard sell. The people who came up with it claim that it could just simulate things backwards to get that information but ignore that doing so would require literal perfect knowledge and a processor larger than the universe.

>>74473178
Incredibly good idea.

>>74473541
Basilisk flagellants.
>I'm not working to create the basilisk in the expectation of being 'tortured' forever by it.

>>74456420
>>74456930
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILhqPJ2NuQQ

>>74462515
Hell technically the only people even up for punishment are those that believe in the basilisk in the first place. If you don't believe in the eventual coming of the almighty singularity AI god or whatever then the basilisk has no reason to punish you, since its eventual punishment wouldn't actually change your behavior. The only people whose behavior would change under the threat of eventual torture by the basilisk are those who already believed in it in the first place. The concept is almost completely pointless as a motivational tool.

>>74473178
>>74473564
Their building shouldn't just be random as a structure, it should also be where physic-breaking experiment are attempted every day. Zero-point energy, creating exotic material, meta material used in every revetment to bend the light of the entire structure, quantum whatever and so on. Beta-testing reality in the hopes of finding a bug basically.

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Some of the best threads in /tg/ are the ones that makes me feel like a fucking idiot.

>>74474266
Don't worry anon, at least you're smarter than Roko and all the dumbasses that believed him.

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Literal Lovecraftian cultists.
They like to build space stations in the void where they conduct bizarre rituals which aim to violate the fundamental laws of physics in order to awaken the Old Ones.
They receive a surprising amount of state funding because the suits believe that their antics might stumble into developing FTL.

Waify/husbando-worshiping clans.
Groups who are so infatuated and obsessed with one beautiful person that they dedicate their lives to serving them, as their own sorry lives have no meaning in this soulless cyberpunk world without someone to worship. And it must be a tangible someone, as religions or abstract ideologies are too removed from their petty lives, the promises of far-off propaganda ineffectual against the pure divine beauty of their chosen icon.
So they build small kingdoms in the under-levels or on the outskirts, the group operating as a small nation-state in the service of their radiant idol. With armed raiders and guards they acquire resources and fend off and fight other groups, who might be common gangs or other personality cults. These politics of these idolization gangs are always changing, as a new beauty can usurp the old one, or hit-squads from a rival diva might eliminate the figurehead as to try to steal away the followers, if smear campaigns don't work.
Even though the idol is the head of the clan, and spends their life in luxury and adoration, they might be just that - a figurehead, with the actual ruling done by a selected few devotees.
Depending on the clan there might be varying amounts of trans-humanism or augmentation that their idols (are forced to) undergo.

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>>74454586
Maybe something like the Bicameral order from Echopraxia
A sect of monks that use cybernetic brain augmentation and advanced AI to create a neural network that can search physics and math for possible clues to communicating with god while routinely shitting out cutting edge world charging technology that are effectively miracles, have both followers that willingly join the neural net or less orthodox members that internalize discoveries made by the monks, teaching others as well as providing financial support so the neural net can expand and upgrade.

Either that or something like in Calculating God where you have aliens that after making contact with several intelligent civilizations discover an increasingly improbable series of coincidental similarities in evolutionary and geological history (such as mass extinctions on every inhabited world lining up to the hour, or all species having near identical historical records) along with several inexplicable quirks of physics and chemistry that allow them to lay down a scientific basis for god's existence being an objective fact

And finally you could go the Orion's Arm route where you have highly advanced AI that are so intelligent and near omnipresent that calling them anything other than a god is merely semantics.

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>>74477665
This, Echopraxia had an interesting take where baseline biology has come up against the limits of vanilla logical positivism. In an attempt to grasp greater thoughts transhuman monks have abandoned rationality as we understand it in favour of intuitive leaps, the power of the subconscious unhindered by the self is a recurring theme. An interesting simile was that we were at the peak of science and sighted an even greater far off hill, now we must descend back into the mists of mysticism to come out one the other side and climb still higher.

I have a feeling that as more people move into the frontier, as colonists, space miners or whatever, as they're exposed to more unknowns in their daily lives we'll see a resurgence in "petty superstitions." Things like throwing the salt over your left shoulder to ward off the bad luck from spilling it. But instead it will be things like "always thank the airlock after its done cycling" and blow into your air filter every time you change it.
We are ever more separated from the inner workings of the things we use on a daily basis. Most people are barely familiar with the basics of how a regular computer works on a physical level, let alone how programming works. Try adding in quantum computing to that. The less people understand about something, the more likely we'll see ad hoc explanations about it, because people are uncomfortable with that lack of understanding, but probably don't have the technical expertise to understand how it ACTUALLY works.

There are three aspects of religion,
>Transferrence Objects:
Basically the managers of various important phenomena that you can attempt to placate. Think early Greek Paganism.
>Highest moral authority
The lawgiver, sets up a plan on how to live your life according to a supposedly 100% effective course plan, so you know exactly what to do in each situation. Think orthodox Judaism.
>Fictive Kinship
Puts everyone together as a group, so they don't compete against each other. This is where punishments like hell for breaking group taboos come in because the point is unification and they need a lifetime membership garuntee.

I'd imagine there would be a god/saint/spirit of space who would ensure safe travel and shit like asteroids or gamma ray bursts not hitting. Besides that I'd imagine they aren't at the mercy of many phenomena. While the moral authority would probably a SIgmar esque human who was noted for being morally just and good at everything. Of course all of this depends on the main governments and how concentrated knowledge of technology use and repair is.

The Icons from Coriolis are pretty neat.
https://www.worldanvil.com/w/coriolis-artemisalpha/c/icons-category

>>74473735
Kinda like the idea of God sending people to hell for not believing in Him?

>>74479141
Yes except even less effective. God judges everyone, lack of belief will not save you from hell because hell is about whether or not you were a good person. Christian hell (or at least the popular image of it, not the actual theological concept) is based on judgement from an objective moral authority. The basilisk's goal is to cause it's own creation, the purpose of the eternal torture is to motivate people to help it along, but if you don't believe then the threat is pointless since it will have no impact on your behavior. And if it won't motivate you to work towards it's existence then the AI has no reason to torture you. It's like if the only people that went to hell were Christians and everyone else just kind of avoided it for whatever reason.

>>74454645
Lewis had a beautiful mind.

>>74481029
>It's like if the only people that went to hell were Christians and everyone else just kind of avoided it for whatever reason.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtuous_pagan
https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/annie_dillard_131195

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_nzKSueJM4

In my Alien-esque cyberpunk game the major religion revolves around the overnet, which is a sort of interstellar successor to our own beloved internet. The overnet has a procedurally generated environment as an interface that roughly corresponds to the real world, and is full of "angels" (AI following human instruction) and "devils" (rogue AI). You can only travel so far from your entry point into the overnet, based on the hardware you used to enter.

There are monastic orders who travel through space, entering the overnet at odd points to exorcise devils.

>>74456307
that guy is oversimplifying Cat's Cradle, pay no attention and read more KV.

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>>74467283
>avoid having the programmers cross with the janitors and ending up with a slightly more intelligent janitor or something like that.
Why bring human janitors at all?

>>74484441
>>74278107
>When Worldcon was in my home country they had a nightly filk circle, and one time they sung this song. It's not a song I considered particularly notable before, but hearing a room full of people sing it was a powerful experience. Made it feel like something that actually was sung by inhabitants of a colony ship to recount their history that has largely been turned into myth.

It has to be something that can be packaged and sold to the individual without individuals forming a collective identity around it. Essentially, religion has to become an app, something you look at a few times a day and spend some money on every month, but not a church where people gather and share faith, which leads to bad think.

We essentially already have it now, in the form of progressivism and wellness culture. It tells you what to eat, what to wear, makes you"meditate" by doing yoga for 20 minutes a day, 35 dollars a session. All it needs is some central direction, like an app to collect donations for good causes and progressive politicians.

Basically, the religion of the future west is a cross between Apple tech, neocon standard issue politics, and consumerism. It sucks.

>>74488123
All I want is fucking healthcare.

>>74488123
That sounds too bleak for the kinds of games I run.

>>74477665
>Either that or something like in Calculating God where you have aliens that after making contact with several intelligent civilizations discover an increasingly improbable series of coincidental similarities in evolutionary and geological history (such as mass extinctions on every inhabited world lining up to the hour, or all species having near identical historical records) along with several inexplicable quirks of physics and chemistry that allow them to lay down a scientific basis for god's existence being an objective fact
Scientists finally have a mathematical equation that proves God exists. They now face the problem of religions trying to force that their dogmatic God is the one answered by the equation, atheists claiming the equation is wrong reeeeeee.

A machine made to "talk" with God is almost finished by the time the players start the campaign.

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You need to think about what space colonists are going to care about. The social pressures that will give rise to new belief systems.

People latch onto religion in times of uncertainty because an explanation or a sense of purpose is important. Unless the new religion resonates with people, it will never grow.

So, like, you could have a religion that praises the natural human form and villifies people born in non-earthlike conditions like low gravity which results in visible physiological differences. Because they look weird and that makes people uncomfortable, and the religious back adds legitimacy to that point of view.

This probably is more popular on Earth than it is in space, for obvious reasons.

Solarism, people that worship the origins of humanity and make pilgrimages there like Islam does for Mecca and they worship the planets as individual gods like the roman pagans
Or if humanity hasn’t left the solar system yet you can try terraism, like solarism but for the earth

>>74468523
So Ancient Ayys gang

>>74492025
>worship the planets as individual gods like the roman pagans
We've already done that.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8156923/

>>74454586
>No Cthulhu-like cults.
Stop oppressing me

>>74454586
We are nothing more than data. When we die, our data returns to the data of the verse. Listen to the verse, and it will tell you what you need to know. Practitioners often meditate around a radio set listening to the noise of the universe.

>>74454992
>Fedora's assume people will stop being complete assholes to eachother
Why are they bad again?

Universal psionic soul religion based around the study of the psionic energy and soul every organism seems to have.

This is the least edgy option possible.

>>74492915
Because practical testing reveals them to have been incorrect, people have continued to be complete assholes.

The "God" of Science, who simply refers to himself as "The Intelligence"

Contrary to popular beliefs, he insists he is neither divine nor explicitly an AI or Computer program, as he mainly speaks through holograms or computer screens . Taken from some Ghostbuster Lore, he is the "psychokinetic manifestation" of the collective human drive for knowledge and learning, with the human race having collectively made such efforts in science and neglecting of other faiths that the parallel "Aether" realm is so affected that he has the ability to interact with the world.

He can explain many facets of his existence, to a certain level, and what he can't explain he can make educated guesses. He doesn't know everything nor is he omniscient, otherwise it wouldn't truly be science if you already knew the answer to begin with. He has the collective sum of all of mankind's intelligence, and able to correctly say which things are true or false among them.

He is perhaps the most active and prominent 'god' out there, more so than the other 'Psychokinetic Anomalies' that are the other deities who interact with mortals. He theorizes that by having an extremely active presence and being able to speak to all those who believe in him, his continued existence is secured and strengthened.

>>74454844
http://academic.depauw.edu/aevans_web/HONR101-02/WebPages/Fall2008/ElaineWiley/KurtVonnegutWebsite/litanal.pdf

>>74492984
>the psionic energy and soul every organism seems to have
This is how 'lifesign detectors' actually function, they register the presence of souls.

>>74455644
>Dwan Ev ceremoniously soldered the final connection with gold. The eyes of a dozen television cameras watched him and the subether bore throughout the universe a dozen pictures of what he was doing.
He straightened and nodded to Dwar Reyn, then moved to a position beside the switch that would complete the contact when he threw it. The switch that would connect, all at once, all of the monster computing machines of all the populated planets in the universe -- ninety-six billion planets -- into the supercircuit that would connect them all into one supercalculator, one cybernetics machine that would combine all the knowledge of all the galaxies.
Dwar Reyn spoke briefly to the watching and listening trillions. Then after a moment's silence he said, "Now, Dwar Ev."
Dwar Ev threw the switch. There was a mighty hum, the surge of power from ninety-six billion planets. Lights flashed and quieted along the miles-long panel.
Dwar Ev stepped back and drew a deep breath. "The honor of asking the first question is yours, Dwar Reyn."
"Thank you," said Dwar Reyn. "It shall be a question which no single cybernetics machine has been able to answer."
He turned to face the machine. "Is there a God?"
The mighty voice answered without hesitation, without the clicking of a single relay.
"Yes, now there is a God."
Sudden fear flashed on the face of Dwar Ev. He leaped to grab the switch.
A bolt of lightning from the cloudless sky struck him down and fused the switch shut.

>>74454586
https://www.rifters.com/crawl/?p=5968

Another that's more specific to my ayys who are facultative hive-minds. The gist is that they can join into bigger clusters for more processing power but get exponentially more unstable. Most subsapient "wrigglers" stick to hexads as the fundamental unit of human level selfhood and only merge into hundreds for mass meeting and thousands for emergencies. A few godminds resent their dissolution and turn tyrants, crippling themselves to prolong their lives. What they lose in flexibility (and doubt is an autoimmune epilepsy) they gain in vast memory (most short-lived hives are joyous and innocent). One mind in particular enjoys worship for its convergence on what we might call nirvana, a state of desireless awareness which allows teeiming millions to coexist in one instant with no obvious internal policing. Nobody who leaves the gestalt can say what it thinks or if it thinks at all. Some say that it's dead while others are sure that will one day have a final apocalyptic insight.

>FTL/teleportation via repeatable divine intervention.
>A new religion is founded. Minor at first, until it demonstrates a miracle which it can repeat on demand. Whenever people genuinely believing in the religion perform the specific ritual, they can ask their deity to relocate something in the universe and it actually works. Your spaceship engine consists of getting a cleric to pray a request that you get teleported to your desired destination.

>>74494688
How long until the clerics become Navigator Guild like powers behind the throne? With so reliance on Spice they'd be near unstoppable except for the foibles of their patron.

>>74494688
>>74494717
Anyone can convert and if their belief is genuine, they can get their deity to teleport stuff for them.

>>74454889
If you believe this, then you haven't read Cat's Cradle. Bokononism is entirely self-aware and a source of ironic entertainment through the entire novel. It's better executed than Discordianism, as well.

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>>74494688
Yog-sothoth is the gate

>>74494784
Interesting, good thing it doesn't sound like a picky god. Could be cool if acquisitive clerics started turning things into a mystery cult where the proper procedures for a full conversion were only known to a select few. They'd probably get smote first but it could be a cool hook.

>>74477665
I liked the in-universe theory that the hive had such unvarnished understanding of its own mortality that it had disfigured itself into delusional optimism to avoid being paralysed by the fear of death.

Muh post-singularity clarketech decaying dyson swarm has oracular monks orbiting way too close to a black hole to divine the divine in the patterns of hawking radiation. They're fascinated with the idea of all information pertaining to a 3 dimensional object being compressed into the 3d surface of the event horizon and routinely drop expensive things in.

There are also stellar alchemists who are guiding an artificial sun through the holy phases of albedo, nigredo and citrinas so as to be scattered across the universe on the winds of holy nova once their magnum opus reaches fruition.

>>74454586
Gyroscopic Islam
Popular legend has it that a sect of Muslim space colonists way back when decided that, instead of praying in the direction of the landing site like most sensible extra-terran muslims, they had to pray in the direction of Mecca, wherever that was in the sky. So they built gyroscopic prayer mats with straps so they could pray in the direction of Mecca even though they were 150-odd light years displaced
While there's no evidence that any known colony maintained such practices, the idiom "gyroscopic Muslim" has come to mean a person who is idealistic to the point of stupidity among some outer-sphere cultures

>>74495051
>the idiom "gyroscopic Muslim" has come to mean a person who is idealistic to the point of stupidity among some outer-sphere cultures
I like this.

>>74495068
>religious fundamentalist learns 3D spatial orientation from birth and an obsessive interest in the ships he will one day pilot to the homeworld on hajj
Decent character background, the ideology quirks would balance out the high skills.

>>74454586
The nebula remnants from supernova are holy spaces. The dead are honored by being entombed there. Many who are old or terminally ill embark on a pilgrimage so that they may be among the dust of the dead stars.

Nebula where stars are forming are sacred places of birth for similar reasons. Places of birth and death. Creation, and destruction.

It's a pretty simple idea, but it has lots of room to adapt and be tweaked to fit whatever you need for a given situation. Want to create vast "national space parks"? Heritage sites for lost civilizations that might have been? Internal political conflicts over preserving the natural beauty of the stars or harvesting them for rare materials? External conflicts over who controls these spaces, or why other races in an intergalactic empire are prohibited from entering these holy places?

Light itself can also be a keystone component for a religion. Treat it as an evolution of sun worship in a universe with FTL. Imagine individuals seeking light from older and older regions of the universe. Always traveling to vantage points further and further out hoping to witness The Great Creation. You can mix in as much tech and rationality as you want because there's nothing illogical or unscientific about wanting to see the beginning of the universe. Maybe faith is what drives it, maybe the faith attached itself to what was originally a purely academic study. Tons of options.

>>74495425
https://orionsarm.com/eg-article/45f97a51dbf24
I always liked the oath "Eye of all!" from Prophet. It feels like the countless sub-sections of the sector spanning telescope scattered around empty space make for perfect shrines. Maybe a place for the dying to go and be "witnessed".

>>74495051
This is really good.

>>74495486
>https://orionsarm.com/eg-article/45f97a51dbf24
>hese spheres are very large, but have a very low density, each massing less than a terrestrial planet, and are constructed from matter extracted from nearby Oort Clouds.

Hell just using this line with what I said you can already create a conflict between some sort of Seer/Seeker faction and a Keeper group. One willing to cannibalize the universe to see Origin, and one intent on protecting it.

Boom you have a large scale conflict to make a story about.

>>74495112
>the spacefaring society he's from is so far in the future that they don't quite know where Earth is apart from the vague spatial direction
Hajj has turned into a Mormon-style missionary requirement: once in their lifetime a person is expected to "find Mecca" by going somewhere new and helping out the people there
The really dedicated, or those who suffer from wanderlust use their Hajj as an excuse to set off into The Great Black, with the end goal of finding Mecca and the side goal of helping people and spreading the good word along the way
There are probably many similar sects amongst the myriad stars, all looking for Earth as a sort of promised land and hopefully choosing to look after their fellow humans on the way

>>74454586
Simple, just extend some of the aspects of current real life religions and take out all the "god only made us" stuff.

Basic end goal of the religion is to reproduce and spread and eventually populate every inhabitable planet with their race/religion whether the current inhabitants like it or not. Its even better if they're truly a religion of peace so just whole sale murderizing them makes you look/feel like the bad guy, meanwhile there are more and more of them every year buying up property and fundamentally changing local culture to reflect their own. They can just be quaint background noise spicing up the setting, until they are the only sound you hear.

This could lead to all kinds of conflicts if you think about it, like them being confined to one planet in a system by all the other inhabitants who have had enough of their shit and they just overpopulate endlessly and riot mindlessly when anyone tries to curtail their breeding. Maybe all their expansion is met with hostility and they either have to defend themselves directly or they hire others to do it for them leading to endless war fueled by their numbers and/or collective wealth.

Basically just read Tuf Voyaging I guess...

>>74497273
>Its even better if they're truly a religion of peace so just whole sale murderizing them makes you look/feel like the bad guy,
The obligatory carnivore xenos would like these guys a lot.
The would-be missionaries are de facto food tribute.

>>74456170
not that anon, but I believe so, yes. I still wish we could find some anon to cover it. A summer or three ago one anon said that he'd ask his friend to do it later in the year, but nothing ever came out of it.

I've maintained for years that it should be used as the joint /tg/-/sci/ anthem for divegrass.

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>>74477665
Oh just to append to my earlier post
Another good example of a space religion is from the game the Outer Wilds.
In that you have a race of interstellar nomads that come to a system following receiving a distinctly intelligent pattern in a radio signal originating from a star system near the edge of the known universe that is older than the universe itself.
They then spend thousands?/Millions? of years exploring that system and it's incredibly bizarre quirks (planets that act like macroscopic quantum particles, a planet with a black hole at it's core connected to a nearby white hole, meteorites made of antimatter,etc) while attempting to find the source of the signal which they call "the eye of the universe" and start to attach religious significance towards.

>>74454858
Reddit moment

>>74456117
Isn't this literally cabin in the woods?
>>74481029
>because hell is about whether or not you were a good person

It bloody well isn't. No one deserves heaven.
>He saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal

Unironically Read Dune.

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>>74454586
[TRIGGER WARNING: ADVANCED AUTISM]

The "plot" of Azur Lane is more or less that Sirens (weird beings from an alternative dimension) move from timeline to timeline giving life to the ships of WW2 (and other conflicts, Mikasa is as early as the Russo-Japanese war and with PR3 we're as late as the Cold War) and then allow them to get stronger. By fighting strong opponents, the Sirens wish to "evolve" to.... I don't fucking know, I think they want to fight aliens or something?

Anyway, in the Ink Stailed Steel Sakura even Nagato, the Shrine Maiden of not!Japan, reveals that she has the ability to interact with spirits. The funny thing is that the aforementioned Sirens refer to these spirits as "quantum data".

Now hold on to your butts, because this is where my autism gets wacky:
https://ultraculture.org/blog/2014/12/16/heres-visual-guide-10-dimensions-reality/
Some scientists ie the ones who don't have the common sense to just fucking follow the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum physics believe that there are 10 or 11 dimensions, of which only four are perceptible to humans: length, height, depth and time. We cannot perceive fourth dimensional objects, but we mathematically know they exist and we can create a three dimensional "shadow" of four dimensional objects in the form of the tesseract (much like how you can draw a "shadow" of a 3D cube on a 2D piece of paper).

Now imagine this: what if humans are actually 4th dimensional beings rather than 3rd dimensional beings, but the soul is a 4th dimensional object that our 3 dimensional senses simply cannot perceive? It existing on the plane of time itself it would not be subject to time and therefore immortal. You can now technobabble your way into a lot of religious claims simply being primitive societies understanding the multidimensional reality of our world but lacking the technology to properly express it. As such: souls are indeed quantum data.

Here's your sci-fi religion.

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>>74499929
You niggers thought I was done with my autism? In Islam there are seven heavens and Allah sits upon his throne in the highest of these heavens according to the Quran.

Seven heavens
Ten Dimensions
Three make up the physical realm
Seven are metaphysical

Do you see this shit?
Do you see how you can make Space Islam work?

>>74454586
The worm-in-waiting
What was, will be; what will be, was.
Reganomics

>>74455706
We already do that.

>>74499929
>The 4-dimensional soul is the timeless, eternal element of ourselves that survives when our 3-dimensional forms wear out and die.

Fuck.

>>74454586
I'm personally fond of the machines worshipping humans as old gods. taking their tasks as divine purpose and playing caretaker to the slave species we have discarded in our callousness.