They're on discord. Idk why they stopped posting

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>>67020685
This is all I got, idk where everything else is though, sorry bruv

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>>67020685
Here's the pdf of the current main doc. There are currently two other finished core books, one for Weapons and Equipment and the other for Social Checks and Morale. There is also a currently WIP document for an insect bestiary.

In addition, there are currently five splatbooks, either giving options for radiance infection, vessels and grimmkin, and three setting-based splats such as water-based bayou adventures, windsweapt wealds, and deserts.

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>>67020685

Can we get an image thread going, keep this alive?

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>>67022920
Got to go lay down but I'll bump

>ofcourse I do

>>67021431
You answered your own question.

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>>67020685
there better be a minion-master class!

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>>67024670
My nigga

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>>67025063

>>67024670
No grimmchild?

>>67020685
For some reason discord won't let me copy the server link, but it is still very much alive.
I think one of the main dudes making this thing said he would start working on the new pdf a month or so ago, but I haven't heard anything from it after that.

>>67027398
>but I haven't heard anything from it after that
I mean the pdf, new content/balancing is being discussed almost every day.

>>67020685
You might want to go to the discord,using links from archives.
Hope it helps.
They usually updates only when they have enough content to upload

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>>67025545

>>67021826
can someone get the discord anons to post the rest of the current PDFs if you cannot join it anymore ?

>>67028605
I'm in the discord, but the progress is going slow lately and I haven't checked on it for a while. If I recall correctly, the most up-to-date ruleset is spread around multiple google docs and is constantly being worked on.

Discord: https://discord.gg/5td42pE

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>/tg/ Hollow Knight thread
It's good to know that it's still being discussed
Concurrently it is still alive as some anons have stated, we've been a little slow-going with the PDF but new stuff has been added in relation to the Silksong info we've gotten in the past week
Specifically, the Belt mechanic was added as a way to store tools much again like Silksong, be it a poison, a grapple hook, a tiny little weaver and so on.
We have more plans to try and work in things from Silksong once the full game is released (as hopefully it'll spark more interest on /tg/ once it comes out) but so far, yeah, we've just been working quietly on balancing and a few new features. Hell I've worked on a few new consumables (not many) and our GM dev has helped with various poisons. Definetly planning on statting those Steel Golems seen in Steel Soul Hollow Knight and in the Silksong Trailer.
I might post a monthly thread here eventually but I rather not make it into a general if you get what I mean
Otherwise, don't feel shy about joining the discord, we're still very much alive.

>>67028605
Here, since this is a HKRPG thread

General Doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZoqEbqV11DnNcVAcbROizZu_Xzus_Eq36TO8IBdqJjM/view

Weapons and Equipment
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DVNUKvMXAZh8ru-ahIrcpJ64EUzJQCmz9RNhKTIqCBs/view

Social Checks and Morale
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16igvnheoQbEGsXmOBNvwWposvW5GACRnuqL9bPIFmXs/edit?usp=sharing

WIP Insectuary
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HSs7Aq5kjjuGZhHPk2H7gmCa2oe4zJKlK3VzJmI6VEY/edit?usp=sharing

Splats

Vessels and Void (Splat for vessels, grimmkin, and other spooky entities of Hallownest and Oakshade)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ozyDCaKodcmAb-ef7hXRwbsS6Zxz_SRlZDHgHSctUC0/view

Lamps and Lightbringers (Splat for Radiance Infection rules)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-KOGJZQo8T52rM4j5N4fTRg1UmyBDYjQaTbMKueV9Ss/view

Of Deserts and Dust (splat for desert-themed adventures outside of The God-Tree of Oakshade)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CPuiHkruDqP5ptKxmj3cdD6daaw3gL80K-eImGhN3A4/view

Of Swamp and Sea (splat for adventures out at "sea"/adventures taking place within the Bayou)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eAqtl_2NqZ99jEl_9kFGhIQPNz4zQNBrPSF75aHUZew/view

Of Wind and Weald (splat for adventures taking place within The Windswept Wealds)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kVH4wB_Tehr0ZgAxgfHo6rAruIOSTM9lIbZIQHgstLE/view

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>>67028918
Neat

>>67028918
nice!

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> Hollow knight is a grim and bleak world
> WAHOOOOOOOOOO HAHAHA!

>>67020685
Scuse me lads. Unrelated but how do I roll dice? The sticky says I have to type the command in the email field but I don't have one. Only name, options and comment.

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>>67028512
never liked the /tg/ made setting, always felt a bit off from the established HK feel and not fantastic enough so to say, but the effort and work these guys put into making the system and the kingdom coming to life is praise-worthy, I love it!

>>67029147
>options
That's the one.

Rolled 4, 3 = 7 (2d6)

This is kind of a surprise.
The system got to a pretty finished state that people seem to enjoy playing at pretty much exactly around when a few of the guys working on it hit some trouble and couldn't work on it as much.
Conversation kinda died down a lot right then. There's a group that plays in the server, and my table and at least 1 other I know of that play it irl. System's solid, it just needs one last go-over to organize and polish it into something worthy of publishing.
I actually really like some of the mechanics and have been thinking of stealing the core of it to make a general fantasy rpg.
>>67024670
There's a beast tamer path, which controls one big minion, or the path of dust, which is necromancerish and commands husks.

>>67029578
Thanks guy.

>>67029413
What bug province would you make?

>>67029838
Not that guy but I like the setting. Different enough to be its own thing and people can always play in Hallownest if they prefer (or the new one that's coming out).

>>67029413
for an instant I thought you said that you never liked any /tg/ made setting and I was ready to stone you like a philistine

>>67029087
I mean, it does have some silly stuff mixed in, but the overall tone is still rather melancholic.

>>67030804
I was just giving credits to the one guy who's actually having fun.
Well there is also Salubra.
Maybe the lesson is to have a hobby.

>>67031543
I lol'd.

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>>67030923
>Maybe the lesson is to have a hobby

>the Knight opened the door using the old crooked key
>He recoiled slightly in surprise at the sounds coming from down the corridor
>Judging from the sounds, a couple of bugs seemed to be in a heated argument
>Although, as the Knight listened, he noticed that no sound of battle could be heard
>He decided to advance, determined to uncover the secrets of this house
>And as the Knight risked his head into a door frame, he was stopped in his tracks
>The room was in an incredible state of disrepair, even for Hallownest; Piles and piles of rotting food littered the room, which explained the lack of predators in the area
>pieces of paper had been stapled all over the walls; the Knight couldn't see far enough, but they seemed to be covered in text
>Finally, three bugs occupied the center of the room. One long , one fat and one small were busy arguing right next to a couple of crudily painted rocks and a bunch of paper sheets
"This is bullshit and you know it! The Devourer was never meant to be this powerful, or even an archetype in it's own right !"
"Yeah, right. You're only saying that because your mind is corrupted and it's preventing you from seeing the genius of my build"
"Sure, a build that you MADE THE DAMN TRAIT FOR"
"Guys, guys, this isn't the Pale King's court you know ? You don't have to argue over pointless subjects all day long. Anyway, you two enter the hall, and recognise that you have found the Palace of pleasure..."
"Oh god"
"THIS is your grand finale ? I can't believe I stayed playing with HIM only to enter a Magical Nest !"
>Careful not to make any noise, the Knight quickly backed away from the room before locking the door and staring at the key
>Maybe the smith would like some more metal ? Or it could be given to Zote ?

>>67031570
sorry, I had to fix it, I noticed five more typos as soon as I posted it
third time's the charm !

She's still singing deep inside.

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Also daily reminder that the Pale King did nothing wrong, and anyone that says otherwise is either a filthy Mothfag, a filthy Spiderfag, or a filthy Dustfag

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>>67032527

I think the charm/combination sections could use some expanding. anyone have some good ideas?

>>67032527
I don't know, the Abyss seem full of things he did wrong even if he ultimately got it.

>>67029628
For what purpose?

Anyone got the waifu charts? Also which type of bug would make the best bugfu?

>>67032140
Deep

>>67032375
>tfw have a need to collect useless trinkets in games
>tfw never heard the scholars lore tidbits because never sold him my precious junk

Guess it's time to boot the game back up

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>>67034687
Can't go wrong with MidWaifu

>>67032375
Do you think the pale king enjoyed nuttin inside her mother?

>>67036179
Wouldn't you?

I mean man, have you seen Herra? She's a beast!

>>67039325
CARLOS I SWEAR TO THE RADIANCE

>>67025545
Why does this make me imagine cooking pizza?

kind of unrelated but has anyone here beaten pantheon of hollownest? What were your charms?

>>67034687
>which type of bug would make the best bugfu?
Top 4 in no particular order
Spider
Mantis
Moth
???

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>>67037350
>fighting the mantis lords with a broken nail

>>67041060
that's far from unlikely, I'm sure plenty of players just got good instead of seeking the smith

>>67040260
Care to give your reasoning?

And for why Snail isn't on the list?

>>67041060
>tfw didn't get the final upgrade until shortly before Radiance

Anyone has an invite for this Discord server?

>>67042140
>>67028689

>>67042102
> tfw doing collecting everything (beside godseeker content) before entering the egg, making the poor hollow knight completely trivial
I just wanted to see everything damn it.

>>67040260
>Spider
>...this nest rejects us...

>>67029087
His laughing always felt creepy to me. This is a void being that spends most of his life locking creatures up in tiny jars and hiding those jars to "keep them safe". And he has fun with it, he has fun with trying to kill you as well. That is some freaky shit.

>>67026435
That seems more like a warlock with a demon pet.

Been playing the vidya, finally. Absolutely loving it. Looking forward to beating it and playing some Hollow Knight TTRPG

Just one question.
What is bug pussy like?

>>67046702
They have spermatheca so....like a glove-mouth? Basically squeezing.sperm out and storing it in different sacs for future use.

Possibly multiple sessions if she favors a particular male and wants a larger store of his sperm

>>67046837
>tfw your bug waifu constantly wants to stay topped off on your cum as her abdomen swells with white

God damn.

>>67046945
Insects are frequently polyandrous though.

>>67047136
Are the Hollow Knight bugs polyandrous?

>>67047136
They also prefer one male over another, hence why they have multiple storage sacs. They may prefer one male over another a use their sperm more.

>>67047304
The king certainly is

>>67047324
That's politics though.
I'm not sure what the White Lady is by the way.

>>67046945
Might explain why Iselda has such a huge rear that pokes out behind the desk. Just milking her hubby dry and keeping it all stored away when the time is right to settle down and have kids.

>>67047480
Clearly a tree

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>>67040250
I managed to do it. You maybe want to see the boss list and where the benches are and change your loadout according to what you feel works better for bosses you have a hard time with. But this is what i found that works best in any situation:

Fragile strength, fragile heart, mark of pride, grubsong and shape of unn.

>>67025545
Sauce on that badass pic?

>>67051130
One of /tg/'s very own drawthreads, I believe.

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>>67025545
I’m sorry, I couldn’t resist.

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>>67051525
Correctimundo

Has anyone played this even? If so, what kind of character did you roll?

>>67053530
Yes. A ninja-themed water strider. played with a cricket and a cicada and had an adventure in buggy weebland.

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>>67053900
Tell us more anon

>>67053530
No one else? C'mon.

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>>67056063
It's late in the night but I'll tell of the notable characters I played for the playtest
For one there was Jalukah: The Blind Dreamweaver. Essentially the Party Mystic/Shaman who dealt with the dangerous magical artefacts. His last course of action was accidentally killing a fully-grown vessel before falling off of the God-Tree into the unknown

Specter was another notable one in that he was a flawed Vessel who was more-or-less a murderous manchild - Doom-Slaying murderfucker in combat, literal child the next. He died getting swarmed by dusted mantids when investigating an abandoned noble's mansion

Nihilance was another large vessel that focused more on grappling and CC, therefore as a flawed vessel he was obsessed with stealing shiny trinkets and baubles, had a deep fear of light. Last thing he did before he died was trying to steal a magical totem from the primary party before being killed by a weaver.

Concurrently however I am playing 2 characters in our current session:
Chekra is a former Mantis Lord turned lifeblood-reliant mantis warrior traveling with his ward, Morphal (the second character) with a caravan away from the God Tree
Morphal would be the second character, a lifeblood butterfly absolutely obsessed over Lifeblood, to the point that he'll preach it like a Mad Priest preaching the word of Radiance. A very anti-social bug when not around his companion though, very reliant on the dude.

>>67055072
that's very fluffy

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>>67053530
I wasn't sure if you've seen the characters on discord or not but seeing as void posted his may a well do the same.

There was a devout for a one shot which i made as a discount stag which was meant to grapple guys and shiv them. didn't work as planned.

There was pic related. a starry eyed little moth in the same one shot. he was the only survivor.

Currently playing two character in the same campaign.
First is Cuddles, the scariest spider (or any bug really) you will see, which you wont because he likes to cover himself in moss like it's a gillie and hunt pray from half the map away.
The other is Droog, a wasp soldier who went rogue and sided with the "enemy" and is currently trying to help said enemy flee the kingdom to find a better life.

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Any recommendations on the types of bugs that would be fun to build for a first campaign? My group has a couple of ideas but is mainly looking for examples.

>>67059933
mantises and spiders, are all decent fighter type builds. butterflies and moths for more social types. ants wasps as a mixed bag maybe? I'm really just talking out of my ass here. just don't commit Simic levels of genetic fuckery while making your character and you should be good.

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I noticed that the character sheet we use hasn't been posted yet so i may as well do that

>>67059933
I've mainly done vessels and they can be pretty good in a few different ways, from Crowd Control to disabling magic, booby trapping items, etc.
for Class ideas, Lifeblood is great as a offensive support since it can both give allies extra health and use that love old to power attacks in place of stamina. Void is good too, but it works better on Vessels since normal bugs take a penalty.
Otherwise yeah, just go at it however you like, hell you can try replicating other bugs like Quirrel or ehat have you.

>>67033034
There was at one point a great complaint that going first wasn't a big enough advantage because stamina is regenerated at the beginning of a turn, and so you'd waste all your stamina attacking a dude who'd just regenerate stamina and decimate your stamina-less self Something like:
"Blitz bauble
Cost: 3
During the first round of combat, bugs that are struck by a bearer of this charm do not regenerate stamina at the beginning of their
first turn."
would allow a blitzbug playstyle, without making it a staple of combat. Could be more autistically worded if you wanted its meaning to be absolutely unmistakable.

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Anyone got any idea how to stat those Steel golems seen in Steel Soul Mode and the Silksong trailer? Pic unrelated

>>67063336
they're made of metal and can apparently live forever if not disturbed (read, a very very long time)
I wouldn't place the smol versions that we saw in Silksong at the same "tier" that the one in the Steel Soul mode (forgot her name), but they should either be really tough, or simply immune to anything that's not soul damage

Can someone give me an info dump on what we know about Silksong?

>>67064608
No release date yet, but enemies hit harder, Hornet leaks soul on her last pip of health, silk and song are two very common themes, Lace is a speedy bitch, tools take a secondary resource called shards to build, her poncho has pockets which can be upgraded, bells have a very large presence in the new Kingdom of Pharloom, and I think that's all I know of so far
Also Seals of Binding are still prevalent in Pharloom, just with no Hollow Knight symbol on them this time around

>>67064608
>>67065203
Also a different currency so we might have to make some kind of universal currency like caps in fallout

>>67067292
Eh, I think unique currencies fit well with the setting.
Hell we came up with our own when Silksong was released, called "Tears", or Amber Tears, inscribed much like Rosaries.
Sides, unique currencies can work well if players decide to explore the wastes and discover newfound kingdoms

I want to FUCK Hornet

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>>67068596
Don't fug the bug

>>67068895
Wait, is Bug for Hug or Fug?
I'm confuzzed.

Stay alive tonight thread.

>>67064608
do you mean ALL the info or just the recent demo ? If it's the latter, Mossfag is always on point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG-XwgYNnjg

>>67072692
All would be good. Haven't looked into since it was announced.

>>67050088
>Shape of Unn
My fellow traveler
I'll never forget cheesing the radiance fight by speeding around the first phase with quickheal

>>67072831
well, I still recommend the video nonetheless, he goe into pretty much everything, including details on the past trailers + things that have been said since

>>67041060
>he couldnt do it

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Who is best bug and why is it Cloth?

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>>67068596
> tfw no lewd hornet greentext story.

A simple pastebin would do next time Anon. That kind of green text works better on those generals on /trash/

>>67076982
>And then Zote comes up over the hill, and adds Hornet’s rule to his precepts.

>>67074796
I like Bretta myself, she adds coziness to Dirtmouth.

Cloth was great though.

>Fighting the Traitor Lord with her
>shits looking grim for me as the battle goes on
>go to the sidelines hoping I heal quick enough
>Cloth keeping the Traitor Lord busy
>Before I know it she lands the final blow

Cloth was the real hero of that encounter. I was just happy to be there to support her.

F

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>>67076982
>>67077129
>>67077225

>Joke about lack of greentext
>Get greentext in response.

Fuck, I was only joking, but I’ll take it anyway. You have my gratitude.

>>67077176
You’re right anon.

https://pastebin.com/p64FZDWg
Here you are, for any future linkage.

>>67077292
You knew what you were doing you sick fuck

>>67079087
You gonna say it didn't work out though?

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I like the sounds she makes.

Booptis.

Can someone give me an example character and the creation process?

>>67082235
She's a cannibal right?

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>>67083465
It isn't cannibalism if they're not like you. Also here's a character sheet example

>>67083465
ok, so for this example im going to make a water strider.

i'll make him small so he's fast and graceful but not as strong, scary, and i only 15 hunger to work with

I give him 7 traits. Mandibles (1H 2S), Gracefulx2(4H 2S) Swift(4H), Blind(-5H -5S), Tremorsence(4H 3S), and Water Treading(3H)
so my stats are 2Might, 3Insight, 3Shell, 5Grace, 2Spook, 11Hunger, and 9Speed

next is weapon. i'll want something i can grace attack with so needle would be my option.

now is a proficency. I'll flavor it as "Scout" and take the Stealth, Navigation, Handling,and Parkour skills

and now we get to arts/spells. since i'm a weapons character i'll take an art. Let's go with Lunge

finally there's charms. since i want to be even more like Speedy Gonzalez i'll take the Sprintmaster charm

and that's pretty much it

>>67085402
>>67085371
Thanks guys, looking at the example and the character sheet really helped.

I don't want this thread to die but I don't know what to talk about or what to contribute.

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>>67092601
> Voidposting

These threads always devolve to desperate bumps that serve no purpose because no one talks about anything.

>>67093340
Then whaddya wanna talk about Anon?

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>>67094005
Not him, but what are some real life bugs that you would want to play, and how would they translate to a character?

For me the comet moth is my favourite insect. To make it I would have to go with path of radiance, since it is the only path that allows characters that don't eat, and a fully grown comet moth has no mouth. It would probably be pretty shitty because of this, but by taking both carnivore and herbivore I would have a lot of points to work with. That would allow me flight, among other things.
Character wise, the lack of a mouth would make them unable to talk, which might be a challenging thing to roll play. They would probably be at least mildly insane to let themselves be infected, and a very violent person because more combat ability is the only reason characters let themselves be infected in game.

>>67094005
Just how important has footwork been in games? Like, I understand you want a little sub-trait for each trait(belt size, load size, notches, and footwork), but if that's the case just have initiative be the subtrait. It's already got modifiers that ignore the parent trait. Footwork just seems like a mostly useless bit of rarely-used trivia or something, why not just let everyone move around to their leisure, so long as they don't exit an enemy's reach? Have you found the basic grid combat to conflict at all with the fluidity one would expect from a hollow knight game? Why are there so many fuckin arts. I'm on the discord too I just don't play in the games; I don't want you to get the impression these are things of such monumental importance that even anons with a passing interest would bring them up. Has anybody joked about attempting to get the biggest load size obtainable? Like, they could carry so much shit they'd drown enemies in their load?

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>>67094483
I wanna know if Giant Isopods are legal.

Why is Hunger a mechanic if Hollow Knight has no survival elements? Why/How was that decision made?

>>67074776
More like, I'd upgraded my nail long before I got to the mantises

>>67077207
Wait, what? She fights with you? I'd to deal with that chump all by myself.

>>67095233
Probably you missed the encounter where she's hiding from bugs? I would imagine she gets the dead if you miss that, like how you can not rescue the dumbass bug that thinks he's an actual hero.

>>67094483
Just because the RL bug doesn't have a mouth doesn't mean that your HK adaption can't.

Either way saving this idea for possible boss enemy

>>67094843
How big is 'Giant' exactly? Could they serve as an analogue to the Stagway?

>>67095233
Yeah, shit was pretty cash.

>>67094483
Love me some spiders, personally. I'd roll either one of those tiny jumping spiders (who's also with the Troupe and uses their less intimidating appearance to gather information) or an ogre spider who acts as some kind of Wastes bounty hunter/lawbringer.

>>67098081
'Giant' is in like, a foot long at the biggest. So in HK terms, fucking massive.

Naturally you could turn this waaayy down to playable size and say that in ancient history, your species was much, much bigger.

Dungeon Meshi has absolutely ruined me.
All I can think of isn't mechanics or encounters, but what the bugs eat.
There's fungus and of course, other bugs, but can you drink lifeblood? Make booze out of it?

>>67041060
I'm not sure if I'm proud of beating them with six hearts and a broken nail, or regretful for being so stubborn to not seek out any sort of upgrades. Regardless, "git gud" really is solid advice.

>>67100947
Brb rolling a big beetle who's travelling the world to perfect the tastiest swill ever.
Covered in colorful vials of different fluids, with flasks made out of the repurposed bodies of ticks and mosquito blood-bags all filled with his more succesful concoctions.

Maybe he has a grub or some other soft-body bug living on/in the bugshell barrel on his back who's perpetually shitfaced off of nipping the booze. But the Beetle swears he adds something great to the flavor so he can stay.

>>67100990
Growth mindset baby.
Good for games and good for life.

>>67100947
>>67101047
I made myself something of similar note
Specifically the lifeblood butterfly character I made took the Autobrewery trait, meaning the damn thing is a living brewery.
PLUS, with GM permission, said crazed lifeblood worshipper can also brew lifeblood brews using said Autobrewery trait.
Gutbrew is one hell of a disgusting drug.

Reading splatbooks is fun!

Anyone have PDFs of the original bug-centered setting that /tg/ came up with a while ago?

>>67094992
Hunger is basically an attempt to balance character creation, which is basically a point-buy system. I'm not a fan of it myself because:
1. It doesn't fit the source material.
2. It works only if the GM chooses to enforce it.

>>67103630
Literally everything only works if the gm enforces it dummy

>>67103630
HP is basically an attempt to balance character creation, which is basically a point-buy system. I'm not a fan of it myself because it works only if the GM chooses to enforce it.

>>67094992
>Why is Hunger a mechanic if Hollow Knight has no survival elements
>>67103630
>I'm not a fan of it myself because:
>1. It doesn't fit the source material.

For what it's worth it does kind of pay homage to Hollow Knights proto incarnation 'Hungry Knight'.

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I'm thinking about doing a Cordyceps infestation style campaign, a-la resident evil. I'm having trouble trying to decide on a big bad for my part to fight at the end of the campaign though. Any thoughts on a good cordycep infested buggo for them to fight that's terrifying on it's own?

>>67106773
While technically pushing the bug thing...
A bobbit worm.

Sitting below the forest-origin of the cordyceps infection is a dried up lakebed. Bathed constantly in the drifting spores and filled to bursting with the ruined corpses of the bugs whose infection has run its course.

In the middle, there's a barren patch. Devoid of corpses and enticing for any travelers who are tired of clambering over dead bugs. But no sooner then when you have touched down, it emerges with impossible speed, it's shell bloated with the fungus, foul tendrils poking out at the seems, it's every movement spreading the toxic spores. As the party fights it, it may occasionally return below the soil to recuperate, this moment of peace however is short lived, as the soil, shaken and loosened up by the movements of the worm and party, Cordyceps-Infected bugs claw their way out from beneath the parties feet, half-eaten and mutilated by the worm they know mindlessly serve.

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>>67107009
Forgot my pic

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>>67107026
That's a fan-fucking-tastic idea anon. Perfect for the design of the campaign, and perfect as a hulking monstrosity for a final boss.

>>67101609
What splat is that trait in even?

>>67039842
Because she has just enough limbs to toss the dough, prep the sauce/ingredients, and stab a bitch at the same time? Possibly appealing to some younger part of yourself that idolized your mother?

Fuck if I know, Anon. But now I want pizza. Thanks.

>>67110694
To quote a friend of mine, 'All of mankinds problems, especially all of my problems, would be solved if we all had more arms.'

>>67098273
I was already looking for spider archetypes for an unrelated thing, so:
> Jumping spider voltigeur
Mobile fighter with (nail-)lance. Very mobile, jump for impact and retreat. Bungee jumping with a silk thread from the ceiling to hit directly under with the force of the fall
> Tarantula knight:
Big armoured dude, also has detachable urticating hairs to fuck with sneakier opponents
> Wrap-around ambush spider ranger. Or chameleon crab spider.
I also thought of some shadow magic for sneaky spiders, but it's tricky in HK unless they are related to the void or worship it somehow.
> Deinopis net caster as retiarius
> Battle seamstress that resulted in >>67025545
> Some sort of silk based magic user
Magically control silk threads to grab things or to control marionettes (other bugs or moults)
> Spider martial artist
Imagine grappling with eight limbs and being able to produce glue and rope at will. Also silk-rope-dart.
> Probably a poison specialist
Don't have one right now. A ninja Sydney funnel-web maybe? Or a black widow for a more classical look? Or a spitting spider for range poison?
> Creepy social spiders' nest
I like them not sapient. At least individually.
> Broodmother type
> Dolomedes submariner

Pelican spiders are weird looking enough to get a mention too.

>>67110466
It would be from this doct made by our GM/one of the Devs, for addition into the main doct

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19GhEwn1Wu4DyD8UamPSMpMElQ3iOO0I1dqYDNh3GmWE/edit

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>>67112144
>Why does this guy keep mentioning pelican spiders
>Oh?
>That's why.

>>67112419
Thank you anon.

Brothels in bugworld must be the bestworst and worstbest kind of places.

>>67020685
So what exactly is Geo? Is it fossilized bug carapaces or is it any bit of exoskeleton that can be harvested? Is that why killing other bugs still nets money even if they weren't part of the kingdom?

>>67113641
How so anon?

>>67115766
I always assumed it was some kind of rock, hence the name

>>67115766
>>67116854
Lorewise, they're fossilized bug shells used as currency within Hallownest.
No idea if inflation gets called into action since apparently it can be found in rocks and what not. The Pale King doesn't seem to understand economics of mineable fossils

>>67117295
>No idea if inflation gets called into action since apparently it can be found in rocks and what not. The Pale King doesn't seem to understand economics of mineable fossils
I'm pretty sure there's dialogue ingame that mentions geo being edible.

Maybe that factors into it. Their money is also a food source.

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>>67117295
>>67116854
>>67115766
Not sure if this factors into it, but a single geo isn't worth fuck-all and the majority of those deposits one can find aren't hundreds of units in a single spot.

For examply, the lumenfly lantern, a seemingly mundane piece of equipment, is worth like, 1800 geo.
Additionally we don't know how wages work or how the economic differences between small and big bugs are, but it'd be fascinating.

>>67098609
a Giant Isopod boss sounds amazing

>>67121193
>'Giant' is in like, a foot long at the biggest. So in HK terms, fucking massive.

Could be used a a very interesting NPC like the Worm in Kingdoms Edge with his children acting as a stagway of sorts. What was up with that worm/grub anyway? He claims he's not a divine being but he's still obviously above the average bug.

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>>67117295
>It can be found in rocks and so forth
Yeah so can gold and silver.

>>67121805
An proper chonky marine isopod would probably be big enough to act as almost like a living settlement. Like a moving city that travels on a subterranean rivers between Hallownest, Oakshade and whatever other cities you can come up with.

>>67121805
>He claims he's not a divine being
He only ever claims not to be a wyrm.
Also, he's a caterpillar, not a worm.

>>67121985
>Like a moving city that travels on a subterranean rivers between Hallownest, Oakshade and whatever other cities you can come up with.
That would be pretty comfy honestly

Moving between cities carrying goods, supplies and services to and from the last sane members of failing civilisations while trying to find out what became of the Isopods long lost mate that they cry for in their sleep.

>>67122264
>Also, he's a caterpillar, not a worm.
Ah, my bad.

>>He claims he's not a divine being
He only ever claims not to be a wyrm.
But he doesn't have the pale incandescence that is common place to divine beings so while he doesn't claim to be such there is very little suggesting that he is.

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>>67122302
Must everything hollow knight related be made to sad? Can we not have happy isopods?

>>67122302
There are two higher beings, the pale lady and the king, who are the pale beings. They have that glow.
The nightmare's heart, the void entity and Unn don't have it. So while I'm not convinced he is a higher being either, I'm not willing to rule it out just yet.

Oy, after reading this thread, I'm gonna have to get my PC fixed so I can actually beat Hollow Knight.

>>67122510
>There are two higher beings
there are a lot more, since higher being "tablets" can only be read by them and you can read them before mastering the void
It's up to you if you think "the" Hollow Knight could read them or not, but I think that the pale king wouldn't have made them otherwise

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These bugs roll up and slap yo girls abdomen.
wyd?

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>>67124861
I draw my nail and get ready to dance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgWE-1IenVc
#2 boss fight, no questions asked

>>67122479
Just do as I do anon and take comfort in the presence of Bretta.

>>67122510
>So while I'm not convinced he is a higher being either, I'm not willing to rule it out just yet.
Fair enough. With how little hard lore we have I suppose it's best to er on the side of caution.

>>67127534
Huh. The two on the right bear an uncanny resemblance to a pair of characters I'm playing, but I've never seen that.

Hollow Knight Western Edition when?
I want to shoot a bug with a six-shooter and ride in on a horsefly.

>>67129867
I don't think it would work honestly for vidya. A large part of HK's charm is the moody atmosphere that just wouldn't work for a western.

Be great for the pnp game though.

>>67127534
>>67129165
Neat!

>>67128497
Isn't that just a shy guy (female) ?

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>>67020685
man I'm glad I saved the art from the older threads

>>67130357
It's Quirrel in a maid outfit.

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>>67130494
Not going to lie I had to look at it for a minute but then I noticed his weird potbelly.

I think it comes across as a shyguy because the blue ribbons on the outfit make his head look like hood.

>>67130622
Makes me want to have a go at giving the Chosen Undead and Good Hunter HK style bug personas.

>>67130814
Do it.
Good Hunterbug should have an oversized mantis-claw cleaver.

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>>67130858
I pulled this from /v/ a long time ago. Good times when we had an actual drawfag on there

>>67130873
No cuphead/10

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>>67130914
There was a cuphead version of the template, but I never bothered to save it. If you post something similar on /v/ though you might just get lucky and get it
Or you might get a bunch of contrarian fags complaining about it, either or

>>67130858
Good idea anon. What kind of bug should I model him after? He'll have his hat and cape obscuring most of him.

And Chosen undead bug? Some kind of little, ridged beetle I guess?

>>67131036
Chosen Undead?
Pillbug.
Constant. Fucking. Rolling.

>>67131085
can the Pillbug attach spiked armor to build themselves into an offensive roll build?

Have a scribble guys

I might redo Undeadbug because he's pretty derpy looking. I didn't have as clear an idea of what I wanted to do with him as Good Hunterbug.

>>67131229
That lil' bastard works his nail into his rolls!

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>>67131510
Erryone forgetin' pictures tonight!

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>>67131514
good shit drawfriend

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So being the hard-core voidfaggot for all things void-related, how would you all work in various shade-entities now that the Shade Lord is a real, living thing?
How would a campaign go with /ourvessel/ being the BBEG but not intentionally so?
what kind of void enemies would you expect The Shade Lord to create with such a vast influence over the Void itself? Beyond just simple, amorphous blobs and formations of void and thought?

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>>67131583
To add onto this, I'll throw in a few of my own suggestions that I've been brewing on, of which I might also throw onto the Dev Discord for review:

>As the Shade Lord manifests itself into the physical world, the void begins to take on a more definitive shape and form.
>Voidlings - amorphous beings of void, with many eyes or many tendrils, are considered to be the weakest of void entities - still relatively dangerous however when you consider the soul-sapping, corrosive effects of Void.
>Shades are also somewhat weak when compared to Voidlings, though their form gives them an advantage in Void-casting.
>As the Shade Lord's influence begins to take hold of The Abyss, however, Voidlings and Shades begin to take a more defined shape.
>Void Husks - creatures so full of void that the substance itself spreads across the shell and steals the form of the victim - begin to shamble from their deathbeds and graves as ghastly incantations, much more dangerous compared to Dust Husks due to the Void's Soul-Sapping properties. They still lack the higher intelligence of more formed and focused beings of Void.
>Higher Shades are shades that have taken on the form of their former vessel. Having loss their ability of flight, they now focus more on martial prowess in comparison to void magics, making them much more concerning when their speed is taken into account.
>Soon, The Hollowed begin to appear, a mockary of larger vessels given focus from their unseen mind. Hollowed take on the form of very specific large vessels, much akin to one Hollow Knight or perhaps more matured, more experienced Vessel. Their combination of Void Magic and Martial Prowess makes them especially dangerous to the more hardened warriors, and a near death-sentence to the inexperienced adventurer. As a figment of Void given focus, it shouldn't be underestimated when being fought.
continued in the next post

>>67131583
It's likely that the Shade Lord would spawn Siblings en masse from itself, or warped and tortured mimcries of the Knight and similar such Vessels. Likely, these formations of Void are from the little Ghost crafting said entities from recollections of its own past and history.

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>>67131514
Thanks man. Redid the knight. Still not 100% happy with him but I've spent too much time on him.

Now off to grind my fundies.

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>>67131739
>Once the veil between Dream and Reality begins to weaken in the Shade Lord's presence, its influence begins to fully manifest as many-armed Void Aspects. One can tell them between Hollowed Shades by their soul-piercing eight-eyed glare and their tendril-like arms which lack hands or fingers, despite their unique and often twisted physical appearances - almost as if they were incomplete forms of the Shade Lord itself. Wherever their presence is made, the Void begins to take shape in their image - Void given Form, shaped into twisted parodies of creatures both native and foreign, shades given a more concise structure and void entities given more definition to their weak forms. They are the most dangerous of the Shade Lord's influence, and only the most suicidal, or bravest of parties can only hope to take down such manifestations.
>And thus, as the Aspects of Void converge and the veil is finally pulled, the Shade Lord is given true form as a focused, living avatar of the Void itself. A Higher Being of the Void itself, the Shade Lord can perhaps challenge even the Lord of Dust in power and strength, as soul-strucked worshippers call upon their "God of Gods" to bring forth the end of their Kingdom. Should a party dare wish to challenge the power of such a Higher Being, they will find their battle to be one fraught with void, sharpened tendrils and harsh whips as this battle-hardened formation of Void accepts their challenge, as fruitless as it may be.
>While not impossible to banish a higher being from this mortal realm, The Lord of Shades is considered a mighty challenge for those that wish to preserve against the encroaching darkness of The Void. Some say that petals of pale light may aid in their quest, but such things are a rarity even beyond the realms of ever-lasting Kingdoms, both fraught with life and desolate in ruin.

>>67131898
That's what I'd like to think too.
Eh, sides, it was a brain drain to spice up what would be a kino-tier fight between /ourvessel/ ascended and whoever's crazy enough to fight a higher being like The Lord of Dust or The Lord of Shades/Shade Lord.
Plus, lets be honest, The summoning of Shade Lord/The Coming of The Shade Lord through the Godmaster's void-filled dream realm would perhaps lead on to a more concise, united Abyss under one mind, but that's just something I'd like to think anyways.

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Cartographer-Drawfag when? I wanna see a map of Hollow Knight's world involving Hallownest, Pharloom, Oakshade, The Great Wastes, and any old or dead kingdom that may have been ravaged by time/other higher beings

>>67123419
Sorry, I shouldn't have assumed people would have the attention span to read long sentences.

>>67123419
I'll humor you with this despite it being late as shit
The way I see it, a Higher Being is a mortal God, or a physical being that can exert a powerful magical influence over those that worship or accept them.
This would be the case of Unn, whose influence has led to the physical creation of Greenpath and the Mossbugs.
Higher Beings, however, may lose their power after a given time, again with the likes of Unn - who is seen slumbering in the dream of the Godseeker - and Grimm - who must sacrifice himself to the Nightmare Heart in order to live eternal. It's not known if this happens to all higher beings or if it's just isolated to Unn and Grimm, but The Radiance and The Pale King are known to exert a powerful amount of influence over the inhabitants of Hallownest. In The Radiance's case, this influence is so powerful it transcends the barrier between the Dream Realm and the Physical Realm, and manifests itself as The Infection.

>>67132802
And as to why The Vessel can read those tablets, they're the child of The Pale King and The White Lady - who is another Higher Being much like her husband - and casted into the Abyss before hatching, literally why The Pale King says "Born of God and Void"
The Vessels are higher beings, only marred by the Void in order to fulfil the destiny of sealing away The Radiance.

>>67029838
Glad to see the thread is still up, went offline for a few days!

My idea for a new kingdom pitch would be based on something like this: I really liked the concept of bug sentience being dependant on the Higher Beings that gifted them with it. Wherever this would happen, a kingdom of sorts would spring up. If the bugs strayed too far away from the source of their consciousness, they would revert back to their primal state - unless escorted by a Higher Being (Grimm) or protected by a powerful spell (seals). So bugs travelling between different kingdoms would be a rather rare occurence...But what if instead of bugs roaming around, a whole kingdom would roam?

This "nomad kingdom" would be set up on a giant beast (giant by bug standards), some sort of a fantastic crustacean/mollusc hybrid, which slowly moves through the ash-storms of the sunless wasteland of the HK world - in my imagination, the benthic of a long ago dried up sea. Bored into the great shell of the creature, a strange "underground" city would persevere.

>>67132831
(cont.)
Bugs piggybacking on it's shell basked in the Creature's aura and in turn it gifted them with tiny bug-minds, thinkig all on their own. The beast would be a Higher Being, roaming through the wastes attracted to the lights in the night - or something else hidden to the naked bug eye...Sometimes, those lights would be other kingdoms, and for a time the beast would be passing them by or "monitoring" for a while. And in that interval some bugs from those other kingdoms might, curious and adventerous as they can be, hop on for a ride - or the natives of the Nomad kingdom could visit new places and stay awhile, until their home returns to "pick them up".

The bugs living on the shell, dug into the armor of the creature to hide from the harsh outside, though there are still a few small outposts on the surface.They mine different substances that the shell is made of to build their homes, tools and other stuff. Depending on the quality of the substance, depends how easy it is to mold it into what you need. The substance is also imbued by the power of this Higher Being, providing wonderous properties and abilities to the items bugs create. And the deeper you go, the higher is the quality of the substance...However some of the bugs "dug a bit too deep" and came through the shell to the other side, inside the organism of the creature. This prompted some bug-like beings that lived inside the beast to attack the invaders, a sort of an "immune" reaction to the threat. The Samurai Jack episode where he gets imprisoned in the titanic creature should give you the idea. The pain these expeditions and excavations caused to the beast also affect the bug civilization living on and in it - with the change of its mood the tides of emotions would sweep across the kingdom through its aura, making some of the inhabitants to go mad with rage, berserk with sorrow etc.

>>67132839
(cont.)
This would be the primary point of conflict for this kingdom. Characters/protagonists would have to either satisfy themselves with a low quality/low power substance or venture deeper into the creature, risking sometimes much more than their own lives but also having the chance to find ever weirder "artifacts" produced by their host. Items in this kingdom would be mostly organic or organic-derivative in nature and the deeper into the creature you went the weirder the living "levels" would become.

Different parties would get in confrontation depending how greedy and power-hungry they are, how much they care about protecting or exploiting their environment. But bugs for the most part would be unaware that their moving kingdom is a living creature and that would also be a plot point for characters to uncover. This Higher Being is more like a force of nature than a being with a precise agency like Pale King for example. Uncovering the mysteries surrounding the creature and finding a way to communicate with this "living world" would also be one of the plot points. Kingdom's currency would be called "Roe" (and is exactly what you think it is), with the kingdom aesthetic drawing some inspiration from Samorost...and that's all I've got so far. Still can't make up my mind about the name for the realm though.

Thoughts, comment and critique pls?

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>>67132831
>>67132839
The idea of sentience being tied to that of a Higher Being has always been a hot topic of debate between the lorefags of hollow knight. Through truth be told it may be dispelled with the release of Silksong, as it seems Hornet still retains much of her sentience and memories of Hallownest when sent into Pharloom.
How Quirrel loses his memories though is a mystery to me. Personally I theorize that the more time spent living in the wastes - with dust blowing against one's shell and barely any food or sustenance abound - eventually their mind just decays to the environment.
Again though that wouldn't explain how those bell cultists would still be retaining their own mind as well if the trek to Pharloom is a multi-day trip.
Still, you got some interesting ideas here Anon, some that could play off well in the world of Hallownest with creeping giants and desolate dusty wastes, plunged in permanent night.

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>>67131527
Fuggg forgot to post artwork, I will bump with three to make up for the picless worldbuilding posts

>>67029838
And to be completly honest, I didn't check on the Oakshade for a long while, might be that it changed for the better. What repelled me at first was how the kingdom stood out when compared with the rest of the setting - a sun basked desert kingdom situated on a tree - quite broke the mood and established HK themes for me. But that's just me ofc.

>>67132847
There is one critique I do have about it, and it's the Roe as currency
Chances are there will be bugs that worship the Higher Being they inhabit, much like how there are bugs that worship The Pale King, how there were formerly bugs that worshipped The Radiance, and in Oakshade, how bugs worshipped the Oakwyrm (along with the dusted bugs worshipping The Lord of Dust/The Dust Lord). Having the eggs of a Higher Being as currency seems a little weird compared to if they just used the shell of the Higher Being to base their currency off of, as I assume the eggs/roe will be much more uncommon than the shell off its back

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>>67132960
Yeah I will admit, it bothered me too. With Silksong showing off bright, sunny-like areas though I've mainly ran the excuse that the God-Tree (the giant tree of which Oakshade was founded on) exudes a constant glow much like a Higher Being, simulating life and bringing forth plants and flowers for the inhabitants to feast on, both within and near the tree itself.
It's that, or have The Lord of Dust simulate a desert sun much like how The Radiance simulates the sun itself, baking the landscape around Oakshade as it bides its time for the tree's unnaturally protective magic to finally give way to its own influence.
The other devs might disagree with me on that but hey, to each their own

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>>67132847
I really do like the idea, and it opens the door to some wondrously creative things.
Maybe the surface outposts are the homes of outcasts and deviants, as being so far from the body-heat of the beast and exposed to the near-infinite sunless wastes one might see from the top might drive bugs mad.

Imagine the party walking along a road to an outpost, and they notice something. A lone bug, head craned skyward, staring into the blank nothingness above and unresponsive to all outside stimulus, aside from swaying back and forth slightly. And as they approach, they spot another doing the same. Then another, then another. They finally reach the outpost, and the only bug there not staring upwards has a great, wide-brimmed hat, weighed down with many stones so he can never raise his head high enough to stare into the damning sky above. He's surrounded by a living forest of hypnotized bugs, idly humming a broken and eratic tune. He greets the party with a ragged, rasping voice, his every motion janky, like a rusted metal puppet being jerked around. He only says one thing to them at first.

"It was just a joke. I didn't actually see anything up there. They did though. They all did."

>>67132847
Maybe you could have a faction of bad guys trying to kill the travelling beast (the Traveller?) for some reason. Maybe they believe bugs SHOULD be mindless, that it's the right order of things, or maybe they are lead by a vengeful higher being that hate the Traveller for some reason like believing his kingdom fall because of him (rightfully or not). They would try to drill deeper and deeper, fighting with the beast immune system. Maybe they have access to some soulkilling magic or device: imagine an necrotized inner area they successively killed.

Area ideas:
> Shell surface
Harsh waste inhabited by outcasts (or bugs from other kingdom couldn't get in) trying to hide from the winds in whatever crevices or shelter they can find or build, they say the winds wither the soul. Also empty minded bugs and weird beings that can live outside any kingdom, and maybe the traveller has some external organs that would be totally incomprehensible here. The winds are opponents on their own.
> The outer Spire
A shining city built on the outer shell, it is completely sealed from the outside. Part of the kingdom aristocracy live here watching over the world while totally cut from it. It's construction might be hinted to be an atrocity as workers had to suffer the winds. Maybe a previous evil king raided visited kingdoms and used slave labour?
Maybe a revolt or bad guys breached part of it in a terrorist attack, letting the winds enter and ravage it.
> Outer shell
The out part of the shell is rock solid and not very comfortable but protected. Various shafts may lead to the surface but are likely to be sealed or defended. Some outcasts from the surface may have find a way in and build an hidden village.
> Middle shell
Where most of the kingdom live. Most of the population don't care about anything outside or below. Or maybe there could be bugs from many kingdoms making it a cosmopolitan city. Maybe some war of the gangs going on?

>>67133594
Possible factions:
> Imperialist: want to conquer other kingdoms the traveller come in contact with.
> Isolationist: Fuck everything from the outside
> Order of the Traveller: a religious order devoted to the Traveller. Can they really contact the Traveller? It may be possible through the dream realm.
> Merchants/explorers/savants guilds that favour relations with visited kingdoms. The most idealists dreaming of being the link between all bugkind
> Various picked up tribes, some may act like mafia protecting its own
> Winds cult: Fanatics believing the Traveller is an abomination and must be killed

The kingdom may have had various kings (not higher beings, just bugs getting in power) each favouring his faction. So they had conquerors, isolationists, merchant kings, a Traveller devout and maybe even a foreigner king and an heretical king.

Important people from all of those factions may have a safe place in the outer shell or in the deep shell.

> The deep shell
Here you have your mines, laboratories and such extracting resources from the traveller. But also the main temple of Traveller's Order and Winds cult trying to pierce through.
It's also start to get weird with creatures from the outside leaking out.
> The inward Spire
Reflection of the outer Spire, except it shows the inside of the Traveller. Maybe the king's palace? Maybe the Order inner sanctum? As the other Spire, a breach would prove disastrous.
> Divine flesh
Everything deeper is sacred lands, protected by the Traveller's immune systems, only inhabited by a few lost saints of the order and spirits.
Also contain the dead zone, where the cult manage to kill part of the Traveller. What horror have being used here? A void being?

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>>67130939
>slugcat

>>67133594
>vengeful higher being that hate the Traveller for some reason
Extending on that: maybe he's a coward that fled his falling kingdom, abandoning it . Maybe he was trying to conquer the Traveller, or was counter attacking an invasion from the shell's kingdom and get stuck when the Traveller moved. Maybe he got separated from a loved one and try to control the Traveller to go back.

>>67132847
>>67132839
>>67132831

Sounds cool man. I feel it really captures the spirit and feel of the game while shifting it to an organic environ helps to distinguish it from the original. Good job!

>>67132886
>Pharloom
>Far
>Loom
As in 'that place we make silk way over there' ?
So is it pretty much confirmed at this point that this is where the weavers fled to?

>>67132960
what a cute boi

>>67134756
>So is it pretty much confirmed at this point that this is where the weavers fled to?
There is a weaver in the trailer, so yeah, pretty much.

>>67134756
it is their original home, that much is confirmed, and I think it's where they said that they left for ?
the demo had multiple weaver-stylised doors

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>>67132847
What would the giant beast want? Is he just living its life? Or is he looking for something?

>>67142959
Giant bug pussy, duh.
Nah, I would think the beast is migrating across the world, and will eventually arrive at it’s final resting place amongst it's own kind, it's body breaking down to provide for its young.

>>67133779
Isolationists might want to cripple the traveler to stop it from reaching other kingdoms

>>67124861
Die three times then feel like an idiot when I beat them effortlessly on my fourth attempt.

If this thread is going to be around more, we should add some more shit to the tabletop. Things like added encounter tables, loot tables, that kind of thing.

>>67147400
I added a sort of "random location generation" using a d12 IIRC, but that doct's been buried underneath a lot of other shit

>>67147400
>>67147421
Correction, it was a 3d6 table but honestly, a d100 would probably work way better than what I had going on. Here it is for those that are interested though
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KcJtDoK9wH8Pnkro4gpVy7RXk5eOWcyYK2Chk8eK6do/edit?usp=sharing

>>67021431
A link please?

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>>67147635
Here you go.
https://discord.gg/Muxkaam

>>67147661
Thanks.

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>>67132886
Somehow I always assumed it by default, with Radiance for example granting the bugs a hivemind and Pale King in contrast granting them individual minds and Grimm giving them a madness of sorts (not sure if his followers are bugs at all though). It makes it a cheap move imo to steal away a part of the power and agency generally assigned to HBs if the bugs can think on their own from the start. Also messes up a bit with the meaning of the lore and denies a plot hook or two (bugs starting to think on their own, without a HB intervention). But that's all of course my interpretation.

As far as Hornet is concerned and SS, we are yet to understand what power drives behind the bugs of Pharloom, maybe some magic or focus allowed them to traverse the wastes without losing their minds? And Hornet is kind of a lackluster example; she is not an ordinary bug, essentially a "demi-god", so the general rules don't apply to her, I think. Though I agree that the "sentience leak" in the wastes should be gradual, both due to exposure to the elements, social isolation and HB power absence, instead of an instant loss.

>>67132970
The thing is, as I mentioned, most of the bugs living in *placeholder* are unaware it is actually a gigantic creature. The idea was that this Roe has a healing power of sorts and is an important part of items you can create by molding, so bugs use it as a currency for its value. The being produces this "roe" in abundance, with more powerful (and thus more valuable) variants found deeper in. Some bugs might worship it for their healing aspect I guess, but a true revelation comes when they discover what it actually might be. Resemblance to roe might be just superficial or most of the eggs unfertilized - the titanic beast is probably the last of it kind.

>>67148157
If not the Roe, then maybe the crystallized blood of the beast? Simply called 'Rubies' or something similar. I do like the Roe idea though. Many of the enemies present in this adventure-setting should be based off of parasites or vermin like flies or vermin, vilified and hated because they literally ruin the 'land' with their presence, turning things septic and nasty if left unchecked.

Also how would the bugs not realize that their entire world is on the move?
Additionally, it needs a name, have some suggestions.

>Wanderheart
>Wanderhome
>The Shambling Isle

>>67148157
>most of the bugs living in *placeholder* are unaware it is actually a gigantic creature.
Same as above, how could they be unaware of that? Don't they realise they're moving? Or do they and they somehow think it's some sort of geological phenomenon somehow?

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>>67132998
pretty much the issues I have with it as well, but as you said, it is rainy cyberpunk vs daylight cyberpunk, comes to preference. Sunny knight just brakes the mood for me, though it doesn't mean it can't be a wholesome knight.

>>67133108
Scary storytime appreciated; I can get that shellside would be "home" to castouts, away from the heat...until the cold and wind have had their way with them. The Outside was supposed to be a rough relief, spiky and spiny as with some crab shells. I envisioned it mostly barren apart from a few homesteads here and there, bugs farming weird lichen forests and alien-looking fern attached to the shell of the creature.

>>67133594
The main faction was supposed to be a militaristic "evil empire", group of bugs parasitizing on the Creature (I guess Traveller will do for now), parading around with their weapons and bullying other bugs. They "milk" their Host without for every resource that they can, exploiting their surrounding withouta second though. Imperials believe they can get away with whatever they want because they provide the main protection against the prawn like creatures emerging from the beast that are attacking the kingdom...unaware that they are the cause of the incursions for the most part. They want to maintain the monopole on artifacts and items and send raiding expeditions whenever another kingdom appears nearby, taking slaves and riches. Inspiration for them comes from mosquitoes, flesh-eating wasps and other parasitic/bloodsucking type of insects. They would be kinda the antagonists of the kingdom. The main threat to them would be a group of bugs that are marked by the Empire as troublemakers, because they are attempting to live in tune with the Creature, and try to develop a way to tame the invading monsters instead of just killing them off indefinitely. Without the threat, the Empire loses much of it's hold over the bugs living in the kingdom.

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>>67133594
I like the area ideas, especially the necrotic tissue one and the "Cyst of Splendor"

>>67133779
Some nice ideas here as well!

>>67133864
I would keep the HB limit to the Creature only for this kingdom and make the conflict more set around the bugs trying to uncover the mysteries of their world, with various powers fighting for control or even attempting to attain godhood through artifacts and items produced by the Traveller.

>>67134756
Thanks, glad you like it!


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>>67139720
Seemed at the time like the first post didn't register so I posted again fug

>>67142959
Well I had several ideas about that. The Traveller I see akin to both the Lion Turtle from Avatar, Discworld A'Tuin and the Ocean from Solaris - he has a purpose of his own and motives that the bugs can hardly understand. This world, in my vision, is a dying earth type of a scenario with a glimmer of hope at the end of a very, very long tunnel. He is maybe futilely searching for a mate, hopelessly calling in the night without an answer. What happens if he finds one? Or did his kin died off ages ago and the Traveller is the last of his kind? Can he in that case find a mate in another HB? Can bugs help and fetch a willing bride? Is that why he is inexorably drawn to the lights in the night that so happen to be inhabited by other HBs? Maybe he needs something in order to leave fertile offspring on his own and that something is what he's desperately searching for...can the bugs help the Traveller with that? Will he reward them with something in return? Or is he just at an infant stage and is soon to grow out of his current shell - and burst out and leave it behind, or as a hermit crab drop it off and change it for another. Can the bug kingdom survive this doom? Did this happen before already? How many shell kingdoms were before this? Or will he go into a chrysalis and mutate into some other form of HB and assimilate the bug kingdom with him into this new form? Or finding no hope for any of this, lock into a protective cyst to wait for an age, sealing the kingdom with himself forever (in bug perspective)? The bugs need to understand their Host soon, before it becomes too late. And these are just some of the interpretations bugs might stumble upon in their attempts to understand the Traveller...

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>>67148444
>>67151900
The bugs are small, they don't see that far, and the creature is in comparison very big. The howling cold storm bashing outside is also making them to prefer to stay inside the shell, where they've dug their homes and where their food and most of the relevant places are. They don't really care that much about the unforgiving Out There. The Host creature is also as I said a type of molusc slash coral reef slash snail, so it is gliding slowly, gently sliming it's way through the wasteland - if you weren't looking at the stary sky on the occasional clear night, you wouldn't even be aware that you are moving. It would also create a point of conflict, with some of the bugs adherening to the "sedentary dogma" (world is static and doesn't move) and some rebelious star gazing schoars turned outcasts outrageously claiming not only that the world is on the move ("And yet it moves!") - but that there are other worlds out there as well! The truth is of course a closely guarded Imperial secret, hidden from the general populace.

I also think the colorful sea slugs would make for a good inspiration for the alien creatures attacking the kingdom apart from prawn-like and crab-like enemies.

As far as the name goes, I'm currently set mostly on "Whorlrove" - rove for roving, moving and whorl for the way the shell is intricately curled. Is a bit of a mouthful. But it was meant to represent the shortsightedness of the inhabitants as well - they see and understand only the surface, but there is a lot more going on beneath.

I also had an idea for an are where the howling winds and the gaps in the shell would create a kind of eerie, mornful music. Not sure where to go with that though.

>>67154077
Living on a giant, living orgasm you have to have some freaky bio-shit going on.
Maybe there's a parasite-cult that believe they can ascend/become stronger by feasting on the world itself, maybe some horrific tape-worm monster living deep inside the Traveller peddling a foul 'gut-magic' style witchcraft to the bugs it encounters.

>>67133594
>soulkilling magic or device
>winds that wither the soul

I was toying with the idea that the Traveller is in some way connected with snail shamans, being a mollusc and all and some of the defending organism resembling sea slugs, but didn't know where to run with that.

>>67154203
Well /tg/ loves its biopunk and so do I. I just wouldn't go too far into the freaky territory, without keeping the comic, wholesome and a bit goofy feel of HK. No hard science, just cool and cute weirdness. Anything from symbiont charms (or equivalent), organic weapons and living items and armor, all seems ok as long as it doesn't break the theme too much.

>>67154826
The Parasite would be a villanious force, not some biotech nightmare-peddler, to the pc's at least. Their presence rots and decays at the traveler and they draw strength from the resulting pestilence, therefore being antagonistic to the players just by being there.

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>>67153423
>pic related
amazing designs

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>>67156279
I have more

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>>67156410
>Samus and Dark Samus
you made this Metroidfag too god damn happy

>>67132960
That art of yours looks a little familiar. You post on /v/ drawthreads by chance?

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>>67133842
He's a good lad

>>67153545
So, can bugs just talk to him? Or would you have to go through the dream? Or maybe he has intermediaries, avatars or something?
Does it have an Hornet stand in protecting its secrets?

>>67152916
>Inspiration for them comes from mosquitoes, flesh-eating wasps and other parasitic/bloodsucking type of insects.
> Instead of soul, you have a blood resource
> You can replenish it by drinking out of the Traveller's veins or creatures that do

>>67158518
Eeeeh the blood replacing soul sounds a little too deviating from the setting, since for the most part all bugs have soul.
Perhaps they would be less magically inclined, in comparison to the Weavers, the Mages of the Soul Sanctum, or /tg/'s Oakshade

>>67159223
Hey maybe it's just how mosquito gained sapience and soul?

>>67159958
Maybe
The real question, however, is what signature weapon these bugs would have.
Hallownest has the Nail, Pharloom has the Pinblade, and Oakshade mainly relies on Magic. What would these bugs rely on most, spiked shells? Or large darner needles?

>>67160148
Scalpels taking the form of a long, bladed pole-arm?

>>67157439
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>>67156389
>Kirby isn't the knight

>>67160148
In the system, the Screw is a weapon used to cause bleeding damage. A land where the mighty draw on God blood for power could use such a weapon to damage a target's Blood reserves instead.

>>67160819
He has to suck Mii first

>>67160845
If the bugs rely on Blood, would it make more sense to have the Higher Being consist of Lifeblood?

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>>67156389
Fuck yes.

>>67156389
>>67156410
Can the bugs in the tabletop get crystal lazers?

>>67162621
We've discussed it before and even had a drawfag make a bit of concept art for it, but personally I dunno if that would really work
For one, the Crystals seem to have close ties to The Radiance in that they cast "a Light Refracted" - or essentially focus her influence through them. This can be evidenced by the Crystal Guardian's Dream Dialogue - in that all of it is in all caps, a sign of being taken in direct control by The Radiance.
Then again, there were such things as Crystal Golems mining away at the Crystal Peaks, but even then the crystals are a bit of a mystery in how they function or how closely related they are to The Radiance, or even if it just refracts the light of Higher Beings in general (IE The Pale King's "Pale Light", Radiance's Light, etc)

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Don't you die on me, Thread

Have y'all ever done inns in your settings?
A proper buggy inn would be the comfiest thing on earth.

>>67165122
Technically in our own campaign we stopped at a rather comfy village during a trek through the lands of Oakshade, but otherwise no we haven't

How horrifying would a mouse be in this setting?

>>67166596
probably very since mammals don't seem to exist in the world of Hollow Knight..
This also includes birds, humans, and what have you. The only giant things would be elder god-sized bugs or Wyrms

>>67162621
It's relatively easy to homebrew a path or weapon in the system, so while that's not really a thing in the game, it easily could be at a particular table.

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bug bump in hope of more kingdom-building

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fuggg where did all the bugbois went

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>>67169921
lemme post some bugs

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>>67152916
>>67133779
> Mosquitoes imperialists
> Less mobile parasites lead the isolationists
Isolationists are dicks and will fight you for being an outsider but weakening them may be bad politic as it would open the road for imperialists.
> Snail/other spiritual bugs worshipping the Traveller and trying to keep parasitism reasonable. Maybe more radicals elements may want to purge the parasites?

>>67098609
>So in HK terms, fucking massive
We have no idea how big HK bugs are canonically.

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I still wish we actually got that Tiso fight, instead of a bit disappointing anticlimax

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moar bugs, big and small

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>>67174368
and vessel stuff too

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>>67174239
Yeah, we could at least have a dream arena fight. Maybe a repeatable like Zote, until he can pass on.
But the anticlimax was kind of the point.

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>>67174579
I actually want to know what happened to the broken vessel. How did he end up like that?

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>>67174623
Radiance took him over, that is all. And the other vessel that you get the Mothwing Cloak from got it's ass kicked by Hornet.

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>try to fight skilled dreamer
>they throw your body into the dream world to let you rot forever or seal you away in one of these bad boys
>try to sneak up on them and get in a sneak attack
>sike! they're just an astral projection, their real body is 10 miles away, hidden behind a literally indestructible forcefield and even if they were actually here they could teleport away in the blink of an eye
>fine, try to overthrow them in a scheming battle of political wits instead
>they see everything you do and can read minds on top of that, good luck ever out-smarting one of these motherfuckers
Is everyone with dream powers this strong or did the Pale King teach them his forbidden Higher Being jutsus?

>>67176443
Dreamers are kinda weird.
For the most part, they acted as part of the Seal of Binding that kept the Black Egg Temple all sealed up. Chances are their dream powers drew on the Seal of Binding itself in order to fuck with The Vessel, such as putting them into an eternal dream or making very obvious-looking astral projections, but it also leaves their bodies extremely vulnerable not just to physical, but dream attacks as well (As you clearly see with The Vessel absorbing the fuck out of them in their entirety)
It definitely helped with adding a few dream rituals here and there, though.

Wish I knew about all this before creating a DnD 5e campaign with Hollow Knight inspiration.

Don't suppose anybody has any Hollow Knight styled cicada artwork? I'm using them as a primary antagonist right now. They spend so much time as grubs and so little time as adults that they are my Orc-like threat. Savages that burst out in great swarms. Though they mostly are just trying to live their lives to the fullest before their deaths and are more interested in stealing people's booze and pillaging in a drunken frenzy than the generic bloodshed that Orcs like.

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>>67179642
An anon posted these a while back. Also, Cloth is canonically a cicada, so sometimes a bit of artistic license with a bug is fine.

>>67164643
Makes me wonder if human garbage would be seen as Eldritch artifacts in such a setting. Like the ma of the known world is simply the backyard of some household, and what they think are the barriers that mark the end of the Earth are just fence posts.

>>67174679
>And the other vessel that you get the Mothwing Cloak from got it's ass kicked by Hornet.
Is this confirmed or speculation?

I always just assumed he was another adventurer bug like Tiso, Cloth or Quirrel (kinda).

On a related note I would have liked it if there were more recurring NPC's or even just nameless adventuring bugs that would just pop up every now and then to patrol whatever area they spawned in. Shit like this is one of the reasons I love the idea of running or playing the HKRPG

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>>67182942
It is implied that Hornet was challenging adventuring vessels to see if any of them were worthy of finishing the job. Still there is no concise confirmation from this, neither in the game or from the devs, so it is just an assumption

>>67182693
Anon you're making this more into Buggy STALKER than Hollow Knight at that point
I wouldn't mind seeing that in terms of Wyrms, though

>>67033631
>ultimately got it
Did he tho?

>>67183641
>Buggy STALKER setting
Shit, let's make one such Hollow Stalker place. A no-man's-zone in between three bug kingdoms, wracked by strange magics. Adventurers and vessels flock to the place like moths to radiance, for there are rumors that in the center of the Zone there's a magic artifact that can grant your wishes...

>>67182427
> Dream nailing that for just one essence

>>67183968
Well he thought he did with the Hollow knight, but actually did with the Knight. Unless you fucked up as a player I suppose.
To be fair he was dead at that point. No idea what killed him though.

>>67029838
> A province built around a pound
> From mud shores to murky waters, from sludgy underground to high mangrove plants
> This is no glorious kingdom, this is bu(g)mpkin town at best, the wilderness at worst
> Beware the Leviathan