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>>66593561
What are Dwarven women like? How do they differ from their men?

What are the main dwarven food sources? Any particular crops or animals?

What are the different Dwarven races like? (We've had an entire thread about this one before.)

What is Dwarven religion like?

What are Dwarf-Elf relations like?

What are Dwarf-Kobold or Dwarf-Goblin relations like?

Why are Dwarf women by far the cutest?

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>>66593609
>What are Dwarven women like?

>>66593678
>Human-identical bimbo
>And not a rough-and-tumble shortstack
Imagine having taste this bad.

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Warhammer Dwarfs are pretty much the perfected form of the race. Only thing they need are women like in OP's picture.

That's the sfw variant btw

>>66593678
umgak

>>66593746
Thicc shortstacks can be really good as long as they're not straight-up midgets or something.

>>66593777
Correction, Bardin Gorrekson is the perfected form of the race.

As much as I love Warhammer dorfs, their grudge-autism can get in the way of my personal enjoyment. It does add to the sort of tragedy about them, so if you don't mind that then yeah, they're pretty fucken' good.

Oh I'm well aware. Good dorf-lewds are so rare to come by, it makes good pictures like it a veritable treasure.

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>>66593829
Look at >>66593609 pic related
Short, compact, but proportional. If you don't wanna smash either of those girls, I don't think you wanna smash a dwarf at all.

>>66593892
Yeah, I'd definitely like putting my penis into them dwarfs.

>>66593840
For the most part I enjoy their grudges; I only mind it when they're depicted as trying to settle them like retards such as cases where they'll walk into an elven forest or wander the depths of ruined holds with only a handful of companions.

The attitudes they have about in many voice lines from the Total War get the balance fairly right to me. I think it makes a lot more sense if the parts of Gotrek & Felix which suggest dwarf memories do not have emotions fade over time is true. If it is, then everytime they talk about how greenskins killed their family and took their homes or about the time a human cheated them out of pay for their hard work they feel exactly as furious as they were when it just happened.

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Dwarves feel a natural kinship with creatures like Badgers and moles.

A common family pet is a domesticated dire mole, and the pride of more then one mining clan or family is a ore-sniffer mole, trained and specially bred to be able to sniff out valuabld ores and gemstones through solid rock.

The Dwarven Badger-Cavalry is a force to be reckoned with, augmenting the usually slow-footed dwarven armies with a (relatively) fast and horrifyingly brutal force.

The Badger is a common icon of strength and ferocity for many Dwarves, and a slumbering badger is the symbol of the largest Dwarven druidic circle, the Druids of the Deep.

>>66593561
I've been obsessing over this idea that the 'dwarves' in my setting should be these Neanderthal-like dudes and/or humans with strong ties to an older ancestor thanks to interbreeding. I'm also reading Earth's Children atm so I keep making mental notes when they talk about Neanderthal physiology and their talents and weaknesses.

So here's what I like with muh Dwarves.
While Dwarves live inside large mountains, with each peak in a range having its own fortress, in the highlands around the range live the hobbits. Similar to Tolkien's hobbits, and like their Dwarven cousins, they live within their own hill homes.
They grow the food, brew the beer, and shepherd the animals on which a Dwarven society runs.
Together, both races are called the Halflings by Men and Elves.

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>>66593678
>What are Dwarven women like? How do they differ from their men?
They are like male dwarfs without big beards(those sideburns tho, pick related), but it's compensate by their patience towards their own kind.

>Main dwarven food source
Those foods that can go without rotting for a long time. The way to town is blocked by snow and ice during winter, so dwarfs stockpile food, the money come from the ambulant merchants that sell the crafts made during winter. The money gathered during spring and summer is used during fall to gather food and go back to the town before winter comes.

>What are the different Dwarven races like? Dunno, didn't think about other Dwarves in the region

>What is Dwarven religion like?
God of travelers, A good craft will always have a good trade, and a good trade is found by traveling. So pray they reach safely to the next town, because praying for a good trade is like insulting a dwarfs craft.

>Dwarven-Elf relations
They can't understand why we mine the mountain where we live and can't tolerate anything made of metal. Still, they are smart enough to always buy from us, you can't find items that last more than half a century anywhere else.

>Dwarf-vermin relations
They rob, they stink, they kill and worse of all they take our mines during winter. Worse from all is that they are surprised when we go and take them back.

>>66594295
Would a male Dwarf with sideburns only then be considered feminine then?

>>66594253
I like the idea of rolling dwarves and hobbits into one race or culture.

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More then one Dwarf hold has been lost to undeath, and Dwarves hold a deep loathing and fear of undeath.

Indeed, far too many times in history travelers in the great tunnels of the dwarven realms have arrived at what should be the open and bustling gates of a thriving hold, to find them barred and shut, gates bulging from within at some unknown pressure, or only finding a broken and bloodied barricade, warnings scrawled in pitch and gore as to what horrors occured within.

A Zombie horde underground is a terrible force, the rotting procession pushed at horrid speed through tight tunnels, allowing for little recourse or escape but to return to where you've already been in the hopes the swarm has not already filtered through to your escape tunnel and surrounded you. Mines filled with zombies can take decades to safely re-take.

Even fire, the dwarves common answer for hordes of foes in tight confines is of little comfort, taking far too long to kill the monsters, and leaving a debilitating miasma of burnt and rotting meat.

Indeed, the reason is more then ceremonial that Dwarves refuse to bury their dead in anything less then stone.

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What do y'all make of pic related?

>>66595886

The last elf is in containment.
The Prime Material is finally at peace.

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>>66595886
It tells me space Dwarves are dope.

>>66595886
Ancient dwarven techsmiths making the first elf.

>>66596085
Unfortunately Warhammer ditched that shit for the sake of something else. I really liked how they're just evolved humans that adapted to gravity-heavy mining colonies.

>>66596114
>gravity-heavy mining colonies.
That's the opposite of where you'd want to put mining colonies.

because I'm so LEET and UNUSUAL and everything has to be a NEW and UNIQUE idea that SUBVERTS DECONSTRUCTIONS, my dwarves are seven foot tall hairless niggers that are blacker than coal, blacker than black, blacker than midnight in a mineshaft balck. Also, they build up, they don't live underground. They build massive skyscrapers and shit.

Also, there's only a few dozen thousand of them in all of existence because they OOPS'd and so they don't really "adventure" much. Banned playable race, available for window dressing only. look but don't touch. No sex please, we're british.

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>>66593609
I use Discworld dwarfs, is that wrong?

>>66593678
>They look exactly like human women
What's the point, just make them a single gender race that comes from rocks or something and be done.

>>66597460
I'll admit right now, I know nothing about them.

>>66597512
But that doesn't let limp-dick weebs get off Anon.
No, dwarf womens are rowdy shortstacks or all dorfs arell 'male' rock people.

>>66595886
after years of searching the galaxy, the dwarven engineers finally found her. they had found the elf spy who had sapped their sentries. for generations their dwarves had to fight off the elves to protect their sentries. but now was not the time to remember, now was the time to kill.

>>66597659
>Spy who sapped their sentries
https://youtu.be/2HjLN1TA3bc

I'm sick of the dwarfs and elves hate each other meme

>>66597709
Then spitball an improvement.
Are the two races on good terms? Only certain kingdoms not having beef?

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Dwarfs are an ancient race, and if their sacred texts are to be believed they were the first made mortal race rather than the elves. Then again, both elven and human texts say the same about themselves. What makes them unique among the elder races is that their origin lies in the underworld; a vast and incomprehensibly deep network of spacious caverns and cramped tunnels that persist throughout the various continents, terminating at the shorelines. This environment houses many dangers ranging from local flora and fauna to the shifts of the Teutonic plates and magma, discounting the bouts of poisonous air.

Dwarf anatomy is made to permit survival within this life threatening ecosystem. Small stature allows for hiding from predators and inhabiting small areas, the immense strength and durability is required to fend off attackers and survive whatever may be thrown at them. A natural resistance to poisons and toxins comes from generations of living down there. Their bones and muscles are lightweight to allow for climbing and greater stamina while at the same time being dense enough to withstand damage. Dwarf society revolves around ensuring mutual survival in such a harsh environment, almost everything is communal, although a few exceptions such as spouses exist. Food is given according to need and rationed for the future. Houses are made to accommodate as many as possible while still being durable and comfortable. Ect. ect.

It is unknown to many of the number of potential races there were before the Cataclysm, but only the humans, elves, and dwarfs survived. To the elves, the dwarfs are seemingly intent on restoring the World That Was by teaching Mankind the old ways and must be stopped lest they bring forth another Apocalypse. To Humans, the dwarfs are a threat to their order and livelihoods with their technology and ideology. If asked why they go around teaching these things, a dwarf will always reply: "Because I can't stand seeing you living this way".

>>66597565
I started loving them when I read The Fifth Elephant, great shit. To quote:
>"female Discworld dwarfs are common, but are traditionally indistinguishable from males at all times. Dwarfs prefer not to spend much time on the subject; the dwarfish language has a gender neutral pronoun, usually rendered as "he" when speaking human languages. Dwarfish courtship is an incredibly tactful affair, primarily concerned with finding out which gender the other dwarf is"
I wonder if the meme came from here or if Pratchett already saw the idea somewhere else.

>>66593840
Bardin is like the shittiest warhammer dwarf in existence, but thanks for outing yourself as a redditor.

>>66593561
http://goblinpunch.blogspot.com/2016/01/a-few-more-words-on-dwarven-culture.html

>>66596247
no one gives a shit, its space fantasy

>>66598136
>You like something, you asshole
I'm sorry you're like this.

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>>66598136
>t. elgi

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One thing to note, dwarves are objectively one of the strongest race choices in 5E. Whether or not you care about the current edition of DnD the race has been given more significant strong mechanical features than any other. The only other possible contender are elves, but I would still say dwarves out weight them by a far margin. Despite this, dwarves are still among one of the least played races of the current edition.

Dwarves are just straight up not popular. I think the reason for that is simply because people think about too narrowly. People choose elves because they can appeal to their special snowflake sensibilities, or because they want to play ubermensch Asur. If you think about people who advocate only playing humans, the idea is that you can roleplay almost any concept you have as a human and it could be just as good if not better and "players are shit at roleplaying an alien mindset anyway". While I don't necessarily agree with that, I think you can attribute part of something like an elf's popularity with the fact that people can more easily attribute all these potential roles that an elf can occupy.

When most people think of dwarves they just think Gimli, and generally their mind doesn't wander too far from that. That's the problem. So many people can't attribute more than one archetype to them; some people love the archetype. But one archetype is just that: one. That automatically makes them niche and less appealing.

On the other hand that doesn't mean you have to go and say "my dwarves are actually 8 feet tall mole dog beavers who shit rocks" but what it does mean is that when you think of dwarves you have to think of more than just mining, booze and mountains. Society is made up of so much more than that. What are the farmers like? What celebrations do they hold? How is law and order enforced? etc.

>>66598171
>makes statement as if it was objective
>is called wrong
>WAAAH STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE
yeah okay.

>>66598302
I knew a girl from Spain who exclusibly played dwarves. She was pretty cool.

>>66598302
What makes them good mechanically? resistance to poison and a +2 to con are not good.

>>66593678
Good mango imo

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>>66598330
>Immediate Strawmanning.
You have discredited yourself.

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>>66597709
Then defy it.
>>66597717
Based

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>>66597460
You are never wrong to reference Discworld.
Also, best dwarf coming through.

>>66598682
Why didn't Carrot grow a beard?

>>66594101
>Badger cavalry
Jesus...

>>66595900
Nice

>>66598124
>Dwarfish courtship is an incredibly tactful affair, primarily concerned with finding out which gender the other dwarf is"
Public bath anyone?

Alternatively
>"Man I sure hate it when I have penis related inconveniences, you know what I am talking about? You know, having a penis?"

>>66598869
>Local farmer revolutionizes dwarven courtship

>>66598896
>Local bartender receives vast sums of dwarven gold after hosting "dwarven ladies only" nights

>>66598514
First of all you need to consider them relative to the other races. Many don't actually get that much. Elves are good because they get weapon training and a cantrip which is generally good from the perspective of any class.

Dwarves get resilience and combat training, not that great but reasonable and combined with what subclasses bring to the table is why dwarves are the strongest race in 5E:

Hill dwarves give an extra hit point every time you gain a level. Normally to gain more health per level you need an additional +1 modifier, which would need 2 extra points in CON. That means Dwarven Toughness is like an implicit increase in your constitution by two points. Considering the only thing which constitution is mainly used for is constitution saving throws that is huge. So by choosing hill dwarves its almost like getting a +4 to your CON.

Mountain Dwarves get a +2 to strength compared to the usual +1 you would get for a subrace, and their light/medium armor training actually gives them the flexibility to be used in more than just a fighter. In fact, you are under utilizing them by playing mountain dwarves as fighters or barbarians since those classes get those proficiencies for free.

>>66599079
Ok this was meant reply to >>66598506

>>66595886
GW needs to bring back squats.

>>66598302
This is a well-written post and the questions are absolutely worth exploring.

But I do have to say I feel the same way about Elves. I find Elves to be very boring, I mean, what the the fuck do they do all day? Be important because Elves? Dick around in the forest?

At least Dwarves, even in the confines of that one archetype you mentioned, have miners, smiths, kings, expeditions, countless dwarven holds, and a proud warrior tradition.

And in my personal tastes, I find dwarves to be fantastically interesting because I love that core concept of 'underground shorties who are the toughest motherfuckers around, ready to throw down or party hard.' I've never once understood the idea that 'Dwarves are boring'

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I really like the aesthetic that 4e gave dwarves. Mainly, you know, the huge jugs.

>>66600269
It's a similar aesthetic to the dwarves from dungeon meshi
>>66593609

I would like to submit a question for debate.

Not!Warforged being created by the dwarves as vessels for those too old, or broken by war, to keep living on; but with bodies that can be tailored for specific purposes. Not unlike Dreadnaughts from 40k, but with less madness and eternal agony. Would this be worth exploring, or adding to a setting?

>>66600693
If Dwarves have that level of tech in a setting for that, I can see them doing it for Dwarves who explicitly give the artificers permission for this process, but as more of a rarity.

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An Anon asked last thread, and it's worth asking again.

What foodstuffs exist down there, beneath the earth for dwarves to take advantage of? Besides mushrooms of course.

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Hope this thread lives until morning!

>>66599588
They're back since 6th Edition. First they were mentioned back then, now in 8th ED they have one model for the new Necromunda. Special Character Grendl Grendlsen The Squat Bounty Hunter. But as a playable faction in mainline 40K? Dunno, time will tell.

>>66596085
deep rock galactic is great

>>66601419
Newts.
Worms
Burrowing mammals
Cavern insects
Blind(optional) cave fish
Various tubers. Seriously, all you need is light and you can grow taters unnaground easy

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>>66601419
Honestly there just needs to be more info and descriptions of Dwarven holds.

I wouldn't be surprised if natural caves and underground lakes and rivers made prime locations for dorfs to settle, it wouldn't be too hard to set up some nets in the river, some cozy rooms carved into the walls near the rivers for the fishermen to live in and hang out in between checking the nets. Spider farms would probably be impossible given how territorial and cannibalistic spiders are, but perhaps a network of caves would intentionally be spider-infested and every few months they would send dwarves in to steal an egg-sac and all the silk they can. Giant bat farms for their lightweight but durable leather, useful guano, and meat. Or maybe for pets, the dorf equivalent of a parrot or pet bird, hell a mail-system using giant bats is a fun idea!

A dwarven garden is probably a tangled mess of edible moss, molds, tubers and dangling roots from plants above. Crops on all surfaces, making full use of the 3d space. Any livestock would be valued as much for their manure as their meat, hide, wool or other valuable traits to use as fertilizer.

And even though mushrooms are obvious and boring, Dorfs would be experts in them, using them medicinally, recreationally, for booze and potions, perhaps even for decoration even!

But one question remains even after all this conceptualizing, why do dwarves live underground anyways? What drives them down there?

>>66593609
>What are Dwarven women like? How do they differ from their men?
As short or maybe shorter than their men, they have sideburns but not beards like the menfolk, softer looking but still engage in the same professions as the men, friendly and will engage in a bit of banter when relaxed.

>What are the main dwarven food sources? Any particular crops or animals?
Fungus, chickens, big lizards, various types of alcohol, they are master bakers and pastry chefs

>What are the different Dwarven races like?
There is as many Dwarven races as there are human races here and now, the customary thing to do when one Dwarf race meets another for the first time is to trade alcohol and compare/get pissed.

>What is Dwarven religion like?
There is very little similarities of religion between the Dwarven ethnic groups, but dwarves seem too relaxed for inter-ethnic religious strife let alone the regular kind.

What are Dwarf-Elf relations like?
Dwarves who see elves for the first time are usually shocked by their height, neither group has a strong opinion on the other but will help each other if able.

What are Dwarf-Orc relations like?
Depends on the specific race of Orc, most are treated with the customary respect they deserve, others get interrogated.

Why are Dwarf women by far the cutest?
Because they are short and naturally gregarious.

>>66602784
Now that I think about it, mushrooms and fungus are very interesting, so leaning into some fungal-theming for some Dwarven craft is kinda cool. Why not have captured spores be a valuable resource? A toxic spore trap, or using glowing spore-lanterns for lighting or making gorgeous jewelry that sparkles with natural light?

Alas, Dwarven mushroom farms are dangerous things, the spore-choked air can be hazardous, and less savory fungus can sneak into the damp caves, or attract odd and dangerous creatures to lurk in the dim halls of the farm. Mimic-like shroom-crawlers that wait for prey in the guise of an edible mushroom, or the spores infested an undead, leading to a zombie or skeleton that leaves behind choking, poisonous spores as they shamble about.

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Stay safe tonight thread.

Have a friendly cave creature to guide you through the night.

>>66602784
I suppose I'll give an example from my current DnD setting. Dwarves were originally immortal creative spirits, but with the advent of the sun which degrades their health they are no longer immortal. So two things, the world was originally dark so many dwarves stay underground because that was easier for them. The other is that they live longer underground. Dwarves which live their entire lives on the surface have shorter lifespans.

I think the main thing is to make a reason which is an influencing force in why some things are so prevalent, but also not completely limiting so that you can extrapolate off the gaps.

>>66598302
I'm okay with Dwarfs looking shallow on the surface to new people. Keeps it free for me to use all the time.

>>66598136
>Look guys, I'm angry just like the rest of you guys on 4chan! xD

>>66602661
Aren't they giving Necrofags another Squat character, seeing as Grendl was so widely hyped?

>>66593561
Post the titty version

>>66604467
Dunno. All I want is an army of angry midgets with exo-armors and literal rape-trains to be a thing again. Not to mention artillery that would make the Guard look like they lacked something.

>>66605352
I mean, they already are lacking something.
Something to replace their fuck ugly old sculpts, for one thing

>>66595886
I love how half the responses to this post are dorfwankers utterly seething over elves lel

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>Last of all the eastern force to stand firm were the Dwarves of Belegost, and thus they won renown. For the Naugrim withstood fire more hardily than either Elves or Men, and it was their custom moreover to wear great masks in battle hideous to look upon; and those stood them in good stead against the dragons. And but for them Glaurung and his brood would have withered all that was left of the Noldor. But the Naugrim made a circle about him when he assailed them, and even his mighty armour was not full proof against the blows of their great axes; and when in his rage Glaurung turned and struck down Azaghal, Lord of Belegost, and crawled over him, with his last stroke Azaghal drove a knife into his belly, and so wounded him that he fled the field, and the beasts of Angband in dismay followed after him. Then the Dwarves raised up the body of Azaghal and bore it away; and with slow steps they walked behind singing a dirge in deep voices, as it were a funeral pomp in their country, and gave no heed more to their foes; and none dared to stay them.

>>66605781
Grendl seems fine. If all new sculpts were made in the same style as his, then it would be sweet.

>>66594135
I've actually done something like this with the Dwarves in my setting. They're descendents of neanderthal x Homo Sapiens interbreeding, then trapped by the Fae in a realm designed to kill them.

They survived with two of their number ascending to Godhood to try and keep the realm from collapsing. When they failed, they forcefully merged their realm onto a planet that would support the Dwarves and the creatures therein and languished. While they're still alive, the two of them are being nursed by their many children to strength again and the Dwarves are looking at the skies with a newfound fear. They know their relatives are out there, but will they ever find them? The Dwarves hate to admit it but they miss Humans.

>>66595886
I can't believe you've done this. What have you done to me. I need more now.

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>>66611633
I'm sorry Anon, spacedorfs are a rarity.

>>66597157
Oh yes

>>66593609
i keep seeing this image everywhere anon, where is it from?

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>>66616272
An artbook containing sketches of characters from the Manga 'Dungeon Meshi', a /tg/ favorite.

>>66593746
Humans rarely have curves like that

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>>66611633
Are modern dwarves tolerable?

>>66602784
I love all of this and am stealing it

>>66616346
I prefer late-19th/early-20th century dorfs but they're okay I guess

What does the thread think about Cave-Sheep and Cave-Goats who live far underground?

I prefer dwarves that aren't 100% subterranean, they just build their fortresses in mountainsides, but still have farm steads and pastoral elements, maybe some kind of alpine style farming or even Incan terraced farms. More like hill dwarves I suppose. Maybe the dwarven warrior/noble caste is more the 'stone and iron' thing while the peasants are 'dirt and soil' based.

>>66597709
>>66597717
Some dwarf groups get along while others don't.

>Due to their scisism with the High Elves, the wood elves have always maintained poor relations with them.
>Wood elves run right along side the dwarven kingdoms.
>High Elves and Dwarves are allies against wood elves.

>>66618008
I could see the opposite being workable. Wood elves and dwarves make good neighbours. The wood elves purchase steel weaponry and armour from the dwarves in exchange for hides and meat, where as high elves and dwarves have cultural rivalries due to both being advanced cultures with competitive interests. Wood Elves being semi-nomadic and non-expansionist are given the run of the surface of the hills and mountains and form seasonal connections with different dwarf holdings. Wood elves and dwarves both being mostly insular cultures who aren't concerned with meddling in the affairs of others and mostly just want to be left alone end up get along relatively well as a result. High Elves on the other hand have to stick their noises into everyone's business.

I always found it odd in certain fiction that Dorfs are great craftsmen but the most valuable/important artifacts were all Elven craft.

Nah. Elves should have the best magic artifacts, and dorfs the best overall equipment.

Would it be too extreme to have Dwarves be herbivores?

>>66618088
no, do what you want

>>66618074
>Seasonal connections
>Cue the Valley-Dwarves of Twinhold coming down to the valley between their two mountain keeps to prepare for the spring festival, welcoming their Wood-Elf allies back to the forest realms after their long winter on the steppes with food, drink, and trade
>Cue youngsters from both races excited to once again see 'those tall and skinny folk' or those 'short and excitable people'

>>66618154
Wood elf bands bring news of the wider world to the dwarven elders, the movement of orcish bands, monster sightings and the like.

>>66618282
Perfect reason for a dwarf’s army to have scouts as dwarves are as sneaky as a rock slide.

>>66618834
Legolas and Gimli prove elves and dwarves make great friends, and what kind of elf was Legolas? A wood elf. Straight fact.

>>66593609
>Dwarven women
I'm flip-flopping between just stealing Gorons (in which case there are none) or doing a thing where the mainstream ideal of the Dwarven woman is a hypercompetent housewife/accountant/administrator combo. They would also tend to have ridiculous updos in parallel with the men's beards. Then there's the whole "axe-crone" idea I had, but honestly that one would probably offend literally everyone, of all political stances.

>>66618887
An alliance of Wood elves and Dwarves would be dope. Of course you have to answer the obvious reasons for them to have beef, that being industry vs. nature.

>>66618925
Don’t see how the dwarves hurt the forest. They’re digging underground and sticking to mountains where there’s barely any life to begin with.

Humans just love to cut down trees to make room and houses.

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>>66599079
I forget are Duergar supposed to be base playable in 5e? If so are they any good?

>>66600269
They already had pretty huge jugs in WoW. (Though they shrank them a bit in Warlords)

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>>66618918
do tell

>>66618925
>that being industry vs. nature
Just don't have dwarves be thoughtless, rabid industrialists. Dwarves are craftsmen, what they build they build with care and attention. They aren't industrialists or consumerists churning out a massive quantity of goods. Dwarven-make is high quality because they aren't wasting resources on churning out a lot of low quality mediocre garbage (that's what Tolkien orcs do). Being long lived and remaining mostly in the same area for millennia at a time means they would be very careful about resources. The last thing a dwarf should be is a short-sighted.

>>66618955
Dorfs would still need trees, wouldn't they? That's a point of tension right there.

>>66618981
They're a subrace in tome of foes. They get to cast enlarge on themselves when they're level 3 and invisibility at level 5. once per long rest

>>66619013
The wood elves and dwarves have a treaty over forestry. Maybe that's another reason dwarves supply wood elves with steel weapons and armour, as part of that exchange. 'You can take x amount from this region in this part of the year in exchange for giving us y thing.' Because wood elves are less likely to use hard currency than other societies, a barter system is more likely to develop.

>>66619062
and if we're going with the idea that dwarves have a strict code of honour, they're highly unlikely to violate a trade deal without good cause.

>>66618981
What this anon says >>66619054
Compared to the other dwarves they aren't that great. They are fairly average, comparable to the quirks of a gnome subrace or something like that.

>>66619054
>>66619138
That's all they get? No passives or anything below level 3?

>>66618998
Well, the idea was that you don't see warrior women in mainstream Dorf society. Some hard-pressed holds might start training ALL of their civvies in the event that a big siege comes, but in general ladies stay off the battlefield.

The axe-crones, on the other hand, tend to come from one of two places: those who are no longer wives, and those who can never be wives. Dwarven widows are often consumed by an unstoppable desire for vengeance on whoever killed their husbands. In response, they let their hair down, take up the nearest weapon, sometimes go topless, and leave the hold to go kill the thing. They tend to die of exhaustion or exposure upon succeeding. The same thing usually happens if a Dwarven girl finds herself made "unfit for marriage," so to speak. If one survives long enough after the thing that did her dirty is kaput, she'll realize she can't go back home (or remember which direction it's in) and has likely been declared dead anyway. That would make anyone a little unstable, so she usually ends up falling back into an unthinking rage periodically. Keeping one in your party is a very high-risk situation.

>>66619191
Should've expanded on the other anon, was just giving my evaluation. Overall they get:

+1 STR
Superior Darkvision
Undercommon
Advantage on saving throws against charmed/paralyzed
Spells previously mentioned
Sunlight Sensitivity

>>66619259
Not TOO bad.

>>66619199
So slayer-chicks?

>>66619369
Less "actively trying to die" and more "declared dead and losing more sanity by the day" but basically. The folks at my table are a lot more sensitive to these kinds of things than /tg/ is, which is the only reason I'm not sure about implementing this.

>>66619398
Gendered things like this can be very difficult to do, and anything that implies rape doubles down on this.

You can keep some of the dirty details, but making it more of a dorf-in-general thing (dorfs losing their shit over tragedy in love) can probably cushion some of those worries you have.

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It seems like its such a common trope that dwarves don't do magic. But why is that? Surely dwarves should be some of the most skilled casters and artificers, with knowledge and techniques passed down through the generations. And on that in general, what kind of aesthetic could dwarven magic have, apart from the usual runes and glyphs.

>>66620524
Magic is oddly enigmatic, and *very* setting dependent. But figuring out dorf magic would be cool!

>>66620524
Its because there was no Dwarven wizards in Tolkien. Most people forget that wasn't many wizards at all, but that didn't stop them.

I went kinda weird with my Dwarves' magic use, since they rely heavily on sea travel, most Dwarf mages specialize in divination and storm magics, working as navigators for ships.

Alright if we're going to talk dorf magic, let's nail things down.

Let's do some generic rules, keep things simple and easy to adapt if anyone wants to take things for their own setting.

Magic is a gift only a rare few people recieve, and without early detection it can be missed entirely throughout someones life or be exceedingly wild and generous.

Arcane magic, which is what that gift refers to is different then Holy Magic (Communing with a Higher power and using what abilities it grants to you in pursuit of its goals) and Druidic Magic (Becoming a living conduit for the natural breath, flow, and power of the world. To become a force of nature.) The arcane is a 6th sense, a reality beneath our own that some can tap into. Outlook, race, and mental condition all influence ones perception of this plane, and therefor their interactions with it.
Unlike churches and druidic circles, Arcane magic and the groups practicing it are not governed by a guiding morality, meaning each group can be wildly different from the next. Moral or amoral, reclusive or social.

So with that in mind, how do the dutiful, community-minded, and proud Dwarves interact with the Arcane?

>>66593777
>spoiler
got a sauce for that?

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>>66620524
>>66621251
Tolkien and Warhammer I'd say. In Tolkien's work, only the Wizards and Elves perform any magic, and while the Wizards aren't human, they do appear as such. Then Warhammer when full on with the technology over science angle for Dwarfs, and it's more or less stuck.

Personally, I think magic works great with Dwarves, and Dark Iron are probably my favourite version of Dwarves out there.

>>66594422
>Would a male Dwarf with sideburns only then be considered feminine then?
As much as a human man with long hair and a shaven face does in our society. Its only hair after all.

>>66622086
>Thaurissan
Maybe dwarven magic would be based around great beasts and beings? Like becoming their champions and channeling their power? Great Dragons or beasts under the earth?

>>66619199
>>66619398
I quite like this idea, a nice blend of WHFB Troll Slayers and Mourning Wolves from Mutant Chronicles' Imperial Wolfbanes faction. I'd say run with it, and if your table-mates really find it distressing, well we all have to toughen up sometime.

Stay safe tonight dorfthread.

>>66622370
Sounds good, although I’ve always like dragons as dwarves ancient foe

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>>66597709
>>66598539
>if I subvert it its new and unqiue

No, it really isnt. Books have been doing that for years, now fuck of you illiterate underage philistines.

>>66622938
Nobody said it was new and unique, just that they didn't like it, you twat.

>>66621378
Through what they are known for - crafting. Dwarves rarely cast spells, even if they know them, they prefer to use tools and artefacts. There are basically no dwarven mages and other races point to this fact a lot, why dwarves just don't care. Because they have blacksmiths, jewellers and so on, and so on. Any, absolutely any, crafting profession in dwarven culture assumes that when you are reaching its heights you should be able to craft magical items. Artefacts that are passed through generations are still rare but limited use items are an everyday thing in dwarven life that you can buy in any large enough settlement.

>>66598700
Hygiene probably.

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>>66623182
Oh fuck off you disingenuous niggerfaggot, you know this is what they meant because we are in CURRENT YEAR where everything new is automatically better than anything old because OMG IT SUBVERTED MY EXPECTATIONS.

>>66624281
Go back on your meds.

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>>66625487
not an argument, trannyfag

>>66626154
Go back on your meds.

>>66626179
not an argument tho

>>66626748
Go back on your meds. Your family misses you.

>>66626800
still not an argument. Also, you will never pass as a woman.

>>66598506
You'd be surprised how useful resistance to poison can be. Especially at low levels when that Con boost hasn't yet kicked in and you're facing monstrous spiders and things, but really poison is common at all levels, from many monsters but also traps and "unusual substances to be analyzed." Especially since many monster's attacks offer a save to reduce poison damage, so you often take only 1/4 of the damage you would have. I'm running a game with a Dwarf Barbarian and his resistance has literally saved his life when he took like 9 damage when the rest of the party would have taken 30-something from a Phase Spider.

>>66626800
>>66626994
Get a room, you two.

>>66611584
Interesting, but in my case I have to make it more grounded in a sense because I'm trying to go for a S&S setting. One idea I'm toying with is that the pool of Neanderthals on this planet was larger compared to ours and when the more dominant and still more populous Homo sapiens caused most of them to drift away into a different part of the world where they were able to keep their numbers up relatively easily as well as interbreeding with the humans living in the area. I'm thinking that maybe from these humans they also learned how to grow shit and they became the first race to learn how to cultivate before the humans did, but it's a work in progress atm.

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>>66619259
>Sunlight Sensitivity
Fuck that noise. unless you're running all Save or Suck casting. And you're GM keeps your basement dwelling assess in a dungeon or in the shade the whole game.

>>66627068
Samefagging also isnt an argument

>>66620524
Extremely technical and geometric, heavy emphasis on overlayed shapes and built places of power. A pyramid would be magic in dwarf culture just by the precision of it's positioning and shape.

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>>66602784
I pictured them living inside of mountains due to them originating in a harsh, cold climate with so little building material and shelter that expanding natural out croppings/caves was preferable. Eventually that led to just tunneling into mountains, and continuing to do so despite knowing about areas with more resources becoming a cultural thing.

I also imagine dwarf trade with humans being primarily about food and other things they don't have much of. Their legendary ability to outlast siegers of their holds would likely be due to their great food storage vaults and superior preservation (and brewing) techniques. Their own food would be less common and mixed in with human crops for meals, but the most prized cuisine would be made entirely with dwarfen crops such as their alcohol.

>>66619398
>>66619433
How about dwarven women who are barren instead of raped?

>>66593561
Bump for Dwarves

>>66616346
Oh yes. Very tolerable.

>>66627574
I like it!

>>66620524
Like this anon >>66627937 said, very geometric, accurate, and shape based. I personally imagine Dwarven casters summoning the kind of circles you'd see in alchemical magics or the rings you see in some settings around themselves with sharp, geometric shapes and accurate angles being part of the casting geometry and what channels the magic into being. Less wild gout of flame, more like laser of flaming energy or sun beams.

>>66629168
This arguably works better, actually. Hadn't thought of that, thanks anon.

>>66630422
>A human wizard casts fireball, it burns bright and clean, it travels in a lazy arc and explodes with enough force to send anyone not immediately scorched flying off

>An Elven wizard casts fireball, a beautiful burning blue, it travels in an erratic but quick pattern, not unlike a hummingbird, before striking home and going off like a starburst, the flame doing its damage before fading into nothingness

>An orc wizard casts fireball, a green and black greasefire that explodes with a sound akin to snapping jaws and bestial howling as the sparks actively seek more to burn and consume

>A dwarf wizard casts fireball, he is a precision-cut prism for mana to course through. The spell cuts through the air, leaving only a burning streak of light for a moment before a thermite-sparking flame reduces the target to open air within seconds

>>66630916
That is just about fuckin' perfect and I love you for it.

>>66630378
Also, I'm wondering if I can rationalize that the reason why they're more naturally inclined to be knowledgeable about their past and their historical figures is thanks to their large cranial capacity and the fact that their culture has a lot to do with preserving shit like that through rituals and storytelling.

>>66598191
She accidentally loaded the Dwarf-seeking arrows

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>>66619259
>>66627776
How bad a downside is it in 5e? I know it really blew in older editions.

>>66630422
>>66630916
My dwarf wizard actually had a custom fireball spell where he added copper oxide to the guano. Turned the fireball green and if it struck exposed skin it'd stick like napalm. He also had a couple other custom applications of spells, mostly chemistry-based.

>>66633454
>>66618981
I recognise the artist, but not the art. Did Mark start doing exclusives or something?

>>66633683
Nah? These have been up on HF for ages.

http://www.hentai-foundry.com/pictures/user/markydaysaid/610955/Dwarven-Hospitality https://www.hentai-foundry.com/pictures/user/markydaysaid/657942/BIGGER www.hentai-foundry.com/pictures/user/markydaysaid/448065/Kam-and-Dwarves
And something with a similar theme by a different artist.
www.hentai-foundry.com/pictures/user/Katiethemoo/680161/Kams-Dwarven-Spear-Polishers

>>66627862
Go back on your meds.

>>66598700
Some humans can't. Joe smith for example.

>>66617912
What, like rothe?

>>66634045
The rothe always felt kinda weird, though. Having a straight-up grazing animal in a place that's essentially a system of caves feels kinda weird due to how sparse vegetation would be naturally.

>>66593561
those are some massive mammaries

>>66635719
Great big dark iron pillahs,

I know fluff is cheap but I'll share some of the details of the dwarves from my homebrew, nothing extremely original

In my world dwarves come from the earth itself, so different races of dwarves are based on the type of mineral or stone they came from and they have no true gender, this makes them more golem-like and magical in nature

A "fresh" dwarf has soft flesh and as they age they slowly turn back to stone, this means a dwarf who is old as fuck moves slow like an ent from tolkien, but is also very hard to kill similar to a stone golem

I've also introduced a rare mineral that many dwarves seek, when a dwarf consumes this mineral they re-soften their flesh, essentially extending their lifespan

I recently just finished introducing my players to the concept of a giant underground dwarven fortress that is literally on rails, the dwarves greedily strip huge underground areas of all their valuable resources, the surface races are motivated to hunt and destroy these fortresses, as in the process of stripping large undergound areas, all plant life on the surface dies in the process

>>66595886
Is that Snow White?

>>66638071
Yes actually, and I really didn't expect anyone to get that when I posted it.

What tipped you off?

>>66638153
Girl with white skin and black hair, red orb near her hand, and there are seven dwarves in the picture (I assume the figure in the foreground is the seventh).

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>>66619369
I got one here.

>>66607377
Absolutely fucking based. Noldor can'ty even fucking compete.

What is dorf religion like?
Any important holidays, taboos, or rituals?

>>66617912
So as this anon said >>66634108 it is pretty weird to have pasture animals underground in general. Whatever they are, they would have to be introduced and then somehow evolve over time to survive. Maybe dwarves brought them underground and they subsisted on cave moss and mushrooms in a domestic environment for a very long time. A few get lost and go wild and then you might get some blind cave goats scraping off moss. Could be a cool idea.

>>66642992
Sneaking along in a cave, flashing your lantern down a side passage only to come face-to-face with some milky-eyed, mutant cave goat sounds like one hell of a jumpscare

>>66644869
They'd probably have to be kinda scrawny and small due to sparsity in shit to eat, though.

>>66645062
Oh I'm not saying they'd be dangerous, just that they'd probably look a bit freaky and running into one in the dark would be a tad freaky.

>>66645165
No I know, I'm just saying.

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Dwarven ambassador problems

>>66649290
Why not polygamy?

>>66649290
may I have uncropped version, please?

>>66649369
I don't know if that even exists, I found said pic like that originally.

>>66651515
yeah, that seems to be a full pic, rest of his stuff is cute though
https://twitter.com/XiangWong

>>66607377
Based Silmarilion

Wish that Tolkien had given the dwarves more characterization, they're existing bits of lore make me rock solid

>>66633891
Just report him. Replies just make trolls worse.

>>66653275
The explanation of why they don't trust the forests is a very, very cool one.

>>66595886
Is that Melfina?

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Dwarf Technology Is usually depicted as more advanced than their neighbors. If you do this, do you offer an explaination why?

>>66653738
Environmental pressures encouraged them to make strongholds to deal with the mass of threats, and once they'd done so, they were able to slowly improve until they had an excess of resources. Once that happened, they were able to focus on more than basic survival, and since their culture was based around order, pragmatism, and protection, they basically formed the fantasy equivalent of a military industrial complex.

>>66654490
>Different Dwarven strongholds are experts in a given field of science or magic because of different pressures
>If an army from each different hold was recruited into a single army representing the full course of the Dwarven race, it would be the most advanced and flexible army on the face of the earth

>>66653738
They're very industrious and innovative in terms of their society's specific goals (e.g. getting better at warfare and manufacturing). So a bit like 20th century Germany, except that dwarfs are all Jewish.

>>66593561
My dwarves are all Hard Gay like the Greeks and believe their women are subhuman (subdwarven?) overgrown children in terms of emotional development and are only good for making more babies. True love can only be found between two males. When a marriage is arranged, the woman is forced to spend a year growing out her beard so she looks like a male, so as to make the groom more comfortable on their wedding night, and even then it is socially acceptable for him to continue fraternizing with male partners after being married (doing so with another woman is called "bloodline treachery" though and will get you grudge'd).

You'd think this would make them the butt of a lot of gay jokes, but they have the strength of a roided up chimpanzee so most keep their mouths shut.

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>>66633454
Roll 2d20, pick the lowest if:
A) You are in sunlight or B) your target is in direct sunlight.
5e has a lot of above ground adventures, and unless your party are a bunch of night owls? Better to Pick the Half-Drow subrace for Half-elf.
Like the Half-Orc, it's better in every way. You lose some 1/rest spells that... aren't really useful and you'll forget you had in exchange for not sucking at life.

>>66655796
Jesus, that's fucking awful. Just give them goggles or take it away in general.

Is Enlarge really that mediocre?

>>66654690
>Gay dwarves

The elf fears the BDC

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>>66655909
Actually, elven males don't interest them at all except for the really perverted. Far too weak, effete, and worst of all, womanly. The Dwarven ideal is masculine, powerful, and with a big, thick, manly beard that could drag down onto the floor, such is its length. Flamboyant attitudes don't fly either. Any sort of thing that could be considered feminine is viewed with disdain.

>>66655811
for the half Drow you lose:
Dancing lights (cantrip)
Faerie Fire(lv.3)
Darkness(lv.5)
and drop from 120ft darkvision to 60ft darkvision
Net win imho.
Unless you can convince the DM to let you play a Surface Drow of Elistraee, for 60ft darkvision, and dropping light sensitivity.
But given I've yet to find a DM who will even allow the slightest bit of creativity or isn't an utterly retarded autist about 'muh gaembook are puhrfect!' (apparently PHB Rangers are 'just fine.' and anything non PHB/Splat is homebrew, UA-Ranger is never allowed. It's op and broken etc.)

Enlarge gives you 1d4 more damage, advantage on strength checks and saving throws. which is pretty nice. No 10ft reach tho in 5e.

>>66655943
>>66655811
I realize I am talking in two seperate threads and crossed the streams.

Ignore ALL of that shit above.
(though, honestly, I'd prefer the half drow over the dwarf anyday)

The sunlight sensitivity is your biggest problem at all times. My argument about autistic GM's stands however in that department.

>>66655943
>>66656005
Damn, not giving you reach or a full uptier in damage does suck pretty hard compared to before.

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>>66598191
Angry hairy manlets make it a lot more fun playing an elf.

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>>66656145
Invisibility is niche useful - once you hit lv3. It's a one off you _might_ be able to use to pull off a OneshotNuketheBossNow move once you hit 5th level with it and can pull the fighter 2attack/actionsurge/2attack - Depending on the build you should be able to strip out a single target on the spot.best done if you enlarge, then pop invisibility for the extra 4d4.

I may be wrong, but i think you can combo the 1d4 alongside a paladins smite, so 2 attacks with a bonus 2d4 at 5th level, plus some smite can drop a nice stack of dice.

Or get you through that room to begin some shenanigans or thrifty Indoor bullshit once a session.

>>66656145
>>66656263
Wait, it's also one round only?

>>66598191
He just falls over like a sad sack of lumpy potatoes.

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>>66656158

>The Dwarves have built countless drilling machines underneath the earth over the ages
>Some carved small passageways
>Others bored a path big enough for armies to march through
>And between all points of interest in their realms of stone, great, carved passages run like the very veins of civilization.
>Hundreds of caves, deposits of ore, lakes and rivers were exposed by their drilling.
>Dwarves have lived their entire lives in these great tunnels, mining, fishing, farming and thriving all without seeing a proper keep or the surface
>Peddling their wares to the keepdwarves as they travel throughout the realm.

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>>66656652
Based umgi

What are some proper mounts for dwarves?

There's the iconic rams, but do they even make sense?

>>66657115
badgers, dogs, fantastical creatures that you can spawn from your imagination.

Stay safe tonight thread.

>>66657115
Giant eagles.

>>66657115
If your Dwarves live in and among mountains then giant mountain goats make sense given that they could climb the steep mountain paths and what not that surround your typical dwarven mountain fortress. Anything that could reliably scale a mountain would make a good dwarven mount. Bears are surprisingly good climbers, and are just as surly and hairy as dwarves so they'd fit as mounts. Giant spiders would work, but are generally associated with drow. Big horned sheep and ibexes could be used interchangeably with giant mountain goats. Smaller versions of each animal could be used as livestock

I've also seen giant boars used, but I don't really get those since I always associated them with orcs

Giant tunneling creatures also make sense, like >>66657263 said giant badgers, but also giant moles, giant worms, maybe bulettes if you're playing D&D

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>>66657017
That shit gets me every time I read it.

>>66657115
I doubt they'd need mounts if they lived in mountain halls and caves. Especially if they had some transportation system like minecart trains or something.

>>66656263
No it lasts an hour, but invisibility in 5e vanishes the moment you attack or cast a spell. You can open doors, check for traps, do backflips through the kings court etc. so long as you don't attack or cast a spell you got an hour to screw around.

You do get advantage on attack rolls - atleast thats how I interpret it since by all means it's Semi-perfect stealth. Having a dude jump out of literal nowhere and then shank you in the guts should by all means atleast give you advantage.

>>66604467
Yeah, but he's not as cool

>>66593609
>What are Dwarven women like?
WoW style, that is to say short, rotund and not bearded

>>66593609
>What is Dwarven religion like?
Pseudo Judaic, they are the chosen of the earth but have been punished for past transgressions with misfortune and the destruction of their former empire

>>66593609
>What are Dwarf-Elf relations like?
Absolutely abysmal, they are the people with the most reason to hate the elves, even moreso than the humans.

>>66593609
>What are Dwarf-Kobold or Dwarf-Goblin relations like?
The Kobolds/Scaled ones/Lizardmen (name undecided) were the ancient foes of the Dwarves, their demon worshipping hordes defeated by the might of the ancient dwarven empire

Goblins are a blight upon any mine or distant settlement that approaches their subterranean lairs, but are largely just pests

>>66593609
>Why are Dwarf women by far the cutest?
They arent

>>66593561
Holy shit the size of those fucking HONKERS

Heres a question I have for you, what do your dwarves mean? They arent just some random fantasy race right? Theres something they represent right? So what is it? What is their essence.

>>66659510
Capitalism. They are pretty much stubborn, honorbound Ferengi.

>>66602784
>tubers and dangling roots from plants above

This is great! It answers the question of how the food chain starts for a cavern farm. After millennia of selective planting, there could be different flavors and textures.

>>66659589
>honorbound
this is incompatible with capitalism

Helga by personalami

>>66653671
>what is it?

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Dwarven Battle Smith Artificer or Stone Sorcerer, Dwarf bros?

>>66660964
Capitalism is based on people fulfilling contracts, and honor is just the fulfilment of unspoken contracts.

Depending on the actual values of the honor system they could well be perfect for each other.

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How disruptive or silly is it to have Dorfs be Sheep-like people?

It's an issue of aesthetics alone but I'll be damned if I don't like it.

>>66665910
I don't care for blatantly anthropomorphized animal people but you do you

>>66665910
If we're talking full "sheepiness," I think that they would work in a light-hearted, whimsical setting. If we're just talking about ram's horns, I think they can work in a wider ranger of settings.

>>66670043
>>66665910
Wouldn’t horns just get in the way down underground?

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>>66617962
I agree. I usually have dwarves living in mountain valleys, with only the poorest or richest dwarves living completely underground (much like Tolkien's hobbits.)

Terrace farming and megalith construction make them a little like the Inca, but with iron-working.

>>66630422
This, that is how dorfs do magic, pragmàtic and precise

>>66670153
She's so cute it'd almost be worth living underground.

>What are Dwarven women like? How do they differ from their men?
Honestly I sort of imagine they act a lot like dwarven men. As far as looks go short females with rapunzel like braided hair is my favorite. But I like fantasy dimorphism. So I suggest giving female dwarves stone/metal camoflauge skin and hair. Which is why most non dwarves don't think the females exist. In the dark caves visitors often mistake mounds of black hair as moving shadows rather than busy women. The stereotype of dwarves fucking rocks comes from several occasions of caught dwarves quickly hiding their lovers in rocks.

>What are the main dwarven food sources? Any particular crops or animals?
Sky potatoes. Inverse growing fruit trees. Mole cows. Drake milk.

>What are the different Dwarven races like? (We've had an entire thread about this one before.)
They're actually just sports teams and body paint.

>What is Dwarven religion like?
All dwarves agree on only the basics of their religion every dwarf thinks every other dwarf gets minor details wrong.

What are Dwarf-Elf relations like?
drinking buddies where they talk about the good old centuries.

What are Dwarf-Kobold or Dwarf-Goblin relations like?
I imagine tokenly hostile as nusiances. Some dwarves are cool with them but they're not typically allowed to just waltz in a city.
Why are Dwarf women by far the cutest?

Short, feminine, blunt, and built like anvils

>>66660964
Only if you're human.

>>66595886
Snow white and the seven squats?

>>66598700
The Laws and Ordinances of the Cities Ankh and Morpork forbid it.

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>>66661759
Druid

>>66674894
My mind thought the exercise first. How else does a princess get tone glutes?

>>66659589
I doubt dwarf society would have enough free resources to allow for capitalism or competing against one another early on. Their lands are very harsh and depend on them all cooperating. I'd imagine something more similar to socialism with a lot more pride and respecting your ancestors baked into it would be the cultural norm.

>>66662312
Not quite. It's really just based on private ownership of means of production to make s profit. It COULD be based on honor or contracts, but it's not based on it.

However I imagine a dwarf living with humans would soon learn he can make an absolute killing with a capitalist mindset.

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>Arctic Dwarves that burrow into glaciers or Everest sized mountains of permanent snow

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>>66654659
well we all know the best nazis where jews so that is a terrifying prospect.

>>66665910
I love it. I would be very enthousiastic to play something like this. Maybe a little bit more humanoïd.

>>66665910
I want to marry and provide forthat sheep girl!

>>66679170
Free wool anon! Free wool.

>>66679797
Wool is the best kind of beard, you can shave it every year (!) and make the best quality of gambeson.

>>66597709
I actually have a decent reason for it in the all dwarfs game I've recently ran.
That reason being Drow.
Basically the Dwarfs didn't meet surface elves until long, long after they'd met the Drow. As you can imagine by that point their immediate reaction to anything with pointy ears was 'punch until the fucker reaches the consistency of a bag of skittles'

>>66679887
Your reason sucks and your game sucks

What are some good dwarves in fiction that can't be boiled down to "Grrr I am angry and have a funny accent!" or "Grr I am the same as the other guy but drunk!" but still feel like dwarves?
I am trying to figure out how to use them for more than just wacky one-off NPCs
>>66665910
I like the aesthetic a bit more than the usual burly midget.

>>66680786
I mean, you can probably just read some DF stories and examples of what dwarfs are, because that game tends to handle that shit beautifully.

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>>66680786
Here's my favorite /tg/ example.
Community, camaraderie, brotherly love. To be rowdy and compete with, and to stand beside with, through thick and thin.

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>>66665910
>ywn live a life in a cozy hill-village with the other dorfsheep, tending to the fields and shipping off your crops to your mountain-dwelling kin in return for tools and gold
>you will never spend long, lazy afternoons after your work is done lounging in the fields, enjoying the sun on your face and the wind through the grass as the smells of cooking food from your cottage come out to greet you
>you will never enjoy home-baked bread and roast beasts from the woods not so far off as two brothers, one from your village and one from the mountainhome sing long and beautiful tales of the joys of your world and the adventures of your greatest heroes in between tall mugs of amber beer

>>66680813
Those still feel pretty memey to me.
>>66680896
>Dwarves care for their families and friends more than any other race
That is actually a great spin on them.
Dwarves in video games and every dwarf PC I have ever seen tend to be sociopaths or memes so I never stopped to consider that idea.

>>66681547
>Dwarves in video games and every dwarf PC I have ever seen tend to be sociopaths or memes so I never stopped to consider that idea.
Because that's the actual root of their myth. They're greedy, paranoid, suspicious ugly little shits. Literal maggots of a giant

>>66681916
Tbf, in the OG scriptures they're treated as comedic relief and/or as a bunch of shitheads. There's a scene that takes place during Baldur's funeral where Thor's standing close to the funeral pyre and this dwarf keeps scuttling about between his feet. He eventually gets pissed and kicks the dwarf onto the pyre and kills him.

>>66681916
Maybe dwarf-zombies end up looking like giant ambulatory maggots as a nod that legend.

>>66681133
Where can i found cute sheep pic without finding disgusting furry porn ? I want them in my comfy fantasy adventure, plz.

>>66681547
It makes sense, I mean fuck, they live underground in very close proximity to each other, you'd HAVE to like each other, you'd go batshit crazy if you didn't!

>>66681916
I would say that it is because dwarf encountered during an adventure are solitary and outcast from their society. You don't really find Dwarf with their shit together on the road, or at least not without their clan.

>>66683232
If you give me a bit, I'd be willing to dump my collection. Might give us a reason to make another thread to boot.

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>A weredeer shows up to my fortress and starts attacking my dorfs with duel-wielded books.

I fukken love dwarf fortress.

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>>66683232
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>>66685602
You know, it would probably be wiser to do this in another thread, or even off of /tg/ entirely. Posting all of this art would probably result in de-railing the thread or me getting outright banned and that'd suck either way.

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>>66657115
Giant wombats

>>66593561
Chaos Dwarves when?

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Can i have some other image for my character ? He look like this.

>>66692693
No you may not.

>>66593561
Here I thought about something: Dwarves like dogs, and Elves prefer cats.

>>66694552
Have you not played Dwarf Fortress?

>>66694906
I didn't, but I've seen the memes. Aren't cats the end of a fortress a lot of times?

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>>66593678
Depends on where your media originates from.

>>66695013
Ancient meme, catsplosion has been dead for years. So have elephants and carp. All the funny bugs are gone now and replaced with increasingly solid gameplay.

>>66695752
I like neither option

>Dwarves maxing our a thread
Based

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What kind of skin tones do you give dwarves?

>>66702634
Had this one idea for dwarves to ritually flay themselves.

Its what makes their skin extra tough. When it scars over it starts looking like craggy rock.

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>>66702920
I don't get why pages of this keep getting posted in Dwarf threads.

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>>66595540

That is good. Thank you! Totally going to use this (with some modifications) as my homebrew setting has Dwarf kingdoms right next to a region that is plagued by undead.

>>66705153
Brown dawi titties

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>>66595540
especially of concern to dwarfs are vampires. these creatures are protected underground from the rays of sunlight and far harder to detect than random undead. Many parts of dwarven daily rituals and customs are in small part done to weed out those with the taint. Doorways and arches are everywhere in a dwarven settlement and their ownership very clearly determined. a vampire needs permission to enter someone's territory and so many separations slow them down.

>>66705565
I love that pic.

>>66681133
why live?

>>66593561
There's a non-nude version of this?

>>66706747
Yes, her name is "Helga." She's got quite a bit of art on Hentai Foundry. She's even hotter naked.

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>>66665910
Wait a minute, if you make them sheep-people then they wouldn't be Scottish, they'd be English.

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>>66705565
>Doorways and arches are everywhere in a dwarven settlement and their ownership very clearly determined. a vampire needs permission to enter someone's territory and so many separations slow them down.

This is the best piece of fantasy lore I have read in a while. Great idea, anon.

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I'd think they'd be welsh actually.

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How advanced do you make your dwarfs and how do they come off to the rest of the world?

Oh shit is there a need for another thread?