Is cassette futurism a dead genre? I can't find any resources on it. Alien: Isolation is the only big media release that's dealt with the aesthetic, but beyond that I can't find game, book, or movie that's been released in the past ten years that's tackled it.Seems like cyberpunk up and above beats it out, and even then it's only JUST coming back (new Bladerunner movie, Cyberpunk 2077 game, Va-11 Hall-A game, etc.).Nothing else deals with cassettes, old blocky computers, 8-bit computer screens, 80's music, retro sound effects, and blocky technology.
Oh my fuck I love this genre
>>61828402it's extremely charmingbut i can't even find a good-looking cyborg in the styleits resources and sources are very limited
>>61828443everything is either cyberpunk or some obscure and vague dystopian future
>>61828369heavy cartidges, floppie disks, cassette tapes, the whole shibang
>>61828369Most people call it used future, I think.And it's not a genre, it's an (excellent) aesthetic. That is heavily tied to the cold war period, meaning you won't see a lot of current sci-fi using it. Why would they, after all? There's nothing to it beyond the retro appeal in most stories.Does using floppies instead of flash drives impact the narrative? Is going back to the '70s and '80s the only way of removing innovations like cellphones? No.
Boxy, beige, and clunky makes my dick hard. Sleek chrome is a shit A SHIIIIIIIT
>>61828369Battlestar Galactica? Pretty much the whole look is based on tech regression and having humans use relatively simple electronics/computers or mechanical instruments.And I love that look. It has that personal feel that's lost in the age of throwaway devices and "clean" digital.Also, thanks for tellimg be that Va11 Hall-A has that aesthetic too, it's sitting somewhere in my backlog.
>>61828369Fallout, I guess? Prey (the new one) did a pretty good job at a general retrofuture aesthetic, with some parts looking amazingly fancy while others still looked like they were from the 50s.
>>61828824Sauce for pic?
>>61828824i suppose it taking up an aesthetic makes it more flexiblei like the look and function of cyberpunk, but it's almost always dystopian futuresnever liked that. i think you can take used future and go other places with it
This is now a Used Future Art Thread
>>61828369It's literally a subset of Cyberpunk. It was never a genera, but an aesthetic.
>>61828402I'm pretty sure Op picture is from it but Alien Isolation does it so so well
Well, I made small game with that theme, sort ofhttp://ludumdare.com/compo/ludum-dare-36/?action=preview&uid=1477
>>61828402>select reply>. . .>computing>. . .>FUCK YOU ASSHOLE
Wrote a sci-fi homebrew with this aesthetic. It worked fairly well.
Yeah the genre died along with actual CRT tech. Nowadays it's iFuture: spick and span, large unused spaces, sterile, white or at least bright, multicoloured displays and holographic displays.There'll probably be the occasional independent or low budget movie with cassette future aesthetic but yes, you're not going to see any more big films or shows featuring it. Which sucks, because iFuture aesthetics is ugly bland normie shit.
>>61828369Theres a game on Steam, called Routine, that has this look and promises to be great.Shame its been stuck in development hell for 5 years.
>>61829100Anyone got some art to dump? I'm having a hard time finding anything because I'm not sure what to search.
>>61829171It is, Alien Isolation!
>>61829306same problemi have difficulty finding any art or things that could be used in a settingi really want some indie developer or filmaker or writer to come along and revive it at least to a cult-level popularity
>>61829500sometimes i wish i put the work into learning unity so i could make my own shit
>>61828824so its basically deadsad
>>61828369I don't play many video games but I really enjoyed this one. Soundtrack is great too.
>>61828369Here is some content:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAcAd1fUiy8And it is not necessarily a dead genre, just one you need to REALLY narrate and integrate into your game. Due to the low level of tech you need to impart the limitations and uniqueness of the tech to your story telling more than other genres
>>61828369thread theme?does vaporwave fit well with this aesthetic?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQyzEyIf7P0
>The year was 198X
>>61829279Yeah, they announced that game when I was still in high school, and there hasn't been any updates almost all year.
>>61829787>in the far-off fixture of 2020
None of you chucklefuck zoomers would have any interest in this if you had to actually use this tech rather than just wank to pictures of it. It was horridly slow, inflexible, ugly and took up massive amounts of space. It sucked balls.
>>61830155It was impractical, true, but the entire appeal is the aestheticWe obviously wouldn't want to live with the actual technologyAnd your criticism applies to everythingEveryone likes ancient Egypt, but no one would want to live there were a scrape would kill you from infectionNo one would actually want to live in the 1920s where racism and sexism and crazy shit aboundedNo one actually wants to live in an oppressive dystopian cyberpunk universeNo one here is saying they'd rather live with the technologyJust that it's coolYou're a fag for calling Everyone else zooners and stating the obvious
>>61830155It's like how Judge Dredd or 40k has these obviously ugly and brutal-looking aesthetics. We would obviously want something far nicer, but it makes for an interesting look and adds character to the setting. It can make even a sci-fi setting look crude and closer to the modern day, for example.
I liked when War was illustrated like this
Byte had some great covers
>>61830497What is Byte?
Holy shit I never knew there was a name for this style, I've always loved this shit but never had a name for it.
>>61828369Has anyone ever successfully set up a game with this style?How'd it go? How'd you design it? What system did you use?
>>61830519Apparently a technology magazine that use to run in the 70s
>>61829703Vaporwave and retrowave. I think that part of the problem people are having searching for this is that unlike other genre aesthetics "cassette future" was the actual real world aesthetic for a good 30-40 years. There is actually a ton of fictional examples of it, one just has to look at then contemporary sci-fi.
>>61830563That probably explains why you can't google for any of it effectivelyIt's probably listed under general headings and search words like "future" because they didn't know what they thought the future would be like would become a genre unto itself, ironically enough, in the futureIn essence, their visions became outdated and actually were nowhere near where we're expected to head nowAmazing
>>61828369>cassette futurismI have legit never even heard of this, and I have been into things like this, since cassettes where the medium of data storage.
>>61830155You're just havin less than a good time
It always amuses me when people consider this aesthetic dead.It's largely just durable utilitarian.Aside from things like 5.5 inch floppies, it's not that outlandish.
https://www.reddit.com/r/cassettefuturism/The subreddit for this aesthetic is shitThere's no community for itNo community means no creatorsNo creators means no contentNo content means less public awareness of itNo public awareness means bigger creators don't pick it upIf bigger people don't pick it up then it means no one knows about itAnd if no one knows about it then it's deadSad
>>61830666While it may be around a lot in industrial equipment, it doesn't have much bearing on other realms of life. That stuff stayed because it's a lot more utilitarian, while things like cars, computers, phones, and many other things people have more every day exposure took the stark, white, and lifeless meme seriously.
>>61830666It's not just manufacturing, the military is pretty much permanently stuck with early 90s aesthetics due to durability and longevity requirements.
>>61830155tell me about itI use to make ship sailsthe commuter we used, to calculate if the angles where good. was the size of a room and took hours to do what, I can do on my phone in seconds.but it did make better soundshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwj8nfsk2Hs
>>61830708"Stark, white, and lifeless" more or less perfectly describes computing from the 60s-90s. Modern aesthetics are just a minimalist continuation. If anything the stuff that cribs from the casemodding community, like Alienware, is the actually distinct aesthetic currently.
>>61830754GawI'm orgasming right nowhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nLy_jEbuY-U
>>61830754>die while system analyzes medical records
>>61830754>>61830828I miss my Apple II.
>>61828616Oh God I once went colorblind using that thing.>>61828660Didn't this guy get arrested for powergloving a kids joystick?
>>61828369Isn't the second edition of Shadowrun a big steamy pile of cables, 80's computers, and skillsofts the size of a fucking sness cartridge?
>>61828369I'm already losing interest in this thread from the sheer lack of content in this aestheticAlso because it's really an aesthetic and not much more than thatCyberpunk makes sense because the overbearing big brother surveillance police state has power in an invasively technological worldWhat genres can you make out of cassette tapes and ROMs?
>>61830843What is that?
>>61830952Utterly in love
>>61830952https://www.amazon.com/Colorfly-Pocket-HiFi-C4-32G/dp/B008Q0LRSKI think it's a media player
>>61828443not sure if this is what you're looking for, but your image reminded me of it
>>61830708>While it may be around a lot in industrial equipment, it doesn't have much bearing on other realms of life. That stuff stayed because it's a lot more utilitarian>>61830714>It's not just manufacturing, the military is pretty much permanently stuck with early 90s aesthetics due to durability and longevity requirements.Which is why it remains a perfectly valid aesthetic for things like space travel and such. Or day to day life in remotely locations or bases.
>>61830897I always imagine cassette futurism to be more optimistic than cyberpunk
>>61831032Cassette future is the alternate timeline where betamax rightfully won the cassette war.
>>61830897Literally anything since it's an aesthetic.
>>61831016Anything that requires ruggedness. >>61830897Cyberpunk has always been cassette futurism.
>>61831296>Cyberpunk has always been cassette futurismHow?
>>61831032I mean, I guess it could be, but then if you choose to include the Aliens franchise you then have the Weyland Yutani's of the universe glowering evilly in the shadows, scheming evil things in the name of profit. That's not exactly cheery. It feels an awful lot like the corporate shithole situation of cyberpunk.
>>61831114There's a web.m version of this with sound and the logo on the screen flickers, but I can't find it
>>61830155There are things I miss and things I don’t miss.Back then, there were many more differences between computing platforms than there are today. Pixels on a Macintosh were different from pixels on an IBM clone, for example. Improvements in computing power led to huge changes in the way you could use one— think about 1988 to 1998 versus 2008 to 2018.But today’s consumer electronics are better in just about every way. They’re less (physically) hackable, harder to repair, and prone to serious security problems, but they’re also cheaper, faster, more capable, and more reliable. Not to mention lighter: if you think the iFuture is boring, try lugging around the old stuff for a while.I’m not criticizing the aesthetic preference, here. It’s just kind of weird to see that sentiment directed at stuff we wanted to get the hell away from.
>>61831328This is trueBut that's just how I like to imagine itIt is a flexible aesthetic, after all
>>61831401>MEGATRON>I HAVE SPIED ON THE AUTOBOTS>GO RAVAGE>RETROPUNK IS BEST GENRE>DIE, OPTIMUS
>>61830897>What genres can you make out ofAny setting that requires ruggedness and would be enhanced by the aesthetic.
>>61831379>. Improvements in computing power led to huge changes in the way you could use one— think about 1988 to 1998 versus 2008 to 2018.My parents brought home our first computer in 1988.It was an "IBM-compatible". It had five colors, magenta, cyan, yellow, white, and black. Came preloaded with hundreds of clones of popular early-80s computer games like that helicopter rescue one. Came with a dot-matrix printer that took a continuous feed of paper.
>>61831327It's depiction of computer technology is rooted in its conceptualization as a genre in the 70s.>>61831328Yeah, but you have to consider exactly how evil WY is in and of itself. Which gets you Alien with them considering the crew expendable. Aliens is all Burke and Alien 3 barely features them.
Seems like vapor wave has some of the best stuff for cassette tape futurism
>>61828369Does this belong to this genre? Futuristic 70s always look great to me.
>>61831596Just take a look at Japan; they basically learned about cyberpunk and ran with it.>>61831645Yes.
>>61831596Yup. Mass consumer culture where sign-value has imposed a desire for the trappings of luxury above all other concerns, vast mall-temples catering to your every desire if you have the right credit cards, sweeping city skylines filled with executive suites, the exotic promise of an Asia on the rise.And yet, it all feels so hollow, so distant. Its all in your head.
>>61831645Man, that whole thing is so fucked upI wish I could read Spanish better so I could enjoy this novel.
>>61828369Why? It's hardly even a genre, it's basically what people at the time thought the future would look like, it's objectively wrong. What's with this trend of millenials having this faux nostalgia over things from the 80's and 90's?
>>61831747Honestly, this is the song that popped into my head when looking through this thread:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awHWColYQ90Followed by the Streets of Fire soundtrack.
>>61831827>What's with this trend of millenials having this faux nostalgia over things from the 80's and 90's?Lol kiddo you have NOOOOOOO idea what you're headed for in the future.You think it's just coincidence that there were so many movies in the 1980s that looked back on a nostalgic version of the 1950s? Or why there were so many hippie movies in the 1990s? Just wait a few decades and you'll be nostalgic for this period in history as your mind edits out all the shit parts and only remembers the part about you being young.
>>61831827Some of us actually lived through the 80s and 90s, asshole.
>>61831876Oh lord this image has given me a boner in my soul
>>61831827>Stop liking things>MillennialsNice!
>>61831870>>61831869>You kids just don't understand
>>61831876>when you realize modern car systems are basically the exact same only less intuitive to work>>61831966How can you have faux nostalgia when you actually lived through the time period in question?
>>61831966I mean, that's literally the answer.>Why do people look back on the period in time when they were young with fondness?>It's because they were younger then and things were more familiar and seemingly less complex>That answer is stupid! You're stupid!Go play outside, grownups are talking.
>>61832000>>61832007I'm not the other poster
>>61828369>Ctrl F "Brigador">Zero Resultshttps://youtu.be/0ABEl6XySBw
>>61832139man Future Cop: LAPD looks better then I remember
>>61830155Looking back, comparing it to what we have now yeah it sucked. At the time...I remember being hyped as fuck to get a walkman, or buying my first desktop PC that took up a whole desk. At the time it was great.
>>61832249>ywn blast synths with a .44 Mag Super Redhawk with an Imatronic LS45 mounted on top while synth beats blast in the background
>>61828641>>61828660>>61828616>>61828602>you will never be that cool kid on the playground V
>>61830828that's the shitI miss the clickty click of text appearing and the boop of a new page
>>61832557>tfw I wasn't getting the most out of my Game BoyAll I had was a Light Boy and four Game Paks
>>61831966Heh, it was a Mac Classic 2 for me. Monochrome. I remember installing an FPU in it— you needed a special long screwdriver to open the case.>>61831966The really weird part about getting older is that you have all these memories that younger people don’t have. It’s weird for me, anyway.>>61832385It was, and for a long time it just kept getting better and better. You’d get something and it’d be awesome, and two years later there’d be a new thing that made the one you had look like a museum piece. Computers are still getting better, of course, but the differences aren’t as large. So now there are, apparently, people in the world who don’t know what the jump from 8-bit consoles to 16-bit consoles was like, and you can’t explain it to them.Kids these days, I tell you.
>>61832557I remember those few brief years where we dressed like a Power Rangers extra.>>61832662I wonder if my parents still have my old Game Boy.
>>61832717I'm pretty sure I had both that shirt and pants.
>>61828369Development team describes their replication of the original movie's technology and aestheticshttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aVUzytvcyYASome guy on YouTubehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8G-fzttSVZ8Speed run showcases all the technology in the gamehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sbGcs4VJF5E
Stuff like this is weird for me. I grew up at the very tale end of 90's. I never really had stuff like the Play Station, Dreamcast, or that sort of stuff, but my older cousins that I spent a lot of time with did. It's not really a part of "my" childhood because I was too young/didn't have it, but I sort of feel a nostalgia for it. Guess I'm just a faggot.
>>61830666I was just old enough to use a floppy disk for most of my early years in school as a way to transport files. I kept sticking with it even after flash drives started becoming a thing, but eventually I lost it and had to get a flash drive.Kind of sad - it wouldn't even work with any computer nowadays, but it would've been nice to keep just for nostalgia's sake.
>>61832942I'm sure someone sells a 5.75 to USB adapter
>>61830897A rugged low-tech sci fi.Something retrofuture, or stuck in the past like pre-war Fallout and the 50s aesthetic.Cyberpunk's genial, friendlier older brother.
>>61832304>Sort of an all-inclusive Corvid name for truck chassis on legs. Lots of people argue over where the name comes from, but it's generally accepted that Corvid engineering (if it can be called that) almost always puts a higher load on the power plants for mechs. That means Fatshoes don't handle like Touros despite a lot of shared components. Usually? Less maneuverable, less armor on a Fatshoe but more gun and more speed. Hell of a thing to see a Fatshoe haul ass down the highway, Corvids race them like they race Skates and basically everything else.
>>61832986>The Baltimore is a cost-cut version self propelled gun platform built on a Canmore chassis. Shares about the same firepower as a Canmore, but with the exposed crew, it just can’t take the punishment that a Canmore or most NEP tanks can. It shouldn’t need to, an SPG like it should never see the front lines, but the NEP has been overextended for too long. Everything makes it to the front.
>>61833001>I have a hard time believing these things have an up time of more than an hour or two on a side, depending on how many rounds get fired. Two Heavy mounts in a nest of guide wires bolted to a cannibalized bomber fuselage, and who knows how many Corvids inside keeping the thing running. The old school bomber approach to crewing is a cute touch, though. Waist gunners, main gunner seat where the bombardier would sit. Knowing that bolting any more armor to the vulnerable backside would topple the thing right over, they just stick a dedicated spotter back there and call it good. Too much of everything and a philosophy of radical inclusiveness, especially bad ideas. The Corvid way.
>>61833014>Ingenious repurposing of Fork legs way above their weight class. I'd be amazed if we don't find one of these with a leg sheared clean off after a sharp turn though. But then if you have a bad idea, Corvids will strap an engine and a driver's seat to it. They're democratic that way.>Open air vertical tandem seating pairs great situational awareness to a stupidly tall profile for a light mech. Loses the Fork's natural turning radius and responsiveness, but dual auxiliary mounts makes up for it.
>>61833035>Whatever team designed this was so in love with the weapon housing they forgot to leave room for the pilot. Driver height maxes out 1.68m, and even that's pushing it. The seat straddles the generator housing with far too little insulation, so taking a Swede out for a jog will max out the cooling system and still leave the driver in a puddle of their own sweat.>As a result Swede drivers suffer the double indignity of being both short and unhygienic, a lethal combination against hopes of promotion or romance. They're an idiosyncratic lot, and Fork drivers in particular pride themselves on always having jokes at the ready about how to "kill a Swede." The only redeeming quality is that it's actually quite effective in the field, which explains the continued deployment despite shortfalls on cockpit design.
>>61830395I think deliberate retroisms can make something last longer, like Star Wars.
>>61833049>The Sledger is classic Spacer arrogance writ small—an entirely unreasonable amount of weaponry loaded onto the tiniest legs possible. The end result is only a powersuit in the loosest sense. The barely-enclosed pilot is cradled in a barrel shaped cockpit whose weight balances out the gun and ammo supply. Sledger squads always make for a weird sight, but nobody’s laughing after they open fire.
>>61833052I can't be sure of that - I'm not even sure if Star Wars was retro in its day - but I do know that whatever is cutting edge will usually age like milk instead of wine. Making something feel timeless is usually the better bet - or if you can't manage that, at least in a somewhat vague time that won't just look cheesy to a later audience.
>>61833330Star Wars aesthetic is actually pretty commonplace 70s era sci-fi with its unique design elements primarily being the starships. What really sets it apart is that they went through the trouble of aging all their props and sets, with only the Death Star scenes, along with a few other space ship scenes, having that "clean" look commonplace to sci-fi. The term "used future" came about because Star Wars made it seem like all there sets were real places frequented by people and all their props were real items that saw use.
>>61833330>whatever is cutting edge will usually age like milk instead of wine. Making something feel timeless is usually the better bet - or if you can't manage that, at least in a somewhat vague time that won't just look cheesy to a later audience.This is good advice.My favorite is when they can manage to hit a time period well, but so vaguely you don't immediately catch the anachronisms.Like clamshell cellphones, flatscreen monitors,and men in hats in Gotham.Most subtle award: the movie Payback.I actually did a mental doubletake: "Wait. Was that a rotary carphone?"
>>61833906BTAS has it to some extent, but outside the black and white tvs, and 50s cars and fashion cues it's pretty solidly the early 90s.
>>61834001Well, there's also the Tommyguns.
>>61834189I can go out and buy a brand new production Tommy gun right now.
I’d love to have something like an old terminal computer that’s has its guts replaced with a modern computer, or something trying to imitate that design.
>>61833001Where is this "NEP Tank"?
>>61829239>30 years from now on people will miss "iFuture" and think how whatever nu-future there is is bland and for normies
>>61834319>Proof that some things can’t be improved on easily. It’s too heavy, sits taller than it ought to, turns slower than it ought to, and yet tankers adore it. The handling is charitably “spongey” at best, but the mountain of hull armor and good shielding mean that rookies and veterans alike get that many more precious seconds to bring their gun to bear against their foes. During The Troubles these things were both scourge of dissidents and reassuring symbols of real permanence, the kind of thing we’ve all been trying for in this city. Probably because the design of the tank predates the founding of Solo Nobre by several years at least. The Canmore will continue serving this regime and the next, and whatever’s after that, too.
>>61834411>Clearly a modified KV-2 with interleaved suspensionThis leads me to a related note: is the Abrams representative of cassette military technology? Where's Cyberpunk has cyborgs and various types of combat drone, Steampunk has land battleships and steam armour, and Diesel has mecha, what would a distinctively "cassette" take on futuristic/modern warfare be?
>>61830540umm... the 80s
>>61828983Ron Cobb, Nostromo concept art for Alien.Lots of good pics to be found there.
>>61834888Just look at the military prototypes and sci-fi of the period.
>>61834888I think we both know the answer to that, anon.
Also a load of Abrams variants since at this point it's the cutting edge of technology, especially with the A1 package.
>>61835626>>61835640>>61835645And maybe hover tanks as a sort of companion vehicle. The important thing bringing these all together is that they lack the greebling that a more conventional cyberpunk design would have, nor do they look sleek like a straight-up futuristic Polish hexagon stealth tank. Much like the computers of this era, they're defined by flat, utilitarian sides with minimal detailing and painted inoffensive colors when possible. Any details you see on the machine are clearly functional.
What does the future look like now anons? I keep hearing that cyberpunk is dead but like nothing came after it, we never had another future after it
>>61835647>Kung furyGet ye gone, zoomer
>>61837069Well, if we continue on our current track, I'd start looking at apocalypse fiction if you want a good idea.
>>61828369It's shit, so who cares?
>>61837433Not everywhere, it's gonna be like a Peter Watts book where the tech is mad good but concentrated in only a few places
>>61831869It's already happening. All the "Only 90's kids will get this" bullshit. I grew up in the 90's, they were objectively the worst. We didn't have any of the cool music, cars, fashion etc from previous decades and we didn't have any of the cool tech we have now.
>>61838582>It's already happening. All the "Only 90's kids will get this" bullshit. I grew up in the 90's, they were objectively the worst.Yeah, the thing is, I grew up in the 80s and they were objectively the worst... until I hit my 30s and started getting nostalgic for my childhood and the "simpler, better time" that it seemed to represent to me. You won't be any different, and expecting that you'll somehow be immune to nostalgia is exactly what every other twenty-something thinks will happen to them.
>>61828369I think your best bet is to find games or settings that were created in the early to mid 80's and never changed much. Battletech has a strong retro future look and feel to it as does the early editions of Shadowrun and I think Cyberpunk 2020 does as well. If you start out stating the appearance of things you can include the aesthetic in surprising places, I ran a game of Traveller where I used pictures taken from Alien and Blade Runner among other scifi movies from that Era to set the tone of the universe.
>>61839321>You won't be any different, and expecting that you'll somehow be immune to nostalgia is exactly what every other twenty-something thinks will happen to them.This is truth.>>61838582>90's, they were objectively the worst.Meh.90's into the 00's were kinda the beginning of the emptiest period And now it's emptiness with cool tech. So I get your general point.90's had some great music though.
>>61830897I like how Alien did it. It's the ultra-utilitarian future where durability and use matter more than anything else. You just need a setting that cares about use more than aesthetics for every reason. A harsh environment, expensive materials and resource scarcity, etc work well for that.
>Living in a small apartment attached to some sort of research station>Every day working along the bulky, humming instruments that output all sorts of readings. Working with old, clunky, clacky computers.>Station is on the outskirts of a small town. Somewhere in the Pacific Northwest with lots of snow.You can’t tell me this isn’t the coziest
>>61842523Is this loss?
>>61843051I want out if this reality.
>>61832139>BrigadorGood Taste! Also don’t mind me, just posting best mech
I'm not sure if it counts, but Prey on some level seems to capture this aesthetic.
>>61843342I wouldn’t consider it quite the same but Prey has a sexy aesthetic in and of itself
>>61843359I guess that's true. In some areas it does look a bit like it's going tastefully retro rather than futuristic, but there aren't any cassettes or anything that I recall. It's sort of more like Deus Ex: HR's aesthetic than anything? I don't know.Figured I might as well try sharing it, at least as an environment it seems vaguely close in some ways.
>>61834888>is the Abrams representative of cassette military technology?Needs more urban camo
>>61829576I love how ridiculous this is
>>61843475Did you mean to post an image of an empty street?
Obviously a bit earlier than the 80s tech that's been posted, but I seriously loved how the second Captain America film had Zola transfer his consciousness onto a fucking shittonne of cassettes. The clunky physicality of it all makes it so much more unsettling than the standard digitalised upload
>>61834888>is the Abrams representative of cassette military technology?I don't know about the Abrams, but some navies seem reminiscent of the aesthetic.
>>61843404Going by your pics, it looks like mixed Art Deco/Streamline Moderne interior design combined with Mid-Century Modern furnishings inside Structural Expressionism architecture.
>>61843794That's simultaneously retarded and amazing. Why have I never seen anything else like this before?
>>61843342Based and underrated game
>>61843794One of the few cool things (and one of the few that actually felt like a comic book) that has happened in any of the Marvel movies
>>61844902If they did more shit like this maybe I'd consider watching those movies
>>61830155>t.salty faggot who couldn't actually use it
>>61844423>>61843404>>61843359>>61843359>>61843342Cassette Futurism. Used Future, etc. seems pretty difficult to peg in terms of architecture. It seems like to me the style is much more suited for computers and technology than it is for cities and buildings.
>>61833330literal ww2 era guns and gizmos, camera lenses, real life early reflex sights. Shit wasn't donut-tube rayguns and skin tight latex.
>>61845022Winter Soldier manages to simultaneously be the most grounded and "comic book" of all the MCU films. It takes its presentation of a political conspiracy and coup so seriously that you don't really question the presence of a supersoldier, ex-Russian assassin, jetpack-flying Air Force vet, brainwashed cyborg, secret Nazis, flying battleships, or a guy who digitized his brain to magnetic tapes.It's also the best Metal Gear film we're ever going to see.
>>61845322"Used future" refers to a presentation of an aesthetic, not an aesthetic itself. Star Wars is used future, so is Firefly, reboot Battlestar Galactica, Guardians of the Galaxy, and The Expanse.
>>61845399>Night RiderMy dick
>>61845409>"Used future" refers to a presentation of an aesthetic, not an aesthetic itself.This. Cassette Futurism refers to the cassette-based technology and is overall a more evocative term.
Space Station 13 kind of has this asethic since a lot of computers in the game are made out of glass tubes and use floppy discs for programs, although you can have an AI intelligence with it and space wizards running around.
>>61846351SS13 based its aesthetic off of Alien, so it makes sense it would look similar.
>>61828824>heavily tied to the cold war period, meaning you won't see a lot of current sci-fi using it. Why would they, after all?Haven't you been listening to the liberal media, anon? The cold war is going stronger than ever.
>>61839321I'm a twenty-something, and I'm already kind of nostalgic for the late 2000s. You're on the mark, though, most people thinks their childhood was a "simpler, better time". Hell, even Obama vs McCain seems nostalgic to me. It's weird.
>>61829833>>61843117What are these from?
>>61846606The first one is definitely from Alien.
>>61846477It never really stopped, Russia just got too poor to play for a couple of years.>>61846256"Cassette" in this case refers mainly to the physical nature of the storage mediums. Given the time period evoked by the aesthetic, it covers everything from punch cards, to magnetic tape, floppies, cassettes, cds, laserdiscs, and even zip drives. Hell, one might even be able to stretch it to include early flash drives.
>>61834888>From what I gather in Spacer arms procurement (which is not easy intel to come by), the Rounder is an older service model. Unusual for them to keep anything old around. Then again I hear Spacers are phasing out a lot of their famously weird ball-tread vehicles gradually, but they don't have a replacement tank for the Rounder. Easy to see why, it's sturdier than the average Spacer design with all of their best features intact. Low profile, much more responsive than most tanks come.>>61843270The Fork is cute!CUTE!!!
>>61828602it’s a shame, cartridges made in the modern day would probably have a much higher capacity than disks and also just feel better too handle, but it’s like current tech is just too dedicated to disk and digital.
>>61847086Maybe one day Nintendo will go back
>>61828641the powerglove could work, but make it for the non-dominant hand
>>61847116A modern Powerglove would work just fine, the primary issue was the need to dumb down the hardware in order to be affordable as a consumer product.
>>61828824>There's nothing to it beyond the retro appeal in most stories.I'd trust my life to analog switches over touch-screen interfaces any day.>super-advanced spaceship with 1000 people living on board is controlled from an iPadNo thanks.
>>61847224>super-advanced spaceship with 1000 people living on board is controlled from an iPad>No thanks.There's a reason all the NASA space shuttle tech is 1970s-1980s. Digital stuff would be very untrustworthy in space. Better to keep all the important stuff analog solid-state tech.
>>61847224Any issues with input would largely be the same problems, and integrated controls as opposed to hot-swappable ones of any kind are a bad design choice.
>>61847280Switches don't stop being able to connect a relay after a botched software update.
>>61847095>>61847086Nintendo is literally making cartridges for their current console right now. They're thumbnail-sized and hold up to 60 GB, although publishers are cheapskates and keep going for smaller ones and making us download the rest of the game.>a much higher capacity than disksAbsolutely not. A Blu-Ray disc can hold something like 120 GB but a cartridge that big would be prohibitively expensive. That kind of memory is more durable but inherently more expensive. It does have the advantage of much faster load times, however, which is why N64 games have pretty much no loading screens whereas PSX games are filled to the brim with them.
>>61847280I don't trust software to control life support, engines, or other critical systems on a space ship. Software is not reliable. Remember when software engineers had to spend most of the 90s working their asses off to update legacy software to prevent Y2K from breaking everything because different engineers in the 60s didn't think they'd need more than two digits to represent the year?
>>61830525Oh dear. An apocalyptic future where humanity is so depleted that a whole city fits inside a single van.
i have arrived with a shit ton of the related aesthetic, its gonna be ok kids
>>61848144Thank you dad
>>61848188I love you, son.
I love this style. If I ever run cyberpunk or something I'd go for this look.
working on finding some good environments, probably gonna be a bit tough
>>61848261>>61848295>>61848403>>61848552>We traded this beauty for faggy iFutureBut why tho
>>61848624i dunno, tech is definitely a lot faster but i guess folks just developed shit taste thanks to the 90s/00s
>>61848643Oh believe me the current speed of things is amazing and anything slower is painful, but we could have at least kept the aesthetic
>>61848624Normies and Steve Jobs. if it makes you feel better ifuture is probably on it's way out
>>61839321I’m 37. I don’t have any particular fondness for the 80s, so it’s not universal. However, this thread has led me to think about what I miss.1. Neon.2. Ubiquitous, popular sci-fi.3. The sense that computers were really, really exciting.4. Angular, semi-futuristic sports cars.5. A sense that the world was not completely fucking bonkers (everyone probably had that; I was just too young to feel that way).That’s... kind of it, actually. Though I do dread the day when nobody remembers Super Mario Bros. 3 anymore.>>61844423How do you learn this stuff? I wish I had that kind of knowledge, but my brain is mostly full of molecular biology.>>61846803>zip drivesOh man, that takes me back. The click of death. I always liked the concept, though.
>>61828369There's a great Reddit thread about this very thing! Come by and drop some posts sometime!https://www.reddit.com/r/cassettefuturism/
>>61847599>Remember when software engineers had to spend most of the 90s working their asses off to update legacy software to prevent Y2K from breaking everything because different engineers in the 60s didn't think they'd need more than two digits to represent the year?Yes! People came around to my high school looking for help. And the heck of it is that BECAUSE hundreds of people worked their asses off, nothing serious happened, and everyone who didn’t know the story assumed that there had never been any potential problem in the first place.
>>61848666Whats the next aesthetic, /tg/?
>>61848748Honestly, probably something in the middle between ifuture and casette futurism. Like Blade Runner 2049 or Cyberpunk 2077
>>61848643On the contrary, 2000 is where this aesthetic peaked and matured into beige practicality, where it's still somewhat usable today if you're patient and savy. After that it was thrown out for Apples'.>>61848748You seen Deus Ex HR? It seems to be something like that.
>>618486241. Because the iFuture was better.2. Because microcontrollers became cheaper than custom electromechanical systems, meaning that lots of special-purpose circuitry was replaced by general-purpose embedded systems running firmware.
>>61848748Judging by my monitor, lots of glossy black and sharper angles than anything Apple makes.
finding environments for this stuff that isnt just straight up computer rooms is hard
i guess cassette futurism treads a fine line between being cramped and cozy, definitely much warmer and happier colors though
needs more piping and conduits but i think it works
getting hard to find environments that stay on topic so im moving back to hardware
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I don't usually like claustrophobia, but something about how enclosed and warm used future is just makes it seem comfortable. Rows of computers, data-banks, and servers just seems peaceful.
If you're doing cassette futurism, be sure to include teleprinters.Also, only tangentially related to the thread, but this was a cool game: https://nothke.itch.io/normans-sky
>>61832557holy shit, i can carry an entire 2 games!?!
>>618492876 game paks. 7 counting the pak in the game boy. Who even used the light boy?
>>61848933If you need more appropriate environments, watch some Venture Bros. Plenty of the same aesthetics in that show.
do we wanna move this shitshow to a new thread so we can keep getting more images or nah?>>61849287>not having a future where SSD tech is still the gold standard, but disks are hot-swappable and have hundreds of games/movies/whatever data or media you need>>61849360eeeeh, i feel like VB is more art-deco-y. dunno if it's really angular enough for this style.
>>61849399Eh probably after we reach bump limit. We can still discuss things without images for the time being.
>>61830155Fuck you.My first PC was a Sinclair 1000.My first experience programming was bjimg this big ass phone book of BASIC games you had to punch in and save to an old Radio Shack cassette recorder.Then I got a C64 and loved every minute of Wasteland, Ultimate Wizard, MULE, and Mail Order Monsters. I tied up the phone line on BBSs and Q-Link.I thought it was the hottest shit every when I got an IBM clone that had enough HDD space to store and run Space Quest 2 without the disks. When AOL came I burned up floppy after floppy of free ten-hours of promo access as a poor ass college kid.When I went back to school I did my thesis on C64 emulation for the purposes of retrogaming.It didn't suck balls. It was warm and comfy. It was endless possibility for the future. It makes me take neither the luxury of modern computing or the wonder of the internet for granted.Without that, this wouldn't be here and what it is.
>just remembered a video of a green crt printing out geometric calibrations and star charts with tron music playing in the background>cant for the life of me find the webm or the original vid on YTlife is suffering
>>61849532not quite what you're looking for but definitely still coolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHCCjlSWbHE
>>61849532Oh shit, I remember that shit used to be spammed to hell on /wsg/ a few years ago. Not a day goes by that I don't wish I was less selective with what I would save back then. I guess I thought it would just be reposted forever
>>61849532>>61849652i found it brahwatch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOYqXlsgo78listen to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKEZoOjc6to
>>61849705and with that it's time for me to go to bedkeep dreaming of the retro future we deserve, anon :^)
>>61849730You're a true American hero
>>61848711>fondness for the 80s, so it’s not universal. However, this thread has led me to think about what I missLight-hearted sense of fun.There's something missing from modern media that was everywhere in the eighties and closest I can put my finger on it with was in one scene in the movie "House Bunny". In a montage, she's carrying a ridiculous stack of books and falls. I know, hilarious. But directly as she falls below screen, a bunch of the books goes flying upwards in an absurd fashion. It was just so light-heartedly stupid that I laughed. It just wasn't something that I'd seen in a long time.
>>61849762We're still in some weird phase that's like a reaction to the reaction to the reaction to the 90's being super edgy.
>>61849465Can you explain to me the early days of the internet, sage? I want to know more about the internet's early days and those who posted on it.
>>61829100give me that phone!
>>61849828 different anon here In the mid nineties, you could find places that were almost just like here, but the threads took weeks instead of minutes. You had to be into computers to get there, so they didn't have to use guroporn to keep the normies out.
>>61849828All of Usenet is available to browse thanks to Google. When I was looking up an obscure Dragon Ball dub from the late 80s I found a mid-90s thread where DB fans were crying about the then-upcoming dub.https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/rec.arts.anime/LYVZxCik7S8/sDwqQvH7LKgJ
This video would sorta be interesting if it wasn't so cringyhttps://youtu.be/2UgPAZtRErI
>>61849964The transition from Usenet to 4chan is honestly a blur to me. We're largely the same userbase, still arguing over the same inane points 30 years later, even as this site has become increasingly anachronistic among the web 2.0 environment.
>>61849416>We can still discuss things without images for the time being.I had some thoughts.>>61828369I'm seeing two separate and distinct genres emerging from this aesthetic:One we'll call:>Cassette Futurism(Unless we got a better name)It's more serious, deliberate, and reasonable.It's represented by durable, utilitarian technology, often in space or other such things like>>61840964>like how Alien did it. It's the ultra-utilitarian future where durability and use matter more than anything else. You just need a setting that cares about use more than aesthetics for every reason. A harsh environment, expensive materials and resource scarcity, etc work well for that.Most of the images we've seen fit for this.>>61829226This setting seems to work well with it. It would work well with any number of sci-fi or modern games, adjusting the tech level to fit.The other is aptly named:>Formica PunkIt seems focused on unusual reimagined anachronistic technology of the era.Like >>61830282>>61829522Modem Punk here seems a good fit, but other systems could easily work. I imagine a more gonzo adventure game, centered around the technology itself more. The hacking, phreaking, tinkering or whatever.It's been a while since I saw it, but Buckaroo Banzai immediately springs to mind as the kind of game, or retooled Shadowrun.Thoughts or variations?
>>61850027The joke is that it's just an IRC chatroom.
>>61829787>How I wish I was in Sherbrooke now
I can post a few things>image limit has been reachedOr maybe not.
So the ultimate for this setting is - cassettes and cathode ray tubes ... IN SPACE?
>>61850054>even as this site has become increasingly anachronistic among the web 2.0 environment.I really like 4chan and I fear the day when all we have left are social media sites like Tumblr and """discussion forums""" like Reddit.I'm not even talking about culture here. I really like 4chan's format.
>>61850054>anachronistic Like a shark.
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>>61848657The current aesthetic for the kind of hardware you'd buy in bulk, like for schools, that isn't Apple is largely the same albeit usually in dark grey or black.>>61848711A fondness for architecture and interior design leading one to seek out information, plus google.
>>61847086>cartridges made in the modern dayWe have those, they're called USB Drives.