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>>54693330

I could really use some Deadlands art. Or just western art. I'm about to start running a SW game of Deadlands.

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>>54694976
I'll dump what I have.

This is one of those settings I've wanted to try for years and I'm interested to hear how other people's experiences went. Anyone have advice for running a Deadlands game?

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>>54693330
I once had great success with a mad scientist - Billy Braxton, Boy Genius - who would continuously scrawl invention ideas on whatever surface happened to be handy. Basically what I did was I would look at whatever situation the party was in at any point, and come up with a dozen ridiculous, dangerous and impractical inventions that could get the party out of it. Stuck in a well? Coal-powered stilts, explosive-heel shoes, super-dense foaming soap. Dumb things that would only really be useful for solving the immediate problem. Never built like, 90% of them on account of it not being the time nor the place, but occasionally - usually when we were in a similar situation some time later -
with a bit of creativity I'd be able to pull out just the right tool for the job.

Of course I invented my way straight into the looney bin - character had to be retired after I ended up building a giant death ray in an attempt to blow up the moon for reasons that seemed perfectly reasonable at the time but were tragic in hindsight - but such are the perils of the improvisational sciences.

So to answer your question, best path of mad science I ever found was to find common situations that you will find yourself in, and then invent utilitarian devices to help get you out of them. Utility should never be underestimated.

>>54695184
>Anyone have advice for running a Deadlands game?

The books for it were pretty cheap off Amazon. Other than that, uh...It's a deadly as fuck system. Don't go too balls deep on the players. Also shotguns will ruin just about anyones day.

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>>54695290
No problems with making it challenging for the players then?

>>54693330
>the other spin-off, (Back off, I just woke up and never played that one, so the name is eluding me)
Hell on Earth? Lost Colony? D20?

>>54695396

Pretty much, yeah. Everyone has 3 health levels basically, and you need to roll over their toughness to damage them. Toughnesses are usually around 5 or so, and the average weapon does 2d6 before any Edges or anything else.

Backpack shisha pipe that doubles as flamethrower or smokescreen. Clockwork arm-exoskeleton that compensates recoil of a bigass revolver. Walking cane that shoots liquid nitrogen. Blinding flash built into monocle.
That how you mad science.

>>54695184
Once you get through the Character Creation and a round of combat, which you can adapt to surprisingly quickly despite how complicated it sounds on it's face, things can flow pretty smoothly.

As for running the game, keep in mind the Mad Science Reliability rolls, where any machine or alchemical concoction could backfire if you roll high on a d20. (only time when a Nat 20 is bad) Also, Jokers are wild cards, and the RED Joker is the player's friend. The BLACK Joker is your friend and will seriously fuck-up a characters day.

As for the enemies, you do NOT have to make them harder or adjust them very much. A lot of the critters that are stronger than just "mutant animals" have bullshit immunities and weaknesses that require quests in and of themselves.

For Example, Stone men. Just like it sounds on the tin, except they eat people (Or pretend to since, you know, they're rocks) and have supernaturally good hunting and tracking capabilities as long as they have their club in hand.
Weaknesses: They are afraid of blood that they didn't cause, so a player could scratch their hand and pull a "Back, you fiend!" a la a cross to a vampire. They can be lit on fire, but it takes twelve hours until they disintegrate, and until then they are a flaming rock-man of murder. And they can be stabbed with wooden stakes of a certain type. (Based on the ritual that made them)

Yeah, don't go hard on your players. The game will do that as written. But don't be afraid to call out players who fudge their rolls because I swear to GOD the Harrowed Huckster is pulling that shit left and right. (Bodyguard Hex that get's him 19 mother-fucking extra wounds, my aching ass.)

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>>54696389
Thanks for the advice anon.

Is Reloaded a better system than the OG Deadlands? I've heard some conflicting reports from people.

>>54697901

They're very similar systems, coming from someone who has owned and played both. Savage Worlds itself was basically a streamlined/improved version of Deadlands system actually.

You might as well go with Savage Worlds.

>>54693330

Suggestions for the Savage Worlds version:

When GMing, be free with giving players Bennies. As others have said, Savage Worlds can get lethal in a hurry. Bennies are a player's life-line.

Remember that fire-fights don't all occur at close range, on flat plains, in clear daylight. That makes fire-fights less dangerous.

The incapacitation and death rules are very non-traditional. Read them carefully.

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Anybody have real gameplay stories from Deadlands?

>>54698193
Nothing worth telling. I put one player through a drinking contest with a dead man, ran some train heists, players blew up a dirigible. Fun times, but nothing that really shines.

That said, any interest in some Deadlands adaptations of Barsoom races and shit? Also, stuff for Tripod Martians and Rockwell grey style aliens?

>>54698193
I recommend starting with normal goons. Cattle rustlers, train robbers, bar fights, or some other mundane issue. Let the players learn how to not die before getting to the spooks in the shadows.

Love this game

>>54695290
Going from d&d 5e to deadlands was so jarring
Just witnessing my players starting off i gave them lower starting cash then recommended because i did not want everybody to have nothing to work up to
They get enough money to afford nicer things
one of them purchases a shotgun
I read the rules for think "wow thats a bit strong but im sure it will be ok"
They encounter a unnatural monster
One fucking blast that thing is gone
Shot guns are fucking magic in universes where magic is little to none

>>54701506

Remember, it being a deadly system goes both ways.

>>54701607
Oh yeah i know i love the system it just shocked me into learning it more the first time round

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>>54694976
>I'm about to start running a SW game of Deadlands.

Hmm... I'm about to start playing a SW game of Deadlands. See you next Saturday?


It's my first time playing the system, actually, so I don't know where character should fall on the spectrum from grim to zany. The book plays it straight, but people who've storytimed it make it seem like Blazing Saddles.

>>54701970
>>Hmm... I'm about to start playing a SW game of Deadlands. See you next Saturday?

Nope, not me. I only got one player, and I don't plan sessions, I run it off the cuff.

>>54698193
First time playing original deadlands.
>everybody meets up in the saloon playing cards, hitting on prostitutes and sizing each other up.
>party of 8, three of which are gunslingers
>two of the gunslingers obviously have to see who is the quicker draw and go outside to have a shoot off
>third is quiet and doesnt look like the traditional two gun, quick draw artist so stays out of it
>they pull out a bottle of whiskey and toss it into the air
>both pull their guns and shoot and both miss
>third gunslinger, using a shotgun, had a slower initiative, shoots, and obliterates it with two shots before it can the ground.
>"You don't have to use pistols to be a good shot."

Later that session the party was fighting a chupacabra.
>Everyone was getting ready to find it and fight. >Tensions were high.
>It finally breaks out of hiding and charges the party.
>shotgun guy gets initiative this time, opens both barrels and drops it dead in its tracks
>fight over
>que rest of the adventure, everyone bitching that he's a big dirty cheater

>>54693330
Someone he's only played Savage Worlds deadlands how does it differ from the original?

I know a rise is done every five points rather then four. But I was thinking of a house rule that in anyway seeing as a roll of 4 on a d4 is technically at least a 5 anyway.

Are there any good recorded games of people playing deadlands?

Get a fucking cowboy hat.

It's great for everything. Staying in character, shuffling your bennies, some other third thing.

>>54702724
Keepin the rain off yer head.

>>54702760
Hiding your erections

So, weird question I know, but I gotta ask: if Deadlands D20 was a thing, do you think you could convert the D&D 5e system to run Deadlands?

>>54704637

I wouldn't attempt it, and d20 Deadlands was a bad idea. It's just not a system that is meant for that kind of stuff. Just get the Savage Worlds version, it's both good and retains all of the flavor since SW is just the older Deadlands rules streamline and turned into a generic system.

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I'll try and put some more inspo art in here

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>>54694976
>That fucked up Washington coastline.

Jesus, it's not like it's hard to get right.

Also, find it strange that this is outright stating that Wasatch won the Great Rail Wars when it was supposed to be up in the air still.

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>>54705503

I know is kind of obvious but Doomtown: reloaded is allowed here?
still, glad to see a deadlands thread here.

>>54705412
>Jesus, it's not like it's hard to get right

Remember, they did have absolutely gigantic earthquakes all over the world when most of Cali got wrecked by the quakes, Anon. Blame it on that.

>>54705758

Same here. I picked up a pack of cards and some poker chips as I'm readying a game for my usual group. It'd be the first game I actually run for 'em.

>>54707156
>>54707171
Could never find a complete set of that

Also, fuck Shirow, he's wasted his talents on shit porn when he could of made great porn and Appleseed II.

>>54707293
https://exhentai.org/g/484791/a633c37df2/

Bumping to keep a discussion that's not D&D, 40k or bait alive.

The Burrowers (2008) is a good Deadlands movie.
Dead Birds (2006) is shittier, but has some good spooky ideas.

Any others? Would Cowboys vs Aliens count, or was it too wacky?

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>>54707293
>Masamune Shirow
>makes some of the greatest fucking cyberpunk shit EVER to come out of Japan in the 80's and 90's
>spends the rest of his life drawing white women getting fucking by big black guys

Fucking Hell sunnavabitch motherfucker I have never been so mad at a waste of such fucking talent Goddamnit asshole stupid fucking 11 holy shit.

>>54710410
>or was it too wacky?

Deadlands has a sense of humor to it. Plus given Lost Colony is a thing, sure, whatever, aliens are fine.

>>54707237
Yes, 100% yes.

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>>54710410
High Plains Drifter has a slight Deadlands vibe.

Also Dead Man

Has anyone ever played Noir? Is it any good?

lads just dug up a copy of d20 deadlands from my dads loft, how aids is it?

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>>54715609

Sorry bro, it's terminal. The only cure is to get the Savage Worlds versions. It's just not a game that was meant to be d20'd.

>>54715649

I fuckin knew it

I got the pdfs tho, but really prefer the bewks ;-;

>>54715664

It's pretty cheap on Amazon. I got the players book, GM's book, and Savage Worlds for like $55 or so altogether.

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>>54693330
As complete first edition DL upload as you'll find any:
https://mega.nz/#F!318mUAhI!PRBxqMPKsSQNNZDOT0d5uw
Complete HoE+Lost Colony (well, except Toxic Tales but there wasn't any game material in that anyhow)
https://mega.nz/#F!ahVjnA4a!wTAEOymuEvqxTxL3yLK65g

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>>54711970
Motherfucking Bone Tomahawk!

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>>54710410
>>54711970
>>54720914
Noone's mentioned Ravenous yet? For shame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLt98WxrYAw

Grim Prairie Tales
Gallowwalkers
Mad at the Moon
Godmonster of Indian Flats

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>>54695589
>the other spin-off, (Back off, I just woke up and never played that one, so the name is eluding me)
Noir?

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>>54701970
>The book plays it straight, but people who've storytimed it make it seem like Blazing Saddles.
I'd say the average tone is more like The Hateful Eight in that while there is some amount of unsettling mystery causing tension in an adventure the player characters tend to be slightly larger than life and as such are a bit less affected by the grimness that surrounds them. That is until they find themselves alone with a monster.

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>>54702943
Sittin' in a corner lookin' menacin' when really you're just trying toget through your hangover.

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>>54722473

I've found the tone is pretty malleable. The books are written with some humor to them. You're gonna get some Blazing Saddles. You're gonna get some John Wayne. You're gonna get some spaghetti westerns. You're gonna get some Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

Much like any game, too much of one element makes it bad. A healthy mix is what you really need for a campaign. Thats why stuff like WoD gets made fun of, because it's always trying to make nothing but an oppressive tone and it comes off as almost comedically tryhard.

>>54707237
That is Deadlands in a nutshell.

Had a character, Mormon preacher, lost his arm in the first session to a non combat train accident. He used a shotgun, double barreled, and was good enough to take out a problem quick enough that a slow reload wasn't a problem. He died three times.

Another character, shootist, his whole shtick was magically enhancing his guns. Airship full of enemies was coming but he had time to buff his gun and had a stack of chips, it got stupid real quick. High rate of fire with a damage increased to instant kill numbers, armor piercing of 'yep ' and range of practically line of sight, dropped a dozen per round for a while until his chips started running out and he had to pull back.

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>>54707237

Literally what Deadlands was made for. Go forth and have fun, Anon.

>>54711004
Overly shiny, cgi guys.

Man, I was listening to a D&D podcast where somebody started recommending this and the mega in the thread has opened my eyes. This shit looks whack. Anybody got some good stories to share?

>>54695589
>>54722333
GURPS? Great Rail Wars?

>>54707156
The CG on that rifle's really obvious.

Anybody got a complete download of the Savage Worlds shit. And is it possible to adapt the d20 stuff over? Complete newbie but I'm getting sold on this game

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>>54726844
snip dot li slash SaWo

>>54711004
>>54707293
>he's wasted his talents on shit porn when he could of made great porn and Appleseed II.

Meh. The guy had two really good books in him and we got them. It was unreasonable to expect anything more of note. He's the same as Harper Lee.

Waiting for pinebox release new spoilers for DT:R. (anyone still plays this?)

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Anyone have any good town and city maps for Deadlands?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzDqCcTeSmY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrDV6VksSRU

>some of the best western-ish music comes from an old PS1 RPG series

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BAM!

>>54698193
My first game was with a posse of Mad Scientists. Each one of us had the prerequisite Arcane Background (Mad Science) and the Mad Science Skill at five. That is where we diverged. My character worked with the Collegium and created Bullet-Repellent Clothes. Another specialized in Artillery and had a 12-pound Vapor Canon as well as some Congreave Rockets. The Third one was insane and is our resident pilot and repairman (Metal Mage). The last one was the infiltraitor and alchemist. He had a made a Ghost Rock applique that he could use to alter his appearance adding +5 to Disguise checks.

Well anyway, the only time I played that character the following happened: The posse drove into town in a Steam Wagon. The Wagon failed its reliabity check and we were stuck.

Well to make a long story short, All of our devices failed their reliability cheacks at the same time: The Congrave Rockets spun around and exploded near out location. My bullet Repellant Clothes failed to deflect all 15 of the Shotgun blasts. The Infiltraitor's Applique failed and melted his face right off the bone and the Vapor Cannon blew up, igniting all the leftover Ghost Rock and weapons.

When this happened, our pilot got the wheel fixed.

>>54732659
Ghoultown is Deadlands music. When I was talking to Shane Lacey Hensely at a con a while ago, we got to talking about his canceled plans for a Deadlands MMO. (Digital rights are now owned by Syfy due to them fucking his company over hard with Stargate Universe) He said he had secured Ghoultown and Abney Park to provide the soundtrack. He was great to talk too.

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>>54735685
That's awesome. Related, did that incident change your opinion of the system?

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Just finished the Vertigo Jonah Hex stories, would recommend to anyone interested in Deadlands.

1.Two Gun Mojo
2.Riders Of Worm And Such
3.Shadows West

Is how i would rate them in quality.

>>54697977
I very much disagree. Classic to me feels more involved. Savage worlds is a simplified version of their war game "Great Rail Wars"

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>>54740319

I think the more streamlined SW version both keeps the feel intact perfectly, while also making the game play faster.

>>54726696
>Anybody got some good stories to share?
One time in a mostly solo game (my group is inconsistent as shit but my GM is flexible) my guy helped fight a bunch of bandits led by a werewolf.
After blasting down most of the bandits with a Winchester and my Schofield I saw the werewolf coming from my upper window perch and waited at the front door of the old house for him. He came in right through the front door and then I emptied a Sharps Big 50 right into the fucker right in his wolfy face which definitely ruined his day but didn't quite kill him.

So I bashed his skill in by two-handed swinging the butt of the big-ass rifle I just blew his eye out with.

>>54732659
To be fair, Wild Arms 1's field map theme was literally a remixed song from The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.

>>54713707
It's a Savage Worlds version set in the Film Noir 20's. I liked playing it but I like the movies and their feel. You trade the unpeopled wastes for the isolation of the city. The game I played lost some of the weird west aspects of the original, like no natives, no critters, and few infernal contraptions. We played essentially a detective story in the Big Easy with some Call of Chtulu touches. The mechanics and the background are solid, how much you enjoy it will depend on your skill at storytelling and using the thematic elements.

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Whats a good name for a shifty mining company, guys?

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>>54749054
Cain Excavators
Lone Wolf Minerals
Primordial Iron and Steel
Bone Creek Mining Company
Denver Ghost Rock, Etc.

>>54749054
Skrewum and Howe's mining Inc.
Big Nick's Diggers

>>54721096
Fuck yeah ravenous, I'm using the soundtrack for all my creepy encounters. My players are going to head to a mine and fight a huckster, his zombies and a 'Glom. I'm using the cave music to establish the ominous mythical shit.

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>>54750140

Skrewm & Howe's Mining Consortium it is.

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Keepin 'er goin'

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>>54753350

I have been collecting a lot of art. Had no idea there was such a wealth of wild west art out there.

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>>54693330

I once played a full-on Pacifist (-5) New Scientist. It was a terribly fun ride that only got better after he died.

The only two inventions I made were effectively an amber-polyurethane in a grenade-like canister that would then take I think a TN 9 strength check to bust out of. The second were a pair of moonshoes to help against falls and increase pace.

The real fun was finding things that were practical as a utility item, had some sort of us in combat, and still offer some way to go terribly wrong.

As I was also the resident sawbones, I also stole the idea of the Medic's medigun from TF2 and tried to apply the idea of electroshock therapy in the most Deadlands-y way possible to help the fellow New Scientists of Salt Lake City. Sadly, I never got around to making those before the game ended.

One of my characters has a good chance of getting hanged, I was thinking of having her come back as a harrowed. Would that cheapen the experience if I did that? Should I leave it up to chance like the book says? Just worried about Mary-Sue. It's their first quest and she's been playing up her bloodlust hinderance very well. Killing someone who was recently possessed and attacked the group, AFTER the priest healed him and the demon lost control. Priest believes it's cold blooded murder and wants to see her answer to the town sheriff/marshal. But in a corrupt town her chances aren't good. Marshall is on his way and I was planning on him being an enemy of hers, she has that hinderance as well. So her chances of getting hanged are fairly high if she's brought to officials.

>>54754241

It's random unless you have the thing that makes it a 100% chance. So yeah, yer cheatin' yer ass off if you don't have that, don't do that.

I want to run a Deadlands Noir game, but I don't really want to keep the Confederacy around. I'd still like there to be some major magical fallout left over from the supernatural civil war (contaminated warzones crawling with monsters, etc.) Any suggestions?

>>54754544
Fuck the setting and run it as Prohibition-era Men In Black.

One of the ships brought in something cursed to port. The dockworkers are getting spooked. Deal with it.

A vampire in the French Quarter has been siring people without approval. Find out who, they probably have a den, clean it out, BEFORE Mardi Gras.

>>54754753
>A vampire in the French Quarter has been siring people without approval. Find out who, they probably have a den, clean it out, BEFORE Mardi Gras.
I remember that Masquerade.

>>54754544
Why don't you like the Confederacy? I'd argue that a divided US is one of the most important parts of the setting fluff, for why events don't unfold as they do in real life.

>>54755061
Seems like 90% of Deadlands games don't bother with the confederacy stuff.

>>54755470
The Rangers are Confederacy, and a huge part of the setting. Also, much cooler (and easier to enter) than their Northern counterpart, the Agency.

>>54755470
>>54755061

Gonna guess the reason is IRL drama politics. To be fair, Deadlands kinda does suffer from a few problems that have to be handwaved away even by the books themselves because it's a really bad fucking idea to bring them up IRL unless you want to get into the sorts of discussions that piss everyone at the table off by bringing attention to it instead of just playing the game (ie: slavery, women's places in society then, indians and all the stuff that went down with them, etc). Hence why the books just quickly go "Oh, and uh...All the slaves were freed even by the south/women are equal/etc etc and all this is mostly accepted because we'd get fucking roasted otherwise if we don't allow this".

Though it did make me laugh the female player I have was like "waitaminute, this isn't very accurate...". Because she's a history buff.

Are the Deadlands Classic books a reprint of the 1996 rules, of the 1999 update, or a "third edition" of sorts? Been thinking about Marshallin' a game set in the Great Maze.

>>54755061
The drive to settle the west was a direct result of the vast upheavals that resulted from the end of the Civil War. If the Confederacy and Union are still at it, cold or otherwise, there is not enough young men or political drive to go west and form the cowboy towns.

>>54755973

Ghost Rock is supposed to be the answer to most of that. A reason for anyone to head out there, because you need that superfuel.

>>54755625
At the risk of /pol/ing a dead horse, slavery was doomed by industrialization. Better methods and equipment for farming would blow away chattel slavery in short order even without a martial settlement. The wannabe aristocracy of the South would have big, beautiful ghostrock-powered pickers and planters to do the work. With the nation split, there's no 3/5th compromise so no worries about being out-voted by the more populous North so you could dump your freedmen off wherever. No slaves means no slave revolts so Southern manpower could move from policing to border defense. Can't demobilize the Army with a long hostile land border, so ladies would be obliged to take a more active role in the Southern workforce. The North had much more foreign immigration so they'd be slower to equalize the sexes. The South would be smart to try and attract more immigrants to redress the imbalance of population which could be interesting depending on where they came from.
So while the war started over slavery, slavery need not last as long as the conflict or continue after it. Our Civil War was fought to a forced conclusion such the South could not resist reunification. If the neither side could so totally prevail over the other then I believe the nations would remain divided short of a European power invading the continent.

>>54756932

I meant more of "slavery" as a thing thats hard to bring up at the table because it either makes people uncomfortable because it's still such a hot topic even nowadays because politics and SJW garbage has thrust racism back to the forefront of "shit that gets people fighting", or you'll get some retard going "lol nigguhs".

Because lets face it, gamers are not the most socially adept folks.

>>54754241
Do whatever you think would make the game the most fun instead of being autistically unable to break from the listed rules.

>>54758671
Fuck those motherfucking pumas, I swear to Jesus.

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>>54758813
Now that I look at it... those guns seem to be poorly thought out.

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Which one would make a better baddie?

https://youtu.be/vVkDrIacHJM

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>>54758891
Well the Undertaker isn't a villain so...

>>54758943
No, but wherever he goes he raises the fear level considerably.

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>>54758963
True. But everything was the townspeople's and the Preacher's fault.

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So is anyone getting anything out of this picture dump of mine?
Any requests?

>>54759234

Less anime. It just doesn't fit the setting.

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>>54759474
Fair enough

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>>54759699

Thats pretty cool.

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>>54759764
I try to snag good Westerns art off /tg/ when I can

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>>54759785

I've found a lot by searching Google idly over the past few days. Theres honestly a lot of good western art out there that will fit, since almost any generic western piece works for the game.

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Just got my character wrote up for a game that's starting in a couple weeks, playing a smart-mouthed gunslinger named Tommy the Gun. How soon should I expect to be 6 feet under?

>>54760700
I can do you one better. I'm making a runaway farm boy named Zeke, with his loyal dog Dammit. Poor kid won't know what ate him.

>>54760700
>How soon should I expect to be 6 feet under?

Depends on your luck.

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>>54713707
I have run a session of Noir and my players found it great fun. >>54745059 sums it up fairly well but I will add that Noir is very much a game whose themes, at least in the core book, are very much reliant on less of a wild barely tamed land and more of the horrors that stalk the urban jungle. You could honestly do an intrigue and investigation heavy campaign as the book very much goes into detailing the strange intricacies within cities (ex. in New Orleans the French Quarter is pretty much run by the Italian Mafia who are at war with the Irish gangs and a local cabal of evil voodoo practitioners who were pushed out by the Mafia in the past.) and the complex relationship of groups that have existed around one another for decades.

>>54749054
Johnson and Son Excavations and Extractions.

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>>54753607
Got an interesting tale to tell?

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Has anyone done anything with Mexico in their campaigns? Anything further south than that?

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>>54768987

The current bit I just started up is running in Arizona. So there's a chance some mexicano's will appear at some point. But right now we're just starting, and I'm only GMing for one player.

>>54767798
Nothing too thrilling, but sure.

> Party consists of Southern Baptist Preacher, Muckraker Huckster, Billy the child, Old Greedy Prospector, and me, Catholic "DO NOT MURDER!" Mad Scientist

> Worst fear is to build anything that murders as demons whisper in my ears
> Party roughs it on horses, except for me. I had blown all my cash on chemicals and pieces for SCIENCE. Had a mule instead
> Preacher is out this session
> Party ends up trailed by a Jackalope
> Prospector eventually goes bust on Ridin' and displays the biggest shit-eating grin while asking "What could go wrong?"
> Bessy gets one way ticket to glue factory in the sky, forcing us to hide in cave
> Being a stuffy person, I go deeper in cave to change and get ganked by the jackalope
> Proceeds to eat my throat
> Posse shows up, can't shoot for shit
> Prospector finally nails the SoB. Marshal dumps something like a half dozen chips
> Jackalope runs away scot-free
> Bleed out
> hesdeadjim.jpg
> Party tosses some rocks on me and calls it a night
> Manitou starts her fun
> Manitou is /tg/'s dream, little girl who wants to stop badmen
> Breakdown in Hunting Grounds, build a gun and murder a man
> Come out even on Dominion somehow
> Next session
> Go bust on Dominion
> feelsbadman
> Wake up three days later in overalls and a straw hat. Have some loose change in my pockets and not much else.
> Somehow meet posse on the train we were heading to, call them out on their bullshit
> Huckster and Preacher are superstitious and suspicious
> Tell them I'm a doctor, I know what dead looks like and it ain't me
> Things go weird on train ride to the City O' Gloom.
> People go missing
> Strange sausage appears, staff think nothing of it
> soylentgreen.avi

Part 1/2

>>54767798
>>54770048

Part 2/2

Now, by this point, we had already faced one Wendigo twice over. The first time, we pissed ourselves and managed to run back to town safely. The second time, it took us blowing most of our chips and tricks to put it in boothill.

> Hear rumbling in the caboose
> See man change due to sausage
> Somehow no one fails guts checks
> Preacher, Prospector, Billy, and Huckster pull out every rifle and pistol they have
> Hit, Ace, Ace, Ace
> headshot
> Count first coup
> Neat, end of session?
> Nope, Manitou still doing Manitou things
> More people end up mutilated
> Preacher calls me out, threatens to put a bullet in my head
> Manitou in control threatens to throw self off train with Springboot invention to survive
> Not just me pulling shit, someone put ghost rock in the engine!
> Speeding into Salt Lake City, conductor gone missing
> Up to me to pull fuel from the fire to prove innocence
> Marshal plays https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHWdXIEcFNw as I rip chunks of ghostrock out of engine
> Last minute of song, slowly roll into the station
> End session

Sadly, the game only lasted another two sessions. I forget what the Huckster and Prospector were doing. Under the Manitou's control, I was trying to get on Hellestromme's good side and work under him. While we were all in town doing our own things, Billy ended up running into one of the Preacher's former, now-undead flock and was poisoned. Preacher ended up getting lost in Junkyard, surrounded by mechanical cats, and falling into the sewers. He died of dysentery.

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Anyone else like to use props?

>>54772673
Europoor here, I'd get in trouble for having bullet casings without gun permit.

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Never got to play Deadlands, was gonna join a game but couldnt due to time zones. Still remember the character I made thou.

Imagine the most stereotypical British gentleman you can think off. Who likes to "get stuck in with the lads" and has a great mustache! and says shit like "I say! What what!" and "Glory to England lads!" and used nothing but a longbow and a broadsword as weapons.

>>54772673
I actually plan on making a few of these for myself to help my group keep track of ammo. Just picked-up a couple dozen casings from a shooting yesterday in-fact.

>>54773978
>making a limey
>in Deadlands

You probably wouldn't have survived, given the brits did some shit no one likes in universe IIRC.

>>54774153
> picked up a couple dozen casings from a shooting yesterday
you live in Detroit or something?

>>54698193
I do. Unfortunately they are too long for one thread.

Fortunately, I made storytime threads about them awhile ago, and while they didn't get on sup/archive, I did find them on 4plebs.

https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/43419676/
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/45240164/

And best of all, my group picked the game up again! Not the same characters unfortunately, but still good.

>>54769429
What are your plans down there, Marshall? Ridin' through Tombstone?

>>54775507
What was it?

>>54779913
If I remember correctly they invade Michigan from Canada. Also they've infiltrated the Freemasons to break apart the US from within.

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Thinking of having a legendary campaign beginning, have some legendary level players fight Stone and get them killed. Essentially the players are the children of those characters who want revenge against Stone. It says that to kill him you need the bullets that he was betrayed with, where would be some good places to go looking for the bullets? I was going to have a few embedded in his back for sure, but I wanted a few more somewhere else.

>>54782642
While conceptually that could work, don't be afraid to pull shenanigans if the characters work their ass off for an alternative way to cap his ass.

For example, a story I heard about a group who made the ultimate anti-Reckoner holy bullet. Silver taken from the Rocky Mountains, which was given a Shamanic Blessing by Sitting Bull himself, blessed by a Jewish rabbi, a Catholic priest, and a Protestant minister. (There may have been other things I'm forgetting about)

They confront Stone with their one bullet of "Fuck You." And Stone, not realizing what they're packing, smirks and lets them have the first shot. They roll the damage which amounts to, "Fuck this guy."

DM smiles and spends a bunch of fate chips. "You missed."

One player immediately brings out a Legend chip. "Fuck that. It hits him right between the eyes."

And that was how some PC's managed to kill one of the worst mistakes ever made by a gaming company in the name of their fucking metaplot without following their railroad tracks.

Seriously, I find the concept of Stone annoying as fuck, and I think he was made by a That Guy on the writing staff.

>>54775796
I meant to say shooting "range". Sorry about the misunderstanding/potentially very dark breaking of the law.

>>54783178
>One player immediately brings out a Legend chip. "Fuck that. It hits him right between the eyes."

Some people may deride any kind of resource mechanic where the players can seize narrative/mechanical control without having to roll a single die but damn if it doesn't make for some perfectly just moments.

I don't mind a meta-plot to some degree (makes the world feel like it is still turning beyond what the PCs see) but I wonder why did the Deadlands team stick so very close to one path instead of offering a few branching options?

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>>54779898

Nah, just wrote up my own little town, by the name of Ratwater. Old mining boom town turned boom town once again by the recent discovery of ghost rock and s'more gold and silver in mines they thought was played out.

'Course, the mines are a thread for later. Right now my only player is a fresh deputy and trying to solve what might be a murder, might be an animal attack, and in reality, is both yet neither.

>>54783178
>And that was how some PC's managed to kill one of the worst mistakes ever made by a gaming company in the name of their fucking metaplot without following their railroad tracks.

As someone who really fucking hates "Overlord" NPC's who exist solely to fuck with players and serve as a hand of the GM (see: pretty much any old Vampire in VtM, The Lady of Pain in Planescap, etc), Stone I think was done right. How was he done right?

Because he specifically doesn't fucking bother with anyone but the best of the best. He is the end of the road, when you've done everything else and need a high tier antagonist to come fuck your day up. He doesn't show up out of nowhere just to jerk off on your day like the Lady of Pain with retarded rules, he doesn't influence the setting beyond a very specific circumstance, and he doesn't even know you exist until you're literally on the top OF the top of the 1%.

The ONLY bullshit part about him and the few opponents near his tier of "Holy fuck you gotta be really strong to deal with it" is that ALL of their fucking weaknesses, the only way to kill them, you're supposed to find out about...How? How the fuck is anyone supposed to know you need a fucking conquistador's weapon to kill raven? How the fuck are you supposed to know you need Grimme's fucking walking stick that was TOSSED INTO A FUCKING OCEAN MAZE like 20 years ago? Thats the only real complaint, their weaknesses are too fucking obscure, how are you supposed to learn about this stuff without a pure asspull?

Stone at least you can make him kill himself by making him set off a bunch of dynamite or something (the whole "can only be killed by the bullets that killed him originally, or a weapon fired by his own hand" thing).

>>54784393
The point of those weaknesses is that it requires an entire campaign just to learn about them. It's up to the DM to find out how to do that.
Demons love screwing over each other as much as mortals, and good spirits WANT to win, that's always a good angle for information.

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>>54784393
>>54784635
>have a spanish friend
>always says spanish people aren't white
>show him Raven's entry in the book
>always triggers the fuck out of him because it suggests the spanish conquistador's were white

>>54784393
The part that chafes my hide is how the metaplot is "All heroes die, Reckoners win" and the developers specifically wrote an adventure where the point was to kill Stone, but only ONE of him because timey-wimey shenanigans allowed there to be two of them running around. So even if you win that module; "But the future refused to change..."

You want to say, "The bad ending is the true ending." That's fine, we can still play our games and possibly have him come around as an ultimate showdown.

You don't even STAT him in the first edition, because then the characters can possibly kill him, and write a story SOLELY for the purpose of saying, "Fuck you, there's two of him, you solved nothing." And I call you a taint-sniffing cock-weasel. That's shitty railroading, right there.

Then again, I DO have an allergic reaction to that sort of thing, since it's the same thing that the ultimate That Guy pulled in the campaign from hell. (The BBEG was a DM self-insert, who pulled Doctor Doom "it was a stand-in" tricks with clones or "made copies" of whatever totally unique super weapon the players managed to destroy.)

>>54785663

I take it all a different way. Current Stone is actually 2nd chance Stone sent back to try and ensure shit goes off without a hitch. You're already in the 2nd timeline.

Hell on Earth is an optional game set where the 2nd timeline did end up losing.

tl;dr "Multiple timelines".

>>54782642

Fields of Gettysburg. You have to get to the scribe or the quartermaster or whoever kept the records from his platoon and find out where and when he was shot, and then start digging. Even then, you've still got a 2 in 3 chance that those are someone else's bullets, as Gettysburg was a hell of a battle.

Was it long enough ago in-universe for there to be re-enactors? That could be an interesting little diversion.

Or maybe you need to find the armory that supplied those bullets, a now-abandoned ironmill in the Jersey Pine Barrens that sold bog iron to the Rebs on the side.

Or, of course, one could simply travel back in time to get them on the day of the incident.

>>54785663
Wait wait, I HAVE The Devil's Tower Adventure. It specifically says THE GOOD GUYS WON, so the Reckoners used the last of their power to sent Stone back to try and change it. Also interesting to note that the Stones HATE each other, which is why they avoid each other when possible, and are only working together out of self interest. It even says something about being able to talk them into killing each other. Which works because "weapon fired by his own hand."
Meaning Hell on Earth is the timeline that managed to get changed, but the "real" timeline the Good Guys won. You can run it either way you want, but one makes for a much more interesting adventure setting.

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Bump for best deposed ruler (in a Deadlands timeline).

>>54790443

HEY! STONE'S A CHICKEN!

>>54779865
So those two stories were the only ones you had for that game?

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Hey guys, i plan on homebrewing a Dark Tower game, any advice?

>>54785663
>Then again, I DO have an allergic reaction to that sort of thing, since it's the same thing that the ultimate That Guy pulled in the campaign from hell. (The BBEG was a DM self-insert, who pulled Doctor Doom "it was a stand-in" tricks with clones or "made copies" of whatever totally unique super weapon the players managed to destroy.)

I know it isn't exactly on topic for the thread but got any interesting parts of that campaign you would care to share?

Does Reloaded follows old metaplot?

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>>54795196
More or less.

>>54779898

Not him, but I'm thinking of it. See, my posse's old hands at RP. They'll get through CC no problem. But as Marshal, I'm a bit of a greenhorn.

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>>54796140
Grateful you answered but curious as to how much Reloaded follows the metaplot as opposed to Classic.

What's your biggest complaint about Deadlands?
(other than metaplot fuckery) Mine is not really a complaint, but i don't think my players would be up to it, as they aren't the biggest western fans, still though, i think i could ease them in to it with Noir and HOE.

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>>54802455
So I only own reloaded and a couple of classic adventures. Though I played a very, very short classic Deadlands back in high school. From what I've seen and what little I remember, the metaplot is basically the same. Only a few minor changes here and there. None that stick out really.

>>54805146

How obscure a lot of creature weaknesses are. Thats pretty much my only real complaint. Some also might as well not have been bothered with (like Wendigo's weakness to hot tallow being poured down the throat, like, really? You gonna try to hold that thing down?)

>>54805395
tbf, a lot of irl mythological creatures have weird weakness, like the Fae with cold iron, vampires with a bag of rice, etc....

>>54805860

I know, but far as I know the wendigo's mythical weakness was just plain fire. I don't remember hot tallow down the throat being a thing.

Unless it is. Is it?

>>54805997
I think you gotta kill the guy inside of it.
>Some believe that the human person continues to reside within the Wendigo, specifically where its heart should be. This person is frozen, and the only way to kill a Wendigo is to kill the human within it as well. A few legends state that the frozen person is successfully rescued from inside the creature; in most cases, however, death is the only way to free a person from the Wendigo.
http://www.ancient-origins.net/unexplained-phenomena/be-wary-wendigo-terrifying-beast-native-american-legend-insatiable-hunger
irl anyway.

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Post irl Deadlands characters

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Fiddler
Pic somewhat unrelated, it's his son (he himself was never photographed.)

>>54805997
>>54806035
Both wrong guys, I'm sorry.

Deadlands Wendigos, all three different types, have the same weakness of pouring hot tallow down their throats. And that is LITERALLY the only way to perma-kill them, otherwise they come back more pissed for than ever.

Oh, and the other two types of wendigo are white wendigos (bigger and meaner than the normal ones) and flying wendigos.

>>54791042
Unfortunately yes, even though we had one more adventure after that before the Indian's player cashed out of the game.

>>54794743
Look up That Guy or Mary Sue on suptg, there's three long threads deconstructing every available piece of that unholy train wreck.

For the most sheerly horrifying example, imagine having a DM who is using a(n orders of magnitude than the Emperor of Man) psychic self-insert as the BBEG, who could use out of character knowledge to thwart the players because the self-insert was reading the DM's mind.

And when the players called him out and said they wanted to try that too, his response was, "It only works between characters with psionic class-levels, and none of you are psychic in real life!"

>>54807280
I meant irl Wendigoag (that's apparently the correct way to pluralise Wendigo). I imagine if in-game, they used the irl way, it would have too easy.

>>54698193
Jeez. Im a terrible writer, but here goes.

>playing an aged mountain man who's had an encounter or two with the supernatural
>found a posse to run with after some interesting circumstances
>eventually heard rumors of a some creature coming out on the full moon
>I've trained for this(backstory is I fought a werewolf in the past)
>eventually run into man in the moonlight staking out a weird group setting up a massive amount of explosives.
>I raise my rifle to challenge him, but he welcomes the shot.
>drop rifle and grab giant lumbermans axe with a silver edge(belongin's 1 FTW)
>We rush each other and draw the exact same card for 2 turns straight.
>We meet blow for blow for a few rounds before he manages to scamper off.


Best I got, it was really epic at the time. I was the only one who could really do any damage to him since the rest of the posse were just gunslingers and a Doc.

>>54807841
Had a similar-ish situation in my campaign, though the crazy bastard and his "protege" weren't related to the main badguy of the module at all. Plus, we didn't have an epic square off, because I had a flamethrower and the others had Gatling shotguns. Werewolf hamburger, mm-mm-Mmm!

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>>54693330
Oy, made the Counting Coup list I talked about. Could only get the Marshals book and the two Rascals, Varmints, and Critters books,and some others, so if I missed any from the modules or other splatbooks, let me know.

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Oh hey, I found this thing on Stone, when he showed up in Reloaded.

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>>54807189
>Post irl Deadlands characters

Liver-Eating Johnson. His wife was killed by the Crow, so he killed three hundred of them and ate their livers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver-Eating_Johnson

>One tale ascribed to Johnson was of being ambushed by a group of Blackfoot warriors in the dead of winter on a foray to sell whiskey to his Flathead kin, a trip that would have been over five hundred miles (800 km). The Blackfoot planned to sell him to the Crow, his mortal enemies, for a handsome price. He was stripped to the waist, tied with leather thongs and put in a teepee with only one, very inexperienced guard. Johnson managed to break through the straps, then knocked out his young guard with a kick, took his knife and scalped him, then quickly cut off one of his legs. He made his escape into the woods, surviving by eating the Blackfoot's leg, until he reached the cabin of Del Gue, his trapping partner, a journey of about two hundred miles (320 km).

>>54805395
>>54806035
>>54807280
so forgive me if they have some kind of supernatural meat detection that I don't know about, but couldn't you trigger this by rigging up a scarecrow made of tallow with some blood to attract it, then set the thing on fire while the Wendigo is eating?

Hell, could you torch the thing to death while it chokes on a body till the fat renders down? grisly sure, but I figure your players will have a fair bit of grit if they're trying to take down a wendigo.

>>54808186
>reads blurb

So did they ever say who the first Harrowed was?

>>54809090
I believe it's the Cackler. And the prevailing theory on who the Cackler is Mordred, King Arthur's son.

>>54809197

Got a write up on it? I want to read it.

>>54810504
The theory, i admit, it's not much to go on. But here goes

>He's basically European Stone
>Cackler is the oldest known Harrowed
>he is English and very old
>his mom is a witch
>his mother is also related to the Wheatley clan, maybe even being the source of it's unusual features
>His age,parentage,nationality and Deadland's tendency to spice up irl figures,spawned the theory of him being Mordred

There is also a graphic novel about him, it came out 2 years ago.

>The first harrowed is not Jesus Christ

Jesus Christ, how could you fuck that up?

>>54811090
Too obvious, also might offend Christians, remember this was in the 90s, right off of the satanic panic.

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So my mad scientist character decided to make "The Syringe that Should Not Be", to inject a tincture form of Ghost Rock into one of the other party members. It did not go well, but science is a messy business and you cannot make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.

>>54811090
>>54812554
To be fair Jesus would be too obvious and kind of diminish the strangeness of the setting in addition to being controversial similar to why White Wolf refuses to have any supernatural faction be a reason/big player in WWII or 9/11.

How do party interactions usually work in Deadlands? Too much shit trying to eat them all to allow for typical white knight/ That Guy infighting, I hope?

I don't want to say too much in case someone else is reading this, but a new player in our group wants a character that shouldn't need any weapons because it can kill with the edge, while another plays everything like a paladin.

Should be good for storytime later at least.

>>54816617

Well, given how Savage Worlds works, just treat it like a typical RPG party. Just don't be afraid to drop the hammer when you think they're too much.

>shouldn't need any weapons because it can kill with the edge

I want to know more.

>another plays everything like a paladin.

Lawman with the Arcane Background [Blessed].

>>54811044
Wasn't that the guy they wanted to include as a "main" metaplot villain until they realized that his powers were so bullshit that he wasn't fun to play against?

>>54818768
Yes and no, he was hyped up really hard, like he was it was the second coming or something, in the adventure he first showed up in, it was suggested that the Marshal not actually show him, saying they had big plans for him (they didn't stat him either). He was never brought up again, other than in his graphic novel.

Where can i download all pdf`s for Reloaded and Noir.

>>54819110

From pinnacle's web site after paying them 'bout $40.

>>54820559
What `bout torrents, pardner?

>>54823652

You'll have to rustle them cattle yerself pardner, we don't want no invitations to a necktie party 'round here.

>>54809019
Don't know about the fire bit, but I'm looking at the Marshal's handbook right now on Wendigos.

Only attracted to human meat, so maybe the scarecrow with human blood can work, because the precise wording is that a Wendigo dies "The Instant" that hot tallow is poured down it's throat. So rigging up a proverbial waterballon of melted fat in a scarecrow should work.

One funny thing to note, baseline wendigo's have a Mien (charisma) stat of 4d12.

Then you see it's overawe (intimidation) is 7d12, and the rules for tests of will are as follows:

Overawe is resisted by the targets Guts.
A success makes the victim Unnerved, which means they take a -4 on their next action.
A raise makes them shaken, which means they lose their highest action card on top of being unnerved, or lose any card they have up their sleeve.
2 raises, and they're Broken too. Unnerved, Shaken, and the Marshal draws a white fate-chip from the pot.

Fucking hell that's nasty.

Huh, rules for creating wendigos...

If a PC has to eat human flesh for some reason, secretly roll a d20, add 1 for every new victim after the first, add 2 if this happens in winter. On 20 or higher, they become a wendigo.

White Wendigo's are made if the person eats their friends and/or family, and Flying Wendigo's are made from food MISER's rather than cannibals. Roll d20 anytime the character hides food from a companion and let's them starve to death, add 1 for every additional victim when/if they do it again.

>>54824227
>Fucking hell that's nasty.

Creatures in Deadlands usually are. Also thats the old rules for it, not the SW/Reloaded ones. Not like the Savage Worlds one is any less nasty though.

>>54816617
>How do party interactions usually work in Deadlands? Too much shit trying to eat them all to allow for typical white knight/ That Guy infighting, I hope?

Imagine old pulp stories where the main characters can loathe each other but tend to manifest this as bickering and will always pull together when the scrappin' starts.

Honestly the likelihood of inter-party conflict isn't tied to the system so much as it will be tied to the players in your game and their attitudes. If your paladin type wants to redeem every monster and that guy is set to shoot everything dead they are going to need to make some conceits out of character to not let it affect the game too much or else you are in for an aggravating time partner. Good luck.

>>54824227
>>54825254

Noir has something less nasty but still just as awesome: Hydes.

During Prohibition when bootlegging was all the rage some ding-dongs decided to try selling some of their bathtub booze on the novelty of it bein' filtered through ghost rock to give it a little extra kick. Boy did they underestimate what they did since when some poor sap drinks this "red rum" they become afflicted with a little condition that makes them flip their lids and turn into giant hulkin' monstrosities whenever they're feeling spun out.

Shaking them twice does nothing, their Strength is a d12+2, and any Wild Card who finds themselves transformed retains their Wild Card status.

Just found out about this game when my family wanted to start playing a new game and wanted to try Western. My brothers are hype after finding about the poker mechanics and stuff, they love that shit. I already got the Player's Guide and bought the Marshall's Guide from Pinnacle.

Also I'm sorry if this is a taboo or something (I'm not a /tg/ regular so don't know), but I tend to prefer using the pre-made adventures, at least until we've done enough of those and feel confident enough trying to do something homegrown. What are the best ones for Classic? I've read a little and both Devil's Tower and the trilogy of like Ghostbusters/Rain of hell/Dead Presidents or whatever sound good, but they both were also described as designed for experienced posses. What's a good adventure from Classic to throw the posse into after, say, coming fresh out of the starter adventure in the Marshall's Giude?

Also if anyone happened to know a link to most of the sourcebooks for Classic (similar to the previous link I see a helpful anon posted for Reloaded/Savage Worlds), I'd certainly appreciate it. Sorry for taking up your time.

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>>54828371
Check page 27

>>54828670
Hot damn. Thanks much pardner.

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What are some cool character inspirations in your own campaigns?

I was going to have pic related be an owner of a small plantation/mining town in the Maze.

>>54830969
I'm thinking of having the Kid from Blood Meridian show up once or twice. And a pc based off of the old drunk (before he got old and drunk) from Shadows Over Innsmouth (Zadok Allen)

So I am planning on running a deadlands game some, which is better first edition core or reloaded?
I am planning on basing it on blood meridian, the part would be in Texas, around the border going hunting for scalps. What advice might you have for running the game?

>>54832927

As someone who's played both, Reloaded. Pretty much no reason not to go Savage Lands/Reloaded. It's just plain faster to play, and keeps pretty much everything the previous versions had.

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>>54832927
>blood meridian

What will go between Good Intentions and Noir?

Or will they skip straight to Deadlands Reloaded: Lost Colony, and the final part of the entire 20 year metaplot?

>>54833305
Screw that, I want them to re-release all the old adventures in Savage Worlds.
Whole game 1876-2XXX

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Thank the Almighty for this thread. Deadlands has been a system I've come back to again and again since I got the Reloaded book back in aught 6.

Once in awhile, I can cajole people into a session or two (Prairie Tick infestations are hilarious btw) but more often than not, in my circles I'm the only who digs on westerns enough to be fired up about the game/setting.

>tfw when you have/backed all the plot point campaigns and no one will let you do Flood BBQs

>tfw when you back Noir and get an NPC made with your likeness, but no one even talks shit about your shitty hitman.

Noir also scratches some fun itches, but for some reason "Fighting mobsters and monsters" doesn't sell folks like it should in my opinion. Fuck everyone wanting to do stupid D&D shit.

>>54833137
>>54833079
Any advice on how to incorporate the themes from blood meridian into the story. Was thinking of sending the party out hunting for Comanche and along the way the encounter a figure like Judge Holden, but only in passing, maybe have him be a herald of disaster, always appearing just before everything goes to shit for the party.

Any more general advice running a Deadlands game, unfortunately I am not incredibly familiar with the western genre, my experience mainly being Blood Meridian, the Son, 3:10 to Yuma remake, the hateful 8 and Django unchained. any advice in the regards well?

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>>54833651

Honestly, those are some really good reference points for Westerns.

My advice is have the party going out hunting, only to have something be hunting them. They find animals and/or people "Savaged" by Comanches, only to find the Comanches later and either avoid the posse or surrender quickly to withdraw as an evil is drawing close to the posse and they want no part of it. Just all these things to ratchet up the tension.

Basically, take story out on the wilderness and give it at least 2 explanations, the rational and the supernatural. Don't let the players figure out which one it should be until close to the end (Or as a midpoint twist) make the characters doubt their sanity, until it's well and truly gone.

Not necessarily Western tips, but hope that helps. I find the X-Files approach works well for drawing people in.

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Well good job guys. I was thinking about running a western game, googled about that, found Deadlands, came here. Now I have 3 gigs of deadlands shit and am up to my elbows in roll20 content too.

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>>54833651
Those are all good Westerns, but I'd argue that The Good, The Bad, and the ugly is the best Western ever made. You should watch that one as well.

>>54833651
>maybe have him be a herald of disaster, always appearing just before everything goes to shit for the party.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVkDrIacHJM

>>54833621
Hey I'm sold on the concept since for some reason Great Depression + almost anything else allow me to explore all the themes that interest me.

>tfw when you back Noir and get an NPC made with your likeness, but no one even talks shit about your shitty hitman.

You mean that patent scientist assassin that hijacks peoples' bodies and makes them commit his crimes while believing himself to be the only sentient person? I really liked that guy just haven't found a good chance to plug him in yet...

>>54838223

Nah, I'm the hitman that moonlights as a jazz player.

>>54839791
Well then good news Jazzman, I actually have a reason to work your character into my game. Currently the PCs are grunts working for the Black Hand. They recently made a discovery that will put them in the middle of a war between the Red Sect and the Black Hand where I feel the Jazzman could come into play easily.

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>>54840196

You know just what to say to warm a guy's blackened little heart anon. Let me know how it goes!

So how would you run a campaign in the maze? From what it seems in the Marshall's handbook almost all of the land is owned by miners with all the waters belonging to either confederates or possibly Kang's soldiers. just seems like there's not a lot of territory that isn't trespassing.

>>54843389
The maze strikes me as that way intentionally. You ain't going in there unless you're already hard as fuck and able to handle some really bad situations.

Especially because, while I haven't read the books for the full mechanics on this shit, Father Grimm of Lost Angels did a massive ritual that causes all non-followers of his to look demonic and evil if they are Blessed/Hucksters/Shamans/Harrowed and within a couple hundred miles of his city.

And somewhere in the maze is the only thing that can kill him, the walking stick belonging to the original Father Grimm, since the current one is a bullshit imposter after the first one got eaten alive by his psychotic flock.

Hence, Maze is full of shit that is "do not enter, ever" unless you're REALLY prepared and high-leveled.

>>54843389
If you are going to do anything with the Maze, I would highly recommend reading the book that focuses on it. I think it's The Flood?

Anyway, it contains rules specifically for being in the Maze, as well as the supernatural shit that happens when you step into Famine's domain. It's very cool.

>>54843790
>>54843704
Thanks guys I was debating starting off a party there but I feel like I'm going to start off east and head deeper west as they level up.

>Reading through some of this Deadlands meta stuff
>These NPC's are off-limits, DO NOT LET YOUR PC'S KILL THEM, EVER
>We're not even gonna give them stats.
>Also no matter what your party does, it's all pointless because the bad guys have to win so you can buy our sequel game

Well this just bummed me out. I'm not a big downer ending person. It really has killed my excitement for starting a full campaign if I can't even have the possibility of these guys reaching the highest heights and finishing the whole thing when they're done with the setting by defeating the Servitors and stopping the Reckoning once and for all. Has anyone before gone "fuck you" to these rules and destroyed the servitors anyway?

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>>54845793

Are you reading the older books or something like muliple people in this thread have said not to in lieu of going for the Savage Worlds versions? They're all statted up in Reloaded. Damned fucking hard to kill, but doable by high experience parties.

>>54845989
I'm doing the older books because the people I'm playing with insisted - they want to play Classic. Nice to hear they have been statted. I have a conversion table so I can always use that I suppose.

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>>54846018

Ahh, well, good luck man. Still, if I was the one running stuff, I'd have made them switch. It's a lot smoother overall, having played both versions.

>>54846049
The people I play with are all my brothers, so making a selfish stink about wanting to go against them would be a bad strategic move, and I was outnumbered, so I couldn't really "make" them switch. Also part of it is that I had already sunk money into buying some of the Classic books before I even knew Reloaded still had a lot of the stuff they insisted on Classic for (the poker cards handling almost everything), so I didn't want to switch to Reloaded and feel like I wasted my money.

If it comes down to it we'll find other ways to make it easier. Sure we'll have a hell of at ime

>>54846152
You can buy every physical reloaded book for.... I think under $120.

>>54846152
Or, you could say "Fuck that." And have them beat the Reckoners.

Something my friends brought up when I was bitching about Jasper-DMPC-from-hell-Stone is that he was sent back in time because in one possible future, the Reckoner's got their shit pushed in and had to do a last resort Terminator "Sent back in time" thing.

If you're DMing, you could totally have the campaign NOT end in a literal or metaphorical TPK due to the end being the same no matter what the PC's do.

You're the DM. The Game has given you a guideline, but YOU'RE the one who lays down the railroad tracks.

Also, while I'm thinking about it.
>>54807999
I went through over a dozen adventure modules looking for other Counting Coup powers. LITERALLY the only other one I found is from some Anasazi elder. (I used ctrl F and the word coup so I don't know all the details) A harrowed who kills him gets the Soul Eater power or upgrades it a notch. (As opposed to the monster I already listed that just gives it to you if you don't already have it.)

So, barring a change in the other books, it looks like my cheat-sheet is the ONLY canonical coup powers for Deadland's classic. I'll keep looking.

>>54846591
Disregard that, just realized some of the PDF's are fucked so I can read the text, but ctrl F can't. Now double-checking, such fucking fun.

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>>54843704

Slight correction. The Bloody Sunday ritual was so Grimme and his follower's powers look like Divine/Blessed Miracles anywhere within 75 miles of Lost Angels, or in a bubble around pieces of his shattered altar that his missionaries tote around the West (Otherwise, it'd be black magic shit, and he can't do that look pious, can he?)

The Maze is a tough place, but not impossible for low level characters, I very much recommend looking up the Flood as it's got a great intro for players and gives you a good idea of the run of the Maze. If you're posse can't have fun charging the Mexican army and beating Santa Ana with his own leg, I don't why you would play with them.

>>54846264

Shit, you can get the newest Savage Worlds edition, and both Deadlands books for it for like sub $50. I can't even get some single RPG books for less than $50.

Don't want this thread to die since I'm not sure when another one will start up.

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Can anybody come up with an interesting campaign from this pic?

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Anybody have any good Harrowed ideas or stories?
>pic very much related

>>54850717

The Wampum Injuns have gone hog wild scalpin' the white man, and now have set their sights on the dying "boom" town of Syphillis Valley. Little did they know it was 'cause of them Wampum Injuns bein' set up by Burnface McScowler, angered cowboy what was done wrong by those Injun's in a horrible peace pipe accident.

Now Hell's come Syphillis Valley, can you stop the Wampum-Or convince'em it was all a trick in the first place?

>>54850717
Hmm, a cruel, zealous Indian fighter is hired to fuck up the party because they fucked with someone important.

>>54850731

I'll say old 50's comics (EC comics?) probably have a lot of material, given there were a lot of cowboy and horror styled stuff back then.

>>54850710
Oh man, that game was so bad. Driving was taken whole hog from Halo.
I played it like three times.

Thanks for reminding me to preorder the 20th anniversary edition.

I remember some previous Savage Worlds thread had a good houserule nerf for shotguns. What was it?

I just played a Deadlands one-shot, and a double-barreled shotgun proved capable of ruining anything's shit, no exceptions. Two barrels makes 6d6 dice. Most of the time we didn't even bother adding them all up.

So we're starting to play Classic (We'll probably give Reloaded a try later on after we go through most of Classic). We're the kind of people that tend to mostly do the set adventures and such.

The problem I have is there doesn't seem to be a good way of telling how fit each adventure is for a party based on experience. We're really only used to D&D before this, where adventures always said "For Level 4-6 party" or something like that.

The closest I see on this in these Deadlands adventures is just a few saying "For experienced adventurers". But how do I determine that? The only one I found that has a flat-out suggestion of experience is Dead Presidents stating a party should already have 5 Grit (which to me just seems to mean that they should have already done at least 5 adventures before this one?)

So p much what I'm trying to decide is which adventures are best fitting for a posse that's just starting out (after the "Comin' Round the Mountain" adventure in the Marshal's Guide). I eventually want to build them up to what I've read elsewhere are really good adventures (Devil's Tower Trilogy, and Ghost Busters/Rain o' Death/Dead Presidents), but I don't know how much other adventures they should be doing before they're "experienced" enough to handle either of those trilogies, or which adventures ARE "appropriate" for beginner/novice posses. Any help would be much appreciated, sorry for taking up your time.

>>54853906

That changes once you start getting into shit that can't reasonably be damaged by normal weaponry due to resistances or outright immunities.

>>54855664
I can only speak for Reloaded (in which 5 grit is a ridiculous, epic badass amount), but it's not really level based, in the D&D sense of everything getting linearly stronger with the players.

A typical novice-level encounter in Deadlands pairs the players with one or two standard enemies, like a zombie, bandit, etc each. Wild cards and things with insane toughnesses or special weaknesses are probably meant to be ganged up on, while obviously weak enemies are meant to outnumber the players.

Also, TPKs and player deaths are going to be pretty common. That's okay.

Specifically, look at Don't Drink the Water, and Guess Who's Coming to Donner. Simple, short adventures with no historical figures and titles that give away the twist.

>>54782642
Stone and a Hard Place says the doctor that treated him as he died/reanimated kept the bullets in a jar and fled to the Louisiana swamps.

>>54850710
Conceptually, it had its moments. The pseudo bayonets on every gun were neat and my Mad Scientist character is thinking about doing that to basic armament in our DL game. Along with creating the rifle equivalent to a sawed off shotgun that can be hidden under longcoats/overcoats.

For those who aren't in the know Dark Watch: Old West train robbery ends up being an ancient vampire instead of money, MC is vamped and then forced to join a vampire hunting group. Google image search the weapons of the game, they're pretty bitchin'. And the Sniper Rifle is Sororitas approved.

>>54858136
>Dark Watch: Old West train robbery ends up being an ancient vampire instead of money, MC is vamped and then forced to join a vampire hunting group.

Doesn't the game also span like 3 different eras?

Are there any Deadlands like vidya?

>>54861996
Deadlands lands somewhere between Red Dead Redemption and Borderlands 2.

>>54861996
Red Dead Redemption: Undead Nightmare

>>54861996

Mad Dog Mcree for a murderhobo campaign.

Sunset Riders for the best mexican gunslinger ever

>>54861996
Hard West is a pretty good one.

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>>54837211 here.
I had some questions about Deadlands classics.

How does dynamite work exactly? How many actions to light it and throw? How long til it goes off if it doesn't prematurely detonate?

Do you roll for stun for PCs and enemies whenever they take a wound or do you ignore it?

What penalty do you give for being wounded in different areas, or as a result of successful called shots? If I take a called shot at someone's knee, do they fall prone and then move at a limp, or just mark wounded in the knee section of the character sheet. How about an eyeball shot at -10? I just follow common sense "realism" here, right?

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Give me your best wild west prostitutes or huckers, /tg/. I got an NPC that's both.

downloaded a bunch of the free one shots from their website, looking forward to running my characters through it.