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Since im gonna try and start anew, would this still be a good color scheme or should I try for something else?

>>53238538
I think that's something already in use, or very close to a canon Chapter. And even if it's not, blue and white always winds up looking like an Ultramarines successor in any case.

That said, I tend to be very harsh about color scheme standards.

>>53238538
I like it, I think the colours complement eachother fairly well. The question is do they already represent your legion's character, are the colours disconnected from them or are they chosen in complete opposition?

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>>53238307
>[President Félix] Faure died suddenly from apoplexy in the Élysée Palace on 16 February 1899, while engaged in sexual activities in his office with 30-year-old Marguerite Steinheil.
>George Clemenceau's epitaph of Faure, in the same trend, was "Il voulait être César, il ne fut que Pompée" (another wordplay in French; could mean both "he wished to be Caesar, but ended up as Pompey", or "he wished to be Caesar and ended up being blown": the verb "pomper" in French is also slang for performing oral sex on a man);

>>53238538
I'm thinking I could make them focus more on small scale fights, something similar to a group of 3-4 and they somewhat choose out a group to target, and duel with them (not solely melee dueling but also small fire fights). Any terminators or dreadnaughts are equipped with atleast one shield and are meant to hold back anything that would tip the scale of the "duels" too far.

>>53236844
I was going to go into Mot's meeting with the Emperor later. I just wanted to go over his life on Zharr-Naggrund and establish him as a total hardass. As for the ruling regime of Zharr-Naggrund, it's similar to classical greece, I suppose, in that each city-state has its own form of government and they're largely independent. At one point I was going to make it not!athas, but I don't know how viable that is anymore.

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>>53238307
>Name
Chosen of Hecate

>Primarch
Lambach Kropor, Master of the X Legion. Powerful psyker. Prefered weapon is a Power Spear.

>Allegiance
Traitor - Nurgle.

>Personality
Value is placed on age and retaining the wisdom of the ancients.
Both a capable fighter and psyker but easily outclassed by the best of both classes( Sanga / Angron or Magnus)
Lambach can combine the two arts to place him on even or superior footing with most of his brothers.
Is well liked by most of the other Primarchs, and often found in good humour.
Primarchs like Morty and Russ would still consider him a hated abomination because of his witchery.
Believes that Big E plans to use Psykers as the way of the future and is super loyal to the cause.
Lambach is shattered after the Edict of Nikeea and questions everything he thought he knew bout the ruler of mankind.

>Tactical Specialty
As so much emphasis is placed on venerating the ancients the chapter makes more use of Dreadnaughts.
Heavily armed dreads are employed in place of Devastators or Assault marines.
Squad leaders are usually but not exclusively psykers and referred to as "Warpclaws" who favor the same weapon as the primarch.
Not uncommon for detatchments to be lead by a captain or Librarian dread.

>Thematics
Greek. The chapter symbol would be a key with crossed candles behind.

>Colors
Bleached Bone with Black trim, robes are often dark green

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>>53238780
I actually started a 5 man squad to see what they'd look like, I may use them as a shadow war team.

>Historic / Defining Moments
Lambach landed on a world that was basically Athens the entire world over.
He was raised in the temple that takes care of the dead. Dedicated to an ancient god Hecate.
Once found by his father he discovered that earlier heavy losses had reduced his legion to a few thousand marines.
This, combined with his past led to him "recycling" marines in the form of Dreads far more often than any other Primarch.
He strongly opposed the edict of Nikeea and felt betrayed by his father when it passed.
He began heading further out in the crusade than ever before as he refused to give up his sons gifts and wished to hide this fact from prying eyes.
At some point he lost all the members of his inner circle / closest sons, beyond the point of using Dreads to raise them.
So he used his psykic powers to a far greater extent than ever before to return thier souls to thier bodies.
However the spell didn't work properly and the returned were basically Zombie marines. Also the use of such a strong and foul spell caught the atttention of Daddy.
Russ (or his equivelent in this setting) was sent to destroy the Chosen and bring Lambach to the Emperors palace.
Having been so far removed there had been little in the way of resupply or new recruits so the Chosen were completely outclassed.
Lambach asked the warp gods for help in escaping. Both Tzeentch and Nurgle answered.
Lambach preferred what Nurgle had to offer and accepted his help.
Tzeentch was fairly upset by this and cursed the Lambach and the chosen as vermin.
This resulted in the once pure geneseed becoming tainted and the marines slowly taking on the appearence of rats (Rats are Kecates chosen familiar so this is to keep with thier background a bit).
By the time the Chaos Warmaster declared Lambach, with no other options was in full support of his traitor brother.

>>53238824
>Kecate

Not sure if typo or frogposter. :P

>>53238933
Typo sorry, I noticed it as the upload hit like 99% and cbf changing it lol, my bad.

>>53238780
Also it looks like 10th legion has been filled since I last checked, I'd be happy to fill one of the other spots?

>>53239013
I think you're reading the image wrong. Legion V is filled, Legion XV has a tenative name but not an image, and Legion XX is filled, but as far as I can tell Legion X is still open.

>>53239207
Legion X is the smoke stalkers
Legion XIX is still free though

>>53238824
>Lambach asked the warp gods for help in escaping. Both Tzeentch and Nurgle answered.
>Lambach preferred what Nurgle had to offer and accepted his help.
>Tzeentch was fairly upset by this and cursed the Lambach and the chosen as vermin.

I like this part quite a bit.

>marines slowly taking on the appearence of rats

I hate this with the fire of a million Imperial suns.

Don't make Horned Rat Marines, don't make Furry Marines, don't make Skaven squeak-squeak man-thing Marines. It just ain't a good idea.

So here's how the cookie's crumbling (very nicely I must say) so far

>Loyalists:
- the Golden Mountains (I don't even know if that guy is still around though. It's a cool idea)
- the Silver Blades
- The Sentinels
- the Symphonious Disciples
- the Quaestor's Wardens

>Separatists:
- the Death's Heads
- the Host of Purity
- the Smoke Stalkers
- the Iron Guard
- the Pale Hounds

>Chaos Traitors:
- the Gunslingers
- the Chosen of Hecate
- the Loxodontii
- the Forge Lords

>Undecided:
- the Leviathan Host (don't know if this guy is still around)
- the Steel Souls
- the Pillars of Balance
- the Spears of Dawn

I like how this is all going so far. We just need to work on our fluff and our primarch's reasons for going where they're going, and then establish the warmasters for each faction

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>>53239398
>- the Leviathan Host (don't know if this guy is still around)

I've been busy these last few days, Mother's Day and all, but I check in on the threads without posting.

>>53239443
Oh no worries man, keep doing what you're doing

>>53238704
These guys are probably gonna be the slannesh legion if the mist dudes arent gonna

>>53239240
I had no real intention of them being furry squeak squeak, more along the lines of master splinter I guess. Wise, not like skaven.
I like nurgle but don't like the way plague marines look so figured rats tied both to Hecate and to plague bringing.

>>53239398
>the Leviathan Host
Why does this sound familiar?

>>53239629
>master splinter

Cowabunga, but that's not any better lol.

Also I'm pretty sure any servant of Nurgle eventually winds up a pustule-ridden sack of nastiness. He doesn't really give people much choice in the matter.

If you're really going to curse them as "vermin", at least commit to it and make them a mixture of bats, bugs, slugs, spiders, rats, termites, etc. All that good shit we hate instinctively when it crawls on us.

I get the Hecate = Rat thing, but do you *really* want to be Space Yiffs 2.0?

>>53239784
Look on the bright side. Slannesh didnt curse them.

>>53239784
I like it. Squeak squeak bitches.

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>>53239240
What happened to the Horned God?

>>53239784
I see your point, I could add some insect bits ect I have a few old spawn sprues lying around I could use, to make insects ect.
On the other hand saying Splinter is no better than being a furry makes me sad.

>>53239846
If you're just doing the Hecate thing because you happen to have some rat-marines available, then go ahead. It doesn't really bother me. I'm not trying to bust your balls here.

>>53239962
All good bro, constructive criticism is nice, personally would prefer to stick with the rat theme but I see where you are coming from too.
Was just commenting on a simpler time when you could like Splinter without being a furry lol

>>53239398
>- the Golden Mountains (I don't even know if that guy is still around though. It's a cool idea)
Still here, sorry. I swear today I get something ready.

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>>53242074
>I swear today I get something ready.
>Hektor Heresy/Imperium Asunder flashbacks

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>>53242275
Whoops, didn't notice the caption at the bottom.

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>>53242275
>>53242317
I DO have something in progress, just working on it and reorganizing some ideas that don't seem as viable while putting thought to word.

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What about setting up the relations between the Primarchs? I think that we have enough to start.

Like, Linares, Isehko and Pacha are friends, but Einchurt, Des Chain and Linares don't get along very well.

We still have to fill some gaps and name some Primarchs, but we can start.

>>53243169
*The Silverish Guy reporting for duty

>>53239398
Oi, why aren't the Titan Marchers on there?

>>53243169
I'm not sure if we have enough information to go on. Right now we have nearly all the Primarchs settled, but I do not feel like I know what the others are like.

Maybe we should start using PROMPTS? Worked very well for IA…

PROMPT: Your Primarch meets one of his brothers for the first time. What does the brother first notice about your Primarch?

>>53238824
Didn't we decide that the nurglings become beautiful in this universe???

>>53243591
Good idea! But yeah...we don't have enough info yet

>>53243591
I'm happy to have Lambach be pretty friendly woth almost everyone with 1 or 2 that just done't gel with him or down right dislike him. Any one willing to work with me on that aspect?

Also I am considering dropping the Rat man aspect, it seemed like a cool idea to make them unique when I thought of it but now I'm not sure if it is a bit assburgers.
I'd be happy to put it to a vote with the other guys making legions. If enough think I should keep it I will otherwise might scrap it?

>>53243591
My answer: The first physical thing one of his brothers would notice about Raj is his large turban, then his large bushy beard. Once they start talking, the other would notice that Raj is a jolly man, laughing heartily and seeming genuinely interested in his new friend's tales. If the conversation switched to more serious, Crusade-related talk, he would put on a different face. One that takes his duties very seriously and thinks very logically.

Raj is a good and genuine listener, who is often quite jolly in his demeanor, but would never joke about his work.

If the brother managed to antagonize Raj by being consistently disrespectful towards him or one of his underlings, the calm and kind Raj would make way for an explosive one. Suddenly loud and bombastic, Raj would bellow at his brother, refusing to take any shit.

>>53243934
The idea behind the prompts is that you answer them for your Primarch, that way the others gain a point of reference.

>>53244059
I'm willing to help you where I can.

Not a fan of having them be straight up rats though, furries need not apply. Nothing wrong with animalistic mutations though, tails, horn, furs. Not straight up furrification, just beastly mutations.

Alright, here we go, Golden Mountains
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jmtUpQZtG0DBNNTKFTm0r02rRDEX3DOeEmc0D_X_tC0/edit?usp=sharing

>>53244322
Aight cool. Shame you posted it the moment I sat down for work.

I'll read it as soon as possible and give you my feedback.

>>53244199
Oh, sorry.

So, for Linares:

When first encountered, Linares seems like a gigantic, rude-looking and unshaved man. Talking with him will show up that he is a cheerful and friendly man, of easy laughter and good sense of humour, albeit a little bit dark. His irony and sarcasm may show up, too. The trolling part comes with confidence. If you switch to a more serious topic, like battles, tactics and strategies, he will talk with the confidence that experience and study gives, while maintaining his cheerful character.

He knows how to listen, but loves to speak, too. He may take lightly a catastrophic lose of his Legion, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't care. He may be pretty much concerned about it, but he won't change his cheerful expresion.

Disrespect towards him or his Legion will be taken as a joke at first. Reincidence in the matter will probably enrage the Primarch. Better run. You don't want to be closer than 15 LY of him if you have disrespected that much him, or worse, his Legion.

>Silver Blades Chaplain
>Yes, no full-black armor and skull helmet.

Kadir's priests have always worn these robes, and, as Chaplains are priests after all, they took that custom as theirs. What do you think?

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>>53244386
The pic.

>>53244386
Cool! Sounds like Raj and Linares would get along easily enough. They'd have a good laugh together. The biggest difference would be their attitude towards their jobs. While Linares sticks with his cheerful personality, Raj tends to put on his poker face when discussion war.

Their response towards disrespect is also similar, explosive and fierce, though I get the impression Linares is quicker to resort to using his fists?

The Chaplain looks neat, though I'd expect a Silver Blades Chaplain to use some sort of sword staff, instead of the crozius

The first thing you notice about Des Chain( besides his figure, tall and slender, with a bit too much bulk on his upper body)

Are his eyes. Looking at you from a tanned unshaven face under silver grey hair, 2 ice blue eyes measure you. You think that those eyes suck in all Information about you, your upringing, your story, your prefered sleeping position.

Yes those eyes, they know you. You and your weakness. And if you die, they will be the last thing you see...

>>53244532

Or a crozius with a blade at the opposite end?

By the way awesome pic silvery guy.

I try to differ the look of the Gunslingers a bit. More Mantle like and ponchos^^

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>>53244532
They are Chaplains, after all. But I suppose that nothing keeps them from carrying it to battle sheathered, like the rest of their Battle-Brothers. Putting it into the pic would overload it, I think.

>Silver Blades Librarian, v1.0

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>>53244570
>Librarian v2.0

Which one is cooler?

>>53244532
His patience has a limit, you know. And being the impulsive guy he is, it may be scarce.

>>53244199
Alrighty cool, when I wrote the rat thing the thought of them being labled furries never once crossed my mind. But now that it has I can't shake it.
So what I might do is have the daemonicly posessed units have mutations that favor Rat like mutations as a way of keeping the theme. But as a whole the marines look like standard chaos marines.
I'll focus more on the Drednaught / necromancer aspect.
Thanks mate.

>>53244560
The constructor don't let me modify that. Will try with another program later.

>>53244541
So basically, when Des (or Chain? What would be his preferred name?) enter a room, you get the dramatic spaghetti western close-up? Neat.

What's he like though? Cold and distant? Or warm and friendly? Something in-between?

>>53244570
>>53244586
Personally, I prefer the second. A Silver Blade should be Silver, ya know?

>>53244592
I had a thought. The idea right now is to make them Nurglites, but you could go the Tzeentch route with them as well. They're already mostly Psychic, plus it'd allow for a wide array of animalistic mutations, ranging from rat tails to a deer's antlers.

>>53244560
>>53244596
Putting ponchos on the Gunslingers is a nice aesthetic, thought I'm pretty sure it's not something the Chapter Generator has. Something to keep in mind when describing them and Des Chain.

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>>53244628
That's what I thought. So, apothecaries should follow that pattern, too? As they are white, they don't break that much from the general aesthethic.

>>53244667
The apothecary white looks fine. You could try the alternative, but I don't think it's nessecary.

>>53244679
No, it isn't.

What would the plural of Exterminatus be? Exterminati?

>>53244628

I actually renamed him to Deshain Kane^^

And Kane is his preferred name.

And yes, exactly the spaghetti western. The stranger comes into the saloon, everything is suddenly silent.

And his behavior depends on the situation. To people distant to him he might be cold and arrogant. But his men admire him because his strategies save their lives.

If he is in control, even the imperial army carss for him. If it is a joint venture campaign and he doesn't have the high command, his men comes first. The others bleed. The gunslingers win. There is no glory when you are dead. His legion is his power and to preserve them and make them better is the key to gain more power. (and later to collect more skulls, preferably the skulls of the others)

For that reason some of his brothers don't like him and the Gunslingers. Others respect him.

>>53245050
How do you think Raj and Kane would get along? I think Raj would be put off by Kane's 'my men first' attitude. I also get the impression Kane might be slightly uncomfortable with Raj's jolly, almost bombastic attitude towards his brothers?

How do you think he'd interact with Linares?

>>53245088

I could see Kane getting into a fight with Linares. I think he would provoke them and suddenly land a blow and then walk away.

With Raj it depends. At first he could be feeling awkward about Raj jolly behavior. Maybe he tests if it is only show. But there is the possibilty that Raj could earn Kanes respect. (Lineares too. Kane respects power)

But if Raj offends Kane because of the "his men first"- attitude or tries to lectur him, it could be that kane shoots him a bullet next to his head and answers thst next time it is between the head. Which would lead to a fist fight I suppose^^

>>53245152
Agreed XD. Linares and Kane may get along well enough or end up fistfighting in the middle of the briefing. Probably, the last.

>Your Primarch meets one of his brothers for the first time. What does the brother first notice about your Primarch?

Ashur is pretty much a puppydog when it comes to meeting his brothers. He welcomes them all with a genuine excitement and cheerfulness that utterly goes against the fact he's a 10ft. tall mountain of muscle bred to conquer a galaxy. He would try to know everything and in turn impart them all on his own story, whether they asked for it or not.
The first thing people will notice about Ashur is the fact he rarely wears armour when not officially in combat, and instead pelts and comfortable, lose clothes with the odd jewel sewn into the fabric, as well as the skull of his elephant sister on his shoulder.

May actually draw up Ashur at some point.

>>53245218
Maybe afterwards they call each other bros. Well after they called upon every insult they can imagine^^

>>53244322
Alright, finally got to reading this.

I gotta say, I like it. Starting off simple, just a farmer's boy, that eventually finds himself getting more and more responsibility thrust upon him. The idea of the marines learning to grow crops and tending to farms is quite fun, certainly different from what I've seen before.

The only thing that bothers me is the fact that he somehow becomes the ruler of the entire planet. For that to happen on such a basic world, it would have to atleast be Pangea like, and even then it seems unlikely, considering the most advanced communications technology would be something like a carrier pigeon.

>>53245337
Sure!

>>53245312
How tall should a Primarch be to be considered gigantic between his peers?

>>53245455
Considering marines are 7-8 ft, the Primarchs tend to be around 9-12 ft, I think.

>>53245455
*among

>>53245430
Tbh, not that unlikely considering how big the Mongol Empire got at its peak (or Charles V and the Empire where the sun never set). And then, I never specifically set a timeframe during which Pacha completes his conquest.

Any alternatives would be appreciated, though, as it's pretty much standard for Primarch background to have them have conquered (or got to ruling through other methods) their homeworld by the time they were found, Angron being the biggest exception.

>>53238307
Can someone update the picture with all the chosen Legions?

>>53245592
Even the Mongol Empire didn't conquer the entire world, and they didn't do it peacefully.

I think it might be important to establish exactly what the tech level of Suyu IV is. From there you can establish exactly how much he could realistically absorb into his empire. Him taking the continent he's on into his Empire is still believable. A united, global government pre-telegraph is pretty much impossible. The only way to have that would be for him to be a much better and more powerful psyker than you are going for.

>>53243591
I reckon the first thing anyone would notice about Valorn is that he is meticulously clean. Valorn always keeps his chin bald and his hair cropped, with nary a hair out of place. If his brother met him after a battle he might notice a few new licks of paint on Valorn's armour, covering scorch marks and other minor battle damage. The second thing he might notice is Valorn's grave and serious demeanour. Valorn is good at concealing his emotions and so is not very emotive. However, if he was in a particularly good mood that day his brother might play audience to flashes of dry sarcastic wit that rarely saw the light of day outside the company of Valorn's close friends.

Whilst Valorn knows how to talk he also knows how to listen. As such conversations with him can be rather one sided, with Valorn's only vocal contributions being short and to the point.

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>>53245639
This is as far as I've gotten so far.

>>53245312
Raj and Ashur meeting would be an interesting on then. Raj would let Ashur rattle on, patiently listening to his new brother.

>>53245660
A meeting between Raj and Valorn would be quite different. Raj is certainly not as well kempt as Valorn is, and the Titan Lord wears the battle damage with pride. Valorn might also be put off by Raj's immediately open attitude, though Raj would certainly lend his ear to Valorn. I think Raj would greatly respect Valorn as a soldier and commander, appreciating his attitude in times of war and combat, but think he's a bit of boring one outside of that.

>>53245696
Now that they're all together, I can't help but notice some of the schemes are pretty similar to each other. Gunslingers-Silver Blades, Death's Heads-Chosen of Hecate, Smoke Stalkers-Pale Hounds...

>>53245766
I will be honest: That's not interesting, at all. It's literally one person being courteous, and the other being overtly sharing. It's basically me and one of my best friends.

Guess which one I am.

And I have to interfere here: Smoke Stalkers and Pale Hounds are not any more similar than say the Loxodontii and the Leviathan Host and CoH and Death's heads are really distinct. The ones I do agree with are Gunslingers and Silver Blades.

What I do agree with is that browns and pastell colours are extremely dominant. Thanks to the Symphonious Disciples, the Titan Marchers and the Golden Mountains for breaking it up a good bit!

While we're on the subject:
>>53245696
It's Leviathan Host, not Leviathan Horde
It's LoxOdontii, not LoxIdontii

Again, thank you so much for keeping the roster updated Britfriend.

>>53245766
Dark Angels - Iron Hands -Raven Guard
World Eaters - White Scars - Lunar Wolves
Space Wolves - Word Bearers

And so one. If you look in the canon legions you have a reduced color Palette ansd easy color schemes. One Main color and mostly one secondary. Nothing like half vor Quarter schemes.
Personally i like the reduced approach. If necessary i change gun Metall to dark grey. However similarities are also a thing in canon.

>>53245811
I mistyped, I meant to say it wouldn't be an interesting one...

>>53245811
>>53245822
You both make fair points on the color schemes. I do think a bit more vibrancy might be worth considering though, a lot of the schemes are very muted.

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>>53245811
Dammit. I thought I'd fixed that error.

Sorted now

>>53245874
I agree on the vibrancy bit.

Not changing my scheme, though. I call dibs on being a lazy cunt for being one of the earliest entries.

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>>53245878
Or not. I need more caffeine.

>>53245642
Hm, guess I'll go with the single-continent way, then.

>Your Primarch meets one of his brothers for the first time. What does the brother first notice about your Primarch?
Well, first thing is Pacha giving them a bearhug and inviting them to have a proper meal over which to talk.

Pacha is also loud and expressive, both in the sound of his words and movements, as well as in how easy it is to read him. After a few words, the next thing is that Pacha is a simple man. The primarch is not a fool by any means, but he's not one for abstract thought (or rather thought that he cannot make a pragmatic, down-to-earth comparison of), nor one to get wordplay and such things.

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More Vibrancy^^. gruesome

>>53245766
>>53245811
The Silver Blades were first!

>>53245998
Linares would like Pacha, maybe. Or surely. I like him!

>>53246055
Silver+Orange...I don't see it. But if you are Ok with it, ok then.

>>53246055
The orange is a stark improvement, but the silver seems... out of place? In fact, I think that out of any legion in the line-up, they're the ones that should GUNmetal grey.

>>53245998
Raj would certainly appreciate Pacha's warm attitude and be happy to simply sit and listen to him. Pacha might not fully understand Raj's occasionally very philosophical way of thinking and speaking, but I think they would be friendly nonetheless. Raj does not eat a whole lot though, so that might be something that Pacha could take the wrong way?

Updated my description file.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t608XhyARQm0jg8zpEtVs-yJpU8EmPDbLEk-giB46dA/edit?usp=sharing

Link for the everyone interested.

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You guys are filling up rather quickly so I won't join in but I felt a creative urge, so here we go.

>Name
The Gentry
>Primarch
Vardon L'Ancien
>Legion/Primarch Personality
Reigning from the sarcophagus of a dreadnought, L'Ancien is a regal and fatherly figure, a statesman rather than a warrior. This applies to the Gentry as a whole, who act according to noblesse oblige. Their innate superiority over humanity entails the responsibility to not only defend their lessers but rule them with wisdom that only the Adeptus Astartes. At their best, they define nobility and acuity. At their worst, they are condescending and arrogant, obsessed with their superiority.
>Tactical Specialty
The Gentry operate in a unique fashion, integrating themselves into the Astra Militarum rather than operating as an independent force. Each of the Gentry is trained to be a leader rather than a warrior, educated in the management of logistics, strategy and morale. Every fully fledged Space Marine in the legion is capable of leading a platoon of guardsmen to victory with precision and grace. However, this predisposition towards leadership makes them less suited for the squad tactics that the Adeptus Astartes are normally known for. As such, the Gentry are best used to greatly bolster the efficiency of the Imperial Guard rather than perform surgical strikes.
>Thematics
L'Ancien and his Gentry are based on the old regime of France, before its revolution. French terminology and ideals from that era are used in abundance. In terms of appearance, they aren't especially unique except for overuse of gilding on their armor. They could easily end up as Loyalists, Traitors or Separatists.

>>53246554
>>53246499

Now I see the problem. In my Chapter Creator the color of the Gunslingers IS gunmetal grey. It seems it can't be displayed properly. It is not supposed to be silver

The orange was just a joke to add more vibrancy. I would take red but then they look like this dark angel chapter brotherhood covenant or of I don't know^^

>>53246666
No problem then!

Quads can't be wrong

>>53246657
Loyal, Secessionist or Traitor?

>>53238307
just as a sidenote, Crassus was a hilariously bad military commander. He invented the infantry square about 1800 years before it was useful, and used it without missile superiority

>>53246699
As said at the end, could easily end up as any of the three. It's hard to say which is more suited to them and which of the other Legions they would mesh best with.

>>53246657
Quite interesting! We're filling up quickly, but I think we still have one or two slots left. Probably not on the Loyalist side of things, unfortunately.

Then again, after we've filled up, we might need to evaluate what we have. Some legions might have to be scrapped if we don't think they add anything unique, or the anon that suggested them isn't responding.

>>53246699
I'm guessing Loyalist, since they're heavily integrated into the Astra Militarum.

>>53246716
Wrong thread?

>>53246716
His thing was money management, not military stuff

>>53246733
He is talking about one of Caesar's friends, Crasus. Is in the OP pic.

>>53246733
>>53246699
It's written as a pre-Heresy description of the Gentry.

Post-Heresy, they could still be heavily integrated into the Astra Militarum as loyalists, lording whatever cult and marauders they dominate as traitors or handling the logistics, administration and primary military of the separatists.

What legions are most likely get along with a bunch of noblesse-oblige adhering Frenchmen and which are the most likely to end up as foes?

>>53238644
Cheeky cunts

How large do you think a legion fleet would be?

>>53245897
>Your Primarch meets one of his brothers for the first time. What does the brother first notice about your Primarch?
Lambach Kropor is steeped in a quiet confidence.
Due to his relatively peaceful upbringing he has perhaps had more time to devote to study than some of his more warlike brothers.
He knows that he likely has the answer to most questions and will seek to learn from his brothers if he believes they have something to offer him.
Due to his calm demenour and peaceful upbringing many of the others make the false assumption that Lambach would be easy pickings in a fight.
A fact that Lambach is more than happy to dispute in a freindly duel.
Lambach is average size as far as primarchs go, with stone grey eyes and shaggy brown hair.
He has gone to great lengths to ensure he has a friendly relationship with as many of his brothers as he can but there are some who would rather he didn't.

>>53247386
I took out the bit about becoming rat men but more or less left his back story the same.
>Historic / Defining Moments
Lambach landed on a world that was basically Athens the entire world over.
He was raised in the temple that takes care of the dead. Dedicated to an ancient god Hecate.
Once found by his father he discovered that earlier heavy losses had reduced his legion to a few thousand marines.
This, combined with his past led to him "recycling" marines in the form of Dreads far more often than any other Primarch.
He strongly opposed the edict of Nikeea and felt betrayed by his father when it passed.
He began heading further out in the crusade than ever before as he refused to give up his sons gifts and wished to hide this fact from prying eyes.
At some point he lost all the members of his inner circle / closest sons, beyond the point of using Dreads to raise them.
So he used his psykic powers to a far greater extent than ever before to return thier souls to thier bodies.
However the spell didn't work properly and the returned were basically Zombie marines. Also the use of such a strong and foul spell caught the atttention of Daddy.
Russ (or his equivelent in this setting) was sent to destroy the Chosen and bring Lambach to the Emperors palace.
Having been so far removed there had been little in the way of resupply or new recruits so the Chosen were completely outclassed.
Lambach asked the warp gods for help in escaping. Both Tzeentch and Nurgle answered.
Lambach preferred what Nurgle had to offer and accepted his help.
Tzeentch was fairly upset by this and cursed Lambach and the chosen as vermin.
As a result the Tzeentch counterpart may not work well with Lambach's marines.
By the time the Chaos Warmaster declared Lambach, with no other options was in full support of his traitor brother.

>>53246801
Ah, derp. My ancient/Roman history is not what it should be. I'm more of a post-sixteenth century kind of guy.

>>53247153
Can't say for sure, not the Titan Marchers.

>>53247386
And so my search for a brother Raj dislikes continues.

>>53247613
Mot has no friends, no one even wants to be next to him on the chart.

Zelbezis will come across as a cold, judging bastard. Judging is what he does best. He's not one for discussing stuff that is off topic, and even on the rare occasions he does, he will not dwell on it for long. In contrast to his demeanour, he is also a skilled orator and poet, with speeches glorifying the values of Strength, Discipline, and Determination.

On another point, I could see Vardon being the Separatist Warmaster.

>>53248090
I agree. I wouldn't know who to appoint as the Chaos Warmaster, or the Arch-traitor. Krees or Linares for the Loyalists. I don't think Je'She has the attitude to be Warmaster. It shouldn't be Raj either, as his legion fills more of a specialist/support role.

>>53248269
Phoneposting instantly removes my ability to form logical sentences.

>>53243591
>Your Primarch meets one of his brothers for the first time. What does the brother first notice about your Primarch?
Antaloc speaks softly and rarely does he raise his voice
Antaloc speaks down to others. He see other as not a pure than himself, minor flaws in anyone's genetics will see you classed as a mutant
His attitude towards others makes him difficult to work with but he is a skilled warrior and commander
He will work with others but those he considers mutants only at the emperors or warmasters command
Has little interest in his father the emperor's vision for humanity and disliking what he and his legion has to do in his name

>>53246499
>>53246554
>>53245312
Yes, I think Pacha would easily get along with Ashur, Linares and Raj. Even if he doesn't get some references or hidden meanings, being jolly and boisterous about it will make Pacha think they're having a good time.
Regarding Raj not eating a lot, a short explanation might be enough to send Pacha into a quest (and probably drag along the rest of his cook-specialist marines) to experiment with flavors to find something Raj eats with gusto.

>>53247386
Would Lambach care about knowledge of agriculture and other similarly earthly things? Might determine how well Pacha and him get along.

>>53245660
>>53248304
Pacha might thing of Valorn and Antalorn as stuck up nobles, though.

>Catpcha: Choose images of mountains

>>53248340
Valorn would probably assume that Pacha's mannerisms are an act to hide his true intelligence. As such he'd probably be very suspicious of his brother until he realised that it wasn't an act and Pacha was just that kind of person. After that he'd probably distance himself from Pacha less out of distaste for his brother and more because he is ridiculously embarrassed to have judged someone so wrongly and embarrassment is an emotion he has little experience with

>>53248269
I already suggested having a shaman/chaplain from the Loxodontii be the Archtraitor taking sort-of control after Ashur's murder.

>>53248654
Or, slave, right? I'm thinking one of his shamans can work as the Erebus figure. The Chaos Traitors could use Ashur as their mouthpiece.

>>53243591
Mot Hadar is a harsh individual, and some describe him as infuriatingly blunt. His direct mannerisms serve him well I'm the field, but may strain his relationships with his brothers. He demands unquestioning obedience from his sons, and sometimes he forgets that his brothers are his equals. Needless to say, Mot Hadad believes that he is correct in all things and gets upset when he is proven wrong.

>>53249033
Mot Hadad. It's Mot Hadad. Phoneposting us the worst.

>>53248488
Actually, it probably wouldn't be singularly because of the embarrassment. Most of it would probably be him staying away from his brother until he figured out a way to undo the damage he had done to their relationship. After all, his legion had to get their obsession with rectifying mistakes from somewhere, and it makes sense for it to be one of his traits

>>53248714
You're right, enslavement. However you can't really use Ashur as mouthpiece, anymore. it's under the segment "Collaring of the Beast" in my lore-doc.

>>53246733
>We're filling up quickly, but I think we still have one or two slots left.
Don't worry about filling all the slots.

Am just writing up a legion, mostly inspired by gaelic/celtic mythology. Probably leaning towards being a traitor legion.

>>53249033
>>53249142
Alright, Mot, that's what I was looking for. I think Mot makes a good rival for Raj.
Mot's attitude would certainly piss Raj off enough to trigger his explosive anger. The result would be quite a fierce verbal, and possibly physical fight between the two. After their first meeting, Raj would likely refuse to aid the XXth in the future, which might cause even more of a rift between the two. Once Mot turns to Chaos and Hashut, I can only assume he would like to get his hands on some sweet ass Titans. This would make the Titan Marchers a prime target for the Forge Lords…

Awesome!

>>53249433
We've already got one of those, so I don't think that's the angle you should go for. Sorry man.

>>53249544

Really? Bollocks, checked the list, obviously missed it.

>>53249654
It's the Spears of Dawn, but they haven't been properly filled in.

>>53249703

Thanks, I'll check where they were posted in the previous thread and see if by idea is different enough for adjustment to be enough or whether I'd need to completely start over.

>>53249772
I would look into some other overarching theme. If you want to do something distinct, maybe look into basing your legion on a more modern culture, instead of an ancient one.

>>53249544
I could definitely see am iron cage like scenario during the scouring.

Actually, even though I hate phoneposting, I might submit a Legion not used in the other AUs if there's still a slot open. Then I'll come back in a week to elaborate.

>>53248090
Zelbezis would hate Linares' constant irony and sarcasm, but would like the strength and determination of him...
This may be interesting

>>53248304
>Linares
>Flawed gene-seed
Lol, man, you even trying us to cooperate?

>>53248340
I see a good friendship here.

>>53249033
Don't know about Linares' relationship with Mot tho. Difficult one, probably.

>Name
Ogre Legion
>Primarch
Rokuten
>Legion/Primarch Personality
Legion is highly rooted in warrior honor, though their primarch is more the type to abuse how warriors' unwavering loyalty.
>Tactical Specialty
Infantry fetish to the extreme; if there is a conceivable way for foot soldiers to do it, the Ogre Legion will do it with foot soldiers.
>Thematics
Japanese samurai and mythology
>Colors
White and blue

More to come Sunday

>>53250825
Oh, I remember them. One of the rejected HH legions. Could work as a traitor legion.

>>53250884
I recall it being me wanting to focus on the other aspects rather than being rejected.

>>53251035
Fair enough. I know shit got kind of rough later on, so I expected it to be some sort of rejection.

Either way, I like these guys, though I'm not sure how many traitor slots we have left, and we need a Tzeentch legion.

>>53251165
>we need a Tzeentch legion
I absolutely despise this mentality.

>>53250772
Yep don't see it happening
Maybe they could have some history and a mutual dislike

More about Deshain Kane:

He is not a man of many words. It could be mistaken for a lack of intelligente but that is not the case.. He just don't want to waste and breath. If he speaks, he inspires, in short sentences, Evers word not wasted, he explains battle plans vor bring Strangers to follow him. Often he is accompagnied by bis first Captain who brngs forward the bulk if the plans while kane stays in the background and listens, plans and adapt. If he raise bis voice he really has something important to say. However the Situation could be kinda awkward because people tend to look at the guy in the background.
Some primarch think this is due to open disrespect. Well in some Cases it could be.

>>53251190
Ok, noted. To me, it doesn't make sense to have legions for only 3 of the 4 major gods.

>>53251321
Yeah we need all the gods covered

>>53251321
Which gods have we got?

>>53251435
Gunslingers -> Khorne
Chosen of Hecate -> Nurgle
Smoke Stalkers -> Slaanesh

And, just for completions sake
Forge Lords -> Hashut

>>53243591
>>53243169
Well, if the Gentry do end up being included at any point (which is a big 'if'), I'll elaborate on the Primarch's attitude.

Vardon L'Ancien is noble and proud, despite being one of the physically weakest Primarchs. He is likely to act more like an elderly father than a brother, offering assistance in matters of logistics, infrastructure and grand strategy. He is likely to distance himself from the more aloof and independent Primarchs, while not necessarily holding it against them. He trusts that they are wise enough to come to him should they need his aid.
The main factor that would cause him to begrudge certain siblings would be his arrogance and hypocrisy. As happy as he is to offer good-natured advice and assistance to his brothers, he is far less willing to accept any advice that could be considered spiritual or philosophical, rather than practical. To deny his wisdom is one thing, to question it is another. To offer insight into warfare is one thing, to besmirch his way of thinking is another.
>tl;dr
Helpful father figure that resents anyone that he believes values spirituality over pragmatism.

He's likely to be friendly towards:
>Antaloc the Pure
>Quaestor Krees

He's likely to be ambivalent towards:
>Deshain Kain
>Emil Kannav
>Mot Hadad

He's likely to be hostile towards:
>Lambach Kropur
>Hayden Reliquo

Not too sure about any of the others.

>>53251462
That'll come out to 8 chaos legions if we go with all the gods. That's kind of a lot, especially if we're trying to split this three ways.

>>53251321
If a Legion does not cover one of the gods, than you simply need a force of equivalent strength to take its place.

That, or you split a Legion. This is an alternative reality, use alternatives. Get creative.

>>53251485
Or we find a willing Tzeentch legion.

>>53251483
We're not trying to cover ALL of them, just the big 4. The Forge Lords going for Hashut isn't an attempt to cover the 8 gods.

>>53251462
>>53251483
Who are these 4 extra gods?

>>53251587
I'm thinking it would be Hashut, Malal, Horned Rat and... actually, I don't know who the eighth would be.

>>53251555
Well, I had originally intended the Leviathan Host to be Chaos Undivided but I suggested new gods so logically Timat (what had originally just been their perception of the undivided warp) became one of them. That's now two minor Chaos gods getting represented. Leaving other two out would be more confusing.

At this point, it might make more sense to cut the idea of minor gods because it's just gonna make this kind of a mess. Though I do agree with >>53251485 partially.

I guess the Leviathans could be Tzeentch, but they're distinctly fishy instead of birdy and they're really not intellectuals or schemers at all.

I'll finally post the summary google doc in a few hours. I promise.

>>53251555
>Or we find a willing Tzeentch legion.
And if you don't?

>>53251483
>>53251587
>>53251639
We're either keeping the main big four as they are and just allowing a plethora of minor chaos gods, or making four lesser chaos gods that need to corrupt mortals to fulfill their will on the mortal plain and have a hard time manifesting daemons.

>>53251654
We've been doing fine so far.

>>53251653
Tzeentch could work them, but I prefer them as Chaos Undivided. Tiamat is kind of a blank sheet too.

>>53251734
>We've been doing fine so far.
I'm just saying.

>>53251746
I dunno, "forcing" roles isn't necessarily a bad thing. The Second Sons were originally a loyalist legion, but they got turned into Nurgle Chaos Marines because that slot needed to be filled and I think they came out more interesting for it.

>>53251746
I appreciate your concerns, obviously. I'm just optimistic that we'll find someone for the Tzeentch slot. Looking at the list though, I think there's room for the Ogre Legion. They would take us up to 6 traitor legions, which leaves room for the Tzeentch one.

>>53251797
I was thinking of rewriting them and making them seps though.

>>53251850
Well, that works well enough too

>>53251462
Aren't the smoke stalkers separatists?

>>53251958
Oh, huh, maybe? When he showed up, the idea was to have them be Slaaneshi. They're blind dudes with their other senses enhanced, so Slaanesh made sense to me.

>>53251987
>>53251958
I was always originally wanting to make them separatists. I really dislike slaanesh so I was hoping to avoid that route.

>>53252055
C'mon blind slaaneshi would be so damn cool

>>53252115
But Slaanesh is fucking weird, I really don't wanna right about that shit.

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>>53251479
>>53246657
Oh, and an image for the transformation from Heresy to 41st Millennium.

Yes, that's standard uniform for the Gentry. How are you supposed to impress the lessers you're obliged to protect without wearing a bunch of bling? It's not like the Adeptus Astartes can't afford it.

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>>53252259
>Adding useless adornments to your otherwise functional armor
The Forge Lords scoff at you, sir.

>>53252403
Why not? The armor looks cool.

>>53252434
>Forge Lords
>obvious Mechanicus-related name
>not fond of blingy, extravagant armor
Do you really need an explanation?

>>53252434
Oh, that was just in-character banter. I like what you've done.

Speaking of armor, what mark does your legion use the most? The Forge Lords like marks II and III the most, because if it ain't broke, there isn't a point in trying to fix it. After the heresy they might steal some pieces of Mark VIII because gorgets are cool.

>>53252716
Mine? During the Crusade and the Heresy the used the Mk.II and III, and tried to maintain these as their to-go armors. Obviously, system decay, and even the best maintenance can't keep a system working for 10 thousand years. So we started using new systems, like the Mk.VI and VII, mostly. But our Techmarines have been taking care of the older suits, keeping some of them functional. Some Mk.VII systems have been modified to use the Mk.III armor plating but the Mk.VII internals. We are very proud of our "Mk.III" armors, and many battle-brothers still use them in battle. The suits that doesn't work or can't be repaired are used ceremonially.

Do we have already settled when the primarchs are found?

I like to have Kane found relativly early.

And do we have a doc where we gather all infos about the primarchs? Searching through 4(?) threads is kinda tiresome.

Last but not least:does anybody know a good artist for a primarchs pic or a good sculptor/kitbasher who could realize a fan made primarch?

>>53253007
There's a link to a google doc in the OP.

Also, we need to settle on the Warmasters first, as the Seperatist and Chaos Warmasters are supposed to be the first two found.

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>Silver Blades Techmarine v1.0

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>Silver Blades Techmarine v2.0

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>>53253366
Is that in the constructor or the generator? If it's in the constructor, where did you find the pauldron icons?

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>Silver Blades Techmarine v3.0
>The one I like the least.

Which one is cooler? v2.0 has that Silverish armor and the Legion feel, and that helps because the Silver Blades Techs aren't very connected to Mars, they like to work on a more independent basis, even designing new things.

>>53253403
Constructor, is better if you want a certain look.

>>53253444
I prefer v2. Silver Blades should be silver.

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A legion humbly submitted for the review of my peers. I have some ideas of how it could be played as a loyalist, seperatist, or Tzeentchian chaos if a bit of extra tragedy got thrown in.


>Name
The Reaching Hands

>Symbol
A hand reaching upwards towards a star

>Homeworld
Tallaho

>Primarch
Elahim kor Tallaho

Elahim believes in the pursuit of progress, in the ideal of progress. He strives to make what is bad today better tomorrow, what is good today great tomorrow. He is a fountain of hope, a firm believer that any obstacle can eventually be overcome, that any wrong can be righted. He dreams of distant times of utopia, but for him that dream is a certainty, simply one that has not quite yet been reached.

His enthusiasm and optimism are infectious, his charisma incredible, his intellect undeniable. Without ever realising he has done it, or ever meaning to, he has created a cult of personality about himself within his legion. He is a inspiring commander, a natural leader, but he is not, at his core, a warrior. Always he would rather negotiate than fight, rather compromise than dictate. An enemy who submits and becomes a friend is worth a hundred enemies slain. He has no desire to be revered as a conqueror and a champion of humanity's armies, but instead wishes to be remembered as a bringer of light to the darkness, for spreading civilisation, peace, safety and understanding.

>Tactical Speciality
The Reaching Hands believe in the concept of winning a war before it begins. They strive to understand their enemy, their allies, their battlefield, and to choose the most appropriate tactics for that particular situation. They train in all aspects, being somewhat jack of all trades, master of none when compared to the other legions, but they believe having the right tools for any job is more important than having the best tool for any single job.

>Thematics
The Renaissance. Early USA and concept of Manifest Destiny. Roman Republic.

>Colors
Red, Purple and Gold

>>53253880
Hmmm.... could work nicely as a Tzeentchian legion. The drive towards progress means a drive towards change, which would drive him straight into Tzeentch's hands.

The issue I have with it is the way that the Primarch is presented.sounds almost Gary Stue-ish, but we do lack a Sanguinius tier charismatic Primarch.

I'd like to hear everyone else's thoughts.

>>53254034
ye we need that dude that basically everyone likes.

>>53246657
>>53252259
I like the paint scheme.

>>53253880
Not so much this paint scheme. It's a little garish, even by Marine standards.

>>53254034

If you'll allow me to elaborate on that (I wanted to but hit character limit), hopefully I can do a little to alleviate your worries.

I aimed for the Gary-Stu angle a little, as I aimed a little more noblebright in general than most other folks. Partly because no one else had.

My intention from this, though, is to make someone who is also very brittle. Not only his own mentality, but that of his whole legion, is based around their manifest destiny. Should this come into question, everything they are standing upon will crumble. Obviously, the heresy would provide ample opportunities to bring this about.

In a way, I thought of his as a man who would appear invincible and unstoppable before the heresy, but actually be revealed to be a naive dreamer when shit hit the fan. How he and his legion respond to that revelation would determine which camp he ends up in.

>>53254298

I agree about the colour scheme. I was dubious about it myself, but was struggling to come up with one that didn't tread on the toes of a current or canon one. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

>>53254345
Eh, I've got nothing to do for the next few minutes. I'll play around with the painter and see if anything looks good.

Are red, purple and gold your favorite three colors, or did you pick them arbitrarily? Or alternately, what is your favorite color?

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>>53254345
Try this on for size. I've always found that quartered schemes work well for the really vibrant paint schemes, personally. Makes it very obvious that this is *heraldry*, bold and instantly recognizable from a distance.

So, with 19 confirmed legions, what's the last legion being accepted?
>The Gentry
>>53246657
>Ogre Legion
>>53250825
>The Reaching Hands
>>53253880

>>53255029
I say we accept all of them but then stop accepting legions. They all have nice concepts and I'd hate to have to deny them, but we are running out of space so they should be the last three.

>>53255029
If we go for the 7-7-7 split we have two places left..

>>53255029
>>53255122
In all likelihood at least one Legion will be dropped anyway.

>>53255029
>>53255122
>>53255123
>>53255151
One thing to keep in mind, there's roughly a 98% chance we'll lose at least two or more authors within two weeks. This is the Internet after all.

>>53254870
Not bad. Let's see how he likes it.

>>53255029
>>53255122
>>53255123
>>53255151
>>53255222
Right now, I think the Gentry and the Ogre Legion are fine to accept, bring us to a total of 21.

Then we need to consider the legions we have and scrap the ones that are likely to not have enough of a backing off the list. Then we can add the Reaching Hands. They need a good bit of work, but it'd give us the Tzeentch legion we're looking for.

>>53254870
>>53254427

Can't lie, that's way better than what I did. Relatively vibrant is what I was going for, to reflect their optimistic nature. Red, purple and gold didn't particulary come from anywhere, perhaps I thought they seemed the three most noble colours? Originally I thought blue, white and gold, then I realised there was no possible way to do it without looking like an ultramarine or a retard.

>>53253444
Where are the pauldron insignias? I couldn't find them.

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>>53253880
>>53254870
>>53255440
My attempt at this scheme

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>>53255883

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>>53255883
>Reaching Hands
>Didn't give him a Power fist
wtf is wrong with me

>>53255914
>>53255883
It's a little busy.

>>53255948
Well yes, but that's kind of the point. Bright, over the top, etcetera. That's what I understood as the point of the legion.

>>53255428
We in a position to select warmasters of the three factions cause loyalists and seps are almost at 7 each

>>53256119
Feel free to discuss it, I'm gonna call it in for the night, gotta get up way too early tomorrow morning.

I would point at Raaj for the Loyalist Warmaster.

>>53256274
I would agree the problem is I cant see sep warmaster could be but I can see the Reaching Hands as the traitor warmaster

>>53256172
>>53256119
>>53256343
Loyalists first then:
>Golden Mountain, Pachu the Earthquake
Inca-inspired masters of melee combat and rough terrain.
>Silver Blades, Linares, the Lord of the Ale
Spanish drunkards that specialize close quarters combat and drop-pod deployment.
>Sentinels, Je'She of the Watch
Versatile Arabs devoted to the bigger picture, with an emphasis on reinforcing defensive positions.
>Symphonious(sic) Disciples, ???
Loyalist Noise Marines. That's it, I think?
>Titan Marchers, Raj Vokar
Sikh-like allies of the Adeptus Mechanicus with a focus on heavy ordnance and Titanicus support.
>Quaestor's Wardens, Quaestor Krees
Napoleonic Brits with a disposition for fighting in formation and synchronized weapons-fire.

I'd go with Je'She first, Quaestor and Raj tied second for the Loyalists.

>>53256419
I personally vote against Raj. I want the Titan Marchers to not necessarily be tied down to one of the three arms of the crusade, so he can't really lead one.

My vote goes to Je'She in concept, but I still think the Sentinels need something to make them stand out a bit, both visually and culturally.

We also need to get the Symphonious Disciples guy back in here to finish up his stuff.

>>53256419
The Symphonious Disciples are not worked at all. I mean, we have their general background but we don't even know who their primarch is. I would delete them if their anon doesn't show up.

>>53255428
Side note, "The Gentry" is a very strange name for a Legion, when you say it out loud. I think that might need to be addressed.

>>53256559
Alternate names:
>Gilded
>Chevaliers
>Hierarchs
>Blue Blooded
>Trueborn
>Gallant
>Knights Regal
>Gilded Kings
>Paladins

>>53256770
Blueblood is kinda cool in French when you remove the space between Blue and Blood. "Sangbleu".

Gilded Chevaliers also sounds good on the tongue.

Paladins/Knights Azure.

Trueborn Kings if you want to get pompous as FUUUUUUCK. Which might be cool.

>>53256538
fair if you don't think Raj should. Je'She is my second just thought Raj would be a better

>>53256554
He went over the primary last thread I thought. He was a space bard.

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fw8Bnyof8qEEwdt7qJJR8m_wS-4cp9lM_BUQm2gMXKw/edit?usp=sharing

Finally got this done. Have a Leviathan champion as well, and some musical accompaniment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toJfgrE61mQ

I left the latter part of the Legion's history more open ended depending on what role they need to fill during the Heresy and because I couldn't exactly figure out how they end up falling all the way to Chaos.

>>53256538
Yeah sorry, I've been away. My weeks are pretty hectic so I slot in here when I can. I should be able to write some more stuff up tonight.

My end goal so far is to portray Je'she almost like a sanguinius/Khan-type character. Cultured and passionate about his people and the imperium, and willing to defend it in the name of the Emperor. Will definitely work on character development

>>53257611
>musical accompaniment
PROMPT:
Post your legion's theme song.

https://youtu.be/AEM-1kKcg7g

>>53257772
Ogre Legion

https://youtu.be/lm881caBFW4

>>53256933
>>53256770
>>53256559
Thinking on settling on the simple (but still arrogant) name of "Sovereign."

Not sure where the Legion would be called the Sovereign or the Sovereigns, but an individual Marine could be called a Sovereign, with multiple being called Sovereigns. It performs the same function as the Gentry, it's just easier to apply.

>>53257772
Pale Hounds
https://youtu.be/Gw09tAcNB0Q
Cause they generally are, at least
until the blitzkrieging forces turn up

>>53257911
Making a plural out of a singular word just feels a little odd.

"I am a Sovereign, one of many Sovereigns, and we are the Sovereign Legion of Sovereigns. That guy over there's a Sovereign too."

Maybe I'm overthinking it though.

>>53257965
You can have many sovereigns.

>>53257965
>>53258053
We've already got issues like that.

I mean, what's the singular of Loxodontii?

>>53257911
I much prefer Sovereign to Gentry. It sounds more like people you'd take seriously, whereas gentry made me think of some well-meaning victorian gentlemen in top hats and monocles.

>>53258071
A Loxodont?

>>53258071
>Loxodontii
Loxidontus? Or Loxidontius?

>>53258071
An Lox?

>>53243591
Je'She would appear to be observant, other than anything else. His deep brown eyes would seem to be alight with something akin to a mixture of thoughtfulness and wry humour. His rough, tanned skin and windswept hair a product of the harsh Harrdinese sun and constant deserts. His accent in common laced with the foreign and almost exotic Harrdinese way of speaking.

Regarding his brothers, he would jump at the opportunity to meet them. Greeting them in the way of his homeworld, with a conversation over a hot cup of kaffe. He would love to know all about them, their homeworld, their views and what they truly enjoy.
I feel like Je'she would get along very well with Pacha, and Ashur, due to their similar cultures of hospitality and welcoming others into their home. And I reckon he would get along with Linares after the first shock of meeting :P

>>53256538
I agree with you on Je'she. I feel like the Primarch of a legion that generally considers the grand scheme of things would be well suited to the position of warmaster

>>53245050
It would be really interesting to see how Je'She and Kane would relate tone another as well as fight alongside each other, seeing as their combat doctrines are basically opposites

I sense a rivalry ;^)

>>53248340
Ok I spent my morning going over the attitudes of the Primarchs in this thread and writing up something for Lambach.

>Pacha the Earthquake
Lambach would get along very well with Pacha, they both experienced humble beginings and grew into the role of Primarch.
Lambach would also probably learn from Pacha and try an incorporate Pacha's argricultural teachings on his home world.
>Deshain Kane
Lambach would find Des intriguing and would respect his martial power, I think.
The two may not see eye to eye on every topic but on the other hand could sit in silence for hours on end without speaking to each other and just enjoy a companion without sayng it.
>Linares the Lord Of The Ale
I like the idea of Lambach and Linares being good friends, the two could spend hours exchanging stories with Linares taking control of the conversation and Lambach happily enjoying his brothers banter.
I'd also like to have the Chosen work with the Silver Blades when they first start out and are a smaller Legion.
Then I think it would be most interesting if it was Linares that was tasked with bringing Lambach to justice after his transgressions.

>>53260227
>Antaloc the pure
This would be one of the few relationships Lambach would not bother trying to foster.
Lambach is humble and doesn't like to look down on any one else. He sees Antaloc as narrow minded.
Also Lambach is a psyker which Antaloc would consider a mutation.
Hostilities could easily brew between the two.
>Je'She of the Watch
This would be a friendly relationship, both Primarchs seem to have matching personalities and I feel they would enjoy each others company.
>Zelbezis Dyestes
Lambach seems unsure of Zelbezis but the two could be friends in a quite, respectful way, but would never bother speaking of it. Just an understanding the two have.
>Raj Vokar
Lambach shares with Raj's good humour and enjoys his company, they are like yin to yang.
Raj is expressive and boisterous where Lambach is quite and to the point.
>Vardon L'Ancien
Lambach would have full respect for Vardon when they first meet, father figure, wise, rides a dreadnaught. Ticks all the boxes.
However as they got to know each other Lambach would come to detest the arrogance Vardon wears like a coat.
The two would drift apart and either not speak to each other again or become openly hostile.
>Mot Hadad
Lambach respects Mot Hadad greatly but the two of them often clash, more of a rivalry than anything.
Lambach likes to be right, he and Mot may get into long winded debates about the smallest difference in view.
However if the both of them agreed on something, no one is gonna bother trying to question it.

>>53257611
So Marduk for arch-traitor or arch-traitor+Chaos Warmaster then? His having to hide religion would make it pretty hard to be warmaster though.

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>>53261039
>arch traitor is named Marduk
It's like pottery

>>53261104
I didn't even realize this, though I guess I wouldn't be the first to realize the irony of a Chaos worshiper being named after the guy who literally killed Chaos itself.

>>53261104
>pottery
Poetry?

>>53261885
It's a meme you dip.

Was out for the weekend, reading through last thread now.
Anything of particular note for my Pillars of Balance?

First time really posting but a question...

We've got the Loyalist and Traitor AdMech, would it be fair to say we should also look at separatist AdMech?

>>53262662
Pretty much necessary.

Permission to Throw together something to give a rough idea as to what our Separatist AdMech should be like?

>>53262697
Shoot. Bonus points if they stole gene seed.

So, Je'She is the Loyalist Warmaster then?

>>53262213
Not really, though I think they've been kind of forced into the Seperatist camp.

>>53262662
Well obviously…

>>53257772
I'll have to think on that

Also, the Ogre Legion can be legion XXI, but what are we doing with the Reaching Hands. Are we gonna make them our Tzeentch legion? If not them, then who?

Silver Blades' song (of course, in spanish):

https://youtu.be/WAMkb6QgyMs

>>53260227
I see it. Will work with you

>Stolen Gene Seed
>Silver Blades Seed was already impure
>Already gave the Skitarii a Hebrew vibe
>Jew Thunderwarriors?
>Jew Thunderwarriors.

>>53263588
Stealing our gene—seed is good for us. If they want to make warriors with it, you are not getting good ones. Biotechnologically, at least.

>>53263682
Well my Idea is that they have horribly imperfect ones, but they're trying to make it better on their own. What they have managed is a pathetic Ossmodula and a crazy Biscopea. Basically forcing them to be grafted into their armor Ala Robocop. However that's on a GOOD day.

>>53263703
For the Sep. Mech? Okay, didn't get that part.

>>53263754
Yep!
"Stealin ALL the Ge- Wait these genes are broken!"

>>53257772
Gunslingers

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=At5nYDFDzXw

Will see every song later. Anyone has the updated pic of the Legions we have?

>>53258456

I could really See that coming. Question is: friendly or not.

By the way: the war master of Chaos should be undivided although that reigns the gunslingers out too (and god dann I want to be the Arse to rule Them all)

>>53260227
Yeah, come an have a drink with me in silence

Varien Sinclair
>describe your talents as a Fabricator General
Far less reclusive than the other Fabricator Generals in the Segmentum, I have ensured close diplomatic ties to the local planets in the sector as well the legions within the sector. While the Quest for Knowledge is ever expansive, the Council has agreed to be more restrained in its searches and has opted instead to look towards innovation over rediscovery on our forgeworld of Orsus Secundus. While the process has been slow (even slower than usual since it is without STC data) our innovations have lead to more efficient production across the entire forgeworld as well as the pieces of kit below.
>what is the name of your Forces?
The Mashad Warhost
>What is the composition of your Forces?
Too young to host a Titan Legion, The Mashad Warhost is focused primarily on heavy use of Skitarii with support from the House Batesh located on Orsus Primus. Due the mineral rich planetoids in the system they deploy far more Rustalkers and Infiltrators than other Legionarii. In addition to this there are talks of manipules of strange armor reminiscent of those of the Legions
>what are its main tactics/characteristics?
Deep-Infiltrations of Rustalkers and infiltrators into enemy territory to seed chaos before an Iron Fist of Knights and Null Rangers press into the weakened defenses.
>at the time of the heresy, who do you side with?
Between the Revealing of our Proteus program as well as the false gifts Horus tempted some of our kin with, We chose to stand with others who might embrace our beliefs rather than twist or destroy them.

Cont.

>>53264187
>Describe any special friendships/rivalries your Forgeworld has with any of the other Legions:
Before the Heresy our ties to the Titan Marchers was one of camaraderie and friendship, often supplying the Astartes of this legion with our best equipment and Knights. However since the separation, while there is respect, no longer can we call them friend.

Among our New Allies the Death’s Heads are on friendly terms, with some or our production lines working on crafting their exotic weapons in exchange for them doing the in-field prototyping of new advancements and providing a meager sum of Geneseed to both our benefits. On the one hand we can better improve the Proteus Rangers, and on the other we can attempt to lower the rejection rate.

>what's the major defect in your chapter's geneseed or traditions?
The Dark secret of The Mashad Warhost is their dabblings in the creation of their own Space Marines. Having ‘acquired’ failed samples of the Silver Blades Gene-Seed Pre-Repair, The “Null” pattern Rangers are little more than imperfect Thunder Warriors. Barely stable, the Ossmodula is all but useless while the Biscopea is hyperactive; resulting in un-augmented Rangers being killed as their bones fragment inside their bodies under the weight of their own muscles. To compensate for this major flaw the Fabricator General to begin the small-scale production of ”Proteus” Pattern Power Armor, acting as a life-support and exoskeleton that is grafted directly to the body of the Ranger Inside.

>>53264202
>what is your signature weapon, vehicle, or other wargear, and why?
The “Proteus” Pattern Power Armor is a heavily modified design to the Mark III Iron Armor. As the Body of the Null Ranger is capable of supporting a portion of the weight, some of the more redundant systems in the armor (as the Ranger themselves is also mechanically augmented) have been removed to allow for a feeding system to be fitted below the removable front visor. While this proves as a detriment to the independence of the Rangers, it is another means of controlling the rampaging Ranger inside. In addition to these the “Proteus” Rangers are often equipped with Storm Shields and either an Arc Maul or one-handed Thunder Hammer.
>after the Heresy, what is your Forge World’s major deviation from the Omnissiah?
While we understand the reverence and need to preserve and obtain the information of our predecessors, we can no longer ignore the needs of the Imperium, her people and the Legions that fight for them. The March of Progress cannot be Waylaid any further.
>what blandishments did Horus offer you to try to convince you to join?
The Promise of STC’s and the right to innovate and invent without restraint beneath his rule. However the Horrid Atrocities that were promised by his ‘Innovation’ Could not be ignored

Thoughts?

Another secret a out Deshain Kane:

Usually he follows a cultural habit from bis destryoed homeplanet. He smokes. Cigarettes vor cigares, if not smoking you See him creating a cigarette. It calms him and let him focus.

And unbeknownst to bis Brothers and even to bis own sons he has a a garden on his glorianna class ship. He enjoys to grow things but he even More enjoys to rip the weak out and cultivate the strong.

>>53264187
>>53264202
>>53264216
Looks cool, bro! I'm with it.

>I bet we are recovering that gene—seed

>>53264278
>not vaping

>>53263567
Cool, glad you like the idea.
Anyone disagree with the pairings I wrote up?
Also will have to think on my guys theme music.
I'm thinking something from Meatloaf.

>>53264700
The way you described his relationship with Raj is legit, so I agree with you there. Fun to see someone who actually kiiiiind of gets along with Mot.

Anyone have some musical suggestions for the Titan Marchers?

>>53264804
Something of 2 Steps From Hell?

>>53264547
Too healthy^^

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Drawfagged my Legion's emblem.

Sorry for the shittery

>>53265304
Nigga, can you draw a straight line?

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>>53265304
This should be that helmet

>>53265313
Nope. Worse if I'm doint a quick sketch

is this au going to have a council of nikaea equivalent?
If so should we have their views on the issue as a prompt?

>>53265374
It's pretty integral to what drives the CoH to chaos so we'd need to have something similar.

>>53238307
Realised that I've not posted anything here about Valorn's backstory, so here's a quick summary
>Landed on the Feudal Planet Taiga and was adopted by one of the planet's noble families: the Arkans
>was more or less conscripted to aid the nobles in a civil war against the rebelling peasantry.
>Switched sides halfway through the war after it became apparent that the nobles were A:lying about the fact that the rebels were committing atrocities whilst the nobles committed atrocities themselves and B: unfit to rule the planet - at least in Valorn's eyes - seeing as the nobles atrocities had no real negative effect on rebel moral, yet the nobles continued to enact them. This was unwise, in Valorn's eyes.
>managed to convince his brother to go with him
>Helped the rebels win the war, but never took control of the movement or the planet
>a few years later found out that an asteroid the size of a moon was headed to the planet
>found this out from the Emperor during their first meeting, so that put a damper on their early relationship.
>Managed to evacuate about a third of the planet's population before the asteroid hit, including his elder brother and adopted son, both of whom would later become Pale Hounds.
>only managed to get so large a number off world thanks to the aid of the Pale hounds, who turned up to meet their Primarch and got conscripted into the evacuation effort.
>after making sure the survivors were in good hands he gave his legion a new paint job and sent a communication to the Emperor, seeking orders for his new forces.

I'm writing up a longer more in-depth version, but that's taking longer than I expected.

>>53265323
I think the helmet alone makes for a fine sigil already. The one you drew might be a bit too detailed for a shoulder badge.

>>53265374
We do, though the details haven't been decided on. I posted Raj's thoughts on Nikaea in the first thread, but I might reiterate them here. Having everyone's thoughts on Psykers is a good thing.

>>53265773
Je'she would most likely vote against the librarius. Although he would do it with a heavy heart, knowing full well the possibilities of exploring the human potential for otherworldly greatness

>>53265802
Raj would be conflicted as well. He perfectly understands the dangers of the Psychic powers, but to him it is not much different from more experimental fields of research and science. His patience and willingness to forgive mistakes means that during the Council he would speak out lightly in favor, but once the Heresy kicks off, he would be unrelenting and have to be stopped from purging any Psyker in his legion.

The psychic power is what makes the emperor so powerful. So Kane wants that power too. If not for himself, then via his marines. He himself has no real talent as psyker. You could say his marksmenship is enhanced by some latend psychic powers, but that is it.

Later one he might establish khorne psykers who use bloodmagic. Yes gunzerkers and blood mages!!!!

>>53265918
Once they go for Khorne, go full 90's edge and name the champion Blûdgun.

>>53265869
Antaloc would be against the use of librarius and against psykers in general seeing them nothing more than mutants which he despises

>>53265773
Valorn would vote in favour of the Librarius. He would see having an Imperium that is ruled by a psyker and yet does not allow Psykers to join its staunchest protectors as a foolish hypocrisy similar to the ones enacted by the nobles of Taiga. As such he would prefer to have psykers in his legion, if only to ensure that the Imperium did not meet the same fate as Taiga's noble families, which he would see as a possibility if the Librarius did not exist.

>>53265773
Well...maybe. I like the other as a shoulder badge, tho. Maybe simplified

At the Council, Linares would vote in favor of the Librarius, as he thinks that psykers are powerful individuals that require training and knowledge. The Librarius would provide both.

Lambach would obviously vote in favor of the keeping his librarians.
He will be gutted when the edict passes to ban them.
If we decide that the libraians are kept I'll think of something else to contribute to his turn.
However in a recent short story about Mortarion I think they implied that Nikeea would always end only 1 way and it ws meant more as a show to appease magnus and the others but Big E always planned to remove the psyker aspect from the legions.

>>53266439
Even Big E can't just say Psykers are banned if pretty much everyone that speaks is in favor of them though… there need to be some dissenting voices.

>>53266494
Yeah, which is exactly the point of Mortarion. His entire role.

>>53266439
>>53266494
>>53265773
>>53265802
>>53265977
>>53266140
Keep in mind, the Council of Nikaea is as much a trial of Magnus the Red as it is anything else.

Who is likely to be our Magnus equivalent out of this bunch, the one most likely to introduce the use of psykers to the Legions in the form of Librarius departments?

Who are the most likely candidates to stand against that and resist inclusion of psykers?

>>53266556
To be entirely fair, Raj probably wouldn't even attend. He has no strong opinion on Psykers, plus his legion would move across the galaxy so much, he really wouldn't have time. As such, he can't be either of those voices.

My memory's a bit hazy, but which Legions/Primarchs are full blown psykers?

>>53266556
Definitely Emil, I would say. I mean, the Steel Souls' shtick is psychic powers.

As for the Mortarian/Russ rival equivalent, I'm not so sure

>>53266556
Antaloc would be the most obvious to represent the against side I think.

>>53266600
Pacha is a psyker, his plantsinging making harvests more bountiful and using his powers to boost his defense and offense being obvious signs, and similarly his Legion incorporates low power psykers in considerable numbers.

We can give the council a different meaning from the cannon universe. And a different result

>>53265773
>>53265374
L'Ancien is likely to speak against Librarium departments, if only to keep the legions of his brothers on a leash. If psykers are to be used, then it is best that they are lesser minds that can easily be controlled and directed by all of the Emperor's sons equally rather than putting all of that power in the hands of a precious few.

By this point however, he and other separatists are probably solidifying their plan to cede from the Imperium. The dismantling of Librariums would cripple or at least weaken certain loyalist (or soon to become traitor) legions. Meanwhile, due to how closely connected they are with the Astra Militarum, the Sovereigns would be able to take advantage of psykers present in the baseline human population and gain a solid advantage over other legions.

>>53266800
The Council of Nikaea is vital for the relationships between Primarchs and the future of the Imperium. What kind of change would you be thinking?

>>53266895
Just a slightly unrelated thought, I personally think "the Sovereign Legion" sounds better than just the "the Sovereign". Plus, the Sentinels are another stoic, single word legion that starts with an S.

>>53267211
With kind of similar doctrines, coincidentally

>>53267211
Not being a trial per se, and the decision taken.

>>53267222
They have fundamentally different attitudes and aesthetics. One comes across as an altruistic protector, the other as an arrogant ruler. There's enough difference between the two that I don't think either is redundant.
>>53267211
Sovereign Legion, then.

>>53267446
I mean the doctrine of grand strategy and build up of infrastructure. The personalities are very different, as are the perspectives and reasoning behind said doctrines

Similar enough to be rivals and different enough to be cool ;^)
Also namefagging is allowed here. It makes it easier to have cool chats and be bros

>>53264497
Thanks! Glad you like it!
Any ideas of thing I might want to add? Maybe write up another forgeworld near the future tau for extra Tek-Heresy?
I'm all ears.

>>53268055
Also, I don't mind organizing some of the Legions and whatnot in the document, just for ease of reference.
Doing that now.

>>53266556
Emil and Lambach could perhaps argue together to keep the Librarius? They seem like the two heaviest hitters for warp driven powers, correct me if I'm wrong?
Also I'm not entirely sure of Emil's back story but I think he and Lambach have a lot in common, both favor Librarians in our forces, Emil focuses on cybernetics while Lambach focuses more on dreadnaughts.

>>53268055
That would be nice, I think. Lots of Tek-Heresy there. Maybe supporting the Silver Blades modifications pre-secession?

One thing I'm noticing, is that so far everyone has taken either a hard pro or anti stance on the Council. That's not how the canon version goes.

In canon, only 7 Primarchs attend, with the other legions only represented by equerries. Even then, people take more nuanced stances, some strongly in favor, some strongly opposed, but others ending up neutral, or slightly in one direction.

Don't feel like your Primarch or Legion needs to take a super strong stance.

>>53268204
Due to the fact that L'Anicen is dreadnought-bound (for reasons I am still pondering), he is unlikely to attend in person but his representatives will still express a moderate anti-Librarium stance, while still favoring use of psykers elsewhere in the Imperium.

>>53268363
About him being Dreadnought bound... what's the reason you're going for that? I mean, I get it, a Primarch dread is neat... which it why it's been done by both other AU's.

Alright! So as of this post we've got the following:
>20 Named Legions
> Tentative yes to a Separatist Forgeworld
>6 Loyalist Legions
>5 Traitor Legions
>5 Separatist Legions
>3 Undecided
>And 1 Legion still to be added

>>53268465
Looks sick-as

Also..
>SENTINELS UPDATE
Finally getting around to fleshing out Je'She's character more. Will finish backstory tomorrow, and then work out legion stuff

>>53268204
If there's a bunch of (perceivedly useless) politicking and scheming built around the council, it might convince Mot to abandon the Imperium wholesale. Whether this happens or not, I think he'd send an envoy instead of appearing in person. I'll write up a legion equerry for him in a little bit.

>>53268204
>>53268363
>>53268556
All manner of Equerries and ambassadors sounds awesome, we just have to keep in mind it would be most likely the three warmasters would be there for such an important discussion/trial

>>53268593
The Council, in canon, takes place before Ullanor, so before Horus becomes Warmaster. In fact, Horus doesn't even attend.

>>53268411
Two options:
>A confrontation with another Primarch before the Heresy occurs that leads to him requiring storage in a life support sarcophagus. This depends on whether anyone feels like being a key rival of L'Ancien.
>The other idea is that the reunification with his Legion doesn't go well, especially considering the rather unorthodox changes he inflicts on it - making it function as less of an army and more of a leadership caste that he disseminates among the Imperial Guard. A handful of high-ranking Legionnaires might attempt to assassinate or overthrow him during an early point of his reign. They might almost be successful, permanently crippling L'Ancien.

>>53268638
Do you think we should have our Nikaea after the Warmasters are appointed? Thus making it a crucial point in the separation of the three space marine factions

>>53268658
I think it would be really cool having The Sentinels and the Sovereign Legion being rivals. They both have similar large scale tactics but very different values and ways of effecting military force. What kind of confrontation were you thinking of in particular man?

>>53268660
Certainly, if this is all happening late in the Crusade it has given each Warmaster time to jockey with each other as well as secure loyalties with their future allies. So while on the surface there is clear loyalty to the Emperor, the lines are being drawn and Nikaea is the match that begins the chain of events.

>>53268658
I don't think you properly understood my reply.

My point was that I've seen a Dreadnought Primarch twice before, Hektor Heresy's Golgothos and Imperium Asunder's Sarco Funerus, and so I'm kind of uninterested into doing it a third time. What do you think making L'Anicen a dreadnought really adds to him?

>>53263703
Loving it. Why didn't I think of that?

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>>53268363
>Due to the fact that L'Anicen is dreadnought-bound
Every fucking AU.

I love it, but it gets old after the second one.

>>53261039
I was looking forward to having one of the Loxodontii be the archtraitor and overthrow my loyalist/secessionist primarch. I'm not gonna make a fuss if Marduk takes tht role in any shape or form.

>>53268363
A compromise, if I may?
>Have him be merged partially with a strong machine-spirit.
He still loses a majority of his movement but it does allow him to hook-up into the C&C of his legion and better deploy his units.

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>>53269012
This make sense in the context of a Legion based on a regime notorious for it's detachment from its subjects.

>>53269059
Plus, two words.
>Hijack. Titan.

>>53269012
>>53269059
Wouldn't it be possible to reach the same result without making him Dreadnought Primarch 3.0?

>>53269074
>[Raj's distant screaming]

>>53268770
Fair point. In all honesty, it was something that was decided on a whim and does not have much stable reasoning behind it. So I'm willing to get rid of the dreadnought part of the character as it does not add much to the Primarch.
>>53268737
With the dreadnought thing potentially not coming through, there's not as much need for it but it could still be fun anyway.

There's probably been one or two situations where they have been present in the same war room, where their different priorities are likely to clash. Je'she is likely to value and want to protect civilian lives and establish defensive fortifications for the purpose of preserving them, while L'Ancien believes that he is obligated to achieve victory for humanity through any means necessary, even if it means sacrificing human lives - whatever he deems to be most strategically sound.
>>53269012
>>53269059
That sounds interesting, although I think that's more suitable as a post-Heresy fate, while scrapping the dreadnought part entirely.

>>53269104
You don't like hijacking of titans, eh?
>[urge to write Anti-Titan Imperial Scions intensifies]

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>>53269074
I am not sure how to feel about this.

On the one hand it's cool, on the other it's just kinda dumb.

>>53269074
>>53269162
>>53269153
>>53269104
Hijacking titans is silly.

>>53269104
>Wouldn't it be possible to reach the same result without making him Dreadnought Primarch 3.0?
Absolutely.

>>53269162
I'm simply talking scout Titian size. And my logic is simple: he is a primarch, he is supposed to be a "Super" superhuman.

>>53269104
Well, we have the Seperatist Mechanicum, they could make a modified terminator suit or something.

3-4 more days until I can start writing.

>>53269172
CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-

>>53269104
Who are we fighting, Brother?

>>53269358
>Who are we fighting, Brother?
Imperials.

>>53269395
oh, damn.

>>53269358
GIMMIE MY CHICKEN WALKERS!
>CRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEE-!

>>53269439
as in walker vehicles that look like chickens, people who walk like chickens or people who walk chickens?

>>53269498

As in chickens that walk.