I'm now starting to think that this COIN PsyOps is like a Power Blade. Yes, it has an edge with which to cut, but it also has a power field to melt.

I sort of want to include a rumor which goes like this
>The crucifixions, the impalements, the gas and flame, all these tools of terror serve a dual purpose.
>The crucified, with their wails and pleas of merciful death, both strike horror into the hearts of those lacking faith in the Emperors's Finest, and allow for the creation of an interdiction zone as the local, leal, civilians stray away from it.
>It is also said that each cross is notched below each arm, so that if one were to turn it onto its side then it would work as a rudimentary shooting position.
>The use of toxins and promethium is not just to inspire fear at what tortures a body can endure and still grasp at life. A heretic need not die to no longer defy the Argo Brigade, simply removing their ability to resist is enough. And if the insurgents are compassionate, then they must either spend two men to care for each one, or drive a knife through each mutilated face.
>And when they realise that these vapours are most effective within cramped conditions they will favour the plains. The perfect environment to sow blooms of artillery.
>And if they scatter to the winds in fear of the holy mutilation they so rightly deserve, then the Brigade reserves it's use of mutilating agents, inviting 'them' back to working in more productive burrows, or continue working with their weakened isolated cells.
>And the impalement of heretics to the sides of vehicles is not so that heretics pause before firing upon their own. Nay! It is because so that when they are fired upon their bodies take the brunt of the impact. Meat shields! In the most literal of tenses.

Does this sound retarded or reasonable?

>>52989751
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV_3Dpw-BRY

>Middle Lieutenant Bie Lao of the 5th Hua Yuan Exterminators tapped his fingers absentmindedly to the beat of the music blaring through the internal comms of the Taurox Prime on the wide dashboard, bobbing his head as the convoy raced past the ruined landscape, rolling fogs of gas concealing fields and fields of ruined city. The 5th Exterminators had been deployed to assist in the retaking of Calidad 8 from the Tau Empire, who had used humans insurrectionists to gain a foothold in the planet. Due to the sheer size of the manufactorum planet and the spreading rebellion, the Munitorum saw fit to deploy a second regiment to augment the mission of the unit already planetside. Apparently they had things well in hand enough that calling upon an Astartes chapter would have been unnecessary and frankly wasteful, but the 5th was already passing through the system returning to Hua Yuan after purging a planet riddled with a Genestealer cult.

>The unit in question was the 77th Argoan Peacekeeper Brigade, but everyone knew them simply as the Argo Brigade, because there wasn't any other in the known Imperium. Relentless, ruthless, and deadly, the small unit was already a quiet legend long before the Imperium had found Hua Yuan in all her festering glory. Small and well equipped, from what the young officer could tell the two units couldn't be any more different. While the Exterminators as a whole prefered to keep their operational tempo at a breakneck speed to deny the enemy time to react the Brigadiers had a patient and methodical approach to the enemy, rarely running missions back to back and almost always stopping to fortify claimed ground. Even in battle they seemed to have more in common with Necron than the Exterminators; the Exterminators sprint into enemy lines in a dazzling display of firepower and athletic coordination, disorienting and overwhelming the enemy.

>>52990086
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXtujxT9rzA

>The Argives by contrast would prefer to take cover and pelt the enemy with return fire while another element executes a swift flank. Such measures often produced more enemy casualties than confirmed kills, but after seeing them after combat...Bie Lao was convinced this was by design. Nothing separated the two units more than how they saw other humans. Sure, Gardeners by and large have tremendous pride in their homeland and tend to be a little brusque towards foreigners, but if you have good music and better drink you can buy the friendship with relative ease. The Argives on the other hand only really seemed to relax around their own number, even the non-Argive Brigadiers. Towards others they seemed...almost predatory, as if constantly looking for some hidden heresy to crucify you for. In the case of the Exterminators and their Xenon, they were all lucky that it was as close a secret as it is...

>Perhaps that's what made the Lieutenant so uneasy around the Argives, not just because of their haughty attitudes or fine equipment, or even their excruciatingly boring approach to combat. It was the torture. It was almost like the Exterminator trophy hunting, Bie Lao thought as he stroked the gaunt skull fitted onto his shoulder, but it wasn't meant to show skill or status, it was to build fear. Fear and disgust. And it worked. The last thing Bie Lao wanted was to have to fight the Brigadiers and survive lest he end up upside down on a cross, or on his side with a spear lodged through his ribs. The convoy screeched to a halt as they neared a small traffic circle at the end of the dusty road. MLT Bie Lao, in the lead vehicle, hopped out of the garrish, trophy littered vehicle, hitting the ground with a hard thud. Awaiting him in the circle, where the Brigadiers.

>>52990127
>The Brigadiers sat in their Tauruses blocking the streets into the circle, the turrets of the light vehicles pointed down the roads leading to the circle, as the lieutenant jogged up to the halted brigadiers he saw that there were a few guns pointed his way, which made him none too comfortable. Only adding to his apprehension was their uniforms, which lacked any of the typical blue or red and instead were a uniform dark drab. As he neared the end of the street the vehicle at its mouth came to life with a purring engine. And a mounted weapon pointed straight at him. From the mounted turret came a single shout in Low Gothic, "Crimson!". The Lieutenant halted and shouted back, "Eagle!". He had been briefed the challenge and pass for the day over a secure vox channel in code briefed to him the day before, the verbal Vox cipher was meant to be changed weekly, if possible. Bie Lao pondered a unit such as large as any Hua Yuanese one utilizing so many security measures without something going wrong. He shuddered at the thought.

>The Tauros pulled into the traffic circle, and one of the brigadiers dismounted from the vehicle, waving the convoy into into the circle. As the convoy rolled along the brigadier approached the lieutenant, "Captain Keterov, Delta Company Cav, 277th. Seems like you lot didn't die out there." Bie Lao, "Sorry to disappoint, Sir. Middle Lieutenant Bie Lao, 1st Company 505th." The Gardener offered his hand to the captain. It did not reciprocate. The Brigadier turned his back and walked back to his vehicle. "Your men better be good to go Lieutenant, we've been here far too long. You lot took your sweet fucking time." "We ran into some resistance, sir." "Is that an excuse, soldier? I thought the Exterminators were fighters." Bie Lao, grimaced, "No, sir." The Cav Scout regarded him with a soulless eye from his gas mask, "No that's not an excuse? Or no, you Exterminators aren't worth your collective weight in shit?'

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>>52989751
Beat me too it lol

>>52990045
You lost me after
> or drive a knife through each mutilated face.

>>52990145
Taurox is both singular and plural

>>52990592
...that looks super familiar

>>52990045
>Meat shields! In the most literal of tenses.
Sort of like covering a tank in sand bags or using spaced armour.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaced_armour

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>>52990698
Yea I recolored an IG infograph from an 80s codex

>>52990725
>80's codex
That's from the Imperial Infantrymans Uplifting Prime m8.

>>52988954
>>52988991
Depending on how many people attend the parade it could be a good time to launch operations since the field has been cleared. Maybe the parade is used to make internment seem more attractive to those who haven't volunteered already.

>>52988954
As far as the Anti Armor rifle being unwieldy I was thinking about it being based off of the Skitari Arquebus just not a crazy lost-tech version, just like you can upgrade a unit of a squad with rocket launchers or a heavy flamer

>>52988991
I like the parade idea, the population would think "Maybe these guys aren't as bad as I've herd" The clowns are way overkill but lining certain streets with bodies as a way of creating psychological walls is really interesting.

>>52990773
I meant to say 80s-90s, found it on google and was taking a guess from the way the letters can be seen through the pages and the over all look. Damn that's from 08

>>52990698
>You lost me
I was trying to convey the idea that these acts of brutality actually serve practical purposes. The flamers and sprayers apply the minimum amount of force to incapacitate an enemy, rebels are nailed to vehicles more for impromptu armor than PsyOps, etc.

>>52990592
love it

>>52988954

Also on Ogryns and their ilch, they can be classified under the Auxiliary corps, made up of those recruited from the local population. so the Strength would be 7000 Argo Brigs plus Auxiliary forces

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Don't you guys think that we should start filling out the wiki?

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>>52989751
Mon'keighs that seem even more insane than the Chaos worshippers. How quaint.

>>52991873
UPSIDE DOWN AND SIDEWAYS, XENOS SCUM.

>>52991672
I'm working on some stuff and have some work I'll be doing on it but feel free to put stuff in now and I'll also organize it all together

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>>52991977
>Implying you can take me

>>52991873
Good lord who drew that face? Its horrible.

>>52992087
I might have been drawn here. Macha is pretty much /tg/'s Farseer.

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>>52992131
I misread that as
>Macha is pretty much /tg/'s Frasier

>>52992065

Did we ever resolve the part about the hidden caves/ vaults filled with Xenotech? I know that a few people didn't want to touch on that because it would make the brigade look like a bunch of hypocrits, and I know that much of the random lore was filtered out (all of the "muh dik" posts), however this seemed like something that could be worked in somewhere for the better. It doesn't really even need to be their Xenotech stash, it's just that the background was meant to be random and I feel like we need to work with everything feasible from the beginning in order to do it "right" (if there is such a thing for this).

>>52993978
No xenotech, for the love of all that is holy. Please no.

>>52993978
Please keep that extra heretical shit out of it

Anyone remember that chapter rolled up like a year ago where they put daemon hearts in their chests

>>52993978
You could play it up as a trophy hall of stuff taken from the aliens they've crucified. They don't do heretical stuff with it, just keep it to remember their victories.

>>52993978
Some suggested the Ad Mech had a those caves, and I even saw a post about the Brigade blackmailing them. However Xenotech is kind of a blanket term that limits what we can say, but if we get specific we can do more than say "Its the Brigade's dark secret!" or "Its the Ad Mech's dark secret!".

First off I think it would be best to say the xenotech is Eldar or Tau since our regiment has lore involving them. Second off I see a few options for what the story of the caves is now that we are specific.

Maybe the secessionist movement was backed by the Eldar (or Tau if it was post heresy) and the caves were a way of hiding the foreign support the rebels were receiving until the time was right.

Or maybe the caves belonged to the Argo loyalist who, being cut off from the Imperium at large and low on supplies, used caves to stash looted gear during their insurgency.

However the above point could also invovle the rebellion not being Eldar (or Tau) backed but that the chaos of the situation was exploited by them to get what they were after strategy wise. Yet the Brigade used the appearance of a 3rd force on the field to win over support for the loyalist faction and fight of the xeno invader.

Further still is the option that the caves contained some Eldar (or Tau) mcguffin that they wanted to use in a ritual on the planet (or just retrieve it) when nobody was looking and the rebellion seemed like the best time for it. This can tie into the heroic deed that some anon said he is writing up.

>>52994739
>Or maybe the caves belonged to the Argo loyalist who, being cut off from the Imperium at large and low on supplies, used caves to stash looted gear during their insurgency.
This could involve gear looted from mercenaries not just Xeno patrons.

>>52994739
I would say no to xenotech on the whole, it really just serves to muddy a pretty cohesive history.

However as to the time period of the succession, what about during the history?

I know the written history says that it was the system's governor's idea to succeed, but what if he was convinced by the Magos of the Illiusian forgeworld to join with Horus since he had already been turned to Chaos by the Fabricator General?

>>52994925
>during the history

During the Heresy, I mean

>>52989751
I just looked at the wiki and we don't have an entry on the Imperial Guard page redirecting to the brigade. Can someone who make good word sounds write it?

>>52995109
As autistic as he is, even if I do agree with his points as shittily as he presents them, Arbites may be the one for the job

>>52990900
Definetly the parade sounds something that Argo would do. Would be a huge propaganda event that we need.

>>52993978
I agree that we should try to make it work but if people dont like it then we should drop it out.

It could be that during the rebellion Argo Brigade found the cave with all the xenotech (maybe stash of mercenary xenos group) and handed it over to AdMech. That would make them think "Hey these cints arent that bad" and started our beautiful friendship with them.

>>52995132
And lets stop this badmouthing all together here. People have different opinions. Lets try to keep it civil for this new thread.

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Would the Argies be responsible for CORDS or Green Beret type training of civilian militias and irregulars?

>>52989751
>>52989757
Did the last thread get archived?

>>52995571
At least it says it archived

>>52995657
That is the on site archive that flushes after a while. A suptg archive is permanent and needs to be done manually.

>>52995562
I could see it possible. Looks like a job for intelligence/psyops battalion.

>>52995702
Okay good to know. Someone who knows how to do it go for it.

>>52995562
I know most people hate the idea but in my organization proposition there are Echo Companies within the standard Peacekeeper (Infantry) companies. These Echo Companies house the Battalion Commissariat (Due to the hardline nature of the unit they can use Commissars sparingly, more like Battalion XOs than Platoon leaders ever present in the unit), the battalion Intelligence apparatus and the Military Police.

Due to Commissars being a thing the Military Police function differently than what one would see in a rl army. Military Police, Just like the Blue Helmets stem from PDF tradition, where they worked alongside the Adeptus Arbites to maintain law and order on Argo, and later uphold the law when the Argoan Courthouses fell and the Arbites presence on Argo was reduced to nothing until after the Purge.

To that end, the Military Police act on the populace of the current theater and usually act hand in hand with Human Intelligence (Interrogators and for lack of a better term Informant Wranglers) and Psychological Operations, to affect, subjugate, and pacify the populace while Peacekeepers actually fight belligerents.

Part of this Trinity, as much of a part of it as it is outside it, and indeed outside conventional brigade structure, are Special Task Force units, small squads that often work with Air Cav and the Recon Cav Scouts as much as they do the Intelligence/Secret Police apparatus.

Special Task Forces are often given the mission of taking out High Value Targets, performing deep enemy recon far beyond the abilities of the Delta Companies (the Mounted Cavalry Recon mentioned previously), and infrastructure sabotage, to name just a few possible mission sets. Given very few parameters to complete their mission an STF will often work with Human Intelligence and PsyOps to generate a counter insurgency of their own to divert enemy resources from fighting their Peacekeepers and create another front for the enemy to work on.

>>52995768
I don't know how to do it, i just know what it is.

>>52995922
It's easy as fuck, just drop the OP post number in the box it says to, name the archived thread, add a one sentence description, and like 3 tags

>>52995562
The idea of getting the civilian population to help purge the planet has been int he threads form the beginning. Though I don't know the specifics of who would organize and or train civilians or how it would be done (that is if they are trying to control it and not cause hysteria that makes people value the brigade's stability).

An example from the last thread
>On a side note it was said earlier that the Brigade might "encourage" civilians to join in the killing so they can recruit the best fighters. This makes a lot of sense to me given their strong sense of tradition and history as an insurgency, but if this is a recruitment practice of theirs why stop there? Why not extend this kind of recruitment to exemplary PDF and Arbites?
> this way is not just for tradition but also for practical reason such as the fact they are on a world and will take losses there, that you can't train real world experience, and that people who have had their lives shattered by rebellion will know a hate that just can't be replicated in peace time.

>I agree with this 100%. Injects new blood into the regiment even during a conflict and can help foster a more diverse selection of tactics

>this is good!

>>52996198
This also relates to internment ctrl+f "intern" dump follows:
>The regiment might intern civilians who prove their loyalty, or at least the elderly and juvenile, because someone has to plant the seeds and carve the crosses. Also by interning children the regiment can make sure those children learn (are brainwashed) to be good emperor revering imperial citizens (ImperatorJugend), and they have the family members they need for an instant retaliation doctrine to be more personal to their targets.

>What if the of internment of the weak isn't just about clearing the field, indoctrination, labour, and simple leverage, but that the leverage is designed to make people fight harder and the best members of citizen militias are offered full recruitment for the guaranteed life and prosperity of their families.

>>52996198
>>52996256
And then all that gets facilitated by Arbiter's Military Police dudes and Interrogators and PsyOps and such >>52995845

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Imperial guard Scions would make great minis for these guys

Look these guys even have berets, stick a blue helm on that skull for those servos we were talking about

I have some thread reading to do to catch up

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>>52996544
Forgot pic

>>52996001
Someone has archived it, yay.

>>52995845
Could you copypaste your organization idea on this thread as well?

You got solid thoughts in there. Id imagine that they would closely work with engineer/crucifixtion companies when "parades" are being held.

Yea definetly STF would do these type of missions. Mounted Cavalry Recon would probably in charge of stuff like scouting areas, find enemy targets for STF and missile strikes.

>>52996558
>>52996517
Damn, they definetly fits our aesthetic. Would these be our Valkyrie drop troops? Definetly would have the more beefier look than the normal troops.

>>52996628
Our Argonauts? Yea they could fill that roll pretty well

>>52996650
Hell yes! Imagine a rebel compound. Squadron of Valkyries rolls in blasting the shit our of it with missiles and dropping these guys in there to finish the job.

>>52996628
Im gonna be referencing their codex a lot when building ours, they're perfect as elites, the death korp even calls theirs grenadiers

>>52996591
>>>>77th Argoan Peacekeeper Brigade (The Argo Brigade)

>>>177th Peacekeeper Battalion (221st/The Justicars)
>>Alpha Company (Aljernon's Ardent) Infantry
>Six Platoons (Infantry, Mortar teams, medics, etc)
>>Bravo Company (Bia's Bastions) Infantry
>Six Platoons
>>Charlie Company (Cairon's Chosen) Infantry
>Six Platoons
>>Delta Company (Deimos's Defenders) Recon Cav Scouts and Air Cav
>Six Platoons (Tauroses, Bikes, Sentinels, Valkyries etc)
>>Echo Company (Epiphron's Endurers) Military Intelligence+Military Police
>Three Intel Platoons (Human Intelligence, PsyOps, Signals Intelligence)
>Three MP Platoons (Canine+EOD+Police, Commissariat, Special task force)

>>>277th Peacekeeper Battalion (The Punishers)
>>Alpha Company (Armageddon) Infantry
>Six Platoons
>>Bravo Company (Braves) Infantry
>Six Platoons
>>Charlie Company (Crucifiers) Infantry
>Six Platoons
>>Delta Company (Deathdealers) Recon Cav Scouts and Air Cav
>Six Platoons
>>Echo Company (Eviscerators) Military Intelligence+Military Police
>Three Intel Platoons
>Three MP Platoons

>>>377th PK Bat (Wildcats)
>>(Animal themed company nicknames, you get the idea how Infantry bats go)

>>>477th PK Bat
>>(Standard amount of subordinate units)

>>>501st Fires Battalion (Artillery, Mortars, and other Indirect and Long Range support elements)
>>(Don't know a lot about Artillery so any help would be welcome)

>>>502nd Fires Battalion

>>>503rd Fires


>>>601st Engineers (Build stuff, break stuff, and also organize and execute mass crucifixions and other "public works projects")
>>(Don't know a lot about Engineer units, but I would say EOD and an MP unit falls under them)

>>>602nd Engies

>>>603rd Engies

>>>701st Armoured Regiment (Tanks and other Armored vehicles like Taurox)

>>52996821
>>>801st Auxilia (General support with medical, engineer, MP+EOD, intelligence, and Force Protection companies meant to supplement other battalions either to bolster forces when necessary or recoup losses. This Battalion also provides logistical support like cooks and paper pushers as well training for Auxiliary Peacekeepers recruited in Theater before integration into a real unit, Peacekeeper or otherwise)

Should I repost the Uniforms as well or does no one care?

>>52996727
Perfect!

>>52996821
Thanks mate. Will be easier when we talk if we want use this. As far what my opinion on this is that I like it. Some people might dislike due to amount info in there and prefer simpler organization table. Lets discuss in orderly fashion yes?

And go ahead if you want to, but I think we got most of the uniforms already covered the way that pleases majority of people.

>>52996558
I actually ordered the cape from mega bitz shop and thought Id use it for Lord Commissar.

>>52997004
Fucking sick man, I will be ordering some guard this month and now for sure and building the Argo Brigs

>>52997097
Awesome! Hope this thing carry on long enough to see what we accomplish.

>>52997124
I have the scout art, the commissar art and some full designs I'm doing just today most of my posts have been on my phone because life

>>52997275
You have been teasing us with the art for far too long! Do we need to talk about your loyalty to Emperor and more importantly to Argo Brigade?

All jokes aside cant wait to see what youve come up!

>>52997326
Just look at this >>52990592 a few more times and know that our actions here are blessed my the Emprahs Grace

>>52997382
Thats is VERY sexy looking! I tip gasmask to you sir. No idea how I missed that.

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>>52997425
>I tip gasmask to you sir.

>>52997435

Have come up with anything regarding their home world? Stuff like:
>Politics
>imports/exports
>Tithe to the Imperium
>Who governs it
>It's history
>Cities
>etc...

So decided raid my old ass catachan infantry (from 15-17 years ago) and started to get all the flamers out of them. Also decided to try make the AT-rifle out of lasgun and other various bitz I have. Will post pics when it is done.

>>52996719
>Hell yes! Imagine a rebel compound. Squadron of Valkyries rolls in blasting the shit our of it with missiles and dropping these guys in there to finish the job

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AlEvy0fJto

>>52999250
alternatively

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzQFy7O_5V4

>>52999223
No not yet. Some history is written from the time when Argo Brigade was formed but nothing before that.

++Guardsman Passius personal log 8++

It's been 2 weeks since my company, the Frackian Hellhounds and the Argos Brigade had made planetfall on Gorb-4 in order to "pacify" the planet as the Agronians put it. Honestly I find them quite unsettling, they often tend to keep to themselves, so I shouldn't be really be as...creeped out as I am.


++Log Update++
Me and the lads just got back from a sector sweep and we were greeted by a horrifying sight. Apparently a small enemy recon team had been tasked to provide intel about our base, but it seems like they had been found by the Argo Brigade. We saw them crusified by the gate to the camp, poor Wexley couldn't keep his rasions in, nevertheless we quickly learned to respect ther Argo Brigade, and not to get in their way.
Passius out..

++END OF LOG++

>>52999223
>Politics

Once the center of Sub-Sector wide court intrigue and political maneuvering, Argo is now the iron throne on which the Imperial Rule of Law rests. With the vast majority of the noble bloodlines dead, either during the Argoan Purge or through their time in labor camps off world, the system is governed jointly by the Minutorum via the Argoan Military complex, with the Brigadiers at its fore, and the Adeptus Arbites, with a major Ecclesiarchy presence on the other worlds of Illius X. Through this command there is no risk of the system falling into lawlessness

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>>52999590
Nice! I like it. Simple and effective.

Just got a first draft done for AT-rifle. Not nearly as good as the admech rifle would be its something. Need to add a magazine to it and the handle above.

>>52999476
>Agronians
Argives. Read the threads cuckold

>>53000015
No need to be so rude about it

>>52999223
>imports/ exports
Not sure if economy was covered any more than them being near a Forge World, but if their chemical weapons are more from tradition (their use being necessary during their counter insurgency) than their use as psychological weapons, then that may have something to do with what the planetary economy produces.

>>53000247
Thats a vary good point, havent even crossed my mind. Maybe the planet contained some rare mineral that is necessary for some type of ammution or something. That would explain why the leaders wanted to sell it for the highest bidder and knew they probably would a fuck ton of money. Too bad Argo Brigade was there to screw their plans.

>>53000397
Someone with more loreknowledge probably can come up with something.

Little update on the killteam project, well its no longer a killteam... I ordered a cadian command squad AND a second infantry squad. Was tempted to get skitari rangers box but paying almost 30e for few rifles we need is bit silly.

>>53001566
Could probably find the skitarii bits on eBay if you check

>>53002793
>>53001566
http://m.ebay.com/itm/WARHAMMER-40K-BITS-ADEPTUS-MECHANICUS-SKITARII-GALVANIC-RIFLES-RADIUM-CARBINE-/361532676942?hash=item542d06db4e%3Ag%3AWWYAAOSwq19XDGTa&_trkparms=pageci%253A67e2d14a-2e87-11e7-8a94-74dbd180e349%257Cparentrq%253Ac4be934e15b0ab1cb1f84327fffedf51%257Ciid%253A17

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>>53002839
Trying to find rifles in pic related.

>>53003014
Found some and ordered. Fuck my backaccount. I need these.

>>53003082
Dude, I hate money man. Gotta get rid of it as quickly as possible

When is all this shit supposed to come in?

>>53003121
In next few weeks. I also got some heads coming from Anvil Industries (berets and pasgt helmets w/gasmasks), used Cadian Infantry squad for testing out paint schemes AND various different bitz from Mega Bitz Shop. I think these might keep me busy for awhile.

I also found few grenades that Argives(?) might like.

Hallucinogen Grenade

A Hallucinogen Grenade fills its area of effect with an invisible hallucinogenic gas, causing anyone breathing it in to experience visions which may have various effects on them, from nothing to running from the field screaming to believing an alien worm is crawling up their leg.

Choke Grenade

The Choke Grenade explodes to fill its blast radius with a non-lethal gas which prevents anyone in the from breathing properly, temporarily incapacitating them.

Scare Grenade

The Scare Grenade produces a non-persistent gas, absorbed through the skin, with affects the nervous system of those affected, producing feelings of apprehension and deep anxiety.

Toxin Grenade

The Toxin Grenade spews an amount of toxic chemicals and biological extracts over an area.

Found on wh40k wikipage.

>>53003259
>Scare Grenade

Throw this inside a bunker and cut the lights and the ones inside might ought just kill each other

>>52993978
Cut the shit with the Xenotech in the hidden caves and vaults. It's gay as fuck and ruins the regiment. No Imperial guard regiment would ever get away with shit like that.

>>52995404
There's such a thing as too much and having caves of xenotech that then get turned over to the AdMech which causes the AdMech to want the brigade's dick is way too much. Plus I thought it was established in the last thread that the Brigade helped out the local forgeworld in the Illius X system after it had cleaned up Argo.

And this is like the 1,000 time I've said this but there are hard limits on the what the AdMech can give the Brigade. An IG regiment with a very postive history toward the AdMech can receive some perks and minor weaponry, maybe even transport in a pinch, but thats usually the extent of it. Unless the regiment is a branch of the AdMech keep the expectations relatively grounded for how much shit they will chuck to the Brigade.

>>53004162
Chill man. We can drop it no worries. Lets not turn this thread into pit of arguments.

Maybe in lines of: AdMech gave some resources to Brigade but not nearly enough so that every soldier would have some. Eg. New improved gasmasks for higher ranking officers and special troops, some special weapons/grenades.

Maybe this can appease Arbites as well as literally everyone else as well as add some depth to the unit, and answer some questions about the homeworld and system.

>The Olde Armour of Argo

>Before the great Argoan Purge, Argo was a land as beautiful as it lavish, great palaces to the nobility embraced by shimmering golden dunes, crystalline river deltas feeding into cities grand and imperial, mighty highways that girdled the magnificent world.

>To adamantium mined elsewhere in the system to vast array of trade contracts with several Rogue Trader Dynasties, the world of Argo was awash with wealth and luxury, which only enabled the nobilities games of court and courtship. Beyond the decadent palaces and sprawling cities of gold and silver, the armies of Argo where as much a status symbols as the famed Sentinel of Argo, a great statue of adamantium in the form of a mighty Terran hero, spear rested against a thick arm, hand sat upon a great circular Shield.

>Though there was a well drilled PDF, the throne world had tithed a few dozen Armored Regiments, although they were simply as lip service to the greater Imperium.

CONT

>>52995562
>>52999590

Due to the Eccelesiarchy's high regard for the Brigade they'd probably be happy to deploy tons of the more action oriented priests like confessors. Maybe via coordination with the Brigade, the priests can be seeded into target areas where they spend some time doing their work preaching and rabble rousing, giving the Argo an opportunity to sort out which locals would be willing to join the cause and which are stable and useful and which are just nuts.

>>53004544
I'm chill, but that xenotech thing keeps on coming up and it just doesn't mesh with the rest.

And by what the AdMech would provide, I just meant that the Argo Brigade would get some serious perks but that wouldn't translate into open access to the full AdMech Armory.

In the last thread we concluded that phosphor weaponry would be an ideal arrangement and that all the troopers could probably get high quality armor and gasmasks. I think Hallucination grenades could also be handy in cases where crowd control is needed.

Haywire equipment would probably be off the table because the AdMech is ultra controlling over that stuff. Equally radium weaponry would probably be a bad idea in general cause muh radiation induced cancer.

I mentioned in the last thread the possibility of the AdMech supplying Breachers (melee weapons/bionics that replace a lower arm) for the engineering corp and STF. Equally with good relations with admech they could probably get a good supply of bionics for wounded soldiers.

>>53000247
>>53000397

Something we should consider is why a desert world of no significant Imperial designation (i.e. a forgeworld, fortressworld, hive world) became the center of system and sub sector intrigue and politics.

>>53004718
Is spot on with this so far. Perhaps the location of Argo was on an ideal warp route that led to the unexplored spaces favored and pursued by Rogue Traders. The planet was in a great position for rogue traders to visit and trade with and so it became wealthy and powerful, however due to the system as a whole being outside the more popular trade routes it never became a wasteland overpopulated hive world.

> One of the most fascinating aspects of Argo is the colored sands. Due to some unknown event or history the sands and desert surrounding the capital city vary in color for simple yellows to rich reds, burning oranges, gleaming whites, majestic purples and soft greens.

> It is often said, whispered around tables in taverns that thats why the blue helmets are blue. Because when they were finally ready to strike and depose the old traitors, they wanted them to see them coming across the colored dunes. The blue helmets marching towards the city and St. Lothar's Court, the old, imposing edifice where the nobles of Argo would meet and rule. Where they would cower as the blue helms overtook the city like a bloody, righteous wave.

>>53004731
Yea desu that sounds better and more lorefriendly. I have a very small knowledge of lore (almost nonexisting) so Im glad that someone more able is trying to make more... fluffsmart?

>>53004718
>The Argoan Armoured Regiments bore marvelous and esoteric armaments, from mighty Baneblades to steadfast Malcadors to the noble Macharius, which in those storied times was the most pedestrian vehicle amongst those honoured ranks.

>Mere centuries after the brutality of the Heresy, the Magos of Vulcus Omega, the lavish forgeworld of the Illius X system, Kalimar Khan conspired to corrupt the System Govenor to leave the sundered Imperium. To his jubilation Dantonius Validici LX had already set in place his own seditious machinations.

>What neither traitor had accounted for was the loyalists that would not accept such blind betrayal. While all have heard the tale of the ardent Brigade and their struggle against heresy, few outside of the Illius system acknowledge the loyalist warriors of the Vulcus Skitarii or the 7th Argoan Armoured Regiment, without both of which the Brigade would not have succeeded in their honourable campaign.

CONT

>>53004992
>>53004718
Now we are going somewhere! Excelent stuff gents!

>>52993978
What if it was xemotech that was locked away during the dark age of technology?

>>52993978
If we wnat to keep that bit of lore then how about this?

When they started to gain control over the sector the heretics and xenos mercs had go hiding. Brigade would have had to go sweeping caves and thought that it was tedious job so they started using flamers and chemical weapons to make it easier. After they eliminated the threat they simply blew/burned/melted it all up and went to the next cavesystem to clear it from all that xenoscum and crusify the bunch.

you....you fuck wads! Now I want to start ANOTHER guard army.

I just started Paetorians for FUCK SAKE!

>>53006720
Join the Argo Brigade. We got crosses and pikes.

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>>53006831

I am so tempted...

On a side note, I have found good heads to use. Combine these with cadian bodies you have perfect regular troopers. Perhaps add some backpacks. I tend to save those for veterans though.

Link for Heads:
http://www.pig-iron-productions.com/kolony-militia-heads-p-13.html

>>53006961
No stop it! Ive already spent too much money on this!

>>53007020

MATE I JUST SPENT 200+ QUID ON PAETORIANS... and now you lot make me want to start another guard army.

>>53007041
You might be the only one to ever run a praetorian army

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>>53007710

Its just cadians with historical miniatures heads.Near impossible to get the originals I have about 4 total.

>>53004992
>>53005734

So what exactly is the timeline of the Argo Brigade. I was under the impression that the actual formation of the Brigade is relatively recent.

Can I get some clarification on how old the Argo Brigade is?

>It should be known that while victorious and heroic in their efforts to bring their home back into the Emperor's light, the Argo Brigade did not do so unscathed. Beyond the bodies that were buried, many of the veterans had developed serious issues. Most of those who were scarred were done so in a less obvious way. In fact, briefings by local Astra Militarum commanders who engaged the original Argo Brigade after they had restored their homeworld had concluded that all of the men presented were fit and not a single one was issued discharge or execution orders.

> However the psychological scars would occasionally present themselves. It is well known that the regiment has a rather cold demeanor to outsiders.

> Perhaps one of the more well known incidents was that of the Afton Hall Affair. A company of Argo Brigade were sent to the neighboring system to serve as tactical advisors for the local pdf and IG regiments in the quelling of large scale rebellions. However when the company was presented to the local commander things went down hill.

> The event was held at Afton Hall, the estate of a powerful noble family and financial magnate of the world. Lord Afton had happily provided his estate and resources to the IG. It was during the party following the formal presentation of the Argo Brigade when the 3rd officer of the Argo Brigade snapped. The decorated officer Karson Fant rushed the distracted Lord Afton and shoved him onto a dining table where officer went then grabbed a long silver serving fork and impaled Lord Afton thru the hand.

>Fant was immediately tackled by his fellow soldiers and guards. All the while he was heard yelling, "he's just like the others. He must be made upside down."

>By morning Fant was executed Commissar.

>>53005473
>When the Argoan Purge began in earnest the Skitarii revolted against the Magos and the 7th Armoured, that most auspicious brotherhood, joined cannon and tread with the noble PDF. It was the Baneblades that watered the azure sands of the Erimos Desert with blood enough to grow a sea of Argoan Gorelilies. It was the Vanquishers that broke the supply lines of the Noble forces and drove back the traitor Armoured Regiments.

>But the lone regiment could not hope to withstand the full weight of the rest of the armoured regiments, and so their numbers fell direly. Those that remained until the twilight of the Purge became some of the most skilled and relentless tank crews in the history of the Sub-sector, renowned tank duelists and masters of armoured warfare.

>Almost all the Baneblades fell victim to the overwhelming force applied against them, although they did not go quietly. The lone surviving Baneblade is a storied and legendary vehicle, seen rarely in military parades and even more rarely during times of dire need. When the Purge finally ended in the favor of the loyalists, the few remaining tanks were inducted into the Brigade as the 701st Armoured Regiment.

>Now the regiment consists of mainly of Leman Russ Vanquishers, fit to slay other tanks, however there are a few honoured survivors of the Argoan Purge; a Companies worth of Macharius Vanquishers, a platoon of Leman Russ Destroyers, five Malcador Annihilators, and a singluar Malcador Infernus. These wizened veterans of the Argoan Purge rarely see combat, but when they are called upon there is little in the known galaxy that can survive their combined might.

>>53004718
>>53005473
>>53008654
Hopefully I didn't piss everyone off and this can be canon

>>53008126
Looks good!

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>see OP image
>recognize the krieger

neat. I drew that dude last year. I like to think I've gotten better, I could try and draw up some Argo Brigade dudes sometime.

>>53009815
You can always reprise your work here wink wink

>>53009815
Please do, here's the uniforms

>Flamer troops have the standard uniform, but with a face guard plate bolted to the chest plate of their flak vest, and the gas mask features a visor as opposed to the goggle eyes. The fatigues are naturally flame retarded via sewn in asbestos.

>Melta troops, as well as heavy flamer and the rare plasma troop always wear the Heavy uniform to prevent damage to the user through excess heat.

>Tankers and artillerymen have the standard uniform sans flak vest.

>Intelligence and Military Police sport visor gas masks similar to the Flamer Troops in infantry units, in reference to Arbites that laid the groundwork for their place in the Brigade. Their flak vests match their fatigues with red shoulder guards and a dark body. The helmet assembly is blue as is traditional.

>Cav Scout uniforms, as well as the Special Task Force embedded in MP units lack any blue in their informs, and the red symbolizing the fields of Gorepoppy on Argo is limited as well. Due to their opperations occuring mainly at night the uniform is the same dark camo present in most other fatigues. Cav scouts generally wear the standard helmet and flak vest of rank and file Peacekeepers (infantrymen) to keep a low weight when dismounted so they can return with haste to their vehicle should the need arise. Special Task Force soldiers wear the Heavy uniform due to their usual insertion via Valkerie gun ships and the quick and surgical nature of their missions.

>Engineers likewise have a standard uniform, save for extra equipment used in their projects such as construction tools and repair implements. EOD technicians wear the heavy uniform with a blast shield similar to flame troopers

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>>53009940

I've done a few death korps dudes over the last year or two, but obviously nothing with the particular color scheme.

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>>53010018

shit sorry about the file size

>>53004718
>>53005473
>>53008654
I mean. I like it.

Makes us sound like we have zero tanks, and the ones we do have are tank killers almost exclusively

>>52991672
yeah, it seems like we're winding down, so now would be the best time to gather up everything we have before we move on.

Would anyone object to having the writefaggotry coming at the end of the page? Also, I can make it so that it's all in drop down boxes, so it doesn't take up half the page's length

>>53011183
going off of that should we also think up some notable battles that the Brigade has participated in? Any special characters?

Also where are we on harpoon guns modifications and use of servo skulls/cherubs for gas/chemical attacks?

The Tiberius Pattern Anti-Armour Rifle is a "man portable" stubber-like weapon. Bolt action and magazine fed, the meter and a half long weapon is meant to allow infantry Peacekeepers to combat enemy armor in the absence of Melta weaponry or allied armor. The rifle, nicknamed "the Bunkerbuster", is commonly issued to Recon scouts who may encounter armored resistance and therefore need to be prepared for such eventualities since the armaments on their vehicles are often not enough to combat heavy tanks and walkers such as Crisis Suits or monstrous creatures such as a Talos Pain Enginer as well as breaching lighter bunker walls.

Due to the weapon system's overwhelming weight and the weight of the large calibre rounds, the weapon platform is sparingly issued to standard Peacekeepers.

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All I can think about is DEldar raiding a world that was recently "passified" by the Argos Battalion and being impressed by their work when they discover a quarter of the population crucified upside down on the city buildings and along the roads.
>DEldar face's when

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>>53010005

I realized halfway through I'm probably too intoxicated for this: remember kids, don't drink and draw.

Still here's what I came out with based on the flamer troop.

>>53011835
Oh shit nigga!

>>53011236
I'd say figure out what we have solidified, and jot it down, before we get anything new going

>>53011835
Yoooo that's truly fucking awesome, I've had that saved in my 40k folder for awhile.
Great work!

A land of stark beauty, Argo is split by a great salt water sea that acts more as a great lake, most of the world's water residing in great subterranean aquifers. The sands that cover the majority of the planet are split by the equator, the sands around the equatorial belt are a deep azure, known to the Argives as the Dune Sea, while they take on a more golden hue until one reaches the frigid poles, where the sands are almost a blood red where the snow doesn't obscure them. Those areas are known as the Sea of Fire in the South and the Bloodtide in the northern regions. The waters of Argo are a glistening green. Along the great Kratoan Delta stands the great Sentinel of Argo, argent and stoic atop the sapphire sands.

At his sandaled feet lay a field of the red Argoan flower of many names. The greater Imperium knows them most commonly as Argoan Gorepoppies, a name earned not only through their red coloration but the mechanism of their bloom. Common on the coasts and deltas, the flower will grow upon any source of moisture, but will grow in a stunning red shade when slaked on blood.

>>53011835
More like based flame trooper, am I right?

What does everyone think about this? I like it, but then again I'm the autist with a "tank fetish" >>53005473 >>53008654

What is your problem. Seriously

>>53013177
>>53013022
>>53005288
>>53004544
>>53001566
>>52999939
>>52996969
>>52996544
>>52995922
>>52991977
>>52990900
>>52990700
dont mind me, just here in praise of digits

>>53013230
Whoa, holy shit.

All dem unchecked digits

>>53013230
I'm actually convinced Killteamanon is magic

>>53013230
It's a sign that the work being done here is blessed

You guys need to calm down, the anons doing work on this need to sleep and work sometime.

Good thing take time

>>53011361
another heavy weapon that could be utilize by the Brigade is the Mole launcher.

>Used by the Brigade when assaulting fortified position, the common tactic is begin chemical/gas barrages on the enemy position. Once the enemy has begun to bunker down, the Brigade's teams of Mole Launcher operators will all coordinate their first salvo to take target the foundation of the enemy position in order to collapse the enemy's locations.

>This tactic, known as the Call & Cull is often used on enemy positions of medium to light fortification, i.e. small towns, forts, cities not designed for prolonged sieges. The mole launchers are not effective against particularly strong or highly developed bunkers.

>However, part of the effectiveness of this tactic is that it benefits from the Brigade's careful and viciously patient style of warfare. Their methods of intel gathering, along with coin and insurgency tactics often provide their assualts with more than ample tactical information to best make their strikes as devastating as possible.

>>53013529
Mission entry of A. Black, Acolyte of the Holy Ordos:

>Operation: Blue Grox Snowfall
>"Having been attached to the Argo Brigade for well over 2 months now, I had found myself worrying about losing the trail of [redacted]. The regiment was, slow. The men and women of the regiment were consummate professionals, very capable and competent soldiers, utterly dedicated to the orders of the Emperor. However their way of waging war seems wanting to the untrained eye.

> Since my attachment to the regiment they had gained all of 4 miles towards the target zone. While some would see such a slow pace as indicative of cowardice, soldiers simply trying to run out the clock before they need to be bloodied in the bathes of war, there was no fear in the Brigade. Rather the entire regiment takes a very methodical approach towards war.

>The operations center of the regiment was well fortified and yet it seemed so very...impermanent? It was well established, yet it seemed as if at any moment the entire base could be dissassembled and the entire regiment could simply disappear into the ground.

> It was only after a week had gone by that I had realized that the regiment had been very busy while they were supposedly holding still. Within the short time the Brigade had established this front, they had an extensive network of contacts, information sources, and locals.

> The weeks have been punctuated by sporadic blooms of death in the distance, but no real action, until today.

>The Cobi Mine Weighstation, the only supplied and viable node in the whole region between the Imperial front and the Heretical forces was considerable. Commanding a large space in the arid valley, it had been heavily supplied and fortified by the enemy. My early estimations calculated some considerable losses if the regiment was to stage an attack without any other support.

>and yet they did stage an attack without any other imperial help.

continued

Okay Im awake and ready to do some shit

>>53004718
>>53005473
>>53008654
Very well written good sir. What does other think of this? Im fine with this everyone else is.

>>53010271
Yea would definetly fit the aesthetic of Brigade.

>>53013022
We all have our fetishes.

>>53013872
Mission Entry of A. Black, Acolyte of the Holy Ordos:

> The entire regiment geared up and set out to take the WeighStation. Upon approach of the target the plan began to form. The regiment got into position and then there was just waiting.

> finally the whistling of the wind was interrupted by the sound of gun-fire and explosions. Partisans who had become aligned with the regiment staged an "attack" on the settlement outside of the Weighstation. From our vantage point and high power magnoculars it was clear that the attack was certainly a spectacle. It was more impressive to see just how many of the archenemy began to stream out from the Weighstation.

> I began to worry. It was clear that I had underestimated the numbers holding the target.

> But before I could voice my concern over how costly an assault would be, I heard the heavens scream. The Argo Brigade began it's attack. A series of salvos from the heavy artillery announced the arrival of the Argo Brigade.

>The artillery was launching gas and chemical shells. The striking aspect though, was that the shells were designed with certain features that caused the air rushing past them to scream. It was quite a sound to hear.

> Within minutes large clouds of sickly yellow smoke were visible with the naked eye from our far off position. Through my magnocular I could see many of the enemy troops now hurrying towards their makeshift bastion as scores of their comrades began to fall.

>Then the bastion built on the Weighstation collapsed. The regiment had deployed a number of heavy weapons teams utilizing mole launchers across the valley to close but hidden positions within range of the target.

>in the weeks before the assault the regiment had acquired in-depth knowledge of the entire settlement and facility. When the first salvo of mole launchers went off, they hit the weakest parts of the structural foundation.

> After that it became a slaughter. They called the tactic, the Cull and Call

>>53011361
Oooooh I like this into the fluff you go!

>>53011835
That is a giod looking flamer. Just add some extra armour on Cadian body and we're golden.

I might add that I bought 4 of those skitari rifles that we talked about using as AT-rifles.

>>53013529
I like it. Mortars can HE rounds and mole launxhers specificly for gas/chem rounds.

I'll do a quick summary on pur heavy/special weapons in a moment.

>>53010271
>>53014241
The tanks with chemical cannons which I thought were the main vehicles are anti infantry then the devil dog would be anti armour

>>53013872
>>53014149
*golfclap* you catched the Argo Brigade's spirit nicely in there. I can imagine after the initial assault platoon of chimeras and tauroxes rolls in to clean the rest of the filth and capture possibly knocked out heretics.

>>53008126
You should go with aunt Vicky's but I dig this whole world war vibe, like it's another death Corp and given the crucifixions that fits, maybe just like the praetorians and the skitari we should use bolt action flashlights, and make em hit shot to go with the whole storm trooper thing like like >>52996517

Nothing cooler then scion using >>53003014

>>53014320
The Melta Tanks and Chem Tanks would comprise a large majority of the Armoured Regiments, since Vanquishers are pretty rare themselves, not to mentiom Malcadors and Machariuses

But I think the point of these tanks is specifically for tank to tank warfare, where it's basically sniper battles but in a giant metal box with wheels.

>>53014466
Based on my reasons parts of the threads how many tank battles are they really getting in? I though rapid quieting op populations and pacifying rebellions was their whole shtick

>>53014512
My phone changed readings to reasons

So here is the current list
- Handheld Chem Cannons
- Flamers in various sizes
- Missile launchers
- Antitank rifles aka. "The Bunkerbuster"
- Various gas grenades (Choke, Scare, Toxin, Hallusinogen)
- Meltaguns
- Molelaunchers
- Those drills for bionic arms
- Gas/chem bomb servoskulls/cherubs

Add more if I missed something.

well
they sould pretty dark eldar'ish for me

>>53014512
Not that many. From what that anon wrote, a lot of the Tank Killer anti armor stuff is really more traditional than anything, where as flamer, melta, and chem trucks are going to be the bread and butter of the regiment. So the tank killers are there in small numbers, but get pulled out to crush insurgent tanks. Which if the Krieg campaign is any indication is something that can most definitely happen.

Beyond that, we need something to slap the shit out of Hammerheads and Wave Serpents, and if we go with this >>53008654 then what we have available in reserve is more than enough to engage those classes if vehicles if necessary.

>>53014512
Yeah they rarely get to face that many armour and is rarely needed to deploy the heavy hitting tanks. But it is nice to have that option just in case.

>>53014542
If replace choke and scare with mustard gas gernades, replace weird drill arms with dope ass heavy rock saws

>>53014613
Heretical talk!

NAIL 'IM UP! UPSIDE DOWN!

>>53014642
Idk what drill arms you mean but heavy rock saws are pretty fucking awesome

>>53014542
>>53014642
I'd honestly expect quite a few bionics in the unit. IESs are nasty critters, but with the dosh and nerves of steel that the Brigadiers have I think they can hook them up bionics and get them back into the field

>>53014642
Found those grenades in 40K wiki. One anon suggested a tactic where they would cut power of from a enemy controlled building and throw some scare grenades in there and possible killing themselves or running outside into caring arms of Argo Brigade.

Also drill arms are from AdMech but everything is discussable here.

>>53014688
Thats why I already ordered some bionix arms from Anvil Industry

>>53003259
Scare grenade sounds really fun

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>>52999250
>>52999268
I know I'm late but this is too perfect an opportunity to post a old /k/ meme than to pass it up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlQ6KqTlyfk

>>53015714
Official anthem for Argonauts.

>>53003259
>>53014642
I see the merits of the brigade having a vesicant like mustard gas instead of only nerve agents like sarin which while poisoning the body only damage the lungs and dissipates quickly. Even though real mustard gas is not as fatal as some nerve agents, it can be more of an area denial weapon with a more unnerving (and painful) signature left on those who came into contact with it. Yet it seems it might just be a lore thing if the rules only cover the catch all of "Toxin Grenade".

I think choke gas (which seems to the the 40k equivalent of CS) is perfect for live captures. However I think the psychotropic gases would not be useful for the purposes of apprehending enemies as they would no doubt become far to agitated and violent to effectively detain without risking harm to the Brigadiers or the targets themselves.

I can see the Brigade making use of all of these gases in some way during operations: Hallucinogen to get the enemy to kill each other, Choke to disperse clouds and apprehend targets, Scare to break people's will to attack this small force, and Toxin to just kill. Yet each of these gases could also be used not just in precision strikes but for more blanket coverage: Hallucinogen and Toxin to blunt attacks of overwhelming force, Choke to enforce a curfew, diluted / subtle amounts of Scare to enhance the actions (e.g. crucifixions) and general presence of the Brigade but not just to spread fear of them but to also help spread fear of the rebels so the brigade can be seen as saviors (creating and exploiting a culture of fear to achieve their goals).

>>53011835
Someone put this through an
A E S T H E T I C S filter

>>53019075
We Hua Yuan now?

>>53011361
Took liberty to add this to wikipage.

>>53019283
Since the Brigade is so old I was thinking maybe one of Bross' ancestors was the Lord-Commisar during the purge. Would that be cool if I wrote something about him?

>>53018452
Solid post. I had same thoughts when I was reading the descriptions of those grenades. They could be shot from grenade launchers too and be general info about what type of gases Brigade use in mortar/artillery aswell.

>>53020576
Go for it. There most likely was family members on each side fighting against each other. Its can happen when civil war is raging.

>>53020611

Hey everybody, glad to see the thread is still moving along. I haven't gotten a chance to read a lot of the fluff and green text I've been pretty busy the last 2 days. But glad people are still throwing ideas around

>>53022427
Glad you havent thrown away your hope! Little update on my part! Just received the first Cadian miniatures (the used ones). Expect first model to be shown thos week!

Here they are ready to receive their new colors!

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>>53024096
Photo is nice aswell.

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First try on gasmask. What do you guys think?

>>53024887
I couldn't load it. It's too big, crop it and flip it please

>>53024887
That is fucking awesome, are you going to strip the paint First? Is that a broken bayonet on the gun or a laser pointer?

>>53024946
Have you gotten caught up yet?

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>>53024946
Glad you like it.

Another try and hopefully right side up.

>>53024946
And yes the ones that has the most paint on them.

>>53025172
Uh not really, I'm lurking but really It's only procrastinating from what I should really be doing. It'll be a few hours before I actually go back and see what I've missed and comment/ work on the codex

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just so i can throw something up for people to discuss this was an early idea for the scout I was working, the coloring was only a place holder but then I started a whole different thing.

I like the progress of this very much
Always warms my heart to actually see /tg/ create a chapter (or in this case an IG regiment) and someone follows through and paints the bastards
I was in the original Emperor's Nightmares creation threads way back and this is a nice reminder that occasionally the 40k side of /tg/ can stop shitposting and accomplish stuff

>>53025857
So I think we all like the uniforms laid out here >>53010005


But you know what that uniform is fucking perf for? Expendable Auxilia.

>>53026292
Oh that's a really good idea, even on the table you can use conscripts to represent the auxilliary

>>53026475
>conscripts
Now I want to imagine the Argo Brigade being tasked with securing a penal colony/world that was lost to a planet wide riot

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>>53010005
>>53011835

I did one of a commissar inspired by that one picture of the commissar inspecting his troops, only well... yeah.
gave him the visor mask since I assume commissars would fall somewhere along the lines of military police.

Realized a little too late the "lacked any blue" part so I desaturated it, I prefer this version anyway. I'll post the colored version in a moment anyway.

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>>53026786

color version

>>53026786
We never really landed on a solid uniform or design for the Commissars, but that visor really dehumanizes them which is awesome.

Visor is 2 spooky

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>>53026860

I always thought the French dragoons made for a neat design, especially given that the color scheme meshes. I did a krieger based on the concept before.

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>>53026964

Or I suppose they were called cuirassiers.

the krieger if anyone's interested

Do you think that the Argo brigade crusifies any tyranids, orks, etc if they come across and fight them?

check the 1d4chan page or thread for for a banner with a crucified genesealer
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>>53026786
The commissars were supposed to here blue berets and masks, based on the UN. Corrupted peacekeepers is the whole vibe, berets for the commissars and the blue helms for the soldiers

>>53026786
The "lacks any blue" and whole "police thing" we're the insistent ideas of a singular autist who tried to take control of the whole deign I wouldn't worry about it to much

But HOLY SHIT this is cool

>>53027043
>>53027132
Not particularly, and it all feeds back into why they started crucifiying in the first place and why they continue to do so.

They started to punish traitors, and strike fear into the hearts of others to disuade further fighting. Its a tactic meant to hamstring the enemy's morale to affect their will to fight, which in turn reduces losses for the Brigade, which due to its size can't really take heavy losses.

When fighting Ork mercenaries (its the only situation in which I can see them fighting greenskins) why waste such a tactic on an enemy that can't feel fear? Why pin them up instead of reducing them to smouldering slime so they can't make more spores? Why bother pinning up genestealer cultists who are 100% fucked in the head anyways?

>>53027271
I've never said no blue on Commissars you miserable, tasteless cretin.

>>53027271
Blue is literally the chapter color...er guard color. Whatever

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>>53027132

Berets are harder to draw than I thought, but here's an attempt to adjust it.

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>>53027501

shit, forgot to resize that one, sorry.

>>53027475
That looks pretty bitchin.

Can Commissars wear berrets? I thought Large Hats were strictly enforced

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>>53020576
>>53020611

Back in the first thread I read something which is pretty relevant to this discussion. So I here are links to the relevant posts and propose the original Lord-Commissar be Caius Marcius Coriolanus
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>>52877009

>>53027557

That was my impression too, since commissars are outside the standard IG rank structure.

I could imagine berets being an officer thing though.

>>53027567
Was the movie any good?

>>52993978
I was under the impression that the xeno tech caves were used by insurgents in an ancient war their home planet.

>>53027328
>When fighting Ork mercenaries (its the only situation in which I can see them fighting greenskins) why waste such a tactic on an enemy that can't feel fear?
Its about sending messages to the human population that this is what happens to the enemies of man, nothing can stand against us, and we alone can protect you.

>Why pin them up instead of reducing them to smouldering slime so they can't make more spores?
This is true.

>Why bother pinning up genestealer cultists who are 100% fucked in the head anyways?
So that citizens can see the true twisted xeno face of their rebellion for what it is an attempt to weaken and destroy humanity. While some citizens will have their humanity and bonds of fellowship exploited by their treacherous neighbors biding their time to bring ruin upon this world, the Brigade will remain resolute in its duty. The Brigade will do what must be done, to save those who remain loyal to their species, where others lack the courage to do so. The brigade will save them, their city, their planet, their sector, and the Imperium as a whole from the nefarious plans of xenos who would try to spread their foul influence and corrupt other humans as to create a rot in the Imperium.

So yeah its all about painting the enemy as evil, and the Imperium as strong and with a bitter task.

>>53027830
It was ok, but not something I'd run to be the first in line to see since I got a diet of Shakespeare in highschool.

>>53027475
Nice!

>>53027475
That could be the lord-commissar, does he have a name?

>>53029942
Alec Douglas-Home gets my vote

>>53031444
DIGITS!

>>53029942
>>53031444
>>53027567
Due to the length and the lethality of the Purge on both sides, I think it would be safe to assume that we had a couple Lord-Commisars that led the Brigade to victory in their own ways, each perhaps focusing or founding a single aspect of Brigadier warfare before dying horrifically and the rank passing on to the next big balled motherfucker.

>>53027937
Crucifixion would mainly be for enemies that can be affected on a psychological level, such as Humans, Tau, and Eldar. Even Dark Eldar would look at the Brigade in a more respectful light due to the fucking insanity they levy against civilians.

Nailing Orks up, or puting them sideways on corpse pikes would A) Just make more spores than if you applied thrice blessed promethium and B) would probably just piss them off for being Un-orky or conversely rilling them up because these humans are dead 'ard. The Brigadiers may be stepped in tradition, but every tradition has a purpose. In the case of a Genestealer infestation, the Brigade would probably pull out all the stops and try and Nuke It From Orbit, It's The Only Way To Be Sure. Who they WOULD nail up is literally anyone who didn't pick up an autogun or lead pipe and bring the fight to the nids, as a Commissar would execute a wavering guardsman. This is seriously because you don't have time to fuck around when it comes to Nids, especially Genestealers. You're either fighting, killing, and dying or you're gonna get throat fucked and bolster the enemy forces.

>>53027475
That is perfect! Very good job!

>>53027519
>>53027475
>>53026809
>>53026786
>>53033676
As awesome as it is to receive art, I really do think the Commissars should wear standard commisar uniforms. Kinda keeps the unit from getting too speshul. Hua Yuan suffers especially from this

>>53033851

well >>53026786 appears pretty standard, besides the mask. And I expect commissars would wear gas masks as needed, as seen with the death korps.

>>53034019
Oh no of course, the Gas Mask is a non issue, I'm talking mostly about the coloration.

Commisars tend to be rather standard across the Imperium

>>53033851
I understand that its probably more flufffriendly if Commissars have their hats rather than beret.

>>53034034
Good point. I dont mind for Commissars looking like... well commissars.

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Its probably safe to assume that these commissars would be perfect.

>>53034241
Pretty much, yeah man

Just to clarify, the whole sideways thing is them being impaled through the side with a giant metal tooth pick, right?

>>53034488
Or pikes but yea pretty much.

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Oh, and my candidate for our historical Lord-Commissar, that led the PDF against the entire system and lived to tell the tale, only to die in some ignoble fashion, like a Tauros was left in neutral and ran him over. Or someone dropped a grenade instead of throwing.

Or maybe he went out like a boss, going blade to blade with an Archon, or Crisis Suit or something.

I don't know I just think the name is badass, I can write about his exploits later if you guys like the name. I'm the gu that wrote >>53004718 and >>53012683

>Lord Commissar Damadar Bross, the Roc of Argo, Uniter of Illius X

>>53034557
Ah okay, I guess the 1d4chan page just needs to catch up with the lore then

>>53034667
Or that is what Ive been imagined to the be this whole time.

>>53034651
Melee killing a Crisis Suit, what a way to go.

>>53034557
>>53034667
That's not it at all...its literal sideways crucifixion...and or upside down at the same time

>>53034784
"The endless waves of traitor guard were simply impaled in their formation ranks through their sides with great charnel pikes, then heaved into the air like victorious banners."

Yea technically that is the closest we can get to crusify someone sideways and upside down.

>>53034784
The sideways cancels out the upsidedown friend. Cause either way you end up on your side, not head first. So that's stupid. Besides upside down sucks more than on your side.

Also read the history on the page, you >>53034488 too. Sideways refers to pikes going through the side like a shish kebab of faceless mooks.

>>53034651
>>53034738
As dope as going toe to toe with a tau weeb-bot is, there's something to be said for this ancient aspect of Murder and Law getting taken out in a training accident. Fuckin' grim. Maybe Lord-Commissar Bross died in some pedestrian manner, but since he was such a bad dude in life they built up his death to be some fucking crazy event.

Also, if the Argoan Purge happened a few centuries after the Heresy, then there wouldn't be any Tau yet, right?

>>53034934
True. He would have done this and that, heroic deeds all around and what you in the end? Run over a by a fucking car after the war has ended.

No matter how great you are you cannot escape death.

>>53034651
That is a cool last name

>>53034934
Link where it says metal spikes impailing people, it wasn't that one autists writings that mostly went ignored was it?

Btw it's a joke the goes back to thread one, just accept it. The Argos also hold creative crucifixion competitions


>>53034992
>>53034934
Idk I think such a lame death diminishes the whole idea, doesn't do justice to the legacy of the Brigade

>>53035122
Took this from wiki.>>53034868

>>53035264
Ah I missed that. In the first thread there was a really tongue in check description of the logistics of doing both suimultaniously. I'll see if I can find it

>>53034651
>>53034738
>>53034934
>>53034992
>>53035122

Maybe he is the one who committed our heroic deed as outlined here:
>>52871541
>>52872954
>>52873311
>>52873568
>>52926338
>>52926701
>>52927513
Though as that last linked post states, someone else is supposedly writing it.

Maybe he died at the hands of a civilian or non-argives guardsmen. Something like a sniper, suicide bomber, knife during a handshake with a noble, or an angry mob swarmed him but he went down swinging like the crash site scene from the movie "Black Hawk Down" but maybe with a protest. Maybe this explains why they didn't go back to being PDF after the purge, that they are driven on by a lasting hatred of traitors. It could also explain their indoctrinated distrust of those outside their unit and planet. Something like "Anyone could be capable of such treachery, except those from Argos because our people kill traitors" which suggests systemwide loyalty and a criminal code which contains "Patriotic Duty" as a valid defense for murder.

>>53034934
>The sideways cancels out the upsidedown friend.
see
>>52877650

>>53034934
What if he died shielding a group of cadets from a surprise bomb squid that was part of some left over Orks?

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Soo, I've had an idea about some of custom vehicles for this guys. Since i think they has somekind of "modern" aesthetic on them, Cold War to modern day vehicle might be a perfect fit, like pic related, its Grizzly APC.

What do you think anons?

>>53036261
Ive actually been thinking the same. Could go count-as chimera or maybe Taurox. Is that 28mm scale?

>>53036261
The taurox prime both fits what you're saying and has been picked as one of the units special vehicles. Also a lot of the asthetic and weapons choices go from world wars to early 1960s UN peace keeping forces

>>53036344
Specifically the Prime too, the kind the scion storm troopers use.

>>53036333
>>53036344
>Could go count-as chimera or maybe Taurox

Nice, i thought the same as well.

>Is that 28mm scale?

No, sadly this was 1/35, a bit longer but slimmer than regular Tauroxes. And it was 70s vehicles either, so a bit out-of-context i think.

M113 might be more fitting, but thats already fiddling into Marine's teritory.

Any idea anons?

>>53036569
Russia BTRs might work aswell if there would be something closer to the size of 40K

>>53036569
If im not mistaken 28mm scale is same as 1/56.

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Found one apc in 1/56 scale

>>53037252
Well some people say 1/48 or even 1/35 scale fits better for GW products. I have no fucking idea...

>>53035780
Yes exactly what I was trying to find earlier

>tips gasmask

>>53035069
It's from a short fluff bit written in the first thread about our company's current hero SRGT Bross, that's his ancestor

>>53035122
You're as bad as he is for the most part, always bringing him up

>>53035122
Like, I want to be upset, but 90% of what's on the wiki is written by me.

So Me: 1 You: 0 I guess

>>53037252
>>53037943

Actually, in 1/35, it depends on the vehicles, a shorter M113 or Scorpion might be fit right in, but large stuff like Patton or Bradley might be not a right stuff.

But 1/48 is universal for 28mm's.

>>53035780
Personally I think that story is great by itself.

>>53034651
I think its pretty 40k for this great hero of the Purge to go out like any regular guy, but this anon has the right if it >>53035780

It would be better to have him martyred by Traitors. That kinda guarantees that the unit would be highly indoctrinated against heresy. It's like if George Washington got killed by the British AFTER the Revolution, I don't think we'd ever forgive them for it.

It would be a waste for his death to be this random thing, when it csn be a definitive moment in their history

>>53038439
90% of what's on the wiki needs to be rewritten

>>53039272
Be my guest hotshot

>>53035780
I think maybe the Hero of the Purge shouldn't die such an ignoble death, maybe instead we could go somewhere in the middle and have him fade from public spotlight and memory. Becoming a wanderer, inspiring legends in different ways

>>53039272
>>53039367
Omg will the both of you stop being so fucking cringy, seriously

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>>53039419
They do raise a good point, wiki needs to be filled out, and filled out well

>>53039528
I'm actually trying to do a major synthesis of all the write-faggotry with my own stories. I'm writing a story that takes place in the the trenches of the forge world

>>53035122
This is not me
>>53039272
This is.

Don't assume every anon who has issue with that guy is the same anon.

>>53039528
Is there a way to have drop down menus? Would make a heck of a lot neater looking

>>53039698
Heck yeah!

==Argo==
<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width:1000px">
''[muffled pained noises]''
<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
t;;dr crucifying is fun
</div>
</div>

Try this out

>>53039698
I don't think 1d4chan supports that

>>53039367
Hahaha omg, I've been lurking since thread one, of the 4 major sections on 1d4 you've done like one

>>53039801
>>53039806
I can try that if it works once get to my computer.

>>53039801
>>53039859
It works, though looking at the Template:/tg/-Chaos Forces it seems to use a different syntax to achieve a similar effect.
Sometimes I wish I kept up with my CompSci classes so I could try to understand why instead of scratching my head.

>>53039833
History and the Bross thing. That composes the vast majority of the page, unless you're pretending to be retarded, in which case well done, you got me.

>>53039694
>>53039833
Definitively worse than Arbites now.

At least he produces content, what the fuck have you done but bitch about him? Come up with something better than he can or gtfo.

Requesting pic related but with different kinds of Brigadiers >>53010005 raising a corpse pike with all sorts of xenos pinned on it. It could be an In-lore propoganda piece

You guys think these guys would tangle with chaos all that often? I know most of the time that gets a regiment wippednout by the Big =][= but obviously with the Cadians that isn't the case 100% of the time, right?

Another update on the progress on no-longer-a-killteam project. Received my Cadian Command squad and infantry squad. Also received emails about the various bits being posted to me and they should arrive next week if we're lucky.

Made two more gasmasks today while the kid was having a nap and some other various stuff related to modelling these lads. Will try some base designs tonight while waiting all that greenstuff to harden up.

>>53040208
Given the brigades purpose, history and function id go with a strong no

It doesn't make sense

There seems to be some confusion on the sideways aspect of the crucifixion practiced by the Argo Brigade, which is odd given that I'm pretty sure that was sorted out in the first thread.

Normally you'd crucify someone facing the people you want to put fear into. Doing this to multiple people means they're all fingers tip to finger tip. This is an inefficient use of space, so the Argo Brigade mounts people sideways along the roads. Each is facing the back (or face) of the person next to them, onlookers are looking at them from the side. You can fit way more crucifixes along the side of a road by mounting them sideways.

The upside down part is also more efficient. The center of mass on a crucifix is near the torso, it takes less energy to raise to bottom than to raise the top. This also means that you don't need a spear to kill someone you've crucified, you can do it with a knife or bayonet.

>>53040430

So they're laying the cross on its side, pointed slightly diagonally toward the sky?

Also, UN peacekeepers mixed with Roman legions? I love it.

>>53040430
Which reminds me;

Fun fact not really important to the Brigade, but the Romans didn't crucify people the way most people imagine.

You start with a tall pole mounted into the ground, this pole has a peg in the top and remains standing. Then you get a beam with a hole through the middle for the prisoner.

The prisoner either gets nails through his forearms (risk of hitting something that'll make him bleed out) or nails through his palms (with his forearms lashed to the beam to stop him from tearing his hands apart trying to escape).

With the prisoner nailed, two men would walk up some ladders on either side of the main pole, carrying the prisoner and his beam. They put the peg in the hole and the prisoner is in place, ideally facing the rising sun.

Next, you grab his legs and drive nails through the sides of his ankles into the sides of the pole. Don't stretch his legs out, his knees need to be bent a bit. This allows him to take weight off his arms by pushing up with his legs, which is horribly painful on his feet and will cause him to collapse. Obviously, his weight coming down causes more pain on his arms.

Leave him like that all day and apply a spear to his side the following morning.

>>53040494
Not quite.

Imagine a road lined in crucifixes. Instead of each victim mounted side to side facing the road, they are mounted front to back. If you walked down the road and looked to the side, you'd be looking at them from the side instead of head on.

Instead of have a crucifix ever 4 to 5 feet you could have one ever 2 to 3 feet.

>>53040494
That's exactly the vibe that was gone for

>>53040530
Fun fact, given zero first hand documents that's all speculation

>>53040581

Ah, I get you.

>>53040430
>>53040494
I think we need both diagrams and algorithims to find the optimum way of arranging crucifixes to maximise the use of land. Keeping in mind that they also have to be placed by human hands, can't rely on armor doing all our work for us.

Maybe even work this into the lore/fluff. The brigade initially crucified people in the classical way before they learnt it was easier to make crosses, nail heretics to them, and put them up upside down.
And then they went to work making it more efficient and/or horrific, depending on how much resistance they encountered.

Planting Gorepoppies were a nice idea, binded the soil around the cross to make it harder to topple. But it was hard to move perishables around within the system, especially when they were found to be EXTREMELY addictive and banned. This led to them having to put down a rebellion of drug addicts they'd created within a city they had already put down some years ago. The Brigade do not talk about this.

Lightly toasting the heretics before crufixion as an additional punishment killed them too fast from numerous skin infections. And no amount of diluting the flamer fuel or toxins could used without having to apply precious salves to undeserving filth.

>>53040430
>>53040530
>>53040581
>>53040631

There isn't any confusion we retconned, stop enforcing your headcannon like Arbites.

Sideways now referes to corpse pikes

>>53040631
Ogryn would be useful at this point, but I don't know if the Argo Brigade uses them.

>>53040672
Being mounted sideways on a spike isn't being crucified, it's being impaled.

Not saying they can't do both, just pointing out that anyone implying it's crucifixion is wrong.

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>>53040430
>>53040494
So somethig like this?

>>53040681
We talked about using Ogryns in last thread I think and thought that it would be more efficient. Dont need multiple people to lift those corpses up when you can use one big ass dude. What everyone else thinks?

>>53040785
I was thinking of making something when I got home to show that, but yeah.

It really depends on where you're putting them. One line of crosses along side a road is more space efficient when done in the previously mentioned sideways pattern, but if you're putting multiple rows up you can mount them facing the road and just sandwich the rows together to save space.

The Argo Brigade would probably have their own terms for these and other patterns of cross placement/facing. If the Commander says, "Mount them in Line Pattern" his soldiers know what he means.

>>53040631>>53040713

The Displaying (This should be the catch all term for the crucifixion and the impaling) isn't about efficiency in purpose but efficiency in practice. That is to say putting them in neat little rows >>53040785 like this defeats the purpose because while it would be disturbing to see, it needs to be more about the display.

The displays are psychological warfare at its finest, they do it because it fucks with the enemy, not soley because it punishes them, although it satisfies both.

Pikes are super efficient because you can put like 20 odd dudes on there, and they out them on their side so you can see the faces, as opposed to putting them nut to butt and fitting more.

Crucifixion sideways is less intimidating than upside down from an emblematic point of view. We should cut it out to simplify.

>>53040872
I could see Ogryns snatched up as Auxilia and stuffed into Engineer Battalions to help in the Public Works projects

>>53040631
Why waste flamer fuel when you can just bayonet them and open up their guts

>>53040895
Good point.

Getting my view on impaling people I think it depends how many prisoners they are about to crucify. They probably have it figured all out like it was pointed out here>>53040631at what point it more efficient to just impale majority of the prisoners rather than crucifying all of them. Maybe crucify the the officers so they can see their soldiers being impaled by the thousands.

>>53040984
The Brigade would rather just gas the shit out of everyone and go home, but displaying the enemy breaks them without wasting ammo.

In general crucifixion is used, however if there's a large amount of people the commanders go on the cross and the mooks go on spikes.

Does no one read the 1d4chan page?

>>53040872
>Argos Brigades accepts Ogryns because they increase the crufication rate.
>They aren't even used in combat/only one unit Squad is fielded
>They just put up crosses

>>53040895
I think we can put this crufication optimisation problem to bed by saying different situations require different Patterns.

Need to line an entire highway only a single row-deep? "One row! Stacked!" Where the crucifixes are slightly higher/lower than their neighbours so that the arms can can rest on/support the other crosses. It's expected to kill the heretics beforehand so that they don't fuck with each others bindings.

Need to make a path of shame to force-march the family of the traitors through? "[Even No.] rows! Staggered!" Where the Rows have a gap around them one crucifix long. Imagine a repeating pattern of crosses and empty spaces. Should be big enough for the remaining pop. to walk through.

>>>53040984
I think the problem is that we need a rough idea of how much is too much to crucify. A Platoon? A Company? A Hive-city?

>>53041116
Just fucking gas and shell the hive world, fuck that shit lol

>>53041081
I read but I keep forgetting.

This is the answer.

>>53041116
As a friendly anon reminded: commanders on crosses, troops on spikes. No matter how many.

On civilians... maybe 1000ish?

>>53041204
I can see the Brigade using the engineering Battalions to dig up huge pits and fill them full of Promethium and just set those little fuckers one fire

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Can we get pic related but with the Argo Brigade instead?

>>53041440
They aren't really roman.

But I agree 100%

So what sort of intense training does the Brigade put their recruits under which differentiates itself from regular Guard?

I was thinking that they'd eventually train in how to do the whole crucifixion in under a few minutes to the drill instructor's exact orders.

>>53041511
>"I HOPE YOU BOYS LIKE GAS"

If a member of the Argo Brigade does something that calls for execution, do they get a bolt to the head or are they crucified?

Obviously they get a bolt if they do it in a combat situation, I'm talking about infractions outside of combat.

>>53041242
Wheres the fun in that?

>>53041815
It probably depends on the severity of the crime. We could always do the good Roman style Decimation for any mutiny.

>>53041815
Those fuckers for sure get crucified. Breaking the very law you fight to uphold makes you a traitor of the highest order, for the watchmen must watch themselves with a vigilant eye and harsher judgement than they would the flock.

To betray that responsibility condemns oneself to die as a traitor of the highest order

>>53042152
Was just about to write somethibg like this but no need anymore. No need to treat him/her differently than any other traitor.

>>53041815
They get impaled: on a blunt, short, thick stake that stops short of the heart so they last longer.

>>53042133
I brought up decimation for rebellious populations in another thread but it got overlooked

>>53041204
Wait are you trying to get rid of crucifixion all together? We've come to far for that

>>53042322
No no no, not at all. What I meant that 1000 civilians are a max amount they can crucify in a certain time period, lets say 24 hours. If they need to speed this process for some reason they grab spikes and start impaling people.

When dealing with military forces they crucify the commander first and then statt impaling soldiers and make the commander watch it.

Obviously this is just how I think it happens and is debatable.

>>53042504
Since at their height Rome crucified 2000 people a day that should also be out limit. Idk I always took crucify to mean "nail to something" like Inposted about nailing to walls in thread 1, in my head cannon I won't have impailing, Save that for "not-Romanians in spessss"

>>53042950
Vladamir the Dragon, primarch of a chaos marine chapter that impails armys living. Use the warp to manifest spikes out of the ground that turn people into husks like from mass effect 1

>>53040681
>>53040872
>>53040936
>>53041116
from the last thread:
>>52982412
>>52982441
>>52988954
Personally I like >>53040936 and >>52988954 ideas for the Ogryn because they have brute force and they are also intimidating, but corralling them can be difficult.


>>53040953
>>53041141
The point of the crucifixion is to break the will of the planet, since you can launch a bombing campaign to put Vietnam to shame and only harden the enemy's resolve. The use of chemicals on the victims was to bring things back around to torture so the victim is suffering.

And for all the posts about the point and mechanics of crucifixion in general I'd like to direct you to the old threads because we covered a lot of this before. It got realized into "The Parade" last thread or the thread before, which in itself was based on all the previous stuff about it. The parade itself, the sight of the parade, the sound of the parade, the smell after the parade, the possible spread of disease because of the parade, and the abandoned route of the parade all serve a purpose in breaking a planet.

>>53043109
Agreed

I think we need a new thread and an archive seeing as we are at the bump limit.

>>53046193
Was the last thread archived?

>>53046914
I can start archiving them if they need to be, but every thread gets archived, just not on suptg

>>53047864
Where is everybody?

>>53049966
Probably scared off by your dubble dubs

>>53050773
>>53049966
Oh SHIIIIT

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Lets get more art! More!

entirely unrelated, but I think I'm going to finally sort out the Sanguine Shields this weekend, for sentiments' sake

>>53052529
You're the best kind of person

Man needs his sleep. I archived the thread in suptg. Will be making a new thread if no one else does.

New thread is up

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