>>52438077
Is blood halal?

>>52438077
So, France is leading the fight against the undead by banning wearing face-concealing burkas in public?

>>52438096

Article on what food is Halal: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-27324224

>Animals must be alive and healthy at the time of slaughter and all blood is drained from the carcass. During the process, a Muslim will recite a dedication, know as tasmiya or shahada.
>Animals must be alive and healthy
>and all blood is drained from the carcass.

Oh damn.
I think we're onto something.

>>52438146
Mohammed was just an ordinary warlord until he visited the Kaaba, then afterwards he was completely changed and adopted the moon as his symbol.

Clearly the Kaaba was the crypt of an ancient vampire queen who made Mohammed her thrall and used him to spread her evil throughout the world.

>>52438077
No way. Dracula gave up his humanity just to quell kebab.

>>52438197

So what does that make Vlad Tapes who fought against the Muslim hordes yet is very much associated with vampires?

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>>52438197
Shit son he's right.

>>52438224
Anon no you don't get it
If he killed a shit ton of Kebab then who knows how many he could have sucked the blood or souls out of.

>>52438240
No, you don't get it. Dracula was a hero who was villified by mudslimes.

>>52438234
>>52438252
Maybe he was actually killing the vampires and they've tried to make him look like a bad guy for all of history.

Or maybe he was one of those vampires that turns on his own kind.

>>52438237
Vampire civil war perhaps, or maybe a Blade-like "monster that hunts his own kind" kinda deal.

Not sure if it's just from Hellsing, but there's that time as a child he was in a hostage/ward/I-have-your-kids-so-don't-rebel thing with the Turks, which would be a good time for becoming Vamp'd

>>52438237
You mean Vlad the Vampire Slayer?

>>52438352
>Vlad was the hero all along
>Vlad's been waging a secret war against the Vampires for almost 600 years.
>Vlad has turned you and the other PCs, and taken you under his wing
>Now you join the good Vampires and fight against the asshole Vampires
>All the Saudi princes? Vampires
>Dubai and Quatar? Vampires
>The Ayatollah? Werewolf. Turns out that's where the whole Shi'ite Sunni thing comes from

>>52438237
Vampire smear campaign. They've spread their lies so far over the centuries that they've associated their greatest enemy with the thing he hated the most.

>>52438488
It's not a lie. Drac got bit while fighting the Ottomans. Or when he was taken hostage by them as a child.

I dunno where we get this idea that both sides can't be vampiric and still killing each other.

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Catholic here. Given the historical animosity, would that make Catholics werewolves? What about Protestants, Jews and Eastern Orthodox?

>>52438598
Jew here. Wouldn't it make sense for the Shias to be werewolves, and us to be something else? Cause they still hate them more than anyone else.

>>52438598
Could very easily just be godly humans that the vampires were out to destroy.

Could explain things like how The Arabs took over The North African Christian Kingdoms so fast, and why they called Crusades on them so soon. The Catholics could have easily been blood banks for their new Vampire Conquerors.

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What if the original Vampires hailed from The Mongols and spread onto The Middle East through The Grand Mongol Invasions?

>>52438672
>>52438691
Works for me.

>>52438598
>>52438672
>>52438454
Pretty much all the People of the Book have some form of power at least - Abraham knew his magic alright.

As >>52438197 mentions, Mohammed got himself and his lines cursed, and they split again when one group tried to cure it.

Christians have harnessed this for cross = anti-vamp power

Jews have the Keys of Solomon and the Kabbalah - magic and daemons.
Daemons in particular seem a double edged sword for the jews, it's no coincidence they're had a LOT of misfortune

>>52438197
>>52438837
Who's the Vampire Queen, though? My money's on Lilith, who was trapped inside the Kabbah by God and Abraham.

My Grandfather's been teaching me Kabbalah for a couple years now. Trust me, that shit can kill vampires dead

>>52438837
Did Bro Moses sell a bunch of Egyptian First Born Souls to free his people?

>>52438872
You know if it was a Queen, it could be her.

But what if it's Cain pretending to be an Angel?

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>>52438837
>Catholics get all the crazy trinkets the Vatican has been gathering for years and train knights to battle evil
>The Orthodox are into mysticism hard and have holy spells and powers
>Protestants get their work ethic and can work really ethically
>Jews get powerful golems and magics passed down by Solomon

>>52438916
Cain's been done before. Plus, he doesn't have a desceptive bone in his body.

Maybe Cain was the first werewolf, and god's curse forcing him to wander (I.E. not farm) means that God turned him into a carnivore.

>>52438872
Lilith was just the Jew'd version of Ishtar, who was known to be an evil seductress whose lovers mysteriously tended to waste away and died. She could summon the undead, and was known to hang around the area where the Kaaba is back in pre-Abrahamic times.

Plus, one of her titles was literally "Queen of the Night."

>>52438872
>Abraham
Remind me again what Professor Van Helsing's first name was?

>still fighting vampires 7,000 years later

>>52439034
Wasn't Ishtar the bitch that stole a bunch of unrelated god titles and powers because she was daddy's spoiled princess and he let her go back for seconds and thirds at the divine buffet table?

>>52439566
She did a lot of bad things, like threatening to start the zombie apocalypse basically every time she didn't get her way.

But Enkidu did slap her in the face with a severed monster dick that one time, so maybe her bitchiness is a little bit justified.

>>52439664
Well The Arab Empire could've been another failed attempt.

>>52438237
Lies propagated by Corvinius who was turned by the vampires of the Ottomans, and seemed to also corrupt the papacy to undeath

>>52439762
>seemed
*sought
You'll not trick me into heresy phone!

>>52438784
>Mongols actually drank blood directly from their horses for sustenance during non-stop rides.

This could work…

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>>52438117
>So, France is leading the fight against the undead
GREAT UNDEAD PURGE WHEN?

>>52439762
Shouldn't be that hard to lure the Papacy into vampirism, considering the kind of symbolism Christianity has going on.

>And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, "Drink ye all of it; for this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins."

I'm working on a timeline of these whole events. gonna post soon.

>>52439796
I was just thinking that was the case because The Mongols did invade towards The Middle East.

I'm not sure if Attila had any relation with The Mongols, but The Pope claims to have sent him away from Rome, and when he returned home he actually died by drowning in his own blood.

What's claimed to have happened is that he got blasted drunk during his wedding and blacked out, falling on his back. He got a nosebleed in the middle of the night and he ended out breathing it in until he drowned.

Done on the timeline. If I missed something, please tell me
>Lilith is sent out of Eden. The Serpent blesses her with Vampirism.
>Exile from Eden happens.
>Cain kills Abel. God curses Cain with Lycanthropy.
>Cain meets Lilith. They fuck. We all pray to God they never had kids.
>Cain fucks about with mankind, gets a bunch of followers.
>God sends a flood, saving Noah and his family. Cain survives somehow. Lilith survives, but sinks to the bottom of the ocean and goes dormant.
>The rainbow God gives to Noah is a meataphor. God instead taught Noah how to manipulate light, the techniques to kill Vampires and Werewolves. As long as Mankind keeps them at bay, God won't need to send another flood.
>Timeskip to Abraham. He rediscovers Noah's lost Arts, which were forgotten in the times of Nimrod.
>Abraham gets the hell out of Ur. Moves to Kanaan.
>A mini Ice Age is happening. The seal levels will fall, and Lilith will get out. God command Abraham to build the Kabbah, and use it as a prison for Lilith.
>The Jews are made slaves in Egypt. Moses combines God Magic and Pagan Magic to create highly sophisticated spells and prophecies. These would go on to be encoded in the Old Testament using Kabbalic Ciphers. It forms the basis of all future Faith Magic.
>David is made King of Israel. The process of anointing a pure-hearted king gives them magical powers comparable to a Messiah. Unfortunately, David proves to have a weak heart.
>Solomon's heart proves to be pure, and he break's Moses' code. Using this knowledge, Solomon builds the Temple, which serves as a Locus of Power for Faith Magic. He establishes his Knights of the Kabbalah, who are the progenitors of future Kabbalists.
>Solomon's son proves to be incompetent, and the Kingdom is split.
>Jews are conquered and dispersed. The Kabbalists are weak, but still manage to deal with werewolves when they can.
1/2

>>52439929
>Jesus is born. He is so powerful, he has the Magical power of an messiah without the blessings and anointing. Many believe that he is the son of god.
>Corrupted Jewish priests ally with the Romans and kill Jesus. He pulls an Obi-Wan and ascends to heaven bodily with his soul intact.
>Romans destroy the Temple. Thankfully, the inner sanctum that is the lynch-pin to Solomon’s Locus remains undamaged.
>Gnostics are a thing. Maybe they do something interesting, IDK.
>Jesus’ disciples do their thing. Peter sets up the Vatican, Paul canonizes the works that will one day become Orthodox Monastic Arts.
>Council of Nicea happens. Christians consolidate their power and start building relics.
>Muhammad is born.
>He has some Power, but not enough to save him from Lilith. He accidentally frees her from her prison, and becomes the world’s second vampire.
>Muhammad gather’s Thralls/followers. People of Mecca kick him out. Muhammad moves to Medina.
>Muhammad ends up conquering all of Arabia. Near the end of his life, Muhammad tries to siphon the power of Solomon’s Temple. The locus’ holy power instead burns him to death. After Muhammad’s death, his most powerful follower, Abu Bakr, takes over.
>People wanted Ali to rule. He does, eventually, but he does such a terrible job at it, the other vamps kill him.
>Ali’s followers want revenge. Cain, who’s had his forces whittled away by Kabbalists for ages, shows up and offers them the chance. Ali’s followers agree, and Cain blesses them with Lycanthropy.
>The werewolves aren’t enough to keep the vamp expansion in check.
>Deciding that enough’s enough, the Pope calls a crusade. His descendants follow his example.
>The Crusades are effective, but they’re not enough. Ottomans take over, and the Orthodox sects are oppressed.
>Vlad Tepes, Prince of Walachia, is Turned by the vampires he fights. Instead of succumbing, Vlad uses his curse against his enemies, and keeps fighting them even to this day.
2/2

>>52439929
>>The rainbow God gives to Noah is a meataphor. God instead taught Noah how to manipulate light, the techniques to kill Vampires and Werewolves. As long as Mankind keeps them at bay, God won't need to send another flood.
Wait, so God taught Noah to be the first Ripple User?

>>52439913
>, but The Pope claims to have sent him away from Rome

No, every single contemporary source says the pope sent him away from Rome. Nobody knows how, but it happened. The two most popular theories at the time, and now, are that he either bribed him, or convinced him that if he sacked Rome he would be killed by God (like the previous guy who sacked Rome, his ship sank and he died, and he didn't even go ham on Rome).

>>52439966
Well yeah that's what I was getting at.
I think the story was that he actually walked out of Rome and talked to him personally and got him to leave.

>>52438278
Keep in kind, Dracula was IMPALING his enemies on WOODEN STAKES.

>>52439986
Oh shit, boi.

>>52439944
Hey what if he learns the secrets of how to kill vampires from his time as a vampire and that's why he impales them?

He made a great forest of steaks so none would ever forget how you kill a vampire, even when history pains him as evil.

>>52439985
Historically speaking they sent a delegation of to convince him to leave, and the Pope actually did it out of left field. I can't even think of something contemporary to compare it too, it shocked the entire world and guaranteed he would be heralded as a Saint the moment he died. It's like 9/11 but good I guess.

Now, the legend is the Pope was telling him he would face God's wrath and a specter holding a sword appeared before him. That one isn't contemporary, it came out a few hundred years after.

>>52440021
You know, speaking of other holy warriors, that means Joan Of Arc could have also been a vampire hunter.

She fought Muslims, right?

>>52440074
Nah, she fought other Europeans. And had to be burned to kill her.

I think Joan was on team vamp.

>>52439962
>holy Hamon
fuck it, why not.

>>52440123
Plus she was good friends with Gilles de Rais. I really hope I don't need to tell you why this is a very bad thing.

>>52440140
I don't know that part of history very well.
Why is Gilles de Rais so bad?

>>52440172
He secretly abducted and killed children, then mutilated their corpses.

>>52440207
Sounds like valid Vampire Material to me.

>>52440207

Allegedly. It's entirely possible that was fabricated so people could get a hold of his very valuable estate.

>>52440225
Plus the dude was interested in the occult and shit.

>>52440232
He literally admitted to doing it, though. And he didn't have much of an estate, since he was so decadent that he beggared himself with debt.

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>>52438837
>>52438923

Did somebody say SOLOMON?

>>52440074
>>52440140
You may actually want to back the fuck up on Joan with your bullshit kid. They weren't friends, he was a soldier and military leader present at most of her battles, nothing more. He was a fucking commander in the Royal Army, it would have been pretty fucking hard for them to not associate. The idea that they had anything resembling a friendship is a relic of retards quoting Margaret Murray who thought she was a witch the Church killed.

Go back to England.

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>>52438923
>Protestants get their work ethic and can work really ethically

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>>52438237
>leaves his enemies staked in the sun

>>52440026
>Now, the legend is the Pope was telling him he would face God's wrath and a specter holding a sword appeared before him.
First Hamon, now Stands?
There really is nothing new u see the sun

>>52439929
>>Cain meets Lilith. They fuck. We all pray to God they never had kids.

Anon we all know that they had kids. It's literally impossible for Lilith, the inspiration for all whore like monsters and creatures throughout history, to NOT have had kids with Cain. If she didn't then somethings up.

>>52440337
>t.Vampire poster

>>52440413
Could be Attila's bloodline.

>>52440453
Oh fuck wait
Is he the one that most of the world's population is supposed to be related to?

So most people descend from Cain at one point or another?

>>52438923
>>52440357
Make the Christians a sliding scale of Mystic to Mundane/Material. Orthodox get the spells and mysticism, Catholics with trinkets, relics and holy orders experienced in fighting evil. Protestants brute force it with mundane means. Makes for the Catholics as a neat middle ground that ties them together. Material means with mystical origins.

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>>52440409
>>52440140
>>52440026
>>52439962
Mormon Jesus

>>52440532
Nah, that's either Genghis Khan or Ramses the Great.

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>>52440438
I should further elaborate as to why (you) are an English swine who fucked his own mother.

Firstly, you lack anything to attack on Joan directly. So instead you attack a morally blackened knight who was in the army with her. Joan of Arc was killed in 1431, and In his confession, Gilles mentioned the first assaults on children occurred between spring 1432 and spring 1433. Secondly, like all pigfucking English and their Anglo-spawn that blacken the world, you only dislike Joan because she revitalized French patriotism and effectively turned the tides of a war of succession that would have seen England having control of lands that by all laws belonged to the French. Thirdly, you are such a boneless roué that you fail to mention she was killed for dressing in male clothing, but her reasons are such that even the great church doctor Saint Thomas Aquinas allowed for. She wore men's clothing to deter rape from the dogs that imprisoned her. One English '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''noble''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' had already made an attempt, and she feared the next would be successful if she did not have sturdy boots to kick with, and pants that are difficult to remove.

Fourthly. It was a French tunnel that killed Princess Diana. So fuck you.

>>52440563
Oh yeah. Must be Genghis.

>>52440563
Ghengis has .5%, And I'd wager MOST of that population is centered specifically in mongolia and china

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>>52438077
Watch this

>>52440553
>Dah-nuh-nuh-nah.

>>52440570
>tfw you like her just because your mom is named Joan

Hilariously enough my dad's named Roland, so I got both my parents and Frankish hero units in AoE2.

>>52440587
>Look at Human Migration
>Native Americans descended from Asians
>India is in Asia
>Polynesians are from Asia
>Middle East invaded by Asians all the time
>Tons of Mongols settle in Middle East after converting to Islam
The only Non-Asians are Blacks and Whites at one point or another.

>>52440633
Australians and certain pacific tribes too. The history of human migration to australia is fucked

>>52440633
>Native Americans descended from Asians
Eh, the people who crossed the Bering Straight were more Proto-Asian/Siberian. They're as far removed from the modern Asians as can be, and it becomes only moreso the farther South you travel. Only the Inuit are still that close enough to Asian

>>52440570
>This assmad at the English

Jeez, did an English man rape your mother to death? Calm the fuck down, Franz.

>>52440588
The trailer looks really interesting.

>>52440658
>Inhabit an entire continent unmolested for at least 40,000 years and as many as 60,000 years.

>Accomplish nothing.
>Burn a fertile paradise into a desert.
>Forget how to make fire.

>>52440692
Yeah that makes sense.
They still have the ability to look like them sometimes though. Light skinned Mexicans tend to look sorta Oriental.

>>52440703
>Jeez, did an English man rape your mother to death?

This hatred is hereditary.

>>52440734
What's more impressive is that, as far as we can tell, they managed to sail directly from africa to australia, with no stops in between. As far as I know there's no evidence of h. sapiens going through Asia until a good deal later

>>52440570
>hating on Joan of Arc being a badass vampire
>Frenchmen hating on Englishmen despite interbreeding with them and the Scots for centuries

More seriously given her background, its more likely that she was a Vampire Hunter killed by politics (and possibly vampires).

>>52440734
Coincidentally, this is also what led to the Eucalyptus becoming one of the dominant trees in Australia, due to both the high crude fat content of leaves and their thick bark allowing them to help propagate and survive a somewhat rapid burn interval

>>52440773
Probably hitched a ride on Yakub's Pyramids.

Okay, now I wanna add melanoid occultism into this. Just a little

>>52440779
Well what if she wasn't a vampire herself, but a vampire sympathizer?
Could make The 100 Years War for us into "The Day Wars" for them where they got lots of mortals to lead for them.

>>52440802
Now hol' up

>>52440802
What's a Melanoid?

>>52440825
A Negro.

Wait a minute...so the Aztec obsession with blood offerings means...

AYAYAYAYAY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM

>>52440825
what the WE WUZ KANGS crowd call themselves.

>>52440802
I forgot to mention that a number of tribes didn't know how to count with their fingers till the 50's and a few STILL don't have words for numbers other than "One" and "Many"
Abbos are fucking weird man
>>52440825
Black people farcically attempting to take credit for the accomplishments of other races since they lack any notable ones of their own

>>52440123
Joan of Arc was known to have being comforted by holding cross while being burned, so it's unlikely she was a vampire.

Probably falsely accused by the real vampires she was hunting.

>>52440844
The ones who really cared about the heart thing were the faggoty Aztecs, while the based Inca worshiped the sun.

>>52438197
>adopted the moon as his symbol
Fake news. The crescent moon symbol didn't become associated with Islam until the Turks.

>>52440844
>Cortez was actually leading an overzealous crusade against Aztec Vampires

>>52440844
I didn't even have to click the link to hear it

>>52440889
Also, Like, half the tribes around the aztecs fucking hated them. Which is part of the reason why the spanish beat the aztecs so easily

>>52440844
That's a whole different kind of vampirism, tho. More likely that a local vampire equivalent developed independently, or somehow the Aztec vamps managed to get to Lilith while she's underwater. Which all becomes moot when Spain invaded, and bringing old world vampirism into the new world.
Who knows, they might have mixed together since then.

>>52440889
So, assuming the Aztecs were vampires/local vampire equivalents, the Incas must've been developing ways to counter this.

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>>52440891

>>52440844
>Find new World
>"Ah finally, an untamed land for the goof of Mortal Man"
>Inca tell about some Vampire Dudes up in Yucatan
>"OH FUCK NOT AGAIN"

>>52440913
Come to think of it, spain would be a hotspot for vampires since it's one of the spots that was constantly beset by muslims

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>>52440825

>>52440934
That's what The Inquisition is for, My Man.

>>52440545
By brute force, does that mean like shotguns over spells?

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>>52440913
Maybe the Mayans weren't affected by the first flood. And yeah, the Incas probably had some real neat fucking ways to counter Vamps.

>>52440932
>Sicily has a ton of muslim blood in it
>Sicilian vampires start an organization
>They move all over the globe
>mfw the Mafia are literally Vampires
>MFW Al Capone is an Elder Vamp
YOOOOO!!!!!

>>52440934
But vamps infiltrated the church, right? So in Spain it's vamps vamping vamps. Wait, where'd the werewolves go into all this? Did they go north and made their way to vikings before they infect sunnis? Would explain the berserkers.

>>52440978
I thought Capone wasn't a part of the Mafia

>>52440985
Presumably they're all dead now since "Vampires" rule scandinavia

>>52440978
Son of a bitch
What if Alcatraz was a High Security Facility constructed to house Powerful Vampires.

>>52440932
Maybe Australia is the only continent where there's no vamps/weres when it was first discovered by the western world. The Dreaming is some sort of supernatural barrier/internet that keeps outside bad supernaturals out.
Could also explain why Abbos are Abbos, they be shitposting on the Dreamtime for too long. Also explains why Aussies now are the king of internet shitposting.

>>52441009
But what if the Kievan Rus, which were partly descended from Scandinavian Vikings, inherited the werewolves as well? They managed to build their tsardom big and be menacing, but the Soviets utilized SCIENCE/MAD SCIENCE to stamp them out.

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>>52440913
Inca and Aztec were too far apart to have any real contact.

What about Mixtec? They were the greatest artisans in all of the Americas, but they were completely dominated by the Aztecs militarily. So their towns were all paying tribute to Aztec rulers, and a lot of their population was basically living in ghettos in Aztec cities.

>>52440985
Well my dude, some high class Vikings were known to carry what they claimed were magic swords that turned out to actually be made of Damascus Steel. it could be very possible that Viking Elites were at least vampires due to these trade contacts and that's why they ended out invading Monasteries all crossed Europe.

Also might say why they're Immigrant Sympathizers.

>>52441062
If the dreaming works like that, I wouldn't be surprised if platypus venom had some sort of special properties. Platypuses are already weird enough that it's not THAT much of a stretch for them

>>52440738
So, yes.
Donc, oui.

>>52441107
>tfw the secret to killing non-mortals is The Platypus

Okay, if both the Musselman and the Aztecs were both vampires of different stains from Lilith, would the Wendigo also be another strain?
Or would they and Skinwalkers be from the Blood of Cain instead?

What of the Inuit? IIRC they commonly drink blood as part of their diet, but they seem a lot more tame than a vamp should.

Also, I'm fairly certain the Ute Indians were some manner of vamp or lycan, especially due to their bloodthirsty slaver nature, to the point that all the other tribes decided to beg the Mormons and agree integrate/convert with them if they were to taken them down and stop the rampant raiding and enslaving

>>52440871
Check out pirahã in south America. They are fucking weird in the same vein.

>>52440734
>Undomesticate the dog.

>>52441062
I like this explanation of those stinger-havers, the aussies

>>52441120
Well we could easily say that Cain and Lilith had many manner of children that spread around the globe, and those children could make up any number of semi-vampiric or fully vampiric beasts.

So Wendigos could be a type of Vampire, just not the same as Muslim Vampires, or Aztec Vampires.

If we wanted to go deep ass lore in it we could stack up things for various Vamp Types, like have Native Americans be able to Skin Walk, Samoans can be Cannibals instead of Blood Drinkers, Mongols can talk to Animals, and Muslims are sorta just the default.

>>52438237
There was a second founding of vampirism when a Jew taunted Jesus while he was carrying the cross on the way to his crucifixion and Jesus cursed him with the same curse that God applied to Cain, turning that guy into the "Eternal Jew" or "Wandering Jew."

One can assume that Vlad the Impaler and most of the recent European vampires come from this later bloodline, which is why the sign of the cross repels them.

>>52441120
You remember that bit up the thread where Cain fucks Lilith?
Wendigos, and their more-supernatural-than-flesh kin, are the result of said coupling. It is said that Slenderman is but the newest member of the 'family', it gained its form through the stories told by humans.

>>52441193
No, the Wandering Jew was just Cain in disguise this entire time. He's the one who bred emnity between Jews and Christians, so they would not ally against him and his children.

>>52441194
what are the penangallan and jiang shi? Vampires or something else entirely?

>>52438454
With some of the more obvious religious war bits filed off, or at least not pushed entirely to the front, this ain't bad.

>>52441207
Was Caine Hitler? Or was Hitler his pawned, manipulated by the distorted memories of a nordic religion that really revered Caine?

>>52440773
The "cradle of life" thing is close to debunked as other hominids in the same developmental state as cro-magnon have been discovered in south-east asia and northwestern europe.
We're all mongrels to the very core.

>>52441229
The chinese decided to copy vampirism, but since they're chinese they didn't do it well at all

>>52439566
>>52439664
So... this just sounds like Liliana to me

>>52441240
>norse berserkers were Cain's pawns
>Hitler channelled the power of the old gods, and was influenced by Cain
makes sense

>>52441241
That's bullshit

Homo Sapiens Sapiens came from east Africa

The only places which claim it's been "debunked" are divorced from reality like /pol/

>>52441268
Is the swastika really a distorted version of the Mark of Caine?

>>52440913
Aztecs and Inca were almost as far from each other as Portugal is from Russia.

>>52441194
Slenderman's an upstanding citizen though. It's just that people don't respect his property rights and keep violating the NAP

>>52441229
>>52441249
Kinda this. When word of vampirism spread East some sages try to copy it because it sounds like immortality (and there were a lot of people looking for immortality in the far east), but they tested it on corpses first. These became jiangshi, which only transfers vampirism onto other corpses instead of living people. People who are 'dead inside' counts, however. Penanggalan could be a variant that spread to SEA, in the vein of the 'long-haired lady that ghosts around in the night' kinda deal.

Or alternatively the local Asian spirits caught vampirism and that's how Penanggalan etc was born.

>>52441284
If I recall it was actually stolen from Vedic tradition, because Hitler thought it looked cool.

Where would Hinduism and Vedic culture actually fall in this world we're making?

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>>52441284
Not really. Pic related is the Mark of Cain, according to Kabbalah

>>52439929
>>52439944
>going straight from split kingdoms to Jesus

That's a mighty hefty time skip there. Not even going to mention the BabylonIan and Assyrian exiles or Persian rule? Nothing about the McCabean era?

>>52441240
Nah, Hitler was just a normal German guy angry because he didn't get into art school, and things just sort of spiraled out of control from there. The rise of Nazism and WWII were basically a prolonged school shooting that lasted 20 years.

The immortals were laughing their asses off the whole time.

>>52440957

I think he means like the Ulster Volunteer Force...

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>>52438598
Did someone say Catholic Werewolves

>>52441315
A recurring theme in chinese myth is trying to find ways to become immortal. In fact, I don't know of any chinese myth that doesn't either focus on that or an immortal

>Be Martin Luther
>Catholic Church has become corrupt and Greedy
>They're now allowing Vampires to relent their sins and become Christians
>Nobles are purchasing Church Sanctioned Immortality via Vampire Transformation
>Martin makes his complaints
>They threaten to excommunicate him
>He must save Europe
>He translated The Bible into German
>This unlocks The Holy Words used to Banish and hurt Vampires to The Commoners
>Protestants rise up in their own Vampire Killing Militias
>The Vampires get banished from The Catholic Church, but lose a lot of their credibility as Vampire Hunters
>There's still a Shit Load of Noble Vampires all crossed Europe that are eating their Serfs
>The French Revolution was a long standing Purge of Vampires from Europe
>Turns out Beheading kills vampires

>>52441329
For some reason that reminds me of the swedish coat of arms

>>52441325
Well, Hindus were basically anti-zoroastrians, so I'd assume that they're not good. Therefore, Hitler borrowing from the Vedics makes sense

>>52441334
Babylonians and Persians and Romans are neutrally-alligned. Shit happens then, but it's not relevant to the Eternal War.

>>52441276
Guess what he means is not everyone is 100% sapiens-sapiens with billions of people having large sapiens- neanderthalensis or homo-siberiensis ancestry.

They still all come from habilis, and therefore from africa, in the end.

This is a hell of a lot of extra stuff. If the thread's still up tomorrow, I'll update the timeline with what's been posted, like the Hitler stuff and the Norse berserkers.

>>52441366
who was Siddharta Gautama, then?

>>52441419
A really depressing nihilist, who was trained by a Khabbalist when he left his family estate, but then just fave up and decided the only way humans would have peace in this world is if they just give up and let it all just happen.

Basically, the original emo

>>52441419
An enlightened but sadly misinformed man with some significant Power. He succeeded in reducing the popularity of the Vedic cults, and his teachings would be key to freeing China from Vampiric influence.

>>52438117
>>52438117

Funniest thing is, France historically was werewolf country. They sure loved furry (ahem) folklore.

>>52440823
Is you sayin'

>>52441598
We wuz Vampires N' Sheit?

>>52441366
Everything is connected to the eternal war Anon. From Roman political power struggles to the Mongol oppression of Russia to the Spanish killing the Aztecs to the Mormons fighting the utes. It all comes together

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This is the /tg/ I like

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>>52441616
All according to keikaku

>>52441616
Do you think Julius Caesar got turned into a Vampire by Cleopatra when they were fuckin'?

Is that why he got stabbed to death in The Senate by everyone?
Do you think Europe almost got dominated by Vampires for some Pussy and was narrowly saved by a bunch of old senators with wooden stakes?

>>52441705
It's worth noting that, according to Judaism, the Romans are descendant of Jacob's brother, Esau. It's very likely that the Romans are more good than bad.

>>52441705
>Brutus was also a vampire
>Et tu brutus holds another meaning as Brutus not only betrayed Cesar but also the vampire race.

>>52441743
Yup. Roman Republic was good, but the Empire was bad. Brutus knew that the Vampiric goals of world conquest were unrealistic, and would kill their race. So, he killed his best friend, for honor, and for the Republic.

Brutus Did Nothing Wrong.

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>>52438598
Jew here, this picture seems pretty accurate.

>>52441788
>Tfw love of your Homeland is greater than Vampire Bro-ship

>>52441737
Wasn't Esau kind of a brutish asshole though who just wanted to hunt all the time and sold his birthright for lentils?

Or am I thinking of a different set of twins?

>>52441788
what was Carthage? Demon-worshippers who served Moloch?
what is the role of Kek in this?

>>52439944
>>52439929
>a normal day on /x/

>>52441737
Yeah they're mostly good from what I think, they just happen to have a few bad eggs just like any mortal society probably does.

>>52441821
This picture gave me
1 chuckle
2 chuckles
3 chuckles!
Ah ah ah!

>>52441849
Yeah, although Esau wasn't that big of an asshole. There's this really touching part in the bible where its many years later, and Jacob hears that Esau is searching for him with a group of followers/army at his back. Jacob thinks that Esau is gonna kill him for taking his birthright, but when they finally meet, Esau embraces Jacob in love.

>>52441891
As a rule of thumb, most pagans who weren't neutral were cain-alligned. He was, after all, the only one who was operating at the time.

>>52441891
Kek is just the culmination of the Dreamtime's spread via internet shitposting, mixed with the ambient emotions about world politics that is orchestrated by vamps and weres. It then took the corpse of some minor Egyptian god and zombie'd it into its current form.

>>52441891
KEK, praise be unto he, is an unalligned force similar to an outer god. He is neutral in the Eternal War, but in general is beneficial and cares for Human growth and success. This can all be read in his holy book, the kekronomicon.

>>52441891
Shit frog is a shitty meme perpetuate by Cain for shits and giggles
He finds /pol/ to be funny as all hell and constantly switches between posting there and /trash/

>>52441891
>>52441940
Well Pre-Christian Africa was probably headed by either a bunch of Elite Vampires, or some stray Children of Cain and Lilith that were perceived as gods. I imagine there were many kids through the years that some only sought to live lavishly or dominate Mortals.

So would we call them Cain Aligned? Sure.

>>52441977
Perhaps the children of Cain and Lilith were demons, or demon-like beings. They probably influenced a lot of the more esoteric and totemistic pagans.

>>52441977
Pre-Christian Africa has some Deep One meddling, at least in the Dogon tribe.

>>52441951
>literally animated by Aussie meme magic
Makes a bit of sense

Are the Jesuits goodguys or badguys?

>>52441989
Sounds likely.
There likely isn't any definite rules about what kind of monsters Lilith can birth so whatever kind of Half Demons pop out could be anything.

I think it's safe to chalk up most of the crazy monsters in most mythologies to "They Fucked, yo"

>>52442012
The more like Animals the gods are, the more likely they were cain-lilith demon spawn.

>>52442006
They were lead by vampires that didn't like the greedy corruption and immortality gifting of the Catholics. That means even though they didn't like the Pope at first, they were the first to be called upon to spread propaganda and hypnotize nobles. Secretly also act as delegates to non-Catholic vampire sects.

>>52438352
>Not sure if it's just from Hellsing, but there's that time as a child he was in a hostage/ward/I-have-your-kids-so-don't-rebel thing with the Turks,

No he was, and in fact his brother became an ally of the Turks during this time

>>52438197
>adopted the moon as his symbol
The crescent moon symbol comes from Constantinople, didn't become associated with Islam until after the Turks conquered it
Roman Vampires confirmed

>>52442079
Oh fukk
Conspiracy within Conspiracy

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>>52441891
If we assume that Rome and Jesus were on the same side, and that Carthage and Moloch were on the same side, then it follows that Kek spanking the living shit of Moloch via /pol/ and Trump is a huge win for the good guys. </Sisko>

Kek's original role was the bringer-in of light and the master of darkness and chaos, which correlates strongly with Noah's power set. Plus, Kek's avatars seem to have very little trouble calling on Christian and Jewish powers and are Muslim-slayers par excellence (thank you Mattis).

>>52441990
Pre-Abrahamic black Africa was the playground of various Lovecraft beasties. That and admixture with primitive hominins explain their descendants' more irrational, violent tendencies.

Illuminati are the Enlightened Ones, right? I bet that they and a bunch of other organizations are Human Alligned, but have become so absolutely machiavelian that they will perform terrible acts of tyranny and oppression to get rid of the Vamps, and are now more of a threat than the Vamps they claim to fight.

>>52440570
I'm so glad to see France feeling its oats again and starting to push out English and Turks once more

France has always been the United States greatest ally.

>>52442112
I fear that too much Kek memeing may kill the thread.

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>>52442176
Probably, but I think we've about covered it at this point. There's a faction that the hoppity one clearly belongs to, so now we can move on to more important questions, like whether the widespread use of CFCs in the 20th century was a deliberate attempt to crack the ozone layer open and flash-fry every vampire in the world at once.

>>52442176
This. Nobody loves KEK shitposting more than me, but I think we should tone it down just a bit.

>>52442195
>"Let's destroy the biosphere to kill all the vamps!"
Sounds like something the Illuminati would do misguidedly.

What if The emperor of China's family was the only Vampires in all of early China, and they were thought to be gods, but were forced to remain in The Forbidden Palace because the aristocracy feared their immediate death at the presence of sunlight?

>>52441325
are the hindu gods demons, angels, nephilim, allegorical myths or something else entirely?

>>52442221
Imagine a country where the unwashed peasants ate entire garlic plants on a regular basis. Welcome to pre-modern China. The isolation of the Forbidden City was just to get away from the stench of the yokels.

>>52442230
Likely more Lilith and Cain Babies, though ones that may not be like fuck off levels of evil and were more interested in keeping control over their mortals rather than they were feeding off blood and souls.

>>52442221
Doesn't make sense, since the Mandate of Heaven has transfered many times. What's more likely, however, is that the Yuan dynasty were vampires, since the Yuan dynasty was mongols and mongols got vampirism from the muzzies.

>>52442230
Hindu gods are bad, hindu demons are good.

>>52442221
what emperor, exactly? Do you mean that this is what the Mandate of Heaven entails? That the next dynasty finds a way to transform themselves into vampires and usurps their forebearers? Was Qin Shihuangdi a vampire or something else, given how obsessed he was with immortality which he would not have needed if already was a vampire?

>>52442239
And what do we know about garlic and vampires?

>>52442250
It was just the Yuans who were vamps.

>>52442176
If KEK is to become real lore it would look like this:
Careless anf fickle god of frogs and chaos were worshiped by the Egyptians for little to no magical effect on the on the physical world. Christianity pretty much killed of KEK on a magical level as nobody worships or practiced chaotic magic. Aussie warewovles accidentally resurrected KEK using widespread information circulation with occult Dream magic based on KEK. It now exist as an omnipotent thing rather than a god, that causes those wielding chaotic magic to have random unlucky events happen around them for their benefit.

On Lilith and Cain babies

While these creatures are chaotic, strong, and malicious, they are also exceedingly lazy. They have not a shred of ambition, they lack the capability of allying properly, and they do not actively try to bring about Mankind's downfall. They're often content with their minor cults of few followers offering them profane sacrifices.

>>52442258
is the Imperial family of Japan similary comprised of vampires? Or from something else, since the trace their lineage to a sun goddess?

>>52442250
>Do you mean that this is what the Mandate of Heaven entails?
Why do you think so many Chinese cities are becoming permanently sunless, smoggy hellscapes. They're trying to create necropoli where the Party Vampires can wander openly.
>Red is the color of the Party and the color of blood. There is a reason for this.

>>52442246
>>52442250
Huh, well we could quite easily say that Mongol/Chinese Vampires are a kind that got the awful end of the Cain Stick and don't have immortality. It'd better explain the rampant obsession with immortality that permeated The Social elite.

As for The Forbidden palace we could say that they were trying to assassinate each other all the time.

Or they can be irritated by Rice

>>52442285
Japs are our friends. Remember, it was the Japanese Emperor who summoned a Divine Wind and defeated the Yuan Vampires when they tried to conquer Japan.

Like the Inca, the Japs probably have some real neat holy magic.

>>52442286
is smog actually a vampiric ploy? Given that the Saudis control much of the world's oil and thus serve to further pollute the air, it seems likely.

>>52442312
Does that mean environmentalists are Druids?

>>52442304
So what you're telling me is
Samurai Vampire Hunters
And Shinto magic typhoons

>>52442322
More like vampires who think that killing the planet just so they can take walks outside is a stupid idea.

>>52442230
They're a poorly construed mash-up of dozens of different pagan traditions, cooped and kit bashes together by the Vedas and subsumed into a newly constructed religion in an attempt to reapropriate and consume the local tribes culture and identity to control them


Basically, one demon ate his siblings and got HUGE and megalomaniacal, and schizo

>>52442341
>tfw My Nigguh Aku is a Cain Child

>>52442322
Most "environmentalists" are vampiric-aligned druids or thralls, aka watermelons.
>green on the outside, blood red on the inside
Every "emissions control" plan ever proposed amounts to a bulk wealth transfer from the Judeo-Christian world to the Vampiric-controlled world. Their favored tactic is blanketing areas with panels that absorb the sun's light before it can come in contact with skin. This is not a coincidence. They're also fighting to restore the ozone layer.

>>52442341
Superior Japanese silver bullets, folded over 777,777 times, kills filthy gaijin vampires and werewolves better than anything else.

>>52442360
>blanketing areas with panels that absorb the sun's light before it can come in contact with skin.
There are people in real life who think this is how solar power works too

>>52442358
Aku is probably a good example of what Cain Children look like. They're powerful trickster-spirits who lack the ambition and ruthlessness to truly triumph over evil.

>>52442357
does that explain his multiple arms and heads and the often paradoxical notions found within Hinduism? Is it a single demon over whom multiple demon souls fight over?

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>>52442304
>the Japs probably have some real neat holy magic.
As a huge weeb I can confirm that traditional Japanese mikos are superb vampire slayers.

Crazy mode: Hirohito never wanted war, but was being controlled by a vampire clan based out of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

>>52442360
>>52442377
pls stop politic-posting. The vampires WANT you to argue and divide yourselves.

Also, if we wanted to run this, I'm assuming that we use Hunter, the Vigil, right?

>>52442393
with the same conspiracies and compacts or different ones?

>>52442392
>Japanese colonial expansion and conquest was all an attempt to purge vampires from East Asia and spread Japanese anti-vampire magic
>Backfired when vamps convinced leaders to drink all the kool aid

>>52442432
I haven't played enough Hunter to know that for sure. I'd say we make our own, or at least reskin some of them. But We'll leave that for thread 2

>>52442450
This also explains why the rest of east Asia still hasn't ever fully gotten its shit together without the presence of a conquering non-vampiric state like Japan or the US.

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>>52441542
>Joan of Arc was a human working for the Frankish warewolves
>infaltrate the French army
>killed vampires within the army using magic
>betrayed by her own kingdom for a plot the English vampires made
>Frankish werewolves win the war using lots of mortals like this

>>52442361
>Vikings/Scandinavians are exposed to Muslim Vampires through Damascus Steel Trade
>Spread their Vampirism all along The Pagan World
>Bunch of Vampires remain in The Netherlands Region for generations
>Be one of the only nations allowed to Trade with Japan during their Isolationism
>Spread Vampirism through The Peasantry of Japan
>Sell them Guns
>Japan starts to overtake The Samurai Vampire Hunters
>The Samurai Rebellion is the last ditch effort to save Japan from Vampire Takeover
>Fail to save Sunrise Land
>Vampires control Japan until WW2

>The Korean Conflict was a Vampire Purge acted out to rid The Land of Refugee Japanese Vampires
>Push Vampires back to North Korea before Pulling Out
>Kim Jong Un is a Vampire

>The Lore goes This Deep

>>52442511
>Vampirism spread through Jap Peasants
>Ninjas were peasants who were masters of stealth, only seen at night, and could dissapear in a puff of smoke
>Ninjas were vampires
NANI!

>>52442548
THE NINJAS WON AFTER ALL

>>52442548
>Ronald Reagan was a Hollywood actor before he was President
>the ninja slaying movies in the 80s were government propaganda to stomp out some ninja vampires that had immigrated from Japan
>the vampires were also key to Japan's technological advantage, so slaying them set off a slump in the 90s that Japan still hasn't fully exited

>>52442511
So, is anime an invention of vampire hunters or of vampires? Or is it contested?

>>52442638
The world may never know.

>>52442487
Also to add, although both Austria with Spain and France were Catholic kingdoms in the 30 Years War. France fought the other two kingdoms to keep the Lowlands to be a safe haven for warewolves and prevent the Austrian vampires from unifying Germany, thus the combined powers of Frankish, Lowlander warewolves, and protestant humans held off vampires holding western Europe.

>>52439566
yup

She got her dad drunk and then banged him to steal some tablets.

>>52442638
Anime was inspired by early American animation, which was decidedly non vampiric. The last few years have seen a huge spike in series with normally evil supernatural creatures as progagonists at the same time as the industry gets shittier and more exploitative, so there's definitely a vampire incursion in progress.

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Okay, I think it's time to address the elephant in the room: Russia.

I'd be inclined to believe that the Tsars have been vamps ever since the Golden Horde got their greasy hands on the land. They were, after all, terribly oppressive rulers, and Tsar Nicolas' son was a hemophiliac, which just screams Vampire.
I hate to say it, but I think the Bolsheviks might have been the good guys.

>>52442648
such werewolf-human alliances have happened, but they never last long. Werewolves are just as dangerous to Humans as Vampires are, but are often less of a threat as they are more savage and disorganized.

>>52442632
>American Revolutionary Era
>Colonists want Freedom
>Vampires want to not get killed by Mortals
>The first time Vampires and Mortals ever team up is The American Revolution
>They attempt to live in peace until The Civil War Comes

>>52442699
I'd be inclined to believe at least Lenin is a mortal, but at the same time I'd say that he was assassinated by Vampires and that they abused his socialist system to hey Stalin in charge, who was a Vampire.

>>52442699
Communists in every other country are vampiric aligned, and Rasputin was pure evil. I suspect the events of 1917 were a vampiric civil war.

>>52442728
>Antebellum South was ruled by vampires.
>That's why Sherman put so much of it to the torch.

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>>52442728
>>52442743
OH MY GOD THIS IS GETTING TOO REAL!

>>52442752
IT WAS A DOCUMENTARY ALL ALONG

so, we can summarize:
>Islam: servants of Lilith, vampires (strain I); with a split in werewolves
>Christianity: Holy Magic, with a division into martial (protestant) and mystical (orthodox) aspects with the Catholics as a middle ground
> Jews: demon-summoners and magicians
> Vlad the Impaler: Vampires descending from the Eternal Jew (Strain Ia)
> Mafia: Vampires (strain I)
>Noah: Ripple-users
>Aztecs: Vampires (strain II)
>Incas: Vampire Hunters
>Nazis: Servants of Caine/pissed-off-normies
> America: Vampire Hunters
> Sovie Union: Vampires (likely strain Ib)
> France: Werewolves
> England: Vampires (unsure which strain, likely I or Ib)
> Mongols/Huns: Descendants of Cain and Lilith
>Kek: Aussie Dreamtime shenanigans
>Japan: Vampire Hunters
>China: Vampires (strain III)
> Wendigo: children of Cain and Lilith
> Hindus: children of cain and lilith + demons
> Buddhists: Mystic vampire hunters
> Africa: weird shit

Something I have forgotten?

>>52442741
>>52442743
>Lenin was human, Trotsky was human with a bit more sense than Lenin, and Stalin was a vampire.
>Rasputin was not a Vampire, but a Cain Child. He was perhaps the most powerful, ambitious Cain Child to ever live.
>He was influencing the Vampiric Tzar. The Vampire hegemony triggered the Communist Revolution to reclaim Russia.

Also, wasn't Mao Zedong really big on fucking Virgins? That sounds pretty Vampiric to me.

>>52442741
You know if Stalin is a Vampire, that means that a lot of the countries that were backed by The Soviet Union were actually planned Vampire Uprisings, such as in Vietnam and Cuba.

>Vietnam was to push out Commie Vampires
>Korea was to push out Japanese Refugee Vampires
>Ever since The Civil War America has been doing nothing but stomping Vampire Uprisings all around The Globe

>>52442789
and he lies still in a mausoleum, where people can see his resting body, ready for the time when he will rise again

>>52442741
>>52442743
Illuminate from German Empire spread communism inside Russia to kill off vampires just like the French Revolution. It works until after the Russian Civil War where vampires highjack the party to install Stalin then asassinate anti-vampire Trotsky.

>>52442788
>Vlad was a good guy, who was turned by the Ottoman Vampires he fought against.
>The wandering Jew was Cain, not a vampire.
>Jews aren't demon summoners, but Kabbalists math-wizards
Besides that, the rest of it is all gucci.

>>52442788
The Mongols and Huns were Vampires in the same strain as The Chinese.

>>52442810
who are the demon summoners, then? Or is it just a dark form of kabbalism?

>>52442814
So Finns are Dhampirs?

>>52442829
explains their valiant deeds against the vampire controlled Soviet Union

>>52442829
The entire Scandinavian Area are Muslim Strand Vampires. They were exposed to it by trade with Damascus.

Japan became Muslim Strand Vampires by the time WWI happened

>>52442846
>>52442839
>>52442829
Oh that's right, they were Anti-Soviet
You know what, I bet the Finns were actually the survivors of generations of fighting Scandinavian Vampires who were infected by The Muslims
And THAT'S why they kicked Soviet Vampire Ass SO HARD
THEY'D BEEN DOING IT FOR CENTURIES

>>52442828
Demon Summoners were european occultists. The furthest Solomon ever went in Demonology was cataloguing important/dangerous demons.
They can summon Angels though, although only immaterial ones like Elohim, not super powerful ones like Cherubim or Seraphim.

>>52442846
>>52442862
Scandanavians were Werewolves while they were Norse. Athough they became more Vampiric with the comming of Christianity, there's still a lot of Werewolves running around those parts, particularly in Norway.

>>52441366
what are zoroastrians then? Ripple-masters that were hunted to near extinction by the vampires out of fear for their power to channel sunlight?

>>52442788
One thing you forgot were the Zoroastrians. Zoroastrians are good guys; they're basically anti-hindus. To the Hindus, Asuras are bad, but to Zoroastrians, Ahuras are good. This divergence was the Vedic Schism, which was likely caused by Cain Children

>>52442891
>>52442896
gotta love the /tg/ hivemind

>>52442789
>>52442799
>Illuminate backed Bolshevik
>vampiric Socialist
>vampiric hegemony starts the Russian Revolution to restore true vampiric rule
>Vampiric Russia still wants to destroy Germany to finally drive off Saxon warewolves
>keeps fighting WW1 despite unpopularity
>Bolsheviks start the Russian Civil War to kill off the socialist
>it works to kill many vampires
>Stalin happens

>>52442891
>>52442896
Could be general Non-Mortal Hunters that were raided out on both sides by Hindu Monsters and Vampire Uprisings.

Like some kinda prime example of Mortal Kick-ass.

>>52442909
I think it's far more interesting if The October Revolution was a purely Mortal Based act that got fucked over by Vampire tricks rather than caused by Vampire Tricks.

>>52442891
>>52442896
since Persia fought against the vampire-infested roman empire, this seems likely.
So, what were the Greeks? Does it depend on the polis?

>>52442925
Lets have a middle ground then: The Vampires planted Stalin as a just-in-case situation, if hte Bolsheviks ever became influential. As it so happened, the Russian Revolution occurred, so the Vamps cashed in their previous investment and put Stalin in power.
Stalin himself was either a Thrall or a true Vamp. Mao was definitely a Vamp though.

>>52442925
If you take out the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th line. Communism was a one time Illuminate plan that completely backfired on them

>>52442946
I think it was said somewhere up here: >>52442741
That Stallin was a Vamp so it works out rather great.
And yeah, one big Vampire Commie causes a chain reaction of many other Vampire Communists.

>>52442945
I think it's very likely that Buddha, Confusius, and Socrates were all in cahoots together, spreading their knowledge in their corners of the world and unknowingly preparing their population for Vamps.
The Greeks were prepared for the Romans, and were eventually able to worm their way into the empire and get the Byzantine half diplomatically, all without the Romans noticing they were being played. I'd say that the Greeks did pretty well.

>>52442959
are the Illuminati solely vampires or do they include others (occultists, rogue werewolves, CainxLilith children)? What are the Rothschilds? Kabbalists who united kabbalism with demonology?

>>52442984
I don't know where The Illuminati got involved, but it's been implied that they're like collective Vampires in a great sea of non-unified Vampires.

I assume they started up sometime during The Crusades and got even more popular when The Spanish started beating the fuck out of Aztec Vampires.

>>52442945
>>52442970
Greeks don't sound like vampire hunters per say but they were effectively daemon and monster slayers.

>>52442984
No, Illuminati are misguided humans who are super fucking Machiavelan and will sacrifice anything to stop the Vamps. See >>52442128

Kabbalah and Demonology weren't united, per se. Rather, Demonologists coppied a lot of Kabbalah, but twisted it to a profane form. Unfortunately for them, Kabbalah is very big about precision, so their tainted Kabbalah is pretty weak.

>>52442984
The Rothschilds are a sect of jewish kabbalists that traffick with the archdemon Mammon, with the intent of subduing him and taking his power. To this end, they cooperate with the vampires.

>>52443003
I think Greeks were more likely loyal to their gods, who were a bunch of Children of Cain who were the ones that actually killed Cain, as in Cain was Cronus and Zeus killed him.

And because The Greek Gods pretty much had an awful family history they hated their non-greek siblings and taught them all about how to kill them.

>>52443024
In this way, the Rothschild are very foolish. Dark Magic is Poison in its form and its use.

Have you ever seen a Buddhist monk, how they have a certain... balance of the humours? How they seem to be full of life and wisdom? This is the passive effects of Pure Magic. Without casting even a single spell, Pure Magic strengthens the body and soul through its study.

Dark Magic has the opposite effect. It burns the soul and withers the body. The Rothschilds will never subdue Mammon. We can only hope that, when they fail, they do not give Mammon too much power.

>>52443031
Well, they "killed" Cain. I doubt anyone would try to actually kill Cain, unless they were ready to face a seven-fold revenge from his Mark.

Likely, Cain still wanders the world today. The only real way we can deal with him is if we could _somehow_ build a second Kabbah, and trap him inside. Sollomon's Temple may be the key to this, although this is some magic that's way out of all our leagues.

>>52438197
>spain has near no vampire (or monster) lore
>spain is also protected by the apostle of genocide

>>52442723
>Saxon warewolves were never wiped out from Germany. They created Prussian Militarism to test if highly organized warewolf society works. It was too effective and leads to mortals unifying Germany.

EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED!

>>52443133
Well they spent the whole Colonial Era killing a shit load of Aztec Vampires and were intermixed with Muslin Vampires for a long ass time which caused the creation of The inquisition that murdered loads of Vamps.

That was way earlier in the threat I think.

>>52443154
Were the Portugese Vampires, though? IIRC, they were the ones who offed the Inca, and the Inca were anti-vampire.

>>52440570
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0QCvQFiTQn7

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>>52443173
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s0QCvQFiTQn7
10/10

>>52442970
The Greeks DID do well and for a time the Eastern Roman Empire was a bastion of mortals. Strong Orthodox holy magic kept the Vampires at bay. Justinian almost reconquered Italy from the barbarian vamps/werewolves that had taken over there.

However, it was not to last. Vampires infiltrated and erroded the Empire from within. Eventually, Turkish vampires swept in from the east and were able to crush the ERE. Constantinople was the last to fall when a vampire spy opened the gates to the sieging army.

>>52443169
Possibly.
The Southern States were also Vampire ruled, so it's likely that The Vampires were some of the greatest instigators of The Slave Trade, and knowing how much Brazil imported slaves it wouldn't be crazy to think that Portugal was infested with Spanish Refugee Vampires for a grand time until they started to explore The Free World.

>>52443173
You deserve an award for this.

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Are the Ayys involved at all in the Eternal War, or are they just bystanders?

>>52443173
If that's OC it's an absolute masterwork of trolling.

>>52443204
It ain't me, I just saved it just in case in might come handy

>>52443217
As far as I know the Mesopotamian, Egyptian, and Japanese gods are just bystanders. No mention of Ayy.

>>52443217
I don't think they are. Seems more like a Mythos World.

>>52443217
If primal forces of the universe are duking it out on Earth there's probably a parsec high STAY THE FUCK OUT, HERE BE GOD BATTLES sign on all the space charts of our area.

>>52443198
Spain might have once been warewolf ruled what with all the Germanic tribes bringing along warewolves that resettled or moved through during the Western Roman Empire. Then the Arab vampires attacked from North Africa and these vampires work hard to make sure there is no warewolves in the peninsula.

>>52443299
Do we got a Werewolf Origin about?
Somebody said something about Shiite and Sunni split, but that don't make sense because it implies they once worked together.

>>52443299
Likely, the original Arian Visigoth Spain was Werewolf, but went Human after they went Catholic.

>>52443313
The first Werewolf was Cain, and he's spread it all over. The group that accepted Lycanthropy the easiest were the Shias, although they were not the only group by far. Before that, the Shias were allied with the Vampire muslims, but they were willing to do anything for revenge when the Sunnis killed Ali.

>>52443342
>Shia LeBouf
>werewolf
>The HWNDU raid is trolling the fuck out of a werewolf over the internet

>>52443363
>LeBouf
>French name
>French manipulated by werewolves before
damn, it all fits.

>>52443342
It sure does sound like Werewolves are just a branch of characters that's sorta jammed in their sideways.

I honestly say the world-building is subtracted by their addition.

>>52443423
there* Fuck.

>>52438237
vlad is Van Helsing, the book was written about him so that vampires who read it and searched for him would be killed by his vampire hunting descendants.

>>52443423
>>52443439
That's intentional, though. Cane's been on the run for millenia, and he's been spreading his gifs all this time.

But, its worth mentioning that there is a common bond between all the werewolves. It's faint, but you can see similar behaviours in all their cultures - almost a bit of barbarism - that's reminiscent of Cain's first followers in the times before the Flood.

>>52438672
nonsense, there is nothing a Muslim hates more than another different type of muslim

same thing with us Christians sadly

>>52443487
are scots werewolves then?

>>52443469
Well if there are werewolves about I'd say it'd be way better if we didn't force Cain to be one and put them somewhere that made more sense, a place where they can be independent like The British Isles or North America.

>>52443499
werewolves can be a derivation from Cain, a curse that he inflicted in imitation of his own

>>52438077
>a thin gauze is enough to protect vampires from the Sun
The Vampiric Women in the West have evolved past that primitive technology long ago.

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>>52443555
forgot pic

>>52439929
>The Serpent blesses her with Vampirism.
>the Serpent gives Lilith her fangs
Dude.

>>52440957
Supernatural 2.0

> Thread Soundtrack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ODpg3ZPZ2w


>>52443289
So God is a physical thing in this setting, ergo so are the angels. Seraphim are permanently on fire because they understand the true nature of god a fraction more than any other being that's not an arch-angel.

Humans are made in god's image.

Would this mean that non-god made ayy lamos, (assuming evolution is a thing that happens on planets with less divine interference, ergo better tech.) would combust upon witnessing humans?

>>52443856
Well from what I've gathered so far in The Thread:
>Pagan Gods are actually the children of Cain and Lilith
>Mythos Monsters are physical things
>God isn't actually on earth, and more or less is still in Heaven Realm

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>>52443886
Well, if revelation is also future cannon in this setting, he would not be here, because god physically being on earth has some fantastical effects.

Also, the battle at Armageddon would be some sort of wickedly awesome United forces of justice and good Vs. Vampires and the Evils, led by a Dragon.

It would be like WFB, but a thousand times cooler.

>>52443856
It would be fun to imagine that all the mortal beings had to look away from us just because looking at us would burn out their eyes

This thread is what conspiracy theories are made from and it's absolutely amazing.

>>52443983
>Ask if Muslim Women are Secretly Vampires
>World-Build for like 10 hours

>>52443979
I've had this thougt before while writing a sci-fi setting that had no humans as player characters.

The In-setting federation thing has had for 200 years or so a member of a species picked as their solitary ambassador and the only one allowed outside their backwater solar system.
He must always be veiled in dense robes and thick cloth, and care must be taken not to witness more than a little of his form under it, otherwise severe headaches. But he (Always a Male of the Species) is renowned for his sage advice and calm demeanor.

And the trick for the players was that he is a human from earth, and is a sort of elected Buddhist monk/ Christian Monk/ Whatever sort of person won the election for humanities ambassador for being chill.

>>52443495
Think about it
>hairy
>smelly
>don't wear pants

It checks out.

>>52439866
was the Avignon pope in reality a good guy who wanted to fight against vampire infested Rome?

>>52444341
He may have had a bit of french werewolf backing, but he could well have been - the Catholic church manages to be both a bastion of anti-vampirism, and get infected and controlled by vamps, seemingly multiple times.

Hence the inquisition which, despite its rep, mostly acted internally - there was a constant back and forth and internal purges both for and against the catholic vamps (who, nevertheless, still hate the muslim werewolves, other vamps, and quite often the protestants for being so thoroughly anti-vamp that they target the Church (which also leads to revenge even when the church is human-controlled))

>>52443560
Reminder that if a girl's face looks like a plastic doll, it's all makeup. Beware, look for pores if you don't want to wake up with an uggo.

>>52441335
>art school
man i wonder why normies are so obsessed with hitler's art
it's been a while since i actually studied history, but if i recall correctly, the main root of his rise to power was the end of world war 1 - he was in hospital recovering from a mustard gas attack when germany surrendered, and his indignation at the government being 'weak' and such was what motivated him to campaign against it.

in fact, if germany had won ww1 he wouldn't have been able to rise to power at all, because he played off the emotions of other like-minded people who were similarly angry about germany's surrender and more importantly how it was crippled by both the treaty and incompetent administration.
succeeding in art school or not wouldn't really change any of that, although he might not have joined the army and become so desperate. or not, he might've joined the army anyway - he wanted to fight for his country, after all, and wasn't exactly forced into it.

something something vampires

>>52438077

This would be a great idea for a Sinbad style game or as a medieval-fantasy/supernatural horror game where you play crusaders, merchants, etc. getting lost in a strange foriegn land.

Also, wizards could be a mix of Kabbalah mysticism and Order of Hermies stuff.

Is the north of Spain werewolves, with the South being Vampires?
Would fit with the celtic-esque mythology of the north being so different from the rest of Spain

>>52444651
Probably the most relatable thing about him to most people - you might not know any politicians or public speakers personally, but there's a lot of artists about.

Also failing to get into art school put him in the prime position to develop his views on jews - he was poor and semi-homeless for a while in a big city that was having racial issues at the time, so his position was a hotbed of anti-semitsm (which was common at the time anyway, but he was a young broke dude, that's the easiest demographic to develop extreme views or become radicalised)

Also that anon called him German for some reason

Hitler as fully mundane is fine though, just a bit of Nazi dabbling with both sides, but that was mainly a mortal conflict

>>52444709
It can fit roughly with any period, pretty much, as long as vampires are a thing - they really take off in the Muslim era, but there were some from Egypt before then, and they pop up elsewhere

The Crusades + Supernatural Horror would be pretty cool though

>>52444788
Spain is mostly clear because catholicism and its inquisition, but yeah, the south were vamps (via the Moors), and the north had minor werewolf connections

Not so sure about werewolves being in errything, as >>52443423 says it's a bit jammed in

>>52444741
Isn't Hermeticism already steeped in numerology and elements of Kabbalah?

>>52440802
>Okay, now I wanna add melanoid occultism into this. Just a little
Yakub's creation were an attempt at transhumanism improvement. It worked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAnCpdSISgw

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>>52443078
>if we could _somehow_ build a second Kabbah
The only remaining problem is getting Cain in it.

>>52443217
>>52445516
It could be that some of the Eldritch Things that mucked about in Africa at one point straight up abducted humans and took them offworld, where they force-evolutioned them to be aliens. Which explains why most of the alien encounters are humanoid in shape, they're from the descendants of the people transformed into aliens. Now, the real aliens, the ones who aren't humanoid, only came either because their craft is broke, or they're smugglers trying to poach earthlife.
But back to the humanoid aliens for a bit. They managed to escape/overthrow their eldritch masters and reverse-engineered their corpses for advanced alien tech. Some of them look back to Earth, and saw that it's supposed to be theirs, and thus send infiltrators/agents. Once they met vampires and discerned their ways (making secret societies and shit), the ayys started making humanlike infiltrators. These became the MIBs and black-eyed kids, their purpose is to test the waters and see if there's a large enough crack for them to spread a foothold amidst the vamps and weres and alla dat shit.
Given the popularity of UFO cults in South America, it would seem they have found their foothold.

tl;dr: ayys are the Taus of the setting, if the Taus share ancestry with humans via warp dickery

>>52445671
>Given the popularity of UFO cults in South America
The what now?

>>52445704
It was a thing in the 1970s-1980s. Should be a few still kicking, like the Raelians.
It is said that the Lead Masks Case is the result of one such cult's attempt to contact their celestial masters.