I want to create a setting that's basically the Tang Dynasty in space, but I don't know enough to do it justice. I like the idea of large, open air courts where thirty rows of advisors sit awaiting the word of the emperor and his war minister, but there's also fleets of space ships and the forbidden city takes up a continent. I love ancient Chinese court intrigue and customs, and think it would fit well into a space opera.I was also thinking of having a class of soldiers called the immortals, who can regenerate at a ridiculous rate thanks to an elixir that is next to impossible to manufacture unless you're a space empire. The immortals can only be killed by getting pierced by a special substance, we'll call it jade, which is also super rare. So immortals will carry around jade bladed weapons to fight each other, but making jade bullets is incredibly expensive and wasteful so nobody bothers. So that's my idea for including wuxia fighting as wellAny other ideas? Unique insights into the Tang Dynasty? Recommended reading or watching? Pictures? All is appreciated
>>51189129Of course there'd be space mongols, the khanate would be the scourge of many a system
>>51189159Apparently there were white people in northern China. Or maybe the Manga artist was just taking some liberties. Some non animu pictures would be most honorably appreciated
>>51189203Like I said, court life and intrigue is my shit as far as the dynasties go. Those Tang invented game of thrones style trickery and kin-killing
>>51189246Sorry, I guess you'd call them Han, not Tang
>>51189265Of course the immortals would be leaping around battlefields full of mecha and power armored soldiers wearing only the most fashionable of robes and scarves. Their jade blades would slice through assault drones like butter. The only thing that can kill an immortal is another immortal.And maybe a sufficiently placed missile
>>51189129>Tang Dynasty in spaceHumanity is being ruled by aylumsAll the media is constantly berating the aylums for not behaving like humansThere you go, that's all there is to it.
I'm really going for the idea of this style architecture alongside digital towers and Chinese cyberpunk. The elite classes, the magistrates, governors, super merchants, would all have tang style architecture complete with acres of pristine, private gardens. The commoners would live in mega slums and the undersides of spaceports
>>51189440Is that a historical reference to the behavior of the imperial court? Please elaborate
Maybe there'd be other empires besides space mongols and the Tang. Like the distant caliphate, a space faring empire of wealth and might
>>51189203So see that NorthWestern bit? That's what, I have to assume, is the colonization of the Uyghurs.
>>51189129>I was also thinking of having a class of soldiers called the immortals> The immortals can only be killed by getting pierced by a special substancewell then they're not immortal then?>we'll call it jade, which is also super rare.>he thinks dragon sperm is super rare
>>51191720>well then they're not immortal then?Well what would you call a dude that was just filled with six-dozen rounds of ammunition, laughed it off, and proceeded to wipe out your entire unit?
>>51191720Granted not everything that's called immortal is actually immortal, I think the Persians did something similar and their versions could sure as shit die. But it's a name to fit in with the setting. And again, allows for wuxia shenanigans on a futurustic battlefield without being OP>Dragon ShermanJade was just a quick placeholder name. It could be unobtainium for all I care. Point being it's too rare to fashion into a bullets, so you've got to stick with swords, spears, and other objects that turn into bitchin' legendary heirlooms
>>51191941It's not just Jade, it's Jade alloyed with steel and fitted with special circuits derived from the Immortals. For extra BS, make it so that every piece that can kill an Immortal has to be handforged to properly purge impurities and make it spiritually aligned for its purpose.Because that sort of shit really does fit with any asian-ish setting.
>>51191941Going form the sperm thing, could the material actually be harvested from space dragons?not it's spunt but maybe some produced from it's digestive tract. They're gigantic ship-eating beasts (I figure their normal diet would be metal rich asteroids) That you basically need a well equipped fleet to take down. Maybe your Immortal serum is sourced from them as well, harvested from their spinal fluid?
>>51192218Yes. Something that requires a constant power source (it doesn't have to be bulky -- just too big to fit in a bullet) makes this a little easier to explain.Unless you plan to have some specialist assassins that have a single bullet, commissioned by the Emperor as a last resort, or something.
>>51189129It needs space wizards. I assume China had some sort of 'wizard' like thing you could build off of; be it shamanism or something else.
>>51192342A power source too big for bullets but small enough for hand weapons also means legendary archers can be a thing.
>>51192281I really, really like the idea of asteroid sized space dragons. Maybe there are all sizes of dragons, with the older ones being capital ships sized.I always figured the elixir would be made from the fruit of a tree in the middle of a fuckhuge walled garden that only select priestessess could enter. But the dragon idea is interesting too
>>51191941The name "immortals" of the persian unit is a bad translation of western scholars. They were called "apple bearers" with the apple being a symbol of eternal life in mazdean faith.Which as a unit they were, once a member fell in the line of duty or left service, a new one could join.
>>51192432Agreed. You have your pick between daoist priests and Buddhist priests. I'm not sure on how they'd use magic though. >priest running along tree limbs until he sails over a metal gear mech>fast as lighting, the priest affixes a paper charm to the mechanic, then continues running>mech turns into a thousand doves, John woo ensues
>>51191929>Well what would you call a dude that was just filled with six-dozen rounds of ammunition, laughed it off, and proceeded to wipe out your entire unit?bulletproof maybe but i'm not an expert on immortals
>>51192521In order to become an Immortal one must harvest the final ingredient of the elixir himself. This requires gathering a nodule from the organ behind the crest of a mighty sky dragon. The older and larger the dragon the more potent the elixir, increasing the strength and honor of the Immortal after his transformation.While most dragons reside in the outer layers of gas giants the oldest and greatest lay claim to the outer layers of the stars themselves where they seek to feed on voidships as they refuel their fuel stores.Only those that claim a nodule charged with the lifeblood of a star may ever reach the command ranks of the immortals.
>>51192636He's also fireproof, bombproof, acidproof, and swordproof excepting a sword made out of one specific near-legendary substance. At that point, "Immortal" is easier to say.
>>51189129See Capellan Confederation and House Liao in Battletech.
>>51192810>He's also fireproof, bombproof, acidproof, and swordproof excepting a sword made out of one specific near-legendary substance. At that point, "Immortal" is easier to say.mary sue would be even easier fampai
>>51192959It's mary sue in the same way jedi or space marines are. The immortals are an extremely elite unit that's a vehicle for wuxia fun times on a futuristic battlefield
>>51192860>House LaoiMa nigga
>>51192860Free Tibe--the Capellans!
>>51192860But the Cappies are COMMIES IN SPACE before Xin Sheng, and MODERN CHINA IN SPACE WITH MORE LEADER-CULT after.
>>51193176No, it's Free Taiw... St Ives!
>>51193207Thank you. I knew there was a meme regarding it, but I was too lazy to look up the exacts.
>>51189129House of Flying Daggers is good for the Tang Dynasty. You won't get any court life, but if you're going to add legendary assassins alongside legendary warriors it's good for ideas
>>51192615Elementalists based off of the Five Elements.Maybe work Yin and Yang in there as well.
>>51193675>>51193985Well, if OP wants crazy out there Immortals and wizards shit looking at what there do in some fantasy china kung fu movies would be a good start.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SObzfD9aVo
>>51191584Uyghurs are basically white (and C-UTE)Pic related
>>51195000>UyghursWait I thought they went extinct?! You mean there are still some around where the Red Chinese didn't kill them all?
>>51195403There's 10 million Uyghurs living in China living in harmony with Hans.Han on left, famous and most beloved Uyghur on right.(Include qt Uyghurs in your game OP)
Why specifically the Tang dynasty?
>>51197182Peak empire. Come at me with another dynasty, doesn't hold a candle to the Tang. It controlled all of present day China but the gobi desert, and it lasted long enough to make great strides in medicine, the arts and sciences and warfare. I really want to translate their Imperial nature into a space opera setting
>>51197256Explain the awesome of the Tang a bit more in-depth for those of us unfamiliar with Chinese history.Any popular media that takes place in their era?
>>51197256>Peak empire. Come at me with another dynasty, doesn't hold a candle to the Tang.Three Kingdoms Period, bro. Tang Dynasty ain't got shit on epic warriors like Cao Cao or Lu Bu.
>>51197256Objectively, the CCP dynasty is peak. Objectively.
>>51197291One anon mentioned House of Flying Daggers, but honestly to the untrained eye all the dynasties look the same in popular media. I started the thread hoping to learn more, especially the essence of the imperial aesthetic so I could translate it to a space opera, but I do know a little. The Tang were a dynasty prone to infighting. Brothers murdered fathers murdered sons. But they managed to keep the empire strong. The mongols were doing what mongols do, and every five years a province would rebel because what else you gonna do when you're not farming rice. So military strategy evolved pretty quickly, and I bet that'd be fun for fleet inbetween planets
>>51197677*fleet battles inbetween planets
>>51189129>Tang Dynasty>China>Doing Space China at allWhat the fuck OP. If you are going to do Space Asia, at least do Space Japan.
>>51197703No, GTFO. Space Japan has been done to death. Space Japan came about because Japan was the boogeyman of the 1980s, the techno-aristocracy of the East. Now Japan is stagnant and weak and the Dragon rises.
>>51197703Space japan definitely has a place alongside the interstellar versions of the northern Khanate and the western Caliphate. They're the small cluster of systems housing warlords who constantly fight. Their samurai will be like the immortals, but different. I'll figure it out. Maybe the samuria serve a different battlefield role
>>51197256>>51197182>implying there is 'only' 1 golden age for China
>>51197771>China is strongHa. I'll see you when China is glassed in 20 years.
>>51197925Why would that happen, Anon?
>>51197820Make the samurai something akin to Capsuleers from EVE Online: immortals who die in their starships (that run on skeleton crews because max automation that's all connected to the Capsuleer's brain) but have their consciousness immediately transferred to a clone. Probably keep them to smaller starships, something that's basically all speed and gun; armor is wasted when that metal can just be used to create more starships for your elite clone warriors.This allows them to do maximum banzai, and would also add an entirely new level to their infinite infighting. I also think it adds to the historical legacy of WW2 pilots being told they were effectively the "new samurai," with a bastardized Bushido code.Update the Bushido code to include their new bodies, and how it only exemplefies how dying for your Lord is all important; if you're not dying, you're either the best around and you have slain many foes, or you're simply not fighting hard enough.
>>51195000Like Turks (which they are related to) are basically 'white' right?
>>51197992Light basically means "pale skin and round eyes," nowadays. Don't be a bitch about it.
>>51198002White basically means*Guess who's retarded.
>>51197950>he doesn't know about the Senkaku Islands
>>51198107So in this setting, are these the Death Moons? The celestial objects belong to the Space Tang, and therefore so does any Solar System they choose to inhabit?
This is the Empress of Chinahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LksRg4HZ3ncit is about the end of the Tang Dynasty, the first Female Empress regent Wu Zeitan. as in.controlling the empire herself, not as Empress dowager or as a wife, as the Emperor.would.This is the most expensive T.V. show China has ever produced. Prepare for a wild ride of court politics and backstabbing/poisoning/ bitches killing each-others children and pretending they didn't
>>51198164fukken thank you anon. This is exactly what I needed. I can use this to spin a space opera setting. >>51198132Tell me more about death moons. I've already got fuckhuge dragons that inhabit space and I'd love to add more
>>51198240Your welcome. It amuses me to no end that the Chinese feminine form of 'your Majesty' makes them sound like they're saying meow-meow
>>51198240Basically, just as it is. The Tang build massive "colony" ships full of their people to 'look' for new planets. They just so happen to pass through the systems of the other empires.But all the buildings on it's surface look like this.
>>51198376>The Tang build massive "colony" ships full of their people to 'look' for new planets. They just so happen to pass through the systems of the other empires.Which reminds me... You might want to play the Hate VNs from Steam, they're about a Korean generation colony ship culturally regressing to the the times of the korean Goryeo dynasty, with confucianism. class divisions and stuff.It's a great read if you like politics and personal drama mixed with scifi and there's a free demo.http://store.steampowered.com/app/209370/http://store.steampowered.com/app/239700/
The only Wuxia set in Tang Dynasty China that I've seen is Da Tang You Xia Zhuan/Paladins in Troubled Times, not exactly about court life so much as it is about "benevolence". For a more political show, it's not Tang Dynasty but Lang Ya Bang/Nirvana in Fire is pretty slow paced but is all about political machinations.
>>51198527Also, it has cute AIfus.
>>51189129The Tang is a very romanticized period due to a number of larger than life events surrounding women, like the whole usurpation of the kingdom by Wu Zeitan, a concubine to Emperor Taizong.The other major incident involving a woman is intertwined with the events of the An Lushan rebellion, the tragic (and perhaps disturbing) story of Yang Guifei, who was a concubine to first the Prince of Shou, then after was fancied by his father, the Emperor Xuanzhong, and taken as a concubine. Eventually she was executed by the superstitious escorts of the Emperor as he fled the capital from the rebels. This got most recently adapted into a 2015 film called "Lady of the Dynasty".
>>51192860House Liao is far more patterned after northern Khitan Liao China rather than the southern dynasties.
>>51197182>>51197291>>51197677Not the OP, but the Tang represent in some sense the "golden age" of the ancient Chinese dynasties - only the Han dynasty is spoken of as reverentially. There's a certain sort of tragic mystique to it as well due to a sort of recurrent theme in Tang history writing of a sense of impending rot from the inside, as unprecedented prosperity gives rise to greed and ambition (as to how much of this is an imposition by later historians is something for historiographers to debate)
>>51198817In terms of legacy, the Tang was in some sense the last bastion of ethnic Han rule (although one could argue that this too is a construct of sorts). The following Song Dynasty would lose almost all of Northern China to the Khitan tribes (which in turn formed the Liao dynasty), and eventually both halves of China would be crushed by the Mongols who would set up the Yuan dynasty. The Ming would mark a brief resurgence of Han ethnic rule but this also gave way to the Manchu Qing.The Tang are also very well known for their set of legal reforms resulting in the Tang Code, which was a major influence on subsequent dynasties as well as regional regimes trying to copy (and thus borrow the prestige of) Chinese institutions, as in Vietnam, Korea, and Japan.The other major innovation in the Tang was the separation of the civil service examinations into two tiers - one, the mingjing, tested rote knowledge and generally favoured wealthy candidates; but the second category, the jinshi, tested aptitude by getting students to respond in written essays to common questions or problems of governance. It is this latter form of the service examination that could be considered the first "meritocratic examinations."
>>51192342They say that only one was ever commisioned, during the reign of the fourth empire. It's crafter was immediately put to death after the first one. A bullet of jade. Supposedly it was lost during a rebellion, or stolen by pirates, or destroyed, or used. Some believe that all these are only cover stories to hide the fact that it rests with one of the imperial assassin families. But if so, which clan holds that honour?And yet whatever the truth, the story of this artefact is a thousand times more powerful than the item itself could ever be. If it does exist any immortal may be killed instantly by a single well placed sniper-assassin. Any lord that contemplates rebellion had best ask himself before all, not whether the jade bullet exists, but whether he is willing to take the risk that it might.
>>51198943Many of the ideas in the Tang reforms were mainly to create a professional, highly educated, and capable administration of court officials that had less ties to the land and more ties to the court and Emperor. This of course however introduced another key set of players whose loyalty could be swayed and resulted in factionalism and infighting at court between highly influential court officials, members of the royal family, eunuchs, and nobility - from which the stuff of countless Chinese TV dramas are made.Stability under the Tang also meant that China during this period slowly shifted from a predominantly agrarian economy to a cash-based economy with specialist labour. One consequence of this was that the Tang tax system, originally designed for collecting agricultural taxes in kind, proved to be a poor source of state revenue as cash came to dominate the economy. Aggravating the income situation was the fact that Tang armies were constantly expanding into Central Asia and clashing with the Tibetan Empire and even the Uighurs, representing a considerable state expense.The regime compensated by selling monopolies on salt, but as is usually the case economic growth resulted in winners and losers and widening gaps between rich and poor.Much as in the example of the Roman Empire, having charismatic and victorious leaders all alone on the frontier commanding large armies who are personally loyal to them and not the state is a bad idea - the An Lushan rebellion was a textbook example of this and the dynasty never really quite recovered afterward.Anyway that's about all I can give as a summary of the Tang. You'd need to crack open a textbook for more detail. One pretty useful source for pre-Qing Chinese history in English is "The Open Empire: A History of China through 1600" by Valerie Hansen - although I would add some caution - it's very readable but the author does work very hard against the "conventional" narrative and not all historians agree.
>>51197974But dieing in clone bodies is not true death no matter how you spin it. Bushido is all about embracing death, and capsuling is avoidance of it. Make them be unique in that they reject respawning. ie, where a tang general with a thousand years of life and experience would know when to back down and retreat, or die and respawn, the soldier who has specifically disabled his backup respawn and is still fighting to the death will push further, take bigger risks, and pull off more amazing stunts. Just think how terrifying it would be for a thousand year old warrior to face such a suicidal being in battle. What a moral loss it would be to face such a fanatical soldier.
Op, it sounds you want something between L5R and Exalted but with a strong Chinese favor and IN SPACE. I'm not sure what system you should use for the guts of the settling but a lot of frame work from Exalted and L5R could be use to do Tang empire in space.
>>51198946That was supposed to be the reign of the fourth emperor
Here's a question you should answer for yourself OP.Why in space? Aside from superficial reasons like aesthetics or because it's cool that is. What do you want to do in space that you can't do with the regular Tang? How will your stories benefit from being in space? How will your players know that they're in space aside from the descriptions you give?You said you wanted Tang Dynasty in Space. Make sure you don't forget the space part.
>>51192566>lol "immortals" was a bad translation guys>it totally actually means "bearer of [eternal life]"Are you dense?
>>51189129Kuo Lung is a series of novels about space age china having taken over the world.
>>51192342it could be that they're blessed by the celestial court
>>51189129The Tang Dynasty is one of my favorite Chinese Dynasties. A couple things I remember about it is that the invention of gunpowder is traced to some point during this dynasty to some sort of Chinese monk. Of course it would be centuries later before anything significant came of this invention but its still a testament to the times.For that matter, it can also be said that Buddhism reached its highest point of prosperity during this dynasty. There were many prosperous communities built around Buddhist monasteries during this period, so much so that toward the end of the Tang Dynasty the state saw fit to clamp down on them and limit their autonomy and influence.Of course there's also the rebellion of An Lushan, which was a major factor in the Dynasty's decline. If the records are to be believed, it was such a devastating conflict that hundreds of thousands of people ended up dying. Apparently if not for An Lushan's defeat in one or two battles he could've very well seized control and become the new emperor.
>>51189203Another thing to consider is I believe this is the point when Marco Polo and trade with the west began. If you want western culture to be... in trouble/extinct consider stating that the dragons were over hunted, being intelligent creatures with great power, they smashed the Sacred Empire and burned it's capital turning the people to salt and city to glass. The rest of the world was rent by toxic fumes from Volcanos and buried like Pompeii.These refugees lead by the great trade master and explorer Marco came to the Dynasty seeking shelter and are being absorbed into the Dynasty. Their religion blending in with the local one forming a new faith for them. With them though they also brought a wealth of ideas, and some tech. One of these though had to be left behind let's say it was their Version of Mechs that were crafted from the bones of Dragons. Hence why they were mass butchering dragons.
>>51200291There's no evidence that marco polo even existed.
>>51197677>The Tang were a dynasty prone to infighting. Brothers murdered fathers murdered sons.Not a Tang issue, but a steppe culture general issue. The Ottomans too had to find workaround that balanced the maintainance of an empire with their steppe culture mores.
>>51201934Well the dates of his birth, death, and resting place of his remains all say there is evidence of his existence.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Polo
>>51199620That's a good point. The reason I want to set it in space is for kind of the star wars feel, for lack of a better term. Imagine if you will.Youve got the juxposition of visiting the emperor's palace. First it's the scale. Everything's opulent, majestic and huge. He or she's palace takes up a continent, full of walled gardens, astrology towers and libraries, not to mention his actual court. Fifty rows of advisors sitting with heads bowed as they wait on the word of the emperor. You approach him as courtiers pluck absent mindedly on their instruments.Now the juxposition part. Outside of the court is full blown grimey sci fi. Waves of soldiers on the Frontier planets alongside mechs and airsupport getting destroyed by the Khanat's latest incursion. There are heroes, that's a big thing. Among the common soldiers and robots they're immortals leaping around performing godlike feats and trying their skill against the enemy's greatest warriorsSo your point is valid, I can't forget the space part, but I love the duality of majestic empire with heroes and sci fi warfare. It's why I like the space opera genre so much. And the Chinese period in question is ripe for space adaptation. It's little less common then space Rome or space Krauts
So this is what I have so far, thank you most knowledgeable anons, and further input is appreciated.(This is a homebrew system that'll be tailored to the style of play once I develop it further)This party can choose to be loosely associated mercenaries, or an assassin group, or a political group, or a group of drunk warrior friends. Really it's up to their imaginations. They probably won't begin by meeting up with the emperor, but maybe a governor of a province on some backwater planet. Very peaceful planet though, surrounded by mountains and rivers, the Empire terraformed most planets to look like southern china if doable. The governor asks them to check out a little something, I'll drum up a list of possibilities for the GM, and then the little something turns out to be a big something. Now comes the hard part. >ClassesI've got a couple, I just need some help refining them. >Martial Classes:>1. Enhanced OnesWhat, you thought you'd get to be an immortal? Not yet son, that's a hard journey and you've got to prove yourself before you get a taste of that sweet, sweet elixir. Almost nobody gets it, but that's where the private sector comes in.Enhanced Ones are the corporate answer to the Empire's Immortals. You're chock full of nanites and other enhancements to make you stronger, faster and more durable. Hopefully you're not some uppity merchant's dog, because this procedure is not cheap. Maybe you escaped or paid off your debt or were banished from a Trade Guild. You're whole style is to get in the enemy's face and Kung Fu their exo-suit into scrap. You probably have a futuristic blade weapon, and maybe a gun. Though firearms are a waste when you can cover yards in a split-second leap.>2.Assassin This Martial Class focuses on stealth. While the Enhanced Ones are jumping around teabagging war-walker mechs, you're using active camo and Tang trickery to seriously fuck up someone's day. You can snipe, stab, gank and lay some wicked traps. Cont
>>51204213Assassins can hold their own in combat too, but if you're in prolonged hand-to-hand you're doing it wrong. >Priesthood>1. Taoist Priest You're a space wizard. You can shoot lighting from your fingers, fire from your mouth, and the wind answers your kicks. You know some charms too, just don't get caught up with an enemy. Stay back and pour down death. >2. Buddhist PriestYou know magic and martial arts! A blend of the Enhanced Ones and the Taoist, you can stick charms on enemies and then buddha palm them into oblivion. Be careful though, you can dodge attacks like the wind, but if they land a hit you're not getting back up.>More? What other classes can I use? Have I covered my bases pretty well with all playstyles? I've got punch, sneak, magic, and magic/punch, but I bet their are other ways to play. More so, in anons experience, do all classes have to be tailored to fighting? What if you want to be the chinese version of a geisha? Or a merchant? Maybe the geisha commands magic and the merchant has a robotic bodyguard who Tanks for him.
>>51204293Then there's the other aspects of the game. I'll have to drum up a weapons chart, everything from plasma swords to vibro-spears to BFG's and LFG's. And gear, I almost want to incorporate Tang fashion of the period.Then there's the actual space aspect.Do you have a ship? How are you getting from planet to planet, system to system? What are you going to do when you're zipping along and you find a dragon curled lazily around a moon? Outside of the imperial governor and elite palaces, are there hive cities? Super Singapores that reach the outer atmosphere?
>>51198107>this retard get his news only from /pol/ and school childrens there.The issue is already done and resolved. Both Japan and China agreed to cooperate to gain the underwater resources.China isn't the US and their foreign policy isn't to destroy or destabilize every country that have any resources they wanted.
>>51204512You do realize China recently threw bombers over Japanese waters right? The Chinese want nothing more than to bully Japan because they can.
>>51197502>a period of bloody civil war>peak empireUm
>>51204512>>51204541Japan and China have cooperated in a lot of economic, education and trade issues, more so than with the United States, considering their trade with each other.This is also true in regards to China and India.Only insecure retards who don't want to read anything other than tabloids believe China and Japan government dislike each other a lot when the opposite is proven true.>>51204541International waters as claimed by US. Deliberately done to flip a finger to the US forces stationed in Okinawa for doing the same to China forces.Japanese government don't even care.
>>51197256Don't forget that the Tang is also distinguished by being more open to other cultures- central Asian merchants, diplomatcs and dancing girls in the capital, a mix of religions, much less in the way of strait-laced Confucian orthodoxy and more in the way of partying.
>>51198107>nuclear (or even large-scale conventional) war>over uninhabited rocksHell no. Over Taiwan, maybe.
>>51204619Then why have they errected defense systems and strengthened air patrols around the South China Sea and Sea of Japan? Why are they pushing for a stronger military presence in response to the Chinese actions? Why as the Chinese PM and MoD gone on record to say that China will retaliate in some way over these transgressions? You are fucking stupid. >>51204664Border disputes usually escalate into full-scale war senpai.
>>51204677>Then why have they errected defense systems and strengthened air patrols around the South China Sea and Sea of Japan? Why are they pushing for a stronger military presence in response to the Chinese actions? Why as the Chinese PM and MoD gone on record to say that China will retaliate in some way over these transgressions? You are fucking stupid.You are the retard here. If you take China tabloids regarding US as you take Western tabloids regarding China seriously, US already nuke the entire world three times over.
>>51204712That's not an argument. You still haven't refuted any of my goddamn points.
>>51204677What? The world's full of silly border disputes. China's had some going on for decades without major wars.Seehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territorial_disputes
>>51204727They are exaggerated misleading falsehoods which can't be proven in reality through checking documents because the papers have to pander. That's the point.
>>51204734When you have two countries that have been at each others' throats for ages as well as left-over hostility from WWII, you are bound to have conflict at some point. Especially between a communist state and a country ruled by a ultraconservative, nationalist supermajority.>>51204743Again, you are still not providing an argument, only saying, "nuh uh". Either provide an argument or shut the fuck up.
>>51204765>you are bound to have conflict at some pointI disagree with this assumption.>Especially between a communist state and a country ruled by a ultraconservative, nationalist supermajority.And this one- why would having different political systems make them more likely to go to war? China's government is itself ultraconservative and nationalist, by the way.
>>51204818>I disagree with this assumption.Kek ok, that's not a fucking argument.>why would having different political systems make them more likely to go to war? This is fucking simple. Why do people of different religions go to war? Why did the Cold War happen? Why did WWII happen? Why have the countless other wars in history happen? Because people dislike things that are different and discomfort leads to conflict. This is basic human nature.>China's government is itself ultraconservative and nationalist, by the way.I was moreso pointing out that Japan is a capitalist country and China isn't.
>>51189129Very neat idea. Look for Chinese historical dramas- there's bound to be some about the Tang dynasty, possibly about Empress We Zetian (would be neat to have an empress, actually) or the An Lushan rebellion.
>>51189129One of the four great pieces of Chinese literature, Journey to the West, is set during the Tang dynasty. And the historical Sanxang that inspired the tale with his pilgrimage to India to recover Buddhist scriptures.But the first five chapters, about the Great Sage Equaling Heaven, Sun Wukong's rebellion against the gods and the Jade Emperor, could also be choke full of inspiration.
>>51204867I don't have to make an argument, all you're doing is speculating wildly about something that may or may not happen. But it's obvious you're working from massive and uninformed generalisations. E.g. first you claim>Border disputes usually escalate into full-scale war And I show you that's an assumption which isn't actually true at all. Now you offer another giant unproven generalisation...>Why have the countless other wars in history happen? Because people dislike things that are different and discomfort leads to conflict.Nope, there are billions of differences in the world and very, very few of them lead to war. To pick one example...>why did WWII happen?Because Germany invaded Poland. Do you seriously believe it happened because the British and French governments said 'we're parliamentary democracies, they're Nazis, and we don't like Nazis'?>Japan is a capitalist country and China isn'tIn what way do you think China isn't capitalist?
>>51205002>I don't have to make an argumentYes you do.> Now you offer another giant unproven generalisationLooking at the circumstances between China and Japan, we can see these circumstances repeated throughout history and in those instances we have seen full-scale war as a result.>Do you seriously believe it happened because the British and French governments said 'we're parliamentary democracies, they're Nazis, and we don't like Nazis'?The reason why people stay in wars is because differences in policy, religion, ethnicity/race, nationality, ect...Wars start for specific reasons but drag on for more general reasons.>In what way do you think China isn't capitalist?They say they are communist. Therefore they can't be capitalist. It's that simple.
>>51205066>The reason why people stay in wars is because differences in policy, religion, ethnicity/race, nationality, ectWhat? So WWII started over Poland, and would have ended in a year or so except that Britain decided the Germans were just too darned different?Assuming that you're right, Japan is actually one of the most culturally similar countries to China in the world- they share a lot of the written language, the people look alike, they have similar religious traditions, etc etc. Using your wacky theory they're actually the -least- likely to be at war, and China should be fighting... I don't know, the Netherlands or something.>we can see these circumstances repeated throughout historyWhich circumstances? Examples?>They say they are communist. Therefore they can't be capitalist. It's that simple.Oh, I see. And I guess North Korea is really democratic because it's called a Democratic People's Republic?
>>51197992Turks are the results of race-mixing between Turkics, Arabs, and Anatolians. Not saying that's a bad thing, but they lost a lot of their whiteness.Uyghurs don't have that problem.
Monitoring this thread to steal shit for Infinity Yu Jing.
This is more Tibetan than chinese, but if your going for that starwars blend of fantasy sci fi it's good reference for land dragons
>>51205490Imagine there's gundam and spaceports hidden nearby and you've got a good setting
>>51204293>>51205512I like the idea of the merchant class having a robot companion that does all the fighting, that has some interesting potential. I just don't know how'd you differentiate it from the Enhanced Ones class gameplay wise
>>51205343Yes, we get it, Uyghurs are cute (cute!) but where are the blond headed ones like >>51189203
>>51200291Fucking love it. Nothing adds to a setting like a migrant crisis and a clash of cultures
>>51205561What's a good name for the space Tang empire? Eternal Mandate of Heaven's Great Domain? Mandarian has a funny way of naming things that's kinda catchy
>>51205585Most Uyghurs are brunettes. Blonde is uncommon but they do exist.
>>51191720>well then they're not immortal then?Daoist immortals were never unkillable. They were just absurdly powerful and could live more-or-less forever.
>>51189129>Song of the Long MarchGood taste OP.
Good work OP and other anons, I'm learning a lot in this thread. Kudos.>>51205066>They say they are communist. Therefore they can't be capitalist. It's that simple. You're an actual retard. Do you even try to use your brain?
>>51189129What languages are they speaking? What's the ethnic make up?
>>51208892Well, the official Imperial language would be, let's see, historically speaking I think it was Han? Which is also an ethnic group, but I believe that was the language as well. So a futuristic version of that. Point being it's a single language promoted by the government. Now, as far as ethnic makeup goes...It's a system spanning empire, so there'll be a bunch of groups. The dominate group will be again, something analogous to the Han, but the empire itself will be incredibly diversified. There will be mutants and almost-humans too, representing the futuristic implications of genetic tampering, but of course royalty and most government positions will be given to only people who can trace themselves back genetically as 100% human. And you better have charts and scrolls with your lineage too. But I also think there should be aliens. Not too many, but on the fringe worlds. There is alien life out there, but it hasn't quite made it into human controlled space yet. There are neighboring empires as well;To the "north" is the Khanate, an empire that's pretty similiar to the mongols and is a thorn in almost everyone's side. To the "east" is the Warlord systems, basically space japan, systems full of bickering warlords and their samurai warriors (like the immortals)To the west is the Caliphate, Araabbbian Nights in space, and you bet your ass they can go toe to toe with the Tang Empire in terms of military might and wealth. A little farther "west" is the space analogue of the Byzantium Empire, they're also super powerful, but they're also in constant conflict with barbarian aliensI still need help with the classes I've outlined here though >>51204213>>51204293, if any one's got something creative
>>51209237Han isn't a language, dude. That refers to the ethnicity; Chinese doesn't have a unifying spoken language but does have a unified script. Maybe what you're thinking of is Hanyu as defined by outsiders, which implies Mandarin, but even that isn't strictly correct.What did they even speak in the Tang Dynasty?All your other ideas are pretty boss. Does your Mandated by Heaven Tang Space Empire collect tribute or tithes from the others?
>>51209405Good point, I'll have to wiki the official language then, or just make it up. There are lots of languages technically, but if you want to play ball in imperial politics or organized trade, you've got to speak the official tongue as spoken by the Imperial Court. And the Empire is huge on taxation, absolutely. There are periods of widespread corruption, growing more blatant, followed by reforms that are usually spurned by someone big getting assassinated. So a cycle of corruption, head-honcho shuffling, then reform. But the head honcho shuffling is only ever between the elite families. No peasant's going to make it to emperor, that's not what Heaven wants.Outside the empire though, no. There are huge system trade tariffs, the Empire (still need a name) and the Caliphate trade, as do the Empire and the Khanate when they're not fighting. The warlords to the east (space japan) mostly keeps their commerce and fighting between themselves, as their really caught up in their own world. Island culture in space, amirite? I can't understate how big trade is though between the empires. There may be Emperors and Sultans and Great Khans, but there's a galaxy version of the Silk Road and it is incredibly profitable for anyone willing to risk their camel- er, space ships on the journey
>>51189129Will you include a Sun Wukong figure in your setting?
>>51209664Most trade volumes and routes depend on how your FTL works. Throw a few ideas at me and I'll see what I can do to make it feel more real.Also, a quick way to make space japan really feel like an island is to make it an astronomically (all puns intended) rare phenomenon: a system with more than 3 suns. Some workarounds will be needed, but with a slower ftl drive availabe to them, and the suns being close-ish together (without disrupting too many orbits), it can be done (I once made a 5 sun system in GURPS, which is why I use the books but never play it).Space Japan is basically Firefly with Samurai.
>>51209664It'd just be easier to use Mandarin as your official language and as your lingua franca.
>The Mandate of Heaven is a giant superweapon gifted to the current dynasty by the Ancients>Every dynasty has always held onto it as the touchstone of it's rule>All the successor dynasties are required by law to capture it before even considered for rulership.
>>51209802Hard sci fi is not my strong suit, it's why I like the narrative aspects of space operas but struggle with the tech outside of "don't worry they figured it out"But their FTL factors into their combat too, so I'll give my thoughts so far and see what you think. >FTL is basically just transporting yourself through a higher dimension. You've seen the trick where someone draws two dots on a piece of paper and then folds the paper. Yeah, simple.But here's the thing. Not only can you send ships through the higher dimension, you can also send weapons. So as long as you know the coordinates of a planet, you can pour nukes through the core until the planet implodes.So how do you keep people a trillion light years away from porting bombs up your ass? You create an anchor field. >Anchor Field Most planets have one, and ships too, but it takes a fuck-ton of energy to generate it so usually only Empires can pull it off. So anchor fields prevent higher dimension fuckery. But there's also the problem of being a ship with an Anchor Field. Most merchant vessels don't have them, because in order to teleport bombs somewhere you have to have a >War Tower (Big ass sky scraper full of tech) And again, only Empires really have them. So unless the merchant vessel has some really, really powerful enemies they don't need an Anchor Field. But if you're an Imperial War vessel? Ho boy, better suit up cause the nukes are coming. So as a warship, if you always have an anchor field, how are you supposed to port' somewhere? Or even send FTL communication? Well you have to turn off your anchor field first. So you better hope you're somewhere safe when you do. But that leaves ten billion merchant vessels without the money to install higher dimensional tech, what to they do?Well, the big empires, The Tang, the Khanate, the Caliphate and the Byzantines all have big ass star gates set up in prominent systems. Boom, trade routes for the merchants
>>51210434So as far as the space analogue of Japan goes, maybe they have fewer star gates, so if you want to get to their tightly packed systems (they're all close together) you've got to teleport in
>>51209664That's not true to the real world Tang. Empires as far flung as Rome paid respect to it. It was paid tribute and wealth and diplomats constantly sought its attention.
>>51210508hmm, I want the Big 4, the Empire, the Khanate, the Caliphate and the Byzantines to be on pretty equal footing. Like maybe the Empire's the biggest, but everyone's got the military might to go toe-to-toe with each other. But I suppose that even if you're a peer, you still pay tribute? In that case maybe all of the merchants and diplomats of the big 4 pay tribute to each other
>>51209237Hey, OP don't forget about the secretive but powerful empire to 'southeast' in the 'subcontinent' area of space near your Tang Empire. I think they could be quite a big 'shadow' power in your setting with their demi-god rulers being quite a match to 'immortals'.
>>51210655You're talking about India right? I like it, there can be many princedoms, very wealthy and of course having a hand in the trade routes>>51210434And since I've already got the ol' wheel turning, I might as well elaborate on space combat. So if there's anchor fields and you can't port' nukes onto everyone, how are you supposed to wipe out fleets?>LasersOldie but good one, if you train enough laser batteries on the enemy ship, you'll cook everyone alive onboard and melt some of the more vulnerable systems. Plus there's not many defenses against it.>MissilesYeah yeah, another oldie, but it's proven to be a reliable way of transporting death in your enemy's direction >Velocity Cannon Firing whatever you want at near lightspeedSo besides War Towers that use higher dimensional tech, that's how you kill things in this setting. But what about defenses? I've already mentioned >Anchor fields To protect against someone putting a nuke in you, but how to keep a Velocity Cannon from obliterating your planet with a handful of bottle caps?>Density ShieldThey're measured in POB. So a 200 POB shield can take 200 items fired simultaneously at near light speed before it buckles. Every planet has a density shield they'll throw up during a siege, and if you want to land troops you usually have to try and overload the shield
>>51197256>It controlled all of present day China but the gobi desertNo they didn't, China didn't come near to its modern borders until the Yuan. During the Tang dynasty China had to deal with the Tibetan Empire which even briefly captured the imperial capital in 763 AD.
>>51189203There were a lot of Sogdians from modern Uzbekistan, especially before the An Lushan Rebellion.>>51200291>I believe this is the point when Marco Polo and trade with the west beganYou're several centuries off.
>>51211581A Sogdian merchant.
>>51197502I want to believe in a more fragmented chinese scifi world with all the various different eras of dynasties, kingdoms, city states, tribes and all other social/political/religious movements represented in various splinter or far off colonies.
>>51191584>>51195000>>51205343>>51205585Uyghurs are themselves normal looking (central) asian people BLEACHED by several peoples who are now extinct like the soghdians, tocharians, etc.
Well, game play wise I would advocate a D6 system with exploding dice. Since this will be a settling it seems with very large extremes. So with it you can show the ordinary guy next to the near god like being next to him while using the same system and allows even the little guy to be fucking heroic at times.
>>51212288I figured D6 would be a good system, but what do you mean by exploding dice?Also, does anyone know of a good galaxy map maker program? Nothing fancy, just something that makes a big, glowy galaxy and allows for me to draw boxes around things and label them
>>51212340>exploding dice?It like the Star Wars Saga rpg system where you have a special D6 you roll with the rest of your skill dice. But if that special die rolls a 6 you get to roll again and it adds to the total roll. The kicker is that if you keep rolling 6's with special die or dice the skill success keeps going up until you stop rolling 6's. So even if not often you can get some crazy rolls with this system. I think it would fit what you are going for action wise.
>>51211659The result is good so who cares
Bump for this setting could be interesting.
>>51205066>They say they are communist. Therefore they can't be capitalist. It's that simple.Retarded /pol/tard, to be redundant, detected.
>>51189129Hope you keep us uptodate OP once you finished.
>>51204765>When you have two countries that have been at each others' throats for ages as well as left-over hostility from WWII, you are bound to have conflict at some point. Especially between a communist state and a country ruled by a ultraconservative, nationalist supermajority.No, they won't. Anyone who thinks there will be open conflict between two nuclear-armed superpowers is a fucking dumbass who slept through history class one too many times.At the absolute worse, there will be a Cold War 2.0. That likely won't happen, because China and the US likes money that comes with open trade agreements.
>>51189129This thread needs more Chinese sci fi
>>51221203It's not all sci fi actually
>>51221294If you pick more then one waifu you'll ruin your laifu
>>51204604Point me to another period of the empire that has heroes as awesome, and maybe I'll consider your point. ;)
>>51223263Tang Taizong, who was so awesome as a general and emperor that he was required study for all subsequent emperors, regardless of dynasty. Even the Song studied him hardcore. He's also what made the Shaolin monks famous.He was firmly against superstitions and lavish spending and was well known for being receptive to criticism. One of his trusted critics, Wei Zheng, was originally his brother's chief advisor. Upon finally defeating his brother, he inquired Wei Zheng at his trial as to why his brother died. The defiant Wei Zheng answered that his brother lost because he didn't take his advice to kill Tang Taizong early on. Tang Taizong laughed and instead of listening to the chorus of people shouting for his death, he told him that he'd be advising him from now on. Wei Zheng was well known for being outspoken at court, promising Tang Taizong that he wanted to be not a loyal officer but a meritocratic officer. Upon Wei Zheng's death, his frugality was so intense that they actually had to knock down his home's doorway just to get the coffin inside for his body - this is a time where the size and fanciness of your doorway directly correlates to your assumed wealth.
Your setting needs more neon or at least a stand-in for it.
>>51224411Tron Lines fucking everywhere.http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TronLines
>>51189203There were also dark-skinned people (see: period art of the hero of the Kunlun Slave fable)
So would the culture just be Tang Dynasty set in a Sci-fi world? Orr would there be a strong mix of future tropes clashing with ancient tradition? I think a blend would be more interesting but those are hard to balance.
>>51231063Can you give some examples?
>>51231063The blend is what I want with the setting. It's what draws me to it. The juxtaposition of Tang style architecture and court customs set against futuristic space-faring empires. Kung Fu Immortals taking on moon-sized dragons in deep space. The Imperial army fighting the raiding war vessels of the Khanate. Etc.
I dig it
>>51221315Alternatively you are an Condor Hero.I think.
For visual reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAtcdJCsggkThe series is 貞觀之治 (reign name of Tang Taizong).and is apparently one of the most historically accurate dramas in regards to costume and interior design. The plot can seem a bit dry but that is because it follows the official histories quite closely without many of the often added fictional romances or intrigues found elsewhere.
>>51231167Well, there is an anime called 7th Samurai that tries to redo the original movie as a sci-fi series. It's a bit hit or miss in a few places but could the kind of feeling OP is going for in their setting.
>>51227592Probably negritos from South-East asia origin.
>>51189440I think you are thinking of the Yuan or Qing dynasty.
>>51236613Can you find it in English? I'm deeply interested.
>>51189440>TFW that's totally after the Tang and when Mongols were ruling but still living in tents like they were still animal herders.
>>51189129Fun fact OP, did you know the Tang Dynasty were chubby chasers? >>51191412 Kinda shows it, but they thought an ample female form was desirable, probably a sign of influence from nearby tribes. Pic related, these were what wealthy Tang maidens looked like.
>>51242628Being somewhat plump was desirable in older times, mainly because it showed you had the money to eat in excess
>>51243621Yeah, it was pretty much universal that women should have a little bit of softness, but that's a far cry from fat. Tang were pretty unique in that regard, especially in East Asia.
>>51241804Sorry not to my knowledge. The best you might get is Chinese subtitles. Good English translations of ancient Chinese historical dramas are hard to find because of the relative niche market and the difficulty of accurately getting nuances like ancient political titles and keeping track of the names. Cheap translations are often full of errors and inconsistencies, and expensive accurate translations rarely happen due to the cost and time. Hence why I suggested the series as a visual guide to Tang Dynasty China (unless one knows Mandarin or can read Chinese subtitles).
>>51241804You can search the web for subtitle groups that do certain show types. There are all kinds, you must have to look for groups that specialize in historical dramas.
>>51243621So THICC isn't a meme?
>>51248020THICC has been around for about 28,000 years
Tang art sucks. It was supposedly the high point of Chinese culture, but it's obsessed with this awful yellow green glaze on all its sculptures. The Tang sections of the museums are FULL of it.
>>51248536It was probably because they were trying to mimic the look of their own bronze art or that of an earlier period. Since metal was such a scarce commodity.
>>51249456Naw, no way man. It looks too different.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sancai
>>51248536Tang poetry is considered among the best Chinese poetry. The glaze thing is different tastes for a different era. Tang Dynasty architecture is also popular for its elegance compared to latter gaudier styles in Qing, but ironically one can find better examples of Tang style architecture in Japan nowadays since Japanese emissaries at the time copied the style (along with clothing style and government structure, and most other Tang stuff). That is why for example accurate Tang Dynasty female clothes look almost like Japanese kimonos, though it is more accurate to say kimonos were based on the Tang style.Song Dynasty is considered an artistic high point but Chinese do not like to dwell so much on it because it was a militarily weak dynasty.
>>51192281Have you guys heard of Ambergris? Essentially, sperm whales create these stones around undigested waste (usually giant squid beaks) in a similar way to pearl, in order to protect their digestive system.Similarly, space dragons could have created Dragon Jade from the things they did not digest from eating spaceships. Maybe sometimes electronics were encased in Dragon Jade, and this makes them emit a certain frequency that disrupts the Immortals' nanites when electricity flows through them.
>>51221187No Warframes? Shame!I think the concept and styles of warframe can be a pretty good source of inspiration, just ignore the potato children.
>>51250883>WarframesI'm guessing something like that could be incorporated into OP setting. But I'm not sure if they would be the 'Immortal' or just below that and be the squads led by 'Immortals'.
>>51189129I have nothing to contribute but wanna express my appreciation for this thread.
>>51252324>Unarmed fighter>Swordfish as a spirit animal, meaning that the person having one should be good with the blade>Fish, a symbol of the sea, is on fireI'm so confused by this picture.
>>51252919Just imagine it as a Stand/tulpa and move on
>>51197950Does it matter? China eats itself once every couple generations, and has since the dawn of time.
Documentary on the history of the Daming Palace, dubbed in English, that also walks the viewer through the Tang Dynasty's history:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoSIpWbqS60
>>51252919An alien biosphere living in an Io-ish environment. Inorganic creatures swimming in lava in a sea of molten sulfur beneath a crust of solidified stone.
>>51249941>Chinese do not like to dwell so much on it Well, unless you're Jin Yong. Legend of the Condor Heroes, Return of the Condor Heroes and Demi-Gods and Semi-Devils are all set during the Song dynasty, off the top of my head, and the LotCH book opens right up with a Taoist priest railing against the Jin and beating up both them and Song collaborators.
>>51255095I meant dwelling on the dynasty itself. The Song dynasty while cultured tends to get a reputation as effete and weak. By contrast, the Tang is seen as strong. Stories set in the Song Dynasty are more often to do with characters that are on the fringes of society, sometimes fighting against the corruption of officials in the government.
Are there other space organisms other than the dragons?
>>51195752>>51195000>>51205764>>51205343>UyghursSomewhat off topic but they kind of remind me of what all those South Korean girls nowadays are doing now looks wise. It's kind of funny that there are a race of people out there that look exactly like what the South Koreans want to be but without all the plastic surgery. I wonder if K-pop has reached the Uyghurs yet? Someone should really make a K-pop group made up of cute Uyghur girls, they just have the right look for it. Back on topic, if there are proto-Uyghurs in OP's setting I would think a lot of higher ups would have them as waifus since they look exotic but are still part of the empire. It would probably be a sign of status to have one as a servant or courtesan.
>>51255413If it would factor into game play, sure, I bet there's a fun way to incorporate flocks of space-faring stingrays and migrating swarms of void sparrows, like what you see in treasure planet. The dragons are important thought, as the nigh unkillable creatures are important to the creation of super-effective warriors
>>51258291Uyghurs are becoming more prominent in Chinese movies/tv shows. The Uyghur region in Xinjiang are still very poor, it'll take time.
>>51255413Dyson tree ivy. Has an annoying tendency to grow parasitically on the hulls of spacecrafts until the roots cause an air leak unless scraped off.
So OP if you're still around will your setting have giant mecha running around like gundams or zoids? And if so what form do you want them to take?
>>51263959Ho yes. Giant mecha is a must. Alongside nanite swarms and exosuit soldiers. It's gotta be a fully futuristic battlefield, because it'll be such a start contrast to the Tang architecture and customs of the royals and elites (which will still be futuristic, but you'll only see that if you scratch underneath the gold flecked paint of the palace walls) it's a fun duality, a lot like starwars with its space faring fleets and wizard sword masters
>>51264184Sorry, never actually answered your question. I prefer the Zoids module of mecha, as in fast paced, as opposed to the heavier, clunky mechs like AT-AT's. Fast and agile just screams futuristic to me, but im open to other, cooler ideas
>>51263959Forget gundams, how about a giant-ass god of war?
>>51189129>Tang Dynasty in space, but I don't know enough to do it justiceThen fucking educate yourself. It's not that fucking hard to read a bunch of books>>51189159>Tang>Space MongolsSeriously, EDUCATE yourself
>>51264878Oh dear, you don't seem to grasp the concept of thread discussion!But that's okay, what don't you head over to /b/? They seem a bit more your speed :)
>>51264716Actually I was playing around with what the idea of Heaven would look like in a sci fi setting. Including Gods and Heavenly Courts alongside capital ships and FTL would be interesting. I don't think I'd have them be overtly present, more like a vague presence. Unreachable unless you pissed them off or went against their mandate, then they'd descend and whup your ass. Or at least try to. Rebelling against Heaven and the consequences in a sci fi setting is also interesting
>>51265355>what the idea of Heaven would look like in a sci fi setting. Including Gods and Heavenly Courts alongside capital ships and FTL would be interestingI had no idea how much I wanted this until now.
>>51192615>aint gotta explain shit
What is the sound of a single shell casing?
>>51189440kek this is good, but you should also factor in the fact that the Manchu basically forced themselves into Chineseness
>>51197820>>51197974>>51199124To be honest the "dude copy your consciousness" thing has been done to death.>>51204293>priesthoodTaoists don't necessarily care, but violent Buddhist monasticism in China was pretty much unheard of outside of Shaolin AFAIK. Not outside of sporadic monk associated revolts and stuff that is, which is very different from Shaolin's martial tradition (and not all Shaolin monks actually trained martial arts, and not all of those who did would actually kill people).If you're simply going for camp it's fine I guess, but if you want to flesh out the philosophical and religious life in your Space Tang, do some research.>>51192615>I'm not sure on how they'd use magic though. Elementalism/Alchemy, Feng Shui in general or for Taoists only. Psychic powers for Buddhists, there are tons of examples of those in the sutras.
>>51265355>Including Gods and Heavenly Courts alongside capital ships and FTL would be interesting.I'm guessing like Asgard but more Ancient Chinese motif.
>>51267424Thank you Anon, this is good information. So the Taoist priest subclass might look like some last airbender shit, which would be pretty cool. Or maybe an "area of effect" damage dealer, if I'm interpreting Feng Shui correctly, which is peace and harmony with an environment, but I might tweak to area manipulation. And Buddhist, I like the psychic power bit. that can really fun in game. To be honest I might make 4 subclasses in the Priesthood>Taoist Alchemist>Taoist Elemental Master>Martial Buddhist >Psychic Buddhist
So for backdrops in this setting do you think images like these work for it?
>TFW you need to harvest stuff from a space dragon but you need something to take it down what do?
>>51273028>Domesticated space dragons. Either used as attack animals to fight feral space dragons or harvested themselves.
>Ctrl+F Outlaw star>0 resultsI am disappointed in you /tg/. That series had Taoist magic users in space for god sake and the villains were about as Chinese as possible.
>>51274897>autistic animeNo thanks