>>51111911
>Turns out the Tyranids left their home galaxy to escape tumblrfaggots

fuck outta here

>>51112020
>Turns out the tumblrfaggots left their home galaxy to escape tumblrfaggots

>>51111911
The only things I know about these things is that they are libtards made cartoon

explain to me these things

>>51112306
Evil empire of shapeshifting aliens with caste system organized by gem type.

>>51112306
There's not much to it really. It's a kids cartoon with annoying characters. Some people like the aesthetics of it, while some people like it because it has magical space lesbians that are transforming rocks that Dragonball style fuse. Generally I think it's pretty shit

>>51112306
The part that's relevant right now is that there's a species of waifu-themed artificially created berzerker Von Neumann machines built to assault, transform, and consume planets. They're weirdly individual for this purpose and there's internal struggle as a result.

There's also a kid's show attached to this premise for some reason.

>>51112359
This, pretty much.

Greg and Andy are best characters. Steven is becoming a reasonable character.

Peridot is best gem, though that's not saying much.

>>51112306
They're genderless alien gem things with hardlight bodies, ruled by a caste system.

They're a neat alien race if you can ignore the heavy-handed gender politics.

>>51112306
What >>51112359 said, but he neglected to mention they're silicon-based lifeforms, literally largeish sentient gemstones that create solid light 'bodies' around themselves to appear humanoid.

Technically genderless, they regardless express their bodies as exclusively female. They reproduce by harvesting the minerals of rocky planets, leading me to theorize that they aren't a natural race but rather a constructed one that may have once been the servitors of an older and more powerful race.

Their society is extremely rigid. There is no mobility in caste, and each caste has a different form and relative power level. Rubies are disposable ground troops, pearls are lowest of the low servants, various varieties of quartz are mook lieutenants and shock troopers, peridots serve as skilled workers and engineers, various other gem castes fill various other roles, and at the top of the caste are diamonds, of which there are only 3-4 at a time. These are leaders with the most independent thought, largest in size, and most powerful in terms of pure combat prowess.

Their technology is advanced, mostly based on solid light, though they do use rock, metal, and crystal in many cases. They have FTL, high-tier energy weapons, teleportation, and gravity manipulation.

Here's where the stupid starts. The show centers on Steven, a human-gem hybrid that shouldn't exist and the ultimate fate of is anyone's guess, and a few gems known as "The Crystal Gems" that rebelled from the caste system and set about making Earth their home when the human race was still in the Stone Age. They ended up kicking the larger empire off Earth, leaving it litered with gem ruins, experiments, and monsters, and remained the only gems on the planet for millennia. They watched humanity come into it's own, interacting with humans at times. Despite this, they still have only a loose grasp on human culture, emotions, and society.

>>51111911
is that a dreidel?

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Actually a pretty thought post on /pol/ about SU.

>>51112690
Also, don't forget gems that came inperfect in their making are seem as even more low class, and used as guards/ manual labor, and the gems on Earth were capable of winning because they had more numbers before, but said numbers are half locked away because they turned into extremists, and other half were captured and used for nazi level experiments.

I find it even funny. I have some friends that 4chin would call tumbrl faggot leftist orother buzzword, and they simply hate Rose. Why? Because she was the leader of the rebellion and by pure curiosity after I dont know how many millenia killed herself trying to reproduce with a human, that in consequence made the gem rebellion looser, one of her most trusted lietnants bitter and also said human she reproduced with. And what came out of her? An weird hybrid of gem and human that doesnt seem to adapt well, has unstable powers and seems extremelly childish.

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>>51113014

>doesnt seem to adapt well

That's like one of the big reasons Steven is so important to the Crystal Gems because adapts. Shit, if it wasn't for Steven adapting to the situation and befriending Peridot the Earth would have been destroyed by the Cluster.

>>51113014
My personal theory is that Steven is a budding Empath, and the whole series started as Sugar's idea of "What if we made the anime protagonist's stupid-high charisma ability to make friends with everyone even enemies a realistic concept?"

>>51112690
It's probably because it's a kids show but I find the idea that the breaking point is supposed this terrifying instrument of genocide to be utterly laughable, I mean for fucks sake it's just a big tungsten carbide pile driver. It's made even worse by the fact that by my calculations (based on amethysts fall) a .338 lapua should be able to put about 1000 Newtons more force than what it took to crack a quartz class gem.

>>51112690
Con't. Sorry, internet dropped out of nowhere and had to switch to mobile to type out the rest.

Steven was created when their leader Rose Quartz fell in love with a human NEET named Greg. I shit you not, a millennia old intelligent construct fell in love with a 20-something wannabe rocker who legally changed his last name to Universe. Anyway they somehow bumped uglies and got Rose pregnant, even though that's not something gems should be even remotely capable of. Instead of ending like a regular pregnancy, this sin cost Rose her life as she was absorbed into her newborn son, a gem-human hybrid with his dead mom's physical gemstone form embedded in his belly.

Steven has some of the abilities of a gem, like he can manifest hard light melee weapons and shapeshift. He discovers more powers as the series goes, but no one really knows the extent of his potential. He still needs to eat and breath like a regular human though, and he seems to be aging albeit at a slower rate. Besides that he's a cute fat kid with boundless optimism, absolutely sickening at times really.

Basically the show revolves around Steven and his lesbian space rock surrogate mothers Garnet, Amethyst, and Pearl going on missions to secure ancient gem ruins, artifacts, and monsters. Occasionally his deadbeat dad stumbled in when he's not running a shitty car wash or getting high in the back of the van he lives in.

I only watch it for the lore, the characters are nearly intolerable.

>>51113220
So far, from what we've seen, I'd almost conclude that due to the gems interference humanity took a more peaceful route in history, probably because Rose kept stopping fights because muh humans.

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People crying about ITS TUMBLR about this show are just a bunch of dumb faggots.
If anything the series makes tumblerites super mad because of the fact it doesn't follow or try to cater to their insane extremist beliefs.
It takes more than a couple of gay characters to actually make a show "tumblr".

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>>51111911
I thought they were running from pic related.

>>51113002
>>51113086
Is that a virus?

>>51113354
Pretty much this. I find it hilarious that we argue more about this show than Dumblr or Plebbit does.

>>51113406
X-parasites are dumb as fuck, horrible idea.

>>51113002
>>51113086
I'm genuinely impressed by how accurate that analysis of the show is.
Also, never thought I'd see the day when I'd be praising something coming straight out of /pol/. We are truly living strange times, aren't we ?

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>>51113903
>We are truly living strange times, aren't we ?
Not strange enough
Not yet

>>51112382
I get told it feels "SoCal", whatever that means.

>>51113903
I haven't watched the show in a while, but yeah, it's a pretty good analysis.
In particular, that last part about how it reads like particularly good HFY is quite accurate.

>>51114013
SoCalization, the byproduct of a majority of TV shows and Movies adopting the laws and politics of the area their studios are based in, namely Southern California. Stuff like Age of Consent, Driving Age, Traffic Laws, and political views are adopted by the show.

>>51112306
Interestingly enough, the latest episodes, wich have been some of the best, have been very anti-libtard.

Also the ending of Lion 3 is a pretty comfy, and paints a nice message about the importance of family love and the beauty of childbirth.

Also Tumblr gets super salty that the show paints Bismuth, who is essentially "Black Lives Matter: The Character" as a bad person who needed to be locked up for her own good

>>51113002
>>51113086
Holy shit, I agree with /pol/ for once? What sorcery is this?

>>51113320
Well if anything then they'd definitely have guns that could hurt gems, as hunting weapons tend to be designed for single shots that will kill really big things in one shot, whereas a lot of modern military weapons are more about putting out loads of lower calibre bullets more so for their ability to pin targets than to actually kill things in one shot.

And besides we know that modern tanks have been invented in their world so clearly they can't be too far off in military capability.

Still they feel really weak for a supposedly FTL capable inter-galactic type 2-3 empire.
Especially when going by the murals of the various diamonds they only seem to control about 60 celestial bodies between them.

>emprah dies
>eye of terra is created
>somehow the astronomican still stays on
>the astronomican lures the nids into the eye of terra

brilliant

>>51113002
>>51113086

This... is incredible, well-reasoned meta-analysis of a korean picture show that plays on a channel with "Cartoon" in the name. I am both appalled and aroused. Truly, we live in a wonderous age!

>>51114431
I think that's owed to the fact that they've gone largely uncontested in the galaxy. The Earth Rebellion was a big Fucking deal. A Diamond had never been shattered before, and no one ever bothered to rebel before. Basically the Gem's first contact with alien life was earth, and it basically shoved a massive wrench in their machine.

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>>51113002
>>51113086

>>51114613
Whether intentionally or not, Steven Universe portrays fathers and father figures in a positive light while throwing shade on an incompetent and violent matriarchal society.

>>51114678

Well okay then

but Greg doesnt seem like the greatest parent ever even if he can change a diaper

>>51114712
The tl;dr goes into Greg's portrayal too.

>>51112306
They're three lesbians raising a retarded son.

>>51112068
>that's unironically why I'm on 4chan now
Tumblr was such a toxic shithole, most of the normal non she fags fled and ended up either here or reddit

>>51114241
They mean the art style. Which is why the statement means nothing to me.

>>51114333
>Holy shit, I agree with /pol/ for once? What sorcery is this?
Maybe you stopped being wrong. /pol/ is often correct.

>>51112306
The gems are a race of super powered all female matriarchs who are constantly shown as intensely flawed and hypocritical, and their society is genocidal with leaders happy to blow up planets from sheer spite.

The only hope for humanity is for a weird small white boy to grow into a true leader and save the gems from themselves.

As you can see it is a very tumblr show.

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>>51113086
>>51113002
>>51114678
>>51114712
>>51114743

Welp, If anything this is the smoking gun we're looking for.

See, /co/ to some degree liked SU, as evidenced by /sug/ they argue about it, but they argue about it within the fanbase.

/tg/ on the other hand, argues about whether it's a good show or not incessantly. Mainly because we want to like this show. It has better characterization, better story, and better lore than a metric fuckton of cartoons out there, yet we get so hung up on the SJW shit that it prevents us from discerning whether it's actually enjoyable or not.

This, however, makes the show absolutely amazing. Looking at in this light, the show isn't SJW, it's Rhetoric that smashes everything the fanbase stands for, and makes it highly appealing.

Also, because this is the OP's description:

http://homeworldgems40k.tumblr.com/

Yes it's exactly what you think. I have no idea if it's good or not.

>>51114536
Even then you'd think for how advanced they even their mining equipment would be vastly superior to modern human weapons.

I mean look at the BETA from Muv-Luv, very few of the BETA types are actually primarily designed for combat and yet they basically steamrolled earth for the longest time.

But again this is a kids show so it should really be except, and I shouldn't be comparing it to something as gory and pornographic as Muv-Luv of all things.

>>51113002
>>51113086
>It's actually secretly redpilled goys!
Yeah, nah. This is one of 'those' posts to try and calm people.
>"This was our argument for mass effect 10 years ago!"
Fuck off mate

>>51114842

>boy

>>51114830

Caltech produced a number of high profile artists in the past 10 years who all had a signature style based around blobby wobbly characters that could be produced quickly without worrying much about QUALITY happening from rushed animation.

It's the Adventure Time/Star vs Forces of Evil/Gumball/Chowder/Steven Universe/Cartoon Network in general artstyle.

>>51114854
I'm impressed they managed to squeeze that much cancer into a single image.

>>51113002
>>51113086
Reading this reminded me of the special screenings for autistic people that my local cinema runs.

Now whenever I see them advertised I'm going to imagine that they all have a guy in a Disney character mask stood next to the screen, stating out loud every character nuance for the disabled audience and framing them as special secrets that others can't see.

>>51114333
>>51114485

The analysis of the show itself is pretty much spot on. The /pol/ only leaks through in the tangential analysis, like the digs that women (by right of lacking the most important thinking organ a human can possess: a penis) are physically unable to conceive of women as being the bad guys, so all of this 'goes over their heads'.

Its still a good analysis of the show, but it could be edited down to strip out the unnecessary /pol/pinions.

>>51113002
>>51113086
>If I overanalize a cartoon I can make it corroborate my world view.
Damn it's like people shipping characters who only talk two seconds to each other but at a whole other level.

>>51114712
Actually, hes an excellent father figure given the circumstances. If you notice throughout the series Greg is usually the main person Steven goes to for emotional support and advice, he always tries to involve himself in Steven's life and teach him things, he's open to Steven about his past and the lessons he can learn from it, and he tries to be a somewhat positive role-model and be active in the raising of his son?

Is he perfect? No, but no one is, and he has had to do a lot of growing up since his younger and reckless days. But from the flashbacks you can definitely see how he has grown and matured from the idiot young man he was. Plus being a single father, having to share time with your son with a bunch of alien rock ladies who have no idea how biological life works and who are generally distrustful of you (or outright hostile like Pearl), has got to be pretty difficult to deal with and manage.

Really, he's a decent parent and honestly does the best for his son, and performs admirably when you look at the shit hand life had dealt him in regards to trying to raise his son.

Plus considering he has fulfilled /tg/'s great goal of boning a hot alien chick and having a hybrid son, that man has got to be some kind of Hero to /tg/

>>51112690
Explained this way Gems seem like a combination of Orks and the society from Brave New World.

>>51113165
This pretty much.

>>51114431
My opinion is that FTL is relatively recent for their empire, they just had the advantage of being essentially immortal except through violence. In the last few episodes the crystal gems were surprised at sudden FTL jumps.
They do have some form of teleportation technology, but according to episodes it's the kind where you have to get there first, build it, then you can get free travel.

Rose was banking on the role humans could play, probably in the long game.

Leads me to believe>>51114536
>>51114431
is right, that they're actually relatively new or unchallenged to the galactic scene.

My personal belief is that the gem 'empire' is old, but only old in that gems don't give any fuck about long interstellar voyages- The gem rebellion was able to hold out because they had time to entrench, and then centuries of the diamonds backing off because it's one world that was a pet project of Pink's.

>>51113002
STORYTIEM posts on /pol/?

>>51114931
The value is in it's ability to present the broad themes of a cartoon in a way that's salty enough for /pol/ consumption. It's built to break through the barriers they put up and give them something that's about on their level to enjoy. It might be ugly as fuck to read, but it's a noble effort to help the autistic.

Steven universe is shit and the only reason people remember it exists is MUH PROGRESSIVE POLITICS and MUH ANIME REFERENCES

>>51114712
>but Greg doesnt seem like the greatest parent ever even if he can change a diaper

He comes off as bumbling but is actually a really good Dad in a pinch. He jsut doesn't know shit about aliens.

There's actually an episode that just came out that shows him learning to be a good single Dad.

>>51112306
Space lesbians protect a half-alien human boy in saturday morning cartoon battles with a subplot of half-alien boy bonding with his single Father and the other people in his town. It's worth a watch, just don't ever look to tumblr or the fandom ever because it's cancer.

>>51113354
Agreed. DESU it's pretty anti-extremist in general and has a pretty neutral tone- Be yourself, your family is important, you can't change people unless they want to change themselves, etc.

Even the episode with the Traditionalist Uncle was about not thinking he's a jerk and just realizing people are afraid of change.

>>51114013
>>51114241
Which is weird because it's based in a new england beach town iirc.

They mean it has lots of bright pastels, everyone looks like tumblr took an 80s glitter shit, and there's a lot of Hipster character designs.

It's the modern version of 80s glam cartoons

>>51114333
>Holy shit, I agree with /pol/ for once? What sorcery is this?
>>51114836

/pol/ is always right for the wrong reasons. It's a lot about context.

>>51114820
You're not wrong.

>>51114854
>it's Rhetoric that smashes everything the fanbase stands for, and makes it highly appealing.

It's interesting because last year they had a big thing where Tumblr went full tumblr and harassed a girl so bad she attempted suicide for drawing one of the Thicc gems as slightly skinnier than the normal art style and the creative minds behind SU I think got an idea of just how crazy some of the SJW tumblr shit is.

There's a reason there's a lot more Greg this season.

>>51114912
It was for /pol/ , of cours eit's retarded

>>51114836
Sorry, but I'm not a racist piece of trash who believes that the Jews are the root of all evil. I only voted for Trump because he was honestly the lesser evil than Hillary, originally I had hope for Ben Carson to have the nomination.

Also I'm not a luddite who thinks Climate Change is a myth (though the level of exaggeration and fearmongering the Left makes over it is bullcrap and generally a means of begging for support and money).

Further I'm an ethnic mutt, and a member of a non-Nicene compliant heretical denomination, so I'm pretty sure that even if I were a /pol/lack, they sure as heck wouldn't accept me.

I'll stay away from /pol/ and stick to being just a myself

>>51115324
That's not all, if I recall correctly Tumblr bullied a staff member off Twitter as well, and i think there was another person they almost pushed to suicide but I'm not as sure about that one.

>>51115180
>or the fandom ever because it's cancer.
Isn't that true to basically any fandom?
>>51115458
>and a member of a non-Nicene compliant heretical denomination
Leave and never come back, you fucking heretic.

>>51115207
Definitely. It's like how /pol/ will criticize SJWs for identity politics, while they do the exact same shit. The in-group vs out-group mentality is endemic to all kinds of extremist worldview.

>>51115477
IIRC it was one of the artists, who made a big psot about how they don't care -how- people draw the gems, because the entire show is about how you should be comfortable as yourself.

Which promptly got everyone death threats and tumblrrage.

>>51115477
>i think there was another person they almost pushed to suicide
I dunno if they pushed a second person, the first was some poor 15 year old girl.

>>51115501
>Isn't that true to basically any fandom?
It's particularly virulent because a lot of the SJW identity-politic underbelly got swept in- gives them something to post to show how their special snowflake gender needs to be upheld by society.

>>51115548
>The in-group vs out-group mentality is endemic to all kinds of extremist worldview.
pretty much this.
I go on /pol/ and it's nice to have a place where contrarian views can be aired but fuck if I believe half the shit they post.

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>>51115501
Wat's wrong, butthurt over religious freedom and separation of church and state?
Upset that your specific denomination isn't accepted by everyone?
The Great Awakening and other religious revival movements get you booty bothered?

>>51115501
>Isn't that true to basically any fandom?
No, son. The Steven Universe fandom is a special kind of cancer. It's been voted on multiple occasions to be the single most toxic fandom known today.

>>51113086
>>51113002
The thing we for get is that /pol/acks, for as much shit as we give them, are still very capable of being grounded and making accurate social and philosophical observations when they're not shitposting, memeing, or stuffing their heads up their own asses.

Also, he brings up a good point that I never actually thought about, which is how fucked up Steven would be if he only had one parent and it wasn't Greg.

>Pearl- resentful and bitter with all of her crippling and dysfunctional insecurities latching on to the first person to show a little kindness
>Amythest-An irresponsible manchild always chasing the next thrill and never understanding why he can't maintain relationships with actual adults
>Garnet- An on the surface picture-perfect child, who constantly pushes himself in the hopes of eliciting A gesture more affectionate than a stoic nod of approval who deeply resents what he feels is a lack of trust and faith from his parent-Litterally fucking Horus.

>>51115807
>The Great Awakening and other religious revival movements get you booty bothered?
>Implying the second and third Great Awakening didn't turn protestantism in a borderline parody of itself.
>>51115881
>It's been voted on multiple occasions to be the single most toxic fandom known today.
Really? By who? Genuinely curious, especially because places like /co/ would just name the largest fanbase there, which I assume is the SU one.

>>51116045
>Bullies fan artists to attempted suicide
>Harrasses staff members
>Got so bad that for possibly the first time ever, the creators of the show directly intervened and asked the fandom to chill the fuck out and stop being such shitcunts

I'll never not find it hilarious how triggered 4chan gets over steven universe.

the way some of you guys get over a cartoon make it seem like the creator of it killed your parents in front of you and made you dig the graves

>>51116149
>he hasn't read the thread
>he doesn't know the reaction on these threads in /tg/ is generally "better than I had expected"

>>51115922
>which is how fucked up Steven would be if he only had one parent and it wasn't Greg.
There's a growing amount of evidence that single parents are the worst environment for a kid. Mostly because there's more single parents.

However, statistically it doesn't matter what gender they are or who they are, just that there's more than one and that the other parents be stable and available- There's a reason family groups are stronger whent he grandparents are around and there's statistical evidence grandparents and kids living in the same home increases both of their happiness and longevity.

>>51116045
>Really? By who? Genuinely curious, especially because places like /co/ would just name the largest fanbase there, which I assume is the SU one.
Tumblr got so toxic the creators actually had to come down and tell people that fanart can look however the fuck they want.

Then tumblr send the creators death threats and shitposts until one of them quit social media over it.

>>51114931
Most of them women the poster is talking about are, though.

>>51113014
to be fair, the reason he is childish and his powers are wonky are probably because he is still a child learning how to use his powers.

>>51115458
I'm all of things except the 'heretical denomination' aspect (full on Atheist), yet I still go there without flipping out. Do I agree with everything they say? No, but I think a lot of the core messages, the freedom of speech and thought angles, wanting to keep the west from collapsing through various idiot policies, anti-oligarchic rhetoric, and culture, racial, and national pride, are essentially benign and positive things. That it's buried under the muh jews muh christianity muh fuck women and gays bits is just unfortunate.

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>>51116132
>>51116345
I was assuming there was an actual poll or something like that, but I see now why the fanbase would be so hated.

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>>51116541
>implying they weren't here already
Someone has never been to a dragon thread or beastmen thread on /tg/

>>51116541
But they're rocks with eyes

>>51116323
Sorta true, sorta not true. Two parent homes are universally better than single parent ones, but it turns out that lesbian couples are generally worse than gay couples are generally worse than straight ones, at raising kids. Draw your own conclusions for why that is, but they're not statically identical.

Though yes, you're also correct that kids raised with living grandparents as well as two parents tend to turn out even better.

>>51116594
So golems?

>>51114820
That's a special kind of depressing.

>>51116681
Intelligent golems who's body consists of a mid sized gemstone, but it manifests a hard light humanoid pseudo body around itself. This pseudo body can take enough damage to be temporarily destroyed, referred to in the show as "poofing" the gem, but then it just takes some time to regenerate and manifests its pseudo body again. They can be killed permanently by shattering their true gem body.

>>51116740
>They can be killed permanently by shattering their true gem body.
You can also use the shards to create a sentient planet-cracking bomb.

>>51116798
Which manifests a planet-sized pseudobody that's eldritch abomination levels of fucked up in anatomy, if I understand the Cluster correctly.

>>51116798
That was basically a massive cluster of shards trying to combine and make their minds whole, and achieve physical form again.

The hard-light body of a giant cluster combined with the fact that it would have been an insane horror would have destroyed the earth.

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>tfw you will never power snuggle with your harem of Quartzes
>tfw you will never nestle your face in their floofy hair
All I want is the Snu-Snu! Is that so wrong?

Played right and with a more serious flavor, I think Gems could actually make a decent playable race in a Spelljammer type setting. Given all Gem adventurers would have to be either rebels who've found individuality or Gem Empire agents with an abnormal amount of free reign and a specific mission to accomplish for the Empire.

>>51114856
the main reason the BETA are able to do that is through a combination of sheer numbers, and the fact that the Laser class are able to neutralize Humanity's best way to fight them

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Hey, anyone else notice how androgenous most of the people in the Zoo were?
I did, and I had some theories, but they weren't really solidified until the Choosening happened, when it solidified for me.

Now, since they were in that zoo, and judging from the way they were being kept, we can assuredly say that those humans were domesticated, right? And the Choosening is basically the Gems deciding which ones should mate.

Now then, as most people know, most breeds of domestic animals that humans have are such breeds due to years of selective breeding for specific traits that are viewed as desirable. Given that the Gems are selecting which humans are allowed to breed and with whom, I don't think its too far of a stretch to say that the Gems have actually en selectively breeding the Humans in the Zoo for particular traits that are aesthetically pleasing to them, hence the effeminate/androgenous features, which themselves reflect the types of physical features the Gems themselves possess.

In other words, the Humans in the Zoo have been selectively bred for ages (possibly since roughly after the stone-age) to appeal to the Gems' aesthetic of beauty in some large millennia long eugenics program! The Humans in the Zoo are effectively the Pugs of Humanity!

>>51117122
I guess that would explain why they seem to have cleft palates. What's with the fucking :3 faces everywhere?

>>51117270
I think its cheep drawing tactic for indicating large lips, but comes across not as intended

>>51113002
>>51113086

Well fuck, he makes it seem like a show worth watching. Is that out StoryTiem by the way? The one who played 2D in that Shadowrun game?

>>51116926
needs a brazzers logo

>>51114856

Their mining equipment WAS vastly superior.

They had the ability to inject shit deep into the mantle of the Earth.

Their long term plan for earth, to make it a 'fully functional' colony, would have involved stripping it of so many resources that the planet would have become a largely hollow honycomb latice built around the tiny dyson sphere esq powerplant they would compress the planet's core into.

And that was with 5000 year old tech. Even then, their ability to reshape a planet would have killed us all.

>>51117005
Sounds like Rogue Trader or Dark Heresy.

>>51114820
You're a non-shefag? What's your kik? I want someone to talk to about attack resolution mechanics with.

>>51111911
>Ruby Ships are fighters/attack-craft/shuttles
>Nephrite Saucers are bulk landers / transports
>Roaming Eyes are an automated scout frigate
>Peridot's Hand is roughly equivalent to a cruiser
>Diamond Arms are battleships
What other gemcraft have we seen?
It's all but assured that we're going to seem some power-rangers shit later on, right?

>>51116323
I wasn't really making a jab at single or lesbian mothers, but rather at how dysfunctional the Crystal Gems are shown to be in the series and how their lack of understanding of other sapient life as well as their own neuroses and/or mental issues would make them by themselves unsuitable parent's. Greg has the benefits of not only being a human, but a rather well adjusted one at that, if a bit too easygoing and immature.

If Greg had to take care of Steven by himself, there are still chances of Steven turning out in any of the aforementioned ways, but they are much less certain and there's also the chance that Steven would turn out to be a perfectly well-Adjusted adult.

>>51114897
>Caltech produced
Caltech does ART?

>>51116345
This is also more or less why Korra went to shit, the creators getting revenge on Tumblr

>>51120008
Had a yuri ending so I don't really mind.

>>51120054
you are the cancer

>>51120008
>the creators getting revenge
More like pandering. The creators thought that including a lesbian relationship would get people to defend how awful the story was. And they were right.

Though Korra had never been good. The first season is wasted potential, and the rest had no potential.

>>51113002
>>51113014

The problem with this analysis is that it's not unintended. Sugar (The creator) is just a hipster. Although her political beliefs do align with her being a massive tumblr dyke, she can only really get her rocks off by being a contrarian.

The show started out as librel fap bait, because that was new and edgy and cartoon TV lesbains, so controversial! But now that she has a massive fanbase audience, she can't help but try to twist their love for the show into an excuse to get them to backtrack on their beliefs and catch themselves in a philosophical snare trap.

Which is fine, I guess, it's good political commentary, but it really still isn't any different than the next evolutionary step of tumblr elitism. "Haha, gotcha! See, you thought the male characters were bad the whole time, but we suddenly wrote in good qualities of character for them! Haha, wow! What a hypocritical bigot you all are!"

Basically this is what happens to a tumblr hipster when they surround themselves with other tumblr hipsters, they start turning on their own.

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>>51115128
If they've been so uncontested in the galaxy at large, why do they need so many soldiers?

Either there's rebellions elsewhere we don't know about or they have an enemy capable of matching them, or even beating them in multiple aspects.

Maybe in a reverse of OP's situation, the Gems need to produce soldiers in large numbers on dwindling resources because they're fighting a bunch of not!Tyranids?

>>51117795

> headships as deep space resource collection. They eat asteroids and internal refineries extract useful materials and process them into equipment and ship parts

> legships designs as landing castles. You load the leg 'tower' with troops, and it drops out of the sky onto the ground with force, the foot immediately opening up into a off-ramp for rapid troop deployment as cannons at the top of the leg provide bombardment and covering fire. There is a warp pad inside each leg for further reinforcements, either from homeworld or closer sources.

> bodyship stays in space, usually acts as a local command post and field base. Everything else docs with the bodyship, and the bodyship has a powerful gravity engine that can FTL the entire assembly. Big enough to store at least a couple handships and a number of roaming eyes internally.

With this setup, a complete 'body' can effectively wage a planetary campaign. The body FTLs in and breaks part into 5 pieces. The chest, head, and arms engage any spaceborn defenses while the legs charge for the surface, landing in population centers and launching missiles at whatever on the way down. The legs land and immediately begin disgorging gem armies, possible dropping a landing force and them lifting off to the next target to create as many touchdown points as possible in as short a time as it can. The head splits off and begins consuming local materials to create whatever is necessary to supply a prolonged campaign and shorten supply lines, while the armships and handships are used to defend the chest or strike at targets as directed. Even a handship can easily raze a city, and its armor is no joke. The laser light cannons (each powerful enough to one shot a Red Eye) couldn't even scratch the one handship we saw, and its safe to say the armships are probably stronger than.

Its not a foolproof plan, but only a very technologically advanced planet could repel that sort of blitzkrieg.

>>51120255

My personally guess is that the gems don't actually NEED that many soldiers, but its ultimately an irrelevant detail to them.

The gems are clearly artificial. They are made, not born. They are build to specifications, and each class of gem is designed to perform a specific function. The diamonds might be a special case, but all of the others are built to do the thing they do and (by intent, if not always in practice) nothing more.

Its debatable who built them, but their purpose is clear: the gems expand and defend the empire. So they make more soldiers, take more territory, colonize more worlds, and use those worlds and resources to make more soldiers, perpetuating the loop.

Why?

To expand and defend the empire.

They are effectively immortal. Beyond building more stuff, they don't actually NEED more worlds and resources. They might not even do all that much fighting. In fact, signs point to the opposite being the case. If there was a real war on, they could have just sent the shitty earth jaspers off to die for the glory of the empire. Instead, they had to find someplace to put them to use.

Because becaus eof their nature, its not in them to question why they should make more troops and take more colonies. The answer to them is simply 'because'. Its their purpose of being.

>>51120008
>This is also more or less why Korra went to shit
Honestly korra went to shit when the anti-bender guy ended up being a bender.

Korra was always a weird fan-fiction esque story IMO though. 'It's like avatar but with Steampunk Aesthetic guys!' just sorta killed it. The characters are pretty good, but the story was just awful

Had hot waifus though, which was nice.

>>51120369
Ah, so they're kinda like the Zoruboggen from Xenoblade X. They are a race that is beyond doubt artificial and unnatural in nature, but they either abandoned or rebelled against their creators/precursors, and just do nothing else than what they were programmed as a race to do, and still do

I would like to note, though, that from Bismuth's dialogue that they do have colosseums and at least some kind of arena-culture, so maybe that explains all the soldier gems, they exist for Blood Sports for the Gem Elite

>>51120255
>why do they need so many soldiers?
The Gem rebellion for the most part makes that a useful thing to have a lot of- remember the Earth factories were apparently a lot more slip-shod and run poorly, mostly because of a need to make more anti-crystal gem soldiers while they were fighting. Also by the way gems we've seen in space act rebellion is nigh unheard of before Rose(they even refer to Rose's rebellion as the start of a new era)

They also probably fought between themselves now and again, or before they grouped together into an empire. Maybe tradition?

I also don't think they were entirely uncontested, just not contested in a 'large space empire' sort of way.

I agree with >>51120369 that it might just be a basis of function-which would explain why jaspers and amethysts get such shit from other gems- they're not good for anything and kind of dumb.

Personal opinion: The Diamonds are vain and pompous and are supposed to be rulers, and rulers have soldiers to enforce their will.

>>51111911
Turns out /co/mblr left their containment board to shitpost

>>51112359
>Evil empire of shapeshifting lesbians with caste system organized by gem type
FTFY

>>51120604
>thread about SU must by sjw
>turns out thread is mostly a/pol/ogists

>>51112664
>They're a neat alien race if you read Houseki no Kuni instead where the genderless gem aliens are actually alien acting and genderless
FTFY

>>51113002
>very original
>literally a ripoff of a Japanese comic
Nice try, fag

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Wait a minute, THATS IT!
Gems are Cybertronians, except more fascist and without the collectable action figure potential

>>51120705
>>51120662
>Houseki no Kuni
Literally what? Never even blood heard of it, and I very much doubt that the people making SU have either

>>51115881
>It's been voted on multiple occasions to be the single most toxic fandom known today.
I laugh at your nomination and submit my own nomination for worst/toxic fandoms ever: Small Pastel Horses fandom and Sonic fandom.
Just because /sug/ is current doesn't mean it's the most toxic. The newer ones always seem more toxic, but believe me, /sug/ doesn't even reach Small Pastel Horses level of wankery and salt.

>>51120712
Cyber-Gem War when?

>>51120478

I presumed that Era 2 is defined less by the rebellion and more be the death of Pink Diamond, which would have required a massive restructuring of the internal power structure of the empire to compensate for 1/4th of the gems now being leaderless.

It certainly explains why Yellow is so important now. Pink died and Blue turned into a dark souls NPC, so Yellow is essentially running everything now. Hopefully White, at least, has her shit together too. Otherwise yellow is the only one keeping things running.

>>51113166
>what I'd we ripped off KOTOR 2
Lel

>>51120784
>Small Pastel Horses fandom and Sonic fandom.
Neither of these random bullied a kid into attempting suicide and then were proud of the fact.

Full of autistic manchildren way too invested in something marketed at children? Sure, but so is 40K.

>>51120712

/co/ has realized this too, yes.

>>51120884

The conclusion was that the gems actually probably have the upper hand in the war until plot saves the cybertronians with something stupid. The gems have a lot of innate advantages that make them able to ambush the transformers and strike hard, inflicting a lot of damage in a short time without suffering much int he way of permanent losses themselves. A gem, especially a fusion (which would be the best form to fight a cyber), is more likely to poof than instantly die from a cybertronian attack simply because their guns are TOO BIG to have the pinpoint precision required to reliably hit gems dead-on. So most battlefield injury isn't permanent to them, AND they can be quickly and easily bubbled and teleported home to regenerate in safety.

The transformers, on the other hand, need physical materials and repair facilities to get healed up. In anything other than a one sided victory, they are likely to come out worse for it even if they win. The gems simply have a massive logistical advantage.

Of course, the cybertronians have a history of pulling out (often previously unmentioned) bullshit plot altering ancient artifacts to solve all of their problems whenever their back is against a wall. So odds are good that they will get smashed to pieces by the gems for most of the war, and then find a button labled 'An then you win' and press it for the victory confetti.

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>>51120884
Frankly I'd be more interested in seeing them go up against the Burning Legion.

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>>51120369
>>51120478
Space Ottomans?

>>51120263
I wonder if they have footships with legships, to go along with the handships with armships.

Maybe they have individual fingerships as something like corvettes, or heavy assault craft?

Where do the Nephrite transports come from?

>>51112306

They're AESTHETIC spess Indians made of hard light that need to destroy planets to reproduce.

Homeworld did nothing wrong
There is literally nothing wrong with imperialism
Glory to the lesbian rock vons

>>51121125
Gems also have their own brand of bullshit artifact technology though. The kind that is practically the same as magic.

The light cannons that they use early in the series are probably about as good as any energon-powered energy guns, and we found that they couldn't do a damn thing to that big ol' hand ship.

And then also, Bismuths seem to be able to forge structures and weapons in practically no time at all.

If anything, it seems that the major disadvantage that Gems have is that most of them are too small on the battlefield without fusing. The ones that rely on melee combat instead of powers would have very limited effect.

>>51112463
>create state-of-the-art self-aware super weapons to take out other planets
>their extremely advanced artificial intelligence is buggy as all hell
This actually seems quite realistic, remember when the us government tried to set up a website to help people get health insurance?

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>>51111911
Everyone knows the Tyranids left their home galaxy to escape from orks, ya gitz.

>>51121336
I wonder if we'll see more metals, or at least more post-transition metals.

>Bismuth is a post transition metal
>Bismuth in the show is an exceedingly masculine looking character, despite being female
Holy shit.

>>51111911
...Are you indirectly inferring that Steven is the (G)Emperor?

I will make you suffer in ways that will make the Dark Eldar look pleasant.

>>51121336

Until they fuse. Even just 3 or 4 gems can get big enough to fight a cybertonian on equal footing, and if you can manage more than that you can wade through transformers. The fusion that fought the sea monster in the past was HUGE. The same size as the temple, probably.

And 'killing' that fusion just de-fuses it, so the individual gems can either run away or fall back and fuse again for round two.

Meanwhile, battle damage done to the cybertonian in that fight is real. A lost arm stays lost, it doesn't grow back just because you gave them two minutes to catch their breath.

>>51121356
>>create state-of-the-art self-aware super weapons to take out other planets
>>their extremely advanced artificial intelligence is buggy as all hell

If you hadn't said "extremely advanced," I'd have thought you were talking about Orks for a second.

All of this has happened before. All of this will happen again.

>>51121458
>implying

>>51121356
>create state-of-the-art self-aware super weapons to take out other planets
>their extremely advanced artificial intelligence is buggy as all hell
When the M247 Sergeant York DIVAD self propelled air defense system was being tested it opened fire on nearby latrines because it thought the ventilation fans were enemy helicopters. Letting autonomous systems decide their targets is a bad idea.

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>>51114431

What if, since humans themselves would be less warlike in a timeline where they had the pinks to sort them out, the "tanks" are actually using reverse-engineered gem technology in order to make them semi-sentient combat drones? A human soldier can't really match up to a ruby who was literally designed for her job, but a tank drone that was also designed for its job could.

What's it like to be Greg?

>get to smash some thicc alien puss
>have to spend the rest of your natural life putting up with her neurotic ex-girlfriends

Do you think he regrets it whenever he hears Pearl's grating voice?

>>51121654
He's just waiting for the day that the murdercock can once again be unleashed.
He is Earth's greatest weapon against gemkind.

>>51116527
>I think a lot of the core messages, the freedom of speech and thought angles, wanting to keep the west from collapsing through various idiot policies, anti-oligarchic rhetoric, and culture, racial, and national pride, are essentially benign and positive things
Except these are the same people who are against speech and thought that they don't like. They don't have a monopoly on deciding what counts as an "idiot policy", aren't really against oligarchies when their preferred group is the one in charge, and...

>culture, racial, and national pride, are essentially benign and positive things
They certainly can be, but they can also be very negative things as well. When someone takes love of one of those to the point where they hate everything that isn't the same, then that's not good for anyone.

>>51121518
Cybertronians have members the size of entire cities, anon.

>>51121836
Yeah, but in what scenario do they go off-planet?

>>51121688
>The same group of people
Don't treat it like a monolith. There are people who want differing opinions silenced, but just as many who simply want to be allowed to voice their opinions without being shouted down and insulted. Moreover, the former is no different than the people in charge of their opposition groups, the SJW and the like, who wish to silence any speech they disagree with.

Your point about oligarchy is wrong, though. They're generally populist. Remember that oligarchy is the control of an upper class over the people. Considering how much they hate on 'da jews' in general for supposedly being in control, to support an oligarchy would be counterintuitive. About the only pro-oligarchy positions you generally see are protectionist ones in regards to the personal wealth of the rich. That's just the typical American Dream think that since everyone can supposedly become rich, that the super rich lifestyle is sacrosanct and can't be interfered with.

There's hate, and there's the desire for preservation. The issue with people is that they automatically think wanting to preserve a culture, race, or nation is inherently hateful and prejudiced. This effectively shoves those who wish to do so to the sideline with those who actually are, and radicalizes them, or else makes them have to play along. That eventually comes to bite you in the ass once you've marginalized enough people who believed in these concepts.

>>51121937
Think Metroplex is on Earth sometimes.

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>>51111911
This pic makes me wonder how one of those weird gem hand-ship things would fair against an Imperial warship?

I'm just gonna guess "not well".

>>51121979
Fair enough.

At best, we've seen Gem Fusions that can hang out around Godzilla-tier, if you merge enough different ones together (which tends to be prone to a breakdown in teamwork and de-fuses the fusion).

The Cluster never came to fruition, but that was an attempt on an experimental geo-weapon that would have been big enough to bust the Earth apart from the inside when it formed.

Given that Gem Fusion between different kinds is generally some kind of taboo, there's no telling where the limits lie. I imagine that given how large the Diamonds are, they would be pretty damn gigantic while fused.

>>51121654
>What's it like to be Greg?
Well he was an out of work musician who got a Thicc giant woman from space, which was literally his 80s glam metal dream.

Then he gets a son that's weird but has magic powers.

The gems don't really care about him anyway except for Steven, and pearl didn't talk to him for years either.

And then 14 years later his old manager comes backa nd gives him millions of dollars.

I think Greg's pretty happy.

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>>51111911
Tyranids
>venture to other galaxies
>consume biomass until galaxy is barren
>make more of themselves

Gems
>travel to other galaxies
>consume life/souls(?) until galaxy is bareen
>make more of themselves

They're the same fucking thing. They'd be competing for territory more than anything else.

>>51122067
>>consume life/souls(?) until galaxy is bareen
They don't consume biomatter at all. They make themselves out of rocks.

>>51122060
>>51121654
Are you guys forgetting about how Amethyst had/probably stil has that whole weird crush/replacement Rose relationship with Greg? I'ld say that goes a bit beyond mere tolerance of Greg.

>>51122131

Diamonds are made of carbon tho

HI TOMMY

>>51122131

Something about the way Kindergardens, where they make gems, work literally sucks the energy of the planet so organic life can't grow in those areas. Not to mention the injectors literally look like viruses.

>>51122184
Sup faggot.

>>51111911
Do we need a thread about SU every day? Is tumblr triggering you so hard that everything they suposedly like needs a fucking discussion on every board on 4chan?

>>51122189
>Something about the way Kindergardens, where they make gems, work literally sucks the energy of the planet so organic life can't grow in those areas.
They suck out the essential minerals from the ground in those places, most likely starting with all the free-floating soil cations and anions, before moving on to the embededrock layers afterwards, leaving behind nothing but derelict rocky/sandy craters and carved out canyons

This probably includes most all of the mandatory macronutrients and micronutrients needed to sustain life, such as Nitrogen, Copper, Calcium, Phosphorous, Manganese, Magnesium, Iron, leaving most of the area as bare silicate stone with only a few trace elements left

Thank you Mandatory Soils Science courses

>>51121997

Im thinking slaanesh would make one of the hand ships its bitch to give a chaos space ship a hand job.

>>51113416
They're The Thing as an alien species. A simple concept.

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>>51122289
Huh. Thanks for that. Genuinely curious, that would still leave carbon based life screwed, right?

>>51122533
Consider how many of those minerals are key components of the life forms that currently exist on this planet.
I mean, goodness gracious, just think of how much iron and calcium go into pretty much every animal.

And all of the nutrients that plants need, which we in turn need. Our whole ecosystem wouldn't function as is if the various minerals in the earth were all sucked up. I'm not sure what ecosystem WOULD function.

>>51122533
>Genuinely curious, that would still leave carbon based life screwed, right?
Yes considering that all those nutrients, ESPECIALLY Nitrogen and Phospherous (which are essential componants of DNA, are all mandatory for carbon life of greater complexity that bacteria (and some protists) to exist.

Granted this is a gross oversimplification as well, but suffice to say without those essential nutrients it would be impossible for basic autotrophic carbon based life to exist, meaning no plants or similar organisms, meaning that without the main producer trophic layer, all the other layers of organic life will not exist either, with potentially the only lifeforms capable of surviving being extremophilic archaeabacteria.

This isn't just an ecosystem crash, its the complete loss of any kind og ecosystem from being able to exist.

And that's nothing to say of the effects it would have on local climate either, considering how ecosystems do impact local climate.

So yes, Gem style leaching of mineral nutrients in that way would basically leave a place essentially sterile.

Honestly, if you want to know more details, I do highly reccomend taking a Soil Geology, Soil Ecology/biology, or Agronomy course at some point, because soil nutrient understanding is more dead serious than you realize.

There's a reason why any group of NASA scientists usually includes a Soil Scientist with them. "The Martian" is a lot closer to reality than you realize

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Well... I didn't expect to find this here.

>>51115135
I mainly lurk. /tg/ isn't weird enough for me anymore.

>>51114931
You're right. It was written for /pol/, so I wanted to write it using language they'd understand. I normally wouldn't be so inflammatory. If I edit or expand upon it, I'd definitely lighten up the tone.

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>>51122764
>/tg/ isn't weird enough for me anymore

>>51122886
Well, you can't get much weirder than a bunch of autistic, spiteful armchair Waffen SS, so /pol/ is a step up in weirdness I guess.

>>51122983
Excuse me, but I am but a humble global imperialist civic nationalist with a support towards eugenics.
Not all of /pol/ is kraut circlejerkers or ancap memers.

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>>51123066
>>51122886
See?

>>51117122
the thing left me angry.
look at the population, they should all be inbred.
there should be no "diversity" because the gene pool would have bred them out.
they in theory should have their own fucking culture and shit.
I don't even want to know what prefect conditions would do to humans over time

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>>51123093
I'm just a meme loving fuck.

I also enjoy conspiracy theories, contrarian edgelordry, and global news stories as told by raging autists.

We used to have this all on /tg/. It was said you didn't even need the other board anymore. Those days are long past.

>>51122048
So far, we've seen that gems of relatively small stature can become as tall as an adult human folloeing fusion. Whether this is based on power level or just their stature is still unclear. I think Opal and Malachite are the ones that are making me question if it's one or the other.

So far, Alexandrite is still the biggest one we'vd seen and she's about as tall as one of the Diamonds while being made up of 4 gems. The temple fusion, the one that they did when Rose was around, could potentially be bigger than the cliff overlooking the city if she stood up.

Given what we know about how fusion works, I am imagining some Gurren Lagann levels of HUGE if the 4 diamonds ended up fusing.

>>51123151
They're domesticated, the Gems breed them for desired traits. Presumably not all gems have the same tastes.

>>51122764
am I the only one who read the entire thing in the voice of Wizard of Cause?

>>51123160
Oversensitive types have flooded culture in general. It's a poison.

>>51123151
I considered this as well, but don't you think that the number of humans that they have is oddly small?

As much as it doesn't appear to be the case, it would make more sense if they were keeping separate groups of humans to cross-breed.

>>51123151
Look up the breeding methods used to restore animals like cougars, red elk, and stuff like that.

You'd be surprised with highly directed breeding and reproduction can do to preserve some basic genetic diversity.

Also, what culture? They are want for nothing, and have their entire lives mapped for them. They are mentally and emotionally stunted, and lack the incentive for culture building

>>51122637
so tl;dr, the gems are slightly less hostile tyrannids, in that they don't always harvest the things already living there, they just make the planet uninhabitable to organic beings

>>51123183
There's no way there's just one level to the zoo. From the size of the station, there's got to be at least half a dozen more, with equal or larger populations. In addition, the nonchalance with which Steven is tossed in seems to suggest they're used to adding new specimens.

>>51123160
Normally I'd say you're just remembering "the good old days" that never was.
BUT, as of late, I don't think /tg has been as open and funloving as it used to.
Topics that before would get pulled into every weird direction and make a great thread now gets 3-4 responses which are the equivalent of "just play D&D".

>>51123160
I'm not saying you're a Nazi, I'm saying /pol/ are Nazis.

>>51123167
>mfw Homeworld ships are built 1:1 to the size a 4-way diamond fusion would be

>>51123203
That last part certainly isn't true. Holly Blue Agate states that they hadn't been visited in thousands of years, but then their rescue mission is the second visit in a very short span that anyone has come to that station.

As much as it would definitely make sense that they're keeping more, the nonchalance with which Steven is tossed in almost seems to lend itself to the idea that there aren't entire other population groups.
However, the lack of other children or elderly stands out like a sore thumb. Perhaps there are separate groupings for humans that are too young to fend for themselves, and for humans who have already done the "choosening."

>>51123167
>>51123253
>the reason gems expand so much is because they're actually preparing to create a new diamond
>the worlds chosen to create a diamond are stripped bare almost entirely for that purpose, such is the perfection needed
>White Diamond is the oldest, and the original
>Yellow Diamond and Blue Diamond were the next additions, having been created several thousand years ago
>Pink Diamond was the youngest, and Earth was her first conquest

>>51122172
I am still kind of disgusted with the fact that she honestly thought that cleaning his storage unit would make up for the fact that she pretty much psychologically tortured him by turning into his dead wife and then having the gall and asking him to turn around in that mocking little tone of hers.

The fact that Greg said that he couldn't let her do 'that' to him again only makes her actions all the more vile. Not to mention the fact that Steven heard and saw the whole thing. Fuck Amethyst.

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>>51123210
I mean the real old shit though; like moot coming down from on high and smiting Jim Profit.

The FATAL threads that triggered normies
The FATAL threads where grognards actually sat down to do character optimization

The thread where we figured out the DC for a rogue to escape artist up his own butthole.

And then the DC to do it without him noticing.

The Wasteland Warrior threads. 2D's stuff, the rap battles. When I actually had a DND group and told stories .

I miss all that stuff... but perhaps it's better left to the fondness of memory than to force things anew. It's all archived anyway, I guess.

Nowadays, I tend to enjoy the simple things; such as watching neon-haired freaks sperg out on nazi larpers. We all gotta grow up sometime, I guess.

>>51123169
from what i remember the gems only cared about compliance.
it was only blue diamond who would visit and it was an out of the way depository for pink Ds shit.
>>51123183

>>51123199
Sounds cool but i would be supprised given how small the population group is it that it would be effective.
Up untill the mate selection thing i was thinking they were producing humans with human genetic material and artifical wombs.
even then i expect negligence and ineptitude with the gem crew there would.
>what culture?
i expected some logans run shit going on, some people might have a complusion towards violence, creation that the gems couldn't have planned for
point being i was disappointed with the domestication angle.

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>>51123303
ALSO SIEGE YOU TREMENDOUS DILDO, YOU NEVER FUCKING FINISHED THIS ARTWORK. I STILL FUCKING REMEMBER.

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>>51113354

>>51123354
Greg is the best character in the show, followed shortly by Andy and Yellow Diamond.

>>51123307
>Sounds cool but i would be supprised given how small the population group is it that it would be effective
People have been able to do the same thing with Songbirds and maintain genetic diversity with only 3 females and one male

It's not super optimal, but with very dedicated effort and HIGHLY directed breeding, it can be possible.

Plus humans are fecund enough and have a long enough lifespan that you could get away with some shenanigans once morals are stripped away, especially considering our ow reproductive capability isn't too different from most cervines.

And considering the Gems had literally Thousands if years to get this straight, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they had massive computational matrices and have the whole genome and potential genome of their human pets plotted out perfectly.

Trust me, domestic/livestock genetics becomes a lot quieter and more flexible when you can reliably manage for the long term

>>51123370
truth. though I'm partial to peridot for reasons

>>51123370
>followed shortly by Andy and Yellow Diamond.
>and Yellow Diamond.

My nigga.

>>51117122
I got vibes resembling a classic star trek episode "The Apple" AKA Spock's Bad day

>>51120712
their society quite resembles functionalist cybertron from the IDW comics

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>>51123396
>>51123370
clods

>>51121155
heh, I wance jokingly compared them tot he Protoss, with homeworld as the Conclave, The Nerazime as the Rebels, With Steven as Tassadar... or maybe Artanis

>>51113354
>>51123354
>>51123370
I really like Andy. The show could easily turned him into a Strawman, but they didn't. Instead they were respectful, made him feel like an actual person, and actually made him justified in his response to the whole situation given what little he knew of the whole thing, while also still emphasising his good traits such as his loyalty to the concept of family and wanting to be a good uncle when he learned about Steven, and even trying to be sympathetic when he learned that Rose was dead.

Seriously, this might be personal bias since I've known personally people like him, even in my own family, but to me Andy feels like on of the most human characters, and one who is treated as such.

If anything, it was Greg who was the one getting roasted hard in the episode due to his irresponsible lifestyle during g his younger days

>>51121518
>>51122048
>>51123167
for context on humanoid sized fusions and how much you could stack, I present these fuckers http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ammonite Omnicombinational minicons

>>51123167
What if white diamond is a fusion of the two?

>>51123494
All of the Diamonds are counted as separate entities in logos/images of their collective authority, and fusion between different gems is absolutely taboo in their culture.

>>51123456
He's the human we need, but not the one we deserve right now

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>>51123443
I can see it.

Really, the reason I want to see them go up against the Burning Legion is to see which respawning army falls to attrition first.

Multi-Quartz fusions taking on Pit Lords in single combat, armies of Rubies and Imps slicing away at each other, individual Quartzes being warped in to take on growing swarms of Felguard and Wrathguard - and the fallen simply returning a week or so later to do the same thing all over again.

In my opinion, the Legion takes it if Archimonde or Kil'jaeden arrives in person - especially Archimonde. However, this is only because we just don't know how powerful Yellow Diamond (his most likely 1v1 opponent) is yet.

Homeworld might win out if the Legion underestimates them too much (which they /are/ prone to), but then Homeworld doesn't have Player Characters to murderhobo their way through it all.

And of course, I am not an expert.

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This cartoon should have come before. I think we'd have a lot more fun with it here on /tg.

>>51123536
Could be why it's taboo, to keep the secrets of fusion to themselves.

>>51123625
and it's an absolute threat to the entire hierarchy.
Can you imagine a PEASANT and an ENGINEER fusing and becoming stronger than a NOBLE?
Or fusing with a noble and then everyone gets new IDEAS, like maybe they are not so different after all?
DISGUSTING!

>>51123625
But then why would they so prominently display an entity that doesn't exist the majority of the time in their society? It would raise too many questions and out itself.

>>51111911

>tyranids
>home galaxy being relevant

pick one OP

>>51123663
Yet they haven't even mentioned anything about White Diamond.

>>51111911
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/106084968/#106110694

>Link to the thread

>>51123736
We barely know anything about the Diamonds that we DO know anything about.

>>51113286
I don't cry autism often, but you come off as a bit autistic.>>51113220
Same with you.

>>51123609
Wow this picture really highlights how utterly awful most of the gems proportions are.

They unintentionally look like rejected Mozgus disciple candidates.

>>51123778
Yeah it's not something I'm proud of but I need some place to vent my dumb ideas.

I'm the second anon by the way.

>>51123763
>>51123303
>>51123160
>>51113086
>>51113002

>>51123787
It's a cartoon, man

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>>51123802
I'm cool with that so long as you realize this is you, complaining about the magic rib cage xylophone.

>>51123845
Well that's not me in public so I don't really care, on this website everyone is some kind of freak.

>>51123382
>>51123396
>>51123427
Peridot is fourth best.

Amethyst, Smoky Quartz, and Sugilite are all equally bottom tier.

>>51123843
One designed by people with an obsession with ugliness it would seem.

>>51121997
Peridot's hand ship probably wouldn't do well, but Blue Diamond's arm-ship or similar are mountain-sized and likely pack firepower to match. They're also way, way faster than 40k ships, as they're able to go FTL whenever they feel like, including inside atmosphere.

Humans are actually the creators of the gems, current humanity on Earth being the long regressed descendants of their forefathers
This is why the gems are humanoid, why the Diamonds almost look perfectly human, and why YD is so eager to destroy Earth; she wants to remove the last trace of the gem's origins

>>51123778
>knowing lore makes you autistic

You picked the wrong board tonight, pal.

>>51123883
There's at least an explanation in that the gems aren't actually that good at mimicking the human form and instead create deformed abominations.

>>51124076
Fair, though still out of universe I feel it's mostly a result of the character designers perusing unique silhouettes to the point where it became a detriment of the characters appeal.

>>51112306
Tenchi Muyo/ Outlaw Star rip-off with extra SJW pandering thrown in just to piss you off.

>>51124174
>Tenchi Muyo
>Outlaw Star

I don't see the similarities.

>>51124194
The whole "Space Harem" trope didn't connect with you after watching this?

>>51124218
The gems are feminine but are literally rocks projecting light, and the main character is a very young teenager.

So, no. No, it didn't. There's one human girl his age that he actually hangs out with, and everyone else is like, his mom's several-millenia-old friends who act like his surrogate mothers or older siblings.

>>51113086
>that whole paragraph about the human zoo

Piqued my interest enough to actually look up the scene and that's not how it went down at all. It was never considered a game, it's a very blatant forced matchmaking. They didn't forget anything about their paradise, they just got turned down for the first time. The Amazonian gems were consoling them in the way a friend with a shoulder to cry on does, not as some blue pill popping dictator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBfUqCdBvcY

I wonder just how much more exaggeration is going on in the rest of these posts just so people will fall for watching this shit show.

Nah man the nids were running away from this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vseNL9qe7sk

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>>51123303
>Jim Profit.

Oh god it's all coming back

The Jim Profit drama

The FlareFag saga

The furfags hijacking the unified setting

The rape factory and the discussions of the rape based economy

The maths to figure out how many spiders a drow vagina can hold

Quantifying exactly how bad Hitler was so as to get accurate assessments on "worse than Hitler".

The cutebold invasion

Serglefag

>>51123303
holy shit, STORYTIEM, you are still alive?

>>51113002
>>51113086
>I'm constantly surprised that the people I call SJWs enjoy this show, even though a lot of reasonable elements in it run counter to the unreasonable beliefs I assume those people have.
>Could my definition of SW be a straw-(wo)man? No, impossible! They must just all be idiots who can't understand a children's cartoon.

>>51125350
Yeah except the Tumblr part of the fandom really is ideologically crazy, the bullying a person to attempt suicide for depicting a fat character slightly slimmer than usual was already mentioned and so was the sending crew members death threats for denouncing the former, but to bring up something more closely tied to ideology there were a lot of people who were angry that Bismouth was depicted as being wrong for advocating genocide and thought that it was a perfectly reasonable response to oppression.

>>51116926
>filename
Agate is a type of quartz reeeee.

>>51125379
>tumblr

Well there's your problem.

>>51125434
And guess who the majority of the online fanbase is?

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>>51111911

>Turns out the Tyranids left their home galaxy to escape Doomguy

>>51125452
Nah Doomguy is just some really pissed of Storm Trooper stuck in the warp.
Kaldor Draigo likes to take the credit for what he does.

>>51123303

>jim fucking profit

Every time I forget, someone reminds me.

...were you jim profit, STORYTIEM?

Was that your dark, horrifying secret?

Also your analysis of the people who watch SU is weird; it's been blatantly obvious that the homeworld gems are the villains pretty much since the first time they're mentioned, to anyone watching, and it's been slowly revealed over the course of the series that maybe Garnet and her rebellion wasn't all sunshine and unicorns either. This isn't some... subtle things the fans gloss over, it's just a plot point of the show.

>>51123227
But im not a nazi. I just think that the "white guilt" inducing culture furthers racial divide, and that Islam is a religión that hasnt adapted to the times, leaving it dangerously recessive , and easy to abuse for indoctrination and terrorism.

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>>51125031
I never left, anon. I'm cursed time be here forever.

>>51124269
I'm calling it a "game" in the sense that it was an agreed-upon set of rules by all the participants (if you're familiar with Jordan Peterson, he often refers to such social constructs as "games" in this manner). They were certainly treating it like a game within the show; it was just another activity in which the humans (gleefully) surrendered their free will. You can call it what you like; Greg's refusal to participate and his rejection of their custom is the point of the entire analogy, because it showed just how emotionally fragile the zoo residents were. Pain and rejection are necessary experiences for human growth, and even this was denied, due to the amethysts' overbearing intervention.

>>51125350
Yes, on paper it seems ridiculous, but these people really are that entrenched in their own ideology. They always seek to subvert and control every niche subject and medium into which they can sink their claws, and they will bully anyone who holds different opinions. They do this in the name of some higher minded moral purpose, but as I've attempted to explain through analyzing the subject material in this case, they only have an extremely basic understanding of their own interests, and only seek to stroke their own ego by controlling others. In this way, they demonstrate that they have no understanding of anything beyond a surface-level; a show like Steven Universe appears to check off several boxes of their politically correct agenda, but they give it literally no thought beyond that. Furthermore, in order to protect their all-important ideology, they'll overlook anything that runs counterintuitive to their beliefs, or aggressively make excuses to defend their sacred cows.

They will ignore any past friendship or good will you've ever had, and gladly throw you under a bus if it suits their ideological purpose. They only respect diversity of identity, not diversity of thought.

>>51125863
me too man. I will never leave this place, even if it's now a little shittier than before

I hate Tumblr

>>51125741
I know you're not me, but are you my brother from another mother?

>>51123872
I love how all of the gems on shit tier all involve Amethyst with the exception of Opal.

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>>51124019
B-but...muh snake people...

>>51125471
Remember that he is writing this and explaining it in a way that the most autistic and socially retarded members of this site will be able to understand and take away something from it.

/pol/ isnt the nost receptive of new ideas you know, and sometimes you have to be thorough when speaking to them.

>>51115881
Anon, every fandom EVER has been voted the worst fandom at it's peak
I'm pretty sure that this title even belonged to the homestuck fandom before the small horses & lesbian rocks gained more online presence

>>51125863
>Yes, on paper it seems ridiculous, but these people really are that entrenched in their own ideology. They always seek to subvert and control every niche subject and medium into which they can sink their claws, and they will bully anyone who holds different opinions. They do this in the name of some higher minded moral purpose, but as I've attempted to explain through analyzing the subject material in this case, they only have an extremely basic understanding of their own interests, and only seek to stroke their own ego by controlling others.

Sounds eerily like another internet subculture I know...

>>51125741
>But im not a nazi. I just think that the "white guilt" inducing culture furthers racial divide, and that Islam is a religión that hasnt adapted to the times, leaving it dangerously recessive , and easy to abuse for indoctrination and terrorism.

Any real leftist would agree with both of those points. A divided working class will always be easy pickings for the rich, after all, and Marxism is nothing if not critical of regressive religion and its use in keeping the common man subdued.

>>51126724
>Anon, every fandom EVER has been voted the worst fandom at it's peak
Except very few send death threats to creators and bully a teenage girl for weeks until she attempts suicide. .

>>51121961

Isn't wanting to voice your opinions and not be insulted silencing differing opinions?

It is not silencing all differing opinions I'll give you that. But it is wanting to silence the insulting ones.

>>51122637

Maybe Steven is an experiment by Rose to find a new way to produce gems. This new method would be less destructive.

>>51126958
>Real leftists
Is this like "Real communism"?

>>51126958

Marx wasn't really critical of religion. He saw it as a coping mechanism and thought it would disappear if they were exploited anymore.

>>51127317
nah, just people who actually read Marx

>>51127009
There's this, and the fact that Steven Universe is a perfect storm of the following attributes:

1. Normie friendly in a way that ponies will never be
2. Show concept is tailor made for people to inject their own autistic original characters.
3. Catchy music, good lore, lots of heart, memetic content.
4. LGBTQIAP friendly themes for shallow people who need representation in fiction because they have no personalities of their own.

I'm going to call it a perfect storm of cringy fandom again because nothing else describes it so aptly.

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>>51127350
>>51127317
>never been tried.png.wav.fem.inp.dat.exe

>>51125863
>Furthermore, in order to protect their all-important ideology, they'll overlook anything that runs counterintuitive to their beliefs, or aggressively make excuses to defend their sacred cows
Why are you talking about /pol/?

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>>51127395
This guy gets it.

>>51126958
>A divided working class will always be easy pickings for the rich, after all
>any real leftist.
anon the whole left wing has been eaten by neocons and neo-post marxists who shacked up with the corporatists.

>>51127395
>HURR HURR HURR THE RIGHT DOES THE SAME THINGS AS THE LEFT
Not that I don't disagree with you, but holding up horseshoe theory like some grand and insightful truth just makes you look like a smarmy, pretentious centrist.

>>51127394
>>51127565
How many Deans do you have?

>>51127784
likely as many as there are frames in the movie

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I'm surprised that none of you figured out that they're both running from the new God of Chaos.

>>51127851
probably more

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I don't like gems...but PD a cute.CUTE!

>>51122398
The Thing is already an alien species.

SU is Transformers but for teenage girls instead of teenage boys, and meme's instead of Hasbro's plastic toy shilling

Prove me wrong - you can't, because it's absolutely true.

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>>51112690
>pearls are lowest of the low servants
Pearls are butlers/purse dogs. They are the servents of nobility and would look down on any lowly worker caste

>>51125350
>I assume
The kinds of people that get labeled SJW for ranting about gender politics and hating whites or men are sadly real.

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>>51127009
well, speaking as someone who shitposts on /mulp/ from time to time, it appears that there was some major drama this year tied somehow to child labor in the little horse fandom
I don't know the specifics but it was kind of a big deal
Plus there's been quite a few issues with irl pedophiles over the course of the years, so I wouldn't call SU the worst (of course, it'll probably get worse over the years)

>>51113086
>Identities don't matter when dealing with monsters, only actions do
That's quite an interesting conclusion, but wouldn't Peridot becoming tolerant or the three lesbian mothers caring for a lesser human being (in their very flawed ways) show that actions and identity are in fact related, or better yet, that identity is manifested and formed through actions?

I guess I'm not sure what stance this /pol/ack is attributing to sjws, maybe that identity is a perceived ideal that overwrites actions, like a chimpout is OK if the protester is black. But a true Identity = actions&ideas means live by the sword, die by the sword.

I can't say if it's a great analysis because I only came here for shitposting but it really does give my intellectual faculty a complex multi-layered situation to process. /pol/ can be quite insightful I guess.

>>51127092
No, because unless you're being a pedant on purpose, my post comes with the implication of overreaction. These people who do shouldn't be silenced, but they shouldn't be given the power they currently hold in our culture.

>>51123334
Holy hell, now that's old. And about as cold and dead as moots dreams at this point.

>>51128927

The point is that it doesn't matter what your identity as a SJW-type would define it, but your actions. A SJW type would see somebody as a lesbian and that's what would matter about that person while completing ignoring all their actions or attitudes. Like, they'd ignore the fact that Garnet keeping secrets from Steven actual hurts Steven because Garnet is a lesbian (or is she a Lesbians?) while ignoring Greg being a good dad to Steven, and actually the source of many of Steven's admirably qualities because he'a a white fucking male. Or they'll attribute the times Garnet has done the right thing for Steven because she's a Lesbians while blaming the fact that Greg tricked Steven about his Broken leg because he's a white male rather than looking at the fact Greg made a mistake because he missed living with his son.

Atleast, that's how it reads to me.

>>51127784
Many

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>>51129249
That is precisely the point, you have completely understood it.

I will give you my rarest dean

>>51129669
>>51129249
Sorry to multi-post like a sperging, but I think this point also deserves some background.

When I wrote that Steven Universe thing, I was coming down off a Facebook debate with some SJW types about the merits of political correctness. My arguments against political correctness were as follows:

1. I defined political correctness as the social methodology by which the concepts of personal identity (intractable aspects of being) and personal beliefs are indistinguishable. Therefore, to criticize an idea you hold, I also would be criticising you, as a person. Political correctness therefore gives your ideas a means to exist beyond polite criticism.
2. By making no distinction between identity and belief, you not only equaternary beliefs with an intractable state of being, but you also equate being with the mutable aspects of belief. Now I can say I'm a demi hemi semi multisouled burgerkin, Ronald McDonald representing; and you have to take me at my word or else, a priori, you're a bigot.
3. The ability to arbitrate a discussion based on offense is toxic to the concept of discussion itself.
4. By choosing what subjects are socially kosher, and which ones are not to be discussed, you give power to the views you hate. If truth is on your side, you should fear no argument.
5. Censorship of any kind has never increased civic liberties. No despot or dictator ever gained power without weaponizing public good intention.

I made more points, but I digress, their arguments consisted of literally:

1. My beliefs are my identity
2. You're a privileged >fucking white male.
3. You're mansplaining.

The point is, that these people see absolutely no distinction between who they are and what they believe. I do not make arguments attacking people for who they are, because that is difficult to change. Beliefs, however, have qualitative truth, and should be substituted for better ideas as you grow.

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>>51130035
I hate the term mansplaining. It's not a term at all, it's them misusing the word condescending and attaching male gender words to it so that it's somehow a pejorative. Do these folks not know basic English? It's maddening.

>>51116631
I wouldn't be surprised if gays and lesbians were just more likely to have repressed problems and anxiety and shit because of how not okay it is to be openly gay in a lot of places. Might bleed down to the kid. I call for 100 years worth of case studies to examine the trend lines as gay becomes more or less acceptable.

>>51128672
>it appears that there was some major drama this year tied somehow to child labor in the little horse fandom
Wait what? You take a brake for a few months and shit happens.

>>51114820
you did at least spend a few months lurking before posting, right?

>>51130138
>it's them misusing the word condescending
You mean "explaining." Manspalining is a perjorative about a man attempting to justify whatever he's doing.

>>51130035
Congrats STORYTIEM you have made this one of the best SU threads I've ever sern, and I say that as someone who loves the show and talking shop about it.

>>51123160
How do go back to that place, STORYTIEM?
Teach us your wisdom.

>>51130486
Or explain anything to a woman apparently.

>>51130035
>Therefore, to criticize an idea you hold, I also would be criticising you, as a person.
This problem have many people regardless of political standpoint. I had this with left and right, pro and anti nuclear. Everytime someone is so narrowminded as to to think his view is the answer to every problem you are an easy target as an enemy if you say something against that holded believe, because in an ideology the singular believe is a part of the entire worldview and if that is wrong then the entire view would be.
At least this is the experience I made and you better not disagree with me OR ELSE!

>>51130560
Too bad the group he's talking about is strong enough to force their views on the public currently.

>>51130486
Last I heard it was about the way they explained things, not the explanation itself. Maybe I'm wrong/

>>51130520
I second this anon. I may be a newfag that arrived in 2015, but I want to see this golden age of /tg/ to come back.

>>51130616
More or less. If the way the man explains something is not of sufficient quality to a woman, it's "mansplaining." Fucking Wonder Woman has a small sequence about it where he has a guy tied up with her magic lasso, and the guy starts ranting about shit. The other women ask Wonder Woman to stop him, and she remarks, "The magic lasso only forces a person to tell the truth. It doesn't stop mansplaining."

>>51115458
>/pol/ is one person

It's actually a pretty diverse place. The lack of filters and diverse spectrum including extremes tends to scare off people who are used to a politically sanitized, self-censored environment. The neonazi stuff is, for most people, just memes and board culture, but it hides a deeper truth (no taboo-induced rejection of traditionalism, discussion of alternatives to postmodernist views of society and culture).

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>>51122184
>>51122191
You're both lesbians

>>51130649
Ah yes, like when fem-thor met her grandpappy and we got [unsolicited opinions on israel]

>>51130657
This; on any given thread on /pol/ you can find people ranging from literal natsocs, friedman worshiping ancaps, stalinists, monarchist neo-reactionaries (and neo-reactionaries of any other flavor), normal conservatives, zealous theocrats, and anything else you could imagine.

>>51130567
Many different topics can be taken very personal and ruin relationships even by simply pointing out flaws in ones logic. I can tell you that from first hand experience

>>51121312
>spess Indians
feather or dot

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>>51125863
>They will ignore any past friendship or good will you've ever had, and gladly throw you under a bus if it suits their ideological purpose. They only respect diversity of identity, not diversity of thought.

There was this girl, I met her at a game dev con. It turned out she really liked smash brothers and we hung out/talked on and off for a year (she lived far away, so I never made any sort of move on her)

Then, we were talking one day, and I sort of made the point that just because you were Indian or black or whatever, you don't have to embrace that culture because you were born into it, and likewise if you were born outside of it, you can be adopted into it if it resonates with you. This launched a lengthy... Discussion. That ended in her screaming at me that I don't understand anything someone non-white has gone through, that I'm an awful stupid ignorant person, and her cis white girlfriend agreed with her. She then blocked me in everything and refused to respond to my texts. She was at the game dev convention in October and refused to make eye contact, left the room every time I entered it, and when I asked one of her co-workers to ask her about the issue, he just said she got upset and wouldn't say anything about it.

These people exist. I was so disappointed. They actually exist.

>>51113086
I feel like this show has a sj heart, taking in acceptance of others in a friendly way and willing to see the pros and cons of people. But it also actively goes against the warriors of social justice. Than again it is a ahow of people learning people things and how to people so really its stance of sjw or not is kind of moot.

>>51130486
I hate the word "mansplain" because women do it to me constantly.

>>51131035
These kinds of people got their hooks into Toady and are slowly ruining Dwarf Fortress. RIP.

>>51131065
Femsplain you shitlord

>>51131095
no. nonono. Please be lying to me, goddamn, please anon.

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>>51131015
Dot.

>>51131134
You should see his twitter. He spends more time hanging out with candy-haired indie dev teams than he does developing the game now.

>>51131161
Nice swastika she has going on.

>>51131163
Shitcunt motherfuckers.

>>51131163
how can he ruin it? I don't think he added anything of that type into game or will ever ruin his old vision

>>51131255
By not developing it for one. This was always going to be a project that took 30 years, but if he's busy hanging out with them it'll never get done.

And I said it was slowly ruining it. Their political beliefs made him into a hillshill during the election, and it might prevent him from adding features in the future because they might be 'offensive'. He already removed a lot of dirty words from the language files and you best bet there'll never be anything like the tentacle monster pits again.

>>51131286
I think it's dumb to do that, because you'd only do that to broaden your audience. And there's no one saying "damn, I'd really like to learn to fly the space plane that is dorf fort, but does it -really- agree with my concept of polite conversation?"