FOR MOTHER

GAS THE SQUIDS
NUKE THE WHALES
STAB THE MONKEYS
TRUST NOTHING
THE VOID IS WATCHING US

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>>48676134
Time for Diplomacy

>>48676134
IT IS TIME.

TIME FOR HIVE QUEEN QUEST.

Reminder to check the thinkers locked memories.

>>48676134

We really must tell the Commonwealth what we're doing on Gemini.

And we really must wrap these negotiations up quickly. I'm sure the Valen ambassdor on Gemini right now is desperately scrambling to get to a Q-Comm to notify the greater Valen clans of this. If he hasn't accomplished it already you'd better bet he'll redouble his efforts when he hears we're trying to get ALL the Expanse worlds including Aral where their hypergate priest currently is.

On the upside if we pull all of this off and capture their hypergate priest and then get hypergate tech the Valen will probably respect the shit out of us for our cleverness and dickery until the end of their days.

>>48676287
Not yet.

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>>48676134
HYPE
for mother

>>48676304
Why?
>>48676292
I agree on telling the commonwealth about this.

>>48676292
We could easily capture Aral planet whether they know about that or not.

>>48676287
I fully agree, now is the right time to look at it.

>>48676370
But we want to capture the planet WITH the Valen that's overseeing the hypergate construction on it rather than without him.
It would give us quite the bargaining chip to any dealings we have with the.

>>48676352
>>48676371
Because the void is likely to start their attack if we do.

>>48676134
HYYYYPE

Q&A session with Gemini citizens when?

IT'S HIVE TIME

>>48676134
oh, oh dear, are we gonna have to help with that?

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>>48676134

>>48676395
There is nothing that could possibly be in that thinker that would increase Their interest in us beyond what it already is after Tenebris. This is one of mothers thinkers here, not a void shard.

>>48676292
Fully second bringing the Commonwealth into the loop about our negotiations with the Union.

>>48676395
That doesn't make sense. It's not like the psionic canon, where we're messing with parts of them.
We could try to (non-psychically) prob for some info of what it's hiding.

>>48676395
They will probably only send ceph raids at us when we read, unless the tinker memories has information on the void gods weakness that they have to manifest on space to destroy us i don't expect them to come.

>>48676134
Are you not posting the various tech and resource posts anymore?

>>48676392
The only way he could leave so quickly is if they finished the Hypergate.

>>48676500
He could have a ship with a canderon-based FTL drive for exactly this reason.

>>48676486
This is a continuation to last weeks threads. The week after next will be the next real big thread

>>48676460
>There is nothing that could possibly be in that thinker that would increase Their interest in us

It's not about 'interest'. It's about their capabilities, which are dependent on the state of their target.

We don't know at what tier of Fucked those locked memories are. They might be at or below our current level, or they might be above. It's a gamble.

It turns out they were only ignoring us before because it believed we were not a threat, that nothing could stop them now, nothing!!!

And then we stopped the climax of their master plan that has been cooking for like a hundred years at the 11th hour.

>>48676486
Look at the thread number. it's still the same day as 4 threads ago, time has not advanced.

>>48676506
We could easily intercept those.

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>>48676134
Chaos surrounds your ambassador drone as technicians and officers swarm about the room. Admiral Yogesh stands proudly as he examines the readiness reports of the fleets placed under his command fill the display before him. Several of the monitors along the room's periphery fill with news and alerts as a low murmur begins to wash over the technicians and comm officers, until someone quickly moves to Yogesh with a data pad and a look of grave concern. He takes the data pad and looks at it a moment before going wide-eyed, and with a flick of his finger sends the images to the central holo-display.

A vast armada of hive ships floats through the sky of Gemini, casting innumerable shadows across the city as static discharge leaps from ship to ship like lighting, your Hive ship's shadow blocking out what little sunlight there is in the evening twilight as the city is cast in shadow. Klaxons blare and screams echo through the streets over the sounds of distant sirens and the shouted orders of PDF troopers. The camera jitters with static, flickering as nearby advertisement holograms stutter and die, shattering into floating motes of static as their speakers begin to chitter and murmur with a choir of inhuman voices.

Admiral Yogesh eyes your drone carefully without tilting his head as your speaker watches the display with veiled amusement, and then turns back to the officer.

"When was this?"

"A few hours ago, roughly. The spacetime difference on Gemini is-" Yogesh waves a hand in dismissal as he cuts off the officer.

"Does Magnus know?"

cont.

I am very sorry for missing last week's regular thread, but I was quite ill at the time. Very sorry. As for this week, due to scheduling issues I'll be unable to run for very long, and will need to miss next week. Because of this, I figured it would be best to just run a .5 tonight, and save the big 60 for the next full thread which should be on the 21st.

>>48676532
Seems like the Commonwealth already knows.

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>>48676532
...How did they get this footage off of Gemini with the quantum comm shutdown?

>>48676583
spies

>>48676583
They only closed off UNION Q-Comms. There is bound to be COmmonwealth spies with their own illegal q-comms

You idiot

>>48676532
not a problem QD, its not like we're paying you to do this

>>48676532
Hope you get better soon

Kill a goat to gain blessings from the gods

>>48676532
Breaking my heart here QD but that's fair. Hope your health rebounds.

>>48676532
Just do your best to stay healthy and well-rested.
please don't go on a hiatus again. I'm not sure I could handle the withdrawal from the drug that is HQQ without you again.

>>48676600
You're the last anon who should get to call other anons idiots, anon.

>>48676532
pls no
not again
this is how it starts

>>48676532
So for all purposes we should act under the notion that commonwealth and valen clans spies have seen our fleet over the planet and will be basing future diplomacy on what happens here between us and the union

Wait unity must be seeing this! so what is that nerd saying back on Zero pol

>>48676684
I'm sure some iterations of our second/third-favourite nerd are squee-ing while anticipating the repercussions of our opening hand.

Before you ask, our favourite nerd is our daughteru of course.

>>48676699
Followed by Lee

>>48676532
"No. He's still in the middle of his speech." The officer says. He pulls up the stream of the speech, with Magnus gripping his podium like a wrestling opponent as he shouts from a balcony flanked by banners of the Commonwealth's member worlds, all held between several dozen story long Commonwealth flags draped over the face of the building from which he speaks. Beneath him, in the streets illuminated by the light cast back from the spotlights affixed onto the massive eagles of the Commonwealth flags, battalions of troopers march along a parade ground to a number of waiting troop transports. The admiral looks over the spectacle with some hint of disapproval.

"A bit flashy, but it gets the message across." He says. "Make sure someone tells him after the speech and to contact me as soon as he can." The officer nods quickly and turns to leave. Admiral Yogesh looks you your drone expectantly. After a short moment of silence between you he speaks.

"You have no obligation to explain your interactions with other nations to us, but I would appreciate if you did." He says.

>Write in

>>48676683
While there won't be a thread this coming week, after that I do hope to get a few midweek threads up before running 60 on the 21st, so hopefully it won't be that long.

>>48676240
that is fucking uncanny

I'm not sure what the fuss is about, I assume that anything that one civilization does all the others know within the hour, when it comes to the Human/Valen/Squids.

>>48676831
They attracted the wrong type of attention

>>48676831
We need to explain why we are getting involved after they asked us to ally with them

Explain that the union fucked up with void shards big time

>>48676831
Inform him they contacted biblical deamons.

That about as close an analogy as we can provide them while keeping their concept of them safely vauge, since knowledge is a gateway.

>>48676831
Human politics are human politics.

Hive had to chastise the Union for their foolish actions.

>>48676831
"The Union made a mistake. A big mistake. We've already the Magnus this much."

>>48676831
They preformed the greatest heresy possible and we are now "Negotiating" for releasing the expanse, our ancestral home, to us.

>>48676831
The Union has engaged with forces outside it's understanding and has brought the attention of dangerous beings to this section of space. The Hive will deal with this and extract a price from the Union in return. This will be non-negotiable.

>>48676831
> resent union actions have increased the hives need for resources so the hive is currently making its claim of the space you humans call the expanse

>>48676831
They were stinking up the place. Being unsanitary. Contamination.

In human terms, it is classified.

>>48676831
Remember when we told you that the Union was placing us all in grave danger? Well, they went ahead with it, and cost the hive dearly in doing so.

>>48676896
This, we need to let the Commonwealth know we're trying to gain the Expanse.

>>48676831
We should also tell them that we hate Killinger and list off his crimes which include the Mirage incident.

>>48676891
Magnus wasn't there, anon, geez. it was Yogesh we told there was a disturbance.

>>48676896
>>48676929
Nah

We cant be seen as expansionary power cause it make the cw think we are going to take over their planets after were done with the scavs

And we did say something about the union messing with things big time already

>>48676976
Guess I misremembered.

So I know this will be a controversial suggestion but I vote for cloning Seiner.
BUT AS A CHIMERA
Best way to spook Killinger

Also we need to get Lee his abomination-cat

>>48677028
May not matter if the war starts today

>>48677008
They were expanding into our territory.
>>48677028
No.

>>48677008
>We cant be seen as expansionary power cause it make the cw think we are going to take over their planets after were done with the scavs
Hahahaha
No. Those will be our worlds, the Commonwealth can come over if they play nice.

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>>48676831
"Humans have made grave blunders in the Union. This speaker has informed you of this." Your drone chirps. "The Hive was forced to intervene for the safety of all, at great cost, and is now negotiating with the human Union." The admiral looks at you with some suspicion.

"I ask because helping us against the Union wasn't exactly a part of our deal, and I would like to know exactly what it was they did so we can avoid doing it ourselves." He says.

>Inform him the Hive is reestablishing its ancient claims on the Expanse
>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance
>Inform him it is related to research into 'forbidden technology'
>Write in
>Other

>>48676851
This is a decently accurate assumption. The various established factions have been spying on each other for quite some time, so anything big that happens like, well, everything you've been doing in the past few weeks, will manage to make the rounds in the rumor mill rather quickly

>>48677052
>>Inform him the Hive is reestablishing its ancient claims on the Expanse
>>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance
>>Inform him it is related to research into 'forbidden technology'

>>48677052
>Inform him the Hive is reestablishing its ancient claims on the Expanse
>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance
>Inform him it is related to research into 'forbidden technology'

>>48677052
>>Inform him it is related to research into 'forbidden technology'

>>48677052
>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance
>Inform him it is related to research into 'forbidden technology'

>>48677052
I propose we have the ambassador drone say something like
>"The hive has an enemy. One that enslaved the Ceph, the Skyla and a Queen. One that grows stronger the more that is known about him. One that the Union were about to bring into this corner of reality."
and to refuse to explain that part of the topic further.

>>48677052
>Inform him the Hive is reestablishing its ancient claims on the Expanse
>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance

>>48677052
>>Inform him the Hive is reestablishing its ancient claims on the Expanse
>>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance
>>Inform him it is related to research into 'forbidden technology'
And we cannot emphasize just how 'forbidden' this is.

>>48677052
>Inform him the Hive is reestablishing its ancient claims on the Expanse
>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance
>Inform him it is related to research into 'forbidden technology'

>>48677052
>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance
Also just tell him "black crystals with strange energy are BAD BAD BAD, do not touch them"

>>48677052
>Inform him the Hive is reestablishing its ancient claims on the Expanse
>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance
>Inform him it is related to research into 'forbidden technology'
The enslaver has seen us, and now it watches.
>>48677099
Also supporting this.

Should we mention how this same forbidden technology destroyed Luna?

>>48677052
We should also express to him we were trying to hide until this point.
>Inform him the Hive is reestablishing its ancient claims on the Expanse
>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance
>Inform him it is related to research into 'forbidden technology'
We should also that they are not our only allies and the Scavs are not our only enemies.

>>48677052
>Inform him the Hive is reestablishing its ancient claims on the Expanse
>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance
>Ignorance is their best protection
>Explain that all that have faced the outside menace have either perrished, where enslaved or forced to sacrifice the majority of their existance to escape their view

>>48677152
Not yet, let's hold off on that until we're ready to ask the Commonwealth for all data related to the weapon they built there.

>>48677152
Probably not. Then they'd know it's also a path to fleet destroying ultimate power after checking the archives.

No admiral alive probably remembers the details of the lunar death ray, but they can find out if they have something to cross reference.

>>48676532
Damn do I love that imagery of our armada.

>>48677165
>they
By this I mean the Commonwealth.

>>48677052
>Inform him it is related to research into 'forbidden technology'

Forbidden

FORBIDDEN

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>>48677198
Yes, be sure to extra emphasize FORBIDDEN.

oh fuck its back!!! HAPPIEST TIME OF THE WEEK.

>>48677099
This

>>48677198
FORBIDDEN
OO
R R
B B
I I
D D
D D
E E
N N

>>48677052
Supporting >>48677099


>Inform him the Hive is reestablishing its ancient claims on the Expanse
>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance

>>48677052
NECRONOMICON

How about this: we ask them to show us all their super-secret research shit on the promise of us helping with anything that we don't deem FORBIDDEN and on condition of them halting anything we deem so. Offer Scav's FTL drive - full schematics plus a couple of human-style ships equipped with it - as hands down offer, given they are likely to be investigating it already.

Do you think they'd be up for that?

>>48677099
Nahhh.

We should be as vague as possible. White Queen indicates vagueing it up is safer. No identifying specifics about the enemy's associations.

>>48677198
>>48677236
Fuck, let me try this again.

FORBIDDEN
OO
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BB
II
DD
DD
EE
NN

>>48677052
QUEST DRONE MY LORD AND MASTER BEHIND THE QUEEN!

How big are thinkers?

You do know that: Forbidden = shiny do want!
Unless we explain.
I suggest: The closest approximation we could find in you culture without damning you would be the fictional works of one Howard Phillips Lovecraft, just worse by approximately several orders of magnitude.

>>48677099
>>48677052
I support this. I've never been a big fan of hiding everything from the humans

>>48677323
IT IS FORBODEN

FORBIDDEN
O E
R D
B D
I I
D B
D R
E O
NEDDIBROF

>>48677328
From the pastebin on hive biology:
>Thinker – On their own, the thinker resembles a bloated beetle with a two foot radius. Its entire body is a brain, with no sensory or digestive organs, and no method of independent movement.

>>48677052
>Inform him the Hive is reestablishing its ancient claims on the Expanse
>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance
>Inform him it is related to research into 'forbidden technology'

Also
>Other
The Union has been engaged in varying levels of hostilities against both the Hive and some of its allies, and we wish this opposition to end, one way or another. We have more important threats to prepare to face. Explain along the lines of
>>48677099

They're going to be very concerned with the basics of who our friends and enemies are, so they can feel that they understand our basic motivations and can trust them.

4chan automatically deletes repeated spaces, those word boxes won't work if you're going to be lazy about it and only do the outside.

>>48677052
>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance
>Inform him it is related to research into 'forbidden technology'

Bastards woke up the old ones

>>48677377
Ah thank you. This will help me a lot.

>>48677323
Fuck it, I can't express the degree of forbidden the drone should emphasise that it should be.
maybe if I do this:

--------------FORBIDDEN
------------FORBIDDEN
----------FORBIDDEN
--------FORBIDDEN
------FORBIDDEN
----FORBIDDEN
--FORBIDDEN
FORBIDDEN
ORBIDDEN
RB-IDDEN
BI-DDEN
I-D-DEN
DDEN
DEN
EN
N

Yes. I think this is sufficiently forbidden.

>>48677418
FORBIDDEN to the nth degree

Uh uh, can we do some psycic reiforcement/reverb on the forbidden part, like we do with the radio transmissions.

and have a drone hold up a flashlight under the Speakers face, for dramatic lighting.

>>48677495
>have a drone hold a lightsaber under the speaker's face
much more dramatic, and emphasises the "forbidden" with a bit of "we'll give you this if you forget/bury the forbidden thing with us"

>>48677052
We cannot tell you what it is, but we know it when we see it.

Or hear it.

If we had an overview of the topics of your Thinkers' research topics, we could flag it as a dangerous threat. But the information on the topic must be contained.

>>48677520
No giving the Humies tech.

How about we offer an incentive? We can offer a reward for all the artifacts turned over to us.

>>48677539
Not necessarily technology.

>>48677052
"The Hive has an enemy." Your speaker says. "One that is from beyond the realm of human perception. This enemy has enslaved the Ceph, the Skyl before them, and a Queen of the hives' own kind. The Union made grave errors in their research, and tampered with forbidden technology that would bring this enemy into our reality." You detect the attention of several of the nearby comm officers, who nervously strain their eyes to watch you as their minds fill with imagined horrors from the fables of their homeworlds.

"This technology is linked to the contents of the wreckage of the Mirage, making its retrieval vastly more important now." Your speaker says.

"And you didn't think it was important to tell us about this sooner?" Yogesh asks. Your speaker simply chitters.

"It is not of your concern."

Yogesh examines your drone for some time in silence before looking back to the holo-display.

"It isn't. My concern is the hostile xeno threat before us both here and now, but this is of concern to Magnus. I think it would do well to give him an explanation of this threat so he can better prepare our fleets."

>Agree to inform Magnus of the extra-dimensional threat
>Disagree, it is beyond you
>No! This knowledge is forbidden
>Other (write in)

>>48677328
Bout the size of a medicine ball.

>>48677558
I like the award thing, maybe give them grav plating if they can find us about 10 crystals.

>>48677520
you don't go around showboating lightsabers, you have to use them casually as fuck, and say they aren't really that impressive, vibroblades do a way better job.
And watch as the humans loose their heads about FUCKING lightsabers!!!

>>48677495
Nice thinking, it would be fun to use our psionic abilities when dealing with humans more.

>>48677558
We could offer usage of our ability to teleport stuff between planets.
>>48677578
No.

>>48677052
>>Inform him it is connected to the contents of the Mirage wreck, and its retrieval is of great importance
>>Inform him it is related to research into 'forbidden technology'

>>48677568
>No! This knowledge is forbidden
THERE IS NOTHING TO TELL OTHER THAN WE CAN TELL NOTHING

Only the Hive has the capability to stop this threat.

>>48677568
>No! This knowledge is forbidden
>The threat grows stronger the more you know. We have already said too much, but remember that as long as you don't look into it, it doesn't look into you.

>>48677568
>Agree to inform Magnus of the extra-dimensional threat

>>48677568
>>Agree to inform Magnus of the extra-dimensional threat
There isn't much point of warning an admiral not to fuck with these things if he can't pass the warning on to the guy who actually runs the nation.

>>48677558
We're really fucking good at terraforming and it's not as prohibitively expensive (comparatively) for us as it is for them.

Combine this with the facts that it's not revealing any technology that they don't have themselves and also public sentiment among humanity is that they're hemmed in on all sides with nowhere new to settle and it becomes the perfect gift.

I'd also like to offer it when bargaining with the Union.

>>48677568
>>Agree to inform Magnus of the extra-dimensional threat

>>48677568
>>Agree to inform Magnus of the extra-dimensional threat
>>Stress that it is a very bad idea to get involved with it.

>>48677568
>>No! This knowledge is forbidden

>>48677637
Terraforming some uninhabitable worlds inside their systems could be a good way to tide things over with the union as well.

>>48677568
>Agree to inform Magnus of the extra-dimensional threat
Better to tell this to the head honcho, or explain as best as we can why we can't tell him anything.

>>48677568
>>Other (write in)
"The things we which we fight against, gatter their power from the 'know'. What this speaker is saying is...if you knew who they are...they will know who YOU and the humanity are...The hive can't allow more losts. The hive WON'T allow it."

>>48677568
"You assume your fleets can wound it, but they can only slow it down to buy time for escape like our ancestors have done long before your species have left the primordial gene pool."
>Agree to inform Magnus of the extra-dimensional threat
>No! This knowledge is forbidden
"It grows stronger the more you know about it, the only way to survive is to be blind, deaf, and a coward."

>>48677637
This. Our terraforming and unparalleled medical technology is what sets us apart.

We've got gene splicing nanomachines and programmable mutagenic compounds and all that jazz

We could literally go to Sol and turn Mercury, Venus and Mars into garden worlds

>>48677685
Technically humanity was meant to be blind.

>>48677568
>Other
Humans are safe you do nother need to risk extinction you have helped us enough already

>>48677568
>>Disagree, it is beyond you
>>48677568
>>No! This knowledge is forbidden

>>48677568
>Agree to inform Magnus of the extra-dimensional threat

>Bout the size of a medicine ball.
I always imagined them to be the size of a dog, squishy huggable dogs.

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>>48677714
>turn Mercury, Venus and Mars into garden worlds
>mfw i realize Mars was a Skyl world but it was destroyed by the void gods

>>48677644
That's basically

>>48677568
>>Disagree, it is beyond you

Weapons and war and fleets are incapable of fighting this battle. Ignorance is your only shield.

>>48677750
>>48677685
We could show them footage of the Void Beast in Tenebris. Their spies may eventually find knowledge of the event stolen from the Union

>>48677685
>they can only slow it down
They actually cannot even do that, unless they can make it to the Ceph homeworld to bomb the Spire.

Note that all projectiles simply ceased to have any momentum as soon as they struck the thing at Tenebris. They do literally nothing.

>>48677568
>>Disagree, it is beyond you

>>48677673

Yeah, I think it'd be some good PR for us after all this aggression, show the carrot as well as the stick sort of thing.

Doesn't mean we'd be just doing it for free though. I wanna research those sunspot creatures. Does anyone remember what system they're in?

>>48677772
>Agree to inform Magnus of the extra-dimensional threat
>>Have most of the briefing be 'thinking about them attracts them, so don't go telling people this willy-nilly.

We were once a people with one thousand queens across ten thousand stars. Then we met these beings. Then show them a Map of what we know of.

>>48677784
I kind of hope we end up at a point where there are Hive controlled worlds with populations of humans, taidaren, freed ceph, Unity Androids, Skyll, Phantoms, Valen, and even Ralighans getting along together

>>48677804
Who else thinks this is a bad idea?

>>48677804
Only if we blur and censor the Void beast, and hold them at gun point just in case of contamination.
>>48677811
Don't know how the Ceph spire is important, but i was talking about trowing corpses at it.

>>48677804
Seconding this, invite him back to our assigned room and flash some context lite footage of the chaos at Nowhere. Brain zombies, that ranting scientist dude, blurry shots of the thing that came out of the portal and punched Theseus' server ships.

Then shut the hologram off, dim the lights and whisper "Forbidden."

>>48677871
Bad ideas are the best kind of ideas.

>>48677857
>"We were once a thousand queens spread across an entire galaxy. Now we are two, and left our home millions of lightyears away when we crossed the space between galaxies."

>>48677860
Me too anon me too.

>>48677897
Stop this extra galactic memeing you dumbass.

Unless you're outright lying to them to puff up our importance.

>>48677683
This

>>48677888
Now that, that is pretty spooky.

>>48677860
Ditto.

>>48677888
I like this, it really doesn't give then any more information and just reinforces the threat. Also aren't humans a blind spot to the void Gods due to the white queen's tampering? So they should only draw attention if they actively Fuck with a shard.

>>48677860
Fucking hate how anons keep turning all space civs quests into this

>>48677989
It's extremely unfitting for this quest.

The only 'peace and happiness' end is where everyone is adopted and doing science. For Mother.

Remember when we negotiated 27th the commonwealth for more calderon (or whatever it is called)? Well whatever happened to the stuff we took off of the Clarke wreck and stashed in a bunker to investigate later because we thought it might be unstable, we still have that right?

>>48678010
Well sure, how do you get mass adoptions and science? By having a large and loyal population to draw on from.

>>48676851
Jeez, the look on that cucked Valen's face when he realised some random fags hawking engines were selling Hive goods before most known factions knew they even existed.

>>48678010
I dont want to become the babysitter for every species

Let them fight and develop their own civs

>>48678046
Fastest way to make them loyal is to adopt them. So other way around.

>>48678043
Canderon, the fuel for Union's blackholetech. And yes we still hold onto that. And have blackholeguns to make with it.

>>48678043
Yup.

>>48677860
Get out hippy

>>48678083
Yeah really.

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THIS IS NOW A RHINO THREAD

>>48677860
They have their own worlds.

>>48677934
It's true you silly billy. Remember the memories of the exodus we found?

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>>48677568
"The Hive may have already said too much, but we have learned the dangers of provoking human curiosity, and will say what we can to your ruler." Your drone says. The admiral looks at you with some suspicion but buries it in his mind, turning his attention to his assembling fleets.

"Regardless, no matter what threat may be further over the horizon, your warnings will be of no use unless we deal with what is directly before us. We have already taken casualties at numerous points. The enemy fleets tend to strike quickly with an expeditionary force. They fire from long range, and fall back before we can engage, then return with a larger force." He says. "From my observations, I believe they lack any proper method of FTL communication, which is certainly to our advantage, and these hit and run fleets are probing attacks, measuring our defences to gauge how many ships they need to send."

"They have sent these attacks against the Hive." You reply. Yogesh nods as he strokes his thick beard.

"We are still fighting off the ground forces where you intervened, and additional fleets have been spotted in Tiberion and Krasnodar, as well as Godard and Hel. Judging by the typical size of their assault forces, I doubt we will be able to field a force capable of expunging them from all of their targets without taking heavy casualties, especially with so much of our forces having to dedicate themselves to the Union front.

>Offer full defensive support, space and ground support
>Offer ships to support the picket fleets and support ground troops through fighter and ship bombardment at request
>Other (write in)

>>48677934
Pretty sure QD implied that the old queens were from another galaxy

>>48678083
>>48678062
>>48678010
>>48678124
>Not wanting to assimilate the lesser races.
They're all designed to serve a specific purpose by QD you know.

>>48678010
That would ONLY be on a Hive controlled world. The other factions I have a feeling are going to be dealing with their own shit still.

>>48678137
Assimilation is not coexistence.

>>48678129
>>Offer full defensive support, space and ground support

>>48678129
What exactly is the difference between these two options?

>>48678129
>Offer full defensive support, space and ground support
We want to catch them alive.

>>48678137
I guess some people just want the Grimdark 40kek sci-fi future of everyone fucking hates everyone else instead of the Star Trek Utopian one

>>48678129
>Offer full defensive support, space and ground support


>>48678153
Whether we land our warriors or if we just hang in orbit and shoot things from there.

>>48678129
>Offer full defensive support, space and ground support
DESU i just want our drones to wreck shit

>>48678129
>>Offer ships to support the picket fleets and support ground troops through fighter and ship bombardment at request


>>48678127
>>48678136
I remember it better than you. Nowhere is anything intergalactic implied. Just that ancient hive space was very far.

At this point even a thousand lightyears qualifies as 'very far'.

All we know is that the Ark on Raligha was capable of getting from there to here, and no further.

>>48678124
And we'll even prepare a few extra worlds for them.
All they have to do is to get off our worlds or assimilate, and be a nice little buffer zone between us and OQ.

>>48678129
>Offer full defensive support, space and ground support
We haven't had a military drone fight in a while, and I'd love to see how terrifying drone armies can be with fleet support.

>>48678129
>>Offer full defensive support, space and ground support

>>48678145
Fair point.

>>48678129
>Offer ground support where we intervened
>specifically coating the entire place in biological agents meant to turn Scavengers into madmen or acidic slag or both. And then we mop up with warriors
>then propose the following plan for our space fight:
>we get the humans to send a force towards Scavenger Central, but have them stop halfway (so we can see if they react and really CAN see human ships move at warp speed), then continue
>a minute before the humans exit warp, we attack the scavengers hammer and anvil style; they're out of position to fight us and by the time they are in position to fight us the humans are on them

>>48678129
>Offer full defensive support, space and ground support
"Ground combat is a guaranteed victory for the hive."

>>48678190
Brilliant.

Somebody give this quantum thinker an extra serving of nutrient slurry.

>>48678180
Yeah they were likely from another arm of the galaxy and the Ark used a Super-Blink to teleport that far

>>48678190
I like this plan, it is a good plan.
Supporting

>>48678129
>Offer full defensive support, space and ground support
This is what I was waiting for, a good reason to use the ground forces in a large engagement.

>>48678137
I don't mind having clones and children, but it's not in character to make a happy republic, which seems to be all you ever get in space fiction.

>>48678129
>Offer full defensive support, space and ground support

>>48678190
I think the scavs have masks and thus would be immune to our bioweapons, but this is a good offensive strategy for naval combat.

>>48678129
>>Offer ships to support the picket fleets and support ground troops through fighter and ship bombardment at request

We can deploy INSTANTLY with the blink drive upon request for more.

We don't need to be there constantly.

>>48678225
I already admitted fair point over here >>48678189

If were doing ground combat can we hold a bit of drone building at the end of the thread please?

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>>48678168
>if it's not one extreme then it's another extreme
Nice fucking arguing skills. Did you get them from a third grader?
Multiculturalism is a lie

>>48678129
>Offer full defensive support, space and ground support
>Other (write in)
"The scavengers have proven themselves to be highly adept at reverse engineering captured technology and quickly mastering its use in combat. It is of vital importance that you leave none alive to return potential human technology where at all possible. We request that you allow us immediate access to any remaining scavenger ground forces on your worlds."

>>48678190
>>specifically coating the entire place in biological agents meant to turn Scavengers into madmen or acidic slag or both.

...They wear vacuum sealed spacesuits.

Our bioweapons are useless against a spacefaring race that never takes the suit off like them.

Also, no. What we have to do is bait the Scavs into deploying things one by one, to attack SMALL human numbers.

Then swoop in with blink drives, which they cannot detect because they travel instantaneously, to outnumber them.

Humans are the perfect bait with their warp drives.

>>48678243
masks aren't going to save you from biological agents designed to be absorbed through your skin thanks to our psychic spores.

All the races are going to get along once we control their thoughts

>>48678225
>expecting a republic
>not a monarchy
In all seriousness, I was thinking it would be best to let the individual worlds/colonies organize themselves as they see fit with us managing all interstellar state decisions. Sort of like the Commonwealth model.

>>48678286
>he thinks masks aren't part of a full bodysuit

Bitch you do realize these people live and fight in a vacuum on a regular basis, and would need full bodysuits to prevent decompression?

>>48678303
Yeah it's probably best for all involved if we stayed out of local planetary governance.

We should still have planetary holdings though, we can set up underground farms and turn human poop into delicious nutrients.

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>>48678296
And they get replaced with hybrids.

Everyone is getting adopted

>>48678314
I apologize. I had forgotten about the suits and was arguing against the usefulness of masks against our biological agents.

Thank you for reminding me of them.

>>48678129
>>Other (write in)
The Scavs can detect the movements of the human warp drive, but it is questionable whether they can hope to detect the hive's methods.

So, once a day, the hive can swoop in on whatever small forces the humans have deployed, which the Scavs will believe easy pickings, only to have hive ships come in and outnumber them after their arrival.

The Scavs do not seem to have FTL communications. They will never know what happened to their fleets that did not return.

>>48678190
Also to add to what I suggested here: We should do some explosive cloaked pod attacks as we jump in, so we cripple their deadliest ships right away.

>>48678286
dude do you think scavs walk around shirtless or something? they're in fully sealed body armour u big fag

>>48678363
They've captured human ships. They're going to have Q-Comm soon

>>48678353
This!

>>48678303
>In all seriousness

>>48678129
>Offer ships to support the picket fleets and support ground troops through fighter and ship bombardment at request

>>48678303
>>48678352
Unlike human monarchs, the Queen could rule the entirety of this stellar empire on her own.

However, due to the individualistic nature of humans, valen and/or taidaren, if would be best if we had a 'council' of sorts of representatives that each planet would choose to represent them, and they and the bureaucracy of the planet would consult the speakers/thinkers(/the queen) in charge of the planet about all matters, with us simply having to increase the number of thinkers stationed there as needed.

>>48678401
Oh yea, gonna have to tell Yogesh about that.

>>48678260
Sometimes people say things that are so stupid you just have to ignore it, safely assuming everyone else will ignore it as well thinker anon.

>>48678168
I want the species to have their own factions and goals not just be cardboard cutouts that do what we say

>>48678449
We could also ask him, since he would know if any ships were captured that did not self destruct.

Also, reminder that Quantum communications was a Very slow research subject with a Risk of Failure, back when we had it.

So we have time before they're capable of reproducing it.

>>48678129
>Offer full defensive support, space and ground support

>>48678401
Q-Comm is based around quantum entanglement.
Even if they have the end result, a single FTL-comms system, said system is tied around a number of receivers that humans still control.

Furthermore, they only have the single product, they do not have the tech required to actually build another one, so it's of no use to them unless they can manage to capture another human ship with an intact Q-Comm and experiment with them.
The entire Q-comm system is based around 2 parts after all, and they only have one half of it.

>>48678401
Q Coms only work with the q coms they were bound to it so they would be worth less to the scavs but I'm not sure what the scavs skill in reverse engineering is

>>48678168
Startrek Utopian?

Dude the writers always have to put war in all the plots cause it is boring other wise

>>48678496
It's unclear whether if humans sever the quantum string from the far end, it invalidates its utility as a research subject.

The FTLComm on the USV Clarke was useless for reverse engineering, but that was the damage in the crash I'm pretty sure, not severing from the far end.

Quantum entanglement is pretty finnicy, pocke it to hard with your science stick, and it falls appart.

Rolled 50 (1d100)

We should kill the humans. Leave only the hive humans around. And the adopted ones.

>>48678129
"The Hive will assist in their removal." Your drone chirps. The admiral watches as helmet-camera footage is played in several places in the central holo-display, showing marines and armor-clad drop troopers firing into formations of the scavenger forces. Packs of leaderless pups and small, animalistic looking berserkers sprint along the battlefield, scraping at the armor of the larger troopers or fleeing in panic as they advance. Others, clad in their own armor, fire back, ripping into their own caught in the crossfire.

"They have little regard for their own lives, it seems." Yogesh says. "Are they individual, or do they hold a collective mind like you?" He asks. Your drone chitters.

"They are between."

"Those armored suits, those are new. Engineered from our own drop suits, perhaps, but that would mean they can go from reverse engineering to mass production in days to weeks." He says. Your drone chitters softly, almost mumbling to itself.

"yes, very slow to adapt."

"Others don't even seem to have weapons." Yogesh continues, deliberately ignoring your statement. "They seem smaller, a sub species? They look almost like they could be children, if not for the fact that they are being sent into battle without weapons."

You search through the mind of your own captive Scavenger, scanning his memories to its own adolescence. An age of mindlessness and violence, animalistic in nature.

"Their young are not sentient. They are animals." Your drones says. "Their minds grow later." Yogesh watches the screen as several small scavengers, each the size of a dog, charge madly at the dug out cover of the Commonwealth forces, their pack being quickly gunned down as they charge on all fours. The last few make it to the trench, diving at the humans as their enhanced claws sink into armor and scrape at drop trooper plating. You see one sever a human's arm before a shotgun shell shatters its body like faberge, and a burst of weapon fire puts down the other.

cont.

>>48678440
>the Queen could rule the entirety of this stellar empire on her own.
We could, but there would be some rather uncomfortable adjustment for all parties involved. Planetary governance of aliens isn't something we can instantly master even if we can poop out as much computational power as we want, we'll need to accrue experience in it before we get better at it which will most likely involve fucking up and pissing off our population. Unless you want to parasite everything, which carries its own consequences.

Also, assuming you don't want to just hand it off to our autistic thinkers it will cost valuable attention/plotline bloat.

I see the appeal in ruling over these fags though, I think if you want to go down that direction we'd be better served by getting Theseus to govern in our stead.

>>48678623
>"yes, very slow to adapt."
kek

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>>48678623
>"yes, very slow to adapt."

>>48678450
I can't help myself, I bite every time.

>>48678660
>>48678661
The commentary always kills me.

>>48678440
Yeah, that's basically my ideal scenario for managing client populations within the hive. Maybe with Theseus involved with our human relations department.

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>>48678623
>"Their young are not sentient. They are animals." Your drones says. "Their minds grow later."

So, just like humans?

>>48678634
We do all the infrastructure and healthcare while Theseus does the logistics?

>>48678440
I mean, it might be nice uniting all the species under the queen's banner. The queen's race is practically responsible for all the other races existing, right? Or is that only the humans? That we know of, anyways.

>>48678700
with the diffrence that their young arn't quite as helpless.

>>48678634
>>48678735
>>48678737
Or maybe we don't try to waste time ruling them directly and let them do their own things like with the Raleigh and only take some tribute from them once in a while

>>48678735
I think that'd be a great compromise.

>>48678737
The hives might be responsible for the existence of all the current sentient races. WQ visited the humans and uplifted them from pre-sentience during the middle of a stellar civil war 50k years ago. Who knows what all the queens were doing all around the galaxy before the civil war?

>>48678781
Well, yeah. That's what I was saying. It would be similar to the Commonwealth, except for the potentially explosive rivalries.

>>48678781
A distant overlord that doesn't provide you with much obvious benefit, yet demands tribute, is one of the fastest ways to breed resentment and hatred towards the ruler in a population of humans.
You may have seen a few examples of this in action in your history classes.

>>48678781
That's what I'd prefer too but you should realise that there's more opportunities to be had in governing interstellar aliens when compared with spear chucking savages.

>>48678829
Why are we wanting to rule humans? Thier so ineffective were better off just using our own workers and warriors than humans

Rolled 61 (1d100)

>>48678875
They make reasonably nice food

>>48678829
>>48678860

And what they will be happy and get along with each other like how things are going on right now in the US or Britain?

Either we end up parasite them and make them irrelevant to the plot and just fluff so we can say we rule a multi-species empire or allow them to have their own factions and importance to the plot

>>48678875
Gourmet chefs that can cook for Mother.
That's literally all we have to gain from Humanity.

It's worth it though, because it's for mother.

Is it bad that I want a special speaker who looks like the beautiful woman robed in gossamer wings like the queen in hallucinations?

>>48678875
Because as they expand they can produce a steady stream of human thinkers for us anon. The hive is a master at reverse engineering existing technologies but it's greatest weakness is it's inability to come up with novel ideas. Which is why the old queens managed to go more than 70,000 years without inventing anything that wasn't related to psionics.

>>48678623
"Fascinating. A lack of mental development is common in the young of intelligent species, but they are usually also physically incapable as well." Yogesh says. "They seem to be similar to valen spawn, although these are far more physically dangerous. A valen tadpole is hardly more dangerous than a barracuda, these seem deliberately hostile, trained to be war hounds until they develop their minds enough to use more advanced tools and weapons. It says quite a bit of their evolution, and the morals that evolution has given them." He says. "Regardless, the forces are being mopped up rather well at this point, but incursions have already been reported. Scouting fleets have attacked the picket forces in Godard and Hel not too long ago, and an invasion fleet has already breached the perimeter of Tiberion and have already begun landing ground forces, while invasion fleets have been detected entering the outer system of Krasnodar and Kalidesh both." He says, and turns to you.

"I have assembled my personal fleet, and a number of satellite task forces, but the local picket forces are not properly suited to handle these attacks."

>Offer to defend systems (write in) fully
>Offer forces (write in) to serve under the Admiral
>Other (write in)

>>48678875
Because when we put our spine babies in them they become so cute?

>>48678920
You are onto something here thinker drone.
Let's discuss this idea in more detail once QD has finished the thread.

>>48678941
>Offer to defend systems (write in) fully

>>48678941
>>Offer forces (write in) to serve under the Admiral
We can offer you a number of quantum-brained, explosive-glands warriors to fight alongside your soldiers.

Like, uh... 10 thousand? I know it's not much.

>>48678875
>>48678875
The only reason they want to rule the humans while letting them live independently is because they like their own little head cannon.
They are humans and can't think in-character

>>48678941
>Offer to defend systems
Reinforce the commonwealth in Tiberion, krasnodar and Kalidesh

Set a trap in Godard and Hel

Wait how many ships do we have that are free to use right now?

>>48678941
>>Other (write in)
Go wipe the floor with the invasion fleets in Krasnodar and Kalidesh. Smear them across space and overwhelm any ground forces that managed to land.

>>48678927
That's what we have quantum thinkers for. That's what we have the good doctor for.

If you want science, then find a few labs and adopt the scientists. There is no need to cultivate a civilization under us.

>>48678941
>Offer to defend systems (write in) fully
Hel and Godard at least, these are the systems closest to the expanse.
We could even negotiate something with the commonwealth to experiment on the prisoners kept in Hel later on.

>Offer to mop up the invasion fleet that has breached Tiberion.

>>48678941
>Offer to defend systems (write in) fully

Mother offers the protection of the hive in exchange for information.

Send a few battlegroups.

>>48678927
We kinda reached the point that any research that isnt in the psi tech tree is useless now

>>48678941
>Offer forces to serve under the Admiral
Offer 5 Heavy Battlegroups (it's about time we blinked them out of Gemini anyway, seeing as we've made our statement already.)
Also 10 supporting Light Fleets.

And offer as many millions of grounds forces as is appropriate. Be very blase about it all.

I want to see Commonwealth tactics.

>>48678912
Wait we can still process non hive food I figured after we developed the hive that we lost the organs need for that

>>48678941
>>Offer to defend systems (write in) fully
Tiberion is the focus right now.

Tiberion and Hel.

>>48678941
>offer to CRUSH THE SCAVENGERS wherever they are dumb enough to make landfall
>and then propose a joint naval op

>>48678999
Well, right now, you sorta have all of them floating over Gemini, so you will need to divert a few, but I feel rather confident that the point you were making with them has been sufficiently made.

>>48678941
>Offer forces (write in) to serve under the Admiral
5% of Leelands swarm to remove scavs wherever they land. Also some ships to buff up their pickets, although we should suggest the blink ambush tactic first.
>Offer to defend systems
border worlds.

>>48678941
Annihilate all ships in Tiberion.

Once the fools commit to getting closer at Krasnodar and Kalidesh, then we can come in and prevent their escape so they can never live to tell about what happened.

>>48678941
>>Offer to defend systems (write in) fully
Krasnodar and Kalidesh. We'll take care of the invasion forces.

>>48678941
Um can we get a list of available fleets right now since we may need to decide to send them to launch surprise attacks on union positions right now?

>>48679082
You know what this means, don't you?

We need to immediately begin construction on new fleets.

>>48678829
What if our tribute was of more value to us than it is to them to the point of it not being seen as tribute? Assume a symbiotic relationship on alien governed planets under our control.

We could sell our various hive goods and medical procedures for credits, take control of their waste disposal and street cleaning services for nutrients and metal. I'm sure there's loads of profitable stuff we can do without becoming an overlord figure.

>>48679082
>all of them floating over Gemini
What? I thought that was only a half dozen fleets we sent with the citadel, only about a third of our overall fleet. What is defending Leeland or patrolling our space right now?

>>48679082
Shit so we cant support the commonwealth this turn then

So we need to decide how to split the fleet on 3 fronts then, Auntie, union and scavs

>>48678920
to my great shame i must admit that this is also something i would enjoy

>>48678920
This sounds stupid

>>48679090
I agree with this. Also I would rather we control our fleets. If we let then control then they will be less efficient and the humans might get an uneasy closer look at or capabilities

>>48679124
I would be COMPLETELY down for that.

MORE HEAVY BATTLEGROUPS
MORE LIGHT FLEETS
MORE LIGHT FLEET VARIANTS
MORE MORE MORE!!!!!!

>>48678999
I support this, with this anon's >>48679062 fleet numbers because to be honest I'm a little unclear on how many fleets of various types we have lying about at the moment.

>>48679082
I think you got things mixed up QD.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/48446300/#p48448685
>1 Citadel Hive Ship
>6 Heavy Battlefleet
>10 Light fleet

Out of our total forces of
>10 Heavy Battle Fleet
>5 Missile Ambush Fleet
>25 Light Fleets

We should still have 4 heavy fleets, 15 light fleets, and all our missile ambush fleets on standby.

>>48678999
Wait to reinforce the K-stars until they're caught with their metaphorical dick in too deep to pull out in time. >>48679090

>We sent to the Union
1 Citadel Hive Ship
6 Heavy Battlefleet
10 Light fleet

A massive force.

>Our total force consists of
Citadel Hive Ship – [Awaiting orders]
Small Heavy Defense Fleet [Patrolling Leeland space]
10 Heavy Battle Fleet [Awaiting orders]
5 Missile Ambush Fleet [Awaiting orders]
25 Light Fleets [Awaiting orders]
20 Light Fleets [Under construction]

>And there is an additional
Construction underway
[Fast Assault Fleet] x5

>>48679188
FIRE UP THE FURNACES LADS, IT'S TIME TO GO TO WAR!

>>48679136
well, hopefully it'll be more of a diplomatic/bureaucratic battle against the union.
then we only have to spread ourselves between two fro-.....

Have we learned nothing from Hitler?

>>48679213
>>48679232
Rest is patrolling hive space.

>>48679152
>>48678955
I have been thinking of it since I first read the discription and have been trying to read all the threads since last week.

>>48679175
That is fair, not everyone likes thing. As long as mother is happy.

>>48679237
Hitler didn't have planet destroying super nukes that can warp were ever thier need

>>48678941
>>Offer to defend systems (write in) fully
All of them, split the heavy fleets between the affected systems. As long as they are relatively close our blink drives should allow us to instantaneously reinforce them with the light fleets in event of an incursion.

>>48679237
Hitler couldn't give birth to millions of adult, combat trained Germans every day.

>>48679082
What do Heretic and Theseus think about helping out the Commonwealth? Because if they want to build relations, nows the time

>>48679136
Scavs are simple enough to be a mild distraction. We don't need to focus so much on them imo.

>>48679232
ok, so, we have 4 Heave fleets, 5 Missile Ambush fleets and 15 Light fleets awaiting orders?

We can surely split these up effectively between human/scav conflicts.

Then we'll just have to put in construction orders.
I suggest work on making +10 for all types. yes, this includes Citadel Hive Ships

>>48679188
We should probably throw some missile fleets in there for the ambushes. We can also spare, apparently, an additional 5 Light Fleets without eating into Light Fleets currently deployed over Gemini.

And we only have to divert one Heavy Fleet from over Gemini, which is good because we don't need to commit all of our military forces to attacks when the OQ is lurking around doing god knows what.

So
>5 Heavy Battlefleets
>15 Light Fleets
>5 Missile Ambush Fleets (for the traps)
Maybe send our unorganized ships that aren't parts of fleets but are equipped with stealth generators with the Missile Fleets to help with cleaning up disgusting Scav goo.

>>48679082
Pull a battlegroup from each line and pool them for this fight. Make more for use.

>>48679296
He probably would have wished he could.

>>48679276
And the humans have gravity missiles, and the scavs have whatever laser tech, and auntie has the void god on speed dial.
When everyone has superweapons, no one has superweapons.

>>48679082
Hey QD what's the status of stealthed nuke space pods under the new system? Can we still do the invisible nuke swarm thing we beat OQ with?

>>48679296
He could have if it weren't for those meddling kids.

>>48679309
No, there's no sense in building more Hive Ships when we've only got thorough control of a handful of planets. I would rather invest in having fancy new+potent drone types in our ground forces.

So this is our ship duties then

Any fleet patrolling is the defense force against auntie and maybe the union in the future

So we need to decide how many fleets to send to each front, Scavs, Auntie and possibly union

We really need the ship list before we decide

>>48679302
Humans hate AI, it up to them to fix relations

>>48679305
Still need to provide support to the commonwealth and that going to take some fleets given we may be also at war with the union soon

Figure need to provide support in at least 2 systems minimal to keep alliance on good terms

>>48679309
Maybe we could design a new type of hive ship equipped with the rip drive. There's nothing stopping us from building multiple hive ships simultaneously either.

>>48679309
A few threads ago there was a vote to make some new stuff

>>48679350
But anon, can't you just taste the bitterness and salt from auntie when we blink in a full battlefleet consisting entirely of Hive Ships when we made such a blow to her standing fleets by taking out 1 of hers?

It. Will. Be. Delicious.

>>48678941
>Focus on Tiberion, krasnodar and Kalidesh at the moment

The admiral clicks through several controls on his data pad.

"Things don't look very good for the picket forces." He says. "None of the larger inclusions seem to have a force less than two hundred strong. Judging by tonnage and radiated heat, they look like big ones too, although it's impossible to tell for certain." He says

How many forces will you send to each system?
>Write in

>>48679232
Yes, I think a few of those were even built after your Hive ship was decided to hop over to Gemini. Regardless, you can divert however many fleets you want both from patrol duty or Gemini orbit to quickly assist in defence of the Commonwealth systems.

>>48679383
The delicious impotent anger is wonderful but those resources coul be better spent on other things. Like thousands of nuke pods. Sorry Im a sucker for nuke pods.

>>48679398
Send a heavy battle fleet and three Light fleets to each system.

>>48679302
I've been thinking about that, I don't think Heretic really cares at the minute but Theseus might be interested in building relations with the other factions. I don't think this is the time or the place for that though, I think it might be a good idea to give him a section on our space trading city if we ever get around to building one. I'm not sure what he want to trade for but it's a risk free foot in the door for diplomacy with any race willing to trade in our space.

Silly idea:
Research a spinal mount that is just an extended barrel for another ships railgun, to further accelerate the round.

>>48679398
Is thier a need to split our forces we could just blink in our full might and crush them one by one each battle can't last more than an hour each

>>48679398
5 heavy battlefleets
2 misssile ambush fleets
10 light fleets.

>>48679398
2 Heavy Battle Fleet
1 Missile Ambush Fleet
5 Light Fleets
To each planet.

>>48679398

2 Heavy Battlefleets, 3 Light Fleets, 1 Missile Fleet per system.

>>48679443
we could attach warp drives to the bullets

>>48679398
1 heavy fleet
6 light fleets
to each system

>>48679449
This is a good idea, crush them in each sector and then move to the next

If we do this then 3 heavy fleets and and 15 light fleets

>>48679398
>>Write in
Split the heavy fleets up evenly, and send 5 light fleets and 1 missile ambush fleet to each system.

>>48679449
Repairs from battle will inevitably occur lessening the overall strength of the battlegroup.

However the golden rule of spacebattle is the more you send the less you lose so.... maybe?

>>48679398
well, we have blink drives, so we can effectively jump from patrols to the fight and back again in an instant, so I suggest:
>send all standing fleets. use the heavy fleets to hammer-and-anvil the Krasnodar and Kalidesh invasions once they've committed too much to retreat. Hide the missile ambush fleets in the blink radiation of the heavy fleets to attack the scav fleets from their blind spots as they defend against our heavies and the planetary defenses. Send the free light fleets to hit-and-run the Tiberion invasion scav fleet. It doesn't matter if the Tiberion fleet retreats and warns them of our hit-and-run tactics, that will just make future encounters against them more vulnerable to the hammer-and-anvil.

>>48679398
We can send 8 Light Fleets to each.

>>48679398
2 Heavy Battlefleets
3 Light Fleets
1 Missile Ambush Fleet
for each system

>>48679398
Split 6 light fleets across the picket fleets with a heavy fleet for each.
Also build 10 of each.

>>48679449
I suspect that rolling poorly would make the fights drag a bit, that's the only problem I can see.

>>48679480
we could, but chanderon makes for verry expensive bullets.

>>48679398
2 Heavy Battle Fleet
1 Missile Ambush Fleet
5 Light Fleets

To each.

>>48679480
Whoa there thinker. Slow down before you hurt someone.

>>48679398
......So what the hell even are our forces.

https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/48440181/#48440199

You list fleets 4 threads ago, but have no definition for what fleets ARE.

Reading the wiki TALK page is suspect because anyone can edit those at any time, how are we supposed to know what's canonical?

This makes it really hard to make actual tactical decisions like this with no real guidance. How many people writing in even know what percentage of our ships total they're committing?

>>48679449
It still takes time to sublight around the system. I tend to glance over the travel time of craft in-system since it very rarely ever has any direct impact on the situation at hand, but moving into position and deploying forces does usually take much longer than that.

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>>48679443
You're thinking too small anon

We need to make 6 Capital Ships. Separate, they are strong, but together they combine to form...
MEGA GUNDAM SHINING HAND SPECIAL SUNRISE!

>>48679532
Oh so that would take multiple turns then?

So the battles may be over in this turn then?

So we have to commit now then

>>48679532
Well then would suggest we send small holding forces while a stronger force huts them one at a time

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>>48679531
This is actually a problem for me too. Ever since we switched over to the new format I have absolutely no idea how many ships we actually have anymore.

>>48679506
Changing my vote to >>48679496

>>48679567
Our greatest weapon in space warfare is the blink drive.
We can, with a good enough roll, position our fleets almost exactly where we want and need them to be at any given moment,
However, every other aspect of the battles takes time, which we do not have a lot of if the scavs are simultaneously invading multiple commonwealth worlds.
This is basically an event to earn massive brownie points with the commonwealth.

>>48679532
yeah, like the anons have been saying, >>48679590 , >>48679531 , we may need an explanation from you to fully grasp what our numbers and statistics really mean here, QD.

>>48679398
>Send 2 heavy fleet and 6 light fleets to each system
>Send 5 light fleets and 1 missile ambush fleet
>Send 8 light fleets
>Other

>>48679590
>>48679531
That would be my bad, sorry. I use the wiki to determine how you wish to form your fleets, and it logs any edits so it's typically rather reliable in that regard, but I will try to get a more appropriately usable method of conveying that information set up in the OP posts in the future from now on, sorry.

>>48679548
Yessssssss

>>48679449
Good idea. Blink in to each system in succession with everything we have, and the leave a smaller fleet (a heavy, a few lights, and an ambush) in each system once everything is gone for cleanup.

>>48679643
Yeah the blink drive is nice

But it would be pretty broken in a game sense if we were allowed to destroy 5 enemy fleets in five different systems with the same doom stack

>>48679678
>Send 2 heavy fleet and 6 light fleets to each system

>>48679504
Voting for this, hopefully it's enough.

>>48679678

>Send 2 Heavy Fleet and 6 Light Fleets to each system
We've certainly got the weight to throw around. Let's do it.

>>48679696
All in the same turn