>>48572856
Will you stop perpetuating that lie? Nobody knows if it's actually their RPG or if it's some other project, like "Lords of the Spooky" or whatever.

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How would you play an usagimimi mystic who crafts EVERYTHING?

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What are some "must have" potions for the solo adventurer, assuming they have access to all the bullshit from high-level Elemental Flux?

>>48572932
Enlarge Person is always a good pick

>>48572931
>who crafts EVERYTHING?
Don't be a mystic, be an Artisan.
As for Usagimimi, either Beastrbrood Tiefling or Agathion-blooded (can't remember the name) Aasimar

Hello everyone! A new version of the "Unchained" Fighter is here. I have added a few things to it, and would love to see opinions! These new things include several new Advanced Equipment Trainings and Advanced Armor Trainings.

In addition I have added two archetypes, adapting them to the "Unchained" Fighter. These are the Mutation Warrior and Lore Warden, becoming the Mutation Master and Lore Master. Much of these archetypes are lifted directly from what they were before, merely with a few new features and rewritings to make them work with the new class. Honestly I am a little unsure of them, so lets see together how they are!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1twEab3PBHvzMLTrx_UJak4P9g5avkvVaZfrBiMPI-6s/edit?usp=sharing

Feel free to comment using the link above.

>>48572931

As a squat, mangy, foul-mouthed little maniac who finds industrial accidents HILARIOUS and acquires/uses ingredients in the least ethical and environmentally responsible manner possible. His enchantments might literally give you cancer, but by rabbit-God, they will be REALLY good at killing people (whether you want them to or not).

What's the most anime character you've played in pathfinder?

>>48573269
No that's just disgusting.

>>48573215
Never played one. The closest was my Barbarian, but he was more like Jecht from FFX than an anime character.

When Horror Adventures Anon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=022vICwagA0

>>48573215

I'm playing him right now, he's a tough white-haired spearman that can channel his raw spirit energy into Elementsl strikes which he uses to take down massive foes.

He's 120% friendly rival personality and has side-kick levels of lust.

>>48573215
I've never gotten a chance to play her, every gm I proposed her to (rightfully) denied her

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>>48572885

You are welcome. If there are any other rough builds for Path of War you would like assistance with, I would be happy to try my hand at them in the future.

I do hope that the Path of War 1 errata playtest is released in due time, such that people will have to tiptoe less around extreme-damage disciplines such as Broken Blade and Scarlet Throne. It is rather awkward to try to present "Path of War 1 disciplines banned" builds (and yet they come out as extremely high-damage, multitarget, alpha striking murderers anyway).

how does /pfg/ find games if they all prefer text based?

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>>48572856
Hey pathfinder general, I'm currently in a situation with my GM(who also happens to be a long time friend)
running his campaign in way that is proving to be either be railroaded, or boring.
When I say boring, I don't mean just uninteresting in terms of story(although it is slightly lacking in that),
What I mean is that he will make our level 6 characters fight level 11-12 vampires just so his NPCs who he has placed with the party
(who are also significantly more powerful than us)
can beat them whilst we watch or maybe cause minimal damage or effect in both combat, and the campaign.
he is also very sensitive about us telling him this( he threatens to kill out characters or throws impossible rolls at us with dcs above 35 for traps we see around 3 times a room, and makes the perceptions dcs around the same.

Any tips on how to deal with this, or failing that, how can i fight fire with fire here?
Thanks

Pic related, my GM pretty much

How much would a expert with cooperative crafting and on craft skill cost to employee? I need a calligrapher, alchemist, smith, tailor, leather worker, sculptor, and jeweler. That's seven guys, I was thinking a gold piece per day probably? So 210 gp per month probably.

>>48573416
Talk to your GM like a human. Failing that, abandon ship and/or start your own game with Three-Dragon Ante and Shayliss Vinder. He might be a good guy, but he sounds like he either has no idea how to DM or he's just a shitty one.

>>48573392
I'm willing to play anything but still can't find a game.

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>>48573416
>DMPC pandering
Leave, he is a shit. Either that, or talk about it with your mates and bring up the problem against him as a united front.
If he will not aquiesce, then all of you leave. Being a friend is no excuse for being a shitter.
After that, GM your own campaign correctly, and allow him to join in as well as a sign of maturity

/pfg/, I have a dilemma. I love the Mystic's aurora soul archetype to bits.

But I'm also pretty sure it drops the mystic down an entire tier due to losing out on mystic's item crafting shenanigans.

What do?

>>48573269
So it's a trap that crossdresses as their actual gender?

>>48573500
Even an ERP?

>>48573531
Get your party caster to get the feats instead?
Or, failing that, dip a few levels in Artisan.

>>48573542
I'd be willing to give it a go at least. As long as I am not forced to ERP when I don't want to (fetishes or orientations I don't share), and when the game isn't majority ERP. (I'm there to play, not wank it)

>>48573533
Wait, now I'm confused. Are they a shota who dresses as a princess, or are they a princess who dresses like a shota?

>>48573531
That's a good thing.. PC magic item crafting is cancerous.

>>48573364

Tell us more about the character.

>>48573455
Any thoughts? Should I just buy slaves?

>>48573542

Are you propositioning, anon?

>>48573531
It's just bad. You can use sword and board and be more effective. Or armored glove and buckler if you want unarmed feel.

>>48573215
A 6 foot tall sorcerer, covered in tattoos, that was only 16. His cat ended up smarter than he was, but he was so full of himself that he managed to bullshit his way around anyway. Kinda wish I could play him again sometime, but I'm kind of wary after the reception he got from the rest of my group.

Do not make your husbando the sorcerer who laughs at the target of his feeblemind, please.

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>>48573654

Why would you not?

>>48573416
>>48573488
I did talk to him about it at the end of last session,
And he said he'd take it on board,
so he removed the npc's, but made the enemies even harder from now on.
It's also basically the only roleplaying group I like the people in at the moment,
should I brave it for the social interaction,
or try and convince them all to play in campaign of my own devising

>>48573738

So... He was an enchanter that would magically induce severe brain damage in a target, and then make fun of the target's mental retardation?

That's kind of hot, not gonna lie.

>>48573416
>>48573523
but his mum is one of the players, we will most likely not be able to get a united front

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>>48573802
Well, that was one of the few things I actually got to do with him, since it was a oneshot, but yes. That's the kind of person I played. He was supposed to be an asshole teenager and an example of "this is what happens when you let a wizard raise an orphan".

>That's kind of hot, not gonna lie.
>mfw every time I try to make my character be a terrible person, people wind up just liking them more

>>48573269
Get the fuck out of here you degenerate faggot

>>48573831
And his mother doesn't have a problem with it?
How old is this loser?

If that's so, still talk to your other buds, and determine if you all should scarper out of there

>>48573935

Mind control is a pretty hard kink for fantasy players, especially the kind that corrupts or "degenerates" the victim.

You being a mind-killing asshole was probably pushing their buttons something fierce. What was the character that tried to husbando yours? You mentioned someone found your guy oddly endearing.

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>>48573947
He's 19, and he never really taught her to play
(something i'm doing as we go along(he hadn't even set up anyone who hadn't done their own character correctly)
So she doesn't know anythings going wrong.
jeez, the more i talk about it, the worse it sounds

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>>48574042
>>48574071
This game has some serious fetish issues.

Sometimes I think "you know? maybe I should let people know about my hobbies" and then I remember what happened when I read through the spell list.

>>48573624
Human wildblooded sylvan razmiran priest sorcerer with arcane blood eldritch heritage feats (questionable legality, as wildblooded multiarchetype stacking is devated in my group. I believe the official stance as written is that it changes the entire bloodline, but since it only effects certain bloodline powers it's a bit grey). Uses a talent to make her level 1 powers 1 level higher, boon companion, and a robe of arcane heritage to boost her familiar and animal companion to insane levels (I still have not found a definitive order of operations for applying feats with stacking benefits, most assume they stack to the greatest benefit of the player).

Since she is an exiled bastard princess of the king and a fey touched peasant, when the king died and named her heir she was hunted by her older siblings and nearly killed. They did kill her loyal guard, an elf magus who she brought back from the dead through a focus on necromancy spells as her cohort. While her older brother quickly ran the country into ruin with his excessive lifestyle and rampant loans from other nations, she disguised herself as an short dwarven animal focus cleric with a hat of disguise and wanders the land to gain support of the populace so she can take back her throne.

It's the dumbest character I have ever made and I want to play her more than anything

>>48571683
Just wanted to say thanks for the help!

What does /pfg/ thing of a Vitalist using the Soulthief method and the Sadist and Life Leech archetypes, build and tier wise?

>>48574042
>>48574099
everyone but my cellibate cleric had to ERP succubus sex,
I doused myself in holy water and tried to beat it to death

>>48574173

Not the most effective by a long shot, but actually pretty cool.

>>48573668
No_

>>48574042
Actually, get out while you still can and still believe in hope. It's not yet too late for you.

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>>48573382
Hey 2hu. Trying to avoid being broken as shit while maintaining competence, can I get an opinion on my build?

Rose of Sharon Rubinrot
Human Harbinger 10

HP 78, AC 31 (+7 Armor, +6 Dex, +2 Nat, +2 Def, +4 Dodge)
Senses: Perception +13; Scent (Spirit Sensing Stance)
INIT +10

STATS (25 PB, Human Alternate)
10 STR, 14 CON, 22 DEX, 20 INT, 8 WIS, 12 CHA

Saves
Fort +11, Ref +11, Will +8
Add +2 Sacred vs. effects from an Evil Creature
Add +2 Morale vs Mind-Affecting

Martial Tradition: Empyreal Guardians

Basic Attack
Rosethorn (Switchscythe III) +19 (2d4+16, 20/x4)

Attack Roll Breakdown
7 BAB + 6 Dex + 2 Insight + 3 Enhance + 1 Trait

Damage Breakdown
2d4 + 6 Dex + 5 Insight + 3 Enhance + 2 Discipline Focus

Feats
Weapon Group Adaptation (Polearms), Polearm Dancer, Deadly Agility, Grasp of Darkness, Dark Allure

Traits
Rough and Ready (Profession Farmer), Blade of Mercy, Naive, Seeker

Equipment
Headband of INT II, Amulet of Nat Arm II, Ring of Prot II, Belt of Dex II, Boots of S&S, Cloak of Resistance II, Switchscythe III, Mithral Chain Shirt III

Maneuvers
Distorted Clock, Silver Strike, Rapid Strike, Blessed Pinions, Silver Crane's Blessing, Time Skitter, Sapphire Displacement Strike, Temporal Body Adjustment, Sands of Time Tornado, Time Thief's Talons

Stances
Eyes of the Crane, Spirit Sensing Stance, Riven Hourglass Stance, Stance of the Crane Knight

Her land speed is 60 feet, 90 feet when she uses Time Skitter (which should always be up in combat). Her flight speed normally matches this with Dark Flight, but in Stance of the Crane Knight it shoots up to 130 ft (though her base AC drops to 27 in exchange for DR 10/Evil).

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>>48573994
Most of the husbando-ing was being done OOC, since he was just a oneshot character, but the other PC (unrelated tiefling wizard) in the oneshot was all over him. I guess I just REALLY don't understand other people, because I was doing all that to try to play up the horror of his spells, not get people hot and bothered.

>>48574071
>>48574099
Trying to make a spellcaster in this game is an absolute nightmare after reading through all the spells.

>>48574419
When did 2hu become the guy to ask for PoW builds?

>>48574463
Since he keeps posting them, people assume he knows what he's talking about.

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>>48574099
>tfw you look into Pathfinder after coming from an actual system
Y'all fuckers need to get laid, for real.

>>48574463
>>48574509
I'm asking for an opinion, not a "Hey, rebuild me to be broken." If I wanted that, I'd have grabbed Hour Hand, minute hand, the triple strike of doom, and the Broken Shattered Mirror stance.

>>48574419
You forgot to mention it's E10 character with approximate feat gain of one per session.
Speaking of which, how does wealth work in E10? CRs above 13-14?

>>48574544
Why are you getting so defensive, bruh? Someone asked a question unrelated to your build and you're acting like we accused you of munchkinry.

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>>48574438
>Most of the husbando-ing was being done OOC, since he was just a oneshot character, but the other PC (unrelated tiefling wizard) in the oneshot was all over him.

What kind of husbando-ing are we talking about here, tongue-in-cheek fawning or genuine "oh wow this guy is hot."

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>>48574419

Before I get somewhat in-depth into suggesting revisions to this, is there anything in particular you are attempting to accomplish with this character?

Is there any reason in particular you are aiming for Riven Hourglass and Silver Crane in particular?
What exactly is a "switchscythe"? Are you allowed to use Weapon Master's Handbook custom weapons? If not, has your GM approved of the usage of scythes as "polearms"?
Does your character need to be a dual-talent human as opposed to, say, a tiefling with Pass for Human?
Is there any reason you are not taking any Intelligence social skill traits such as Clever Wordplay, Cunning Liar, or Student of Philosophy, or the Orator feat outright? (Orator is especially effective by 10th-level.)
Is there any reason why you are not spreading out your disciplines so as to acquire maneuvers that are useful outside of combat, such as Cursed Razor 4's Fetch's Wrath and Veiled Moon 3's Ghostwalk?

>>48574587
Good points. It's so ingrained to our group that I forget it some times.

We gain treasure beyond wealth by level, but nothing can be made that requires a CL higher than 11. As for CR, we routinely fight CR 19+ encounters, usually an initiator supported by a few casters and a bunch of mooks with Martial Training.

>>48574700
>If not, has your GM approved of the usage of scythes as "polearms"?

Literally only something that was brought up in one thread because because 'WELL WIKIPEDIA SAYS THEY ARE'.

Seriously, you'd piss off so many fewer people if you didn't try to shove shitty rule interpretations on us.

How strong would it be to give DSP's Astral Deva monster class Spheres casting instead of their SLAs?

>>48574438
I don't... How is Feeblemind hot? Like 90% of the other ones I could at least see, since stuff like Hold Person, Dominate, Charm X, Geas could be used for some weird fetish purpose.

But Feeblemind is a spell that turns the target hit into a literal gibbering retard.

>>48574805
>he's never heard of bimbofication

oh you sweet summer child

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>>48574700
Switchscythe is from Gnomes of Golarion. It's a collapsible scythe that springs out as a swift action (Free with Quickdraw, by our houserules, Quickdraw being on "the list").

Feats are worthless because we get one roughly every session, thus Dual Talent Human.

Probably gonna grab Orator in a feat or two.

Discipline choices and such are pretty much purely thematic, and will probably be expanded with Advanced Training later on.

And yes, we voted to have Scythes be considered polearms, because it's retarded that Paizo didn't make them polearms.

Her big thing right now is going to be mowing down useless enemies with the Sands of Time Tornado, using Dark Allure to debuff enemies.

>>48574689
I thought it was tongue-in-cheek at first, but every time the character came up I always heard positive things about them.

>>48574805
See: >>48574814
I don't get it either. I assume more of the infatuation comes from the general "dude enchantments lmao", not JUST that one instance of feebleminding. I hope.

>>48574841
Derp, and darting around annoyingly fast to frustrate enemies.

>>48574805
>But Feeblemind is a spell that turns the target hit into a literal gibbering retard.

>Turning the haughty lady-knight into a drooling idiot compelled by her basest urges

It's the ultimate degradation, and degradation is *hot*

>>48574814
Bimbofication is a bit above blithering retard though

>>48574814
Anon, the Int score is roughly equivalent to IQ, with an IQ of 100 and a score of 10 being the average. A "bimbo" would be a dumb person, so let's say an IQ of 70 (score of 7) for a low number, although that's borderline retardation. An IQ of 10 is lower than the average dog. That's not sexy, that's pathetic unless your party members get hot and bothered by someone who doesn't have the mental capacity to distinguish between their dinner and their own feces.

>>48574922

Are you sure? Because the extensive research I've done on the topic tends to show the average bimbo as a barely-functional human being that only exists to get their holes stuffed and love every second of it.

>>48574227

Cool; any advice for it, long term?

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>>48574544
>>48574700

Unfortunately, I am much better at suggesting ways for builds to be improved than I am at evaluating how strong and flexible any given build as currently presented is. If I had to give a gut assessment, I would say that the character is "passably optimized to a humble degree by Path of War: Expanded standards, and could certainly pull their weight in a battle" but that is a very vague evaluation.

Also, Minute Hand and Hour Hand are quite strong but not *egregious* like Mithral Current 5's Rapid Current is. You do not seem to have room for Mithral Current anyway, so it is a moot point.

I would not feel guilty at all for taking Minute Hand or Hour Hand.

What is this "Broken Shattered Mirror stance"?

>>48574736

The Weapon Master's Handbook would allow for the construction of a polearm scythe.

>>48574794

That depends on the precise parameters of the spherecasting (low, mid, or high caster; number of talents) and the character's level. The astral deva is perhaps a low tier 3 class as currently written, and it never quite receives any of the truly game-changing at-will spell-like abilities that the erinyes or the succubus eventually attain.

>>48574841

I see now. In that case, is there a reason you have a preference for a Dual Talent human over a tiefling with Pass for Human?

I would suggest taking Orator now (and rearranging your ability scores accordingly), as it will be a vast improvement to your character's noncombat utility.

Why exactly are you aiming for Dark Allure? That feat is intended for "tank"-oriented harbingers, and you do not seem especially invested in defense beyond stances.


I do think that if you wish for your character to be a smidge more useful, it would be worthwhile to try to acquire the more useful noncombat utility maneuvers such as Cursed Razor 4's Fetch's Wrath and Veiled Moon 3's Ghostwalk.

>>48574951
Ironically, bimbofication can be interpreted as a loss of Charisma. Because the victim is literally losing personality.

>>48574951
>>48574922

see

>>48574958
>>48574895

>>48574951

>Still, it knows who its friends are and can follow them and even protect them.

Feeble-minded is weird; although the creature can't cast spells they can communicate, albeit with a lot of difficulty.

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>>48574895
Anon, there's like a dozen other date rape spells you can do with the exact same effect that DON'T involve the target becoming incapable of passing the Harkness test.

>>48574736
Here's the thing. In actual war? A scythe is a polearm. In pathfinder? A scythe is not a polearm. Because these are two different scythe's.

Pathfinder's scythes, despite what the handbook says, are reaping scythes, the kind the Grim Reaper has, the kind you harvest wheat with, because it's cool and edgy and people like it.

Actual military scythes have the blade rotated 90 degrees, so they're more like a cut-rate bardiche. Because trying to use a reaping scythe in actual combat would get you fucking killed.

>>48575008
They can totally cast if they're Clerics though, so who knows how that works.

>>48575009
>there's like a dozen other date rape spells you can do with the exact same effect that DON'T involve the target becoming incapable of passing the Harkness test.

That's the point, anon.

Feeble-minded is hot because it *causes* the target to become incapable of passing the Harkness Test. It's not just immobilizing the victim, it's making the victim incapable of protecting itself in the first place.

The idea is turning the victim into a barely-coherent fuck-slut interested only in satisfying itself, which is of course a fantasy compared to reality, but YMMV depending on the campaign tone.

>>48574974
Dual Talent Human has no ability score penalty. Tiefling does, and also lacks the extra skillpoint per level.

I'll consider it, if I can fit it in. I might give up Weapon Group Adaptation for it, but that would see a small reduction in damage and save DCs of her Maneuvers (not that she has many).

With Dark Allure, part of her goal is to go in and keep hitting people with Claim every round, then play keep away with her 90 foot move speed, forcing them to either eat the penalty, or waste their action trying to chase after her.

I'll take a look at Fetch's Wrath and Ghostwalk. I suppose ghostwalk could be fluffed GOES FAST style (which is her thematics; goes fast, with a touch of holy magic). I'm actually not sure what Fetch's Wrath does, though.

>>48575060

Oh, forgot to add.

Notice how the people were getting turned on by an *ally* casting the spell, not some random enemy. See the little addition to Feeble-minded in >>48575008 that shows a feeble-minded character can still distinguish friend from foe.

That's what adds to the kink; you're not just a blithering retard, you're a happy and very loyal blithering retard that follows the party around and just "knows" they're trustworthy and have the victim's best interests in mind.

Scenarios aren't hard to imagine how this could turn very lewd, very fast. It's basically the ultimate expression of submission, which is based around giving up your ability to act to a dominant, trusting they have your best interests in mind.

So far I was thinking high casting but locked to specific Spheres, not entirely sure if it's the best idea.

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>>48575060
Anon if you want an unintelligent sex toy you can magic one up with fabricate or simulacrum. But whatever, I'm leaving this conversation before it starts interfering with my dinner. Y'all can have fun with your degraded knight or whatever that you have to train to shit outside.

>>48575111
Meant to reply to >>48574974

>>48575031
>Realism
>Pathfinder

Mugga, please. Please. Maybe in Rusty Dagger Shanktown that's appropriate, but not anywhere else.

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Questions regarding the Relic Channeler archetype for Medium:

It says that the Relic Channeler starts with a relic for all six spirits, but that choosing a spirit power and taboo lock those choices in. It also mentions that destroyed relics can be replaced via 500 gold per level. Does this mean that I absolutely should not channel spirits with good, higher-level spirit powers until I can pick them? And does replacing the relic mean I can potentially re-choose powers and taboos (albeit at exorbitant cost)? Could I potentially find another relic to get a "new" spirit with a different power and taboo?

I ask because the medium sounds vaguely interesting to me, but my GM is the sort who'd screw me over on channeling locations.

How do you deal with another player who will break character and try to invoke rules with ambiguous writing to ruin scenes, just because it was character development for someone else and not focused on them?

>>48575195
Tell Touhoufag to leave your game.

>>48575192
The Medium had "errata" of sorts, where as long as you can come up with an explanation for a certain spirit being somewhere you can channel it. Like saying that this one clearing you found is a place where X thief prepared himself for heists, or where X cleric found religion, or where X scholar went to meditate on his research.

Basically they backpedaled hard because they realized location-locked channeling is fucking dumb.

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>>48575092

>Dual Talent Human has no ability score penalty. Tiefling does
-2 Charisma is irrelevant for anyone with Orator.

>also lacks the extra skillpoint per level
Dual Talent forces a human to forsake this.

>Her big thing right now is going to be mowing down useless enemies with the Sands of Time Tornado, using Dark Allure to debuff enemies.

>With Dark Allure, part of her goal is to go in and keep hitting people with Claim every round, then play keep away with her 90 foot move speed
What is her method for disengaging without provoking attacks of opportunity?

>I'm actually not sure what Fetch's Wrath does, though.
Fetch's Wrath is a very long-range teleport that puts Veiled Moon to shame.

>>48575111

Depending on the specific spheres and how many talents the astral deva received, that would make a single-classed astral deva anywhere from a mid-tier 3 character to a very high tier 3 character.

>>48575191
I mean, that's my point, though. It's NOT realistic, and that's why Pathfinder's scythes aren't polearms. Because they're not based on actual weapons of war, they're based on looking like the Grim Reaper.

So I want all the defense. I'll be playing in a gestalt game at level 5 and am considering a halfling chosen one paladin + destined primalist urban blood rager making use of Fate's Favored. I will be focusing on two weapon fighting.

So that will give me familiar bonus to saves, divine grace, destined's luck bonus, halfling luck, bloodrage's bonuses, and superstitious. I will use bloodrage for dex/con to up them even more. In the end my saves will be VERY high. My AC is similarly very high. My offense however lacks as a consequence.

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>>48574895
>>48574958
>>48575060
>>48575108
>this is the kind of shit people think about

I just wanted to try a silly sorcerer build. Now I have to go put the sheet in the trash, burn it, and pretend this never happened.

>>48575195

Get an air horn. When they break character and try to pull shit off track, use it every time they try to speak until they shut up.

Or, you could do the actual mature thing and tell them that their constant interruptions are killing the scene, and that it's very rude to the other player(s) and they'll have plenty of opportunities for their own RP moments, so please just bear with it.

If they persist in ruining other people's scenes, drop a meteor on their character and tell the rest of the party the sight is so majestic and awe-inspiring that they all gain a level.

>>48575298
WELCOME TO /PFG/

Stick around and they'll ruin martials, casters, initiators, non-human races, humans and d20 systems for you too!

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>>48575236

So the availability of spirits is tied directly to my ability to reach for flimsy, bullshit justifications?

I have been preparing for this my entire life.

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>>48574419

>Time Thief's Talons
Why are you taking this when Silver Crane 5's Argent Knight's Banner is almost strictly superior?

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>>48575251
Aaaand another Houserule that we use. We just have Dual Talent Human give up the Bonus Feat for it, not the skillpoint. Didn't even know that was a houserule.

>What is her method for disengaging without provoking attacks of opportunity?
A very high acrobatics score, coupled with a tendency of the GM using cut from the air on the only creatures who would be a threat with their AOOs to cockblock the Archerspam.

>Fetch's Wrath is a very long-range teleport that puts Veiled Moon to shame.
Ooh, that's super neat. 10/10 will vanish in a cloud of rosepetals.

>>48575283
Mugga, a Monk's spade is a polearm. A fucking Nodachi is a polearm. Does the use of Pic Related look like a "Heavy Blade" to you, or a polearm?

>>48575333
Hey, they haven' t ruined Psionics yet!

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>>48575298

Don't let what other people get up to in the dark corners of the internet ruin something you like or think is fun. There will be very few good or fun things in your life if you do.

>>48575379
Paizo is really goddamn dumb.

>>48575379
Uh.. yeah, actually, it does. Notice how it's in close hand-to-hand range, and not like, six feet out?

>>48575390
>They haven't ruined psionics

...Cryptic exists.

>>48575251
So far I'm thinking Life, Fate, Light, Protection, Enhancement, and possibly Nature. Talent point progression would be +1 per level.

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>>48575379

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E2-s8weiulPoBQjdI05LBzOUToyoZIdSsLKxHAvf8F8/edit#gid=3
Think carefully about a CR 10 creature's average CMD of 32.2 before you decide to rely on Acrobatics to disengage from enemies.

Also, I had been erroneously listing down Fetch's Wrath as belonging to Cursed Razor, when it is actually a Shattered Mirror strike.

>>48575449

None of those are particularly problematic spheres, so a single talent per level should not cause any issues.

>>48575303
I tried that telling them that but they basically threw a tantrum until everyone gave up and started doing something else.

I'm also a player though.

The straw that broke the camels back was in my scene where the cowardly pacifist attacked my character because he did some sneaky spy business with an NPC and wouldn't accept that even if he wanted to turn it into combat it would be a surprise round because he failed his spellcraft and perceptions.

>>48572931
>usagimimi
Is this one of the new monster races or something? I haven't been able to keep up with that stuff.

>>48575509
It's not a race, just a term like nekomimi.

In this case rabbit instead of cat though.

Does the Powerful Build racial trait increase the damage of natural weapons the race has or gains through spells, powers, templates, etc?

>>48575535
No.

>>48575509
Yeah, one of the 3pp groups (Kobold Press?) put out a bunch of anime animalthing races. The fact that 'Moe' was in the title is all you really need to know about the release.

>>48575343
Don't have to charge to get it off, and I believe the damage actually multiplies on crit (which will make her Nat 20s silly). I also plan on grabbing AKB later on so the option exists, once I get a few feats.

>>48575416
That looks like the definition of the Polearm Dancer/Spear Dancing Style feats to me, mate.

>>48575499
Her modifier right now is 24 (Boots of S&S, which we've houseruled to apply to all acrobatics checks). Will be 30 once she grabs SF(Acro), which is an inevitability.

if i'm making a fifth or higher level spellcaster,
and have the craft magical arms and armour feat
can I pay only the crafting cost for any magic arms or armour i start with,
as i can safely assume i made them before the campaign

Hey /PFG/, is there a guide to the disruptive spells at higher levels and how to deal with them?

Things like blocking scrying into the BBEG's dreadfort by having the walls lined with lead, locking out extradimensional or teleporting invaders, etc and so forth?

>>48575597
Ask your GM.

>>48573136
So any thoughts friends? If not I'll retire these until I have a new update before posting again. Thank you all for your support!

>>48575608
cool, will do

Are the Godling classes from Rogue Genius Games as horribly overpowered as their names make them seem?
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/3rd-party-classes/super-genius-games/adept-godling
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/3rd-party-classes/super-genius-games/clever-godling
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/3rd-party-classes/super-genius-games/eldritch-godling
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/3rd-party-classes/super-genius-games/mighty-godling

>>48575607
Well I know most of the tricks. I've put a lot of thought into magical fortresses and post about it here occasionally. I can probably dig up the post. If not I'm on my phone and can post a full scope in an hour in so.

Warning it involves layering walls (layering walls is very important).

>>48575509

Sort of? A 3pp pdf came out a while back full of "kemonomimi" races-that is to say, people with animal ears. Pretty silly, but it wasn't terribly-written, and the art wasn't creepifying like some other 3pp stuff-overall, not bad if you're into that kind of thing.

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>>48575574

Argent Knight's Banner does not require a charge.

No strikes multiply their extra damage on a critical hit:

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/systems-and-use
>you do not multiply extra damage from a strike when calculating the critical hit damage

https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/46115668/#46127190
>Gareth
>Bonus damage from maneuvers isn't multiplied either. That may change during the errata depending on what ends up happening to the final damage totals, but ATM that's the breaks - even flat damage.

What I would personally recommend for maneuvers readied is:
5th-level: Argent Knight's Banner, Sands of Time Tornado
4th-level: Fetch's Wrath, Tip the Hourglass
3rd-level: Ghostwalk, Time Skitter

You will lack a counter, unfortunately, but it is not as though you will have much room for boosts and counters given your harbinger class features. You will have to rely on your high speed, Fetch's Wrath, and Ghostwalk to survive.

Acrobatics +24 is not good enough to be truly reliable (the risk-reward ratio is slanted poorly for you, considering the price of failure), and given that you are due two feats for Orator, Skill Focus in Acrobatics is still a ways away.

I would drop the attempt at kite-tanking. Besides, it will take a rather long time to build up an appreciable penalty with Dark Allure, and that and Grasp of Darkness are feats you might drop to make room for Orator.

>>48575574
>the definition of polearm dancer
>using a close-up weapon up close is the same as choking up on a spear
You may need to check your dictionary, son, because your definitions are retarded.

Perpendicular blades are HEAVY, and they are AWKWARD. You don't hold a scythe at centre and 3/4 up because you feel like it, you hold a scythe at centre and 3/4 up because otherwise, the blade is impossible to maneuver.

You see that one slash where she shifts her grip to the end momentarily and just barely manages to lay a cut on a guy like three feet from her before she has to take a proper grip again? That's about the best lunge you're gonna get out of a scythe, and in your fucking DREAMS is that a reach attack.

>>48575646
Neat! I'll look forward to it.

>>48575574
>That looks like the definition of the Polearm Dancer/Spear Dancing Style feats to me, mate.

Please explain further. Spear Dancing is about bludgeoning with the back end of a reach weapon. That's not a reach weapon by any definition of the term, and she doesn't bludgeon anybody with the haft.

>>48575797
>blade longer than the haft
>no edge whatsoever
Okay that's just a fancy greatclub, at this point.

>>48575407
I still want to play the character again, because I didn't really get to actually do much that was specific to the build. At the same time, though... Eehhhhh?

>>48575557
At least the art wasn't bad in that one compared to some... other art.

>>48575607
Thwarting teleportation is easy, just put a Teleport Trap down. If the attempted teleporter fails a will save they teleport into wherever you designate as the "dump zone", such as a spike pit, jail cell, acid pit, whatever. If they succeed the teleport just completely fizzles out.

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>>48575868
>tfw you will never play a koalamimi

>>48575429
Hey, screw you, Cryptic is awesome!

It's August now, and I want Paizo's Big Book of Spooks. Where's Q?

>>48575903
Cryptic WANTS to be awesome, but it's kind of trash. It does like six different things, none of them well.

>>48573392
roll20. Friends from roll20 inviting me to games.

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Well /pfg/ Imma buy some 2pp pdfs soon, most of them from DDS, to share the caps with all you fine anons.

So far I've got Enhancer's Guide, Illuminator's Guide, and the Luchador in my cart. Anything else you anons will want me to pick up and give you the free caps of?

> Talking to newbie about rogue and suggesting them to go for Investigator or Unchained Rogue instead
> My friend argue "Rogue doesn't have to be good in combat! They can do plenty of things in RP situation!"

I knew my friend is a scrub but this is too much for me...

>>48576249
Tell him RP is something everyone else is good at as well, and that Bard beats him out for both combat and RP/Utility

So fellas, if any of you have a Reddit account there's apparently an AMA for Horror Adventures that's going to go down tomorrow.

>>48576249

...But UCRogue is a straight upgrade-including where skills are concerned, thanks to unlocks. There's literally no reason not to play one over core rogue.

>>48575685
Huh. Text doesn't match the table. My bad.

I'd prefer Temporal Body Adjustment to Tip the Hourglass, to be honest. Replacing SDP with FW will work, though, and with AKB not needing a charge, that's unquestionably what should be taken.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/witch/archetypes/paizo---witch-archetypes/havocker-witch-archetype
How effective is this archetype if I were to use it with Kineticists of Porphyra?

First time dm here, is there some place where i can find a database of puzzles or something along those lines? Should i stop being a bitch and just make one myself? Im having trouble coming up with anything beyond "Answer a riddle to open this door" type shit.

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>>48575868
Childhood Adventures PDF when?

http://paizo.com/products/btpy9n2t?Childhood-Adventures
>Publisher's Note: Childhood Adventures includes a number of essays designed to help GMs address adult situations in Roleplaying Games. While these sections aren't graphic in presentation, they deal with mature content and as a result, parts of Childhood Adventures may not appropriate for younger readers. Parents are advised to read Childhood Adventures to formulate their own opinions before handing it off to a younger reader.

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>>48576360

Your dumped Wisdom will probably be your undoing sooner or later. I would dump Strength and Charisma into the ground, use Muleback Cords (and either Steelforge Book I's Corset of Resistance or Combating Christmas Trees for a resistance bonus), and keep Wisdom at 12.

>>48576566
There would be nothing wrong if this was geared towards players playing as young versions of their characters for the purposes of backstory or even flashback scenes. Maybe even playing scrappy street urchins trying to survive.

This whole thing just screams fetish bait.

So is the Path of War 1 errata just gonna nerf the disciplines to Mithril Current levels of broken?

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>>48576722
Friendly reminder that the "reverse age swap" picture shows a bulge with lines for the dick and balls on the kitsune who got turned from a kid into an adult.

Friendly reminder that Augunas is working on Paizo's upcoming Blood of the Beast, which is a "furry folk" book.

>>48576566
>>48576805

Kindly stop.

Ok, now for defending one's stronghold, The Munchkin Way.

First you need to thwart teleportation. This is the easiest endeavor. You simply need a permanent teleportation trap over the area you want to protect.
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/t/teleport-trap

The teleportation trap should lead into a cube filled with molten lava, which deals 20d6 damage per round. The cube should be surrounded by a thick Hardened Adamantine Shell, coated in lead. Hardness 25 is the minimum you should shoot for, the higher the better. The shell should be 2 inches thick for 80hp. This will mean they will have to deal a fair amount of damage while inside. Make it large enough to accommodate any necessary creature. Outside the lava cube you should have somewhere around 500 to 1000ft of stone (use teleport traps sunk into the ground to connect it to the area). If the creature is fire immune then you may be in trouble. We'll cover that after walls.

Walls need to be layered so they can not be seen through, scry'd through, moved through, or easily destroyed. We do this with a layering system as follows:
>Hardened Adamantine
>Water
>Hardened Steel
>Water
>Sheet of Lead
>Water
>Hardened Stone
>Water
>Hardened Wood
>Water
>Living Matter (use water plants)

The living matter is the inner most layer, do it now in reverse to the other side. These prevents see through stone, life sense, scry, scent, and most forms of destruction. The most dangerous form, a disintegrate ray, if foiled by the water, which constantly refiles with a decanter of endless water. The rays hit water, which is gushing out, and destroys it rather than the wall behind. Keep the decanters on fill blast. Each layer should have its own, keeping the system pressurized. Also, see through wall abilities (like the tiefling one), can't see through creatures. The center living matter is for that edge case.

1/2

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What was the most mechanically refined but otherwise terrible character you've ever seen? The type that could handle any encounter as long as it had a dice roll and could pull the entire party on their own unless it actually came to being more than a character sheet?

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>>48576891

https://www.patreon.com/jacobblackmon

>Jacob Blackmon is creating Art, Comics, and Erotica

Don't you want to at least support his KITSUNE EROTICA?

>>48576948
To be fair, most artists do porn of some kind. Hell, ElsbethAnon gave us the sweater-puppies a few months back.

>>48576939

You may have as much as 1 cu ft openings along the wall, as those can not be scry'd through and don't constitute line of effect. Use these as arrow slits. However since it is dangerous to have them there when not in use you must be able to add them to the wall. The easiest way is to have them be an adamantine box on the outside that you teleport to (using a password for your teleport trap).

The entire area should be sealed so the only way in or out would be to get teleported by the one owning the stronghold.

Also, you'll want to be mindblanked so people can't read your mind to get your password.


For fire immune creatures who teleport in and end up in the lava hole simply do the following; fill a small chamber outside the adamantine box with a powerful deadly inhaled poison. If they're also immune to poison remember nothing is immune to drugs.

Fill it with heroin.

>>48576436
Out of respect for me as a writer, please don't use my content with that terrible archetype.

>>48576977

Only after we bugged him for it.

And Jacob's got the kind of art that implies he's the weird, shitty kind of artist. The type that's stuck in their ways and won't ever get better.

>>48577018

You're the writer for the Porphyra content?

>>48577018
What's so bad about it?

What race is the OP's shota?

>>48576940
Eh, In my experience the ones who put the most effort in chargen tended to also be the most involved in RP and making sure there character contributed to the story and acting. Meanwhile the guy who just slapped stuff together had to be forced to RP.

So basically my situation has been this weird inverse of Stormwind

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>>48577018
Thank you for letting ANY class have Companion to the Lonely!

>>48577048
Chipmunk, judging by the pattern on the tail.

>>48577039
I'm the writer of the kineticists of porphyra line, and legendary kineticist, as well as the writer of the playtest currently being shilled in the OP. I don't write everything for Porphyra, just stuff with my name on it.

>>48577045
Rather than restate myself, I'm going to just link my post from Paizo about it.
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2su6f&page=44?Mastering-the-Elements-N-Jollys-guide-to-the#2154
>TL; DR It makes the witch into a worse blaster than just about anything else for basically no benefit.

>>48577102
That's Agro

She should be considerably stockier, though. Agro was a big horse.

>tfw no game
>tfw really wish I had a game
Life is sad

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>>48577125
>mfw finished SotC

>>48577094
But what race?

>>48577078
Some heroes don't wear capes. I do, but some don't.

>>48577147
Look on the bright side, no game is better than gaming with the disgusting wastes of oxygen that populate this thread.

>>48577179
Human, just with ears and a tail.

>>48577125
>Agro was a big horse.

For you.

>>48576566
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9m8O-7J5NM

This should be ban on sight

>>48577199
Agro is a cute horse, but also a pretty stocky one. Definitely a warhorse.

>>48576318
>plebbit

Fuck rather chop my dick off, well hope some anon autistic enough to highlight the good questions and clean the Paizo cocksucking.

>>48572856
why does every pathfinder thread have this gay ass anime shit

>>48577215

Agro was big where it counts.

>>48576940
Had a psywar in one of my games that could compete with anything the GM came up with, even intentionally overpowered GMPCs (that were triple gestalt made to compete with him) that the rest of the party had to roll a natural 20 to hit.

The character was literally the most generic protagonist from any piece of media and was roleplayed as boring as that sounds.

It was awful.

>>48575627
Look in the OP. They're in one of the tier lists.

>>48576566
>http://paizo.com/products/btpy9n2t?Childhood-Adventures
I've started playing a new game with my friends called "Is this fetish art or is this RPG art?" with Blackmon's art.

>We all lose with this game

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>>48577258
Well there is no rule that forbids anime and also weebs play rpg so guess what happened.

>>48575612
What's changed? I'll look it over, but can you give us the quick changelog?

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>>48577004

Truly, you are an amazing architect.

I need to start thinking where I'll get all that heroin.

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>>48577249

This look better?

>>48577292
what the hell does a weeb RP even look like?

they just talk to underage girls and give shitty one liners?

>>48576805
Additional friendly reminder that Augunas is responsible for Advanced Weapon Training / Advanced Armor Training. Broken clock is still right twice a day.

>>48577328
Believe it!

>>48577298
Yes. Those are much better proportions for a cute centaur Agro.

(I'd use it as Decataur art)

>>48577353
christ that'd turn me into an alcoholic by the end of the session

>>48577328

Big Eyes, Small Mouths, paisan. Also, Exalted.

>>48577328
Its just like a normal one, except with more speeches about Burning Spirit and Hearts of Justice and stuff like that. Maybe a few references to Devil May Cry.
Then again, the few weebs in my group are mostly the kind who prefer action stuff like Hokuto no Ken, G Gundam, and JoJo, instead of moeshit

Also, useful martials. You win some you lose some with the quality

>>48577276
Only two of them is.

>>48576939
>>48577004
How thick are these theoretical layers?
The cost of hardened adamantine seems like the limiting factor on the size of the building.

Since you don't want openings I'm imagining this as some kind of floating sphere or tower, with the teleportation trap keyed to a one way gate into a demiplane of molten lava and heroine gas.

>>48577345
Augunas was only ONE of the writers there.

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>>48577363
Would you play a blinkling with a decataur cohort?

>>48577496
He's also wrote a ton of great 3PP.

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>>48577510
Would you play a cute merboy?

>>48577529
Such as?

>>48577516
I'd rather play a Decataur with a Blinkling cohort. Decataur's a better fit for the types of characters I like to play, but Blinklings are a'ight and fit most of the stuff cohorts are good for (sneaky skill monkeys, crafting's something basically anyone can do, stuff like that)

About the only unique thing a Decataur has going for them as a cohort is that ART that makes their movespeed totally unaffected by encumbrance, allowing you to use a Decataur as an absurdly efficient packmule.

>>48577540
Boys are gross.

>>48575712
>All polearms must have reach, even though there is evidence to the contrary! (Halberd, Monk's Spade, Tiger Fork)
Fuck off

>>48577433
Monmusu a shit bro.
Its all a shit.
Monstergirls ave been ruined by the pleb normie haremfags.

Also, what>>48577462 said

>>48577541
Everyman Unchained Series
Everyman Archetype series
Mystic in Liber Influxus
Age of Electrotech
Pact magicUnbound
Psychological combat
Ultimate Charisma

He's generally pretty original. I think that recent release with Owen was actually a diss toward DSP.

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Anyone have experience with gun builds that aren't completely horrible? A friend has his heart set on them, and unlike Paizo, I'd prefer not to crush his dreams.

>>48578072
DSP allowed? Emerging guns, common guns, guns everywhere?

>>48578065
That's because Owens is a pissbaby who didn't like that he couldn't port Bastards & Bloodlines himself and instead sold the rights to it for making Bloodforge (which is why most of the races are really weird combinations, they're not DSP's original creations like the Akashic Camels are).

>>48578065
He must have gotten worse, since everyman options: kineticists was a straight up train wreck, as was Ultimate Occult.

>>48578095

DSP potentially allowed, but not a sure thing, and commonplace guns.

>>48578072
Dual revolvers on a slayer are not bad as long as guns everywhere is in effect.

>>48577999
It's not about having reach, it's about being able to strike with the striking end of a weapon. Have you ever LOOKED at a scythe? The edge is on the INSIDE. You cannot, cannot, CANNOT use it for basically ANYTHING a polearm is used for!

>>48578156
You aren't going to convince this person not to go with rule of cool. Maybe cool off a bit.

>>48577295
I added two archetypes Lore Master and Mutation Master.

I also added the Advanced Equipment Trainings:
>Mercenary's Intuition
>Friends In Low Places
>Mend the Broken
>Battlefield Medic

>>48578140
I know Ultimate Occult was a joint with Owen, who has a tendency to err on the side of caution and also may have wanted the book to fuck with DSP.

Based on the reviews and discussion for the Kineticist book it likely seems that he just missed the point of the Kineticist. Pretty easy considering how complex the class is. I'd judge the series on the next release whenever that is.

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>>48578144

The mystic (gunsmoke mystic) is probably the single most effective firearm-user in Dreamscarred Press Pathfinder, followed by the warlord (desperado) and then, for melee-centric firearms users, the stalker (privateer) and warlord (privateer).

In a Paizo-only environment, you should be looking at a barbarian (savage technologist) or an inquisitor of the Black Powder inquisition.

>>48577999
A harvest scythe is nothing like those. At its core, fighting using a polearm is about keeping your enemy as far away as possible, to press the advantage of your longer weapon (whether it's got reach or not, nobody's going to claim a halberd is shorter than a longsword.)

With its hooked blade, sharp on the inside, a harvest scythe requires your enemy to be close, close enough to hook the blade around so you can slice and leave room to disengage by extending it out, if you don't cut through cleanly.

If anything, a fighting with a harvest scythe is more like using a curved sword than a spear. It's not really like either of them, though.

>>48578231
As someone who both read the book and knows the kineticist...I doubt I'd allow EO:K at my table. It's just pretty busted with a very minimal understanding of the mechanics that make it work.

As an aside, archetype design for the vigilante is a MILLION times easier than archetype design for the kineticist, which requires all the moving parts to work.

>>48578212
I'm not arguing against the rule of cool. Scythes are cool. I like scythes. They're claiming there's realistic reasons for a scythe to be considered a polearm, citing a different kind of scythe and a gif of someone using a scythe in a non-polearm manner, and their claims are fucking bullshit on par with JJ's goddamn mouse cord.

>>48578274
Although I do know there's going to be another edit run of it, Alex and I talked about it together, and once it comes out, I probably would, as the changes he proposed were a large step up.

>>48578156
I never mentioned scythes, I was just replying to you saying that it was not a polearm due to reach.
And I do agree that scythes would be stupid weapons, they're farming tools. However, in my eyes, wouldn't they have the most transferrable skills with other polearms rather than heavy blades?

What was the site an anon here made that was basically a database of tier 3 stuff?

>>48578314
Oh also, I'm not RWBY anon. I started posting with >>48577999

>>48578233

Hm. Duly noted-thank you very much.

>>48578314
Ah, sorry.

No, they really wouldn't. Honestly, most polearm techniques would get you fucking killed if you tried them with a scythe. It would surpass "not useful", and plunge straight into "actively detrimental" in a way few other skills would. I'd probably say the most transferable skills would come from a scimitar or khopesh, though I've never handled the latter so I can't really speak to it.

>>48578402
I'm not anyone from this discussion before now, but depending on how sturdy it was, a sort of axe-ey, picklike motion might work? Catching them with the point?

>>48578402
That does seem to make sense, I shall bow to your wisdom on this one.

>>48578451
I could see it, though the blade shape is pretty piss-poor for it. You'd still have to try to catch them on the inward side of the point, or sharpen the outside edge too, and you're going to have a hell of a time extricating it without some pretty serious modifications to the blade. Modifications which basically end up with a vaguely scythe-shaped axe. Whether you want to call that still a scythe is up to you, at that point.

>>48578563
Honestly seems like a refluffed halberd or glaive maybe would be your best bet for rule of cool

>>48578597
Yeah, mechanics-wise, I'd definitely say a halberd is closest to what anon's after.

Or hell, just use a scythe with polearm dancing anyway. My only objection was to the claim that a scythe is rationally a polearm, when it's absolutely not; I don't give a shit if you treat it like one anyway. It's not like Pathfinder's a bastion of rational mechanics in the first place.

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>>48578144
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>>48578366

Dreamscarred Press Pathfinder also offers the cryptic (grammaton).

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed/classes/cryptic/archetypes/dreamscarred-press/grammaton

However, whether or not a grammaton can apply their Disrupt Pattern to all of their firearm attacks (like a Brutal Disruptor) is unclear, so the archetype's effectiveness is at the mercy of the GM.

There is also Dreamscarred Press's marksman (kaigun) archetype:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed/classes/marksman/archetypes/dreamscarred-press/kaigun
I believe this should be compatible with the marksman (mind's eye disciple) from Path of War: Expanded. You should, however, ask your GM to allow Wind Reader to stack with Favored Weapon (they are both competence bonuses), because they truly should. It is not as though this is a spectacularly strong class; both archetypes stacked together would still be outclassed by a mystic (gunsmoke mystic).

>>48578277
As RWBY Anon, Ruby's fighting style was the picture I had in my head of what Polearm Dancer/Spear Dancing style looked like. I'm not claiming it's realistic (I'm not sure who did), though I will admit that I had been thinking (possibly erroneously) that polearm would just mean "Weapon with a haft that isn't an axe" due to its inclusion of stuff like the Monk's spade and... well, not the Nodachi, that's just weird.

I want to make a setting based on early guns. Think Napoleonic wars, Sharpe's Rifles, that time period or a little before.

What buffs can I give to guns in general to make them worth it?

>>48578672

Well, pretty sure my friend and I can convince the GM to approve at least one of those. Anything else we should keep in mind?

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>>48578822

Misfires and a lack of native ability-modifier-to-damage-rolls are perhaps the greatest downfalls of firearms, but you may have already known as much.

>>48578799
Here's the thing, though. Mechanically, she's not doing what either of those feats represent, not in the slightest.

Polearm Dancer adds Dex to polearms. She's not finessing that thing, she's not aiming for weak points, she's swinging it around with raw muscle. Look at those impacts.

Spear Dancing Style uses both ends of the weapon. She's not. Go frame by frame, if you have to; every single one of those hits is with the blade.

In terms of Pathfinder mechanics, that's just a fullattack with a scythe. Very showy, but still a fullattack.

>>48578858

Yyyep. Just looking for workable options, and you've helped considerably with that, thank you.

>>48578928
>Very showy
Obviously an Intimidate build. I'd say we're looking at Cornugon Smash, maybe Killing Flourish.

>>48578928
Huh.

I have a completely wrong picture of how Dex fighters work then.

>>48579044
A decent example of a realistic dex fighter vs strength fighter match would imo be the fight between Gregor Clegane and Oberyn Martell from Game of Thrones season 4, episode 8. I'm certain there's a youtube video of it somewhere.

>>48579044
Finesse isn't about flashiness. Finesse is about precision. The STR fighter cuts your arm off. The DEX fighter stabs your tendon.

What monk should I be if I want to 1v1 people?

>>48579308
The arcane casting kind.

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https://app.roll20.net/forum/permalink/3758037/

Are all character creation threads for Roll20's "living world" campaigns such depraved hives with no quality standards whatsoever?

These applications hardly even pay attention to the setting or the character creation rules.

This one character is Yuuka Kazami from Touhou, a "youkai" actually named "Yuuka Kazami." She flagrantly ignores the setting and the character creation rules yet still manages to be a poorly optimized fighter. She was accepted nevertheless.

>>48579345
Arcane casters are gay though. I don't want to PvP people, I want to participate in fighting tournaments as my character arch/goal.

>>48579308
Tetori

>>48579392
Anon

If you see the words "Living Campaign" on something

You can be absolutely 100% assured that it is garbage beyond saving.

That Oustomia bullshit from a few weeks ago proved that pretty conclusively.

>>48579308
Unchained, if core only.

>>48579392
man are there any good roll20 games?

>>48576325
Some people think UCRogue is an unnecessary buff to the point of being OP.

Yup, those people exist.

>>48579116
But cutting someone arm off require precision too...

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What class/archetype is good for fighting evil and evil outsiders that ISN'T cleric or paladin?

>>48579461
>>48579396
I think I'm going to go with martial artist as the most thematically appropriate as long as it isn't shit.

I don't really care for doing any complicated manuever stuff, I just want to roll attack dice and do tons of damage.

>>48579392
>waaaah, someone's doing things I don't like on the internet!

The fuck we should care how some faggot runs his pretend games?

>>48579461
Unchained isn't core.

>>48579737
Only if you're a faggot. Ask your DM if Unchained is core for purposes of not sucking.

In my campaigns I replaced the base summoner spell list with the spell list from Unchained. The Eidolon changes are optional since sometimes the player may want one of the unique options.

>>48579797
I mean, it literally is not core. Core means the Core Rulebook. This is simply a matter of semantics.

>>48579855
No, it doesn't. In Pathfinder, Core refers to the Core line of products. The non-setting specific books. Ultimate books, Core, Advanced, those things. Not just the CRB.

>>48579882
Unless you're talking about a core-only game, which means just the CRB.

>>48579855
No, 'CRB only' means Core rule book only. In Paizo lingo "core" means mainline hardcovers only. Unchained is the exception because it's all optional rules.

>>48579905
>CRB-Only

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>>48579457
>That Oustomia bullshit from a few weeks ago proved that pretty conclusively.

>mfw I joined that campaign and got a night full of stock characters, anime sighs and pathetic whining about inner struggles

I just wanted to be a cool knight, not play psychiatrist to some Tiefling girl that feels like she let down her friends during some generic fight against wolves.

>>48579959
I joined it for a session, and got treated to a 'senior GM' thinking that throwing together a character that was level 5 and mythic, assorted other levels, and a level 1 plain orc barbarian was a good idea.

The encounter? Fifteen 'magic missile penguins', with fly speeds of over 60ft(perfect), automatic-hit melee attacks, and when they died, they exploded in an AoE of fire. Oh, and that was just the first wave. Then there were more, and a hidden wizard.

I left midway through the combat after it turned out that the two high level casters had 'happened' to prepare Shield, and were 100% immune to the fight, while all the newer people got assraped.

If you want a good laugh, go look through their characters: http://oustomiaworld.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Player_Characters

Extra points if you can spot the following: Rapebait loli, Enemy: Dad, falcon-punch abortion succubus, an awful kobold emo teen, and a remarkably cringey Drow.

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>>48579926
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>>48579905
>>48579882
Now I don't know what to believe.

>>48579959
All these stories make me want to join those games with an asshole character who couldn't give less of a fuck about the other pc's troubles.

>>48580047
Look in the Trove.

See that folder marked Core?

That's the Pathfinder Core.

>>48580031

>falcon-punch abortion succubus

Not going to lie, this one sounds awesome.

>>48580050
Step right up, anon.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/35053/oustomia-pathfinder-living-world

>>48580068
Don't forget, it also lists the weight of each tit.

http://oustomiaworld.wikia.com/wiki/Dee

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>>48579457
>If you see the words "Living Campaign" on something
>You can be absolutely 100% assured that it is garbage beyond saving.

I run a perfectly good sandbox game though.
Its set during a war between two rival kingdoms and the party are essentially 3rd party war profiteers, either as mercs, traders or other shady guys.

Every in-game week, I give a blow by blow event of rumors, hearsay and information the party parses through and act according to the information they receive. They could offer themselves as assassins, saboteurs, etc. or work independently, in order to prolong the war for their own pockets.

Its a pretty great game where I don't need to write a plot. Just adjust the events to suit the players' actions.

>>48580050
>All these stories make me want to join those games with an asshole character who couldn't give less of a fuck about the other pc's troubles.

The stories sound fun, but when you get into the session you realize it's every bit as bland as it seems to be.

I've joined no less than 5 Living Campaigns, and the longest I've lasted in one before leaving was one night. The people you meet there are not the types of people you'd want to just sit down and chat with, and their characters have about as much personality as a cardboard box, and are roleplayed just as well as one.

HOWEVER

One of the greatest troll classes to make for a Living Campaign is the Artisan, though it *only* works if the campaign allows player-crafting and making money off selling equipment. You want to see Living campaign players squirm? Make the weakest, daintiest master armorsmith imaginable and get in the face of the "tough badass" and demand they pay you what the item was worth. The roleplay in those scenes is incredible, you're practically baiting them to try and beat you up.

Bonus: Make the Artist an attractive MILF for maximum cringe.

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>>48580091
>Step right up

>>48580095
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_campaigns

Are you running a game like this?

>>48580120
No, not THAT autistic. But my game has run through two groups already.

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>>48580112
>Bonus: Make the Artist an attractive MILF for maximum cringe.

>Make a lovely woman for a Living Campaign
>Make her an Artisan
>Make her happily married at the start of the campaign with two children at home

Sweet Jesus that's just cruel, anon.

The only thing that would make it crueler is if the husband is played by another person from /pfg/ and is the ultimate DILF.

>>48580152
>But my game has run through two groups already.

Are you looking to make a third? Playing asshole war profiteers is exactly the type of thing I love.

>>48580152
Then it isn't a Living Campaign, and it's probably a perfectly fun and enjoyable game.

Oh, and as an extra bonus for people, read this: http://oustomiaworld.wikia.com/wiki/Roleplay_Points

Roleplay points, AKA "How hard did you suck the GM's cock", let you directly power yourself or other characters up.

My DM tried to run his first 5E campaign as something like a "Living Campaign," where he had about a dozen players and intended to set it up with a very loose plot so that people could just grab together a party when they were all free and get a session in. The result was way too much work for him out of game, and in game at least five different instances of "the world will soon be doomed."

But hey, at least we were all doing what our characters would do!

>>48580169
Go home and slam, and be a family man.

>>48578928
>Polearm Dancer adds Dex to polearms. She's not finessing that thing, she's not aiming for weak points, she's swinging it around with raw muscle. Look at those impacts.
But the scythe is moving fast, and fast equals Dexterity, everybody knows that!

>>48579590
Not especially. STR fighter cleaves right through your goddamn bones. STR fighter don't give a shit.

i want to join a living campaign with all of my /pfg/ buddies!!!!!!

>>48580169

>Happily married crafter couple
>Never leave town, always work or spend time together or with the kids
>Profits go towards supporting the family, occasionally buying something nice for birthdays or the like
>Start charging slightly more because they both want to secretly get each other an amazing anniversary gift

Fuck the campaign, we Harvest Moon now.

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>>48580331

I want to be the loving husband to one of my /pfg/ friends!

Hugs and cuddles and adorable missionary sex with my /pfg/ friends!

>>48580338
I will say that I played a harvest moon type living campaign once and it was pretty awful. The gms played favorites and gave neat things to the characters they shipped (ugh), there were a couple of characters made for the sole purpose of being disruptive and weren't reined in, and the games ran completely randomly and too bad if you weren't there when it was announced.

>>48580338

>Selling Crafted Items - Player Characters may freely sell mundane items for up to 60% of their market price(or 70% if you have the Merchant trait) that they craft. However, you are limited to 2000 gp a week in this way. in addition to the former, players may sell crafting items(Magic, Technological, magic-based alchemy, etc) of their choice that they have spent the time on once per month, up to a combined maximum of 8,000 GP a month.(IE: You crafted an item that has a market value of 1000 GP; it sells for 600. Then tomorrow you do the same, etc.)

>Crafting per Week - Mundane crafters now craft at a rate of 100xlevel(IE: A level 3 can do 300 a day!) gold pieces a day. Otherwise it would take several weeks to make things such as swords. Do note, this does not apply to technological or magical items. Tech and Magic items are not mundane.

Downtime is allowed, too.

Does anyone that PDF with the statblocks for the Sandpoint NPC's? I know it's out there somewhere but I can't find it anymore.

Can somebody tell me what the abilities you get from the Hive corruption are?

Best weapons for a privateer desperado Warlord?

What was the class you had most fun with? Bonus points if it was kind of terrible tier wise, and how was it fun?

>>48580187
>Playing asshole war profiteers is exactly the type of thing I love.

To be quite honest, I was assuming the players would choose a side in the conflict.

I never expected these assholes to take another option that involves them going full murderhobo.

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>>48580937
So far it's Guru. Nothing will beat my Spiderman style 200 ft drop Kiniku Buster on our naked super Dryad final boss.

As a DM I've really liked using Slayers since they're easy to build and do the thing they need to do.

>>48580963

What were the two countries offering that war dogging it could not?

>>48580926
A gun?

>>48580937
Questioner / Empiricist Investigator
Nevermind that they're incompatible due to Poison Lore (which my DM generously allowed.)

It was one of the most skillful of skillmonkeys. It had ranks in every knowledge and social skills and had the bard spell list at its disposal.

It was dual-wielding hand-crossbows too, which was awesome thanks to studied combat.

>>48581007
The assholes wanted absolutely nothing to do with playing politics unless they were the ones calling the shots.

>>48580937
RH Occultist homebrewed to use 3.5 vestiges or regular occultist. Both are fun. Also witches, but I've never been in a game that's lasted more than a few sessions when I played a witch.

What races besides halflings can get a racial bonus to saves?

>>48580250
Being entirely fair, Dexterity is often used as the speed stat both in and out of tabletop. Even in Pathfinder, it rules Initiative.

>>48581118
Just about everything if you're including racial bonuses against specific things.

Dwarves get +2 against poison, spells, and spell-likes, which is nice.

>>48581060

That's not what I was asking, I wanted to know what they could've gained from joining one of the kingdoms that simply contractual murderhobo could not provide.

Simply put, were there rewards beyond raw cash on the table?

>>48581161
I mean the generic +1 to saves stuff.

>>48581177
Yeah, lordship. They could have become knights with their own land, fiefdom, a standing army of their own and every perks it entails.

>>48581179
Ah.

Half-elves with Dual Minded get +2 on all will saving throws in exchange for giving up Adaptability, and let me keep looking.

>>48581179
>>48581247
Yeah, I'm not seeing anything that's straight up +1 to all saves.

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>>48580095
>>48581206
I'm actually planning to run a similar war, where the players are an irregular regiment of soldiers, but I am struggling on how to make both sides sympathetic.

Should I not bother and go full mercenary, start them out on one side as recruits and see how it goes, or what? I love war themed campaigns, but it is awful hard to play one sandbox.

>>48581145
Yeah, I know, that was part of my point. Honestly, trying to talk about realism has no place in a discussion about most tabletop games, since most tabletop games aren't trying to be realistic. If you want rules that attempt to mimic reality, play GURPS. Pathfinder is not that kind of game.

>>48581118
Half-orcs have an alternate racial feature for a +1 luck bonus to all saves, which can even be bumped up to a +2 with that one trait.

>>48581206
And why would they care about that when they could murderhobo the vanquished?

PF doesn't do kingdom management well at all, so it probably just sounded like more work to them, I'm guessing.

>>48581292
>Should I not bother and go full mercenary, start them out on one side as recruits and see how it goes, or what?
I'm a fan of starting them out as part of a smaller faction that isn't directly involved, but has a resource or position that would help one of the actual sides in the conflict gain a major advantage. That gives both the usual "Side A" or "Side B" choice, but also the "Tell them both to fuck off and leave us alone." choice.

As for making them both sympathetic, that's not that hard, but I'd need more details on the actual reasons behind the conflict to give any specific advice.

>>48581292
Put them in the middle of a neutral little town smack in the middle of the two warring factions.
Give the players the choice to pick a side, fight for peace, fight for profit or fight for conquest.

so is pathfinder for anime weebs or something??every thread is animu grill

>>48581297
They kinda regret one tiny thing that either sides of the conflicts have that they can't 'own'.

One side has a Steampunk Warhorses.
The other side has Wyvern Mounts.

>>48581347
This is 4chan, sempai. Everything is some flavor of animu.

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>>48581339
Interesting idea, but how would a neutral territory become involved in two warring nations? Not a civil war or anything here, a proper war. Some lesser lord for one side denied military aid raising his own army?

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>>48573215
I didn't do it at all on purpose, but I've realized I'm basically playing genderbent kneesocks
Just now realizing it after like 7 weeks of playing the character.

>Onispawn tiefling, with bright red skin and a single horn
DM made me roll a disguise check, someone remarked on the bright red skin, one of the other party members (whos like 14 and never seen any anime) said that I "blush easily" and we all rolled with it.
>inquisitor, faithful to his cause
>refuses to swear
both involved with a set of RULES that he follows, not because of his faith, but self imposed
>has a wonderful (little) sister who's an somewhat decent ranged character
Someone reminded me that I have a prehensile tail, and we had it be like a small devil tail that's deceptively longer than one would think
>has his own prayer/litany to enter full rape train mode, actually thought one up in a moment of sleep deprivation, but forgot to write it down
The DM actually had to change the toughness of the campaign once I came into my own with buff spells like prayer, litanies, and all the judgements/banes..

>>48581347
A combination of it being easy shitposting, one of the more prolific anons (Touhoufag) being recognized by his posting of ainme styled game characters, 4chan being a Korean clay working site, and most of the people who put up with Pathfinder's foibles are those who enjoy very high power, high fantasy of which anime and manga are the most prolific contemporary media containing such.

A lot of the standard fantasy folks went to OSR or 5th, since those games/movements (5e had a lot of OSR heads provide feedback) are much more amenable to standard fantasy.

>>48581406
That's just petty. Most nations are opportunistic fuckheads whenever a war happens. Everyone who is neutral will attempt to stick their fingers where the money is, either by selling war-relief, making business deals amounting to extortion, trade tariff revisions and so on.

>>48581406
Just as an example, there might be a fairly imposing bit of mountains between Side A and Side B, with a small valley nation being the easiest passage through them. Whichever side controls that valley has a major advantage in sending their troops into the other nation. The people in the valley need to decide whether to ally with one side and hope they can protect them against the other side, but they also need to weight which side will be the easiest to live with when they move their troops in. For example, maybe Side A is stronger and more likely to be able to protect the valley from Side B, but they also want a lot more in return for protecting the valley, or their troops are known for being unruly and will likely cause a lot of incidents with the people of the valley while they're stationed there. Side B will have less impact while they're stationed in the valley, but they lack the raw power and might not be able to keep Side A from stomping through.

Alternately, they can decide to resist both sides, using the protected location of their nation to help mitigate the fact that they're fighting two armies that are vastly more powerful. That's going to be a much tougher fight, but at the same time, if they pull it off they won't have to deal with being occupied by either nation. They might even have to find a way to play both major nations against each other just to survive... for example, one mission for the PC's might be to go and find a new passage through the mountains and "accidentally" let that information fall into one nation's hands, thus providing a new route for that nation to move their troops (removing the need to occupy the valley), while at the same time putting pressure on the other nation that forces them to divert some of the troops fighting the valley to deal with the attacks coming from the new passage.

>>48575607
Ultimate Intrigue had sections for early, middle and late play, as far as how DMs could deal with certain spells the PCs were using, and commonly misunderstood things about them. In some cases with higher level spells they more or less admitted you needed to find ways around it rather than countering it directly, such as Mindblank and the like.

>>48576446
If you do that, DM-to-be, please be flexible with your answers. If the party comes up with something that could work for the setting/theme of the puzzle but is just slightly off, don't let them sit there for three hours of real-life time just so you can say "It was 'trees', not 'a tree'" or something similar and have them want to fling a core book at you.

>>48574539
Every one needs to get laid. Why is that even an insult?

>>48581667
Because those of us who do it regularly don't spend all our time thinking about how to make dogs and hobbits fuck.

>>48581718
To be fair, the people here are more interested in fucking the underage offspring of dogs and hobbits.