I've not had the opportunity to incorporate mechs in any sort of game I've been a part of, which is a damn shame.

>>47602673
It really is

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RIP Ali

>>47602744
Oh shit. He died?

>>47602809
Within the past hour, yes.

>>47602809
Yep. He died at the age of 74 just a short while ago.

>>47602744
So would zombie Ali be a cool villain for a game or is it too soon?

>>47603088
Little too soon.

Does Cape World have any established mech heroes? I feel like Japan has a shit ton of them.

>>47603645
Japan has a bunch of mechs. You can also probably find something similar in Germany.

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Bumping with mech villains.

So this isn't directly related to Cape shit- but it's pretty close.

Basically I'm making a Sci-Fi or weird fantasy game with psychics. The kicker is each psychic only gets one power. I'm stealing most of the powers from Push, but I'd like some more ideas.

>>47605232
Is there any more details ? It sounds interesting

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>>47605232
This ought to help.

Anything new with Cape World stuff?

I know last thread there was a talk about a quest and more statesmen write ups

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>>47605242

The idea is each psychic gets a power that is useful for utility and light combat at low level, but character defining at higher levels. Not every character will get a power, but giving the extreme limitation of 'only one power' or essentially a super power version of it avoids the problem of Wizards being able to do whatever they want.

Some example powers include;
>Moving inanimate objects around (telekinesis)
>Stop or cancel an object's momentum(?)
>Moving yourself around and flight (autokinesis)
>Creating heat, light or electricity (Pyrokinesis)
>Can detect emotions, eventually including objects and locations
>Gets vague hints about the future
>Can shift forms
>Creates psychic illusions
>Inserts ideas or images into peoples minds (telepathy)
>Teleportation to anywhere you've been (Jumper?)
>Can control animals

Just to name a few. As you can see, many of these may just overlap with more generic super powers, not necessarily all of them are psychic focused.

>>47605463
Well an idea that my interesting is ability to read memories. The person can get glimpses of the person's past instead of the traditional mind reading

>>47605489

That's a pretty good one.

OH and you raised a good point. Basically I don't want any powers that are just direct and boring mind control. Something where someone can implant (or read) memories, or control dreams, or insert images into your mind, but nothing about actually directly controlling people. It's boring and always too strong to have as a power.

>>47605505
A couple other ideas before I go to sleep

Learning the history of an object through touch

Altering facial appearance

Nullify sound

Can I get some ideas for how to get a diverse group of heroes working together? My main idea is to throw them up against an obstacle that none of them can beat alone.

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>>47602271

Still working on things, but I started writing up a lot of stuff.
> The Tombs Troop
http://pastebin.com/G61BTy1Z

> The Neutrals
http://pastebin.com/MTK9Q8nd

Overall the Tombs Troop is America's first and main Super Spec Ops Unit, I am currrently finishing up the first generation of it.

The Neutrals are the unaligned people who are doing their own thing, and are perfect additions to spice up campaigns in regards of many areas.

Thoughts?

>>47605875

My idea of that was the Tombs Troop, but that is for some anchient history as well as being a campaign setting in Cape World.

A 3rd Party can really help, or one of that team has to make an offer and explain that they need to work together,

A crisis can be very good on its own.

>>47602271
Had an idea for a mildly autistic teek who did some time as a villain when he was off med for the schizophrenia.

The concept is blatantly stolen from a short story, but he gets talked down by the teamafter they plop a psychic inhibitor on his head, and they get him back on meds. a few years later he wants to make amends for his wrong doing and volunteers to join them.

Teek powers with a particular flavour. He creates telekinetic limbs and a shield to smashy smashy with.

He can also launch himself with a teek boosted leap (without the ability to properly land mind you)

Hides his identity behind a suit of mild power armour with a few life support functions built in. (Built by a retired member of the team that 'saved' him)

I played him a few times and he was fun. Challenging but fun. Rolled crits like nobodies business.

He has to keep the inhibitor on otherwise his schizophrenia goes into over drive and becomes too paranoid / hallucinatory to function as his psionics tweak out his mental illness.

Bump

>>47606304
That's pretty cool

>>47605875
Have their villains start teaming up to take them down. Like Master Brain in Teen Titans or the Masters of Evil in Marvel.

>>47608342
Thanks.

I put in a lot of effort to flesh out his rogues gallery and characterization including a way of speaking/acting that mimicked a buddy of mine who is a high functioning autistic software engineer.

joining us was a generic energy manipulator from the book who didn't have a name until I asked her what it was, and an alien, zombie, robot, demon who punched buildings in half and had been around since the dawn of time. Also no name.

His rogues included the people who used to manipulate him into setting up huge distractions to keep the capes busy while he occupied them, along with straight capes who didn't think he deserved a second chance.

Captain Ultimo being one of them. (Imagine superman as a hardline republican from the Bible Belt)

>>47605505
maybe something like just talking to them in their heads. you pull some sort of jimmy cricket "I'm your Conscience" type with that.

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>>47602271
no giant mechs in my setting yet but I do have plans for regular sized power amour that could become mechs at later date.
Trojan is the more famous power amour users in my setting but that's well into his hero career. before he got the amour he was more like a decker from shadow run with attack drones, hacking and a SMG as his "powers".
but after helping taking down the supervillain illuminati (long story, think Wanted but with less suck) he got a lot more resources and built his own power amour modeled after his supervillan father's arch enemy as a final fuck you to his dad.

other then him there's the new York team who are all power amour users funding by the us government, their amours are all based off animals as a bit of a shout out to FOXHOUND from metal gear.

Palefag reporting in, delays happened in the form of computer issues. Case 2 Sunday.

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>>47605489
I always dug Psychometry as a power.

Sensing the past through objects.

I swear there was an old Anime thing where that showed up... to psychometric people meet each other through touching some concrete a guy died in and found out how they were tied to it.

>>47610611
Is Psychometry in M&M 2nd?

>>47603645
BEYONDION is the Mazinger. The first piloted mech of Japan made in the late sixties. It plays up the "god or devil" aspect of Mazinger by being powered by its hot blooded pilot's ID. The pilot actually remains cool and level headed outside BEYONDION because all his emotions are being siphoned off by the machine.

Many fear that BEYONDION might proof as dangerous as the kaiju and enemy machines it fights. There's a big Oxygen Destroyer angle there.

Mostly he fights insane Japanese Scientist DR NIGHTMARE, the not-Doctor Hell. He's found a way to bind the kaiju coming from the STRANGE DIMENSION into mechanical shells and wants to use his army of NIGHTMARE SOLDIERS to conquer first Japan and then the world.

The NIGHTMARE SOLDIERS take their forms from the collective nightmares of Japan. So you have monsters based on fear of radiation, military occupation, pollution, etc.

>>47605412
I'm the guy that talked about the "Japan vs Kaiju" Quest and the guy doing Statesmen write ups. I've had a hard week, I wanted to get a couple written up but I"m still stuck on the last few bits of PITT FIGHTER. I'll pastebin him when I'm done and see about pastebinning the other two.

I'd still appreciate ideas for mechs and monsters quest though. Particularly mechs. I just have BEYONDION, CHANGE MAN (Getter), and MAN FROM LIGHT as heroes. A final roster of eight or so would be ideal for the quest. It'll allow the anons to divide up into two teams of four or four teams of two.

Tell me the most originial and interesting powers you've come up with gogogo

>>47605232
Push was a criminally underrated movie

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>>47611239
Use the sample mechs in here as a base. There's not-Mazinger (super), there's not-Gundam (real), and there's not-Big O.

>>47605875
Go with how Gardner Fox teamed up the Justice League. Starro shows up and then multiplies himself, and the League has to tackle his forms in pairs of two. This set up will allow you to develop how team mates interact one on one, and then bring them all together to defeat combined Starro,.

Can't go wrong with the classics anon.

>>47606103
Interesting bits of fluff. Ray gun kid sounds interesting. What's his story? I think a story hook could easily come out of what happened to his ray guns.

>>47611383
Actually, there's a not-Zaku in there. There's still a not-Mazinger. The other is a not-EVA, what with the strange origin and pilot feedback.

>>47611239
>>47611383
>>47611426
So let's go over the general mech archetypes.
>Mazinger
>Gundam
>EVA
>Getter/Voltron/Sentai
What else is there?

>>47611426
>Not EVA

Gonna REEEEE a little, but I think its more not-Raiden or RahXephon.


For "Cape World presents: Japan 1970" we got:

MAN FROM LIGHT, the not Ultraman who is very powerful and can use his powers to move monsters/people and erect protective energy bubbles, but runs on a timer.

BEYONDION: Single pilot shit kicker. Has incredibly destructive attacks but risks collateral damage.

CHANGE MAN: The not-getter based on Id, Ego, and Super ego. Its three forms give it great adaptability. Id is offensive based, Ego is defense based, and Super Ego is a balance. Its downside is that it isn't adapt at much else besides combat.

>>47611449
There does need to be a big 5-man combiner as well as a "combines with your soul" mech.

Any ideas?

Should there be a "big" Real Robot on the roster? I was considering making them more so the grunts the players would deploy to support the big guys and to handle CASPAK.

>>47611500
There has to be an almighty Real-type mech, the Gundam. If the Mazinger is a vulcan cannon, the Gundam is a sniper rifle. It has to be a single super-elite real mech with the mobility of a fucking mosquito that can rip shit wherever it goes.

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>>47611500
AGATHION was an idea I had earlier combining the "magic and sword" mech archetype with the "dangerous to use Shin Getter Zeoryhmer" archetype, but I think the Cape World equivalent of Ideon should take a powder from the quest and only show up perhaps as a late game cameo. Ideon/Zeorymer were eighties after all, right?

So Archtypes in need of representatives:

MAGIC AND SWORD MECH (Escaflowne, Dunbine, Ryu Knights, Broken Blade)

TEAM MECH (based on the Kabbalah/Chakra? 70's was big on incorporating spiritualism with science fiction, like with Star Wars and Battlestar Galactica)

REAL ROBOT PROTOTYPE (Military robot to end all military robots. Like a Gundam. A real powerful enough to hang with supers)

A MERGE WITH YOUR SOUL MECH (Raideen, Getter, EVAs)


And that makes seven. Any idea for an eight archetype? Any ideas for characters for the archetypes themselves?

Statesmen Guy here.

I've been thinking about our Specture/Ghost Rider figure GHOST O' JARONE. I think he's got a good gimmick brewing as hell's hitman. Unlike Ghost Rider or Spectre he's not big into shock and awe. He doesn't go all BEWARE SINNERS I HAVE COME. He's a professional. He gets his list and he checks names off that list. He tells his victims who his is and what hes here for and gets to work.

This approach also gives him a social life. I see him getting along with anti-heroes like MOUNTAIN LION and BUCKEYE. I thought about giving him a bar to run filled with souls of the damned and succubus and demons called FUGE (after the line O, Homo, Fugue from Faust)

I was thinking about Ghost doing his killing and sending souls to hell on the side. Statesmen aren't supposed to send people to hell, so he hides this fact from his teammates. They know he's powered by Hell, but Black Minister II is powered by an evil power source as well and he does alright.

I was thinking of having Brown Recluse suspicious of him, having a vague inkling he's doing stuff behind everyone's back. Ghost is fond of Black Minister II and sees him as someone to protect. He's a good guy, not like Ghost, and he doesn't want to see Black Minister II become as corrupt and dark as himself as he deals with his own infernal authority figure (his veil).

Is this a good direction for the character? I'd appreciate any feedback on these ideas for the character.

Also, how does Hell and Heaven work in Cape World or in Cape games in general? I see Hell being like the mob. They have their own business in managing and punishing souls, but they keep to themselves and those foolish enough to cut deals with them. They don't want to invade Earth or destroy anything. They're a business, not an army.

Good idea?

>>47612260
I can get behind Ghost o' Jarone as a hell-powered professional hitman with his own bar on the side.

As for managing heaven and hell, I'm of the opinion that hell still tries to reach out to those who could be reasonably tempted by its power. If a deal can be made, they'll find one. It's usually one of those "swear loyalty to me, and I'll save your life" deals you see all over the place, but you can also have a couple of agents who are simply keeping an eye on things in the real world. Those agents are exceptionally few and far between, mind you.

What would Hell think of that Purgatorium casino in Vegas?

>>47611619
How about an APC or tank-type hardware? When you need serious artillery fire and mobile base of operations, you can count on Vulcan No. 1 for bringing the big guns.

Are we using this as general cape/hero game discussion, or specific to homebrew projects? Because I have a storytime (Detail vs. Lee Harvey Oswald) and some advice I need, but I'll go to a different thread if we're just worldbuilding here.

>>47612731
This thread was formerly the Super Hero General, so go ahead and post whatever.

>>47612588
Hell would probably dig the Purgatorium. They aren't so big on blasphemy as Heaven. Sexy girls dressing up like red and green skinned succubus? Sounds like a good time for them. And free advertising.

I like the idea of Hell offering deals. Ghost might even have some authority to do so. He's a hitman, but if he finds someone that Hell might be interested in recruiting he could offer them a deal like he was offered. Could make for a potential PC origin. "I was a super villain until Ghost cut me a deal. Now I work for Hell".

>>47612701
Something like the Guntank from Gunam? Could be interesting. Maybe some sort of giant "mobile base" that spawns squadrons to perform actions. Think Macross City or Metroplex from Transformers, or the Helicarrier form SHIELD but with legs.

>>47612731
We're very liberal on what's allowed here. Go ahead and post it. Storytimes are welcomed.

>>47612745
It still basically is, it just switched names to avoid making the babies cry.

I still don't understand why they got so pissy over it being the Super Hero General.

>>47612785
>Maybe some sort of giant "mobile base" that spawns squadrons to perform actions. Think Macross City or Metroplex from Transformers, or the Helicarrier form SHIELD but with legs.
That kinda goes beyond "mech," but some supermassive mobile base would be neat somewhere.

>>47603088
>zombie
Pretty disrespectful.
Go all wuxia, undying practicitioner of martial arts.

>>47612833
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTZZk_WN4pQ

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>>47611619
ideas for characters (may not conform to one another)
>MAGIC AND SWORD MECH (Escaflowne, Dunbine, Ryu Knights, Broken Blade)
angels are very powerful beings, however due to ancient laws that both heaven and hell must obey their power on earth is limited to a few miracles and helpful words to mortals in need.
however a devil found a work around to this law. if he gives his power to a mortal and has them direct it the devil can use all their power on earth.
the devils began dealing with power hungry and debased mortals to have them act as "pilots".
the angels knowing that the earth is doomed if they do not act quickly, begin to make similar deals to courageous and heroic mortals until the loophole can be closed up.
the angel and evil "mechs" would look about what would you expect an angel or devil themed mech to look until they unleash their full power where they begin to look like a Angel from of Eva.

>TEAM MECH (based on the Kabbalah/Chakra? 70's was big on incorporating spiritualism with science fiction, like with Star Wars and Battlestar Galactica)
I don't quite know what that means but I'm assuming power rangers style mechs.
each ranger has a different power based off a body part (insert iron rod power joke here) when they make their robot they give said mech all the combined powers like say laser vision, super speed, super strength and other shit like that.

>REAL ROBOT PROTOTYPE (Military robot to end all military robots. Like a Gundam. A real powerful enough to hang with supers)
a big ugly looking thing that places more on practicality then style. controlled from a plane high above similarly to a drone.
as it becomes more powerful and advanced it starts looking cooler until it starts becoming more like a super robot then it does a real robot.

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>>47612989
>A MERGE WITH YOUR SOUL MECH (Raideen, Getter, EVAs)
while other shonen heroes were content with just making swords and other weapons out of mana, physic energy or breast milk or other such nonsense, little timmy thought big and decided that chicks dug giant robots.
cue the music!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koesW3xMKtY
>>47612588
they'll probably find it nice if a little tacky.
kind of like how a Irish person might feel if they went to a Irish bar in America.
>>47612731
go right on ahead, a storytime Is always welcome.
>>47612785
>I still don't understand why they got so pissy over it being the Super Hero General.
I can kind of get it. the cape world stuff can be a little intimidating if you have no clue whats going on and might scare off some people who just wanted some help with their own setting.

>>47612785
>>47612745

All right. Quick world introduction, storytime, and advice.

The year- 20XX. The place- Sentinel City, a shining beacon of hope on the East Coast of the United States. [It's a stand-in for DC and NYC, with some influences from the west coast.] The League that once kept the city safe from superpowered evil has gone into dormancy, its agents reclusive. As crime spikes across Sentinel City, a new generation of heroes steps up to the plate.

Our five-man-band is decidedly varied. Merrick "Horizon" Carson, the Welsh industrialist whose "Canary Call" sonic weapons were stolen by his protege, and who now wields gravity powers; Leonard "Solution" Driscoll, a psyker 38,000 years too early; "The Detail", an anonymous mob of thirty secret service agents who clone themselves and are all tied to one central leader; "Phage", heir to a long line of vampires... and a vegan loser; and "Venatrix", his fiancee with power over shadows.

Together, they fight crime.

I'm going to append my questions before storytime.
>I play Merrick. I'm Tony Stark-level paranoid about misuse of my technology. How can I best protect it, and keep surveillance up on the others at the same time? Trackers are obvious, failsafes to keep tech from being used on me are useful, but how can I go farther? I have limited resources on-hand, but I am a multimillionaire in charge of a cutting-edge company within the military-industrial complex, and I'm definitely in "superscience" territory.
>How can I get certain other players to open up a bit and develop their characters? Detail's entire schtick is anonymity, and Phage and Venatrix (same player, they're individually weaker than the other three) do pretty well about it, but I'm trying to crack the figurative nut of the less characterization-inclined characters. I guess that's a little more of a non-genre-specific question, but it's the more important one.

(1/?, storytime to follow)

>>47613137
>they'll probably find it nice if a little tacky.
>kind of like how a Irish person might feel if they went to a Irish bar in America.

>Oh COME ON. Cacodemons aren't THAT warty.

>>47613161
>How can I best protect it, and keep surveillance up on the others?

Lots of options here like you suggested. Never underestimate the power of political lobbying and patents. If they want to make your product they have to do it through your company. Does this violate anti-trust legislation? Probably. But so do many things in real life. And you're rich enough to have lobbyists.

You might not want to be that dark though. But hey, corporate power is effective power.

>How can I get other players to open up and develop their characters?

Put them in situations where they have to interact with just one other character. Like an old-fashioned Marvel Team-up. Nothing develops character like contrasts with another character, and sometimes characters might feel drowned out when the entire group is assembled.

>>47613161

And now, for SENTINEL CITY PATRONS Vol. 1: The Return of Lee Harvey Oswald! Featuring our dear heroes The Detail and Phage!

>Splash panel: Washington DC, midday, outside of Taco Bell. Mr. President's enjoying his burrito while Detail-Prime watches over him. All's peaceful in this nation's glorious capital.
>Until it isn't. The President spasms like he's been shot. Taco gore spatters the floor as Detail covers him. Detail spots him, up on the rooftop: Lee Harvey Oswald, reincarnated as a mutant. Clad in his best Sanders attire, and smiling from behind his aviators.
>He doesn't fire. Instead, a tablet appears. His voice echoes through tinny speakers. He prattles on about death to democracy and to America, and his plan- to assassinate the president with a specially-made gun, embedded inside his body. Its magic bullet will ricochet off his bones, perforating Mr. President and instantly killing him.
>The only way to save him is to confront Oswald within the building. It's a trap, an obvious trap- but Detail has no other option. It's the President, damnit!

>Across Washington DC, twenty-nine simultaneous suicides by cyanide pill make the news. In the Taco Bell parking lot, twenty-nine more Secret Service agents appear. The Detail is here. The regular human agents take the President off to the hospital as the clones arrive; Oswald flips the finger and vanishes into thin air. The agents start storming the building.

>As the Detail wipes out Oswald's thugs, casualties replenished almost as soon as they occur, Detail-Prime calls for backup. Phage, the neighborhood vampire.
>The thugs get wiped out in no time; they can't stand up to a human wave of black suits and sunglasses. Instead, an even worse threat presents itself.

>Puzzles.

>Force fields and acid, just the thing to keep a good clone-swarm down. Detail-Prime clears the way as the acid eats away his clones; they're disposable, but they can only last so long. At the center, in glass- a remote!
(2/?)

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Irish mummers and strawboys are creepy.

I don't know if there's like a character concept or anything there but they just give me that Wickerman feeling.

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>>47613314
I was actually looking more toward keeping my *teammates* under watch more than the wider world. Lawyers and lobbyists can handle Joe Public who wants my gravity gauntlets for the construction industry; they can't fight off an eight-foot-tall hulk trashing my lab. The team, on the other hand, is always much closer together.

Session 1 (which I'm storytiming) actually was one of those sessions, since only some of us were here, and session 2 only brought everyone together near the end. We've been kind of erratic.

>For the sake of the free world, Detail's clone army throws themselves upon the acid, building him a bridge to the remote- but to no avail, as the superacid eats the first agent away to a slurry in mere seconds.
>Plan B. Start throwing shit. The glass ball containing the remote gets knocked off its pedestal by a slick throw, rolling almost within arm's reach. With the noble sacrifice of yet another clone, the remote is theirs.
>Detail-Prime cracks the orb open, managing to circumvent the trap laid upon it and activate the remote. Forcefields lift, and the way is clear.
>Phage, ever late for the party, finally arrives, oblivious to the acid before being SPOOKED TO HELL by half-melted clones. As the Detail-clones ridicule Phage, he makes a horrific mistake- he trips the orb's trap by accident. Promptly resetting the room.
>Detail-clones, of course, have an escape route; Phage, who isn't even sure what's going on, doesn't. The Detail-clones self-terminate and regenerate from Detail-prime, while Phage is stuck with making a lucky move on the acid-trapped button. Thankfully, a success.

>Detail happens upon the strangest sight yet. A great shrine on the second floor, dedicated to revolutionary justice against capitalism. God damn you, Lee Harvey Oswald.
>"Curiously enough, the fireplace is a portrait of Bernie Sanders. His eyes are flames, and his mouth is the blazing inferno, hungry and waiting." Actual excerpt.
(3/? prob 4)

>>47613442
>Scattered around the shrine, artifacts of the Union. The slow realisation comes that this place is *priceless*.
>The Detail-clones start gathering up artifacts as Prime and Phage search for the remote.
>A clone checks inside the fireplace. He goes up in flames screaming "NOTHING!", but he did his job: two counters appear.
>Americans 1/30, Relics 0/20.

>Droves of clones dive in. The counter hits 30/30.
>Americans 30/40. The Relics counter starts blinking.

>Phage makes the ultimate sacrifice so Detail doesn't have to. Cheap-looking bald eagle statues get chucked into the fire, to no avail. But Detail has the solution: ten men, twenty relics, all at once.
>The horrifying pyre of burning American freedom burns bright as the President rings on the line. America will never die while Detail lives, and neither shall the President. Mark his words.
>The inferno roars. Death's flames swirl into a hammer and sickle, runes of power from the dark days of a defunct evil empire. In their place as they dissipate... two remotes. One blue, one red.
>Oswald speaks. The red button will save the president. The blue button will kill him... but it will kill Oswald, too, with the bullet that first ended his life.
>The here and now, or a brighter future.
>As Phage gets yelled at again for objecting to "fiend", Detail launches into a proper patriotic speech. He shall never back down, never compromise for FREEDOM!

>He pushes the red button.

>Oswald rips the gun from his chest and blasts the camera he's speaking through. "We will meet again."
>"God damn you, Lee Harvey Oswald."
>The relics are saved, and the President lives on. The only casualties on the RED BLOODED AMERICAN side are a couple unlucky maintenance workers, honored as heroes.

>Detail and Phage part ways, their job done. Mere days later, they get a call from Sentinel City, looking for heroes...

tl;dr my GM smokes way too much weed before we play.

>>47613591
Sounds like a fun GM to me.

>>47613852
He's great, honestly. Not able to run a session for a while, so I'm quite disappointed on that front, but for once I'm actually looking forward to a game. Haven't had that happen with RPGs before.

Does magic work well in a superhero setting?

>>47614487
Sure. I mean, Doctor Strange has been around since the sixties. It's not unprecedented.

>>47614576
Well I knew about him.... But I guess I meant in a more specific way....
Like... Could a superhero world also be one where everyone is magic and wizards?

>>47614487
Absolutely. If heroes can come from super science and from deific favor, why not magic?

>>47614632
you are describing my setting to a tee.
everyone on earth, post rainbow event, has some potential for magic with adepts being able to teach them styles. of Couse they can learn themselves with no help but it's fairly hard.
adepts are people who have magical styles preloaded into their brain and body giving them sort of a instinct towards that style, so a guy with the dragon shift style would find himself hoarding valuable things because that what his style needs to power itself.
these adepts would become the first of a new age of superheroes and villains.
course there are more traditional Lex Luthor type super science villains and other bad guys but that's due to reality rewriting bullshit then anything magic related.

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>>47614632

Depends on expanding magic out.

Their a couple of core concepts of getting power.

A. Learning It

B. Born With It

c. Making Deals For It

D. Things Grant You It

E. Swearing to a Power

So basically in D&D Terms

A Wizards

B Socerors

C Warlocks

D ?, Magic Item Powers

E Clerics and Paladins

I thought of a D Type Mage along the lines of Thor, which is Mother Russia, who use a Sword and Icon Banner as her main things.

Cape World is big enough, all Comic Book Universes really are for basically anything.

>>47602271
>http://pastebin.com/bU7vZFAN
Hey, can we add some more systems to the System Repository?

I've got Wild Talents:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/nf9fr6jt9040ffi/Wild_Talents_Core_Rulebook%2C_2nd_Essential_ed.pdf

and Champions Complete:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/tvul0v06qcfq605/Champions_Complete.pdf

>>47615126
I've also got Supers Revised floating around somewhere, but I'd have to track it down.

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so in a attempt to spark the tread back to life I ask you anons
have you ever or thought of playing a super hero game in a system not made for super heroes?
like using shadow run to and have the cyber limbs and magic act as superpowers or just run around with a mask and cape and fight evil mega corps and runners.
I think you could use the over watch setting for shadow run games fairly well givin how many people are cybered up in it .

>>47616088
It seems like it'd be a bit too much of a hassle but I could see it. I wouldn't mind using Werewolf: The Forsaken or Vampire: The Requiem to play Supers.

>>47612989
>Angel
Reminds me of an idea for a setting I had based on Elizabethan culture. Not-Europe is at religious war with each other (protestants vs Catholics basically), and angels and demons can become involved if they have a body to inhabit. So the countries struggle to build massive and ornate Cathedrals (playing on the meaning of the name, "seat of power"). The Cathedrals are mechs angels and demons can embody and power, and they're ran by monks and nuns that draw the angel or demon into the Cathedral body through constant contemplation and praise.

Think Faust and Paradise Lost but with big angels with stain glass wings and flaming limbs.

Maybe a Cathedral from this world "fell" into Tokyo? Make it Shin Megami Tensei esque. And things get worse when its followed by other Cathedrals.

Any idea for a cool angel mech name?

>Team Mech

I like this idea, it works well with the Chakra concept.

I want the mech to be versatile. Its not as much of a fighter as BEYONDION or CHANGE MAN but its capable of breaking down into individual machines that multi-task. Going to have to put some thought into this one...

>Real

I like the idea of it being a weakling at first that gradually upgrades. It reminds me of the learning computer and Amuro's arc in Gundam. Players will have to be careful with it at first, but if they train up the pilot and the mech it can become very powerful and very versatile, capable of switching out weapon systems to suit the task at hand.

>>47613137
Little Timmy is a kid with big imagination and an even bigger imaginary friend.

He can double as the "kid pilot" archetype like the Eldoran mechs. He pilots a giant shape shifting imaginary friend with potentially limitless power, but he's a kid. Sometimes he gets scared or distracted. If he's in danger his imaginary friend goes full EVA-01 to protect him and assumes direct control.

>>47611319
One of my characters had the power to turn into a were-battleship

>>47617168
How did that happen?

>>47616913
first off I like the angel idea off visuals alone and think that would be a awesome looking show.

>Any idea for a cool angel mech name?
I was think just go with their real names like Gabriel, Michael, Raphael that sort of stuff.

>I like the idea of it being a weakling at first
I pictured it not being weak but just slow with tons of guns on it. as the tech and pilot grows it becomes faster and more agile, standing on it own against super robots.

>Little Timmy is a kid with big imagination and an even bigger imaginary friend.
I was figuring him more as a teenager. one that just figured out that girls aren't icky and that their nice and soft.
I do like the imaginary friend angle though, maybe so maybe he's been piloting for a while and is just now going though puberty.
it used to be a simple giant robot but now he's adding "cooler and cooler" things to it as he grows up possibly to impress his best friends older sister who's into mecha anime?

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>>47618353
just to add something I forgot.
think of him less like shinji with his fucked up mommy issues and more like a teenaged Coop with a sex drive.

>>47617544
She was a tsukumogami, only she was a WWII-era battleship instead of an umbrella or something

>>47618481
I dig this idea. Badass kid on the cusp of manhood.

>>47618353
Maybe Abdiel? He was a big player in Paradise Lost but he's not as used as other big named angels.

Some ideas for the Heaven and Hell part of Cape World I'm looking for feedback for::

1.An angel of goodness and justice that possesses an evil supervillian. Sort of a twist on the "bad spirit inside a good man" theme. The conflict comes on whether or not the angel possessing this guy is moral or not. Can the party iron out an amicable sharing of the body? Could angelic possession be implemented as a kind of legal punishment? There can also be a plot line dealing with angelic possession. Sad, lonely, depressed people start to willingly give their bodies over to angels believing that all they can do is wast their lives. Is it moral for an angel to just take a body offered to them? Is it possible for two beings to share a single body? Can this arrangement be mutually beneficial?

Maybe Cape world heaven and hell are connected with the cathedral world from >>47618353
>>47616913

And angelic possession is a common occurrence in the Cathedral world that spreads to Earth through cultural exchange?

2. A group of demons that form the "All Saint's Club". They possess and empower super villians in exchange for their souls. They're considered outlaws from Hell. They're too loud. They're too destructive. They bring the angelic heat down on Hell. Ghost O' Jarone can be tasked to hunting them down. Its not easy. When he takes one soul down they have another soul contracted for them to jump into. But Ghost is slowly cornering them...

Each demon is Halloween themed. One transforms its host into a scarecrow grim reaper with a pumpkin head. One transforms its host into a brutal vampire-werewolf that controls blood. Another turns its host into a a cackling witch phantom. They consider themselves "saints" as part of blasphemy. They are the saint of evil, the saint of sin, the saint of crime, the saint of bloodshed, etc.

>>47619865
3. Cain, as the one who committed the first murder, is in charge of murder. Its his office. Its his mistake and he has to fix it. He's the mythological bad seed. The one that despoils paradise. He's Loki. He's the serpent in the garden of Eden. He's Set. He's the first murderer, and the blood is still wet on his hands.

He reaches across the spiritual Earth into physical Earth to empower followers of Cain to police murder. He has many forms, and many attitudes like all gods. Sometimes he empowers Ghost Rider and Spectre capes to brutally dispatch murderers. Sometimes he empowers protectors that exist to protect and reform killers, protecting them with his mark. Sometimes he creates healers to deal with the fallout of murder.

Each one of them has power having to deal with his mark. Either as an offensive power (I marked this guy and will track him to the ends of the Earth!) or as a defensive power (I place my mark on you. Now the assassin cannot harm you).

I think the CHURCH OF CAIN could be an interesting establishment in Cape World. Storylines with them could help intro PCs into the Spiritual side of Cape World with stories that still grounded in Earthly affairs. "Church goer" could also be a Cape World "class" like Kellymen and Arthurian Knight.

Any ideas for cool names for "offices" of the Church of Cain? Like Hunter, Protector, Healer, etc?

>>47619945
"The Church of Cain" would face a lot of barrier in the form of the basic principles implemented in normal Christian faith, which would lead me to believe it would come about in the 60's IRL due to the shift from established religion or the 90's accounting for comic eras. I could see it being a source of the good old-fashioned paladins and clerics, as well as a group with good intentions and a negative social stigma (ha).

I'd say that naming each office after a patron saint would be an interesting flavor for it. Georgians for hunting monsters, Cosmasians for healers, Nonnatusians as sort of legal aide to support those falsely accused of murder, etc.

Bunp

>>47619380
Why doesn't Princess wear a mask?

>>47623834
Because she doesn't have to. She has a 1-point Feature that says that for whatever inexplicable reason, no one can connect Princess's hero persona with her civilian persona. The Hero's Handbook writeup on Princess even specifically remarks on this.
>Julia asks the Gamemaster about one more advantage: she wants Princess to have a secret identity, but not to have to wear a mask. She and the GM agree that stretches even the normal comic credulity a bit without some sort of explanation. Julia suggests that Princess just has a “quality” about her that keeps people from realizing she and “Jessica Prentiss” are one and the same. The GM agrees, but says that it should be a Feature effect (see page 192) rather than a Benefit advantage in that case. That’s a 1-rank Feature for 1 more power point worth of powers.
Only her boyfriend is the one who can connect the two, and that's because he was there when she became powered.
>Looking at Complications, Julia decides Princess has a boyfriend who was present when she gained her powers and therefore knows her secret identity. He’s also the one person able to see through her “guise.” He sometimes tries to help out, but can also get into trouble.

>>47619865
>1.An angel of goodness and justice that possesses an evil supervillian. Sort of a twist on the "bad spirit inside a good man" theme.
I think this thread actually made a joke character revolving around exactly that concept: an Italian mob hitman compelled against his will to do good deeds when someone asks for help.

>>47619945
>[Cain is] the serpent in the garden of Eden.
The serpent specifically predates Cain.

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>>47605489
Mind Programming!

The user can set any kind of trigger, and when the trigger is activated, the target does something, like a reflex. Like for example, if someone gets close to you on purpose, you instinctively push them away or something.

You could program yourself to instantly know what to do in a dangerous situation, not to mention all the neat stuff you could make others do.

Potentially, you could learn self-defense techniques without actually getting off the computer.

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>>47624294
That's a staple in the superspy business. Sometimes, when preparing to go deep under cover, an agent undergoes hypnosis where upon repeating a certain memetic line, their psyche will be fully subsumed in that fake persona. This is for when their cover is potentially blown and are about to be captured, so that they can protect their identity until they can rescue themselves or someone else can rescue them and break the hypnosis.

It's also a major component for terrorist sleeper cells. Flip the switch, and you've got a long-trained insurrectionist or assassin on hand to do whatever.

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What kind of aliums do you have in your setting?

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>>47625379
Well in mine I have the Rao, a race of bird like xenomorphs as in a xenomorphs with a beak and feathers.
Due to a quirk in their biology they can get superpowers really easily though the usual comic book methods like radioactive bug bites, cosmic rays or just being born with it, which everywhere else in the universe tends to kill people.

The heroes there tend to be fairly self-centred and rarely consider the consequences of their actions on the wider scale, devastating whole countries and even planets in their constant fighting with one another.
The non-powered population of the planet lives in fear of the super population who they can rarely tell if they a hero or villain anymore and of their own governments which are performing increasingly more and more horrible acts in their attempts to control the supers.

They're kind of my satire/everything I hate about the big two, admittedly mostly marvel.
anyone want to hear about how they all died out?

>>47626161
By all means.

>>47621136
It could have always been active in the background gnostics style, growing whenever Christianity started to diversity like during the Reformation, the Renaissance, the rise of Deism, etc. It didn't go big and public until the 60's though (which neatly coincides with the wave of demon movies in real life like The Exorcist and The Omen)

I love the idea of the offices being named after patron saints. Really cool.

>>47624241
True, but if all myths are true then there's bound to be weird contradictions like this. Just chalk it up to the stories working differently than the actual "reality" of the situation or spiritual beings stuck in cycles that reflect previous cycles.

>>47626161
>The heroes there tend to be fairly self-centred and rarely consider the consequences of their actions on the wider scale, devastating whole countries and even planets in their constant fighting with one another.
>The non-powered population of the planet lives in fear of the super population who they can rarely tell if they a hero or villain anymore

Honestly, alien bird kingdom come reenactors sounds pretty fun actually

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>>47626530
huh hadn't even thought of that when I was making them, I've got to keep that in mind.
>>47626301
part 1/?
as mentioned above a lot of the "heroes" on Rao (the planet and the race share the same name because I'm not good at coming up with names.) where dicks. However there was one of them was everything a hero should be brave, kind, strong and always looked out for the little guy this heroes name was Star head.

Star head was once a simple astronomer, staring out into the depths of space and wishing for a world where people didn't have to live in fear.

One day he found a strange constellation that didn't appear on any star maps they ever made, however when he tried to report it to his bosses it had disappeared. No matter how hard he tried he could not get what he saw out of his head so decided to draw it, but when he drew the final line a flash came and his world changed.

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>>47626718
part 2/?
Where once was a simple meek astronomer was now a demigod wrapped in Rao flesh. He was faster than a speeding comet, more powerful than a crashing asteroid, able to leap and fly over tall buildings in a single bound, and he was Starhead. He began helping his world in greater ways then his fellow heroes had ever done.

He fed the hungry, he gave homes to the homeless, he brought law and order back into to their lives. Rao kind finally got the breather they needed and began to advance incredibly quickly, there where even talks about colonizing a whole new solar system in the next decade, and they all owed it to Starhead. some even began to worship him as a messiah or a god that came down to earth, oh how right they were.

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>>47626902
part 3/?
While his transform was great and powerful, it was also temporary. Lasting only a few hours until he had to change back. Not only that but those great deeds he had done took time and care which took away from his life as a normal being, he had even missed the death of his father and mother and his friends began to drift away from him.

He began to spend more and more time as star head, spending only the few seconds it took to draw the constellation as a mortal before he changed back.

The stress of being a entire worlds hero with not even a change to rest or someone to talk to about his own problems began to wear him down, until he heard the voice.
it told him that he could become Star head permanently if he craved the sigil into his own body. using a twisted knife that if he was in his right mind would have questioned why he owned and a mirror, he craved what was for many a symbol of hope into his skull and began the end of Rao.

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I know this is a little late to ask but is anyone enjoying this? I hope I'm not shitting up the thread.
>>47627270
part 4/5
What star head once thought was a constellation was in reality the key to a prison for things cast out from the universe and they wanted out. They gave Star head their power in order to fulfill a ritual for their release. They needed to plunge a world to the darkest of despair and bathe their avatar in the blood of its last son, and what greater despair could be found then the founder of a golden age destroying all he had built?

What happened next were seven days and six night of hope being absolutely destroyed. Those who tried to fight back died, those who tried to bargain died even harder and those who chose to lie down and give up were stung up, brutalized and kept alive for all to see.

>>47627735
I think it's interesting.

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>>47627735
part 5/ 5

However, not all died that day. Mr. amazing, a known power supremacist and super genius had a change of heart and tried to save as many as he could by sending pockets of his species away into space with his new born son being sent to a "friend" out in the reaches of space. in the final moments of his world he fought off Star head with all he had until the last rockets could be sent off.

Star head had done it he had killed a entire world but he couldn't complete his ritual as soon as he had hoped. So he turned his attention to the wrecked world and began to build his own ship and army to hunt down the last son as well as the other remnants of Rao.

The remnants became space gypsies, constantly on the run from their pursuer and mistrust full of any and all super beings no matter how friendly they seemed.

As for the last son? He landed on a little blue planet named Earth.

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How do you handle edgey characters?

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Posting from mobile, my computer just died so I need to get another set up over the next week after work. That puts a bit of an odd wrench in the works, so to make up for the lack of Case this week the next one will be a double feature.

June 18th will see the release of File 2 (July 4, 1923) and File 3 (April 13, 1935), set in New York and Oklahoma respectively.

>>47629567
Depends on how straight they're played and how seriously the universe takes them.

Somewhat inspired by the star head stuff above, what is the baddest dude your group has ever gone up against?

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>>47631370
Oddly enough, the one superhero campiagn I was a part of, one of the baddest dudes was on our side. She was known as the Bog Witch, a Louisiana voodoo queen with lots of magic available to her and a fancy for bugs. She was effectively our immediate superior. She was assassinated by a sniper, only to appear again several sessions later in a cave like nothing happened. Unfortunately, that's when the campaign ended.

Pic was the character's overall style.

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>>47618481
I can dig this myself.

Honestly I feel bad for not being particularly active.

Any anons want any art or have ideas for art requests or what?

>>47633716
Can we get a few generic "hero poses?" I'm trying to find that image of the convention panel where a bunch of old guys show off what their comic book cover pose would be.

>>47633716
could I have a pic of a little timmy and his mech?
>>47618353
>>47618481
for Timmy I sort of pictured him looking like a mix of shinji from evangelion and Coop from Megas xlr with a little bit of acne.
as for the mech just go with what ever you think a teenager would find "cool" in a giant robot.

>>47634020
Will do. I'll need to catch up on the thread to sort out their appearance.

I've been meaning to do some Giant Robots for a while.
>>47633934
Generic poses without any detail? Or specific characters in generic hero poses?

>>47633716
Junior Generals hanging out like teenagers

>>47634484
Your choice.

>>47623834
Because it was taken off, which was extremely painful

>>47636039
But she seems like a big girl

>>47636059
beep beep this is the meme police motherfucker where's your baneposting license?

So no one wants to take another crack at a Cape World Quest?

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>>47634649
Is there a pastebin of the Juniors?

Remind me who was on it?

Tesla,
Viperstrike
Blitz
Monk Kid
Robot Girl
Trinity

who's the criminal, the brain, the princess, the athlete, and the basketcase?

>>47637387
last I heard the guy who did the last quest was still in the planning stages. if you want to start one your more then welcome to.

>>47637657
>Tesla
Princess
>Viperstrike
Criminal
>Blitz
Athelete
>Monk Kid
???
>Robot Girl
the Brain
>Trinity
Basketcase(?)

>>47637835
>>47637657
Aria was the robot girls name

I can't remember the arrogant Monk Kid's name

all i know was that he was supposed to be arrogent.

and that his power set replaced another character by vague coincidence.

>>47637883
>Aria was the robot girls name
AI's name, if you're going to be specific. She's an AI with an android chassis.

>>47637914
so she can be the principal?

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>>47634649
Google searching "Teenagers" yields interesting results.

Anyone read the Umbrella Academy by any chance? been meaning to give it a looksy, and wanted to know if it was any good.

Aight mates. Here's some ideas I've been working on for my setting and I would like some feedback.
Not sure if it fits with the greater worldbuilding in here, but if you want to use it you can.

Ki and Martial Arts: When does a martial artist goes from badass normal to superhuman
OR
What is the difference between Batman, Iron Fist and Karate Kid, and how to interface anime into capeshit

What's Ki?
In my setting I explain powers in general as coming from a single energy source that pervades everything, sort of like the Force. If you manipulate that force directly you have the power cosmic, godhood, or high level magic. If you can interact with it through ritual movements and language, like computer programs of the universe that's magic. If you channel it through your body because of genes, either because of evolution or genetic damage, you're a mutant or meta, possibly an alien. Channeling it through scientific means creates superscience. Finally channeling through phisical training and spiritual enlightnement is called ki (chi, chakra, haki, reiki, cosmos, nen, banana fana fo fana)

There are two major types of ki using Baseline Ki and Focused Ki.

Baseline Ki is something that can be reached simply by being close to phisical peak performance and being focused in a goal, usually danger or bloodlust, but can be reached by competitiveness, anger, or fear. This is used subconsciously and considered as just part of being 'peak human'. Champion boxers use it to punch harder and absorb blows, parkour runners and acrobats use it to lighten their weight and reinforce their traction and grip, ninjas use it to make them stealthier. This is where Batman and Shang Chi fall. So does Karate Kid, but his futuristic baseline is higher than present baseline and his high human peak is higer too, meaning that, compared to a present day martial artist he is superhuman using superhuman levels of ki, but in the future setting he is just a peak human.

(Cont.)

>>47605232
Grimnoir Chronicles by Larry Correia is a magic setting where everyone has one power and a name for people with that power like Push. A Heavy for instance can control gravity.

Shadow Ops series also has a similar setup with power categories and stuff. Sure they are both magic but they can probably give you some ideas where to take the setting.

>>47638175
They're expressions sell it for me.

>>47638612
Focused Ki is learning to grow, channel and consciously use this energy. It involves special exercise routines and intense meditation training, to a point it may detract from learning pure martial arts or other abilities, explaining why characters like Shang Chi, who should be able to learn it, eschew it. Focused Ki requires conscious thought, but can be trained to a reflexive level.

Focused Ki, also called Ki manipulation can do things from increasing strenght, speed and toughness, to true superhuman levels, to shooting energy balls, controlling weapons with touch telekinesis, sensing abilities, controlling elements, flight and even more esoteric stuff that borders, and even becomes, actual magic.

The diference in training regimen would explain why someone like Iron Fist, who can punch through tank armor, is not the greatest martial artist, and has a good chance of losing against Shang Chi who spent all his training in becoming the Master of Kung Fu.

This theory is also useful in unifying anime-style powers. Naruto is a misture of Focused Ki and Spellcasting, with Rock Lee having to stick to pushing Baseline Ki to it's limits. One Piece actually shows Sanji and Zoro going from Baseline Ki, to learning the basics of focused Ki by theselves (Flambe Shot, 36 Pound Cannon) and then learning more from training. It also shows Luffy learning to use Focused Ki directly on top of his mutate powers. Kenshin from Samurai X is pure baseline Ki, a lot of Ki and really well honed, but to a scan that shows metahumans he would appear as normal, as a peak human, despite being able to do bullshit that is by any definition superhuman. So would Samurai Jack. Goku and Kenshiro meanwhile are Focused Ki users and would register as metahumans. This even works with DBZ style scanners who only detected powerlevels when Ki is being actively channeled. Goku would sense that Shang Chi and Iron Fist have some level of Ki, but a scouter would only notice Iron Fist.

>>47639082
Why are you asking me to sell it for you, and what do you mean "they are expressions"? What does that even mean?

>>47639206
This all is basically my in-universe explanation for stuff like Hawkeye being able to survive being thrown through a wall or Batman being able to heal from things that would cripple normal people and the fact that a completely human martial artist character from Batman to Samurai Jack, can have an attack or defense value higher than someone that is superpowered.

>>47639206
>>47639358
I think I'm going to steal that
If my players ever let me run a game

>>47639399
Best type of feedback I can read. Thanks.

For tomorrow I'm thinking on doing my explanation on how superscience exists in my setting and why it doesn't change the world. Or maybe start on why the old gods and mythology start appearing despite no appearances in the last 2 or 3 thousand years.

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>>47611619
I'd argue for a sort of "Brawler"/"gadget" mech type.

Big O and Johnny Sokko's Giant Robot are the only ones that really come to mind for that.

They're both big brawling robots with a ton of gadgets.

O Thunder
Missle fingers
Lazer forehead
Rocket Boots
Shield arms
Spinny fists.

>>47640288

Git Gud Ultra Scrub.

>>47640288
I always forget that he's a character that exists

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>>47612588
I quite like Jarone.

What are some good plot hooks to start a game?

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>>47618481
Sketched something vaguely inspired by young coop.
The Robot is a bit of... Heroman by way of some Giant Robo.

There was an old Giant Mecha Design I have floating around somewhere.

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>>47611348
my nigga
its one of my annual rewatches

>that moody neon hong kong aesthetic

>>47639654
Do the superscience one

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>>47639654
Seconding for super science

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>>47646025
you know, I loved The Incredibles movie but god damn do I hate what it did for costume designs and how the pubic sees them.
now when ever someone sees a cape they go "that's dumb and unrealistic" and now barely any new characters get made with capes anymore.

>>47646628
It's fine as long as it's tear-away. Well, or if you're invincible.

>>47646628
Yes, people have taste now.

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>>47646628
>>47646705
>>47646718
well speaking of costumes, what's the general "look" of your setting.
personally I like to go for a mix of realistic and fantastic with as many capes as I can get away with, because they are awesome.
something similar to pic, just the right amount of real to make you think it might work but mostly still comic booky.

>>47646628
Capes are god tier when use right.

I've always had a soft spot for capes that have a function though. Like how Superman's is super durable and can wrap around and protect people, or how Batman can ninja-glide with his, or how Spawn's cape is alive.

I always wanted a super whose power was just having a super-cape. Sort of like that one Grant Morrison Action Comics issue where a kid steals superman's cape and it ends up helping him out when he goes up against criminals.

>>47640926
>>47640692
Awesome!

>>47640805
It depend on the tone and theme of the game. Are we talking dark Midnight Sons characters? Silver Age justice league? Low level Marvel Knights?

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The Statesmen PITT FIGHTER's super comprehensive write up is now finished. Includes biography, notes on relationship and personality, story hooks, and notes on how the GM can use him in a campaign.

I'll try to pastebin the other four Statesmen I've written up. We're 10 percent done! Yay!

Which Statesmen would you like to see written up next?

Also, would anyone care to help me edit this into a pdf?

>>47654230
http://pastebin.com/xGc6EJuN

And I forgot the link like an idiot. Again.

>>47654230
That robo-gladiator's ass is...unreasonably chiseled.

>>47654230
Let's see your take on Kentucky Rain, the hydrokinetic Elvis impersonator.

>>47640805
well there a few I been thinking of using.
>your arch nemesis crashes though your window bleeding and clutching his comatose number 2, begging for help.

for a short game you could have him be on the run from some gritty 90's antihero type. the key here would be making sure your arch is sympathetic and that your players would want to help him. you could also play it any number of ways tongue in creek, grim and gritty or out right parody.

for a longer game you could make it part of a vast conspiracy to get rid of supers entirely. they do this by first taking out the supervillains that no one would miss.
in this one you could get away with making your arch unsympathetic you just have to make your players think of the big picture and realise that their not going to stop after their done with the supervillains and come after them next.
this one your kind of have to play a little bit more serious too though there's never a need to go full on grimdark. on the plus side though if one of your players wants to play a supervillain but the rest don't then you could justify the two sides teaming up in order to combat a larger foe and have one of your players play the supervillain.

>turns out your normal life wasn't so normal after all when it turns out your dads where all supervillains and just kicked the bucket, giving you guys the keys to their lair and everything inside.
all manner of ways to play this could happen.
do the players want to use the villain tech to become heroes or become villains like dear old dad?
do they have to deal with supervillains wanting to get their hands on the tech/magic/scrolls what have you, or superheroes that don't want anyone to get their hands on that stuff?
did they know what their parents were up too or did they even know they were alive?
the possibilities are endless!
>>47654318
ghost o' jarone maybe?

>>47654432
Ghost o' Jarone and Emerald Blaze have steadily built more material over the course of the past couple threads. I want to save them until later.

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>>47653830
I've been thinking of using capes as a signifier of growth and tone shift for my super setting.
like at first the superheroes are outnumbered and underpowered to deal with the super villains In the normal hero fashion so they have to get tactical, cut down on any frills and bells and cheat their asses off to win and become as gritty as their foes. but as they get stronger and start winning they start putting those bells and whistles back on and start adding to them, until finally they put on their capes and take back their dreams of becoming true heroes.

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Mountain Lion:http://pastebin.com/CtjtKkKs

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>>47655024
The Hoosier and his super car the Crossroader:
http://pastebin.com/xBX3pZSc

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>>47655210
Captain Justice, armored legacy hero and Statesman of Texas (lost his pic, so have one of his buddy)

http://pastebin.com/3VVEn9nT

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Working off the idea of characters having "Impact" ratings. How would the thread feel about "impact" write ups? Like how to incorporate different elements and powers into a setting so that the world feels fresh and interesting in a high impact setting or strange and fresh in a low impact setting.

For instance, teleportation. High impact would have teleporation as public transport. Inter dimensional gates are guarded by lonely, elite super teams always on standby in case of emergency. Public support groups exist to find and rehabilitate "ghosts" created by exploding teleporter accidents. Bio-technology is revolutionize as bad cells can be cleanly teleported away and surgical procedures can be performed without a single cut.

In a low-impact setting on the other hand teleporation is rare, but it exists. There might be a single super human that can use it who is hounded on all sides by people and groups that want to exploit or protect him or her. A superhuman serial killer could be using their powers of teleporation to stealthily kill and main their targets, the only sign of their actions being a faint quantum trail only one of the PCs can see...

Do Impact write ups sound like a good idea? How should they be structured? What should go in them?

>>47655650
So by impact, you mean overall prevalence in a setting? Besides, with regards to the Statesmen writeups, "Impact" refers to how big a player the character is in the grand scheme of things, ultimately a measure of character importance to an extent.

>>47602271
I came up with a kaiju/giant mech/etc. setting once based mostly on a pun based on the knifegun gag from Let's Destroy Shagohod!, before adding in more alien/bizarre factions. Not so sure it would apply in /ccg/ though.

As for my superheroic setting, giant robots/mechs and kaiju are as common as any other supervillain and gimmicky character with super powers.

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>>47655436
And the last write up so far, Maryland's Blue Crab and his sub...The Blue Crab.

http://pastebin.com/UvErbjrW

>>47655761
It's sort of prevalence, and its sort of well...impact. How much it changes the world.

Aight mates, my quick dissertation on mad science:

Superscience and it's problems on long term settings
OR
Why IS Reed Richards useless?

A problem with superhero comics, and the rpg settings based on them, is the logic hole provoked by super/mad scientists not changing the entire world. Superhero settings suffer from mixing fantasy and sci-fi ideas and characters while trying to keep the setting in a 'present day'. But if you have a science hero, a super scientist, like Reed Richards or Tony Stark in setting, it gets hard to explain why humans aren't colonizing other planets, why they haven't invented cures for most, if not all, diseases, why are there fuel or energy problems.

My response to that is two fold: First it's because their tech is too futuristic; Second is that they have mental problems.

The tech level is way too damn high
The first thing we have to analyze is that supertechnology is centuries ahead of it's time. Not only in ideas, like DaVinci having the idea for the helicopter some four hundred years before technology allowed it tobe invented, but technologically too.
Iron Man creating his armor is like if DaVinci not only invented the helicopter, but also the advanced metalurgy, the advanced plastics, the fuel, the eletronics and computers, the rotor design, the combustion engine, the helicopter blades design, the petroleum extraction and refinement industries necessary for the fuel and plastics, the mining techniques necessary to create the eletronics, the programming necessary to make the instruments, the aeronautics science necessary to create the rotor, etc.
When Reed Richards sells his patents it doesn't have an immediate impact on the tech level of the world because he doesn't share this background technology, making it like giving the complete schematics for an attack helicopter to a bunch of medieval scholars.

Cont.

>>47658030
Given a team of top scientists and a couple of decades, a company can reverse engineer some breakthrough or next generation tech, usually something that can bring great profits, but it takes a lot of time and effort to come to fruition.
Another thing this creates is technobabble. Because their mad science is so separate from the normal in-world science that there are no appropriate words to what they are doing, so mad scientists are forced to use the closest words to explain to other people. When a mad scientist mentions 'reversing the neutron flow', they are actually doing a very complex process, that has nothing to with neutrons, flow and it has only a passing resemblance to reversing anything. But this is as close as modern language can get.

It's called MAD science for a reason
The big thing, for me, that stops superscientists from changing the world is that they're crazy. From Reeds autism, to Starks egocentrism and problems with dependency, to Luthors and Dooms obssessions and narcissism. Somehow getting the brilliance necessary to create supertechnology distorts the mind into madness. What else would explain a small time thief, like Captain Cold or Shocker, creating amazing technology and then using it to rob banks and fight superheroes, instead of patenting it and making billions? Madness.

What I did in my setting:
I took a page from Genius the Transgression, and separated genius from Super Genius. A Tony Stark equivalent is NOT a normal human with an armor, he has a superpower, SuperIntelligence. And that initial flash of SuperIntelligence always brings with it some form of madness. This is a recognized phenomenom across the universe and most species consider it necessary for a species to reach space travel. Usually this flash of brilliance and the technology it advances is proportional to the original intelligence and interests of the person.
Cont.

>>47658145
For example: a genius like Reed or Luthor becomes a mad scientist capable of making very advanced technology in various fields, while a regular person only develops Super Inteligence in a small field such as cold effects in thermodynamics like Captain Cold or Mister Freeze, or vibrational frequencies like the Shocker.
Unlike GtT, this is actual science, just so advanced that regular scientists can't comprehend or replicate it without years of learning, experimenting and testing.

The fact that Super Genius brings some form of madness also helps to explain why there are more gadget based supervillains than superheroes.

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>>47658030
>Like DaVinci giving schematics to medieval scholars

This reminds me of two ideas I had for example heroes for the "Super hero age randomizer" Silver Age.

The "Science Hero" example would have been a guy that takes the best parts of Walt Disney and Howard Hawks. He's a rich, imaginative futurist who believes in human progress and heroic destiny or all mankind. He believes the human mind can overcome all problems, and demonstrates this through his inventions.

The problem is, his inventions only work when he uses them, and no one can figure out how they work in the first place. The ideas come to him in dreams while his mind wanders among the thought-forms of Mental Earth and when he awakens he brings some of his dreams with him. His inventions are living dreams-modified thought-forms- and only he can understand and use them because they're his dreams.

He thinks of them as useful prototypes, and spends his time trying to reverse engineer dreams into reality. Its supposed to be a little pottery-metaphor for the creative process.

He lives and works in a giant "City of Tomorrow" that's sort of like Tomorrow Land, and he struggles with the fact that not everyone can live in his dreams. How many people-and what kinds of people-should live in his dream city? Dreamers? Thinkers? Doctors? Philosophers?

His rival is a scientist that tries to make technology into dreams. His reverse basically. He's an explorer of Mental Earth, a dream-astronaught. He believes the Future City is harmful because it hurts imagination. It tells people that THIS is the future and THIS is the path we should funnel our resources and effort into. It says we should spend time making this one man's dreams reality rather than dare imagining alternatives.

He's not wrong, but it was never this character's intention to stifle creativity with his dreams. It's something he struggles with during his character arc.

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>>47658263
I was thinking he could have his own super team composed of people that use his inventions. He has to keep in close proximity to them for the gear to work though, otherwise its all useless.

Call them the VANGUARD OF TOMORROW!

...Anyone got ideas for members? At least one of them needs to have a jetpack.

The character and his team could be used to explore the concept of "retro futurism". Eventually some of this character's dream-tech gets outdated by actual technology while still outperforming "real tech" in other ways. The food pills aren't neccesary because Cape World found ways to beat world hunger (Super Builders like Kentucky Rain and the creator of Gemstone and the other Idaho bots making super-potatoes). And his "tele-wristband" are crappier versions of cell phones. But his energy systems are light-years ahead of what current technology can do. They convert the already comic-booky radiation and electricity of Cape World into an infinite power source that can do anything.

Cape World Statesmen Questions:

1. How often does the roster switch up? Every five years? Every decade? Every single year?

2. Should Ghost O Jarone have any cool demonic weaponry? A supernatural BAR and Tommygun and the like? What would they do?

3. Emerald Blaze as a "modern day princess' her parents are grooming to be the CEO when they step down, yes or no?

4. Four Fathers-should he be capable of holding his own in combat? Should he simply be a "mascot" type character?

5. Veritas-I want to give her a supporting cast of "ideology" gods. She's the goddess of freedom, but what would other "American Gods" be like? What is "Life" and "Pursuit of Happiness" like? What is "Free Market" and "Civil Rights?"

Could everyone's favorite cat girl Bob Cat be an "American Goddess"?

6. Tornadoe Allie-a character I'm struggling to get a read on. She's a loudmouth walking PR nightmare, but how exactly? What are her personal views?

7. Rat Pack: How intelligent are we talking here? A single hive mind intellect? Are they capable of individual thought but are linked together, like Village of the Damned meets Secret of NIMH?

I want Rat Pack to be ambassadors from the Sewers of New York, which is weird enough to be its own campaign setting, to the wider world. We've talked a little about NYC sewers and their weirdness like territorial animal mutant warrior tribes, but what else is down there?

I want there to be CHUDs. How can we get sewer zombies?

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>>47659420
>1. How often does the roster switch up? Every five years? Every decade? Every single year?
It's no good as a reliable organization if the roster is changing every year.
>2. Should Ghost O Jarone have any cool demonic weaponry? A supernatural BAR and Tommygun and the like? What would they do?
Being a Prohibition-era gangster, having a BAR and Thompson available to him only makes sense. Since they're hell-powered, they naturally hit harder than their conventional counterpart.
>3. Emerald Blaze as a "modern day princess' her parents are grooming to be the CEO when they step down, yes or no?
All that's said was that she comes from money, yet she tried not to be spoiled by it - she's a relatively responsible rich girl. As for whether they're grooming her to be heir to the empire (whatever that empire is), it's as good an angle as any; after she became powered and took up the hero business, it's been harder to tend to any specific imperial duties. Her parents support her heroic endeavors, but they're worried for her and for the future. It's uncertain if we're going for the "secret identity" angle to complicate matters further.
>4. Four Fathers-should he be capable of holding his own in combat? Should he simply be a "mascot" type character?
He's a huge, lumbering golem. I don't see why he can't fight.
>5. Veritas-I want to give her a supporting cast of "ideology" gods. She's the goddess of freedom, but what would other "American Gods" be like? What is "Life" and "Pursuit of Happiness" like? What is "Free Market" and "Civil Rights?"
>Could everyone's favorite cat girl Bob Cat be an "American Goddess"?
I'm not sure you can give Veritas a full supporting cast of deities, especially if they're representing strictly American values. If there is, Veritas is the one who stands out the most because freedom is one of the single biggest pillars of the American identity and what people feel strongly about. As for Bob Cat, I could see her as an American "guardian spirit."

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>>47659420
>>47660211
(FYI, Emerald Blaze is visibly inspired by Shego, but Shego's leotard design is honestly kinda retarded. Emerald Blaze's skinsuit would be much more nicely designed).

>6. Tornadoe Allie-a character I'm struggling to get a read on. She's a loudmouth walking PR nightmare, but how exactly? What are her personal views?
One of the main things Tornado Allie has going for her is that she's the designated "sassy black girl" of the group. That said, it's only difficult to build PR for her because it's hard to keep a lid on her, not because she's unruly or anything. She's also not one of those Tyler Perry "angry black women" either who don't need no man and vigorously fight their way up the corporate ladder. On paper, she tries to pose herself as the voice of reason, what with her Catholic upbringing, but since she tends to butt in at times when she's not asked for, she can be overbearing at times. Since she's characterized as "flirty and just a bit lewd and crude," part of me thinks she should be some sort of party animal. It only recently dawned on her, ever since she got into the superhero business, that most superheroes and superheroines are friggin' hot (some moreso than others if they're explicitly characterized as "attractive"). Being around all these unreasonably sexy people seems to have flipped a switch in her. She used to prowl for a good "soldier" to take her home, but now she's in a whole 'nother league of characters to pick from.
>7. Rat Pack: How intelligent are we talking here? A single hive mind intellect? Are they capable of individual thought but are linked together, like Village of the Damned meets Secret of NIMH?
When you've been around superhuman intelligences like Rat Pack has and have enough cumulative brainpower to match up with a typical human at minimum, you're bound to learn things. It's like Splinter from TMNT, who was able to learn ninjutsu by watching his owner. As for what's in the infamous New York sewers, go nuts.

>>47659420
>>47660211
It's Libertas guys, her name is Libertas. My original conception of her was that she was ontologically weird and didn't fit into any god/atlantean/superhuman category, but you can do the American god thing if you want.

>>47660366
That's what I initially thought when I read Libertas's synopsis. She just kinda showed up and has been inexplicably drawn to all manner of cause involving freedom. People only seem to characterize her as a "goddess of freedom" because that's the only way they can immediately rationalize her. She's SOMETHING, but Libertas has never really looked into exactly what she is. That's a plot hook in itself: figuring out Libertas's origins.

>>47660391
That's a good idea. She can have a "multiple choice" origin like Waveracer.

>>47660366
>Its Libertas
Sorry about that. I have no idea where Veritas came from. I guess that's her Earth-325 version?

>>47660211
>>47660358
All good ideas. I was thinking about the Statesmen roster being open to elections every decade. Would that be okay?

I picture Rat Pack being incredibly industrious. At last a part of the swarm is always building something, and they take things with them as they travel. A group of bad guys can easily find themselves trapped behind a quickly assembled cage in mere moments or find that they're suddenly surrounded by weight sensitive proxy mines that only a rat could walk over without setting off.

Rat Pack is small, numerous, intelligent, and organized. When you fight Rat Pack you fight a tiny civilization of architects. That alone is pretty powerful, but I was thinking about a handful of the rats being low-level "mutant" rats with super powers. One can cause tiny fires, for instance. But they can share these powers through the hive-mind, temporarily giving the entire Rat Pack their single power. So a single rat that can throw a single spark becomes a mob that can throw walls of fire.

Should there be certain "face" mice that take over duties talking to people? What would they be like personality wise? Would they even think to give themselves names being a part of the Rat Pack?

>>47661868
>Would they even think to give themselves names being a part of the Rat Pack?
i don't know about the rest but you could have it be that other people tend to give the rats names. like the "face" rat would be named squeaky because of it's voice or the "head of combat" rat would be named scarface do to it's scar

>>47662015
Now that's a thought. The New York public names the more prominent rats on behalf of the Rat Pack. They're pet names, basically.

>>47660358
Now we need Tornado Allie booty-dancing in her super suit.

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>>47663726
that pic makes me think a little, does cape world or anyone's setting have a captain country type hero in them?

>>47665190
Not explicitly, no. There is no Captain <country> to speak of.

>>47665190
The closest would probably be Captain Justice for Texas, but even he's more about a legacy that goes back to the old west than TEXAS.

How would we make a character based on modern "cute girl doing cute things" heroines like Hellcat, Ms. Marvel, an Squirrel Girl without it becoming an outrageous and hateful caricature?

>>47669466
It has to come naturally. It can't be their defining schtick.

>>47669466
Ms.Marvel is done well because she isn't sole defined by being Pakistani muslim or being a nerd. She enjoys the smell of meat but doesn't eat it because of religious reasons and she has the typical teenage secret identity struggle.

While the main Squirrel Girl comic is just her being an unbeatable SJW.

Hellcat I refuse to believe that shit is actually getting published.

>>47669715
>Hellcat I refuse to believe that shit is actually getting published.
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Working on Kentucky Rain's write up, and as weird as an Elvis Impersonator is I feel there's potential in the character for an interesting look at why heroes wear masks and adopt code names.

Its to make them feel confident wielding powers and fighting cosmic evil. It's to give them a persona, just like how tribal cultures use masks to take on the aspects of spirits and gods. Peter Park cant' deal with this shit, but maybe SPIDER-MAN can! That sort of thing.

What KENTUCKY RAIN does is simply use Elvis and his swaggering mannerisms as his persona instead of so say, calling himself Rain-Boy and wearing a raincoat.

He looks weird to other super heroes, but that's because they'll looking at him like an average person would look at a super hero: a guy in a flamboyant costume acting out a part.

There was talk of a cosplay culture in Cape World Japan where super humans try to bring manga characters to life, and mangaka sometimes create stories and characters for a specific human to "act out". What if in America there's a subculture of celebrity impersonator super humans?

You'd have super-John Wayne and super-Marilyn Monroe and super-James Dean and super-Bogart.

Men and women would adopt the exaggerated personas of super-stars to give themselves the confidence needed to be super heroes and do dangerous things.

Maybe Cape World Vegas' Hollywood Casino has a super team composed of A-grade impersonators?

Good idea? Bad idea?

>>47669466
"cute girl doing cute things" is already an outrageous and horrific caricature of good taste

>>47670017
Eh, that's a bit of a stretch. Super-impersonators aren't as big a thing and would be localized to small pockets, and super cosplay is one of Japan's national gimmicks. Plus, the idea of impersonation was brought up much more elegantly in one of the older threads: one of the Vegas casino's house supers has the power of hard-light illusions that allow guests at the casino to feel like they're dining with old TV and silver screen stars. That's even before you get into people who can alter their image.

>>47670472
I can dig super-impersonators being a very low-key sub-culture. I feel as if they work as a werido group, as people that are strange even by super hero standards.

This talk about super heroes adopting personas makes me think of something. Would heroes copyright their personas? Would up and coming heroes latch on to a legacy for the confidence and publicity a certain outfit or mask entails? Would you have pockets of super humans all borrowing the legacy of a popular hero? Think a group of guys that dress up as Batman. What would Batman think about that? Or in Cape World terms, what would Captain Justice think if there was suddenly a team of Captain Justice knock offs?

What would the Generals think if they suddenly found a not-Generals composed of fanboys and fangirls?

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>>47670571
>Copyrighting a superhero persona
We deal with enough shit as it is with the patent office in reality. Let's not make it worse.

>>47670571
Well imposters have happened in comics plenty of times. Death of Superman brought various other Supers like Cyborg Superman,Steel and Superboy and the current death of Superman brought Chinese Superman,Lois as Superwoman and Lex Luthor the Superman. People like Superman are awe and inspiring so it makes sense if something were to happen to them they'd latch on to the legacy.

Batman on the other hand seems to have some copyright to his name with Batman Inc. but his death brought Battle for the Cowl where Jason Batman used guns,Tim Batman got his ass handed and Dick comes out as the new Batman. The Dark Knight also showed Batmen imposters and they're too incompetent to be Batman. Their hearts are probably in the right place but they go about it wrong and they don't have any of Batman's training,gadgets and/or code.

So going off of that a team composed of not!Generals would be interesting. I'd imagine Doc would be flattered but the rest of the team really creeped out. Especially Blue Cobalt because her impostor is a man in drag.

>>47670653
It could make some good plot hooks though. Imagine some poor turn of the century cape whose badass costume and persona are lingering in obscurity because his estate is sitting on the rights.

Some guy then shows up wearing the costume and using the name and the estate hires the PCs to get him to change. What do they do?

Or how about a corporation that collects super personas and costumes and sells them to whoever they want and influence their control with an army of lawyers. What happens if they find one of the PCs has an outfit detail or gimmick that "infringes on their intellectual property". How would the PCs fight a "bad guy" like this?

There could be a super hero named "Mr Gimmick" who was active back in the Silver Age who changed out his gimmick and costume constantly just to build up a bank of copy rights.

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>>47670571
But anon, that's why we have the guild.

Extra-Human is next on my write up list after Kentucky Rain, and I have some questions.

1. Does anyone know about him being a grey besides his close friends and owl waifu?

2. Does he have a UFO? What does he disguise it as?

3. What kind of special powers does he have?

4.I'm thinking his arch foe could be a Fox Mulder type that wants to know all his secrets.

>>47670968
I think pretty much everyone knows when he's Extrahuman that he's an alien but they're too nice to point it out. But when he's in his human disguise it has a Roger effect that no one can tell that he's an alien.

>>47670571
>Think a group of guys that dress up as Batman. What would Batman think about that?
I kind of have a group like that in my setting, though that's mostly cause batman's dead and he saved them from a super soilder project.

>>47671218
Personas and Identities have been apart of the super hero game sense Superman. There's always good stories to be written based on these themes.

>>47670682
>imposters

Maybe a shape shifting super villain that does his crimes dressed as other super humans to discredit them? He's a professional "doubt sower", an expert at tarnishing images.

What would a character do if suddenly someone in their costume killed a bus full of orphans? Would they keep their persona or would they change?

>>47671455
How about some sort of shadow monster that becomes an evil duplicate of whoever he's fighting? An instant Bizarro?

...eh, I got nothing.

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That which Country Gal was modeled after, partly, now that I think about it.

>>47672635
>>47672635
Science Tyrant is shown that he's knowledgable with cloning since he's technically Viperstrike's baby daddy also. He could have cloned the Generals for his Cobra Commander

>>47670901
The GCI's a thing in Cale World?

Who's Brock Samson,Dr.Jonas Venture and the Mighty Monarch?

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So has romance ever come up in your guys' games?

>>47681863
Unfortunately, no. That said, you'd think it would come up more often, whether it's super/super or super/normal relations (Man of Steel, Woman of Paper).

>>47681972
Poor Lois

>>47682246
Lois does fairly well for herself, given her boyfriend is a Paragon.

>>47675837
Sort of. There's an international organization called THE DECK that provides services like hideouts and minions to its super-baddie clientele.

>>47683623
It's less Legion of Doom and more an evil support network.

>>47675837
Wasn't Science Tyrant basically the Monarch?

They both started off as henchman and decided to be come their own villains outside of the established ruleset. Science Tyrant just lacks Monarch's HATE

>>47646025
Oh fuck off that bitch and the meme were the only really shit part of the awesome movie.

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Hey guys I'm relatively new at M&M and trying to figure out how to build a character to understand the mechanics but I'm getting stuck at some stuff.
I'm trying to make a power using that would be basically a force-field that's used as an action, but I also want it to be able to make it a barrier to cover a few allies nearby, and always anchored to the character.
Is pic related how I would build it?

>>47689549
You pretty much got it.

>>47689549
>>47689574
It's worth mentioning that there's multiple correct answers when it comes to building any particular concept. Keep in mind that you're only building the final effect, not necessarily the power itself. With the effect in place, you can fluff your power however you want around it.

>>47670968
In one of the earlier drawings his UFO was a Static Shock like disc he rode around on.

Special powers include Heightened HUMAN Senses.

Human Telepathy,
Human Telekenisis
Human SuperIntellect.

and regarding the foe.
Oh totally. I can see that working out. plus it has that almost J Jonah Jameson vibe to it.

(basically stuff that you'd think gray aliens would have.

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>>47689574
>>47689582
Thanks you guys.
The character in question's "power" is that she's a human energy factory/battery with super speed (mental and physical) and a kinetic barrier around her to keep her safe when moving super fast (but only herself in this case).
Now when she uses special equipment, that energy can be used as ranged energy blasts and can do the area safety-bubble wearing said equipment, am I representing it correctly here?
I'm assuming I'll have to remake the personal forcefield power she has naturally too, correct?
Also is it just the program being wonky with the whole DC for the shield since I chose Burst and I should ignore it?
Sorry if these questions are retarded, the only tabletop I have played is 5e D&D starting 9 months ago and I wanted to learn some more systems and this was a sudden jump in difficulty to grasp.

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Wow I'm surprised the thread has stayed up as long as it has. This what? started last friday?

Its good to see it get a decent flow of content.

Also neat! Extra human is getting a write up!

>>47689728
It looks fine to me but I could be wrong.

There's never such a thing as retarded questions here. The point of the thread to get help for cape shit games.

There's a certain, I guess you'd call it theme, or maybe cliche, that I like, and I want to get you guys opinion on it.

What do you think of settings that have 'past' generations of supers that lived in the 40s and 50s and so forth, with the lore making it seem like things were Golden and Silver age in tone back then, but modern times have more 'grounded' or 'gritty' heroes.

One of my last M&M PCs was based on this premise. He was THE ORDINATOR! Everyman John Smith was just a regular stand-up jack, until the rise of the Axis, when John rose up to serve his country! While at war, he was accidentally exposed to powerful alien Nazi superscience, transforming him into THE ORDINATOR! Using his newfound generic flying brick powers, he joined the other capes in taking the battle to Hitler, and survived into the 50s, having a wife and children, until one of his archnemesi blasted him with an Time Beam, sending him into the far and distant future of 2015!

He literally just moved into an apartment, wore a sweater vest, smoked a pipe, respected the police, and acted like a cliche patriarchal 50s dad and everyman....

And then he started fighting urban terrorists in power armor who cared nothing about civilians and made the villains in his time who mostly kidnapped people and robbed banks [and yes did some murders and killing and collateral damage, but had *some* humanity] look positively heroic by comparison.

>>47689728
Couldn't you make the force field have an alternate effect that just targets her instead of a group?

>>47690101
It's coming, I hope to have it by Sunday at least. I've been going slow with the write ups because I've been plowing through Ghost Rider and Spectre comics trying to find inspiration for Ghost O Jarone and Cape World Hell.

Amusingly Its given me a lot of ideas for things other than Ghost.

I think when I'm down with the Statesmen I'm going to move on to doing short write ups of themes and how to incorporate them into a setting. They'll be write ups of teleporation, mind control, matter creation, magic, aliens, super powered races, etc.

They'll all be about things that change the world, and the write ups will include a handful of characters and how to work these elements into a world so as to keep it like our own or make it fantastically different.

Any hot issues we want to talk about in this (or the next) thread?

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>>47691350
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>>47691355
Sense we're on Ghost, anybody got good ideas for Horror themed heroes?

I remember back in the seventies Marvel was crawling with monsters. Werewolf by Night. Tomb of Dracula. Man-Thing. Ghost Rider. Beast even got his blue fur and Tigra became a catgirl to try and cash in on the monster craze.

What characters would be on a "monster hero" team?

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>>47692160
I think it'd be a little cheap to cordon off all the "beast man" supers into a single group. You sprinkle them around.

>>47692160
We got one already with the "Extrahuman, Ghost, Ms Crytpic, Haunter, Otherthing" team...sort of. They're more X-Files.

I guess to be really 70's you'd need a Satan/demon themed character, a character that has a "dark side" they have trouble controlling like Ghost Rider and Werewolf by Night (and Hulk to an extent), and a Wizard like Dr. Druid/Hellstrom/Strange/Stanna/Magick.

And a vampire lord. Because Tomb of Dracula was on of Marvel's flagship titles.

How would you make a vampire cool? I guess we could use that idea for a super from Transylvania who pretends to be a vampire but is actually solar powered (and gets some power form moonlight).

He could be the leader. His name would have to be something stereo-typically vampire. LORD BLUDD or something like that.

>>47692602
This is true. But there are several monster teams so far with their own themes. Palmetto Bug is a misfits/Doom Patrol theme. Ms. Cryptic's group is a group of investigators.

I'm not sure what these guys would be besides "monster squad" though.

Monster Hunters?

Super Hero black ops?

A group of people trying to either cure or come to terms with their conditions with LORD BLUDD as their psychiatrist?

We need a gimmick besides "monster people". I think one of these can work, but which one?

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>>47692733
I think the "group therapy" team idea works. They help each other deal with their respective monster hunters, demonic parents, self loathing and vampire sires.

If Palmetto's group is about finding a way to fit into society and Ms Cryptic's group is about investigation then this group is about becoming comfortable with oneself.

Here's an idea: An angel that fell and went to hell and she's struggling to find a way, any way, to get back to heaven. She encounters resistance from both her demonic and angelic kin. Maybe we can tie her into myths of characters that fell only "half way" like Islamic Peris and Irish Faeries?

She has horns and a tail and blood red wings and she's ashamed of all these things and hides them with big hats and coats.

I think it would be neat if at least one of the "therapy team" had a "finishing movie". What I mean by that is that Ghost Rider had special cold hellfire that didn't burn but seared the soul decades before Daniel Ketch and the Penance Stare) and Man-Thing burned people afraid of it.

Some sort of fear-creature maybe? It takes the form of people's nightmares and so it's always bound in a creepy suit of armor. The poor creature would have torn itself to shreds (because it is what it fears most) ages ago but several kind ghosts have taken residence inside it hoping to find some way of rehabiliting the creature that was probably once a man. But its understandably taxing and several of them just want to give up. "Caretaker stress" is the theme of the character.

Good ideas so far? What do you think?

>>47693230
Monster rehab? Can't say I've thought of that.
>My name is Dullahan Dan, and I'm a monster.
>Hi, Dan~

>>47694060
How about a werewolf character where the werewolf half is ashamed of his human half for being a lazy NEET while he's a big buff alpha dude?

It's less "there's a monster inside me" and more "there's a big jock inside me that throws out all my nerd stuff whenever he takes over and has sex in my bed".

Think dysfunctional room mates that have to share the same body.

So

-Not-vampire therapist

-Repentant demon girl

-Ghost-inhabited nightmare creature in armor

-Werewolf nerd

I think two more would make a team capable of carrying a book....I'm tempted of adding another werewolf, one whose problem is that she's a defeated alpha whose pack looks down on in pity ever sense she lost and has complete harmony with her wolf side in contrast to the nerd wolf.

Is two werewolves too many?

Anyone have any experience with Worm Dice?

>>47611319
Imbuing impossible properties. Sharp spheres, dry water, etc.

>>47611319
Becoming more powerful/skillful depending on the number of people presently watching you. Live broadcast included.

>>47694819
That sounds similar to the Heiress from Hollywood: a psionic whose powers are proportional to how popular she is.

>>47690186
I personally like the idea and I'm working on a setting like that myself though it's more the world was golden age-y before the villains all pulled off the set up for Wanted and rewrote the world so supers never existed, but you can't keep the sprit of heroism down and new heroes rose up to take the old ones place.
while branded terrorists and criminals by the villain controlled media and governments and having to resort to brutal and violent metord to win fights against villains with decades more experience, they're still trying to be proper heroes and stand for truth and Justice even if they fall a little when they do so.

Hey everybody forever Dm here, one of my buddies in my regular games went to Haiti for a month so i'm thinking of doing a short game for my remaining friends while we wait for them to get back. I'm vaguely interested in doing a cape rpg, though I've never done one before. What are some good ones and do you have any suggestions for me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8sFlno9Fs0
Y/N

Creating a character for a Mutants & Masterminds 3E game and I'm a little stumped on how to properly do a power. I want the character to effectively channel energy through a weapon, boosting the damage of the weapon, but not have the attack be completely dependant on having the weapon in hand, ie; they can still attack with the energy if thru don't have the weapon, they would just lose any added damage the weapon would grant.

How would you build a power to reflect all that?

>>47697121
One way you could do it is build two powers in an array: one power is the basic energy attack, and the other is the stronger weapon energy attack, the latter with the limitation that you need the weapon.

>>47697195
Using alternate effects, right? The main power being the weapon attack and the secondary, and weaker, being the base energy attack?

>>47697283
Something like that, yeah.

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hey guys I've been trying to come up with names for a super team and I was hoping you guys could help me out?
the idea behind them is that they're a team of special operatives who work for the USA and all use mech suits modeled after animals.
the general naming theme would be weapon animal sort of like foxhound from metal gear.
three members I've figured out names and roles for are
>Gatling gorilla
heavy weapons guy, think war machine if he just kept slapping more and more guns on to himself.
>desert eagle, know to the public as American eagle for PR reasons
leader and team sniper, uses his flight suit to reach higher ground. think if Hawkeye and MCU Falcon did a fusion dance.
>bouncing bunny
team scout and martial artist. uses her suits powerful legs to move extremely fast and to hit extremely hard. often the first responder to any super attack.

so do you guys have any suggestions for more members? cause I'm kind of running out of gun and animal names.

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/tg/, I need help.
My tabletop group is playing some Mutants and Masterminds, and we have reached an impasse.
We can't agree on our superhero team name.
This is why I need you. I need you to vote as a completely impartial party.
For reference, it's a "Teen Titans" kind of group, a bunch of young and inexperienced heroes, stuff like that.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10443334

>>47699055
I like Second Line and Newbloods

>>47698158
Savage Rat, an old as shit Vietnam Vet who got serious PTSD serving as one of those soldiers that had to chase Charlie through tunnel systems. Is on combat enhancing drugs that let him zip around the battlefield at the cost of his sanity. He thinks the enemy is Charlie. Is armed with cyber-claws that let him tear through metal and earth to form quick tunnels and special goggles that let him see throughout the light spectrum. Is lightly armored for optimum speed and agility.

Crash Cobra: Devil may care stuntman paralyzed by his last stunt. Agreed to join the team in exchange for cutting edge tech to let him move again.

Is armed with a tricked out stunt motorcycle with machine guns, missiles, and rocket boosts as well as gauntlets that let him fire off powerful metal coils. He uses these coils to pull off acrobatic stunts or to grapple enemies. The coils have retractable needles hidden in the grooves that are filled with a deadly neurotoxin.

Fire Bat: Batman if Batman had an obsession with fire. A professional saboteur that likes big explosions and big fires. Completely silent, mentally unstable, and an expert in ambush tactics and guerilla warfare. His cape is made of stealth-cloak technology and can render him invisible. He's armed with way too many flame throwers. He has two on his shoulders, two on his arms, and holds two in his hands.

Fighting him is like fighting Vulcan Raven but he's invisible. You have to find him before he finds you or he blasts the shit out of you.

Has a fear of drowning and water.

>>47696950
so wait... is this saints row or no? cause it had the fleur de lis at the end.

Seems... interesting.
It would be nice to have a superhero game in the vein of crackdown/Saints Row IV actually let you customize something that resembles a super hero outfit.

That is unless these characters in the trailer are the ones we're playing as.

>>47700130

I'm 90% sure New Bloods was taken by at least one throwaway 90s team.

>>47701161
I'm pretty sure every variation of Blood was used as something in the 90s

>>47694299
Add one of those "Church of Cain" guys that broke his orders no kill rule because he saw too much shit and got pushed over the edge and got kicked out. He's like a traumatized war vet.

>>47702100
Group needs a real vampire. A burnt out immortal who is the grandpa of the team. Think the Nosferatu from Shadow of the Vampire. He's old and tried taking over the world, but now he's struggling to care about a world that's changed so quickly in so short a time. He used to be able to nap for decades without worrying about missing major cultural changes. He hasn't been able to do that sense 1900.

So is this a good team? We just need a rouge gallery. Any ideas?

so I have a couple cool ideas for the wild west setting,
the first is a semi sentient locomotive with legs that I was thinking could be called "The Brass Engine" and in the world of the wild west you would need some pretty impressive stuff to stop a 50 ton metal thing that goes faster than a horse day and night, so that is an interesting challenge
the second would be a native spirit called "Ghost Dance" who looks like a man-riding-a-horse shaped patch of night sky that throws obsidian arrowhead at escape velocity and is trying to drive out the white man

>>47702544
Brass Engine sounds like a cool as fuck encounter. Lots of western "set pieces" involve trains. Few involve Trains that are alive.

Maybe the Brass Engine robs trains for its creator? It just barrels into them, knocking them over and retrieving the lock box? Real life gangs knocked over trains with dynamite and did the same thing. Brass Engine just rams them.

>>47702475
maybe a group of monster hunters? boring I know but hear me out for a second, they want to make the monsters go on a public rampage so they can get famous for killing them. they target the group because they're cowardly and don't want deal with the danger of going up against real monsters.

>>47702907
Its a good angel. The cast has to fight against the hunters' manipulation of their impulses and natures to avoid becoming the kind of monsters that rampage. I dig it.

>>47702544
Cape World needs more Super-West characters, There's Alien God Killer and the original Captain Justice. These two make good additions.

This thread survived almost an entire week...

Huh. Thread lasted straight up to the time a new one would be

>>47694819
>Blowout has telekinetically assisted strength. His strength and durability increased with the size of his audience and the reaction he got from them. His secondary power fed the same reactions that fueled his strength to leave his targets stunned, reacting slower, or making them take longer to pick themselves off the ground.

>>47615126
>>47615615
Here's for the next OP
http://pastebin.com/bkpp0z2t

(in vain hope anybody notices and remembers)

>>47626161
I'm generally not a fan of "deconstructions" like that, but yours sounds fun

>>47626718
>>47626902
So, starts as nice Supreme analogue...

>>47627270
aaand segue into Irredeemable

>>47627735
With extra dark.


>>47627924
Nice hopeful ending though.

Overall: pretty damn cool, would use.

Does anyone happen to have a fillable PDF M&M 3e character sheet?
The only thing I have is the big spreadsheet char-gen from Atomicthinktank, and I want to make a cleaner-looking character sheet on it's own.

>>47689549
Actually this isn't a very good way to do that in the system.
See, Protection ranks are capped by PL and most heroes already have their dodgeparry and toughness reaching the cap. So power rolled up as this won't do a thing.

However, there is a power called Deflect in the corebook. It lets you spend an action to use it's rank as an active defence (dodge/parry) against all attacks at nearby allies; additionally instead of regular 10 bonus to the rank, you roll a d20 and add a 10 if it's less than 11, making sure you always roll pretty good.

>>47689728
Yes, a Removable array is a right arrangement for the powers.

>I'm assuming I'll have to remake the personal forcefield power she has naturally too, correct?
Characters usually have personal toughness separate from their action array even if it's same general powersource.
For example, the mage archetype has an array of attacking spells; and separate, constantly active flight and forcefield spells, on which he also has a separate alternate effect for scrying.

>Also is it just the program being wonky with the whole DC for the shield since I chose Burst and I should ignore it?
Program is sometimes wonky yes.

>>47697121
Could do it very easy and straightforward:
Just have an energy channel attack (strength-based damage). And also a melee weapon as equipment.
Strength+Weapon+Energy all stack by default. If the weapon is omitted, you just lose that damage.
But of course the PL cap should be measured by full power, with the weapon, so losing it would lose you some of the damage.

>>47700998
>Agents of Mayhem takes place after the "retcon ending" of Saints Row: Gat Out of Hell and thus serves as a reboot of the Saints Row universe. The game's plot revolves around an organization known as "MAYHEM", founded by Persephone Brimstone (a character first seen in Gat Out of Hell) and funded by the Ultor Corporation. Baring the Saints' purple fleur-de-lis logo, MAYHEM's goal is to stop "LEGION" (a terrorist organization) from destroying the world's nations.
Looks pretty interdastin.

>>47705564
>>47705568
Alright gentlemen, what do we do after such longevity?
>A: let it rest for a couple days and restart later
>B: start immediately, as long as it's just 1 thread per week it's fine

I'm leaning towards B.
And I'm also thinking of rewriting the OP. How does this look?

>Subject: Superhero General and Worldbuilding
Welcome to the thread dedicated Superhero TTRPGs!

Discussion on all systems is welcome and here's our link collection for a handful of different ones
>http://pastebin.com/bkpp0z2t

In the previous wave of threads, we have started an outpouring of worldbuilding for a "Cape World" setting, although the flood has since calmed down.
Some stuff has been collected into pastebins
>http://pastebin.com/5EyFqXgD
while the general total has been archived on suptg under assortment of tags, most reliable search is by the following:
>http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Cape

>>47706965
I'm going with b and the new op looks good

>>47706965
But the last time it was a Superhero general people got mad.

>>47707154
Yes because it was overwhelmingly focused on CapeWorld. Now that stuff had quite subsided and we have people coming in unsure if general superhero talk is ok. So we should make it clearer that yes it is.

>>47707623
And what happens if Cape World discussion picks up again?

>>47707660
If it gets overwhelming, we can split off again.

Are you just so scared of some random anons getting pissy?

Any ideas for useful "super organizations?"

I think there should be a medical one. Something that specializes in super humans. When a person things they have a super power they're required by law to check themselves into a SUPER CLINIC to make sure they aren't leaking a death-aura or radiation or killer brain waves or anything like that. The patient's records are completely confidential baring certain exceptions. Criminals don't get a right to privacy, their power-readout is a matter of public record.

SUPER CLINIC policies vary by country. Some are more public about its information than others. Collectivist countries usually keep a super human database-but its not usually available to the public.

SUPER CLINICS are a way to make sure super humans aren't walking disaster areas while not being super registration. Super powers are treated not as disease, but as a POTENTIAL disease. If you don't get yourself checked out and you accidentally heat vision someone to death you might get sued.

GOOD IDEA? BAD IDEA?

>>47708090
And there's plot potential with SUPER CLINICS.

The PCs have to protect a team of doctors as they operate on a dying nuclear super man. A team of bad guys want to make sure he explodes and are attacking the hospital.

The information banks of the Super Clinic gets leaked. Everyone is upset and no one knows who to blame, but a lot of super humans are having their information and ID put up on underground black market auctions. The PCs have to infiltrate the auction and take it down.

Politics could also be fun. One group wants more Super Clinic involvement, maybe requiring testing of "probable" super humans, like sons and daughters of super humans or those exposed to a super power creating event. Some would want less Super Clinic involvement, or maybe even none at all. If files ever leaked and caused bad things to happen than this side would have plenty of ammo for debates.

So are Super Clinics a good idea? I'm going to say yes. And they should go in Cape World unless anyone has an objection to them.

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>>47708090
>>47708182
You make it sound like Super STD testing and treatment.

>>47708268
I disease metaphor is actually pretty apt for how super powers work when you think about it.

>One superhuman dropped in a city attracts/creates several. You start with Batman and end up with shit ton of people before the weak is over.

>They have a high probability of jumping to a friend or loved one. If you're an SO or friend of a super hero odds are some writer is going to eventually give you super powers.

>Powers can change an develop throughout the life of a superhuman. See Wonder Man, Beast, Ice Man, Spider-Man, etc. Power levels rise and fall.

>Its possible to be a carrier without symptoms. This is what Mutants are before they get their X gene activated and what Inhumans are before expose to Terrigen mists.

Super Powers lend themselves readily to disease metaphors. SUPER CLINICS aren't meant to marginalize or oppress super humans, but if when fire starts coming out of your eyes you have a duty to society to find out whether or not some sort of kryptonite-chemical might cause you to explode or whether you cause a solar flares every time you shoot your lasers.

I mean think about it. If someone in real life developed some super power the first thing they're going to do is see their doctor and find out what exactly is causing their body to break physics.

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>>47708539
>A strain of space STDs achieves remarkable evolutionary success by slightly improving the physical abilities of whoever it infects.

>Certain bloodlines and family groups emerge that jealously guard their strains.

I'm imagining a planet full of super humans based on broad power stereotypes. You'd have a race of flying bricks. And a race of telepaths. And a race of stretchy people. And a race of guys that shoot energy.

Could we add this as the 4th Alien Species in Cape World?

Greys (secretive race that few believe exists)

Chromen (Cobalt Blue's people. A vast empire devoted to uplifting inferior species. Sort of like Victorian England meets the Spanish Armada)

Dancante's People (Space nomads and pirates that can fly through space by talking their atmosphere with them. They prey on the shear size of the Chroman armada, their eternal enemies)

These Guys. (A species of several races, each with their own power and role in a caste system.)

I suppose if there's any topic today I'd like for it to be about Aliens in Cape World and Cape stuff in general.

Remember, the very first cape was an alien.

What if the explanation for this world's mutants is that humanity is one big test subject for an alien race in hopes of creating the perfect super-soldier? Then they come back after 20 years to reap the rewards as naturally the more powerful mutants will dominate over the lesser ones. Kind of like how a Super Skrull works, they pick up the best traits and abilities of any number of mutants and give it to their own kind

>>47709498
That's...niche.

>>47709498
I think that was the Inhumans. Kree genetic experiment to make super-soldiers.

Earth X also had something like that. Mutants and super humans were created by the Celestials are a kind of immune system for the Celestial baby growing inside the Earth. They naturally evolved toward Asgardian and Eternal like races: extremely powerful, but the Celestials possessed a trump against them in the form of a deliberate flaw: they were shaped and limited by the collective unconscious (which is why they're based on mythology) and by the direct thoughts of the Celestials themselves.

>>47708732
I can see some sort of STD bacteria working like this. Way in the past it just gave whoever had it just a little bit more strength and durability. As the alien world evolved and developed they started cultivating the bacteria into strains through bloodlines. Some of the races of this alien culture are starting to speciate as they create blocks to prevent interbreeding between certain "castes".

The "flying brick" Superman type caste uses gene therapy and controlled breeding to make sure that the "super strong" caste and "flying" caste can't produce fertile young. At best they create someone infertile like a mule, so they aren't able to make a viable rival caste. Only "paragon" can breed "paragon".

I think this planet could be a cool setting in general. What "roles" would the caste bloodlines have? I suppose the "paragons" could be the rulers. But what if they maintained power by being good at exploring and trading with other worlds? By extension of these facts, they're also good at conquering other worlds and protecting the homeworld from invaders.

The "paragon" bloodcaste (I kind of like this term. Can we use it?) probably held back starship and space suit technology form developing on the planet. What they have is stuff that relies on their raw power to putter around the galaxy. Their space ships are man-powered, basically.

>>47709704
Man powered star ships. They're basically glorified backpacks for the Paragon bloodcaste to store their trade goods. And the Paragon bloodcaste isn't the only bloodcaste interested in keeping the ships like they are. The telepath bloodcaste are the navigation computers (like in Dune but more so). The energy-creating caste are the engines.

The United Bloodcastes (can we use this name?) Are rivals to the Chromen. While they're incredibly powerful they usually have to settle for lagging behind the Chromen because the Chromen are a united empire while the Bloodcastes engage in infighting. The Chromen also have an edge in technology and believe in advancing their technology at all costs.

The Bloodcaste knows that in an all out war, they would lose to the Chromen. But so far the Chromen are content leaving them be...for now. But they definitely see the virtue in "uplifting" a race as stagnant as the Bloodcastes. It's only a matter of making sure the Chroman empire doesn't leave itself vulnerable in the wake of a victory over the Bloodcastes.

So we have:

United Bloodcastes

Chroman Empire

The Planet Striders (Dancante's people)

The Grays

The Grays are the only group whose MO is really unknown. We know that they're the universe's version of Unicorns. They're rare and most everyone thinks they're a myth.

But why is that so? Why are the greys so secretive?

Ideas?

>>47709835
Maybe the Grays are like this world's Guardians. They're immensely powerful figures who would rather blend in with the background than get involved with anything themselves. It kinda plays into the idea that few people believe of their existence. Maybe they're treated like an urban legend or an old myth because they are so rare to find

>>47708732
Don't the Chromen also have a Ginyu Force?

>>47704473
we had a guy called atomic cowboy in earlier treads.

How about an entire city devoted to vigilante shenanigans? No monsters, no mutants, just masked men fighting gimmicky mobsters in abandoned warehouses. The city's an island, secluded from the rest of the world and it feels like its stuck in the 40's