>>47227777
>The Round Table are reincarnations of Arthurian Knights.
Please tell me you're including Sir Marrok, the werewolf, and Sir Morien, the badass Black knight.

Hey, did that guy who agreed to run a game for his friends but didn't have anything prepared ever get any help on a system?

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>>47227809
Oh we should pastebin up the "Villain Team" Was there anyone else that needed to be compiled?

Pic semi related. Its an initial pass at Science Tyrant.

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>>47227879
Yes, several times from several people. He decided to do the smart thing and just roll up characters with his friends today.

Please don't tell me you're the guy that bitched about all the world building in these threads.

>>47227865
I'm not the guy that writes up the Neo-Knights, but I definitely want to see them and Bercilak de Hautdesert.

Maybe even some non-Arthurian guys like Tam Lin, Red Crosse Knight, Britomart, etc.

>>47227909
The stuff on the locations like Japan, Germany, Vegas, etc. And The Irregulars.

Mean looking SCIENCE TYRANT, I like.

By the way, the last few threads aren't on sup tg. Is there a way to put them on from the archives?


The "imaginary friend" super has her advantages and skills. Now she needs 1D20 to determine what kind of energy she controls.

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>>47227987
>what kind of energy
So her powers aren't going to be so poorly defined as to be virtually limitless? Sounds like a good idea.

>>47227987
>Please don't tell me you're the guy that bitched about all the world building in these threads.
No, I'm the guy going on about comics. Oh, and the guy who was talking about Marrok and Morien. I just wanted to make sure he got help.

How do you guys find groups? All my friends think supers games are boring as shit. I want to play a superhero game so bad ;_;

>>47227809
In a western setting I'd love to do something like Steel Ball Run where people are manifesting powers after visiting some mysterious location that may or may not be real and unlocking their potential. But for good measure I'd mix in some mystic Native powers and maybe some holy stuff to keep it balanced out.

And personally I hope to run a 1920s/30s game where I'd have powers originally emerge on the battlefront via German chemical grenades that accidentally 'activate' people, but ofcourse have become popular in the crime infested states.

Does anyone here have experience with Hero 6e?

I'm trying to make Ritual Magic for my wizard and it's failing to work with the Hero Designer.

I think the issue is that I'm trying to apply more Limitations than Advantages to a power. My ritual spells have obvious, accessible focuses, incantations, gestures and take a full 5 minutes. I'm trying to tie it to stuff like a bigass Blast (For Siege Weapon style magic) and Teleport (For making cross-country jaunts. It's kinda silly to have that on something you can do in a short amount of time)

The final cost is less than the Control Cost for my Variable Power Pool (Magic!) thanks to the disadvantages but it won't accept it.

Is this not allowed? The book is not really cooperating with me for searching for this answer.

>>47227865

Sir Palomides would be great. A Saracen Knight who was the son of the King of Babylon.

Best Enemies with Tristan (Goes off and murders the crap out of Tristan's killer despite them constantly dueling to a standstill while he was alive.)

>>47228029
>Alan Moore Supreme
That was one of the best Superman runs ever.

>90's model with limitless ill defined powers

I wonder if that was Moore digging at Morrison for his JLA run which had them doing all sorts of crazy stuff.

>5
COSMIC: You wield the very versatile and primal cosmic energies

AHAHAHAHA!

Well, setting wise this works as "thought form made from raw dream stuff".

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>>47228119
I just talk to my friends. When that doesn't work I use Roll20, but that's been a crapshoot depending on who you get.

>>47228107
That's good. Thread got a lot nicer once he left.

>>47228239
Was Palomides the one with the Questing Beast?

The Questing Beast could be interesting modernized.

Galahad and Elane are just begging for some super science stuff. Elane was in lady a cauldron. Galahad was spooky perfect-ubermensh. I remember in TH White's Candle in the Wind the other knights were creeped out because he was just -too- perfect.

Galahad as Lancelot's clone baby or would that be too on the nose?

>>47228278

Yeah, he's the one who finally killed the Questing Beast.

Though it being allowed by him becoming Christian might be a tad un-PC these days and a little out of place in most superhero settings.

>>47228198
>where people manifest powers after visiting some mysterious location that may or may not be real.

Sounds like it could mesh with a lot of turn of the century adventure tropes. "The magical lost world" and all that.

>Powers as the result of German chemical grenades that accidentally activate people

Will it be like Wild Cards where 99 percent of people exposed to the gas die but 1 percent get super powers?

>>47228296
>Tad un-PC

The Knights of the Round Table are Quest World's Authority. They play up the idea of Arthur as empire builder who used war to bring peace to the isles. They really don't care about being pc.

>>47228278

I could see Lancelot as an artificial human of some sort.

Like the endless comic 'I have put the genes of all the perfect Aryan Nazis in this box, out will come a super Nazi soldier' that turns up.

Presumably with less Nazis.

>>47228315
>Quest World
I need some sleep soon. I meant Cape World.

>>47228315

I meant more from a game design perspective. Not so much an In-universe one.

>>47228278

>Galahad as Lancelot's clone baby or would that be too on the nose?

It wouldn't honestly feel right to be Galahad without him still being the highly moral, humble guy he was in the stories.

He's pretty Hero Classic in a group that's otherwise the Authority.

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>>47228119
Perhaps casually introduce super ideas slowly? Just do it so low-level it's not obvious at first, then just build on that over a few sessions. Hell, superheroes are at the core built on different genres anyway, you could put superheroes into just about any setting and get away with it.

>>47228253
>That was one of the best Superman runs ever.
I'm not even a big Superman fan, but I fucking love Supreme for how it meta it is, and how it handles its own being meta in a way that isn't grating or unoriginal like so many others. It's one of the best comics on comics you'll ever read. And I just love he he tears into the less savory parts of comics too.

>Morrison
Maybe. Though he really didn't seem to care who he insulted. One of my favorite moments was when that British guy Supreme didn't like started transforming and getting bigger, and Supreme says something along the lines of "He's a British comic book writer, he's going to become more and more complex and dense until he becomes completely unmanageable!" Man, I do need to finish Morrison's JLA though. Infinite Mass Punch and all that. Man, when did that guy just lose all his talent? I can't fucking stand him now.

Rolling! Then going to bed because I'm up way too late already.

>>47228296
Just cut that part out. Or replace it with something modern audiences will be OK with. Or just copy Thor and make it so only the "worthy" can kill the Beast, which usually means being what is now considered moral.

>>47228361

"Worthy" is always good. Adds an element of proving himself without it being tied to any given faith.

>>47228323
>Lancelot as artificial human.
That's actually a really good idea. I remember in The Once and Future King how he was OP, but he always felt incomplete because he was a ugly bugger who didn't really have much outside being the perfect knight.

That could easily be adapted as an artificial human story.

His constant desire to perform one good miracle could be interpreted as "robot wants a soul". Have him be a devoutly religious artificial human.

I remember the guy that was writing up the Cape World Knights had Lancelot reincarnate as a perfect girl, but I think I might try writing up my own versions of the New Knights. Just think of my own as the "Earth-2" versions.

>>47228349
I'm mostly thinking of the White version where he's so inhumanly perfect he scares people, but you are right. He could be a great foil.

I'm also tempted to have Merlin be the same Merlin from all the other previous cycles of Knight reincarnation, adding a twist to White's time bent Merlin. His tree Nimue stuck in in is now a forest where he wields absolute magical dominion.

What do you think?

What would Mordred be in Cape World? That's what I want to figure out.

>>47228253
>>47228361
>And I just love he he tears into the less savory parts of comics too.
One last thing: Because I'm so tired of Silver Age fanboyism now, it's frustrating. But Supreme says "Look, there was good stuff there, but sometimes they were just ridiculous." Which is totally true. I mean, half the time, the comic would just be a dumb explanation of the cover that had some sort of improbable situation on it. Fuck, when you think about it, it's like an older version of clickbait.

>>47228378
Exactly.

>>47228298
>Sounds like it could mesh with a lot of turn of the century adventure tropes. "The magical lost world" and all that.
I suppose you could make it a native American magic thing, or maybe even hint to something extra terrestrial? But perhaps with that kind of thing you can just leave it a supernatural enigma.


And yeah since it'll be a sort of spin-off mustard gas so chances are you're gonna either die horribly, or unlock your powers in one hellishly painful experience.
I'm thinking I'll have some not!capone having try outs for his super henchmen be the catalyst for the setting if I ever get around to it.

>>47228385
I don't know about Mordred, but can we have Morgause be the female villain, and have Morgan be Arthur's healer and, you know, a Fey? I'm always a fan of going back to what the original tales actually looked like, because barely anyone ever does them now, usually they just mess it up and change everything to fit our view of it (ex. Hades is the Devil).

>>47228397
>Because I'm so tired of Silver Age fanboyism

I really liked that you can tell that Moore has a genuine affection for Silver Age Superman. He's comfortable playing up the wonderment part of it while still taking the piss out of it.

>>47228361
>Bad Morrison
I thought Multiversity was excellent. Annihilator was meh and poorly constructed, but Nameless was a pure, wonderful mindfuck like a Jodorowsky film.

>11
>Energy Weapon

Interesting. She is a dancer, so maybe long ribbons made out of energy? Think Master Asia.

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>>47228385

>What do you think?

Sounds good. Old Grumpy Bastard never goes out of style.

>>47228444
Hm...I'm tempted to make Mordred less of a person and more of an event orchestrated by Morgause to fuck up Arthur and his crew.

Mordred should be the hole in things. Arthur's one big mistake, both tactically and morally (he tried to go King Herod on some babies to prevent Mordred's birth).

Or would that be a little too abstract?

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>>47228452

Are we still rolling Genie dude? or something else?

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>>47228452
Oh fuck I need to go to bed. Fine, rolling! Last time though.

>Multiversity
Eh, never really read it, just Shazam, which I thought was meh. Morrison burned a lot of his credibility in my eyes with his run on Batman (mostly Batman Inc). And I've become incredibly critical of his style of writing.

>Pic
I believe the thread was about Talia, but remember, he did the same to Magneto.

>>47228487
My sleep-deprived brain says that Mordred should be a time-paradox. Like, Arthur fucks up and Merlin makes it better, but Mordred reemmber s or soemthing and forgoet it I can't even fucking ritew now.

>>47228496
Still the Imaginary Friend Genie.

>Energy Control.

Ohhhh nice. This gives us an array.

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>>47228517
>8
INVISIBLE BLAST

Oh, but of course. Invisible imaginary genie friend.

>Mordred is a time paradox.

Yeah. That could work really, really well actually.

And...we get 3 alternate effects for the array. The first was the ENERGY WEAPONS already rolled (I fucked up and got it out of order) so we need

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Last thread someone talked about "Dawn of History" Supers. The idea basically was that Atlanteans (which in Cape World are beings that exist in the spiritual Earth, not the physical and came from a single perfect "oversoul", sort of like how angels are emanations of God, that they seek to return to and merge back with).

The Atlanteans at the dawn of history saw the rise of humanity as a miracle. Here was a race of thinking animals, not created as they were by an oversoul but hewed out of nature by time and evolution. To the Atlanteans which see eons as we do days it was as if in an instant the rocks started talking.

Humanity was something precious and beautiful. Humanity was the universe trying to communicate, trying to think as Atlanteans did.

In the time of recorded history Atlaneteans seek to keep humanity grounded to the Physical Earth. They were the archons and demiurge described by the Roman Gnostics. They believe that humanity would be corrupted by the other Earths and lose their purity. Humanity is a miracle that must be protected. What if contact with the other Earth's changed humanity? What if they became something that they wouldn't have become had they been left alone to grow and develop naturally? What if Physical Earth was trying to "say" something through its humans and the Atlateans distorted the message with their bumbling?

It wouldn't be the first time they caused a catastrophe. The separation from the oversoul was widely regarded as a mistake, a grand adventure that went too far. Atlanteans die and reincarnate, growing closer and closer back to oneness with the oversoul each time.

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>>47228554
Here's the first one.

I'm tempted to draw a few things before I go to bed. Any suggestions?

Have a rough draft for Sensei Serpent's prize student.

Sort of pictured her having big poofy "Cobra Hair" concealed behind a mask. But beyond that outfit is drawing from general east asia themes. should I do something else? CLoser to Psinobi's outfit.

Perhaps due to being a clone she has no belly button?

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>>47228202 Here.

Decided to pass on the Ritual Magic.

If anyone has experience with Hero 6e could they give a glance over, see if there are any major problems with it?

>>47228755
Try her with that foldup shield from earlier and a cobra-style hoodie.

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>>47228754
If this cosmology so far seems impenetrable do not be afraid to ask questions. It is simply some core tenants of Theosophy altered and modified.

The Formative Plane is "Spirit Earth". The Creative Plane is "Mental Earth". The Archetypal plane is the Oversoul as a whole which surrounds and binds all Three Earths.

The numbered planets mean nothing. In Theosophy planets and their people "evolve". But in Cape World planets simply have three sides to them and an Oversoul crowning it.

In Theosophy all beings reincarnate, but not so in Cape World. Only beings like the Atlanteans reincarnate, and that is because they exist in all three Earths at once. They abandoned their physical bodies long ago which remain only as potential "suits" a few rogue Atlanteans not wanting to go back to the Oversoul inhabit at will. Their spiritual forms die and change (all spiritual forms can die in Cape World).

Spirit, as in Theosophy and Thelema and Plato, is not immortal. Rather it is the divine intellect, the dreams and thought-forms of the Mental Earth, that are immortal.

Edgar Cayce compared the process of reincarnation to being a sleeper that awakens from a dream and then goes back to dream another dream. The dream is the personal life of an individual. When he dies he is awaken into mental reality and recognizes his personal life as a dream but is enriched by the experience. The dream personality, the physical and spiritual existence. dissolves and dies. The rational sleeper is all that survives from dream to dream.

This is how it is for the Atlanteans. Their entire existence outside the Oversoul was in fact an attempt by the Oversoul to enrich itself with a dream it has now found itself trapped in.

>>47228755
>7
Energy Weapons, now Energy Constructs.

She can make weapons and anything really. Again, perfect as a thought-form.

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>>47228870
>>47228755
Seconding this. Also want to see what Bob Cat looks like, or Meowing Midori. Or the two of them fighting in that tournament.

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>>47228754
They are constantly thwarted in the modern period with their attempts to block passage through the worlds, both from humans and from inhabitants of the Spirit and Mental Earths. Atlanteans are powerful but not omnipotent, and as they come closer and closer to rejoining the Oversoul they lose more and more power over the Mental, Spiritual, and Physical Earth. Every day beings find it easier and easier to find holes in their barriers between the Earths.

And they absolutely have no power outside the Earths. The Oversoul does not extend beyond the Earth, and in fact the first scientifically documented excursion into a realm of pure spirit came about in the late 19th century when mankind stated to explore the spiritual sides of the Oversouls on other planets by means of astral projections.

In Cape World it is only the physical sides of the other planets in the solar system that are dead and lifeless. The solar system is a vibrant place when only the spiritual side is taken into account. It is here that one finds Barsoom on Mars and the Selenite Empire on the moon. And the Atlanteans could not stop humanity from exploring these regions.

The Atlanteans were not always what Thelemists and Mystics call "the watchers on the threshold" policing the walls between Earths. There was a time when they embraced humanity and rather than separate the Earths blended them together to create the primal Dream-Time.

The Primal Dream Time was a world of great beauty and great terrors. Time and Space were fluid, and it is here that one finds the first Arthur and the first Camelot.

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>>47228755
I think shorter hair would fit her time as a villain since she's supposed to be a killing machine and long hair is something easy for the enemy to grab on to. When she joins the heroes she starts growing it out because it's something Tyrant and Serpent wouldn't allow her to do.

For the outfit itself I'm liking it so far. I think including some form of snake eyes on the outfit or the shield would be cool though

>>47228755
Doc Chase and Harpy fighting over Trinity

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>>47229026
I gave it another go. Sort of added Viper Hood patterns to a hoodie.

And gave her shorter hair (in the style of fangs for the hood).

What is this viper girl's name again? Have we settled on anything?

I was thinking Viperstrike, and thought it could shorten down to V.S. or "Versus", which seems more appropriate for her "cloned student" heritage.

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>>47229082
Possible serpent shield detail.

>>47229082
I think it was between Viper or Snakeskin.

Anyways good job on the art

>>47228983
The Dream-Time survives through what is called by para-scientists the racial memory, by mystics the eternal dreaming and the eternal song lines. The Atlanteans may have destroyed this time period but a palimpsest survives on the hearts of all living beings. This is the inner fire that appeared in Acts. This is the silver cord that was cut in Ecclesiastes. This is Jacob's Ladder, this is the "as above so as below" of Thelema.

For there is ever a little spirit and mind inside the physical, and a little of the physical inside each of them. And although the Atlanteans may seek to keep the worlds apart it is a natural law that drives them to blend and mingle. And the Atlanteans cannot stop nature, only delay it. For while the Atlanteans are powerful they are not omnipotent.

Going to try and get some rest now. I hope you guys don't hate my cosmology I'm building for cape world. I'm going to write what happened in the Dream-Time when Atlanteans interbred with humans to create the first superhumans "Homo Dynamicus" and what happened to make Arthur and his mythos reincarnate throughout time like a bunch of Atlanteans.

>>47229082
>Name

Viperstrike works. Its a lot better than my idea of calling her Cobra.

>>47228755
She looks a little like Cutie Honey to me.

Is that a scar? How did she get that with the healing factor? It must have been one hell of a strike.

>>47229141
>Is that a scar? How did she get that with the healing factor? It must have been one hell of a strike.
Oh forgot about that. Nix that from the concept.

scars and rigorous training go together like... i dunno... a metaphor?

>>47229082
>Suddenly notice her hair are the fangs of the hood

Holy shit that's cool!

>>47229136
Right I forgot about Snakeskin.

Refers to "rebirth" and the defensive layer of the snake thus shield.

I half swear Viper is bound to be a villain name somewhere anyways.

Also, thought here, civilian name name for her could be something like Hebi Song.

Hebi being Japanese for either Snake or Viper.

>>47229215
Clever.

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>>47229215
With her middle initial as M.
For metal.
Hebi Metal Song.

A civilian name could be something she "gets herself once she breaks free of Johnny Song's Influence.

Pic unrelated.

Hairstyles and colors.
Short "Fang" haircut blooms into a poofy Cobra hood shaped one with neglect.

>>47229281
Should the "imaginary genie" we're rolling for be a baddie? She's adorable but Science Tyrant's team already has an adorable girl that'll eventually go good.

>>47229443
Frankly they were feeling more heroic in nature with a little bit of Mr. Magoo hapless dope stumbling into danger and having to be saved by the genie.

>>47229459
Yeah I want to take that direction as well. It's just too damn cute. Johnny Thunderbolt crossed with I Dream of Jeannie.

How about making it about a guy that lost his family in a super baddie attack and decides to put on a costume to protect people even if he has no skills or powers. He attracts a thought form to protect him drawn and powered by the residual love of his departed family.

Could that work or is it a little too dark?

Also, as the guy doing the cosmology stuff I got to know, is it any good? Am I just wasting my time writing all that stuff?

>>47229538
an entire family dead? probably not. Too dark. A singular well respected grandfather or dad or mom? Hell you can make it that the "Genie" latched onto him after the previous attache died.

Random idea.
Perhaps his grandma was a fortuneteller in a small town. She dies, and the thoughtform starts following the grandson? Because the grandma predicted "something horrible will happen to him" and left that as the genie's mission. To prevent that horrible thing from ever happening.

whatever that horrid thing is. Assuming it even exists.

>>47229617
I like it! We tone it down to maybe just his brother.

I like the twist with the fortune telling grandma. Really cool.

>>47229617
What's the name of this brave and assertive but only when no one knows she's there thought-form genie?

>>47230125
Something simple and catchy like Guardian Genie?

But that's just what those "in the know" call her. Because as we've established she stays hidden and makes things work for her charge. It's her charge who is the "face" of the duo in most cases.

I see the guy as being slightly on the "joke" side of superhero. He's tried to get into the American DIY Superpower subculture (I see USA as being very loose with power regulations and experimentation compared to other countries. You're allowed to set up a Tony Stark shed if you pass the tests for your licenses).

But his "super suit" is a joke. Think a garage shed gadgeteer, a guy that would be better off trying to be Casey Jones but goes for the Blue Beetle.

His grapple hooks would break, his boomerangs would miss and not come back, and his blaster would fizzle in his hands...but instead they work, and its not because of his own doing but because his Guardian Genie either does the effects herself or uses her probability powers to make it work.

He sort of catches on that his gear isn't working, and he tries to improve it and his handling technique, but he's just not competent enough to pull it off.

So he tries to compensate with bluster and pizzazz. And views his attacks as "coordinating" his Guardian Genie's attacks, but that's being very, very generous to his "tactics".

Let's call our wanna-be hero THE IMPOSSIBLE FLURRY because in a fight he goes into a flurry like a spaz and yet he pulls off the impossible and saves the day.

THE IMPOSSIBLE FLURRY AND GUARDIAN GENIE

Ultimately they complete each other. He projects the Charisma and bravery she would show to people if she wasn't so shy and she provides the super powers he would have if he wasn't so incompetent.

Is this a pretty good description of our latest creation attempt?

>>47229538
>Could that work or is it a little too dark?
Way too dark. What I get from this is a man who loses everyone he loves and turns into a deathseeker because of it. Don't get me wrong, it sounds like a great pitch, it could be really interesting in the right hands and in the right setting. But not for Johnny Thunderbolt-esque hijinks.

>>47229617
This sounds good, and I like that it's very flexible, not tied to really anything that can change.

>>47230834
>(I see USA as being very loose with power regulations and experimentation compared to other countries. You're allowed to set up a Tony Stark shed if you pass the tests for your licenses).
Basically. This is what happens in comics too, more or less. I'm pretty sure Captain Britain's reaction to hearing about the Civil War was more or less "Oh, you're just doing superhero registration now?" If you wanted an excuse for it, I guess you could pass it off as a consequence of the US not being as socialized as many European countries.

I'm not so sure about the suit, but if you really want him to be a standard sort of "cape or cowl" superhero, then yeah, that works. Though... I dunno, I feel like the character's too smart for his own good. Like, with this guy, I actually believe he'll mess up the dynamic somehow. I mean, just knowing about the genie kinda puts it in danger. What if he lets it slip to other? H- Wait, no, that actually makes it even better! He tells his teammates about the genie, but she'll always foil their attempts at detecting her, discrediting the guy.

>>47231005
>I'm not so sure about the suit, but if you really want him to be a standard sort of "cape or cowl" superhero, then yeah, that works

Yeah. Cape and Cowl was the feel I was going for.

>What if he lets it slip to other? H- Wait, no, that actually makes it even better! He tells his teammates about the genie, but she'll always foil their attempts at detecting her, discrediting the guy.

This could be fun. It gets even better. Say they're based in Albany and run up against Science Tyrant. Science Tyrant is going to have a fit. Here's this goofball interloper, but he's actually really skilled! He can't stop him! Clearly he's some sort of super powered genius only PRETENDING to be incompetent. He's mocking Science Tyrant!

"Superpowered genie protector" he says. Oh no, you can't fool the scanners of Science Tyrant! The Impossible Flurry is on to you and your mind games Impossible Flurry!

It also helps that Impossible Flurry could easily get into a ham-off with Science Tyrant with his Guardian Genie egging on the bantz.

>>47231099
>"Superpowered genie protector" he says.
I think I would make it so the guy's never 100% sure the genie's going to help him though. Like, I don't want him to just walk into a hail of gunfire because he goes "Oh, the genie will protect me."

>>47231128
That's a good point. She shouldn't be like his stand. Maybe it's less he knows about her and more he was a "feeling" he's blessed by his Grandma's magic and thinks whenever something works out its just the blessing making him lucky.

Either that or he knows the Genie is there but knows she's not infallible. He's gotten hit on her watch and she's very, very sorry when it happens but she can't see every attack coming (it'll be adorable to see her fret and worry over him in a hospital bed for a broken arm blaming herself for what happened and him telling her its fine, he got carried away)

What way would be better? Him knowing about the genie or not?

>>47231236
Yeah, I think it would be better if he didn't know for certain, but had a feeling. I mean, Johnny Thunderbolt justified it by bring born lucky. Actually, thinking about it now, I'm wondering if he should have magic-based powers, since it ties into the genie and his grandmother.

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I know we're still rolling up Impossible Flurry and Guardian Genie, but sense the thread is "historical supers" themed I think it would be cool if we could roll up some Old West capes and black hats.

I love Old West capes...

>>47231299
Yeah, I was kinda worried the two of us were taking over the thread. But nobody else was really posting either.

>roll up
D20?

>>47231277
>Had a feeling
That's reasonable. And he could gradually get closer and closer to the truth as his and her story develops until she finally appears before him.

HAUNTER could have a crossover with them where she -knows- the Genie is there and wants her to come clean, believing thought-forms and their humans should understand each other completely and without secrets. And after saving the day with The Impossible Flurry Haunter sits down and talks with her woman to genie girl, and after getting to know her decides that she'll let Guardian Genie decide for herself when its best to tell her charge.

>Him having magic based powers
I don't see why we should keep completely bound by the randomization rolls. He can know a little magic just so long as it's nothing powerful enough to make him not need Guardian Genie.

>>47231320
I"m afraid I'm going to have to call it a night. It's just about 7 AM where I'm at and I need sleep. I'm sure there will be people that will want to roll as the sun comes up though. Don't give up hope!

So how long will it take for /shg/ to stop coming up with incredibly lame superheroes?

I mean really guys, "Impossible Flurry" and "Country Gal"?

>>47231320
You fucks have taken over the past half dozen threads

>>47231362
>Him having magic based powers

I can see him having the smoke bombs/flash paper/ sleight of hand stage magic- not knowing that he would have true magic powers, if he just believed.

>>47231438
Cape world is obviously high camp. Also "country gal" is intentionally lame

>>47231438
see, all the good names have been taken.

There are pros and cons to collaborative creation. A lot of this allows people to have characters they can port into their campaigns as PCs or NPC's, and change the names and details as you wish.

>>47231447
>past half dozen threads
I've been in this thread and the last one and that's it, sorry.

>>47231438
Yeah, I wasn't a big fan of "Impossible Flurry." I'll try to think of something better, but not now since it seems the thread's had enough of that character for now. "Country Gal" doesn't seem so bad to me though.

I hope cape world tackles different parts of the world beyond Japan and the US.
Cape Australia...well it's probably going to be boring. We don't have much down here. Lots of animal themed supers?

>>47231497
You could easily start doing mystic stuff with dreamtime. As for being boring, all you need is a villain or some kind of overarching problem to shake things up.

>>47231497
How about a Ra's Al Ghul type villain who wants Australia to be green again? ... even at horrible costs?

>>47231760
>>47231813
or maybe both of these things simultaneously.

Wheres all the mega villains like galactus and what not?

>>47232158
Ugh, cosmic-level villains like Galactus are boring because either the plot has to bend in on itself to explain why they don't kill all the heroes, or it turns out they're not really villains, such as Galactus, who at the end of the day is just a galactic parasite, a sort of cosmic tick.

>>47232217
Galactus was just the first big villain i could think of.

>>47232269
Right, I know. But still, the problem remains that, if you have a character like this, you have to have a good explanation as to why they don't show up outside of the big events. Actually, thinking about it now, I can't really think of many huge cosmic-level villains, or heroes. Probably due to the things I just mentioned. Huh, maybe... Darkseid and the Anti-Monitor? Ugh, but Anti is like Doomsday, a plot device for an event, he has no purpose beyond that. And sadly, Darkseid is similar, though I guess you might be able to justify his absence by stating he's kept busy with affairs on Apokolips and a war with New Genesis.

>>47231497
A kangaroo themed boxer? Some sort of badass normal poacher? A lizard knockoff? A mythically empowered aborgine? Koala Lex Luthor? A mutated platypus? Tasmanian Devil? Something snake related?

Should I continue brainstorming?

>>47231497
Australia is home to a coral hero sort of a swamp thing for the grate barrier reef.
Some campy villains like check mate a riddler type that has a cork string hat with chess pieces as the corks.
Flaming crow a flying Pryomanic who has a reputation for being crude.
Tasmanian Tiger a stealthy solo vigilante who mainly operates in the south of the county.
Red centre: sand villain who blackmails people with famine and sand storms.
Blue ring a venomous octopus super not known if a hero or villain

>>47232437
Not him, but the problem of doing supers that are directly related to something in a foreign area is that it's very shallow. You need to have generic sorts of characters that could fit in anywhere, but just so happen to appear in Australia. Look at Batman, Superman, and Spider-Man, absolutely nothing about them restricts them specifically to America. And there have been Elseworlds and What If?s about them being in different countries. If you don't do the generic sort of stuff, it feels like all you know how to write outside of the US is stereotypes.

>>47231497
What would cape Australia culture be like? Cheering the underdog, having the biggest inferiority complex in the Southern Hemisphere, a back and forth jolking with English heroes? Few guns ? A big mix of other heroes who have migrated older generation from Europe younger from Asia. It might be a good place for factions from other more established orgaisations to fight for fresh ground and for culture to clash.

>>47232577
Well yeah, you´re probably right. I try to think of ideas and most of the time it´s stuff like the above post of mine. Probably because I never went to those countries, I end up using what I saw on tv or read on the internet for ideas. Going to try and come up with something less stereotypical next time.

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>>47232630
Well, does anyone have a character generator like that one anon was using? That would make it a lot easier to cone up with characters for the Aussie Avengers.

>>47232656
HeroLabs?

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What if we bury a huge Lovecraftian entity in Australia? Can be responsible for most of the supers there and drive some plots, as well as giving Australia its own unique feel.

>>47232705
How long has it been there?
How does it give people powers?
Is there any chance it might come out soon?

>>47232746
Maybe someone dumped it there a few centuries or even mellenia ago. Because the entity tends to corrupt and mutate the land in inhabits?

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>>47232705
In the middle of the county is Uluru A huge red sandstone rock formation that sticks out of the grass and sand it could be like a seal for the creature it is revered as sacred and no one is allowed to climb it. Could there be something on the top of it

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>>47232705
Okay I just looked at some Australian mythology, and they have legends of an aquatic rainbow serpent-like creature from the dark streak in the Milky Way that grants people magic powers.

Seriously.

>>47232824
Let´s think about an appropritate mystic then, or should we roll?

>>47232824
and norse mythology has a giant snake that completely wraps around Midgard

>>47232824
The Rainbow Serpent(s) myth is really interesting. Also, it should be noted that it's very likely the oldest remaining deity. Motherfucker's been around since the last Ice Age.

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>>47232897
Huh. I had no idea - just wanted ideas for an Australian Cthulu monster.

This thing is cool though.

So how does /shg/ like its extraterrestrial stuff? I like the options it opens up for a game, but one of my players told me he wasn't keen on it because having a whole universe of shit going on detracts from the importance of what does on on Earth

>>47233893
It really depends on who you go to. But if you want Earth to be important, it's probably not going to be for you. The thing about the superhero setting is that, outside of superhuman/natural stuff, their world, or at least their Earth, is very similar to ours. So doing cosmic stuff pretty much necessitates putting Earth in a corner without much attention. Most attempts at making Earth important in a cosmic superhero story just fall flat and feel shoehorned. But there are quite a few people who are tired of everything being about Earth and Humans, and are totally fine with this. Hell, this was one of the draws of the old cosmic Marvel stuff (about Annihilation to Thanos Imperative) is that Earth pretty much never came up, it was completely unimportant. The aliens treated Earth like it was a podunk town in the middle of Bumfuck, Nowhere. And then you had stuff like the relaunched Guardians of the Galaxy, where they're the Avengers of Earth, IN SPACE! (Yes, it's as redundant as it sounds.) And then you had Infinity, where a pangalactic alliance of incredibly advanced alien races fighting for survival against one giant threat decide to follow... the few dozen superpowered humans from Earth. Why? Because plot, that's why.

TL;DR The amount of cosmic stuff you use in your game is inversely related to how important Earth will be in your game.

>Want to make a Weaver Dice campaign
>It's not finished
>No one I know has read Worm
>Never GM'd before

kill me

>>47234105
>Worm
Oh, that web novel, right? Man, I've been meaning to read that for... ever, really. Sorry, just can't break myself away from Craft Sequence right now.

>>47234184
You'll probably be reading it forever too. It's 1.7 million words long I think.

>>47234204
I read comics. I followed Secret War (2015), and most of the stuff leading up to it. I think I'll be fine.

>>47234105
Sweet, I didn't know Worm had an RPG. Googled the system - is it any good?

>>47234255
>>47234105
The character & power generation stuff is neat, I'm not too fond of the actual system though. After the first session we just scrapped it and used Wild Talents.

Goddammit, some guy archived thread #5 with "world building" tag with a space in it so it doesn't show up with the rest.

>>47234434
You can't change it?

>>47234508
There's no automated system. It's just sending a email to the admin and hoping he'd care.

>>47234532
(which I've just did so now we hope)

>>47234605
Is your ring at full capacity, anon?

>>47229082
So Trinity,Psinobi and Snakeskin form Birds of Prey when?

>>47236003
>Trinity
Do you guys use /co/'s OC's?

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>>47236040
nope, these are /tg/ created. I know of what /co/ creations you speak of, though.

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>>47236308
oh geez
oh man
crossover supercrisis

>>47236979
Ugh, you don't need that guy and his "Oh, look at me everyone, I'm so meta!" bullshit to do a crossover. Anyone can do a crossover.

Actually, now that I think about it, has anyone done agame thar had a crossover element to it?

>>47236979
/co/lette best girl

>>47237256
Not quite players or even GM but I know the Engine Heart guy wrote some modules that crossed over with other things.

>>47237256
I've toyed with the idea, but it seems to me that most settings/fictional worlds have enough interesting shit in them on their own.
... And are dangerously clusterfucky enough on their own.

So I had an idea for either a hero or villain, all I have is the power so far. The power would be to recall the memories of a place. For an example if he was a hero he would be in San Antonio, Texas and during some sort of attack he would “remember the Alamo” and summon semi-corporeal memories of the soldiers that defended the Alamo, to attack, again it depends on the area he uses his power to “remember”. He can only use this power 3-4 times a day and can last as long as 1-2 hours and can only remember events up to 200 years in the past. As a villain he could use this to terrible effect, like remembering the 9/11 event to destroy more buildings. What do you guys think?

>>47238157
Sounds pretty Jojo, which is a good thing. The number of times per day and the duration limit seem pretty arbitrary though. Would he be able to tone his power down and use it for psychometry?

>>47238191
i had not really thought about that, but the power works off things He knows. So if he goes to england and tries to Use his power there it wont work because he does not know the history of the land to make the connection to the memories.

>>47238277
That seems like enough of a limitation on its own. Unless he's on familiar ground or does his research he won't be nearly as effective

Is this accurate for an typical superhero setting?

Golden Age - World War 2
Silver Age - Cold War Era
Dark Age - Where shit like the punisher first starts to appear and superheroes are almost nonexistent
Modern Age - Superheroes reemerge and start saving the day again

Trying to build an setting with lots of time travel involved.

>>47238555
Kind of. The M&M Gamemaster's Guide goes into more detail on each Age.

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Just did a couple sketches of the Idaho Statesman and his/its prototype brother.

Gemstone and Mr. Titan.

Both powered by the higher dimensional mineral enhanced Super Spud devised by none other than Dr. Thaddeus Tuberous.

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just to get conversation started back up again we have cape world's hydra in the form of DECK what would it's S.H.I.E.L.D be?
would it be UN or run by a single nation?

>>47240002
>would it be UN
Despite what Civil War might tell you, the UN has little, if any, actual power. It's just a country club.

>>47231438
>Incompetent super whose supposed to be a joke
>Girl forced to adopt a lame name by her Hollywood minders

They're supposed to be camp. It's almost as if you don't read these threads.

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>>47231438
As >>47231461 and >>47240169 pointed out, Country Gal was an intentionally bad name. The character was originally named Barnstormer when she lived in Kansas, but after moving to Hollywood, the powers that be forcibly rebranded her into something that, in their minds, was easily digestable by the Hollywood public but was in fact super lame and even partially offensive.

It becomes a major character arc that she reclaims her original hero name.

>>47240002
I think one of Cape World's greatest strong points is that it is pretty diverse.

The focus is definitely on the United States right now because of the Statesmen, and may continue to be so, but there's been content and worldbuilding for other countries. Germany is one we've focused on a lot in the past.

Which is all just my roundabout way of saying that I think we should have multiple SHIELD-esque agencies. Maybe one for every nation with a significant superhero presence, or even multiple agencies in one nation. I remember there being some talk of superheroes fighting in wars, maybe different agencies employ different heroes for different things? Maybe different agencies, international and of the same nation, come into conflict over some things?

As a way to build up to this abundance of superhero associations, maybe there was something more like Shield; secretive and unique and focused on defending the world; in the past when public recognition and acceptance of superpowers was still new.

As time goes on, more heroes emerge, and different societies grow to accept and trust or even rely on them more, more agencies hire more heroes. A single secret squad evolves into a publicly recognized justice league, after which other nations form their own leagues of superheroes, and some nations may even have multiple agencies. We could get some fun conspiracy or international intrigue from interactions between these groups.

The Statesmen provide some potential for that kind of thing. Finding some unrest among each other with criminals fleeing to other states, or with a completely separate federal superhero agencies in some Winter Soldier sort of thing?

I like the idea that the Australian concept of The Dreaming is like a "memory" of the Dream-TIme when spirit and matter were one. It reminds me of the mythology where the gods created the world during the Dream-Time but they still exist in The Dreaming and their influence is still felt in song-lines throughout Australia.

The song-lines in this case being palimpsests of the primal Dream-Time.

>>47232789
Potential base of operations for Aussie heroes?

>>47232824
>>47232897
>>47232824
Rainbow Serpent should be bro and chill as fuck. He's the oldest god, one of the great primal gods that Alien God Killer and others fought, but he wasn't exiled/killed,

He's like the ultimate-daddy god. And his seniority ties into Australia being "Primal Dream Time" themed

>>47240286
I'm trying to come up with a giant based on JORMUNGAND from norse mythology. i think a bunch of heroes/villians based on mythology that are actually true would be pretty awesome.

>>47240002
For a UN team...

...anyone want to do a Satesmen but themed on countries? Some ex-cape UN rep is frustrated because there's no big international super team. All the teams that save the world usually are affiliated with one country or the other. Thing "Justice League of AMERICA".

It it bothers this guy because he wants the world to be united and stand as one, damn i! He looks at the Hectonchires organization and he wants something multinational to match it.

So he takes a page from the American Statesmen project and decides to try that, but on a global scale. The team, like the Statesmen, is more or less a PR move that isn't intended to do any major operations, but it could provide an opportunity to do some world building.

ANYONE WANT TO DO SOME UNITED HEROES?

>>47240002
I think the House of Cards sounds a lot better than DECK desu flan

>>47240286
Given how common nazis tend to be in supers settings Mossad could make a neat base for a SHIELD-like agency

>>47239734
>Tater Titan blue and Gemstone red

Shouldn't it be the other way around?

...should we give them a robot "sister"? Maybe someone Dr Tuberous made to keep them from fighting?

>>47240389
>opportunity to do some world building.
Well that's always a good thing.

First I think we should come up with a better idea of what this is, though. Is it ineffective and mostly just for symbolism and shit? Not an actual functioning force?
I think we should treat every nation's rep differently based on what that nation's attitude towards the UN and superheroes and it's current superhero situation is. For every individual nation, ask if they would send a powerhouse who can actually fight against global threats, someone more of a celebrity than a superhero who is just there to make the nation look good, or even just an absolute shit-tier superhero because an international superhero rep was suddenly deemed mandatory and they don't know what to do with this guy.

In the end we can come up with a very diverse group and, like you said, a ton of international world building.

>>47240537
I think a functioning force with one representative from every country would be awesome.

>>47240389
>>47240537
There are a shit ton of United Nations member nations, I think it'd be more feasible if we tightened the team to G8 or G20 nations.

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>>47239734
I love that Tater Titan just shovels gemstones into his chest blast furnace style while Gemstone slots them into his body, its a neat touch.

I figure Gemstone being the new model is able to efficiently use single gemstones and get the most out of them before having to switch out while Tater Titan just uses gemstones as fuel, unable to do the cool "gem tricks" his brother can.

>>47228754
>>47228891
>>47228983
>>47229141
Guy writing the DEEPEST LORE cosmology. Do you guys like the direction I'm taking it or should I stop and fuck off?

>>47232498
>>47232437
>>47232620
You need Gef the Mongoose for an Aussie team. Think Rikki Tikki Tavi but as a supernatural poltergeist defender with a variety of magical powers that can talk. That's Gef.

He might be to Australia as Bob Cat is to the Mississippi river, a spirit that crossed over from Spiritual Earth and decided to stay and protect the place.

>>47240650
The homo dynamicus stuff is kind of meh but everything else is golden

>>47240394
I thought the way it was divided was pretty neat. DECK is the name of the entire organization. THE HOUSE refers to the superstructure that props up the organization and its stable of supers that actually work directly for it. DEALER is its super villain support service providing resources, contacts, and cheapo minions called MARKERS to their clients which are called CARDS.

Their DECK SYSTEM of classification was adopted by the US as a general classification for super criminals, but its not used by the world at large (think imperial vs metric measurements).

>>47240603
We can start with G8 and spin off from there is we're feeling brave.

>>47240567
>>47240537
It's actual functional. It's UN rep backer wants them to go far and do things, but they aren't intended to be a replacement or rival to the "planetary threat" level super teams around the world.

You can still have that range of capes you're talking about. They're a mix of function and PR fluff, so you can have a mix of shit-tier and powerhouse and celebrity.

>>47240567
I'm thinking something like DC's global guardians but not sucky. Or the Hanna-Barbara super friends addictions but not sucky.

>Mossad
>Story about the last days of a Nazi cape on the run.

There's potential there.

>>47240650
This cosmology is getting pretty crazy.

>>47240537
personally I feel that a UN team should be a all stars team of the world heroes, the best of the best basically.
maybe have them be a somewhat informal group made to deal with possible problems that may not ever happen such as a invasion by aliens or some galatus teir being.
have them act as a vanguard to slow down the bad guys and get some info on them so the rest of the world can get ready to defend them selves.
with any luck the world with never have to use them.

>>47240734
Thanks man, I'll continue to develop it out then.

The homo dynamicus stuff is just to justify the reincarnation angle of the Knights. They're part Atlantean so they have bodies on all the Earths.

We could even go full mind trip and do stuff like have the current Arthur meet with his sleeping Mental body entombed on Avalon. It was discussed that a theme of the Knights would be "how much of them is themselves and how much of them are their mythos" and that could be framed as a struggle between their physical earth personalities and their immortal mental earth bodies.

Arthur is the once and future king. "He" will be here when his current incarnation is gone just like he survived the last incarnations, always sleeping on Avalon.

>>47240650
>Gef the Mongoose

Is that the Manx spelling of Geoff or Jeff? That bruised my brain for a moment.

>>47240813
What you are talking about sounds interesting and fitting in this setting, but I think that would be better as something other than the UN.

Personally I think the UN team should have a good amount of fluff and less than the best of the best. Not only is that fitting, but it gives us examples on all the variety between the powerlevels of heroes, as well as giving us more freedom to explore and build the Capeworld of other nations.

But again, that's a great idea. An international team not concerned with politics but with truly creating the very best of the best all star team sounds good, so I think that should exist, but be separate from the UN which is largely built on political fluff. Not to say that a member of the UN team couldn't be a member of your all star team, really if it is so rare that they are called upon then they should be free to join other organizations as well.

Maybe even make their membership with the all stars team a secret. A secretive all star team would be free to really pursue the best possible heroes without worrying about the political fluff you don't seem to want, they could fight off alien invasions before they appear in Earth's visible space, consort with demons, even make full use of those stockpiles of Nazi technology the Germans are sitting on without fear of bad PR.

>>47240874
If Arthur reincarnated as a girl could he fuck his mental body, get preggers, and give birth to his own inbred self?

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>>47240874
> current Arthur meet with his sleeping Mental body entombed on Avalon
that would be pretty cool if it were a show, you could have it change it's look every time it showed up on screen to represent each incarnation. maybe have saber show up as a split second gag

>>47240949
>A secretive all star team would be free to really pursue the best possible heroes without worrying about the political fluff you don't seem to want, they could fight off alien invasions before they appear in Earth's visible space, consort with demons, even make full use of those stockpiles of Nazi technology the Germans are sitting on without fear of bad PR.
that sounds pretty cool though from what I gathered from previous threads, this earths kind of a back water so any alien invasions would be a really big deal.
the idea I had with them was "hopefully we will never have to be used but if we are then everything has gone tits up"

>>47240877
Not sure, but it probably is. You can google Gef, I'm not making him up. You can't make up things as crazy as "poltergeist tutelary spirit mongoose that talks"

>>47240796
I think of it like Jack Kirby cosmology. It's big and intimidating but its alright if you have a human element to ground it. I think the Knights can be that grounding element.

I'm not the guy that wrote up the descriptions in the previous threads, but I'm going to try my hand at the Knights because I love doomed, brave heroes.

ARTHUR

Very classical. A kid from the countryside who people think is a little off because he talks to the trees in the local forest (its Merlin, once a tree because of Nimue and now an entire forest because he doesn't reincarnate like the other members of the mythos. He's the "same" Merlin that has always been). He can also see and interact with Spirit Earth, and he's become friends with the elves an faeries of the forest.

The story would open up by showing his character. He's polite and humble around both the elves and the human people he interacts with. He apologizes for hitting a guys car just as he apologizes for stepping into a faerie circle. He's a good guy.

And then he's visited by the Lady of the Lake-a Rogue Atlantean who lives in Physical Earth cut off form her other bodies and patron of the Mythos. Like Merlin she doesn't reincarnate and watches over the Mythos, making sure nothing bad happens to them before its time for them to "awaken" to their destiny.

For his drawing of the sword, lets blend the stories. The Lady of the Lake ices up his local pawn and sticks a sword in the middle of it and tells him that the Mythos will be reborn when he pulls it, that incredible power will be his. that he will create on Earth the paradise of Camelot that is doomed to fall and pass as it has in the past, and that pulling the sword will awaken him to his mental body and from that point on he will become less like he is now and more like the Arthur of legend.

>>47240972
Oh boy, that would he one hell of a Mordred wouldn't it?

>>47241137
Arthur being humble and not liking the idea of suddenly adding super drama to the lives of other people he doesn't even know-

"Oh." The Lady of the Lake replies with a sad smile. "But you DO know them. You simply do not remember them, O Once and Future King"

-decides not to take up the sword. So the Lady of the Lake does what she's done several times in the past. She forces his hand.

Think of it as a darker take on Arthur not "trying" to pull the sword from the anvil. He pulls it for another person. He pulls it because his brother Kay has to have something to use in his tournament.

Just like in the past modern Arthur pulls it for Kay, in this incarnation his fiery adopted older sister. The Lady of the Lake has trapped her under the ice and Arthur needs something to break the ice...

So he draws it, and sets the wheels of destiny in motion. Around England and other parts of the world members of the Mythos awaken to their true selves and begin to develop super powers.

"Look at this." Arthur turned from the magic mirror and spoke angrily to the Lady. "Some of them can't control their powers. Some of them barely know what they are. They're smashing cities, they're hurting people!"

"So go out there." The Lady replied coolly. "Go out there and stop them. Help them. Teach them. Rule them. Yours is the power to do so."

Appearance wise I'm thinking very Action Comics Grant Morrison Superman. T-shirt, blue jeans, tennis shoes, and a big cape given to him to wear by his mother and faerie friends to make him look less like a jabroni with a sword and more like a King, and to keep him warm no matter where on Earth he is.

He doesn't wear a crown. The Lady of the Lake said that before its all over he will. He always has. But he's putting it off as long as possible.

-cont

im liking how cape Australia is shaping up, have it be a land closer to the dreaming world than most places, with Rainbow serpent giving out powers like Tim-Tams we could use more abo lore like their Bunyips and Yowies too. I think a lot of conflict could be had from people falling into the dreaming by accident/ the dreaming leaking into places and causing natural disaster level strife

>>47241475
And to riff off how the rest of the world thinks every animal here is super deadly the dreaming making new types of deadly and strange beasties roaming around the outback and under the occasional dunny lid

So what part of Cape World are we working on now?

>>47241428

Excalibur and the Scabbard are always by his side. The scabbard protects him from all sorts of harm. Excalibur cuts through anything-anything. I'm thinking about making it like The Executioner's Axe from the Legion of Superheros. As Arthur becomes more and more like his old self he learns how to do "tricks" with Excalibur like cutting through magic spells and space.

Anyone remember The Hand from JoJo? Like that, but Arthur's smart with how he uses it.

At his highest level of mastery he starts becoming a Fisher King and the lands that he controls respond to his physical and emotional state.

Personality wise think Optimus Prime. He's charismatic, authoritative, but always thinks of the little guy. Power and privilege don't impress him at all.

He's chivalrous. He doesn't like hitting girls, and doesn't attack helpless opponents or opponents that surrender. But he's also a bit more violent than most capes. Don't threaten innocent people. He's not going to pull his punches with his sword of cut-everything if you do.

>>47241521
>Australia
>King Arthur
>U.N. Superhero team
>Possibly a second international superhero team, focused on putting together the very best of the best all star team for apocalyptic threats, so more secretive and less for political fluff than the U.N. team

We recently finished all 50 Statesmen, if you didn't know.

>>47241521
Kangaroo land with a side helping of Knight land I think.

>>47241475
>>47241514
Yeah, this is how it should be. The Dreaming makes Austrlia this big hole in the Atlantean's wall between the Earths. The Mental Physical and Spiritual Earths blend and mesh in Australia.

Aussie land is mystic capital of Cape World. The "Sorcerer Supreme" is probably from Australia.

Think The Maxx where different worlds keep overlapping. That's Australia.

I imagine the position of the Aborigines in Cape World is a lot better than in real life. The colonists likely needed their help to deal with the fuck-weird Dreaming beasties of the outback.

Could there be a king of D&D bestiary of Cape World Outback creatures?

Cape World Outback should be a hell of a place.

>>47240453
>...should we give them a robot "sister"? Maybe someone Dr Tuberous made to keep them from fighting?
Is this going to turn into potato-fringed versions of Dr. Light, Roll, MegaMan, and ProtoMan?

Because I am okay with this.

>>47241692
Her name is Chips, and she uses power gems refined into micro chips. She's not as powerful as her brothers but her refined gems allow her to use gem-power with more versatility and control.

She has nothing to do with Potato Chips and god help you if you make another joke about it.

>>47241514
Ooooo idea! The source of the twisted beasties is a very big dream beasty
ECHIDNA-THE MOTHER OF MONSTERS!
Think shub-niggurath villainess that wants to see the world covered in her gross spawn, enemy to the rainbow serpent and alien God-killer and pretty much everyone else that enjoys being alive

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>>47241521
well we've done japan, Germany, and America along with bits of England maybe we should do cape Canada?
>>47241584
maybe you could add in some of Arthurs other weapons?
Excalibur's his main but he could still use some of his other stuff when the need calls for it.
Excalibur - The sword King Arthur got from the lady of the lake.
Clarent – King Arthur's sword of peace. Also known as the Coward's Blade, as it is the sword Mordred, his son, stole and later used to kill King Arthur.
Carnwennan - King Arthur's dagger, sometimes described to shroud the user in shadow.
Rhongomiant - King Arthur's Spear

I'm going through and pasting some of our old work. here are the Blockbusters

http://pastebin.com/2Bp49SEa

If someone could read through it and check if I have missed anything, I would be grateful

>>47241746
Bingo! We have a winner!

>>47241753
>Arthur is a supernatural weapons master
>He only wants to help people but will cut the soul out of you if you hurt his people
>Is a country boy at heart, and fears losing this part of himself as he becomes more and more like the Mental Arthur sleeping in Avalon

Cape World Arthur is primo husbando material.

>>47241792
Vegas heroes. This project feels unfinished. We need to flesh out more of the casinos.

http://pastebin.com/ysD4JsRR

KANGAROO LAND

A soft spot in the Atlantean's barriers between the mental, spiritual, and physical Earths kept that way by the oldest god, the Rainbow Serpent. It has a link to the Dream-Time, a time when Atlanteans walked on physical Earth and blended the worlds, time, and space together as one. This link is called The Dreaming or Song Lines.

In other words, time and space are sometimes -off- in Australia. A lot of fortean phenomena happens in the Outback. Things wind up in strange places. Weird things fall from the sky. Lakes turn pink, that kind of stuff.

There's also a healthy population of Dreaming creatures, incredible blends of spirits, thought forms, and matter. Be on the look out for drop bears and Bun Yips!

No where is the Dreaming stronger than on the top of Uluru, where the Rainbow Serpent makes his nest. Uluru is a living being and exists everywhere at any time due to its connection to the Song Lines.

Rainbow Serpent and his team THE RAINBOW LEGION (don't laugh) can travel through all of space and time when on Uluru. They spend a lot of time fighting ECHIDNA and her brood, which is something of the Shuma Gorath of the setting. She infests all corners of time and space and the Rainbow Legion often has to play exterminator.


I have an idea for Sorcerer Supreme. Have it be a child. The child's heart gives him or her a rapport with the nature of the Song Lines allowing for incredibly feats of magic. When the child reaches maturity they transfer their power to the next child in line and become the teacher of that child.

Good idea or bad idea?

Also, any idea for a Super Villain that isn't a mystic monster? I sort of want to have a Boomerang/Captain Boomerang bad guy. For traditions sake.

>>47242084
We do need more casinos. We only really fleshed out two.

I also want to see if we can do anything cool with the Super MMA idea. Meowing Midori is the only character we're written up that has strong ties to it and she's in Japan most of the time.

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>>47241672
>"Sorcerer Supreme" is probably from Australia.
But Baron Bizarre is a Brit

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Now, I don't know a lot about aboriginal culture, but I do know about the existence of people like pic related, including one who was named 'Captain Thunderbolt'.

>>47242220
RAINBOW LEGION:

Rainbow Serpent

Gef the Mongoose (like Bob Cat, but a tutelary spirit instead of a trickster)

"Sorcerer Supreme", maybe something like "Dream Singer?" Have his/her magics be creation based. Singing is often an act of creation in myths. Jesus did it in Paradise Lost. Aslan did it in Narnia. Apollo once sang a city into existence.

The Barrier: Spirit of the Great Barrier Reef and more besides. The Barrier is the embodiment of the fauna of the 3 Earths growing and developing into the fabric of the Atlantean's barrier. Life finds a way to adapt and overcome even the machinations of the Atlanteans.

Basically life and nature is turning the wall of the Atlanteans into a reef.


The Great Barrier has the ability open holes in reality and to use the barrier of the Atlanteans seal enemies.

It manifests around the Great Barrier Reef, the Grand Canyon, That funky pink lake in Australia, and other places around the world.

It appears as a giant coral colored mountain with lots of holes that "Dreaming Fish" swim in and out of. It has a sweet, nurturing, motherly personality and is very protective of those that seek shelter inside it. It sees itself as an ambassador between the creatures the live within it and the inhabitants of the 3 Earths.

In time she/he/it may become the 4th Earth, and Earth will be unique for being a planet in the solar system with an oversoul divided into 4 parts and the Atlanteans will have really shot themselves in the foot.

>>47242274
He's the SS? Didn't know that. Just make "Dream Singer" his/her own thing than.

>>47242418
Ned Kelly?

>>47242084
Japan heroes. would like to see some of the non-tokyo heroes get more development, but Meowing Midori's story warms my heart.

http://pastebin.com/AUUwcx7u

>>47242530
Updated, missed a bunch of descriptions

http://pastebin.com/wz33giaC

>>47242418
Ned Kelley invented the first suit of power armor to use in his bank robbing spree.

He was finally captured and the armor confiscated.

It has since been stolen, and used numerous times over the years.

Occasionally even upgraded.

A Legacy of Kelleymen ever since, that have been Heroic, Villainous, Or Neutral, it all depends on who's got their hands on the suit.

What countries have not been done?

>>47242677
most of them. we have done germany, america, britain, and japan.

>>47242530
>Meowing Midori
Glad to see I'm not the only one that likes her!

>Warm my heart
Where she beats her challenger, trains and befriends her, then losers in an emotional rematch? Yeah. That has the potential for serious feels.

Maybe after giving up her seat on the Tokyo Guardians Meowing Midori joins one of the UN teams? It'll give her the chance to travel around and spar with all sorts of people.

Maybe she gets put on the "non-All star team" by the UN rep that desperately wants to see it work in the hopes that she'll take the no-hopers and joke heroes and train them up and whip the GLOBAL WATCH (working name) into an effective fighting force?

>>47242632
"Kellymen" sounds badass. Maybe that's what Aussies call armored characters in general due to the legacy and association? "Kellymen".

>>47242509
RAINBOW LEGION

RAINBOW SERPENT

GEF THE MONGOOSE

DREAM SINGER

THE BARRIER

Their theme is "creation". They see all the weirdness in the world and want to create things to get it all working together in harmony like The Barrier. Their arch-foe is Echidna and her brood which stand for "destruction". They also clash with the Atlanteans who HATE Australia for being the big gap in their wall and who represent stagnation, fear of change, and dwelling on the mistakes of the past rather than looking forward to tomorrow.

I want to add a Kellyman to the Legion and a Bushman warrior that uses mystically enhanced boomerangs (of course) along with other Aboriginal weapons.

Aussie baddie and mercenary TRICK SHOOTER stole some of his weapons and that's how he got his start. Think sort of the Super friends origin of Giganta.

>>47242710
>GLOBAL WATCH (working name
how about "united front"? sounds like a "we're all in this together guys" kind of name.
as for the all-star team maybe just referred to it as "the team". adds a air of mystery to it.

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>>47242736
Feels like an Aussie thing to say.
>"Oh look its one of them American Kellymen."

More Australian Super Lore.
In 1932 Australia faced its worst foes yet. According to an age old warning from an aboriginal sorcerer, an ancient society of bird-like beastmen raided the cities and people of australia. Seeking to reinstate their ancient kingdom and rule the world it was up to the heroes of australia to fight back. Soldiers fought and died against the menace of mind controlled Emus, Ostritches, and Cassowaries.

The Kellyman of 1932, fought bravely on the front lines along side other supers. In a stunning sacrifice they struck a fatal blow to one of the Birdmen Leaders.

>>47237622
>>47237635
Well, I meant more in the traditional sense of two super-teams/groups interacting when they don't normally.

>>47242632
the 1986 biopic "Kelleyman" provided the inspiration for Superstar.

>>47242871
I like this. United Front and the Team.

>>47242840
THE HUNTER

Defender of Australia sense before recorded time, a bushman warrior blessed by all the tribes with their collected knowledge of song lines to protect their island from primal threats. He is the primal, platonic archetype of hunter made flesh through a chosen Shaman. Like the American god Alien God Killer he fights against dark, primal monsters like Echidna and her brood.

The modern HUNTER works as a tour guide in the outback. He guides people through "dream monster" regions in the hopes of showing people that that humanity can coexist with these creatures harmoniously.

He struggles with maintaining this view in light of creatures such as Echidna. How can anything coexist with something like her that seeks only to eat and breed? He doesn't know the answer, not yet. So he has to be content with being, like his ancestors, a HUNTER of her and her kind.

Like his predecessors he maintains a good relationship with Rainbow Serpent, seeing him as a mentor figure.

He's the "audience focus" character of the group, the one closest to being a normal human who is tutored in the ways of strange creatures like Gef and The Great Barrier by Rainbow Serpent.

He is a perfect physical specimen augmented by magical artifacts he can pull out of his dillybags. He has boomerangs that move on their own, through dimensions, and even through time. His shield can withstand and deflect anything. His spear thrower can accurately hit targets over the horizon with the power of a missile. But his most powerful tool is his bullroarer with which he can cast spells by drawing on the song lines of Australia. He's rather incompetent right now but Rainbow Serpent is tutoring him.

Wait, what are we working on right now?

>>47243139
I'm getting a bit of a Buffy vibe from him for some reason, I like it.

>>47243189
Looks like Aussie land with some focus on the UN side of things with UNITED FRONT and THE TEAM.

>>47243189
why not flesh out vegas?

>>47243262
That's what I was thinking.

>>47243262
I really, really want to flesh Vegas out. I was the guy that did most of the worldbuilding for it. But Kangaroo Land has stolen my attention...I'll see what I can do.

Vegas relatively close to Mexico, and Mexico and Vegas are big on the Super MMA map. Could Vegas have a couple of Luchador themed supers running around competing? Maybe Mexico has a big family of El Santo types and some of them are in Vegas trying to own the circuits like the Gracies in real world MMA?

Good idea?

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>>47242942
The Australian Emu War, except with stakes. I can dig it. Though it might not hurt to incorperate elements of the Echidna mythos as described here >>47242840

>>47243262
well for the super MMA bits we could make some supers out of different fighting styles to fill out their roster, so tiger style kung fu would be a actual tiger man or something along those lines. maybe have him be something of a rival to meowing Midori?

>>47243383
Echidna Cassowaries are among the most feared of her brood, fast and utterly ruthless.

>>47243262
Originally established by a supervillain group with ties to the mob in the 40's, they soon realized they could make more money with less risk through gambling than robbing banks. Many of the top heads of the various gambling corporations are retired villains and mobsters. This is technically a superhero group in Vegas, they're hired by the company heads, and function more as "enforcers." While supernatural magic shows used to be big in Vegas, this changed in 2003, when the famous performing wizards Johann and Fred were nearly killed by a chimera they had previously summoned for their magic shows many times before. In addition, while the surface level buildings are the typical gambling fair you can expect anywhere, there are rumors that below the surface, there lies entertainment and games of a much... darker variety. However, the board of directors will happily remind you that these are just rumors, with absolutely no proof to back them up. They make sure of it.

Also for some more "human" villains for Australia bushrangers, colonials are good inspiration but Australia has some interesting serial killers. Snowtown with the bodies in barrels and of course Wolf creek spring into mind

>>47243644
A good "Arcade" style villain could be a serial killer with a ranch in the middle of the outback hunting the most dangerous game, capes

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>>47243394
>Tiger Man rival
He could be. Chinese kung fu vs Japanese karate/judo.

Maybe his sister was the one that took Midori's seat, a one of those anime Chinese girls but also a tiger girl?

TRICK SHOOTER

Professional mercenary and sharp shooter before he became a super foe, TRICK SHOOTER managed to get the drop on the latest HUNTER while he was deeply focused in his magic and knock him cold with an energy gun. Not one of the young super's proudest moments. Trick Shooter took the opportunity to steal one of his magical dillybags while his opponent was stunned.

Fortunately he did not take the bullroarer, not understanding its true value.

TRICK SHOOTER is a "diamond" to the core. It's all about the money. He's a member of the SWAGGERTS, a team of Australian thieves and mercenaries that include the modern KELLY GANG, descendants of Ned Kelly decked in powered armor with their leader using what he claims to be an upgraded version of the first suit, and professional assassin THE DINGO.

TRICK SHOOTER's preferred strategy is to let fly with a barrage of magical boomerangs to distract his opponent from all sides while he falls back and lines up a killing shot with his more familiar energy rifles. Sometimes he attaches explosives to his boomerangs that he shoots to explode on top his opponent.

>>47243689
We already have that with >>47224555.

But a more down to earth, easier to defeat arcade villain would be nice, just to have a good alternative available.

Do you have any more ideas on this character?

>>47243262
we need heroes for the major casinos. I'll list the ones I know off the too of my head below.

we also have super elvis and super elvis 2 from Kentucky Rains background.
flamingo
golden nugget
MGM Grand
New York, New York
Treasure Island
Paris
palazzo
Mirage
Planet Hallywood
Hard Rock Hotel

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>>47243689
i wouldn't call him arcade style. But I do like the idea of some hunstman type villain existing.

Hell maybe he should have absolutely no powers, other than determination and wits.

Setting traps, tracking people, surviving off the fat of the land.

Just so he can mount someone's superhero mask on his wall. Right next to his Dodo head and Dragon tail.

>>47243262
Is there a pastebin on what we have so far on Vegas?

>>47243689
Ohhhh I like this. Very creepy and very cool, especially with all the weirdness in the Outback.

Speaking of super serial killers, we haven't done much with that idea. I remember Hollywood is supposed to have THE SLAHSHER who plagues Hollywood because "the movies never get it right"whose existence is covered up by the system until Barnstormer and the Blockbusters bust him.

Here's a morbid idea. What if Australia is home to an association of super serial killers? A "hunters union" as they call themselves? The only criteria for joining is that you have to hunt "the most dangerous game" which means capes.

The ranch guy could be the leader. Sometimes he invites his friends over to hunt captured capes Running Man style.


>Vegas idea

How about we do something with that Dice Head guy Edspear drew? Maybe his casino is themed on "super obstacle courses" capes test themselves with? Something like Ultimate Ninja for capes. Or hell, even more trippy. A Game Show for capes. His casino could also host Super MMA fights.

Maybe he's an ex super villain that sublimates his desire to defeat super heroes by having them run his mazes?

>>47243822
http://pastebin.com/ysD4JsRR

What's up with everyone's fascination with Super MMA fights?

>>47243871
Because people want to see superpowered fight clubs for some reason, and Vegas is as good a place to do it as any.

>>47243820
>>47243739
Think Kraven meets the Texas chainsaw family. They believe killing and consuming supers will give them a fraction of their power. Whether it actually does can be ambiguous, they sure are hard to kill though.

I want to read fiction of THE DINGO being paid to kidnap a baby

>>47243824
Oooooo I like this I like this a lot. It's dark for cape world but a little dark never hurt

>>47243820
The Dingo? Works with both the Swaggerts and the "hunters association" but prefers working on his own when he can help it, liking the challenge and finding a lot of the hunters association people filthy degenerate psychos.

>Planet Hollywood

All the waitresses dress like Barnstormer in her Country Gal outfit and she HATES IT.

One of its attractions are giant monster battles created by a cape that specializes in controlling clay. Back in the day he was the super Ray Harryhausen, but his star fell with the rise of CGI and now he works here pitting his creations against one another.

He's clay-kinetic.

Another attraction is "dining with the stars" created by a retired special effects super who can bend light. He causes black and white "ghosts" of Hollywood celebrities to walk around and talk with diners. So for a fee you can have dinner with Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall.

>>47243824
>super serial killers
didn't we have that in Europe?
not saying they couldn't be part of it, just wanted to avoid having two of the same group.
although some sort of cold war between the two groups could be interesting.

>>47243791
>golden nugget
Either a King Midas themed guy. Except any part of himself he touches turns to gold.
Think of a gaudier version of Colossus from Xmen.
With the additional powers of gold. Flexibility and incredible weight for example.

Alternatively and Old Prospector guy, with super digging powers.

>New York, New York
A Super Sinatra.
Or better yet... A Mimic who can take the form of any famous musician.

>MGM Grand
Lovely Lord Leo
Big muscle-y masked wrestler type, except it isn't a mask he has an actual lionhead. Champion in the MGM Grand Arena's Superfights. Willing to take all comers that want to win the tournament and claim the Fight King Belt.

Alternatively, he could be retired to a more "officiator"/Announcer type guy to give sporty play by play in super fights.

>>47243965
In a sense. They could have a friendly rivalry, trying to one up eachother. Whereas Europe was full of gentlemen maybe Australia has more actual psychos?

>>47243971
what if super sinatra is just a rouge duplicate of Body Double that didn't care for film

>>47243896
...But why? We're talking about characters that can level cities when they fight each other, but everyone wants them to fight for sport? Just seems like a bad idea. It'd be like governments routinely launching nukes at each other, just to see if the resident Superman knockoff could catch them all.

>>47243896
>>47243871
We really haven't done much with Super MMA to be honest. We got three people associated with it worldwide. Two of which don't even have names. I don't see that as everyone being fascinated.

I think the appeal comes from that in comics whenever you get a Super Fight club its always something evil and twisted like Roulette's stuff. You actually don't have anything like a Super MMA in Marvel or DC. And it fits for Vegas because Vegas is big on ways capes can make a buck besides being a super hero.

>>47243931
Comic worlds dabble in all the shades. You have Punisher and Ghost Rider in the shadows and Kamala Khan in the sunlight.

>>47243904
>Eat capes, get powers

Oh man, Cape South Africa is going to be filled with people like that. Look up "Muti Murders"

Hell, it probably actually work in this setting if you do it right.

I like the "Kraven meets Texas Chainsaw Massacre" angle. They attract a lot of super-psychos to the club, which is why Dingo doesn't like to work with them. He likes hunting and killing capes, but he doesn't LOVE it like these freaks do.

>>47244043
well the issue is that in Cape World there isn't enough work to keep supers employed 24/7. That is why most of the teams are trading off of the political/entertainment value of superpowered beings.

>>47243965
>>47243993
This idea reminds me of some of the groups in Hunter: The Vigil. And if you wanted to get really gross, you could take a page from District 9 and say that people hunt down supers just to eat their flesh, thinking they might gain powers as well.

>>47243904
>Dingo kidnapped my baby.

He probably hates the jokes.

Jokes aside it's really appropriate for him to be called the Dingo. They're wild dogs that share the outback with all manner of stuff more powerful and dangerous than they are, especially in Cape Straya with its Dreaming Creatures.

They're not as powerful as the other animals in the outback but they can outlast and outhunt all the others. That's how the Dingo sees himself. The non-powered guy that takes down godlings.

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>>47244021
I was kind of picturing a lounge singer version of the chameleon. He messes up his face and rearranges his vocalchords in order to impersonate people better.

I'm a little inspired by the Sovereign from venture bros.

>>47244043
A lot of big fighting events go down in vegas but don't qoute me on that. Real Boxing and Mixed Martial Arts stuff.

as for why they'd fight eachother. One who says its the "important" or "powerful" heroes fighting eachother. Could just be the washouts and bottom wrung types that was mentioned in the pastebin.

Or if it is the higher up types.... I'm guessing its more of a pagentry and storytelling thing.

Its not real like wrestling. Its fake, like boxing.

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>>47244060
>You actually don't have anything like a Super MMA in Marvel or DC.
I'm pretty sure that Marvel actually had a version of this for wrestling, called the unlimited class or something, and The Thing was a member. Pic mostly unrelated.

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>>47243824
Some kind of game show would be neat.

Between D.M. this guy >>47243689 and now dice man it looks like we could have a lot of similar villains. We could definitely make it work though if they have significant differences; Most Dangerous Game having no real superpowers just setting traps and using his hunting skills and experience, D.M. being an impossibly overpowered god who can make even the strongest heroes play his game.

For the Dice guy I'm thinking a game show or casino or something else that is actually legal and voluntary. A way for heroes to test their skill and earn fabulous prizes. Of course things could get more villainy with behind-the-scenes stuff like blackmailing uninterested superheros into playing or dangerous obstacles or even some connections to criminal organizations.

>State of the art psychic projections giving viewers at home the impression of that extremely lifelike animatronic basilisk is ripping the hero apart; no superheros were harmed in the making of this game we promise
>Agreeing to blackmail the superhero a Vegas crime boss wants dead into competing in the Ultra Family Friendly Snake Edition game for the price of more exotic monsters and weapons to use for the next game

This sound good? Any other ideas?

>>47243842
Thanks

>>47243871
We've got a few of those, yeah, but mostly dispersed throughout the US and even around the world. And a lot of Super MMA organizations makes sense in this setting. People love to watch superheros fight. It's not big surprise that every region with a major superhero presence appeals to that.

>>47244043
well I think the general idea with the super MMA stuff is that it's more for the iron fists and batmen of the cape world. martial artists who just happen to have superpowers basically.

and it's also for the capes who just want to make a quick buck and get pumping every once in a while with out the danger or stakes of being a superhero/villain

>>47244110
>Its not real like wrestling. Its fake, like boxing.
Superhero kayfabe? Now that, I could buy. Actually, I'm really liking that idea.

>>47244137
>martial artists who just happen to have superpowers
>batmen
?????

>>47244188
couldn't remember any other super martial artists, I need to get to bed.

>>47244110
i like the idea of a sinatra hero, and shape shifting seems a fine power for them. But what would be their name?

Face Sin-off-tra? The sultan of substitution? Ol' (Are they) blue eyes? the changing voice?

>>47244207
Ol' Blue Eyes sounds like a good name.

In fact it could also be his weakness. Whatever he does he can't shapeshift their blue eyes. They remain the same color.

>>47244222
It could explain why he chooses to remain in the form of Sinatra, at least professionally.

Personally I'd like to give him a few other powers though, given that the reason the casino's maintain a hero is to protect their earnings and to stage elaborate superfights. Can we go full martian manhunter on this guy? give him shapeshifting, flight, intangibility, and also the ability to subtly influence people given the charm of his hypnotic voice?

>>47243965
>Didn't we have that in Europe?

Naw, the Irregulars are just a merc team with a horror/government corruption them. Jack is probably a serial killer (and probably the actual Jack the Ripper) but hes the only one on the team like that and Warlock keeps him on a tight leash.

>>47244043
>Characters that can level cities when they fight each other but everyone wants to see them fight

Think about what you just wrote. Think about it hard.

I doubt the city-killers actually get involved in the fights unless there ar a shit ton of magic/super science bullshit to make sure they don't kill anybody. But it's Vegas. I'm sure they have something like a model micro-city set up just to have supers wreck it.

>Just to see if the resident Superman knockoff could catch them all

Most fighters are probably in the low levelbrick category. For those actually that powerful its probably more of a show than anything. Come watch these two guys break a lot of buildings behind an energy dome sort of thing.

>>47244119
Huh. I actually forgot about them. They actually had an all-woman's wrestling league as well. Songbird was apart of it.

I don't think Marvel's done anything with it in years though.

>>47244128
A super game show could be extremely funny. Make it like family feud with two super teams.

Never be afraid to go fully comedy in a cape setting.

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>>47244263
Yeah, I was just thinking about the wrong power level.

>A super game show could be extremely funny.
Unless it's a standard quiz show, in which case the winner would be whoever goes first, if we operate under the assumption that the only contestants will be the uber-geniuses with IQs in excess of 500.

>>47244254
>the reason the casino's maintain a hero is to protect their earnings and to stage elaborate superfights
Not specifically. If anything, the supers help sell the experience of the casino/hotel and make them one of the centerpieces of the whole shebang. I mean, Caesar's Palace gives you the opportunity to potentially meet (who pose as) the two Roman goddesses of wisdom and love. If anything, they're practically the casino's mascots.

>>47244341
so you are opposed to upping his power level? he is your cape man, it is your call. I just think he cold be pushed a little bit.

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>>47244341
In Minerva's case, it's actually not that far off since she's an Amazon and all. In fact, for completion's sake, let's go back a few threads and revisit what Amazons are, exactly.

>The Amazons are like the old Legends rules about Mandalorians. They accept anyone as long as you follow their culture.

>Unfortunately, their culture is pretty backwards. They're old-school Greeks and never really moved past it, so assured are they that their way is blessed by the gods. They keep slaves, they don't really keep track of modern technology, and they use traditional methods for everything. However, they do apparently have some powers on their side. Whether it's the gods or their collective belief reshaping reality, their warriors are supernaturally fast and strong, their armor is nearly impenetrable, and their spears and arrows can punch through a warship's armor.

>However, this only applies for as long as the Amazon retains possession of the arms and armors. In the hands of any outsider, their weapons are cheap iron age pieces of shit and seemingly normal wooden spears and arrows. As soon as an Amazon picks it up again, however, each weapon or shield is as powerful as it was before she lost possession.

>They're largely self sufficient and the only real outside income they have are from historians and filthy rich people who come to beg for their curative potions.

>That said, it's not unheard for Amazons to travel abroad once in a while. They're not truly isolationist as some folks perceive, and they generally try to keep tabs on events in the greater world.

That last bit is what happened to Minerva. She travelled abroad, ended up in Vegas, got confused about Caesar's Palace, and ended up getting roped in a job as the house super alongside Vegas native Venus.

>>47244425
The Amazon island is ostensibly part of the Mystic Archipelago, I reckon.

>>47244146
>super kayfabe
This was talked about in one of the other threads. Hollywood had faked super fights that they covered up (until Barnstormer and friends broke silence). But Vegas has been open about "super shows".

You have "super shows" and "Super MMA". Sometimes there's a little crossover.

We can even get surreal with the super shows with casinos themed as different "worlds" crossing over and fighting their capes in super shows.

All the casinos involved in the "super shows circuit" come together once a year for a big wrestlemania style event called THE CRISIS where characters "die", get replaced, and plot twists happen.

One time shit gets real when cosmic entities that interpret the universe through memes and have a hard time understanding this thing called "fiction" show up thinking its an actual multiverse crisis and not some sort of show.

>>47244188
He has special "beats up guys he really shouldn't be able to" powers.

>>47244340
>Quiz show for super geniuses
>It gets canceled after a few episodes because no one can relate to the questions about meme-particles and hyper-dimensional physics
>The super geniuses involved pay to keep it on the air
>Because someone has to WIN GOD DAMN IT!

>>47244449
>All the casinos involved in the "super shows circuit" come together once a year for a big wrestlemania style event called THE CRISIS where characters "die", get replaced, and plot twists happen.
I'm not on-board with the super Wrestlemania bit, but I'm okay with casino cross-promotion by having their supers interact with each other, which happens anyway because hey, they're supers.

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>>47244449
>>The super geniuses involved pay to keep it on the air
>>Because someone has to WIN GOD DAMN IT!
Reminded me of this.

Huh. For some reason, I just imagined one of the super geniuses going Bill Nye to try and teach kid super geniuses.

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>>47241732
See I was gonna name her Rosette (in reference to Russet Potatoes). And have her just seem to be Dr. Tuberous's legitimate daughter.
which is weird cause he has no wife.
The secret is that she's secretly also a robot like her two "brothers" and is the most human of the three, down to artificial organs and everything.

But damn Chips is just a cuter name.

Also perhaps the good doctor's name should be Julian Tuberous
As julienne is a way of cutting potatoes.

>>47241692
I'm okay with it too honestly.

Titan is a wonderous robot with mr. potato head powers. In that he can replace his parts from stuff he stores inside of him... THough he often has to fish out the "angry eyes."

Gemstone uses the powers of gems to get wildly varying effects.

And Chips/Rosette/whatever be the one that's yet to figure out her potential.

>>47244498
>Minerva asks Ol' Blue Eyes who Frank Sinatra was
>OBE gets offended
>Venus apologizes, explains that Minerva is an Amazon

>>47244449
>Super Genius Game Show
>Dice Head has to beg his beg his old nemesis The Librarian to find SOMETHING they don't know so the show will end
>Has to call in Sphinxes from the mystical archipelago to help
>The resulting question causes the geniuses to start writing doctoral theses on their I-pads.
>Laws of science are rewritten
>Dice Head ends up with a noble prize for science
>The show is still on the air with Super Geniuses competing against Sphinxes from the mystic archipelago
>Its still a ratings nightmare

It's hard out there for a Dice Head.

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>>47240650
Isle of Man!

My grandparents live there.

They got wild Motor Cycle races there, plus tons of neat ruins too.

In fact the mythology of "Mannanan" as a sorcerer with three legs who protected the island and its fairies by shrouding in its mists is great fuel for a hero idea.

Same for the TT Races and whatnot.

>>47244542
>Minerva
I find it odd that someone named after a goddess of knowledge wouldn't know something as simple as who Frank Sinatra is.

>>47244561
I imagine at some point, part of the show would revolve around correctly rebutting philosophical arguments. Or just pointing out the logical inconsistencies in regular arguments. Meanwhile, everyone else is pissed these guys haven't solved global warming already.

>>47244514
A Team of Super Teachers could be fun.

Until they bring Brachmann from Maine in to do the Literature Segment.

>>47227809
>opic Starter: Historical Supers. How would you incorporate superpowers and superhumans in historical settings, such as the Old West, the Middle Ages, or even as far back as the Stone Age?

This has always been pretty easy for me as most cultures believe in magic or their heroes doing things way beyond human norm all by themselves suggesting powers or Batman-level training and skills.
A good example; there's an issue of Marvel's What If? where Conan the Barbarian is transported into the future and then fights Captain America to a DRAW, despite not having any super-steroids at all.

Conan is just that badass.

>>47244592
>I find it odd that someone named after a goddess of knowledge wouldn't know something as simple as who Frank Sinatra is.
Isn't he the blind man who played trumpet and landed on the moon via a bicycle?

>>47244128
>The Arcade Style Villains

The Roulette are criminals not supported by the Las Vegas powers that be (ostensibly). They might be magical guys, they might not be. They work like Die Hard 3. "Play the game and the hostages go free". They work a lot with Waxworks who kidnaps and replaces VIPs with his wax copies. Traditionally people bet a lot online on the outcomes of their games, and some suspect the Vegas powers that be are behind The Roulette.

DICE HEAD is an Ex-super villain that owns a casino where he can challenge super heroes legally with games shows, obstacle courses, and MMA bouts. His personal casino HIGH ROLLERS is themed on providing the very best in "super games". May or may not be as "legit" as he first appears. Old habits die hard.

GROGNARD THE DM (might need a name change) is a guy with cosmic level magical power given to him by his dice. He wants to "better" people by forcing them on adventures in little dungeon worlds. His games are heavy into role playing and narrative. Has a sense of fair play, and normal people that do well in his games are sometimes rewarded with being able to keep the treasure and goodies they find, becoming capes when they get back to the "real world".

THE HUNTERS ASSOCIATION: Australia's dirty little secret. Super psychos and people that hunt capes. Some even EAT capes they kill. They like to kidnap capes and set them loose in the outback to hunt Running Man style.

>>47244528
Rosette could be her name and Chips could be her nickname?

>>47244732
That all looks good to me. Diverse and international-and interdimensional-gives us a lot to work with for about any story.

About Grognard, though, I agree that he should have a different name. Everything about him is campy and overpowered, and is enjoyable because of that. He is fun for the sake of fun, at least that's the impression I get. So I'd suggest the campiest or punniest name possible. Maybe some reference to something. Unless "grognard" is a reference to something in which case I apologize for my disgustingly low power level.

>>47244732
>The Roulette
Wow, you guys weren't even trying to be clever with this one, you just ripped this straight out of DC.

>becoming capes when they get back to the "real world".
This has "Plot Device" written all over it. Expect Grognard to become your version of the Power Broker.

>>47244830
Well the dc roulette is just one character.

>>47244830
Their original names were Mr. Red and Mr. Black. Collectively, they're known as the Roulette.

>>47244783
I always felt he should just be called the Dungeon Master or the Dungeoneer

>>47244872
>>47244783
I am disappointed in all of you. Grognard is the perfect name.

>>47244912
It frankly doesn't make any sense.

I mean its either a vaguely fantasy style name

Or a reference to Napoleonic soldiers.

Also rolls off the tongue about as easily as a 3 lane pile-up.

>>47244956
Grognard is a /tg/ term. It's someone who sticks to an older set of rules purely out of choice.

>>47244872
"Dungeoneer" should be the name of someone who explores a dungeon. So a super version of a PC in a fantasy campaign? Not entirely sure how to build a character around this. Every time he dies he comes back (rerolls), but with random traits as a random species? Oh, so, like Resurrection Man. I can dig it.

>>47244956
A grognard is someone who kept playing first edition DND after the later editions came out. A DND purist.

>>47244830
>Ripped straight from DC

One is a woman in a Chinese dress that organizes underground death matches between capes. The other is a duo that make bets with each other over what happens in their Die Hard 3 plots named after the colors of Roulette wheel.

They really aren't that similar.

>>47244976
You make me want to make a character simply based on that brief characterization and "The Purist."

>>47244986
Oh, I thought they were running the super casinos or whatever. Too tired, should sleep.

So what do you guys think about Albany being the "starter town" of Cape World? NYC is based on Astro City and Neopolis then Albany is like Central City and Opal City. It's got a few capes, not a lot, and its the "generic" city.

It's big super baddie is Science Tyrant who works with his minions Serpent Sensei and his clone daughter Viper Strike. So far its only hero is a bumbler protected by a thought-form genie nurtured by his courage and bravery.

Anyone awake enough to try rolling for more Albany characters? Maybe this time we're get someone for team Science Tryant?

>>47244963
>>47244976

okay my bad. I guess I could see the link to the Napoleon definition now. But still it isn't exactly an elegant name to say aloud, and names are pretty much what Superhero stuff live and die by.

Which sounds better?
Captain Marvel or Captain Mar-Vell?

>>47245052
There is a hero somebody already brought up in the context of rat pack named Albany Man that thinks he is too cool for the statesmen but actually has just never gotten a lot of attention

>>47245062
We should keep grognard's name. It is somebody's character and they are proud of it.

>>47245069
>Albany Man.

I'm definitely going to have to flesh this guy out. He sounds interesting.

>>47245083
We can have both. Characters could call him Grognard...because he's a Grognard. But he could also be knows as THE DUNGEON MASTER, THE STORYTELLER, all sorts of names really.

>>47244732
Here's an idea on DM:

The beginning of DM's arcs are sometimes unclear in whether or not they are a DM arc. There is plenty of material to work with in Cape World to explain weird phenomena other than "bored kid with cosmic powers". The hero may be led to believe they are up against one of their regular villains. DM could even roleplay AS one of their regular villains, doing a convincing enough job to trick the hero but leaving some clues that readers could pick up on signalling that it's some kind of illusion or trick.

And when the hero does realize who they are really dealing with, make it like a big reveal, like they defeat a bad guy and are allowed to choose some characteristic to "level up", or they realize that the foreign ambassador taken hostage who they are trying to save is a princess. Followed by DM welcoming them to his latest campaign.

Start subtle, make it look like any other story but maybe with a few oddities or clues, make the reveal that it was actually Grognard a surprise, and then from that point on things can go from "usual superhero gig with DM working behind the scenes" to the "full-blown reality-warping DND game". You could have the "usual superhero story with slight oddities" be considered by Grognard as just a practice session to test out his system and the heroes character sheet. And then have him go on to say that his setting needs more filled with dragons and traps and caves and that the hero "filled out their character sheet wrong" and fixes it for them, nerfing their superpowers back to Level 1.

And now that I know what "Grognard" means, thanks >>47244963 and >>47244976, I'm on board with keeping that name.

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>>47245083
Yeah I get that. Honestly I was gonna suggest going the Cosmic Marvel approach (The Collector being really "Taneleer Tivan the Collector, or "The Pursuer being "Koroth The Persuer") with it and make it an aspect of his villain name.

Grognard the Dungeon Master

That way there is an option to either call him or have him call himself Grognard, or The Dungeon Master.

Plus a naming theme that calls back to Cosmic characters sort of plays of the cosmic nature of his Polyhedrons of Power.

>>47244528
>The Tuberous Family game

>Sidescrolling action game. The Mole Empire is invading the surface using Idaho's natural power gem resources as weapons!

>Titan starts with all his powers as tools and weapons he can take out of his chest. He absorbs gems from enemies to grow stronger and repair himself. He plays like a juggernaut.

>Gemstone slots in gems obtained from enemies to create a variety of effects based on what slot he puts them in. Can combine effects like in Gunstar Heroes. A run and gunner.

>Chips collects gems and "brings out their full potential" in single use "blasts". Think weapon crashes from Castlevania. She's powerful in short spurts but is very weak when low on gems.

Tell me this isn't a better idea than Mighty No 9.

>>47245154
>>47245120
>>47245083
>>47244912
I didn't call him Dungeon Master because Grognard is even more of an in-joke and that was the point of the character. That being said, it doesn't really matter...

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>>47245245
That's fair.

Again a lot of the confusion over the name came from not getting the in joke.

I kind of liked it, though i thought of it as "Generic Fantasy Name Came Up with In the Last Second because players went off the rails and had to ask the Orc Merchant their name." kind of joke.

Have a quick doodle loaded with references for your trouble.

>>47245245
>>47245154

Just Grognard The Master shortens down to "G.M."

>>47245320
Oh I like this

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Last member I want to add to the RAINBOW LEGION, a Kellyman that goes by the name of DREAM DIVER.

Think pic related by covered in Aborigine Dreaming art. He's a walking map of the Dreaming and uses his suit to explore the insides of his team mate Great Barrier and the rest of the oversoul.

He provides a dose of science and common sense to the mystically minded team. He's usually the one that has to translate their mission logs into something the lay people can understand.

Imagine someone that has to explain to politicians and journalist what exactly Dr Strange did last Saturday to cause the sky to turn red. That's Dream Diver. In his civilian life he's educational scientist Mark Rays, and runs a television program called "Diving into Tomorrow" where he explains meta-science concepts like the 3 Earths, Atlanteans, the Dream-time, and the Dreaming.

In a fight his common tactic is to warp in and out of whatever Earth the fight is taking place on to ambush his opponent from their blind side with a blast of pure Dream-Time that takes the form of crazy psychedelic Aborigine art.


That's another super-team down. Another shrimp on the barby you could say.

>>47245320
I like it to!

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>>47245320
>>47245401
Any suggestions anons?
Should I turn on a trip for doing art again? It slipped my mind.

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>>47245389
A little more fleshing out for Gef the Mongoose.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gef

The Dalby Spook himself. What is he? A faerie from the Spiritual Earth? A ghost? A thought-form form the mental Earth? A tulpa created by an Indian Swami in 152?

A super powered mongoose?

Gef has claimed by many things at many times. One time he stated "I am a freak. I have hands and I have feet, and if you saw me you'd faint, you'd be petrified, mummified, turned into stone or a pillar of salt"

Some believe given Gef's considerable power that he assumes the form of a mongoose to appear friendly and harmless and to hint at his true nature: a killer of snakes and vermin and a protector of man like Kipling's Riki Tiki Tavi.

Whatever he is Gef is a hero with a heart of gold. When not chatting with his friends in the Rainbow Legion he likes to hang out in the Isle of Mann. People leave out treats for Gef, and he take them when no one is looking. He's partial to chocolate and bananas. Sometimes he picks a house to occupy for awhile, always improving the lives of those whose house he's squatting in. Gef likes to take things slow and easy. He's a creature of comfort, and likes to spend his time sleeping in the sun.

He has a cheeky side to himself however. He likes to tease the new HUNTER and play pranks, even on the super-venerable Rainbow Serpent. I see him acting a little like Terriermon from Digimon Tamers.

His magical powers are vast, but his favorite trick is to call upon and control the mighty Dreaming Creatures of Australia, burying his opponents in Drop Bears or swarming them with Bun Yips.

>>47245579
That's amazing.

>>47245579
>spoiler
I'm not one mind about it or the other.

>suggestions

Hmmmm....maybe >>47245389
because it sounds like he could look cool. Meowing Midori vs Bob Cat from that Ms Majestic tournament?

Rainbow Serpent introducing the new Hunter to Gef?

Do >>47245203
with the Tuberous family as 8-bit sprites?

>>47245579
Doc Chase is now best boy AND girl

>>47245579
I love this so much!

Blue Cobalt is a muscle wizard!

>>47245579
Suggestion, Doctor Chase wanting to do research on Ms.Cryptic with Trinity and Ms.Cryptic horrified at the implifications

>>47245579
>Pic
That's good stuff. Really glad to have you here adding images to all the text.

>Suggestions
Anything with Bob Cat, please. She's being mentioned fairly often, but we don't have any pic or even an agreed-upon detailed appearance for her yet.

>>47245624
>Meowing Midori
Is there a reference for her powerset/appearence anywhere? I know we got pastebins for the statesmen and Generals but there were a few other heroes that didn't get all written down to my knowledge.

>>47245696
we have a japan pastebin but we never hammered down her appearance beyond "Catgirl"

I would vote for more humanesque, with some cat ears and features. With her martial arts background she might be wearing a Gi

http://pastebin.com/wz33giaC

>>47245696
There was never a concrete description. One guy posted a pic of a martial arts catgirl but that was only one interpretation. So there's never been a consensus.

Powerset wise she's like Tigra, enhanced physical stats and feline grace, but also a master of martial arts, particularly karate and judo. She's from a family of catpeople martial artists big on the Super MMA circuit.

>>47245730
I second a gi but vote for her to be more cat because I'm a degenerate bastard.

>>47245592
And DREAM SINGER

The DREAM SINGER is a role filled on the RAINBOW LEGION by a child until that particular child becomes too old, then they become the mentor for the newest dream singer into whom they pass on their power.

There is a specific thought-form in Mental Earth, wild and chaotic and above all powerful. It is a the point at which the Atlantean barrier is weakest and the Dreaming is strongest on Mental Earth. It's counterpart on Physical Earth is Uluru and its counterpart on Spiritual Earth is The Rainbow Serpent himself. It is a node of Dreaming. It is a chaotic, destructive thought-storm that constantly destroys and feeds upon itself without end.

The DREAM SULTAN has often tried to destroy or capture this thought-form without success. It is one of his "white whales" along with his son Wilbur's monstrous brother and Haunter's Mad Mary.

The thought-storm would have remained nothing more than an obstacle, something for native thought-forms and dream travelers to avoid. But the Rainbow Legion are creators. They believe in finding a use and purpose for all things, and if they can't find one they create one. And that is what they did for the thought-storm...

>>47245815
Using his magic and inner connection to the thought-storm the Rainbow Serpent can, with a ritual he's designed over centuries, bind the thought-storm to a person just like any thought-form can bind naturally to a sensitive.

This sensitive must be a child.

This is so for several reasons. The first is that a child has less experience and presumptions. This allows the thought-storm to flow through them freely and readily instead of pooling inside expectations like cysts full of power. The second is because a child's mind is developing and learning at a rate that slows considerably at adolescence (this can be seen in real world IQ studies. IQ does not stabilize until one is a teenager). The child's mind is thus a good match for the ever-changing thought-storm. The child's mind is not predictable. If it were the thought-storm would struggle against it.

The third reason is because a child's mind is a wellspring of imagination and creation. Children have an instinct to create and create and create that dulls in adulthood. This is the most important reason. The thought-storm MUST have an outlet to flow constructively through and the creative child provides this.

The Dream-Singer is a magical creator. They are not meant to fight against anything, even the Echidna. They are meant to stay in Uluru under the watch of their tutor and The Rainbow Serpent and create. But they often have to fight against Echidna and her brood. Her brood infect all of time and space. Often only a creation of the Dream Singer can reach where they hide.

But normally the Dream Singer sits in his or her "garden" in the heart of Uluru and create. He or she makes devices, monsters, even in some rare occasions people. Sometime he or she fashion weapons to fight Echidna and her brood. A dream singer from long ago created the weapons that HUNTER uses. Usually Rainbow Serpent spends his time finding places in all the Earths where the creations can live peacefully.

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>>47245759
>vote for her to be more cat because I'm a degenerate bastard.

It's lucky we've got two catgirls to experiment with.

Went more "Cat-like" with Bobcat since... as compared to "generic Housecat" there are some actually interesting physical features to bobcats. Such as weird sideburns, spots, and stumpy Not-tails.
Plus Bobcat has the whole Rule 63 Tom Sawyer/Huck Finn thing going on.

Midori gets the classic "Human with cat ears" look. Plus the tail. Might work on her outfit more.

>>47246136
classy. Love the bob cat! different than I imagined, but I dig it!

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>>47246019
Many believe that a Dream Singer created the Great Barrier. This is not true, but several Dream Singers have added creatures to their teammate and friend over the years.

The Dream Singer is understandably a controversial topic. Many see it as child abuse, the controversial subject of child sidekicks grown to a ridiculous degree. They put something called a thought-storm inside the mind of a child, really?

The Atlanteans also dislike the idea of a Dream Singer. They see their old foe the Rainbow Serpent seeding the oversoul with his/her creations. Each creation is like a pinprick in their barrier.

The see the old serpent as mad with his dream singers and his great barrier. The walls between the earths impede the growth of Echidna and her brood. And here he is wanting to weaken those walls?

They remind the Rainbow Serpent that back in the Dream-Time he was known by other names. Nidhogg was one, chewer of the roots of the world tree. Another was Typhon, mate of Echidna . Are his latest actions just his old nature of destroyer and husband resurfacing?

The Rainbow Serpent replies that the walls have done nothing to stop Echidna. They simply slow her down. They fight her with sterility and space and fail. He will fight her with life and closeness and he vows to succeed. It is true that the more connected the Earths are the more Echidna can infect, but it also means they can destroy more of her at a time.

And it also means increasing the odds of someone within the incresaingly interconnected Earth creating a true solution for Echidna. Because the truth is every time the Atlanteans of The Rainbow Serpent beat her and her brood back they just come back stronger and more numerous. She is breeding in the spots of the Oversoul they cannot catch.

>>47228385
>I remember the guy that was writing up the Cape World Knights had Lancelot reincarnate as a perfect girl
You remember wrong. The only time I even metioned him was when writing up Bedivere and even then as a joke.
And I'm not exactly hogging the idea of the Knights. You can (and should!) write up more, especially considering I don't have much of an opportunity to sit down and write up anything lately.

Also, holy shit these threads move fast

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>>47246136
Those are both really nice. Thanks again for drawing.

Bob Cat's short suspenders though, holy shit. I honestly did just want a clear visual image to help us work with a character but now this is really speaking to me.

>>47246136
I love them, they look great side by side. The differing level of catness underscores the differences in personality and fighting style between the two really well.

Now have them wrassle! I want to see a winner!

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>Mirror-Man

>>47246224
Sorry about misremembering , and thanks for letting me write up more of the knights. I'm doing Straya stuff right now, but the Knights are high on my list of stuff to write up given that they tie to the cosmology in a big way.

I think I might make Arthur destined to fight against Echidna. The ultimate knight against the ultimate dragon. Maybe she's the reason he's been reincarnated this time?

>>47246270
Disco Dan the Disco Man! The smooth brother from another mother with enough power and moves to bring down the house!

>>47246225
>those short shorts
>Remember she teamed up with The Reverend one time

That was probably an awesome team up.

>>47246252
>That spoiler

I-I-I always want to see this...

>>47246185
>Echidna is an extinction level event that keeps coming back stronger
>Like a cancer on the oversoul

>There are serial killers in Kangaroo land
>So many that they team up to hunt and kill capes

Man this thread was rather dark. Who knew Straya would turn out to be Vertigo comics?

>>47246318
it is called the dark continent.

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>>47246270
>Gas-Eyes-Man