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>The BBEG has very strong romantic feelings for one of the PCs
Is it possible to do this in a way that's both plausible and enjoyable for the entire group?

Pic unrelated or is it?
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That's cute. I need more images in this vein.
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>"Reality"
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>>47180551
>tfw a shy qt3.14 will never fuck up asking you on a date
Goddamn it anon, if I wanted to feel like a piece of shit I would've stayed on /r9k/.

Also not really unless your group is an evil group where the BB"E"G is trying to redeem one of them, or if your group is ok with yandere. I think it would be easier for one of the BBEG's right hand wo/men to be interested in a PC and help them along while still staying true to their leader.
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>>47180551
>If "entire group" is a single player
Yes

>If "entire group" is more than one player
No. The rest of the players probably don't wana sit there awkwardly while one player magical-realms his way through a waifu fantasy and/or possibly ends up betraying the party for it.
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>>47180683
No, that really is how it tends to go if you have some kind of anxiety disorder.
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>>47180656
> https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=mikkii
enjoy
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>>47180551
Sure, why the fuck not?

>>47180688
>Implying any sort of romance always has to end in magical realming and waifuing
I pity the man who doesn't see the potential in the BBEG crushing hard on a righteous hero, especially in a light hearted campaign.
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>>47180808
>I pity the man who doesn't see the potential in the BBEG crushing hard on a righteous hero, especially in a light hearted campaign.
>light hearted campaign
Oh jeez.

>BBEG pulls some heavy shit, like kidnapping a princess, because she knows the righteous hero will save her
>Summons monsters to fill her castle
>These monsters are all neatly organized in groups that slowly increase in power, ensuring every room is challenging but never fatal
>The entrance has a notice that reads "Don't worry about the monsters, I can always summon more"
>After every five rooms there's a hall with comfortable beds, filling meals, ample healing potions and buckets with water and towels
>Every remotely poisenous monster carries a necklace with the antidote in it
>The BBEG's pre-battle speech can be best summarized as "Wow, you actually got this far! And so fast too! Not that I ever doubted your skill! You're so cool!"
>A battle ensues in which the BBEG clearly has the upper hand
>She suddenly retreats, claiming she has run out of power and giggling that she'll get the righteous hero next time
>The party proceeds to the "treasure room" which is filled with only the princess and a nude portrait of the BBEG
>The princess has a curse placed on her that causes her to incessantly shout "I'M A HUGE WHORE PLEASE RAPE MY FACE" whenever she's within ten meters of the righteous hero
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>>47180656
>That's cute.
Literally amae (sic).

>>47180700
The key to overcoming your social ineptitude is to stop giving a shit and git gud at mimicry.
t. a person with crippling social disability
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>>47180963
So much cringe... sooo much...

I'd totally play it as a campaign though.
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>>47181031
What about the follow-up campaign?
>The righteous hero learns about the spell rather quickly and maintains a respectful eleven meter distance from the princess
>Despite this the king wants to match his daughter with the hero
>He invites her to a formal ball
>The BBEG attends as well, disguised as a minor noblewoman
>She's only there to see what happens when the king proposes the hero and the princess dance
>Before the eyes of all nobles of the realm
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>>47180990
Fake it til you make it, basically. Pretending to have social skills is good practice for actually having them.
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>>47181065

I can only hope they would have told the king.

Furthermore the righteous hero, being a wise man, knows of the proliclivities of his enemy, and knows she would come to see her handywork. The ball is a trap.

But since this is a lighthearted campaign and if you were actually playing this that means you and your group are going for full retard humor, I approve of that scenario. The princess ends up screaming she is a whore while the players try not to giggle since they are all clearly tweens. What happens next?
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>>47181074
Pretty much, yes.
I realized that when I started faking that I know something about the subject I'm talking about, when I literally know nothing about it.
The same works with social skills.

There was an okay sci-fi novel called Blindsight by Peter Watts, and one thing thatwas relevant to the current discussion is that the protagonist was something called "synthesist", basically a high-functioning autist who doesn't understand emotions and has to figure out the correct algorythms of operating in the society.
It's an interesting concept, and I wonder how many actual real-life "synthesists" there are.
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>>47181103
Why is Homura in Pathfinder?
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>>47181115
You should instead be asking why Homura is the iconic of the Digimon/Pokemon Archetype.
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>>47181115
We just don't know.
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>>47181115
>>47181123
Is that fucking for real? Like... I was kinda on the "hate Pathfinder" bandwagon before... but damn man... fucking damn...
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>>47181065
ay i know that doujin!
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>>47181156
A new book is coming out and one of the classes is literally Kame Rider transforming kind of hero.
Homura Pokemon Master is an alternative subtype of that class.

Paizo is obviously trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator and capture as much audience as it can before its time has passed.
As a business move, it is understandable - you use a more-or-less famous franchise name, and go for a cash-grab.
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>>47181156
Yes.

Ask /pfg/ about it.

From what they've said, the archetype isn't that good.
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>>47181183
>A new book is coming out
Isn't Pathfinder 3.5e+? Why are they still releasing new books when 5e already exists?
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>>47181183
Ultimate Intrigue is already out.
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>>47181220
Well, excuuuuuuuuuuuse me, princess, for not keeping up with whatever Paizo or Hasbro put out on the market.
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>>47181209
Because Pathfinder is owned by Paizo and D&D is owned by Wotc.
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>>47180551
>The BBEG has very strong romantic feelings for one of the PCs
>Is it possible to do this in a way that's both plausible and enjoyable for the entire group?
Perhaps if the BBEG is a different PC
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>>47181120
>Digimon/Pokemon Archetype
That would be the Monster Trainer class.
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>>47180551
I've pulled this off, but it wasn't in an 'anime uguu' type way. If you're trying to do it with that kind of tone then you're going to have a much harder time of it.

The BBEG also wasn't isolated in an evil black tower, she mingled with the PCs fairly often, just generally not in positive ways.
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>>47181768
Care to elaborate?
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>>47181103
> There was an okay sci-fi novel called Blindsight by Peter Watts
Just want to say 'thank you'. I started to read it now, after your message. And this is pretty good reading so far.
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>>47180551
Once played in a campaign where a Succubus started crushing on the party's insane gnome wizard.
She got interested in him after he completely wrecked her with an incredibly assortment of blaster spells.
And so she started crushing on him. In her own way.
This involved sending love letters, 'gifts', murder attempts, and arranging for an unholy semi-undead dragon to attack the town we were in.
The rest of the party could tell when the gnome had received a letter by the screaming that could be heard across town.
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>>47181209
Because OGL. Also because they've made a whole lot of money off bloat wankers and 5e just doesn't have the same potential with the removal of prestige classes and lessened feats.
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>>47180551
Yes.
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>>47182288
Don't Bowser's motivations change with every single appearance? I don't think his motivations were ever made clear and kept consistent. Wasn't his motivation in SM3 just that he wanted a mother for the Koopa Kids?
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>>47182303
>implying Bowser isn't just hired or voted for by the Mushroom Kingdom denizens to be chosen as the official Bad Guy
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>>47182303
What's fairly consistent are the kidnappings.
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>>47181103
>>47182133
"Blindsight" is a bit better than just okay. Its incredibly imaginitive and the science is really fun to read. The characterization is really flat, but you can head cannon that away because the main character is literally autistic.
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>>47182325
Zangief is a bad guy? :(
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>>47182403
Nah, it's okay.
The problem of Blindsight is that it tries to cram way too much into itself.
As a hard sci-fi book, it's good, but if you judge it simply as a book, it's lacking.

>>47182417
No, he is a Bad Guy, but he isn't a bad guy.
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>>47180551
I had an enemy character that was a master of disguise with some special abilities to the extent that the player characters couldn't recognize her when disguised, despite the fact that I would generally describe her the same way when disguised and they as players were aware.
She was an Assassin that both tried to murder some of the PCs and ressurected one when he killed himself, then fucked him,
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>>47182325
The guy who made that comic was a retard edgelord that didn't seem to understand the vein of the movie, since Vidya characters were just actors. Seph would probably be a lisping prancer that likes to make knitted sweaters for his coworkers or something.
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I'd make it so that the BBEG started off helping the party, became attached to them, then had to betray them for reasons.

Murtahg and Nasuada from the eldest series comes to mind here
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>>47180551
>tfw that pic is pretty much me.
Still haven't worked up the courage to talk to him.

Anyways, on topic, I suppose you could. Though, I think it would have to be a less serious game if you wanted it in the tone of the OP pic or you'd have to have a great DM to pull it off.
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>>47180990
Yo anon is there more to that strip? Reverse imaging just confuses more than it clarifies. That shit is hella cute and I'd appreciate any source good sir
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>>47182549
The artist is Yanagida Fumita.
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>>47182417
To the writer of Wreck-it Ralph he is

He was his impassable hurdle when he was 12 and playing Street Fighter 2 in the arcade
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>>47182537
So long as you don't look like a tumblrina and say something like, I dunno, wanting to fuck him like your dad, then you should be fine.
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>>47180551
>It's modern day Ragnarok
>Group is a bunch of international students and scientists
>Caught in Germany when the sun and moon are eaten and everything goes to shit
>Dodge trolls and giants, trying to make it somewhere safe
>Hear about a town outside of Dresden that's fortified and defended
>Avoid gangs of looters and monsters
>Finally reach the place and learn its primary defenders are historians, archaeologists, historical reenactors, martial artists and ex-military
>It's led by a neckbeard who learned early on that ancient weapons could bring down creatures of myth
>Party member got the random trait of beauty
>Neckbeard wants her for his harem and all fighting men as conscripts for the town guard
>We're all weak as shit and can't resist
>While we start lending out mental abilities to the town, his new waifu is constantly fighting advances
>There's a huge wave of refugees
>Waifu is set upon in the night by another harem girl, trying to scure her place as top of the pile for scarce resources
>Kills the girl in a fit of rage
>Neckbeard's Norse fantasies come to life right in front of him
>Becomes obsessed with marrying her
>Meanwhile we've been gathering tools and weapons for an escape
>Built pipeguns, spears, shields and swords
>Infiltrate and rescue our friend
>Spotted as we try to leave
>Have to fight our way out
>Need to make it to Denmark as his men scour the land looking for her
>Bounties are promised
>Neckbeard warlord gathers power and his sphere of influence grows hot on our heels
>He raids a private collection of weapons and armour
>Expands faster and traps us inside a town
>Searching for us so he can profess his love
>He'll keep searching for her and proving his power over men, monsters and gods until she loves him back
>Realise that the more typical PC feats she accomplishes to escape him, the more it makes him love her
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>>47182564
Ahh yeah, many thanks my man.
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>>47182633
>Hear about a town outside of Dresden that's fortified and defended
Is it Freital? huehuehue
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>>47182570
Zangief WAS a member of Shadaloo's big four.

He just quit when he realized they were legit evil and not just rude. Zangief is willing to play the heel, but he's not EVIL.
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>>47181183
I'm okay with a transformation hero, but less magical girl more GLORIOUS RIGHTEOUS MIGHT
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>>47182841
I don't understand at all. What's the joke that's currently flying 30K ft over my head?
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>>47182873
I'm pretty sure you're thinking of Sagat.
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>>47182873

Depends on the media, but the game portrayal of Zangief has always been simply a gigantic wrestler from Russia with no stake in the Shadaloo or Dark Hadou plots.
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>>47180551

There are a few ways to do it.

Do you want the PC to be receptive? Like (assuming your players are guys) do you want them to respond positively?

The simplest one is a villainess who has a crush on the hero, and keeps pulling her blows at the last minute. You know how it is: the evil swordswoman who dolls up all gothy-like, who can't bring herself to strike the protagonist down and can actually be convinced to switch sides. Or she's full of beautiful angst about it.

To make it as disturbing as possible? Make it a guy. In fact, make it a yaoi-game-style guy, the kind of dude who 'erotically licks up' the PC's blood when he's wounded, and wants him naked and chained to the bed. Yes, yes, I know a lot of people on /tg/ are faggots, but this can be played for a serious creep factor.

Generally, however, this won't work well for a BBEG. One of the BBEG's minions, yes. The BBEG himself/herself, no, because that would mean there's no plot.

The way the situation resolves is:
1.) The villainess eventually flips sides, because the power of the D and those strange doki-doki feelings convert her.
2.) She dies tragically but beautifully, torn between her love for the PC and her responsibilities.
3.) She goes batshit fucking insane, and becomes more evil and cruel than ever. This can be a "I know I should hate this guy, but I want him so much" or a crazy ex-girlfriend "You have another love interest? I'm going to mutilate her and give her to the dogs! You betrayed me!"

It all depends on how you want to see it to go.

For women, women are really into the Twilight/50 Shades of Grey/Diabolik Lovers thing, so this can backfire.
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>>47182956
Ah, you're right, wrt the game stories, anyway. The anime has him hired on by Shadaloo, as do some of the other spin-offs.
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>>47180551
>The BBEG has very strong romantic feelings for the whole group
>Harem end.
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>>47180551
what the fuck does /tg/ mean by BBEG? No, really.

do they mean the arch nemesis of the whole campaign, or simply a very imposing villain? like the term comes from BtVS in which there were more than one BBEGs, but this also took place over 10 seasons.

so which is it?

Anyway, maybe if the campaign is less killy than usual?
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>>47183010
End?

You mean the start of our new Maid: RPG campaign, right?
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>>47180990
Why does that girl have fangs?

I mean, it's cute and all, but why?
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>>47183026
>what the fuck does /tg/ mean by BBEG? No, really.
/tg/ isn't one person, but generally speaking it means the "end boss" of the campaign. If your group goes through multiple campaigns, there can be multiple BBEGs.

>>47183010
>Implying she'd let her husbando talk to sluts
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>>47183089
It's an anime/manga thing.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CuteLittleFangs
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>>47182904
Freital in Germany is a town which got german medias attention after several attacks against foreigners and asylum seekers. It is to be told there are living a lot of nationalist people which may or may not be true since you can't look in everbodies head.
There is a lot more stuff going on but my english is to bad to formulate everything important. just google freital attacks.
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>>47183035
Considering we're having a Magical Burst right now, I'm pretty sure my players would totally be down for a maid campaign where the mistress is a galactic villain and the maids are a bunch of magical girls serving her.
And so am I, to be honest.
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>>47180551
Anon, there are only two possible choices here. Tragedy or Comedy.

Best is if the BBEG truly loves the Hero but feels honour bound to carry out her plan for the sake of all those who died in the process, even if it means killing her love or being killed by him. At the climax, leave it unresolved as to if she pulled her punches and died for her ideals while letting him live, or if truly killed her with everything he had and if he hadn'tthen maybe he could have simply subdued her and tried to save her.

Or make her a cat girl who, while more girl physically is more cat emotionally and has orange and blue morality that keeps her doing bad shit but never fighting to the bitter end.

Then have her playfulness go too far when she finally does capture the hero and have her break him. While he is imprisoned, she murders her companions because she doesn't understand friendship only desire and thinks he'll get over it. Have her murder his child then transfer their soul into the rape baby she forced him to give her in a drugged up haze the after telling him what she did for her plan to be his child's real mommy. Have her insist that he'll be much happier now that she can make him listen. She will pout sometimes but always tell him that she knows they'll work it out because the power of love can do anything. Have her remind him of the good times they had together, the passion that drew two opposites together. The sex, the battles, the blood spilled as they were perfectly complementing each other in battle. Drive home the knife that in a sense he always knew she was bad but since he didn't stop her or kill her then he must love her because otherwise he would never have tolerated the things she did.

I lied, Anon. All comedy is tragic when you stop to think it through.
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>>47183010
>implying my character would let himself be captured and not try to get away as best as he can

Bitch please. I may be weak as fuck but there is no way you can keep me locked up in any way shape or form.
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>>47183193
>Nuh-uh! I have a force field that blocks your laser gun!
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>>47183219
No, simply innate teleportation which is also persistent and precise. Cost me a fuckton of PPs to make, since I can also use it on the mind of people instead of normal space.

So yeah, not even nullify can keep me from teleporting.
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>>47183089
Like most anime drawing conventions, I think it's a highly stylized way of drawing something that actually exists.
The 'fangs' I think might actually be that you can see molars at a certain angle. Or it could actually be her canines; mine are certainly a little longer than my other teeth.
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>>47183254
We get it, you created a broken Mary Sue and need to brag about it on the internet.
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>>47183302
How is Schroedinger broken? He has the least kills in the damn show.

'sides, it's >>47183010 who started by stating that there would be a harem ending without taking into consideration that someone might actually have some sort of immunity to what his/her villain can do.
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>>47183302

People like that always depress me, for some reason. I mean, what's the point of having a conversation if you're just going to go "My character has arbitary powers that get me out of it?"
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>>47183325
>some sort of immunity to what his/her villain can do
Being in love with the PCs?
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>>47183329
What would you tell a player that goes
>I want to grapple the gelatinous cube
When the gelatinous cube clearly has immunity to grapple attacks by smaller opponents?
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>>47183338
No, the immunity to being imprisoned/grappled.

I've seen a character who was mostly immune to conventional means of harm, so one of the guys grappled the character while another one blasted him with energy until that obnoxious character was knocked unconscious.

Clearly, you can't understand the concept of trying a different approach to a situation when something does not work.
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>>47183341

> "You sink into the cube and begin to melt. Take acid damage."
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>>47183302
>>47183219
He's pretending to be playing Schroedinger. He made nothing, stop helping the tit.
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>>47183375
Exactly!
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>>47183373
Where does the original post say 'imprisoned' or 'grappled?'

>>47183341
'You know that won't work, are you sure?'
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>>47183373

But it defeats the point, because you're not engaging with the situation. It's like "Here is a moral dilemma. What do you do?"

"I run away with superspeed."
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>>47183325
>Hisoka
>harem end
All that's missing is a cake.

If you get the reference, you're terrible person.
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>>47183396
>Harem end
is not a moral dilemma.
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>>47183410
Considering I recognize that style of drawing, I think I am glad that I don't know what you're talking about.
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>>47183435
It's okay, even that Brazilian faggot has his sweet moments. Not in this particualr case, though, probably.
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>>47180551
It can work.

Just be sure that you keep rape out of the equation.
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>>47183325

>How is Schroedinger broken? He has the least kills in the damn show.

He came the closest to killing Alucard though.
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>>47183469
Good characters are based entirely on their kill count. I'm a good writer, right?
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>>47183510
Where did you get that idea?
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>>47181170
I don't, but I wouldn't mind knowing.
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>>47183435
Okay, I'll tell you anyway. Author runs a Patreon, the reward for highest contribution is "doujin of your choice and a cake". So far one person paid it and that's the doujin they asked for. Sadly we don't know any further details about how the cake was.
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Can think of one time but it was pretty bad. The local BBEG was very much in love with one of the PCs and for the good of the land she accepted to marry him. The blood mage though came up with a plan where she changed her appearance to that of the PC and basically took her place in the marriage. She eventually had a baby with the guy, and used the baby as sort of a voodoo doll against him since they shared blood, so she ended up with the BBEG under her control till she got all she wanted and tired of him.
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>>47180551
Reddem the villan or make everyone evil.
The latter one is better, former is boring.

>implying woman has to do anything at all
they live in easy mode
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>>47180551
One of my players seduced and slept with the BBEG before realizing she was the villain. Now she's head over heals for him, and her plan is to bring them in on the plan so she can keep banging her boy toy.
Horrifyingly, the PCs were gung-ho for this. So now they're helping this crazy media personality take over a country by murdering all her political rivals.
This is the kind of shit that happens with a CN party.
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>>47183889
Well isn't this that kind of stuff that makes pnp fun?
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>>47183904
It has been a wild ride for sure, but I had to throw out all my plans for this arc. Ain't nothing like a good ol' fashioned derailing thanks to the BBEG wanting the PC's dick.
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>>47180551
>Is it possible to do this in a way that's both plausible and enjoyable for the entire group?

Possible, sure.

I have a antagonist wizard who's obsessed with marrying the party's barbarian. It's mostly played for laughs and lets me get all Ming the Merciless with giving the players opportunities for dramatic rescues. And more than once they've beaten his minions because the villain insists on trying to take her alive.

Of course, I had to make sure the player isn't triggered by abduction references, and that I don't accidentally Enter a Magical Realm. So, like most things it depends on the emotional intelligence of you and your players.
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>>47183977
For a second, I thought you meant a female wizard wanted to marry the party's male barbarian, which was a much funnier mental image
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>>47183089
I think it started as an anime/manga thing, but in Japan alot of girls have odd teeth that result in their canines protruding farther then normal. Now its become its own style, and people actually pay to have them set that way because its so kawaii desu unguuuu~
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>>47184195
I think its there to show they're 'wild' and 'sporty' or whatever.
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>>47182417

Street Fighter 1, he technically was.

Changed with SF2 and the introduction of M. Bison.
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>>47182303
Bowser is currently denying that the Koopa Kids are his children. It's some real Maury Povich-level shit.
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>>47184473
Zangief wasn't in Street Fighter 1
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>>47181123
>yfw Pathfinder has stooped this low
I'm glad i ended the last game I was GM'ing and switched to Only War. Pathfinder needs to wrap itself up or end itself.
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>>47182417
Only in the shitty 90s American cartoon.
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>>47183855
>not bringing down the justice hard on the motherfucker
What kind of hero are you?

whining is hard work man.
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>>47184690
The latest book has Comforting the Lonely, which gives your vigilante character bonuses for having sex, and some Courtesan PrC whose capstone ability is 1d4 rounds of ecstasy as a touch attack.
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>>47181190
>the archetype isn't that good.
Yep. Long story short, the class features you get from not going either summoner aren't worth losing your eidolon, and if you're allowed to use normal summoner then you lose the fantastic spell list, since you use unchained summoner spell list which is far worse.
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>>47184736
Well it's about time
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>>47183410
i want to milk killua
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>>47180551
It's shit, you're shit, your thread and post are both shit. Next question.
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>>47181156
Out of curiosity, what is it about it that sets you off? For me it's how it's just almost plagiarism.
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>>47183138
MFW my parents made me wear braces and file my eye teeth to fix this.

> I have no face.
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>>47181976
Not that anon, but my guess/the way I'd do it is that they play the "reoccurring main villain" trope, sort of like Team Rocket from the anime where they show up and either cause trouble, or offer to team up with the party for a common goal and through those few moments of teaming up they develop feelings for the PC(s).
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>>47185451
Some idols intentionally fuck up their teeth to get IRL versions of that. It looks awful.

Some things are really only appealing when it's 2D
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Eye teeth?
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>The BBEG has turned your PC's waifu into a mind controlled servant
>Rather than doing the stupid thing of having her try to kill you so the power of love frees her before she can use the knife she does the smart thing
>and uses her love for you against you to have her try to convince you to join her and be with her for all eternity
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bump
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>>47185516

>actually have pretty long incisors, basically natural anime girl fangs
>be a burly huge fucker that looks like an ogre
>nobody will ever appreciate how kawaii uguu your little fangs are
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>>47186119

One day you'll find a girl into Werewolves anon.

One day.
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>>47180963
why would you ruin something adorable with a retarded fetish?
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Pretty sure that the BBEG in my Vampire the Dark Ages game is in love with one of the PCs, but the rest of the group doesn't seem to have connected the dots even though it seems pretty clear to me.

One of the players, Marcus Setorius, is Roman Lasombra embraced at the age of nine by his father's murderer Perpenna. After nearly twenty years of slavery and humiliation, he tried and failed to kill his hated sire, winding up in a 1200+ year torpor. Finding himself thrust into the medieval world, Marcus resolved to look for his sire and finish the job. This eventually brought him to Constantinople and the rest of the PCs, as it turns out Perpenna is plotting to destroy the city. We have since met a number of people who know Perpenna, as well as a few of his agents, and from them we've learned some pretty disturbing shit. The man is a depraved and cruel monster, given to vanity and jealousy in equal parts, and hated and feared even by his own servants. Most disturbingly, he keeps around a number of child ghouls fleshcrafted into Marcus' likeness, who are regular victims of his abuse.

It's obvious that after all this time Perpenna remains thoroughly obsessed with Marcus, and hates him still. However, i believe there's a deeper truth behind it all. Think about it, if i told you a man kept a harem whose likeness was a woman that betrayed him a long time ago, would your first thought be that he hates her? Or that he loves her? People don't build monuments to the things they hate, they build them to the things they love. It's been over twelve fucking centuries and Pepenna still wants Marcus, it shows in the pets he keeps, in his sparing no expense in the effort to capture or lure Marcus to him. That level of obsession, of single-minded desire, cannot be anything but love. An utterly debased and depraved form of love perhaps, but love nonetheless.

This conclusion inescapable once you think about it, and it amazes me that none of the other players yet seem to realize it.
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>>47186166
It's not a fetish, it's just a way to make sure that bitch-ass princess doesn't steal her man.
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>>47185451
>> I have no face.
As A result of that?
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>>47185847

Huh. You know this anon despite pandering to his fetish raises an interesting point.

If "love" always has the Princess snap out of her mind control whenever the hero's about to be hurt why not take advantage of that love to instead have her try and convince the hero to accept her as a puppet? Both are evil but one seems to exploit that whole "force myself free of the villains control with my willpower" thing.
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>>47186166 What >>47186332 said. The concept would probably work just as well with any number of phrases or actions as long as it was kept obvious that she was being magically compelled, in keeping with the comic theme.
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>>47180551
Literally anything can be done well, you just have to have something the other players can do relating to or running parallel to this stuff. As someone who runs alot of shit where people are always splitting up and running about it's very possible but your players have to be in a mindset inwhich everyone is in the game to entertain one another and be entertained. In other words, if you're playing DnD or some variant you probably shouldn't even try to do this. But experiment, try new things and if they don't work ignore them.
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>>47186119
I-I do, anon-kun
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>>47186591

>Senpai noticed me!
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>>47186478
>>47186478
It works better if the princess and hero actually don't have feelings for each other, just a friendship that the king is trying to spin into an arranged political marriage to reward the hero
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>>47184736

>it has gone full circle and DnD is cribbing shit from MGQ Paradox

>it is only a matter of time before battlefucker becomes an actual class
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>>47180551
>BBEG leaves loot for the player that makes no sense
>A dulled weapon
>A freshly skinned bear rug with the head enchanted to recite terrible poetry
>A wheel of rare cheese that is deadly when more than one slice is eaten every day.
>A suit of armor with enchantments no one can make out.
>Turns out those items are her culture's way of courting someone they like, and the armor is supposed to be a wedding suit.
>Player doesn't realize that till he confronts BBEG and she says "Save that energy for the honeymoon dear!~"
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>>47187604
>A dulled weapon
>A wheel of rare cheese that is deadly when more than one slice is eaten every day.
The other ones make sense when explained, but what's up with these two?
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>>47188088
Maybe they're metaphors for marriage.
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>>47188088
>A dulled weapon

I can understand this one, more or less. A dulled weapon can't be used to kill (well, unless you try very hard), so giving a dulled weapon to someone might be understood as a sort of promise to not harm your spouse, I guess.

The chesse I don't understand. Some kind of metaphor against excesses? Maybe some things are really good, but don't overdo it?
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>>47188171
>A dulled weapon can't be used to kill (well, unless you try very hard), so giving a dulled weapon to someone might be understood as a sort of promise to not harm your spouse, I guess.
That's so sweet. It makes me feel like shit that no grill will ever give me a dulled weapon.
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>>47184027
> Female Wizard BBEG: Prepare for the Beasting!
> Currently raging Barbarian: RUuugh!!!
> SEVERAL HOURS LATER
> Female Wizard BBEG: Oh gods, I can't feel my fucking legs.
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>>47181115
I'm pretty sure Homura only does things because Madoka is involved or because it's tied to Homura hating herself.
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>>47188638
The latter would totally explain it.
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>>47183855
>image involving the Overlord
>not a Minion in sight
>willingly allowing a field that probably contains fluffy bunnies and shit to exist
>also not using one of the actual love interests from the game
The fuck is going on here?
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>>47185847
The only thing worse than seeing someone shove thair fetish into everyone's face is seeing them shove YOUR fetish in everyone's face.

Fuck you and the ass you rode in on.
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>>47180963

D-Doujin please?
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>>47189542

1) why're you so mad bro?

2) Were you somehow expecting this thread to not devolve into fetish shit at least partially?
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>>47180551
I'm not great at storytelling, so I'll keep it simple.
We had a fairly tragic reveal that the legitimately heroic fighter's love interest was the bbeg.
"I love you but I can't let you do this."
"I love you but I can't let you stop me."
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>BBEG captures the hero only to dress him up on the frilliest and cutest dress worrying about the smallest detail including high heels, corset, stocking, bra, make-up, hairstyle and cute hat because she likes seeing their embarrassment when it turns out they like being pampered like princesses despite all their supposed reluctance.
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>>47189876
Are we just blatantly applying our fetishes to OP's scenario now?
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>>47189911
>Our
Well, that was mine but if you like it too then I don't mind sharing.
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>>47189636
>Implying Shimoneta is a doujin
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>>47189927
Note the plural noun. Which implies we each have our own. And I'll have you know my kinks involve getting my ass reamed in all sorts of ways and doing unspeakable things to titties. None of that silly crossdressing stuff. There's no subtle way to include those things though.
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>>47189664
An anon shitposts with your fetish and makes it look bad on the internet.
Clearly the only course of action is to get mad, bro.
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>>47190051
>Note the plural noun. Which implies we each have our own.
My mistake friend.

>Crossdressing is silly
How rude! I'll have you know that setting up a fashionable get-up where all the pieces compliment each other is quite the endeavor!
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>>47190016

Nah, I meant I want a doujin with that scenario. Unless that's what Shinmoneta is and I'm just ignorant?
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>>47190051
I was for it until I re-read it and saw 'him'. I was all excited for the evil wizard forcing a tomboyish paladin girl to dress up like a frilly princess.
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>>47180551
>PC has strong romantic feelings for the BBEG
>constantly trying to romance her to goodness
>GM seems uncomfortable with it, but the BBEG slowly warms up to him
>that player's face when just as his character is proposing marriage a priest toddles out with an old letter explaining they were siblings separated at birth
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>>47190016
That's actually really vulgar, can't she just use saliva and blood like normal girl?
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>>47190087
>>that player's face when just as his character is proposing marriage a priest toddles out with an old letter explaining they were siblings separated at birth
This is almost as bad as lol we are not blood siblings.
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>>47190087
And?
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>>47190087
Oh no.
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>>47190084
Yes please.
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>>47180687
>Waiting for a girl to ask you out.
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>>47190264
>no pictures
is that complain or request?
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>>47190072

>and makes it look bad on the internet.

buddy. Hate to break this to you.

Any time someone posts their fetish online it's going to look "bad".

Unless your fetish is so completely subtle and non-existent you need to expressly say it's a fetish before someone agrees. But even then it can still look bad if you start pushing it.
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>>47190243
And the player was not happy. He saw it as the GM trying to stop a romance that he'd been working up towards for a while because of plot reasons.

>>47190264
Oh yes. And they don't even have dead parents or anything - their dad was just legitimately a dick who didn't tell either wife about the other woman. One kid just took their dad's dickishness a little better.
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>>47190299
Between the two, it'd be closer to a complaint. If I were allowed more options, I'd say it's a command that the author should keep in mind during future endeavors.

>>47190334
Yeah, that's pretty rude.
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Not exactly the OP scenario and not my story, but a friend of mine told me about a campaign he was involved in once.

It was one of those politically charged campaigns and the final BBEG had a daughter that got involved with one of the PCs. The BBEG used her to direct the PCs in the direction he needed them to be, prompting them to take out his competition by letting the daughter be kidnapped or arranging a political marriage that the PCs wouldn't approve of. They cut their way to her without fail every time and I hear had quite a few jokes about kidnapped princesses and stuff. (She wasn't actually a princess but she served the role of one)

I don't actually know how things ended there, when he told me it seemed they were gearing up to fight the BBEG and hadn't decided how to resolve the love interest thing yet.
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>>47190084
>I was all excited when I thought a boy-looking person was being forced to dress girly
>And then I got turned off when I read it was exactly the same shit
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>>47183562
she's a futa
her son sucks her dick
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>>47190673
New Uno Makoto doujins fucking never.
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>>47190578
Tomboy does not mean boyish looking.
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>>47181183
>A new book is coming out and one of the classes is literally Kame Rider transforming kind of hero.
not going to lie that sounds legit cool. how is pathfinder as a game?
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>>47188720
If it makes you feel any better, you can pretend there's hobbits dying on the breaking wheel just offscreen.
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>>47191078
It really doesn't.

Not much anyways.
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>>47190999
D&D 3.5 but worse in every way. It's possibly tolerable if your DM understands things like tiers and knows to go easy on the monk.
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>>47190999

Bad
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>>47182901
There's a Zealot archetype
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The Dark Lord in our game is in love with our ditzy hot blooded fighter girl
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>>47180990
>TFW you meet a girl like this who wants to be your wingsis and does an excellent job at getting you gals to bang
>TFW you were actually after her the whole time because you liked her sense of humor and wit, and she was motherfucking cute.
>TFW you actually ask her out and she says no because you're like her brother or some shit.
>TFW you throw a little hint of trying again and she stops speaking to you altogether.
>TFW she wouldn't even say goodbye to you or throw a hint of caring about you after many years of friendship and sexual tension
>TFW many years later she confesses to a friend that she was yandere levels of crazy about you but couldn't gather the courage to say yes.
>She now married to a douche with two kids almost half as douchy as he is.

I still have dreams about a campaign where a paladin spirited away to the future like samurai jack wants to rescue the empress from the douchy BBEG husband, but can't because he still respects the law and the empress accepted her fate long ago.

BBEG and hero make passes at each other but no real victory is achieved.
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>>47191440
So, she self-cucked herself?

For what purpose? What's the point of sabotaging your own happiness like this?
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>>47181065
I can viscerally feel the cuck
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>>47190999
While it's not perfect, it's not as bad as >>47191125 and >>47191235 are saying and on the off chance you aren't just baiting(which you probably are). The biggest problem is that it has too many rules which on one hand makes judgments easier for the DM, but mostly just limits the player's creativity. But it's okay if the DM doesn't really care about rules as written and there's no rules lawyer in the group.
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>>47186119
Stuff like this or me being a useless piece of trash who'd be better off as an onahole is why we need science to advance far enough to become qt lolis.
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>>47191679
make us become*
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>>47185451
Mine snapped off level with the rest of my teeth in my sleep while I was in college. They had been like 3 mm proud of the incisors and pre molars.
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>>47191679

>Big guys want to almost always be small and cute
>Small and weak guys wanna become big and swole

Truly, the flesh is suffering.
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>>47188393
And that friends is ACTUALLY how my parties barbarian was conceived (I'm not joking... This is very similar to what was in his character backstory)
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>>47180551

No OP
Everything that's difficult, has potential to backfire, or requires a creative solution is fucking impossible.
This thread is autistic.

Cue the 250 replies from a bunch of bored grognards inserting their dumb opinions into vague nonsense topics.

Even without quest threads polluting this place, this board is still fucking shit.

>>>/trash/
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>>47191890
Why are you pretending that there aren't quests in the catalog?
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>>47184690
Not their fault weebs are willing to pay for this kind of shit. They are just playing to the market.

Look at this thread for example
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>>47191658
>The biggest problem is that it has too many rules
It's not as bad as other games in that respect. The biggest issue is still balance between various player classes. For example, a Summoner is a caster who also comes with a free monk. Literally better than monks in every way. (Or he can just be a monk who also casts spells if he hates abusing the action economy.)
>>47191679
to be fair, everyone weeb enough to not just say fleshlight is a useless piece of trash.
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>>47183855
Is there any context/source on this image? I can't understand what's happening and feel like I'm missing something above & beyond the BBEG of the picture meeting his love interest.
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>>47180551
BBEG is the BBEG because they have feelings for the PC and are an idiot.
>I want to fuck that paladin but they are too obsessed with their fucking oath
>Maybe if I destroy their order they will notice me

Also this though >>47180688
Seems kind of awkward for the third wheels.
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>>47180551
Depends on what kind of BBEG this is.

If they're the crazy burn-n-loot kind of villain, then it would be like a cat leaving dead birds on your pillow. Except the dead birds would be the heads of the strongest monsters they could find.

If they're the "ends justify the means" kind of villain, then it's going to end in tragedy and lots of anger (on the villain's part at least).

Ultimately, to make it enjoyable, you'd have to compensate for the attention placed onto the BBEG's object of affection by giving the other players something equally strange.

>>47191890
>Your idea is shit
>Quests are what's shitting this place up, I want them out
>The quests are gone, but this place is still shit
>Everything is shit

What the hell anon, if you can't even enjoy something, why are you still sitting around and polluting it with your wrong opinions?

Really, you should stop looking in the mirror before you start calling whatever you see autistic.
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>The BBEG was just that super smart little witch girl
>She just wanted to impress the hero and get him to notice her
>Her punishment for being bad is bullying
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>>47191830
Indeed, flesh is pain.
>can't be a qt loli who takes care of a decent man, attempting improve his life by displaying affection towards him, making meals for him to eat, doing lewdstuffs, or cuddling with him
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>>47193260
But would you really want to do that? I mean, would you really want to abandon your own desires and values to help out a person who may not even consider what you're really doing for them? And you can't even be sure they'll be carving your name into a god's forehead in capital letters after it's all said and done.
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>>47193650
>abandon your own desires and values
Those are his desires.
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>>47193650
What >>47193682 said. I've given up hope for myself, so I may as well try to at least make someone else happy.
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>>47183118
In my defense, I'd be okay with Yandere GF killing other people. I'm just less okay with being killed myself.

Is that not an acceptable compromise?
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>>47191440

I had to grab my heart just reading this
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>>47183118
>yandere
>killing the target of their affection
Unless said target does something dumb that makes the yandere think that they'd never have them, they ain't getting touched.

Much.
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>>47191533
>For what purpose? What's the point of sabotaging your own happiness like this?
Welcome to the human condition, anon. You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.
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>>47183254
What if you're in the mind and they're instantly killed?
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>>47191533

I have seen this 5 times. Women that want to friendzone a nigger will do it even if hurts them. Argueably with more force than if they didn't care. Females of a certain generation don't want to feel vulnerable or take risks of any kind, ever. It has no purpose, it's just some kind of bullshit conditioning to not deliver and try to get the moral and emotional high ground in their relationships, and it's strong enough to leave them traumatized too, not just the nigga that they diss.

Most likely this anon tried to give her time so that she would get used to his moves but it was just more time for her to panic and get inside her shell as she knew he had feels for her. Each time she threw him another friend she was postponing that decision and overthinking the shit out of it. Anon botched the perception roll by not realizing this. That it could happen to a yandere is news to me though, didn't thought it possible; but it also means that he dodged that bullet. Yandere is by definition insane.

This is why you need to move fast instead of develop a strong link, something in which every Chad has a master's degree. Probably got her drunk in a party and took advantage of her while she was genuinely vulnerable and without her friend to support her.

BTW sorry if you're there >>47191440 , for speaking this way about your problem. Most likely I'm overeaching and didn't mean to rub salt, but this is why you need to become your own nigger instead of rellying on a grill to find your happiness. Sloots can't give you no feels, but they can give you sex at least, so if you train and eat right at least you'll have that covered.
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>>47194538
It's sad because one of the few pieces of advice that my dad gave me about women was that, if you're single and have female friends, they'll work to find someone for you. I'm fuzzy on the details, but I think that's part of how he met my mother.

Sure, I don't really have any female friends, let alone only a few male friends, but there's something so depressing about having each illusion about how romance might work getting shattered.
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>>47194538
I feel like it's probably a lot simpler than what you're making it out to be.

Also keep in mind that this is /tg/, where we are much more likely to attempt to long-haul romance/woo someone than what you're suggesting.
Which also smacks of /adv/ BTW. That's not a good thing, by far.
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>>47194538

I was about to spoiler post saying "you win, you guessed quite sharply and I'm impressed by your insight, but I don't want to play that game, I don't want to date women who ask what is your job before introducing themselves properly, and although I wish best of luck, and I realize you're both right and trying to help, it would be too soon if I never see you post again here".

But instead of being a gigantic faggot, I want to extend my hand as a friend, or as close to a friend as two strangers can be on the internet.
I'm not a big man, I need love and courage to take big leaps ahead, currently I have none and I stumble. I'm no hero that can charge through darkness. I just train and work without much purpose now and that's eroding me because I have never been able to fight for me and I realize I never will. I may break before the sun comes up, or maybe not, but at least for now we can share a beer and some stories. This is /tg/ after all.
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>>47194620
I'm not him, but I'll say that everything in my (limited) experience points to him being right. I'm not going to pretend I'm some kind of vagina shaman, or that I know how women think (Emperor guide any poor bastard who wanders down that rabbit hole), but they do tend to act more on emotion than men do. This doesn't owe so much to the logical superiority or emotional suppression of men as it does to the fact that women just seem to be more emotional in general, and most settings see them develop a fairly limited control over them.

Only been with 7 women, but I got there every time by acting fast, since I learned early on that being 'friends' is a good way to cock block yourself. I don't know how or why this is, but women seem to sort you into a no-fuck box if you don't establish yourself as a potential suitor pretty early on into your relationship. Exceptions exist of course, but those usually deal with genuine love, which breaks all kinds of rules, and seems to be pretty rare.

t. grad student
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>>47195035
Nobody starts out a hero, fag. The very definition of a hero is someone who eats shit on a daily basis so that other people don't have to. Heroes are tragic by definition, and you only need to look to the Greeks to see the truth of heroism. I don't think you want to be a hero. I think you want to be happy, and that's something only you can help yourself with.

No woman should ever complete you; you should be complete in and of yourself. Drop the gender equality shit for a minute and evaluate shit as objectively as you can. Whether or not you believe the sexes are equal, what's clear is that they are not equivalent in any way shape or form. Treating them the way you want to be treated is a great way to end up alone and misunderstood. That isn't to say you should treat them poorly, or as subordinates, but certainly not the way you would treat other men or yourself, were your roles reversed.

I'd love to tell you what I know, what I think I understand, what I hope is true about relationships, but at the end of the day, I'm numbers on a screen to you. Nothing I write will ever make me truly credible enough to heed in any serious capacity, and I'm sure as I type this, there's some faggot even lonelier than either of us typing up some tirade about how women are gentle, soulful creatures that need to be cherished constantly, or that I'm inherently untrustworthy because I possess the ability to lie with no real consequence here. So instead, I'll give you the best advice I ever got regarding women, and hope that it can help you like it did me. It can only do this, however, if you genuinely take it to heart, and apply it, no matter how difficult or strange it may seem: Women, first and foremost, want to be enveloped in your masculinity. If you don't make them feel secure, then they won't ever really be able to love you.

I hope my autism reaches you and helps you in some way, anon. You're a sick cunt if you wanna be. We're all gonna make it brah.
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>>47185451
Why would you allow anyone to force you into this?
I'm missing my lateral incisors and first premolars on both sides in my upper jaw. My canines shifted inwards at the base and sit at an angle, it's a bit vamp-ish. My mother and the couple of dentists that have seen them have all tried to suggest that I get some work done. I've always said absolutely not. I can eat just fine and unless I open up wide you can't even tell, so why would I want painful and expensive cosmetic surgery done for something you can't see?
Gotta stand up for yourself and your body.
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>>47195323
>physically desirable men who aren't basement dwelling mongoloids
So that's why /fit/ still can't get a date!
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>>47195035

What the others said and what you said have opened my eyes a little.

As >>47195113 states, I didn't came here trying to be a vagina shaman, but without realizing it I acted like one and disrespected you. It's really looking in the mirror and realizing that you got lost somewhere maybe I was too much into the method to see the goals or something, or I got in the line of >>47195323 because that's kind of how I deal with shit.

You were trying to act correctly in a world with fucked up morals where men and women that should have grown into happy and well adjusted people become chads and bitches. Even extended your hand when you were hurting instead of cursing my ass. I feel humbled.

I still think that you were too kind, and that one should move faster than Chad in order to win, but if after all the support and shit that you gave her she really loved you, maybe you weren't that far from it. She was more afraid of the future than you are in the dumps right now. That you're still training is a good sign too even if you can't see it clearly. I've seen many big men break harder than you did.

What you need I believe is focus, for all that energy you lost and spent should be yours. We at least deserve being able to search for our own happiness. Society pressures you into accepting things you shouldn't and conforming to unrealistic expectatives because that's how it controls us.

And wherever you are I accept that beer. Peace.
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>>47185847
oh shit I just now understood what you tried to say: I thought the BBEG wanted the PC's dick.
But no.
The mind-controlled waifu flirts hard with the PC to get him to stop adventuring so the BBEG can do his/her shit without being bothered.
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>>47195621

I saw what I posted and I need to proofread more, it seems that there was vastly more fag than what I wanted to convey. Shamefur display and all that. If I at least wanted to go more edgefag it would have made more sense.

But you got the intent behind it all, to man up and accept my mistakes. And I'm glad you did even if I don't know how you did it.

As to search for my happiness that's another horse. Right now I'm resisting the urge to fall into the same pit (and for no apparent reason it feels right to fall again, which is the opposite of sane), so maybe it's best if I wait that urge out before taking any final decisions about life. It has been a while but it can't last forever, reason has to win at some point. Beyond that I don't know.

Seeing how much fail there was in the last post I'm going to sleep for a few hours. Peace everyone and thanks.
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>>47190288
Wait, so that's what I'm doing wrong?! I have to ask the guy out?!
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>>47185760
Ah, the Sandman series. Excellent taste.
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>>47193738
How do hell can you expect him to love someone who has no self respect? Been in a relationship like that, you just feel like no matter what you do you hurt the other side, there is no enjoyment at all.
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>>47190685
really doe
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>>47195412
Because I was like 12? And getting teased a lot at school for it? And my family had the money for braces? And they were crowding out my lower teeth giving me a speech impediment?

> I can eat just fine and unless I open up wide you can't even tell, so why would I want painful and expensive cosmetic surgery done for something you can't see?

Our situations were clearly different.
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>>47195113
>I don't know how or why this is, but women seem to sort you into a no-fuck box if you don't establish yourself as a potential suitor pretty early on into your relationship.

You are trying to change the relationship chart we already take as granted and that shit causes confusion and backing away due to stress. Change is terrifying dude. Easier to cut losses and run than to start analyzing the cozy human relation thing you think you have figured out.
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>>47195323
Jesus christ, ignore that whole wall of text in the image and just find ANY goal in life for yourself. You won't believe how fast people flock to you when you suddenly have something to say about your day other than just what you browsed on the net.
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>>47180963
>fun-hating PCs heartlessly murder her as soon as they get the chance
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>>47190288
B-But that's the best kind of feeling anon not that this ever happened to me
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>>47197010

Wouldn't hurt to try. The target of your affections may be interested in you but not aware of your flirting, or think you're just being friendly.
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>>47180551
I'd probably walk away before she could finish.
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>>47188720
That's Rose, you dunce.
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>>47194331
>>47193949
>>47183118
Yuno is a shitty yandere, like everything else about that series.
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>>47190288
Happened couple times. Most of them turned out rather disastrous.
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>>47198808
Bitch, I will fucking stab you!
9th is love, 9th is life.
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>tfw no cute girl to stutter at you as she expresses any sort of interest
Is suicide justified when I get to the point where I'm a virgin at the age where women see me as beta bux?
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>>47199231
>tfw no cute girl to stutter at you
No, it's time you figure out why said scenario hasn't happened yet, and what you can do to improve your odds of having said thing happen.
Maybe it's time to finally stop eating so much, or take a shower, or get a job, or have a hobby beyond browsing 4chan and playing computer games.
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>>47199443
I'm sure I'll be able to change, all I need to do is find myself in Kafka's unpublished works where a normal dude metamorphoses into Chad
>stop eating so much
>take a shower
>get a job
Awful amount of assumptions you're making, friend. But I'm sure doing all of the above got that cute girl at the comic book shop to notice you, right? :3
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>>47199501
>But I'm sure doing all of the above got that cute girl at the comic book shop to notice you, right?
>senpai pls notice me uguu
How about you actually talk with her, you insecure dummy?
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>>47199544
Why bother having or showing interest mang? It's not going to be reciprocated, and even if it was you'd get about a month with an """"alternative"""" girl before Chadwick Thunderdick came along with something else she could latch on to for attention.
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>>47199763
>Why bother having or showing interest mang?
Why bother waking up if you're gonna get tired?
Why bother having fun if it will end?
Why bother living if you're gonna die?

If you noticed the girl in the comic shop, you are already having interest. So just go and fucking talk.
If she reciprocitates - fantastic. If she doesn't and hooks up with Chad - who gives a shit.
It doesn't hurt to try. Just because the odds aren't 100%, doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.
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>>47190078
Shimoneta is a dystopian series about a world where both sex-ed and sex humor are banned, starring a terrorist group who's main intent is to make lewd puns.

So, that's not what the series is, but I'd imagine that such a thing would happen in a fantasy version of it.
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>>47199501
right, so you're a whiny cunt who wants a girl to magically fall in love with him, despite having zero positive attributes and no will to change.
Yes, anon. Go kill your self. No one is turned on by little bitches, doubly so those who genuinely believe in /r9k/'s Chad bullshit.
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>>47199501
>>47200275
Here's a crazy idea. Get another hobby and meet new people?
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>>47197238
This. I have nothing to add to conversations with friends as I am now, but they can go on about all sorts of things. Various videogames, Dark Souls lore, even anime - just something more than 'heh heh I saw something funny on the net today.'

Though if you know enough about conversation material others might have, you can just join in the conversation that way. if nothing else you'll make friends, even if you find it hard to talk to someone one on one.
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>>47194620
>where we are much more likely to attempt to long-haul romance/woo someone than what you're suggesting.
I thought we were much more likely to touch ourselves in front of a computer
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>>47201055
Better yet, ask them about their interests and see if you can join in. Anything. But it would be best if you go find even more people to get to know. You get more social experience like that and you'll have interesting things to occupy yourself and talk about.
Keyword is being social, and it can be fucking learnt.
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>>47190087
fuck that
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>>47201055
>Though if you know enough about conversation material others might have, you can just join in the conversation that way
See, that shit scares me. I know most normal, rational people wouldn't ask me to fuck off, but the idea of talking to a complete stranger - even if I have something relevant to say rather than just randomly talking about something - still scares me
"scare" is the wrong word, of course, but I don't know what else to say.
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>>47201637
I have no idea how to deal with social anxiety since I'm more of a act first think later person.
I'd say start small but it might be better if you look up how to deal with it. Some self help book or similar shit.
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>>47201721
I don't know exactly how that will help when I consciously know there is nothing to fear.
Like, it would just tell me "yes, you are right, there is nothing to fear".
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>>47201789
Cause conscious knowledge and subconscious reactions don't really understand each other. There are developed methods to solve this, look up on them.
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>>47201789
>>47201859
> Social anxiety is the term used to describe a high level of shyness. Of course everyone feels shy or anxious in certain social environments, but for some people it can be a little more extreme. When this is the case it has a very debilitating affect on their lives and stops them doing the things they would like to. For example it may affect their confidence to go to college or work and impact on their confidence to make friends and enjoy their hobbies.
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>>47190097
Because the voice actress is dead
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>>47201789
>>47201909
I read through this, just disregard the illustrations, it's a good 101 guide.
http://www.moodjuice.scot.nhs.uk/shynesssocialphobia.asp
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>>47182666
no prob satan
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>>47201721
>>47201789
Cognitive behavioral therapy. We're all Pavlov's dogs. You can condition yourself to mitigate the panic response. It (probably) won't eliminate it entirely, but should be good enough not to hinder your daily life. Just don't expect immediate results, it takes months, sometimes years.

t. a diagnosed crazy. Nobody can tell.
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>>47202056
I will take a look, thank you
>>47201909
It's not so much shyness, I think - I have no problem talking in a group project, or speaking with someone when there's a specific purpose (like an interview, or a project), but I'd rather miss something during a lecture than ask the person sitting next to me what the professor said.
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>>47195935

Imagine trying to stop a BBEG while your mind controlled waifu tries to get you to sleep with her at every opportunity.

imagine her growing to like the sensation of being controlled and since she's already hungry for your dick anyway she's permanently on the BBEG's side soeley as a seductress to try and stop you.
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>>47202222
Just like >>47202188 said, there are ways to deal with this. I didn't search too deep for help on that but the link seems coherent enough to get you to understand the situation better.

t. ex-clinically depressive (there is help for everything)
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>>47202323
>>47185847
Okay seriously stop. Go to asstr, search for some mind control stuff, fap, then come back more rational.
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>>47183855
>>47192201

That is the Overlord. He is an evil BBEG who controls an army of minions to "terrorize" towns. The bosses you kill include hobbits in the shire, led by a boss hobbit who has grown fat and greedy, etc.

Like in Fable, you can play him as a good guy or a bad guy, but you will always be Chaotic.

This image, he has chosen the "good" waifu vs. the "evil" waifu. They are both evil, but she is sweet and cheerful but can be cold/evil when she needs to. I think this is only ever hinted at/shown once in the game. Her sister is black haired and is the typical sexy/seductress type, but is blatantly cruel and evil.
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>>47198760
I don't remember her looking that goody two shoes.
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>>47202411

I'm sorry.

What is the 'rational' thing we're discussing here?

BBEG is cute anime girl who loves your hero?
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>>47202378
I know it's stupid and sad, but that's honestly the only reason why I'm lifting at this point. I have this idea that if I looked better, then being social, especially approaching strangers, will be easier and people will be more open to me.
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>>47202323
I like mind control, but this is not my fetish. Please do not.
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>>47202523
Or a misunderstood awkward hunk who loves your hero. Purely cosmetic really.
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>>47202549

Ok that's fair.

But i'm still not seeing what's 'rational' about this discussion at all.
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>>47202538
While that's still admirable effort, lifting doesn't make you better at talking to people. Lifting makes you better at lifting. And talking to people makes you better at talking to people.
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>>47202538
It's not stupid and sad, it's a situation where you need to either search for help or help yourself. And the only way it can work is if you actually decide to solve the problem.

Also, you do realize that you are asking for compassion on 4chan, right? And on /tg/ at that.
Just a friendly warning...
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>>47202571
Nothing is. We are all just killing time and flinging feels and laughs at each other.
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>>47202579
yeah, but, who would you be more open to talk to: A skinnyfat stranger, or a jacked stranger?
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>>47202547

>This aspect of a fetish makes me uncomfortable please do not discuss it where I can see it

boy you're gonna have a bad time here.
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>>47180551
>The BBEG desires the fighter
>the fighter has feelings for the cleric
>the cleric is head over heels for the BBEG
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>>47202656

Right okay that's what I thought.

Then can you tell >>47202411 to chill the fuck out already cause jeeze.
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>>47202671
>no one should mind my /d/-tier fetish it's totally normal to like this
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>>47202703

I can tell you mean well but

Prepare to be told to go back to tumblr.

A lot.
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>>47202411
>>47202688

You.
>>47202411
Chill the fuck out cause jeeze.
Also, be happy it's not a more extreme fetish he has.
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>>47202660
A dressed stranger.
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>>47202739

>Also, be happy it's not a more extreme fetish he has.

huh?
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>>47202660

Work on your core more than anything else. You watch Captain America with some girls and they usually lose their minds over Cap's abs and chest, the arms are just a nice bonus.

Anyway, I hope it helps build the confidence you need, and I hope you find your way to happiness somehow. Keep in mind that people out there are rooting for you.
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>>47202790
Like, if the BBEG was attracted to their farts or w/e
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Typically my BBEGS are always willing to work with the party in some fashion and compromise. While I've never had them romance the party there have been offers of marriage to a daughter or nobility. In one case I had a harpy general decide she liked the parties thief. The BBEG offered to set the two up with their own castle and land.
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>>47202982
Did they accept?
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>>47188285
Or it could be used to cut the cheese.
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>>47190097
In general her character is fucked up, it would be fine if she did her acts in secret when no one else is looking but the fact she does it openly and no one stops her or cant stop her is messed up.
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>>47183410

...I'll take the white one.
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>>47189876
This isn't normal?

>>47191679
Mine's near identical but I want to be the qt tramp that gets fucked by amazons that like to remind me this is all I'm good for and I'm barely useful as a fucktoy anyway

>>47202685
I smell a threesome
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>>47181115
Pathfinder's a failure of a system, Homura's a failure of a hero, they mesh well together.
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>>47202685
>>47203172

Or a bloodbath. My money's on the cleric.
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>>47203172
>threesome
That's going to be an awkward fucking threesome.
Everyone want's one person's attention in particular, but not whoever is trying to get their attention. Repeatedly.
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>>47202996
Nah. They killed her and the BBEG. They didn't really seem to care about the fallout either. Basically after that the surrounding lands were thrown into chaos and the King and his army that set them after the BBEG moved in to conquer the land killing most if not all the populace. Funnily enough the thief actually asked for land and a title from the king afterwards but I ultimately had the king give him a non committed answer with the excuse that with them cleansing the tainted lands he had to be diligent with the treasury and would award them greater rewards once everything stabilized. They didn't really catch one that he wasn't going to give them anything beyond the initial payment. Sadly, the game fell apart after that since som of the players we starting up new jobs..
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>>47181190
It's not a very good class, overall. It manages to be better than Fighter and Rogue, but, that's not a challenge. Magical Child (the archetype) is good for like a 1-level dip so that you can do your transformation sequence, and then focus on a better class for the meat of your character.
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>>47203250
>>47203256
A mix of hatefucking and regular fucking?
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>>47203314
I like the way you think anon.
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>>47203314
If they all go in to a bedroom knowing what's going on, I see >>47203256
If they just know 'sex, in there, with [person]' it'll be a fight.
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>>47203263
Their fault for not letting imagination run wild I guess.
Too bad about the group. You found another one?
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>>47190087

Id be like "Its the middle ages, I dont give a fuck", fuck that DM man
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>>47203374
>Mmmmmm, cleric, mind moving your knee a bit? It's poking me in the ass.
>Wait, whose voice is this?!
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>>47190271

>short-haired tall girl

Fuck me I can't never find one.
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>>47203429
Come on, even in the past you weren't supposed to fuck your sister.
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>>47203429
Unless it's the middle ages in MENA (or any period in MENA past the 7th century) incest is a fucking no no. The Romans outlawed incest to the 4th degree, and the Catholic Church actually increased it to the 7th. The Habsburgs only got so fucked up that the Spanish branch literally went extinct because its last member was a drooling, infertile retard because the nobility routinely ignored the Church's prohibition on incestuous marriage. In fact, modern laws in Western Europe may just be more accepting of cosanguinity than the Catholic Church was, as evidenced by the fact that about half of British Pakistani's are in cosanguinous marriages (often first cousins).
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>>47203707
Oh wow, where did you get the info?
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>>47181183
>Paizo is obviously trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator and capture as much audience as it can before its time has passed.

This sounds more like someone jokingly wrote Anime: The Class a few years ago and they are throwing it into a less important book now the game has been out forever rather than whatever nefarious picture you paint.
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>>47197074
How bad was it, anon?
Also
>implying anyone browsing 4chan can get hurt
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>>47203752
>On the Catholic Church
Just wiki bro.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consanguinity#Religious_and_traditional_law

>On Islam
http://reproductive-health-journal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1742-4755-6-17

>On British Pakistani's
Some BBC documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2w4zAken08
There are multiple parts, but for the 50% statistic you just need the first 25 seconds of the first part.

Yeah, it sounds pretty fucking incredible but it's true. On top of that, talking about that is incredibly taboo.

But before I get accused of being /pol/ or whatever, my point was nothing more than to point out that outside of the nobility, incest was not only uncommon in Europe but frowned upon. Much moreso than in neighboring regions in the world.
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>>47192843
But what if she likes that?
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>>47203870
Well, it ended with me saying, this is no way to live and calling a break up meeting. Worst part?

"I apologize if I hurt you somehow and made this happen." Fuck that, I broke up with you because of this same shit, show some personality dammit. Anger maybe? I don't even know.
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>>47204176
Ah. That's quite unfortunate. Though I thought there was a difference between amount of self respect and amount of personality. You may have found someone who simply lacked both.
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>>47204350
Personality was there, one of the nicest people I know. But the issues, man. I have enough of my own, I don't need to solve someone else's, especially if they don't see the problem in the first place.

Maybe it was cold of me, but I genuinely believed it would be a wake up call. From what I hear, it wasn't.
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He's actually the BBEG of a previous campaign that our party was hired to escort to his trial. He hits on the wizard probably because she's the only female in the party, but she suspects it's because he wants her to dispel the Mage's Disjunction branded on his tongue that prevents him from casting.
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>>47204596
Where is this from?
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Read "Of Human Bondage" by W. Somerset Maugham for ideas how it's possible to love someone that you hate.
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>>47204578
What would you have changed in order to fix this situation, anon? While I'm 900% sure science won't advance fast enough for me to ever become a loli, at least I can look at some things people have done and shape my own life based on what is said.
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>>47204676
My shit redraw.

It summed up their relationship well enough.
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>>47204732
This is no shit redraw, this is quality redraw.
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>>47204777
The former is the redraw, m8.
My apologies if that was already got though; sometimes tone gets lost in text and timing of the posts.
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>>47204724
I guess I was at fault as well.

Could have told him to grow a pair if he hadn't already in puberty and to stop thinking about others so much. If I ask, where do we go out tonight? the answer should never ALWAYS be, wherever you want dear. Your own opinions. Form them.
But nope, I played the get the fuck out card and said I had some things of my own to sort out.

Also, if we are out of cinema and plan to go out some more, you don't say after checking your phone you need to go home and call your mom to say you arrived safe so she can go sleep.

Not even his really nice looks could have saved that relationship.
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>>47204857
Hahaha, I know the former one is, I watched Kill la Kill ffs. You did a good redraw, deal with it.
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>>47204904
KlK was great, though I need to catch up on Studio Trigger's other works.
Many thank, boss!
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>>47180551
I'd just have it be a fakeout, where she pretends to be romantically interested in one of the characters before revealing that she was lying so that she could emotionally manipulate him.
And then leave it up in the air which part was the lie.
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>>47182303
Kidnap Princess Peach, probably make her marry him, take over the Mushroom Kingdom. If someone else has taken Peach and/or his castle, defeat them so he can get back to doing what he loves.
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This thread has put me in mind to watch/read some Magical Girls

Anyone have recommendations? My /a/ power level is pretty pleb tier, so all I know offhand are the obvious big names. Sailor Moon, Cardcaptor Sakura, Madoka and Yuki Yuna Is a Hero if I want to be sad, Nanoha, etc.

What's some less common names that might be a good watch or read, any anons here who also like anime?
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>>47206292
Symphogear, any one if the dozens of precures, Twintail if you want more sentai.
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>>47206324
I do want some sentai, yes! Also I honestly keep fucking forgetting Precure exists. All the others I listed I've watched at least part of, I don't know how I have never gotten around to a Precure season.
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>>47206292
Uuuh...shit. The only magical girls I watched were part of my saturday morning cartoons growing up.

Maybe Tokyo Mew Mew is good?
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>>47206292
>>47206551
I remember watching some of that. It was solid, although it's been forever so my memories on it are fuzzy.
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>>47206598
I remember actually being emotionally affected by a few of the episodes. Considering I was 'just ironically watching it while waiting for the not-girly shows to come on,' that might be a good sign.
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>>47181065
>tfw you recognize the source of the image.
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>>47206762
>tfw no one gives source

Goddamn it, it's a cropped image. I can't do shit to find it.
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>>47207249
"Mama no Tama", which translates to "Mom's testicles". If you couldn't tell by the title, it's about a son who sucks his mother's cock.
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>>47207335
Huh.



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