From aliens to assassins, from spandex to shirts-and-jeans, this is the thread to discuss all things superheroic, at least as tabletop games go. Mutants & Masterminds, Marvel Heroic, Heroes Unlimited, Dark Champions, Villains and Vigilantes, and any other system out there, this is the thread for you if you want to feel superhuman.Previous thread: >>47063627Current topic: the thread is building its own five-man superteam. Come join the fun!
>>47093477It's characters like Starfire that the M&M advantage "Attractive" is for. Your character is exceptionally attractive by in-universe standards; considering EVERYONE is attractive by comic book standards, that's impressive.
>>47093356>Current topic: the thread is building its own five-man superteam. Come join the fun!I suggest we keep the rolling in the old thread for the time being, otherwise we'll spam this one into autosage too quickly.
>>47093522Might even be Attractive 2 with Kory because just by walking into a room she got the attention of an entire floor of a police station.And she got her first job on Earth by walking through the door of a modeling agency.
>>47093547I think the police station bit was due to her wardrobe, though.
>>47093547Being orange didn't stop the modelling job?
>>47093597When your character is as blisteringly hot (kek) as Starfire, skintone becomes irrelevant.
First member of the team is a Mystic. His vague fluff and stats from generating from MnM's GM kit >Magical Heritage: Your family has a long history of being blessed with magical powers... or perhaps it’s a curse.>Str 0 Sta 0 Agl 1 Dex 3 Fgt 4 Int 2 Awe 7 Pre 4>Equipment 3 (Headquarters), Ranged Attack 5, Trance, and also rollon the table below.>Headquarters—Size: Medium, Toughness: 10; Features: Concealed,Dual-size (Huge), Laboratory, Library, Living Space, Personnel, Sealed,Security System, Self-repairing, Workshop>Student of the Arts: You study and research constantly in order to keep informed.>Advantages: Ritualist, Well-Informed>Affecting Presence: You have the skills necessary to explore new places.>Skills: Intimidation 4, Persuasion 4,Expertise: Magic 10, Insight 6, Perception 4Offensive Powers>Magic Spells: Array (24 points, plus 5 points of Alternate Effects)>Magical Blast: Ranged Damage 12 >Mystic Constructs: Create 7, Continuous, Innate, Precise >Dispel Magic: Nullify 8, Broad (Magic), Simultaneous>Maddening Blast: Ranged Damage 8, Resisted by Will>Enervation: Ranged Weaken 8, Broad (Physical Abilities (one at a time))>Mystic Bindings: Ranged Affliction 12 (Resisted by Will; Hindered and Vulnerable, Defenseless and Immobile), Extra Condition, Limited DegreeSeconday Powers>Astral Projection: Remote Sensing 8 (Visual, Auditory, Mental),Limited—Physical body is defenseless, Subtle 2>Levitation and Mystic Shield: Flight 4 (30 MPH); Sustained Protection 12, Impervious 6Other powers>Additional Magic Spells>Illusory Appearance: Morph 2, Attack,Burst Area, Selective>Teleportation: Teleport 3 (250 feet), Accurate,Easy, Extended (8 miles), Portal>Apparition: Immunity 2 (Suffocation);Insubstantial 4 (Incorporeal)D20 for our second member
Rolled 15 (1d20)>>47093658Rollan
>>47093658I thought some anon dubbed him Professor Witchalok.
>>47093688Summoner. To power through these give me 4d20
Rolled 11, 16, 6, 18 = 51 (4d20)>>47093705
>>47093690I was kinda joking.
>>47093658We've got a Summoner!>The Summoner is an archetype that covers a lot of ground, from heroes who create duplicates of themselves to those who animate images, summon otherworldly creatures, or create minions out of thin air. In order to make the Summoner fit into this book, these tables produce a duplicator who’s either a Martial Artist or a summoner whose summoned creatures are minions with decent combat abilities. You are free to swap points around to change your duplicating Martial Artist into a duplicating Powerhouse, just be sure the duplicates remain within their power level limits (PL8 for Twin, PL7 for TripletsLet's start with 2d20.
>>47093658So, lets see. He's not particularly gifted physically, nor he is a super-genius. Magic flows in his veins, but he has to study constantly to actually use it.Could be a good fit for the "or maybe it's a curse" actually - ancient heritage suddenly awakened in a mostly average guy, then he dove deep into researching to figure out what is happening to him.>>47093690Jacking a name from a random comic making a joke on being as dumb as possible does not make a good character.>>47093705Ahh, summoner.I'd recommend switching to Deluxe HH's quickstart rather than GM Kit for this one, he's got more options there.
Rolled 4, 7 = 11 (2d20)>>47093719
>>47093727https://www.dropbox.com/s/eykdxi5fmvgv8sn/M%26M.zip?dl=0Deluxe handbook's in here for those who don't have it.
>>47093727>So, lets see. He's not particularly gifted physically, nor he is a super-genius. Magic flows in his veins, but he has to study constantly to actually use it.>Could be a good fit for the "or maybe it's a curse" actually - ancient heritage suddenly awakened in a mostly average guy, then he dove deep into researching to figure out what is happening to him.That, or he's the next wizard in a storied family of master wizards.
>>47093727I kinda want him to be like Doc Strange in that his name is his hero name. It IS a family thing after all with him.There actually IS a "The Baron Strange" in England among peerage records, three I think:
>>47093805>There actually IS a "The Baron Strange" in England among peerage records, three I think:That's the title of the Stanley family
>>47093714>Duplicator: You can summon duplicates of yourself.>Str 4 Sta 4 Agl 5 Dex 5 Fgt 10 Int 1 Awe 2 Pre 0Primary Power>Triplets: Summon 7 (Two PL7, 105 point duplicates),Heroic, Horde, Mental Link, Multiple Minions 1 (2duplicates)Advantages>Daze (Deception), Improved Initiative, Power Attack, Set-up 2, TeamworkSkills>Acrobatics 6, Athletics 6, Deception 8, Expertise (Choose one) 7,Perception 5, Stealth>Expertise (Choose one: Magic or Science) 6, Perception 4, Stealth 4So our Summoner is done so I'm just gonna use the extra d20s for our third memberGadgeteer>Scientist: At heart, you’re a scientist. You’re alwaysworking on something in the lab, but you like to get“out in the field” and test the practical applicationsof your inventions. Plus, there are all sorts of unusualthings out in the world that you’d never get to experiencein the lab.>Str 1 Sta 2 Agl 2 Dex 2 Fgt 4 Int 10 Awe 4 Pre 0Advantages>Athletic: You take care of yourself and are physically fit>Advantages:Evasion, Improved Initiative, Uncanny DodgeSkills>Explorer: You have the skills necessary to explore new places.>Skills: Athletics 7, Perception 5, Stealth 4,Close Combat: Unarmed or Gadgets 6, Expertise: Science 10,Ranged Combat: Gadgets 6, Technology 10, Vehicles 4So I need another 4d20 to wrap up this one.
>>47093805And from the looks of things, his training and study has paid off well for him. He's got several magical blasts, he can create constructs, weaken and/or bind enemies, astral project, fly and protect himself with a shield, alter his appearance, teleport, and render himself ghostly. That's a very large toolkit.
I'm going to jump in with Deluxe HH chargen>>47093688 Summoner>>4709371411 gets us out of duplicator archetype and into general summoner.>Str 2 Sta 4 Agl 2 Dex 2 Fgt 2 Int 4 Awe 4 Pre 416 goes to summoning Minions6 puts it at Ninjas....and that's kinda it. Duplicates are more interesting desu, they got elemental controller, martial arts or general powerhouse as secondary archetype
>>47093833Correction; it was the Stanley family 500 years ago, since I do believe it is a defunct title.
>>47093837You fucked up the skills. It's just>Acrobatics 6, Athletics 6, Deception 8, Expertise (Choose one) 7, Perception 5, Stealth 6So the Summoner is actually a set of hyper-athletic triplets who are sneaky, tricky gits.
>>47093845Mystics get ALL the best shit.Maybe each is an inherited spell and his study and research comes from a long association with the occult.I kinda want to make this guy UK-based and ACTUALLY make him the modern Baron Strange almost....
>>47093837>Third member is a gadgeteer>he's athletic scientist who's an explorer and is apart of a super team...Is this guy Jonas Venture/Johnny Quest's dad
Rolled 7, 10, 19, 18 = 54 (4d20)>>47093837>>47093837
>>47093890Doc Savage is the character archetype, actually.And since Doctor Venture is practically IDENTICAL to Doc Savage I think the comparison is deliberate.
So we have a British baron coming from a (relatively) prestigious family of wizards, a set of athletic triplets who seem to operate on a hivemind and can be sneaky gits, and not-Doc Savage.
>>47093952The not/Doc Savage is not actually particularly physically tough if you look at his stats.Scientist is the LEAST "active" archetype in fact.
>>47093925Offensive Power>Force Armor: Enhanced Strength 8; AE—Burst Area Affliction 8 (Resisted by Fortitude; Dazed and Vulnerable, Defenseless and Stunned), Extra Condition, Limited Degree; AE—Create 8; AE—Burst Area Damage 8; AE—Reaction Damage 4; AE— Ranged Damage 7, Accurate 2; AE—Move Object 8; Activation—Move Action (-1 point), Removable (-4 points)Defensive Power>Energy-Absorbing Body Suit: Protection 10, Impervious 6, Removable (-3 points)Movement Powers>Personal Teleporter: Teleport 4 (500 feet), Increased Mass (100 lbs.), Turnabout, Removable (-2 points)Innate Powers>Technopath: Comprehend 2 (Machines), DistractingSo our team so far is>Baron Strange>Threesome>Doc SavageD20 to see who else joins the crusade of justice
Rolled 11 (1d20)>>47093976Personally my vote for names are>Baron Bizare>Triple Threat>Doctor Chase
>>47093597>>47093635She just lied and said she was from Jersey
>>47093976He's got some kinda force-field thing? Seems kinda like Rocket's force field belt from Milestone Comics...
>>47093994>Crime Fighter6d20 for our caped crusader
>>47093976We've got the Powerhouse, a.k.a. not-Hulk.>The Powerhouse is the strongest one there is! Where other archetypes spread their points out amongst a number of different powers and abilities, the Powerhouse concentrates on two things; strength and protection. In fights, the Powerhouse is always on the front line, tearing it up and, even so, is usually the last one standing. The Powerhouse is often inhuman-looking, either because he or she’s been turned into a hulking brute, or is from an alien world, or is capable of transforming into living stone, steel, or something equally resistant to damage.>>47094006He's got a multi-functional exo-suit that lets him do all kinds of shit. I wouldn't say he's going full Iron Man, but he's got a lot of the skillset.
>>47093994So we have a crime fighter6d20 for our vigilante.
Rolled 11, 2, 18, 14, 15, 5 = 65 (6d20)>>47094007Herewego
>>47094007>>47094040Weird. My GM kit says powerhouse.
>>47094037His exosuit is energy contruct, like Green Lantern stuff.
>>47094040>>47094007I guess I didn't realize it went through and I was looking at the wrong fucking table. I must be tired
>>47093994>>Baron BizareI've went to dig a little on naming sites to try for alliteration a-la quadruple S of Doctor Strange.And I'm stuck between two options for surnameBaldric Barnett, Baron (of the) Bizarreor Baldric Brassington, Baron (of the) Bizarre>BALDRIC m English (Archaic) Derived from the Germanic elements bald "bold, brave" and ric "power, rule"...seems nice and fitting, right?>BARNETT English Derived from place originating from Old English bœrnet "cleared by burning".Hinting on some dramatic origin of the sorcerous heritage>BRASSINGTON English From a place name, meaning "enclosure by a steep path".Or on how they encircle and guard some secret
>>47094046>>47094046Yeah I fucked up my bad. So yeah power house. I switched the results for 15 and 5 around because 15 would have been a reroll.>Innate Power: You’re an alien or are from some hidden offshoot of humanity with incredible powers.>Str 4 Sta 4 Agl 1 Dex 0 Fgt 6 Int 1 Pre 1 Awe 1Advantages>Power Attack>Driven: You’re capable of pushing yourself beyond yourlimits. Regularly.>Extraordinary EffortSkills>Close Combat: Unarmed 2>Sharp Mind: You’re difficult to fool.>Expertise: (Choose one) 4, Insight 4, Perception 4Offensive Powers 1/2>Super-Strength: Enhanced Strength 8; Power-lifting 4>Cut Loose!: Penetrating 10 on Strength>Foot Stomp: Line Area Damage 10, Powerhouse andtarget must be in contact with the same surfaceDefensive Powers:>Super-Stamina: Enhanced Stamina 10>Thick Skin: Impervious Toughness 10I need 3d20 to wrap him
Rolled 13, 13, 16 = 42 (3d20)>>47094107
>>47094102Why not make Barnett his middle name? Because I love all of it.
Rolled 12, 6, 6 = 24 (3d20)>>47094107
>>47094119Defensive Powers cont.>Resistant: Immunity 10 (choose two 5-point immunities:Alteration effects, sensory Affliction effects, Fatigueeffects, or a damage type (Bullets, Cold, Electricity,Fire, Magic, Radiation, Sonic))Movement Power>Super-Leaping: Leaping 12 (4 miles)>Like Hitting a Brick Wall: Reaction Damage 1,Penetrating 1And our little Power House is done.
Damn, I never expected the supergroup suggestion to take off that quickly.
>>47094107>>47094143So we've got an alien powerhouse who is quick-witted, hits like a freight train, can cause seismic shocks, is resistant to damage and has got MAD HOPS.
>>47094107>>47094143I kinda want this to be a woman.Make a change and that instead if a dude the absolute most burly and invulnerable person in the group is a lady.
>>47094129Using this for our fourth member so he/she is a psychic. >In-Born: Your powers are due to the fact that you’re amutant or a member of a psychic race.>Sta 0 Sta 1 Agl 1 Dex 2 Fgt 0 Int 2 Awe 4 Pre 0Advantages>Contemplative: You are always calm and controlled.>Fearless, Trance, Ultimate Effort (Will checks)So I'm gonna say 8d20 for to wrap her up.
>>47094143I'd say our alien powerhouse is resistent to fatigue and magic.
>>47094170So our powerhouse is pretty much alien She-Hulk.
Rolled 10, 18, 20, 3, 18, 8, 19, 7 = 103 (8d20)>>47094172Fifth member.>>47094175Scratch that: fatigue and sensory affliction.
Seconding >>47094170.How often is a woman the ONLY super-bruiser on the team?
>>47094181It's damn shame Knockout is already a taken name. ALL the good superhero names are taken,
>>47094181>>47094185Pretty much. It helps fill the obligatory "hot alien chick" quota.
>>47094206Too cheesy and lame. She's an alien, so her name ought to be exotic.
>>47094205Huh.How about making her blue instead of green and her name is just "Cobalt Blue", her exact skin color?
>>47094184Skills>Ninja: You have been trained in the way of the ninja.>Student: You’re a high-school, college, or post-graduate student.>Skills:Acrobatics 4, Perception 4, Stealth 4, Expertise: (Choose one) 6, Insight 2, Perception 4Offensive Powers>Telekinesis: Move Object 10, Accurate 4>Telekinetic Column: Line Area 2 (60 feet)>Telekinetic Snare: Ranged Cumulative Affliction 10 (Resisted by Dodge; Hindered and Vulnerable, Defenseless and Immobile), Accurate 4, Extra Condition, Limited Degree, Limited—There must be materials about to bind the target>Telekinetic Bolt: Ranged Damage 10,Accurate 4 Defensive Powers>Telekinetic Shield: Impervious Protection 10, Sustained>Mental Awareness: Senses (Mental Awareness, Acute,Detect, Radius, Range)Our final member is complete
>>47094218No, I was referring to the Runaways, where Princess Powerful is a little girl and their bruiser/brick
So our super team is >Baldric Barnet/Brassington, Baron of the Bizarre>Tripple Threat/Threesome>Doc Chase>Knockout/Blue Cobalt/Princess Powerful>Unamed PsychicSo what can we do to flesh out our team? So Baldric is confirmed male and the Powerhouse is a confirmed female. Did we decide on anyone else's gender?
>>47094235....a telekinetic ninja college student?That's too insane to be anything BUT a comic book character.
>>47094172>>47094235So our fifth member is an alien woman with native-born telekinetic powers. She's perpetually cool-headed, has ninja training and is well-educated, and is highly aware of her surroundings. We could say she's from the same race as our powerhouse.
>>47094275It doesn't meant she's gotta be an alien. She could be a mutant easily enough.
>>47094275They're twins. It's poetry.
>>47094284Could be a mutant, yes.
>>47094302I like the idea that she's/he's a grad student who sucks at explaining her origins.>"So, you're grad student? What kinda superhero is that?">"No, I AM a grad student but I have ninja training.">"So you're a ninja?">"Yeah. Well, not a very good ninja, I'm actually a telekinetic.">"Ninjas are telekinetic? You're telekinetic because you're a ninja?">"No, I'm a ninja because I'm ninja, I'm a telekinetic because I'm a mutant."
>>47094260I feel like Gadgeteer and the Mystic are total bros.
>>47094318Why I do feel like the entire team gives him/her constant shit because he/she's terrible at explaining this.
>>47094335You mean like Shinobi+Psionic?
>>47094345Exactly like that.
>>47086921>It DOES give him the highest unarmed attack accuracy in the entire book, bar NONE and literally every single Advantage applicable in close combat you can even getHe's actually tied with Bats at +20 accuracy, IIRC. Kid only has 1 more point in Fighting instead of skills.They both probably pack every fighting style advantage in the book too (friggin bat has 280+ pp total, jesus fuck)Penetrating and Multiattack on punch though, that's nice advantage.>>47088033Well given how combo-riffic the fighting games are, Multiattack wouldn't be amiss, and that lays down the hurt on anything that doesn't pack Impervious.>>47089191I've done some math for funsies once, doing both two move actions and athletics roll for more speed (on both of them) matches pretty well with olympic runners.Speed 2 is when your casual jog is as good as them.
>>47094335>"I'm the Psinobi!">"...What kind of bloody name is that?">"Because shinobi's a word for ninja a-">"I thought your power was moving stuff with your mind.">"No, I'm a mutant and my p-">"So your mutant power is that you have ninja training.">"No, I have telekinesis.">"What about the ninja?">"I have ninja training and I have a telekenitic powers. That's why I'm called the PSInobi.">"It's still a bloody stupid name."
>>47094341Yes this is fun.Also occasional rib to the mystic about "Dig up any more B's in your title lately?"
>>47094365They should just fucking mark down which character's powers are inflated due to popularity power.>Note; drop 50 to 80 points from this build when he isn't crossing over with anyone and the plot isn't arbitrarily increasing his abilities to make him seem useful because the author doesn't actually know how to write about strategy or using intelligence.
>>47094260The easiest thing to do is consider the Complications for each character. This is what stands out to me for each.MYSTIC>Honor: It’s not uncommon for a Mystic to follow a code of conduct that keeps them on the straight and narrow, perhaps because it’s the right thing to do, perhaps because they need to in order to keep their powers in check.>Motivation—Responsibility: The Mystic was given his or her power for a reason—to defend Earth, to hunt down otherworldly creatures, or any number of other options. Or perhaps the Mystic recognizes that his or her power comes with a price.>Power Loss: Mystics often have the Complication that prevents them from using their powers when they can’t move and/or speak to cast their spells.SUMMONER (TRIPLETS)>Motivation—Doing Good: Some Summoners are heroes because they believe it’s the right thing to do.>Motivation—Thrills: Outside of their Summon ability, many Summoners don’t have a lot of powers. Some may find the constant threat of danger to be a bit much, but not this Summoner! The more danger, the better!GADGETEER>Enemy: For some reason, Gadgeteers tend to have a nemesis who believes they need to prove how superior he, she, or it is compared to the Gadgeteer.>Fame: Gadgeteers often don’t hide their identities from the public and in fact might be media darlings because of their incredible inventions.>Motivation—Responsibility: The Gadgeteer often feels it’s only right to use his or her incredible intelligence to help others.>Relationship: Gadgeteers often have a number of important peoplein their life, either family, loved ones, other researchers, or employeeswho like to get into trouble.[cont]
>>47094394They do the reverse with Joker.>To properly utilize this guy, spam complications over and over and over
>>47094404POWERHOUSE>Motivation—Acceptance: Those Powerhouses with the Prejudice complication often choose this motivation and become a hero in order to earn a place in “normal” society. An alien Powerhouse may also choose this motivation even if he or she doesn’t look unusual.>Motivation—Responsibility: Due to their incredible powers, many Powerhouses become heroes because they feel as if they have a responsibility to do so.>Prejudice: The Powerhouse often looks unusual and struggles with feeling isolated or like an outsider, or even being treated like a monster!PSYCHIC>Identity: Psychics often keep their identities and the fact that they have powers a secret from the rest of the world.>Motivation—Responsibility: Some Psychics use their powers for good, because they feel they must have been given their powers to help others.>Power Loss: Because mental powers often require some amount of focus; drugs, disorientation of any kind, or noisy settings may prevent a Psychic from using his or her powers.Any other input?
>>47094389I feel like the mystic does alliteration when he speaks and it's completely unintentional.>"Bravo buddies. We bested the Balrog in battle.">"Can you go a day with out saying like three bs in a row?"
>>47094372I like the idea thatA: He's reverse-gender Psylocke andB: That the ninja is entirely incidental, kinda like how half of the characters in GI Joe have ninja training. He was just a Japanese Englishman who's family happen to have ninja stuff so he learned some of the skills.
Mystic and Gadgeteer are men.Powerhouse and Psychic are women.Triplets are probably all girls, to play up their athletic side.
>>47094404>>47094412Mystic,Summoner and Powerhouse I'm fine with. I feel like the Gadgeteer is doing this out for thrills because since he's a scientist and a explorer.I think he's just passionate about his work and it just so happens he does superheroics to do it. While the psychic I dunno. I feel like we can spice him/her up a bit more.
>>47094414>B: That the ninja is entirely incidental, kinda like how half of the characters in GI Joe have ninja training. He was just a Japanese Englishman who's family happen to have ninja stuff so he learned some of the skills.This, pretty much. The ninja bit just came naturally to her from her upbringing. She's still a telekinetic first and foremost, but her ninja skills somehow always come up when it's most relevant (tailing someone, slipping into a building vent).
>>47094428I don't think the Triplet are literal triplets. It's just one girl who can make two copies of herself.
>>47094440I get the feeling Doc Savage gets unnaturally giddy any time he's on the verge of a breakthrough or discovery.>GUYS>GUYS>YOU HAVE NO>FUCKING>IDEA>HOW BIG THIS IS
>>47094454>MY BELT>MY BELT>LISTEN GUYS>MY BELT CAN>LISTEN GUYS THIS IS IMPORTANT>MY BELT CAN FOLD SPACE GUYS>Baron: "Fascinating Davis, truly. You mastery of the fundamental aspects of reality are truly astonishing. Truly nothing gets past your mind in science.">*levitates coffee cup with mind*
>>47094440Based on the psychic's profile, she's got a mind like a steel trap. She's very calm and centered and generally doesn't get rattled easily. She just also happens to be a grad student (ostensibly under Doc Savage's tutelage) and had incidental ninja training growing up.
>>47094480She's also intensely aware of her surroundings. Very few things get past her.
>>47094451That also works.
>>47094470>>47094454...Is there a drawfriend in this thread? I need a picture of Doc and Baron.
>>47094480>>47094487All symptomatic of ninja training stuff.Calm, collected, aware.>Baron: "Your aplomb is admirable my dear. Your mental disciplines aid you?">Psinobi: "Actually that would be my ninja training again.">Baron: "God you're infuriating to talk to."
I like "Brian Barnett Brassington" as Baron Bizarre.Makes one recall Brian Braddock aka Captain Britain.
Triplet and the Powerhouse go the gym together. Psychic tried joining them once but didn't like all the stares (or the crowd) the other two were attracting.Baron makes the best coffee, something that Doc actively dislikes him for.>Doc: Magic doesn't count!>Powerhouse: It does when it tastes good!
>>47093356The heck happened to Starfire?Did Raven get the same treatment too?
>>47094562>coffeeHe's British, so it gotta be tea.
>>47094574Starfire's costume is always fairly revealing in comics. Raven's New 52 treatment is far worse.
I like the idea that Baron's house is quite nice as per his hereditary peerage status but that he doesn't have a particularly large amount of money (no wealth benefit).>Blue: "What do you mean you're strictly middle class? Your house is HUGE.">Baron: "This may surprise you, but listing one's profession as 'Actual Wizard' is not a particularly profitable one. Hell on tax returns too."
>>47094574Starfire has ALWAYS dressed like a stripper. The friendliest, nicest, most energetic stripper ever.>>47094578Speaking as someone who was born in Manchester; we don't ALL drink tea.
>>47094592What the actual fuck is all this
>>47094618She is a birb now
>>47094618Jim Lee being totally unwilling to admit it's not 1992 anymore.
The powerhouse is your typical friendly alien woman: congenial, demure and thoughtful. She felt like a perpetual outsider before she found common ground with the motley crew, and now she's never felt more belonged than ever.Just take this and color her blue or something.
>>47094625I think Lee was behind that design
>>47094592Her original look is perfect.Even if she does kinda resemble Sasha Grey here.
You guys know of Masks? It's not released yet but I've got the Beta and can't decide if it's any good or not
So what the unifying thing for the team?I feel like the Baron and Doc have had run ins/team ups prior to the team. Usually dealing with weird other dimensional stuff.
>>47094650Share it for everybody to see?
>>47094607>Starfire has ALWAYS dressed like a stripper. The friendliest, nicest, most energetic stripper ever.You forgot 'With the biggest hair ever'. Seriously, superheros/villians with actual superpowered hair envy whatever care routine starfire has.
>>47094677Isn't Star's hair on fire like half the time though?
>>47094626I kinda like the idea that rather then being Starfire she's more...really level-headed.Not particular excitable, not particularly femime or charming, just very aware and very difficult to fool and quite perceptive.Perhaps reacts like She-Hulk does in the comics sometimes to danger; with mild amusement or seeming to lack concern for her safety because she KNOWS how tough she is.Imagine somehow who GREW UP invulnerable, or got more invulnerable over their life; they'd take the time to be aware of things because they're never in a hurry or rushed because they know there's not really a lot out there that can hurt them. It takes an actual tank round to actually hurt her after all!
>>47094677She DOES have really big hair even taking into account 80's Hair Inflation.She STILL has a ton of it even today.>>47094686It's not ACTUALLY on fire, it's just kind of a visual effect, like the red blue Superman's cape makes.I think.
>>47094574She grew up, m8.>>47094652The psychic is an intern/grad assistant of the Doc, and the alien powerhouse fell in with them as she felt most comfortable around them. The triplets girl, I'm not sure.>>47094687Pretty much. By Earth standards, the alien has a very steady head on her shoulders.
>>47094687The question becomes where she's actually from and how she ended up on Earth.
>>47094706>>47094652Obviously some aliens fuckin' invaded and they all banded together to whoop some ass.Whether it was body snatchers like Starro or generic aliens like in Avengers, I can't say.
>>47094706Well if we're going for thrill-seeker for the triplets, the Baron and Doc could run into them while exploring some dangerous stuff, saving them from trouble. Perhaps several times in different locations, before finally just teaming up permanently.
>>47094706Be kinda funny if Threesone and Doc were related.>Blue: "You said you know Threesome from before?">Doc: "Yes, she's my niece.">Blue: "And you let her take the name 'threesome' because....?">Doc: "Because her prior suggestion was 'Orgy'. At least this way I can pretend she just means 'a team of three people'."
>>47094687>they'd take the time to be aware of things because they're never in a hurry or rushed because they know there's not really a lot out there that can hurt themMouth feel of food is important.
>>47094666These are the playbooks for Masks
>>47094725I'm thinking she had Superman-ish origin except she was older when she landed on Earth. Since she had an odd color'd skin her adopted human parents sheltered her and were afraid she'd be discriminated against. She put herself out there once or twice and her parents fears were right, no one was too fond of her until she met [/shg/'s super team's name].
>>47094666>>47094747>>47094757And the Basic MovesReminder: These are all Beta so I don't know how they are compare to the finished product which ships in July
>>47094729>along with Plastic Man for an extra fuck you.I don't think most people understand just how bullshit OP Plastic Man is.
>>47094740What if Threesome is Doc's kid. She got her powers through him fucking with science.
>>47094744Is this comic any good?
>>47094755Not to say she's not attractive, mind you.(Give or take the red eyes and lack of build.)
>>47094789Obviously, she's waifu material. Just gotta have Marvel/MoS citizen logic at least initially.
>>47094781Doc's kid, was pretty hyperactive and he's a busy man so she lived with Baron most of the time, having a run of his big estate?And then >>47094737 snuck out on adventures without them knowing (and herself knowing about them)?
>>47094782I enjoy it. My only real concern is that well...Maxima (One of the Heroes, gold skinned lady) is so powerful right now that various villains might as well not exist if she goes all out. So I worry that she's going to degrade a lot of threat.It's the general issue with having one hero vastly more powerful than the others and having that hero be perfectly willing to cheap shot despite that power.However, the majority of the focus isn't on actual fighting but on how the world would react to supers so it's not really a huge issue in the scheme of things.Achilles is amazing. If you pay attention to the stuff that gets said about him, it heavily implies he's saved the world more times than the other heroes despite having no offensive powers. He's just unkillable and has great hair.
>>47094260>"Greetings, I am Brian Baldric Barnett of Brassington">"Jesus, did somebody steal all the other capital letters when you were born?">matter of factly: "Yes."
>>47094816I feel like if that's the case she'd have the secret idenity. Doc is blissfully ignorant because of his extreme focus on adventuring and superscience while the Baron would be able to tell by at least their second encounter.>"Doc you know that's your kid, right?">"What? Nah Triana's at your estate plus she's an only child. Threesome is obviously tripplets">"...You baffle me."
>>47094855>"Yes, at the same time they stole your manners. Oaf."
>>47094855>Dazzling deduction, dear Doctor
>>47094855Wait.What if her actual NAME was Trinity?Trinity Addams or something like that.
>>47093522It's criminal that half the female characters in the DC character books have Attractive, but Dick Grayson doesn't.
>>47094874...This is fine.
>>47094882>Dick 'the manwhore' Grayson doesn't have attractive I feel like this was a plot by Jason or Tim to drag Dick to their level of attractiveness.
>>47094882He should have TWO ranks for fuck's sake.In his Grayson comic he almost literally used the Fascination [Deception] Advantage to distracting a woman into crashing a motorcyle in the middle of a gunfight on a highway.Attractive 2 would totally be appropriate for someone who can do that.
>>47094874>>47094871>>47094855So is Doc's name Doc Savage or is it just Doc?
>>47094882>>47093522Pretty much. It's the difference between 'Superhero' attractive and 'Turns heads even in the hero community' attractive.Which is a real shame that Dick doesn't have it.Now I'm remembering the time I had 3 points left over for a M&M character and 10 mins until game time so I just went 'Fuck it, attractive 3 I guess?'
>>47094107>>Cut Loose!:>>Foot StompWhy does that seem dangerously close to lyrics from footloose?
>>47094900Weaponizes his charm.
>>47094911>'Fuck it, attractive 3 I guess?'what the fuck would THAT be?
>>47094902I wanted Doctor Quest but I'm fine either or.
>>47094911>>47094919In 3e it caps out at 2.Which is a good thing because a +5 circumstantial bonus is kinda pretty ridiculous as it is.
>>47094911>>47094919There is no Attractive 3. It only goes up to Attractive 2.>While superheroes tend to be a fairly good-looking lot, this advantage is generally reserved for characters with particularly impressive looks.
>>47094927There kinda already is a Doctor Quest.
>>47094932>>47094942Yeah, this was 2e where it was just +4/rank, doesn't go above skill cap.>>47094919Dick Greyson attractive is where I imagined it. This sort of stuff >>47094916She talked down a lot of vilians with a warm smile and a willingness to talk about thier issues
>>47094927>>47094945Someone said Dr. Chase earlier.
>>47094945Huh, how did that slip my mind.
>>47094953He's Doctor Chase and his daughter is Trinity Addams, doesn't that make him Chase Addams?That's actually a pretty fucking boss name. Also very English.
>>47094963Works fine.We need also need civilian name for the Psinobi and both names for the powerhous, I think?
>>47094953Doctor Chase seems good to me.
>>47094981Connie-something for Psinobi I think.
>>47094963Does Trinity have any cousins, maybe?
>>47094932>>47094942>>47094952At Attractive 1, you are considered very pretty/handsome and can usually stop someone dead in their tracks if they get a look at you. You're not quite a sex icon, but you may as well be.At Attractive 2, you're practically sculpted from marble. You are a full-on sex icon and can basically weaponize your good looks if you wanted.Starfire is most definitely Attractive 2. As >>47093547 says, she instantly got a job at a modeling agency just by walking in the door. You should only take the Attractive advantage if it's a notably salient point that your character is attractive.
>>47094508Have something quick I put together. By no means final.just going by the skim reads i've done.Any idea on a rough age for each of the characters? I kind of wanna draw everyone in some shape or form.
Marvel and DC a shit, recommend me superpower fiction (comics or otherwise).
>>47095017This a cute.Also I'm now imagining the Doc as just a superheroic Stu Pickles.
>>47094981I'm thinking Conners or Constable.>>47095017I imagine Doc and Baron are late thirties or in their fortiesPsinobi and the Powerhouse are probably early-mid twentiesWhile Triplet is late teens.
>>47095017The Baron doesn't fuss about his age, but he has notable facial hair.Doc Chase is probably early-to-mid 40s.Threesome is a fresh-faced 14-year-old.Blue Cobalt has alien years, but she physically appears in her early-mid 30s.Psinobi is in her early 20s, since she's a grad student.
>>47095037Wearing the Cape.Please Don't Tell My Parents I'm a Supervillain.
>>47095038I wouldn't call Doc Chase a COMPLETE dork. He's alternate Doc Savage, after all. He just has his adorably dorky moments.
>>47095037Kamen Rider W
>>47095061Yeah, I feel like he's only like this when he builds or discovers something new.
>>47095059Heard good things about that one.>>47095056>>47095068I'll add these to the list.
>>47095050Scratch that about Threesome/Trinity. She's in her mid-late teens like >>47095046 says. I think she's soon to enter her senior year in high school.
>>47095050>physically appears in her early-mid 30s.Now I'm imagining ara-ara superMILF
>>47095061>No, no, guys>Guys, check it-- guys, just look>I made this pair of boots that-->DAD. STOP. NO ONE CARES.
>>47095037Misfits.British TV show.Like Heroes but raunchy and they're all losers. Only saw the first couple seasons. A fan favorite actor is replaced in the 3rd then everyone else in the 4th. Powers include lactokinesis, lycanthropy (which amounts to running around naked and yipping like a jack russel), and Embaldment (making people bald).
>>47095089We'll just say early 30s. She's not maximum MILF, but she's at least vaguely mature.
>>47095091>Doc Chase goes on an expedition to Machu Picchu>Finds new artifacts and information>HOLY SHIT>GUYS>HAVE YOU SEEN THIS STUFF>THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING>GUYS>SERIOUSLY>IS THIS COOL OR WHAT
>>47095091>"Amy at least attempt to humor what your father amassed."
>>47095000Connie Kosugi for Psinobi.Named after this fellow;https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sho_Kosugi
>>47095050I feel this is too she-hulky at the moment. Any ideas to differentiate? Bike shorts? Patterning? Moving the zipper down?
>>47095156So we have our required person of color to satisfy SJWs.
>>47095167Slap some pants on that bitch, maybe?
>>47095167Shorts and crop top.
>>47094916Why was his face all swirly?
>>47095191If She-Hulk can rock the onesie with jeans, so can our alien.
>>47095037Worm by wildbow
>>47095208I thought we were supposed to differentiate her from She Hulk.
>>47095202Dick's a secret agent and he has this thing that hides his face. The spiral is just an effect of that.
>>47095212Give her a dick
>>47095228We're not entering you're magical realm
>>47095228We're not giving her a dick.
>>47095210Read it already, waiting for the rewrite to reread. It was pretty good.
>>47095167Maybe some special pattern on her onesie? Swirling streaks of lines that wind all the way up? Straight lines forming a V design from the crotch up to the armpits and to the neck?
>>47095208>>47095175While I do agree that is a rocking look... it still feeds into >>47095212 point.Gave it a try anyways. with a more "plug suit" looking onesie.>>47095191Feels very casual human. Plus I'm thinking thats not too different from Nu52 Starfire's outfit (she just has longer sleeves.>>47095244I could try that out.
>>47094981For our Powerhouse girl, Superhero name: Blue BrawlerAdopted Name: Penelope MarquardtAlien Name: I got nothing.
>>47095300I thought we were doing Blue Cobalt.
>>47095300You know for alien name we could do the spice thing a la Starfire AKA Koryand'rCyanno Za'atarBit of the scientific name for blueberry and a middle eastern spice.
>>47095305I wasn't sure if that's what we were doing or not.
>>47095305Isn't Cobalt blue anyway?
>>47095342THAT'S THE JOKE
>>47095342Nah, pure cobalt is grey.
>>47095342It is used as blue dye in porcelain and glass, but raw cobalt is steel colored.
>>47095358Also Oil painting! I would know.Its also carcinogenic. and I made the mistake of getting actual cobalt blue pigment proper instead of a cobalt blue hue (A simulated version of the color)
>>47095290>>47095017I can't wait to see more of them
>>47094205>that last She-Hulk in jeans
>>47095374I think it is tamer compared to a lot of the other old pigments,. Like say cadmium red, antimony white, manganese violet, they're much more toxic, but still less toxic is still toxic. So Guess who wasn't allowed to share colors, had to wear gloves and wear face mask while painting a naked old dude named merlin and his led zeppelin tattoo? This guy. >>47095383Sort of sketched a close up of the Baron. Can't help but imagine a sort of "Rogue" stripe of white hair.
>>47094963So is Trinity the name we're going for with the duplicator super? So could that mean her duplicating powers come from a freak lab accident courtesy of her dad? seems awkward. great for super storytelling.
>>47093547>>47093522So what would Attractive 3 or 4 be? Or is 2 the limit?
>>47095473Yes and yes
How about we make some nemeses for our troupe of heroes? Feed me d20s!
How do I make a shapeshifter for character without the GM "balancing him out" by making each of his individual forms as weak as possible so that I'm outshines in every regard?
>>470964451)What system?2)Why is your GM such a dickwaffle?
>>470964701) Champions Complete2) My last character used a 6d6 mental power of some kind that basically knocked down any non-mentalist character in one hit. The accidental win button I made on that last character is still fresh in his mind so he's trying to prevent that from happening again in all the wrong ways.
>>47096445Make him mass limited. He can be any human sized creature or even a custom one (such as a better version of a human), wear any person's face, but can't become a giant to lay waste to a city.Forms only give you attributes and bodily qualities (tail for balancing, faster reflexes, etc.) but no skills.Maybe for the first few times you use an unfamiliar form, take a penalty until you're used to it.
>>47096486>1) Champions CompleteWelp, sorry, don't know that system>2) GM paranoiaOkay, to be honest the shapeshifters kinda do run the risk of being played as having a form perfectly suited for every occasion.But if he's overparanoiaing, did you try having a good hard talk about it?And as well, don't you just stat up your forms with the same chargen processes that regular characters use?
>>47096569Yes and no. You do use the same character process for the alternate forms, though the point cost for those forms are significantly lesser than your normal base character. The cost of alternate forms is 1/5 of the highest costing form plus a +5 static cost per 2x extra forms.
>>47093356Sup /tg/ So i am in a Mutants and Masterminds game, concept is 'captain America becomes a werewolf' but i am not happy with how everything is turning out. It is a PL 10 game and i just sort of feel lack luster, how would you guy's build it?
>>47094241Princess is the super-bruiser in M&M 3e's iconic team, isn't she?I think they had a few, actually.
>>47097024What do you feel is missing? Meeting your caps and taking some combat advantages, movement powers, and maybe enhanced senses should all be pretty easy at PL 10. Especially if you're using an alternate form.
>>47097090I don't know, i am probably going to dumb down my stats some since that is where a majority of my points went. I just found the stat chart and i am above and beyond human best in almost all of them. Given his wolf form is his primary for i was just going to grab morph to represent the shifting, and then have everything else just be innate nature.
Anybody in here want to join an M&M 3rd edition game? We're looking for players, though we'll be swapping GMs every story arc/TPK/when the burnout kicks in, so be prepared for that. Contact tommy.middleton8 on Skype.
Continuing the Project Superpowers and Freedom Force talk. Someone actually made a Project Superpowers Module for the Sequel of Freedom Force. Give it a go if you like (I heavily recommend getting the GOG or Pirated Disc Version of the game because one of the mod tools requires the game to be in a specific data path)If the MF Link is dead, I'll contact the creator since I happen to also know him (No I'm not him)https://bentongrey.wordpress.com/tag/project-superpowers/
>>47097406granted it's unfinished (And abandoned since the creator is now focusing on a Marvel Adventures Module, he also made a Ghostbusters, DC, and Ninja Turtles Module)
What are your favorite not Marvel and DC superhero settings ? I´m a fan of Wildstorm myself (I know,technically its DC)
>>47097478I don't know all that many, but I like Worm. Unlike what I've seen from Marvel and DC, it doesn't make me think "this is absolutely stupid" nearly as often. It still happens, but the difference is massive.
>>47097580Man, at least tell us your own favorite non-Marvel-or-DC supers setting.
>>47097024What do you want to be? Speedy killy? Tanky? Hell maybe sneaky?What's the rest of the party like? Check out Totem archetype and Werewolf under Supernatural archetype in the GM kit for ideas.>>47097133Yeah, if you go superhuman on all abilities you're going to run out fast.
It might not technically fit, but my favorite superhero setting is probably the Greek Pantheon, and anything with it. You know that's the kind of retarded shenanigans superheroes would actually get up to with their powers.
>>47097133Morph/Metamorph is probably not actually the right power.In M&M3, the easiest thing to do is just group all the wolf form powers together and deduct a flat -1 for needing a move action to change into your alternate form. (If the limitations on wolfing out are more serious, you could even hit all the wolf powers with something like Limited to Full Moons. Saves a lot of points... but you'd be limited to full moons)My own quick 'n dirty write-up for a werewolf would look something like this [Power Point costs are listed in square brackets]#Abilities# Str 3 Sta 3 Agl 3 Dex 2 Fgt 5 Int 2 Awr 2 Pre 2 #Skills# Acrobatics 6 Athletics 6 Insight 4 Perception 6 Ranged Combat 4 Stealth 4 Vehicles 4 #Advantages# Accurate AttackAgile FeintDefensive Roll 2Evasion 2Improvised WeaponUncanny Dodge#Powers#Wolf Mode (Alternate Form: Move Action)  Enhanced Attributes (Strength 4, Stamina 5, Agility 3, Awareness 3)  Enhanced Advantages (Close Attack 5, All-Out Attack, Fast Grab, Improved Critical: Unarmed 1, Improved Grab, Improved Hold, Move-by-Action, Power Attack, Takedown)  Enhanced Defenses (Dodge 4, Parry 5, Fortitude 2, Will 5)  Wolf Skin (Regeneration 5, Feature: Fur)  Senses (Accurate Smell, Infravision, Tracking: Smell 2, Ultra-Hearing)  Leaping 4 (AP: Super Speed 4)  Claws (Strength-based Damage 3) This is honestly pretty lazy. I basically just bought appropriate-looking attributes for the human form, loaded up on combat advantages, added enhanced stuff to meet the caps in wolf form, and then threw in senses, regeneration, and movement powers.I hardly even touch power modifiers, and there're probably a bunch of ways to shave points or optimize it too (If your GM is okay with punches stacking with damage auras, add a Wolf Bite (Strength-based Damage 1. Grab-based) power for a whole 1 PP)
>>47097909>Morph/Metamorph is probably not actually the right power.Morph could be cool for a guy who is technique and style martial artist in human form and shifts into a tanky and brawly werewolf.
>>47098022That is actually true. You could even take stuff like Leadeship and Equipment for the Captain America side and dump it all for jacked stats for the Werewolf side.Metamorph is basically an Alternate Effect for your entire character sheet, which is absurdly good to the point of being broken.(And Metamorph + Duplicate is just dumb. If your GM doesn't veto that they deserve whatever happens.)
>>47094414>A: He's reverse-gender Psylocke andSo he's a British supermodel with a cosmic-class superhero sister who got his body switched with a ninja and got all of his ninja training that way?
>>47095037The Wearing the Cape series, mentioned by >>47095056, is good. As is BPRD. WtC series can be a little slow at times, but it's a fairly low-level hero story (the main character's a flying brick, but the author insists on realistic physics, so she makes a big deal about how she'd bones in her body if she tried to just slam through a tank or something like a missile.)Rather than Kamen Rider W, I'd suggest reading Kamen Rider SPIRITS. The writing is better and it has less obnoxious 'comedy' moments. Unfortunately, it's not fully translated. Kamen Rider Kuuga's also a good watch, but a tad dated and there's complaints about it being slow at times.Soon I Will Be Invincible is probably my favorite superhero book. Split between a Silver Age Villain, Doctor Impossible, the smartest man in the world, and a Modern Age Hero, Fatale, an amnesiac combat cyborg, it's just overall fantastic. There's no "BUT THAT WOULDN'T WORK IN THE REAL WORLD", no Silver Age mockery (some nostalgia, perhaps), and nothing that demeans modern stories the way writers like Alan Moore tend to.Ex-Heroes/Patriots/Whatever is... Not to my tastes. It's basically The Walking Dead with superheroes. If you're interested in zombie stories, give it a read. I can't care about them anymore. Even if you do like them, the writing's pretty basic.Confessions of a D-List Supervillain and its prequel... Eh. If you liked Max Landis' Shocker fanfic (I still say Transistor was better), you'll like it. They basically follow the same story arc.WildCards is George R. R. Martin with a bunch of other people. You've probably already read it.If you haven't read Buseik's Astro City, that's a fucking crime that you need to correct. I can't give a plot synopsis since each issue/story arc is a love letter to a different character archetype/plot line.Moore's Top Ten is entertaining. Police procedural in a city of superheroes.Bendis' Powers is... It's Bendis. If you can stand his writing, it's a nice read.
>>47098613>Soon I Will Be Invincible is probably my favorite superhero book. Split between a Silver Age Villain, Doctor Impossible, the smartest man in the world, and a Modern Age Hero, Fatale, an amnesiac combat cyborg, it's just overall fantastic. There's no "BUT THAT WOULDN'T WORK IN THE REAL WORLD", no Silver Age mockery (some nostalgia, perhaps), and nothing that demeans modern stories the way writers like Alan Moore tend to.This is one of my favorite books ever.Rather then deconstruct superheroes it sort of goes into the hows and whys of superhero archetypes, and still has next to every single character more or less live up to cheesy Silver Age story shit.He even does some really subtle things that I didn't get at first, like how the Wolverine of the team (a humanoid tiger-person) is routinely considered by other characters as extremely dangerous and yet is ALWAYS in every fight scene in the book the very first character to go down, quietly mimicking Wolverine's tendency to get beat up early on in most fights.
>>47098613Continuing...My Hero Academia is a new anime, but the manga's been running for a year. A Japanese take on American-style superheroes. Basically Hogwarts crossed with capes. It's actually fantastic, but the main character cries too much for some people. (he gets better.) There's a lot of discussion over what makes heroes heroes. Why they stand out.Tiger & Bunny is another anime. Basically, what if heroes were all like Booster Gold? It's actually pretty good. It's got a movie that I have yet to watch.Squadron Supreme is Marvel, but it's also a classic. What if the world went to shit and the Justice League decided that the best way to fix things would be to take it over?DC, but The Shadow Strikes! is fantastic. Don't get their other Shadow series, it's legendarily awful.Now Comics! had a pretty good Green Hornet series, but it's VERY 80s. Acts as if both the radio series and the '66 television series were canon, turning the Hornet into a legacy hero.Alan Moore's Supreme. Basically, Moore took a Rob Liefeld Superman knockoff and wrote a massive, sprawling love letter to the Silver Age. If you ever wanted to know how he would have written All Star Superman, that's it.The Marvel Adventures line. Yes, yes, I know, Marvel. But this was aimed at a younger audience and swings between being absolutely hilarious, a great action comic, and actual character drama (well, for Spider-Man, at least.) These are the comics that Marvel should be printing today.Warren Ellis' Planetary. There are secrets in this world. This is the tale of the people who uncover those secrets.I'm going to repeat. Astro City.Alan Moore had his own comics label for a while, America's Best Comics. Things like Tom Strong and the like. I seem to remember all of them being pretty good, but they were largely built off of pulp character archetypes. If you don't like pulp fiction, I'd still suggest giving it a try, but it's understandable if you don't.>>47098833Isn't it fantastic?
>>47095167>>47095290Scrap the unitard look. Go for a full body stocking. Maybe with an ab window, or a window on her back to show off them muscles. Give her a decent belt. Some pouches, but not the full Liefeld. Stuff she'd need for the others, like bandages and the like. Maybe a tiara of some kind, thick and metal.Nothing that looks like armor because she doesn't need it.Or maybe go for an alternate route. Put Thor-style disks on her costume, each one filled with medicine or bandages or food. Because she's the powerhouse, she carries most of the gear that the others won't need directly on-hand, so it's tucked away. Like Iron Man's shoulder arches on his classic red and gold had gadgets, you can slap on some Thor disks for bandages, and one of Nightwing's costumes had all of his wingdings/comm gear/nightvision stuff/grapple hooks stashed into his bracers.
>>47098613>I still say Transistor was betterWas that the one with the Zombies and a final fight against Dormammu?
>>47098883Tom Strong is great, I fully recommend it.Also, despite how some feel about it One Punch is still a really good take on the genre as well.
>>47099068>One PunchDoes the gimmick not get old? How long is it, anyway?
>>47099122The gimmick doesn't get old because the main character doesn't get all the screen time.
Okay, /tg/. Let's settle it here and now, who's the superior teenage team and why? Also what system would be best to play a good balance of interpersonal drama and capeshit.
>>47099247>Also what system would be best to play a good balance of interpersonal drama and capeshit.MHR has drraama tied into XP gain via Milestones.Aside from that: just friggin roleplay it nigga.
In a slightly related thread we randomly generated a "justice league" and it's villains. Feel free to take the the fluff and use it as you feel>>JUSTICE LEAGUE>FOUNDING MEMBERTera, a telepathic dragon made of solidified sand. He has the ability to manipulate light and weather.>SECOND IN COMMANDBasic Bitch, whose emotion and manipulation powers are so diverse and great she can even control plants. She can also absorb UV radiation to regain health: gotta hit that GTL.>THE TANKAverage Joe can withstand an ungodly amount of damage, and levitate by ignoring the laws of gravity. Gained his powers by accidentally swallowing a radioactive Cracker Jack prize as a boy.>THE BEAUTYDespite her name and stone-like skin, the winged heroine Gargoyle is quite attractive. She is able to emit a glittering mist that grants the ability to regenerate for a limited amount of time.>THE BEASTFrankenstein is a super-genius inventor, whose homemade cybernetics allow him to animate dead bodies and create base elements out of thin air. To stave off undeath-related insanity, his supertronic brain-chip gives him a superhuman iron will.
>>47099359>>VILLAINS & UNAFFILIATED CHARACTERS>THE NEMESIS Umbra is a undead dragon skeleton whose soul has somehow reattached itself to his body due to Frankenstein's experiments. He can create fields of "invisibility" through the use of clever illusions, simulating a moving image of the surroundings. He can shrink its body to the size of an ant, while retaining proportional strength, like a skeletal Ant Man. Additionally, Umbra can resist emotion attacks with ease, likely due to the fact that he's a skeleton. Finally, Umbra can cause any desired material within a one block radius to collect at its point of choosing, such as dirt, gold, or even blood: fortunately, it takes time. In addition to the above, he can mold the shape of solid matter. This power can be used from anything to creating statues, to animating minions (by constantly reshaping the material) to creating all manner of devices (provided enough time and focus can be had to make the parts). Most insidiously, this power can be used on living creatures, though their internal organs will always take a shape that allows them to live. The Justice League was assembled by Tera and Frankenstein to combat him.>THE MONSTROSITYCombination-Abomination is another creation of Frankenstien gone wrong. It is some sort of horrible amalgam of android, normal human, robot, ghost, and has horse legs, who at some point received powers via mutation. Its wide variety of powers include; Geoforce, Regeneration, Fire Generation, Animal Communication, Body Resistance, Mechanical Creation, and Missile Creation. Combo was originally created to combat Umbra. However, it decided it wanted to do its own thing. Sometimes it helps the heroes, sometimes it blows up an ice cream parlor for no reason. It isn't evil: its thought processes are just too alien and chaotic to understand even its own motives.
>>47099375>THE PROTECTORMother Nature is an intelligent plant that only cares about maintaining the stability of Nature. So she jump in some villain fights because it'll come back to bite the forest in the ass but she will happily fuck with big companies because they're destroying it's life source. She protects the natural world zealously through the use of her UV absorption, and molecular conversion; the ability to convert any element or compound into any number of elements and compounds simultaneously, so long as it retains the same mass; volume is liable to change as a result. This power can be used on living things as well, although it can be resisted by the particularly tough or strong willed.
>>47097478Honestly? I've been a fan of the Champions setting for years....But never actually played a game in the HERO system. No one ever seems interested
>>47099042Polarity. Transistor was the sequel, my bad.And, yeah, that was the one with Dormammu. I generally like it because Herman doesn't turn into a fucking genius on the level of Tony Stark and he doesn't end up curing the Rhino when no other genius could, fucking the Black Cat, and living on an island in a pocket dimension, living off of the riches of his inventions for the rest of his life.
>>47099122>>47099068I like One Punch Man, but the recent releases have been irritating to me. Like, it seems like the guy who's redrawing the series from the webcomic keeps going back to earlier chapters and adding new stuff and it's just confusing as fuck.It's funny, but the constant delays are killing my love for the series. It bugs me when I've got to wait a month for another six pages that may or may not get redrawn in another six months.
>>47099247I felt that early Team was good. Not a lot of forced drama like Young Avengers had.After the timeskip... eh.Also, Masks, mentioned earlier in this thread, actually has interpersonal drama as a game mechanic. For example, Danger has a direct effect on your combat ability. If people react to like you're a monster, you might feel more Dangerous, meaning you do more damage.
>>47099668I liked the drama in the first few issues of Young Avengers because while it certainly WAS teenage drama, it was also relevant to their superheroic antics. Hawkeyed finding strength in her rape to become a powerless badass was ridiculously good even if rape tends to be a bit of a cliche (but I've never really seen it as an origin story for a superhero.)Same for Wiccan and Speed. Hulkling's backstory / drama, I felt was a bit forced with "Oh, my best friend made me abuse my powers" because I feel like it was just stupid. But I did like Hulkling's arc in the second "season"; with him doubting his love for Wiccan and unsure if it wasn't all Wiccan's fault.Other than that, drama was bland and clearly written by adults who tried to write what they thought teens would like / relate to. Of course Hawkweye is suddenly vain and flirty, of course Patriot, the token black kid gets hooked up on drugs, of course the daughter of a hero struggles to live up to his image.Young Justice was better in hero aspect but barely had any decent drama, but I don't think that was necessarily a drawback. I'd prefer no drama over poorly written drama.Anyway, Masks? What's that? Is there a pdf?
>>47099776It's going to be printed in July. Beta samples >>47094747, >>47094757, and >>47094763(completed) Kickstarter https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1277034820/masks-a-new-generation/descriptionOfficial website http://www.magpiegames.com/masks/Example of character interaction mechanics http://www.magpiegames.com/masks/long-example/
>>47099879>>47099776And I've done a shitty job of describing.Okay, so, Masks is, like. You play young heroes still getting a handle on things. Aimed at the Young Justice/Teen Titans/Young Avengers/New Warriors/New Mutants crowd. Uses a modified Powered by the Apocalypse engine to run things.The beta has ten Playbooks, different Heroic archetypes. The final game will have about 22 or so, IIRC. Each playbook is essentially a template for you to use and build your character around.There are five Labels, Freak, Danger, Savior, Mundane, and Superior, that you roll with two dice to decide the success of your actions. Interacting with other people can change your character's Labels.
>>47099994Basically, whenever you take an action, you roll 2d6 and add the score from your appropriate Label. On a 10 or more, you've succeeded perfectly. On a 7-9, you succeeded, but might have hit a snag. On a 6 or less, you've fucked up chum.
>>47099994Shit. So it's Teen Titans / Young Avengers meet Monsterhearts, from what I'm reading. Looks pretty sweet, I'm sure my friends will like it. Thanks anon!
>>47100032Pledging time is over, but I can link you to their backerkit. You should be able to put up some pre-orders there. Interested?
>>47100051I found it n the kickstarter page, so no need to link it. My issue is that they only offer physical copies and I've no interests in those (not to mention that since I don't live in the US, I'm not even sure if they'll ship over here.)
>>47100092Oof. Sorry about that..pdfs will no doubt be readily available later
>>47093635>That female officer and the girl comparing her tits
>>47095037https://parahumans.wordpress.com/category/stories-arcs-1-10/arc-1-gestation/1-01/Worm, by wildbowFavorite piece of superpower fiction I have ever read, and I've read a lot.
>>47099359Looking at this makes me think who'd be leader and second in command for the one we generated in this thread.I'm thinking Blue Cobalt leads and Baron is second command while the public assumes Doc Chase is the one actually running the show.
>>47099122The main character isn't ACTUALLY the main character basically, and it's not a show about how badass he is.It is 100% a comedy series, just one with really good action scenes that the hero has nothing to do with and never gets to participate in.
>>47095552In 3e, it only goes up to Attractive 2.
I have three teams currently running around. The West coast team, The Titanic Trio is primarily teenagers, but they are probably the most powerful:Power Girl, my character, she's one of the strongest and toughest people on the planet, and unlike a lot of bricks, she has a very high movement speed, not fast enough to break the sound barrier because trying to go any faster shatters whatever she's leaping off of, because she can't fly. Yet.Kid Metropolis: a City Elemental who operates a lot like a 14 year old Jack Hawksmoore, who isn't fucked up.Stellar: a super genius cosmic energy blaster.They have a bunch of allies and they make use of the old Statesmen (a team with one hero from every state, now defunct due to repeated incidents) base in Arcadia, Washington State.In the Midwest we have the Crusaders, which is a huge team, but the player characters are Prime who's another super genius, but he's a brick, and Spartan a powered armor blaster from an alternate 2012.On the east coast there's the Defenders Arclite a combat cyborg (brick) from yet another alternate 2015, Silver who's a brain wizard (technically an omnicapable psychic, but because that includes conjuring things out of thin-fucking-air, Arclite calls him a brain wizard), and The Huntsman a not!Batman. All of this team is ridiculously intelligent, though Silver is the least intelligent.
>>47097909Thanks for the help, i will have to take that into consideration
>>47102476Not bad. Good design aesthetic.
>>47097478I really enjoyed the setting from The Boys. The basic gist was that super powers don't come with super morality, all the power and fame drives the majority of supes to act more like Britany Spears then Captain America. >>47099558Hero system is the best system. Run everything from Hard SciFi to High fantasy. The universe itself is sort of generic though.
>>47102631>The basic gist was that super powers don't come with super morality, all the power and fame drives the majority of supes to act more like Britany Spears then Captain America.That's also a theme in Confessions of a D-List Supervillain if you want some more.
>>47102476I like it.
>>47102631Superpowers have never come with super morality, that's literally an extension of the fact that the first superheroes in Marvel and DC were basically Captain America and Superman respectively. The last full paragraph Cap says here basically explains it. In The Boys, the local equivalent heroes are all basically bags of blood who can be torn apart in ways that is literally impossible for normal humans in the real world to be torn apart, given the objects involved, so they're all brutally torn apart, because it's edgy.
>>47102667Maybe. The Boys was a lot darker then I managed to get acrossNot!Superman's rape baby rips its way out of it's mothers body using super strength and laser eyes before getting bludgeoned to death by lamp wielded by the horrified husband of the rape victim.
>>47102771>Superpowers have never come with super moralityThey did in the 4 color days.
>>47102779Well that just seems like it dove into the manufacturing line for Gilettes.
>>47102820No, because otherwise you wouldn't have super powered villains and there were a lot of super powered villains in the day. There was also groups of people with powers, but who just wanted to get by. Hell, the strongest man in one of them doesn't even give a shit, he wants no part and he's 4-color-era. I think he's Marvel.
>>47102881>and there were a lot of super powered villains in the day.It took a long time for any Super Powered villians to show up actually. Superman fought Frozen Dinosaurs, Giant Robots, and mad scientists for a long time before any supervillians sprung up.
>>47102845That's pretty much the highlight of edge. And it's pretty enjoyable for it's over the top portrayals.
>>47102953Anyone capable of cobbling together a giant robot powerful enough to not be instantly destroyed by Superman has a super power.
>>47093356There are whores dressed more than her. Seriously.
>>47103051It's okay. She's an alien.
>>47102953>>47102993Also, Ultra Humanite, was the first Supervillain, introduced in 1939. Superman was created in 1938. So, yeah, for a year super powers came with super morality.
>>47102476I think the arms could be slimmed down a bit but I like it
>>47095473>>47095406>>47095017Seeing these makes me wish Doc and Baron were legitimate comic book characters
>>47103101To true. My mistake. I was basing that statement on the first Superman Cartoons. Which, iirc, didn't have a supervillian show up til the mid 40s.
>>47103071There are ALIEN WHORES dressed more than her!
>>47102771I read through the main Civil War books a while ago and thought they were remarkably lacking in actual argument. They just declared their stances and started punching each other. Was all this good stuff in the tie in books or something?
>>47103248Civil War was a mess
>>47103248We Don't Need Your Civil War by Mightygodking. It's a fan edit, and it is hilarious.
>>47103228Here's the thing though: The Boys is written by a sociopath, who thinks the rest of the world is every bit as vile as he is, it's just hidden under a thin layer of courtesy and fear. It's a cry for help, not something to be lauded. I wouldn't say this if he wasn't telling the same story over and over again, using slightly different scenarios every time.It has a fundamental failure to understand humans. -IF- we were actually as horrible as portrayed in those comics, we'd never be able to work together long enough to build individual cities with literally millions of people in them. It wouldn't take years of untreated psychological trauma to cause someone to become a murderer, and we damn sure wouldn't view it as a 'what the fuck happened here' thing.
So what's your guys thought progress on coming up with villains ?
>>47093356Any interesting low level encounters for Supes? I'm running a low powered Dark Champions campaign for some friends, and I'm hitting a wall trying to think of short/one off ideas.
>>47099247I absolutely adored young justice on netflix.I'm not sure what else i should watch now, or what else is out there.
>>47103241It's okay. She's an alien princess.
>>47103491Princess of WHORES!
>>47103504It's not whorish if literally everyone does it, anon.
>>47103450I disagree. It's more of a power corrupts sort of thing. The superheros in the setting aren't really any different then modern pop idols. It's just when they throw a tantrum over red M&Ms in their green M&M bowl they level buildings. It's even less about how bad the heroes are so much as how society is willing to overlook the wrongs of the famous, so they can hold on to their idols. It might be a little exaggerated, but it's a comic book. It's no more over the top then anything Marvel or DC puts out.
>>47103527WHORES AND MANWHORES!
>>47103527That one woman is way overdressed.
>>47103570>>47103570Well, yeah, anon. You sleep in nighties, but then you get up and put on your dayclothes.
>>47103570She's a nun.
>>47103450>The Boys is written by a sociopath, who thinks the rest of the world is every bit as vile as he is, it's just hidden under a thin layer of courtesy and fear.Huh
>>47103504Don't forget that Starfire's race is empowered by their emotions and can literally weaponize their feelings.
>>47103594kek>>47103598What does weaponized shame look like?
>>47103553No, because this guy wrote Crossed and Bomb Queen. Power doesn't really corrupt per say, it's that people lie to get into position, and then other corruptive forces come in and they do the corruption thing. It's a serious misunderstanding of what happens when a person has power, especially in modern situations, when a person has power, but they're dealing with other powerful people, and if they want to get anything done, without losing any of their power, they have to make compromises, and then they become a corruptive element themselves, because they literally cannot be overt.Which there are less edgy ways of doing this. Empowered discusses this without going into 'rape baby bursting from it's mother's womb, before being beaten to death by the upset husband' territory.Empowered is a little exaggerated, this is like saying 'there was a loud noise' at Tsar Bomba's detonation or that Bomb Queen is 'a little fucked up'.
>>47103640Probably some sort of flaming projectile that inflicts harm on the user
>>47103553Most of his compatriots find Ennis hugely annoying and distasteful as a person actually, and his stories about people WITHOUT powers still are full of this shit.The guy is a deeply misanthroptuc Generation X Edgelord as part of his actual real-life personality.
>>47103685>No, because this guy wrote Crossed and Bomb Queen.Didn't read those, so I couldn't comment. >>47103685>Power doesn't really corrupt per say, it's that people lie to get into position, and then other corruptive forces come in and they do the corruption thing. It's a serious misunderstanding of what happens when a person has power, especially in modern situations, when a person has power, but they're dealing with other powerful people, and if they want to get anything done, without losing any of their power, they have to make compromises, and then they become a corruptive element themselves, because they literally cannot be overt.I'd disagree. It has less to do with making compromises, and more to do with have a growing detachment from the "little guy".
>>47102476I like the design. Feel she could be a little beefier, though, especially the upper torso; those arms look kinda out of place.
>>47103452Figure out their goal. That's the most important part. Not even a concrete one, just decide if they do the things they do for a cause, or because they are crazy.Don't match the powers to said goal (unless the goal stems from their origin story). Feel free to give villains "good" powers and vice versa.
>>47095172Better, it's a female of color. And, she's one of the physical asskickers, so they can't complain about "weak female cheesecake". Sales will tank in the first year and the character, and comic as a whole, will die because the people who actually read comics want personalities, not political agendas
>>47104018>if they do the things they do for a cause, or because they are crazy.There are also varying degrees of crazy, ranging from robbing banks for money because of selfishness and a lack of morals, to full on genocidal tendencies, and everything between.
>>47103972Don't. They aren't good.Growing detachment from the little guy doesn't become an issue with superheroics, if the superhero in question doesn't do it to themselves. Superman makes a point of living and working among the little guys. Thor lives on Midgard among humans for a reason, politicians forget this, because they isolate themselves in their big fancy houses with all their peers.
>>47104035Are we talking about Blue Cobalt or PSInobi?
>>47103924 I get a lot of inspiration from other media, and often times use that too work backward. >I wanted to Create a SuperVillianous named "Lump"I usually think about how their powers work, and generally try and fit a personality that compliments it.>Lump transforms from a normal angsty 20 something woman into a Super Strong Monstrosity covered in cancerous looking lumps. >The "Lump" form is phsyical manifestation of the tough facade she puts up to protect herself from harm. Then I try and figure out where they fit in the setting. >Lump has fallen for Anarchist, another super powered social misfit>Lump is now part of a love triangle with Fever, fighting for Anarchist's affection>The trio forms a slightly dyfuntional, but effective super villain team.
>>47103640>What does weaponized shame look like?Her culture doesn't have a nudity taboo. So she doesn't experience any shame over how she dresses. She probably only covers up her crotch and nipples because her human friends insist that's the minimum necessary.
>>47104355Sounds more then a bit Magical Realm.
>>47104409It's never shown to be an idealized thing, the race is generally considered to be more than a little barbaric on the galactic scale.
>>47104409Only because of how she looks. There are plenty of aliens races in fiction that don't wear clothing at all without raising any eyebrows.
>>47104409Fuck you. If anything is magical realm in the DC universe, it's the Star Sapphires.
>>47104478>Sexy and BarbaricDefinitely Magic Realm.
>>47104528She was a waifu before any little anime-watching turd ever thought up that butchered English term over here.Yes, she was BY DESIGN someone's magical realm.Ironically the creator's waifu who was actually dating his self-insert was a completely different character.
>>47103118>>47103976Yeah I guess I should do a redraw now that I got the design down at least. I agree on the arms being a little ... out of place/too beefy. a rework shall be done.
>>47103450The Boys was a commentary on the comics industry, ennis isn't a sociopath you nonce
>>47105972Go to sleep Garth
>>47105972*military-industrial complex*I am literally only saying he's a sociopath because he keeps using gore as his primary medium of saying 'this is bad, m'kay', because let's be honest here: there are better ways of saying 'this is bad, m'kay' than making all the characters bags of blood, your bitching has to be at least somewhat palatable.