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>>46645642
>Good News!
Given the hype and some free time coming up I may be able to run a quest off this soon every Sunday.

>Bad News
This won't be until the 25th at the earliest and if I lose my free Sundays threads will be intermittent at best.

Now, onwards with the finalisation of our Riverlands House full of Riverland Babes.

>To Do List
(1) Decide who we would play as.
-The aging Lord Gareth Gauthier (he's had six kids by now, he's definitely not young)
-The up-and coming Heir Rotrick Gauthier, who is slowly taking over more and more responsibilities as his father sinks into a comfy semi-retirement.
-The eldest daughter Genna Gauthier, who actually manages the place while her father and brother do tournaments, hunting and other 'boy stuff'.

(2) The name of our Hall.
(3) The name of our Town. Anything other than "Gauthier Town" or "Riverplace" please.
(4) The name of the Veteran Personal Gaurd. These are the distant-relatives that will serve as our closest fighting companions if/when shit hits the fan. They are armoured knights all (or close enough) and sworn to defend the honour of House Gauthier and it's Ladies.
(5) Finish up our Bannerhouse.

Our Bannerhouse has a few things that need finalising as well. It needs both a name and words if it is a minor house, and neither if it is a mere landed Gauthier Knight. Names of the Hall, specific people and such need not necessarily be fleshed out unless you feel like it.

>Defence (0 remaining, transferred 2 influence for 1 defence)
-Hall

>Influence (5 remaining)
-Firstborn son
Spend the last 5 influence into a Bastard or transfer it into 3 Power?

>Lands (0 remaining)
-Wetlands, Hamlet, Road, Lake

>Law 16

>Population 19

>Power (0 remaining)
-Veteran Infantry
-Green Criminals
OR
-Trained Infantry
-Green Archers

>Wealth (15 left)
-Townhouse in Gauthier lands (Current Mad Lord neglects his own lands and prefers to spend it here OR his son stays here to keep his head down when his dad is acting particularly crazy)
-Fishery [+1 House Fortune]
-Road Tolls [+1 Law Gain, +1 Wealth Gain]

For the Bannerhouse
(1) Is the Lord the head of a very minor house or a Gauthier Landed-knight of middling success?
(2) If it is a House in its own right, what is the name of the House and what are its words? (House was founded as the result of a victory in the Blackfyre Rebellion).
(3) Do we spend the 15 wealth on other holdings or transfer it into 15 power and spend it on military might? (Reminder, this house swears its allegiance to you)

hello

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>>46645796
Yo.

>>46645836
line damn shit, i will be there but very slow

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>>46645846
No worries mate, take your time.

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A picture of our picturesque Hall. Warm, quiet and comfy.

>>46645694
>>46645694
(1) Decide who we would play as.
-The heir, by playing power struggle with his father and his elder sister
--can we get the bastard Elmo River who is champion of women?

(2) The name of our Hall.
-Maiden Hall as from Maidenpool
-Knightfall Hall
-

(3) The name of our Town
-Suzanna's Town, after the heroine......
-Wooling Town, after wools and woo
-Layback or Lyack (slurr) Town
-Courtly Town
or simply Whore/Bitch/Sister Town

(4) The name of the Veteran Personal Gaurd
- The (insert number like Hundred) Gauntlet
- The Mitten Men
- The Black/Steel Thumb

>>46645979
add-on/rewrite

>Susanna instead of Suzanna
>The (insert number times 2) Gauntlet, as being a pair

>>46645760
1) Mad Landed-knight demoted for doing something mad and is now mad over it (ie we did not when he get mad, so being real mad
-if possible, semi-retired old grizzly man rose from common stock to men-at-arm and.....

2) which rebellion, there are like 5

>Influence (5 remaining)
bastard

>Power
-Veteran Infantry
-Green Criminals

3)spent the wealth
needs to ask, we small town?

>>46645979
All good suggestions.

Playing the Bastard is a possibility, but we wouldn't have a say in running the House or any major decisions is all.

And the Veteran Personal Guard is generally 20 or so men as opposed to 100 Infantry.

>>46646083
>small town
Not for the Bannerhouse, that's just a hamlet.

Its not River its RiverS when the bastard is from riverland family ffs

I say we play as heir and the 5 points go for power

>>46646083
>>46646651
>which rebellion, there are like 5
...The Blackfyre Rebellion, anon. Like it says.

One vote for more power and one vote for more bastard.

1 = Power
2 = Bastard

Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>46646728
>>46646680

2 vague votes for playing the up-and-coming heir.

>>46646728
>>46646522
>>46646467
same anon here.

Maybe make the Bastard present the quest? like ally or enemy?

The Forty Gauntlets?

There are five Blackfyre Rebellion though

>>46646522
so for the 15 wealth for bannerhouse
>Dog kennels: mad bitch 10
>Timber: because had to make use of low population 5

left 0

Dont abandon me, Maester.

>>46645642
Getting a kick out of this. Gauthier is my actual name.

>>46648159
Hello. Is the surname carry any literal meaning?

>>46648290
I think it's something like "woodsman". Comes from the same root word as Walter.

>>46645642
Fuck yeah! Thanks for giving this a run Checwyn! Was great fun making the house.

>>46646467
Personal Guard is 50 men just so you know

>>46646728
Not sure if you're still counting votes but I'd vote for the heir over a bastard. I'd like to be properly involved in the House.

Hey Checwyn
does elmo get to be in your story?

>>46648554
the power vs bastard vote in on the bannerhouse which he is getting a bastard or exchange the influences into power

>>46648613
Oh I must have missed that

/archiverat/ in here?

anything we can have fun from it ?

>>46645642
Shit, can't believe I missed the original house creation thread.

At least y'all came up with a good House concept.

Don't let the thread die,

Threads not quite dead yet. We've answered a few of these points, and general indications for the names of a few items. (Seems people wish to play the heir and have a bastard in the Banner house? )
>>46645694
>>46645760

As there was little to no indication of the wealth being spent on the banner house, and the fact there are already a few wealth items there, I'm going to rule it that that 15 Wealth is now transfered into 15 additional Power. This banner house is essential your muscle, so a focus on power makes sense. Even if the current lord is pretty kooky.

> You have 15 Power for the banner house spend that stuff
>>46645836

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>>46652127
And yes, this is me from my phone.

Maester sama, quest for elmo creating his own house pls

>>46652165
Not really my cup of tea. I'm more than okay with someone else running Elmo chivalrous adventures on the side, but I'm more interested in a quest that involves managing the house and taking an active role in the running of it.

>>46652229
It would be interesting to play as the female heir instead. Also does Arlen Rivers command the Gauthier Guard?

>>46645979
Quite liked the name Shield of Gauthier or Shield of Maiden Hall

>>46645760
-Trained Infantry
-Green Archers

>>46652127
Veteran Archers
Trained Infantry

Total:

1x Veteran Archers
1x Green Archers
2x Trained Infantry

400 total men.

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In an effort to get some conclusion on this I'm putting what I can to a snap vote.

House Gautier
>(1) Play as:
A) The Aging Lord
B) The Up-and-coming Heir
C) The wily Daughter (naturally a total babe)
A quest focused on Elmo Rivers is of course an option, just not run by me.

>(2) Hall name:
A) Maiden Hall
B) Knightfall Hall
C) Softsong Hearth
D) Garhall

> (3) Personal Guard (50 men) name
A) The Hundred Gauntlets
B) The Mitten Men
C) The Steel Thumb
D) Shields of Gauthier
E) The Gauthier Brotherhood
F) Gauthier Highguard

>(4) Town name:
A) Susanna Town / Susannaton
B) Lyack Town / Lyackton
C) Wool Town / Woolington

> (5) Banner house status:
A) Minor House (needs name and words)
B) Landed Knight (Gauthier relative) "van Gauthier"

>(6) Banner house 15 power:
Spend this, the banner house here is essentially your muscle and this is the most material way they will contribute to your cause.

>>46658928
>1 B
>2 A
>3 D
>4 C
>5 A
>6 Veteran Archers
Trained Infantry

>>46658928
>1 A
>2 C
>3 F
>4 B
>5 A

>6
Trained Infantry
Trained Archer

>>46658928
>1 B
>2 A
>3 A
>4 C
>5 A
>6 Veteran Archers and Trained Infantry

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Hah! Hah! Your sister's hands were soft on my cock, last I was in whatever you call that town your Hold is near!

>>46659350
>>46659332
>>46659141

> Player Role
We will be playing as the young heir apparent, Rotrik Gauthier. As his father's age becomes increasingly apparent, Rotrik has been entrusted with the running of most matters concerning the House. His father has the final say in any major decisions, but he prefers to spend most of his time in the pleasant company of his young daughters and nieces (often falling asleep reading a book or report while the children are at play or lessons).
While Rotrik obviously has a higher official standing than his stunning sister, they have to come grips with one another before with Genna convincing father to her way of thinking on numerous matters before.
You are in no way physically attracted to her so don't even start.

> Our Hall and Home
Maiden Hall
With the further invest of comfortable living this place is really quite cozy and nice to relax in. We officially have the 'nicest' pad out of any previous House Quest. Given that both a lot of your male and female cousins of all ages live here, Maiden Hall abounds with the laughter and sounds of children.

> Town Name
Outside of the walled Maiden Hall (with a very shallow moat as well) is Woolington. Unlike other towns it doesn't sprawl across the hill it rests atop, it's more of a lazy sunbathing. Aside from a few hedges, low fences and natural barriers, the town is lacks and actual wall.

> Banner House Forces summary
The son and heir of the Banner house leads this force, and has taken to 'losing' or 'interpreting' the more... bizarre orders he receives from his Lord father.

x2 Trained Infantry
x1 Green Archers
x1 Veteran Archers

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>>46661556
>he prefers to spend most of his time in the pleasant company of his young daughters and nieces

>>46662052
Not like that anon, no.

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Rolled 1 (1d3)

1 = The Hundred Gauntlets
2 = The Shields of Gauthier
3 = The Gauthier Highguard
So the only thing remaining is a Name and Words for our banner house.

Remember, it was founded following a victory in (one of) the Blackfyre Rebellions and has developed moderately until the latest Lord who either turned mad or was always kooky.

> pic related is basically our youngest sister

>>46663689
>Madelyne Gautheir
I like that.

You could call them Quyet. Their Isle is just upstream from Maidenpool. Though a bunch of Penitent Brothers live on the island currently, but that can be remedied.

Their words are... Soft Word Strong Arms or something along that but better!

>>46645979
>-The heir, by playing power struggle with his father and his elder sister
>--can we get the bastard Elmo River who is champion of women?
How about playing as Rotrick and have Elmo as an outside contact?
I believe Elmo isn't actually officially recognized as existing by the rest of the house but nothing stops Rotrick from personally recognizing him as a friend.

Also, we should figure out just whose child is Elmo. Maybe of one of Gareth's sisters? I believe he was supposed to have three

>>46663809
"The hand that holds the sword"?

>>46663809
Aren't we supposed to be somewhere along the River Road, between Harrenhall and Riverrun?

>>46663689
By the way, Maester. Some pointless minutiae for you.
You might want to roll for the color of children's hair and eyes.
Something like:
On a 1d6
>1,2 - Father's color
>3 - Father's House's color
>4 - Mother's House's color
>5-6 - Mother's color

Now, person's color and house's color might be the same. And stuff like Baratheon (overpowers everything) or Targaryen (very much recessive) might change the table

>>46664131
I don't know. I thought our home was a Maiden Hall?

>>46664227
Well, it's a Maiden Hall. Maidenpool is a separate canon place and home to a separate canon house of the same name.
Though our Aunt is married to a Maidenpool, it seems

>>46664253
When are the Gautheirs set to have their story told? Same time as Asoiaf? After? Before?

>>46664301
Let's ask OP.
OP! When are the Gautheirs set to have their story told?

>>46664337
Yeah, we then can know what world we are working in.

>>46663918
Elmo was supposed to represent the scandal so perhaps another sister of the current Lord now deceased? Lord Gareth has no love for him but his ruined(reputation-wise) mother protected him, and Rotrik is friendly to him.

>>46664212
>fate decides all Lannister colours
Damn, not again.
I'm fine with anons naming a family members >>46645694 and rolling 2d6 each (1st is hair, 2nd is eyes).

>>46664253
Exactly this. Maidenpool is set further south-east closer to Harrenhall.

>>46664337
I'm inclined to set it a few months or up to a year before the events in the books/series.

So Jon Arryn is still alive for now and you would actually have some time to develop before the Lannisters send the Mountain into the Riverlands for happy-fun-playtime.

>>46664131
Yes, the Road that runs through Woolington is the River Road, you're nearly the last stop between Harrenhall and Riverrun. Certainly an opportunity for trade if you corner a market.

>>46664522
>OP actually believes the Lannisters send the Mountain into the Riverlands

You need to get up on your Preston Jacobs friend.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xivkvhigUfY

>>46661071
fuck lannister

Now what to do OP? Decide on 15 power for bannerhouse?

>>46645694
>>46645642
>Given the hype and some free time coming up I may be able to run a quest off this soon every Sunday.
Good man.
Any ASOIAF quest thread is aces

>>46664635
I can see Littlefinger encouraging Darry to incite Eddard against the Lannisters, but that doesn't mean that Tywin didn't let him loose as retribution against Catelyn Stark's family (given he couldn't strike at the North).

And the questions about gold in the village also acted as an excuse to torture, that was obvious. Given what we see, I don't buy that the Mountain was innocent of these atrocities.

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>>46664730
Already done >>46661556, now all that remains is to roll up a character. I have to leave in an hour, so I don't know if now is a good time to start.

Anons are also welcome to flesh out any further details they like, though please keep the excerpts about vast tracts of land as inexplicit as possible.

>>46664789
ok. any suggestions on direction of discussion to keep this thread alive?

>>46664768
House Darry aka Dairy are obviously decendants of House Butterwell. House Butterwell were the richest House in the Riverlands, from their dairy cows, then Bloodraven buggered them with a stick and left them penniless for trying to raise in rebellion for Daemon II Blackfyre.
Those three houses and the Bwb are working for Varys and Illyrio and are the bannerless Blackfyre Rebellion 6.0.

>>46664522
>>46664253
>>46664635

>There is a Maidenpool, Pinkmaiden and Maiden Hall all in the Riverlands all around the God's Eye/Harrenhal.

Hah that is actually perfect bravos

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>>46664853
Okay, even if the Mountain doesn't rape the Riverlands initially he DOES rape the Riverlands later.

The Riverlands end up raped sooner or later, and are the no-mans land for most of the war.

>>46664812
What form does your vassal-Lord's madness take? Is it perhaps a form of dementia in his senile years or a crueller madness he has displayed throughout his life?

How much of a babe is our sister?

What opportunities does our minor Lannister mother give us?

>>46664812
I could get us statting up Rotrick. But I can only start about 5-6 hours later unless something holds me up

>>46664939
>What form does your vassal-Lord's madness take?
Paranoia? He was always a bit too suspicious but recently he's gone way over the edge

>How much of a babe is our sister?
Total babe. We're not attracted though, that would be gross bro

>What opportunities does our minor Lannister mother give us?
Probably none. Mainline Lannisters tend to be pretty ruthless even to their kin

>>46664939
>>46664952

thx yeah.Lets just try to keep the thread in front page to attract more player and more idea

>>46664952
I'd appreciate it, mate. I won't be available until...some 18 hours from now, and you have a flair for character rolling.

>>46664974
not him, but adding something.

>The vassal Lord/Landed Knight is self-made man, from a commoner man-at-arm and rose up. What he did was a terribly thing, there is no rumor about it as he get very mad about it.

>She is babe but lesbian

>Lannister is rich

>>46664974
How angry do we get when other dudes check out our hot sister?
>super jock angry
>vaugely confused as to why they find such a dweeb attractive

>>46665038
>burly hairly man :gay as tag (bara)
>qt women: lesbian and bitchy/controlling as tumblr

>>46665020
A good idea for the vassal-Lord, remember though the house was founded at least 90 years ago and the Gauthiers some 300.

Speaking of our banner house. How was it founded? We know it's a Victory but we don't know its nature. I think figuring it out might very well help us flesh out the house, its name, its sigil and words

Remember please that it was during Blackfyre Rebellions, the current Lord is a different man from the founder

Maybe its founder was some sort of distant Gauthier bastard that led his squad to rout a Targ force and capture its noble leader? Now his grandson is going mad from his ambition

Maybe he was a baseborn self-made man, as >>46665020 puts it? He rose through the ranks and was a sort of black ops man for Gauthier lord of the time. His grandson is a vicious bastard with a cruel streak

>>46665038
but seriously, we feel proud at our stock but protective for sure.

>>46665038
"Whoa dude! I mean, I know she's gotta marry one day and stuff but just keep your hands to yourself, okay? I watching you"

>>46665056
>at least 90 years ago

i fucked at timeline, any link so that i can read? and also we haven't decide on how House Gaunthier being made right?

>>46665085
Considering they were made during Targaryen invasion, we're probably descended from some sort of a Targ supporter and a local beauty

>>46664939
>How much of a babe is our sister?

Considering the Lannister momma And the blood of the Gautheir who from their sigil are a House from some Riverlander Hand of the King. Probably House Harroway since being Hand was the last thing that house's lord did on this earth. The relatives would need to change their name after what Maegor the cruel did to their relatives so yeah I'd say Gennas pretty banging. She's got Lannister blood on one sides and the blood of Queen Alys on the other!

Rolled 2, 6 = 8 (2d6)

>>46665127
How 'bout that color roll?

1st - hair
2nd - eyes

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>>46665085
Our founding event was a favour (followed by two more) so the general idea is that we married our way into nobility following the chaos left in the wake of Aegon the Conqueror. We generally either stayed out of or weren't horribly affected by the majority of the conflicts since then, and have developed a reputation for siring hot babes that extort the virtues of the Maiden and are held by many as an ideal example of what a Westerosi woman should be.

Who exactly married who and other details have so far not been discussed.

>>46665154
Dad's hair, Mom's eyes.
Probably Auburn and Green respectively

>>46665166
Auburn hair tends to be a tully thing which having just entered this thread I have no idea as to weither or not we're connected to

regardless I'd rather go strawberry blonde

>>46665180
We (as players) don't know whether we're (as a House) connected to Tullys* but Gauthiers are also known for auburn hair. Established in thread 1

*Hope not, because we might've inherited their criminal inability to make good choices. The seed is strong

>>46665180
This. Doesn't matter who we're related too, well swing is so Genna Gautheir's hair is this.

>>46665216
>Doesn't matter who we're related too, well swing is so Genna Gautheir's hair is this.
English please

>>46665222
>We'll swing it so the sister is strawberry blonde

>>46665052
Hey there Pukesalot or whatever your name was. Fuck off

>>46665180
The Tully's are virtually next door, we're virtually the last stop between Harrenhall and Riverrun. We've definitely married in at least once in the last 300 years, and the same goes for about half of the houses in the Riverlands.

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>>46665204
okay so this better strengthens the case for delicious Strawberry blonde hair

>>46665242
did we inherit it though?

>>46665249
>gauthier tend to have auburn hair
>this better strengthens the case for delicious strawberry blonde hair
Umm.... what?
I mean, it's possible that she inherited from her mother but what's the logic behind that staement?

>>46665249
>that pic
I too entered Strawberry blonde into Google search, haha.

>did we inherit it
Ahhh, well a bit of Tully-red in our blood and then our blonde Lannister mother... does make a good justification for the current generation at least. Perhaps some of our cousins are the more brunette branch.

>>46665276
>a bit of Tully-red in our blood
Hopefully, there's no Tully-dumb. Time will tell, I guess

>>46665262
Mix red auburn Gautheir hair and blonde Lannister hair senpai

>>46665283
Wouldn't we kind of hope for the majority of our cousins to not be too bright lest they start getting ideas?

>>46665285
Ah, yes real world logic. Makes sense then.
I guess I got used to completely nonsensical genetics of Gurm's design

>>46665180
>>46665127
Interestingly the red hair of Sansa and Catelyn seems not to be from Tully genes, but from Red Haired Danelle Lothston since Cat's mother was a Whent who are related to the Lothstons and also held Harrenhal. (Which the Harroways also held)

>>46665321
bookwise they've always had auburn not red

HBO screwed up I guess

So! About the heir, he any good with a sword? Jaime-level or completely a shit?

>>46665450
Jaime is in the top 3 for the best swordman title, in a 1on1 fight against him only Selmy and maybe Lynn Corbray have a chance to fuck him up.

>>46665450
>Jaime level

not likely

>>46665450
I'd say pretty damn good but with a focus on natural skill and dem genetics rather than technique.

>>46665480
>>46665476
Even the Greatjon could shit and fuck Jaime up. Selmy is Jaime's equal in jousting, I think. Lots of people could fuck the shit out of him given the chance.

>>46665487
So we're like...Victarion Greyjoy? Or are we like Talbert Serry, the knight he killed? Do we even prefer swords? or are we more a morningstar/axe guy?

>>46665450
The Bastard (anon, not Elmo) will start the character roll-up in a few hours.

A focus on combat makes sense if we were once part of the 100 Gauntlets. Given our family's lack of notable achievements in warfare, a focus on tourneys and duels could also make sense.

>>46665450
Good but not Jaime level

The vibe I was getting during previous threads was that our house is blessed with pretty good luck all round.

The girls are all complete 10/10 stunners that can pull marriages way outside our house's standing and have knights fighting over them with just a giggle and a flick of their fan.
But they're smart too, using this social intelligence to dance through all games and intrigue of Westeros (that's why our family's managed avoid any negative events in the history).

The guys are just as lucky. Tall, tanned knights with chiselled features and rippling muscles. Not dumb by any means but definitely far less interested in political scheming. Instead they spend their time dawn to dusk hunting, fighting and basically being the sterotypical jocks.
All this means they're fucking good knights while their sisters, mothers and aunts are off pushing the political deals.

>>46665530
I'm seeing our guy as this brave if not fearless young lord who leads by the Van, first in battle, last to leave. Maybe he even rides with his bastard bro alongside him.

>>46665588
Dubs have spoken. Going to write fluff for our guy.

--Knighted at....fifteen, perhaps? Or sixteen? Maybe for some feat that really made the knight he was serving go "Wow you should be a knight." Maybe killing a small band of bandits running around?

>>46665632
"'Twas just a jape bro!"

>>46665515
I'd say swords and lances primarily to go with our stereotype of an image. I'm also seeing him as a decent brawler too, long afternoons wrestling shirtless with the rest of the 100 Guantlets. Good with a boar spear from all time spent hunting.
Bit of an all-rounder generally but no expert at range.

Stats-wise I'd say
>Fighting, Athletics, Endurance
>Animal Handling, Agility
>Some social skills, Warfare?
>Everything else
>Drop Thievery and Stealth to 1 for extra EXP elsewhere
Bonus dice in
>Longswords, Spears (lances), Ride
>Maybe Charm or Seducation, not really

>>46665632
>>46665589
Sounds good to me bro

>>46665632
Probably won some local tourneys, and placed decently in Riverland-wide ones. He's better with a sword than lance, his style can be described as traditional with the chaotic twist. He doesn't rely heavily on technique, instead tempering technique with erratic swings, skill and general unpredictability, which makes him so dangerous. A counter riposte won't help when this guy decides to use his superior speed to cut your head off while breaking through your guard.


Probably called like the Stronghand or something.

>>46665875
>He doesn't rely heavily on technique, instead tempering technique with erratic swings, skill and general unpredictability, which makes him so dangerous.
Warhammer then maybe, not sword?

>>46665899
Lets meet halfway, brother. Maybe a greatsword?

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>>46665926
No, not the huge maul thing. The actual warhammer

>>46665939
That's a good possibility, and I'm thinking our guy wields that monstrosity with one hand while keeping a kite shield on the other hand. Fuck. He's going to give the Mountain a hard fucking time.

>>46665960
What monstrosity? It's shorter than a sword

>>46665967
Wait. Really? So it's a morningstar-ish type of weapon?

>>46665995
Pretty much, yeah. Just a one-handed weapon designed to pierce enemy's armor
Flanged mace is also pretty much the same just looking better

>>46665632
If I may, the heir is young. I'm talking 18 MAX. It would make sense if he was knighted for some feat on the tourney field, but hasn't ever actually killed a man.

Given the high law and lack of recent conflict, the Riverlands have been idyllicly peaceful these past few years.

>>46666046
So, a Young Adult age category then, 14-18
Thanks for the info

>>46666046
Your call brother. I'm just thinking that he should have a true martial feat. Like Jaime killing someone part of the Kingswood Brotherhood.

>>46666079
Jaime was a prodigy, and an extremely lopsided one this guy... well, I guess we'll know
With the list of skills in >>46665854, we won't have many high ranks with the EXP given

>>46665875
Now I've got this image of him locked in a sword duel with someone then suddenly just stepping in close, grabbing his opponent behind a knee and slamming him to the ground.

>>46665926
I like the sound of a greatsword but with lots of halfswording and use of the sword as a lever in pseudo-wrestling moves.
I saw a youtube video once of some guys kitted out as knights demonstrating the various throws and trips they tended to use in the period and I wish I could find it because it sounds great for this guy.

>>46665995
>>46665967
This shows the sort of size you'd be looking at for a conventional warhammer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCfAuuG92g

Yahallo

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I'm off to bed now guys with work in 7 hours but I'll check in when I can.

I'm liking the discussion involving the heir, I'm assuming everyone is happy with the name Rotrik?

When you do get around to actual stats and details of back story, keep in mind that he is only just now starting to make a name for himself. He might have a moniker amongst the 100 Gauntlets from his skill and unpredictability in their practice bouts and the occasional tourney, but he's not famous (yet).

Also keep in mind that in our House the women are generally the source of our cleverest maneuvers involving intruige. Obviously our guy isn't a lackwit, but you should consider the type of relationship he has with his sister Genna and his mother, especially given Genna has convinced their father to her way of thinking against Rotriks choice before. There will be some friction there, Genna would probably prefer you to stick to your 'boy stuff' while she handles the intricacies, . how much is up to you. "With a soft hand" may not only refer to how you manipulate your foes, but also how you deal with your family.

There's also how you get along with your bastard-cousin Elmo Rivers, your father certainly hates him but honours his dead sisters wish that he be provided for. Is Elmo even allowed in Maiden Hall or does he have a spot somewhere in town?

Night fellas, and good luck.

>>46666997
Goodnight, and have a dream of all Gauthier maidens

>>46666997
If you could, please make a twitter account so we know when you are running and can join in without missing stuff.

As for some of the stuff posted, whilst it's cool to think he'll be an action hero.. using a greatsword is actually a huge stat investment, one that we may not be able to do at 18. As for tripping and wrestling, I know it was just fun convo but it's not really something you can (or want to) build for in this game.

He wont be a Jamie, Jamie is one of the best and as anon said, lop sided. I'm cool if we invest in his swordsmanship but it's something to keep in mind. Jamie has 8 dice in swordsmanship (Rank 5, 3 bonus) that is a significant investment and going over that would be a little absurd.

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Hey there, I'm back and with a picture!

Tell me, who wants to Rotrick this shit up?

Eh, let's go anyway

First thing: the age. As we know from Maester already, Rotrick is a Young Adult, 18 tops.

Let's be more precise. Give me a 1d4+14!

>>46668402
Rollin' bawss

Rolled 1 + 14 (1d3 + 14)

>>46668402
Rollin'

Rolled 3 + 14 (1d4 + 14)

>>46668402

why not rodrik?

>>46668439
Wrong die!

>>46668469
Aha! Rotrick is 17!

>>46668502
Because Westeros has only mangled English and Germanic names

Alright. Next is his status.
Given that he was bought for 20 influence points and our House's maximum Status is 4, it makes Rotrick's Status 3. Not exactly a lot but hey, we get what we can.
Also, more experience for other stuff

Now, his Role. Does anyone object to the list of skills in >>46665854?

>>46668538
The only thing I object to is dropping two skills to 1. 1 is inept. Whilst I can see us sucking in one skill to the point we are worse than the average person, two seems excessive and minmaxy

>>46668586
I agree, actually. But we'll cross that bridge once we get to it

>>46668538
>>46668586
Also instead of Seduction, maybe breeding? Brought up to be aware of who is who in the realm with the added bonus of bumping intrigue defence occasionally.

Status: Tournaments would also be decent if we were the kind of person to ride around and gain fame and honour for our house.

Any other opinions?

>>46668647
Not bad ideas both.
I'm also not so sure about what weapons if any he specializes in

>>46668538
>>46668686
generally agree, maybe focus on extrinsic beauty like seduction as we pretty boy like Tyrell. Tournament is nice and we play court there

Is there anyone (besides ourselves) worthy of courting and marrying our sister?

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>>46668731
Attractiveness is a quality that exists, yaknow...
Just sayan

Anyway, moving on
This makes our guy a Fighter. I wonder if he's also a Lover...

Okay, a background event. Give me a 2d6!

>>46668779
Victus Waters

Rolled 4, 4 = 8 (2d6)

>>46668787
so, it is decided?

>>46668836
We can discuss Specialties further once we get to them and know our guy's personality slightly better

>>46668836
Our fellow once kept the company of a famous individual. A bit weird, really. Maybe, he was warded somewhere? Riverrun?

Give me a 2d6 for Goal!

>>46668836
OOh a famous person. Blackfish?

Rolled 5, 1 = 6 (2d6)

>>46668869
Rollin boss

>>46668873
Blackfish is pretty amazing. Not sure how he could've gotten to him though

>>46668895
Well if one of our major skills is warfare we could have discussed battleplans with him and advised him during the war of the ninepenny kings.

>>46668888
Quads give us LOVE!
Why, of course, what else can a Gauthier desire?

Motivation now! 2d6!

>>46668873
>>46668895
if i am not wrong, Blackfish and Tywin are together in the Ninepenny War
>fuccboi
sorry

Rolled 5, 6 = 11 (2d6)

>>46668895
>>46668913

Although we are 17 shit.

>>46668917
Rollin boss

>>46668913
I don't think an underage runt is much of an advisor

Remember, It's a year before Jon Arryn's death and Rotrick is 17

>>46668930
Motivation is EXCELLENCE!
Does Rotrick wants the best lady in the land and to have a perfect family?

Moving on! Virtue! Another 2d6!

Rolled 4, 3 = 7 (2d6)

>>46668936
Yeah fair point, no idea then. Blackfish seems a stretch now.

>>46668957

>>46668936
Blackfish would be Knight of Vale or something like that in the Vale.
Let me try to list out famous ppl in riverland:
Edmure Tully?
Walder Frey?

>>46668538
I'm heading off soon so I'll leave this here.

230
fighting 5 160
Athletics 4 120
Endurance 4 80
Animal Handling 3 70
Agility 3 60
Warfare 3 50
Persuasion 3 40
Status 3 30
Awareness? Will? Speak High Valyrian? Marksmanship? Or change a 3 to a 4
Everything else 2
Stealth or Deception 1
If stealth AND deception we have another 50 points to play with.
Bonus Dice: Ride, Longblades, Spears or Brawling, Seduce or Charm, A warfare specialty? An agility or athletics specialty, or ride again?

I was the guy who did the first list for skills, here's how I'd do the breakdown pointswise but it's late here and I feel I may have made a mistake with the maths. I'd really like to drop both stealth and deception because I think it fits our character to be bad at both of those. He's not stupid, just not good with the tricksy stuff.
Also opens up the option of our sister training up our bastard relative as someone a little more stealthy to do some underhand work. And develops a source of tension between us and her if our deception's low, she'll feel the urge to keep some of the political manuevering to herself if she thinks we can't be trusted not to reveal something through our expression or whatever. Weak stats give really nice story hooks like that.

As for weapons. I'm really feeling war lance and longblades for this guy. Our girls are the perfect Westerosi woman, I reckon our guys should think they embody the perfect Westerosi man and that means swords and lances. Lances are also good for tournaments where our sisters can work their magic and we show off our chiselled jaws.
Other really important point is that anything Powerful gives us +Str in dmg (athletics) which looks like a damn fine boost. Greatsword, lances and boar spear are the powerful weapons that I think fit our character. Bastard sword isn't powerful but it's what I first thought of our guy using. Double-recurve bow is a Powerful ranged weapon

>>46668963
I guess we can figure it out by going from our best stat

>>46668963
Rotrick is surprisingly HUMBLE.
Well, that's something he shares with Elmo.

What's the Vice? 2d6!

Rolled 6, 3 = 9 (2d6)

>>46669005

Rollin for Licentious just to complete the stereotype

>>46668995
your effort is too much, i will vote for you.

>>46669009
Ew gross miserly

>>46668995
Considering your point about tourneys etc I think swapping Seduce or Charm for Tournaments is a good idea. But that's just my take on it.

>>46669009
He's MISERLY. That's unexpected... and a certain barrier on his way to true love

Moving to Abilities now

We have 170 EXP, or Status is 3, all abilities are 2
If we drop 1 ability to 1 we'll get 50 more EXP but don't think we'll ever succed in anything with this ability

Which one it will be?
Whievery? Stealth? Deception?
Or will it be none?

Entire list of Abilities:

Agility
Animal Handling
Athletics
Awareness
Cunning
Deception
Endurance
Fighting
Healing
Knowledge
Marksmanship
Persuasion
Stealth
Survival
Thievery
Warfare
Will

>>46669072
170+50 = 220 total

fighting 5
Athletics 4
Endurance 4
Animal Handling 3
Agility 3
Warfare 3
Persuasion 3
Status 3
Awareness 3
Will 3
Deception/ Stealth 1

Thats 220 points total

>>46669072
actually, i think we can drop thievery but not stealth as i dont think we have to steal while we may force to sneak sometimes. Deception should be like 2 or even 3 as useful in courting to girl.

>>46669072
>>46669088
Let's take a drawback, Supreme Arrogance sounds too good for a jock stereotype. Lascivious and Honour-bound could've fit too.

>>46669088
>>46669134
To amend my skill list I think theivery makes more sense, in our position of heir apparent how many opportunities do we have to steal? No need or want for it.

>>46669158
FFS, wait until we get there

>>46669161
Any idea on how to get into this thread? I don't know what all you guys are doing but I like the universe

>>46669179
We are creating a house and character for Green Ronins A Song of Ice and Fire rpg. You can find a copy of the book online if you search your local torrent sites etc

Okay, let's drop Thievery

220 EXP now

I'd like to point out that at Language 2 (Common) we CAN'T READ! Language 3 gives us basics, Davos-style, Language 4 is a great speaker and reader

Oh, and also:

Raising stuff to 3 - 10 EXP
Raising stuff to 4 - 40 EXP
Raising stuff to 5 - 70 EXP

Can't go above 5

>>46669202
Wit that in mind lets drop Will to 2 and bump language to 3.

>>46669202
Shit We would need that if we wanted to be the prince charming won't we? Poetry is supposed to be the best way to make the ladies swoon

>>46669134
This guy's basically just posted the same as me so I'm with him.

Forgot thievery was a thing, I'm definitely pushing to drop thievery AND either deception or stealth. It doesn't mean he can't try those things ... just that he's worse the average at them.

Anyway, I'm off now. Couldn't settle on qualities so you guys do whatever there. Attractive seems flavourful but perhaps not the most effective option.

>>46669231
i think we need at least to smooth talking
let's drop the stealth.

>>46669232
Literally copy and pasted your suggested but adjusted it to fit 220 exp lol.

>>46669263
Don't you think sinking 2 Abilities is a bit too much?

>>46669292
but need the extra point for the language? maybe drop the will to 2?

>>46669292
Nah go for it bro. Flaws are the best way to narrative opportunities

>>46669340
Its metagamey as fuck. Having an ability at rank 1 is a deficiency and the a young adult isn't supposed to have an extra 100 points.

>>46669340
That's not a flaw, that's sheer munchkinry. Drawbacks are better flaws

>>46669318
As offered in >>46669228
But lowering Will would decrease our Intrigue Defense

Though it's only 10 EXP to raise it back up during play... soooo I'm doing that

The list is:
fighting 5
Athletics 4
Endurance 4
Animal Handling 3
Agility 3
Warfare 3
Persuasion 3
Status 3
Awareness 3
Language (Common) 3
Thievery 1

Any more modifications?

>>46669374
I'm happy with that.

>>46669374
seconding, maybe we can learn to speak more eloquently later as aged.

>>46669374
So specialties come next. This is what I propose.

2 Longblades
1 Spears
1 Tournaments
1 Breeding
1 Charm

>>46669374
Actually, we have EXP for both Will and Language
There's Status in copy-pasted list, which I already subtracted from EXP available

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>>46669454
Let's give the full list

>>46669454
may i ask breeding for animal husbandry or sexology?

>>46669501
Breeding is for Status. It's basically, "Lord's knowledge" specialty

>>46669501
Breeding is a Status specialty:

"Breeding represents your knowledge of customs and procedures, the forms of etiquette and the expected behaviour when interacting with others of a similar of higher station. Whenever you engage in an intrigue with a character who has satus 4 or higher - and you are aware of the targets status - you may test status as a free action against the targets intrigue defence. Success grants +1 Bonus dice and every 2 degrees thereafter grants you another +1 Bonus dice.

>>46669501
>>46669548
So to cut it down:

Free Status test in intrigue against most people.

A success give you bonus dice for your persuasion stat (charm, convince, seduce etc) which is pretty damn useful.

>>46669500
i know jackshit of this but i like the sound of:

>Spears (count in tourney lance right?)
>Shield (jousting need shield too right?)
>Seduce
>Charm
>Tournament

>>46669548
erm, we can know she in heat or not?

>>46669454
How about
Long Blades (duh)
Brawling (for unexpected stuff)
Spears (jousting)
Tournaments (sports fan: the specialty)
Breeding (always useful)
Charm (We ARE a lover)

>>46669585
It's got nothing to do with sex...

>>46669604
I can get behind that.

>>46669638
Okay, done

Destiny Points and Benefits
As a Young Adult we get 5 Destiny Points
We can spend up to 3 to get Qualities. I'll go through the list and post the ones relevant to Rotrick and the ones he qualifies for

There was also talk of a drawback... Do we want to take one? If yes, I'll post the list

>>46669726
As far as Qualities my vote is for:

Attractive
Charismatic
Spear Fighter/Armour Mastery

Young adult has to take 1 drawback so I vote:

Haughty. Reasoning being something like "We've taken our reputation as a house of beauty and far reaching connections a little too seriously, as such we see those in a lower station as unworthy of our notice and respect" for example

>>46669726
>>46669793
Woops, Young adult doesn't have to, thats adult. My mistake

>>46669793
>Young adult has to take 1 drawback
Not the case

The whole list of Benefits
Pick up to 3

Beastfriend - a knack for work with animals
Cohort - gain a devoted ally
Heirloom - gain a Valyrian steel weapon
Lucky - reroll 1/day, take best
Night Eyes - see better in darkness
Sponsor - gain a powerful ally
Blood of the Andals - reroll a certain ability, take later result

Armor Mastery - armor slows down less, protects better
Brawler I - easier to fist-fight several opponents
Fast - move faster
Spear Fighter I - Attack again on a miss
Tourney Knight - Add Tournaments bonus dice on Fighting and Animal Handling test results when jousting.
Weapon Mastery - pick a weapon, you del more damage with it

Attractive - harder to fail Persuasion
Authority - reduce penalty on Persuasion
Charismatic - pick a specialty, bonus to those Persuasion results
Courteous - impeccable manners, helps with Deception and reading people
Favored of Nobles - bonus on Persuasion against Status 4+ people
Favored of smallfolk - bonus on Persuasion against Status 3- people

>>46670034
bu..but Tourney Knight?

>>46670045
I don't understand what you're implying?

>>46670008
>Tourney Knight - Add Tournaments bonus dice on Fighting and Animal Handling test results when jousting.
Attractive - harder to fail Persuasion

>>46670034
Attractive is a given, I think

Charismatic isn't terribly useful, I think, because it's only limited to one type of tests

Tourney knight is okay, and really drives home the "jock" part of the character

Ummm... I forgot. We also have to take Heir. So that limits us to 2 picks

>>46670089
You've got a good point about Charismatic. I'll delete my previous vote and change it to this:


Attractive
Tourney knight
Spear Fighter I

>>46670105
Can heir be free? Seems a bit silly to be forced out of a destiny point because of it. Same with head of household and nights watch etc etc

>>46670133
It was free for Malroy but there's nothing in the rules about any Quality being free.
I guess I can put it as questionably free, up for Maester's judgement

>>46670115
Okay, I'll take these if no one's against

>>46670229
go for it

Now, posessions.

Give me 3d6 for personal wealth

Rolled 3, 6, 3 = 12 (3d6)

>>46670288
Rollin

Rolled 6, 6, 3 = 15 (3d6)

>>46670288

>>46670308
12 golden dragons or 2520 silver stags, we have to spend at least half of it (1260 stags)

We also have:
a dagger
common clothes
boots
signet ring

We might want some armor, a few weapons, horse, nice clothes and so on. Discuss while I rip pictures out of the book

Rolled 1, 5, 1 = 7 (3d6)

>>46670288

>>46670380
thx yeah.
Can we be a spearfighter which is uncommon for highborn except the Red Viper?

>>46670401
Fuck that spear fightings for peasants either go full Arthur Dayne or wield a warhammer

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>>46670401
We're specialized in swordsmanship, spearfighting and brawling
A well rounded person

>>46670426
A bit late for that

>>46670442
Tourny Lance and a War Lance, Long Blade

>>46670426
fine, just to clarify i am not spearfag but spear has the reach and lighter compare to other pole-arm

>>46670442
Not really hell your chart even says Tourney and war lances fall under spears it just means we hella good with a lance not that it's our pvp weapon of choice

Besides spears are literally for peasants and unbefitting of a knight outside hunting and jousting

>>46670513
I assumed "spear" just meant lance in this regard
>>46670468
Half-plate

>>46670380
Longsword 500ss
War Lance 60ss
Tourney Lance 40ss
Ringmail 600ss (4 AR, 1 Bulk, -2 Armour Penalty. One of the better options for light armour)
Destrier if we can afford it

>>46670426
>>46670401
Spear fighting is really useful for lances so theres that.

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>>46670513
>not that it's our pvp weapon of choice
I never said it was. We specialize on 3 weapons. see upthread

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Noble garb costs anywhere from 100 to 1000 stags with few guidelines, so I'll just post this monster

>>46670565
Kinda need that kind of armor for jousting. Dont want to get impaled.

>>46670565
we focus being a tourney knight?

>>46670468
>breastplate
>>46670442
>war & tourney lance
>longsword

>>46670539
>Courser
>leather barding if any at all

>>46670588
If we buy that armour we can't afford a horse and weapons

>>46670625
yeah, get horse and weapon first as fundamental, we can buy part by part of armour?

Okay, I put in war and tourney lances, and a longsword (holy shit, it's expensive...)

We have 1920 left
I could post stats for armors and steeds if you want

>>46670695
>back in my day you could kit a knight in full for only 800 stags!

Longsword 500ss
War Lance 60ss
Tourney Lance 40ss
Ringmail 600ss
Courser 600ss

which leaves us with 720, not enough for the most basic barding. As such I think we should spend the 1000 for a Destrier and get barding and better armour for tourneys at later date.

With a Destrier we have 320, enough for some decent nobles garb

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Here are armor stats. Or base combat defense is 10

>>46670736
>nobles garb
Yes, guys. I really think we should invest into some of those fancy clothes. Every noble lady is crazy for a sharp dressed knight

>>46670774
>>46670736
Just get the cheap one

>>46670736
not a pro but destrier may not perform in tourney as being grumpy and hard to controlled?

>>46670787
Cheap what? Horse? The Destrier is better mechanically so it's a good option.

>>46670795
They are often used for tourneys rather than war due to how impressive they are but you are right, they can be "high spirited".

"Destriers are tall, strong, splendid anumals and are often high spirited. Destriers give knights a majestic air at tournaments."

>>46670795
DESTRIER : Destriers are tall, strong, splendid animals and are often high spirited. Destriers give knights a majestic air at tournaments. They are normally the most valuable type of horse, being well bred and highly trained. Some even consider them too valuable to risk in war—thus the courser is the preferred mount for fighting.

COURSER : Lighter than a destrier and less costly, coursers are still beautiful animals. Coursers are also strong and fast.

ROUNSEY: Lowest of all is the rounsey, a strong and capable steed of no particular breeding. Although rounseys are perfectly capable war horses, they are relegated to hedge knights, squires, and non-knightly men-at-arms. Rounsey are common riding horses and may also be used as pack animals.

>>46670839
I meant clothes.

>>46670839
>>46670844
thx teach, the destrier i know is the one that get horny on tournament and the one that bite

>>46670839
>The Destrier is better mechanically
By the way, where the FUCK are stats for horses in this damned mess of a book?

>>46670863
Ah k. Doesn't really suit the character though. We are from a house famed for beauty and all that.

>>46670874
Yeah that was an intentional set up by Lorace though, his horse was on heat and the Mountain was riding a male horse.

>>46670881
I know I've seen them but I am seriously struggling to find a fucking source. We can do it Bastard!

>>46670881
I am glad i am not the only one who has a hard time figuring the book out. Has really set back my Hedge Knight plans.

Fuck it, I give up searching

So, is it
Ringmail
Courser
Noble Garb, fancy but not too fancy

>>46671077
Fair enough

>>46671077
nothing to complain of.

Okay, I also put in some travelling clothes and a fancy-looking gambeson (padded armor that passes for normal clothing, think Rotrick's equivalent of Letterman jacket)

You have 315 remaining

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>>46671077
FOUND IT FUCK YEAH! Page 221 STEEDS!

>>46671236
Saddle bags ?

Backpack, tent and travelling gear ?

>>46671298
Most of this stuff is cheap but yeah, I'll add some

>>46671267
Thanks!
The difference is there but we can live with it so far

Alright, folks, we're close to being done.
We need height, weight, color of his eyes and hair, distinguishing features.
We could pick or we could do some improvised rolling

>>46671328
strawberry blonde hair is a must?

>>46671328
5'11

Auburn hair and hazel eyes.

>>46671298
Actually, most of this stuff could be provided by the house. We're mostly doing personal posessions.

I put it in as implied and rounded money down to 300 stags

>>46671431
We could also just save the money or buy a pack horse ?

>>46671405
>>46671359
Any support for a particular option?
Or I can tie-break it via rolling

Also, took the height and put the weight as 200 lbs. Is that okay? Or I could convert it into 14 stone

>>46671468
We can figure it out in play. I doubt we'll travel anywhere without a wagon, really

>>46671533
91kgs is fine yeah

>>46671533
It seems alright

Hair roll! Give me a 1d2!
1) >>46671359
2) >>46671405

Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>46671628

>>46671636
House powah!

Any distinguishing features in mind?
Flowing hair, like mother's?
Piercing eyes?
Scars from training?

>>46671688
Thick hair that curls ?

I really have no idea when it comes to this

>>46671731
Good enough

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AND HERE WE GO!

>>46671778
Hurray. Now to make him and Elmo make sweet, sweet forbidden love.

>>46671808
They're kissing cousins

>>46671778
What next are we done with the setup stuff?

>>46672088
Well, there's still the issue of our banner house not having a name, a sigil or a motto.

A few ideas upthread:
>>46663809
>>46664006
>>46665065

>>46672271
Damn i like the black ops and the distant bastard ones, perhaps while we use a soft touch they use a hard one.

>>46672271
I mean is the House even big enough to even have a banner house? Shouldn't that come later when we gain lands and wealth?

>>46672394
Jeez Louise! Yes, Gauthiers have a banner house. Read the threads, the link is in the OP

The banner house could be descendants of a bastard and be more stiff and tough, less noble more practical. The question is do we want then to be really loyal or not.

>>46672496
Could also just be a good friend of a former lord. A Brohouse so to speak

>>46672506
It would be good to have them strong where we are weak, and weak where we are strong.
Hopefully they will have a ambitious plotting daughter we can marry that plots for us.

>>46672379
Okay, combining both in >>46665065:

Ser Robar Redbrook was a sworn sword to house Gauthier and a son of Elyon Rivers, a Gauthier bastard of good standing. During Blackfyre Rebellions he was the commander of an extreme-prejudice force, in direct command to the current Lord of the House. Once he was given a location of a hidden entrance to an enemy fort.
His surname and the name of his new house was given due to the color he dyed the stream the fort stood on

His coat of arms is a black clenched gauntlet on a field split in a wave pattern: blood-red below and fire-yellow above

>>46672506
It's a house built on victory and with a crazy current lord

>>46672563
>It would be good to have them strong where we are weak, and weak where we are strong.
Kinda how it is, yes. The stats are upthread

>Hopefully they will have a ambitious plotting daughter we can marry that plots for us.
Not at the moment. They do have a heir though

>>46672631
I just figure when we get a wife we need the plotting kind and then just stumble along with her.

>>46672577
The words:
"The hand that holds the sword"
"By the strength of our arms"
"Our grasp is strong"
"Kind word, Sharp blade"
"Ow the Edge"

>>46672708
"Strong Arms"

To keep it simple.

>>46672577
This is good are bastard or maester still around?

>>46672577
>coat of arms


Per Fess rayonny, Or and gules. A Clenched Gauntlet sable.

>>46672708
I'm a fan of "The Hand That Holds The Sword"

>>46676630
Yeah, so am I

>>46672871
>>46671778
Nicely done, gents. With this I can get to work on our first thread. This won't be until the 24th or 25th this month, perhaps I'll run it shortly after the new Season first airs? It will generally be cancel on a Sunday morning for me in Australia East Coast which makes it... well ill figure out what the actual 4chan time would be before then.

>>46667679
> twitter etc
Will do mate, and I will post a reminder thread a few days before we get this underway.

It will be set shortly (a few months to a year) before the events in the book/series so you will have time to stock up on lube before the Riverlands get a dicking.


There was discussion before as to whether the 'Heir' trait was free. As a compromise (because heirless/lordless Genna was also an option) I will say YES it is free BUT your Spear Fighter I trait only applies to jousting and war lances NOT short spears and pikes becuase >>46670513 is absolutely right. Outside of Dorne a spear is absolutely a peasant weapon, and in every one of these sort of quests I always see one anon pushing for a spear wielding unique snowflake.

I hope that seems fair to all? Otherwise very good, it's going to be very fun writing for a morose knight that is driven to excellence in the hope that someone will love him for who he is (but never brags about it). I think we can work with this.

I'm back to work now, but if this is still up in a few hours I'll archive it and start work on House Gauthier Quest.

>>46672577
>>46672708
Very nice. I like the idea of a Black Ops band of Gauthier warriors that have done well for themselves and are now currently under bad/eccentric management. Im imaging a smaller version of the Blue Stripes from the Witcher series. For the record, Rotrik(Rotrick?) hasn't interacted with the banner house lord much, but the banner house heir rode with the 100 Gauntlets for a spell.


Well done, Bastard and anons!

>>46679437
>morose
Is he? Considering he has Charm specialty, I don't think he's terribly morose

Also, it's already archived

>>46679437
>are now currently under bad/eccentric management

Not sure it quite meshes together but that's what I got:

Current Lord Alewyn Redbrook was always a nervous and suspicious man but for most of his life it wasn't a problem. As he got older though, it's been hampering his house more and more as every shadow started brandishing a knife, every noble court became a conspiracy and every passing by hedge knight was looking for things to steal and houses to burn.
He never had much of head for money but he always knew the strength of sword, so he started raising his military beyond what was reasonable and police his territory more... which didn't bring smallfolk any love for him or his laws. A lot of people fled and the rest are forced to live a life of fear. With Lord's forces busy harassing the citizens, highwaymen from neighbouring places have gotten bolder which only exacerbated the situation

TL;DR: The man is a paranoid conspiracy theorist, gone full Stalin

>>46680791
great, just my own add-on
his heir, is like banished as his mad father is paranoid because he thinks the heir is trying to replace and murder him and of course the heir overachieving when hanging out with the liegelord/heir.

>>46680791
Paranoia is a good one, but wouldn't a full-Stalin mean pretty high law compared to what they have?

>>46681861
That's why I said it doesn't quite meshes
I was writing under assumption that despite all his efforts to control he essentially makes the situation worse. His guards are pretty much thugs themselves and are more busy extorting the populace than protecting them from anything

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>>46683551
That's some pretty neato shit right there, anon.

>>46682446
Ah yes, that makes sense.

And the Redbrook heir hanging out/semi-banished to our lands is a nice touch, given the fairly lavish townhouse they own in Woolington.

>>46679524
> already archived
Noice.

I thought his drawback was being Miserly? I took that to mean being a cup half empty guy instead of a penny-grubber.

It's much more fun to write options for a humble/excellent/cynic looking for love than it is to justify why you would never ever spend shit. Hell, maybe Love is Rotrick's goal but he cynically believes he'll never find it and will have to settle for whatever comfortable monotony is offered from an arranged marriage.

>>46684128
>I thought his drawback was being Miserly? I took that to mean being a cup half empty guy instead of a penny-grubber.
>It's much more fun to write options for a humble/excellent/cynic looking for love than it is to justify why you would never ever spend shit. Hell, maybe Love is Rotrick's goal but he cynically believes he'll never find it and will have to settle for whatever comfortable monotony is offered from an arranged marriage.
You're the QM. If you think that would work better, go for it

>>46684128
Just got a chance to read through the thread. Love the concept, definitely a fun twist on how a House raised to fame and operates. Always cool to see more /tg/ Houses.

Best of luck Maester running your quest, I'll be sure to follow. Cheers.

>>46684128
>>46679437
I don't like the idea of him being morose (we've had too many morose ASOIAF main characters) but I can see why just a plain miser might not be fun to write. How about he's miserly because he's super humble. Doesn't want to flash the cash because he doesn't think he deserves it. Humble's a nice change from just about every other PC, also ties in to why he's so charming.

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I'm all finished with work for today, so I'm getting cracking on the content, characters, maps and other stuff/things/materials needed for a beauty of a quest. I'll be around to answer any further questions should you need it, and take note of any ideas you guys would offer as well. I'll also set up a twitter-twatter account I guess.

For anyone wanting to read up on our House in a bit more detail heres a link to the archived threads (thanks whoever did that).
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Gauthier

Just letting you guys know now that if you want to not be laughed off the Tourney field you will NEED better level armour. That's both a safety and status thing.

>>46684183
>>46684946
I'm more than happy with us revisiting our goals, motivation, virtue and vice.

Honestly, if necessary I'd rather put all four to a vote than chance. There's no point in roleplaying a character in a way that people won't genuinely have fun playing them as.

On the other hand though, your justification works very well with what we currently have. Not for Rotrick the gaudy enamelled plate and swords with hilts more expensive than the blade. I imagine that he prefers efficiency over flash, which ironically makes him stand out more to some people.

How about he also refrains from bragging about his achievements (which admittedly few and far between so far)? He lets his excellence show through deeds rather than words.

>>46685344
Have you read any of the other Thrones Quests?

>>46685344
Personally I'd really push to replace the ringmail with splint. If we go for simpler noble garb (as fits our character) we should be able to afford it and our armour rating goes from 4 to 7.
And desu I really don't see our knightly stereotype of a character going around in ring mail.

Also, should our Spear Fighter trait also apply to the boar spear? I figure nobles love hunting boar.

>>46685344
You could also interpret his "Miseriness" through the lens of his desire for excellence. He might have a tendency to be unwilling to commit whatever resourse he has, be it money, time or men without considering many options and finding the optimal one.
In a way, it's insecurity, looking for flaws too much and overthinking

I'm not saying that's how /tg/ works but that's how /tg/ works

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>>46685475
I've read some and participated in a few. House Harrock and House Karban were my favourites. I also followed House Bordain and the short-lived House Brachen and House Bulwark but did not contribute.

>>46685696
>armour
I'll be sure to present you with the opportunity to acquire something more up-market early on if you are smart about it, but I won't dangle it in front of your face.

>Boar spear
Yes certainly, good thinking. Gutting a charging boar is a different matter than fighting a man, of course, but hunting is definitely one of the top things the 100 Gauntlets and other Gauthier men do with their spare time.

>>46685716
You mean our every decision will be plagued with voices of doubt and insecurity? Who knew haha.

>>46685696
I actually put a gambeson on his list of belongings and it's surprisingly expensive (200 ss). If we dump it, there'd be 500 ss free. If we also dump Ringmail, we'll have 1100 and we could buy Splint mail

One problem: it's really fucking bulky, as bulky as full plate, though less restrictive. Does anyone have extensive enough experience with the system to tell how it will affect our capacity to act on foot?

>>46685773
3 bulk only reduces his foot movement by 1 yard/turn. That'll rise to 2yd penalty if we have a large shield but we can just stick with a normal shield unless we're mounted.
I suggested splint rather than brigandine because of the armour check penalty, I don't know the siutation well enough to comment of that

>>46685926
>>46685773
In fact I'd rather go for splint then use the money we save to get a shield, it's cheaper and the 1 lower armour rating is made up by a 3 higher combat defense.

Could even afford a knife and a left-hand dagger for emergencies. LH dagger can either add 2 to or combat defense our 1 to dmg while the knife is a fast, brawling type weapon so we'd be a surprisingly could fighter even without our lances and longswords

>>46686033
no offense, but it is too much on metagaming?
As a tourney knight, we should have our own full set or amour and lance and shield. We could pick up dagger later though, and maybe lower some standard of armour to allow more item purchase?

>>46686033
>>46686168
I don't think anything holds us from having several sets of armor down the line. Plate and lance for tourneys, splint or even ring and shield for skirmishes

>>46686168
Not really metagaming. We only have enough to afford brigandine or splint+shield, as a tourney knight I'd say rocking up to a joust without a shield is way worse than rocking up with (slightly) lighter weight armour.

We can pick up better stuff once we make some money trashing brigands.

Comparing us to the sample Kingsguard statblock
>Shield+splint armour gives us Combat Defense 9 (the same as run-of-the-mill kingsguard) with Armour Rating 7 (compared to their 10)
>1 better Agility and speed, and 1 more bonus dice for brawling,
>Equal Athletics, Awareness, Fighting, Warfare, Will, Fighting in the joust, Health, Composure,
>1 less bonus dice for Fighting with longblades, spears, shields and Riding in tournaments
>2 less bonus dice for Riding generally
>2 lower Intrigue Defense
Selmy or Jamie would both cut through us like they were carving a cake, even with one arm tied behind their back, but even so I think that's pretty good. Our first experience should probably go toward buyiing a couple of bonus dice for riding.

>>46686168
Paying attention to advantages from the rules isn't in itself meta. That and it makes sense for Rotrik to equip himself with functionally superior armour.

Having a dagger isn't odd either as knights often used dirks and the like to slip in between the links and visors of opponents in full-plate. (being a two-weapon wielder for the purpose of superior ability when we have already established ourselves as favouring a Longsword would be though).

>>46686266
You'd be a fool to have your means and (access to) money and wear anything less than half-plate at a Tourney or on a massive battlefield, but it's certainly preferable to ride down lesser opponents like brigands and raiders in lighter armour.

>>46686326
I don't think you'd be allowed to even compete in a joust without a shield, after all it's what the knight is generally -supposed- to aim at. Points are scored more from shattering lances than knocking other riders clean off.