Rolled 4 (1d10)

>>45375594

>>45375708
Strategic prognostication, Founded on the whims of prophecy, always a good start!

d100 for when we were founded

Rolled 61 (1d100)

>>45375719

>>45375729
The 39th millenium, well, at least it ain't the cursed founding!

d100 for our progenitor! (and pray its not the ultrasmurfs)

Rolled 75 (1d100)

>>45375746

>>45375756
The Dark angels... all aboard the heresy/paranoia/suspicion train!

d10 for our gene seeds purity brothers!

>>45375774
dice+1d10

aight

Rolled 10 (1d10)

>>45375780
fuck I'm an idiot

>>45375774
I'm out. It's the third time I rolled Dark Angles in these threads and it's my least favorite Chapter.

>>45375798
Flawed- our gene seed is horribly flawed... noice

well lets keep going 1d10 for chapter demeanour
>>45375815
Aw but we have flawed gene seeds!

>>45375815
>>45375822

true, I have seen a lot of DA's in these threads.
I say we reroll?

>>45375828
Hmmmm... Yea sure RE-ROLL!

d100 for chapter progenitor, we have flawed gene seeds regardless though!

Rolled 9 (1d100)

>>45375847
Yes, let's keep it

>>45375866
Well... it's ultrasmurfs... BUT we do have HORRIBLY flawed gene seed so... Ithink it all balances out

d10 for chapter demeanour as we already rolled gene seed purity

Rolled 5 (1d10)

>>45375883

>>45375917
Scions of mars - the flesh is weak! most likely compensation for our flawed gene seed! Cool!

now roll a d100% to see if we get a 90 or more for MORE gene seed mutation

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Rolled 81 (1d100)

>>45375940
rolling for the most messed up gene-seed the galaxy has ever seen

Rolled 4 (1d10)

>>45375940
Shouldnt that be a d10?

>>45375963
Ah DAMN! We needed a 90 or more cause ultramrines succesors only have a 10% mutation chance, oh well

we are still flawed so OH WAIT I'm dumb we roll on both tables

d10 for gene seed mutation

Rolled 6 (1d10)

>>45375986
Yes sir!

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>>45376022
...umm, excuse me, but isn't that result kinda bad?

>>45376022
Lost zygote... correct me if I am wrong but that's mean we strait up don't have one of our organs right?

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>>45376084
Which one, though?

>>45376140
Indeed! I say we discuss it! What would be most interesting to lose?(This excludes the black carapace and progenoids as those are a different result on the table)

Personally? Wht if we didn't have a second heart? It would certainly be unique, and makes for an interesting Chapter culture, or at least it could

>>45376151
Melanchromic organ? We could have albino marines.
>>45376184
Or we could do this. They turned to cybernetics to offset the major disadvantage of only having one heart.

>>45376151
>>45376184
How about the clotting one? It would explain why so many of the brothers are mechanized.

>>45376203
Raven guard kinda already have that minus the red eyes...
>>45376209
It's this or the lack of a secondary heart, either one works for me because both are SERIOUS problems for a space marine.

Opinions? Which of these two should we use? Lost muchranoid or no secondary heart?

>>45376224
I mean Laramans organ, not mucranoid.

No heart secondary or no Laramnas

I'm thinking one heart, which they work around with a cybernetic replacement.

>>45376224
>Raven Guard already has that
Well shit, that's news to me.

>>45376247
Alright, our chapter is cursed with no secondary heart by way of mutation! We make up for our horrible deficiency with extreme cybernetic augmentation!

Alright, now we need a d10 for Chapter flaw

>>45376224
No secondary heart, it's the more interesting

Rolled 10 (1d10)

>>45376260

>>45376291
Chapter cult - practices of our chapter are strange and... unsavory

Lets nail this down now, how are our ways unsavory? What fucked up pseudo-heresy are we into?

>>45376309
It should involve hearts, blood, machines or all three

>>45376309
I'd say, given we are lacking a heart, it should be something about ripping out the hearts of our enemies and eating them, or something similar.

>>45376309
Perhaps they do actually grow the secondary heart, but it's really screwed up? So they cut the secondary heart out of the neophyte and have him eat it?

>>45376309
We eat the hearts of those we slay in battle? Sort of a "gaining the heart we don't have" ritual?

>>45376326
No wait, fuck that, after battles we go around collecting hearts for corpses, put them in pile and burn them.

>>45376326
IDEA!

We take the hearts of worthy foes, augment them with cybernetics, and SHOVE THEM IN THERE

>>45376332
Also this
>>45376342
To predicatable
>>45376344
Not fucked up enough

>>45376351
Fuck, wish I'd thought of that. Yeah, this sounds suitable crazy

>>45376351
I second this one.

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>>45376351
>augmenting worthy hearts for their own use
I'm digging this.

but how often would they find suitable hearts?

Ok so,(our name HAS to involve hearts now), after a battle our apothecaries remove the hearts of worthy foes be they xenos, chaos or otherwise,augment them and place them where our ordinary second heart would be. These hearts inevitably fail and are replaced by more worthy foes. In addititon, our original secondary heart which is grown but is useless is eaten by its own neophyte in a special ceremony upon becoming scouts

now, d100 for chapter figure of legend

>>45376402
Also, we mark how many hearts a brother has had, the more hearts, the more glorious of a veteran as it represents the worthy foes they have fought

Rolled 61 (1d100)

>>45376402

>>45376422
YES A master of Sanctity! I declare his title to have been Heart taker! Now,

d100 for his deed!(Other than taking ALL the hearts!)

Rolled 28 (1d100)

>>45376436

>>45376448
THIS IS ONLY GETTING BETTER! An enemy of chaos, he slew a Daemon prince AND TOOK HIS HEART FOR HIS OWN!!!!

d100 for chapter homeworld... this is going great!

>>45376448
Well his backstory is sorted (shoved a deamon heart in his chest)

Rolled 74 (1d100)

>>45376464
this is getting pretty heretical

>>45376477
Shit, a feral world would have fit this nicely

>>45376477
Well... thats ironic... a civilised worls, though we caan EASILY make this work

d100 for homeworld terrain

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>master of sanctity with the heart of a daemon prince

>>45376477
This is hilarious, a Civilized World?! What is this, Aztec World part 2?

Rolled 58 (1d100)

>>45376493

Rolled 2 (1d100)

>>45376493

Rolled 69 (1d100)

>>45376493
Homeworld should be called Ashardalon.

>>45376501
A civilised ice world, alright

d10 for how we rule it

Rolled 7 (1d10)

>>45376501
Okaaaay, not Aztec, maybe homocidal Inuits?
>>45376509

>>45376496
Doesn't /tg/ have an Aztec chapter already, the Blood Jaguar or something

i'm not saying wendigos, but probably wendigos

>>45376515
Distant rule. We are the terrors of the world, we are the savage warriors of the emperor, we are what our world fears most, and they offer their children to sate their true master's, the warriors who take their hearts from their own chests to be devoured

d10 for chapter organization

Rolled 3 (1d10)

>>45376533
codex a shit

Rolled 10 (1d10)

>>45376533

>>45376506
Like that dragon?

>>45376546
Apparently not.

>>45376547
Aaaand there we go. Voting for this.

>>45376533
That feels a little bit to feral worldy

>>45376547
Thirded

>>45376546
Damn it, codex adherent... if only your roll had been second cause the other guy got unique organization... all in favor of going with the unique organization instead of the first roll for coolness?
>>45376553
MAybe yea we will develop this better

ALRIGHT popular vote means unique organization laddies

d10 for our combat doctrine, hope either CQB or terror

>>45376547
I vote for this. Much more interesting.

Rolled 10 (1d10)

>>45376574

>>45376581
WE GOT TERROR!!!

ok d100 for the unit we CAN NOT field

>>45376589
ALSO OP will be back shortly, don't fuck up the thread

Rolled 99 (1d100)

>>45376589

>>45376601
...err, these guys really aren't about this whole 'Ultramarines Successor' thing are they? What do gents?

>>45376601
So, we rolling two on this or coming up with something really out there (I vote the latter)

>>45376549
Yeah, the one that replaced his heart with an entire demon in some dnd 3.5 supplement.

>>45376611
>>45376613
What does the result mean? I have no book.

>>45376611
They could be from one of the legions that the ultras absorbed after the heresy, like the silver skulls are.

>>45376630
Use this https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Space_Marine_Chapter_Creation_Tables

>>45376628
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Space_Marine_Chapter_Creation_Tables
> Roll Twice on this Chart or choose something truly unusual (i.e., the Chapter has no Scouts, the Chapter’s Veterans are not formed into the 1st Company, etc.)

With the whole attaching chaos/xeno hearts to themselves I really can't see this chapter playing well if the inquisition or even other space marine chapters catch on to that.

>>45376636
Shit, meant to reply to this>>45376628

>>45376638
>>45376636
much obliged

>>45376630
Point.

Say, how about not fielding Devastators? Heavy weapon fire FUCKS UP hearts.

>>45376651
Devastators would be used against those we weak, unworthy hearts

>>45376642
It wouldn't be the first chapter the Inquisition wasn't fond of.

>>45376601

>>45376613
Well, what do you mean by 'truly' out there? Enlighten me with ideas of our EXTREMELY unique organization laddies

>>45376682
I'm just saying Chaos corrupts, and while you can take the heart out and replace it you're still going to be tainted.
I like the chapter and they way it's shaping up I just think it fits more renegade rather than loyalist marines (basically like Relictors or something)

>>45376642
I still think we need to think the details of this through. Having a xenos heart is one thing, but a daemon heart is bound to lead to some awful stuff.

>>45376709
Our flawed gene seed might have brought an increased resistance to the corrupting powers of the warp.

>>45376706
WELL, MAYBE, BUT ALSO...
>>45376709
It was a master of samcity, he was SO pious he overcame the corruption. I ALSO say he is still our chapter master/Master of sanctity/Head Librarian cause merging all three just sounds BADASS! Plus I think that daemon heart would make him effectively immortal AND give him psyker powers

>>45376689
If you're going to put me on the spot, I'd say something like not using the 10th Company for initiates, but I'm struggling for away to make it unique right now.

>>45376720
Also this

ONE HEARt Of THE PURE! ONE OF THE TAINTIED! WE CARRY BOTH IN OUR BREAST!

>>45376721
I'm not sure if that's the best idea I've ever heard, or the dumbest.

For uniqueness I say we only field devastators against those we consider weak, the Reliquary, Librarium and chapter comman are all merged. Most Captains are also either Chaplains or librarians, and our chapter master is all three

>>45376737
I'm going to say the latter

>>45376732
Well, I think we have a chapter motto, or at least the base for it

>>45376748
My vote is for the former.

look, I thin kit is awesome, but if everyone else finds it stupid it won't be the case... but COME ON!!! He is the leader of all three, the command is completely merged, it just sounds awesome! And it IS truly unique in structure

>>45376721
I still don't know. That's rather Mary Sue-ish.
The combining of the posts isn't the problem, it's the daemon heart.

So we still need a resolution for the unit our chapter cannot field. I vote no devastators.

>>45376770
We covered the deamon heart early, he killed a Deamon Prince, augmented the shit out of its heart, and shoved it in his chest, because our chapter is quite clearly mental

>>45376778
Sure no devastators, it destroys the hearts to often

>>45376770
I could see it being mary sueish, but we DID roll it and... I can see problems with it. He is constantly fighting the corruption in his heart, and he nearly DIED getting it obviously... we could even put him in a dreadnought, making him the first psyker Dread I know of, as well as chaplain and chapter master. He is not invincible and is stuck in a dreadnought

Let's not get too carried away here, though.
Sick motto >>45376732
>>45376770
The Daemon heart itself isn't too bad, but having it make him immortal and a master psyker would be going too far.
It should merely be an augmented daemon heart. Anything else is too much.

>>45376706
Why don't we run with this? Basically this is a chapter on its downward spiral to corruption and the Figure of Legend isn't helping matters.

>>45376803
Nah, keep the Devastators, how else are you going to destroy those with hearts unworthy for the chapter to claim

>>45376812
I still think you so much as touch chaos tainted shit like that and it's only a matter of time until you're getting excommunicated with extreme prejudiced and a fuckload of virus bombs

>>45376829
I say we merge this with
>>45376819
The Chapter's ambition to acquire and augment the hearts of the strong will eventually be their downfall, be it through discovery and excommunication by the Inquisition, or the corruption of ever stronger hearts within their breast.

OK GUYS

LETS CALM DOWN

ok, yes this is PRETTY renegade but thats fine in my opinion, maybe the Inquis constantly screen them, remember the Excorcists LITERALLY have DAEMONS posess initiates

As awesome as Chaplain, Chapter master/Psyker dread wwould be... ok if thats to mary sueish we can make him not immortal, and not a psyker(I still want him as chapter master in a Dread)

>>45376829
If the Silver Skulls are allowed to fuse one of their scout with a Battle Barge, then why can't the Heart Taker claim a foul deamon heart and beat it into submission with his will and devotion

>>45376803
>>45376791
>>45376812


Right. Perhaps our chapter master can sustain himself against the corrupting power of the warp, but only with great and immense agony. His faith in the emperor is the only thing perpetuating his mind, and each passing decade represents another aspect of his personality/memories that is lost. The highly advanced life support systems of a dreadnought are necessary to combat the warp corruption seething through his flesh.

In addition, the gradual, evergrowing rage boiling inside our chapter master has led him to obsess even further over heart taking. It has come to represent the only possible respite from his torment. For although his faith in the Emprah may sustain him, it has not been able to cure him. He obsesses over driving the chapter to seek greater and greater hearts so that they may all grow strong, and he might find relief.

>>45376829
I think the chapter should pretty much be on the verge of being excommunicated.

>>45376866
THIS YES! WE HAVE IT BROOTHERS!! Also we arent actually done rolling...

What unit do we field MORE of? d100

>>45376896
Are you OP?

Rolled 88 (1d100)

>>45376896

ALSO As for wierd organization

Our chapter command, reclusiam, and Librarium are all merged.

All captains are also either a chaplain or Librarian, and the Chapter master is currently Also the Master of sanctity

>>45376910
So, we are basically stealing the Iron Hands command structure? Sure I'm done for that

>>45376904
Yes
>>45376905
sry, I meant our special stuff, we have a preferred fighting style... I say two chainaxes

If we already augment our hearts then maybe the Tech Priests work with the Chaplains to purify them during augmentation processes.

We are gonna skip chapter beliefs, we have those.

d10 for current chaapter strength

Rolled 3 (1d10)

>>45376941

>>45376926
How can you claim hearts if both hands are holding a weapon, reinforce a gauntlet and beat our foes with it

>>45376947
Under strength, so about half strength, result of a recently savage campaign>

d100 for chapter allies... this should be interesting

>>45376951
Power fists specially designed for heart extraction?

>>45376951
This.
Gauntlets are ideal gear for ripping out hearts.

Rolled 99 (1d100)

>>45376956

>>45376960
>>45376951
WHY NOT??!! THe HEART TAKERS FISTS!! Common loadout? ALWAYS HAVE A POWER FIST!!!

>>45376968
Why not chainfists for sternum opening?

>>45376965

schola progenium... you know what? WE HAVE NOFRIENDS!!!!!!

d100 for our enemies

>>45376976
Yes, this is a good idea

Rolled 23 (1d100)

>>45376982
ye, the schola progenium is weird anyway
rollan

>>45376985
ALRIGHTY THEN! Wait... that would also mean LOTS of treminator armor guys...

>>45376995
Maybe we should go back to being a DA successor in that case....

>>45376993
Apparently the orks... THEY HAVE TRULY POWERFUL HEARTS!!!!

We are now done rolling... holy shit this has gotten so metal

>>45377008
He has a point... how else would we have enough Termie armor to make our chinfists the most common form of fighting?

Did we ever decide on a name?

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>>45376995
No, just a lot of spare chainfists, its not like we are following any sort of logic at this point

>>45377012
I think it might be a good idea to sort everything we have right now.
Then we should pick topics to discuss further, before moving on to the name, color and heraldry.

>>45377029
NO! IT MUSt INVOLVE HEARTS!!!!

>>45377024
Also, maybe our Master of Sanctity got his daemon heart off a recently transformed fallen angel.

>>45377040
THIS

is a good point. let me ttype up a summary REAL QUICK

>>45377029
I've been trying to come up with a variant of 'Heart Claimers' that doesn't sound shit for that last 10 minuets. I've had no luck so far.

>>45377045
What's latin for heart? Google says cor, but I don't think that's the organ.

>>45377024
>>45377048
The terminator armors should go to the veterans. Power fists and chainswords will have to do for the rest.

>>45377059
>>45377074

Perhaps Pector Vendicant? Heart Claimers?
Pector is the spiritual heart.

Let's wait for the summary.

>>45377074
Cardio

The secondary heart is called the Maintainer.
Just thought that might be relevant.

>>45377091
I think that might be as good as we get on the name front. Now does anybody have any ideas for chapter colours, besides red?

>>45377121
Wait for that summary. If writefriend decides to make them a DA successor then it should have "Angel" in there somewhere.

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>>45377121
Red and blue?

wait for writefriend

>>45377142
That's kinda predictable,

>>45377150
That's what I was thinking

>>45377150
My DA successor army is grey with red trim. It might work for the mechanical bits.

>>45377163
Every DA successor has Angel in their title, they aren't very original

>>45377187
Not all of them.

Just thinking, shouldn't we pretty much entirely ignore the progenitor? Basically go full Blood Raven and say that nobody knows?

Our chapter, Founded in early M39 from the Gene Seed of the Ultramarines, founded to stop a prophecised threat to the Imperium. However, the normally stable Ultramarines gene seed had some terrible mutation, the secondary heart was made full of tumours and made worthless. In response, as well as developing their chapter around it, thye began to take the hearts of worthy foes and heavilt augment them with cybernetics, placing them in their breast to replace the heart they lost(in addition Neophytes eat their usesless secondary hearts to become scouts). we developed an extreme cult around these practices, and it only grew worse as time wore on. A few centurys after being founded, the current Master of sanctity tangled with a dreaded Daemon prince, who had killed the chapter master before him. In response, the Master of Sanctity tore out the Daemons heart, ripped open his own chest, and subsumed the heart into himself. Though his extreme piety fought and controlled the heart he alone could not hold it, and so he was placed in an honoured dreadnought sarcophagus to sustain his life. He was declared chapter master in addition to the master of sanctity. The chapter has a unique organsiaton, the Reclusiam, librarium and command are all merged, with every captain also being either a Librarian or Chaplain, they also do not field devastators as the heavy weapons are oft to ruin the hearts of even the strong. They specialize in terror, and every marine has a power fist and chainsword in addition to his bolter, with the terminators of the first company deftly wielding their chainfists.

Currently under strength after a vicious campaign, the chapter has been descending rapidly, as their chapter master must take more and more worthy hearts to consume and stop the pain of the daemon heart pounding in his chest, it has become the only way to sate it. They have no allies, and find the hearts of Orks most commonly stong.

THERE, SUMMARY, tell me if I got anything wrong

>>45377217
Looks fine to me

>>45377217
Purrfect

>>45377217
We need a reason for our chapter master to randomly rip open his own chest and jam a heart in there. What if the previous chapter master went traitor and became THE daemon prince, and the tradition is that the new chapter master always take the old one's primary heart as his secondary?

Ok boys, stay on topic.

First things first, we need a name

>>45377256
I like that.

>>45377256
Ok... but... there hasn't BEEN another Chapter master since then cause, Heart Taker(his title) is still in charge

>>45377256
>>45377284
These

>>45377256
That's actually pretty brilliant

>>45377256
Hubris.
If he had just waited for the heart to be augmented, it wouldn't have crippled him so.

>>45377298
We need a name for him now, I vote Corazón

What we have so far for the rest:

We are the Pector Vendicant; the heart claimers. Our chapter colours are red upon blue.
Our chapter motto:
ONE HEART Of THE PURE! ONE OF THE TAINTIED! WE CARRY BOTH IN OUR BREAST!

is this good for everybody?

>>45377256
OK so that is why, but the tradition has yet to happen again because HEart Taker is still chapter master.

GUYS! Chapter name! Lets get that!

>>45377324
His name, Corazon Heart Taker! Master of Sanctity and Chapter master!

>>45377332
The Pector Vendicant... YES

>>45377336
Cardium Mutarus
Change of Heart
D-D-D-DUEL!

>>45377336
What do you guys think about Ashardalon as the name for their homeworld

>>45377332
>>45377336
Not liking the Pector Vendicant very much...

>>45377114
The Red/Bloody/etc Maintainers?

>>45377390
This is good

>>45377353
Mr. Corazon wishes to fall in glorious combat someday soon, so that the next Chap Master can take his primary good heart and save his chapter from Inquisitorial Exterminatus.

>>45377390
This is ok
>>45377417
Ok not Pector Vendicant then, come on guys, lets get a name!

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>>45377150
I'm thinking something along the lines of this, maybe

>>45377420
I think he is WAY to unhinged by now to consider this, focused ONLY on sateing the Daemon heart in his chest, to stop the constant agony

>>45377420
He keeps sending the chapter into more and more brutal warzones in the hopes of dying, at the cost of many marines' lives.

>>45377456
Yes, but to get stronger hearts, not save his chapter. He is ESSENTIALY accidentally driving his chapter into the hands of Khorne

>>45377430
The Cardinal Knights?
Cardinal means primary or pivotal, like a human needs his heart.
>>45377456
Which is why they're understrength?

>>45377473
That's what I was thinking. I like the name too.

>>45377074
Cor IS the organ, or all my medical education has been for shit.

(it was anyway, but whatever)

The Cardinal Knights/Proctors/ whatevr we name them, are under strenth because chapter master Corazon continuously throws into more and more brutal combat zones, intent on getting ever stronger hearts. This is why they are at about half strength

>>45377473
>>45377494
Cardinal is spot on... we could just go with Cardinal Hearts?

>>45377473
Cardinal Knights is perfect.

>>45377217

>>45377440
Pretty neato periwinkle. I feel like the red arms are a bit much. How are that supposed to show off how bloody their hands are when they rip out hearts?

I think Cardinal Knights, yes, we have our name.

The Cardinal Knights
ONe HEART OF THE PURE! ONE OF THE TAINTED! WE CARRY BOTH IN OUR BREASTS!

>>45377520
I'd keep it at breast, singular.

>>45377534
RIGHT TYPO!

>>45377534
kek'd

>>45377534
I feel like breast is just going to make people think of boobs. Just chest maybe?

The Iron Hearts, to suggest something easy?
Or even Brass Hearts?

Also what about the slain Daemon Prince being the one who originally corrupted the Gene Seed?

>>45377520
wouldn't chest be better than breast?

>>45377440
>>45377517
I agree. I also think we should invert some of the colors. The trims should be blue, like how veins are blue through the skin.

>>45377517
Away from my computer now someone else will have to fix it

>>45377560
Your a bit behind, and Ithink we already have a name. We decided the prince was their former chapter master

>>45377555
Considering the context, I'd assume people would know which instance of breast is being used.

>>45377560
No, that won't do. We may be a young chapter but that will fuck up half the lore.

>>45377572
SO many chapters than have red as primary though. If the nightlords can have lightning bolts, why don't we have gold veins painted on to show how LOYAL AND PURE we are? Every spehss mahreen needs gold.

Ok, with the name and motto done, and colors being workshopped

Whats the chapter badge?

>>45377619
A heart.

>>45377623
... more specific...

>>45377619
Will begin drawing now.

>>45377619
A fist holding a heart

>>45377638
A DRAWFRIEND???? YES!!!

>>45377639
Das ist gut.

OK, with those things being worked on(colors and badge), lets discuss our chapter master

What is his dreadnought loadout? Ifeel like he should have a custom dreadnought weapon of somekind... ideas?

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Attempting a different color scheme here.

>>45377749
Joe do you give him different weapons? I could never find an option for it on B&C.

>>45377780
That'd be how, not joe.

>>45377749
Ilike this personally, anyone else? Criticisms? I like... now all we need is that heart in fist chapter badge

>>45377780
There's a newer version. It's still in beta though.
If anyone wants to try:

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/smpbeta.php

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>>45377749
I made a mistake, power fist should be blue.
That way you can see it get nice and bloody.

>>45377839
Nice

come on guys, Corazon, what is special about his dreadnought? I think he needs to have 2 unique close combat weapons, suggestions?

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since we're just talking colour schemes at the moment heres my take on it, the red/blue would be metallic but you can't get that sort of effect on that program

>>45377877
Well, he already has a heart so he doesn't need to extract any more...
How about some kind of power glaive like on the furioso dreadnoughts so he can slice and dice limbs without damaging their hearts so his battle-brothers can use them if they need?

>>45377877
Perhaps a dreadnaught sized evicerator?
It would be kind of strange to have him hold it, but still... two-handed chain sword.

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Should have mentioned im not a real drawfriend, so someone should re do these

>>45377930
I like this cause... It would be fucking MASSIVE and awesome... It'd be weird but... I'm game
>>45377915
I actually like this scheme alot more, I like that it is alot darker

>>45377923
That's given me a mental image of the chapters apothecaries with scalpels (probably attached to finger tips) and surgical masks (or atleast power armor that doesn't have a mouth) looming over some poor bastard, taking out the heart cleanly then just walking away.

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Other idea

>>45377952
Yea... and their should be blood flowing down the hand....
>>45377973
I mean... cut it up and make it bleed aand I'd be ok with this... I just feel like a hand gripping it makes more sense

>>45377967
Fuck that guy, the chapter needed it more

>>45377923
You can do this with a giant eviscerator too..

>>45377967
A few days after they rek a WAAAGH!!!, the warboss wakes up in a bathtub full of ice and finds a note that says "find a pain boy"

>>45377915
>>45377960
I like the scheme, but shouldn't the blue be a tiiiiny bit brighter.

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>>45378018

>>45378023
I like that it is so dark... I mean they don't need to be EXACTLY like hearts

>>45377952
>>45377973
>>45377985
Can't these two be combined?
A big gauntlet, squeezing a bloody heart with either gears behind it or coming out of the heart.

>>45378018
toppest of keks

>>45378097
But since the red and blue are derived from the human heart, I feel like it should match those shades of red and blue.

>>45378116
Yes we should combine them!

I don't think we need to take the heart thing to far to make the color scheme worse, and Ithink the darker stuff looks WAy cooler

>>45378116
I don't think we need to be too literal with the colour scheme, as long as it's red and blue to some degree there's no point fussing over the exact shade

>>45378170
Yea see? I feel like the darker variety just looks better! In the end, the thread ecides, but its my humble opinion

>>45377915
Maybe swap the sides the colours are on to make it more like >>45377150?

>>45378191
i'm the anon who did the darker scheme first, and that brighter variant and I agree with you, I prefer the darker look

So are we giving the chapter master a massive eviscerator or what?

>>45378211
>>45378191
>>45378190
>>45378116
The opinion seems to be generally the darker scheme is superior, so we will go with it. Some one should probably make a 1d4chan page to sit while we fluff the Cardinal knights here

>>45377839
I like this, it's a lot better than mine (the first one)

>>45377839
>>45377915
>>45378229
>>45378235
We could combine them? Take the first one, but with darker colors?

>>45378260
hmmm... I say try it I guess but I REALLY like the half and half alot

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>>45378260
Sure, why not, I prefer the light blue, but I seem to be in the minority

>>45377324
Kano.

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and heres the half and half scheme but the opposite way round

>>45378307
The heart is on the left side of the body, so I'd go with this. The blue can signify their augmetics as well as fit the heart look.

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>>45378270
Gave it a shot

>>45378359
I'm a fan of the half and half still. But thread? Opinioin?

>>45378370
having feet a different colour to the legs is a pet peeve of mine.
I prefer the half and half one, it's more visually pleasing to me.

>>45378359
Why the black pauldrons?

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>>45378359
I don't like the pauldron colour but other than that, great job

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>>45378408
>>45378393
>>45378402
alright, last one

I still like the half and half honestly, and I also liked the black pauldrons on the half and half. Thread?

>>45378465
we could just have it so different companies in the chapter have a different scheme, some opting for the half and half and some the other scheme

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>>45378444
This one gets my vote

I'm off to the gym, someone should probably archive this thread and/or create a 1d4chan article.

(Not OP btw)

>>45378490
Certainly an interesting Idea, but i imagine that could get confusing in the midst of battle. Idon;t know, I have casted my vote. Once I see a general consensus I can declare a winner

>>45378542
buddy of mine just made a page... nothing on it but it exists

GUYS THREAd, come on! We need a vote on color scheme

this>>45378444
or this>>45378307

>>45378444
this

>>45376642
They should have stayed Dark Angels.

>>45378628
This >>45378307

This >>45378307

>>45378628
This >>45378444

>>45378307
This

That half and half with black pauldrons is the winner, but just barely

Alright guys what fluff is next? We have colors, and badge, and special weps. What should we discuss next?

Btw anyone feel free to add fluff, be it writefaggotry, short blurbs, special characters or just short stories here

On the subject of Custom Chapters/Legions, I had a brilliant idea:

>Vibrant Gardners
>Salamander Renegades that were turned into living multicolored fire within their armor by the energies of a Demon Star.
>Turns out they are actually a Nurglite Warband that symbolizes the fact that death and decay can create something beautiful.
>Anything burned by their flames explodes out of its blackened shell as brilliant multicolored plant-fungi that are utterly lethal and virulent to anyone not blessed by Grandfather Nurgle.
>They have a Cult associated with them called the Cult of the Deadly Bower who, despite being the healthiest Nurgle Cult in existence, grows at an exponential rate due to their sale of 'Healing Draughts' that cure any ailment at cost of 'Your soul belongs to Nurgle now, but if you are good boy he'll reward you by making sure your soul grows into something beautiful in his garden, have fun.'
>Also Beasts of Nurgle love them, they find the Fungi the Marines leave behind delicious, and the members of the Legion and Cult are just really nice to them.

>>45379224
... I uhm... how... in what way does this apply to the Cardinal knights?

>>45379244
It doesn't, I just thought it was a good idea to talk about it, shows how much I know. I'll just leave now, sorry.

... ooooooooook, moving right along

We should discuss some other important characters, like are there any captains or others worried about the chapters direction? I mean, Corazon has led them for nigh on 3 millenia at this point and they haven't fallen yet... but they are dangerously close. Like, are the common battle brothers acting more like berserkers at this point?

>>45379315
>... ooooooooook
Who let the Jokaero out of his cage? I swear that stupid monkey gets everywhere.

>And it was in this moment that anon realized he fucked up

>>45379315
we need a head apothecary.
Maybe he's incredibly old, even by marine standards , probably originally from the Ultramarines, came over when the chapter was formed.
Since he was originally an ultramarine he did have a working second heart, this has long since been replaced by mechanical one of his own creation after very nearly getting killed by some sort of Tyranid.

>>45379315
The Blood Angels and successors probably see their great potential to fall, much like the Flesh Tearers.

>>45379444
This is cool, let's expand on him!

>>45379461
Think they are actively watching the Cardinal Knights? Think they intend to pit them and the flesh teasers against one another? Let the dangerous and possibly soon to be renegades destroy eachother? That could be interesting

>>45379508
>flesh teasers
What do they spend all day taunting guardsmen?

>>45379315
Idea.

Chapter is indeed leaning more towards Berserkers as a result of a lack of true leadership since their Master of Sanctity being in his Sarcophagus for so long. A handful Marine Captains in the chapter have felt this and began to assert themselves as more of a figure head to their troops, essentially taking the role of Master of Sanctity in their minds. Some of the Captains do this simply because they want the power that comes with troops being more loyal to them but others truly are trying to save the chapter from devolving into nothing more than berserker brutes.

Perhaps a few Captains don't like this and want to stay more true to their orignal master. So they're currently in a state where they all still work together but at the same time dealing with the issue of what to do about the chapter.

A character I had in mind was Threld, a Captain who has taken many hearts and is one of the of the ones who is in favor of reforming the chapter in senescence of an active Master of Sanctity.

Thoughts?

>>45379606
I love it! Expand on him! Which company does he lead? Is he a captain/librarian or captain/chaplain? Does he use the powerfist/chainsword combo most marines use? Something else?

>>45379742
not the guy who came up with him but I like the idea of him using a shock maul, or some sort of big weapon thats used for stunning and then he gets all "rip and tear" using his hands maybe.
I see him more of a chaplain than librarian

>>45379884

I'm the guy and I agree that he's more of a Chaplain but he's more renowned with a bloter rifle that melee. He supresses threats to his brothers that charge in with their melee armaments and then when they need him or there are no threats that could counter the melee fighters he jumps int the fray with his melee weapon.

He cares a lot about his brothers and even though he isn't a hulking brute as some other Captains might be he's known to be more tactical and wise in how he engages the enemy. He's a tough guy with slightly more brain than brawn. But just slightly.

>>45379222
Alma Escura, the chapter master that turned into a deamon prince, he'd been leading the chapter for some 3 centuries before he started to hear a voice in his head, telling him to seek out certain hearts, giving him advice that always lead to victory. Little did he know that the voice was in fact a deamon of Khorne, who planned not only to use the chapter to allow him to enter reality once more, but also turn them into his own personal Astartes.

For over 40 years he guided them, pointing Escura in the directions that would benefit him and his lord, and after a while, began to slowly enter into the body of the chapter master, waiting for its moment to emerge, and drinking in the souls of those slain by the chapter.

Not all within the chapter however where convinced of the purity of their goals. Chaplain Corazón in particular, found the battles the chapter fought in to be interesting, and so began to try and find a pattern within their deployments. He noticed certain things in his research.

He noticed how the chapter would go to worlds that didn't seem to need aid, only for them to arrive just in time for them to meet some foe of the Imperium and catch them unawares, leaving them easy pickings for the chapter.

He noticed how, though they did battle with the numerous agents of chaos, very rarely did they face the servants of the Blood God, and when they did, it seemed to be only when others were in need of there aid to finish off the minions of Khorne.

He noticed how their chapter master had grown in combat prowess, how none could match him in the sparring cages, how no foe seemed to be able to do much but slow him down on the field of battle, and how he had recently taken to drinking the blood of his vanquished foes.

>>45380070
He noticed how many times the number eight came up in battle reports, be they numbers of guard regiments they fought beside, the total number of troops they deployed or even the total death toll.

He noticed the patterns the chapters deployments seemed to make, patterns that looked unusual to Corazón.

He saw all these things, things that may just be coincidences, but if the Chaplain knew one thing it was this: coincidences take a lot of planning.

And so he began to seek out other brothers in important posistions who where uneasy about the chapters victories, Epistolary Via, who had felt something prodding at his mind for some time now, Techmarine Cámaras, who had become concerned by the ins ructions he was given regarding the hearts meant for Escura and his closes subordinates, and Chief Apothecary Sangue, the oldest member of the chapter, who was troubled by the refusal of some of their brother to allow their gene-seeds to be tested,and the chapter masters refusal to allow him to force them to submit to testing.

With these members of the chapter wih him Corazón began to find those he deemed loyal to the chapter, and began to plan the downfall of the man he now believed to be in the clutches of Chaos.

>>45380086
Working on the third bit now, feel free to jump in if you have any ideas (or have any corrections)

>>45380086
Great idea. It would be awesome to have achapter of Chaos Marines that have been mutated/empowered by Deamon hearts. Or maybe they don't turn into chaos space marines but are viewed as slightly heretical by other chapters.

>>45380070
>>45380086
Glad someone is doing this bit of fluff! Really helps expand the chapter! Nice going man! I'm hopefully gonna get some writefaggotry up a bit later

I also need to format/expand the 1d4chan page obviously

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>>45378307
Can you do this one with a powerfist?

>>45380629
Nothing to see here, just some Ultramarine Successors working out their Chapter's history.

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>>45380700

Editing 1d4chan page, what are the EXACT colors of this>>45380747?

>>45380901
using the B&C painter;
red is #C92222
blue is #474A7D

Bump

Add some fluff brothers!!

>>45381381
Soon anon

>>45381381
Almost done with a big block of text.

How much do we have on their homeworld, Ashardalon?
We know it's a civilized ice world, but did we come up with anything else?

>>45381606
Nope, we need to do that, so you can start if you have an idea

Threald Grislom, Chaplain Captain of the Cardinal Knights 4th company "The War Hearts". In these difficult times of being without an active Master of Sanctity many of the companies have began to devolve into berserker tactics in order to satisfy their bloodlust and take more hearts from worthy enemies, while some have found success with this other companies have began to suffer more casualties than usual in their pursuit of powerful hearts. The original Captain of the 4th company, Librarian Captain Solomar Caldius, led the company through many pursuits of powerful Ork hearts. During one of his crusades against an Ork colony the company was ambushed and flanked from the south by a squad of Ork meks. Rather than attempting to destroy the meks Captain Solomar saw opportunity to conquer yet another powerful Ork hearts. He rallied many of the marines near him and sent them with him on a zealous charge on the largest mek in the Ork squad. Threld, serving as his company's Champion at the time. Was left to defend him and his marine brothers against the flank to the north. It was a savage fight , suffering many casualties as they were outnumbered by the Ork shootas . Threld and the surviving marines regrouped and looked to the south to see that Captain Solomar and the men he led in the charge had either been killed or broken ranks. The Ork Mekz now had no other target than Threld and his men. As they approached it was clear that the Orkz hadn’t come out of the battle undamaged, many of their squads lacked men and their meks showed signs of damage. As the largest Ork Mek approached Threld could see Solomar’s body hanging from a piece of metal on the Mek. Faced with this threat Threld acted quickly, leaving no time for his marine brothers to panic he began ordering them into positions and to prepare to defend to the last man.

>>45381763
The Ork horde approached and he shouted to his brothers “Hold! Remember! Their flesh is weak! They merely shell themselves with metal, but our hearts beat with it! They may have warmachines, but remember brothers we have the purity of the machine WITHIN US! TRUST IN YOUR MECHANICAL BEATING AND IT WILL NEVER FALTER!” The ensuing fight was carnage, the Ork infantry never seemed to thin as the Cardinal Knights fired at them with their bolter pistols. Eventually Time had run out and the Orkz were in charging range. Threld stood in the middle of his men as they met the Ork stampede, their powerfists and chainswords plunging into green flesh. Threld stood amongst his men and covered the front lines with Bolter Rifle fire. The battle required many tactical fallbacks and regrouping but by the end only a handful of Ork stragglers remained. Most of the company had been defeated in the fight but the most hardened of the men still stood. Threld looked around the dead Marines, and then to the dead Captain’s body. He walked over to it and with his powerfist extracted Solomar Caldius’ original heart. In that moment Threld despised the man for destroying the company, but he knew that Solomar was regardless a great warrior and had taken many hearts in the field. Threld was made Chaplain Captain since he was the highest ranked survivor and put Solomar’s heart in his chest, as a way to honor the Company's past.

>>45381804
Once he was officially the leader of company he learned just how widespread the devolution of the Chapter was. Many Companies daily losses were in the hundreds or thousands. Threld decided he would be apart of the reformation to save the chapter from wiping itself out with ineffective and overzealous tactics. He was one of the first Captains to begin asserting himself to his company as their true commanding officer, in order to build morale and a better company attitude. Quickly he took the 4th company from zealous suicidal berserkers to well disciplined disciples of the machine. He appointed much of his command squad from the survivors of Solomar’s defeat and titled the “The Black Hearts” each of his command squad is trained to hold ranks among the mean and act as sub captains during battle.

>>45381822
>>45381804
>>45381763
beautiful, anon

>>45381606
>>45381625
Do we want to take our recruits from Ashardalon directly, or should we recruit from another (less civilized) planet?

>>45380086
Unbeknownst to Corazón however, the deamon's plan was reaching its endgame. Alma Escura announced a great celebration was to be had to commemorate 48 years of glorious victoris. Each side, unknowingly, had were planning to reveal their hands at this gathering.

At the hight of festival, Escura stood to make a speech. He spoke of the battles they had fought, the hearts they had taken, and the glories they had won, most of them alone. Alone, he spoke, because that was how the chapter was best, away from the Imperial Guard, away from other Space Marines, away from the Imperium entirely. And what thanks, he asked, had they gotten for these acts. None. Sure, the world's they battled on where grateful, but what could they offer ones as strong as they where, what could anyone in the Imperium offer them, really? The Imperium was dying, and why should they fight for the losing side, when their were other causes they could serve, with masters that would have greater rewards, gifts fitting of warriors of their standards. It was then that Corazón spoke up.

>>45381999
I vote directly. More pure and devout disciples that way.

>>45382026
He stood and questioned who Escura masters where, what these gifts they could give them where, and just how he came to know of them. When no awnser came, he pushed onwards, throwing all the evidence he had gathered in his eight years of research out into the open. He demanded that Alma Escura awnser him one question, why did he secretly collect the skulls of his enemies? Corazón declared there was only one reason he would do so, that he served the Chaos God Khorne. The Chaplain decried that the chapter master of the Cardinal Knights was a heretic, a traitor and a willing deamonhost. He gave the assembled marines an ultimatum; stand with this villian and sell their souls to Chaos, or side with him and strike down this traitor to the chapter and The Imperium. The response was instantaneous.
Brother turned on brother as the feasting hall desensitise into anarchy. What struck Corazón was the number who fought in his favour out-weighted thode who turned the back on all they had stood for. Seeing what he had caused, the Chaplain raised his Crozius and charged his former chapter master. But the deamon, fearing it's host would perish here, choose this moment to ascend. Though their spirits may have merged long ago, it was only now that they fused in body. The traitor's form warped and twisted into a Champion of Khorne, a form Escura felt could finally allow him to feast on all the blood and hearts he could want. But Corazón would not allow this heresy to continue.

Though a lesser man may have balked at the sight of this beast, the Chaplain was consumed with a fervour unlike any other. Though the deamon was far stronger, it was still in a new body, and this was an advantage that could be used. The battle only lasted minuets, but it felt longer to Corazón, who pushed his body beyond what even he though he was capable of as he duel with this beast of the Blood God.

>>45382055
Finally the creature grabbed him, crushing his torso as it did, and lifted him into the air. The thing laughed, and said that the Chaplain had picked the wrong side, that he should have sided with Chaos, and how he was fighting for a dead master in a dying empire. And it was in this moment of gloating that Corazón struck.

Activating the device that Via and Cámaras had created, he watched as the former chapter master stagger back, brought low by the null-field projector they had created. Broken, with both hearts punctured, Corazón knew what he had to do. He got to his feet staggered over to the deamon, and plunged his power fist into the foul creatures chest, ripping out the things still beating heart. He took the organ, ripped it free from the tubes connecting it to Escura body and with his other hand, struck the beast with his Crozius in the head, killing the weaken creature as the null-field had sapped most of its strength. Now can the tricky part.

Taking his weapon he cut a great rip in his chest and force the demonic organ in to the hole it created, knowing that with both his hearts ruptured, he had moments to live otherwise.

The heart seemed to squeeze itself into the hole, as though eager to take hold of the Chaplain. With his foe slain and his prize taken, Puro Corazón allowed himself to fall into the blackness of unconsciousness.

>>45382073
Fuck that took longer than expected, sorry for anyone who cared about this.

>>45381999
maybe even though it's a civilized world there are still nomads/tribals out in the tundra. Once every X years the marines drop in during the night and take most of the children as potential recruits and/or new chapter serfs. It's not uncommon for these tribes to be wiped out by this, as a result they really hate the long nights in the winter(well more wintery) none of the abducted are heard from again by their families.

>>45382104
Excellent flavor. And what if occasionally one of the tribes (Or a few of them working together) try to mount an attack. This is seen a great opportunity to harvest hearts from powerful enemies as the tribals would have to be pretty strong/brave to event consider attacking the Marines but also weak enough that they're not a true threat.

>>45382171
"Oh my the nomads are getting rowdy again, send out the neophytes, this will be good practice for them."
I can see something like that happening

>>45382258
"Bring their children and the hearts of their warriors."

bumpin

>>45375594
this is fucking amazing guys keep on going

Is there anything else to establish aside from fluff characters and whatnot? We should decide on at least a vague timeline.

>>45382849
Good idea, what date EXACTLY were we founded?

The Cardinal Knights are now a part of my Dark Heresy setting, and will be subjected to an inquest at the hands of my acolytes.

>>45382873
39th millennium due to the use of prophecy or something is what we rolled.

>>45382896
PLEASE! POST THE RESULTS! I want to see how this turns out

>>45382912
Anyone want to expand on the prophecy that brought the Cardinal Knights into being?

>>45382920
I'm kind of anxious, as it's our first session assembled of random fa/tg/uys, and two of them are new to the system and 40k lore. Running them for our first game is probably a really bad idea.

>>45382961
For the new people just make sure they understand that there is no "good" guys, only those who are evil fascist and genocidal, and those who are even worse.

>>45382939
So according to my rough outline we have

>Founded in 39th Millennium

>Original Chapter Master, Alma Escura, took the heart of a Daemon cause he wanted more power faster which is what caused his downfall >>45377298

>Chaplain Captain Corazón defeats him using a device constructed by Via and Cámaras and puts the demon heart in himself >>45382073

>Corazón becomes the new Chapter Master and gains title "Heart Taker" and either immediately is put into the Sarcophagus or after his state deteriorates

>Chapter begins devolving into overly zealous berserkers that get themselves killed.

>Eventually certain Captains begin reforming their companies using themselves as a more active leader over the Master of Sanctity. Some do this because they want to save the chapter other want more loyal marines for personal gain. Some more fundamentalists marines don't like this and want to only recognize the chapter master.

The rest that has been typed out is fluff

>>45382939
Not well versed enough in the lore to write the prophecy

Ashardalon, located in the Segmentum Ultima near rhe Dominion of Storms, is a civilized ice planet.

Prior to it's rediscovery in M36 the people of Ashardalon were split between the barbaric nomad tribes and the city folk, who possessed technology on a level similar to late M2 Terra.
All of the planet's cities were situated around Ashardalon's equator, as only there could the planet's temperature be considered pleasant. The tribesmen had learned to deal with the lower temperatures and roamed the planet's tundras a glaciers.
To this day there is great distrust between the citydwellers and the nomadic tribes, with the civilized Imperial citizens believing the barbarians to be 'impure' and with the nomads believing the city folk to be foul sorcerers.

After their planet's rediscovery, life for the city folk has been relatively comfortable for the 41st millenium. They are not very likely to be eaten by a verocious predator of die from an infection. For the barbarians not much changed.
The civilized people had no interest in sharing their newfound tech with what they percieved to be brutal savages.and thus the barbarians stick to their nomadic ways.

While the exact culture of the tribes is different from one to the next, certain beliefs are held by almost all. Even with their rudimentary understanding of the human body, they understand the importance of the heart.
It pumps blood through their body and it is the heart that makes sure their bodies don't freeze. As such, a lot of the tribals' religious ceremonies involve the drinking and bathing in blood as well as the eating or stabbing of hearts, both human and beast.

>>45383474
When the prophecies leading up to the founding of the chapter were done and a homeworld for the new chapter was chosen, it quickly became obvious the the citydwellers would not provide the appropriate neophytes requires to create proper Astartes.
Yet the Imperial citizens would not knowingly except the elevation of the barbarians into the ranks of the Astartes. As such, the recruitment process is largely done in secret.

Singular marines are sent out into the cold wastelands. There they observe hunters and warriors, looking for the strongest tribes. Then speak to the tribes' leaders, stirring up feelings of anger and displeasure,manipulating the tribes into sending their warriors to attack the cities.
While the attacks are always stopped before they deal significant damage, those barbarian warriors that are deemed worthy are then taken by the Cardinal Knights to become Space Marines.

[Thoughts?]

Thread archived here:

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/45375594/

>>45383484
Sounds good. Just be sure to include the marines come in the night to kidnap tribals evry so often.

Is someone still editing the 1d4 page?

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Cardinal_Knights

>>45383634
YEs I am continuously working on it slowly, feel free to edit in approved things

I am making a new thread now for further fluff and discussion

New thread
>>45383688

>>45383484
>>45383474
These are awesome

Ok everyone, if you intend to help out fluff please move to the new thread, as this one will soon close itself