>>44687770
For house and dominion!
incidentally, how are we paying the warlord mercs?
if its in Aries production licenses I will laugh.

>>44687770
For nav relay and salvage!

>>44687871
Yeah, once open hostilities in our relay have ceased, we really need to check our finances.

>>44687770
For House and Dominion early-in-the-day-edition-for-some!

>>44687871
Well we will have a bunch salvage of lesser good ships we can give them. Old style Corvettes are still worth at lest like 2 millions or so. Maybe not as much damaged. And if it comes down to it then we got other salvage we can give them. Perhaps even some Assault Corvettes since we produce those.

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Your ground attack craft have been reinforced with squadrons of Burlock Heavy Fighters to better support planetary assaults. With its larger weapon mounts the pilots certainly won't lack for options when it comes to alternate ground attack stores.

Fadila Saqqaf is your leading diplomatic adviser. Assigned by the Earl after your request for a team more experienced in the intricacies of inter-house relations, she's been a welcome addition. She and her team have done considerable work in cementing the position of the Run Alliance in the relay.
With those allies you've been able to rally a fleet large enough to help challenge House Nasidum and hopefully end their attacks.

Your fleet, including the Super Heavy Cruiser Forbearance, have entered the Magdalena system in pursuit of the Nasidum main fleet and their heavy cruiser.

You give the order to engage at long range, the more powerful guns on Forbearance and your Mediums should give you an advantage at that distance and let you control how the engagement shapes up. The only downside is that this could take some time, but with Warlord Mercenaries inbound time will only help you.

Starfighters from the planet's surface have entered orbit while more are still launching. Do you want your own fighters to intercept them before they can get within range of your capital ships? Or would you rather move up some of your point defense equipped starships?
Something else?

>>44688043
Send in Intercepting Fighteres to meet the approaching enemy Fighters and skirmish with them. Set up Point defense ships in a second line close to the fleet in case some slip by with Fighters to support them as well.

Just keep hammering the enemy. Also send a wing of Corvettes to support the Mixed unit up to the left that is raiding.

>>44688036
I would guess assault corvettes aren't that desirable for them because they're really shitty at multitasking, and mercs will likely have to deal with a wide variety of non-combat task, which assault corvettes suck at. We have several perfectly viable frigate types in production, and older AC/BCs as well. I'm sure we'll be able to find something for them

>>44688043
>Or would you rather move up some of your point defense equipped starships?
Both?

>Something else?
Can the warlord ships jump in at a point that won't put the planet in line of their scrap cannon shots?

>Something completely different
A couple of threads ago I asked if we can have the dusk ac modified but only came up with putting LD plasma cannons or a cloak on it.

I've reread some stuff on suptg, and now I'm curious if we can make the hull wider, longer, then throw some more engines on it, and then jam a spinal medium plasma cannon in. Just like we did with the ac the great devourer is based on.

>>44688043
Have the heavy guns target the sole remaining medium first. It should already be damaged anyway and will fall faster than the heavy.
How big a merc fleet did we hire incidentally?

>>44688135
>I've reread some stuff on suptg, and now I'm curious if we can make the hull wider, longer, then throw some more engines on it, and then jam a spinal medium plasma cannon in. Just like we did with the ac the great devourer is based on.
no.

>>44688180
o-okay...

>>44688157
Personally I say we should target the Carriers first and foremost. They carry munitions for the enemy Fighters and since we are not going to approach until we get reinforced they are going to do the main fighting. Take out the enemy Carriers and they lose critical battle logistics.

Also I would like to enjoy to capture that Medium somewhat intact and not slagged into a lump of molten metal.

Also perhaps we could also send two of the AB squadrons to strife the lone station? Don't want enemy forces to regroup there with damaged wing and the more forces we take away from their main fleet the more vulnerable their Heavy becomes.

>>44688043
>Something else?
Send one of the slightly damaged wings on the left side to mirco jump to the mixed wing already engaged near the station. For support.

>>44688234
>Personally I say we should target the Carriers first and foremost. They carry munitions for the enemy Fighters and since we are not going to approach until we get reinforced they are going to do the main fighting. Take out the enemy Carriers and they lose critical battle logistics.
Problem is that they can rearm from other stations and ground bases anyway, and we don't have a clear shot at that carrier anyway.
>>44688223
Medium plasma canons are battleship mounts usually. The GD is the only battlecruiser that carries one.

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>>44687871
>incidentally, how are we paying the warlord mercs?
It was to be largely in salvage, materials and production equipment to be taken from House Bonrah. It was based on the assumption you'd be fighting House Bonrah by now.

>>44688084
>Send in Intercepting Fighteres to meet the approaching enemy Fighters and skirmish with them. Set up Point defense ships in a second line close to the fleet in case some slip by with Fighters to support them as well.
Like this?

>>44688135
>Both?
ok.
>Can the warlord ships jump in at a point that won't put the planet in line of their scrap cannon shots?
On the flank? Sure.

>Dusk mod [...] make the hull wider, longer, then throw some more engines on it, and then jam a spinal medium plasma cannon in. Just like we did with the ac the great devourer is based on.
At that point you'll be designing a new Battlecruiser with as many parts as possible from the Dusk class. Its performance will not be near that of an attack cruiser.
It could probably be designed in a year or more since they don't have an existing battlecruiser scale hull to go off of like the Devourer did. Thats assuming the Dusk redesign team were the ones working on it.

The evacuated Shallan design team has been moved to one of the Republic Relays for protection from the civil war. They lack experience with the existing Shallan battlecruiser design, having been specialized in attack cruisers.

>>44688157
The Warlords generally operate their super heavies in pairs so that they can tow the other out if one takes damage. He was supposed to have sent two plus their escort.

>>44688234
>>44688255
1 assault wing to assist Mixed raider wing.
1-2 afterburner squadrons strafe other station
Sound good?

>>44688366
>It could probably be designed in a year or more since they don't have an existing battlecruiser scale hull to go off of like the Devourer did.
Thanks, I guess I'll have to come up with some AC sized instead.

>Sound good?
I'm not really sure if raiding the remaining station is worth it, as we'll need it once the planet has fallen. If they can limit the damage mostly to the turrets, I'd be okay with it.

>It was based on the assumption you'd be fighting House Bonrah by now.
Is the fighting in the sectors around winifred's planet still going on?

>>44688234
Forbearance siege weapon targeting priority. Which ones do you want to focus on to start off with? Splitting your focus will increase the time it takes to batter down the shields on some targets.

From largest to smallest:

Planet
Station(s)
Heavy Cruiser
Medium Cruiser
Transports
Battleships
Carriers
Smaller (reduced chance to hit)

>>44688514
>Heavy Cruiser
>Medium Cruiser
>Battleships
>Carriers
Everything else.

>>44688514
If the enemy doesn't suddenly start closing in:
>1. Carriers
>2. Battleships
>3. Medium Cruiser
>4. Heavy Cruiser

>>44688550
Splitting your focus between all of those.

>>44688556
Focus down each of those in turn until they're dead?

>>44688659
Just the main four. The everything else is if we somehow destroy or disable the big threats ith few casualties.

>>44688659
>Focus down each of those in turn until they're dead?
Yeah, it should be a rough priority list. Our commanders are skilled enough to take care of targets of opportunity or switch prioritites when it's necessary.

>>44688550
>>44688556

Can we get a tie breaker anyone?

>>44688867
>>44688556
Well go with his to break the tie.

>>44688556
>>44688867
Work no longer has me busy. Supporting this priority order.

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"Begin long range bombardment, but mind the planetary shields. Coms, broadcast a request for their surrender. If they're willing to discuss terms we'll at least listen.
Contact our inbound mercenaries, I want them jumping in where they can flank the main Nasidum fleet and not have to worry about hitting the planet with their siege weapons."

"Aye sir!"

As the fleet opens fire from range you have Tama deploy an interceptor screen ahead of the fleet to keep bombers from getting within torpedo range. A second line consisting of point defense equipped starships will help support them.

One of the afterburner units and an assault wing each micro jump out to harass the other stations and help allies. Witht he arrival of another wing to assist the mixed unit turns back to face their adversaries, who retreat towards the station they'd launched from.

The afterburner squadron performs a quick hit and run, doing minimal damage but forcing the station to deploy its defenses, mostly starfighters.

As your fleet focuses their fire on the Carrier it makes a run for the cover of the station, just barely evading the larger shots from Forbearance. It takes cover behind the Heavy Cruiser long enough for its shields to recharge then continues its run. It's badly damaged from heavy phase cannon fire by the time it reaches safety but isn't dead yet.

The Nasidum fleet shifts towards the station to make use of its shields as the Battleships come under fire. ECM is making accurate torpedo strikes difficult but not impossible. Battleships are dying but slowly.

"They're turning turtle." Tama warns. "Recommend reserving torpedoes for volleys against the larger ships until we have ECCM resources or fighters in closer to guide them to their targets."

Additional enemy ships have begun to arrive, the first of which is the patrol group that had previously been making runs along the main trade lane. They're running for the main station but they could turn suddenly towards your second point defense line.

"Report from the Ruling House. Nasidum ships are breaking off fighting on the front lines and headed here. Friendly units are pursuing them."

Your allies should be arriving around the same time as the rest.

Do you want to do anything about the recently arrived enemy patrol unit on your right flank?

>>44690131
Hit them with a fighter volley. Shift the heavy guns to target the remaining medium.

>>44690103
>Do you want to do anything about the recently arrived enemy patrol unit on your right flank?
Send 2 AB squads, and the 3x elite wings + any of the BCR/BB squads on that side to intercept if they're fast enough.

Make sure they're keeping an eye on the attack starfighters.

>CV
>time it reaches safety but isn't dead yet.
That's okay a damaged CV that can't resupply the fighters is as good as a dead one. Probably even better because the repair bill will be less severe.

>>44690255
>That's okay a damaged CV that can't resupply the fighters is as good as a dead one
They can still use all of the stations

>>44690366
And the planet.
It's mostly about reducing their capacities to swiftly replace losses, rearm, or refuel.

>>44690103
>the Carrier
>singular carrier
Is it a Talos?

>Mass driver turrets on the station
How do these compare to phase or plasma cannons?

>>44690131
Hit them hard.
3 BC squadrons.
1 Medium
2 Wings
1 AB squadron

We need to take them out hard to preserve our temporary advantage.

>>44690428
>Is it a Talos?
That would be a heavy carrier. probably just a bog standard dominion carrier
>>44690223
I agree with the revised targeting priority. Mediums and up are the only ones who have the sort of long range guns for this sort of duel, so taking out their medium is smart tactics.

>>44690223
Shifting our fighters around at this point doesn't seem particularly smart.

>>44690428
>Is it a Talos?
No, a Talos heavy carrier is the size of a heavy cruiser and thus all of your weapons fire would have been able to hit it. It would not have have been able to evade using trajectory analysis.

>Mass driver turrets on the station
>How do these compare to phase or plasma cannons?
Inferior in almost every way but a problem if you lose shields. Right now they're targeting the Forbearance. They could lob torpedo warheads which could be a problem.

>>44690223
>Hit them with a fighter volley.
You do still have your bombers which haven't launched so its certainly doable.

>>44690255
>2 AB squads, and the 3x elite wings + any of the BCR/BB squads on that side to intercep

>>44690504
>Hit them hard.
>3 BC squadrons.
>1 Medium
>2 Wings
>1 AB squadron

These two seem to be largely in agreement except for the Medium. A force will break off from the right flank and engage the patrol unit. Is this ok?

>>44690844
Yes. Is the RH providing us with data on the incoming Nasidum forces? Their ETA? Strength? Composition?

>>44690844
>These two seem to be largely in agreement except for the Medium. A force will break off from the right flank and engage the patrol unit. Is this ok?
Okay. And hammer the medium to chew down the long range fire.

>>44690844
It is okay.

I wonder if Nasidum will try to move on us now. If they did then that would be great. We could pull back towards the enemy patrol and pull their fleet entirely out of it's safer position and make it all that more squishy for when the SRL forces arrive.

>>44690888
I agree on switching to the Medium now that the Carrier is next to crippled.

>>44690874
>Their ETA?
ETA is minutes or less depending on how far they need to travel.
>Strength? Composition?
Both sides are heavy on attack corvettes with some Knight class thrown in. At least 7 attack wings are known to be inbound. That number could be much higher.

Ruling House pursuit forces are moving to reinforce your position with 2 Medium cruisers.

>>44691407
Thank you. In that case we should probably cover the rear of our fleet a bit more. It would be very annoying to have 7 ACRVs jump in directly to the unprotected rear of our carriers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJPicyW5rbw

"Shift bombardment, try to take down that Medium cruiser before it can reach the station."

The larger Nasidum ships and the station are focusing all of their fire on Forbearance now. The upgraded shields are helping quite a bit but in time they'll need to switch to secondaries.

Your Warlord and Ber'helum designed interceptors have a significant advantage in terms of firepower against the stock Z5's being fielded by the enemy squadrons. They're having a more difficult time against bombers carrying missiles in place of their torpedoes, able to launch far more warheads.

Tama informs you he's pulling the fighters back to the second line for more support.

Drake sends two of the better rated assault wings along with Battlecruiser and battleship support. Two afterburner squadrons back them up. It will take some time to intercept but they'll get it done.

Fire begins to eat away at shields and armor of the remaining Medium. It looks like they're trying to reach a repair dock on the other side of the station. Suddenly a display for fleet damage lights up as the shields on Forbearance begin taking much more damage.

"What's going on with Forbearance?"

"It looks as though we're taking siege cannon fire." replies Tama.

Sensors highlights the enemy formation and magnifies the Jupiter transport. They've unloaded their forward holds exposing emitter arrays for 5 phase cannon based siege weapons. Much smaller and lower powered than those used by Helios ships, what they lack in punch they make up for in rate of fire.

"I thought only Terrans had those kind of weapon mods on the Jupiter?"

"Obviously someone must have found their specs." the Admiral replies matter-of-factly.

Your ship shakes from an impact and one of the assault corvettes protecting Forbearance has its port side explode from a hit.

"The smaller ships can't withstand that sort of firepower."

"Orders sir?" asks Drake.

[ ] Form shield walls
[ ] Go evasive

>>44692002
Somebody drag that damaged corvette out of the line of fire.

Are any of the units present trained to form shield walls? I remember something about forming them properly being not that easy.

I think J-D doesn't train that tactic but maybe some of the allies present do?

>>44692002
>[ ] Go evasive
Cloaked ships, make an SP run on the Jupiter.

>>44692002
>[ ] Go evasive
Focus all fire on the Jupiter class. It's too much competition for us to allow it to remain in the field.

Redeploy the AB units and cloaked units to run a SP run on the Jupiter.

Deploy Bomber squadrons and begin moving the battle lines forward. It's time we started to lay the pain on them and began the REAL attack

>>44692099
>>44692294
Wouldn't that pretty much be a suicide mission for our cloaked ships?

>>44692094
>Are any of the units present trained to form shield walls?
Everyone gets some basic training with it in order to work with Republic units. Battlecruiser and Battleship crews get more training as they're expected to work more with light cruisers.

>>44692099
>Cloaked ships, make an SP run on the Jupiter.
Do you want to use the cloaked Battleships or silent hunters? You have 2 of each.

>>44692294
>Redeploy the AB units
Drake warns that this may leave the flank unit under strength while they deal with the enemy patrol group.

>>44692344
>Do you want to use the cloaked Battleships or silent hunters? You have 2 of each.
Silent hunters, they can remain cloaked after shooting. Also, aim for the basically unarmored weapons

>>44692344
>Do you want to use the cloaked Battleships or silent hunters? You have 2 of each.
Silent Hunters. They are the better stealth ships after all.

>Drake warns that this may leave the flank unit under strength while they deal with the enemy patrol group.
I suppose we should not move them then.

>>44692334
Well we will have to hope they know what they are doing and pray they don't get detected. Just need a few SP hits to disable the Jupiters main gun for a few moments.

>>44692408
>Silent hunters, they can remain cloaked after shooting.

We probably didn't get the fancy version.

>>44692344
>Do you want to use the cloaked Battleships or silent hunters? You have 2 of each.

I'm against that unless their crews are sure they can survive the run.

>Shield wall
Have the remaining BB/BCR units take turns forming shield walls. Use the medium cruisers (and assault corvettes if really necessary) to provide additional cover.

>>44692408
>Silent hunters, they can remain cloaked after shooting.
No they cant. Only models equipped with their advanced cloak are capable of this. You have a pair of normal silent hunters with normal Rovinar cloaking shields.

Much as I like the idea of backstabbing the siege gun with hunters I don't feel that the damage they can cause is worth the risk of losing them.

>>44692527
oh, in that case the battlecruisers are probably a better option

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Corvettes go evasive, battleships to shield walls?

Nasidum and Ruling House ships are arriving in the area.

>>44692524
>I'm against that unless their crews are sure they can survive the run.
Their captains would prefer to reduce to skeleton crew levels before the attempt but are ready to go immediately if necessary.

[ ] Send the Cloaked BS's after Jupiter
[ ] Wait for your Merc allies to arrive. Target Jupiter with them
[ ] Other

>>44692806
Wait for your Merc allies to arrive. Target Jupiter with them
How long for them to get here? Not voting asking.

>>44692806
>[ ] Send the Cloaked BS's after Jupiter

>>44692806
>Corvettes go evasive, battleships to shield walls?
Sonds good to me.

>[ ] Wait for your Merc allies to arrive. Target Jupiter with them

Give me a few minutes to come up with suggestions for some of the ships on the map.

>>44692826
>How long for them to get here? Not voting asking.
Any time now. Slight delay due to flank attack that will avoid targeting the planet.

>>44692806
>[ ] Send the Cloaked BS's after Jupiter
I'm temped to retarget the our seige guns on the exposed mediums.

>>44692806
>[ ] Wait for your Merc allies to arrive. Target Jupiter with them
Now I'm voting for it to be a massive alpha strike.

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>>44692806
Suddenly this battle because one huge god darn mess. Only group that seems to be a real threat is bottom left. and bottom middle. However we can crush both those units between us and the RH reinforcements. Time for micro jumps yay?

[ ] Wait for your Merc allies to arrive. Target Jupiter with them

Was thinking something like this for movement plans for the fleets.

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>>44692869
>Give me a few minutes to come up with suggestions for some of the ships on the map.
Here it is.

>>44692806
I'm in favor of a major bomber strike at the secondary nasidium force. They don't have any fighters.

>>44692806
>[ ] Wait for your Merc allies to arrive. Target Jupiter with them
So either they got the specs for a Terran weapon system, or the acquired the weapon system whole... possibly from the Terrans.
We have some calls to make either way.

>>44693097
>acquired the weapon system whole... possibly from the Terrans

I doubt that. We have a deal going with the Terrans to supply Lance class cruisers to Houses the Terrans want to win, which were those in favor of actively supporting the FA.

That really doesn't include Nasidum at the moment.

>>44693023
>>44693058
These seem similar enough.

>>44693093
Add attack bombers to that force?

>>44693364
>Add attack bombers to that force?
Sure. They don't have any bombers to intercept

>>44693364
>Add attack bombers to that force?
Not the anon with that idea, but I'd say it tdepends on if those squads have the aries BBs with PD or not.

>>44693364
Bombers for everyone. We can't afford to hold back in this battle.

>>44693364
Bombs away.

I got this feeling that soon a looooot of people are going to be very dead.

>>44693364
More munitions in their direction? Hell yeah.

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You have any corvettes in the line of fire go evasive while the battleships prepare to form shield walls if needed. All information about the Jupiter is sent to your allies still on the way here.

The battle on the right flank breaks down into confusion as the enemy force launches SP Torpedoes and your wing commanders respond in kind, though in smaller numbers.

Daska takes a wing and heads for the inbound medium cruisers on the left flank while another moves to assist Ruling House ships aft.
Your own raiders and their escort are pulled back, micro jumping to out then around to help another unit on the left flank.

With things heating up it might be best to close the distance and push through the fighter opposition. Forbearance maneuvers then accelerates towards the station, the course change reducing the number of phase cannons you can bring to bear, but giving the enemy a smaller target. It's less of an issue for your torpedo batteries as they fire out above and below the hull of the ship before changing course.

With the shift in the battle your command ship is beginning to take a bit more fire. For now it looks like you'll be ok.

"Forbearance, deploying point defense."

Enemy fighters are close enough now that the Super has deployed its mix of particle beam and mass drivers turrets. Needle thin beams lance out towards approaching fighters, while the mass drivers wait to target any torpedoes. Particle beams on your own ship begin to add their fire seconds later as enemy fighters attempt to cut around the flanks of your screen.

Some launch torpedoes at maximum range. Few seem to be SP's, but those that are target the maneuvering engines of Forbearance.

"Two drone carriers just jumped in at the edge of the planet's gravity well. They're still too far out to have an immedate impact but we should keep an eye on them." Tama warns.

That's going to be an annoyance, but one you can deal with in time.

New contacts jump in on the left flank closer to the planet, two warlord super heavies accompanied by 6 Sledge class mediums.

The IFF on the lead super seems strangely familiar.

"We're being hailed by the South Reach Mercenary fleet. They're asking fo you sir." coms informs you.

"Rout it to my station." You reply.

A rather worn looking human pirate sporting an eyepatch of all things appears on screen.

"This is the Captain of the John Avery. We told Bonrah that we had some unfinished business with one Baron Sonia Reynard."

>What say?

>>44695059
I have no idea who this is.
"So you do. I suppose its their fault for not asking a mercinary fleet precisely what kind of unfinished business you had."

>>44695059
"I see. Do I have to assume Warlord Krussk has been told the same?"

>>44695230
It's the super you fucks guys decided to blow up while it was packed with pirate semi-civilians a few years ago.

>>44695230
I don't remember the details, but our last encounter with the John Avery ended with us running the fuck away from the ship while they tried to blast us. Our situation just went from not so bad to potentially utterly shit.

>>44695288
>>44695322
Well dick. I... I just don't know what too do.

"Am I too assume the contract is void then? Cause that would really put a bummer on my day."

TSTG, are you trolling us? Cause fuck man.

>>44695288
No that's the Forbearance. Crayton?

>>44695059
"I am going to assume our unfinished business can wait until the hostilities in this relay have ceased, or Krussk would not have sent you here, as anything else would ruin the reputation of his forces as the most reliable SRL mercenaries there are.

If you wish to talk about a resolution for what happened in the past without attempting to kill me yet again, I'm more than willing to talk once this is over."

>>44695510
>>25793051
> That slow typing guy !!cAsGzl185mF Wed 03 Jul 2013
>Was kind of surprised you[...]
>Smuggling torpedoes aboard the John Avery to blow large sections of it up despite knowing there were captured slaves still aboard.

>>44695059
Have the cloaked ships target the droneships

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>>44695059
Well it was nice knowing ya'll. A shame about us getting murdered now.

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>>44695230
>>44695281
>>44695288
"So you do. I suppose its their fault for not asking a mercenary fleet precisely what kind of unfinished business you had."

The Pirate's expression goes from a predatory grin to a crestfallen disappointment in the space of seconds.

Sighing he removes the eyepatch and tosses it aside.

"Kill all the fun why don't you.
Change the IFF!" he shouts to someone off screen.

The ID on the South Reach flagship switches to that of the Sam Bellamy.

"We worked really hard on that, or we wouldn't have been here on time. It was the most convenient method of getting through Bonrah space unopposed."

"Well you did have excellent timing! I was beginning to worry this fight might actually become bothersome. Would you kindly bring an end to that siege gun that seems all too happy to poke at my Super and slag that station they got there?

We're beginning our advance and I hope to catch them in a pincer with your fleet and bring an end to House Nasidums ambitions in this Relay. Oh and if it's not to much of a bother could you try not to dent the enemy Heavy too much? I have this urge to salvage it mostly intact if at all possible!"

"We'll do what we can to honor our contract but if that Heavy turns on us we'll defend ourselves."

The SRL Force will deal with the Jupiter. Do you want to help them take it down quickly, or shift fire to the Heavy Cruiser?

>>44695706
>Have the cloaked ships target the droneships
Everyone ok with this?

>>44695059
Phone posting. Sorry if wonky.

First, find out if this is our SRL Mercedes force.

Then: "We can settle our past after ensuring the Dominion does not fall to those Houses that would sell out all of the factions to the Neeran. If you are here to support Bonrah, you may be on the wrong side of this fight."

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>>44695786
God dammit tstg. I nearly panicked... No, I DID panic! Also I like this guy.

>Have the cloaked ships target the droneships
Yes. Drones are a pain in the arse anyways and we don't need more Fighters kicking out shit in.

Focus fire on the Jupiter. It's the most dangerous enemy ship in the system for the moment and each moment it is alive is another moment that it gets to damage the Forbearance.

Also updated move plan because I don't trust Daska to be able to survive a full frontal attack against that many ships on her own with only one wing.

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>>44695786
Jesus fuck TSTG.
Have them slag the Jupiter. Cloaked ships are clear for carrier harassment.

>>44695786
Oh man I thought we were so fucked

>>44695786
"Believe me, it was very convincing."

>John Avery


>Everyone ok with this?
Make these ships a priority target for the cloaked ships. Their captains will know how and when to engage them.

>Situation
Do we still have RH and Nasidum forces inbound?

Once the three wings below the SRL forces have dealt with the single hostile wing, have them link up with the SRL mercs.

>>44695786
"Sorry, the positioning of your ships gave the game away."

>>44695786
When did they have to go trough Bonrah territory?

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>>44695916
>God dammit tstg. I nearly panicked... No, I DID panic!
>>44695962
>Jesus fuck TSTG.
>>44696033
>Oh man I thought we were so fucked

Last thread this came up:
>but if I recall Bonrah controls most of old Latham territory right? Our pirate allies will pass through there since its the fastest route right? Hopefully they won't get jumped enroute.
>It seems House Bonrah managed to win the bid to hold onto most of the former House Lat'tham space.

>Most, not all. But yeah that can't bode well. -TSTG

Figured I had to come up with something.

>>44696212
Didn't the Jon Avery become the Forbearance though? As it was inside the mine field in the Run?

>>44696300
No, that was always the Forbearance. The Jon was the Super we infiltrated when we played at being a pirate to locate the Rovinars stolen prototype stealth ship. It was out initiation to being knighted. We went there and had to leave in a rush but we set out a bunch of nukes in it as a distraction. Unsurprisingly they where not very happy with us blowing up a bunch of people.

>>44696300
No, you're getting 2 different mission mixed up.

Forbearance is an old Champion class. You passed it on your first trip through the Run on the way to infiltrate one of the warlords fleets. The broken hull of Forbearance and the station(s) attached to it served as a choke point, letting pirates control the Run with their minefield.

The ship you boarded once meeting up with their fleet was the John Avery.
Your team placed several torpedoes through part of the ship then blew them up. It later jumped with the rest of the Warlord fleet when they left the Relay, either after conducting repairs or with the assistance of another ship.

The real John Avery is currently in the hands of a House in South Reach after a Warlord married some Dro'all noble nearly in the war.

>>44696406
John Avery is also a Mega class SH, while Forbearance is 'only' a Champion class SH.

Although I'm not sure if the Champion isn't usually a higher quality ship compared ot the Mega.

>>44695786
>Talk about Deci BB a month or two ago
Would it be feasible to take the concept of that ship, start with " It looks like someone cut a chunk out of a Alliance Capital Ship." and go from there while making sure it doesn't explode the moment somebody gives it a bad look?

>>44696212
Which is still worrisome, since we know nothing about that relay. If Winifred has her hands full in South Reach then Bonrah could dump the majority of their forces on us after they secure the old Lat'tham relay.

We could quickly find ourselves swamped in Bonrah ships, especially if they are using the same cloning practices Lat'tham was allowed to do.

>>44695786
This is some top level banter.

>>44696406
>>44696491
Right sorry. I'll go in the corner now.

>>44696671
No worries. It's easy to mix them up. I had to check the archives because I briefly thought it was one the super heavy cruisers sonia ran into when she was still piloting her corvette.

Forbearance does have a wiki page btw.

Quick poll; what would you lot think of a Reynard class BC designed to host one large, spinal weapon (Probably either a pair of quad-linked Phase Beams or a Medium Plasma Cannon,) some EWAR tech and big engines? And shuttles. Because salvage. I might be able to draw something up, with TSTG's blessing.

>>44697202
Not a bad idea, however, we could just ask the shallans for their BC design. It's almost exactly like that, although it only comes with a light plasma cannon at the moment.

>Shallan Battlecruiser [S-BCRS] [Weapons: 1x spinal mount Light plasma cannon, 2x heavy phase cannon array, 2x phase cannon turret, 2x Spinal mount Heavy Pulse cannon, 4x torpedo launchers

That's the 'old' pre-invasion design btw. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a more impressive version out by now.

Every time I want to suggest a new ship and have one final look over the ships page on the wiki, there's almost exactly the same design available as a canon shallan design. Their frigate looks scary, and they probably upgraded it as well.

>>44697202
No

>>44697202
Personally don't see the need for a new BC design at the moment. What with the Athena class being able to fill just about every need with modules, even if we can only fit the LD module to it right now. Not to mention our fast Battleships.

"Tell Forbearance to keep hitting that Jupiter, we need it out of the fight."

Both of your cloaked battleships jump in and attack the pair of Aries carriers, doing as much damage as they can in a single pass then getting out before the drones can wear down their defenses.

Coms and intel detect plenty of com traffic from the Nasidum fleet. Ruling House commanders inform you that other enemy forces on their way here have largely diverted to the Csontos system.

"We're seeing movement from the stations. It looks like they're preparing to evacuate."

The first scrap cannon shots to impact with the Jupiter glance off its shields but follow up shots result in bright flashes when the projectiles are atomised from impact with the shield.

One of the larger cannon shots from Forbearance manages to penetrate the forward shield of the converted transport, blasting a crater just above one of the siege weapons. Before you can witness the ship being torn to pieces by the SRL bombardment proximity alarms begin to go off and enemy ships appear at the back of your formation.

"What happened to "no more enemy reinforcements?"" you ask no one in particular.

A mix of raider craft have very nearly performed a perfect micro jump into your formation. They were a little off which is letting the two Wings guarding your Carriers do their job.

Vulture, Hellcat and the occasional Marauder class are doing their best to disrupt your fleet at close range. Corvettes and one third of the Knight class ships look to be sallying forth from the station to intercept you.

"Some of Ber'helum's allies have turned on us!"
"What?!"

One of the corvette wings that an ally of House Ber'helum had brought along have turned on those of the larger House. One quarter of the friendly wing near them were crippled or destroyed in the opening attack.

One piece of good news is that that the fighting on the right flank has ended but the units that took part have been heavily chewed up by SP torpedo hits.

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>>44697628
The right flank units need to dock for repairs but things around forbearance are a mess at the moment. Do you want to them to assist the Ber'helum forces as they are, or head for the Forbearance to dock?

Any other general orders for the battle at the moment?

>>44697706
Can we pull the salvage forces off that job and recall the logistics raiding forces? We can place them right in front of the enemy exit, and have the cloaked ships ready to SP the enemy heavy's FTL ships. They need to retreat out of a relay, even minor damage will make that suicidal.

>>44697628
Fuck sake. Have the Ber'Helum BC squadron assist on the flank and have the rest return for repairs. Have scrap cannons refocus fire on the Escaping Heavy. That thing is NOT escaping.

Have the Medium on the lower left and the wing with it pull back NOW. It's got two fresh squadrons of BCs, Two Mediums and more smaller ships than I care to count falling down on it soon. They will get butchered. They should just move over to the right and join our other wing there and then merge with the two RH wings as well.

Move up one of our free BC squadrons on the left flank along with our Medium to prepare to face down with the Cruise swarm coming our way in the middle. Gosh this is turning into a true mess.

Also make angry shark noises at the Ber'Helum commander.

>>44697706
If any of the three wings below the SRL fleet are equipped with PD, have them support the SRL forces moving to engage.

>The right flank units
Have everybody except for the Ber'helum BCR and AB squads jump out for repairs at the nearest secure RH base. The other forces help Ber'H.

Have the cloaked ships support the wings to the lower right.

>Any other general orders for the battle at the moment?
Focus scrap cannon fire on the mobile assets. If something is too damaged to jump out, move on to the next target.

>1st battle Salvage
Have those guys managed to start getting salvage behind friendly lines?

>>44697903
>Can we pull the salvage forces off that job and recall the logistics raiding forces?
Yes.
>We can place them right in front of the enemy exit, and have the cloaked ships ready to SP the enemy heavy's FTL
They do have 1 more salvo of SP Torpedoes. It will take a few minutes for the ships to stop and rush to your aid.

>>44697910
>Ber'Helum BC squadron assist on the flank and have the rest return for repairs.
>scrap cannons refocus fire on the Escaping Heavy.
Easy enough.

>Move up one of our free BC squadrons + our Medium to face down with the Cruise swarm
Moving up.

>>44697934
>If any of the three wings below the SRL fleet are equipped with PD, have them support the SRL forces moving to engage.
The mixed unit is.

>>44697934
>1st battle Salvage
Have those guys managed to start getting salvage behind friendly lines?
Some of it. They've mostly been securing the crews. A dedicated salvage effort will be needed for the Mediums. They should be able to safely leave what's left to come help.

>Have the cloaked ships support the wings to the lower right.
Do this or have them help disable the Heavy Cruisers engines?

>>44698354
I'd say leave the medium and one corvette wing in position to make sure nobody takes the salvage or tows a shukant back to to nasidum lines.

>Do this or have them help disable the Heavy Cruisers engines?

BBs go after the engines, silent hunters help the corvette wings? Or the other way around, whichever is more likely to keep our cloaked ships alive.

>>44698354
>Yes.
Do it. Pull everything not in this system we can into a blocking force and drop it right in their path

>>44698354
I'd have all the cloak ships disable the heavy's engines then work on the weapons and such force them to abandon ship.

>>44698558
I think we really don't want to keep our cloaked ships anywhere close to that heavy. It's covered with tons of weapon turrets excellent against anything smaller than medium cruiser.

>>44698354
How did the mixed wings get the jump on us anyway, with the Forberance's long range scanner array?
and yeah, pull the stuff on the salvage. They're running, not in salvage mode.

>>44698516
Some of the salvage ships to block.
>BBs go after the engines

>>44698541
All salvage ships to block.

>>44698558
Only cloaked ones?
All Cloaked ships go after the engines

>>44698641
All salvage ships to block.

>>44698849
>to block
Isn't that pretty suicidal against the forces Nasidum still has?

2 elite wings, 2 light crusier wings, 2 >50% BCR squads and a heavy vs. 1 medium, 1 BCR squad, and 2 corvette wings.

I don't think it's a smart idea to put them anywhere on their own.

>>44699864
I believe its two mediums. And we'd divert additional forces to back them. And its not like they'd have to win, they just have to slow them down a bit for our overwhelming might to catch up. And you're assuming that force takes no more long range fire in the meantime.

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The remaining ships from the salvage operation are told to abandon their work and get to the Magdalena system as soon as possible.

The remaining Bar'helum fast battleships rush to aid the rest of their forces while you send the damaged corvettes for repairs.

You move your command ship up to help intercept any Light Cruisers and corvettes trying for your fleet. All of the close range battle happening around Forbearance is making it difficult to put fire on the fleeting Heavy. It's now using the station for cover from the SRL scrap cannons. The Jupiter is finished as are several battleships that were near it.

Point defense on your Super and escorting ships is wearing down the enemy fighters. Had you pushed your fighters in closer to the station the same might have happened to you. There are downsides. Any attack bombers still carrying SP Torpedoes are able to fire from such close range that the mass drivers have little time to shoot them down. That's what your armor is for but hull impacts and their craters are still easy to notice.

"Nice that these assholes have SP Torpedoes to throw around. Maybe we'll be able to salvage some after the fighting?" Suggests Drake.

A Vulture loses part of its drive section and spirals out of control.

"Brace!" warns Maybourne.

You really wish you were at the controls of the ship as the Vulture slams into the aft shields, some of the debris glancing off the armor protecting the engines.

Daska has managed to slow the approach the group of Nasidum ships long enough for a Ruling House fleet to overtake them. Just managing to keep her medium cruiser out of effective range of enemy Battleships in the process.
Your attack bombers soon catch up and add their fire into the rapidly devolving mess.

"Don't worry, I have no intention of committing suicide today." is her belated response to your orders to pull back.

>>44700048
The forces on that right bottom corner haven't moved in a few updates.

>>44700178
Whoops. Saved the change to the wrong map version. They're all running off the edge of the map.

The captain of the Forbearance contacts you.

"We've never really pushed the engines on the Forbearance all out. The structural reinforcements should let us put on enough power to match pace with that Heavy Cruiser. If you divert power from some of the weapons to engines and tractor beams we might be able to overtake it. Or we put all power to shields and weapons and put down that light cruiser swarm."

[ ] Power to engines, overtake
[ ] Power to weapons, clear out these enemies
[ ] Neutral power settings


Did you want Daska to disengage and assist the Salvage team when they try to intercept the Heavy and its fleet?
They only have 1 Kilo class Medium, a battleship squadron and 2 attack wings. Its not much but it could distract long enough for the cloaked ships to strike at engines.

Or did you want the salvage fleet to go somewhere else once they jump in?

>>44700284
>Did you want Daska to disengage and assist the Salvage team when they try to intercept the Heavy and its fleet?
Assist the salvage wing, also have the ships that just ran off the map micro out an reinforce it. That'll give them another two attack wings.

>>44700284
>Whoops. Saved the change to the wrong map version. They're all running off the edge of the map.
Have the damaged squad jump out if it still exists.

The others join forces with the salvage team once it arrives.

>[ ] Power to weapons, clear out these enemies
As much as I'd prefer to go after the heavy cruiser, I wouldn't be surprised if those incoming light cruisers are armed with SP torps.

>Did you want Daska to disengage and assist the Salvage team when they try to intercept the Heavy and its fleet?
Yes, we need somebody with lots of experience over there. Would the Ber'helum and J-D BB squads be able to leave the melee to reinforce them?

>>44700284
>[ ] Power to engines, overtake
>>44700481
I doubt it. While they have torp launchers they are pretty slow and obsolete.

>>44700048
>SRL forces not doing much.
Would they be willing to spare one of their battlecruiser squadrons for the battle between rh and nas forces to the south?

>have the ships that just ran off the map micro out an reinforce it.
>The others join forces with the salvage team once it arrives.
You send the request. Ruling House doesn't take orders from you, but they're not unreasonable generally.

>>44700624
They'll send ships. They don't want to split up their forces too much because they're worried they'll be caught unsupported.


>>44700481
>[ ] Power to weapons
>>44700530
>[ ] Power to engines

Additional votes?

>>44700284
>[ ] Power to engines, overtake
That thing is the reason we came here. Take it out.

>>44700743
>>44700743
>They'll send ships. They don't want to split up their forces too much because they're worried they'll be caught unsupported.
reasonable. Can their Sledge in close escort still reach the oncoming light cruisers with their heavy phase canon? Anything that main force has got that's falling out of range of the heavy should target the light cruisers.

>>44700284
[x] Power to weapons

Our Neeran guns should still aim for the Heavy. If it is going for an escape, it should be fairly easy to hit, and if we force it to roll then our attacking/intercepting forces can micro in to pound the weak section.

So we're going to keep on keeping on it looks like. Neutral power settings.

>>44701107
>1 vote for a
>1 vote for b
>Guys, can I have some more votes?
>1 vote for b
>1 vote for a
You'll get middle of the road option c nobody wanted
Classic H&D.

>>44701107
Is there an overload reactor option that lets them do both?

>>44700284
[X] Power to engines, overtake

Just saying I still don't like the idea of getting our cloaked ships so close to the enemy fleet and station.

>>44701160
I didn't want it either. I put the options out there because it was going to be a pain to write.

>>44701175
Seeing that the "Power to engines, overtake" option was something that hadn't really been tried before, no there really isn't.

The response to your request isn't as positive as you'd like. A corvette wing and an attack cruiser squadron are sent to assist, the other wing micro jumps off to assist elsewhere.

SRL Supers are maneuvering hard, the bright flares of sublight drives are easy to spot as they attempt a clear shot at the fleeing Heavy. The station is in ruins, anything further will just throw debris into low orbit.
A Sledge and a battleship squadron micro jump out and around to take up the slack where Daska left off.
Daska and the salvage unit jumps in ahead of the Nasidum forces, trying to put fire on them from the opposite side the Forbearance is. Unfortunately this has also put them near the few drone fighters the carriers were able to launch.

The rest of your group are dealing with the remaining raiders and the incoming Light cruiser wing. Forbearance shifts all torpedo fire to the closer battle. Remaining Ber'helum battleships put down the remaining traitors and charge in to assist you and the other escorts.

More than a few Knights launch SP torps once they've closed to knife fighting range. These ships might be commanded by their namesakes. The amount of fire being thrown about is clouding short range sensors.

"Incoming Corvettes are not tackling!" reports sensors.

"They're on a suicide run." explains Maybourne.

[ ] "Evade, try not got get hit."
[ ] "Everyone protect Forbearance!"
[ ] "Assigned escorts, protect Forbearance."

>>44701667
>[ ] "Assigned escorts, protect Forbearance."

>>44701667
>[ ] "Assigned escorts, protect Forbearance."
Assigned LST's to physical intercept with single pilots.
Also holy shit, where the hell are Nasidium finding these fanatics?

>>44701728
5 bucks on lattham clones.

>>44701667
>[x] "Assigned escorts, protect Forbearance."
[X] "Everyone protect Forbearance!"
BBs focus their guns on the knight cruisers, everybody else helps with the corvettes.

>>44701728
>Also holy shit, where the hell are Nasidium finding these fanatics?
Excellent question. This sort of no surrender suicide missions is not normal. They're morale was already holding up unusually well before roughly 23 thousand people tried a suicide run.

>>44701667
>[X] "Assigned escorts, protect Forbearance."

>>44701823
I'm curious about this as well. Would you guys be okay with awarding a 5k bonus to whoever manages to disable one of these corvettes without killing the crew?

>>44701922
No, we need them put down hard right now. No time to worry about anything else.

>>44701922
That's a nice bonus but I don't want them to compromise on stopping forbearance damage.

>>44701728
Suicide runs with standard corvettes used to be a common enough thing in the Faction Wars to take out high value ships. Especially in the First Faction War.

Forbearance is from that period, they're probably just keeping up tradition.
>>44701765
Also clones are a thing. And it only takes 1 person in the right place to take control of a corvette.

"Assigned escorts, protect Forbearance."

You have everyone else, especially the battleships with their larger guns, try to focus on the Knights.

Both of the Mediums escorting Forbearance get into blocking positions. You briefly see them using emergency thrusters to align more quickly. The super uses tractor beams to grab any nearby pieces of debris to use as standoff armor.

You may not have thought it possible but the rate of fire manages to increase over the next few seconds. Largely clear of fighters or close in friendlies for a brief moment your lightning guns open up, tearing into ships three at a time.

The next few minutes are filled with scores of exploding corvettes. Some hit by weapons fire, others crashing into shields or escort ships. The escorting Kilos do their job, blocking the majority of the suicide corvettes from reaching their target, even if it means taking crippling damage themselves.

Some get through, mostly in the bow areas, but some farther aft. In total 11 manage to evade the defenders or punch through the shields. None are able to hit the engines or the two larger guns, but several torpedo batteries are knocked out. The escort force is largely out of commission. Carriers are beginning search and recovery, sending shuttles for evacuation and making sure the kilos will end up in a stable orbit.

Not all of the corvettes carried through with their orders, some joining the attack witht he remaining raider craft, though they're being cut down.

Meanwhile the entire distraction has been buying time for their Heavy Cruiser to escape...

Roll 2d20 for Cloaked BS attack

Rolled 6, 3 = 9 (2d20)

>>44702394
For Salvage!

Rolled 17, 17 = 34 (2d20)

>>44702394
Witness Me!

Rolled 5, 2 = 7 (2d20)

>>44702394
RnGoddess please be nice?

Rolled 5, 6 = 11 (2d20)

>>44702394
Can't let that heavy get away.

>>44702457
Come on double 17s, momma needs a new heavy cruiser.

>>44702394
>The escort force is largely out of commission
Thank god we have the anchorage around.

I'm also in favor of picking up 2 or 4 Picos as additional escorts. Their many smaller guns would have probably helped a lot in a situation like this. Is anybody in DRH01 building them?

>>44702512
It's not bad.

>>44702772
I was using a gambling phrase that might be a little dated. I'm glad to see the 17s.

>>44702512
To be fair, I think we're giving that to an allied house because our house can't actually support any more heavy ships right now.

>>44702871
I know that Poppa needs a new pair of shoes.

But honestly it might not be enough. I could see a DC of 18 being reasonable for knocking it out vs. Mission killing it so that it's not usable for a while.

>>44697628
>One of the corvette wings that an ally of House Ber'helum had brought along have turned on those of the larger House.

House Ber'helum in charge of being a really shitty local ally.
>Oh, you managed to expand your territory? Why don't you give us a few of those new sectors?
>Oh, you were hoping we'd send you additional ships? Sorry, you're doing too well.
>Those allies we brought? Oh, they're going to turn on us.
>One of those incredibly useful gravity well generators? Sorry, they're needed elsewhere.

So you expected a good solid ally?
o-oh....
I-it's just us, House Ber'helum
...
sorry

>>44703068
Now we know how Ber'helum lost the Ruling House position.

Phobos now my vote and also perhaps our future political husband?

>>44703169
... you seem confused.

Phobos is one of the largest/most powerful human-led Houses, not one in a position to become the RH.

Ber'helum is admittedly a more hands-off leadership House, but I imagine they aren't the only group having traitors crop up during battles.

On a different note, won't this suicide attack be amazing propaganda fodder to damage/embarrass Nasidum?

>>44703232
I think Phobos is weaker than we are right now. It's Ceres and then J-D I believe

>>44703232
>Phobos is one of the largest/most powerful human-led Houses, not one in a position to become the RH.
No, they're not. I think Ceres is the most powerful human house.

Phobos used to be J-D tier.
>>43783899
>They were of equivilant strength to J-D several years ago, though they're more reliant upon older designs. You've since far surpassed them in numbers of heavy warships.

>>44703232
2hen it comes to appereances everyone but our allies lose. Nasidium look like scrubs for getting their buts kicked. The Royal House looks like scrubs for not managing to do in weeks what we did in six hours

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>>44703232
No, not really. From an outside perspective ramming ships seems heroic, and they could pitch it as such. In any case such actions are more par for the course as a common tactic. What will be embarrassing is a minor house and friends stomping their ass. Especially as they probably didn't expect things to go so far so fast. That diplomat may have been misinformed but while they thought us ambitious (The comment about maybe breaking away to form a new house) somebody in the great schemes of a great house with a great number of things on the go did not account for a rabid were-shark.

>>44703232
>embarrass Nasidum
Do not antagonize them. Seriously.
I'd rather not have them reroute some fleet that can just roll through the run because we managed to piss of somebody important enough.

All we should hope for is to end up in "not worth the effort" tier, and manage to stay there for the rest of the conflict while sending materiel to the other J-D territories.

>>44703421
Don't forget Behrlum having a bunch of traitors among them. Meanwhile we effectively used Warlords. We totally have to play up their cunning plan in the inevitable propaganda movie.

We can also probably wrangle some shit out of Behrlum by not making them look like incompetent cock mongers who couldn't keep control of their shit.

Abasi Birech watched the sensors as he lined up his cloaked battleship for a torpedo run on the heavy cruiser.

"That's it, keep the approach nice and steady. Avoid the stray phase cannon fire. No sudden bursts from the fusion drives."

"One thousand kilometers."

"Didn't serve in Knight Captain Sylvan's school of sneak attack for four bloody years to be caught now."

"Eight hundred."

"Reserve power to shield fast charge banks. Put them up as soon as the cloak drops. Now we just have to hope our twin doesn't screw up and give us away."

"Five hundred."

Not it was just a matter of waiting for a good shot at the ship rolled to keep the more heavily damaged sections of the shields away from Forbearance. Knight Commander Rna's force ahead was providing plenty of distraction and keeping away some of the potential escorts that might have been in position to block. It was also throwing stray energy weapons fire in their direction that could disrupt the cloak.

As the fire intensity around Forbearance picked up it was becoming increasingly clear that a perfect shot where the heavy torpedoes could punch through wasn't going to happen. "Good enough" would have to do.

Both ships decloaked and fired their remaining 8 SP's followed 8 more heavy torpedoes.

"Break!"

Turning hard, both ships put distance between them and re-cloaked before the heavy guns could turn from Daska's unit towards them.

All the projectiles impacted what was then the port side to the attacking force, the SP's detonating among the banks of sublight engines. Heavy Torps failed to penetrate the shield but helped to weaken it as damage to the engines ran the risk of disabling shield generators.

Then the now weakened section rolled into line with the incoming scrap cannon fire. The first two shots glanced off or blew up on the shields but the following two punched cleanly through, taking out both of the damaged engine banks. The nearest drive sections momentarily splutter out, stalling a jump attempt but buying time for the South Reach ships to take another shot.

Fighting around Forbearance also dies down enough for another barrage from its big guns and heavy phase cannons.

Combined fire from both of the big ships relentlessly hammer the remaining shields as secondaries try to buy time. Scrap cannon fire is not something even a big ship like a heavy cruiser can keep taking after an extended fight. Eventually a large enough chunk of scrap punches through the central section and into the forward docking bays, filling them with burning debris.

Corvettes and transports still present inside the bay begin to launch, soon jumping to FTL. A signal goes out soon after and the rest of the escort that can disengage from Daska's unit jump out as well.

"This is Captain Gryai of the Redoubtable, we surrender. We are prepared to discuss terms regarding the fate of the ship's crew."

[ ] Accept before the Ruling House can attempt to do so
[ ] Allow Ruling House forces to accept
[ ] Allow Ber'helum forces to accept

>>44703702
>[ ] Accept before the Ruling House can attempt to do so
We led we accept

>>44703702
>[x] Accept before the Ruling House can attempt to do so

>>44703702
>[X]other
Is it really important who accepts their surrender?

To be honest, I don't really care who they surrender to if it helps somebody save face, as long as we get to decide what happens.

If the remaing hostile forces agree not to attack search and rescue ships, we should probably start recovery and evacuation efforts.

>>44703702
>[ ] Accept before the Ruling House can attempt to do so
Not sure they even managed a scratch during the fight. They really shouldn't have salvage rights anyway

>>44703634
>Knight Captain Sylvan's school of sneak attack
My sides.

>>44703702
[X] Accept before the Ruling House can attempt to do so

>>44703702
Would allowing one of the major houses to accept the surrender help j-d to stay out of the spotlight when the fallout for this comes around?

>>44703702
If the Nasidium medium cruisers haven't jumped, retarget the bombardment on them until they surrender

>>44703866
I think it is to late for that. We seem to be the main factory in holding all this together.

>>44703702
>[ ] Allow Ruling House forces to accept
Say what you want but they held the line while we rallied the rest of the run.

I'm sure even they won't be delusional enough to think they'll get to have any word when it comes to what happens to that ship or the crew.

>>44703702
>halp
Could one of the more diplomatically inclined crew or knights comment on this?

>>44703820
>Is it really important who accepts their surrender?
Not if you don't care who has first claim to the ship or who it will go to.
You could say that you accept on behalf of the Ruling House, etc, or inform them you're letting them accept the surrender. That should give you more of a say in what happens to it.

Just letting the others claim the surrender might give you some pull provided they respect your contribution. Should the SRL supers hang around for awhile that respect might be a bit easier to gain.

>>44703826
>Not sure they even managed a scratch during the fight.
They did not. The ships they sent to help Daska were too busy fighting the escorts and drones.

>>44703836
Noble officers need to pay 2,400,000 S to get in and must practice their sneak attacks every day.

>>44703866
There's going to be some fallout. You brought in two warlord super heavies. That's not a thing that will be missed. If you hadn't and managed the victory there is a chance you might have been able to hide behind the larger Houses.

>>44703872
Its unlikely they'll escape.

Stopping soon after this.

Reports have come in that there is a remaining Jupiter transport in the Csontos system staging an evacuation of supplies, equipment and personnel with the remainder of the Nasidum fleet.

Do you want to send ships to help contest it? And will the SRL Mercs make up any of that force?

>>44703702
>[ ] Accept before the Ruling House can attempt to do so
>>44704232
Neat

It's occurred to me that we could pay a small portion of the SRL Mercs' payment in our custom coloured plasma ammo from Rioja. It'd be perfect product placement and I bet mercenaries would appreciate sick styling more than a faction military would.

>>44704232
>Do you want to send ships to help contest it? And will the SRL Mercs make up any of that force?

It would probably be helpful if you could give us an overview which of our forces are still operational.

>Noble officers need to pay 2,400,000 S
Does people get kicked out if they don't ram something every couple of months of combat?

>Not if you don't care who has first claim to the ship or who it will go to.
Wasn't Kadnil interested in the ship?

>There's going to be some fallout.
Well, fuck. We possibly just (officically) dragged the SRL into this.

>>44704232

I'd say we should contest their evac. The SRL guys probably have stupid amounts of experience conducting such operations, too.

We might even find it useful to deploy Forbearance with the SRL Supers, due to the Escort being shot up. All 3 ships have solid siege capability, and an 'improvised' escort for Forbearance would't be as dangerous if it were just augmenting the SRL one.

It would be funny if we could manage to jump in and cripple the Jupiter, then depart the other system.

That said, we should find out the RH's reaction to the enemy evacuation. If they want to hit it themselves, we might be better off offering the SRL forces as a siege/support asset to them, while we regroup our forces?

>>44703068
You say that now but just wait.
Soon.

They would have been much more useful early on had you taken the world in former Erid space.
Or one in South Reach. Anywhere but where you are basically.
Especially so if you'd managed to take over REDACTED.

>angry shark noises
Eventually I'm going to find that adorable baby shark video again and you will be unable to make angry shark noises.

>>44704369
>It would probably be helpful if you could give us an overview which of our forces are still operational.
Working on that but I'm falling asleep.

For a completely undamaged force right away minus Ruling House or SRL

2 full assault corvette wings
1 attack corvette wing
1 battleship squadron
2 Carriers & fighter groups

Damage to Forbearance isn't severe, though it may be a good idea to keep it near the surrendered Heavy.

Your fast mediums have taken some hits but are still okay.
There are plenty of battleship squadrons and attack and assault wings that need repairs and should be ready in a few hours, though that won't replace all their losses.

Stopping here for the night. will resume in the morning.

Give some though to the following: 1) who or what you're going to dedicate this victory to. The Media is going to want info. To the rising power of your House? to the success of the Run alliance? Ber'helum? Ruling House? Other? Or will you try to stay out of the spotlight as much as possible?

2) Keeping the Heavy cruiser or handing it off to an ally, and which one that might be.

3)The planet(s) in Nasidum territory. A previous survey said to just take their orbital industry but a good portion of that might be part of the payment to the mercs.

>>44704613
One last bump for the night.

Brief thoughts:
1. Everybody who's planning to keep the dominion actively involved in the fight against the neeran empire?
We should definitely let the allied commanders have the biggest share of the attention if they're okay with it.

2) I remember something about J-D not being able to finance another ship of that size at the moment, and the ascendancy c isn't particularly impressive these days either. I wouldn't mind giving it to somebody else.

3) I guess it's going to be complicated. Having direct access to the nav station leading to the dominion could be useful but it's also an incredibly vulnerable position. Are there really only 2 colonies, or were those two the only relevant ones? Several of our allies don't have any habitable plantes in the relay, iirc.

>REDACTED
We'd never take over Veritas :o

>>44704613

1. We should dedicate it to the Alliance of Houses that aided us, including both the Royal House and Ber'helum. We should make a point that this entire battle is a tragedy, however, as the Dominion can not bleed itself forever in the face of the continued Neeran assault upon the Factions. (remember, we have allies, not vassals)

2. With J-D's manpower situation, we're probably best consulting the other Baron in the Run Alliance. A 'joint custody' situation is out of the question, so unless one of our Alliance Houses can afford to crew and field the thing, gift to Ber'helum? Or maybe even Helios?

As much as I'd love to claim the ship, we're probably better off not having a Major House's Ascendancy class, should they come looking to reclaim the thing.

3. Hard to say. Strategically speaking, handing them over to Ber'helum could be a good way to encourage them to send a larger force to the region, and give them a fair foothold towards a logistics chain in this relay. The Royal House claims their logistics setup is key to why they should remain in charge, right?

>>44704232
Claimit ourselves, then turn it over to the FA for the war effort>>44704198
so we keep our salvaging reputation.

>>44704613
1: Obviously to the Run Alliance except that one traitorous House. Those are getting slammed like no other.

2: We HAVE to keep that Heavy ship. People keep trying to say that we can't staff another one but the House said they wont send us any Heavy once they pull back the Forbearance to the home worlds and then we will be stuck here with no Capital ship support except the Mediums.

3. JD should at the very lest take the Magdalena territory. It will be valuable to have their regional capital as our own planet and the access to the Nav Relay is good as well. Just need to move up some static defenses up there in case any enemy force jumps in from outside of the Relay.

>>44707542

>Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2015
>Am I correct in assuming that our house currently isn't really looking for more heavy cruiser + sized ships?

>>44400223
> That slow typing guy !!TkYrLPIOhL0 Sun 27 Dec 2015
>Yes. At least for the moment. It will also be more difficult to support them and provide the large crews.

>>44406342
> That slow typing guy !!TkYrLPIOhL0 Sun 27 Dec 2015
>House Kadnil has the spare resources to maintain one and their local Knight Commander would like the opportunity for promotion to Baron.
>If the other Houses complain they can just threaten to stop selling them drive plates.

If we do keep it for now could we have Kadnil help staff it and after the civil war allow ourselves to be bought out?

>>44704594

1: Run Alliance

2: Keep it

3: What are our options?

>>44708418
I stand by what I said. Without a Heavy to form our fleet around we will be at a disadvantage. Sure there is the possibility of using a Heavy that we don't own but that's not a guarantee for every situation. The House owning it might decide to pull it out as well or prefer to use it at their own discretion instead of deploy it where we want it to be deployed.

I've had my share of trippy dreams, like last week's when I was stranded in south america and had to drive my beat up old car all the way back to north america. Only to get a parking ticket in New York city before I could make it the rest of the way.

But this one was just plain disturbing. Especially the amputated hand and trying to reattach it.
Oh god 3M Micropore medical tape is not going to fix this! AAAAAAAAA

>>44705087
>We'd never take over Veritas
That wasn't it. You were given 1 and only 1 shot at this particular resource.

>>44704490
>I'd say we should contest their evac. The SRL guys probably have stupid amounts of experience conducting such operations, too.
We have 1 person wanting to contest the evacuation. The Ruling House however are much more inclined to do so. Since you seem to have most of the situation under control here they eventually pull most of their local fleet and jump out.

Ask SRL Fleet to send a force (or their entire fleet?) Y/N?

>>44704613
Things I'd like to know:

Can we repair the heavy?
How long would it take to repair the ship?
Can we staff it?
Can we afford to keep it?

Have we received any update about the rest of our House?

>>44709015
>You were given 1 and only 1 shot at this particular resource.
In the South Reach? That planet where the rebels stole the HAG?

>Ask SRL Fleet to send a force (or their entire fleet?) Y/N?
Is the RH willing to share their intel on the remaining Nasidum forces?

>>44709015
Yeah, scrape up what we can and send it

>>44709074
>Is the RH willing to share their intel on the remaining Nasidum forces?
There are maybe 15 corvette and mixed wings, 4 light cruiser wings, the rest of the Nasidum Medium cruisers and 50 battleships. Most of their units have suffered damage, especially those that have fled the main fight here.

Ruling House has 2 assault corvette wings, 8 attack corvette wings, 20 battleships, and 4 carriers, but they don't need to protect transports and haven't suffered as much damage.

Ruling House is trying to free up other assets to assist.

>>44709146
>Wait, the RH is pulling out?
Pulling out of the Magdalena system where the battle is dying down. They're headed for the Csontos system or the Nav relay in an attempt to keep Nasidum forces from taking all the valuable orbital industry with them when they retreat.

>>44709145
>>44709015
Alright. Send in the SRL fleet as well and whatever forces we can scrounge up from the Run Alliance so we can stake our own claim on the salvage and territory. Don't want the RH to take it all from us now do we?

>>44709015
>That wasn't it. You were given 1 and only 1 shot at this particular resource.
Aw, now you got me curious.

>Ask SRL Fleet to send a force (or their entire fleet?) Y/N?
Is there any disadvantage to doing this?

>>44709244
>Is there any disadvantage to doing this?
Ruling House might not like how much salvage the SRL claims.

>>44709021
>Can we repair the heavy?
Yes. You would need to divert resources, especially engines, from one of the other shipyards.
>How long would it take to repair the ship?
Maybe 3 months?
>Can we staff it?
Not right away. Will halt expansion of your fleet while it's being brought up to optimal levels.
>Can we afford to keep it?
Difficult, not impossible. It would put strain on House logistics and having both it and Forbearance in the Run is a bad idea if J-D kept it.

>Have we received any update about the rest of our House?
Updates will follow once blockade situation is resolved and communication normalised.

>>44704198
>Could one of the more diplomatically inclined crew or knights comment on this?
Taking it for yourself gives you the most options, politically or otherwise. You can still give it to one of the other parties later.

Giving the heavy to the Ruling House will increase their local strength to a point where it would be very difficult for other Houses to challenge them here again.

Giving it to Ber'helum would greatly increase their strength and allow them to provide a realistic challenge to the Ruling House in the region. This may result in more local Houses supporting Ber'helum.

>>44709145
Pull the undamaged and SrL ships plus Daska

>>44709376
>Ruling House might not like how much salvage the SRL claims.
Would having the SRL blockade the nav station help with that? While they'd still be able to take a lot of ships, it would impact the infrastructure around that planet a lot less.

>>44709376
TSTG, a question about Nasidum territory. As we've defeated their fleet, does that mean all their local territory defaults to us? Do we get to hand it out as we see fit?

There's an old saying: Possession is nine-tenths of the law.

If you want territory you'd better be prepared to land ground troops and occupy it. Your allies also have troops they can bring in. You may only have 100k troops with you atm but that's enough to secure key areas like government buildings.

The Ruling House has the most local troops of any House in the Relay and had been fighting Nasidum since their arrival. They're going to get some territory one way or another, its just a question of how much.

You rally ships from the SRL Fleet and your own to help harass the enemy evacuation effort. The arrival of additional medium cruisers and escorts are enough for the remaining transports to abandon the remaining cargo and industrial modules still in orbit and jump out. The Jupiter transport -a more normal model- provides some covering fire with its weapons while the smaller ships jump.

While hasty the withdrawal is not a panicked rout. Nasidum ships maintain covering formations despite losses as the more valuable ships jump, then follow themselves if possible. They're not able to cover everyone. The Pirates manage to find gaps in their formation to cripple the occasional transport. Crews of the Sledge class ships disable a number of battleships, claiming them as salvage.

The rest of the evacuation is more difficult to interdict. Ships still at the nav station ensure that the guild resumes something approaching normal operations. Anyone in an appropriate outbound zone within five lightyears of the station can be sent jump data.

Daska and two Ruling House Mediums soon contest control of the station, chasing off the remainder of the blockade and getting the navigators to restrict broadcasts until things have calmed down.

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You've accepted the surrender of the Heavy Cruiser. Marines are in the process of taking control of it.

Ruling House forces are moving to sweep enemy territory stating with the region closest to the nav relay.

Previously players seemed to be interested only in salvaging the orbital industry of these regions and leaving them so as to make them less valuable to future invasion attempts. Is that still you plan of action, or do you wish to capture territory for the House or Run Alliance? Keep in mind you could always trade that territory.

[ ] Salvage orbital industry as planned
[ ] Try to capture some territory (Where?)

>>44709961
>[ ] Salvage orbital industry as planned
>[ ] Try to capture some territory (Where?)
Could we try for Magdalena and the orbiting stations?
Otherwise just the orbital industry.

>>44709961
>[ ] Try to capture some territory (Where?)
Secure as much as we can. We can still trade it away later.

I doubt anybody can realistically contest Magalena at this point.

See if we can secure the two isolated territories for Ber'helum.

>Did anybody else feel like we didn't roll enough during the large battle? I know we were trying to reduce the impact of RNG for large fleet operations but this one felt odd.

>>44709961
>[ ] Try to capture some territory (Where?)
Mageenly and pretty much everything else we can reasonably lay claim to
Have our allies nnom the Nasidium pocket and the traitors with local forces. Get as good a barging position we can, then bargin. The RH still has that colony in the run that they might be willing to trade to us

>>44709961
>[ ] Try to capture some territory (Where?)
Another
Laying claim to Magdalena seems the easiest. We already got lots of forces there and have fought there so we can more easily claim it. So yeah. Magdalena territory and all that belongs to that sector/province/area.

Also would not mind all that orbital industry but I guess that goes without saying if we claim the Magdalena territory.

>>44709961
>[ ] Try to capture some territory (Where?)
Magdalena is ours by the right of conquest! Claim it for House Jerik-Dreminth. Territory and land is the most valuable commodity in the world after all.

>>44709961
How about this:
We secure Nasidum space together.

RH gets the sector around their logistics base, J-D gets the sector around Magdalena, Ber'helum takes one of the Nasidum territories further up the run, and we go from there once we've tallied the salvage.

I'd like to see if we can get Ber'helum or Helios some space around the nav station because I really don't want a single house to have control over it again.

>>44710042
>Did anybody else feel like we didn't roll enough during the large battle? I know we were trying to reduce the impact of RNG for large fleet operations but this one felt odd.
This was something I was going to ask. I wanted to try out doing larger battles with minimal rolls if possible.

>>44710042
>See if we can secure the two isolated territories for Ber'helum.
>>44710088
>Have our allies nnom the Nasidium pocket and the traitors with local forces.

Ber'helum is sending a force to deal with the traitors. The rest of their reserves are headed for the Nasidum pocket and would welcome any assistance. Once the remainder of their fleet has finished repairs with the assistance of Forbearance they would like to leave the system to help them.


It looks like you're going to perform a planetary assault. With the marines busy in orbit they won't be able to provide much assistance. This will be the first real test of your army.

The government of Magdalena has undoubtedly seen the results of the battle in orbit but they've kept the planetary shields up, only opening holes long enough for retreating starfighters or shuttles to land.

"They're not responding to our requests to surrender." reports coms.

"Not unusual." Tama informs you. "If they can tie up any troops we land it will keep them from being used on other worlds Nasidum may find to be more valuable. If it takes long enough to secure the planet they might even be able to bring in another fleet before we're completely finished, trapping our army on the ground."

"Do you really think it will take us that long?" you ask.

The Admiral shruggs. "We will have advanced notice if they send a fleet large enough to retake the region. If you want it done quickly I would suggest asking for help from our allies."

[ ] Try to take it by ourselves
[ ] J-D + SRL or other Mercenaries
[ ] Run Alliance
[ ] Run Alliance + additional allies

>>44710579
>[ ] Run Alliance
Let's see how they stack up on the ground.
As for not rolling it felt a little weird but overall not bad as it sped things up.

>>44710579
>[X] Run Alliance
We're in this together. It would also be a nice test to see how things work out on the ground.

>The rest of their reserves are headed for the Nasidum pocket and would welcome any assistance

That one medium still needs a shakedown cruise. We could send it to support Ber'helum forces.

I'd suggest:
1x Medium Cruiser (Support medium) - reserves
1x attack corvette wing - reserves
1x AB squad - as soon as they have been repaired

>Graveyard repair base
We really need that one right now. Secure it as soon as enough forces have been repaired. Prferably without too much SRL help as we could really use the infrastructure.

>Csontos
Keep ships in orbit. If anybody wants that planet, they'll have to pay or ruin their relations with us.

>Other targets
Secure production lines, and worlds that are terraforming candidates.

>>44710579
>[ ] Run Alliance
More specifically Ber'Helum. They probably feel like they need to make it up to us due to bringing traitors to the battle.

>The rest of their reserves are headed for the Nasidum pocket and would welcome any assistance.
I don't feel comfortable sending hurt forces to assist in this. Battlegroup Kill Nasidum needs to rest and recover. If they want assistance I suggest pulling some units from Battlegroup Look-Dangerous-to-Bonrah to help out.

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>>44710834
>I don't feel comfortable sending hurt forces to assist in this. Battlegroup Kill Nasidum needs to rest and recover.
The reserves they're sending would be drawn from the forces that were not sent to fight alongside your main fleet.

You can absolutely send more ships to help them though.

>>44710771
>Csontos
>Keep ships in orbit. If anybody wants that planet, they'll have to pay or ruin their relations with us.
The Ruling House is advancing outwards from the nav relay. If you want Csontos it will mean performing an immediate planetary assault on it.

>Graveyard repair base
>We really need that one right now.
Do you want to send Daska and a unit of less heavily damaged ship to deal with it? You could calling additional reserves to do so as well.

>>44710948
>image
The defence fleet also has a squad of light cruisers from Ber'h. I forgot that one while moving ship icons around.

>You could calling additional reserves to do so as well.
Could you update that image you posted to show which units in the attack fleet are damaged and how much?

>>44710948
>Do you want to send Daska and a unit of less heavily damaged ship to deal with it?
Yeah. Might be good to take that one. Pull like 3 wings and one of the Mediums and some of our other forces we can spare from Magdalena and have her take it.

The rest of our ships in the defensive fleet along with Ber'Helums ships should clear out the traitors and pocket resistance so we then can turn our full attention on Bonrah.

>>44710948
>If you want Csontos it will mean performing an immediate planetary assault on it.
How do the two planes in Nasidum territory compare? Does taking Csontos automatically mean control over that sector, or can we claim territory despite not taking the planet?

>>44710579
Can we just threaten to mass driver them from orbit?

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>>44709961
>[ ] Try to capture some territory (Where?)
Would it be possible to secure this bit of territory? I'm interested in it because it would allow us access to several trade routes not going through the run, while not claiming any existing valuable infrastructure, which should help keeping it secure until we manage to place a station there to get a cut of the trade going on.

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Rolled 8 (1d10)

>>44711030
Here.

The units that went up against the enemy patrol fleet took the worst damage due to SP Torpedo usage and the fact that they were fighting other elite assault corvette units.

>>44711205
You can threaten to do so. Actually doing it will be difficult unless you use SP weapons. You guys haven't taken part in many planetary assaults on more heavily defended and settled planets.

Both planets have full shield coverage. An assault usually entails a steady barrage to open a hole in the shield long enough for transports to reach the surface. They then secure shield generators allowing them to create a hole for more reinforcements from orbit.

>>44711092
Csontos has a 30% larger population and more orbital industry due to its position near the nav station. Both have populations of more than 1 Billion.

>Does taking Csontos automatically mean control over that sector, or can we claim territory despite not taking the planet?
Taking the planet will give you a claim on a large swath of the surrounding space. 5 light years minimum.
Capturing the minor outposts in the space surrounding it is a viable tactic but will take longer.

>>44711552
You could try. It may be harder with Ruling House forces having retaken the nearby logistics base.


Are we still on for Magdalena or are we going elsewhere?

>>44711714
I don't suppose we could make a deal with the RH House that they get one of the planet and we get the other if we help eachother?

If not that then I would stake our claim on Magdalena and hope we can claim the Graveyard repair base as well.

>>44711714
Still for hitting Magdalena with Run Alliance support.

>>44711810
>I don't suppose we could make a deal with the RH House that they get one of the planet and we get the other if we help eachother?
What did you have in mind?

>>44711714
>Here.
Thank you. One of the escort Kilos will require serious repairs?

>Ber'helum support
1x support medium
1x attack corvette wing
1/2x mixeed wing
All from the defence fleet.

>Repair yard
1x Daska
1/2x BB squad
4x undamaged DA/CRV squad

>Other
Send the undamaged AB unit to support the RH units hunting down remaining nasidum and raider ships.

>You could try.
Could we simply ask them? I'm sure when somebody talented in diplomatic matters manages to give them a polite version of: "You owe us for kicking your enemies out, which was your job, keeping your backyard and RH allies secure, which was your job, and tackling the raiders you let through, which you shouldn't have let through your territory in the first place."

>other
Would it be feasible to bring our anchorage in for repairs and salvage ops?

>>44711964
Joint RH and JD planetary invasions of Magdalena and Csontos so we can ensure that the attack goes quicker than if either of us did it alone. We take one of the planets, either Magdalena or Csontos and they take the other one. It ensures that we both get a another colony out of this and it speeds up the resolution of this campaign so we can refocus on other threats and rebuild both the planets defenses for our own use.

It's really rather simple and should benefit us both.

Jesus I should use a survey for this.

>>44712001
>Would it be feasible to bring our anchorage in for repairs and salvage ops?
Absolutely. You want them to salvage the Mediums at the first battle site to begin with?

1)
>>Ber'helum support
>1x support medium
>1x attack corvette wing
>1/2x mixeed wing
>All from the defence fleet.

>>Repair yard
>1x Daska
>1/2x BB squad
>4x undamaged DA/CRV squad

Is there support for one or both of these plans?
1a) Support Ber'helum
1b) Send Daska to capture repair yard
1c) Do both of them
1d) Don't support either plan

>Could we simply ask them?
The Ruling House plans to set up additional patrol and staging bases in the region to stall any future advances into the region. They would accept if you were to build suitable bases and allow them access.
Or alternatively they're looking to contract Houses in the region to construct those bases for them and would be paid handsomely to do so.

2)
a) Take territory and build bases
b) Build bases for sale to Ruling House
c) Nevermind

>>44712055
>>44711810
"As a substantial number of your forces currently occupy the space above Magdalena our House is prepared to cede control of the planet and the region to your Alliance, if you so wish it. As we must hold what troops we have in reserve for potential future combat we're unable to aid you in a planetary assault at this time. We are prepared to loan vehicles and equipment if you require them."

3)
a) Thank them for their cooperation (Take Magdalena)
b) Thank & loan heavy tanks from them (Take Magdalena)
c) Actually we wanted Csontos instead...

>>44712699
There's supposed to be an AC production line somewhere. Have we been able to secure it?

>>44712699
1 C
2 A but with a couple small bases sold to the RH
3 A

>>44712753
...Csontos system.

Magdalena does have corvette lines if that's any consolation.

The Graveyard should have a yard of some kind, maybe for attack cruisers, though a light cruiser yard could be converted easily enough.

>>44712921
>2 A but with a couple small bases sold to the RH
Doesn't work like that. If you want them to give up their claim to the territory there you'll be contractually obligated to build the bases they need.

You could just take a force and occupy the region but then you'll be defending it in the future without their help. You could ask Ber'helum to fund putting bases there instead now that the blockade is falling.

>>44712699
1C
2A
3A

Seems like the best combo for JD gains.

>>44712699
1b
2a
3a

Though maybe look into maybe building some bases for the RH if possible.

>>44713019
>...Csontos system.
C-can... can we loot it?

1c
2a
3a

>>44713019
As an aside, did any of the guns on the Jupiter survive? Those seem like something we might want to mount on the Forbearance, or possibly come up with a military station design that uses them. They also might be perfect for Berlehum's budget helios design

>>44713315
I really hope it's finally time for spreadsheet tier salvage discussion and distribution.

319 SP Torpedoes have been salvaged from the Nasidum fleet by your forces.

>>44713315
>did any of the guns on the Jupiter survive?
Roll 4d100

Rolled 80 (1d100)

>>44713475
>Roll 4d100
1

Rolled 72 (1d100)

>>44713551
2

Rolled 92 (1d100)

>>44713571
3

Rolled 95 (1d100)

>>44713592
4

Rolled 27, 95, 64, 26 = 212 (4d100)

>>44713475

Rolled 87, 48, 3, 28 = 166 (4d100)

>>44713475
rolling bones

>>44713475

>>44713475
Damn. 87, 95, 92, 95 ain't half bad.

>>44713475
Oh, and before I forget, we can salvage the drives to speed up repairs on the heavy

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They're in rough shape, but engineers think they can salvage the remaining siege cannons from the Jupiter. Despite their smaller size you don't really have anything that can mount them.

>Those seem like something we might want to mount on the Forbearance, or possibly come up with a military station design that uses them. They also might be perfect for Berlehum's budget helios design
It may be possible to throw together a turret design using the smaller siege guns that Forbearance could mount. When the ship was upgraded space was set aside so that it could fit 4 of the larger turrets. 2 are currently occupied.
You could probably get them operational for 25 million, or rush them for 50 million.

Mounting them on a dedicated station platform is also an option.
They could be fitted to one of the newer Ber'helum siege designs but only one per ship in which case they might be a bit under powered.

You have time to think about it.

It's become somewhat clearer why a particular ally of Ber'helum turned. There was a Ruling House logistics base inside their territory which Nasidum wanted destroyed. They ordered the attack launched as a distraction for their larger evacuation efforts and the ships they'd provided for the fleet attacked your allies as well as the base.
While damaged, enough response forces were able to rush to the aid of the logistics base before it could be destroyed.
Questions are being raised over how loyal the other Houses in the region may be.

And before I get sidetracked again:
Roll 4d100 for your planetary assault!

Rolled 83, 15, 34, 57 = 189 (4d100)

>>44714533
>Roll 4d100 for your planetary assault!

Rolled 94, 30, 65, 63 = 252 (4d100)

>>44714533
What house betrayed Ber'Helum?

Rolled 70 (1d100)

>>44714533
>Roll 4d100 for your planetary assault!
1

Rolled 15 (1d100)

>>44714600
2

Rolled 43 (1d100)

>>44714622
3

Well, guess the second roll just wasn't supposed to be good.

Rolled 86 (1d100)

>>44714640
4

>>44714533
Could we link two of those siege guns per turret? Can we start building them?

Rolled 19, 85, 32, 24 = 160 (4d100)

>>44714533
Hmm, I know it's probably too much to ask, but could we get more detailed on the relay map sections that J-D is starting to operate in? Right now we have colonies (or just regional capitals?) and some logistics bases, but not other things like yards and rare elements. Going forward it'd be useful information to have if we're taking territory for strategic reason, for long term development or to trade with our allies...

>>44714706
I'll try to work up something for the next game. Which reminds me, I need to get AutoCAD onto this computer

When more troops transports have arrived from other Houses of the Run Alliance you have Forbearance moved to a better position to begin the orbital bombardment. EC-K's and other ships with more powerful sensors and ECCM take constant readings as the big ship opens fire.

Most of the weapons fire is restricted to heavy phase cannons, though the larger Neeran guns are used early on to help soften up the shields. Once they're below 50% Tama has them cease fire for fear of over penetration. Phase cannons switch to wider beams and spread out the damage due to similar concerns.

This is the sort of job that twin linked phase cannons are never used for.

"We're opening a hole." Sensors confirms a few minutes later.

"One kilometer in diameter and expanding."

Once it's passed three kilometers wide the signal is given for the lead transports and LST's to begin their assault. More heavily shielded ships are first followed by starfighters which quickly spread out.

"Ground fire is confirmed. Missiles are attempting to intercept our transports while they're still in the upper atmosphere."

Ground based particle beams, mass drivers, and even specially modified phase cannons are trying to direct what fire they can towards your ships.

Less than a third of the way to the surface once of the assault transports are hit by ground fire, losing shields on one side long enough for smaller weapon hits to damage an engine. Its descent becomes much less controlled but is still slow enough that the landing should be survivable for the troops.

"Damaged transport is off course, but they'll miss any heavily populated areas."

Other ships take some damage as well but in most cases its quantity over quality of the hits.

HAG's and LST's provide fire support, neutralising the defenses of the main spaceport in time for the Assault Transports to make their landing. Another transport takes minor damage during landing from previously hidden weapon emplacements resulting in damage to one of the spaceport terminals as they miss their intended pad.

The General reports that the troops are fine. "Any landing you can walk or drive away from is a good one as far as my people are concened."

Heavy tanks roll out first, taking hits on their much tougher armor and letting those behind them locate the source of fire. HAG's come in as low as they dare, extending shields in some cases to provide cover.
LST's meanwhile drop teams of power cell armor equipped special forces to seize command centers.

Allied HLV's set down on the surrounding landing fields and extend shields until the entire complex is protected from enemy artillery.

Within minutes the General reports that the beachhead is secure and that the tanks are moving towards the capital. Z5P's duel with fighters from the PDF while Burlock's help hunt down tanks and support the troops where HAG's aren't available.

As fighting progresses into the capital the General is forced to call off the HAG's. Their big guns are too powerful for street fighting. Instead they're sent to support LST's and advanced units trying to take the government buildings.

The damaged transport that was thrown off course was assisted by its LST's in making a hard landing out in an area of farmland. Their tanks and troops are rapidly advancing to secure the areas outside the city, overrunning one nearby military base.

Within two hours of the initial landing the capital buildings have been secured along with most of the region within 200 kilometers of the capital. Your House Transport is finishing its refit above Rioja and will be able to begin shipping in troops shortly.

Between you and the others of the Run alliance you've landed 450,000 troops.

How much of your own Army's remaining 200k did you want to bring in to push the invasion along?

All of it to give them some experience? Or would you rather hold some in reserve for an emergency?

(A timeskip of about 1 week will be coming up to finish conquest of the planet.)

>>44716455
Leave a reserve of about 50k

>>44716455
125k?

>>44716400
Bring all of them. Want them all to get some combat experience while no risk of invasion to Rioja is to be had.

>>44716455
I'd say bring in 100k. Leaving half at home just in case some assholes decide to stab us in the back.

>>44716455
>>44716471
Supporting 50k.

140k looks to be a middle of the road number unless you guys want to just go with these two
>>44716500
>>44716651
for 150k.

>>44716780
140 sounds good.

>>44716780
Is okay boss man.

>>44716780
I'll throw my support behind 150k but 10k does not make a huge difference.

Have we gotten any better at mentally controlling the Lightning Gun? Can we curve it around corners yet?

You bring in another 140,000 troops in from Rioja once the transport is ready. A combination of LST's and the two undamaged assault transports transfer them to the surface over the next few days.
Your allies also bring in more of theirs, eventually bringing troop totals up to just under 800k.

Less than a million troops to secure a planet with such a large population may not seem like much, but air and orbital support are excellent force multipliers. There are also rarely cases where governments are unopposed.

Within the first days of the initial assault the fleet is contacted by groups on the surface. Disaffected nobles or officers that didn't want their House to ally with House Nasidum or surrender their territory.
In the face of overwhelming opposition the previous Governor didn't feel like they had a choice.

Some are willing to join your side and fight the remaining Nasidum holdouts in return for some of their former holdings. There are few enough that your diplomats suggest taking them in if only for the media boost they can give you.
The several thousand troops they manage to rally are definitely of value.

As General Rna tells you; "Take the help either way, but you don't necessarily need to pay them back later."

The main fighting has concluded within the week. You control all of the major cities, military bases and planetary shields. The diplomats will get to work hashing out who controls what on the planet. You contributed more than 30% of the troops with the remaining split between 5 other Houses giving Jerik-Dremine a significant say.

With this end of the relay secured for a full week now your enemies have had time to flee back to the Centri cluster. It's not clear right away if they're going to attempt a counterattack with the blockade fleet they'd been keeping at the other end. Your larger ships can be ready for a fight if necessary but the salvaged ones like the Mediums and Heavy won't be.

Within the day there are rumors of a Ber'helum fleet escorting a gravity well generator operating near the periphery of the Centri cluster. It isn't much longer before the Nasidum fleet abandons the remaining blockade and heads for friendly territory.

The orbital shipyards are started up as soon as possible to replace some of your losses in the immediate aftermath of the fighting. Even attack corvettes would be welcome to help recover losses.

Search and recovery teams are picking up pilots and crews that abandoned ship with their emergency teleporters.

The Francis Alfonso has made several runs picking up Medium Cruisers and other ships, towing them back to stations capable of repairing them.

SRL Mercenaries are looking for their promised cut of the spoils but know they're not going to get as much as hoped for. While they provided plenty of fire support helping to disable the Heavy Cruiser, their fleet didn't really get into the heaviest action.
Moving two supers isn't exactly a small undertaking though.

Salvage and other items you have to barter with:

3x Shukhant (Varrying marks & state of repairs)
2x Kilo (Former Forbearance escorts)
3x Carriers
~20x Battleships
Raider Battlecruisers
Attack cruisers
Raider ships
Knight Class
Assault corvettes
Attack corvettes

Newly built ships (EC-K, DA/CRV)
Corvette shipyard (Magdalena, orbital)
Industrial modules (Magdalena, orbital)
Armor upgrades
Logistics support
Materials resources
Money

Is there anything on this list you do not wont to be considered as a possible payment method?
Or alternatively what were you thinking of compensating them with?

>>44718470
Keep the Kilos and a Carrier.

I'll repeat my idea >>44704365 as well.

>>44718470
>Or alternatively what were you thinking of compensating them with?
I recall one anon mentioned giving them unlimited use Aries production licenses (because fuck Aries), but I'm not sure if our remaining licenses are ones he'd even want.

>>44718470
Salvaged Corvettes and Light Cruisers.

Plasma ammo, LD and Medium cannons and better torpedo ammo

Assault Corvettes fresh from the assembly line down in South Reach.

Frigates from our Rioja line.

EC-K. At lest a limited amount of them. Need them ourselves to fill out our weak navy.

One of the stations in orbit of Magdalena? Or perhaps the crippled station?

>>44718622
I like this too. Give them the schematics for something. Should be worth a lot too them.

I also don't think we really have the money to spare to give them. Not at the moment in any case. Rioja made us poor.

I don't want to give away the Battlecruisers, Battleships or the Mediums since they will make up the greatest amount of Heavy Firepower in the fleet once Forbearance is gone.

>>44718470
What do they want, and how much did their services costs.

Would they be interested in a follow-up contract for the region around surakeh if winifred needs any help?

I would assume a merc outfit is more interested in ships capable of multitasking.
Considering we probably managed to salvage a lot of them, how about handing off our vulture class ACs to them? The wiki mentions there often used by mercenaries. The modified exodus battleships might also be of interest to them.

We could also provide more than enough ammo for the scrap can in the form of salvaged suicide corvettes wrecks.

Logistics support also

>>44718470

Before we end our service contract with them, should we chat with that House we cleared out the Bonrah pirate base for?

I recall them mentioning something like 'we would declare war on Bonrah if we had communications with our home/allies'?

We may have some friends looking for work in the immediate area, and if Bonrah's relay were to fall... they could avoid Bonrah space and go home via other Factions relays?

>>44704365
>>44718576
Right forgot about that one.

Well Sonia can have some of the SRL captains over to the cannon facility and do the whole song and dance.

>>44718622
"Cracked" production license for Aries drones and Athena Battleship added.

>>44718781
>What do they want
>I would assume a merc outfit is more interested in ships capable of multitasking.
While a solid preference their leadership really wants things that could boost their economy back home. Industry is an item high on their list.

>and how much did their services costs.
That is up for some debate.

>>44718742
>Frigates from our Rioja line.
That's producing your assault corvettes.

>>44719098
Support for bringing this up Y/N?

Alternatively the Captain of the SRL fleet has an idea for another payment option. Its difficult for them to get hold of anti-torpedo armor. Alternatives of different types have been appearing all over the place but the upgraded versions produced by your House or Iratar are among the best.
If the Forbearance shipyard were to upgrade their two supers they would need to keep the fleet here a bit longer while that was taking place. This is worth much more than their services so far have been worth but would keep them around to potentially counter House Bonrah.

Thoughts?

>>44718470
Alternatively, are there any targets of opportunity the mercy might want want our help with here? Maybe some raiding and whatnot to get loot as opposed to territory? Or we can work out a deal where they operate as privateers and we give them a base to work out of - they get more loot that way.

>>44719231
We upgrade one super at a time while they other one helps out with raiding and threatening if they want to upgrade them.

>>44719271
Sounds like a plan.

I kind of want a non-binding agreement if we go for the armor though, just a "Please never fight us with these."

>>44718470
>Is there anything on this list you do not wont to be considered as a possible payment method?
>3x Shukhant (Varrying marks & state of repairs)
>2x Kilo (Former Forbearance escorts)
They're most likely just going to sell them off, as they're using Sledge cruisers, and these would just complicate the logistics train.

I'd also consider selling those 2 Kilos bad taste after their battle performance.

>1x Carrier
I'd like to keep one to allow our fleets a bit more flexibility. I'm more than read to part with the other two because I don't think we can't afford to spend too many of our potential pilots on fighter craft.

>Assault corvettes
Most of our training and logistics is geared for these. I don't think we should part with them.

>Newly built ships (EC-K, DA/CRV)
EC-K are considered so modern our house wasn't willing to sell them to mercs a few months ago. I think we shouldn't either. DA/CRV are probably wasted on these guys as they're not particularly useful out of combat.

>Corvette shipyard (Magdalena, orbital)
>Industrial modules (Magdalena, orbital)
Lol, no. Infrastructure is important.

>Things that might of interest and aren't listed
Medical stasis technology and teleporter capsules from our factories.

>>44719231
>Support for bringing this up Y/N?
I'm undecided. Does their contract have a clause that prohibits them from engaging in hostilities against previous employers for a set amount of time?

>Thoughts?
I'm a bit uncomfortable giving their supers that much of a boost. What if were to upgrade their medium cruisers instead?

Can we put ABs on Hellcet ACs?

>>44719231
>Thoughts?
No. We are talking loses of BILLIONS of S. Francis, a Heavy Cruise sized ship along costs 450 millions to upgrade with Anti torpedo armor. Two supers... I don't even want to know the cost for that. The material cost alone would be a tremendous cost for something we might not even need.

Just kill me already the idea of doing this is enough to put me on suicide watch.

>Support for bringing this up Y/N?
If we can convice them to fight the Bonrah we can always give them added insensitive that they could help us take a colony or two and they can get some industry from it if we get solo claim on the colony.

>Well Sonia can have some of the SRL captains over to the cannon facility and do the whole song and dance.
Yes, time to bring out the Shark themed complimentary gift baskets.

>>44719338
>I'd also consider selling those 2 Kilos bad taste after their battle performance.
Well we kinda need every Medium we can get our hands on if you ask me. And the Kilo has great potential for adaptability and multitasking.

>I'm a bit uncomfortable giving their supers that much of a boost. What if were to upgrade their medium cruisers instead?
Oh please this. Anything but upgrading those Supers.

>>44719491
>Well we kinda need every Medium we can get our hands on if you ask me

To be honest, I wouldn't mind selling one of the older Shukhants to Ber'helum once we've repaired them.

I don't really like Shukhants. Except for the mk. 3, that one looks glorious.