Hi, internet. It's the new year and therefore I have arbitrarily decided it is time to put my triphat on and find out how much lower opinion of the 1d4chan wiki has fallen. I've made some reasonable site alterations under the hood in the last couple of weeks so now is as good a time as any.So probably the most noticeable change is that I am now redirecting all traffic to https and plain http is thus deprecated, thanks to LetsEncrypt being totally free to use and get a well-trusted certificate from. You now you need have no fear that anyone is packetsniffing whatever horrible pornography it is you can find on my site.I have also abandoned the pitiful stable branch of nginx and switched to mainline for glorious ( and not-yet-feature-complete; come on, server push!) http/2 support, which will make accessing the site marginally faster. Generally though I think the server handles traffic very well and serves pages pretty damn fast, which is good for a bloated php application like mediawiki. This is combined with some tinkering and tweaking of caching to further improve performance and reduce the server load; generally it's all very good.As always, the purpose of the wiki is to be a hopefully useful or at least faintly entertaining resource for /tg/, so if you have any suggestions or recommendations for things that could be done to make it better I am all ears. One thing I've been on the fence about lately is improving mobile support, as roughly half of the traffic now comes from mobile devices, and the desktop site is rather shit for a handheld screen; I'm running the MobileFrontend extension at the m. subdomain, but it's not exactly well-used. I'm considering installing a new responsive skin as a catch-all, but that's a fairly major change.
>>44628812No comment other than thanks, m8.7 or 8 years ago I stumbled upon the wiki and through it, /tg/ and 4chan. You're a pretty cool fag, I'd buy you a drink of I saw you.
>>44628927>7 or 8 yearsNewfag.
>>44628812I came here to post this: you are doing God's work, please do carry on.
>>44628927>>44629132No problem.>>44629060I assume this is positive feedback.You were cool too, guy who deleted his post.
>>44628812Thank you for your hard work wikifag
similar to >>44628927 , I discovered 1d4chan in 2009 or 2010, and from there went to sup/tg/ and finally lurking here until somewhere between 2010 and 2012. Now I'm trapped here and I can't escape. You're a fucking faggot.I salute thee, Wikifag.
Hi WikifagThanks for reminding me to check my email re: VGP websiteSo was the fingerprint changed?
>>44628812Just wanted to stop by and say that your site wound up introducing me to the world of /tg/ and tabletop gaming. Thanks man, keep it up.
I got to read Old Man Henderson for the first time thanks to your site. You're alright, Wikifag.
>>44629465Oh yeah, presuming you mean you're trying to SSH in now, I regenerated host keys a while ago while entering the brave new world of using ed25519 for as much as possible. You should be seeing c0:ba:2d:c3:a8:c7:b7:d1:f4:5c:7c:ba:31:7a:c1:06 if by some miracle your client asks after ed25519 keys, or more likely a1:25:c0:8e:71:6b:b9:fb:19:35:86:65:28:04:81:f9 as the rsa fingerprint.
>>44628812You are a cool guy, OP. Keep up the superb work, we all appreciate it.
>>44629593OK, I will try that when I get home. I assume these server shenanigans are the reason why all the pdf links are broked?
You're a pretty swell guy, Wikifag.
>>44629399>>44629476>>44629568>>44629604Cool.>>44629633I'm not sure that's my fault, but I suppose it's always possible; looking in your folders I can see that everything seems to still be there, but there seems to be a lot of discrepancy between the paths you're linking to and where the files actually are. It looks like you got halfway through moving things around at some point and then got distracted by something shiny and wandered off.
1d4chan is okay, and I owe it a lot - I spent some time there before I actually lurked on /tg/.I have no real complaints with it, even if I don't spend too much time there now. It all works fine for me, no errors while browsing. Maybe it's just me, but it's gotten a little less humorous and a little more informative about many of its articles - not sure if that's a bad or good thing.
>>44629710>It looks like you got halfway through moving things around at some point and then got distracted by something shiny and wandered off.That was my first thought as well, but I thought all the links worked fine this summer; I only started getting email complaints about them in October.Then again I have no idea how computers work so it was probably the thing you said.
>>44629680>>44629688You're welcome.>>44629796I have an aversion to taking a strong stance on editorial policy. Certainly I'm not trying to encourage it one way or the other. I expect it comes down somewhere to information being objective and humour being subjective, so when you have the choice between something "funny" and something dry you'll see less objection to the latter. Plus jokes don't always age well.>>44629852I don't remember doing anything significant to the place in october. Do you want me to poke it now and edit your links so they least point to whatever it looks like they're supposed to be, or leave it to you?
>>44628812I just want to say thanks. It's a cool, useful place.
>>44629916>Do you want me to poke it now and edit your links so they least point to whatever it looks like they're supposed to be, or leave it to you?If you could, that would be great, since I have the dumbs.
>>44628812People bash it, but it's occasionally a useful tool and always good for a laugh. So yeah. Solid A there. Not sure what to say except it's working as intended. Good that you're improving things behind the scenes.
Any possibilities of an app for mobile or is that way too much work?
Thanks wikifag, 1d4chan's a huge part of /tg
Can we make a push to update the wiki to be more in line with modern /tg/? I admit I haven't been in awhile, but last time I checked it was still full of Matt Ward jokes, which is like complaining about steroids in baseball, except that at least steroids are still around.
>>44630048Developing a mobile app would take way more time and energy than I have. However, I do want to make the site more mobile friendly. As I mentioned in the OP, I have set up the subdomain m.1d4chan.org which is serving the MobileFrontend extension and is much nicer to use on phones, so try that out and see if you like it. It doesn't offer all the features of the desktop site though. I am of a mind to start trialling a responsive skin like Foreground, but making that the default would be a relatively major change.>>44630119>>44630029>>44629952Thanks chums.>>44629956Okay, I've done that. You had a couple files which had picked up .pdf.pdf extensions somehow and a couple of things that were not in the specified folder but I think all your links work now. You may wish to tidy them up or whatever.
>>44630192Everything is awesome, thanks Wikifag!
>>44630127Maybe just create a template that says "Warning: this page contains jokes which were barely topically relevant four years ago"? Less effort. But feel free to try and update things you see are out of date, so long as you're not practicing any historical revisionism.>>44630209No problem. I'm glad you're still seeing enough interest you actually get complaints when it stops working.
>>44628812Your website is cancerous. Please end it.
>>44630236Alas, the removal of cancerous websites is not covered on the NHS and I don't have the funds to go private. Should I set up an indiegogo campaign?
>>44630127It's a wiki dipshit. You do it.Also, modern /tg/ is a shadow of its former self
1d4chan was how I first stumbled across /tg/. I came across it when googling wargames, migrated to the archive, and eventually came here.Keep on rocking Wikifag.
>>44628812More pictures for all my favorite articlesMore race stats for PF/5e
>>44630264As the posts in this thread have revealed, 1d4chan is a newfag gateway that preserves too many of /tg/s worse aspects to make the Reddit migration easier.
>>44630236Thank you reddit
>>44629081Don't I know it.
>>44630354Ironically, newfags/redditors are a lot more susceptible to ebic maymay spouting, including spamming "X is bad" to fit in and calling everything they don't like reddit and newfaggotry.
Frankly, 1d4chan is a better resource for /tg/ related information than most others. I really appreciate your efforts, friend
>>44630354I am starting to become slightly concerned that more people have found /tg/ from 1d4chan than the other way around, but there's not a lot I can do about that now. 44M posts in, /tg/ hardly has the exclusive culture it did back in the heady days of 2008. It would be nice to know some kind of usage metrics for /tg/ though so I could compare it to the traffic 1d4chan gets.>>44630291Out of curiosity, how did all you people keep finding 1d4chan in the first place if not for /tg/?>>44630469That's a depressing statement about the quality of other resources.
>>44630264Are you the guy my brother met at Birmingham university?
>>44630556Probably. I studied at the UoB and some of the people I knew there knew about the wiki and my role in it. That was a few years ago though and I'm no longer in the area.
>>44630316I hate pictures like this.I don't know whether to save it under "Characters" or "Encounters" so it just ends up in "Unsorted".
>>44630746You save a copy to both.
>>44630652Good to know, I'm one of the got into 1d4chan first but you can blame that on my brother reading it and then I spent some time lurking on tg.As we're talking about 1d4chan what does everyone think needs updating?
>>44630746>>44630757Or avoid wasting space and use a proper filesystem; pick one and symlink it from the other.
>>44628812fix the LOTFP pageits written by an SJW
>>44630847I see that the page is mainly a micro-rant about the author, but I don't really see how it's come across to you as ragingly SJW. Did a word choice trigger you?
>>44628812well speaking of mobiles its not just old internet explorer the new https breaks my phone cant access it anymore either although its worth noting its old as fuck and im getting a new phone today anyway so its not that big a deal for me.things seem to be going pretty good. keep up the good work wikifag.
>>44630904also its interesting to hear that so much of the traffic is now mobile.
>>44630904What kind of phone were you using? According to the Qualys SSL Labs testing tool we're pretty good for compatibility with everything except crappy old IE and out of date Java clients.>>44630950Over the last month, traffic breaks down as roughly 50% desktop, 40% mobile and 10% tablet, for however accurate Google Analytics is at working that out. I'm kind of surprised at those numbers too, as the wiki's default display really isn't mobile friendly and I know google ranks down mobile-unfriendly pages in searches from those devices. Not to mention people putting up with the wiki on tiny phone screens; I can barely tolerate it when I've checked on my phone, it's awful.
>>44630264Do it, Dr. Evil. For one million dollarydoos.
>>44630532Back in high school, I started getting interested in 40k, and was obsessed with finding out as much as I could. 1d4chan kept coming up, so I lurked on 1d4chan for months-a year, then lurked on sup/tg/ for months-a year, and then finally lurked on /tg/ itself for months-a year until I was 18 and allowed to post. This was years ago, back when sup/tg/ wasn't flooded by quest threads.I never used any online forums or community based websites before I discovered 4chan aside from BZPower (I always hated making accounts on websites) and I haven't used any since.
>>44631400I suspect 40K will be the largely common factor when it comes to such tales. At least you had the decency to lurk.I share your distaste of having to register for things; 4chan was fairly formative for me in that regard, and thus I've held to a policy of enabling and supporting anonymous contribution in the stuff I do. I do try and tell people off for registration elitism if I see it happening, but I don't patrol the wiki too hard.
>>44628812Sometime ago (months or so), I was working on copyright licensing stuff, and got interested in what license 1d4chan was under. It's currently CC-BY-NC-SA, but was under the GNU FDL (presumably the default for MediaWiki installs) until sometime early 2013. What motivated the change?(TVTropes changing unilaterally from CC-BY-SA to CC-BY-NC-SA bugged me, and inspired the creation of "AllTheTropes" from the pre-change archive, but I'm not so bothered by 1d4chan's change. Given how much of our content is derived from stuff owned by Hasbro and/or Games Workshop, any attempted commercial exploitation of that content would be frowned upon by much larger legal forces than little old us...)
>>44628812Opinion has fallen because your site is just a place for Warhammer maymays when /tg/ is jumping ship from Warhammers.
mildly contentless post but just piping up to say you do God's work, Wikifag, keep it up <3
>>44630800Pageviews need to come back. Its how I used to tell bullshit someone came up with apart from actual things /tg/ came up with.
>>44631704Also so I can see how many people have read my smutfics.
>>44631445I can't fathom why people would start posting on a site without lurking to get a sense of the culture/rules/functionality, and decide whether is right for them, before taking part. I lurked on BZPower for a year or two before actually making an account.
>>44631531Long enough ago that I'm afraid I can only guess at my motivations. I suspect I was learning about new configuration options at the time as to why it changed. BY and SA are obvious choices; NC I guess I just don't like the idea of people taking someone else's work and making money on it without agreement. A little hypocritical given I run advertising on the site, really, but I need the income now, and I figure advertising to support a platform isn't ethically comparable to selling prints of someone else's art, or whatever.>>44631600It is what users make it. I guess the Warhams fans are more motivated to edit.>>44631671Thanks.>>44631704Unfortunately pageviews were taken out of mediawiki core many versions ago and they're actually a reasonable performance hit on a relatively high traffic wiki - having to update counters on every hit adds a lot of overhead, plus with caching mechanisms in place you can't even guarantee that any particular request will actually end up hitting the relevant code. I made noises about trying to export this kind data from google analytics a while ago (can't do hits for all time, but can do hits for the last X time period) but it turns out it's actually kind of a pain in the arse to try and do in any kind of usable fashion. I might have another go at it when I have some time this weekend.
>>44630532I think I learned about sup/tg/ first, then 1d4chan. I don't remember what led me there, but looking back at the oldest images in my /tg/ folder, it might have been monstergirl related...I definitely remember thinking "this sup/tg/ place has cool stuff, but I wish more threads would come up each day" and only later realizing (from the main page, which I had never visited before -- always looked the "archive" index) that it was an archive of the best stuff (in some people's opinion) that was happening somewhere else.
>>44628812Thanks for keeping it up. 1d4chan may not be perfect but I've found it a great place to start with tons of useful knowledge.
>>44628812Thank you for your work, Wikifriend.The most obvious thing that comes to my mind for advice would be: Storytimes are a big part of /tg/ culture, the biggest it could be argued, and the only way a newfag can find the real classic is by hearsay and maybe "best of /tg/" threads very occasionally(the good stuff never gets actually screenshotted, like STORYTIEM's stuff). There is a ton of gold on suptg yet that nobody who came five or less years ago has seen. You should get a bunch of oldfags together for a remembrance session, and add some links.I'll admit to being a questfag, but also like /tg/ grognardy. It's a shame if cool stuff is lost in time. Undermines board culture like nothing in the present can.
>>44631704>>44631746>>44631788Actually it looks like there is an extension to track pageviews, but it's not supported for 1.26 yet. I'll keep an eye on it and try it out when it gets updated, see how well it works.
>>44631746>it's been half a decade since I wrote Catfight LesbiansGoddammit
Just passing through. Thanks for all the effort you're putting on this, Wikifag. Keep it up!
>>44631946Yeah, it's sobering to look back at it all and realise how long I've been hosting the damn thing. Like eight years ago I thought "Wikifag" was a great name to use, or that apache was a good webserver.>>44631994Don't overestimate the amount of effort I put into this. By and large the place ticks over without my intervention and it's only occasionally the fey mood strikes and I do something productive to the place.
You are the hero we need.Everyone always wants to write up cool settings but when it comes to documenting them, very few are ready to step up to the plate to do it.We need more people like you.Also>>44630236Get out.
Damn you're still at it OP?Nice work.
>>44630898A particular breed of SJW dislikes the art direction that SotFP takes (in short: the protagonist characters in the art are all women. Often, bad things happen to them. This is bad, apparently.). Personally, there's way more you can joke about with LotFP (like, uh, casting summon and trying to work out what the fuck happens when you get The Equation).
>>44632183Well, I don't really do it, I'm just hosting a place where you can do it if you want.>>44632239Amazingly enough I have managed to keep the site running all this time despite my incredible incompetence.>>44632247Fair enough. I don't really know LotFP so I can't comment on the content.
I have to sleep now but I will check thread and reply to any inquiries in the morning assuming it survives that long.
>>44632562Yet another anon here who arrived here from your wiki. Thanks for keeping it going, mate, I've had hours of entertainment from it.
>>44632562Cheers Wikifag sweet dreams
I want footnote capabilities.
I have difficulty making templates and have to resort to copying a different template and tweaking it through trial and error. A guide on how to make templates would be nice. I think we had one, but I can't find it and the guide was not finished.
Add pages for the projects in the Game Design General.
>>44628812I joined 4chan in 2005, but I didn't get into /tg/ until about 2009, when I decided to make a plug for trying out "D&D-like stuff".Several years on, I'm now a D&D player who has founded several roleplaying groups that have, in some cases, gone on to run the homebrew system I made in 2010 in corners as far as other continents, and I'm about a month away from starting my third epic-length DMing campaign in this system.Without 1d4chan, I don't think I would've had the creative drive to make such things, as the lore and suggestions of games past have been a massive help in that regard. It's been invaluable to me, not just as a homebrew DM, but as a relatively new D&D player, and as a sort of knock-on, I'm fairly certain it's indirectly responsible for our new FLGS of about three years gathering speed (my gaming tribe were almost the entirety of its initial customer base, and we told friends, and they told friends, and they told friends...).Thanks, Wikifag. You're alright.
I remember a lot of good times reading 1d4chan on bus rides during my late teens, thanks OP.Godspeed, hope wherever you are in life is going well.
>>44631066>What kind of phone were you usingA Nokia C5-00Works fine on my new nexus six though.
>>44632562I have to thank you for allowing a known quest thread to have it's info page be hosted on your site. It got me off my backside and got me to get into a passion that help changed my life for the better.
>>44630532I came to /tg/ as a migrant from /v/. Mainly because I was tired of /v/ and its bullshit. Someone mentioned 14dchan off hand while I was lurking /tg/ one day and that's how I found it. So I guess I found the it almost around the same time I came here.I will say that 1d4chan plus /tg/'s love of Dwarf Fortress, SS13, my budding interest in RPGs and the fact I enjoyed W40k were the reasons I stayed.
>>44628812I use your wiki to drag people to Ops and Tactics.So yeah, shit's good bro. Keep it up.
Thanks for running the site, it's a very useful resource.
Just burn the Unified Setting pages and all shall be well.
>>44628812The Lamentations of the Flame Princess article is absolutely terrible, a stub, and is fraught with blatant misinformation about several things both relevant and irrelevant.Someone fix it, for god's sake.
>>44637021I don't know how many times people have been told to do it themselves in this thread, but I think you just earned another one.
>>44637053>I don't know how many times people have been told to do it themselves in this threadBy my count, zero.
Delete your empty pages and remove the links to them, please. It's very disappointing to click on something and get a page with only a header.
>>44631946>it's been 8 years since orkquisitorson of a bitch
>>44628812Thanks for maintaining 1d4chan, wikifag. While some of the articles seem dated, there are a lot of neat ones. Handy to look through every so often and find some ideas I didn't notice before.
>>44631400>and then finally lurked on /tg/ itself for months-a year until I was 18 and allowed to postReally?
>>44637207>all these people who don't know what the fuck is a wiki
>>44637207What are you using? Dead links should appear red.
>>44628812Cheers and Happy New Year Wikifag. 1d4chan was just the gateway drug I needed to full /tg/ neckbeardery.
>>44628812I fucking love 1d4chan. You're a hero, Wikifag. Keep it up!
>>44637615>>44637776They're real pages, with word links in articles, but there is no text on the page. I've seen several.
>>44628812Thanks dude, people like you is what keeps this whole thing running!
>>44632814The normal wiki techniques for referencing work, which is how people normally do footnotes. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Footnotes - we don't have the templates but the parser tags should be correct.>>44633952>>44637021Yeah, the whole point of a wiki is that you can do these things to it! You don't even have to register.>>44637158see>>44630866>>44637207>>44637776>>44638341The problem is that rather than just leaving the Deletion template on a contentious page everyone seems to feel the need to blank the content entirely, which is irritating and I wish they'd stop doing it. It might be shitty content, but page blanking only makes it confusing and causes more effort for anyone who comes over the page and wants to judge whether or not it should actually be deleted.
1d4chan was how I found /tg/, and a lot of stuff I've written has ended up on there, some of which I almost wish to forget exists. But I don't undertsnad the hate for 1d4chan. It's a free wiki. If you have a beef with it, edit it. Instead of complaining, get off your arse and do your bit for 1d4chan to unfuck it up.That's the real problem. Not enough people are willing to invest time into 1d4chan, but are perfectly willing to slam it on /tg/ all the time. Next time someone complains about it, they should go and work on it themselves to make it the way they think it should be.
>>44633030The metawiki has guidance on how templates work, see: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:TemplateBut assuming you mean grid and table layout issues, yeah, that's some kind of voodoo and I've never bothered myself.
>>44636949Why? It isn't actually that bad from what I read.Cheesy fantasy with comfy feels.
I mostly go to 1d4chan to 1. read about Orks or 2. to check up on systems I'm interested in testing. More Ork pages please!
>>44628812Despite what anyone might say about how bad 1d4chan might be, it's better than no 1d4chan.We love you <3
>>44628812My opinion has always/will be high for 1d4chan. It's what I use to initiate people into the grimdark and where I go to get those comfy feels, thanks for what you do m8. If I ever run into you, drinks on me.
>>44637316Wait are you serious? Holy fuck what am I doing with my life?
>someone fix this page>I don't like the text on this page>this page has outdated info, why>there's no page for [thing]Jesus Christ, do none of you understand how a society works? You have to actually do something to get results.
>>44641579And you are somehow surprised by this being the case here why?
>>44628812Its basically tv tropes if made by tg
>>44630898Its more about Raggai than the gameand the article's original author admits to never having played the game
>>44643636Is that a bad thing?
>>44648634depends on how you feel about unfunny autistic sperging and memes
>>44648719Those are the exact things I come to 4chan for.
i just go to 1d4chan from time to time to laugh at the elf page