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You are Sonia Reynard, Baron of Rioja. One small world among many in the House of Jerik-Dremine. From it you control the fates of a dozen others in the so called Smuggler's Run. With your new position you have the opportunity to become one of the most influential people in your House.

It is from this world that you will draw your future fleets and armies from. It is becoming increasingly clear to everyone that those armies are needed now.

While you are still a General in the Factions Alliance Fleet, you remain on reserve status due to the civil war. It's doubtful you'll be able to assist them with the war against the Neeran for some time.

As the Dominion begins to slip deeper into civil war you and those under your command have been fighting to protect your little corner of known space.

Knight Captain Katherine Drake is your fleet's Wing Commander. She's been working hard to make sure your attack wings are fully trained and manned. With as much experience in the field as you there are few better to rely on.

Uyi Rna is the General of your Army. The ground forces have been expanding as quickly as they can and are drilling constantly. Army bases out in the wilderness of Rioja have been set up to practice maneuvers and planetary assaults. Most of the experienced personnel are used to working with Dominion built HLV's not Kavarian Assault transports. It's taken a bit of getting used to but most have caught on.
The General is confident that with enough time they'll be able to take on anything, but warns that an extended surface campaign would wear down your low numbers of heavy tanks.
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>>44393111
Woop, House and Dominion Knight Madman reporting in for salvage duty.
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>>44393111
For House And Dominion!
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>>44393111
FOR HOUSE AND DOMINION

Sonia saved Christmas edition.
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Wiremu Tama is the admiral of your Fleet. He's been working extensively with Drake to make sure the starfighter forces can act in concert with the attack wings. He has some concerns that you may not have enough dedicated ground attack craft for a planetary assault.

Small numbers of the Z5Z starfighter have been bought from House Ber'helum since they've become available for sale. Their performance is higher than most other attack bombers, but they have less carrying capacity than the Republic Type-6. Given their nature as a multirole craft this isn't especially surprising.

Fadila Saqqaf is your leading diplomatic adviser. Assigned by the Earl after your request for a team more experienced in the intricacies of inter-house relations, she's been a welcome addition. Her team has been working to present evidence on House Bonrah's complicity in the pirate attacks to Houses as yet undecided on who to side with.
The Terrans meanwhile are starting to crack down on trade through their nearby Relay into Bonrah space. They've stepped up inspections and have begun to block warships from easy acces to navigation data needed for the long jumps into the relay. It's still not stopping some but at this rate it will only be a matter of days until there is a major diplomatic incident.

When that happens the Terrans will probably lock down all but essential trade.

The courier ships your House uses to maintain contact with the homeworlds may soon face troube passing through Terran space. Will you tell them to try and sneak through or around checkpoints? Or should they make certain to submit their ships for inspection by Terran Customs?
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>>44393308
>The courier ships your House uses to maintain contact with the homeworlds may soon face troube passing through Terran space.

Can we get a diplomatic visa for them from the Terrans?
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>>44393308
Can we work with the Terrans on this one? I'd really like if they were able to pass through normally, without inspection preferably.

We've always tried to play it straight with the Terrans and keep them happy, so I imagine we could do a deal.
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>>44393111
>but warns that an extended surface campaign would wear down your low numbers of heavy tanks.

Would it be possible to get some of those new heavy tanks from Phobos, now that they're part of the run defence pact?
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>>44393308
>Will you tell them to try and sneak through or around checkpoints? Or should they make certain to submit their ships for inspection by Terran Customs?

No good to antagonize the Terrans right now when we've made a public stance against piracy. Let the Terrans perform their inspections of our courier ships if they really want to. However it goes without saying that they do not get access to our data packages that we send along and the like.

Hopefully we can begin to starve Bonrah forces while expanding our own allies in the area so that when they are forced to act we can wreak them with the full might of an allied fleet.
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>>44393308
Are we doing anything to support the ruling house in the relay at this point?
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>>44393405
Well we've fought with the Nasidum raiders. Costing them several ships and humiliating them, and the RH to a certain point, while doing it. Once we've secured all the other Houses in the run we can either deal with them or Bonrah depending on who is the most pressing threat to the area. But knowing us we'll probably fight both at the same time and the RH will lose all their ships leaving us to pick up the slack.
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>>44393308
Could we make an arrangement where a small group of Terran marines/diplomats is picked up when our diplomatic ships jump into the relay, and is dropped off before they head out?

In theory, it would allow our diplomatic ships to avoid delays and allow the Terrans to conduct spot inspections during their time aboard. We'd be encouraged to keep this deal legit, to avoid delays, as well.

>>44393405
Yes and No.

We gave Nasidum a bloody nose for messing with a JD convoy, but it really didn't cost them that many ships, or valuable ships.

We're containing Bonrah's pirate attempts, which is hopefully driving Houses in the relay into the other Major House camps, including the RH.

But we haven't risked say a direct confrontation with Nasidum's forces. I'd very much like to focus on leaving some of their new holdings as unsalvageable scrap fields or even conduct Maelstrom-style snatch and grabs, but we have pirates to focus upon.
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>>44393405
You're wiping out pirates and keeping the main trade lanes through the relay open. With that help the Ruling House has been able to maintain access to its logistics bases much more easily.


>>44393348
>Can we get a diplomatic visa for them from the Terrans?
>>44393372
>Can we work with the Terrans on this one?
While you've provided data they don't want to look like they're playing favourites. As long as the couriers aren't warships or carrying cargo like weapons or ships to be assembled after delivery its doubtful they'll be stopped.

With that in mind the House does send you hardware like tanks and you occasionally send the newer torpedoes.

You could tell the couriers to sneak through only when they're carrying war Materiel, restrict those shipments to specific ships, or just hold off until its time to blitz the Nasidum lines again.

Of course if the Terrans see your ships running for it half the time they may drag out searches when they're not carrying goods.

If interested in restricting weapon shipments to specific ships there are plenty of old or retired smugglers you could hire. Your House did employ many of those that you captured back in the day in the role of honest transport crews.
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>>44393166
>Urtanim
There's a LoGH screencap for every situation.

>>44393747
Could we simply send the weapon shipments through the Rovinar relays on CX transports? They can make a lot of jumps not open to any transports the factions usually build.
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>>44393747
Why don't we just Declare the tanks as being part of the cargo to Rioja? you know like you would declare alcohol in your bags at an airport .we are a new colony with a Burgeoning defense force afterall
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>>44393802
Probably because the Terrans are about to put an arms embargo in place.
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>>44393747
Random questions before I forget:
We should probably look into up gunning the Francis Alphonso while we are here. Or increasing its armor and shields. Should probably get some minions making a few proposals.
Also, I made a House Medel (in-exile) page on the wiki, should probably give it a look to ensure I didn't do anything terribly wrong when you have time. I suppose we should also consider "selling" our private house transport to him at some point. It would be good propaganda for him, and he currently doesn't have any carrier/troopships so he'd actually use it.
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>>44393747
TSTG, is it okay if I merge the Monitor Class and Medium Fire Support Cruiser pages on the wiki?
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>>44394004
That reminds me, I wonder what happened to House Erid's House Transport?
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>>44393703
Conduct an in-flight inspection during the time they're in Terran space? Interesting idea. I'm not entirely certain they'd go for it since there are a number of things that can go wrong with the inspectors out of contact.

>>44393782
>Could we simply send the weapon shipments through the Rovinar relays on CX transports?
Yes. That's how most of the trade is having to go in and out of the relay. Just be aware that the Helios fleet was ambushed trying to head in that way. Not that it'll make much difference to the ships that use it on a regular basis but larger convoys could be in danger.

>>44394004
>We should probably look into up gunning the Francis Alphonso while we are here.
Giving them better torpedoes for their batteries would be a good start.

>>44394054
Sure, please do so. I hadn't noticed it or I wouldn't have put up a new page.

>>44394066
Their former Earl still had it. It's been sent to the Ruling House as a symbolic gift in order for them to found a new House. Not that people haven't founded Houses without them.
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>>44394189
To put it shortly. We need to kick either Bonrah or Nasidum out of the Relay in order to establish a proper supply line back to the House. Preferably Nasidum as that is the shortest route they take.
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>>44394189
> That's how most of the trade is having to go in and out of the relay. Just be aware that the Helios fleet was ambushed trying to head in that way.

Why didn't they take the J-22 jump directly from NAV ROV 3? Same question for our transports.
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>>44394189
What's the Republic doing with the ships that aren't too useful against the Neeran but still decent against older Dominion equipment?
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>>44394302
>Why didn't they take the J-22 jump directly from NAV ROV 3? Same question for our transports.
Because the station Nasidum is blockading provides nav data for those three lanes. It'll mean passing through the blockade on this side at the very least.

>>44394325
They've been refurbishing and upgrading most for use by their reserves since they refuse to be without fleets to defend their space. Some of the older ones are being sold to mercenaries minus their plasma weapons.

So, courier ships continue to go through Terran relays, they shouldn't try to sneak through.

Fast transports taking the back way through Rovinar space for moving munitions, vehicles and the like?

Anyone else having trouble with 4chan today? Or is it just my browser / ISP?
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>>44394553
>So, courier ships continue to go through Terran relays, they shouldn't try to sneak through.
>Fast transports taking the back way through Rovinar space for moving munitions, vehicles and the like?
Sounds about right. Also, our cloaked ships should shadow Nasidium right now. If they can catch a decent force with there pants down we might be willing to authorize a strike.
And generally rotate units and commanders on and off pirate hunting duties.
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>>44394553
Sounds like a solid plane as we're going to get until we can stabilize the area more.

No problem what so ever, yet.
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>>44394553
>Because the station Nasidum is blockading provides nav data for those three lanes.

Can our transports get around that problem somehow?

>Fast transports taking the back way through Rovinar space for moving munitions, vehicles and the like?

I'm okay with that.

4chan is working fine for me atm.
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>>44394189
>Giving them better torpedoes for their batteries would be a good start.
We should do that. Also armor upgrades if feasible. I seem to recall that was a major weakness of the current setup, and the Royal House currently has a large armor facility it can't export much from. Which we partially own.
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>Would it be possible to get some of those new heavy tanks from Phobos, now that they're part of the run defence pact?
They'll deploy their ground forces to assist any of the allies that are under attack, but for the moment Knight Commander Darrow is under orders from his house to not sell the new weapons to anyone they didn't have previous agreements with.

>>44394598
>Also, our cloaked ships should shadow Nasidium right now. If they can catch a decent force with there pants down we might be willing to authorize a strike.
>And generally rotate units and commanders on and off pirate hunting duties.
Sound good to everyone?

Some of the ships and crews have been rotating out but the Commanders haven't previously been doing so.

News:

Bekka and several other officers from rich families were targeted for kidnapping on Surakeh. Bekka is annoyed but unharmed and many of the would be kidnappers were taken alive. They know little beyond their handler's contact information.
Winifred has her people working on it.

Baron Khyor Binil is forced to call off plans to take over pirate hunting duties in the central oversector following an incident on Kaartinen. Terrorists have threatened to detonate a nuclear warhead in the largest city in the southern hemisphere unless their demands are met.
They're demanding House Binil hand over their half of the planet and its defenses to the northern most independent nation. Apparently the other countries are having a bit of a feud at the moment.

Trade with Binil had been remaining steady despite the disagreements but now with infighting taking place all point defense artillery shipments have been suspended.

Do you want to offer any support to the Baron and the Governor?
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>>44395160
We've got people with Covert Ops Cloaks.
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>>44395160
>Do you want to offer any support to the Baron and the Governor?
What do they need at this stage? More than anything we need to keep the Run stable and not let it fall to in-fighting. If we need to park a ship in orbit and mass-driver and rebels looking to cause trouble then we should do it.
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>>44395160
>Do you want to offer any support to the Baron and the Governor?
Does Eldal think he could scare some sense into the people involved with the terrorist threats?

Maybe have Sonia remind people that the deal they currently have is very good and has been working out to everybody's advantage so far.
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>>44395160
>Sound good to everyone?
We should probably keep the cloaked BB back in case of emergencies in our territory.

It's also easier to detect, I think. So I'd prefer to keep it away from a modern fleet if possible.
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>>44395138
>Also armor upgrades if feasible
Warship armor is fairly expensive. If I remember correctly it was 150 millions for it? Plus it takes extensive time to retrofit it. Weapons and other upgrades like it however would probably be much cheaper and easier to retrofit it with. Perhaps we could even mount some LD guns on it along with Torpedo batteries, heavy missile launchers and Heavy Phase batteries to really give it the feeling of a ship you do not really want to to get close to.

>>44395160
Offer them what support we can. Be it a squadron of Corvettes in orbit or some of our intelligence forces.
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>>44395209
>What do they need at this stage?
Infiltrators would be a welcome addition.
>If we need to park a ship in orbit and mass-driver and rebels looking to cause trouble then we should do it.
A few ships in case this were necessary probably wouldn't hurt.

Intel believes some of the pirates you intercepted trying to make a run to Kaartinen may have been planning to supply arms to the terrorists. At the moment they don't know if they're simply locals that they were going to support, or a special forces unit brought in by Nasidum or Bonrah.

>>44395232
>Does Eldal think he could scare some sense into the people involved with the terrorist threats?
He's not certain how effective he would be at scaring them compared to anyone else. It might be possible for him to neutralize one or more of the terrorists and learn from them where the warhead is located.

[ ] Send Recon team
[ ] Send Eldal
[ ] Send Negotiators

In the event that a show of force from orbit becomes necessary how far are you prepared to go?
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>>44395160
We should probably deliver a reminder to the Northern Nation that these terrorists are making demands that basically amount to a declaration of war against Binil, which is part of the Run Alliance, while the Faction it is part of is in a state of Civil War.

If they do not outright reject the demands of the terrorists, command them to surrender peacefully, and begin making moves to negotiate a peaceful resolution of the issues that have caused this...

Well, the Northern Nation is going to pretty much cease to exist. Hurray for the people we saved from nukes consolidating Dominion power on the planet by being idiots!
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>>44395449
>[x] All of the above

Infiltrators to work within the enemy. Negotiators to try to work out the problems from the outside.

>In the event that a show of force from orbit becomes necessary how far are you prepared to go?

This is a Binil matter on Binil territory so we should thread carefully. We should let them handle any forceful action on their own unless they either risk losing their territory, the enemy become space born or an imminent disaster(such as a nuclear strike) is about occur.
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>>44395449
>[X] Send Recon team
>[X] Send Eldal
>other
Ask the other independent nations if they would be willing to help. If I remember correctly, J-D has good relations with a few of them.

What if the northern nation officially states they would refuse to accept Binil's land if it happens under these circumstances? Would that help? Would the nation be willing to do that?
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>>44395449
>[ ] Send Recon team
>[ ] Send Negotiators
>>44395449
>In the event that a show of force from orbit becomes necessary how far are you prepared to go?
What Binil asks for, it gets within reason.
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>>44395449
>In the event that a show of force from orbit becomes necessary how far are you prepared to go?

That's a good question. As far as we did last time we were fighting on this planet?
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>>44395449
>[ ] Send Recon team
>[ ] Send Eldal
The way I see it how we handle this will affect perceptions of how willing we are to help allies in the over sectors so we should not let this be, especially as it affects our logistics. That said we don't want an image of barbaric oppression, so while corvettes to stop smugglers is good I wouldn't want to threaten the rebellious regions with bombardment (though them setting off the nuke would give us cause). Fortunately we have some damn fine scalpels as well as hammers. Eldal and spec ops should be good. The only thing that annoys me is the thought of having Eldal tied up in this for too long as he is such a valuable asset, but given the possibility of this tipping off I see his involvement as a necessity. As for how far we should go the simple presence of corvettes is enough of a threat without given an explicit ultimatum. If they set of the nuke we shouldn't back down but instead of general bombardment we should just liaise with the southern nation and have them direct our bombardment to assist their ground forces in retaking the northern nation. More legitimate that way.
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>>44395632
>If they set of the nuke we shouldn't back down but instead of general bombardment we should just liaise with the southern nation and have them direct our bombardment to assist their ground forces in retaking the northern nation. More legitimate that way.

We don't even know if this isn't just some Nasidum or Bonrah spec-ops team trying to stir up trouble with a false flag op.
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>>44395449
>[x] Send Recon team

>Show of force
Definitely a squad of Assault Corvettes, and one heavier ship, maybe Sonia's own medium?
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>>44395496
In saying that though, I believe that we should jump in with our command ship and a squadron of assault corvettes
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>>44396010
>Why_not_Daska.jpg
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>>44395449

We should send Recon team and Eldal to aid Baron Khyor Binil.

Maybe use the Bounty Hunter Barge we captured, and offer additional support in the form of ground forces on alert for deployment?

We have to remember that we are offering aid to Binil on this one. They are an ally, not a vassal.
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>>44395527
>Ask the other independent nations if they would be willing to help.
>What if the northern nation officially states they would refuse to accept Binil's land if it happens under these circumstances? Would that help? Would the nation be willing to do that?
>>44395477
>If they do not outright reject the demands of the terrorists, command them to surrender peacefully, and begin making moves to negotiate a peaceful resolution of the issues that have caused this...
>Well, the Northern Nation is going to pretty much cease to exist.
This is a point that may help spur on negotiations.

>>44395550
>What Binil asks for, it gets within reason.
How much is within reason?
>>44395617
>As far as we did last time we were fighting on this planet?
Mass driver bombardment of population centers with military bases?

>>44395496
>This is a Binil matter on Binil territory so we should thread carefully. We should let them handle any forceful action on their own unless they either risk losing their territory, the enemy become space born or an imminent disaster(such as a nuclear strike) is about occur.
That's another way to go about it.

>>44395632
>The only thing that annoys me is the thought of having Eldal tied up in this for too long as he is such a valuable asset, but given the possibility of this tipping off I see his involvement as a necessity.
The Krath operative seems fine with it. "If I don't assist many civilians may be killed."

You're sending ships as a show of force to assist the Baron. Daska heads out of the Run to take command of the central oversector while you jump into orbit with your command ship, escort and some assault corvettes. Your ally requests you take up geostationary orbit above the Nations of Kaartinen while their own force is in orbit closer to the southern hemisphere.

Teams are sent off on their respective assignments.

Roll 1d100 for quick work by the diplomats with the northern nation.
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Rolled 5 (1d100)

>>44396186
>Roll 1d100 for quick work by the diplomats with the northern nation.
Rolling.
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Rolled 32 (1d100)

>>44396186
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Rolled 13 (1d100)

>>44396186
Everybody ded?
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>>44396218
>>44396223
>>44396224

Well, fuck.

>>44396186
>Mass driver bombardment of population centers with military bases?
I'd prefer to avoid shooting civvies this time, desu.
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>>44396218
>>44396223
>>44396224
It seems to be taking a bit.

You could leave things up to the recon and infiltration teams to take care of on their end or you could try to speed up negotiations.

Firing into the planetary shields would certainly give a message but will hurt long term relations between them and your House.

[ ] Leave it to the Recon team
[ ] Fire into the shields.
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>>44396310
>[ ] Leave it to the Recon team
No need for violence if we can avoid it. It's up to Binil if they want to escalate things.
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>>44396310
>[ ] Leave it to the Recon team
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>>44396310
>[ ] Leave it to the Recon team
Until our recon team requests bombardment, or something else forces our hand, we do nothing.
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Rolled 75 (1d100)

Roll 2d20

You can probably ignore my dice.
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Rolled 3 (1d20)

>>44396593
>Roll 2d20
1
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Rolled 3, 20 = 23 (2d20)

>>44396593
Full on danger zone, it seems...
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Rolled 13 (1d20)

>>44396618
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>>44395396
Our teat are much stronger than our armor. Plus, the time required is an argument in favor of doing it now when things aren't yet in open warfare
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>>44397141
All to true. However the Anchorage is currently used for helping with the construction of our fortresses. I'd rather they are done before we begin a larger retrofit of Francis Alphonso into a more proper war ready ship. Hopefully both can be over and done with before the House pulls out the Forbearance from the Run, leaving us with at lest Francis that we can use as a capital ship.
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>>44397274
I'm pretty positive we won't be able to upgrade the francis into anything that has a chance to win a slugging match against any modern medium cruiser without resorting to SP-torp spam.

It's an century-old factory ship design. It was already considered obsolete before the Neeran invasion.
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>>44397274
We should probably check to see if we can refit it without inturrupting construction. Plus if we have it upgraded we can 2v1 the Nasidium heavy, and salvage it
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>>44397322
Might want to reread it's specs. It has close to the firepower of a modern heavy carrier. It's it's defenses that suck
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The team maintains radio silence since some of the terrorists could easily be monitoring communications. If they were to find out they were being stalked it might only take 1 of them to detonate the bomb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Snuy-Pm5oA

Eldal manages to capture and take the place of a few of the terrorists until eventually catching one that knows where the bomb is located.

There is a slight friendly fire incident involving a disguised Eldal and Rufaro but fortunately it didn't cause any permanent harm. It does force the krath to change his story to make up for the injury while he heals.

The terrorists end up redeploying, sending a squad to look for "a stray civilian with a knife." All the while Eldal gets closer to the bomb. Eventually he's able to reach its hiding place and knock out the few nearby guards. He's unable to completely disarm the bomb, but manages to very crudely rig a time delay on the detonator.

"This is Eldal, I need a shuttle pickup on the roof!"

The Baron has a nearby House Binil shuttle quickly respond and fly the agent and the explosive into orbit. Dumping it at altitude it goes off safely above the planetary shield.

Rufaro and Valeri, who returned to duty with the specialists you requested, then systematically take down most of the remaining terrorists. Local SWAT teams enter to secure the building and take everyone into custody.

Khyor Binil is greatful for the help.
"Thank you and your people for their assistance Baron Reynard. I need to get a recon team of my own out here but the rest of my House has been reluctant to send such resources for fear they'll be intercepted by the blockade. If you plan to break the Nasidum fleet you have my full support."
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>>44397528
Noice. this pleases my sense of tactical espionage!
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>>44397470
>It has close to the firepower of a modern heavy carrier

If I remember correctly, it's close to the Senate class. Which is also several centuries old, I think.

I would guess modern heavy carries come with medium plasma cannon turrets.

There might also be structural issues compared to proper warships, which can really bit us in the ass if we fight somebody with SP torps.

>>44397528
Oooh, that went pretty well. Did they find out who is responsible for the incident?

Would our House be okay with our specialists training a team for Binil?
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>>44397627
The Senate is the gold standard for heavy carriers. It's used by at least two factions. The only new heavy carrier design is the Talos, which is significantly smaller. As for structural issues, you should probably check the wiki page for it, as it mentions nothing of the sort
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>>44397322
>>44397627

It is an EXODUS construction vessel, designed to produce large scale space stations.

While it may be lacking in fleet support abilities, the ship is likely sturdier than a typical warship just so that it doesn't end up flexing while attempting to build a large scale station. Possibly even more so, as the design must have taken into consideration working within gravity wells of planets and other celestial bodies.

>>44397528

>Eldal Identity

me gusta

We should without a doubt ensure that 'an unnamed operative' is suitably thanked by JD/Binil/Southern Nation.

So who is behind this little stunt?
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>>44397528
I suggested it before but we should totally set Eldal up with a fake identity and some land in our House somewhere.
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Next the Baron requests your help with one last thing before you leave orbit.

"Launch a bombardment along the border between the two nations having the largest disagreement. I'll make sure their planetary shields are down."

According to the targeting data you've been sent your ships will be firing point defense weapons in a zig zag pattern along the border. All the areas should be tens of kilometers away from population centers. They will all be close enough for a few million people to see.

Lighting goes out across a quarter of the continent, and soon whole sections of it are plunged into darkness. The planetary shields go offline as well.

"Fire."

The small calibur projectiles light up the night as they pass through the atmosphere and strike uninhabited land. Governments of each of the nations are informed that if they have land disputes they can conduct them at the negotiation table. The Baron of the Governor would be more than happy to host those discussions, but if they insist they can request mediators from other parties.

If House Nasidum invades its unlikely they'll tolerate nations such as theirs. Because of this they're expected to resume arms sales to the Run Alliance posthaste.


>>44397627
>Oooh, that went pretty well. Did they find out who is responsible for the incident?
It looks like they're a bunch of extremists, but not from the northern nation. There is talk of a number of water navy ships that were stolen from each of the nations shortly after the treaty signing. Their group has apparently been operating as a rogue military state on Kaartinen for several years. They're supposedly fighting to unify the planet but don't recognise any of the nations currently in power since they work with the Dominion.

>Would our House be okay with our specialists training a team for Binil?
Yes, they may see about selling them light power cell armor if there is demand for it but they'll need to get hold of their own camo systems.
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>>44397528
>If you plan to break the Nasidum fleet you have my full support."
Soon friend. Once the pirates are dealt with and we've solidified our hold on all the remaining unaligned Houses we gonna chase them out of the Relay.

>>44397627
Then again it's not meant to be used as Heavy Cruiser. It's a support ship which can if needs to support a fleet with some of it's firepower but only if things are looking really shitty.

>It looks like they're a bunch of extremists
So small nobodies then? We don't really need to bother with this anymore since Binil seems to have it in hand. Time to clear out some pirates and then deal with Nasidum!
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Heavy Carriers usually do not mount excessive numbers of weapons so that additional ships can be docked to the outer hull. It's also easier to upgrade them with things like Torpedo batteries that way.

The Francis Alphonso can't carry as many weapons as a Heavy Carrier could simply because its a bit smaller. Putting more weapons on would also reduce its salvaging capability.
It has the earlier version of anti-torpedo armor, which is plenty tough, but its underlying structure is a bit weak in places from the rebuild. It's good enough to continue doing its job for a long time, and undergoes regular checks for stress fractures. It is old though. It won't take as much fire as a similarly upgraded Senate class ship.
Its engines are also not as powerful. The Forbearance with her current upgrades could overtake her.

If it absolutely must be taken into battle it can serve as rear fire support using its torpedo batteries just as you would a heavy carrier. The only time you guys have allowed a ship like that to come under serious enemy fire was the FTL ramming incident.

If you wanted you could perform a partial upgrade to her armor, strip the outer 25-50% of its armor and put some of the new stuff in its place. It would be faster and take up less of the local armor plant's output.

>>44398027
>So small nobodies then?
Small planet bound nobodies with nuclear warheads.

>>44397762
>We should without a doubt ensure that 'an unnamed operative' is suitably thanked by JD/Binil/Southern Nation.
>>44397872
>I suggested it before but we should totally set Eldal up with a fake identity and some land in our House somewhere.

Want to combine these? Ask the other Baron to do the award while you provide land for the awardee? Less chance of the House being annoyed with you.

Do so? Y/N?
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>>44398160
Yes to the awards but no to the land just yet. If we do have it on Rioja not another House's planet.
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>>44398160
I'm not really sure we should make a foreign national a noble.

I'd be fine with sort of what we did for Duncan, though. Set up somewhere they can stop by and relax in private, but it can't be traced back to them in ownership or anything.
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>>44398160
Really, just slap a couple of Heavy missile batteries on it along with another few shield generators and increased Starfighter capabilities. It already has 8 Torpedo Batteries which can bring hell the upon a great many ships at once. Something we really got to experience when we fought Erids Heavy Aries Cruiser with it's... 4 torpedo batteries?

As for Eldal? If we make him a noble and grant him land then it must be under the terms that he is fully 100% with JD now and not the Krath Union. Other than that I have no objection for our favorite Krath getting some land and becoming the Houses first Krath Knight. I mean how big of a fuse can the homeworld nobles make over one single Knight?
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>>44398298
>with it's... 4 torpedo batteries?
It had 8 batteries but they were larger, more heavily armored than normal, with a higher rate of fire.

>>44398185
>>44398230
>>44398298
Okay some kind of award is a given then, just not land/nobility just yet unless he quit working for his people.
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>>44398160
I for one would be fine with doing the award thing.

And if it would be faster then I say go ahead on doing a partial upgrade to the armor.
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>>44398160
>Small planet bound nobodies with nuclear warheads.
Going by the other incident on Petras, it seems people have mostly stopped caring about security measures when it comes to nukes because they are pretty unimpressive in space combat, and most regular armies don't even consider using them on habitable planets.

>Want to combine these?
I wouldn't mind providing Elda with a place to stay. Maybe a house or flat on a planet of his choice? Or maybe a farmhouse with an orchard when Rioja finishes terraforming.

Making him a noble would probably only make things complicated for both sides and invite trouble.
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>>44398330
>It had 8 batteries but they were larger, more heavily armored than normal, with a higher rate of fire.
Are we capable of duplicating these batteries or do we need the Aries schematics for them? Cause they obviously seem to be a lot better than those we have currently.
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We should ask Eldal if it would be proper to send some reward or something as a token of gratitude to his government for allowing him to stay with us and the help he has provided so far.

I remember something about their government and society being weird but can't seem to find it in the archives.
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Next section is taking a little bit to write up.

>Are we capable of duplicating these batteries or do we need the Aries schematics for them? Cause they obviously seem to be a lot better than those we have currently.
They can't currently be duplicated. Any ship they're put on would also need to specifically built to mount them.

>>44398550
Eldal seems momentarily uncertain.
"It... would probably be for the best if you let me handle where any reward is sent."
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With one crisis taken care of and Daska looking after the pirate hunting situation you spend some time looking over the situation in the region with your diplomatic adviser.
Bonrah has been vehimently denying previous knowledge of a pirate base inside their territory and claim that they were only recently made aware of it.

"It's not working especially well for them. Our people have had plenty of time to talk to the Houses in the region about this and many are not falling for Bonrah's lies. They are still acquiring territory but at a much slower rate."

House Sah'rhim has for the moment given indications of allying with House Helios. While you're on good terms with them, they don't want to be seen directly allying with the Run Alliance in case House Bonrah sees it as the tipping point and decides to invade early.

Daska has managed to scour many of the higher value regions of pirate activity and is now working to secure the last one along the trade lane. It's not proving easy, but it's taken time to move from Sah'rhim space.

In the east oversector things are heating up. One previously Helios allied House has given control of their territory to the Ruling House to check the advance of Nasidum forces.
One of the previously low priority areas has now been bumped up by Baron Kelly. Nasidum forces are trying to establish themselves more seriously behind the Ruling House's new positions. It's getting to the point were Bonrah is letting them make open use of facilities in a ship graveyard in their space.

How do you plan to deal with this?

[ ] Pull out of the area to avoid direct engagment with Nasidum
[ ] Reinforce the region, fire on trespassing Nasidum ships
[ ] Occupy and garrison the area. Fire only if fired upon
[ ] Other
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>>44399199
>[ ] Other
Engage tresspassing military ships if they don't retreat after being requested to. Let civilian ships from the house pass if they don't carry any military equipment.

>House Sah'rhim has for the moment given indications of allying with House Helios.
That's perfectly reasonable. Is Helios providing them with any support?
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>>44399199
>[ ] Reinforce the region, fire on trespassing Nasidum ships
>[ ] Other. Locate the Nysidium heavy using cloaked ships, and assemble a strike force to take it out.
I think its about time to open the ball.
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>>44399199
>[ ] Reinforce the region, fire on trespassing Nasidum ships
Make use of our cloaked vessels for maximum disruption!
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>>44399199
>[ ] Reinforce the region, fire on trespassing Nasidum ships
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>>44399199
>[ ] Reinforce the region, fire on trespassing Nasidum ships
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>>44399199

[X] Reinforce the region, fire on trespassing Nasidum ships

[x] Other: Raid Nasidum's neighboring territories
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>>44399271
>>44399334
>>44399366
>>44399378
>>44399416
>>44399475
They swing their dick around without fear of reprisal! It is time time to put a cactus in their path!
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>>44399199
Incidentally, where is the Neeran heavy cruiser we captured a while back?
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>>44399569
Is that a reference?

>>44399570
It's helping to guard the shipyard in the Pandora cluster. The House considered recalling it but if they did they'd never be able to send reinforcements in time if the Neeran were to attack it.

It's also protected from the civil war there. If the House were to fall they could still draw on those resources later to win back territory.

>>44399271
>Is Helios providing them with any support?
More that they're working on providing Helios with local support. More on that shortly.

>[ ] Reinforce the region, fire on trespassing Nasidum ships
It looks like you're drawing a line in the sand. You'll give warning for their ships to withdraw but after that it's a shooting match.

Nasidum can't directly threaten the Run, but their forces in the east oversector could attack nearby allied Houses.

Katherine Drake informs you that in order to maintain combat forces they'll need at least two repair ships due to lack of local infrastructure. You don't have many, only 4 in the Relay, and they'll need an escort.

A Kilo class is nearing completion in the yards. You could assign it to help escort the repair ships once finished, or it could be quickly complete it as a Medium repair ship itself.
Another option would simply be to base out of the nearby allied colony, though that might make it a target. Or you could deploy Forbearance. It has more than enough repair capacity.

If Nasidum launches an attack on allied Houses you could use that as justification to liberate the regions they've taken.

How do you want to handle the field repair problem?
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>>44399907
Finish the Kilo and being the Forbearance out. It's time to fuck Nasidum up.
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>>44399907
Finish the Kilo. And ready the Forberance for deployment.
Incidentally, what intel do we have on enemy commanders? They know we've been very sparing with heavy assets like the Forberance, which is part of the reason I'm willing to play so aggressively here. Especially if a sudden offensive can cripple Nasidum before Bonrah can deploy.
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>>44399907

Could we request use of the Royal Logistics Corps bases for minor repairs and deploy a single repair ship?

That would buy us time to get that Kilo completed and set up as part of a larger escort force, allowing us to more safely deploy 2 repair ships.

I'd rather have Forbearance on alert, giving Nasidium the feeling that we're afraid to commit it. Then it can strike at something unexpectedly.
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>>44399907
Am I correct in assuming that our house currently isn't really looking for more heavy cruiser + sized ships?
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>>44400033
>Could we request use of the Royal Logistics Corps bases for minor repairs and deploy a single repair ship?
The Ruling House is prepared to permit some of your forces use of the RLC bases provided those units are fighting House Nasidum.

>>44400042
Yes. At least for the moment. It will also be more difficult to support them and provide the large crews.

Forbearance is moving up to the border and preparing for an extended campaign? Sound good?

Uyi Rna wants to know if the army should continue drills or prepare to mobilize off world. If the latter she'd prefer to give the troops some shore leave.
You could also ask the General to issue shore leave and start a rumor that they're about to deploy. This could give enemy intel the impression you're about to lunch a planetary assault somewhere and provoke them into an early response.

[ ] Continue drills
[ ] Prepare to mobilize off world
[ ] Shoreleave / Rumor
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>>44400223
>[ ] Prepare to mobilize off world
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>>44400223
>[ ] Prepare to mobilize off world
>[ ] Shoreleave / Rumor
To a drew with Nasidum. What invasion? No they just got some leave for the week. Don't you do that?
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>>44400223
>[ ] Prepare to mobilize off world
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>>44400223

[x] Continue Drills
[x] Rotating shoreleave

We don't want to give the impression we're making a big move, so hopefully they'll think we just moved Forbearance to make it look like a deployment.
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>>44400223
This question is still open for those who haven't responded yet.

As if enough wasn't going on representatives of Houses Helios and Sah'rhim wish to speak to you and representatives of the local Alliance.

Helios hasn't been able to get any serious numbers of ships into the region. It seems a bounty has been placed on them. Sah'rhim has gone about rounding up spare staff from the Helios embassies and conscripting them to form a local fleet. Its not perfect but the ambassador placed in charge has some fleet experience and has been given authority to act in their interests.

They want to buy ships from the yards in the Run.

"We don't need many. Just enough to act as a command unit. The locals allied with us in the region will follow our lead and send units to assist. This should let us drive the remaining pirates out of our space."

That should be an easy enough matter. You do produce a surplus of ships even with the Houses in the Run expanding their fleet sizes.

"House Helios would also like to request the assistance of your alliance. Even together we currently lack the force necessary to defend ourselves from a focused attack by Nasidum or Bonrah. Their raids have weakened us considerably. In the event they attack we would like you to defend our satellite states. In return Helios will compensate you once the blockade is lifted.
Money, resources, favour with our House. The choice of the form of repayment is yours."

This is a chance to considerably boost J-D's standing with Helios, or your personal standing with them after that incident.
You could also ask them to give more consideration to supporting Ber'helum as the next Ruling House.

How do you wish to respond to their request?

See you in the morning!
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>>44400723
Just how many satellite states do they have? We cannot make such an important decision that would affect the Run Alliance without conversing with them.
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>>44400723

Pokerface.jpg

At the very least, we should be able to offer them the Run as a fallback position if Bonrah or Nasidum somehow pull a major fleet out of nowhere.

... speaking of a major fleet, when are we calling in those SRL folks?
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>>44400826
>Just how many satellite states do they have?

"In the event they attack we would like you to defend our satellite states (In this Relay.) In return Helios will compensate you once the blockade is lifted."
Fixed

9 in the relay.

>>44400876
>... speaking of a major fleet, when are we calling in those SRL folks?
That's a good question. Did you want to have them set to head here only if Bonrah makes a move? Or if Nasidum sends reinforcements?
If those are taking too long you could always just give them the go-ahead yourself and they'll arrive in just under 2 weeks.
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>>44400223
>Yes. At least for the moment. It will also be more difficult to support them and provide the large crews.
Which of the houses in our alliance is best placed to put a Heavy Cruiser or Carrier into service quickly (and has enough firepower in the region to avoid the rest of them calling bullshit when we give it to them.)
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>>44400984
Wait? Hell no, if we intend to make aggressive moves against Nasidium/Bonrah in response to their own we want them there with us. I believed the strategy was always to be proactive instead of reactive, with the pirate activities and other enemy initiatives being hindrances to us attacking that needed to be dealt with. Not the hallmark of a defensive policy. They already initiated hostilities, and we've always shone in the attacking role. Besides the difficulty of defending the run its better if its their worlds and infrastructure trying to coordinate a defense from unpredictable attackers, not the other way around.
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>>44400876
And since I failed to actually answer the question, I'd say that we should offer them the ships for a command unit and as many as we can spare for their allies, as well.


As for the Alliance, I'm for it. It factors into our plans, but they don't have to know that.

>>44400984
>SRL forces

I'd like them to ship out to arrive in 3 weeks, if it can snag us the Super I'd hoped for originally.

We have evidence that Bonrah has already initiated hostilities with at least 1 House, and Nasidum has conducted at least 1 instance of outright war against JD.

We bring in SRL forces and we proceed to wreck Nasidum, then potentially Bonrah's holdings immediately after.
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>>44400984
Give the go ahead and have them arrive asap.
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Can we have the two cloak ships recon Nasidum space in the days leading up to an attack?

Also could we play a one shot as Bekka?
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>>44400723
>How do you wish to respond to their request?
How many ships do the Helios allies have in the relay, and how much population and industrial capacity do they have available? What do their defences look like?

>How do you wish to respond to their request?
Have we finished any BBs yet? I think one of them would make a decent command ship for Helios until the can get reinforcements into the region.

Would Helios be willing to sign an
non-aggression pact with the run alliance, Ber'h, and the RH for drh 1?

>>44400223
How many and what kind of ships will the RH and Ber'h be able to make available if we need to engage the Nasidum main fleet or a significant part of it?
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>>44403309
What does bb stand for again? I forgot.
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>>44403395
Battleship.
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I think its time we make our move. The longer we keep waiting the more infrastructure damage the ruling house and allies take, as well as for Bonrah to get their shit together. As it is, it seems like many of the minor houses are against Bonrah at this point and Nasidum isnt well loved either in this relay, for obvious reasons.

Its about time we started coordinating with the local Ruling House Commander and Allies in a concerted plan to remove Nasidum from this relay. We dont need to be officially in command of the overall operation, if it is custom to have the Ruling House Commander be the nominal commander then fine. We just need to get the ball rolling and stop being so reactionary.

A multi pronged attack on the largest contiguous territory that Nasidum controls should cripple them here. Moving our forces into position shouldnt be an issue. We've been flying all over the relay for a couple weeks now, so reshuffling our forces shouldnt be any different from what we've been currently doing. We also have some toptier navigators capable of moving our fleets virtually undetected.

The only issue I can think of is not having enough ships to properly arm our battlegroups without severely limiting local defense fleets. But Nasidum shouldnt have the resources in this relay to stop a concentrated attack from multiple mid level houses.

Bonrah playing the neutral role, shouldnt even feel threatened that we are attacking Nasidum, whose primarily concentrated on the otherside of the relay. If they attack us then they are destroying their own image of neutrality.

My plan involves forming 4 self contained battlegroups that operate individually but can coalesce whenever a large scale fleet engagement occurs or when another battlegroup is in danger of being destroyed.
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>>44404366
Battlegroup A, under Sonia and made up primarily of Oversector Central forces should launch their attack shortly after Battlegroup B and C begin theirs. Battlegroup A's primary job is to cut in behind any Nasidum forces moving to engage Battlegroup B and to take the central Colony in Nasidum space. As well as clearing that Graveyard. They will also delay their attack incase a large Nasidum force had been waiting in the cut off Nasidum territory north of them. This force is also the most obvious that an attack will take place since its moving the farthest from its original operational area. So they should only move shortly before the attack commences.

Battlegroup B, under Kelly and made up primarily of Oversector East forces should be reinforced with the Forbearance and Daska. Kelly and Daska can either take joint command of this force or have the Forbearance act as an autonomous unit. Their primary goal should be to take the trapped Ruling House logistics base in Nasidum territory, this base could serve as a forward base for Battlegroup A and B. This group should launch its attack at the same time as Battlegroup C and after taking the Logistics base can either form up with Battlegroup A in taking that central colony, Move to block any Nasidum counter push or retreat back through the run and reinforce Battlegroup D in the event of a Bonrah attack.

Battlegroup C, under the Ruling House and made up primarily of their forces should launch an attack at the colony closest to the relay. Their job is to clear the surrounding space around the Nav Station and to eventually take that colony. From their they can roll up the Nasidum flank until linking up with Battlegroup A and B.
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>>44404374
Battlegroup D, under Kadnil is to form a reserve fleet primarily made up of Oversector West forces whose role is to delay any Bonrah incursion until we can get the other Battlegroups to finish with Nasidum and attack Bonrah. This force should be reinforced with Ber'helum and Helios forces. In the event that Bonrah does not attack this force is to drill the newly formed Helios wings.

Regarding our pirate reinforcements. Call them in, when they arrive we can use them as the situation requires. Hopefully we can hold that Nav Station they are arriving at. If the Alliance base in the area is still operating and is using loaned ships from us, its about time we get those assets back. Recycle them into the newly formed Helios Wings.

However im not to keen on giving away ships to Helios and allies, is there a way we can lease them the ships and have them returned after Nasidum and Bonrah are cleansed from the relay. Have them only pay us if a ship is destroyed or heavily damaged.

I'm not to sure on the quality of our Ruling House allies and the overall staying power of Battlegroup D in the event of a Bonrah attack. Worse case scenario, House Sah'rhim folds, we lose the Nav Station and our pirate reinforcements get ambushed and Kadnil is pushed back into the Run.

Thoughts?
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>>44404404
>Thoughts?
Seems pretty decent overall. Maybe station fleet D on Ber'helum territory, so that attacking them would also mean declaring war on a major house. Or at least cause some significant political fallout.

>However im not to keen on giving away ships to Helios and allies
I'm very keen on giving Helios ships. It's an easy and convenient way to earn their favor, and Sonia could really benefit from getting on good terms with one of the most advanced houses in the dominion again. They also don't seem to need many ships, so I'd be in favor of just showing them what we can offer and letting them pick.

>Regarding our pirate reinforcements
Would it be possible to coordinate their flight to drh 1 with a helios fleet?

I'm not really sure if we should call them already. If we manage to break nasidum's blockade of the nav station, helios might be able to get to the relay without as much trouble as before.

>I'm not to sure on the quality of our Ruling House allies
We really need detailed information on what the Ruling House and Nasidum have in the relay. Some information on each commander would be appreciated as well. Same goes for Bonrah.

Is Ber'helum planning to send more ships soon?

>>44394189
>Raids
How are the Norune doing so far? Do they have less problems with unit morale this time?
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An idea:

House Bonrah is essentially running a protection-scheme. They have raiders operating from their holdings and then offer "protection" from their own pirates to desperate houses who see no other option. This means most of those houses they manage to subsume doesn’t actually like them, and others only continue to flock to them so long as they have no reasonable options.

Now, what if we convinced some of the smaller houses near Bonrah’s territory to *officially* support Bonrah while secretly hiding some of our forces or otherwise helping us.

As soon as we can convince them that they are safe from Bonrah, it should be relatively easy to get them to betray Bonrah. This might allow us to make a surprise attack or get some information from Bonrah’s "allies".
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>>44404366
>>44404374
>>44404404
Seems solid enough of a plan. I'll support it. As soon as we can get Helios some ships and can organize our allies for anti pirate and anti Bonrah duty and we've called in mercenary forces we launch our all out attack on Nasidum.
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Considering how much territory we might have to defend at some point in the future, we should probably make plans to abandon certain territories and and have the local forces fall back to more defensible positions.

If Houses have mobile assets in territory that's threatened to be overrun quickly, we should ask if they'd be willing to move it elsewhere now until the immediate problems in drh 1 have been resolved.
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>>44404891
Speaking of Ber'helum, we really need to clarify our stance in regards to the civil war.

If we're for Ber'helum (as I think we should be), then we should really stop assisting the RH in this cluster.
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>>44405355
Our immediate goal is not to let the houses wanting to stop supporting the FA gain control over the Dominion. That means we have to support Ber'h, RH, Kharbos.

Helping the neutral Houses Helios and Che'len probably won't either because every territory they manage to secure or hold isn't in as much danger of falling under control of the anti-FA houses.

Unfortunately, Ber'helum is weak in our area, and Nasdium's and Bonrah's combined fleets can wipe out the fleet of every other power bloc in DRH 1 individually. So there's not really any way to keep the sector safe without keeping the RH and its fleet around.
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TSTG, what is House Hedron doing these days? Are they still close to the big 8, or are they largely irrelevant?
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>Lots of stuff to respond to
working on it.

>>44405019
The thing is they're occupying areas they've already convinced to side with them. That'll make it difficult to sneak your people into Houses already allied with them.
As for getting others to fake an alliance, you can see on the map there are few regions left that haven't chosen a side. The best candidate for the plan could let Bonrah blockade the main trade lane. You might not want to do that while focusing on the east oversector.

>>44405555
Hedron is the official name of whoever happens to be the Ruling House at the moment. It's a title, like Caesar. When they lose that position they're supposed to change it back to their old one. I've just gotten used to calling them the Ruling House for simplicity so I haven't been using it.

Nirium is the current Ruling House.
You're not supposed to refer to the current Ruling House by their old name while they hold power as its considered insulting or implying they're not going to be holding their position for long. So of course their enemies are all doing it now.
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>>44405845
Oh, I see. I thought House Hy'drang simply got renamed to Hedron somewhere along the way. Is the original 1st dynasty House Hy'drang/Hedron still around?
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>>44405884
http://houseanddominion.wikia.com/wiki/History_of_the_Dominion
There was no battle for the skies of the homeworld, no orbital bombardment, no fighting in the streets. The leader of House Hy'drang stepped down knowing their time had come and gone long ago. Che'len was given all resources belonging to their predecessor which they used to good effect in consolidating control. Helios was rewarded, their leader promoted to a position now referred to as a Duke.

Within the year House Che'len renamed itself House Hedron ushering in the Fourth Dynasty and setting the precedent for modern traditions.

Some Dynasties since have temporarily changed the name back to House Hy'drang. The majority have maintained the name of House Hedron as long as they remain the Ruling House. Once driven from power Houses revert to their previous name.

It's the very last part of history of the Dominion I have up. I keep forgetting to upload the other parts because I haven't fixed some inconsistencies in the timeline involving the AI rebellion and clone war.
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3 votes for Prepare to mobilize off world. The troops are getting ready.

>>44397957
>The small caliber projectiles light up the night as they pass through the atmosphere and strike uninhabited land.
Damn, I didn't post my pic.

>>44401021
>Which of the houses in our alliance is best placed to put a Heavy Cruiser or Carrier into service quickly
House Kadnil has the spare resources to maintain one and their local Knight Commander would like the opportunity for promotion to Baron.
If the other Houses complain they can just threaten to stop selling them drive plates.


>>44403309
>How many ships do the Helios allies have in the relay, and how much population and industrial capacity do they have available? What do their defences look like?

Fleet strength : 12 Wings attack corvettes
2 Wings assault corvettes
3 Carrier groups
+20 battleships
Unknown numbers of Light cruisers
Unknown numbers of attack cruisers and escort carriers

The bulk of those forces belong to House Sah'rhim, especially the battleships.

Each facility important enough to be listed on the map has orbital defense platforms. Mostly older star forts but they're enough to force off pirate raids.

>Population
Colonies in the relay generally are in the 400-500 million range. Those closer to the nav stations are larger.

>Have we finished any BBs yet?
Can't find the post where I mentioned the old battlecruiser yard in the Run. Regardless of whatever they were building before I'm retconing that they've switch to the Dominion fast battleship. They have 2 available.

>Would Helios be willing to sign an non-aggression pact with the run alliance, Ber'h, and the RH for drh 1?
Yes.

>How many and what kind of ships will the RH and Ber'h
Ber'helum: Carriers, new fighters, Fast Battleships and some light cruisers. They need rest to defend holdings.

RH: Can't spare many ships. Mostly older corvettes and 1 Medium. What they can do is push Nasidum forces everywhere else along their lines as a distraction.
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>>44400723
We agree. My personal plan is simple: We prep the main fleet of the Run Alliance to attack Nasidium in a bid to cripple them quickly. At the same time, Helios and Belerhum conduct joint exercises. Hopefully Bonrah's local commander will hesitate long enough in declaring open warfare on two great houses simultaneously for us to cripple Nasidium's fleet, and allow us to pull a significant portion of our fleet back to face them. At which point they'll basically be screwed and we can clean up.
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>>44404366
>>44404374
>>44404404

I have no idea why this plan calls for assaulting colonies with small ships instead of sending the Super with siege weapons, which should be able to effectively blast any orbital defenses from outside range of retaliation.

I'm also opposed to splitting our forces when it comes to attacking colonies, especially without having dealt with the Nasidum fleet first.

When we make our move against Nasidum, there are two key things we have to eliminate quickly. 1, Their Heavy Carrier. 2, Their ability to provide local logistics and repair.

If the RH can't give us intel on these two things, we'll need to deploy what cloaked ships we have available to gain it. If we can cripple the Heavy, Nasidum's forces are forced into static positions for repairs, meaning they'll have to devote more forces to defensive postures.

If we can only take out their static positions, we limit their ability to support their fleet, increasing repair times.

If we can hit both, we then have at least a week before they can get anything new into the area.


That said, planetary invasions are likely to bog us down. If we hit Nasidum's or even Bonrah's Colonies, we should probably focus the attack on destroying or looting -all- orbital infrastructure. Remove the world's ability to support fleets, drop a long range jammer outside their system to keep them silent, and leave a token force to hunt anything that comes to investigate or that hid under the planetary shields.

This would be highly effective against the Nasidum colonies by the Nav station, as it would also effectively deny a second wave of Nasidum forces logistics bases, and force them to bring modular stations if they knew to.

Bleed them in manpower, equipment, and the wallet.
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>>44406342
>Can't find the post where I mentioned the old battlecruiser yard in the Run.

>>43330252
>A Battlecruiser yard. There is local mining industry to help supply it. It used to produce Kavarian Battlecruisers, albeit slowly. The House has been upgrading it to build new Fast Battleships.
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>>44406406
>Their Heavy Carrier
Its an Ascendancy Class Heavy Cruiser actually. It might be a carrier mod though. Also not fond of destroying orbital industry, we'll need that once we conquer things.
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>Call in the Warlord fleet ASAP. (paraphrased)
>have them arrive asap.
>SRL ships to arrive in 3 weeks

So the call has gone out.

>>44404891
>Would it be possible to coordinate their flight to drh 1 with a helios fleet?
That will mean waiting 4 weeks for the fleet to arrive instead of 2 to 2.5.

>We really need detailed information on what the Ruling House and Nasidum have in the relay.
The reason I've held off doing this is because I'm worried one of two things will happen.
1) I'll lowball the numbers and you guys will steamroll them effortlessly.
2) I'll inflate the numbers to such a ridiculous degree that both sides should have already stomped all of you by now.


>Is Ber'helum planning to send more ships soon?
They're doing well in most of their other theatres and are trying to take advantage of it. Yours is increasingly a low priority for them since their territory there isnt under immediate threat of invasion and you seem to have things well in hand.
Obviously their local commanders are not happy about this.

>How are the Norune doing so far? Do they have less problems with unit morale this time?
They're doing well as they had been training for this. They're also not doing it alone since the Alliance is there to help.

>>44406480
Thank you.

>>44401854
>Can we have the two cloak ships recon Nasidum space in the days leading up to an attack?
Yes.

>Also could we play a one shot as Bekka?
At some point if there is enough support for it.

On to looking at the big plan!
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>>44406529
So does our enemy. We can loot what we can, but denial of a strategic asset should be the priority.


Nasidum will send more ships until we make the cost of this theater too great for them. One orbital station is worth a squadron of ships, at least.
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>>44406653
>So does our enemy. We can loot what we can, but denial of a strategic asset should be the priority.
I think you are underestimating the longterm value of haveing the run firmly under our control and sending reinforcements to the homeworld. Plus, we have another war to fight even after this one, and our allies will be annoyed if we blow up all the orbital industry on their shiny new planets.
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>>44406577
I wouldn't mind waiting 4weeks if it means Helios will get a decent presence in the relay.
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>>44406926
I disagree. Mainly because I think we already have enough firepower, and also because Helios will owe us less and will have a greater claim on local territory. Too many cooks spoil the stew.
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>>44406406
>If we hit Nasidum's or even Bonrah's Colonies, we should probably focus the attack on destroying or looting -all- orbital infrastructure

I'm opposed to scorched earth tactics. Big picture, we're trying to maintain Dominion support for the FA, and if we do too much damage internally we're just doing the Neeran's job for them.
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Sorry for delays. Random guy keeps phoning me to buzz open the door.
>Dude let me in I'm a fairy

>>44404366
>We dont need to be officially in command of the overall operation, if it is custom to have the Ruling House Commander be the nominal commander then fine. We just need to get the ball rolling and stop being so reactionary.


>>44404366
>We also have some toptier navigators capable of moving our fleets virtually undetected
If you use the main trade lane to go quickly people will see you. But if done fast enough there may not be time to respond.


>>44404374
>Battlegroup B, under Kelly and made up primarily of Oversector East forces + Forbearance & Daska
Do you plan to abandon the fight for the Nasidum and contested territory in the east oversector when you launch the attack? Ot would you wait until it has been dealt with?

>im not to keen on giving away ships to Helios and allies, is there a way we can lease them the ships and have them returned after Nasidum and Bonrah are cleansed from the relay. Have them only pay us if a ship is destroyed or heavily damaged.
Yes this can be done.

>>44406406
>I'm also opposed to splitting our forces when it comes to attacking colonies, especially without having dealt with the Nasidum fleet first.
>When we make our move against Nasidum, there are two key things we have to eliminate quickly. 1, Their Heavy Carrier. 2, Their ability to provide local logistics and repair.

>>44406529
>Ascendancy Class Heavy Cruiser actually. It might be a carrier mod though.
It's a (C). They're only using the internal bay to conduct repairs on corvettes.

Confirmation needed: Call the SRL Fleet ASAP /or/ delay for Helios reinforcements.

And will you be launching an attack on Nasidum's main holdings before or after the fleet arrives?
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>>44407228
Get them ASAP and after they arrive.
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>>44407228
get them ASAP.

Launch attack AFTER.
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>>44407228
Survey tiem?
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>>44407228
Asap
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>>44407318
My computer just crashed and is acting strange so I may have to.
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>>44407228
To be honest, I have no idea if we actually need the srl fleet that much in drh1. Would it be possible to send them to reinforce a different JD territory once we've dealt with nasidum?
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>>44407665
better to have them and not need them. We're about to fight the forces of two Major Houses in the relay.
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>>44407365
Shoulda let the Fairy in then, now its messing with your computer

>>44407228
get them ASAP, Launch attack a few days before they arrive.
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>>44407665
>Would it be possible to send them to reinforce a different JD territory once we've dealt with nasidum?
Yes, though your agreements with them would have to be modified.

Before I put the survey up are there any other attack plans you guys would like to put forward?

>>44404366
>>44404374
>>44404404
3 pronged attack plan.

>>44406406
Focus on Heavy / Logistics to reduce their fleet effectiveness.

Another option might be to offer to act as a heavy strike group for the Ruling House. With them on a widespread offensive they could flush out the heavy cruiser allowing your fleet to directly engage it. Of course Nasidum would probably become aware of it.

Any others?
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>>44407959
>[x] Focus on Heavy / Logistics to reduce their fleet effectiveness.

Anything to disrupt their heavier forces would be perfect. Forebearance having free reign in a large fleet engagement would fuck them up.

Can we deploy specops teams to sabotage various fleet elements?
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>>44407959
We could stage raids on nasidum's supply lines with our specialised units until the srl fleet arrives while the the rest of the fleet supports the current rh positions.
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>>44407959
Definitely the focus on the heavy. Though try to avoid scorched earth tactics
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surveymonkey com/r/ RKJTJGZ

Survey up! Link will be on the wiki shortly. I'm going to have to shut down my computer because I think I smell burning.

I'll try to post in a few hours or use another computer to do so. If I can't then see you next time!

>>44408114
>Can we deploy specops teams to sabotage various fleet elements?
Yes.
Would they be drawn from your fleet's marines and Special forces? Or would they be from the newer army units?
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>>44408295
Answers in!
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>>44408295
If say a mix of veterans from the fleet/special forces and newer army units to get them some much needed experience.
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>>44408295
Send some of the newer guys along on the easier assignments.
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>>44410559
Btw did they send bekka's friend who joined Intel with one of the spec ops team.
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>Do we have a waifu? Srsly
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>>44408295
May be looking for a new PC tomorrow.

>>44410911
Going to say yes.

Your message to the Warlord tells him to send his fleet here ASAP.

For now you and your allies will continue skirmishing with Nasidum forces in the east oversector. The Ruling House has permitted the fleets use of nearby logistics bases. It's cutting down on the need for forward repair ships somewhat, though salvage craft are still needed to drag damaged ships out at times.
Salvage craft are something you have plenty of. U-Hauls and incomplete alliance escort carriers are something your all have in abundance thanks to operations in the Run and the shipyards there.


That medium cruiser / repair ship, I wasn't really clear on what happened with that. Looks like people wanted the Kilo finished as a normal warship for escort purposes?
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>>44412212
Yeah, I think so.
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>>44412212
I do indeed think we wanted Kilo for more firepower seeing as we lack heavy ships.
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>>44412212
That's what I wanted for it.
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>>44412181
Versa is our waifu.
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>>44412181
Our waifus are Salvage, Explosions, Money and Prestige.
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>>44412181
No we have a Husbando who gives us very nice ships. To bad he's still only a Knight-Commander.

Also these are our waifus
>>44412670
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>>44412675
>implying our husbando isn't admiral chen
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>>44412704
>implying we are not already doing things with him on deployment for the Alliance
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>>44412856
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>>44412301
>>44412333
>>44412341
Thank you.

>The rest
Uh...

Moving on. Looking up computers etc.

Q&A Session?
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>>44413076
>Q&A Session?
Reynard Plasma Disc Cannon when
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>>44413076
Have we met Kari Darrow yet? Or has he just been giving us presents. I forget.
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>>44413076
>Q&A Session?
How are the houses mentioned in the pastebin last thread doing?
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>>44413117
I am fairly sure he has courted us for marriage. Seeing as he is a Knight-Commander, hopefully soon to be Baron, and has exceedingly good taste in ships I think we should actually consider it.
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>>44406577
>Yours is increasingly a low priority for them since their territory there isnt under immediate threat of invasion and you seem to have things well in hand.

Would they be willing to upgrade one of the shipyards in the run as an early thank-you?
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>>44413076
Aaaaanyways.

ETA for when we can retrofit Francis?

When do we get to build some Athena class Battleship! My body has been ready for them for months now!

Does Eldal feel like sharing what Krath actually are? I mean we do feel fairly certain that they are artificially created beings but it's not confirmed. Are the soldiers or something from the ones that came before? Perhaps related to that ship that the Sharktooth is suppose to be a part of?

On that subjecy. Any info on that?
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>>44413076
>Q&A Session?
Are the watcher space krath the same sub species beryl and her team had to fight?
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>>44406577
>They're doing well as they had been training for this.
Does that mean we'll be able to purchase some nice upgrades for our norune medium cruiser in the future?
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>>44413076
What's the difference between the mk 1 and mk 2 firestorm frigates?
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>>44413076
Has that house that we've been undermining via that kid indicated that they know what we are doing?
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>>44413076
Any updates on those Super-Serums the house was working on?

How is Versa's program getting on?
How are all the research items we gave the factions getting along?
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>>44413076

Did we ever assign that captured bountyhunter combat mining barge to our force proper? Thinking about it, it would really be an amazing anti-pirate ship due to the tractor beams, heavy shields, and probably the anti-torp armor we'd add when it came into our service.

The damned thing captured the Bittenfeld and we really only escaped because they wanted us alive. In our service, it just has to snag ships so they can't run before they're crippled.

It could also work as a combat salvage vessel, with those tractor beams, I'd imagine.


What is going on with House Sulos? Last update, they were sliding toward Bonrah due to being allied to House Talos, was it? I still note they are marked as Helios allies on the map, however.

Has Myrish Avun or anyone else attempted to contact us?
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>>44413690
What did we do with the crew of that ship? I don't want to put the people who weren't making the decisions lose their job.

Have we managed to decode their log?
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>>44413758
> that sentence
Time to sleep, I guess.
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>>44413758
they were a purely Norune outcast crew. Those traditionally considered dregs/psychos. Most of them are on that world we just helped save, in the... middle nation?

Actually, we should see if they would like the FA to arrange transport for them back to norune space. Some of them might want to help defend their people against the Neeran, and I'm sure we could ensure safe passage on a FA vessel for them.
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>>44413104
Man portable? It's still a ways off.
Seriously need to get back to reading plasma physics articles.

>>44413117
>have we met Kari Darrow yet?
Yes, once on Dreminth after one of the expeditionary fleet social club meetings. You did a mock duel as Sonia had just finished some intensive training in the way of dueling, improving her skill considerably.

>>44413162
>Seeing as he is a Knight-Commander, hopefully soon to be Baron
That's his intention. It's taken him a bit longer than he planned to reach his current rank.

>>44413690
Was trying to remember this the other day. I do plan to look into it.

>>44413450
>What's the difference between the mk 1 and mk 2 firestorm frigates?
Mk 1 has a big quad-linked phase cannon array. Improved shield penetration rate but they're murderous on maintenance and repair. At one point in the Faction wars if the weapon was damaged enough the Kavarians would just remove it send it to be scrapped. Repairs are easier these days but still annoying and expensive.

The Mk 2 has two seperate twin linked phase cannons, the same as are used on Dominion attack corvettes. Iratar was hoping to sell them to the Dominion Houses.

Sorry skipping over a few questions.
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>>44414252
>Man portable? It's still a ways off.
I meant ship sized but that sounds good also.
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>>44414252
The mk 2 didn't work out as planned for iratar?
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>>44414252
Why are we not using more linked phase cannons of all sizes?
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>>44414425
Not quite as popular as hoped. Enough that they still made money.

>>44413189
>Would they be willing to upgrade one of the shipyards in the run as an early thank-you?
Once they can reliably get through the blockade they'll upgrade one of their local yards.

>>44413277
>ETA for when we can retrofit Francis?
Well you could start it immediately since it's sitting around working on station modules or what have you.

>When do we get to build some Athena class Battleship! My body has been ready for them for months now!
Oh right. You could place an order some from one of the House yards since you have the production data. Just remember you can't produce many (if any) kinds of attachments for it and it may be vulnerable to boarding attempts.

>Does Eldal feel like sharing what Krath actually are? I mean we do feel fairly certain that they are artificially created beings but it's not confirmed.
"It depends on your definition of artificial. Our biotechnology is incredibly advanced by your standards.
You would need an AI controlling a body made of nanites to do some of the things we can. But there are limits. We can become too familiar with a particular form and it can become harder to change as time passes."

Eldal looks down at his left hand, staring as he experimentally clenches his fist before opening it again.
"Ella Rufaro cut off my arm."

You do a double take. "Are you alright?"

"...it took me longer than I thought it would to heal it. I've been spending too long out of combat, not enough practice with how to handle these things. Being among the people here, not just the military but the refugees down on Rioja, has still be quite educational. I've learned things about being a person I might not have otherwise."

[ ] We need you ready to fight
[ ] Self identity is worth some sacrifice
[ ] Try to find ways to do both
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>>44415068
>[ ] Self identity is worth some sacrifice
Heck, if you see yourself only as a soldier, you can end up doing terrible things without realizing it. Doesn't matter the species, we all have our monsters that we can become if we aren't careful.
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>>44415068
>[ ] Self identity is worth some sacrifice
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>>44415068
>[ ] Self identity is worth some sacrifice
We shall teach the bio machine to be his own man! Such is the way of Sonia!

>Just remember you can't produce many (if any) kinds of attachments for it and it may be vulnerable to boarding attempts.
This kills much of the hype for the Athena class. Can we still use the LD plasma cannon modules for it?
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>>44415068
>[ ] Self identity is worth some sacrifice
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>>44415068
>[x] Try to find ways to do both

You're a good person, Eldal. There's no harm in striking a balance.

But hey, this gives me a crazy idea on how we could use all those Neeran artifacts. If we took Krath bio-engineering and used it to make an organic frame for power-armor filled with nerves that could handle the massive current, maybe we could trick the Artifacts into using the armor instead of frying us.
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>>44415068
>Eldal
Is his current personality linked to the "Eldal" body? Or are krath so hyper adaptable their skill atrophies at an incredibly fast rate?

Anyway, how does a career in the Krath military usually go for an infiltrator? Do they have a certain amount of years they need to serve before they can do whatever they want with their life, or
is it infiltration till the day they die for them?

Would choosing to spend less time on combat cause significant trouble for him other than lowered skills?
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>>44414951
They're harder to do with larger beams and they become increasingly complex. They were sophisticated enough tech that until the Warlords campaign Attack Corvettes usually only made up 20% of a House fleet.
Increasing numbers of attack cruisers are having the option to mount them.

>>44413550
>How is Versa's program getting on?
There are signs of long term side effects with use of the system. They're working on solutions but continuing the project. The Alliance has expressed interest.

>>>44415337
>This kills much of the hype for the Athena class.
You were warned about this. You'll just need to steal more of everything.
>Can we still use the LD plasma cannon modules for it?
A variation of it, or spinal mount them directly to the hardpoints.

>>44413312
>Are the watcher space krath the same sub species beryl and her team had to fight?
Short answer: Yes.

>>44413491
>Has that house that we've been undermining via that kid indicated that they know what we are doing?
Not that you know of. Why would they? He's just some upstart who happens to head a mercenary company.

You can have RTS Intel or House intel check in on them, but you run the chance of tipping them off.

>>44415404
"This would require a conscious Krath volunteer. At least at first. Such a frame like you describe could eventually be built from knowledge gained.
Aspects of it may benefit more from Dominion cloning technology. It is unfortunate that the Dominion is unlikely to agree to transfer of their cloning tech during a civil war."


>>44415424
>Is his current personality linked to the "Eldal" body?
It was more so initially, he's moved away from that and thus been trying to build his own.

>Or are krath so hyper adaptable their skill atrophies at an incredibly fast rate?
Less the knowledge of the skills, more they're not as limber, flexible. Having a hard time describing it.
Think of it like muscle memory.

Have to go. I'm getting booted.
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>>44415739
Short answer: Yes.

So, if people should ever be unfortunate to stumble upon another one, the respective authorities can simply have a krath from watcher space tag along and solve things diplomatically?

Also, what's the difference between the two krath species at this point?


>You can have RTS Intel or House intel check in on them, but you run the chance of tipping them off.
Probably not worth it at this time.

>Eldal
I think he needs to find some balance. He has access to unique skills that can do a lot good or harm depending on how he chooses to use them.

On the other hand, the whole problem is so alien I'm not sure if something like that can even work for his species.
Has he considered looking through his species' history to find out how people dealt with it in the past?
That one krath from watcher space mentioned something about faction space krath infiltrators being little more than children, I think, maybe they figured out something that let's them balance things between maintaining their abilities and developing a personality?

>Dominion stuff
How does the Dominion handle claims on territory? Does it come down to "you can take/hold it, it's yours" or are things more complicated?

Is a war for former territory considered more acceptable than one for new land?
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>>44415991
>That one krath from watcher space mentioned something about faction space krath infiltrators being little more than children
This is a very good point.

Maybe putting Eldal in contact with him would be a good idea?
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>>44415739
Has the FA managed to get the wormhole generator working? Will we be able to loot different universes? Is the FA planning to reconnect the factions to their old territories?

Most importantly, will they let us use it if we come up with a plan that guarantees we're not using it militarily against any of the factions?To pay off their exbawx huge debt to Sonia for all that neat tech.

>unrelated
How much would a pre-FA kavarian mega outfitted for the same role as our anchorage cost without weapons? A slightly obsolete one from the warlords of w-kavarians would be fine too.

>>44416129
I'm not sure. The f-krath seem to have been pretty enthusiastic about killing off the remaining w-krath in known for a couple of centuries. That might cause some problems.
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>>44416537
>The f-krath seem to have been pretty enthusiastic about killing off the remaining w-krath in known for a couple of centuries
Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. That might cause some problems.
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Think the Krath got TSTG?
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>>44415068
Do any of the big Houses we're on speaking terms with offer a new frigate or light cruiser design?

>>44421280
>It is pitch black.
>You have upset House Jerik-Dremine.
>You are likely to be eaten by a Krath.
>_

>>44415068
How problematic could things become once he returns to the FA? It would be pretty annoying to have him develop a personality only for him to be killed on the next deployment against the Neeran because he can't keep up any more.
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>>44400723
>They want to buy ships from the yards in the Run.
Maybe we could help them pick the proper ships? Sonia did a pretty good job helping that one baron choose the right ship a few years ago.

This is probably important enough to warrant her attention.
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Safety bump.
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TSTG ded. Krath infiltrators killed him and his computer.
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>>44423994

While I doubt they're actually shopping so much as "we would like to buy this, this and this.", you do remind me of something.

What sort of pirate vessels have we captured/salvaged during these operations? It might be worth using some of them to conduct raids on Nasidum/Bonrah facilities, or even throw some enemy tactics back at them... KKV corvettes at the Bonrah graveyard facility, anyone?
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>>44429311
I am also curious about this. Must be at lest one mixed wing, if we are a bit lucky. But then again the real price will be when we take Nasidums Heavy for our self. I just hope we don't break it too much before we finally take it for ourselves seeing as it will be our replacement for Forbearance.
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>>44429311
I think we should stay away from Bonrah until they force an open confrontation.

Not resorting to raiders and similar stuff against (semi) civilian traffic and installations is probably good for our reputation.
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>>44415375
>>44415337
>>44415317
>>44415302
>[ ] Self identity is worth some sacrifice
Yeah and then it gets him killed because he lost his combat skills
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>>44415739
>You can have RTS Intel or House intel check in on them, but you run the chance of tipping them off.
I'm fine with having RTS intel check in on them, as long as we use intermediaries who think they are working for Nasidium, since they are highly likely to just accept that an enemy house is attempting to gather intel on stuff like fleet strenght. Especially since they are certainly doing that anyway. It'll be just one more spy ring.
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>>44430486
It isn't worth the risk of tipping them off that 1, the kid may be an actual threat, and 2, we may be involved.

We'd be searching their stuff for very specific information, rather than something broad like fleet information.
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>>44431295
I'd start looking for general information anyway.
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Did TSTG's computer explode?
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>>44434051
That seems to be the case. Especially since he hasn't posted to even update on what's happening.
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>>44434051
>>44435203

The Terrans found the SP torpedo file on his drive and Black Op'ed him.
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>>44434051
Apparently. While we are here, maybe we should talk about how we want to start helping out the Medel kid more. I've got a few ideas, but am interested in what others have to say.
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>>44435595
The difficulty in helping him out more is that we're now on the radar of Nasidum. While I'd like to bring him in to help us out, he does seem to be helping the FA, iirc, and a direct, overt connection could be problematic.

We need more proxies to aid him.
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>>44435595
Way I see it there are several different approaches we could take to help him establish himself.

We could feed him some money. Money, as we have proven many times, solves many problems. It allows him to perform bribes, hire mercenaries etc. Thing is it needs to be untraceable.

Supplying him with gear also helps. Giving him some salvages ships who no one will miss since we own the salvage company which found it and didn't report it to anyone besides itself. This also helps is deflect away potential fallout that might come our way if he is using ships which are not registered as coming from any House or yard that still exists. Weapons and ship upgrades also applies to this such as better weapons for his troops, munitions and starship gear.

We could also initiate a larger intelligence program that could assist him with espionage, assassination, sabotage and counter intelligence. Information is half the battle after all.

However helping him is kind of low priority now considering we're kind of bust wrestling stealthy with two of the great Houses at once with another 3 tussling about with us. If anything Medel has to wait until we've secured DRH01 for JD properly.
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>>44435829
One thing I think we shouldn't worry too much is about people realizing we did it after the fact. They bloody know we did it, since our personal fleet is probably going to end up backing him up once he makes his move and he's basically going to end up being J-D's first vassal house. The important thing is to ensure that it doesn't become obvious that we are supporting him until we are ready to move.
One of the big things we can do is notionally expand our RTS fleet, while actually preparing units for transfer to his command when the moment is right. For example, buying a few of the Dusk class ships to serve as escorts with intentions of later turning them over to him, or getting the House Transport refit into a good combat variant.
In addition, we should probably quietly contact Alosh Amila or another reputable merc we know to serve as the commander of his attack wings.
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Sorry, should have gotten around to posting a more definitive response to what's going on.

Bought a new computer but it's going to be a week before all of the parts are in and assembled.

Next thread should be on January 5th or 6th. Will update with the correct date. Sorry for not letting you guys know sooner, figured the thread would have died by now. Not going to be able to post much between then and now.
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>>44436568
Its cool, we were just discussing what to do about the Mendel kid. Incidentally, is the military list on the wiki accurate?
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>>44436523

Yeah, once he makes his move we'll probably have to overtly support him or it will fail. Barring something like getting him another, larger benefactor. JD may have issues having a vassal House that far away.

I'm not sure we should rig up the House Transport for combat, though. The design is really only good for transporting forces and as a carrier, both things which he'll probably be best off getting from backers, such as a major House we hook him up with.
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>>44436605
>Incidentally, is the military list on the wiki accurate?
No, Medel has built up at least 2 squadrons of newer Shallan attack cruisers since the shipyard was completed and started to pick up some Firestorm Mk 2's to augment them.

>>44436673
>once he makes his move we'll probably have to overtly support him or it will fail.
Indeed.

>JD may have issues having a vassal House that far away.
You could introduce him to representatives of Ber'helum?
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>>44436749
Very true though I was going to suggest Helios to get some more favor with them. But Ber'Helum are bros.
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>>44415991
>How does the Dominion handle claims on territory? Does it come down to "you can take/hold it, it's yours" or are things more complicated?
Political strength in terms of Alliances and finances can play a role. It's not unheard of for situations with two Houses each with strong backers to attempt legal action.
>Is a war for former territory considered more acceptable than one for new land?
It can be if the claim is strong or recent enough. Especially if there is local support from the civilian population.

>>44416537
>Has the FA managed to get the wormhole generator working?
Not the way it intended.
>Will we be able to loot different universes?
Maybe.


>>44422664
>Do any of the big Houses we're on speaking terms with offer a new frigate or light cruiser design?
Light cruiser sort of. People are mostly looking at attack cruisers with the option to simply throw more armor on them if necessary.
The Chevalier and Dragoon class are the closest. Haven't had a chance to put images with their wiki pages.
Frigates not so much since assault corvettes are sort of midway between older corvettes and Frigates in tonnage. Older frigate designs are seeing more use as armed cargo ships. Kharbos has their modified assault corvette design with an expanded hull to let it act more like a frigate.

>>44422664
>It is pitch black.
>You have upset House Jerik-Dremine.
>You are likely to be eaten by a Krath.

My first attempt at running a quest started something like that. It wasn't that great.
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>>44429311
>What sort of pirate vessels have we captured/salvaged during these operations?
Some vultures and hellcats, a few battlecruisers, only 1 Marauder as they usually stay away from the fighting. Older Frigates and corvettes, usually that showed signs they were to be scrapped soon. Some newer ships built in South Reach or the PCCG for use by mercs and pirates.

Many of the houses that have suffered under raiding are desperate for ships to defend their space and would like some of them if possible.

[ ] Save them for future raiding of your own
[ ] Share the wealth
[ ] mix of both / save certain ships for us
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>>44437719
>[ ] mix of both / save certain ships for us
Keep any Maruaders for the house though
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>>44437719
Share the majority with the other house.
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>>44437719
>[ ] mix of both / save certain ships for us
Mainly the battlecruisers, I want to establish a new battlecruiser squadron.
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>>44437719

[x] Mix of Both

Preferably, we hand out ships primarily to those Houses that have joined our Alliance. This should give others incentive to join with us, but we still give the non-Bonrah/Nasidum Houses ships, too.

I'd agree with holding the Marauder and most battlecruisers for ourselves. Maybe offer one of the BCs to the Helios commander?

It may also be worth holding onto a few of those older frigates/corvettes? The KKV tactic that was attempted against the RH's base could be a fun distraction for us to use, drawing out a location's defenders for our actual attack craft to jump them, or maybe even use as FTL decoys when we have to go after a sensor array in Bonrah space?
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>>44415991
>what's the difference between the two krath species at this point?
>That one krath from watcher space mentioned something about faction space krath infiltrators being little more than children, I think, maybe they figured out something that let's them balance things between maintaining their abilities and developing a personality?

WARNING: Out of character knowledge follows since it's simpler for me this way.

Faction space Krath are more restrictive of what memories and abilities are passed on to those leaving their worlds. It is their belief that too much knowledge is dangerous, especially in the form of destructive abilities, and concepts of chaotic or self serving personality traits that might result in them going rogue.

Those from watcher space have had time to harness those same destructive elements. They are descended from butchers, murderers and war criminals. While that same capability -and some of those memories- are within all of them, that does not make them the same as their ancestors.

They referred to the agents sent from the Krath homeworlds as children because they are undeveloped comparatively, in ability but especially in personality and knowledge of self.

All Krath assuming the identity of another can run into what I tend to referr to as "the Telepath problem."
Taking on too much memory and personality of another can cause an agent to lose track of themselves. Eldal as previously shown can only doppelganger so many people per day or he gets mixed up. It's why he wanted to hold off taking the place of many/anyone except the Neeran captain.

Something similar can happen to inexperienced Neeran too when doing their mind reading trick.

For those who read bodysnatcher quest this more or less happened to the MC, though in that case it was because the bodysnatcher and human host were both brain damaged by an overdose.
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>>44413690
>bountyhunter combat mining barge
I'm going to say it's finished being fully upgraded and has been assigned to assist with patrols of the Run, unless you want it helping to hunt down pirates elsewhere.

It it on loan to the House military or is RTS using it?

>What is going on with House Sulos?
They've sided with House Bonrah.

>I still note they are marked as Helios allies on the map, however.
I'll have to change that then.

>Has Myrish Avun or anyone else attempted to contact us?
Not yet. Didn't a few people previously want to hold off contact attempts in case it got Avun in trouble?

>What did we do with the crew of that ship? I don't want to put the people who weren't making the decisions lose their job.
They were granted asylum on Kaartinen.
>>44414108
>Most of them are on that world we just helped save, in the... middle nation?
Southern nation. Which is an amusing coincidence as the terrorists may have been from there and were trying to trigger fighting between the other two countries.

>Actually, we should see if they would like the FA to arrange transport for them back to norune space. Some of them might want to help defend their people against the Neeran, and I'm sure we could ensure safe passage on a FA vessel for them.
Do you want to extend this offer?
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>>44439102
I thought the barge was going to be a House vessel, but if Sonia/RTS can get it they should.

That said, it should be on loan to the House military, I think. Unless we have a shortage of military to crew the vessel and extra RTS folks that can be trusted with it, it seems like the best option.

>Sulos siding with Bonrah

I wonder how they feel about being surrounded by our Alliance. With the Civil War going on, do they need permission to move warships through these new Allies of ours?

We should probably aim to both conduct some diplomacy with Sulos, and the Faction Alliance base commanders in the region.
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Thread archived, see you next week.

>>44413758
>Have we managed to decode their log?
Most of it is decrypted along with their navigation data, all of which the Navigators are very interested in. Not all of the sensor data makes sense to your people but that may be the result of possible subspace rifts.

They plotted a course to a nearby inhabited system within the hazard zone where they picked up additional supplies and stasis systems for a long term flight back to the Run. They spent a few months in that system performing trade, moving cargo and completing 1 bounty mission to make enough money to do so.
After that they were able to book use of a local repulsor accelerator station to launch their ship back towards the Run at high sublight speeds. They used several methods to decelerate after reaching the Run including gravity and aerobraking in addition to their own repulsors and fusion drives.

>>44439447
>I wonder how they feel about being surrounded by our Alliance.
I need to fix the maps and colour schemes.

They haven't had territory in the DRH 1 relay since before the Warlords campaign. They didn't support the war effort at first.
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Right, one more post.

>>44415302
>>44415317
>>44415337
>>44415375
>>44415404
>>44415302


"Self identity is worth some sacrifice." You tell him. "Learn to be you, find out who you are and what you want to be."

He seems to consider your words.

>>44429631
"Still try to get some practice in though. I wouldn't want you getting killed because you lost all your combat skills. It may not seem like it some day's but I'm training all the time to stay in shape and able to fight if necessary."

"I will keep that in mind. Thank you. I'm glad you're less inquisitive about certain things than your sister." Eldal tells you.

"What do you mean?"

>Some time earlier...
"So do you guys do the freaky tentacle sex thing?"
>Back in the present...

"She asked you WHAT?!"

See you next week.
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>>44440054
What the fuck Bekka! Time to call her and ream her a new one yeah?

Thanks for the run mate.
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>>44440054
>He seems to consider your words.
Maybe more than anything, he could use an object or item of significance as an 'anchor' to remind him?
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>>44439102
> barge
Whoever can get more use out of mit.

> transport to norune space
Sure.

>>44437701
>>44439842
> not working as intended
That's unfortunatel. Can it still send ships to any point in fa territory? If that's the case I have idea that doesn't violate the fa rules, and helps us, the fa, and one or several of the bigger dominion houses.

>>44438553
Would it help eldal if we try to enable him to establish written contact with these guys?

>>44440054
bekka added to waifu list. You aren't a proper noble if you can't fit twice the ancestral generations into half the space everybody else would need on the family tree.
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>>44437701
> frigates
Thanks. Are people designing destroyers to take over the classic frigate roles?

>>44437719
Would it be possible to have the anchorage refurbish the older frigates and corvette. Doesn't kharbos sell an upgrade programme for older corvette.
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>>44440054
>>44440110
That's just healthy adolscent sex drive
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>>44440054
>"So do you guys do the freaky tentacle sex thing?"
>>Back in the present...
>
>"She asked you WHAT?!"

"So… do you?"

Anyway, thanks for the thread, TSTG. I hope all goes right with your new computer!
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TSTG, what's up with House Che'len? I think we have never interact with anybody from that House.

Would it worthwhile to support them if there is the chance to do so?

>saged



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