>>42995783
Neutral Spooky.

>>42995783
Chaotic good.

>>42995783
Pugsley is CN, Wednesday is pretty clearly NE, the rest seem to sit closer to the CG corner.

>>42995783
Creepy Kooky

>>42997147
Mysterious Spooky

>>42995783
CE to CG

Wednesday Adams
>Spooky Childhood Crush
probably the cause all my liking for spooky and weird things

>>42997246
>Black Snake Moan
probably the cause all my liking for dyed blonde and trashy things

Always liked the idea that the Addams clan was so large that there were dozens of weird eccentric families like them spread across the globe. Those odd people on the hill by the graveyard outside of town: every country has at least one, and nobody can quite remember how long they've been there.

Gave me the idea for a NWoD campaign where the players are given a juicy plothook that a reclusive family of vampires are sitting on a huge fortune. When they get there of course, they notice that these spooky people are not quite like any vampires they've ever seen before, and seem sort of friendly but hey, loot. This plot would obviously be aimed at a somewhat amoral party that could be tempted to steal the cash anyways.

So they rob the "vampires" (who are obviously a group of Addams proxies) and maybe even mortally wound a few... only to find they've angered a world-wide clan of supernatural beings who might seem kooky and silly, but who respond to threats against their relatives and their holdings with unfathomably ruthless intensity, and who don't stay dead no matter what punishment you heap upon them.

TL;DR: trick the players into robbing the Addamsesy and ending up on the run from the entire extended family

>>42997286
that was one weird movie

>>42997420
>Addamsesy

Hurp-a-derp, I can't type.

>>42997420
"Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc" and all that.

CG to Addamses, NE to humanity in general.

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>>42997420
>So they rob the "vampires" (who are obviously a group of Addams proxies) and maybe even mortally wound a few.
Tough job tbh. An Addams family-alike would work very well as a group of libertine Ashwood Abbey hunters too.

>>42997420
If they're foolish enough to not see that coming, they deserve it.

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>>42997246
>>42997286
>tfw that dirty fuck Vincent Gallo ruined adult Christina Ricci

>>42997469

Precisely. I liked the idea of what would happen if the Addamses genuinely got mad. I mean, they fucked up the villains in the two movies pretty royally. Imagine what they'd do to someone who actually stole their stuff, escaped, and maybe even killed a family member in the process.

>>42997518

Well, it could be a tough job if you tried to take down the Addamses first. But if the players just went for the fortune, and if the plot hook provided them with a clue or secret to make that easier, I could see them getting in and out by the skin of their teeth.

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>>42997580
I just mean that nothing really seems to faze them, even what would (apparently) be mortal harm. They'd be tough to kill.

I'm not sure that vampire is the best thing either. They're sort of vague, nondescript monsters and they seem restricted just being vamps. I wonder if that new monster supplement could cover them.

>>42997539

Well, you'd have to make the Addams proxy not too obvious. Maybe have them resemble the Addamses themselves, but frame them as if it's some other branch of the family. Like, their cousins in Germany or something. Put them in a castle instead of a decrepit house, put them on a cliff overlooking the sea, mix up the character personalities with other cliches. Just enough to throw the players off the scent.

Then, when the full clan begins the pursuit, maybe Morticia and Gomez show up.

>>42997625

I wasn't saying that they WERE vamps, but that the players got misleading information to make them think that. Some informant passes them a story about the rich family of vamps, but when the players arrive they find that while the family is obviously supernatural and gothic, they don't actually seem like vampires, but who cares, maybe it's just a type of vamp they haven't heard of before, and there's all this money...

>>42997637

Dangit, I still can't type. Meant have them NOT resemble the Addamses themselves.

>>42997667
Morticia was definitely a Vamp.

One of the really, really old ones. The ones that seem like mortal gods in grace and elegance and quiet power.

They're evil people, but they're not bad people.

>>42995783
Lawful good

>>42997753
What was Uncle Fester? Dude seems to be practically indestructible, particularly where electricity is involved.

>>42997769
This nails it.

>>42997753
>>42997858
They're both just Addamses fam.

>>42997858
>marmalade for blood
>circuitry on his skin
>weightless
You tell me

Lawful Good, at least in the TV show. They value honesty and philanthropy, and try to do the right thing.

>>42997903
This.

They are lawful good, but they have very different values on aesthetics and etiquette.

>>42997925

They accidentally murder a stripper in the second movie and just shrug it off with "c'est la vie!"

>>42997903
Yeah. They were never really portrayed as evil. Just eccentric.

>>42997925
Exactly. Most of the humor in the TV series revolves around the Addams genuinely wanting to do nice stuff, but their weird tastes make even more problems for the normals. They have a torture chamber and throw knives at each other, but they don't want to hurt anyone. They genuinely think they're doing the right thing.

>>42997992
The movies and the TV series are very, very different, both in tone and personality. The movies is grimmer and closer to the original comics, but I kinda like the friendlier TV series Adams better.

>>42998009
I guess the important thing is stuff like that IS casual fun to other Addamses.

>>42997580
If you killed on of their family members they wouldnt get mad because that would be the normal thing to do. They would probably thank you for freeing up a bedroom.

>>42998067
I don't think you understand how the Adams view family. Family is very important to them, to the point they even still play games with their dead relatives. They would not be happy if someone killed a family member.

Yes they do all kinds of odd things, stuff we consider torture is normal for them, fun even, but they don't kill.

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Their whole narrative is wholeheartedly dedicated to the rejection of conventionality and order.

They are utterly apathetic towards the welfare of other people.

They are Chaotic Neutral in a nutshell.

That being said, they would make a terrible D&D adventuring party and no neckbeard should attempt to emulate them except in a campaign specifically dedicated to that theme.

>>42998667

Well, it's sometimes implied they kill each other regularly, but it just doesn't stick.

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It's amazing what age can do!

Gomez and Morticia Adams were one of the greatest tv love stories and very supportive parents.

It's not just their weirdness and eccentricity that makes them a tough opponent. Luck is on their side, always. If you go against them, everything will go wrong for you, often in the most horrible way imaginable. Both Murphy and Finagle may as well be Adamses.

>>42998887
Just cause you stopped someones heart for a minute or two doesn't mean you killed them.

>>43001444
It probably does when the electric chair is involved.

>>42997180
All together ooky

>>43001508
That was Wednesday though, who is the evilest of the lot.

>>42995783
Lawful Neutral.
They have difficulty with social norms and find things like torture and murder fascinating, but they stay wholly within the confines of the law and only practice their crafts on the willing, IE each other.

Remember that they see causing misery to be a form of affection, like the "playful" torture between Pugsley and Wednesday, or the more intimate torture between Gomez and Morticia ("She meets your gaze and promises, To send you to the sky, When all the while behind that smile, She's wondering how you'll die, That's why it's so delicious, To be dominated by Morticia")

The only real "evil" they do is Gomez constantly breaking his neighbors windows with golfballs and Wednesday casually traumatizing girlscouts with simple phrases and statements.

>>42997667
In the very first Addams Family story, Wednesday and Pugsly smile while their mother buys them a pet dragon.
That was in fact the direct inspiration for the pet dragon in The Munsters.

>>42997753
That may not be.
Its played that neither Morticia nor Gomez are actually aware of which one of them Grandmama is the mother of, and she may in fact not be related to them at all.

But if Grandmama IS Morticia's mother like some works suggest, she can't be that old.

>>42997576
>Vincent Gallo
Yeah, fuck that guy. I hate him.

So, what are some of your favorite episodes?

>>43001609

They also practice it on those who wrong them. They murdered the shit out of Tully, Pinder-Schloss, and Debbie.

>>43002349
Killing someone who's trying to rob and/or murder you is perfectly legal in most circumstances, and is hardly morally offensive.

Just because the Addams family was usually fairly creative in its means of self defense doesn't make them baddies.

>>42997885
A real local character.

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>>42997246
Seconded. Between Her and Lydia Deetz from Beetlejuice, my spookychick fetish had fertile ground to grow in.

>>43002349
Wednesday definitely burned that camp chick alive.

>>43003898
It's funny how the Addams Family movies are generally seen as family-friendly stuff to laugh at with your kids, but in actuality have some of the darkest content ever committed to film.

True Spooky.

>>42997576
>>42997429
Watch the original, it's better.
Called somethign different though. The Taming of the Shrew, directed by a Bill Shakespeare.

>>43005030
Are you retarded?

>>43003898

Actually, they show her and her parents alive later. Remember when baby Pubert gets bounced up so high he looks through the window of a plane? That's the family sitting by the window.

>>43005030
I understand the idea that any narrative can be traced back to a classical archetype, but I think you have Buffalo '66 confused with a different movie.

>>43003872
It's kind of adorable how completely unlike the movie the cartoon is.

>>43004549
What's really great is how Morticia and Gomez' relationship was propped up as how to portray a loving BDSM relationship in the aftermath of the "50 Shades" fiasco.

>>42995783
This is actually the best "what alignment is X" thread I've ever seen. It's always more fun when people ask about interesting shit than waifus or pop culture hot topics. Good on you, OP.

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I made this a while ago but i haven't seen an alignment thread in ages, it's related of course because the great man played Gomez

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>>43010176

In possibly the worst adaptation of the franchise, yes.

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I like phrasing alignment questions as "X ends by Y means".

For example, Lawful Evil. You can pursue lawful ends (a nice orderly kingdom) by evil means (torturing anyone who opposes you, sending revenants to haunt your foes), or you can pursue evil ends (summoning a greater Outer God) by lawful means (organizing the bureaucracy so people volunteer as cultists).

The Addams are Chaotic Ends by Any Means.

>>42995783
Chaotic Lawful

>>43001661
Or her mother is fucking ancient.

>>42997420
Well, okay, so you want the group to steal from the Addams family, but do you realise what that involves? First you have to find the secret entrance to the vault passage. Then there will be some sort of deadly fun ride to the vault door. Then you'd need some ridiculously elaborate/theatric password. (I suggest making your group actually perform the password.

The Addamses probably keep a few deadly pets in the vault too. Not as guards, but because those pets are most comfortable in that sort of environment.

>>43011193

And then, when you're done stealing, the Addams family waves you off from the Widow's Walk on the roof, as if to congratulate you on your heist.

Then the treasure explodes into snakes.

>>43011220
Now that you mention it... would the Addamses even realise that they've been burgled? I can just picture it actually. The party murderhobos the entire family, makes it to the vault, hauls the treasure up and out, and BAM. Whole Addams family is playing in the living room when they come out, greets the party in a friendly manner, and just chats on like nothing happened.

"Oh, you wanted some treasure for a charitable cause? Sure, sure, go ahead, help yourselves! Hey, why not take these exploding gems while you're at it? Go ahead, help yourself, it's so nice that you're collecting money for the Unburied Undead Charity!

True Neutral.

>>43011343

They'd just be baffled. I mean, you rob *tombs* and *banks* and *orphanages*. Not their house.

I mean, all their money is in the bank; Gomez is no fool. Sure, they might have some gold bars and dubloons in the vault for sentimental reasons, but burglars? Really?

They'd treat it as a sort of game. Home Alone, but with more encouragement. "Nice dodge, old sport! Now watch out for the trapdoor!" Constantly one step ahead of the invaders, or one step right behind their shoulder.

How would you even rob the Adams family vault? According to the movies, it's layer upon layer of nightmare puzzle traps with ejection systems.

The first movie was all about robbing the vault and they spent weeks in the mansion alone and couldn't get past the first few rooms.

>>42997420
I'll remind you that robbing Gomez was the plot of the first movie and it didn't work too well.

>>42997858
Promethean

>>43000407
Ok now, if there would be a Adams Family remake, who would be in the cast? Apart from Ricci as Morticia of course.

>>43012152
Adam sandler as gomez
How many people get killed in the resulting shitstorm?

>>43012184

Precisely 1.

I once bandied about concepts for a short two-page ruleset for an Addams Family RPG where you could play the Addamses we know or one of the many, many, many twisted branches of that mutant family tree. But I stymied myself because I couldn't get away from the concept that the rollable stats should be Creepy, Kooky, Mysterious, Spooky, and Altogether Ooky.

Shouldnt morticia have married into the family since gomez and fester are confirmed original addams?

>>42997885
>marmalade for blood
Where was this mentioned? Was it in the cartoon? (I didn't watch the cartoon.)

>>43012259
Just because she's not one by blood it doesn't mean she's not an Addams
Then again there are Addams all over the world so she might be from a branch family

>>43010176
Reunion was fucking awful and never happened.

>>43012259
Fester is Morticia's uncle, anon.

>>43016780
Oh man, gross.

>>43016835
What's gross about him being someone's uncle?
He's Morticia's uncle, which makes Gomez his nephew-in-law.

>>43016780
In one of the movies isnt it stated that Fester is Gomez's brother?


Pretty sure it is.

>>43016876
Fester is Gomez's brother...

>>43017095
>>43017034
>>43016876
>>43016780

It all depends on which movie/series you're watching.

Same applies for the grandmother, in one series she's Gomez's mother, in another she's Morticia's mother. They make a self-referential joke about it in one of the movies.

>>43017034
>>43017095
That's only in the movies.
In the series he's Morticia's uncle.

>>43017095
>Morticia is Gomez's sister

>>43017257
>you will never be a spooky billionaire in a lovingly sadistic twincest relationship with your sister

>>43017357
>Why even live?

>>43007760

Thank you, anon

>>43017357

Well, better start working on just beeing a spooky billionaire

>>42995783
True Spooky

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>>42997420
>successfully rob the Addams clan
>run into their relatives everywhere you try to escape to, only get away by a gnat's eyelash
>somehow get chased into ISIS territory...
>...where you now have 3 problems: 1. ISIS fighters 2. the local Al-Adami family whom even ISIS won't mess with and 3. Drone strikes
>yfw

>>43019669
For some reason that made me laugh way more than it should have done.

>>42997469
If you want real Latin: Qui nos opprimere velint, illos libenter devoramus.

>>42995783
2spooky4u CG

>>43019669
>>43021639
It was probably this part, because my sides are gone too:

>2. the local Al-Adami family whom even ISIS won't mess with
>whom even ISIS won't mess with

>>43010176
But Anon, in IT's domain, they ALL float.
That sound rather Lawful, doesn't it?

>>42997420
I've been wanting to come up with a bigger backgroud for a Miracle Max type NPC for a while.

I think I'm going to use it, if you don't mind.

>420 Blaze It

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>>42998740
They're only a bad adventuring party 'cause they have no motivation to adventure. You can make a similar character and add motivation.

>>43027682
>Jayne
>Chaotic Evil
He's a dick, and he's mostly motivated by self-interest, but I wouldn't say he's really evil. More a case of how to do a proper, constructive, not "lulsorandumb" Chaotic Neutral.
Note that every time he gets a chance to do something truly vile, he's pretty disgusted by it. And before you point to the whole thing with turning in Simon and River in Ariel, remember that from his perspective he was protecting the crew from the trouble those two were bringing down on their heads.
Much like Mal, he's just a guy who's decided that to make it day to day in his line of work he HAS to be a bad person. So he tries to be. But he's not very good at it. Pulls it off better than Mal, but still not very well.

>>43028330
I think the overall point of the picture was that none of these characters are by definition what the alignment says, just tend towards it, but can function with others.

You could very easily argue for Norrington that he's not good, or even lawful, because of stuff he did in Pirates 2, but he did it because he craved his old life as an officer, and loathed the barbarism of pirates -> Law. And when it came down to it, he sacraficed himself for what is right -> Good.

This picture is more about a loose boundry of alignments, than the strict one most people bring up, in which no one who ever lived fits in.

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>>43027682
>>43028330
This. A better example of Chaotic Evil working within a party would be pic related

>>43028330
Remember how he through his partner out of the spaceship because the money was too heavy?

Remember how Mal recruited Jayne by paying him more money, and he shoots the man working with him without remorse?

He could be chaotic evil.

>>43028757
Riddick is a less debatable example

>>43028978
>through his partner out of the spaceship because the money was too heavy?
You mean his partner who was as much of a psychotic asshole as Jayne acted like?
>Mal recruited Jayne by paying him more money, and he shoots the man working with him without remorse?
You mean the employers who were total dicks to him judging by the few seconds of interaction we saw?

>>43028978
He wounded his employer, he didn't kill him.

>>43028330
If you don't think Jane's evil, you've set the bar too high. There may be an argument that he's trending towards Chaotic Neutral by the end, but if you look at some of the shit he's done, there's really no question that he's coming from Evil.

>>43030353

That's the problem with some alignment charts. Jayne may have started out on the evil side of things, but by the time the movie rolls around, he's evolved past that.

"If you can't do something smart, do something right."

>>42997753

... eh, she could be a Witch.

>>43030403
Jane's character arc over the series and movie is from definately Chaotic Evil, to the good side of Chaotic Neutral. The death of Book was the last push that made him decide there was better stuff to kill for than just money.

>>42995783
CG
The Addams family are WEIRD, CHAOTIC, and GROTESQUE...but in all honesty they're the sweetest people on the face of the planet.
You know all the "play violence," yeah, if they wanted to they could easily murder each other, but they don't. Instead they play a high-risk game(their lives) that would only appeal to the greatest adrenaline junkies. Each fight, each torture, hell, the sheer playfullness of their existance is done because they need the excitement. (Bare in mind in the series they had a Lion called "kitty" who never actually went after people...unless they deserved it, it was basicly an oversized cat as far as the Addams were concerned.)

>>42997420
>>42998667
Now here's the kicker, Gomez is a playful man, but like all playful protagonists imagine him if someone actually maliciously murdered Morticia .
That normally quiet smiling face in a mask of fury, not speaking, not playing, aiming to harm, maim, THEN kill.
Normally I might suggest suicide as a way out, but in all honesty, given their connections with Witches, Witch-Doctors, Mediums, etc. I'm not sure even that would keep the entire clan off your back.

>>42997576
>>43027335
I remember her as a child. I feel dirty right now.

WhyBoner.jpg

>>43027335
What movie is this?

>>42997885
>>43003096
I still don't know. A robot I guess?

>>43012232
I'm pretty sure that Ookiness would be kind of a combination of experience and fate points. Like, you can temporarily spend some Ookiness to avoid death, and if you do it in a thematically appropriate way (someone kills you, then you pop out of a coffin about half an hour later right in front of whoever it was) you might get awarded some more Ookiness.

>>43028757
The funny thing about Riddick is that he's hyped up in the movies as this super-dangerous murderer and criminal, but we never really see him do anything evil.

I mean, he's killed lots of people, but it's always in self defense against people trying to claim the bounty on him.

>>43028757
>>43028978

Riddik isn't evil, he just wants to be left alone and doesn't think your survival is his problem. TN.

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>>43032216
Heh. We never get to find out why he was a prisoner in the first place in Pitch Black.
All the later movies and games make it look like his past is catching up with him and he's just fighting for survival, but maybe the shitstorm started with him eating a baby.

I know there is some half hearted stuff about Furia and blubb. But it's really nothing of substance.

>>43032244

Checked, but we only have the movies (and video game) to go by, and in those he doesn't see out trouble and he doesn't kill anyone who doesn't ask for it.

>>43032252
Yeah just saying we don't know for sure. And in Pitch Black there is this nice scene where he's obviously contemplating just going full murderhobo on the pilot until he finds out she's got blood until her hands too. The later movies tried to make him look more sympathetic.

Btw, the games are much, much better than the movies in terms of writing ironically. If those had been made into movies I'm pretty sure Riddick would be even more popular.

>>42995874
Fuck, I had the exact thought

>>42997420
NOt that I think abou tit.

NWoD had a splat for the fucking Crow!
How come they didn't do one for the Addams family?

>>42997780
>Donating to orphanages because "the world needs more orphans."
> donations will be massive
> will bury people alive
> won't ever miss a school performance
> will show you horrors unending
> always fantastic hosts

Sounds about right.

>>43010176
What role is LN? I don't recognize it.

>>43033572
The Butler from Clue.

>>43010176
Long John Silver is NOT Chaotic Good, even in the Muppets version. He's at best True Neutral. In the original story he's Lawful Evil without a doubt.

>>43032178
Riddick was based on the Drow Assassin Vin Diesel played in a DnD game: dual wielding, light-blindness, everyone hates him on sight, spends much of the film staring at people silently for 6 seconds then murdering them.

In his behavior he's an archetypal chaotic PC: he has a "checkered past" backstory filled with nameless bad deeds, but never actually behaves that way when in the spotlight and he has a weakness for well-played NPCs.

>>42995783
They're textbook fish-malks.

>>43035562
Too consistent

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>>43019669
>2. the local Al-Adami family whom even ISIS won't mess with

You're saying they're Jews?...

>>43038121
wat?

>>43012152
depp somewhere.
the movei would be probably made by Tim Burton anyway.

>>43030849
Given Gomez's fantastic sword skill alone, the man would be a horrifying enemy. Then add the mysterious and spooky elements...

>>43019669
>>43019669
>the local Al-Adami family whom even ISIS won't mess with
>Al-Adami

My fucking sides.

>>42997246
>>42997286

Hey, me too on both these things!

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>>42995783
>alignments
>2015

SIC GORGIAMUS SUBJECTATUS NUNC

Not just pretty words ...

>>42997246
>Wednesday Adams
>Spooky Childhood Crush
>probably the cause all my liking for spooky and weird things

Personally, it was Mia Sara in "legend" wearing THAT black dress that flicked the switch for me...
Been a sucker for a goth in long black dresses ever since.

>>43034648

I think that's from something else. Wadsworth is Lawful Evil anyway.

>>43041252
Well, you're wrong. Lawful Neutral on that chart is the Butler from Clue.

Not saying I agree with it mind.

best thread on /tg/ right now

>>43033572
The Concierge from Home Alone 2

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>>43043399
Fuck. I(>>43041302) was wrong.

>>43043612
It's OK, I LOVE you!

BAGELS ARE NOT DOUGHNUTS CAPTCHA GET IT TOGETHER

>>43043762
They just look so much alike...

>>43041302

Actually, I recognize that collar. That's when he's the "Evil Concierge" in Home Alone 2.

I put Evil Concierge in air quotes because A: Concierges aren't evil, and B: The man was trying to make sure a child wasn't by himself running around New York! lol

>>43012152
for some stupid reason i'm picturing terry crews as uncle fester

>>43045971

Why when Lloyd is still alive?

>>43032178
He was going to abandon them all when he had the chance, it took the leading lady to call him on his shit to make him not abandon them.

>>43033514
Well. if you took a lot of liberties... you could make beasts into the Adams Family.

So what relative adams family have besides the main family?

>>43049190
Ugh.

Don't insult the Addamses like that.

>>43038502
All the Muslims are pointing and laughing at ISIS because ISIS is the best of all terrorist organizations at finding excuses as to why they are not going to fight Israel anytime soon.

They basically are killing everybody inhabiting the Middle and Near East but the Jews.

>>43049306
Cousin It.

>>43039001
I remember an episode where Gomez went out and deliberately tried to fail at something because it had never happened to him before. He found himself completely incapable of doing so, and got all depressed until Morticia pointed out that he'd failed to fail at anything.

>>43049306
I think Jack the Ripper was mentioned in the first film

Flora and Fiona the conjoined twins may or may not have been distant cousins

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>>43049428
Forgot pic.

>>43049438
I remember that episode and it was wonderful.

They all were

>>42995783
Chaotic Neutral.

They don't care about society's rules.
They don't go out of their way to hurt you.
They don't go out of their way to help you.
They do what they do because it's what they do.
If you involve yourself with them, they treat you just like they treat family.
If you can cope with that, then you ARE family.
If you can't, it's your own fault for not realizing that things are different among the Addams.

>>43049500
>They don't go out of their way to help you.
Yes they do.

They donate antiquities to be auctioned off for charitable causes.

>>42995783
Overall?

Spooky Good.

Hell, they are the best neighbours you'd get.

Eccentric and creepy looking, but good neighbours no less.

>>43049527
I said "they don't go out of their way" to help you. If you ask for help, they will give it to you. If you threaten them they might react.

Maybe not exactly in the way you expected, but they will do SOMETHING.

>>43049577
>Best Neighbours.

Remind me /tg/, was there ever a crossover betwee The Adams Family and Mr. Rogers' Neighbourhood?
And if the answer is no: Why? I mean I know they were seprated by like 2 years with the original, but still. Come on.

>>43049577
I dunno. They aren't too good with keeping up the outside of their house, or mowing the lawn. They'd probably bring down property values in the neighborhood.

>>43049671
Yeah, but they'd also lower the crime rate after awhile since criminals would quickly learn not to fuck with anybody in the neighborhood. So it's a mixed bag.

>>43049438
...that is actually pretty adorable.

Once played a black crusade game oriented like the Addams.

For ways to run the Addams, what about Changeling?

>>43032692
Same thought here as well.

I hope I have a relationship as loving as Gomez and Morticia's.
They fuck like undead rabbits.

>>43033514
>NWoD had a splat for the fucking Crow!
>How come they didn't do one for the Addams family?

Crow is a supernatural character consistent with the WoD setting and theme.

The Addams Family is a cartoon from the New Yorker magazine.

>>43051393
They don't look like changelings:
>Live happily together
>Live for a long time
>Apparently are not afraid of some great terrror waiting to eat them.
>DOn't suffer from PSTD


As fro them being true Fae
>They are not dicks enough to be true fae

ALthough they abide by their own morals that are perpendicular to the morals of normal humans...
Maybe they could be True fae.

So the players would be changelings that escaped them? What they were doing in the mansion.

>>43030849
He'd bring her back as a zombie. Of course, all that would mean is their high-risk sexual play would include playing ding-dong-ditch with the local church and doing shots of holy water.

>>43019669
>got to Japan
>the Atami clan comes after you with a gashadokuro

>>43038800
Depp as Gomez?

>>43052306
I was thinking that the Addams core family would be true Fae, who make more of their family (changelings that grow into fae) through finding "new branches", those on their way likely being supernatural entities and pets they keep about the place. Or guys lIke Lurch, Thing, and the like that decided the life wasn't for them. I mean, Gomez and Morticia can't remember who was Granny's kid, Uncle Fester in the movie they found him was normal until he spent time with them, and when they find someone with the kind of spirit that speaks to them, that person ends up part of the family.

>>43052503
This made me laugh more than it should have

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>>43019669

Are the Addams family a family of PCs?

>>43052591
Uncle Fester was always Uncle Fester, he'd just lost his memory. They don't suddenly decide "this guy fits in, he's the new uncle." Normal people join the family through marriage sometimes, though, like that woman who fell in love with Cousin It.

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>>43054418
>tfw you'll never enter into the Addams Clan

>>43054418
Is Uncle Fester actually anyone's uncle? Or is he Uncle like Uncle was Uncle in Jackie Chan Adventures? At one point, he was someone's uncle, but now it's been any number of generations and no one wants to be the one to piss him off by adding a "grand" somewhere.

>>43056125
See >>43017133

>>43049605

Because despite how much we love them... They weren't very good neighbors.

Riddick is true neutral with a slice of good and a slice of evil.

he has an INCREDIBLE weakspot for children and innocence that people, namely Johns Jr. take advantage of, that is how Jr. captured him afterall.

the movies make a point that almost all of his reputation is simply built up from the previous event that was caused by his reputation.

so the more bullshit he gets pulled into against any will of his own, just adds to his crazy reputation, and furthers the fear and respect his name is accredited too.

he'll abandon the fuck out of you, but he won't kill you, hell he doesn't even kill the people that fuck with them till they cross some moral line he has set for them, such as Johns, when he was willing to use Jack as a diversion.

until that moment him and Johns had an understanding, and Johns broke the contract.

>>43056882
They were super friendly though

>>43034949
I bet you're a real ladies' man anon.

>>43027682
Holy stinging eyeballs Batman, that's some shitty choices for the text colour.

>>43054089
This explains so much.

>>43058967
Friendliness aside, can you imagine how many noise complaints Uncle Fester would cause?

>>43031925
Buffalo '66 I think.

>>43038502
It's like rock paper scisors
The Jews fear the samurai
The Muslims fear the Jews and their dark magicks
Samurai are exploded by muslims

Never caught on as a game though, the hand poses were too complex for anyone but a master shadow puppeteer.

>>43010481
fuck man, that comic page makes me actually sad for a person who does not exist. i think im too empathetic.

bump

>>42995783
Neutral evil? Their values are definitely evil (pro death, murder, violence) but they don't seem malicious about it.

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>>43059972

Why are you on 4chan then?

>>43064198
>Pic
>Not named 4chan.gif

>>43056125
It varies depending on which version you're talking about. Like Granny he switches sides of the family, and also generations. For instance he was Morticia's Uncle in the old TV show, but Gomez's brother in the movies.

>>42995783
Somewhere between CN and CG

>>42997420
Isnt this kinda true, in the film where fester loses his memory and shit, they have a family get together and theres LOADS of dark weird people there

>>42997200
>CE
Literally who?

>>43012152
Bruce Jenner as Morticia

>>43066829
Probably Wednesday.

I'd say she's more of a NE myself.

>Gomez/Morticia's/Itt = Chaotic Good
>Fester/Granny/Pugsley = Chaotic Neutral
>Lurch = True Neutral
>Wednesday = Neutral Evil

So let's try to make a changeling Addams campaign.

What would be the plot hooks?

>>43066933
Social Services take the Addams children, chaos ensues and the PCs come in to see why half the foster families in the area are in the hospital.

>>43066878

Christina Ricci would be better.

>>43066878
He has the face and the weirdness, but I don't think he has the proper build for Mortician.

>>43066786

Yeah. Also at the wedding in the second movie, and there's also something weird about that restaurant they go to in the second, which is in a cave and Gomez says "We used to come here all the time but they have... remodeled."

I love the idea that not only are there hundreds of Addams clan enclaves all around the world, but also an underground network of bars, restaurants, banks, clubs, etc, etc that caters to them.

>>43068382
Fuck upholding the masquerade, build a big house and flaunt that weird shit.

>>43052643
What about the Attamskis? Or the Atahuelas?

>>43068382
>>43066786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCNyHprEZK8

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>>43066956
Oh god dammit, my sides

>>43068969
>our kazakh cousins
>addams family tradition
Confirmed.

>>43068942
>Attamskis live in the middle of nowhere, Siberia.
>Tunguska was their eldest daughter's 12th birthday party.

>>43001444
Brain removal and replacent is probably FATAL...
...
My spellcheck auto-capatalyzes that word. I may be on /tg/ too much.

>>43068811
The "hide in plain sight" strategy works really well for the Masquerade, honestly.

Don't pretend you aren't vampires. Say you *are*. Just don't do anything particularly noticeable, and people will just think you're weird and avoid you.

And then when you have to do something noticeable, and there are witnesses, no one will ever believe them.

>>43069355
>The Attamskis are the official caretaker of Lenin's Mausoleum.
>Former communist leaders still receive invitations from the Attamskis to "Lenin's winter hunting trip" every year

>>43069372
>addamms family reunion comes around
>everybody gathers round the tv to watch that year's "look at these crazy people" fluff pieces featuring their relatives

>>43064115
>evil but not malicious
the fuck anon? are you drunk or what?

>>43069484
>Sergio Attamskis started as a janitor at Chernobyl nuclear power plant.
>Now he runs the whole operation.

>>43069484
>Most signed by Lenin himself.

>>43070058
still runs.

They have a dacha at chernobil reactor.

>>43071484
Oh, it's quite impossible to get Chernobyl to *stop*... Purpose-built robots have trouble with that radioactive slag heap of a reactor.
The city is mostly fine.
The hospital where they disrobed the firefighters has an intensely radioactive basement.

>>43070058

>Sergio leads the tours of Chernobyl and Pripryat.
>In a day suit.

>>43007760
Anon has a point. kudus on op for making the only good "what alignment is X" thread ever

>>43035562
>fish-malks.
what?

>>43071719
malkavians

>>43071819
oh
then why fish?

>>43071848
Relates to an image in an old WoD book, where a malk is lovingly caressing a carp while his vassal bleeds out behind him. It's a wierd picture that perfectly encapsulates being a "just crazy" vampire.

>>43071848
Because they're fondle-fish-sensually level of crazy, it's in the rulebook.

>>43068996
I think he meant Cossak.

>>43027682
Dexter is lawful evil if anything. His goal is murder, his code is how he justifies it.
Spike may have started off as neutral evil, but as the show went on he went towards chaotic neutral and finally, somewhere equally between CG an NG.

>>42995783
Alignment: Snap Snap

>>43069372
Doesn't work in the age of ubiquitous photo/videography.

>>43078160
Photoshop

>>42997753
She even has the same beam of light across her eyes the movies as lugosi did in dracula.

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>>43066956

"Oh Gomez, I've heard awful things about these foster homes. Abandonment, cruelty, deprivation, imprisonment, physical abuse..."

"My darling, it's so sweet of you to hope, but I'm sure they've been placed with a *sobs* morally upright family."

"Don't say these things, mon cher."

"They might be METHODISTS, Morticia! Methodists! Or worse... Rotarians!"

>The Adong family in China live a very simple life
>They can do that when they have Terracotta manservants.

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>>43066956

"According to this report, Mister Addams, our case worker found a, and I quote, 'entire room filled with implements of torture' in the basement of your, ah, house."

"Manor. And that is a SLANDEROUS LIE. We have at least four rooms dedicated SOLELY to such purposes. Let no man say! That I! Deprive my children of the finer things in life!"

"Darling, don't forget the oubliette!"

"Yes! A fully functional oubliette! You could scream in there for years and never disturb the neighbors. And you say we are NEGLECTFUL."

"

>>43080769
>Their equivilent for thing and/or cousin It, is Genghis Khan's Mustache.

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>>43080855

"Ok, let's sit down and have a little family counseling session! Wednesday, I'm a little concerned about the way you treat Pugsley."

"How so?"

"Well, you seem to be... very rough with him. There's no horseplay allowed in this household."

"I don't know what you mean. I wasn't allowed to pack my riding crop and harness set."

"But you did hit him with a rope the other day."

"We are studying serfdom in Russia. I was showing him the proper use of the knout."

"I'm not sure your social studies teacher would agree with your methods, Wednesday."

"Mrs. Thorsby is a feeble, confused woman who has never know the thrill of revolution or the shackles of oppression. She has taken the past of least resistance her entire life, and it has brought her only sorrow, a husband who spends his weekends with a waitress at the golf course, and three extremely dull cats."

"That's no way to speak about one of your teachers!"

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>>42995874

Bump

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>>43080855
I want to see this as a movie

>>43056125
Well, my grandmother's brother doesn't like being called great-uncle. Perfectly understandable.

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>>43084316
Do you call him Gruncle?

>>43080855
PERFECT!

>>43084493
...no. Usually I refer to him by his first name.

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>>42995783

My first thought was most would fall under Chaotic Neutral or Chaotic Good, but several have the CN and CG aspects with the potential to go full CE at the drop of a hat, so it's a bit hard for me to classify them.

>>42997576
>>43027335

I was a kid when she was a kid in the Adam's family stuff, she probably older actually. I had a bit of a crush on her the way kids do, I got over it as you'd expect. Crush or no crush though, she's a really pretty lady, or I always thought so.

>>43003872

I used to watch this constantly. Looking back most of the girls I thought were pretty or cool as a kid were rather gothy. Probably has something to do with why I still think of really pale skin, black hair and dark eyes as 'beautiful' or 'attractive' characteristics in a Woman even still.

Also women with a bit of a . . . picture related streak.

>>43000407

Oddly fitting. Or maybe not odd at all.

>>43081103
Holy shit my sides just emigrated to the moon.

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>>43080725
>>43080855
>>43081103

>>43027682
Crowley is one of the few good things Supernatural has brought. I like the old bastard.

>>43019669
Al-Adami

Mummies, Jins,ghouls.. Oh yes!

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>>43086080
>Flee to Japan
>Find yourself suddenly facing the Addamoto Clan

I miss Raul Julia.

This thread is too good to die just yet.

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MRW this thread.

So I just looked back briefly.

Could it be that not one person linked the theme song yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6QzbvH-ZNo

>>43013950
It was in the original comics.

>>43086498
>try to go underground by joining a Colombian drug gang.
>they get usurped by the Adahuelas

>>43089050
We posted half the lyrics already

>>43089890
There's a difference between lyrics and true audio pleasure.

>>43052082

My wife and I slightly try to model our relationship on Gomez and morticia. They are in fact the perfect picture of a happy marriage. They are kind, loving supportive and have a passionate attraction to each other. The whips and chains are just all part of the fun!

I think they probably chaotic neutral, they are morally very upstanding but view the world in a totally different way.

Because of this thread I just bought the entire Addams Family collection.

>>43089725
Is there a collection of these anywhere?

>>43091861
You have excellent taste.

>>43080769
I love all the offscreen ocasionally mentioned fellow weirdos.

>>43080769
>Chinese Addams family
>not waited on by jiang shi

>>43032013
A former child actor?
That's a scary possibility.

>>43094269
Seconding for original comics.

>>43097234
I agree.

>>43064198
I like the discourse. I just don't fit in with the shitposter cliques.

>>43080862
Kek

>>43094269
There were books released with compilations of Charles Addams work, including the Addams family. Most of them are long out of print though (the first one came out in 1964), and since they're still a lucrative business any site that tries to host them gets shot down pretty fast.

I'd suggest you try to find a print copy of the books. Due to their age your best bet would probably be a public library.

>>43099951
Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for one then

The Adamses are weird but they aren't evil, they are actually very loving and supportive and the single most functional TV family to date.

Think Adams family values when the serial killer is explaining why they murder and the family are sympathetic and understanding despite the fact they are about to be killed...

They can forgive and understand their own murderer, thats pretty lawful good

>>43101057
heck after she got murdered by the baby she was buried in the family plot as an Addams

>>42998009
I've seen it argued that Morticia and Gomez are just really into BDSM. People who do weird sex shit are still mostly good people.

>>43101167
Liking BDSM doesn't really account for their love of the macabre, you can have one without the other. But they probably loved both.

....huh, just had a thought, were the Addams the first TV goths?

There are two kinds of people in the world: those who liked the Addams Family and those who liked The Munsters.

>>43103275
I don't think they qualify as goths
They're just the nicest monster-family thus side of the Munsters

>>43104945
I like both.

>>43104945
And I watched and loved both.

>>43105083
Munsters always seemed like it was a knock-off trying to cash in on the Addams family's success. Kinda like how Beetleborg was a power rangers knock off. Still enjoyed it. But wasn't as good as the original.