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>>42925777

As mentioned in the last thread, >>42793029
We will start off with refining on and fixing the errors in a suggested timeline.

Reposted here.
http://pastebin.com/VVv9DktF

>>42925777
Best setting trips confirm.

So, let's settle on creation then.

>year 0
>Life is birthed from the egg and holds all domains in his horde

Does he
>create the 4 primals to create the world for him
>primals already present

Also, does he
>create the mortal races as described in timeline postbin
>dragons born of earth, men from tbd
>do we want the third race?

comments
my votes are for
>create the 4 primals to create the world for him
>create the mortal races as described in timeline postbin

My bias is pretty apparent so let's here what others have to say

Also, did Stars, Moon, and Sun exist before or after Life?

>>42926527
>Does he
>>create the 4 primals to create the world for him
>>primals already present
I prefer neither, and the primals emerge from humanity after they slay Life

As for humanity's origin
>create the mortal races as described in timeline postbin

>>42926571
They existed, but were part of his horde, then later became gods in and of themselves after he died.

>>42925897
>http://pastebin.com/VVv9DktF
I feel like these events should be taking place over the course of centuries, rather than less than a decade.

>>42926668
Those are God years~ Each "year" could be like a millennium for all we know.

i'll change it to Age, to make it less confusing.

>>42926527
Life and the Primals remind me of the Greek Titans, who the gods fought againt and deposed. Maybe a timeline that goes somethign like this:
>Life comes into existance, claims dominion over the world
>He creates the Primals out of the elements to help him shape the world to his liking
>However, the Primals are ultimately very simple beings, so Life creates the first gods in order to gain more intelligent servants who can improvise and create new things
>Eventually the gods rebel againt Life, slaying him and claiming dominion over the world
>Upon his death, Life curses them so they can't physically exist in the world under their own power and require worshippers of their own or their powers will fade
>Gods create the first mortals so that they can have worshippers

>>42926756
>>He creates the Primals out of the elements to help him shape the world to his liking
>>However, the Primals are ultimately very simple beings, so Life creates the first gods in order to gain more intelligent servants who can improvise and create new things
Can someone please answer me when and why we went from humans stealing domains from life after he died to Life gifting domains to them? Because I MUCH preferred the previous version, and if people are dead set on this new course I really have no more interest in contributing.

>>42926756
I don't know about this. I like the idea of the first men living without death getting ambitious and stealing their powers from Life.

What about if when Life hatched from the egg, there were many elemental forces around him. Not the 4 as we know them just forces. They were not alive simply there. Life used his primary domain to breathe onto them and thus created the primals who were still fully part of his hoard but under his control. Then we go with them being numskulls who did not reach full power until Life became Death.

>>42926802
No, I agree with precedent.

>>42926835
>What about if when Life hatched from the egg, there were many elemental forces around him. Not the 4 as we know them just forces. They were not alive simply there. Life used his primary domain to breathe onto them and thus created the primals who were still fully part of his hoard but under his control. Then we go with them being numskulls who did not reach full power until Life became Death.
That sounds good.
So we know how the primals got there power, by claiming parts of Life's hoard, but how did the newer gods get theirs?

>>42926947
The primals got powers that matched them, The other godlings got theirs from whatever was left. I figure.

>>42927000
>>42926947
I was always in favor of a group of men and women banded together, studied Life, trained, and crafted a mighty weapon that could harm him and killed him then claimed their domains from his hoard. Makes for an awesome creation myth.

The interesting question this also allows us to explore is if they meant to kill him? Death had not existed before this so they couldn't have known what would happen. Perhaps the weapon was merely to physcially displace him while they took for themselves and just accidentily killed him.

>>42927053
But if the gods are the ones who killed Life, what does that make the primals?

>>42927083
And by that I mean, I thought the Primals held power after Life but but before the Civilized Gods. But if the Civilized Gods killed Life, there isn't any room for that to have happened.

>>42927083
Before Death, Primals were basically golems. Mindless and task oriented. Made from a domain, but not in possession of it. When Life Died, men tried to take these domains as well but they were too much for them. Thus the primals were the only beings strong enough to pick them up.

>>42927119
See >>42927110, I clarified what I meant.

>>42927110
Primals held domains far more powerful than what the gods held. Allowing them to rule Origin for a long time. Not having access to all the abstract domains that Life did, they did not make for great rulers and were tyrants. Thusly the gods rebel.

>>42926947
>>42927053
That's pretty good.

>>42927141
Could be that the original gods weren't by themselves powerful enough to defeat the Primals (although if that was the case, how dd they slay Life?), and only after they got more power through worship of the mortal humans by introducing civilisation to them did they become powerful enough to depose the Primals.

>>42927348
Life didn't see it coming. Death had never existed therefore was not part of his hoard. It is the only thing that can destroy Life. After that, the primals knew to be on guard and how to use it.

>>42927348
>>42927383
>>42927141

Yeah, The Primal gods had the nature domains, and the other gods got left with the rest. As civilizatoin grew, nature domains weakened and the other domains strenghtened. Making them roughly equals at a point.

As for the actual deed of killing Life, The facts are lost to time. But the techinque used had to be gleened from Life himself.

>>42927485
We should get some more art for this setting, it'd help. I'll post some after I finish working out.

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Fire, the Breath of Life

The third primal to be created by Life after his hatching. Whereas Earth gave him place to stand and water gave him that to soothe and shape, Fire existed to change. Change darkness to light. Change Earth to molten rivers and water to steam.

In the beginning, fire was a mild and well-mannered servitor providing light, warmth or change to any who came seeking it. He found a special companion in the dragons who we're very cold in flying so high up in Air's sky. So, he decided to give them his gift thinking it was only fitting since he was the breath of the first dragon. Life was pleased with Fire and commanded him to provide his flame wherever it was needed so that Life would not be troubled to leave his hoard.

Once Life became Death however, Fire learned. He understood death and he saw many domains which his creator had hidden from him. Fire learned to burn. He no longer saw all that Life and his brethren had created as something that needed his service but as tinder for his growing hunger. He soon began to run rampant and enslaved many mortals to act as his torch carriers spreading his flame throughout the land. he marked each with a great burn. He cut a great swath in the wherever there is now a large forest and made his kingdom among the ashes.

When the gods rebelled and defeated the primals ushering the age of civilization. Fire was never truly defeated as Water was. He fled far to the south where he took up residence inside the corpse of his brother Earth and smolders to this day as a huge volcano. Many men and women have sought to take the domains currently held by Fire, but alas they ahve only been burned.

A bit off topic but I think that Elves should be born from common flesh shaping procedures becoming genetic.

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Water, the Blood of Life

The second primal to be created by Life after his hatching. When Life began to walk the world that Earth, had formed for him he came upon a sharp protusion which cut him. His blood poured out onto the land and using the elemental energy about him he made his blood soothing and cool.

In the beginning, water was a still and loving being. She soothed the skin of those who bathed in her, slaked the thirst of those who kissed her, and ran gently to all those in need. Life was pleased that now wherever he might go in his world he could find respite so long as he called Water's name.

Once life became Death however, Water adopted an almost bipolar personality. She knew that water gave life but also that it took. When she flowed over the hoard of domains that previously held by Life, she became both overbearingly caring and overwhelmingly cruel. She made the seas, lakes, and rivers into harsh places and demanded that any who took of her must remain with her. She forced thousands into maritime life and hoarded men jealously against the other primals. Just as quickly as she would provide a ship with salt-clean water would she drown them and decide they would be better off in her depths forever.

When the gods rebelled and defeated the primals ushering in the age of civilization, Water was not only defeated but humiliated. She was the percieved to be the weakest of the primals and targetted first by the new mortal men and gods. Upon her defeat, her divinity was divided into the new godesses Rivers and Lakes and the god Seas. She would have been wholly consumed had it not been for her youngest brother Air. She fled to him and now survives as Rain. Mostly she is still gentle and falls to the earth to continue her original mission of providing respite and sustenance to mortals. Yet, every so often she remembers her defeat and screams her agony as Storm.

>>42929449
Go for it whip us some fluff.

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>>42929610
Earth, Firstborn of Life

The first primal to be created by Life after his hatching. Life stretched out on the remnants of his egg and yaned into the swirling chaos around him. At first, this was ok, but soon bored him. He wished to have more. He reached out into the chaos and using the power of his domains he crafted the second being, Earth. Earth was large and strong. Life set her to the task of making something for him to move about on.

In the beginning, Earth was a quiet and slow being. She set out methodically on her task and created a huge sphere. Some areas she made high, some low. Some areas she made jagged, some flat. Some materials she made soft, some hard. Life napped lazily while Earth took the remnants of the egg and energy from the cosmos to form the planet. When she was finished, Life was pleased and began to explore.

Once Life became Death, Earth simply became angry. She hated those who killed the patron of all her hard work. When she recieved the entirety of her domain she began to stomp and separated the great plateau she had created into many separate continents while Water poured visciously between them claiming all those swept in the deluge as her own. All of the fruits of Earth's labours had been for Life; these mortals were just an afterthought to the expanse. She decided that if they wanted to rule the world then they should have to shape it. She enslaved all she found and set them to mindlessly mining and reshaping the land. An untold number died under her yoke but none dared complain before the might of Earth.

When the gods rebelled and defeated the primals ushering in the age of civilization, Earth too fell before the anger of those she had once repressed. Seas, Rivers, and Lakes realized that while Earth was strong and hard, water could crack and weaken her. Along with an army armed with picks, the three gods smote her again and again until she was no more.

>>42929610
Sadly im on mobile for the next 4 hours. Not really conducive to lore weaving.

I will say that your doing great! While im more interested in the society of omarase than its pantheon and creation myth. This is easily the best around.

>>42929776
The gods and men feared any mortal who could hold the domain of all the lands of Origin. They also knew that to kill her would be demise for all with no planet to house them. Instead they beat her cruelly for years until she was in the absolute silence of submission. As they did this, several mortals learned her secrets. They became the gods Forge and insert gods and goddesses related to this area here . Even though she is almsot completely silent, every so often she heaves a sob for the death of Life and causes a mighty earthquake.

I'll do Air tomorrow unless someone else would like to.

>>42929962
Your stuff is great! However I think we will need to iject some happiness into the rest of the setting. Its really morbid right now. Not that its bad or anything, but I think it should have enough of every thing. Even the light or even lovey dovy stuff.

Too much darkness and you can't see anything.

Any ideas for a time god? Seems to be one in more or less every pantheon.

>>42930056
I guess I could write more about Forge's love for Beauty later..Although she never really retunrs it more than platonically. He's ok with it though as long as she smiles.

>>42930102
Actually, no definitely something needed. I was also thinking Fate would make a good god. Read some of whats already here. We got a lot in.

>>42930102
I think a god of time is a step too far. As well as fate.

I would even suggest that we have enough gods now. And weve set enough of a precedent that if a gm needs a new god he can easily make one.

>>42929449
I like this and would write on it my self however I think We're taking the same classes cause im stuck on mobile.

I think we should do iconic Npcs. The first thread is toast.

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>Suffering. God of War, Cruelty, Failure, Will, and Freedom

Suffering is reviled in Omarase, he is the bringer of anguish, the destroyer of beauty, and is representative of all that is wrong with humanity. His few followers however, see him differently. He represents the hardships of mortal life, the reality of an unfair and uncaring world, and the drive that keeps all human lives constantly grinding forward. He represents the dichotomy of the mortal condition. The urge to be free, and the need to rule over others. He represents perseverance, but also the ugly adversity that one must persevere against. He is fickle, brutal, and honest.

A harsh and unfair god, Suffering cares not for the fates of his followers. He grants them powers when they benefit him, if his followers are weak but true to his morals he will let them fall, but if they are strong and wilful he will extend his hand. One must take in order to receive, that is the mantra of Suffering. One must endure so that they may rest, this is his word. There are no handouts for the followers of Suffering, non who are his chosen. Yet, there are also none who would be turned away. Any can receive his aid should they be worthy of it.

Suffering represents how horrible mortals can be to one and other, he is the patron of mercenaries, highwaymen, and torturers. His worshippers are not found in churches or temples, but on battlefields, in prisons, and in the rugged wilderness where one must struggle to survive every day. Brutal and utilitarian, Suffering and his followers care not for adornments, in fact, they feel quite averse to them. Those who follow the way of Suffering partake in ritual scarification, branding, and piercing in hopes to dull their sense of pain, uncaring for the aesthetic toll.

Suffering is made, primarily, up of Gods that Beauty did not care to subsume during her ascent. His domains are Bloodshed, Cruelty, Failure, Pestilence, Utility, Will, Freedom, and the oft forgotten Hope.

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>>42931262
Actually, of Mohrbacher's art this might be a better representation.

>>42931349
I remember when we jokingly said that beauty was the god of suffering.

>>42931381
I was just trying to make something that was basically the antithesis of Beauty.

Ugly, uncaring, represents everything bad humanity does, but is also free and leaves humanity largely to it's own devices.

Feel free to reject it, I was just spitballing a random idea I felt I wanted to get out.

>>42931435
Oh no I love it. I personally would have suffering be made out of LEFTOVERS of gods she absorbed.

Also it gives us some one to represent the shatterlands.

>>42931491
That might actually make more sense, the bits she didn't want so threw away coalesced into something that is totally against everything she stands for. He's imperfect, made of celestial garbage, and directs humanity to be divisive.

He would make sense in the Shatterlands, maybe he has cults cropping up wherever Beauty rampaged. The suffering she left in her wake.

>>42931491
Goddess of beauty. Tablemanners aren't part of her portfolio. Beauty confirmed to be a messy eater.

>>42931491
>>42931574
Drawing on this, I would imagine that the shard of a devoured God would still have godlike powers when it comes to shaping the land around them, but wouldn't be the most sane beings to inhabit the world. So the Shattered Lands would have erratic weather patterns and geographical features, making it a hazard to navigate.

And as a tentative idea, maybe this could be where Beauty traps things she would rather not have to deal with? The place would be ripe for adventuring plothooks and including dungeons that have Godshards trapped inside, or artifacts of the defeated and devoured would make it a place of rumor and legend in the mainland.

>>42931810
That sounds awesome and we should start thinking a bit more about adventure plothooks.

Plus we've got evidence by the Primal gods that domains can be subdivided. I imagine that you could theoretically subdivide domains ad-nausim. Like the Domain of Language could theoretically be subdivided untill you had a god of Sarcasm, who is SUCH a joy to be around.

These Godshards might contain these Hyper-divided domains.

>>42932292
>I imagine that you could theoretically subdivide domains ad-nausim. Like the Domain of Language could theoretically be subdivided untill you had a god of Sarcasm, who is SUCH a joy to be around.

Well, this brings up the interesting idea of what Beauty's subdomains look like. Maybe, hidden within these shattered lands where the broken, unused shards of the Shattered Pantheon lay there's a piece of Beauty she would rather the world forget?

I think a lot of plot hooks should have a way to approach them from either the view of a follower of Beauty and her pantheon, and from that of a follower of the Shattered Pantheon (if that name sticks): Basically, you could be going into the Shattered lands to find a weapon of one of Beauty's enemies that is now vitally important in defeating some foe, or you could be working to help one of the Shards become more powerful in an effort to either come back into the world or just stay alive

>>42931349
This artwork is really great, the surreal take on the gods is a theme I think we should keep.

Also bump

>>42931574
>>42931491
>>42931810
>>42932292
It also makes sense to give him greater power than just one god.

>>42936116
Give who?

>>42936128
Suffering, or is it going to be a pantheon. They could coalesce into one being.

>>42936168
Well, there could the whole Shattered Islands populated by tiny godlets that were minor aspects of deities that Beauty consumed, with Suffering being a coalescence of discarded parts of the actual gods themselves.

So he'd be a kind of overbeing for the whole Shattered Islands, but it would still be populated by smaller god-beings.

>>42936186
Sounds good if that's what people like. I'm going to come up with a hero.

>>42936206

And later finish up Air before returning to the timeline.

>>42936168
He's parts of a god though, the parts Beauty didn't want, she took all the good bits

>>42936234
"Good" bits.

He's parts of enough gods that he adds up to about 1.3-1.5 gods.

>>42936421
Not to mention his residual strength from inheriting a new domain making him stronger.

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Boom behold the hero Allora the Grand. First archmage and wizard. the story takes place very soon after the War of the Primals. I took some liberty with introducing fluff for how magic works as well as naming a few places we can add to the map later. There are also other heroes mentioned in the story so anyone who likes can make their stories as well. I tried to fashion it as an oral tale. Not everything in it is fact and much is forgotten, but this is the tale as every child knows it. Here it is.

Allora’s Tale

The Reign of Not-Eternal Life was over
The Primal tyrants were subdued
For the first time, it was men who ruled the world
For the first time, all were free

The gods in their wisdom decided to share amongst the mortals
Share of their Domains and their powers
For some this produced a wonderful gift
The gift of Magic

Us mortals, so young
Knew naught how to control such power
Which imposed will on the world
In the fashion of our gods

Many, in those times
Were those who abused the power
Or secluded themselves to commune with it
But only five attempted to master it

There was Jow’ba the Strong
Kiith the Swift
Lestillya the Wise
And Jah’ka the Shadow

Yet these are stories for another time
Magnificent are they
But this is the tale of their leader
Allora the Grand

Allora was born after the wars
Not tall was she
Nor fair, Nor strong
Born was she with a sense of wonder

All around her did men and women bicker over worship
Strength overcomes all!
No, Justice prevails!
Why follow any but Lust?!

>>42937034
Only Allora saw the merits of all Domains
Only Allora saw that it was no one thing that controlled all
But a mingling of all
The Conversation of Magic

A great racket was raised one day
Those who valued Strength had tried to take
While those of Justice had stopped them
Blows were had and knives were pulled

Allora did step in
She called upon Love
She called upon Apathy
With a wave of her hands the villagers embraced

A great famine was at hand
Allora woke Sun and pleaded
So too did she call upon Rain and Fertility
With a wave of her hands the fields bloomed

A great Beast was stalking
Allora mustered Strength
She tamed Fire and Hunt
With a wave of her hands the Beast was destroyed

Allora had always done good
But seeing her awesome power destroy the beast
The villagers were afraid
And sent Allora away

So Allora met Jow’ba
She saw he was strong and could learn
She beat him in contest of sport
And so he followed

So Allora met Kiith
She saw he was swift and could learn
She beat him in a race
And so he followed

So Allora met Lestillya
She saw she was wise and could learn
Allora need not contest
Lestillya was wise and followed

Finally Allora saw Jah’ka
She was the only one to see ever see him
Jah’ka was happy for companions
And so he followed

The band travelled, played, and worked great wonders
Each showing the others what they knew Magic
The journeyed far and came upon Mountain Fair
Here they decided to stop and learn all there was to know

Yet their happiness and openness was theirs alone
For on darker mountaintops did an old jealousy burn
The dragons stirred and looked down upon the lesser mortals
And they knew hatred in their hearts

Why had they been punished for Life’s death
Why did they have to give of their hoard to keep Death away
Why did they enjoy none of the Domains
Why didn’t they rule

>>42937038
So too did the dragons know magic
Life and the Primals had taught it to them long, long ago
They rallied a great force and rained death upon all the land
Their father was pleased and demanded naught of their hoards

The gods wished to help their followers
But the Dragon’s Pull was strong and after long war with the Primals
They were weak and feared the long descent
The young ones would have to fend for themselves this time

Allora and her friends were in bliss
Ignorant of all the suffering
Until Fire burned so bright
He could be seen even on Mounatin Fair, almost awake

The first true mages descended from their abode
And were struck with horror
Each mustered great and terrible Magic
To cast down the Second Children

Jow’ba pummeled the great drake Hess’loura
Kiith tricked a great flight into Earth’s Teeth
Lestillya lulled Juul the Crawler to sleep forever
Jah’ka made many dragons disappear

But Fire burned so great
Stoked as he was by the Dragon King
Whose name has been lost
And for good reason


Allora flew across the land and saved many
She put out the fires and healed the burned
She set her eyes south
On the Maw of Fire

Here she did great battle
She smote the Dragon King
Conversing with every god in turn
But the King was strong and knew the Domains as well

He smote Allora a mighty blow
And down she fell
The Dragon King Approached
And laughed as victory neared

But he did not know
That Allora was grand
And could not be defeated
Not by the likes of him

She reached out into the world
And those in charge of the world reached back
In that moment she was Life reborn
And she held all the Domains

With a wave of her hands the Dragon King perished
With a poof of her breath Fire cooled
With a blink of her eyes all the lands were healed
And with a shutter she passed away

>>42937050
With their King defeated the dragons sulked back to their mountains
To nurse their hate and pay of their hoards
Kiith took the mages as fast he could
To that pitiful volcano

There they found Allora
Encased in beautiful crystal
A tear of Justice
And heard the booming voice of Merriment tell the tale

Of a battle most epic
Of a girl neither tall, nor fair, nor strong
Of Life reborn
The Tale of Allora the Grand

>>42931491
>>42931574
That makes sense. Even if she took the domains of the gods she defeated for her own, Beauty is still first and foremost the goddess of, well, beauty. I doubt she would (or even could) take domains that would contradict her nature. So she'd just absord the parts of the other gods' domains that didn't contradict with her domain of beauty, and cast off all the pieces that did. Those pieces might then coalescend into a new god that is everything Beauty is not.

>>42931574
Reminds me of how in Elder Scrolls the Daedric Prince Boethiah ate Trinimac, the elven warrior god, and shat him out as Malacanth, the Daedric Prince of outcasts and curses (although this apparently isn't literally what happened, but rather figurative, Malacanth being the refuse left after Boethiah destroyed Trinimac), which also turned his followers into orcs.

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Air, the Whim of Life

The final Primal to be created by Life after his Hatching. Life walked the Earth and swam through the Water. He saw change in Fire and so too did he change his view. Instead of looking forward, for he looked up. He saw a great expanse of empty space swirling with the last pit of elemental energy. In the spur of the moment, he ordered the energy spread the first wings and flew through Air.

In the beginning, Air was a lofty and mischievious being. When he was alone with his siblings and Life, he raised the great dragon high, high into the air then low, low near the ground eliciting many great bellows of laughter from his creator. When the races were sprouted, he created clouds and made them into whimsical shapes. He carried stray and whispered ears to the ears of many whether it be the whisper of a lover a world away or an insult meant to be muttered unter breath. He both delighted and pranked the earliest denizens of Origin. Life was pleased for with his final ordering of the elemental forces his world was stable, safe, dynamic, and entertaining.

Once Life became Death, Air went from a prankster to a tormentor. Mortals were not things to be entertained, but toys to play with. When he recieved the entirety of his Domain, Air relished in the fact that he was everywhere there were bugs who breathed. He enlsaved none, but took frequent joy in blowing away the meager hovels mortals tried to shelter in, sending huge tornadoes into Fire's domain and spreading the flames, and causing Water's seas to roil and generate huge tidal waves. An all too common sight for the earliest men was a friend goen missing for many days only to be found screaming as they fell froma great height in front of you seemingly out of nowhere.

When the gods rebelled and defeated the Primals, Air recoiled in fear at the anger of his former victims. Luckily, for him his Domain was far beyond the reaching hands of any mortal.

>>42937484
Air receded into the heavens and was left unscathed. He took pity on his sister Water and allowed her to live with him as Rain and Storm. To ensure that humanity never again attacked him, he made a pact with the dragons that he would lift them up and give them sactuary in the sky so long as they never betrayed him. Air never again attempted to play his tricks upon the mortals for he hears the sobs of Rain wherever she goes and fears the groundlings greatly.

>>42931594
>>42937342
I wonder, what does one god consuming the other involve, anyway? It's probably one of those things that can be kept vaque, but how would the people in-universe descipt it? Beauty defeating and consuming other deities to gain their portfolios is a big part of the mythology, so it'd be bound to come up.

>>42937855
Most depictions would probably just be of Beauty defeating the god in question. If someone was to depict what happened afterword it would be basically guesswork on the part of the artist. Some artists would have Beauty actually eating the defeated god, others would show the defeated god shrinking and Beauty growing. Everyone would have their own interpretation of how it works, though some would be more popular than others.

>>42937921
this basically. it all depends on how violent and/or corrupt they see beauty. Is she merciful? and merely merges with the spirit of the fallen? or is she she vengeful? swallowing her foe whole body and soul? or is she hateful and demonic, Tearing bloody chunks and glutting herself on their still living body until fully consumed?

>>42937986
I would assume the worshippers of the gods that oppose her, or of the gods she defeated would favour a more violent description in order to vilify her, while her own worshippers would probably go with descipting her draining the other gods' power or eating them in amnanner that doesn't involve blood and guts (although some mor emilitant worshippers might favour a more violent desciption).
If we go with the idea of Suffering and the other shattered gods, the process leaves behind some kind of leftovers, but whether that would be the husk of the god drained of its power, the bits and pieces she didn't consume, or the "indigestible" parts coul vary with intrepertion.
The last one would provide a good reason for he rfollowers to descipt Beauty eating the falled gods: saying "your god is literally shit" would be a pretty good way do denounce the worship of Suffering (that's also why in TES Boethiah is descipted as eating and shitting out Trinimac/Malacanth, despite him/her saying that's not an accurate desciption of the events).

>>42937034
>>42937038
>>42937050
>>42937084

This is definitely how i picture Sanctioned Mages working. Theurgists that augment their powers with favors from the god's domains. They probably have a higher upper power limit than regular mages, but its far more straining to perform. As you are channeling divine power through a vessel that was not designed to channel divine power.

>>42930056
This stuff is pretty much the setting equivalent of the Titanomachy, so it's hardly suprising it's dark.
Although seeing how we've got this part of the backstory down pretty well down now, so we should work on other parts of the timeline, and on various other legends and cultures.

>>42938157
Glad you like it. Later, I'm going to work on making up legend's for early dragon culture then modern dragons.

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>>42925777
Void - Crafter of Chaos, Visionary of Probability

Where there is creation there has to be destruction. Conflict drives change, change drives progress. These are the simple tennents of Void, the crafter of Chaos. Where he and his followers walk, there follows ruin and destruction, yet none of it is truly permanent. In the eyes of Void everything is in a constant flux, the odds ever shifting, the outcome always uncertain.

Void himself has no true form, instead he changes constantly, driven equally by improbability as by insanity. Not even Voids gender is certain, thus all depictions of Void show him (or her), as an androgynous, vaguely humanoid figure.

There is no chruch of the Void per se, as the very concept of organised worship goes against Voids very nature. Instead, believers pray to him when they need a bit of luck, or beg him to make the impossible happen.

It is imperative to note that Void was not part of the Dragons nor does he have direct interesst in Beauty's (in his view) petty squabble with the other deities and instead is much more focused on the universe itself, driving it towards the ultimate ending.

>>42940276
Props on the anti spiral. The question is is Void angry at Life for ordering the initial chaos? Did Void give form to Life's Egg? Are these questions even worth answering?

>>42940917
>>42940276

The way i see it, Void is the janitor. He keeps things running, and when the party is eventually over he cleans up the mess.

>>42940917
Probably not, after all, the ordering only leads to new forms of uncertainity, change and conflict emerging. And it's ultimately fleeting anyway. One day entropy will win, althouh ironically at that point there will be no more change and conflict.

>>42940276
One day all matter freezes,
Void will claim as its own
every single particle and
Entropy will wipe the mirror
clean of photons,
of memories and recordings
Space is an empty mirror
Time; endless

>>42941543
Chant for his cultists?

>>42941591
Actually, lyrics from a CMX song translated to English (it's from a pretty good album, which I consider it one of those "unoffical 40k" things slong with Event Horizon), but close enough.

Alright boys, I have to go for now but don't let the thread die. If we can't get much more interest in it though, lets get four or five fa/tg/uys in a chatroom and hammer this out this setting would make a dope campaign and has a lot of potential.

>>42941892
I would prefer you stay here to hammer it out, can't lurk as good otherwise

>>42941892
>>42941905

Don't worry, i doubt this thread will die any time soon. Last one lasted a whole 3 days.

In any case, I think we have a good grasp on on the cosmology. The timeline that was done up can be easily mended.

I think what could be focused on now is expanding the bestiary. We've done Trolls, and the fiends that Forge made have been mentioned. Golemae are around though they're probably beholden to their creators. Dragons are the mortal children of death, collecting wealth to stave of their father's fury. Beastfolk are Hunter's children, though half are more animal than person, and can be a danger to civilized folk.

A land rife with magic as this surely has more beasties. Even if its just twelve breeds of Owlbear.

>>42942342
>>42929449
Elves were born of Mages who go through extreme flesh shaping on the regular. They get so flooded with magic that it changes their genes, causes their kids to have their aging process lengthened by a factor of four, and have pointy ears and naturally lithe bodies.

A sure fire way to pop out Elvish babies is if a mage goes through the lengthy flesh shaping procedure of becoming a fully functional Hermaphrodite.

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>>42943447
>and naturally lithe bodies.
Given Omarase's beauty standards, I'm pretty sure we're talking more of the pic related style of elves than the typical Tolkien one.

>>42941147
The way I see it, he just quietly sits around, hardly interfering unless it amuses him. When the end times come and entropy has increased to his max, he can have his 15 minutes of fame before it all resets and goes back to perfect order and he can mess around with it again.

Void isn't so much an aspect, as a necessity. It's a shadow/light thing. Order cannot exist without chaos and vice versa.

>>42943531
They can become tiddy monsters yes, though most of them start out as skinny minnys, however since this is Omarase, they'll probably get curves added by a flesh shaper when they hit biologically 16.

Seeing as all Elves have natural magical talent it'd be fairly easy to get whatever body they wanted.

>>42943646
If the point of Elves is that their parents' genetics have been influenced by flesh shaping, then it makes more sense for them to be beefcake and cheesecake than waifs and traps.

>>42943688
They probably would end up like beefcakes (Bruce Lee beefcakes, not AHnold beefcakes) cheesecakes... if they actually waited out their lengthy maturity phase. 32 years of puberty will make you rather impatient.

>>42943688
>>42943765

This is of course going off of >>42943447 the times 4 thing. If the average person i Omarase lives to see... lets say 80 for an easy number. The average lifespan for an elf is 320.

>>42943447
>>42943531
Have elves be the most devout of Beauty's worshipers, ie, some of the most monstrous beings alive, personification of the phrase "A wolf in sheep's clothing."

>>42943447
I bet this procedure is more common than people think.

>>42941147
The way I see it, he just quietly sits around, hardly interfering unless it amuses him. When the end times come and entropy has increased to his max, he can have his 15 minutes of fame before it all resets and goes back to perfect order and he can mess around with it again.

Void isn't so much an aspect, as a necessity. It's a shadow/light thing. Order cannot exist without chaos and vice versa.

>>42943806
Personally i think that, while beauty really likes elves, i don't think she should have a hand in their creation. The gods have the credit of nearly everything else in the setting that even halfway decent. Let mortals have this one.

>>42944011
>>42943562

Think 4chan is screwing up for you Mate.

>>42943806
>Have elves be the most devout of Beauty's worshipers,
I'm fine with this
>ie, some of the most monstrous beings alive, personification of the phrase "A wolf in sheep's clothing."
This not so much. We've already got an evil Beauty extremist cult in The Coven of Plentiful Fruit, no need for another. It's perfectly fine for them to be really devout worshipers of her and not be evil.

>>42944052
The Coven isnt evil, they just aren't liked.

>>42944077
They might not be evil, but as the source of trolls anyone running this setting is going to use them as an antagonist.

>>42944030
>>42943447
I personally like this version to rather than >>42943806 , However that's not to say the two cannot co-relate.

Beauty's most devout followers often get Multiple extreme flesh shaping procedures done in their lives. This has a side effect of elf children.

Its a tenancy for devotion to produce elves but not a direct result.

>>42944052
>>42944077
I could see there being an extremist Beuty cult similar to Lorwyn elves in MtG. Anything that isn't beautiful is an affront to the goddess and must be destroyed. And they have a very narrow standard of beauty (basically, "look exactly like we do"). The goverment of Omorase would probably consider them dangerous extremists, although might consider them useful to keep around if their aggression is mostly directed on crusades againt the nation's enemies.

>>42944052
I like the idea, though I'd prefer them to not be evil, more predatory if you get my meaning

>>42944179
Bow chick wow wow....

>>42944167
Can always have more room for cults and secret societies.

>>42944129
Seeing as i fully intended them to be playable i don't see why they would.

>>42944167
>And they have a very narrow standard of beauty (basically, "look exactly like we do"). The goverment of Omorase would probably consider them dangerous extremists
From what I gather, most of Omorase has a very similar standard of beauty, and if elves are spawned from magic mutating peoples genes to conform to that, they would fall into that category.

>>42944214
>Seeing as i fully intended them to be playable i don't see why they would.
I don't see why anyone would play one, what with the constant threat of turning into an inhuman troll looming over them. Seems like a strictly NPC faction to me.

>>42944241
Well i think there are different tiers of beauty standards here.

The Noblilty and Rich are engaged in a constant state of one-up-manship and have a fluid and changing sense of beauty.

The middle class is more static, fair features, lack of blemishes, curvy. There is variance to go with personal taste.

Lower class is probalby the most accepting. Do you bathe regularly? dress your hair? Decent face and teeth? Gosh darn it they're a keeper!

Mages... They cater to exotic and frankly deviant tastes. Eccentrisity is the name of the game for them. Inhuman yet beautiful features are common.

>>42944301
Think of like playing a Psyker. Useful but there is risk. And untill you start eating human flesh and your skin turns purple you can rehabilitate yourself.

>>42944052
>We've already got an evil Beauty extremist cult in The Coven of Plentiful Fruit
I wouldn't consider the coven to really be an extremist Beauty cult. They're more of a group of mages that practice a specific form of fleshcrafting (one that focuses on augmenting their own bodies and using the energy stored in their bodies as fuel for their magic). Since flescrafting is commonly practiced in Omarase, it makes sense that they're most active there, and since Omarasians worship Beauty, they worship her as well, but other than that there isn't any particular connection between the two.

>>42944301
It's not quite clear how likely them turning into a troll is. I think the implication is that most people don't know the connection between them and the trolls, so it's not so common that they can't keep it a secret. It's something that can happen if they become addicted to their powers, though, but I would imagine they train themselves to avoid such things from happening. Of course, trolls are nasty enough that even if it's very rare for one to become a troll, the danger would be taken very seriously.

>>42944391
>Think of like playing a Psyker.
I've never played 40K so all I know about Psykers is that they're the spellcasters of the setting and if they flub a roll bad things happen.

But the fact that The Coven of Plentiful Fruit KNOWS about the threat of trolls, and goes ahead in their practices, all while keeping it a secret, just makes it so I can't see them as anything but villains.

>>42944214
>Bow chick wow wow....
Not quite what I meant, but probably predatory in that way too

>>42944391
>Well i think there are different tiers of beauty standards here.
Pretty much what I was assuming too

>>42944641
I personally disagree with you but then again the beauty of rpgs is that you can make it whatever the hell you want. If you want The Coven to be antagonistic, By all means you can. Though i suggest that the goal is to get the order to dispand, then focus on cleaning up the mess that is the trolls.

As the Gretchen are going around teaching the corrupted form of the coven's art that is even more corrosive and churns out trolls far more regularly.

>>42944599
Pretty much this. They know that there is danger of someone turning into a troll using these abilities, and they've developed methods to counteract and protect against the process. Specifically Mental training and stimulation.

>>42944167
Now just how fucking beautiful do these guys have to be to think they're the standard everyone else should be held to or die?

>>42944641
The way most 40k RPGs (aside from the first one published, 1st edition Dark Heresy) handle psykers is that if they use their powers carefully there's no risk of bad stuff happening, but the effect of the powers are weaker. If they use their powers normally, there's a chanse of a minor psychic phenomena (like all plants nearby wilting or air growing cold) and a very small chanse (around 1% I think) of major phenomena aka. Bad Things (which range from things like gravity stopping working near the psyker for one round to the psyker being possessed by a greater daemon). If they push their powers to the limit, they get a bonus to their effect but 100% chanse of a minor phenomona and a fairly high chanse of Bad Things. Smart psykers never push their powers unless it's a life or death situation, and even then you probably shouldn't.

Although I don't think the psyker analogy is quite apt here. The coven mages don't risk exploding into trolls whenever they cast a spell, at least as far as I understand how it works.
I imagining the path to becoming a troll is more like jedi falling to the dark side, or a mage turning to necromancy or demon summoning. It's a fast and easy path to power, but will eventually fuck you up and get you killed, so most avoid it even if it is seductive. Some, however, think they can master it or belive they need the extra power regardless of cost.

>>42944970
Yeah the fallen jedi analogy makes more sense than the Psyker analogy. Tsaa Reaga (the coven's art) is the light side. and Tsaa Kothul (Gretchen corrupted arts) are dark side.

>>42944167
I could see that the Extremist Hyper Beautiful faction would be a political party trying to get representation in the Court of Nobles. Seeing themselves as Divinely inspired to uplift everyone to a beautiful nirvana. And are willing to resort to unscrupulous methods to do so. Like assassinating political rivals and replacing them with flesh shaped loyal servants."

>>42944857
>Now just how fucking beautiful do these guys have to be to think they're the standard everyone else should be held to or die?
Not necessarily any more than most people, but very narrow-minded in their standards of beauty.
It's not like the nazis where the shining paragons of humanity, but they still considered themselves to be the "master race" and everybody else subhuman scum.

>>42945764
Dis
>>42945882
and dis, mash them together.

seems to be my go to creation technique.

>>42945882
Yeah, but the Nazi's didn't have a way to make themselves"more human" while this setting has a readily available, if someone time consuming and expensive, way to become more beautiful.
I imagine that all the people in any given social class will look somewhat similar based on what they can afford, and with some variation for personal taste, but the people of this extremist faction will all look EXACTLY the same via flesh shaping.

>>42946037
>if someone time consuming
if someWHAT time consuming

>>42946037
>but the people of this extremist faction will all look EXACTLY the same via flesh shaping.
Well the men will all look alike and the women will all look alike at least, and they will all be exceptionally beautiful, though in what way should be left ambiguous so the DM can fill in the dots based on the groups taste.

>>42946114
GREAT BIG STONKING TITS!For both genders.

>>42946059
>>if someone time consuming
If you go with the "can use others as raw materials to be absorbed in the flesh shaping" idea from a while back it fits

>>42946179
>>42946114
>>42946037

So Ubermench political party Flesh absorbing liches? could work.

I have such a plot hard on right now.

>>42946179
>>42946219
I imagine they make frequent use of The Broken Mirrors talents, and more than a few people are members of both groups.

>>42946254
Most certainly, I'd imagine the Body fuse technique would solely rest with Those who had membership in both groups.

Throwing out. The People's Beauification Front.

>>42946444
>The People's Beauification Front.
That sounds like they want to make people beautiful, rather than killing or absorbing non-beautiful people.
Then again, maybe that was on purpose.

>>42947100
But they ARE making them beautiful! As part of them.

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Do the gods have direct servants in the world?

Like Angels or Demons?

If so, this is totally what Suffering's look like.

>>42948154
>Do the gods have direct servants in the world?
No.
The basic theme of the world is that everything that isn't a god is descended from humans using Flesh Shaping.
We've made a few exceptions so far, like dragons, but the fewer we make the better.

>>42948484
Alright, didn't know that.

Suffering just seemed like a Locust kind of guy.

>>42948484
Flesh shaping and other means besides, but derived from humans none the less.

>>42948056
I really like Selvaria, maybe we could work something of the Valkyria into the setting?

>>42948056
I really like Selvaria, maybe we could work something of the Valkyria into the setting?

I dunno, it might be able to fit in

>>42949305
>>42949334
whoops, ignore double post, my bad

>>42949305
>>42949334
Earlier people were arguing whether elves should be lithe or curvy. Basing them on Valkyria could solve that problem.

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>>42949453
I'm perfectly fine with that.

>>42950682
I'm not familiar with Valkyria, but judging on these pictures i'm seeing i think we're good.

>>42950739
Here's their wiki article
http://valkyria.wikia.com/wiki/Valkyrur
Basically they're a cross between elves and valkyries that are super durable, heal fast, and have lances that shoot huge lasers. They also all have an appearance that can best be described as meeting at the crossroads of lithe and cheesecake.

>>42950924
Well there you go.

I guess it goes without saying that all elves are born mages. Or at least have the capability to perform magic.

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>>42951066
Given how much arguing there was over some of the gods, that was surprisingly painless.

>>42951121
Some things just seem right my friend. Elves are The mutated kids of Flesh Shaping Addicts who are borne natural mages and live 4 times longer than normal.

But this includes Infancy, adolescence, puberty, the whole shebang.

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>>42951161
>Some things just seem right my friend.
Right you are.
Any way, I have stuff to do tomorrow, so I need to get to sleep. But here are some dragons in human form in case someone decides to do something with that, if not well one last thread bump for the night.

Bump before bed

>>42948484
>>42948525
Although I can see the gods blessing particularly favoured mortal servants and altering their appearance to better match the god's aesthetic (Beauty's followers becoming more beautiful, Suffering's becoming ugly and monstrous etc.).

What kinds of player classes would you have in the setting? Given how important the gods are, clerics, paladins and other holy warriors would probably be pretty common (I'd also assume paladins would be more like the DnD 4th edition version, which have to follow the code of their patron deity rather than the code of being lawful good). Standard warriors, rogues and mages would exist as well. But then you also have the various setting-specific classes that have been mentioned; flescrafter mages, the Coven of Plentiful Fruit, those guys who can steal peoples' beauty. Other gods probably have their own specific classes as well, like Suffering would probably have mages who specialise in inflicting pain to disable their enemies. Someone should probably stat out these classes.

>>42955715
Well if it was a conversion for D&D i'd say that most of the faction specific classes would be Prestige classes or, in the case of Pathfinder, Class Archetypes.

The only other system i use regularly would be Savage Worlds. And pretty much anything can be done in that if you fluff it right.

If it get enough support, i could definitely see this becoming a stand alone game with its own system.

>>42955715
>>42955756
Ahh yes, the point where people stop doing fluff and start worrying about crunch, the bane of every /tg/ project.

>>42955888
>>42955715

This said, i dont think we're at the point where we're done with fluff. We've done a lot to be sure. But i'm not sure we've completed the task and need to worry about actual dice rolling just yet.

>>42955907
Are there any particular pieces of fluff that you think we should brainstorm about?

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>>42955503
I feel like fighters having a strong male form and a fast female form would be a thing in this setting.

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>>42956192
Maybe not a common thing, given how difficult flesh shaping is supposed to be, but there would definitely be people who used multiple forms in combat to serve different purposes as the situation changed.

>>42956228
well that's not entirely true.

GOOD flesh shaping is difficult.

>>42956370
Well yeah, but accidentally giving yourself one eye, or making a hand with no fingers on it, or any number of other mistakes, would be a very bad thing to do in combat.

>>42951161
>>42951121
>>42951066
>>42950924
>>42950739
>>42950682
>>42949453
>>42949334

Question about the resolution here:

Is it ALL elves that have Valkyria powers? Or just some?

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>>42956546
All elves are mages.
A lot are more powerful than human mages.
But only the strongest are Valkyria.

I think Suffering's followers should see Beauty as a kind of unwilling mother. They scoff at her because she isn't willing to own up to what she's created and how she's trying to hide the truth of struggle from her people.

Connected to that, I feel that one of Suffering's major goals is for Beauty to publicly admit to being his "Mother" or at least creator.

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>>42948154
>>42948525
>>42954523
I can roll with this.

The Rotted.

Those foolish enough to venture into the Shattered Lands and hardy enough to return tell tales of The Rotted. Huge, ugly, and bruttish the followers of Suffering exist only to spread the dogma of their master.

When Beauty's leftovers slowly began coalescing into the monster god Suffering, not all of their followers turned to Beauty. Many were turned away or choose not to come into the fold. Slowly, they changed into something new.

The Rotted live in eternal pain. They cannot be killed by disease but seem to always be infected by it. Their skin is hard and calloused but mainfully molts near constantly. Their only respite is in their prodigous strength. A gift from their lord so that they might inflict his pain upon the world.

Largely confined to their non-euclidean realm in the Shattered Lands. Every so often one strong enough will rally a band to venture out and pillage as they please. Lone stragglers are also known to wander the land in a state of madness, but the truest terror lies in the warpers. Warpers are the means by which the abominations reproduce. They are slavers who will find the choicest examples of Beauty's followers and drag them screaming back to their home. There they use dark magics and prolonged torture to transform the beautiful into something ugly.

>>42956833
The accursed ones form a dear family. Mother Beauty and Father Suffering. If there was no objuective beauty, then there would be no need for the ugly to suffer.

Valgosh

The greatest predators of Origin. Huge, cunning serpents with a taste for manflesh. While not common, they can be found wherever civilization has not erradicated them. They have no weapons aside from their crushing coils and powerful, toothless jaws. However, their visage is so terrifying the unprepared are usually too stunned to flee.

They are found in three varieties. The 'smaller' grey found in the mountains reaching 4 meters in length by adulthood. The green variety found in jungles and forests reaching 7 meters by adulthood. The more lithe black valgash of the swamp reaching 5 meters in length by adulthood also produce a miasma which slowly leaves their prey dazed and confused questioning how they ever came to such a place and where they are going. It is the great sea valgash that causes all sailors to pray to Seas before departure. Reaching lengths of 20 meters by adulthood though even larger ones have been recorded and slain. These monsters are known to use a hardened point on their tails to make holes in the bottom of vessels to sink ships then take their time gorging on the crews prompting many vessels to plate their underbellies with steal. In these cases crushing the boat via constriction is still an option.

It should be noted that while these beasts are intelligent enough to plan and set traps, they are not intelligent in the human or draconic sense. They have and understand no language. They do not build and only come together to mate and lay a single egg. Some more dastardly mages have been known to keep them as guardians or beasts of war. Despite the valgash's obvious use in warfare, this practice is shunned in Omarase due to the ugliness of the beast.

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>>42957477
Forgot my pic. In addition to hunting humans they have a praticular taste for young dragons fostering a hatred for them that goes deeper than even their hatred for man.

>>42957483
>>42957477
>>42957254

This works for me

It also gives the Dragons a Natural Enemy - something that they would venture out to fight.

A large scale conflict between Dragons and Valgash - a Swarm of Valgash and a Thunder of Dragons meeting - would be on the level of a natural disaster in Omarase

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Rrodash, the Rotting Wyrm

Sometime after the War of the Gods, a group of particularly enterprising warpers set off to offer something truly special to Suffering. They travelled long and far supressing their base desire to destroy every village they found along the way (for the most part). They climbed high into the mountains and there they found Rrodash the Resplendent. A young dragon, Rrodash was particularly beautiful. So beautiful, it is said that Beauty would descend to the mortal plane just to watch him and Death was so pleased with him that he almost decided not to tax his hoard, almost.

The warpers watched Rrodash for many moons learning his comings and goings in secret. They found a small hidden lake where the young dragon enjoyed napping and sunning. When he was sounds asleep, the Rotted descended. They threw cruel, hooked chains over his body and held him down. They clamped a spiked muzzle over his mouth so that none could hear his screams. Finally, to assure that he could never escape, they cut off the poor creature's wing. For a whole year the warpers applied their minstrations. Removing all of his magnificent scales and destroying them in unholy fire so that they might never be seen again. They chanted dark hymns to their god as they worked. So pleased was Suffering that he himself descended to complete the work. He carefully removed all the chains and took the dragon's head in his cold, cold hands. He swivvled it around so that Rrodash could see what he had become right before sealing his eyes forever. Suffering made kings of the warpers and gave them each the cruelest of diseases.

The warpers returned home triumphant and Rrodash simply lay there miserable and defeated. He dug a great burrow deep, deep in the mountains and stayed there for a century hoping to die, but this was not what the Shattered God had in mind. He blessed Rrodash with the long life and bloated his body. He commanded the Rotted to bring him sacrifices to keep him alive.

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Hunters

Little is known of the astral plane. The space between realms is huge and empty yet Void demands change. There are things that lurk in the empty spaces, the hunters. While little is known of their home, next to nothing is known of the beings themselves. They glide and fly throughout their realm on silent winds and every so often find a place where they can enter a plane of existence. They can only subsist here for short times but while manifested they are ravenous.

In the mortal realm, they delight in silently feasting on any breathing creature they find. While in their presence, even the most gifted of mages find their magic beyond reach. Only vorpal blades like the legendary Slash can harm them. The best advice for dealing with such a creature: run, run quickly.

In the realm of the gods, they sneak close to a Domain holder and bask in their energy growing like a tick. Most gods smash them on site before they grow large enough to be a threat, but legend has it Apathy was almost devoured by one and only survived due to Justice happening to pass by.

In the realm of the dead, they show a strange mercy. They are known to grab the wandering skeletons and take them to the realm's edges ending their suffering quickly. They attempt to transport as many skeletons as possible before fading away.

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Mar'thun Seat of the True Dwarves

In the southern mountains of Omarase, a mighty citadel sings its praises to Beauty and Forge, Mar'thun. The capital city of the dwarves was said to have been carved into the mountain by the Father of Dwarves himself. It is here that the 53 True Dwarves rule over their lesser brethren. A hub of industry, it is here that the weapons of Omarase are shaped though its primary export is beautiful statues.

Like their creator, dwarves are obsessed with Beauty and labor day and night in Mar'thun swinging hammers and chiselling stone. The inner sanctum of the city is said to be resplendant. Every centimeter is lovingly carved and detailed. Gold and other prescious metals are mined in the mountains bowels and promptly made into fine jewelry.

In the center of the city is a great palace made of shining pink crystal, Kal-hama. Here the True Dwarves spend their days in leisure. They can be found lazily crafting a masterpiece, basking in heated pools, feasting and drinking, or spending a month admiring themselves in the Room of Many Mirrors. Only the luckiest of dwarves and the richest of Omarasian nobility are allowed inside. Among dwarven culture, it is considered a great honor to be selected as a servant for their rulers.

As a note on dwarves, the True Dwarves are immortal while the normal ones only live slightly longer than humans.

>>42958335
As another side note, much of the city is woefully underpopulated. Dwarves dedicate their lives to crafting and it is not uncommon to meet one who has never been intimate with another. As such they are a dieing people. In more recent times with Omarase expanding so quickly, many humans have moved into the city. Prompting the housing guild to make huge profits in commisions to make living spaces more human-friendly.

>>42958335
As another, another side note; despite the dwarve's worship of Beauty they almost never depict her in their work. To try and depict her in a statue or other work is considered highly arrogant. You are basically saying I am skilled enough to sculpt true beauty. Instead they honor Forge by shaping him as he shaped them.

Dwarves and drinking, let's mix it up a bit. Dwarves do drink but only once a week. The first six days of the week are always spent laboring while the last is a day of rest where everyone just gets smashed to spice up their lives a bit. This is one of the few times dwarves will ever converse about something other than work, spend times with their families, or have a chance to get lucky.

>>42958486
>>42958430
>>42958335

We need some right proppa Elf v Dwarf shenanigans

War of the Beard only War of the Stolen Gem Eye

>>42958520
>We need some right proppa Elf v Dwarf shenanigans
I disagree. Not every setting needs elves and dwarves to hate each other particularly, they can just have the regular amount of antagonism between two races.

>>42958835
>>42958520
I just don't see dwarves ever really warring themselves. I could see them making some great siege engines to please Beauty, but there's little reason for them to step into the combat. Can't please Forge and get a chance at true Dwarfdom unless you're building.

I was thinking about how the first humans managed to slay Life, and thought that since Death didn't exist at the time, maybe they killed him by using a weapon made from the concept of death. A weapon made from the antithesis of his concept would be a pretty good way to slay a deity. It would also explain his transformation to Death after being slain.
Now, where would they get such a weapon, though? Well, since Void was implied to be around even before Life, and is the embodiment of entropy (the force that will cause the heat death of the universe) and chaos, maybe he granted such a weapon to the humans. It would seem like something he would do, as his goal in the mortal realm is to foster change and chaos.

bump

>>42959581
I think Void should definitely be in involved as sort of a Lucifer type character. I had a much more metal version of how they slew Life, but after reading a lot of what I wrote, maybe its a bit too dark.

Only the gods truly remember what it was like during the Reign of Life. Some recall it as a simpler, gentler time. Some say it was a time of great hardship. Others still say it was a great doldrum. The dragons founded their hoards and the primals serviced those who needed them. While the men were left with little purpose. They wandered Life's Earth. Drank Life's Water. Warmed around Life's Fire. Breathed Life's Air. Everything they knew belonged to Life and they could claim nothing.

Most were not bothered by this notion, but there was one tribe on the far end of the land who resented Life. They looked in all directions trying to find something of their own and found nothing. Finally they looked within themselves and here they found Void. Void was gentle and sympathized with their plight. It listened to their woes and calmed their rage.

Void said it knew what it was like to have little of one's own. Void said once all had belonged to it until Life took almost everything away. Everything but Death that is. The men and women shook their heads puzzled at this word. What was Death? Death, it said, was the opposite of Life and their path to self-determination. Void took Death and poured into an urn and sealed it tight. It said that it alone could touch Death and live so they must not open the urn but give it to Life veiled as a gift.

The tribe travelled far until they came to the great hoard of Life. The great dragon greeted them heartily and asked why they had come. The tribesmen nervously told him that they had found something, something new and meant to give it to him as a gift. While Life was a bit suspicious of their manners, he loved gifts and was happy to add it to his hoard. He took the urn and opened it and drank every lasst drop.

>>42960744
When the last of it had been guzzled, Life dropped the urn suddenly weak. 'Cold', he muttered before he fell down and down. The first being to ever to reach the Realm of the Dead.

Alone, he roared his bitterness. A roar that could even be heard by the ones who had betrayed him. 'I was Life and now I have drunk of Death. You who are my children shall share my fate! Everything that lives shall die.'

However, the tribesmen were to busy rifling through the hoard to hear. They found the domain which suited them best and ascended to godhood.

>>42959581
>>42960744
Void reminds me somewhat of Nyarlathotep, both being associated with chaos and the void (Nyarlathotep dwells outside reality in what is sometimes referred as the outer void, and he's he's also known as the Crawling Chaos), having a variable form that's usually associated with darkness in some way, and messing with mortals seemingly for no real purpose aside from causing chaos. I wonder if he's as much of a colossal asshole, though.
In particular there's one Mythos story where Nyarlathotep possesses a guy and turns him into a nuclear physicist so that he can help discover the atom bomb, purely because he wants to see the chaos that will ensue from giving humanity such a powerful weapon.

>>42962493
I could see that. I almost see him more as pic related. He sits outside of everything and just does his thing. Things change naturally and when that begins to stagnate he gives it a little nudge.

Less of a dick though more calm. Let's try whipping up another hero.

I had a thought about Fertility. So she's an ally of beauty, right? I mean, with her own cult and agenda so long as it's ultimately inline with Beauty's..... So why couldn't she siphon off some of the prayers for a 'better' physical figure (hips/bust/etc.) from the ladies?

That answer being babies. Nothing gets you bigger boobs like BABIES, Fertility insists to suddenly pregnant women while they realize they've picked the wrong goddess.

>>42960832
Nice. Are all the gods (aside from Life/Death, Void, Suffering and the Primals) derived from the humans that slew Life, or have there been gods that have come about later? Since gods can be shattered (Water becoming Rain, Rivers and Sea, Suffering existing), it might be possible for a god to willingly split off a piece of themselves to create a "child" embodying a subset of the "parent's" domain.

>>42963008
I'd say there hasn't been a Talos yet though whos to say it couldn'y happen. All the gods are the originals, and I think 2 may have had a child.

I like your idea though if you want to fluff something up by all means. Just be mindful of the gods that already exist.

>>42963000
Beauty probably wouldn't like another god, even an allied/subservient one, stepping in on her toes (depending on her true nature she might just be allied with them because she was more immediate things to deal with).
You pray for them for different reasons. Beauty for becoming more attractive and Fertility for things like increased fertility and easy pregnancy.

>>42963000

Triple naughts declare this to be canon. Ladies beware, Beseaching Beauty when she's busy. You might get what you want, but there's some fine print there.

Decided I'm not up to writing a story right now. Just going to add to the bestiary.

>>42963157
>>42963000
I think that even though she's arguably the most powerful god in the world, she'salso pprobably over worked as hell.

She might take delegation whenever she can.

>>42963077
Didn't have anything in particular in mind, but I was wondering whether there is a set amount of gods in existence and if gods associated with more complex concepts would only appear once civilisation has advanced (if the early humans lived in an effectively stone age society, there might not be a god for, say, mathematics or writing). Or which of the original heroes thought it was great idea to pick Apathy as their domain.
I think it depends on how many gods we actually want, since you can group a lot of the smaller domains under a larger portfolio (like math and writing would fall under the domain of Knowledge).

>>42963121
I'd say think of it more as, Beauty is very busy (Not to mention she created an entire field of thaumaturgy to make you look better so really praying to her for something fleshcrafting can handle is wasting her time and yours.)

So if you get fobbed off to a no-doubt ever enthusiastic Fertility by an annoyed/capricious/vindictive/bored Beauty, caveat emptor.

>>42963255

Basically this, yeah. She's not poaching from Beauty, Beauty's sending business her way.
>>42963308

>>42963255
>>42963157
>>42963327

Fertility has asked Beauty several times to be granted the Lust Domain. Beauty has politely refused because this would no doubt lead to over population.

Also I think Fertility is mostly in charge of relationships, dating and marriages. Lust is about the SEXUAL THRILL! and fueling the passions that lead to dating, as well as... Confessions at the chapel broom closet.

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Behemoths

The fourth creatures to be created by Life, the gentles behemoths were once plentiful in Origin. Reaching a height of 35 meters at adulthood after 2,000 years of life, they are solitary herbivores living in mated pairs occassionally with 1-2 offspring. They come in every color of the rainbow. The trait of color is not heritable and seems random though there have been examples of mixed color, patterened, black, white, and shimmering behemoths.

They have a strong magic aura that promotes plant growth especially fruit. Behemoths are usually found in secluded valleys tending massive gardens. They are more than happy to share the gardens with whatever creatures wish to partake of the feast. They do not tolerate violence except that which is predatory.

Friendly creatures, they enjoy the company of humans and there many stories of villages being founded near a guardian behemoth. Sadly, it was this trust that made it all the easier for Rog the Giant Slayer to travel across the land slaughtering them wherever he found them. Needless to say Hunt was very pleased, but Nature was mortified. It is said that as he and his hunting party werre passing through a large forest, they were beset by every animal within a kilometer range and unltimately eaten. Today, there are less than 3 dozen behemoths in all the land. They are considered wonders of the world and jealously guarded.

>>42963296
Eh, we kind of have a lot of gods as it is. I think we just need to look at the pantheon and make sure we cover all our bases.

As for why someone picked Apathy, she was always a lazy person and becoming the goddess of naps, not giving a fuck, and me-time was a no brainer to someone who truly had not a fuck to give. It probably took them two days to even convince her to make the journey to Life's Hoard, and even then she almost didn't go.

>>42963308
>Not to mention she created an entire field of thaumaturgy to make you look better
I've assumed that flesh crafting wasn't created by Beauty as much as it just being particularly popular among her followers due to them placing such high value on appearance.

Speaking of which, are there other nations in the world? Not like the troll lands or the shatterlands, but other kingdoms worshipping different gods (there are some that didn't get eaten or subjugated by Beauty, like Guile)? Should probably come up with some fluff about them, and their relation to Omarase.

>>42963008
Also, forgot Machinae the Man-Made Goddess. There's a pretty good amount of fluff on her. All I think that's left is to position her creation in the timeline and maybe write a story of how she was created.

>>42963577
Vulcannan, The land to the south, Run by Machinae the mand made goddess. Currenly in a resource war with Omarase.

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>>42963642
Nevermind i found it.

>>42963577
Some of us have been talking about that, but no one has actually done it. I'm just trying to work a lot on the history to give people stuff to work with for that.

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>>42963740
regular map to go with it.

>>42963772
>>42963577

>Willowshem, Nation Above the Trees.
In the lands of Origin, there is a truly massive Redwood forest at the epicenter of the continent. Nature has heavy sway over this lands and has decreed that single tree cut down unjustly is punishable by death. An aspiring baron looked at this land, and Nature's edicts and responded "I can work with this."

So he built a city within the tree tops, Trimming mammoth branches for lumber, drawing water from tree taps, And had alchemist geniuses create the process of Steel Wood. Which allows wood to be forged and shaped like metal.

Nature, at a loss for this careful adaptation to nature, allowed their habitation of the trees.

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>>42963777
Let's make that one large snow covered mountain in southern Omarase Mar'thun.

Ottopii the fourth and last children of Life.
After Life forged the Primals to build his world. He birthed the dragons in his image. When they all flew off in different directions, he created man to keep him company. Next, he created the behemoths to spread beauty across the world.

LIfe was pleased. Everywhere he went he saw life blooming. Yet one day when drinking from the great sea, he heard Water crying quietly. He asked his daughter what the matter and tearfully she told him she was all alone. 'Air has your dragons to play with. Earth gets to fawn over your behemoths. Even Fire has your humans to entertain him but I have nothing.'

Life was dismayed. He could not stand tosee his daughter cry. He slithered down into Water and began to craft a being to end her solitude. After four days and four nights, the ottopii were born.

The ottopii were naturally curious and fast learners. In the depths they built great cathedrals and rows of obelisks to glorify Water and Life.

The ottopii were celebratinga great festival of light shone from their own bioluminescence when Life became Death. The ottopii were so shocked when Water retold the tale that they did not believe her, but they had never left the great sea and knew nothing of humans. So they feared them and thought them to be great beasts.

As Death shouted his curse from the land far, far below. He knew that the ottopii truly had no blame in his demise, but still his curse was absolute. Instead, he granted them the longest of all lifespans - 6,000 years to the second. He has been known to frequesntly overlook the death of a favored ottopii on its first occurrence allowing them to live on as a dreadful krakkan. Thus he is chief of their duetheistic pantheon worshipping the Great Dragon along with Void (some of the few beings that even know of his whispered name).

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>>42964214
The ottopii are isolationist by nature and none but the most studied historians and farseeing maji know of their existence. Ottopii culture is mired in mystery, but a few things are certain. They are ancient, wise, heavy practioneers of the magical arts, and have a great affinitity for mathematics. They dwell in massive underwater citadels never tainted by the odors of men or dragons.

They are not largely evil however. It is true that certain sects have attempted to flood Origin, wipe out the human race, and reassemble Water. Most however are scientists and artists spending their long lives learning and creating. Some have even been known to befriend other mortals and teach them the ways of magic beginning with how to breathe water.

As they age ottopii continue to grow. As they grow, their form alters slightly. The mantle elongates almost hominidly. They grow a second pair of eyes at the tip and sprout additionally tentacles eventually forming a second row of legs while the lower legs grow a webbing between them. The gills of an ottopii can stiffen and rattle at will to send vibrations through the water facillitating communiation. All ottopii can change their color at will as well as produce a bright and dazzling bioluminescence. They use a combination of gestures, vibrations, colors, and lights (when being formal) to communicate.

>>42964117
I like this a lot.

>>42964394
oh, i thought the Ottopi was the old guy in >>42964214

Makes more sense if they turn into krakens when they die. Though i still kinda like the idea of krakens being Sea's brainchild. of course a name change here and there,

The mythological divine aspect of Sea's vengeance is now known as The Leviathan.

>>42964480
My idea was for krakkens terrifying mosters. Scarred, undead and ravenous. While the ottopii are secret, many know the terrors of a kraken. The krakken lose much of their sanity and are usually cast out of their home communities. Krakkens are not hated by their brethren, but they are proven to be untrustworthy. There have been instances of krakkens remaining as guardians and there was once a krakken king, the one who attempted to eradicate humanity.

The ottopii keep volgash as pets, hunting dogs, and food as the moods strike them. They wage eternal war against Sea's leviathans. The leviathan is the primary cause of Krakken creation.

While ottopii are free to pick their companions as they please. They are all sworn to absolute secrecy in matters concerning their culture and society. Any such questions will be met with a cold shoulder or tentacle if you will.

>>42964623
I know it's bad but I think that ottopi are popular in certain mage circles. Especially ones that favor lust worship f you catch meaning

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Mountain Fair

The oldest and grandest of all magic academies. Founded by Allora the Grand herself. The academy has never had more than 20 students at any given time though a cadre of about 50 mages reside as resident academics. Moutain Fair has educated such legendary mages such as Mayla Ender of the Famine, Uub the Skin Drummer, Maric the Dark, Jesleh the Shining, Jace, and Maruush Stormbringer. It is said that Lestillya the Wise still prosides over the school to this day.

In recent times Mountain Fair decided to remove themselves from current afairs and the mages casted a spell that sent even the memory of the academy into legend. In modern times, they never train more than 5 students at any given time unless the need is urgent. One can not apply for the academy but is asked to join by the mages who scry into destiny. Many archmagi of Omarase are actually graduates of Mountain Fair, but are sworn to secret fraternity.

>>42964900
Machinae anon here.

Seeing as the many technocratic states down south worship a literal technology goddess, how would the Mountain Fair be associated with them?

The Technocracy has a Coven of heavy progress-minded mages, artificers and soul manipulators. Are they an associate, a branch, or perhaps they acknowledge Mountain Fair's strength and send potential Coven Lord/Overseer to Mountain Fair?

>>42965114
Of course mages of Machinae have their alma mater at Mountain Fair, but like those in Omarase they are sworn to secrecy. Before Mountain Fair receded from public knowledge it was very common for mages to send their children there and the two enjoyed a healthy relationship with mages from both sides coming to give lectures and seminars. There was at least one Overseer to be a known graduate of MF. He is recorded as having made the Great Clock which tells time perfectly to a 1/10000th of a second.

>>42963327
>>42963308
We've mentioned earlier that sometimes people pray for their beauty if they cannot afford flesh shaping. And that Beauty sends them on ever increasing tasks which will end in their induction into the Cult's clergy. Which would then result in Beautification. So if you make it worth her while, she might make you beautiful

In addition she might give you divine inspriation on what is beautiful or how to become beautiful.

However if you're just annoying to her, praying for beauty to be bestowed upon you. (Doubly so if you are already beautiful.) Then she's gonna fuck with you. Or let someone like Fertility handle it, Who is more than happy to help, in her own special way.

"You want wider hips? Triplets will certainly fix that for you! no need to thank me. It was my pleasure to help."

>>42965389
I don't know about this it paints Beauty too cruelly. I know she is cruel to most, but to her followers she is always kind and gentle. She might do this, but with less pettiness.

"Oh, you want wider hips? Hmmmm, a set of three beautiful babies ought to do the trick! Oh, Fertilityyyy."

>>42965389
>>42965655

I was saying "Fuck With" in a sort of playful way. Not like, Oh you want to be beautiful huh? well Sure i'll make you beautiful! but now you have incurable Whooping cough.

More along the lines of, Oh you want to be beautiful? But you're already beautiful! hrmm.. Well l'll just make your teeth whiter.

>>42965811
I see beauty as wrathful, but still terribly shy. When granting the requests of her followers she like. "O-okay. umm, so you want them how big? O-oooh... Won't that hurt your ba- okay you want them regardless... Um. Fertility! can you handle this?"

>>42965655
>>42965811
>>42965949

So Moe~ Beauty, Motherly Beauty, or busy Beauty.

Which is best?

>>42966191
>Motherly Beauty,
Has my vote, but with a bit of a bitchy undertone

>>42966432
>>42966191
I'd go as afar as to strike the bitchy undertone. Maybe add some of her old shyness before she became a conquering hero/villain.

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>Thomas Sel'ik, The Old Judge

Tom is considered old fashioned by ancient orders even today. He, by all records, the last living member of Justice's clergy. He presided the war tribunals of Strength's enforcers after the war. He pronounced the Coven of Plentiful Fruit not guilty of Mass Murder for the actions of The First Fallen. He was the one who arrested Illisara the Quick, after her fifty year crime spree.

The man is well over 800 years old and is, to date the oldest living human. Some say its divine intervention. Though elder members of beauty's cult of justice claim it is from plain old stubbornness.

Bump

>>42966713
Eh, I like her being passive aggressive at least

>>42963416
Wasn't Lust one of the other gods Beauty has kept around as allies? In that case Fertility would have to consume her to gain her domain.
Might be interesting if she was plotting to do that without drawing Beauty's ire, and maybe even hoping to take Beauty's place.

>>42963577
Any people outside of Omarase would probably consider them to be the "evil empire" of the setting. They are after all supposed to be expansionistic and want to eradicate the cultures of people they conquer, and their goddess would probably want to subjugate and consume the rest of the gods that still oppose her.

I find this pretty interesting because they're still the viewpoint faction of the setting, and aren't really the BBEGs (that would probably be Suffering's followers).

>>42971788
No merriment and fertility are her subordinates

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>>42968086
I like this guy.

How many beasties do we want in this setting because I can probably think up a few originals. Otherwise I'll hop over to an art thread and just see what grabs my attention?

>>42964900
>>42963772
>>42963740
Also, I'm pretty bad at making nice maps like the anon here, but where should we put the Shattered Lands. I was thinking the top left corner or doing the islands in the Pagan lands. My idea being that once they were a solid island but in Beauty's rampage she broke it. Conversely the Shattered Lands could be on a different continent all together.

>>42973878
The Islands make the most sense with the lore. Of course this doesnt mean there aren't more of the shattered islands further off the coast to the west.

>>42973854
If you've got good stuff, then post it my friend. The art thread does give me an idea, maybe we can get some drawfaggotry of Beauty.

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>>42957254
I think Scarred would be a better name for them than Rotted.

Are there Vampires in this setting yet? I have some ideas for them.

>>42973979
as of yet, no. Post your shit anon.

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>>42974035
>The Bloodlords

Only the most desperate turn to consuming their fellow man, only the most depraved make a living of it. The Bloodlords are those who have nothing left to lose, and everything to gain. Those bereft of options may beseech Suffering to provide an out. Depending on his mood, he might simply kill them or mutilate them to prove a point, but on occasion he sees fit to test a mortals mettle. He transforms the beggers into Vampires, marking their flesh and filling them with an endless thirst for blood. Vampires cannot go out in daylight, it flays the flesh from their bodies like a razor, but at night they are monstrous predators. Capable of incredible feats of strength and agility, the vampire is also gifted powers of hypnotism and flight. The pleaders are given exactly what they desire, a way out of their suffering, by any means necessary.

Many vampires go mad from the hunger,they end up either killing themselves or put down like rabid dogs by the relevant authorities. A few take to their new forms like though, and these become the Bloodlords. Twisted and hideous to behold, they are forced to the outlands, using their powers to become warlords or bandit chiefs.

Some of the Bloodlords may put on heirs of being more than cannibal monsters, claiming to be some form of higher being. These are the ones who created the name Bloodlord. As both an sardonic self deprecation, and a way of looking on the bright side of their twisted existence.

>>42974147
I like it. Its simple and to the point and it makes sense with established lore.

I'm going to do some war elements in Omarase - some beasts for the Beauty team and some mech stuff for the Machinae

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>>42974681

Beauty in Devastation - the Eidolon

Despite the immensly powerful fleshcrafting magics, as well as more conventional magics, the citizens of Omarase are not optimally suited to warfare, at least no more so than other nations. In a land dominated by powerful beasts, Gods and Magitech, the bulk of Omarsan citizens are not capable of standing on the level required to survive, let alone dominate, in a land such as this one. As such, to maintain their position as the most powerful of all nations currently present on the continent, the Omarasans turned their skills to the creation of beasts of warfare. The most powerful of these are the Eidolon.

Eidolon are War Beasts of Omarase that were created with the direct help of the Goddess. While the bulk of Omarasan war beasts are simply immensely powerful monsters, Eidolons are far more powerful. They posses a certain degree of Divine Strength, granted to them by Beauty. As such they are all magical in nature and powerful beyond conventional means. Difficult to control, Eidolons follow only the Will of the Goddess to the letter, although they can be bound to a mortal mage. However, only Archmages attempt such a feat, for while the creation of an Eidolon is a hugely challenging prospect in terms of resources, requiring enough magical energy to power a major city for a week in a single instant, the challenge of then binding the creature to the Man's will while drained from the creation process is a Herculean task. Only those touched by Beauty ever succeed.

In battle, Eidolons are weapons of mass destruction. Capable of annihilating a conventional regiment almost single handedly, they are deployed only to major engagements or critical operations. They are not lightly unleashed, for when they are, only dust and ashes follows. Their presence is what gives Omarase it's REAL military power, beyond their divine patronage.

I wrote some stuff about the Shattered Lands

Long ago, the Shattered Lands were the site of the great battle between the followers of Beuty and those of her rival gods. It is said the gods themselves descended on the battlefield to aid their followers and that the battle was so great that earth itself was shattered by the forces unleashed by the warring deities.
The landscape of the Shattered Lands consists of steep cliffs and deep ravines, the weather conditions change rapidly and earthquakes and volcanic eruptions are common. The land is also populated by vicious beasts and the foul worshippers of Suffering. However, the strangest aspect of the Shattered Lands is that the forces that led to their cretaion have also warped the fabric of space in the area. Normal methods of navigation are useless in the Shattered Lands. A person can walk in a straight line and end back where he started, and two people following the same path may end up in completely different places. All of these combine to make the Shattered Lands probably the most dangerous place in the world, yet some exceptionally brave (or possibly suicidal) adventurers still brave the lands, following legends speaking of divine relics left on the great battlefield.

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>>42974904

Beasts of War - the Homunculi

While the Omarasan army does contain conventional soldiers, relative to it's army's power, the number of "normal" soldiers is small, and even these are not truly normal soldiers. However, forming the core of the army's hitting power are the Homunculi, monsters crafted specifically for war. Created through the application of Fleshshaping magics unto a suitable target - either a living animal, human or monster, or a large magical source - mages can create mindbound monsters solely for warfare.

The Homunculi are huge, the smallest hulking well over the largest of men. They are intelligent, but not truly sapient, instead bound entirely to the minds of the mages who direct them into combat. Referred to as Beast Masters, Monster Handlers or "Ring Masters", these mages are extremely important to Omarasan military strategy. Commanding 5 to 20 Homunculi at a time, these make for vicious fighting cells.

In combat, Homunculi are savage. While nothing next to the superficially similar Eidolon, each one is still more than capable of ripping apart an isolated squad of conventional soldiers by itself, or blasting the same to ash from afar with magic, even smashing them asunder with massively scaled conventional weaponry. Humanoid, Monstrous or resembling Animals, they are all terrifying foes. However, they are not invincible, they can still be slain. They can be brought down by sufficient firepower and even a brave enough soldier could kill one, given time and a suitable weapon. The problem then, is that they come in groups. Protecting their Beast Master, they come as a Monstrous wave that smashes all before it, forming the core of the Omarasan military.

>>42974973
I'd like to think this would be one of the first times that Eidolon hit the field, and REALLY broke some heads while the Gods struggled, smashing away at the armies of the rival gods.

>>42975029
>>42974904

Both of these are designed by, largely by the Chimera Breeders. Though it's advanced techniques and requires a master's touch and/or divine inspiration.

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>>42975029

Those who Stand - Omarasan Soldiers

While they stand in an army dominated by magical monsters, the citizenry of Omarase still fight in their army. Making up the bulk of the numbers involved, the Omarasan soldiers are a determined and solid lot. However, this does not mean that they are weak. Far from it, in the nation of ultimate Fleshshaping, there is no such thing as a weak link in their army.

Omarasan foot soldiers are all Supersoldiers. The product of Generations of Fleshshaping magical application, they are all at the pinacle of what it could be to be a Human. Tall, powerful, lightning fast, agile, incredible reflexes, all these and more ensure that Omarasan foot soldiers will smash their equivalent opposites in any army they face. The truly experienced and the blademasters of Omarase are even capable of fighting a Homunculus solo and standing a decent chance of victory. Instead of using archers, the Omarasan's use spear throwers, launching huge volleys of javelins large enough to be classified as Ballista Bolts.

However, the greatest strength of these soldiers is Physiological. They CANNOT feel fear, barely need to eat or drink, sleep for a tiny amount of time, are immune to most poisons and diseases and can endure immense damage without faltering. The Armies of Omarase can travel immense distances in little time due to this and in the worst of conditions. To face Omarase on the field of battle is to face a foe lesser than you in numbers but all are Demigods of war and their Monsters. It is to face an army as of the fables.

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>>42975029
>The Elegance Corps.

All armies need specialists. Sometimes the overwelming force of The Eidolons and The Homunculi aren't practical. Or the Bulk of Omarasan army is too unwieldy

The Elegance Corps are Scouts, Infilitraters, Commanders, and Killers all. They specialize in weakening defenses, taking out key targets, and being forward skirmishers.

They train with mock combat in all harsh environments with real weapons. The has a 80% washout/fatality rate.

>>42975146
I think the supersolders bit would be the equivalent of Knights in the Omarasan army. Not your bog standard soldiers.

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Those who Command - Omarasan Warmages

The lynchpin of the Omarasan military, it is their battlemages that control the field. They are all masters of their craft, organised into squadrons of like skilled mages that exercise their skill as one. Each group is one of immense power when their talent is pooled.

Electromancers pool their talent to create rippling blasts of lightning and coronas of electricity arcing over the battlefield. Pyromancers send balls of fire rocketing over the field, alongside Aeromancers who ward off aerial assault. Cryomancers freeze entire regiments solid while Arcanists create walls of Kinetic force. All these work in coordination along with many more to ensure power and control to the entire army. And, above these, are the Beast Masters, who lead their packs of savage Homunculi into the warzone with extreme brutality and prejudice, delighting in the devastation they cause.

These Battlemages also serve as the commanders of the ordinary soldiers, directing them into battle. Magic gives them unparalleled vision and foresight, allowing them to direct troops with calmness and control. It is impossible to shock the Omarasans into submission or flight - they will be ready and calmly waiting with anatomical precision.

>>42975227

I reckon that the Knight equivalents will have the full shebang of upgrades.

But it's remarkably easy to improve the human body. It would take no time and next to no energy to "improve" a soldier to almost superhuman levels, certainly to buff it up.

I say everyone has SOME level of improvement, especially the Endurance, Eating, Drinking and Sleeping bits along with minor physical improvements.

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>>42975227
>I think the supersolders bit would be the equivalent of Knights in the Omarasan army. Not your bog standard soldiers.
I don't think they really have "bog standard soildiers". Rather, it's an elite army where all the combatants are highly trained and probably hold a rank a a knight or equivalent. Pretty much like fantasy Space Marines, or something.

>>42975333
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>>42974904

So, anything else really we should do for Omarase? Maybe an Air force or Navy?

Or should I move on to the Machinae?

>>42975427
I think we're good, Move on to the next one.

>>42975456
We'll just assume some basic ships and their Airforce can be Homunculi and their riders that have flight capacity, Wyverns and Storm Raptors and such. Plus Eidolons.

I'll do some Magitech now.

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>>42975512

The Mobile Armours - Magitech Suits

There are two main schools of though in the lands of the Machinae about how war should be fought. The first is of those that hail from the Southern regions of Machina territory. It is the principle of utilising magitech to form armoured suits for individual soldiers to wear into battle. They range in size from mass produced infantry models to the larger Juggernaut suits and up from there. Each is a marvel of Technosorcery, magical energies driving microsized motors and drivers to boost the capabilities of the wearer, as well as providing a weapons system.

The Infantry model is a highly customisable suite that comprises of the base suit which fits tightly around the average infantry man. These slightly boost the capabilities of the wearer, but not much. It mainly serves to lock in a mounted modular weapons system, ranging from basic magitech guns and bows to swords, shields and the like, powering and amplifying these weapons. The Infantry suit can then be improved upon, Sergeant models, Commander models, Special operative models with limited stealth capabilities, the works. It is a highly modular and well proven piece of equipment that serves the Southern Machinae armies well.

Juggernaut suits are the Southern Machinae answer to Supersoldier commanders and some Homunculi. Huge warsuits that dwarf men and greatly amplify the wearer's power, to levels that leave Superhuman in the dust. Limited to special units of the armour in a concentrated brick, Juggernaut suits mount the Heavy Weapons of the Machinae, from huge piston hammers to larger artillery pieces and other, more esoteric weapons. Clashes between Juggernauts and Homunculi are breathtaking to behold, although difficult to survive proximity to.

cont.

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>>42975674

Behemoth suits are an unusual classification as they are very loose in designation. They basically encompass any piece of Magitech Armour that falls between Juggernaut and Titan in classification. They are not mass produced, instead individually hand crafted. Each one is a unique piece and are often used by battlefield commanders as not just potent but recognisable symbols of power and authority. They are individually more powerful than a Homunculus as a rule but it would be a brave fool or insanely skilled pilot to think to solo a full hunting unit of Homunculi, especially so if the controlling mage is present. However, as a command unit, Behemoths are unsurpassed.

Finally, there are the Titan suits. Created specifically to oppose the Omarasan Eidolons after the first time that an Eidolon saw action against the forces of the Machine God in one of the many battles of the Shattered Lands and, to use the technical term, absolutely buttfucked them. After that particular engagement the Machine followers began constructing Titan suits. The problem that they faced is one of quality - Machina is a relatively apathetic God, and will not divinely empower the suits, no matter how well they are built, unless the individual takes a petition to the God him or herself. As such, the Titan suits are individually no match for the Eidolon. They solve this problem with Quantity. For every Eidolon that can take the field, two Titans can be deployed in opposition. And, while not as powerful as an Eidolon, a Titan suit is still far beyond the capability of a soldier to destroy. It would take the application of several hunting packs of Homunculi to bring one down, or multiple Warmage cells or better still both. They are immensely powerful pieces of engineering that pack enough firepower to engage whole regiments. To fight monsters, the Machinae built monsters of their own.

>>42974147
We could also throw in a bit too of how it extends their life. Death hates humans above all else since they killed him. I was thinking up some dragon lore that while dragons can sacrifice their hoard to buy more life, they can also please their father by killing humans. This practice is not often used by any but the most twisted or most powerful dragonkin because it is essentially a death warrant.

Vampires and bloodlords are granted extended unnantural life by Death as their activites amuse him. Should they begin to refine their bloodlust and not slay those from whom they drink, Death will have no more use for them and they shall succumb to the Dragon's Pull.

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The Automata Armamentio - Artificial Soldiers

The second school of thought for the forces of Machina to fight large scale in is to remove the flawed human element altogether. The forces of the Northern element of the Machine lands adhere to this philosophy, especially since they have to constantly battle the monsters that spill out of the brutal conditions of the mountains digging into their territory. As such, they built Artificial soldiers to do the fighting for them.

Automata Armamentio, better known as Clockworks, come in many different sizes and shapes. There are two types of Infantry class. The Soldier class is a Clockwork roughly of the dimensions of a man that wields a melee weapon and shield. They are simple, cheap and easy to mass produce. Platform classes are essentially a mobile set of magitech treads that bear a ranged weapon of some description, a mortar, large bow, crossbow or simple magitech gun. Both Soldier and Platform Clockworks are deployed in huge numbers, their Automatic Intelligence limited at best and slaved to the Pure Knowledge Network to PKN.

The class of Clockwork best known as Priests are a type of Clockwork that functions as a beacon of magical energies and a node for the PKN. They are found amongst the swarming lesser Clockworks, allowing them to function far beyond their meagre basic specifications. They serve as the "Mind" of the Clockwork swarm and as such, are priority targets. Knowing this, Priests are built to be, regardless of specifics, heavily armoured and ranged focussed, to avoid the dangers of melee.

Serving as the entirety of the Clockwork heavy element is the class of Clockwork known as Einherjar. Containing total independence from the rest of the swarm, with a localised PKN, they are heavy platforms that fall into a range above Homunculus or Juggernaut but lower than Titan and much lower than Eidolon. What they lack in quality, however, they make up for in immense quantity.

These guys swarm to fight.

>>42975955

There is constant conflict between the followers of the Automata Armamentio solution and the followers of the Magitech Armour solution. Oftentimes this conflict leads to open civil war between the Machinae. Thus you see the two schools of thought tested against each other in open battle. And then there's Omarase, who throws the proverbial wrench into both side's plans.

>>42975986
>>42975955
>>42975779
>>42975674

So, what now? I'm in a military mood ~

>>42976003
Common forces you might find in the barbarian hordes of The Shatterlands?

>>42925777
thats some gay-ass cosmology

>>42976032
ehh...

They wouldn't have too much, would they? Beyond the faceless hordes?

>>42974973
Dude this is eerie, I was literally thinking exactly this earlier today! It also gives good adventure hooks.

In direct contrast to the order of Origin, is the disorder of the Shattered Lands. Having been created by huge explosions of divine and magical energy, these islands exist beyond the petty laws of the natural world. Observable as islands they are both connected and infinitely far apart.

Only those most blessed by Suffering like the self-named bloodlords and the highest order of the Scarred can accurately traverse the lands without err. Beyond this, only the use of magic, divine providence, or luck can allow one to successfully travel through the hellish land. Otherwise, one is doomed to wander and wander never truly sure where they are going. One could land on the beach of an island step out and face inland only to turn around and find an expanse of dune where once there had been Sea.

The appearance of the landscape is ever changing. Rocks jut out at strange angles. The earth depresses in manners that defy logic. Huge storms can be seen approaching only to have been a mirage while a sunny day can become a typhoon in seconds.

Naturally, only the foolishly brave or the woefully stupid voluntarily seek this realm. This however does not please Suffering. He has cursed the land such that one could be travelling safely on a road far inland on Origin and find themselves wandering blindly into his domain. The trap is double edged though as it also gives a small chance for those within to escape by pure luck. Adventures across the land are aware of this fact and know that if such unfortunate events come to pass, they must walk on and on hoping against hope that they find their way home.

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>>42976050
Unless we've got some other nation that's directly opposed to Omarase, Then we're probably good.

>Godlets, The Race of Divine Rejects

The shatterlands, though Suffering holds primary sway, the remnants of Domains struggles to survive here. They exist in the Godlets, near mortal gods that have had their domains subdivided into near uselessness. They claim lofty but ultimately puny titles, such as God of Sarcastic Comments Made Under One's Breath at Social Events On A Rainy Tuesday, and so on.

Despite this, they DO have divine power. And it is reflected in their Other worldly appearance.

>>42975029
I think a weakness exploited by Machinae is the link to the beastmaster mages. They developed an arcane technology which acts as a sort of scrambler for the mages mental commands driving the beasts to either maddening, uncontrolled rage or knocking them out within a certain range. They also developed another tool which if implanted into the brain of a living homunculi basically sends back so much magical disturbance it short circuits the beastmasters brain.

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>>42976032

Those who tamed Agony - Monster Cavalry

The denizens of the Shatterlands do not have much in the way of a military, however, they still tend to repel most assaults. The reasons for this are many, but one of the most prominent is the only part of the Barbarian's forces that could be classified as "Heavy".

There are many monsters out in the Shatterlands that are creatures of magic. The clashes that took place in those ruined plains, those floating islands saturated the region with magic, warping and twisting the many animals native to the region. The ones that survived became monsters of magic and over time, their genealogy stabilised. And with that, they could be caught and tamed.

An irregular force, the Monster Cavalry of the Shatterlands is a terrifying foe to face. Comprising individual warbands ranging from 5 - 30 odd beasts and their riders, they roam the Shatterlands as wild hunting packs and kill all they come across. However, in times of crisis, the Warbands unite into a single terrifying force that thunders through the broken terrain to destroy all that would threaten their "Home". A wave of unique fangs and claws and magics that breaks all in front of it, one that is totally at home in the terrain of the Shatterlands.

>>42976177
And as such magical countermeasures were made, and so forth.

Also, Everyone is working out how to break up the PKN and disable Magitech Armours.

It all turns into a traditional military arms scene of plot and counter plot to cripple their foes.

>>42976161
I can work with this a lot as a GM. Makes for 100 and 1 adventure hooks.

>>42976228
And some seriously pissed off players who now have to work for the God of Annoying Waves that Splatter Sandcastles or they'll get curbstomped otherwise

>>42976287
... well only if they're level one!

They're probably on par with a decently educated mage in terms of power level.

>>42976331
I was thinking more like a high level elemental or Archon. Like - Elite enemy for a mid level party tier

>>42976351
Depends on how subdivided they are.

>>42976591
definitely true.

Now this raises a question.

Politics in the Shatterlands

>>42976701
well, i'm going to die for the night, ciao

>>42976701
"My tribe is the largest, toughest, and meanest, I don't think you can question our authority."

"I think i can!"

"Right, Lets debate this civilly"

*Both parties begin to box each other's lights out.*

>>42976701
No politics in my opinions. It's basically in a constant state of flux where the Scarred form tribes under warper kings. It's basically might makes right; the strongest rule.

>>42976701
>>42976161
Godlets form mock courts insistig adamamently that mortals stay for tea. Stay and play pretend that they are real gods forever.

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>>42976701
I imagine it's mostly tribal shit until one enterprising warlord pulls a Genghis Khan and unites everyone to go try and beat up everyone else. But then they'll be too busy being all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPh1KXA8egU to bother with politicking.

>The Free Ones

Those who warriors turn away from the path of Beauty are oft rewarded by Suffering, in his own brutal way.

Granted enormous strength and physical stamina, these brutes can often be found leading raiding parties of Scarred or tribes-people, their imposing stature and aura of fear making them natural leaders. They are most often found with armour of black iron hammered directly into their flesh, a tribute to the deity who would reward their own ambitions, rather than his alone.

>>42978868
>Ghouls

Most of those afflicted with Vampirism take to as the sociopathic Bloodlords do. No, most of those poor souls succumb to the savage hunger and devolve into ghouls.

Emaciated and maddened by their endless thirst, the ghouls hide from the light wherever they can. Often found lurking in empty tombs, abandoned basements, and sewers these sorry beasts are an infrequent but notorious problem in Omarase's poorer areas. They feast on flesh and blood in equal measure, desperately trying to fill their bottomless bellies.

Though starved and rapid, they still possess the strength and swiftness their greater kin are known for and can prove a dangerous beast to get rid of.

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>>42925777
>Repeater Crossbow

The weapons of war fine tuned to be death machines. With Pulleys, Gears, and a little magical agency; these Crossbows shoot, drawback, and load a new bolt automatically and faster than mortal ever could. Allowing for previously unheard of rates of fire.

A variant is the Volley Repeater, which looses three bolts per trigger pull in rapid succession.

Some claim that such capabilites reduce wielder discipline and reduce the reliance of orders and accuracy, These claims are largely unfounded. However the reloading mechanism adds an element of recoil that was previously missing from its single shot brethren. The internal mechanisms are also a bit touchy, and require regular maintenance in order to function properly.

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>Arcanosmiths

This group of mages Omarase's primary form of magical item creation. From the water purification seals on aqueducts, to the flaming sword; you can be sure these craftsmen have had a hand in creating it.

Like all magical services, they're a bit pricey at times, however the quality of service is unparalleled.

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>>42982052
>Blastpowder Weapons

Blastpowder was discovered by the Dwarves but humans were the ones who took to it best. Using the expanding gas and tubes, these weapons hurl projectiles at blistering paces. Though unwieldy in comparison to Crossbows, They hit like a charging Behemoth during mating season. They can use either Flint, matches, or fire runes to activate.

The most common kind, a "Pistol", launches shaped lead down range. Magical variations allow for the Bullet to become imbued with elemental magics as it exits the barrel. Most have a revolving cylinder that houses the bullets and blastpowder. often in paper cartridges.

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I have no fluff for this, but I thought it looked like it fit in.

>>42983312
I wouldnt doubt it. Probably one of the beast folk.

>>42982525
So we're talking tech levels of "Real shitty pistols/muskets" at tops combined with magitech that allow them to be magic in nature?

>>42986303

I'd imagine that the pistols and muskets are refined to a point that the only logical upgrade from there is metal cartridges.

I'd even suggest that "Blastpowder" is roughly equivalent in to modern gunpowder.

>>42986471
At the same time, we're talking fantasy blades, plate armour (for non magitech armour), bows and siege machines like trebuchet?

>>42986514
Well historically Firearms, pistols, muskets and Cannons have been used for a very long time, Well within the period to be used in conjunction with bow, plate armor, swords ect. The Gun didn't get rid of plate armor. In fact blacksmiths would even test their armor by shooting it at close range leaving a small dent to prove its strength. This practice was called "Bullet proofing".

siege machines like trebuchets stood proudly with cannons for a time. Cannons couldn't lob a shot. Trebuchets could.

>>42986650
The problem with Bulletproofing was that it still didn't save the wearer. The impact of the bullet would hit the breastplate, the plate would stop it, and the transferred kinetic force would pulp the soldier's insides to mash. That's the main reason plate armour fell out of fashion.

>>42986698
The breastplate stopped the bullet and kept the wearer just fine. The real reason Plate armour was phased out is because Plate armor is fucking expensive. It was cheaper to train a new soldier than it was to clad an old one in steel.

However we can start a new thread to argue that.

>>42986765
blargh. Technical discrepancies are an issue for another time.

We need more countries to put on the map.

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>>42987172
>The Barony of Booty

Booty booty, booty butt cheeks. booty. Bottom bum.

The baron of booty is an eccentric man whom set up a quirky man who lives in northern Origin whom owns a small portion of land near a natural hotspring. He believes that one's derriere is the most sacred part of the human body and it must be respected. As such he requires everyone whom lives on his lands to display their posterior with revealing clothes such as bikinis or ass-less chaps. Most people don't pay his wierd obsession any mind, as the hotsprings on his land are filled with minerals and mana. Very good for one's health and skin.

Sorry if i'm a little distant and/or wierd atm, i have until midnight tomorrow to write and edit a story about a 97 year old alchemist expy of Indiana Jones kick a hobo that is also a creature from Lithuanian mythology in the heart.

>>42987378
Well. That's pretty magical realm, but ok.

>>42987378
>>42987697

I wasn't being serious.

If I can interject, I don't think there should be fire-arms at all.

It really starts to complicate technology, warfare, and a lot of other stuff when you start thinking too hard about it.

>>42988262
I was working with, at the absolute max, some simple magitech firearms for the Machinae, and they have by far the best. They weren't going to be central at all, blackpowder not even being a thing and the Magitech guns being entirely reliant upon magic.

So yeah, i'm going to agree with this Anon. Guns aren't a good idea in a fantasy setting.

>>42988334
that's fine by me. The thing i listed was gonna belong to Machinae anyways.

>Rowanald, The empire of Samuel Fernando the Sixteenth, Jewel of Origin.

Where Omarase lays claim to most Prosperous of the west, Rowanald holds that title of the East. Spanning from sea to sea in four different directions, Rowanwald is to date the largest civilization on the planet.

It is unique in its use of an elevated canal network to interconnect all of its provinces, cities, towns, and territories. These "High-waterways" have made moving goods in-between settlements far easier than over land travel.

>>42991707

Can you show this spot on the map, anon?

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>>42991885
oh right, derp.

Bump

>>42963740
>>42963777

So, we have a lot of "Unclaimed" territory going on here, and a couple of obvious division points.

We should have a country in the southern island, one in that bit to the right sandwiched between Omarase and Machina and one or two more in the middle bit, maybe a desert nation for the desert region.

Thoughts? Xeltil? Bemargo?

>>42993430
Also, more to the damn point, where exactly are the Shatterlands?

>>42993479
I believe they're supposed to be the group of islands in the bay on the west side of the continent, with the implication being that the area used to eb part of the continent untill the fight between the gods literally shattered the land.

>>42982330
A large portion of these guys are dwarves.

>>42983312
>>42984101
Could also be a cult of humans who worship dragons. Not Omarasian as dragons hate any humans who worship the gods.

These people learned a stwisted fleshcrafting and became a dracotaur? Very, very rare indeed. Using such undisciplined fleshcrafting usually leads to death. The dragons largely do not care for these followers, but they are more than happy to accept sacrifices and shiny things to add to their hoards that these are wont to bring to them.

>>42993430
I was honestly thinking upper left corner be a sort of Holy Roman Empire - just a bunch of nation states. They are frequestly bought and sold by nobles across the continent however there is a great variety of local cultures found in the region. The people there don't really care for the rich lords and ladies. They simply accept that every year they probably pay taxes to a different person. In modern times, Omarase tried to expand into the territory but began to overextend their reach whilst fighting a war on 2 fronts with the trolls and Machinae.

Fire's Maw in the south is a very dangerous place. Here the only established force is the tail end of Machinae's empire. Dragons are found throughout the land scheming and giving hosting dark festivals for Death and Fire. Any mortal found wandering the area is promptly taken as a slave. Only travelling merchants sponsored by at least 3 dragons are safe to caravan their wares of precious metals, jewels and slaves are safe in this region. Dragons tend not to build societies due to their inherent distrust of everything and basically divy up the land into territories over which there is constant squabbling.

>>42991885
Also, the desert west of Omarase - Jalhanast.

This dessert has been a huge barrier to Omarasian expansion. Despite all their magics and war beasts, the guerilla tactics of Jalhani dessert men are too much. The Jalhnai form a nomadic society diving the will fo Stars, Moon, and Sun. They hide wells deep below the dunes and use magic to move the sands to reveal them. They have no cities but designate certain places at certain times of year to gather and trade.

They communicate by praying to Stars to rearrange herself in such a coded manner. The code is ever-changing making deciphering it near impossible. They traverse the sands seeking water, sowing seeds of psychoactive plants that somehow flourish in the sandy regions, gatehring these plants, hunting, and seeking stargifts (rare metals sent from the heavens by Stars so that her people might flourish). It is only with Sun's blessing on the hottest of days that the stargifts might be shaped through ritual incantation. The stargifts then must be sharpened and smoothed by fine sands in the light of Moon's full visage. To complete the ritual, the forger must drip his or her own blood onto the item to seal the bond.

Stargift weapons and armor are prized a tier above all else. Neither True Dwarf crafters nor the greatest technomancers of Machinae can craft finer mastercraft items. Stargift metal is astoundingly light allowing the holder to use it with great speed. Stargift items bond to their crafter and have strange properties. In sunlight, it can shine brightly and blind others around it. In moonlight, it seems to catch no light and is dull giving added stealth. Stargift swords are often lesser vorpal weapons (can slice through almost any other material and nearly unbreakable). These items are almsot never found in the hands of outsiders for when the forger succumbs to the Dragon's Pull, the item melts away like water.

>>42994686

Well, to fight raiders like that, Eidolon would be entirely impractical/useless (you'd never be able to bring one to bear, they'd just avoid it), the mage cells are too vulnerable to a quick raid and the foot soldiers are too slow. That just leaves Homunculi, and unsupported Homunculi are somewhat vulnerable - as in, their attendant mage becomes a far easier target (relatively).

The Omarasan army is NOT designed for Guerrilla warfare. Their standard response to Guerrilla tactics beforehand has been to simply annihilate the scenery so there's nowhere to hide and then push on to the nation's capital. However, a nation of nomads HAVE no capital, forcing the Omarasan's to fight on their terms where they don't have the means.

>>42994686
The secret of their forging is the largest secret of the Jalhani. An outsider in possession of a stargift item caught by the Jalhani is in for a rough time as this means that somewhere a brother has either been robbed of a piece of their soul or is being held hostage. The desert nomads will bury the infidel in sand exposing only their heads. They shave their scalps and pray to Sun to take great vengenace. They will proceed to ask where they acquired the item. For every time they do not recieve an answer or recieve one that is not to their liking, they leave a small cut. This practice rarely bares any fruit but seems to appease the nomads. If their prisoner does give them a location they leave one of their number behind to keep watch and keep the poor soul alive while the rest daringly attempt to liberate their countryman.

Despite this cruel practice and the guerilla tactics, the Jalhani nomads are primarily reclusive and peaceful. They attempt to avoid travellers in the desert but should they come upon one lost they follow Moon's dogma and help the poor soul find their way home. In modern times, this kindness is never extended to Omarasians unlucky enough to be found. While not a rule of thumb, they are usually slain where they stand as revenge for Beauty's cruelty and devouring of their goddess Moon.

>>42994760
>>42994728
However despite their great efforts, Omarase does still claim a large portion of the desert. They less so rule it and moreso killed everyone who lived there and planted a flag in the ashes.

>>42994782
Otherwise known as "They had three Eidolon show up and flatten, literally, everything for a few thousand km." And then they planted a flag in the glassed sand. The raiders have been too terrified to go back to the Glass Wastes ever since.

Also, Xetil did you make that beautiful map yourself and where are you getting all the Omarasian artwork they all have such similar features?

As a final note we should try and add to the beastiary without thinking exclusively was this a creature of Machinae of Beauty. There was a lot of time before the War of the Gods and as such the flora and fauna need to be fleshed out more. We have valgash, leviathans, krakken, behemoths, dragons, golimae, and fiends as beasties that have been around for a while but a lot of the monsters we have are also relatively new -scarred, bloodlords, ghouls, eidilons, homunculi, trolls.

>>42994832
As a quick note on that point, Homunculi and Eidolon are artificial Warbeasts, they wouldn't be found, as a rule, outside of the Omarasan army. Maybe the odd feral Homunculus. But definitely no wild Eidolon.

Both are more Weapons than they are Animals.

>>42994819
Oh, I like that a lot. The commander intentionally glassed the sands and offered the new territory as a gift to Beauty and was granted a lordship from her personally.

Beauty's Mirror as it is called by Omarasians is a scenic and beautiful vacation and tourist destination with many mages etting up shop providing magical luxuries.

The Glass Waste as the Jalhani call it is the site of a horrible genocide and is steeped in great sadness. Young Jalhani raiders frequently make raids on it and ensure to scare the corpses horribly to mock Beauty. Despite the great danger of going their, Omarasians still frequent it oftenly. Whether this is is arrogance or foolishness is for anyone to decide.

>>42994875
I figured but if we think of this in terms of making a monster manual that's where they'd be.

>>42994883
I can see the glassing happening. Imagine it from the perspective of one of the Raiders.

You're just sitting around your fire as the evening draws to a close and the sun is almost at the horizon. The Omarasans have been driven off, again, and you're enjoying your relaxation. Then you hear an inhuman roar. You think it might be a Dune Lion, or possibly a Great Leaper. But no, as you look at the horizon, you see a huge shape looming there, silhouetted against the sun. It's almost Dragonlike in it's appearance, but it hovers on two legs, great curved claws and edged blades covering it's diamond like scales. It roars again, a magical array appearing in front of it. You watch as it fires an immense blast of pure energy into the array and then out as a monumental explosion. As it dims, you see the glass a few metres to your left and beyond has been turned to glass, your hunt mates all dead, vaporised by the attack. You see the Eidolon winding up for another blast. You quickly sprint for the glass and leap onto it, ignoring it burning the soles of your feet horribly. You sprint over the burning Glass as the Eidolon reduces everything you knew as Home to an infertile Crystalscape.

You flee over the destruction range, several weeks later and almost dead. Your feet are burned down almost to the bone. The sun's reflections off the glass has burnt even your resistant skin to a crisp. You are dehydrated and starving. And as you collapse into the arms of another tribe, you tell them the tale of those who find Beauty in Devastation and the Glass Wastes behind you. You survive the Apocalypse and live on to tell tales to future generations, unable to ever walk again after the damage to your feet, but cursed with eternal life from the magical energies that saturated the area you walked for weeks on end.

You become Shelna-Kora - the Glass Sage. The eternal wise figurehead of the Raiders of the Jalhani and their defacto leader

>>42994976
Dope as hell, nigga. I'm going to start a monster art thread to get some inspiration ofr beasties.

>>42995011
Well, we've had decent images of everything, I think. I drew heavily from final fantasy for the creation of both Eidolon and Homunculi, if that's any help, especially for the Eidolon. The one I described in the story is basically Bahamut from either ff13 or ff0hd

>>42925777
>>42925777
How the fuck is the God of beauty meant to beat the god of strength? That's like Aphrodite beating Athena/Ares or Freyja putting Thor or Tyr to rout.

>>42995126
Nigga, she just did. Also, she had the greatest weapon ever made crafted for her by the god Forge. She was also super charged with divine power given to her by Justice. She basically held the power of 3 gods at once.

>>42995126
>>42995190

Not to mention she was killing and absorbing all of Strength's godly cronies, so it was more like the power of six or seven gods.

We're about to hit bump limit soon.

>>42997388
bump someone start a new thread I'm going out in a few. Lets do flora and fauna eddition.

Bump for new thread

New thread yet?
If not I'll make one once this falls off the board
Just need a good pic