>>42612564
IT BEGINS

FOR HOUSE AND DOMINION

>>42612564
FOR HOUSE AND DOMINION!

So our next goal is to have the Earl raised to the level of Duke, making J/D a major House.

Thereby justifying our ascension to Viscount

>>42612564
Please tell me we aren't going to mention the merger idea. I don't want to look like an idiot anytime one person has an unsupported notion.

>>42612881
Just pray we don't give our word and then immediately go back on it again.

We can chalk up asking silly questions to 'ensuring every possible solution is heard and considered'... to ourselves, at least.

>>42612844
>So our next goal is to have the Earl raised to the level of Duke, making J/D a major House.
Next step up for the Earl is a Count actually.

>>42612564
FOR HOUSE AND DOMINION!

>>42612642
Better late than never edition.

>>42612844
Earl will probably be made a Count soon provided things don't become too politically uncomfortable.

>>42612881
>I don't want to look like an idiot anytime one person has an unsupported notion.

I modified that question last time slightly to reduce the appearance of Sonia's political ineptitude.

>>42501167
>"So is there was a way to ally the current Ruling House with the House that has the strongest military, through a wedding or something similar? This could stabilise the Dominion quite a bit. that or even a peaceful way of transferring power from the current Ruling House to Ber'helum would be better than more fighting."

While you've long been on the side of the Ruling House, Ber'helum has recently provided significant aid to you in the fight against Erid. It's not something you could overlook, and neither can the Earl and the other Barons.

You've talked to the diplomat from House Ber'helum already, giving a compelling argument that it is time for a new Ruling House. During the discussions you've attempted to look for a solution that won't involve the Major Houses in all out war against each other for control of the Dominion. Or at least not the three Houses that are here attempting to ally with you.

Helios is considered a neutral party but a respected one. No House has risen to rule the Dominion without their support since the dawn of spaceflight. Admittedly in one case that involved overthrowing Helios and installing a puppet government but few after the fact debated its necessity.
If they can be convinced that one particular faction within the Dominion has gained enough strength they'll throw their support behind them. Or so you all hope.

Remember the plan bois, Ber'helum, JD, Kharbos, Helios dream team.

The diplomat sent by House Kharbos is Lord Compton, a minor human noble from one of their central worlds.

He's quick to assure you that their House is determined to make amends for the atrocities committed on Gesaur, both by those among their own House and those by the pirates with their technology.

"Our research and development programs have traditionally been conducted in areas isolated from the politics at home to prevent security leaks. Unfortunately it also makes it harder for us to keep an eye on what our people are doing. From finding out what lengths they're going to. Those of our nobles that survived the ordeal and were found guilty of experimentation on living subjects were all punished.
Many of our nobles in the region that were uninvolved found their lands taken by the Ruling House following the campaign. We've attempted to compensate them and others using the remaining holdings of those found to be responsible."

Well that is a bit reassuring. It still won't mean you'll forget what happened there.

"The Ruling House has been attempting to gain support since the start of the war by courting the more stable and established Houses. Those with the most to lose from changes to the established order and political hierarchy.
House Kharbos has lately been attempting to get back to its origins. The Dominion was at its most powerful when it was experiencing political and social change, or at the very least reform. House Kharbos helped lead some of those reforms, such as allowing Humans to become Nobles."

>Point out the failed attempt to form a Constitutional Monarchy that helped to trigger the Faction Wars?
>Y/N?

Otherwise, What say?

>>42613877
>N
No need to trade barbs with the diplomat. I imagine Sonia would try at this point to be diplomatic without making any commitments: congratulating the diplomat on his houses's experimental drive without giving our personal blessing, invite him to a few functions, ask if his house would be interested in any investment into our more far out ventures, etc. Ask him on his and Kharbos's view on our own house, how they see us in the future etc. Get him talking about what he wants to say so we can give little input while appearing receptive.

Mostly just be polite, and see whats being offered without committing to anything yet.

>>42613877
>failed attempt to form a Constitutional Monarchy

Is this the 'would you like to know more' option?

because I'd like to know more.

>Yes

>questions/what say?

So how are we supposed to trust Kharbos to rule the Dominion when the most recent example of their House's leadership resulted in Gesaur?

... can we ask how that Kharbos guy we set free is doing, by name?

>>42614114
Seconding this.

But from a personal perspective, is also like to know more about this constitutional monarchy attempt.

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>>42614126
>Is this the 'would you like to know more' option?
More like it's: god damn, why didn't I get around to posting the rest of the History of the Dominion?
It's really long and needs its own page as it would blot out the rest of the Dominion page. Parts of it are mentioned in other articles that are up like Iratar, the Kavarian Imperium and the parts about the Terran Civil War. It's even mentioned in passing in the article about the Shukhant.

Short and possibly imprecise version: The Expeditionary Wars were coming to an end as the Navigators released new R&D for faster longer range FTL. The expeditionary fleets that were responsible for exploring and colonizing much of the Centri cluster like it was a 4X game are suddenly able to make trips in days instead of months at a time. The Rovinar know this has been coming for awhile now and is freaking out due to the long lasting not quite cold war between the Dominion and the Terrans/Rovinar.

They come up with a plan. The Ruling House is almost so powerful as to be unassailable. They could form the central government of a constitutional monarchy in a state which would in theory encompass all of the then known factions. The Terran and Rovinar worlds keep their democratic status and could aid the Ruling House in putting dwon Houses that resist. Eventually similar rights would be put into place within all the former Houses of the Dominion.
The Ruling House gets to stay in charge, the Terrans, Rovinar and Kavarians get their laws and rights, everyone is happy.

From the Rovinar perspective it all seems like it should work, but Humans and Dro'all don't always react in ways that make sense to them. Most of the time they make up for it via their intelligence networks.

Some that Sonia has had dealings with have been bewildered by her greed, materialism, and need for the Rovinar to owe her.

>cont

>>42613877
I finally caught up after two months of reading! For House and Dominion!

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They didn't predict that the Terran Expeditionary fleet, which had been acting more like fleets of generation ships for ages and had been fighting the Dominion just as long, would refuse to cooperate. The Terran Civil War happened, the Ruling House poured resources into supporting the Terran Federal forces and weakened itself to the point where the other Houses could act. Then the Kavarians rose up in the ensuing chaos.

Some of the finer points of that may be adjusted slightly but that's the general idea.

>>42614114
"Well I'm glad that despite everything House Kharbos is still interested in trying new things, including allowing people of other species to become members of the nobility."

"Yes, it's actually one of the things that has allowed us to recover some of our strength recently. The support of a Former South Reach Warlord is considerable."

Oh shit, they're the ones who convinced that other Warlord to join the Dominion. Both you and operatives of the Ruling House had had close to zero contact with one warlord who had come over.

"Regardless of any decisions I wonder if you'll consider staying on world for awhile still? There will be few enough nobles on Rioja for any of the upcoming balls and get togethers. I'm also interested in discussing the possibility of research programs with House Kharbos when there is time."

"Certainly Madam. I've been assigned to Rioja to assist with any possible alliances between our Houses large or small."

"On that, what is Kharbos' view of our House?"

"The potential is there to become one of the more powerful middle Houses. Your elite forces are top tier, it's just the overall fleet strength and size of your potential army that could hold you back. With this recent Erid acquisition that could alleviate most or all of the immediate manpower burdens you might have otherwise faced."

>Cont

You try to remain polite while continuing the conversation all the while making sure that you're not committing yourself to joining their side.
Much like the other Major Houses, Kharbos is offering access to new tech and designs that could be useful in the long term. New assault corvettes and Frigates based off the same hulls, new starfighters, and a few other projects they're trying to make deals with others to get hold of.
The newer Dominion Fast Battleship was intended to eventually be used by all Houses so the design is spreading quickly. Eventually you won't need to go to the Ruling House for it.

>>42614126
>So how are we supposed to trust Kharbos to rule the Dominion when the most recent example of their House's leadership resulted in Gesaur?
"As I said, that wasn't the work of our House leadership at the time. Despite that it was decided that it would be best for many of the upper echelons to retire as soon as possible."

"What happened to Count Earnesto Leroit?"
"I believe he's confined to a military base, though doing what I don't know. I do know that he was reduced to Knight Captain, but even that title is only a formality since all of his lands were seized as reparations."

[ ] If you want a chance at those reforms support Ber'helum
[ ] Back the Ruling House, things may change if
[ ] I'll consider backing Kharbos if... (what?)
[ ] We'll talk more later.

>>42616081
>[ ] We'll talk more later.
What's House Kharbos' opinion and current stance on the Neeren war?

>>42616081
[X] We'll talk more later. {Insert someone else's great explanation and converse with other diplomats to get their views if we haven't already.}

>>42616159
Seconding this approach.

Maybe broaden the question slightly to say what is House Kharbos' opinion of all of the current major factions and megacorps?

Typing up stuff for the next diplomat but changed my mind and decided to post this first.

>>42616159
All three Houses bothering to talk to you support the Factions Alliance and the job they're doing.

Last to be called in is the diplomat from the Ruling House. Lord Xebaim gives the impression of your typical older Dro'all, that is a bit heavy set. You're tempted to ask what it would take for them to simply abdicate in favour of another House Ruling for the Dominion but you suspect that wouldn't go over well.

"I suspect you'll have many questions. I'm aware that both of my competitors have spoken to you before me, but keep in mind that each of their Houses wish to take our place."

>What questions do you have for the diplomat?

See you in the morning!

>>42617164
"Well lord Xebaim I suspect your oratory skills and political savvy dwarf my own so why don't you speak on the ruling house's perspective on recent events and their opinion on our house and your competitors. I'll try to keep up the conversation but no promises. And regarding your competitors don't worry overmuch, while interesting that isn't nearly the same as convincing. Though it is always tempting to completely agree with someone in the extreme on simply diplomatic 'feelers' just to see the shock and confusion on their faces. Shame that saying just joking wouldn't avert the fallout from such statements."
Be polite, keep it light and jovial. Extend the same invitations and courtesies that we did to Compton.

>>42617164
What does the Ruling House think about our tactical acquisition of House Erid space? Also (in as nice as possible a manner) ask why the other seven houses don't fully respect them? I get that everyone wants to be on top of the heap, but is it just because everyone of the other houses thinks they are weak? Or is there something else at play there?

Ooh and what would they have to offer us for allying with them? Since we already pretty much openly support them since they kinda sorta covered our ass during the little escaped with House Erid.

What are they unofficially planning to do about Aries and other outside forces trying to affect internal politics? I would hate to see the Dominion become a puppet government like the Kavarian government. Maybe make that a point for the ruling house to start approaching the other houses and making sure to stamp out any outside influences?

(Yeah WE know the Ruling House is starting a secret organization to deal with the likes of Aries, but what about all the other megacorps out there who have significant foot holds in Dominion space?)

How willing would they be to hearing our crazy tech ideas and putting them into R&D and getting them done? I'm sure we still have plenty that our houses R&D just cant manage right now that the Ruling House likely can.

(On another note. On the off chance we feel like being insane enough to trust any of these diplomats. Should we suggest the idea of looking into making our own brand of SP Torps? Called BS Torps.)

>>42617421
>(On another note. On the off chance we feel like being insane enough to trust any of these diplomats. Should we suggest the idea of looking into making our own brand of SP Torps? Called BS Torps.)
You, I like you. Way too risky to do, especially as we'd be working with out of house elements, even more leaks. That would be a matter for the big Jerik-Dremine themselves to decide. Still sad we won't be able to bombard the enemy with bs. Personally though I would install additional sensors with a focus on visual acquisition so we could name the torpedoes Ocular Penetrators

>>42617164
> house and dominion:laaaaaaaaaaaate nite edition

What are the perks of being ruling House? It barely seems worth the effort.

I also think we shouldn't make this decision based solely on the sales pitch of one f these guys. We should give our political analysts some time to have a thorough look at the situatoon

> kharbos
Have these guys put some kind of system in place to prevent things like Gesaur in the future?

What happened to that noble we let escape so we could avoid politics? I think he was from kharbos.

I still think it's an absolute nightmare for the dominion that these houses are at odds.

The ruling house let us get away with some crazy ideas like house veritas, and their knights errant have provided some valuable support to Sonia during her early career. They also supported the FA right from the start instead of simply delaying any significant commitment until shallan space had fallen. Unfortunately, they appear incredible inflexible at times. Erid and posat only fell as hard as they did because the ruling house didn't account properly for the situation where smaller or less well off houses ended up losing a large percentage of their ships in fleet actions for the ruling house. Instead of giving them time to recover and perhaps some additional support for services rendered, it seems the ruling house started cutting support the second they couldn't contribute actively to the fight. That's kinda worrying. They're also wasting lot of potential by limit nobles to two species.

I really have no idea how winifred managed to get them to agree to the veritas deal.

>>42617164
How do they intend to deal with Aries and the Houses they have convinced to sell out.

How do they intend to stop Aries from doing it to begin with without weakening the Dominion in the process.

What are their plans for the Dominion in the future. Both for Dominion space and for the other factions.

>>42619156
>I really have no idea how winifred managed to get them to agree to the veritas deal.
The power of headaches is strong in Winifred. She can do anything.
That aside I still see very little reason to support the Ruling House at the moment. Ber'helum seems like the better choice for a stronger Dominion with a proper RH. Especially with us right there with them to take part of the glory and cash in on us having helped them.

I don't get why people think that a unification of the two houses is such a bad idea. Sure if they are not up for it, it obviously won't work, but making one of the current Ruling House and the currently strongest House militarily to avoid Civil War seems exactly like the kind of back-room politicking the Dominion is all about. And let's not pretend this is all about dynastic pride or some nonsense like that, we just took over the majority of a rival house and the majority seems to not mind.
Basically what I have in mind is a recreation of the wedding between Isabella I of Castille and Ferdinand II of Aragon, which lead to the creation of Spain. That would mean both houses designate an heir, those marry and within one succession you have one family that jointly rules both Houses, leading to an integration of them. BAM Civil War avoided.

But I guess we're not even going to attempt to stop the needless slaughter of thousands and rather risk the war effort against the Neerans. (Why don't we get into contact with them while we are at it, I'm sure they'd love to throw some oil on the fire, we might get some goodies)

>>42620041
What part of "Neither House will agree to it barring clear and immediate threat to survival of Dominion" you fail to understand?

Ber'helum rep explicitly said that they consider current Ruling House incompetent and unsuited for their role.

The biggest problem with the Ruling House, and why i think they need to be given the boot, is that they always look out for their own interests first over the ones of the dominion. They don't do this because they are unusually selfish, but because their weak position forces them to always look towards strengthening themselves if they want to keep their position.

You see that in the recent Aries crisis: Instead of supporting us and shutting Ukalah down hard and giving Aries a stern kick in the buttocks they decided to let them pull their little hostile acquisition of Dominion territory because they were scared. If Ukalah had defeated us the Ruling House would have done fuck all, except maybe sometime in the future attempted to add Erid to their own domain.

Pretty much everything that went wrong in the centuries after the Faction War can be laid at their feet. A powerful Ruling House capable of projecting power beyond having to wrangle internal politics would never have a bunch of pirates grow into Warlords capable of taking the South Reach territories from the Dominion.

And right now we are at war. They just aren't capable of keeping the Dominion united against the Neeran. They don't have the power. Every single Greater House seems to be against them. We shouldn't be supporting the house that looks most likely to loose the civil war.

>>42620109
Oh well, good that there isn't an intergalactic war on against an enemy that has vastly superior technology and that has already meddled in Dominion internal politics.
I'm so relieved now.

>>42620041

>unification of the two houses is such a bad idea

Well, it seems to take dire circumstances (like both Houses being tiny and on the verge of being destroyed) or outright conquered for Houses to merge.

Neither the Ruling House or Ber'Hulem seems to think they're in a position that would necessitate a merger.

Or they could just not care for the cluster fuck that would be their crippling internal politics resulting from such a merger. They'd probably end up going ful Game of Thrones within weeks.

>>42620130
>decided to let them pull their little hostile acquisition of Dominion territory because they were scared.
Not scared. According to Ber'helum, RH wants Aries to invest more into subversion project before they sweep in and confiscate everything, simultaneously weakening opposition (since Aries seems to invest mostly into anti-RH and neutral Houses) and strengthening their own position.


>They just aren't capable of keeping the Dominion united against the Neeran.
Honestly, I am willing to overlook a lot of things in the name of pragmatism and expediency. Sucking up to ultraconservatives, backroom deals, meddling into affairs of other Houses... Ultimately, all of this is a standard politicking.

But this? Yeah, it is an deal-breaker.

What really worries me is a distinct possibility that neither potential replacement is also strong enough to herd the houses effectively.

I hope we can broker alliance between Ber'helum and Kharbos. This combination should be strong enough.


>>42620831
Apparently they do not consider it a severe danger. And, personally, I agree with them - Neeran Empire is not going to xenocide the Dominion or even break it apart. Most sensible choice for Neerans would be setting a puppet or even themselves as Ruling House.

Has there been a ruling house in dominion history that realised they cannot lead their faction properly any more nd simply handed the position to the most competent house in exchange for economical and political goodwill. Maybe it's time for the one we have now to do the Same? It seems they have barely managed to hold their position for some time now.

>>42621652
>Has there been a ruling house in dominion history that realised they cannot lead their faction properly any more nd simply handed the position to the most competent house in exchange for economical and political goodwill. Maybe it's time for the one we have now to do the Same? It seems they have barely managed to hold their position for some time now.


That would be a interesting solution. The Emperor would have to be willing to basically name a person from another house heir, on that is or is to become the ruler of say Ber'helum or Kharbos or Helios or something similar and gradually transfer position of imperial authority to the new Ruling House in exchange for perhaps a few favorable deals, all on a case by case basis of course.

Basically becoming a firesale instead of a civil war, as long as we can keep the process without violent clashes.

>>42618722
>What happened to that noble we let escape so we could avoid politics?
Knight Ia'sro Kharbos.
>With luck you will never have to deal with him ever again.
Officially reprimanded for stirring up trouble. Placed under house arrest as a result of repeated escapes from the military brig they'd thrown him into, mostly because of the lack of fine dining.
Won a "duel" that involved him using a holosword and the opponent using a live pistol. Was actually commended for having foiled an assassination as a result.
Defeated a smuggling operation shipping wines from a particular world that were banned. Later found to have stolen half the smuggler's stock.

There are other incidents but you may be getting the idea.

There has been talk of sending him to the Factions Alliance but they may not want him.

>>42623051
Sounds familiar. I wonder if he likes sharks?

And they actually want to be rid of him instead of putting him to productive use?

>>42623170
We are not recruiting him.

>>42623051
>Knight Ia'sro Kharbos.
Are you running a second quest featuring that guy as the PC Somewhere?

"The current Ruling House has worked for decades to create a stable framework for the many Houses of the Dominion to work together and resolve differences more easily. It's not always successful but it has proven to work better than the previous dynasty after the Faction Wars.

You're not old enough to remember this but there were a series of wars your House assisted us with, one of which I believe your father served in. Those were all attempts to overthrow the Ruling House, preventing us from sending the necessary resources to combat the rise of the South Reach League.
Ultimately those "civil wars" failed at their intended purpose.

It is true we're not clearly the single most powerful House in the Dominion right at this moment, but at worst we're top four. We have the established infrastructure to quickly recover from the Neeran War once it ends. Can the same be said for Ber'helum or Kharbos? Ber'helum may be powerful at the moment but it might not be possible for them to recover as quickly from a serious loss."

>>42617406
>their opinion on our house and your competitors
"A useful ally. We haven't forgotten the aid and contributions given during the Warlords Campaign. It's unfortunate that we were not in a position to act more quickly in regards to the House Erid situation. Rest assured that had you been forced to sign over your outer Colonies to House Erid the Ruling House had every intention of returning those and many of House Erid's worlds once we launch our upcoming campaign."

>Ber'helum
"Militarily powerful but often unwilling to rein in their allies. They tend to favour non-intervention when it comes to the internal problems or policies of other Houses. Not unless they have personal connections that is.
They're more active against external threats but that didn't stop them from abandoning several of their minor allies during the last Warlord raids to save their strength for the upcoming campaign.

It shouldn't need to be pointed out that we sent a Heavy cruiser to help defend Loran II from the pirate Warlords and they posed a much more significant threat compared to the likes of Baron Ukalah.

House Kharbos is still recovering from their change of leadership and the loss of territory around Gesaur years ago. As usual they hope to overcome any weaknesses they may have with the use of new or experimental technologies. I believe you saw first hand the result of that line of thinking.

>J-D Takeover of Erid
"Again it's unfortunate. We did what we could with limited sanctions once open conflict broke out. Aries reinforcements had to be sent by slower routes as a result to avoid public backlash.
It was generally decided that we could give you the week before we would be forced to implement a blockade. To do otherwise would be seen as shirking our responsibilities. If you couldn't win within the week then a proper resolution would have to wait. Your Earl was aware of this.

Now that it is over and much of their House peacefully incorporated into your own things have worked out for the best. We have no intention of pressing sanctions that some of your opponents have been pushing for or attempting to conduct on their own. House Eminia has talked of blocking all trade along routes into your space but for now we've convinced them that blocking any trade beyond their own will have wider repercussions."

>>42619156
>it seems the ruling house started cutting support the second they couldn't contribute actively to the fight.
"On the contrary, we offered House Erid increased financial and military training support after the battles for the Pandora cluster but only if they continued to support the Factions Alliance. Instead they decided to follow the examples of several other Houses and stopped all support for the War effort.
We had little choice but to cut them off so that resources could be directed to those willing to continue."

>Cont

TSTG, check your !!s.

>>42624083
Well, It seems I'm getting a new trip today. This will be the last post with my old trip.

Honestly I expected to screw this up ages ago. Will post on the wiki to confirm new trip.

>>42624032
"Much of the problems House Possat faced were internal management. Their attempts to Re-terraform Rioja and prevent it's atmospheric conditions from deteriorating to an irreparable point drained them of funds. Everything else that happened to them, the loss of worlds and salvage sites in the Run, only compounded that problem.
They had already spent a considerable amount buying the region from House Sulos. It's unfortunate they didn't inform us of the problem before it was too late to fix."


Testing new Trip.

>>42624143
So… reasoning behind your old trip?

>>42624032
I wish the houses could just get along…

Anyway: I think the only way to solve this relatively peacefully would be merge any two of the contenders and hope that Helios supports the now strongest house.

Second best option would be to get two or three houses allied together and then sort out their leadership diplomatically.

I think Kharbos would be a possible merging partner for everyone, because they want to stay relevant no matter what and are somewhat desparate.

For our house and Sonia, Ber'helum would be the best new Ruling House, because of how favourable they are to us. We also have enough clout with them to significantly influence them if we play our cards right.

So my over-all very rough plan would be to get those two to merge under the official lead of the highest Ber’helum noble, while also allowing the Kharbos nobles to keep the same level of power. If this isn’t possible, I’d like the two of them to at least ally with Kharbos supporting Ber'helum as the new Ruling House.

Any opinions on this?

>>42624238
House and Dominion, lunch edition! Thank the good man for his time, then, invite all three to a non formal lunch and just act like normal people! Seriously the air is getting so thick with suckupitood I don't know how these people can breath and no it has nothing to do with Rioja's atmosphere.

Seriously, just invite them all to lunch. Thank all of them for their time in coming to visit you and giving you such an amazing opportunity and for playing a large part in us getting here. But now we're at the point where everything we do is held against us. (In as polite a way as possible of course.)

We need time to look over our options and decide where we, Sonia Reynard, Baron of Rioja, of House Jerik-Dremine stand with all of them. Kharbos and the Ruling House are pretty cool and Karbos still has that black mark against them for Gesaur. Even if it wasn't with permission by their ruling nobility it was still done in their name and if it had actually turned out to actually work in a good way for them you know they would have approved of it no matter how unethical it was. (I cant help but picture that lord as a Sansha Kuvakei of this setting.)

>>42624340
No. STAP

>>42624340
The odds of convincing two of the most powerful Houses in the Dominion to merge seem... very bad.

JD has absorbed the odd Posat and most of Erid due to the two Houses collapsing, and JD doesn't seem to have dealt with all the problems from the merger of Houses Jerik and Dremine. (Mostly Dro'all v Human political stuff we've seen and played on once or twice)

Now mix the political storms of two Major Houses into 1 big political storm. You'd probably end up with either a weaker Ruling House or a powder keg of one.


>>42624015
>>42624032
>>42624238

Out of curiosity, were the folks caught up in the JD coup attempt what would be considered the Ruling House's "traditionalist" target demographic?

>>42624692
>The odds of convincing two of the most powerful Houses in the Dominion to merge seem... very bad.
I agree, but I think pushing for it itself is not as bad. I fully expect that the best we will get will be an alliance, but we should aim for as tight a cooperation as possible.

I also fully expect there to be quite a lot of mid-term and long-term fallout, even if we miraculously manage a tight alliance or even a merger.

Basically, I think the only even remotely possible option for this is with with the two houses I mentioned. And I realize even that is very very remote.

>>42624340
I think the problem with having two houses merge is that people would see it as a loss of tradition and independence. It would also change existing structures and people are never too fond of that....

I'd love to find a smart solution but I just can't come up with one..

I don't like the new trip but it's too late to remove the screwed up posts and they'd still be view able on one of the archive sites. Oh well.

>>42624340
>So… reasoning behind your old trip?
I figured I'd go with the most random thing I could think of at the time, but might stand a chance at remembering, which was the Bill Cosby Pokemon Rap.

The merger between Jerik-Dremine is considered rather atypical. In most cases one of the Houses will cease to exist in a merger choosing the stick with the more prestigious title among the two. Most Houses will accept a reduction in size or strength rather than ceasing to exist though some may find it more advantageous.
A merger has never occurred between the major Houses except for the formation of the fourth(?) dynasty Ruling House which was the first to introduce FTL travel.

Alliances are much more common because they can always be broken at a later time. These can be secured by marriage or a number of ways.

>>42624692
>were the folks caught up in the JD coup attempt what would be considered the Ruling House's "traditionalist" target demographic?
Almost certainly since they opposed Winifred and her support of the continued free elections and the like in South Reach.

>>42624957
Might want to ask about their traditionalist leanings. After all, the argument can be made that deliberately keeping the Kavarians out of the halls of power for so long prevented their successful assimilation and bit the dominion in the ass big time. Or at least kept the dominion from gaining a few Kavarian houses like they have humans.

>>42624238
A question for the Ambassador of the RH: Does he happen to know the person who was responsible for granting us the Outstanding Unit Award? We haven't been able to get the time to see who exactly we impressed in the ruling house.

>>42624624
I tend to agree that maybe getting them all together might be a good idea. We might think about handing the invitations personally in case we want to do any last minute deals.

I personally think the Ruling House staying where it is is most likely the best thing that could happen at this time. Anyone else becoming the RH while the Neeran War is going on will mean a reshuffling of power at a time when the Alliance can't afford loss of Dominion Support. A Civil war will just weaken the Dominion, but if it does happen then there should be as few sides as possible (On the grand scale).If somehow, someway, the RH, Kharbos, and Ber'helum could reach a understanding that at this time if a Civil War breaks out and it isn't crushed swiftly then that will mean less support for the Neeran War. If pushed to the point where there is a prolonged civil war The Alliance might find there will be no Dominion support and knowing the Neeran this is exactly when they will launch their next offensive.

As three supporters of the Neeran War they should at least have an alliance because they understand what happens if the Neeran threat represents and if a Civil war does break out if they had a united front then it could be squashed more quickly than if they were separated.

>>42624957
>and the like in South Reach

Can we ask the RH's diplomat about the Surekah fiasco and their stance on that?

And this 'infrastructure to quickly recover from the Neeran War' the Royal Logistics Corps? We should have the standing to hear more about this plan, especially if they're touting it as one of their major selling points.

and can he expand on the comments about Ber'helum's "non-intervention"? From what I can recall, the Ruling House has only really intervened to help place some of their own supporters into power via coups or to try and prevent a horrible breakdown of Posat's holdings.

While they did support us with that Heavy Cruiser over Loran II during our time as a trainee, isn't that basically a requirement if you want to maintain a vassal-ally?

>Diplomat considering Kharbos' sales pitch valid

We should laugh about that. Heartily. We'll probably grow a fine mustache in the process, just because Kharbos is silly.

>>42625388
If that isn't good enough we can also attempt to fix our relationship with Helios and the cooling laser tech might just be enough to get them in our good graces again while also using it as a bargaining chip with Ber'helum for a joint research project with House Helios if they will support the Ruling house.

Hell, we could do the same with House Kharbos as they are all up for experimental technology, but there was something last thread that we might could use to have them do the same.

Lastly, Lord Xebaim wants you to be aware of what will happen if another House comes to rule the Dominion.

"Much of that framework we have built up will be lost and it could take years for the next dynasty to build up a replacement network. There is also legitimacy to consider. We hold the capital.

At the very least I must suggest you not support Kharbos. The upheaval and disruption of society that would be seen would be more destructive than any civil war.

We have the potential to get better."

You point out the situation with the megacorps and how it has been allowed to reach an unacceptable point.

"Houses can mobilize their militaries much more quickly than outsiders as your own House proved. They can accomplish in days what might take the likes of Aries weeks or months to prepares for. We have tried to keep quiet to avoid tipping off Aries or the others when they still had enough time to prepare. We have been readying the logistics to support all Houses that will oppose them which should significantly shorten a campaign and the damage to the Dominion.
Once we are ready only then were the minor Houses to be informed. Enough time for them to launch but not for the corporations. It is still possible, but your war with Erid and the Aries forces there may make things more difficult now.

Once the situation with the Megacorps has been handled I hope you'll see that we have been acting in support of the Dominion as a whole."


>>42625351
"The previous dynasty attempted several times to establish Kavarian Houses, they would always fail or collapse in some way. Thanks to historical research we've learned that rebels and in particular the Iratar Exiles may have played a larger part in sabotaging such attempts that took place before the Faction wars.
It drove a wedge between the Kavarians and the others in the Dominion, while strengthening the separatist movement."

>>42616016
>bewildered by her greed, materialism, and need for the Rovinar to owe her.
What do they consider desirable in life?

can we get the answers to "species/faction, what's best in life?"

>>42625883
Fair enough. I just want the ambassador to understand that our position is that for a society to be successful in the long run requires people in society to believe that they can further themselves under that society's rules. An oppressed minority, especially a closed oppressed minority is an eternal threat to the stability of a society. That isn't really a problem for the ruling house or the dominion as a whole currently, but to Houses such as J-D who have decent nonhuman, non-Dorell populations its a significant long term threat unless we can co-opt them. Do you believe you could convince some of your more conservative backers that reasonable exceptions can be made for Houses who frankly have that issue?

>>42625883
Do they know which genius in Aries managed to convince their bord of directors to attempt this plan to take over dominion houses?

>>42625883
"It took a powerful Ruling House to protect the early Terran Houses or they might have faced similar problems. Kavarian territory was initially too vast for them to provide that same level of protection.

If we gain in strength it may become possible to try again but until then many Houses want to follow what is known to work and cause as little chaos as possible."

>>42625546
>Can we ask the RH's diplomat about the Surekah fiasco and their stance on that?

"An extremely uncomfortable situation for all involved. I'm not sure if there was a solution that wouldn't have offended someone. There are Houses that follow more democratic leanings. Your House is one of the few with a mixed approach with different laws and values on different worlds. That is bound to cause problems on other worlds in your House eventually.
But you'd made an agreement with the population years ago and was one that needed to be upheld. Just remember that future rebellions in your House may start as a result of it.

Ber'helum might not assist you against an internal revolution unless you were to personally go to them for aid."
"And you would?"

"That is always a difficult question to answer when it comes to internal conflicts. Provided you were attempting to uphold the values of the Dominion at large and its system of nobility, it would be easy for us to bring you aid."

>And this 'infrastructure to quickly recover from the Neeran War' the Royal Logistics Corps?
Yes. They have good positions to maintain supply lines in many areas and help threaten others. The current Ruling House could cut off the most direct Relays to South Reach. If you wanted more specifics they could blockade Rioja from both directions since they hold a key system inside the Run.

>>42626383
At this point I'm more worried about the mega corps trying to get their greedy hands on control of more houses within the dominion and eventually trying to usurp power from the Rulling House and putting their own puppet governement in place. We don't need to end up like the Kavarians.

Also I have no intention of supporting Kharbos, not after Gesaur. They may be a major house, but they strike me as most likely to deal with a mega corp if it will make them better. So yeah they have nothing to fear of us supporting Kharbos.

I'd rather Ber'helum and Ruling House work together in an alliance like others have suggested. And have them both in a position to strengthen the framework that the Ruling House has in place. Support the two of them in an alliance.

Also, don't poke the bear! No need for a display of power. :/

>>42626364
They don't know but Aries income stream has increased by orders of magnitude since it began. Even if they lose they'll still have made more money than they would have in the next 70 years.

>>42626257
>An oppressed minority, especially a closed oppressed minority is an eternal threat to the stability of a society. That isn't really a problem for the ruling house or the dominion as a whole currently, but to Houses such as J-D who have decent nonhuman, non-Dorell populations its a significant long term threat unless we can co-opt them.
>Do you believe you could convince some of your more conservative backers that reasonable exceptions can be made for Houses who frankly have that issue?
While not easy it could be done over time. It might be possible to quickly push through more limitied changes if they had sufficient backing.
If House Kharbos supported them they would be obligated to implement some basic reforms in return.


So, do you guys want to get all 3 diplomats together at this point?

>>42626624
Invite them to lunch!

>>42626558
>I'd rather Ber'helum and Ruling House work together in an alliance like others have suggested.
Not going to work, Ber'helum rep implied that they think that RH is filled with drooling incompetents. Same with RH's opinion of it's rival.

>>42626682
This is bad, bad idea, and likely to backfire and be taken as an insult.

Lets do this!

So uh... the archive is beyond huge, and I lack a few months time to comb through it all. The pastebins seem a bit out of date for that many threads. Any chance for a TLDR?

>>42626624
Would this be possible as a way to avoid a civil war?>>42621885 Basically selling of the royal infrastructure to the next dynasty thus ensuring a stable transition, and enriching the Royal house to at least in the top three if not Nr 2 house in the whole dominion, and certainly the most rich and economically significant.

Who knows how long a new dynasty would last, and conserving power to be kingmaker or the next ruling dynasty is perhaps a viable alternative to spending effort trying to hold on to a position that becomes increasingly difficult in the current circumstances.

>>42626624
Ask Daska, Winifred, and Alex before sending out any invitations.

Can we convince other factions to go after Aries for this?

>>42626991
Seems like a terrible idea.

>>42626960
houseanddominion.wikia.com/wiki/Summary_Page

Anyone that want's to contribute to this is welcome to do so. I've been adding pieces to it over the past week or two since it was put up.

I favour Ber'helum mostly. The Ruling House, whatever it's merits is ultimately responsible for our current situation either from lack of will or power. Kharbos seems a little too radical, we need a stabilizing force to make up for the Ruling House, not sweeping changes. Ber'helum knows how to keep the old guard happy while introducing needed changes. Particularly if smaller houses (like us) can demonstrate that these changes work.

Ideally we could get Ber'helum, Helios and maybe Kharbos to work together to replace the Ruling House in some fashion that doesn't involve just killing them all.

>>42625546
>and can he expand on the comments about Ber'helum's "non-intervention"? From what I can recall, the Ruling House has only really intervened to help place some of their own supporters into power via coups or to try and prevent a horrible breakdown of Posat's holdings.

They have a tendency to provide training, equipment and financial support to Houses in need of assistance. They may do so for so many Houses that it's hard to notice at times.
The crews of Majestic, Forbearance and other large ships in your fleet have spent time training on RH Ships. Forbearance can be seen as more of a direct trade after providing a crippled Mega class from South Reach in return for funds and support to get the ship fully operational.

Ber'helum is missing a middle ground between forcing the direct solution and inaction, kharbos seems like an force that should be the eternal number 2 or 3. Dangerous enough to force change but not that powerful to ruin the entire dominion when one of their ideas goes south. The ruling house has even too long in its position to do anything in a way that's not going out of its way to offend nobody and doesn't leave them open to attack. They're good at the kind of stuff where Ber'helum falls short.

>>42626960
You could do it as I did: Treat it as a story. You wouldn’t say "That awesome series is too long, I only want to read the newest book, could you give me a summary of the first dozen volumes?". In fact, the longer the better, as long as the story is good.

>>42627081
>The crews of Majestic, Forbearance and other large ships in your fleet have spent time training on RH Ships
I remember that, it was a pretty neat deal. Still, I think Ber'helum would also act differently if it was in charge of the whole dominion instead of just being a single faction. This sort of thing should come with the job, really.

>>42626960
Read it as times allow it!

TLDR: We are a space noble by the name of Sonia in a feudalistic future society. There are several nations, or Factions, in known space. Ours is the Dominion. All Factions are currently at war with the Neeran Empire, who is wreaking us hard. Our goals include increasing in rank within our noble House, getting money, getting influence, growing our corporation, blowing stuff up, trying not to fuck up, blowing more stuff up and salvaging. Also Shark obsession.

Currently we have just ended a illegal civil war within the Dominion between us and another House and are dealing with the aftermath and the growing problem within the Dominion which will most likely result in a civil war within the entire Faction.

>>42627012
>Ask Daska, Winifred, and Alex before sending out any invitations.
All three tell you not to mention a merger between their Houses. Alliances are A-okay.

"The Ruling House has backed us on many projects and their logistics have been essential in the wars. Others do make good points about them being a bit on the weak side." Winifred tells you.

Alex and Daska are trying desperately to not have a public opinion on the mess until they get their promotions.

>Can we convince other factions to go after Aries for this?
At the moment it would be considered an internal matter by many. The Terrans may not be happy about it and consider Aries to have overstepped their bounds but they haven't violated any of their laws. The Rovinar don't deal with them much. Iratar would probably be the most likely to act for what should be obvious reasons.


As part of your continued efforts you have a number of options.

1) Just get the three Houses to agree to a temporary Alliance until the situation with the megacorps has been handled. They all support the Factions Alliance so it would be best that they didn't waste their resources fighting each other. This will prolong the status quo for now but won't solve the underlying problem. It will resurface.

2) Try to get Kharbos to back Ber'helum. With them Helios may be swayed. The Current Dynasty would have no choice but to eventually abdicate.

3) Try to get Kharbos to back the Ruling House in return for limited reforms. Helios may renew their support for the current dynasty. Ber'helum may not like it but they'll accept an Alliance in the face of a superior force.

Additional missions and objectives will be required to help fulfill each of these but selecting one will help point things in the direction you want to go.

>>42627843
Kharbos and Ber'helum are two really quite large houses.
I vote that the former should back the latter.

>>42627843
>2) Try to get Kharbos to back Ber'helum. With them Helios may be swayed. The Current Dynasty would have no choice but to eventually abdicate.

I like this one the most. If we are lucky then this may not lead to a blood bath within the Dominion. I also think we stand to gain the most from this. Both in standing with the RH, Ber'helum, and in territory gained .

>>42627843
>3) Try to get Kharbos to back the Ruling House in return for limited reforms. Helios may renew their support for the current dynasty. Ber'helum may not like it but they'll accept an Alliance in the face of a superior force.

Pushes through some reforms and gets them all in an alliance. Might also give us a chance to patch things up with Helios.

>>42627843
>2) Try to get Kharbos to back Ber'helum. With them Helios may be swayed. The Current Dynasty would have no choice but to eventually abdicate.

Try to ensure that all important infrastructure remain mostly intact, perhaps by transferring control of them to neutral houses?

>>42627843
Option 1. Sort out the whole mega corps issue, remove neeran, and if they still can find enough people willing to fight after that they're welcome to try whatever they want. We just cannot afford any additional problems while the neeran empire is still a threat.

We should also fix our relations with helios before we make also decision.

>>42627843
>3) Try to get Kharbos to back the Ruling House in return for limited reforms. Helios may renew their support for the current dynasty. Ber'helum may not like it but they'll accept an Alliance in the face of a superior force.

>>42628077
Right now I don't think territorial gains are big on our radar. We are still trying to secure the big swath of territory we just gained after all.

>>42627843
>2) Try to get Kharbos to back Ber'helum. With them Helios may be swayed. The Current Dynasty would have no choice but to eventually abdicate.
Should be and alright option for the dominion and great for our house.

>>42627843
Can't we just get them all to work together? Get them to stop jockying for the head hancho position. Keep the Rulling House as the Ruling House. Yeah, their not the best choice, but really is anyone a good choice at this point with companies like Aries trying to subvert the Dominion? I'm all for the status quo so long as people work together against a common enemy and don't fight each other.

Ber'helum have been really awesome with us. Helping us with R&D on the mobile gravity well projector and other things. But so has the Rulling House in unofficially supporting us against House Erid. Both are pretty awesome, Kharbos is just there. Reminding us of their existence.

Get them into an alliance. Make them realize that they are all working to better the Dominion in their own unique ways. Make them mash together their strengths so as to cover each others weaknesses. The Ruling House is trying to get infrastructure in place to help houses that need it. And Ber'helum has a pretty damn good military strength that they cant afford to lose. It would be common sense they support each other. Once they realize they have more to gain from supporting each other then opposing one another they might 'might' get their collective heads out of their asses.

As for Kharbos, if they want to be of use make them prove it by taking on more R&D to help promote Dominion tech to be better than what it is. If their willing to do questionable shit, make them the R&D egg head house. They have the Tech, Ber'helum has the muscle, Rulling House has the means to support them both and use them to their strengths.

>>42628409
That would be the best thing to do, yes. It's even a pretty reasonable suggestion. So I'm sure people won't let I happen.

What re the perks of being RH by the way ?

>>42628409
>encourage Kharbos to take on more R&D

Dear god man, why would you suggest Kharbos be allowed within galaxies of potentially important R&D? They're quite arguably responsible for the crippling of the Erid fleet before the Expeditionary fleet went after Gesaur.

They've got the moral compass of wizards, but with really, really bad tech ideas mixed in.


That aside, you're basically trying to get them all to ignore what makes the Dominion the Dominion. The game of Dro'all thrones!

>>42628622
I'm going to be "That Guy" and say I hate Game of Thrones. So much senseless killing just to get into a better position of your rivals. If you really wanna prove you're better then your rival than show it by doing your duty as a nobel and going out and smashing in heads of invaders with giant hammers.

>>42628409
I would prefer this as well, but I don’t think it will work for two reasons:
1) Ber'helum tasted blood. They think they have a shot at becoming the Ruling House and they won’t ever let go of that until something drastically changes.
2) The current Ruling House has ever solidifying issues because of their inflexible traditions and bad alliances. These would need to be solved, which would be incredibly hard.

>>42628718
Sense when have we taken the easy way in doing things? We do things fast and hard! Though yeah it would be hard as all get out to solve the Rulling Houses issues. So we help them get some of their shit straightened out while also showing some of our own strengths and making a name for ourselves.

As for Ber'helum tasting blood... yeah I don't know how to refocus their desire to becoming ruling house outside of pointing them at the nearest foe that is an enemy of the Dominion and having them show to everyone else that they are the better choice then the current Ruling House.

Bow much would picking the ruling house ruin things with ber'helum for sonia?

Ber'helum Helios JD cooling laser combo team for ever and ever a hundred years.

>>42628409
Then your best bet is the first option in that case.

>Kharbos
>make them the R&D egg head house
Other Houses are nervous enough about the R&D they already do after Gesaur showed a worst case scenario. Giving them more would be like expanding Black Mesa.

This will be on the next survey but I wanted to see which way things are going and if I needed another option.

>>42628918
They might not be happy but they'd be reluctant to abandon all hope of keeping you as a potential ally. You wouldn't be getting any rewards for your loyalty as a result of their conquests.

On to other items of discussion. There was a considerable number of late votes on the shipyards last week and I needed to call it before the Aries drone hacking attacks on them.
As a result of the lost data the House has provided data for the Neeran CX transport fitted with long range FTL. This is one of the few transports capable of safely reaching Watcher space and there are expected to be orders despite the Watchers disliking the idea of Neeran tech entering their territory.
Did anyone want to reopen debate on which shipyard? The only other option based on votes was for an assault corvette line.

>>42627843
3) Try to get Kharbos to back the Ruling House in return for limited reforms. Helios may renew their support for the current dynasty. Ber'helum may not like it but they'll accept an Alliance in the face of a superior force.

>>42629200
>debate on shipyard

I'd just like to throw out an idea I posted a while back, on the topic of shipyards...

Great Devourer's original remaining crew were all specialists from the Errant shipyards that were the basically the best-of-the-best-for-this-ship, right?

Why don't we see if they'd like to start up a shipyard in partnership with Sonia/RSS?

Plasma cannon cult specialists could potentially have important insights into the Shallan Attack Cruiser adding LD plasma cannons, or work with a plasma cannon production/R&D

>>42629200
>Did anyone want to reopen debate on which shipyard? The only other option based on votes was for an assault corvette line.
Not really. The Transport shipyard was the second most valuable of the yards following our conquest of Erid. However since it can now make CX Transports I am abandoning all ideas of trying to argue for the Battleship yard.

>>42629200
Why do the watchers dislike having neeran tech around?

I'm okay with the transport yard. Why tech level do these shipyards have anyway?

> other
Would Sonia be able to get a licence for the FA fast battleship if she guaranteed something like 75% of the production to the alliance?

>>42627843
1

>>42629200
Then my vote goes for option one.

Only, House Kharbos takes on a FA equivalent watcher from Ruling House or Ber'helum. To make sure they don't have a repeat of worst case scenario, if that isn't being done already. Kharbos already has the Geasur black spot on its name. I'm sure it wants every opportunity to show its R&D teams are not all like that. Having someone there to verify that they aren't all bad will go towards showing others to trust Geasure. And I don't trust them, not yet. But I really do think they need to be the R&D egg heads. Because coming up with new things and implimenting them seems to be their thing. So outside of us, they would likely be the first to think of something no body else has done yet.

I dislike Kharbos, but I like their desire to pursue advances in places others are not.

>>42629427
>Why do the watchers dislike having neeran tech around?
They're worried it could be tracked back to their space by the Neeran.

>Why tech level do these shipyards have anyway?
Level 3.

>FA fast battleship
No, it's intended to be a restricted tech ship with all sales directly to the Alliance. You can pick some up when leading Alliance fleets but you can't keep them. Well unless you quietly salvage them of course.

>>42629761
Well, that's disappointing. Guess I should have asked that before I spent time on that battleship bow suggestion.

There have been requests for a dedicated point defense ship to help out your larger warships in light of the recent difficulty with Aries tech and need to shoot down incoming warheads.

One of these is for a light ship light the Scarab made into an unmanned point defense drone. Another would be making use of existing manned hull types in the same size range and modifying them. The HAG for instance is already intended to carry plenty of mass driver ammo.

A Light corvette, either designed from scratch or built on an existing frame could potentially carry more point defense systems and might be able to take a few more hits.

There are also larger ships like full sized corvettes and Frigates that could fill the role, but it would be harder for them to dock on the hulls of ships like Battlecruisers.

Your thoughts?

>>42630193
Unmanned starships spell hacking attempts to me. Better they have a small crew who are willing to live on such death traps meant to protect the larger vessels. Of course that's just paranoia talking.

>>42630193
Aren't Kharbos already designed escort corvette and frigate?

Overall, I think either Scarab or HAG will be good starting point for heavy drone; However costs need to be kept low. Since high performance isn't necessary, I think many components can be replaced with lower-grade ones or even civilian equivalent without severely affecting their effectiveness.

>>42630193
they should be as cheap as possible, so I'd say build them unmanned and as drones and have them dock to ships which expect to see need of them.

>>42630193
Refitting a HAG for point defense would probably be our best bet for a quick and easy route. The larger cannons could be turned into oversized high velocity flak weapons whilst the other mounting points could fit repuslor CIWS systems or particle PD.

>>42630193

>your thoughts?

Anything larger than an LST/Scarab for this is wasteful. A corvette or larger that can't defend itself from similar sized vessels is going to end up being wiped out when they end up facing an attack. And eventually, they will. Be it while they're extending the AAA range of a station or ship, or just when one gets under the shields.

Even then, they can't provide effective coverage to the smaller vessels that really benefit from increased PD.

>>42630193
>Your thoughts?
If such can be made to be economical and disposable without suffering the risk of becoming hacked then it sounds good.

I wonder if we however could try to get a design to enhance ECM so that we instead could disable Drones to take them over instead. Seems like a more permanent solution to the problem if a bit more long term.

>>42630193
Another design idea to add. What about decoy missiles such as this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nulka

Nulka launchers are pretty damn effective against modern day missiles that use radar to locate their targets.

>>42630389
>Aren't Kharbos already designed escort corvette and frigate?
Yes, either built off the same hull.

>>42630377
>Unmanned starships spell hacking attempts to me.
>>42630699
>without suffering the risk of becoming hacked
There is always the chance that might happen. People have put a lot of work into making it more difficult for starfighter drones to be hacked.
Your House fleet did not deploy Aries built drones during the battles in Erid space as a precaution.

J-D has some drone tech they've developed based on data of earlier models. It should be different enough from Aries tech to reduce the liklihood of them taking control of it.

>ECM so that we instead could disable Drones
Aries wouldn't be able to sell their drones to the Alliance if ECM could easily take them out.

>>42630888
A holographic ship decoy is an option that might fool sensors. They need enough power that the larger the ship you want to mimic the more powerful the platform you'll need.

Starfighters could mimic corvettes.
Light attack ships and LST's could mimic Attack cruisers or possibly even Battlecruisers.
Attack cruisers could project Medium and heavy cruiser images.
A Battlecruiser could project a hologram of a super heavy cruiser.


Looks like people are interested in modding the HAG. With minimal changes you could fit:

8-10x mass driver turrets
6x particle beam turrets

Either Drone or with a crew of 1-4. Did you want the cockpit modified so it could be swapped out for a drone control system to operate the ship? That would allow you to sell 2 versions off the same basic hull.

>>42627843
>2) Try to get Kharbos to back Ber'helum. With them Helios may be swayed. The Current Dynasty would have no choice but to eventually abdicate.

This honestly is most in character for Sonia given her beliefs and past actions.

It might result in some instability in the short term if the current RH decides to make things difficult. But the Dominion as a whole will experience some reforms and will be stronger in the medium / long term.

>>42627843
3 or 1 is what I would say.

Try to get the Ruling House their support and if that somehow fails try to continue the status quo until the current situation is handled (Though I would rather we not fight each other)

Looking at this this might need to go to a survey maybe if this question takes more time.

>>42631329
I would say yes to the swapping out. Some people might want to crew it themselves and some might want to control it from a distance. Might as well make it so we can sell to both markets.

>>42631329
Not just changeable cockpit, but we should also try to include modular weapon hardpoints as well.

Plus optional ECM/ECCM pods and holo-decoys.

>>42631529
Weapons can be moved around between the different mounts or switched out for different types. A few of them closer to the main magazine could probably fit interceptor missile systems.

>>42631966
>Plus optional ECM/ECCM pods and holo-decoys.
Those are intended to be bolted to the outer hulls of most starships. They might not be able to carry many but it should be possible.

If those are all the changes it should be a relatively simple redesign compared to the HAG.

How many do you think you'll want for your fleet? Approximately 1 per battlecruiser?

>>42632146
>Approximately 1 per battlecruiser?
I believe this is maximum average BC can fit without impacting combat effectiveness.

I'd also like carrier designed to support such drones if possible.

Actually, I wonder if conversion EBON into heavy drone carrier could be useful.

>>42632355
>carrier designed to support such drones

There shouldn't be any reason for this. If a standard support vessel can't rearm this ship/drone, you've got a design flaw.

If you're concerned about deploying them beyond latching onto larger vessels, I'm wondering why. You could also probably deploy at least a dozen of them off a standard Moli if it dropped cargo containers.

We're looking at about 40 million to quickly get them developed and produce the first run of them. Is this okay?

If you're wondering out of your 1 billion you've spent 590 on DHI, the attack cruiser yard with Medel and the plasma facility.
There wasn't a clear cut decision on the freebie option from last week so It has been added to the survey.

Rioja is expanding quickly and it's all the Governor can do to keep the PDF and security forces scaled approriately to maintain order. Your assistance has certainly been a big help. What Rioja lacks though is a ground force you could draw on for operations elsewhere. You have your marines which can quickly overcome opposition in most environments, but they're a small force. They can't afford to hold objectives for long, not without support from orbital forces.

If there is an issue elsewhere in the Run or you're cut off from the homeworlds you should be able to request the assistance of House troops also stationed within the region. It would be much faster if you had a force prepared before hand.

How do you plan to deal with the need for mobile ground forces?

[ ] Request additional ground forces from the House
[ ] Requisition or recruit from other House worlds & bases in the Run
[ ] Hire mercenaries
[ ] Try to boost military recruitment among the immigrants
[ ] Other

>>42633158
>[x] Request additional ground forces from other House worlds & bases in the Run
>[x] Try to boost military recruitment among the immigrants

>>42633158
>[X] Hire mercenaries
To cover immediate need.

>[X] Requisition or recruit from other House worlds & bases in the Run
While waiting for your own forces to be trained.

>[X] Try to boost military recruitment among the immigrants
This will need the time, so two options above to keep us afloat in meanwhile.

>>42633158
[X] Requisition or recruit from other House worlds & bases in the Run
[X] Try to boost military recruitment among the immigrants

Let's get some troops from other bases. To have them come in and train troops from Rioja. Have a 25/75 of troops from other sites/ troops from Rioja. As the people who are from Rioja will have a greater desire to protect their home. Also it gives those people who are having a hard time finding civilian jobs get a good steady military job. (Cue patriotism commercial for Rioja.)

>>42633158
>[ ] Try to boost military recruitment among the immigrants
>[ ] Build high quality munitions and arms factories
>[ ] Requisition or recruit from other House worlds & bases in the Run

Recruiting lots of immigrants should help integrate them better into the planet, especially since they will be defending their new home. Weapons and munitions factories should allow us to easily supply our planet side forces with high quality weapons, such as our own awesome rifle, and would leave us less vulnerable in the event that we are cut off from supplies. Finally since we are surrounded by allied Houses they should have very little problem with us recruiting people to come work on Rioja. The Run will be safer for us and they will benefit from our work here on Rioja in any case.

>>42633158
>[X ] Try to boost military recruitment among the immigrants

>>42633158
[x] Try to boost military recruitment among the immigrants

[x] Other: see if we can't utilize people like Rufario for this objective. "Terran immigrant family gains noble status via service to House. Success Story!"

[x] Other: see about recruiting from South Reach shallan refugee sites?

>>42633158
>Is this okay?
Already voted for the ground forces question but 40m is pretty okay, I'm happy with it, not sure about other players though.

>>42633531
Yes Shallan refugees are another option.

>>42633380
>As the people who are from Rioja will have a greater desire to protect their home.
Those who want to defend their world will have more of an inclination to join the PDF rather than the Army which will see them shipped off world.

There is another option besides those listed. The former Erid military still faces disarray and restructuring work. They're strong enough to help deter invasion from yet another House, but desertion remains high.

You could request transfer of or offer to recruit some of their army. Incentives such as honoring their rank or how many years they've currently served when it comes to pay would help.
Their loyalty could be questionable but they have numbers.

>>42633652
>The former Erid mili-
Noooope. Over my dead body that we put those on our pure innocent planet.

>>42633652
>>42633721
I really like the idea of recruiting from shallan refugees. As for erid former personel I won't rule them out but for mass recruitment that would only be if our other options prove less successful. On a individual basis though we could scout some of their more elite or technically skilled people, helps to have a new force not be absolutely new, at least where it makes a big difference..

>>42633652
I wouldn't be opposed to recruiting from Erid, so long as we don't exceed say a quarter or sixth of our force made from them?

Ideally, we'd focus on people willing to settle on Rioja and with no immediate families. This could actually help with our integration of the Terrans, especially if we secure a number of Erid humans. Sonia has interacted with enough Terrans to know that we can get along, and pro-dominion humans among the population will certainly be a good thing.

inb4 'men/women/Droall of the 1st Riojan [Unit] calendars' [/spoilers]

>>42634094
Special equipment for your ground forces and military.

What sort of numbers do you want to build up of the following:

Heavy Power Armor
Medium Jump Jet Power Armor
Power Cell Armor
Light Power Cell

Any regulars will be equipped with marine grade armored vac suits, some surplus from the House, the rest produced by your factory on Rioja unless otherwise requested.

>>42634626
>What sort of numbers do you want to build up of the following:
All of them? But seriously, how many can we get?

>>42634791
I can't remember, did power armor used to cost 10,000 or 100,000?

>>42634791

Heavy Power Armor (Max 20)
Medium Jump Jet Power Armor (Unlimited but you could only pick up 20 before Ruling House is expected to launch offensive against Aries.)
Power Cell Armor (Unlimited)
Light Power Cell (Unlimited)

Remember that these all require maintenance facilities either on planets or starships to keep them in peak operating condition.

Heavy and medium power armor still cost as much as small starships but you can buy many more than you used to be able to. You might want to limit yourself to a maximum amount in cash.
The 2 heavies you requisitioned are also available.

>>42634957
All power armor due to demand the engineering, time and materials requirements used to cost ten million S. That is still the case for Recon suits and Light jump jet, neither of which you can access right now.

The newer Heavy PA and Medium jump jet are closer to 6 million.

How much money are you willing to spend on armor for your special forces?

>>42634626
What sort of numbers would a typical group infantry [unit size] have of these?

Short term, I'd say that we should aim for several platoons of Power Cell & Light Power Cell. Maybe a squad of Heavy Power and Med Jump Jet?

The real question is what missions we're looking at for this. We could go for an urban specialization and take more special equipment, or go for lighter forces that are more at home in mountainous terrain.

>>42635082
In the old days a division of 10,000 soldiers might have 1-3 suits of power armor among the command officers or Knights assigned to them. Your House wasn't even that fortunate.

Modern Divisions currently used by the House have usually have 50 suits of power cell armor divided up between the assigned special forces.
Keep in mind that most power cell armor in your House are reserved for use by the marines to give them a chance fighting Neeran in boarding actions.

>>42635078
Power Cell Armor (Unlimited)
Light Power Cell (Unlimited)
Well if the House supplies these for free to the Rioja Army then I'd say take as many as we can get.

In either case, 5 Heavy Power Armors and perhaps 10-15 Jump yet?

>>42635239
We should stick to the 50 suits of power cell armor, maybe doubling it to 100 if we're not going to pull resources from the Marine units.

It might be wise to invest in at least a small power cell armor production facility in that base we built on Rioja, and a support facility or two across our fleet.

Then we can begin to equip more power cell armors and have them in proper logistic supply among our forces.

Does the flightpack thing RSS (limited?) produces for RTS people work with power cell armor?

>>42635296
Haha he meant availability, not price (I'm assuming). Asking for a hundred thousand suits of power cell armor would be laughed at. How much would 40mil get us for regular power cell? My thoughts on the issue is because of the price its impossible to have widespread powerarmor of any type, and anyway for most situations buying and actual vehicle with nice guns is cheaper/more practical. Power armor really shines in confined spaces, not necessarily enough to be the king of urban combat but there's one area nothing else can touch: ship boarding. We already have our armsmen and other forces for high end power armor for elite forces. We could always get more but its probably not needed at this juncture. Getting a good amount of power cell armor for semi-elite boarders/troops seems sound. Maybe even a half dozen of the jump medium in the near future for special tasks. Light power cell doesn't strike me as enough of an improvement over marine armor to go with broad distribution, and I'm guessing probably not cheap enough compared to the regular stuff to justify it.

>>42635078
>ten million S
Fuck I really misremembered that one.

>>42635665
>How much would 40mil get us for regular power cell?
800 suits. Light Power cell costs the same.

>>42635492
>Does the flightpack thing RSS (limited?) produces for RTS people work with power cell armor?
It can, just keep in mind you cant pull the same kind of crazy maneuvers with it like you can with the Medium Jump Jet. The extra weight can also impact the range. They're continuing to sell in small amounts.


The ground forces still lack appropriate transport for them and any ground vehicles. HLV's are one of the most common transport types used in a planetary assault. Generally they'll hitch a ride on longer range vessels for transport to or from a target world. Your Command ship could carry HLV's, as could starfighter Carriers, Moli's or a number of others.
Older Factions Frigates and Smuggler Frigate conversions can function as alternatives to HLV's or transports. It should be possible to buy a few cheaply.
One of the Frigate designs proposed by House Kharbos based off the assault corvette hulls is set up for planetary assault.
Another option would be to go with Kavarian Assault Transports which can double as Escort Carriers. They're a bit more expensive though.
Something that most factions haven't done recently is to forego larger troop transports and use larger numbers of LST's for planetary assault.

[ ] HLV
[ ] Factions Frigate
[ ] House Kharbos Assault Frigate
[ ] Assault Transport
[ ] LST


Any other options you can suggest?

>>42635672
Still the best investment we've made.
or rather got the Rovinar to make in us

>>42636217
Question.

What did we end up producing at that Rioja frigate yard? If we're making HLVs or Standard Frigates, those should be the go-to. (I believe both were thrown around as options, but can't recall what actually won the survey? Unless we didn't get the shipyard)

>>42636217
>[x] Assault Transport

>>42636217
>[ ] Assault Transport
Seems like the best option I want nothing if not quality for us. However I question how much we need them right now. We're somewhat strapped for cash right now are we not?

>Any other options you can suggest?
Planetary Assault Barge? Some guns that can hit Planetary Shields. Some Point defense. Lot's of space for mechanized divisions and exterior docking points of HLV's?

>>42636217
> Assault Transport
> LST
Having a few assault transports is worth it, not only for their ability at palnetary assault but also to provide escort carriers. I'm willing to bet having them to shield LSTs for targets that shoot back and air/space interdiction then relaesing them at a lower altitude would be a novel tactic. While we get a few of them Get alot of LSTs. It will allow wide ranging troop dispersal (as opposed to offload whole battalions at single points) and the ability to rapidly redeploy those troops. Between a little direct fire support from the LSTs and Hags, as well as whatever the assault transports can bring it should be awesome. Probably one of the most expensive options but considering our experiences with planetary invasions we know that money will be well worth it.

Guys, guys... crazy idea

What if we looked at recruiting some people from ... Karaa-somethingwhatwasthename.

The world we saved from the crazy Governor's nukes?

It is in the Run, the owning House likely doesn't trust those in the 'rebel' areas, and we could probably enjoy some damned strong hero status among any recruits, and it could strengthen our standing among the Terrans when word spreads of what we did over that world.

iirc, the former rebel population is also facing a bit of a recession?

>>42636578
You're right that is crazy. We enjoy some hero status in other populations, and there's no reason to let infiltrators do their thing. They're an out of house source. Even if they weren't I hope you realize your suggesting hiring firebrand rabble-rousers to come to OUR PLANET WE RULE and not want to institute some revolution (And make no mistake, we're "the man"). At least all of this seems unnecessary when we have better and more faithful sources of recruitment.

>>42636379
>What did we end up producing at that Rioja frigate yard?
In the hours after the attack on the Dreminth orbital facilities the House took control of the empty Frigate yard and began outfitting it to produce assault corvettes. It is now operational as a level 3 yard.
The House paid for the final refit and the production license so officially they're leasing the yard from you.
You have the option to trade ships produced at your yard in South Reach for those built in the Run to help build up your fleet if you want it.

>>42636442
>Planetary Assault Barge?
Battle Barge added to options.

>>42636578
Kaartinen IV. You have deals with them regarding mass driver designs and sales.

As you're not supporting any sort of bid for House Kharbos to become the next Ruling House they may be reluctant to sell you their new Frigate design. If enough people desire to go with it they might be convinced to sell to you in return for an idea.

An anon has been proposing a drone starfighter that uses a stasis fuel cell as its engine and propulsion system. Possibly even weapon systems. This has a number of drawbacks but in theory could produce an interesting craft that might be cheaper than most starfighters.

There are few governments that could make use of the design. The Shallans probably wouldn't be able to spare resources for development. The Rovinar, Aries and House Kharbos are the only ones that stand a reasonable chance at bringing it to an operational state.

Are you guys at all interested in this trade or a joint project?

>>42637104
>Are you guys at all interested in this trade or a joint project?
I'd be interested in a joint project with the Rovinar and/or a trade with Kharbos. More ties with the Rovinar is always good.

>>42637104
I'm okay with trading Karobos for the idea

>>42637104
Lets join in with the Rovinar on this one. Try and show them we value them for more then just their 'favors' for finding their ships. Also exchange with Kharbos, maybe.

>>42636882
We should have lawyers look into the House's little seizure of the site.

With any luck, they rushed something and we can reclaim the facility. Or at least deny them a lease renewal and take possession back with improvements.

>>42637104
unfortunately I'm against providing House Kharbos with anything. Next thing you know they'll try to use it to overthrow the Ruling House.

The Rovinar might be interesting, but then again when things finally go South, we're arming what is likely to be a hostile faction in the coming Faction War take 3.

And Aries is a no-go...

I want to like the idea of what would essentially be a space ME-262 or 163 Komet, but wouldn't you basically have a flying bomb if the stasis systems or the batteries supplying them took a hit?

>>42637448
>We should have lawyers look into the House's little seizure of the site.
>With any luck, they rushed something and we can reclaim the facility. Or at least deny them a lease renewal and take possession back with improvement
Seems dickish.

>>42637572
Considering they're now making money off of our intended shipyard, didn't bother to even ask, and we essentially got blackmailed by our ruler?

It is just good business to see if we can reclaim that site and have the profits for the ships produced their go into our pockets.

>>42637448
>I want to like the idea of what would essentially be a space ME-262 or 163 Komet,
>Me 163 Komet
Yes, that's exactly what it is. That's what it was reminding me of.

>but wouldn't you basically have a flying bomb if the stasis systems or the batteries supplying them took a hit?
Kind of yeah. While it wasn't stated I think that may have also been part of Anon's idea? Ram the drone into a ship and it'll act like a stasis fusion missile.

There is always a risk of the micro fusion drive on a starfighter going up if its hit. Rare but it does happen.

>>42637655
You're making money off the leasing of said yard, and at the time it was considered a state emergency. You were informed of the yard's refit being underway as part of your briefings after Archivald canceled your house arrest.

If you want the House to halt it's emergency wartime production from your frigate yard, or wish to negotiate future lease conditions, you can of course contact the Earl. He'll make time to talk to you ASAP. You are a Baron after all.

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>>42637938
This was supposed to be in the last post.

Here is a proposal for your fleet based our of Rioja. Currently incomplete.
It does not take into account other ships in the Run like Forbearance, just your core force. Would you like to build up to a larger fleet or change its composition?

>>42637837
>it will act like a stasis fusion missile

I am imagining an unholy fusion of a 163 Komet and a Mitsubishi Zero.

Launches fast, potentially has issues with maintaining thrust for long periods of time, and lacks self-sealing fuel tanks. And it is a really, really expensive bomb for ramming ships.

>>42637938
Oh, I'm aware we're making money off the leasing of said yard.

But we're also making less money than planned, unless the House applied a murderous lease agreement to itself and we get a chunk of their profits from the yard.

I'm not saying halt the emergency wartime production, I'm simply saying that if we can legally reclaim the facility and the improvements, we should go for it. Can't let the House go and set up production on our land that could allow it to ween itself off of our corvette production!

At the very least, we should determine our legal footing and then ensure that either we reclaim the site and improvements, or get the best lease deal possible.

>>42638063
Is that a BC squadron or wing? Cause if it's a Squadron I would like to add about 2 more of them. They are damn useful and I want as many of them as we can get for when we take these babies on an expedition fleet trip. Alpha strike all the time. Gimme those Athena Class!

Besides that, and the lack if Heavier support ships, this fleet looks good as a start. Ofcourse we will have to add to it at the first and best possible time.

It is monster sized survey time.

surveymonkey com/r/ MGKHTXR

Lots of questions and it will stay up for some time. Game will be running tomorrow for part of the day at least. Have some paperwork I really need to fill out before going into work tuesday.

Scheduling for H&D will become chaotic after that as it looks like I only have single days off at a time for the foreseeable future and I do need to start some online courses soon-ish in case my job has no hours for me in the new year.

>>42638276
>Is that a BC squadron or wing?
Squadron, specifically your command squad. BC's are too expensive to organise by wing.

>Cause if it's a Squadron I would like to add about 2 more of them.
Available designs for purchase:
South Reach Fast Battleship (J-D Custom)
Dominion Fast Battleship
Gungnir type & upgrades
Kavarian Support Battlecruiser
Athena Class BS (Limited numbers, limited equipment options)

Keep in mind that when equipped with modules the Athena masses much more than the Fast Battleships and isn't as mobile. Your Fast Medium should be able to out run it.

>>42638213
I'd prefer to hold off on that for now honestly. Wait six months or so to renegotiate or terminate the lease.

Before I forget: Tes'us promotion

>>42638667
With you being based out of the new command ship Tes'us is once again acting captain of The Great Devourer.

Would you like to officially promote her to captain or some other rank? There are ones above and below it, many that wouldn't threaten the J-D Admirals.

>>42638807
Officially promote the good woman and anyone else on the ship who needs it. Why have we not done this already?

>>42638631
I'm fine with holding off on the actual legal move or negotiation with the Earl for six months or so.

I'd just like to have the lawyers start reviewing everything so we know what our standing is now. There could be a time limit to our ability to move, and it helps to have the case quietly reviewed before we make our move or seek to renegotiate the lease.

>>42638667
>>42638807
I could have sworn we did a field promotion to 'an appropriate' rank for Tes'us and the rest of the crew during the downtime after our attack on the Zeus. (for their respective positions on a battlecruiser)

>>42638807
I know Tes'us is technically from a different house, but we could grant them a small parcel of land on Rioja, yes?

>>42638933
Found it!

archive.moe/tg/thread/42029954/#42079632

>>42638807
How are the Admirals structured anyway?
Also, while doing so now is a poor decision, I do want to quietly look into asteroid fortress design for Rioja. Its a well placed chokepoint that with the proper screening is almost impossible to slip past. Which makes fortifying it a good move.

>>42638850
Well with the Erid thing people wanted to wait.

>>42639161
>>42638933
>I could have sworn we did a field promotion to 'an appropriate' rank for Tes'us and the rest of the crew during the downtime after our attack on the Zeus.
Then we're making it an official one. With dress uniforms and maybe some awards for everything they've been doing over the years. Dress uniforms for everybody?

>>42639159
>we could grant them a small parcel of land on Rioja, yes?
Absolutely.

>>42639181
>How are the Admirals structured anyway?
They usually are in an advisory position to the Barons. An admiral or general will normally be assigned to a full carrier group. Which reminds me, you should be getting at least one Admiral to aid your fleet. They'll help to keep the fleet organised along with the executive officers when you're not present. Working on the day to day things while the Knight Commanders and Barons deal with the more important stuff.

Your House is a bit small so there have not been as many around and as a result I keep forgetting about them.
Captain Tama on the EBON should be an Admiral by now if he wasn't already awhile back.

>>42639424
>Dress uniforms for everybody?
Absolutely.

Tes'us's been a big help to us the entire time.

>>42639424
>official promotions
Is there something between a Captain and a General? And is Tes'us fleet or strike?

Tes'us has certainly earned a position to act as one of our advisors, even if we can't promote to a suitable rank for the position without ruffling feathers.

>executive officers
That reminds me! Poor Kavos.

>Captain Tama

We should probably look into Tama's records and how they ended up commanding EBON. After the whole Fox thing biting us in the ass.

Some day!

>>42639764
>Is there something between a Captain and a General?
A Fleet Captain or a Commodore. They're not used often but they exist.

>And is Tes'us fleet or strike?
Battlecruisers fall under Fleet by the Alliance system.

You can give Kavos land if you want. He probably just wants to enjoy his couple of years of retirement such as it is.

>We should probably look into Tama's records and how they ended up commanding EBON.
You were told when he was assigned. He was a Carrier captain who lost his ship during the Lat'tham coup. You needed a Carrier crew to handle EBON and the replacement ship hadn't been built yet.

>>42639936
Commodore Tes'us sounds amazing. Possibly for all the wrong reasons.

>Tama
[Paranoia Intensifies] L-Lat'tham coup, you say?


Thanks for running, TSTG.
Looks like I'll need to reinstall an X-series game to get my fix

>>42640137
>L-Lat'tham coup, you say?
Yeah. His carrier got blown up in that great big battle.

>>42640137
>Thanks for running, TSTG.
You're welcome. See you guys in the morning.

Hey TSTG, what are the current demographics on Rioja? Did we pick up any reasonably skilled Shallan/Terrans, and can we employ them in RSS?

>>42640414
>Hey TSTG, what are the current demographics on Rioja?
In flux. There has been plenty of Terran refugees, but also some from the Dominion worlds that were hit.
Shallans have been slowly arriving in the Run from other House worlds.
There has been slow but steady arrivals from the House homeworlds since Rioja was acquired. There are signs that more people may be headed to the territories in the Run from the former Erid space looking to start over.

There are more humans than average compared to most Dominion worlds. Almost as many Dro'all. Shallans are the next largest amount then Kavarians, Rovinar and a few Hune.

Most of the Hune in the region seem to be left over from the merc bands that used to base out of the Run.

>>42641173
I wonder, and I imagine this differs greatly based on region and experience, but do hune relate more closely to Shallans (pointed ears, hey just like us) or to humans (Hey right skin color)? I suppose one factor is that by my understanding that Shallans before, y'know, their version of the apocalypse, had little interaction (didn't shoot at) with many of the factions while Terrans and the dominion have been less... on the sidelines.

>>42638063
Would it be possible to get a battle barge so the local fleet has a decent command ship whenever Sonia is busy doing stuff in a different part of the universe with her medium cruiser?

>>42638213
>I am imagining an unholy fusion of a 163 Komet and a Mitsubishi Zero.

KometAnon here - while this comparison is not without merit it is probably better compared to F-104. Low endurance, high performance and mostly expendable.

The primary reason behind the proposal was to drive drone costs down, since I remember TSTG saying that compact fusion reactor is a highest-tech component and a major fraction of fighter's pricetag.

I do worry about giving Neerans *ideas*. Thankfully, they seems to suck at stasis tech.

Id like to add a Anons Gunship class Heavy Cruiser with a Squadron or two of Athenas with LD Plasma attachments to the Rioja fleet ASAP. The impending civil war worries me. The Ruling House has significant holdings in the Run and is likely to position at least a Heavy Cruiser taskforce there to keep JD forces bottled up and away from the Centri Cluster if we join with Ber'helum in the civil war.

Plus, they would make for an amazing beatstick to be the anvil to our fast forces hammer.

And we would get the glory of being the first Baron in JD with a Heavy Cruiser! I think. Of our own design no less! Talk about the bragging rights!

I am not certain how much it would cost to buy one of the Heavies our yard over Surahkeh produces, but i feel confident that we could scratch the money necessary together in under a year.

>>42643694
>Id like to add a Anons Gunship class Heavy Cruiser
>And we would get the glory of being the first Baron in JD with a Heavy Cruiser! I think. Of our own design no less! Talk about the bragging rights!

Not much to brag about considering that Anon's Gunship is rather second-rate design, being an essentially upscaled Lance. I'd prefer a couple of 7th gen Shukhants (ones with four Medium plasma cannons).

Athena is an interesting design, but it's heavy firepower comes at the cost of mobility. I am not sure how it will fare in full fleet engagement rather than relatively small battles and skirmishes we have seen.

>>42643694
>And we would get the glory of being the first Baron in JD with a Heavy Cruiser! I think. Of our own design no less! Talk about the bragging rights!
Incredibly expensive. I'd be more in favor of a heavy fortress due to the choke-point position of the run.

A fortress isnt a chokepoint in the Run. It can protect Rioja, but it can't keep anyone from simply flying around it. Space is big, and the Nav Hazards in the Run are not that narrow.

A powerful fleet can blockade the Run since they can intercept those trying to slip past, but a fortress would be easily evaded.

>>42646251
You'd obviously need a fleet as well, but combined with a good sensor net bypassing Rioja would be extremely difficult because your supply line would be extraordinarily vulnerable to interception. There are ways around that but they are frankly much more expensive than the fortress will probably be, and hiding such resupply ships in the Run would be a bitch anyway.
tl:dr bypassing Rioja from our entrance of the run is possible, but its such a massive bitch that they'd probably end up taking on the fortress anyway.

You've picked up a Wing of Assault corvettes for free plus another wing that you own.
2 more will be bought with the House paying part of the cost. This is kind of a important since Rioja does not have an economy to help pay for your fleet. That's 570 million that will need to eventually be paid by someone.
Some of those costs can be cut back with things like your emergency teleporter production. Taking say half the ships produced by your level 4 yard for a few months and just not making a profit off it for the better part of a year would likely be the cheapest way of handling it.

>>42638276
>Is that a BC squadron or wing? Cause if it's a Squadron I would like to add about 2 more of them.
>>42638586
>Available designs for purchase

Would other anons like to stick with one BC squadron or spend money on adding one or two more BC/ Fast Battleship Squadrons?

>>42646013
>>42646251
>>42646385

I have to agree with both of you, in a way.

Rioja should have some kind of strong point. Preferably something that is capable of providing a haven for parts of our fleet in the event of a blockade/siege.

But we do need a mobile fleet in order to fulfill our duties as a Baron. We're in charge of raising a Riojan expeditionary fleet. The

Governor is in charge of seeing to the system's defenses. We can assist, but we can't exactly do that by giving him more and more sites to crew and defend when the PDF is stretched thin already.

As for the ships we get, Heavy Cruisers and Athena Battleships may be a bit of a strain upon our logistics, manpower, and funding.

>>42646732
>stick with one BC squadron or add more?

I'd much rather focus on adding smaller vessels. Didn't we run around with 1 squadron of battlecruisers (or less) during most of our Neeran deployments?

We should be focused upon creating a fleet capable of having smaller detachments like we often prefer to deploy, rather than focusing on the shiniest toys. We're in the Smuggler's Run again. Now is the time to get back to the basics. Like teaching our new guys how to salvage their way into battlecruisers and larger!

>Army Building
>RTS could be contracted out to provide training instructors.
RTS would be better suited to training local units or PDF. Unless you wanted to use them as OPFOR in exercises.


>>42643694
>Anons Gunship class Heavy Cruiser
The second one is reserved for sale to the Alliance so that you and the House that helped fund construction will actually make a profit off the entire endeavor.

There are 4 heavy ships in the fleet one of which you will probably be able to get command of during a major conflict.
Forbearance, Majestic, Qlippoth, and Abyssal. The Zeus is anticipated to be out of action for some time.

>>42642812
>Would it be possible to get a battle barge so the local fleet has a decent command ship whenever Sonia is busy doing stuff in a different part of the universe with her medium cruiser?
Possibly.

>>42646821
>Didn't we run around with 1 squadron of battlecruisers (or less) during most of our Neeran deployments?
More or less yes.

>Like teaching our new guys how to salvage their way into battlecruisers and larger!
Speaking of that, a combat barge has recently been sighted in the Run. Its Norune crew are apparently looking for work as bounty hunters or Mercenaries. It looks like the group that tried to capture you back in your first days in the Run.

What do you plan to do about them?

>>42647186
Urge to salvage rising.

>Jump in with the Devourer
>Remember me?

>>42647186
>what do you plan to do about them?

AGRO and a wing or two of corvettes? If needed, lure them into space that we or an Allied House have jurisdiction over via a bounty contract?

Detain them and determine if they're the same ship/crew. If they are, keep the ship and deport the crew?

If they shoot, salvage them. Their computers may hold valuable information on where they were and what is there.

>>42647286
>>42647438
Go after them with one ship or more than one hundred of them?

Maybe Devourer and a corvette squadron or two?

>>42647640
what's the legal situation regarding them? Are we allowed to just capture them? Let's check with our lawyers first what our options are here.

>>42647640
AGRO, Devourer and 2-3 corvette squadrons.

I have to say I am against a large fortress in Rioja orbit. It's not economical for the coverage it provides. I'd much rather we get some of those smaller Star Fortresses that can cover a larger area, be moved easily and are not all that expensive to replace.

As for Battlecruiser/Battleship squadrons. I know I suggested we get more but that's probably not a viable idea right now when I think about it. Costs to much compared to the amount of money we have. Besides when we go on an expedition we can hopefully salvage some for the fleet.

>>42647186
>What do you plan to do about them?
Well now, aint this convenient. As far as I remember they assaulted memebers of the Dominion military and a noble of House Jerik-Dremine. I think their ship needs to be impounded and claimed for JD. Perhaps it can be refitted as a Battle Barge?

>>42647640
Take the Command squadron and 3 squadrons of Corvettes.

>>42647640
They're running around in a combat barge, right?

Isn't that potentially a medium-cruiser sized threat or at least size class?

At the very least, we should take at least a squadron or two of escort vessels for AGRO. More if we take Devourer, to ensure we're not out-gunned.

>>42647665
Well, they did attack, tractor and attempt to forcibly board Bittenfeld, a JD warship. IIRC, there were a few casualties among our marines and some damage to both Bittenfeld and our wingmen.

At the very least, that is grounds to accuse them of being pirates, but as mercenaries/bounty hunters they wouldn't fall under SRL protection?

They also fired upon JD forces during that breakout attempt that saw us trying to stop Wayward Treasures and casualties among our forces.

>>42647705
>refitted as a Battle Barge?
iirc, it is a battle barge with heavily upgraded tractor systems to secure ships with bounty targets.

It might be more valuable as a mobile repair ship for our fleet, though.

>>42647668
as the guy asking for AGRO + corvette wings, this works!

>>42647776
Sure, but I'd like to avoid some legal complication that fucks up everything. Who knows who they maybe signed up with, we need to make sure we get them in a system where we actually have jurisdiction, all that kind of jazz to make certain that whatever we charge them with actually sticks. Let's not half-ass this by going in unprepared.

>>42647665
Provided its the same ones, they're bounty hunters which are kind of a grey area. Outside territory belonging to your House you might not be able to charge them and other Houses might not care.
Within your territory and those of your allies you can claim that they're enemy combatants or pirates who attacked J-D ships.

If they were to claim that they were members of the South Reach League at the time you might not be able to touch them as a result of the cease fire agreements and SRL treaty.

You could simply inform them of the treaty with the SRL if they don't already know and offer to hire them as Mercs. Or you can treat them as hostiles and seize their ship.

>>42647705
>and a noble of House Jerik-Dremine.
You were still an officer at the time and had not yet made Knight but they did attack your ship.

>>42647776
>Isn't that potentially a medium-cruiser sized threat or at least size class?
Larger than a Battleship but smaller than a Medium Cruiser. Tonnage wise it might be the same as the old Dominion Battleship.

>>42647776
>iirc, it is a battle barge with heavily upgraded tractor systems to secure ships with bounty targets.
It had been fitted for high speed, durability and tractor beams. Converting it for salvage and repair would destroy its combat capability.

Looks like you're taking your command ship, Devourer and a couple assault corvette squadrons.

>>42647923
I actually think we should hire them out as mercs personally even if they just happen to be the same ship that tried to kidnap us.

Don't get me wrong I want that ship, but I would rather our reputation with the Mercs and Merc companies to remain strong with our reputation.

It might help our reputation showing that even though they might have been against us in the past we won't hold a grudge against them. (We still might have that grudge but at least not show it too much in public).

A question. Did we accept the proposal by those two Merc Companies that wanted to work for us personally and help build them up?

>>42647923
That sounds super vague and murky, so I'll go with Brutus' suggestion
>>42648143

>>42648143
I'd like to impound them just long enough to get access to their systems, if possible. They were last sighted heading into an FTL hazard to escape pursuit, and that one guy did claim there were bases in there via slowboat.

Accessing their sensor/navigation logs could give us vital information concerning any potential threat lurking and waiting to move to the Run.

>>42647186
>Possibly.
I meant a combat barge. The battle barge and combat barge distinction is incredibly annoying to remember correctly.

>What do you plan to do about them?
Hire them so we can cheaply evalute the usefulness of combat barge designs? We can also use them as opfor during training exercises for the newly recruited local forces. Have them write an evaluation of the ship class as they're probably one of the most experienced people around in faction space when it comes to that type of ship.

>the House that helped fund construction
If things went well we should consider cooperating in additional fields with them.

>Other Houses in the Run
We should visit the Barons and diplomats in the area now that we're officially a force in the region.

>>42647923
>Provided its the same ones, they're bounty hunters which are kind of a grey area.
They were doing their job, and didn't kill anybody from J-D, I think. I'm willing to write any past problems with them off as an occupational hazard.

>>42647923
I do, in fact, hold a grudge and have no intentions to hide it.

If we can't seize the ship, then kick them out of the Run.

>>42648143
>A question. Did we accept the proposal by those two Merc Companies that wanted to work for us personally and help build them up?
There weren't too many comments on it. For now they're stationed at Rioja.

>>42648263
Sorry.
>and didn't kill anybody from J-D
A few of your Marines were killed in the boarding action. Most of them were trying to stun people but when they ran into real resistance they started using grenades.

>>42647923
When reports about the bounty hunters reach you it isn't long before you've rounded up a fleet to go after them. You've always taken it somewhat personally that they tried to capture you. Maybe it has tainted your perception of Norune in general. You were more or less party to that private investigator looking into Katherine Drake being killed by Winifred's people. That may have been a result of your prejudice against them.

Norune bounty hunters and mercenaries aren't like the rest of their people though, most have been exiled from their homeworlds as a result of being violent and unstable.

Following reports from the sensor arrays and a few sightings you catch up to them at Kaartinen. Contacting the Governor you find out that they're in the middle of conducting some trade for equipment, weapons and ammo. Mostly point defense systems and general system upgrades.
Shields in particular have increased in power considerably since the start of the war so they would need to upgrade to stand a chance.

The corvettes jump in from different directions to surround them while your two larger ships arrive in a higher orbit above them.

"Readings are a match with those from the archives sir."

Looks like it's time to make them an offer they can't refuse.

[ ] Order them to surrender. (Capture)
[ ] Offer to hire them. (Capture if refused)
[ ] Offer to hire them. (Kick out of Run if refused)

>>42648408

[x] Order them to surrender

We've met a few decent Norune. These guys aren't it.

[X] Order them to surrender. (Capture)

>[ ] Order them to surrender. (Capture)
Maaaaybe hire them later if things check out, but they deserve some amount of shit for what we went through.

>>42648408
>You were more or less party to that private investigator looking into Katherine Drake being killed by Winifred's people. That may have been a result of your prejudice against them.

It's not like we could have predicted that Winifred would do that. I felt really bad about it, to be honest.

>[X] Offer to hire them. (Kick out of Run if refused)
I'm kinda tempted to ask them to pay the appropriate fines for killing J-D military personnel by accident during a combat situation.

>>42648408
>[X] Offer to hire them. (Capture if refused)

>>42648408
>[ ] Order them to surrender. (Capture)
Capture first and then we can see where to take it from there.

>>42648408
>Sorry.
No worries. It's make sense when considering BFG's battle barge but is a bit confusing when a battle barge in this setting is focused on planetary invasions, while that didn't really matter in BFG.

>>42648504
>>42648580
These seem good.

>unrelated stuff caused by reading the archives
During that large battle where we lured several neeran command into the trap with the disguised asteroid ships, a helios medium fired an emp burst that caused neeran plasma fire to lose cohesion, probably by disabling or weakening the plasma containment fields. Has the FA done any research on that effect?

>>42647923
>Outside territory belonging to your House you might not be able to charge them and other Houses might not care.
We should tell them they're being charged with something and that they will treated fairly to the extent of the law.

Commanding them to surrender sounds a bit too much like lawless bullying.

>>42648766
>Has the FA done any research on that effect?
Yes and the Neeran have been countering by adding additional shield generators. It is still possible to use siege guns to reduce the effective range of Neeran Scorchers.

With your ships spread out around the Bounty hunters you open a channel to them and order their surrender.

The captain soon responds.
"What is meaning of this? We are... a private warship. Why are you threatening us?"

"You've committed crimes against the House of Jerik-Dremine and its allies. Attacking military starships and personnel is not a charge our House quickly forgets. Surrender immediately."

The captain argues that they've committed no crimes and haven't visited the region in years. Apparently they seem to think there should be a statute of limitations on whatever it is they've been accused of. Well it doesn't work like that.

"Then we will request asylum from planetary nations of Kaartinen. They will protect against unjust arrest."

Asylum? That wasn't a thing you were expecting.
"Can they do that?" you ask after muting the channel.

Maybourne quickly looks it up.
"Maybe. It's not a proper full world government down there. They'd need to enter the air space of one of a nations willing to take them in."

Sensor speaks up. "Sir, they're killing their velocity, they're going to fall out of orbit."

[ ] Pay one of the nations to impound their ship on landing
[ ] Intercept! (With what? Assault Corvettes or Fast medium?)

[X] Pay one of the nations to impound their ship on landing

At worst, planetary nations are neutral to us, right?

>>42649349
>[ ] Pay one of the nations to impound their ship on landing
How do you solve a problem? Throw money at it!

>>42649349
>[x]other
Sure, let them land on Kaartinen. It's not like Sonia helped to save a decent number of people on the planet and managed to broker continued independence for the planetary nations, or anything. Oh, wait...

Anyway, I don't want to push anybody to do something illegal but I'm sure the planetary nations will do us the favor of keeping the mercs grounded until we've worked out a deal.

>>42649349
>[ ] Pay one of the nations to impound their ship on landing
just make sure we pay the nation they're landing in and don't accidentally start a war by triggering an invasion.

>>42649349

... can a barge sized vessel actually survive a reentry and not cause serious damage to a world?

[x] Intercept! Fast Medium.

We either use tractors to slow them down into that phenomena where planetary gravity instead speeds you up, or aim to push them so that they skip off of the atmosphere instead of entering. If we can put marines aboard before they enter the atmosphere, probably for the best.

[x] Other: Offer several million credits to each nation that refuses to grant them asylum/entry into airspace.

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>>42649416
>At worst, planetary nations are neutral to us, right?
Neutral to your House, relatively good relations with you personally.
Though as someone pointed out earlier:
>>42636740
>(And make no mistake, we're "the man")

>>42649482
>I don't want to push anybody to do something illegal but I'm sure the planetary nations will do us the favor of keeping the mercs grounded until we've worked out a deal.

>>42649744
>can a barge sized vessel actually survive a reentry and not cause serious damage to a world?
Depends how controlled it is and how powerful their repulsors are.

>>42649835
Keep AGRO over them, it could be an attempt to slingshot.

Contact the projected landing point and inform them why we are ganking these guys. I doubt that anyone on the planet is fan of Warlords or their henchmen.

Not sure how much of a legal leg to stand on they have. They attacked and attempted to board a dominion ship and were last seen fleeing from arrest from said dominion. "But that was a long time ago!" Isn't an excuse.

>>42649349
A combination of both. Pay the nation they plan to land in to impound them. While also making sure to cripple or disable the bastards. We shall not let these ass holes escape! I remember their bull shit ship. I want it in our fleet.

>>42649835
>depends how controlled and powerful their repulsors are

So basically we should be encouraging parts, if not all of this world to enact emergency 'get into a bunker/shelter' protocols, to ensure if their plan goes wrong we minimize any potential fusion engine going critical damage?

>population's face when Sonia Reynard yells 'INCOMING DANGER!' over open comms

>>42650000
I'm not willing to break the law to break the law to get it. I'm also not a fan of screwing over the part of the crew who weren't making the decision to attack.

"All ships back off slightly in case they try to cut to the other side of the planet and escape that way."

The barge descends into the atmosphere, shield lighting up from atmospheric friction as it continues to decelerate. Eventually it slows to subsonic speeds deeper in the atmosphere and changes course for one of the ports that might be able to handle their ship.

It seems their repulsors could handle the descent. You're certain their remaining high output tractor beams could have made up the difference if necessary.

Before they're within 100km of the major ports you've already completed calls to the Governor in the Dominion territory and the head ministers of the other nations. While the ship has been cleared for landing and can stay on the ground for at least two days, it will be forced to leave shortly after that or the ship will be impounded to avoid a diplomatic incident.

Denye Krus is the minister of the southern most nation where the ship will almost certainly be docking.
"We may offer asylum to members of the crew, but they won't be allowed to keep the ship and pose a risk of piracy to the region. We're aware of the difficulties of our position in keeping our nation neutral Baron Reynard. It is in everyone's best interest to maintain peace and stability to encourage economic growth.
Hopefully this will be just one of many muturally beneficial agreements we'll be able to come to in your time as Baron of Rioja."

>What say?

>>42650205
"I'd like to give these assholes a couple of kicks in the nuts, but I suppose I can settle for making them lose the ship. How much do you want for it?"

Afterward: "Keep an eye on them. You know what they say about Norune bounty hunters..."

>>42650205
Thank them for their cooperation and tell them that we are glad to have neighbours such as them.

>>42650205
"Perfectly understandable and I respect your decision as a sovereign nation. I would appreciate if I could take part in their logs and data as there are a few things I would like to confirm. That aside, if there is anything you need help with then you know where to contact me."

Polite Baron is polite.

>>42650205
Do what these guys >>42650427 >>42650461 say

>>42650205
This >>42650443 >>42650461 sounds good to me. Polite and diplomatic since things have gone our way this time.

>>42650427
I think that's bit too direct for diplomatic channels.

>>42650205

"If you feel granting members of this crew asylum is a moral obligation, I can assure you I find no fault with your beliefs on the matter. On behalf of House Jerik-Dremine, I thank you for your commitment to protect the Run from piracy, and to see this region prosper in peace and stability. I hope to work with you in the future to see to that mutual goal."

Off the record, we should take some time to talk to the Dominion Governor and the ministers of the other nations. See if we can't learn about any issues we could try to help mediate or look for solutions to through mutually beneficial agreements?

"Thank you for your cooperation. I respect your decision as a sovereign nation and am glad to have such neighbours.
While there are... things I would like to do to them, I can settle for making them lose their ship.

I would appreciate it if you could acquire their logs and data as there are a few things I would like to confirm about actions they've taken part in. If that isn't possible I'll understand.
How much do you want for the ship itself?"

"If it is impound I imagine we would be able to part with it for eighteen to twenty million. While it is far more valuable, it would only hinder our compliance to treaty stipulations if it remained here you understand."

That's quite a deal. The thing must be worth 70-80 million, even with the need for upgrades. It's also too good to pass up lest they decide to jack up the price if you delay.

"If there is anything you need help with then you know where to contact me." you tell the minister before signing off.

One way or another that ship is yours. A squadron of assault corvettes remain in orbit keeping an eye on the situation while you withdraw most of the fleet to keep the populace from getting jumpy. So many advanced warships being present in orbit of a world only half under Dominion control might not be best for your public image.

The Run could use some additional patrols. Corvettes drawn from the region to help fight House Erid left gaps in the coverage long enough for pests to sneak in. You've seen before what that can do in the region. The House has a unit keeping an eye on the remaining fortress in the Avoubic system in case they do anything but so far they've been trying to stay on their best behavior.

Patrol work is still needed to show the flag.

[ ] Hunt for smugglers
[ ] Hunt for salvage thieves
[ ] General patrol work
Roll 2d100

Rolled 8, 7 = 15 (2d100)

>>42650662
>[ ] General patrol work

>>42612564
Nigga why don't you put Quest in the subject field? "For House & Dominion Quest: Civil War"
It ain't hard.

Rolled 39, 58 = 97 (2d100)

>>42650662
>[x] General patrol work
Not the most profitable, but needed.

>>42650662
>[ ] General patrol work

Rolled 16, 24 = 40 (2d100)

>>42650662
[X] Hunt for salvage thieves
[X] General patrol work

Rolled 28, 6 = 34 (2d100)

>>42650662
>[x] General patrol work

How did Berwari's attempt to retake his ship go? I remember we had some pretty good rolls for it at the very end of the last thread.

Rolled 73, 84 = 157 (2d100)

>>42650662
>>42650771
woops

>>42650662


[x] General patrol work
[x] hunt for salvage thieves (smaller taskforce, say a wing?)

These are the two important ones, really. Smugglers will always be around, and they're not necessarily an immediate threat.

We've encountered pirates that started as salvage thieves to get their ships armed up, and they're also stealing from JD's claims.

General patrol work is the key to the long term security of the region, though. It gets our crews familiar with the region and shows that we're here and prepared to take on anyone causing trouble.

>>42650662
>[x] General patrol work
It's important to keep a visible presence.

>That's quite a deal.
Maybe invest the difference of 50-60 million in the planet?

>Merc crew
I feel pretty bad for all the mercs who aren't commanding officers. I would like to hire their engineers, if possible. Maybe allow the crew to forward their applications to the mercs we're currently employing. Why? Norune are cute. Don't judge.

>Neeran Jesus! These rolls...

>>42650796
>How did Berwari's attempt to retake his ship go? I remember we had some pretty good rolls for it at the very end of the last thread.
>98 36 85
>Why did I say 3d100?
Right.

Back to Berwari. His team got in with little in the way of opposition, had one hell of a fight for control of the ship, lost most of the mercs he'd hired, then flew out of there like a bat out of hell. Which is good because a ton of SRL Mercs working for the local Warlord would have been trying to kill him by then.
"It's really too bad you were in jail. That was the second worst I'd seen an operation go once aboard the ship. I may not be able to rebuild my power base but I will have one of the fastest battlecruisers in known space again.
The Alliance may need my help but if you have any employment opportunities that could be worth my while let me know."

>>42650850
>smaller taskforce, say a wing?
That is not a small taskforce for those sort of patrols. That is a large one.

>>42650768
Wow. 4 rolls of bad dice.

You conduct some general patrols of the Run. They don't seem to be very effective. Enough people are taking notice of the movements of your Command ship that everything goes quiet when your Command ship passes through, or trouble makers are long gone having been warned.

You do locate some ships that are having difficulty and are able to render assistance, giving them a lift to Rioja or the refit yard that has taken the place of Forbearance.

The Corvettes do manage to chase down a ship operating without an IFF. While just a modified corvette it was carrying more splinter ammo than most would in addition to materials used in the construction of torpedoes.
Its all suspicious enough to impound the ship and bring in the crew.

>"It's really too bad you were in jail. That was the second worst I'd seen an operation go once aboard the ship. I may not be able to rebuild my power base but I will have one of the fastest battlecruisers in known space again.
>The Alliance may need my help but if you have any employment opportunities that could be worth my while let me know."

Has he considered acting as a consultant for houses and companies who want to establish relations with the srl or consider investing there? Maybe we could point some work in his direction if he's interested.
He's an accomplished mathematician, if he's got a good pitch I'd be willing to consider financing a research project.

>>42651843
Maybe he could join RSS Intel for a bit and work on some predictive algorithms? That was his area of specialty, I believe.

>>42652026
>Norune are cute. Don't judge.
If he could write a piece of software that predicts which ships are likely to be the next target of enemy scorchers or SP strikes, and offers suggestions to minimize the chance of that happening, he'd probably make enough money to start thinking about buying himself into a smaller House or SRL territory.

Two days later you're summoned back to Kaartinen to take possession of the Barge. The government who impounded it seems to have appropriated the cargo that was aboard. Out of curiosity you ask what it had been carrying.

"Finished materials used in emergency teleporters and a number of other exotic trade goods that don't pass through this area often. Their cargo bays were stacked full of them for maximum capacity.
We don't recognise the teleporter manufacturer, the Gelsan. It does appear to be compatible with faction teleporter technology. Rest assured that it is not Neeran in origin so there is no need to concern yourself."

Given the size of the cargo bays a ship like that can have it would have been carrying more goods than the ship itself was worth.

>>42652026
He occasionally takes work such as that on commission when he's not busy.

Back to this question:
>>42648143
>A question. Did we accept the proposal by those two Merc Companies that wanted to work for us personally and help build them up?

I did not see anything against hiring them on with your fleet to form a couple squadrons.
Worth more than pay to them is what ships they'll be allowed to get hold of from your House catalog. The Kavarian mercenary unit already has access to Firestorm II Frigates but they know they can potentially buy more powerful ships through you. You've helped Medel start up the shipyard building newer model Shallan attack cruisers, paying 3/4 of the way.
The House may not want you selling advanced starships to Merc bands but it would be added incentive for them to sign longer contracts with you.

Out of the following what are you guys prepared to let them buy?

[ ] DHI Afterburners
[ ] EC-K Attack Cruiser
[ ] Dusk II Attack Cruiser
[ ] Mark 4 Assault Corvette
[ ] Newest model Assault Corvette

>>42652184
>[x] EC-K Attack Cruiser

>>42652184
>[ ] DHI Afterburners
>[ ] EC-K Attack Cruiser
>[ ] Dusk II Attack Cruiser
Might as well use them as guinea pigs for that AC class if they're interested.

>Given the size of the cargo bays a ship like that can have it would have been carrying more goods than the ship itself was worth.
Now I feel even worse about the whole thing. I don't like vindictive Sonia.

>>42652184
Forgot this one.

[ ] All of the above

>>42652154
Good idea, SP decoy detection algorithms. Try to figure out which of the torpedoes in a swarm are real torpedoes versus decoys, and which torpedoes are most likely to be SPs so they can be targeted first.

If he could patent that he would be set for life.

>>42652184

[x] DHI afterburners
[x] Dusk II Attack Cruiser
[x] Mk 4 ACRV
[x] EC-K Attack Cruiser (limit to a pair so each squadron has an ECM ship?)
>Gelsan
Did any information on where they've been get secured?

We may need to research worlds that may still be lost in the Hazard Zones.

>[ ] EC-K Attack Cruiser
>[ ] Dusk II Attack Cruiser

Don't want to throw around Assault Cruisers to just anyone and Afterburners are valuable as is.

>>42652368
>Hazard Zones.
Didn't a pirate a while back issue some threat that said they were building up a huge force inside the Hazard area? Maybe I'm just imagining things/

>>42652439
That was the commander of Forbearance, iirc.

"We sent sleeper ships into the Hazard Zones ages ago! WE WILL DRIVE YOU OUT AGAIN!" I think was the gist of his ravings?

>>42652184
[X] DHI Afterburners
[X] Dusk II Attack Cruiser
[X] Mark 4 Assault Corvette

EC-K and, presumably, A/CRV5's are restricted goods. We can't offer them to mercs.

>>42652750
>That was the commander of Forbearance, iirc.
I think only the EW parts are restricted. Is it still an EX-K if those are removed?

>>42652364
>If he could patent that he would be set for life.
He was set for life before he tried to sack his boss.

>>42652368
>Did any information on where they've been get secured?
Some of their systems were wiped of data before they landed, including navigation records. Some of the logs are still present but the captain recorded the ship's log in some obscure Norune dialect that is apparently used as a naval code. You'll need to get it translated by a specialist.

>>42652439
>>42652523
>We may need to research worlds that may still be lost in the Hazard Zones.

Data not found. You may have more luck getting someone in the Navigator's Guild to search.
Speaking of which, did you want to see about offering Linda a position on Rioja representing the Guild? A school teaching jump calculations would also be an option since more navigators are going to be in demand.

>>42652786
>Is it still an EX-K if those are removed?
More like a super EX-K since it still has the extra engine power. It's directly equivalent to the newest model Iratar K-Types then.

>>42652917
>Speaking of which, did you want to see about offering Linda a position on Rioja representing the Guild?
Hell yeah.

I want to give the Rovinar a big-ass embassy too.

>>42652917
What would the House DEFINITELY not want the mercs to get a hold of? I would definitely not want to give the mercs anything that would piss off our house.

>Speaking of which, did you want to see about offering Linda a position on Rioja representing the Guild?
Hell yes. 2GETHER 4EVER

>>42652917
Offer Linda teaching spot on Rioja!

>>42652917
>Linda
Sure. And ask her what she'd like to do, the official position or the teaching job are just suggestions. If she wants to do some research we can just build her a department at our university, or just build a lab in Rioja's asteroid belt. If she's willing to wait a decade or so we can probably get her on the director's board of the guild.

>He was set for life before he tried to sack his boss.
It would have been nice if it had worked but I really saw no way in hell he could have come out on top of it.

>>42653003
>What would the House DEFINITELY not want the mercs to get a hold of?
They would probably be fine with most of it provided steps were taken to keep the ships from being turned against the House. Like Marines or armed observers on the Attack Cruisers only your House builds, like the EC-K.
Or you know remote detonation codes for the ships self destruct.

>random questions
What's the difference between an assault cruiser, and a battle cruiser?

Several classes saw an enormous jump in effectivity since the campaign against the warlords began. Corvettes, attack cruisers, battleships, and medium cruisers.

Is there a chance for a similar development for frigates, battle cruisers, carriers, and barges? Maybe light cruisers too?

>>42652917
>Linda a teaching position on Rioja?

If Linda will accept, all of the yes. Same with the school.

Linda would also be a solid way for us to gather more information about the Run's FTL hazards.

It might be interesting to eventually set up specialist sensors at the FTL Hazard edges, to try and detect changes or ships trying to move through them. Work with the Guild on it, and it might provide interesting stuff for a Navigator's school to study. (and possible intel for the House)

>need a translation specialist for Norune

We should see if the Alliance could provide someone to translate, or connect us with such a specialist. (probably a Norune?)

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>>42653338
>What's the difference between an assault cruiser, and a battle cruiser?
I don't know if I really have an assault cruiser.

An Attack Cruiser is a fast starship in the same size category as a light cruiser but usually featuring less armor and more engine power. Attack Cruisers have been steadily upgraded, removing any gap between them and light cruisers in terms of their weapons compliment.
Most attack cruisers average 750 meters in length.

Battlecruisers are starships that exceed one kilometer in length but are faster than Battleships, some massing half as much as a Battleships. Their weapons compliment tends to be similar to Battleships.
Battleships are warships usually between one kilometer and one mile in length. They normally have far more armor than a Battlecruiser and may carry more weaponry.

>Is there a chance for a similar development for x, y, z
Most have seen some level of upgrade. The Terrans and House Kharbos have been working on those frigate designs based off the assault corvette.
There should be some newer Battlecruisers eventually.
Carriers there is only so much to upgrade other than throwing more shields on them. They still need to stay out of the main fight as always.

I'm going to have to stop here soon.
Did you want any RSS ships transferred to Rioja to help you out? You do have a few Medium cruisers that could help you out.

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I think RSS still had a mostly unupgraded lance class medium, it should still be sufficient to deal with the local problems and we can slowly upgrade it to a better level as well while it's in the run.

Did our salvage teams pick up anything interesting after we gave them a few milions to purchase interesting or useful ships?

Seeing a lot of skipped votes on the survey.

40 million is being invested in the point defense HAG project.

The following options have enough support for your army recruitment programs.
>Requisition or recruit from other House worlds & bases in the Run
>Try to boost military recruitment among the immigrants
>Recruit Shallan refugees from South Reach
>Limited numbers of former Erid military (10% or less)

Looks like you're spending 40-45 million on Power Cell Armor and less on the other options.

Army small arms
>Mass Driver Rifles (Reynard M / L)
>Phase Rifles
>Shallan Fusion Guns
And maybe some Fusion Blasters, they're kind of borderline. Anything else will be picked up as available.

A War Factory is going to be built on Rioja.

Kavarian Assault Transports will be the primary means of troop transport and planetary assault for your army.
With the House having switched over to newer Alliance Escort Carrier designs that have more ECM support it should be possible to get a few that have been moved to reserve.

There seems to be some split support for the stasis drone starfighter thing. If done it would be a Joint Project with Rovinar & House Kharbos.

Have to go! I am late for things! See you whenever the next game happens to be.

Thanks for the thread TSTG.

THANKS FOR THREAD TSTG

>That sage typing guy

Thread archived. No idea when the next thread will be due to new job and training for a potentially better job.

Don't bump the thread.