>>41525023
Welcome back OP.

>He sees green skinned men with beasts of iron and fire clashing against Great army's of humans.
oh shit


BTW dont see anything about the scouts we sent east and north.

Rolled 23, 15 = 38 (2d100)

>>41525023
We should choose sides, I suggest get in contact with the green skin beast for mercenary work.
Start training more gnolls and better our tactics.

>>41525023
Yay, finally a civ thread today.

Hopefully we can use the (assumed) war between the (orcs?) and the humans to our advantage.

>>41525291
>>41525548
Disregard this it's incomplete.

>>41525670
you can delete posts/image at bottom of thread.

and we completely relocated to the caves, abandoning the 3 mounds to the west of the cave.

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>>41525670

>>41525834
Do you have a legend for all the icons? I can't tel where we are located

>>41525871
we're bottom middle in the rounded things

>>41525834
i forgot what this program is called

>>41525871
You're located in the caves near the river.
Your old camp is the one to the east.

>>41525947
Hexographer.
>>41525948
West*

>>41525948
>Your old camp is the one to the west
fixed.

also u cut out the area further south where we came from that you posted in the previous thread.

>>41525965
thx

>>41525965
Was it d20 or d100?
How many actions can we take per turn, if only one will it increase when our population increases?
Can we dedicate a turn to increase birthrate?

>>41526104
2D20's one for each action.

Birthrate will increase with population and morale. Though you could do a magic roll for some sort of fertilty ritual.

Rolled 1, 3 = 4 (2d20)

>>41525023
I say we take the path of blood to the humans soon. Starting off though, we should get more Riding Aurochs. Search for em, tame em, breed em, whatever we gotta do.

Second thing is another raid. Continue acting as bandits, stopping trade to and from the city near us.

Rolled 15, 9 = 24 (2d20)

>>41525023
I say we send out a small party (2-3 Gnolls) with a human slave accompanying them to go and see what is going on between the green skins and humans. The slave can serve as a translator.

Also, build some a pen outside the cave for the horned aurochs as wel as some fortications in case the war comes our way.

Rolled 17, 15 = 32 (2d20)

>>41525649
Rerolling correct with correct die
1. Scout out green beast
2. Train tactics and gnoll

>>41526291
we already sacrifised 4 human warriors last turn. those 3 remaining are workers and will be more useful to us alive.

>>41526294
does the human know gnollish? does it know orkish? i doubt it.

>>41526324
we have currently not even a clue where the greenskins are located.
and we already have scouts out on (2) mission(s) and they should return in ~2 turns

>>41526373
I didn't mean path of blood for the human slaves we have, I meant path of blood for the human slaves we don't have. Those that aren't slaves.

>>41526373
>does the human know gnollish?
I'm sure it has a basic knowledge of it so it can understand orders from its Gnoll masters. And it can learn more while the party is out on the trip.

>>41526387
you mean raid them? yes but let's wait for our scouts to return with info first.

meanwhile we should train our troops like others suggested.

>>41526430
certainly, but i doubt he knows orkish.

>>41526451
He doesn't need to know orcish since we are talking to the orcs with him.

>>41526373
Well question the skaven and human slaves if they know anything or know someone that does.
Anons how does mercenary work for yall since we're small in number

>>41526487
then why bring him with us?

>>41526489
imo we should stay neutral for now , maybe we can loot the dead after their battle.

>>41526489
We need to continue scouting so that we may hopefully find other beast races like the minotaurs, kobolds, and ursines that we can incorporate into our pack. We need to unite the beast races if we are to survive in this harsh world.

>>41526537
We are going to talk with the humans, not the orcs. Having a human with us may or may not ease negotiations. It will also make travel easier since the slave may know their way around better than us when we get close to their home.

>>41526603
nah fuck the humans. plus he might just tell them
>"this gnoll raided our caravan, sacrificed and enslaved the survivors".
they'll take us prisoner, torture us for our location and hunt us down.

Remember last threads plan
Move to caves
Create slightly more favoured Skaven class

Also I think our resurrected guy should become known as the First Risen

>>41526661
Yeah OP did both already. Read the first post.

>>41526661
we did that, read OP.

>Garor Ratchaser, First Risen
im ok with that.

>>41526661
Rolling for

Also none leave lest word of us gets to the other humans

>>41526723
we already did that, fucktard. read OP.

>>41526579
I'm aiming mpre of a gnoll master race kind of deal, we should really allie with a race before our raiding shananigans catch up to us

These votes are all over the place. I need a consensus or I'm just going to take the highest rolls.

Also the map is the idea of the world you got from interrogating the human prisoners.

Rolled 1 (1d20)

Yeah!
Just caught up with reading the first two threads, and the new one is up.

However it looks like there isn't consensus on what to do next.

>>41526324
+1 on training our fighters.
Do I roll too or do we just use the first roll for a particular action?

Rolled 17 (1d20)

>>41527059
+1 train troops

Rolled 2 (1d20)

>>41527059
I support training troops as well.

>>41526294
Also requesting support to build a pen and fortifications as our second action.

Rolled 8 (1d20)

>>41525023

We really need to be using Gruk Han - our leader is just getting fat and bored.

Also I suggest one of the following actions:

1. Research one of the mysterious tomes that we found.
2. Test out the exceptional axe that Gruk Han has. It sounded like it might be something more than just a well crafted axe.

Rolled 6, 4 = 10 (2d20)

>>41527210
>>41527171
>shaman research tomes
>gruk han trains the troops with his new axe
>slaves build a pen for beasts

+2 dices so i've rolled one for each action

>>41526487
>>41526451

Negotiating for information or using some kind of a translator is really not our way.

Remember that instead we can kill first and ask questions later - literally.

Catch an enemy that seems like he knows a lot and sacrifice him for that information.

Learning languages, technologies, lay of the land, and war plans - all possible.

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>>41527406
i agree. we're bandits and not too good at diplomacy

>>41526291
>>41527059
>>41527154
>>41527333

These dice rolls.

We might want to cast a 'remove curse' on our tribe.

>>41527444

>The prey
>implying a very pissed fighter isn't about to open a can of whoopass on the dicks that dared to kill his horse.

Protip: Don't ambush men in full plate that are riding alone through nowhere.

Hey first time posting in this civ thread, what's happening? Roughly and what dice am I rolling?

>>41527478
Luckily the rolls aren't for anything that is life-or-death

>>41527478
this might be something
>>41509229

>>41527128
>>41527333
Pens and Training

Writing

>>41527503
The man with an arrow protruding from his back, possibly his spine?

I doubt it.

>>41527555
I like crogs dice system Ive been thinking about using it.
I do d20s I take the highest on activities the tribe has an advantage on, the lowest on activities with penalties, and an average on activities with no mod.

>>41527666

Oh, I didn't know that.
But it sounds like a great system.

If we are doing something risky, hopefully everyone will remember to let one designated person roll.

Gruk Han after seeing the usefulness of these horned beasts not only for combat but for food commissions the slaves to build a large pen.
>Auroch calves will be born next turn

Hearing of the shamans vision, the gnolls begin training with new purpose, Some have even taken to using a weapon in each hand, striking so rapidly that even gnoll eyes have trouble tracking the movement of the blades.

In the midst of the sparring Garor and Gruk Han lock eyes with each other... Blades are dropped to the ground. This dispute will be settled in the old way with tooth and claw.

>Roll 1d2

>Morale: Normal
>Resources: Bone spears and light leather armor, Salt rocks(3), Tamed Riding Aurochs (4) Steel swords (22) Steel axe (3) 2-handed axe exceptional quality (1) steel shield (5) Mysterious tomes (2) woodcutting axes (4) pickaxes (4) hand saws (4) Chain mail (3) Wooden Carts(2) ores: 2 units of mithril, 3 units of silver, 10 units of Iron
>Population: 32 Gnolls(5 pups mature in 3 turns) 2 skaven overseers, Skaven slaves 6 Children (5 (2 freeborn) ) (13) Human slaves (3)
>Tech: Pack: Advanced Weapon training II, Hunting tactics, Tracking, Bone-Carving, Tanning, Crude Ranged weapons, Primitive taming,Mining, Metallurgy, Agriculture, Written Language, Engineering, Languages: Man Common, Beast Common, Gnomish, Dwarvish,
>Magic: Boon of the blood drinkers, Blood Runes, Blood Seeing - Shaman can use the blood of a recently slain creature to gather information, Ore sense, Minor Illusion, (Necromancy-No spells unlocked) (Geomancy, unlocked no spells)
>Heros: Gruk Han - Packleader, Draugh the Proud - Shaman, Scout- Leader Garor Ratchaser First risen
>Food: 8 turns worth
>Diplomacy: Gnomes unmet, Humans unmet, Skaven (enslaved)
>Buildings: 3 gnoll mounds, Cave

>>41527895
Go Garor, everyone's lovable zombie Gnoll!

>>41527895
1d2 or 1d20 ?

>>41527957
1d2

>>41527895

Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>41527927
Aye!

Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>41527991
Oops

Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>41527971

Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>41527895

Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>41527895

Let tooth and claw decide the strongest!!

>>41528005
>>41528008
>>41528047
Hell yeah!

Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>41527895
just in time for the party

Writing.

>>41528071

Unholy strength, and knowing no pain might be an unfair advantage.
Never mind the fact that Ratchaser died and 'got better'.

While OP is writing, I vote that Garor "Ratchaser" be renamed Garor "Bonecrusher" due to his strength in battle as well as to pay homage to his resurection by Yeonghuu

>>41528173
eh, i dont feel it.

>>41528173
"Spiritwalker"?

He's seen the other side and has returned.

>>41528225
I like that better actually. Let's go with that

>>41528225
>>41528173

Nah.
He is already the First Risen.
Don't need him collecting titles.
If anything, it's our Shaman who did the heavy lifting, and overall is clearly the MVP of our tribe.

>>41528225
Nehh, I think we should stick with Ratchaser. His name shall be famous, instead of changed everytime he does anything.

>>41528291

+1

>>41528290
>>41528291
agreed.

>>41528291
+1

>>41525023

So we are the only gnolls that have traveled this far north?

I guess it does give us the advantage of surprise and nobody knowing what the heck we are, on the other hand there are no other gnoll tribes that we could conquer and absorb so our growth is limited by the number of pups that we can raise.

I wonder if we could contact the old packs and encourage them to let more gnolls migrate here. Really sell the whole 'land of opportunity with tasty Aurochs' angle.

>>41528594
I say we should still consider doing mercenary jobs, maybe for payment nstead of money it'll be tech and equipment.

>>41528594
Yeah or something. We've already begun the process of integrating the skavens, but that won't be nearly enough. We need to find a way to grow much faster. We won't be able to do anything meaningful, even if we are big, strong gnolls blessed by a god.

>>41528660
I also would like to Stat with mercenary work, preferably for someone already powerful and machine minded. (Ork like creatures maybe??)

>>41528695
Always remember though, growth is exponential. I'd say keep it smaller for now while we get supplies, land, tools, things that can support a larger civilization. Then we can grow.

It's better to have a small civ with excess supplies than a large civ with few supplies.

The two mighty gnolls circle each other, this is something both had been anticipating.

Gruk Han spares no time, he crashes into Garor with all of his strength The first risen latches on to the Pack Leaders hide as he falls to the ground tearing open a vicious wound.

The two gnolls struggle on the ground, fur and blood flying into the air. The battle moves again to the standing position. Garor strikes at Gruk's chest with his right claw. reflex now moves Gruk to action Grasping Garors arm and using his strength to lock it behind his back. Gruk moves his claw to garors throat signalling for his submission.

Garor takes a deep breath...
He remembers the void, and the moments leading up to it, and pure animal instinct takes over. The cracking of bones breaks the silence in the air, Garor turns slowly allowing the bones in his shoulder to break and letting him slip free of this hold.

Garor takes advantage of Gruk's surprise and strikes with his teeth pinning him to the ground. Gruk struggles for only now grasping his dire situation, finally he submits.

Garor stands and lets out a ferocious howl!
The pack howls with him.

>Garor Ratchaser the first risen is the pack leader

>>41528748
Agreed. I'd rather be Spartans than indians

>>41528660

Doing work, even if it is stuff that we like - such as fighting - is really a looser's game.

You know the saying that you don't have to pay dead mercenaries? Mercs get sent where the fighting is thickest, and every gnoll life is precious.

>>41528695
Maybe we have to reconsider our reservation on an undead army

>>41528748
I agree with that. Also I'm no fan of mercenary work. Who would hire/trust us without trying to fuck us over?

>>41528800
AWOOOOOO

>>41528800
AUWOOOOOOOOOO! LONG LIVE GAROR RATCHASER, THE FIRST RISEN!

>>41528800
AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Garor Ratchaser, may his hunts be blessed in blood!

>>41528291
Fair enough

I think we need to really be focusing on tech, we don't even have the ability to make the tools were using.
>anyone else feel we should be training some of our own with the shields to specifically be a defensive unit, so things like death goo don't happen again?

>>41528833
Wait, how it doing work a loosers game?

You know the saying "only a strong gnoll is a valuable gnoll"?

>>41528800

AWOOOO!

>>41528856

Instead of looking at Mercenary work, we need to be Marauders.

We know that a big war is coming, that means rich spoils can be ours for the taking. And with the right spells to keep us under the radar, both sides will write off their losses by blaming it on their enemies.

>>41529011
Indeed. Gnolls work for no one but themselves. We should take advantage of the war rather than let the war take advantage of us.

>>41528800
Allow Garor to drink of his kills blood, then gather the rest for blood magic use at some point, pack leader blood is strong blood.

>>41529041
I don't think he's dead. I think he just threw in the towel. Only thing dead with him is his pride.

>>41529041
>>41529041
no, he didnt kill him (and should not kill him). that's not how packs works.

>>41529011
agreed


Have Draugh examine the tomes.

>>41528994

Letting someone else dictate how much we are worth is what I am having a problem with.

We deserve as much as our strength allows us to take.

Let the humans and orcs waste their strength on killing each other, we will walk in and scavange their weapons of war and grow fat on their corpses.

And with Yeonghou's (sp?) blessing they won't even know whom to blame.

Hopefully you guys don't mind if I join in the middle of the civ.


What if we try to locate and loot a small village somewhat far away from our nests, in order to bait some fighter to defend said village and gorilla warfare them down to acquire some loot and a little fighting slave force?

We need a consensus on a plan of action here
I say:
>Train blood magic
>make scaven mine for us and teach us how to make weps
>get info on war
>train group tactics, not just solo combat skills

Why don't we git gud at necromancy and start raising their own dead to fight for/along side us?

>>41529137
Hm, we don't have to let them dictate us, we can negotiate , let them know our terms. I know there must be some races that will still be willing to hire us, we're ferocious gnolls!

>>41529133
Sorry didn't catch that last little part, just got back and was speed reading the last quarter of the thread.

>>41529137
indeed. we're bandits, not mercs.

>>41529193
go play an undead/vampire civ if you want that.

>>41528800
Is there still shaman trainees being trained? as I recall there should be 2.

>>41529153

As far as slaves go, we should be very careful with enslaving those who could warn the orcs and humans about us.

Keeping human miners is probably ok, but the best slaves are races like skaven who are not trusted by either side in the war.

>>41529221
I meant it as a sneaky kinda thing... Or an emergency plan or something. Heck it's just an idea

>>41529181
>>41529193

I think we should study the tomes we have, then work on advancing blood or necro depending on what they hold within their pages.

Either way I agree with xcvsd's plan of advancement, maybe get a cabal going if any of the young show an aptitude for the arcane

>>41529193
Blood magic to fuel our savage attacks
I'm thinking we cn use necromancy magic for reattaching limbs or healing of some sort, like a surgeon.

>>41529181
Though most of this is needed, we already have some training on group tactics. Though it would be better to train more on them, I agree. Info on the war should be first priority.

When do our scouts come back?

>>41529231
Yes they will be ready in 3 turns.

>>41529270
We already have blood advanced some, so getting that stronger is a prority, also. BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! he did save our current alpha.

>>41529271
Or just keeping them alive till we can graft 'em back. Sounds like a good idea. I like my magic to be broad and not based on schools like necromancy or whatever. We should experiment a bit with our magic and start getting more and better equipment for the gnolls

>>41529193

I think the First Risen is 'Alive' if perhaps tainted a bit by the experience, not 'Undead' in the strictest sense of the word. More like 'Ex-dead'

By the way I really like the idea of our elite gnoll warriors being Immortals.

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>>41529238
I agree. Humanoids better serve us as food.

>>41529271
i think that falls more into blood magic.
let's stick with only using necromancy to raise our own fallen.

>>41529298
>When do our scouts come back?
next turn i think.

>>41529348
yeah that's the vibe i got too.

>>41529341
I'm mainly wanting equipment at this point. Were using things that are beyond us and won't be able to recreate them should ours break.

>>41529379
then let's raid something. we're bandits after all.

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>>41529369
More of a combination of blood and necromancy magic?
>>41529369
We can still enslave them just set up a mining cave so they can sleep in it too.

>>41529369
I don't know about using necromancy to raise the dead. We shouldn't bring back the dead. Let them stay with the blood god.

So 2 Gnoll actions 1 slave action,
2d20s
Also scouts will be back this turn.

Rolled 2, 13 = 15 (2d20)

>>41529432
Maybe make kamikaze blood bomb zombies?>>41529444
Here's the rolls

Rolled 12, 4 = 16 (2d20)

>>41529444
Study blood magic, raid caravans

Rolled 11, 2 = 13 (2d20)

>>41529444

>>41529467
Seconding this one. We should focus on the blood, not the body.

Rolled 16, 9 = 25 (2d20)

>>41529432
>More of a combination of blood and necromancy magic?
yeah

>>41529439
fair enough. save mortally wounded from certain death?

>>41529444
>examine tomes
>raid caravans

Rolled 10, 13 = 23 (2d20)

>>41529488
Well fuck me with a pitchfork, I put roll instead of dice

>>41529467
>>41529488
Your shaman passively studies when he isn't being used.

Rolled 4, 13, 14 = 31 (3d20)

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>>41529488
This, I want blog and caravans. No necro for a while

Rolled 2, 17, 15 = 34 (3d20)

>>41529467

Study blood magic, raid caravans

Get the slaves to mining, the skaven overseers can have small hovels within the cave, and slaves that show promise may become overseers etc.

Rolled 13, 18 = 31 (2d20)

>>41529181

+1 to researching magic, and ambushing a human who might know something about the war to 'drink' the knowledge out of him.

I think some geomancy magic might be a good idea - hide our raiding party's footsteps, smelt ores more easily, create hidden underground dens to spring ambushes out of, or just make holes in the ground with a sharp stone at the bottom to break legs of fleeing cavalry / slaves / wild aurochs.

Rolled 9 (1d20)

>>41529529
Oh. Well, I guess instead spend time training more mounts.

Rolled 16 (1d20)

>>41529529
Alright. I say we go find more mounts.

Rolled 2, 11 = 13 (2d20)

>>41529529
I am so losing track. Can Draugh examine the tomes? Who's teaching the upcoming shamans?

if possible I'm with >>41529505

have the slaves make crude wooden doors to our cave.

>>41529529
op, could you explain more what you had in mind for necromancy since all of us seem a bit confused about it.

preferably nothing zombie-army-like.

>>41529580
He probably could, just depends on what everyone wants, we're pretty much a murder hobo civ right now.

>>41529529

Everyone saying we should study magic was talking about figuring out what those 2 tomes do.

>>41529691
Not me, it needs to be done, but just not first. I elieve we also have some special axe

>>41529580
The apprentices are trained by being fed small amounts of Draugh's blood absorbing small amount of knowledge, while also aiding in his research.

>>41529605
Necromancy encompasses a few things.

>Spirit Binding. Calling on the spirits of dead warriors to posses them and gaining their strengths

>Fleshcrafting - Creating things using dead flesh, healing wounds or even making creatures.

>Raising - Resurrection of the dead, zombies etcetera, it will also branch into anti-undead magic like turning.

>>41529857
I think Spirit Binding would be something Gnolls would do

>>41529709
those tomes are inside our home, we need to figure out what they are/do.

>>41529857
interesting.

>>41529899
"Home" we don't have much, and can hardly make anything. I'd like to fix that

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>>41529868

Do I smell some voodoo gnoll shenanigans incoming?

also ignore the levels of animoo in the pic

>>41529919
yeah, but like, what if we raid the next settlement, and it's better than our caves. we could just take that.

I actually like the idea to get comfy in the caves.

we can examine the tomes, maybe finding something useful to progress our magic.
then we convert one into a small temple to please our god

>>41530002
and what if their neighbours send out scouts to see what happened to them? we'd be fucked.

i also prefer the cave.

So.. we gonna do something?

>>41530254
we already rolled a whole lot
>>41529580
>>41529577
>>41529564
>>41529563
>>41529556
>>41529525
>>41529505
>>41529473
>>41529467
>>41529466

>>41529857

Are you writing stuff right now?

Did you get the concensus and rolls you needed?

I have this feeling that everyone is waiting for something to happen...

As far as useful magic spells and rituals I would want our tribe to have:

Blood frenzy potions to boost our warriors in battle.

Bone necklace spirit fetishes to enslave the souls of our enemies. Effects? Protection from ranged attacks / magic / scrying?

I also think we should have at least one Geomancy spell to justify having that school of magic.

Maybe have a way to 'wisper to the grasses and the earth' bidding them to tell no one of our passing.
Basically a spell to make us impossible to track.

>>41529868
I dunno man. If a gnoll honors combat, they'd be the one's doing the fighting. Not being a vessel.

Hey guys. Hope you don't mind if I join in on your game - I read the last two threads & this looks purdy damn sweet.

As far as what to do right now, I recommend we begin setting the Skaven slaves to mine in the caves for us (under the supervision of some Gnolls & the Scaven overseers of course) while Draugh & the shaman younglings read the tome.

As for adult Gnolls..... IDK, have scouts search for the green skinned things?

Rolled 2, 13 = 15 (2d20)

if we are to act as marauders, then we need to develop hit and run tactics, prioritising mobility

in order to do this properly we need more riding aurochs

>>41530434
this one speaks truth.

>>41530387
sounds promising

>>41530409
welcome

>>41530434
we get some calves in a few turns. i agree with your point on mobility.

>>41530409

Scouts are already out scouting and are supposed to come back.

I think everyone wanted to raid a caravan.

I imagine Gruk Han wants to let out some steam right about now. And what better way than using that big axe of his on some caravan guards.

>>41530489
yeah, and everyone wants to improve magic, so i suggest we do that by researching the tomes in hopes to find something.

Is Mordok kill?

I hate when you have a popular thread and OP disappears without a word.

>>41530603
he's prob just busy irl, he'll be back.

Here sorry I was dealing with something.
Writing.

>>41530603
Pretty sure he mentioned kids a couple days ago,

Draugh takes to deciphering the tomes. He has discovered many new things about the art of necromancy. He has also discovered a new and dangerous school of magic, though he's unsure if he wishes to delve farther into it.

>Necromancy research 65%
>Plague Magic discovered
>Current blood magic research 30%

Druk Han seeking to prove his worth to the tribe again sets out to capture more of these horned beasts. He and his men return with 6!

>6 aurochs gained

>Morale: Normal
>Resources: Bone spears and light leather armor, Salt rocks(3), Tamed Riding Aurochs (4) untamed aurochs (5 calves) 11 Steel swords (22) Steel axe (3) 2-handed axe exceptional quality (1) steel shield (5) Mysterious tomes (2) woodcutting axes (4) pickaxes (4) hand saws (4) Chain mail (3) Wooden Carts(2) ores: 2 units of mithril, 3 units of silver, 10 units of Iron
>Population: 32 Gnolls(5 pups mature in 2 turns) Skaven Overseers 2, Skaven Slaves 6, Skaven Children (6 - 2 freeborn) Human slaves (3)
>Tech: Pack Hunting tactics, Tracking, Bone-Carving, Tanning, Crude Ranged weapons, Primitive taming,Mining, Metallurgy, Agriculture, Written Language, Engineering, Languages: Man Common, Beast Common, Gnomish, Dwarvish,
>Magic: Boon of the blood drinkers, Blood Runes, Blood Seeing - Shaman can use the blood of a recently slain creature to gather information, Ore sense, Minor Illusion, (Necromancy-No spells unlocked) (Geomancy, unlocked no spells)(Plague Magic unlocked)
>Heros: Gruk Han - Beast Tamer, Draugh the Proud - Shaman, Pack Leader Garor Ratchaser First risen,
>Food: 7 turns worth
>Diplomacy: Gnomes unmet, Humans unmet, Skaven (enslaved)
>Buildings: 3 gnoll mounds, Cave

>>41531356
wtf man, we all voted to raid caravans

also should have been Garor leading the pack now.

>>41531356
what ranged weapons do we use?
i think slings are a good idea
easy to use, ammo is everywhere, easy to make
can you use slings from aurochback?

>>41531425
>>41531356

Yeah, what happened to the ambush?
Not that I mind the 6 extra Aurochs...

Also weren't scouts supposed to come back about now?

Rolled 3, 12 = 15 (2d20)

>>41531356
We need to learn how to craft things with metals. Study metal crafting.

Also, raid caravans.

Ambush is coming in a separate post. This is going to be more interactive than the last one.

>>41531569
you should post all the story parts before posing the resources, pop, tech etc.

I'm sorry of this counts as metagaming, but I don't think we should dabble in necromancy because Yeenoghu is not Orcus.

>>41531544
Everything he said. Let's get further in blood magic as well

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>>41531544

We should focus on learning how to repair and customize equipment.

Most of our stuff will almost always be stolen, but we do need to learn how to use it well.

>>41531442
The ranged weapon I would love to have is a couple of Roman-style 'Scorpion' balistas mounted on the backs of Aurochs Bulls and made to reload from the bull's momentum.

>>41531714
Honestly, I don't think we should go into necromancy because every civ seems to go that way. Plus, I don't know if it's best for us. As of right now we don't have bodies, our fighting style isn't imperial. We don't have legions of men to march unto our enemy. We have back tactics. Undead here would be more trouble than it's worth. It'd rot the food quicker, while not giving us enough power. We need speed, not men.

>>41531356
My question, is can we focus on a specific school to quicken the process? If we focus on blood magic only, would we develop it quicker?

>>41531786
We wouldn't be using undead, we'd be using the spirits of past warriors.

>>41531356

What spells did we learn fromresearchingNecromancy?

Do we get to pick some?

Also what do you think of my idea of trapping the spirits of our enemies in necklaces made from their bones?

>>41531764
> Ballistae
That sounds cool, but like >41531786 said we don't have enough bodies to support such a large and slow target and it would be easy for our enemies to destroy because we can't defend it.

>>41531862
>> 41531786
Sorry about that.

>>41531882
>>41531786
Goddammit.

>>41531764
We have the spears you throw by using another stick for leverage. Starts with an a but I forgot what it's called

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>>41531758
>>41531544
nah man. we're bandits, we steal shit we need instead. let skaven do basic crafting if we need anything.

>>41531764
>We should focus on learning how to repair and customize equipment.
>Most of our stuff will almost always be stolen, but we do need to learn how to use it well.
this, if anything.


also pick related is our current ranged weapon, and we kinda suck at it

>>41531814
While that's better, I vote to let the dead rest. It'd be disrespectful to both parties. Are we so weak that we need the power of our ancestors? Would we dishonor our ancestors by putting them into bodies weaker than they are?

I say nay. If a hero dies, do not dishonor him by bringing him back for matters in the realm that he has left.

>>41531925
i agree.

The scouts from the north return from their journey. They confirm the accounts of the human slaves, they've found many more trade routes that could be plundered, though these are far more well guarded than the last.

>Route to the lumber camp (Previously Raided)
>Route to the northern village (Not raided heavily guarded)
>Northeastern route (Moderately guarded)
>Western route (Crosses river, bridge is well guarded)
The scouts sent east have yet to return.

>>41531862

I am thinking about something the size of an Arbalest.

Swivel mounted on the yoke of the bull, with a single young gnoll or a skaven to aim it.

Obviously we would need to get lucky and kill a human or gnomish engineer whose blood we could steal the secrets from.

>>41531917
I say some gnolls should know basic crafting, I don't want to be dependent on them.

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>>41531925
Who's to say that we use our own dead? We could rip our cowardly enemies from the cold ground and have them do for us in death what they could not do against us in life.

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>>41531913

Atlatl

>>41532034
no. see:
>>41531925
>>41531786

Rolled 6 (1d20)

>>41531977
Hmmm... We dare not raid the same road a second time, lest we tempt fate and fall into a trap. Best to go the northeast rout. slightly guarded sadly, but still one of the least so. That's my vote. If I need to roll, it's there.

>>41532034
And taint our men with the spirits of cowards? It would bring shame to any creature possessed. No, let the dead rest.

>>41531786
The tome contained necromancy it just gave you progress towards the next spell if you choose to research it further. You're still researching blood magic.

>>41532102
Alright. So it's more a side effect of us researching blood magic then.

>>41531925

We are crafting magic items that trap the spirits of our dead enemies forcing them to serve us.

My idea was, bone amulets that protect against projectiles, and hostile magic.

>Raising
I think it would be a neat idea of learning this for having a necromancer and his pack of undead, they could be the frontline.

>>41532098
I support raising the northeastern route

>>41532162
no. just go play a fucking undead/vampire game if you want that. fuck off

Rolled 10, 14 = 24 (2d20)

>>41532098
Rolling to support the raid on the northeast route...

>>41532102
And continuing our studies in necromancy.

No raiding, wait for their guard to drop again. Let's get good at spirit binding for binding our lost to a charm or focal point. We can use it for advice. In the meantime learn team fighting. Then have the Skaven teach us weapons

Rolled 12, 4 = 16 (2d20)

>>41531977

Rolling to set up an ambush on the North-eastern route.

Also let's do a ritual to gain the blessings of Yeonghuu.

>>41532162
I think most of us have thown away necromancy, at least for now
>on the topic of crafting, we may be bandits, one day Pirates/raiders, but if we don't advance our tech we will forever be stuck in the stone age, the best way to advance is to experiment and build. I would prefer we make some future progress less this become a boring civ

Was reading through the thread to catch and saw this >>41527895
>Auroch calves will be born next turn

Don't we have 3 sisters and 1 brother? Wouldn't this get rather incesty and have the possibility of birth defects?

>>41532269
They did just bring back 6 more

>>41532231

The raid is resolving our declared action from the last round.

This is technically the same turn that we caught the 6 Aurochs.

>>41532126
You gained the progress from diving into the tomes.

>>41532133
Now this isn't a bad idea. Keep's our warriors pure, and our ancestors resting. So long as it's cowards and slaves, I see no problem with this.

>>41532269
Probably not. Animals in the same area are less likely to suffer from genetic defects through incest. Animal incest can happen for generations before defects occur. Isn't nature wonderful?

Rolled 19, 9 = 28 (2d20)

>>41532238

+1
Blood for the blood god.

>>41532208
>And continuing our studies in necromancy.
you mean blood magic?

>>41532264
good point

>>41532325
i had pet rats once. one baby got incest defects instantly.


btw just a suggestion, but we should probably improve our illusion magic so we can hide from the coming big battle.

>>41532304

So did we get some applications from that research?
Are we researching a particular blood spell or ritual?

>>41532419
it helps to read the thread

>>41531356
>Draugh takes to deciphering the tomes. He has discovered many new things about the art of necromancy. He has also discovered a new and dangerous school of magic, though he's unsure if he wishes to delve farther into it.

>Necromancy research 65%
>Plague Magic discovered
>Current blood magic research 30%

>>41532419
We got a boat twords our next necromancy spell so it will take less time to lurn, should we one day decide to persue it

Ditch plague magic, Gnolls no like rotten meat. Spirit binding and illusions are where it's at.

>>41532406
That's really bad luck with the rat then. Lab rats are almost all incest. Very few defects. It lets them test products without having to worry about it having different effects because of different genes.

>>41532419
If I'm correct, it's not anything specific. We're researching it as a whole. once we reach a specific point, we can get something from it.

>>41532347
Blood for the Blood god!! Now who do we sacrifice? Human slave, Rat slave, or a pup?

>>41532499
A human. They're stronger than the ratmen and therefore they hold more power to use.

>>41532465

I did read that.
But what does 65% Necromancy or 30% blood gets us?
How is 30% different from 9001+%

Oh, do you mean that once it gets up to 100% we learn a spell and the progress resets?

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>>41532201
Relax faggot, no need to be a bitch about it.

>>41532556
Yes. To that last part.

>>41532419
You made progress towards gaining a necromancy spell by reading the tome. Your current research is still blood magic. All magicks will gain research progress through continued use and passively while your researchers aren't being used.

In my imo.
Work on blood and illusion magic for fightan and sneakan. Ditch plague magic since that's for untermensch skaven. Ditch necromancy since almost every civ game goes down this path and it's nice to do something different (purely from an objective standpoint).

I also think we should spy on the gnomes again to see how they are reacting to our ambush and how aware they are of us and our capabilities.

>>41532499
pup if we have one.

>>41532556
>Oh, do you mean that once it gets up to 100% we learn a spell and the progress resets?
i think, yes.

>>41532567
read the thread and previous thread, faggot. no need to be a lazy cunt about it.

So raiding the votes locked in have you guys picked a location?

>>41532499

Human obviously.
Ratmen are better slaves, and pups are too precious to sacrifice willy nilly.

>>41532630
The moderately guarded one.

>>41532611
one necro spell could be useful to heal wounds

>Fleshcrafting - Creating things using dead flesh, healing wounds or even making creatures.

but should only use the healing part of it.

>>41532630
north

>>41532630

does it go heavily > well > moderately?
If so pick the moderately one.

>>41532659
>northeast (moderately guarded)
fixed

>>41532666
Yes, Satan.

>>41532611

^ Totally agree.

Might want to grab that first Necro spell, since the tome gave us a big boost.

Northeast it is.
Writing.

>>41532721
Then we fall behind a little on blood

>moderate path, don't want to push our luck yet

The First Risen and his gnolls stalk the caravan trail for days, finally the hunters find their quarry. The cart is covered at the top but you can see something moving inside of it there are 15 men guarding it. 5 With these "crossbows" that Draugh has warned us of.

>Plan of attack?

>>41532977
Take out the crossbows first.

>>41532824

This is just us applying what we learned from our first risen.

The dream is to have our elite gnoll warriors be 'immortal'.

Being able to shove their guts in, reattach the limbs, feed them some blood of our enemies, and have them good to go fight some more, goes a long way towards that dream.

>>41532977
Take out the crossbows first and destroy them with our superior troops.

>>41532977

Get way in front of it and set up an ambush.

>>41532977
Split the pack have one as distraction while the others rushing in there, if there's cover.

>>41532977
what does the terrain look like. stuff like this is quite vital info.

you need to paint us a picture with your story, OP. atm it just feels a bit lazy.

>>41533064

No need to rush. We can strike where we have the advantage.

If it looks like it will rain, wait.
Crossbows are useless when their strings get wet.

Also a night ambush can be good.

>>41533012
>>41533046
The only problem is getting to the crossbow men without getting shot. Perhaps illusion spells? Mix that with >>41533053 .

Wait for a spot with good cover. Take out the crossbow men quickly while another group kills the horse pulling the carriage. Then, try and draw the troops out to fight the troops in the open. Try and take it them out one by one.

>>41533072

I think it's because we are the ones dictating what type of terrain we engage the caravan in.

>>41533120
all we have to do is strafe on the approach until one shot is fired, then charge

I think we should stalk it and watch it for a bit.
Inside the caravan could be more men and it could just be bait.

>>41533120

There is tall grass on the sides of the road to hide in, right?

we wait until they are almost on top of us, spook the horses, and charge in.

Are these humans? On foot?

>>41533180

Agreed.
Hide in the grass and let them pass by. Just to see: what is moving inside?

>>41533130
we still need to know the terrain around the quarry to decide if it's better to attack there or on the caravan trail.

either way, if we do it on the caravan path, use illusion magic like already suggested to hide us. wait for the cart to be almost on top of us so they have less time to react/aim/shoot.

>>41533191
The grass on the sides of the trail are thick enough to cover your approach. Yes they are on foot.

Rolled 17 (1d20)

Lets do this quick and quiet.

Use our atlati? To suppress the bow men. As the rest surround and attack when the ambush is started

>>41532977
Alright use illusion magic to make it look like green skins are blocking the path. Hummies will shoot at the illusion.
Then zerg rush.
If our illusion magic is that good.

>>41533296
Stealth roll?

Ok that gets us into a good spot for an ambush.

Can we see what is inside the cart before we spring the trap?

>>41533328
Our illusion magic is very mediocre, and we were spotted imidiately when the skagen were found.

>>41533328
I think all we can do is just conceal ourselves.

oh shit i thought of something

>use an auroch to stand near the trail and graze the grass with a soldier hanging off the side hiding
>everyone else hide in grass with illusion magic
>wait for caravan to get close
>have auroch charge the carts and knock soldiers out
>everyone charge
or someone can spook the horse, then auroch charges.
also do it during night like someone said.

>>41533364
Lol, that's exactly how we got the last caravan

>>41533328

Its better if we hit them while they are not expecting anything.

>>41533354
>>41533355
Crappy, I didn't remember if that was a bad roll or not. I was hoping OP would rule of cool it.
Let's get a long ways ahead of them and drop a tree on the path.
The zerg rush with aurochs.

>>41533364
I would still like to use a bit of our range, practice makes perfect, and we need it

>>41533385
If it's not broke...

>>41533413
Also I should point out that you have shields and chain mail at your disposal.

>>41533385
yeah, it was a really good tactic

>>41533354
>>41533399
well, that was because of their shaman

>>41533408
too risky imo. our atlatls are pretty shit and better used for fishing and stuff according to our first report on the usage.

Rolled 10 (1d20)

>>41533399
>>41533364

Something like this.
End of the day, when they are tired from walking all day.

>>41533443
1 shield and 3 mails*

>>41533444
They suck cause we don't try to advance, nor practice with them.
I don't want our mounts to die by archers this time. What if we shield march, not our stelthiest tactic but probably the most defensive. Well range and block untill close enough to zerg

>>41533491
I could've sworn we stole more than that... hm. Oh well

>>41533511
It's Steel shields (5)

the (1) in front is from the exceptional axe

>>41533539
I knew we had more

>>41533511
more people are likely to die if we fuck up our ranged attack.
also we can take their dead's crossbows and train with those instead. atlatl suck lol.

also, only 1 mount will rush, and if they notice it too early, everyone else will spring into action (spook horse to throw off their aim) and hopefully kill some before they fire.

>>41533548
>>41533539
oh my bad.

>>41533562

Make some rolls people.
We should have the advantage.

Vote for the parts we want, hopefully it will go quicker.
>1. Mount ambush
>2.Illusion ambush
>3.Frontal assult
>4.with atlati
>5.Zerg

>>41533562
we could however have a small group of atlatl users fire a volley at the same time the rest attack, before they also rush.

Rolled 18, 19 = 37 (2d20)

.
>1
>5

Rolled 3 (1d20)

>>41533587
>1. Mount ambush

>>41533587

1
3
5

The frontal assault will still hide in the grass until the last second.

Gnolls in chainmail or with shields charge in first.

>>41533608

Ok we use your rolls
lol

>>41533587
1, 2

>>41533608
Taking these rolls and writing.

>use an auroch to stand near the trail and graze the grass with a soldier hanging off the side
>everyone else hide in grass with illusion magic
>wait for caravan to get close
>have auroch charge the carts and knock soldiers out and then atlatl volley and charge
>if they see through the tactic and are ready for the auroch, spook the horse followed by atlatl volley and then zerg rush

maybe we should wait for OP to ask for rolls (and how many dices).


>>41533639
chainmail is not very effective against crossbows. but i agree with shields up front.

>>41533730
>chainmail is not very effective against crossbows
Better than nothing

Anon could you please put In some form of name, it's easier to know who's saying what that way

>>41533769

chainmail can actually be worse than nothing because if small broken rings gets pushed in and lost in the wound they will irritate the tissue and fester in there.

Granted, cloth outer and leather inner layers can help prevent that.

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>>41533839
Have the fastest light armor gnolls take out the crossbows while the rest go for the rest.

>>41533866

So I just realized that we didn't say who came on this raid.

Our whole tribe? All 3 main leaders?

>>41533907
Shame usual doesn't unless we say.

>>41533953

Then how were people suggesting doing the illusion magic?

>>41533984
I don't know, we'll find out

>>41533984
>>41534029
stuff like this op forgot to figure out in the beginning that keeps confusing the shit out of us lol

(dont worry op, still love you for running this civ).

>>41534067
He still does a heluv a good job figuring out what we want within all of our rambling xD

>>41534133
yeah it's a downward spiral of confusion lol

>>41534173

I prefer to see it as 'survival of the fittest.'

or in this case the least confused

The hunters move through the grass, surrounding the trail on both sides. The wheels of the cart thump lazily down the road the clunky sound of metal marching masks the sound of their approach.

The men in the back are relaxed chatting about this or that unaware that they are being hunted. The sounds of their screams echoing through the plains signal that the hunt is on.

The men in the front quickly move to surround the cart, the bowmen fire but Garor and his scouts move too quickly and are slaughtered before they can reload.

The humans quickly surrender dropping their arms. The hunters uncover their cart to reveal the prize. Three green skinned men and four small bird men are found in the back chackled to the cart.

>15 sets chainmail armor
>10 shields
>5 maces
>10 swords
>5 crossbows with 50 bolts
>3 orc prisoners
>4 tengu prisoners
>11 human prisoners
>7 warriors
>4 civilians

>>41534067
Garor has been trained in illusion magic.

>>41534277
AUWOOOOOO! Gnolls will rule the world! In honor of this victory, we must sacrifice an orc, tengu, and human each to Yeonghuu!

>>41534277
Sacrifice all the warriors. We don't want them causing problems.

>>41534277

Yeah!
Prisoners of war means we can use their blood to learn how and more importantly where the war is going.

Big sacrifice ritual to celebrate victory?

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>>41534277
AWOOOOO~ !!

drag everyone back to the cave!

>>41534277
Kill all the warrior as sacrifice, at least 1 of each race found as well. We can't take the chance of the Warriors trying to escape or attack

>>41534277
AWOOOOOOOO!!

>>41534310
The blood god shall feast tonight!

Give each scout that took part in the raid a blood tattoo to celebrate the occasion!

I'm with this guy >>41534362

Spare the orcs for possible allies, say this kind of end is unbefiting of an orc , sacrifice humans and barter magic from the tengu for their freedom

>>41534362
>>41534344

We can't kill them unless Draugh is present to learn from their memories.

>>41534362
Yeah, I agree with this and >>41534412 this. We should sacrifice all the warriors and one of each race, but only after return so that Draugh can read their memories.

>>41534411
We're already at war with teng they must die, all of the orcs info will be found through blood ritual, making interigation useless, should we decide to make friendly with orcs, they need not know we killed their own

>>41534462
i agree.

also we should build an altar in one of the tomes for this sacrifice!

>>41534434

Maybe he could feed the crossbow men's blood to 5 gnolls, to help them learn how to use such contraptions?

>>41534411
If anyone learns what we are like, or where we live, we could be in real trouble...

>>41534462

Agreed.

>>41534493
We found 2 Tomes - books.
not 2 Tombs - graves...

>>41534523
Only shame reads blood, but he might gain info on how to create them from it

>>41534523
That's true... I take it back, mass sacrifice

>>41534462
Perhaps instead we should keep all the orcs alive so that we could possibly befriend their homeland. Our races both share a somewhat evil nature already, so offering them back some of theirs should increase relations to a very high point.

>>41534572

Not strictly true.
His 2 apprentices drink his blood to learn magic, no?

>>41534598
Yes, but not skills. I'm assuming it's something like that he's infusing them with magic, though with our blood magic we maybe can transfer experiences/emotes through blood. The best time to do it would be at mass sacrifice because blood god will be happy.
>BTW how long till the attacking group returns with prisoners?

We will only know that After we sacrifice one of them.

What if Orcs view those who allowed themselves to be captured as traitors?
Just because we operate in a similar way doesn't mean that we are any less likely to want to kill each other.

>>41534523
i like that idea, we should try it.

>>41534562
oooooooooohh. i'm slightly embarrassed now :$

but we (slaves) should start digging for a temple. first step is an altar.

>>41534598
yeah. and if that doesnt work maybe shaman can chant something while they drink so it works

>>41534589
idunno man... what if they backstab us because we're so few?

>>41534653
>what if they backstab us because we're so few?
I think it is risk that we should be willing to take. I honestly don't think it is likely they would backstab as we've shown the orc captives our strength by defeating the human caravan and we can further prove our strength by helping the orc civilization against the humans.

>>41534589
I'd rather take no chances, as far as I'm concerned orcs are biggest threat and can not be trusted, only stolen from

>>41534652
meant to link to
>>41534589

Writeup for the sacrifice ritual coming, or do you need something from us, Mordok?

The hunters return to cave. This is a great victory! Garor is hailed by the pack, though it is bitter sweet the scouts that have been sent east are still yet to return

The Tengus have asked to speak with the pack leader.

>Morale: Normal
>Resources: Bone spears and light leather armor, Salt rocks(3), Tamed Riding Aurochs (4) untamed aurochs (5 calves) (11) Steel swords (32) Steel axe (3) 2-handed axe exceptional quality (1) steel shield (15) Crowsbows (Bolts 50) (5) Tomes (2) woodcutting axes (4) pickaxes (4) hand saws (4) Chain mail (18) Wooden Carts(2) ores: 2 units of mithril, 3 units of silver, 10 units of Iron
>Population: 32 Gnolls(5 pups mature in 2 turns) Skaven Overseers 2, Skaven Slaves 6, Skaven Children (6 - 2 freeborn) Human slaves (14) Orc prisoners (3) Tengu prisoners (4)
>Tech: Pack Hunting tactics, Tracking, Bone-Carving, Tanning, Crude Ranged weapons, Primitive taming,Mining, Metallurgy, Agriculture, Written Language, Engineering, Languages: Man Common, Beast Common, Gnomish, Dwarvish,
>Magic: Boon of the blood drinkers, Blood Runes, Blood Seeing - Shaman can use the blood of a recently slain creature to gather information, Ore sense, Minor Illusion, (Necromancy-No spells unlocked 65%) (Geomancy, unlocked no spells)(Plague Magic unlocked)
>Heros: Gruk Han - Beast Tamer, Draugh the Proud - Shaman, Pack Leader Garor Ratchaser First risen,
>Food: 7 turns worth
>Diplomacy: Gnomes unmet, Humans unmet, Skaven (enslaved)
>Buildings: 3 gnoll mounds, Cave

>>41534906
Let them speak. Proceed with the sacrifice of the 8 human warriors and the 3 orc prisoners. Make sure to use the blood of the crossbow humans to teach 5 gnolls how to use crossbows.

>>41534906
I see no reason to not accept their request. Gotta prepare first. Apply blood tattoos onto him, make him look as fearsome as possible.

>>41534906
Allow them, and the orcs if they wish, maybe they have a reason to live, if not, they all die together

I don't think we should invest too much into learning crossbows. We have naturally shit ranged combat and great melee. Maybe just figure out how they work and some strategies to avoid/deal with the crossbow.
I also think unless the tengu have something interesting to say we should just kill them since they are likely to fly away given the chance.

>>41534906

Shouldn't pups mature in 1 turn now?

Might as well talk to the Tengu.
And then sacrifice them to see if what they were saying was the truth.

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>>41534931
We should interrogate the orcs first and here's an idea, we should make a fighting arena for slaves and gnolls to raise morale. We should start stealing tech if we're to get like the image shows

>>41534931
>>41534935
>>41534961
>>41534995
>>41534987
remember, they know our location now (unless we blindfolded them) so we should probably kill them anyway

>>41535019

Oh yeah, for sure. But might as well let them talk first.

>>41535019
Well of course we're gonna kill em, but you don't tell them that. It's just sorta implied. Kinda funny to see what they offer though.

If they think they'll live, it makes the blood happy. Happy blood makes the blood god happy.

>>41535019
Or have them work on the mines for the ore inturn armor and weapons

>>631139213
You guys sell our range so short, if we advance we may get items more suited to our style. Something that has a spreadsheet would be very useful for our tactics. We just have think what we want and find a way to make it happen

>>41535071
gotta chop off their wings if we do that. rather just kill them.

>>41535073
A small auxiliary group of non-dedicated crossbowmen (melee is still main role) that can send off a volley or two to soften the enemy or pick off runners.