Jathrul tried to steal from Hostern a very valuable item that Jathrul sold him: Thrandel Greensteels breastplate. Its the last real, tangible connection you have to a friend who was like a brother to you. It sounds like a story: the noble dwarf prince befriending the poor boy who grew up in the slums.

But the truth is more prosaic; as a non-dwarf and a mage, even a military one, you were allowed to address Thrandel without having to bow and scrape before him. Your friend valued honesty and appreciated someone who could tell him when he was wrong. He treated you better than your fellow humans and even sent away a human knight who called you commoner filth. You can admit to yourself that there’s almost nothing you wouldn’t have done for Thrandel.

You’re not leaving here without his breastplate. Its something you can take back to his family so they have something to bury. There’s no way it deserves to be held by a bunch of thieves.

But there’s also Jathrul to think of: scum though he is, he’s smart enough to be scared of you, and you have both a Geas and a contingent spell on him that could take his life with a single word from you.

Groundskeeper Answick is doing his best to teach your girls some of a rogue’s skills, but Jathrul is probably far more skilled. If you save his life here, and keep a close watch on him, he could come back to the school with you.

But Hostern is looking at you like he expects an answer. What do you say?

>I want the breastplate (trade Jathrul for the breastplate)
>Jathrul owes me a debt; you can’t have him
>Give me Jathrul and the Breastplate else I’ll burn this entire place down and take them
>Other (what?)

You have the following spells active: Spell Mantle (Stoneskin, Protection from Arrows, Spell Absorption), True Sight, Mind Blank

>>41173816
>I want the breastplate (trade Jathrul for the breastplate)

>>41173816
>I want the breastplate (trade Jathrul for the breastplate)

As much of good as new trainer would be, I don't want anything to do with someone like Jathrul.

>>41173816
>I want the breastplate (trade Jathrul for the breastplate)

>>41173816
>Give me Jathrul and the Breastplate else I’ll burn this entire place down and take them
I'll be honest, I just want to kill the entire guild.

>>41173816
>I want the breastplate (trade Jathrul for the breastplate)
they are a thieves guild i'm sure they have someone more competent than Jathrul.
Also make clear that you have a scoree to settle with the dwarf as well an are mostly unwilling to let him be punished by someone else.

>>41173876
>they are a thieves guild i'm sure they have someone more competent than Jathrul.
We are not hiring any of these scum to teach our students.

>>41173863
We can do it after getting breastplate

Trade Jathrul for breastplate

Please roll 1d20+11 to negotiate

>>41173890
Thank you

Rolled 5 + 11 (1d20 + 11)

>>41173906

>>41173816
Backing
>>41173863

Rolled 4 + 11 (1d20 + 11)

>>41173906

Rolled 11 + 11 (1d20 + 11)

>>41173906

>>41173906
How does the law view undead?

>>41173887
I was just saying that they whould probably be better teachers than him, not that we should go with it.
But it IS an option.

So I say we should try opening with End to Undeath as these guys are more dangerous than that hedge mage
But I also would love to capture the leader or even one of his lackeys for research
What do you guys think?

>>41173925
generally illegal unless controlled by a licensed necromancer.

But no one bothers to arrest them unless they do something that attracts notice.

But by the law, killing Fostern (if he is undead) would not be a crime in Lysva

>>41173941
>But I also would love to capture the leader or even one of his lackeys for research
Research for what?

>>41173951
If we can use them
How to kill them
What they are

In this order
We also could sell them for quick money to mages guild

>>41173964
>If we can use them
>How to kill them
>What they are
We don't need to take them to find out how to kill the, we can find out on the spot, and the other two we can just ask the Headmaster who is a Master Necromancer.

>>41173941
Assuming End to Undeath even works on them, yes.

Capturing one of them isn't really a concern to me, and I see no real reason for Salazar to pull his punches against a mostly-unknown foe when the breastplate is so important to him.

“I want the breastplate” you say, meeting Hosterns gaze. You can see by the way his eyes tighten there’s no need to say which one; he knows what you’re talking about.

“Out of the question” he grunts in a low-born accent “too valuable, I’ll give you a hundred gold; no more.”

It sounds like a refusal, but you know when someone is trying to strike a deal.

“Please” you say, sounding ready to laugh “don’t insult me, the price for his life is set at eight thousand – I’d expect you’d pay that to see him dead.”

The two of you go back and forth; Hostern raises his offer as high as two thousand gold, and no higher.

“I’d have thought your reputation worth one old breastplate” you say, indicating Jathrul “Isn’t that worth everyone knowing that they can’t cross the Grey Hands and live?”

“The breastplate is magic” says Hostern. Damn, of course he had his mages check it over, damn.

“Two thousand gold for him” Hostern indicates Jathrul “in gold or trade, your choice, final offer.”

What do you do?

>Take the money (you’ll come back later for the breastplate)
>The breastplate; or I destroy this place
>Just attack (spell?)
>Other (what?)

>>41174016
>Disintegrate on Hostern

>>41174016
Tell me that me spell we put on that thief is fireball
Please

>>41174034
I dunno, was it?

It's unspecified, just that its a killing spell. So yes, that's an option

>>41174016
>Resilient Sphere around us
>Trigger Fireball contingency on Jathrul

>>41174016
>Other (what?)
Fine, let me see wht goods you have to offer then.

Although when it was voted for, the votes specifically named Disintegrate, but I'm willing to retcon it to something else

>>41174016

Mislead

No doubt they have some ranged weapons sported on us.

>>41174070
Not worth it
We have mantle up
>>41174016
>Just attack (spell?)
End to Undeath
>Other (what?)
Trigger Fireball

The thief may be a scum, but I question if we're or should be ruthless enough to use him as a living bomb just because.

>inb4 wizards

>>41174016
>End to Undeath

>>41174016
>Disintegrate
Fireball sucks. At least trigger Chain Lightning or something if you're going to be a dickass wizard.

>>41174090
>Not worth it
>We have mantle up
You realise Stoneskin is not actually that big a protection and and there are lots of effects, such as paralysing touches or elemental damage that we are not protected against?

>>41174090
>>41174095
Also guys, he most likely is a form of Flesh-golem.

So how strong is Acid Fog anyway?
How many targets does Chain Lightning hits?

>>41174016
>The breastplate; or I destroy this Place

Point out that you see the invisible mage standing at the corner/ something else to show your power.

closing vote and counting

>>41174114
>So how strong is Acid Fog anyway?
Acid Fog is the best, but players here have no idea how to play wizards and go for the 100% offensive spell that most likely will fail because we aren't even sure the opponent is undead.

>>41174106
We have spell absorption in mantle
And this asshole probably has something that goes around invisibility anyway

>>41174125
>We have spell absorption in mantle
Which doesn't do shit against either of those things?

I'm seeing
2 for End to Undeath and 2 for Disintegrate.

Going with Disintegrate.

Please roll 1d20+4 and vote on extra AE used, average of 3 votes used.

>>41174124
Fireball is more shocking than Acid Fog
With some luck we will get free spell out

Rolled 6 + 4 (1d20 + 4)

>>41174134
10

>>41174136
Its not "rather than Fireball" its "rather than End to Undeath".

Rolled 16 + 4 (1d20 + 4)

>>41174134
5

Rolled 7 + 4 (1d20 + 4)

>>41174134
15

>>41174136
>With some luck we will get free spell out
I have no idea what makes you think that, we won't.
As Abjuration Wizard you don't sling around just fireballs like some evocation loser.

>>41174104
>At least trigger Chain Lightning or something if you're going to be a dickass wizard.
>suspected flesh-golem or artificial animated creature
>use electricity
How about no?

You’ve had enough; you move your hands in the gestures of your spell even as you start mouthing the phrases to shape the arcane forces you control into something appropriately lethal.

Hostern reacts quickly; he grabs the table between you and flips it at your face. You are thrown backwards against the wall as the table is smashed to splinters against your stoneskin spell. Well, he’s certainly very strong. You complete your spell just as he lunges at you. His hands brush your throat at the same time as you release your magic, a green ray briefly connects the two of you, and then Hostern is just...gone.

[regular AE 43/56]

“As you can see” you start to say “tangling with me is a very bad id-”

Hosterns two grey thugs are on you just as fast as he was, their fists slamming into your face and chest, but utterly unable to hurt you; you don’t feel a thing.

The hedge mage’s invisibility dissolves as he casts a spell at you to paralyse you. It is instantly absorbed by your own spell. You’re surprised his spell actually functioned, his gestures were so clumsy.

[AE 48/56]

Jathrul is lying on the floor, you have two grey-skinned thugs trying to punch you to death and failing, and one sloppy mage to deal with.

The mage starts yelling “Intruder, get him!” There will probably be more thieves and thugs on their way shortly.

What do?
>Use spell (what?)
>Intimidate them
>Ignore them, just walk out (with Jathrul?)
>Other (what?)

>>41174248
>Missile Storm on the wizard

>>41174248
So did we kill him?
Also acid fog with exclusion of thief
Tell him to take us to breastplate

>>41174248
>Magic missiles for everyone!

>>41174248
>Cast Acid Fog around you
>Intimidate them

>>41174248
Missile storm remaining targets

>>41174301
>So did we kill him?

Yes, via disintegration. There's not enough left to fill a thimble

>>41174315
more importantly, did he have the prince's armor on his person when he vanished?

>>41174323
you'll find out

>>41174332
So he did
See fuckers?
that's why you don't Disintegrate things when you are here to retrieve something

ok, looks like Missile Storm all the hostiles is the answer.

Please roll 1d20+4 and vote on extra arcane energy used, average of 3 votes

>>41174332
for some reason this doesn't fill me with confidence.

Oh well, at least there's a few less thieves around.

Rolled 2 + 4 (1d20 + 4)

>>41174349
15

Rolled 12 + 4 (1d20 + 4)

>>41174349
5 no more

Rolled 16 + 4 (1d20 + 4)

>>41174349
8

Rolled 13 + 4 (1d20 + 4)

>>41174349
10

>>41174356
What the hell is wrong with you
We don't have unlimited AE

>>41174380
We have 56 thats not even counting our Abjuration reserve, makin sure our opponents are dead before their mates arrive, is signifcantly more valuable than saving a few points of AE of which we have more than enough.

>>41174393
>We have 56
48.

>>41174393
We aren't fighting anything really strong man
And only Abjuration spell that has any offensive utility is Resilient Sphere
Unless we can force others to read Explosive Runes
We will burn out before finding breastplate at this rate

>>41174402
>Arcane Energy 56 (base 14)

>>41174411
>We aren't fighting anything really strong man
We have no actual idea of their combined HP

>And only Abjuration spell that has any offensive utility is Resilient Sphere
Your ignorance isn't a good argument.

>We will burn out before finding breastplate at this rate
This is asuming we have a reason to continue at this rate, so we don't have to is the reason for ending this fight fast before we get swamped by bandits because we didn't kill fast enough.

>>41174428
>Arcane Energy 56 (base 14)
>[AE 48/56]

>>41174439
I was talking about our AE total, because the whole number obviously changes during the fight, its not a argument.

As the thugs punch and kick you, you block it out and focus on your spell. Dozens of bolts of magic force fly out with perfect precision, slamming into the two grey whatever-they-are and also into the mage.

[AE 35/56]

In seconds it is over, and all three are dead, merely bags of flesh and broken bones leaking fluids into the floor. The two grey things smell foul, like week-old corpses.

You listen carefully as Jathrul thrashes on the floor and tries to catch your attention.

You can hear shouted orders and running footsteps. The guild knows you’re here and soon you’ll have all of them to deal with.

You wander over to Jathrul and remove his gag and the ropes restraining him. He climbs to his feet “Thanks Az-er Sallazar” he says “For a moment there I thought you were going to let them have me.”

You don’t answer that, if they had given you the breastplate, you would have. Its probably in the treasure room, one floor up, and past a lot of thieves and several weak mages.

“So ah, what do we do?” asks Jathrul, who is...hah, oh wow, he starts checking the downed bodies for valuables. Seems he hasn’t changed.

What do you do?

>Use Mislead to turn invisible, sneak up to the treasure room whilst everyone is distracted
>Head to the treasure room, defend yourself as needed
>Kill all the thieves
>Other (what?)

And Jathrul?

>Leave him
>Take him with you
>Other (what?)

>>41174484
>Use Mislead to turn invisible, sneak up to the treasure room whilst everyone is distracted

>Tell him to run
>Trigger the Contingency

>>41174484
Can Scorching Ray penetrate targets?
If yes kill them
By the way is this building made from wood?

>>41174484
>Use Mislead to turn invisible, sneak up to the treasure room whilst everyone is distracted
>Take him with you

>>41174505
>Can Scorching Ray penetrate targets?

yes, if powerful enough

>By the way is this building made from wood?

Most of it is, yes

>>41174484
>Use Mislead to turn invisible, sneak up to the treasure room whilst everyone is distracted
>Take him with you
If we're going to be making stealth rolls, someone that can roll well enough at that to cover our ass wouldn't go amiss.

>>41174505
>By the way is this building made from wood?
That seems like a question to ask before voting to hurl around fire.

>>41174520
Thanks for reminding me
>cast Resist Energy fire

>>41174531
There is no "Resist Smoke poisoning" spell.

>>41174538
Wind Wall.

>>41174538
Wind Wall can be shaped to create path

>>41174484
>Use Mislead
>Take him with
we might need him to open locks and disarm traps, don't we?

>>41174574
Knock

>>41174558
>>41174569
So you want to keep casting wind wall wherever you go? Everytime you go around a corner?

>>41174582
still leaves traps and perhaps some mana conservation I guess.

>>41174585
Just when smoke is thick
We can always bail with teleport after getting breastplate
We should also scry for it

>>41174600
>We can always bail with teleport after getting breastplate
Yes after we got there, which we have no idea where it is and how long we need to stay in the building to find it.
You can do that shit once we are in the treasury and need to time looking for that thing.

>>41174484
>Use Mislead to turn invisible, sneak up to the treasure room whilst everyone is distracted
>Take him with you

Mislead + take Jathrul with you seem to be the winning votes

Please roll 1d20 for Jathrul to sneak along with you.

Protip: Mislead doesn't make others invisible

Rolled 15 (1d20)

>>41174614
nobody here but wizards...

>>41174617
good for us that he's a stealth class then.

Rolled 11 (1d20)

>>41174614

Rolled 16 (1d20)

>>41174614

>>41174617
Protip: Protips still make you look like a cunt.

You cast your spell and you disappear as an illusionary double appears in the same spot. At your mental command it runs out of the door to lead the thieves on a merry chase.

[AE 31/56]

As Jathrul goes to follow it, you grab him by the arm “Stick with me” you say.

“Sallazar?” he asks, sounding unsure.

“Right” you say “What’s the quickest way to the treasure room?”

“Stairs at the end of the hall” he says “Am I invisible too?”

“No” you say “so try not to be seen.”

With your double running around making noise, the two of you easily make it to the treasure room. It’s protected by a huge iron door riddled with padlocks and bolts.

You tell Jathrul to check the door for traps as you keep a lookout in the empty corridor.

He takes his tools out and gets to work, after a few minutes he says proudly “All disarmed, now just give me a few more and I’ll have these-”

“No time” you say, casting your spell and knocking on the door. All of the bolts slide back and the padlocks spring open.

[AE 34/56]

“The illusion won’t keep them busy forever” you tell Jathrul “We need to find the breastplate quickly.”

“Right, right” says Jathrul, rubbing his hands together gleefully as he follows you inside.

Inside the room are dozens of sturdy wooden boxes. You open them easily and tear through the boxes, looking for Thrandels Breastplate. After a thorough search you find it wrapped in a dirty cloth towards the back of the room, you remove its covering delicately.

Behind you Jathrul is eagerly stuffing his pockets with gold.

The breastplate is just as you remember it: a heavy reinforced thing coloured gold and bearing the Greensteel insignia on it. You smile, recalling how Thrandel always complained that it was so heavy it felt like he was carrying his whole houses legacy with him when he wore it.

The last time you saw this Thrandel was running to keep the drow back to give you enough time to break the wall and stop the invaders. You saw the rubble pouring down on him; you were too far away to save him, too exhausted. No, those are just excuses, you failed him.

Your fingers tighten on the edges of the breastplate and you screw your eyes up to deny the tears that are ready to burst forth. You breathe slowly, trying to bring your emotions under control. When you open them again, you notice a dark stain on the top of the breastplate, it looks like...

“He didn’t even bother to wipe your blood off your armour when he took it from you did he Thrandel” you whisper. Within you anger and sadness struggle and threaten to overwhelm you.

Even in the midst of your grief, your mind is still working. You searched this room thoroughly to find the breastplate, and in doing so you found plenty of other treasures.

A conservative estimate would put the total value of the non-magical coin and items here at around 20,000 gold.

There’s also a half-dozen magic items here including weapons, light armour and a wand.

But its all stolen; really you should hand it in to the Veltwing city guards...for them to pocket most of it themselves you think cynically. Perhaps Jathrul deserves some sort of reward too, you can still hear him grabbing as much as he can.

What do you do?

>Take it all (requires defeating the thieves first, or teleporting with it – which?)
>Take as much as you can easily carry, then leave
>Take only the breastplate
>Other (what?)

And Jathrul

>Can keep what he’s grabbed
>Gets nothing
>Other (what?)

Teleporting with all this treasure will take almost all the regular arcane energy you have left.

>>41174809
>Take as much as you can easily carry, then leave

>Can keep what he’s grabbed(until we teleported out, when he hands it all over to us)

>>41174809
>Take as much as you can easily carry, then leave
We won't defeat the thieves without using more AE, and then we wouldn't have enough to teleport the treasure out, so it would be pointless.

>Can keep what he’s grabbed, for now

>>41174809
Just leave. Tell Jathrul to meet you tomorrow if he can - we can lift the geas off him then.

>>41174809

>Take as much as you can easily carry, then leave
>>Can keep what he’s grabbed

>>41174809
>Take as much as you can easily carry, then leave
>Can keep what he’s grabbed

>>41174833
The vote to take everything is an either kill the thieves or teleport away kind of thing, I think. We wouldn't have to do both.

As much as you can grab, and Jathrul gets to keep what he's picked up.

>>41174914
>The vote to take everything is an either kill the thieves or teleport away kind of thing, I think. We wouldn't have to do both.

Correct

>>41174914
>We wouldn't have to do both.
How would we do that? Carry it out physically?

You full your pockets and pouches with gold and valuable items, making sure to take all of the magical items as well – you can identify them later.

When you’re carrying so much treasure that you jingle you say to Jathrul “enough, time to leave.”

[3,000 gold gained]
[6 magic items gained: wand; shortsword; whip; chain shirt; belt; headband]
[Greensteel Breastplate gained]

“Just a bit more!” begs Jathrul, bent double under the weight of what he’s carrying.

“No” you say “We go now!” and touching him, you teleport out of there to an empty alleyway far away, somewhere near Jathruls shack. There’s only the two of you around.

“Urgh...” says Jathrul, not taking the teleportation well.

When he’s recovered he takes a few steps away as if to leave, then turns to face where he thinks you are, still carrying all his treasure.

You’re cradling the heavy breastplate in your arms, the breastplate Jathrul took from the body of your closest friend.

“So uh, we’re even?” he says “You’ll remove the spell?”

What do you do?
>Let him leave, but don’t remove the spells
>Remove both spells
>Persuade him to come to the school and help your club
>Kill him
>Other (what?)

>>41175042
>Kill him

>>41175042
>Kill him
I don't want him to sell us out when the thieves guild catches him again.

>>41175042
>Let him leave, but don’t remove the spells
His aid should be worth at least his life, and he might be useful in the future if we ever have business in this city again.

>>41175074
He literally can't if we don't remove the spells, otherwise he explodes.

>>41175042
>Remove both spells
he led us here, he helped out and he has no reason to go after us. There is no reason to murder him.

>>41175077
>He literally can't if we don't remove the spells
Or soemone else does it. Its not impossible and a risk I'm not willing to take.
Its not like we're the only wizard in the world.

>>41175084
He has to resist them being removed to the death and isn't allowed to seek their removal, otherwise he explodes.

>>41175042
>killing him wont bring back thorin
>get him to join the club

>>41175091
>He has to resist them being removed to the death
Doesn't mean he will succeed, paralyze him, dispell, poof gone they are.

>>41175042
>Kill him

>>41175094
I honestly can't think of a situation where that could happen.

>>41175116
We literally did that in PoJ.
We didn't even bother paralyzing actually. We just knocked him out.
Its incredibly easy.

>>41175042
Hard choice but...
>Let him leave, but don’t remove the spells
Just in case the thiefes catch him.

Welp, looks like Jathrul reached the end of his usefulness.

>>41175042
>>Remove both spells
then

>Persuade him to come to the school and help your club

>>41175128
So the situation would just require us to send him to kill someone of extreme mercy and power.

That's so likely.

>>41175116
>someone looks for the guy that robbed the thieves guild
>catches him
>finds out he can't talk because of geas
>knocks him out
>dispells
>Bam
Or he could just threaten to torture him to make him talk about all the things he can talk about. Since our geass was hardly loophole free.

>>41175145
>So the situation would just require us to send him to kill someone of extreme mercy and power.
I have no idea what you're trying to say here.

The principle we applied there would have worked with anyone, the specific people involved don't matter. It just needs to be someone who is as powerful as Sallazar.

We're playing a psychopath that should be let nowhere near children, it seems.
Edgy.

>>41175138
>looks like Jathrul reached the end of his usefulness.
War traumatized wizards man, don't fuck with them.

>>41175192
>killing the dude who desecrated your best friends corpse
>edgy
This word really has come to mean "decisions I don't like".

Now there come important questions
Have we left anything that can be used to scry for us behind
And
Why the hell haven't we burned this shithole before leaving

>>41175205
are you personally from some third world shithole where this is considered a valid reason to murder someone in cold blood?

or do you think that sallazar is a psychopath?
I guess he is a wizard so it would make some sense. It just makes him kinda hypocritical when talking of things like teamwork, trust, morality etc...

>>41175243
>Why the hell haven't we burned this shithole before leaving
Because the fire would have most likely sprung over to other nearby buildings and caused a potentially large aranging conflagration killing dozens of innocents in the process?

>>41175248
>are you personally from some third world shithole where this is considered a valid reason to murder someone in cold blood?
Maybe you should try this "role-playing" thing, in which you portray the actions of a person that perhaps doesn't share your cultural values.

And the fact that "murder hum" was a option ever since we heard about what he did, its pretty obvious where Sallazar comes from this IS worth murdering him over.

>>41175158
Salazar is a pretty strong wizard, it's a little difficult to imagine there's anyone that would be anyone interested in the matters of this guild, able to defeat his spell and foolish enough to think that antagonizing a Capital-W Wizard is worth the 3,000 gold and handful of magic items we took.

Unless one of them is secretly an artifact of doom/anti-doom.

>>41175192
I think it's kinda funny how Salazar wants to help and protect the girls when he himself is more broken than any of them. Except maybe Tisinia.

But this isn't much of an edgy action, Salazar's anger is mostly justified. Personally, I just have a hard time killing people that aren't hurting others or getting in the way, and even that varies depending on how important the way in question is.

>>41175277
It's less that it's socially acceptable and more that he is extremely pissed over the whole "desecrated his blood-brother's corpse for personal gain instead of bringing back his body" thing, I think.

>>41175277
not that guy but man, please dont bring the roleplaying, or in character, arguement up. not everyone play the quest like that

>>41175303
>It's less that it's socially acceptable and more that he is extremely pissed over the whole "desecrated his blood-brother's corpse for personal gain instead of bringing back his body" thing, I think.
I see no reason why both can't be true.
As far as we can see it emulates a mostly medivalish/renaissance mindset, and then killing someone for corpse desecration was considered a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

>>41175310
>not everyone play the quest like that
These people will have to understand that most others don't give a shit about their opinion then.

>>41175323
fair enough, but same goes for everyone, really. also sorry, forgot to remove name

>>41175277
Ok. So maybe we took a concept of honor murder from the dwarves or someone. I wonder what other murderhobo concepts we picked up.

>murder him was an option
there was also option to murder helpless prisoners in paladin quest, and it would be just as retarded to take. The only difference was that OP was compelled to point out that there's risk of falling involved.

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

>>41175303
>Salazar is a pretty strong wizard, it's a little difficult to imagine there's anyone that would be anyone interested in the matters of this guild, able to defeat his spell and foolish enough to think that antagonizing a Capital-W Wizard is worth the 3,000 gold and handful of magic items we took.

Well, it was pretty strongly hinted this Hostern was some sort of created or at least modified being.
And 'someone' did that. We can't even be sure he led the guild in the first place.
Its a fantasy setting, weird shit can happen.

I wouldn't argue we absolutely needed to kill him for reasons of safety, even if it helps.
It did however tip the balance in favour of killing him for me.

>>41175352
>there was also option to murder helpless prisoners in paladin quest
I don't remember that. And even if it was the case, that doesn't disprove my point.
Killing them WAS a thing that was reasonable to do within the context of the situation and characters.
I never said that killing him is or would be considered the 'right' thing to do.

>>41175376
So it's just an option you think Sallazar would take.

Which brings me to initial point that it makes him really fucked up and probably unfit to serve as a teacher.

>>41175403
Soldiers rarely are

>>41175303
>But this isn't much of an edgy action, Salazar's anger is mostly justified
Sallazar has what he came for - the breastplate. He certainly has reasons to be angry at the thief, like him calling him names earlier. But he did help him recover the relic, against his will or not.

>>41175352
>Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

And just because you shouldn't doesn't mean you won't.

Sal has a very personal grievances against this person, and has been put on the razor's edge of temper when he learned that this supposed loyal spy looted his best friend and beloved dwarven prince.

>>41175403
We've already established that Sallazar is an older PTSD Ron Weasley.

>>41175403
>Which brings me to initial point that it makes him really fucked up and probably unfit to serve as a teacher.
And I say it doesn't, because its most likely considered a understandable reaction in this settings value system.
Its not the moral high ground option, doesn't mean it would be considered evil or inappropriate.

>>41175423
Plenty of people with understandable reactions in a modern values system still aren't the kinds of people you want teaching children.

>>41175415
>But he did help him recover the relic, against his will or not.
No, he should have recovered the corpse rather than focusing on stealing from him and his Clan.

Its obvious that not being able to recover the body is a huge deal for Sallazar and Tharandels people.

“Put the treasure down” you say to Jathrul.

“What?” he says

“Put the gold down, all of it” you say

“Why?” he asks, looking suspicious

“I’m going to end the spells” you say “if you’ve picked up any magical objects that might interfere, and things might go...wrong.” It’s all a lie of course, but Jathrul seems to believe you.

He puts down the box of gold he’s carrying, and empties his pockets and pouches onto it.

Finally he says “well?” and gives you an expectant look.

“Betrayers Reward” you say. As you invoke the contingent spell Jathrul simply disintegrates, he doesn’t have enough time to curse you, or even look surprised.

And then you’re alone in the alleyway, after killing a helpless person whom you had enslaved.

You start to pile your own stolen goods atop the box, ready to levitate it and then teleport back to the inn. You put the breastplate down first, and then start piling up other valuables and coin.

All whilst the Greensteel Breastplate seems to stare at you.

“What?” you ask it “What was I supposed to do Thrandel?”

The breastplate doesn’t respond.

“Oh sure” you say “I *could* have let him go. And when they found him, and tortured him, and maybe found a mage who could break my spells, what then?”

The Breastplate is still silent.

“What, you think I did it because I was scared?” you ask “I’m not – I could have turned that whole building into a smoking ruin, and you know it! You think I’m scared of them sending killers after me? Every assassin they have could have come at me at once and I wouldn’t be scared. We found the Kirukan together Thrandel – the best dark elf assassin they have, and we beat them! I’m not scared!”

The Breastplate still doesn’t respond to your outburst. But maybe, just maybe, you can hear Thrandel speaking. You remember when he sent that knight away.

>>41175421
not loyal, dude was serving time because he was caught iirc

“The measure of a good leader is in the loyalty of those who follow him” Thrandel had said, sat in judgement of the knight, after he’d blamed you for the battle losses that day, losses that were as a result of the knights poor orders.

“The loyalty of others is not your right, or even mine” Thrandel had said “We must earn it, every day, by deed and word. We cannot allow fear, or anger, or a desire for retribution to overcome us. We must rise above these things, we must be an example for others to follow.”

You realise its not his voice you hear, its your own “We must rise above these things, we must be an example for others to follow.” you finish.

You stare at the spot where Jathrul was standing, only moments ago. Then you sit down on the box, and start to cry.

“I never meant to kill you Thrandel, I’m so sorry, forgive me....”

[6,000 gold gained]
---
The next morning, you rise late, in fact you only wake when you hear a fist banging on your door.

“Professor are you coming to breakfast?” Its Cleya. You open your eyes and look around, and the events of last night come flooding back. Last night you kept enough of your wits to hide all the loot.

“I’ll, I’ll be down in a few minutes” you croak out. You hear Cleya walking away.

Right, yes, must get washed, dressed, must be a teacher, must be an example.

You head downstairs and join the girls at the breakfast table, barely hearing their conversation, something about to one of the city parks this morning, before your designated meeting at midday, to officially present your team for registration.

What are you doing today? (before registration)

>Go with the girls
>Go back to sleep (timeskip to registration)
>Make magic items (what?)
>Other (what?)

>>41175466
>Go with the girls

>>41175423
>killing some guy just because I'm angry is not evil or inappropriate
okay

>killing some guy because he's witness to us busting up a small-time thieves guild is not evil or inappropriate
yeah, because new leader of those thieves who could barely afford a hedge wizard to assist negotiations will spend inordinate amount of resources to track down someone who obliterated his former boss along with bodyguard and walked into his treasury like nobody's business.

>>41175466
>Go with the girls

>>41175466
>Stay in your room
>give the girls an extra two gold for the day
>apologize to Chame
>Spend the day being generally drained after yesterday's emotional rollercoaster.

>>41175466
>Other (what?)
Check that loot

>>41175447
Enough to murder people over in a dank alleyway, apparently.

I'm done with this argument, what's done is done. Just remember what your line of reasoning does to the character. And perhaps what it does yourself as well.

>>41175466
>Go with the girls
Probably good to spend some of that money for something nice.

>>41175499
>And perhaps what it does yourself as well.
Man, anon. Its a game.
Seriously, you're starting to take this a bit more serious than is healthy.

>>41175466
>>41175489
Yeah, this. I don't think Sallazar would be particularly good at a smile, today, so...let's just stay out of the way.

>>41175466
>Go with the girls

>>41175499
>Just remember what your line of reasoning does to the character.
I liked that scene, so I can't complain.
Its not a interesting story if the character is too perfect from the start and has nowhere to develope.

I mean, that can work too, but we already play PoJ.

>>41175466

>Make magic items
can we make anti-summoning amulets? This could be a good way to put a troubled mind at ease.

The really important question is, how do we explain where we got all that gold?

>>41175530
Yup, really liked what Pally did with it.

spending time with the girls it is, writing

>>41175562
>Sadly my dear friend died from natural cause and left me with all his money

>>41175590
I suppose the headmaster is unlikely to ask for proof.

Pally, come the fuck on, dude. I didn't ask for these feels.

>>41175562
Probably truth - that we found it in the den of scum that appropriated his highness breastplate.

>>41175659
As I understood it we would have had to hand this over to the local authorities.

>>41175421
Ironically our first name is the same as the founder of House Slytherin

>>41175676
The royals will want to know where we found the relic. Maybe they'll help us deal with this technicality as well.

>>41175676
Not sure if we're actually legally required to do so in this setting. I mean, how many times have adventurers taken down thieves guilds and looted the place with no trouble from the guards?

Also, we'd only really have to explain it to the Headmaster, who is probably as cynical as us when it comes to the moral fiber of underpaid guardsmen around large amounts of wealth.

>>41175676
Nah, we could use it to fund the club. The headmaster will probably understand if Sallazar properly explains to him.

Besides, the guard is going to take it for itself anyway, might as well put to good use instead.

>>41175698
I asumed that was intentional.

>>41175723
>Nah, we could use it to fund the club. The headmaster will probably understand if Sallazar properly explains to him.
No, I'm not saying we should do that, I'm saying legally we would be required to do it.
Of course we don't.

>>41175709
>Not sure if we're actually legally required to do so in this setting.

>But its all stolen; really you should hand it in to the Veltwing city guards
This implied to me thats how it should be, but its not a clear statement.
I just don't really want to take the risk.

>>41175709
>>41175723
Wizards gonna wizard.

You head out with the girls as they go out to the park. Its a beautiful autumn day and the sunlight brings out the varied colours in the leaves as you all walk through the gardens.

You see sculptures of local artists, impossible-looking fountains and ponds with water flowing uphill, rolling acres of meticulously maintained lawn for people to sit and eat picnics on, rare trees and plants imported from across the continent, and birds of all shapes and sizes, and of glorious colours.

At least, you register that those things are there, as you walk with the girls; they’re of little interest to you right now.

You keep reliving the events of last night, what you did, and how Thrandel would have reacted, had he been there.

You’re quiet throughout your walk in the gardens. And it’s no surprise that it does not go unnoticed.

You all stop for a drink and a small repast, before leaving. You leave the girls at a table whilst you collect the food, and catch the tail-end of a whispered conversation as you come back, trying to avoid dropping the platter of food as you approach slowly.

“You ask him” whispers Nevyn.

“Why don’t you?” demands Cleya

“I don’t know what to say” protests Nevyn “Kittrane-”

“No” says Kittrane “he needs space, leave him alone, and leave me alone.”

“Chame?” asks Cleya “Could you cheer him up, claim you’re in love with his hat and want to elope with it or something?”

“No way, no how, nuh uh” says Chame, shaking her head frantically “Oh shh, he’s back!”

You sit down, and share the plates out, without speaking. Finally, Cleya plucks up the courage.

“Uhm sir” she says “are you sick? Is it something Chame did?”

“Hey!” protests Chame “I did n- uh,” she catches your eye, and then shuts up, and goes back to eating. But you can still feel her attention on you, as the other three look at you.

What do you say?
>I’m just ill, it will pass
>Apologise to Chame
>Tell them the truth about last night
>Tell them about Thrandel, about how he died
>Other (what?)

>>41175760
>Apologise to Chame
>Tell them about Thrandel, about how he died

>>41175760
>Apologise to Chame
>Tell them the truth about last night
The story will help them mature.

>>41175760
>I was just reminded of bad memories yesterday.
>Apologise to Chame

>>41175750
>Apologise to Chame
>Tell them about Thrandel, about how he died

>>41175760
Chame was the mimic right?
>Yes it's because of her that I was late for something very important to me
>They defeated dragon before I got here and all I could do was help them with moving loot
>You are horrible mimic Chame

>>41175777
I don't think they need to mature quite that quickly, especially after what we told the elf.

>>41175760
>I’m just ill, it will pass

>>41175771
>>41175780
You really want to ruin their day too?
This isn't he time for that kind of talk.

>>41175760
>It's nothing
Or any other version of this that won't make them hate us

>>41175794
I felt Sally might be up for a rant. But you're right, some restraint might also be in order.

changing >>41175780 to just
>Apologise

>>41175760
>I was just reminded of bad memories yesterday.
>Apologise to Chame

>>41175777
I don't want us to be known as "killer teacher"

>>41175760
>Tell them you had to say final goodbye to a friend last night. He left a few things behind we have to take care of.
>Apologise to Chame

>>41175760
>I was just reminded of some bad memories yesterday.
>Apologise to Chame

>>41175760
>I was just reminded of bad memories yesterday.
>Apologise to Chame

>>41175794
It's not going to ruin their day at all. They will just be more sympathetic to Salla, but it won't ruin anything for them.

>>41175824
>It's not going to ruin their day at all.
Its a pretty sad and dark story, its definitly goin g to stick on their minds for a while.
Especially Kittrane.

>>41175760
>>41175771
Changing to:
>I was just reminded of bad memories yesterday.
>Apologise to Chame

>>41175834
I think it will be a good bonding experience overall.

Apologise + bad memories

“I’m not sick” you say “I was just reminded or some bad memories yesterday, friends I lost during the war.”

Kittrane shifts in her seat, and seems to be paying more attention.

“It made me angry” you say “and sad, and ashamed” you look at Chame “and as a result I said some things I shouldn’t have, Chame” she looks up at you, still looking a little scared “I’m sorry for what I said Chame, I was wrong and I shouldn’t have said it. I can’t take those words back, but I want you to know that I’d never hurt you – I mean that.”

All the gazes shift to Chame, you gives a slightly shaky smile “Ok sir, um, that’s ok, all forgiven.”

Ah good, it seems Chame will get over what happened between you after a-

“But if you’re feeling guilty” says Chame, leaning in and almost whispering “my grades in Arcane Theory could use a little boost-”

The other three girls all groan and pelt Chame with bits of food. As Chame laughs you think yeah, she’s over it.
---
“That’s it?” You ask the Adventurers League Official

“Of course Sir” he says with a small smile “did you think there’d be more?”

“Well, yes” you say.

You are all at the Lysvan Adventurers guild and a balding old man has taken your name, and the names of the girls with you, and then signed your club registration forms. And that’s it. You’re all sat in a small office.

“You’re not going to I dunno, check they’re not illusions?” You ask

“Or check if we’re really gir-hmmm!” Chame cuts off as Kittrane helpfully claps a hand over her mouth.

“Are they illusions?” asks the Adventurers League Official, with that same small smile.

“Uh, no” you say, still wrong-footed “But-”

“You’ve filled out the forms, you are from a recognised school, welcome to the Junior League” says the Official “Now, here is the rulebook” he hands to a thick book “and the League match-booking requirements” a much thinner book “And, ah yes, your team, Felstrum”

“Fell Storm” you say

“Hey how about Fell Strumpet-” Kittrane helpfully gags Chame again.

“Yes, anyway” says the official “You’ve registered as evil, an excellent choice” and he hands you a piece of paper.

It reads

---

Evil Party Rules
Congratulations on choosing the Smart Path to Success

Evil Parties benefit from the following special rules

i) Evil Spells: Can use up to Rank 4 *evil* spells in competitions; they are limited to Rank 1-3 spells for non-evil spells. The default limit is rank 3 for all teams.

ii) Evil Gear: The number of magic items each member can have is increased from 3 to 5, these two additional items must be *evil* magic items.

iii) Minions: Each party member can have one of the following:
- One Strong Minion (Large elemental, Vampire, moderately powerful demon or equivalent);
- Two Medium-strength Minions (Medium elemental, Ghost or Ghast, minor demon or equivalent);
- Five Weak Minions (Small elemental, zombie or skeleton or equivalent).

The party member must demonstrate the ability to control these themselves, though items that enable this are permitted.

iv) Capture and Torture*: Upon capturing an enemy, including another adventurer, the evil team can ask them up to three questions, which they must answer correctly, though they can omit details not requested. Truth spells are used to confirm honestly

*Actually torturing anyone is grounds for disqualification, and possible criminal charges.

We wish you all the best on your path to world domination!

---

All the girls lean in to read the leaflet.

“Can I have some dancing skeletons?” asks Chame

“When are we going to get magic items?” asks Nevyn.

“What counts as evil?” asks Kittrane. You suspect that’s in the rulebook.

Well it seems your meeting is over. You could get the next train back to school, but you’ll arrive at about 1am. You could spend the rest of the day in Veltwing too.

What do you all do?

Group of Girls

>On the train back to school (Sallazar goes too)
>Rest of the day in the city, doing what they want (give more gold?)
>Other activity (what?)
>Other (what?)

Sallazar?

>Stick with the girls
>Visit the Greensteel holdings in the city
>Make magic items (what?)
>Other (what?)

>>41176260
>On the train back to school (Sallazar goes too)
Let's go back and make new teams.

>>41176260
>Rest of the day in the city, doing what they want (give more gold?)
>Five gold again
>Visit the Greensteel holdings in the city

>>41176260
>Rest of the day in the city, doing what they want (5)
>Visit the Greensteel holdings in the city

>>41176260
>Rest of the day in the city, doing what they want (give more gold?)
3 gold
>Visit the Greensteel holdings in the city

>>41176260
>On the train back to school (Sallazar goes too)

>>41176260
>Rest of the day in the city, doing what they want (give more gold?)
3 gold
>Visit the Greensteel holdings in the city

>>41176260
>On the train back to school (Sallazar goes too)
>>41176281
>>41176284
>>41176300
Why?

So are life savings of a peasant in this setting 1 gold?

>>41176321
>Why?
To give them the breastplate...
I'm more wondering about the people that DON'T want to give it to them.

>>41176260
>Rest of the day in the city, doing what they want (give more gold?)
5
>Visit the Greensteel holdings in the city
>>41176321
Breastplate you forgetful fool

>>41176331
1 gold allows a single person to live comfortably for 1 day, including food and housing

>>41176353
This plane must be rich as fuck

>>41176331
>>41176348
D'oh. Right, I forgot what the name was.
>>41176321
Changing to
>Rest of the day in the city, doing what they want (10)
>Visit the Greensteel holdings in the city

>>41176245
I assume we get a overview what exactly "evil" spells and items are?

>iii) Minions: Each party member can have one of the following:
One each? Thats a lot of minions.
Sadly we have no one capable of making or controlling minions in Team Evil right now, though Cleya will certainly have some soon.

>>41176384
>Cleya creates a Vampire as she defines vampire

>>41176437
I think you confuse her with Calluna.

5 gold each for the girls, and you go to pay your respects.

You want more feels huh?

>>41176437
>>41176446
Speaking of which.

>>41176454
Could Calluna count as "vampire" minion for Team Evil?
I mean, its not like most people would know the difference.

Yes. Yes I do.

>>41176454
They feed me.

>>41176463
>Could Calluna count as "vampire" minion for Team Evil?

Yes. Although she's not a true vampire, she's close enough that the team officials will most likely let her.

>>41176454
It's the IC thing to do.

I also honestly expect the girls to tail us.

>>41176480
And her being a registered member òf another Team doesn't conflict with that?

>>41176511
Technically we can have anyone we want in the team. These four are here just to prove that the team exists.

>>41176511
Only if it was a Good team, or had a theme that opposed her *master* in some way.

>>41176529
>Technically we can have anyone we want in the team.
Yeah sure, its more about the difference between Minion and Team Member.

>>41176543
How do they feel about Fallen Angel minions?

>>41176245
Those minion rules are pretty damn strong, both in conflict with other parties and in their own dungeon runs, you can have effectively 8 members.
I wonder what sort of perks other themes get.

I wonder how much forbidden love occurs at Saint Egwen's.

>>41176695

> open to romantic relationships with other girls (fairly common at Egwen)

>>41176710
I really hope Sallazar catches on that "ribbon-system" at some point and we can find out what each mean.

>>41176695
I found myself wondering last night if Chame could turn into a boy.

I may have been on a /d/ TG thread at the time. But that's beside the point.

>>41176766
>I found myself wondering last night if Chame could turn into a boy.
She could take the shape of one.

You hand out coins to the girls and tell them to have a good time, and to be back at the inn by 6pm, for you to all pick up your bags, and get on the lightning rail.

When the thanks and hugs are over (did someone just grab your ass?) you set out for the Greensteel holdings, alone.

The Greensteel clan is large, as expected of a ruling clan, and so they are spread out. Here in Veltwing they are heavily involved in the banking industry.

You take a cab to the Greensteel headquarters: a vast stone building bearing their coat of arms. Inside there are rows of cashiers, desks for depositing valuables, desks for letters of payment, an entire section for borrowing money, and other obscure financial functions.

You head to the enquiries desk and after explaining why you’re here, and showing your military papers you are shown into a small room where a pair of elderly dwarves examine the breastplate.

The converse in quiet dwarven, apparently unaware that you’re fluent in it.

“This is the royal armour, to be sure” says one

“Should we call the guard?” asks the other “he might have stolen it”

“Not our call, get the Director.”

One dwarf goes to the door, calls over a young dwarven boy and hands him a hastily written note saying “Office of Director Genhardt”

Genhardt, where have you heard that name befo- ah, yes, your trial. He demanded you be executed.

You start mentally rehearsing the gestures and words to raise your Spell Mantle.

Finally the boy comes back, panting and out of breath “The Director” he gasps “The Director demands to see you, now!”

The two elderly dwarves lead you up to an office on the top floor of the building. You pass through a door carved with runes and feel a wash of magic cover you as you enter. Ah yes, that’s familiar, Thrandel had something similar on the doors to his throne room.

Any magic in here will be very difficult to cast, you’ll struggle to even cast anything except Abjuration spells.

The dwarves lay the breastplate on a truly massive desk in the middle of the room, then retreat.

In this vast room there is only you...and a smartly-dressed dwarf staring out of the window, with his back to you.

You wait, finally he speaks “I suppose you want thanking for that” he says, yup, its Genhardt alright. He speaks perfect common tongue, with a high-class Lysvan accent.

He’s Thrandels distant cousin, and no matter how much wealth and political power he gains, he will never be King. Thrandel told you this one evening, told you of the jealousy that drives him, the avarice and the bitterness.

Genhardt will take the breastplate back, of that you have no doubt, but your name won’t be spoken at all when he returns it.

What do you do?

>Just leave, you did what you came for (exclusive)
>Ask why he wanted you killed
>Ask what will become of the breastplate now
>Other (what?)

>>41176611
Allowed

>>41176689
Evil and Good teams have the best rules for sheer power.

Other themes tend to have specific areas of specialty.

>>41176824
>Ask why he wanted you killed

>>41176824
>Just leave, you did what you came for (exclusive)
No need for words

>>41176824
>Just leave, you did what you came for (exclusive)

>>41176824
>Ask why he wanted you killed
>Ask what will become of the breastplate now
Come on dudes, let's get some more backstory.

>>41176824
>Ask why he wanted you killed

>>41176824
>Just leave, you did what you came for (exclusive)
We got what we came for, we didn't want thanks from the Clan only to make sure as much of Thrandel can come back as we could manage.

>>41176824
>Ask why he wanted you killed
>Ask what will become of the breastplate now

>>41176851
>Allowed

Excellent.

>>41176824
>Just leave, you did what you came for (exclusive)
I have bad experiences with letting anons talk to family members about people we technically got killed.
Fuck that.

>>41176933
Are you still mad about that vote in Psychic Rebel?

>>41176824
>Just leave, you did what you came for (exclusive)

>>41176824

>>41176824

"I didn't do it for you. I did it for him."

Then

>Ask why he wanted you killed

>>41176933
That's completely unrelated.

>>41176952
I'm not mad, I just learned from it.

>>41176916
Eh, I'd rather throw Janrael and maybe Calluna on the Good team.

>>41176824
>Just leave, you did what you came for (exclusive)

>>41176824
>Ask why he wanted you killed

>>41176977
I'm not interested in making a "Good" themed team to begin with unless several of the girls really want one.

>>41176824
>>Ask why he wanted you killed
>Did it for him, not for thanks.

>>41176824

>Ask why he wanted you killed

More background and feels please!

>>41176968
I was gonna say that. Then I corrected myself.

The option is to talk to him about why he demanded our execution, which probably has something to do with our bro.

>>41176968
Not at all, he wanted us executed for killing Thrandal. Its compeltly related.

looks like leaving is a winner by 1 vote in the 10 minute limit.

writing, but please check my count.

>>41177039
6/5 for leaving is correct.

“I didn’t do this for your thanks” you say, and then turn and walk out, but not before you hear Genhardt say loud enough for you to hear “Clanless filth.”

You keep walking, and you keep a grip on your temper.

Once you’re outside the Greensteel Bank Head Office you can breathe again without feeling like there are iron bands around your chest.

You still have several hours yet before your lightning rail ride home. But what to do?

You could wander around the city, or go and buy some things for the club, or yourself. Some of your purchases will need to be delivered of course.

Or you could catch up with the girls, or work on magic items, or do something else.

What do you do?

>Just wander (timeskip to train ride)
>Go shopping (follow-up discussion/vote for what)
>Join the girls
>Make magic items (what?)
>Other (what?)

>>41177173
>Go shopping (follow-up discussion/vote for what)
Get some souvenirs for the girls that couldn't come.

>>41177173
>Go shopping (follow-up discussion/vote for what)

>>41177173
>Make magic items (what?)
>Amulet/bracers/whatever Protection against Evil

>>41176977
I kinda want to put Calluna, Phoebe, Anlanesa and whoever learns druid on a "Get Huge" team.

>>41177173
>Go shopping (follow-up discussion/vote for what)

>>41177173
>>41177194
Second.

Let's get Calluna a fourth dimensional cube.

>>41177217
>Implying Calluna isn't going to be the team druid

>>41177224
>she wonders why we got her a normal cube
Or alternative
>Its literally the only "normal" feeling thing in this world for her and she keep sclinging to it all the time as safety blanket

>>41177255
She already got so many classes.
But Calluna as druid would be hilarious.

I kinda want this now.

>she learns Druid from Mr. Pogostus

>>41177173
>>41177217
This

>>41177173
>Go shopping (follow-up discussion/vote for what)

>>41177287
I'm waiting for Mr. pogostus to be a minion of some sort.

I think shopping won, so writing that.

>>41177262
That sounds adorable.
I hope they have them.

Getting some souvenirs for the girls who couldn’t come would be the right thing to do, so you start trawling the shops for gifts and objects they might like.

You also think about adventuring gear and training gear for the club.

[Meta]

This is in the Classes and Races pastebin at the bottom, re-posted in thread for convenience.

Training Equipment

Weights
You buy a professional set of weights for the adventurers club
Weights increase Training Point gain by 100% when used, but these extra training points can only be used to increase Strength, Constitution or Hit Points.
You have enough weights for 2 girls to use them at a time, per set of Weights you buy.
Cost: 100gp

Combat Wheels
This complex array of poles has wooden bars sticking out of them at different heights. When spun they create an unpredictable maze of hazards for the adventurer in training to dodge through and avoid.
Combat Wheels increase Training Point gain by 100% when used, but these extra training points can only be used to increase Agility or purchase the Dodge feat
You have enough for 2 girls to use them at a time, per set you buy.
Cost: 75gp

Moving Training Dummies
Essentially human-sized puppets controlled by a series of levers, these dummies are much more fun that the ones that don’t move.
Moving Training Dummies increase Training Point gain by 100% when used, but these extra training points can only be used to buy Melee Combat or any melee weapon skill or feat.
You have enough for 2 girls to use them at a time, per set you buy.
Cost: 150gp

Apprentices Circle
A ritual circle designed to help novice arcane spellcasters focus their energies.
Moving Training Dummies increase Training Point gain by 100% when used, but these extra training points can only be used to increase Arcane Energy, and Rank 1 spellcasting or Rank 1 spells.
You have enough for 1 girl to use at a time, per circle you buy.
Cost: 250gp – this is material costs and assumes you’ll be creating it yourself, otherwise the cost would be 1,000gp+
Divine and Primordial versions of this exist, but you cannot craft them yourself.

Adepts Circle
A ritual circle designed to help adept arcane spellcasters focus their energies.
Moving Training Dummies increase Training Point gain by 200% when used, but these extra training points can only be used to increase Arcane Energy, and Rank 1 or 2 spellcasting or Rank 1 or 2 spells.
You have enough for 1 girl to use at a time, per circle you buy.
Cost: 2,000gp – this is material costs and assumes you’ll be creating it yourself, otherwise the cost would be 10,000gp+
Divine and Primordial versions of this exist, but you cannot craft them yourself.

Adventuring Gear
Every piece of adventuring gear is not tracked individually; instead they are purchased in broad categories.
Your adventurer parties can only select from available club equipment, plus any you provide yourself.

Basic Gear
Your club has adventuring gear for the girls to use.
Includes but is not limited to: ropes, spikes, hammer, 10ft pole, lamps, backpacks, caltrops
Cost: 100gp

One-handed Melee Weapons
Your club has a variety of one-handed melee weapons for the girls to use
Cost: 50gp

Two-handed Melee Weapons
Your club has a variety of two-handed melee weapons for the girls to use
Cost: 100gp

Ranged Weapons
Your club has a variety of ranged weapons and ammunition for the girls to use
Cost: 150gp

Light Armour
Your club has a variety of light armour for the girls to use
Cost: 500gp

Medium Armour
Your club has a variety of medium armour for the girls to use
Cost: 2,000gp

Heavy Armour
Your club has a variety of heavy armour for the girls to use
Cost: 5,000gp

Healing Potions
Your club has enough healing potions for 1 per girl per dungeon
Cost: 2,000gp
Can be purchased multiple times to allow multiple healing potions per trip
The cost can be reduced if you recruit the right trainers

[End Meta]

15 minutes to discuss what gear to buy, if there’s no consensus, a vote will be called.

For souvenirs and gifts, please write-in suggestions. Those girls without a suggested gift will probably get some cloth and/or jewellery-making stuff – as the other girls have bought for themselves.

Healing potions 2000
One hand melee 50
Ranged 150
light armor 500
Apprentices circle 250
2950 gp

>>41177596
Horseshoes and a riding crop for Phaysis.
Some horn decoration for Evrumine.
A snowglobe for Anlanesa

>>41177596
Seems like what we definitly need is Basic Gear, all the weapon purchases and the Light Armour.

Beyond that, getting all the cheap Trainings Equipment, Weights, Wheels, Dummies, Apprentice Circle is probably a good idea too.

>>41177564
>>41177579
Weights, combat wheels, moving training dummies and adepts circle. One of each. I see no reason not to, considering we've got the funds and it helps.
Maybe healing potions once.

And I've just spotted my copy/paste error, fixing.

>>41177596
Sallazar needs to buy a cute dress for himself.

>>41177654
Also don't we already have everything under adventuring gear? Since it says that our club has it already.

>>41177596
Weights, Moving Dummies, Combat Wheels, Adept's circle, Basic Gear, Light and Medium Armor, One handed, two handed, and ranged weapons.

Total comes out to 5525 gold.

So could we technically buy components for Master circle?
would it even have use for us
Also you all have to remember that this is our money and we are using it on something that school should be paying for

>>41177677
you have basic training gear.

Adventuring gear is a separate purchase.

>>41177596
Dildos for everyone! Or shotguns, that also works.

Guys I have this great idea
what about identifying these magic items and selling them?

>>41177690
Well I'll second that then, I mean it seems reasonable enough. Helps with everything and has enough variance for everyone.
I'm >>41177654 and >>41177677

>>41177596
Weights 100g
Combat Wheels 75g
Moving Training Dummies 150g
Apprentices Circle 250g
>675g
Basic Gear 100g
One-handed Melee 50g
Two-handed Melee 100g
Ranged Weapons 150g
Light Armour 500g
Healing Potions 2000g
>2900g

>3575g
That should cover all
>>41177642
We need two-handed melee for Kittranes greataxe and Phaysis spear. Possibly also Phoebes hammer.

Having a bit of a cash reserve is probably good too. So not overspending.
Souvenirs for the girls.

Something that keeps cool or protects against heat for Anlanesa, maybe some nevermelting ice if they have something like that.
I like the four dimensional cube for Calluna.
Not sure about Evrumine and Phaysis, though Evrumine seems like the type to enjoy sweets, so that would be a decent idea.

>>41177735
Or we, you know, use them for the club.

>>41177690
Do we even have someone that will use ranged weapons?

>>41177596
2 Weight, -200 GP
2 Combat Wheels, -150 GP
2 Moving Training Dummies, -300 GP
2 Adepts Circles, -4000 GP

We have a number of girls to train in things and it is greater than 2, or 1 in the case of the Circles.

Basic Gear, -100 GP
One-handed Melee Weapons, -50 GP
Two-handed Melee Weapons, -100 GP
Ranged Weapons, -150 GP
Light Armour, -500 GP
Medium Armour, -2000 GP

Total: 7550

>>41177751
Maybe either of the girls that have 2 ranks in ranged weapon skills?

>>41177751
Yes. The one training under elven bitch, you know, the one we spent one episode for.

>>41177751
Chame and Phaysis sofar.

>>41177759
We don't have 7000 gold?

>>41177596
These potions are fucking overpriced
Can't we make them ourself?
Or know someone that can?

>>41177767
You're right, we have 9000.

>>41177751
Phaysis is training to be a ranger, and there are still other girls to recruit.
>>41177596
Seconding this >>41177690
>Weights, Moving Dummies, Combat Wheels, Adept's circle, Basic Gear, Light and Medium Armor, One handed, two handed, and ranged weapons.

>>41177769
Going off DnD rules, it has to be someone who can at least do the spell. So maybe Janrael?

>>41177769
>Can't we make them ourself?

You can't cast healing spells

>Or know someone that can?

Druids, Rangers, Priests and some of the girls can, if they can make magic items.

>>41177777
Buying two of each training gear is still waste of money
We aren't in fucking arms race

>>41177769
>The cost can be reduced if you recruit the right trainers

>>41177769
>These potions are fucking overpriced
It means potions for everyone forever.
There is nothing overpriced about it.

>>41177777
>You're right, we have 9000.
I'm pretty sure the 6000 are in total, not in addition to the other 3000 we got. So each of us and Jathrul carried 3000.

>>41177801
He's got pentas, that means that he's right

>>41177788
How hard would it be to make local druids to it for us?
Or the ranger we already employed?

>>41177816
sub 2000 gold hard

>>41177788
Pally, could you clarify how much we actually got right now?

>>41177789
Maybe, but we have 3 or 4 girls that want to learn magic and the circles can only handle one at a time. I wouldn't bet on only two girls wanting to learn one of the physical things during a single session, and those are cheap as hell, so I figured getting 2 of each wasn't a big deal.

>>41177801
>Personal Money
>9,300 gold
>Receives 50 gold/week from teaching job

>>41177840
So we put the girls on rotation. Every girl gets it for a day

>>41177840
Turns out pentas make right. I'm all for spending over 70% of our money for someone elses betterment. Especially since most of it came from murder and PTSD.

>>41177840
>so I figured getting 2 of each wasn't a big deal
It means we are nearly down in our treasury, and we might want to buy stuff later too.
Like magic items, or stuff for particular themes.

>>41177837
Club funds 250 gold

Your money 9,300 gold

>>41177855
>>41177861
So one of each on rotation then?
And then adventuring gear, which comes out to:
2325 for training equipment and
2800 for adventuring gear, sans heavy armour and basic gear.
For 5125 total.
Unless you want to get double of weights, wheels and training dummies along with getting one apprentice circle, then it comes out to 5700 total.