>>40766711
Dat pic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU

Ran a game where the players were Brotherhood of Nod Black Hand operatives doing shady shit to force GDI into open war prior to the First Tiberium War.

>the empire
>villains

are you literally stupid?

>>40766711
>Bounty Hunter employed by a Sith Lord
>Kill Sith Lord's enemies for him, glory to the Empire, etc.
>Sith Lord reneges on our contract
>Kill Sith Lord in full view of his ship crew
>Get paid anyway
>greatsuccess.jpg

Was the Empire shown to do anything evil besides blowing up Alderaan, which was planning a rebellion anyway?

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>>40768637
We went over this. The flag of a united human space empire should not favor any single nation. It should represent what we all share: our blood and our skulls.

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>>40769695
Beautiful.

>>40769695
>Implying niggers skulls look anything like that.

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>>40770045
go back to /pol/ bitch

>>40769172
>Was the Empire shown to do anything evil besides blowing up Alderaan, which was planning a rebellion anyway?
Well, not in the good movies anyways. EU had some content on that (the military's "humans only" policy for example) and it's generally implied that they're giving everyone a hard time. Gotta keep in mind though, the empire itself was technically still in the making when Episode IV started. Ruling an entire galaxy takes time.

>>40769172
>Was the Empire shown to do anything evil besides blowing up Alderaan, which was planning a rebellion anyway?

Yes

...Oh you want specifics. In just the original trilogy.
Slaughtering innocent Jawas.
Slaughtering innocent moisture farmers.
Seizing a private business for a military operation without appropriate compensation.
Allowing a religious figure with no official political or military position to murder military officers.

>>40772835
What is morphological differences in hominid skulls?

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>>40769172
Now that the EU is non-canon, no. Not a damn thing besides that. They really tried too hard to make the Empire Nazi-tier evil in the EU, they gave them giant genocide-ships where they abducted entire cities worth of aliens and tossed them into giant ovens for fucks sake. It was so fucking ham-fisted.

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>>40773159
>innocent Jawas

>>40773159
Oh I forgot torture and the equivalent of handing over a political prisoner to a colombian drug cartel to be further tortured and executed.

>>40769172
>Aside from killing billions of noncombatants because the planet's government supported a rebellion.

Yeah, what's so evil about that.

Of course we also having burning farmers alive because they unwittingly bought droids with rebel plans on them.

Slaughtering over a dozen droid salesmen who just found the droids in the wastes.

And we've also got taking over cloud city and threatening to kill Lando.

They're evil m8. Real evil.

>>40773239
Despite Luke's concerns about the legality of the droids, unattended flotsam from a shipwreck is legitimate salvage.

>>40773159
>>40773239
https://youtu.be/jlp9DHKDg6c?t=50s

>>40773159
>>40773283
To be fair, the slaughter of a few innocents (not Aldeeran, that's just plain evil) is to be expected of a military state trying to protect its secrets. Governments have been doing shit like this since the dawn of time. They're usually just a tad more subtle about doing so.
Most of the "truly evil" stuff happened in the EU.

>>40773356
>To be fair, the slaughter of a few innocents (not Aldeeran, that's just plain evil) is to be expected of a military state trying to protect its secrets
>To be fair
The fact that it's unoriginal evil doesn't make it not evil.

>>40773377
>The fact that it's unoriginal evil doesn't make it not evil.
As I said, every state in like forever has been doing so. I don't think the empire considers this evil. Now Aldeeran, Aldeeran could be considered evil and/or brutal, even by the empire's standards.

>>40773356
the express slaughter of innocents is always evil. Its one of the reason Military States generally fall under the umbrella of evil organizations.

>>40773508
>the express slaughter of innocents is always evil. Its one of the reason Military States generally fall under the umbrella of evil organizations.
Viewed from an outside perspective, yes. As I stated in >>40773412, I'm also considering their perspective. If you're macchiavellian enough to base your whole state on an "ends justify means" policy, then slaughter of innocents may simply be for the "greater good".
My point being: There are things atrocious enough that even members of the imperium consider them evil. That's my threshold for "truly evil". Aldeeran fits that. And if we're counting the bad trilogy, the slaughter of innocent jedi apprentices probably also did.

>>40773412
you don't use the evil guys rulebook to define what is evil...

>>40773412
It was. That was the whole point. Tarkin wanted to strike fear into the hearts of the rebels and any potential rebels. The plan was that decades later, when someone would suggest that perhaps the Empire is not that nice and people should rise up and demand change, they could just say "remember Alderaan?" and that would shut them up.

>>40773550
You should for "truly evil", because history is written by the winners, etc...
See >>40773544.

I'm just saying that had the empire won, none of these deeds would ever be considered evil at all. Aldeeran might.

>>40773189
So I guess you haven't seen rebels?
The new canon has loads of evil shit going on. Like kids that do suspiciously too well at the academy are taken away by the inquisition and never seen again. Sending people to re-education camps for operating pirate radio stations. Desecration of a corpse. Forced lobot-ization of alien workers. More summery executions of government officials for perceived incompetence. Abuse of eminent domain. Slavery

>>40773567
I never understood the idea behind the whole "Tarkin Doctrine" because he went ahead and turned what was formerly a premier fighting force into a shadow of its former self all just to keep up appearances when you get down to it. Someone should've told him fear only works for so long before people just stop caring about consequences and do what you don't want them to anyway.

>>40773567
The Tarkin doctrine went further than that. It was the political theory that always do everything in the most evil way possible.

>>40773573
>>40773544
Killing innocents is objectively evil. the planet was an atrocity on a monumental scale. but that doesn't change the fact that killing Joe farmer and disappearing grumpy citizen A are not evil because the government says it isn't.

>ethnic cleansing, that's an ok thing now since the empire says kill them all!
>Bob got picked up by the police for an unpaid parking ticket. his execution is scheduled for Friday.
>Jaywalking! REBEL SCUM! *pew pew*

>>40773677
Indeed. Machiavellianism doesn't work in the long run. I suspect the prince was a trolling book, as otherwise Machiavelli was a staunch Republican.

>>40766711
I've only played a few villains, but I've played plenty of evil characters, OP.

I once played an enchantment-focused spellcaster who was neutral evil, utterly self-absorbed and power hungry, in a group of good and neutral-aligned folk including a paladin. She ended up being not only the party leader but also the voice of reason because she was the only one who could remain focused on the task at hand, and because everything they went up against was the sort of evil that was trying to kill everyone (and everyone happened to include her), and thus an enemy.

>>40773712
Well he did put some real wisdom in it. Like that the more different from you a people you are occupying are the harder it is to govern them.

>>40773239
They were innocent in the context of law. They weren't actually found guilty of doing anything illegal.

>>40773677
>I never understood the idea behind the whole "Tarkin Doctrine"
It's basically Nazi Germany in space. Once people stop caring about the consequences, none of it will work anymore. But someone telling that to Himmler would've either ended up shot the next morning or in a work camp.
Can't tell a fully indoctrinated person that their doctrine won't work.

>>40773702
Now you're just doing ad absurdum. Yes, slaughtering innocents is evil, but the imperium never considered the people of Tatooine innocent in the first place. To them it probably was like killing possible cartel members alongside retrieving their blueprints.

If we're looking at how evil the imperium is from the outside, then almost everything they do is gonna be evil. That's how they're supposed to come across. Finding the things that even regular imperial citizens would consider "evil", that's the good stuff.

>>40773677
>I never understood the idea behind the whole "Tarkin Doctrine"
The idea is that Tarkin is a self-fellatiating retard, and the doctrine reflects that.

>>40773761
Which makes it even worse when you think of it. The prequels (bad as they are) at least show that the Empire might've been a more competent government over the Republic by simply cutting out most of the bureaucracy and clout that stopped the senate from being to actually DO anything for anyone. If totalitarian state means the trains come into station on time every time compared to "whenever it happens", might also be a good reason why most people never seemed too bothered by it.

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>TFW you're a shit GM
>TFW you had a really cool idea for a game where the players are basically imperial customs, but they get caught up in something bigger if they can add 2+2 toether
>TFW nobody in your area runs starwars, so you won't even get to play

we had one GM try to run EotE, but it fell through after 1 session due to "life problems". I really was enjoying the character I made for it too

>>40773749
>>40773712

It was more or less a parody. He hated the current rulers of Florence and wrote it as a guide to being an evil ruler, because they sucked at being evil rulers.

>>40766711

I had a Empire group, but it wasn't so much villains. They were overworked and stretched too thin trying to protect Empire-associated worlds in the outer rim, hunting down pirates, raiders and slavers.

I consider it a good bit of GM-ing to get them to slowly become more and more raciest and see humans as 'their' people and everyone else as assholes that would steal from them or kill them given a chance. Trandosihans especially stopped getting anything like a fair shake, to the point they ignored communications from a Trandoshan ship and used it for target practice.

>>40773712
>I suspect the prince was a trolling book, as otherwise Machiavelli was a staunch Republican.
IIRC, the whole purpose of that book was to appease the florentine rulers (especially the Medicis who in contary to AC lore probably were as greedy and corrupt as everyone else), because he'd been banned from the city. If you read between the lines, he's working under the premise that the ruler is actually capable of seeing the "greater good".
The tl;dr comes doen to this: Macchiavelly never really said "the ends justify the means". All he said was "If you're a capable ruler, you'll know that sometimes ends need harsher means. If you overdo this, you're an incapable ruler".

>>40773805
Well, Nazi Germany seemed like a good alternative to the Weimar Republic at the time as well. Those who read his manifesto aside, no one would've guessed that Hitler was set out to do what he did.
If you think about it, almost everything in Star Wars can be compared to Nazi Germany.
>Emperor = Hitler
>Vader = Himmler (with altered betrayal)
>Tarkin = Heydrich

>>40773805
It's obvious that the old republic couldn't keep people from being enslaved in the outer rim or powerful companies from straight out fucking invading planets.

They couldn't provide basic security until the war powers act in EP 2, and that shifted so much power to one demagogue that it broke the republic.

>>40773761
no Im not, Uncle Owen bought a toaster, they blew up his farm.
A faction in the Alderaan government was aiding the rebels they blew up the planet.
The only reason they didn't blow up cloud city was because of Anakins hope to turn his son to the darkside. otherwise they would have blasted away the second Luke landed, and they kind of did.
The empire had decayed into a corrupted military state run in most part by power hungry military men like Tarkin and at the top the Sith who's ultimate goal was self aggrandizement and the suffering of others. They were evil plain and simple, and the casting of someone as rebel was grounds for killing them, their family, burning down their house, and businesses no evidence required.

There is a difference between killing someone because they know to much and killing someone out of hand. and the former is still and evil act.

>>40773846
After 40+ of people analyzing it, I think it's safe to say everyone sees the symbolic references to Nazi Germany in the Galactic Empire. Still a valid point none the less. The other thing I kinda feel bad about for this whole spiel is the clones themselves. Sucks knowing your whole existence is nothing but combat and the eventual betrayal of people you've come to trust and you know you don't get a say in it at all.

>>40773805
You could also factor in that a lot of races come from the rim or outlive humans by centuries. No real reason to go full revolt when the core races lock down a small portion of the galaxy and can not take places like Mon Calamar which had one native species side completely with the CIS and the other half running a ship yard.

>>40773894
Given the raw resources of the Empire (See: Battle of Endor) it's pretty clear that they were a quite vibrant military dictatorship. Dickish and raciest, but quite able to effectively organize and keep the basic engines of production going. (Death Star 2 was built in less then 2 years).

Anybody that caught the attention of the Empire or stood in it's way could get stomped on hard. Brutal oppressive tactics were the order of the day, to the point that the highest levels were pretty much inarugebly insane (Tarken, Vader and the Emp are all irrational).

It worked though. It should be interesting to see how in the new movies the Rebel Alliance was able to replace the empire.

>>40773894
>no Im not, Uncle Owen bought a toaster, they blew up his farm.
From their POV he might've known something. As cynical as it may sound, better be safe than sorry.

>A faction in the Alderaan government was aiding the rebels they blew up the planet.
Evil, no argument here.

>The only reason they didn't blow up cloud city was because of Anakins hope to turn his son to the darkside. otherwise they would have blasted away the second Luke landed, and they kind of did.
Actually don't know about this one. But then again, it's been a while since I've watched the movies or read some EU.

>Rest of the post
Yes, at that point they were a military state. And that military state is plainly evil when viewed from the outside.
From the beginning I've been on about their inside perspective. To once again compare it to Nazi Germany: Most german citizens and even some of the more devoted Nazis were shocked when they learned about the true extent of the Holocaust. That's the kind of evil I was searching for. And there's not too much of that in the movies.

>>40773846
Machiavelli was also a well known satirist.

>>40773952
How does a former terrorist group effectively form a new government? How would they stop some other group from coming in and usurping them the way they did the Empire? I wonder if that will ever be brought up because you don't just topple an Empire and not cause a major upheaval in the process.

>>40773995
>I wonder if that will ever be brought up because you don't just topple an Empire and not cause a major upheaval in the process.
In Episode VI it's implied that most imperial citizens disliked the empire IIRC (huge party at the end). And the EU I read basically agreed.

But seeing as they're throwing the EU out of the window, I'm curious how they'll do it.

>>40773995
By being composed of the politicos who were part of the government before the Empire.

>>40773995
Well, they had a bunch of senators and other politicians, and were effectively coordinating enough people to run major capitol ships.

Popular support for the Rebel Alliance keeps it from falling apart and being replaced. The same reason the Iroquois Confederacy didn't imminently conquer the United States in 1780.

The real problem is that if they tried to turn the clock back and make it just like the Old Republic, they'd be copying a hidebound, ineffective government that could not provide basic security to it's members. That said, the Rebel Alliance did know how to fight a war and the cost and requirements of keeping people safe.

The Rebel Alliance wasn't bomb throwing IRA, it was more a rival government. Disbanding the last of the republic senate gave it plenty of people that knew how to run a government.

>>40773412

No, they really haven't. Modern day first world countries have more objective 'good' in their dealings then the Empire.

If the united states took a nuke to destroy isis it would be an international war crime and shitshow for all of time, which is pretty much the same shit the empire did in blowing up that planet.

Ur wrong.

>>40774087
>If the united states took a nuke to destroy isis it would be an international war crime and shitshow for all of time, which is pretty much the same shit the empire did in blowing up that planet.
Yeah, just like nuking Japan TWICE, right?

>>40774109
And we still get shit for it when pretty much everyone responsible for the decision, or even everyone who was an adult at all at the time is now dead/barely not dead.

>>40774087
>that whole example
It would only be a war crime because after WWI and 2 people agreed that big scale killing of your enemies is a bad thing. The galaxy never had a similar agreement IIRC.

>>40774126
>And we still get shit for it when pretty much everyone responsible for the decision, or even everyone who was an adult at all at the time is now dead/barely not dead.
So do the germans. Advantages of being "an evil person's heir".

>>40774109
Fun facts about the US use of atomic weapons in war:

It killed less people then firebombing, something nobody brings up anymore.

Japan failed to surrender after being soundly defeated and every major city firebombed. They had every chance to.

It was vital to establish the post-war status quo. That's ugly realpolitic, but cost a hell of a lot less lives then the immediate invasion of the USSR would have.

It really didn't kill that many people. The cities were rebuilt, with US help, and are populated today.

>>40773952
>it worked though.

Except that, like with most fascist states, that "work" was mostly illusion. Well, not illusion, but solely focused. Like, >>40773875 implied the Old Republic needed to fall because it couldn't stop people being enslaved in the outer rim, or stop companies from invading planets.

Except, the EXACT SAME SLAVERS ARE STILL IN POWER, 20 YEARS LATER. Jabba runs Tattooine. There's still a wide array of violent bounty hunters in the galaxy, who are so superior to the Imperials' "working" system, that the second-in-command of the entire galaxy says, "Fuck it, these 12 dudes are more useful for my needs than the billions I have at my command." despite knowing they're psychopaths. "No Disintegrations?" How do you prove you claimed a bounty if you disintegrate him?

The slavery is still happening, the criminals are just as powerful as ever, the ONLY CHANGE is that the Empire is a better Military power than the Old Republic, because that's what it threw its own resources in.

The most terrifying thing is, if you include EU options, that the slavers are still that powerful when the sole "legitimate" government is also one of their competitors.

It took 20 years to disband the entity you have executive control of. And by the time you succeeded, you were so hated that there was a well-funded, widely supported counter-government in your dominion.

>>40766711
I played a racist firebender for a while. He was pretty fun.

I played a Cleric of Hextor that was a Punchclock Villain. Literally empowered by Hextor to kill 100 pure souls (Paladins or Clerics) before Hextor would resurrect his wife.

He had a habit of intentionally lengthening sieges in the hopes that heroes would rise to oppose him, and letting their messages get out so that heroes of other lands could come riding to their rescue.

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>>40774182
Weirdly, slavery is less a point where the Empire failed.

The Empire considered non-human slavery kosher and was part of the trade. Note what you -don't- see in Jabba's palace: Human slaves.

That said, the outer rim remained very difficult to effectively govern, but as you see in A New Hope, the empire can land there, kill people and blow up sand-crawlers any time they want to. The Republic's knights couldn't even get people to take their money.

http://www.pcgamesn.com/tie-fighter/tie-fighters-greatest-campaign-the-sepan-civil-war-and-the-lure-of-benevolent-imperialism

For a good look at how the Empire saw itself from within and considered itself the good guys, look to TIE fighter.

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>>40772835
What do you mean "we", whitey?

>>40768637
Exactly what I was thinking.

>>40766711
I'm planning to play my first evil character amid a good party. I'm a kitsune that's basically always in human form because there's a lot of racism flying around against non-humans in the area. He was adopted by humans as a cub but abused due to said racism and thus has a hateboner for humans.

Nothing very concrete set up yet on what direction I'll be taking him. I did talk to my GM about getting some kind of "alternate objective" vs the good party, but if I'll be getting any of that I'll be getting it IC once the campaign actually starts.

I hope I'll be getting some fond memories of him to report back.

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>>40766711
Obligatory.

>>40773995
Realistically they don't. The prosperous, human dominated worlds near the galactic center are tied together by trade already so they would have a vested interest in maintaining interplanetary government, but probably in a greatly reduced degree, somewhere between the united nations and a confederation of states in terms of political cohesion, mostly regulating trade and mediating interplanetary conflicts. The outer worlds and the worlds with large alien populations would probably either want independance, possible for themselves or as part of a smaller regional group. Lots of weaker planets would probably be swallowed up by stronger coalitions with imperial ambitions of their own. Lots of the smallest, poorest regions wouldn't even need to declare independence, the resource strapped empire wouldn't even bother trying to reintegrate them into galactic government.

How common was it for the Empire/Clone Army to just burn sections of planets rather than fight for them? They can't put forces down for every conflict and they seem wholly uncaring of civilians.

>>40776562
>
Realistically they don't. The prosperous, human dominated worlds near the galactic center are tied together by trade already so they would have a vested interest in maintaining interplanetary government, but probably in a greatly reduced degree, somewhere between the united nations and a confederation of states in terms of political cohesion, mostly regulating trade and mediating interplanetary conflicts.
What, you mean LITERALLY the old Republic? Because prior to Grand Chancellor nee Emperor Palpy that's what the Republic was. A mediating body. And holy shiiiit it was corrupt and incompetent.

>The outer worlds and the worlds with large alien populations would probably either want independance, possible for themselves or as part of a smaller regional group. Lots of weaker planets would probably be swallowed up by stronger coalitions with imperial ambitions of their own. Lots of the smallest, poorest regions wouldn't even need to declare independence, the resource strapped empire wouldn't even bother trying to reintegrate them into galactic government.
Hutts, hutts everywhere. Seriously, those fuckers have kept a shadow empire up for so goddamn long.

>>40776562
Honestly it sounds like the Rebels winning would just open up some of the old evils they were already dealing with but with more gusto. As now anyone with a sufficiently large force could potentially carve out little empires, and even if they formed a central government near the core worlds, at that point they would just be another empire forking out what they can get. Being the Rebel Alliance after that whole civil war is a difficult thing.

>>40777089
That's literally what happens, m8.
The New Republic spends two~three decades fighting dozens of ex-Imperial warlords trying to carve their own territory and dealing with people who go "fuck galaxy-wide governments".
Then the Vong happen and the New Republic balkanizes forever and a shitload of successor states form all over the galaxy. I think they make a up a new big government thing that isn't very successful.

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>>40773702
>Killing innocents is objectively evil.
George Lucas a shit with his black and white portrayal of morality. The Empire saved billions of lives and the republic and rebellion probably have death camps and firing squads of their own

Who else wants to play heroic Separatists trying to stop the tyranny that the Republic has become? Pre-Rebellion Rebels, in a sense.

>>40774350
Well he enslaved Lei quick as you please and she was human.

>>40766711
>Ex-stormtrooper, now Darktrooper
Aren't Darktroopers all robots?
>warp in above orbit, go to main deck.
>warp
It's called hyperspace in Star Wars.
>above orbit
you mean in orbit?
>They live
How did they survive and orbital strike, while all the other people in that base didn't?

>>40778070
The main current of the Rebellion always disowned those who used that, and tracked them down themselves.

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>>40766711
I've only ever managed to play a villain once. Otherwise I just like helping people too much, and don't like hurting people. I think the only way I was able to play this particular villain was by REALLY getting into the mindset of what basically amounted to Space Atilla Khan, Prince of All Saiyans. Well, Princess, the character was female, and it was Mandalorians, not Saiyans, but you get the idea

Hot damn did I have a good time, though.

>>40778124
Hutts were crime lords that were technically separate from the Empire, more of a Vassal thing.

Enslaving Leia (the rebel commander) would have lasted until he could have sold her to Vader, she was pretty much just bait for Luke though.

Hutts had indentured human servants though if I recall who were pretty much slaves.

>>40774350
In the interest of fairness, the Empire went to Tattooine with at least one Star Destroyer and all the troops that entails (the entire point of a Star Destroyer is a ship powerful enough to lock down an entire star system by itself), and were openly and actively conducting a manhunt. In Phantom Menace, on the other hand, it was just two Jedi, who were undercover and not openly telling folk that they were Jedi, and no backup from the Republic.

>>40766711

Rolled for stats and did surprisingly well, decided I'd go with a Neutral Evil Half-Orc trickster-domain Cleric who pretended to be a Paladin. Was rather weak on Con and Str, but managed to have reasonably high Charisma.

It was taking the piss out of the "Orcs are always evil" where my character had to bluff like mad to convince people that he was a Paladin while trying to guide the party to wipe out a rival clan. Yes, I killed a bunch of Orc babies because "Orcs are always evil."

Yes, we house-ruled some stuff because we wanted to have fun with ridiculous spy vs. spy intrigue. There are probably better systems for it than D&D 3.5 but fuck it that was all we knew at the time.

It was actually the theme of the party, we were all varius flavours of Chaotic, Neutral, or Evil and had secret motives that we tried to convince the other party members to do in a way that portrayed it as Lawful Good. No direct party conflict was allowed, and we kept track of times we got caught doing evil.

When someone finally did get caught, we turned them in - only to have our own actions come under scrutiny to see if we were guilty by association!

In the end, after a couple sessions of interrogation about our actions over the campaign with us either having the option to answer "Truthfully" or roll against various DCs that I'm pretty sure our DM made up based on how outrageous the lie was, we ended up getting our Barbarian remanded back into our custody so that we could "Reform" him. Poor bastard, he was subjected to so many Pious speeches that we ended up actually converting him.

And the game just kind of stopped there, sadly due to real life stuff. His player was so looking forward to turning the tables on us and innocently destroying any plans we made in his newfound enthusiasm for doing good.

>>40778183
Darktroopers were either droids or power armour-clad Stormtroopers, depending on which phase you're looking at.

>>40778211
That just what they want you to think.

>>40778501
And it's also what we've seen them do.

>>40778211
Nah, they're just space-isis. Every side in warfare commits atrocities. Always has, always will. Of course the movies don't depict that, they are made for children. But if you are going to try to imagine a living breathing universe with a large scale war, doing so by depicting an objectively evil and good side is infantile.

>>40778622
WW2. Granted, it wasn't completely one way on either side, but "every side commits atrocities" is a very, very long way away from "the Rebellion is space ISIS."

>>40769172
Rebels has done a pretty good job with it.

The empire is increasingly xenophobic and are really pushing hard on their planets. Not to mention its lead by a Sith Lord who orchestrated Trillions of deaths, the mass genocide of the Jedi, and the mass brain washing of the clones to kill their generals.

>>40778661
Not really. Isis doesn't do anything people haven't done to each other for thousands of years. The only difference between the Empire and the Rebels is one side is holding the galaxy together allowing some people somewhere to live in peace, and the Rebellion is trying to tear it apart. The Rebels would do what the Empire does if they weren't so weak, and I can even theorize they can and do.

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>>40769114

That was not a sith lord you killed.
It was some bully that found a red light saber.

A sith lord would not allow himself to be killed by a bounty hunter.

>>40773354
this is pretty fucking awesome

>>40778795
>implying tthey would have my permission to live.

I ran a HERO system supervillains campaign set in alternate-universe Birmingham.

I give you ''The Revengers'', a lunatic gang formed by answering a want ad in the paper, posted by

Issac Niwl, the man who sold your soul to the devil for the power to manifest superstrong skeleton hands that turned things intagible, because his sister was a superhero and he was jealous. His ad was answered by

Ohrmazd, mother flipping master of illusion, who managed the logistics of bringing the art of trolling to an entirely new level.

Husk, mad scientist at large, who wanted to declare the internet an independent nation.

Broken Mirror, a shapeshifter with major self identity issues and a stabby-stabby swordstick

Comrade Communist, the psychic Russian superman, who wanted to tear down the corrupt capitalist regimes of the decadent west to save the populace with his glorious communist future

and Thomas Moon, a twelve year old boy with learning difficulties who gained super strength in moonlight and fell asleep during the day, and was immune to stun damage, meaning the only way to reliably bring him down was to use lethal damage, and risk killing a twelve year old. His entire existence was a PR war against the heroes by his players second character, named

Dr Schaudenfraude, the Norse God of Strife and conflict who had been living on the moon since world war 2, kept on the mortal plane by the psychic presence of humanities war-mongering, who wanted to go back to Asgard, but had to end all wars by DESTROYING HUMANITY to do so.

Over the course of this campaign, my players reduced me to hysterical tears as they stole banks NOTE not robbed banks, stole banks, important difference, catastrophically re-arranged city infrastructure, kidnapped boy bands, developed tumblr fan followings, pretended to destroy an art gallery, ACTUALLY destroyed another art gallery, and released rap-remix charity albums.

It occurs to me this might be long one, so does anyone want to hear the rest ?

>>40778877
Yes now stop being a tease and get writing

>>40778877
>>40778988

Alrighty then.

Just a drop of backstory.

Superhumans have existed since forever as a background hidden secret of humanity, but because I am a completely unoriginal hack I decided that my alternate history diverged during World War 2. Hitlers' Thule society made contact/struck bargains with the long-absent Norse Gods, and got both Tyr and Thor on their side to empower the invasion of Europe. Nothing shits people up quite like super-Nazis flying over Poland and France on Dragonball-flying-nimbus style stormclouds, raining lightning bolts down on their enemies, so Britain, America and Russia collectively have the elements within their government that are in the know about the weird stuff in the shadows flip their shit and start publicly recruiting and drafting super people to take the fight to a new level. A few years later, Berlin is a crater, the world is mostly safe, and two young supermen returned to Birmingham from the war decide to set up a citizens watch group with a difference to deal with rampant criminal activity overtaxing the police force in Post-War Britain.

In the modern day, The Pallisade, based in Birminghams' jewellery quarter, is Britains' premier superteam, and my players, giggling maniacly, are planning to troll the shit out of them before breaking them to pieces, just to prove that they can.

>>40778116
I can roger to this.

>>40778116

>robots
>heroic

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>>40779242
>implying that all of the Separatists are robots
>for that matter, implying that robots can't be heroic after six movies of R2

>>40779208
>I was wondering something.
>Roger, roger?
>Do you ever think we're the bad guys? We have a lot of Dark Jedi generals, and our leader is named Grievous.
>Most of our enemies are skull-faced clones.
>Roger...

>>40779242
The CIS used organic troopers too, they were just seen less often than the quintillions of battle droids.
Besides, having an organic commander shape the developing personalities of the droids under his/her command is pretty cool, especially if you end up with a sword and board BX paladin or something.

>>40773377
Well then, literally almost every state that has ever existed or will ever exist is evil. You've now diluted the term such that it has almost no meaning.

>>40779193

Just before we begin the first session, I ask the group to decide amongst themselves how they know each other.

Issac Niwl - ''I placed an advert in the paper saying SUPERVILLAINS WANTED, CALL THIS NUMBER.''

Everyone else in concert ''I ANSWERED THAT ADVERT''

We open in the underground base of our Villains, buried under Handsworth Wood, as they excitedly posture and chat shit about what they should call themselves.

Issac ''The Revengers?''

Husk ''That implies we've been wronged. What are we taking revenge against?''

Issac ''Boredom?''

Captain Comrade [thank fuck I finally remembered what his name actually was] ''The evils of capitalism?''

Broken Mirror ''Depends, what've they got?''

It is decided that Mirror's response is the best response a villain can have and they set out to make their mark on the city.

They decide to rob a bank, because tradition, and also because funds.

So, they wander down to the central Lloyds bank. Ohrmazd uses illusions to make sure no one notices their ridiculous group in broad daylight, right up until they're standing in the middle of the banks' lobby. Comrade, Husk, and Thomas Moon [dressed as a spaceman, with a fishbowl for a helmet] smack down the plainclothes armed guards that they had identified whilst invisible, and Issac begins making the most cheerfully threatening announcement ever, think John Simm as the master villainy, and you'll be pretty dead on. To ensure people's co=operation, masked men in tactical armour pour into the bank from outside, all armed with assault rifles - Ohrmazds' illusions, but the civilians had no way to know that. Mirror, on the other hand?

Why, Broken Mirror was being Locket.

Locket was a member of the Pallisade, and one of the most potent defensive spellcasters on the planet, basically the Dr Fate/Dr Strange of my setting. And Broken Mirror had taken her appearance, and stood there smiling, quietly nodding at Issac, looking for all the world like this is all her idea.

>>40774177
>Japan failed to surrender after being soundly defeated and every major city firebombed. They had every chance to.
They sent a message that said something like "Give us a little more time before we surrender," then some fucknugget mistranslated it as "Up yours, filthy gajins."

>>40779278
Are all the droids named Roger?

>>40779825
It's a joke based on how often the droids say "Roger, roger."

> The old republic failed because it actually wasn't a republic.

>>40779503

While the crying customers of the bank ask Locket, who ignores them, why she's helping these terrible people, Issac and Ohrmazd head down to the vaults.

Ohrmazd ''We should call for Husk, see if he can open this door.''

Issac [conjures pair of giant skeletal hands to grab the door and render it intangible]

Ohrmazd ''Or we could do that.''

Upstairs, Husk, who's monitering the security cameras, notices police cars pulling up outside.

Husk ''We have company. Someone must have sounded a silent alarm.''

Mirror ''On it.'' [to Thomas Moon] ''There are policemen outside.''

Moon [in the weird singsong-yet-monotone voice that it took me a year to realise was an impression of the Moon from the Mighty Boosh] I like pleasemen! Pleasemen are coo!l''

Mirror ''Take a break. Go play with them.''

Moon ''YAAAAAAAY!''

What followed was a few minutes of a twelve year old boy throwing police cars through other police cars, giggling with joy, while the officers in command frantically ordered their firearms officers to hold their fire incase they ended up blowing a hole in a child's skull on national television [the BBC, ITV and Channel 4 were already on the scene]

Meanwhile, down in the Vault, Ohrmazd is jizzing. His magical senses have picked up a variety of interesting auras in the safety deposit boxes, and Issac is conflicted over what to take from the plethora of stuff down here.

Ohrmazd ''There's a lot here. I need time to examine it.''

Issac ''Yeah.'' [beat] ''Take the lot?''

Ohrmazd ''Take the lot.'' [over Comrades' psychic team-radio link] ''We're leaving. All aboard.''

Mirror ''Moon! Time to go!''

Moon ''Bye, pleasemen! I had fun!''

>>40779825
Roger

>>40779862

Moon hustled back inside, and the team ran downstairs to join Issac and Ohrmazd in the vault, flanked by the illusion goons. With the front of house distraction now gone, the police begin swiftly but cautiosly moving through into the bank, evacuating the hostages, which was when a colossal pair of photo-negative skeleton hands emereged silently through the floor at high speed, carrying between them A GIGANTIC FUCK-OFF BANK VAULT, equally photo-negative. The vault speeds straight through the panicking police and hostages, leaving everyone with the horrible sensation of a ghost walking through them, soars through the front of the bank, and flies away down the street in full view of the watching TV cameras. After a couple of blocks, it sinks into the ground, and vanishes without a trace.

Inside the telekinetically-propelled ghost-vault, the mood is high. Moon, without moonlight to recharge him after playing catch with the police force, is all tuckered out and snoozing gently on the floor, whilst everyone else congratulates each other and dissects the job.

Issac [nodding at Mirror, who still locks like Locket from the Pallisade] ''Think they'll have a hard time explaining that away?''

Husk ''I should bloody well hope so. While I was in the office, I transferred 3 million pounds from various corporate accounts over to the charity foundation that they run.''

The group considers this for a moment before bursting out in hysterics, rapidly shushing each other so that they don't wake up Moon, who had done very well and deserved his nap.

There was a very small hillock in a secluded part of Handsworth Wood. There was a muffled crunching sound, and suddenly there were two hillocks, as a bank vault suddenly became tangible underground, displacing the earth around it. Opening the vault door, which had had it locks destroyed by being forced to displace the bulkhead of the lair, the gang stepped out of their new trophy room, and began to divvy up their loot.

>>40780122

The gang began sorting out their spoils. Ohrmazd found two things of interest, a round golden coin, embossed on one side with the image of an elephant, which radiated magic like crazy, but appeared to be somehow dormant and unresponsive to his attempts to make it do things, and a silvery, fractured shard of a mirror. Because he had the good sense to know serendipity when he saw it, he handed this one straight off to Broken Mirror, who freaked out a little as the shard slid into her hand and vanished, while one of the many cracks that marked her ''default'' face vanished. [of all the plot hooks that kinda fell by the wayside in the game, this was the one that irked me the most, but I have no one to blame for that but me, I suppose]

A number of property deeds, bearer bonds, and stock titles caught Comrades' eye; these he handed off to Husk, who could digitally transfer them to various charities, and socialist/communist foundations that he approved of. The boxes also turned up a couple of interesting technical documents and patent designs, which also went to Husk, who didn't much care, as they were far below his tech level, and also because he had realised that the lair didn't have TV or internet, and was busy fixing this grave oversight with improvised scrap parts from the vaults security cameras.

BBC news turned out to be very formally losing their shit over the sheer balls of this daylight robbery, and the Revengers were dutifully pleased. They were less pleased when the anchor referred to them as ''the unidentified suspects''.

Ohrmazd ''Did we really forget to leave a calling card?''

Issac ''We can fix that. Husk! Internet me a streetmap!''

With the team poring over the laptop of Husks' player, I point out the area of the jewellery quarter where the Pallisades' townhouse base is located. The jewellery quarter is extremely close to the centre of Birmingham, and so there was a ridiculous number of places the Revengers could make their mark on..

>>40779552
you dont just get a "little more time" what if we gave germany a "little more time" all those death cams would keep runnig, they would have advanced the technology and recovered a bit... werent we in a nuclear arms race with them? to see who could make it the fastest? and they already had the most advanced missles... if they kept churning those out and let lose a few months worth all at once... would have resupplied thier tank with gas... all that giveing time does is reset the field so the war lasts longer...

>>40781089

One location in particular caught their eye.

Issac ''What're all those?''

Me ''Rail lines. That's New Street Station, it's the city's main railway nexus.''

Mirror ''All of it? Why is there so much more building around it?''

Me ''There's a shopping centre built on top of and around it.''

Husk [who, like me, is from around Birmingham irl] ''... Wait. Isn't the shopping centre actually called The Pallisade Shopping Centre?''

Me ''Yes indeed. In setting, it was named in their honour.''

Issac ''Perfect.''

Ten minutes later, the Revengers [minus Captain Comrade, who had to go home as it was getting late] stroll right the fuck into the Pallisades shopping centre. A few people start freaking out and running, only to find the exits blocked by more of Ohrmazd's illusion-goons lined up in firing squads. Husk
made his way downstairs to the station proper, headed for the security booth, using an omni-tool to pop the lock and raygunning the guard inside into unconsciousness. He sat himself down and made sure none of the alarms were active and transmitting yet, then set up a signal with his omni-tool to scramble any phone signals within the building. Then he set about setting all the rail signals to STOP; the next part of the plan needed the absence of any trains entering or leaving the station for a little while.

Pitch for the Star Wars game I'm running in a few months. Just wanting a bit of feedback.

Set around 10-15 years after the Empire became a thing, basically when Rebels is going on. Players are a smuggler crew put together by a low tier Hutt. Around character creation I take them outside and ask for where they stand in the Rebel/Empire conflict, though right now there is no formalised Rebellion.

Two players (randomly selected) will be force sensitive without any formal training. Anything before the time period is canon, anything after can change. I'm fully prepared for them killing the Emperor.

A side thing is I want one player to get a lightsaber, if they're stupid enough to use it in public the Inquisitor from Rebels is gonna come down on them like a fucking hammer.

>>40781882


Issac joined Husk in the security booth to grin like the Cheshire cat and start fucking the Pallisade right in the arse. See, Paul Redgrass, one of the founding members of the Pallisade, was still active to this day, thanks to a bullshit super-metabolism that kept him aging slower, although by this point he was starting to get seriously Clint Eastwood grizzled. He was a super-speedster, and his codename during world war 2, which he still used, despite his identity being public knowledge, was Jitterbug.

Issac [activating the building PA system] Good afternoon people of Birminghman! We are the Revengers, and this song goes out to our good friend Paul Redgrass! We couldn't do this without you!''

The PA system begins to play Wham's ''Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go''.

Mirror, Moon, and Ohrmazd, meanwhile, are having some fun upstairs in the shopping centre. Mirror is pulling another of her impersonations, she has become Pirrouette, the Pallisades' invulnerable, super-strong brawler. Some facts about her that are publically known - she's a dancer, she has fantastic muticoloured dyed hair, and she loves terrible cheesey boy bands, ESPECIALLY one direction [please note, this was a few years ago, when they were even bigger than they are now, and their faces were fucking everywhere].

The trio comes to an HMV [if anyone doesn't have them, they're an entertainment store chain, dvds, games, music, etc].

Mirror ''Hi! Show me your One Direction stuff, please!''

The terrified shop assistant complies.

Mirror ''Thanks!'' [to Moon] ''Wreck it and I'll buy you ice-cream.''

Moon ''ICE CREAM!''

The One Direction cds are explosively deconstructed, whilst Mirror busies herself with defacing all of their posters and T shirts she can lay her hands on. Ohrmazd struts off to the entrance, where he hangs seven nooses [one for every member of the Pallisade] from the sign over the shopping centre entrance.

Then he makes a mirage firestorm, causing a fucking riot.

>>40782149
>Two players (randomly selected) will be force sensitive without any formal training.
>One of both of them is playing a droid.

>>40782504

The gang heads through the [not] burning building, dodging the panicked crowds, to the security booth, to find Issac putting the cherry on top of the plan.

People all across the city centre freak the fuck out as circular portals made of hellfire open up above the shopping centre. Dozens of giant skeletal hands emerge and wrap around the building, and a photo-negative glow spreads across it.

Then they twist, strain, and the whole building complex lifts a metre into the air and turns around 180 degress before being sat back down.

By the time the police arrive to try and calm the riots and work out what the fuck has happened, the Revengers are far away, Issac having used his powers to carry the security booth away underground, the whole team laughing the whole way home.

Then they went out for ice cream.

And that was the end of the first session.

Anyone want to hear more?

>>40782779
>implying Skippy the Jedi Droid isn't the hero we need

>>40782832
Most certainly. Seeing evil done well - albeit with a large streak of eccentricity - as opposed to as "rape the fields, burn the women, salt the houses" is always refreshing.

>>40782149
I am playing this exact thing, right now. that's weird man

make it possible for them to get training, no training whatsoever almost always leads to the dark side

The lightsaber thing, think hard about how they get it. I got my crystal from carving a part of the wintrium cup for winning the annual boonta speeder race

>>40783018
Oh the lightsaber's not going to be theirs. I was thinking they could have a mission to smuggle a small black box which they inevitably look inside.

I just find the idea of a Rodian Smuggler with no idea what the fuck he's doing waving around a lightsaber hilarious. Then the Inquisitor shows up.

As for force sensitivity it was more the case of 'you get a feeling' or something. Potential for jedi/sith training if they find the right people but they wont be masters at any point in this campaign. It's kind of a tradition in my group to have legacy games since we're a university society. I'll probably run another game in the future dealing with the shit this lot throw the galaxy into. Then they run into Jedi Master Old Character.

>>40783149
pilots are completely excellent for people to be sensitive, as are navigators.

At least once I've flown into a system and got a weird feeling, hidden and fucking imperials turned up. to be fair, once was the invasion of naboo but still

oh, and use the cult of ylesia and exultation, it's hilarious. Make sure the sensitives get a weird molesty vibe from the priests. well, more than usual anyway

>>40782922

All right, I'll be back to post more tomorrow. In this thread if it's still on the catalog, or if the threads been archived, I'll start a storytime thread.

>>40783267
>cult of ylesia and exultation

Never even heard of that lot, Wookieepedia makes them sound super fun.

So far plot wise all I've got is them 'acquiring' their ship in the first session. Then probably getting involved in some exiled Jedi trying to flee the empire. Then it'll be jobs for the Hutt which never go according to plan.

Open ended games tend to be player driven, the beauty of using Star Wars is that I know the universe well and anything I don't know is on Wookieepedia. Basically I'm giving them free reign and reacting accordingly.

>>40783480
yeah, I mentioned those dudes since you talked about force sensitives, hutts and things which are ridiculous, they work on droids for some reason too

try bringing in the hutt clans too, the time period your talking about has a hutt civil war

>>40783543
Its all in the vibrations

>>40783775
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eab_beh07HU

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Shit man, I just finished a campaign where we played agents for the Empire, with the option to become employed by it.

I played Dell Kalligar, a backwater planet civie thrust into the galactic conflict, armed with a simple blaster, a clip of ammunition, and the objective to stay alive. I met up with three like-minded individuals, and together we fought out of a city locked in a firefight. We lost one of our party to stray fire, which we later learned came from the rebels. We dragged his corpse 200 yards through the sludge of those caved in streets, speeder wrecks on both sides lighting the way as streaks of red and green fire lit the sky and blocked out the stars.

When we reached the other end, a soldier called for his squad to cease fire and retrieve the civilians from the trench, and before we passed out, we saw our saviors; Imperial Stormtroopers, covered in blood and mud from weeks of fighting. We awoke in a makeshift field hospital, medical droids hovering from bed to bed as imperial medics triaged the situation. We were informed that the Empire was going to be moving as many of the survivors out of the warzone as possible, which meant taking us off planet. Literally thousands of cities were under fire from rebel fleets, because it turned out our little isolated planet just happened to have a decent sized mining operation that would cripple the Empire’s ship building capabilities.

The rebels, considering the entire planet to be ‘Imperial Sympathizers’, had adopted a no prisoner policy, and had done a decent job blocking most of the Empire’s ships, which meant the troops were starting to thin. Humbly, an Imperial Officer asked for any and all able-bodied individuals to join a temporary militia to bide the time until another legion could land and repel the invasion.

Our party was first in line, and received a white stormtrooper belt to mark us as militia. The leader of our unit was a stormtrooper recruit, the new character of the player who had died.

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>>40785756
That's just beautiful

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>>40785756
That's pretty damn cool.

>>40785756

The first mission was easy; secure an orbital bombardment weapon that was preventing the civilian barges from reaching the surface to move casualties from the fight. We all agreed to follow the recruit, who was by default the highest ranking military member in our outfit. Wisely, he opted for the flanking approach, and we snuck behind the main stormtroopers frontline, once more jumping into the trenches. Taking our time, we managed to avoid a majority of the rebel guards patrolling the area.

We found a latch underneath the bulk of the building, and quietly pulled ourselves through it. Turns out, we had entered the ordinance storage location, where they kept the kinetic shells (Back water planet, technology was a resource saved for the mines, not on weapons we never thought we’d need). The recruit scouted the area ahead of us, and luckily located command console, and one of the rebel commanders.

The choice boiled down to the approach we wanted to take towards this mission.
With little firepower, the choice was obvious. We needed the safety of stealth.
Dell, being a simple transport operator, had little to no experience with combat, but had the best chance to operate the console once the rest of the group had secured the objective. The recruit led the two others in our group towards a vantage point where they could pick off a few outliers to reduce resistance. Dell moved to the rafters, along with the blaster with the best range.

>>40789207

And then shit hit the fan.

Unfortunately, one of the rebels that they had tried to take down managed to remain awake long enough to shout something into his comm unit, and that put every other soldier in the warehouse on high alert. Seeing no alternative, Dell began to take shots from the rafters, using the poor lighting to hide his position. He managed to clip a couple of the rebels, just enough that the group down below scored a few kills.

Seeing his opening, Dell laid down on his back and aimed at the rafter suspension, blowing the bolts out and then hanging on as one section of the rafter, the one he happened to be standing on, swung below like a pendulum. Somehow surviving the rather crazy stunt, Dell rolled onto the ground before standing up and sprinting towards the console as the recruit and his allies laid down suppressing fire.

The first step was stopping the system from locking onto Imperial ships and scaring them away from safe landing zones, which Dell managed to do with relative ease. With their objective done, the recruit prepared to blast the console, but luckily Dell and the others realized the potential advantage they possessed. A few strokes on the holopad later, and Dell had found three targets for the weapon to fire on. Low chance to hit, sure, but a chance was more than enough to scare the rebel ships away from the area long enough to prevent them from dropping more rebel soldiers.

Dell input the commands, gave a thumbs up, and the recruit blasted the console to prevent the rebels from changing targets. A short run from the rebels later, and we found ourselves face to face with an Imperial squad who provided the reinforcement we had needed. They made short work of our pursuers, and we all took this chance to look up at the skies to see our handiwork.

I'll never forget unit-7767 'sevens' for CIS meatbag simpatizers and squadmates.
B2 battle droid, Suun Ra civil protection task force "Gen".

Normally hunting the scum out of the streets and getting them into a nice comfy cell for a night, until the republic came at least.

When the republic ships got into the atmosphere and began blasting the city, it was his duty to clear the rabble by the use of heavy blaster fire and lead the civillians to the bunkers with Gen Squad. Sometimes using it's own chasis to protect civillians from falling rabble of the skyscrapper. Once the civvies were evacuated, Gen squad reunited with the main battle force and fought their way up to the republic's landing zone.

Sevens did not sirvive to see the end of the war. But he lasted long enough to set a nuke inside a republic flagship and defend it with the remains of Gen squad until the timer hit zero

>>40789257
Got any more?

>>40773702
What if you do it to save more people?

>>40768956
Nah, dude. Maybe it unified a fractious galaxy, and maybe great unifiers like Qin Yi Huang Di and Palpatine and etc. create nations that can work infrastructurally (and in the real world that has done quite a lot of good in the long run), they're terrible from a human rights perspective and it is our duty as living beings to improve our society while in all ways espousing liberty and justice and all that good shit. Palpatine is literally a saturday morning cartoon villain and his Empire took after that. He brought order, but only by ruling with an iron fist, and squeezing goddamn tight with it, and you are perpetuating a bad /tg/ meme that's tied in with its juvenile fetishisation of military-industrial imperialist shit (see: HFY).

>>40790499
Let me say further that to the people saying the order The Empire instilled providing peace for trillions of beings etc. etc.

I understand that argument, but my training in philosophy is limited. This is Utilitarian, right? The most good for the most people?

I would say that while you are correct: the infrastructure and order and shit the Empire provided may have provided a certain amount to the common good, but not only would most of that infrastructure have been built off of pre-existing Republic policy, but that the immoral policies of the Empire would create conditions that would allow too many moral improprieties to occur, and of too severe a nature, as to reconcile what contributions to the common good their infrastructure might provide.

Creating a state of warfare to unseat what is perceived to be a corrupt government to me seems morally justifiable when looking at what The Empire does, The Rebel Alliance is made of mortal, fallible beings, and yes, people are going to fuck up. But the character we have been shown of The Empire is, and no, this is not media manipulation as some people have laughably suggested, that their policy is blatantly unapologetic about hardcore shit like Tarkin doctrine. Rebels are shown to be accountable for their extremists, and their policy does NOT condone hardcore shit.

>>40790717
Wait, did you even see the Old Republic? Did you see the sheer size and disorganization of that do-nothing parliament? It took them so long to figure out (I'm going to make a shitty analogy off the top of my head here.) that Wal-Mart was blockading San Francisco using a blue-vested private army that the mayor had to scrape the ghettos for a limpwristed negro militia to maintain its autonomy.

>>40790242
Yeah man, like I said, this was a campaign.

After we returned to the refugee camp, an Imperial officer had informed us that we had performed a great service to the Empire. Before we could thank him and return to a medic droid for our much needed patch-ups, we found ourselves face to face with a large group of stormtroopers, who wore pristine white armor and marched with a sense of power, of professionalism.

“Are you the outfit that turned that orbital defense cannon?”
Our recruit quietly nods, all of us becoming fairly nervous.

“Good work out there. We managed to land the civilian barges within ten minutes after you turned that emplacement around. Saved us a lot of trouble. Sgt Juheen of the 501st. Look me up if you ever want to do more good.”

As we watched the stormtroopers march through the camp, we saw them replace the weary guards and supply the sentry watches with much needed ammunition. It was as if the entire camp had become revived, and there was a sense of things getting better that none of us had felt.

When the barges came in to evacuate the rest of the civies from the ground, many of the militia broke up and returned to their families and friends. Not us. We asked if there was any way to sign up for the Imperial military. The officer gave us a once over, and immediately informed us that if we desired, we could sign up for the same unit as the recruit was serving in.

A week later, and every single one of us was serving under the 683rd legion, fresh recruits in service of the Empire. From there, we went on a campaign of just under a dozen missions, each one more and more explosive than the last.
Some that stick out to me are the ones on Hoth, Tatooine, Ryloth, and the incident on the Kuat shipyards.

>>40791292
Tell us about kebab removal on Tatooine.

>>40791292
>The 501st
man, this sounds like a lotta fun anon.
How'd Hoth go?

>>40791467
Well, if you want.

First real mission after finishing up basic training. Dell, Guru, Haldeen, and the recruit, Quilon, were aching to fight some rebel scum, and with a little training, we felt like we were more experienced than before, but this wasn’t basic training anymore. We were part of the stormtrooper corps, and with that came a lot of responsibility. We made up half the squad, the other half were NPCs. We felt ready, and we couldn’t wait to get our orders from above.

The first real mission?
Intercept and investigate a possible black market dealer who was responsible for a considerable amount of rebel stockpiles. Simple enough. We formed up with our sergeant, boarded the landing craft, and descended onto the desert planet below. First landing was in small military outpost just outside Mos Eisley, and after a brief check in where we received our intel, we boarded a speeder and started towards the ‘wretched hive of scum and villainy’.

We stopped outside a cantina and quietly entered, careful to keep our guns close and our eyes open.

>>40792257
We managed to pass the sneak and entered without too many of the patrons noticing us entering the bar. A few of the NPC members snuck through to the back, in case anyone decided to make an expedient exit. Dell moved to the edge of the cantina, and we all started looking for any ‘interesting’ individuals.

“Any sight of the target?”
“That’s a negative, Haldeen.”
“Negative over here.”
“Big negative- wait.”
Haldeen managed to catch sight of what we believed to be one of the dealer’s runners. We all zone in, trying to remain as casual and make our way closer and closer. It wasn’t until the last second, when we had pushed our luck to the limit, that one of the target’s buddies saw the stormtrooper units eyeing his booth.

For a moment, we felt everything slow down. We watched the biggest thug kick a table over, one of the smaller ones tossing a mug of something green in our direction. We made a few shots of opportunity, aimed at the ones drawing blasters rather than our target, and managed to off one of the bastards before everything collapsed into chaos.

Dell pointed the crowd towards the exit, reminding them to keep their heads down and to seek the Imperial medics positioned nearby if they needed assistance. The enemy blasts singed the ceiling and the adjacent wall, but no civies seemed to get hurt. With that minor problem out of the way, we focused on the ensuing firefight.

>>40792332
Dell and Haldeen ducked behind the bar, checking their blasters for any damage they might have missed. After finding nothing, Haldeen raised himself up and laid down a line of suppressive fire. Dell kept his head low and checked his munitions.
“Guru, Quilon, any casualties?”
“They grazed one of our guys, but he’s okay.”
“Nice, Guru. How many targets can you see?”
“I’ve got a confirmed 3 on our end. What’s Haldeen got?”
Dell heard Haldeen’s clip run dry and switched with his squadmate, using his full blaster to continue the suppression.
“I see 3 over here, Haldeen’s reloading.”

Turns out that during the crowd rush, the target had somehow snuck to the back, and was engaging our NPC squad mates in combat. We decided that they would be able to hold him long enough to finish up here, and we began to take called shots with the intent to end the conflict. Nothing seems to land, and we’re starting to worry our NPC’s won’t be able to keep the target in the cantina.

“Anybody got any ideas? Dell?”
“Negatory.”
“Haldeen? Any ideas?”
“Have you tried asking them politely to NOT shoot?”
“Haldeen’s not helping. Guru?”
“Wait, How many thermal detonators we got?”
“Dell here, I have one saved for a rainy day.”

Quilon peers out before ducking back quickly, the blaster shots nearly taking his face out.

“Dell, can you reach those thugs with one?”
“Excuse me?”
“Can you reach any of the thugs your exchanging fire with using that thermo?”
“You can’t be serious. Imperial training, Quilon. You can’t use Thermos in civilian structures.”
“You and I both know that. Do they?”

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>>40792409
You have a good group.

>>40792409
Dell leaned over the counter and carefully, with the utmost care, chucked that lump of metal as hard as he could.

Nailed that bastard right in the face, to top it off.

It took the goons a second to process what happened, but while the victim rubbed his nose and cursed in his native tongue, his ally screeched as the metal lump rolled on the floor. The inactive grenade sat silently, but with all the screaming and shouting, none of the goons were able to tell that they weren’t in any danger.

They leaped out of cover and crashed into the floor, all bracing themselves for the explosion that would never happen, and we detained them without any trouble. As a few of the NPC troopers moved in to secure the goons, Dell, Guru, Haldeen, and Quilon managed to make their way towards the target’s location. Lucky us, they held the target’s attention long enough for us to sneak in.

Well, not so much ‘sneak in’ as ‘Haldeen rushes in headfirst and tackles the target using his whole body and leaping into the jump’. Whatever it was, it worked, and the target crashed face first into the floor before they felt the cold metal of Imperial cuffs on their arms.

>>40792999
A few hours passed and we got our next lead. Next target was a small shipping outpost in Hutt territory. As we readied ourselves to head back out to detain the next lead, we encounter local traders providing the ammunition. We strike up a casual conversation, and enjoy the company, until we accidentally let it slip where we’re heading. Granted, we didn’t give exact co-ordinates, but everyone knew that east of the port was Hutt territory.

“You heading into Hutt turf, Imperials?”
“That’s classified.” Dell informed them as he took the water jug from Haldeen.
“Listen, Imperials, if you’re seriously heading out there, you gonna need something else.”
“I’m confused. We’re fully armed.” Quilon looked almost offended at that remark.
“No, Imperials. You need fire.”
“What?”
“You need FIRE.”
Dell scratched his chin rather nervously. After leaving his planet, it was slowly becoming more and more apparent how little he knew about the other planets in the Empire.
“Fire like a torch?”
“No no, Imperials. You need flame throwers and incendiary. Nothing else works.”

Our commanding officer pulls us away just as we attempt to ask the traders what they meant and we board the speeder. As the back latch closes on the transport, the trader shouts something but is drowned out by the roar of the engines.
Now, as smart people, every single one of us is starting to get nervous.
Why the hell do we need fire in a desert?

>>40768637
>hey buddy
HAHHAHAHAHAHHA
>have you looked at our caps
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
>they have
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
>skulls
HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHH
>on them
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA


Everything is better with fake laugh added all over the place.

>>40785756
>a decent sized mining operation that would cripple the Empire’s ship building capabilities.
But how.jpeg
The Empire literally controls millions of planets.

>>40781098
Germany operated it's nuclear programm under a false asumption regarding the necessary mass of material. The US were far ahead of them

>>40793870
Cripple it locally. Imagine KDY having its local secure mining facility for iridium blown up; suddenly costs spiral upwards as materials on massive barges have to be imported through three sectors and they need an escort and quality checked and they might get raided anyway by rebels or they might hit the sites who now have weak security.

In an already overstretched empire locally sourced goods are important.

>>40794896
Come on.
3 sectors over only means it adds 3 hours to the time it takes for the resources to come over, you already have an hyperdrive-ready fleet of transports and escorts, and rebels barely have any interdicting capability. Blowing up an iridium mine, no matter its size, shouldn't mean anything.

>>40778441
Phase Zeros were cyborg clones kept in circulation past their expiration date.
Only Phase IIIs were power armour, and only one was built.
at least canonically

>>40796015
Hyperspace jumps aren't in straight lines to your destination, or smugglers wpuld never be caught. Convoy raids happen all the time.

Anyway, I'm glad to see how very few Alderaan destruction apologists there are. If the Empire had gone down with Stormtroopers and AT-ATs and systematically murdered every single person on the planet over a period of 30 years, every man woman and child with no-one able to even fight back, no-one would have batted an eyelid at declaring the Empire evil.

But killing them all with a flip of a switch? You get folks saying "Oh, they were harboring terrorrists" and bullshit like that.

>>40796098
The latter is evil because it's a waste of loyal stormtroopers and Imperial Army.

Tarkin did nothing wrong.

Except literally everything he did, ever

I remember reading an idea for a campaign where the players are all pilots in a minor system's imperial protection detail, they serve on one small ship in the equivalent of bumfuck Egypt. They don't see the empire's atrocities, they see the empire as the good guys, providing protection to this small backwater. The empire runs the holonet, so they control the information flow, making it plausible. After a while of doing standard defender quests, the commander begins to confide in the players, people he's become attached to, about his suspicions regarding the empire. At that point have quests start becoming a bit morally questionable, until it's time to decide whether they want to join the rebellion or continue on fighting the good fight.

>>40782832
>>40782922
>>40783308

Next day, the gang are reading the papers, basking in their notoriety. The Pallisade have been in the Scottish highlands, punching something awful from beyond space-time, for a couple of days, but they've been kept aware of the shit the Revengers have been pulling, and are not at all happy. They'll be back in another day or so, and the Revengers want to make the most of it.

Issac ''What's going on today? Anything in the paper?''

Me [Eyes glaze over as I start improvising a ''this week in local art, culture and entertainment'' section] The National Youth Theatre is performing, the West Midlands Historical Society is holding a fundraiser, there's a dual-gala event to celebrate the refurbishing of the Tate and the Tate Modern...''

One half of the party ''Ooh, the Tate!''

Other half of the party ''Urgh, the Tate Modern...''

It transpired that the Revengers collectively had very definitive views on what did and did not constitute Art, and to them, the Tate Modern did not showcase Art. They began to hatch a diabolical plan...

Later that day, Ormazd walks into the Tate gallery, disguised as a Chinese business man named Wuce Brayne [his player relishing in the looks he got from around the table], armed with his wizards' staff in the form of a walking stick, and an ice-cream receipt glamoured up as an entry ticket. He mingles with the high society, makes small talk [''I, Wuce Brayne, billionare Chinese businessman, philanthropist and celebrity chef, and very much a patron of the arts!''] and hangs around for a while before he gets the telepathic go signal from Comrade.

Issac appears on a balcony over the main lobby, flanked by yet more of the faceless goons, and smirking like a gigantic dickmuffin.

Issac ''Good people of Birmingham! We bring you an important message, about true art! Art should take skill! Art should take effort! Art should have meaning!''

[The building bursts into flames]

Issac ''Art should make you feel alive!''

>>40797471
Whee! It's storytime again!

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>>40768956
hey. hey.

The Yuuzhan Vong were deleted, so the Empire is no longer simply misunderstood.

We don't really know what it is is now. But it's probably standard black evil. That's what Lucas wanted.

>>40797569
Because Luxus was/is a fag. Same with Disneykidsfest

>>40797719
*Lucas

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>>40781098
>2015
>believing in the holohoax
>ishyggdggty

>>40797816
Thing I find hilarious: that there are no Rebels on that poster because the Empire can't find anyone who looks more evil than they do.

>>40773712
He wrote that because the people who forced him to write it broke both of his arms and then exiled him.

It was a piss take.

>>40797471

People begin to panic, and yet again are coralled at the exits by the illusion-mooks. This time though, there are so many guests all in one place that they make a veritable mob, and some of them work up the nerve to charge the mooks. It looks like this will be the end of the effectiveness of Ormazds' illusions...

Ormazd ''By the way, I bought the tactile/your-mind-makes-it-real upgrades you were talking about.''

Me and my big mouth. The ringleader of the charge goes down screaming. He and the rest of the crowd are thoroughly convinced of the reality of the bullet lodged in his leg. The charge falters and collapses, the panicked rich people huddling together as the flames inch higher up the walls. Some of them pull out their phones, and begin to call the authorities, who immediately dispatch all the officers they can muster. And all the while, Issac stood up on the burning balcony, smiling serenely, saying nothing.

This was, of course because he was an illusion, and the real Issac, who was currently across the Canals and underground, steering around the rest of the Revengers in the intangible security booth from New Street Station, had stopped feeding Ormazd lines over Comrades' telepathic link.

The security booth, in an act of delicious irony, neatly circumvented the Tate Moderns' security by virtue of rising up through the floor of the central gallery, neatly making everyone freak the fuck out. As the Revengers strolled out and began blowing apart sculptures with their mind blasts, rayguns, and Thomas Moons, the people panicked and fled. No need to corral them this time; for what the Revengers had planned, the fewer people around to interfere, the better. I made sure to describe, amidst the crowd fleeing, an young woman, late teens at best, with long brown hair, turning as she fled, and fixing Issac with a cold look before leaving. Ormazd had a panic that maybe it was his apprentice, his dependent-NPC. Fortunately for him, I had different plans.

>>40798393

With the civilians gone, and the police distracted by the earlier events at the Tate, the Revengers put their plan into action. Comrade and Moon went room by room and cleared out all the displays with telekinesis and super-strength, piling everything in the central gallery, which was a tall room that went right up to the roof, surrounded by circular walkways leading into the different floors of the other wings of the building. Once it was all together, Issac climbed on top of the pile, made the whole thing intangible, and levitated the mound of modern art up through the ceiling. The gang relaxed, their job mostly done, they thought.

''Hey, assclowns!''

Standing in the entrance to the gallery is a slim woman in a white bodysuit with a poofy black sundress over the top, her face obscured by a black half mask, her long brown hair sweeping down past her waist, She stands with one hand on her hip, the other pointed dramatically at the bemused supervillains.

''Didn't anyone ever teach you to appreciate the arts?''

Husk ''Oh, my God, it's another child. We can barely handle the one we've got.''

The teenage superhero Vox, who did not appreciate being condescended to, gave up and yelled ''Now!''

With a hissing sound, a green glob of acid hurtled down out of the shadows near the ceiling, as a green skinned kid in extremely scruffy jeans started leaping from balcony to balcony down towards our intrepid villains. His gross acid spit came inches from burning off Comrades' face, but the psychic-super-soviet caught it on his telekinetic shield. Levitating, he engaged in a mid air duel, hurling bolts of force at the nimbly dodging little shit.

Down below, Husk made to help, but was knocked down by an unseen punch to the face. ''Can't shoot what ya can't see, huh, old man?''.

Husk rolled his eyes, area-of-effect stun-blasting his surroundings . He got to his feet, rubbing his jaw, as the formerly invisible dipshit collapsed to the floor, one-shotted.

>>40797829
Couldn't they have just used a picture of a former CIS battle droid painted in rebel colours?
Iirc what was left of the CIS remnants did join the Rebels after all, and the majority of the galaxy sees the Battle Droids in a really unfavourable light.

>>40776390
Speechless.