I love all the IG stories, makes me wish GW would actually support their model lines. Chem Dogs are definitely up there though.

>>40709006
Vostroyan Firstborn.

The most straight-laced ones, like Cadia, Elysia, or Harakon, since the reason I would ever be interested in IG would be for the military aspect and not for random wacky gimmicks like Space Vampire and Wolf Viking marines.

>>40709006
The Geno formations.

>>40709006

The Krieg are pretty fun as an idea. They don't really make for interesting characters (because they're all the same character, and that character is "I will die for the Imperium because I don't deserve anything better than that"), but they're pretty genuine about it.

Dead Men Walking was a novel centering around them (or, rather, around a non-Krieg Commissar that was assigned to them, because of the aforementioned lack of character), and it was a pretty good 40k book. A highlight, for those that haven't read it.

>Krieg squad ambushed by Necrons
>Half with Lasguns, half with Meltas
>Upon firing on the Necrons and seeing that the Lasguns are ineffective--and without a single actual audible word on the part of the Guardsman--the the Lasgun guys throw their guns out of range and run unarmed at the Necrons to delay them long enough for the Melta-Kriegs to reload

The whole damn book is like that. Just these gung-ho motherfuckers that only ever get excited when given an opportunity to die for the Emperor. It was my first (and really, only) look at the regiment. It's amazing.

>>40710154
They are also presented as being kinda retarded about how they go about warfare which doesn't help. They pretty much skate by on looks.

>>40710243
>They are also presented as being kinda retarded about how they go about warfare

The Krieg aren't bad at warfare, they're just good at resource management.

You give a Krieg commander a problem--say, an enemy tank approaching. He might go the usual route and put out mines, or shoot some anti-armor shit at it, sure. But you know what? Those things are expensive. You know what's cheap? Guardsmen.

Throw about two-hundred Guardsman with lasguns at that thing, and the treads'll clog with gore in no time. Issue resolved. Glory to the Emperor.

>>40710305
That's terrible resource management. Those two hundred Guardsmen could be doing other things. Lascannon shots are cheaper, faster, and you don't have to send people out to recover equipment afterwards.

>>40710348

It was a joke, Anon.

>>40710348
>>40710305
had to explain to a player in a OW game im running the lasgun is literally worth more than they are, and thats why soldiers (which really grow on their own) are getting thrown by the thousands into almost certain death rather than losing a valuable ship

>>40710154
Krieg are probably the only imperial guard regiment I don't like. They're Edgy: the army

>>40710374
Nah, that's just tg's impression. They're just fanatical about getting the job done even if they all die. They use actual tactics hence all the entrenching and fortified positions. They hold until they can counter attack.

>>40710374
Wehraboo children love them.

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space rambo, no question

I'm also heavily interested in the scions from a background perspective, but they have no personality.

>>40710366
If they're less valuable than their lasguns then logically they shouldn't take their lasguns, or any of their equipment, with them when they make suicide charges. Which would be pretty interesting, as it'd mean the only time they can be viewed as unique people is when they strip down and slap a bomb to their chest before going over the top.

>>40709006

I honestly don't know much IG lore but I really like the aesthetic of the Vostroyan First Borne and I like the air cavalry doctrines of the Elysians

>>40710485
eh it's canon as of AM codex i think it was.
oh and anon?
>>40710417
>catachans are rambo
>catachans have marbo
>marbo
>rambo
>it cant be any more obvious. was anyone doubting?
although i do like the fact iron hands abs make him as tough as a spess mehrine in power armour.

>>40710056
>YFW it is canon that the Emperor favored the creation of an army of guys bred to be obedient studs led by packs of horny psychic Lolis.

Model the command squads as Strike Witches.

>>40710527
>>it cant be any more obvious.
Yes it can. His first name's Sly.

>>40709006
Krieg, I like the mentality of the army and all included; lore beyond Krieg as a planet could use some polishing though (In a sense of more small stories, not big things like Vraks).

But flavor wise? The motherfucking Terrax Guard. An army of commissars is hilarious.

>>40710374

40k is Edgy: the Setting

I actually think that Krieg is a regiment that works pretty well with that. It's one of those instances where the setting has allowed itself to go so fully grimdark that it becomes self-aware parody. Nobody is actually expected to believe that "World War I in space" works, except maybe this guy >>40710408

But it does, because this is 40k, and that's hilarious. By the way,

>>40710485

They do this. Seriously. Read Dead Men Walking. It's been a while since I read it myself, but they did some shit like that. It was either sending civilians up to the front weaponless to soak up damage, or poorly armed, or they were just barely convinced not to do it by one of the non-Krieg officials or something. But those guys are 100% sold on the whole "the only thing I want to do is die for the Emperor and everybody else should feel the same way" thing. It's great.

>>40710594
It's a blend of WW1 and more-so WW2 tactics, but why shouldn't they work in space exactly? Not >>40710408 but I'm curious on what you think.

>>40710573
Are they a step above the standard regiment?

>>40710305
What wars have the Krieg won? And don't say their civil war, they lost that one.

>>40710695
Unfortunately they don't have an abundance of battle/war lore so pick and choose from, but Vraks for one. Though I have a feeling you're inclined to show me everything they did supposedly wrong on Vraks.

>>40710680
They are recruited from a world with Schola progeny so they are apparently half way to becoming commissars or stormtroopers before being sent into the AM.

Which is odd since training them completely and having more Commissars and Stormtrooper units would seem more sensible. Either they are a relic from older version of 40k where the recruitment/training of Commissars and Stormtroopers was different or it is just another example of 40k setting doing stupid things.

...Or I guess they could be failures from the school who aren't quite good enough but are being put to good use in the Astra Militarum.

>>40709006
The Valorian 245th, without a doubt. Plays music out the top of his tank that is "..to the untrained ear, painful!"
It's an armoured battalion, so my mental picture is a mass of tanks gunning it for the enemy lines while the commander leads the charge blasting 40k metal out the top and frothing at the mouth

>>40710594
It's more Heavy Metal album cover: the setting. And its always been a self aware parody, at least it started that way along with a load of black humour. Its been taken way too seriously lately.

And I like the Kriegers fine in that light, I'm just getting weary of seeing them everywhere.

>>40710807
>Its been taken way too seriously lately.
it really hasn't, the online fanbase are just spergs

They just came out with retro robots on stilts and made a dreadnought called "Death Metal". The imperial guard drowned an avatar of khaine in raw sewage.

serious this setting is not

>>40710892
That's what I mean. Its not that 40k is taking itself too seriously, its the people who play and talk about.

>>40710713
not him but while the Krieg didn't really do anything too wrong on Vraks, saying they 'won' there is still rather dubious. For one, most of the major advances on Vraks were spearheaded by the space marines - first the Dark Angels, then the Red Scorpions, then the Grey Knights and Red Hunters, then the Guardians of the Covenant. The Kriegs' role was mostly just chucking bodies into the grinder and supplementing the Astartes during the major pushes, something most any infantry-heavy or siege-heavy Guard could have done.

Moreover calling Vraks a 'win' by any standard is rather specious. The most the Imperium can really claim is that they prevented the Chaos forces from expanding any further outward. Their actual goal, to retake the armouries, was pretty much null since all the weapon stockpiles and infrastructure was destroyed during the siege, leaving the planet a wasteland.

>On the nightmare world of Krieg, the elite Death Korps practice their killing arts against the only enemy they have available: those among the population unsuitable to join the regiments of the Imperial Guard.

Daily reminder.

Nobody is as hardcore as the Death Korps.

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I like the Elysians, since they're more of a special forces type of army. Light infantry that will get slaughtered in a normal stand-up fight, which is why they drop behind enemy lines and wreck shit.

I doubt they've "won" many wars, but probably the occasional insertion onto the roof of a rebel hive and the decapitation of the command staff.

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Krieg make up for their crappy tactics by having a blind eye turned by the Administratum when it comes to banks upon banks of servitor IVF incubators.

So really, it's just the same 100 guys or so that keep getting killed.

My favorite regiment, hands down, will forever be the Death Korps of Krieg. Not sure if I find them most interesting.

Maybe.

I think they've got a lot of depth to them when you break it down to squad or platoon level. While they are born to be filled with the guilt of their ancestors then sent to die in the most horrifying battlefields imaginable there has to be some level of differentiation between the individuals.

Always thought that as any particular Krieger got older they'd get more and more personality as their experiences shaped them. So like a General would be almost a person.

>>40711141
I'm neither >>40710305 nor >>40710695 , but they seemed to be drifting into arguing Krieg Strategy, Operations and tactics so I provided an example of Krieg 'winning' a war with them, though you're right in it being a debatable victory, but an overwhelming one wouldn't make for much of a story eh? Also if I remember, wasn't the necessity of Space marines becoming involved due to CSM turning up for whatever purpose and daemons and shit lurking in the Chaos side? Didn't the Dark Angles also leave after they did their usual business?

>>40711228
>crappy tactics
Probably going to cite Vraks. Reminder, an incompetent fuckstick got put in charge instead of a Krieger General through politicking.

Also, Krieg Regiments are almost always sent to the most dangerous battlefields in the galaxy AND the fact that siege warfare is one of the hardest on those who are doing the sieging.

I forgot which general said it, but to take any given fortification you need to out number your enemy 10:1.

>>40711271
>Didn't the Dark Angles also leave after they did their usual business
As they usually do.

Plague Marines and Alpha Legion were on Vraks after the first wall was breached, iirc. Daemons were around during the last 1/3 I think.

>>40709934
The most straight-laced ones, like Cadia, drop troops or drop troops from the drop troop planet.

>>40710154
>Upon firing on the Necrons and seeing that the Lasguns are ineffective--and without a single actual audible word on the part of the Guardsman--the the Lasgun guys throw their guns out of range and run unarmed at the Necrons to delay them long enough for the Melta-Kriegs to reload
What, that isn't how it went at all, the lasgun guys kept their lasguns and fixed bayonets, even taking down a necron or two with stabbings, the gun throwing was whenever a necron got a guy with a melta he threw it to the guy behind him and then grappled with the necron long enough for the guy he just threw the melta too to vaporise them both, I'm pretty certain the proportions weren't 1:1 of lasguns:meltas, just that that squad had some meltas.

>>40710892
>>40710911
The divide between 40k and 40k fans has always fascinated me.

>40k
We wanted to have as few hard limits on people's creativity as possible when creating their armies. Particularly with the Imperium, since they're so seemingly hardline, we deliberately made it so there were canon exceptions to most of the rules to make sure people understand that it's a big galaxy, with a lot of room for variation and skirting the rules.
>40k fans
Anything more unique than lifting superficial aspects of real world cultures is Mary Snueflake bullshit!

>40k
We chose to not bother with keeping the lore 100% consistent so that people could interpret certain events and characters the way they want. 40k is about having things your way, after all. We even came up with several in-universe explanations for the inconsistencies. Neat, huh?
>40k fans
Any source that contradicts my headcanon doesn't count! God dammit how are GW so lazy that they can't keep their own lore straight?

>40k
The early fluff was too full of 80's cheese to take seriously, so we doubled down on the ridiculous grimness of it all.
>40k fans
40K IS SERIOUS BUSINESS!

Cadians.
I like that IG are just dudes with guns vs the horrors of sci-fi. Cadians pretty much exemplify that by being gimmick-free, just normal men, trained and given a rifle.

>>40711561
>normal men

Of the Ultramarines of IG, living on a world at the doorsteps of hell itself, destined from birth to fight. Yeah "normal". The word "normal" does not describe any of the named regiments. They're all super elites of their type. Your normal regiments are the untold masses that don't get put up.

How common are imperial guard models that aren't Cadians anyhow? When I went to the shop to pick up a Leman Russ to scramble with some spare WW2 models, I decided to pick up some guardsmen to see what they were like for the purposes of customization, and the only two things I saw were Cadians (including shocktroopers) and Catachans. I am also exempting Scions because they aren't line infantry.

All I know of other than those is Forge World and Custom builds, which cost an arm and a leg.

>>40710695
They won that one, otherwise Krieg would not be imperial.

>>40711877
you've got basically out of production pewter guardsmen from GW
or resin guardsmen from FW

Getting an army of either is going to be expensive and neither are as convenient for converting.

>>40711141
Notable Campaigns

Krieg Civil War
>DKK side won
Taros Campaign
>Lost
Siege of Vraks
>Pyrrhic victory
Battle of Tarsis Ultra
>Pyrrhic victory
Pandorax Campaign
>Victory
Fourth Quadrant rebellion
>In reality multiple different campaigns mostly won
Baran War
>Lost
Orphean War
>Mostly lost, desperately holding the necrons
Siege of Derondii
>Unlike all but the civil war this was a DKK only campaign, they won
Third War for Armageddon
>Too major a plot point to have a resolution, although with Margret Thatcher having fucked off I think the Imperium have the upper hand atm

>>40711928
Steel Legion/Valhallans/Mordians/Vostoryans are £20.50 for 10, Cadians/Catachans are £18.00.

>>40711968
>Steel Legion/Valhallans/Mordians/Vostoryans are £20.50 for 10
most of their options are not sold on the GW site, that's why I said basically out of production

Pity there are no Harakoni Warhawk models, because they have to be the coolest looking motherfuckers ever.

I would make an army of them... but I like Elysians too.

Out of question, anybody play Elysians? Whats it like? Fun?

>>40710547

Geno five-two chilliad was founded during the Age of Strife and transferred their allegiance to the Emperor. So he didn't create them, he just recruited them.

>>40709006

Armageddon Steel Legion. I love mechanized formations and am a fan of great patriotic war-era Russians. What's not to like about whole fucking planet that's Stalingrad?

I also like elite formations so Harakoni, too.

Would love to see either or both in plastics. Meanwhile, I still have my converted Gue'la. Fuck off, humanity! Michelle Rodriguez and I are betraying humanity to go BLUE.

>>40714670
Steel Legion are Wehrmacht, it's the Valhallans who are WW2 Russians.

>>40710485
One scene I loved about Metro 2033 was that at one point some commie soldiers talk about how the nazis bound up some prisoners, cut out their tongues and strapped bombs onto them sending them back to their friends across the front line.
Once the commies saw their comrades running at them with their arms bound they ceased fire and let them into their foxholes. It was too late when they noticed the bombs and the nazis had an easy victory. Thats why the commies shoot everyone thet tries to get back from a nazi KZ.

>>40711179
>killing the weaker
>hardcore

>>40710573
>Terrax Guard
We need a comic about this.
"All right, on the count of 3 we will charge this hill and purge the xenos iwth our bolters!"
"WAIT! IT SAYS IN THE HANDBOOK THAT WE ARE TO BURN THE XENOS!"
"Shut up Jeremy, It states:PURGE the xenos, and burn the heretic!"
"DO YOU WANT ME TO PURGE YOU LIKE THE HERETIC YOU ARE?"-BLAM-
"Oi he killed the commissar! Heretic!"-flamer-
"Wait, I thought you purge heretics! Why did you burn him?"
"I don't know, he had green eyes, seems kinda xenos to me."
"You idiots! Now we have no fucking squad leader!"
"We don't need one! We just storm that hill on 3 and purge the xenos with our bolters!"
-repeat untill squad is blam-

>>40715221
>implying having the steel to kill your own countrymen, brother, and sisters isn't hardcore

>>40710728
no mention of them on Lexicanum. Can you tell me more?

>>40715221
Most forces practice on sack dummies and target boards

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>>40715262
No it's not. It's not a challenge of any sort. It's a pointless massacre. Soldiers in charge of massacring civil populations also have a higher chance of becoming alcoholics and develop PTSD.
The new Krieg concept is retarded and stupid. the old Krieg with it's war industry, operas and trenches was much more diverse and fun.

>>40715345
Are you memeing or just genuinely autistic?

>>40711272
Thats 3:1 and it was a study by the USArmy in the cold war.

also: "prepared and fortified" need to be added.

>>40715346
What was old Krieg like? I don't remember them having more than a single paragraph written about them until more recently.

>>40711272
>to take any given fortification you need to out number your enemy 10:1

The saying has many variants depending on the time and place.
I heard the same with 3:1 and 5:1.

>>40711636
do they even put conscripts into regiments or do they just dump them next to a general and say:"FIGHT AND FOLLOW!"?
Would be cool if you get the same situation as in WWI where generals wrote "500 more men" or so in their normal requisition forms.
Then the Imperial Navy comes along and drops some guys off that are not officially part of a regiment, but rather just nameless bullet sponges for the actual slightly better trained/equipped regiments.

Fuck it, I am gonna write a regiment that consists only to recruit masses of people from hiveworlds. They go in, spread some propaganda, grab some volunteers, make them squad leaders, and then grab anyone who is still left as the lower IG footfolk.

Can you imagine being worth less than an Imperial Guardsman? Holy fuck.

>>40711979
Thats one thing I dislike about the IG, if you want to make your own regiment they have to stick to traditional cadian clothing or you will have to use LOTS of greenstuff.

>>40715400
All I knew about them before forgeworld picked them up was that they were an alternate steel legion paint job.

>>40715400
Basically 19th century Prussia and Saxony IN SPAAACE
Saxon Semperoper IN SPAACE
Prussian military IN SPAAACE
Prussian military industry IN SPAACE

>>40715537
Where could you read about this?

>>40715346
>It's not a challenge of any sort
They don't kill civilians. Every single male is a soldier in training and every women is a baby factory. They kill outcasts, breeding vat rejects, weaklings and dissenters. Those not capable of becoming kriegers are sent off into the wasteland where they join the myriad ramshackle warbands, so they're pretty much just patrolling the irradiated wasteland for lightly armed and super violent mutants to kill before they find them. It's more then just killing civilians, and is a slight challenge

>>40709006
I'm a Death Korps of Krieg fan. I'm a sucker for tragedy in 40k and they seem the most tragic. Plus I love the aesthetic and adore armies that all wear helmets or masks.

>>40715546
2nd edition had a few paragraphs on them I think. 3rd edition also had the whole prussian feel, but sans the opera. That was a 2nd edition thing.
If I remember correctly Krieg was known for a musical movement which was some kind of !neo-romanticism that concentrated on retelling old tales of glory and how Krieg should strive to outmatch them and become even better.

>>40714838

Nah, I see Valhallans as being pre-war Russia, maybe even czarists. Germans love their tanks, but Armageddon's key product is its infantry fighting vehicles, a concept Russia invented and that the Germans never even had.

Armageddon is also constantly on the defensive. Facing Chaos (mongols) in its distant past and orks (germans) in its present. Germany's wars are all wars of aggression or at least fought like it: Austria-Prussian war, Franco-Prussian war, world war I, and world war II.

People obsess over the helm shape, but other than that the tactics, history, and equipment all are a much more solid match for Russia than germany.

>>40715687

Now THEY sound much more like WW2 wehrmacht. Especially the nostalgia for brilliant victories of the past. Even the name.

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>>40715805
Orks were pretty much mongol nazi's at the time as well, even down the swastika armband.

>IG are my favorite
>they don't really get a lot of interesting stuff
It would be nice if they got anything other than NEW SUPERHEAVY TANK 999.99 BUY TODAY

>>40715805
What the fuck are you talking about, IFVs post date APCs by a decade or so, were pioneered by West Germany and the Soviets didn't come out with the BMP1 until a decade after this, during WW2 the closest thing to an IFV there was would have probably been the Wehmarcht half-tracks like the Sd.Kfz. 251, the Red Army preferring it's infantry to either be in footsloging, in soft tops or to literally ride tanks at this time (and their immediate post war tank designs even included hand-holds for this) and never even had a mass produced APC (although they did use loaned M3's occasionally), you clearly know fuck all about history at all, but most damningly, it's a line of fucking miniatures, who their uniform most resemble is the most important part not some minor detail.

>>40716113

The 12-3 saw limited production and didn't carry useful numbers of infantry anyway, whereas the BMP was a clear sign that the post-war soviets bought into the IFV concept heart and soul and carried a full squad. Don't even try to claim a half-track counts.

Do you need a squeegie for all the spittle on your monitor?

Steel Legion fits the fluff, the personality, and the doctrine of being Dieselpunk Space Commies. And, oh by the way, if you're that desperate to play your precious space nazis, then that's what Krieg is for.

Sheesh. What a moron.

>>40715486
>Can you imagine being worth less than an Imperial Guardsman?

"What is PDF?" for $300.

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>>40715805
And the Tsarist-like belongs to the Vostroyan Firstborn.
>>40716231
Now you're just trying too hard, enjoy your damage control.

>>40716231
>whereas the BMP was a clear sign that the post-war soviets bought into the IFV concept
Yeah, in the late sixties.

>>40715486
>>40716255
Oh, also, regiments from different worlds don't mix. Too many cultural and lingual problems, plus different command structures and tactics.

>>40716285

Have knowledge, apply knowledge, type knowledge, captcha, post.

Winning actually wasn't all that hard.

>>40716255

That's about $299 more than the typical Imperial officer would pay for a PDF regiment.

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>>40716231
>Steel Legion fits the fluff, the personality, and the doctrine of being Dieselpunk Space Commies.

The fuck am I reading?

>if you're that desperate to play your precious space nazis, then that's what Krieg is for

WW1 in space = Nazis. Is this what they're teaching kids in school these days?

>>40715805
>I see Valhallans as being pre-war Russia, maybe even czarists

Then what are Vostroyans?

>Germans love their tanks, but Armageddon's key product is its infantry fighting vehicles

Because the game does not feature half-tracks. But it does feature Chimeras and Armageddon is known for its mechanized infantry tactics.

>Armageddon is also constantly on the defensive.

Because Germany sure hasn't. And has never press ganged citizens to protect their homes like Armageddon has with hive militia.

>Chaos (mongols)

Nice stretch.

>orks (germans)

Now who's looking at helmet shapes? And old ones at that.

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Death Korps of Krieg hands down for me. I wouldn't argue that they're "the best" regiment, given how each one more or less is specialized, but I find them the most interesting due to their history and aesthetics. It's said a lot that they're soul-less/mindless clones, but there is a difference between each man even if it's extremely subtle. Given the uniform and tactics they mimick, as well as the rumors of their musical background, I'd like to think that a pre-civil war Krieg mimicked Prussia during the late Victorian era.

Some interesting points:
>Men who are deemed too weak to serve are still given a purpose. They're lead up onto the surface wastelands and are holed up in city ruins under the guise that they're to undergo training. At the ruins they have a recording of a Commissar play, commemorating the bravery of every single man for serving his planet and the Imperium. The recording then orders them to march forth and battle against the legitimate DKoK regiments to the last, so that their brothers will be better prepared to face the enemies of the Imperium.

>Fathers pass down their helmets to their sons, if they actually survive their service to retirement. Obviously this is extremely rare, as the helmets they pass down are pickelhaubes (Those WWI German helmets with the spike on top). When was the last time you ever saw a Krieger wearing a pickelhaube?

Sure they may be grim-dark, but I wouldn't classify them as edgy persay. I'd like to think that there's a Krieger somewhere out there on an Agri-world with a wife just trying to adjust and enjoy life as a normal citizen. If men from other regiments can do it, why couldn't a Krieger?

>>40716635

Jeez man, you gonna cry?

>>40711272
>Probably going to cite Vraks

The Vraks books states that Krieg has no officer academies, so their officers need advisers to help with planning. So yeah, those books are a pretty good source for Krieg using crappy tactics.

>>40714589
It was also mentioned that he used them for unspecified 'inspiration' when he created the Space Marines. So maybe Malcador's comment that he told the Emperor to make the Primarchs female wasn't a joke.

>TFW no 11 foot tall battle Lolis smiting the enemies of man

>>40714589
>Geno five-two chilliad
>highest rank in the regiment was that of Uxor, a position only able to be held by women
>resultant children were born to be Geno warriors and uxors
>resulted in the awakening of extremely weak psychic powers in the female candidates
>a 'felt connection' to their men, and an ability to perceive their operational situation at a higher level
>manifested on the battlefield as a quicker and more intelligent response to strategic situations, and a well-informed command tree

Nice to see you've played some F.E.A.R., Dan.

>>40711947
>Margret Thatcher
Stop your Memes please.

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>>40709006
>mfw learning about Harakoni Warhawks
>literally Kasrkins mixed with Elysians

>>40719133
You know why he said that right?

>>40718809

Also they slowly lost their powers until they were just normal girls after they got past their early 20's so he watches strike witches as well.

Also the uxors were sterile, john mentions it as one of the reasons they were all massive sluts.

>>40719150
Who?
Tell me more.

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>>40719584
Imagine if Elysians used carapace armor and hellguns/Kasrkins used grav-gliders. Their standard tactic is to be dropped from the low orbit and operate behind enemy lines.

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Icelus Guard.
i'll just leave this here.

>>40719892
>roman emperor working as a plague doctor with a gun

Given that Snipers were important in WWI, would it be too far fetched for Krieg to field a regiment of them occasionally?

They wouldn't operate as a Regiment but be parsed out to others like tanks or artillery.

>>40719835
Oh man I've seen them.
So basically they're the perfect IG regiment.
AKA my new favorite

>>40720236
You and everyone else.

I swear, if FW ever did a model range for them, I would buy them, no questions asked.

Not that standard Elysians look bad or anything its just... well I mean come on. They are fucking Harakoni Warhawks.

>>40715866
What of "19th century" did you not understand?

If you want a Wehrmacht-like regiment look at Armageddon.

>>40715805
>Germans love their tanks, but Armageddon's key product is its infantry fighting vehicles, a concept Russia invented and that the Germans never even had.

>Lachender_Panzergrenadier.jpg

You mean armed infantry carriers? German military had them and used them when available.

>>40717377
Bait harder, no one will bite at shit this bad.

>>40719892
Looks cool. Some fluff for them?

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Presenting the regiment everyone forgets about, the Maccabian Janissaries!

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>>40721114
Another pic.

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>>40715537
I thought Mordians were Prussians with the whole landwehr style.

>>40715602
Not quite. Those deemed unfit for use, either through some genetic or mental issue, are sent topside in lackluster gear and used to 'wet the beaks' of the fresh Krieg regiments in live-fire exercises. While it might mean there are deaths, yes, this also means that every Krieger deployed is already a veteran of AT LEAST one battle.

Read 'Down Amongst the Dead Men'. It's from the view of one of the rejects, and only a few pages.

Colonel Schafer's Last Chancers any good?

>>40721958
Nope, they're all bad.

Doh-oh-oh-oh!

>>40721543
Mordians are US Marine Corps in dress uniforms, I thought everyone knew that.

>>40720054
I think Mordians are just generic 18C European army with added tonks, tbh they look to me most like US navy dress uniforms but I think that's the epaulets.

>>40722150
I've heard that many times, but I've heard a lot of things on the internet.

>>40720434
>I swear, if FW ever did a model range for them, I would buy them, no questions asked.
Or you could just buy the jump packs from FW and stick them onto the Kasrkin models.
All codex illustrations basically look like default Kasrkin models. Nothing fancy.
Black fatigues and bone armor. Done.

>>40721114
>>40721132
Huh, though more people would like these...

>>40722549
WHAT KARSKIN MODELS.

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>>40721114
>>40721132
>>40722553
They're based on an old pencil sketch from Jes Godwin and there have been plenty of people doing conversions based on them. I myself got a bunch of chestplates here based on their design.
There was a guy on warseer or dakka that cast entire minis in metal though.

>>40722578
The old metal ones. Hit ebay up. Since the Scions landed they're on there a lot. With a bit of patience and luck you're all set.

>>40722549
Now all you need are the kasrkin models. And not-hot-shot lasguns.

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>>40722665
They wouldn't even be that hard to convert with plastic Cadians. All you need to add are the kneepads and tight armor. The plates on the hips you can just cut from 0.5mm plastic card. Throw the Cadian respirator heads on there and you got the same look, sans hellfire guns.

>>40722653
They are painfully expensive. Not really worth it.

Any other suggestions guys?

>>40722808
3rd party shit and cadians.

>>40722837
Any good sites?

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>>40722808
>>40722769
There are loads of other cool 28mm troopers.

Take your pick. I'd recommend Anvil Industries for heroic 28mm, and puppetswar for a more true scale/FW scale thing.
Khurasan if you are in murica has some nice 28mm guys as well.

>>40722769
Where do you get the Cadian respirator heads?

>>40722893
FW. Oh and don't forget maxmini and the like also sell armored legs for IG models. To in theory all you need are the heads, legs and jumppacks. The rest is GW plastic.

>>40722868
http://www.anvilindustry.co.uk/AFTERLIFE/Conversion-Parts

Might work. FW makes respirator heads and chutes.

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>>40723120
Don't even get me started on headswaps

>>40722150
And what do you think did the Marines try to emulate? Prussia fick ja!

>>40723259
I wonder what else works for IG bitz.

>>40725825
Basically everything that is 28mm and heroic rather than truescale and you even got a little wiggle room there if you approach it intelligently.
Basically every human 28mm mini that seems about right in scale which is an insane amount considering how huge the market is, not only for sci-fi, but also fantasy and historical and or pulp miniatures.

That said there is a pretty good list of people that produce bits compatible with GW plastic kits on the B&C in their converting corner.

Though even a headswap can make a huge difference. Imagine some Cadians with Tricorn heads or with Roman legionnaire helmets. You can get all those separately for a few bucks. It's incredibly cheap to customize you guard units if you know where to look.

>>40722159
Yeah, just about everyone from France to Russia has had a uniform somewhat similar to what the Mordians wear. I do really like the idea of square rank and file formations in 40k though, people mock DKoK for using ancient tactics but forget what Mordians are doing. At least both sides back up their archaic gun lines with a fuck load of tanks and arty.

Also I really like the idea of having both flak and carapace armour woven into their uniforms, it makes the formation sound a little more like it could actually work.

>>40711332
yeah, I got a similar idea from that part of the book, only a few melta guns- but they did try to hold off the Necrons in a way that the Meltas were valued more than the troopers

>>40722150
Hey, they're Napoleanites first and foremost.

>>40719366
So...Strike Witches 40K?

>>40728022
>carapace armour woven into their uniforms

Flak is a woven fabric like kevlar and making uniforms is easy. Carapace is a rigid plasteel plate armour either as a series of plates around the body or a heavy cuirass.

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>>40709006
As with Spess Marines, I like homebrews the best, but of the canon Homeworld-Regiments I like the Armageddon Steel Legion the best. Their strategies of charging in with Russes and Iron Fist Squads in amphibious Chimeras while artillery shell the fuck out of the Orks fits my playstyle perfectly. What little fluff of theirs that I've seen has been disappointingly bland, though.
I'm also a fan of their uniforms. A nice tunic-length coat, helmet, and gas mask just makes a great aesthetic IMO, and as an added bonus it's relatively easy to paint.

>>40709329
>wish GW would actually support their model lines
Use third party brah

>>40733556
Fluff wise Armageddon Steel Legions rock mechanized infantry. Which is cool because melta vets in chimeras is the best IG build on the tabletop.

>>40711877
>>40711928
>>40711968
>>40715508
You can also get minis for other games and give them lasguns. Hell, historical wargames tend to have way cheaper minis!
>>40714542
I haven't, nor played against them, but I hear they're pretty fun. With that many ways to deploy wherever the fuck you want, I'm inclined to believe it.
>>40720863
They're the PDF for the Emperor's Nightmare's homeworld, iirc. Being personally trained by Marines tends to give you PDF troopers on par with IG veterans.
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Emperor%27s_Nightmare#Fluffy_bits

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>>40719221
Impartial observer here, I do not and would like some spoonfeeding

>>40716231
>The Schützenpanzer Lang HS.30 no longer exists
>Soviets more advanced than anyone!
>They invented IFVs!!!

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>>40722633
>I myself got a bunch of chestplates here based on their design.
the design was used in the BFM set

I'd like to see GW do it again

>>40733935
Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka was a random name rolled up for Andy Chamber's warboss back in.. the mid-90's?

Mag Uruk Thraka sounds vaguely similar to Margaret Thatcher and some nerds made it a meme that it was deliberate despite Andy telling them otherwise.

>>40733993
>Mag Uruk Thraka sounds vaguely similar to Margaret Thatcher
Oh, I guess I should have figured that out. Still, I remember that bit about Ghazzy being Andy's random warboss from a white dwarf approximately a hojillion years ago. Thanks anon

>>40733993
Any more info or ideas where one could find info?

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>>40733965
Not quite what I meant.

>>40720584

Armageddon is post war russian. Krieg is wehrmacht.

>>40720761

Those aren't IFVs. Also, Chimeras aren't halftracks. You do play 40k, right? Have you seen the chimera model?

>>40728847

Dude. They've got this elaborate backstory to justify slutty loli commanders and their genemod beefy stud followers.

This is so Magical Realm it hurts. How the FUCK did this come from a legit publisher and not /tg/??

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>>40734964
Or maybe that's not the point and only /tg/'s interpretation is some neckbeards magical realm

>>40709509
Did vostroyans get any fluff after their immediate release?

>>40733952

Sheesh, the napkinwaffen worship from this guy is ridiculous. A limited production vehicle that barely fits the role and was invented after the war is supposed to be distinctively nazi? This is right up there with your Chimera = halftrack point. It carries about as many infantry as a merkava-- or is a merkava an IFV in your weird little mind? Oh, wait... merkava... nvm I know what you'll say.

Meanwhile you've got one of the most widely manufactured IFVs in the world, one that actually carries enough troops to fit its role and is absolutely distinctive for its army.

I mean seriously, it's a game. Paint them dark grey and stick swastikas on them if it means so much to you. You'll be the coolest meth-head at the klan meeting. Now that I think of it, it's probably best that

>>40734870
Krieg is Imperial Germany numbnuts

>>40735053
>A limited production vehicle

You can just say "I have no idea what the Schützenpanzer Lang HS.30 is" this is an anonymous image board you know? You being wrong doesn't hurt your character in the slightest.

You can leave your pride and arrogance at the door.

>>40719835

Harakoni are made of awesome. The 1d4chan article really isn't puffing them up.

I'm surprised we don't see more conversion bits pop up on shapeways. What I'd love to see are some more dynamic leg poses for dropping troops.

Hell, I'd love to see more IG regiments in plastic. Interchangeable parts FTW.

>>40735066
But muh BMP first IFV ever made! Muh soviet superiority!

Y-You fucking gnazi!

>>40734215

Margaret Thatcher was also called the Iron Lady. Gaghull has his Iron 'Ead.

>>40735053
>A limited production vehicle

Still a mass produced IFV predating the BMP.

>that barely fits the role

Armoured, tracked, turreted auocannon, can transport people. Fits fine to me.

>was invented after the war is supposed to be distinctively nazi?

Nobody said the tank is Nazi German. He's not the one claiming Soviets invented the IFV.

Are you next gonna say Steel Legion is not panzer grenadiers because they have laser rifles?

>It carries about as many infantry as a merkava-- or is a merkava an IFV in your weird little mind?

I guess the Bradley isn't an IFV either then, with its limited transport capacity.

>Meanwhile you've got one of the most widely manufactured IFVs in the world, one that actually carries enough troops to fit its role and is absolutely distinctive for its army.

So are all IG regiments soviets, because they all have chimeras?

>Paint them dark grey and stick swastikas on them if it means so much to you. You'll be the coolest meth-head at the klan meeting. Now that I think of it, it's probably best that

And you're free to paint your Steel Legion with red stars, comrade, since it clearly means that much to you. I'm sure the college beta faggots with their Che Guevara t-shirts will be all over your dick.

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[russian swearing intensifies]

>>40716305
I have an IG task force that is made of every regiment GW has made models for.

My shtick is that they had to do a combined force because yadda yadda form up.

In reality, I just didnt want to paint 160 cadians.

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>>40735233
[allahu akhbar intensifies]

>>40735055
Krieg is just WW2: the army. Their uniform has hints of French and British equipment but they are mostly German in style and name.

>>40722132
You get a banana sticker.

>>40721958
Fun Regiment, picked up the whole team a little while back for 10 bucks.

The models do suffer somewhat from their age, but I like the fluff.

>>40733963
ugh, what I would give for some Praetorians.

Only regiment I don't currently have the full model line for besides Valhallans (those fucking HWT's are a nightmare to find)

Some day......

>>40735344
more like WW1 you dongus

>>40735268
Crusade force.

Though why must you make all your dudes the same? Sure, I got basic troopers, but my vets are different, my conscripts are different, my artillery crew are basically catachans, etc.

>>40735344
>WW2

I really hope that's a typo.

>>40735543
That..... is a much better explanation.

How did I not think of that.

And I don't have to make them the same I guess, I'm just not very handy at GS, and too poor to buy a bunch of conversion bits.

I also really like that every troop I have is a different regiment.

Definitely the most variety at my LGS.

Now if only I could get around to finishing the paint on my damned vehicles (still not sure which regiment I want my Valks to belong to.)

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>krieg
>ww1
>german

They made the ragnarok, the KV-2 of 40k, and use human wave tactics, have little regard for their troops, are the result of a civil war with strong sense of patriotism but poor tactical sense, use fortifications, etc.

Krieg confirmed for Soviets, amirite, gaiz?

>>40735588
A macharian crusade army with units from different regiments was one of my ideas when starting IG.

>>40710154
>Dead Men Walking
that sounds good
got a dl link?

>>40710485
>If they're less valuable than their lasguns then logically they shouldn't take their lasguns
He didn't mean the lasguns are particularly valuable. He is highlighting the inherent worthlessness of the individual human life (particularly the Kriegers) in this setting.

>>40737816
Yup. Even in munitorum manual it states that the average lifespan of a guardsman in the field is 6 months, that it's the duty of officers to ensure the equipment of the fallen is recovered, and that no modifications are made to kits, as to ensure new troops using them will receive a standard issue kit.

>>40733842
Aren't Elysians out of date or something?

I know D-99 is up to date, but what about vanilla Elysians?

Don't care if people think their over-done or what not, but gotta go with Catachan. Fuckin' love those guys, probably among the last bits of humor left in 40K.

Also the Mordian Iron Guard. Dressed to kill.

My favorite IG units are the 31st Riverine and the Tanith First and only. Nobody beats them. Except maybe cadians

>>40738764
Bumping this.

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>>40715327
Not him, but Imperial Armour 1. Captain Obadiah Schfeer.

>>40716769
I dont think you could convince any krieg soldier to settle down. They are like the catachan in that regard.

To them living too long is considered shameful. I imagine most of them have some sort of estimated lifespan after moving to the krieg surface since the radiation is apparently bad enough to cripple a genestealer and those uniforms are probably meant for partial protection.

I'd say a krieg that lives long enough but isnt found worthy to be promoted to a high enough position would probably refuse organ replacements and let himself succumb to the radiation poisoning rather than take up valuable resources.

With that in mind, the grenadiers make perfect sense, and sodliers willing to climb up necron destroyers with nothing but a satchel full of krak grenades arent doing so "to appear edgy".

That said, A krieg would definitely be curious of his surroundings and might even be inquisitive when he regards the moment to be appropriate.

Imagine a lone grenadier getting left behind enemy lines (since he was never expected to survive the mission) and managing to fight his way through to the opposite side where a different regiment is holding ground.

Imagine his regiment leaving him behind after the campaign is over because he isn't worth the fuel it would cost to send something over to pick him up.

The other regiment may decide to absorb him, if they dont decide to simply blam him and take his gear, and if hes lucky its going to be an uptight disciplined regiment like the iron guard and he'll fit right in. But if its a laid back cadian regiment with a majority of its personnel being off-world recruits then his time would probably be interesting. Sure there'd be plenty of discipline and training going around to keep him happy, but imagine if some of the lads from the kasrkin take a shine to him and take him with them on one of their shore leaves.

>>40723691
USMC Dress Blues predate the existence of Prussia.

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I quite like the look and feel of the old Necromunda Imperial Army soldiers.
I'd love to see a full sized Van Saar army, too.

>>40711228
literally Tleilaxu the regiment.

>>40740245
water gun titan

>>40719892
I really do enjoy some of /tg/'s works. That regiment in particular and the SM's of Icelus where always my favorite. I even provided some fluf for creatures in the railway wastes

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>>40735624
Soviets+german trench tactics. A blender of a regiment.


That tank fills me with buttmad. It's stupid, because all tanks in WH40k should make me butmad, but that one in particular man. such massive turret flanks.

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>>40740158
>USMC Dress Blues predates 1525

This is what US marines looked when landwehr looked like >>40721543

>>40740454
Have you ever seen a KV-2

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i just love the IG in general. The thought of flying over a battle field, Washes of red showing the intense shoot outs while the thunder of big guns rocks the world... It's a good thought.

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>>40740732
I have the same feelings for it. And it's not that I think I could design a better tank, No. I just get ass-mad and let my armchair general get the better of me when I see tanks with massively exposed sheet Armour.

Essetialy: Ignore me I suck HEAT.

Though this talk does make me wish we had more art of Anti-Armour IG squads doing their things.

>>40740799
God, Death Korps of Krieg vs Renegades and Heretics would be the most fucking awesome game to watch ever.

>>40740872
Mix some of the gameplay from Verdun, and it would be amazing

>>40722893
There are some in the standard cadian infantry set. I already got 1 squad of them. Made them veterans.

>>40740846
There's not enough IG art in general
A lot of the art they're in has them as the fodder for some other faction
I don't think I've ever seen art of IG that isn't an infantry charge, tank charge, or "look at how many IG there are"

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>>40740936
is verdun a game based on ww1?

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>>40740985
in terms of official art, I agree with you. THere is very little outside of 'fuckloads of dudes fuckign shit up' or 'fuckloads of dudes getting fucked up' But fan made art has some good shit like this and>>40740846

>>40741008
Yup. Trenches, gas and all the fun that follows

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>>40741031
>>40740985
and this.

>>40741042
how do they work with gas's horrendous propensity to float were ever it feels like

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>>40740846
U mad, bro?

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>>40741116
I think he mad.

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>>40741008
>A game named after one of the bloodiest and longest battles of the western front
GEE I WONDER

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>>40740454
Real tank broheim.

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>>40741161
Mmm, sexy box turrets...

>>40741109
For videogame reasons, it dissipates quickly.
It's a good balance between an arcade feel and gritty realism.

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>>40741171
Verdun was one of the rare german offensives on the western front. Their general was an artillery enthusiast that thought that encircling the poorly guarded fort of Verdun and shelling it to death was a brilliant idea. Unfortunately for him, soon after the attack general Petain, the pessimistic fortifications lover was assigned as general of the Verdun region. After assessing that the French army will be able to hold he held the line till the first assaults ended. After the first month it was clear that the Germans wouldn't be able to win this. They still pushed thought for several months shelling the entirety of Verdun till it looked like something that came straight out of hell.
Even after several months of uninterrupted german offensive the french still held 1 road to Verdun. It was dubbed the "Voie Sacrée", the sacred route. 24/24 7/7 the road was filled with on one side ambulances taking wounded soldiers back home and the other way filled with trucks transporting fresh men to Verdun

>>40740158
Prussia is older than the US as a whole.

>>40740936
I just wish that game had a single player mode. I never do online gaming, but Verdun looks so badass.

>>40738904
I love that Mordia is a Death World and a Hive world

Somebody looked at that place and said
"Everyone who tries to live here dies. Let's build a fuck-off-big city on that and see what happens"

>>40743641
Yeah, i hear ya. It would be awesome with some sort of campaign. But the online is pretty awesome too. Blood, mood and gassy goodness along with clutch bolt action snapshots and tight spaces.

>>40740846
I love that drawing. I once tried to writefag a story around it, basically she is a medic and he a vox caster, their comrades are celebrating their victory and he actually just walked over to that tank to take a piss, but he noticed her staring at the horizon and sat down next to her.
Turns out she saw a whole load of shit during that battle that he didn't notice because all he did was shoot his lasgun and reload.
The situation becomes more and more grimm as he wishes the conversation to stop, but it does not and all the memorys that build up over the years come up as he slowly sobers up. He gets nervous and wants to return to his friends, he wanta to drink the thoughts away, but his sore conscience is keeping him with her. He stays and they silently watch the sun rise over the battlefield as the rain washes the blood away.

>>40740846
>Not getting ass blasted about the god awful shot traps on most vehicles

>>40722883
Love that pic Anon

Bump

>>40745093
I've got a better backstory
>it's fucking raining
>god damn is it cold
>this coffee is terrible but at least it's warm
>I fucking hate xenos so much

>>40733565
One of my favorite parts of playing guard. You can use any generic 28mm space soldiers and still stay within the lore. As long as you don't play at a GW store that is.

>>40743686

Isn't every hive world also a death world from the effluent of a hundred billion people living on it?

Speaking of IG, I'm kitbashing a Leman Russ Exterminator together.

Would an MG42 pintle mount be a god substitute for a heavy stubber? The guardsmen themself have a german motif, mostly due to me cutting their guns and sticking ww2 german gun parts onto them and slapping stahlhelms on them.

I'm also putting battle damage on their gear; does anybody have a way of doing that that isn't attacking the model with an exacto? I'm open to new methods.

>>40740046
>Imagine his regiment leaving him behind after the campaign is over because he isn't worth the fuel it would cost to send something over to pick him up.
>The other regiment may decide to absorb him, if they dont decide to simply blam him and take his gear, and if hes lucky its going to be an uptight disciplined regiment like the iron guard and he'll fit right in. But if its a laid back cadian regiment with a majority of its personnel being off-world recruits then his time would probably be interesting. Sure there'd be plenty of discipline and training going around to keep him happy, but imagine if some of the lads from the kasrkin take a shine to him and take him with them on one of their shore leaves.
This scenario is basically why I want to play a Krieger in a non-Krieg unit so badly.

>>40735066

It was limited-production. You can just say "I have no idea what limited production means". Being an asshole about it doesn't make you any less wrong.

Why not just slip quietly out of the thread? Why bother trying to defend this? Are you seriously claiming this was in widespread production?

Also, responding to your other post. The bradley and BMP transport a squad. The 12-3 carries a fire team. There are tanks that carry this many people, and that doesn't make them IFVs either.

>>40735155

CHambers has confirmed numerous times that the rumor is false.

>>40747046
>I'm also putting battle damage on their gear; does anybody have a way of doing that that isn't attacking the model with an exacto? I'm open to new methods.
Use a sponge to apply random patterns or cracked paint.

>>40747391
wait, are you telling me thatcher didn't get a gyrojet round lodged in her brain?

>>40740985

FFG has a lot, but you're right not a lot of between battles misery of being a soldier stuff.

>>40709006
Valhallans all the way

>>40741188
Outside of obscene obliquities, you gain very little effective thickness from sloping your armor against modern long-rod penetrators and shaped-charge rounds

>>40728188

I love that whole concept of two guys, one lasgun, second guy gets to shoot once the first guy dies and drops his.

One really cool part of playing IG is all the administratum sillyness. The transport arrives with a hundred thousand bolter shells in the wrong caliber, 500 tropical uniforms (you're fighting on a hive world where the atmosphere would burn your skin and melt your lungs if exposed), and strict orders to evacuate "phil" from the 284th (which was killed to a man nearly a century ago). The oxygen tanks you needed were pulled from the transport as a cost-saving measure.

>>40710362
It was a terrible joke, anon

>>40747572
That's not true. It increases the effective thickness of the armour versus projectiles hitting from directly ahead of the armor.

This is going to sound petty as hell, but I'd like the IG more if they had more vehicles that didn't have hull mounted guns. It's just so goofy looking.

>>40749315
You don't technically have to take them.

If it rustles you so much kitbash a giant turret onto a russ, fill in the hull gap, and put all the weapons on the turret/coax. That way it looks practical while retaining dakka

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>>40741161
>>40741116
>>40741176
You've done it now! you've set me into a tizzy you have!

>>40741393
Jesus fuck... that is amazing. Thanks for the info man, I really want to have a only war game based off of that. I can't decide who i'd want th eplayers as, and who the factions are.

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I am thinking of a Regiment based on Red china, and I'm not sure how to get the look/feel right. Any suggestions or ideas?

>>40750785
That depends which way you want to go.

Unlimited numbers?
>Conscripts backed up by a Commissar and maybe a Priest chucked in there as well to make them fearless.

The obsession with Sun Zu styled Maneuver Warfare?
>Vets in Chimeras with Sentinels to provide AT and maybe some hell hounds to make them more killy

Using third party heads on Cadian Bodies let's you take on just about any theme so look into that

>>40750785
Lots of Roughriders, Redshield conscripts and few heavy weapons / support.

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>>40750785
For the look part I'd have a peek at Victoria Miniatures.
If you use the heads with dress caps with green uniforms and red headbands it kinda looks like a chines uniform.
Paint their left pauldron red or put a red star on it as regimental heraldry. That should do it.

pic related are just some helmets that would look cool on an entire regiment I thought.

>>40716635
I teach kids in school, and when I teach them about WWI Russians, I teach them Valhallan tactics. "Send in the next wave!"

>>40740158
They predate the early 1700s? That would be news to the Prussians.

>>40709006
ditto on savlar chem dogs
mordant acid dogs and necromundan 8th are cool too for the same reason

>>40747369
>More of them were produced than various other APCs, Tanks etc
>JUST LIMITED PRODUCTION ANON!

Wouldn't you say that everything is "limited" production? Even your precious BMP?

Furthermore neither the BMP or Bradley transport a squad, unless suddenly squads have reduced their size significantly.

>>40747572
What you do gain is various APDS or APFSDS tend to smash into bugger all instead of penetrating.

Not to mention the usual effects sloping has on the likes of HEAT.

>>40746623
Nah, it has to be actively inimical to human life.

Although admittedly in Mordia's case it's because it's tidally locked so one side is fuck-off hot and the other side's fuck-off cold.

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Steel Legion.

Aesthetically they're like Kriegers without going full edge, and their mechanized infantry flavour is great.

I like that they don't look at all like Cadians, but like Cadians they're one of the more 'normal' and 'human' regiments in composition. Every day hive ganger scum, turned into an effective fighting force by the hard discipline of the Imperial Guard.

>>40735274

They're more like Fremen mixed with Laurence of Arabia.

>>40746623
Nope.

Hive Worlds are defined by hive spires, massive population centers measuring miles high, housing vast majority of the planet's population for any reason. In many cases the planets did not start off as inhospitable, they just became that way through industrial waste, war, or what ever.

Death Worlds are planets naturally inhospitable to large scale human settlement, but not impossible to settle. Death worlds can be jungles, ice deserts, volcanic planets, toxic environments, etc. Anything that makes life hard for normal human settlement, but can still house small settlements.

Naturally one world can have several definitions.

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>>40755983
>Every day hive ganger scum, turned into an effective fighting force by the hard discipline of the Imperial Guard.

These guys do that too.

>select all pictures of soup
>only one picture of soup, had to select a lasagna as well

>>40710417

This is one of the stories I read over and over and over as a kid, pre-internet, starting my little IG Catachan army

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Necromunda 8th

>>40735983
http://bookzz.org/book/1896259/23c076

Get it while it's hot, nigger

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>>40758506
Thanks based anon!

>>40758506
Sheeiit. Thanks, man.

>>40758506
How do !?!?

>>40760515
What?

>>40760515
You need to install a program that can read that file format. It is a widespread format and you should probably have a reader for that anyways.

I used STDUviewer. Unfortunate naming but it works and is Freeware. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STDU_Viewer

Or pick a program from this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPUB#Software

>>40750684
In 40k the second lane would not be filled with ambulances, but with more men.

"Just throw men at their guns until they run out of bullets!"

>>40747147
I'd rather play one serving under an Inquisitor and being made to work with the likes of sororitas and space marines or even better, being made to work for a Radical Inquisitor and being forced to serve with sanctioned xenos.
>Requisitioned as a bodyguard in exchange for wargear and supplies for under geared regiment.
>Honor bound to serve as unquestioningly and efficiently as possible
>He's well known for getting shit done despite his questionable means
>Step on ship
>Breaches of protocol everywhere
>No authority outside of advising with your logis calculations and combat support
>Go on first mission
>Realize your team consists of a tau water caste, ork kommando and eldar banshee.
>Consider protesting
>Do the math and realize that the numbers add up
>Forced to play nice with them
>Inquisitor doesnt give a shit about how uncomfortable you are and only cares that you're a hard motherfucker in battle
>You are sometimes required to go on long term two man missions with xenos with their well being as your main objective.
>These missions sometimes require you to visit said xenos homeworld.

>>40761917
Scratch STDUVierwer. I got myself SumatraPDF, far supperior and released for free under GNU License. Support freesoftware.