Yes!

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Fuck that shit, and also don't listen to the terrible ideas of anons there!

better late then never, and i'm sufficiently bezzed up to watch the champion battle.

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“Come on,” you take Robin by the hand. “You need rest. I’ll get a nice hotel room”

She looks up at you, then takes your hand. “O-okay.” You lift her up. “Do you want me to tie you up again, or-”

“Rest,” you repeat.

She looks down, embarrassed. “Okay.”

You both hold hands on your walk back. About halfway there, Robin grabs a hold of your arm and squeezes. “Kat, you love me, right?”

“Yeah...” You don’t like where this is going.

“And you won’t leave me?” You see desperation in her eyes. “Even if I can’t be who I want you to be? I’ll... I’ll try my best. I’ll do anything you want. Anything.” Robin kisses the small of your neck.

You stop her. “Robin. Don’t do that. I love you for you, okay?”

The desperation fades from her eyes. “...Right.” She kisses you on the cheek. “Right. I-I’m sorry. I love you too.”

You stop by the Pokemon center, meet with everyone, and arrange to get a hotel room. You walk Robin up to the room.

“Do you think I could win?” She’s still sort of staring off at nothing.

“Well... maybe. You fooled her with a few of the things you pulled at the gym.”

Robin keeps staring off as you tuck her in. “Do you think I should battle her?”

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>>40545583
You sigh, not knowing what to tell her. “I don’t know. It seems really fishy. It could be some sort of trick.”

Robin’s eyes flutter down. That encounter really took a lot out of her. “Maybe you’re right.”

You turn to her, but she’s already passed out.

You catch your reflection in the mirror. You get the feeling that things are going to change soon. You barely recognize the girl staring back at you. This girl stands confident, assured, strong. She has a tan, scars, well fitting clothes, and longer hair than you remember.

But still just a girl.

>Crawl into bed. Tomorrow is a big day
>Go for a walk. You have a lot on your mind and can’t sleep
>Study. You need to be more prepared than ever
>Find one of your friends to talk to. It’s not that late yet
>Something else

>>40545634
>>Find one of your friends to talk to. It’s not that late yet
Need their advice on this thing.

>>40545634
>Go for a walk. You have a lot on your mind and can’t sleep

>>40545634
>Find one of your friends to talk to. It’s not that late yet
Let's ask Clair for advice on handling this situation maybe? Or Jeanine.

>>40545634
> Play your flute with Meloetta.

>>40545634
>Find one of your friends to talk to. It’s not that late yet
>>40545684
or this

>>40545634
>Something else

Got to side with >>40545684
>Play your flute with Meloetta.

>>40545634
>Find one of your friends to talk to. It’s not that late yet

>>40545684
Ugh. If we can't call up someone's parents or Fir for an adult perspective on this mess...

>>40545684
this.

>>40545634
>Find one of your friends to talk to. It’s not that late yet

>>40545634
>Crawl into bed. Tomorrow is a big day

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You hitch your pants back up and quietly slip out of the hotel room. You figure a good way to clear your head is to head out somewhere and play the flute with Meloetta.

Of course, you could bring a friend or two along, or call someone up on the way.

You don’t want to bring everyone, you’d draw too much attention and onlookers.

>Just you and Meloetta
>Invite Vance and Jeanine
>Invite Clair
>Call of Professor Fir
>Call Vance’s parents, they were really nice
>Call up the royal family
>Something else

>>40545879
>Just you and Meloetta

>>40545879
>Call Vance’s parents, they were really nice
>Just you and Meloetta

>>40545879
>Invite Vance and Jeanine
>Invite Clair

>>40545879
>Just you and Meloetta
>Call Vance’s parents, they were really nice

>>40545879
>Just you and Meloetta

>>40545879
>Invite Clair
We can ask for advice as well.

>>40545879
>>Just you and Meloetta
> Call up the royal family.

>>40545879
>Just you and Meloetta

>>40545879
>Invite Clair

>>40545879
>Invite Clair

>>40545879
>Just you and Meloetta

>>40545879
>>Just you and Meloetta

>>40545879
>Just you and Meloetta

>>40545879
>Just you and Meloetta

>>40545879
>>Invite Clair
Brace for the obligatory misunderstanding over exact nature of our invite.

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You decide it’s best just to go with Meloetta. You want to be able to follow your whims and really lose yourself.

You start making your way down to the lobby. Almost as soon as you get to the street, you bump into Erin. She sees and heads over.

“Hey! Glad I found you.” She smiles.

“You are?”

She reaches into a pocket. “Yeah! We had a teleconference with the head office. You’re hot!” She catches herself, remembering you have a girlfriend and might take that the wrong way. “Everyone wants a piece of you. The marketing people are begging for more merchandise. The film we have now is going to be sold in a box set as season 1.” She looks really excited as she talks. She leans in close. “They want to get you for a movie, album, and a bunch of other stuff!”

She goes over all the details she’s apparently not supposed to tell you yet. Devon Corp wants to strike while you’re hot and get you producing content for the next three months. They’re preparing a contract that has Robin, Vance, Jeanine, and Clair all also getting a massive paycheck.

“Wow.” You’re not sure how you feel about all this. It’s a lot to process.

“I can’t tell you the exact numbers,” she leans in again, “but all of your friends can buy yachts, and they can race them around the gigantic pool in your mega-yacht.”

You chat a bit more, but she seems to be able to see you’re already pretty pre-occupied. Eventually, she leaves, giving you a congratulatory pat on the back. “Think about it,” she tells you. “These sorts of things don’t last long. They’ll want an answer pretty quickly when they pitch it to you tomorrow.”

>Head to the park you battled and caught Meloetta in
>Head just outside of town, see something new
>Go to the spot that Robin’s mom said she’d be waiting to battle tomorrow
>Something else

>>40546034
>>40546161
>>40546169
>>40546201
Suspicious

>>40546325
I assure you, anon, I don't know the other two anons above me.

>>40546313
>>Head just outside of town, see something new

>>40546313
>>Head to the park you battled and caught Meloetta in

>>40546325
3 of those where 8+ minutes after the vote ended.

>>40546313
>but all of your friends can buy yachts, and they can race them around the gigantic pool in your mega-yacht.
the mark of the truly rich.

>Head just outside of town, see something new

>>40546313
>Head just outside of town, see something new

>>40546313
>Go to the spot that Robin’s mom said she’d be waiting to battle tomorrow

>>40546313
>Head just outside of town, see something new

>>40546313
>Go to the spot that Robin’s mom said she’d be waiting to battle tomorrow
We can scout in the process.

>>40546325
Relax the fuck up

>>40546313
>Go to the spot that Robin’s mom said she’d be waiting to battle tomorrow
I want to check this place for trickery, approach with caution

>>40546313
>Head just outside of town, see something new

>>40546325
What?That people voted? It is what you do in these threads anon.

>>40546313
>Go to the spot that Robin’s mom said she’d be waiting to battle tomorrow

Just throwing this idea for consideration:
Robin's mom said she will let Robin choose conditions of their match. If Robin decides to go with it, we could bend that for her andvantage.
Make it 1 on 1 and trade Meloeta to Robin for the match (or before and have them train in secret for a bit to get in sync).
Obviously this needs both of them to be okay with it, but I wager if we explain to Meloeta how much this would mean for Robin, she might go with it. This would give Robin both strong fighter and element of surprise.
Worth a try?

>>40546313
>Go to the spot that Robin’s mom said she’d be waiting to battle tomorrow

>>40546313
>Go to the spot that Robin’s mom said she’d be waiting to battle tomorrow

>>40546390
It wouldn't be Robins win if she got our help AND our Pokemon.

>>40546390
Keep in mind she IS the champion, her pokemon might be JUST as strong as melloetta, robins main advantage lies in her tactical ability, which relies on a range of pokemon
>>40546313
>Go to the spot that Robin’s mom said she’d be waiting to battle tomorrow

>>40546390
I really want to dissuade her from fighting at all.

So, I haven't been here for a couple of threads and cant be assed to read the archives right now. Robin is fighting her mother apparently. Why? What happens if she wins or loses?

>>40546313
>>Go to the spot that Robin’s mom said she’d be waiting to battle tomorrow

>>40546313
>Go to the spot that Robin’s mom said she’d be waiting to battle tomorrow


>>40546390
>Worth a try?
Not really, in my opinion.
Meloetta is hardly invincible, in a match between the Champions pokemon that she trained since who knows when, and Robin using a pokemon she used for a day at most, I would bet on the Champion.
Robin relies on tricks using special traits of her pokemon, she would be hurt by not being familiar with a pokemon even more than normally.

>>40546426
same. something about this just doesn't feel right to me.

>>40546432
She is the pokemon league champion and a terrible human being

If Robin wins she's the champ, if she loses but is impressive her mother plans to spirit her away for "Training"

>>40546432
If she wins she got championship, if she lost she got trained by her mother.

Oh wait, it will probably separate us from her. Hmm.

>>40546426
I'm a bit torn on it, I'm not quite sure what her mothers angle here is. Its obviously nothing good for Robin, but it could be outirhgt malevolent, like using the battle to toy with her and crush her confidence, or just callous tiger mom stuff where she 'thinks' she is training her for the better.
In the second case it might be good to agree to the match and twist her arm to have Kat come with them when they go train fore three months.

>>40546458

I thought it was if she wins she get's the special training

>>40546456
>>40546458
How does she plan to take her away? Kidnap her? I can't see that going well. Some legal bullshit? I think we should just convince Robin to not accept those condition (if is possible.)

>>40546473
I think we can persuade her to come with us, though... err. That may means reduction in lewd time...

>>40546480
No, if she wins, she becomes the champion.
Of course we don't know what exactly that entails, so it might end up being a bad thing too.

>>40546491
Uh, she is Robin's mother? And Robin will probably jump if she commands Robin to do so?

>>40546491
>How does she plan to take her away? Kidnap her?
Robin would agree to the condition of the match, so it would be voluntarily from Robins side. How she intends to prevent Kat from following, thats a different question.

>>40546501
>That may means reduction in lewd time...
Or increase., depending on how open her mom is.

>>40546516
>And Robin will probably jump if she commands Robin to do so?

Robin has years of parental issues though.

>>40546523
> Or increase., depending on how open her mom is.

Don't be lewd, anon.

>>40546516
>And Robin will probably jump if she commands Robin to do so?
Robin hates her mother. She blames her for destroying her family and turning her father into the asshole he is now.

>>40546502
Why is she doing this again?

>>40546516
Why is Kat not pointing out how twisted and wrong that is to Robin? I can't imagine she will have such a hard time convincing her.

>>40546542
And if she goes with her mother, everything will be okay again!

Well, that's one route anyway.

>>40546545
>Why is she doing this again?
We don't actually know for sure.

>>40546545
>Why is Kat not pointing out how twisted and wrong that is to Robin?
Because Robin knows that?

>>40546545

Nor am I. It is just paranoia talking.

>>40546563
>And if she goes with her mother, everything will be okay again!
Not at all. Literally everyone in Robins family resents everyone else.
They got some major issues.

>>40546417
Normally, I'd agree with that. But this really would be a long shot and given the circumstances I'd go with whatever gets the job done, idealism be damned.

>>40546422
>>40546444
That is true, and that is why we should try something else. I mean - her mom might have social intelligence of a brick but otherwise seems pretty damn smart, chances are she deduced ho Robin rolls just from watching that one match. She will expect Robin to play with trickery and be prepared fo that. Hence why Robin should try more direct force for once.

>>40546426
That is a valid point. Too many variables there. My idea is more of a hypothetical pitch, I'm not gonna force it.

She said she would train Robin to be Champion if she wins

>“What about them?” She glares daggers at you. “I have to accept any challenges from anyone who beats them, but the championship is still mine to wager if I want to. Anyone that can beat me would be able to beat them.” She turns back to Robin. “If you win, you’re the next champion, just like that. If I win, I promise I’ll spend the next three months training you, teaching you everything I know.”

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You decide to check out the spot Robin’s mom will be waiting at. At the very least, you can see if there’s anything fishy about it.

You take out Meloetta too. She happily floats along. Only after a few blocks does she start to be a bit concerned about your unusual silence.

“I just have a bit on my mind,” you tell her, tapping your head. “Worried.”

She nods, understandingly. You catch a hint of the pity she showed the first time you met and asked if she could fix Robin’s eye.

“Back for a rematch?”

You freeze, turning your head. You see Robin’s mom, standing in the open.

But she’s not alone. There’s a short, balding, pudgy man standing on the opposite side.

“I ain’t here for that. I just came to see see the sights.” His voice is gruff and sarcastic. “Faeden is beautiful this time of year, despite you showing up.”

“Bitterness does not become you,” her regal tone contrasts against his. “Well, no, it does. Your time ended and you never did get over it, did you?”

He grunts. “You seem confident that your time won’t. There’s a lot of strong trainers this year. Maybe they’ll finally knock your ass off that pedestal. Become the new champ”

She laughs. “It’s just a title, old man. I couldn’t care less about it.”

That really seems to big him. He glares at her, then turns away and walks off. As soon as he’s gone, she turns to you. “I know you’re there. I don’t know why.”

>Ignore her. Go talk to that old guy
>Tell her you don’t trust her or whatever she’s planning
>Challenge her yourself.
>Ask about the old man. Try to milk her for useful information
>Tell her to stay away from you and Robin
>Something else

>>40546685
Err. Anon?

> If I win, I promise I’ll spend the next three months training you, teaching you everything I know.”

See, that 'I' is stated by her mother. So if Dearest Mom win - which means, Robin lost - she'll train Robin.

>>40546741
>Ask about the old man. Try to milk her for useful information

>>40546741
>Ask about the old man. Try to milk her for useful information

Previous champ?

>>40546741
>Ask about the old man. Try to milk her for useful information

>>40546741
>Tell her you don’t trust her or whatever she’s planning
>Tell her to stay away from you and Robin
>Go talk to that old guy

>>40546741
>Challenge her yourself.
If we win she fucks off and doesn't show up for the Robin's fight.

>>40546741
>Challenge her yourself.

>>40546799
We would get our shit slapped absurdly hard. Even normally we have barely a chance, and we hardly have our Ace team with us right now.

>>40546741
>Ask about the old man. Try to milk her for useful information

>>40546741
>Tell her you don’t trust her or whatever she’s planning
>Tell her to stay away from you and Robin

>>40546741
>Tell her you don’t trust her or whatever she’s planning
>Ask about the old man. Try to milk her for useful information

>>40546741
>Ask about the old man. Try to milk her for useful information

>>40546741
>>Ask about the old man. Try to milk her for useful information
>>Something else
"You don't know why? Simple enough, checking terrain. I'm worried that whatever you are planing has a catch neither me nor Robin will like."

>>40546741
>Ask about the old man. Try to milk her for useful information

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“Who was he?”

She laughs. “You don’t trust me, do you?”

You step closer, Meloetta follows. You keep a straight face, but Meloetta’s shows your dislike of the woman. “Hard to trust someone that avoids a simple question.”

“Remind you of yourself?” Her eyes suddenly turn sharp. Just as quickly, they turn soft and warm again. “He was the old champion. A relic of the old days, and a hypocrite.”

Your eyes tweak up a bit, but you go back to casually looking around the arena. It seems like a plain dirt area. There’s a small elevated area off to the side that would be ideal for the camera crew. You can’t find anything else overly suspicious or out of place.

“Questions?” She takes a hold of your arm, squishing against it just like Robin did before. It feels extremely wrong. She backs away after seeing the look on your face. “I’ll answer anything you want, if you do just one thing for me.”

Your struggle to keep your eyes from narrowing. “What is it?”

She smiles deviously. “Lend me a Pokemon. Your Gyarados, Houndoom, or Alakazam. Don’t worry, I won’t hurt them, steal them, or anything else. I just need a few minutes of their time.”

Meloetta moves herself between you and the champion.

She laughs again. “Oh please. Do you really think you could stop me if I wanted to take them all?”

Devon isn’t with you. She holds out a hand, waiting for a Pokeball.

>Leviathan (Gyarados)
>Raistlin (Alakazam)
>Not. Happening.
>Something else

>>40547153
>Not. Happening.

>Not. Happening.

Not dealing with her shit.

>>40547153
>Not. Happening.

>>40547153
>Not. Happening.

>>40547153
>Not. Happening.

>>40547153
>Not. Happening.

>>40547153
>Not. Happening.

>>40547153
>>Something else

You want to see if I can Mega Evolve them?

>>40547153
The specific selection makes it pretty obvious what she is up to, not dealing with that.
We might as well tell her how transparent it is.

>>40547153
>Not. Happening.
Calling her bluff so hard.
And DEFINITELY don't want Robin fighting her tomorrow after this.

>>40547153
>Not. Happening.

>>40547210
>You want to see if I can Mega Evolve them?
No, she wants to show us that she can mega evolve them.

>>40547213
agreed.
>>40547221
double agreed, robin's good but if this bitch can mega-evolve there's no way she can win.

>>40547153
>Raistlin (Alakazam)

She is a jerk, anon, but she is also a champion. Let's pick her brain, kay?

>>40547153
>Not. Happening.

>>40547153
>Not. Happening.
If you want to show your "strength" do it with your own pokemon.

>>40547153
"So you can Mega Evolve Pokemon that don't even belong to you? I never implied you're a horrible trainer, just a horrible person."

>>40547353
all of my this

>>40547353
This

>>40547353
>>40547153

Agreed.

>>40547353
>>40547380
>>40547436
>>40547460
yeyeyeye

>>40547353
>>40547380
>>40547436
>>40547508

If that isn't what she was gonna do we are just going to look stupid though.

>>40547533
I mean, it probably has SOMETHING to do with Mega Evolution, unless she's just playing mind-games with us.

>>40547533
Even the original write-in was already outside the voting time, so if Gobble uses it, then probably only if its spot on.

Still not giving her one of them.

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“Not. Happening.” You don’t bother keeping the disdain from your voice this time. "So you can Mega Evolve Pokemon that don't even belong to you? I never implied you're a horrible trainer, just a horrible person."

“No fun.” She gives a fake, pouty frown. “It would have been so much more dramatic my way.” She reaches into her pocket and throws out a Pokeball. A beedrill appears.

You and Meloetta take a defensive stance reflexively.

“This Pokemon attacked me on my way here. I’ve interacted with it for a total of oh... five minutes.” She walks around it, eying it up and down carefully. “I don’t begrudge it. It’s territorial. It’s in it’s nature.” She turns to face you. “People have a nature too. We’re manipulators. We find out how Pokemon or other people think, and manipulate them into doing what we want.”

You say nothing, watching her. She’s moving differently now. More erratically.

“All people are horrible, Kat. Some are just better at it our role than others.” He arms go back and her head goes up. “Hnnnnnn!”

You back away a little. The Beedrill begins to glow and transform. Robin’s mom’s mouth opens wide and she breathes heavily. The Beedrill’s transformation completes. She recovers, looking disgustingly satisfied. A small drop of sweat flows down her forehead. “It’s easier the longer you know them, but I supposed you know that.”

She looks a little better than you after you transform Devon.

(continued)

>>40547621
>She looks a little better than you after you transform Devon.

Looks like we need to step it up.

>>40547621
>“Hnnnnnn!”
Oh thank god I thought she was going super saiyan

>>40547639
Gotta go find that old man to teach us

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>>40547621

“Manipulation is our curse and our gift. Sometimes, we have to manipulate someone for their own good. To bring out the best of them.” She drops the empty Pokeball and crushes it under her heel, then dismisses the Mega-Beedrill with a flick of her wrist. It flies off into the night. “He’ll return to his own, more confident and stronger than ever.”

She sighs, watching it fly away. "Of course, if we weren't around, there wouldn't be a need for any of that. They wouldn't need to push themselves to be stronger. But we are, and they do."

>You don’t believe her about the 5 minutes. She’s bluffing
>You don’t manipulate your Pokemon. She’s just a sociopath
>Whatever. Go somewhere else and jam with Meloetta
>Go after the old man, there’s still time if you run
>Something else

>>40547661
>You don’t manipulate your Pokemon. She’s just a sociopath
>Go after the old man, there’s still time if you run

>>40547655
Damn, good idea. Maybe a bit cliched but it gets used so much for a reason.

>>40547661
>>You don’t manipulate your Pokemon. She’s just a sociopath

>>40547661
>You don’t manipulate your Pokemon. She’s just a sociopath
>Go after the old man, there’s still time if you run

>>40547661
>You don’t manipulate your Pokemon. She’s just a sociopath
"Try mega-evolving by empathizing instead of mimicking. The pokemon might actually make you a better person that way."

>>40547661
Stuck between a pokemon apologist champion and a human supremacist scientist. Sad thing is I can't say witch is worse.

>You don’t manipulate your Pokemon. She’s just a sociopath
>Whatever. Go somewhere else and jam with Meloetta

>>40547661
>"Is that all you intend for Robin, 'Manipulating her for her own good'? Why do you have to phrase teaching someone as 'manipulating' as if it were a bad thing? Are you that afraid of weakness?"

>>40547661
>Go after the old man, there’s still time if you run

>>40547661
>Go after the old man, there’s still time if you run
Maybe it's Mister Miyagi

>>40547661
>Mega evolution is suppposed to be the result of the trust between a trainer and their pokemon, the bond, pokemon aren't just tools to be used and thrown away, they're our partners, we help them rise to their best, and they do the same thing for us. Mega-evolution isn't supposed to be some twisted mime's game.
>>40547712
If mine fails, backing this.

>>40547661
>>40547712
>>40547725
Backing those, I get the feeling she is more scared of Robin being 'weak' than that she is actually a horrible person.

>>40547661
>You don’t manipulate your Pokemon. She’s just a sociopath
>Go after the old man, there’s still time if you run
This.
Also,
>Of course, if we weren't around, there wouldn't be a need for any of that. They wouldn't need to push themselves to be stronger. But we are, and they do
My BBEG radar is going off like crazy.

>>40547790
same

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>>40547764

>>40547712
I think she's just so cynical about the human condition that she thinks people can't 'teach' someone for the other's benefit, only indebt them to their teacher. 'Manipulation' fits better at that point.

>>40547830
The thing is, she doesn't sound like she is a fucked up psycho or anything like that.
She sounds more cynical and desillusioned with the world that she just lost touch with everything else.
I'd rather try to understand where she's coming from than just go "fuck you bitch".
Its not like she's completly 'wrong' per se, humans do treat pokemon pretty shitty very often. We've seen that ourselves, and she has just seen a lot more of it than we did in the higher tournament level.

>>40547661
>Something else
We should ask her why she doesn't try to let pokemon change her when she mega-evolves them, instead of changing herself.
Is she afraid she'll actually get better and have to face responsibility for all the horrible things she's done under the justification of 'humans are shit, why bother trying to improve'?

>Anyone who's battled with a pokemon should know better than that, they WANT to grow, they help us become better people and we help them at the same time. I have a friend, with a sneasel, little guy, used to steal everything he could get his hands on, we've been traveling for a while now, and he doesnt do that anymore, he smiles, he helps the other pokemon. If your so jaded that you can't stop to see all the good we can do, along with the bad, then your blind. we can never stop fighting, if we do, we're giving up on the greatest thing that's ever happened to us.

>>40547869
>>40547725
backing

>>40547866
I'm partly with you on that. I think she's fucked up, but I also think she honestly believes what she's saying.

Talking her out of it would be a monumental task, but maybe we can put enough chinks in her armor to have some effect later...

Though I realize this is partly proving her point about people manipulating each other for benefit. We mean well, honest!

Let's challenge her for the championship right here.

>>40547912
>Though I realize this is partly proving her point about people manipulating each other for benefit.
Its not like that point is wrong, people do that, usually its considered a good thing.
The issue is that somehow she thinks people having positive influence on eachother is a bad thing.
Thats what we need to get rid off.

So what's the plan for when she tries to kidnap Robin?

I recommend having Raistlin Tele in, grab her, and tele out. Then just booking it the fuck outta there.

>>40547944
I kinda want to do this.

>>40547971
yeah. If nothing else, we should grab devon and trunks before the fight.
Trunks and Raistlin have the most "get the fuck outta dodge" potential,
and devon is our main "fuck you I'm tired of this shit"

>>40547987
You want to get humiliatingly beaten by her?

>>40548001
Throw that in with nibbles and levi's "motherfucker Ima level this whole city" and dan's "That tickles you bitch" and we should be good.

>>40547971

Have we actually managed to get Raistlin to teleport with someone? I thought he could only teleport himself...

>>40547951
Proving it to her would be difficult, since we're human and she can discredit what we say based on her logic by that alone.

I think playing the mega-evolve angle of 'merging thought processes' is the way we want to go for that. She thinks pokemon are better than humans, so why not let them teach her how to think?

She might try to fight it on the grounds that humans are better at deceiving/manipulating pokemon and can't truly learn from it, but it's a weaker argument when mind melding is literally a thing in this universe.

If she admits to the potential to be better, in any way, we can get her to accept some responsibility for fucking up Robin and her dad. Maybe see some resolution there. I'm not optimistic, and Robin'll be pissed for a good while longer, but having one less enemy to worry about would be nice.

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“I don’t manipulate my Pokemon.”

She laughs, letting out one of those cute snorts that Robin usually gives. “And yet you have one of them mega-evolving.”

“Mega evolution is supposed to be the result of the trust between a trainer and their Pokemon, the bond, Pokemon aren't just tools to be used and thrown away, they're our partners, we help them rise to their best, and they do the same thing for us. Mega-evolution isn't supposed to be some twisted mime's game. Try mega-evolving by empathizing instead of mimicking. The Pokemon might actually make you a better person that way."

“Oh? I supposed you’re the expert now?” She looks nonplused. “Not satisfied with destroying my daughters drive, but now you’re lying to my face? You are good, aren't you?”

“What are you talking about?”

She glares, making your skin crawl. “Don’t play dumb. Robin is a threat, but you can wrap her around your finger. She finally flew free of her father, but you distract her away from taking the championship away from me.” She grabs your collar and pulls you close. “For the first time in her life she has drive, and you’re sapping it from her because you’re afraid of it.”

You push her away. “You’re crazy!”

“You’re just like me, Kat!” She yells. “I know you just told Meloetta whatever she wanted to hear so she’d follow you. You’ve done the same for all of your Pokemon to some degree!”

"Is that all you intend for Robin, 'Manipulating her for her own good'? Why do you have to phrase teaching someone as 'manipulating' as if it were a bad thing? Are you that afraid of weakness?"

(continued)

>>40548087
He retrieved another poke for us before, back when he was still an abra.

>>40548112
Holy shit this bitch is crazy

>>40548112
Alright, she's beyond saving. Kill her.

>>40548112
>but you distract her away from taking the championship away from me
...What?
Did she not see that live television interview where we directly said we are going to compete over the Champion title with Robin?

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>>40548112
“Semantics!” She yells. “You even phrase things just the right way to manipulate yourself.” She laughs again, except this time it’s a harsh, mocking laugh. “You can lie to me, to your Pokemon, but not yourself! Embrace it, and you’ll be so much stronger!”

You keep backing away until you’re in a run. She’s insane!

Meloetta follows closely, but you can see she’s processing the exchange. You don’t like the look on her face as she eyes you up.

You turn the corner and almost run into the old man. He’s way closer than you thought!

He leans both hands on his cane. “Hello.”

>”Um, hello.”
>”Wait, were you listening to that whole thing?”
>Screw it. Ask him to train you.
>Ask if he wants to grab some coffee and talk.
>Something else

>>40548150
>”Um, hello.”
>”Wait, were you listening to that whole thing?”

>>40548150
>”Um, hello.”
pls be my iroh

>>40548150
>Ask if he wants to grab some coffee and talk.
We're all sick of Mom-in-law's bullshit.

>>40548150
>”Um, hello.”
>”Wait, were you listening to that whole thing?”
>Ask if he wants to grab some coffee and talk.

>>40548150
>Ask if he wants to grab some coffee and talk.

>>40548150
>>Ask if he wants to grab some coffee and talk.
>After listening to her insanity it'll be good to have somebody stable to talk to

>>40548150
>>”Um, hello.”
>>”Wait, were you listening to that whole thing?”
>>Ask if he wants to grab some coffee and talk.

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>>40548112
>“I know you just told Meloetta whatever she wanted to hear so she’d follow you. You’ve done the same for all of your Pokemon to some degree!”

>>40548150
>”Um, hello.”
>”Did you hear that whole thing?”
>Ask if he wants to grab some coffee and talk.

>>40548150
>>”Um, hello.”
>”Wait, were you listening to that whole thing?”
>Ask if he wants to grab some coffee and talk.
>Meloetta do you want to show of for him?

>>40548150
>”Um, hello.”
"Did I make sense back there? I could use a pick-me-up right now."

>>40548150
>”Um, hello.”

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>>40548112
Ragyou? Is that you?

>>40548199
Difference is we actually MEANT the shit we said, and have been following through

>>40548199
She isn't talking to Kat, she's calling the anons out.
SHE KNOWS!

>>40548219
That doesn't sound anything like Ragyo, at all.
Not even remotly.
Thats pretty much as far away from Ragyo as you can get as crazy mom.
Ragyo wanted the exact opposite, she wanted her daughter to surrender herself and be a good pliant little girl.
While Robins mom wants Robin to be ambitious and usurp her.

>>40548270

Clearly she had some kind of epiphany or accident while she was training which allowed her to perceive the 4th wall and what lay beyond it. As such, it has shattered her mind after she realised that life is nothing but a game to beings from a higher plane.
It's the Sims, playing the Sims, playing the Sims...

>>40548328
OR she's crazy

I suppose next time when she tries to say we're lying to ourselves because we don't like the truth, we can point out she has plenty of reason to lie to herself as well.

As long as she assumes humans are irredeemable trash, she can justify her actions as inevitable and right, freeing her from recrimination and self doubt.

She keeps talking about how much power she's gained from thinking that way, after all. Wouldn't she lie to herself if it meant holding on to that power?

Isn't she just a terrified girl who's too afraid to accept what she's really done all these years?

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>>40548199
>>40548270

Glad I wasn't the only one who was thinking this.

>>40548414
agreed, if there's one thing we know, it's self-delusion and hatred. I think we'd be familiar enough to diagnose it. hell we did it for clair.

>>40548199
Wait, to some degree? Does that mean she admits we also did it because we like them?

>>40548497
She isn't saying anywhere people are incapable of being nice to pokemon, just that they manipulate them for their own gain.
That doesn't mean they do it all the time.

>>40548523
With the way she couches the terms, she makes it sound like it's the only reason people interact at all.
A
fter all, if we could interact in ways that didn't involve manipulation, wouldn't that mean that *gasp* we could exercise choice and make a moral stand for interacting in all those other ways and discipline ourselves so we could potentially not be shits?

If we have the ability to choose to *not* be solely manipulative, then we can acknowledge anyone who glorifies such behavior like Robin's mom to have failed people, pokemon, and society in general. Which means we aren't like her, she just wants us to be for her own benefit, ie. not needing to make amends for her issues.

Hey yo for real this bitch is next level toxic as hell and the less time anyone spends around her the better. Let's just fuckin take errybody and skip town tomorrow morning and go somewhere she isn't.

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“Umm, hello.”

You both stare at each other for a seconds.
“So-”

“I-”

“No no, you go first.”

“Oh, go ahead.”

Oh screw it. “Were you listening to that whole thing?”

“I couldn’t really help it.” He lifts a hand off of his cane and coughs into it. He offers you his other hand. “I’m Vernon.”

“Kat,” you shake it. “Do you want to grab a coffee or something?”

“I haven’t had a pretty young girl ask me out for a long, long time.” He smiles, but looks unsure. “You’re paying, right?”

Is he joking?

You’re still trying to get a handle on him. He’s a bit pudgy, old, unkempt, but making an effort to be polite. His pretty young girl joke didn’t really land, but it’s because he didn’t seem to have a lot of confidence behind it. “After listening to her insanity it'll be good to have somebody stable to talk to.” Is he really the old champion? You only see a single Pokeball at his belt.

The three of you slip into a small franchise coffee house, open 24 hours a day.

There’s another uncomfortable silence as you look at the menu.

>Offer to pay for his order
>Crack a joke (write-in encouraged)
>Ask how he lost his championship. Might as well get that out in the open
>Ask him the real reason why came here
>Ask where his other Pokemon are
>Assure him that you or Robin will beat Robin's mom
>Something else

>>40548716
>Ask him the real reason why came here

I really want a Kat-Robin's Mom hatefucking pastebin

>>40548716
>Ask where his other Pokemon are
>Ask him the real reason why came here

>>40548716
>Offer to pay for his order
>Ask him the real reason why came here

>>40548716
>Ask how he lost his championship. Might as well get that out in the open
>Ask where his other Pokemon are

>>40548716
>Offer to pay for his order

Just hang out and talk about the weather and the town and what the fuck ever that isn't all this heavy shit for a little

>>40548716
>Ask him the real reason why came here

>>40548716

"She seems rather... obsessed... Was she always like that?"

>>40548736
I'd be fine with some non-canon AU
>Offer to pay for his order
>Ask him if she was that crazy when he met her
>Ask him the real reason why came here

>>40548716
>Ask him the real reason why came here

>>40548716
>Something else
"You think being a Pokemon Champion means more than just being able to beat others, huh? That's why you got upset when she called it just a title, even more one she didn't care about."

>>40548736
I want a smutbin of Kat helping Robin dominate her mom in bed.

>>40548793
backing

>>40548793
Yeah that.

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>>40548150
Robin's family is pretty fucked.

>>40548974
Yeah. No surprise she was twisting herself in knots about us somehow leaving her when her mom showed up.

>>40548974
looking forward to spending the holidays with them

>>40549029
"Man, you get all the cool stuff out of this relationship, Robin. My rockin' bod, being on TV, not having to deal with shitty in-laws..."

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He asks the clerk for hot water and fumbles with a pouch of tea from his pocket.

“I’ll, umm, pay for your order. It’s on me.” You put a hand on his shoulder, a little embarrassed.

He immediately changes his disposition. He orders a large coffee and a half dozen muffins. He slips the muffins into his bag as soon as he gets them. You ignore it and get your own coffee, and a juice for Meloetta.

The three of you take a seat in a back booth.

"She seems rather... obsessed... Was she always like that?"

He pours a packet of sugar into his coffee and pockets the rest, but not before offering you a chance to take some first. “Truth be told, I don’t know her that well. I’ve tried to know her, but I haven’t gotten any farther in understanding her than you, probably. I battled her, once.” He sighs. “I watched the recording of it so many times I’ve lost count.”

“So why did you come here, anyway?” You help Meloetta figure out the juice straw.

He looks at you for a second, but gets embarrassed and looks away. “Dumb reasons, I suppose.”

You arch an eyebrow.

“I...I wanted to see the new generation of trainers,” he admits. “I heard this year had a lot of good ones showing up.”

You can’t help but feel a little flattered. You shake it off though. "You think being a Pokemon Champion means more than just being able to beat others, huh? That's why you got upset when she called it just a title, even more one she didn't care about."

He grunts. “Complete disrespect. For herself, her Pokemon that battled for her, and for everyone she battled against.” His shyness is going away. “It was my -life.- She acts like it’s just another tool for her sick mind games.”

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>>40549129
You gesture to his belt, even if though you can’t see it through the table. “And what about your Pokemon? I only saw one ball.”

He looks away again “I released them. After I lost.”

>How could he do that! That’s awful
>He must have his reasons, ask about the one he still has
>Ask why he’s so cheap
>Ask if he wants to help you take the champ down
>Get his thoughts on other promising trainers
>Can he mega-evolve?
>Something else

>>40549149
>He must have his reasons, ask about the one he still has
>Can he mega-evolve?

>>40549149
Ask him why

>>40549149
>Ask why he released them, did they want it?
>Get his thoughts on other promising trainers

>>40549149
>He must have his reasons, ask about the one he still has

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>>40549129
>You help Meloetta figure out the juice straw.

>>40549149
>>He must have his reasons, ask about the one he still has
>Get his thoughts on other promising trainers
>Can he mega-evolve?

>>40549149
>>40549172
Seconding

>>40549149
>Ask why he released them. Be prepared to get mad at him for it.
It is a pretty shitty thing to do unless he had a very good reason.

>>40549149
>Can he mega-evolve?
The only one he didn't release was his only Mega. He tried to release his pokemon and chase them away after feeling like such a failure but it always came back. No matter how much he tried to get away from it.

>>40549149
>How could he do that! That’s awful

>>40549149
"I know this is personal stuff, but before we talk more, I'd like to know why. Was it more of an impulse thing, like she got into your head with the whole 'trainers are only manipulating or using their pokemon' thing, was she able to get into their heads instead, or did you feel like you were no longer able to take care of them?"

>>40549149
>He must have his reasons, ask about the one he still has
Can someone tell me why releasing pokemon is bad? I can't access bulbapedia to try and find out myself

>>40549149
>“I released them. After I lost.”
Well this is disappointing. This guy's a bitch.

>>40549275
if you release them, THEY ARE GONE 5EVER!

>>40549275
Like abandoning your dog in the wild.

>>40549275
Because he abandoned his friends? How could that need explanation for why its bad?
He left them to fend for themselves instead of taking care if them as he should.

>>40549311
well as a Champion team i'm sure they were more than strong enough to fend for themselves

>>40549149
>How could he do that! That’s awful
>Ask why he’s so cheap

>>40549328
Thats completly besides the point.

>>40549288
>>40549298
>>40549311
Alright, so I wasn't wrong in my thinking. I thought there might be something special, like released pokemon often had trouble reintegrating into the wild and often died. Couldn't be sure.

>>40549368
>like released pokemon often had trouble reintegrating into the wild and often died
Its not like the games thematize that sort of thing.
I doubt they have a problem, unless they were bred in captivity, which they very well might have been, but we don't know.

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Released them? You try not to be too judgmental, but you’re not sure exactly how to probe the subject.

Meloetta sips her juice contently until it runs out. She turns to you, upset. You quickly buy her another and she goes back to being absolutely thrilled with life.

"I know this is personal stuff, but before we talk more, I'd like to know why. Was it more of an impulse thing, like she got into your head with the whole 'trainers are only manipulating or using their Pokemon' thing, was she able to get into their heads instead, or did you feel like you were no longer able to take care of them?"

“It is personal,” he tells you. “But, you did buy me a coffee.” He tries to keep his tone lighter. “I guess it was the latter. I...didn’t take my loss well. I drank. A lot. I drank my money and friends away. Not my Pokemon though. They stood by me.” He stares off. “Even when they shouldn’t have. I trained hard. Collected eight badges. Trained harder. Then harder still.” He sips his coffee. “Too hard. I was as obsessed as she was. I...I wasn’t well, and my Pokemon suffered for it.”

“It sounds like you regret it.”

He doesn’t look you in the eyes. “One day, it just went too far. I realized what I was doing. I saw how they feared and resented me, even if they always obeyed and performed well. I released them. I told them that if they wanted me to, I’d catch them again.” He pours more sugar into his coffee. “Poli stayed. The others...”

You both sit in silence for a while. Meloetta even stops enjoying her juice.

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>>40549629
You try to think of something else to say. “Were you ever able to mega-evolve?”

He shakes his head. “No. It was never my style anyway. I’m more like your friend, Robin.”

“Are you saying she can’t mega-evolve?”

He grunts. “I’m saying she won’t. Not unless she changes her style.”

You again decide to change the subject. “Can you tell me about the other promising trainers?”

He laughs. “Spoiled brats, mostly. A few veterans are looking good from previous years, but they won’t make it all the way. I did see two others that I think could give you a run for your money, if that’s what you’re worried about. I don’t like ‘em though. No dedication.”

>What’s wrong with mega-evolving?
>A run for your money? You have a legendary!
>He’s just a sad old man. Excuse yourself and leave
>Ask if he can help you get better
>Suggest he train Robin
>Maybe he’d like to battle?
>Something else

>>40549629
That image is pretty funny.
Meloetta stop being cute

>>40549368
Mechanically there's no problem with releasing pokemon. As such, the land of Kalos is now overrun with Cottonees that nobody encounters in my Pokemon X file.

>>40549675
>Maybe he’d like to battle?

>>40549675
>Ask if he can help you get better
>Maybe he’d like to battle?

>>40549675
>What’s wrong with mega-evolving?

>>40549675
>>Suggest he train Robin
YES! FUCK YES! SCREW THAT TWISTED BITCH!
Seriously though, from what we've heard this guy is way more robin's style

>>40549675
>What’s wrong with mega-evolving?
I've never liked it either. There's something about repeatedly forcing a bunch of mutation onto a pokemon that doesn't sit well with me.

>>40549702
>Seriously though, from what we've heard this guy is way more robin's style
He himself admitted he is a shit trainer and completly lost it.
Beyond is self-realisation there is nothing indicating he got any better.

>>40549675

>What’s wrong with mega-evolving?
>Suggest he train Robin

>>40549675
>What’s wrong with mega-evolving?
>Maybe he’d like to battle?

>>40549721
>>40549702
Yeah, lets let her be trained by the guy we know for a fact is worse than her mother as a trainer. Thats a success strategy.

>>40549675
>Ask if we can help him in any way.

>>40549675
>What’s wrong with mega-evolving?
> Why does he think Robin won't use mega-evolution?

>>40549675
>Maybe he’d like to battle?

>>40549675
>What’s wrong with mega-evolving?

>>40549702
>from what we've heard this guy is way more robin's style
We have heard absolutely nothing about his style sofar. Except that it didn't work.

>>40549675
Really not sure what to take away from this guy, aside from not to let defeat crush us, and more info on Robin's Mom.

>>40549712
>>40549737
>>40549793
You gotta remember guys, he was the pokemon champ. As in, the greastest trainer ever for a bit. He's washed up now, but do we have any better teachers?

Although if you want results, Robin's mom did offer to train her...

>>40549829
>You gotta remember guys, he was the pokemon champ. As in, the greastest trainer ever for a bit.
Yeah, until he wasn't anymore. He lost. His time is over.
I rather rely on our own training than on his.

you know, since Robin's mom claims to not care about the title, that means the wager's entirely win-win. Robin should probably offer to fight her in a normal battle instead

>>40549829
>Although if you want results, Robin's mom did offer to train her...
And I still think thats a good idea, as long as Kat is around.
I'm sure her mother has a lot to teach, and considering her disposition we can at least be sure she isn't abusive to them or anything.

>>40549861
But the whole point is Robin's mom doesn't think Kat should be around Robin because Kat is holding Robin back

>>40549861
Thing is, if Robin's mother train her, she'll either a) Take her away from us, or b) Join our group, and do you really want her to join us?

>>40549861
I dunno, she seems fairly cruel.
but yeah, she'd be a fine teacher as long as she isn't alone with Robin for it. because Robin will wind up physically or mentally broken

>>40549861
No, she's just abusive to people. Like her daughter.

I don't think Robin beating her mom by training with her is worth the trauma. We won't be good enough to help her get over years of abuse if her abuser sticks around, especially when she starts to think we're forcing her onto her mom because she's not good enough for us yet.

>>40549879
>But the whole point is Robin's mom doesn't think Kat should be around
She didn't make Kat not being around condition of the training. She isn't against Kat being around, she thinks Kat holds Robin back.
If she gets to train her, she can make sure(and see for herself) that Kat doesn't.
Probably take some cinvincing, but I'm fairly confident she would rather train Robin with Kat around, than not train Robin at all.

>>40549884
>she'll either a) Take her away from us, or b) Join our group, and do you really want her to join us?
a). Not necessarily, even if she would prefer it
b). I would have no issue with that.

>>40549904
>We won't be good enough to help her get over years of abuse if her abuser sticks around
I think you have some pretty strange misconceptions about what Robins mom did. She didn't "abuse her for years" at all.
She left, thats it. Which fucked up Robins dad, but her Mom didn't abuse Robin at all.
And I'm pretty confident Kat can help Robin get through whatever mind games her mother has planned.

>>40549675
>Suggest he train Robin

ey girl forget your mom, I found this fuckin hobo to fix your shit

>>40549904
>We won't be good enough to help her get over years of abuse
....That never happened.
Like, alright, she is a cunt about it right now. But before this reunion literally the entire issue Robin had with her was abandoning her family.
Which was mostly really bad because of how her father reacted to it.

>>40549926
>>40549945
True, I was mis-remembering things. I was thinking about her little meltdown before the date and crossed a few wires. I'm still not confident about letting Robin's mom anywhere near her because of that incident, though.

>>40549945
Protip: It is vanishingly rare that when the parent that abandoned you as a small child comes back into your life down the road and has any kind of positive effect. Deadbeats go and stay go.

>>40549978
>I'm still not confident about letting Robin's mom anywhere near her because of that incident, though.
Running away from your issues doesn't help anyone, she has to face her mother to get over them anyway. The question is just under what conditions.
And I consider it better she does it during this training, than that she falls apart when she has to face her in the league.

>Everyone is concerned about Robin's training if she looses
>No one has any confidence she can win

Believe in the waifu

>>40550008
The problem is that Robin might be insecure enough to start listening to her mother which is bad, because her mother is insane.

>>40549675
Fuck it, let's just tell this guy about the way Robin's mom challenged her daughter in a public place and the terms if Robin loses, and see what his impression is.

>>40550029
Dude, she'd mop the floor with us, and she already knows that Robin is going to attempt being clever.

Why the fuck are people actually considering letting Robin stay anywhere near her mother?

>>40550033
>The problem is that Robin might be insecure enough to start listening to her mother
Not over listening to Kat. Simply not gonna happen.
She HATES her mother. Hard. She blames her for wrecking their family. She wanted to beat the league because she wanted to show her mother how worthless her title is.
Her mother isn't gonna get into her head with Kat aroun.d If they were alone for three month I might give it a chance, but no way otherwise.

>>40550029
I have faith in Robin, but I am also worried because she has to beat not only her mother, but the expected narrative and Gobble's incredible ability to inflict suffering

>>40550008
Only if she won't fall apart now because she isn't ready.

I don't think Robin's really considered what it would mean to meet her mom until now. If we throw her in early and she breaks, she won't make it through the league to confront her mom in the first place.

I'd rather deal with hobo guy, and trust Robin to figure out a way to improve his stuff from there. The guy spent forever obsessing about how to beat Robin's mom, and only gave up after seeing the abuse he put on his pokemon. Guy's probably got some good info.

>>40550052
Why not? There isn't really a big risk to Robin over it, and there is at least the tiny chance that spending some time with her daughter might go some way to fix her fucked upness.
Which I consider it worth it, largely because I don't want Robins family to stay a wreck, if we can fix their shit we should try.

>>40550086
>Why not?
SHE'S FUCKING INSANE

>>40550029
against anyone else, I'd have absolute confidence. but remember our fight with an elite four member? when it took 3 of our pokemon to beat one of hers?
this is someone head and shoulders stronger than her, so even though we've gotten a lot stronger since then if Robin doesn't get at least a two or three pokemon handicap, it won't even be worth calling it a fight

>>40550069
>I'd rather deal with hobo guy
There is absolutely no worth to the hobo guy at all. If we don't let her mother train her, thats cool too, but then we train with her, and don't let some failure like that guy interfere with it.

>>40550098
Not really. She it bitter and cynical. Not really that insane. Nothing she says is really that outlandish.
Did you forget how a huge part of the professional pokemon trainer scene rlies on the fucked up breeding experiments of team imperium?
And you're telling me then that its insane to think trainers are assholes to pokemon?
She is going WAY over the line, but she is hardly insane.

>>40550086
>Robin has mommy issues
>Robins mommy has (very serious) issues
>Robins mommys issues center around Robin
>Robin does not yet know the extent of her mommys issues
Now what part of that makes you want to put them together.

>>40550120
>when it took 3 of our pokemon to beat one of hers?

Wasn't that fight 1 on 1?

>>40550128
>Now what part of that makes you want to put them together.
The part where they are literally the only people capable of fixing the other ones issues?

>>40550122
>Not really.
please read

“Oh? I supposed you’re the expert now?” She looks nonplused. “Not satisfied with destroying my daughters drive, but now you’re lying to my face? You are good, aren't you?”

“What are you talking about?”

She glares, making your skin crawl. “Don’t play dumb. Robin is a threat, but you can wrap her around your finger. She finally flew free of her father, but you distract her away from taking the championship away from me.” She grabs your collar and pulls you close. “For the first time in her life she has drive, and you’re sapping it from her because you’re afraid of it.”

You push her away. “You’re crazy!”

“You’re just like me, Kat!” She yells. “I know you just told Meloetta whatever she wanted to hear so she’d follow you. You’ve done the same for all of your Pokemon to some degree!”

“Semantics!” She yells. “You even phrase things just the right way to manipulate yourself.” She laughs again, except this time it’s a harsh, mocking laugh. “You can lie to me, to your Pokemon, but not yourself! Embrace it, and you’ll be so much stronger!”

You keep backing away until you’re in a run. She’s insane!

Real talk homies: It is not worth fucking your life up to try to unfuck the lives of your fucked up family members. You will only succeed in making yourself miserable.

>>40550143
This is some for real early 90s ABC Family bullshit. Do not do this.

>>40550152
Its a story, not real life.

>>40550143
dude, no. just, no

>>40550143
Are you a psychologist? No. and neither is Kat.

Putting those two next to eachother for any period of time longer than it takes to "fight me" is more likely to fuck Robin up even more, AND make her mother even more obsessive than to "fix" anything.

>>40550122
You make it sound like hobo guy never did anything worthwhile in his life. Like be a champ.

At the absolute least, we could learn how he cocked up his fight. At best, he can highlight any bad habits Robin has, and we can work with her to fix them.

The dude's here. May as well try and use him.

>>40550150
...Kat calling her crazy somehow proves legitimate insanity? Its a turn of phrase you realise?

She is afraid we are taking advantage of Robin. And, you know, that was true for a while.

>>40550195
DID YOU READ THE FUCKING POST?

That woman is insane. If you cannot see that by what she herself said, then you shouldn't be allowed on a computer without guardian supervision.

>>40550181
>Putting those two next to eachother for any period of time longer than it takes to "fight me" is more likely to fuck Robin up even more, AND make her mother even more obsessive than to "fix" anything.
Of course you are the psychologist so you can make that claim.
Don't emberass yourself.

You don't want to deal with her because you aren't interested in that story, thats fine. But don't pretend its the only way to do it.

>>40550195
She isn't in a position where her opinion about what is best for Robin counts for anything. She relinquished her parental rights and responsibilities a long time ago.

>>40550195
well, that and the legitimately insane rant about how everyone manipulates everyone else and to just embrace that

and she doesn't care if we take advantage of Robin. she wants us to 1. be honest about it, and 2. not 'hold her back' by caring too much

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“What’s wrong with mega-evolving?”

He shrugs. “That’s not a dig at your Houndoom. I just don’t think you should depend on it. I’ve seen some stuff in my day that would surprise you.” He takes a small, dark hair from your shirt and inspects it. “He needs more calcium though.”

You make a mental note of that. “What kind of stuff?”

“One of the toughest trainers I’ve ever seen used a Magikarp. Way faster than you’d expect, stronger too.” He leans in, “Pokemon aren’t like people. She was right about that. Their abilities are more..abstract. It’s not about size, or how much they’ve evolved.” He leans back in his chair. “There was this one kid with this Pikachu. Damndest thing I ever saw.” He regales you with stories of unevolved or under-evolved Pokemon that manage to be powerful opponents.

“But wouldn’t they be stronger if they were evolved?”

He shakes his head. “You’re not getting it. It doesn’t matter if they’re evolved or not. What matters is that individual Pokemon, and what works best for it. Instead of forcing a Pokemon into a preconceived mold, you’ve got to help them become who they are, deep inside.”

You think back on that time Clair asked how you’d react to having a Pokemon that wouldn’t evolve. You said you’d find a way to make it work. You think about your talk with Destiny and Raistlin, and how they evolved shortly after. Did you manipulate them into it without consciously meaning to?

“I know what you’re probably thinking,” he pokes you. “If this old man’s philosophy is right, how come he’s not the champ any more?”

(continued)

>>40550225
>She isn't in a position where her opinion about what is best for Robin counts for anything.
Actually, she is. She is her legal guardian.
As far as we know they never got divorced, and after Robins fathers rant at us, she is actually the only one with legal authority over Robin.

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>>40550247

>>40550229
>well, that and the legitimately insane rant about how everyone manipulates everyone else and to just embrace that
Considering that "manipulating" is just her word for "ahve influence on" thats not insane a tall, its literally true.
The point where she goes over the line is where she considers that a bad thing.

There is nothing insane about that, just incredibly cynical.

>>40550253
pretty sure at this point Robin's an emancipated minor

>>40550253
Pretty sure other anon is speaking from a moral perspective, not a legal one.

>>40550253
>the law is always right and moral, particularly in matters of custody and guardianship

come the fuck on man

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>>40550247
You remain nonchalant. “I didn’t say that.”

“You didn’t have to. I’ll tell you why. I got complacent as the champion, and then I blew my shot at a rematch by pushing my Pokemon away.” He sighs. “Before I took things too far, we were a well oiled machine. I know I could have gotten the title back again. That isn’t regret or bitterness talking, I know my chance is over. I’m at peace with that.”

There’s something in his voice that sounds honest. He believes what he’s saying, at the very least.

You have to know if he’s just blowing smoke. “Think you can take me?”

He smirks. “I know I can.”

You smirk back, playfully. “So let’s battle then, old man.”

He stops you. “Wait just a second. Plenty of people get eight badges and think they’re hotshots. I’m the former champ. I held the title for half a long time. Why should I waste precious minutes of what’s left of my life mopping the floor with you in particular?” He’s giving you a harsh tone, but there’s something about his voice that isn’t very commanding. You think he’s playing some sort of game. “I’m a lonely old man.” He downs the last of his coffee. “Show me your panties, and I’ll give you your match.”

>Sure. Whatever. Flash the old perv
>No way, but goad him into a match by saying he’s just scared.
>Slap him and walk out
>Something else

>>40550247
>“I know what you’re probably thinking,” he pokes you. “If this old man’s philosophy is right, how come he’s not the champ any more?”
Not really, I feel like somehow Robin's mother has become strong beyond reason, almost like a legendary.

>>40550271
At this point you've got to be a troll. There's no way a rational human being can read what she said and not come to the conclusion that she is insane and should have no part in anyone elses life, let alone an emotionally unstable child whose problems stem from her.

>>40550294
Oh, it's Master Roshi.

>>40550283
I never said that. Read more carefully. If you start talking about parentla rights, you talk legal issues.
She DOES have those, if we like it or not.

>>40550294
>No way, but goad him into a match by saying he’s just scared.

>>40550294
>Something else
"Tell you what. You win, and you can keep a pair."

>>40550294
>No way, but goad him into a match by saying he’s just scared.

>>40550330
This

>>40550313
>At this point you've got to be a troll.
Ah of course, the "you are troll because I can't make actual arguments" school of discussion. Fantastic.

>>40550294
Make a bet.

If we win he trains Robin. If we lose we flash him,

>>40550294
>Sure. Whatever. Flash the old perv
Oddly enough, that just lends credence to the idea that the old man has something worth saying.

>>40550294
>Slap him and walk out

>>40550330

I support this

>>40550338
>>40550330
>>40550294
This

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What is it about Pokemon and autism anyway

>>40550294
>No way, but goad him into a match by saying he’s just scared.

>>40550294
>No way, but goad him into a match by saying he’s just scared.

>>40550294
>What panties?

Autosage, BTW.

>>40550338
This

>>40550330
I'll vote this

>>40550294
"Well see now you've gotten into my head about it. If I do show you my panties, I'd almost want you to be able to beat me, because otherwise I just wasted my time and flashed myself for no reason, which would also suck since I think there might be something to what you're saying."

>>40550294
>>No way, but goad him into a match by saying he’s just scared.

>>40550380
Always the correct answer. No matter the question.

>>40550294
>Slap him and walk out

>>40550380
We should open with this before my suggestion.

>>40550380
Yeah maybe this, but seriously I guess either >>40550330 or >>40550338. Like don't goad this dude, because he very clearly is not scared of us and we know it.

>>40550330
>>40550338
These